From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:06:52 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14313
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:06:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23784
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:10:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E36077@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:18:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12404106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:24:03 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SGO0l06681 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:24:00 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15976 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:24:00 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 28 Jun 02
          12:24:00 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 28 Jun 02 12:23:51 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <20020628160917.E8A498039@yellow.rahul.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D1C5553.31401.BDCB7C@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:23:47 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Wonderful!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020628092501.00abcc50@uclink.berkeley.edu>

One of my favorite Oregon Coast spots is Hug Point. Any of you
ever been there?

BrP




> At 09:09 AM 6/28/2002 -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> >Betty said:
> > > Going up the Oregon coast was beautiful and we'll do it again. We came home
> > > the inland route and stopped in Ashland.  I thought about Shoshana when we
> > > drove through Beaverton on one of our side trips.  Is she still alive?
> >
> >I don't know. Did you see Karsten?
>
> No, but I did remember him, too.
>
> Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:06:55 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14316
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:06:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23725
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:07:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3601D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:16:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12403947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:21:43 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SGLhl06314 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:21:43 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SGLdim002384;
          Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:21:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020628071508.00a97e00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020628092501.00abcc50@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:25:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Wonderful!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628160917.E8A498039@yellow.rahul.net>

At 09:09 AM 6/28/2002 -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
>Betty said:
> > Going up the Oregon coast was beautiful and we'll do it again. We came home
> > the inland route and stopped in Ashland.  I thought about Shoshana when we
> > drove through Beaverton on one of our side trips.  Is she still alive?
>
>I don't know. Did you see Karsten?

No, but I did remember him, too.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:06:57 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14319
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:06:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23664
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:04:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BDBE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:18:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12403763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:18:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SGIGl05671 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:18:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BF5F280AC; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 09:18:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628161815.BF5F280AC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:18:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1C7FEA.352FB700@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jun 28,
              2002 11:25:30 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Janet Hardy wrote:
> > found that the movie was an irresponsible and bowdlerized
> > tissue of lies, and got seriously pissed off.
>
> I have known this for some time, and refuse to see the movie.

It's still a good movie.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:06:59 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14324
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:06:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23640
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:03:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BDBD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:17:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12403719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:17:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SGHEl05547 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:17:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 150437F88; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 09:17:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628161714.150437F88@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:17:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020628111437.00a03920@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jun 28, 2002 11:15: 7 am"

bonniev said:
> >Why not just invest in a couple of Blue Ice packs?
> >Janet
>
> Because they don't mold and bend like frozen corn or peas.  Or do they?

Better--they usually come with a covering so you don't have to use a towel.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:07:01 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14328
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:07:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23591
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:58:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E35ED4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:07:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12403434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:12:33 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SGCWl04501 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:12:32 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.21]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYFBN501.FF2 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:11:29 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEEGFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1C8AED.55428A8B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:12:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> --Adam
> whose milestones are McDonalds' change of packaging and the center
> high-mount tail light (not really but fun to say)

    Libby lights.

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:07:02 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14331
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:07:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23576
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:57:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E35EB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:06:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12403375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:11:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SGBal04250 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:11:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D07F28092; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 09:11:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628161135.D07F28092@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:11:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a0501041bb94224518585@[192.168.1.100]> from Janet Hardy at "Jun
              28, 2002  7:36:25 am"

Janet Hardy said:
> >In a message dated 06/27/2002 7:42:35 PM Central Daylight Time,
> >karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:
> >
> ><<
> >I finally saw 'A Beautiful Mind' today, and I swear there is
> >anachronistic tupperware in there.
> >
> >
> >>>
> >
> >So what did you think of the movie?
>
> I know you didn't ask me. I liked it when I first saw it, but had a
> hunch I wasn't getting the whole story. So then I went and read the

Yes. I got that feeling, too.

> book, and found that the movie was an irresponsible and bowdlerized
> tissue of lies, and got seriously pissed off.

Can you talk more about this? What were the lies?

I mostly felt sorry for him and for his wife. There was *nothing*
about the kid--I'm sure he must have lots of things to say.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:07:04 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14334
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:07:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23522
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:55:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E35E64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:04:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12403216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:09:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SG9Il03827 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:09:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E8A498039; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 09:09:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628160917.E8A498039@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:09:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Wonderful!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020628071508.00a97e00@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jun 28, 2002  7:19:54 am"

Betty said:
> Going up the Oregon coast was beautiful and we'll do it again. We came home
> the inland route and stopped in Ashland.  I thought about Shoshana when we
> drove through Beaverton on one of our side trips.  Is she still alive?

I don't know. Did you see Karsten?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:07:05 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14337
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:07:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23468
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:52:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E35DE0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:00:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12402916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:06:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SG64l03025 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:06:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D22CD7F88; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 09:06:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628160603.D22CD7F88@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:06:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1C46A5.30379EE5@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jun 28,
              2002  6:21: 9 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > If you had any experience with refrigerators made in the past ten
> > years, you wouldn't think this is fancy.
>
> So they no longer sell ordinary, simple refrigerators?  I know it's hard
> to find them that aren't self-defrosting, but I had assumed that all
> that ice-making etc stuff was still optional.

It's optional, but the floor models often have them. I'm surprised
that you haven't been to people's houses that have them. The people
who came to my house for dinner the other day didn't have to be told
how to work it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:14:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14429
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:14:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BDD24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:34:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12405007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:34:14 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SGYEl08974 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:34:14 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SGYCim009008 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:34:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020628092501.00abcc50@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020628160917.E8A498039@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020628093706.00abbac0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:38:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Wonderful!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1C5553.31401.BDCB7C@localhost>

At 12:23 PM 6/28/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>One of my favorite Oregon Coast spots is Hug Point. Any of you
>ever been there?
>
>BrP

We were five miles from there.  We'll stop next time. It wasn't mentioned
in the book I was reading and I just did a google search.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:20:23 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14517
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:20:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22901
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:22:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BD7DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:35:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12400492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 11:35:53 -0400
Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.12]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5SFZrl28697 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002
          11:35:53 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17Nxmq-0002X9-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri,
          28 Jun 2002 08:35:52 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <3D1C7929.9AB0C59B@pop.mindspring.com>
            <4.2.2.20020627181844.00a28580@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020627194709.00a9acb0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D1C7929.9AB0C59B@pop.mindspring.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020628111437.00a03920@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010420b94231e1b532@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:31:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020628111437.00a03920@pop3.norton.antivirus>

>>Why not just invest in a couple of Blue Ice packs?
>>Janet
>
>Because they don't mold and bend like frozen corn or peas.  Or do they?

Yes, they do. I can easily wrap one all the way around my wrist.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:20:24 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14523
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:20:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22763
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:16:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E35846@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:25:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12399955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 11:30:48 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SFUml27163 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:30:48 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SFUhim002710 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:30:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020627181844.00a28580@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020627194709.00a9acb0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020628083413.00aa5810@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:34:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1C7929.9AB0C59B@pop.mindspring.com>

At 09:56 AM 6/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > And then did you do a google on knee bursitis and treat yourself?
>
>I did.  Thanks for the tip.  I don't have bursitis... I have a Baker's
>Cyst and arthritis in my right knee and patella instability in my left
>knee  (the doctor told me so)  and the information I found was
>reassuring... so thanks Nurse Bad Betty.

Are you home for the summer, Sly?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:20:31 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14526
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:20:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22770
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:17:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E35849@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:25:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12399976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 11:30:56 -0400
Received: from fido.kiva.net (fido.kiva.net [216.9.137.65]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g5SFUul27204 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:30:56 -0400
Received: (qmail 626 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2002 15:30:56 -0000
Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by fido.kiva.net with SMTP; 28
          Jun 2002 15:30:56 -0000
Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id 3487834F11; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 10:30:56 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix)
          with ESMTP id 33C422D643 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun
          2002 10:30:56 -0500 (EST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206281027540.19875-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:30:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tom Lee <flint@KIVA.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F1711uAPe9L4eFQ1FgP00000636@hotmail.com>

        I've been so busy that I don't know what I'm doing on the 4th.
The weekend of the 6th I'm going to be playing my recorder as a guest
artist in a musical group at a science fiction convention.  How's that for
a string of prepositional phrases?  The group is the convention's musical
guest of honor, I sometimes play with them, and this will be one of those
times.

--
Take care,
Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
I'm excited

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Anne Toal wrote:

> Since wordslers typically get together on the 4th of July, what is everyone
> doing this year? Graham and I will be at a party celebrating the end of the
> reorg that my department just went through.
>
> -aht
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:21:16 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14530
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:21:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22609
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:13:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BD713@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:27:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12399575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 11:27:31 -0400
Received: from fido.kiva.net (fido.kiva.net [216.9.137.65]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g5SFRVl26250 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:27:31 -0400
Received: (qmail 31805 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2002 15:27:30 -0000
Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by fido.kiva.net with SMTP; 28
          Jun 2002 15:27:30 -0000
Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id D7A9A34F11; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 10:27:30 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix)
          with ESMTP id CD3542D643 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun
          2002 10:27:30 -0500 (EST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206281025440.19875-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:27:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tom Lee <flint@KIVA.NET>
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1C785D.7C3EBB92@valstar.net>

        Nope.  Unix is an operating system; so are Mac OS and Windows.  My
information probably wasn't very useful to you.

--
Take care,
Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
Hoped it would help somebody out there though

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

> Thanks. And to Janet. I guess that Netscape is not a variety of Unix? I
> don't know what Unix is. Janet, Earthlink has no local connection here.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:21:17 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14533
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:21:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22836
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:19:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E358D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:28:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12400322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 11:33:34 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SFXXl28163 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:33:33 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SFXWim013221 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:33:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020628071508.00a97e00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <OE41Ye4nhrKtzcbLDiK00002477@hotmail.com>
            <3D0B333A.9B31FDF9@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020628083519.00ab0500@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:37:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Wonderful!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020628110554.00b50b88@mail.panax.com>

At 11:07 AM 6/28/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>At 07:19 AM 6/28/2002 -0700, betty wrote:
>
>>Going up the Oregon coast was beautiful ...
>
>
>Indeed.  I really enjoy all of the small state parks along the coast.

And we were shocked that they had full hook ups!  All were gorgeous.  We
sipped wine while making grilled salmon, rice pilaf, and salad.  Really
roughing it.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:26:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14537
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:26:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E363AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:40:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12405719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:46:01 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SGk0l10891 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:46:00 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23596 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:45:53 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 28 Jun 02
          12:45:54 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 28 Jun 02 12:45:51 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D1C5553.31401.BDCB7C@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D1C5A7A.3452.D1EE88@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:45:47 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Wonderful!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020628093706.00abbac0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

Cannon Beach?




>
> We were five miles from there.  We'll stop next time. It wasn't mentioned
> in the book I was reading and I just did a google search.
>
> Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:27:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14545
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:27:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E363DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:42:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12405833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:47:21 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SGlLl11262 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:47:21 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust155.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.157]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004864208@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:47:13 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020628161135.D07F28092@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1C936F.264CA6FF@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:48:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> Can you talk more about this? What were the lies?
>
Google: beautiful mind falsehoods

Many links.

alyce


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:30:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14562
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:30:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3643F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:45:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12405986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:50:25 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SGoMl11674 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:50:22 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SGoIim004526 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:50:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020628093706.00abbac0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D1C5553.31401.BDCB7C@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020628095333.00aa3100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:54:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Wonderful!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1C5A7A.3452.D1EE88@localhost>

Yes.

Betty

At 12:45 PM 6/28/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Cannon Beach?
> > We were five miles from there.  We'll stop next time. It wasn't mentioned
> > in the book I was reading and I just did a google search.
> >
> > Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:34:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14570
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:34:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E364D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:49:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12406286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:54:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SGsOl12563 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:54:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 275927F9F; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 09:54:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628165423.275927F9F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:54:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1C936F.264CA6FF@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jun 28,
              2002 12:48:47 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Can you talk more about this? What were the lies?
> >
> Google: beautiful mind falsehoods
>
> Many links.

They are movie reviews, which I don't find all that convincing.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:35:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14580
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:35:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E36519@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:50:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12406419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:55:58 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SGtvl12841 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:55:57 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust155.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.157]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004864367@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:55:57 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1C957A.3FDB5C29@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:57:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      loosestrife
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Hudsonia, which is a part of Bard College that studies the Hudson's
estuaries and life therein, has found that loosestrife may not be all
bad. They got a grant and did a study. Found that it may be bad for
certain rare species of other plants, but on the good side--white-tailed
deer graze the tops of the flowers, it provide nectar for many kinds of
butterflies, and the plants provide suppport for woody and herbaceous
vines. So now you know. This does not mean that it is good to plant more
of it, however.

alyce
--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:37:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14584
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:37:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BDEC9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:57:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12405797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:57:10 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SGlAl11189 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:47:10 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SGl9OI025549 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:47:09 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206281246490.6707-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:47:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Wonderful!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628162723.A19234@yoccoz.multinix.com>

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, steph wrote:

>Alec is going to work at the sports shop so he can get lots of
>free baseball caps.

Which way will be wear them?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:38:07 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14588
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:38:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA17116
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 23 May 1958 01:55:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E349FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 9:09:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12388273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 09:14:20 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SDEJl32440 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:14:19 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g5SDHFP19116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:17:15
          +0200
References: <3D1BCF3A.E0CA8BFA@valstar.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020628080330.00b442f0@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020628151715.A19113@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:17:15 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020628080330.00b442f0@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 08:05:55AM -0400


From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:44:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14610
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:44:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3667E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:59:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12407053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:04:53 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SH4rl14520 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:04:53 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust155.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.157]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003557290@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:04:49 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020628165423.275927F9F@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1C978E.1734726@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:06:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> They are movie reviews, which I don't find all that convincing.

Try this:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2002/4/prweb36758.php

Here is a (serious) review of the book (not the movie).

http://www.ams.org/notices/199810/milnor.pdf

But believe whatever you wish.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:47:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14625
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:47:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E366ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:02:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12407314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:07:36 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SH7al15133 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:07:36 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g5SH7a7Y414228 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002
          13:07:36 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000401c21ec6$4d167330$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:07:35 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Wonderful!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206281246490.6707-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bethany K. Dumas
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 12:47 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Wonderful!
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, steph wrote:
>
> >Alec is going to work at the sports shop so he can get lots of
> >free baseball caps.
>
> Which way will be wear them?
>
> Bethany
>

I'll be wearing them properly.

Alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:51:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14645
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:51:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3676A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:05:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12407527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:11:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SHB2l15716 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:11:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 52B6F80A7; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 10:11:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628171101.52B6F80A7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:11:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1C978E.1734726@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jun 28,
              2002  1: 6:22 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > They are movie reviews, which I don't find all that convincing.
>
> Try this:
> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2002/4/prweb36758.php
>
> Here is a (serious) review of the book (not the movie).
>
> http://www.ams.org/notices/199810/milnor.pdf

Thanks, I'll look later; I have to GSD now.

> But believe whatever you wish.

I'm not sure what I meant by 'convincing'. I mean, I know they lied,
I could tell when the movie was going on. And it's clear that the
movie doesn't bear much resemblance to Nash's life.

I guess what I meant is that it's not clear to me that the fact they
made a Hollywood version of Nash's life is reason not to see an
excellent movie.

And I don't care whether it never happened or not, I thought the bar
scene where he comes up with his Equilibrium was brilliant.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:58:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14664
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 06:58:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E36878@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:12:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12407960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:18:12 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SHICl16958 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:18:12 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust155.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.157]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003557585@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:17:38 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020628171101.52B6F80A7@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1C9A8E.ADCCACA6@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:19:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

 And it's clear that the
> movie doesn't bear much resemblance to Nash's life.

Then they just should have made a good movie and not said that it was a
biography of a real person. If I'd written the book, I'd be ticked.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:05:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14689
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:05:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3693B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:19:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12408319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:25:06 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SHP6l17966 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:25:06 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6F0527E36; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 10:25:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628172505.6F0527E36@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:25:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1C9A8E.ADCCACA6@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jun 28,
              2002  1:19:10 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Then they just should have made a good movie and not said that it was a
> biography of a real person.

Movies are ever thus.

> If I'd written the book, I'd be ticked.

All the way to the bank...

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:07:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14698
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:07:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E36962@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:22:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12408458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:27:17 -0400
Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SHRHl18425 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:27:17 -0400
Received: from dorism212@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.40.1fe0aad7 (16637) for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun
          2002 13:27:08 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512
Message-ID:  <40.1fe0aad7.2a4df66c@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:27:08 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: dorism212@AOL.COM
Subject:      What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I will be spending the day closing down the Honolulu
place, with its beautiful new floors, packing my muumuus
and swim suits, fighting the traffic to the airport . . .
and spending the night over the ocean, in and out of
L. A. and Denver, and then Omaha.  Sad to say.

                 - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:14:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14723
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:14:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E36A26@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:29:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12409059 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:34:43 -0400
Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SHYhl19961 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:34:43 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.1] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYF007ZZFHTSI@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:34:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
References: <20020628161135.D07F28092@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <a04310101b9424ca17f43@[192.168.1.1]>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:36:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628161135.D07F28092@yellow.rahul.net>

>Janet Hardy said:
>  > book, and found that the movie was an irresponsible and bowdlerized
>>  tissue of lies, and got seriously pissed off.
>
>Can you talk more about this? What were the lies?

Sure. They conveniently left out:
- his bisexuality
- his divorce (!) from his wife (although I'm told they remarried recently)
- his out-of-wedlock child with a mistress he had before (and while)
he was married
- the nature of his delusions, which was much more chaotic and less
narrative than shown in the movie -- the usual "Emperor of
Antarctica" kind of thing
- the fact that he *did* use antipsychotic drugs to help recover from
his illness, although the intellectual exercise portrayed in the
movie did help. This was the part that angered me the most, since I
felt it had the potential to encourage schizophrenics to go off their
meds

>I mostly felt sorry for him and for his wife. There was *nothing*
>about the kid--I'm sure he must have lots of things to say.

Both sons are interviewed in the book. The out-of-wedlock one sounds
a bit troubled, the one from the marriage sounds like he has his act
together pretty well; he's a mathematician himself, I believe, and is
also troubled by schizophrenia.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:15:45 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14738
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:15:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BE1D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:35:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12409113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:35:42 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SHZgl20113 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:35:42 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust155.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.157]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004865185@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:35:41 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <40.1fe0aad7.2a4df66c@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1C9EC9.830972B2@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:37:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

dorism212@AOL.COM wrote:
>  Sad to say.

A sorry tale, indeed. I shall be here, at the computer alone, while
everyone is out doing something else.

Meanwhile, we now have nine squirrels (grey) and two (red) eating from
the hanging finch feeder where they are not meant to go. I am not of the
keep-squirrels-away-from-feeders school, though. THey are such fun to
watch. The holes in the feeder are designed so that the finches' little
heads and beaks can get it. Way to small for squirrel heads, so they
reach in with their little hands and pull out bunches. A lot falls rom
their greedy fingers onto the porch floor, where an accomplice usually
waits.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:16:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14746
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:16:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E36A4D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:31:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12409177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:36:41 -0400
Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SHafl20248 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:36:41 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.1] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYF007INFL3S8@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:36:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
References: <20020628171101.52B6F80A7@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <a04310102b9424f572243@[192.168.1.1]>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:38:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628171101.52B6F80A7@yellow.rahul.net>

>I guess what I meant is that it's not clear to me that the fact they
>made a Hollywood version of Nash's life is reason not to see an
>excellent movie.

I thought Russell Crowe's performance was superb, but that the
movie's attitude toward mental illness was cavalier to the point of
irresponsibility.

>And I don't care whether it never happened or not, I thought the bar
>scene where he comes up with his Equilibrium was brilliant.

Didn't happen, but you're right, it was a nice scene.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:19:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14751
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:19:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E36A9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:34:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12409455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:39:32 -0400
Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SHdWl20909 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:39:32 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.161] ([208.138.31.74]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with
          ESMTP id <20020628163802.VJZQ1946.mail@[208.138.31.74]> for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:38:02 -0400
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B9420980.D03A%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:39:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1C9A8E.ADCCACA6@valstar.net>

On 28/6/2002 12:19 PM, alyce cresap wrote:

> And it's clear that the
>> movie doesn't bear much resemblance to Nash's life.
>
> Then they just should have made a good movie and not said that it was a
> biography of a real person. If I'd written the book, I'd be ticked.

The studios pay good money for the right to edit and alter the story. The
author would in my view have no basis for being ticked. Nash himself seems
quite happy with the movie. It's quite possible for facts to have been
omitted or changed and still end up with a movie that conveys a sense of his
life.

There were similar attacks (though not on the same scale) about Ron Howard's
Apollo 13 movie.

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:28:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14794
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:28:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E36B9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:43:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12409374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:48:50 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SHcol20662 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:38:50 -0400
Received: from menudo.vt.com (root@menudo.vt.com [204.117.188.234]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SHcnw27784 for
          <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:38:49 -0400
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230]) by
          menudo.vt.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15014 for
          <steph@words-l.org>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:24:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from USA.com (proxy@[203.194.144.52]) by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5)
          with SMTP id MAA24986 for <steph@words-l.org>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002
          12:24:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mx.loxsystems.net ([141.89.23.113]) by mta21.bigpong.com with
          SMTP; 28 Jun 0102 11:39:08 -0500
Received: from unknown (HELO smtp013.mail.yahou.com) (133.17.7.227) by
          rly-yk04.aolmd.com with SMTP; Fri, 28 Jun 0102 06:31:57 +0800
Received: from [138.140.181.158] by q4.quickslow.com with esmtp; Fri, 28 Jun
          0102 14:24:46 -0300
Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-server.tampabayr.com) (40.165.41.109) by
          da001d2020.loxi.pianstvu.net with esmtp; 28 Jun 0102 11:17:35 +0600
MiME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <011a66d48d5b$2226c8e4$1db37ab3@dbpaot>
Date:         Wed, 28 Jun 0102 13:14:25 +0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: FinancialNews3135o54@USA.COM
Subject:      Guaranteed Excellent Credit in 15 Days ... 5493cQjs8-596bAPK-16
Comments: To: All.Employees@taco.vt.com
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

<html>

<head><script LANGUAGE="JavaScript1.1">
<!-- Begin
function right(e) {
if (navigator.appName == 'Netscape' &&
(e.which == 3 || e.which == 2))
return false;
else if (navigator.appName == 'Microsoft Internet Explorer' &&
(event.button == 2 || event.button == 3)) {
alert("Please Print and Return This Form Via Fax.");
return false;
}
return true;
}

document.onmousedown=right;
document.onmouseup=right;
if (document.layers) window.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEDOWN);
if (document.layers) window.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEUP);
window.onmousedown=right;
window.onmouseup=right;
//  End -->
</script>

<title>GUARANTEED TO QUICKLY HAVE EXCELLENT CREDIT IN 15 DAYS </title>
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 3.0">
</head>

<body text="#000068" bgcolor="#000080">
<div align="left">

<table border="1" cellspacing="0" width="80%" bgcolor="#005AB5" bordercolor="#C0C0C0"
bordercolorlight="#C0C0C0" bordercolordark="#C0C0C0" align="left">
  <tr>
    <td width="65%" bgcolor="#000080" height="45"><font FACE="Arial"><p align="center"></font><font
    face="Arial Narrow" color="#D9D900"><big><strong>YOU ARE <blink>GUARANTEED</blink> TO HAVE
    EXCELLENT CREDIT IN 15 DAYS !!</strong></big></font></td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td width="65%" bgcolor="#FFFFB5"><font color="#000080" face="Arial"><big><br>
    </big>Give yourself the ADVANTAGE of enjoying life MORE with EXCELLENT CREDIT!! </font><p><font
    color="#000080" face="Arial">Over the past 12 years we have perfected our Proven System.
    It's a guaranteed way of legally getting an excellent credit rating almost instantly. </font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial"><strong>Here's how</strong>:</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">If you have bad credit you will simply go through
    our easy 5 step program to quickly get a new, legal, unblemished credit file and establish
    Excellent Credit. If you don't have bad credit, but want to make your existing credit
    EXCELLENT, we will go straight to Step 5.</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial"><strong>Step 1:</strong> </font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">Because no two people in the United States have the
    same Social Security Number, Banks and Creditors access your credit file almost entirely
    by your SS#. You will not want to change your Social Security Number because it is
    extremely difficult to do so and you need it for your Employment, Taxes and Social
    Security Benefits. The FEDERAL PRIVACY ACT OF 1974 clearly states that only the Government
    and your employer can force you to use your SS#. Because of this law you are allowed to
    legally use another 9 digit number to use in place of your Social Security # on credit
    applications. </font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">The first day you become our client, you will
    receive your own number through the Employer Identification Number Program. </font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">Because the Federal Laws do not require you to give
    your SS# to anyone besides your Employer and the Government, you can now legally use this
    number in place of your SS# on credit applications. </font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">Remember, your new number will only be used for new
    credit. </font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial"><strong>Step 2:</strong> </font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">No two people with the same name have the same
    mailing address, so you will need to obtain a new mailing address for use on your new
    credit file. A friend, relative or mailbox address in your area will be perfect.</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial"><strong>Step 3:</strong></font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">No two people with the same name have the same
    telephone numbers, so you will also need a new telephone number for use on your new credit
    file. A friend, relative, voice mail or pager will again work perfectly.</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial"><strong>Step 4:</strong></font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">With your new Tax Identification Number, new address
    and new telephone number your new credit file will be opened. It will now be totally
    impossible for any creditor to know anything about your past credit history.</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial"><strong>Step 5:</strong></font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">To guarantee that you will quickly have EXCELLENT
    CREDIT, we will assist you in instantly adding UNLIMITED positive information to your
    credit file. This is an unknown way of adding real accounts to your new credit file to
    give you an Excellent Credit Rating in less than 15 days. As you know, the more positive
    information on your credit file, the more money banks will lend you. Countless people have
    credit lines over $100,000 because of this Proven Technique!</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">When finished, you will receive a copy of your
    credit file proving that you now have excellent credit! This will take less than 15 days.
    You will now be able to easily qualify for ANY credit you apply for! </font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial"><strong>To be on the road to EXCELLENT CREDIT</strong>
    <br>
    simply send us your name, complete mailing address including&nbsp; zip code, telephone
    number (optional), and email address along with a check, money order or credit card
    payable to:</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial"><strong>COI for $39.95</strong> </font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">All necessary paperwork will be priority mailed to
    you within 24 hours!</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">Details about How To <strong>Become a Reseller</strong>
    of this Proven Program are also included in your package.</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial"><strong>$$$$ RISK FREE DOUBLE YOUR MONEY BACK
    GUARANTEE!! $$$$</strong></font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">Our Proven Program unconditionally guarantees you
    will qualify for personal loans, business loans, credit cards, auto loans, home loans and
    any other credit you apply for!</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial"><strong>If you are not able to qualify for credit
    after using our program, simply return your Proven Program along with your denial letter
    and your $39.95 investment will be refunded DOUBLE! </strong></font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial"><strong>That's a $79.90 refund if this doesn't work
    like we said!</strong></font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">We make this guarantee to you because this Proven
    Program has already helped thousands of people just like you.</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">We KNOW it works - all you need to do is sign up
    TODAY! We truly look forward to making you another SATISFIED CLIENT!!</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">------------------Print &amp; Cut Order
    Form---------------------</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial"><strong>Yes!</strong> I deserve excellent credit.
    Please enroll me in this Proven Program.</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">The following information is for our records only
    and is kept Confidential.</font></p>
    <p>&nbsp;</p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">*** Please Print Carefully ***</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">NOTE: Orders cannot be processed without complete
    information.</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">NAME:____________________________________________________</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">COMPANY
    NAME:___________________________________________</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">CURRENT
    ADDRESS:________________________________________</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">CITY, STATE,
    ZIP:____________________________________________</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">PHONE
    NUMBER:___________________________________________</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">EMAIL
    ADDRESS:___________________________________________</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">TYPE OF PAYMENT:</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">_____CHECK&nbsp; _____MONEY ORDER </font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">(Payable to COI)</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">Credit Card orders please complete the following:</font></p>
    <p>&nbsp;</p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">_____VISA&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; _____MASTERCARD &nbsp;
    _____AMEX&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; _____DISCOVER</font></p>
    <p>&nbsp;</p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">CREDIT CARD#
    :___________________________________________</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">EXPIRATION
    DATE:_________________________________________</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">NAME ON
    CARD:___________________________________________</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">TOTAL AMOUNT <strong>$39.95</strong></font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">DATE:__________________</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">SIGNATURE(Required):x_________________________________</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">___ Please e-mail me your PROVEN PROGRAM-sscv to the
    above e-mail address.</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">___ Please send me your PROVEN PROGRAM via U.S.
    Priority Mail.</font></p>
    <p><font color="#000080" face="Arial">___ Please include details on How To <strong>Become
    a Reseller</strong> of this Proven Program.</font></p>
    <p align="center"><font face="Arial" color="#000000"><strong>PLEASE RETURN THIS FORM VIA
    FAX TO 1-877-769-4990<br>
    FAX COPY OF SIGNED CHECK IF PAYING BY CHECK.</strong></font></p>
    <p align="center"><font color="#000080" face="Arial"><strong>Fax to: 1-877-769-4990</strong></font></p>
    <p align="center"><font color="#000080" face="Arial">If paying by Check please FAX a Copy
    of the Check with this Order Form</font></p>
    <p align="center"><font color="#000080" face="Arial"><strong>Fax to: 1-877-769-4990</strong></font></p>
    <p align="center"><font color="#000080" face="Arial">Or mail Money Order to:</font></p>
    <p align="center"><font color="#000080" face="Arial">COI<br>
    1765 Garnet Avenue<br>
    Suite #137<br>
    San Diego, CA 92109<big><br>
    </big>1.877.769.4990 - Fax</font></p>
    <p align="center"><font color="#000080" face="Arial">Details about How To <strong>Become a
    Reseller</strong> <br>
    of this Proven Program are also included in your package.<big><br>
    </big></font></td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td width="65%" bgcolor="#FFFFB5"><font color="#000080" face="Arial"><small><small>If you
    no longer wish to receive further Newsletters from us, DO NOT reply to this email simply
    click here &quot;<a href="http://i.mb00.net/remove">unsubscribe</a>&quot;.</small></small></font></td>
  </tr>
</table>
</div>
</body>
</html>

5515hoSe8-037FqIP082l19

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:30:17 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14811
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:30:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA16261
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 23 May 1958 01:12:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E345E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 8:27:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12385385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 08:32:20 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SCWKl26001 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:32:20 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-51.panax.com
          [65.114.190.51]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5SCWKj15071 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002
          08:32:20 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020628083116.009f69b0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:32:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net>


From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:31:19 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14819
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:31:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA15780
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 23 May 1958 00:45:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E344C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 8:00:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12384618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 08:06:00 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SC60l23228 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:06:00 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-155.panax.com
          [63.163.41.155]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5SC60j09700 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002
          08:06:00 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020628080330.00b442f0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:05:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BCF3A.E0CA8BFA@valstar.net>

At 10:51 PM 6/27/2002 -0400, alyce wrote:
>Is there a program (maybe free?) that sends an automated message when
>e-mail is received and you're not there to answer it?

Eudora has this option and some other e-mail programs do as well.  On your
e-mail system, going to Help (or a tutorial, if it has one) ought to show
how to do it, if it is available.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:32:37 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14829
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:32:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA15256
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 23 May 1958 00:19:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BC53C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 7:39:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12383539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 07:39:39 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SBTdl20272 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:29:39 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SBTcOI009490 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:29:38 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206280720120.2571-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:29:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU


From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:33:16 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14833
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:33:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA15002
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 23 May 1958 00:08:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E342CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 7:23:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12383505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 07:28:19 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SBSJl20204 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:28:19 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws58-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.58]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5SBSHQ24108
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 06:28:17 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206280022230.7140-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1C484E.2190E075@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 06:28:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tom Lee wrote:
>
>         If you are using some variety of Unix, try typing "vacation" -- if

I started to suggest this also, though it would require turning it off
and on regularly since presumably you wouldn't want it sent out in
response to every bit of mail that came in.  Hmm.  There's a setting for
telling it to send to the same person just once, isn't there?  (I
haven't used it in several years at least.)  So keeping it turned on all
the time might not be so bad.  It would go out to new inquiries/orders
only.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:33:17 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14836
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:33:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA15148
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 23 May 1958 00:15:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E34323@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 7:30:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12383751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 07:35:27 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SBZRl20745 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:35:27 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws58-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.58]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5SBZOQ25081
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 06:35:24 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020627172608.A16587@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020627152558.E6A657E79@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020627173829.E16587@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D1BAEEA.2C25EC9A@maynor.net>
            <20020628091138.B18408@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1C49F9.C2DFF7BF@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 06:35:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pilates etc.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> = ROFL!  He knows all the <good> lawyers -- those who rake in bundles as
> = lobbyists in Washington, etc.  But why would he tell me who to contact?
>
> If, if, if, if you wanted to pursue this, he would know which
> lawyer was the one to contact.  If you asked him, he would
> certainly tell you.

If I asked him such a question, his response would probably be a
snorting laugh.  He would probably add that no good lawyer would stoop
to fooling with such mickey-mouse stuff.

> I agree that I know zip.  If you wanted to pursue it though,
> would they discourage you?

Probably.  My RRSIL might need the embezzler for running errands or
something.  It reminds me in a way (though is not parallel with) of my
RRSIL's reaction when I said that I thought one of her employees should
try to go to college -- that she was obviously very smart and
intellectually curious and that I bet she could get scholarships since
there are some scholarships designed for people just like her --
slightly older women who interrupted their education to have babies,
etc. etc.  My RRSIL said, "Don't put any idea like that into her head!
I need her full time."

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:39:40 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14863
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:39:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14878
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 23 May 1958 00:01:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E34299@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 7:16:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12383366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 07:21:15 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SBLFl19633 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:21:15 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws58-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.58]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5SBLCQ22979
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 06:21:13 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020628022721.E83A27E7C@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1C46A5.30379EE5@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 06:21:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> If you had any experience with refrigerators made in the past ten
> years, you wouldn't think this is fancy.

So they no longer sell ordinary, simple refrigerators?  I know it's hard
to find them that aren't self-defrosting, but I had assumed that all
that ice-making etc stuff was still optional.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:40:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14867
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:40:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E36C99@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:54:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12411040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:59:59 -0400
Received: from biff.kiva.net (biff.kiva.net [216.9.137.5]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g5SHxxl27730 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:59:59 -0400
Received: (qmail 14474 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2002 17:59:58 -0000
Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by biff.kiva.net with SMTP; 28
          Jun 2002 17:59:58 -0000
Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id 4807334F11; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 12:59:59 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix)
          with ESMTP id 473A12D643 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun
          2002 12:59:59 -0500 (EST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206281256340.19875-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:59:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tom Lee <flint@KIVA.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <40.1fe0aad7.2a4df66c@aol.com>

        I am at work, poring through code looking for the source of a
particularly mysterious bug in the software, though since I'm 45 minutes
ahead for the week I'm considering taking off for a bit to look at
recorders at one of the local music stores.  After work tonight I'm going
to help a friend celebrate his birthday.  Apparently he's going to a
restaurant called the Schnitzelbank in the town of Jasper, Indiana, where
I've never been, and I'm tagging along.

--
Take care,
Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
Not tape recorders either

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 dorism212@AOL.COM wrote:

> I will be spending the day closing down the Honolulu
> place, with its beautiful new floors, packing my muumuus
> and swim suits, fighting the traffic to the airport . . .
> and spending the night over the ocean, in and out of
> L. A. and Denver, and then Omaha.  Sad to say.
>
>                  - D. M.
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:43:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14899
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:43:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BE452@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:03:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12410440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 14:03:11 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SHrBl26044 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:53:11 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SHr9OI018670 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:53:09 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206281352550.25614-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:53:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Wonderful!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000401c21ec6$4d167330$48305b80@EAGLE72>

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Alec D. Plotkin wrote:

>> >Alec is going to work at the sports shop so he can get lots of
>> >free baseball caps.
>>
>> Which way will be wear them?
>>
>> Bethany
>>
>
>I'll be wearing them properly.

Which is?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:43:53 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14904
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:43:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA14828
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 23:59:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E34289@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 7:13:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12383307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 07:19:10 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SBJAl19150 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:19:10 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws58-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.58]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5SBJ8Q22626
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 06:19:08 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 06:19:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU


From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:46:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14920
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:46:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E36D54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:01:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12411695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 14:06:45 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SI6jl29474 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:06:45 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g5SI6i7Y477791 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002
          14:06:45 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000901c21ece$90685c90$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:06:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1C9EC9.830972B2@valstar.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of alyce cresap
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 1:37 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: What is everybody doing?
>
>
> dorism212@AOL.COM wrote:
> >  Sad to say.
>
> A sorry tale, indeed. I shall be here, at the computer alone, while
> everyone is out doing something else.
>
Stop please. I am crying already. This list has such misery.

Alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:47:40 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14933
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:47:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA14753
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 23:55:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3426B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 7:10:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12383050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 07:15:56 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SB5ul18066 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:05:56 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SB5tOI004249 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:05:55 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206280705080.2571-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:05:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BCF3A.E0CA8BFA@valstar.net>


From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:47:43 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14936
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:47:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA14735
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 23:54:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E34261@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 7:09:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12383035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 07:14:53 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SB4ql17972 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:04:52 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SB4qOI004005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:04:52 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206280703270.2571-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:04:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020627194709.00a9acb0@uclink.berkeley.edu>


From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:56:26 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14978
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:56:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA11437
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 21:00:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E33E70@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 4:15:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12379916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 04:20:19 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S8KJl24906 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 04:20:19 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <MYWW1TSB>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:20:18 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id MYWW1TSA; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:20:12 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <4.2.2.20020627085731.00a35380@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020628101729.021899d8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:20:06 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: BatFest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BB24E.C707544D@maynor.net>

19:48 27.06.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor:
>Betty wrote:
> >
> > So, why aren't we talking about it or responding to questions?  Has it been
> > cancelled or never was to be? I'd be pissed if I were planning on attending
> > which I could have been.
>
>I've yet to hear a date, among other reasons for my silence.  Normally
>the date (as in July 4 itself or a date just before or after) has been
>established many, many months in advance so that people can make travel
>plans.  Nor have I heard anything about the actual events planned or
>about accommodations.  Nor a roster of those planning to attend.  All of
>this led me to believe that it wasn't <real>.  And that makes me sad,
>given our robust fest history.

I prersent a paper in the morning (CET) of July 4 in Graz, Austria, so I
have the rest of the day available for festing after some meetings. I will
drink a viertl or two of local white wine and send my cheers to this
<sevice> around lunch your time (for the continental Americans on the list).

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:57:21 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14998
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:57:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10856
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 20:27:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BBD4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 3:47:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12379444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 03:47:39 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S7lcl22478 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 03:47:38 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <MYWW1TPD>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:47:38 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id MYWW1TPC; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:47:35 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020626092019.0287a9b8@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020624235618.024cb2d0@mail.istori.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020624110307.02a6f330@mail.istori.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206242213300.133-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020624235618.024cb2d0@mail.istori.com>
            <20020625182652.B85568@pobox.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020626092019.0287a9b8@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020628094700.02164e40@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:47:29 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Souls
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020627134022.B12700@pobox.com>

13:40 27.06.2002 -0500 skrev Tushar Samant:

> >                  Since Buddhism at it's earliest (depending on when the
> > Buddha lived) is too late to have been an inspiration for for instance
> > Epicuros, there were later influences on Greek philosophy from Indian
> > philosophy especially after Alexander.
>
>I believe a lot of these influences are still undiscovered, and may
>remain so until the Classics are resolutely polluted, across the board,
>with Arabic, Indian etc studies (likely accompanied by much wailing and
>dumbass petitioning from nerdy U of Chicago alumni).

Here, here!

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:57:24 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15004
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:57:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10825
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 20:26:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E33DF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 3:40:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12379426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 03:46:09 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S7k8l22401 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 03:46:09 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <MYWW1T30>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:46:07 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id MYWW1T39; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:46:04 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <20020627130057.A12700@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020628094425.02189b30@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:45:58 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Souls
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020627181739.D26D17EA5@yellow.rahul.net>

11:17 27.06.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>liquid wets the container walls and convex if it does not. 4. A
>cartilage disk that acts as a cushion between the ends of bones that
>meet in a joint."

If that disk is till there. But it was only the one in the back of the knee
they removed so I still have one in the front. (And my other knee has both
and I hope it will keep them.)

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:57:31 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15012
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:57:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10312
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 19:56:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E33D77@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 3:11:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12378918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 03:16:29 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S7GTl20275 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 03:16:29 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g5S7JNE18457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:19:23
          +0200
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEEGFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <20020628003941.88C447F32@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627174532.01ed2a80@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020628091923.C18408@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:19:23 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020627174532.01ed2a80@mail.istori.com>; from
              kaminski@ISTORI.COM on Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 05:49:58PM -0700

On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 05:49:58PM -0700, Peter Kaminski wrote:
= Karen Kay writes,
=
= >I finally saw 'A Beautiful Mind' today, and I swear there is
= >anachronistic tupperware in there.
=
= BTW, for typeface-in-film anachronism geeks, check out
= <http://ms-studio.com/typecasting.html>
=
= Just the anachronisms from <http://us.imdb.com/Goofs?0268978>:
=
= Anachronisms: In 1951 Nash drinks from a paper cup with the "recycled"
= symbol on it. The symbol didn't come into use until much later.
=

All this reminds me that I watched the new Planet of the Apes the
other night, and the nasty apes opened the spaceman's mouth and
there was a really nice shiny gold crown on one of his molars,
and I wondered why that didn't set them off right away.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:57:33 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15018
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:57:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10221
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 19:48:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E33D5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 3:03:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12378782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 03:08:45 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S78il19659 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 03:08:45 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g5S7Bdn18447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:11:39
          +0200
References: <20020627172608.A16587@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020627152558.E6A657E79@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020627173829.E16587@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D1BAEEA.2C25EC9A@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020628091138.B18408@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:11:38 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates etc.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BAEEA.2C25EC9A@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Thu,
              Jun 27, 2002 at 07:33:46PM -0500

On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 07:33:46PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote:
= steph wrote:
=
= > Do you think he even knows?  But anyway, if Natalie cared to
= > contact a lawyer, and asked her brother, he would certainly know
= > who to contact.  He probably even has a longstanding relationship
= > with one.
=
= ROFL!  He knows all the <good> lawyers -- those who rake in bundles as
= lobbyists in Washington, etc.  But why would he tell me who to contact?
=

If, if, if, if you wanted to pursue this, he would know which
lawyer was the one to contact.  If you asked him, he would
certainly tell you.

= > Actually the general Maynor reaction to all of this seems to be
= > that they are too embarrassed to say that they were just a bit
= > stoopid.
=
= ??  You know zip about my RRB&SIL.  They wouldn't be embarrassed at
= all.  They simply don't care.  They are worth many, many millions of
= dollars and see anything less than a million as chicken feed not to
= notice at all.  They certainly wouldn't give up their time to oversee
= something so trivial.  My RRB would never give up a golf game for
= something like that.  My RRSIL would never give up spa time or
= entertaining Dubya or whatever for something like that.  They see it as
= of no importance whatsoever.

I agree that I know zip.  If you wanted to pursue it though,
would they discourage you?  I certainly never meant to imply that
they would give up their valuable time.  And actually, since I
deleted a whole bunch of mail, I know I missed the latest
installment in the mess.  I just hope you're untangling it, but
that you're not out money because of it.  If the money's so damn
trivial to them, let them pay what needs fixing.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:57:35 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15021
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:57:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA09947
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 19:31:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E33CFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 2:46:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12378423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 02:51:19 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S6pIl18489 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 02:51:18 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g5S6sCm18422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:54:12
          +0200
References: <20020627152538.153527E86@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D1BA629.99C6942A@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020628085412.A18408@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:54:12 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BA629.99C6942A@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Thu,
              Jun 27, 2002 at 06:56:25PM -0500

On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 06:56:25PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote:
= Karen Kay wrote:
=
= > > Towels on towel holders do not get soaked when the counter does.
= >
= > Yes! I remember this.
=
= Why would a counter get soaked?
=

When washing large items in the sink, it is possible to turn them
in such a way while the water is running that significant amounts
of water splash about.  While the towels are far enough away not
to be hit directly by the splashing water, nothing in my house is
level (or for that matter, sloped in the right direction)  and
water will run where it pleases.  I have a wooden paper towel
holder that is just a slightly fancy dowel on a half inch base,
and the wooden base is showing signs of having stood in water
many times.  Also, for a while my faucet was leaking - that got
water all over the counter, only at night (why it only leaked at
night, I really don't know).

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:57:41 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15029
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:57:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA09821
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 19:24:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BBB8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 2:44:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12378270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 02:44:52 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S6iql17871 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 02:44:52 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020628064447.EPQI903.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 06:44:47 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <4.2.2.20020627200807.00a9b5d0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020627234019.025e5930@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:41:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BD37D.966FDA76@valstar.net>

alyce cresap writes,

>I just was thinking of having an alybooks.com address for
>orders from my web page that would reply right away to people.

Your hosting provider for alybooks.com (FranComm, right?) may be able to
configure one for you on the server that receives your mail.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:57:54 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15037
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:57:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08821
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 18:20:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E33978@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 1:35:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12375229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 01:40:41 -0400
Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S5efl11491 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 01:40:41 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.87.1d7fb898 (16339) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun
          2002 01:40:31 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <87.1d7fb898.2a4d50cf@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 01:40:31 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@aol.com>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 06/27/2002 7:42:35 PM Central Daylight Time,
karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:

<<
I finally saw 'A Beautiful Mind' today, and I swear there is
anachronistic tupperware in there.


>>

So what did you think of the movie?

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:57:56 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15038
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:57:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08831
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 18:21:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BB847@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 1:41:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12375255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 01:41:12 -0400
Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S5fCl11571 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 01:41:12 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.119.13a8c306 (16339) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun
          2002 01:41:05 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <119.13a8c306.2a4d50f1@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 01:41:05 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@aol.com>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 06/27/2002 8:26:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
verdie@EARTHLINK.NET writes:

<<
Get yourself some
narcotics.


>>

Tylenol 3 worked wonders with the pain from my broken ankle.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:57:58 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15041
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:57:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08820
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 18:20:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BB83D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 1:40:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12375233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 01:40:41 -0400
Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S5efl11494 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 01:40:41 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.178.a6ee5e1 (16339) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun
          2002 01:40:34 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <178.a6ee5e1.2a4d50d1@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 01:40:33 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@aol.com>
Subject:      Re: univ. shutdown now probable
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 06/27/2002 7:38:32 PM Central Daylight Time,
natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes:

<<
I just don't understand what it means for a student
who has kept up during the semester.
>>

Going over the notes, fixing definitions, making sure that nothing
is forgotten.  You may know the material before the test, but
studying the week before fixes the details.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:00 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15049
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:57:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08615
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 18:06:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E33916@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 1:21:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12374908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 01:26:39 -0400
Received: from biff.kiva.net (biff.kiva.net [216.9.137.5]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g5S5Qdl10489 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 01:26:39 -0400
Received: (qmail 29719 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2002 05:26:38 -0000
Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by biff.kiva.net with SMTP; 28
          Jun 2002 05:26:38 -0000
Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id 76E2934F11; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 00:26:38 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix)
          with ESMTP id 7630D2D643 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun
          2002 00:26:38 -0500 (EST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206280022230.7140-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 00:26:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tom Lee <flint@KIVA.NET>
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a05010418b9419e652d10@[192.168.1.100]>

        If you are using some variety of Unix, try typing "vacation" -- if
it's installed, it should create a .forward file and a .vacation.msg file
in your home directory and allow you to edit the .vacation.msg file.  The
.forward file tells the email system to forward your email to some
particular handler (in this case, to a program that sends email back to
the sender), and .vacation.msg is the message that the program will send
back.  To deactivate, delete the .forward and .vacation.msg files.

--
Take care,
Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
Probably most people who have Unix systems know this already though

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Janet Hardy wrote:

> >Is there a program (maybe free?) that sends an automated message when
> >e-mail is received and you're not there to answer it?
>
> Earthlink has one built in.
>
> Janet
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:02 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15052
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:57:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08346
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 17:49:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E338C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 1:04:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12374596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 01:09:59 -0400
Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.12]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5S59xl09297 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002
          01:09:59 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17No18-0003hw-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu,
          27 Jun 2002 22:09:59 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <20020627135943.4D0A37D99@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D1BACC7.F2B0366A@maynor.net>
            <a05010411b9416a27f58b@[192.168.1.100]>
            <3D1BC349.1A44E7FD@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010417b9419dba050b@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:06:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BC349.1A44E7FD@maynor.net>

>Janet Hardy wrote:
>
>>  If it tastes bad, I don't drink it. And I must Drink My Fluids (I'm
>>  not sure Diet Rite qualifies.)
>
>Why would Diet Rite not qualify?  Is it not fluid?

It's carbonated and loaded with artificial sweetener. The idea behind
drinking water is to help flush toxins out of your system, not to put
more in. Diet Rite's better than most soft drinks in that it doesn't
have caffeine or sugar, and I guess it's better than not drinking any
fluids at all, but it's no substitute for water.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:04 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15056
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08299
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 17:46:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BB6D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 1:06:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12374410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 01:06:36 -0400
Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.12]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5S56Zl08757 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002
          01:06:35 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17Nnxq-0000qp-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu,
          27 Jun 2002 22:06:35 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <3D1BCF3A.E0CA8BFA@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010418b9419e652d10@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:02:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BCF3A.E0CA8BFA@valstar.net>

>Is there a program (maybe free?) that sends an automated message when
>e-mail is received and you're not there to answer it?

Earthlink has one built in.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:08 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15066
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07588
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 16:47:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BB3AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 0:07:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12371136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 00:07:18 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S41ml01607 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 00:01:48 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust70.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.72]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003543674@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 00:01:25 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020628032304.328307F41@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BDFF9.3AE5CE3F@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 00:03:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> I poked through Netscape help, but I can't find anything. I need to
> send e-mail to My Newest Friend and then go to sleep.

Is that really your Newest? Not Newer? Because I think of New, Newer,
and Newest, so that Newest would be your third friend.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:17 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15077
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06941
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 16:02:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E331B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:17:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12368429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 23:23:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S3N5l29814 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:23:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 328307F41; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:23:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628032304.328307F41@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:23:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BD37D.966FDA76@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jun 27,
              2002 11: 9:49 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Nowhere. I just was thinking of having an alybooks.com address for
> orders from my web page that would reply right away to people. I get
> orders from the west coast and from Europe after I am in bed, and then
> it is a long time before those people hear from me the next day,
> especially the European ones. So I'd like to say "Thank you for your
> inquiry/order. Blah blah."
>
> Thanks for your info, Karen.

I poked through Netscape help, but I can't find anything. I need to
send e-mail to My Newest Friend and then go to sleep.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:16 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15070
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07466
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 16:39:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3335F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:54:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12369859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 23:59:53 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S3xrl00752 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:59:53 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust70.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.72]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003543619@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 23:59:51 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020628031233.B18827F5A@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BDF9C.F4DC03CF@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 00:01:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Are you using Netscape for mail?

Yes. But that could be changed if necessary (she says reluctantly).

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:20 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15085
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06747
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 15:52:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3313F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:07:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12368018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 23:12:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S3CYl28861 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:12:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B18827F5A; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:12:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628031233.B18827F5A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:12:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BD37D.966FDA76@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jun 27,
              2002 11: 9:49 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Betty wrote:
> >
> > Where are you going?
>
> Nowhere. I just was thinking of having an alybooks.com address for
> orders from my web page that would reply right away to people. I get
> orders from the west coast and from Europe after I am in bed, and then
> it is a long time before those people hear from me the next day,
> especially the European ones. So I'd like to say "Thank you for your
> inquiry/order. Blah blah."
>
> Thanks for your info, Karen.

Are you using Netscape for mail?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:21 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15087
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06684
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 15:47:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3309C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:02:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12367557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 23:08:08 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S388l28396 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:08:08 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust101.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.103]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003542799@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 23:08:07 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020627200807.00a9b5d0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BD37D.966FDA76@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:09:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:
>
> Where are you going?

Nowhere. I just was thinking of having an alybooks.com address for
orders from my web page that would reply right away to people. I get
orders from the west coast and from Europe after I am in bed, and then
it is a long time before those people hear from me the next day,
especially the European ones. So I'd like to say "Thank you for your
inquiry/order. Blah blah."

Thanks for your info, Karen.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:22 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15090
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06620
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 15:44:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32EE1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:59:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12366329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 23:04:37 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S34bl27726 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:04:37 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S34Xim024120 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:04:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020627200807.00a9b5d0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:08:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BCF3A.E0CA8BFA@valstar.net>

At 10:51 PM 6/27/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Is there a program (maybe free?) that sends an automated message when
>e-mail is received and you're not there to answer it?

Where are you going?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:24 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15093
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06557
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 15:42:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32D75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:57:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12365332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 23:02:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S32Cl27221 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:02:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 670727F58; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:02:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628030211.670727F58@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:02:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BCF3A.E0CA8BFA@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jun 27,
              2002 10:51:38 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Is there a program (maybe free?) that sends an automated message when
> e-mail is received and you're not there to answer it?

It's sometimes part of a mail program--I know it's part of Outlook.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:27 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15096
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06534
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 15:39:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32C20@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:54:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12364368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 23:00:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S303l26623 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:00:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3E63A7F58; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:00:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628030003.3E63A7F58@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:00:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272228030.15568-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 27, 2002 10:28:23 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >Isn't bursitis inflammation of the bursa? And the bursa is part of the
> >joint...
>
> Well, yes - but not part of the bone.

No. I thought you had denied it was a joint. Never mind.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:29 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15098
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06376
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 15:29:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32AC4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:44:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12363251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 22:50:00 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S2o0l25452 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:50:00 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust101.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.103]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003542401@mx0.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 22:49:57 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BCF3A.E0CA8BFA@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:51:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Is there a program (maybe free?) that sends an automated message when
e-mail is received and you're not there to answer it?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:32 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15109
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06262
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 15:23:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32A4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:38:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12362879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 22:43:47 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S2hll24859 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:43:47 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S2hgim019002 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:43:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020627181844.00a28580@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020627194709.00a9acb0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:47:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272226250.15568-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu >

At 10:27 PM 6/27/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Betty wrote:
>
> >Oh, I thought it was your knee.  Did you have an injury of any kind,
> >Bethany? Definitely stick with PT before considering any exercise.
>
>I'm back, briefly. I say "knee" just to identify the area of the
>body. It's actually the inside of the knee area, about 2 inches below the
>knee. The Merck Manual description of knee bursitis describes it exactly.

And then did you do a google on knee bursitis and treat yourself?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:35 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15114
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06243
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 15:22:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32A43@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:37:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12362532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 22:43:11 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S2XBl24037 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:33:11 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S2XAOI004050 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:33:10 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272232140.15568-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:33:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: univ. shutdown now probable
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BBF3F.D18EFA61@maynor.net>

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>So you're saying that your students sit around the night before the exam
>digesting?  I'd much rather see digestion occurring in a non-cram
>setting.  As I said earlier, studying for exams to me = cramming by
>goof-offs.  The students who have been tuned in all semester will <have
>it> by the exam time.  They can go to a movie the night before the exam
>rather than sitting around cramming.

Of course not. I do not consider reviewing for 5-7 days before an
exam. to be <cramming>.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:35 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15113
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06129
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 15:17:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BACFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:37:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12362394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 22:37:49 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S2Rnl23616 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:27:49 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S2RmOI002774 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:27:48 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272226250.15568-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:27:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020627181844.00a28580@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Betty wrote:

>Oh, I thought it was your knee.  Did you have an injury of any kind,
>Bethany? Definitely stick with PT before considering any exercise.

I'm back, briefly. I say "knee" just to identify the area of the
body. It's actually the inside of the knee area, about 2 inches below the
knee. The Merck Manual description of knee bursitis describes it exactly.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:38 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15120
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06141
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 15:18:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32A13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:33:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12362398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 22:38:24 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S2SOl23658 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:28:24 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S2SNOI002900 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:28:23 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272228030.15568-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:28:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628011822.68AD67F2C@yellow.rahul.net>

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>Isn't bursitis inflammation of the bursa? And the bursa is part of the
>joint...

Well, yes - but not part of the bone.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:38 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15121
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06178
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 15:19:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32A24@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:34:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12362447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 22:39:51 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S2Tpl23754 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:29:51 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S2ToOI003238 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:29:50 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272229040.15568-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:29:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a05010412b9416a820af8@[192.168.1.100]>

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Janet Hardy wrote:

>Fuck ibuprofen -- recent research shows that NSAIDs are less
>effective on women anyway (which corresponds to my own experience,
>although I've had decent results with ketoprofen). Get yourself some
>narcotics.

My vows prevent that, Janet!

I have a number of narcotics on hand - I do NOT like to take them.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:41 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15125
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06197
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 15:20:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32A34@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:35:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12362488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 22:40:58 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S2Uwl23871 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:30:58 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S2UvOI003538 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:30:57 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272230170.15568-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:30:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: drips
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BBB7C.603411F8@maynor.net>

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>The demise of TN hasn't made the news here yet.  I told my lunch friends
>about it, and it was a surprise to them all.  We laughed about how we
>weren't all that worried that UT would close permanently.  I mean just

No - permanently is not the issue. The second session of summer school IS
an issue at this point.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:43 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15132
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05912
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 15:07:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E329B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:22:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12362384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 22:27:23 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S2RMl23581 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:27:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E83A27E7C; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 19:27:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628022721.E83A27E7C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:27:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BC518.22EE64B6@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jun 27,
              2002  9: 8:24 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Well, I know what bottles are, and I sort of know what bins are -- as in
> something that holds stuff.  But I'm having trouble figuring out what
> kind of a bin in your kitchen holds bottles.  Is it like a can/cup
> holder in a car?  Or is it like the big popcorn container that I keep
> dry dogfood in?  Or like bin in Unix?  Or what?

It's a plastic bin in a cupboard. When I want a bottle, I pull it out
and poke through it for the right size.

> Thanks.  This is easier for me to follow than the bottle-bin thing,
> although I can't say that I can totally visualize it.  Its fanciness is
> well beyond my ken.

If you had any experience with refrigerators made in the past ten
years, you wouldn't think this is fancy.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:42 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15133
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05557
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:48:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E328BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:03:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12361763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 22:08:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S28Tl21879 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:08:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws244-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.244]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S28QQ29669
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:08:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020628013635.73DD87EAF@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BC518.22EE64B6@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:08:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > > It's a bin for bottles.
> >
> > I would guess that if taking a test that asked "what's a bottle-bin?"
> > What I don't know, however, is what that means.
>
> I don't how to make it clearer than that. What part don't you
> understand?

Well, I know what bottles are, and I sort of know what bins are -- as in
something that holds stuff.  But I'm having trouble figuring out what
kind of a bin in your kitchen holds bottles.  Is it like a can/cup
holder in a car?  Or is it like the big popcorn container that I keep
dry dogfood in?  Or like bin in Unix?  Or what?

> It's a fridge with a 'drink station' in the door. The water goes from
> wall behind the fridge through some tubing to a filter in the fridge,
> and from there to the ice-maker and water spigot.

Thanks.  This is easier for me to follow than the bottle-bin thing,
although I can't say that I can totally visualize it.  Its fanciness is
well beyond my ken.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:44 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15140
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05123
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:26:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E326ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:41:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12359524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:47:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1l9l17428 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:47:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 79A0C7EFB; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 18:47:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628014708.79A0C7EFB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:47:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Smell
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I love the smell of tomato plants.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:45 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15139
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05431
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:40:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BAAFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:00:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12361409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 22:00:47 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S20ll21114 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:00:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws244-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.244]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S20iQ27952
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:00:44 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020627135943.4D0A37D99@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D1BACC7.F2B0366A@maynor.net>
            <a05010411b9416a27f58b@[192.168.1.100]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BC349.1A44E7FD@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:00:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Janet Hardy wrote:

> If it tastes bad, I don't drink it. And I must Drink My Fluids (I'm
> not sure Diet Rite qualifies.)

Why would Diet Rite not qualify?  Is it not fluid?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:48 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15146
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05134
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:27:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E326EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:42:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12359528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:47:18 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1lIl17433 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:47:18 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust184.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.186]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004848768@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:47:12 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:48:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
> >
> So one can just call an out-of-town bank and ask for somebody's bank
> statements?  Like if you wanted copies of my bank statements, you could
> call my bank and they'd send them to you?

Your mother can request them. Write a letter and have her sign it. Which
reminds me, may I hope that the bank has been notified not to honor the
signature of the embezzler?

alyce
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:48 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15145
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05138
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:27:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E326F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:42:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12359535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:47:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1ldl17445 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:47:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4AEC67F15; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 18:47:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628014739.4AEC67F15@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:47:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a05010416b9416e0adf38@[192.168.1.100]> from Janet Hardy at "Jun
              27, 2002  6:37:19 pm"

Janet Hardy said:
> >Janet Hardy said:
> >>  Since I began using the "stain-and-varnish" lipsticks that last all
> >  > day,
> >
> >Do these <work>? Can you recommend a brand?
>
> Yes, they do -- they're terrific. Some women find them too
> dry-feeling, but they don't bother me much. I prefer Cover Girl, the
> one with "raisin" in the name.
>
> I only have to reapply if I've been eating something oily. I've
> occasionally gone to bed with lipstick on and woken up the next
> morning with it undisturbed.

What a recommendation! I'm going to Walmart tomorrow.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:49 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15152
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05051
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:23:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E326D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:38:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12359447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:43:33 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1hXl17104 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:43:33 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws154-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.154]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S1hUQ19835
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:43:30 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272036240.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BBF3F.D18EFA61@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:43:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: univ. shutdown now probable
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >So what did you do when studying for exams?  I see nothing <unfair>
> >about my statement.  I just don't understand what it means for a student
> >who has kept up during the semester.  Like if you have learned whatever
> >it is you're supposed to have learned in the course, wouldn't you have
> >learned it?  If you have, then what does studying for the exam mean?
>
> We must have totally different teaching methods. In my course, it
> is simply not possible to "have learned it" before it is over. IOW, I do
> not teach cumulatively. It's not fact 1 + fact 2 etc. It's learning fact 1
> and fact 2, then discovering when one learns process 3 that facts 1 and 2
> is isolation mean nothing. Etc. throughout the course. And the input comes
> from the text materials, the independent research, lectures, and - very
> importantly - observing what other students have learned as they have
> tried to connect the dots.

I don't get your point in relation to what I said.  What does it have to
do with facts?  In fact (haha), I would say that learning fact 1 + fact
2 etc. would be the kind of course that studying for an exam might be
important in -- like making sure you've memorized the <facts>.  That's
not my teaching style.  I don't have students memorize <facts>.  I don't
even make HOTEL students memorize Grimm's Law or the Great Vowel Shift.

>  >Wouldn't you already know what you needed to know? >
>
> Absolutely not. You might know some factual information - but you could
> not have digested the heart of the matter.

So you're saying that your students sit around the night before the exam
digesting?  I'd much rather see digestion occurring in a non-cram
setting.  As I said earlier, studying for exams to me = cramming by
goof-offs.  The students who have been tuned in all semester will <have
it> by the exam time.  They can go to a movie the night before the exam
rather than sitting around cramming.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:50 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15153
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05007
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:20:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BA997@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:41:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12359343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:41:14 -0400
Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5S1fDl16880 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002
          21:41:13 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17Nkl6-00015J-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu,
          27 Jun 2002 18:41:13 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <20020628013401.945897DF9@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010416b9416e0adf38@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:37:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628013401.945897DF9@yellow.rahul.net>

>Janet Hardy said:
>>  Since I began using the "stain-and-varnish" lipsticks that last all
>  > day,
>
>Do these <work>? Can you recommend a brand?

Yes, they do -- they're terrific. Some women find them too
dry-feeling, but they don't bother me much. I prefer Cover Girl, the
one with "raisin" in the name.

I only have to reapply if I've been eating something oily. I've
occasionally gone to bed with lipstick on and woken up the next
morning with it undisturbed.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:51 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15157
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04915
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:16:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32680@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:31:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12359156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:36:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1aal16556 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:36:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 73DD87EAF; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 18:36:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628013635.73DD87EAF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:36:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BBCE4.E22F2368@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jun 27,
              2002  8:33:24 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > What's a bottle-bin,
> >
> > It's a bin for bottles.
>
> I would guess that if taking a test that asked "what's a bottle-bin?"
> What I don't know, however, is what that means.

I don't how to make it clearer than that. What part don't you
understand?

> > > and what's filtered water from a fridge?
> >
> > Uhhhhh....filtered water that I get from my fridge.
>
> So the water drips out of your refrigerator through a filter of some
> kind?  I seriously don't understand.  Is there a faucet in the
> refrigerator, or does the water just drip constantly?  And what kind of
> filter does it go to?  Into what vessel?  What is being filtered out of
> it?

It's a fridge with a 'drink station' in the door. The water goes from
wall behind the fridge through some tubing to a filter in the fridge,
and from there to the ice-maker and water spigot.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:51 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15159
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04861
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:13:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32672@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:28:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12359089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:34:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1Y2l16386 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:34:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 945897DF9; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 18:34:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628013401.945897DF9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:34:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a05010414b9416c246d4e@[192.168.1.100]> from Janet Hardy at "Jun
              27, 2002  6:29: 1 pm"

Janet Hardy said:
> Since I began using the "stain-and-varnish" lipsticks that last all
> day,

Do these <work>? Can you recommend a brand?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:53 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15163
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04895
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:15:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3267A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:30:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12359131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:35:28 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1ZSl16493 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:35:28 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws154-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.154]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S1ZQQ17990
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:35:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020627172608.A16587@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020627152558.E6A657E79@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020627173829.E16587@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <4.2.2.20020627174845.00a80830@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BBD5C.7BAC095@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:35:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pilates etc.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> Do the grandchildren see their grandmother often?

No.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:53 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15165
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04830
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:12:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3266B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:27:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12359059 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:32:57 -0400
Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5S1Wvl16286 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002
          21:32:57 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17Nkd6-0007Dt-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu,
          27 Jun 2002 18:32:56 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGCEEEFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <3D1BBA38.4D405775@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010414b9416c246d4e@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:29:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BBA38.4D405775@maynor.net>

>A roll of paper towels is sort of like a tube of lipstick.
>It lasts forever and ever.

Since I began using the "stain-and-varnish" lipsticks that last all
day, I need to buy a new one every couple of months or so. Before, I
almost never wear lipstick, now I wear it almost every day. (The
bright hair seems to require it.)

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:57 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15172
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04824
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:12:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32668@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:27:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12359049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:32:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1WWl16269 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:32:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 146907EAF; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 18:32:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628013232.146907EAF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:32:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BBBDE.3174FFF5@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jun 27,
              2002  8:29: 2 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > Why?  What's revolting about it?  Are you saying that you use a
> > > dishcloth only one time before washing it?  I find that quite
> > > <extravagant>.
> >
> > Why? It probably uses less water to wash it immediately than it does
> > to rinse it repeatedly. And it doesn't significantly add to my
> > washload.
>
> So how many of these washcloths do you own?

Dishcloths. I have no idea. I have a pile in the drawer and a pile in
the linen closet that I use to refill the drawer.

> And how often do you wash
> clothes?

Once/week or so.

> I'm finding this intriguing.

You are easily intrigued.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:58:59 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15173
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04879
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:14:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32676@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:29:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12359113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:34:44 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1Yil16434 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:34:44 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws154-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.154]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S1YfQ17833
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:34:41 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020627015520.1F2077CE1@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627204000.00a11d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BBD2E.4BF21433@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:34:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>  Next question:  Do you
> wad the toilet paper for use or fold it into a neat little square?

Wad it neatly.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:03 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15179
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04875
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:14:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32675@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:29:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12359109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:34:40 -0400
Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5S1Yel16428 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002
          21:34:40 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #2) id 17Nkel-0006wI-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 18:34:39 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <20020628003111.729707EDC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D1BBBDE.3174FFF5@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010415b9416c9e89d2@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:30:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BBBDE.3174FFF5@maynor.net>

>Karen Kay wrote:
>
>>  > Why?  What's revolting about it?  Are you saying that you use a
>>  > dishcloth only one time before washing it?  I find that quite
>>  > <extravagant>.
>>
>>  Why? It probably uses less water to wash it immediately than it does
>>  to rinse it repeatedly. And it doesn't significantly add to my
>>  washload.
>
>So how many of these washcloths do you own?  And how often do you wash
>clothes?  I'm finding this intriguing.

FWIW, we own 10 or 12 washcloth/dishcloths; among other things, our
cleaning people require them. We launder them once a week or so, with
the rest of the towels.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:02 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15177
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:58:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04911
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:16:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3267F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:31:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12359152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:36:35 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1aWl16551 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:36:33 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-104.panax.com
          [63.163.41.104]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5S1aTj14358 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002
          21:36:29 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272034510.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272034510.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020627213542.00a35020@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:36:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a05010412b9416a820af8@[192.168.1.100]>

>Fuck ibuprofen -- recent research shows that NSAIDs are less
>effective on women anyway     --Janet

Wow.  I hadn't seen that.  Ibuprofen has done wonders for me.  It's the
rowers' friend.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:04 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15187
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04779
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:10:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BA909@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:30:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12359001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:30:36 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1Ual16112 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:30:36 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws154-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.154]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S1UYQ16840
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:30:34 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020627132304.00a834a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020627173647.00a7dc00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BBC37.AF2CE097@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:30:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: My kitchen
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> Thanks, Natalie.  When do you become a free woman?  How are the dogs
> getting along together?

The dogs are having a great time together.  As for becoming a free
woman, that depends.  Technically I will be retired Monday.  But in fact
I will remain busier than ever with work stuff until at least December,
possibly spring semester also.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:04 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15192
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04741
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:08:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3263F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:23:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12358889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:29:07 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1T7l15878 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:29:07 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws154-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.154]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S1T5Q16496
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:29:05 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020628003111.729707EDC@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BBBDE.3174FFF5@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:29:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > Why?  What's revolting about it?  Are you saying that you use a
> > dishcloth only one time before washing it?  I find that quite
> > <extravagant>.
>
> Why? It probably uses less water to wash it immediately than it does
> to rinse it repeatedly. And it doesn't significantly add to my
> washload.

So how many of these washcloths do you own?  And how often do you wash
clothes?  I'm finding this intriguing.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:07 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15185
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04759
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:09:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BA8FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:29:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12358972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:29:41 -0400
Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5S1Tel16001 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002
          21:29:40 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17NkZv-0003DZ-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu,
          27 Jun 2002 18:29:39 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <20020627161828.E852C7E8B@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D1BB3CC.7730B4F1@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010413b9416b0e2bfe@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:25:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@earthlink.net>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BB3CC.7730B4F1@maynor.net>

>do you use your washing machine?  Although I'm sure that your way is the
><cleanest>, I'm not convinced that living with a few household bacteria
>is all that bad.

Personal Triumph Dept: The bathroom sink at our office has been
semi-clogged, then completely clogged, for several months. Multiple
calls to our landlord didn't help. So today I spent $7 on a toilet
plunger and started plunging. A lot of the most disgusting stuff you
can imagine came up -- my personal guess is that it constituted about
two decades' worth of moldy coffee -- but it was just spurting
through the cleanout. So I blocked the cleanout with paper towels and
went on plunging. And Voila! -- all of a sudden the sink let out a
deathlike gurgle and all the murky smelly gray contents went
whooshing down the drain. And now it drains perfectly.

Cash flow sucks, but at least the sink works.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:12 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15197
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04843
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:13:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3266F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:28:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12359073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:33:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1XSl16324 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:33:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws154-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.154]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S1XQQ17593
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:33:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020628003814.59FDA7F2C@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BBCE4.E22F2368@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:33:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > What's a bottle-bin,
>
> It's a bin for bottles.

I would guess that if taking a test that asked "what's a bottle-bin?"
What I don't know, however, is what that means.

> > and what's filtered water from a fridge?
>
> Uhhhhh....filtered water that I get from my fridge.

So the water drips out of your refrigerator through a filter of some
kind?  I seriously don't understand.  Is there a faucet in the
refrigerator, or does the water just drip constantly?  And what kind of
filter does it go to?  Into what vessel?  What is being filtered out of
it?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:14 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15201
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04704
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:07:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BA8DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:27:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12358870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:27:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1RTl15804 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:27:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws154-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.154]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S1RRQ15967
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:27:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206271953380.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BBB7C.603411F8@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:27:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: drips
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> I recall (from discussion here) that calculating basis is a nuisance - I
> will keep very careful records (I have never DRIPed before.) Actually,

There's nothing innately bothersome about calculating DRIPs.  My problem
was that I kept turning on and off the DRIPing of SouthCo back in the
'70s before I realized the importance of keeping records.  Once I
realized that I needed those records, it was too late to get them.

> Who knows? There may not be a Great State of TN after midnight
> Sunday.

The demise of TN hasn't made the news here yet.  I told my lunch friends
about it, and it was a surprise to them all.  We laughed about how we
weren't all that worried that UT would close permanently.  I mean just
think about the complications that would cause for football schedules.
Somebody did tell a story of some university (can't remember which one
now) that closed for budgetary reasons sometime in the '50s and then
reopened several months later and that there were some pay problems for
faculty during the interim.  But ultimately they got paid.  Sounded sort
of like the stories I've heard about MSU during the Depression.  People
got paid with IOUs, but every store in town carried everybody on credit
the whole way through.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:15 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15205
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04685
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:05:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BA8BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:25:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12358826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:25:47 -0400
Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5S1Pll15674 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002
          21:25:47 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17NkWA-00009r-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu,
          27 Jun 2002 18:25:46 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272034510.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010412b9416a820af8@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:21:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272034510.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

>On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>
>>Injected corticosteroids destroy ligaments and tendons. I would be
>>quite leery of them.
>
>I know. But the destruction occurs over many years. Meanwhile, I cannot
>walk - and I am in pain all the time (yes, I am taking ibuprofen).

Fuck ibuprofen -- recent research shows that NSAIDs are less
effective on women anyway (which corresponds to my own experience,
although I've had decent results with ketoprofen). Get yourself some
narcotics.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:16 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15211
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04609
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:01:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3261E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:16:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12358771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:22:06 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1M6l15489 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:22:06 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws154-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.154]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S1M3Q14538
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:22:04 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGCEEEFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BBA38.4D405775@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:22:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:

> Now for the more important question: Which way do you hang your paper
> towels? I hang mine so that they unroll from the top. I grew up with them
> unrolling from the bottom and hated it because I'd always pull the roll off
> the holder.

Mine unroll from the top, I think.  Yes, I'm almost sure.  It's not
something I think about often since I don't really pull them off all
that often.  A roll of paper towels is sort of like a tube of lipstick.
It lasts forever and ever.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:16 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15209
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04546
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:59:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3260D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:14:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12358710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:19:27 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1JRl15284 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:19:27 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws154-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.154]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S1JNQ13870
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:19:24 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020627143756.301987E4E@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D1B61CC.FF46071E@pop.mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BB998.D02C1D6E@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:19:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sylvia Edwards wrote:

> Do the RRB and RRSIL know that there has been a problem?  If they do and
> they don't consider it worth fiddling with, why should Natalie?

They don't care about any of it.  When I've mentioned things to them,
they've been totally ho-hum.  As I think I've said before, I am mightily
envious of only children.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:19 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15220
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04520
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:58:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BA862@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:18:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12358649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:18:23 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1INl15118 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:18:23 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 68AD67F2C; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 18:18:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628011822.68AD67F2C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:18:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272058050.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 27, 2002  8:58:37 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Betty wrote:
>
> >Amputation or Pilates.
>
> But what do I amputate? No joint is directly involved.

Isn't bursitis inflammation of the bursa? And the bursa is part of the
joint...

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:18 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15219
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04588
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:00:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32616@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:15:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12358444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:21:07 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1B7l14487 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:11:07 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S1B6OI012062 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:11:06 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272110290.14711-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:11:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628010119.4CE597F33@yellow.rahul.net>

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>And they aren't helping? Your ROM hasn't improved?

They have helped a great deal. I have no problem with ROM. What I have is
inflammation and pain.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:19 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15217
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04578
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:00:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32613@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:15:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12358736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:20:33 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1KXl15367 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:20:33 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws154-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.154]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S1KTQ14109
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:20:30 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206271950180.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BB9DA.B0C9ED9F@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:20:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> I don't know why I did not just buy a new car today!

I don't either.  Sounds like the wisest move to me in your
circumstances.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:21 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15228
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04555
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:59:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3260E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:14:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12358714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:19:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1Jjl15291 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:19:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C83C47F3F; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 18:19:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628011944.C83C47F3F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:19:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020627181844.00a28580@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jun 27, 2002  6:20:26 pm"

Betty said:
> Oh, I thought it was your knee.  Did you have an injury of any kind,
> Bethany? Definitely stick with PT before considering any exercise.

Pilates for rehab won't be exercise per se. It will mostly help her
relax so she stops making weird compensations.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:20 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15227
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04649
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:03:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BA8A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:24:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12358538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:23:58 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1Dwl14748 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:13:58 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S1DvOI012847 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:13:57 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272111350.14711-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:13:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Thank you
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

for all the advice. I must shower and take to my bed now. I shall check
for more advice in the morning.

Spa Week will either be radically redefined or postponed. I had intended
to have 3-4 workouts per day - one on horseback, one at the Y, one at the
Pilates studio, etc. - I cannot do all those things right now. I
must take care of the pain and inflammation first.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:20 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15230
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04488
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:56:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E325F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:11:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12358605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:16:33 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S1GXl14970 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:16:33 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S1GVim006161 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:16:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020627175659.00a328b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020627181844.00a28580@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:20:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272058050.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

At 08:58 PM 6/27/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Betty wrote:
>
> >Amputation or Pilates.
>
>But what do I amputate? No joint is directly involved.

Oh, I thought it was your knee.  Did you have an injury of any kind,
Bethany? Definitely stick with PT before considering any exercise.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:24 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15238
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04374
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:48:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E325B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:03:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:09:02 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0wcl13437 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:58:38 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S0wbOI008760 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:58:37 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272058050.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:58:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020627175659.00a328b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Betty wrote:

>Amputation or Pilates.

But what do I amputate? No joint is directly involved.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:23 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15234
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04645
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 14:03:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BA8A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:23:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12358784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:23:57 -0400
Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5S1Nvl15543 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002
          21:23:57 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17NkUO-0005pF-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu,
          27 Jun 2002 18:23:56 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <20020627135943.4D0A37D99@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D1BACC7.F2B0366A@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010411b9416a27f58b@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:20:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@earthlink.net>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BACC7.F2B0366A@maynor.net>

>Karen Kay wrote:
>
>>  Why a single-serving bottle, though? (I have a bottle-bin in my
>>  kitchen--I refill them with filtered water from my fridge.)
>
>What's a bottle-bin, and what's filtered water from a fridge?  All of
>this strikes me as quite <elaborate>.  I still don't understand what's
>wrong with just sticking your mouth under the faucet and turning on the
>faucet.  Somebody (Verdant, I think) said that some people don't like
>the taste of tap water.  And yes, I know it varies.  I learned that very
>early in life because water on the coast tasted famously weird.  I
>wonder if it still does.  Anyway, who cares?  Getting used to
>odd-tasting water isn't that hard.

If it tastes bad, I don't drink it. And I must Drink My Fluids (I'm
not sure Diet Rite qualifies.)

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:27 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15248
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04194
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:41:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32551@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:56:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12358017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:01:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S11Kl13664 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:01:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4CE597F33; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 18:01:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628010119.4CE597F33@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:01:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272047590.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 27, 2002  8:48:35 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >Have you been to a PT?
>
> I have been going to one for three weeks now. Two, actually (PTs).

And they aren't helping? Your ROM hasn't improved?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:27 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15247
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04160
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:38:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BA74B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:59:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:59:02 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0mal12709 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:48:36 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S0mZOI005962 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:48:35 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272047590.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:48:35 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628004722.22B857F39@yellow.rahul.net>

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>Have you been to a PT?

I have been going to one for three weeks now. Two, actually (PTs).

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:27 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15250
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04129
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:37:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BA73A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:57:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:57:26 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0lQl12576 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:47:26 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S0lPOI005470 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:47:25 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272046480.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:47:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628004611.61D977F25@yellow.rahul.net>

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>Pilates will help.

Later, perhaps, I could not DO Pilates right now. I could not get to the
Pilates Studio, probably.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:29 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15257
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04146
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:38:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3251D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:53:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:58:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0wGl13418 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:58:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 160AB7F2F; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 17:58:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628005815.160AB7F2F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:58:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BB3CC.7730B4F1@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jun 27,
              2002  7:54:36 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I generally wash the dishcloths (in the washing maschine) between
> > uses.
>
> So you use a dishcloth just once?

Most of the time. It's usually dirty.

> How many do you have?

I don't know. An 8" pile.

> Or how often
> do you use your washing machine?

Once/week or so.

> > If a paper towel isn't totally used up, I leave it on the counter. But
> > I don't leave them around for days. Ick!
>
> This must be why I get sick so much more often than you do. ;-)
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>     retiring without ever having missed a day of work from illness in a
> fairly     long career

I'm pretty sure that leaving used paper towels around for days doesn't
have much to do with it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:29 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15256
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04099
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:35:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E324F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:51:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:56:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0uCl13299 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:56:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3E9827E8D; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 17:56:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628005612.3E9827E8D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:56:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020627174532.01ed2a80@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Jun 27, 2002  5:49:58 pm"

Peter Kaminski said:
> Anachronisms: In the 1950s, Alicia is shown in her kitchen with a
> Tupperware Wonderlier covered bowl that wasn't available until the 1970s.

Whew. I am not crazy.

> Anachronisms: In John Nash's neighborhood during the 1950s, one of the
> houses has a modern-day plastic telephone box on the outside.
>
> Anachronisms: The baby's pacifier shown on the floor is clearly a Nuk
> orthodontic pacifier. This brand (made by Gerber) was not made available in
> the US until well into the 1960s.

I noticed this, but it didn't drive me crazy.

> Anachronisms: A plastic laundry basket appears in a scene taking place in
> the 1950s.

Wow, I would never have twigged.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:29 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15255
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04184
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:40:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BA763@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:00:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 21:00:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S10pl13594 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:00:51 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BED837F2B; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 18:00:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628010050.BED837F2B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:00:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272046480.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 27, 2002  8:47:25 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >Pilates will help.
>
> Later, perhaps, I could not DO Pilates right now. I could not get to the
> Pilates Studio, probably.

Trust me:  this is when you need it most. You will walk in crippled
and spring out of there like a teenager. (Not a class, obviously, but
a session with a trainer.)

To be honest, though, if I weren't doing Pilates already, I'd probably
go to a PT first.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:31 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15264
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04080
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:35:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E324F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:50:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:55:28 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0tSl13248 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:55:28 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S0tOim003068 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:55:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020627085731.00a35380@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020627175816.00a8dee0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:59:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BB24E.C707544D@maynor.net>

At 07:48 PM 6/27/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
> >
> > So, why aren't we talking about it or responding to questions?  Has it been
> > cancelled or never was to be? I'd be pissed if I were planning on attending
> > which I could have been.
>
>I've yet to hear a date, among other reasons for my silence.  Normally
>the date (as in July 4 itself or a date just before or after) has been
>established many, many months in advance so that people can make travel
>plans.  Nor have I heard anything about the actual events planned or
>about accommodations.  Nor a roster of those planning to attend.  All of
>this led me to believe that it wasn't <real>.  And that makes me sad,
>given our robust fest history.

I do hear by declare that CajunFest was the words-l  gathering for
2002.  Make it so.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:31 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15269
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04032
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:33:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E324C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:48:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:53:27 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0rRl13115 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:53:27 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S0rNim029260 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:53:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020628003256.212647EE8@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020627175659.00a328b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:57:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272034510.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

At 08:35 PM 6/27/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> >Injected corticosteroids destroy ligaments and tendons. I would be
> >quite leery of them.
>
>I know. But the destruction occurs over many years. Meanwhile, I cannot
>walk - and I am in pain all the time (yes, I am taking ibuprofen).

Amputation or Pilates.

BB

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:31 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15266
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04065
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:34:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BA71B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:54:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:54:42 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0sgl13201 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:54:42 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws41-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.41]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S0sdQ08162
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:54:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020627161828.E852C7E8B@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BB3CC.7730B4F1@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:54:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I generally wash the dishcloths (in the washing maschine) between
> uses.

So you use a dishcloth just once?  How many do you have?  Or how often
do you use your washing machine?  Although I'm sure that your way is the
<cleanest>, I'm not convinced that living with a few household bacteria
is all that bad.

> If a paper towel isn't totally used up, I leave it on the counter. But
> I don't leave them around for days. Ick!

This must be why I get sick so much more often than you do. ;-)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
    retiring without ever having missed a day of work from illness in a
fairly     long career

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:33 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15275
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04020
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:32:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E324B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:47:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:52:48 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0qml13058 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:52:48 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D440B7CDD; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 17:52:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628005247.D440B7CDD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:52:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BB24E.C707544D@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jun 27,
              2002  7:48:14 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> I've yet to hear a date, among other reasons for my silence.  Normally
> the date (as in July 4 itself or a date just before or after) has been
> established many, many months in advance so that people can make travel
> plans.

The date is July 4th.

> Nor have I heard anything about the actual events planned or
> about accommodations.

I mentioned events and asked for a show of hands and got no
response. No one has asked about accommodations.

> Nor a roster of those planning to attend.

It looks like it's going to be Me, Myself, and I.

> All of this led me to believe that it wasn't <real>.

It's real.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:33 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15277
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03997
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:32:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E324AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:47:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:51:48 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0fml12042 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:41:48 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S0flOI003600 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:41:47 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272036240.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:41:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: univ. shutdown now probable
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BAF75.9B2B294D@maynor.net>

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>So what did you do when studying for exams?  I see nothing <unfair>
>about my statement.  I just don't understand what it means for a student
>who has kept up during the semester.  Like if you have learned whatever
>it is you're supposed to have learned in the course, wouldn't you have
>learned it?  If you have, then what does studying for the exam mean?

We must have totally different teaching methods. In my course, it
is simply not possible to "have learned it" before it is over. IOW, I do
not teach cumulatively. It's not fact 1 + fact 2 etc. It's learning fact 1
and fact 2, then discovering when one learns process 3 that facts 1 and 2
is isolation mean nothing. Etc. throughout the course. And the input comes
from the text materials, the independent research, lectures, and - very
importantly - observing what other students have learned as they have
tried to connect the dots.

 >Wouldn't you already know what you needed to know? >

Absolutely not. You might know some factual information - but you could
not have digested the heart of the matter.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:34 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15278
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04034
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:33:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E324C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:48:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:53:28 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0rSl13119 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:53:28 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020628005322.FLFU29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 00:53:22 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEEGFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020627174532.01ed2a80@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:49:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628003941.88C447F32@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen Kay writes,

>I finally saw 'A Beautiful Mind' today, and I swear there is
>anachronistic tupperware in there.

BTW, for typeface-in-film anachronism geeks, check out
<http://ms-studio.com/typecasting.html>

Just the anachronisms from <http://us.imdb.com/Goofs?0268978>:

Anachronisms: In 1951 Nash drinks from a paper cup with the "recycled"
symbol on it. The symbol didn't come into use until much later.

Anachronisms: The light switch on the wall in John and Alicia Nash's house
is of a modern design.

Anachronisms: In the 1950s, Alicia is shown in her kitchen with a
Tupperware Wonderlier covered bowl that wasn't available until the 1970s.

Anachronisms: In John Nash's neighborhood during the 1950s, one of the
houses has a modern-day plastic telephone box on the outside.

Anachronisms: The baby's pacifier shown on the floor is clearly a Nuk
orthodontic pacifier. This brand (made by Gerber) was not made available in
the US until well into the 1960s.

Anachronisms: A plastic laundry basket appears in a scene taking place in
the 1950s.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:36 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15284
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03883
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:27:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3242E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:42:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:47:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0lNl12570 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:47:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 22B857F39; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 17:47:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628004722.22B857F39@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:47:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272034510.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 27, 2002  8:35:46 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> >Injected corticosteroids destroy ligaments and tendons. I would be
> >quite leery of them.
>
> I know. But the destruction occurs over many years. Meanwhile, I cannot
> walk - and I am in pain all the time (yes, I am taking ibuprofen).

Have you been to a PT?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:36 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15287
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03891
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:27:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BA6C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:48:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:48:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0m0l12665 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:48:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0A4BB7F39; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 17:48:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628004800.0A4BB7F39@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:47:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEEIFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jun 27, 2002  8:48:18 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> First, I hang it the same way as my paper towels, as you undoubtedly know
> from being here. Second, I'm a folder. Third, I only buy Charmin Ultra.

The Costco brand TP is pretty good.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:44 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15298
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03824
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:25:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E323F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:40:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:45:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0jPl12321 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:45:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B755C7F12; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 17:45:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628004524.B755C7F12@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:45:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEEHFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jun 27, 2002  8:41:25 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> > They have to unroll from the top.
> >
> > Karen
>
> You're right. I should have said, so that the perforation causes the towel
> to break on the front of the roll, rather than the back.

Well, as you've already noted, breaking on the back of the roll is
stupid.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:47 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15304
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03847
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:25:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3240F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:41:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:46:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0kCl12424 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:46:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 61D977F25; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 17:46:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628004611.61D977F25@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:46:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020627203143.00b7b330@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jun 27, 2002  8:39:20 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> At 07:53 PM 6/27/2002 -0400, bethany wrote:
> >I can barely walk now - this is a real nuisance - I have been studying the
> >Merck manual and I now think that I have bursitis. Does anyone have
> >experience of this? Fortunately, there appears to be a solution - an
> >injection of corticosteroid.
>
> Cortisone is not a "solution."  However, it <may> reduce the inflammation
> sufficiently for you to proceed with therapy---that is where the solution
> lies.  If you really do have bursitis, then get thee to a good orthopod
> now.  The next step after bursitis is a "frozen joint," which is precisely
> what the term implies.

Pilates will help.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:45 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15299
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03841
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:25:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3240E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:40:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:46:11 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0kBl12419 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:46:11 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020628004606.XPYF6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 00:46:06 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEEIFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:48:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020627204000.00a11d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>

> I hang everything so that it unrolls from the top.  Next question:  Do you
> wad the toilet paper for use or fold it into a neat little square?

First, I hang it the same way as my paper towels, as you undoubtedly know
from being here. Second, I'm a folder. Third, I only buy Charmin Ultra.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:49 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15306
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03820
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:25:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E323F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:40:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:45:18 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0jHl12316 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:45:18 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S0jDim020225 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:45:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020627172608.A16587@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020627152558.E6A657E79@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020627173829.E16587@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020627174845.00a80830@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:49:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates etc.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BAEEA.2C25EC9A@maynor.net>

At 07:33 PM 6/27/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>steph wrote:
>
> > Do you think he even knows?  But anyway, if Natalie cared to
> > contact a lawyer, and asked her brother, he would certainly know
> > who to contact.  He probably even has a longstanding relationship
> > with one.
>
>ROFL!  He knows all the <good> lawyers -- those who rake in bundles as
>lobbyists in Washington, etc.  But why would he tell me who to contact?
>
> > Actually the general Maynor reaction to all of this seems to be
> > that they are too embarrassed to say that they were just a bit
> > stoopid.
>
>??  You know zip about my RRB&SIL.  They wouldn't be embarrassed at
>all.  They simply don't care.  They are worth many, many millions of
>dollars and see anything less than a million as chicken feed not to
>notice at all.  They certainly wouldn't give up their time to oversee
>something so trivial.  My RRB would never give up a golf game for
>something like that.  My RRSIL would never give up spa time or
>entertaining Dubya or whatever for something like that.  They see it as
>of no importance whatsoever.

Do the grandchildren see their grandmother often?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:40 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15292
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03829
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:25:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BA695@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:45:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357246 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:45:47 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0Zll11580 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:35:47 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S0ZkOI000845 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:35:46 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272034510.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:35:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628003256.212647EE8@yellow.rahul.net>

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>Injected corticosteroids destroy ligaments and tendons. I would be
>quite leery of them.

I know. But the destruction occurs over many years. Meanwhile, I cannot
walk - and I am in pain all the time (yes, I am taking ibuprofen).

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:50 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15312
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03743
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:20:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BA65A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:40:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:40:53 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0eql12004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:40:52 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-104.panax.com
          [63.163.41.104]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5S0eqj04937 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002
          20:40:52 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020627015520.1F2077CE1@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020627204000.00a11d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:40:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGCEEEFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

>Now for the more important question: Which way do you hang your paper
>towels? I hang mine so that they unroll from the top. I grew up with them
>unrolling from the bottom and hated it because I'd always pull the roll off
>the holder.      --Adam

I hang everything so that it unrolls from the top.  Next question:  Do you
wad the toilet paper for use or fold it into a neat little square?


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:50 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15311
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03756
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:21:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E323B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:36:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357154 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:41:29 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0VFl11204 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:31:15 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S0VEOI031623 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:31:14 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272026340.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:31:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: civic duty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BA9EA.EAD63907@maynor.net>

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> Yet I would do the same thing again.
>
>And how much traveling between states did that require?

As you surely recall, my travelling was between the Old City and a
pawnshop on Magnolia Avenue and the City-County Bldg in Knoxville. I made
numerous trips to file charges and to testify.

As soon as you find out - from competent local or AL authority - whether
you need to travel at all - you will be able to make a good decision about
whether to file charges, I think.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:51 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15316
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03716
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:19:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3238B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:34:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:39:38 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0dHl11864 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:39:17 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020628003912.WGWW903.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 00:39:12 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEEHFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:41:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628003356.B9D4D7F1E@yellow.rahul.net>

> They have to unroll from the top.
>
> Karen

You're right. I should have said, so that the perforation causes the towel
to break on the front of the roll, rather than the back.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:52 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15322
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03722
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:19:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BA648@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:39:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:39:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0dgl11889 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:39:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 88C447F32; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 17:39:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628003941.88C447F32@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:39:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEEGFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jun 27, 2002  8:32:59 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> whose milestones are McDonalds' change of packaging and the center
> high-mount tail light (not really but fun to say)

I finally saw 'A Beautiful Mind' today, and I swear there is
anachronistic tupperware in there.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:52 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15325
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03685
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:18:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32374@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:33:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:38:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0cFl11798 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:38:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 59FDA7F2C; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 17:38:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628003814.59FDA7F2C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:38:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BACC7.F2B0366A@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jun 27,
              2002  7:24:39 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Why a single-serving bottle, though? (I have a bottle-bin in my
> > kitchen--I refill them with filtered water from my fridge.)
>
> What's a bottle-bin,

It's a bin for bottles.

> and what's filtered water from a fridge?

Uhhhhh....filtered water that I get from my fridge.

> All of
> this strikes me as quite <elaborate>.

I don't see why.

> Getting used to
> odd-tasting water isn't that hard.

I think smoking has destroyed your sense of taste--or you've never
lived in L.A.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:53 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15321
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03720
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:19:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BA646@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:39:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:39:38 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0dOl11878 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:39:25 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-59.panax.com
          [65.114.190.59]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5S0dOj04748 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002
          20:39:24 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020627203143.00b7b330@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:39:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206271950180.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

At 07:53 PM 6/27/2002 -0400, bethany wrote:
>I can barely walk now - this is a real nuisance - I have been studying the
>Merck manual and I now think that I have bursitis. Does anyone have
>experience of this? Fortunately, there appears to be a solution - an
>injection of corticosteroid.

Cortisone is not a "solution."  However, it <may> reduce the inflammation
sufficiently for you to proceed with therapy---that is where the solution
lies.  If you really do have bursitis, then get thee to a good orthopod
now.  The next step after bursitis is a "frozen joint," which is precisely
what the term implies.

I haven't had bursitis per se, but I've had tendonitis (just short of
bursitis, according to my orthopod) in my shoulder bad enough to reduce the
range of motion more than 60%.  Cortisone is fine as a first step but it is
not a cure.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:55 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15332
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03516
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:11:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E322F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:26:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:31:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0Vcl11227 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:31:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CA2C57F11; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 17:31:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628003137.CA2C57F11@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:31:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BA629.99C6942A@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jun 27,
              2002  6:56:25 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > > Towels on towel holders do not get soaked when the counter does.
> >
> > Yes! I remember this.
>
> Why would a counter get soaked?

You name it, I've spilled it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:55 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15331
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03579
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:13:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32322@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:28:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:33:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0Xvl11416 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:33:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B9D4D7F1E; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 17:33:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628003356.B9D4D7F1E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:33:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGCEEEFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jun 27, 2002  8: 7:27 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> > I don't use them near the sink. I use them near the fridge and the
> > island in the middle of my kitchen. Occasionally near the stove.
>
> You mean that's not all the same in your kitchen? Wow.

No. I have two sinks, too.:)

> Now for the more important question: Which way do you hang your paper
> towels? I hang mine so that they unroll from the top. I grew up with them
> unrolling from the bottom and hated it because I'd always pull the roll off
> the holder.

They have to unroll from the top.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:55 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15334
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03556
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:13:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32315@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:28:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:33:25 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0XOl11385 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:33:25 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S0XNim001371 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:33:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020627132304.00a834a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020627173647.00a7dc00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:37:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: My kitchen
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BA982.6FBE740@maynor.net>

At 07:10 PM 6/27/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > Peace on you.
>
>Welcome back, BB!  You were sorely missed.

Thanks, Natalie.  When do you become a free woman?  How are the dogs
getting along together?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:40 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15295
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03917
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:28:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BA6CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:49:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:49:06 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0n6l12744 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:49:06 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws41-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.41]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S0n2Q06111
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:49:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020627085731.00a35380@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BB24E.C707544D@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:48:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: BatFest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:
>
> So, why aren't we talking about it or responding to questions?  Has it been
> cancelled or never was to be? I'd be pissed if I were planning on attending
> which I could have been.

I've yet to hear a date, among other reasons for my silence.  Normally
the date (as in July 4 itself or a date just before or after) has been
established many, many months in advance so that people can make travel
plans.  Nor have I heard anything about the actual events planned or
about accommodations.  Nor a roster of those planning to attend.  All of
this led me to believe that it wasn't <real>.  And that makes me sad,
given our robust fest history.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:57 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15340
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03512
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:11:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BA5DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:31:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:31:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0VCl11196 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:31:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 729707EDC; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 17:31:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628003111.729707EDC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:31:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BA605.F8BA4E7@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jun 27,
              2002  6:55:49 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> > > Not to mention the environmental effects of
> > > washing, especially if using a machine.
> >
> > I use a frontloader.
>
> ?  What does where you load have to do with anything?

Frontloaders are more environmentally friendly than toploaders.

[revolting paragraph snipped]
> > I find this entirely revolting. I'm sorry I read that paragraph.
>
> Why?  What's revolting about it?  Are you saying that you use a
> dishcloth only one time before washing it?  I find that quite
> <extravagant>.

Why? It probably uses less water to wash it immediately than it does
to rinse it repeatedly. And it doesn't significantly add to my
washload.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:57 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15342
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03540
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:12:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3230E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:27:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:32:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0Wul11328 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:32:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 212647EE8; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 17:32:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628003256.212647EE8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:32:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206271950180.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 27, 2002  7:53:13 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> I can barely walk now - this is a real nuisance - I have been studying the
> Merck manual and I now think that I have bursitis. Does anyone have
> experience of this? Fortunately, there appears to be a solution - an
> injection of corticosteroid.

Injected corticosteroids destroy ligaments and tendons. I would be
quite leery of them.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:59:57 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15343
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03642
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:15:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3234B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:30:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:36:11 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0aAl11621 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:36:10 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws197-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.197]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S0a7Q02712
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:36:08 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020627155101.HMQL9178.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BAF75.9B2B294D@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:36:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: univ. shutdown now probable
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lisa Alfieri wrote:
>
> >To me, "studying for exams" is something for goof-offs.
>  >But re the student you mentioned with three exams --
> our >max load in summer is two courses.
>
> That's not fair Natalie. Even when I did well in a course
> I still had to study for the exams.

So what did you do when studying for exams?  I see nothing <unfair>
about my statement.  I just don't understand what it means for a student
who has kept up during the semester.  Like if you have learned whatever
it is you're supposed to have learned in the course, wouldn't you have
learned it?  If you have, then what does studying for the exam mean?
Wouldn't you already know what you needed to know?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:01 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15349
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03570
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:13:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32321@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:28:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:33:52 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0Xpl11410 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:33:51 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws197-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.197]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S0XnQ02148
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:33:49 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020627172608.A16587@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020627152558.E6A657E79@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020627173829.E16587@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BAEEA.2C25EC9A@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:33:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pilates etc.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> Do you think he even knows?  But anyway, if Natalie cared to
> contact a lawyer, and asked her brother, he would certainly know
> who to contact.  He probably even has a longstanding relationship
> with one.

ROFL!  He knows all the <good> lawyers -- those who rake in bundles as
lobbyists in Washington, etc.  But why would he tell me who to contact?

> Actually the general Maynor reaction to all of this seems to be
> that they are too embarrassed to say that they were just a bit
> stoopid.

??  You know zip about my RRB&SIL.  They wouldn't be embarrassed at
all.  They simply don't care.  They are worth many, many millions of
dollars and see anything less than a million as chicken feed not to
notice at all.  They certainly wouldn't give up their time to oversee
something so trivial.  My RRB would never give up a golf game for
something like that.  My RRSIL would never give up spa time or
entertaining Dubya or whatever for something like that.  They see it as
of no importance whatsoever.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:03 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15352
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 07:59:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03503
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:10:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E322E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:25:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:30:52 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0Uql11176 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:30:52 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020628003047.EUIB29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 00:30:47 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEEGFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:32:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BAB00.F26290CC@maynor.net>

> Allegiance that had occurred earlier.  That subject arose at lunch
> today, and I wasn't the only one who remembers finding the addition of
> those words annoying.  One person today said that it threw off the whole
> rhythm of the thing.

*shrug* I don't know it any other way, and it was always a good resting
point, just like "the land of the free {rest rest} and the home of the
brave" in the last line of the first verse of the Star Spangled Banner.

I am feeling especially young on-list today, what with all this talk about
stars being added to the flag, the IGWT being added to the money, etc. Thank
you!

--Adam
whose milestones are McDonalds' change of packaging and the center
high-mount tail light (not really but fun to say)
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:07 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15355
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03451
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:06:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3229E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:22:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:27:14 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0RDl10853 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:27:13 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws197-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.197]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S0RBQ27655
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:27:12 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BAD5D.DF44A596@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:27:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      WHERE IS PHYLLIS????
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Speaking of accountants.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:09 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15357
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03439
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:06:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32290@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:21:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12357025 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:26:51 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0Qpl10784 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:26:51 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws197-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.197]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S0QmQ27558
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:26:48 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020627142324.NLMW29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BAD45.A7F5E01B@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:26:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lisa's Taxes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lisa Alfieri wrote:

> Although I'm still not happy about my bill I did learn
> from the experience and I guess, no I console myself with
> the thought that it's somehow been worth it.

That's also my attitude toward my paying that accountant last year.  I
learned from the experience that I know at least as much as accountants
know.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:11 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15358
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03412
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:04:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3225F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:19:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12356951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:24:45 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0Oil10640 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:24:44 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws197-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.197]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S0OgQ26845
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:24:42 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020627135943.4D0A37D99@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BACC7.F2B0366A@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:24:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Why a single-serving bottle, though? (I have a bottle-bin in my
> kitchen--I refill them with filtered water from my fridge.)

What's a bottle-bin, and what's filtered water from a fridge?  All of
this strikes me as quite <elaborate>.  I still don't understand what's
wrong with just sticking your mouth under the faucet and turning on the
faucet.  Somebody (Verdant, I think) said that some people don't like
the taste of tap water.  And yes, I know it varies.  I learned that very
early in life because water on the coast tasted famously weird.  I
wonder if it still does.  Anyway, who cares?  Getting used to
odd-tasting water isn't that hard.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:12 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15365
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03330
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 13:01:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32212@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:16:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12356824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:21:21 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0LLl10335 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:21:21 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws197-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.197]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S0LJQ25927
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:21:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206261925120.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D1A543C.8AFFC57E@maynor.net> <3D1B13B2.E3BF5CC9@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BABFD.5E86D9E7@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:21:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pilates etc.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> is, you really ought to pursue this. Do you know any lawyers in <memory
> lapse> where your mother lived? Huntsville?

Heavens no.  Why would I know any lawyers there?  My RRB&SIL would know
all of them, of course.  Or at least all of them who are <successful>.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:13 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15369
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03287
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 12:58:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E321D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:13:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12356688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:18:59 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0Ixl09978 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:18:59 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws197-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.197]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S0IuQ25339
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:18:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020626172406.00b51e60@mail.panax.com>
            <3D1B087D.4E218D56@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BAB6E.CC45E848@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:18:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Yahoo! News Story - Pledge Ruled Unconstitutional
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:
>
> "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:
> >
> > The day I stopped saying the pledge was the day that phrase was inserted.
> >
> Moi aussi. Just can't bring myself to say it. This morning on CNN they
> were playing messages from the answering machine of the man who brought
> the suit. It was grand to hear all of the Christians' expletives and
> even a death threat from one of them.

I do think that trying to delete that phrase now is kind of silly,
considering that our coins say "in God we trust," etc. etc.  But what
I'll never understand is why the phrase was added in the first place.
It struck me as ridiculous then, and I have not changed my view of it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:14 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15375
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03213
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 12:54:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32186@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:09:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12356344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:15:11 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S05Bl09032 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:05:11 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5S05AOI021193 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:05:10 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206272004450.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:05:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BA773.7DDE396A@maynor.net>

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>
>I'm not the you being asked, but my answer is that single-serving water
>is served from the faucet into a glass, or if one doesn't want to deal
>with the washing-of-the-glass problem, it can be served straight from
>the faucet to the mouth.  That strikes me as the most environmentally
>helpful way to drink water.

You will be right at home at my barn, Natalie.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:14 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15372
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03253
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 12:56:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E321B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:11:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12356650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:17:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0H9l09888 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:17:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws197-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.197]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S0H7Q24854
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:17:07 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D1B02F9.869EC1B2@ithaca.edu> <3D1ACEB4.32250.AD0A6@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BAB00.F26290CC@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:17:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:

> This brings back memories of Cortland, NY in the late 50s.  Bike
> decorating for the 4th of July parade was a very important event.

Bike decorating is <big> in the Starkville July 4 thing.  (For those of
you Goatroasters who wonder why you missed the decorated bikes when
going to the fireworks that night, it was because the bike parade is
early in the day -- during the time we were chomping down on bbq and
watching Norman and others playing with his balls.)

> The one I remember in particular was the summer between 5th and
> 6th grades.  It was that year that the 49th star was added to the flag
> and we all took that very seriously as a theme.  By the next summer
> I was living somewhere else and nobody cared about the 50th star.

By the time those two stars were added, I had become jaded and
unnoticing.  Probably because of that messing with the Pledge of
Allegiance that had occurred earlier.  That subject arose at lunch
today, and I wasn't the only one who remembers finding the addition of
those words annoying.  One person today said that it threw off the whole
rhythm of the thing.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:15 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15381
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03166
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 12:52:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32150@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:07:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12356531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:12:31 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0CVl09505 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:12:31 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws197-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.197]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S0CSQ23510
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:12:29 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206271807270.11742-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BA9EA.EAD63907@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:12:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: civic duty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> Yet I would do the same thing again.

And how much traveling between states did that require?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:17 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15385
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03143
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 12:50:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32125@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:05:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12356470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:10:48 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S0Aml09363 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:10:48 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws197-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.197]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S0AjQ22968
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:10:45 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020627132304.00a834a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BA982.6FBE740@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:10:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: My kitchen
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> Peace on you.

Welcome back, BB!  You were sorely missed.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:17 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15387
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03125
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 12:49:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32119@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:04:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12356141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:10:00 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S000l08530 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:00:00 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5RNxxOI019494;
          Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:59:59 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206271953380.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:59:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      drips
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Well, it's not rally a DRIP, but it's like one. ShareBuilder (at
ShareBuilder.com) allows purchase of stocks and other financial entities
with small monthly contributions. I have just opened an account and given
instructions for my first purchase. It's a good deal. A single purchase
(and it can be recurring on a monthly or weekly basis) is only $4. Period.

I recall (from discussion here) that calculating basis is a nuisance - I
will keep very careful records (I have never DRIPed before.) Actually,
they will be online, so it should be easy. I think there are fantastic
bargains on stocks right now. If I have a job after midnight Sunday, I may
make another purchase.

Who knows? There may not be a Great State of TN after midnight
Sunday. Will I then revert to being a Texan in practice as well as spirit?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:19 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15395
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03062
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 12:45:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BA474@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:05:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12356348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:05:24 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S05Ol09044 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:05:24 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020628000514.ECSN29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 00:05:14 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGCEEEFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:07:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020627015520.1F2077CE1@yellow.rahul.net>

> I don't use them near the sink. I use them near the fridge and the
> island in the middle of my kitchen. Occasionally near the stove.

You mean that's not all the same in your kitchen? Wow.

I have the plastic under-the-cabinet kind. I've tried to use the
post-and-dowel kind and only succeed in pulling the damn thing onto the
floor, time and time again.

Now for the more important question: Which way do you hang your paper
towels? I hang mine so that they unroll from the top. I grew up with them
unrolling from the bottom and hated it because I'd always pull the roll off
the holder.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:22 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15405
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03016
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 12:42:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32088@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:58:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12355951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:03:15 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5RNrEl08091 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:53:14 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5RNrDOI017275;
          Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:53:14 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206271950180.28795-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:53:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I can barely walk now - this is a real nuisance - I have been studying the
Merck manual and I now think that I have bursitis. Does anyone have
experience of this? Fortunately, there appears to be a solution - an
injection of corticosteroid.

Also, I have no vehicle - my van is still at the air-conditioning place.

I don't know why I did not just buy a new car today!

Bethany, imprisoned in the Old City

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:23 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15401
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03000
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 12:41:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E32065@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:56:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12356219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 20:02:01 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5S021l08763 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:02:01 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws181-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.181]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5S01wQ20398
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:01:58 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0206262320090.75506-100000@idiom.com>
            <a05010406b940e66d5e05@[192.168.1.100]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BA773.7DDE396A@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:01:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Janet Hardy wrote:

> What's the difference, in your eyes, between
> single-serving water and single-serving soft drinks?

I'm not the you being asked, but my answer is that single-serving water
is served from the faucet into a glass, or if one doesn't want to deal
with the washing-of-the-glass problem, it can be served straight from
the faucet to the mouth.  That strikes me as the most environmentally
helpful way to drink water.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:25 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15414
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02903
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 12:35:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E31FDB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:50:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12356044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 19:55:54 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5RNtsl08284 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:55:54 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws181-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.181]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5RNtqQ18727
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:55:52 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020627150352.53E4D7E59@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BA605.F8BA4E7@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:55:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > > I am shocked that you are such a treekiller, Natalie.
> >
> > Why?  Timber is a fairly big industry in this part of the state, and I
> > know enough about it to know that the trees have to be cut every X
> > number of years.  How is that different from yanking off those cotton
> > bolls to make dishcloths?
>
> I'm fairly certain that dishcloths are usable more times than paper
> towels.

That's not really an answer.  Those trees have to be cut down regardless
of whether anybody needs them.  My question is what's wrong with needing
them?  Who is being harmed?

> > Not to mention the environmental effects of
> > washing, especially if using a machine.
>
> I use a frontloader.

?  What does where you load have to do with anything?

> > I don't wash paper towels.  I
> > use one for however long it seems reasonably sanitary and then throw it
> > away.  (How long I use one depends on the tasks involved.  If it's an
> > extremely nasty task, I might use one just one time, but that's very
> > rare.  And I usually recycle them downward in nastiness -- like one I've
> > used for the dog-bowl cleaning for several days might end up being used
> > for toilet cleaning that weekend.)
>
> I find this entirely revolting. I'm sorry I read that paragraph.

Why?  What's revolting about it?  Are you saying that you use a
dishcloth only one time before washing it?  I find that quite
<extravagant>.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:26 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15412
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02920
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 12:36:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E31FE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:51:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12356059 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 19:56:32 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5RNuVl08326 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:56:31 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws181-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.181]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5RNuSQ18822
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:56:29 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020627152538.153527E86@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BA629.99C6942A@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:56:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > Towels on towel holders do not get soaked when the counter does.
>
> Yes! I remember this.

Why would a counter get soaked?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:35 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15436
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02790
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 12:27:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E31F31@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:43:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12355793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 19:48:13 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5RNmDl07744 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:48:13 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws181-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.181]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5RNmAQ16699
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:48:10 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:48:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> > I have only a few bank statements.  Most are missing.
>
> Ask the bank for copies, for heaven's sake. You are going to need them
> in any case when it comes to doing your mother's taxes next year--i.e.,
> deductible expenses.

So one can just call an out-of-town bank and ask for somebody's bank
statements?  Like if you wanted copies of my bank statements, you could
call my bank and they'd send them to you?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:30 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15415
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02843
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 12:31:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E31F7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:47:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12355901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 19:52:12 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5RNqCl08029 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:52:12 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws181-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.181]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5RNq7Q17723
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:52:08 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020627143756.301987E4E@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BA524.3EBF46F1@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:52:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > I love families who communicate with each other.
>
> I think that's an unfair snipe. Speaking as one who has been through
> family emergencies with sibs in different cities, even when you're
> trying, it's difficult to keep everyone up to speed. (And we all know
> that the RRB and RRSIL don't try too hard.)

An unfair snipe at whom?  It struck me as on target.  It would certainly
have made my life easier if my RRSIL had told me that she was doing
nothing and had turned everything over to the sitters.  I had no reason
to assume it since it strikes me as ridiculous and irresponsible.  Well,
ok, so maybe I should've guessed that somebody with such a <busy>
(non-employed, mind you) life wouldn't have time to deal personally with
anything.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:33 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15426
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02768
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 12:26:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BA377@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:46:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12355742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 19:46:47 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5RNkll07610 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:46:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws181-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.181]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5RNkfQ16259
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:46:44 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <16e.fb3cb35.2a4c5d00@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1BA3DB.AD3433C0@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:46:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Evelyn Duncan wrote:

> <<
> Do you also have no qualms about buying those single serving bottled
> waters?
> >>
>
> None whatsoever.  It's necessary to have them here in Tulsa during
> the summer if you're travelling by bus or walking.  I reuse the bottles.

I said earlier that I'd never seen the point of bottled water, but what
Evelyn wrote reminds me of two things.  One is that I have indeed bought
bottled water  in Europe before getting on a train for a long trip.
Another is that I would've killed for liquid of any kind one hot day
when I was walking many, many miles in Bangkok and got so dehydrated
that I really did think I might die.  Finally I found a kiosk selling
liquid of some kind.  Don't remember what now.  What it was didn't
matter as long as it was liquid.  I also don't remember how I managed to
negotiate the buying of it since there's no way I could've uttered
anything because my mouth was unopenable.  It was sealed up with
dryness.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:00:33 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15429
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:00:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02783
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 22 May 1958 12:27:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E31F29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:42:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12355781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27
          Jun 2002 19:47:49 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5RNlnl07709 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:47:49 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO00004B;
          27 Jun 02 19:47:32 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 27 Jun 02
          19:47:20 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG00004A; 27 Jun 02 19:47:19 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <20020626103756.A42546@pobox.com>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D1B6BC6.31169.68F7AAD9@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:47:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: technical IMFTATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a04310109b93fb8fbcac0@[192.168.1.1]>

On Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 11:33, Janet Hardy wrote:

> OK, so I write this quarterly-or-thereabouts letter regarding new
> books and other news, which gets e-mailed to everybody who's asked to
> be on the Greenery mailing list.
>
> The problem is, the list is stored on Patrick's computer, so right
> now, the letter -- which is written by me -- is showing up with
> Patrick's e-mail address on the header.
>
> Is there a way to create an artificial header that says something like
> "Janet Hardy, president, Greenery Press" instead of
> "phughes@greenerypress.com"? I'm sure there must be, since spammers do
> it all the time, but I have no idea how to start.

You could do worse than to look at the Mercury mail system
(http://www.pmail.com). Mercury has a mailing list feature that will
doubtless do all you want, and it's free*.

Tony H.

* That's "free as in beer", not "free as in speech". But the author's
heart's in the right place, I think.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:35:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15598
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:35:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E372C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:50:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12415107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 14:55:40 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SIted05786 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:55:40 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc58 ([204.127.198.47]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020628185534.VJZH9178.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:55:34 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc58; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:55:33 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020628185534.VJZH9178.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:55:33 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Yahoo! News Story - Pledge Ruled Unconstitutional
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I do think that trying to delete that phrase now is kind
of >silly, considering that our coins say "in God we
trust," >etc. etc.  But what I'll never understand is why
the phrase >was added in the first place. It struck me as
ridiculous >then, and I have not changed my view of it.

There was never a time in my life where "under God" was
not a part of the Pledge.

There was a man on CNN yesterday who brought up the issue
of our currency being marked in God We Trust. I don't
know of anyone who's refused to us our money or has even
gone to court to get it changed (which of course doesn't
mean it hasn't happened).

The man's quote prompted me to consider the situation and
what would be the right thing to do. I have no idea what
the answer is.

My experience with the Pledge of Allegiance seems is one
of conflict. For nearly as long as I can remember there's
always been an issue about reciting in school.

At one point during my grammar school days the teacher
told us we didn't have to say the pledge if our parents
didn't want us to. Although I wasn't opposed to saying
it, I mentioned this to my mom who made me feel guilty
for even bringing this up.

People who didn't want to say the Pledge didn't believe
in God. People who don't believe in God don't go to
heaven. For a child under 10, this was a scary proposition.

It was especially scary to see Marcus Pirus, who I really
liked, not saying it because I wanted him to be able to
come to heaven with me one day. He was one of my kick
ball buddies. The idea of not having him on my team made
me sad.

A few years later I started to become skeptical of the
whole thing. It reminded me of the prayers we said in
church. I was beginning to realize I had no idea what I
was saying and started to not like the prayers because
they made me feel uncomfortable. I didn't know what the
words meant and was afraid I was saying something I
wouldn't be able to stand up to. At the time meant this
something huge and ugly like, I'd die some terrible death
and go to hell.

Eventually my school went to moments of silence. By this
point the pressure was off. I'd also temporarily found
God (and a dictionary no doubt) so my worries were few.

By the time I graduated high school I think even moment
of silence was gone because it "implied" prayer and that
was of course could not be done.

I'm not sure whether it's better or worse to have kid
reciting the Pledge in school. I am however of the
opinion that ruling it unconstitutional is stupid.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:42:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15636
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 08:42:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BE980@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:02:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12415484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 15:02:31 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SJ2Vd06569 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:02:31 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SJ2Rtr007041 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:02:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020628120557.00a25100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:06:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Yahoo! News Story - Pledge Ruled Unconstitutional
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628185534.VJZH9178.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58>

I'm getting rid of my money as fast as I can!

Betty

At 06:55 PM 6/28/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> >I do think that trying to delete that phrase now is kind
>of >silly, considering that our coins say "in God we
>trust," >etc. etc.  But what I'll never understand is why
>the phrase >was added in the first place. It struck me as
>ridiculous >then, and I have not changed my view of it.
>
>There was never a time in my life where "under God" was
>not a part of the Pledge.
>
>There was a man on CNN yesterday who brought up the issue
>of our currency being marked in God We Trust. I don't
>know of anyone who's refused to us our money or has even
>gone to court to get it changed (which of course doesn't
>mean it hasn't happened).

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:07:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15761
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 09:07:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E37751@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:21:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12417434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 15:26:57 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SJQvd10708 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:26:57 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust124.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.126]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004867563@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 15:26:55 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020628185534.VJZH9178.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1CB8DA.4B700125@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:28:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Yahoo! News Story - Pledge Ruled Unconstitutional
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lisa Alfieri wrote:
>
> I'm not sure whether it's better or worse to have kid
> reciting the Pledge in school. I am however of the
> opinion that ruling it unconstitutional is stupid.

The pledge was not ruled to be unconstitutional--only "under God." The
pledge of allegiance was never recited in schools until after Pearl
Harbor, when it became part of the war effort, so to speak.

All of the politicians, including the president, who are mouthing off
about "God" being in the Constution and Bill of Rights are irking me.
The word does not appear anywhere, and I am astonished that they are not
challenged by reporters and TV interviewers.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:28:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15818
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 09:28:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E37A8A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:43:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12419198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 15:48:37 -0400
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SJmbd14554 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:48:37 -0400
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu
          (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id
          <0.03E37A89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:43:23 -0400
Message-ID:  <200206281948.g5SJmbd14554@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:48:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:38:25 -0700, Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
>I thought Russell Crowe's performance was superb, but that the
>movie's attitude toward mental illness was cavalier to the point of
>irresponsibility.

I agree--that really surprised me, that they suggested that you could talk
yourself out of schizophrenia if you had a strong enough will.

>>And I don't care whether it never happened or not, I thought the bar
>>scene where he comes up with his Equilibrium was brilliant.
>
>Didn't happen, but you're right, it was a nice scene.

It really made the point of what he did--simplistic, yes, but clear and
understandable.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:34:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15849
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 09:34:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BEE0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:54:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12419618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 15:54:43 -0400
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SJshd15540 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:54:43 -0400
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu
          (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id
          <0.03E37B63@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:49:30 -0400
Message-ID:  <200206281954.g5SJshd15540@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:54:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      lipstick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Well, I'm very impressed with this stuff, Janet. I didn't buy Brazen Raisin
because THEY WERE OUT OF IT!!! I bought some papaya color, tried it on my
hand (to make sure it didn't orange-up on me) and it's still there over an
hour later, after rinsing my hands with water twice, rubbing up against
things, etc.

Thanks for the recommendation! Now to go put it on my lips.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:36:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15863
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 09:36:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BEE33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:56:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12419731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 15:56:41 -0400
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SJufd15796 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:56:41 -0400
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu
          (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id
          <0.03E37B97@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:51:27 -0400
Message-ID:  <200206281956.g5SJufd15796@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:56:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:39:28 -0500, Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM> wrote:
>The studios pay good money for the right to edit and alter the story. The
>author would in my view have no basis for being ticked. Nash himself seems
>quite happy with the movie.

He would be, it's more pleasant than the reality.

>There were similar attacks (though not on the same scale) about Ron Howard's
>Apollo 13 movie.

Sometimes I wonder about little Opie and what he's turned into.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:39:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15867
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 09:39:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BEE67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:58:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12419876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 15:58:54 -0400
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SJwsd16139 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:58:54 -0400
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu
          (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id
          <0.03E37BD3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:53:40 -0400
Message-ID:  <200206281958.g5SJwsd16139@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:58:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:36:28 -0700, Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
>- the fact that he *did* use antipsychotic drugs to help recover from
>his illness, although the intellectual exercise portrayed in the
>movie did help. This was the part that angered me the most, since I
>felt it had the potential to encourage schizophrenics to go off their
>meds

Yes, I agree that this was really serious--though at the end he did say he
was on drugs.

>Both sons are interviewed in the book. The out-of-wedlock one sounds
>a bit troubled, the one from the marriage sounds like he has his act
>together pretty well; he's a mathematician himself, I believe, and is
>also troubled by schizophrenia.

Thanks.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:41:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15882
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 09:41:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BEEA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:01:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12420089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 16:01:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SK1Hd16513 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:01:17 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C057F8079; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:01:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628200116.C057F8079@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:01:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a04310101b9424ca17f43@[192.168.1.1]> from Janet Hardy at "Jun
              28, 2002 10:36:28 am"

Janet Hardy said:
> - the nature of his delusions, which was much more chaotic and less
> narrative than shown in the movie -- the usual "Emperor of
> Antarctica" kind of thing

Did it talk about his roommate--I forget his name, but he was really
great. I can't imagine having to distance someone who was such a
perfect friend.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:49:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15910
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 09:49:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E37D2B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:04:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12420486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 16:09:14 -0400
Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SK9Ed17552 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:09:14 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.1] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYF0073IMNCSB@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:09:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
References: <200206281954.g5SJshd15540@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Message-ID:  <a04310100b942733424cd@[192.168.1.1]>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:10:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: lipstick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <200206281954.g5SJshd15540@listserv.cc.uga.edu>

>Well, I'm very impressed with this stuff, Janet. I didn't buy Brazen Raisin
>because THEY WERE OUT OF IT!!! I bought some papaya color, tried it on my
>hand (to make sure it didn't orange-up on me) and it's still there over an
>hour later, after rinsing my hands with water twice, rubbing up against
>things, etc.
>
>Thanks for the recommendation! Now to go put it on my lips.

Welcome to the new, exciting world of semipermanent papaya lips.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:50:41 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15915
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 09:50:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27440
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:56:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BEF59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:10:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12420552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 16:10:07 -0400
Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SKA7d17681 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:10:07 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.1] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYF0075LMOUQC@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:10:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
References: <20020628200116.C057F8079@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <a04310101b942736b31b1@[192.168.1.1]>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:11:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628200116.C057F8079@yellow.rahul.net>

>Janet Hardy said:
>>  - the nature of his delusions, which was much more chaotic and less
>>  narrative than shown in the movie -- the usual "Emperor of
>>  Antarctica" kind of thing
>
>Did it talk about his roommate--I forget his name, but he was really
>great. I can't imagine having to distance someone who was such a
>perfect friend.

No. All such characters in the movie were the inventions of the screenwriter.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:52:57 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15925
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 09:52:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BEFA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:12:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12420859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 16:12:39 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SKCdd18407 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:12:39 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc56 ([204.127.198.45]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020628201234.UYPX6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:12:34 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc56; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:12:31 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020628201234.UYPX6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:12:31 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: univ. shutdown now probable
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>So what did you do when studying for exams?  I see
nothing ><unfair> about my statement.  I just don't
understand what >it means for a student who has kept up
during the semester.  >Like if you have learned whatever
it is you're supposed to >have learned in the course,
wouldn't you have learned it?  >If you have, then what
does studying for the exam mean? >Wouldn't you already
know what you needed to know?

My favorite class was an intro to interpersonal
communications. Every class I went to I participated. I
did all my written assignments and tried to keep up with
the required reading (not too hard a task as I found it
interesting).

The instructor and I got along fantastically. We enjoyed
some sort of connection during the class. She called on
me often and wrote nice, encouraging notes on my papers
which always garnered an A.

When the first exam came up I figured there was no way I
needed to study. I knew this stuff, it was common sense
to me.

I bombed on the exam. She wanted definitions of terms and
couldn't come up with them. She wanted comparisons of
personality types and I couldn't come up with those
either. This was all stuff I'd read about and discussed
in class but, I hadn't memorized anything and was taken
completely by surprise.

The instructor was surprised too and noted on my exam
that I should try studying for the next one. I don't
remember my grade in the class. I think it was a B+ or
something but it wasn't an A.

A similar thing happened in a poli sci class. The course
was a 400 level class called The American Presidency. I
took this in the second semester of my senior year. The
first day of class was the day Clinton was sworn in for
his first term.

My rapport with the Prof. was great, we agreed in many
areas, I was interested in what she had to say and
followed up by reading what she told us to read. I
studies for the first test and aced it.

I'd done so well on the first exam I figured I didn't
really need to study for the second. I didn't do well at
all on the second. This put a lot of pressure on me to
ace the final in order to get a good grade. I must have
pulled it off as I did graduate that year.

What do I consider studying? Occasionally it meant trying
to catch up on reading or notes I didn't do or take. For
the most part it meant reviewing what I already had,
trying to memorize things I didn't really understand but
knew I'd be asked about and refreshing my memory on
points we'd covered earlier in the course.

Last year I took a programming course one night a week. I
studied for the two exams I we had. Studying once again
meant memorizing definitions, symbols and short snipits
of code I knew would be major points on the test. It was
necessary despite the fact I took meticulous notes in
class and did all my assignments, which sometimes took me
a couple days to write and debug.

As an undergraduate I took 6 courses a semester for much
of the time I was there. On top of that I worked and
socialized. There is no way I could be prepared for any
exam without spending significant time the night before,
reviewing the material.

My adult life consists of work, socializing and
exercising. Taking just one course was a challenge (made
me wonder how I ever survived college). Without setting
aside time to read and digest the course material there
was no way I could keep everything I took in during the
course of a day straight.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:54:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15932
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 09:54:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BEFD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:13:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12420981 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 16:13:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SKDqd18720 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:13:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 00739801C; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:13:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628201351.00739801C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:13:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a04310101b942736b31b1@[192.168.1.1]> from Janet Hardy at "Jun
              28, 2002  1:11:52 pm"

Janet Hardy said:
> >Janet Hardy said:
> >>  - the nature of his delusions, which was much more chaotic and less
> >>  narrative than shown in the movie -- the usual "Emperor of
> >>  Antarctica" kind of thing
> >
> >Did it talk about his roommate--I forget his name, but he was really
> >great. I can't imagine having to distance someone who was such a
> >perfect friend.
>
> No. All such characters in the movie were the inventions of the screenwriter.

Oh. I knew Parcher was. Duh. (Though I thought Ed Harris was terrific.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:59:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15945
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 09:59:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E37E55@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:14:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12421258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 16:19:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SKJWd19416 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:19:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E83E88071; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:19:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628201931.E83E88071@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:19:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: lipstick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a04310100b942733424cd@[192.168.1.1]> from Janet Hardy at "Jun
              28, 2002  1:10:59 pm"

Janet Hardy said:
> >Well, I'm very impressed with this stuff, Janet. I didn't buy Brazen Raisin
> >because THEY WERE OUT OF IT!!! I bought some papaya color, tried it on my
> >hand (to make sure it didn't orange-up on me) and it's still there over an
> >hour later, after rinsing my hands with water twice, rubbing up against
> >things, etc.
> >
> >Thanks for the recommendation! Now to go put it on my lips.
>
> Welcome to the new, exciting world of semipermanent papaya lips.

:)

The color is My Papaya. It's both lighter and more pinky than Brazen
Raisin--essentially flesh-colored. And it feels good on my lips.

Gosh, why couldn't they have invented this 40 years ago!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:59:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15951
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 09:59:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E37E59@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:14:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12421267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 16:19:42 -0400
Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SKJgd19431 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:19:42 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.1] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYF005HQN4SKV@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:19:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
References: <20020628201351.00739801C@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <a04310103b9427577acb2@[192.168.1.1]>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:21:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628201351.00739801C@yellow.rahul.net>

>Janet Hardy said:
>>  >Janet Hardy said:
>>  >>  - the nature of his delusions, which was much more chaotic and less
>>  >>  narrative than shown in the movie -- the usual "Emperor of
>>  >>  Antarctica" kind of thing
>>  >
>>  >Did it talk about his roommate--I forget his name, but he was really
>>  >great. I can't imagine having to distance someone who was such a
>>  >perfect friend.
>>
>>  No. All such characters in the movie were the inventions of the
>>screenwriter.
>
>Oh. I knew Parcher was. Duh. (Though I thought Ed Harris was terrific.)

Actually, the code-breaking stuff came pretty close to several of his
actual delusions, much more so than the other stuff. But, at least as
the book presented it, it wasn't anywhere near that orderly and
linear. Still, who knows how it looked from the inside?

Ed Harris *was* terrific. Although I still have trouble looking at
him and not seeing John Glenn.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 10:01:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15963
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 10:01:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E37E69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:15:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12421317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 16:21:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SKL4d19632 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:21:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8ECE880B0; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:21:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628202103.8ECE880B0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:21:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a04310103b9427577acb2@[192.168.1.1]> from Janet Hardy at "Jun
              28, 2002  1:21:26 pm"

Janet Hardy said:
> Ed Harris *was* terrific. Although I still have trouble looking at
> him and not seeing John Glenn.

Yes--but this went a long way to dispelling that for me. He was very
Dick Tracy-like--much more than Warren Beatty.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 10:03:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15975
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 10:03:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E37EAF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:18:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12421519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 16:23:19 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SKNJd19952 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:23:19 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc55 ([204.127.198.44]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020628202311.XLJK15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:23:11 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc55; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:23:10 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020628202311.XLJK15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:23:10 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I hang everything so that it unrolls from the top.  Next
>question:  Do you wad the toilet paper for use or fold
it >into a neat little square?
>    --bonniev

wad.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 10:03:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15983
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 10:03:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E37EB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:18:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12420985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 16:23:53 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SKDrd18723 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:13:53 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SKDqOI020290 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:13:52 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206281611530.9851-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:13:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a04310101b942736b31b1@[192.168.1.1]>

I shall probably be lying down with my right leg elevated.

OTOH, a friend suggests that acupuncture often relieves bursitis pain - I
may try that tomorrow.

Meanwhile, the air conditioning guys are makig progress - though I do not
yet have ac again.

And TN does not yet have a budget - we shut down Sunday at midnight if we
do not have one. Second term is supposed to start July 5.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 10:07:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15990
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 10:07:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E37F1A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:21:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12421862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 16:26:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SKQud20500 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:26:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 17B787EEF; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 13:26:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628202656.17B787EEF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:26:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206281611530.9851-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 28, 2002  4:13:52 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> OTOH, a friend suggests that acupuncture often relieves bursitis pain - I
> may try that tomorrow.

Yes, acupuncture is great for inflammation. Actually, my acupuncturist
gave me herbs that were fantastic for that kind of thing, too.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 10:16:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16024
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 10:16:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BF206@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:36:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12422438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 16:36:42 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f25.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.25]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SKafd22096 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:36:41 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          28 Jun 2002 13:36:36 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 20:36:36 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2002 20:36:36.0375 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[7F685A70:01C21EE3]
Message-ID:  <F25m9OciPXkmCJiLyNf00001494@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:36:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      that time of year
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

At this time of year I always think of Nancy Harwood, who is the only person
on the list who seems to be as bothered as I am by the coming of Christmas
in summer. Well, Nancy, if you're out there reading, it's almost time:
Hallmark puts out the Christmas ornaments a week from today!

Get your guilt bags out, have you done your shopping yet?

-aht


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 10:36:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16111
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 10:36:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E381B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:51:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12423940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 16:56:40 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SKudd24993 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:56:39 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g5SKud7Y154701; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:56:39 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 1 (Highest)
X-MSMail-Priority: High
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: High
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAaiEuSEKD0xGjEADAT0UC1MKAAAAQAAAAywR1fLb8w0G0swAtQL1bRQEAAAAA@isc.upenn.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:56:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Natalie - Phyllis info
Comments: To: maynor@ra.msstate.edu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Name  Phyllis C Petree

Title  Director

Classification  Employee

Dept  Internal Audit

E-Mail  ppetree@email.unc.edu
URL  http://www.unc.edu/~ppetree/
Telephone  919-962-7883

Campus Box  1050

Address  Hill Commercial Bldg


-------
Alec D. Plotkin
plotkina@isc.upenn.edu

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 10:37:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16115
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 10:37:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E381C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:51:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12423064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 16:56:57 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SKkvd23354 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:46:57 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SKkuOI000939 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:46:56 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206281646330.10958-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:46:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628202656.17B787EEF@yellow.rahul.net>

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>Yes, acupuncture is great for inflammation. Actually, my acupuncturist
>gave me herbs that were fantastic for that kind of thing, too.

I am delighted to hear that.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 10:52:18 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16165
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 10:52:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28291
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:57:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BF5A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:10:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12426074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 17:10:37 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SLAbd27588 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:10:37 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYF00M16PHOVU@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:10:37 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <40.1fe0aad7.2a4df66c@aol.com> <3D1C9EC9.830972B2@valstar.net>
Message-ID:  <3D1CD079.70503@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:09:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> dorism212@AOL.COM wrote:
>
>> Sad to say.
>>
>
> A sorry tale, indeed. I shall be here, at the computer alone, while
> everyone is out doing something else.
>
> Meanwhile, we now have nine squirrels (grey) and two (red) eating from
> the hanging finch feeder where they are not meant to go. I am not of the
> keep-squirrels-away-from-feeders school, though. THey are such fun to
> watch. The holes in the feeder are designed so that the finches' little
> heads and beaks can get it. Way to small for squirrel heads, so they
> reach in with their little hands and pull out bunches. A lot falls rom
> their greedy fingers onto the porch floor, where an accomplice usually
> waits.
>


        My email is coming in dribs and drabs. Yesterday, Ana and her
little gang dropped a couple of the peanutbutter cookies on
the Spike Michelle portico.  During our dinner, a squirrel
discovered the cookies and came up to feast.  Having a furry
critter *right there* was just too much for Brittany (I'm
dog sitting this week), who proceeded to nearly kill herself
leaping at the big window.  She's a tall, leggy bitch, and
the way she can spring up off her hind legs is startling.
Needless to say, she went to her crate until the squirrel
was done eating his snack.  That's an expensive window to
replace.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 10:56:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16175
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 10:56:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E384F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:10:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12426448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 17:15:59 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SLFxd28411 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:15:59 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SLFvtr028019 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:15:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020628141932.00ac2540@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:19:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: that time of year
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F25m9OciPXkmCJiLyNf00001494@hotmail.com>

At 03:36 PM 6/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>At this time of year I always think of Nancy Harwood, who is the only person
>on the list who seems to be as bothered as I am by the coming of Christmas
>in summer. Well, Nancy, if you're out there reading, it's almost time:
>Hallmark puts out the Christmas ornaments a week from today!
>
>Get your guilt bags out, have you done your shopping yet?

I thought Nancy always waited until December 23 and 24.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 10:57:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16184
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 10:57:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BF62C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:17:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12426499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 17:17:15 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f71.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.71]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SLHEd28552 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:17:14 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          28 Jun 2002 14:17:09 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 21:17:09 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2002 21:17:09.0361 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[29948E10:01C21EE9]
Message-ID:  <F71J0sca0ZkfzDskqC500001493@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:17:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: that time of year
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I thought Nancy always waited until December 23 and 24.

Maybe that's why it bugs her that Hallmark puts out the ornaments the day
after July 4. :-)

-a

_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 10:59:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16191
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 10:59:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3852C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:13:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12426622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 17:18:55 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SLItd28860 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:18:55 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 94AC37EA7; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 14:18:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628211854.94AC37EA7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:18:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206281646330.10958-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 28, 2002  4:46:56 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >Yes, acupuncture is great for inflammation. Actually, my acupuncturist
> >gave me herbs that were fantastic for that kind of thing, too.
>
> I am delighted to hear that.

I can't remember what they are called--I couldn't find them anywhere
else. Something like "Stasis in the House of Blood". They worked
better than any of the NSAIDs I tried, including Tylenol 3.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 11:01:12 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16200
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 11:01:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BF667@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:20:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12426705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 17:20:59 -0400
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SLKxd29149 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:20:59 -0400
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu
          (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id
          <0.03E38546@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:15:45 -0400
Message-ID:  <200206282120.g5SLKxd29149@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:20:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: that time of year
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:17:09 -0500, Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>I thought Nancy always waited until December 23 and 24.
>
>Maybe that's why it bugs her that Hallmark puts out the ornaments the day
>after July 4. :-)

I've always wondered who goes in those stores.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 11:10:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16232
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 11:10:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3862B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:25:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12427623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 17:30:36 -0400
Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.157]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5SLUad31270 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002
          17:30:36 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0304.dialsprint.net ([63.190.1.50]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17O3K3-0001bY-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri,
          28 Jun 2002 17:30:31 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020627181844.00a28580@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020627194709.00a9acb0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020628083413.00aa5810@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1CD580.C146B566@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:30:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> Are you home for the summer, Sly?

Yes, no travel plans this year.  Lisa and the kids will be here in about
a month and will be able to stay a week.  Pictures will be made
available as soon as possible.

I find it hard to believe, but Rachel took her first steps this week.
Her first birthday is August 4 and we WILL have a birthday celebration
at Grandma's House.

I'm also in awe of Zach' vocabulary and memory.  I told him I bought him
a special hammer so he could help "MiMi" when he gets here.  Last week
when he was talking on the phone to my sister who was here for the week,
he asked her, "Are you sleeping with my hammer?"   Once she understood
his southern accent and said "No", he said "OK, gotta go see the far and
hep."  (His daddy and Poppa were outside burning trash.)

I will be very happy to have them all here.

Austin and his daddy and mommy will be here for the 4th. He likes Mimi's
backyard and the sandpile.  He also likes to chase Keisha and bop her
with a balloon.  Keisha is very tolerant.

--
Sylvia Edwards
who has just bought new toys for Grandma's House...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 11:13:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16286
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 11:13:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3865C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:28:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12427803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 17:33:14 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SLXDd31725 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:33:13 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SLXBtr015654 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:33:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020628143434.00ac9b60@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:37:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: that time of year
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <200206282120.g5SLKxd29149@listserv.cc.uga.edu>

At 05:20 PM 6/28/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:17:09 -0500, Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >>I thought Nancy always waited until December 23 and 24.
> >
> >Maybe that's why it bugs her that Hallmark puts out the ornaments the day
> >after July 4. :-)
>
>I've always wondered who goes in those stores.

I stopped by a card shop at the mall just a bit ago and picked out two
cards.  I only had $4.00 cash on me and I had to put one card back!  She
quoted me $6 and change.  I thought she made a mistake and I said I only
had two cards.  Doris Smith's card is going to be late!  I had to take the
one for the party tonight.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 11:13:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16292
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 11:13:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BF75D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:33:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12427798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 17:33:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (daemon@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SLX9d31714 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:33:09 -0400
Received: (from maynor@localhost); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18);
          id g5SLX8O10695 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 28 Jun 2002
          16:33:08 -0500 (CDT)
Message-ID:  <200206282133.g5SLX8O10695@Ra.MsState.Edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 16:33:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Finally
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Finally we got permission to advertise for the temporary TESOL job.
Here's the ad.  If you know of anybody who might be interested, please
pass it along:

*********************************
Mississippi SU, Drawer E, Mississippi State, MS   39762

One-year replacement position beginning August 16, 2002, and ending May
15, 2003, as Visiting Assistant Professor in TESOL. Ph.D. in English or
linguistics with emphasis in TESOL required.  Ability to teach a course in
modern grammar/syntax is a must.  Salary will be competitive.  Mississippi
State University is a Carnegie I institution with approximately 15,000
students on the main campus.  To apply, please send a letter and a c.v. to
arrive by July 20, 2002. Review of applications will begin immediately and
will continue until the position is filled.  Mississippi State University
is an AA/EO employer.

Matthew Little, Head
*******************************

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 11:21:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16315
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 11:21:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BF7D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:41:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12428283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 17:41:40 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SLfed32730 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:41:40 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-218.panax.com
          [63.163.41.218]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5SLfej19223 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002
          17:41:40 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <40.1fe0aad7.2a4df66c@aol.com> <3D1C9EC9.830972B2@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020628174021.00a0a1a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:41:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1CD079.70503@swbell.net>

>        My email is coming in dribs and drabs.  ... ... ...
>Needless to say, she went to her crate until the squirrel
>was done eating his snack.  That's an expensive window to
>replace.        --Rita Rouvalis Chapman

What?? Brittany broke the window, the glass fell onto your hard drive, and
that's why you are getting email only in dribs and drabs??


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 11:25:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16353
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 11:25:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E38729@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:40:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12428496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 17:45:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SLjJd00770 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:45:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2C6507F88; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 14:45:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628214519.2C6507F88@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:45:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020628174021.00a0a1a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jun 28, 2002  5:41:33 pm"

I think you should all phone me on July 4th since I'm going to be
stuck at home waiting for Wordslers to show up.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 11:29:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16445
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 11:29:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BF849@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:48:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12428734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 17:48:52 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SLmqd01248 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:48:52 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-218.panax.com
          [63.163.41.218]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5SLmqj20720 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002
          17:48:52 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020628174021.00a0a1a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020628174826.00a151f0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:48:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628214519.2C6507F88@yellow.rahul.net>

>I think you should all phone me on July 4th since I'm going to be
>stuck at home waiting for Wordslers to show up.
>Karen

O.k.  Post a phone number and wait by the phone.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 11:31:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16508
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 11:31:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E387B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:45:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12428845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 17:50:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SLosd01524 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:50:54 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8D75F7FF1; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 14:50:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628215053.8D75F7FF1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:50:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020628174826.00a151f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jun 28, 2002  5:48:45 pm"

bonniev said:
> >I think you should all phone me on July 4th since I'm going to be
> >stuck at home waiting for Wordslers to show up.
> >Karen
>
> O.k.  Post a phone number and wait by the phone.

512-977-8817.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 11:32:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16520
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 11:32:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E387EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:47:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12428947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 17:52:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SLqmd01751 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:52:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2E60E801C; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 14:52:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628215248.2E60E801C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:52:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Lipstick Update
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The lipstick on my hand still hasn't smeared--nor has that on my
lips.

Too bad my Mom died too soon--she would have wanted to go with
reddened lips.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 11:34:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16571
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 11:34:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3880D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:48:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12429011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 17:54:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SLs1d01899 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:54:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F2EB18047; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 14:54:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628215400.F2EB18047@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:54:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1BDFF9.3AE5CE3F@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jun 28,
              2002  0: 3: 5 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I poked through Netscape help, but I can't find anything. I need to
> > send e-mail to My Newest Friend and then go to sleep.
>
> Is that really your Newest? Not Newer? Because I think of New, Newer,
> and Newest, so that Newest would be your third friend.

I meant 'latest', as in Most Recent. But that's all too many letters.

I have had more than 3 friends.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 11:58:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17842
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 11:58:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E38A02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:12:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12430217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 18:17:59 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SM7xd04156 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:07:59 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SM7wOI031720;
          Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:07:58 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206281804480.10958-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:07:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Info re Possible UT Shutdown
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

excerpts from the latest briefing:

-----
The State Legislature is working on a bill that will stipulate essential
services. Only those employees that are officially designated as essential
will be covered by liability insurance. Therefore, all others are
encouraged to stay off campus. UT email and online services are essential
and will be available to those with home access.  We do not know whether
teaching will be considered an essential service ...

...

If planning to travel on UT business after June 30th, and a shutdown is in
effect, then check with your supervisor to determine the decisions made by
the legislature and the university. The current understanding from
information available this afternoon, is that any trip scheduled to begin
during a shut down should be cancelled or rescheduled to occur before or
-----

So will I be going to Finland?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 11:58:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17885
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 11:58:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BFA1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:18:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12430611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 18:18:42 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SMIfd05159 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:18:41 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SMIctr025672 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:18:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020628174826.00a151f0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:22:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020628215053.8D75F7FF1@yellow.rahul.net>

At 02:50 PM 6/28/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>bonniev said:
> > >I think you should all phone me on July 4th since I'm going to be
> > >stuck at home waiting for Wordslers to show up.
> > >Karen
> >
> > O.k.  Post a phone number and wait by the phone.
>
>512-977-8817.

I have the shirt design.  You can see it here.

http://home.attbi.com/~lgclark/batfest.htm

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 12:07:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18343
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 12:07:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E38A7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:22:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12430900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 18:27:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SMREd05949 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:27:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A6DB47F56; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 15:27:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020628222713.A6DB47F56@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:27:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jun 28, 2002  3:22:35 pm"

Betty said:
> At 02:50 PM 6/28/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >bonniev said:
> > > >I think you should all phone me on July 4th since I'm going to be
> > > >stuck at home waiting for Wordslers to show up.
> > > >Karen
> > >
> > > O.k.  Post a phone number and wait by the phone.
> >
> >512-977-8817.
>
> I have the shirt design.  You can see it here.
>
> http://home.attbi.com/~lgclark/batfest.htm

I like it!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 12:15:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18781
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 12:15:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E38B4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:30:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12431300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 18:35:27 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SMZQd06915 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:35:26 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws69-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.69]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5SMZNQ26956
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:35:24 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020628083116.009f69b0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1CE479.81FC7DC8@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:34:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> One simple question:  Have you actually told your brother or your
> sister-in-law that this woman stole money from your mother's account for
> her own personal use?

Yes.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 12:16:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18836
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 12:16:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E38B61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:31:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12431342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 18:36:25 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SMaPd06979 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:36:25 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws69-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.69]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5SMaNQ27239
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:36:23 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <001601c21eac$f7d7fa10$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1CE4E4.6F863CA0@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:36:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: WHERE IS PHYLLIS????
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:

> Instead of bothering us, email her and let us know.

I do indeed apologize for not realizing that asking about a long-time
Wordsler is bothersome.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 12:16:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18846
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 12:16:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E38B69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:31:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12430887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 18:36:34 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SMQYd05881 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:26:34 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SMQWOI004636 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:26:33 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206281826140.10958-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:26:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Betty wrote:

>I have the shirt design.  You can see it here.
>
>http://home.attbi.com/~lgclark/batfest.htm

Cool!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 12:19:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19002
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 12:19:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E38B8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:34:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12431414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 18:39:34 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SMdYd07204 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:39:34 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws69-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.69]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5SMdVQ27886
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:39:31 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020627172608.A16587@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020627152558.E6A657E79@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020627173829.E16587@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D1BAEEA.2C25EC9A@maynor.net>
            <20020628091138.B18408@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D1C49F9.C2DFF7BF@maynor.net>
            <20020628152542.A19123@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1CE5A0.54B701B8@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:39:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pilates etc.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> I don't know your brother, but even if he laughed first, I bet he
> does know the right lawyer.

Who/what he knows isn't relevant.  His laughter wouldn't be jolly
laughter.  It would be critical laughter, followed by no useful
response.

> = Probably.  My RRSIL might need the embezzler for running errands or
> = something.  It reminds me in a way (though is not parallel with) of my
>
> I forget.  Give or take, just how much money is gone?

I don't know.  It could be anywhere from a few thousand dollars to far
more than that.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 12:21:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19080
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 12:21:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E38BAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:35:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12431462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 18:40:58 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SMewd07355 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:40:58 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws69-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.69]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5SMetQ28177
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:40:55 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <002401c21eb0$5fa0db50$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1CE5F4.351D73D@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:40:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Wonderful!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:

> Sorry I did not answer sooner, work and life has kept me busy. If I
> worked in a mall, it would be either a computer store, sports store(
> steph is correct) or possibly office supplies. I love all kinds of cool
> pens.

Hey, Alec -- instead of bothering us all, why didn't you simply reply
directly to Betty?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 12:23:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19182
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 12:23:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BFB26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:42:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12431505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 18:42:53 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SMgrd07492 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:42:53 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws69-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.69]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5SMgpQ28646
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:42:51 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206280022230.7140-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
            <3D1C785D.7C3EBB92@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1CE668.256A6474@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:42:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Thanks. And to Janet. I guess that Netscape is not a variety of Unix? I

Netscape is on your computer.  It's highly likely that Unix is on your
server.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 12:24:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19247
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 12:24:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E38BDF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:38:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12431523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 18:44:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SMi2d07563 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:44:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws69-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.69]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5SMi0Q28842
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:44:01 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206280022230.7140-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
            <3D1C484E.2190E075@maynor.net>
            <a0501041cb942263df93d@[192.168.1.100]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1CE6AD.6D17FEC5@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:43:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: autoresponder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Janet Hardy wrote:

>  The lists that
> don't have nomail seem to have some mechanism for simply dumping
> autoresponses; at least I've never seen them appear on-list, and I've
> never had any complaints from the list wranglers.

Unix's vacation program won't send the response to lists if you tell it
not to.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 12:34:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19812
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 12:34:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BFBAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:54:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12431836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 18:54:37 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SMsbd08278 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:54:37 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws69-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.69]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5SMsZQ01132
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:54:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:54:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> I hope you see to it that there is a very small balance in this account.

I have no control over that.

> Or, close it out and tell the  caretaker to present her bill to your
> brother.

I also have no way to close a bank account that has nothing to do with
me.

> Also, it would be a good idea for you to get a power of
> attorney for your mother. That would enable you to get financial
> documents and tend to things without bothering her.

I do have poa, afaik.  I had the physical copy of the one my parents had
done in Jackson, naming both me and my RRB.  They gave me the single
copy of it.  After they moved, I took it and gave it to my RRB since it
was the only physical copy.  Later he said that he'd had a new one made
by one of his lawyers in Hville.  I don't know why.  Maybe it's easier
if one is made by lawyers in the state somebody is living in.  My mother
is back in MS now, of course.  Anyway, I've never seen the current one,
but I think it names all three of us -- me, my RRB, and my RRSIL.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 12:46:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20447
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 12:46:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BFC34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 19:06:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12432243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 19:06:33 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SN6Xd09206 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 19:06:33 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws97-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.97]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5SN6UQ04269
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:06:30 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206281804480.10958-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1CEBF2.AD1F90A6@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:06:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Info re Possible UT Shutdown
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" quoted:

>  Only those employees that are officially designated as essential
> will be covered by liability insurance. Therefore, all others are
> encouraged to stay off campus.

I find this hilarious.  I didn't realize in my stay there that the UT
campus was such a dangerous place.  Nor have I ever known anybody
anywhere who has used liability insurance.

>  We do not know whether
> teaching will be considered an essential service ...

Now I see the parody.  I thought that first paragraph was for real.

> information available this afternoon, is that any trip scheduled to begin
> during a shut down should be cancelled or rescheduled to occur before or

> So will I be going to Finland?

Well, I'm going to Finland because my name is on the program and I've
bought the plane ticket.  None of that has anything to do with MSU,
except that its name will be listed beside mine in the program.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 12:49:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20586
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 12:49:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BFC4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 19:09:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12432356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 19:09:14 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SN9Ed09585 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 19:09:14 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws97-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.97]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5SN9BQ04912
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:09:12 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020627181844.00a28580@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020627194709.00a9acb0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D1C7929.9AB0C59B@pop.mindspring.com>
            <a0501041fb9422a42eaec@[192.168.1.100]>
            <3D1C7D7E.9B84E6A9@pop.mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1CEC94.F7258164@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:09:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: my knee
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sylvia Edwards wrote:

> who has knees that would really gross out Natalie

Why?  I can't remember ever having been grossed out by knees and am
having trouble trying to imagine gross knees.  Knees aren't gorgeous,
imho.  But they're just knees.  I don't think of them as gross or
ungross.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 12:53:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20812
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 12:53:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000BFC81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 19:13:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12432510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 19:13:32 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SNDVd10026 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 19:13:31 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws97-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.97]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5SNDTQ05650
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:13:29 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020628160603.D22CD7F88@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1CED96.28DE29DA@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:13:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Paper towel holders
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> It's optional, but the floor models often have them. I'm surprised
> that you haven't been to people's houses that have them. The people
> who came to my house for dinner the other day didn't have to be told
> how to work it.

I can't remember now exactly what it was that you described that I found
exotic.  It may well be that I've been in houses with such exotic
features on their refrigerators, but I've never had much reason to
notice.  I have gotten ice out of ice-maker refrigerators before, but
iirc you were talking about something even more exotic.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 12:57:30 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21006
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 12:57:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000BFCAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 19:17:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12432583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 19:17:18 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5SNHId10319 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 19:17:18 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws97-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.97]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5SNHGQ06630
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:17:16 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020628161135.D07F28092@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1CEE79.A929F08B@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:17:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > book, and found that the movie was an irresponsible and bowdlerized
> > tissue of lies, and got seriously pissed off.
>
> Can you talk more about this? What were the lies?

I wish I could remember whether things I've read were about the movie's
inaccuracies or both the book and the movie's inaccuracies -- these were
things I read longer ago than my memory now is able to bring up but not
long enough ago for my strong long-term memoery.   Whatever I've read
made the discrepancies sound fairly minor -- like it (whatever it was --
book? movie?) made it appear that his problems started in college when
in fact they'd started much earlier and various other things of that
kind.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 13:56:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22359
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 13:56:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BFF11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:15:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12434208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 20:15:51 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T0Fpd16211 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:15:51 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g5T0Fn017774 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 19:15:49 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206281911160.14158-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 19:15:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F1711uAPe9L4eFQ1FgP00000636@hotmail.com>

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Anne Toal wrote:

> Since wordslers typically get together on the 4th of July, what is everyone
> doing this year? Graham and I will be at a party celebrating the end of the
> reorg that my department just went through.

We'll be in some tiny dump of a motel near Mt. Lassen:

http://www.shastahome.com/lassen-volcanic/park.htm

Or rather we'll be in the Park a lot.  How much time we spend in the dump
depends on how good or bad it is.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 13:57:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22371
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 13:57:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E39252@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:12:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12434232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 20:17:25 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T0HPd16492 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:17:25 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T0AUb04981 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:10:30 -0400
Received: from TWILD ([131.128.2.36]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with
          ESMTP id g5T0Fkk29508 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun
          2002 20:15:46 -0400
X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.0 (Win32)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Message-ID:  <3093407393.1025295623@TWILD>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:20:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Terry Wild <twild@URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

I want one!!!    Betty, the fireflys are flashing!

Terry

--On Friday, June 28, 2002 3:22 PM -0700 Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
wrote:

> I have the shirt design.  You can see it here.
>
> http://home.attbi.com/~lgclark/batfest.htm
>
> Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 14:05:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22406
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 14:05:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E39277@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:19:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12434165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 20:25:01 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T0Evd15993 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:14:57 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5T0EuOI004010 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:14:56 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206282010590.3082-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:14:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net>

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I do have poa, afaik.  I had the physical copy of the one my parents had
>done in Jackson, naming both me and my RRB.  They gave me the single
>copy of it.  After they moved, I took it and gave it to my RRB since it
>was the only physical copy.  Later he said that he'd had a new one made
>by one of his lawyers in Hville.  I don't know why.  Maybe it's easier
>if one is made by lawyers in the state somebody is living in.  My mother
>is back in MS now, of course.  Anyway, I've never seen the current one,
>but I think it names all three of us -- me, my RRB, and my RRSIL.

IOW, you have no idea whether you have one. If you are not named in it
and/or you do not have it, you cannot use it.

You don't need your RRB or RRSIL to get one - all you need is your
mother's signature. Most of us would have a lawyer draw it up, of course.

It was very diffucult for me to get my mother to sign one before her
first surgery. I took her to the one lawyer in Knoxville that I thought
could get it done. It took a while. It is so important that I told her I
would under no circumstances take her to the hospital for her surgery if
I did not have one. And I would not have.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 14:07:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22418
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 14:07:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000BFF96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:27:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12434236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 20:27:30 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T0HUd16502 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:17:30 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5T0HTOI004534 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:17:29 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206282015040.3082-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:17:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Job Ad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <200206282129.g5SLTas09532@Ra.MsState.Edu>

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>One-year replacement position beginning August 16, 2002, and ending May
>15, 2003, as Visiting Assistant Professor in TESOL. Ph.D. in English or
>linguistics with emphasis in TESOL required.  Ability to teach a course in
>modern grammar/syntax is a must.  Salary will be competitive.  Mississippi
>State University is a Carnegie I institution with approximately 15,000
>students on the main campus.  To apply, please send a letter and a c.v. to
>arrive by July 20, 2002. Review of applications will begin immediately and
>will continue until the position is filled.  Mississippi State University
>is an AA/EO employer.

I am impressed. You have said that you will teach 3 courses Fall 2002
(all linguistics, I assume). And now your dept is advertising for
another Lx person - presumably to teach another 3 courses. We could not
fill 6 Lx courses in the English Dep't during one semester.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 14:24:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22470
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 14:24:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C0061@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:44:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12434985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 20:44:24 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T0iNd18508 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:44:23 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.27]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYFZCF00.3C6 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:43:27 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020628174826.00a151f0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1D02E0.427DF06F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:44:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> I have the shirt design.  You can see it here.
>
> http://home.attbi.com/~lgclark/batfest.htm

    I'll take two large, short sleeves, please.

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 14:43:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22531
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 14:43:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E393DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:58:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12435507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 21:03:24 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T13Od20279 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:03:24 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T0uTb06405 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:56:29 -0400
Received: from TWILD ([131.128.2.36]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with
          ESMTP id g5T12qk14461 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun
          2002 21:02:52 -0400
X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.0 (Win32)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Message-ID:  <3096250273.1025298466@TWILD>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:07:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Terry Wild <twild@URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On further look, shouldn't that be phatic drivel?

Terry - short-sleeve large please


--On Friday, June 28, 2002 3:22 PM -0700 Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
wrote:

> I have the shirt design.  You can see it here.
>
> http://home.attbi.com/~lgclark/batfest.htm
>
> Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 14:54:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22562
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 14:54:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E39430@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:08:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12435765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 21:13:46 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T1Dkd21215 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:13:46 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-155.panax.com
          [63.163.41.155]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5T1Dkj22559 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002
          21:13:46 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020628211214.00b74f90@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:13:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3096250273.1025298466@TWILD>

At 09:07 PM 6/28/2002 -0400, terry wrote:
>On further look, shouldn't that be phatic drivel?

No.  Drivel is drivel is drivel.  Phatic drivel is simply a subset.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 14:59:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22587
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 14:59:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C021D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:19:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12435912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 21:19:26 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T1JCd21737 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:19:12 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws165-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.165]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5T1JAQ03197
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:19:10 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <40.1fe0aad7.2a4df66c@aol.com> <3D1C9EC9.830972B2@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1D0ABF.562417C5@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:17:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> A sorry tale, indeed. I shall be here, at the computer alone, while
> everyone is out doing something else.

Not me.  Or at least not that I know of.  I haven't thought ahead as far
as July 4 yet, but I feel sure that I will do nothing different that
day.  Maybe I'll decide to go check out the decorated bicycles.  Or go
that night for the fireworks to remind me of GoatRoast -- when I was
separated from the other GoatRoasters.  This will be the first July 4
I've been home since pre-fests.  And I'm including Lenny's BBQ in my
fests.  (I've missed a couple of fests, but I wasn't at home while
missing them.)  I can't remember where I was or what I was doing on July
4 in the last year before list fests, which would've been '90.  I bet
that was when Dan and Joan still had July 4 parties before moving them
to Labor Day.  I bet that's where I was.  Probably I can find out by
looking back through my old purse calendars.

Meanwhile, it always feels odd to be doing things like writing e-mail
with Norton doing its thing at the same time.  But at least I always
think of Bonniemae now.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 14:59:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22591
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 14:59:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E39453@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:14:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12435952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 21:19:42 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T1Jfd21834 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:19:41 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws165-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.165]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5T1JdQ03312
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:19:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206281256340.19875-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1D0B28.525BB4B3@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:19:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tom Lee wrote:
>
>         I am at work, poring through code looking for the source of a

Did you tell us where you are now working?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 15:06:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22628
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 15:06:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C025B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:26:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12436064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 21:26:19 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T1QId22327 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:26:18 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws165-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.165]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5T1QGQ04603
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:26:16 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020628185534.VJZH9178.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1D0CB3.7BF6C003@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:26:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Yahoo! News Story - Pledge Ruled Unconstitutional
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lisa Alfieri wrote:

> It was especially scary to see Marcus Pirus, who I really
> liked, not saying it because I wanted him to be able to
> come to heaven with me one day. He was one of my kick
> ball buddies. The idea of not having him on my team made
> me sad.

This summarizes well one of the problems with saying that God things in
school are fine if they're optional.

> I'm not sure whether it's better or worse to have kid
> reciting the Pledge in school. I am however of the
> opinion that ruling it unconstitutional is stupid.

I assume by "it" you mean the "under God" insertion.  I don't think it
makes all that much sense to rule it unconstitutional now, without also
ruling zillions of other things unconstitional on the same grounds.  But
I do think it was stupid to add that phrase in the first place.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 15:11:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22645
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 15:11:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3948E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:26:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12436205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 21:31:17 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T1VHd22873 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:31:17 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws165-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.165]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5T1VAQ05742
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:31:10 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020628201234.UYPX6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1D0DDB.A4619D1C@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:31:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: univ. shutdown now probable
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lisa Alfieri wrote:

>  This was all stuff I'd read about and discussed
> in class but, I hadn't memorized anything and was taken
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> completely by surprise.

> What do I consider studying? Occasionally it meant trying
> to catch up on reading or notes I didn't do or take. For
> the most part it meant reviewing what I already had,
> trying to memorize things I didn't really understand but
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> knew I'd be asked about and refreshing my memory on
> points we'd covered earlier in the course.

> Last year I took a programming course one night a week. I
> studied for the two exams I we had. Studying once again
> meant memorizing definitions, symbols and short snipits
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Your comments here confirm what I said earlier -- especially the "trying
to memorize things I didn't really understand."

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 15:14:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22655
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 15:14:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E39499@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:28:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12436254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 21:33:48 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T1Xmd23048 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:33:48 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws165-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.165]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5T1XiQ06270
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:33:44 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <200206282120.g5SLKxd29149@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1D0E75.EC98E6CA@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:33:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: that time of year
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen wrote:

> >Maybe that's why it bugs her that Hallmark puts out the ornaments the day
> >after July 4. :-)
>
> I've always wondered who goes in those stores.

Hallmark stores?  I go in them if I need to buy a greeting card.  Or at
least I sometimes do.  Other times I find cards in the campus
bookstore.  But Hallmark has a bigger selection.  I also go into
Hallmark to buy things like party invitations when I have xmas parties.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 15:15:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22668
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 15:15:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E394AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:30:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12436317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 21:35:31 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T1ZUd23191 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:35:30 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws165-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.165]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5T1ZSQ06637
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:35:28 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020628143434.00ac9b60@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1D0EDD.6DEB5C6A@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:35:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: that time of year
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> had two cards.  Doris Smith's card is going to be late!  I had to take the
> one for the party tonight.

There's still plenty of time to buy and mail DorisS's card.  But I do
hate that we aren't going to do the usual fest phoning to Doris this
year.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 15:17:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22678
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 15:17:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E394C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:31:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12436389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 21:37:07 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T1b6d23343 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:37:06 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws165-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.165]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5T1b4Q06949
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:37:04 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020628174826.00a151f0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1D0F3D.4149FB0F@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:37:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> http://home.attbi.com/~lgclark/batfest.htm

Beautiful!!  I want one!

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 15:19:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22684
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 15:19:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E394DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:34:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12436466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 21:39:18 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T1dId23568 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:39:18 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws165-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.165]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5T1dGQ07300
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:39:16 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206282010590.3082-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1D0FC1.3B80E5DD@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:39:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> You don't need your RRB or RRSIL to get one - all you need is your
> mother's signature. Most of us would have a lawyer draw it up, of course.

What are the options?  As opposed to having a lawyer draw it up?
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 15:25:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22709
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 15:25:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3950B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:40:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12436644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 21:45:17 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T1jHd24194 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:45:17 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws165-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.165]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5T1jDQ08175
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:45:13 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206282015040.3082-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1D1126.45ECF763@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:45:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Job Ad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> I am impressed. You have said that you will teach 3 courses Fall 2002
> (all linguistics, I assume). And now your dept is advertising for
> another Lx person - presumably to teach another 3 courses. We could not
> fill 6 Lx courses in the English Dep't during one semester.

No, the idea is that this visiting professor would teach the courses
that I will otherwise have to teach.  We're worried now about only the
essential courses.  There are three totally essential ones fall
semester.  When I decided to retire, I knew that we had been given money
to hire a one-year person to replace our TESOL person.  But then there
was this long, draggy time when we had not been given permission to
advertise.  We got this permission just today.  Spring semester we have
at least four linguistics courses, but one of them is HOTEL, which can
be taught by a medievalist, and another, sociolinguistics in
odd-numbered years, language and culture in even-numbered years, can be
left out if necessary since it's not required of anybody for anything,
though it would be a shame to leave it out since both of those courses
are very popular and are, imho, very good for people to take.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 15:37:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22754
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 15:37:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3956A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:51:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12437034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 21:57:03 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T1v3d25452 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:57:03 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws150-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.150]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5T1v1Q10835
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:57:01 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <40.1fe0aad7.2a4df66c@aol.com> <3D1C9EC9.830972B2@valstar.net>
            <3D1D0ABF.562417C5@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1D13B6.613BA9FC@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:56:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

>   This will be the first July 4
> I've been home since pre-fests.

Not quite true.  I was home for GoatRoast.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 15:38:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22763
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 15:38:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E39579@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:53:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12436785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 21:58:20 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T1mKd24639 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:48:20 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5T1mJOI027752 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:48:19 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206282147520.3695-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:48:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1D0FC1.3B80E5DD@maynor.net>

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> You don't need your RRB or RRSIL to get one - all you need is your
>> mother's signature. Most of us would have a lawyer draw it up, of course.
>
>What are the options?  As opposed to having a lawyer draw it up?

None that I care to contemplate. Why do you object so to doing things
the best way?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 15:48:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22793
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 15:48:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E395D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:02:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12437365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 22:08:06 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T286d26537 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:08:06 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws150-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.150]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5T284Q13827
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:08:04 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206282147520.3695-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1D1680.98AF837@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:08:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >What are the options?  As opposed to having a lawyer draw it up?
>
> None that I care to contemplate. Why do you object so to doing things
> the best way?

I just don't see much point in paying money to a lawyer to do something
that isn't required by law to be done by a lawyer.  Some people think
they have to pay a lawyer when buying a house.  Afaik, this house really
truly got transferred into my name without the help of a lawyer.  Wills
are another thing.  Hand-written wills with no lawyer's input are
totally legal in Mississippi.  So why should I want to pay a lawyer?
For most people I don't see any need ever to hire a lawyer.  But then,
as we've discussed before, some people feel that they need to hire an
accountant to add and subtract and multiply for them.  Or hire somebody
to push a lawnmower across their yard.  Etc. etc.  As I think I've said
before, I tend to hire people to do things I can't do myself, not to do
things I'm too lazy to do myself.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 16:05:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22860
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 16:05:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C04D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:25:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12437510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 22:25:37 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T2Fbd27136 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:15:37 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5T2FaOI000748 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:15:36 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206282211380.3695-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:15:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1D1680.98AF837@maynor.net>

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>I just don't see much point in paying money to a lawyer to do something
>that isn't required by law to be done by a lawyer.  Some people think
>they have to pay a lawyer when buying a house.  Afaik, this house really
>truly got transferred into my name without the help of a lawyer.  Wills
>are another thing.  Hand-written wills with no lawyer's input are
>totally legal in Mississippi.  So why should I want to pay a lawyer?

Because we know a great deal more than you do about the matters at
issue and can foresee potential problems and prevent them. True, problems
do not always arise. But in many situations, they are pretty
predictable. If I had a brother and sil like yours, I want definitely use
a lawyer for such things as poas.

full disclosure is important: I am not currently licensed to practice law
in the state of Tennessee, and nothing that I say should be construed to
constitute legal advice.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 16:09:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22872
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 16:09:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C0504@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:29:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12437884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 22:29:05 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T2T5d28236 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:29:05 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g5T2T0e22711 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:29:00 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206282127350.22673-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:29:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206282211380.3695-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> full disclosure is important: I am not currently licensed to practice law
> in the state of Tennessee

Were you ever?  If so, did you stop because of the cost (malpractice
insurance, bar dues?)

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 16:35:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23144
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 16:35:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C0622@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:54:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12438226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 22:54:17 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T2iHd29480 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:44:17 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5T2iGOI007792 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:44:16 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206282242220.3695-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:44:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206282127350.22673-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:

>> full disclosure is important: I am not currently licensed to practice law
>> in the state of Tennessee
>
>Were you ever?  If so, did you stop because of the cost (malpractice
>insurance, bar dues?)

Oh, yes. I stopped for two reasons: the cost of continuing legal
education for continued licensing and the tendency of opposing counsel
always to try to paint me as an advocate when I was testifying as an
expert witness. Bar dues are not that much - I am a member of the ABA and
have recently asked to be reinstated as a member of the TBA.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 16:41:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23166
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 16:41:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C070B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:01:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12438582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 23:01:27 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T2pRd30287 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:51:27 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5T2pQOI009646 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:51:26 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206282246520.3695-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:51:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Natalie and UT
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie is having a lot of fun with our situation in TN. At one point,
she said:

>> So will I be going to Finland?

> Well, I'm going to Finland because my name is on the program and I've
bought the plane ticket.  None of that has anything to do with MSU,
except that its name will be listed beside mine in the program.

For me, those are necessary but not sufficient conditions. I have bought a
ticket (and have been reimbursed by UT) for it) and my name is on the
program. But when I am travelling on university business and my university
tells me that I may not travel on that business during certain dates, then
I do not travel during those dates. Duh!

If I do, I will almost certainly not be reimbursed for my additional
expenses - and I may well be asked to refund the cost of my airline
ticket. If UT is paying, it gets to set some conditions.

I am not going to Finland for my health, though I hope to take care of it
while I am there - I am, in fact, going on university business.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 17:26:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23325
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 17:26:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E39ED3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:41:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12444028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 23:46:37 -0400
Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T3kad04039 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:46:36 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.ba.281e3d76 (4312) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002
          23:46:27 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <ba.281e3d76.2a4e8793@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:46:27 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 06/28/2002 12:43:14 PM Central Daylight Time,
peterlevy@EMAIL.COM writes:

<<
The studios pay good money for the right to edit and alter the story.
>>

Look at Blade Runner; Ridley Scott jettisoned the whole religious angle
and Deckard's wife and swears that Deckard himself was a replicant.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 17:29:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23336
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 17:29:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C0A89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:49:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12444057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 23:49:03 -0400
Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T3n3d04202 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:49:03 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.4a.d9d42d2 (4312) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002
          23:48:56 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <4a.d9d42d2.2a4e8828@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:48:56 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 06/28/2002 12:43:49 PM Central Daylight Time,
verdie@EARTHLINK.NET writes:

<<
- the fact that he *did* use antipsychotic drugs to help recover from
his illness, although the intellectual exercise portrayed in the
movie did help. This was the part that angered me the most, since I
felt it had the potential to encourage schizophrenics to go off their
meds


>>

But Nash hasn't used antipsychotic drugs since the 1970's.  A
number of the members of the Schizophrenia list were upset that
the movie stated that he had.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 17:32:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23347
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 17:32:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C0AA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:51:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12444177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 23:51:56 -0400
Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T3ptd04509 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:51:56 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.20.2b0f85af (4312) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002
          23:51:47 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <20.2b0f85af.2a4e88d3@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:51:47 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 06/28/2002 3:20:03 PM Central Daylight Time,
verdie@EARTHLINK.NET writes:

<<
Ed Harris *was* terrific. Although I still have trouble looking at
him and not seeing John Glenn.


>>

I don't see John Glenn when I see him; I see the guy who ran
Jim Carrey's life in the Truman Show.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 17:37:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23370
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 17:37:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C0AE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:56:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12444390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 23:56:47 -0400
Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T3uld04949 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:56:47 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.16.215e64be (4312) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002
          23:56:40 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <16.215e64be.2a4e89f8@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:56:40 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 06/28/2002 9:49:51 AM Central Daylight Time,
toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM writes:

<<
Since wordslers typically get together on the 4th of July, what is everyone
doing this year?
>>

I'll be working.  It's strange:  sometimes my schedule is only 17 hours,
sometimes it's 60 hours a week.  During July, it will be 50 - 60 hours a
week because my manager transferred Richard to paint when she knew
that Annegret was going to take a three-week vacation to England,
leaving me the only person in the department.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 17:52:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23436
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 17:52:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C0CCC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 0:12:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12446916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 00:07:14 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T45pd06888 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 00:05:51 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust231.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.233]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003570397@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 00:05:33 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 00:06:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>

> I have no control over that.
>
> I also have no way to close a bank account that has nothing to do with
> me.
>
> I do have poa, afaik.

Then you are not powerless, and you do have a way to close the bank
account. You have as much power as your mother. Also, because your
mother is there by you, she can cancel the previous poa and make a new
one naming just you.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 17:54:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23441
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 17:54:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3A4B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 0:08:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12444656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 00:09:44 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T3xhd05325 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:59:43 -0400
Received: from red.impulse.net (red.impulse.net [207.154.64.11]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g5T3xhw03132 for
          <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:59:43 -0400
Received: (qmail 2398 invoked by uid 106); 29 Jun 2002 03:59:42 -0000
Received: from drreed@impulse.net by red.impulse.net by uid 103 with
          qmail-scanner-1.12 (F-PROT: 3.12spamassassin: 2.31. . Clear:.
          Processed in 0.957415 secs); 29 Jun 2002 03:59:42 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO oemcomputer) (207.154.71.75) by red.impulse.net
          with SMTP; 29 Jun 2002 03:59:41 -0000
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <000901c21f21$ffb18100$4b479acf@oemcomputer>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:03:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Elwood P. Dowd" <drreed@IMPULSE.NET>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
Comments: To: words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 06:09:05 -0700 Bookrat said;=20
> But will they have fireworks fish swimming under a fireworks =
waterfall?
> I mean, *nobody* puts on a display like the Santa Barbara Bank & =
Trust.

Gentle Ken,
   Alas, such events are fast fading from small-town America.  The fish, =
along=20
with Tom's Meat Market's glowing chops and chicken, and the mighty =
rocket=20
that never did quite make it to the top of the stadium, try as it might =
each year,
are now distant memories.  The Lompoc Fourth of July Committee decided
last year that they were going "uptown".  The displays are now presented =
by
professional pyrotechnicians, instead of being designed, built, and =
executed
by the local groups under the guidance of the LFD.  More's the pity.  We =

are now treated to the same unimaginative and sterile displays as our =
urban
brothers.
   I can still sit in the bleachers, however, and imagine that at any =
moment we
will be joined by a throng of MissionFestivants, and that I will once =
more be=20
convulsed in hysterical laughter at the thought of all of us coming =
together in=20
Lompoc, Ca.  But I do miss the fish.

Pax in piscis lumina,
Elwood P.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 19:34:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23801
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 19:34:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3ADE6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 1:48:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12455060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 01:53:53 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T5rqd17415 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 01:53:53 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5T5rptr026129 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:53:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020628225729.00ace550@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:57:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3093407393.1025295623@TWILD>

At 08:20 PM 6/28/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>I want one!!!    Betty, the fireflys are flashing!

I want a firefly!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 19:42:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25562
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 19:42:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3AEB4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 1:56:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12456044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 02:01:44 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T61id19511 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 02:01:44 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5T61gtr029678 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:01:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020628230432.00ac2980@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:05:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000901c21f21$ffb18100$4b479acf@oemcomputer>

At 09:03 PM 6/28/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>    I can still sit in the bleachers, however, and imagine that at any
> moment we
>will be joined by a throng of MissionFestivants, and that I will once more be
>convulsed in hysterical laughter at the thought of all of us coming
>together in
>Lompoc, Ca.  But I do miss the fish.
>
>Pax in piscis lumina,
>Elwood P.

It was one of the best times!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 19:43:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25570
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 19:43:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C13E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 2:03:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12456138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 02:03:04 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T633d19721 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 02:03:03 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5T631tr002766 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:03:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020628174826.00a151f0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020628230557.00adde10@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:06:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1D0F3D.4149FB0F@maynor.net>

At 08:37 PM 6/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > http://home.attbi.com/~lgclark/batfest.htm
>
>Beautiful!!  I want one!

I am assuming that you all know who designed this. The master himself!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 20:14:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25631
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 20:14:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3B04C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 2:28:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12457461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 02:34:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T6Y2d22482 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 02:34:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 652D98016; Fri, 28
          Jun 2002 23:34:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020629063401.652D98016@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:34:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020628225729.00ace550@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jun 28, 2002 10:57:45 pm"

Betty said:
> At 08:20 PM 6/28/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >I want one!!!    Betty, the fireflys are flashing!
>
> I want a firefly!

There are more fireflies than bats here.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 20:50:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25675
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 20:50:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3B187@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 3:05:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12458636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 03:10:30 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T7AQd25362 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 03:10:30 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g5T7DRg20957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:13:27
          +0200
References: <20020627172608.A16587@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020627152558.E6A657E79@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020627173829.E16587@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D1BAEEA.2C25EC9A@maynor.net>
            <20020628091138.B18408@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D1C49F9.C2DFF7BF@maynor.net>
            <20020628152542.A19123@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D1CE5A0.54B701B8@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020629091326.A20930@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:13:26 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates etc.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1CE5A0.54B701B8@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Fri,
              Jun 28, 2002 at 05:39:28PM -0500

On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 05:39:28PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote:
= steph wrote:
=
= > I don't know your brother, but even if he laughed first, I bet he
= > does know the right lawyer.
=
= Who/what he knows isn't relevant.  His laughter wouldn't be jolly
= laughter.  It would be critical laughter, followed by no useful
= response.
=

Oh.  I didn't realize your brother was such a jerk.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 21:00:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA25691
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 21:00:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3B1BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 3:14:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12458623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 03:19:41 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T79fd25294 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 03:09:41 -0400
Received: from out011.verizon.net (out011pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.135]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T79ew14785 for
          <WORDS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 03:09:40 -0400
Received: from smtp.verizon.net ([4.64.2.59]) by out011.verizon.net (InterMail
          vM.5.01.05.05 201-253-122-126-105-20020426) with SMTP id
          <20020629070927.XGT26919.out011.verizon.net@smtp.verizon.net>; Sat,
          29 Jun 2002 02:09:27 -0500
Message-ID:  <20020629070927.XGT26919.out011.verizon.net@smtp.verizon.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 03:05:43 EST
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: cranfordlines.claimscenter@VERIZON.NET
Subject:      test6
Comments: To: Friend@public.com
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

We are struggling with the decisions related to wether or not to
 go ahead with our plans to purchase an OCR and forms
 scanning solution.
 An outside consultant mentioned that he had heard that not to
 long ago you folks were considering implementing OCR
 technology to reduce data entry costs and improve efficiency.

 If you could let us know if you did move foreward with any
 plans in that direction it would be of great help to us. May I ask
 what initialy prompted you to consider OCR? Did you decide it
 could help your compamy? What software did you go with?
 Would you recomend we take a look at it?

    At present we are still planning to continue our research until
 we decide which OCR system best suits our needs, then
 implement it quickly.
 If you are just starting to consider this
 technology feel free to stay in touch. We will let you know what
 we decide on and if it works for us.


    If you cannot advise on this please foreward this E-mail to the
 proper individual in your company who might be able to help with
 this.

                          Thanks,

                                           Steve

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 21:18:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA25728
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 23 May 1960 21:18:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3B216@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 3:32:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12459182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 03:37:58 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5T7bvd27204 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 03:37:57 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g5T7ewr20993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:40:58
          +0200
References: <F1711uAPe9L4eFQ1FgP00000636@hotmail.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206281911160.14158-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020629094058.B20930@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:40:58 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206281911160.14158-100000@og1.olagrande.net>;
              from aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET on Fri, Jun 28,
              2002 at 07:15:49PM -0500

=
= We'll be in some tiny dump of a motel near Mt. Lassen:
=
= Ann

Oh, it is going to be hot as hell driving up there.  The first
time I ever went up to Chico was around the 4th of July.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 00:59:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA26069
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 00:59:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3B72B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 7:13:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12444752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 07:18:50 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TBIod11122 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 07:18:50 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws64-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.64]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5TBIlQ19417
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 06:18:47 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 06:17:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> > I do have poa, afaik.
>
> Then you are not powerless, and you do have a way to close the bank
> account. You have as much power as your mother.

But how would the bank know that?  I've never seen a copy of the poa,
don't know the name of the lawyer who did it, etc.

> Also, because your
> mother is there by you, she can cancel the previous poa and make a new
> one naming just you.

That would be not only tacky but also impractical.  Like what if
something suddenly happened to me?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 01:00:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26083
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 01:00:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3B730@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 7:15:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12444765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 07:20:17 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TBKHd11241 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 07:20:17 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws64-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.64]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5TBKEQ19575
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 06:20:15 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1D97EB.8E5E8E3E@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 06:20:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Rain
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

We've finally gotten enough rain to make flowers and tomatoes and such
look happier.  Alas, it is also encouraging the grass.  If I didn't have
dogs, I'd move to an apartment or a zero-lot house.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 01:08:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26097
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 01:08:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C1EBA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 7:28:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12444748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 07:28:11 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TBIBd11099 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 07:18:11 -0400
Received: from pasta.CC.UGA.EDU ([212.96.2.72]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g5TBI5w28294 for
          <WORDS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 07:18:05 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <200206291118.g5TBI5w28294@pasta.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 07:28:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Dr. Igho Tobore." <funmilord@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Please endeavour to mail me !!!!THANKS
Comments: To: WORDS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL.(PLEASE IT'S URGENT).

Hello dear,

It is my great pleasure  writing you this letter on
behalf of myself and my colleagues.


Your particulars were given to me by a member of the
Nigerian Export Promotion Council (NEPC) who was at
the Federal Government Delegation to your country
during a trade exhibition. I have decided to seek a
confidential cooperation with you in the execution of
the deal described hereunder for the benefit of all
parties and hope you will keep it as top secret
because of the nature of this business.


Within the Ministry of Petroleum Resources where I
work as a Director, Project Implementation and with
the cooperation of four other top officials, we have
in our possession as overdue payment bills totalling
Fourteen Million, Five Hundred Thousand U. S. Dollars
(US$14,500,000.00) which we want to transfer abroad
with assistance and cooperation of a foreign
company/individual to receive the said fund on our
behalf or a reliable foreign non-company account to
receive such funds. Moreso, we are handicapped in the
circumstances as the Nigerian Civil Service Code of
Conduct does not allow us to operate offshore account
hence your importance in the whole transaction.


The amount represents the balance of the total
contract value executed on behalf of my Ministry by a
foreign contracting firm which we the officials
over-invoiced deliberately. Though the actual contract
cost have been paid to the original contractor,
leaving the balance in the tune of the said amount
which we have in principles gotten approval to remit
by Telegraphic Transfer (T.T) to foreign bank account
you will provide by filing in an application through
the Federal Ministry of Justice for the transfer of
rights and privileges of the former contractor to you.


Since the new civilian government of my country is
determined to pay every foreign contractor all debts
owed so as to maintain good relationship with foreign
government and non-government financial agencies,
therefore we have decided to include our bills for
approvals with the cooperation of some officials from
the Federal Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank
of Nigeria (CBN). We are seeking your assistance in
providing a vital account or any virgin bank account
into which we can remit this money by acting as our
main partner and trustee. This we can do by swapping
of account and changing of beneficiary and other forms
of documentation upon application for claim to reflect
the payment and approvals to be secured on your
behalf. This processes being pre-arranged with the
principal trustee of the original contractor and with
the consent of the original contractor.

I have the authority of my partners involved to
propose that should you be willing to assist us in the
transaction your share of the sum will be 30% of the
US$14.5 million, 60% for us and 10% for taxation and
miscellaneous expenses.


The business itself is 100% safe, on your part
provided you treat it with utmost secrecy and
confidentiality. Also your area of specialization is
not a hindrance to the successful execution of this
transaction. I have reposed my confidence in you and
hope that you will not disappoint me. Please endeavour
to contact me on  my email  address;kemi4nnpc@churches.net
concerning your position and include your
confidential telephone and fax numbers.

Thanks for your cooperation.


Yours faithfully,

Dr. Igho Tobore.
kemi4nnpc@churches.net

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 01:43:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26162
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 01:43:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3B801@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 7:58:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12445448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 08:03:24 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TC3Od14337 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:03:24 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-103.panax.com
          [65.114.190.103]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5TC3Oj12718 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          08:03:24 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206282127350.22673-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629075640.00b39870@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:03:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206282242220.3695-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

At 10:44 PM 6/28/2002 -0400, bethany wrote:
>...and the tendency of opposing counsel
>always to try to paint me as an advocate when I was testifying as an
>expert witness.

That's the name of the game---weaken the experts' testimony by casting
doubt (1) on their expertise or (2) on their objectivity.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 02:08:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26217
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 02:08:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3B869@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 8:22:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12445632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 08:27:40 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TCHed15290 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:17:40 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TCHdOI004758 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:17:39 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206290815550.15562-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:17:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>But how would the bank know that?  I've never seen a copy of the poa,
>don't know the name of the lawyer who did it, etc.

If you do not have the poa (NOT a copy), then for all practical purposes
you do not have a poa.

>> Also, because your >> mother is there by you, she can cancel the
previous poa and make a new >> one naming just you.
>
>That would be not only tacky but also impractical.  Like what if
>something suddenly happened to me?

Surely you have given someone a poa???

Natalie, get thee to a lawyer! You NEED one.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 02:12:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26250
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 02:12:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3B87B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 8:27:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12445722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 08:32:28 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TCMSd15683 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:22:28 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TCMROI005637;
          Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:22:27 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206290819040.15562-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:22:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      "State shutdown looms"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Cheery headline, isn't it? That's what I woke up to this a.m.

Acc. to the KNS, legislators spent all day Friday on "inconclusive
quarrels and convoluted maneuvers."

I'll have to go by my office and pick up a few items today - I may be
forbidden to enter the campus Monday. I normally work in my UT office
every business day.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 02:16:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26289
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 02:16:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3B87F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 8:31:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12445789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 08:36:18 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TCQHd15937 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:26:18 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TCQHOI006252 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:26:17 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206290825380.15562-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:26:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      MIssissippi murder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

NPR is doing a show right now on Mississippi plants that are born to kill.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 02:24:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26305
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 02:24:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C20AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 8:43:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12446040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 08:43:35 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TChZd17239 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:43:35 -0400
Received: from attbi.com ([24.218.148.10]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020629124329.WDVP8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@attbi.com> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:43:29 +0000
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2
X-Accept-Language: en-us
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F1711uAPe9L4eFQ1FgP00000636@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1DAC99.1000301@attbi.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:48:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I will be doing my typical holiday running around.

Thursday we'll be at Tina's brother's house. He's having a party and
he's got a pool. Depending on what time we're done here I wouldn't mind
heading to the Cambridge side of the Charles River to watch the
fireworks.  I did this last year and it was fantastic. They set up
speakers and such so you can hear the Pops playing and you don't have to
deal with the swarm of people who have been roasting in the sun on the
Esplanade all day.

Friday - Sunday we'll be down in Ct. at my mother's. She lives on the
shoreline in Ct. so we'll be doing the beach thing.

Saturday my closest friend and mother of my godson is having a cookout
for Tina, my mother and I. She's inviting her parents so we can all get
together, relax and hang out.

By Monday I'll be begging to go back to the peace and quiet of my
office. Oh did I mention we're about two months away from the first
release of our product and currently cranking out beta versions? Imagine
how peaceful things are there.

lisa

Anne Toal wrote:

> Since wordslers typically get together on the 4th of July, what is
> everyone
> doing this year? Graham and I will be at a party celebrating the end
> of the
> reorg that my department just went through.
>
> -aht
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 02:39:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26346
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 02:39:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C2109@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 8:58:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12446243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 08:58:32 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TCwWd18307 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:58:32 -0400
Received: from attbi.com ([24.218.148.10]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020629125827.OAHO15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@attbi.com> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:58:27 +0000
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2
X-Accept-Language: en-us
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020628120557.00a25100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1DB01A.6000708@attbi.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:03:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Yahoo! News Story - Pledge Ruled Unconstitutional
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Yeah.. me too Betty.. me too!

lisa

Betty wrote:

> I'm getting rid of my money as fast as I can!
>
> Betty
>
> At 06:55 PM 6/28/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>
>> >I do think that trying to delete that phrase now is kind
>> of >silly, considering that our coins say "in God we
>> trust," >etc. etc.  But what I'll never understand is why
>> the phrase >was added in the first place. It struck me as
>> ridiculous >then, and I have not changed my view of it.
>>
>> There was never a time in my life where "under God" was
>> not a part of the Pledge.
>>
>> There was a man on CNN yesterday who brought up the issue
>> of our currency being marked in God We Trust. I don't
>> know of anyone who's refused to us our money or has even
>> gone to court to get it changed (which of course doesn't
>> mean it hasn't happened).
>
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 03:12:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27460
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 03:12:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3B96B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 9:26:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12446807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 09:31:55 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TDVsd20955 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:31:55 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust0.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.2]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004884581@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 09:31:54 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020628225729.00ace550@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1DB71A.ACAB7982@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:33:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:>
> I want a firefly!

I have one in the kitchen. We've been trying for about three days to
catch him and put him back outside, but no luck so far. I fear he will
starve to death.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 03:22:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27858
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 03:22:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3B9A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 9:37:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12447033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 09:42:22 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TDgMd21975 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:42:22 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust0.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.2]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004884755@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 09:42:18 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1DB98A.C69B366@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:43:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> That would be not only tacky but also impractical.  Like what if
> something suddenly happened to me?

Tacky? Oh, please. Then your mother could name your brother instead.
Giving power of attorney to someone does not preclude doing one's own
thing. Doug has poa for me, but I still do my own financial things. I
fail to see why it is tacky to manage your mother's affairs in a sane
manner in order to protect her dwindling assets. In any case, because
she is of sound mind, she can contact the bank, close the account, get
duplicate bank statements, and everything else that's needed. I urge you
to get the bank statements asap. I do not want to hear you cry when tax
time comes next year and you don't have the information you need. As far
as I can see, there is no reason to give a fig about your brother having
poa, given that he not only is showing no interest in your mother's
affairs, but has actually caused harm by allowing her estate to be
ripped off.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 03:29:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27865
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 03:29:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3B9BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 9:43:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12447091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 09:48:58 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TDmvd22342 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:48:57 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-22.panax.com
          [65.114.190.22]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5TDmvj28829 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          09:48:57 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:48:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1DB98A.C69B366@valstar.net>

>Tacky? Oh, please. Then your mother could name your brother instead.
>Giving power of attorney to someone does not preclude doing one's own
>thing. Doug has poa for me, but I still do my own financial things. I
>fail to see why it is tacky to manage your mother's affairs in a sane
>manner in order to protect her dwindling assets. In any case, because
>she is of sound mind, she can contact the bank, close the account, get
>duplicate bank statements, and everything else that's needed. I urge you
>to get the bank statements asap. I do not want to hear you cry when tax
>time comes next year and you don't have the information you need. As far
>as I can see, there is no reason to give a fig about your brother having
>poa, given that he not only is showing no interest in your mother's
>affairs, but has actually caused harm by allowing her estate to be
>ripped off.        --alyce

Ah, the voice of sweet reason.  But I'm sure Natalie will have a "yah, but
... ..."



    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 03:37:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27880
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 03:37:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3B9DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 9:51:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12447195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 09:56:33 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TDuXd22861 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:56:33 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust0.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.2]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003577698@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 09:56:33 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206290819040.15562-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1DBCE1.EC036377@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:57:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: "State shutdown looms"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Putting all the textile workers out of business?
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 03:38:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27887
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 03:38:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3B9E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 9:53:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12447215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 09:58:16 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TDwGd22995 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:58:16 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYH001R40541J@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:58:16 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID:  <3D1DBCA4.20704@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:56:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

>> Tacky? Oh, please. Then your mother could name your brother instead.
>> Giving power of attorney to someone does not preclude doing one's own
>> thing. Doug has poa for me, but I still do my own financial things. I
>> fail to see why it is tacky to manage your mother's affairs in a sane
>> manner in order to protect her dwindling assets. In any case, because
>> she is of sound mind, she can contact the bank, close the account, get
>> duplicate bank statements, and everything else that's needed. I urge you
>> to get the bank statements asap. I do not want to hear you cry when tax
>> time comes next year and you don't have the information you need. As far
>> as I can see, there is no reason to give a fig about your brother having
>> poa, given that he not only is showing no interest in your mother's
>> affairs, but has actually caused harm by allowing her estate to be
>> ripped off.        --alyce
>
>
> Ah, the voice of sweet reason.  But I'm sure Natalie will have a "yah, but
> ... ..."


        I don't how these things work in the Great State of
Mississippi, but if something happens to Natalie so that
she's incapacitated (say, she's hypnotized by a tide of
rolling flesh and doesn't see Starkville's only cab
careening around the corner and ends up with a head injury)
wouldn't that mean her brother would be put in charge of her
medical and financial affairs?



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 03:40:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27896
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 03:40:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3B9EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 9:54:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12447239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 09:59:59 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TDxwd23077 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:59:59 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYH0017107Y1I@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:59:58 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020628225729.00ace550@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D1DB71A.ACAB7982@valstar.net>
Message-ID:  <3D1DBD0A.2020107@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:58:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Betty wrote:>
>
>>I want a firefly!
>>
>
> I have one in the kitchen. We've been trying for about three days to
> catch him and put him back outside, but no luck so far. I fear he will
> starve to death.
>


        What do they eat?



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 03:46:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27912
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 03:46:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BA04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:00:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12447320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 10:06:07 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TE66d23508 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:06:06 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust0.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.2]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004885053@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 10:06:06 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1DBCA4.20704@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1DBF1E.8BF9AAA0@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:07:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> wouldn't that mean her brother would be put in charge of her
> medical and financial affairs?

Looks like it. Of course, she could get a PoA. But, nah, it is so tacky.

alyce
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 03:47:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27916
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 03:47:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BA08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:01:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12447336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 10:07:08 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TE78d23598 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:07:08 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust0.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.2]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004885064@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 10:07:06 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020628225729.00ace550@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D1DB71A.ACAB7982@valstar.net> <3D1DBD0A.2020107@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1DBF5A.EE3D7AF9@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:08:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>         What do they eat?

I have no idea, but I doubt it is found in my kitchen.

I will Google.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 03:48:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27920
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 03:48:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BA0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:02:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12447351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 10:07:46 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TE7kd23636 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:07:46 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-63.panax.com
          [65.114.190.63]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5TE7kj31488 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          10:07:46 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100649.009e9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:07:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1DBCA4.20704@swbell.net>

        I don't how these things work in the Great State of
>Mississippi, but if something happens to Natalie so that
>she's incapacitated (say, she's hypnotized by a tide of
>rolling flesh and doesn't see Starkville's only cab
>careening around the corner and ends up with a head injury)
>wouldn't that mean her brother would be put in charge of her
>medical and financial affairs?  --Rita Rouvalis Chapman

Natalie has already admitted that that would be the case.  And she surmises
that he will simply throw away all her books which she regrets but yet does
nothing about.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 03:50:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27924
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 03:50:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BA14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:04:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12447385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 10:09:28 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TE9Sd23820 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:09:28 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-63.panax.com
          [65.114.190.63]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5TE9Sj31836 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          10:09:28 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020628225729.00ace550@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D1DB71A.ACAB7982@valstar.net> <3D1DBD0A.2020107@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100831.009fc430@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:09:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1DBF5A.EE3D7AF9@valstar.net>

> >         What do they eat?
>
>I have no idea, but I doubt it is found in my kitchen.
>alyce

I'll bet it is.  <Everything> is found in your kitchen.  Except maybe
fattening human food.  Has your new gain-weight diet helped??


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 03:52:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27928
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 03:52:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BA17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:06:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12447400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 10:11:29 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TEBTd23988 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:11:29 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust0.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.2]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003577921@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 10:11:27 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020628225729.00ace550@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D1DB71A.ACAB7982@valstar.net> <3D1DBD0A.2020107@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1DC05E.9D2D3E17@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:12:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Googling:
Both adult fireflies and their larvae eat dead snails, earthworms,
leaves, and grass.

None of these are in my kitchen.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 03:53:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27936
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 03:53:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BA1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:08:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12447417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 10:13:24 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TEDOd24193 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:13:24 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust0.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.2]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003577946@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 10:13:24 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020628225729.00ace550@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D1DB71A.ACAB7982@valstar.net> <3D1DBD0A.2020107@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100831.009fc430@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1DC0D3.3D03B902@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:14:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> I'll bet it is.  <Everything> is found in your kitchen.  Except maybe
> fattening human food.  Has your new gain-weight diet helped??

I go to get weighed on Tuesday. I have not been doing much about the
"diet," except that I have been eating a lot of popcorn. Don't know that
it is fattening, though. I did buy a half gallon of ice cream yesterday,
but did not open it.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 04:04:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27952
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 04:04:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BA46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:18:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12447543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 10:23:59 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TENxd24883 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:23:59 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TENwtr013564 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 07:23:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206281911160.14158-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <F1711uAPe9L4eFQ1FgP00000636@hotmail.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206281911160.14158-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020629072622.00acbae0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 07:27:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020629094058.B20930@yoccoz.multinix.com>

At 09:40 AM 6/29/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>=
>= We'll be in some tiny dump of a motel near Mt. Lassen:
>=
>= Ann
>
>Oh, it is going to be hot as hell driving up there.  The first
>time I ever went up to Chico was around the 4th of July.

Go to Manzanita Lake.  We always camp there but there is no motel. You can
walk around the lake and get a better view of the mountain.  Of course you
could also hike up the mountain.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 04:13:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27979
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 04:12:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BA72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:27:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12447658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 10:32:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TEWQd25455 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:32:26 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EC5C281CC; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 07:32:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020629143225.EC5C281CC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 07:32:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1DB71A.ACAB7982@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jun 29,
              2002  9:33:14 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Betty wrote:>
> > I want a firefly!
>
> I have one in the kitchen. We've been trying for about three days to
> catch him and put him back outside, but no luck so far. I fear he will
> starve to death.

What do fireflies eat?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 04:45:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA28066
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 04:45:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BB07@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:59:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12448220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 11:05:07 -0400
Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5TF56d28108 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          11:05:07 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17OJmc-00061m-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat,
          29 Jun 2002 08:05:06 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <4a.d9d42d2.2a4e8828@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010423b9437c022482@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:01:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4a.d9d42d2.2a4e8828@aol.com>

>In a message dated 06/28/2002 12:43:49 PM Central Daylight Time,
>verdie@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
>
><<
>- the fact that he *did* use antipsychotic drugs to help recover from
>his illness, although the intellectual exercise portrayed in the
>movie did help. This was the part that angered me the most, since I
>felt it had the potential to encourage schizophrenics to go off their
>meds
>
>
>>>
>
>But Nash hasn't used antipsychotic drugs since the 1970's.  A
>number of the members of the Schizophrenia list were upset that
>the movie stated that he had.

No. Apparently his schizophrenia went into spontaneous remission
later in his life. But during his floridly schizophrenic period, he
*did* use drugs, and when he didn't, the delusions returned.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 04:50:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA28078
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 04:50:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BB16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:05:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12448285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 11:10:14 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe59.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.194]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TFADd28463 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:10:14 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          29 Jun 2002 08:10:08 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.69]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2002 15:10:08.0503 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[0E8A0870:01C21F7F]
Message-ID:  <OE593RNpggkzpB8JPGb00001412@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:11:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Since Carl will be with grandparents for the entire week (being a perfect
angel, no doubt), I shall pursue the single life to its fullest. Although I
will be teaching three days next week, the rest of the time will be my own.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 04:56:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA28089
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 04:56:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BB24@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:10:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12448343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 11:15:32 -0400
Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5TFFWd28877 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          11:15:32 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17OJwh-00056p-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat,
          29 Jun 2002 08:15:31 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020628225729.00ace550@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D1DB71A.ACAB7982@valstar.net> <3D1DBD0A.2020107@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100831.009fc430@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1DC0D3.3D03B902@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010425b9437e86bbeb@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:11:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1DC0D3.3D03B902@valstar.net>

>bonniev wrote:
>>
>>  I'll bet it is.  <Everything> is found in your kitchen.  Except maybe
>>  fattening human food.  Has your new gain-weight diet helped??
>
>I go to get weighed on Tuesday. I have not been doing much about the
>"diet," except that I have been eating a lot of popcorn. Don't know that
>it is fattening, though.

If you douse it with butter, it is.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 05:02:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28120
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 05:02:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BB36@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:16:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12448420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 11:21:32 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TFLWd29232 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:21:32 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-135.panax.com
          [63.163.41.135]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5TFLWj10788 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          11:21:33 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206290819040.15562-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629111833.00b2f400@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:19:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: "State shutdown looms"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1DBCE1.EC036377@valstar.net>

At 09:57 AM 6/29/2002 -0400, alyce wrote:
>Putting all the textile workers out of business?

...as well as those who make the really neat chenille bedspreads that they
sell at roadside stands...

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 05:14:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28153
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 05:14:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C25B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:34:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12449022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 11:34:08 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TFY8d30564 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:34:08 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-50.panax.com
          [65.114.190.50]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5TFY8j12537 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          11:34:08 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020628225729.00ace550@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D1DB71A.ACAB7982@valstar.net> <3D1DBD0A.2020107@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629113332.00a05ae0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:34:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1DC05E.9D2D3E17@valstar.net>

>Googling:
>Both adult fireflies and their larvae eat dead snails, earthworms,
>leaves, and grass.
>
>None of these are in my kitchen.
>alyce

Can he fly down between a loose floor board and get dead snails under the
house??


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 05:54:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28215
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 05:54:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BD3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:08:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12450269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 12:13:31 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TGDUd01594 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:13:30 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust170.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.172]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004887034@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 12:13:30 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1DDCF5.BC43108F@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:14:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      so as not to offend
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://salon.com/ent/wire/2002/06/28/hunchback/index.html

Theater deems "Hunchback of Notre Dame" offensive

June 28, 2002  |  LONDON (AP) --

A British theater company has changed the name of its adaptation of the
classic novel, "The Hunchback of Notre Dame," so it won't offend people
with
the disability.

Oddsocks Productions swapped "hunchback" for "bellringer" because it did
not
want to upset people with scoliosis, producer Elli Mackenzie said
Friday.
The condition causes the spine to curve and, in extreme cases, the
development of a hunchback.

"We did not want to reinforce any stereotypes about Quasimodo's
disability,"
said Mackenzie.

The name change -- to "The Bellringer of Notre Dame" -- has been
applauded
by London's Scoliosis Association.

"I welcome it because in the past the title has caused some problems
with
our members in that people use it as derogatory term -- throwing names
and
making comments at the possible similarities," said Scoliosis
Association
spokesperson Libby Biberian, who has scoliosis.

"It's a very delicate thing. People have been rude and hurtful," she
said.

Mackenzie said the title of her production was changed after she spoke
with
a disability adviser.

Quasimodo, the lead character in Victor Hugo's novel, originally
published
in French under the title "Notre Dame de Paris," has a hunchback and is
deaf. He rings the bells of the famous Parisian cathedral.

"This is still very much a play about what is beautiful on the outside
and
the characters are still not terribly nice to the Quasimodo character --
who
is played by an able bodied actor," said Mackenzie.

Mackenzie said the company did not use the French title, which was used
by a
West End production last year, because it was not thought well enough
known
to attract audiences.

"We felt it was more descriptive to call it the Bellringer of Notre Dame
because it would ring bells in people's minds," said Mackenzie.

She said Quasimodo will appear very much as he is described in Victor
Hugo's
novel, including his hunchback.

The novel was first published in French in 1831, and was later
translated
into English. In 1923, it was made into a film starring Lon Chaney in
the
lead role, and a Disney animated feature film in 1996.
--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 05:59:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28239
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 05:59:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BD58@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:13:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12450334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 12:18:45 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TGIjd01911 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:18:45 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust170.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.172]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003579998@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 12:18:45 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020628225729.00ace550@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D1DB71A.ACAB7982@valstar.net> <3D1DBD0A.2020107@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100831.009fc430@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1DC0D3.3D03B902@valstar.net>
            <a05010425b9437e86bbeb@[192.168.1.100]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1DDE33.4749ADAB@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:20:03 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Janet Hardy wrote:
>
> If you douse it with butter, it is.

It is store-bought, but says "extra-buttery" on the bag.
I never have liked popcorn much in my whole life, but Ken bought this
special kind, and I can't stop eating it.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 06:07:57 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28261
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 06:07:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C27D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:27:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12450480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 12:27:21 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TGRLd02641 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:27:21 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust170.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.172]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003580128@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 12:27:20 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020628225729.00ace550@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D1DB71A.ACAB7982@valstar.net> <3D1DBD0A.2020107@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629113332.00a05ae0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1DE035.7F24BE2F@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:28:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> Can he fly down between a loose floor board and get dead snails under the
> house??

In addition to snails, worms, and grass, I have no loose floorboards in
my kitchen, and if I did, it would only take him into the basement where
there also are no snails, worms, or grass.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 06:09:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28268
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 06:09:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BD82@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:23:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12450498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 12:28:33 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TGSWd02728 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:28:32 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TGSTtr028801 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:28:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020629093207.00acd280@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:32:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE593RNpggkzpB8JPGb00001412@hotmail.com>

At 10:11 AM 6/29/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Since Carl will be with grandparents for the entire week (being a perfect
>angel, no doubt), I shall pursue the single life to its fullest. Although I
>will be teaching three days next week, the rest of the time will be my own.
>
>AS

Woo Hoo!  Put on your best whorish outfit!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 06:23:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28285
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 06:23:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BDBC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:37:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12450674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 12:42:30 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe31.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TGgUd03830 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:42:30 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          29 Jun 2002 09:42:24 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.69]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2002 16:42:24.0981 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[F2898850:01C21F8B]
Message-ID:  <OE31pubxcbz37cfJiY9000014da@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:43:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

BB:

>Since Carl will be with grandparents for the entire week (being a perfect
>angel, no doubt), I shall pursue the single life to its fullest. Although I
>will be teaching three days next week, the rest of the time will be my own.
>
>AS

>Woo Hoo!  Put on your best whorish outfit!

Woo Hoo HOO hoo hoo, that is! I'm in the midst of selecting my wardrobe.

Amy, who first typo'd "wordrobe"

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 06:29:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28315
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 06:29:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BDEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:44:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12450833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 12:49:22 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe46.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TGnMd04499 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:49:22 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          29 Jun 2002 09:49:16 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.69]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2002 16:49:16.0921 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[E8129690:01C21F8C]
Message-ID:  <OE46jik38dWMJ69ik6k0000148e@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:50:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Tanning Bed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Although I've traditionally been opposed to this method of skin-bronzing, in
my current environment and lifestyle it seemed like a practical choice if I
wanted to achieve some sort of outer glow. I will confess that I've started
frequenting a nearby tanning salon (at "safe" levels). The results are
pleasing.

Amy, who's versed in the power of rays

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 06:35:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28336
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 06:35:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BDF9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:49:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12450883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 12:54:57 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TGsud04935 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:54:56 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TGsttr007442 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:54:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020629095738.00a36df0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:58:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tanning Bed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE46jik38dWMJ69ik6k0000148e@hotmail.com>

At 11:50 AM 6/29/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Although I've traditionally been opposed to this method of skin-bronzing, in
>my current environment and lifestyle it seemed like a practical choice if I
>wanted to achieve some sort of outer glow. I will confess that I've started
>frequenting a nearby tanning salon (at "safe" levels). The results are
>pleasing.
>
>Amy, who's versed in the power of rays


Who determines safe?  None is better.  The lotions and creams have been
greatly improved.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 06:38:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28349
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 06:38:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BE0D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:53:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12450949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 12:58:23 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TGwNd05211 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:58:23 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TGwLtr003186 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:58:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020629100043.00a2ed10@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:02:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

One googled article said:

Tanning beds are as
                                       damaging as the real thing
                                       -- and in some respects,
                                  maybe even more so. There are
                                  two major types of ultraviolet
                                  radiation -- UV-A and UV-B rays.
                                  UV-B rays are a shorter
                                  wavelength and tend to cause
                                  sunburn (you can think of B =
                                  burning). They also damage the
                                  DNA in the skin surface cells and
                                  cause skin cancer. UV-A rays are
                                  a longer wavelength and
                                  penetrate more deeply, into the
                                  dermis, the layer under the skin
                                  surface. There, these UV-A rays
                                  damage collagen and elastin,
                                  contributing to loss of elasticity
                                  of the skin -- these rays are
                                  responsible for the dry, leathery,
                                  wrinkly skin of the chronically
                                  sun-exposed (think of A =
                                  aging). UV-A rays may also
                                  contribute to melanoma, another
                                  type of skin cancer.

http://www.ivillagehealth.com/experts/womens/qas/0,11816,166227_151529,00.html

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 06:43:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28356
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 06:43:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BE2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:57:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12451063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 13:02:45 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TH2jd05604 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 13:02:45 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-58.panax.com
          [65.114.190.58]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5TH2ij27390 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          13:02:45 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020628225729.00ace550@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D1DB71A.ACAB7982@valstar.net> <3D1DBD0A.2020107@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629113332.00a05ae0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629130055.009fd420@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 13:02:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1DE035.7F24BE2F@valstar.net>

>In addition to snails, worms, and grass, I have no loose floorboards in
>my kitchen, and if I did, it would only take him into the basement where
>there also are no snails, worms, or grass.      --alyce

I thought you didn't have a basement under the kitchen and that's why the
cold winds blew there and made you chilly in the winter.  And don't
underestimate what you might have in your basement.  Our little
curly-tailed Maine Coon Cat brings up the oddest critters from our
basement.  They are things we never see but she will sit for hours and hunt
these little many-legged or oddly-tailed insects.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 06:56:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28368
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 06:56:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3BEC1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 13:11:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12451450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 13:16:18 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5THGId06772 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 13:16:18 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust170.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.172]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003580940@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 13:16:18 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020628225729.00ace550@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D1DB71A.ACAB7982@valstar.net> <3D1DBD0A.2020107@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629113332.00a05ae0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629130055.009fd420@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1DEBAE.596BB3ED@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 13:17:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> I thought you didn't have a basement under the kitchen and that's why the
> cold winds blew there and made you chilly in the winter.

There is a basement (two, really) under the kitchen. The basement at the
end nearest the fireplace is a mudcellar, and the foundation is made of
fieldstone with plenty of large chinks. That is where the cold air comes
from. The other half of the room is over a regular basement with a
cement floor. But in any case, there is tile over the floorboards,
making it impossible for the lightning bug to get through them.

> And don't underestimate what you might have in your basement.

Well, I have had rats, mice, centipedes, and some beetles over the
years, but thanks to Terminex, I believe things are pretty much under
control down there. Well, there are spiders, but we like those and leave
them alone.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 08:09:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28551
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 08:09:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C157@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:23:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12453532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 14:28:59 -0400
Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.12]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5TISwd12575 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          14:28:59 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17OMxu-0000LS-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat,
          29 Jun 2002 11:28:58 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <OE46jik38dWMJ69ik6k0000148e@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010427b943abe69390@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:24:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tanning Bed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE46jik38dWMJ69ik6k0000148e@hotmail.com>

>Although I've traditionally been opposed to this method of skin-bronzing, in
>my current environment and lifestyle it seemed like a practical choice if I
>wanted to achieve some sort of outer glow. I will confess that I've started
>frequenting a nearby tanning salon (at "safe" levels). The results are
>pleasing.

I loooove tanning beds. So relaxing.

Janet
and, yes, I know it's bad for me.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 08:22:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28563
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 08:22:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C187@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:36:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12453559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 14:41:23 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TIVNd12751 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:31:23 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TIVMOI025181;
          Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:31:22 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291428110.18302-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:31:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

One of the more amusing things my mother does is complain about having to
live here in the big city of Knoxville. (And she has lived in Houston.)

I KNOW that I do not live in a city, but I forget occasioanlly. I went out
to the new "natural wellness" place today to try to see an
accupuncturist. Of course, I could not. They have only one, and of course
she does not work on Saturday!

In a city, they would be open until midnight on Saturday - and there would
be an accupuncturist available.

But here, one must have problems only 10-6 or so M-F.

(sigh)

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 08:23:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28570
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 08:23:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C18B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:37:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12453602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 14:42:46 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TIWkd12893 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:32:46 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TIWjOI025875 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:32:45 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291431450.18302-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:32:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tanning Bed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a05010427b943abe69390@[192.168.1.100]>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Janet Hardy wrote:

>Although I've traditionally been opposed to this method of skin-bronzing, in
>my current environment and lifestyle it seemed like a practical choice if I
>wanted to achieve some sort of outer glow. I will confess that I've started
>frequenting a nearby tanning salon (at "safe" levels). The results are
>>pleasing.

I did that kind of thing much earlier in life. No more. A tan is by
definition a bad thing.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 09:01:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28616
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 09:01:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C20D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 15:15:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12454179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 15:20:47 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TJKld16304 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 15:20:47 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust180.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.182]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004889587@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 15:20:47 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291428110.18302-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E08D9.7B427EA1@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 15:22:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
> In a city, they would be open until midnight on Saturday - and there would
> be an accupuncturist available.

Or at least an acupuncturist.

alyce


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 10:15:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28721
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 10:15:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C3B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 16:29:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12455863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 16:35:12 -0400
Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TKZCd22104 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 16:35:12 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.56.3229e7f (16216) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun
          2002 16:35:03 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m02.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.130]) by
          air-in01.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.13) with ESMTP id MAILININ14-0629163503;
          Sat, 29 Jun 2002 16:35:03 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <2F4A2D83.337AEFE8.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 16:35:03 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: The Great State of TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU> wrote:
>
>Now why did I move here? I am having trouble remembering today.
>
>Oh, yes - not I remember. The Hodges Fund.
>
Well, days behind, but: KY is in a similar situation.  The republican-controlled state senate refused to pass the budget due to campaign finance reform being included.  I mean, come on, this is their job, ferchrissakes.
Compromise.

Meanwhile the governor has said he will run the state anyway.  A constitutional challenge is expected.  We'll see what happens.

jbh

>


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 10:36:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28737
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 10:36:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C43B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 16:50:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12456284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 16:56:10 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5TKuAd23565 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          16:56:10 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-244.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.244]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g5TKu9L253432 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          16:56:09 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEMPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 13:55:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1DC0D3.3D03B902@valstar.net>

Dive in, Alyce !

Sandra

> bonniev wrote:
> >
> > I'll bet it is.  <Everything> is found in your kitchen.  Except maybe
> > fattening human food.  Has your new gain-weight diet helped??
>
> I go to get weighed on Tuesday. I have not been doing much about the
> "diet," except that I have been eating a lot of popcorn. Don't know that
> it is fattening, though. I did buy a half gallon of ice cream yesterday,
> but did not open it.
>
> alyce
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 10:41:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28749
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 10:41:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C4DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 16:55:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12456756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 17:00:31 -0400
Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TL0Vd24028 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:00:31 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.b5.323692f (16239) for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun
          2002 17:00:24 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m31.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by
          air-in03.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.13) with ESMTP id MAILININ33-0629170024;
          Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:00:24 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <6E0CB452.0AC9DCD4.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:00:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      BradleyDale Sighting...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Met with Brad on tuesday as promised.  He's doing well, just busy with homelife, doncha know.  He says he reads every word, everyday.  Also probably watches a lot of movies, though -- unusually -- he didn't mention any to me.  Makes daily forays to the corner of Anniston and Augusta.

I should probably go nomail, but won't.  No days off this week: we've got a consultant coming from Chase Manhattan on Monday and Tuesday.  They support our Bankruptcy Management System.  Federal Court is going entirely to electronic filing, so we all need some training.  Guess we'll devote the 4th to running the farm or some such silliness.

We had a crop of five foals this year (or did I say that already?).  Got to run, I'm in the midst of mowing.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 10:43:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28757
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 10:43:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C597@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 16:57:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12456221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 17:02:58 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TKqwd23376 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 16:52:58 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TKqvOI022438 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 16:52:57 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291649550.19187-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 16:52:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Great State of TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <2F4A2D83.337AEFE8.0099AB05@netscape.net>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, jbh wrote:

>Well, days behind, but: KY is in a similar situation.  The
republican-controlled state senate refused to pass the budget due to
campaign finance reform being included.  I mean, come on, this is their
job, ferchrissakes. >Compromise.
>
>Meanwhile the governor has said he will run the state anyway.  A
constitutional challenge is expected.  We'll see what happens.

I think a large part of our problem is that the Speaker of the Senate is
a 80-year-old who has had the job since 1971!

And then of course there are the usual Rep-Demo games.

I am completely disgusted with all of them. I have tried to write them,
but I cannot write any of them without using so much invective that I dare
not send the message.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 10:48:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28775
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 10:48:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C5E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:02:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12457564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 17:07:42 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe68.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.203]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TL7gd24895 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:07:42 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          29 Jun 2002 14:07:36 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
References:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291428110.18302-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2002 21:07:36.0713 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[FEAB2790:01C21FB0]
Message-ID:  <OE68rvCWO6hm8Ua8d9E000016dc@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 16:06:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> In a city, they would be open until midnight on Saturday - and there would
> be an accupuncturist available.

My heart bleeds for you.

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 10:52:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28779
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 10:52:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C5F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:06:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12457607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 17:12:13 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TLCDd25246 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:12:13 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-135.panax.com
          [63.163.41.135]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5TLCDj24856 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          17:12:13 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291428110.18302-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629170542.00b57600@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:06:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E08D9.7B427EA1@valstar.net>

At 03:22 PM 6/29/2002 -0400, alyce wrote:
>"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
> > In a city, they would be open until midnight on Saturday - and there would
> > be an accupuncturist available.
>
>Or at least an acupuncturist.

Perhaps acupuncturists can heal spelling infirmities.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 11:26:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28847
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 11:26:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C34CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:45:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12458264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 17:45:25 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TLZPd27806 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:35:25 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TLZOOI030201 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:35:24 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291734320.11155-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:35:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      typochondriacs?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I have never seen so many typochondriancs clustered on one list! Oh, well
- we all need leisure activities.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 11:38:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28869
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 11:38:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C672@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:52:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12458431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 17:57:36 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TLvad29059 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:57:36 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-135.panax.com
          [63.163.41.135]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5TLvaj30280 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          17:57:36 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629175104.00b4ccd8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:57:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: typochondriacs?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291734320.11155-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu >

At 05:35 PM 6/29/2002 -0400, bethany grumped:
>I have never seen so many typochondriancs clustered on one list! Oh, well
>- we all need leisure activities.

Some correct their typos and spelling errors---others wander onwards with
the blissfulness that only ignorance or sloth can confer.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 11:57:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28890
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 11:57:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C69D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:11:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12458502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 18:16:20 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TM6Kd29667 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:06:20 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TM6JOI003724;
          Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:06:19 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291803350.20554-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:06:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      ho-hum
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Our 80-year-old Lt. Gov Speaker of the Senate apparently delivered long,
rambling off-point monlogues in Nashville much of the day. And we thought
S. Thurmond was bad!

The first day of Summer Term II is now officially postponed from July 5
to July 8.

Legislators are no closer to a budget than they were a week ago.

I'm glad I don't need a new license tag on Monday!

yuck!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 12:12:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28926
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 12:12:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C6C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:26:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12458722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 18:32:10 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TMWAd31270 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:32:10 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws60-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.60]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5TMW7Q05130
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:32:08 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206290815550.15562-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E3563.830C4CC2@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:32:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> If you do not have the poa (NOT a copy), then for all practical purposes
> you do not have a poa.

That's what I thought, which is why I said I didn't think I could do
something like call a bank and have an account closed.  I have neither
the original nor a copy of the poa.

> >That would be not only tacky but also impractical.  Like what if
> >something suddenly happened to me?
>
> Surely you have given someone a poa???

You mean somebody to have poa over my affairs?  No.  Is it normal to do
that?  Who in the world would I get?

> Natalie, get thee to a lawyer! You NEED one.

Why?  I must admit that I don't fully understand the world of lawyers.
I know that they're important in the lives of criminals or of people
falsely accused of something or people into suing or whatever.  And I
know that largish organizations use lawyers for various purposes.  Our
campus lawyers are absurdly conservative about everything, as I think
I've mentioned before.  But I don't think of lawyers as having any
relevance in my personal life, except for those odd occasions like the
time I think I've told about when I was being harassed by a spurned
lover in Florida and paid a lawyer $10 to tell him to stop and of our
going to a lawyer's academic office on campus (he taught Business Law
part time) to get our no-fault divorce.  Those are the only times I
remember having had occasion to use a lawyer.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 12:21:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28949
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 12:21:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C368F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:40:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12459633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 18:40:22 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TMeMd32520 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:40:22 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws60-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.60]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5TMeJQ06195
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:40:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206290819040.15562-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E374F.692E1294@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:40:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: "State shutdown looms"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> I'll have to go by my office and pick up a few items today - I may be
> forbidden to enter the campus Monday. I normally work in my UT office
> every business day.

I still don't quite understand this thing about being forbidden to go
there.

Speaking of offices, I spent most of today in mine, going through files
and throwing stuff away, trying to decide which books to bring home,
which to give away, etc. etc.  I am not being evicted.  But, as I think
I said earlier, I am most definitely not going to be like my predecessor
in my office, the best office in the department.  I am not going to keep
occupying it as a retired person because I don't think that's right.

I've been much more of a packrat in my office than I am at home.  But I
got pretty ruthless in throwing stuff out today, including all the old
notebooks I'd kept.  In looking through one of them, I had a Bethany
Moment.  In the back of one of my UT notebooks was a list of names with
comments or question marks after them.  One line said this:  "Bethany
Dumas -- check back winter quarter."  I stared at that for ages, trying
to figure out what it meant.  Finally I decided that it must have been
related to my role as the TA in charge of arranging our once-a-month
parties, parties that were sometimes at grad student dwellings,
sometimes at faculty dwellings, and that were attended by both groups,
though they were mainly for grad students.  I bet Bethany was
considering hosting one but told me to check back winter quarter.
Wonder if I did check back.  I have no memory of a Bethany party, so I'm
guessing I must have filled in all the slots without checking back.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 12:22:57 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28956
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 12:22:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C36A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:42:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12459694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 18:42:13 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TMgCd32724 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:42:12 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws60-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.60]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5TMgAQ06397
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:42:10 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206290825380.15562-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E37BE.324B77E4@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:42:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: MIssissippi murder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> NPR is doing a show right now on Mississippi plants that are born to kill.

Plants as in flora or as in industries?  And what does that last part
mean -- born to kill others or born to be killed?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 12:28:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28960
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 12:28:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C80E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:42:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12459792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 18:47:43 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TMlhd00702 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:47:43 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws60-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.60]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5TMlfQ07068
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:47:41 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net> <3D1DB98A.C69B366@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E3909.EAD54438@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:47:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> > That would be not only tacky but also impractical.  Like what if
> > something suddenly happened to me?
>
> Tacky? Oh, please. Then your mother could name your brother instead.

We're both named now, plus my RRSIL.  What I think would be tacky would
be writing up a new one that named just me.

>  In any case, because
> she is of sound mind, she can contact the bank, close the account, get
> duplicate bank statements, and everything else that's needed.

She's not quite up to all that except for signing letters I might
write.  She can still sign her name.  But she certainly couldn't call
the bank, etc. etc.

> I urge you
> to get the bank statements asap.

The first step will be to try to figure out how many banks and how many
accounts are involved.  My RRSIL kept switching things around for some
reason.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 12:31:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28974
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 12:31:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C84B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:45:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12459974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 18:50:24 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TMoOd01096 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:50:24 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws60-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.60]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5TMoMQ07488
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:50:22 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1DBCA4.20704@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E39AA.60C60CDF@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:50:18 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

>         I don't how these things work in the Great State of
> Mississippi, but if something happens to Natalie so that
> she's incapacitated (say, she's hypnotized by a tide of
> rolling flesh and doesn't see Starkville's only cab
> careening around the corner and ends up with a head injury)
> wouldn't that mean her brother would be put in charge of her
> medical and financial affairs?

I don't know.  I guess a brother would be considered "next of kin,"
right?  So it makes sense that he would be named.  Do people have to say
yes to such an assignment?  Like what if he said (and to whom, btw? like
who's the agent in the passive "would be put in charge of"?) a flat no?
Is one required by law to do it?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 12:32:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28978
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 12:32:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C85B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:46:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12460030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 18:52:13 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TMqDd01296 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:52:13 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws60-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.60]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5TMqAQ07846
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:52:11 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1DBCA4.20704@swbell.net> <3D1DBF1E.8BF9AAA0@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E3A17.42D4A0F2@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:52:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> > wouldn't that mean her brother would be put in charge of her
> > medical and financial affairs?
>
> Looks like it. Of course, she could get a PoA. But, nah, it is so tacky.

Oops.  I obviously misread Rita's posting.  I thought she meant my
medical and financial affairs, not my mother's.  Three of us are
supposedly named on my mother's.  So my RRB&SIL would be the two left if
something happened to me.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 12:35:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28985
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 12:35:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C36FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:54:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12460083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 18:54:52 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TMsqd01493 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:54:52 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws60-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.60]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5TMsmQ08112
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:54:48 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100649.009e9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E3AB4.9AE8454@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:54:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> >wouldn't that mean her brother would be put in charge of her
> >medical and financial affairs?  --Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>
> Natalie has already admitted that that would be the case.  And she surmises
> that he will simply throw away all her books which she regrets but yet does
> nothing about.

Hmm.  So you interpreted Rita's posting the same way I did.  Yes, I
worry about the books.  I plan to start giving them to appropriate
recipients before I feel that I'm getting close to death, but I realize
that death isn't always predictable.  What else might I do about it?
Ahh -- this was the will discussion, wasn't it?  I could pay a lawyer to
write a fancy will.  But wouldn't it still have to have an executor?
Who would that be?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 12:58:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29024
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 12:58:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C94C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:12:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12460623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 19:17:20 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TN7Kd02705 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:07:20 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TN7JOI014175 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:07:19 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291903200.11824-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:07:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E3563.830C4CC2@maynor.net>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>You mean somebody to have poa over my affairs?  No.  Is it normal to do
>that?  Who in the world would I get?

Of course it is normal. Most of us select a reasonably intelligent
trustworthy friend.

>I've mentioned before.  But I don't think of lawyers as having any
>relevance in my personal life, except for those odd occasions like the

Most of us think that tax and estate planning issues are important - the
people trained to know the law and help us achieve desired results are
lawyers. What in the hell do you think law students do for about 80 hours
a week for three years?!?

But of course if you want stuff to just fall on the floor or through
the cracks - have at it! It's still a free country with respect to tax and
estate planning.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 13:01:12 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29038
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 13:01:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C380D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:20:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12460682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 19:20:27 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TNARd02916 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:10:27 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TNAQOI014853 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:10:26 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291907300.11824-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:10:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: "State shutdown looms"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E374F.692E1294@maynor.net>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> I'll have to go by my office and pick up a few items today - I may be
>> forbidden to enter the campus Monday. I normally work in my UT office
>> every business day.
>
>I still don't quite understand this thing about being forbidden to go
>there.

I know thaqt you do not believe in liability insurance, so that makes
sense. Probably I will not be ordered not to enter the campus, But I could
be. There will be no insurance in effect after midnight Sunday, probably,
and it I injure someone on the campus in the course of carrying out
university business, UT could be out a pile of money paying a claim. They
have to worry about that.

>Wonder if I did check back.  I have no memory of a Bethany party, so I'm
>guessing I must have filled in all the slots without checking back.

You missed the half-calf roast on Atlantic Avenue? Too bad ...

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 13:01:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29044
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 13:01:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C966@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:15:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12460716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 19:21:03 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TNB3d03024 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:11:03 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TNB2OI014938 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:11:02 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291910350.11824-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:11:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: MIssissippi murder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E37BE.324B77E4@maynor.net>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> NPR is doing a show right now on Mississippi plants that are born to kill.
>
>Plants as in flora or as in industries?  And what does that last part
>mean -- born to kill others or born to be killed?

Flora. Born to kill others. Murderers!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 13:03:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29050
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 13:03:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3C976@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:17:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12460738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 19:22:58 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TNCwd03162 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:12:58 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TNCvOI015239 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:12:57 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291912170.11824-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:12:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E3AB4.9AE8454@maynor.net>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>Ahh -- this was the will discussion, wasn't it?  I could pay a lawyer to
>write a fancy will.  But wouldn't it still have to have an executor?
>Who would that be?

If you will send us a detailed list of reasonably intelligent trustworthy
friends of yours, we will select all these people for you.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 13:36:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29085
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 13:36:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CA0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:50:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12461487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 19:56:01 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TNu1d06294 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:56:01 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-54.panax.com
          [65.114.190.54]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5TNu0j11993 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          19:56:00 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100649.009e9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629195357.00a07840@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:55:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E3AB4.9AE8454@maynor.net>

 >What else might I do about it?
>Ahh -- this was the will discussion, wasn't it?  I could pay a lawyer to
>write a fancy will.  But wouldn't it still have to have an executor?
>Who would that be?     -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

You could name the lawyer that the local humane society usually uses.  If
you left everything to them, they might well be happy enough to deal with
things: sell the houses, etc.  I intend to do that with the Nature
Conservancy.  I'm sure they have a ton of lawyers.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 13:48:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29107
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 13:48:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CA4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:02:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12461574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:07:41 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5TNved06541 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:57:41 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B3AC9B2 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:57:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g5TNve527320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:57:40
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291734320.11155-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu >
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629175104.00b4ccd8@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020629185740.A27306@pobox.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:57:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: typochondriacs?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629175104.00b4ccd8@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 05:57:23PM -0400

On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 05:57:23PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> At 05:35 PM 6/29/2002 -0400, bethany grumped:
> >I have never seen so many typochondriancs clustered on one list! Oh, well
> >- we all need leisure activities.
>
> Some correct their typos and spelling errors---others wander onwards with
> the blissfulness that only ignorance or sloth can confer.

Ambrose Beirce you ain't ... and he was pretty lame

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 13:55:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29127
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 13:55:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CA73@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:09:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12461900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:14:56 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0Eud07979 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:14:56 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws161-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.161]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U0ErQ19507
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:14:54 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D1DDCF5.BC43108F@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E4D79.A028B118@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:14:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: so as not to offend
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I did mention, didn't I, that I saw a hunchbank I'd known at camp years
ago walking right along a sidewalk beside Notre Dame?  I found out later
that I wasn't just imagining it.  I mentioned it to somebody who knew
her, who found out that she had indeed been in Paris at that time and
had gone to Notre Dame.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:02:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29143
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:02:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C3A30@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:21:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12461987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:21:52 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0Lqd08435 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:21:52 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws161-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.161]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U0LnQ20438
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:21:49 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020629100043.00a2ed10@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E4F19.9048D000@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:21:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:
>
> One googled article said:
>
> Tanning beds are as
>                                        damaging as the real thing
>                                        -- and in some respects,
>                                   maybe even more so. There are

Why are we discussing tanning beds all of a sudden?  I thought they were
a no-brainer.  Why would it take googling to know that skin that changes
colors does so because it's damaged skin?

I spent many years damaging my skin (though not through fake means -- I
just was out in the real sun too much).  My mother kept telling me I'd
regret it.  I do, every time I have to go have another skin cancer
zapped away.  I never did understand the point of lying out in the sun
just to change your skin color.  My sun times were because there were
lots of things I liked doing outside, and I just accepted the sun
factor.

Anyway, why this topic?  I think tanning beds should be against the law
since things like motorcycle helmets are required.  Iow, if we're going
to have laws to protect people from their ignorance, tanning beds strike
me as a logical prohibition to have.  (I should point out that I'm not
necessarily in favor of having laws to protect people from their own
stupidity.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:03:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29150
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:03:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CA94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:17:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:22:53 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0Mrd08529 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:22:53 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust145.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.147]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004893076@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:22:53 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net> <3D1DB98A.C69B366@valstar.net>
            <3D1E3909.EAD54438@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E4F9F.382444E2@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:23:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
> >
> We're both named now, plus my RRSIL.

If you don't have a piece of paper in your possession, you don't have a
PoA that is good for anything.

> What I think would be tacky would
> be writing up a new one that named just me.

Tacky, maybe, but practical.

> She's not quite up to all that except for signing letters I might
> write.  She can still sign her name.

Good. Then write the letters.

> The first step will be to try to figure out how many banks and how many
> accounts are involved.  My RRSIL kept switching things around for some
> reason.

Is your mother's mail being forwarded to her/you?
If not, it should be. If it is, then you will find out the bank info
that you don't have, if any.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:04:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29154
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:04:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CA97@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:18:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:23:16 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0NFd08560 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:23:15 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws161-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.161]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U0NDQ20681
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:23:13 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <6E0CB452.0AC9DCD4.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E4F6D.AB98C6B3@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:23:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: BradleyDale Sighting...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

jbh wrote:
>  He says he reads every word, everyday.

How tacky of him not to speak when spoken to!!  I'm feeling
disillusioned!

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:08:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29158
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:08:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CAA6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:22:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:27:34 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0RYd08912 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:27:34 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws161-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.161]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U0RVQ21266
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:27:32 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291903200.11824-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E5070.9B1530B2@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:27:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >You mean somebody to have poa over my affairs?  No.  Is it normal to do
> >that?  Who in the world would I get?
>
> Of course it is normal. Most of us select a reasonably intelligent
> trustworthy friend.

Hmm.  I had no idea that most people had people assigned poa.  I'm
feeling mutant again.  By "normal" do you mean like 99% of the US
population have designated someone with pol or 80% or what?  Iow, how
mutant am I?

> Most of us think that tax and estate planning issues are important - the
> people trained to know the law and help us achieve desired results are
> lawyers. What in the hell do you think law students do for about 80 hours
> a week for three years?!?

I don't know.  But I must admit that I don't really consider tax and
estate planning all that important.

> But of course if you want stuff to just fall on the floor or through
> the cracks - have at it! It's still a free country with respect to tax and
> estate planning.

Can I assign poa to Words-L?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:11:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29170
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:11:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CAB4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:25:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12461978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:30:21 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0KLd08374 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:20:21 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5U0KKOI028177 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:20:20 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292018210.12215-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:20:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: so as not to offend
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E4D79.A028B118@maynor.net>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I did mention, didn't I, that I saw a hunchbank I'd known at camp years
>ago walking right along a sidewalk beside Notre Dame?  I found out later
>that I wasn't just imagining it.  I mentioned it to somebody who knew
>her, who found out that she had indeed been in Paris at that time and
>had gone to Notre Dame.

I'm sorry. This statement is not politically correct. The new term, as
we surely all know by now, is <bellringer>. See any current news
site. There are no hunchbacks in this world - probably there never were
any.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:14:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29180
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:14:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CABE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:28:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:33:28 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0XSd09355 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:33:28 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws161-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.161]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U0X4Q22038
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:33:26 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291907300.11824-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E51BD.1D7C4A7C@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:33:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: "State shutdown looms"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> I know thaqt you do not believe in liability insurance, so that makes

I'm not sure what you mean.  I have liability insurance on my car and on
my house.  But I've never personally known of a case where anybody sued
somebody in a liability-insurance sort of way.  That does not mean that
I would drop it from my car or house.

> sense. Probably I will not be ordered not to enter the campus, But I could
> be. There will be no insurance in effect after midnight Sunday, probably,
> and it I injure someone on the campus in the course of carrying out
> university business, UT could be out a pile of money paying a claim. They
> have to worry about that.

How might you injure someone on campus in the course of carrying out
university business??  This is the part I find interesting.  Like would
it be held against the university instead of against you personally if
you rushed up and knifed somebody on campus and claimed it was because
he was blocking your way to the xerox machine you needed to get to to
perform university business?

> >Wonder if I did check back.  I have no memory of a Bethany party, so I'm
> >guessing I must have filled in all the slots without checking back.
>
> You missed the half-calf roast on Atlantic Avenue? Too bad ...

I don't remember missing any parties at all in my two years there.  When
was the half-calf roast?  I remember going to a goat roast somewhere in
Kville, but I think it was at a graduate student's house.  I was there
from Aug. '74 until Aug. '76.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:15:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29196
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:15:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CAC1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:29:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:34:21 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0YLd09467 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:34:21 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws161-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.161]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U0YJQ22277
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:34:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291910350.11824-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E5207.4F14701C@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:34:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: MIssissippi murder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >Plants as in flora or as in industries?  And what does that last part
> >mean -- born to kill others or born to be killed?
>
> Flora. Born to kill others. Murderers!

Were specific kinds mentioned?  Or how they do the killing?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:16:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29200
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:16:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C3A79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:35:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:35:33 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0Z7d09536 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:35:07 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws161-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.161]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U0Z4Q22381
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:35:04 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291912170.11824-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E5234.45C7EF6@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:35:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> If you will send us a detailed list of reasonably intelligent trustworthy
> friends of yours, we will select all these people for you.

I can't think of anybody that I would be willing to impose upon.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:17:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29209
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:17:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C3A80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:36:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:36:59 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0axd09609 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:36:59 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws161-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.161]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U0auQ22641
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:36:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100649.009e9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629195357.00a07840@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E52A5.DC6442E1@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:36:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> You could name the lawyer that the local humane society usually uses.  If

Why would the Humane Society use a lawyer?  I've missed lots and lots of
meetings in the past good many months, but in all the budget reports
I've seen I've never seen any mention of a lawyer.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:20:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29213
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:20:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C3A8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:39:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:39:51 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0dod09837 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:39:50 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws161-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.161]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U0dmQ22997
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:39:49 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net> <3D1DB98A.C69B366@valstar.net>
            <3D1E3909.EAD54438@maynor.net> <3D1E4F9F.382444E2@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E5350.B06D1E3A@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:39:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Is your mother's mail being forwarded to her/you?

Yes.  It was because of the mail-forwarding that I saw the nightmare.

> If not, it should be. If it is, then you will find out the bank info
> that you don't have, if any.

I've noticed through some things my RRSIL has sent me that some of the
financial mail never went to my mother -- that it went to my RRSIL's
address.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:24:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29220
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:24:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CADF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:38:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:43:16 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe19.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0hFd10216 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:43:15 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          29 Jun 2002 17:43:10 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.69]
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2002 00:43:10.0323 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[1BB36C30:01C21FCF]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <OE195U9T3TGJ2TUSzbA00001724@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:44:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: typochondriacs?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Ambrose Beirce you ain't ... and he was pretty lame

Bierce.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:28:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29234
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:28:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CAE3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:42:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:47:19 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0lJd10498 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:47:19 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020630004713.JGUM8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 00:47:13 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGMEHKFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:49:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a04310103b9427577acb2@[192.168.1.1]>

> Ed Harris *was* terrific. Although I still have trouble looking at
> him and not seeing John Glenn.

John Glenn? Cripes, every time I see Ed Harris, I only see Patsy Cline's
husband, Charlie Dick.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:29:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29238
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:29:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C3AC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:48:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:48:13 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0mDd10564 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:48:13 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-135.panax.com
          [63.163.41.135]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5U0mDj18151 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          20:48:13 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629204709.00b4edd0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:47:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: typochondriacs?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE195U9T3TGJ2TUSzbA00001724@hotmail.com>

At 07:44 PM 6/29/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:
> > Ambrose Beirce you ain't ... and he was pretty lame
>
>Bierce.
>
>AS

[chuckle]

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:30:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29247
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:30:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CAF9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:44:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:49:33 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0nXd10681 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:49:33 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust145.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.147]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003586319@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:49:33 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100649.009e9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629195357.00a07840@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1E52A5.DC6442E1@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E55DB.CDEA9C9@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:50:35 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> bonniev wrote:
>
> > You could name the lawyer that the local humane society usually uses.  If
>
> Why would the Humane Society use a lawyer?  I've missed lots and lots of
> meetings in the past good many months, but in all the budget reports
> I've seen I've never seen any mention of a lawyer.

They must have a lawyer. Think of all the reasons they need one. If
someone were bitten or mauled when coming to look for a pet, the shelter
would be sued. They would need a lawyer, for instance. Perhaps there is
a line item on the financial report that says "Professional Fees"? Or
perhaps a nice lawyer is donating his/her services.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:30:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29251
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:30:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CAFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:44:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:50:07 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0e7d09898 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:40:07 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5U0e6OI031268 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:40:06 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292038410.12215-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:40:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E5234.45C7EF6@maynor.net>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> If you will send us a detailed list of reasonably intelligent trustworthy
>> friends of yours, we will select all these people for you.
>
>I can't think of anybody that I would be willing to impose upon.

Thank you for reminding me that we live in different universes. Mine is
one in which mutual help, imposition, obligtion, and reception are
ordinary, usual, and positive. I don't at all understand the universe
that you live in. I really don't.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:31:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29255
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:31:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CB01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:45:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:50:38 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0ocd10769 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:50:38 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-135.panax.com
          [63.163.41.135]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5U0ocj18496 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          20:50:38 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <a04310103b9427577acb2@[192.168.1.1]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629204914.00b638f8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:50:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGMEHKFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

At 08:49 PM 6/29/2002 -0400, adam wrote:
> > Ed Harris *was* terrific. Although I still have trouble looking at
> > him and not seeing John Glenn.
>
>John Glenn? Cripes, every time I see Ed Harris, I only see Patsy Cline's
>husband, Charlie Dick.

Every time I see him, I think of Ambrose Bierce's evil twin, Ambrose
Beirce, whom Tushar thinks is lame.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:31:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29259
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:31:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CB03@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:45:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:51:05 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0f5d10002 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:41:05 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5U0f4OI031409 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:41:04 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292040290.12215-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:41:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: "State shutdown looms"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E51BD.1D7C4A7C@maynor.net>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> You missed the half-calf roast on Atlantic Avenue? Too bad ...
>
>I don't remember missing any parties at all in my two years there.  When
>was the half-calf roast?  I remember going to a goat roast somewhere in
>Kville, but I think it was at a graduate student's house.  I was there
>from Aug. '74 until Aug. '76.

You left too early!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:31:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29263
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:31:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CB04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:45:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:51:10 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe56.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.191]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0pAd10810 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:51:10 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          29 Jun 2002 17:51:04 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.69]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2002 00:51:04.0836 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[36885C40:01C21FD0]
Message-ID:  <OE560b5EeleupIhCzIS00001766@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:52:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> I spent many years damaging my skin (though not through fake means -- I
just was out in the real sun too much).

I wasn't stupid enough to do that during the 16 years residing in
Mediterranian/Caribbean climes, and still haven't achieved such a level.

I do like a light blast to zap away a few facial zits and for a smoother ass
and legs, though. And as Janet says, it makes me feel good.

:).

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:35:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29267
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:34:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CB10@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:48:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:54:12 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0iCd10291 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:44:12 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5U0iBOI032007 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:44:12 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292042250.12215-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:44:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: "State shutdown looms"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E51BD.1D7C4A7C@maynor.net>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>my house.  But I've never personally known of a case where anybody sued
>somebody in a liability-insurance sort of way.  That does not mean that
>I would drop it from my car or house.

It happens every day.

>How might you injure someone on campus in the course of carrying out
>university business??  This is the part I find interesting.  Like would
>it be held against the university instead of against you personally if
>you rushed up and knifed somebody on campus and claimed it was because
>he was blocking your way to the xerox machine you needed to get to to
>perform university business?

Probably not. That is a criminal action. But suppose I accidentally
dropped a ton of paper on top of a sec'y? Worker's comp MIGHT take care
of it - but the sec'y might decide to sue. If I had done that while
carrying out univ. business, the univ. could be liable, rather than me.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:36:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29274
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:36:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CB15@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:50:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:55:15 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0tFd11274 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:55:15 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5U0tEtr025220 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:55:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020629100043.00a2ed10@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020629175846.00aeb2f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:59:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E4F19.9048D000@maynor.net>

At 07:21 PM 6/29/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>.Anyway, why this topic?  I think tanning beds should be against the law
>since things like motorcycle helmets are required.  Iow, if we're going
>to have laws to protect people from their ignorance, tanning beds strike
>me as a logical prohibition to have.  (I should point out that I'm not
>necessarily in favor of having laws to protect people from their own
>stupidity.)
>
>--
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Janet likes them but she knows they are evil. Amy is getting bronzed.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:36:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29278
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:36:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CB16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:50:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:55:17 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0jGd10365 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:45:16 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5U0jFOI032352 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:45:15 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292044210.12215-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:45:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: typochondriacs?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE195U9T3TGJ2TUSzbA00001724@hotmail.com>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Amy Burns Short wrote:

>> Ambrose Beirce you ain't ... and he was pretty lame
>
>Bierce.

So everything on the list is contagious? Does that mean that I will start
nitpicking about type os soon?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:40:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29282
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:40:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C3B1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:00:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:00:10 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U0o9d10727 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:50:09 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD91BECC for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:50:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g5U0o9M27616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:50:09
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <OE195U9T3TGJ2TUSzbA00001724@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629204709.00b4edd0@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020629195009.A27597@pobox.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:50:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: typochondriacs?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629204709.00b4edd0@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 08:47:55PM -0400

On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 08:47:55PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> At 07:44 PM 6/29/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:
> > > Ambrose Beirce you ain't ... and he was pretty lame
> >
> >Bierce.
> >
> >AS
>
> [chuckle]

Those should be braces, idiot

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:41:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29285
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:40:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CB41@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:54:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:00:10 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U10Ad11845 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:00:10 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust145.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.147]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003586416@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:00:10 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE195U9T3TGJ2TUSzbA00001724@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E585C.F6C73CDE@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:01:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: typochondriacs?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:
>
> > Ambrose Beirce you ain't ... and he was pretty lame
>
> Bierce.

Good, Amy. I was controlling myself.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:42:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29294
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:42:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CB4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:56:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:01:31 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U11Vd11988 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:01:31 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5U11Utr007275 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:01:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D1E5234.45C7EF6@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020629180457.00ad9320@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:05:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292038410.12215-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu >

At 08:40 PM 6/29/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> >> If you will send us a detailed list of reasonably intelligent trustworthy
> >> friends of yours, we will select all these people for you.
> >
> >I can't think of anybody that I would be willing to impose upon.
>
>Thank you for reminding me that we live in different universes. Mine is
>one in which mutual help, imposition, obligtion, and reception are
>ordinary, usual, and positive. I don't at all understand the universe
>that you live in. I really don't.
.
Why don't you just do her will? Charge her so she is no imposing.

BB

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:46:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29306
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:46:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C3B43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:05:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:05:47 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U15ld12207 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:05:47 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-135.panax.com
          [63.163.41.135]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5U15lj20454 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          21:05:47 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020629204709.00b4edd0@mail.panax.com>
            <OE195U9T3TGJ2TUSzbA00001724@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629204709.00b4edd0@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629210404.00b59e68@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:05:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: typochondriacs?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020629195009.A27597@pobox.com>

At 07:50 PM 6/29/2002 -0500, tushar muttered:
>On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 08:47:55PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> > At 07:44 PM 6/29/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:
> > > > Ambrose Beirce you ain't ... and he was pretty lame
> > >
> > >Bierce.
> > >
> > >AS
> >
> > [chuckle]
>
>Those should be braces, idiot

Only in your world, oh you who does not use a full stop.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:48:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29312
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:48:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CB5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:02:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:07:18 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U17Id12286 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:07:18 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYH001H5V461L@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:07:18 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100649.009e9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1E3AB4.9AE8454@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D1E5971.3090405@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:05:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> bonniev wrote:
>
>
>>>wouldn't that mean her brother would be put in charge of her
>>>medical and financial affairs?  --Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>>>
>>Natalie has already admitted that that would be the case.  And she surmises
>>that he will simply throw away all her books which she regrets but yet does
>>nothing about.
>>
>
> Hmm.  So you interpreted Rita's posting the same way I did.  Yes, I
> worry about the books.  I plan to start giving them to appropriate
> recipients before I feel that I'm getting close to death, but I realize
> that death isn't always predictable.  What else might I do about it?
> Ahh -- this was the will discussion, wasn't it?  I could pay a lawyer to
> write a fancy will.  But wouldn't it still have to have an executor?
> Who would that be?


        I'm not really worried about your books.  I'm more worried
about your dogs.  I think your RRs would simply take them to
the pound.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:51:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29323
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:51:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CB65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:05:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:11:00 -0400
Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5U1B0d12438 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          21:11:00 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #2) id 17OTEx-0007Pp-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 18:10:59 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020629100043.00a2ed10@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D1E4F19.9048D000@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a0501042bb94409a5e66b@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:07:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E4F19.9048D000@maynor.net>

>Anyway, why this topic?  I think tanning beds should be against the law
>since things like motorcycle helmets are required.  Iow, if we're going
>to have laws to protect people from their ignorance, tanning beds strike
>me as a logical prohibition to have.  (I should point out that I'm not
>necessarily in favor of having laws to protect people from their own
>stupidity.)

I use them primarily to prepare for a trip to someplace with strong
sun. My creamy San Francisco complexion can hurt me badly if I'm in,
say, Miami, and haven't managed to acquire a base tan. I have to
believe that a gradual medium tan is better for me than a
second-degree burn.

And, unlike you, I love the way it looks. However, I don't love it
enough to use tanning beds on a regular basis -- although I genuinely
wish I could.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 14:52:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29330
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 14:52:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CB66@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:06:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:12:08 -0400
Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5U1C8d12506 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          21:12:08 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #2) id 17OTG3-0000aJ-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 18:12:08 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291907300.11824-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D1E51BD.1D7C4A7C@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a0501042cb9440a550fd0@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:08:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: "State shutdown looms"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E51BD.1D7C4A7C@maynor.net>

>"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
>  > sense. Probably I will not be ordered not to enter the campus, But I could
>>  be. There will be no insurance in effect after midnight Sunday, probably,
>>  and it I injure someone on the campus in the course of carrying out
>>  university business, UT could be out a pile of money paying a claim. They
>>  have to worry about that.
>
>How might you injure someone on campus in the course of carrying out
>university business??  This is the part I find interesting.  Like would
>it be held against the university instead of against you personally if
>you rushed up and knifed somebody on campus and claimed it was because
>he was blocking your way to the xerox machine you needed to get to to
>perform university business?

She could hit someone with her car or bike. She could bump into a
person and knock them down and injure them. Someone could slip and
fall in her office. Etc., etc.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:11:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29496
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:11:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CBBD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:25:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:30:20 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U1UKd13459 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:30:20 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g5U1UIp06043 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:30:18 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206292030010.6032-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:30:18 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: typochondriacs?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291734320.11155-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> I have never seen so many typochondriancs clustered on one list! Oh, well
> - we all need leisure activities.

How's your knee?

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:15:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29513
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:15:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CBCF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:28:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:34:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U1Y1d13631 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:34:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2BABA830B; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 18:34:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630013401.2BABA830B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:34:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629130055.009fd420@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jun 29, 2002  1: 2:37 pm"

>In addition to snails, worms, and grass, I have no loose floorboards in
>my kitchen, and if I did, it would only take him into the basement where
>there also are no snails, worms, or grass.      --alyce

I found some dead worms behind my stereo today.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:16:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29517
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:16:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CBE1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:30:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:35:43 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U1Zhd13963 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:35:43 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYH001V0WFI18@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:35:42 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <4.2.2.20020629100043.00a2ed10@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D1E4F19.9048D000@maynor.net>
            <a0501042bb94409a5e66b@[192.168.1.100]>
Message-ID:  <3D1E6019.1020008@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:34:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

At the moment, I'm far more tan than I usually get for an
entire summer.  I've been using 50 SPF, but I get some color
through it anyway when we're out on the boat*.  I'm usually
good for one blister-burn a year.  Yes, I know I'm skin
cancer waiting to happen, Miss BB.

* We nearly sunk the boat upon launching, but we did manage
to pick up a cute blonde out on the sandbar.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:18:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29523
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:18:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CBE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:31:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:37:14 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U1REd13303 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:27:14 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5U0fvOI031584 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:41:57 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292041300.12215-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:41:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E5070.9B1530B2@maynor.net>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I don't know.  But I must admit that I don't really consider tax and
>estate planning all that important.
>
>> But of course if you want stuff to just fall on the floor or through
>> the cracks - have at it! It's still a free country with respect to tax and
>> estate planning.
>
>Can I assign poa to Words-L?

Your lawyer will explain all this to you.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:19:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29530
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:19:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CBF9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:33:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:38:53 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U1crd14188 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:38:53 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-7.panax.com [65.114.190.7])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U1cqj24793 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:38:53 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100649.009e9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629195357.00a07840@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629213516.00a0d5a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:38:42 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E52A5.DC6442E1@maynor.net>

>Why would the Humane Society use a lawyer?  I've missed lots and lots of
>meetings in the past good many months, but in all the budget reports
>I've seen I've never seen any mention of a lawyer.
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Even the Oak Ridge Rowing Association had a lawyer.  He looked over a lease
for us before we signed it.  He did it pro bono.   His name never appeared
on any budget reports.  Then, when we were cited for putting on a regatta
without a permit, that same lawyer gave us advice which was to plead nola
contendre, or however that is spelled.  I would think a Humane Society
might have a lawyer friend on call just in case legal advice might be
needed or to handle the estate of someone who willed all they had to help
the society.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:27:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29539
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:27:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CC28@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:41:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:46:49 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U1knd14662 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:46:49 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws160-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.160]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U1klQ01880
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:46:47 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100649.009e9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629195357.00a07840@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1E52A5.DC6442E1@maynor.net> <3D1E55DB.CDEA9C9@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E62D2.73B75A5A@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:45:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> They must have a lawyer. Think of all the reasons they need one. If
> someone were bitten or mauled when coming to look for a pet, the shelter
> would be sued. They would need a lawyer, for instance.

But note your "if."  I can think of lots of ifs that might make me need
to hire a lawyer, but that does not mean that I <have> a lawyer.  I feel
quite sure (can find out for definitely sure) that the OCHS doesn't
"have" a lawyer.  If something happened, one could be hired for that
situation.

> Perhaps there is
> a line item on the financial report that says "Professional Fees"? Or

No.

> perhaps a nice lawyer is donating his/her services.

Afaik, there have been no law suits against the shelter at this point.
If one should arise, then I feel sure that a lawyer would be hired for
the occasion (or one would donate the time).

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:29:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29546
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:29:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C3D04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:48:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:48:12 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U1mCd14766 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:48:12 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws160-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.160]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U1mAQ02080
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:48:10 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292038410.12215-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E6356.E16DD2DC@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:48:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >I can't think of anybody that I would be willing to impose upon.
>
> Thank you for reminding me that we live in different universes. Mine is
> one in which mutual help, imposition, obligtion, and reception are
> ordinary, usual, and positive. I don't at all understand the universe
> that you live in. I really don't.

I think we've had this discussion before.  I never ask anybody to do
anything for me.  (I hire people to do things for me, of course.  I mean
I don't ask anybody to do something as a favor.  Never have.  It's just
not in me to do so.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:31:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29559
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:31:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CC3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:45:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:50:38 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U1obd14913 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:50:37 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws160-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.160]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U1oZQ02427
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:50:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE560b5EeleupIhCzIS00001766@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E63E7.3C081E3E@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:50:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:

> I do like a light blast to zap away a few facial zits and for a smoother ass
> and legs, though. And as Janet says, it makes me feel good.

I think I don't understand what tanning beds are.  I thought they were
like sun-lamp situations -- something to cause your skin to change color
-- i.e., to exhibit damage.  I didn't know these beds smoothed asses and
legs.  I'm also not really sure what that means.  How do asses and legs
get smoother?  And what were they like before they were smoothed --
hilly?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:32:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29563
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:32:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CC3E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:46:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:51:58 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U1pwd14946 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:51:58 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws160-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.160]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U1puQ02649
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:51:56 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292042250.12215-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E6438.18613C31@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:51:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: "State shutdown looms"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> Probably not. That is a criminal action. But suppose I accidentally
> dropped a ton of paper on top of a sec'y? Worker's comp MIGHT take care
> of it - but the sec'y might decide to sue. If I had done that while
> carrying out univ. business, the univ. could be liable, rather than me.

We do indeed live in different universes.

Should I be worried now that I'm retired?  Like what if I accidentally
drop a ton of paper on top of a sec'y?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:33:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29567
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:33:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CC40@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:47:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:52:23 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U1qNd15002 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:52:23 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-53.panax.com [63.163.41.53])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U1qNj26488 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:52:23 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292038410.12215-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629215042.009faec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:52:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E6356.E16DD2DC@maynor.net>

>I never ask anybody to do
>anything for me.  (I hire people to do things for me, of course.  I mean
>I don't ask anybody to do something as a favor.  Never have.  It's just
>not in me to do so.)     -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

As I've pointed out, I never did when I lived in the South either.  But now
I do.  I find it feels good to ask, receive, and give favors.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:36:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29571
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:36:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CC55@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:50:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:55:28 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U1tSd15195 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:55:28 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws160-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.160]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U1tQQ03226
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:55:26 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100649.009e9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1E3AB4.9AE8454@maynor.net> <3D1E5971.3090405@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E650A.D8A4845F@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:55:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

>         I'm not really worried about your books.  I'm more worried
> about your dogs.  I think your RRs would simply take them to
> the pound.

That's where they both came from -- not both in this town, of course --
Buddy came from a shelter in Birmingham.  (And Spencer was never
actually in the shelter here -- he was in foster care from the beginning
because the shelter was full.)  So who should I will them to?  My mother
and I have agreed for many years that if something happened to one of
us, the other would take the dog(s).  But now that that's not a likely
solution, what do you suggest?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:38:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29578
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:38:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CC6B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:52:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463761 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 21:57:53 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U1vrd15318 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:57:53 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws160-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.160]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U1voQ03607
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:57:50 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291907300.11824-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D1E51BD.1D7C4A7C@maynor.net>
            <a0501042cb9440a550fd0@[192.168.1.100]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E659A.FF86BCF3@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:57:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: "State shutdown looms"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Janet Hardy wrote:

> She could hit someone with her car or bike. She could bump into a
> person and knock them down and injure them. Someone could slip and
> fall in her office. Etc., etc.

As I said earlier, should I be worried?  All those things could happen
to me.  I didn't realize that there would be a difference, though, if I
were retired.  It had never occurred to me to think that the university
would be liable if I ran over a pedestrian while driving through campus.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:41:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29585
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:41:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CC88@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:55:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:00:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U20Td15551 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:00:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws160-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.160]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U20QQ03974
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:00:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020629100043.00a2ed10@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D1E4F19.9048D000@maynor.net>
            <a0501042bb94409a5e66b@[192.168.1.100]>
            <3D1E6019.1020008@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E6637.162C3A74@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:00:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> At the moment, I'm far more tan than I usually get for an
> entire summer.  I've been using 50 SPF, but I get some color
> through it anyway when we're out on the boat*.  I'm usually
> good for one blister-burn a year.  Yes, I know I'm skin
> cancer waiting to happen, Miss BB.

I should point out that I also change color in the summer because of the
various things I do outside.  I'm not willing to give them up.  I just
find it odd to think that somebody would seek the damage rather than
simply enduring it as a side-effect.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:41:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29592
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:41:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CC8C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:55:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:00:50 -0400
Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.84]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5U20nd15566 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002
          22:00:49 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #2) id 17OU1A-0005Re-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 19:00:49 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <OE560b5EeleupIhCzIS00001766@hotmail.com>
            <3D1E63E7.3C081E3E@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a0501042eb94415cfb4f5@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:56:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E63E7.3C081E3E@maynor.net>

>Amy Burns Short wrote:
>
>>  I do like a light blast to zap away a few facial zits and for a smoother ass
>>  and legs, though. And as Janet says, it makes me feel good.
>
>I think I don't understand what tanning beds are.  I thought they were
>like sun-lamp situations -- something to cause your skin to change color
>-- i.e., to exhibit damage.  I didn't know these beds smoothed asses and
>legs.  I'm also not really sure what that means.  How do asses and legs
>get smoother?  And what were they like before they were smoothed --
>hilly?

Dimples and minor imperfections tend to show up less on darker skin.

Hilly Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:42:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29596
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:42:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CC98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:56:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:02:01 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U221d15698 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:02:01 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYH0013NXNC1A@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:02:01 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <OE560b5EeleupIhCzIS00001766@hotmail.com>
            <3D1E63E7.3C081E3E@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D1E6644.9030808@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:00:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Amy Burns Short wrote:
>
>
>>I do like a light blast to zap away a few facial zits and for a smoother ass
>>and legs, though. And as Janet says, it makes me feel good.
>>
>
> I think I don't understand what tanning beds are.  I thought they were
> like sun-lamp situations -- something to cause your skin to change color
> -- i.e., to exhibit damage.  I didn't know these beds smoothed asses and
> legs.  I'm also not really sure what that means.  How do asses and legs
> get smoother?  And what were they like before they were smoothed --
> hilly?
>

        Sometimes the cellulite dimples are little grey down in the
valleys.  Maybe a tan evens out the skin tone enough to mask
the ripples a bit.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:45:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29605
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:45:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CCB2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:59:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:05:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U259d15872 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:05:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws160-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.160]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U254Q04740
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:05:05 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100649.009e9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629195357.00a07840@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629213516.00a0d5a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E674C.4735E98A@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:05:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> I would think a Humane Society
> might have a lawyer friend on call just in case legal advice might be
> needed or to handle the estate of someone who willed all they had to help
> the society.

Is having a lawyer on call different from calling a lawyer if a need
occurs?  I think that's where I'm having difficulty with this idea.  I
feel sure that the OCHS would call a lawyer if a need arose.  So would
I.  But I don't <have> a lawyer.  What does having a [whatever] on call
really mean?  This is an interesting (to me) words question.  I have of
course heard the expression all my life.  But I suddenly realize that I
don't know exactly what it means.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:47:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29609
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:47:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CCBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:01:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:06:41 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U26fd15939 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:06:41 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws160-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.160]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5U26cQ05068
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:06:39 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292038410.12215-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629215042.009faec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E67AB.19BE3B30@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:06:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> As I've pointed out, I never did when I lived in the South either.  But now
> I do.  I find it feels good to ask, receive, and give favors.

So what made you change?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:50:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29613
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:50:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CCCF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:04:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:09:57 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U29vd16274 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:09:57 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-53.panax.com [63.163.41.53])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U29vj28714 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:09:57 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292038410.12215-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629215042.009faec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629220805.00a12a90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:09:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E67AB.19BE3B30@maynor.net>

>bonniev wrote:
> > As I've pointed out, I never did when I lived in the South either.  But now
> > I do.  I find it feels good to ask, receive, and give favors.
>
>So what made you change?
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

The fact that I now believe people when they say they would be happy to
help.  I am back in a similar culture to that of my childhood and I know
how to behave and who to trust.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:54:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29650
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:54:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CCE3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:08:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:13:26 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe22.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.79]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U2DPd16598 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:13:25 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          29 Jun 2002 19:13:20 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2002 02:13:20.0409 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[B45D0890:01C21FDB]
Message-ID:  <OE22DN4CxpAOAkK5LqN00001822@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:14:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Dimples and minor imperfections tend to show up less on darker skin.


>Hilly Janet

In my own case I was referring to enhanced skin texture, rather than things
showing.

Smooth Amy

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:54:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29657
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:54:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CCE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:08:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:14:03 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U243d15802 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:04:03 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5U242OI020316 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:04:02 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292155210.22077-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:04:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020629180457.00ad9320@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Betty wrote:

>Why don't you just do her will? Charge her so she is no imposing.

I'm not certain to whom this is addressed. Moi? As I have said, I am not
currently licensed to practice law in the state of TN - and I have never
been licensed in the state of Mississippi. It is illegal to practice law
without a license.

It seems to me that what is happening here is that Natalie is requesting
legal advice - but she is not requesting it from competent
authority. Natalie, you should never take legal advice from people not
competent to give it.

A long time ago, when I was licensed in Tennessee, a casual friend from
church invited me to dinner on night. As we ate, she asked me if I would
draw up a will for her. I agreed to do so. She wanted to know how much it
would cost. I was familiar with local prices for that and quoted her one
at the low end. She was outraged and wanted me to do it for half that. She
demanded to know why it would cost so much. "After all," she said, "You
went to law school. You know how to do this." Well, yes - duh! Otherwise,
she would not have been asking.

I explained that one of the things she was buying was my assuming
responsibility for seeing that her wishes were carried out - i.e., that I
would draw up the will so that her preferrred disposition of property
would in fact take place. She balked. I would not lower my price. Finally,
I told her how to write a holograph will and wished her well - and paid
for my own dinner.

(For a while, I did draw up wills for no charge for department
colleagues.)

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:57:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29661
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:57:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C3E2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:16:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:16:19 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U26Jd15930 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:06:19 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5U26IOI020716 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:06:18 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292204520.22077-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:06:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: "State shutdown looms"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E659A.FF86BCF3@maynor.net>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>As I said earlier, should I be worried?  All those things could happen
>to me.  I didn't realize that there would be a difference, though, if I
>were retired.  It had never occurred to me to think that the university
>would be liable if I ran over a pedestrian while driving through campus.

See? You are asking for more legal advice. People who have been run over
do exaclty what other people do - they go for deep pockets. Even with
your buyout, the university probably has more money than yoo do, so that
pedestrian will go for the university if possible.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:57:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29668
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:57:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CCF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:11:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:16:40 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U2Ged16772 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:16:40 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYH00KEJYBRU4@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:16:39 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100649.009e9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1E3AB4.9AE8454@maynor.net> <3D1E5971.3090405@swbell.net>
            <3D1E650A.D8A4845F@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D1E69B2.4080102@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:15:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>        I'm not really worried about your books.  I'm more worried
>>about your dogs.  I think your RRs would simply take them to
>>the pound.
>>
>
> That's where they both came from -- not both in this town, of course --
> Buddy came from a shelter in Birmingham.  (And Spencer was never
> actually in the shelter here -- he was in foster care from the beginning
> because the shelter was full.)  So who should I will them to?  My mother
> and I have agreed for many years that if something happened to one of
> us, the other would take the dog(s).  But now that that's not a likely
> solution, what do you suggest?


        Will them to somebody you know would keep them or would
ensure they found an appropriate home.  From what you've
said about your humane society, your adoption rates are high
enough that it probably doesn't matter.  Still, I'd want to
know where my dogs would go.  Vinnie is co-owned by his
breeder, so he'd just go back to her.  And Kira would go to
the adoption group.  This is in theory.  I have a family
full of dog lovers, so somebody would take them (well,
except my brother, because his wife is allergic, poor thing
-- we like her anyway).

        Sometimes I get a dog into rescue because the owner has died.
  I think the owner expected their kids or whoever to keep
the dog, but the dog just gets dumped at the shelter or
something.  At least we usually get papers, etc. in those
cases, which doesn't mean a whole lot unless the adopter
wants to do AKC events like obedience or field/hunt trials.
  One rescue Cecily and I placed has her UDX -- an
impressive obedience title.


        In any case, I assume you'll do what's best for your

dogs and not leave them to your RRs to dispose of since they
don't seem to be much concerned with your mother, never mind
a couple mutts.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:57:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29671
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:57:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CCF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:11:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:16:41 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe45.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.17]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U2Gfd16776 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:16:41 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          29 Jun 2002 19:16:35 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2002 02:16:35.0620 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[28B7DE40:01C21FDC]
Message-ID:  <OE45WMozgYLowspDKic000017dc@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:17:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Sometimes the cellulite dimples are little grey down in the
>valleys.  Maybe a tan evens out the skin tone enough to mask
>the ripples a bit.

Wouldn't know. :). From your own experience ... ?

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 15:59:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29675
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 15:59:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CD00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:13:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:19:04 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U294d16200 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:09:04 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5U293OI021236 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:09:03 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292206460.22077-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:09:03 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: typochondriacs?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206292030010.6032-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:

>How's your knee?

Thank you for asking - it is swollen and it hurts. I could not see an
acu/accupuncturist (take your choice - type o or not type o), so I tried
to stay off it as much as possible. I cannot see the orthopedic person
until Wed. It is bad enought that I contemplated taking a narcotic once
today - but did not. I hate the way they make me feel.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 16:00:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29688
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 16:00:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C3E46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:19:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:19:37 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U29bd16247 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:09:37 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5U29aOI021392 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:09:36 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292209180.22077-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:09:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: "State shutdown looms"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E6438.18613C31@maynor.net>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> Probably not. That is a criminal action. But suppose I accidentally
>> dropped a ton of paper on top of a sec'y? Worker's comp MIGHT take care
>> of it - but the sec'y might decide to sue. If I had done that while
>> carrying out univ. business, the univ. could be liable, rather than me.
>
>We do indeed live in different universes.

Explain, please.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 16:00:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29692
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 16:00:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C3E47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:19:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:19:41 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U2Jfd17078 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:19:41 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYH00K9WYGSSV@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:19:40 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100649.009e9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629195357.00a07840@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629213516.00a0d5a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1E674C.4735E98A@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D1E6A68.1070600@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:18:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> bonniev wrote:
>
>
>>I would think a Humane Society
>>might have a lawyer friend on call just in case legal advice might be
>>needed or to handle the estate of someone who willed all they had to help
>>the society.
>>
>
> Is having a lawyer on call different from calling a lawyer if a need
> occurs?  I think that's where I'm having difficulty with this idea.  I
> feel sure that the OCHS would call a lawyer if a need arose.  So would
> I.  But I don't <have> a lawyer.  What does having a [whatever] on call
> really mean?  This is an interesting (to me) words question.  I have of
> course heard the expression all my life.  But I suddenly realize that I
> don't know exactly what it means.
>


You can have a lawyer on retainer, which means you've paid
them a certain amount of money, and the lawyer/firm then
keeps that money in an account and deducts from it when they
provide you a service.  Most people don't do this.  When I
say I have a lawyer, it just means that I've used this
particular person for something in the past and would do so
again.  Well, I worked for her, and she's written one letter
on our behalf to a recalcitrant contractor.  And I had a
divorce lawyer, of course, but I don't remember who that was.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 16:01:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29696
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 16:01:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CD0B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:15:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:20:56 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U2Kud17192 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:20:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BD13F8030; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 19:20:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630022055.BD13F8030@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:20:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: typochondriacs?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292206460.22077-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 29, 2002 10: 9: 3 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> It is bad enought that I contemplated taking a narcotic once
> today - but did not. I hate the way they make me feel.

Take one when you go to bed. It will help the inflammation.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 16:11:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29707
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 16:11:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CD3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:25:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:30:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U2UKd19098 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:30:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C9F428342; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 19:29:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630022913.C9F428342@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:29:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292038410.12215-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 29, 2002  8:40: 6 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> >> If you will send us a detailed list of reasonably intelligent trustworthy
> >> friends of yours, we will select all these people for you.
> >
> >I can't think of anybody that I would be willing to impose upon.
>
> Thank you for reminding me that we live in different universes. Mine is
> one in which mutual help, imposition, obligtion, and reception are
> ordinary, usual, and positive. I don't at all understand the universe
> that you live in. I really don't.

But being an executor of a will is not a 'mutual help'. It's not the
kind of favor one can repay.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 16:19:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29719
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 16:19:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CD71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:33:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:38:48 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U2Smd18893 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:28:48 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5U2SkOI025108 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:28:47 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292219250.12959-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:28:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      The 3 little pigs and trademark law
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I looked for a good web source for Natalie to explain why she might in
fact want to "have a lawyer." I did not find one - but I did find what I
consider an amusing story illutrating the value of consulting counsel
where trademark law is concerned:

http://www.annapolischamber.com/newsletters/sept00newsletter/legal8.htm

One "has a lawyer" for the same reason that one goes back to the same
medical doctor or orthopedic clinic. I am waiting to see someone at the
Knoxville Orthopedic Clinic - even though I might have seen someone else
earlier - because they have an extensive medical history for me including
most surgeries, all back problems, etc. It will be much easier for them to
treat me appropriately because of that.

The same things holds for lawyers. Your lawyer will know your family
situation, your needs and desires, etc. - if you go to a different one
every time you need one, you will spend a lot of time getting acquainted,
reciting those things, etc. (while the clock is running!). Law is as
dependent upon context as everything else.

You and my mother would probably get along well, Natalie. Her notion of
law is that it is a bunch of rigid rules in a book - all one has to do is
look up the right one and follow it and all will be well.

Of course she also thinks that everyone who drives without a seat belt
should immediately be arrested and put in prison - of course, we could do
that only if we removed all policemen from their beats and let the
criminals run wild!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 16:19:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29726
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 16:19:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CD72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:33:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:38:57 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U2cvd19836 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:38:57 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-53.panax.com [63.163.41.53])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U2cvj32477 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:38:57 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292038410.12215-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629223700.00a183c0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:38:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020630022913.C9F428342@yellow.rahul.net>

>But being an executor of a will is not a 'mutual help'. It's not the
>kind of favor one can repay.     --Karen

You do know that people get paid for being an executor?  I shall always
love Clyde's Aunt Bea for being executrix of her brother, Clyde's Dad's,
will.  She did a wonderful job that would have been very difficult for us
to do because we were in Tennessee and Dad's assets were in Wisconsin.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 16:21:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29733
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 16:21:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CD79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:35:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464473 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:40:43 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U2Uhd19144 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:30:43 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5U2UgOI025425 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:30:42 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292229260.12959-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:30:42 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: typochondriacs?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020630022055.BD13F8030@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>Take one when you go to bed. It will help the inflammation.

Maybe I will do that - I have vicoprofen and something else - roxicet or
something like that. I read about them on the web today. The vicoprofen
contains some ibuprofen and sounded somehow milder. Do you know more?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 16:23:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29738
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 16:22:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CD7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:36:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:42:09 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U2W8d19314 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:32:08 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5U2W8OI025707 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:32:08 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292230560.12959-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:32:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020630022913.C9F428342@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>But being an executor of a will is not a 'mutual help'. It's not the
>kind of favor one can repay.

No - but one can be available for somthing else. For instance, I am
executor for a friend here - and he has held poas for me when I have had
surgery.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 16:24:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29745
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 16:24:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CD7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:38:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:43:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U2hPd20074 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:43:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8AA86832C; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 19:43:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630024324.8AA86832C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:43:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: typochondriacs?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292229260.12959-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 29, 2002 10:30:42 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >Take one when you go to bed. It will help the inflammation.
>
> Maybe I will do that - I have vicoprofen and something else - roxicet or
> something like that. I read about them on the web today. The vicoprofen
> contains some ibuprofen and sounded somehow milder. Do you know more?

No. I've taken vicoprofen, and it helped.

I read a while back that pain causes inflammation, and so I've been
treating pain like a total wuss ever since--no toughing things out any
more! It's helped me recover faster.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 16:25:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29754
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 16:25:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CD81@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:39:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:44:47 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U2ild20133 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:44:47 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A31858329; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 19:44:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630024446.A31858329@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:44:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020629223700.00a183c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jun 29, 2002 10:38:47 pm"

bonniev said:
> >But being an executor of a will is not a 'mutual help'. It's not the
> >kind of favor one can repay.     --Karen
>
> You do know that people get paid for being an executor?

Yes. But it always seems to be more trouble than it's worth.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 16:28:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29758
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 16:28:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CD83@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:42:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:47:47 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U2lld20272 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:47:47 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYH00K7IZRNUD@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:47:47 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <OE45WMozgYLowspDKic000017dc@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D1E70FE.8010108@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:46:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:

>>Sometimes the cellulite dimples are little grey down in the
>>valleys.  Maybe a tan evens out the skin tone enough to mask
>>the ripples a bit.
>>
>
> Wouldn't know. :). From your own experience ... ?
>


        Just from observation.  I'm a lot younger than you, you know.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 16:40:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29777
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 16:40:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CDA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:54:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 22:59:42 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U2ngd20364 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:49:42 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5U2nfOI028514 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:49:41 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292247510.12959-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:49:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: typochondriacs?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020630024324.8AA86832C@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>No. I've taken vicoprofen, and it helped.
>
>I read a while back that pain causes inflammation, and so I've been
>treating pain like a total wuss ever since--no toughing things out any
>more! It's helped me recover faster.

Thanks. I am not big on toughing things out - but I hate to be under the
influece of. I just don't like the way it feels.

But I think I'll try a vicop tonight.

And so to bed - the state legislature reconvenes at 7 a.m.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 16:51:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29805
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 16:51:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CE01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:05:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12465400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 23:10:25 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U3APd22003 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:10:25 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust148.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.150]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003587835@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 23:10:24 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020630013401.2BABA830B@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E76E1.5B3D7824@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:11:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> I found some dead worms behind my stereo today.

Eeeeeeeeeew.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 17:00:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29833
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 17:00:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CE12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:14:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12465470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 23:19:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U3JWd22425 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:19:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EA7508334; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:19:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630031931.EA7508334@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:19:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E76E1.5B3D7824@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jun 29,
              2002 11:11:29 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I found some dead worms behind my stereo today.
>
> Eeeeeeeeeew.

Yep. I vacuumed behind there before my party last weekend, but I
couldn't see these. I also discovered that someone broke something
irreplaceable at my party and hid the pieces.:(

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 17:01:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29837
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 17:01:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CE15@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:15:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12465485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 23:20:24 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U3KOd22493 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:20:24 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust148.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.150]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003587941@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 23:20:24 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100649.009e9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629195357.00a07840@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629213516.00a0d5a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1E674C.4735E98A@maynor.net> <3D1E6A68.1070600@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E7938.53540A7A@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:21:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

 When I
> say I have a lawyer, it just means that I've used this
> particular person for something in the past and would do so  again.

Me too. I had a lawyer set up a living trust and a durable PoA. And
paid. Now, if I should need legal advice, I will call her again. She is
not on a retainer, because I don't anticipate needing her services
frequently. I say, "I have a lawyer."

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 17:02:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29842
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 17:02:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CE1B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:16:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12465509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 23:21:19 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U3LJd22572 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:21:19 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust148.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.150]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004895072@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 23:21:18 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020630022913.C9F428342@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E796F.6865AAF0@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:22:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote
>
> But being an executor of a will is not a 'mutual help'. It's not the
> kind of favor one can repay.

Executors get paid by the estate.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 17:09:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29860
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 17:09:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3CE25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:23:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12465555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 23:28:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U3Sxd22926 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:28:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A174F8331; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 20:28:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630032858.A174F8331@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:28:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E796F.6865AAF0@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jun 29,
              2002 11:22:23 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote
> > But being an executor of a will is not a 'mutual help'. It's not the
> > kind of favor one can repay.
>
> Executors get paid by the estate.

Which in my case would be about 20 yen.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 18:54:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00167
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 18:54:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C46E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 1:13:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12473933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 01:13:24 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U5DId00957 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 01:13:23 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.11]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYI6GF02.SDH for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:12:15 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291734320.11155-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu >
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629175104.00b4ccd8@mail.panax.com>
            <20020629185740.A27306@pobox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E935E.C3BEFD5F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:13:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: typochondriacs?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:

> Ambrose Beirce you ain't ... and he was pretty lame

    "Ambrose Beirce was pretty lame."?  May I quote you on that?

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 19:08:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00204
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 19:08:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3D8E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 1:21:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12474244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 01:27:10 -0400
Received: from cpimssmtpu04.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu04.email.msn.com
          [207.46.181.80]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5U5RAd02221 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          01:27:10 -0400
Received: from computer ([67.242.15.114]) by cpimssmtpu04.email.msn.com with
          Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:26:14 -0700
References: <002401c21eb0$5fa0db50$48305b80@EAGLE72> 
            <3D1CE5F4.351D73D@maynor.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2002 05:26:15.0567 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A7B1F9F0:01C21FF6]
Message-ID:  <01ef01c21ff6$9b8cb160$720ff243@computer>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 01:25:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Wonderful!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Natalie Maynor" <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
To: <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: Wonderful!


> "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:
>
> > Sorry I did not answer sooner, work and life has kept me busy. If I
> > worked in a mall, it would be either a computer store, sports store(
> > steph is correct) or possibly office supplies. I love all kinds of cool
> > pens.
>
> Hey, Alec -- instead of bothering us all, why didn't you simply reply
> directly to Betty?
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>

My bad!

later

alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 19:27:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00235
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 19:27:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3D93F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 1:41:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12474535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 01:46:40 -0400
Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.157]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5U5ked03513 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          01:46:40 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0299.dialsprint.net ([63.190.1.45]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17OXXe-0002da-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun,
          30 Jun 2002 01:46:35 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292155210.22077-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1E9B39.C13E0A44@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 00:46:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> It seems to me that what is happening here is that Natalie is requesting
> legal advice - but she is not requesting it from competent
> authority. Natalie, you should never take legal advice from people not
> competent to give it.

I didn't think Natalie was asking for legal advice...but she sure is
receiving advice about legal issues she never thought about.   Natalie
has been asking questions, but Natalie usually asks questions.

Natalie, do you want Power of Attorney for your mother?

--
Sylvia Edwards
who knows the name of a lawyer to call, but doesn't HAVE a lawyer..

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 19:53:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00258
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 19:53:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3DB12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 2:07:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12476243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 02:12:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U6CYd06722 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 02:12:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 78A868356; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 23:12:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630061233.78A868356@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:12:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E9B39.C13E0A44@pop.mindspring.com> from Sylvia Edwards at
              "Jun 30, 2002  0:46:45 am"

Sylvia Edwards said:
> Natalie, do you want Power of Attorney for your mother?

She *has* it--jointly with her her b and sil.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 20:13:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00286
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 20:13:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3DB60@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 2:27:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12476531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 02:32:50 -0400
Received: from fido.kiva.net (fido.kiva.net [216.9.137.65]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g5U6Wod08059 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 02:32:50 -0400
Received: (qmail 6162 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2002 06:32:46 -0000
Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by fido.kiva.net with SMTP; 30
          Jun 2002 06:32:46 -0000
Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id 8A6B034F11; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 01:32:49 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix)
          with ESMTP id 89B4D2D643 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun
          2002 01:32:49 -0500 (EST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206300131170.9300-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 01:32:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tom Lee <flint@KIVA.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1D0B28.525BB4B3@maynor.net>

        I don't remember doing so.  In case I didn't, I work at a company
here in Bloomington, Indiana that sells Doppler radar systems.  I am a
programmer and systems administrator for our Linux systems.

--
Take care,
Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
I didn't write the software we sell, for better or worse

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Did you tell us where you are now working?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 20:15:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00299
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 20:15:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3DB65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 2:29:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12476547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 02:34:51 -0400
Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5U6Ypd08161 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          02:34:51 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0299.dialsprint.net ([63.190.1.45]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17OYIK-000657-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun,
          30 Jun 2002 02:34:48 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020630061233.78A868356@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1EA687.4FA8F479@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 01:34:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Sylvia Edwards said:
> > Natalie, do you want Power of Attorney for your mother?
>
> She *has* it--jointly with her her b and sil.

Perhaps, but does she WANT it?  Does she want to use a Power of Attorney
to handle her mother's affairs?   Wordslers are giving her all kinds of
advice, but does she WANT the advice?

--
Sylvia Edwards
who suspects the RRB and RRSIL have been using the poa all along

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 20:27:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00310
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 20:27:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C498D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 2:46:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12476630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 02:46:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5U6kEd08832 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 02:46:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9A3797C4F; Sat, 29
          Jun 2002 23:46:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630064613.9A3797C4F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:46:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1EA687.4FA8F479@pop.mindspring.com> from Sylvia Edwards at
              "Jun 30, 2002  1:34:59 am"

Sylvia Edwards said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > Sylvia Edwards said:
> > > Natalie, do you want Power of Attorney for your mother?
> >
> > She *has* it--jointly with her her b and sil.
>
> Perhaps, but does she WANT it?  Does she want to use a Power of Attorney
> to handle her mother's affairs?

I think she needs it.

> Wordslers are giving her all kinds of
> advice, but does she WANT the advice?

Probably not.

> who suspects the RRB and RRSIL have been using the poa all along

You think they are ripping off his mother for peanuts?!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 20:29:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00319
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 24 May 1960 20:29:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3DB8A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 2:43:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12476649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 02:48:30 -0400
Received: from fido.kiva.net (fido.kiva.net [216.9.137.65]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g5U6mUd08962 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 02:48:30 -0400
Received: (qmail 10923 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2002 06:48:25 -0000
Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by fido.kiva.net with SMTP; 30
          Jun 2002 06:48:25 -0000
Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id B3F7534F11; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 01:48:29 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix)
          with ESMTP id B33082D643 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun
          2002 01:48:29 -0500 (EST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206300134500.9300-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 01:48:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tom Lee <flint@KIVA.NET>
Subject:      Re: Yahoo! News Story - Pledge Ruled Unconstitutional
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1CB8DA.4B700125@valstar.net>

        Are they actually claiming that the word "God" appears in these
documents?  If so, are they stupid, or do they think we are?

        This frequently bothers too: in theory, the media have two primary
purposes, to report the truth and to provide a forum for public debate.
They usually fall short of these goals (the truth is the truth as they see
it, and their idea of public debate is limited by the ideas that all
opinions can be expressed as sound bites and that no issue has more than
two sides), but it irks me when they completely ignore one of them and let
public figures say anything they want in their pages (or on their
program), true or false, even when the writers presumably know what the
falsehoods are.  It's easy to check whether the word "God" appears in the
Bill of Rights or the Constitution; a journalist should do so and tell us
as part of his/her duty to report the truth.  It's rare that a statement
is so easily verifiable; they should take advantage of that when they can.

        Imagine, seeing a tape of a politician putting words in the mouth
of his/her opposition, accusing the opponent of saying this or that,
followed by the reporter adding, "Meanwhile, in a little place I like to
call reality, the opponent has said no such thing in any public speech."

--
Take care,
Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
I should go to bed; I'm ranting

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

> All of the politicians, including the president, who are mouthing off
> about "God" being in the Constution and Bill of Rights are irking me.
> The word does not appear anywhere, and I am astonished that they are not
> challenged by reporters and TV interviewers.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 00:47:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00592
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 00:47:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3DE83@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 7:01:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 07:06:20 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe55.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.63]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UB6Kd28052 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:06:20 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          30 Jun 2002 04:06:14 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2002 11:06:14.0875 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[26A15AB0:01C22026]
Message-ID:  <OE55tAEHLB8TrBHxvZ900001a8c@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 06:07:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Just from observation.  I'm a lot younger than you, you know.

Although it's none of my affair, there's no reason for you to feel too bad
about that, if, in fact, it's even true. Relax. Wisdom will come!

I've never taken the time to ponder such things which do not appear in my
own mirror, nor those which are none of my concern -- merely a couple of the
many gifts of maintaining a healthy ego.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 00:59:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00610
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 00:59:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3DEA5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 7:12:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 07:18:13 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UBICd28771 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:18:12 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws58-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.58]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5UBIAQ12105
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 06:18:10 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292155210.22077-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1EE8EE.39B1F1CF@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 06:18:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> It seems to me that what is happening here is that Natalie is requesting
> legal advice -

I am??  I've asked general questions in response to comments/questions
people have addressed to me -- things like "is it really true that most
people have poa assigned to somebody?"  I don't think of things like
that as asking legal advice.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 01:02:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA00625
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 01:02:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3DEBF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 7:15:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 07:20:58 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UBKwd28947 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:20:58 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws58-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.58]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5UBKuQ12447
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 06:20:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100649.009e9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1E3AB4.9AE8454@maynor.net> <3D1E5971.3090405@swbell.net>
            <3D1E650A.D8A4845F@maynor.net> <3D1E69B2.4080102@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1EE994.9CEEF0D8@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 06:20:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

>         Will them to somebody you know would keep them or would
> ensure they found an appropriate home.

Words-L!

> From what you've
> said about your humane society, your adoption rates are high
> enough that it probably doesn't matter.

They're getting worse.  The little shelter is getting way too crowded,
but there's hope because of the new shelter that will be built soon.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 01:03:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA00630
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 01:03:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3DEEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 7:17:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 07:22:39 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UBMcd29100 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:22:38 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws58-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.58]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5UBMaQ12658
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 06:22:36 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206262025110.28038-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020627062537.009fb180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1AF139.58DC2C1D@maynor.net> <3D1B1BCD.BB82EBB1@valstar.net>
            <3D1BA437.6E7C12D7@maynor.net> <3D1BC086.7FFACE42@valstar.net>
            <3D1C4629.C36B43B3@maynor.net> <3D1C7C2B.90AC3852@valstar.net>
            <3D1CE927.197F4970@maynor.net> <3D1D3262.D7AE8614@valstar.net>
            <3D1D9759.BB885149@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629094813.009f0a20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629100649.009e9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629195357.00a07840@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020629213516.00a0d5a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D1E674C.4735E98A@maynor.net> <3D1E6A68.1070600@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1EE9F8.FFB98D5D@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 06:22:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:
>  When I
> say I have a lawyer, it just means that I've used this
> particular person for something in the past and would do so
> again.

Ok, that makes sense.  It's parallel with "having a doctor."  The only
difference to me is that pretty much everybody has need of a doctor
occasionally while many people never have need of a lawyer.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 01:07:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA00634
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 01:07:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3DEFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 7:21:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462773 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 07:26:36 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UBQad29312 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:26:36 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws58-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.58]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5UBQXQ13157
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 06:26:34 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292155210.22077-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D1E9B39.C13E0A44@pop.mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1EEAE5.2D4282A@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 06:26:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sylvia Edwards wrote:

> Natalie, do you want Power of Attorney for your mother?

Supposedly I have it.  So I guess it would be nice to have the actual
document.  I do believe it exists because part of the admission process
at the nursing home was for the poa to be faxed to them from Hville.  My
RRB&SIL have hired help who take care of such matters.  Somebody
somewhere in their huge fleet of employees presumably knows where that
document is since presumably it got faxed.  And the nursing home has me
listed as the "responsible party" for paying Mama's bills, etc.  Ditto
the hospital-bed rental place, her doctor in Starkville, etc.  Poa isn't
really necessary for such things, though, since it's simply a matter of
my having signed documents assuming the responsbility.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 01:13:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA00641
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 01:13:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3DF0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 7:27:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 07:32:16 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UBWGd29657 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:32:16 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws58-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.58]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5UBWDQ13771
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 06:32:14 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292204520.22077-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1EEC39.833475E2@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 06:32:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: "State shutdown looms"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >As I said earlier, should I be worried?  All those things could happen
> >to me.  I didn't realize that there would be a difference, though, if I
> >were retired.  It had never occurred to me to think that the university
> >would be liable if I ran over a pedestrian while driving through campus.
>
> See? You are asking for more legal advice. People who have been run over

That's asking legal advice?  I saw it as asking why you would be worried
about something like that.  I've been merrily living for 59 years
without such worry.  I'd just as soon continue to do so.   I think I'm
still employed today.  I think my official retirement date is tomorrow.
So I guess I'd better do my running over of campus pedestrians today.
Problem is that there aren't as many on weekends.  I am about to head up
there, though, to continue the office task I've started.  I'm wondering
whether throwing books out of a third-floor window onto a grassy area
would hurt them.  I could park very close to that area and scoop them
from the grass into my car.  (Speaking of parking, the new decals are
out now -- a bit earlier than usual -- and I discovered that retired
people get them for half price.)

> do exaclty what other people do - they go for deep pockets. Even with
> your buyout, the university probably has more money than yoo do, so that
> pedestrian will go for the university if possible.

Life must be very limiting for people with worries of this kind.  Sounds
to me as if the only safe way to live is never to go outside.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 01:15:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA00653
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 01:15:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C5187@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 7:34:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 07:34:55 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UBYtd29769 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:34:55 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws58-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.58]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5UBYqQ14080
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 06:34:53 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292209180.22077-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1EECD9.DFA520FE@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 06:34:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: "State shutdown looms"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >> Probably not. That is a criminal action. But suppose I accidentally
> >> dropped a ton of paper on top of a sec'y? Worker's comp MIGHT take care
> >> of it - but the sec'y might decide to sue. If I had done that while
> >> carrying out univ. business, the univ. could be liable, rather than me.
> >
> >We do indeed live in different universes.
>
> Explain, please.

It would never occur to me to think that a secretary might sue me for an
accident.  I've seen lots of office accidents through the years,
including one that put somebody in the hospital with a back injury.  The
injured person kidded our head secretary for years about having pushed
her over that pile of boxes, leading to the injury.  But I don't think
she considered suing the person for what was obviously an accident.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 01:18:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA00657
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 01:18:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3DF12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 7:32:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12462840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 07:37:21 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UBbKd29915 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:37:20 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws58-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.58]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5UBbIQ14340
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 06:37:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292219250.12959-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1EED6A.C697EACE@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 06:37:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: The 3 little pigs and trademark law
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> The same things holds for lawyers. Your lawyer will know your family
> situation, your needs and desires, etc. - if you go to a different one
> every time you need one, you will spend a lot of time getting acquainted,
> reciting those things, etc. (while the clock is running!). Law is as
> dependent upon context as everything else.

I don't have any trouble understanding this for somebody who needs the
services of a lawyer regularly.  It's just that most ordinary people
don't.  It's quite easy to live a whole life without ever going to a
lawyer.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 02:14:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00752
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 02:14:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3DFBB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 8:28:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 08:33:22 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UCNMd32590 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:23:22 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UCNLOI001096 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:23:21 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206300821340.23858-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:23:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      hey Karen!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I took a vicoprofen last night. I believe I slept slightly better - and I
also think the pain/swelling are slightly reduced this morning. I am
relieved that I do not have much of a narcotic hangover. Now I know that I
can take vicop without feeling too bad.

Thanks!
Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 02:16:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00764
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 02:16:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3DFCC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 8:30:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 08:35:31 -0400
Received: from color.sics.se (color.sics.se [193.10.66.199]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UCZUd01305 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:35:30 -0400
Received: from scheutz.sics.se (scheutz.sics.se [193.10.66.136]) by
          color.sics.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26921 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:35:29 +0200 (MET DST)
          env-to (<WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>) env-from (torkel@scheutz.sics.se)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <200206301235.OAA26921@color.sics.se>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:35:29 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Torkel Franzén <torkel@SICS.SE>
Subject:      Re: BradleyDale Sighting...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:00:24 EDT." 
              <6E0CB452.0AC9DCD4.0099AB05@netscape.net>

Colonel Hannum says:

  >Met with Brad on tuesday as promised.  He's doing well, just busy with
  >homelife, doncha know.

  I don't believe you. You've killed Brad and had his stuffed remains
mounted in your garden as the Kentucky Colonel Gnome, with the
inscription:

   Wir haben nichts, wir können nichts, wir verstehen nichts, wir sagen
   nichts.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 02:28:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00773
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 02:28:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3DFFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 8:42:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 08:47:20 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UCbKd01430 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:37:20 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UCbJOI002697 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:37:19 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g5UCbKd01431
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206300836500.23858-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:37:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BradleyDale Sighting...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <200206301235.OAA26921@color.sics.se>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Torkel [UNKNOWN] Franzén wrote:

>  >Met with Brad on tuesday as promised.  He's doing well, just busy with
>  >homelife, doncha know.
>
>  I don't believe you. You've killed Brad and had his stuffed remains
>mounted in your garden as the Kentucky Colonel Gnome, with the
>inscription:
>
>   Wir haben nichts, wir können nichts, wir verstehen nichts, wir sagen
>   nichts.

I want a photo.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 02:42:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00785
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 02:42:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C5320@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 9:01:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12463931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 09:01:08 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UD18d03041 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:01:08 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-12.panax.com [63.163.41.12])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UD18j04601 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:01:08 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Your message of "Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:00:24 EDT."  
            <6E0CB452.0AC9DCD4.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g5UD18d03043
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020630085945.00b47f08@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:01:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: BradleyDale Sighting...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <200206301235.OAA26921@color.sics.se>

At 02:35 PM 6/30/2002 +0200, torkel wrote:

>   I don't believe you. You've killed Brad and had his stuffed remains
>mounted in your garden as the Kentucky Colonel Gnome, with the
>inscription:
>
>    Wir haben nichts, wir können nichts, wir verstehen nichts, wir sagen
>    nichts.

Excellent!  And it's good to hear from you.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 02:51:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00804
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 02:51:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E0C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 9:05:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 09:10:21 -0400
Received: from gtoal.com (gtoal.com [208.246.62.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UDAKd03830 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:10:20 -0400
Received: from valiant (verve.gtoal.com [192.168.0.9]) by gtoal.com
          (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA00800 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 25 May 1960 02:51:13 -0500 (CDT)
References: <20020630022913.C9F428342@yellow.rahul.net> 
            <3D1E796F.6865AAF0@valstar.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <00eb01c22037$564e0900$0900a8c0@valiant>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:09:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <bwp@GTOAL.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Executors get paid by the estate.

Not very much, or at least not enough to compensate you fairly for the time
and effort required to locate heirs, liquidate and/or distribute assets,
document everything and report to the court. In Texas the fee is 5% of the
amount of money that goes into and out of the estate. Unless the size of the
estate runs into millions of dollars, this compensation is equivalent to
token good-will money. Unless the executor himself is a major beneficiary of
the will, it is largely a thankless job full of hassles with very little
reward, and with potentially huge negative consequences if it is mishandled.

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 02:51:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00811
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 02:51:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E0C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 9:05:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12464314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 09:10:38 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UDAcd03841 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:10:38 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-102.panax.com
          [65.114.190.102]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5UDAcj05520 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          09:10:38 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <200206301235.OAA26921@color.sics.se> <Your message of "Sat, 29 Jun
            2002 17:00:24 EDT."   <6E0CB452.0AC9DCD4.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  8bit
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020630090949.009fc260@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:10:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: BradleyDale Sighting...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020630085945.00b47f08@mail.panax.com>

>>    Wir haben nichts, wir können nichts, wir verstehen nichts, wir sagen
>>    nichts.
>
>Excellent!  And it's good to hear from you.
>cwv

How's the wife?  I think of her every time we go down to L.L.Bean.  How's
life with too many hours of daylight?


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 03:28:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02250
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 03:28:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E182@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 9:42:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12465034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 09:47:38 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UDlbd06978 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:47:37 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYI001A8UBD7S@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:47:37 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <OE55tAEHLB8TrBHxvZ900001a8c@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D1F0BA4.30904@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:46:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:

>>Just from observation.  I'm a lot younger than you, you know.
>>
>
> Although it's none of my affair, there's no reason for you to feel too bad
> about that, if, in fact, it's even true. Relax. Wisdom will come!


        I try not to weep in my beer over it, believe me.


> I've never taken the time to ponder such things which do not appear in my
> own mirror, nor those which are none of my concern -- merely a couple of the
> many gifts of maintaining a healthy ego.


        People watching is fun.  Too bad you're missing out on it.  I
saw lots of fat rolls, cellulite dimples and even two
couples fucking under water yesterday.  Oh, and lots of
faux-primitive tatoos.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 04:03:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02287
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 04:03:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E214@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 10:16:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12465525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 10:21:57 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe12.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.116]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UELud09500 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:21:56 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          30 Jun 2002 07:21:51 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2002 14:21:51.0339 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[7A1BA3B0:01C22041]
Message-ID:  <OE124H1euRRiMZsGcSi00001baf@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:23:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>People watching is fun.  Too bad you're missing out on it.  I
saw lots of fat rolls, cellulite dimples and even two
couples fucking under water yesterday.  Oh, and lots of
faux-primitive tatoos.

Heavenly!

I hearby donate my missed portion of such <fun> to the less fortunate!

AS
AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 04:09:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02296
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 04:09:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E22B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 10:22:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12465620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 10:27:56 -0400
Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5UERud10108 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          10:27:56 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21] helo=verdie) by
          snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id
          17OfgB-0005Rw-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          07:27:55 -0700
References:  <OE124H1euRRiMZsGcSi00001baf@hotmail.com>
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600
Message-ID:  <006f01c22042$6b605180$6601a8c0@earthlink.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:28:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Organization: Greenery Press
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >People watching is fun.  Too bad you're missing out on it.  I
> saw lots of fat rolls, cellulite dimples and even two
> couples fucking under water yesterday.  Oh, and lots of
> faux-primitive tatoos.
>
> Heavenly!
>
> I hearby donate my missed portion of such <fun> to the less fortunate!

I'll take it -- I'm off to march in Pride in an hour.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 04:12:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02303
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 04:12:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E248@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 10:25:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12465712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 10:31:01 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe36.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.93]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UEV1d10408 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:31:01 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          30 Jun 2002 07:30:56 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2002 14:30:56.0088 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[BECDBD80:01C22042]
Message-ID:  <OE361XvpFVjCRGryWtI00001ba4@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:32:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I'll take it -- I'm off to march in Pride in an hour.

>Janet

Have a good time -- and give our regards to the basset houns.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 04:14:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02310
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 04:14:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E24E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 10:27:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12465753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 10:33:06 -0400
Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5UEX6d10676 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          10:33:06 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21] helo=verdie) by
          snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id
          17OflB-0001Mk-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          07:33:05 -0700
References:  <OE361XvpFVjCRGryWtI00001ba4@hotmail.com>
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600
Message-ID:  <007b01c22043$24269080$6601a8c0@earthlink.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:33:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Organization: Greenery Press
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >I'll take it -- I'm off to march in Pride in an hour.
>
> Have a good time -- and give our regards to the basset houns.

No, that's Hound Pride, on Thursday. Today is Gay/Lesbian/Bi/Trans/etc.
Pride.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 04:24:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02327
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 04:24:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C55CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 10:43:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12465967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 10:43:42 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe33.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.90]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UEhgd11480 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:43:42 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          30 Jun 2002 07:43:37 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66]
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2002 14:43:37.0186 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[84741420:01C22044]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <OE33trSByh133tYwlib00001b8b@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:44:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>No, that's Hound Pride, on Thursday. Today is Gay/Lesbian/Bi/Trans/etc.
Pride.

>Janet

I stand corrected, then. Perhaps I'll have a friend or two there.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 04:31:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02342
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 04:31:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E2B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 10:45:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12466107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 10:50:43 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UEohd12080 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:50:43 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UEogtr029460 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:50:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <OE124H1euRRiMZsGcSi00001baf@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020630075420.00a44f00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:54:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <006f01c22042$6b605180$6601a8c0@earthlink.net>

At 07:28 AM 6/30/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >People watching is fun.  Too bad you're missing out on it.  I
> > saw lots of fat rolls, cellulite dimples and even two
> > couples fucking under water yesterday.  Oh, and lots of
> > faux-primitive tatoos.
> >
> > Heavenly!
> >
> > I hearby donate my missed portion of such <fun> to the less fortunate!
>
>I'll take it -- I'm off to march in Pride in an hour.

You're going to get those titties burned, baby!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 04:40:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02348
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 04:40:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E2DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 10:54:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12466262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 10:59:46 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UExkd12785 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:59:46 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust186.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.188]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004902332@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 10:59:46 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1F1D18.EDA961BF@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 11:00:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      More about the Bellringer of Notre Dame
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doug says that he saw the show in question when in London, and that no
matter what they call it, it was a bad prodution. The other kid, Jeff,
writes:
Quasimodo suffered from kyphosis, not scoliosis (a sideways
curvature of the vertebrae). Perhaps, to be accurate, they should change
the name to "The Kyphotic Bellringer of Notre Dame."
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 04:55:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02372
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 04:55:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E328@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 11:09:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12466507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 11:14:28 -0400
Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5UFERd13925 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          11:14:28 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21] helo=verdie) by
          falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id
          17OgPD-0003TD-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          08:14:27 -0700
References: <OE124H1euRRiMZsGcSi00001baf@hotmail.com> 
            <4.2.2.20020630075420.00a44f00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600
Message-ID:  <000901c22048$eb544da0$6601a8c0@earthlink.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:15:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Organization: Greenery Press
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> At 07:28 AM 6/30/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >People watching is fun.  Too bad you're missing out on it.  I
> > > saw lots of fat rolls, cellulite dimples and even two
> > > couples fucking under water yesterday.  Oh, and lots of
> > > faux-primitive tatoos.
> > >
> > > Heavenly!
> > >
> > > I hearby donate my missed portion of such <fun> to the less fortunate!
> >
> >I'll take it -- I'm off to march in Pride in an hour.
>
> You're going to get those titties burned, baby!

Hope so, at least a little bit. But I've got a bottle of Bullfrog in my
waist pack.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 05:52:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA02442
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 05:52:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E483@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 12:06:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12467413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 12:11:32 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UG1Wd17392 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:01:32 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UG1VOI003940 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:01:31 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301200310.16734-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:01:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      they're back
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

My bookmarks are back as a pulldonw menu today - I did some editing of
them last night, but have no idea what I did that made them come back as a
pulldown menu. They were gone for about two weeks.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 06:08:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02470
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 06:08:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E4E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 12:22:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12468005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 12:27:40 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UGRdd19176 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:27:39 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g5UGUoi26941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:30:50
          +0200
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291428110.18302-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020630183049.A26931@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:30:49 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206291428110.18302-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>; from
              dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU on Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 02:31:22PM -0400

=
= In a city, they would be open until midnight on Saturday - and there would
= be an accupuncturist available.
=
= Bethany

Your ideas of what to expect from a city are way weird.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 06:42:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02500
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 06:42:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C5973@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 13:01:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12468515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 13:01:02 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UGp2d20879 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:51:02 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UGp1OI011619 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:51:02 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301250090.25365-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:51:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020630183049.A26931@yoccoz.multinix.com>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, steph wrote:

>= In a city, they would be open until midnight on Saturday - and there would
>= be an accupuncturist available.
>
>Your ideas of what to expect from a city are way weird.

Interesting. They are based on experiences in NYC, San Francisco, Chicago,
Washington, D.C., and Houston.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 06:44:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02507
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 06:44:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E5C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 12:58:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12468745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 13:03:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UH3Fd21687 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:03:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6AF5A7FD8; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 10:03:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630170314.6AF5A7FD8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:03:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hey Karen!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206300821340.23858-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 30, 2002  8:23:21 am"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> I took a vicoprofen last night. I believe I slept slightly better - and I
> also think the pain/swelling are slightly reduced this morning. I am
> relieved that I do not have much of a narcotic hangover. Now I know that I
> can take vicop without feeling too bad.

Good, I'm glad it worked well.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 06:45:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02519
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 06:45:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E5C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 12:59:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12468769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 13:04:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UH4ed21769 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:04:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CE5707F64; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 10:04:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630170439.CE5707F64@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:04:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <00eb01c22037$564e0900$0900a8c0@valiant> from Anne H Toal at "Jun
              30, 2002  8: 9:15 am"

Anne H Toal said:
> > Executors get paid by the estate.
>
> Not very much, or at least not enough to compensate you fairly for the time
> and effort required to locate heirs, liquidate and/or distribute assets,
> document everything and report to the court. In Texas the fee is 5% of the
> amount of money that goes into and out of the estate. Unless the size of the
> estate runs into millions of dollars, this compensation is equivalent to
> token good-will money. Unless the executor himself is a major beneficiary of
> the will, it is largely a thankless job full of hassles with very little
> reward, and with potentially huge negative consequences if it is mishandled.

Bingo. Which is why I've been reluctant to name an executor.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 06:46:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02523
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 06:46:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E5CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 13:00:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12468793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 13:05:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UH5fd21840 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:05:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 88A307E79; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 10:05:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630170540.88A307E79@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:05:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1F0BA4.30904@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jun 30,
              2002  8:46:12 am"

Rita Chapman said:
>         People watching is fun.  Too bad you're missing out on it.  I
> saw lots of fat rolls, cellulite dimples and even two
> couples fucking under water yesterday.  Oh, and lots of
> faux-primitive tatoos.

*Two* couples??? Where did you go?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 06:48:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02527
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 06:48:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E5D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 13:01:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12468808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 13:06:51 -0400
Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5UH6pd21884 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          13:06:51 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g5UH6oO319676 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          13:06:50 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGENOFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:06:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The 4th of July
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGMEHKFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

Gosh, he was fabulous as Charlie Dick. I'm looking forward to seeing him as
Jackson Pollock. I NetFlixed it and it's due to arrive on Monday.

Sandra

> > Ed Harris *was* terrific. Although I still have trouble looking at
> > him and not seeing John Glenn.
>
> John Glenn? Cripes, every time I see Ed Harris, I only see Patsy Cline's
> husband, Charlie Dick.
>
> --Adam
> adamh1@attbi.com
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 07:08:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02545
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 07:08:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E63F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 13:21:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12469178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 13:26:57 -0400
Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5UHQvd23081 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          13:26:57 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g5UHQuO311398 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          13:26:57 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEODFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:26:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206292038410.12215-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

> On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> >> If you will send us a detailed list of reasonably intelligent
> trustworthy
> >> friends of yours, we will select all these people for you.
> >
> >I can't think of anybody that I would be willing to impose upon.
>
> Thank you for reminding me that we live in different universes. Mine is
> one in which mutual help, imposition, obligtion, and reception are
> ordinary, usual, and positive. I don't at all understand the universe
> that you live in. I really don't.
>
> Bethany

I know we've covered this area before, Natalie. It's not that I can't
appreciate a person who takes pride in and strives to be self-reliant. But
your unwillingness to "impose" on others (and I think you do it just by
virtue of asking questions about things on this very list) rather smacks of
a unbenevolent view of the world. What is so awful about reaching out to
others?

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 07:09:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02552
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 07:09:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E648@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 13:23:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12469204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 13:28:23 -0400
Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5UHSMd23184 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          13:28:23 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g5UHSMO87854 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          13:28:22 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEODFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:27:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020629175846.00aeb2f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> At 07:21 PM 6/29/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >.Anyway, why this topic?  I think tanning beds should be against the law
> >since things like motorcycle helmets are required.  Iow, if we're going
> >to have laws to protect people from their ignorance, tanning beds strike
> >me as a logical prohibition to have.  (I should point out that I'm not
> >necessarily in favor of having laws to protect people from their own
> >stupidity.)
> >
> >--
> >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
> Janet likes them but she knows they are evil. Amy is getting bronzed.
>
> Betty

Seems like most of my friends are opting for self-tanning lotions. I still
get out in the sun. It wasn't anything I enjoyed when I was young, but after
my trip to Greece and my first real experience enjoying being in the sun, I
just can't entirely deny myself.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 07:13:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02558
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 07:13:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E657@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 13:26:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12469250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 13:31:58 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UHVwd23356 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:31:58 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 73C388059; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 10:31:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630173157.73C388059@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:31:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEODFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jun 30, 2002 10:27:45 am"

S Hess said:
> Seems like most of my friends are opting for self-tanning lotions. I still
> get out in the sun. It wasn't anything I enjoyed when I was young, but after
> my trip to Greece and my first real experience enjoying being in the sun, I
> just can't entirely deny myself.

You NEED to be out in the sun--it's how humans synthesize Vitamin
D. But you also need to protect yourself from overexposure.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 07:17:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02601
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 07:17:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E676@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 13:31:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12469360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 13:36:46 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UHakd23692 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:36:46 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYJ001GF4XA81@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:36:46 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020630170540.88A307E79@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D1F415A.1070802@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:35:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>        People watching is fun.  Too bad you're missing out on it.  I
>>saw lots of fat rolls, cellulite dimples and even two
>>couples fucking under water yesterday.  Oh, and lots of
>>faux-primitive tatoos.
>>
>
> *Two* couples??? Where did you go?
>


        Yes.  We were on a sandbar in the Mississippi.  It was quite
crowded yesterday.  Apparently, there's a sandbar further up
river than we were that is topless.  The one we stopped at
is fairly family oriented -- lots of kids for Ana to play
with.  And people were really good about keeping an eye out
for the kids when coming in and out with the wave runners.

        Yesterday I was very glad to have a cheap boat.  People park
their boats pretty close together and lots of bumping
happens.  The people with $20,000 boats were a little more
stressed out than we were with our $500 one (which really
didn't even cost us that since we traded an old car for it
and we never paid anything for that old car).  I think we
messed up the engine a little when we tried to sink it by
forgetting to put the plug back in it.  I had to dive into
the marina water (gross!!) and heroically save the day by
putting the plug back in under water (highly dramatic, you
know).  Then when we got out, the water had blown the fuse
that controls raising up the outboard motor, which meant we
couldn't go anywhere without dragging the prop.  Thank
goodness the RNH had half-installed the radio to the point
of having fuses under there to use.  So now we've learned to
double-check the plug situation and carry extra fuses.
Karen, you can't imagine the boating joys you are missing
out on!




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 07:22:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02634
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 07:22:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E697@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 13:36:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12469246 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 13:41:17 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UHVHd23343 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:31:17 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UHVGOI019698 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:31:16 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301329170.25365-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:31:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEODFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, S Hess wrote:

>Seems like most of my friends are opting for self-tanning lotions. I still
>get out in the sun. It wasn't anything I enjoyed when I was young, but after
>my trip to Greece and my first real experience enjoying being in the sun, I
>just can't entirely deny myself.

I am in the sun every day. I always use lotion. It does not prevent a very
light tan from developing over the course of the year, but it sure helps
preserve skin and health.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 07:24:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02641
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 07:24:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E6A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 13:38:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12469293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 13:43:31 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UHXVd23500 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:33:31 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UHXUOI020131 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:33:30 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301331510.25365-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:33:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEODFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, S Hess wrote:

>I know we've covered this area before, Natalie. It's not that I can't
>appreciate a person who takes pride in and strives to be self-reliant. But
>your unwillingness to "impose" on others (and I think you do it just by
>virtue of asking questions about things on this very list) rather smacks of
>a unbenevolent view of the world. What is so awful about reaching out to
>others?

D'accord. In fact, I think one has an obligation to both reach out for
and also provide help to community members.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 07:31:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02659
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 07:31:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E6BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 13:44:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12469652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 13:49:54 -0400
Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.60]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g5UHnsd24624 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          13:49:54 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-006neomahp0082.dialsprint.net ([63.186.48.82]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #1) id 17OipY-00075H-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 13:49:49 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020630064613.9A3797C4F@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1F44BB.38140C77@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:49:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Sylvia Edwards said:

> > who suspects the RRB and RRSIL have been using the poa all along
>
> You think they are ripping off his mother for peanuts?!

No.  Where did that conclusion of a rip off come from?  What part of
using a power of attorney to take care of their mother's business links
to the theft  committed by someone else?

--
Sylvia Edwards
Litopia    http://www.edwardsly.com
Sylvie's Place    http://www.geocities.com/s.words/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 07:34:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02665
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 07:34:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E6DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 13:48:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12469760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 13:53:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UHrGd24901 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:53:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DFF087F77; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 10:53:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630175315.DFF087F77@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:53:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Sex and drugs and rock and roll
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

And how women respond to it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61747-2002Jun28.html

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 07:36:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02672
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 07:36:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E6F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 13:49:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12469840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 13:54:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UHsmd25061 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:54:48 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F01FA7F77; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 10:54:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630175447.F01FA7F77@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:54:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1F44BB.38140C77@pop.mindspring.com> from Sylvia Edwards at
              "Jun 30, 2002 12:49:58 pm"

Sylvia Edwards said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > Sylvia Edwards said:
>
> > > who suspects the RRB and RRSIL have been using the poa all along
> >
> > You think they are ripping off his mother for peanuts?!
>
> No.  Where did that conclusion of a rip off come from?

You make the RRB and RRSIL's using of the poa sound bad somehow.
They've *all* been using their poa all along, as far as I can see.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 07:43:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02681
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 07:43:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E73F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 13:56:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12469687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 14:02:01 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UHq1d24781 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:52:01 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UHq0OI026033;
          Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:52:00 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301344040.25858-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:52:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

We need a playwright = this is theatre of the absurd redux! At the moment
- so far as I can tell - the legislature is set to vote on a proposal to
hold a general referendum on a state income tax on November 5. THAT will
give letter-to-the-editor writers something to scream about for several
months - if it passes, then a 4.5% flat income tax will be enacted
immediately to save us from drowning before Nov. 5.  Of course there will
also have to be a constitutional convention so we can figure out whether a
state income tax is constitutional here - that is is question.

But the eventual plan is to let taxpayers choose between a flat rate
income tax and a greatly-increased sales tax - one that would, with local
options, be as much as 10.25% in some areas.

What a bunch of losers!

Bradley Dale, where are you? I may start buying groceries in
Kentucky. Unlike Natalie, I do not think is my duty to pay insane amounts
of tax to a state that is conducing business in an imbecilic way. Or maybe
I will alternate between Kentucky and Georgia. Then there's always NC. Or
maybe I will move to another state and commute.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 08:38:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02728
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 08:38:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E86B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 14:51:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12471303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 14:57:07 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g5UIv7d29596 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:57:07 -0400
Received: from hppav (216.249.158.65) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex 6.5.007)
          id 3D0A970400091DBE for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          13:53:28 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <000f01c22068$1ba549e0$419ef9d8@hppav>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:58:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Fw: ESLNotes Movie Quote of the Week
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Your ESLNotes Movie Quote of the Week.  Enjoy.
>
>
>
> THE WIZARD OF OZ
>
>
> Scarecrow: I haven't got a brain... only straw.
>
> Dorothy: How can you talk if you haven't got a brain?
>
> Scarecrow: I don't know...but some people without brains do an awful lot
of
> talking... don't they?
>
> Dorothy: Yes, I guess you're right.
>
> Click on the link below to check out the movie THE WIZARD OF OZ
> http://www.eslnotes.com/synopses-w.html
>
>
> <><><><><> Tell a friend about ESLnotes.com Go to
> http://www.eslnotes.com/friend.html <><><><><>
>
>
> ESLNotes.com ... because words have meaning.
> http://www.ESLnotes.com
>
>
> To Subscribe/Unsubscribe, go to:
> http://www.eslnotes.com/
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 08:42:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02735
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 08:42:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E880@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 14:55:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12471374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 15:01:11 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe53.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.46]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UJ1Bd29849 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:01:11 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          30 Jun 2002 12:01:05 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2002 19:01:05.0761 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[7C858D10:01C22068]
Message-ID:  <OE53yWtIIZS2TRqf69a00001d20@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:02:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Bradley Dale, where are you? I may start buying groceries in
Kentucky.

Since we are about 11 miles from the Ky./Tenn. border here, you betcha there
are lots of Tenn. plates in the lots of Walmart and Kroger.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 09:28:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02779
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 09:28:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C5ED4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 15:46:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12472096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 15:46:52 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UJapd32012 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:36:51 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UJaoOI015826 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:36:51 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301536180.27023-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:36:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE53yWtIIZS2TRqf69a00001d20@hotmail.com>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Amy Burns Short wrote:

>>Bradley Dale, where are you? I may start buying groceries in
>Kentucky.
>
>Since we are about 11 miles from the Ky./Tenn. border here, you betcha there
>are lots of Tenn. plates in the lots of Walmart and Kroger.

Those are the two stores I have in mind - which TN towns are you near?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 09:32:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02791
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 09:32:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C5EFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 15:50:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12472157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 15:51:00 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UJexd32253 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:40:59 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UJewOI016379 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:40:59 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301538320.27023-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:40:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE53yWtIIZS2TRqf69a00001d20@hotmail.com>

So how will I carry my frozen goods back from KY to TN? Will I be able to
purchase dry ice in KY Walgreen's and Kroger's stores? Or should I
purchase a small DC refrigerater? ? Or will a chest of ice be okay?

Bethany
planning to shop the scenic route

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 09:34:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02798
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 09:34:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3E9D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 15:47:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12472497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 15:52:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UJqod00716 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:52:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AA90A81B7; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 12:52:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630195249.AA90A81B7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:52:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301538320.27023-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 30, 2002  3:40:58 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> So how will I carry my frozen goods back from KY to TN? Will I be able to
> purchase dry ice in KY Walgreen's and Kroger's stores? Or should I
> purchase a small DC refrigerater? ? Or will a chest of ice be okay?

You can buy freezer bags at Costco or Walmart.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 09:35:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02802
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 09:34:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C5F11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 15:53:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12472520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 15:53:44 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UJrid00798 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:53:44 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020630195338.MUQK6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:53:38 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020630124920.02509d70@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:50:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Spreading The Word
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Here's another kind of book swap.  You tag one of your books with a URL and
a unique ID, then "set it free" by leaving it where a stranger will find
it.  Hopefully the finder logs onto <http://www.bookcrossing.com/> to make
a journal entry, then sets the book free again.

The SF Chronicle has an article about BookCrossings goings-on in the Bay
Area:
<http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/06/30/BA236418.DTL>.
I'd seen Where's George, but hadn't seen PhotoTag -- that's cool, too. :)

Also related: <http://www.geocaching.com/>.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 10:05:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02828
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 10:05:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3EAAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 16:18:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12473270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 16:23:44 -0400
Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5UKNid02929 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          16:23:44 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g5UKNhO393058 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          16:23:43 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEOGFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:23:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020630173157.73C388059@yellow.rahul.net>

> S Hess said:
> > Seems like most of my friends are opting for self-tanning
> lotions. I still
> > get out in the sun. It wasn't anything I enjoyed when I was
> young, but after
> > my trip to Greece and my first real experience enjoying being
> in the sun, I
> > just can't entirely deny myself.
>
> You NEED to be out in the sun--it's how humans synthesize Vitamin
> D. But you also need to protect yourself from overexposure.
>
> Karen

Oh, I'm covered. Literally. 8, 15, 25, & 48 SPF, depending. Never less than
8.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 10:06:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02835
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 10:06:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3EAC1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 16:20:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12473329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 16:25:26 -0400
Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5UKPQd03055 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          16:25:26 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g5UKPPO18514 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          16:25:25 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEOGFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:24:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301331510.25365-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

> On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, S Hess wrote:
>
> >I know we've covered this area before, Natalie. It's not that I can't
> >appreciate a person who takes pride in and strives to be
> self-reliant. But
> >your unwillingness to "impose" on others (and I think you do it just by
> >virtue of asking questions about things on this very list)
> rather smacks of
> >a unbenevolent view of the world. What is so awful about reaching out to
> >others?
>
> D'accord. In fact, I think one has an obligation to both reach out for
> and also provide help to community members.
>
> Bethany

We disagree. I don't believe one has an *obligation* to "both reach out and
also provide help." Where'd you get that idea???

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 10:18:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02875
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 10:18:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3EB0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 16:31:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12473592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 16:36:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UKasd03807 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:36:54 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6E8D07E2C; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 13:36:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630203653.6E8D07E2C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:36:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEOGFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jun 30, 2002  1:24:48 pm"

S Hess said:
> > On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, S Hess wrote:
> >
> > >I know we've covered this area before, Natalie. It's not that I can't
> > >appreciate a person who takes pride in and strives to be
> > self-reliant. But
> > >your unwillingness to "impose" on others (and I think you do it just by
> > >virtue of asking questions about things on this very list)
> > rather smacks of
> > >a unbenevolent view of the world. What is so awful about reaching out to
> > >others?
> >
> > D'accord. In fact, I think one has an obligation to both reach out for
> > and also provide help to community members.
> >
> > Bethany
>
> We disagree. I don't believe one has an *obligation* to "both reach out and
> also provide help." Where'd you get that idea???

The Golden Rule.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 10:24:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02890
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 10:24:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C60BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 16:42:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12473458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 16:42:53 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UKWrd03511 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:32:53 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UKWqOI024128 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:32:52 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301632290.27354-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:32:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020630195249.AA90A81B7@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>You can buy freezer bags at Costco or Walmart.

What do you put in them to keep food frozen?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 10:25:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02894
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 10:25:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C60C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 16:44:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12473516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 16:44:11 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UKYBd03641 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:34:11 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UKYAOI024281 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:34:10 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301633340.27354-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:34:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEOGFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, S Hess wrote:

>Oh, I'm covered. Literally. 8, 15, 25, & 48 SPF, depending. Never less than
>8.

Cool. I mean hot. I mean safe.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 10:25:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02898
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 10:25:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3EB4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 16:39:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12473791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 16:44:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UKiRd04428 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:44:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7770F812A; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 13:44:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630204426.7770F812A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:44:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301632290.27354-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 30, 2002  4:32:52 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >You can buy freezer bags at Costco or Walmart.
>
> What do you put in them to keep food frozen?

Nothing, that's the point. They are made out of some new-age
insulating material.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 10:28:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02919
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 10:28:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3EB67@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 16:42:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12473608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 16:47:38 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UKbcd03900 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:37:38 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UKbbOI024790 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:37:37 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301634290.27354-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:37:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEOGFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, S Hess wrote:

>We disagree. I don't believe one has an *obligation* to "both reach out and
>also provide help." Where'd you get that idea???

I do not know any other way for people in a community to know who the
community members are except in terms of mutual help and mutual revelation
of self. We all need help. That is a given. It is very hard for some
individuals to let others know when they need help.

My ideas were developed in many communities in several states and at least
two countries - and in church communities, in AA, in academic life, in
sports, etc.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 10:38:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02943
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 10:38:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3EBEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 16:52:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12473865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 16:57:40 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UKled04643 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:47:40 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UKldOI026209 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:47:39 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301646330.27381-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:47:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020630204426.7770F812A@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> What do you put in them to keep food frozen?
>
>Nothing, that's the point. They are made out of some new-age
>insulating material.

Good. That's taken care of. I have seen things called "insulating
bags" for sale, but I assumed that you had to put something - ice or dry
ice - in them.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 10:40:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02950
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 10:40:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3EC03@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 16:53:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12473920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 16:59:01 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UKn1d04752 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:49:01 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UKn0OI026383 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:49:00 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301648170.27381-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:49:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301634290.27354-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

I said:

>I do not know any other way for people in a community to know who the
>community members are except in terms of mutual help and mutual revelation
>of self. We all need help. That is a given. It is very hard for some
>individuals to let others know when they need help.

Implicit is the idea that humans have an obligation to live in
community. I believe that we do.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 10:51:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02996
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 10:51:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3EDCE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 17:04:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12475708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 17:09:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UL9xd06819 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:09:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E2D29823D; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 14:09:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630210958.E2D29823D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:09:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301646330.27381-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 30, 2002  4:47:39 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> Good. That's taken care of. I have seen things called "insulating
> bags" for sale, but I assumed that you had to put something - ice or dry
> ice - in them.

Someone brought a cooler to my house and filled it full of ice. The
day after the party, I took it outside to drain and opened the lid. 4
days later, it was finally ready for her to take. This is in Texas, in
the summer. She said that it will keep things cold in her car in the
middle of the summer for at least a week. These things have improved a
good deal since the old days.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 10:51:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03003
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 10:51:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3EDCF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 17:05:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12474627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 17:10:19 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UL0Jd05738 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:00:19 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UL0IOI027978 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:00:18 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301649050.27381-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:00:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      pilates
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I have my new Pilates book - thanks for the tip, Karen.

Now if I will just get WELL so I can schedule some
classes/sessions/whatever!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 10:55:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03008
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 10:55:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3EE03@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 17:08:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12475863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 17:13:48 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5ULDmd07130 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:13:48 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4030782B2; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 14:13:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630211347.4030782B2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:13:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: pilates
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301649050.27381-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 30, 2002  5: 0:18 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> I have my new Pilates book - thanks for the tip, Karen.

You're welcome.

> Now if I will just get WELL so I can schedule some
> classes/sessions/whatever!

My advice is not to wait.

One time when I had a sinus infection, I went and had a Pilates
session and my trainer taught me a lot of weird things to do to help
drain my sinuses. They worked like a charm. It wasn't Pilates, but I
learned something about the mind-body connection.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 11:06:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03028
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 11:06:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C62AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 17:24:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12475887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 17:24:53 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5ULErd07176 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:14:53 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5ULEqOI030098 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:14:52 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301712450.27381-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:14:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020630210958.E2D29823D@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>Someone brought a cooler to my house and filled it full of ice. The
>day after the party, I took it outside to drain and opened the lid. 4
>days later, it was finally ready for her to take. This is in Texas, in

I have one of those - perhaps I will just put it in the van more-or-less
permanently.

The A/C people think that they can complete repair in the morning - so I
may have A/C tomorrow for the first time in over a year. I hope so - this
will be our first week of projected 90+ weather this year.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 11:10:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03035
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 11:10:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C62C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 17:29:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12475943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 17:29:17 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5ULJHd07404 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:19:17 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5ULJGOI030767 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:19:16 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301715040.27381-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:19:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: pilates
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020630211347.4030782B2@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> Now if I will just get WELL so I can schedule some
>> classes/sessions/whatever!
>
>My advice is not to wait.

I appreciate that - but between A/C appointments, PT appointments, my
orthopedic appt., and - this week - dental aapts, I will probably wait
until after I have a medical diagnosis (Wed). It it still difficult for me
to walk if it has been more than 4-5 hours since I took ibuorfen. The
vicop is for night only - and I won't take it tonight, because I have to
get up early to get to the A/C place. I do not want to walk any more than
I have to until after I have a med diagnosis - and maybe a shot of cs. I
think that one shot will probably take care of this.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 11:15:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03050
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 11:15:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C62E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 17:33:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12476235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 17:33:39 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f177.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.177]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5ULXcd08390 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:33:38 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          30 Jun 2002 14:33:33 -0700
Received: from 207.162.163.19 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 21:33:33 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [207.162.163.19]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2002 21:33:33.0463 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C8FA1A70:01C2207D]
Message-ID:  <F177VXLuSbh29cM3ory00000103@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 21:33:33 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Since we are about 11 miles from the Ky./Tenn. border here, you betcha
>there are lots of Tenn. plates in the lots of Walmart and Kroger.

>AS

>Those are the two stores I have in mind - which TN towns are you near?

Puryear. Paris. Dover. (Closest UT campus: Martin.)

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 11:40:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03068
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 11:40:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3EEE3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 17:53:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12476672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 17:59:13 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5ULxDd09749 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:59:13 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020630215907.BYXA8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 21:59:07 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301634290.27354-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020630145202.01e318d0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:56:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301648170.27381-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

Bethany writes,

>Implicit is the idea that humans have an obligation to live in
>community. I believe that we do.

"Human" and "living in community" are the same thing.  The amount of giving
and taking that comprises each community member's "living" varies widely,
though.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 12:15:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03126
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 12:15:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F00E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 18:28:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12477612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 18:33:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UMXqd11888 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:33:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2678E8381; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 15:33:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630223352.2678E8381@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:33:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301712450.27381-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 30, 2002  5:14:52 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> will be our first week of projected 90+ weather this year.

We've been over 90 since the beginning of May, but today was a lovely
respite in the 1970's.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 12:16:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03130
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 12:16:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F016@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 18:30:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12477644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 18:35:16 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UMZFd11988 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:35:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 18130835B; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 15:35:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020630223515.18130835B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:35:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: pilates
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301715040.27381-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jun 30, 2002  5:19:16 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> get up early to get to the A/C place. I do not want to walk any more than
> I have to until after I have a med diagnosis - and maybe a shot of cs. I
> think that one shot will probably take care of this.

For some reason this sounds to me like a horse instead of a human.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 12:21:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03134
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 12:21:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F024@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 18:35:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12477684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 18:40:24 -0400
Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g5UMeOd12187 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          18:40:24 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17OnMk-0000Uu-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun,
          30 Jun 2002 15:40:23 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301633340.27354-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010431b9453807e603@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:36:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301633340.27354-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

>On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, S Hess wrote:
>
>>Oh, I'm covered. Literally. 8, 15, 25, & 48 SPF, depending. Never less than
>  >8.
>
>Cool. I mean hot. I mean safe.

Well, FWIW, I was just out in San Francisco direct sunlight from
about 10a-2p. It's a week from the solstice. I am fair-skinned. I
wore no sunblock -- kept meaning to put some on, but never got around
to it. The sunlight here is such that I seem to have a barely pinkish
tone to my upper chest, and that's it.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 12:33:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03150
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 12:33:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F07B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 18:46:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12477722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 18:52:09 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UMg9d12290 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:42:09 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UMg8OI011289 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:42:08 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301841520.27381-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:42:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: pilates
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020630223515.18130835B@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> get up early to get to the A/C place. I do not want to walk any more than
>> I have to until after I have a med diagnosis - and maybe a shot of cs. I
>> think that one shot will probably take care of this.
>
>For some reason this sounds to me like a horse instead of a human.

Makes sense to me!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 12:36:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03189
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 12:36:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F097@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 18:49:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12478076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 18:54:41 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UMsfd13142 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:54:41 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws102-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.102]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5UMsdQ28184
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:54:39 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <200206301235.OAA26921@color.sics.se>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1F8C2B.6F9D58A9@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:54:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: BradleyDale Sighting...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Aha.  What better way to lure Bradykins from hiding than a posting from
Torkelykins!

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 12:36:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03198
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 12:36:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C656E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 18:54:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12477778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 18:54:53 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UMird12425 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:44:53 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UMiqOI011780 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:44:52 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301843000.27381-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:44:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      state sales tax
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Nothing will be definite until almost midnight, probably - but there is an
excellent chance that our sales tax will go up 1% tomorrow - I am not
going to willingly pay a 9.25% sales tax on groceries. The new sales tax
probably cannot take effect until August 1 - so I can make plans.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 12:42:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03209
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 12:42:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C65BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 19:01:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12478339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 19:01:00 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UN10d13507 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:01:00 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws102-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.102]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5UN0wQ29112
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:00:58 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEODFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1F8DA7.A45B7090@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:00:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:

> I know we've covered this area before, Natalie. It's not that I can't
> appreciate a person who takes pride in and strives to be self-reliant. But
> your unwillingness to "impose" on others (and I think you do it just by
> virtue of asking questions about things on this very list) rather smacks of
> a unbenevolent view of the world. What is so awful about reaching out to
> others?

Did I say anything was awful about it?  I just said I don't do it.  And
where does unbenevolence fit in?  And why do you consider asking
questions on the list imposing?  Any posting is imposing, of course, in
that it imposes itself upon the screens of other people.  I don't,
however, see that as related to what I'm talking about.  Everybody has
delete or kill-file power.  (Re pride, I do not take pride in
self-reliance.  Pride has nothing to do with this topic.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 12:45:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03224
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 12:45:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F106@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 18:58:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12478419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 19:04:01 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UN40d13762 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:04:00 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws102-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.102]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5UN3wQ29562
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:03:58 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301331510.25365-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1F8E5B.7F59F449@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:03:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, S Hess wrote:
>
> >I know we've covered this area before, Natalie. It's not that I can't
> >appreciate a person who takes pride in and strives to be self-reliant. But
> >your unwillingness to "impose" on others (and I think you do it just by
> >virtue of asking questions about things on this very list) rather smacks of
> >a unbenevolent view of the world. What is so awful about reaching out to
> >others?
>
> D'accord. In fact, I think one has an obligation to both reach out for
> and also provide help to community members.

So you also find questions on Words-L impositions?  Or were you agreeing
with only part of what Sandra said?  And I'll ask you what I just asked
her -- why does unwillingness to impose on others smack of an
unbenevolent view of the world?  I think my view of the world is rather
benevolent.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 12:48:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03228
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 12:48:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F10E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 19:01:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12478444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 19:07:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UN79d13913 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:07:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws102-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.102]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5UN77Q00138
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:07:07 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301344040.25858-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1F8F18.236DD686@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:07:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
> Or maybe
> I will alternate between Kentucky and Georgia.

I don't know about Kentucky, but Georgia has very low sales tax.  I
think it's just 6%.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 12:53:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03235
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 12:53:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F122@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 19:06:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12478507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 19:12:13 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UNCDd14125 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:12:13 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws102-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.102]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5UNCAQ00857
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:12:10 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301712450.27381-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1F9046.566149C@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:12:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> The A/C people think that they can complete repair in the morning - so I
> may have A/C tomorrow for the first time in over a year. I hope so - this
> will be our first week of projected 90+ weather this year.

I remembering finding A/C unnecessary in Knoxville.  But I lived there
for just two years.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 12:55:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03242
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 12:55:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F129@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 19:09:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12478538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 19:14:34 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UNEYd14213 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:14:34 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws102-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.102]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5UNEWQ01164
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:14:32 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301633340.27354-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <a05010431b9453807e603@[192.168.1.100]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1F90D4.935D786@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:14:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Janet Hardy wrote:

> Well, FWIW, I was just out in San Francisco direct sunlight from
> about 10a-2p. It's a week from the solstice. I am fair-skinned. I
> wore no sunblock -- kept meaning to put some on, but never got around
> to it. The sunlight here is such that I seem to have a barely pinkish
> tone to my upper chest, and that's it.

There's sunlight in SF?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 13:01:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03257
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 13:01:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F140@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 19:15:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12478604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 19:20:22 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UNKMd14497 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:20:22 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws102-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.102]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g5UNKJQ02018
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:20:20 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020630124920.02509d70@mail.istori.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1F9230.91A21E70@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:20:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Spreading The Word
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Funny.  Just today (and yesterday) I put several hundred books on the
bench in the hall -- our pass-along-books place.  I should've registered
for Bookcrossing.  I've always liked leaving books in odd places, hoping
that somebody will find them and enjoy them.  (Our hall is not an "odd
place" exactly.  I'm thinking now about busses, trains, airports,
hotels, etc.)  I also brought tons of books home, many of which I'm
going to take to the public library for their book sales.  My junk room
is piled miles high in books now.

I ended up not throwing any books out of my office window today, btw.  I
got worried that I might accidentally hit a squirrel and that PETA would
be confused about whether to sue me or MSU.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 13:23:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03285
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 13:23:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C66F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 19:42:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12479058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 19:42:20 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UNgKd15854 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:42:20 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g5UNgEb24736 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:42:14 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206301836450.24244-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:42:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301648170.27381-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> Implicit is the idea that humans have an obligation to live in
> community. I believe that we do.

I'd go for "propensity," "need," and for most "inescapable necessity," but
not "obligation."  I would bless the hermits, if I had blessing
capability.  Long live the possibility of happy hermithood!

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 13:31:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03300
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 13:31:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F298@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 19:44:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12478988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 19:49:58 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UNdwd15639 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:39:58 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UNdvOI027439 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:39:57 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301936310.20203-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:39:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1F8E5B.7F59F449@maynor.net>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>So you also find questions on Words-L impositions?

I certainly have not said that. Why do you think I have?

Or were you agreeing >with only part of what Sandra said?

Yes.

And I'll ask you what I just asked >her -- why does unwillingness to
impose on others smack of an >unbenevolent view of the world?  I think my
view of the world is rather >benevolent.

It suggests that you see something negative about community, asking for
help, reaching out, being known to need help, being willing to accept help
- hence perhaps unwilling to offer it.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 13:33:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03304
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 13:33:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F2BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 19:47:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12479262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 19:52:20 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UNqJd16458 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:52:20 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust15.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.17]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003601130@mx0.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 19:52:19 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1F99DC.1680A54D@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:53:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Kid's schoolbook
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

1938. Wonder how it would play now, with those cotton-picking Negroes
singing and all.
http://home.attbi.com/~gods/pibod.html

Is Texas really like this?
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 13:37:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03316
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 13:37:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F2FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 19:50:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12479122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 19:55:45 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UNjhd16048 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:45:43 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UNjgOI028181;
          Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:45:43 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301940170.20203-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:45:42 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Essential Services/Shutdown Update (fwd of extracts)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

---------- Forwarded message ----------
TO: UT Faculty, Staff, and Students
URGENT COMMUNICATION - ESSENTIAL SERVICES/SHUTDOWN UPDATE
Sunday, June 30, 6:45 P.M.

It appears virtually certain that the state is heading toward a partial
shutdown to last through July 5. The Tennessee General Assembly passed an
"Essential Services" bill Sunday afternoon to avoid a complete shutdown.

The President's Cabinet will meet tonight at 9 p.m. EDT to make a final
determination

1. Unless there is further notice before midnight on June 30, ten-week
classes will be in session next week (July 1-5) at the University
Tennessee, Knoxville. Students and faculty will meet those classes as
scheduled.
2. The second five-week session slated to begin on July 5 will begin no
earlier than July 8.
etc.

I wonder if there is some legal way to abolish the legislature and
initiate a new way of governing ourselves? At the least, we should get rid
of every incumbent, I think.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 13:37:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03323
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 13:37:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C676A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 19:56:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12479137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 19:56:16 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UNkGd16093 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:46:16 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UNkFOI028312 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:46:15 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301945510.20203-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:46:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1F9046.566149C@maynor.net>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I remembering finding A/C unnecessary in Knoxville.  But I lived there
>for just two years.

Ha! You are sometimes unreal, Natalie!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 13:39:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03327
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 13:39:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F324@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 19:52:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12479155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 19:57:39 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UNldd16177 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:47:39 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5UNlcOI028524 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:47:38 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301946560.20203-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:47:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206301836450.24244-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:

>> Implicit is the idea that humans have an obligation to live in
>> community. I believe that we do.
>
>I'd go for "propensity," "need," and for most "inescapable necessity," but
>not "obligation."  I would bless the hermits, if I had blessing
>capability.  Long live the possibility of happy hermithood!

Hermits definitely live in community - perhaps more than anyone.

Or are you using the term in a secular sense?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 13:39:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03331
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 13:39:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F325@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 19:52:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12479367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 19:57:56 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UNvud16726 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:57:56 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020630235750.WOCQ9178.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 23:57:50 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGMEJAFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:00:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1E796F.6865AAF0@valstar.net>

> Executors get paid by the estate.
>
> alyce

Only if the will makes such provisions.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 13:43:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03335
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 13:43:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C6793@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 20:01:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12479410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 20:01:54 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6101rd16927 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:01:53 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6101qY25416 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:01:52 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206301901300.24785-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:01:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301946560.20203-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> Hermits definitely live in community - perhaps more than anyone.
>
> Or are you using the term in a secular sense?

Secular.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 13:46:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03347
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 13:46:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F388@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 19:59:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12479471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 20:05:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6105Ed17121 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:05:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 18C908179; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 17:04:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020701000456.18C908179@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:04:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Kid's schoolbook
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1F99DC.1680A54D@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jun 30,
              2002  7:53: 0 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> 1938. Wonder how it would play now, with those cotton-picking Negroes
> singing and all.
> http://home.attbi.com/~gods/pibod.html
>
> Is Texas really like this?

I've never seen a field of cotton.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 13:47:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03351
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 13:47:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F3A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 20:01:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12479507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 20:06:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6106Od17173 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:06:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AC71383C9; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 17:06:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020701000623.AC71383C9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:06:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206301901300.24785-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jun 30, 2002  7: 1:52 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>
> > Hermits definitely live in community - perhaps more than anyone.
> >
> > Or are you using the term in a secular sense?
>
> Secular.

I didn't know there was a singular religious sense.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 13:56:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03355
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 13:56:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C67F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 20:14:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12479470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 20:14:55 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6104td17088 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:04:55 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6104sOI031689 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:04:54 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206302003500.29539-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:04:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206301901300.24785-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:

>> Hermits definitely live in community - perhaps more than anyone.
>>
>> Or are you using the term in a secular sense?
>
>Secular.

I don't know anything about that. But I suspect that they very much live
in community. I doubt that they provide for all their needs by themselves.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 13:59:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03362
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 13:59:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F437@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 20:12:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12479732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 20:18:11 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g610IBd17794 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:18:11 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws105-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.105]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g610I9Q11982
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:18:09 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301936310.20203-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1F9FBD.C2264397@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:18:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >So you also find questions on Words-L impositions?
>
> I certainly have not said that. Why do you think I have?

I was asking because you said d'accord to what Sandra had written.

> And I'll ask you what I just asked >her -- why does unwillingness to
> impose on others smack of an >unbenevolent view of the world?  I think my
> view of the world is rather >benevolent.
>
> It suggests that you see something negative about community, asking for
> help, reaching out, being known to need help, being willing to accept help
> - hence perhaps unwilling to offer it.

Why does not being willing to impose on anybody suggest seeing something
negative about community?  I don't get that at all.  I'm all for
community.  And I'm very definitely willing to offer help.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 14:02:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03375
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 14:02:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F45A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 20:15:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12479772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 20:20:54 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g610Ksd17919 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:20:54 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws105-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.105]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g610KqQ14556
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:20:52 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301945510.20203-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1FA060.8B9F6211@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:20:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >I remembering finding A/C unnecessary in Knoxville.  But I lived there
> >for just two years.
>
> Ha! You are sometimes unreal, Natalie!

Maybe the summers of '74 and '75 -- no wait -- '75 and '76 (I moved
there in August '74 and moved away in August '76) were exceptionally
cool.  I found Knoxville's summers not a/c-worthy.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 14:16:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03407
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 14:16:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F537@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 20:29:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12479909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 20:34:59 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g610Oxd18366 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:24:59 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g610OwOI002122 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:24:58 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206302017370.29539-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:24:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020701000623.AC71383C9@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>I didn't know there was a singular religious sense.

In the Christian tradition, it began with the the 4th c. desert fathers,
thus:

>>>(Eremites, "inhabitants of a desert", from the Greek eremos), also
called anchorites, were men [and women] who fled the society to dwell
alone in retirement. Not all of them, however, sought so complete a
solitude as to avoid absolutely any intercourse with others. Some took a
companion with them, generally a disciple; others remained close to
inhabited places, from which they procured their food.
etc.

These first solitaries, few in number, selected this mode of living on
their own initiative. It was St. Anthony who brought this kind of life
into vogue at the beginning of the fourth century. After the persecutions
the number of hermits increased greatly in Egypt, then in Palestine, then
in the Sinaitic peninsula, Mesopotamia, Syria, and Asia Minor. Cenobitic
communities sprang up among them, but did not become so important as to
extinguish the eremitic life. They continued to flourish in the Egyptian
deserts, not to speak of other localities. Discussions arose in Egypt as
to the respective merits of the cenobitic and the eremitic style of
life. Which was the better? Cassian, who voices the common opinion,
believed that the cenobitic life offered more advantages and less
inconveniences than the eremitic life.
etc.

The eremitic life spread to the West in the fourth century
etc.<<<

At the Abey of Gethsemani (Cistercian), monks must <earn> the right to
live as hermits by being disciplined members of the community for many
years first. And they do not live in isolation. They live on the grounds
and derive their food from the community. Some travel.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 14:19:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03411
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 14:19:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F559@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 20:32:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12480036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 20:38:13 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g610SDd18787 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:28:13 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g610SCOI002662 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:28:12 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206302025340.29539-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:28:12 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1F9FBD.C2264397@maynor.net>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>Why does not being willing to impose on anybody suggest seeing something
>negative about community?  I don't get that at all.  I'm all for
>community.  And I'm very definitely willing to offer help.

Two possibilities occur to me. You may think that you are too good to
receive help. That suggests that you think that you are in a different
communtity from everyone else - a <higher> community - and that others are
<lower> then you.

Or you may be afraid of letting people know that you need it - because you
fear that you will not get it - because you fear that people are not in
fact willing to help each other. That suggests a negative view of
others. Or of yourself.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 14:20:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03418
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 14:20:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F563@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 20:33:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12480168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 20:39:11 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f95.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.95]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g610dAd19390 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:39:10 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          30 Jun 2002 17:39:05 -0700
Received: from 207.162.163.19 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 01
          Jul 2002 00:39:04 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [207.162.163.19]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 00:39:05.0387 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[B41EE7B0:01C22097]
Message-ID:  <F95X6Mma0n7J95K7aI400002e81@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 00:39:04 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Rosemary
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Gone: Rosemary Clooney -- a great performer and Kentuckian.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 14:20:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03422
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 14:20:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F564@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 20:34:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12480172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 20:39:17 -0400
Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.12]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g610dHd19395 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          20:39:17 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17OpDo-0004mI-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun,
          30 Jun 2002 17:39:16 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301633340.27354-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <a05010431b9453807e603@[192.168.1.100]>
            <3D1F90D4.935D786@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010432b945542de8de@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:35:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1F90D4.935D786@maynor.net>

>Janet Hardy wrote:
>
>>  Well, FWIW, I was just out in San Francisco direct sunlight from
>>  about 10a-2p. It's a week from the solstice. I am fair-skinned. I
>>  wore no sunblock -- kept meaning to put some on, but never got around
>>  to it. The sunlight here is such that I seem to have a barely pinkish
>>  tone to my upper chest, and that's it.
>
>There's sunlight in SF?

Occasionally. Today was gorgeous -- sunny, mid-70s, light breeze.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 14:21:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03426
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 14:21:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F572@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 20:34:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12480193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 20:40:11 -0400
Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g610eBd19477 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          20:40:11 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-006neomahp0339.dialsprint.net ([63.186.49.85]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17OpEf-0008SN-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun,
          30 Jun 2002 20:40:09 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301936310.20203-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D1F9FBD.C2264397@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D1FA4F4.19AC1ACB@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:40:19 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Why does not being willing to impose on anybody suggest seeing something
> negative about community?  I don't get that at all.  I'm all for
> community.  And I'm very definitely willing to offer help.

Do you feel imposed on if someone asks you for help?

I've discovered that accepting help from others some times makes them
feel worthy. They feel better because they could help, so for their
benefit, so I willingly accept their help.

--
Sylvia Edwards
whose son may wish she'd ask for less

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 14:21:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03428
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 14:21:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C6893@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 20:40:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12480059 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 20:40:11 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g610UBd18942 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:30:11 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g610UAOI003037 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:30:10 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206302028220.29539-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:30:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1FA060.8B9F6211@maynor.net>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> >I remembering finding A/C unnecessary in Knoxville.  But I lived there
>> >for just two years.
>>
>> Ha! You are sometimes unreal, Natalie!
>
>Maybe the summers of '74 and '75 -- no wait -- '75 and '76 (I moved
>there in August '74 and moved away in August '76) were exceptionally
>cool.  I found Knoxville's summers not a/c-worthy.

So did you have your car A/C removed while you lived in Knoxville? Or did
you refrain from using it on trips?

I could not afford to put A/C in the house I owned on Atlantic Avenue
until the second year I owned it. I had to throw way a number of items
that were rtuined by mildew that first year.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 14:36:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03442
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 14:36:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F65B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 20:50:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12480321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 20:55:34 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g610jYd19924 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:45:34 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g610jXOI005331 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:45:33 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206302043120.29539-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:45:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      making groceries
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

There is a Walmart SuperCenter in Williamsburg, KY, 70 miles or one hour
and 15 min. (max) from Knoxville. It appears to be open 24/7.

I have room for a small chest freezer in my utility room. I think I'll
look for one this week.

Acc. to websites, KY has a 6% state sales tax and no local tax.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 14:47:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03467
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 14:47:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C692B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 21:05:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12480689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 21:05:46 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6115Kd21139 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 21:05:20 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020701010515.XXSE15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 01:05:15 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEJDFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 21:07:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: making groceries
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206302043120.29539-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

> I have room for a small chest freezer in my utility room. I think I'll
> look for one this week.

Costco has nice ones for about $200.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com
Oh, yes, Natalie, they still make simple refrigerators - that's what we
bought Granny for $429

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 14:58:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03474
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 14:58:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3F790@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 21:12:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12480820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 21:17:28 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g611HSd21752 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 21:17:28 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g611HQ128113 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:17:26 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206302015350.27954-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:17:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206302003500.29539-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> >Secular.
>
> I don't know anything about that. But I suspect that they very much live
> in community. I doubt that they provide for all their needs by themselves.

Whatever - I'm just saying I don't like the idea that they're ethically,
morally, religiously, however other than pragmatically, obliged to live in
community.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 15:03:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03490
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 15:03:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C698D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 21:22:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12480868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 21:22:04 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g611M4d22007 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 21:22:04 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g611M3u28182 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:22:03 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206302018450.27954-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:22:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206302025340.29539-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> >Why does not being willing to impose on anybody suggest seeing something
> >negative about community?  I don't get that at all.  I'm all for
> >community.  And I'm very definitely willing to offer help.
>
> Two possibilities occur to me. You may think that you are too good to
> receive help. That suggests that you think that you are in a different
> communtity from everyone else - a <higher> community - and that others are
> <lower> then you.

Hmmm this wouldn't ever occur to me, from what Natalie's described.
>
> Or you may be afraid of letting people know that you need it - because you
> fear that you will not get it - because you fear that people are not in
> fact willing to help each other. That suggests a negative view of
> others. Or of yourself.

This might occur to me.

What occurs to me first, is that she doesn't like the feeling of being
'beholden.'  That in fact she may *not* be asked to recriprocate, and will
carry some sort of nebulous debt that makes her anxious.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 15:05:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03497
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 15:05:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C699B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 21:23:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12480890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 21:23:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g611Nsd22072 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 21:23:54 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 571A98403; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 18:23:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020701012353.571A98403@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:23:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206302018450.27954-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jun 30, 2002  8:22: 2 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> What occurs to me first, is that she doesn't like the feeling of being
> 'beholden.'  That in fact she may *not* be asked to recriprocate, and will
> carry some sort of nebulous debt that makes her anxious.

Giri

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 16:01:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03555
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 16:01:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3FBA7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 22:15:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12482082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 22:20:18 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g612AHd25341 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 22:10:17 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g612AHOI018032 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 22:10:17 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206302208260.21601-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 22:10:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: making groceries
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEJDFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Adam Hartfield wrote:

>> I have room for a small chest freezer in my utility room. I think I'll
>> look for one this week.
>
>Costco has nice ones for about $200.

Adam, I wish there were a Costco within a couple hundred miles of
Knoxville - or closer! - unfortunately, according to websites I was able
to find, there is not. I'll check Sam's.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 16:19:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03572
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 16:19:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E3FCC6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 22:32:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12482829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 22:37:56 -0400
Received: from [216.138.220.251] (H251.C220.tor.velocet.net [216.138.220.251])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g612bud27249 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 22:37:56 -0400
Received: from Spooler by [216.138.220.251] (Mercury/32 v3.21c) ID MO000F46; 30
          Jun 02 22:38:38 -0400
Received: from spooler by [216.138.220.251] (Mercury/32 v3.21c); 30 Jun 02
          22:38:27 -0400
Received: from turvey (127.0.0.1) by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.21c) ID MG000F45; 30
          Jun 02 22:38:23 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEODFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d)
Message-ID:  <7AFADE9E6BB8@[216.138.220.251]>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 22:38:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301329170.25365-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

On 30 Jun 02, at 13:31, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> I am in the sun every day. I always use lotion. It does not prevent a very
> light tan from developing over the course of the year, but it sure helps
> preserve skin and health.

We may well look back on the days of sunblock lotions, SPF30,
and so on, much the way we do now to shoe store fluoroscopes,
bare-handed dentistry, casual use of antibiotics, and various
other things that make us shudder for their obvious personal
or societal dangerousness.

Almost all of the active ingredients in sunscreens are potent
mimics of sex hormones, among other things.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 17:11:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03647
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 17:10:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E406EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 23:24:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12488622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 23:29:21 -0400
Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g613TLd32597 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          23:29:21 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g613TKO409920 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          23:29:20 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEOPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:28:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020630203653.6E8D07E2C@yellow.rahul.net>

> S Hess said:
> > > On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, S Hess wrote:
> > >
> > > >I know we've covered this area before, Natalie. It's not that I can't
> > > >appreciate a person who takes pride in and strives to be
> > > self-reliant. But
> > > >your unwillingness to "impose" on others (and I think you do
> it just by
> > > >virtue of asking questions about things on this very list)
> > > rather smacks of
> > > >a unbenevolent view of the world. What is so awful about
> reaching out to
> > > >others?
> > >
> > > D'accord. In fact, I think one has an obligation to both reach out for
> > > and also provide help to community members.
> > >
> > > Bethany
> >
> > We disagree. I don't believe one has an *obligation* to "both
> reach out and
> > also provide help." Where'd you get that idea???
>
> The Golden Rule.
>
> Karen

I think the Golden Rule makes great sense, but I see it as a guideline for a
good life not an obligation.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 17:14:41 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03663
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 17:14:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA18454
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 22:20:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E406FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 23:26:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12488632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 23:31:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g613Vqd32715 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 23:31:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 14AC37FC1; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 20:31:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020701033152.14AC37FC1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:31:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEOPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jun 30, 2002  8:28:40 pm"

S Hess said:
> > S Hess said:
> > > > On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, S Hess wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I know we've covered this area before, Natalie. It's not that I can't
> > > > >appreciate a person who takes pride in and strives to be
> > > > self-reliant. But
> > > > >your unwillingness to "impose" on others (and I think you do
> > it just by
> > > > >virtue of asking questions about things on this very list)
> > > > rather smacks of
> > > > >a unbenevolent view of the world. What is so awful about
> > reaching out to
> > > > >others?
> > > >
> > > > D'accord. In fact, I think one has an obligation to both reach out for
> > > > and also provide help to community members.
> > > >
> > > > Bethany
> > >
> > > We disagree. I don't believe one has an *obligation* to "both
> > reach out and
> > > also provide help." Where'd you get that idea???
> >
> > The Golden Rule.
> >
> > Karen
>
> I think the Golden Rule makes great sense, but I see it as a guideline for a
> good life not an obligation.

Me, too. But it *is* an imperative.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 17:14:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03665
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 17:14:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4070E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 23:27:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12488639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 23:32:51 -0400
Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g613Wpd00301 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          23:32:51 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g613WpO250642 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          23:32:51 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEOPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:32:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301634290.27354-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

> On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, S Hess wrote:
>
> >We disagree. I don't believe one has an *obligation* to "both
> reach out and
> >also provide help." Where'd you get that idea???
>
> I do not know any other way for people in a community to know who the
> community members are except in terms of mutual help and mutual revelation
> of self. We all need help. That is a given. It is very hard for some
> individuals to let others know when they need help.
>
> My ideas were developed in many communities in several states and at least
> two countries - and in church communities, in AA, in academic life, in
> sports, etc.
>
> Bethany

Obligation begets resentment. Reaching out and helping others or receiving
help from others works best in a freely given, freely taken environment. I
think Natalie has the right to not want to give or take help, I just
question what philosophy of life she has adopted that makes her feel like a
nation of one.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 17:22:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03687
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 17:22:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C706D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 23:40:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12488720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 23:40:31 -0400
Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g613eVd00721 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          23:40:31 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g613eVO249238 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          23:40:31 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEPAFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:39:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a05010431b9453807e603@[192.168.1.100]>

It was a fabulous and sunny day even in the Sunset District. We had a
birthday party in someone's backyard which isn't always feasible in our
foggy region. It was just perfect. Just about everyone in the city today got
a little color.

Sandra

> >On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, S Hess wrote:
> >
> >>Oh, I'm covered. Literally. 8, 15, 25, & 48 SPF, depending.
> Never less than
> >  >8.
> >
> >Cool. I mean hot. I mean safe.
>
> Well, FWIW, I was just out in San Francisco direct sunlight from
> about 10a-2p. It's a week from the solstice. I am fair-skinned. I
> wore no sunblock -- kept meaning to put some on, but never got around
> to it. The sunlight here is such that I seem to have a barely pinkish
> tone to my upper chest, and that's it.
>
> Janet
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 17:23:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03694
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 17:23:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E40775@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 23:36:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12488746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 23:41:43 -0400
Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g613fhd00774 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          23:41:43 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g613fgO239904 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          23:41:42 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEPAFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:41:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1F8DA7.A45B7090@maynor.net>

> S Hess wrote:
>
> > I know we've covered this area before, Natalie. It's not that I can't
> > appreciate a person who takes pride in and strives to be
> self-reliant. But
> > your unwillingness to "impose" on others (and I think you do it just by
> > virtue of asking questions about things on this very list)
> rather smacks of
> > a unbenevolent view of the world. What is so awful about reaching out to
> > others?
>
> Did I say anything was awful about it?  I just said I don't do it.  And
> where does unbenevolence fit in?  And why do you consider asking
> questions on the list imposing?  Any posting is imposing, of course, in
> that it imposes itself upon the screens of other people.  I don't,
> however, see that as related to what I'm talking about.  Everybody has
> delete or kill-file power.  (Re pride, I do not take pride in
> self-reliance.  Pride has nothing to do with this topic.)
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

A million postings and I still don't seem to know you at all.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 17:25:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03698
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 17:25:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E40791@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 23:38:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12488758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 23:43:42 -0400
Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g613hfd00860 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          23:43:41 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g613hfO261486 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          23:43:41 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEPBFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:43:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Spreading The Word
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D1F9230.91A21E70@maynor.net>

I love this! And what a nice thing to do. I often leave books at my local
coffee house, but, inspired by Miss Natalie, I think I'll broaden my
distribution points.

Sandra

>
> Funny.  Just today (and yesterday) I put several hundred books on the
> bench in the hall -- our pass-along-books place.  I should've registered
> for Bookcrossing.  I've always liked leaving books in odd places, hoping
> that somebody will find them and enjoy them.  (Our hall is not an "odd
> place" exactly.  I'm thinking now about busses, trains, airports,
> hotels, etc.)  I also brought tons of books home, many of which I'm
> going to take to the public library for their book sales.  My junk room
> is piled miles high in books now.
>
> I ended up not throwing any books out of my office window today, btw.  I
> got worried that I might accidentally hit a squirrel and that PETA would
> be confused about whether to sue me or MSU.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 17:27:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03705
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 17:27:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E407B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 23:40:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12488770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 23:46:10 -0400
Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g613kAd00959 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          23:46:10 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g613k9O224736 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          23:46:09 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEPBFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:45:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020701033152.14AC37FC1@yellow.rahul.net>

Well, then I guess I'll be going straight to hell.

Sch.

> S Hess said:
> > > S Hess said:
> > > > > On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, S Hess wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >I know we've covered this area before, Natalie. It's not
> that I can't
> > > > > >appreciate a person who takes pride in and strives to be
> > > > > self-reliant. But
> > > > > >your unwillingness to "impose" on others (and I think you do
> > > it just by
> > > > > >virtue of asking questions about things on this very list)
> > > > > rather smacks of
> > > > > >a unbenevolent view of the world. What is so awful about
> > > reaching out to
> > > > > >others?
> > > > >
> > > > > D'accord. In fact, I think one has an obligation to both
> reach out for
> > > > > and also provide help to community members.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bethany
> > > >
> > > > We disagree. I don't believe one has an *obligation* to "both
> > > reach out and
> > > > also provide help." Where'd you get that idea???
> > >
> > > The Golden Rule.
> > >
> > > Karen
> >
> > I think the Golden Rule makes great sense, but I see it as a
> guideline for a
> > good life not an obligation.
>
> Me, too. But it *is* an imperative.
>
> Karen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 17:38:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03720
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 17:38:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E408F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Jun 2002 23:51:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12489372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30
          Jun 2002 23:57:09 -0400
Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g613v9d01938 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002
          23:57:09 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17OsJI-0003l2-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun,
          30 Jun 2002 23:57:08 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEODFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <7AFADE9E6BB8@[216.138.220.251]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010435b945829968bc@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:53:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tanning beds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <7AFADE9E6BB8@[216.138.220.251]>

>On 30 Jun 02, at 13:31, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>
>>  I am in the sun every day. I always use lotion. It does not prevent a very
>>  light tan from developing over the course of the year, but it sure helps
>>  preserve skin and health.
>
>We may well look back on the days of sunblock lotions, SPF30,
>and so on, much the way we do now to shoe store fluoroscopes,
>bare-handed dentistry, casual use of antibiotics, and various
>other things that make us shudder for their obvious personal
>or societal dangerousness.
>
>Almost all of the active ingredients in sunscreens are potent
>mimics of sex hormones, among other things.

Really?! I thought being in the sun just made me horny.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 19:37:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03893
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 19:37:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4139D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 1:50:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12493664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 01:55:51 -0400
Received: from color.sics.se (color.sics.se [193.10.66.199]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g615tpd11110 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 01:55:51 -0400
Received: from scheutz.sics.se (scheutz.sics.se [193.10.66.136]) by
          color.sics.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03846 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:55:50 +0200 (MET DST)
          env-to (<WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>) env-from (torkel@scheutz.sics.se)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <200207010555.HAA03846@color.sics.se>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:55:50 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Torkel Franzén <torkel@SICS.SE>
Subject:      Re: BradleyDale Sighting...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:10:31 EDT." 
              <5.1.0.14.0.20020630090949.009fc260@pop3.norton.antivirus>

 >How's the wife?  I think of her every time we go down to L.L.Bean.  How's
 >life with too many hours of daylight?

  She's fine, and buying stuff from both L.L.Bean and Victoria's Secret
over the net. By the way, I've figured out, by inspecting the models in
the hundreds of catalogues that Marcia gets, what Victoria's secret
is: she has no nipples. Summers with no darkness means that the cats
don't understand why we insist on sleeping even though it isn't night.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 19:43:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03967
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 19:43:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E414A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 1:57:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12494554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 02:02:25 -0400
Received: from color.sics.se (color.sics.se [193.10.66.199]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6162Od12766 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 02:02:25 -0400
Received: from scheutz.sics.se (scheutz.sics.se [193.10.66.136]) by
          color.sics.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03987 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:02:24 +0200 (MET DST)
          env-to (<WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>) env-from (torkel@scheutz.sics.se)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <200207010602.IAA03987@color.sics.se>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:02:24 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Torkel Franzén <torkel@SICS.SE>
Subject:      Re: BradleyDale Sighting...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:54:35 CDT." 
              <3D1F8C2B.6F9D58A9@maynor.net>

 >Aha.  What better way to lure Bradykins from hiding than a posting from
 >Torkelykins!

  If Brad is indeed alive, and not standing stuffed in Colonel Hannum's
garden, I think he would be foolish indeed to allow himself to get
dragged into the open and bombarded with bradykinisms. If alive, he
slinks shrewdly through the underbrush, free as the stoat (mustela
erminea) or the weasel (mustela nivalis).

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 20:59:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04057
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 20:59:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C79C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 3:17:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12496238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 03:17:30 -0400
Received: from mail8.wlv.netzero.net (mail8.wlv.netzero.net [209.247.163.58])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g617HTd17715 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 03:17:29 -0400
Received: (qmail 5880 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2002 07:17:22 -0000
Received: from 1cust214.tnt4.lexington.ky.da.uu.net (HELO computer)
          (65.238.133.214) by mail8.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 1 Jul 2002
          07:17:22 -0000
References: <6E0CB452.0AC9DCD4.0099AB05@netscape.net> 
            <3D1E4F6D.AB98C6B3@maynor.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000501c220d1$b81c20a0$d685ee41@computer>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 03:34:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bogris01 <bogris01@NETZERO.NET>
Subject:      Re: BradleyDale Sighting...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> jbh wrote:
> >  He says he reads every word, everyday.
>
> How tacky of him not to speak when spoken to!!  I'm feeling
> disillusioned!
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Don't be disillusioned, Miss Natalie!  There's a technical term
for my condition: it's called "lassitude".

It was a great treat to see Hannum.  But you need to get our
ranks right, Natalie.  I am now a brevet brigadier, and John has
been promoted to Lieutenant Colonel.

I see that Dr. Franzen has emerged from obscurity.  I think of
Torkel and Marcia every day.  Daddy keeps this house ice-cold,
and I tell Mother, "It's like living in the Arctic Circle".

Sister Kay will arrive for her summer visit this week, and will
post to the list.

Bradley Dale

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 23:01:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA04212
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 25 May 1960 23:01:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E41B28@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 5:14:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12497508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 05:19:47 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g619Jkd23830 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 05:19:46 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <MYWW1YSA>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:19:45 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id MYWW1YR0; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:19:38 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <20020628215053.8D75F7FF1@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020628174826.00a151f0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020701111859.02811f88@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:19:29 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020628152055.00ac6ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

15:22 28.06.2002 -0700 skrev Betty:
>At 02:50 PM 6/28/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>bonniev said:
>> > >I think you should all phone me on July 4th since I'm going to be
>> > >stuck at home waiting for Wordslers to show up.
>> > >Karen
>> >
>> > O.k.  Post a phone number and wait by the phone.
>>
>>512-977-8817.
>
>I have the shirt design.  You can see it here.
>
>http://home.attbi.com/~lgclark/batfest.htm

I want one.

Espen - in Graz on the 4th

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 00:46:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA04337
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 00:46:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E41D0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 6:59:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12498941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 07:04:26 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61B4Qd10370 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:04:26 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws82-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.82]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61B4NQ17375
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:04:24 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206302025340.29539-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D203734.5ED59957@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:04:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
> >Why does not being willing to impose on anybody suggest seeing something
> >negative about community?  I don't get that at all.  I'm all for
> >community.  And I'm very definitely willing to offer help.
>
> Two possibilities occur to me. You may think that you are too good to
> receive help. That suggests that you think that you are in a different
> communtity from everyone else - a <higher> community - and that others are
> <lower> then you.
>
> Or you may be afraid of letting people know that you need it - because you
> fear that you will not get it - because you fear that people are not in
> fact willing to help each other. That suggests a negative view of
> others. Or of yourself.

Not being much of a navel-dweller, I don't know exactly what motivates
my feelings, but I'd say probably it's something similar to the first
possibility you named except for one important difference -- that my
community is <lower>, not <higher>.  I don't see myself as important
enough to be worth somebody's spending time or effort on my behalf.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 00:47:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA04341
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 00:46:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E41D13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 7:00:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12498951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 07:05:22 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61B5Md10419 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:05:22 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws82-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.82]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61B5KQ17533
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:05:20 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206302028220.29539-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D20376C.90429D66@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:05:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> So did you have your car A/C removed while you lived in Knoxville? Or did
> you refrain from using it on trips?

There was no A/C in our car.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 00:50:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA04345
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 00:50:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C7F90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 7:09:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12499012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 07:09:06 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61B96d10596 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:09:06 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws82-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.82]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61B94Q18014
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:09:04 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301936310.20203-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D1F9FBD.C2264397@maynor.net>
            <3D1FA4F4.19AC1ACB@pop.mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D20384C.95A99C21@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:09:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sylvia Edwards wrote:

> Do you feel imposed on if someone asks you for help?

No.

> I've discovered that accepting help from others some times makes them
> feel worthy. They feel better because they could help, so for their
> benefit, so I willingly accept their help.

We may be talking about slightly different things here.  You're talking
about accepting help.  If help is offered and I believe it to be sincere
and I don't think it would require the offerer to go really out of
his/her way to give it, then I do accept it.  What I said I don't do is
ask for help.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 00:51:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA04352
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 00:51:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C7F96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 7:10:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12498891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 07:10:06 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61B06d29940 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:00:06 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g61B05OI024579 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:00:06 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207010658080.2887-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:00:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEOPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, S Hess wrote:

>Obligation begets resentment.

Your experience? Not mine.

 Reaching out and helping others or receiving
>help from others works best in a freely given, freely taken environment. I
>think Natalie has the right to not want to give or take help, I just
>question what philosophy of life she has adopted that makes her feel like a
>nation of one.

And here is where we are in agreement - in recognizing that refusing to
accept help does indeed made one appear to be a "nation of one." Good
phrase,

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 00:52:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA04356
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 00:52:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C7F98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 7:10:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12499031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 07:10:50 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61BAnd10676 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:10:49 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws82-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.82]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61BAlQ18211
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:10:48 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0206302018450.27954-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2038B4.209740C7@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:10:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> What occurs to me first, is that she doesn't like the feeling of being
> 'beholden.'  That in fact she may *not* be asked to recriprocate, and will
> carry some sort of nebulous debt that makes her anxious.

Something like that.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 00:54:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA04360
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 00:54:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E41D46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 7:07:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12499130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 07:12:44 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61BChd10904 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:12:44 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws82-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.82]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61BCfQ18409
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:12:42 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206302208260.21601-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D203926.C169ADDB@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:12:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: making groceries
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> Adam, I wish there were a Costco within a couple hundred miles of
> Knoxville - or closer! - unfortunately, according to websites I was able
> to find, there is not. I'll check Sam's.

I don't know exactly how many miles it is from Knoxville to Huntsville,
but I'm thinking that it may be no more than two hundred.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 00:56:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA04364
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 00:56:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E41D47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 7:09:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12499136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 07:14:30 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61BETd11087 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:14:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws82-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.82]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61BERQ18663
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:14:28 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206302208260.21601-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D203990.CCF2785A@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:14:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: making groceries
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> Adam, I wish there were a Costco within a couple hundred miles of
> Knoxville - or closer! - unfortunately, according to websites I was able

It's 175 miles to Hville, according to this chart:
http://www.ersys.com/usa/47/4740000/distance.htm

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 01:01:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA04376
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 01:01:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E41D66@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 7:14:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12499236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 07:19:39 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61BJcd11411 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:19:38 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws82-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.82]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61BJaQ19268
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:19:37 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEOPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D203AC5.48ADF822@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:19:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:

> think Natalie has the right to not want to give or take help, I just
> question what philosophy of life she has adopted that makes her feel like a
> nation of one.

I'm not sure why not wanting to give help is mentioned since that's
never been part of my philosophy or habits.  My philosophy that you're
asking about is don't be a bother to anybody.  It's pretty simple
really.  It's the same reason I hate making phone calls.  E-mail is
totally different since it's not intrusive.  People can read it at their
convenience or not read it at all.  I don't want to cause a telephone to
ring, possibly inconveniencing somebody.  I think I've mentioned before
that I don't mind calling a place of business as much as calling an
individual, although I'm not crazy about calling even a place of
business.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 01:05:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA04380
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 01:05:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C7FE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 7:23:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12499267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 07:23:23 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61BNMd12008 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:23:22 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws82-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.82]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61BNKQ19677
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:23:21 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEPBFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D203BA5.EB020AE4@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:23:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Spreading The Word
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:
>
> I love this! And what a nice thing to do. I often leave books at my local
> coffee house, but, inspired by Miss Natalie, I think I'll broaden my
> distribution points.

I stopped leaving them in airplane pockets because somebody told me that
the cleaning people probably just throw them away.  Instead I leave them
on tables or chairs in waiting areas in airports, although I worry there
also that they might get tossed by the cleaning people.   And instead of
leaving them in hotel rooms, as I used to do, I tend now to leave them
in the lobby.  Sometimes in small hotels I'll give them to the desk
clerks and tell them to pass them along.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 01:07:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA04387
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 01:07:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E41D7A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 7:20:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12499299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 07:25:32 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61BPWd12142 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:25:32 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws82-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.82]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61BPUQ19933
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:25:30 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <6E0CB452.0AC9DCD4.0099AB05@netscape.net>
            <3D1E4F6D.AB98C6B3@maynor.net>
            <000501c220d1$b81c20a0$d685ee41@computer>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D203C27.953FD092@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:25:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: BradleyDale Sighting...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bogris01 wrote:

> Don't be disillusioned, Miss Natalie!  There's a technical term
> for my condition: it's called "lassitude".

Yes, yes, yes!!  I can now log off felling warm and fuzzy.  Bradykins
lives.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 02:22:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04509
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 02:22:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E420D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 8:35:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12501345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 08:40:23 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61CUMd18471 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:30:23 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g61CUMOI006353 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:30:22 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207010827580.24713-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:30:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D20384C.95A99C21@maynor.net>

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>We may be talking about slightly different things here.  You're talking
>about accepting help.  If help is offered and I believe it to be sincere
>and I don't think it would require the offerer to go really out of
>his/her way to give it, then I do accept it.  What I said I don't do is
>ask for help.

Grrr! You and my mother would really get along! It seems clear that on top
of everything else everybody around you also has to be a mind-reader -
otherwise, how would anyone KNOW that you need help - since you never ask
for it, decline to make phone calls, etc.

(Have you read the New Testament recently?)

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 02:27:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04538
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 02:27:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E42144@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 8:40:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12501604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 08:45:53 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61CZrd19163 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:35:53 -0400
Received: from host101-228.pool22816.interbusiness.it
          (host101-228.pool22816.interbusiness.it [80.16.228.101] (may be
          forged)) by pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id
          g61CZkw21834; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:35:47 -0400
X-Authentication-Warning: pasta.cc.uga.edu:
                         host101-228.pool22816.interbusiness.it [80.16.228.101]
                         (may be forged) didn't use HELO protocol
X-Encoding: MIME
Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by HOBT9HA.uga.cc.uga.edu with SMTP for
          wveal@uga.cc.uga.edu; Mon, 01 Jul 2002 08:36:46 -0500
X-Sender: utmjb.bitne@uga.cc.uga.edu
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <B7PUXP0T8.3MCC5F0M2M3A52HW8.utmjb.bitne@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:36:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: utmjb.bitne@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
Subject:      Lowest Mortgage Rates Around
Comments: To: wveal@uga.cc.uga.edu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

We will help you get the mortgage loan you want!

Only takes 2 minutes to fill out our form.
http://www.123turbo.com/index.php

Whether a new home loan is what you seek or to refinance your current home =
loan
at a lower interest rate and payment, we can help!

Mortgage rates haven't been this low in the last 12 months, take action now!
Refinance your home with us and include all of those pesky credit card bills =
or
use the extra cash for that pool you've always wanted...

Where others says NO, we say YES!!!
Even if you have been turned down elsewhere, we can help!

Easy terms! Our mortgage referral service combines the
highest quality loans with most economical rates and the easiest =
qualification!

Click Here to fill out our form.
http://www.123turbo.com/index.php

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 02:55:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04567
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 02:55:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E423A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 9:08:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12502871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 09:14:12 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61D4Cd22074 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:04:12 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g61D4BOI013406 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:04:11 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207010858010.25230-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:04:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D203AC5.48ADF822@maynor.net>

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>I'm not sure why not wanting to give help is mentioned since that's
>never been part of my philosophy or habits.  My philosophy that you're
>asking about is don't be a bother to anybody.  It's pretty simple
>really.  It's the same reason I hate making phone calls.  E-mail is
>totally different since it's not intrusive.  People can read it at their
>convenience or not read it at all.  I don't want to cause a telephone to
>ring, possibly inconveniencing somebody.  I think I've mentioned before
>that I don't mind calling a place of business as much as calling an
>individual, although I'm not crazy about calling even a place of
>business.

It seems to me that you not only expect others to read your mind, you also
assume that you can read the minds of others. With all respect, I
suggest that you cannot. Again, you remind me of my mother. She is
positive she knows when something would be an inconvenience to someone
else - without ever bothering to ASK. It is often an inconvenience or
worse to people when the telephone does NOT ring, the email does NOT
arrive, one is NOT invited, one's help is NOT requested, etc.

Communication is a wonderful thing - I think we should try it more often
than we do. Mileage on all these matters varies greatly.

But I know that we have here an example of what Tannen has called high
politeness. Or maybe it was all the ChiO training.

But my mother was not a ChiO!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 03:07:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA04582
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 03:07:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E424E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 9:20:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12504360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 09:26:12 -0400
Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g61DQBd25427 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:26:11
          -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0464.dialsprint.net ([63.190.1.210]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17P1Bx-0005OY-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 09:26:10 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301936310.20203-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D1F9FBD.C2264397@maynor.net>
            <3D1FA4F4.19AC1ACB@pop.mindspring.com>
            <3D20384C.95A99C21@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D20586C.957C206D@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:26:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Sylvia Edwards wrote:
>
> > Do you feel imposed on if someone asks you for help?
>
> No.

> We may be talking about slightly different things here.  You're talking
> about accepting help.  If help is offered and I believe it to be sincere
> and I don't think it would require the offerer to go really out of
> his/her way to give it, then I do accept it.  What I said I don't do is
> ask for help.

I was thinking about imposing and being imposed upon when I asked the
question.  If you don't feel imposed upon when asked for help, why
conclude that when you ask for help you are imposing on another?

I don't have the answer to that question... it's something I puzzle
over. I can accept help, but I detest having to ask for help.  At times
I have no choice and I have to ask for help.  I'm working to convince
myself that asking for help provides a positive benefit for another...
Your notion that asking is an imposition doesn't help me ... understand..

the paradox of charity...

--
Sylvia Edwards
Litopia    http://www.edwardsly.com
Sylvie's Place    http://www.geocities.com/s.words/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 05:03:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06177
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 05:03:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E43106@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:16:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12513369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 11:21:39 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f285.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61FLcd13817 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:21:39 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 08:21:33 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 15:21:33 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 15:21:33.0441 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[FB9EC710:01C22112]
Message-ID:  <F285ZssJbBVVI6x9isZ000033ad@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:21:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Saturday
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
>Plus, the pie in the outhouse is on Sunday mornings.

FTR, Bruce and I ate blueberry pie for breakfast on Sunday.

Not in the outhouse, though.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 05:05:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06181
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 05:05:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000C916E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:23:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12513458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 11:23:30 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f270.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.145]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61FNUd14015 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:23:30 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 08:23:25 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 15:23:24 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 15:23:25.0040 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[3E236F00:01C22113]
Message-ID:  <F270tBYwbZdtHDFPMnl000030a0@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:23:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Is this for real?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
>Me too, actually -- but I don't delude myself that it's a
>particularly flattering look. Sandra and I are both well-padded
>women, which gives that oh-so-attractive bulgy look to the backs of
>the knees, and we both live in sunless San Francisco, which further
>ensures that the aforementioned bulges are the approximate hue of
>unbaked bread dough. Natalie would not approve.

Get thee to the Lancome counter!

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 05:15:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06202
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 05:15:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4322E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:28:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12514389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 11:33:50 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f113.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.113]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61FXod16306 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:33:50 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 08:33:45 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 15:33:44 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 15:33:45.0164 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[AFC2D8C0:01C22114]
Message-ID:  <F113DPHprp5yLZ86BSq000031c0@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:33:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: BradleyDale Sighting...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Torkel Franzén <torkel@SICS.SE>I've figured out, by inspecting the
>models in
>the hundreds of catalogues that Marcia gets, what Victoria's secret
>is: she has no nipples

:-)  Hi Torkel! Good to hear from you. Hello to Marcia.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 05:31:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06223
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 05:31:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E433E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:44:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12515814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 11:49:51 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61Fnpd19675 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:49:51 -0400
Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu
          (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61FnnQ08317 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 10:49:49 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207010827580.24713-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D207A1D.1DAB5C13@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 10:49:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >We may be talking about slightly different things here.  You're talking
> >about accepting help.  If help is offered and I believe it to be sincere
> >and I don't think it would require the offerer to go really out of
> >his/her way to give it, then I do accept it.  What I said I don't do is
> >ask for help.
>
> Grrr! You and my mother would really get along! It seems clear that on top
> of everything else everybody around you also has to be a mind-reader -
> otherwise, how would anyone KNOW that you need help - since you never ask
> for it, decline to make phone calls, etc.

Why do you think I expect people to read my mind and know I need help?  I've
said nothing at all to suggest that.  I've simply said that I don't
necessarily feel bad about accepting offered help.  I still remember that nice
man in NYC who turned around when he saw me struggling with a suitcase up the
stairs from a subway station, grabbed it, and ran up the stairs with it for
me.  Actually, now that I think about it, he didn't give me a chance to say no
to his offer.  Anyway, my point is that saying that I will accept unsolicited
help is not saying that I *expect* it.  I don't expect it at all.

> (Have you read the New Testament recently?)

No.  Why?
--
   -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

PS:  It just occurred to me that I think I left unread mail popped onto my
home computer.  So I guess I'm jumping in midstream here (in my office).

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 05:38:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06227
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 05:38:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E43496@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:51:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12516288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 11:56:57 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61Fuvd20684 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:56:57 -0400
Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu
          (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61FuuQ10507 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 10:56:56 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207010858010.25230-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D207BC7.5DAE34C6@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 10:56:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> >I'm not sure why not wanting to give help is mentioned since that's
> >never been part of my philosophy or habits.  My philosophy that you're
> >asking about is don't be a bother to anybody.  It's pretty simple
> >really.  It's the same reason I hate making phone calls.  E-mail is
> >totally different since it's not intrusive.  People can read it at their
> >convenience or not read it at all.  I don't want to cause a telephone to
> >ring, possibly inconveniencing somebody.  I think I've mentioned before
> >that I don't mind calling a place of business as much as calling an
> >individual, although I'm not crazy about calling even a place of
> >business.
>
> It seems to me that you not only expect others to read your mind, you also
> assume that you can read the minds of others. With all respect, I
> suggest that you cannot.

It seems to me that you are making enormous leaps from what I've said.  I
neither expect others to read my mind nor do I assume I can read theirs.  Why
do you think I think these things?

> Again, you remind me of my mother. She is
> positive she knows when something would be an inconvenience to someone
> else - without ever bothering to ASK.

Why do I remind you of your mother?  I don't know when something would be an
inconvenience to someone else.  I do know what kinds of things might be
inconveniences to some people.  Telephone calls are one of them.

> It is often an inconvenience or
> worse to people when the telephone does NOT ring, the email does NOT
> arrive, one is NOT invited, one's help is NOT requested, etc.

I can understand how it might be an inconvenience for a phone not to ring when
you're expecting a specific call with requested information or some such.  I
always return phone calls.  I'm not sure what you mean by not being invited.
I invite people to various things.  And I can't imagine why it would be an
inconvenience not to have one's help requested.  I can understand how it would
not necessarily be an inconvenience if it is asked, but how the asking turns
into a convenience and the not asking into an inconvenience is beyond my
ability to figure out.
--
   -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 05:40:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06234
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 05:40:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E434A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:53:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12516348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 11:58:23 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61FwMd20867 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:58:22 -0400
Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu
          (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61FwJQ11370 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 10:58:20 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301936310.20203-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D1F9FBD.C2264397@maynor.net>
            <3D1FA4F4.19AC1ACB@pop.mindspring.com>
            <3D20384C.95A99C21@maynor.net>
            <3D20586C.957C206D@pop.mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D207C1B.20165F40@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 10:58:19 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sylvia Edwards wrote:

> .  If you don't feel imposed upon when asked for help, why
> conclude that when you ask for help you are imposing on another?

Because it might be.  I don't assume that everybody has the same reactions to
things that I have.

--
   -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 06:43:44 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06316
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 06:43:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24182
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:47:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000C998B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:59:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12520408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 12:59:21 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61GxLd29779 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:59:21 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g61GxK5G019137 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:59:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020701095832.00a54320@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:59:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Fires
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Now South Dakota is burning!  How is the smoke in your state this morning,
John?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 06:53:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06333
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 06:53:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E43C01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:06:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12521406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 13:11:41 -0400
Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61HBed32012 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:11:41 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.1] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYK00LQRYFFUQ@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 01 Jul 2002 10:11:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
References: <F270tBYwbZdtHDFPMnl000030a0@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <a04310100b9463dc7422e@[192.168.1.1]>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 10:13:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Is this for real?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F270tBYwbZdtHDFPMnl000030a0@hotmail.com>

>>From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
>>Me too, actually -- but I don't delude myself that it's a
>>particularly flattering look. Sandra and I are both well-padded
>>women, which gives that oh-so-attractive bulgy look to the backs of
>>the knees, and we both live in sunless San Francisco, which further
>>ensures that the aforementioned bulges are the approximate hue of
>>unbaked bread dough. Natalie would not approve.
>
>Get thee to the Lancome counter!

I do use self-tanners sometimes, mostly to accentuate the brand.
("Brand batik" -- my own invention. Apply self-tanner, then take a
moist, soapy Q-tip and trace the brand to remove the self-tanner.)
But I've never found the right sequence for doing it -- one or two
days makes a nice look but fades rather quickly; more than two days
and it starts getting blotchy and crackly. Mostly I don't bother,
except for special occasions.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 06:59:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06340
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 06:59:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E43CC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:12:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12521956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 13:18:10 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f105.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.105]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61HI9d00769 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:18:09 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 10:18:04 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 17:18:04 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 17:18:04.0469 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[4298FE50:01C22123]
Message-ID:  <F105JWEsBk31TZ14eBa00003316@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:18:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
>"diet," except that I have been eating a lot of popcorn. Don't know that
>it is fattening, though. I did buy a half gallon of ice cream yesterday,
>but did not open it.

Bread and pasta, Alyce.  You could even keep bread right there with you at
the computer.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:07:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06369
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:07:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E43D4C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:20:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12522374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 13:25:42 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f101.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61HPgd02023 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:25:42 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 10:25:37 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 17:25:36 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 17:25:37.0281 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[507E9F10:01C22124]
Message-ID:  <F101cvgvkSqNVAp0sX50000338b@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:25:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

On the evening of the Fourth, me, *uc* and our KI pills are going down to
the river to watch the fireworks over Peekskill.

Marie



_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:11:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06377
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:11:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E43DB4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:23:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12522697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 13:29:13 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f30.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61HTCd02911 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:29:12 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 10:29:07 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 17:29:06 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 17:29:07.0298 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[CDACAC20:01C22124]
Message-ID:  <F30ABZTW5k1Ed28kIN400000119@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:29:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tanning Bed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
>Who determines safe?  None is better.  The lotions and creams have been
>greatly improved.

My Lancome product is a spray. And it's SPF 15.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:11:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06385
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:11:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E43DBB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:24:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12522720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 13:29:44 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g61HThd02965 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:29:43
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g61HThA347242 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          13:29:43 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEPMFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 10:28:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Is this for real?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a04310100b9463dc7422e@[192.168.1.1]>

> >Get thee to the Lancome counter!
>
> I do use self-tanners sometimes, mostly to accentuate the brand.
> ("Brand batik" -- my own invention. Apply self-tanner, then take a
> moist, soapy Q-tip and trace the brand to remove the self-tanner.)
> But I've never found the right sequence for doing it -- one or two
> days makes a nice look but fades rather quickly; more than two days
> and it starts getting blotchy and crackly. Mostly I don't bother,
> except for special occasions.
>
> Janet

I'm going to give self-tanning a try tomorrow so my legs will have some
color when I go up to Tahoe (Wed-Sun) with the new guy in my life....my MOFW
(Man Of Few Words). I seem to get color everywhere but on my legs and
someone said it has something to do with shaving them all the time and so
they don't get tan. That doesn't make sense to me but they don't seem to tan
much...so I'll give Coppertone tan-in-a-bottle a go. I hear Costco carries
it. Time for a Costco run :)  Maybe I'll pick up some beef jerky and light
carb protein bars.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:36:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06455
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:36:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000C9E60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:54:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12524391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 13:54:15 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f79.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.79]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61HsEd07224 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:54:14 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 10:54:09 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 17:54:08 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 17:54:09.0104 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[4CD21500:01C22128]
Message-ID:  <F79bBVVI6x9isZ24dsP00002254@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:54:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: loosestrife
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Alyce, It's only the purple loosestrife that you're concerned about, right?
I was buying plants yesterday (astilbe, a butterfly bush, some
yarrow, some ladies' mantle and something else), and they had a yellow
variety of loosestrife...a problem as well? I didn't buy any.

Marie

>From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: loosestrife
>Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:57:30 -0400
>
>Hudsonia, which is a part of Bard College that studies the Hudson's
>estuaries and life therein, has found that loosestrife may not be all
>bad. They got a grant and did a study. Found that it may be bad for
>certain rare species of other plants, but on the good side--white-tailed
>deer graze the tops of the flowers, it provide nectar for many kinds of
>butterflies, and the plants provide suppport for woody and herbaceous
>vines. So now you know. This does not mean that it is good to plant more
>of it, however.
>
>alyce
>--
>alyce cresap, books & ephemera
>po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
>518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
>http://www.alybooks.com
>charter member: IOBA
>independent on-line booksellers association
>selling books since 1963




Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:38:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06462
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:38:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4403D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:50:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12524491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 13:56:13 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61HuCd07415 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:56:12 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id KAA86713 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          10:56:12 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g61HuDd07428
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207011047020.73598-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 10:56:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F105JWEsBk31TZ14eBa00003316@hotmail.com>

I haven't been following the thread.  Is Alyce trying to gain weight?
Have you tried nuts?  They're an excellent nibble food, high in calories,
and relatively healthy (especially almonds).  They have "good" cholestrol,
rather than the "bad."

Sharon

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Marie Ascher wrote:

> >From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
> >"diet," except that I have been eating a lot of popcorn. Don't know that
> >it is fattening, though. I did buy a half gallon of ice cream yesterday,
> >but did not open it.
>
> Bread and pasta, Alyce.  You could even keep bread right there with you at
> the computer.
>
> Marie
>    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> http://www.hotmail.com
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:40:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06469
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:40:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E44081@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:53:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12524664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 13:59:07 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f228.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.228]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61Hx6d07847 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:59:06 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 10:59:01 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 17:59:01 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 17:59:01.0359 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[FB04A7F0:01C22128]
Message-ID:  <F228xYH7x0JY9nIvx7O00003555@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:59:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I was just thinking that Alyce ought to spread some peanut butter on the
bread.

Marie


>From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: What is everybody doing?
>Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 10:56:12 -0700
>
>I haven't been following the thread.  Is Alyce trying to gain weight?
>Have you tried nuts?  They're an excellent nibble food, high in calories,
>and relatively healthy (especially almonds).  They have "good" cholestrol,
>rather than the "bad."
>
>Sharon
>
>On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> > >From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
> > >"diet," except that I have been eating a lot of popcorn. Don't know
>that
> > >it is fattening, though. I did buy a half gallon of ice cream
>yesterday,
> > >but did not open it.
> >
> > Bread and pasta, Alyce.  You could even keep bread right there with you
>at
> > the computer.
> >
> > Marie
> >    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> > http://www.hotmail.com
> >




Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:42:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06476
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:42:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E440BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:55:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12524765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:00:47 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61I0ld08055 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:00:47 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust89.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.91]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004925874@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:00:44 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F79bBVVI6x9isZ24dsP00002254@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2098CE.DBF5F124@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:00:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: loosestrife
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> Alyce, It's only the purple loosestrife that you're concerned about, right?

Yes. Never heard of yellow. I love ladies' mantle--such a pretty shape
and pale green color.

alyce
--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:44:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06484
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:44:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E440F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:57:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12524921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:02:58 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61I2wd08451 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:02:58 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g61I2w7Y432606 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          14:02:58 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000201c22129$886b8a00$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:02:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F101cvgvkSqNVAp0sX50000338b@hotmail.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marie Ascher
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 1:26 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: What is everybody doing?
>
>
> On the evening of the Fourth, me, *uc* and our KI pills are
> going down to the river to watch the fireworks over Peekskill.
>
> Marie
>
>
What are KI pills?

Alec


------------
Alec D. Plotkin
plotkina@isc.upenn.edu

"Peace cannot be kept by force.  It can only be achieved by
understanding" - Albert Einstein

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:45:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06493
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:45:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4410E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:58:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12524999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:04:07 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61I47d08682 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:04:07 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust89.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.91]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003618173@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:03:51 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207011047020.73598-100000@idiom.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D209988.44D5560F@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:03:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sharon Ziperovich wrote:
>
> I haven't been following the thread.  Is Alyce trying to gain weight?

Yep. Just a little bit, maybe 5 pounds.

I like nuts. But they have been limited to Hershey Almond Bars. I eat
one 7oz. bar each night. For a time I was eating large quantities of
salted peanuts, but got out of the habit.

Today I have had two glazed donut "holes." May have another soon.

alyce


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:46:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06497
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:46:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E44114@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:59:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12525023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:04:29 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g61I4Td08741 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:04:29
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g61I4SA75888 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          14:04:28 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEPPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:03:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F228xYH7x0JY9nIvx7O00003555@hotmail.com>

smart thinking!!! I'll go ya one better. My grandma used to butter her bread
before spreading peanut butter on it. A double caloric whammy. I thought it
was very odd.

Sandra

>
> I was just thinking that Alyce ought to spread some peanut butter on the
> bread.
>
> Marie
>
 >I haven't been following the thread.  Is Alyce trying to gain weight?
> >Have you tried nuts?  They're an excellent nibble food, high in calories,
> >and relatively healthy (especially almonds).  They have "good"
> cholestrol,
> >rather than the "bad."
> >
> >Sharon
> >
> >On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Marie Ascher wrote:
> >
> > > >From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
> > > >"diet," except that I have been eating a lot of popcorn. Don't know
> >that
> > > >it is fattening, though. I did buy a half gallon of ice cream
> >yesterday,
> > > >but did not open it.
> > >
> > > Bread and pasta, Alyce.  You could even keep bread right
> there with you
> >at
> > > the computer.
> > >
> > > Marie
> > >    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> > > http://www.hotmail.com
> > >
>
>
>
>
> Marie
>    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:46:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06501
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:46:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4411C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:59:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12525049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:05:07 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f9.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.9]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61I57d08826 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:05:07 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 11:05:02 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 18:05:01 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 18:05:02.0057 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[D202CD90:01C22129]
Message-ID:  <F9pyLAPDVXLuSbh29cM000035bb@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:05:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: loosestrife
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
>Marie Ascher wrote:
> >
> > Alyce, It's only the purple loosestrife that you're concerned about,
>right?
>
>Yes. Never heard of yellow. I love ladies' mantle--such a pretty shape
>and pale green color.

I love it too and apparently the deer don't.

Marie

_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:47:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06505
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:47:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4411E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:59:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12525053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:05:13 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g61I5Dd08838 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:05:13
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g61I5CA102876 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          14:05:12 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEAAFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:04:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D209988.44D5560F@valstar.net>

Forget the holes. Eat a donut or three.

Sandra
>
> Sharon Ziperovich wrote:
> >
> > I haven't been following the thread.  Is Alyce trying to gain weight?
>
> Yep. Just a little bit, maybe 5 pounds.
>
> I like nuts. But they have been limited to Hershey Almond Bars. I eat
> one 7oz. bar each night. For a time I was eating large quantities of
> salted peanuts, but got out of the habit.
>
> Today I have had two glazed donut "holes." May have another soon.
>
> alyce
>
>
> --
> alyce cresap, books & ephemera
> po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
> 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
> http://www.alybooks.com
> charter member: IOBA
> independent on-line booksellers association
> selling books since 1963
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:48:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06514
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:48:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4413A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:01:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12525149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:06:29 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61I6Td09044 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:06:29 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust89.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.91]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004926008@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:06:20 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F228xYH7x0JY9nIvx7O00003555@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D209A1E.BC27D3E3@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:06:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> I was just thinking that Alyce ought to spread some peanut butter on the
> bread.

Yes, I should. I just don't get around to it. I just cannot describe how
much I detest preparing food. Should see a shrink about it, if I could
afford to.

alyce

--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:48:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06518
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:48:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E44141@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:01:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12525173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:06:48 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f60.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.60]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61I6md09095 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:06:48 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 11:06:43 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 18:06:43 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 18:06:43.0271 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[0E56D570:01C2212A]
Message-ID:  <F60Ok0gaPElyqTNJ5h100002280@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:06:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
>smart thinking!!! I'll go ya one better. My grandma used to butter her
>bread
>before spreading peanut butter on it. A double caloric whammy. I thought it
>was very odd.

My grandmother did as well. Presumably your grandmother was German?

Marie

_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:54:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06526
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:54:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E441EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:07:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12525756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:12:43 -0400
Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61IChd10496 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:12:43 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.1] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYL00KNC195KH@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 01 Jul 2002 11:12:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
References: <F60Ok0gaPElyqTNJ5h100002280@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <a04310106b9464c57ae13@[192.168.1.1]>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:14:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F60Ok0gaPElyqTNJ5h100002280@hotmail.com>

>>From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
>>smart thinking!!! I'll go ya one better. My grandma used to butter her
>>bread
>>before spreading peanut butter on it. A double caloric whammy. I thought it
>>was very odd.
>
>My grandmother did as well. Presumably your grandmother was German?

My mother, who came from a German family, used to do so when I was
little. If it was for a PB&J, she'd put the butter on the J side --
"to keep it from making the bread soggy." I can't remember when she
stopped, but it was probably a good decision.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:55:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06533
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:55:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4420D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:08:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12525850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:14:11 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g61IEAd10735 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:14:10
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g61IEAA337148 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          14:14:10 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEACFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:13:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F60Ok0gaPElyqTNJ5h100002280@hotmail.com>

Hmmmmm....she married a Hess (German name at least) and was a Dawson. And
she was thin, and a mean spirited catholic with heavy black shoes and rather
cold. Somewhere we have a reel to reel of her reading me and my brother The
Night Before Christmas. If I can get my dad to sort out the reels maybe I
can find a place who could put it on DVD. Seems like a long short. She was
germanic if not entirely german.

Sandra

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU]On Behalf Of Marie Ascher
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 11:07 AM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: What is everybody doing?
>
>
> >From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
> >smart thinking!!! I'll go ya one better. My grandma used to butter her
> >bread
> >before spreading peanut butter on it. A double caloric whammy. I
> thought it
> >was very odd.
>
> My grandmother did as well. Presumably your grandmother was German?
>
> Marie
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> http://www.hotmail.com
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:57:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06537
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:57:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000CA0D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:15:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12525898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:15:18 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g61IFId10888 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:15:18
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g61IFHA62492 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          14:15:17 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEADFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:14:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a04310106b9464c57ae13@[192.168.1.1]>

she must have had runnier peanut butter than we have. My peanut butter would
never make any bread soggy.

Sandra
>
> >>From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
> >>smart thinking!!! I'll go ya one better. My grandma used to butter her
> >>bread
> >>before spreading peanut butter on it. A double caloric whammy.
> I thought it
> >>was very odd.
> >
> >My grandmother did as well. Presumably your grandmother was German?
>
> My mother, who came from a German family, used to do so when I was
> little. If it was for a PB&J, she'd put the butter on the J side --
> "to keep it from making the bread soggy." I can't remember when she
> stopped, but it was probably a good decision.
>
> Janet
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:58:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06542
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:58:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4424F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:10:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12525944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:16:16 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61IGGd11005 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:16:16 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust89.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.91]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004926247@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:16:16 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEPPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D209C71.5CC0DCE7@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:16:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:
>
> smart thinking!!! I'll go ya one better. My grandma used to butter her bread
> before spreading peanut butter on it. A double caloric whammy. I thought it
> was very odd.
>
I never have thought of doing it any other way. And then I often add one
or more of the following: mayonnaise, bacon, sweet pickle relish.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:58:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06546
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:58:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000CA0F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:16:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12525963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:16:49 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f228.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.228]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61IGnd11092 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:16:49 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 11:16:43 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 18:16:43 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 18:16:43.0991 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[74656E70:01C2212B]
Message-ID:  <F228lqUAc4rl5S2hUzT000035a3@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:16:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
> > On the evening of the Fourth, me, *uc* and our KI pills are
> > going down to the river to watch the fireworks over Peekskill.
> >
>What are KI pills?

Potassium Iodide. We live within 10 miles of Indian Point nuclear power
plant. In defense against an attack, all Town residents have been issued a
single dose of KI, which protects against thyroid problems and cancers.

Marie

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:59:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06550
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 07:59:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4426B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:11:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12525977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:17:13 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61IHDd11194 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:17:13 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20419 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:17:01 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Jul 02
          14:17:02 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Jul 02 14:16:50 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <F101cvgvkSqNVAp0sX50000338b@hotmail.com>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D206449.21381.165AA34@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:16:42 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000201c22129$886b8a00$48305b80@EAGLE72>

> > On the evening of the Fourth, me, *uc* and our KI pills are
Potassium iodide ?  Worried about radiation Marie?

BrP

> > going down to the river to watch the fireworks over Peekskill.
> >
> > Marie
> >
> >
> What are KI pills?
>
> Alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 08:06:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06573
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 08:06:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000CA1A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:24:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12526303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:24:12 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g61IOBd12069 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:24:11
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g61IOBA170868 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          14:24:11 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEAEFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:23:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D209C71.5CC0DCE7@valstar.net>

keep it up and soon you'll be soliciting diet tips ;)

Sandra
>
> S Hess wrote:
> >
> > smart thinking!!! I'll go ya one better. My grandma used to
> butter her bread
> > before spreading peanut butter on it. A double caloric whammy.
> I thought it
> > was very odd.
> >
> I never have thought of doing it any other way. And then I often add one
> or more of the following: mayonnaise, bacon, sweet pickle relish.
>
> alyce
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 08:06:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06580
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 08:06:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E44307@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:19:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12526312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:24:39 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f301.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.176]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61IOdd12098 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:24:39 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 11:24:33 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 18:24:33 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 18:24:33.0999 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[8C8AF5F0:01C2212C]
Message-ID:  <F301RV5awS8jUtA4So3000031a6@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:24:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
> > > On the evening of the Fourth, me, *uc* and our KI pills are

>Potassium iodide ?  Worried about radiation Marie?

Not particularly. Just call us Homer and Marge.

It just seems prudent in light of the warnings re July 4th compounded by the
fact that the fireworks site is probably just a mile from the nearest
nuclear power plant to NYC. I'm not going to not go to the fireworks, but I
might as well bring along the little pill I've been handed.

Marie

_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 08:09:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06584
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 08:09:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000CA1E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:27:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12526402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:27:10 -0400
Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61IR9d12369 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:27:09 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.1] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYL00KYE1X8RY@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 01 Jul 2002 11:27:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEADFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Message-ID:  <a04310107b9464fda813e@[192.168.1.1]>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:28:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEADFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

>she must have had runnier peanut butter than we have. My peanut butter would
>never make any bread soggy.

No, she put the butter on the jelly side, under the jelly.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 08:14:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06591
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 08:14:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E443AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:27:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12526790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 14:32:58 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f201.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.201]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61IWvd13241 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:32:58 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 11:32:52 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 18:32:52 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 18:32:52.0385 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[B59AA110:01C2212D]
Message-ID:  <F201c5u3IFI5Eh0EVgh000034ef@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:32:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
>>she must have had runnier peanut butter than we have. My peanut butter
>>would
>>never make any bread soggy.
>
>No, she put the butter on the jelly side, under the jelly.

I don't remember exactly what my grandmother did, just that there was butter
included on my pb&j, and I didn't like it.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 08:44:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06633
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 08:44:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000CA4FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:02:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12528516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 15:02:12 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f132.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.132]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61J2Cd17618 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:02:12 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 12:02:06 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 19:02:06 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 19:02:06.0641 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[CB38DA10:01C22131]
Message-ID:  <F132SeOxV2RQHtQlGpf0000358d@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:02:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      help
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Can you see this image:  http://library.nymc.edu/images/linkou1.gif ?

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 08:45:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06645
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 08:45:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E44763@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:58:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12528633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 15:03:40 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f84.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.84]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61J3dd17889 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:03:39 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 12:03:34 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 01
          Jul 2002 19:03:34 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 19:03:34.0418 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[FF8A8F20:01C22131]
Message-ID:  <F84gX4VMWf7JS84PbED0000401d@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:03:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      food discovery
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

MMM MMM---chopped garlic fried in chicken fat tastes pretty good. Crunchy
and golden.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 08:46:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06649
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 08:46:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000CA540@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:04:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12528689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 15:04:56 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f152.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.152]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61J4ud18064 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:04:56 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 12:04:50 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 01
          Jul 2002 19:04:50 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 19:04:50.0980 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[2D2CFE40:01C22132]
Message-ID:  <F1521f0EXVTP4rAOXN300003f3d@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:04:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: help
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

No, dude.

-a


>From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: help
>Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:02:06 -0400
>
>Can you see this image:  http://library.nymc.edu/images/linkou1.gif

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 08:52:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06658
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 08:52:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E447BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:05:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12528864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 15:11:05 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f239.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.239]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61JB5d18742 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:11:05 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 12:11:00 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 19:10:59 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 19:11:00.0176 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[093BD500:01C22133]
Message-ID:  <F239TxGfNP1ocXZdtub00003595@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:10:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: help
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

How about now:  http://library.nymc.edu/linkout/linkou1.gif ?

Marie


>From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: help
>Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:04:50 -0500
>
>No, dude.
>
>-a
>
>
>>From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
>>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>Subject: help
>>Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:02:06 -0400
>>
>>Can you see this image:  http://library.nymc.edu/images/linkou1.gif
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
>http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx




Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:04:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06680
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 09:04:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E44891@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:17:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12529550 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 15:23:06 -0400
Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61JN6d20349 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:23:06 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.1] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYL00KQ24IHS4@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 01 Jul 2002 12:23:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
References: <F239TxGfNP1ocXZdtub00003595@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <a0431010cb9465cf99698@[192.168.1.1]>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:24:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: help
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F239TxGfNP1ocXZdtub00003595@hotmail.com>

>How about now:  http://library.nymc.edu/linkout/linkou1.gif ?

Nope, neither time.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:09:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06687
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 09:09:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E449A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:22:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12530528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 15:27:23 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f161.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.161]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61JRNd21716 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:27:23 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 12:27:18 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 19:27:17 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 19:27:18.0131 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[5023EC30:01C22135]
Message-ID:  <F161b6KZmcK8r6beUzm0000351a@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:27:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: help
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Okay, thanks Anne and Janet. I'll try to figure out what's going on.

Marie


>From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: help
>Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:24:53 -0700
>
>>How about now:  http://library.nymc.edu/linkout/linkou1.gif ?
>
>Nope, neither time.
>
>Janet




Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:15:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06702
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 09:15:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E44A23@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:28:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12530934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 15:33:24 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61JXNd22746 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:33:23 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYL4XV03.EH2 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:32:19 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020701095832.00a54320@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D20B035.765B096B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:40:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Fires
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> Now South Dakota is burning!  How is the smoke in your state this morning,
> John?

    Still pretty bad, but its out of state.  The prevailing westerlies are
sending it to Albuquerque

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:21:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06711
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 09:21:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E44AC6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:34:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12531354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 15:39:30 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61JdUd23544 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:39:30 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc55 ([204.127.198.44]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020701193924.UNYH15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:39:24 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc55; Mon, 01 Jul 2002 19:39:24 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020701193924.UNYH15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:39:24 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: help
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I get a "connection to server refused" message when I
click on the link.

lisa
> Can you see this image:  http://library.nymc.edu/images/linkou1.gif ?
>
> Marie
>    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:32:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06730
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 09:32:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E44BE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:45:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12532330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 15:50:35 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61JoZd25573 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:50:35 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust102.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.104]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003620739@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 15:50:35 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F132SeOxV2RQHtQlGpf0000358d@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D20B287.FEF97A70@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:50:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: help
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> Can you see this image:  http://library.nymc.edu/images/linkou1.gif ?
>
Nothing happens. Never connected.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:32:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06737
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 09:32:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000CAA07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:50:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12532351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 15:50:52 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61Jopd25615 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:50:51 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc57 ([204.127.198.46]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020701195046.UEVR9178.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:50:46 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc57; Mon, 01 Jul 2002 19:50:46 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020701195046.UEVR9178.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:50:46 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: food discovery
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Is garlic still good for you if it's been fried in
chicken fat?

lisa
I can dream can't I?
> MMM MMM---chopped garlic fried in chicken fat tastes pretty good. Crunchy
> and golden.
>
> -aht
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:36:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06771
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 09:36:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E44C6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:49:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12532751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 15:54:41 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61Jsfd26244 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:54:41 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust102.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.104]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003620815@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 15:54:14 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F239TxGfNP1ocXZdtub00003595@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D20B362.131AEB51@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:54:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: help
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> How about now:  http://library.nymc.edu/linkout/linkou1.gif ?

It is not connecting at all.

alyce

--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:38:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06788
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 09:38:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E44CB5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:51:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12532940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 15:56:56 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f72.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.72]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61Juud26570 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:56:56 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 12:56:50 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 19:56:48 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 19:56:50.0602 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[709D88A0:01C22139]
Message-ID:  <F720S23qfuTGC7E9Ezs000036e3@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:56:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Libraries
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
>I checked a couple into the Inn last week who introduced themselves as Dick
>and Jane and then expected me to laugh, which I did.  But it dawned on me
>that it would be only people over a certain age who would immediately
>understand the reference.

I wonder about that. They were definitely well and alive during my youth. In
any case, I don't know what that "certain age" would be but
definitely younger than me.
Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:46:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06808
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 09:46:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E44D95@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:59:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12533694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 16:04:30 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f290.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.165]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61K4Ud28322 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:04:30 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 13:04:24 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 20:04:24 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 20:04:24.0719 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[7F4A49F0:01C2213A]
Message-ID:  <F290LQoOuDdHd6z6BJ8000012d8@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:04:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: help
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Oh, that's interesting, maybe it's our whole server. How about this? Can you
see this: http://library.nymc.edu/images/banner1.jpg ?

Same error message?

I'm sorry everyone, but this is very confusing to me.

Marie

>From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: help
>Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:39:24 +0000
>
>I get a "connection to server refused" message when I
>click on the link.
>
>lisa
> > Can you see this image:  http://library.nymc.edu/images/linkou1.gif ?
> >
> > Marie
> >    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx




Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:51:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06817
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 09:51:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E44E1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:04:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12534155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 16:09:22 -0400
Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61K9Md29270 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:09:22 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.1] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYL00KT66NLRR@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 01 Jul 2002 13:09:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
References: <F290LQoOuDdHd6z6BJ8000012d8@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <a0431010fb94667ce21ef@[192.168.1.1]>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:11:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: help
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F290LQoOuDdHd6z6BJ8000012d8@hotmail.com>

>Oh, that's interesting, maybe it's our whole server. How about this? Can you
>see this: http://library.nymc.edu/images/banner1.jpg ?
>
>Same error message?

Yup. I'm guessing it *is* your server.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:52:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06824
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 09:52:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E44E42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:05:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12534265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 16:10:24 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61KAOd29504 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:10:24 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust102.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.104]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003621201@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 16:10:21 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F290LQoOuDdHd6z6BJ8000012d8@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D20B729.4B96FACE@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:10:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: help
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> Oh, that's interesting, maybe it's our whole server. How about this? Can you
> see this: http://library.nymc.edu/images/banner1.jpg ?
>
> Same error message?
>
> I'm sorry everyone, but this is very confusing to me.

I don't even get an error message. It just spins.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:52:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06828
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 09:52:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E44E43@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:05:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12534269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 16:10:30 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f68.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.68]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61KATd29510 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:10:29 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          1 Jul 2002 13:10:24 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 20:10:24 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2002 20:10:24.0469 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[55B7C850:01C2213B]
Message-ID:  <F68eACbzCWfbB1kOXXG000036f6@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:10:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: help
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
>>Oh, that's interesting, maybe it's our whole server. How about this? Can
>>you
>>see this: http://library.nymc.edu/images/banner1.jpg ?
>>
>>Same error message?
>
>Yup. I'm guessing it *is* your server.

Can you get to the homepage at all: http://library.nymc.edu ?

(sorry)

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 10:45:57 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06917
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 10:45:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000CB4E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:04:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12538653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 17:04:04 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61L44906761 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:04:04 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust57.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.59]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004930115@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 17:04:03 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F68eACbzCWfbB1kOXXG000036f6@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D20C3BE.EBAA6B01@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:03:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: help
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:
> Can you get to the homepage at all: http://library.nymc.edu ?
>
Nope
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 10:50:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06926
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 10:50:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000CB6C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:08:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12538911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 17:08:53 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61L8q907379 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:08:53 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust57.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.59]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004930234@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 17:08:52 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D20C4DC.2A06E7AD@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:08:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Fwd: Texas Textbook Flap
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

No, not the book from yesterday. This is new and now.
-------------------
Textbook Publishers Learn to Avoid Messing With Texas

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/29/arts/29TEXT.html

By ALEXANDER STILLE
06/29/02

"Out of Many," the work of four respected historians, is one of the
biggest
sellers among American history college textbooks in the United States,
but
it is not likely to be available to Texas high school students taking
advanced placement history. Conservative groups in Texas objected to two
paragraphs in the nearly 1,000-page text that explained that
prostitution
was rampant in cattle towns during the late 19th century, before the
West
was fully settled.

"It makes it sound that every woman west of the Mississippi was a
prostitute," said Grace Shore, the Republican chairwoman of the Texas
State
Board of Education. "The book says that there were 50,000 prostitutes
west
of the Mississippi. I doubt it, but even if there were, is that
something
that should be emphasized? Is that an important historical fact?"
The publisher, Pearson Prentice Hall, has quietly withdrawn the book
from
consideration by the board. Wendy Spiegel, a vice president for
communications at the company, said it had another textbook that better
fit
the state's curriculum.
Textbook battles are legendary in Texas, where conservative critics
frequently complain of liberal bias, and liberals counter with charges
of
censorship. The latest round, on July 17, when the board begins public
hearings on which history and social studies books to adopt, promises to
be
particularly fierce. Nine conservative organizations have formed a
coalition, recruiting 250 volunteers to vet more than 150 books.
The outcome has far more than regional interest. After California, Texas
is
the biggest buyer of textbooks in the United States, accounting for
nearly
10 percent of the national market. In fact, conservative activists in
Texas
say they have already received calls from leading publishers anxious to
discuss the forthcoming history and social studies adoptions. Many
publishers write their books with the Texas and California markets in
mind,
but complain of political pressure.
"The bottom line is that Texas and California are the biggest buyers of
textbooks in the country, and what we adopt in Texas is what the rest of
the country gets," said Carol Jones, the field director of the Texas
chapter of Citizens for a Sound Economy, part of the coalition
monitoring
books for errors, examples of political bias, omissions or information
that
it deems offensive and that it says gives the texts a liberal slant.
Peggy Venable, director of the Texas chapter, said executives at Pearson
Prentice Hall withdrew "Out of Many," because they "wisely didn't want
to
jeopardize their larger sales in the state by having that book as its
poster child."
This year, Pearson Prentice Hall is offering 27 other books for adoption
in
Texas, ranging from texts for first grade social studies to ones for
Advanced Placement world history. The potential prize is great: Texas
has
allocated $700 million over the next two years for textbooks and related
materials in history and social studies  a sizable chunk of the nation's
$4.5 billion textbook market.
Most states, including New York, choose textbooks on a school-by-school
or
district-by-district basis, but Texas and California buy them through a
formal statewide process. The Texas board votes in November, giving the
state's schools lists of approved textbooks to choose from.
In 1995, the Texas legislature sought to eliminate politically charged
conflicts by passing a law that limited the grounds for a book's
rejection
to physical defects or "factual inaccuracy." In recent years, though,
conservative groups have become adept at blocking books by arguing that
political bias and the omission of certain facts constitute "factual
inaccuracy." Moreover, the provision in the Texas Education Code that
textbooks should promote democracy, patriotism and the free-enterprise
system has been used to attack certain books.
Thus the Texas case raises a series of new questions about how to write
history. What constitutes an "error" in a history or science textbook?
What
facts are central and which can be omitted? Should history books
inculcate
patriotism and appreciation of free enterprise? And most significantly,
who
should decide those questions?
The conservative groups are feeling confident after last year's adoption
process for environmental science texts, in which they succeeded in
persuading the Board of Education to reject two texts.
Among other things, those books were criticized as "anti-technology,"
"anti-Christian" and "anti-American," and for saying there was
scientific
consensus that global warming was changing the earth's climate.
An environmental science book that ultimately won approval, "Global
Science:
Energy, Resources, Environment" published by Kendall/Hunt, was partly
financed by the Mineral Information Institute, a consortium of mining
companies. Duggan Flanakin, who wrote influential reports on the
textbooks
for the Texas Public Policy Foundation, a conservative organization,
used
to work for the United States Bureau of Mines. And Ms. Shore, the Board
of
Education chairwoman, is a co-owner of TEC Well Service Inc., a
Longview,
Tex., company that repairs and deepens oil wells as well as produces gas
and oil.
"The oil and gas industry should be consulted," she told The Austin
American-Statesman, a daily newspaper, at the time of last year's board
vote.  "We always get a raw deal."
One Dallas publisher, J. M. LeBel Enterprises, after having Jane L.
Person's "Environmental Science: How the World Works and Your Place in
It"
rejected on Nov. 8, spent most of the next night working with state
education officials to incorporate a series of changes in this high
school
textbook suggested by one of the foundation's critiques. These changes
resulted in the book's approval.
Ms. Venable and other conservative critics insist that they do not want
to
edit or rewrite textbooks, only to assure that they are stripped of
ideology and offer a straightforward, objective statement of facts.
But Reni LeBel, the publishing company's president, deplored the
process,
even though he maintained that he did not alter the book's fundamental
content. "It was a book burning," he said. "It was 100 percent
political."
At the suggestion of the foundation, the LeBel company rewrote the
sentence
"Destruction of the tropical rain forest could affect weather over the
entire planet" so that it now reads, "Tropical rain forest ecosystems
impact weather over the entire planet." It also added these sentences:
"In
the past, the earth has been much warmer than it is now, and fossils of
sea
creatures show us that the sea level was much higher than it is today.
So
does it really matter if the world gets warmer?"

The foundation also succeeded in having this sentence deleted: "Most
experts on global warming feel that immediate action should be taken to
curb global warming."
"We are now telling them what to write and what not to write," Mary
Helen
Berlanga, a Democratic member of the Board of Education, said of
authors.  (The board has 10 Republicans and 5 Democrats.)
But others say this is simply democracy at work. "We citizens are truly
the
clients," Ms. Venable said. "It is our children's education and future
at
stake, and our tax dollars are paying for the books. If people in Texas
are
more conservative than people in Massachusetts or New York, so be it."
Singled out for particular censure at last year's hearings and
ultimately
rejected by the Board of Education was "Environmental Science: Creating
a
Sustainable Future," by Daniel D. Chiras, published by Jones & Bartlett,
a
small company in Sudbury, Mass. The book is in its sixth edition and has
been used widely in colleges for the past 20 years.
Professor Chiras, who teaches at the University of Denver and the
University of Colorado, does not disguise his environmental activism.
"Things can't go on as they have been," he writes in the opening
chapter.
"We must change our ways." He criticizes the "throwaway mentality" and
"obsession with growth" in American life, disapproves of the
environmental
policies of Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr. and praises
those
of Bill Clinton.
The day before the Board of Education voted, the Texas Public Policy
Foundation distributed a 24-page critique that listed all of what it
called
the Chiras book's errors. At one point, for example, the critique
attacks
Professor Chiras for repeating the "oft-used falsehood that over 100
million Americans are breathing unhealthy air." It points out that since
pollution levels in most American cities exceed allowable standards only
on
certain days of the year, "on most days, the air in every city in the
U.S.
is healthy." But is this inaccuracy or two different ways of
interpreting
the same facts?
"I think it's really dangerous that the Texas Public Policy Foundation
has
so much influence that you have publishers writing to please the
conservative right at the risk of suppressing alternative views and
critically examining the issues," said Dean DeChambeau, director of
development for Jones & Bartlett. "We lost a quarter of a million
dollars'
worth of business. Other publishers, who would lose millions of dollars
of
business if they lost an adoption, are more likely to be influenced by
the
groups."
After the battle over environmental science, Ms. Venable and other
activists on the textbook front were contacted by a number of
publishers.
Their hope was that by consulting critics in advance, they might avoid a
battle at the hearings that could lead to their books' rejection.
"I think there is a very great danger of self-censorship," said Byron
Hollinshead, the president of American Historical Publications, the New
York company that produced "The History of US," a middle school textbook
distributed by Oxford University Press. "If a big publisher produces an
edition specifically for Texas and then hears from these groups that
they
want a series of changes, they are going to make them."
Texas holds adoptions for different academic subjects each year; it
generally replaces textbooks in a given subject every six years, so that
books approved this time would be in circulation until 2009.
When Pearson Prentice Hall decided to submit "Out of Many: A History of
the
American People," the company hired a high school teacher to alert it to
potential problems. "They were mostly questions involving sexuality,
homosexuality, AIDS, prostitution, things like that," said Mari Jo
Buhle, a
professor of history at Brown University and one of the book's
co-authors.
The teacher suggested, for example, taking out the paragraphs that dealt
with the gay rights movement in the 1970's and the development of birth
control. The authors agreed to make some concessions by removing
profanity
in historical quotations.
But they refused to change anything of substance, like the subsection on
gay rights, the mention of Margaret Sanger and the development of
contraception and the "Cowgirls and Prostitutes" section. The passages
on
prostitution tell about the economic forces that pushed women into
prostitution and the health hazards they were exposed to. The book's
critics felt it had no place in American history.
"I don't mean that we should sweep things under the rug," Ms. Venable
said.
"But the children should see the hope and the good things about
America."
But it is inevitably tricky to reconcile Texas's requirement that
textbooks
promote democracy, patriotism and free enterprise with the historian's
supposedly disinterested pursuit of truth. The politics of the day are
always going to influence the presentation of history, said John Mack
Faragher, a history professor at Yale University and the lead author of
"Out of Many."
"There was no women's history until there was a women's movement, there
was
no African-American history before there was a civil rights movement,"
he
said. "Historical practice is very much determined by the things that
people are concerned about."
"History is ultimately a moral art, and it is about values," he
continued.
"It is not merely about the collection of facts. It is about the way we
put
those facts together and the meaning we give them. Arguments about facts
are arguments about meaning."
______________________________________

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:14:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06983
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 11:14:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E458EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:27:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12542432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 17:32:40 -0400
Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61LWe912496 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:32:40 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.1] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYL00623AIF3M@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 01 Jul 2002 14:32:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
References: <F68eACbzCWfbB1kOXXG000036f6@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <a04310110b9467b5bb9df@[192.168.1.1]>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:34:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: help
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F68eACbzCWfbB1kOXXG000036f6@hotmail.com>

>>From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
>>>Oh, that's interesting, maybe it's our whole server. How about this? Can
>>>you
>>>see this: http://library.nymc.edu/images/banner1.jpg ?
>>>
>>>Same error message?
>>
>>Yup. I'm guessing it *is* your server.
>
>Can you get to the homepage at all: http://library.nymc.edu ?

Yes.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 12:13:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07097
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 12:13:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E46039@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:26:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12546729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 18:31:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61MVr920375 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:31:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0F8C985E1; Mon,  1
          Jul 2002 15:31:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020701223149.0F8C985E1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:31:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Is this for real?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F270tBYwbZdtHDFPMnl000030a0@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 1, 2002 11:23:24 am"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
> >Me too, actually -- but I don't delude myself that it's a
> >particularly flattering look. Sandra and I are both well-padded
> >women, which gives that oh-so-attractive bulgy look to the backs of
> >the knees, and we both live in sunless San Francisco, which further
> >ensures that the aforementioned bulges are the approximate hue of
> >unbaked bread dough. Natalie would not approve.
>
> Get thee to the Lancome counter!

For why?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 12:23:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07114
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 12:23:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E460DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:36:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12546878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 18:41:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61MfT920908 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:41:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws78-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.78]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61MfPQ10040
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:41:26 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F105JWEsBk31TZ14eBa00003316@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D20DA92.8A66AC3E@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:41:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

> Bread and pasta, Alyce.  You could even keep bread right there with you at
> the computer.

Are bread and pasta all that caloric?  I've never been a real student of
these matters, but I've always thought that they were not especially
fattening.  (Obviously I'm not talking about what some people put on top
of bread and pasta.  I'm talking just about bread and pasta.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 12:24:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07121
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 12:24:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000CDA85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:42:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12546914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 18:42:59 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61Mgx921018 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:42:59 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws78-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.78]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61MguQ10506
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:42:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEPPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D20DAED.1F40B717@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:42:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:
>
> smart thinking!!! I'll go ya one better. My grandma used to butter her bread
> before spreading peanut butter on it. A double caloric whammy. I thought it
> was very odd.

Here's a real mind-boggler:  I once saw somebody rub butter over a
steak.  (And yes, he was fat.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 12:27:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07125
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 12:27:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E46124@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:40:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12546955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 18:45:47 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61Mjk921196 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:45:46 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws78-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.78]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61MjiQ11140
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:45:44 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F60Ok0gaPElyqTNJ5h100002280@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D20DB94.759E1D60@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:45:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

> My grandmother did as well. Presumably your grandmother was German?

What's the name of that German side-dish that is just a pile of fat?  I
once ordered it by accident in Hamburg.  I thought it might be some kind
of potatoes, but I took one bite and almost barfed.  Later I described
the experience to somebody who told me the name of what I had ordered
and told me that indeed it was a pile of cooked fat.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 12:30:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07181
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 12:30:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000CDC41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:48:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12547168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 18:48:19 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61MmI921378 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:48:19 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E1BDC85F8; Mon,  1
          Jul 2002 15:48:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020701224817.E1BDC85F8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:48:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEPPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 1, 2002 11: 3:42 am"

S Hess said:
> smart thinking!!! I'll go ya one better. My grandma used to butter her bread
> before spreading peanut butter on it. A double caloric whammy. I thought it
> was very odd.

I like the way this tastes.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 12:31:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07194
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 12:31:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E461C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:44:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12547208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 18:49:53 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61Mnr921468 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:49:53 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws78-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.78]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61MnpQ11827
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:49:51 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEADFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D20DC8B.8099E184@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:49:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:
>
> she must have had runnier peanut butter than we have. My peanut butter would
> never make any bread soggy.

I bet you eat hydrogenated pnut butter.  Unhydrogenated is much runnier.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 12:33:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07201
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 12:33:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000CDD15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:51:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12547249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 18:51:34 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61MpY921580 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:51:34 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws78-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.78]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61MpWQ12143
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:51:32 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F720S23qfuTGC7E9Ezs000036e3@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D20DCF0.15690CB6@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:51:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Libraries
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

> >I checked a couple into the Inn last week who introduced themselves as Dick
> >and Jane and then expected me to laugh, which I did.  But it dawned on me
> >that it would be only people over a certain age who would immediately
> >understand the reference.
>
> I wonder about that. They were definitely well and alive during my youth. In
> any case, I don't know what that "certain age" would be but
> definitely younger than me.

I would think that most people even now would have heard of Dick and
Jane.  But younger people would almost certainly not know all the
references -- Spot, Puff, Baby Sally, the grandparents' farm, etc.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 12:39:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07205
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 12:39:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E46257@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:52:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12547463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 18:57:17 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g61MvH922153 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:57:17 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws78-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.78]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g61MvFQ13457
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:57:15 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F301RV5awS8jUtA4So3000031a6@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D20DE47.8AA9741@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:57:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

> It just seems prudent in light of the warnings re July 4th compounded by the

Do y'all find these 4th of July warnings kind of odd -- as in they're
being talked about as if they're based on surprise info or something?  I
mean haven't we all realized for a good while now that July 4 is a
no-brainer as a target date for people who hate the US?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 13:52:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07274
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 13:52:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000CF763@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:10:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12549964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 20:10:14 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g620AE927705 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:10:14 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020702001008.EXJL29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 00:10:08 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEKJFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:12:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Saturday
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F285ZssJbBVVI6x9isZ000033ad@hotmail.com>

> >From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
> >Plus, the pie in the outhouse is on Sunday mornings.
>
> FTR, Bruce and I ate blueberry pie for breakfast on Sunday.
>
> Not in the outhouse, though.
>
> Marie
>    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com

That must've been quite a helping of DEAD BIRD you had with the pie, too. :D

Are you going to FRFF, Marie?

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 14:01:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07290
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 14:01:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4694D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:14:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12550235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 20:19:30 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g620JU928372 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:19:30 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020702001925.VHVY903.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 00:19:25 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGEEKKFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:21:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Libraries
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D20DCF0.15690CB6@maynor.net>

> I would think that most people even now would have heard of Dick and
> Jane.  But younger people would almost certainly not know all the
> references -- Spot, Puff, Baby Sally, the grandparents' farm, etc.

I sure don't. Spot, maybe. None of the others.

Dick and Jane were the kids in the primers, weren't they? I vaguely remember
those from kindergarten.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 14:09:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07342
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 14:09:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E469F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:22:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12550431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 20:27:43 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g620Rh928965 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:27:43 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g620RfK26754 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:27:41 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207011926350.26697-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:27:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D20DAED.1F40B717@maynor.net>

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Here's a real mind-boggler:  I once saw somebody rub butter over a
> steak.  (And yes, he was fat.)

BEARNAISE SAUCE

"A Bearnaise sauce is simply an egg yolk, a shallot, a little tarragon
vinegar, and butter, but it takes years of practice for the result to be
perfect."

Fernand Point (1897-1955) 'Ma gastronomie'

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 14:17:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07356
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 14:17:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E46A74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:30:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12550614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 20:35:26 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g620ZQ929596 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:35:26 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g620SQb15361 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:28:26 -0400
Received: from TWILD ([131.128.2.36]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with
          ESMTP id g620XQk20506 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          20:33:26 -0400
X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.0 (Win32)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Message-ID:  <3353680810.1025555897@TWILD>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:38:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Terry Wild <twild@URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F60Ok0gaPElyqTNJ5h100002280@hotmail.com>

My grandmother spreads butter on her bread before making any sandwich.
She's French Canadian.

Terry

>> From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
 My grandma used to butter her bread
>> before spreading peanut butter on it. A double caloric whammy. I thought
>> it was very odd.
>
> My grandmother did as well. Presumably your grandmother was German?
>
> Marie

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 14:23:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07368
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 14:23:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E46AEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:35:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12550523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 20:41:10 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g620V9929326 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:31:09 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g620V9OI013562 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:31:09 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207012026560.3598-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:31:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      gratitude
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I am awash in gratitude - (1) to the fisherfolk who caught the chub
salmon that Kroger's is making available to me this week (I eat a steak as
I browse here), (2) to Donna from Grainger Co., who provided the tomatoes
that I used to make the marinara sauce that I am having on the pasta,
(3) to the person who invented automobile A/C, (4) to the various
repairpeople who finally figured out and repaired all the problem areas
so that I once again have A/C in my minivan - there were several problems
- I asked for help and got it!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 14:51:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07408
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 14:51:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E46D07@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:03:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12551653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 21:09:06 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g62196932225 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:09:06
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g62195A69626 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          21:09:05 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEANFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:08:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D20DA92.8A66AC3E@maynor.net>

> Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> > Bread and pasta, Alyce.  You could even keep bread right there
> with you at
> > the computer.
>
> Are bread and pasta all that caloric?  I've never been a real student of
> these matters, but I've always thought that they were not especially
> fattening.  (Obviously I'm not talking about what some people put on top
> of bread and pasta.  I'm talking just about bread and pasta.)
>
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)


I can't say they're super high caloric unless smothered in various forms of
grease. I think there is something to the concept of food combining. I've
lost 87 lbs rather easily mostly having dropped bread, rice & pasta from my
normal diet. Of course, I've knocked off on the sweets and I walk regularly
but I'd rather drop bread, rice & pasta than have one of those gastric
bypass operations not to mention saving $20k on the operation. Right now, if
I wanted to gain weight, I'd start making sandwiches.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 14:51:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07415
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 14:51:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E46D19@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:04:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12551669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 21:09:46 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6219k932249 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:09:46
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g6219jA202752 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          21:09:45 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEANFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:08:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D20DC8B.8099E184@maynor.net>

I eat the Trader Joe's brad. I think it's natural.

Sandra

> S Hess wrote:
> >
> > she must have had runnier peanut butter than we have. My peanut
> butter would
> > never make any bread soggy.
>
> I bet you eat hydrogenated pnut butter.  Unhydrogenated is much runnier.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:02:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07432
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:02:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E46E1B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:15:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12552261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 21:20:46 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g621Kk901349 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:20:46 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws111-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.111]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g621KiQ18173
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:20:44 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGEEKKFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D20FFEA.A29F776D@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:20:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Libraries
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:

> Dick and Jane were the kids in the primers, weren't they? I vaguely remember
> those from kindergarten.

I'm surprised that they were still around in your lifetime.  But yes,
they were in the primers in the late '40s.  I don't really know how long
they stayed around.  Most people of my generation in the US learned to
read on Dick and Jane.  Canada also, I think.  I will forever be
grateful to Don Borody for sending me a D&J book several years ago.  It
sits on display between Toni and Raggedy Ann.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:04:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07439
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:04:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E46E36@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:17:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12552295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 21:22:30 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g621MT901517 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:22:30 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws111-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.111]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g621MRQ18591
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:22:28 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207011926350.26697-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D210052.AC1747AF@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:22:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> > Here's a real mind-boggler:  I once saw somebody rub butter over a
> > steak.  (And yes, he was fat.)
>
> BEARNAISE SAUCE
>
> "A Bearnaise sauce is simply an egg yolk, a shallot, a little tarragon
> vinegar, and butter, but it takes years of practice for the result to be
> perfect."
>
> Fernand Point (1897-1955) 'Ma gastronomie'

What I was talking about was somebody who smeared pure-d butter right on
top of his just-off-the-grill steak.  That was about thirty years ago,
but I've never forgotten witnessing it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:06:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07443
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:06:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E46E78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:19:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12552409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 21:24:59 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g621Ox901748 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:24:59 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws111-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.111]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g621OuQ19459
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:24:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEANFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2100E7.AB598279@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:24:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:

> but I'd rather drop bread, rice & pasta than have one of those gastric
> bypass operations not to mention saving $20k on the operation. Right now, if
> I wanted to gain weight, I'd start making sandwiches.

As I said earlier, I'm certainly not an authority on this subject, but I
feel pretty confident that bread, rice, and pasta are far less caloric
than things like meat, butter, etc.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:07:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07450
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:07:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E46E7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:19:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12552427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 21:25:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g621PD901809 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:25:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 26F2C85ED; Mon,  1
          Jul 2002 18:25:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702012513.26F2C85ED@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:25:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D210052.AC1747AF@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 1,
              2002  8:22:26 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> What I was talking about was somebody who smeared pure-d butter right on
> top of his just-off-the-grill steak.  That was about thirty years ago,
> but I've never forgotten witnessing it.

I've been told that some steak houses cook their steaks in
butter--like Ruth's Chris.

Karen
who saw a pretty Prius today

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:08:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07454
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:08:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E46E92@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:21:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12552455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 21:26:24 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g621QN901901 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:26:23 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws111-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.111]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g621QLQ20669
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:26:21 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEANFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D21013B.4C75E876@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:26:19 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:
>
> I eat the Trader Joe's brad. I think it's natural.

I don't know what Trader Joe's is or exactly what "natural" means.  I do
know from a good bit of experience that hydrogenated peanut butter is
much more solid than unhydrogenated.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:09:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07458
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:09:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E46EA8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:21:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12552486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 21:27:11 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g621RB901991 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:27:11 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4F30885A0; Mon,  1
          Jul 2002 18:27:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702012710.4F30885A0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:27:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2100E7.AB598279@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 1,
              2002  8:24:55 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> As I said earlier, I'm certainly not an authority on this subject, but I
> feel pretty confident that bread, rice, and pasta are far less caloric
> than things like meat, butter, etc.

Carbs make a lot of people (including me) bloat, so they 'gain
weight'. (Though I'm sure this isn't how Sandra's lost a kazillion
pounds.) There's something about binding with water molecules that I
don't fully remember.

Karen
who ate Orbs of Health Pancakes for dinner

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:13:12 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07462
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:13:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000D1032@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:31:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12552583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 21:30:42 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g621Ug902278 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:30:42 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws111-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.111]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g621UdQ24328
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:30:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEANFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <3D21013B.4C75E876@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D21023E.86DA7D5B@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:30:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

A quick googling on pasta produced this:

|A 1/2 cup serving of cooked pasta (spaghetti) contains a mere 99
calories, |less than half a gram of fat, and less than
|5 milligrams of sodium.
from: http://www.cafecreosote.com/Reference/PastaPage.php3

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:13:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07469
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:13:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E46EFC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:26:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12552608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 21:31:23 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g621VN902334 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:31:23 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust111.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.113]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003627808@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 21:30:57 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207011926350.26697-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <3D210052.AC1747AF@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D210243.195C497F@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:30:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
> What I was talking about was somebody who smeared pure-d butter right on
> top of his just-off-the-grill steak.  That was about thirty years ago,
> but I've never forgotten witnessing it.

I've done it in the sancity of my home. Good.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:29:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07483
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:29:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4704C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:42:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12553113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 21:47:19 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g621lJ903575 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:47:19 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws18-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.18]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g621lGQ28694
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:47:16 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207011926350.26697-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <3D210052.AC1747AF@maynor.net> <3D210243.195C497F@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D210622.6BB975DB@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:47:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> I've done it in the sancity of my home. Good.

Interesting.  I wouldn't have guessed you as one who would like eating
fat on fat.  Steaks by themselves strike me as repulsively <heavy>.  The
idea of rubbing more fat onto their natural fatiness strikes me as way
weird.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:35:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07503
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:35:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E470CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:48:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12553265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 21:53:29 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g621rS904055 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:53:29 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust111.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.113]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004936236@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 21:53:28 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207011926350.26697-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <3D210052.AC1747AF@maynor.net> <3D210243.195C497F@valstar.net>
            <3D210622.6BB975DB@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D210786.C14A0937@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:53:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Interesting.  I wouldn't have guessed you as one who would like eating
> fat on fat.  Steaks by themselves strike me as repulsively <heavy>.  The
> idea of rubbing more fat onto their natural fatiness strikes me as way
> weird.

Weird it may be. But tasty. I don't like eating the fat on steaks. The
meat itself is not fatty. Here is a tit for tat: I think it is way weird
that you don't like butter at all. I also eat that in chunks by itself
sometimes. I don't mean that I go especially to the refrigerator to get
it, but if it is out for cooking, I often cut off an inch or so and let
it melt in my mouth.

alyce



--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:37:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07514
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:37:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E470F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:50:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12553325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 21:55:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g621te904225 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:55:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 120CE8642; Mon,  1
          Jul 2002 18:55:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702015540.120CE8642@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:55:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D210786.C14A0937@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 1,
              2002  9:53:10 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> it, but if it is out for cooking, I often cut off an inch or so and let
> it melt in my mouth.

I knew there was a reason I liked you.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:40:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07521
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:40:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E47140@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:53:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12553146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 21:58:47 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g621mk903650 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:48:46 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g621mkOI032013 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:48:46 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207012148280.4091-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:48:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020702012513.26F2C85ED@yellow.rahul.net>

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>I've been told that some steak houses cook their steaks in
>butter--like Ruth's Chris.

What else would you use to cook it?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:42:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07528
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:42:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E47182@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:55:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12553582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:00:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6220b904749 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:00:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0F2D3864A; Mon,  1
          Jul 2002 19:00:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702020037.0F2D3864A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:00:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207012148280.4091-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 1, 2002  9:48:46 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >I've been told that some steak houses cook their steaks in
> >butter--like Ruth's Chris.
>
> What else would you use to cook it?

Its own fat. Olive oil. Walnut oil. Sesame oil.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:43:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07532
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:42:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4718A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:55:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12553586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:01:00 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62210904755 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:01:00 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust111.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.113]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003628435@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:00:52 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207012148280.4091-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D210941.D8F8BE1A@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:00:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
> What else would you use to cook it?

I broil steaks, never fry them.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:44:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07536
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:44:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E471B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:57:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12553670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:02:27 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6222R904944 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:02:27 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust111.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.113]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004936421@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:02:26 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702015540.120CE8642@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D21099F.BEF5EE41@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:02:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> I knew there was a reason I liked you.:)

"Butter wouldn't melt in her mouth" --what exactly does it mean?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:46:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07549
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:46:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E471D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:59:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12553733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:04:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6224f905097 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:04:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 12A76864A; Mon,  1
          Jul 2002 19:04:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702020441.12A76864A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:04:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21099F.BEF5EE41@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 1,
              2002 10: 2: 7 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I knew there was a reason I liked you.:)
>
> "Butter wouldn't melt in her mouth" --what exactly does it mean?

We've done this before, many years ago.

http://www.xrefer.com/entry/629959 says "Be overly coy or demure; be
insincere. For example, She looked quite innocent, as though butter
wouldn't melt in her mouth, but we knew better. Already a proverb in
John Heywood's collection of 1546, this metaphoric expression alleges
that one is literally so cool that butter inside the mouth would not
melt."

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:50:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07553
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:50:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E47234@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:03:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12553423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:08:30 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g621wU904517 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:58:30 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g621wTOI002093 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:58:29 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207012152370.4167-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:58:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      when, Natalie?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

What day are you officially retired, Natalie? July 31? Will you cry or
celebrate? Or fly to Finland?

I do not yet know whether I can go to Finland. We have an "essential
services only" stalemate good through Friday. If something is not resolved
in Nashville within the next day or two, the 2nd summer session will be
cancelled (it has already been postponed from Fri to Mon). All official
travel may also be cancelled - that would be crazy, but it would also
save a little bit of money. If it is, then I will have to find out whether
I can use my Finland ticket without having to reimburse the univ. for
it. It was quite expensive, so that will matter. THEN I will have to study
my budget and decide whether I can afford to pay the trip expenses.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:57:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07560
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 15:57:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E472D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:10:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12554105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:15:47 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g622Fl906006 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:15:47 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust111.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.113]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004936710@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:15:43 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702020441.12A76864A@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D210CBA.21C091AE@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:15:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > "Butter wouldn't melt in her mouth" --what exactly does it mean?
>
> We've done this before, many years ago.

Yes, I guess we did, but I forgot. Thanks for the reminder, she said
coyly.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:03:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07576
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 16:03:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4734E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:16:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12554260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:21:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g622Lj906421 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:21:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4D7E6865B; Mon,  1
          Jul 2002 19:21:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702022144.4D7E6865B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:21:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D210CBA.21C091AE@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 1,
              2002 10:15:22 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > > "Butter wouldn't melt in her mouth" --what exactly does it mean?
> >
> > We've done this before, many years ago.
>
> Yes, I guess we did, but I forgot. Thanks for the reminder, she said
> coyly.

I'm not sure you were here when we did it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:05:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07583
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 16:05:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000D1F36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:23:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12554287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:23:13 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g622ND906517 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:23:13 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYL00BJGNYN4P@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 01 Jul 2002 21:23:13 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D20C4DC.2A06E7AD@valstar.net>
Message-ID:  <3D210E3A.9080005@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:21:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Fwd: Texas Textbook Flap
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

This is old news for education circles.  This has been the
case for years and years and years.  Texas and California
kinda balance each other out a little as far as bias goes.

I don't know how many teachers rely solely on a textbook
without supplementing with other texts, but I suspect it's a
small percentage.  My impression from being in a class with
a bunch of history/social studies majors is they're all
unhappy with all the textbooks for some reason -- textbooks
by definition only comprise the outline of what is to be
learned and the job of the teacher is to fill it all in for
the students.  For example, a text might devote three
paragraphs to the holocaust in a 50-page chapter on WWII,
and the teacher's job would be then to elaborate.

Of course, how one elaborates is determined to some degree
by your community.  In theory I have the freedom to bring a
lot of outside texts into the classroom, but in actuality if
I decided to teach something offensive to local
uber-Christian sensibilities, I'd be run out on a rail.

alyce cresap wrote:

> No, not the book from yesterday. This is new and now.
> -------------------
> Textbook Publishers Learn to Avoid Messing With Texas
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/29/arts/29TEXT.html
>
> By ALEXANDER STILLE
> 06/29/02
>
> "Out of Many," the work of four respected historians, is one of the
> biggest
> sellers among American history college textbooks in the United States,
> but
> it is not likely to be available to Texas high school students taking
> advanced placement history. Conservative groups in Texas objected to two
> paragraphs in the nearly 1,000-page text that explained that
> prostitution
> was rampant in cattle towns during the late 19th century, before the
> West
> was fully settled.
>
> "It makes it sound that every woman west of the Mississippi was a
> prostitute," said Grace Shore, the Republican chairwoman of the Texas
> State
> Board of Education. "The book says that there were 50,000 prostitutes
> west
> of the Mississippi. I doubt it, but even if there were, is that
> something
> that should be emphasized? Is that an important historical fact?"
> The publisher, Pearson Prentice Hall, has quietly withdrawn the book
> from
> consideration by the board. Wendy Spiegel, a vice president for
> communications at the company, said it had another textbook that better
> fit
> the state's curriculum.
> Textbook battles are legendary in Texas, where conservative critics
> frequently complain of liberal bias, and liberals counter with charges
> of
> censorship. The latest round, on July 17, when the board begins public
> hearings on which history and social studies books to adopt, promises to
> be
> particularly fierce. Nine conservative organizations have formed a
> coalition, recruiting 250 volunteers to vet more than 150 books.
> The outcome has far more than regional interest. After California, Texas
> is
> the biggest buyer of textbooks in the United States, accounting for
> nearly
> 10 percent of the national market. In fact, conservative activists in
> Texas
> say they have already received calls from leading publishers anxious to
> discuss the forthcoming history and social studies adoptions. Many
> publishers write their books with the Texas and California markets in
> mind,
> but complain of political pressure.
> "The bottom line is that Texas and California are the biggest buyers of
> textbooks in the country, and what we adopt in Texas is what the rest of
> the country gets," said Carol Jones, the field director of the Texas
> chapter of Citizens for a Sound Economy, part of the coalition
> monitoring
> books for errors, examples of political bias, omissions or information
> that
> it deems offensive and that it says gives the texts a liberal slant.
> Peggy Venable, director of the Texas chapter, said executives at Pearson
> Prentice Hall withdrew "Out of Many," because they "wisely didn't want
> to
> jeopardize their larger sales in the state by having that book as its
> poster child."
> This year, Pearson Prentice Hall is offering 27 other books for adoption
> in
> Texas, ranging from texts for first grade social studies to ones for
> Advanced Placement world history. The potential prize is great: Texas
> has
> allocated $700 million over the next two years for textbooks and related
> materials in history and social studies  a sizable chunk of the nation's
> $4.5 billion textbook market.
> Most states, including New York, choose textbooks on a school-by-school
> or
> district-by-district basis, but Texas and California buy them through a
> formal statewide process. The Texas board votes in November, giving the
> state's schools lists of approved textbooks to choose from.
> In 1995, the Texas legislature sought to eliminate politically charged
> conflicts by passing a law that limited the grounds for a book's
> rejection
> to physical defects or "factual inaccuracy." In recent years, though,
> conservative groups have become adept at blocking books by arguing that
> political bias and the omission of certain facts constitute "factual
> inaccuracy." Moreover, the provision in the Texas Education Code that
> textbooks should promote democracy, patriotism and the free-enterprise
> system has been used to attack certain books.
> Thus the Texas case raises a series of new questions about how to write
> history. What constitutes an "error" in a history or science textbook?
> What
> facts are central and which can be omitted? Should history books
> inculcate
> patriotism and appreciation of free enterprise? And most significantly,
> who
> should decide those questions?
> The conservative groups are feeling confident after last year's adoption
> process for environmental science texts, in which they succeeded in
> persuading the Board of Education to reject two texts.
> Among other things, those books were criticized as "anti-technology,"
> "anti-Christian" and "anti-American," and for saying there was
> scientific
> consensus that global warming was changing the earth's climate.
> An environmental science book that ultimately won approval, "Global
> Science:
> Energy, Resources, Environment" published by Kendall/Hunt, was partly
> financed by the Mineral Information Institute, a consortium of mining
> companies. Duggan Flanakin, who wrote influential reports on the
> textbooks
> for the Texas Public Policy Foundation, a conservative organization,
> used
> to work for the United States Bureau of Mines. And Ms. Shore, the Board
> of
> Education chairwoman, is a co-owner of TEC Well Service Inc., a
> Longview,
> Tex., company that repairs and deepens oil wells as well as produces gas
> and oil.
> "The oil and gas industry should be consulted," she told The Austin
> American-Statesman, a daily newspaper, at the time of last year's board
> vote.  "We always get a raw deal."
> One Dallas publisher, J. M. LeBel Enterprises, after having Jane L.
> Person's "Environmental Science: How the World Works and Your Place in
> It"
> rejected on Nov. 8, spent most of the next night working with state
> education officials to incorporate a series of changes in this high
> school
> textbook suggested by one of the foundation's critiques. These changes
> resulted in the book's approval.
> Ms. Venable and other conservative critics insist that they do not want
> to
> edit or rewrite textbooks, only to assure that they are stripped of
> ideology and offer a straightforward, objective statement of facts.
> But Reni LeBel, the publishing company's president, deplored the
> process,
> even though he maintained that he did not alter the book's fundamental
> content. "It was a book burning," he said. "It was 100 percent
> political."
> At the suggestion of the foundation, the LeBel company rewrote the
> sentence
> "Destruction of the tropical rain forest could affect weather over the
> entire planet" so that it now reads, "Tropical rain forest ecosystems
> impact weather over the entire planet." It also added these sentences:
> "In
> the past, the earth has been much warmer than it is now, and fossils of
> sea
> creatures show us that the sea level was much higher than it is today.
> So
> does it really matter if the world gets warmer?"
>
> The foundation also succeeded in having this sentence deleted: "Most
> experts on global warming feel that immediate action should be taken to
> curb global warming."
> "We are now telling them what to write and what not to write," Mary
> Helen
> Berlanga, a Democratic member of the Board of Education, said of
> authors.  (The board has 10 Republicans and 5 Democrats.)
> But others say this is simply democracy at work. "We citizens are truly
> the
> clients," Ms. Venable said. "It is our children's education and future
> at
> stake, and our tax dollars are paying for the books. If people in Texas
> are
> more conservative than people in Massachusetts or New York, so be it."
> Singled out for particular censure at last year's hearings and
> ultimately
> rejected by the Board of Education was "Environmental Science: Creating
> a
> Sustainable Future," by Daniel D. Chiras, published by Jones & Bartlett,
> a
> small company in Sudbury, Mass. The book is in its sixth edition and has
> been used widely in colleges for the past 20 years.
> Professor Chiras, who teaches at the University of Denver and the
> University of Colorado, does not disguise his environmental activism.
> "Things can't go on as they have been," he writes in the opening
> chapter.
> "We must change our ways." He criticizes the "throwaway mentality" and
> "obsession with growth" in American life, disapproves of the
> environmental
> policies of Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr. and praises
> those
> of Bill Clinton.
> The day before the Board of Education voted, the Texas Public Policy
> Foundation distributed a 24-page critique that listed all of what it
> called
> the Chiras book's errors. At one point, for example, the critique
> attacks
> Professor Chiras for repeating the "oft-used falsehood that over 100
> million Americans are breathing unhealthy air." It points out that since
> pollution levels in most American cities exceed allowable standards only
> on
> certain days of the year, "on most days, the air in every city in the
> U.S.
> is healthy." But is this inaccuracy or two different ways of
> interpreting
> the same facts?
> "I think it's really dangerous that the Texas Public Policy Foundation
> has
> so much influence that you have publishers writing to please the
> conservative right at the risk of suppressing alternative views and
> critically examining the issues," said Dean DeChambeau, director of
> development for Jones & Bartlett. "We lost a quarter of a million
> dollars'
> worth of business. Other publishers, who would lose millions of dollars
> of
> business if they lost an adoption, are more likely to be influenced by
> the
> groups."
> After the battle over environmental science, Ms. Venable and other
> activists on the textbook front were contacted by a number of
> publishers.
> Their hope was that by consulting critics in advance, they might avoid a
> battle at the hearings that could lead to their books' rejection.
> "I think there is a very great danger of self-censorship," said Byron
> Hollinshead, the president of American Historical Publications, the New
> York company that produced "The History of US," a middle school textbook
> distributed by Oxford University Press. "If a big publisher produces an
> edition specifically for Texas and then hears from these groups that
> they
> want a series of changes, they are going to make them."
> Texas holds adoptions for different academic subjects each year; it
> generally replaces textbooks in a given subject every six years, so that
> books approved this time would be in circulation until 2009.
> When Pearson Prentice Hall decided to submit "Out of Many: A History of
> the
> American People," the company hired a high school teacher to alert it to
> potential problems. "They were mostly questions involving sexuality,
> homosexuality, AIDS, prostitution, things like that," said Mari Jo
> Buhle, a
> professor of history at Brown University and one of the book's
> co-authors.
> The teacher suggested, for example, taking out the paragraphs that dealt
> with the gay rights movement in the 1970's and the development of birth
> control. The authors agreed to make some concessions by removing
> profanity
> in historical quotations.
> But they refused to change anything of substance, like the subsection on
> gay rights, the mention of Margaret Sanger and the development of
> contraception and the "Cowgirls and Prostitutes" section. The passages
> on
> prostitution tell about the economic forces that pushed women into
> prostitution and the health hazards they were exposed to. The book's
> critics felt it had no place in American history.
> "I don't mean that we should sweep things under the rug," Ms. Venable
> said.
> "But the children should see the hope and the good things about
> America."
> But it is inevitably tricky to reconcile Texas's requirement that
> textbooks
> promote democracy, patriotism and free enterprise with the historian's
> supposedly disinterested pursuit of truth. The politics of the day are
> always going to influence the presentation of history, said John Mack
> Faragher, a history professor at Yale University and the lead author of
> "Out of Many."
> "There was no women's history until there was a women's movement, there
> was
> no African-American history before there was a civil rights movement,"
> he
> said. "Historical practice is very much determined by the things that
> people are concerned about."
> "History is ultimately a moral art, and it is about values," he
> continued.
> "It is not merely about the collection of facts. It is about the way we
> put
> those facts together and the meaning we give them. Arguments about facts
> are arguments about meaning."
> ______________________________________
>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:09:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07593
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 16:09:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E473CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:22:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12554398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:27:47 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g622Rl906802 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:27:47 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYL00KMUO6BER@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 01 Jul 2002 21:27:47 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207011926350.26697-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <3D210052.AC1747AF@maynor.net> <3D210243.195C497F@valstar.net>
            <3D210622.6BB975DB@maynor.net> <3D210786.C14A0937@valstar.net>
Message-ID:  <3D210F4D.3090800@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:26:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
>>Interesting.  I wouldn't have guessed you as one who would like eating
>>fat on fat.  Steaks by themselves strike me as repulsively <heavy>.  The
>>idea of rubbing more fat onto their natural fatiness strikes me as way
>>weird.
>>
>
> Weird it may be. But tasty. I don't like eating the fat on steaks. The
> meat itself is not fatty. Here is a tit for tat: I think it is way weird
> that you don't like butter at all. I also eat that in chunks by itself
> sometimes. I don't mean that I go especially to the refrigerator to get
> it, but if it is out for cooking, I often cut off an inch or so and let
> it melt in my mouth.


        I love the taste of butter, but I stop short of eating the
stuff by itself.  I'm trying to cut down on how much butter
I eat -- not very successfully as today I had two pieces of
buttered bread and a cucumber for lunch.  Tomorrow I'll put
jam on the bread...

        I love the fat on meat.  My favorite part of a steak or pork
chop is that fatty rind and sometimes that's all I'll eat.
And the only part of poultry I really love to eat is the skin.

        My husband, Jack Sprat, can't stand butter, chicken skin, or
the fat on meat.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:11:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07600
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 16:11:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000D20F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:29:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12554444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:29:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g622TS906923 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:29:28 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C41A985ED; Mon,  1
          Jul 2002 19:29:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702022927.C41A985ED@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:29:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D210F4D.3090800@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 1,
              2002  9:26:21 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
>         My husband, Jack Sprat, can't stand butter, chicken skin, or
> the fat on meat.

Do you eat salmon skin?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:17:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07612
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 16:17:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000D22A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:34:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12554632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:35:00 -0400
Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.84]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g622Yx907379 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          22:34:59 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #1) id 17PDVK-0001Jg-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 01
          Jul 2002 22:34:58 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEANFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <3D21013B.4C75E876@maynor.net> <3D21023E.86DA7D5B@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010436b946c0d006a8@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:30:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21023E.86DA7D5B@maynor.net>

>A quick googling on pasta produced this:
>
>|A 1/2 cup serving of cooked pasta (spaghetti) contains a mere 99
>calories, |less than half a gram of fat, and less than
>|5 milligrams of sodium.
>from: http://www.cafecreosote.com/Reference/PastaPage.php3

Yeah, fine. When was the last time you ate half a cup of pasta?

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:18:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07616
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 16:18:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4748D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:31:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12554669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:36:50 -0400
Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.84]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g622an907477 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          22:36:49 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #1) id 17PDX6-0003Pm-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 01
          Jul 2002 22:36:49 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702020037.0F2D3864A@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010437b946c11817d5@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:32:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020702020037.0F2D3864A@yellow.rahul.net>

>Bethany K. Dumas said:
>>  On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>>  >I've been told that some steak houses cook their steaks in
>>  >butter--like Ruth's Chris.
>  >
>  > What else would you use to cook it?
>
>Its own fat. Olive oil. Walnut oil. Sesame oil.

All about the same number of calories, of course.

I've been trying to convince my mother for years that potatoes fried
in bacon grease are the same number of calories as potatoes fried in
butter (and they taste better). I think intellectually she knows it,
but she just can't *believe* it.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:22:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07626
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 16:22:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000D2453@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:40:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12554757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:40:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g622eM907706 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:40:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5C30C7C8F; Mon,  1
          Jul 2002 19:40:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702024021.5C30C7C8F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:40:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Rain is not necessarily good
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

We've had so much rain in the past few days that all the counties that
had July 4th burn bans cancelled them. There's flash flooding
everywhere; My New Friend's patio is under water and it's approaching
his house. I'm on a hill, so I'm in pretty good shape for the most
part, though one of my flowerbeds has standing water in it.

The water has been coming down so hard that today when I was backing
out of a parking space, I had to turn the wipers on to their highest
setting. So I backed out, and as I was pulling forward to leave the
lot, the van parked next to me (that was now in front of me) backed
into me and creamed the front of my car.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:24:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07649
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 16:24:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000D24CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:42:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12554815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:42:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g622gP907831 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:42:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DB51181AF; Mon,  1
          Jul 2002 19:42:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702024224.DB51181AF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:42:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a05010437b946c11817d5@[192.168.1.100]> from Janet Hardy at "Jul
              1, 2002  7:32:45 pm"

Janet Hardy said:
> >Bethany K. Dumas said:
> >>  On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >>  >I've been told that some steak houses cook their steaks in
> >>  >butter--like Ruth's Chris.
> >  >
> >  > What else would you use to cook it?
> >
> >Its own fat. Olive oil. Walnut oil. Sesame oil.
>
> All about the same number of calories, of course.

But some are 'better' fats than others.

> I've been trying to convince my mother for years that potatoes fried
> in bacon grease are the same number of calories as potatoes fried in
> butter (and they taste better). I think intellectually she knows it,
> but she just can't *believe* it.

There's all the salt in the bacon fat, too.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:25:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07660
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 16:25:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000D2529@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:43:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12554868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:43:50 -0400
Received: from [216.138.220.251] (H251.C220.tor.velocet.net [216.138.220.251])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g622hn907930 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:43:50 -0400
Received: from Spooler by [216.138.220.251] (Mercury/32 v3.21c) ID MO000FC6; 1
          Jul 02 22:44:35 -0400
Received: from spooler by [216.138.220.251] (Mercury/32 v3.21c); 1 Jul 02
          22:44:20 -0400
Received: from turvey (127.0.0.1) by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.21c) ID MG000FC5; 1
          Jul 02 22:44:15 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d)
Message-ID:  <80269CFE2655@[216.138.220.251]>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:44:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Libraries
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D20FFEA.A29F776D@maynor.net>

On 1 Jul 02, at 20:20, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Most people of my generation in the US learned to
> read on Dick and Jane.  Canada also, I think.  I will forever be
> grateful to Don Borody for sending me a D&J book several years ago.  It
> sits on display between Toni and Raggedy Ann.

I started on Dick and Jane in Ontario in, um I suppose 1959 or
so. It's the only non-Canadian textbook I can remember using
until university. Not that I noticed it at the time, of
course. I don't think Dick and Jane were doing blatantly
American things like saluting the flag or celebrating the 4th
of July or saying Zee.

I've come across Ontario textbooks from earlier years (the
1920s and 30s), and they were very much more home grown
Ontario stuff, with a certain British flavour to them. Maybe
there was some sort of postwar American experiment that I
happened to encounter.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:26:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07664
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 16:26:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E47556@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:39:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12554882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:44:20 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g622iJ907975 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:44:19
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g622iJA62702 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          22:44:19 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEBDFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:43:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2100E7.AB598279@maynor.net>

> S Hess wrote:
>
> > but I'd rather drop bread, rice & pasta than have one of those gastric
> > bypass operations not to mention saving $20k on the operation.
> Right now, if
> > I wanted to gain weight, I'd start making sandwiches.
>
> As I said earlier, I'm certainly not an authority on this subject, but I
> feel pretty confident that bread, rice, and pasta are far less caloric
> than things like meat, butter, etc.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

I've been eating tons of meat, have not shied away from butter and have lost
a significant amount of weight. Weight I never lost when my diet was driven
more my bread, pasta, etc. I'll just stick with what's working for me. I had
bloodwork done a couple of weeks ago, my blood sugar is very regular these
days (88) and my cholesterol is 154 so I'm comfortable with what's been
working.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:28:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07668
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 16:28:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000D2609@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:46:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12554994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:46:46 -0400
Received: from [216.138.220.251] (H251.C220.tor.velocet.net [216.138.220.251])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g622kj908173 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:46:46 -0400
Received: from Spooler by [216.138.220.251] (Mercury/32 v3.21c) ID MO000FCA; 1
          Jul 02 22:47:31 -0400
Received: from spooler by [216.138.220.251] (Mercury/32 v3.21c); 1 Jul 02
          22:47:27 -0400
Received: from turvey (127.0.0.1) by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.21c) ID MG000FC9; 1
          Jul 02 22:47:20 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d)
Message-ID:  <802979065714@[216.138.220.251]>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:47:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F228xYH7x0JY9nIvx7O00003555@hotmail.com>

On 1 Jul 02, at 13:59, Marie Ascher wrote:

> I was just thinking that Alyce ought to spread some peanut butter on the
> bread.

And there are yummy other nut butters for the non lovers of
peanut butter among us. I'm particularly fond of a half and
half mixture of cashew and almond that seems to be sold under
the name of Mystery Butter.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:30:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07680
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 16:30:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E475C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:43:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12555053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:48:20 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g622mK908323 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:48:20
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g622mJA343214 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          22:48:20 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEBDFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:47:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D210F4D.3090800@swbell.net>

>         I love the fat on meat.  My favorite part of a steak or pork
> chop is that fatty rind and sometimes that's all I'll eat.
> And the only part of poultry I really love to eat is the skin.
>
>         My husband, Jack Sprat, can't stand butter, chicken skin, or
> the fat on meat.
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman

My dad's cousin (what does that make him to me? my cousin once removed?)
likes to tell about a North Pole explorer whose team (of people) ate red
meat with the fat trimmed off and they became quite ill and malnourished. He
was informed they needed to eat the fat on the meat because it contained a
particular vitamin (D?). Sometimes I eat the fat/skin...sometimes not.
Depends on my mood. I try not to go too crazy with it.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:32:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07684
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 16:32:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E47625@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:45:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12555212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:50:46 -0400
Received: from [216.138.220.251] (H251.C220.tor.velocet.net [216.138.220.251])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g622ok908545 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:50:46 -0400
Received: from Spooler by [216.138.220.251] (Mercury/32 v3.21c) ID MO000FCE; 1
          Jul 02 22:51:32 -0400
Received: from spooler by [216.138.220.251] (Mercury/32 v3.21c); 1 Jul 02
          22:51:18 -0400
Received: from turvey (127.0.0.1) by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.21c) ID MG000FCD; 1
          Jul 02 22:51:14 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D203AC5.48ADF822@maynor.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d)
Message-ID:  <802CFD4D54B4@[216.138.220.251]>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:51:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207010858010.25230-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

On 1 Jul 02, at 9:04, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> It seems to me that you not only expect others to read your mind, you also
> assume that you can read the minds of others. With all respect, I
> suggest that you cannot. Again, you remind me of my mother. She is
> positive she knows when something would be an inconvenience to someone
> else - without ever bothering to ASK. It is often an inconvenience or
> worse to people when the telephone does NOT ring, the email does NOT
> arrive, one is NOT invited, one's help is NOT requested, etc.
>
> Communication is a wonderful thing - I think we should try it more often
> than we do. Mileage on all these matters varies greatly.
>
> But I know that we have here an example of what Tannen has called high
> politeness. Or maybe it was all the ChiO training.

I've not idea what ChiO is, but I don't think (your
interpretation of) Natalie's attitude is an example of
Tannen's high politeness. Tannen's examples all have to do
with dinner table conversation and interrupting style.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:34:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07691
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 16:34:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4765D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:47:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12555290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:52:37 -0400
Received: from [216.138.220.251] (H251.C220.tor.velocet.net [216.138.220.251])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g622qb908659 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:52:37 -0400
Received: from Spooler by [216.138.220.251] (Mercury/32 v3.21c) ID MO000FD1; 1
          Jul 02 22:53:23 -0400
Received: from spooler by [216.138.220.251] (Mercury/32 v3.21c); 1 Jul 02
          22:53:19 -0400
Received: from turvey (127.0.0.1) by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.21c) ID MG000FD0; 1
          Jul 02 22:53:13 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <20020630183049.A26931@yoccoz.multinix.com>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d)
Message-ID:  <802ED6FE13D2@[216.138.220.251]>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:53:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301250090.25365-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

On 30 Jun 02, at 12:51, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, steph wrote:
>
> >= In a city, they would be open until midnight on Saturday - and there would
> >= be an accupuncturist available.
> >
> >Your ideas of what to expect from a city are way weird.
>
> Interesting. They are based on experiences in NYC, San Francisco, Chicago,
> Washington, D.C., and Houston.

London is an example of a hardly less-than-world-class city
where the subway closes around 11PM on Friday and Saturday
nights.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:37:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07700
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 16:37:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E476C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:50:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12555499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:55:34 -0400
Received: from avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.50]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g622tY908877 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          22:55:34 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17PDpF-0000Yi-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon,
          01 Jul 2002 22:55:33 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702024224.DB51181AF@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010438b946c5200a3d@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:51:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020702024224.DB51181AF@yellow.rahul.net>

>Janet Hardy said:
>>  >Bethany K. Dumas said:
>>  >>  On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>>  >>  >I've been told that some steak houses cook their steaks in
>>  >>  >butter--like Ruth's Chris.
>>  >  >
>>  >  > What else would you use to cook it?
>>  >
>>  >Its own fat. Olive oil. Walnut oil. Sesame oil.
>>
>>  All about the same number of calories, of course.
>
>But some are 'better' fats than others.

Yes, I guess so. I'm cholesterolically gifted -- don't worry about
fat or salt intake, and my blood pressure stays low and my
cholesterol is in the bottom tenth percentile for women my age -- so
I don't pay too much attention to good and bad fats. Personally, I
broil my steaks anyway.

>  > I've been trying to convince my mother for years that potatoes fried
>>  in bacon grease are the same number of calories as potatoes fried in
>>  butter (and they taste better). I think intellectually she knows it,
>  > but she just can't *believe* it.
>
>There's all the salt in the bacon fat, too.

Unless you use sweet butter, there's a fair amount of salt in that
too. And most people will put salt to taste on the potatoes anyway.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:39:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07707
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 16:39:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000D2982@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:57:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12555611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 22:57:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g622vP909007 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:57:26 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2541E7CFA; Mon,  1
          Jul 2002 19:57:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702025725.2541E7CFA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:57:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a05010438b946c5200a3d@[192.168.1.100]> from Janet Hardy at "Jul
              1, 2002  7:51:35 pm"

Janet Hardy said:
> Yes, I guess so. I'm cholesterolically gifted -- don't worry about
> fat or salt intake, and my blood pressure stays low and my
> cholesterol is in the bottom tenth percentile for women my age

You're lucky!

> Unless you use sweet butter, there's a fair amount of salt in that
> too. And most people will put salt to taste on the potatoes anyway.

True. If I use bacon, I don't use salt.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 17:29:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07752
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 17:29:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4807F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 23:42:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12560643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 23:47:22 -0400
Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g623lM913821 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 23:47:22 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.1bb.2949f2c (4389) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          23:47:14 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <1bb.2949f2c.2a527c42@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 23:47:14 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/01/2002 1:04:49 PM Central Daylight Time,
Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM writes:

<<
My grandma used to butter her bread
before spreading peanut butter on it.
>>

When I was a child, our next-door neighbor would make bologna
sandwiches with both butter and Miracle Whip.  To this day, that's
my favorite way of making bologna sandwiches.

Anybody know anyone in Tulsa who needs a job?  We lost one
person in electronics, are probably going to lose another in that
department, and are definitely losing at least two in refrigerators.
So that leaves just me in vacuums, two in refrigerators, and three
(maybe four if the new guy stays) in electronics.  You would
think that someone in the district would get worried about this
store.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 17:36:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07765
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 17:36:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4811C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 23:48:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12560840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Jul
          2002 23:54:07 -0400
Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g623s6914169 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 23:54:06 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.1a0.49a259d (4389) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          23:53:59 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <1a0.49a259d.2a527dd7@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 23:53:59 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Libraries
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/01/2002 5:51:54 PM Central Daylight Time,
natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes:

<<
I would think that most people even now would have heard of Dick and
Jane.
>>

We had Alice and Jerry and their dog, Jip.  Those books bored me;
I was reading more advanced stuff at home.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 18:06:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07799
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 18:06:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000D4753@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 0:24:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12563880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 00:24:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g624OW917636 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 00:24:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D85157C88; Mon,  1
          Jul 2002 21:24:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702042430.D85157C88@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:24:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Why, Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I didn't know that Mississippi had a state toy.

Do other states have state toys?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 18:07:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07811
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 18:07:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000D47A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 0:25:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12563900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 00:25:15 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g624PF917693 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 00:25:15 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust199.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.201]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004938945@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 00:25:10 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702024021.5C30C7C8F@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D212B0B.9FEEFD9B@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 00:24:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Rain is not necessarily good
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> the van parked next to me (that was now in front of me) backed
> into me and creamed the front of my car.

[Expletive] Oh, dear. Is it fixable? Does the person have good
insurance?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 18:09:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07815
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 18:09:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000D4896@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 0:27:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12563907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 00:26:44 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g624Qi917725 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 00:26:44 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust199.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.201]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003631161@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 00:26:43 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEBDFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D212B69.89469D22@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 00:26:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:
> I've been eating tons of meat, have not shied away from butter and have lost
> a significant amount of weight. Weight I never lost when my diet was driven
> more my bread, pasta, etc.

Different things work for different people. A few years ago both Doug
and his wife lost significant weight by totally abandoning all
wheat-based products.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 18:14:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07823
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 18:14:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4872A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 0:27:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12564042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 00:32:29 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g624WT918072 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 00:32:29 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust199.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.201]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004939042@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 00:32:28 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <1bb.2949f2c.2a527c42@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D212CC2.183BFF2B@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 00:32:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Evelyn Duncan wrote:
>
> When I was a child, our next-door neighbor would make bologna
> sandwiches with both butter and Miracle Whip.  To this day, that's
> my favorite way of making bologna sandwiches.
>
I did not know there was any other way.

alyce


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 18:27:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07835
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 18:27:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000D5102@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 0:45:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12564414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 00:45:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g624jm919301 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 00:45:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1E3A77D32; Mon,  1
          Jul 2002 21:45:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702044548.1E3A77D32@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:45:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rain is not necessarily good
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D212B0B.9FEEFD9B@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 2,
              2002  0:24:43 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > the van parked next to me (that was now in front of me) backed
> > into me and creamed the front of my car.
>
> [Expletive]

Thank you.

> Oh, dear. Is it fixable?

Yes, it's fixable. I wasn't moving, and he stopped when he made
contact, or it would be worse.

When the guy's lights went on, I said to My New Friend, "Do you think
he sees me?" and then the guy started to back out, and MNF said "No."
I pressed on my horn as loud as I could, but he wasn't paying
attention.

Also, my neck has started to hurt, which is not a good
thing.

> Does the person have good insurance?

I think so; I'll find out more tomorrow. This was NOT on my list of
things to do.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 18:49:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07909
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 18:49:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E48A6E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 1:02:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12565592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 01:07:44 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6257h921978 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 01:07:43 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g625B4A30686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:11:04
          +0200
References: <F228xYH7x0JY9nIvx7O00003555@hotmail.com>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEPPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020702071104.A30672@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:11:04 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEPPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>; from
              Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM on Mon, Jul 01,
              2002 at 11:03:42AM -0700

On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 11:03:42AM -0700, S Hess wrote:
= smart thinking!!! I'll go ya one better. My grandma used to butter her bread
= before spreading peanut butter on it. A double caloric whammy. I thought it
= was very odd.
=
= Sandra
=

The Dutch do this.  I don't ask about lunch habits, as I still
get strange looks when I take sliced bread, sliced cheese,
lettuce, tomato, cucumber and other misc. things out of my salad
and make a sandwich out of it.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 19:14:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07991
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 19:14:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E48C42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 1:27:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12566163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 01:32:17 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g625WH923830 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 01:32:17 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA01959
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          22:32:16 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 68D4F97004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon,  1 Jul 2002 22:32:15 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 1955 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2002 05:32:14 -0000
Received: from p31.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.78?) (66.237.73.78) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 2 Jul 2002 05:32:14 -0000
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEPPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>; from    
            Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM on Mon, Jul 01,
            2002 at 11:03:42AM -0700 <F228xYH7x0JY9nIvx7O00003555@hotmail.com>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEPPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Moment-Of-Dada: But will they have fireworks fish swimming under a fireworks
                  waterfall?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130304b946eb057e25@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:32:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020702071104.A30672@yoccoz.multinix.com>

>The Dutch do this.  I don't ask about lunch habits, as I still
>get strange looks when I take sliced bread, sliced cheese,
>lettuce, tomato, cucumber and other misc. things out of my salad
>and make a sandwich out of it.
>
>steph

Why is there sliced bread in your salad?  Is that a Dutch thing?

Ken Miller
Organoleptics Department
California Institute of Haughty Cuisine

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 19:23:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08065
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 19:23:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E48D01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 1:36:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12566825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 01:41:31 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g625fU925494 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 01:41:30 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA03194
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          22:41:28 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F65297004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon,  1 Jul 2002 22:41:27 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 3175 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2002 05:41:26 -0000
Received: from p31.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.78?) (66.237.73.78) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 2 Jul 2002 05:41:26 -0000
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207011926350.26697-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <3D210052.AC1747AF@maynor.net> <3D210243.195C497F@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Moment-Of-Dada: But will they have fireworks fish swimming under a fireworks
                  waterfall?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130300b946d43421d8@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:41:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D210622.6BB975DB@maynor.net>

>Interesting.  I wouldn't have guessed you as one who would like eating
>fat on fat.  Steaks by themselves strike me as repulsively <heavy>.  The
>idea of rubbing more fat onto their natural fatiness strikes me as way
>weird.
>
>--
> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

And I think it's weird that you don't like dead cow.

Shakin' son goo.

Ken Miller
Hermeneutic Correspondent
The Lostin Times

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 19:28:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08079
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 19:28:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E48D50@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 1:40:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12566910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 01:45:57 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g625ju925766 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 01:45:56 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA03945
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Mon, 1 Jul 2002
          22:45:55 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 59D0597004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon,  1 Jul 2002 22:45:55 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 3939 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2002 05:45:54 -0000
Received: from p31.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.78?) (66.237.73.78) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 2 Jul 2002 05:45:54 -0000
References: <3D210F4D.3090800@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Moment-Of-Dada: But will they have fireworks fish swimming under a fireworks
                  waterfall?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130302b946d5d38347@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:45:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEBDFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

>My dad's cousin (what does that make him to me? my cousin once removed?)

>Sandra

If he is your dad's first cousin, then he is your first cousin once removed.

Really, I fail to understand why so many people have such a hard time with
this nomenclature.  It's so <logical>.

Ken Miller
Orismological Correspondent
The Lostin Times

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 19:43:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08166
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 19:43:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E48FDC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 1:56:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12568359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 02:01:48 -0400
Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6261m927970 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 02:01:48 -0400
Received: from dorism212@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.3b.28cf3c2d (16634) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          02:01:38 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  7bit
Message-ID:  <3b.28cf3c2d.2a529bc1@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 02:01:37 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: dorism212@AOL.COM
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L Digest - 1 Jul 2002 - Special issue (#2002-1163)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 7/1/2002 8:31:43 PM Central Daylight Time,
LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU writes:


> My grandmother spreads butter on her bread before making any sandwich.
> She's French Canadian.
>
> Terry
>

So do I.  I have always felt a sandwich isn't a sandwich
without a little butter.  But then several years ago a chef
showed me how to make some great sandwiches for
a party, and explained that you should completely
cover the bread with a light coating of butter first so
that the sandwich filling will not soak into the bread.
Makes sense to me.  I still make these sandwiches
often for parties or when I'm having lots of guests in
my home, and the sandwiches stay just perfect in
my frig drawer for whenever anyone's hungry.

                - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 20:02:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA08240
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 20:02:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4917C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 2:14:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12568996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 02:20:00 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g626Jx929639 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 02:19:59 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020702061953.NBRF9178.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:19:53 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEANFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <3D21013B.4C75E876@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020701211838.023f8aa0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Mon, 1 Jul 2002 23:16:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21023E.86DA7D5B@maynor.net>

Natalie Maynor quotes,

>A 1/2 cup serving of cooked pasta (spaghetti) contains a mere 99 calories

To compare grams to grams, 100 grams of 'Spaghetti, cooked, enriched,
without added salt' (no sauce) has 141 calories, and 100 grams of 'Beef,
composite of trimmed retail cuts, separable lean and fat, trimmed to 1/8"
fat, choice, cooked' has 301 calories.  (From the USDA Food Composition
database <http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl>, which has
lots of other foods, too, of course.)

Another way to think about what to eat is the USDA Food Pyramid
<http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/Fpyr/pyramid.html>.  A daily diet with an
intermediate caloric intake would be something like this:

Fats, Oils, Sweets: Use Sparingly
Meat Group Servings: 2
Milk Group Servings: 2-3
Fruit Group Servings: 3
Vegetable Group Servings: 4
Grain Group Servings: 9

The "servings" in the Grain Group are small and often a subdivision of a
practical serving.  Here's a note about it: "Q: Isn't 6 to 11 servings of
breads and cereals a lot?  A: It may sound like a lot, but it's really not.
For example, a slice of bread is one serving, so a sandwich for lunch would
equal two servings. A small bowl of cereal and one slice of toast for
breakfast are two more servings. And if you have a cup of rice or pasta at
dinner, that's two more servings. A snack of 3 or 4 small plain crackers
adds yet another serving. So now you've had 7 servings. It adds up quicker
than you think!"

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 22:50:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08756
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 22:50:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E49E55@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 5:02:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12572323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 05:07:55 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6297s908111 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 05:07:54 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g629BH231053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:11:17
          +0200
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEPPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>;
            <F228xYH7x0JY9nIvx7O00003555@hotmail.com>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEPPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <20020702071104.A30672@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <v03130304b946eb057e25@[198.144.202.197]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020702111117.A31043@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:11:17 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130304b946eb057e25@[198.144.202.197]>; from
              bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM on Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 10:32:01PM -0700

Let me edit:

On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 10:32:01PM -0700, Bookrat wrote:
= >The Dutch do this.  I don't ask about lunch habits, as I still
= >get strange looks when I take sliced bread, sliced cheese,

and

= >lettuce, tomato, cucumber and other misc. things out of my salad
= >and make a sandwich out of it.
= >
= >steph
=
= Why is there sliced bread in your salad?  Is that a Dutch thing?
=
= Ken Miller
= Organoleptics Department
= California Institute of Haughty Cuisine

Fruit in salad is a dutch thing.  Raisins turn up in the
strangest places.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 22:58:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08766
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 22:58:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000DBD6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 5:16:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12572378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 05:16:13 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g629GC908479 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 05:16:13 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g629JZG31087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:19:35
          +0200
References: <F84gX4VMWf7JS84PbED0000401d@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020702111935.B31043@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:19:35 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: food discovery
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F84gX4VMWf7JS84PbED0000401d@hotmail.com>; from
              toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM on Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 02:03:34PM -0500

On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 02:03:34PM -0500, Anne Toal wrote:
= MMM MMM---chopped garlic fried in chicken fat tastes pretty good. Crunchy
= and golden.
=
= -aht

Oy Vey!  Have you never made chopped liver?

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 23:00:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08780
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 26 May 1960 23:00:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E49EE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 5:12:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12572387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 05:17:53 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g629Hr908546 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 05:17:53 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g629LGl31103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:21:16
          +0200
References: <F132SeOxV2RQHtQlGpf0000358d@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020702112115.C31043@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:21:15 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: help
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F132SeOxV2RQHtQlGpf0000358d@hotmail.com>; from
              lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM on Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 03:02:06PM -0400

On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 03:02:06PM -0400, Marie Ascher wrote:
= Can you see this image:  http://library.nymc.edu/images/linkou1.gif ?
=
= Marie
=    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
=

This is working now.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 00:47:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA09084
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 00:47:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4A72C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 6:59:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12547857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:05:16 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62B5G928691 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:05:16 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws72-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.72]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62B5DQ06892
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:05:14 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207012148280.4091-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2188E8.ABB92AAB@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:05:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >I've been told that some steak houses cook their steaks in
> >butter--like Ruth's Chris.
>
> What else would you use to cook it?

The only way I've ever cooked steak or seen it cooked has involved
flopping it onto a grill, fueled by either charcoal or gas.  No butter
has been involved.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 00:53:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA09119
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 00:53:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4A791@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:05:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12547952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:10:54 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62BAs928994 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:10:54 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws72-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.72]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62BApQ07692
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:10:52 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207011926350.26697-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <3D210052.AC1747AF@maynor.net> <3D210243.195C497F@valstar.net>
            <3D210622.6BB975DB@maynor.net> <3D210786.C14A0937@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D218A3A.7EA209DB@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:10:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Weird it may be. But tasty. I don't like eating the fat on steaks. The
> meat itself is not fatty.

I thought fat was interspersed throughout the meat.  I know that some
big hunks of fat are obvious and can be removed, but I'm talking about
little slithers of fat that are inseparable from the meat.

> Here is a tit for tat: I think it is way weird
> that you don't like butter at all.

????????????  Whatever gave you the idea that I don't like butter?

> I also eat that in chunks by itself
> sometimes.

I'm almost sure I've told the story here of the time I went to a party
that featured various home-made breads with various kinds of cheese to
put on the bread, fell in love with one kind of cheese and kept on
putting hunks of it on the various breads, mentioned to the hostess how
much I adored that particular cheese, and she said, "but that's just
butter."  I realized then that indeed it was.  I hadn't recognized it by
appearance because of the dim lights and because it was in a big square
that wasn't like the sticks of butter I normally buy.  And we were all
pretty drunk, of course.  Once she told me, however, I realized that it
was butter and that that was why I loved it so much.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 00:55:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA09124
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 00:55:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4A7C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:08:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12547817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:13:34 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62B3Y928603 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:03:34 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g62B3XOI014212 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:03:33 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207020702230.6876-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:03:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020702020037.0F2D3864A@yellow.rahul.net>

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> >I've been told that some steak houses cook their steaks in
>> >butter--like Ruth's Chris.
>>
>> What else would you use to cook it?
>
>Its own fat. Olive oil. Walnut oil. Sesame oil.

I much prefer butter. When I grill at home, I don't like to put the meat
on bare metal - so I use butter. Unsalted butter.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 00:56:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA09131
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 00:56:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4A7CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:08:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12547842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:13:56 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62B3u928624 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:03:56 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g62B3uOI014310 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:03:56 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207020703410.6876-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:03:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D210941.D8F8BE1A@valstar.net>

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

>> What else would you use to cook it?
>
>I broil steaks, never fry them.

Yuck! I would never fry a steak.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 00:56:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA09135
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 00:56:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4A7E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:09:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12548024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:14:42 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62BEg929293 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:14:42 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws72-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.72]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62BEeQ08219
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:14:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207012152370.4167-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D218B1F.1487FFAC@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:14:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: when, Natalie?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> What day are you officially retired, Natalie? July 31? Will you cry or
> celebrate? Or fly to Finland?

It was either June 30 or July 1.  Some papers gave one date, others the
other date.  That's why I said that I wasn't sure Sunday whether I was
or wasn't an MSU employee and thus there would be confusion about who to
sue if I ran over a pedestrian or hit a squirrel with a book flung from
my window.  Whichever day it was, I spent most of it undoing my many
years of office packrattiness.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 00:58:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA09139
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 00:58:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4A7F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:10:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12547889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:16:05 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62B65928758 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:06:05 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g62B65OI014783 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:06:05 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207020705510.6876-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:06:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <802979065714@[216.138.220.251]>

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Tony Harminc wrote:

>And there are yummy other nut butters for the non lovers of
>peanut butter among us. I'm particularly fond of a half and
>half mixture of cashew and almond that seems to be sold under
>the name of Mystery Butter.

Seems?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 01:00:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09154
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 01:00:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000DEBEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:18:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12547927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:18:21 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62B8L928876 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:08:21 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g62B8KOI015404 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:08:20 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207020707140.6876-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:08:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <802CFD4D54B4@[216.138.220.251]>

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Tony Harminc wrote:

>I've not idea what ChiO is, but I don't think (your
>interpretation of) Natalie's attitude is an example of
>Tannen's high politeness. Tannen's examples all have to do
>with dinner table conversation and interrupting style.

Chi Omega. It's Natalie's behavior that I am calling HP. Tannen has
generalized beyond dinner table conversation.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 01:01:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09158
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 01:01:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4A830@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:13:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12547935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:19:15 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62B9F928912 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:09:15 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g62B9EOI015633 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:09:14 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207020708390.6876-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:09:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Why, Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020702042430.D85157C88@yellow.rahul.net>

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>I didn't know that Mississippi had a state toy.
>
>Do other states have state toys?

NOt TN - we cannot afford one.

But we do have a bowling ball fence.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 01:06:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09162
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 01:06:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000DEE79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:24:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12548020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:24:25 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62BEO929280 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:14:24 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g62BEOOI016623 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:14:24 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207020713320.6876-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:14:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <802ED6FE13D2@[216.138.220.251]>

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Tony Harminc wrote:

>> >= In a city, they would be open until midnight on Saturday - and there would
>> >= be an accupuncturist available.
>> >
>> >Your ideas of what to expect from a city are way weird.
>>
>> Interesting. They are based on experiences in NYC, San Francisco, Chicago,
>> Washington, D.C., and Houston.
>
>London is an example of a hardly less-than-world-class city
>where the subway closes around 11PM on Friday and Saturday
>nights.

Right. That's why I did not include it in my list, even though I lived
there for a year.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 01:08:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09181
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 01:08:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4A8CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:21:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12548276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:26:30 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62BQU930441 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:26:30 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws96-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.96]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62BQSQ09870
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:26:28 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEANFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <3D21013B.4C75E876@maynor.net> <3D21023E.86DA7D5B@maynor.net>
            <a05010436b946c0d006a8@[192.168.1.100]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D218DE3.92C4600B@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:26:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Janet Hardy wrote:

> Yeah, fine. When was the last time you ate half a cup of pasta?

Possibly yesterday.  No, I think not.  I can't remember for sure what I
ate yesterday.  I regularly put pasta on salads, but I think I didn't
eat a salad yesterday.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 01:09:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09191
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 01:09:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000DEF7B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:27:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12548304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:27:21 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62BRL930545 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:27:21 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws96-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.96]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62BRIQ10026
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:27:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702020037.0F2D3864A@yellow.rahul.net>
            <a05010437b946c11817d5@[192.168.1.100]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D218E15.A91CD665@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:27:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Janet Hardy wrote:

> >Its own fat. Olive oil. Walnut oil. Sesame oil.
>
> All about the same number of calories, of course.

It, whatever it is, isn't all about calories, is it?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 01:11:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09195
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 01:11:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4A905@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:23:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12548328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:29:10 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62BTA930657 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:29:10 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws96-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.96]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62BT7Q10300
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:29:08 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEBDFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D218E82.80FA95CA@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:29:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:

> I've been eating tons of meat, have not shied away from butter and have lost
> a significant amount of weight. Weight I never lost when my diet was driven
> more my bread, pasta, etc. I'll just stick with what's working for me. I had

I thought you said you'd also quit eating things like desserts.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 01:15:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09228
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 01:15:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4A95B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:28:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12548409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:33:28 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62BXR930951 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:33:27 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws96-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.96]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62BXPQ10860
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:33:25 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702024224.DB51181AF@yellow.rahul.net>
            <a05010438b946c5200a3d@[192.168.1.100]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D218F84.6555643E@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:33:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Janet Hardy wrote:

> Unless you use sweet butter, there's a fair amount of salt in that
> too. And most people will put salt to taste on the potatoes anyway.

The butter I buy says "unsalted" on the package.  Does it still contain
salt?  I've never tried to avoid salt.  I just prefer unsalted things to
salted things -- like peanuts.  I almost gagged when eating some roasted
peanuts not long ago because they were the salted kind and I'd forgotten
how salty salted peanuts are.  I don't put salt on potatoes, btw.  I do
put salt on tomatoes (if eating them straight -- I don't put it on them
if they're in something like a salad).  About the only other thing I put
salt on is watermelon.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 01:17:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09245
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 01:17:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4A980@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:29:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12548457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:34:56 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62BYt931092 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:34:56 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g62BcJB31457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:38:19
          +0200
References: <802ED6FE13D2@[216.138.220.251]>
            <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207020713320.6876-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020702133819.A31431@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:38:19 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207020713320.6876-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>; from
              dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU on Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 07:14:24AM -0400

On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 07:14:24AM -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
= On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Tony Harminc wrote:
=
= >> >= In a city, they would be open until midnight on Saturday - and there would
= >> >= be an accupuncturist available.
= >> >
= >> >Your ideas of what to expect from a city are way weird.
= >>
= >> Interesting. They are based on experiences in NYC, San Francisco, Chicago,
= >> Washington, D.C., and Houston.
= >
= >London is an example of a hardly less-than-world-class city
= >where the subway closes around 11PM on Friday and Saturday
= >nights.
=
= Right. That's why I did not include it in my list, even though I lived
= there for a year.
=
= Bethany

Then you are being a pain again.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 01:24:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09281
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 01:24:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000DF542@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:42:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12548701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:42:13 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe32.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.89]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62BgD931876 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:42:13 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 04:42:07 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
References: <F84gX4VMWf7JS84PbED0000401d@hotmail.com> 
            <20020702111935.B31043@yoccoz.multinix.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 11:42:07.0656 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[7E9D2A80:01C221BD]
Message-ID:  <OE32fbB1kOXXGQ3WrhJ000031d8@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:41:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: food discovery
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Oy Vey!  Have you never made chopped liver?

No, nor tasted it, either. I've seen it plenty of times on the cooking
shows, but no personal experience.

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 01:24:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09285
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 01:24:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4AA2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:37:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12548705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:42:20 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62BgJ931894 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:42:19 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws96-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.96]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62BgHQ12099
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:42:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020630183049.A26931@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <802ED6FE13D2@[216.138.220.251]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D219198.11920889@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:42:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tony Harminc wrote:

> London is an example of a hardly less-than-world-class city
> where the subway closes around 11PM on Friday and Saturday
> nights.

I thought it was midnight.  I'm not usually out that late anywhere, and
I realize now that I'm basing my thought on a memory that's pretty old
-- looking at my watch during a performance of all three parts of "The
Messiah," worrying about whether I was going to make it onto the last
subway before they quit running for the night.  I'm pretty sure that
watch-looking was occurring between 11 and 12.  (I did make it.)

Trains (both sub and super) in Tokyo stop running around midnight.  I
was always intrigued by the question of where they slept for the 4-5
hours they rested every night.  I never knew whether they stopped right
there in whatever station they were in (which would make sense since
they could resume service normally upon awakening the next morning) or
whether they snuggled together in stations with lots of tracks for
resting trains.  I think some of them slept in the Takahatafudo
station.  I think one of my Japanese friends told me that.

A friend of mine once got stuck in the heart of Tokyo when the trains
quit running for the night and had to pay close to $500 for a taxi
home.  Other friends have told me about how jammed and crazy the last
Keio train from Shinjuku to Seisekisakuragaoka always is.  Somehow I was
never on it.  I was on the next-to-last train a few times but not the
very last one.  I did figure out, though, that if I ever missed the last
train, I'd just hang out with the box people in Shinjuku Station until
the morning trains started running.  Or sleep in a nearby park.  That
would be fewer hours than I've often had to hang around in airports
waiting for connecting flights.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 01:25:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09289
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 01:25:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4AA4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:38:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12548734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:43:45 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Bhi931986 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:43:44 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws96-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.96]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62BhgQ12353
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:43:42 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702042430.D85157C88@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2191ED.A5AD2F8E@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:43:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Why, Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> I didn't know that Mississippi had a state toy.

I didn't either.  What is it?  I'm surprised I didn't have to learn it
in 7th grade history.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 01:29:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09306
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 01:29:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4AA8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:41:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12548868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:46:52 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Bkp932344 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:46:51 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws96-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.96]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62BknQ12799
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:46:49 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D210F4D.3090800@swbell.net>
            <v03130302b946d5d38347@[198.144.202.197]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2192A8.E8310892@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:46:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bookrat wrote:

> If he is your dad's first cousin, then he is your first cousin once removed.
>
> Really, I fail to understand why so many people have such a hard time with
> this nomenclature.  It's so <logical>.

I've wondered about that also.  It's amazing to me how many people think
that their first cousins once removed are second cousins.  I'm not sure
what they'd call their second cousins in that case.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 01:33:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09315
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 01:33:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000DF8B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:50:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12548991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:50:54 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Bos932712 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:50:54 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws96-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.96]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62BooQ13528
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:50:51 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEANFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <3D21013B.4C75E876@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020701211838.023f8aa0@mail.istori.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D219399.2971D6B1@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:50:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Kaminski quoted:

> ... 100 grams of 'Spaghetti ... has 141 calories, and 100 grams of 'Beef
> ... has 301 calories.

I didn't have any doubt that beef was more caloric, but I didn't realize
it had double the calories.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 01:34:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09334
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 01:34:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4AB02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:46:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12549014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:52:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Bq2900348 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:52:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws96-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.96]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62BpwQ13746
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:51:59 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207020702230.6876-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2193DD.BDD4121C@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:51:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> I much prefer butter. When I grill at home, I don't like to put the meat
> on bare metal - so I use butter. Unsalted butter.

If I were doing that, I'd spray the metal with Pam.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 01:36:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09341
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 01:36:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4AB39@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 7:49:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12549045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 07:54:20 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62BsK900498 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:54:20 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws96-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.96]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62BsIQ14119
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:54:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207020707140.6876-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D219469.966F9D4A@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:54:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> Chi Omega.

The reference, Tony, is to the sorority I was in in college.

> It's Natalie's behavior that I am calling HP. Tannen has
> generalized beyond dinner table conversation.

I don't remember anything in Tannen that reminds me of what we've been
talking about, but I haven't read her in a while now.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 02:49:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA09538
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 02:49:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4B3FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 9:01:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12552221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 09:07:00 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62D6x909011 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:06:59 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g62DANd31641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:10:23
          +0200
References: <F84gX4VMWf7JS84PbED0000401d@hotmail.com>
            <20020702111935.B31043@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <OE32fbB1kOXXGQ3WrhJ000031d8@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020702151023.A31630@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:10:23 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: food discovery
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE32fbB1kOXXGQ3WrhJ000031d8@hotmail.com>; from
              toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM on Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 06:41:15AM -0500

On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 06:41:15AM -0500, Anne H Toal wrote:
= > Oy Vey!  Have you never made chopped liver?
=
= No, nor tasted it, either. I've seen it plenty of times on the cooking
= shows, but no personal experience.
=
= -aht

Well, it's just that the first step is frying the garlic in the
chicken fat.  It's probably the first thing I learned to cook
that wasn't cookies, brownies or cake.

(Oh this is so timely - I didn't know it before, but the one guy
in the building I wouldn't be surprised to hear speaking Yiddish
is yammering in it on his mobile behind me as I type.  It's like
a maxing out of Jewish synergy or something.)

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 02:54:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA09548
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 02:54:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4B49E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 9:06:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12552508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 09:11:50 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62DBo909714 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:11:50 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11922 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:11:26 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 2 Jul 02
          09:11:36 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 2 Jul 02 08:47:17 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D216892.24148.1C1D83@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:47:15 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Why, Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2191ED.A5AD2F8E@maynor.net>

AP says:
This year marked the 100th anniversary of a hunting expedition by
President Theodore Roosevelt in the Mississippi Delta. After three
days without success, the president was offered a captive bear to kill,
and he refused.
A political cartoonist depicted Roosevelt's humane act, and toy bears
thereafter became widely known as teddy bears.
Hillman Frazier was one of two state senators opposing the bill,
calling it a frivolous distraction at a time lawmakers should be
working harder to support Medicaid and education.
"If we're going to adopt a state toy, based on what I've seen this
session, it should be the football because we're good at punting,"
Frazier said.
btw - I googled "sate toy" and got a significant number of hits about
"state Teacher Of the Year."

BrP



> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > I didn't know that Mississippi had a state toy.
>
> I didn't either.  What is it?  I'm surprised I didn't have to learn it
> in 7th grade history.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 03:04:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA09570
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 03:04:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4B5CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 9:16:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12552890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 09:22:15 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62DMF910684 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:22:15 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYM0016MIH289@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 02 Jul 2002 08:22:14 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020702022927.C41A985ED@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D21A8B1.3000304@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:20:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>        My husband, Jack Sprat, can't stand butter, chicken skin, or
>>the fat on meat.
>>
>
> Do you eat salmon skin?
>


        No.  I don't eat salmon.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 03:23:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11055
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 03:23:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4B8D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 9:35:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12553956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 09:40:57 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Dev912975 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:40:57 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYM002TVJC9R1@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 02 Jul 2002 08:40:57 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGEEKKFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Message-ID:  <3D21AD14.8050808@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:39:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Libraries
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:

>>I would think that most people even now would have heard of Dick and
>>Jane.  But younger people would almost certainly not know all the
>>references -- Spot, Puff, Baby Sally, the grandparents' farm, etc.
>>
>
> I sure don't. Spot, maybe. None of the others.
>
> Dick and Jane were the kids in the primers, weren't they? I vaguely remember
> those from kindergarten.


My dentist had a complete set of these in his office, and I
remember reading them there.  Ana's kindergarten primers
have Min, Nan, Tom, and Sam as the main characters.  She
also has a set of "primers" (just sheets) with stories I've
written for her using her word list for the summer.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 03:44:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11120
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 03:44:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4BC2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 9:57:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12555454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 10:02:36 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62E2a916393 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:02:36 -0400
Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu
          (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62E2WQ14664 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:02:34 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D216892.24148.1C1D83@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D21B277.F511BFFE@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:02:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Why, Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:

> AP says:
> This year marked the 100th anniversary of a hunting expedition by
> President Theodore Roosevelt in the Mississippi Delta. After three

Ah so.  I did know that "teddy bear" came from a hunting trip in
Mississippi, but I didn't know we had a state toy.
--
   -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 03:56:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11171
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 03:56:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4BE33@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:08:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12556346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 10:14:04 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f79.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.79]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62EE4918415 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:14:04 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 07:13:58 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 14:13:58 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 14:13:58.0783 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[B544D0F0:01C221D2]
Message-ID:  <F79esqctRbffoJpHq2X00003235@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:13:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
> > >Its own fat. Olive oil. Walnut oil. Sesame oil.
> >
> > All about the same number of calories, of course.
>
>It, whatever it is, isn't all about calories, is it?

I don't know what it is, but my total cholesterol/HDL ratio turns out to be
outstanding at 2.2. Olive oil rocks!

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 04:01:45 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA11187
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 04:01:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000E172F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:19:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12556610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 10:19:26 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f104.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.104]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62EJQ919122 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:19:26 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 07:19:21 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 14:19:20 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 14:19:21.0130 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[756710A0:01C221D3]
Message-ID:  <F104Bi9iUy9os7UUdUK000044bd@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:19:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
>Here's a real mind-boggler:  I once saw somebody rub butter over a
>steak.  (And yes, he was fat.)

That's common. And delicious.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 04:03:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA11191
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 04:03:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4BF38@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:16:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12556754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 10:21:37 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f92.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.92]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62ELb919441 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:21:37 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 07:21:31 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 14:21:31 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 14:21:31.0811 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C34B6730:01C221D3]
Message-ID:  <F92Z2hoVrpUVmk5nlBd0000445d@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:21:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie:
> > Are bread and pasta all that caloric?  I've never been a real student of
> > these matters, but I've always thought that they were not especially
> > fattening.

Since I'm paying attention to these things, I can say that even if I eat a
much smaller than I'm accustomed to portion of pasta, my weight goes up.

And I love and adore pasta, so I would never cut it out. Portion control.

Marie

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 04:19:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA11207
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 04:19:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4C1A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:32:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12557962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 10:37:38 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Ebc922059 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:37:38 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYM00139LYQ82@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 02 Jul 2002 09:37:38 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F92Z2hoVrpUVmk5nlBd0000445d@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D21BA5D.8050402@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:36:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

> Natalie:
>
>> > Are bread and pasta all that caloric?  I've never been a real
>> student of
>> > these matters, but I've always thought that they were not especially
>> > fattening.
>
>
> Since I'm paying attention to these things, I can say that even if I eat a
> much smaller than I'm accustomed to portion of pasta, my weight goes up.
>
> And I love and adore pasta, so I would never cut it out. Portion control.
>


A half cup of cooked spaghetti is probably, what, three
mouthfuls?  So a realistic portion is probably 500 calories
-- at least.

I prefer pasta and bread over meat.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 04:25:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA11219
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 04:25:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4C262@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:37:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12557625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 10:42:57 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62EWv921360 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:32:57 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g62EWsOI006861 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:32:54 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207021032080.17018-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:32:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020702133819.A31431@yoccoz.multinix.com>

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, steph wrote:

>= Right. That's why I did not include it in my list, even though I lived
>= there for a year.
>
>Then you are being a pain again.

For not including London ?!? London is an exception to all
generalizations, I suspect.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 04:26:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA11226
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 04:26:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4C298@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:39:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12557691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 10:44:19 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62EYJ921516 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:34:19 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g62EYIOI007621 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:34:18 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207021033350.17018-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:34:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2193DD.BDD4121C@maynor.net>

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> I much prefer butter. When I grill at home, I don't like to put the meat
>> on bare metal - so I use butter. Unsalted butter.
>
>If I were doing that, I'd spray the metal with Pam.

Yuck! Double yuck! Worse tasting and almost as many calories (contrary to
what the contianer says).

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 04:37:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA11244
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 04:37:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000E1E49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:55:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12559208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 10:55:15 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62EtF925277 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:55:15 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13032 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:54:45 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 2 Jul 02
          10:54:56 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 2 Jul 02 10:18:37 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D217DFA.20319.6FBE7F@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:18:35 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      easily amused
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21B277.F511BFFE@maynor.net>

  I'm on a Canadian Immigration discussion list. There is occasional
spam from people offering various services to the newly landed.  I
found this one particularly amusing.

BrP



You can get FREE services:
                    -Application for SIN Card;
                    -Application for Health Card;
                    -Prepare the test for the Driving License;
                    -Providing information of job searching;
                    -Register to learning English;
                    -Completion of various formalities and much more.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 04:42:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA11296
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 04:42:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4C50E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:54:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12559592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 10:59:51 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Exp926038 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:59:51 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust62.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.64]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003641175@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 10:59:50 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3b.28cf3c2d.2a529bc1@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D21BFB6.4A396F9B@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:59:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L Digest - 1 Jul 2002 - Special issue (#2002-1163)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

dorism212@AOL.COM wrote:
>
> In a message dated 7/1/2002 8:31:43 PM Central Daylight Time,
> LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU writes:
>
> > My grandmother spreads butter on her bread before making any sandwich.
> > She's French Canadian.
> >
> > Terry
> >
>
> So do I.  I have always felt a sandwich isn't a sandwich
> without a little butter.  But then several years ago a chef
> showed me how to make some great sandwiches for
> a party, and explained that you should completely
> cover the bread with a light coating of butter first so
> that the sandwich filling will not soak into the bread.

Then there is Danish smorrebrod--fancy finger sandwiches. Smorrebrod
means "smeared with butter." Those of you who have been to Denmark will
have seen these in the konditories. Because my grandmother was Danish,
we had those especially for Christmas Eve. They made up the entire
meal--huge variety of meats, fish, vegetables. Part of their specialness
is the artistry involved--they are very attractive in addition to being
tasty. Anyway, we made hundreds, and usually had enough left over after
Christmas Eve for lunch on Christmas Day and even after that sometimes.
The thing is that (refrigerated) they stayed in great shape because of
the butter base, with nothing seeping through.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 05:01:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11354
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 05:01:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4C882@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:13:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12561219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 11:18:49 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62FIY929653 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:18:34 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g62FLv431837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:21:57
          +0200
References: <20020702133819.A31431@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207021032080.17018-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020702172157.A31827@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:21:57 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207021032080.17018-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>; from
              dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU on Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 10:32:54AM -0400

On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 10:32:54AM -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
= On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, steph wrote:
=
= >= Right. That's why I did not include it in my list, even though I lived
= >= there for a year.
= >
= >Then you are being a pain again.
=
= For not including London ?!? London is an exception to all
= generalizations, I suspect.
=
= Bethany

For not including London, Paris, Moscow, Warsaw, Berlin, or
possibly Cincinnatti, Sarasota, Sacramento and Scranton.  All
cities in my book.

I think if you compare the set of all cities to the set of all
cities where you can get acupuncture weeknights at midnight, that
the subset will be far far less than 50 percent.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 05:46:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11412
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 05:46:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4D003@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:58:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12565184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 12:04:11 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f228.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.228]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62G4B906450 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:04:11 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 09:04:05 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 16:04:05 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 16:04:05.0746 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[17535D20:01C221E2]
Message-ID:  <F2285SpcatHxfOxqhLF000047cb@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:04:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
>A half cup of cooked spaghetti is probably, what, three
>mouthfuls?  So a realistic portion is probably 500 calories
>-- at least.
>
>I prefer pasta and bread over meat.

Last night *uc* cooked his dish of chicken and zucchini in a tomato sauce
with spinach fettucine. I probably had about a (overflowing) cup of pasta,
and LOTS of sauce and zucchini.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 05:56:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11438
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 05:56:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E35ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:13:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12565784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 12:13:45 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f188.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.188]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62GDj907817 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:13:45 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 09:13:39 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 16:13:39 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 16:13:39.0730 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[6D725F20:01C221E3]
Message-ID:  <F188D8FIFDAh5RDxb5C0000461a@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:13:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L Digest - 1 Jul 2002 - Special issue (#2002-1163)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: dorism212@AOL.COM
>So do I.  I have always felt a sandwich isn't a sandwich
>without a little butter.  But then several years ago a chef
>showed me how to make some great sandwiches for
>a party, and explained that you should completely
>cover the bread with a light coating of butter first so
>that the sandwich filling will not soak into the bread.

Aha!

I made some sandwiches for guests last weekend on two long baguettes -- I
hollowed out the bread a little, doused it with a red wine vinaigrette --
then piled with ham, turkey, salami, provolone, roasted red pepper, lettuce.
Then allowed it to soak into the bread for a couple of hours refrigerated.

I think it has something to do with the hoagie mentality. Soaking into the
bread is GOOD!  (as long as the bread can take it)

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 05:58:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11445
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 05:58:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4D19C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:10:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12565914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 12:16:00 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f42.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.42]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62GG0908043 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:16:00 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 09:15:54 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 16:15:54 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 16:15:54.0731 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[BDE9E3B0:01C221E3]
Message-ID:  <F42lbpH71yEXUIEAOeI000002cb@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:15:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
>I thought fat was interspersed throughout the meat.  I know that some
>big hunks of fat are obvious and can be removed, but I'm talking about
>little slithers of fat that are inseparable from the meat.

If you're lucky. Fat is where the flavor is.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:04:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11469
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 06:04:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4D250@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:16:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12566255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 12:22:17 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f225.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.225]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62GMG908929 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:22:16 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 09:22:11 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 16:22:11 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 16:22:11.0344 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[9E647900:01C221E4]
Message-ID:  <F225MWZF2crQ1LQGsAt000046b4@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:22:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
>"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
> > What else would you use to cook it?
>
>I broil steaks, never fry them.

They're not fried in butter, they are broiled or grilled after being dipped
in butter. In the case of Ruth's Chris, I do believe they are also dipped
after cooking.

Delish!

Rita, I too love that fat that surrounds a pork chop. Pork fat rules!

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:17:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11492
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 06:17:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4D39D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:29:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12566790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 12:35:11 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f154.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.154]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62GZA910403 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:35:10 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 09:35:05 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 16:35:05 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 16:35:05.0398 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[6BC3BD60:01C221E6]
Message-ID:  <F154qVNnB36lbU1PywZ000047a4@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:35:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>alyce cresap said
(re butter):
> > it, but if it is out for cooking, I often cut off an inch or so and let
> > it melt in my mouth.
>
>I knew there was a reason I liked you.:)

Now this I think is NASTY. But to each his own.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:22:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11509
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 06:22:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4D472@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:35:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12567124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 12:40:19 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62GeJ911015 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:40:19 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYM0028YRN7QW@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 02 Jul 2002 11:40:19 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F2285SpcatHxfOxqhLF000047cb@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D21D71E.3070905@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:38:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

>> From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
>> A half cup of cooked spaghetti is probably, what, three
>> mouthfuls?  So a realistic portion is probably 500 calories
>> -- at least.
>>
>> I prefer pasta and bread over meat.
>
>
> Last night *uc* cooked his dish of chicken and zucchini in a tomato sauce
> with spinach fettucine. I probably had about a (overflowing) cup of pasta,
> and LOTS of sauce and zucchini.


Mmmmmm.  This sounds pretty good.  Except for the chicken --
I don't like chicken with tomato sauce for some reason.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:27:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11524
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 06:27:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000E3D64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:44:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12567889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 12:44:44 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f103.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.103]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Gii912061 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:44:44 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 09:44:39 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 16:44:38 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 16:44:39.0016 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C1AAE680:01C221E7]
Message-ID:  <F103Y0pi8Zac4KPHMCI0000474f@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:44:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Saturday
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>>That must've been quite a >helping
>of DEAD BIRD you had with the pie, too. :D

One of my favorite things!

>Are you going to FRFF, Marie?

We're contemplating the Saturday. Sunday the 28th we're going to see Beth
Orton at Summerstage.  You?

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:30:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11535
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 06:29:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000E3DDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:47:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12568067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 12:47:38 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f104.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.104]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Glc912542 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:47:38 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 09:47:32 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 16:47:32 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 16:47:32.0834 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[29456C20:01C221E8]
Message-ID:  <F104jM1wrv0BFF53wYi000047f9@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:47:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
>Mmmmmm.  This sounds pretty good.  Except for the chicken --
>I don't like chicken with tomato sauce for some reason.

It's one of the best things he does. Tonight he's cooking again -- another
good one: sole oreganata. I think it's grey sole sprinkled with oregano,
brushed with a garlic/butter sauce, and topped with bread crumbs. Side of
broccoli.

Marie





_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:43:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11572
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 06:43:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4D7AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:55:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12568944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 13:00:59 -0400
Received: from scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g62H0x914122 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          13:00:59 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17PR1O-0001Ba-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 13:00:58 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEPPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>;
            <F228xYH7x0JY9nIvx7O00003555@hotmail.com>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEPPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <20020702071104.A30672@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <v03130304b946eb057e25@[198.144.202.197]>
            <20020702111117.A31043@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010409b9478b788171@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:56:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020702111117.A31043@yoccoz.multinix.com>

>Fruit in salad is a dutch thing.  Raisins turn up in the
>strangest places.

I like raisins in salad. My Mexican chicken salad (chicken meat,
sliced and sauteed with cumin and ginger, served hot on a bed of
mixed greens, raisins and lite bleu cheese dressing, with a flurry of
cheddar grated over the top) is one of the gang's favorite dishes.

Apples in salad are a good thing too.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:49:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11589
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 06:49:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4D8A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:01:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12569349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 13:06:57 -0400
Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.123]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g62H6v914769 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          13:06:57 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #1) id 17PR7A-0007bY-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02
          Jul 2002 13:06:56 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702020037.0F2D3864A@yellow.rahul.net>
            <a05010437b946c11817d5@[192.168.1.100]>
            <3D218E15.A91CD665@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a0501040ab9478c7bbe68@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:02:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D218E15.A91CD665@maynor.net>

>Janet Hardy wrote:
>
>>  >Its own fat. Olive oil. Walnut oil. Sesame oil.
>>
>>  All about the same number of calories, of course.
>
>It, whatever it is, isn't all about calories, is it?

Depends on what you mean by "it" (to paraphrase our former POTUS). If
"it" is weight loss, yeah, it's pretty much all about calories, at
least in terms of various fats and fat substitutes. (Someone who
wanted a steak and was concerned about calories would either broil it
or sautee it in PAM.)

If "it" is heart health, it would be better to cook the steak in a
nut or vegetable oil than in butter or animal fat.

The only time I cook a steak in fat is when I do my extra-fancy
filets, where I sear them in butter, then remove them from the pan
and add a mess of mushrooms, then add a healthy dollop or two of
brandy. Then I reduce the brandy, add the steaks back in to finish
them, add the mushrooms back in for just a moment or two to warm them
back through, and serve the whole thing. (Oh -- I add some black
pepper and salt in there somewhere too.)

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:50:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11597
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 06:50:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4D8DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:02:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12569435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 13:07:55 -0400
Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.123]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g62H7s914947 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          13:07:54 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #1) id 17PR85-0001Aw-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02
          Jul 2002 13:07:53 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <F84gX4VMWf7JS84PbED0000401d@hotmail.com>
            <20020702111935.B31043@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <OE32fbB1kOXXGQ3WrhJ000031d8@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a0501040bb9478d64f4f7@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:03:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: food discovery
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE32fbB1kOXXGQ3WrhJ000031d8@hotmail.com>

>  > Oy Vey!  Have you never made chopped liver?
>
>No, nor tasted it, either. I've seen it plenty of times on the cooking
>shows, but no personal experience.

Come to SF and I will take you to Max's -- best chopped liver I've
ever tasted except my mother's.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:53:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11603
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 06:53:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000E462E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:11:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12569653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 13:11:12 -0400
Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62HBC915427 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:11:12 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.19.4523278 (16213) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 13:11:03 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m15.webmail.aol.com [64.12.180.131]) by
          air-in01.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILININ11-0702131103;
          Tue, 02 Jul 2002 13:11:03 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <6B681A46.0CB3F0EF.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:07:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: BradleyDale Sighting...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Torkel Franzin <torkel@SICS.SE> wrote:

>
>  I don't believe you. You've killed Brad and had his stuffed remains
>mounted in your garden as the Kentucky Colonel Gnome, with the
>inscription:
>
>   Wir haben nichts, wir können nichts, wir verstehen nichts, wir sagen
>   nichts.
>
Crap.  The secret is out.  Yes, he's under the Japanese Maple, next to the newly transplanted Japanese Anemones....

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:01:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11624
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 07:01:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E48E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:19:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12569536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 13:19:19 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62H9J915162 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:09:19 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g62H9JOI029761 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:09:19 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207021307450.11078-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:09:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020702172157.A31827@yoccoz.multinix.com>

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, steph wrote:

>= For not including London ?!? London is an exception to all
>= generalizations, I suspect.
>
>For not including London, Paris, Moscow, Warsaw, Berlin, or
>possibly Cincinnatti, Sarasota, Sacramento and Scranton.  All
>cities in my book.

If I had lived in those cities, I would have known whether I could
include them, Since I have not, I could not.

>I think if you compare the set of all cities to the set of all
>cities where you can get acupuncture weeknights at midnight, that
>the subset will be far far less than 50 percent.

Could be. As I said, I was generalizing from MY experience.

So have you lived in all those cities?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:26:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11679
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 07:26:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4DD4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:39:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12572249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 13:44:18 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62HiI920981 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:44:18 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYM002AWULUQA@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 02 Jul 2002 12:44:18 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207021307450.11078-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D21E61D.7060106@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:42:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

        The acupuncturist office downstairs from me when I lived in
Cambridge did not keep midnight hours. They were open on
Saturday mornings, though.

Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, steph wrote:
>
>
>>= For not including London ?!? London is an exception to all
>>= generalizations, I suspect.
>>
>>For not including London, Paris, Moscow, Warsaw, Berlin, or
>>possibly Cincinnatti, Sarasota, Sacramento and Scranton.  All
>>cities in my book.
>>
>
> If I had lived in those cities, I would have known whether I could
> include them, Since I have not, I could not.
>
>
>>I think if you compare the set of all cities to the set of all
>>cities where you can get acupuncture weeknights at midnight, that
>>the subset will be far far less than 50 percent.
>>
>
> Could be. As I said, I was generalizing from MY experience.
>
> So have you lived in all those cities?
>
> Bethany
>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:30:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11694
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 07:30:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4DDFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:43:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12572761 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 13:48:36 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62HmS922006 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:48:28 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id KAA78446 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          10:48:27 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207021045580.67213-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:48:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F79esqctRbffoJpHq2X00003235@hotmail.com>

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Marie Ascher wrote:

> I don't know what it is, but my total cholesterol/HDL ratio turns out to be
> outstanding at 2.2. Olive oil rocks!
>
You have something else good going for you, besides the olive oi. Olive
oil is the only cooking oil in my kitchen, and I never use butter. And
though I have a low cholestrol, 120, I have a terrible ratio: 1:5. So now
I find myself in the strange position of trying to eat more fat, but the
"good" kind, nuts and fish.  I've also been told to get more exercise. I
don't know what the connection is between exercise and total cholesterol/
HDL ratio  my doctor says there is one.

Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:40:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11698
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 07:40:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4DEEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:52:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12573473 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 13:58:04 -0400
Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Hw2923676 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:58:02 -0400
Received: from dorism212@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.98.2841368f (3973) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          13:57:49 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  7bit
Message-ID:  <98.2841368f.2a53439d@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:57:49 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: dorism212@AOL.COM
Subject:      What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 7/2/2002 12:11:57 PM Central Daylight Time,
LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU writes:


> >alyce cresap said
> (re butter):
> > > it, but if it is out for cooking, I often cut off an inch or so and let
> > > it melt in my mouth.
>

Well, Alyce, I guess that proves you are
not <one of those people .. . .>

           - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:45:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11713
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 07:45:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4DF40@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:57:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12573725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:02:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62I2f924308 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:02:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5FB7E7D9C; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 11:01:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702180157.5FB7E7D9C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:01:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: food discovery
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE32fbB1kOXXGQ3WrhJ000031d8@hotmail.com> from Anne H Toal at
              "Jul 2, 2002  6:41:15 am"

Anne H Toal said:
> > Oy Vey!  Have you never made chopped liver?
>
> No, nor tasted it, either. I've seen it plenty of times on the cooking
> shows, but no personal experience.

Wow. This surprises me as much as Alyce's having never eaten a bagel.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:49:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11717
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 07:49:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4DFB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:01:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12574110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:06:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62I6q925113 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:06:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CEA5E7DF1; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 11:06:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702180651.CEA5E7DF1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:06:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21A8B1.3000304@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 2,
              2002  8:20:49 am"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Rita Chapman said:
> >
> >>        My husband, Jack Sprat, can't stand butter, chicken skin, or
> >>the fat on meat.
> >>
> >
> > Do you eat salmon skin?
> >
>
>
>         No.  I don't eat salmon.

Why?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:51:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11724
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 07:51:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4DFD8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:03:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12574214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:08:47 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62I8k925489 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:08:47 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYM002H0VQMPJ@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 02 Jul 2002 13:08:46 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F104jM1wrv0BFF53wYi000047f9@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D21EBD9.7050306@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:07:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

>> From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
>> Mmmmmm.  This sounds pretty good.  Except for the chicken --
>> I don't like chicken with tomato sauce for some reason.
>
>
> It's one of the best things he does. Tonight he's cooking again -- another
> good one: sole oreganata. I think it's grey sole sprinkled with oregano,
> brushed with a garlic/butter sauce, and topped with bread crumbs. Side of
> broccoli.


Have you lost any weight, yet?


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:52:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11728
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 07:52:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4DFFC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:04:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12574314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:09:42 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62I9g925694 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:09:42 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000051;
          2 Jul 02 14:09:24 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 2 Jul 02
          14:09:12 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000050; 2 Jul 02 14:09:05 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D218E15.A91CD665@maynor.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D21B401.19971.8181CFCB@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:09:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a0501040ab9478c7bbe68@[192.168.1.100]>

On Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 10:02, Janet Hardy wrote:

> Depends on what you mean by "it" (to paraphrase our former POTUS). If
> "it" is weight loss, yeah, it's pretty much all about calories, at
> least in terms of various fats and fat substitutes. (Someone who
> wanted a steak and was concerned about calories would either broil it
> or sautee it in PAM.)
>
> If "it" is heart health, it would be better to cook the steak in a nut
> or vegetable oil than in butter or animal fat.

Though the proportion of saturated fat in things like lard and beef
fat is much overestimated by many people. Lard is mostly unsaturated,
and beef fat is close to half unsaturated. Butter is something like
65% saturated, and then there are the tropical oils in a whole
category of their own that no animal fat even approaches.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:52:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11732
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 07:52:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000E51CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:09:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12574340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:09:58 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62I9v925748 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:09:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E37627E39; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 11:09:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702180956.E37627E39@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:09:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F2285SpcatHxfOxqhLF000047cb@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 2, 2002 12: 4: 5 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> Last night *uc* cooked his dish of chicken and zucchini in a tomato sauce
> with spinach fettucine. I probably had about a (overflowing) cup of pasta,
> and LOTS of sauce and zucchini.

Can you post the recipe?

I'm beginning to think you should post a weekly menu...

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:57:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11748
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 07:57:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4E058@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:09:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12574651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:14:57 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62IEv926667 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:14:57 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust54.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.56]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004953239@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:14:54 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702180157.5FB7E7D9C@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D21ED59.E498BA5F@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:13:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: food discovery
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> Wow. This surprises me as much as Alyce's having never eaten a bagel.

I've had plenty of great chicken liver, though. Used to do PR for a
Jewish restaurant in Chicago, and part of my pay was eating there
whenever I wanted to, which was fairly often, given my love for
preparing food. You have to squeeze lemon juice over it for the full
effect of wonderfulness.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:57:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11752
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 07:57:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4E05E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:10:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12574668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:15:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62IFX926790 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:15:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DC8EA7EB6; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 11:15:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702181532.DC8EA7EB6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:15:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21E61D.7060106@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 2,
              2002 12:42:53 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
>         The acupuncturist office downstairs from me when I lived in
> Cambridge did not keep midnight hours. They were open on
> Saturday mornings, though.

I think it would be tough to find an acupuncturist who regularly
stayed open till midnight. In *any* city.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:58:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11756
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 07:58:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4E07B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:10:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12574748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:16:11 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62IGB926899 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:16:11 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 749B98667; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 11:16:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702181608.749B98667@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:16:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207021045580.67213-100000@idiom.com> from Sharon
              Ziperovich at "Jul 2, 2002 10:48:27 am"

Sharon Ziperovich said:
> On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> > I don't know what it is, but my total cholesterol/HDL ratio turns out to be
> > outstanding at 2.2. Olive oil rocks!
> >
> You have something else good going for you, besides the olive oi. Olive
> oil is the only cooking oil in my kitchen, and I never use butter. And
> though I have a low cholestrol, 120, I have a terrible ratio: 1:5. So now
> I find myself in the strange position of trying to eat more fat, but the
> "good" kind, nuts and fish.  I've also been told to get more exercise. I
> don't know what the connection is between exercise and total cholesterol/
> HDL ratio  my doctor says there is one.

It can raise HDL.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:59:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11764
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 07:59:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4E082@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:11:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12574770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:17:04 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62IGs926987 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:16:54 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust54.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.56]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004953283@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:16:54 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702181532.DC8EA7EB6@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D21EDD2.990F7794@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:15:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> I think it would be tough to find an acupuncturist who regularly
> stayed open till midnight. In *any* city.
>
Please report on your car, insurance, etc.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:59:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11768
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 07:59:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000E53E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:17:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12574818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:17:29 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62IHN927084 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:17:23 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2FD958678; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 11:17:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702181722.2FD958678@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:17:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21B401.19971.8181CFCB@localhost> from Tony Harminc at "Jul 2,
              2002  2: 9: 5 pm"

Tony Harminc said:
> Though the proportion of saturated fat in things like lard and beef
> fat is much overestimated by many people. Lard is mostly unsaturated,
> and beef fat is close to half unsaturated. Butter is something like
> 65% saturated, and then there are the tropical oils in a whole
> category of their own that no animal fat even approaches.

I buy 'light' coconut milk for that reason. Sigh.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:00:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11778
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:00:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E5472@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:18:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12574954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:18:16 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f118.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.118]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62IIG927449 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:18:16 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 11:18:10 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 18:18:10 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 18:18:10.0517 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[D2620050:01C221F4]
Message-ID:  <F118IjpV4unQVK110xQ0000498e@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:18:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
>You have something else good going for you, besides the olive oi. Olive
>oil is the only cooking oil in my kitchen, and I never use butter. And
>though I have a low cholestrol, 120, I have a terrible ratio: 1:5. So now
>I find myself in the strange position of trying to eat more fat, but the
>"good" kind, nuts and fish

I do take a fish oil supplement every day FWIW. You might want to consider
that. It's possible that I'm cholesterolly gifted like Janet --my lipid
panel shows 168 for the total but the HDL is "abnormal" at 76. My
triglycerides are also low at 41. I tend to doubt it's a genetic gift. My
parents both have dangerously high cholesterol of the worst kind. Of course
they could both be heterozygous.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:02:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11786
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:02:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4E0DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:14:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12575092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:19:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62IJx927803 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:19:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 81A128663; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 11:19:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702181958.81A128663@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:19:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020702172157.A31827@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul 2,
              2002  5:21:57 pm"

steph said:
> I think if you compare the set of all cities to the set of all
> cities where you can get acupuncture weeknights at midnight, that
> the subset will be far far less than 50 percent.

More like .03.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:02:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11790
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:02:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000E5640@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:20:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12575102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:20:02 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f216.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.216]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62IK1927852 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:20:01 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 11:19:56 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 18:19:55 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 18:19:56.0307 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[11704630:01C221F5]
Message-ID:  <F2163SbmousuEAdXekb000049cf@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:19:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>Rita Chapman said:
> >         The acupuncturist office downstairs from me when I lived in
> > Cambridge did not keep midnight hours. They were open on
> > Saturday mornings, though.
>
>I think it would be tough to find an acupuncturist who regularly
>stayed open till midnight. In *any* city.

I'm sure you could probably find one in NYC, but I'd think that would be the
exception. And you might have to go to some Chinatown back alley, but...

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:02:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11794
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:02:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E5644@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:20:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12575108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:20:04 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f220.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.220]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62IK4927862 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:20:04 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 11:19:58 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 02
          Jul 2002 18:19:56 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 18:19:58.0575 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[12CA57F0:01C221F5]
Message-ID:  <F220LDiKBsuZ2K4xDh90000593f@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:19:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>in butter. In the case of Ruth's Chris, I do believe they are also dipped
>after cooking.

They may well be. Additionally, they are served with a dollop of butter
melting on top.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:04:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11806
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:04:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000E569A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:21:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12575220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:21:49 -0400
Received: from fido.kiva.net (fido.kiva.net [216.9.137.65]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g62ILn928088 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:21:49 -0400
Received: (qmail 1040 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2002 18:21:48 -0000
Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by fido.kiva.net with SMTP; 2
          Jul 2002 18:21:48 -0000
Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id 788C334F11; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 13:21:48 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix)
          with ESMTP id 76BF62D643 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,  2 Jul
          2002 13:21:48 -0500 (EST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207021318260.19868-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:21:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tom Lee <flint@KIVA.NET>
Subject:      Re: easily amused
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D217DFA.20319.6FBE7F@localhost>

        I would like to apply for my SIN card so that I may SIN legally.
It's sad that so many people regularly SIN without a current SIN card.

--
Take care,
Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
I would like to register to learning English, please

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

>   I'm on a Canadian Immigration discussion list. There is occasional
> spam from people offering various services to the newly landed.  I
> found this one particularly amusing.
>
> BrP
>
>
>
> You can get FREE services:
>                     -Application for SIN Card;
>                     -Application for Health Card;
>                     -Prepare the test for the Driving License;
>                     -Providing information of job searching;
>                     -Register to learning English;
>                     -Completion of various formalities and much more.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:07:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11829
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:07:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E5719@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:25:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12575480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:25:27 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f228.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.228]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62IPP928870 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:25:25 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 11:25:19 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 18:25:19 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 18:25:19.0722 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[D2357CA0:01C221F5]
Message-ID:  <F22806SJOIE0vPzF0ak00004ad0@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:25:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
>Have you lost any weight, yet?

Yeah. About five pounds. I've not been very good, but I'm drinking lots of
water, and eating only a yogurt and fruit for lunch. (I used to pack huge
portions of leftovers). During the week, I'm cutting down on starches and
portion size at dinner. I'm a little more undisciplined on the weekends. I
SUCK at self-denial. But in general I'm making some conscious decisions when
my hand starts creeping toward the bread basket.

I've also been swimming a half mile several times a week again, which feels
GREAT.

Five more would be nice.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:17:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11948
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:17:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E5C6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:35:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12575477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:35:24 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62IPM928863 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:25:22 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g62IPLOI025391 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:25:21 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207021423530.12401-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:25:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      the rules
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I have to keep learning the rules here. <sigh> Now I know that no
exaggeration is ever permitted, particularly not to make a point about
living in the relativley non-urbanized south.

Mea culpa.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:19:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11965
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:19:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E5CA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:37:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12576274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:37:07 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Ib7930992 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:37:07 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13847 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:36:56 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 2 Jul 02
          14:37:02 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 2 Jul 02 14:23:47 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D217DFA.20319.6FBE7F@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D21B768.1050.8675CB@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:23:37 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: easily amused
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207021318260.19868-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>

and then one must for the sin tax register.

BrP


>         I would like to apply for my SIN card so that I may SIN legally.
> It's sad that so many people regularly SIN without a current SIN card.
>
> --
> Take care,
> Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
> I would like to register to learning English, please
>
> On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:
>
> >   I'm on a Canadian Immigration discussion list. There is occasional
> > spam from people offering various services to the newly landed.  I
> > found this one particularly amusing.
> >
> > BrP
> >
> >
> >
> > You can get FREE services:
> >                     -Application for SIN Card;
> >                     -Application for Health Card;
> >                     -Prepare the test for the Driving License;
> >                     -Providing information of job searching;
> >                     -Register to learning English;
> >                     -Completion of various formalities and much more.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:27:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12024
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:27:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4E317@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:39:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12576791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:45:15 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62IjF932541 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:45:15 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g62IjF7Y326130 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          14:45:15 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000401c221f8$9aecc750$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:45:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L Digest - 1 Jul 2002 - Special issue (#2002-1163)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F188D8FIFDAh5RDxb5C0000461a@hotmail.com>

> Aha!
>
> I made some sandwiches for guests last weekend on two long
> baguettes -- I
> hollowed out the bread a little, doused it with a red wine
> vinaigrette --
> then piled with ham, turkey, salami, provolone, roasted red
> pepper, lettuce.
> Then allowed it to soak into the bread for a couple of hours
> refrigerated.
>
> I think it has something to do with the hoagie mentality.
> Soaking into the
> bread is GOOD!  (as long as the bread can take it)
>
Hoagies rule! Although, bread made by Amorosos is the ticket.
http://www.amorosobaking.com/


Alec

------------
Alec D. Plotkin
plotkina@isc.upenn.edu

"Peace cannot be kept by force.  It can only be achieved by
understanding" - Albert Einstein

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:28:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12031
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:28:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000E6045@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:46:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12576813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:45:59 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Ijw932632 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:45:59 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g62Ijwj27180
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:45:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207021423530.12401-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D21F665.F7E579B4@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:52:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the rules
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Hang in there.  You're learning.

Betty

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> I have to keep learning the rules here. <sigh> Now I know that no
> exaggeration is ever permitted, particularly not to make a point about
> living in the relativley non-urbanized south.
>
> Mea culpa.
>
> Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:31:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12040
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:31:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E60E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:49:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12577021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:49:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62InT900877 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:49:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8B08E866A; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 11:49:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702184928.8B08E866A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:49:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the rules
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207021423530.12401-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 2, 2002  2:25:21 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> I have to keep learning the rules here. <sigh> Now I know that no
> exaggeration is ever permitted, particularly not to make a point about
> living in the relativley non-urbanized south.
>
> Mea culpa.

The fact that you still think there are rules here is what marks you
as in need of learning.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:32:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12044
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:32:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4E38A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:44:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12577046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:50:02 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Io1901006 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:50:01 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id VAA31114 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:50:00
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA31031 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 21:49:58 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D21F5CD.A4A9AAFD@akad.ee>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:49:49 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Hi,

I'd lie if I said I've read every word you've written. Been busy with
solving my dilemma of the trip to Scotland. Solved it positively and
started to work hard (not hardly!)  instead of enjoying a vacation now.

At the moment I'm trying to get to know more about Scotland. I was glad
to find a site with Scottish pronunciation. You may see and listen:

www.bartleby.com/people/Burns-Ro.html

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:35:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12048
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:35:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4E3C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:47:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12577142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:53:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Ir2901560 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:53:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 36BB4866A; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 11:53:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702185301.36BB4866A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:53:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21EDD2.990F7794@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 2,
              2002  2:15:46 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I think it would be tough to find an acupuncturist who regularly
> > stayed open till midnight. In *any* city.
> >
> Please report on your car, insurance, etc.

My car is the same as it was last night. I am waiting for the guy who
hit me to phone me back.

In the meantime, my backyard is flooding! We've had five inches of
rain today, and the parts of my yard that are lower than others
(including my patio) have standing water.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:38:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12055
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:38:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000E6191@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:56:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12577293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:56:02 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g62Iu2902026 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:56:02
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g62Iu1A120356 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          14:56:01 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAECMFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:55:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D218E82.80FA95CA@maynor.net>

> S Hess wrote:
>
> > I've been eating tons of meat, have not shied away from butter
> and have lost
> > a significant amount of weight. Weight I never lost when my
> diet was driven
> > more my bread, pasta, etc. I'll just stick with what's working
> for me. I had
>
> I thought you said you'd also quit eating things like desserts.
>
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

True...and a lot of those desserts were very bready. Sweet, but bready. Oh,
I still eat just about everything. I just don't eat them every day.  I keep
my house free of most stuff I am trying to avoid.

This weekend will be hard since I won't be alone and I will have lots of
food around that I wouldn't normally eat. My MOFW has a gigantic appetite
(though a relatively healthy one) and I guess he can afford to since he's a
rabid mountain biker.

Sch.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:40:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12067
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:40:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4E488@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:53:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12577504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 14:58:30 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g62IwU902529 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:58:30
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g62IwTA412324 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          14:58:29 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEECMFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:57:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D218F84.6555643E@maynor.net>

> Janet Hardy wrote:
>
> > Unless you use sweet butter, there's a fair amount of salt in that
> > too. And most people will put salt to taste on the potatoes anyway.
>
> The butter I buy says "unsalted" on the package.  Does it still contain
> salt?  I've never tried to avoid salt.  I just prefer unsalted things to
> salted things -- like peanuts.  I almost gagged when eating some roasted
> peanuts not long ago because they were the salted kind and I'd forgotten
> how salty salted peanuts are.  I don't put salt on potatoes, btw.  I do
> put salt on tomatoes (if eating them straight -- I don't put it on them
> if they're in something like a salad).  About the only other thing I put
> salt on is watermelon.
> >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

When I lived in LA, I noticed a lot of the hispanics put chili powder on
their fruit. I bet it tastes great. I thought I'd have some when I was in
Mazatlan but I didn't run into any fruit vendors...except for one whose
fruit had been out in the sun all day (not too appealing). Next year, it
looks like a group of us are going to try somewhere new...Oaxaca (sp?) or
Cabo San Lucas...maybe I'll find the fruit/chili combo there.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:44:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12129
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:44:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4E543@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:56:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12577944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:01:53 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62J1q903287 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:01:52 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id WAA00417 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:01:51
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA00334 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 22:01:50 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D21F894.B8FB5878@akad.ee>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:01:40 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      work'n'whistle
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Evelyn:

>I'll be working.

But it is good that you're back, Evelyn.

>Annegret was going to take a three-week vacation to England,
>leaving me the only person in the department.

Huh? Well, this seems to have both good and bad sides for you, doesn't
it?

You work so hard already. So maybe you do not find much reason to
whistle merrily. Unfortunately.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:55:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12197
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:55:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4E6D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:07:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12578746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:12:56 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f86.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.86]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62JCt905652 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:12:55 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 12:12:50 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 19:12:49 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 19:12:50.0324 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[754CD540:01C221FC]
Message-ID:  <F86euGv8XQViddWcnnd00004a8e@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:12:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L Digest - 1 Jul 2002 - Special issue (#2002-1163)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
>Hoagies rule! Although, bread made by Amorosos is the ticket.
>http://www.amorosobaking.com/

I am realizing just now that I forgot to put oregano on the sandwiches!

Amoroso's bread is good, especially for cheesesteaks, because it's so
<yielding>. But for a deli meat sandwich I have to admit, I favor bread that
comes from the Bronx. Sorry, Alec, they've gone and made a New Yorker of me.
I deliver bread by the carful when I visit my family and friends in Philly.
They all freeze it.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:58:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12217
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:58:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4E766@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:10:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12579081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:16:10 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62JG9906566 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:16:09 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id WAA02600 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:16:08
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA02517 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 22:16:07 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D21F5CD.A4A9AAFD@akad.ee>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D21FBED.EAD17818@akad.ee>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:15:57 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Oh, yes, I also wanted to thank Natalie and Espen for encouraging words

>Yes!  Do it!

>> As an explanation: travelling with a group is always cheaper than alone.

>This I would disagree with, but it depends on the individual and the
>group and the situation.

You're probably right. If  much homework is done as to places to stay
overnight and all prices of bus or train or whatever tickets it may be
cheaper. At the moment I'm happy to go with the group.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:59:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12221
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 08:59:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000E63CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:16:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12579095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:16:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62JGh906637 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:16:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 18B1D86A9; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 12:16:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702191643.18B1D86A9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:16:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21FBED.EAD17818@akad.ee> from Kristin Sarv at "Jul 2,
              2002 10:15:57 pm"

Kristin Sarv said:
> cheaper. At the moment I'm happy to go with the group.

So are you going?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:03:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12231
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:03:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4E801@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:15:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12579322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:20:40 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f214.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.214]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62JKe907353 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:20:40 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 12:20:34 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 19:20:34 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 19:20:34.0916 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[8A37F240:01C221FD]
Message-ID:  <F214WcB2KWFYobPJLTq00004ab1@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:20:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Did you all read that the guy who had "under god" declared unconstitutional
also want to remove all gender indicators
from the language? He wants to replace he/she with "re", him/her with "erm",
and his/hers with "rees".

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:04:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12238
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:04:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E6452@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:21:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12579371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:21:55 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62JLs907570 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:21:54 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id WAA03115 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:21:53
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA03032 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 22:21:52 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702191643.18B1D86A9@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D21FD46.800A9B96@akad.ee>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:21:42 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> So are you going?

Yes, I'll leave on July 23 and be back on Aug. 3. Tallinn -- Rostock (by
ship), a day in Amsterdam... I'll send the itinerary on another day, it
is not with me just now.

> solving my dilemma of the trip to Scotland. Solved it positively and

, as I said

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:05:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12242
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:05:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4E83B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:17:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12579406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:22:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62JMs907766 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:22:54 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9A58386A9; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 12:22:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702192253.9A58386A9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:22:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21FD46.800A9B96@akad.ee> from Kristin Sarv at "Jul 2,
              2002 10:21:42 pm"

Kristin Sarv said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > So are you going?
>
> Yes, I'll leave on July 23 and be back on Aug. 3. Tallinn -- Rostock (by
> ship), a day in Amsterdam... I'll send the itinerary on another day, it
> is not with me just now.

Maybe you can hook up with Steph.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:05:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12246
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:05:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4E83E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:17:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12579417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:23:12 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62JNC907830 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:23:12 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g62JNB7Z438923 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          15:23:12 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000c01c221fd$e82693c0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:23:12 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L Digest - 1 Jul 2002 - Special issue (#2002-1163)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F86euGv8XQViddWcnnd00004a8e@hotmail.com>

>
> I am realizing just now that I forgot to put oregano on the
> sandwiches!
>
> Amoroso's bread is good, especially for cheesesteaks, because it's so
> <yielding>. But for a deli meat sandwich I have to admit, I
> favor bread that comes from the Bronx. Sorry, Alec, they've gone and
made a
> New Yorker of me. I deliver bread by the carful when I visit my family
and
> friends in Philly. They all freeze it.
>

I will light a candle at a Philly landmark. I am deeply shocked and
upset:)

Alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:07:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12250
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:07:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4E8B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:19:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12579772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:24:47 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62JOl908614 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:24:47 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g62JOk7Y470693 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          15:24:47 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000d01c221fe$20a529a0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:24:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020702192253.9A58386A9@yellow.rahul.net>

>
> Maybe you can hook up with Steph.
>
> Karen
>

If she is not Belgium or something.


alec


------------
Alec D. Plotkin
plotkina@isc.upenn.edu

"Peace cannot be kept by force.  It can only be achieved by
understanding" - Albert Einstein

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:10:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12254
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:10:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4EAD1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:22:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12580884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:28:06 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62JS5910883 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:28:05 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id WAA04424 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:28:04
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA04341 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 22:28:03 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702192253.9A58386A9@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D21FEB8.8696324F@akad.ee>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:27:52 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Maybe you can hook up with Steph.

I was wondering, or trying to remember in which town she lived. Amsterdam?

Alec:

>If she is not Belgium or something.

???

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:11:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12261
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:11:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4EB09@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:24:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12580972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:29:31 -0400
Received: from avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.50]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g62JTV911175 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          15:29:31 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17PTL3-0006L1-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 15:29:30 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <F214WcB2KWFYobPJLTq00004ab1@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a0501040fb947ae3aac26@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:25:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F214WcB2KWFYobPJLTq00004ab1@hotmail.com>

>Did you all read that the guy who had "under god" declared unconstitutional
>also want to remove all gender indicators
>from the language? He wants to replace he/she with "re", him/her with "erm",
>and his/hers with "rees".

It's pretty much the norm in a lot of alt-sex newsgroups, chatrooms,
etc., to use "zie," "zir" and "zirs."

Personally, I think it inevitable that "they" and "theirs" will
become acceptable gender-free pronouns. I can't quite bring myself to
use them in my own writing, but if a Greenery manuscript comes in
using them, I leave it alone.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:14:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12274
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:14:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4EB75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:26:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12581118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:31:35 -0400
Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.123]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g62JVY911596 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          15:31:34 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #1) id 17PTN7-0000Nh-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02
          Jul 2002 15:31:33 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702192253.9A58386A9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D21FEB8.8696324F@akad.ee>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010410b947aeeed673@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:27:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      speaking of travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21FEB8.8696324F@akad.ee>

Looks like I'm going to be in NY from 7/5-7/9. I've got a few
speaking commitments, but am pretty much at loose ends. Anybody up
for a meal?

Also -- what's the best way to get from JFK into Manhattan?

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:14:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12278
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:14:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4EB82@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:26:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12581149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:31:51 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62JVp911678 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:31:51 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g62JVo7Y447087 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          15:31:51 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000e01c221ff$1d5e6da0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:31:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21FEB8.8696324F@akad.ee>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kristin Sarv
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:28 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
>
>
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Maybe you can hook up with Steph.
>
> I was wondering, or trying to remember in which town she
> lived. Amsterdam?
>
> Alec:
>
> >If she is not Belgium or something.
>
> ???
>
> Kristin
>

She lives in Amsterdam. She travels sometimes to see people in Belgium.

Alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:15:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12287
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:15:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E65C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:32:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12581239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:32:56 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g62JWu911928 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:32:56
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g62JWtA344060 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          15:32:56 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEDAFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:32:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2192A8.E8310892@maynor.net>

> Bookrat wrote:
>
> > If he is your dad's first cousin, then he is your first cousin
> once removed.
> >
> > Really, I fail to understand why so many people have such a
> hard time with
> > this nomenclature.  It's so <logical>.
>
> I've wondered about that also.  It's amazing to me how many people think
> that their first cousins once removed are second cousins.  I'm not sure
> what they'd call their second cousins in that case.
>
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Refresh me: what are "second cousins"?

Andrasay

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:16:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12291
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:16:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E65E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:34:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12581373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:34:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62JYU912221 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:34:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 34C007E6C; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 12:34:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020702193429.34C007E6C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:34:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21FEB8.8696324F@akad.ee> from Kristin Sarv at "Jul 2,
              2002 10:27:52 pm"

Kristin Sarv said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Maybe you can hook up with Steph.
>
> I was wondering, or trying to remember in which town she lived. Amsterdam?

I don't remember either,  but I think so.

> Alec:
>
> >If she is not Belgium or something.
>
> ???

in Belgium or something.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:19:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12295
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:19:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4EC6E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:31:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12581654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:36:49 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Jam912926 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:36:48 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id WAA06035 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:36:47
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA05952 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 22:36:46 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000e01c221ff$1d5e6da0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2200C4.B17A0E85@akad.ee>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:36:36 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:

> She lives in Amsterdam. She travels sometimes to see people in Belgium.

Oh, thanks. Good that some people have better memory than me.

Kr.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:21:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12302
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:21:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000E661C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:38:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12581781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:38:49 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Jcn913342 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:38:49 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g62Jcn7Y483291 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          15:38:49 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000f01c22200$16aa5040$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:38:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a05010410b947aeeed673@[192.168.1.100]>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Janet Hardy
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:28 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: speaking of travel
>
>
> Looks like I'm going to be in NY from 7/5-7/9. I've got a few
> speaking commitments, but am pretty much at loose ends. Anybody up
> for a meal?
>
> Also -- what's the best way to get from JFK into Manhattan?
>
> Janet
>

rec.travel.air will answer your JFK to Manhattan questions. From JFK's
website

The New York Airport Service Express Bus provides transportation to
destinations throughout New York including Grand Central Terminal, the
Port Authority Bus Terminal, Penn Station and numerous Midtown hotels.

alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:27:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12311
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:27:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4EDCE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:40:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12582345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:45:30 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g62JjU914994 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:45:30
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g62JjTA96136 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          15:45:29 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEDCFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:44:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a05010409b9478b788171@[192.168.1.100]>

> >Fruit in salad is a dutch thing.  Raisins turn up in the
> >strangest places.
>
> I like raisins in salad. My Mexican chicken salad (chicken meat,
> sliced and sauteed with cumin and ginger, served hot on a bed of
> mixed greens, raisins and lite bleu cheese dressing, with a flurry of
> cheddar grated over the top) is one of the gang's favorite dishes.
>
> Apples in salad are a good thing too.
>
> Janet

I'm with you on this. I adore raisins and once a friend served me a soup
he'd thrown raisins in....it was fantastic. They'd plumped up and added just
a hint of sweetness to a chicken vegetable soup. An excellent addition.

Often in the morning I have cottage cheese, 1/2 apple (diced), a few walnuts
and a sprinkling of raisins. Yummy.

And I always add them in my curried chicken salad.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:29:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12318
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:29:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000E66A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:46:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12582398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:46:42 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Jkg915201 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:46:42 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g62JkbM14390 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:46:37 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207021442590.2125-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:46:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: the rules
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207021423530.12401-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> I have to keep learning the rules here. <sigh> Now I know that no
> exaggeration is ever permitted, particularly not to make a point about
> living in the relativley non-urbanized south.
>
> Mea culpa.

You sound bitter!

If you don't want to be criticized, don't post.  That's the only way.
No point is too picky for the words-l kommunity!

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:30:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12327
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:30:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4EE68@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:43:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12582477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:48:25 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62JmP915485 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:48:25 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27149 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:48:22 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 2 Jul 02
          15:48:23 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 2 Jul 02 15:32:27 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <F214WcB2KWFYobPJLTq00004ab1@hotmail.com>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D21C786.30389.C56B9D@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:32:23 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a0501040fb947ae3aac26@[192.168.1.100]>

aha

http://www.aetherlumina.com/gnp/listing.html

BrP


>
> It's pretty much the norm in a lot of alt-sex newsgroups, chatrooms,
> etc., to use "zie," "zir" and "zirs."
>
> Personally, I think it inevitable that "they" and "theirs" will
> become acceptable gender-free pronouns. I can't quite bring myself to
> use them in my own writing, but if a Greenery manuscript comes in
> using them, I leave it alone.
>
> Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:32:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12331
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:32:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4EE9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:44:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12582545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:50:15 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g62JoF915816 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:50:15
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g62JoEA14132 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          15:50:14 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEDCFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:49:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: food discovery
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a0501040bb9478d64f4f7@[192.168.1.100]>

> >  > Oy Vey!  Have you never made chopped liver?
> >
> >No, nor tasted it, either. I've seen it plenty of times on the cooking
> >shows, but no personal experience.
>
> Come to SF and I will take you to Max's -- best chopped liver I've
> ever tasted except my mother's.
>
> Janet

Don't go without me. I adore Max's. Just got a postcard with the lineup for
City Arts & Lectures: Sarah Vowell, Joan Didion, Anthony Bourdain, Ann
Patchett, Jill Ker Conway & Anne Lamott (also Alice Walker and Dave Barry).
I hope to see Vowell and Bourdain. And I'll swing by Max's for dindin on my
way to the events.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:34:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12335
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 09:34:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E66EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:52:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12582712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 15:52:22 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62JqM916217 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:52:22 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27624 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:52:15 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 2 Jul 02
          15:52:20 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 2 Jul 02 15:28:04 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g62JqM916218
Message-ID:  <3D21C67D.13872.C1608D@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:27:58 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F214WcB2KWFYobPJLTq00004ab1@hotmail.com>

I think gender neutral but not neuter pronouns are a great idea. I
wonder how many attempts have been made to do that (research
anyone?).  As for "removing all gender indicators from the
language" that's a little like trying to sweep all the sand from the
beach.
 When my kids were little they started using "ba" when they didn't
know the gender (of a hamster in this case).  My daughter is now
working with a lot of ts and tg kids and we often talk about bringing
back "ba."

BrP






> Did you all read that the guy who had "under god" declared unconstitutional
> also want to remove all gender indicators
> from the language? He wants to replace he/she with "re", him/her with "erm",
> and his/hers with "rees".
>
> Marie
>    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:00:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12360
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 10:00:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4F2B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:13:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12584336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 16:18:26 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g62KIQI21930 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:18:26
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g62KIOA357802 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          16:18:26 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEDEFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:17:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207021045580.67213-100000@idiom.com>

 What's the right ratio? I never heard of this ratio business...I have my
numbers...I just need to know how to use them.

Sch.

> On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> > I don't know what it is, but my total cholesterol/HDL ratio
> turns out to be
> > outstanding at 2.2. Olive oil rocks!
> >
> You have something else good going for you, besides the olive oi. Olive
> oil is the only cooking oil in my kitchen, and I never use butter. And
> though I have a low cholestrol, 120, I have a terrible ratio: 1:5. So now
> I find myself in the strange position of trying to eat more fat, but the
> "good" kind, nuts and fish.  I've also been told to get more exercise. I
> don't know what the connection is between exercise and total cholesterol/
> HDL ratio  my doctor says there is one.
>
> Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:03:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12364
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 10:03:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4F317@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:15:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12584553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 16:20:53 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g62KKrI22684 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:20:53
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g62KKrA445638 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          16:20:53 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEDFFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:19:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F118IjpV4unQVK110xQ0000498e@hotmail.com>

> I do take a fish oil supplement every day FWIW. You might want to consider
> that. It's possible that I'm cholesterolly gifted like Janet --my lipid
> panel shows 168 for the total but the HDL is "abnormal" at 76. My
> triglycerides are also low at 41. I tend to doubt it's a genetic gift. My
> parents both have dangerously high cholesterol of the worst kind.
> Of course
> they could both be heterozygous.
>
> Marie

I take an Omega 3 every day, too. I notice midmorning I have a small burp
and it's distinctly slightly fishy. Ick. The things  we suffer through in
pursuing good health.

Sch.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:11:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12373
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 10:11:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4F46B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:23:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12585062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 16:28:41 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62KSeI24377 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:28:40 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g62KW6U32575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:32:06
          +0200
References: <20020702192253.9A58386A9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D21FEB8.8696324F@akad.ee> <a05010410b947aeeed673@[192.168.1.100]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020702223206.A32548@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:32:06 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a05010410b947aeeed673@[192.168.1.100]>; from
              verdie@EARTHLINK.NET on Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 12:27:31PM -0700

=
= Also -- what's the best way to get from JFK into Manhattan?
=
= Janet

Limo.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:14:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12380
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 10:14:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4F4B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:27:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12584659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 16:32:32 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62KMWI23019 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:22:32 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g62KMVOI002421 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:22:32 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207021621160.13967-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:22:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the rules
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207021442590.2125-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:

>You sound bitter!

You misread my tone completely. Read the post again. (But I suspect that
some others were way too literal.)

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:19:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12392
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 10:19:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4F525@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:31:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12585510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 16:36:36 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g62KaaI26055 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:36:36
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g62KaZA236436 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          16:36:35 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEDGFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:35:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020702223206.A32548@yoccoz.multinix.com>

I paid $30 a couple of years ago for a limo ride from Manhattan to JFK. The
father of the doorman ran a limo biz ...got a lot of biz from his son.

Sch.

> =
> = Also -- what's the best way to get from JFK into Manhattan?
> =
> = Janet
>
> Limo.
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:21:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12399
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 10:21:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4F558@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:33:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12585676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 16:39:06 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Kd6I26707 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:39:06 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g62KgWB32604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:42:32
          +0200
References: <20020630183049.A26931@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301250090.25365-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020702224232.B32548@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:42:32 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301250090.25365-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>; from
              dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU on Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 12:51:01PM -0400

On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 12:51:01PM -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
= On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, steph wrote:
=
= >= In a city, they would be open until midnight on Saturday - and there would
= >= be an accupuncturist available.
= >
= >Your ideas of what to expect from a city are way weird.
=
= Interesting. They are based on experiences in NYC, San Francisco, Chicago,
= Washington, D.C., and Houston.
=
= Bethany

What!  I wasn't supposed to take this seriously?

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:26:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12409
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 10:26:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4F5E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:38:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12586190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 16:43:57 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f45.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.45]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62KhuI28269 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:43:56 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 13:43:51 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 02
          Jul 2002 20:43:51 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 20:43:51.0383 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[2C584E70:01C22209]
Message-ID:  <F45FLfPTnKGW2yL30Pt00005cb3@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:43:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>When I lived in LA, I noticed a lot of the hispanics put chili powder on
>their fruit.

That's a sugar, salt, and chili powder concoction sometimes known as
"chamoyada." Don't forget the prime ingredient will be sugar.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:34:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12440
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 10:34:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4F6B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:46:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12586858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 16:51:35 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62KpZI30390 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:51:35 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust50.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.52]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003649427@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 16:51:34 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020630183049.A26931@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206301250090.25365-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <20020702224232.B32548@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D22120A.E59B0050@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:50:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bethany wrote:
> Interesting. They are based on experiences in NYC, San > > Francisco, Chicago, Washington, D.C., and Houston.

Assuming that you are speaking literally, do you really mean that you
were receiving acupuncture treatments at midnight or later in each of
the above cities?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:34:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12447
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 10:34:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4F6E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:47:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12586976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 16:52:22 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g62KqMI30641 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:52:22
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g62KqLA358398 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          16:52:21 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEDHFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:51:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F45FLfPTnKGW2yL30Pt00005cb3@hotmail.com>

ohhhhh, that makes sense.

Sandra
>
> >When I lived in LA, I noticed a lot of the hispanics put chili powder on
> >their fruit.
>
> That's a sugar, salt, and chili powder concoction sometimes known as
> "chamoyada." Don't forget the prime ingredient will be sugar.
>
> -aht
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:37:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12451
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 10:37:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000E6CC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:55:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12587226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 16:55:08 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Kt8I31403 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:55:08 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07853 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:54:46 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 2 Jul 02
          16:54:48 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 2 Jul 02 16:00:20 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Priority: normal
References: <F214WcB2KWFYobPJLTq00004ab1@hotmail.com>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g62Kt8I31405
Message-ID:  <3D21CE10.17453.DEF7F6@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:00:17 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21C67D.13872.C1608D@localhost>

Hey.  I learned a new and useful word today.

epicene


BrP



> I think gender neutral but not neuter pronouns are a great idea. I
> wonder how many attempts have been made to do that (research
> anyone?).  As for "removing all gender indicators from the
> language" that's a little like trying to sweep all the sand from the
> beach.
>  When my kids were little they started using "ba" when they didn't
> know the gender (of a hamster in this case).  My daughter is now
> working with a lot of ts and tg kids and we often talk about bringing
> back "ba."
>
> BrP
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Did you all read that the guy who had "under god" declared unconstitutional
> > also want to remove all gender indicators
> > from the language? He wants to replace he/she with "re", him/her with "erm",
> > and his/hers with "rees".
> >
> > Marie
> >    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> > http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:38:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12458
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 10:38:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4F758@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:50:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12587319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 16:55:44 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62KthI31546 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:55:43 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g62KxAH32646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:59:10
          +0200
References: <20020702191643.18B1D86A9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D21FD46.800A9B96@akad.ee>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020702225909.D32548@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:59:09 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21FD46.800A9B96@akad.ee>; from Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE on Tue,
              Jul 02, 2002 at 10:21:42PM +0300

On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 10:21:42PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote:
=
= Yes, I'll leave on July 23 and be back on Aug. 3. Tallinn -- Rostock (by
= ship), a day in Amsterdam... I'll send the itinerary on another day, it
= is not with me just now.
=

Cool.  We'll have to figure out how/where to hook up.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:45:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12473
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 10:45:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E4F95B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:58:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12588775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 17:03:22 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62L3MI01399 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:03:22 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000055;
          2 Jul 02 17:03:04 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 2 Jul 02
          17:02:52 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000054; 2 Jul 02 17:02:43 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <F214WcB2KWFYobPJLTq00004ab1@hotmail.com>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D21DCB3.24842.8220C72A@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:02:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a0501040fb947ae3aac26@[192.168.1.100]>

On Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 12:25, Janet Hardy wrote:

> Personally, I think it inevitable that "they" and "theirs" will
> become acceptable gender-free pronouns. I can't quite bring myself to
> use them in my own writing, but if a Greenery manuscript comes in
> using them, I leave it alone.

And the reflexive is...: themself?

I understand "themself" has become part of the legal language in some
of Ontario's newer legislation. Hmmm... I just looked, and "themself"
gets 17 hits in 16 different acts dating back as far as 1990, e.g.

50.  (1) Except where otherwise provided by law,
(a) no person, other than a member whose rights and privileges are
not suspended, shall act as a barrister or solicitor or hold themself
out as or represent themself to be a barrister or solicitor or
practise as a barrister or solicitor; [...]

Interestingly, "herself" gets 374 hits in 176 documents, and himself
gets (surprise) 380 in 178. Even "itself" gets 279 in 137.

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/searchAdv_E.asp?lang=en

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:55:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12486
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 10:55:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000E6F10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:13:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12589646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 17:12:58 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62LCwI04192 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:12:58 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000057;
          2 Jul 02 17:12:40 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 2 Jul 02
          17:12:26 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000056; 2 Jul 02 17:12:19 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <F214WcB2KWFYobPJLTq00004ab1@hotmail.com>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D21DEF3.15741.82298FF2@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:12:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21C67D.13872.C1608D@localhost>

On Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 15:27, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

> I think gender neutral but not neuter pronouns are a great idea. I
> wonder how many attempts have been made to do that (research anyone?).

"I have seen God, and guess what? Ble's female!"

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 11:19:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12521
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 11:19:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000E710D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:37:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12590625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 17:37:08 -0400
Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.123]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g62Lb8I10185 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          17:37:08 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21] helo=verdie) by
          swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id
          17PVKd-00075e-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02 Jul 2002
          17:37:07 -0400
References: <F214WcB2KWFYobPJLTq00004ab1@hotmail.com> 
            <3D21CE10.17453.DEF7F6@localhost>
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600
Message-ID:  <002c01c22210$a4975f00$6601a8c0@earthlink.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:37:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Organization: Greenery Press
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Hey.  I learned a new and useful word today.
>
> epicene

Hey, those are my friends you're talking about, buddy. ;)

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:15:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12612
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 12:15:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E503A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:27:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12594611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 18:33:04 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62MX4I23790 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:33:04 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws87-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.87]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62MWwQ16676
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:32:59 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D217DFA.20319.6FBE7F@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D222A0F.619A1BCA@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:32:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: easily amused
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
>   I'm on a Canadian Immigration discussion list. There is occasional

How are your plans going?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:17:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12616
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 12:17:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E503D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:29:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12594680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 18:34:30 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62MYUI23972 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:34:30 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws87-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.87]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62MYRQ17196
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:34:28 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F92Z2hoVrpUVmk5nlBd0000445d@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D222A6B.B41CCFDB@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:34:19 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

> Since I'm paying attention to these things, I can say that even if I eat a
> much smaller than I'm accustomed to portion of pasta, my weight goes up.

I find this surprising.  Are you sure you're talking about just pasta,
not pasta plus goup on top of it?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:18:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12620
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 12:18:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E503F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:30:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12594733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 18:35:52 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62MZqI24167 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:35:52 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws87-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.87]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62MZYQ17437
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:35:34 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207021033350.17018-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D222AB3.450220FD@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:35:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >If I were doing that, I'd spray the metal with Pam.
>
> Yuck! Double yuck! Worse tasting and almost as many calories (contrary to
> what the contianer says).

I've never read what the container says re calories, and I've never
noticed a bad taste.  I've been using Pam ever since it was invented and
am quite happy with it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:24:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12647
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 12:24:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5049C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:36:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12594986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 18:42:11 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62MgBI25003 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:42:11 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws87-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.87]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62Mg9Q19395
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:42:09 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F225MWZF2crQ1LQGsAt000046b4@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D222C3E.2A266271@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:42:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

> They're not fried in butter, they are broiled or grilled after being dipped
> in butter. In the case of Ruth's Chris, I do believe they are also dipped
> after cooking.

The only times I've cooked steaks, I've marinated them for a while in
beer before putting them on the grill.

> Rita, I too love that fat that surrounds a pork chop. Pork fat rules!

It does interest me how different different tastes are.  The thought of
eating pig fat of that kind makes me gag.  Note that I said "of that
kind."  I love bacon as long as I don't see the fat clearly -- i.e., as
long as everything is dark and crisp.  I know the fat is very much
there, though.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:36:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12682
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 12:36:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E505C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:48:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12595034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 18:53:51 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62MhpI25199 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:43:51 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g62MhoOI016505 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:43:51 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207021843340.15102-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:43:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D22120A.E59B0050@valstar.net>

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

>Assuming that you are speaking literally, do you really mean that you
>were receiving acupuncture treatments at midnight or later in each of
>the above cities?

When did I say that?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:40:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12689
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 12:40:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50645@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:52:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12595685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 18:57:43 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62MvhI27640 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:57:43 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYN0026D946PF@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 02 Jul 2002 17:57:42 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F22806SJOIE0vPzF0ak00004ad0@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D222F8F.4020403@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:56:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

>> From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
>> Have you lost any weight, yet?
>
>
> Yeah. About five pounds. I've not been very good, but I'm drinking lots of
> water, and eating only a yogurt and fruit for lunch. (I used to pack huge
> portions of leftovers). During the week, I'm cutting down on starches and
> portion size at dinner. I'm a little more undisciplined on the weekends. I
> SUCK at self-denial. But in general I'm making some conscious decisions
> when
> my hand starts creeping toward the bread basket.


Five pounds isn't bad for not being very good.  Sometimes it
just takes changing one habit -- like your lunches.  Are you
starving in the afternoons?


> I've also been swimming a half mile several times a week again, which feels
> GREAT.


I just read somewhere that if I ran instead of walked Vinnie
at night, I'd burn 3x as many calories.  So I guess I'll put
on sneakers instead of my Birks and start trying to run part
of the time and see if I can build up.  I've never been much
of a runner.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:40:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12696
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 12:40:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50656@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:53:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12595704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 18:58:22 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62MwMI27725 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:58:22 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYN002K1959P8@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 02 Jul 2002 17:58:22 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207021843340.15102-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D222FB7.2010301@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:56:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:
>
>
>>Assuming that you are speaking literally, do you really mean that you
>>were receiving acupuncture treatments at midnight or later in each of
>>the above cities?
>>
>
> When did I say that?
>

Then quit your bitchin'.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:42:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12700
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 12:42:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000E7919@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:00:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12595845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:00:16 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62N0GI27996 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:00:16 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws192-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.192]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62N0DQ23724
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:00:14 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702191643.18B1D86A9@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D22303D.55361D7C@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:59:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Kristin Sarv said:
> > cheaper. At the moment I'm happy to go with the group.
>
> So are you going?

I also am confused.  I thought you had decided not to go.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:43:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12706
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 12:43:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E793D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:01:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12595937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:01:11 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62N1AI28135 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:01:10 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws192-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.192]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62N18Q23892
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:01:08 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702191643.18B1D86A9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D21FD46.800A9B96@akad.ee>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2230A4.E4338887@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:00:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Kristin Sarv wrote:

> Yes, I'll leave on July 23 and be back on Aug. 3. Tallinn -- Rostock (by
> ship), a day in Amsterdam... I'll send the itinerary on another day, it

Excellent!

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:46:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12721
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 12:46:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50715@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:59:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12596036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:04:23 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62N4MI28499 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:04:22 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws192-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.192]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62N4KQ24770
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:04:20 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702192253.9A58386A9@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D223170.E6448724@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:04:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > Yes, I'll leave on July 23 and be back on Aug. 3. Tallinn -- Rostock (by
> > ship), a day in Amsterdam... I'll send the itinerary on another day, it
> > is not with me just now.
>
> Maybe you can hook up with Steph.

Is the airport in Amsterdam involved?  I think I'll be there Aug. 3.
Can't remember now my exact itinerary, but I'm pretty sure that I leave
here the morning of Aug. 2, fly from here to Memphis to Chicago to
Amsterdam to Helsinki, which means that I'll be in Amsterdam sometime on
Aug. 3.  (The convenient Memphis->Amsterdam flight was booked solid
months ago, of course.  But at least I'll be able to return that route
(Helsinki to Amsterdam to Memphis to GTR).

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:47:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12725
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 12:47:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5071F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:59:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12596049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:04:41 -0400
Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g62N4eI28536 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          19:04:40 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #1) id 17PWhH-0006Gp-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02
          Jul 2002 19:04:39 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702191643.18B1D86A9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D21FD46.800A9B96@akad.ee> <3D2230A4.E4338887@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010419b947e0e10923@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:00:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      naming
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2230A4.E4338887@maynor.net>

Some friends of mine just named their new baby Jerome Birkner. Is
that not the nerdiest name in the history of names, or what? It just
seems somehow made for whining.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:49:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12729
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 12:49:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50763@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:01:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12596185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:07:08 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62N78I28982 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:07:08 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws192-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.192]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62N6cQ25398
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:06:38 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702192253.9A58386A9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D21FEB8.8696324F@akad.ee>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2231FA.470FC93D@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:06:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Kristin Sarv wrote:

> > Maybe you can hook up with Steph.
>
> I was wondering, or trying to remember in which town she lived. Amsterdam?

Yes.

> >If she is not Belgium or something.
>
> ???

That sentence gave me pause also.  I then decided that there was a
missing "in" -- "in Belgium."

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:53:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12736
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 12:53:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E507C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:06:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12596302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:11:25 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62NBPI29500 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:11:25 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws123-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.123]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62NBNQ26558
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:11:23 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D21C67D.13872.C1608D@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D223318.52F16F2F@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:11:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> I think gender neutral but not neuter pronouns are a great idea. I
> wonder how many attempts have been made to do that (research
> anyone?).

I've seen figures on that but can't remember them.  A fair number have
been created, but none caught on.  They feel a bit too weird for most
people, imho.  I was required to use a set of them in a philosophy
course in grad school but can't even remember now what they were or
whose set.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:55:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12743
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 12:55:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E507DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:07:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12596339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:12:53 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62NCqI29684 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:12:53 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws123-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.123]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62NCoQ26961
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:12:50 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEDAFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D22335E.67A0E646@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:12:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:

> Refresh me: what are "second cousins"?

Children of first cousins.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:57:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12747
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 12:57:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E507FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:09:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12596372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:14:39 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62NEdI29904 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:14:39 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws123-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.123]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62NEaQ27515
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:14:37 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2233D9.CA7C700D@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:14:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Holy Moly
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

There's serious thunder thundering out side my window.  I think it's
time to turn off and unplug the computer.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:16:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12782
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 13:16:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000E7C77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:33:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12597096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:33:49 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f120.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.120]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62NXnI32731 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:33:49 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 16:33:43 -0700
Received: from 209.246.87.61 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 02
          Jul 2002 23:33:43 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [209.246.87.61]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 23:33:43.0805 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[E7807AD0:01C22220]
Message-ID:  <F120k0FP466L082lTXG00004f1a@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:33:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
>just takes changing one habit -- like your lunches.  Are you
>starving in the afternoons?

Not until right before dinner. I can take it

>of the time and see if I can build up.  I've never been much
>of a runner.

I hate running, but I do it sometimes because it's so good. Creates a
hostile environment for fat. I hope you have good running shoes.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:18:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12786
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 13:18:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50A1F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:31:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12597258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:36:22 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f238.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.238]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62NaLI00711 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:36:21 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 16:36:16 -0700
Received: from 209.246.87.61 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 02
          Jul 2002 23:36:16 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [209.246.87.61]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 23:36:16.0422 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[4277FC60:01C22221]
Message-ID:  <F2383GOe6hLT2ROONwI00004e84@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:36:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
>The only times I've cooked steaks, I've marinated them for a while in
>beer before putting them on the grill.

Never heard of that. My normal marinade is Worcestershire, red wine, garlic
and olive oil. Then there's my flank steak marinade...

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:20:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12793
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 13:20:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50A4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:32:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12597347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:37:50 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f307.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.182]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62NbnI00954 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:37:49 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 16:37:44 -0700
Received: from 209.246.87.61 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 02
          Jul 2002 23:37:44 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [209.246.87.61]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 23:37:44.0336 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[76DE9900:01C22221]
Message-ID:  <F307jbDt3HvoFOAmEaJ000046a8@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:37:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
>I find this surprising.  Are you sure you're talking about just pasta,
>not pasta plus goup on top of it?

I feel confident that it is the pasta.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:25:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12797
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 13:25:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50AB5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:37:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12597461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:42:58 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f87.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.87]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62NgwI01609 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:42:58 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 16:42:53 -0700
Received: from 209.246.87.61 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 02
          Jul 2002 23:42:52 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [209.246.87.61]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 23:42:53.0280 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[2F03B600:01C22222]
Message-ID:  <F87KpP4UwU6pJSQHdIv00004f86@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:42:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
>= Also -- what's the best way to get from JFK into Manhattan?

>Limo.

I've always taken a cab. It's a flat fare -- $30 I think. There might be a
cheaper way -- the A train?

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:27:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12804
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 13:27:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50AD0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:39:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12597479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:44:57 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62NivI01804 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:44:57 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws112-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.112]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62NiqQ05335
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:44:53 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEDGFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D223AF0.9733212E@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:44:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:
>
> I paid $30 a couple of years ago for a limo ride from Manhattan to JFK. The

I think that's what it costs here, unless it's gone up.  But you have to
make a reservation.  You can't just arrive at the airport and expect to
find the limo man there if you haven't made prior arrangements.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:30:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12821
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 13:30:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E7DC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:47:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12597523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:47:35 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g62NlZI02147 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:47:35
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g62NlYA314496 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          19:47:35 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEDNFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:46:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: naming
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a05010419b947e0e10923@[192.168.1.100]>

I like the name Jerome. Very friendly.

Sandra
>
> Some friends of mine just named their new baby Jerome Birkner. Is
> that not the nerdiest name in the history of names, or what? It just
> seems somehow made for whining.
>
> Janet
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:30:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12825
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 13:30:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50B0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:42:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12597529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:47:40 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62NleI02163 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:47:40 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws112-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.112]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g62NlbQ05934
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:47:37 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F22806SJOIE0vPzF0ak00004ad0@hotmail.com>
            <3D222F8F.4020403@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D223B96.83FCBDDC@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:47:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> I just read somewhere that if I ran instead of walked Vinnie
> at night, I'd burn 3x as many calories.  So I guess I'll put
> on sneakers instead of my Birks and start trying to run part
> of the time and see if I can build up.  I've never been much
> of a runner.

What does Vinnie think of the idea?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:30:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12829
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 13:30:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50B0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:42:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12597535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:48:04 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g62Nm4I02208 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:48:04
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g62Nm3A309296 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          19:48:03 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEDNFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:47:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D22335E.67A0E646@maynor.net>

Danke!

Sch.

>
> S Hess wrote:
>
> > Refresh me: what are "second cousins"?
>
> Children of first cousins.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:35:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12833
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 13:35:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000E7E35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:53:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12597632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:53:23 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62NrNI02831 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:53:23 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYN001JBBOY8F@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 02 Jul 2002 18:53:22 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F22806SJOIE0vPzF0ak00004ad0@hotmail.com>
            <3D222F8F.4020403@swbell.net> <3D223B96.83FCBDDC@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D223C9C.8090001@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:51:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>I just read somewhere that if I ran instead of walked Vinnie
>>at night, I'd burn 3x as many calories.  So I guess I'll put
>>on sneakers instead of my Birks and start trying to run part
>>of the time and see if I can build up.  I've never been much
>>of a runner.
>>
>
> What does Vinnie think of the idea?
>


He'd prefer to run, of course.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:36:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12840
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 13:36:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E7E37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:53:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12597643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:53:36 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62NraI02861 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:53:36 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020702235331.KHQJ29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:53:31 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIEMKFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:55:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Saturday
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F103Y0pi8Zac4KPHMCI0000474f@hotmail.com>

> >Are you going to FRFF, Marie?
>
> We're contemplating the Saturday. Sunday the 28th we're going to see Beth
> Orton at Summerstage.  You?

I bought my 3-day camping ticket, but if I camp or not has not been
determined yet. I really don't like camping, but commuting each day has
gotten to be a drag, too. *sigh*

I'll probably be in the tall-chairs section halfway up the hill Stage
Murray, right by the side path that goes all the way up the hill.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:36:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12844
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 13:36:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50B7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:48:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12597648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:54:01 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Ns0I02913 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:54:00 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYN001V1BPZ5T@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 02 Jul 2002 18:54:00 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F225MWZF2crQ1LQGsAt000046b4@hotmail.com>
            <3D222C3E.2A266271@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D223CC2.9010904@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:52:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Marie Ascher wrote:
>
>
>>They're not fried in butter, they are broiled or grilled after being dipped
>>in butter. In the case of Ruth's Chris, I do believe they are also dipped
>>after cooking.
>>
>
> The only times I've cooked steaks, I've marinated them for a while in
> beer before putting them on the grill.
>
>
>>Rita, I too love that fat that surrounds a pork chop. Pork fat rules!
>>
>
> It does interest me how different different tastes are.  The thought of
> eating pig fat of that kind makes me gag.  Note that I said "of that
> kind."  I love bacon as long as I don't see the fat clearly -- i.e., as
> long as everything is dark and crisp.  I know the fat is very much
> there, though.
>


Yup.  There are actually people out there that think orange
roughy tastes good.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:37:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12848
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 13:37:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50B93@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:49:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12597669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:55:11 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62NtBI03085 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:55:11 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYN001XIBRY5T@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 02 Jul 2002 18:55:11 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020702180157.5FB7E7D9C@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D21ED59.E498BA5F@valstar.net>
Message-ID:  <3D223D09.6070503@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:53:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: food discovery
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Karen Kay wrote:
>
>>Wow. This surprises me as much as Alyce's having never eaten a bagel.
>>
>
> I've had plenty of great chicken liver, though. Used to do PR for a
> Jewish restaurant in Chicago, and part of my pay was eating there
> whenever I wanted to, which was fairly often, given my love for
> preparing food. You have to squeeze lemon juice over it for the full
> effect of wonderfulness.
>


I like Greek-style chicken livers.  If they weren't such
little cholesterol bombs, I'd make them for myself more often.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:39:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12852
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 13:39:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50BBC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:52:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12597705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 19:57:23 -0400
Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g62NvMI03365 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          19:57:23 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17PXWL-0004Fa-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 19:57:22 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <F87KpP4UwU6pJSQHdIv00004f86@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010400b947ed4df43f@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:53:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F87KpP4UwU6pJSQHdIv00004f86@hotmail.com>

>>From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
>>= Also -- what's the best way to get from JFK into Manhattan?
>
>>Limo.
>
>I've always taken a cab. It's a flat fare -- $30 I think. There might be a
>cheaper way -- the A train?

Yes, apparently so. But I'd have to transfer from the A to the Z to
the 4, all after midnight & with luggage. I may just do the cab
instead, in spite of being on a v. tight budget this trip.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:44:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12862
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 13:44:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50C1F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:56:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12597615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 20:02:08 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g62Nq8I02673 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:52:08 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g62Nq7OI004658 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:52:08 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207021951360.15752-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:52:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      NYC transit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

For once you are there, check http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:47:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12874
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 13:47:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50C67@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:59:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12597962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 20:05:07 -0400
Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.12]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g63056I04507 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          20:05:06 -0400
Received: from user-vcaum8l.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.21]
          helo=[192.168.1.100]) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17PXdp-00019H-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue,
          02 Jul 2002 20:05:05 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
References: <000f01c22200$16aa5040$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-ID:  <a05010401b947edc41054@[192.168.1.100]>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:01:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000f01c22200$16aa5040$48305b80@EAGLE72>

>The New York Airport Service Express Bus provides transportation to
>destinations throughout New York including Grand Central Terminal, the
>Port Authority Bus Terminal, Penn Station and numerous Midtown hotels.

Unfortunately, they stop running at 11:15P -- exactly when my plane
is due to arrive :(

But thanks for the pointer to the JFK website. Looks like
SuperShuttle Manhattan is the way to go -- 24 hours a day,
door-to-door, for $15-$19.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 14:01:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12895
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 14:01:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50D9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:13:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12598401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 20:19:13 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g630JDI06552 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:19:13 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g630JBH29622 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:19:12 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207021918290.15024-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:19:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: the rules
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207021621160.13967-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:
>
> >You sound bitter!
>
> You misread my tone completely. Read the post again. (But I suspect that
> some others were way too literal.)

*Read The Post Again?*

I am bitter!

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 14:02:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12899
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 14:02:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50DC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:14:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12598470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 20:20:13 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f83.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.83]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g630KCI06755 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:20:12 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 17:20:07 -0700
Received: from 209.246.87.61 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 03
          Jul 2002 00:20:07 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [209.246.87.61]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 00:20:07.0420 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[62AA6BC0:01C22227]
Message-ID:  <F83bHNfeoUhZvZ4bgrs00002e9c@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:20:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I don't think she's right, Sandra. This always confuses me, because that's
precisely what we called second cousins, but children of first cousins are
first cousins once removed. Second cousins are, are, are...dagnabbit, I
forget.

Marie


>From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
>Danke!
>
>Sch.
>
> >
> > S Hess wrote:
> >
> > > Refresh me: what are "second cousins"?
> >
> > Children of first cousins.
> >
> > --
> >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
> >




Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 14:05:30 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12909
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 14:05:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E8107@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:22:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12598560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 20:22:57 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f292.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.167]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g630MvI07183 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:22:57 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          2 Jul 2002 17:22:51 -0700
Received: from 209.246.87.61 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 03
          Jul 2002 00:22:51 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [209.246.87.61]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 00:22:51.0816 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C4A74280:01C22227]
Message-ID:  <F292BJimZGPBgCu72f100002f89@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:22:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: naming
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with Jerome. It's Birkner that's whiny.

Marie

>From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
>I like the name Jerome. Very friendly.
>
>Sandra
> >
> > Some friends of mine just named their new baby Jerome Birkner. Is
> > that not the nerdiest name in the history of names, or what? It just
> > seems somehow made for whining.
> >
> > Janet
> >




Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 14:24:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13009
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 14:24:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E50FE0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:37:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12599273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 20:42:21 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g630gKI10399 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:42:21 -0400
Received: from hppav (216.249.158.68) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex 6.5.007)
          id 3D0A9704000A7826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          19:38:44 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <012701c2222a$af236b20$449ef9d8@hppav>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:43:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Rain all over me, baby ....
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ah ... sweet sound of thunder. After the past three days of 100+ degrees F
and high levels of humidity, it's time ...

AS, who's thinking of going to western Washington in August

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 14:28:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13016
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 14:28:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E51023@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:40:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12599350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 20:45:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g630jXI10929 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:45:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A6AD37DDA; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 17:45:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020703004532.A6AD37DDA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:45:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: food discovery
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D223D09.6070503@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 2,
              2002  6:53:45 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> I like Greek-style chicken livers.  If they weren't such
> little cholesterol bombs, I'd make them for myself more often.

What are Greek-style chicken livers? With yogurt?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 14:47:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13041
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 14:47:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E511BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:59:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12599924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 21:04:51 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6314pI14661 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:04:51 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYN0019XF028E@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 02 Jul 2002 20:04:50 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F120k0FP466L082lTXG00004f1a@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D224D5C.7060000@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:03:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

>> From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
>> just takes changing one habit -- like your lunches.  Are you
>> starving in the afternoons?
>
>
> Not until right before dinner. I can take it


I hate feeling hungry.  I'm a good candidate for speed, uh,
Dexitrim.


>> of the time and see if I can build up.  I've never been much
>> of a runner.
>
>
> I hate running, but I do it sometimes because it's so good. Creates a
> hostile environment for fat. I hope you have good running shoes.



I have a pair of 2-year-old running shoes.  If I keep it up
for a week, I've promised myself a new pair.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 14:53:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13048
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 14:53:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E8579@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:11:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12600134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 21:11:04 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g631B4I15718 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:11:04 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.14]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYNF8L03.IIC for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:09:57 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D224F0D.ECCE93EA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:10:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Joline Blon's Bounce
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

    I'm reading James Lee Burke's latest, and he uses the phrase
"cutting his head" twice in two pages.  From context I'm assuming that
its a gesture, but I'm not familiar with the expression.  Any thoughts?

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 15:12:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13072
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 15:12:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E872D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:29:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12600693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 21:29:50 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g631ToI17443 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:29:50 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id SAA44220 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          18:29:49 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207021829340.40101-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:29:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Joline Blon's Bounce
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D224F0D.ECCE93EA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>

Could it be like tilting his head to one side?

 Sharon

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, John Williams wrote:

>     I'm reading James Lee Burke's latest, and he uses the phrase
> "cutting his head" twice in two pages.  From context I'm assuming that
> its a gesture, but I'm not familiar with the expression.  Any thoughts?
>
> JMW
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 15:42:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13110
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 15:42:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5165A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:55:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12601552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 22:00:18 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6320II19868 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:00:18
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.179]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g6320HA297362 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          22:00:18 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEEDFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:59:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Joline Blon's Bounce
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D224F0D.ECCE93EA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>

I'd hoped to find it listed in my Dictionary of American Underworld
Lingo....but found nothing.

Sandra
>
>     I'm reading James Lee Burke's latest, and he uses the phrase
> "cutting his head" twice in two pages.  From context I'm assuming that
> its a gesture, but I'm not familiar with the expression.  Any thoughts?
>
> JMW
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 15:47:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13125
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 15:47:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E516DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:59:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12601825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 22:04:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6324cI20353 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:04:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 601118695; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 19:04:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020703020437.601118695@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:04:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Joline Blon's Bounce
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D224F0D.ECCE93EA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at
              "Jul 2, 2002  6:10:39 pm"

John Williams said:
>     I'm reading James Lee Burke's latest, and he uses the phrase
> "cutting his head" twice in two pages.  From context I'm assuming that
> its a gesture, but I'm not familiar with the expression.  Any thoughts?

A sharp nod of the head, as in greeting?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 15:59:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13132
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 15:59:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E8B56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:17:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12602215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 22:17:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g632H2I21319 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:17:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws160-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.160]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g632GxQ17910
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:17:00 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F83bHNfeoUhZvZ4bgrs00002e9c@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D225E98.DC841017@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:16:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> I don't think she's right, Sandra. This always confuses me, because that's
> precisely what we called second cousins, but children of first cousins are
> first cousins once removed. Second cousins are, are, are...dagnabbit, I
> forget.

Second cousins (like first or third or fifth or whatever) are of the
same generation.  Removed = different generations.  It's really very
simple.  Obviously "of the same generation" doesn't mean they're
necessarily around the same age.  But it means they are <parallel>.

John and Mary are siblings.  John's children and Mary's children are
first cousins.  John's grandchild is Mary's child's first cousin once
removed.  John's grandchild and Mary's grandchild are second cousins.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 16:02:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13149
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 16:02:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E8B8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:19:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12602338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 22:19:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g632JTI21530 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:19:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws160-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.160]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g632JRQ18520
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:19:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D224F0D.ECCE93EA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D225F2C.9A20D7CF@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:19:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Joline Blon's Bounce
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

John Williams wrote:
>
>     I'm reading James Lee Burke's latest, and he uses the phrase
> "cutting his head" twice in two pages.  From context I'm assuming that
> its a gesture, but I'm not familiar with the expression.  Any thoughts?

Is there more specific context?  I use the expression but not usually by
itself.  I would say "cutting his head around" -- as in jerking his head
around to look at something interesting or whatever.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 17:05:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13221
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 17:05:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E52475@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:17:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12608811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 23:22:53 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g633MrI28246 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:22:53 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g633Mo109164 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:22:51 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207022219440.9084-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:22:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

God it took me forever to determine that this word basically means a
cheer, like yay.

That Adam used it in an off-list music e-mail.

I never heard of it.  OK this is a poll:  who else here (besides Adam and
I suppose Pete and I suppose Steph and I guess I suppose Anne) know this
word?

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 17:13:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13239
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 17:13:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E52583@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:25:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12609259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 23:31:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g633VCI28910 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:31:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 88F147EF2; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 20:29:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020703032924.88F147EF2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:29:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207022219440.9084-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 2, 2002 10:22:50 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> God it took me forever to determine that this word basically means a
> cheer, like yay.
>
> That Adam used it in an off-list music e-mail.
>
> I never heard of it.  OK this is a poll:  who else here (besides Adam and
> I suppose Pete and I suppose Steph and I guess I suppose Anne) know this
> word?

You surprise me.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 17:25:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13258
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 17:25:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E526CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:37:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12609748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 23:42:40 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g633geI29649 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:42:40 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA18808
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          20:42:39 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EF9097004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,  2 Jul 2002 20:42:38 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 18803 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2002 03:42:37 -0000
Received: from p11.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.58?) (66.237.73.58) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 3 Jul 2002 03:42:37 -0000
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Moment-Of-Dada: But will they have fireworks fish swimming under a fireworks
                  waterfall?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130306b9482231e574@[66.237.73.58]>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:42:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207022219440.9084-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

>God it took me forever to determine that this word basically means a
>cheer, like yay.
>
>That Adam used it in an off-list music e-mail.
>
>I never heard of it.  OK this is a poll:  who else here (besides Adam and
>I suppose Pete and I suppose Steph and I guess I suppose Anne) know this
>word?
>
>Ann

It's an online word for me.  I've never actually heard anyone exclaim it.
Then again, for all I know, it might be in a class with "psst", "faugh",
"tsk", etc, where the conventional spelling does has little if any phonemic
correspondence with the conventional pronunciation.

Ken Miller
Partridge School of Gentle Arts

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 17:26:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13265
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 17:26:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E526E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:38:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12609780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 23:43:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g633hrI29701 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:43:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2A24C7E44; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 20:43:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020703034353.2A24C7E44@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:43:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130306b9482231e574@[66.237.73.58]> from Bookrat at "Jul 2,
              2002  8:42:33 pm"

Bookrat said:
> It's an online word for me.  I've never actually heard anyone exclaim it.
> Then again, for all I know, it might be in a class with "psst", "faugh",
> "tsk", etc, where the conventional spelling does has little if any phonemic
> correspondence with the conventional pronunciation.

What is the convential pronunciation of "faugh"?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 17:30:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13277
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 17:30:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E52736@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:42:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12609887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 23:47:58 -0400
Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g633lwI29935 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:47:58 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.a8.de703a9 (3866) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          23:47:49 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <a8.de703a9.2a53cde5@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:47:49 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: work'n'whistle
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/02/2002 2:02:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE writes:


But it is good that you're back, Evelyn.



Thanks!  I'm glad to be back!

I'm also going to sell some Sears stock.  I'm looking for a good
inexpensive computer (600 - 750 MHz PIII or Athlon with 128 MB
RAM); how much should that cost now?  And I'm getting a pager
so Mom can call me when she needs to; I know it's against the
rules to keep a pager on the floor, but she comes first.

Last week a stray cat followed me home from the bus stop;
so we've been feeding it until we find out who owns it.  We can't
let it in because of Sweetie, but this isn't the first time we've
taken care of stray cats; we took care of Claudia's cat in Akron.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 17:32:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13281
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 17:32:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000E95DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:50:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12609943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 23:50:13 -0400
Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g633oDI30088 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:50:13 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.f3.1d65a9af (3866) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          23:50:02 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <f3.1d65a9af.2a53ce6a@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:50:02 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: work'n'whistle
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/02/2002 2:02:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE writes:


You work so hard already. So maybe you do not find much reason to
whistle merrily. Unfortunately.



If only my manager would thank me for working the long hours or ask
me if I'm getting along OK, but she doesn't.  No wonder a lot of people
are leaving Brand Central.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 17:38:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13294
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 17:38:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E527F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:50:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12610162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 23:55:48 -0400
Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g633tmI30400 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:55:48 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.17b.aa2a600 (3866) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          23:55:40 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <17b.aa2a600.2a53cfbc@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:55:40 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/02/2002 10:50:13 PM Central Daylight Time,
karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:

<<
What is the convential pronunciation of "faugh"?


>>

"Faw." Burgess Meredith used it quite a bit in his portrayal of the
Penguin.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 17:41:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13304
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 17:41:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5284E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:53:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12610318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Jul
          2002 23:59:08 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g633x7I30623 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:59:07 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA21026
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          20:59:07 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 795E497004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,  2 Jul 2002 20:59:06 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 21022 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2002 03:59:05 -0000
Received: from p11.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.58?) (66.237.73.58) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 3 Jul 2002 03:59:05 -0000
References: <3D2192A8.E8310892@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Moment-Of-Dada: But will they have fireworks fish swimming under a fireworks
                  waterfall?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130301b948176d5de3@[66.237.73.78]>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:59:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEDAFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

>Refresh me: what are "second cousins"?
>
>Andrasay

"First", "second", etc., all refer to people at the same generational
level.  The "removed" label indicates different generations.

Suppose that Joe and Jim are first cousins, and that they both have
children.  The children are, mutually, second cousins.  Meanwhile, Joe's
children and Jim are, mutually, first cousins once removed, as are Jim's
children and Joe.

When those children themselves have children, those children will all be
third cousins.  They will also be either Joe's or Jim's first cousins twice
removed.

Clear as mud?

Ken Miller
Genealogic Correspondent
The Lostin Times

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 17:50:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13325
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 17:50:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E52A56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 0:02:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12611966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 00:07:45 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6343fI31891 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 00:03:41 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6343em10606 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:03:40 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207022302260.10439-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:03:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020703032924.88F147EF2@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> > I never heard of it.  OK this is a poll:  who else here (besides Adam and
> > I suppose Pete and I suppose Steph and I guess I suppose Anne) know this
> > word?
>
> You surprise me.

What does that mean.  Answer the question!  (Either this one or the "who
else here" one, or both)

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 17:53:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13332
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 17:53:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E52B7A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 0:05:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12612377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 00:10:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g634AhI32613 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 00:10:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 108D87F63; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 21:10:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020703041043.108D87F63@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:10:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207022302260.10439-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 2, 2002 11: 3:40 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > > I never heard of it.  OK this is a poll:  who else here (besides Adam and
> > > I suppose Pete and I suppose Steph and I guess I suppose Anne) know this
> > > word?
> >
> > You surprise me.
>
> What does that mean.  Answer the question!  (Either this one or the "who
> else here" one, or both)

It means I thought everyone knew this, it's so common. The 't' is
often pronounced as a glottal stop.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:01:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13349
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 18:01:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E52C75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 0:13:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12612786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 00:18:27 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g634IRI00878 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 00:18:27 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g634IQiX016481 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:18:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207022302260.10439-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020702211803.00a5bad0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:18:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020703041043.108D87F63@yellow.rahul.net>

At 09:10 PM 7/2/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Ann Borkin said:
> > On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > > > I never heard of it.  OK this is a poll:  who else here (besides
> Adam and
> > > > I suppose Pete and I suppose Steph and I guess I suppose Anne) know
> this
> > > > word?
> > >
> > > You surprise me.
> >
> > What does that mean.  Answer the question!  (Either this one or the "who
> > else here" one, or both)
>
>It means I thought everyone knew this, it's so common. The 't' is
>often pronounced as a glottal stop.

Uh-huh.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:05:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13353
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 18:05:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E52D51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 0:17:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12613236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 00:22:47 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g634MlI01477 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 00:22:47 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA24311
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Tue, 2 Jul 2002
          21:22:46 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CD5297004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,  2 Jul 2002 21:22:45 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 24307 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2002 04:22:44 -0000
Received: from p29.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.58?) (66.237.73.76) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 3 Jul 2002 04:22:44 -0000
References: <v03130306b9482231e574@[66.237.73.58]> from Bookrat at "Jul 2,
            2002  8:42:33 pm"
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Moment-Of-Dada: But will they have fireworks fish swimming under a fireworks
                  waterfall?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130307b9482a18c0d7@[66.237.73.58]>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:22:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020703034353.2A24C7E44@yellow.rahul.net>

>> Then again, for all I know, it might be in a class with "psst", "faugh",
>> "tsk", etc, where the conventional spelling does has little if any phonemic
>> correspondence with the conventional pronunciation.
>
>What is the convential pronunciation of "faugh"?
>
>Karen

What is the conventional pronunciation of those clicking sounds in Xhosa?
It's close to pointless to try describing the sound of "faugh" because
English just doesn't use that sound anywhere else.  M-W describes it as "a
strong p-sound or lip trill".  You might try going to www.m-w.com and
checking their audio pronunciation if your computer is somewhat less
obsolescent than mine.

"Tsk" is much the same; I think "tch" is perhaps more imitative of the
sound, but basically it's a cluck, and English is not a language given to
clucking.

Ken Miller

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:13:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13365
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 18:13:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000E9A4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 0:30:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12613679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 00:30:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g634UUI02036 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 00:30:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 054947F6E; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 21:30:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020703043028.054947F6E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:30:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130307b9482a18c0d7@[66.237.73.58]> from Bookrat at "Jul 2,
              2002  9:22:41 pm"

Bookrat said:
> What is the conventional pronunciation of those clicking sounds in Xhosa?
....
> "Tsk" is much the same; I think "tch" is perhaps more imitative of the
> sound, but basically it's a cluck, and English is not a language given to
> clucking.

No, but it's very close to those Xhosa sounds...

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:14:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13373
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 18:14:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000E9A59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 0:31:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12613714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 00:31:29 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g634VSI02081 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 00:31:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4A5147F6D; Tue,  2
          Jul 2002 21:31:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020703043128.4A5147F6D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:31:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!e
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130307b9482a18c0d7@[66.237.73.58]> from Bookrat at "Jul 2,
              2002  9:22:41 pm"

Bookrat said:
> It's close to pointless to try describing the sound of "faugh" because
> English just doesn't use that sound anywhere else.  M-W describes it as "a
> strong p-sound or lip trill".  You might try going to www.m-w.com and
> checking their audio pronunciation if your computer is somewhat less
> obsolescent than mine.

Hm. I keep wanting to see a mouth make this noise. Evelyn, this is
nothing like what the Penguin said.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 19:18:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13457
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 19:18:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E53417@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 1:30:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12615362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 01:36:16 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g635QGI05768 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 01:26:16 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D350213C44 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed,  3 Jul 2002 00:26:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g635QF400587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 00:26:15
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207022219440.9084-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020703002615.A541@pobox.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 00:26:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207022219440.9084-100000@og1.olagrande.net>; from
              aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET on Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 10:22:50PM -0500

On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 10:22:50PM -0500, Ann Borkin wrote:
>

This is most unsightly.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:21:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13744
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 20:21:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E53A51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 2:33:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12618117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 02:39:01 -0400
Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk
          (IDENT:mirapoint@msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g636d1I11837 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 02:39:01 -0400
Received: from localhost (213-78-112-110.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.112.110])
          by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AHU29045;
          Wed, 3 Jul 2002 07:39:15 +0100 (BST)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482)
Message-ID:  <944A47A2-8E4F-11D6-90EF-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 07:39:09 +0100
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Roy Jaques <rjaques@ONETEL.NET.UK>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <802ED6FE13D2@[216.138.220.251]>

>>> Your ideas of what to expect from a city are way weird.
>>
>> Interesting. They are based on experiences in NYC, San Francisco,
>> Chicago,
>> Washington, D.C., and Houston.
>
> London is an example of a hardly less-than-world-class city
> where the subway closes around 11PM on Friday and Saturday
> nights.
>
The subways usually stay open but the Tube closes every night.
It's later than 11pm though, the trains stop between 12 and 1
and start again between 5 and 6, it depends where you are.

Now as for the pubs, 11pm is right.

> Tony H.
>
Roy

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:27:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13778
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 20:27:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E53ABA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 2:39:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12618186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 02:44:52 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g636iqI12098 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 02:44:52 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020703064446.XIIN15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 06:44:46 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020702220547.0235d070@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:37:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: work'n'whistle
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a8.de703a9.2a53cde5@aol.com>

Evelyn Duncan writes,

>I'm looking for a good
>inexpensive computer (600 - 750 MHz PIII or Athlon with 128 MB
>RAM); how much should that cost now?

Current machines are 1 GHz and more.  Not that you need it, necessarily; on
the home workstations, we're still running Win 98/ME on machines ranging
from 366 MHz to 600 MHz.

Anyway, I'd probably buy something like an eMachines T1220: Celeron 1.2
GHz, 128 MB, 20 GB, 48x CD, FDD, 56K, XP.  With computer ($475), 17"
monitor ($220) and rebate (-$175) = $520.  Without the monitor, it's $475 -
$75 = $400.  (The rebates are real -- no online service required.)

If you need CD-RW or DVD, buy 'em separate and add them yourself instead of
buying a more expensive computer.

Outpost has refurbished T1115's (1.0 GHz) with no monitor for $380.

Given those prices, if you could find an old or used P3 600-750, I wouldn't
pay more than $250 or so for it, plus $75 or so additional for each of
either or both CD-RW or DVD.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:31:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13793
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 20:31:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E53AF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 2:43:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12618221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 02:48:37 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g636mbI12309 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 02:48:37 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g636q6b01151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:52:06
          +0200
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207022219440.9084-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020703085205.A1122@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:52:05 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207022219440.9084-100000@og1.olagrande.net>; from
              aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET on Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 10:22:50PM -0500

On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 10:22:50PM -0500, Ann Borkin wrote:
= God it took me forever to determine that this word basically means a
= cheer, like yay.
=
= That Adam used it in an off-list music e-mail.
=
= I never heard of it.  OK this is a poll:  who else here (besides Adam and
= I suppose Pete and I suppose Steph and I guess I suppose Anne) know this
= word?

I've never heard it, but I am a big fan of context.  You have to
remember that I used to have conversations all the time with
missing words in them.  Now that the Dutch speakers are in the
minority at work my English has loosened up again.  The English
word that popped out of my mouth that got asked about most
recently was "slew" as in "a whole slew of ..."  Which then led
us into slay - slew and then I don't remember how but on to got
and gotten.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:41:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13835
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 20:41:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000EA114@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 2:59:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12618520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 02:59:12 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g636xCI13270 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 02:59:12 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6372fv01169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:02:41
          +0200
References: <v03130306b9482231e574@[66.237.73.58]>
            <20020703034353.2A24C7E44@yellow.rahul.net>
            <v03130307b9482a18c0d7@[66.237.73.58]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020703090241.B1122@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:02:41 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130307b9482a18c0d7@[66.237.73.58]>; from bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM
              on Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 09:22:41PM -0700

= >
= >What is the convential pronunciation of "faugh"?
= >
= >Karen
=
= What is the conventional pronunciation of those clicking sounds in Xhosa?
= It's close to pointless to try describing the sound of "faugh" because
= English just doesn't use that sound anywhere else.  M-W describes it as "a
= strong p-sound or lip trill".  You might try going to www.m-w.com and
= checking their audio pronunciation if your computer is somewhat less
= obsolescent than mine.
=

They make it sound like how I would pronounce it if I were saying
it in Dutch which is what that k_ is.  (only I can't think of any
au words in Dutch right now except the borrowed "uberhaupt")

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:46:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13868
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 20:46:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E53C4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 2:58:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12618791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 03:04:14 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6374DI14032 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 03:04:13 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <MYWW170K>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:04:12 +0200
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Message-ID:  <1C5C11BC642AD41199DA00508BA5451F7A8EB1@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:04:11 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I have never heard this.

Espen - in Graz, writing on a qwertz-keyboard

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 21:09:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA14000
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 27 May 1960 21:09:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E53E22@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 3:21:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12619208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 03:27:00 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g637R0I15370 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 03:27:00 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g637UTY01261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:30:29
          +0200
References: <20020702192253.9A58386A9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D223170.E6448724@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020703093029.A1251@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:30:29 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D223170.E6448724@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Tue,
              Jul 02, 2002 at 06:04:16PM -0500

=
= Is the airport in Amsterdam involved?  I think I'll be there Aug. 3.
=  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Let me know!

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 00:05:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14435
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 00:05:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000EA889@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 6:22:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12622439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 06:22:47 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63AMkI26076 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 06:22:46 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws94-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.94]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63AMhQ19221
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:22:44 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207022219440.9084-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D22D070.195B97F9@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:22:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> I never heard of it.  OK this is a poll:  who else here (besides Adam and
> I suppose Pete and I suppose Steph and I guess I suppose Anne) know this
> word?

I'm interested in your list of those you are supposing know the word --
as in why those names?  In answer to your question -- oops -- I don't
have anything to contribute in answer to it since I just realized that
your poll is asking for those who do know the word.  I don't know it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 00:07:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14446
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 00:07:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000EA89A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 6:24:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12622478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 06:24:23 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63AONI26129 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 06:24:23 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws94-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.94]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63AOKQ19377
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:24:21 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <v03130306b9482231e574@[66.237.73.58]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D22D0D1.C1BC29F6@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:24:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bookrat wrote:

> Then again, for all I know, it might be in a class with "psst", "faugh",

What's faugh?  As in when is it used?  I don't know it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 00:10:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14455
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 00:10:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000EA8B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 6:28:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12622519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 06:28:04 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63AS4I26276 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 06:28:04 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws94-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.94]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63AS2Q19830
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:28:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2192A8.E8310892@maynor.net>
            <v03130301b948176d5de3@[66.237.73.78]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D22D1AF.D926A66D@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:27:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bookrat wrote:

> Suppose that Joe and Jim are first cousins, and that they both have
> children.  The children are, mutually, second cousins.

This is what I said yesterday that Marie said she didn't think was
correct.  But I'm confident that it is in fact correct.

> Clear as mud?

I do think the system is clear.  That doesn't mean that it doesn't take
some effort to think through the relationships when figuring out that
somebody is your third cousin eight times removed or some such.  But the
basic working of the system seems clear enough to me.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 00:17:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14474
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 00:17:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E54213@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 6:29:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12622561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 06:34:36 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63AYaI26530 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 06:34:36 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws94-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.94]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63AYYQ20545
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:34:34 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <v03130306b9482231e574@[66.237.73.58]> from Bookrat at "Jul 2,
            2002  8:42:33 pm" <v03130307b9482a18c0d7@[66.237.73.58]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D22D336.89582C2B@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:34:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bookrat wrote:

> It's close to pointless to try describing the sound of "faugh" because
> English just doesn't use that sound anywhere else.  M-W describes it as "a
> strong p-sound or lip trill".  You might try going to www.m-w.com and

Ohhh.  I think I know the sound you're talking about -- letting air push
open your lips slightly.  That seems to be what the MW description is
indicating.  If so, I find the rendering of it as "faugh" extremely
weird.

> "Tsk" is much the same; I think "tch" is perhaps more imitative of the
> sound, but basically it's a cluck, and English is not a language given to
> clucking.

"Tsk" stirkes me as closer to the sound it represents than does "faugh,"
but that might be because we see "tsk" written so often that we get used
to it at an early age.  I still think it's closer, though.  Try
pronouncing [tsk] but while sucking in.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 00:21:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14481
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 00:21:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E54225@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 6:33:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12622620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 06:38:19 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63AcII26713 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 06:38:18 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws94-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.94]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63AcGQ21015
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:38:17 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702192253.9A58386A9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D223170.E6448724@maynor.net>
            <20020703093029.A1251@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D22D415.E1DEF773@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:38:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:
>
> =
> = Is the airport in Amsterdam involved?  I think I'll be there Aug. 3.
> =  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
> Let me know!

I'm pretty sure that when I first bought the ticket I noticed almost no
time in Amsterdam.  I think we talked about it then.  But that's in the
time period of memory cells that get lost.  If I can remember where I
put the ticket, I'll check it when I get up to pour the second cup of
coffee.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 00:30:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14496
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 00:30:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E542F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 6:42:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12623134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 06:47:42 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63AlgI27679 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 06:47:42 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws64-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.64]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63AleQ22117
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:47:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D22D649.E84309D@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:47:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Schiphol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

My memory was correct -- not much visiting time likely in Amsterdam.

Aug. 3 -- arr AMS 7:05 a.m., lv AMS 9:10 a.m
Aug. 13 -- arr AMS 3:05 p.m., lv AMS 4:25 p.m.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 00:34:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14507
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 00:34:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000EA988@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 6:51:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12623210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 06:51:26 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63ApQI27916 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 06:51:26 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws64-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.64]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63ApOQ22575
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:51:24 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D22D729.BBD5E16E@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:51:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      DORIS-S!!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Are you reading, Doris Smith?  HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 01:01:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14536
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 01:01:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E54390@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 7:12:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12623617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 07:18:08 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe35.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.92]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63BI8I10454 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 07:18:08 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 04:18:02 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
References:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207022219440.9084-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 11:18:02.0717 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[4BC6B8D0:01C22283]
Message-ID:  <OE35QLVpSlSt7IZfSp1000009d9@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 06:17:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Woot is used lots in the online gaming world. It is commonly typed without
the exclamation point, to show coolness, as in "I'm such a big game stud, I
don't even put exclamation points after my exclamatory words."

-aht

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Borkin" <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
To: <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:22 PM
Subject: Woot!


> God it took me forever to determine that this word basically means a
> cheer, like yay.
>
> That Adam used it in an off-list music e-mail.
>
> I never heard of it.  OK this is a poll:  who else here (besides Adam and
> I suppose Pete and I suppose Steph and I guess I suppose Anne) know this
> word?
>
> Ann
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 01:07:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14545
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 01:07:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E543B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 7:19:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12623719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 07:24:56 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe56.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.191]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63BOtI11103 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 07:24:55 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 04:24:50 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 11:24:50.0522 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[3ED8D3A0:01C22284]
Message-ID:  <OE56pqZYoL1ML5GiQbK00003f81@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 06:26:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Woot is used lots in the online gaming world. It is commonly typed without
the exclamation point, to show coolness, as in "I'm such a big game stud, I
don't even put exclamation points after my exclamatory words."


>-aht

There's an off-list dissertation just begging to be written about online
<utterances.>

AS, woot, indeed

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 01:54:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14598
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 01:54:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5456D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 8:05:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12624887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 08:11:14 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63CBEI15103 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:11:14 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15202 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:11:13 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 3 Jul 02
          08:11:13 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 3 Jul 02 08:07:52 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D22B0D5.24071.E67D9@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:07:50 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: easily amused
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D222A0F.619A1BCA@maynor.net>

 There are a thousand obstacles in the way - upon which I will not
elaborate at the moment - but Steve and I cling to the belief that we
belong together and that the rest of the world will have to
acknowledge that fact eventually.

BrP



> >   I'm on a Canadian Immigration discussion list. There is occasional
>
> How are your plans going?
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 01:54:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14600
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 01:54:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000EAD10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 8:11:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12624892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 08:11:15 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63CBEI15108 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:11:14 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15207 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:11:13 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 3 Jul 02
          08:11:13 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 3 Jul 02 08:05:03 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D22B02D.26761.BD3B1@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:05:01 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <002c01c22210$a4975f00$6601a8c0@earthlink.net>

> > Hey.  I learned a new and useful word today.
> >
> > epicene
>
> Hey, those are my friends you're talking about, buddy. ;)
>
> Janet

Mine too. That's why the word is useful.

I was surprised to discover a word I should have known before. I
shared it with one of my TG friends last night - who had never heard
it before either.

BrP
-always delighted by learning something new

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 01:54:09 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14609
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 01:54:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17026
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 06:59:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000EAD11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 8:11:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12624896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 08:11:17 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63CBGI15114 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:11:16 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15225 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:11:16 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 3 Jul 02
          08:11:16 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 3 Jul 02 08:10:43 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D22B180.2804.110241@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:10:40 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207022219440.9084-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

I do now.  Thank you.

BrP




> I never heard of it.  OK this is a poll:  who else here (besides Adam and
> I suppose Pete and I suppose Steph and I guess I suppose Anne) know this
> word?
>
> Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 02:31:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14679
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 02:31:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E548DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 8:43:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12626921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 08:49:02 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63Cn2I19905 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:49:02 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23999 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:49:01 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 3 Jul 02
          08:49:02 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 3 Jul 02 08:46:15 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D223D09.6070503@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 2,
            2002  6:53:45 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D22B9D1.22368.B8288@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:46:09 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      ask you
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020703004532.A6AD37DDA@yellow.rahul.net>

 A friend of mine is collecting interesting words meaning "askew"
(caddywampus is one).  Anyone have any interesting ones?

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 02:44:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14705
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 02:44:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E54A30@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 8:56:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12627900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 09:01:35 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63D1ZI22362 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:01:35 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020703130130.SRMO6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:01:30 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020703004532.A6AD37DDA@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D223D09.6070503@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020703055503.021c3d90@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:58:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: ask you
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D22B9D1.22368.B8288@localhost>

Paul R. Barfoot writes,

>(caddywampus is one)

Interestingly, I'd spell this "cattywumpus," which indeed gets more Google
hits than your friend's spelling.  Google spell-check then suggests
"cattywampus," which gets even more.

The only relative I can think of right now is "kitty-corner," which is
close to meaning "askew," but slightly askew of it, as it were.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 02:47:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14717
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 02:47:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E54A7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 8:59:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12628123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 09:04:28 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63D4SI23061 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:04:28 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020703130422.OBAH903.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:04:22 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020703060036.021c85f0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 06:01:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: ask you
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Hmm, as soon as I clicked "Send," I got "off-kilter."

:)

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 02:48:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14724
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 02:48:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E54A93@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 8:59:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12628187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 09:05:17 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f258.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.133]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63D5HI23203 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:05:17 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 06:05:11 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 03
          Jul 2002 13:05:11 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 13:05:11.0726 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[43C3A4E0:01C22292]
Message-ID:  <F258f3ednHM3SOlbpH700001a0b@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:05:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: ask you
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

akimbo, as in "arms akimbo."


>From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: ask you
>Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:46:09 EDT
>
>  A friend of mine is collecting interesting words meaning "askew"
>(caddywampus is one).  Anyone have any interesting ones?
>
>BrP




_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 03:01:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14736
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 03:01:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E54C9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 9:13:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12629262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 09:18:44 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63D8iI25280 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:08:44 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g63D8hOI006593 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:08:43 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207030907230.25714-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:08:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ask you
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020703055503.021c3d90@mail.istori.com>

kitty-cornered or catty-cornered
anti-gogglin, slaunch-wise/slaunch-ways (see the video "American
Tongues," which also has "off the perpendicular")

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 03:27:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16155
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 03:27:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E54F72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 9:39:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12632368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 09:44:54 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63DirI32479 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:44:53 -0400
Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu
          (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63DiqQ27001 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:44:52 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D22B0D5.24071.E67D9@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D22FFD3.2A293122@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:44:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: easily amused
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:

> belong together and that the rest of the world will have to
> acknowledge that fact eventually.

Yes!

--
   -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 03:29:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16163
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 03:28:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E54F85@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 9:40:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12632423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 09:46:07 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63Dk7I32686 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:46:07 -0400
Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu
          (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63Dk5Q27290 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:46:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D223D09.6070503@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 2,
            2002  6:53:45 pm" <3D22B9D1.22368.B8288@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D23001D.9D3DB9A1@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:46:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: ask you
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:

>  A friend of mine is collecting interesting words meaning "askew"
> (caddywampus is one).  Anyone have any interesting ones?

antigogglin, out of kilter
--
   -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 03:30:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16172
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 03:30:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E54F9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 9:41:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12632500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 09:47:16 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63DlGI00415 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:47:16 -0400
Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu
          (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63DlFQ27571 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:47:15 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020703004532.A6AD37DDA@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D223D09.6070503@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020703055503.021c3d90@mail.istori.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D230063.BB7209E4@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:47:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: ask you
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Kaminski wrote:

> The only relative I can think of right now is "kitty-corner," which is
> close to meaning "askew," but slightly askew of it, as it were.

I don't think of catty-cornered as being all that close to askew.  I think of
it as a simple directional term.

--
   -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 03:33:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16184
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 03:33:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E54FDD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 9:44:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12632716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 09:50:11 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63DoAI00829 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:50:11 -0400
Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu
          (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63Do1Q28298 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:50:01 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D23010A.7CCF80F1@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:50:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Goo-Gone
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

My office reeks of Goo-Gone right now.  I was trying to get stickers off
of filing cabinets -- or at least some of them.  I'm leaving a few but
was trying to get rid of James Dean, "Abuse an animal and go to jail,"
etc. etc.  In their place now I have huge gashes left by the screwdriver
I was scraping with.  Anyway, without Goo-Gone I could never have
accomplished what I did accomplish.  But the smell sure is powerful at
the moment.

One sticker that came off smoothly without Goo-Gone is my Words-L bumper
sticker.  I have it stuck on a small box now to take home.  I bet I
could stick it on my bumper.

--
   -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 03:45:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16218
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 03:45:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000EB75F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:02:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12634127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 10:02:29 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63E2TI03357 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:02:29 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.66.169]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYOEYC01.6IB for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 07:01:24 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD   (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020703020437.601118695@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2303A6.233F6B21@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 07:01:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Organization: Mesa Community College
Subject:      Re: Joline Blon's Bounce
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> A sharp nod of the head, as in greeting?

    Dunno.  Both instances were between antagonists, so I'm inclined to think
its more along the lines of averting eyes by glancing away.  (From "cut
direct", maybe?)

Wootless in Mesa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 03:45:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16222
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 03:45:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5516B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 9:57:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12634135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 10:02:34 -0400
Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net
          [207.217.120.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g63E2YI03367 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          10:02:34 -0400
Received: from user-vcaumla.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.90.170] helo=verdie)
          by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id
          17PkiG-00076N-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 03 Jul 2002
          10:02:32 -0400
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207022219440.9084-100000@og1.olagrande.net> 
            <3D22D070.195B97F9@maynor.net>
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600
Message-ID:  <006e01c2229a$5a1aa9c0$6601a8c0@earthlink.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 07:03:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Organization: Greenery Press
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Ann Borkin wrote:
>
> > I never heard of it.  OK this is a poll:  who else here (besides Adam
and
> > I suppose Pete and I suppose Steph and I guess I suppose Anne) know this
> > word?
>
> I'm interested in your list of those you are supposing know the word --
> as in why those names?  In answer to your question -- oops -- I don't
> have anything to contribute in answer to it since I just realized that
> your poll is asking for those who do know the word.  I don't know it.

Me neither.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 04:03:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16235
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 04:03:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E55432@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:15:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12635996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 10:21:04 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63EL3I07124 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:21:03 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g63EL37Y017068 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          10:21:03 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <001501c2229c$dcd19340$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:21:03 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: naming
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a05010419b947e0e10923@[192.168.1.100]>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Janet Hardy
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 7:01 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: naming
>
>
> Some friends of mine just named their new baby Jerome Birkner. Is
> that not the nerdiest name in the history of names, or what? It just
> seems somehow made for whining.
>
> Janet
>

It is nerdy. My brother in law is named Jerome. He uses Jerry. It sounds
a little better


alec

------------
Alec D. Plotkin
plotkina@isc.upenn.edu
"Any smoothly functioning technology will have the appearance of magic."
- Arthur C. Clarke

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 04:20:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16652
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 04:20:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E55665@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:32:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12637584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 10:37:28 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63EbSO10624 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:37:28 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust100.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.102]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004975772@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 10:37:23 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIEMKFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D230BAF.FF604C79@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:35:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Saturday
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:
> >
> I'll probably be in the tall-chairs section halfway up the hill Stage
> Murray, right by the side path that goes all the way up the hill.

I remind all campers that I am not far distant from the event and that
visitors are welcome.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 04:32:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16687
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 04:32:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E557AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:44:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12638540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 10:49:25 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63EnPO12516 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:49:25 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g63EnO7Y390680 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          10:49:24 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 5 (Lowest)
X-MSMail-Priority: Low
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Low
Message-ID:  <002201c222a0$d1684ae0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:49:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      July 4th
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

USA people,

Happy Independence Day. My your fireworks be wonderful, your hotdog be
tasty and be surrounded by good friends.


alec


------------
Alec D. Plotkin
plotkina@isc.upenn.edu

"Peace cannot be kept by force.  It can only be achieved by
understanding" - Albert Einstein

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 05:00:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16719
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 05:00:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E55BB9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:12:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12641577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 11:17:43 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f120.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.120]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63FHgO19052 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:17:43 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 08:17:37 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          03 Jul 2002 15:17:37 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 15:17:37.0532 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C3D56BC0:01C222A4]
Message-ID:  <F120ajmDQ4IXqXSz3LU00005a9c@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:17:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
>I hate feeling hungry.

In a strange way, I sort of like it. I figure my body won't start burning
fat until I start withholding calories.

>I have a pair of 2-year-old running shoes.  If I keep it up
>for a week, I've promised myself a new pair.

I bought a nice pair of Adidas running shoes last year and decided that
meant that I must get my money's worth out of them. Now that I have, I can
stop. Not.

My street, BTW, is not flat. It's a killer.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 05:08:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16730
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 05:08:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E55CA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:19:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12642397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 11:25:17 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f228.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.228]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63FPHO21045 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:25:17 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 08:25:11 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          03 Jul 2002 15:25:11 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 15:25:11.0831 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[D29DF270:01C222A5]
Message-ID:  <F228B03gurqHpjyeOrz00005bd3@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:25:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
>Bookrat wrote:
> > Suppose that Joe and Jim are first cousins, and that they both have
> > children.  The children are, mutually, second cousins.
>
>This is what I said yesterday that Marie said she didn't think was
>correct.  But I'm confident that it is in fact correct.

Okay, but your definition wasn't clear. I believe you said, when asked what
second cousins are, "Children of first cousins." Which I read as meaning
that the children of my first cousins were my second cousins. Which is not
the case -- that's the "once removed" bit. Bookrat evidently meant the same
thing as you, but was very clear in his definition.

Marie


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 05:17:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16750
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 05:17:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E55DB4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:29:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12643172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 11:34:37 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63FYaO22812 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:34:36 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g63FYY701982 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:34:35 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031028040.1843-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:34:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D22D070.195B97F9@maynor.net>

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> I'm interested in your list of those you are supposing know the word --
> as in why those names?

Because I figured (after googling) that it was a gaming word, therefore a
computer word.  I should of course have thought of -=+Tushar+=- as well,
and Karen I suppose although I wonder why she thinks I should have been
acquainted with it.

Somewhere there's a site selling t-shirts with Woot!  Woot! on them, also
wtf.  Too unseemly for me of course but I'm thinking that Alyce might like
a Woot! Woot! t-shirt.

:)

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 05:19:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16757
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 05:19:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E55DF0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:31:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12643369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 11:37:01 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g63Fb1O23383 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:37:01
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-205-89.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.205.89]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g63Fb0A310502 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          11:37:00 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEFAFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:36:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130301b948176d5de3@[66.237.73.78]>

I got it!!! Thank you :)

Sandra
>
> >Refresh me: what are "second cousins"?
> >
> >Andrasay
>
> "First", "second", etc., all refer to people at the same generational
> level.  The "removed" label indicates different generations.
>
> Suppose that Joe and Jim are first cousins, and that they both have
> children.  The children are, mutually, second cousins.  Meanwhile, Joe's
> children and Jim are, mutually, first cousins once removed, as are Jim's
> children and Joe.
>
> When those children themselves have children, those children will all be
> third cousins.  They will also be either Joe's or Jim's first
> cousins twice
> removed.
>
> Clear as mud?
>
> Ken Miller
> Genealogic Correspondent
> The Lostin Times
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 05:20:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16764
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 05:20:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E55E01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:32:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12643440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 11:38:03 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63Fc3O23642 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:38:03 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g63Fc1u02200 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:38:01 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031035550.2125-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:38:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020703002615.A541@pobox.com>

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:

> This is most unsightly.

I think it is very sightly to have all those Woot! s lined up in my Pine
inbox.  Reminds me of the Reflux Vomit and Tough Turds?  days.

Sorry everybody I'm posting drunk again.

Ann
8:37 a.m.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 05:23:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16768
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 05:23:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000EC0DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:40:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12643676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 11:40:15 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g63FeFO24288 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:40:15
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-205-89.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.205.89]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g63FeEA258242 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          11:40:14 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEFAFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:39:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Goo-Gone
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D23010A.7CCF80F1@maynor.net>

What did the bumper sticker say?

I lent a bottle of Goo-Gone to my friend/neighbor who now cannot remember
borrowing it. Hmmm. Were she not such a good, dependable and ethical friend,
I'd question that. All I know is I have to buy myself another bottle. It's
great stuff.

Sandra

> My office reeks of Goo-Gone right now.  I was trying to get stickers off
> of filing cabinets -- or at least some of them.  I'm leaving a few but
> was trying to get rid of James Dean, "Abuse an animal and go to jail,"
> etc. etc.  In their place now I have huge gashes left by the screwdriver
> I was scraping with.  Anyway, without Goo-Gone I could never have
> accomplished what I did accomplish.  But the smell sure is powerful at
> the moment.
>
> One sticker that came off smoothly without Goo-Gone is my Words-L bumper
> sticker.  I have it stuck on a small box now to take home.  I bet I
> could stick it on my bumper.
>
> --
>    -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 05:29:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16772
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 05:29:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E55F2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:40:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12644455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 11:46:15 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g63FkFO25819 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:46:15
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-205-89.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.205.89]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g63FkEA124538 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          11:46:14 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEFBFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:45:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: naming
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <001501c2229c$dcd19340$48305b80@EAGLE72>

A friend from my high school years (Chinese) married a nice Irish guy.
They've taken to giving their children (2) Chinese first names (not sure if
it's Cantonese or Mandarin) and the Irish translation of the first name as a
middle name.

So the son is: Tadhg (pronounced T'-eye-g) See Nolan and the daughter is
Emer (pronounced ee'-mer) Luk-jyu (Look You) Nolan.

I'm feeling for the kids.

OTOH, my MOFW's last name is Mush. So, how serious can I let this get ?  ;)

Sandra

> > Some friends of mine just named their new baby Jerome Birkner. Is
> > that not the nerdiest name in the history of names, or what? It just
> > seems somehow made for whining.
> >
> > Janet
> >
>
> It is nerdy. My brother in law is named Jerome. He uses Jerry. It sounds
> a little better
>
>
> alec
>
> ------------
> Alec D. Plotkin
> plotkina@isc.upenn.edu
> "Any smoothly functioning technology will have the appearance of magic."
> - Arthur C. Clarke
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 05:30:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16785
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 05:30:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E55F64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:42:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12644586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 11:47:45 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63FliO26136 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:47:44 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust127.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.129]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003669654@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 11:47:30 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020703060036.021c85f0@mail.istori.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D231C18.9302CB16@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:45:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: ask you
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Kaminski wrote:
>
> Hmm, as soon as I clicked "Send," I got "off-kilter."

also "out of kilter."

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 05:32:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16789
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 05:32:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000EC20C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:49:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12644789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 11:49:43 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f206.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.206]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63FnhO26458 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:49:43 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 08:49:38 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          03 Jul 2002 15:49:37 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 15:49:38.0048 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[3C8CE800:01C222A9]
Message-ID:  <F206BjBRHwLozf2QPLn0000251a@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:49:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: July 4th
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
>USA people,
>
>Happy Independence Day. My your fireworks be wonderful, your hotdog be
>tasty and be surrounded by good friends.

My grandfather died on July 4, eating a hot dog, watching the Phillies. I
believe he died happy.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 05:37:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16804
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 05:37:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E56037@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:48:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12645264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 11:54:06 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f293.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.168]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63Fs6O27345 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:54:06 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 08:54:01 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          03 Jul 2002 15:54:00 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 15:54:01.0307 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[D9770AB0:01C222A9]
Message-ID:  <F293iMvYofF49PCFKQw00005b42@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:54:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Since it's a poll: I've seen it online -- here, several times, I'm sure.
Anne Toal would probably have been the user. And in context it made sense as
an exclamation of a positive discovery.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 05:39:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16822
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 05:39:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E56095@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:51:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12645521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 11:56:38 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63FucO27870 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:56:38 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g63Fub727576
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:56:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F120ajmDQ4IXqXSz3LU00005a9c@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D232039.E0516E02@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:03:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> >From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
> >I hate feeling hungry.
>
> In a strange way, I sort of like it. I figure my body won't start burning
> fat until I start withholding calories.

I don't think it works that way.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 05:42:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16826
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 05:42:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000EC327@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:59:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12645765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 11:59:24 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f203.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.203]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63FxNO28352 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:59:24 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 08:59:18 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          03 Jul 2002 15:59:18 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 15:59:18.0364 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[967219C0:01C222AA]
Message-ID:  <F203oNEGlPN7L7peSsp00005baa@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:59:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Woot is used lots in the online gaming world. It is commonly typed without
>the exclamation point, to show coolness, as in "I'm such a big game stud, I
>don't even put exclamation points after my exclamatory words."

Yeah yeah woot whatever

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 06:31:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA16891
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 06:31:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5656E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 12:43:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12649821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 12:48:29 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63GmTO04699 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 12:48:29 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g63Gq0702238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:52:00
          +0200
References: <20020703002615.A541@pobox.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031035550.2125-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020703185200.A2227@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:52:00 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031035550.2125-100000@og1.olagrande.net>; from
              aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET on Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 10:38:01AM -0500

=
= Sorry everybody I'm posting drunk again.
=
= Ann
= 8:37 a.m.

What is that, left over from last night?

steph
having an after work whiskey

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 06:59:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17040
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 06:59:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E567F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:11:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12651641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 13:16:48 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63HGlO08560 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:16:47 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 751527C58; Wed,  3
          Jul 2002 10:16:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020703171646.751527C58@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:16:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: ask you
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F258f3ednHM3SOlbpH700001a0b@hotmail.com> from Anne Toal at "Jul
              3, 2002  8: 5:11 am"

Anne Toal said:
> akimbo, as in "arms akimbo."

akimbo doesn't mean askew.

> >From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
> >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >Subject: ask you
> >Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:46:09 EDT
> >
> >  A friend of mine is collecting interesting words meaning "askew"
> >(caddywampus is one).  Anyone have any interesting ones?
> >
> >BrP
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
>

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:01:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17053
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 07:01:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E56833@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:13:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12651832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 13:18:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63HIpO08913 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:18:51 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AD0EF7FDE; Wed,  3
          Jul 2002 10:18:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020703171850.AD0EF7FDE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:18:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Joline Blon's Bounce
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2303A6.233F6B21@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at
              "Jul 3, 2002  7: 1:10 am"

John Williams said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > A sharp nod of the head, as in greeting?
>
>     Dunno.  Both instances were between antagonists, so I'm inclined to think
> its more along the lines of averting eyes by glancing away.  (From "cut
> direct", maybe?)

I don't think they'd not acknowledge each other. They are Southern,
after all.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:06:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17061
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 07:06:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E568A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:17:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12652190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 13:23:11 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63HNBO09712 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:23:11 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B95D67D26; Wed,  3
          Jul 2002 10:23:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020703172310.B95D67D26@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:23:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031028040.1843-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 3, 2002 10:34:34 am"

Ann Borkin said:
> Because I figured (after googling) that it was a gaming word, therefore a
> computer word.  I should of course have thought of -=+Tushar+=- as well,
> and Karen I suppose although I wonder why she thinks I should have been
> acquainted with it.

Because I think of it as common.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:07:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17073
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 07:07:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E568E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:19:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12652462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 13:24:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63HOpO10179 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:24:51 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id ED9F47FDE; Wed,  3
          Jul 2002 10:24:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020703172450.ED9F47FDE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:24:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D232039.E0516E02@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 3,
              2002  9: 3: 5 am"

Betty said:
> Marie Ascher wrote:
> >
> > >From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
> > >I hate feeling hungry.
> >
> > In a strange way, I sort of like it. I figure my body won't start burning
> > fat until I start withholding calories.
>
> I don't think it works that way.

Me, neither.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:18:31 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17107
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 07:18:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000ECCFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:35:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12653389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 13:35:32 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63HZWO12310 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:35:32 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g63HZW7Y165010 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          13:35:32 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000401c222b8$081d9b00$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:35:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020703185200.A2227@yoccoz.multinix.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of steph
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 12:52 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Woot!
>
>
> =
> = Sorry everybody I'm posting drunk again.
> =
> = Ann
> = 8:37 a.m.
>
> What is that, left over from last night?
>
> steph
> having an after work whiskey
>

That is an Alan Wild thing to do, post to Words-l drunk.
I wish I was not at work.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:18:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17114
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 07:18:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E569E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:30:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12653476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 13:35:57 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g63HZvO12528 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:35:57
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-205-89.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.205.89]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g63HZuA225346 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          13:35:56 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEFEFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:35:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020703172450.ED9F47FDE@yellow.rahul.net>

It was explained to me once this way: You have to feed the fire that burns
the fuel.

Sandra

> Betty said:
> > Marie Ascher wrote:
> > >
> > > >From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
> > > >I hate feeling hungry.
> > >
> > > In a strange way, I sort of like it. I figure my body won't
> start burning
> > > fat until I start withholding calories.
> >
> > I don't think it works that way.
>
> Me, neither.
>
> Karen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:20:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17119
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 07:20:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E56A00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:32:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12653541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 13:37:20 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f183.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.183]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63HbKO12759 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:37:20 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 10:37:15 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          03 Jul 2002 17:37:14 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 17:37:15.0237 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[4555C150:01C222B8]
Message-ID:  <F183D9Eg6mn1b2Yu6s900005d95@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:37:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
>Looks like I'm going to be in NY from 7/5-7/9. I've got a few
>speaking commitments, but am pretty much at loose ends. Anybody up
>for a meal?

I'm not going to be in the city any of those days. I don't supoose you'd
wanna come up to the burbs?

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:28:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17130
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 07:28:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E56AAF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:39:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12654154 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 13:45:08 -0400
Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63Hj7O14133 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:45:08 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.1] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYO00MKHPB7CY@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 03 Jul 2002 10:45:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
References: <F183D9Eg6mn1b2Yu6s900005d95@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <a04310100b948e8fe8fff@[192.168.1.1]>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:46:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F183D9Eg6mn1b2Yu6s900005d95@hotmail.com>

>>From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
>>Looks like I'm going to be in NY from 7/5-7/9. I've got a few
>>speaking commitments, but am pretty much at loose ends. Anybody up
>>for a meal?
>
>I'm not going to be in the city any of those days. I don't supoose you'd
>wanna come up to the burbs?

How long a ride is it, and on what transportation?

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:31:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17142
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 07:31:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E56AFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:43:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12654488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 13:48:48 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63HmlO14971 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:48:47 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g63Hmkn04446;
          Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:48:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:55:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Order now.  Order often!  Natalie, you can even have long sleeves!

Thanks go to mem, Ken, and Pete for working on this.


 http://www.cafepress.com/batfest

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:34:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17153
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 07:34:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E56B49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:46:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12654785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 13:51:44 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f66.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.66]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63HpiO15751 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:51:44 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 10:51:38 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          03 Jul 2002 17:51:38 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 17:51:38.0570 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[47EBEAA0:01C222BA]
Message-ID:  <F66lxlk30IaFYYtfPZH00005d32@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:51:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Let's get it straight; it's not as if I'm starving myself. My body never
gets a chance to get to that point. My fire gets fed, believe me.

There have been recent articles about a hormone, ghrelin (?) an appetite,
which has been shown to elevate in people who are dieting. Therefore, you
are likely to feel hungry before you really NEED food. What Rita needs is a
drug that blocks that hormone. They are working on it.

Marie


>From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
>It was explained to me once this way: You have to feed the fire that burns
>the fuel.
>
>Sandra
>
> > Betty said:
> > > Marie Ascher wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
> > > > >I hate feeling hungry.
> > > >
> > > > In a strange way, I sort of like it. I figure my body won't
> > start burning
> > > > fat until I start withholding calories.
> > >
> > > I don't think it works that way.
> >
> > Me, neither.
> >
> > Karen
> >




Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:37:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17162
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 07:37:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E56B9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:49:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12655318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 13:54:46 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63HskO16935 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:54:46 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g63HwIj02340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:58:18
          +0200
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020703195818.B2227@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:58:18 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>; from
              bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU on Wed, Jul 03,
              2002 at 10:55:14AM -0700

On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 10:55:14AM -0700, Betty wrote:
= Order now.  Order often!  Natalie, you can even have long sleeves!
=
= Thanks go to mem, Ken, and Pete for working on this.
=
=
=  http://www.cafepress.com/batfest

Yay!  I, for some reason, decided not to suggest this.  Hmmmm.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:38:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17169
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 07:38:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E56BA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:49:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12655332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 13:55:14 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63HtEO16980 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:55:14 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc69 ([204.127.198.52]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020703175508.VMHS903.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:55:08 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc69; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 17:55:07 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020703175508.VMHS903.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:55:07 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Done!

lisa
who hasn't had a words-l item since farm-fest (which
wasn't what it was called but I can't remember the real
name of it).
> Order now.  Order often!  Natalie, you can even have long sleeves!
>
> Thanks go to mem, Ken, and Pete for working on this.
>
>
>  http://www.cafepress.com/batfest

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:38:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17173
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 07:38:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E56BA3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:50:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12655341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 13:55:21 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63HtLO16994 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:55:21 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26366 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:55:19 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 3 Jul 02
          13:55:20 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 3 Jul 02 13:53:55 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <20020703172450.ED9F47FDE@yellow.rahul.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D2301F1.7623.2D2C50@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:53:54 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEFEFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

but what the fire burns is the fuel you feed it


> It was explained to me once this way: You have to feed the fire that burns
> the fuel.
>
> Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:39:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17177
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 07:39:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E56BBF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:50:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12655447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 13:56:16 -0400
Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63HuGO17134 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:56:16 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.1] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYO001A4PT3ON@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 03 Jul 2002 10:55:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
References: <F66lxlk30IaFYYtfPZH00005d32@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <a04310103b948eb692140@[192.168.1.1]>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:57:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F66lxlk30IaFYYtfPZH00005d32@hotmail.com>

>Let's get it straight; it's not as if I'm starving myself. My body never
>gets a chance to get to that point. My fire gets fed, believe me.
>
>There have been recent articles about a hormone, ghrelin (?) an appetite,
>which has been shown to elevate in people who are dieting. Therefore, you
>are likely to feel hungry before you really NEED food. What Rita needs is a
>drug that blocks that hormone. They are working on it.

It's difficult to distinguish between "phantom" hunger pangs and the
real thing. My experience is that if you tough it out for half an
hour or so, the phantom ones disappear but the real ones don't.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:39:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17181
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 07:39:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E56BC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:51:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12655464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 13:56:22 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f228.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.228]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63HuLO17160 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:56:21 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 10:56:16 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          03 Jul 2002 17:56:16 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 17:56:16.0389 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[ED83BB50:01C222BA]
Message-ID:  <F228TI7w72ryLKVXzrF00005efb@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:56:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
>>>From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
>>>Looks like I'm going to be in NY from 7/5-7/9. I've got a few
>>>speaking commitments, but am pretty much at loose ends. Anybody up
>>>for a meal?
>>
>>I'm not going to be in the city any of those days. I don't supoose you'd
>>wanna come up to the burbs?
>
>How long a ride is it, and on what transportation?

Well, there's several things we could do depending on your schedule. If you
were to come all the way up to my neighborhood, it's 50 minutes from Grand
Central on Metro North. It's a nice train ride along the Hudson.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:41:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17185
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 07:41:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E56C17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:52:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12655775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 13:58:08 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f210.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.210]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63Hw8O17720 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:58:08 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 10:58:03 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          03 Jul 2002 17:58:02 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 17:58:03.0010 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[2D10CE20:01C222BB]
Message-ID:  <F210NrygVVSmSbVm2sM00005c69@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:58:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Wordstock, Lisa! Remember Kennywood? (That was a great day)

Marie

>From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
>Done!
>
>lisa
>who hasn't had a words-l item since farm-fest (which
>wasn't what it was called but I can't remember the real
>name of it).
> > Order now.  Order often!  Natalie, you can even have long sleeves!
> >
> > Thanks go to mem, Ken, and Pete for working on this.
> >
> >
> >  http://www.cafepress.com/batfest




Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:57:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17218
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 07:57:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000ED0CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:14:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12657218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 14:14:04 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63IE4O20570 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:14:04 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g63IE47Y206470 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          14:14:04 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000001c222bd$6a8b1ba0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:14:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Betty
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: BatFest T-shirts
>
>
> Order now.  Order often!  Natalie, you can even have long sleeves!
>
> Thanks go to mem, Ken, and Pete for working on this.
>
>
 http://www.cafepress.com/batfest

Done!


Thanks for the effort. I always need a another t-shirt.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 08:00:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17231
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 08:00:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000ED126@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:17:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12657433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 14:17:50 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63IHoO21038 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:17:50 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g63IHnn13711
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:17:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020703195818.B2227@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D234151.ECC651B1@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:24:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 10:55:14AM -0700, Betty wrote:
> = Order now.  Order often!  Natalie, you can even have long sleeves!
> =
> = Thanks go to mem, Ken, and Pete for working on this.
> =
> =
> =  http://www.cafepress.com/batfest
>
> Yay!  I, for some reason, decided not to suggest this.  Hmmmm.

Why didn't you want to suggest it? Do you think it is whorish enough for
Marie?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 08:03:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17235
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 08:03:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E56F13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:15:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12657683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 14:20:57 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63IKvO21499 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:20:57 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc56 ([204.127.198.45]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020703182051.LSNV15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:20:51 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc56; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 18:20:48 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020703182051.LSNV15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:20:48 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

There's another factor related to hunger pains and that's
thirst. Our sense of thirst is so weak that if your body
gets dehydrated and you don't water yourself it will
eventually single hunger in an attempt to get you to
hydrate.

lisa
> >Let's get it straight; it's not as if I'm starving myself. My body never
> >gets a chance to get to that point. My fire gets fed, believe me.
> >
> >There have been recent articles about a hormone, ghrelin (?) an appetite,
> >which has been shown to elevate in people who are dieting. Therefore, you
> >are likely to feel hungry before you really NEED food. What Rita needs is a
> >drug that blocks that hormone. They are working on it.
>
> It's difficult to distinguish between "phantom" hunger pangs and the
> real thing. My experience is that if you tough it out for half an
> hour or so, the phantom ones disappear but the real ones don't.
>
> Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 08:06:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17242
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 08:06:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E56F64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:17:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12657855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 14:23:19 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63INIO21801 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:23:19 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc55 ([204.127.198.44]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020703182313.LUCZ15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:23:13 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc55; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 18:23:13 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020703182313.LUCZ15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:23:13 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I do remember Kennywood. As a matter of fact Marie you
were the first person I thought of when I was trying to
come up with the name of the fest! And yes, it was a
great day... despite me crushing you on that upside down,
around and around ride.

lisa
> Wordstock, Lisa! Remember Kennywood? (That was a great day)
>
> Marie
>
> >From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
> >Done!
> >
> >lisa
> >who hasn't had a words-l item since farm-fest (which
> >wasn't what it was called but I can't remember the real
> >name of it).
> > > Order now.  Order often!  Natalie, you can even have long sleeves!
> > >
> > > Thanks go to mem, Ken, and Pete for working on this.
> > >
> > >
> > >  http://www.cafepress.com/batfest
>
>
>
>
> Marie
>    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 08:19:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17273
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 08:19:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E57117@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:30:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12658682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 14:36:01 -0400
Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63Ia1O23451 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:36:01 -0400
Received: from dorism212@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.184.a859af1 (3958) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          14:35:54 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  7bit
Message-ID:  <184.a859af1.2a549e0a@aol.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:35:54 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: dorism212@AOL.COM
Subject:      naming
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sandra:
> A friend from my high school years (Chinese) married a nice Irish guy.
> They've taken to giving their children (2) Chinese first names (not sure if
> it's Cantonese or Mandarin) and the Irish translation of the first name as
> a
> middle name.
>
> So the son is: Tadhg (pronounced T'-eye-g) See Nolan and the daughter is
> Emer (pronounced ee'-mer) Luk-jyu (Look You) Nolan.
>
>

This makes me think of the Italian-Chinese resturant
here named Ciao Mein.

                - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 08:42:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17293
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 08:42:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E57522@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:54:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12661064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 14:59:51 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63IxkO28257 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:59:46 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g63Ixk7Y362217 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          14:59:46 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000401c222c3$cc5f7410$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:59:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: July 4th
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F206BjBRHwLozf2QPLn0000251a@hotmail.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marie Ascher
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 11:50 AM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: July 4th
>
>
> >From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
> >USA people,
> >
> >Happy Independence Day. My your fireworks be wonderful, your
> hotdog be
> >tasty and be surrounded by good friends.
>
> My grandfather died on July 4, eating a hot dog, watching the
> Phillies. I believe he died happy.
>

Ouch! That is a tough July 4th memory. I would skip July 4th after that.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 09:02:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17324
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 09:02:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000ED730@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:19:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12663013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 15:19:25 -0400
Received: from biff.kiva.net (biff.kiva.net [216.9.137.5]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g63JJPO32398 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:19:25 -0400
Received: (qmail 13590 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2002 19:19:25 -0000
Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by biff.kiva.net with SMTP; 3
          Jul 2002 19:19:25 -0000
Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id C8CD534F11; Wed,  3
          Jul 2002 14:19:24 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix)
          with ESMTP id C7F452D643 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed,  3 Jul
          2002 14:19:24 -0500 (EST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207031418110.32635-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:19:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tom Lee <flint@KIVA.NET>
Subject:      Re: ask you
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D22B9D1.22368.B8288@localhost>

        "Awry" and "cockeyed" come to mind.

--
Take care,
Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
Thought "awry" rhymed with "Maury" (as in Povich) when I was little

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

>  A friend of mine is collecting interesting words meaning "askew"
> (caddywampus is one).  Anyone have any interesting ones?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 09:05:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17338
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 09:05:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E578D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:16:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12663227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 15:22:16 -0400
Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63JMGO00420 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:22:16 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.1] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYO00M90TT3P5@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 03 Jul 2002 12:22:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
References: <F228TI7w72ryLKVXzrF00005efb@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <a0431010ab948ffafe4d8@[192.168.1.1]>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 12:24:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F228TI7w72ryLKVXzrF00005efb@hotmail.com>

>>From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
>>>>From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
>>>>Looks like I'm going to be in NY from 7/5-7/9. I've got a few
>>>>speaking commitments, but am pretty much at loose ends. Anybody up
>>>>for a meal?
>>>
>>>I'm not going to be in the city any of those days. I don't supoose you'd
>>>wanna come up to the burbs?
>>
>>How long a ride is it, and on what transportation?
>
>Well, there's several things we could do depending on your schedule. If you
>were to come all the way up to my neighborhood, it's 50 minutes from Grand
>Central on Metro North. It's a nice train ride along the Hudson.

That could work. Sunday or Monday would be best for me, I think
(although I'm still waiting for some callbacks from business
associates).

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 09:13:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17347
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 09:13:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E57A0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:25:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12663846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 15:30:43 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63JUhO01859 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:30:43 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g63JUfa14241 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:30:41 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031429190.2208-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:30:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020703185200.A2227@yoccoz.multinix.com>

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, steph wrote:

> What is that, left over from last night?

just a leetle joke

This has been the longest 3 day work week EVER.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 09:25:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17362
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 09:25:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E57B8C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:36:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12664594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 15:42:01 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63JfuO03387 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:41:56 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g63JfsG14713 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:41:54 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031435310.14555-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:41:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: naming
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEFBFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, S Hess wrote:

> So the son is: Tadhg (pronounced T'-eye-g) See Nolan and the daughter is
> Emer (pronounced ee'-mer) Luk-jyu (Look You) Nolan.

So they named them "look" and "see" in Chinese?

> I'm feeling for the kids.

Chinese names are -in- now I think.  We have Yi-Yi and Ping-Heng in the
Firm now (law clerk and attorney, respectively).  I think I'll start
spelling my name 'An'  .

Have you seen "The Best" issue of San Francisco magazine?  Look for my
dentist, Dr. Hack, in the advertising section of "best medical care."

(I wasn't thinking of changing dentists, but now I don't know . . .)

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 09:27:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17369
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 09:27:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000ED9A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:44:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12664717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 15:44:16 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g63JiGO03703 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:44:16
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-205-89.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.205.89]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g63JiFA270654 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          15:44:16 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEFKFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 12:43:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Happy July 4th!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I'm signing off for a long weekend. Y'all have a wonnerfull, wonnerfull
holiday :)

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 09:31:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17384
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 09:31:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000EDA22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:48:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12664905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 15:48:13 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g63JmDl04155 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:48:13
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-205-89.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.205.89]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g63JmCA72172 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          15:48:12 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEFKFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 12:47:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: naming
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031435310.14555-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

No...
Tadhg is the name of a famous Irish Poet...and Emer was a Irish goddess or
female sprite or such with 7 gifts. Luk-jyu means 7 gifts. This is what they
told me.

I have THE BEST issue. Think I already browsed through it. I love my
dentist: Leon Feldbrill on Union at Octavia. He and the hygienists (sp?) are
wonderful.

Sch.


> On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, S Hess wrote:
>
> > So the son is: Tadhg (pronounced T'-eye-g) See Nolan and the daughter is
> > Emer (pronounced ee'-mer) Luk-jyu (Look You) Nolan.
>
> So they named them "look" and "see" in Chinese?
>
> > I'm feeling for the kids.
>
> Chinese names are -in- now I think.  We have Yi-Yi and Ping-Heng in the
> Firm now (law clerk and attorney, respectively).  I think I'll start
> spelling my name 'An'  .
>
> Have you seen "The Best" issue of San Francisco magazine?  Look for my
> dentist, Dr. Hack, in the advertising section of "best medical care."
>
> (I wasn't thinking of changing dentists, but now I don't know . . .)
>
> Ann
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 09:33:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17388
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 09:33:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E57CB9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:44:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12665022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 15:50:19 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g63JoIl04376 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          15:50:18 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-205-89.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.205.89]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g63JoIL226582 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          15:50:18 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEFLFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 12:49:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: naming
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <184.a859af1.2a549e0a@aol.com>

Ok..I got this wrong.... It's Irish first names, Chinese translations as
middle names. Sheesh.

.hcS

> Sandra:
> > A friend from my high school years (Chinese) married a nice Irish guy.
> > They've taken to giving their children (2) Chinese first names
> (not sure if
> > it's Cantonese or Mandarin) and the Irish translation of the
> first name as
> > a
> > middle name.
> >
> > So the son is: Tadhg (pronounced T'-eye-g) See Nolan and the daughter is
> > Emer (pronounced ee'-mer) Luk-jyu (Look You) Nolan.
> >
> >
>
> This makes me think of the Italian-Chinese resturant
> here named Ciao Mein.
>
>                 - D. M.
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 09:35:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17392
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 09:35:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000EDA88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:51:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12665223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 15:51:59 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63Jpxl04709 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:51:59 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.45]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYO003M8V6M15@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 03 Jul 2002 14:51:59 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020703182051.LSNV15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>
Message-ID:  <3D235589.4020400@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:50:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lisa encourages my worst top-posting tendencies.  In any
case, dehydration wouldn't be my problem -- I drink water
all day.  Sometimes I get hungry just because my body is
used to getting fed at that time every day.  That sort of
hunger I can tough out -- it flunks the 1/2 hour test.


I just ran to the post office to mail off a package to Karo.
  She collects stamps, so those print out thingies are
simply not *done* when mailing to her... I think I stuck
about 15 stamps on that package.  It looks like something
from the Unibomber.  She won't care what's inside once she
sees the the brandy-new 37 cent stamps :).



Lisa Alfieri wrote:

> There's another factor related to hunger pains and that's
> thirst. Our sense of thirst is so weak that if your body
> gets dehydrated and you don't water yourself it will
> eventually single hunger in an attempt to get you to
> hydrate.
>
> lisa
>
>>>Let's get it straight; it's not as if I'm starving myself. My body never
>>>gets a chance to get to that point. My fire gets fed, believe me.
>>>
>>>There have been recent articles about a hormone, ghrelin (?) an appetite,
>>>which has been shown to elevate in people who are dieting. Therefore, you
>>>are likely to feel hungry before you really NEED food. What Rita needs is a
>>>drug that blocks that hormone. They are working on it.
>>>
>>It's difficult to distinguish between "phantom" hunger pangs and the
>>real thing. My experience is that if you tough it out for half an
>>hour or so, the phantom ones disappear but the real ones don't.
>>
>>Janet
>>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 09:54:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17414
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 09:54:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5804A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:06:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12667747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 16:11:48 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63KBmZ09598 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:11:48 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g63KBl929473
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:11:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D235C07.E3D107F4@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:18:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      http://cafepress.com/batfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Pete added the mousepad, large mug, and tote bag.
And the sweatshirt and BBQ apron.  Woot



Boo may still want to add more.

Betty wrote:
>
> Order now.  Order often!  Natalie, you can even have long sleeves!
>
> Thanks go to mem, Ken, and Pete for working on this.
>
>  http://www.cafepress.com/batfest

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:07:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17442
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 10:07:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000EDE02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:24:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12668747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 16:24:51 -0400
Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.106]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63KOpZ11710 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:24:51 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.185.a8afe39 (4005) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          16:24:41 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <185.a8afe39.2a54b789@aol.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:24:41 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/03/2002 2:31:02 PM Central Daylight Time,
aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET writes:


This has been the longest 3 day work week EVER.



Why so long?

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:11:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17471
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 10:11:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000EDE4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:27:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12668996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 16:27:49 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f72.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.72]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63KRnZ12261 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:27:49 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 13:27:43 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          03 Jul 2002 20:27:43 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 20:27:43.0910 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[16196460:01C222D0]
Message-ID:  <F729ixresqctRbffoJp0000609b@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:27:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: July 4th
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
>Ouch! That is a tough July 4th memory. I would skip July 4th after that.

Or I can think about my grandfather and how he loved hot dogs and baseball,
and smile that I knew him.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:12:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17482
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 10:12:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E58217@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:24:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12669159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 16:29:41 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63KTfZ12728 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:29:41 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g63KTe7Y461288 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          16:29:41 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000001c222d0$5bf610f0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:29:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: http://cafepress.com/batfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D235C07.E3D107F4@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Betty
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 4:18 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: http://cafepress.com/batfest
>
>
> Pete added the mousepad, large mug, and tote bag.
> And the sweatshirt and BBQ apron.  Woot
>
>
>
> Boo may still want to add more.
>
> Betty wrote:
> >
> > Order now.  Order often!  Natalie, you can even have long sleeves!
> >
> > Thanks go to mem, Ken, and Pete for working on this.
> >
> >  http://www.cafepress.com/batfest
>

I would lose a body part if I dare to bring another mug into our house.
Maybe a mousepad.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:13:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17486
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 10:13:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5822F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:25:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12669237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 16:30:51 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f205.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.205]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63KUpZ12952 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:30:51 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 13:30:45 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          03 Jul 2002 20:30:45 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 20:30:45.0696 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[8273BC00:01C222D0]
Message-ID:  <F205FgXN3DAfHTbn5GI00005f58@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:30:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
>Why didn't you want to suggest it? Do you think it is whorish enough for
>Marie?

What, no halter top?

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:15:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17495
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 10:15:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000EDEAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:32:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12669285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 16:32:05 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f313.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.188]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63KW5Z13106 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:32:05 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 13:32:00 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          03 Jul 2002 20:31:59 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 20:32:00.0220 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[AEDF31C0:01C222D0]
Message-ID:  <F313NSAW4eE2FGwQ21j00005a29@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:31:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
>That could work. Sunday or Monday would be best for me, I think
>(although I'm still waiting for some callbacks from business
>associates).

Oops -- weekend is no good. I think Monday would work though.

(hi, alec!)

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:16:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17500
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 10:16:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000EDEBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:33:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12669307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 16:33:02 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f265.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.140]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63KX2Z13216 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:33:02 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 13:32:57 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          03 Jul 2002 20:32:56 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 20:32:57.0127 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[D0CA8370:01C222D0]
Message-ID:  <F265yYZMqDu3eqZHb0200005fe4@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:32:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
>Thanks for the effort. I always need a another t-shirt.

I need another t-shirt like you need another coffee mug. Can I really order
a coffee mug?

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:18:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17508
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 10:18:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5829D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:29:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12669475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 16:35:08 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe36.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.93]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63KZ8Z13460 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:35:08 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 13:35:02 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.154.5]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 20:35:02.0672 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[1B9F2900:01C222D1]
Message-ID:  <OE36j2WnyVyIsRrrs9Y00004708@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:34:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: http://cafepress.com/batfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

BB:

>Pete added the mousepad, large mug, and tote bag.
And the sweatshirt and BBQ apron.  Woot



Very nice! Should we expect any whorish items?

Mustn't break tradition!


AS, off to a party at Kentucky Lake

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:18:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17512
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 10:18:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E582A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:30:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12669483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 16:35:24 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f261.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.136]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63KZOZ13488 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:35:24 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 13:35:19 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          03 Jul 2002 20:35:18 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 20:35:19.0075 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[25660F30:01C222D1]
Message-ID:  <F261uF5rRG5hnxrbu5Z0000608d@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:35:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
>I do remember Kennywood. As a matter of fact Marie you
>were the first person I thought of when I was trying to
>come up with the name of the fest! And yes, it was a
>great day... despite me crushing you on that upside down,
>around and around ride.

I forgot about that! You were good padding. I'm giggling now
thinking about that Turtle ride that made us laugh so hard.

Marie

_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:20:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17520
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 10:20:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E582D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:32:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12669609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 16:37:35 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63KbYZ14036 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:37:34 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g63KbY928727
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:37:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F205FgXN3DAfHTbn5GI00005f58@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D236211.4C3D9DAF@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:44:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> >From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
> >Why didn't you want to suggest it? Do you think it is whorish enough for
> >Marie?
>
> What, no halter top?

Ken?  Pete?  mem??

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:22:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17532
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 10:22:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E58300@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:33:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12669750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 16:39:03 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63Kd2Z14543 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:39:02 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g63Kd2900416
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:39:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F265yYZMqDu3eqZHb0200005fe4@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D23626A.AC0246B2@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:45:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> >From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
> >Thanks for the effort. I always need a another t-shirt.
>
> I need another t-shirt like you need another coffee mug. Can I really order
> a coffee mug?

Yes!  And an apron for *uc* or is it *ic*?  I forgot.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:37:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17603
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 10:37:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E58675@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:48:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12671182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 16:54:06 -0400
Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63Ks5Z18399 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:54:05 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.1] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYO00M9IY24P5@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 03 Jul 2002 13:54:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
References: <F313NSAW4eE2FGwQ21j00005a29@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <a04310110b9491544f6cc@[192.168.1.1]>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:55:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F313NSAW4eE2FGwQ21j00005a29@hotmail.com>

>>From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
>>That could work. Sunday or Monday would be best for me, I think
>>(although I'm still waiting for some callbacks from business
>>associates).
>
>Oops -- weekend is no good. I think Monday would work though.

Monday evening's a poss. I have lunch with a business associate in
the afternoon.

J

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:43:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17615
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 10:43:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000EE144@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:00:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12670854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 17:00:08 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f157.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.157]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63Ko8Z17846 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:50:08 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 13:50:03 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 03
          Jul 2002 20:50:02 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 20:50:03.0212 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[3462A8C0:01C222D3]
Message-ID:  <F1576eA6Zi6qWqRWt6a0000465d@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:50:02 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin said:
>God it took me forever to determine that this word basically means a
>cheer, like yay.
>
>That Adam used it in an off-list music e-mail.
>
>I never heard of it.  OK this is a poll:  who else here (besides Adam and
>I suppose Pete and I suppose Steph and I guess I suppose Anne) know this
>word?

You're such a wannabe, Bork.

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:51:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17628
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 10:51:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E58A0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:03:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12672377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 17:08:51 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f237.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.237]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63L8oZ21382 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:08:50 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          3 Jul 2002 14:08:45 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 03
          Jul 2002 21:08:45 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2002 21:08:45.0585 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[D15F3010:01C222D5]
Message-ID:  <F237ZaendgjvM9KfYDo000038ad@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:08:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

My order for 2 is already in. I never heard of those people before, but the
idea is perfect for a web-based business. It'll be interesting to see what
kind of quality the finished shirts are. If they're good, we'll probably use
them for an office t-shirt. Once again, words-l making life sweet.

-aht


>From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: BatFest T-shirts
>Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:55:14 -0700
>
>Order now.  Order often!  Natalie, you can even have long sleeves!
>
>Thanks go to mem, Ken, and Pete for working on this.
>
>
>  http://www.cafepress.com/batfest




_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:54:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17635
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 10:54:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000EE26B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:11:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12672466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 17:11:43 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63LBhZ21628 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:11:43 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020703211137.MRMR29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:11:37 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <F205FgXN3DAfHTbn5GI00005f58@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020703135948.02518a60@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:08:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D236211.4C3D9DAF@uclink.berkeley.edu>

I've added the rest of the available products (except the license plate
frame, which doesn't accommodate our current graphic designs well).  The
most whorish we've got is the Jr. Baby Doll T-Shirt or the Ladies Tank
Top.  We do have an undergarment, but I wouldn't describe it as whorish...

Here's the stock list:

Shirts:

White T-Shirt, $13.99
Ash Grey T-Shirt, $14.99
Long Sleeve T-Shirt, $18.99
Sweatshirt, $20.99
Jr. Baby Doll T-Shirt, $16.99
Ladies Tank Top, $15.99
Tank Top, $15.99
Golf Shirt, $16.99
Baseball Jersey, $16.99

Undergarments:

Boxer Shorts, $12.99

Hats:

Baseball Cap, $12.99
Visor, $10.99
Beach Hat, $14.99

Mugs:

Stainless Steel Travel Mug, $14.99
Frosted Mug, $13.99
Large Mug, $11.99
Mug, $10.99

Picnic/BBQ Accessories:

BBQ Apron, $14.99
Insulated Cooler Bag, $16.99
Tote Bag, $12.99

Housewares/Miscellaneous:

Mousepad, $10.99
Wall Clock, $10.99
Flying Disc, $6.49
Tile Coaster, $4.50

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 11:00:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17650
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 11:00:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E58BF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:11:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12672820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 17:17:08 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63LH8Z22595 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:17:08 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020703211702.FZHR6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:17:02 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020703004532.A6AD37DDA@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D223D09.6070503@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020703055503.021c3d90@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020703133139.024fd9d0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:13:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: ask you
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D230063.BB7209E4@maynor.net>

Natalie Maynor writes,

>I don't think of catty-cornered as being all that close to askew.  I think of
>it as a simple directional term.

They're related for me -- one meaning "on a diagonal or oblique line" and
the other meaning "turned or twisted toward one side."  Both signify
obliqueness, with one denoting position and the other attitude.

WordNet <http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/~wn/>, BTW, has these synonyms for
"askew": awry, cockeyed, lopsided, wonky, skew-whiff.

Somehow that brings me to "canted" and "tilted."  And "askance" is "with a
side-glance: OBLIQUELY."

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 11:11:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17660
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 11:11:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000EE40B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:28:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12674850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 17:27:41 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63LReZ24205 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:27:40 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g63LReI23956
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:27:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F237ZaendgjvM9KfYDo000038ad@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D236DCF.58A47B57@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:34:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Mem, of course, provided the highest quality graphics.

B

Anne Toal wrote:
>
> My order for 2 is already in. I never heard of those people before, but the
> idea is perfect for a web-based business. It'll be interesting to see what
> kind of quality the finished shirts are. If they're good, we'll probably use
> them for an office t-shirt. Once again, words-l making life sweet.
>
> -aht
>
> >From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
> >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >Subject: BatFest T-shirts
> >Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:55:14 -0700
> >
> >Order now.  Order often!  Natalie, you can even have long sleeves!
> >
> >Thanks go to mem, Ken, and Pete for working on this.
> >
> >
> >  http://www.cafepress.com/batfest
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 11:12:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17667
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 11:12:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E590F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:24:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12672919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 17:29:32 -0400
Received: from shared1-mail.whowhere.com (shared1-batch.whowhere.com
          [209.185.123.82]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id
          g63LJWZ22810 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:19:32
          -0400
Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared1-mail.whowhere.com; Wed Jul 
          3 14:19:13 2002
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Sent-Mail: off
X-Mailer: MailCity Service
X-Sender-Ip: 204.183.83.3
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Language: en
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <NGKAMFHCJIGAFAAA@shared1-mail.whowhere.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:19:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@EUDORAMAIL.COM>
Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail  (http://www.eudoramail.com:80)
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Alec [about Steph]:

> She lives in Amsterdam. She travels sometimes to see people in Belgium.

Do you have the 22nd (of July) off, Steph? I'll be in Antwerpen
7/21-28 and don't have to work that Monday.

I'm going to miss last year's sweet US$-Euro rate ...

-rashmi


Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 11:13:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17671
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 11:13:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E59120@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:25:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12675029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 17:30:31 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63LUVZ24616 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:30:31 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020703213025.QVMT15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:30:25 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020703141510.01f6cec0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:26:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: ask you
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I wrote,

 > WordNet <http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/~wn/>

Darn, I forgot to add that WordWeb <http://wordweb.info/free/> is a nice
thesaurus/dictionary program for Windows that uses the WordNet
database.  And as the lite version of WordWeb Pro, it's freeware.

For portability, there's Noah Lite for PalmOS
<http://www.arslexis.com/>.  I've tried it and liked it, but haven't used
it as much as WordWeb.  There's also RoadLingua for PalmOS and PocketPC
<http://absoluteword.com/wordnet/>, but I haven't tried it.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 11:14:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17675
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 11:14:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5913D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:25:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12675054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 17:31:07 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63LV6Z24673 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:31:07 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g63LV6I28690
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:31:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F237ZaendgjvM9KfYDo000038ad@hotmail.com>
            <3D236DCF.58A47B57@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D236E9E.85A9CA63@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:37:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

 Anne Toal wrote:
> >
> > My order for 2 is already in. I never heard of those people before, but the
> > idea is perfect for a web-based business. It'll be interesting to see what
> > kind of quality the finished shirts are. If they're good, we'll probably use
> > them for an office t-shirt. Once again, words-l making life sweet.

You're just using us!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 11:18:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17684
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 11:18:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E59275@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:30:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12673197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 17:35:53 -0400
Received: from shared1-mail.whowhere.com (shared1-batch.whowhere.com
          [209.185.123.82]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id
          g63LPrZ23338 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:25:53
          -0400
Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared1-mail.whowhere.com; Wed Jul 
          3 14:25:40 2002
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Sent-Mail: off
X-Expiredinmiddle: true
X-Mailer: MailCity Service
X-Sender-Ip: 204.183.83.3
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Language: en
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <ABNAPFAGDOGAFAAA@shared1-mail.whowhere.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:25:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@EUDORAMAIL.COM>
Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail  (http://www.eudoramail.com:80)
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sandra:

> When I lived in LA, I noticed a lot of the hispanics put chili powder on
> their fruit. I bet it tastes great. I thought I'd have some when I was in
> Mazatlan but I didn't run into any fruit vendors...except for one whose
> fruit had been out in the sun all day (not too appealing).

Blast from the past:
We (brother and I) were forbidden/(brainwashed by the 'rents) from eating fruit purchased from street vendors. It was all right to buy guava, green mango (of the kind not available here) etc. but we had
to bring it home, wash it (my dad's big on washing) and then eat
it. We could never do what the other kids did - have the vendor-guy
cut up the fruit (with knife of questionable hygiene), sprinkle
that lip-smacking mixture of chilli powder and salt and eat as we walked from school. Sigh.

-rashmi


Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 11:35:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17798
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 11:35:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000EE5BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:52:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12676465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 17:52:37 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63LqaZ27685 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:52:36 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws173-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.173]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63LqYQ21436
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:52:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <002201c222a0$d1684ae0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D23721E.355E7625@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:52:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: July 4th
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:

> Happy Independence Day. My your fireworks be wonderful, your hotdog be
> tasty and be surrounded by good friends.

I'm visualizing a bunch of good friends closing in on a single hotdog.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 11:38:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17805
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 11:38:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E596E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:50:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12676625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 17:55:23 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63LtNZ27955 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:55:23 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws173-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.173]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63LtKQ22205
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:55:21 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F228B03gurqHpjyeOrz00005bd3@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2372C5.898016A5@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:55:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

> Okay, but your definition wasn't clear. I believe you said, when asked what
> second cousins are, "Children of first cousins." Which I read as meaning
> that the children of my first cousins were my second cousins. Which is not

Ah.  To me "children of first cousins" means children born to people who
are first cousins.  Maybe the fact that I have no first cousins
influenced my way of stating it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 11:47:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17827
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 11:47:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E59870@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:59:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12677502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 18:04:22 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63M4MZ29263 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:04:22 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws173-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.173]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63M4JQ24337
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:04:20 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEFAFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2374E0.E0CBD29A@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:04:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Goo-Gone
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:
>
> What did the bumper sticker say?

Words-L@uga.cc.uga.edu
Where Words Collide

I bought two, one for my car and the other for whatever other place I
thought of, which turned out to be one of my office filing cabinets.

> I lent a bottle of Goo-Gone to my friend/neighbor who now cannot remember
> borrowing it. Hmmm. Were she not such a good, dependable and ethical friend,
> I'd question that. All I know is I have to buy myself another bottle. It's
> great stuff.

Mine is now lost somewhere in one of the boxes of stuff I brought home
today.  I ended the task shortly after noon today, except that I had
hoped to vacuum up the paper scuzz all around the filing cabinets, but I
couldn't find the custodial vacuum cleaners and couldn't bring mine from
home since it's broken.  Or rather I could have brought it, but it
wouldn't have served a purpose.  So I left a note for Wilma, the person
who cleans our floor, apologizing for the mess, then ran into her in the
basement as I was leaving and apologized ftf.  She told me not to worry
-- that it was not a problem.

Tomorrow I'm going to leap into the task of organizing the chaos of the
stuff I brought home.  I have eight new boards and sixteen new concrete
blocks.  I'll put the shelves up in the hall first, then start sorting
books into those I'm keeping and those I'm taking to the Friends of the
Library, then move on into other boxes and decisions.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 11:54:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17849
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 11:54:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E59917@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:06:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12677764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 18:11:50 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63MBoZ29875 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:11:50 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws173-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.173]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63MBYQ26135
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:11:36 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D237693.E1D78B0C@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:11:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:
>
> Order now.  Order often!  Natalie, you can even have long sleeves!
>
> Thanks go to mem, Ken, and Pete for working on this.
>
>  http://www.cafepress.com/batfest

Neat!  What is cafepress.com?  And what color is the l-s one?  It
appears to be white, alas.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 12:51:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17935
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 12:51:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E59EB5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:02:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12679657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 19:08:01 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63Mw1Z01876 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:58:01 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g63Mw1OI018791 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:58:01 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207031851140.27569-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:58:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      corticosteroid shots
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

As I suspected, my knee problem was at least partly bursitis, for which
the recommended treatment is a single shot of corticosteroid. My dr did
extensive x-rays of that knee, and I learned that I have quite a bit of
arthritis, also. It is impossible to know whether that played a role. I
got a shot there too - in the knee joint itself - just to be sure to take
care of the immediate problems.

So - it was suggested that I avoid exercises using lots of knee-bending. I
can still ride, use my treaadmill, use my NordicTrack, swim, work out. If
I want to remain quite active indefinitely, I may be a candidate for a
knee replacement is several years - maybe 6-7 years or longer. I can live
with that. Everyone I know who has had a knee replacement has been totally
satisfied with the outcome.

I now have a couple of Pilates videos and some stretch bands. I will have
to find out if I can do matwork without lots of knee action.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 12:59:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18052
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 12:59:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E59F78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:10:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12680155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 19:16:03 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63NG2Z03159 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:16:02 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g63NG2h02126
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:16:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D237693.E1D78B0C@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D238735.33F17856@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:22:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Betty wrote:
> >
> > Order now.  Order often!  Natalie, you can even have long sleeves!
> >
> > Thanks go to mem, Ken, and Pete for working on this.
> >
> >  http://www.cafepress.com/batfest
>
> Neat!  What is cafepress.com?  And what color is the l-s one?  It
> appears to be white, alas.

A place on the web that makes t-shirts. Ask Pete or Ken if the long
sleeved one can be in ash.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:01:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18064
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 13:01:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E59FA8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:13:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12680216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 19:18:30 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63NITZ03323 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:18:29 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g63NITh04175
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:18:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207031851140.27569-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2387C8.A6C2E131@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:24:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: corticosteroid shots
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> As I suspected, my knee problem was at least partly bursitis, for which
> the recommended treatment is a single shot of corticosteroid. My dr did
> extensive x-rays of that knee, and I learned that I have quite a bit of
> arthritis, also. It is impossible to know whether that played a role. I
> got a shot there too - in the knee joint itself - just to be sure to take
> care of the immediate problems.
>
> So - it was suggested that I avoid exercises using lots of knee-bending. I
> can still ride, use my treaadmill, use my NordicTrack, swim, work out. If
> I want to remain quite active indefinitely, I may be a candidate for a
> knee replacement is several years - maybe 6-7 years or longer. I can live
> with that. Everyone I know who has had a knee replacement has been totally
> satisfied with the outcome.
>
> I now have a couple of Pilates videos and some stretch bands. I will have
> to find out if I can do matwork without lots of knee action.

Did you order your t-shirt?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:12:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18073
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 13:12:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000EEB0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:29:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12680478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 19:29:21 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63NTLZ04093 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:29:21 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws66-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.66]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63NTIQ13706
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:29:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207031851140.27569-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2388CA.54FBB4B@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:29:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: corticosteroid shots
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> So - it was suggested that I avoid exercises using lots of knee-bending. I
> can still ride, use my treaadmill, use my NordicTrack, swim, work out. If

I trust that your workouts don't include much duck-walking.

Meanwhile, what's happening in Tennessee?  Some people here read the
Commercial Appeal, but I don't.  I got the impression at lunch today
that things were still pretty crazy and bad.  Somebody was wondering
whether the people teaching first-term summer school got paid for the
whole term since it ended early.  I said that I bet I could find out.
Did they at UT?

I've heard from people teaching this term of some students who had been
registered for second-term ss at U of Memphis but who have shown up here
since second term isn't going to (or might not?) exist there.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:13:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18080
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 13:13:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A0AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:24:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12680487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 19:30:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63NU2Z04159 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:30:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws66-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.66]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63NU0Q13853
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:30:00 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D237693.E1D78B0C@maynor.net>
            <3D238735.33F17856@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2388F5.A5E71CF1@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:29:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> A place on the web that makes t-shirts. Ask Pete or Ken if the long
> sleeved one can be in ash.

Peter or Ken:  Is the ls t-shirt white only, or does it come in the gray
also?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:15:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18092
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 13:15:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A0D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:26:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12680296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 19:32:03 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63NM3Z03596 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:22:03 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g63NM2OI025478 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:22:02 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207031921300.27569-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:22:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: corticosteroid shots
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2387C8.A6C2E131@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

>Did you order your t-shirt?

Not yet! I am trying to decide which I want!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:16:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18100
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 13:16:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A0FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:27:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12680606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 19:33:19 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63NXJZ04469 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:33:19 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020703233313.XPCQ24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 23:33:13 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D237693.E1D78B0C@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020703161809.02b15980@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:30:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D238735.33F17856@uclink.berkeley.edu>

Betty writes,

>A place on the web that makes t-shirts.

More importantly, a place that handles all the quantities, ordering,
billing, shipping and returns for custom-printed things like t-shirts, mugs
and mousepads.  You upload image(s), link it to blank products, and they
create the online store and fulfillment system for you and sell in
quantities as small as one.

>Ask Pete or Ken if the long sleeved one can be in ash.

Sorry, no.  But the sweatshirt (long-sleeved) seems ashish...

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:18:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18104
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 13:18:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A11D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:29:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12680630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 19:35:19 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63NZJZ04575 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:35:19 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g63NZIh21438
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:35:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207031921300.27569-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D238BBA.C6625DCD@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:41:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: corticosteroid shots
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
>
> >Did you order your t-shirt?
>
> Not yet! I am trying to decide which I want!

Get two of everything!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:22:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18108
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 13:22:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A162@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:33:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12680692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 19:39:03 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63Nd3Z04799 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:39:03 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws66-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.66]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g63Nd0Q15529
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:39:01 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D237693.E1D78B0C@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020703161809.02b15980@mail.istori.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D238B11.1F903F23@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:38:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Kaminski wrote:

> >Ask Pete or Ken if the long sleeved one can be in ash.
>
> Sorry, no.  But the sweatshirt (long-sleeved) seems ashish...

What does seems ashish mean?  I don't want any more sweatshirts,
though.  I was just curious about the seeming ashish.  I've sworn off
buying sweatshirts or ss t-shirts since I have way, way too many of the
latter and more than enough of the former.  All I buy now are ls
t-shirts.  But not white.  I don't buy any t-shirts, ls or ss, in white
(or sweatshirts).

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:31:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18123
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 13:31:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A239@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:42:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12680679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 19:48:12 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63NcCZ04746 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:38:12 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g63NcBOI029918 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:38:11 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207031935100.27569-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:38:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: corticosteroid shots
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2388CA.54FBB4B@maynor.net>

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I trust that your workouts don't include much duck-walking.

Zip.

>Meanwhile, what's happening in Tennessee?  Some people here read the
>Commercial Appeal, but I don't.  I got the impression at lunch today
>that things were still pretty crazy and bad.  Somebody was wondering
>whether the people teaching first-term summer school got paid for the
>whole term since it ended early.  I said that I bet I could find out.
>Did they at UT?

Something happened today, but I have no details yet. I suppose I will be
up for the 11 pm news. I heard "not enough money for UT" and "no
raises." I don't think summer salaries were <adjusted> - but I don't know
for sure.

>I've heard from people teaching this term of some students who had been
>registered for second-term ss at U of Memphis but who have shown up here
>since second term isn't going to (or might not?) exist there.

Earlier today Crabtree said that students who go elsewhere will get
transfer credit. But of course that will require the $$ to pay a private
university of an out-of-state univ.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:32:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18132
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 13:32:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A25D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:43:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12680707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 19:49:18 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63NdIZ04815 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:39:18 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g63NdHOI030209 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:39:17 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207031938440.27569-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:39:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: corticosteroid shots
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D238BBA.C6625DCD@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

>> >Did you order your t-shirt?
>>
>> Not yet! I am trying to decide which I want!
>
>Get two of everything!

When I don't know whether I will have a salary after July 31?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:42:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18140
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 13:42:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A32C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:54:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12681304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 19:59:25 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63NxPZ06477 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:59:25 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g63NqLb02048 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:52:21 -0400
Received: from TWILD ([131.128.2.36]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with
          ESMTP id g63Nwok13331 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          19:58:50 -0400
X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.0 (Win32)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Message-ID:  <3524403127.1025726619@TWILD>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:03:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Terry Wild <twild@URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ask you
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207031418110.32635-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>

Out-of-whack

Terry

> On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:
>
>>  A friend of mine is collecting interesting words meaning "askew"
>> (caddywampus is one).  Anyone have any interesting ones?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:47:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18158
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 13:47:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000EECFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:04:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12681461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 20:04:09 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64048Z06896 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:04:08 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g64047q29837 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:04:07 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031902590.15495-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:04:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F1576eA6Zi6qWqRWt6a0000465d@hotmail.com>

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Rashmi Murthy wrote:

> You're such a wannabe, Bork.

Yabbut it's not like I would use the word in public or anything.  I'm kind
of a -private- wannabe.  Wannabe in my dreams!

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:47:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18165
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 13:47:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000EECFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:04:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12681465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 20:04:25 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6404PZ06901 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:04:25 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws62-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.62]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6404IQ20267
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:04:20 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2390FF.80530C2C@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:04:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Where is Doris Smith?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

And what is her latest e-mail address?

 ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<daws@IBM.NET>
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:50:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18169
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 13:50:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A3EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:02:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12681549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 20:07:39 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6407dZ07155 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:07:39 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6407bY00134 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:07:37 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031906420.73-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:07:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <185.a8afe39.2a54b789@aol.com>

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

> This has been the longest 3 day work week EVER.
>
> Why so long?

Oh because I want a vacation I guess and IT'S COMING HERE IT IS!

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:51:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18176
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 13:51:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A3F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:02:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12681555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 20:07:56 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6407tZ07175 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:07:55 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws62-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.62]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6407rQ21001
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:07:53 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207031935100.27569-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2391D6.8238FF20@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:07:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: corticosteroid shots
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >I've heard from people teaching this term of some students who had been
> >registered for second-term ss at U of Memphis but who have shown up here
> >since second term isn't going to (or might not?) exist there.
>
> Earlier today Crabtree said that students who go elsewhere will get
> transfer credit. But of course that will require the $$ to pay a private
> university of an out-of-state univ.

Although I'm not sure, I'm guessing that the students who showed up here
from Memphis were likely our own students who had been planning on
taking summer courses in their hometown, as many students do.

I don't know who Crabtree is, but do your students not normally get to
transfer credit from other universities?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:52:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18180
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 13:52:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A40A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:03:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12681588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 20:09:13 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6409DZ07283 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:09:13 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6409B800203 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:09:11 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031907421.73-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:09:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"OLYMPIA, Wash. -- The word "Oriental" to describe people of Asian descent
is now banned in Washington statutes, codes, rules and regulations."

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:56:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18188
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 13:56:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A458@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:07:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12681665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 20:12:54 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g640CsZ07500 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:12:54 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws62-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.62]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g640CqQ21960
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:12:52 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031907421.73-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D239300.D473F88B@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:12:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:
>
> "OLYMPIA, Wash. -- The word "Oriental" to describe people of Asian descent
> is now banned in Washington statutes, codes, rules and regulations."

Did they say why?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:59:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18195
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 13:59:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000EED83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:16:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12681503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 20:16:26 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6406QZ07019 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:06:26 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6406POI004166;
          Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:06:25 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207032001210.27569-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:06:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I heard today - on NPR, I think - that the U of Colo now receives only
aout 10% of its funding from the state. There is a movement to privatize -
get rid of the state connection and become a private Univ of Colo. I
suspect that that is the direction that many state uiversities should be
moving in.

OUr NPR station, WUOT, says that under whatever proposal is apparently
making its way through the House & Senate it will have to shut down in
September. Earlier this year, WUOT had a 7-day lead-time scare about
funds. I think it should be seeking to become 100% private.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 14:06:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18217
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 14:06:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A551@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:17:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12681945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 20:23:07 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g640N6Z08214 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:23:06 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g640N5r00996 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:23:05 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031919230.224-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:23:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D239300.D473F88B@maynor.net>

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Did they say why?

Oh all right:

"The word "Oriental" was first used to denote everything east of London,
said [Sen. Paull] Shin, a Korean War orphan.  It was later used to
describe people with flat noses, small eyes, black hair and mysterious
ways, he said.

"We don't appreciate that," said Shin, D-Mukilteo.  "It's pejorative
terminology.  It's offensive."

....

"Many lawmakers said they had no idea Oriental was perceived as a slur.
And some were confused by exemptions for Oriental food and rugs."
[explaining why the bill died last year]

"Only six lawmakers, all from Eastern Washington, opposed the change."

Well I don't have all the "'s and ''s right too bad

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 14:06:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18224
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 14:06:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A568@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:18:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12681703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 20:23:47 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g640DlZ07593 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:13:47 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g640DkOI005638 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:13:46 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207032010330.27569-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:13:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: corticosteroid shots
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2391D6.8238FF20@maynor.net>

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I don't know who Crabtree is, but do your students not normally get to
>transfer credit from other universities?

Loren is Provost.

It is not normally the case that there is automatic transfer credit for
any old course taken anywhere. Normally, the course content, level,
etc. is checked. There will be very few checks this summer - especially
for graduating seniors.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 14:07:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18228
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 14:07:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000EEDC6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:23:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12681963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 20:23:59 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g640NwZ08242 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:23:58 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020704002352.DFNL8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 00:23:52 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031907421.73-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020703171810.024a0810@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:20:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D239300.D473F88B@maynor.net>

Natalie Maynor writes,

>Did they say why?

Excerpt from the Seattle Times at:

http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis/web/vortex/display?slug=noslur01m&date=20020701

aka

http://tinyurl.com/k2m

>The change is mandated by a bill sponsored by state Sen. Paull Shin,
>D-Edmonds, and is the first such law in the country. Shin said he got the
>idea from the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., who sought to outlaw the
>word "Negro" because of its connection to slavery.
>
>The word "Oriental" was first used to denote everything east of London,
>said Shin, a Korean War orphan. It was later used to describe people with
>flat noses, small eyes, black hair and mysterious ways, he said.
>
>"We don't appreciate that," he said. "It's pejorative terminology. It's
>offensive."

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 14:15:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18240
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 14:15:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000EEE12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:31:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12682174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 20:31:58 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g640VvZ08814 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:31:58 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020704003152.DKDI8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 00:31:52 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIEOEFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:34:12 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Saturday
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D230BAF.FF604C79@valstar.net>

> I remind all campers that I am not far distant from the event and that
> visitors are welcome.
>
> alyce

But how do you feel about overnight guests? :D

(I've remembered that you're not far. I'll see what I can do.)

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 14:16:12 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18244
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 14:16:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000EEE1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:33:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12682188 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 20:33:04 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g640X4Z08951 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:33:04 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws50-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.50]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g640X1Q25887
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:33:01 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207032001210.27569-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2397B9.88DACFDD@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:32:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> OUr NPR station, WUOT, says that under whatever proposal is apparently
> making its way through the House & Senate it will have to shut down in
> September. Earlier this year, WUOT had a 7-day lead-time scare about
> funds. I think it should be seeking to become 100% private.

It what will have to shut down?  UT?  What about the other universities
in the state?  I don't know what I think about the idea of becoming
private.  I'm not sure that that would be the best solution.

I heard something at lunch today in the (relatively brief) Tennessee
talk about being huge amounts in the red.  I will say that, as
frustrating it is at times and as much as I've never been sure it's a
good idea, the Mississippi rule of never operating in the red might not
be all bad.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 14:19:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18278
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 14:19:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A6E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:30:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12682245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 20:36:06 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g640a5Z09177 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:36:06 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws50-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.50]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g640a3Q26550
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:36:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207032010330.27569-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D239870.F0AA985F@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:36:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: corticosteroid shots
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> It is not normally the case that there is automatic transfer credit for
> any old course taken anywhere. Normally, the course content, level,
> etc. is checked. There will be very few checks this summer - especially
> for graduating seniors.

Of course transferred credits are checked for course content, level,
etc.  I didn't mean to suggest that any old course taken anywhere was
automatically transferred into any old slot.  I would find it mightily
bizarre if the details weren't checked.  And I find it pretty surprising
to think that they wouldn't check this summer.  Is it because the
checkers will be unemployed since the university is closed?  How will
degrees be granted in such a case?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 14:22:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18329
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 14:22:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A7BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:34:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12682383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 20:39:31 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g640dVZ09441 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:39:31 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020704003926.DOLQ8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 00:39:26 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEOFFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:41:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D23626A.AC0246B2@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> > I need another t-shirt like you need another coffee mug. Can I
> really order
> > a coffee mug?

I have two of their large mugs from other stores, and they're of good
quality.

Oh, God, it's still there.

http://www.cafepress.com/ohplease

(my evil friend Jordan set that up probably 2 years ago now)

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 14:26:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18354
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 14:26:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A89F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:37:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12682466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 20:43:06 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g640h6Z09680 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:43:06 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws50-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.50]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g640h4Q27916
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:43:04 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031907421.73-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020703171810.024a0810@mail.istori.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D239A14.4F040531@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:43:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Kaminski quoted:

> >The word "Oriental" was first used to denote everything east of London,

Makes sense.  London is pretty close to Greenwich.

> >said Shin, a Korean War orphan. It was later used to describe people with
> >flat noses, small eyes, black hair and mysterious ways, he said.

I'll have to ponder this on various counts.  Are Asian noses flat?  As
for small eyes, I wouldn't have thought of the word "small," though I
guess I can see that.  The eyes are obviously shaped in a different way
from western eyes.  Oops.  Sorry for using the word "western."  Black
hair?  Yes.  Is there something wrong with having black hair?
Mysterious ways?  I dunno.  I can think of various people I've known who
had what I might consider mysterious ways, but I've never called them
oriental.

> >"We don't appreciate that," he said. "It's pejorative terminology. It's
> >offensive."

As I've said before, that is enough reason for me not to use a label.
So far in my one-to-one inquiries, I've found no Asian who objected to
being called Oriental, though one did tell me that her (non-Asian)
sister-in-law in California told her that she was supposed to object to
it so she's trying not to use the term.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 14:29:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18361
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 14:29:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5A941@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:40:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12682580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 20:45:53 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g640jrZ09926 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:45:53 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws50-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.50]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g640joQ28391
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:45:51 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031919230.224-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D239ABB.A8818671@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:45:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> "Many lawmakers said they had no idea Oriental was perceived as a slur.

Ever since this topic first arose on Words-L, I've been asking
linguistics classes whether they knew.  So far it's been 100% no -- and
questions about why.  But I'm surprised that those west-coasters didn't
know since I've concluded that it's a west coast thing.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 14:45:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18405
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 14:45:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5AAD5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:57:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12682847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 21:02:28 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g640qSZ10678 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:52:28 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g640qROI019162 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:52:27 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207032050050.27569-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:52:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2397B9.88DACFDD@maynor.net>

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> OUr NPR station, WUOT, says that under whatever proposal is apparently
>> making its way through the House & Senate it will have to shut down in
>> September. Earlier this year, WUOT had a 7-day lead-time scare about
>> funds. I think it should be seeking to become 100% private.
>
>It what will have to shut down?  UT?  What about the other universities
>in the state?  I don't know what I think about the idea of becoming
>private.  I'm not sure that that would be the best solution.

WUOT    -       it

Since state funding does not <work> (unless you call not having a state
univ. <working>) what would you suggest?

>I heard something at lunch today in the (relatively brief) Tennessee
>talk about being huge amounts in the red.  I will say that, as
>frustrating it is at times and as much as I've never been sure it's a
>good idea, the Mississippi rule of never operating in the red might not
>be all bad.

In the red? Not exactly - we just don't have enough funds to fund another
year. We're, like, broke.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 14:47:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18411
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 14:47:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5AAF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:58:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12683033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 21:03:54 -0400
Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6413sZ11384 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:03:54 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.1] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYP001OR9MHOS@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 03 Jul 2002 18:03:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031919230.224-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <3D239ABB.A8818671@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <a04310118b9494f9dac3e@[192.168.1.1]>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:05:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D239ABB.A8818671@maynor.net>

>Ann Borkin wrote:
>
>>  "Many lawmakers said they had no idea Oriental was perceived as a slur.
>
>Ever since this topic first arose on Words-L, I've been asking
>linguistics classes whether they knew.  So far it's been 100% no -- and
>questions about why.  But I'm surprised that those west-coasters didn't
>know since I've concluded that it's a west coast thing.

There's no particular logic to these shifts, as far as I can tell; in
my lifetime, I've seen a shift in which "colored person" is the mark
of a bigot but "person of color" is the latest, safest terminology. I
just try to use whatever seems up-to-the-minute, although they change
often enough to be a bit challenging.

Janet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 14:47:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18415
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 14:47:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000EEFE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:04:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12682890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 21:04:26 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g640sQZ10784 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:54:26 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g640sPOI019822 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:54:25 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207032052460.27569-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:54:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: corticosteroid shots
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D239870.F0AA985F@maynor.net>

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>automatically transferred into any old slot.  I would find it mightily
>bizarre if the details weren't checked.  And I find it pretty surprising
>to think that they wouldn't check this summer.  Is it because the
>checkers will be unemployed since the university is closed?  How will
>degrees be granted in such a case?

The typical scenario might involve a graduating senior short 3 hours. She
will proably have to take whatever she can find at the last minute - we
are not going to be too picky about that, if we have not offered a second
summer session, cancelling it at the last minute.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 15:01:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18429
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 15:01:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000EF0C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:18:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12683455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 21:18:18 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g641IIZ12470 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:18:18 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020704011812.STPC29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 01:18:12 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D237693.E1D78B0C@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020703161809.02b15980@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020703181019.029a0d60@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:15:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D238B11.1F903F23@maynor.net>

Natalie Maynor writes,

>What does seems ashish mean?  I don't want any more sweatshirts,
>though.  I was just curious about the seeming ashish.

You can tell from the little pictures of the sweatshirt material that it's
some sort of light gray, more like the ash gray shirts than the white
ones.  But it's hard to tell if it's entirely like the ash gray shirts.

Perhaps we could interest you in a nice 100% cotton canvas tote bag?

:)

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 15:06:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18438
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 15:06:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5ACBC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:17:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12683570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 21:23:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g641N2Z12807 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:23:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws231-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.231]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g641N0Q06162
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:23:00 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207032050050.27569-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D23A33D.15862516@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:22:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >> OUr NPR station, WUOT, says that under whatever proposal is apparently
...
>
> WUOT    -       it

I thought all NPR stations took on the call letters of their closest
tower, which means all universities, afaik.  I don't think of our
<local> NPR as exactly "our station" since the people talking on it are
in Jackson, even though it's identified at those identification
intervals as being at MSU.

> Since state funding does not <work> (unless you call not having a state
> univ. <working>) what would you suggest?

I'm not convinced that state funding doesn't work.

> >I heard something at lunch today in the (relatively brief) Tennessee
> >talk about being huge amounts in the red.  I will say that, as
> >frustrating it is at times and as much as I've never been sure it's a
> >good idea, the Mississippi rule of never operating in the red might not
> >be all bad.
>
> In the red? Not exactly - we just don't have enough funds to fund another
> year. We're, like, broke.

I can't remember now what it was somebody was saying at lunch --
something that made it sound in the red -- something about 8 million
dollars or some such.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 15:09:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18445
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 15:09:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5AD16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:21:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12683707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 21:26:30 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g641QUZ13065 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:26:30 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws231-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.231]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g641QSQ06796
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:26:28 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207032052460.27569-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D23A440.CC964459@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:26:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: corticosteroid shots
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> The typical scenario might involve a graduating senior short 3 hours. She
> will proably have to take whatever she can find at the last minute - we
> are not going to be too picky about that, if we have not offered a second
> summer session, cancelling it at the last minute.

I would find substituting a freshman course for a required upper-level
course quite strange, even in these circumstances.  I would think a
student could find something to take elsewhere that resembled the
required course.  Certainly it makes sense to have a little bit of
leeway involved -- like a transfer credit that seems borderline and thus
requiring great mulling might in this case be approved more quickly.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 15:12:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18452
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 15:12:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5AD65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:24:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12683810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 21:29:36 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g641TaZ13308 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:29:36 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws231-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.231]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g641TXQ07422
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:29:34 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031919230.224-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <3D239ABB.A8818671@maynor.net> <a04310118b9494f9dac3e@[192.168.1.1]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D23A4FA.6A10C1A4@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:29:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Janet Hardy wrote:

> There's no particular logic to these shifts, as far as I can tell; in
> my lifetime, I've seen a shift in which "colored person" is the mark
> of a bigot but "person of color" is the latest, safest terminology. I
> just try to use whatever seems up-to-the-minute, although they change
> often enough to be a bit challenging.

I try to use whatever people who are being labeled choose to be called.
What I find interesting is the discrepancies between what the people
involved want to be called and what somebody else decides they should
want to be called.  "Native American" is a good example.  (I use
"Indian" since that is the choice of the majority of so-called <Native
Americans>.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 15:13:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18459
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 15:13:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5AD78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:25:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12683830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 21:30:39 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g641UcZ13392 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:30:38 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws231-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.231]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g641UaQ07654
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:30:36 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D237693.E1D78B0C@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020703161809.02b15980@mail.istori.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020703181019.029a0d60@mail.istori.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D23A538.5AF2EF2E@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:30:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Kaminski wrote:

> Perhaps we could interest you in a nice 100% cotton canvas tote bag?

I've got too many tote bags.  Ditto mugs, though I may go with a mug
anyway.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 15:38:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18483
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 15:38:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5AFAF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:50:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12684401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 21:55:38 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g641tcZ15188 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002
          21:55:38 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JGY10425; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:55:28 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JPE34238; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:55:27 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D231E19.27635.1DEDE0@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:54:01 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Eyewitness report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris and Gene Markland make delightful lunch companions. Especially if
you have time to make the occasion stretch out over a couple of hours. And
especially if your lunch is served on the lanai, open to the outdoors and the
lush, green foliage, at the Waioli Tea Room. And most especially if you
discover that Gene can reach for the check faster than you can.


     mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 15:45:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18501
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 15:45:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000EF3CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:02:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12684698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 22:02:12 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6422BZ15904 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:02:11 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64229FA025358 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:02:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D238B11.1F903F23@maynor.net> <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D237693.E1D78B0C@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020703161809.02b15980@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020703190145.00a6f2d0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:02:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020703181019.029a0d60@mail.istori.com>

At 06:15 PM 7/3/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Natalie Maynor writes,
>
>>What does seems ashish mean?  I don't want any more sweatshirts,
>>though.  I was just curious about the seeming ashish.
>
>You can tell from the little pictures of the sweatshirt material that it's
>some sort of light gray, more like the ash gray shirts than the white
>ones.  But it's hard to tell if it's entirely like the ash gray shirts.
>
>Perhaps we could interest you in a nice 100% cotton canvas tote bag?
>
>:)
.
LOL.  Better for packing those books.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 16:20:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18555
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 16:20:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5B404@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:31:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12685524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 22:37:03 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g642R3Z18304 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:27:03 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g642R2OI007194 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:27:02 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207032225090.3802-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:27:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D23A33D.15862516@maynor.net>

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I thought all NPR stations took on the call letters of their closest
>tower, which means all universities, afaik.  I don't think of our
><local> NPR as exactly "our station" since the people talking on it are
>in Jackson, even though it's identified at those identification
>intervals as being at MSU.

I don't know about that. WUOT is a UT entity.

>> Since state funding does not <work> (unless you call not having a state
>> univ. <working>) what would you suggest?
>
>I'm not convinced that state funding doesn't work.

I call 10% state funding (as in Colo) not working. I expect to call
whatever we have in TN shortly not working.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 16:20:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18562
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 16:20:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000EF639@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:37:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12685533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 22:37:33 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g642RWZ18331 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:27:32 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g642RVOI007260 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:27:31 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207032227200.3802-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:27:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: corticosteroid shots
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D23A440.CC964459@maynor.net>

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
>> The typical scenario might involve a graduating senior short 3 hours. She
>> will proably have to take whatever she can find at the last minute - we
>> are not going to be too picky about that, if we have not offered a second
>> summer session, cancelling it at the last minute.
>
>I would find substituting a freshman course for a required upper-level
>course quite strange, even in these circumstances.  I would think a
>student could find something to take elsewhere that resembled the
>required course.  Certainly it makes sense to have a little bit of
>leeway involved -- like a transfer credit that seems borderline and thus
>requiring great mulling might in this case be approved more quickly.

My point.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 16:35:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18590
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 16:35:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5B62D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:46:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12685895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 22:52:12 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g642gCZ19519 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:42:12 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g642gCOI010478;
          Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:42:12 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207032240180.3802-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:42:12 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      cheap lastminute airline tickets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Last-minute airline ticket agencies rec'd by the WSJ 7/2/02:

Cheap Tickets   www.cheaptickets.com    Top Choice
Travelocity     www.travelocity.com     multiple flights
Hotwire         www.hotwire.com         pay before getting info
LastMinuteTravel www.lastminutetravel.com more expensive, very early
                                        flights
Priceline       www.priceline.com       no FFMs, slow because of
                                        "name your own price" structure

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 16:38:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18601
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 16:38:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000EF7A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:54:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12686168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 22:54:51 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g642ipZ19733 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:44:51 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g642ioOI011285 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:44:50 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207032242490.3802-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:44:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      stay tuned
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The House was supposed to have voted on a proposal tonight that would
enact a 1% additional sales tax and raise sin and amusement taxes. If that
is all they do, UT will be short next year at least 12 million dollars.
More shortly after 11.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 17:01:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18629
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 17:01:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5BEC8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 23:13:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12691163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Jul
          2002 23:18:23 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6438NZ23572 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 23:08:23 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6438NOI015947 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 23:08:23 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207032304320.3802-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 3 Jul 2002 23:08:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      no tax reform
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207032242490.3802-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

I still don't know many details. We will have a 1% additional sales tax
("but not on groceries" - what does that mean? no tax at all on
groceries? or no 1% increase on groceries?) and increases in the taxes
on certain kinds of sin (tobacco, booze) and certain amusements. This all
begins July 15. The amount of money raised will continue funding the state
and the univ at its present level. No increases.

Copout.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 17:52:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18680
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 17:52:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5C6E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 0:04:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12695259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 00:08:42 -0400
Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6448fZ29269 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 00:08:41 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.12e.13c56535 (2523) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002
          00:08:34 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <12e.13c56535.2a552442@aol.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 00:08:34 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: no tax reform
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/03/2002 10:18:25 PM Central Daylight Time,
dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes:

<<
We will have a 1% additional sales tax
("but not on groceries" - what does that mean? no tax at all on
groceries? or no 1% increase on groceries?)
>>

Are groceries taxed right now?  If so, it may be that the old tax rate
will still be charged.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 19:59:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA18804
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 19:59:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5D7E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 2:11:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12700079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 02:16:38 -0400
Received: from fido.kiva.net (fido.kiva.net [216.9.137.65]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g646GcZ07882 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 02:16:38 -0400
Received: (qmail 26187 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2002 06:16:37 -0000
Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by fido.kiva.net with SMTP; 4
          Jul 2002 06:16:37 -0000
Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id 0EC3934F11; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 01:16:38 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix)
          with ESMTP id 0E0322D643 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,  4 Jul
          2002 01:16:38 -0500 (EST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207040105320.14700-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 01:16:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tom Lee <flint@KIVA.NET>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D23A33D.15862516@maynor.net>

        I thought any radio station that paid for NPR programs could
broadcast them.  I guess there might be a restriction there somewhere --
perhaps NPR itself decides only to sell programming to noncommercial
stations, or there is some legal restriction that prevents NPR from
selling to commercial stations.  Does NPR have nonprofit status?  That
might do it if so.

        But anyway, for example, WNYC in New York has no university
affiliation, yet it is a public radio station that broadcasts NPR
programs.  Drake University (Des Moines, IA) has no radio stations, but
you can always tune in WOI, which is affiliated with Iowa State; both
university and station are in nearby Ames.  WOI-TV, however, is in Des
Moines, although it is also affiliated with ISU (unless they've sold it,
as they were contemplating doing when I left Iowa).  And here in
Bloomington there is a listener-funded radio station that does not buy NPR
programming but rather develops its own, kind of like public-access radio,
though I believe the format is music programs only.

--
Take care,
Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
WFIU listener/contributor

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> I thought all NPR stations took on the call letters of their closest
> tower, which means all universities, afaik.  I don't think of our
> <local> NPR as exactly "our station" since the people talking on it are
> in Jackson, even though it's identified at those identification
> intervals as being at MSU.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 20:33:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18919
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 20:33:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5DC74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 2:44:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12700767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 02:50:17 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g646oGZ10534 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 02:50:16 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g646rqw03526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 08:53:52
          +0200
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEFAFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <3D2374E0.E0CBD29A@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020704085352.A3505@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 08:53:52 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Goo-Gone
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2374E0.E0CBD29A@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Wed,
              Jul 03, 2002 at 05:04:16PM -0500

On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 05:04:16PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote:
= today.  I ended the task shortly after noon today, except that I had
= hoped to vacuum up the paper scuzz all around the filing cabinets, but I
= couldn't find the custodial vacuum cleaners and couldn't bring mine from
= home since it's broken.  Or rather I could have brought it, but it
= wouldn't have served a purpose.  So I left a note for Wilma, the person
= who cleans our floor, apologizing for the mess, then ran into her in the
= basement as I was leaving and apologized ftf.  She told me not to worry
= -- that it was not a problem.
=

Just in case any of you didn't notice, this is what Natalie means
by not imposing on someone.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 21:02:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18963
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 21:02:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5E038@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 3:13:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12701336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 03:19:17 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g647JHZ12942 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 03:19:17 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g647MrC03610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:22:53
          +0200
References: <NGKAMFHCJIGAFAAA@shared1-mail.whowhere.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020704092253.A3600@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:22:53 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <NGKAMFHCJIGAFAAA@shared1-mail.whowhere.com>; from
              rmirth@EUDORAMAIL.COM on Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 05:19:13PM -0400

On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 05:19:13PM -0400, Rashmi Murthy wrote:
= Alec [about Steph]:
=
= > She lives in Amsterdam. She travels sometimes to see people in Belgium.
=
= Do you have the 22nd (of July) off, Steph? I'll be in Antwerpen
= 7/21-28 and don't have to work that Monday.
=

I don't have it off (is that like a Belgian holiday or
something?).  But arrangements can be made.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 22:48:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA19056
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 28 May 1960 22:48:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E5F72E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 4:59:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12703036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 05:04:54 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6494rZ19047 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 05:04:53 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6498US03724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 11:08:30
          +0200
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020703195818.B2227@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D234151.ECC651B1@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020704110830.A3712@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 11:08:30 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D234151.ECC651B1@uclink.berkeley.edu>; from
              bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU on Wed, Jul 03,
              2002 at 11:24:17AM -0700

= > =
= > =  http://www.cafepress.com/batfest
= >
= > Yay!  I, for some reason, decided not to suggest this.  Hmmmm.
=
= Why didn't you want to suggest it? Do you think it is whorish enough for
= Marie?
=
= Betty

I am apparently not in a risk taking mode, and not willing to
have ideas shot down in public.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 00:28:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA19142
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 00:28:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6109E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 6:40:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12701401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 06:45:20 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64AjBZ25415 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 06:45:11 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws73-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.73]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64Aj8Q10205
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 05:45:08 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207032225090.3802-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D242704.4166D770@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 05:44:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> I don't know about that. WUOT is a UT entity.

We have our own radio station, of course, but it's run totally by the
university.  I.e., it's not part of NPR/PRM.  The NPR one also
identifies itself as being here, but it's really just a substation(?) of
PRM.

> >I'm not convinced that state funding doesn't work.
>
> I call 10% state funding (as in Colo) not working. I expect to call
> whatever we have in TN shortly not working.

Is it 10% in Colorado because that's all they can squeeze from the
state, or is it that that's all they need from the state?  I don't
remember what our percent is, though I've seen the figure.  Whatever it
is, I'm glad we're a state institution, since I'm glad I'm a member of
the state retirement system.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 00:31:45 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA19154
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 00:31:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F0DC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 6:48:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12701514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 06:48:22 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64AmLZ25813 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 06:48:21 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws73-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.73]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64AmJQ10473
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 05:48:20 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207032304320.3802-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2427F0.1A44E65A@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 05:48:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: no tax reform
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> I still don't know many details. We will have a 1% additional sales tax
> ("but not on groceries" - what does that mean? no tax at all on
> groceries? or no 1% increase on groceries?) and increases in the taxes

I would interpret it to mean the latter -- that groceries will continue
to have the current sales tax and that everything else will move up 1%.

> on certain kinds of sin (tobacco, booze) and certain amusements. This all
> begins July 15. The amount of money raised will continue funding the state
> and the univ at its present level. No increases.
>
> Copout.

That doesn't sound bad to me.  Funding at its present level is certainly
better than Mississippi universities have seen for the past several
years.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 00:35:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA19159
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 00:35:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E613EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 6:46:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12701552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 06:52:01 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64Aq0Z26059 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 06:52:00 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws73-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.73]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64ApvQ10856
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 05:51:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEFAFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <3D2374E0.E0CBD29A@maynor.net>
            <20020704085352.A3505@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2428C8.FB52D5E7@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 05:51:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Goo-Gone
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> = who cleans our floor, apologizing for the mess, then ran into her in the
> = basement as I was leaving and apologized ftf.  She told me not to worry
> = -- that it was not a problem.
>
> Just in case any of you didn't notice, this is what Natalie means
> by not imposing on someone.

This isn't the kind of thing I had in mind when we were talking about
imposing on people, though I guess I see the relationship.  I consider
it just basic courtesy not to dump extra work on somebody, even though
that person is getting paid to do a job.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 02:49:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19331
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 02:49:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E63F42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 9:01:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12704125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 09:06:28 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64CuRZ16460 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 08:56:27 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64CuROI008596 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 08:56:27 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207040855470.2365-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 08:56:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: no tax reform
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <12e.13c56535.2a552442@aol.com>

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>We will have a 1% additional sales tax
>("but not on groceries" - what does that mean? no tax at all on
>groceries? or no 1% increase on groceries?)
>>>
>
>Are groceries taxed right now?  If so, it may be that the old tax rate
>will still be charged.

Yes. And right - that is one of the two possibilities, I think.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 02:51:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19338
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 02:51:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E63F9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 9:02:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12704233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 09:07:40 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64CvdZ16696 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 08:57:39 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64CvdOI008745 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 08:57:39 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207040856540.2365-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 08:57:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie, Ihope you never go this far:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
I have been made aware of a woman in Chicago whose apartment building was
condemned, and all residents locked out.  Her new job doesn't start for two
weeks, and she's in quite a bind.

Her friends (not in Chicago) are very worried about her.  They say she never
asks for help.  She's been in severe physical distress before (bleeding),
and walked a mile to the hospital instead of asking for help.
-----

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 02:57:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19348
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 02:57:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F1219@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 9:14:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12704466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 09:14:25 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64D4OZ17295 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:04:24 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64D4OOI009688 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:04:24 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207040901280.2365-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:04:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D242704.4166D770@maynor.net>

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>Is it 10% in Colorado because that's all they can squeeze from the
>state,

I am not aware of squeezing action, but in fact that is all the state will
give them. I see no reason for a 10% donor to call  very many shots.

>is, I'm glad we're a state institution, since I'm glad I'm a member of
>the state retirement system.

That is probably an inadequate reason for making such a decision. "Uh,
folks, we are going to keep UT public, since Bethany likes being a
member of TCRS." Especailly since MOST faculty here choose NOT to be
members of TCRS.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 03:05:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19366
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 03:05:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E641E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 9:16:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12704702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 09:21:48 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64DBmZ17998 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:11:48 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64DBlOI011163 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:11:48 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207040904440.2365-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:11:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: no tax reform
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2427F0.1A44E65A@maynor.net>

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>> begins July 15. The amount of money raised will continue funding the state
>> and the univ at its present level. No increases.
>
>That doesn't sound bad to me.  Funding at its present level is certainly
>better than Mississippi universities have seen for the past several
>years.

The huge downside emanates from the realities of inflation, rain drain,
and liability.

Many costs, especially insurance costs, rise each year because of
inflation. So for the same buck, one either gets less bang - or pays for
it out of faculty salaries in the form of increased fees for parking,
insurance, etc. Faculty salaries are shrinking due to inflation. Faculty
are leaving in droves because of low salaries and less bang for the
buck. Buildings are in need of repair - and their condition leads to
increased liability for the university.

As I said, relying on public funding will not keep us going ... just
because Mississippi or Montana or wherever has worse problems is no excuse
for us not to think creatively. The one immediate, sensible solution is a
modest state income tax. Most legislators are so afraid of not being
re-elected if they vote for one that they will not vote for one. Greed +
incompetence on the part of legislators = disaster for the university.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 03:15:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA20429
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 03:15:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E643CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 9:26:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12705805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 09:31:48 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe70.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.205]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64DVmZ21480 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:31:48 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          4 Jul 2002 06:31:42 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207031919230.224-100000@og1.olagrande.net>         
            <3D239ABB.A8818671@maynor.net> 
            <a04310118b9494f9dac3e@[192.168.1.1]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2002 13:31:42.0588 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[2267ABC0:01C2235F]
Message-ID:  <OE70p28uHi36o6wd26z00004d51@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 08:30:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The problem with doing this sort of thing is that it is a shell game.
Suppose, for the sake of argument, that the word "oriental" has taken on
terribly bigoted semantic baggage and is only used by people who want to
disparage an ethnic group. If suddenly we make the word "oriental" illegal
and substitute another word, say "asian," then it won't be long before the
same semantic baggage becomes attached to the new word. If society really
want to single out a particular group for ill treatment by labeling its
members with a word that carrries bad connotations, then jokes, stories, and
so on will start to appear in popular discourse--these jokes will ridicule
the change or stigmatize the word "asian" by deliberately using it in a way
that is shocking or sensational.

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 03:15:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA20433
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 03:15:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F12EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 9:32:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12705816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 09:32:12 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64DWBZ21550 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:32:11 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64DWAFA026512 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 06:32:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D234151.ECC651B1@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020703195818.B2227@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D234151.ECC651B1@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020704063048.00a74df0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 06:32:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020704110830.A3712@yoccoz.multinix.com>

At 11:08 AM 7/4/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>= > =
>= > =  http://www.cafepress.com/batfest
>= >
>= > Yay!  I, for some reason, decided not to suggest this.  Hmmmm.
>=
>= Why didn't you want to suggest it? Do you think it is whorish enough for
>= Marie?
>=
>= Betty
>
>I am apparently not in a risk taking mode, and not willing to
>have ideas shot down in public.
.
Don't tell anyone and do it behind their backs.  Present finished product
and give credit to someone else.  :-)

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 03:20:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA20810
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 03:20:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E644BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 9:31:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12705042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 09:36:40 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64DQeZ19068 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:26:40 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64DQeOI013858 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:26:40 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207040921441.2365-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:26:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      TN details
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"[t]he plan [will] raise the state sales tax from 6 to 7 percent. Food
w[ill] be excluded from the tax increase.

Local governments will still be allowed to collect up to 2.75 percent on
top of the state rate."

That means that some counties in TN will have a sales tax of 9.75%. In
Knox County, it will be 9.25%. It will remain  8.25% on groceries. I still
plan to invest in a small chest freezer - for various reasons. I have
wanted one anyway, and the fiscal climate is right.

"The tax will generate $933 million. The bill w[ill] give Tennessee one of
the highest sales taxes in the country."

And it is regressive as hell for low-income families and individuals.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 03:21:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA20814
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 03:21:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E64507@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 9:32:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12706348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 09:38:19 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64DcJZ23134 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:38:19 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust156.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.158]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003692006@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 09:38:16 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIEOEFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D244F08.69A3F0A@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:35:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Saturday
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:
>
> But how do you feel about overnight guests? :D

I have a guest room with a double bed. I don't stock much in the way of
breakfast foods, but do have coffee. When is it?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 04:04:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20858
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 04:04:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E648CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:15:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12707715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 10:21:20 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64ELKZ27695 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:21:20 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws145-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.145]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64ELHQ07159
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:21:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207040856540.2365-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2459D9.9EE8AC56@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:21:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" quoted:

> and walked a mile to the hospital instead of asking for help.

I need to measure the distance from my house to the hospital.  I bet
it's about a mile.  And yes, I'd walk it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 04:05:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20869
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 04:05:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E648CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:16:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12707724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 10:22:11 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64EMAZ27762 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:22:10 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws145-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.145]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64EM6Q07267
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:22:07 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207040901280.2365-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D245A0B.79E8EBDB@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:22:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >is, I'm glad we're a state institution, since I'm glad I'm a member of
> >the state retirement system.
>
> That is probably an inadequate reason for making such a decision. "Uh,

No doubt.  It was simply a comment on my gratefulness that we are a
state school.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 04:08:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20873
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 04:08:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E648E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:19:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12707798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 10:24:48 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64EOlZ27973 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:24:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws145-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.145]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64EOjQ07824
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:24:45 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207040904440.2365-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D245AA9.C7856452@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:24:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: no tax reform
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

>  Faculty salaries are shrinking due to inflation. Faculty
> are leaving in droves because of low salaries and less bang for the

Here also.  We've lost huge numbers in the past few years.

> for us not to think creatively. The one immediate, sensible solution is a
> modest state income tax. Most legislators are so afraid of not being

That's a frequent comment I've heard when people have discussed the
recent crisis.  Some people in the conversations are always amazed to
hear that Tennessee doesn't have income tax.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 04:15:31 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20924
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 04:15:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F1530@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:32:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12708113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 10:32:02 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64EW1Z28898 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:32:02 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g64EZdw04280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:35:39
          +0200
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207040856540.2365-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D2459D9.9EE8AC56@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020704163539.A4270@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:35:39 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2459D9.9EE8AC56@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Thu,
              Jul 04, 2002 at 09:21:13AM -0500

On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 09:21:13AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote:
= "Bethany K. Dumas" quoted:
=
= > and walked a mile to the hospital instead of asking for help.
=
= I need to measure the distance from my house to the hospital.  I bet
= it's about a mile.  And yes, I'd walk it.
=

Even if you were bleeding so severly or in such a place that you
couldn't drive?  Or broke your leg?  Or just severly sprained
your ankle?

(or more likely, calling an ambulance in such a situation is no
an imposition: it's their job to come rescue you)

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 04:16:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20928
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 04:16:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E64939@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:27:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12708129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 10:33:14 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64EXEZ28957 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:33:14 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g64Eap304289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:36:51
          +0200
References: <3D234151.ECC651B1@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020703195818.B2227@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D234151.ECC651B1@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020704110830.A3712@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <4.2.2.20020704063048.00a74df0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020704163651.B4270@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:36:51 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020704063048.00a74df0@uclink.berkeley.edu>; from
              bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU on Thu, Jul 04,
              2002 at 06:32:02AM -0700

= Don't tell anyone and do it behind their backs.  Present finished product
= and give credit to someone else.  :-)
=
= Betty

I see that this method has it's advantages.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 04:20:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20932
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 04:20:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E64958@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:31:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12708209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 10:36:44 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64EahZ29203 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:36:43 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64EagFA032450 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 07:36:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020704063048.00a74df0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D234151.ECC651B1@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020703195818.B2227@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D234151.ECC651B1@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020704110830.A3712@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <4.2.2.20020704063048.00a74df0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020704073553.00a3cbf0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 07:36:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020704163651.B4270@yoccoz.multinix.com>

At 04:36 PM 7/4/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>= Don't tell anyone and do it behind their backs.  Present finished product
>= and give credit to someone else.  :-)
>=
>= Betty
>
>I see that this method has it's advantages.
.
Karen said that she liked it , too, so it had to be made!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 06:39:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21142
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 06:39:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E65944@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:50:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12713353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 12:56:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64GuCZ12116 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:56:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4E7017EE2; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 09:56:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704165611.4E7017EE2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:56:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207040105320.14700-100000@mayhem.kiva.net> from
              Tom Lee at "Jul 4, 2002  1:16:38 am"

There are lots of non-university-affiliated public radio stations.

Karen

Tom Lee said:
>         I thought any radio station that paid for NPR programs could
> broadcast them.  I guess there might be a restriction there somewhere --
> perhaps NPR itself decides only to sell programming to noncommercial
> stations, or there is some legal restriction that prevents NPR from
> selling to commercial stations.  Does NPR have nonprofit status?  That
> might do it if so.
>
>         But anyway, for example, WNYC in New York has no university
> affiliation, yet it is a public radio station that broadcasts NPR
> programs.  Drake University (Des Moines, IA) has no radio stations, but
> you can always tune in WOI, which is affiliated with Iowa State; both
> university and station are in nearby Ames.  WOI-TV, however, is in Des
> Moines, although it is also affiliated with ISU (unless they've sold it,
> as they were contemplating doing when I left Iowa).  And here in
> Bloomington there is a listener-funded radio station that does not buy NPR
> programming but rather develops its own, kind of like public-access radio,
> though I believe the format is music programs only.
>
> --
> Take care,
> Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
> WFIU listener/contributor
>
> On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> > I thought all NPR stations took on the call letters of their closest
> > tower, which means all universities, afaik.  I don't think of our
> > <local> NPR as exactly "our station" since the people talking on it are
> > in Jackson, even though it's identified at those identification
> > intervals as being at MSU.
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 06:45:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21157
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 06:45:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6599C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:56:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12713627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:02:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64H27Z12737 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:02:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6263B7EEF; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 10:02:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704170206.6263B7EEF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:02:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020704073553.00a3cbf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 4, 2002  7:36:34 am"

Betty said:
> At 04:36 PM 7/4/2002 +0200, you wrote:
> >= Don't tell anyone and do it behind their backs.  Present finished product
> >= and give credit to someone else.  :-)
> >=
> >= Betty
> >
> >I see that this method has it's advantages.
> .
> Karen said that she liked it , too, so it had to be made!

Oh, yeah, like you all do what I say. Here I sit, all alone with
nothing to do...

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 06:49:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21166
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 06:49:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E659CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:00:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12713769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:05:55 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64H5sZ13058 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:05:54 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws106-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.106]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64H5pQ04408
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:05:53 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207040856540.2365-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D2459D9.9EE8AC56@maynor.net>
            <20020704163539.A4270@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24806B.7E14BDBF@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:05:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> = I need to measure the distance from my house to the hospital.  I bet
> = it's about a mile.  And yes, I'd walk it.
>
> Even if you were bleeding so severly or in such a place that you
> couldn't drive?  Or broke your leg?  Or just severly sprained
> your ankle?

It depends.  There's always 911.  I just mean that I would walk if I
could.  If I couldn't, then I'd have to call 911.

> (or more likely, calling an ambulance in such a situation is no
> an imposition: it's their job to come rescue you)

Correct.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 06:52:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21177
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 06:52:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E659DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:03:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12713422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:08:33 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f112.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.112]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64GwXZ12312 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:58:33 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          4 Jul 2002 09:58:27 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 04
          Jul 2002 16:58:27 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2002 16:58:27.0990 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[0499CB60:01C2237C]
Message-ID:  <F112gVBYJmczY4YhwfU0000512a@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:58:27 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Steph:

>= Do you have the 22nd (of July) off, Steph? I'll be in Antwerpen
>= 7/21-28 and don't have to work that Monday.

>I don't have it off (is that like a Belgian holiday or
>something?).  But arrangements can be made.

Yeah, they must be like the Yankees of Europe or something. They
get so many days off in summer I've given up keeping track.
Meanwhile we don't have tomorrow off.

-rashmi


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 06:52:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21181
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 06:52:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E659E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:03:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12713857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:09:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64H93Z13318 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:09:03 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3B6317F25; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 10:09:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704170902.3B6317F25@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:09:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24806B.7E14BDBF@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 4,
              2002 12: 5:47 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> It depends.  There's always 911.  I just mean that I would walk if I
> could.  If I couldn't, then I'd have to call 911.
>
> > (or more likely, calling an ambulance in such a situation is no
> > an imposition: it's their job to come rescue you)
>
> Correct.

Well, if you phone an ambulance, the emergency room can turn you away.
This is becoming an increasing problem in Austin. I'd be more likely
to call a friend, because they won't turn your body away if you show
up.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 06:52:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21185
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 06:52:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E659E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:03:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12713861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:09:16 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64H9FZ13326 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:09:16 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64H2Ab02129 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:02:10 -0400
Received: from knowleshollow ([131.128.122.102]) by terms.uri.edu
          (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id g64H8dk24338 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:08:39 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001201c2237d$555f0550$0100a8c0@knowleshollow>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:07:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Alan Wild <awild@URI.EDU>
Subject:      History of the vibrator...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Is this a spoof, or what?

http://www.bettydodson.com/org-tech.htm

Verdie?


'Alan the Shamelessly Naive

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 06:53:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21189
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 06:53:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E659EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:04:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12713876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:10:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HA0Z13355 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:10:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 807937F1C; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 10:09:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704170959.807937F1C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:09:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020704170902.3B6317F25@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at
              "Jul 4, 2002 10: 9: 2 am"

Karen Kay said:
> Natalie Maynor said:
> > It depends.  There's always 911.  I just mean that I would walk if I
> > could.  If I couldn't, then I'd have to call 911.
> >
> > > (or more likely, calling an ambulance in such a situation is no
> > > an imposition: it's their job to come rescue you)
> >
> > Correct.
>
> Well, if you phone an ambulance, the emergency room can turn you away.
> This is becoming an increasing problem in Austin. I'd be more likely
> to call a friend, because they won't turn your body away if you show
> up.

I forgot to add the cost: ambulances are very expensive, and most of
the time, insurance doesn't cover them.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 06:54:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21193
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 06:54:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E659F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:05:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12713914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:10:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HAiZ13462 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:10:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 764767F2D; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 10:10:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704171043.764767F2D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:10:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: History of the vibrator...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <001201c2237d$555f0550$0100a8c0@knowleshollow> from Alan Wild at
              "Jul 4, 2002  1: 7:52 pm"

Alan Wild said:
> Is this a spoof, or what?
>
> http://www.bettydodson.com/org-tech.htm
>
> Verdie?

No. Betty Dodson is a famous masturbation teacher and enthusiast.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 06:55:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21197
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 06:55:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E65A01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:06:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12713953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:11:57 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HBvZ13542 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:11:57 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws106-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.106]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64HBtQ05329
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:11:55 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020704165611.4E7017EE2@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2481D7.7C5E866E@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:11:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> There are lots of non-university-affiliated public radio stations.

My point that Tom was responding to was certainly not meant to suggest
that all NPR stations are connected with universities.  Clearly they're
not.  It was that I thought pretty much all universities did have an NPR
station identified with them.

But Tom's main point makes sense -- that probably any non-profit station
can buy NPR programming.  I don't think our campus station does since it
would duplicate the local PRM broadcasting.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 06:56:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21201
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 06:56:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E65A0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:08:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12713991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:13:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HDPZ13674 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:13:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 96A507F1D; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 10:13:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704171324.96A507F1D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:13:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2481D7.7C5E866E@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 4,
              2002 12:11:51 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > There are lots of non-university-affiliated public radio stations.
>
> My point that Tom was responding to was certainly not meant to suggest
> that all NPR stations are connected with universities.  Clearly they're
> not.  It was that I thought pretty much all universities did have an NPR
> station identified with them.

I think both generalizations are untrue.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 06:57:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21205
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 06:57:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E65A18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:08:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12714027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:14:12 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HECZ13765 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:14:12 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws106-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.106]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64HE9Q05675
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:14:09 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020704170902.3B6317F25@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24825E.612782B9@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:14:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Well, if you phone an ambulance, the emergency room can turn you away.
> This is becoming an increasing problem in Austin. I'd be more likely
> to call a friend, because they won't turn your body away if you show
> up.

I've never heard of anybody's being turned away from the emergency room
here.  I don't think I have any friends in Starkville who can set broken
legs.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 06:59:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21209
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 06:59:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E65A2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:10:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12714088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:15:42 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HFgZ13914 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:15:42 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws106-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.106]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64HFeQ05956
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:15:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020704170959.807937F1C@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2482B8.9A19B73E@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:15:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I forgot to add the cost: ambulances are very expensive, and most of
> the time, insurance doesn't cover them.

All the more reason to walk to the hospital if you can.  The ambulance
experiences of people I've known have been covered by their insurance.
(But that's not a huge number of people.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 07:00:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21219
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 07:00:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E65A30@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:11:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12714108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:16:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HGxZ13963 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:16:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5D6E37F25; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 10:16:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704171658.5D6E37F25@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:16:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24825E.612782B9@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 4,
              2002 12:14: 6 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Well, if you phone an ambulance, the emergency room can turn you away.
> > This is becoming an increasing problem in Austin. I'd be more likely
> > to call a friend, because they won't turn your body away if you show
> > up.
>
> I've never heard of anybody's being turned away from the emergency room
> here.  I don't think I have any friends in Starkville who can set broken
> legs.

I didn't suggest that. If your friend takes you to the emergency room
(as opposed to an ambulance), they won't turn you away, even if they
are closed to ambulances.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 07:01:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21223
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 07:01:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F1B50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:17:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12714134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:17:39 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HHdZ14040 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:17:39 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws106-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.106]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64HHaQ06219
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:17:37 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020704171324.96A507F1D@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24832D.3B1E7E4D@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:17:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > My point that Tom was responding to was certainly not meant to suggest
> > that all NPR stations are connected with universities.  Clearly they're
> > not.  It was that I thought pretty much all universities did have an NPR
> > station identified with them.
>
> I think both generalizations are untrue.

Both?  I see only one -- that most universities have an NPR station (or
tower or substation or whatever) identified with them.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 07:03:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21227
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 07:03:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E65A42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:14:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12714167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:19:42 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HJgZ14140 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:19:42 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws106-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.106]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64HJdQ06543
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:19:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020704171658.5D6E37F25@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2483A8.E5FA97AF@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:19:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I didn't suggest that. If your friend takes you to the emergency room
> (as opposed to an ambulance), they won't turn you away, even if they
> are closed to ambulances.

Huh?  Why would an emergency room be closed to ambulances?  Where else
do ambulances usually go?  The ambulances at our hospital live right
outside the emergency room.  That's where they take off from when
somebody calls for one, and that's where they return with the person.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 07:03:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21231
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 07:03:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E65A45@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:14:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12714179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:20:11 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HKAZ14199 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:20:10 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 01CEF7F41; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 10:20:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704172009.01CEF7F41@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:20:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24832D.3B1E7E4D@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 4,
              2002 12:17:33 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > > My point that Tom was responding to was certainly not meant to suggest
> > > that all NPR stations are connected with universities.  Clearly they're
> > > not.  It was that I thought pretty much all universities did have an NPR
> > > station identified with them.
> >
> > I think both generalizations are untrue.
>
> Both?  I see only one -- that most universities have an NPR station (or
> tower or substation or whatever) identified with them.

The generalization Tom thought you were making (as did I) and the one
you actually made.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 07:05:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21236
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 07:05:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000F1B6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:21:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12714206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:21:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HLVZ14269 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:21:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DB4E17F28; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 10:21:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704172130.DB4E17F28@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:21:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2483A8.E5FA97AF@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 4,
              2002 12:19:36 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Huh?  Why would an emergency room be closed to ambulances?

Because they are overly busy.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 07:05:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21240
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 07:05:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E65A50@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:16:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12713947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:21:41 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f57.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.57]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HBfZ13527 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:11:41 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          4 Jul 2002 10:11:35 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 04
          Jul 2002 17:11:35 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2002 17:11:35.0772 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[DA27C9C0:01C2237D]
Message-ID:  <F57Uix1TjtTu15pzWxR00003e79@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:11:35 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen:

>Oh, yeah, like you all do what I say. Here I sit, all alone with
>nothing to do...

:-( I almost never wear my Words-L shirts these days but pulled
out the Wordstock tee this morning.

-rashmi


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 07:12:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21244
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 07:12:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E65A94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:23:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12714494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:29:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HT2Z15136 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:29:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws106-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.106]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64HSxQ07847
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:29:00 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020704172130.DB4E17F28@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2485D8.6FC24A93@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:28:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > Huh?  Why would an emergency room be closed to ambulances?
>
> Because they are overly busy.

If they're turning away people because they're overly busy, why wouldn't
they turn away somebody brought by a friend?  Seems to me the person
brought by an ambulance might be in greater need of help.

I assume if our emergency room gets that busy, they'll simply tell the
ambulances not to go when called.

Actually, emergency-room stuff isn't the only use of our hospital's
ambulances, even though they do indeed live right outside that door.
But I see them at my mother's nursing home from time to time when I
don't think it's an emergency call.  I think they're used for hauling a
bedridden patient across the street to the hospital for tests or
whatever.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 07:14:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21251
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 07:14:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E65AA3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:25:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12714543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:30:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HUwZ15331 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:30:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4C8277F9E; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 10:30:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704173027.4C8277F9E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:30:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2485D8.6FC24A93@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 4,
              2002 12:28:56 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> If they're turning away people because they're overly busy, why wouldn't
> they turn away somebody brought by a friend?  Seems to me the person
> brought by an ambulance might be in greater need of help.

I think that's why; takes greater resources.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 07:15:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21265
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 07:15:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F1BCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:32:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12714573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:32:19 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HWJZ15464 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:32:19 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws106-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.106]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64HWHQ08346
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:32:17 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020704172130.DB4E17F28@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2485D8.6FC24A93@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24869D.67C546AC@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:32:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I just found a picture of one of our ambulances heading up the road to
the emergency room.  If you look carefully, you can see the other
ambulances parked by the lighted door (at rest -- to the right of the
door when looking at the picture):

http://www.och.org/images/mainphotonew.jpg

I don't know how many ambulances there are.  I've wondered about that
before.  My guess is maybe three.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 07:16:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21270
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 07:16:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E65AB2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:28:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12714589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:33:23 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HXJZ15528 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:33:19 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id UAA08118 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:33:18
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA08035 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,
          4 Jul 2002 20:33:16 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <002201c222a0$d1684ae0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
            <3D23721E.355E7625@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2486C7.AD77EFD7@akad.ee>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:32:55 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: July 4th
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:
>
> > Happy Independence Day. My your fireworks be wonderful, your hotdog be
> > tasty and be surrounded by good friends.
>
> I'm visualizing a bunch of good friends closing in on a single hotdog.

...closing in [independently] on a single hotdog.

Have a happy Day!

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 07:38:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21347
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 07:38:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F1C9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:54:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12715173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 13:54:37 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HsaZ17427 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:54:36 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id UAA11940 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:54:35
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA11857 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,
          4 Jul 2002 20:54:34 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702191643.18B1D86A9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D21FD46.800A9B96@akad.ee>
            <20020702225909.D32548@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D248BC5.83C620DB@akad.ee>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:54:13 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> Cool.  We'll have to figure out how/where to hook up.

Yes. Yes!

Although I said, "a day in Amsterdam", now, reading the general schedule of
the trip it seems shorter than a day.

July 24th: staying overnight in Belgium (where exactly - I do not know)

July 25th: to Amsterdam. At night we are in London already. It is hard for me
to imagine how long it'll take for the bus to arrive in A., and then, through
the Tunnel, in England. But I guess we all want to get up early, to see more.

I'm afraid I cannot know before the trip how quickly other people want to go
on to London. I guess we make more detailed plans during the trip. But I hope,
just hope, many of them haven't seen Amsterdam.

Maybe there's a possibility to agree with you, Steph, something like, at noon
in such or such place -- when you have a break at work, in place that is not
too far for you, too. Our plans in the general schedule are to walk in Old
Town, see the King's Castle, go to Dam, walk at the channels. (O my, now I do
not know what is Dam! But I'll find out soon. I'll try to find map of
Amsterdam, too, in the Internet.)

It would be great to see you, Steph -- both personally you, and then you'd be
the first wordsler with whom I could ftf.

Kristin, excited, not calm at all

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 07:46:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21370
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 07:46:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6602C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:57:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12715143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 14:02:31 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64HqVZ17302 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:52:31 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64HqVOI003635 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:52:31 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041352110.4432-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:52:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2459D9.9EE8AC56@maynor.net>

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> and walked a mile to the hospital instead of asking for help.
>
>I need to measure the distance from my house to the hospital.  I bet
>it's about a mile.  And yes, I'd walk it.

Bleeding to death? I should have known.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 07:49:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21374
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 07:49:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6603D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:00:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12715515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 14:05:34 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64I5XZ18519 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:05:33 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id VAA13594 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:05:32
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA13509 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,
          4 Jul 2002 21:05:31 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020702191643.18B1D86A9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D21FD46.800A9B96@akad.ee>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D248E56.7787E885@akad.ee>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:05:10 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Kristin Sarv wrote:

>  I'll send the itinerary on another day,

So: July 23rd: Tartu-Tallinn-Rostock (by bus and ship)

24th: to Belgium

25th: Amsterdam; to London

26th: York. Night in Teesside

27th: towards Scotland: Jedburg, Edinburgh, night there

28th: Stirling, whisky factory(an another word should be used, I guess,
which I cannot rememember at the moment)

29th: Loch Ness, Drumnadrochit,  Fort William, Fort Augustus

30th: Gretna Green, Chester

31st: Windsor, London

Aug 1st: more in London

2nd-3rd: Going back home

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 07:55:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21381
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 07:55:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6606D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:07:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12715741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 14:12:25 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64ICOZ19274 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:12:24 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id VAA14278 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:12:23
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA14195 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,
          4 Jul 2002 21:12:22 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <f3.1d65a9af.2a53ce6a@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D248FF1.670B424D@akad.ee>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:12:01 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: work'n'whistle
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Evelyn Duncan wrote:

> If only my manager would thank me for working the long hours or ask
> me if I'm getting along OK,

Yes :-(

I hope you *are* getting along OK, although I know you've had tough times
and still do.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 08:17:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21417
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 08:17:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E66280@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:28:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12716384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 14:33:29 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64IXTZ21073 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:33:29 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust222.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.224]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003696852@mx0.inoc.net>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:33:29 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24941A.3960BCC3@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:29:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

ENTERTAINMENT MEDIA ANALYSIS REPORT:
*MEN IN BLACK II* (PG-13)

Men in Black II contains nudity rarely seen even in
R-rated features.  It presents an alien with a full human scrotum under
its chin. The level of detail leaves absolutely no doubt it is there to
present
unprecedented nudity to younger and younger children every year.

alyce
--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 08:25:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21428
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 08:25:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000F1E33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:41:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12716510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 14:41:28 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64IfSZ21659 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:41:28 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust222.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.224]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005005041@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 14:41:28 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020704170902.3B6317F25@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2495F8.804B99BC@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:37:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Natalie Maynor said:

> Well, if you phone an ambulance, the emergency room can turn you away.
> This is becoming an increasing problem in Austin. I'd be more likely
> to call a friend, because they won't turn your body away if you show
> up.

Don't kid yourself. In Chicago, my alcholic boss (one of my first jobs),
decided to drink himself to death, leaving me alone to do our work (PR).
For a few days he called, etc., but then he didn't, so I went to his
apartment and found him passed out in the bathroom under the basin.
Small quarters, couldn't move him, called police. They got him out of
there, into squad car, and drove us both 1/2 block to Northwestern U.
hospital, whose name I have forgotten. They would not admit him because
he had no insurance. I offered to guarantee payment. Tough. Did I
mention this was a bitter cold, snowy night? So I was left on the steps
of the hospital with a barely alive drunk. I pleaded and pleaded and
finally a nurse said I could put him onto a gurney until he woke up. As
soon as he did, we were put out into the cold. I dragged him back to his
apt. and up three flights of stairs (he lived in a brownstone).
One of the worst nights of my life. He died of drink finally, after
about three more years of it. Too bad. Talented and lovely person.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 08:29:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21435
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 08:29:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E66390@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:40:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12716622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 14:46:12 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f154.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.154]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64IkCZ22078 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:46:12 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          4 Jul 2002 11:46:06 -0700
Received: from 209.244.177.51 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu,
          04 Jul 2002 18:46:06 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [209.244.177.51]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2002 18:46:06.0968 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[0E739F80:01C2238B]
Message-ID:  <F154vavGbfLtnPfj1it00006f72@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:46:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
>Marie Ascher wrote:
> > >From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
> > >Thanks for the effort. I always need a another t-shirt.
> >
> > I need another t-shirt like you need another coffee mug. Can I really
>order
> > a coffee mug?
>
>Yes!  And an apron for *uc* or is it *ic*?  I forgot.

*ic* it was. *uc* it is.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 08:31:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21447
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 08:31:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E663C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:42:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12716669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 14:47:55 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f230.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.230]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64IltZ22220 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:47:55 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          4 Jul 2002 11:47:49 -0700
Received: from 209.244.177.51 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu,
          04 Jul 2002 18:47:49 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [209.244.177.51]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2002 18:47:49.0599 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[4B9FDEF0:01C2238B]
Message-ID:  <F230a2pwJfANYkIhsZS00007086@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:47:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: http://cafepress.com/batfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
>AS, off to a party at Kentucky Lake

What are you wearing?

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 08:37:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21451
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 08:37:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F1EE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:53:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12716810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 14:53:54 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64IrrZ22754 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:53:53 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-145.panax.com
          [65.114.190.145]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g64Irsj32676 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:53:55
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020704144930.00b40270@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:51:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: TN details
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207040921441.2365-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

At 09:26 AM 7/4/2002 -0400, bethany wrote:
>"The tax will generate $933 million. The bill w[ill] give Tennessee one of
>the highest sales taxes in the country."
>
>And it is regressive as hell for low-income families and individuals.

Yes but at least now, the football coaches will be able to resume
recruiting trips.  Good to see that UT's priorities haven't changed...

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 08:37:57 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21458
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 08:37:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F1EF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:54:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12716827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 14:54:22 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f288.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.163]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64IsLZ22808 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:54:21 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          4 Jul 2002 11:54:16 -0700
Received: from 209.244.177.51 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu,
          04 Jul 2002 18:54:15 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [209.244.177.51]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2002 18:54:16.0322 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[32211E20:01C2238C]
Message-ID:  <F2888m4wDAumzKnogdx00003fa6@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:54:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
>most whorish we've got is the Jr. Baby Doll T-Shirt

Sold!

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 08:39:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21462
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 08:39:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E66498@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:50:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12716875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 14:55:58 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f254.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.129]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64ItwZ22969 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:55:58 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          4 Jul 2002 11:55:53 -0700
Received: from 209.244.177.51 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu,
          04 Jul 2002 18:55:52 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [209.244.177.51]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2002 18:55:53.0005 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[6BC1C5D0:01C2238C]
Message-ID:  <F254D0lYtIsM6B4jky300007039@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:55:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: ask you
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Discombobulated.

Marie


>From: Terry Wild <twild@URI.EDU>
>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: ask you
>Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:03:39 -0400
>
>Out-of-whack
>
>Terry
>
>>On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:
>>
>>>  A friend of mine is collecting interesting words meaning "askew"
>>>(caddywampus is one).  Anyone have any interesting ones?




Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 08:48:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21479
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 08:48:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F1F87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:05:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12717141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 15:05:23 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f199.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.199]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64J5NZ23899 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:05:23 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          4 Jul 2002 12:05:18 -0700
Received: from 209.244.177.51 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu,
          04 Jul 2002 19:05:17 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [209.244.177.51]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2002 19:05:18.0129 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[BC98DA10:01C2238D]
Message-ID:  <F199kvcUrm7Y2NLR1nQ00006f39@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:05:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
>Ever since this topic first arose on Words-L, I've been asking
>linguistics classes whether they knew.  So far it's been 100% no -- and
>questions about why.  But I'm surprised that those west-coasters didn't
>know since I've concluded that it's a west coast thing.

Not.

What do you all think is the feeling about "Hispanic"? I've heard it
referred to as 'the H word' on several occasions by young Latina women.
Enough so that I don't use it, and almost feel apologetic about the MeSH
heading in MEDLINE (this situation arises often for me).

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 08:56:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21486
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 08:56:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E66517@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:07:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12717315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 15:13:16 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64JDAZ24525 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:13:10 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020704191304.JLVJ29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:13:04 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020704115756.0252b450@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:09:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24941A.3960BCC3@valstar.net>

He's a Ballchinian, of course.  :)

Thanks, Alyce!  Here are two more reviews that mention the alien, one
Christian, one not.  I can't believe they ruined such an otherwise pristine
movie with simulated scrotal nudity!

http://www.movieguide.org/index.cgi?Playing&07/03/200212.49.24
then scroll down past the list of other movies, or use this longer URL:
http://www.movieguide.org/index.cgi?Playing&07/03/200212.49.24#07/03/200212.49.24

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/movies/76981_men03q.shtml

And pictures of some of the other aliens from the film:

http://meninblack2.station.sony.com/alienarchive.jsp

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 08:58:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21493
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 08:58:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6651C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:09:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12717340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 15:15:16 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64JFGZ24669 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:15:16 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO00005F;
          4 Jul 02 15:14:58 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 4 Jul 02
          15:14:48 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG00005E; 4 Jul 02 15:14:41 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D246661.8818.8C0A9600@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:14:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D248E56.7787E885@akad.ee>

On Thursday, July 04, 2002 at 21:05, Kristin Sarv wrote:

> 28th: Stirling, whisky factory(an another word should be used, I
> guess, which I cannot rememember at the moment)

Distillery.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:03:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21506
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:03:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E66546@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:14:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12717478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 15:19:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64JJvZ25093 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:19:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9A7407D8D; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 12:19:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704191956.9A7407D8D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:19:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F199kvcUrm7Y2NLR1nQ00006f39@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 4, 2002  3: 5:17 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> What do you all think is the feeling about "Hispanic"? I've heard it
> referred to as 'the H word' on several occasions by young Latina women.
> Enough so that I don't use it, and almost feel apologetic about the MeSH
> heading in MEDLINE (this situation arises often for me).

We've discussed this before:  Latino is the word of choice. It has to
do with Che Guevara.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:05:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21513
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:05:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F208E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:21:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12717579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 15:21:38 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64JLbZ25318 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:21:37 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust222.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.224]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005005631@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 15:21:37 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020704115756.0252b450@mail.istori.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D249F5C.32796EFC@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:17:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Kaminski wrote:
>
> then scroll down past the list of other movies, or use this longer URL:
>
I love that there is one "God Bless You" noted.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:08:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21517
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:08:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E66570@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:19:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12717664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 15:24:45 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f38.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64JOjZ25606 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:24:45 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          4 Jul 2002 12:24:40 -0700
Received: from 209.244.177.51 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu,
          04 Jul 2002 19:24:39 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [209.244.177.51]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2002 19:24:40.0031 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[712506F0:01C22390]
Message-ID:  <F38Osnnx1tso7IXA0EE00007007@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:24:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>We've discussed this before:  Latino is the word of choice. It has to
>do with Che Guevara.

Familiar. Oh, my poor mushy brain...

Karen, Happy Batfest!

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:18:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21536
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:18:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000F2157@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:34:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12717906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 15:34:56 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64JYuZ26440 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:34:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BFD5D7F06; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 12:34:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704193455.BFD5D7F06@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:34:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F38Osnnx1tso7IXA0EE00007007@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 4, 2002  3:24:39 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> >We've discussed this before:  Latino is the word of choice. It has to
> >do with Che Guevara.
>
> Familiar. Oh, my poor mushy brain...

Well, I learned about the Che Guevara connection from a murder
mystery, but it's true. It has to do with breaking free from the
chains of Spanish colonialism.

> Karen, Happy Batfest!

Thank you! So far I've gotten phone calls from Tony and Clyde. Tony
really confused me by not identifying himself, but the Canadian vowels
gave him away.:)

Anyone else who wants to join in the fun, my number is 512-977-8817.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:26:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21548
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:26:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E665FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:37:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12718122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 15:42:59 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64JgxZ27155 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:42:59 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64JguQ28831
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:42:56 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041352110.4432-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24A53C.38E4F378@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:42:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >> and walked a mile to the hospital instead of asking for help.
> >
> >I need to measure the distance from my house to the hospital.  I bet
> >it's about a mile.  And yes, I'd walk it.
>
> Bleeding to death? I should have known.

I don't remember all of the original, but the past tense in the part
quoted above (at the > >> level) suggests to me that this person made it
there without bleeding to death.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:28:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21583
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:28:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6669C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:39:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12718164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 15:45:12 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g64JjBZ27346 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:45:11 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA18610
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Thu, 4 Jul 2002
          12:45:10 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4806B97004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,  4 Jul 2002 12:45:10 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 18606 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2002 19:45:09 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 4 Jul 2002 19:45:09 -0000
References: <3D234151.ECC651B1@uclink.berkeley.edu>; from
            bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU on Wed, Jul 03,
            2002 at 11:24:17AM -0700 <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020703195818.B2227@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D234151.ECC651B1@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Moment-Of-Dada: But will they have fireworks fish swimming under a fireworks
                  waterfall?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130300b94a11ce3236@[66.237.73.72]>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:45:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020704110830.A3712@yoccoz.multinix.com>

>= Why didn't you want to suggest it? Do you think it is whorish enough for
>= Marie?
>=
>= Betty
>
>I am apparently not in a risk taking mode, and not willing to
>have ideas shot down in public.
>
>steph

Fools rush in, etc.  Truth to tell, when Betty posted the link to the first
design, I didn't realize that there was a serious t-shirt proposal in the
offing.  My thinking was along the lines of "Since we're not going to have
a *real* t-shirt, why not...?"

If the quality turns out to be crappy y'all can blame me.

Ken Miller
Festal Correspondent
The Lostin Times

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:31:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21602
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:30:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F220E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:47:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12718232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 15:47:10 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64JlAZ27533 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:47:10 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64Jl8Q29576
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:47:09 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F254D0lYtIsM6B4jky300007039@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24A639.D25E2EF9@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:47:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: ask you
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> Discombobulated.

I don't think of that as meaning askew.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:32:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21606
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:32:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E667B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:43:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12718271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 15:49:01 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64Jn1Z27662 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:49:01 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64JmwQ29846
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:48:58 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020704193455.BFD5D7F06@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24A6A7.9DD968E3@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:48:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Anyone else who wants to join in the fun, my number is 512-977-8817.

I'm scared to.  I remember how you reacted when we called you from
GoatRoast.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:34:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21610
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:34:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6680B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:45:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12718067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 15:50:34 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64JeYZ26946 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:40:34 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1105F6EAD for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,  4 Jul 2002 14:40:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g64JeXa43381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:40:33
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <F199kvcUrm7Y2NLR1nQ00006f39@hotmail.com>
            <20020704191956.9A7407D8D@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020704144033.A43038@pobox.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:40:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020704191956.9A7407D8D@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 12:19:56PM -0700

For whatever it's worth, I always say "Latino". It's hardly an awkward
word. As for Oriental--it's a pretty ridiculous word, but in America
there really isn't much associated with it. This came as a surprise
to me. I wouldn't call it offensive here and now. Anyway, anyone who
says "oriental" sounds like someone who still calls female students
"coeds"--what a dork...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:37:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21614
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:37:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E668DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:48:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12718492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 15:53:43 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64JrhZ28117 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:53:43 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020704195337.YAYJ903.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:53:37 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020704121020.024a6740@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:49:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24941A.3960BCC3@valstar.net>

Speaking of movies, we saw Lilo & Stitch this week.  I was expecting an
overdone Disney thing, particularly after seeing the "there's one in every
family" ads where Disney attached the little blue monster to most of the
other animated characters in the canon -- which made it look like the
little guy needed help from everyone else's reputation.

I was pleasantly surprised, though.  It's charming and
sweet-but-not-syrupy, the characters feel like real people, and there's
lots of funny little details to notice.  I really liked it.

Now I think back on those ads and wonder if Stitch is pulling the creds of
the other Disney characters up, instead of the other way around.

On Father's Day, we all went to see Star Wars Episode II in DLP digital
projection.  DLP totally rocks.  The image frame stayed perfectly still
through the whole movie, even on long scenic shots, where distant detail
stayed perfectly still, instead of bouncing around a little.  Those sorts
of shots were the only place I noticed pixelation in the fine detail, but
it wasn't distracting.  And the digital sound was crystal clear -- so much
so that when they used a tiny bit of silence right before an explosion
effect to make the explosion sound bigger, I thought there should be a
little *more* hiss or something.

And I thought the movie itself was transcendent.  There was *so* much
action, and *so* much detail, and *so* many amazingly cool and wonderful
scenes, that I got fatigued from it all, and wished it could have been
split into two movies.

Not that the movie is perfect -- the dialogue, for instance, is really
uninspired and simplistic.  But on the whole, the movie seemed
groundbreaking in the amount of fantasy, story, production and detail in a
way that won't be acknowledged or realized by others for years -- similar
to the original Star Wars and the way it opened new vistas for filmmakers.

So, I think the way Lucas has developed digital animation has let him
transcend traditional moviemaking.  It's still up to the moviemakers,
though, to use this power for evil or good, though.

See what Roger Ebert says about Star Wars Episode II on film
<http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/2002/05/051001.html> and Star
Wars Episode II projected digitally
<http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/2002/05/digitalstarwars.html>.
I wouldn't much disagree with what he says, except that I've got more faith
in digital technology than he does.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:39:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21621
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:39:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6696A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:50:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12718527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 15:56:14 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64JuDZ28301 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:56:13 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g64Jxrq04902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:59:53
          +0200
References: <20020704165611.4E7017EE2@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2481D7.7C5E866E@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020704215953.A4895@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:59:53 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2481D7.7C5E866E@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Thu,
              Jul 04, 2002 at 12:11:51PM -0500

= not.  It was that I thought pretty much all universities did have an NPR
= station identified with them.
=
=  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

This is like acupuncture in any city at midnight, right?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:41:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21628
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:41:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E669AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:51:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12718592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 15:57:15 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g64JvFZ28497 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:57:15 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA20063
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Thu, 4 Jul 2002
          12:57:14 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C029997004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,  4 Jul 2002 12:57:13 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 20059 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2002 19:57:13 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 4 Jul 2002 19:57:13 -0000
References: <001501c2229c$dcd19340$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Moment-Of-Dada: But will they have fireworks fish swimming under a fireworks
                  waterfall?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130300b9495a8bf42b@[66.237.73.72]>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:57:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: naming
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEFBFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

>So the son is: Tadhg (pronounced T'-eye-g) See Nolan and the daughter is
>Emer (pronounced ee'-mer) Luk-jyu (Look You) Nolan.
>
>I'm feeling for the kids.
>
>OTOH, my MOFW's last name is Mush. So, how serious can I let this get ?  ;)
>
>Sandra

Over on The Register, there's an interesting article on people who cannot
register for Microsoft's Passport using their own last names, among them
folks named Cumming, Woodcock, Bearcock, and Stitson:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/35/25867.html

Ken Miller
Department of Cyberdecency

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:41:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21632
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:41:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F22AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:57:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12718596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 15:57:30 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64JvUZ28511 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:57:30 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64JvTFA008786 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:57:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020704073553.00a3cbf0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020704125705.00a877d0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:57:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020704170206.6263B7EEF@yellow.rahul.net>

At 10:02 AM 7/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > At 04:36 PM 7/4/2002 +0200, you wrote:
> > >= Don't tell anyone and do it behind their backs.  Present finished
> product
> > >= and give credit to someone else.  :-)
> > >=
> > >= Betty
> > >
> > >I see that this method has it's advantages.
> > .
> > Karen said that she liked it , too, so it had to be made!
>
>Oh, yeah, like you all do what I say. Here I sit, all alone with
>nothing to do...
.
Are you going to go to a ball game?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:43:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21636
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:43:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E66A55@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:54:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12718331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 16:00:19 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64JoJZ27789 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:50:19 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64JoIOI024350 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:50:18 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041549340.8295-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:50:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24A53C.38E4F378@maynor.net>

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> >> and walked a mile to the hospital instead of asking for help.
>> >
>> >I need to measure the distance from my house to the hospital.  I bet
>> >it's about a mile.  And yes, I'd walk it.
>>
>> Bleeding to death? I should have known.
>
>I don't remember all of the original, but the past tense in the part
>quoted above (at the > >> level) suggests to me that this person made it
>there without bleeding to death.

Yes. She lucked out. But she had no way to know that she would.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:46:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21653
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:46:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F22F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:02:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12718427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 16:02:34 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64JqYZ27972 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:52:34 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64JqXOI024768 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:52:34 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041551440.8295-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:52:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      LAX shutdown
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I just tuned into CNN and learned that an int'l terminal at LAX has been
shut down because of a shooting.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:48:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21657
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:47:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E66B57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:59:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12718770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 16:04:23 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64K4MZ29104 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:04:22 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64K4LFA016321 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:04:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020704110830.A3712@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D234151.ECC651B1@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020703195818.B2227@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D234151.ECC651B1@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020704130351.00a37ce0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:04:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130300b94a11ce3236@[66.237.73.72]>

At 12:45 PM 7/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >= Why didn't you want to suggest it? Do you think it is whorish enough for
> >= Marie?
> >=
> >= Betty
> >
> >I am apparently not in a risk taking mode, and not willing to
> >have ideas shot down in public.
> >
> >steph
>
>Fools rush in, etc.  Truth to tell, when Betty posted the link to the first
>design, I didn't realize that there was a serious t-shirt proposal in the
>offing.  My thinking was along the lines of "Since we're not going to have
>a *real* t-shirt, why not...?"
>
>If the quality turns out to be crappy y'all can blame me.

Pete can share in the blame.

BB

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:48:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21661
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:48:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E66B78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:59:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12718795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 16:05:07 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g64K56Z29163 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:05:06 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA20941
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Thu, 4 Jul 2002
          13:05:04 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 37D6897004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,  4 Jul 2002 13:05:00 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 20869 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2002 20:04:59 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 4 Jul 2002 20:04:59 -0000
References: <20020703185200.A2227@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Moment-Of-Dada: But will they have fireworks fish swimming under a fireworks
                  waterfall?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130301b9495b0a121b@[66.237.73.72]>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:04:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000401c222b8$081d9b00$48305b80@EAGLE72>

>> = Sorry everybody I'm posting drunk again.
>> =
>> = Ann

>That is an Alan Wild thing to do, post to Words-l drunk.
>I wish I was not at work.
>
>
>alec

Beg pardon, but 'Lan is hardly the only wordsler to PWI.  I'd imagine that,
of those of us who indulge at all, most of us have a PWI or two to our
credit.

It being after 1:00 PM on a holiday afternoon, I may not be entirely sober
myself at the moment.

Ken Miller
Department of Zymologically-Enhanced Communication

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:57:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21672
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 09:57:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F2398@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:13:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12718971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 16:13:28 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64KDQZ29777 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:13:27 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g64KH7804956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:17:07
          +0200
References: <20020702191643.18B1D86A9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D21FD46.800A9B96@akad.ee> <3D248E56.7787E885@akad.ee>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020704221706.B4895@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:17:06 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D248E56.7787E885@akad.ee>; from Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE on Thu,
              Jul 04, 2002 at 09:05:10PM +0300

On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 09:05:10PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote:
= Kristin Sarv wrote:
=
= >  I'll send the itinerary on another day,
=
= So: July 23rd: Tartu-Tallinn-Rostock (by bus and ship)
=
= 24th: to Belgium
=
= 25th: Amsterdam; to London
=

You are travelling by bus, right?  I suppose the order above is
possible, but it's very roundabout.

= 26th: York. Night in Teesside
=
= 27th: towards Scotland: Jedburg, Edinburgh, night there
=
= 28th: Stirling, whisky factory(an another word should be used, I guess,
= which I cannot rememember at the moment)
=
Distillery.

= 29th: Loch Ness, Drumnadrochit,  Fort William, Fort Augustus
=
= 30th: Gretna Green, Chester
=
= 31st: Windsor, London
=
= Aug 1st: more in London
=
= 2nd-3rd: Going back home
=
= Kristin

If you are doing this on the road, either you are travelling at
night or you are going to be spending most of your time on the
road!

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:00:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21688
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 10:00:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E66D25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:11:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12719047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 16:17:13 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64KHCZ30093 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:17:12 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g64KKpr04972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:20:51
          +0200
References: <F38Osnnx1tso7IXA0EE00007007@hotmail.com>
            <20020704193455.BFD5D7F06@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020704222051.C4895@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:20:51 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020704193455.BFD5D7F06@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 12:34:55PM -0700

=
= Anyone else who wants to join in the fun, my number is 512-977-8817.
=
= Karen

Ha!  It's busy!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:15:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21705
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 10:15:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E66F06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:26:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12719341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 16:32:19 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64KWJZ31246 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:32:19 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64KWIFA008184 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:32:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020704133140.00aa66a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:32:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Calling Austin
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

BatFest come in.

Line still busy.

BB

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:22:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21715
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 10:22:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E67027@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:33:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12719477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 16:38:58 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64KcvZ31671 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:38:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BB2867F9B; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704203856.BB2867F9B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:38:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Calling Austin
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020704133140.00aa66a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 4, 2002  1:32:10 pm"

Betty said:
> BatFest come in.
>
> Line still busy.

I just got off the phone with Boo!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:26:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21722
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 10:26:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E670CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:37:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12719586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 16:42:33 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g64KgXZ32038 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002
          16:42:33 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JGY32631; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:42:28 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JPF01615; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:42:26 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <v03130300b94a11ce3236@[66.237.73.72]>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D2426B0.27407.34A202C@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:42:56 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020704130351.00a37ce0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On 4 Jul 2002 at 13:04, Betty wrote:

> Pete can share in the blame.

It the results turn out poorly, all four of can share the blame. That would call
for a lusers party, I guess--which would, of course, require creation of a
commemorative T-shirt.


     mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:39:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21748
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 10:39:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6721B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:50:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12719909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 16:55:45 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64KtjZ00520 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:55:45 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64KtgFA031665 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:55:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020704133140.00aa66a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020704135523.00a45b20@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:55:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Calling Austin
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020704203856.BB2867F9B@yellow.rahul.net>

At 01:38 PM 7/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > BatFest come in.
> >
> > Line still busy.
>
>I just got off the phone with Boo!

And it's busy again!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:40:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21755
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 10:40:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000F265C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:57:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12719957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 16:57:04 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64Kv3Z00691 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:57:03 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64Kv1FA005452 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:57:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020704130351.00a37ce0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <v03130300b94a11ce3236@[66.237.73.72]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020704135627.00a4ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:56:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2426B0.27407.34A202C@localhost>

At 10:42 AM 7/4/2002 -1000, you wrote:
>On 4 Jul 2002 at 13:04, Betty wrote:
>
> > Pete can share in the blame.
>
>It the results turn out poorly, all four of can share the blame. That
>would call
>for a lusers party, I guess--which would, of course, require creation of a
>commemorative T-shirt.

Hey, what did I do?  :-)

BB

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:48:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21772
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 10:48:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E674A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:59:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12721268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:05:12 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g64L5CZ01854 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002
          17:05:12 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JGY33059; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:05:07 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JPF02855; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:05:06 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D2426B0.27407.34A202C@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D242C04.13343.35EEEA9@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 11:05:40 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020704135627.00a4ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On 4 Jul 2002 at 13:56, Betty wrote:

> Hey, what did I do?  :-)

Maybe yours is the biggest blame of all: You started it.


     mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:50:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21779
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 10:50:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E67508@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:01:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12721374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:06:48 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64L6mZ01977 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:06:48 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C46E57FB0; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 14:06:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704210647.C46E57FB0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:06:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Calling Austin
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020704135523.00a45b20@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 4, 2002  1:55:34 pm"

Betty said:
> At 01:38 PM 7/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Betty said:
> > > BatFest come in.
> > >
> > > Line still busy.
> >
> >I just got off the phone with Boo!
>
> And it's busy again!

I thought it was you, but it was Adam. I couldn't figure out why your
voice was so much lower than I remembered.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:50:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21783
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 10:50:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E67524@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:01:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12721388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:07:15 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64L7FZ02051 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:07:15 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64L7CFA021011 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:07:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020704135627.00a4ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D2426B0.27407.34A202C@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020704140609.00a3fe70@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:07:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D242C04.13343.35EEEA9@localhost>

At 11:05 AM 7/4/2002 -1000, you wrote:
>On 4 Jul 2002 at 13:56, Betty wrote:
>
> > Hey, what did I do?  :-)
>
>Maybe yours is the biggest blame of all: You started it.

And I'm going to have the coaster to always remember it.  I loved the
design. I ordered shirts, too.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:52:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21787
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 10:52:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F27AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:08:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12721425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:08:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64L8YZ02150 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:08:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 444F87FA6; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 14:08:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704210833.444F87FA6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:08:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020704125705.00a877d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 4, 2002 12:57:22 pm"

Betty said:
> At 10:02 AM 7/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Betty said:
> > > At 04:36 PM 7/4/2002 +0200, you wrote:
> > > >= Don't tell anyone and do it behind their backs.  Present finished
> > product
> > > >= and give credit to someone else.  :-)
> > > >=
> > > >= Betty
> > > >
> > > >I see that this method has it's advantages.
> > > .
> > > Karen said that she liked it , too, so it had to be made!
> >
> >Oh, yeah, like you all do what I say. Here I sit, all alone with
> >nothing to do...
> .
> Are you going to go to a ball game?

Nope.:(

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:53:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21791
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 10:53:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6768F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:04:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12721439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:10:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64LA1Z02250 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:10:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 62DAB7FBB; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 14:10:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704211000.62DAB7FBB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:10:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020704222051.C4895@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul 4,
              2002 10:20:51 pm"

steph said:
> =
> = Anyone else who wants to join in the fun, my number is 512-977-8817.
> =
> = Karen
>
> Ha!  It's busy!

Well, it's not busy at this very moment. Damn! I'd love to talk to you.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:54:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21795
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 10:54:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E676D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:05:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12721446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:10:23 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64LAMZ02267 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:10:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0D69B7FA2; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 14:10:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704211021.0D69B7FA2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:10:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2426B0.27407.34A202C@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 4, 2002 10:42:56 am"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 4 Jul 2002 at 13:04, Betty wrote:
>
> > Pete can share in the blame.
>
> It the results turn out poorly, all four of can share the blame. That would call
> for a lusers party, I guess--which would, of course, require creation of a
> commemorative T-shirt.

You could have it here.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:54:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21799
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 10:54:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F27CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:10:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12720505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:10:41 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64L0eZ01194 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:00:40 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64L0eOI003501 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:00:40 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041700180.8481-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:00:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24A6A7.9DD968E3@maynor.net>

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I'm scared to.  I remember how you reacted when we called you from
>GoatRoast.

My call from Knoxville worked.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:59:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21803
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 10:59:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E67AB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:10:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12721549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:15:55 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64LFsZ02695 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:15:54 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64LFoFA031988 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:15:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020704222051.C4895@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020704141531.00a3fe70@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:15:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020704211000.62DAB7FBB@yellow.rahul.net>

At 02:10 PM 7/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>steph said:
> > =
> > = Anyone else who wants to join in the fun, my number is 512-977-8817.
> > =
> > = Karen
> >
> > Ha!  It's busy!
>
>Well, it's not busy at this very moment. Damn! I'd love to talk to you.
>
>Karen

It's ringing!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:07:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21815
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:07:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E67D81@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:18:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12721855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:24:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64LO4Z03478 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:24:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 338FA7FB4; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 14:24:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704212404.338FA7FB4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:24:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020704141531.00a3fe70@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 4, 2002  2:15:42 pm"

Betty said:
> At 02:10 PM 7/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >steph said:
> > > =
> > > = Anyone else who wants to join in the fun, my number is 512-977-8817.
> > > =
> > > = Karen
> > >
> > > Ha!  It's busy!
> >
> >Well, it's not busy at this very moment. Damn! I'd love to talk to you.
> >
> >Karen
>
> It's ringing!

But we had a bad connection and Betty had to hang up. Isn't that the way?!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:13:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21825
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:13:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E67E9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:24:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12721933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:29:27 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64LTRZ03855 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:29:27 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYQ004YIUD2MI@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 04 Jul 2002 16:29:27 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020702180651.CEA5E7DF1@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D24BDE0.9000708@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:28:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Rita Chapman said:
>>>
>>>
>>>>       My husband, Jack Sprat, can't stand butter, chicken skin, or
>>>>the fat on meat.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Do you eat salmon skin?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>        No.  I don't eat salmon.
>>
>
> Why?
>


        I don't like it.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:13:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21832
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:13:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E67EE4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:24:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12721978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:30:20 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64LUKZ03995 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:30:20 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYQ004OOUEKND@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 04 Jul 2002 16:30:20 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020702181722.2FD958678@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D24BE15.8040604@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:28:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Tony Harminc said:
>
>>Though the proportion of saturated fat in things like lard and beef
>>fat is much overestimated by many people. Lard is mostly unsaturated,
>>and beef fat is close to half unsaturated. Butter is something like
>>65% saturated, and then there are the tropical oils in a whole
>>category of their own that no animal fat even approaches.
>>
>
> I buy 'light' coconut milk for that reason. Sigh.


        I tried the light stuff once, and it didn't taste like
anything.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:15:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21841
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:15:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E67F48@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:26:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12722024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:32:12 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64LWCZ04155 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:32:12 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYQ004Y3UHON6@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 04 Jul 2002 16:32:12 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020703004532.A6AD37DDA@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D24BE85.7060701@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:30:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: food discovery
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>I like Greek-style chicken livers.  If they weren't such
>>little cholesterol bombs, I'd make them for myself more often.
>>
>
> What are Greek-style chicken livers? With yogurt?
>


        LOL.  No. Deep fried.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:16:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21850
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:16:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F2929@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:33:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12722038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:33:17 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64LXHZ04217 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:33:17 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64LQBb10415 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:26:11 -0400
Received: from knowleshollow ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu
          (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id g64LVBk00435 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:31:12 -0400
References:  <20020704171043.764767F2D@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <008f01c223a2$1ece5cf0$0100a8c0@knowleshollow>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:31:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Alan Wild <awild@URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: History of the vibrator...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Thanks Karen!

How's your shooting going?  Last I heard, you were considering a few
different pistols, but that was many Moons ago.

'Alan



----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Kay" <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
To: <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: 04 July, 2002 13:10
Subject: Re: History of the vibrator...


> Alan Wild said:
> > Is this a spoof, or what?
> >
> > http://www.bettydodson.com/org-tech.htm
> >
> > Verdie?
>
> No. Betty Dodson is a famous masturbation teacher and enthusiast.
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:22:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21857
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:22:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E680A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:33:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12722229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:38:34 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64LcXZ04815 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:38:33 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYQ005R3US90Z@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 04 Jul 2002 16:38:33 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207032050050.27569-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D23A33D.15862516@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D24C002.1010709@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:37:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
>
>>>>OUr NPR station, WUOT, says that under whatever proposal is apparently
>>>>
> ...
>
>>WUOT    -       it
>>
>
> I thought all NPR stations took on the call letters of their closest
> tower, which means all universities, afaik.  I don't think of our
> <local> NPR as exactly "our station" since the people talking on it are
> in Jackson, even though it's identified at those identification
> intervals as being at MSU



        KMU is on the first floor of Lucas Hall, right underneath the
English Department.  I wandered by with Ana one time when I
had her with me on campus and she got to peak into the
studio.  She was astounded.


>
>>Since state funding does not <work> (unless you call not having a state
>>univ. <working>) what would you suggest?
>>
>
> I'm not convinced that state funding doesn't work.



I've gone to 100% state funded schools.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:31:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21872
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:31:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E682DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:42:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12722430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:47:36 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64LlaZ05787 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:47:36 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYQ004COV7BLW@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 04 Jul 2002 16:47:35 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020704171324.96A507F1D@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D24832D.3B1E7E4D@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D24C221.7030803@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:46:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Karen Kay wrote:
>
>
>>>My point that Tom was responding to was certainly not meant to suggest
>>>that all NPR stations are connected with universities.  Clearly they're
>>>not.  It was that I thought pretty much all universities did have an NPR
>>>station identified with them.
>>>
>>I think both generalizations are untrue.
>>
>
> Both?  I see only one -- that most universities have an NPR station (or
> tower or substation or whatever) identified with them.


Oh, I'm not sure that's true.  ULowell certainly did not.  I
  think of it as a smaller market thing, where the market
can't support an independent NPR station.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:37:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21876
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:37:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F29BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:53:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12722554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:53:22 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64LrMZ06376 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:53:22 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws110-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.110]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64LrHQ17892
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:53:17 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F199kvcUrm7Y2NLR1nQ00006f39@hotmail.com>
            <20020704191956.9A7407D8D@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020704144033.A43038@pobox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24C3B7.F5457C16@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:52:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:

> says "oriental" sounds like someone who still calls female students
> "coeds"--what a dork...

I still say "dorm" instead of "residence hall."  Is that dorky?

And this reminds me that I'm once again worrying about what will become
of my books when I die.  In loading up the trunk of my car with books to
take to the public library tomorrow -- I certainly hope it's not taking
a holiday tomorrow since my poor car will probably barely move -- the
trunk looks like Alyce's warehouse, I started going through other books
and looking at lots of those tiny books of literary classics that were
used in schools, both hs and college, back in the old days.  I have tons
of them with names of my mother, my father, and my aunt.  Plus some
little doodlings in some and little notes like my mother's reminder to
herself that she had rehearsal on Apr. 21.  I'm tempted to give them all
to the library (for the Friends of the Library book sales) right now
just to keep them from being thrown away.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:37:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21883
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:37:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E68546@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:48:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12722573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:54:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64Ls2Z06445 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:54:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 66ED67E0C; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 14:54:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704215401.66ED67E0C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:54:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24BDE0.9000708@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 4,
              2002  4:28: 0 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> >>        No.  I don't eat salmon.
> >>
> >
> > Why?
> >
>
>
>         I don't like it.

What kind of fish do you like?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:41:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21887
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:41:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E68705@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:52:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12722668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:58:06 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64Lw6Z06833 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:58:06 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws110-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.110]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64Lw4Q18672
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:58:04 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020704121020.024a6740@mail.istori.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24C4E8.4BF11FBD@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:58:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Kaminski wrote:

> sweet-but-not-syrupy, the characters feel like real people, and there's
> lots of funny little details to notice.  I really liked it.

I trust that y'all know me well enough to know that this is not a
<correction> or a suggestion that Pete <shouldn't> have written
"there's" or any such thing.  I'm just interested in language change and
have been noticing "there's" more and more lately.  I realize that
"there's" for "there are" has been <committed> for eons, but I used to
think of it as sort of like "he don't."  Lately (the past year maybe)
I've been noticing that it's popping up everywhere, like in the e-mail
of somebody like Pete.  Have y'all noticed that?  Is "there are" dying?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:42:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21894
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:42:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000F29F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:59:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12722697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 17:59:15 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64LxEZ06917 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:59:14 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws110-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.110]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64LxBQ18810
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:59:12 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041549340.8295-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24C52C.38B4D1EB@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:59:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> Yes. She lucked out. But she had no way to know that she would.

You win some, you lose some.  That's how life works.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:45:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21903
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:45:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F2A1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:01:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12722965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:01:32 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64M1WZ07272 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:01:32 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYQ005P6VUB5N@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 04 Jul 2002 17:01:24 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020704215401.66ED67E0C@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D24C55D.7020008@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:59:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>>>       No.  I don't eat salmon.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Why?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>        I don't like it.
>>
>
> What kind of fish do you like?
>


        Cod, haddock, trout, bass, shark.

        Oh, we found a better sandbar today, btw.   Less drinking,
smoking, and surreptitious fucking going on.  More kids,
dogs, and people who wear sunscreen.

        I need to drop 20 lbs. and get an orange bikini.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:46:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21912
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:46:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E689CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:57:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12723004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:03:05 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64M35Z07415 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:03:05 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws110-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.110]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64M31Q19351
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:03:01 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020704165611.4E7017EE2@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2481D7.7C5E866E@maynor.net>
            <20020704215953.A4895@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24C612.E7C05961@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:02:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:
>
> = not.  It was that I thought pretty much all universities did have an NPR
> = station identified with them.
> =
> =  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
> This is like acupuncture in any city at midnight, right?

No, I don't think so.  Maybe it's just the way PRM did its think back
when public radio got started, but I thought part of the philosophy of
public radio was to try to saturate the country and that towers were
spread around the states to try to cover all spaces, with towers going
up in (or near) cities and universities.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:52:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21916
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:52:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E68C8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:03:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12723091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:08:30 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64M8TZ07830 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:08:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws110-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.110]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64M8RQ20096
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:08:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020703185200.A2227@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <v03130301b9495b0a121b@[66.237.73.72]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24C758.D2EE1E2B@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:08:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Woot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bookrat wrote:

> It being after 1:00 PM on a holiday afternoon, I may not be entirely sober
> myself at the moment.

Excellent.  We are looking forward to hearing from you.  I've been
thinking of Wordslers all day, remembering fests past.  I even thought
about going tonight to Starkville's fireworks in memory of Norman and
the fire marshall.  But I don't think I will.  Wordstock must have been
on July 3.  I remember spending the night of the 4th in Lexington,
swimming in an unusually good motel swimming pool and watching July 4
celebrations on tv later.  That was on my way home from Wordstock.  Why
did I not see Bradykins that night?  I spent lots of time with him on
the way up but didn't see him on the way back.  He didn't know I was
coming back that way, of course, since I didn't know either.  (That was
the morning of the breakfast when I drove away not sure where I was
going.)  I have a vague memory of trying to call him that night when I
ended up back in Lexington and not getting him.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:53:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21923
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:53:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E68D1C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:04:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12723107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:10:06 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64MA6Z07959 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:10:06 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws110-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.110]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64MA3Q20342
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:10:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020704133140.00aa66a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020704135523.00a45b20@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24C7B8.39BC0FA9@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:10:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Calling Austin
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> And it's busy again!

Has anybody called Bradykins today?  I call him only when traveling.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:56:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21927
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:56:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E68E1B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:07:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12723113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:12:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64MCYZ08090 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:12:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7F86C7F6C; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 15:12:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704221233.7F86C7F6C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:12:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: food discovery
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24BE85.7060701@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 4,
              2002  4:30:45 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > What are Greek-style chicken livers? With yogurt?
>
>         LOL.  No. Deep fried.

Well, I've actually had chicken livers with yogurt and they are very
good. Deep-fried sounds good, too.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:56:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21934
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:56:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E68E69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:07:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12723118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:12:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64MCxZ08127 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:12:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AE4EC7F41; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 15:12:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704221258.AE4EC7F41@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:12:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: History of the vibrator...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <008f01c223a2$1ece5cf0$0100a8c0@knowleshollow> from Alan Wild at
              "Jul 4, 2002  5:31:11 pm"

Alan Wild said:
> Thanks Karen!
>
> How's your shooting going?  Last I heard, you were considering a few
> different pistols, but that was many Moons ago.

No money for guns, alas.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:57:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21938
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:57:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E68E89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:08:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12723022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:13:30 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64M3UZ07439 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:03:30 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64M3TOI013152 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:03:30 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041801560.6268-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:03:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24C002.1010709@swbell.net>

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:

>I've gone to 100% state funded schools.

I did not know there were any left. I have never been associated with one
- every one I have studied at or worked for received a substantial amount
of funding from federal agencies and privte donors.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 11:57:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21942
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 11:57:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F2A70@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:13:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12723129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:13:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64MDqZ08203 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:13:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3E5D67F66; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 15:13:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704221352.3E5D67F66@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:13:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24C221.7030803@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 4,
              2002  4:46: 9 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Oh, I'm not sure that's true.  ULowell certainly did not.  I
>   think of it as a smaller market thing, where the market
> can't support an independent NPR station.

I think that's entirely true.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 12:08:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21955
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 12:08:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F2ABA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:24:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12723144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:24:21 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64MELZ08254 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:14:21 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64MEKOI014652 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:14:20 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041804110.6268-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:14:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24C52C.38B4D1EB@maynor.net>

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> Yes. She lucked out. But she had no way to know that she would.
>
>You win some, you lose some.  That's how life works.

NO - "you win some, you lose some. That's how life and death work."

It seems to be quite unnecessarily selfish for anyone to decide to walk
a mile to a hospital when she is bleeding and cannot know how serious the
bleeding is - if there is any alternative. The woman had friends. She also
obviously thought that she needed hospital attention! Delaying treatment
for a serious condition can cost large amounts of money. Though one or
one's insurer might pay part of it, the cost eventually goes through to
the taxpayers.

I know that there are problems with ERs, ambulances, etc. Before my ortho
appt. yesterday, I seriously considered going to a ER. I know how much it
costs taxpayers for one to either take an ambulance or go to a non-profit
hospital ER, so I chose not to - since clearly my problem was not
immediately life-threatening.

I have in recent years deliberately cultivated a good business
relationship with the taxi service nearest to me. I tried them a few times
- they are very dependable, and for early morning pickups, they always
call ahead - it's kind of a wake-up call service. If I should need
transportation to a hospital in the middle of the night, I would call them
unless I had reason to believe that I needed immediate medical care in the
ambulance as I was transported to the hospital.

I have a friend who was on TennCare for a long time. She really made me
angry when she would develop a medical problem, then deliberately wait to do
something about it until the middle of the night, at which point she would
call an ambulance and go to an emergency room. She should have gone to a
dr or clinic during business hours. She cost TN taxpayers a bundle. One of
her problems was that she felt <entitled>.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 12:09:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21984
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 12:08:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F2ABF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:25:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12723297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:25:13 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64MPDZ09196 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:25:13 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws132-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.132]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64MP7Q22696
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:25:08 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020703004532.A6AD37DDA@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D24BE85.7060701@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24CB0D.B2FE1536@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:24:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: food discovery
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> > What are Greek-style chicken livers? With yogurt?
>
>         LOL.  No. Deep fried.

Not because I want deep-fried chicken livers, but suddenly I wish I were
at that Greek restaurant in Memphis where Bethany and I and others ate a
few months ago.  Great food.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 12:14:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22029
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 12:14:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E692CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:25:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12723453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:30:32 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64MUWZ09775 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:30:32 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws132-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.132]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64MUTQ23651
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:30:29 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020704171324.96A507F1D@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D24832D.3B1E7E4D@maynor.net> <3D24C221.7030803@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24CC81.F9914A2B@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:30:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> Oh, I'm not sure that's true.  ULowell certainly did not.  I
>   think of it as a smaller market thing, where the market
> can't support an independent NPR station.

As I said a little while ago, Mississippi's system might not have been
the norm back when public radio came along.  (When was that?  Late
'60s?)  The system here was for the actual station to be in Jackson but
for towers to be spread around the state.  Actually, I think in those
earlier days they were just towers bouncing the stuff from Jackson.
Later they had their own identifications, stated at the usual
identify-yourself moments that radios do.  But even now the real
broadcasting is coming from Jackson.  All the other stations in the
state aren't <real> stations.  It's not like what Bethany was describing
at UT.  Our only campus radio station is the campus radio station that
is not part of NPR.  Yet the NPR/PRM broadcasts here claim to be coming
from Mississippi State.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 12:16:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22081
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 12:16:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F2AF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:32:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12723489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:32:47 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64MWlZ09941 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:32:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws132-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.132]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64MWiQ24052
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:32:44 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020704215401.66ED67E0C@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D24C55D.7020008@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24CD08.5020E940@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:32:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

>         I need to drop 20 lbs. and get an orange bikini.

Why orange?  So you'll be found more easily if lost at sea?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 12:22:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22140
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 12:22:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E694E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:33:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12723578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:38:56 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64MctZ10429 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:38:55 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws132-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.132]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64McqQ25250
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:38:53 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041801560.6268-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24CE79.43473170@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:38:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> >I've gone to 100% state funded schools.
>
> I did not know there were any left. I have never been associated with one
> - every one I have studied at or worked for received a substantial amount
> of funding from federal agencies and privte donors.

I also have never heard of a school that didn't get federal funding and
private donations, though soft money is I guess a bit different from
state funding.  I do think it's quite rare, though, to find schools that
don't charge any tuition at all.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 12:29:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22238
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 12:29:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E696FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:40:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12723941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:45:30 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64MjUZ11203 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:45:30 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws132-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.132]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64MjSQ26138
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:45:28 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041804110.6268-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24D004.11CF5435@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:45:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> It seems to be quite unnecessarily selfish for anyone to decide to walk
> a mile to a hospital when she is bleeding and cannot know how serious the
> bleeding is - if there is any alternative. The woman had friends. She also
> obviously thought that she needed hospital attention! Delaying treatment
> for a serious condition can cost large amounts of money. Though one or
> one's insurer might pay part of it, the cost eventually goes through to
> the taxpayers.

I understand that taxpayers are involved in the costs for people of
Medicare age.  But how are taxpayers paying for my medical costs?

>  I know how much it
> costs taxpayers for one to either take an ambulance or go to a non-profit
> hospital ER, so I chose not to - since clearly my problem was not
> immediately life-threatening.

I don't know what a non-profit hospital ER is, but how much does it cost
taxpayers for one to take an ambulance?  I wasn't aware that it cost
taxpayers anything.  I've never had need to use an ambulance, but I
thought that if I did, the bill would come to me, not to the government.

> I have a friend who was on TennCare for a long time. She really made me
> angry when she would develop a medical problem, then deliberately wait to do
> something about it until the middle of the night, at which point she would
> call an ambulance and go to an emergency room. She should have gone to a
> dr or clinic during business hours. She cost TN taxpayers a bundle. One of
> her problems was that she felt <entitled>.

I don't know what TennCare is, but I would also be angry at somebody who
behaved in such a way if it was costing taxpayers.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 12:31:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22261
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 12:31:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6976A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:42:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12723976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:47:33 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g64MlXZ11378 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002
          18:47:33 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JHC00483; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:47:28 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JPJ01404; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:47:27 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D244400.6594.3BC9F58@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:48:00 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24CC81.F9914A2B@maynor.net>

On 4 Jul 2002 at 17:30, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Yet the NPR/PRM broadcasts here
> claim to be coming from Mississippi State.

That's because there is, in fact, a transmitter at Mississippi State
broadcasting programming originating in Jackson or wherever PRM produces
its content.

     mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 12:33:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22294
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 12:33:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F2B80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:49:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12724001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:49:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64MnUZ11535 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:49:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 622257CEA; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 15:49:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704224929.622257CEA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:49:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D244400.6594.3BC9F58@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 4, 2002 12:48: 0 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 4 Jul 2002 at 17:30, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > Yet the NPR/PRM broadcasts here
> > claim to be coming from Mississippi State.
>
> That's because there is, in fact, a transmitter at Mississippi State
> broadcasting programming originating in Jackson or wherever PRM produces
> its content.

Ithaca didn't have its own NPR station. It only had
a.... whatchamacallit. A retransmitter. A mirror? I'm confusing web
and radios. Of the Binghampton NPR. Ditto for Kirksville, of the
Columbia NPR station.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 12:35:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22324
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 12:35:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6983E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:46:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12724013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:51:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64MpRZ11686 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:51:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 72E717DBE; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 15:51:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704225126.72E717DBE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:51:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Well, Batfesters...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I have to go run errands. I'll be back in about an hour if anyone
wants to talk to me still.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 12:42:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22421
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 12:42:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E699BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:53:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12724197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 18:58:49 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64MwmZ12436 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:58:48 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws133-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.133]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64MwkQ27656
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:58:47 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041801560.6268-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D24CE79.43473170@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24D2F5.A5E0A9E2@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:57:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> private donations, though soft money is I guess a bit different from
> state funding.  I do think it's quite rare, though, to find schools that

How dumb that sounds.  Of course federal funding and private donations
are different from state funding.  That was your point.  What I meant
was that soft money isn't <regular>.  Like it's not as if the federal
gov't sends regular checks to all universities as part of a
fund-universities thing.  Ditto private donors.  The soft money is most
definitely assumed to be there for the running of a university, of
course, but it's up to faculty to generate grant money and to the pr
people to woo alums and others, etc. etc.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 12:44:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22444
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 12:44:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E69A59@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:55:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12724409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 19:00:55 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64N0sZ12724 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:00:55 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws133-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.133]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64N0qQ27929
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:00:53 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D244400.6594.3BC9F58@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24D3A0.8BADE5FC@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:00:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Michael E. Macmillan" wrote:

> > Yet the NPR/PRM broadcasts here
> > claim to be coming from Mississippi State.
>
> That's because there is, in fact, a transmitter at Mississippi State
> broadcasting programming originating in Jackson or wherever PRM produces
> its content.

Right.  That's what I meant about its being different from the NPR
station at UT.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 12:45:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22459
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 12:45:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E69A91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:56:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12724441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 19:02:01 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64N21Z12893 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:02:01 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws133-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.133]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g64N1wQ28216
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:01:59 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020704224929.622257CEA@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24D3E3.20E98C7D@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:01:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Ithaca didn't have its own NPR station. It only had
> a.... whatchamacallit. A retransmitter. A mirror? I'm confusing web
> and radios. Of the Binghampton NPR. Ditto for Kirksville, of the
> Columbia NPR station.

Nor do we have our own NPR <real> station.  That was my point.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 13:03:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22485
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 13:03:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F2C57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:19:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12724662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 19:19:54 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64NJsZ14050 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:19:54 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYQ005W5ZH63X@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 04 Jul 2002 18:19:54 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020704215401.66ED67E0C@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D24C55D.7020008@swbell.net> <3D24CD08.5020E940@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D24D7C3.5090000@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:18:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>        I need to drop 20 lbs. and get an orange bikini.
>>
>
> Why orange?  So you'll be found more easily if lost at sea?
>


        It appears to be *the* color.  Being lost at sea would be
unlikely.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 13:05:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22492
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 13:05:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6A045@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:16:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12724686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 19:22:10 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64NM9Z14309 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:22:09 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYQ005GCZKX3Y@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 04 Jul 2002 18:22:09 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041801560.6268-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D24D84A.6060004@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:20:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>I've gone to 100% state funded schools.
>>
>
> I did not know there were any left. I have never been associated with one
> - every one I have studied at or worked for received a substantial amount
> of funding from federal agencies and privte donors.


        Oh, for Christ sake.  100% of the schools I have attended
have been state funded.  I wouldn't know the percentages.  I
think at UMSL student tuition is 40% of the budget... I only
remember that because there was a big too-doo about how at
UMSL we pay more than students at the other UM schools.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 13:07:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22499
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 13:07:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6A0F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:18:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12724703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 19:23:41 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64NNfZ14394 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:23:41 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYQ005QEZNH5N@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 04 Jul 2002 18:23:41 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F199kvcUrm7Y2NLR1nQ00006f39@hotmail.com>
            <20020704191956.9A7407D8D@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020704144033.A43038@pobox.com> <3D24C3B7.F5457C16@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D24D8A6.8050905@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:22:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Tushar Samant wrote:
>
>
>>says "oriental" sounds like someone who still calls female students
>>"coeds"--what a dork...
>>
>
> I still say "dorm" instead of "residence hall."  Is that dorky?
>
> And this reminds me that I'm once again worrying about what will become
> of my books when I die.  In loading up the trunk of my car with books to
> take to the public library tomorrow -- I certainly hope it's not taking
> a holiday tomorrow since my poor car will probably barely move -- the
> trunk looks like Alyce's warehouse, I started going through other books
> and looking at lots of those tiny books of literary classics that were
> used in schools, both hs and college, back in the old days.  I have tons
> of them with names of my mother, my father, and my aunt.  Plus some
> little doodlings in some and little notes like my mother's reminder to
> herself that she had rehearsal on Apr. 21.  I'm tempted to give them all
> to the library (for the Friends of the Library book sales) right now
> just to keep them from being thrown away.


        Don't throw those out.  I'll take them for my classroom.
Just warn me in advance when you think you might die, and
I'll pay the shipping.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 13:08:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22503
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 13:08:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6A142@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:19:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12724744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 19:24:47 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64NOkZ14519 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:24:46 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYQ00504ZPA3X@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 04 Jul 2002 18:24:46 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020704221258.AE4EC7F41@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D24D8E7.1060809@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:23:19 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: History of the vibrator...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Alan Wild said:
>
>>Thanks Karen!
>>
>>How's your shooting going?  Last I heard, you were considering a few
>>different pistols, but that was many Moons ago.
>>
>
> No money for guns, alas.
>


        Wow.  I'll bet we never hear that phrase out of Congress.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 13:28:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22515
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 13:28:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6AA94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:39:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12724880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 19:45:04 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64NZ4Z15327 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:35:04 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64NZ3OI025635 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:35:03 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041932310.6776-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:35:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24D004.11CF5435@maynor.net>

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I understand that taxpayers are involved in the costs for people of
>Medicare age.  But how are taxpayers paying for my medical costs?

You pay - or your ins co - pays the direct billing, of course. But in
many cities, like Knoxville, many services are at least partly
state-funded. Taxpayer foot the bill for that.

>I don't know what a non-profit hospital ER is, but how much does it cost
>taxpayers for one to take an ambulance?  I wasn't aware that it cost
>taxpayers anything.  I've never had need to use an ambulance, but I
>thought that if I did, the bill would come to me, not to the government.

See above. I cannot tell you the price of services in locations other
than Knoxville.

>I don't know what TennCare is, but I would also be angry at somebody who
>behaved in such a way if it was costing taxpayers.

Please keep up, Natalie. We have TennCare instead of Medicaid. It
definitely costs taxpayers.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 13:32:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22527
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 13:32:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6ABFF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:43:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12724971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 19:48:30 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64NcUZ15589 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:38:30 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g64NcTOI026151 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:38:30 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041937100.6776-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:38:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      insurance costs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Many taxpayers pay for the activities of others - with no direct billing
involved. All taxpayers pay for such things as smoking-related illness &
death, motorcycle injuries when riders do not wear helmets, etc. Such
things drive up the cost of care, and it costs everybody over time.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 13:33:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22534
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 13:33:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6ACC4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:44:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12725090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 19:50:11 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64NoBZ16434 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:50:11 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9D6467DE1; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 16:50:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020704235010.9D6467DE1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:50:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24D3E3.20E98C7D@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 4,
              2002  6: 1:55 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Ithaca didn't have its own NPR station. It only had
> > a.... whatchamacallit. A retransmitter. A mirror? I'm confusing web
> > and radios. Of the Binghampton NPR. Ditto for Kirksville, of the
> > Columbia NPR station.
>
> Nor do we have our own NPR <real> station.  That was my point.

Yes, I got that. But many places DO have their own NPR <real> station.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 13:37:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22538
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 13:37:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6AE70@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:48:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12725124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 19:54:02 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64Ns2Z16722 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:54:02 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020704235356.SSEU15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:53:56 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEPLFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:56:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Listen to Robert Burns Himself
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F112gVBYJmczY4YhwfU0000512a@hotmail.com>

> Meanwhile we don't have tomorrow off.
>
> -rashmi

Neither does my company, which I believe is changing its name from
Esko-Graphics to Scrooge & Marley come the next merger...A lot of people are
taking tomorrow as a vacation day. I am not.

Not that I'm complaining! :D Far from it. Just observing.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 13:46:31 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22558
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 13:46:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000F2E90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:02:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12725239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:02:48 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6502mZ17376 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:02:48 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B7D9B7EF1; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 17:02:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705000247.B7D9B7EF1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:02:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: History of the vibrator...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24D8E7.1060809@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 4,
              2002  6:23:19 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Alan Wild said:
> >
> >>Thanks Karen!
> >>
> >>How's your shooting going?  Last I heard, you were considering a few
> >>different pistols, but that was many Moons ago.
> >>
> >
> > No money for guns, alas.
> >
>
>
>         Wow.  I'll bet we never hear that phrase out of Congress.

Well, I'm not in the middle of a war, either.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 13:50:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22562
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 13:50:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6B16E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:01:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12725301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:06:56 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6506uZ17623 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:06:56 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYR005041NJ41@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 04 Jul 2002 19:06:56 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041937100.6776-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D24E2C9.3000208@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:05:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: insurance costs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> Many taxpayers pay for the activities of others - with no direct billing
> involved. All taxpayers pay for such things as smoking-related illness &
> death, motorcycle injuries when riders do not wear helmets, etc. Such
> things drive up the cost of care, and it costs everybody over time.
>

Corporate profit margins have more to do with the cost of
care I think.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 13:52:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22569
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 13:52:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6B1C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:02:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12725334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:08:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6508IZ17739 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:08:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D66327F6B; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 17:08:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705000817.D66327F6B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:08:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24BE15.8040604@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 4,
              2002  4:28:53 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Tony Harminc said:
> >
> >>Though the proportion of saturated fat in things like lard and beef
> >>fat is much overestimated by many people. Lard is mostly unsaturated,
> >>and beef fat is close to half unsaturated. Butter is something like
> >>65% saturated, and then there are the tropical oils in a whole
> >>category of their own that no animal fat even approaches.
> >>
> >
> > I buy 'light' coconut milk for that reason. Sigh.
>
>
>         I tried the light stuff once, and it didn't taste like
> anything.

Well, you wouldn't like the dried coconut milk I bought, either.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 13:52:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22573
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 13:52:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6B1F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:03:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12725366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:09:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6509DZ17812 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:09:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5614A7F1C; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 17:09:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705000912.5614A7F1C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:09:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24C4E8.4BF11FBD@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 4,
              2002  4:58: 0 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Peter Kaminski wrote:
>
> > sweet-but-not-syrupy, the characters feel like real people, and there's
> > lots of funny little details to notice.  I really liked it.
>
> I trust that y'all know me well enough to know that this is not a
> <correction> or a suggestion that Pete <shouldn't> have written
> "there's" or any such thing.  I'm just interested in language change and
> have been noticing "there's" more and more lately.  I realize that
> "there's" for "there are" has been <committed> for eons, but I used to
> think of it as sort of like "he don't."  Lately (the past year maybe)
> I've been noticing that it's popping up everywhere, like in the e-mail
> of somebody like Pete.  Have y'all noticed that?  Is "there are" dying?

I know I've been saying this since I was a child.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 13:53:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22577
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 13:53:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6B223@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:04:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12725380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:09:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6509xZ17848 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:09:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D43077F3E; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 17:09:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705000958.D43077F3E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:09:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24C55D.7020008@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 4,
              2002  4:59:57 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Rita Chapman said:
> >
> >>>>       No.  I don't eat salmon.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Why?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>        I don't like it.
> >>
> >
> > What kind of fish do you like?
> >
>
>
>         Cod, haddock, trout, bass, shark.

Hm. White fishies.

>         Oh, we found a better sandbar today, btw.   Less drinking,
> smoking, and surreptitious fucking going on.  More kids,
> dogs, and people who wear sunscreen.

Good.

>         I need to drop 20 lbs. and get an orange bikini.

Don't we all.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 13:55:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22584
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 13:55:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6B28C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:06:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12725403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:11:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g650BeZ17995 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:11:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C1D667F04; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 17:11:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705001139.C1D667F04@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:11:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      My Batfest Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Will not be complete until I hear from Steph and Bonnie.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 13:56:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22588
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 13:56:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6B2C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:07:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12725410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:12:44 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g650ChZ18067 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:12:43 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020705001238.IYMM6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 00:12:38 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEPMFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:15:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Calling Austin
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020704210647.C46E57FB0@yellow.rahul.net>

> I thought it was you, but it was Adam. I couldn't figure out why your
> voice was so much lower than I remembered.:)
>
> Karen

Hormone treatments.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 13:58:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22592
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 13:58:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6B326@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:09:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12725447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:14:56 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g650EuZ18189 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:14:56 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws196-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.196]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g650DkQ06917
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:13:46 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F199kvcUrm7Y2NLR1nQ00006f39@hotmail.com>
            <20020704191956.9A7407D8D@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020704144033.A43038@pobox.com> <3D24C3B7.F5457C16@maynor.net>
            <3D24D8A6.8050905@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24E4B7.27AC2137@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:13:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

>         Don't throw those out.  I'll take them for my classroom.
> Just warn me in advance when you think you might die, and
> I'll pay the shipping.

I somehow can't picture these books in a current classroom.  The
students would find them way weird.  Maybe that's good in that they
might not be likely to trash them or anything if they found them truly
weird.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:01:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22605
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 14:01:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6B3B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:12:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12725542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:17:24 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g650HOZ18450 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:17:24 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws196-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.196]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g650HLQ07462
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:17:22 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041932310.6776-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24E58E.36ED54A2@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:17:18 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >I don't know what TennCare is, but I would also be angry at somebody who
> >behaved in such a way if it was costing taxpayers.
>
> Please keep up, Natalie. We have TennCare instead of Medicaid. It
> definitely costs taxpayers.

Do I have to keep up with the names used by every state that doesn't use
Medicaid?  (Actually, I must admit that I thought all states used
Medicaid.)  Of course Medicaid and its clones cost the taxpayers.  But
what does that have to do with whether I choose to walk to the hospital
while bleeding profusesly?  I'm not Medicaid-eligible and presumably
won't ever be.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:07:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22609
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 14:07:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6B50C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:18:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12725695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:23:27 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g650NRZ18923 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:23:27 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYR0056J2F23T@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 04 Jul 2002 19:23:27 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F199kvcUrm7Y2NLR1nQ00006f39@hotmail.com>
            <20020704191956.9A7407D8D@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020704144033.A43038@pobox.com> <3D24C3B7.F5457C16@maynor.net>
            <3D24D8A6.8050905@swbell.net> <3D24E4B7.27AC2137@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D24E6A8.2040104@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:22:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>        Don't throw those out.  I'll take them for my classroom.
>>Just warn me in advance when you think you might die, and
>>I'll pay the shipping.
>>
>
> I somehow can't picture these books in a current classroom.  The
> students would find them way weird.  Maybe that's good in that they
> might not be likely to trash them or anything if they found them truly
> weird.
>

        I thought you said they were classics?  What titles are you
talking about?




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:08:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22616
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 14:08:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6B543@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:19:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12725720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:24:48 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g650OmZ18978 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:24:48 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws196-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.196]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g650OjQ08760
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:24:46 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020705000912.5614A7F1C@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24E74A.FABC7E1D@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:24:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > I've been noticing that it's popping up everywhere, like in the e-mail
> > of somebody like Pete.  Have y'all noticed that?  Is "there are" dying?
>
> I know I've been saying this since I was a child.

I had noticed it recently in a posting from you also.  But it's not just
on Words-L that I've been noticing it.  I've been noticing it all over
the place.

Oh my gosh.  Tears are streaming.  Sorry, Rita -- or I think it was Rita
who once chastised me for talking about Giggles.  I turned on my tv set
while ago and set it to some kind of July 4 music program on A&E.  I'm
in a faraway room from it but am now hearing "You'll Never Walk Alone."
(What that has to do with July 4 I don't know.)  Anyway, that song has
made me cry for years.  Dippy though it may be, it is special for me.
Super special.  I would be crying right now even if there weren't a
Giggles angle.  But there is, of course.  His "Carousel" role added to
the significances that music already had for me.

I can't explain it.  Nobody wants me to anyway.  It's just that I'm
awash in tears right now.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:21:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22637
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 14:21:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6B8D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:32:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12726003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:38:05 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g650c5Z19870 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002
          20:38:05 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JHG00275; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:37:59 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JPN00794; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:37:57 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D245DE6.17485.421C895@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:38:30 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24E74A.FABC7E1D@maynor.net>

On 4 Jul 2002 at 19:24, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> I can't explain it.  Nobody wants me to anyway.  It's just that
> I'm awash in tears right now.

For no particular reason, I've been wondering lately what became of Bill
Holler. Or do we know and I've just forgotten?

    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:24:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22644
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 14:24:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6B9A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:35:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12726063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:40:48 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g650emZ20041 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:40:48 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYR005D537Z0Z@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 04 Jul 2002 19:40:47 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041932310.6776-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D24E58E.36ED54A2@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D24EAB8.8010807@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:39:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
>
>>>I don't know what TennCare is, but I would also be angry at somebody who
>>>behaved in such a way if it was costing taxpayers.
>>>
>>Please keep up, Natalie. We have TennCare instead of Medicaid. It
>>definitely costs taxpayers.
>>
>
> Do I have to keep up with the names used by every state that doesn't use
> Medicaid?  (Actually, I must admit that I thought all states used
> Medicaid.)  Of course Medicaid and its clones cost the taxpayers.  But
> what does that have to do with whether I choose to walk to the hospital
> while bleeding profusesly?  I'm not Medicaid-eligible and presumably
> won't ever be.
>


        But you have special status as a state worker.

Everything comes out of tax-payer pockets when it comes to your expenses.


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:26:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22655
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 14:26:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6BA5B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:37:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12726078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:42:51 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g650gpZ20125 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:42:51 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws95-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.95]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g650gmQ11793
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:42:49 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020705001139.C1D667F04@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24EB85.B271CE0B@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:42:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: My Batfest Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Will not be complete until I hear from Steph and Bonnie.

Re Bonniemae, let us not forget tomorrow!

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:33:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22670
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 14:33:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6BC42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:44:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12726148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:49:45 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g650njZ20475 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:49:45 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws95-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.95]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g650nhQ12854
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:49:43 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F199kvcUrm7Y2NLR1nQ00006f39@hotmail.com>
            <20020704191956.9A7407D8D@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020704144033.A43038@pobox.com> <3D24C3B7.F5457C16@maynor.net>
            <3D24D8A6.8050905@swbell.net> <3D24E4B7.27AC2137@maynor.net>
            <3D24E6A8.2040104@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24ED22.8DE3C65C@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:49:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> > I somehow can't picture these books in a current classroom.  The
> > students would find them way weird.  Maybe that's good in that they
> > might not be likely to trash them or anything if they found them truly
> > weird.
>         I thought you said they were classics?  What titles are you
> talking about?

Yes, they are classics -- Shakespeare, Sheridan, Tennyson, Browning, a
few AmLit titles, etc.  But I don't think you understand the kind of
book I'm talking about.  Your parents are way too young to have had
them.  Maybe your grandparents or great-grandparents did.  They're the
little square books published in the late nineteenth and early twentieth
century and bought by students in junior high, high school, and
college.

All of the <titles> are available in inexpensive ordinary books.  I'm
all for your future students reading these classics, but I must admit
that the last fate in the world I want for these particular books is for
them to be sitting around in a classroom.  It would be great for some of
them to be in your house with Ana looking at them with deference to
their age, etc.  That's exactly why I was thinking about taking them to
the Friends of the Starkville Public Library.  People who go to the
library book sales tend to be book lovers.  They would appreciate the
age and significance of these books -- as in the physical books.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:35:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22680
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 14:35:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F3090@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:51:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12726209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:51:52 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g650ppZ20652 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:51:51 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws95-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.95]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g650pnQ13137
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:51:49 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D245DE6.17485.421C895@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24EDA1.685FFB25@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:51:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Michael E. Macmillan" wrote:

> For no particular reason, I've been wondering lately what became of Bill
> Holler. Or do we know and I've just forgotten?

I don't know for sure, but I think it's not good.  The last time I sent
him a card, addressed to the nursing home he was in, it came back a good
while later with an "addressee unknown" stamp.  That was sometime not
long after Giggles died.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:39:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22687
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 14:39:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6BC96@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:50:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12726274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:56:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g650u1Z20964 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:56:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B0AE97F74; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 17:56:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705005600.B0AE97F74@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:56:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Calling Austin
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEPMFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 4, 2002  8:15: 0 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> > I thought it was you, but it was Adam. I couldn't figure out why your
> > voice was so much lower than I remembered.:)
> >
> > Karen
>
> Hormone treatments.

Actually, when Betty called I recognized her voice at once.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:40:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22694
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 14:40:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6BC98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:50:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12726282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:56:16 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g650uGZ20975 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:56:16 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws95-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.95]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g650uDQ13806
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:56:14 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041932310.6776-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D24E58E.36ED54A2@maynor.net> <3D24EAB8.8010807@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24EEAA.1C2560B2@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:56:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

>         But you have special status as a state worker.
>
> Everything comes out of tax-payer pockets when it comes to your expenses.

No, I am no longer a state worker.  I pay 100% for my medical
insurance.  But I'm not sure why you think that everything comes out of
the tax-payer pockets for medical expenses of state workers.  It
doesn't.  Blue Cross is the current insurance provider for people in the
state-employee group.  The company changes often, but afaik they are
always private insurance companies.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:41:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22705
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 14:41:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6BC9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:52:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12726289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:57:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g650vTZ21065 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:57:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DADAC7E28; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 17:57:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705005728.DADAC7E28@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:57:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D245DE6.17485.421C895@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 4, 2002  2:38:30 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 4 Jul 2002 at 19:24, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > I can't explain it.  Nobody wants me to anyway.  It's just that
> > I'm awash in tears right now.
>
> For no particular reason, I've been wondering lately what became of Bill
> Holler. Or do we know and I've just forgotten?

I think he died and you forgot. (With good reason--it's the kind of
thing one likes to repress.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:41:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22709
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 14:41:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6BC9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:52:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12726296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 20:58:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g650w1Z21127 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:58:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A7F5B7E28; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 17:58:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705005800.A7F5B7E28@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:58:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Batfest Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24EB85.B271CE0B@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 4,
              2002  7:42:45 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > Will not be complete until I hear from Steph and Bonnie.
>
> Re Bonniemae, let us not forget tomorrow!

What about tomorrow?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:57:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22726
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 14:57:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6BCF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:08:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12726595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 21:13:43 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g651DhZ22438 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:13:43 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws135-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.135]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g651DeQ16875
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:13:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020705005728.DADAC7E28@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24F2BD.A25ED613@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:13:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I think he died and you forgot. (With good reason--it's the kind of
> thing one likes to repress.)

I don't think we ever got the official word.  But I do think it's likely
that he did die.  And yes, it's not something one likes to think about.
I'm really, really, really glad we did Hollerfest.  I assume those
pictures are still online, aren't they?  Bill wasn't with us at the
rides in the park, but there were some of him that night at dinner.  I
hate that there weren't any pictures of his house.  Our tour of it was
fun.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:57:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22733
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 14:57:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6BCF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:08:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12726599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 21:13:45 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g651DjZ22448 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002
          21:13:45 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JHG00867; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:13:39 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JPN02499; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:13:38 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D246642.25093.4427010@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 15:14:10 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24EDA1.685FFB25@maynor.net>

On 4 Jul 2002 at 19:51, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> I don't know for sure, but I think it's not good.

That's what I supposed, given the state of his health when last heard from. I'm
not a big believer in the all-healing powers of the concept of closure, but one
does like to know some things with the certainty and specificity. Including
who got the statues.

    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:57:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22737
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 14:57:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6BCF9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:08:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12726603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 21:14:06 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g651E5Z22475 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:14:05 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws135-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.135]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g651E3Q16951
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:14:04 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020705005800.A7F5B7E28@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24F2D8.CCFC0121@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:14:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: My Batfest Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > Re Bonniemae, let us not forget tomorrow!
>
> What about tomorrow?

It's July 5.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:00:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22750
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 15:00:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6BD0D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:11:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12726693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 21:17:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g651H2Z22753 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:17:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws135-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.135]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g651GiQ17268
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:16:44 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D246642.25093.4427010@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24F378.8C20804C@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:16:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Michael E. Macmillan" wrote:

> does like to know some things with the certainty and specificity. Including
> who got the statues.

Giggles let us down!  He needed to be there to tell us these things.  I
did exchange e-mail with Giggles's Betty sometime after I got that
returned mail addressed to Bill, and she said she'd try to find out
about him.  But we haven't communicated since then.

I'm thinking right now that I might send e-mail to the French Dept at
NCSU.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:04:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22754
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 15:04:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000F31F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:20:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12726775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 21:20:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g651KrZ22982 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:20:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 90FA27E28; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 18:20:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705012052.90FA27E28@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:20:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24F2BD.A25ED613@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 4,
              2002  8:13:33 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> rides in the park, but there were some of him that night at dinner.  I
> hate that there weren't any pictures of his house.  Our tour of it was
> fun.

I'm pretty sure there were pictures of his house at one point and that
I saw them. He had amazing stuff, as I recall.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:05:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22761
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 15:05:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6BD27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:15:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12726779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 21:21:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g651LHZ23002 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:21:17 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1D3EA7EA0; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 18:21:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705012117.1D3EA7EA0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:21:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Batfest Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24F2D8.CCFC0121@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 4,
              2002  8:14: 0 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > Re Bonniemae, let us not forget tomorrow!
> >
> > What about tomorrow?
>
> It's July 5.

So what?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:09:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22765
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 15:09:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6BD3A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:20:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12726837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 21:26:04 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g651Q4Z23250 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:26:04 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws135-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.135]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g651Q1Q18509
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:26:01 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020705012052.90FA27E28@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24F5A6.DA1E2E6C@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:25:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I'm pretty sure there were pictures of his house at one point and that
> I saw them. He had amazing stuff, as I recall.

It may be that there were pictures of his house.  I do have mental
pictures of it.  Great house, great stuff.  Meanwhile, I just sent
e-mail to the head secretary in his former department inquiring about
him.  Whether we'll get an answer will perhaps depend on how new that
person is -- or whether if new he or she is into departmental history.
It was a good many years ago that he retired.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:10:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22772
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 15:10:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6BD4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:21:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12726887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 21:27:08 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g651R8Z23379 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:27:08 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws135-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.135]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g651R6Q18666
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:27:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020705012117.1D3EA7EA0@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D24F5E6.3F109BB2@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:27:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: My Batfest Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > It's July 5.
>
> So what?

WHERE IS PHYLLIS????

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:25:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22793
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 15:25:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6BD87@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:36:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12727074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 21:41:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g651fZZ24040 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:41:35 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7FFD87F83; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 18:41:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705014134.7FFD87F83@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:41:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Batfest Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24F5E6.3F109BB2@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 4,
              2002  8:27: 2 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > > It's July 5.
> >
> > So what?
>
> WHERE IS PHYLLIS????

Bethany was the last one to talk to her.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:52:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22835
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 15:52:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000F3404@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:08:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12727360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 22:08:41 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g651wfZ24949 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:58:41 -0400
Received: from menudo.vt.com (root@menudo.vt.com [204.117.188.234]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g651weN10577 for
          <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:58:40 -0400
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230]) by
          menudo.vt.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA11037 for
          <steph@words-l.org>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:46:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from davisr.multimediarepro.com (davisr.multimediarepro.com
          [204.95.236.40]) by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA09607
          for <steph@words-l.org>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:47:15 -0500 (CDT)
X-Authentication-Warning: taco.vt.com: davisr.multimediarepro.com
                         [204.95.236.40] didn't use HELO protocol
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: from words-l.org by 3P380J5.words-l.org with SMTP for
          steph@words-l.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 21:55:01 -0500
X-Encoding: MIME
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Priority: 3
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <76G32X645IIHF.5IIG6SFPNS4X7L09U.steph@words-l.org>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:55:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph@WORDS-L.ORG
Subject:      Lowest Mortgage Rates Around
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

We will help you get the mortgage loan you want!

Only takes 2 minutes to fill out our form.
http://61.172.250.143/cl6/st/index.php

Whether a new home loan is what you seek or to refinance your current home =
loan
at a lower interest rate and payment, we can help!

Mortgage rates haven't been this low in the last 12 months, take action now!
Refinance your home with us and include all of those pesky credit card bills =
or
use the extra cash for that pool you've always wanted...

Where others says NO, we say YES!!!
Even if you have been turned down elsewhere, we can help!

Easy terms! Our mortgage referral service combines the
highest quality loans with most economical rates and the easiest =
qualification!

Click Here to fill out our form.
http://61.172.250.143/cl6/st/index.php

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 16:02:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22853
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 16:02:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6BF2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:13:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12728960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 22:19:10 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6529AZ28392 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:09:10 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6529AOI014243 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:09:10 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207042207590.7928-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:09:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24E58E.36ED54A2@maynor.net>

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>Do I have to keep up with the names used by every state that doesn't use
>Medicaid?  (Actually, I must admit that I thought all states used
>Medicaid.)  Of course Medicaid and its clones cost the taxpayers.  But
>what does that have to do with whether I choose to walk to the hospital
>while bleeding profusesly?  I'm not Medicaid-eligible and presumably
>won't ever be.

It will be easy. TN is the only state that does not use Medicaid. (And it
is not a clone.)

I did not suggest that you use Medicaid. I know that you do not.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 16:04:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22860
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 16:04:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F349D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:20:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12729395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 22:20:50 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g652KoZ29615 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:20:50 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g652KmQ25958
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:20:48 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D25027C.FF5E3BF@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:20:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ok, so I went in there and listened to the end of the A&E special
because I have this <need> to hear the 1812 Overture on July 4.  I know
I have hokey taste.  I make no apologies.  Just don't anybody bother to
tell me about my tastes.  I'm too old.  (And I held my own in the battle
of the tastes the summer I spent in Chicago when I lured a friend up to
Navy Pier to hear hokey things like Wagner being played by the Chicago
Symphony that night.  I wasn't even old then.  And he seemed to enjoy
that night, in spite of the difference in our tastes.)

Anyway, I noticed that the sound coming from my tv set was really bad --
as in tinny and shallow.  When ETV does music, it almost always gives
the opportunity of turning on PRM to go with it, which I do -- as in I
turn on the fm receiver that's hooked to my 32-yr-old, wonderful KLH
speakers and hear the sound from those speakers while watching the
public tv.  But A&E doesn't have that option.

So here's my question.  I've been thinking that since I'm about to
become a person of leisure and can pay more attention to things like tv,
it would be fun to have one of those big-screen things.  Not that I'm
likely to turn it on every night, but it would be fun for watching
things like MSU football games in the fall, movies, etc.  Didn't
somebody here (JMW?) say a while back that it would be wise to wait --
something about dvd?  I want better sound if watching music on tv, and I
do think a larger screen would be fun on occasion.  Advice?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 16:08:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22864
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 16:08:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6BF42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:19:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12729269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 22:24:26 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g652EQZ29206 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:14:26 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g652EPOI014774 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:14:25 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207042211550.7928-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:14:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: My Batfest Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020705014134.7FFD87F83@yellow.rahul.net>

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> WHERE IS PHYLLIS????
>
>Bethany was the last one to talk to her.

I saw her in October - Sunday, Oct. 14th, I think - we had breakfast in
Raleigh. Have I talked to her since? I can't remember. Yes - I did - when
her sister was being so awful.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 16:09:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22871
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 16:09:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6BF55@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:20:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12729504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 22:25:57 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g652PvZ29937 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:25:57 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust215.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.217]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003702112@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 22:25:34 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D25027C.FF5E3BF@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2502A0.24338773@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:21:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

  Advice?

It will not fit in your car and you must have someone
deliver/carry/install it.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 16:30:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22907
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 16:30:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F35DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:46:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12729920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 22:46:36 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g652kaZ31219 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:46:36 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-74.panax.com
          [65.114.190.74]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g652kXj17901 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:46:33
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020704224400.00b65840@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:46:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Bonniemae speaks
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

 >Re Bonniemae, let us not forget tomorrow!
 >-- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Yes, tomorrow is my 57th birthday.  If I live for another hour and 15
minutes I will have outlived the Ouija board prediction and might survive
into my 90s.  I did rather tempt fate by calling Karen during a
thunderstorm which is still raging here in Unreal Maine.

       --bonniev, still nomail because of company sleeping in my computer room.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 16:33:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22911
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 16:33:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6C006@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:44:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12729737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 22:50:03 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g652e3Z30818 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:40:03 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g652e2OI018098 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:40:02 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207042234300.7928-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:40:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Nive evening
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I spent most of the evening on my couch with my right leg elevated. I
watched the capital concert/fireworks - I always do - love it. I was there
one 4th of July (1984), and I feel a special sense of place watching it.

Then I turned to the last of the local concert - Kirk Trevor's last time
to direct the KSO on July 4, as he is leaving after 17 years with us. He
reminded us what it was like when he directed his first Independence Day
concert (he is English). The fireworks were great, and they began during
the playing of the 1812 Overture, Natalie. Trevor was decked out in an
Uncle Sam outfit - very dramatic, very fitting.

The concert has moved to Chilhowee Park - a place I have never been. I
have never figured out how to get there. It used to be in the World's
Fair Park, which no longer exists. The new Convention Center is there.

And now, my friends - and others! - goodnight!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 16:48:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22945
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 16:48:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F383A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:04:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12733147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 23:04:32 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6534WZ01386 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:04:32 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6534RFA005714 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:04:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020705000912.5614A7F1C@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020704200330.00a29b50@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:04:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24E74A.FABC7E1D@maynor.net>

At 07:24 PM 7/4/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > > I've been noticing that it's popping up everywhere, like in the e-mail
> > > of somebody like Pete.  Have y'all noticed that?  Is "there are" dying?
> >
> > I know I've been saying this since I was a child.
>
>I had noticed it recently in a posting from you also.  But it's not just
>on Words-L that I've been noticing it.  I've been noticing it all over
>the place.
>
>Oh my gosh.  Tears are streaming.  Sorry, Rita -- or I think it was Rita
>who once chastised me for talking about Giggles.  I turned on my tv set
>while ago and set it to some kind of July 4 music program on A&E.  I'm
>in a faraway room from it but am now hearing "You'll Never Walk Alone."
>(What that has to do with July 4 I don't know.)  Anyway, that song has
>made me cry for years.  Dippy though it may be, it is special for me.
>Super special.  I would be crying right now even if there weren't a
>Giggles angle.  But there is, of course.  His "Carousel" role added to
>the significances that music already had for me.
>
>I can't explain it.  Nobody wants me to anyway.  It's just that I'm
>awash in tears right now.

I did a double take when I was handed this card at my conference that
had  http://ce.sinclair.edu

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 16:50:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22953
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 16:50:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6C525@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:01:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12733906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 23:06:50 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6536nZ01770 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:06:49 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6536kFA008573 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:06:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020705005728.DADAC7E28@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020704200551.00a269b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:06:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D24F2BD.A25ED613@maynor.net>

At 08:13 PM 7/4/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > I think he died and you forgot. (With good reason--it's the kind of
> > thing one likes to repress.)
>
>I don't think we ever got the official word.  But I do think it's likely
>that he did die.  And yes, it's not something one likes to think about.
>I'm really, really, really glad we did Hollerfest.  I assume those
>pictures are still online, aren't they?  Bill wasn't with us at the
>rides in the park, but there were some of him that night at dinner.  I
>hate that there weren't any pictures of his house.  Our tour of it was
>fun.

Ken and I both took pictures on our visit going and coming from BeachFest.
I'm glad I got to meet him.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 17:02:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22966
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 17:02:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6C622@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:13:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12734700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 23:19:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g653J3Z02892 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:19:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 27C867DEF; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 20:19:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705031903.27C867DEF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:19:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bonniemae speaks
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020704224400.00b65840@mail.panax.com> from bonniev
              at "Jul 4, 2002 10:46:25 pm"

bonniev said:
> Yes, tomorrow is my 57th birthday.  If I live for another hour and 15
> minutes I will have outlived the Ouija board prediction and might survive
> into my 90s.

Woohoo! I wish you the best.

> I did rather tempt fate by calling Karen during a
> thunderstorm which is still raging here in Unreal Maine.

That's the best time to call.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 17:05:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22973
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 17:05:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6C633@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:15:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12734756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 23:21:18 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g653LHZ03015 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:21:17 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYR0042SAMHGB@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 04 Jul 2002 22:20:41 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207042234300.7928-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D25102D.9070101@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:19:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Nive evening
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Here on Harness Drive, Ana I hung out in the backyard for
awhile listening to the St. Louis Symphony concert, then we
moved to the front yard for a better view of the fireworks
(trees are getting too tall).  Half the entertainment is
watching people trying to get into the park from our street.
  There's no entrance, and even if there were, that
particular section of park is the staging ground for the
fireworks.

They did play the 1812 (an ok job), but didn't have the
cannons and it didn't coincide in any way with the
fireworks.  Well, it's Florissant, not Boston after all.

I still haven't gotten used to having the fireworks over the
house like this.  It feels like we're being bombed.


Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> I spent most of the evening on my couch with my right leg elevated. I
> watched the capital concert/fireworks - I always do - love it. I was there
> one 4th of July (1984), and I feel a special sense of place watching it.
>
> Then I turned to the last of the local concert - Kirk Trevor's last time
> to direct the KSO on July 4, as he is leaving after 17 years with us. He
> reminded us what it was like when he directed his first Independence Day
> concert (he is English). The fireworks were great, and they began during
> the playing of the 1812 Overture, Natalie. Trevor was decked out in an
> Uncle Sam outfit - very dramatic, very fitting.
>
> The concert has moved to Chilhowee Park - a place I have never been. I
> have never figured out how to get there. It used to be in the World's
> Fair Park, which no longer exists. The new Convention Center is there.
>
> And now, my friends - and others! - goodnight!
>
> Bethany
>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 17:05:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22980
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 17:05:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6C636@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:16:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12734765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 23:21:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g653LiZ03031 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:21:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 480537DA0; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 20:21:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705032144.480537DA0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:21:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      My Last Batfest Post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I'm getting ready to go to bed, but I wanted to thank everyone who
made this a very special Fest Day for me.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 17:06:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22984
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 17:06:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6C638@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:17:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12734775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 23:22:43 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g653MhZ03099 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:22:43 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust82.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.84]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005010849@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 23:22:42 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D25027C.FF5E3BF@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D251001.47AE0A53@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:18:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
say a while back that it would be wise to wait --
> something about dvd?

DVD players are replacing tape players rapidly. The cost is coming down.
Getting a DVD player has nothing to do with getting a large TV.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 17:09:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22988
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 17:09:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6C64B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:20:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12734827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 23:25:26 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g653PQZ03222 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:25:26 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYR00475AUDGG@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 04 Jul 2002 22:25:26 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F199kvcUrm7Y2NLR1nQ00006f39@hotmail.com>
            <20020704191956.9A7407D8D@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020704144033.A43038@pobox.com> <3D24C3B7.F5457C16@maynor.net>
            <3D24D8A6.8050905@swbell.net> <3D24E4B7.27AC2137@maynor.net>
            <3D24E6A8.2040104@swbell.net> <3D24ED22.8DE3C65C@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D25114A.4060409@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:23:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>>I somehow can't picture these books in a current classroom.  The
>>>students would find them way weird.  Maybe that's good in that they
>>>might not be likely to trash them or anything if they found them truly
>>>weird.
>>>
>>        I thought you said they were classics?  What titles are you
>>talking about?
>>
>
> Yes, they are classics -- Shakespeare, Sheridan, Tennyson, Browning, a
> few AmLit titles, etc.  But I don't think you understand the kind of
> book I'm talking about.  Your parents are way too young to have had
> them.  Maybe your grandparents or great-grandparents did.  They're the
> little square books published in the late nineteenth and early twentieth
> century and bought by students in junior high, high school, and
> college.
>
> All of the <titles> are available in inexpensive ordinary books.  I'm
> all for your future students reading these classics, but I must admit
> that the last fate in the world I want for these particular books is for
> them to be sitting around in a classroom.  It would be great for some of
> them to be in your house with Ana looking at them with deference to
> their age, etc.  That's exactly why I was thinking about taking them to
> the Friends of the Starkville Public Library.  People who go to the
> library book sales tend to be book lovers.  They would appreciate the
> age and significance of these books -- as in the physical books.


        Oh, no, I know what you're talking about.  I have an edition
of one of those I picked up at a bookstore a long, long time
ago.  I probably wouldn't put them in a classroom.  Except
maybe for a show 'n tell thing.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 17:10:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22995
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 17:10:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6C65F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:21:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12734899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 23:26:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g653QpZ03341 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:26:51 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 86FCA7DE1; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 20:26:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705032650.86FCA7DE1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:26:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D251001.47AE0A53@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 4,
              2002 11:18:25 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Natalie Maynor wrote:
> >
> say a while back that it would be wise to wait --
> > something about dvd?
>
> DVD players are replacing tape players rapidly. The cost is coming down.
> Getting a DVD player has nothing to do with getting a large TV.

In fact, you'll need a new stereo receiver if you want surround sound
and all that.

Also, don't forget that DVDs only play DVDs--you can't record a movie
that's playing on TV on them.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 17:11:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22999
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 17:11:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6C663@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:22:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12734914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 23:27:36 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g653RaZ03413 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:27:36 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYR00441AY0I0@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 04 Jul 2002 22:27:36 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041932310.6776-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D24E58E.36ED54A2@maynor.net> <3D24EAB8.8010807@swbell.net>
            <3D24EEAA.1C2560B2@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2511CC.2060305@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:26:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>        But you have special status as a state worker.
>>
>>Everything comes out of tax-payer pockets when it comes to your expenses.
>>
>
> No, I am no longer a state worker.  I pay 100% for my medical
> insurance.  But I'm not sure why you think that everything comes out of
> the tax-payer pockets for medical expenses of state workers.  It
> doesn't.  Blue Cross is the current insurance provider for people in the
> state-employee group.  The company changes often, but afaik they are
> always private insurance companies.


        Out of money you earned working for the state.  And the state
pays Blue Cross.  Probably almost everything you own has
been paid for by the taxpayers of Mississippi.


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 17:15:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23034
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 17:15:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6C678@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:26:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12734970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 23:31:25 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g653VPZ03579 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:31:25 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g653VLkN025307 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:31:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020704203034.00a248f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:31:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: My Last Batfest Post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020705032144.480537DA0@yellow.rahul.net>

At 08:21 PM 7/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>I'm getting ready to go to bed, but I wanted to thank everyone who
>made this a very special Fest Day for me.

Nite, Karen.  You don't even have to clean up after us.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 17:18:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23061
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 17:18:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F3A2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:34:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12735007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 23:34:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g653YwZ03777 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:34:58 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 195C07EF1; Thu,  4
          Jul 2002 20:34:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705033458.195C07EF1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:34:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Last Batfest Post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020704203034.00a248f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 4, 2002  8:31:12 pm"

Betty said:
> At 08:21 PM 7/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >I'm getting ready to go to bed, but I wanted to thank everyone who
> >made this a very special Fest Day for me.
>
> Nite, Karen.  You don't even have to clean up after us.

No, that's a definite advantage.:)

I even ate fresh pineapple today, in honor of Mem, who didn't even
bother to phone me...

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 17:32:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23109
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 17:32:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6C6CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:43:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12735258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Jul
          2002 23:49:09 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g653n9Z04594 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:49:09 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g653n6ec028379 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:49:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020704203034.00a248f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020704204836.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:48:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: My Last Batfest Post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020705033458.195C07EF1@yellow.rahul.net>

At 08:34 PM 7/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > At 08:21 PM 7/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >I'm getting ready to go to bed, but I wanted to thank everyone who
> > >made this a very special Fest Day for me.
> >
> > Nite, Karen.  You don't even have to clean up after us.
>
>No, that's a definite advantage.:)
>
>I even ate fresh pineapple today, in honor of Mem, who didn't even
>bother to phone me...

Hey, he designed the shirt. What more do you want?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 17:48:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23151
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 17:48:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6C93D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:59:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12737178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 00:04:03 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g65443Z06777 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002
          00:04:03 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JHM00670; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 00:03:58 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JPT01961; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 00:03:57 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <20020705033458.195C07EF1@yellow.rahul.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D248E2D.15468.4DE5E02@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:04:29 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: My Last Batfest Post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020704204836.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On 4 Jul 2002 at 20:48, Betty wrote:

> Hey, he designed the shirt. What more do you want?

I can't bear the thought that that angelic memory from days or yore might be
supplanted by a more earthly reality. Besides, I'm a lousy conversationalist.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 21:10:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23630
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 21:10:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6CFC8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 3:21:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12743005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 03:26:56 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g657QtZ23806 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 03:26:55 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g657Ucv06175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:30:38
          +0200
References: <20020704222051.C4895@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020704211000.62DAB7FBB@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020705093038.A6165@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:30:38 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020704211000.62DAB7FBB@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 02:10:00PM -0700

= >
= > Ha!  It's busy!
=
= Well, it's not busy at this very moment. Damn! I'd love to talk to you.
=
= Karen

I'll call some other time.  It was bedtime already when I
called/posted.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 21:54:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23688
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 21:54:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F468D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 4:10:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12743512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 04:10:22 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6589wZ26873 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 04:09:58 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g658Dgj06276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:13:42
          +0200
References: <3D25027C.FF5E3BF@maynor.net> <3D251001.47AE0A53@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020705101342.B6165@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:13:42 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D251001.47AE0A53@valstar.net>; from alybooks@VALSTAR.NET on
              Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 11:18:25PM -0400

On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 11:18:25PM -0400, alyce cresap wrote:
= Natalie Maynor wrote:
= >
= say a while back that it would be wise to wait --
= > something about dvd?
=
= DVD players are replacing tape players rapidly. The cost is coming down.
= Getting a DVD player has nothing to do with getting a large TV.
=

well, it kinda does, as if you get a wide screen tv, and a dvd
player then you can watch the dvd's in wide screen mode.

But, whereas I kinda like wide screen, Patrick doesn't (he thinks
it warps the stuff broadcast in 4:3 mode), so even though we got
a new, big for us (like 27 inch?) tv, it's 4:3 instead of 16:9.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 22:17:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23720
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 29 May 1960 22:17:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6D07C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 4:28:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12743650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 04:33:23 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g658XNZ28260 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 04:33:23 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020705083316.JABD903.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:33:16 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D25027C.FF5E3BF@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020705000242.02314e40@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 00:50:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D251001.47AE0A53@valstar.net>

alyce cresap writes,

>Getting a DVD player has nothing to do with getting a large TV.

But now that DVD players are common, big screen TVs will have special
features to play movies better from them, like 16:9 aspect management or a
reverse 3:2 pull-down processor.

I haven't shopped for big TVs, but the Sony KP-61HS30 looks pretty good
from the specs, and J&R has it for "only" $2000. :)

http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product_Id=1970472
http://www.audioreview.com/PRD_126547_2727crx.aspx

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 00:42:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23849
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 00:42:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6D392@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 6:52:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12746040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 06:58:14 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65AwEZ06443 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 06:58:14 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws88-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.88]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g65AwAQ11688
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 05:58:11 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D25027C.FF5E3BF@maynor.net> <3D2502A0.24338773@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D257BB1.1B8AB2CC@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 05:57:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> It will not fit in your car and you must have someone
> deliver/carry/install it.

That's why I would have to buy it from a dealer that delivers, as
opposed to buying it from Wmart, which doesn't deliver afaik.  There's a
furniture and appliance store here that sells tv sets -- as in a regular
store that delivers.  I'm not sure what you mean about installing it,
though.  Is there something <odd> about these big tv sets?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 00:44:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23864
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 00:44:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F4B32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 7:00:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12746082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 07:00:17 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65B0HZ11301 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 07:00:17 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws88-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.88]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g65B0FQ11935;
          Fri, 5 Jul 2002 06:00:15 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020704224400.00b65840@mail.panax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D257C3B.76944A5A@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 06:00:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Bonniemae speaks
Comments: cc: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>        --bonniev, still nomail because of company sleeping in my computer room.

Oh dear.  Will she see our HBs today??

HB,BMDV!

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 00:46:30 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23878
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 00:46:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F4B41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 7:02:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12746129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 07:02:31 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65B2VZ20229 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 07:02:31 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws88-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.88]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g65B2TQ12129
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 06:02:29 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D25027C.FF5E3BF@maynor.net> <3D251001.47AE0A53@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D257CC1.74E34F6E@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 06:02:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> DVD players are replacing tape players rapidly. The cost is coming down.
> Getting a DVD player has nothing to do with getting a large TV.

Thank you.  That's what I was thinking -- that dvd is about vcr's, not
about tv's.  But I'm sure I have it stuck in my head that somebody said
something about waiting to buy a tv set because of some imminent change.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 00:50:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23886
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 00:50:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6D3C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 7:01:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12746194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 07:06:48 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65B6lZ20535 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 07:06:48 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws88-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.88]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g65B6jQ12618
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 06:06:45 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041932310.6776-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D24E58E.36ED54A2@maynor.net> <3D24EAB8.8010807@swbell.net>
            <3D24EEAA.1C2560B2@maynor.net> <3D2511CC.2060305@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D257DBD.45E8BE3A@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 06:06:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

>         Out of money you earned working for the state.  And the state

You sound like my RRB, who despises anybody who "feeds at the public
trough."  I don't consider earning money by working as taking money from
the taxpayers.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 01:01:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA23901
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 01:01:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F4B9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 7:17:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12746411 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 07:17:05 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65BH5Z21648 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 07:17:05 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws71-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.71]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g65BH2Q13556
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 06:17:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020705032650.86FCA7DE1@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D25802A.4366C11E@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 06:16:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Also, don't forget that DVDs only play DVDs--you can't record a movie
> that's playing on TV on them.

I'm not interested in getting a dvd player, especially if you can't even
record anything.  I rent movies every once in a while, but most tapes I
watch are tapes I've made from tv.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 01:02:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA23908
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 01:02:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6D411@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 7:13:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12746439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 07:18:44 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65BIiZ21757 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 07:18:44 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws71-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.71]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g65BIgQ13718
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 06:18:42 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D25027C.FF5E3BF@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020705000242.02314e40@mail.istori.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D25808E.9EAE6D00@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 06:18:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Kaminski wrote:

> from the specs, and J&R has it for "only" $2000. :)

I think I'm giving up this thought.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 03:16:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA25125
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 03:16:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F529A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 9:32:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12751859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 09:32:01 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65DW1Z05191 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:32:01 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYS004ZO2XDGD@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 05 Jul 2002 08:32:01 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041932310.6776-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D24E58E.36ED54A2@maynor.net> <3D24EAB8.8010807@swbell.net>
            <3D24EEAA.1C2560B2@maynor.net> <3D2511CC.2060305@swbell.net>
            <3D257DBD.45E8BE3A@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D259F79.1030208@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:30:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Chicago Help Needed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>        Out of money you earned working for the state.  And the state
>>
>
> You sound like my RRB, who despises anybody who "feeds at the public
> trough."  I don't consider earning money by working as taking money from
> the taxpayers.
>


You RRB almost certainly feeds at the public trough to a
greater degree than you do.


Nevertheless, it is all taxpayer money.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 03:39:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA25512
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 03:39:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6DFCA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 9:49:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12753164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 09:55:13 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65DtCZ08412 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:55:12 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust184.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.186]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003709756@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 09:55:12 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D25027C.FF5E3BF@maynor.net> <3D251001.47AE0A53@valstar.net>
            <20020705101342.B6165@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D25A419.A2F488F7@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:50:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:
>
> well, it kinda does, as if you get a wide screen tv, and a dvd
> player then you can watch the dvd's in wide screen mode.
>
What I meant was that time-wise, Natalie need not wait to get a big TV
because of DVDs. Her post indicated that she thought that she was to
wait on the TV _because of_ DVDs for some reason. Of course she will
want a DVD player. But she certainly can watch big-screen TV without
one.

alyce
--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 03:42:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA25520
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 03:42:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6E039@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 9:52:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12753325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 09:58:10 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65DwAZ08820 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:58:10 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust184.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.186]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005018109@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 09:58:09 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D25027C.FF5E3BF@maynor.net> <3D2502A0.24338773@valstar.net>
            <3D257BB1.1B8AB2CC@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D25A4C9.1E5A0A5@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:53:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
  I'm not sure what you mean about installing it,
> though.

Install = put in place. You will want to have the delivery people put it
where it is going to sit, I think, and not just have the delivery peope
put it at your door.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 03:50:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA25540
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 03:50:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000F54C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:06:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12753220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 10:06:23 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65DuNZ08540 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:56:23 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g65DuMOI007115 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:56:22 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207050954380.13352-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:56:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Bonniemae speaks
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020704224400.00b65840@mail.panax.com>

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, bonniev wrote:

>Yes, tomorrow is my 57th birthday.  If I live for another hour and 15
>minutes I will have outlived the Ouija board prediction and might survive
>into my 90s.  I did rather tempt fate by calling Karen during a
>thunderstorm which is still raging here in Unreal Maine.

Happy Birthday, Bonnie. And be careful. For the first 50 years of my
life, I was certain that I wuold be dead by the time I was 50. But one
morning I woke up and was 50 - that's really when it all started!

So you're nomail and will not get this - oh, well.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 03:53:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA25554
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 03:53:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F54EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:09:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12753919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 10:09:30 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65E9UZ10157 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:09:30 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust184.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.186]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003710011@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 10:09:23 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207050954380.13352-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D25A769.4F4D7146@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:04:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Bonniemae speaks
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Happy Birthday, Bonnie. I understand that you are no mail. But, just in
case you should happen to sneak in to see if we really care about you as
you enter your second half century, I want to tell you that I do.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 04:09:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA25645
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 04:09:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6E3FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:19:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12754530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 10:25:17 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65EPGZ12011 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:25:16 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g65EPG7Y055249 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002
          10:25:16 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000001c2242f$c8cb3a60$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:25:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F313NSAW4eE2FGwQ21j00005a29@hotmail.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marie Ascher
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 4:32 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: speaking of travel
>
>
> >From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
> >That could work. Sunday or Monday would be best for me, I think
> >(although I'm still waiting for some callbacks from business
> >associates).
>
> Oops -- weekend is no good. I think Monday would work though.
>
> (hi, alec!)
>
Hi, Marie,

Why did I get a hi? Am I special or just paranoid. I know I am both.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 04:15:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA25658
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 04:15:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F5662@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:30:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12754802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 10:30:57 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65EUvZ12775 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:30:57 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g65EUv7Y288368 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002
          10:30:57 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000101c22430$93d9a660$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:30:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: July 4th
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D23721E.355E7625@maynor.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 5:53 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: July 4th
>
>
> "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:
>
> > Happy Independence Day. My your fireworks be wonderful,
> your hotdog be
> > tasty and be surrounded by good friends.
>
> I'm visualizing a bunch of good friends closing in on a single hotdog.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>

I cooked many hotdogs and hamburgers and we enjoyed a wonderful local
fireworks show. The only slight problem is that temps were close to 100
and with %47 humidity, the heat index made it feel like 105-110.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 04:17:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA25671
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 04:17:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000F5687@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:33:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12754502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 10:33:51 -0400
Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [204.179.120.85]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65ENkZ11851 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:23:46 -0400
Received: from smtp-relay03.mac.com (smtp-relay03-en1 [10.13.10.222]) by
          smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id g65ENj6I023914 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 07:23:45 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from asmtp01.mac.com (asmtp01-qfe3 [10.13.10.65]) by
          smtp-relay03.mac.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/1.0) with ESMTP id g65ENeac029797
          for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 07:23:40 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [192.168.254.13] ([208.138.22.79]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape
          Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYS5BF00.E2I for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 07:23:39 -0700
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B94B1614.DC9B%peterlevy@mac.com>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:23:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Peter D. Levy" <peterlevy@MAC.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D257CC1.74E34F6E@maynor.net>

On 5/7/2002 6:02 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> DVD players are replacing tape players rapidly. The cost is coming down.
>> Getting a DVD player has nothing to do with getting a large TV.
>
> Thank you.  That's what I was thinking -- that dvd is about vcr's, not
> about tv's.  But I'm sure I have it stuck in my head that somebody said
> something about waiting to buy a tv set because of some imminent change.

Maybe HDTV (High Definition TV)? A couple of years ago there was some buzz
about it - I think some broadcasts are in HDTV, but the rate of adoption
seems to be slow and I don't know if I'd wait for it.

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 04:20:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA25678
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 04:20:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6E5F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:31:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12755032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 10:36:43 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g65EahZ13377 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002
          10:36:43 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JII00505; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:36:37 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JQP01377; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:36:35 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D25227B.29890.310FDB@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 04:37:15 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D257CC1.74E34F6E@maynor.net>

On 5 Jul 2002 at 6:02, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> But I'm sure I have it stuck in my head that somebody said
> something about waiting to buy a tv set because of some imminent
> change.

HDTV

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 06:06:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25915
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 06:06:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6F757@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:17:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12760942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:22:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65GMhZ28766 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:22:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 484D17D4D; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 09:22:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705162242.484D17D4D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:22:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: From the SF Daily Journal:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020705093038.A6165@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul 5,
              2002  9:30:38 am"

steph said:
> = >
> = > Ha!  It's busy!
> =
> = Well, it's not busy at this very moment. Damn! I'd love to talk to you.
> =
> = Karen
>
> I'll call some other time.  It was bedtime already when I
> called/posted.

I figured.:(

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 06:08:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25922
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 06:08:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6F77D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:18:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12760977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:23:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65GNxZ28860 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:23:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DB7A27EA4; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 09:23:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705162358.DB7A27EA4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:23:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D257CC1.74E34F6E@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 5,
              2002  6: 2:25 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Thank you.  That's what I was thinking -- that dvd is about vcr's, not
> about tv's.  But I'm sure I have it stuck in my head that somebody said
> something about waiting to buy a tv set because of some imminent change.

HDTV.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 06:09:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25926
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 06:09:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6F7C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:20:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12761080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:25:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65GPpZ29124 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:25:51 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A8A537EFE; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 09:25:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705162550.A8A537EFE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:25:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D25A4C9.1E5A0A5@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 5,
              2002  9:53:13 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Natalie Maynor wrote:
> >
>   I'm not sure what you mean about installing it,
> > though.
>
> Install = put in place. You will want to have the delivery people put it
> where it is going to sit, I think, and not just have the delivery peope
> put it at your door.

And she'll want to connect it to her stereo--which she probably can't
do at the moment.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 06:13:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25931
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 06:13:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6F84A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:23:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12761284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:29:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65GTEZ29681 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:29:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 355AA7C9F; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 09:28:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705162814.355AA7C9F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:28:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: July 4th
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000101c22430$93d9a660$48305b80@EAGLE72> from "Alec D. Plotkin"
              at "Jul 5, 2002 10:30:57 am"

Alec D. Plotkin said:
> I cooked many hotdogs and hamburgers and we enjoyed a wonderful local
> fireworks show. The only slight problem is that temps were close to 100
> and with %47 humidity, the heat index made it feel like 105-110.

Heehee! I enjoyed those phone calls from sweltering Easterners. It was
in the upper 80's here, and I had all the doors and windows open.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 06:15:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25943
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 06:15:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000F5E04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:31:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12761443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:31:11 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65GVBZ30128 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:31:11 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust156.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.158]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005020558@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:31:11 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D25C88D.A1210AC7@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:25:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      foreign accents
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://tinyurl.com/klc
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 06:18:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25952
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 06:18:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F5E32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:34:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12761576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:34:13 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65GYCZ30537 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:34:13 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust156.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.158]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005020593@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:34:12 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020705162814.355AA7C9F@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D25C943.5C06B9CB@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:28:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: July 4th
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Heehee! I enjoyed those phone calls from sweltering Easterners. It was
> in the upper 80's here, and I had all the doors and windows open.

The sweltering has ended. Now 75F with cool breezes. It is good that the
heat wave is over, as it is not easy breathing with such oppressive heat
plus humidity, and I was running out of steam.

alyce
>
> Karen


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 06:21:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25959
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 06:21:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6F99E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:31:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12761843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:37:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65Gb6Z31047 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:37:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4B61A7D73; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 09:37:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705163706.4B61A7D73@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:37:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: July 4th
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D25C943.5C06B9CB@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 5,
              2002 12:28:51 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > Heehee! I enjoyed those phone calls from sweltering Easterners. It was
> > in the upper 80's here, and I had all the doors and windows open.
>
> The sweltering has ended. Now 75F with cool breezes. It is good that the
> heat wave is over, as it is not easy breathing with such oppressive heat
> plus humidity, and I was running out of steam.

I know how hard it is to breathe when it's that hot--I'm sorry for
heeheeing. Today is another relatively cool day; so far it's only
80. This is the coolest summer we've had in some time, I understand.

Which is good, because I need to mow the lawns.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 06:24:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25969
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 06:24:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6FA26@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:35:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12762056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:40:35 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65GeZZ31502 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:40:35 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws169-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.169]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g65GeWQ29505
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:40:32 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207050954380.13352-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D25A769.4F4D7146@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D25CBFC.BA89AA61@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:40:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Bonniemae speaks
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:
>
> Happy Birthday, Bonnie. I understand that you are no mail. But, just in
> case you should happen to sneak in to see if we really care about you as
> you enter your second half century, I want to tell you that I do.

But she entered her second half century seven years ago, didn't she?
Was that when she went to SF for her bday?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 06:26:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25976
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 06:26:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6FA68@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:36:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12762150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:42:05 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65Gg5Z31696 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:42:05 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws169-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.169]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g65Gg3Q29803
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:42:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <B94B1614.DC9B%peterlevy@mac.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D25CC56.6018696@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:41:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Peter D. Levy" wrote:

> Maybe HDTV (High Definition TV)? A couple of years ago there was some buzz
> about it - I think some broadcasts are in HDTV, but the rate of adoption
> seems to be slow and I don't know if I'd wait for it.

Maybe.  I still think it might have been JMW who mentioned it.  Probably
it was last year when I moved into this house and noticed that the tv
set had shrunk.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 06:27:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25980
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 06:27:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6FA9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:38:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12762174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:43:41 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65GhfZ31785 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:43:41 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws169-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.169]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g65GhcQ00058
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:43:39 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000001c2242f$c8cb3a60$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D25CCB6.1CBD806F@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:43:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:

> > >From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
> > >That could work. Sunday or Monday would be best for me, I think
> > >(although I'm still waiting for some callbacks from business
> > >associates).
> >
> > Oops -- weekend is no good. I think Monday would work though.
> >
> > (hi, alec!)
> >
> Hi, Marie,
>
> Why did I get a hi? Am I special or just paranoid. I know I am both.

Presumably the same reason people like Bethany and me sometimes tell you
hi when we're doing the kind of communicating that Marie and Janet were
doing.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 06:28:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25984
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 06:28:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6FAAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:38:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12762199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:44:05 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65Gi5Z31836 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:44:05 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust156.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.158]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005020733@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:44:04 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207050954380.13352-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D25A769.4F4D7146@valstar.net> <3D25CBFC.BA89AA61@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D25CB92.9336A5B3@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:38:42 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Bonniemae speaks
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> But she entered her second half century seven years ago, didn't she?
> Was that when she went to SF for her bday?

Oh, probably yes. Time passes so swiftly. Also, I am totally senile.
Whatever.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 06:29:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25988
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 06:29:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6FAD7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:40:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12762277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:45:31 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65GjVZ32036 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:45:31 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust156.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.158]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003712589@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:45:31 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <B94B1614.DC9B%peterlevy@mac.com> <3D25CC56.6018696@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D25CBE5.6962D067@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:40:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Maybe.  I still think it might have been JMW who mentioned it.  Probably
> it was last year when I moved into this house and noticed that the tv
> set had shrunk.

For $27,000, you can get a large plasma-screen TV. Thin, you can hang it
on the wall.

alyce
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 06:30:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25997
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 06:30:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6FB01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:41:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12762336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:46:41 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65GkfZ32154 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:46:41 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws169-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.169]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g65GkdQ00492
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:46:39 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <B94B1614.DC9B%peterlevy@mac.com> <3D25CC56.6018696@maynor.net>
            <3D25CBE5.6962D067@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D25CD6B.1BD4D84A@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:46:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> For $27,000, you can get a large plasma-screen TV. Thin, you can hang it
> on the wall.

I don't have enough wall space.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 06:31:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26001
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 06:31:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6FB21@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:42:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12762378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:47:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65GlfZ32279 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:47:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 267F47DF4; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 09:47:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705164741.267F47DF4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:47:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D25CBE5.6962D067@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 5,
              2002 12:40: 5 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > Maybe.  I still think it might have been JMW who mentioned it.  Probably
> > it was last year when I moved into this house and noticed that the tv
> > set had shrunk.
>
> For $27,000, you can get a large plasma-screen TV. Thin, you can hang it
> on the wall.

I've seen them around $9000, I think. I lust after these.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 06:36:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26005
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 06:36:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6FBB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:47:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12762582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:52:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65GqoZ00483 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:52:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AA04B7D73; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 09:52:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705165249.AA04B7D73@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:52:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Sling Blade
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

For those of you who like this movie, why do you like it?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 06:42:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26013
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 06:42:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6FBEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:53:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12762700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 12:58:25 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65GwPZ00933 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:58:25 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g65GwO7Y187099 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002
          12:58:24 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000001c22445$2d78f3c0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:58:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel and unsending emails
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D25CCB6.1CBD806F@maynor.net>

>
> Presumably the same reason people like Bethany and me
> sometimes tell you
> hi when we're doing the kind of communicating that Marie and
> Janet were
> doing.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>

Yeah, it dawned on me after I hit the send key.
Anyone have days when wish you could unsend emails?

alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 06:46:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26032
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 06:46:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E6FC1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:56:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12762877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 13:02:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65H2CZ01540 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 13:02:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C37AF7FDC; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 10:02:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705170211.C37AF7FDC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:02:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel and unsending emails
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000001c22445$2d78f3c0$48305b80@EAGLE72> from "Alec D. Plotkin"
              at "Jul 5, 2002 12:58:25 pm"

Alec D. Plotkin said:
> >
> > Presumably the same reason people like Bethany and me
> > sometimes tell you
> > hi when we're doing the kind of communicating that Marie and
> > Janet were
> > doing.
> >
> > --
> >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
> >
>
> Yeah, it dawned on me after I hit the send key.
> Anyone have days when wish you could unsend emails?

I've probably had more than anyone.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 07:35:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26109
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 07:35:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E70107@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 13:45:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12765160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 13:50:57 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65HovZ07865 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 13:50:57 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust156.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.158]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005021704@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 13:50:57 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D25DB35.44F060DC@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 13:45:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      RIP Ted Williams
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

gone
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 07:54:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26130
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 07:54:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7031F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:05:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12766005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 14:10:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65IAeZ10081 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:10:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5611C7F96; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 11:10:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705181039.5611C7F96@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:10:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Last Batfest Post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D248E2D.15468.4DE5E02@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 4, 2002  6: 4:29 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 4 Jul 2002 at 20:48, Betty wrote:
>
> > Hey, he designed the shirt. What more do you want?
>
> I can't bear the thought that that angelic memory from days or yore might be
> supplanted by a more earthly reality. Besides, I'm a lousy conversationalist.

But I make up for that.

Bonnie told me that she didn't recognize my voice and that I sounded
YOUNG. I don't know what that means, exactly, but I am hoping it's
good.

I think I have to go look for a new fan today. My current fan keeps
stopping by itself and starting up by itself.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 07:56:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26137
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 07:56:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7034B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:06:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12766020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 14:11:55 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65IBsZ10141 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:11:55 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0295B7F96; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 11:11:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705181153.0295B7F96@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:11:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Last Batfest Post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020704204836.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 4, 2002  8:48:56 pm"

Betty said:
> At 08:34 PM 7/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Betty said:
> > > At 08:21 PM 7/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >I'm getting ready to go to bed, but I wanted to thank everyone who
> > > >made this a very special Fest Day for me.
> > >
> > > Nite, Karen.  You don't even have to clean up after us.
> >
> >No, that's a definite advantage.:)
> >
> >I even ate fresh pineapple today, in honor of Mem, who didn't even
> >bother to phone me...
>
> Hey, he designed the shirt. What more do you want?

A phone call.:)

I loved Batfest, and I hope you all had as good a time as I did. I
feel Bathed In Love.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 08:05:31 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26150
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 08:05:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F64DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:21:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12766255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 14:21:21 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65ILLZ11068 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:21:21 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-32.panax.com
          [65.114.190.32]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g65ILKj01468 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:21:20
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207050954380.13352-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D25A769.4F4D7146@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020705141800.00b37c78@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:18:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bonniemae speaks
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D25CBFC.BA89AA61@maynor.net>

At 11:40 AM 7/5/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>But she entered her second half century seven years ago, didn't she?
>Was that when she went to SF for her bday?
>
>--
>  -- Natalie

yes.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 08:15:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26165
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 08:15:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E70523@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:25:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12766677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 14:31:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65IVDZ12467 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:31:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E2AA57DEC; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 11:31:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705183112.E2AA57DEC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:31:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bonniemae speaks
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020705141800.00b37c78@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 5, 2002  2:18:17 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> >But she entered her second half century seven years ago, didn't she?
> >Was that when she went to SF for her bday?
> >
> >--
> >  -- Natalie
>
> yes.

I take it she survived the night? What's she doing to celebrate?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 08:16:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26169
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 08:16:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7053A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:26:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12766695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 14:32:00 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65IW0Z12504 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:32:00 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g65IVx710823
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:31:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207050954380.13352-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D25A769.4F4D7146@valstar.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020705141800.00b37c78@mail.panax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D25E7AD.6CC188B5@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:38:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Bonniemae speaks
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:
>
> At 11:40 AM 7/5/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >But she entered her second half century seven years ago, didn't she?
> >Was that when she went to SF for her bday?
> >
> >--
> >  -- Natalie
>
> yes.

And we met up with Janet and Karen at the Cliff House.  I think Karen
was job hunting then, too, as I recall.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 08:19:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26185
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 08:19:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E70584@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:29:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12766824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 14:34:58 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65IYwZ12842 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:34:58 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6087D7E70; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 11:34:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705183457.6087D7E70@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:34:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bonniemae speaks
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D25E7AD.6CC188B5@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 5,
              2002 11:38:37 am"

Betty said:
> And we met up with Janet and Karen at the Cliff House.  I think Karen
> was job hunting then, too, as I recall.

Yes, I was. I was looking for my first-ever writing job, which I got
some five months later, as I recall.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 08:50:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26229
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 08:50:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E708CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:01:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12768105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 15:06:36 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65J6aZ16494 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:06:36 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-32.panax.com
          [65.114.190.32]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g65J6Zj07113 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:06:35
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020705141800.00b37c78@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020705150015.00b29ac8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:06:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bonniemae speaks
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020705183112.E2AA57DEC@yellow.rahul.net>

At 11:31 AM 7/5/2002 -0700, karen wrote:

>I take it she survived the night? What's she doing to celebrate?

Oh yes.  We celebrated her birthday and the cooler weather by going to Cafe
This Way (home of the steak bomb omelet) for breakfast, then caught the
shuttle to Northeast Harbor, where we took a quick tour of the azalea
gardens (not much blooming anymore, but still lovely), then hiked the
Asticou Trail to Jordan Pond and caught the shuttle home.  Now, she and
Holly are off to Manset, near Southeast Harbor, to a plant
nursery.  Tonight after cocktail hour we will go to Mache Bistro for
dinner.  Tomorrow the itinerary includes wandering the quiet side of the
island, doing a very short hike to a great overlook, and, if the wind
cooperates, some kayaking in the afternoon.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 09:18:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26289
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 09:18:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E70BB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:29:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12769267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 15:34:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65JYYZ19755 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:34:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E845F7EF1; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 12:34:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705193433.E845F7EF1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:34:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bonniemae speaks
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020705150015.00b29ac8@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 5, 2002  3: 6:26 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> Oh yes.  We celebrated her birthday and the cooler weather by going to Cafe
> This Way (home of the steak bomb omelet) for breakfast, then caught

What is the steak bomb omelet?

> Holly are off to Manset, near Southeast Harbor, to a plant
> nursery.

The nurseries here are having big sales--they need to get rid of the
potted plants because they won't survive the summer.

> Tonight after cocktail hour we will go to Mache Bistro for
> dinner.

Yum!

I feel like I know the restaurants there better than the ones here,
any more...

> Tomorrow the itinerary includes wandering the quiet side of the
> island, doing a very short hike to a great overlook, and, if the wind
> cooperates, some kayaking in the afternoon.

Cool! Sounds lovely. Better than bailing out the mosquito farm of a boat.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 09:27:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26297
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 09:27:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F69F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:43:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12769705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 15:43:39 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65JhdZ20942 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:43:39 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-32.panax.com
          [65.114.190.32]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g65Jhcj11705 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:43:38
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020705150015.00b29ac8@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020705153532.00b54698@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:43:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bonniemae speaks
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020705193433.E845F7EF1@yellow.rahul.net>

At 12:34 PM 7/5/2002 -0700, karen wrote:

>What is the steak bomb omelet?

Grilled strips of steak (tenderloin); cheddar cheese; onions;
mushrooms.  Served with home fries.  It's my favorite.

>The nurseries here are having big sales--they need to get rid of the
>potted plants because they won't survive the summer.

Holly is an avid and accomplished gardener; she specializes in
wildflowers.  In addition to more conventional gardening, she reclaimed and
landscaped a steep bank area on their property after it "slid."   She is
helping Bonnie with perennials for the area on the north side of our house
that we sort of reclaimed this year (it basically was dirt and woodpile).

>Cool! Sounds lovely. Better than bailing out the mosquito farm of a boat.

Indeed.  Not much in the way of mosquitoes here---and the blackflies are
done for the year.  There were lots of mosquitoes on Monhegan Island.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 10:25:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26396
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 10:25:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F6CF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 16:41:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12772080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 16:41:14 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65Kf8Z27255 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 16:41:14 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.32]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYSMQP01.3M0 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 13:40:01 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020705165249.AA04B7D73@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D260451.B5EFD36@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 13:40:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Sling Blade
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> For those of you who like this movie, why do you like it?

    Oh, the atmosphere, the writing, the acting, the plot, and watching
Dwight Yoakum play a total asshole.  Oh, and the concept of a State Home
for the Nervous.  IMO, Thornton jumped the shark in his first outing.
Haven't been able to abide him since.

John "Uh-huh." W.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 10:33:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26423
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 10:33:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F6D54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 16:49:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12772371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 16:49:21 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65KnFZ27991 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 16:49:20 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.32]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYSN4801.1MF for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 13:48:08 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <B94B1614.DC9B%peterlevy@mac.com> <3D25CC56.6018696@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D260641.3315DEE0@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 13:49:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> "Peter D. Levy" wrote:
>
> > Maybe HDTV (High Definition TV)? A couple of years ago there was some buzz
> > about it - I think some broadcasts are in HDTV, but the rate of adoption
> > seems to be slow and I don't know if I'd wait for it.
>
> Maybe.  I still think it might have been JMW who mentioned it.

    Yep.  Go ahead and buy one if you like, but keep in mind that you'll be
replacing it in a few years.
    I noticed this week that DVD players have hit my cutoff price of $90 plus
tax so I may have to spring for one.  <sigh>  And here I am sitting on perfectly
good Go-Video dual VHS deck.  8-/

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 10:36:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26430
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 10:36:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E71420@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 16:47:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12772605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 16:52:39 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65KqXZ28469 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 16:52:38 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.32]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYSN9Q00.8OT for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 13:51:26 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020704224929.622257CEA@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D260707.8A141A7C@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 13:52:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Ithaca didn't have its own NPR station. It only had
> a.... whatchamacallit. A retransmitter. A mirror? I'm confusing web
> and radios.

    I always thought they were repeaters but KJZZ ("A division of Rio Salado
Community College") calls them translators.

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 11:47:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26575
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 11:47:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E71CF6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 17:57:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12776436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 18:02:58 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65M2vZ03306 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:02:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E454B7E85; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 15:02:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705220256.E454B7E85@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:02:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: private univ?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D260707.8A141A7C@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at
              "Jul 5, 2002  1:52:23 pm"

John Williams said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Ithaca didn't have its own NPR station. It only had
> > a.... whatchamacallit. A retransmitter. A mirror? I'm confusing web
> > and radios.
>
>     I always thought they were repeaters but KJZZ ("A division of Rio Salado
> Community College") calls them translators.

Yes, translator. My aging brain thanks you.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 11:49:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26587
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 11:49:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000F71B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:05:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12776486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 18:05:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65M5OZ03474 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:05:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 919F67CA9; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 15:05:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705220520.919F67CA9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:05:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sling Blade
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D260451.B5EFD36@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at
              "Jul 5, 2002  1:40:50 pm"

John Williams said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > For those of you who like this movie, why do you like it?
>
>     Oh, the atmosphere, the writing, the acting, the plot, and watching
> Dwight Yoakum play a total asshole.  Oh, and the concept of a State Home
> for the Nervous.  IMO, Thornton jumped the shark in his first outing.
> Haven't been able to abide him since.

I forgot that was Dwight Yoakum.

I hated the plot--I hated the ending, in particular. Most of it was
okay, if veeeeeeerrrrrryyyyy sssssllloooowwww.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:10:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26628
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 12:10:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E72130@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:20:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12777065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 18:25:55 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65MPtZ05064 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:25:55 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws135-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.135]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g65MPqQ00022
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 17:25:53 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <B94B1614.DC9B%peterlevy@mac.com> <3D25CC56.6018696@maynor.net>
            <3D260641.3315DEE0@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D261CEC.1D710432@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 17:25:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

John Williams wrote:

> > Maybe.  I still think it might have been JMW who mentioned it.
>
>     Yep.  Go ahead and buy one if you like, but keep in mind that you'll be
> replacing it in a few years.

I'm out of the mood now.

>     I noticed this week that DVD players have hit my cutoff price of $90 plus
> tax so I may have to spring for one.  <sigh>  And here I am sitting on perfectly
> good Go-Video dual VHS deck.  8-/

VHS will still be around for a good while, won't it?  And there will be
people even later who can take VHS tapes and change them to DVD?  I'm
thinking now of some tapes that are important in my life, like the
Beethoven part of the opening ceremony at the Nagano Winter Olympics and
like the home movies that I got turned into videotapes.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:20:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26648
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 12:20:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E722D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:30:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12777307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 18:35:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65MZmZ05828 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:35:48 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EB7E77EA1; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 15:35:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705223547.EB7E77EA1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:35:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D261CEC.1D710432@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 5,
              2002  5:25:48 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> VHS will still be around for a good while, won't it?

Yes.

> And there will be
> people even later who can take VHS tapes and change them to DVD?

Yes.

DVD players are dirt cheap these days. Their chief advantage is that
you get to see all the extra tracks on the DVD, as opposed to the
tape. Also, you can often see Japanese movies in Japanese, if you
want. Sometimes, you can choose French.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:24:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26655
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 12:24:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E723A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:34:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12777414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 18:39:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65MduZ06174 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:39:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A05FD7F76; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 15:39:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020705223955.A05FD7F76@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:39:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bonniemae speaks
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020705153532.00b54698@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 5, 2002  3:43:34 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> At 12:34 PM 7/5/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
>
> >What is the steak bomb omelet?
>
> Grilled strips of steak (tenderloin); cheddar cheese; onions;
> mushrooms.  Served with home fries.  It's my favorite.

That does sound good.

> >Cool! Sounds lovely. Better than bailing out the mosquito farm of a boat.
>
> Indeed.  Not much in the way of mosquitoes here---and the blackflies are
> done for the year.  There were lots of mosquitoes on Monhegan Island.

Well, I have a lot of mosquitoes and a lot of other beetles and flies
inside my house. I have so many bites on my legs that I look like I
have chicken pox.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 13:29:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26729
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 13:29:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E73F6B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:39:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12779125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 19:45:18 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65NjIZ11624 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:45:18 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.25]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYSV9T00.MPF for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 16:44:17 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020705223547.EB7E77EA1@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D262F7C.EDB94769@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 16:45:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Natalie Maynor said:
> > VHS will still be around for a good while, won't it?
>
> Yes.
>
> > And there will be
> > people even later who can take VHS tapes and change them to DVD?
>
> Yes.

    Heck, you can even do it yourself.  Just go down and buy a Phillips
deck, although the wisdom of spending that much money to convert a fuzzy
VHS to an incredibly sharp fuzzy DVD evades me.
    (It just accurred to me that Manse Dreare is a museum of recording
technology, redeemed somewhat by having the technology to enable a buddy
of mine to re-record his now-grown children's first utturances captured
on 8-track.  And now I have some RCA Victrola shellac 78s.  If I could
just get ahold of the woman I used to know who collected Edison
cylinders I could open a museum.  Still need a reel-to-reel, though.  I
wonder if my cousin still has his player/interpretive pianos?

JMW)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 13:33:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26741
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 13:33:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E74119@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:43:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12779203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 19:48:54 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65NmsZ11854 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:48:54 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws139-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.139]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g65NmqQ11303
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:48:52 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020705223547.EB7E77EA1@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D263060.B1DDB3CD@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:48:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> DVD players are dirt cheap these days. Their chief advantage is that
> you get to see all the extra tracks on the DVD, as opposed to the
> tape. Also, you can often see Japanese movies in Japanese, if you
> want. Sometimes, you can choose French.

I don't understand.  I have tapes of Japanese movies in Japanese and
French movies in French.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 13:56:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26761
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 13:56:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E74A63@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 20:06:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12779671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 20:11:55 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g660BtZ13613 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002
          20:11:55 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JJA01085; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 20:11:50 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JRH03433; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 20:11:49 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D25A8D4.11370.F1A826@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:10:28 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D261CEC.1D710432@maynor.net>

On 5 Jul 2002 at 17:25, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> VHS will still be around for a good while, won't it?

http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/ptech/06/25/dvd.vhs/index.html

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 15:12:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26838
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 15:12:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E74DDA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 21:22:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12781017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 21:27:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g661RwZ18118 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 21:27:58 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B993F7FFF; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 18:27:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020706012757.B993F7FFF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:27:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D263060.B1DDB3CD@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 5,
              2002  6:48:48 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > DVD players are dirt cheap these days. Their chief advantage is that
> > you get to see all the extra tracks on the DVD, as opposed to the
> > tape. Also, you can often see Japanese movies in Japanese, if you
> > want. Sometimes, you can choose French.
>
> I don't understand.  I have tapes of Japanese movies in Japanese and
> French movies in French.

But DVDs allow you to choose a variety of languages from one DVD. So
you can buy one DVD, but sometimes watch it in English, sometimes in
Japanese, and sometimes in French.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 15:12:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26845
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 15:12:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E74DDB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 21:22:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12781021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 21:28:13 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g661SDZ18143 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 21:28:13 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-21.panax.com [63.163.41.21])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g661SCj21392 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 21:28:12 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020705153532.00b54698@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020705212618.00b54698@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 21:27:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bonniemae speaks
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020705223955.A05FD7F76@yellow.rahul.net>

At 03:39 PM 7/5/2002 -0700, karen wrote:

>Well, I have a lot of mosquitoes and a lot of other beetles and flies
>inside my house. I have so many bites on my legs that I look like I
>have chicken pox.

If the bites are really bothering you, try the Benadryl "Itch
Sticks."  They work---even on blackfly bites.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 15:15:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26857
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 15:15:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E74DF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 21:25:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12781139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 21:31:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g661V4Z18408 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 21:31:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CE2A27D9F; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 18:31:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020706013100.CE2A27D9F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:31:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bonniemae speaks
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020705212618.00b54698@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 5, 2002  9:27:52 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> At 03:39 PM 7/5/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
> >Well, I have a lot of mosquitoes and a lot of other beetles and flies
> >inside my house. I have so many bites on my legs that I look like I
> >have chicken pox.
>
> If the bites are really bothering you, try the Benadryl "Itch
> Sticks."  They work---even on blackfly bites.

Oh, they generally don't bother me at all. If one itches a lot for
some reason, I paint it with liquid bandaid, and that seems to
work. (That lasts for a couple of days and I rarely have to mess with
the same bite twice.)

Karen
munching on hamburgers cooked outside--yum!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 15:33:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26874
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 15:33:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E74E61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 21:43:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12781422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 21:48:47 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g661mlZ19329 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 21:48:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws93-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.93]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g661mjQ27747
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 20:48:45 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706012757.B993F7FFF@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D264C79.AA92ED7B@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 20:48:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > I don't understand.  I have tapes of Japanese movies in Japanese and
> > French movies in French.
>
> But DVDs allow you to choose a variety of languages from one DVD. So
> you can buy one DVD, but sometimes watch it in English, sometimes in
> Japanese, and sometimes in French.

Why would I want to buy a DVD?  I've seen videotapes for sale in stores,
of course, but have wondered who buys them and why.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 15:44:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26881
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 15:44:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E74EBB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 21:54:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12781585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 22:00:03 -0400
Received: from mail.yss4.com (mail.yss4.com [206.253.208.224]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66203Z20022 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 22:00:03 -0400
Received: from macxserv01 (macxserv01.gginternal.com [192.168.5.104]) by
          mail.yss4.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D0A1426B3 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri,  5 Jul 2002 18:59:40 -0700 (PDT)
received: by Apple.Mailer (2.WOF4.0 Mail Sending Utility)
Message-ID:  <20020706015940.9D0A1426B3@mail.yss4.com>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:59:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Feed an Animal in Need -- Today and Every Day!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Over ten million animals are abused, neglected or abandoned yearly. Over
27,000 defenseless animals are being harmed or dying every day! Visit The
Animal Rescue Site (http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/home) every day to
give a bowl of food -- at no cost to you -- and participate in the fight to
save animals in need.

Funding to purchase a bowl of food, paid for by site sponsors, is
generated when you click on the "Feed an Animal in Need" button on the
homepage of The Animal Rescue Site. In 2002, with your help, we hope to
give over five million bowls of food to animals living in humane shelters
or sanctuaries.

Please make visiting The Animal Rescue Site part of your daily routine and
help spread the word to your friends and family!

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com



A person identifying him- or herself as the sender above has sent this
email to you to inform you about The Animal Rescue Site. This service is
provided by The Animal Rescue Site as a mechanism for friends to tell other
friends about our philanthropic-based sites, and should not be used for
any other purposes.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 16:10:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26918
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 16:10:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E74FD7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 22:21:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12782255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 22:26:25 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g662QPZ21649 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 22:26:25 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020706022620.CVEZ903.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 02:26:20 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGEEAPFPAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 22:28:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Happy birthday, Bonnie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Happy birthday! We'll have to toast to your longetivity at the next
SnowBash. :D

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 16:15:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26937
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 16:15:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E74FEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 22:26:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12782331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 22:31:33 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g662VXZ21945 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 22:31:33 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020706023128.CYGC903.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 02:31:28 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEAPFPAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 22:33:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D25CBE5.6962D067@valstar.net>

> For $27,000, you can get a large plasma-screen TV. Thin, you can hang it
> on the wall.

They're way cheaper than that, yet are still outrageous. I saw a Philips, I
think, at Costco for a mere $5,000. I couldn't imagine having enough money
to spend it on something like that.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 16:20:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26946
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 16:20:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7500D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 22:30:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12782435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 22:35:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g662ZrZ22257 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 22:35:54 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B50487DAD; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 19:35:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020706023552.B50487DAD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:35:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D264C79.AA92ED7B@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 5,
              2002  8:48:41 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > I don't understand.  I have tapes of Japanese movies in Japanese and
> > > French movies in French.
> >
> > But DVDs allow you to choose a variety of languages from one DVD. So
> > you can buy one DVD, but sometimes watch it in English, sometimes in
> > Japanese, and sometimes in French.
>
> Why would I want to buy a DVD?  I've seen videotapes for sale in stores,
> of course, but have wondered who buys them and why.

Never mind.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 16:38:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26961
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 16:38:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E751B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 22:48:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12783599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 22:54:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g662s0Z23902 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 22:54:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 754198029; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 19:53:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020706025359.754198029@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:53:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D262F7C.EDB94769@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at
              "Jul 5, 2002  4:45: 1 pm"

John Williams said:
>     Heck, you can even do it yourself.  Just go down and buy a Phillips
> deck, although the wisdom of spending that much money to convert a fuzzy
> VHS to an incredibly sharp fuzzy DVD evades me.

They'll come down like CD burners did.

>     (It just accurred to me that Manse Dreare is a museum of recording
> technology, redeemed somewhat by having the technology to enable a buddy
> of mine to re-record his now-grown children's first utturances captured
> on 8-track.  And now I have some RCA Victrola shellac 78s.  If I could
> just get ahold of the woman I used to know who collected Edison
> cylinders I could open a museum.  Still need a reel-to-reel, though.  I
> wonder if my cousin still has his player/interpretive pianos?

I think finding a reel-to-reel is much easier than finding Edison
cylinders or player pianos. (There is an electric player piano at the
Fry's in Austin.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 16:41:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26968
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 16:41:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E751FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 22:51:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12783811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 22:56:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g662uiZ24100 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 22:56:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D9F567E0B; Fri,  5
          Jul 2002 19:56:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020706025643.D9F567E0B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:56:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Squash?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

What is tatuma squash and how do you cook it? I swear I've never seen
it before, but it seems to be everywhere right now.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 17:09:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27075
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 17:09:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F83B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:25:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12788085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 23:25:29 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g663PTZ27626 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:25:29 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust7.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.9]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003720968@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 23:25:29 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020705223547.EB7E77EA1@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D262F7C.EDB94769@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D26639A.A03A730F@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:27:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

John Williams wrote:
>   And now I have some RCA Victrola shellac 78s.

I have lots of those, and a wind[up Victrola on which to play them.

> Still need a reel-to-reel, though.

Have one of those, too.

Fully equipped in Germantown

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 17:11:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27082
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 17:11:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E758B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:22:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12788112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 23:27:34 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g663RYZ27760 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:27:34 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust7.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.9]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003720992@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 23:27:33 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020705223547.EB7E77EA1@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D263060.B1DDB3CD@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D266416.6F33E42E@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:29:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
> I don't understand.  I have tapes of Japanese movies in Japanese and
> French movies in French.

On DVDs, you often can make the choice to watch in other languages. I
mean, you can watch in English, or push the button and watch the same
movie in French, or Spanish, or German. Whatever. That is not on all
DVDs, but on several.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 17:15:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27097
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 17:15:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000F83E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:30:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12788168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 23:30:41 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g663UfZ27978 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:30:41 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust7.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.9]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005029073@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 23:30:39 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706012757.B993F7FFF@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D264C79.AA92ED7B@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2664D0.705E7BBC@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:32:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
> Why would I want to buy a DVD?  I've seen videotapes for sale in stores,
> of course, but have wondered who buys them and why.

You might want to rent a DVD to play on your DVD player, if you had one.
I am finding that there are a lot of things on DVDs that I never even
knew about on VHS. Older things, foreign things.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 17:20:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27106
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 17:20:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7595F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:30:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12788094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Jul
          2002 23:36:00 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g663Q0Z27651 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:26:00 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g663PxOI021523;
          Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:25:59 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207052320240.21426-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:25:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      The Guadalupe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The Guadalupe river is doing a number on Texans! I've known this for
several days, but it took one word today to being it home. Seguin. Seguin,
TX. It's not an extremely important town, as towns go. But I know it and
when I heard that it was flooded, I was suddenly transported back to those
acres that I never before thought of as flood plains there in central
Texas.

I've been in Houston floods - one so bad that I had to abandon my car and
walk through waist-deep water.

The Guadalupe is the first river I swam in. It's the first river I saw
used for baptisms. I have a childhood memory of spending an entire day in
that river. When I lay down to go to sleep that night, I continued to feel
the rhythms of the river as I drifted off, floating, floating, moved by
waves.

Maybe I should retire to Texas, really BE a Texan one more time in this
life.

Bethany

From KevinMitchellson@yahoo.com Mon May 30 17:42:36 1960
Received: from hiscoweb.hisco.co.kr ([210.115.9.107])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA27142
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 30 May 1960 17:42:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from smtp0462.mail.yahoo.com (unverified [66.148.133.66]) by hiscoweb.hisco.co.kr
 (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <B0030895219@hiscoweb.hisco.co.kr>;
 Sat, 06 Jul 2002 12:16:54 +0900
Message-ID: <B0030895219@hiscoweb.hisco.co.kr>
Reply-To: KevinMitchellson@yahoo.com
From: KevinMitchellson371812@yahoo.com
To: jmac@gtnet.com
CC: rbrame@gto.com, raghugk@gto.net, rssalim@gto.net.com, binmajid@gto.net.om,
        al_di@gto.net.om, bella@gto.net.om, asiftrd@gto.net.om,
        words-l@gtoal.com, wilson.edc@gtp.net, rcrobert@gtp23.bechtel.com,
        tpendleton@gtpd.com
Subject: discounted mortgage broker 371812976
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 20:16:49 -0700

<html>

<body>

<table width="715">
  <tr>
    <td vAlign="top" align="left" width="511">
      <blockquote>
        <font color="navy" size="4"><font face="arial" color="red" size="3"><b><i>&quot;Now
        is the time to take advantage of falling interest rates! There is no
        advantage in waiting any longer.&quot;</i></b><br>
        <br>
        </font><font size="3">Refinance or consolidate high interest credit card
        debt into a low interest mortgage. Mortgage interest is tax deductible,
        whereas credit card interest is not.<br>
        <br>
        You can save thousands of dollars over the course of your loan with just
        a 0.25% drop in your rate!<br>
        <br>
        Our nationwide network of lenders have hundreds of different loan
        programs to fit your current situation:
        <blockquote>
          <font color="red"><b>
          <ul>
            <li>Refinance
            <li>Second Mortgage
            <li>Debt Consolidation
            <li>Home Improvement
            <li>Purchase</li>
          </ul>
          </b>
          </blockquote>
        </font>
        <p align="center"><font size="4">Let
        us do the shopping for you...<a href=" http://www.lowest-rate.net/cgi-bin/best_rate_virtual.cgi?affiliate=510511">IT IS FREE!<br>
        CLICK HERE&quot;</a></font></p>
        <br>
        <b>Please<a href=" http://www.lowest-rate.net/cgi-bin/best_rate_virtual.cgi?affiliate=510511">
        CLICK HERE </a> to fill out a quick form. Your request will be
        transmitted to our network of mortgage specialists who will respond with
        up to three independent offers.</b><br>
        <br>
        <b>This service is 100% free to home owners and new home buyers without
        any obligation.</b></font></font>
        <p><font size="3" color="navy"><b>Visit the website to be taken out of this database.</a></b></font></p>
      </blockquote>
    </td>
    <td vAlign="top" align="right" width="190"><br>
      <br>
      <basefont size="2">
      <table width="175" bgColor="#eeeeee">
        <tbody>
          <tr>
            <td align="middle" colSpan="2">National Averages</td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td width="91"><u>Program</u></td>
            <td><u>Rate</u></td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td width="91">30Year Fixed</td>
            <td width="42">6.375%</td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td width="91">15Year Fixed</td>
            <td width="42">5.750%</td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td width="91">5Year Balloon</td>
            <td width="42">5.250%</td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td width="91">1/1Arm</td>
            <td width="42">4.250%</td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td width="91">5/1Arm</td>
            <td width="42">5.625%</td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td width="91"><font size="-2">FHA30 Year Fixed</font></td>
            <td width="42">6.500%</td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td width="91">VA 30 Year Fixed</td>
            <td width="42">6.500%</td>
          </tr>
        </tbody>
      </table>
      <br>
      <font size="2">
      <p align="right">&quot;<i>You did all the shopping for me. Thank you!</i><br>
      <b>-<font size="1">T</font></font><font size="1">.<font size="2"> N. Cap.</font></font><font size="2">
      <font size="1">CA</font></font></b>
      <p align="right">&quot;<i>..You helped me finance a new home and I got a
      very good deal.</i><br>
      <b>-<font size="1"> R. H. H. CA</font></b><br>
      <p align="right">&quot;<i>..it was easy, and quick...!</i><br>
      <b>-<font size="1">V. S. N. P. WA</font></b><br>
      <br>
      </p>
      </td>
    </table>

  </body>

</html>

371812976

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 18:13:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA27180
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 18:13:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E75E30@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 0:23:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12791945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 00:28:51 -0400
Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com (imo-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.164]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g664SpZ01494 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 00:28:51 -0400
Received: from TheodoraMG@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.b6.e07daeb (16635) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002
          00:28:42 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46
Message-ID:  <b6.e07daeb.2a57cbfa@aol.com>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 00:28:42 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Theodora Groothof <TheodoraMG@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bonniemae speaks
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

.

****HUGZ**** Theo

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 18:27:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA27204
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 18:27:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E760A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 0:37:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12792096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 00:42:36 -0400
Received: from mail8.wlv.netzero.net (mail8.wlv.netzero.net [209.247.163.58])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g664gZZ02350 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 00:42:35 -0400
Received: (qmail 513 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2002 04:42:28 -0000
Received: from 1cust154.tnt1.lexington.ky.da.uu.net (HELO computer)
          (65.238.38.154) by mail8.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 6 Jul 2002
          04:42:28 -0000
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000301c224a9$eee73d00$9a26ee41@computer>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 00:59:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Brad Grissom <bogris01@NETZERO.NET>
Subject:      Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

My sister Kay is here visiting and we are having a bang-up time.
Tonight we watched -An Officer and a Gentleman- on the electric
teevee.  We couldn't figure out what the term "D.O.R." stands
for.   It's when the naval officer candidates voluntarily ask to
be relieved.  I don't have web search capability right now
(something Kay chides me for, as she should), so I am posing the
question to the googlers on the list.  Kay will post to the list
in the next day or two.  She has been inspired by my tales of
Natalie's retirement, since they are almost exactly the same age,
but she will probably have to teach another year at least.

brad


-------------------------------------------
Introducing NetZero Long Distance
Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month!
Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 19:57:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA27303
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 19:57:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E76A2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 2:07:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12795110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 02:13:00 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g666CxZ10352 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 02:13:00 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020706061254.THHF29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:12:54 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020705225402.01f987f0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:09:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000301c224a9$eee73d00$9a26ee41@computer>

Brad Grissom writes,

>teevee.  We couldn't figure out what the term "D.O.R." stands
>for.   It's when the naval officer candidates voluntarily ask to
>be relieved.

"Dropped On Request"

Glossary: <http://navyprep.net/glossary.html>

In context: <http://home.austin.rr.com/johnbob/the_real_story.html>

It's even a trivia question answer for the movie (found it after I knew the
answer :-) : <http://www.geocities.com/moviemumblings/games3ans.htm>

Funny, in Air Force-ese, "DOR" is "Date Of Rank":
<http://www.losangeles.af.mil/ABG/MSS/FSC/acronyms.htm>,
<http://www.afpc.randolph.af.mil/offprom/updated%20DOR%20chart.htm>.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 21:57:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA27418
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 30 May 1960 21:57:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7776B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 4:07:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12797117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 04:12:43 -0400
Received: from mail8.wlv.netzero.net (mail8.wlv.netzero.net [209.247.163.58])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g668ChZ18930 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 04:12:43 -0400
Received: (qmail 12791 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2002 08:12:36 -0000
Received: from 1cust33.tnt1.lexington.ky.da.uu.net (HELO computer)
          (65.238.38.33) by mail8.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 6 Jul 2002
          08:12:36 -0000
References:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020705225402.01f987f0@mail.istori.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000301c224c7$45860ca0$2126ee41@computer>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 04:29:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bogris01 <bogris01@NETZERO.NET>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> >teevee.  We couldn't figure out what the term "D.O.R." stands
> >for.   It's when the naval officer candidates voluntarily ask
to
> >be relieved.
>
> "Dropped On Request"

Thank you, Commander Kaminski!  Admiral Farrell sent me an
intuitive answer that was very close to your official one.  I
can't wait to tell Kay in the morning.  We both enjoyed reseeing
the movie.  The final scenes were especially nice.  When Gunnery
Sergeant Lou Gosset salutes his newly-minted ensigns, Richard
Gere tells him "I couldn't have made it without you", and the
drill instructor tells him to "get the hell out of here".  I had
remembered something a little sappier.  Then, as Gere leaves on
his motorcycle, he pauses to watch Gosset haranguing the newest
candidate class, and it's the same script he had to endure!  A
good movie.

brad





-------------------------------------------
Introducing NetZero Long Distance
Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month!
Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 01:29:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27643
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 01:29:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E78706@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 7:39:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12776919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 07:45:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66Bj1Z30668 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 07:45:01 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws50-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.50]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66BixQ05680
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:44:59 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706025359.754198029@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D26D800.C7A7B603@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:44:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I think finding a reel-to-reel is much easier than finding Edison
> cylinders or player pianos. (There is an electric player piano at the

There was a wonderful player piano for sale not long ago in a junk store
here.  It lasted a month or two before being sold.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 01:35:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27655
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 01:35:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7870E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 7:45:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12776936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 07:50:37 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66BobZ30920 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 07:50:37 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws50-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.50]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66BoYQ06216
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:50:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706012757.B993F7FFF@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D264C79.AA92ED7B@maynor.net> <3D2664D0.705E7BBC@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D26D986.A1E9D90@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:50:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> > Why would I want to buy a DVD?  I've seen videotapes for sale in stores,
> > of course, but have wondered who buys them and why.
>
> You might want to rent a DVD to play on your DVD player, if you had one.
> I am finding that there are a lot of things on DVDs that I never even
> knew about on VHS. Older things, foreign things.

Thanks for an answer.  I started to reply to Karen's non-answer but
didn't bother.  Responses like "never mind" are frustrating if you
really do want an answer to a question.  I do understand why I might
want to rent a dvd (which I suppose means that your answer isn't really
to my question, but it's still an answer).  I just don't understand why
people buy tapes -- or at least tapes of things like movies -- I can
understand buying certain kinds of tapes -- like if there were a tape
for sale of the whole Nagano opening ceremonies, I might be interested
in buying it.  And I bought a tape in New Zealand of various scenery --
but must admit that I've watched it only once.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 01:39:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27662
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 01:39:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E78713@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 7:49:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12776959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 07:55:05 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66Bt5Z31143 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 07:55:05 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws50-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.50]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66Bt3Q06636
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:55:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000301c224a9$eee73d00$9a26ee41@computer>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D26DA92.CF85B963@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:54:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Brad Grissom wrote:

>  She has been inspired by my tales of
> Natalie's retirement, since they are almost exactly the same age,
> but she will probably have to teach another year at least.

Is she teaching in the public school system?  How many years does she
have?  The minimum for retirement is 25 years, but she could retire next
year with only 4 years.  I don't think that would produce much
retirement income, though.  Anyway, the PERS rule is 25 years at any age
or 4 years if you're 60 or over.  Unless I had another job lined up, I
would want at least 30 years of credit.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 02:24:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA27725
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 02:24:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E787B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 8:34:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12777316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 08:40:11 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66CUBZ00748 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 08:30:11 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66CUBOI004206 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 08:30:11 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207060829390.21777-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 08:30:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D26D986.A1E9D90@maynor.net>

On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>to my question, but it's still an answer).  I just don't understand why
>people buy tapes -- or at least tapes of things like movies -- I can
>understand buying certain kinds of tapes -- like if there were a tape
>for sale of the whole Nagano opening ceremonies, I might be interested
>in buying it.  And I bought a tape in New Zealand of various scenery --
>but must admit that I've watched it only once.

So do you steal them instead?

?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 02:58:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA27754
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 02:58:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E78869@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 9:08:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12778073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 09:13:30 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66DDUZ03752 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:13:30 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws134-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.134]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66DDSQ14855
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 08:13:28 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207060829390.21777-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D26ECF3.9A1FBA51@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 08:13:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >to my question, but it's still an answer).  I just don't understand why
> >people buy tapes -- or at least tapes of things like movies -- I can
> >understand buying certain kinds of tapes -- like if there were a tape
> >for sale of the whole Nagano opening ceremonies, I might be interested
> >in buying it.  And I bought a tape in New Zealand of various scenery --
> >but must admit that I've watched it only once.
>
> So do you steal them instead?

Do you steal books from libraries?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 03:06:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27773
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 03:06:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E78890@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 9:16:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12778215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 09:22:21 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66DMKZ04387 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:22:20 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66DMJRu024351 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:22:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020706062100.00a5f8f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:22:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000301c224a9$eee73d00$9a26ee41@computer>

At 12:59 AM 7/6/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>My sister Kay is here visiting and we are having a bang-up time.
>Tonight we watched -An Officer and a Gentleman- on the electric
>teevee.  We couldn't figure out what the term "D.O.R." stands
>for.   It's when the naval officer candidates voluntarily ask to
>be relieved.  I don't have web search capability right now
>(something Kay chides me for, as she should), so I am posing the
>question to the googlers on the list.  Kay will post to the list
>in the next day or two.  She has been inspired by my tales of
>Natalie's retirement, since they are almost exactly the same age,
>but she will probably have to teach another year at least.
.
Tell Kay  "Hi".    I really liked that movie and I'm sure someone has
already answered your question. Did you call Karen or Doris?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 03:09:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27780
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 03:09:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7889E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 9:19:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12778250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 09:25:07 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66DP7Z04527 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:25:07 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66DP6Ru028224 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:25:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020705225402.01f987f0@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020706062319.00a42970@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:25:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000301c224c7$45860ca0$2126ee41@computer>

At 04:29 AM 7/6/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> > >teevee.  We couldn't figure out what the term "D.O.R." stands
> > >for.   It's when the naval officer candidates voluntarily ask
>to
> > >be relieved.
> >
> > "Dropped On Request"
>
>Thank you, Commander Kaminski!  Admiral Farrell sent me an
>intuitive answer that was very close to your official one.  I
>can't wait to tell Kay in the morning.  We both enjoyed reseeing
>the movie.  The final scenes were especially nice.  When Gunnery
>Sergeant Lou Gosset salutes his newly-minted ensigns, Richard
>Gere tells him "I couldn't have made it without you", and the
>drill instructor tells him to "get the hell out of here".  I had
>remembered something a little sappier.  Then, as Gere leaves on
>his motorcycle, he pauses to watch Gosset haranguing the newest
>candidate class, and it's the same script he had to endure!  A
>good movie.
.
That's funny. Farrell reads the list and answers privately to people? Feels
like eavesdropping but that is what you have been doing Bradley Dale!  What
do you have to say about retirement now?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 03:12:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA28820
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 03:12:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F988F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 9:27:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12778288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 09:27:47 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66DRlZ04683 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:27:47 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66DRkRu029638 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:27:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020706012757.B993F7FFF@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D264C79.AA92ED7B@maynor.net> <3D2664D0.705E7BBC@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020706062537.00a3e690@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:27:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D26D986.A1E9D90@maynor.net>

At 06:50 AM 7/6/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>alyce cresap wrote:
>
> > > Why would I want to buy a DVD?  I've seen videotapes for sale in stores,
> > > of course, but have wondered who buys them and why.
> >
> > You might want to rent a DVD to play on your DVD player, if you had one.
> > I am finding that there are a lot of things on DVDs that I never even
> > knew about on VHS. Older things, foreign things.
>
>Thanks for an answer.  I started to reply to Karen's non-answer but
>didn't bother.  Responses like "never mind" are frustrating if you
>really do want an answer to a question.  I do understand why I might
>want to rent a dvd (which I suppose means that your answer isn't really
>to my question, but it's still an answer).  I just don't understand why
>people buy tapes -- or at least tapes of things like movies -- I can
>understand buying certain kinds of tapes -- like if there were a tape
>for sale of the whole Nagano opening ceremonies, I might be interested
>in buying it.  And I bought a tape in New Zealand of various scenery --
>but must admit that I've watched it only once.
.
Some people like to watch the same movie over and over again if it is a
favorite.  I know people who have big collections and they seem to enjoy
sharing them, too. I'm not one to do that.  You listen to the same music
again and again, no?  I guess it is like that.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 03:21:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29204
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 03:21:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E788D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 9:31:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12778416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 09:36:28 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66DaSZ05200 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:36:28 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws140-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.140]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66DaQQ17160
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 08:36:26 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020705225402.01f987f0@mail.istori.com>
            <4.2.2.20020706062319.00a42970@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D26F255.30C3C55E@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 08:36:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> That's funny. Farrell reads the list and answers privately to people? Feels

I assumed that Brad had sent private e-mail to JimF, thinking he would
be a likely one to know the answer to the question.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 03:24:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29216
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 03:24:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E788DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 9:34:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12778463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 09:39:40 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66DdeZ05412 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:39:40 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws140-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.140]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66DdYQ17468
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 08:39:34 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706012757.B993F7FFF@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D264C79.AA92ED7B@maynor.net> <3D2664D0.705E7BBC@valstar.net>
            <4.2.2.20020706062537.00a3e690@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D26F311.4F39E9A2@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 08:39:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> Some people like to watch the same movie over and over again if it is a
> favorite.  I know people who have big collections and they seem to enjoy
> sharing them, too. I'm not one to do that.  You listen to the same music
> again and again, no?  I guess it is like that.

I don't see listening to the same music over and over as being the same
as watching the same movie over and over.  There are a few movies that I
do want to watch again and a very few even more than twice -- e.g.,
"Casablanca," which I watch once every three or four years.  I do keep
movies like that, but they're tapes I've made myself, not tapes I've
bought.  I do rent movies occasionally, but the majority of tapes I
watch are ones I've made from tv.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 03:26:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29223
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 03:26:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E788E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 9:36:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12778528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 09:42:14 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66DgEZ05652 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:42:14 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66DgDRu003897 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:42:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020705225402.01f987f0@mail.istori.com>
            <4.2.2.20020706062319.00a42970@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020706064132.00a3e8a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:42:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D26F255.30C3C55E@maynor.net>

At 08:36 AM 7/6/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > That's funny. Farrell reads the list and answers privately to people? Feels
>
>I assumed that Brad had sent private e-mail to JimF, thinking he would
>be a likely one to know the answer to the question.

You assumed wrong.

How is your mother's fat dog?  Has he lost weight yet?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 03:30:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29238
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 03:30:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E788EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 9:40:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12778552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 09:45:53 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66DjqZ05886 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:45:53 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66DjpRu005030 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:45:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020706012757.B993F7FFF@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D264C79.AA92ED7B@maynor.net> <3D2664D0.705E7BBC@valstar.net>
            <4.2.2.20020706062537.00a3e690@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020706064235.00a48380@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:45:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D26F311.4F39E9A2@maynor.net>

At 08:39 AM 7/6/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > Some people like to watch the same movie over and over again if it is a
> > favorite.  I know people who have big collections and they seem to enjoy
> > sharing them, too. I'm not one to do that.  You listen to the same music
> > again and again, no?  I guess it is like that.
>
>I don't see listening to the same music over and over as being the same
>as watching the same movie over and over.  There are a few movies that I
>do want to watch again and a very few even more than twice -- e.g.,
>"Casablanca," which I watch once every three or four years.  I do keep
>movies like that, but they're tapes I've made myself, not tapes I've
>bought.  I do rent movies occasionally, but the majority of tapes I
>watch are ones I've made from tv.

I guess it is not the same for you but I know some people who do watch and
same movie over and over again. A friend bought Moulin Rouge and has
watched it dozens of times already.  You just have to accept that there are
people who do this.  It's okay.  You don't have to do it. Do you books over
again?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 03:32:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29242
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 03:32:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E788F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 9:42:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12778570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 09:47:53 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe33.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.90]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66DlqZ06090 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:47:52 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          6 Jul 2002 06:47:47 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2002 13:47:47.0395 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[B64D0930:01C224F3]
Message-ID:  <OE33A9mCF12aVLYxvn100006114@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 08:49:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: http://cafepress.com/batfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>AS, off to a party at Kentucky Lake


>What are you wearing?


>Marie
 >  lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


Now?
Spaghetti-strap red cotton knit night-thingie, knee length. That's it.

Then?
Black panties/bra (a Vassarette set, I believe), moss green cotton-knit top,
cap sleeves, square-cut neck. Slight cleavage (a constant). Black denim
shorts, tasteful cut and length  (full thigh coverage but still plenty of
bronzed leg). Fetching flat sandals (non-Birks, of course), gold. Fresh
pedicure (fuchsia/burgundy pearlized polish). Accessories, earwear: pearl
posts in one set of holes; gold loops in the other (standard). Movado
watch -- one of the "Museum" line: black face, black lizard band. Pearl
bracelet on same wrist. Sapphire/diamond ring on one hand; emerald ring,
other hand. Simple 16" serpentine thin gold chain with malachite and gold
pendant (all standard). Handbag: Aigner, leather in a dark chestnut brown.
Shot of Habanita parfum (by Molinard).

I'm not sure how all of this ranks on the Whorometer (TM) scale compared to
last year's Independence Day ensemble: shapeless denim jumper, black
cotton-knit tank top, brown leather flats, untanned legs, shot of Escape
parfum (Calvin Klein), some of the same accoutrements.

Amy

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 03:38:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29253
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 03:38:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F992A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 9:54:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12778727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 09:54:00 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66Ds0Z06741 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:54:00 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66DrwRu020249 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:53:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020706065317.00a48b70@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:53:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: http://cafepress.com/batfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE33A9mCF12aVLYxvn100006114@hotmail.com>

At 08:49 AM 7/6/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >AS, off to a party at Kentucky Lake
>
>
> >What are you wearing?
>
>
> >Marie
>  >  lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
>
>
>Now?
>Spaghetti-strap red cotton knit night-thingie, knee length. That's it.
>
>Then?
>Black panties/bra (a Vassarette set, I believe), moss green cotton-knit top,
>cap sleeves, square-cut neck. Slight cleavage (a constant). Black denim
>shorts, tasteful cut and length  (full thigh coverage but still plenty of
>bronzed leg). Fetching flat sandals (non-Birks, of course), gold. Fresh
>pedicure (fuchsia/burgundy pearlized polish). Accessories, earwear: pearl
>posts in one set of holes; gold loops in the other (standard). Movado
>watch -- one of the "Museum" line: black face, black lizard band. Pearl
>bracelet on same wrist. Sapphire/diamond ring on one hand; emerald ring,
>other hand. Simple 16" serpentine thin gold chain with malachite and gold
>pendant (all standard). Handbag: Aigner, leather in a dark chestnut brown.
>Shot of Habanita parfum (by Molinard).
>
>I'm not sure how all of this ranks on the Whorometer (TM) scale compared to
>last year's Independence Day ensemble: shapeless denim jumper, black
>cotton-knit tank top, brown leather flats, untanned legs, shot of Escape
>parfum (Calvin Klein), some of the same accoutrements.

Sounds like a great improvement.  How was the party?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 03:44:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29260
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 03:44:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E78941@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 9:54:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12778852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 09:59:41 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66DxeZ07216 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:59:41 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust58.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.60]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005035699@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 09:59:38 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706012757.B993F7FFF@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D264C79.AA92ED7B@maynor.net> <3D2664D0.705E7BBC@valstar.net>
            <4.2.2.20020706062537.00a3e690@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020706064235.00a48380@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D26F839.65ABB38B@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 10:01:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:
 I know some people who do watch and
> same movie over and over again. A friend bought Moulin Rouge and has
> watched it dozens of times already.  You just have to accept that there are
> people who do this.

Ken does this. He can watch a movie over and over and over again. He has
bought lots of VHS tapes-over 100. No DVDs yet, because he doesn't own a
player (I do). Doug has hundreds of VHS tapes and a large DVD library
(but I don't know how many he has by now).

As for me, I would not go out of my way to watch many things more than
once.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 03:46:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29272
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 03:46:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E78951@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 9:56:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12778896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 10:02:02 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66E22Z07457 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 10:02:02 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66E20Ru010732 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 07:02:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020706012757.B993F7FFF@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D264C79.AA92ED7B@maynor.net> <3D2664D0.705E7BBC@valstar.net>
            <4.2.2.20020706062537.00a3e690@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020706064235.00a48380@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020706070041.00a3e8f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 07:01:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D26F839.65ABB38B@valstar.net>

At 10:01 AM 7/6/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>  I know some people who do watch and
> > same movie over and over again. A friend bought Moulin Rouge and has
> > watched it dozens of times already.  You just have to accept that there are
> > people who do this.
>
>Ken does this. He can watch a movie over and over and over again. He has
>bought lots of VHS tapes-over 100. No DVDs yet, because he doesn't own a
>player (I do). Doug has hundreds of VHS tapes and a large DVD library
>(but I don't know how many he has by now).
>
>As for me, I would not go out of my way to watch many things more than
>once.

Me either but if I happen to run across one while channel surfing I'll
sometimes watch it again if I enjoyed it before.  Sometimes I have
forgotten how it ends so I  keep watching.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 03:48:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29276
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 03:48:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E78969@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 9:58:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12778961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 10:04:12 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe23.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.80]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66E4CZ07628 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 10:04:12 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          6 Jul 2002 07:04:06 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2002 14:04:06.0955 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[FE2A07B0:01C224F5]
Message-ID:  <OE23jxe0ymQ1WE9ql2R00000623@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:05:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: http://cafepress.com/batfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Sounds like a great improvement.  How was the party?


>Betty

:).

Nice and tame, actually. Some people swam, others walked around the trails
(moi), some stood around and drank some beer. Hamburgers and smoked sausages
on the grill. Mostly a mixed bag of internationals and visiting scholars
(including a group of 40 Koreans, newly arrived). There was a good ice fight
at one point, and a lot of the Taiwanese had invested in some upscale
fireworks which we had fun setting off by the lake.

On the 4th my mom and I decided to go outlet malling in Union City, Tenn.
(not that far) during the day. That evening I managed to get a speeding
ticket -- my first in Kentucky. It was a courteous exchange.

Brad, did you hear how the Kentucky State Police now has a small fleet of
turbocharged Camaros on patrol?

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 05:29:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA29368
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 05:29:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E78DDC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:39:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12781198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 11:44:46 -0400
Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66FikZ15689 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:44:46 -0400
Received: from TheodoraMG@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.13c.10ea3e14 (4258) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002
          11:44:35 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46
Message-ID:  <13c.10ea3e14.2a586a62@aol.com>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:44:34 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Theodora Groothof <TheodoraMG@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

. 3

****HUGZ**** Theo

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 05:35:30 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA29424
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 05:35:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000F9C09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:50:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12781286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 11:50:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66FonZ16129 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:50:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6C75E804C; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 08:49:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020706154915.6C75E804C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 08:49:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The Guadalupe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207052320240.21426-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 5, 2002 11:25:59 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> The Guadalupe river is doing a number on Texans! I've known this for
> several days, but it took one word today to being it home. Seguin. Seguin,
> TX. It's not an extremely important town, as towns go. But I know it and
> when I heard that it was flooded, I was suddenly transported back to those
> acres that I never before thought of as flood plains there in central
> Texas.

There are a lot of things flooding that never flooded before.

> The Guadalupe is the first river I swam in. It's the first river I saw
> used for baptisms. I have a childhood memory of spending an entire day in
> that river. When I lay down to go to sleep that night, I continued to feel
> the rhythms of the river as I drifted off, floating, floating, moved by
> waves.

Huh. I've always thought of this as a lake/ocean thing.

> Maybe I should retire to Texas, really BE a Texan one more time in this
> life.

I can only recommend it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 05:41:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA29475
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 05:41:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000F9C2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:56:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12781336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 11:56:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66FuOZ16466 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:56:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 226AF7FD4; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 08:56:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020706155624.226AF7FD4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 08:56:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Setse
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D26D986.A1E9D90@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 6,
              2002  6:50:30 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> I just don't understand why
> people buy tapes -- or at least tapes of things like movies -- I can
> understand buying certain kinds of tapes -- like if there were a tape
> for sale of the whole Nagano opening ceremonies, I might be interested
> in buying it.

People buy tapes for the same reason you would buy a tape of the
Nagano opening ceremonies. Karsten has DVD's of Wallace and Gromit,
and I make him play them every time I visit.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 06:03:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29527
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 06:03:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E78F6A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:13:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12781984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 12:18:58 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66GIwZ18626 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:18:58 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws148-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.148]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66GItQ06900
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:18:56 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020705225402.01f987f0@mail.istori.com>
            <4.2.2.20020706062319.00a42970@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020706064132.00a3e8a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D27186A.FB4B4C55@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:18:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> How is your mother's fat dog?  Has he lost weight yet?

I haven't weighed him lately.  He's still mightily fat (a new employee
at the nusring home the other day looked at him and asked if "she" was
pregnant).  But the improvement in his general physical fitness has been
amazing.  I just got back from a long, sweaty walk with both dogs, and
Buddy was running and jumping even at the end.  He could barely waddle
across the yard when he first got here.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 06:04:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29534
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 06:04:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000F9CF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:20:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12782006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 12:19:58 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66GJwZ18728 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:19:58 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws148-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.148]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66GJuQ07004
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:19:56 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706012757.B993F7FFF@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D264C79.AA92ED7B@maynor.net> <3D2664D0.705E7BBC@valstar.net>
            <4.2.2.20020706062537.00a3e690@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020706064235.00a48380@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2718A7.F11DC4DB@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:19:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> people who do this.  It's okay.  You don't have to do it. Do you books over
> again?

No -- or at least not unless I have to for some reason, like it's
something I'm teaching and have forgotten details of.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 06:05:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29538
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 06:05:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E78F7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:15:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12782036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 12:20:57 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66GKvZ18858 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:20:57 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws148-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.148]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66GKsQ07150
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:20:55 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706155624.226AF7FD4@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2718E2.C9D8EEB6@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:20:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Setse
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> People buy tapes for the same reason you would buy a tape of the
> Nagano opening ceremonies. Karsten has DVD's of Wallace and Gromit,
> and I make him play them every time I visit.

What's Wallace and Gromit?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 06:14:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29549
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 06:14:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E78FEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:24:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12782361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 12:29:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66GTZZ19750 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:29:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 19F6D8033; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 09:29:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020706162935.19F6D8033@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:29:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Setse
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2718E2.C9D8EEB6@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 6,
              2002 11:20:50 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > People buy tapes for the same reason you would buy a tape of the
> > Nagano opening ceremonies. Karsten has DVD's of Wallace and Gromit,
> > and I make him play them every time I visit.
>
> What's Wallace and Gromit?

British claymation. The sheep in the mattress commercials first
appeared in a Wallace and Gromit.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 06:33:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29574
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 06:33:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E79073@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:42:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12782770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 12:48:21 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66GmLZ21249 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:48:21 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66GmKRu014284 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:48:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020705225402.01f987f0@mail.istori.com>
            <4.2.2.20020706062319.00a42970@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020706064132.00a3e8a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020706094745.00a4df00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:48:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D27186A.FB4B4C55@maynor.net>

At 11:18 AM 7/6/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > How is your mother's fat dog?  Has he lost weight yet?
>
>I haven't weighed him lately.  He's still mightily fat (a new employee
>at the nusring home the other day looked at him and asked if "she" was
>pregnant).  But the improvement in his general physical fitness has been
>amazing.  I just got back from a long, sweaty walk with both dogs, and
>Buddy was running and jumping even at the end.  He could barely waddle
>across the yard when he first got here.

That's great, Natalie. Would you take me for a walk?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 06:34:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29581
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 06:34:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7907A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:44:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12782794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 12:49:27 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66GnQZ21335 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:49:26 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66GnPRu016066 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:49:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020706012757.B993F7FFF@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D264C79.AA92ED7B@maynor.net> <3D2664D0.705E7BBC@valstar.net>
            <4.2.2.20020706062537.00a3e690@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020706064235.00a48380@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020706094830.00a46120@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:49:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2718A7.F11DC4DB@maynor.net>

At 11:19 AM 7/6/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > people who do this.  It's okay.  You don't have to do it. Do you read
> books over
> > again?
>
>No -- or at least not unless I have to for some reason, like it's
>something I'm teaching and have forgotten details of.

I've bought books that I have forgotten that I read.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 06:46:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29593
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 06:46:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E790F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:56:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12782865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 13:02:01 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66Gq1Z21605 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:52:01 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66Gq0OI015045 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:52:00 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207061251001.23861-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:52:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D26ECF3.9A1FBA51@maynor.net>

On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> So do you steal them instead?
>
>Do you steal books from libraries?

Please answer my question. Then if we need to discuss libraries, we can
do so. That is a separate topic.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 06:50:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29597
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 06:50:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000F9E6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 13:06:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12783273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 13:06:04 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66H63Z22845 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 13:06:03 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust35.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.37]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005037900@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 13:06:03 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706162935.19F6D8033@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2723EA.BECDAFE0@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 13:07:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: TV Setse
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
>
> British claymation. The sheep in the mattress commercials first
> appeared in a Wallace and Gromit.

I am eagerly awaiting the question: "What sheep in the mattress
commercials?" I am quivering in anticipation.

alyce
>
> Karen


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 07:08:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29620
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 07:08:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E791A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 13:18:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12783540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 13:23:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66HNSZ24192 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 13:23:28 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9C96E7F32; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 10:23:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020706172327.9C96E7F32@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 10:23:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Setse
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2723EA.BECDAFE0@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 6,
              2002  1: 7:54 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > British claymation. The sheep in the mattress commercials first
> > appeared in a Wallace and Gromit.
>
> I am eagerly awaiting the question: "What sheep in the mattress
> commercials?" I am quivering in anticipation.

I know. I couldn't remember which W&G or which mattress company.

Here's a web site that shows the sheep, except the ones in the
commercials have white faces.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 07:14:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29631
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 07:14:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E791CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 13:24:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12783662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 13:29:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66HTOZ24658 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 13:29:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3C79E7E0C; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 10:29:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020706172924.3C79E7E0C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 10:29:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      P.S.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I love that the sheep's name is Shaun.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 07:17:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29643
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 07:17:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E791E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 13:27:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12783744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 13:32:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66HWfZ24974 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 13:32:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 99D9E7E70; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 10:32:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020706173240.99D9E7E70@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 10:32:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: P.S.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020706172924.3C79E7E0C@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at
              "Jul 6, 2002 10:29:24 am"

Karen Kay said:
> I love that the sheep's name is Shaun.

Here's his home page:
http://www.aardman.com/wallaceandgromit/homesweethome/shaun/index.shtml

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 07:49:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29679
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 07:49:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FA064@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 14:04:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12784622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 14:04:54 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66I4rZ27934 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 14:04:54 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust35.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.37]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003730147@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 14:04:52 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706172327.9C96E7F32@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2731B1.6483B273@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 14:06:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: TV Setse
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > I am eagerly awaiting the question: "What sheep in the mattress
> > commercials?" I am quivering in anticipation.

I know the sheep. I meant that I was waiting for Natalie to ask. And, of
course, she says she does not usually pursue URLs, like you have given
so kindly.

alyce

--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 08:04:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29703
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 08:04:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E79319@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 14:14:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12784821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 14:19:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66IJQZ28929 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 14:19:26 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A188580EF; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 11:19:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020706181925.A188580EF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:19:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Setse
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2731B1.6483B273@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 6,
              2002  2: 6:41 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> I know the sheep.

I know you know, because you DO know.

> I meant that I was waiting for Natalie to ask.

Yes. I was trying to forestall this.

> And, of course, she says she does not usually pursue URLs, like you
> have given so kindly.

Oh well. Her loss.

Karen
who has tapes of movies

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 09:25:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29806
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 09:25:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E795F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 15:35:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12786504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 15:40:42 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66JUgZ02933 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 15:30:42 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66JUfOI009361;
          Sat, 6 Jul 2002 15:30:41 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207061530140.25647-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 15:30:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      school bus floating in the Guadalupe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WEATHER/07/06/texas.floods/index.html

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 09:27:57 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29813
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 09:27:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FA450@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 15:43:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12786538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 15:43:10 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f216.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.216]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66JX9Z03104 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 15:33:09 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          6 Jul 2002 12:33:04 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 06
          Jul 2002 19:33:04 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2002 19:33:04.0391 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[F297C170:01C22523]
Message-ID:  <F216jvshKxcp7AVliVM00006213@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:33:04 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I dropped whatever I was doing and went home by 5 yesterday just
so I could catch the UPS guy only to find the third notice on my
door. Grrrr. The second notice had said he'd stop after 5 pm. I'd
also scotch-taped a note on the door asking that the package be
left at the door but all I got was another frigging notice.
Now I have to wait until Monday go to the hideously inconvenient
UPS warehouse to pick up my package. This happens to me every single
time with UPS. Plus it's not possible to waylay the process
after one or two notices. You have to go thro' the whole bloody
cycle, wait another 3 days and then go claim the package.

I never have this problem with US Mail and always ask to use
that if it's available. I'd use online shopping more if I didn't
have to deal with UPS.

Grrrrrrrrr.

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 09:52:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29836
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 09:52:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E797CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 16:02:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12787374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 16:07:39 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66K7dZ05851 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 16:07:39 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust189.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.191]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005040042@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 16:07:38 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F216jvshKxcp7AVliVM00006213@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D274E77.A6A7A536@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 16:09:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rashmi Murthy wrote:
>  You have to go thro' the whole bloody
> cycle, wait another 3 days and then go claim the package.

On the other hand, around here, UPS throws the package on the porch.
They do not even ring the doorbell. Anyone could come and steal the
packages. New drivers do not know the addresses, and people often get
things for their neighbors by mistake. I hate UPS too, but for the
opposite reason.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 12:16:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00175
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 12:16:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A00E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:26:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12792266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 18:31:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66MVqZ17771 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:31:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D3340810A; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 15:31:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020706223151.D3340810A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 15:31:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Cleaning with cola...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://mrsfixit.com/fixits/cat/fixit/?id=326&cat_id=7

But it doesn't say WHY it works. Does it have to be cola? Can it be a
diet cola? Would Seven-Up work?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 12:20:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00179
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 12:20:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A03F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:30:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12792454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 18:35:48 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66MZmZ18253 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:35:48 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws155-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.155]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66MZkQ18132
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:35:46 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706162935.19F6D8033@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2770BD.789CA0EB@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:35:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Setse
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> British claymation. The sheep in the mattress commercials first
> appeared in a Wallace and Gromit.

What sheep in what mattresses?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 12:21:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00186
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 12:21:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A051@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:31:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12792527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 18:36:33 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66MaXZ18410 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:36:33 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws155-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.155]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66MaVQ18224
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:36:31 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020705225402.01f987f0@mail.istori.com>
            <4.2.2.20020706062319.00a42970@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020706064132.00a3e8a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020706094745.00a4df00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2770EA.EC4F9A09@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:36:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> That's great, Natalie. Would you take me for a walk?

Certainly.  It would be fun to watch you running and jumping in the
sauna-like weather we're having.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 12:23:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00190
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 12:23:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A05D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:32:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12792578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 18:38:11 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66McBZ18629 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:38:11 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws155-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.155]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66Mc8Q18495
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:38:09 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706012757.B993F7FFF@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D264C79.AA92ED7B@maynor.net> <3D2664D0.705E7BBC@valstar.net>
            <4.2.2.20020706062537.00a3e690@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020706064235.00a48380@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020706094830.00a46120@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D27714C.99A60A2A@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:38:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> I've bought books that I have forgotten that I read.

Oh yes.  Me too.  That's why I finally quit buying any Agatha Christie
books.  But I never read one the second time all the way through.  At
some point I would figure out that I'd read it before.

Movies occasionally I've watched all the way through without being
positive I've seen them before but with a strong feeling I have.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 12:23:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00194
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 12:23:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A06D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:33:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12792622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 18:39:00 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66McxZ18702 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:38:59 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws155-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.155]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66McuQ18606
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:38:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207061251001.23861-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D27717C.B33D6C15@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:38:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> >> So do you steal them instead?
> >
> >Do you steal books from libraries?
>
> Please answer my question. Then if we need to discuss libraries, we can
> do so. That is a separate topic.

No, I've never stolen a videotape.  Why do you think you either buy them
or steal them?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 12:24:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00199
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 12:24:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A072@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:34:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12792632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 18:39:50 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66MdoZ18813 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:39:50 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws155-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.155]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66MdmQ18753
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:39:48 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706162935.19F6D8033@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2723EA.BECDAFE0@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2771AF.639360D6@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:39:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Setse
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> I am eagerly awaiting the question: "What sheep in the mattress
> commercials?" I am quivering in anticipation.

You got it.  Is everybody supposed to know about sheep-in-the-mattress
commercials?  If so, why are they supposed to know about them?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 12:26:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00203
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 12:26:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FABC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:42:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12792664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 18:42:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66Mg1Z19055 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:42:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9ECCF810A; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 15:42:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020706224200.9ECCF810A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 15:42:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Setse
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2771AF.639360D6@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 6,
              2002  5:39:43 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> alyce cresap wrote:
>
> > I am eagerly awaiting the question: "What sheep in the mattress
> > commercials?" I am quivering in anticipation.
>
> You got it.  Is everybody supposed to know about sheep-in-the-mattress
> commercials?  If so, why are they supposed to know about them?

It's part of popular culture.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 12:29:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00211
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 12:29:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A086@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:39:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12792700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 18:44:55 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66MitZ19293 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:44:55 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws155-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.155]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66MirQ19357
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:44:53 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F216jvshKxcp7AVliVM00006213@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2772E0.D39EB9C2@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:44:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Eeek.  I just thought of something.  Since I really am considering
myself retired as in not <assuming> a <place> in the department, what
will I do about UPS?  I also detest UPS and avoid it when possible.  But
my normal routine when ordering something that I think might involve UPS
is to add under my regular address (which is Box 31) a line saying Lee
Hall 316.  Sometimes UPS and other such entities don't need that --
they'll simply look people up in the campus directory and deliver
packages to the appropriate office.  But I won't be in the campus
directory, and I don't want to be presumptious in having the secretaries
sign for receipt of packages for me when I'm no longer an employee.
This is the first negative thought re retirement.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 12:33:15 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00223
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 12:33:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29673
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:38:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FABF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:47:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12792745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 18:47:59 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66MlwZ19531 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:47:59 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws155-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.155]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66MluQ19830
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:47:56 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F216jvshKxcp7AVliVM00006213@hotmail.com>
            <3D274E77.A6A7A536@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D277397.C4AE29E@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:47:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:
>
> Rashmi Murthy wrote:
> >  You have to go thro' the whole bloody
> > cycle, wait another 3 days and then go claim the package.
>
> On the other hand, around here, UPS throws the package on the porch.
> They do not even ring the doorbell. Anyone could come and steal the

That's what they do here for street addresses -- they toss things like
computers onto driveways, never worrying about thieves or rain.  But I
don't use a street address.  When I get UPS deliveries and don't have my
office's physical address on the order and when the UPS people don't
look in the campus directory, I get a postcard in my mailbox with a
phone number to call to discuss how I might get the package.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 12:43:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00237
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 12:43:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A0B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:52:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12792848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 18:58:23 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66MwNZ20342 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:58:23 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 68348805F; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 15:58:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020706225822.68348805F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 15:58:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F216jvshKxcp7AVliVM00006213@hotmail.com> from Rashmi Murthy at
              "Jul 6, 2002  7:33: 4 pm"

Rashmi Murthy said:
> I dropped whatever I was doing and went home by 5 yesterday just
> so I could catch the UPS guy only to find the third notice on my
> door. Grrrr. The second notice had said he'd stop after 5 pm. I'd
> also scotch-taped a note on the door asking that the package be
> left at the door but all I got was another frigging notice.
> Now I have to wait until Monday go to the hideously inconvenient
> UPS warehouse to pick up my package. This happens to me every single
> time with UPS. Plus it's not possible to waylay the process
> after one or two notices. You have to go thro' the whole bloody
> cycle, wait another 3 days and then go claim the package.

Can't you phone them and arrange delivery at work or something? That's
what I did when I lived in Mountain View and had delivery
difficulties.  I never had to go to the hideously inconvenient
warehouse (they always are).

> I never have this problem with US Mail and always ask to use
> that if it's available. I'd use online shopping more if I didn't
> have to deal with UPS.

Well, I was home one day, and the mail woman left 3 pkgs out on my
front stoop and didn't even bother ringing the bell. UPS a) always
rings and b) covers up the pkg, which I'm sure fools no one, but looks
a little less obvious.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 12:45:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00249
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 12:45:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FAC53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:00:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12793010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 19:00:43 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66N0hZ20577 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:00:43 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66N0gRu015449 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 16:00:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <F216jvshKxcp7AVliVM00006213@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020706155858.00a25470@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 16:00:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2772E0.D39EB9C2@maynor.net>

At 05:44 PM 7/6/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Eeek.  I just thought of something.  Since I really am considering
>myself retired as in not <assuming> a <place> in the department, what
>will I do about UPS?  I also detest UPS and avoid it when possible.  But
>my normal routine when ordering something that I think might involve UPS
>is to add under my regular address (which is Box 31) a line saying Lee
>Hall 316.  Sometimes UPS and other such entities don't need that --
>they'll simply look people up in the campus directory and deliver
>packages to the appropriate office.  But I won't be in the campus
>directory, and I don't want to be presumptious in having the secretaries
>sign for receipt of packages for me when I'm no longer an employee.
>This is the first negative thought re retirement.

Go ahead and continue to impose on them for your personal business.  I
wonder what Rashmi ordered? I wonder when she is going to announce where
the next words-l event will be?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:08:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00282
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 13:08:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A1BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:18:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12793581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 19:23:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66NNRZ22756 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:23:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 76C228122; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 16:23:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020706232326.76C228122@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 16:23:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020706155858.00a25470@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 6, 2002  4: 0:33 pm"

Betty said:
> I wonder what Rashmi ordered? I wonder when she is going to announce where
> the next words-l event will be?

I don't think we should pressure her; she's having a Bad Weekend.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:20:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00304
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 13:20:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A252@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:30:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12793610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 19:35:30 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66NPUZ22963 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:25:30 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66NPUOI010070 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:25:30 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207061923230.27058-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:25:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D27717C.B33D6C15@maynor.net>

On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>No, I've never stolen a videotape.  Why do you think you either buy them
>or steal them?

What a funny question, especially since I have not given a comprehensive
list of the various ways in which one may acquire tapes. I asked what
methodology you use, since you suggested that you do not buy them. The
topic <seemed> to be the acquisition of tapes for viewing. But perhaps it
was something else.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:21:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00312
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 13:21:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FAD4C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:36:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12793632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 19:36:55 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66NQsZ23075 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:26:55 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66NQsOI010256 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:26:54 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207061925560.27058-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:26:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2772E0.D39EB9C2@maynor.net>

On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>packages to the appropriate office.  But I won't be in the campus
>directory, and I don't want to be presumptious in having the secretaries
>sign for receipt of packages for me when I'm no longer an employee.
>This is the first negative thought re retirement.

Now this is what retiring but not really retiring leads to - presumptious
behavior!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:23:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00316
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 13:23:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A269@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:32:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12794000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 19:38:19 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66NcJZ24402 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:38:19 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66NcIRu014032 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 16:38:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D27717C.B33D6C15@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020706163716.00a23910@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 16:38:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207061923230.27058-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu >

At 07:25 PM 7/6/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> >No, I've never stolen a videotape.  Why do you think you either buy them
> >or steal them?
>
>What a funny question, especially since I have not given a comprehensive
>list of the various ways in which one may acquire tapes. I asked what
>methodology you use, since you suggested that you do not buy them. The
>topic <seemed> to be the acquisition of tapes for viewing. But perhaps it
>was something else.

Did you read about the new card fees in effect abroad?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:36:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00328
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 13:36:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A290@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:46:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12794031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 19:51:40 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66NfeZ24681 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:41:40 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66NfdOI012221 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:41:39 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207061941180.26355-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:41:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020706163716.00a23910@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

>Did you read about the new card fees in effect abroad?

What kinds of cards?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:36:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00335
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 13:36:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FAD90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:51:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12794090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 19:51:47 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66NplZ25331 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:51:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66NpiQ26425
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:51:45 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F216jvshKxcp7AVliVM00006213@hotmail.com>
            <4.2.2.20020706155858.00a25470@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D27828B.350A4EC4@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:51:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> Go ahead and continue to impose on them for your personal business.  I

I realize that my behavior is in fact rather <extreme>.  Nobody asked me
to move out of my office -- I just did it.  And nobody would care if I
continued receiving packages there, but it strikes me as <not right>.
It's just part of my mutant attitudes, I guess.  I also have never
thought it <right> for people to use the departmental address as their
only mailing address -- as in their home electric bills, etc.  They
don't bother to rent a personal p.o. box.  (Some people use home
addresses, of course, but most people I know don't.)  Something strikes
me as <wrong> about having personal mail regularly arriving at a work
address.  Occasionally it's ok, but I'm talking about people who have no
other address -- as in all their personal bills etc arrive at the office
and have to be put into their mailboxes by the student workers.

I just noticed that you said my "personal business."  That's another way
I may be mutant.  I realize that there are people in the world who do
things like take income-tax deductions for all the books, computer
equipment, etc. that they buy -- claiming that they're all "business
expenses."  I don't.  But that's the kind of stuff I get via UPS --
stuff that's work-related in one way or another.  The only thing I can
think of that wasn't of that ilk was that fat notebook full of nothing
that my RRSIL sent by some kind of mail service that wasn't US Mail a
couple of weeks ago.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:37:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00339
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 13:37:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FAD93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:52:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12794113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 19:52:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66NqSZ25413 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:52:28 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C2D4D8134; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 16:52:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020706235227.C2D4D8134@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 16:52:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207061923230.27058-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 6, 2002  7:25:29 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> The topic <seemed> to be the acquisition of tapes for viewing. But
> perhaps it was something else.

It was the acquisition of tapes for viewing and reviewing. Since N
doesn't do that, the question is moot.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:37:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00343
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 13:37:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A299@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:47:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12794120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 19:52:36 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66NqZZ25425 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:52:36 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g66NqZRu027014 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 16:52:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020706163716.00a23910@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020706165208.00a37aa0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 16:52:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207061941180.26355-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

At 07:41 PM 7/6/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
>
> >Did you read about the new card fees in effect abroad?
>
>What kinds of cards?

credit cards

http://tinyurl.com/kw5

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:38:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00347
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 13:38:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A29D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:48:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12794130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 19:53:57 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66NrvZ25474 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:53:57 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66NrtQ26735
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:53:55 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207061923230.27058-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D27830E.ADB8590C@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:53:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> >No, I've never stolen a videotape.  Why do you think you either buy them
> >or steal them?
>
> What a funny question, especially since I have not given a comprehensive
> list of the various ways in which one may acquire tapes. I asked what
> methodology you use, since you suggested that you do not buy them. The
> topic <seemed> to be the acquisition of tapes for viewing. But perhaps it
> was something else.

Talk about funny questions -- yours was what I'd call downright
bizarre.  I said that I don't buy videotapes, and your response to that
was "do you steal them?"

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:40:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00353
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 13:39:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A2A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:49:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12794170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 19:55:06 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66Nt6Z25583 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:55:06 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66Nt3Q26857
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:55:04 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207061925560.27058-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D278353.ACB30E6F@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:54:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >packages to the appropriate office.  But I won't be in the campus
> >directory, and I don't want to be presumptious in having the secretaries
> >sign for receipt of packages for me when I'm no longer an employee.
> >This is the first negative thought re retirement.
>
> Now this is what retiring but not really retiring leads to - presumptious
> behavior!

?  What does it have to do with retiring but not really retiring?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:41:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00369
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 13:41:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A2AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:50:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12794181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 19:55:53 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66NtrZ25618 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:55:53 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66NtoQ27015
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:55:51 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D27717C.B33D6C15@maynor.net>
            <4.2.2.20020706163716.00a23910@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D278382.8DE6AB41@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:55:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> Did you read about the new card fees in effect abroad?

Cards?  What kind of cards?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:43:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00373
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 13:43:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A2B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:52:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12794198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 19:58:21 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g66NwLZ25757 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:58:21 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g66NwJQ27263
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:58:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706235227.C2D4D8134@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D278416.603A0D8A@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:58:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Bethany K. Dumas said:
> > The topic <seemed> to be the acquisition of tapes for viewing. But
> > perhaps it was something else.
>
> It was the acquisition of tapes for viewing and reviewing. Since N
> doesn't do that, the question is moot.

Yes, I do.  I thought I'd already mentioned that I watch certain movies
(e.g., "Casablanca") regularly.  I also have some French tapes that I
watched quite a few times back in the mid '80s.  But I've never bought
any of those tapes.  I've taped them from tv.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:45:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00385
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 13:45:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A2BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:55:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12794231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 20:00:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6700gZ25916 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:00:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5900C813D; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 17:00:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707000041.5900C813D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:00:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D278416.603A0D8A@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 6,
              2002  6:58:14 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Yes, I do.  I thought I'd already mentioned that I watch certain movies
> (e.g., "Casablanca") regularly.  I also have some French tapes that I
> watched quite a few times back in the mid '80s.  But I've never bought
> any of those tapes.  I've taped them from tv.

But you can't just click a button onscreen and watch them in English
like you could with a DVD.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 14:00:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00393
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 14:00:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A2F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:09:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12794451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 20:15:04 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g670F4Z26974 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:15:04 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws102-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.102]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g670F2Q29144
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:15:02 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707000041.5900C813D@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D278801.4C3331A5@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:14:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > Yes, I do.  I thought I'd already mentioned that I watch certain movies
> > (e.g., "Casablanca") regularly.  I also have some French tapes that I
> > watched quite a few times back in the mid '80s.  But I've never bought
> > any of those tapes.  I've taped them from tv.
>
> But you can't just click a button onscreen and watch them in English
> like you could with a DVD.

I don't need to click a button to watch "Casablanca" in English.  Just
turning it on produces English-speaking voices.  And I wouldn't want to
click a button to watch those French tapes in English since the whole
point of my watching them was the French.

But now I'm about to go click the "on" buttons on my tv set and vcr to
watch "A Beautiful Mind," which I rented late this afternoon.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 14:20:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00439
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 14:20:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A34F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:30:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12794586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 20:35:37 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g670PbZ27625 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:25:37 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g670PaOI017572 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:25:36 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207062025040.26539-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:25:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D278353.ACB30E6F@maynor.net>

On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> Now this is what retiring but not really retiring leads to - presumptious
>> behavior!
>
>?  What does it have to do with retiring but not really retiring?

I don't think you would understand.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 14:21:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00446
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 14:21:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A355@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:31:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12794601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 20:36:29 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g670QTZ27685 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:26:29 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g670QSOI017714 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:26:28 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207062025520.26539-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:26:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D27830E.ADB8590C@maynor.net>

On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>Talk about funny questions -- yours was what I'd call downright
>bizarre.  I said that I don't buy videotapes, and your response to that
>was "do you steal them?"

No - that was not my response. That was PART of my response.

<Never mind.>

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 14:22:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00450
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 14:22:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A35F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:32:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12794640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 20:37:57 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g670RvZ27787 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:27:57 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g670RuOI017905 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:27:56 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207062026580.26539-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:27:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D278416.603A0D8A@maynor.net>

On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>Yes, I do.  I thought I'd already mentioned that I watch certain movies
>(e.g., "Casablanca") regularly.  I also have some French tapes that I
>watched quite a few times back in the mid '80s.  But I've never bought
>any of those tapes.  I've taped them from tv.

Ummm ... I wonder how you acquire the blanks for taping. Or do you tape
over those that you have acqured mysteriously neither by buying nor
stealing?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 14:57:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00476
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 14:57:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A3DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 21:06:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12795206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 21:12:13 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g671CDZ30219 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 21:12:13 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.37]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYUTYH01.OOT for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:11:05 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706012757.B993F7FFF@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D264C79.AA92ED7B@maynor.net> <3D2664D0.705E7BBC@valstar.net>
            <4.2.2.20020706062537.00a3e690@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D26F311.4F39E9A2@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D279558.564EFDA8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:11:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> I don't see listening to the same music over and over as being the same
> as watching the same movie over and over.  There are a few movies that I
> do want to watch again and a very few even more than twice -- e.g.,
> "Casablanca," which I watch once every three or four years.

    Just remember, you'll never marry anyone you watch "Casablanca" with...

Rick

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 16:14:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00551
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 16:14:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A721@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:24:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12796456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 22:30:01 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g672K0Z01567 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:20:00 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g672K0OI005196;
          Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:20:00 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207062216040.27024-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:20:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      NYTimes.com Article: The New Retirement Comes in Four Financial
              Flavors - extract
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The New Retirement Comes in Four Financial Flavors
July 7, 2002 By FRED BROCK

A recent study of current retirees by Harris Interactive and Dr. Ken
Dychtwald, an author and gerontologist, has identified four main types of
retirees - the "four faces of retirement," as it calls them. The study was
sponsored by AIG SunAmerica, a financial services company that is a
subsidiary of the American International Group.
....
THE AGELESS EXPLORERS These retirees represent 27 percent of those
surveyed and are the leaders in creating a new definition of
retirement. They see themselves in an exciting new phase of life and would
rather be too busy than risk being bored. They have the highest level of
education and have saved for 24 years, on average, for retirement. They
have an average household income of $64,800 and an average net worth of
$469,800.

THE COMFORTABLY CONTENTS This group (19 percent) aims to live the
traditional retirement life of leisure; its members aren't as interested
in work or contributing to society. They have saved, on average, for 23
years and spend their time on travel or other recreational
activities. Their average income is $61,200; their average net worth is
$367,500.

THE LIVE FOR TODAYS These people (22 percent) aspire to be Ageless
Explorers and may be even more interested in personal growth and
reinvention. But they have always focused on the present and didn't devote
much time to retirement planning - having saved for only 18 years, on
average. They have a great deal of anxiety about their finances and are
likely to continue working during retirement. Average income is $46,300,
and average net worth is $222,600.

THE SICK AND TIREDS The largest of the four groups - 32 percent - its
members are in the worst circumstances. They are less educated, have fewer
financial resources and have low expectations for the future. They are
more likely to\ have been forced into retirement by poor health and are
less likely to travel, participate in community events or tap into their
potential. They have saved for, on average, just 16 years; average income
is $31,900 and average net worth is $161,200.

etc.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/business/yourmoney/07SENI.html?ex=1027007953&ei=1&en=11d5ccce8d7173df

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 16:24:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00564
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 16:24:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A74F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:34:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12796825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 22:39:49 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g672dnZ02680 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:39:49 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g672dmHE032686 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:39:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D27717C.B33D6C15@maynor.net>
            <4.2.2.20020706163716.00a23910@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020706193919.00a5edc0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:39:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D278382.8DE6AB41@maynor.net>

At 06:55 PM 7/6/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > Did you read about the new card fees in effect abroad?
>
>Cards?  What kind of cards?

Credit cards.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 16:29:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00571
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 16:29:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A767@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:39:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12796906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 22:44:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g672idZ03035 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:44:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 80E56811D; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 19:44:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707024438.80E56811D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:44:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020706193919.00a5edc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 6, 2002  7:39:38 pm"

Betty said:
> At 06:55 PM 7/6/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >Betty wrote:
> >
> > > Did you read about the new card fees in effect abroad?
> >
> >Cards?  What kind of cards?
>
> Credit cards.

Is there a deadline for ordering Batfest items?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 16:33:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00598
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 16:33:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A82A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:43:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12797012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 22:48:47 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g672mkZ03329 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:48:46 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g672mjHE017007 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:48:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020706193919.00a5edc0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020706194508.00a53ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:48:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      BatFest Items
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020707024438.80E56811D@yellow.rahul.net>

At 07:44 PM 7/6/2002 -0700, Karen wrote:


>Is there a deadline for ordering Batfest items?

I don't think so but  I don't know how that part of it works.  Honey Pot's
mug was still available and that was up there for a couple of years he
said.  HoneyPot isn't right, is it? List Honey, I mean.  LOL

I did order the BatFest coaster, too, as well as shirts.  Someone should be
getting theirs pretty soon.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 16:37:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00610
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 16:37:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7A94B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:46:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12797230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 22:52:07 -0400
Received: from cpimssmtpu01.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu01.email.msn.com
          [207.46.181.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g672q6Z03676 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:52:06
          -0400
Received: from computer ([67.242.15.182]) by cpimssmtpu01.email.msn.com with
          Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:51:10 -0700
References: <4.2.2.20020706163716.00a23910@uclink.berkeley.edu> 
            <4.2.2.20020706165208.00a37aa0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2002 02:51:11.0276 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[26CC16C0:01C22561]
Message-ID:  <006701c22561$163f5560$b60ff243@computer>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:50:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Betty" <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
To: <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: TV Sets


> At 07:41 PM 7/6/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
> >
> > >Did you read about the new card fees in effect abroad?
> >
> >What kinds of cards?
>
> credit cards
>
> http://tinyurl.com/kw5
>

If you read the article carefully, the fees already exist and are not new.
Currency conversion is nice way for credit card companies to make a little
money.

alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 16:42:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00622
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 16:42:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7AAFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:51:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12797649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 22:57:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g672vJZ04179 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:57:19 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A94307F76; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 19:56:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707025646.A94307F76@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:56:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest Items
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020706194508.00a53ef0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 6, 2002  7:48:35 pm"

Betty said:
> I don't think so but  I don't know how that part of it works.  Honey Pot's
> mug was still available and that was up there for a couple of years he
> said.  HoneyPot isn't right, is it? List Honey, I mean.  LOL

LOL indeed.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 16:50:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00642
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 16:50:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7AF59@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:59:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12800447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 23:05:18 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6735IZ05985 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:05:18 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws143-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.143]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6735GQ21340
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:05:16 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D27AFE7.2763BD85@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:05:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Was there pizza in Princeton in '47?
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 16:51:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00649
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 16:51:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7AFFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:01:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12797566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 23:06:02 -0400
Received: from ms4.lga2.nytimes.com ([64.15.247.148]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g672tuZ04020 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:56:02 -0400
Received: from email5.lga2.nytimes.com (email5 [10.0.0.170]) by
          ms4.lga2.nytimes.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C89C55A474 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat,  6 Jul 2002 22:59:45 -0400 (EDT)
Received: by email5.lga2.nytimes.com (Postfix,
          from userid 202) id 3412158A4D; Sat,  6 Jul 2002 22:52:50 -0400 (EDT)
Errors-To: articles-email@ms1.lga2.nytimes.com
Message-ID:  <20020707025250.3412158A4D@email5.lga2.nytimes.com>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:52:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: plotkina@YAHOO.COM
Subject:      NYTimes.com Article: New Card Fees in Effect Abroad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

This article from NYTimes.com
has been sent to you by plotkina@yahoo.com.


Enjoy maybe twice!

plotkina@yahoo.com


New Card Fees in Effect Abroad

July 7, 2002
By SUSAN STELLIN






TRAVELERS headed abroad have long assumed that when paying
for hotel rooms, rental cars or pasta dinners, they could
get the best foreign exchange rate by using a credit card.

That is still generally true, but often-hidden fees that
credit card issuers now charge customers when converting
foreign currency into dollars have made paying with plastic
less advantageous than before.

Over the last few years, it has become common for banks
that issue credit cards to charge a 2 percent fee on
purchases made in foreign currencies; that is in addition
to the 1 percent Visa and MasterCard have charged since the
1980's for converting foreign currency.

These so-called "foreign currency conversion fees" are
generally not listed on customers' bills, sparking
complaints from consumers as word has spread about the
practice; at least two lawsuits are now working their way
through the courts.

Dennis Stewart, a lawyer who is trying one of the cases in
Oakland, Calif., said the fees violate several laws,
including the federal Truth in Lending Act, which governs
what information must be disclosed to consumers about
credit cards.

"That statute requires that finance charges and transaction
charges have to be disclosed in solicitations and in
cardholder billing statements," said Mr. Stewart, who works
for the law firm Milberg Weiss in San Diego. This charge,
he added, has not typically been disclosed in that manner.

The suit in Oakland, brought by an individual, seeks to
require the card issuers to disclose the fee on
solicitations and billing statements, and to refund fees
paid in the last four years by California customers. Mr.
Stewart expects the case to continue at least through the
summer.

Instead of listing these charges on customers' bills, most
card issuers mention the fee only in the fine print of the
cardholder agreements they send customers from time to time
- the small brochures most people toss out or file away
without taking time to read through all the legal jargon.

So consumers who have not read the fine print would not
necessarily notice any additional fee had been applied to
purchases made abroad; banks generally just list the price
in the foreign currency and the final dollar amount charged
on the bill.

"You don't know that what happened was that there was an
exchange rate applied, plus the currency conversion
charge," Mr. Stewart said.

As a result, travelers headed abroad are advised to check
with their credit card issuer to find out whether it
charges any currency conversion fees - and if possible, use
a card that either assesses a lower fee or none at all.

Fees Are Fairly Standard

But most of the top consumer
card issuers now charge a fairly standard 2 percent fee, in
addition to the 1 percent fee levied by Visa and
MasterCard. These include, among others, Citibank, First
USA, Chase, Providian Financial Corporation and Bank of
America.

Colin Baptie, a spokesman for Visa International, said it
charges card issuers a 1 percent fee for processing the
transaction through computer networks, and that banks can
choose to pass this fee on to customers (most do). Bank
representatives generally attributed the 2 percent fees
they charge to expenses associated with foreign
transactions, such as allowing customers abroad to call
collect if they have a problem.

The fact that so many banks have settled on a similar fee
is at issue in a class-action lawsuit Mr. Stewart has also
brought against the banks and the Visa and MasterCard
networks; he is trying this case in federal court in New
York. In addition to disclosure violations, that suit also
alleges price fixing and collusion among the banks and the
credit card networks.

Among the major credit card issuers, MBNA is one of the few
companies that have not adopted the additional 2 percent
foreign currency charge. "We pass along Visa or
MasterCard's fee but we don't add any fees of our own,"
said Jim Donahue, a spokesman for MBNA, which primarily
issues affinity credit cards on behalf of universities,
professional organizations and other groups. Similarly,
Capital One passes along to its customers only the 1
percent fee Visa and MasterCard charge and does not tack on
its own fee.

Playing the Percentages

For travelers who spend a lot abroad or are looking to save
a few dollars, paying with an American Express or Diners
Club card is another option. American Express charges a 2
percent foreign currency conversion fee, which a
spokeswoman, Judy Tenzer, said was an increase from the 1
percent fee levied until 1999. Diners Club also charges a 2
percent currency conversion fee.

Another motive for shopping around may be choosing a credit
card company that itemizes or at least displays a total
currency conversion charge on its bills.

Chase, Bank of America and U.S. Bank are three credit card
issuers that do list their foreign currency charges on
bills, so customers can see how much they have been
charged. But most banks still simply subtract these fees
without itemizing them on the bill.

"I have my current Visa bill in front of me and there's no
fee specified for conversion charges," said Matt Brodlie, a
senior vice president at Miramax Films in Los Angeles, who
says that he travels abroad about 10 times a year,
primarily for work. He generally uses a Visa card issued by
First USA in conjunction with United Airlines's Mileage
Plus program, and said he remembers receiving a notice
earlier this year about the currency conversion charge.
(First USA did not respond to several calls seeking
comment.)

In fact, First USA started charging the conversion fee on
its Mileage Plus Visa card only this spring, as I
discovered when I used the card overseas recently, and was
the last credit card affiliated with a frequent flier
program to do so.

Travelers who use credit cards affiliated with airline
mileage programs can either resign themselves to paying the
fee or switch to a card that does not accrue frequent-flier
miles. United's First USA Visa card, American's Citi
AAdvantage card, Northwest's U.S. Bank Visa card and US
Airways' Bank of America Visa card all charge a 3 percent
fee for foreign currency conversion, while Delta's American
Express card levies a 2 percent charge.

Despite these fees, paying with a credit card is still
typically a better option for travelers making purchases
abroad than using traveler's checks or exchanging cash. In
some cases, withdrawing cash in the local currency from an
A.T.M. might provide a slight savings, but it depends on
the fees charged by your bank and the local bank - and
carrying a lot of cash has its own drawbacks.

David Robertson, publisher of a newsletter about consumer
payment systems called The Nilson Report, said that for
most people the difference in service charges between using
a credit card and withdrawing cash in the local currency
from an A.T.M. is not that great. And, he said, if you make
purchases abroad with a credit card, you can more easily
dispute transactions later on.

SUSAN STELLIN writes frequently for The
Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/travel/07PRAC.html?ex=1027010370&ei=1&en=e0bc8b6da76d02cb



HOW TO ADVERTISE
---------------------------------
For information on advertising in e-mail newsletters
or other creative advertising opportunities with The
New York Times on the Web, please contact
onlinesales@nytimes.com or visit our online media
kit at http://www.nytimes.com/adinfo

For general information about NYTimes.com, write to
help@nytimes.com.

Copyright 2002 The New York Times Company

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 16:52:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00653
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 16:52:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7B06D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:02:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 23:07:56 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6737uZ06437 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:07:56 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws143-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.143]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6737sQ21679
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:07:54 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207062025040.26539-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D27B085.3774323F@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:07:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >> Now this is what retiring but not really retiring leads to - presumptious
> >> behavior!
> >
> >?  What does it have to do with retiring but not really retiring?
>
> I don't think you would understand.

You're getting as bad as Karen.  No, I don't understand, which is why I
asked the question.  As I've said before, I'm not retiring from all
associations with MSU.  I know very few retirees who just vanish from
campus, unless they move to a faraway place.  And even those come back
to visit.  I don't understand at all your thoughts about retirement
meaning severing all connections with the place you've worked all those
years.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 16:54:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00657
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 16:54:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7B079@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:03:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 23:09:08 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67397Z06532 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:09:08 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws143-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.143]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g67395Q21774
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:09:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207062025520.26539-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D27B0CC.D9B8C62C@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:09:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >Talk about funny questions -- yours was what I'd call downright
> >bizarre.  I said that I don't buy videotapes, and your response to that
> >was "do you steal them?"
>
> No - that was not my response. That was PART of my response.
>
> <Never mind.>

Yes, Karen.  But it was all of your response, iirc.  Because it's past
my bedtime, I'm not going to bother to check the archives.  But I
believe your response was that single question.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 16:54:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00661
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 16:54:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7B086@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:04:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 23:09:47 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6739lZ06583 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:09:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws143-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.143]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6739iQ21879
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:09:44 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207062026580.26539-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D27B0F3.275EFDA0@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:09:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> Ummm ... I wonder how you acquire the blanks for taping. Or do you tape
> over those that you have acqured mysteriously neither by buying nor
> stealing?

?  I said I can't imagine wanting to buy taped movies.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 16:55:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00665
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 16:55:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FB3E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:10:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 23:10:42 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g673AgZ06687 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:10:42 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws143-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.143]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g673AeQ21934
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:10:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706012757.B993F7FFF@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D264C79.AA92ED7B@maynor.net> <3D2664D0.705E7BBC@valstar.net>
            <4.2.2.20020706062537.00a3e690@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D26F311.4F39E9A2@maynor.net>
            <3D279558.564EFDA8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D27B12B.D89AA380@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:10:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

John Williams wrote:

>     Just remember, you'll never marry anyone you watch "Casablanca" with...

I can't remember whether I've ever watched it with another human being.
(I know I've watched it with dogs.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 17:02:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00678
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 17:02:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7B0DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:12:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 23:17:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g673HTZ07206 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:17:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws143-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.143]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g673HQQ22808
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:17:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D27AFE7.2763BD85@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D27B2C2.AAA681C0@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:17:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Probably it was.

|An Italian immigrant named Gennaro Lombardi opened the first U.S.
pizzeria in |1895 in New York City.
from: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/5353/pizza/history.html

I don't think it made it to Mississippi right away, though.  I first
remember pizza (which we then called "pizza pie") in the early '50s.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 17:09:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00685
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 17:09:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7B104@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:18:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 23:24:23 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g673ONZ07710 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:24:23 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g673OLHE017506 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:24:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020706163716.00a23910@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020706165208.00a37aa0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020706202342.00a5c6a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:24:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <006701c22561$163f5560$b60ff243@computer>

At 10:50 PM 7/6/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >Did you read about the new card fees in effect abroad?
> > >
> > >What kinds of cards?
> >
> > credit cards
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/kw5
> >
>
>If you read the article carefully, the fees already exist and are not new.
>Currency conversion is nice way for credit card companies to make a little
>money.
>
>alec

I just wanted to give Bethany something else to worry about.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 17:10:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00692
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 17:10:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7B10C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:19:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 23:25:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g673PCZ07783 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:25:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 724918117; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 20:25:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707032511.724918117@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:25:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D27AFE7.2763BD85@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 6,
              2002 10: 5:11 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Was there pizza in Princeton in '47?

Why not? It came to the US around the turn of the century, I think.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 17:11:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00700
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 17:11:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FB457@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:26:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801761 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 23:26:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g673QUZ07892 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:26:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 82BE6814C; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 20:26:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707032629.82BE6814C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:26:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D27B085.3774323F@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 6,
              2002 10: 7:49 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> You're getting as bad as Karen.  No, I don't understand, which is why I
> asked the question.

But you still don't understand, even when the question is answered. So
why bother?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 17:13:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00713
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 17:13:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7B118@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:23:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 23:28:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g673SdZ08080 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:28:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D6134811B; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 20:28:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707032838.D6134811B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:28:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D27B2C2.AAA681C0@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 6,
              2002 10:17:22 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Probably it was.
>
> |An Italian immigrant named Gennaro Lombardi opened the first U.S.
> pizzeria in |1895 in New York City.
> from: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/5353/pizza/history.html

Interesting--another website puts that date ten years later.

> I don't think it made it to Mississippi right away, though.  I first
> remember pizza (which we then called "pizza pie") in the early '50s.

I remember a restaurant in Kirksville that talked about spaghetti as
being a foreign food that they imported.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 17:16:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00722
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 17:16:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7B127@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:26:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 23:31:36 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g673VZZ08251 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:31:35 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020707033130.FWHF6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 03:31:30 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGECAFPAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:33:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest Items
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020707025646.A94307F76@yellow.rahul.net>

> > said.  HoneyPot isn't right, is it? List Honey, I mean.  LOL
>
> LOL indeed.:)
>
> Karen

*glare* to both of you!

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 17:16:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00726
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 17:16:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7B128@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:26:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 23:31:43 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g673VhZ08259 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:31:43 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020707033137.WAGW8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 03:31:37 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D27AFE7.2763BD85@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020706202118.01fc0cc0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:28:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D27B2C2.AAA681C0@maynor.net>

Natalie Maynor writes,

>An Italian immigrant named Gennaro Lombardi opened the first U.S.
>pizzeria in 1895 in New York City.

Other sites say Lombardi immigrated in 1895, and opened the restaurant in
1905; e.g.: <http://cgi.sacbee.com/travel/bigticket/lombardi.html>.  (The
review says the pizza there is still very good. :)

Anyway, some reviewers also felt it was probably an anachronism in the
movie: <http://www.the-buzz.com/beautiful.html>
<http://www.jamesbowman.net/review.asp?pubID=901>.

Didja see the Tupperware?  The Nuk pacifier?  The recycled symbol?
<http://us.imdb.com/Goofs?0268978> :)

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 17:18:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00730
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 17:18:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7B12C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:27:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 23:33:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g673XEZ08357 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:33:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B3C678155; Sat,  6
          Jul 2002 20:33:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707033313.B3C678155@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:33:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest Items
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGECAFPAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 6, 2002 11:33:55 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> > > said.  HoneyPot isn't right, is it? List Honey, I mean.  LOL
> >
> > LOL indeed.:)
> >
> > Karen
>
> *glare* to both of you!

I think it's kind of sweet, if misguided. And besides, you *are* a
honey, whether it's a ListHoney or a Honey Pot (how Pooh-ish).

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 17:20:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00734
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 17:20:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7B133@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:29:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Jul
          2002 23:35:19 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g673ZJZ08486 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:35:19 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g673ZIHE021896 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:35:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020707025646.A94307F76@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020706203438.00a414d0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:35:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest Items
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGECAFPAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

At 11:33 PM 7/6/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > > said.  HoneyPot isn't right, is it? List Honey, I mean.  LOL
> >
> > LOL indeed.:)
> >
> > Karen
>
>*glare* to both of you!

You know we love you, Adam.

I'm going to go see Mamma Mia tomorrow.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 22:20:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00999
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 31 May 1960 22:20:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7C146@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 4:29:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 04:35:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g678Z0Z04628 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 04:35:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 69CBD7E9E; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 01:34:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707083459.69CBD7E9E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 01:34:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Speaking of Albert Brooks...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I taped "Mother" last night; I'd never heard of it before (though
someone may have mentioned it in the recent AB discussion). It's
amazingly good.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 00:25:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01163
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 00:25:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7CC2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 6:34:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 06:39:55 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67ATtZ11047 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 06:29:55 -0400
Received: from mercie.pel.cz (mercie.pel.cz [195.128.209.217]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g67ATqZ01388; Sun, 7
          Jul 2002 06:29:53 -0400
X-Authentication-Warning: pasta.cc.uga.edu: mercie.pel.cz [195.128.209.217]
                         didn't use HELO protocol
Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by 3194VE2U.uga.cc.uga.edu with SMTP for
          zman@uga.cc.uga.edu; Sun, 07 Jul 2002 06:27:19 -0500
Importance: Normal
X-Encoding: MIME
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-Sender: utahcca.bitnet@uga.cc.uga.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <4DHEUI3I9E.7TMV2H8GNR5L6HAB7H.utahcca.bitnet@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 06:27:19 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: utahcca.bitnet@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
Subject:      Lowest Mortgage Rates Around
Comments: To: zman@uga.cc.uga.edu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

We will help you get the mortgage loan you want!

Only takes 2 minutes to fill out our form.
http://211.163.194.36/st/index.php

Whether a new home loan is what you seek or to refinance your current home =
loan
at a lower interest rate and payment, we can help!

Mortgage rates haven't been this low in the last 12 months, take action now!
Refinance your home with us and include all of those pesky credit card bills =
or
use the extra cash for that pool you've always wanted...

Where others says NO, we say YES!!!
Even if you have been turned down elsewhere, we can help!

Easy terms! Our mortgage referral service combines the
highest quality loans with most economical rates and the easiest =
qualification!

Click Here to fill out our form.
http://211.163.194.36/st/index.php

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 01:26:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01227
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 01:26:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7D64C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 7:35:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12790587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 07:41:21 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67BVKZ15214 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:31:20 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g67BVJOI015577 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:31:19 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207070730100.28833-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:31:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D27B085.3774323F@maynor.net>

On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>You're getting as bad as Karen.  No, I don't understand, which is why I
>asked the question.  As I've said before, I'm not retiring from all
>associations with MSU.  I know very few retirees who just vanish from
>campus, unless they move to a faraway place.  And even those come back
>to visit.  I don't understand at all your thoughts about retirement
>meaning severing all connections with the place you've worked all those
>years.

Natalie, I have never suggested that one should "sever all
connections." Let's just consider it a failed joke, okay?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 01:27:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01234
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 01:27:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7D67E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 7:37:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12790598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 07:42:41 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67BWfZ15308 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:32:41 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g67BWeOI015824 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:32:41 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207070731430.28833-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:32:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D27B0CC.D9B8C62C@maynor.net>

On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> >Talk about funny questions -- yours was what I'd call downright
>> >bizarre.  I said that I don't buy videotapes, and your response to that
>> >was "do you steal them?"
>>
>> No - that was not my response. That was PART of my response.
>>
>> <Never mind.>
>
>Yes, Karen.  But it was all of your response, iirc.  Because it's past
>my bedtime, I'm not going to bother to check the archives.  But I
>believe your response was that single question.

No, it was not all of my response. It's the part you chose to focus on. I
first asked HOW you acquired tapes - i.e., I asked the question that you
still have not asnwered.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 01:28:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01238
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 01:28:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7D69A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 7:38:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12790624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 07:43:37 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67BXbZ15387 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:33:37 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g67BXaOI015978 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:33:36 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207070732590.28833-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:33:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D27B0F3.275EFDA0@maynor.net>

On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> Ummm ... I wonder how you acquire the blanks for taping. Or do you tape
>> over those that you have acqured mysteriously neither by buying nor
>> stealing?
>
>?  I said I can't imagine wanting to buy taped movies.

Then I missed that message. I read your question, "Why would I want to buy
a tape?"

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 01:45:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01265
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 01:45:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7D8FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 7:54:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12790904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 08:00:14 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67C0EZ17098 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 08:00:14 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws52-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.52]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g67C0BQ19918
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:00:12 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707032629.82BE6814C@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D282D30.A1FEDD5E@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 06:59:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > You're getting as bad as Karen.  No, I don't understand, which is why I
> > asked the question.
>
> But you still don't understand, even when the question is answered. So
> why bother?

It is a very good thing that you left the teaching field.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 01:49:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01269
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 01:49:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7D979@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 7:59:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12790936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 08:04:24 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67C4OZ17333 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 08:04:24 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws52-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.52]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g67C4MQ20443
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:04:22 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207070731430.28833-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D282E40.BB846C28@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:04:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> No, it was not all of my response. It's the part you chose to focus on. I

Nope, it was the entirety of your posting, except for an extra question
mark:

******************
Date:         Sat, 6 Jul 2002 08:30:10 -0400
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets

On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>to my question, but it's still an answer).  I just don't understand why
>people buy tapes -- or at least tapes of things like movies -- I can
>understand buying certain kinds of tapes -- like if there were a tape
>for sale of the whole Nagano opening ceremonies, I might be interested
>in buying it.  And I bought a tape in New Zealand of various scenery --
>but must admit that I've watched it only once.

So do you steal them instead?

?

Bethany
*****************

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 01:53:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01321
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 01:53:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FBFDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 8:08:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12790994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 08:08:35 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67C8ZZ17666 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 08:08:35 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws52-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.52]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g67C8XQ21195
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:08:33 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D27AFE7.2763BD85@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020706202118.01fc0cc0@mail.istori.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D282F3B.BC981FB9@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:08:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Kaminski wrote:

> Didja see the Tupperware?  The Nuk pacifier?  The recycled symbol?

I did notice the Tupperware.  I'm not usually one to pay much attention
to anachronisms, but for some reason that did catch my eye -- or at
least something that appeared to be Tupperware.  Maybe it was because
the pizza comment had already caught my ear.  It may well be that there
was pizza in Princeton in '47, but my feeling still is that the way he
mentioned it as if beer and pizza were the <typical> college refreshment
of the time struck me as anachronistic.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 02:18:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01355
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 02:18:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FC050@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 8:33:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12791240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 08:32:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67CWWZ19101 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 08:32:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 34E657E9E; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 05:32:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707123232.34E657E9E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 05:32:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D282D30.A1FEDD5E@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  6:59:44 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > You're getting as bad as Karen.  No, I don't understand, which is why I
> > > asked the question.
> >
> > But you still don't understand, even when the question is answered. So
> > why bother?
>
> It is a very good thing that you left the teaching field.

I know you think you're insulting me, but that's pretty much a non
sequitur, as far as I can see. I have no particular expertise to share
wrt repeated viewing of videotapes, and no real interest in espousing
a particular point of view. When I was teaching, both of those
situations were different. And frankly, I never came across a student
as uninterested in learning as you seem to be.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 03:11:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02423
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 03:11:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FC160@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 9:26:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12792073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 09:26:29 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67DQTZ22726 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 09:26:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 86ECA7FB8; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 06:26:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707132628.86ECA7FB8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 06:26:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The Tour de France started yesterday, and the local paper had a
special section on Lance Armstrong and the tour. One article on his
training techniques mentions that a chiropractor travels with him, and
that this guy uses 'a special athletic technique developed by the
Japanese to keep body aches, specifically tendinitis, at bay.'

Does anyone have any idea what he's talking about?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 03:24:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02837
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 03:24:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7ECA9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 9:34:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12792452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 09:39:30 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67DdUZ23990 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 09:39:30 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.35]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYVSK301.9QJ for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 06:38:27 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706012757.B993F7FFF@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D264C79.AA92ED7B@maynor.net> <3D2664D0.705E7BBC@valstar.net>
            <4.2.2.20020706062537.00a3e690@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D26F311.4F39E9A2@maynor.net>
            <3D279558.564EFDA8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
            <3D27B12B.D89AA380@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28447B.8AA5AC3B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 06:39:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> John Williams wrote:
>
> >     Just remember, you'll never marry anyone you watch "Casablanca" with...
>
> I can't remember whether I've ever watched it with another human being.
> (I know I've watched it with dogs.)

    I forgot to add, "for the first time."

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 04:06:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02874
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 04:06:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7F11D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 10:15:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12793096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 10:20:56 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67EKtZ26740 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 10:20:55 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020707142050.FNOQ903.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:20:50 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707070338.01f83130@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:16:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020707132628.86ECA7FB8@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen Kay writes,

>Does anyone have any idea what he's talking about?

Maybe Kinesio Taping <http://www.kinesiotaping.com/>.  Jeff Spencer
mentions it here:
<http://www.ridefast.com/ctscafe/memberjournals/jeffspencer/upheaval.htm>.
Make sure to also read about stretching on the same site:
<http://www.ridefast.com/ctscafe/memberjournals/jeffspencer/stretching.htm>.

Google finds "tendinitis" on one page within the KT site:
<http://www.kinesiotaping.com/education/peripheral_blood_flow.htm>.

Spencer is also a lampworker (specialized glassblower); this is a pretty
cool interview with him about it:
<http://www.mickelsenstudios.com/articles/spencer.htm>.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 04:08:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02881
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 04:08:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7F157@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 10:17:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12793151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 10:22:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67EMnZ26875 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 10:22:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 939D67D51; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 07:22:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707142248.939D67D51@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:22:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707070338.01f83130@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Jul 7, 2002  7:16:18 am"

Peter Kaminski said:
> Karen Kay writes,
>
> >Does anyone have any idea what he's talking about?
>
> Maybe Kinesio Taping <http://www.kinesiotaping.com/>.

How did you find this?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 04:12:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02885
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 04:12:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FC293@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 10:27:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12793191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 10:27:23 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67ERNZ27197 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 10:27:23 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws60-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.60]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g67ERLQ05053
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 09:27:21 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707123232.34E657E9E@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D284FC3.CD6F6743@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 09:27:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > > But you still don't understand, even when the question is answered. So
> > > why bother?
> >
> > It is a very good thing that you left the teaching field.
>
> I know you think you're insulting me, but that's pretty much a non
> sequitur, as far as I can see. I have no particular expertise to share
> wrt repeated viewing of videotapes, and no real interest in espousing

My point wasn't specifically to insult you, although that might be a
side effect.  Some people really aren't cut out for teaching.  They
don't have the patience to try to explain something to somebody who
doesn't catch on right away.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 04:24:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03174
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 04:24:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7F2D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 10:33:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12793311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 10:39:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67EdHZ27953 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 10:39:17 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1D33D7DB5; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 07:39:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707143917.1D33D7DB5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:39:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707070338.01f83130@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Jul 7, 2002  7:16:18 am"

Peter Kaminski said:
> Karen Kay writes,
> >Does anyone have any idea what he's talking about?
>
> Maybe Kinesio Taping <http://www.kinesiotaping.com/>.

Aha! This is very cool, odd stuff. As Spencer says, "In my view it is
a brilliant technique and is a must for all professionals to know
because it promotes healing at the same time it supports an unstable
area."

Bethany needs this.:)

(Spencer mentions patellofemoral syndrome, and that's what was in
the back of my mind when Bethany was talking about her knee, but I
couldn't remember the word.)

> Make sure to also read about stretching on the same site:
> <http://www.ridefast.com/ctscafe/memberjournals/jeffspencer/stretching.htm>.

Very nice.

> Spencer is also a lampworker (specialized glassblower); this is a pretty
> cool interview with him about it:
> <http://www.mickelsenstudios.com/articles/spencer.htm>.

Interesting. He also has a rather schlocky (IMHO) home page at
http://www.metagenics.com. (I was trying to figure out if he lived in
LA or Austin.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 04:25:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03181
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 04:25:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7F2F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 10:34:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12793391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 10:40:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67Ee2Z28204 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 10:40:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A7AD77DF8; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707144001.A7AD77DF8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:40:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D284FC3.CD6F6743@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  9:27:15 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> My point wasn't specifically to insult you, although that might be a
> side effect.  Some people really aren't cut out for teaching.  They
> don't have the patience to try to explain something to somebody who
> doesn't catch on right away.

Uh-huh. Well, I can safely say that I know I'm not cut out to teach
unwilling students solely through e-mail.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 04:49:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03233
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 04:49:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7F6A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 10:59:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12793723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 11:04:34 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67EsYZ29356 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 10:54:34 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g67EsXOI008858 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 10:54:33 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207071053060.1906-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 10:54:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D282E40.BB846C28@maynor.net>

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
>> No, it was not all of my response. It's the part you chose to focus on. I
>
>Nope, it was the entirety of your posting, except for an extra question
>mark:
>

Well, if you say so. So, let me rephrase that - "If you do not purchase
them, how do you acquire them? Do you perhaps steal them?" Actually, I no
longer care -

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 05:09:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03253
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 05:09:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7FE47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 11:18:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12794280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 11:24:00 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67FO0Z31477 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 11:24:00 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust250.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.252]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003742256@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 11:24:00 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706162935.19F6D8033@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2770BD.789CA0EB@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D285D76.3471BDA7@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 11:25:42 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: TV Setse
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> What sheep in what mattresses?
>
Thank you, Natalie, for making my dream come true.

alyce


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 05:11:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03260
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 05:11:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E7FF99@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 11:21:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12794323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 11:26:35 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67FQYZ31710 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 11:26:34 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust250.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.252]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003742280@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 11:26:34 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020706225822.68348805F@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D285E0E.632D0AFD@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 11:28:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>  b) covers up the pkg,

With what?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 05:13:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03267
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 05:13:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8001D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 11:22:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12794363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 11:27:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67FRrZ31829 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 11:27:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A4F5C8195; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 08:27:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707152743.A4F5C8195@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 08:27:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D285E0E.632D0AFD@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 7,
              2002 11:28:14 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >  b) covers up the pkg,
>
> With what?

I have a doormat.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 05:41:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03315
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 05:41:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FC53A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 11:56:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12795038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 11:56:37 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67FuaZ01886 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 11:56:37 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust250.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.252]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003742603@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 11:56:36 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D27AFE7.2763BD85@maynor.net> <3D27B2C2.AAA681C0@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28651A.39938DB9@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 11:58:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> I don't think it made it to Mississippi right away, though.  I first
> remember pizza (which we then called "pizza pie") in the early '50s.

Just Friday there was a program about pizza history and its coming to
America on the History Channel. It was way interesting. Pizza began in
ancient Rome. The ingredients were sold as a rather messy snack at the
Coliseum and then someone got the idea of putting it onto some firm
dough so that people could hang onto it more easily. Pizza has undergone
many changes over the centuries in texture, content, looks, size.

I think I have said before that I encountered the word "pizza" on a sign
when I just was learning to read. I asked my mother what that word was
and she said, "It's foreign and you wouldn't like it." It goes without
saying that she never had had a pizza and just had an attitude. When I
was in college (1951), pizzas seemed to come into their own and I had
one. Loved it and invited my parents to come to try one. They were very
fearful of eating this foreign food, but were pleasantly surprised. They
were midwestern eaters of plain and wholesome food, and this experience
opened up entire new vistas for them. When I got my own apartment after
college, I knew nothing about cooking, so I started to read and learned
of herbs and spices. I told my mother about these,  and she bought a
spice shelf and started to use these exotic foreign substances. This,
after over 25 years in the kitchen. Before that, her seasonings were
salt and pepper. Only. Despite this, she was a great cook and there is
no one who has been able to duplicate her chocolate cake, even though we
have the recipe.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 05:54:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03334
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 05:54:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E807AE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 12:03:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12795564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 12:09:21 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67G9LZ03100 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:09:21 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust250.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.252]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005050976@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 12:09:20 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707143917.1D33D7DB5@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D286816.EA95081D@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:11:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > >Does anyone have any idea what he's talking about?

This reminds me to mention what I forgot to say yesterday. CNN had a
whole long series on "holistic health," and one of the segments was on
Pilates. They had a woman doing some of the exercises while a man
described the system. All very interesting, especially his statement
that private lessons cost $75 a pop. That being the case, Karen, why are
you not teaching Pilates?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 05:58:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03341
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 05:58:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80831@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 12:07:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12795632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 12:13:16 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67GDGZ03462 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:13:16 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust250.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.252]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005051025@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 12:13:16 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D286902.683E8E99@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:14:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Netscape FAQs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Do y'all know that there is an unofficial Netscape FAQ site?
Answers lots of things one needs to know but cannot find out elsewhere.

http://www.ufaq.org

other clues are here:

http://home.adelphia.net/~sremick/ns6faq.html
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 06:39:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03391
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 06:39:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80970@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 12:48:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12796484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 12:53:49 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67GrnZ06535 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:53:49 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020707165343.VTUZ15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:53:43 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707070338.01f83130@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707093625.022e3c40@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 09:49:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020707142248.939D67D51@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen Kay writes,

>How did you find this?

Google, and a bit of surfing. :)

>Aha! This is very cool, odd stuff.

It does sound cool (albeit a little over my head).

>Interesting. He also has a rather schlocky (IMHO) home page at
>http://www.metagenics.com.

Yeah, I was hopeful when I saw the title "Dr. Jeff Spencer - home page" pop
up in Google, but it's not really a home page, just a rather schlocky bio
page in the Metagenics seminar series.

Spencer is out of Grants Pass, OR.  This is the talk that would have been
fun to attend: <http://www.mailtribune.com/archive/2000/january/12100s2.htm>.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 06:48:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03429
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 06:48:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E809BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 12:57:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12796738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 13:02:59 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67H2xZ07344 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:02:59 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW003AG20YA8@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 12:02:58 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207062216040.27024-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D2873EA.3060109@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:01:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: NYTimes.com Article: The New Retirement Comes in Four
              Financial Flavors - extract
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

What *is* it with Baby Boomers.  Why can't they just accept
that they haven't invented every GD little thing?  The "new"
this, the "new" that.  Nothing new about it except an
enormous generation doing it all en masse and believing
they're the first.  As if nobody else in the history of the
world has ever wanted to travel after age 64.

Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> The New Retirement Comes in Four Financial Flavors
> July 7, 2002 By FRED BROCK
>
> A recent study of current retirees by Harris Interactive and Dr. Ken
> Dychtwald, an author and gerontologist, has identified four main types of
> retirees - the "four faces of retirement," as it calls them. The study was
> sponsored by AIG SunAmerica, a financial services company that is a
> subsidiary of the American International Group.
> ....
> THE AGELESS EXPLORERS These retirees represent 27 percent of those
> surveyed and are the leaders in creating a new definition of
> retirement. They see themselves in an exciting new phase of life and would
> rather be too busy than risk being bored. They have the highest level of
> education and have saved for 24 years, on average, for retirement. They
> have an average household income of $64,800 and an average net worth of
> $469,800.
>
> THE COMFORTABLY CONTENTS This group (19 percent) aims to live the
> traditional retirement life of leisure; its members aren't as interested
> in work or contributing to society. They have saved, on average, for 23
> years and spend their time on travel or other recreational
> activities. Their average income is $61,200; their average net worth is
> $367,500.
>
> THE LIVE FOR TODAYS These people (22 percent) aspire to be Ageless
> Explorers and may be even more interested in personal growth and
> reinvention. But they have always focused on the present and didn't devote
> much time to retirement planning - having saved for only 18 years, on
> average. They have a great deal of anxiety about their finances and are
> likely to continue working during retirement. Average income is $46,300,
> and average net worth is $222,600.
>
> THE SICK AND TIREDS The largest of the four groups - 32 percent - its
> members are in the worst circumstances. They are less educated, have fewer
> financial resources and have low expectations for the future. They are
> more likely to\ have been forced into retirement by poor health and are
> less likely to travel, participate in community events or tap into their
> potential. They have saved for, on average, just 16 years; average income
> is $31,900 and average net worth is $161,200.
>
> etc.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/business/yourmoney/07SENI.html?ex=1027007953&ei=1&en=11d5ccce8d7173df
>
> Bethany
>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 06:53:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03436
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 06:53:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E809DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 13:02:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12796880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 13:08:09 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67H89Z07801 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:08:09 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW007X129K24@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 12:08:08 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020707123232.34E657E9E@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D284FC3.CD6F6743@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D287520.20502@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:06:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:


> My point wasn't specifically to insult you, although that might be a
> side effect.  Some people really aren't cut out for teaching.  They
> don't have the patience to try to explain something to somebody who
> doesn't catch on right away.
>


        An important teaching skill is intuiting when a student
really understands, but is pretending not to in order to
fill another agenda, such as postponing other work, getting
attention, being a pita, etc.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 07:09:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03480
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 07:09:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FC7B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 13:24:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12797240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 13:24:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67HOCZ09015 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:24:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 994D17D00; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 10:24:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707172410.994D17D00@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 10:24:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D286816.EA95081D@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 7,
              2002 12:11: 2 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> All very interesting, especially his statement
> that private lessons cost $75 a pop.

I've never paid that much, even in CA. The director of the Pilates
Center charges $80/hr, now, I think, and she's worth twice that. (I
get a certain amount of her attention for free because she likes me.)

I think I mentioned that the Pilates Center didn't charge for about 9
months of sessions. When I got laid off, I started working with
trainees, who charged $15/hr; now they charge $20.

> That being the case, Karen, why are
> you not teaching Pilates?

Because it costs $3-5000 to get certified. Also, the Pilates Center is
doing terribly--no one has spare money to spend on Pilates.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 07:14:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03487
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 07:14:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80A57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 13:24:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12797368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 13:29:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67HTRZ09539 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:29:28 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 30BE37C64; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 10:29:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707172927.30BE37C64@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 10:29:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707093625.022e3c40@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Jul 7, 2002  9:49:36 am"

Peter Kaminski said:
> Karen Kay writes,
> >How did you find this?
>
> Google, and a bit of surfing. :)

What did you google on? I googled and got no identifiable results.

> >Aha! This is very cool, odd stuff.
>
> It does sound cool (albeit a little over my head).

Oh. I think it's a very simple concept. For example, the usual way to
handle patellofemoral syndrome is to put a tight brace around the knee
below the kneecap--which does NOT encourage blood flow. The
kinesiotaping way more closely mimics actual knee architecture.

In fact,  I can think of all kinds of applications for people like me
that are not even injured but bilaterally asymmetric.

> >Interesting. He also has a rather schlocky (IMHO) home page at
> >http://www.metagenics.com.
>
> Yeah, I was hopeful when I saw the title "Dr. Jeff Spencer - home page" pop
> up in Google, but it's not really a home page, just a rather schlocky bio
> page in the Metagenics seminar series.

Even his appearance is different on that page.

> Spencer is out of Grants Pass, OR.  This is the talk that would have been
> fun to attend: <http://www.mailtribune.com/archive/2000/january/12100s2.htm>.

I'll check it out.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 07:21:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03499
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 07:21:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80A79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 13:30:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12797470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 13:36:20 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67HaKZ10014 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:36:20 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust250.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.252]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005052125@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 13:36:20 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707172927.30BE37C64@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D287C79.89BB2E87@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:38:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>>
> I'll check it out.

I started to google for Japanese chiropracty and came to this page that
is so charming I could not leave.

Natalie, it will remind you of your happy days in Japan if you can bring
yourself to click this URL:

http://www.neisd.net/isa/travel/taka2001/12.htm

alyce
--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 07:23:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03506
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 07:23:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80A92@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 13:32:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12797563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 13:38:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67HcHZ10276 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:38:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 428F27D02; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 10:38:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707173817.428F27D02@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 10:38:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28651A.39938DB9@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 7,
              2002 11:58:18 am"

alyce cresap said:
> I think I have said before that I encountered the word "pizza" on a sign
> when I just was learning to read. I asked my mother what that word was
> and she said, "It's foreign and you wouldn't like it." It goes without
> saying that she never had had a pizza and just had an attitude. When I
> was in college (1951), pizzas seemed to come into their own and I had
> one. Loved it and invited my parents to come to try one. They were very
> fearful of eating this foreign food, but were pleasantly surprised. They
> were midwestern eaters of plain and wholesome food, and this experience
> opened up entire new vistas for them.

This is exactly what the back of the menu of this restaurant in
Kirksville described. Maybe because my mother was Californian and ate
different fruits and vegetables, I never encountered this except in my
father (whom I once made eggplant parmesan--he ate it with gusto till
he found out that it was eggplant). My father also never ate onions or
garlic.

> When I got my own apartment after
> college, I knew nothing about cooking, so I started to read and learned
> of herbs and spices. I told my mother about these,  and she bought a
> spice shelf and started to use these exotic foreign substances. This,
> after over 25 years in the kitchen. Before that, her seasonings were
> salt and pepper. Only.

This just amazes me.

> Despite this, she was a great cook and there is
> no one who has been able to duplicate her chocolate cake, even though we
> have the recipe.

I wonder why.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 07:30:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03523
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 07:30:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80AC9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 13:39:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12797703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 13:44:45 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67HijZ10839 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:44:45 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust250.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.252]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003743998@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 13:44:45 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707173817.428F27D02@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D287E72.24646574@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:46:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
 I wonder why.
>
I know why. The recipe is from my father's mother and it called for sour
milk. That is, old-time sour milk, not what we have now left out of the
refrigerator. My mother experimented over and over to find a substitute
and finally got it right with sour cream. However, she did not write
down how much sour cream to use. And therein lies the secret. The same
quantity of sour cream to sour milk is way wrong, and of course the
consistency of the two is totally different. Although the cakes she made
between the time that sour milk became unavailable (to a city dweller)
and her final solution, the cakes were always good, but just not _as
good_ as they were meant to be. I think it took her about three years to
get it right. That would be about 15-20 cakes. This cake was for special
occasions only. Birthdays, Father's Day, their wedding anniversary, etc.
I lust for this cake. Maybe in heaven?

alyce

--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 07:30:30 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@[204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03517
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 07:29:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12942
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:33:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80AAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 13:36:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12797624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 13:41:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67HfZZ10510 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:41:35 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A9FE47D0F; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 10:41:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707174134.A9FE47D0F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 10:41:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D287C79.89BB2E87@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 7,
              2002  1:38: 1 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >>
> > I'll check it out.
>
> I started to google for Japanese chiropracty and came to this page that
> is so charming I could not leave.
>
> Natalie, it will remind you of your happy days in Japan if you can bring
> yourself to click this URL:
>
> http://www.neisd.net/isa/travel/taka2001/12.htm

<sob!> Natsukashii!! I spent many, many weekends in Takayama. It's a charming
place.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 07:32:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03530
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 07:32:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80AF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 13:42:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12797822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 13:47:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67HlWZ11182 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:47:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D231F7D02; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 10:47:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707174731.D231F7D02@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 10:47:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D287E72.24646574@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 7,
              2002  1:46:26 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> I lust for this cake. Maybe in heaven?

:)

I've never been able to make good cakes from scratch under any
circumstances.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 07:40:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03549
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 07:40:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80B1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 13:50:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12797728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 13:55:25 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67HjPZ10931 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:45:25 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0FB27843 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun,  7 Jul 2002 12:45:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g67HjOe35352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:45:24
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207062216040.27024-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D2873EA.3060109@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020707124524.C35016@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:45:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: NYTimes.com Article: The New Retirement Comes in Four
              Financial Flavors - extract
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2873EA.3060109@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Sun,
              Jul 07, 2002 at 12:01:30PM -0500

On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 12:01:30PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
> What *is* it with Baby Boomers.

Kindly calm down "Rita". It is just a small percentage making the
most noise.

>                                  Why can't they just accept
> that they haven't invented every GD little thing?  The "new"
> this, the "new" that.  Nothing new about it except an
> enormous generation doing it all en masse and believing
> they're the first.  As if nobody else in the history of the
> world has ever wanted to travel after age 64.

Please stop being so resentful and focus on the main issue: people
who inaugurate an exciting new phase of life really need to reverse
this innovation ASAP. It's sucking. The other day I again saw some
guy reading "How to kick ass over your competitors and get ahead
in life". Was 70 if a day. That struck me as gross. Not because
his life is over, but because he could have come up with something
a little better in 70 years...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 07:42:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03556
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 07:42:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FC88A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 13:57:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12797971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 13:57:35 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67HvZZ11831 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:57:35 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-16.panax.com [63.163.41.16])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67HvXj13351 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:57:33 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707135335.00a14c50@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:57:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

 >>> D'accord. In fact, I think one has an obligation to both reach out for
 >>> and also provide help to community members.    --Bethany

 >> We disagree. I don't believe one has an *obligation* to "both reach out
and
 >> also provide help."  Where'd you get that idea???      --Sandra

 >The Golden Rule.     --Karen

That doesn't work.  I take it "The Golden Rule" is "do unto others as you
would have them do unto you."  Personally, I would like to be left the fuck
alone.  And I'm willing to do that to others.  Thus, I'm golden without
reaching out.


    --bonniev, back on mail and reading archives

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 07:44:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03563
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 07:44:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80B33@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 13:53:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12797991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 13:59:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67Hx9Z11921 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:59:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B0BA57D02; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 10:59:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707175908.B0BA57D02@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 10:59:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: NYTimes.com Article: The New Retirement Comes in Four
              Financial Flavors - extract
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020707124524.C35016@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Jul 7,
              2002 12:45:24 pm"

Tushar Samant said:
> The other day I again saw some
> guy reading "How to kick ass over your competitors and get ahead
> in life". Was 70 if a day. That struck me as gross. Not because
> his life is over,

Whew!

> but because he could have come up with something
> a little better in 70 years...

Maybe he was critiquing it so he could debunk it during the self-help
seminars he teaches?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 07:45:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03572
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 07:45:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80B39@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 13:54:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12798001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 14:00:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67I03Z12001 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:00:03 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DF69D7D02; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 11:00:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707180001.DF69D7D02@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 11:00:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707135335.00a14c50@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 7, 2002  1:57:18 pm"

bonniev said:
>     --bonniev, back on mail and reading archives

Dead bird city! But I'm glad you're still alive.

Karen
who sounds young

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 07:58:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03610
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 07:58:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80BD2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 14:07:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12798206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 14:12:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67ICxZ13017 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:12:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6E9157CF3; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 11:11:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707181105.6E9157CF3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 11:11:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      I am soooo lucky...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The more I hear about the flooding, the happier I am that I live on
top of a hill. The flooding of my patio, while it left a high water
mark on the house and chairs etc., is really nothing compared to all
the people whose houses flooded. I'm pretty sure I'm not covered for
flooding, in fact. I bet a lot of them weren't.:(

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 08:02:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03623
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 08:02:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80C25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 14:11:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12798320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 14:16:41 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67IGfZ13344 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:16:41 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-16.panax.com [63.163.41.16])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67IGej15090 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:16:40 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707135335.00a14c50@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707141334.00a10170@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:16:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020707180001.DF69D7D02@yellow.rahul.net>

>Dead bird city! But I'm glad you're still alive.
>Karen
>who sounds young

Brace yourself for a lot of dead birds.  I have mixed feelings about still
being alive.   But I'm glad you are happy about it.  I woke up Saturday
morning and realized I have to make a new plan.  Somehow I have to learn to
accept and deal with the fact that I could live into my 90s.   I'm not sure
I wanna.

Karen does indeed sound young.  She has the voice of an angel.  I'm glad I
called on July 4th.  I would never have recognized her phone voice.  Of
course, it has been seven years since I saw Karen ftf.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 08:04:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03632
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 08:04:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80C5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 14:13:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12798364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 14:19:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67IJ4Z13520 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:19:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 76C847CF8; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 11:19:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707181903.76C847CF8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 11:19:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707141334.00a10170@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 7, 2002  2:16:25 pm"

bonniev said:
> >Dead bird city! But I'm glad you're still alive.
> >Karen
> >who sounds young
>
> Brace yourself for a lot of dead birds.  I have mixed feelings about still
> being alive.   But I'm glad you are happy about it.  I woke up Saturday
> morning and realized I have to make a new plan.  Somehow I have to learn to
> accept and deal with the fact that I could live into my 90s.   I'm not sure
> I wanna.

Oh, it will be great fun!

> Karen does indeed sound young.  She has the voice of an angel.  I'm glad I
> called on July 4th.  I would never have recognized her phone voice.  Of
> course, it has been seven years since I saw Karen ftf.

You sound a lot like my friend Susan, so I was confused at first.
(She's also tall, but she wears like a size 1 or something. I suspect
that my hips are twice as big as hers.) (But I like her anyway.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 08:06:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03639
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 08:06:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80C7F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 14:15:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12798393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 14:20:41 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67IKeZ13629 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:20:40 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-16.panax.com [63.163.41.16])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67IKdj15496 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:20:39 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707141803.009fb3d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:20:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Last Sunday Karen wrote:

 > We've been over 90 since the beginning of May, but today was a
 >lovely respite in the 1970's.

And we are having a lovely respite in the 1950s.  Quite nostalgic.  My
youth.   I'm assuming the green grocer's punctuation was pointed out a week
ago.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 08:15:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03693
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 08:15:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80D8D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 14:24:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12798376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 14:30:07 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67IK7Z13591 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:20:07 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g67IK6OI008060 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:20:06 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207071414390.1415-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:20:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020707172410.994D17D00@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> That being the case, Karen, why are
>> you not teaching Pilates?
>
>Because it costs $3-5000 to get certified. Also, the Pilates Center is
>doing terribly--no one has spare money to spend on Pilates.

I had budgeted about $500 for my now-defunct <spa week>, a lot of it
destined for Pilates. My share of my Therapy Center bill (for my knee
rehab) was $334. I will collect it from my med reimbursement fund, but
right now it's gone. The Orthopedic Clinic will bill me for part of their
bill.

Fortunately, I bought the book that Karen recommended and also a couple of
Pilates toys. I am still spending all my exercise time on my rehab
exercises - maybe I can still squeeze in one or two mat sessions.

Then I'm back to my <normal> budget, which does not allow for $75 per
hour Pilates sesssions - or very many $20 per hour ones.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 08:18:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03697
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 08:18:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80DE7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 14:28:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12798598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 14:33:28 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67IXSZ14510 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:33:28 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-16.panax.com [63.163.41.16])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67IXQj16753 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:33:27 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707143050.00a00680@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:33:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Kid's schoolbook 1938
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

 >Wonder how it would play now, with those cotton-picking Negroes
 >singing and all. http://home.attbi.com/~gods/pibod.html
 >Is Texas really like this? -- alyce

Personally, I've seen more cotton in Texas than in any other state.  Not
that I've spent a lot of time in any Southern state other than Tennessee,
Alabama, and North Carolina.  There were shrink-wrapped bales of cotton
everywhere in the September of 1991 when I drove from Tennessee to Austin, TX.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 08:21:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03704
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 08:21:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E80E40@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 14:31:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12798478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 14:36:27 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67IQRZ13970 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:26:27 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8FE6E4A for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun,  7 Jul 2002 13:26:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g67IQQP35736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:26:26
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020707124524.C35016@pobox.com>
            <20020707175908.B0BA57D02@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020707132626.A35669@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:26:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: NYTimes.com Article: The New Retirement Comes in Four
              Financial Flavors - extract
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020707175908.B0BA57D02@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 10:59:08AM -0700

On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 10:59:08AM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> Tushar Samant said:
> > The other day I again saw some
> > guy reading "How to kick ass over your competitors and get ahead
> > in life". Was 70 if a day. That struck me as gross. Not because
> > his life is over,
>
> Whew!

Thanks for your outstanding support, K@r3n. You understand that
I put it in there in order to keep you occupied?

> > but because he could have come up with something
> > a little better in 70 years...
>
> Maybe he was critiquing it so he could debunk it during the self-help
> seminars he teaches?

Nice save. This suddenly gives me that freedom of spirit to read
the 1200-page Sams book for Killer ASP Development in Visual Basic
openly on the train. I can always say I am critiquing it...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 08:45:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03740
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 08:45:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FCA3F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 15:00:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12798996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:00:01 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67J00Z16367 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:00:01 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust210.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.212]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005053099@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:00:00 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707181105.6E9157CF3@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D289015.AE00534F@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:01:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: I am soooo lucky...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> I bet a lot of them weren't.:(

Probably. But a lot of them were, according to ABC News.
Because they lived on a flood plain, they were <wise> and bought federal
flood insurance. All people within distance of any sort of water or on
low ground should buy it. Home owner's insurance does not [usually]
cover floods. Actually, never, AFAIK.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 08:48:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03744
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 08:48:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E810C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 14:57:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12799111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:02:42 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67J2gZ16628 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:02:42 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW007VX7KH1T@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 14:02:41 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020707174731.D231F7D02@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D288FF9.3000907@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:01:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Alyce, send me the recipe and if it is that good, I think I
can find it in my heart to play with the recipe and see if I
can get it right.

Karen Kay wrote:

> alyce cresap said:
>
>>I lust for this cake. Maybe in heaven?
>>
>
> :)
>
> I've never been able to make good cakes from scratch under any
> circumstances.
>
> Karen
>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 08:49:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03751
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 08:49:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FCA68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 15:04:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12799181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:04:38 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67J4cZ16803 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:04:38 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust210.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.212]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005053155@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:04:34 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D289126.46592F36@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:06:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Earth will expire by 2050
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Per the Guardian (UK). I am glad that I will not be around. Bonnie, you
will just miss it if you live to be 90.

http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,750783,00.html
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 08:57:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03759
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 08:57:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FCA8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 15:12:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12799299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:12:05 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67JC5Z17314 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:12:05 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust210.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.212]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005053231@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:12:03 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707174731.D231F7D02@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D288FF9.3000907@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2892E7.42EB5DF5@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:13:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> Alyce, send me the recipe and if it is that good, I think I
> can find it in my heart to play with the recipe and see if I
> can get it right.

OK. Address? It's a three-layer cake. Of course you then need to put on
the special chocolate frosting made with tons of butter.

alyce

--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 09:11:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03783
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 09:11:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E812C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 15:20:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12799515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:25:42 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67JPgZ18248 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:25:42 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW003938MTAC@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 14:25:41 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020707174731.D231F7D02@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D288FF9.3000907@swbell.net> <3D2892E7.42EB5DF5@valstar.net>
Message-ID:  <3D28955D.3070707@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:24:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>>Alyce, send me the recipe and if it is that good, I think I
>>can find it in my heart to play with the recipe and see if I
>>can get it right.
>>
>
> OK. Address? It's a three-layer cake. Of course you then need to put on
> the special chocolate frosting made with tons of butter.
>


        Is there another way to make frosting?

        My address is:  3075 Harness Dr., Florissant, MO  63033.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 09:11:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03790
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 09:11:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E812DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 15:20:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12799524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:26:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67JQEZ18303 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:26:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CEF407D26; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 12:26:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707192613.CEF407D26@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:26:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707141803.009fb3d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 7, 2002  2:20:24 pm"

bonniev said:
> Last Sunday Karen wrote:
>  > We've been over 90 since the beginning of May, but today was a
>  >lovely respite in the 1970's.
>
> And we are having a lovely respite in the 1950s.  Quite nostalgic.  My
> youth.   I'm assuming the green grocer's punctuation was pointed out a week
> ago.

Is that a greengrocer's?!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 09:13:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03798
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 09:13:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FCAF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 15:28:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12799541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:28:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67JSOZ18533 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:28:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AA58D7D53; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 12:28:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707192823.AA58D7D53@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:28:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207071414390.1415-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 7, 2002  2:20: 6 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> Fortunately, I bought the book that Karen recommended and also a couple of
> Pilates toys.

What toys?! I have a ton of toys.

> Then I'm back to my <normal> budget, which does not allow for $75 per
> hour Pilates sesssions - or very many $20 per hour ones.

I do it once/wk. I don't eat out or go to movies except at the
discount cinema.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 09:16:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03807
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 09:16:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81333@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 15:25:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12799578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:30:46 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67JUkZ18766 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:30:46 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust210.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.212]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005053400@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:30:46 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707174731.D231F7D02@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D288FF9.3000907@swbell.net> <3D2892E7.42EB5DF5@valstar.net>
            <3D28955D.3070707@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28974A.81A8FBC1@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:32:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>         Is there another way to make frosting?

I understand that they use margarine in the South.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 09:17:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03811
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 09:17:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81357@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 15:26:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12799627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:31:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67JVuZ18886 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:31:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 29FE77D53; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 12:31:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707193156.29FE77D53@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:31:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I am soooo lucky...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D289015.AE00534F@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 7,
              2002  3: 1:41 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I bet a lot of them weren't.:(
>
> Probably. But a lot of them were, according to ABC News.
> Because they lived on a flood plain, they were <wise> and bought federal
> flood insurance.

Ah.

> All people within distance of any sort of water or on
> low ground should buy it. Home owner's insurance does not [usually]
> cover floods. Actually, never, AFAIK.

I got the impression that it was covered as long as you didn't live on
a flood plain; I remember that I had to get my flood plain status
certified by someone at some point.

Until last week, I didn't think it was an issue...

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 09:17:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03815
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 09:17:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81368@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 15:27:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12799637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:32:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67JWUZ18948 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:32:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 116EB7D1D; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 12:32:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707193229.116EB7D1D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:32:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D288FF9.3000907@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 7,
              2002  2: 1:13 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Alyce, send me the recipe and if it is that good, I think I
> can find it in my heart to play with the recipe and see if I
> can get it right.

Woohoo! Someone who can make a cake!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 09:19:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03819
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 09:19:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FCB1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 15:33:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12799662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:33:57 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67JXvZ19038 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:33:57 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust210.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.212]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003745194@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:33:44 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707192613.CEF407D26@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2897FC.9A3F9123@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:35:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
>
> Is that a greengrocer's?!

It is optional. The NY Times style book says yes, use the apostrophe.
Some other style books say no. My style books are all upstairs now, so I
cannot remember which ones disagree with the NYT.

I find the apostrophe annoying, because if they speak of the eighties,
for instance, it becomes '80's, which is damned ugly.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 09:21:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03823
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 09:21:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FCB2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 15:35:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12799714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:35:55 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67JZsZ19233 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:35:54 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust210.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.212]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005053494@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:35:54 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707193156.29FE77D53@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28987E.FE9B84C6@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:37:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: I am soooo lucky...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> alyce cresap said:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > I bet a lot of them weren't.:(
> >
> > Probably. But a lot of them were, according to ABC News.
> > Because they lived on a flood plain, they were <wise> and bought federal
> > flood insurance.
>
> Ah.
>
> > All people within distance of any sort of water or on
> > low ground should buy it. Home owner's insurance does not [usually]
> > cover floods. Actually, never, AFAIK.
>
> I got the impression that it was covered as long as you didn't live on
> a flood plain;

Don't think so. It is not in my insurance, nor in that of where my books
are. I know this, because when my basement flooded and I lost so much
stuff, they said, "Ah, what a shame." Not, "We will pay for all of
that."

alyce

--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 09:22:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03827
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 09:22:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E813B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 15:31:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12799723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:36:54 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67JasZ19277 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:36:54 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust210.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.212]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003745223@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:36:53 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707193229.116EB7D1D@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2898B9.292B20F3@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:38:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Woohoo! Someone who can make a cake!

I'm another one. I can make Mother's cake and it tastes great. But it is
not like hers, see?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 09:22:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03831
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 09:22:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E813C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 15:32:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12799728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:37:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67JbYZ19337 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:37:35 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C74FF7EFE; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 12:37:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707193708.C74FF7EFE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:37:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2897FC.9A3F9123@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 7,
              2002  3:35:24 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> I find the apostrophe annoying, because if they speak of the eighties,
> for instance, it becomes '80's, which is damned ugly.

I agree. I think that's why I misspecified 1970's.

I think I'd type 70s for the degrees.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 09:26:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03835
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 09:26:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E813DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 15:35:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12799780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:40:58 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67JevZ19548 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:40:57 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust210.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.212]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005053542@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:40:57 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707193708.C74FF7EFE@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2899AD.40118D68@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:42:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> I think I'd type 70s for the degrees.

Oh, no question. I doubt anyone would type 70's for the temperature,
would they? Well, probably they would. On Biblio in the last few days
there has been a real apostrophe war. Someone typed "fanny's" instead of
"fannies," and now things totally are out of hand. The funny thing is
that some of the complainers make worse errors, like "procede with
caution."

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 09:38:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03874
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 09:38:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81454@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 15:47:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12800036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:53:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67JqxZ20502 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:52:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 24B257D32; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 12:52:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707195259.24B257D32@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:52:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2899AD.40118D68@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 7,
              2002  3:42:37 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I think I'd type 70s for the degrees.
>
> Oh, no question. I doubt anyone would type 70's for the temperature,
> would they? Well, probably they would.

Well, Bonnie thought my 1970's was a greengrocer's.

> On Biblio in the last few days
> there has been a real apostrophe war. Someone typed "fanny's" instead of
> "fannies," and now things totally are out of hand. The funny thing is
> that some of the complainers make worse errors, like "procede with
> caution."

One newsgroup I frequent calls these "spelling flams", because of the
Murphy's Law aspect. (That if you make a spelling flame, you are bound
to misspell something, or make a grammatical error.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 09:39:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03881
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 09:39:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8145B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 15:48:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12800059 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 15:53:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67JrsZ20565 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:53:54 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C55E87D00; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 12:53:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707195353.C55E87D00@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:53:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2898B9.292B20F3@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 7,
              2002  3:38:33 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Woohoo! Someone who can make a cake!
>
> I'm another one. I can make Mother's cake and it tastes great. But it is
> not like hers, see?

I got the point. I was going to make Rita's offer, but she's far
better suited to this than I, having more mouths to feed, etc.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 10:02:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03904
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 10:02:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81512@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 16:11:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12800582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 16:16:48 -0400
Received: from mail7.wlv.netzero.net (mail7.wlv.netzero.net [209.247.163.57])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g67KGmZ22355 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:16:48 -0400
Received: (qmail 7529 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2002 20:16:41 -0000
Received: from 1cust50.tnt1.lexington.ky.da.uu.net (HELO computer)
          (65.238.38.50) by mail7.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 7 Jul 2002
          20:16:41 -0000
References: <000301c224a9$eee73d00$9a26ee41@computer> 
            <3D26DA92.CF85B963@maynor.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000601c225f5$9e2909a0$3226ee41@computer>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:33:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bogris01 <bogris01@NETZERO.NET>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> About Kay:
> >  She has been inspired by my tales of
> > Natalie's retirement, since they are almost exactly the same
age,
> > but she will probably have to teach another year at least.
>
> Is she teaching in the public school system?  How many years
does she
> have?  The minimum for retirement is 25 years, but she could
retire next
> year with only 4 years.  I don't think that would produce much
> retirement income, though.  Anyway, the PERS rule is 25 years
at any age
> or 4 years if you're 60 or over.  Unless I had another job
lined up, I
> would want at least 30 years of credit.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Kay was so busy shopping and doing chores for us that she never
got around to posting to words-l.  But here's a rough
transcription of her response to your questions, Natalie, hastily
written down  before she left for home, expecting another
grandchild:

Next year I will have 28 years with 3/4 year of sick/personal
days. Am on PERS.  Will teach maybe two more years to get 30 if
enrollment holds up--Vocational Education, Business Computer
Technology.  Attended a retirement seminar and got a printout of
projected retirement income based on last year.  I plan to get a
job parttime if I retire.  COLA will help.  Also want to see if
medical insurance will be taken care of within next two years.

End of transcription.

On a personal note, she remembered all the wordslers she met at
Slugfest and sends the best.  I took her around to some of my
watering holes and always introduced her as Baby Sister instead
of Big Sister.  I think it pleased her. :)

Bradley Dale


-------------------------------------------
Introducing NetZero Long Distance
Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month!
Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 10:07:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03916
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 10:07:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8152E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 16:17:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12800505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 16:22:24 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67KCOZ21950 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:12:24 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g67KCNOI028460 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:12:23 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207071608300.2514-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:12:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020707192823.AA58D7D53@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> Pilates toys.
>
>What toys?! I have a ton of toys.

I bought resistance bands and a medium-sized ball. (I already have a large
ball.) They came with videos. I am going to get the mat, too, because my
other mat will not be good for the ball. The large ball is good for
horsey-type stuff, but not Pilates-type stuff. The mat comes with somthing
else, I think. (This was all on sale at Tarzhay,)

>> Then I'm back to my <normal> budget, which does not allow for $75 per
>> hour Pilates sesssions - or very many $20 per hour ones.
>
>I do it once/wk. I don't eat out or go to movies except at the
>discount cinema.

You sound like me! I pick up lunch out occasionally, but it tends to be
very low-end (a bean burrito plus guacamole at Taco Bell, for
instance). I did plan a couple of lunches out for Spa Week and the week
following - fortuantely, I can still afford the Orangery once and the
Tomato Head once.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 10:11:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03923
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 10:11:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8153C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 16:20:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12800698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 16:25:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67KPfZ23104 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:25:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 17F857E15; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 13:25:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707202541.17F857E15@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:25:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207071608300.2514-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 7, 2002  4:12:23 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> I bought resistance bands and a medium-sized ball. (I already have a large
> ball.) They came with videos. I am going to get the mat, too, because my
> other mat will not be good for the ball. The large ball is good for
> horsey-type stuff, but not Pilates-type stuff. The mat comes with somthing
> else, I think. (This was all on sale at Tarzhay,)

Hm. I don't use any mats. I have a ball that enables my hips and knees
to be at right angles, and a slightly smaller one.

> I pick up lunch out occasionally, but it tends to be
> very low-end (a bean burrito plus guacamole at Taco Bell, for
> instance). I did plan a couple of lunches out for Spa Week and the week
> following - fortuantely, I can still afford the Orangery once and the
> Tomato Head once.

I consider Pilates a necessity, like food and shelter.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 10:28:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03938
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 10:28:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FCD57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 16:43:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 16:43:06 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67Kh6Z24622 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:43:06 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW003B9C7TAJ@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 15:43:05 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207062216040.27024-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D2873EA.3060109@swbell.net> <20020707124524.C35016@pobox.com>
Message-ID:  <3D28A782.50605@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:41:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: NYTimes.com Article: The New Retirement Comes in Four
              Financial Flavors - extract
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 12:01:30PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>>What *is* it with Baby Boomers.
>>
>
> Kindly calm down "Rita". It is just a small percentage making the
> most noise.
>
>
>>                                 Why can't they just accept
>>that they haven't invented every GD little thing?  The "new"
>>this, the "new" that.  Nothing new about it except an
>>enormous generation doing it all en masse and believing
>>they're the first.  As if nobody else in the history of the
>>world has ever wanted to travel after age 64.
>>
>
> Please stop being so resentful and focus on the main issue: people
> who inaugurate an exciting new phase of life really need to reverse
> this innovation ASAP. It's sucking. The other day I again saw some
> guy reading "How to kick ass over your competitors and get ahead
> in life". Was 70 if a day. That struck me as gross. Not because
> his life is over, but because he could have come up with something
> a little better in 70 years...


        Yeah, you just wait a few years.  Soon they'll be calling it
"the new dead."




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 10:29:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03945
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 10:29:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81602@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 16:38:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 16:43:59 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67KhwZ24679 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:43:58 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW0034GC9A97@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 15:43:58 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020707174731.D231F7D02@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D288FF9.3000907@swbell.net> <3D2892E7.42EB5DF5@valstar.net>
            <3D28955D.3070707@swbell.net> <3D28974A.81A8FBC1@valstar.net>
Message-ID:  <3D28A7B7.6020406@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:42:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>>        Is there another way to make frosting?
>>
>
> I understand that they use margarine in the South.
>


        Sweet Jesus.  Those poor people.


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 10:39:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03959
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 10:39:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81675@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 16:48:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 16:53:44 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67KriZ25359 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:53:44 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW007CDCPJ1R@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 15:53:44 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020707195353.C55E87D00@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D28AA00.4040805@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:52:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> alyce cresap said:
>
>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>
>>>Woohoo! Someone who can make a cake!
>>>
>>I'm another one. I can make Mother's cake and it tastes great. But it is
>>not like hers, see?
>>
>
> I got the point. I was going to make Rita's offer, but she's far
> better suited to this than I, having more mouths to feed, etc.



Yes, I love to bake, and the key is to have somebody to feed
it all to so I don't eat it (except for a very little bit).
  We're on summer schedule at church, which means we have
one service instead of two on Sundays.  The older
parishioners tend to go to early service, and I'm known to
them only as "the woman who bakes" from when I do coffee
hour.  Everybody else buys the goodies.  When the ECW has
their bake sales, I'm always pressured into doing my
chocolate chip cookies and the Greek sesames.  Of course,
the only reason they taste so good is because they're made
with butter (shhhh!).



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 10:43:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03966
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 10:43:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E816B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 16:52:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 16:58:05 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67Kw5Z25720 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:58:05 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW007O9CWS20@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 15:58:04 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020707181105.6E9157CF3@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D28AB05.1000803@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:56:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: I am soooo lucky...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> The more I hear about the flooding, the happier I am that I live on
> top of a hill. The flooding of my patio, while it left a high water
> mark on the house and chairs etc., is really nothing compared to all
> the people whose houses flooded. I'm pretty sure I'm not covered for
> flooding, in fact. I bet a lot of them weren't.:(


        I don't know if we have flood insurance or not.  We've been
dry for all the big floods, though.

        They're building an enormous mall down on the bottom land in
Hazelwood.  The spot they're building on was under several
feet water this year during all the rain.  It was all
cropland, which strikes me as the most appropriate use of a
flood plain.  I just have to wonder where all that water
displaced by the tons and tons of concrete is going to go
next spring.

        We've already got two failing malls in North County.  I wish
they'd re-model those instead.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 10:46:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03978
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 10:46:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81782@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 16:55:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12802175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 17:01:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67L13Z26230 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:01:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 48A807C82; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 14:00:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707210036.48A807C82@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:00:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I am soooo lucky...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28AB05.1000803@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 7,
              2002  3:56:37 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
>         We've already got two failing malls in North County.  I wish
> they'd re-model those instead.

It's cheaper to build new.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 10:48:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03982
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 10:48:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E817E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 16:57:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12802463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 17:02:57 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67L2vZ26469 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:02:57 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust210.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.212]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005054514@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 17:02:57 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28ACE3.56334902@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:04:35 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      animal rescue
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

THere is a new thing like the hunger site for feeding animals in need.
You can find it on a tab at the top of the hunger site:
http://www.thehungersite.com

Only takes a minute. Costs you nada.

alyce
-

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 10:48:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03986
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 10:48:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FCE5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 17:03:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12802486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 17:03:09 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67L39Z26505 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:03:09 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-49.panax.com
          [65.114.190.49]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g67L38j00561 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:03:08
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D2899AD.40118D68@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707165926.00a04070@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:02:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020707195259.24B257D32@yellow.rahul.net>

>Well, Bonnie thought my 1970's was a greengrocer's.
>Karen

Very definitely.  I would want to ask the 1970's what?  Like the 1970's
style or the 1970's ethic.  Or something.  But you didn't use it that
way.  Even in the above I might want to see "the 1970s' style or the 1970s'
ethic.  But what do I know?  I'm just a stinkin' philosopher who, when a
professor, refused to correct the English in my students' papers.  Someone
else was supposed to teach them how to write.  I was supposed to teach them
how to think.  Of course, writing can be so bad that it is hard to tell if
the thinking has clarity or not.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 11:00:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03998
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 11:00:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FCEAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 17:14:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12802828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 17:14:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67LEoZ27430 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:14:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F11D17CF1; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 14:14:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707211449.F11D17CF1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:14:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707165926.00a04070@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 7, 2002  5: 2:52 pm"

bonniev said:
> >Well, Bonnie thought my 1970's was a greengrocer's.
> >Karen
>
> Very definitely.

Nah, it was a typo.

> I would want to ask the 1970's what?  Like the 1970's
> style or the 1970's ethic.  Or something.  But you didn't use it that
> way.  Even in the above I might want to see "the 1970s' style or the 1970s'
> ethic.  But what do I know?  I'm just a stinkin' philosopher who, when a
> professor, refused to correct the English in my students' papers.  Someone
> else was supposed to teach them how to write.  I was supposed to teach them
> how to think.  Of course, writing can be so bad that it is hard to tell if
> the thinking has clarity or not.

I think my sentence was an example of this.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 11:01:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04002
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 11:01:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FCEB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 17:15:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12802636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 17:15:40 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67L5eZ26738 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:05:40 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6478B7477 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun,  7 Jul 2002 16:05:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g67L5eX83789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:05:40
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207062216040.27024-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D2873EA.3060109@swbell.net> <20020707124524.C35016@pobox.com>
            <3D28A782.50605@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020707160539.A82962@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:05:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: NYTimes.com Article: The New Retirement Comes in Four
              Financial Flavors - extract
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28A782.50605@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Sun,
              Jul 07, 2002 at 03:41:38PM -0500

On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 03:41:38PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
> Tushar Samant wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 12:01:30PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> >>What *is* it with Baby Boomers.
> >
> > Kindly calm down "Rita". It is just a small percentage making the
> > most noise.
> >
> >>                                 Why can't they just accept
> >>that they haven't invented every GD little thing?  The "new"
> >>this, the "new" that.  Nothing new about it except an
> >>enormous generation doing it all en masse and believing
> >>they're the first.  As if nobody else in the history of the
> >>world has ever wanted to travel after age 64.
> >
> > Please stop being so resentful and focus on the main issue: people
> > who inaugurate an exciting new phase of life really need to reverse
> > this innovation ASAP. It's sucking. The other day I again saw some
> > guy reading "How to kick ass over your competitors and get ahead
> > in life". Was 70 if a day. That struck me as gross. Not because
> > his life is over, but because he could have come up with something
> > a little better in 70 years...
>
>         Yeah, you just wait a few years.  Soon they'll be calling it
> "the new dead."

Rita. He might have been *critiquing* it. I swan.

We have gone over this tiresome habit of non-stop never-listen
head-in-sand self-analysis before ... I have spent 10 years in
America and never heard one let-up. It must be the liberal media.

When we discussed this last, the canonical example of this was
generally accepted to be a little book called "Bobos in Paradise"
(a brilliant, breezy and often hilarious study of the first ever
meritocracy in the history of humanity). This erudite skewering
of the creatures of the end of a centuries-long culture war (which
occurred on December 31st, 1989), has garnered an unprecedented
readership and a very uniform reaction: amused chuckles and fake
self-deprecation. I recommend it highly--perhaps you will discover
yourself in it and enjoy a few quiet chuckles.

And easy on the French roast please...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 11:01:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04006
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 11:01:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E818A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 17:11:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12802857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 17:16:26 -0400
Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g67LGQZ27575 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002
          17:16:26 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-82-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.82.119]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g67LGPI53398 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002
          17:16:25 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEHDFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:15:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28AA00.4040805@swbell.net>

> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > alyce cresap said:
> >

> Yes, I love to bake, and the key is to have somebody to feed
> it all to so I don't eat it (except for a very little bit).
>   We're on summer schedule at church, which means we have
> one service instead of two on Sundays.  The older
> parishioners tend to go to early service, and I'm known to
> them only as "the woman who bakes" from when I do coffee
> hour.  Everybody else buys the goodies.  When the ECW has
> their bake sales, I'm always pressured into doing my
> chocolate chip cookies and the Greek sesames.  Of course,
> the only reason they taste so good is because they're made
> with butter (shhhh!).
>
>
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman

My Mom is the WWB at her church. She's all about making bars...Turtle Bars,
7Layer Bars, etc. Baking for others is just about the only time she uses
butter, too. She converted to catholicism some years ago, but basically her
involvement with the church is strictly about baking and putting on their
"continental breakfasts."

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 11:13:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04025
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 11:13:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81A7A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 17:22:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12803049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 17:27:56 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67LRuZ28401 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:27:56 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-49.panax.com
          [65.114.190.49]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g67LRsj02985 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:27:55
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707172534.00a04ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:27:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Earth will expire by 2050
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D289126.46592F36@valstar.net>

>Per the Guardian (UK). I am glad that I will not be around. Bonnie, you
>will just miss it if you live to be 90.
>http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,750783,00.html
>alyce

I can't buy into this stuff anymore.  They used to say the Great Lakes were
polluted beyond any ability to reclaim them.  But they did reclaim
them.  They used to say that if we didn't all practice Zero Population
Growth immediately we would be elbowing people off the planet in no
time.  But now that doesn't seem to be as great of a problem.  Instead of
believing the doomsayers, I'm going to believe that science can fix
anything we mess up.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 11:16:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04037
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 11:16:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81A9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 17:25:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12803141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 17:31:14 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67LVEZ28755 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:31:14 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-49.panax.com
          [65.114.190.49]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g67LVDj03310 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:31:13
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D288FF9.3000907@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707172827.00a0fe80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:30:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020707193229.116EB7D1D@yellow.rahul.net>

>Woohoo! Someone who can make a cake!
>Karen

God, I made a great cheesecake for my birthday.  It's huge.  We got 20
pieces off of it and still have two left.  The four of us munched on it
almost every night last week.  It was a recipe that some guy published in a
Cincinnati newspaper as the very best cheesecake after testing 50 different
recipes.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 11:21:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04041
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 11:21:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81AC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 17:30:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12803235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 17:35:38 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67LZbZ29097 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:35:38 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-49.panax.com
          [65.114.190.49]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g67LZaj03733 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:35:36
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D28AA00.4040805@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707173406.00a09040@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:35:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEHDFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

> > Yes, I love to bake, and the key is to have somebody to feed
> > it all to so I don't eat it (except for a very little bit).
> > Rita Rouvalis Chapman

Yes, that's one of the reasons I like working at the Inn on Tuesdays.  I
get to bake coffee cakes with a real counter-top stand mixer which I don't
even own.  And I get to bake cookies and sometimes breads.  I don't have to
eat any of it.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 11:24:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04053
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 11:24:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FCF3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 17:39:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12803307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 17:39:14 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67LdEZ29407 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:39:14 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g67LdDJ20254 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:39:13
          -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020707181105.6E9157CF3@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001001c225fe$f3775480$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:40:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: I am soooo lucky...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Kay" <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
To: <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 1:11 PM
Subject: I am soooo lucky...


> The more I hear about the flooding, the happier I am that I live on
> top of a hill. The flooding of my patio, while it left a high water
> mark on the house and chairs etc., is really nothing compared to all
> the people whose houses flooded. I'm pretty sure I'm not covered for
> flooding, in fact. I bet a lot of them weren't.:(
>
> Karen

My grandson and his wife and baby were on the road
last week, making their move from California to San
Antonio, where they've bought a house on the NW
edge of the city.  I was worried they'd find their new
house under water, but it was fine.

                    - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 11:40:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04090
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 11:40:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81B72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 17:49:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12803611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 17:55:10 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67LtAZ30545 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:55:10 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-134.panax.com
          [63.163.41.134]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g67Lt8j05860 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:55:09
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020707174731.D231F7D02@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D288FF9.3000907@swbell.net> <3D2892E7.42EB5DF5@valstar.net>
            <3D28955D.3070707@swbell.net> <3D28974A.81A8FBC1@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707174620.00b42388@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:46:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28A7B7.6020406@swbell.net>

At 03:42 PM 7/7/2002 -0500, rita wrote:
>alyce cresap wrote:
>
>>Rita Chapman wrote:
>>
>>>        Is there another way to make frosting?
>>
>>I understand that they use margarine in the South.
>
>
>        Sweet Jesus.  Those poor people.

Bless their hearts....

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 11:40:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04092
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 11:40:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81B74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 17:49:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12803615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 17:55:12 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67LtBZ30551 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:55:11 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-134.panax.com
          [63.163.41.134]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g67LtAj05864 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:55:10
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D289126.46592F36@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707174747.00b4f7e8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:55:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Earth will expire by 2050
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707172534.00a04ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

At 05:27 PM 7/7/2002 -0400, bonnie wrote:
I can't buy into this stuff anymore.  They used to say the Great Lakes were
>polluted beyond any ability to reclaim them.  But they did reclaim
>them.  They used to say that if we didn't all practice Zero Population
>Growth immediately we would be elbowing people off the planet in no
>time.  But now that doesn't seem to be as great of a problem.  Instead of
>believing the doomsayers, I'm going to believe that science can fix
>anything we mess up.

I'm not all that sanguine about the technological fix (es).  As for the
Great Lakes, I don't think anybody reclaimed them (actually, only Ontario
and Erie were in tough shape).  Moreover, some of the improvement in Erie
and environs has been due to the incredible filtering capacity of the zebra
mussel, whose ultimate impact---positive or negative---is still to be seen.

However, as I've said before, I do hold some degree of optimism for
humanity's ability to muddle through, if (and it's a big if) the
politicians and religious leaders will let us alone.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 11:47:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04132
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 11:47:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FCFE4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 18:01:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12804093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 18:01:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67M1nZ31144 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:01:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 180707DF4; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 15:01:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707220149.180707DF4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:01:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707172827.00a0fe80@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 7, 2002  5:30:56 pm"

bonniev said:
> God, I made a great cheesecake for my birthday.  It's huge.  We got 20
> pieces off of it and still have two left.  The four of us munched on it
> almost every night last week.  It was a recipe that some guy published in a
> Cincinnati newspaper as the very best cheesecake after testing 50 different
> recipes.

Post it or DIE, Bonniemae!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 11:48:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04139
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 11:48:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81C3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 17:57:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12804139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 18:02:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67M2oZ31235 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:02:51 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3C8487DF6; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 15:02:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707220250.3C8487DF6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:02:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I am soooo lucky...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <001001c225fe$f3775480$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 7, 2002  4:40:45 pm"

Doris Markland said:
> My grandson and his wife and baby were on the road
> last week, making their move from California to San
> Antonio, where they've bought a house on the NW
> edge of the city.  I was worried they'd find their new
> house under water, but it was fine.

Hey! Only an hour and a half from me!!! You have no excuse not to visit.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 11:48:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04143
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 11:48:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81C45@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 17:58:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12804165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 18:03:27 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67M3RZ31277 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:03:27 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-73.panax.com [63.163.41.73])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67M3Qj06628 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:03:26 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <000301c224a9$eee73d00$9a26ee41@computer>
            <3D26DA92.CF85B963@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707180237.00a14b10@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:03:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000601c225f5$9e2909a0$3226ee41@computer>

>On a personal note, she remembered all the wordslers she met at
>Slugfest and sends the best.
>Bradley Dale

And what about those wordslers she met outside of Slugfest???!


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 11:59:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04159
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 11:59:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81DA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 18:08:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12804936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 18:13:49 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67MDnZ32150 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:13:49 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-73.panax.com [63.163.41.73])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67MDlj07530 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:13:47 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707180549.00a15340@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:13:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ingredients:

4 8-ounce packages of Philadelphia Cream Cheese
16 ounces of sour cream
1/4 pound (one stick) of unsalted butter
1 teaspoon lemon juice
5 eggs
1 and 1/4 cups of sugar
2 Tablespoons of corn starch
1 and 1/4 teaspoons of vanilla

Let cream cheese, sour cream, butter, and eggs sit out of refrigerator for
at least one hour.  Preheat oven to 375 degrees.

Blend cream cheese, butter, and sour cream.  Add cornstarch, sugar,
vanilla, and lemon juice.  With an electric mixer set on high speed, beat
until well blended.  Beat in eggs one at a time (DO NOT add eggs all at
once.)  Continue beating until mixture is very smooth.

Pour mixture into greased metal 9 inch by 3 inch pan.  (NOT a spring form
pan.  I found this size pan very difficult to find.)  Place in larger pan
filled with enough warm water to come halfway up the side of the cake pan.

Bake for one hour or until top is golden brown.  Turn off oven.  Let cake
cool in oven with door open for one hour.  Remove and let stand for two
hours.  Turn over onto serving plate and remove cake pan.  Cover and
refrigerate for at least six hours before serving.  The cake will get
better and better (up to a point) as it sits in the refrigerator because it
loses moisture and gets creamier and denser.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:05:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04171
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:05:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FD0A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 18:20:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12805132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 18:20:17 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67MKHZ32639 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:20:17 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW0036TGPTAA@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 17:20:17 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D28AA00.4040805@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707173406.00a09040@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID:  <3D28BE49.5010401@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:18:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

>> > Yes, I love to bake, and the key is to have somebody to feed
>> > it all to so I don't eat it (except for a very little bit).
>> > Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>
>
> Yes, that's one of the reasons I like working at the Inn on Tuesdays.  I
> get to bake coffee cakes with a real counter-top stand mixer which I don't
> even own.  And I get to bake cookies and sometimes breads.  I don't have to
> eat any of it.
>


        If you ever visit me, I'll make sure I let you play with my
KitchenAide.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:21:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04189
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:21:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81E83@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 18:30:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12805535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 18:35:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67MZaZ01546 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:35:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 53A907DEE; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 15:35:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707223535.53A907DEE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:35:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707180549.00a15340@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 7, 2002  6:13:30 pm"

bonniev said:
> Ingredients:

Yum! This looks very much like a cheesecake recipe I made
for... Hm. My advisor, when I was in graduate school. I had a
reception at my house for him or for new students or something.

I was so sick of it in the end and never made it again. BUT!!!!!
I can take it to the party I'm going to next weekend and leave half
the leftovers there.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:21:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04196
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:21:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81E87@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 18:30:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12805543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 18:36:07 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67Ma7Z01577 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:36:07 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws114-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.114]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g67Ma5Q02337
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:36:05 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207062216040.27024-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D2873EA.3060109@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28C24F.48F8BD59@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:35:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: NYTimes.com Article: The New Retirement Comes in
              FourFinancial Flavors - extract
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> What *is* it with Baby Boomers.  Why can't they just accept
> that they haven't invented every GD little thing?  The "new"
> this, the "new" that.  Nothing new about it except an
> enormous generation doing it all en masse and believing
> they're the first.  As if nobody else in the history of the
> world has ever wanted to travel after age 64.

Uruh, I don't think you'll find many Baby Boomers who know anything
about what it's like at age 64.  But I agree with your point about why
"new" is in the title.  I glanced at the article Bethany sent us, saw
nothing particularly interesting (or <new>) about it, and wondered why
she posted it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:21:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04200
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:21:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81E8C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 18:31:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12805557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 18:36:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67MaWZ01596 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:36:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C99247DEE; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 15:36:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707223631.C99247DEE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:36:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707180549.00a15340@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 7, 2002  6:13:30 pm"

Did I thank you? Thank you, Bonnie!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:24:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04209
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:24:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81EB3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 18:33:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12805658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 18:39:21 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67MdLZ01878 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:39:21 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws114-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.114]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g67MdIQ02614
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:39:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707123232.34E657E9E@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D284FC3.CD6F6743@maynor.net> <3D287520.20502@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28C310.2123CD7@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:39:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> > My point wasn't specifically to insult you, although that might be a
> > side effect.  Some people really aren't cut out for teaching.  They
> > don't have the patience to try to explain something to somebody who
> > doesn't catch on right away.
>
>         An important teaching skill is intuiting when a student
> really understands, but is pretending not to in order to
> fill another agenda, such as postponing other work, getting
> attention, being a pita, etc.

?  Is this to suggest that I was pretending to not understand whatever
it was?  I don't remember now what it was that I asked about.  I do
remember that Karen gave one of her usual non-answers like uh-huh or
never mind or whatever.  Iirc, Alyce then gave an answer.  It was
something about dvd.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:25:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04216
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:25:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81EBE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 18:34:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12805390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 18:39:45 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67MTjZ00927 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:29:45 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7F98D2E for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun,  7 Jul 2002 17:29:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g67MTiw44762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:29:44
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D289126.46592F36@valstar.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707172534.00a04ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707174747.00b4f7e8@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020707172944.A44749@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:29:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Earth will expire by 2050
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707174747.00b4f7e8@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 05:55:05PM -0400

On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 05:55:05PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> However, as I've said before, I do hold some degree of optimism for
> humanity's ability to muddle through, if (and it's a big if) the
> politicians and religious leaders will let us alone.

Oh my ASS!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:33:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04228
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:33:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81F22@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 18:42:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12805841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 18:47:59 -0400
Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g67MlxZ02478 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002
          18:47:59 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-82-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.82.119]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g67MlwI63132 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002
          18:47:58 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEHFFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:47:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707180549.00a15340@pop3.norton.antivirus>

I don't understand....where is the graham cracker crust???? It is not a
cheesecake if it doesn't have a graham cracker crust.  I'd never had one
without such a crust til I visited NYC.

Sandra

> Ingredients:
>
> 4 8-ounce packages of Philadelphia Cream Cheese
> 16 ounces of sour cream
> 1/4 pound (one stick) of unsalted butter
> 1 teaspoon lemon juice
> 5 eggs
> 1 and 1/4 cups of sugar
> 2 Tablespoons of corn starch
> 1 and 1/4 teaspoons of vanilla
>
> Let cream cheese, sour cream, butter, and eggs sit out of refrigerator for
> at least one hour.  Preheat oven to 375 degrees.
>
> Blend cream cheese, butter, and sour cream.  Add cornstarch, sugar,
> vanilla, and lemon juice.  With an electric mixer set on high speed, beat
> until well blended.  Beat in eggs one at a time (DO NOT add eggs all at
> once.)  Continue beating until mixture is very smooth.
>
> Pour mixture into greased metal 9 inch by 3 inch pan.  (NOT a spring form
> pan.  I found this size pan very difficult to find.)  Place in larger pan
> filled with enough warm water to come halfway up the side of the cake pan.
>
> Bake for one hour or until top is golden brown.  Turn off oven.  Let cake
> cool in oven with door open for one hour.  Remove and let stand for two
> hours.  Turn over onto serving plate and remove cake pan.  Cover and
> refrigerate for at least six hours before serving.  The cake will get
> better and better (up to a point) as it sits in the refrigerator
> because it
> loses moisture and gets creamier and denser.
>
>
>     --bonniev
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:34:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04235
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:34:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FD14C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 18:48:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12805859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 18:48:34 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67MmXZ02528 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:48:34 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws114-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.114]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g67MmVQ03688
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:48:32 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707172927.30BE37C64@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D287C79.89BB2E87@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28C53A.9EF345B9@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:48:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Natalie, it will remind you of your happy days in Japan if you can bring
> yourself to click this URL:
>
> http://www.neisd.net/isa/travel/taka2001/12.htm

I did, and I did like it, although I didn't click to enlarge any of the
pictures and didn't click onward to follow that long string of pages
numbered at the bottom of the first page.  Looking at it inspired me to
click on a similar url:
http://www.msstate.edu/Archives/Words-L/japan.html

I haven't looked at those pictures in a long time.  I decided, however,
not to do that now since I need to log off for a little while and then
come back and catch up on the mail I'm way behind in.  I shall return to
my url at some point, though, to look at my own pictures and maybe even
listen to the sounds.  I need to get inspired because some Japanese
friends are going to be visiting here soon.  They're going to stay with
somebody else -- more room plus a pool, but I'm having them and others
to dinner one night and will spend time doing various other things with
them.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:38:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04240
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:38:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81F54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 18:47:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12805925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 18:53:21 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f122.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.122]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67MrKZ02819 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:53:21 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          7 Jul 2002 15:53:15 -0700
Received: from 64.152.161.38 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 07
          Jul 2002 22:53:15 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [64.152.161.38]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2002 22:53:15.0430 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[14249C60:01C22609]
Message-ID:  <F122mjOHaeKyf9kaN3g00009408@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:53:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>I can take it to the party I'm going to next weekend and leave half
>the leftovers there.

Isn't the appropriate thing to leave ALL of the leftovers there??!

This came up yesterday in conversation. Ya'll might remember the block party
I was attending a couple of weeks ago. My chicken fajita wraps (using
leftover salsa, guacamole, and roasted red peppers from my weekend
entertaining -- good planning) were a huge hit, and when we were leaving,
the party was still going pretty strong. I took my tray, but transferred the
few remaining wraps to a paper plate. *uc* witnessed my doing this and said,
"Aren't you going to bring them home?" Now this guy is rarely tacky, but
this would to me be the epitome of tackiness. I forgave him when he said,
"But they're so good..."

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:41:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04247
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:41:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FD18F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 18:55:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12805980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 18:55:38 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f271.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.146]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67MtcZ02976 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:55:38 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          7 Jul 2002 15:55:33 -0700
Received: from 64.152.161.38 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 07
          Jul 2002 22:55:32 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [64.152.161.38]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2002 22:55:33.0041 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[662A6210:01C22609]
Message-ID:  <F271A6p5o7obka0jvjz0000944c@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:55:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
>I don't understand....where is the graham cracker crust???? It is not a
>cheesecake if it doesn't have a graham cracker crust.  I'd never had one
>without such a crust til I visited NYC.

IME, most NY style cheesecake does have a graham cracker crust.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:46:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04262
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:46:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81FB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 18:56:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806189 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:01:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67N1RZ03471 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:01:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 705C97DEE; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 16:01:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707230126.705C97DEE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:01:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F122mjOHaeKyf9kaN3g00009408@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 7, 2002  6:53:15 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> >I can take it to the party I'm going to next weekend and leave half
> >the leftovers there.
>
> Isn't the appropriate thing to leave ALL of the leftovers there??!

It depends.

> This came up yesterday in conversation. Ya'll might remember the block party
> I was attending a couple of weeks ago. My chicken fajita wraps (using
> leftover salsa, guacamole, and roasted red peppers from my weekend
> entertaining -- good planning) were a huge hit, and when we were leaving,
> the party was still going pretty strong. I took my tray, but transferred the
> few remaining wraps to a paper plate. *uc* witnessed my doing this and said,
> "Aren't you going to bring them home?" Now this guy is rarely tacky, but
> this would to me be the epitome of tackiness. I forgave him when he said,
> "But they're so good..."

:)

If the party were going strong when I left, I'd definitely leave all
the leftovers. I might just make a big one to take and a small one for
me. I don't know. I haven't thought much about this yet.

At the potluck that I had a few weeks ago, some people left their food
*and* their containers. I thought that was tacky, because I had to
expend considerable effort getting stuff back to people.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:49:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04267
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:49:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81FC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 18:58:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:03:38 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67N3cZ03611 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:03:38 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws97-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.97]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g67N3ZQ05371
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:03:36 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707135335.00a14c50@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28C8C1.E3DC649@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:03:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: the Mississippi mess
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> That doesn't work.  I take it "The Golden Rule" is "do unto others as you
> would have them do unto you."  Personally, I would like to be left the fuck
> alone.  And I'm willing to do that to others.  Thus, I'm golden without
> reaching out.

Welcome back, Bonniemae!  We've needed your insights!

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:49:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04274
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:49:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81FC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 18:58:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:03:44 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f226.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.226]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67N3iZ03617 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:03:44 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          7 Jul 2002 16:03:39 -0700
Received: from 64.152.161.38 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 07
          Jul 2002 23:03:38 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [64.152.161.38]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2002 23:03:39.0157 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[87E9CC50:01C2260A]
Message-ID:  <F226n4yOeb7KlJztqKD0000950b@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:03:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: I am soooo lucky...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: "Karen Kay" <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > The more I hear about the flooding, the happier I am that I live on
> > top of a hill.

Me too. We don't actually live at the top of a hill, but most of the way up.
There's a drain at the base of our driveway, and the water runs right under
our garage. I suppose if it got bad, a river would run right through our
backyard, but gravity would leave any real damage to the lowlanders.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com

_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:52:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04278
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:52:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FD1D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:06:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:06:57 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67N6cZ03742 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:06:43 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws97-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.97]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g67N6SQ05733
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:06:28 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707143050.00a00680@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28C96E.7F17F963@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:06:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Kid's schoolbook 1938
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> Personally, I've seen more cotton in Texas than in any other state.  Not
> that I've spent a lot of time in any Southern state other than Tennessee,
> Alabama, and North Carolina.  There were shrink-wrapped bales of cotton
> everywhere in the September of 1991 when I drove from Tennessee to Austin, TX.

I'm not sure what shrink-wrapped bales of cotton are.  But you need to
come to the Delta Blues Festival in Greenville, MS.  It's always the
third Saturday in September, a perfect time for cotton fields in their
prime -- miles and miles of Delta cotton fields in all directions.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:53:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04285
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:53:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FD1DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:07:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:07:55 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67N7tZ03892 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:07:55 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws97-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.97]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g67N7rQ05879
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:07:53 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707192613.CEF407D26@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28C9C3.1C3A625C@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:07:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> >  >lovely respite in the 1970's.
> >
> > And we are having a lovely respite in the 1950s.  Quite nostalgic.  My
> > youth.   I'm assuming the green grocer's punctuation was pointed out a week
> > ago.
>
> Is that a greengrocer's?!

I think your form is still considered acceptable in the usage handbooks.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:53:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04289
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:53:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E81FE2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:02:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:07:58 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f184.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.184]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67N7wZ03896 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:07:58 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          7 Jul 2002 16:07:49 -0700
Received: from 64.152.161.38 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 07
          Jul 2002 23:07:49 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [64.152.161.38]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2002 23:07:49.0377 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[1D0E5710:01C2260B]
Message-ID:  <F184l8AhniSuFpHhIku000093e6@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:07:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>>
> > Isn't the appropriate thing to leave ALL of the leftovers there??!
>
>It depends.

On...?

I agree that if you are there at the very end of the party, when leftovers
are often being doled out, it might be okay to take back some of your cake.
But I still can't see that ever taking *half* of the leftovers would be
okay.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:57:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04298
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:57:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82007@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:06:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:12:11 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67N2BZ03555 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:02:11 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g67N2AOI018828 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:02:10 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207071900420.3709-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:02:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: NYTimes.com Article: The New Retirement Comes in
              FourFinancial Flavors - extract
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28C24F.48F8BD59@maynor.net>

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>"new" is in the title.  I glanced at the article Bethany sent us, saw
>nothing particularly interesting (or <new>) about it, and wondered why
>she posted it.

I was afraid you might not have anything to delete today otherwise.
Seriously - my impression is that several of us are planning
retirement. While I have never <matched> a chart or list of <types> like
the one in the article, I sometimes learn from looking at how it looks to
someone else.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:57:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04305
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:57:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FD1FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:12:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:12:26 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f34.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.34]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67NCPZ04276 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:12:25 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          7 Jul 2002 16:12:20 -0700
Received: from 64.152.161.38 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 07
          Jul 2002 23:12:20 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [64.152.161.38]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2002 23:12:20.0448 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[BEA07E00:01C2260B]
Message-ID:  <F34vv9W0HsMqfRT6uaC00009430@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:12:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
>> > Yes, I love to bake, and the key is to have somebody to feed
>> > it all to so I don't eat it (except for a very little bit).
>
>Yes, that's one of the reasons I like working at the Inn on Tuesdays.  I
>get to bake coffee cakes with a real counter-top stand mixer which I don't
>even own.  And I get to bake cookies and sometimes breads.  I don't have to
>eat any of it.

I would love this. I made a blueberry pie last weekend and we were still
nibbling it out of the pan in the fridge (for breakfast) this morning. Now I
want another...

This particular pie is very interesting. It's an open-faced pie. You prebake
the crust, then cook 1/3 of the berries with sugar and stuff (cornstarch I
think), then quickly fold in the rest of the berries, pour into the crust
and let set.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:58:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04309
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:58:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82021@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:07:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:12:37 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67NCbZ04299 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:12:37 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws97-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.97]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g67NCXQ06442
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:12:33 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707174731.D231F7D02@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D288FF9.3000907@swbell.net> <3D2892E7.42EB5DF5@valstar.net>
            <3D28955D.3070707@swbell.net> <3D28974A.81A8FBC1@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28CADB.9AE9E64D@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:12:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> >         Is there another way to make frosting?
>
> I understand that they use margarine in the South.

I've never heard of anybody in the South making frosting.  That's a
Yankee thing.  We make icing in the South -- but not me.  I've never had
an occasion to make icing.  My guess is that people into that kind of
thing would use butter, though.  If my mother had made icing, she
wouldn't have used butter, of course, but I don't think she ever made
any icing.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:58:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04313
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:58:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82022@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:07:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:12:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67NCeZ04304 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:12:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B2A267CF8; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 16:12:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707231239.B2A267CF8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:12:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F184l8AhniSuFpHhIku000093e6@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 7, 2002  7: 7:49 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>>
> > > Isn't the appropriate thing to leave ALL of the leftovers there??!
> >
> >It depends.
>
> On...?

When you're leaving, how much you're taking.

> I agree that if you are there at the very end of the party, when leftovers
> are often being doled out, it might be okay to take back some of your cake.
> But I still can't see that ever taking *half* of the leftovers would be
> okay.

I know that I have done this, but now that you mention it, it was
probably at the insistence of the host. Anyway, that's not till next
week, and My Newest Friend is coming for dessert *tomorrow*!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:59:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04321
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:59:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8203D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:08:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:13:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67NDfZ04410 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:13:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 05ACF7CF5; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 16:13:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707231340.05ACF7CF5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:13:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F34vv9W0HsMqfRT6uaC00009430@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 7, 2002  7:12:20 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> I would love this. I made a blueberry pie last weekend and we were still
> nibbling it out of the pan in the fridge (for breakfast) this morning. Now I
> want another...
>
> This particular pie is very interesting. It's an open-faced pie. You prebake
> the crust, then cook 1/3 of the berries with sugar and stuff (cornstarch I
> think), then quickly fold in the rest of the berries, pour into the crust
> and let set.

RECIPE!!!! Please.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:59:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04325
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:59:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8204C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:08:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:13:54 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67N3sZ03631 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:03:54 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g67N3rOI019061 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:03:53 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207071902350.3709-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:03:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707180549.00a15340@pop3.norton.antivirus>

Thanks for posting, bonnie - I love to make cakes, and cheesecakes are
toward the top. I'll try this soon, maybe for an August PF party.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 12:59:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04329
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 12:59:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FD208@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:14:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:14:11 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67NEBZ04446 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:14:11 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws97-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.97]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g67NE9Q06708
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:14:09 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707192613.CEF407D26@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2897FC.9A3F9123@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28CB3B.DC22779@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:14:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: life in TN
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> I find the apostrophe annoying, because if they speak of the eighties,
> for instance, it becomes '80's, which is damned ugly.

I also find it ugly -- even without the preceding ' -- 1980's is just
plain uglier to my eyes than 1980s.  But I do think it's still
acceptable.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 13:00:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04339
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 13:00:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FD20C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:15:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:15:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67NFPZ04569 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:15:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 93E717CB1; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 16:15:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707231524.93E717CB1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:15:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28CADB.9AE9E64D@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  6:12:27 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> If my mother had made icing, she
> wouldn't have used butter, of course, but I don't think she ever made
> any icing.

Wow. That amazes me, that you could live your whole life without ever
making frosting/icing. Did she never make cakes?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 13:01:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04343
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 13:01:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82064@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:10:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:16:16 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67NGGZ04636 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:16:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9A1E17CF3; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 16:16:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707231615.9A1E17CF3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:16:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: life in TNt
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28CB3B.DC22779@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  6:14: 3 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> I also find it ugly -- even without the preceding ' -- 1980's is just
> plain uglier to my eyes than 1980s.  But I do think it's still
> acceptable.

I (obviously) think so, too.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 13:03:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04347
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 13:03:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82083@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:12:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:17:44 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67NHiZ04771 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:17:44 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws97-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.97]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g67NHgQ07070
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:17:42 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707202541.17F857E15@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28CC10.3EE0DB6A@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:17:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I consider Pilates a necessity, like food and shelter.

Do you have to write that down on the unemployment forms?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 13:05:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04351
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 13:05:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E820A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:14:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:19:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67NJoZ04933 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:19:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 017F97CF5; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 16:19:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020707231949.017F97CF5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:19:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28CC10.3EE0DB6A@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  6:17:36 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I consider Pilates a necessity, like food and shelter.
>
> Do you have to write that down on the unemployment forms?

No. I don't have to write that I consider food and shelter necessities,
either.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 13:14:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04385
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 13:14:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8215E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:23:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:28:55 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67NStZ05554 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:28:55 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws97-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.97]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g67NSrQ08404
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:28:53 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000301c224a9$eee73d00$9a26ee41@computer>
            <3D26DA92.CF85B963@maynor.net>
            <000601c225f5$9e2909a0$3226ee41@computer>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28CEAF.D38CB3C5@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:28:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bogris01 transcripted:

> Next year I will have 28 years with 3/4 year of sick/personal
> days. Am on PERS.  Will teach maybe two more years to get 30 if
> enrollment holds up--Vocational Education, Business Computer
> Technology.  Attended a retirement seminar and got a printout of
> projected retirement income based on last year.  I plan to get a
> job parttime if I retire.  COLA will help.  Also want to see if
> medical insurance will be taken care of within next two years.

That's right -- there is something in the works about a help for medical
insurance.  I'd forgotten about that.  And I don't know whether it's
retroactive (meaning I don't know whether I'll get whatever break it
is).  But the amount I have to pay for medical insurance is less than
the amount that I was having to pay to social security, the retirement
system, and state income tax.  (There's no state income tax on state
retirement pay.)  Re COLA, the sooner you retire, the bigger it gets.  A
funny -- I said when filling out forms in the Human Resources office not
long ago, "What in the shit is COLA?"  Then I said, before they could
respond, "Ahhh -- the 13th check."  They laughed and nodded and said,
"Yes -- the official name of the 13th check is COLA."

Anyway, her 28 years put her in good shape.  Supposedly there's some
kind of break at 28 years that isn't present at 25 years -- something
about the rate at which the 13th check increases.

We really do have an excellent retirement system.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 13:17:12 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04397
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 13:17:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FD26D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:31:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:31:42 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67NVgZ05814 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:31:42 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws97-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.97]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g67NVdQ08839
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:31:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D28ACE3.56334902@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28CF56.D756C829@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:31:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: animal rescue
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:
>
> THere is a new thing like the hunger site for feeding animals in need.
> You can find it on a tab at the top of the hunger site:
> http://www.thehungersite.com

<sigh>.  I posted this info many days ago.  It's been a link on my web
page for several days now.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 13:35:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04417
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 13:35:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82241@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:44:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:50:04 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f96.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.96]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67No4Z07169 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:50:04 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          7 Jul 2002 16:49:58 -0700
Received: from 64.152.161.38 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 07
          Jul 2002 23:49:58 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [64.152.161.38]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2002 23:49:58.0843 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[00BC38B0:01C22611]
Message-ID:  <F96iBRyZ0DlB0yrjuiI00009613@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:49:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > This particular pie is very interesting. It's an open-faced pie. You
>prebake
> > the crust, then cook 1/3 of the berries with sugar and stuff (cornstarch
>I
> > think), then quickly fold in the rest of the berries, pour into the
>crust
> > and let set.
>
>RECIPE!!!! Please.

It's on epicurious -- but from the Pie and Pastry Bible. Search for
"Open-Faced Fresh Blueberry Pie". My recommendation is to cook the
later-added berries just a tiny bit to get rid of the rawness of them, as I
said in my review of the recipe. It was good in any case, but I'm sure it
could be improved upon.

Confession: I used a premade Pillsbury crust -- not frozed, but refrigerated
and folded. I found it to be quite good and will use it again. Making pie
crust puts me in a foul mood.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 13:40:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04424
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 13:40:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82285@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:49:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:55:00 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67NsxZ07482 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:54:59 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g67NswJ15087 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:54:58
          -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020707220250.3C8487DF6@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000b01c22611$ebaedbc0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:56:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: I am soooo lucky...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Kay" <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
To: <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: I am soooo lucky...


> Doris Markland said:
> > My grandson and his wife and baby were on the road
> > last week, making their move from California to San
> > Antonio, where they've bought a house on the NW
> > edge of the city.  I was worried they'd find their new
> > house under water, but it was fine.
>
> Hey! Only an hour and a half from me!!! You have no excuse not to
visit.
>
> Karen

Well, you know that my daughter lives in Columbus,
and that's probably even closer.

                        - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 13:43:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04436
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 13:43:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82299@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:52:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 19:58:03 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f9.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.9]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g67Nw2Z07685 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:58:02 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          7 Jul 2002 16:57:57 -0700
Received: from 64.152.161.38 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 07
          Jul 2002 23:57:57 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [64.152.161.38]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2002 23:57:57.0366 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[1DF50960:01C22612]
Message-ID:  <F9UjNvYCacKwc6p4Ldd0000947c@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:57:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
>-- not frozed, but

HA! Frozed!

(I would never use a frozed crust)

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 13:46:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04450
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 13:46:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E822B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 19:55:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:01:01 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68011Z07929 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:01:01 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6800xD25110 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:00:59 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207071859320.25054-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:00:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F9UjNvYCacKwc6p4Ldd0000947c@hotmail.com>

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Marie Ascher wrote:

> HA! Frozed!

Allan has a thirdhand anecdote that ends with somebody yelling "Who chunk
that friz cat on me."  (=Who threw that frozed cat at me)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 13:54:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04465
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 13:54:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E822F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:03:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:08:36 -0400
Received: from mail.infochan.com (mail.infochan.com [208.52.68.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6808YZ08517 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:08:34 -0400
Received: from [192.168.254.13] ([208.138.22.79]) by mail.infochan.com
          (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with
          ESMTP id com for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:08:27
          -0500
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B94E422D.DEB9%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:08:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Earth will expire by 2050
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707172534.00a04ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

On 7/7/2002 4:27 PM, bonniev wrote:

>> Per the Guardian (UK). I am glad that I will not be around. Bonnie, you
>> will just miss it if you live to be 90.
>> http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,750783,00.html
>> alyce
>
> I can't buy into this stuff anymore.  They used to say the Great Lakes were
> polluted beyond any ability to reclaim them.  But they did reclaim
> them.  They used to say that if we didn't all practice Zero Population
> Growth immediately we would be elbowing people off the planet in no
> time.  But now that doesn't seem to be as great of a problem.  Instead of
> believing the doomsayers, I'm going to believe that science can fix
> anything we mess up.

But maybe what motivates science to fix the stuff we mess up, what directs
funding & researchers interest, is the force created when enough people buy
into the scare stories. Maybe if we don't buy into it the problems won't get
fixed.

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:02:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04490
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:02:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82326@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:11:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:17:14 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680HEZ09158 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:17:14 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-7.panax.com [63.163.42.7]) by
          mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680HDj19683 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:17:13 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707180549.00a15340@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707201621.00a08580@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:16:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020707223631.C99247DEE@yellow.rahul.net>

>Did I thank you? Thank you, Bonnie!
>Karen

You are welcome, you sweet-voiced child.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:03:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04494
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:03:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FD406@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:18:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:18:29 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680ITZ09247 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:18:29 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-7.panax.com [63.163.42.7]) by
          mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680ISj19888 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:18:28 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707180549.00a15340@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707201735.00a0d520@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:18:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEHFFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

>I don't understand....where is the graham cracker crust???? It is not a
>cheesecake if it doesn't have a graham cracker crust.  I'd never had one
>without such a crust til I visited NYC.      --Sandra

No crust whatsoever and no layer of sour cream.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:07:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04498
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:07:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82351@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:16:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:21:56 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680LuZ09498 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:21:56 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-7.panax.com [63.163.42.7]) by
          mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680Lbj20206 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:21:37 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707143050.00a00680@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707202023.00a0e340@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:21:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Kid's schoolbook 1938
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28C96E.7F17F963@maynor.net>

>I'm not sure what shrink-wrapped bales of cotton are.
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

That white plastic that they put around the bale.  I saw some
white-enshrouded bales in interior Maine on Wednesday.  I'm confident it
was not cotton.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:08:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04505
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:08:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82355@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:17:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:23:08 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680N8Z09596 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:23:08 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws159-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.159]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g680N6Q15285
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:23:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F122mjOHaeKyf9kaN3g00009408@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28DB64.A5A36D74@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:23:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

> Isn't the appropriate thing to leave ALL of the leftovers there??!
...
> the party was still going pretty strong. I took my tray, but transferred the
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
In that case, yes.  I think you did exactly the right thing by
transferring your leftowvers to a paper plate and taking your tray.  I
tend to take stuff on a paper plate or otherwise nonwantable vessel
(that looks funny -- is it vessle?) on such an occasion.  I think it's
bad to leave containers with a host of such a party since that leads to
a returning hassle.  But I do think that leaving all the food is
appropriate if the party is still going on.  If the party is about to
die, I ask the hosts if they want whatever is left of my stuff -- and
ask in a convincing way, explaining that I really hate leftover food and
will no doubt throw it away.  If I can tell that they really don't want
to be saddled with it, then I take it home.  If there's the slightest
hint that they might want it, then I leave it with them (sans
vessel/vessel).

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:10:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04509
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:10:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82367@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:19:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:25:07 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680F7Z09022 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:15:07 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g680F6OI028292 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:15:06 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072014220.4165-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:15:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

It's too hot here to be outside after mid-morning if it is not absolutely
necessary. About 5:30 p.m. today, it was still 93 in Knoxville.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:10:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04513
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:10:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82368@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:19:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:25:17 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680PHZ09698 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:25:17 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-205.panax.com
          [63.163.41.205]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g680PFj20638 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:25:15
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707174747.00b4f7e8@mail.panax.com>
            <3D289126.46592F36@valstar.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707172534.00a04ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707174747.00b4f7e8@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707202124.00b56d58@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:21:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Earth will expire by 2050
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020707172944.A44749@pobox.com>

At 05:29 PM 7/7/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:
>On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 05:55:05PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> > However, as I've said before, I do hold some degree of optimism for
> > humanity's ability to muddle through, if (and it's a big if) the
> > politicians and religious leaders will let us alone.
>
>Oh my ASS!

very likely.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:10:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04517
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:10:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82369@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:19:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:25:19 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680PJZ09703 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:25:19 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-205.panax.com
          [63.163.41.205]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g680PHj20644 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:25:18
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707180549.00a15340@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707202311.00b597e8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:25:12 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEHFFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

At 03:47 PM 7/7/2002 -0700, sandra wrote:
>I don't understand....where is the graham cracker crust???? It is not a
>cheesecake if it doesn't have a graham cracker crust.  I'd never had one
>without such a crust til I visited NYC.

This smacks of the same sort of culinary horseshit that is involved in the
discussion of <what is> a true chowder.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:14:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04521
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:14:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82374@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:23:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:28:36 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680SaZ09865 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:28:36 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws159-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.159]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g680SXQ16152
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:28:34 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207071900420.3709-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28DCAC.895FAC28@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:28:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: NYTimes.com Article: The New Retirement Comes inFourFinancial
              Flavors - extract
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >"new" is in the title.  I glanced at the article Bethany sent us, saw
> >nothing particularly interesting (or <new>) about it, and wondered why
> >she posted it.
>
> I was afraid you might not have anything to delete today otherwise.

I was thinking that was yesterday.  But I dunno.  Today has been busy.

> Seriously - my impression is that several of us are planning
> retirement. While I have never <matched> a chart or list of <types> like
> the one in the article, I sometimes learn from looking at how it looks to
> someone else.

I've read lots of stuff about retirement through the years.  It's the
kind of thing I tend to read in magazines.  In my admittedly very quick
glance at the article you posted, I found the idea of <types> in
relation to income kind of funny.  I'm not sure why exactly.  I'd have
to look at it again to explain why.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:15:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04533
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:15:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FD4A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:30:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:30:13 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680UCZ10001 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:30:12 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-7.panax.com [63.163.42.7]) by
          mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680UBj21121 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:30:11 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEHFFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707180549.00a15340@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707202804.00a04ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:29:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707202311.00b597e8@mail.panax.com>

>This smacks of the same sort of culinary horseshit that is involved in the
>discussion of <what is> a true chowder.
>cwv

Which reminds me, I was served Core Sound clam chowder on the coast of
Maine.  I was stunned.  I love Core Sound clam chowder.  Maybe I even love
it more than New England Clam Chowder.   But I had never seen it in Maine
until last Monday in a tiny town called Port Clyde where the ferry left for
Monhegan Island.  Core Sound is water-based whereas New England is milk-based.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:16:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04537
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:16:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FD4A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:30:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:30:35 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680UZZ10006 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:30:35 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws159-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.159]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g680UXQ16462
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:30:33 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F226n4yOeb7KlJztqKD0000950b@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28DD23.5ADE31C7@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:30:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: I am soooo lucky...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

> >From: "Karen Kay" <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > > The more I hear about the flooding, the happier I am that I live on
> > > top of a hill.
>
> Me too. We don't actually live at the top of a hill, but most of the way up.

I also am on a hill, but I've noticed that flood patterns can be very
strange.  I don't really think there's any chance of flood waters
climbing my hill, but I know that many houses that sit way down in holes
don't get flooded when some on higher ground do.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:16:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04586
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:16:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FD4AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:31:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:31:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680V9Z10032 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:31:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws159-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.159]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g680V2Q16502
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:31:02 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207071902350.3709-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28DD41.D283E7C4@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:30:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> toward the top. I'll try this soon, maybe for an August PF party.

What's a PF party?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:18:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04590
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:18:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8238E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:27:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:32:39 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680WdZ10118 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:32:39 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws159-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.159]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g680WaQ16662
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:32:36 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707231524.93E717CB1@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28DD9E.AC019D12@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:32:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > If my mother had made icing, she
> > wouldn't have used butter, of course, but I don't think she ever made
> > any icing.
>
> Wow. That amazes me, that you could live your whole life without ever
> making frosting/icing. Did she never make cakes?

Not that I remember.  Is making cakes a <requirement> in life?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:23:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04596
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:23:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E823AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:32:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:37:33 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680bXZ10444 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:37:33 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-7.panax.com [63.163.42.7]) by
          mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680bVj22084 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:37:32 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707203411.009e8d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:37:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: loosestrife
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

 >Marie Ascher wrote:
 >> Alyce, It's only the purple loosestrife that you're concerned about,
right?

 >Yes. Never heard of yellow. I love ladies' mantle--such a pretty shape and
 >pale green color. alyce

I know the answer to this!  Yellow loosestrife is just fine and quite
pretty.  It is native and not invasive.   We saw it at the landscaping
place where our friend Holly forced me to buy $110 worth of plants, mulch,
and compost.   Be careful of what you ask.  I asked for help in
gardening.  She helped alright.  Now I have lovely flower beds to water and
maintain.  I'm not sure I'm happy.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:25:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04610
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:25:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E823D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:34:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:40:22 -0400
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680eMZ10615 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:40:22 -0400
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu
          (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id
          <0.03E823D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:34:56 -0400
Message-ID:  <200207080040.g680eMZ10615@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:40:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne <harwell@PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:19:49 -0700, Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:

>No. I don't have to write that I consider food and shelter necessities,
>either.

I shouldn't say this, but I can't resist: how can anyone equate food and
shelter with an airy-fairy new age "exercise" program? Food and shelter are
necessities for survival. Pilates is a luxury.

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:27:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04617
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:27:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E823E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:36:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:41:49 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680fOZ10670 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:41:24 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-166.panax.com
          [63.163.42.166]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g680fMj22501 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:41:22
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707172534.00a04ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707202956.00b50ad0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:38:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Earth will expire by 2050
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B94E422D.DEB9%peterlevy@email.com>

At 07:08 PM 7/7/2002 -0500, peter levy wrote:

>But maybe what motivates science to fix the stuff we mess up, what directs
>funding & researchers interest, is the force created when enough people buy
>into the scare stories. Maybe if we don't buy into it the problems won't get
>fixed.

The chief cause of problems is solutions.

What motivates the doomsayer articles is the apparent inabilty of people
(in the sense that I think you use the term) to do anything right the first
time.  As for science, the principal motivator is simply curiosity
(certainly, the ability to achieve funding in order to pursue one's
curiosity helps).  For every scientist mucking around in the global warming
scenario or DNA engineering, there are fifty others quietly working on
other things that probably will never make the pages of People, the New
York Times, or the Wall Street Journal.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:27:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04620
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:27:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E823E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:36:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:41:49 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680fPZ10674 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:41:25 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-166.panax.com
          [63.163.42.166]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g680fOj22507 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:41:24
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D28C96E.7F17F963@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707143050.00a00680@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707203828.00b628d8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:40:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Kid's schoolbook 1938
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707202023.00a0e340@pop3.norton.antivirus>

At 08:21 PM 7/7/2002 -0400, bonnie wrote:
>>I'm not sure what shrink-wrapped bales of cotton are.
>>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
>That white plastic that they put around the bale.  I saw some
>white-enshrouded bales in interior Maine on Wednesday.  I'm confident it
>was not cotton.

Good guess.  More plausible alternatives are (1) hay or (2) SUV-driving
tourists.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:31:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04634
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:31:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FD540@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:45:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:45:10 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680jAZ10895 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:45:10 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4D5137E2D; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 17:45:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708004509.4D5137E2D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:45:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I am soooo lucky...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000b01c22611$ebaedbc0$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 7, 2002  6:56:31 pm"

Doris Markland said:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karen Kay" <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> To: <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: I am soooo lucky...
>
>
> > Doris Markland said:
> > > My grandson and his wife and baby were on the road
> > > last week, making their move from California to San
> > > Antonio, where they've bought a house on the NW
> > > edge of the city.  I was worried they'd find their new
> > > house under water, but it was fine.
> >
> > Hey! Only an hour and a half from me!!! You have no excuse not to
> visit.
> >
> > Karen
>
> Well, you know that my daughter lives in Columbus,
> and that's probably even closer.

Columbus?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:31:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04639
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:31:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8240A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:40:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:46:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680k5Z10925 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:46:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9DB127C7E; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 17:46:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708004604.9DB127C7E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:46:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707201621.00a08580@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 7, 2002  8:16:55 pm"

bonniev said:
> >Did I thank you? Thank you, Bonnie!
> >Karen
>
> You are welcome, you sweet-voiced child.

Grey-haired crone of a child...

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:31:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04643
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:31:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FD548@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:46:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:46:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680kNZ10935 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:46:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3D4447E5C; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 17:46:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708004623.3D4447E5C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:46:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707201735.00a0d520@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 7, 2002  8:18:10 pm"

bonniev said:
> >I don't understand....where is the graham cracker crust???? It is not a
> >cheesecake if it doesn't have a graham cracker crust.  I'd never had one
> >without such a crust til I visited NYC.      --Sandra
>
> No crust whatsoever and no layer of sour cream.

I hate the layer.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:33:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04647
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:33:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82416@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:42:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:47:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680lcZ11013 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:47:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 250E87E9F; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 17:47:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708004737.250E87E9F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:47:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28DB64.A5A36D74@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  7:23: 0 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> tend to take stuff on a paper plate or otherwise nonwantable vessel
> (that looks funny -- is it vessle?) on such an occasion.  I think it's

No. It's the nonwantable that looks weird.

> hint that they might want it, then I leave it with them (sans
> vessel/vessel).

LOL.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:33:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04653
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:33:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82420@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:42:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:48:22 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680mMZ11080 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:48:22 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-166.panax.com
          [63.163.42.166]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g680mLj23401 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:48:21
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707204540.00b67d90@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:48:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <200207080040.g680eMZ10615@listserv.cc.uga.edu>

At 08:40 PM 7/7/2002 -0400, aht wrote:
>On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:19:49 -0700, Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:
>
> >No. I don't have to write that I consider food and shelter necessities,
> >either.
>
>I shouldn't say this, but I can't resist: how can anyone equate food and
>shelter with an airy-fairy new age "exercise" program? Food and shelter are
>necessities for survival. Pilates is a luxury.

I can't speak for Pilates enthusiasts, but I can confidently say that I
have known rowers for whom rowing was more important than shelter, and
sometimes, food. (And man, could they go fast...)

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:34:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04657
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:34:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82423@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:43:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:48:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680msZ11094 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:48:54 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B5B807E81; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 17:48:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708004853.B5B807E81@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:48:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072014220.4165-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 7, 2002  8:15: 6 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> It's too hot here to be outside after mid-morning if it is not absolutely
> necessary. About 5:30 p.m. today, it was still 93 in Knoxville.

Here, too. I broke down and turned the AC on.

I have to say, Natalie, that I can't believe you have your AC set on
90. Around 85 my speech starts slurring and I start tripping.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:35:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04661
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:35:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FD564@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:50:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:50:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680oHZ11190 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:50:17 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6FCC67D10; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 17:50:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708005014.6FCC67D10@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:50:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28DD41.D283E7C4@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  7:30:57 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
> > toward the top. I'll try this soon, maybe for an August PF party.
>
> What's a PF party?

The P-Farm where Maria lives. Penfield? I can't remember.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:36:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04665
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:36:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82438@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:45:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:50:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680ooZ11207 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:50:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AA8657CA0; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 17:50:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708005049.AA8657CA0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:50:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28DD9E.AC019D12@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  7:32:30 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > If my mother had made icing, she
> > > wouldn't have used butter, of course, but I don't think she ever made
> > > any icing.
> >
> > Wow. That amazes me, that you could live your whole life without ever
> > making frosting/icing. Did she never make cakes?
>
> Not that I remember.  Is making cakes a <requirement> in life?

What a disingenuous question!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:39:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04669
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:39:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82456@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:48:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:54:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680s2Z11377 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:54:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 89F9E7CA0; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 17:54:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708005401.89F9E7CA0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:54:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: loosestrife
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707203411.009e8d90@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 7, 2002  8:37:13 pm"

bonniev said:
>  >Marie Ascher wrote:
>  >> Alyce, It's only the purple loosestrife that you're concerned about,
> right?
>
>  >Yes. Never heard of yellow. I love ladies' mantle--such a pretty shape and
>  >pale green color. alyce
>
> I know the answer to this!  Yellow loosestrife is just fine and quite
> pretty.  It is native and not invasive.   We saw it at the landscaping
> place where our friend Holly forced me to buy $110 worth of plants, mulch,
> and compost.   Be careful of what you ask.  I asked for help in
> gardening.  She helped alright.  Now I have lovely flower beds to water and
> maintain.  I'm not sure I'm happy.

I don't know about your stuff, but except for vegetables and roses
(which the heat has mostly killed:( ), I try not to water. If it ain't
low water once it's established, it ain't planted by me. As for
weeds... What are they? I have seen the 'weeds' in my back yard being
sold for $12 for a small container.

Karen@xeriscapes.r.us

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:43:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04676
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:43:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8246C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:52:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:58:00 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680w0Z11582 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:58:00 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW007IUO0O1X@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 19:58:00 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072014220.4165-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D28E33F.7080002@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:56:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> It's too hot here to be outside after mid-morning if it is not absolutely
> necessary. About 5:30 p.m. today, it was still 93 in Knoxville.


        Wuss.  I'm a GD Yankee and I painted the Spike Michelle
Portico and walkway this afternoon.  In a few minutes, I'm
going jogging.





--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:44:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04683
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:44:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82482@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:53:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 20:59:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g680x8Z11701 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:59:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9A5B77CB8; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 17:59:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708005907.9A5B77CB8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:59:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <200207080040.g680eMZ10615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> from Anne at "Jul
              7, 2002  8:40:21 pm"

Anne said:
> On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:19:49 -0700, Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:
> >No. I don't have to write that I consider food and shelter necessities,
> >either.
>
> I shouldn't say this, but I can't resist: how can anyone equate food and
> shelter with an airy-fairy new age "exercise" program? Food and shelter are
> necessities for survival. Pilates is a luxury.

1) Pilates is not airy-fairy nor new age; I hope I haven't said
   anything that gave that impression.

2) Nor is it an exercise program.

3) It may not be necessary for you, but it's necessary for my physical
   and mental well-being, so I don't consider it a luxury. YMMV.
   Without Pilates, I'd be in pain all the time and unable to walk or
   sit, and I'd be shrinking faster than Natalie.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:45:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04692
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:45:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82492@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:54:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:00:21 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6810LZ11825 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:00:21 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws134-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.134]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6810IQ21168
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:00:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <200207080040.g680eMZ10615@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28E41D.2DDB3615@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:00:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Anne wrote:

> I shouldn't say this, but I can't resist: how can anyone equate food and
> shelter with an airy-fairy new age "exercise" program? Food and shelter are
> necessities for survival. Pilates is a luxury.

I agree.  I find it amazing that any insurance program pays for stuff
like that.  I do believe that our insurance situation in this country is
way out of kilter.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:46:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04696
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:46:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FD5BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:00:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:00:54 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6810sZ11852 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:00:54 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW007LYO5H1X@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 20:00:54 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020707123232.34E657E9E@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D284FC3.CD6F6743@maynor.net> <3D287520.20502@swbell.net>
            <3D28C310.2123CD7@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D28E3ED.5040402@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:59:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>>My point wasn't specifically to insult you, although that might be a
>>>side effect.  Some people really aren't cut out for teaching.  They
>>>don't have the patience to try to explain something to somebody who
>>>doesn't catch on right away.
>>>
>>        An important teaching skill is intuiting when a student
>>really understands, but is pretending not to in order to
>>fill another agenda, such as postponing other work, getting
>>attention, being a pita, etc.
>>
>
> ?  Is this to suggest that I was pretending to not understand whatever
> it was?  I don't remember now what it was that I asked about.  I do
> remember that Karen gave one of her usual non-answers like uh-huh or
> never mind or whatever.  Iirc, Alyce then gave an answer.  It was
> something about dvd.
>


        I have no opinion on the matter, but I think Karen does.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:46:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04700
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:46:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FD5BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:01:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:01:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68114Z11899 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:01:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 42F047CF5; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:01:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708010103.42F047CF5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:01:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707204540.00b67d90@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 7, 2002  8:48:18 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> At 08:40 PM 7/7/2002 -0400, aht wrote:
> >On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:19:49 -0700, Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:
> > >No. I don't have to write that I consider food and shelter necessities,
> > >either.
> >
> >I shouldn't say this, but I can't resist: how can anyone equate food and
> >shelter with an airy-fairy new age "exercise" program? Food and shelter are
> >necessities for survival. Pilates is a luxury.
>
> I can't speak for Pilates enthusiasts, but I can confidently say that I
> have known rowers for whom rowing was more important than shelter, and
> sometimes, food. (And man, could they go fast...)

I'm afraid I'll never be that extreme.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:46:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04704
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:46:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8249E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:56:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:01:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6811SZ11921 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:01:28 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EFBF37CB8; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:01:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708010124.EFBF37CB8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:01:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708005014.6FCC67D10@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at
              "Jul 7, 2002  5:50:14 pm"

Karen Kay said:
> Natalie Maynor said:
> > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
> > > toward the top. I'll try this soon, maybe for an August PF party.
> >
> > What's a PF party?
>
> The P-Farm where Maria lives. Penfield? I can't remember.

Penrose!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:47:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04708
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:47:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E824A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:56:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:02:00 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6811xZ11939 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:02:00 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws134-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.134]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6811vQ21501
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:01:58 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708004853.B5B807E81@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28E480.6D22B248@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:01:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I have to say, Natalie, that I can't believe you have your AC set on
> 90. Around 85 my speech starts slurring and I start tripping.

Why do you think my AC is set on 90?  I set it on 90 if I'm going out of
town, but normally it's on 80, if it's on.  I sometimes don't have it on
at all, of course.  I have the speech slur problem in cold but never in
heat.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:48:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04712
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:48:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E824A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:57:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:02:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6812gZ11992 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:02:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 655797CA3; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:02:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708010241.655797CA3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:02:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28E33F.7080002@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 7,
              2002  7:56:31 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
>         Wuss.  I'm a GD Yankee and I painted the Spike Michelle
> Portico and walkway this afternoon.  In a few minutes, I'm
> going jogging.

That just means you're more used to the sucky humidity.

8:02 and it's 87! Time to turn off the AC.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:48:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04717
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:48:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E824AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 20:57:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:03:16 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6813GZ12073 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:03:16 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW007ALO9F24@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 20:03:15 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020707210036.48A807C82@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D28E47B.6030907@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:01:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: I am soooo lucky...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>        We've already got two failing malls in North County.  I wish
>>they'd re-model those instead.
>>
>
> It's cheaper to build new.


        Not really when you consider creating a blighted neighborhood
requiring TIFF money to revitalize in a few years, but
that's obviously not on the minds of the city planners and
developer.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:50:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04723
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:50:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FD5E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:05:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:05:03 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68152Z12166 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:05:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws134-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.134]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68150Q21974
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:05:01 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708005049.AA8657CA0@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28E537.E1B6F0B9@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:04:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > Not that I remember.  Is making cakes a <requirement> in life?
>
> What a disingenuous question!

I really don't understand your response at all.  But you will of course
reply to my reply with an uh-huh or nevermind.  Can anybody else out
there shed some light on what Karen means?  The question was whether my
mother had ever made a cake.  Afaik, she hasn't.  Neither have I, except
for one time in childhood in a friend's kitchen.  What a mess we made.
Did that one experience make me ok to keep on living?  Is my mother in
jeopardy for not having made a cake?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:53:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04797
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:53:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E824CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:02:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:08:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6818HZ12315 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:08:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7376A7CB4; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:06:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708010650.7376A7CB4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:06:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28E41D.2DDB3615@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  8: 0:13 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> I agree.  I find it amazing that any insurance program pays for stuff
> like that.

No unemployment insurance benefit program dictates what you spend the
money on.

> I do believe that our insurance situation in this country is
> way out of kilter.

I agree, but I'm not sure why you think that has anything to do with
unemployment. In any case, since my fabulous unemployment insurance
benefit doesn't cover my mortgage, it's probably not paying for
Pilates either.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:55:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04809
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:55:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FD602@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:10:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:09:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6819eZ12374 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:09:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B22797C14; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:07:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708010727.B22797C14@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:07:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28E3ED.5040402@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 7,
              2002  7:59:25 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> > Rita Chapman wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>My point wasn't specifically to insult you, although that might be a
> >>>side effect.  Some people really aren't cut out for teaching.  They
> >>>don't have the patience to try to explain something to somebody who
> >>>doesn't catch on right away.
> >>>
> >>        An important teaching skill is intuiting when a student
> >>really understands, but is pretending not to in order to
> >>fill another agenda, such as postponing other work, getting
> >>attention, being a pita, etc.
> >>
> >
> > ?  Is this to suggest that I was pretending to not understand whatever
> > it was?  I don't remember now what it was that I asked about.  I do
> > remember that Karen gave one of her usual non-answers like uh-huh or
> > never mind or whatever.  Iirc, Alyce then gave an answer.  It was
> > something about dvd.
> >
>
>
>         I have no opinion on the matter, but I think Karen does.

On what?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:55:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04812
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:55:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E824DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:04:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:10:11 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681A0Z12387 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:10:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5D8BE7DAA; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:09:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708010914.5D8BE7DAA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:09:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28E480.6D22B248@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  8: 1:52 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Why do you think my AC is set on 90?

Because you said one that you set the furnace on 60 and the AC on
90--both of which amazed me.

> I sometimes don't have it on
> at all, of course.

My cutoff is 90 outisde.

> I have the speech slur problem in cold but never in
> heat.

I don't think I've every had it in cold--I have had brain freeze, though.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:55:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04817
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:55:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FD604@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:10:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:10:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681APZ12436 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:10:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 284C87D6A; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:09:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708010947.284C87D6A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:09:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I am soooo lucky...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28E47B.6030907@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 7,
              2002  8: 1:47 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Rita Chapman said:
> >
> >>        We've already got two failing malls in North County.  I wish
> >>they'd re-model those instead.
> >>
> >
> > It's cheaper to build new.
>
>
>         Not really when you consider creating a blighted neighborhood
> requiring TIFF money to revitalize in a few years, but
> that's obviously not on the minds of the city planners and
> developer.

No. I've never seen a remodeled mall that really worked.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:57:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04822
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:57:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E824E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:06:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:11:41 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681BeZ12507 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:11:40 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws134-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.134]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g681BcQ23539
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:11:39 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708010650.7376A7CB4@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28E6C5.98B5145E@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:11:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > I do believe that our insurance situation in this country is
> > way out of kilter.
>
> I agree, but I'm not sure why you think that has anything to do with
> unemployment.

?  I had thought unemployment was some kind of gov't thing until I asked
about it right here on Words-L.  You and others set me straight on that
and said that it was ordinary insurance.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:57:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04831
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:57:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FD60F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:12:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:12:12 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681CCZ12581 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:12:12 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g681CAHT005581 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:12:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <000301c224a9$eee73d00$9a26ee41@computer>
            <3D26DA92.CF85B963@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707181149.00a3a3c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:12:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000601c225f5$9e2909a0$3226ee41@computer>

At 04:33 PM 7/7/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > About Kay:
> > >  She has been inspired by my tales of
> > > Natalie's retirement, since they are almost exactly the same
>age,
> > > but she will probably have to teach another year at least.
> >
> > Is she teaching in the public school system?  How many years
>does she
> > have?  The minimum for retirement is 25 years, but she could
>retire next
> > year with only 4 years.  I don't think that would produce much
> > retirement income, though.  Anyway, the PERS rule is 25 years
>at any age
> > or 4 years if you're 60 or over.  Unless I had another job
>lined up, I
> > would want at least 30 years of credit.
> >
> > --
> >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
>Kay was so busy shopping and doing chores for us that she never
>got around to posting to words-l.  But here's a rough
>transcription of her response to your questions, Natalie, hastily
>written down  before she left for home, expecting another
>grandchild:
>
>Next year I will have 28 years with 3/4 year of sick/personal
>days. Am on PERS.  Will teach maybe two more years to get 30 if
>enrollment holds up--Vocational Education, Business Computer
>Technology.  Attended a retirement seminar and got a printout of
>projected retirement income based on last year.  I plan to get a
>job parttime if I retire.  COLA will help.  Also want to see if
>medical insurance will be taken care of within next two years.
>
>End of transcription.
>
>On a personal note, she remembered all the wordslers she met at
>Slugfest and sends the best.  I took her around to some of my
>watering holes and always introduced her as Baby Sister instead
>of Big Sister.  I think it pleased her. :)

  I hope that you will bring her to another!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 14:58:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04837
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 14:58:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FD616@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:13:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:13:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681D9Z12642 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:13:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B62897CB4; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:13:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708011303.B62897CB4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:13:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28E537.E1B6F0B9@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  8: 4:55 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > Not that I remember.  Is making cakes a <requirement> in life?
> >
> > What a disingenuous question!
>
> I really don't understand your response at all.

I don't really understand a) why you're asking this question and b)
how you think it is an answerable question.

> The question was whether my
> mother had ever made a cake.  Afaik, she hasn't.  Neither have I, except
> for one time in childhood in a friend's kitchen.  What a mess we made.

So you have made a cake. Did you ice it?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:00:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04847
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:00:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FD62A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:14:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:14:34 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681EYZ12799 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:14:34 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws134-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.134]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g681EUQ24218
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:14:30 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708010914.5D8BE7DAA@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28E770.9770A2EB@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:14:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Because you said one that you set the furnace on 60 and the AC on
> 90--both of which amazed me.

Either that was a typo, or you're misremembering.  Although either is
possible, I suspect the latter.  I set the ac on somewhere between 80
and 85.  The only time I set it on 90 is when I'm about to leave town.

I do set the heat on 60 usually.  (Am I the only one who finds the term
"furnace" weird?  I had to stop and think what Karen meant.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:00:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04852
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:00:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8250A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:09:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:14:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681EiZ12811 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:14:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9BDBC7D2D; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:14:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708011443.9BDBC7D2D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:14:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28E6C5.98B5145E@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  8:11:33 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > > I do believe that our insurance situation in this country is
> > > way out of kilter.
> >
> > I agree, but I'm not sure why you think that has anything to do with
> > unemployment.
>
> ?  I had thought unemployment was some kind of gov't thing until I asked
> about it right here on Words-L.  You and others set me straight on that
> and said that it was ordinary insurance.

I think you misunderstood. It's not *welfare*, I think that's the
misapprehension you were under. But it's not like health insurance or
disability insurance.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:01:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04858
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:01:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82511@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:10:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:16:19 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681GJZ12926 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:16:19 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A3C517CD2; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:16:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708011618.A3C517CD2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:16:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28E770.9770A2EB@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  8:14:24 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Because you said one that you set the furnace on 60 and the AC on
> > 90--both of which amazed me.
>
> Either that was a typo, or you're misremembering.  Although either is
> possible, I suspect the latter.  I set the ac on somewhere between 80
> and 85.  The only time I set it on 90 is when I'm about to leave town.

I don't think I'm misremembering becauser I set it on about 85 myself.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:03:12 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04862
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:03:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FD646@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:17:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:17:41 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681HfZ13021 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:17:41 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws134-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.134]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g681HcQ24955
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:17:38 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708011303.B62897CB4@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28E82C.31714777@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:17:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > > > Not that I remember.  Is making cakes a <requirement> in life?
> > >
> > > What a disingenuous question!
> >
> > I really don't understand your response at all.
>
> I don't really understand a) why you're asking this question and b)
> how you think it is an answerable question.

I asked it because you used the word "amazed" at the thought of
somebody's not making a cake in life.  I couldn't see what was so
amazing about it.  Why were you amazed at the thought?

> > The question was whether my
> > mother had ever made a cake.  Afaik, she hasn't.  Neither have I, except
> > for one time in childhood in a friend's kitchen.  What a mess we made.
>
> So you have made a cake. Did you ice it?

I'm sure we did, although my memory of the whole scene is very vague.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:05:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04867
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:05:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82531@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:14:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:19:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681JZZ13130 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:19:35 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 86D047C49; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:19:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708011934.86D047C49@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:19:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28E82C.31714777@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  8:17:32 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > > > Not that I remember.  Is making cakes a <requirement> in life?
> > > >
> > > > What a disingenuous question!
> > >
> > > I really don't understand your response at all.
> >
> > I don't really understand a) why you're asking this question and b)
> > how you think it is an answerable question.
>
> I asked it because you used the word "amazed" at the thought of
> somebody's not making a cake in life.  I couldn't see what was so
> amazing about it.  Why were you amazed at the thought?

Because I think most people have made cakes at one time or
another. Even you! I would especially think that someone older, before
the age of mixes, would have made one.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:07:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04871
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:07:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FD669@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:22:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:22:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681MIZ13312 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:22:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5A56E7D6A; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:22:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708012217.5A56E7D6A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:22:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F96iBRyZ0DlB0yrjuiI00009613@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 7, 2002  7:49:58 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> It's on epicurious -- but from the Pie and Pastry Bible. Search for
> "Open-Faced Fresh Blueberry Pie". My recommendation is to cook the
> later-added berries just a tiny bit to get rid of the rawness of them, as I
> said in my review of the recipe.

It *sounds* like they expect the cooked berried to be hot enough to
cook the uncooked ones at least slightly. This is very interesting.


Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:13:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04878
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:13:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FD69C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:28:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:28:12 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681ICZ13060 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:18:12 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g681IBOI005271 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:18:11 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072117530.7976-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:18:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28DD41.D283E7C4@maynor.net>

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> toward the top. I'll try this soon, maybe for an August PF party.
>
>What's a PF party?

Penrose Farm, abode of one Maria.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:16:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04893
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:16:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FD6AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:30:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:30:39 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681KbZ13191 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:20:37 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g681KbOI005704 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:20:37 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072120120.7976-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:20:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28E41D.2DDB3615@maynor.net>

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> I shouldn't say this, but I can't resist: how can anyone equate food and
>> shelter with an airy-fairy new age "exercise" program? Food and shelter are
>> necessities for survival. Pilates is a luxury.
>
>I agree.  I find it amazing that any insurance program pays for stuff
>like that.  I do believe that our insurance situation in this country is
>way out of kilter.

Whose insurance pays for Pilates?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:17:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04897
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:17:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8258F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:26:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:31:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681VcZ13947 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:31:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3338C7DB5; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:31:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708013137.3338C7DB5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:31:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072120120.7976-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 7, 2002  9:20:37 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> >> I shouldn't say this, but I can't resist: how can anyone equate food and
> >> shelter with an airy-fairy new age "exercise" program? Food and shelter are
> >> necessities for survival. Pilates is a luxury.
> >
> >I agree.  I find it amazing that any insurance program pays for stuff
> >like that.  I do believe that our insurance situation in this country is
> >way out of kilter.
>
> Whose insurance pays for Pilates?

Unemployment insurance.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:18:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04901
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:18:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82599@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:27:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:32:52 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681MqZ13329 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:22:52 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g681MpOI005984 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:22:51 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072121460.7976-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:22:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28E537.E1B6F0B9@maynor.net>

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>mother had ever made a cake.  Afaik, she hasn't.  Neither have I, except
>for one time in childhood in a friend's kitchen.  What a mess we made.
>Did that one experience make me ok to keep on living?  Is my mother in
>jeopardy for not having made a cake?

No, but some of us may want to know what she did instead. (I won't ask
the obvious question.) Like, where did the children's birthday cakes come
from - if you had birthday cakes?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:19:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04906
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:19:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8259C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:28:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:34:02 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681Y2Z14147 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:34:02 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g681Y0228449 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:34:00 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207072033120.28051-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:34:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708011934.86D047C49@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> Because I think most people have made cakes at one time or
> another. Even you! I would especially think that someone older, before
> the age of mixes, would have made one.

Before the age of mixes, there was an age of cheaper household help, too.
(I think.)

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:20:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04910
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:20:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FD6CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:34:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:34:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681YpZ14175 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:34:51 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 845D27DB5; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:34:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708013450.845D27DB5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:34:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207072033120.28051-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 7, 2002  8:34: 0 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> > Because I think most people have made cakes at one time or
> > another. Even you! I would especially think that someone older, before
> > the age of mixes, would have made one.
>
> Before the age of mixes, there was an age of cheaper household help, too.
> (I think.)

True. My grandmother had help, but made her children learn.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:20:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04914
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:20:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E825A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:29:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:34:59 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681OxZ13447 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:24:59 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g681OxOI006279 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:24:59 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072124120.7976-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:24:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28E770.9770A2EB@maynor.net>

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I do set the heat on 60 usually.  (Am I the only one who finds the term
>"furnace" weird?  I had to stop and think what Karen meant.)

Not if you have a furnace. What else would one call one? (This IS words-l,
right?)

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:23:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04918
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:23:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E825B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:32:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:37:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681bWZ14321 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:37:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4D5977DFB; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:37:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708013731.4D5977DFB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:37:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      For Natalie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From http://www.twc.state.tx.us/ui/bnfts/claimant1.html#ui:

"What is Unemployment Insurance?

Unemployment Insurance (UI) is an employer-paid insurance program that
helps workers who are unemployed through no fault of their own. It
provides temporary financial help to qualified individuals based, on
their previous earnings, while they are looking for other
work. Employer taxes and reimbursements support the Unemployment Trust
Fund. Employers cannot deduct any money from employees' paychecks to
pay for this program."

IOW, they don't give a flying fuck what I spend it on. Why do you?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:28:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04933
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:28:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FD6F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:42:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:42:00 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681W0Z13983 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:32:00 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g681VxOI007506 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:31:59 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072130240.7976-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:31:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      the heat
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Have fun, Rita. I cannot imagine voluntarily spending hours in the sun
when the weather is like this. Short periods or early morning - yes. Hours
in the afternoon in the mid-90s - no. That's crazy.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:28:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04940
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:28:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E825CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:37:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:42:51 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681WpZ14068 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:32:51 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g681WpOI007634 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:32:51 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072132190.7976-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:32:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708013137.3338C7DB5@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> Whose insurance pays for Pilates?
>
>Unemployment insurance.

Directly? As in, your studio bills the gov't?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:31:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04951
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:31:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E825E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:40:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:45:53 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681jqZ14752 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:45:52 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-45.panax.com [63.163.42.45])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681jnj31285 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:45:51 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072014220.4165-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707214242.009fbd00@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:45:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708004853.B5B807E81@yellow.rahul.net>

>I have to say, Natalie, that I can't believe you have your AC set on
>90. Around 85 my speech starts slurring and I start tripping.
>Karen

I have to agree, Karen.  When we got home from Monhegan Island on Wednesday
it was 91 degrees in our upstairs bedroom.  The guests were assigned the
two downstairs bedrooms.  I decided to simply not sleep.  However, by 4:30
a.m. the bedroom had cooled to 75 and I was able to get some sleep up
there.  Before that I napped on the living room couch, under the ceiling
fan.  Clyde went to bed at an appropriate hour.  Nothing deters him from
sleeping for he is pure of heart.  Or so he says.

    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:32:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04955
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:32:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FD70F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:46:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:46:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681kuZ14801 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:46:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1DC3F7DAA; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:46:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708014656.1DC3F7DAA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:46:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072132190.7976-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 7, 2002  9:32:51 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >> Whose insurance pays for Pilates?
> >
> >Unemployment insurance.
>
> Directly? As in, your studio bills the gov't?

NONONONONO!

Natalie was implying that UI pays for Pilates. Actually, it doesn't
even pay my mortgage, so there's nothing left over for Pilates. In any
case, Natalie has no real understanding of unemployment insurance--she
thought it was the same as welfare until the last time we talked about
this.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:34:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04961
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:34:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82603@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:43:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:48:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681mgZ15077 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:48:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BC6D37DF9; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:48:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708014841.BC6D37DF9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:48:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707214242.009fbd00@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 7, 2002  9:45:31 pm"

bonniev said:
> Before that I napped on the living room couch, under the ceiling
> fan.

I've been waking at 3AM and not able to go back to sleep--one of the
ways I try to trick myself is by nappiong on the living room couch
under the ceiling fan.

> Clyde went to bed at an appropriate hour.  Nothing deters him from
> sleeping for he is pure of heart.  Or so he says.

There's gotta be another explanation.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:34:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04965
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:34:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8260A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:44:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:49:28 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681nSZ15151 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:49:28 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-45.panax.com [63.163.42.45])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681nRj31796 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:49:27 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D28E33F.7080002@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707214841.00a19e50@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:49:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708010241.655797CA3@yellow.rahul.net>

>8:02 and it's 87! Time to turn off the AC.
>Karen

9:35 and it's 63.  Time to close some of the windows.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:37:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04969
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:37:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82625@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:46:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:51:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681pjZ15442 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:51:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3E14D7DF9; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:51:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708015144.3E14D7DF9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:51:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707214841.00a19e50@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 7, 2002  9:49: 9 pm"

bonniev said:
> >8:02 and it's 87! Time to turn off the AC.
> >Karen
>
> 9:35 and it's 63.  Time to close some of the windows.

Yup.

One of the nice things about seasons is that soon enough, it'll be
9:35 and 63.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:39:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04978
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:39:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82630@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:48:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:54:12 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681s9Z15626 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:54:10 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-45.panax.com [63.163.42.45])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681s5j32422 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:54:06 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020708005049.AA8657CA0@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707215016.00a186e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:53:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28E537.E1B6F0B9@maynor.net>

>Karen Kay wrote:
> > > Not that I remember.  Is making cakes a <requirement> in life?
> >
> > What a disingenuous question!
>
>I really don't understand your response at all.  But you will of course
>reply to my reply with an uh-huh or nevermind.  Can anybody else out
>there shed some light on what Karen means?
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Karen simply asked, with some surprise, whether or not your mother had ever
baked a cake.  She did not make any value judgement about baking cakes,
their necessity or even there desirability.  You jumped to some kind of
weird conclusion that she thinks you are deprived or your mother depraved
for not baking cakes.  Karen is simply surprised that your mother did not
bake because most of our mothers did in fact bake and frost cakes.

Now, of course, you will say "whatever made you think I thought Karen meant
that."  And the game of words-l goes on.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:41:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04985
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:41:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82635@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 21:50:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 21:56:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g681uHZ15727 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:56:17 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CE4EF7E04; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 18:56:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708015616.CE4EF7E04@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:56:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707215016.00a186e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 7, 2002  9:53:47 pm"

bonniev said:
> Now, of course, you will say "whatever made you think I thought Karen meant
> that."  And the game of words-l goes on.

Thank you, Bonnie. You are spot on. I particularly like the use of 'depraved'.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 15:57:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05084
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 15:57:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E826D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:07:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:12:25 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682CPZ17333 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:12:25 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g682CMQ02936
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:12:23 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708011934.86D047C49@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28F500.5CE7C3D4@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:12:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > I asked it because you used the word "amazed" at the thought of
> > somebody's not making a cake in life.  I couldn't see what was so
> > amazing about it.  Why were you amazed at the thought?
>
> Because I think most people have made cakes at one time or
> another. Even you! I would especially think that someone older, before
> the age of mixes, would have made one.

Well, yes.  There was that day at Amanda's house.  Actually, now that I
think about it, I feel sure we used a mixed.  But I find it odd to think
that most people have made cakes at one time or another.  I don't
consider cake-making as one of life's <typical> acts.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:01:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05103
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:01:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E826ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:10:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:15:37 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682FbZ17667 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:15:37 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g682FZQ03279
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:15:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072121460.7976-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28F5C1.8380DEDE@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:15:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> No, but some of us may want to know what she did instead. (I won't ask
> the obvious question.) Like, where did the children's birthday cakes come
> from - if you had birthday cakes?

Our birthday cakes came from the Jitney Jungle.  How horrible it
would've been to have been faced with a home-made cake instead.  And how
embarrassing if it had been for a birthday party.  Childhood is not a
time when one wants to seem <weird> to one's peers.  Besides, the bday
cakes from Jitney Jungle tasted right.  A substitute would've tasted
wrong.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:02:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05111
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:02:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E826F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:11:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:17:14 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682HEZ17796 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:17:14 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g682HCQ03537
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:17:12 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072124120.7976-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28F622.B0BD09BA@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:17:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> Not if you have a furnace. What else would one call one? (This IS words-l,
> right?)

Yes, this is Words-L, and I like words questions, although I do think
we've talked about this one before.  "Furnace" is just not a word I'm
used to hearing, although it's in my reading vocabulary and I know it
has to do with heat.  What I call my heat is "the heat."

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:07:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05123
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:07:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82717@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:16:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:21:31 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682LVZ18118 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:21:31 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-45.panax.com [63.163.42.45])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682LTj02907 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:21:30 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707214242.009fbd00@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707221752.00a1d0a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:21:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708014841.BC6D37DF9@yellow.rahul.net>

> > Clyde went to bed at an appropriate hour.  Nothing deters him from
> > sleeping for he is pure of heart.  Or so he says.
>
>There's gotta be another explanation.:)
>Karen

Clyde just read your email, shrugged, kissed me goodnight, and went up to
bed where I am certain he will sleep for the next 10 hours -- the sleep of
the just, the secure, the well-fed, and the pure of heart.  Visions of blue
skies and crisply cool nights will dance through his brain as his stomach
digests the lamb roast, garlic potato cake, broccollini, cheesecake, and
wine he has consumed this evening.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:07:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05131
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:07:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82719@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:16:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:21:49 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682LnZ18138 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:21:49 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g682LmHT008798 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:21:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707143050.00a00680@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707192115.00a40ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:21:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Kid's schoolbook 1938
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28C96E.7F17F963@maynor.net>

At 06:06 PM 7/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>bonniev wrote:
>
> > Personally, I've seen more cotton in Texas than in any other state.  Not
> > that I've spent a lot of time in any Southern state other than Tennessee,
> > Alabama, and North Carolina.  There were shrink-wrapped bales of cotton
> > everywhere in the September of 1991 when I drove from Tennessee to
> Austin, TX.
>
>I'm not sure what shrink-wrapped bales of cotton are.  But you need to
>come to the Delta Blues Festival in Greenville, MS.  It's always the
>third Saturday in September, a perfect time for cotton fields in their
>prime -- miles and miles of Delta cotton fields in all directions.

I will do this one day when I retire.  Remind me.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:07:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05135
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:07:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8271C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:16:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:22:12 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682MCZ18204 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:22:12 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g682M9Q04437
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:22:09 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708013450.845D27DB5@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28F74B.FB157DA5@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:22:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > Before the age of mixes, there was an age of cheaper household help, too.
> > (I think.)
>
> True. My grandmother had help, but made her children learn.

My grandmother told my mother, "Anybody who can read can cook."  My
mother told me the same thing.  My grandmother didn't teach my mother
anything about cooking, nor did my mother teach me anything about
cooking.  Their attitudes, like mine, are that -- well, if you can read
you can cook.  If you want to make a cake, look in a cookbook.

I can't imagine my mother ever suggesting that I make a cake, though.
Sure, we had birthday cakes from Jitney Jungle, but that was not the
kind of food that my mother would've recommended for <everyday
consumption>.   I don't really know whether my grandmother ever made a
cake.  My guess is that she probably didn't.  Nor did my mother.  Why
would somebody <make> her children learn?  What's the point?  Are cakes
sacred or something?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:08:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05141
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:08:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82722@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:17:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:23:07 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g682N7Z18265 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002
          22:23:07 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JLC00053; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:23:00 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JVF00188; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:23:00 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D286B0A.6617.204DDD7@localhost>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:23:38 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28F500.5CE7C3D4@maynor.net>

On 7 Jul 2002 at 21:12, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> I don't consider cake-making as one of life's <typical> acts.

Well, I'll wager that more American women have made cakes than have been
to Europe.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:09:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05145
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:09:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82726@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:18:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:23:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682NvZ18304 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:23:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 42E4C7CA3; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 19:23:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708022356.42E4C7CA3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:23:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28F500.5CE7C3D4@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  9:12:16 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Well, yes.  There was that day at Amanda's house.  Actually, now that I
> think about it, I feel sure we used a mixed.  But I find it odd to think
> that most people have made cakes at one time or another.  I don't
> consider cake-making as one of life's <typical> acts.

Well, I betcha more Americans have made cakes than have been to Europe.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:09:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05149
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:09:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8272A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:18:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:24:08 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682O8Z18340 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:24:08 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g682O7HT010872 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:24:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707192234.00a3ccd0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:24:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F34vv9W0HsMqfRT6uaC00009430@hotmail.com>

At 07:12 PM 7/7/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
>>> > Yes, I love to bake, and the key is to have somebody to feed
>>> > it all to so I don't eat it (except for a very little bit).
>>
>>Yes, that's one of the reasons I like working at the Inn on Tuesdays.  I
>>get to bake coffee cakes with a real counter-top stand mixer which I don't
>>even own.  And I get to bake cookies and sometimes breads.  I don't have to
>>eat any of it.
>
>I would love this. I made a blueberry pie last weekend and we were still
>nibbling it out of the pan in the fridge (for breakfast) this morning. Now I
>want another...
>
>This particular pie is very interesting. It's an open-faced pie. You prebake
>the crust, then cook 1/3 of the berries with sugar and stuff (cornstarch I
>think), then quickly fold in the rest of the berries, pour into the crust
>and let set.

Larry made the best blackberry pie. He sent the remaining piece home with
his son! He has been practicing the criss cross pie top. What is that called?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:10:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05153
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:10:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8272C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:19:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:25:12 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682PCZ18394 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:25:12 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW003K9S1Z8V@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 21:25:11 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020708011934.86D047C49@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D28F7AF.6000004@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:23:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Natalie Maynor said:
>
>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Not that I remember.  Is making cakes a <requirement> in life?
>>>>>>
>>>>>What a disingenuous question!
>>>>>
>>>>I really don't understand your response at all.
>>>>
>>>I don't really understand a) why you're asking this question and b)
>>>how you think it is an answerable question.
>>>
>>I asked it because you used the word "amazed" at the thought of
>>somebody's not making a cake in life.  I couldn't see what was so
>>amazing about it.  Why were you amazed at the thought?
>>
>
> Because I think most people have made cakes at one time or
> another. Even you! I would especially think that someone older, before
> the age of mixes, would have made one.


        Didn't you have to learn how to make cakes in home economics
class?  You seem to be the generation that was expected to
be nice housewives.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:10:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05157
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:10:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8272D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:19:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:25:24 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682POZ18402 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:25:24 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g682PLQ04858
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:25:22 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708013731.4D5977DFB@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28F80C.AC439BE8@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:25:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: For Natalie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> "What is Unemployment Insurance?
>
> Unemployment Insurance (UI) is an employer-paid insurance program that

??  Why are you posting this for me?  You answered my question about it
many months ago.  It's not a government thing.  It's an insurance
program.  I didn't know that a year ago, but I do know it now.

> IOW, they don't give a flying fuck what I spend it on. Why do you?

As I said earlier, I find this country's insurance system to be not all
that good.  I'd rather see insurance go to pay basics, with lower
premiums as a result.  I don't think it's good when it pays for <fluff>.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:11:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05161
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:11:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FD84D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:26:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:26:10 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682QAZ18444 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:26:10 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW003LBS3L8V@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 21:26:09 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072130240.7976-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D28F7E9.1090506@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:24:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: the heat
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> Have fun, Rita. I cannot imagine voluntarily spending hours in the sun
> when the weather is like this. Short periods or early morning - yes. Hours
> in the afternoon in the mid-90s - no. That's crazy.
>


When else am I supposed to get everything done?  Not in the
early morning. That's when I sleep.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:12:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05165
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:12:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FD851@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:26:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:26:56 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682QtZ18497 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:26:55 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g682QsHT012333 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:26:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <000301c224a9$eee73d00$9a26ee41@computer>
            <3D26DA92.CF85B963@maynor.net>
            <000601c225f5$9e2909a0$3226ee41@computer>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707192602.00a50100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:26:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28CEAF.D38CB3C5@maynor.net>

At 06:28 PM 7/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>bogris01 transcripted:
>
> > Next year I will have 28 years with 3/4 year of sick/personal
> > days. Am on PERS.  Will teach maybe two more years to get 30 if
> > enrollment holds up--Vocational Education, Business Computer
> > Technology.  Attended a retirement seminar and got a printout of
> > projected retirement income based on last year.  I plan to get a
> > job parttime if I retire.  COLA will help.  Also want to see if
> > medical insurance will be taken care of within next two years.
>
>That's right -- there is something in the works about a help for medical
>insurance.  I'd forgotten about that.  And I don't know whether it's
>retroactive (meaning I don't know whether I'll get whatever break it
>is).  But the amount I have to pay for medical insurance is less than
>the amount that I was having to pay to social security, the retirement
>system, and state income tax.  (There's no state income tax on state
>retirement pay.)  Re COLA, the sooner you retire, the bigger it gets.  A
>funny -- I said when filling out forms in the Human Resources office not
>long ago, "What in the shit is COLA?"  Then I said, before they could
>respond, "Ahhh -- the 13th check."  They laughed and nodded and said,
>"Yes -- the official name of the 13th check is COLA."
>
>Anyway, her 28 years put her in good shape.  Supposedly there's some
>kind of break at 28 years that isn't present at 25 years -- something
>about the rate at which the 13th check increases.
>
>We really do have an excellent retirement system.

I just can't believe that you don't get medical benefits fully covered. We
do after twenty years.  It used to be ten.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:14:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05170
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:14:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82747@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:23:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:29:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682T8Z18728 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:29:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A27DD7C78; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 19:29:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708022907.A27DD7C78@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:29:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28F74B.FB157DA5@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  9:22: 3 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > Before the age of mixes, there was an age of cheaper household help, too.
> > > (I think.)
> >
> > True. My grandmother had help, but made her children learn.
>
> My grandmother told my mother, "Anybody who can read can cook."  My
> mother told me the same thing.  My grandmother didn't teach my mother
> anything about cooking, nor did my mother teach me anything about
> cooking.  Their attitudes, like mine, are that -- well, if you can read
> you can cook.  If you want to make a cake, look in a cookbook.

Cooking is an art. Art is not learned in books.

> Why
> would somebody <make> her children learn?  What's the point?  Are cakes
> sacred or something?

I didn't meant that my grandmother made her children learn to bake
cakes, but they learned basic cooking. Heck, my nephew was baking at
the age of 4.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:15:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05189
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:15:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8274C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:24:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:29:49 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682TnZ18774 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:29:49 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g682TlQ05466
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:29:47 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708014656.1DC3F7DAA@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28F915.C3DFC2A7@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:29:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Natalie was implying that UI pays for Pilates. Actually, it doesn't
> even pay my mortgage, so there's nothing left over for Pilates. In any
> case, Natalie has no real understanding of unemployment insurance--she
                ^^^ wrong
> thought it was the same as welfare until the last time we talked about
> this.

"Has" isn't correct.  "Had" would be.  I didn't understand it until you
and others explained it a year ago or whenever it was that we had this
discussion.

The reason I thought now that it was paying for your Pilates was that I
didn't realize you had an independent source of income.  I had thought
you were living on unemployment.  Obviously I was wrong in that
assumption.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:15:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05193
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:15:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8274D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:24:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:29:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682TnZ18778 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:29:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 19A8B7C78; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 19:29:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708022949.19A8B7C78@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:29:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D286B0A.6617.204DDD7@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 7, 2002  4:23:38 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 7 Jul 2002 at 21:12, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > I don't consider cake-making as one of life's <typical> acts.
>
> Well, I'll wager that more American women have made cakes than have been
> to Europe.

<giggle!>

You owe me a coke!:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:15:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05197
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:15:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82753@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:24:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:30:05 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682U4Z18857 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:30:04 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g682U3HT016433 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:30:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <F122mjOHaeKyf9kaN3g00009408@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707192933.00a3fb20@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:29:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28DB64.A5A36D74@maynor.net>

At 07:23 PM 7/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> > Isn't the appropriate thing to leave ALL of the leftovers there??!
>...
> > the party was still going pretty strong. I took my tray, but
> transferred the
>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>In that case, yes.  I think you did exactly the right thing by
>transferring your leftowvers to a paper plate and taking your tray.  I
>tend to take stuff on a paper plate or otherwise nonwantable vessel
>(that looks funny -- is it vessle?) on such an occasion.  I think it's
>bad to leave containers with a host of such a party since that leads to
>a returning hassle.  But I do think that leaving all the food is
>appropriate if the party is still going on.  If the party is about to
>die, I ask the hosts if they want whatever is left of my stuff -- and
>ask in a convincing way, explaining that I really hate leftover food and
>will no doubt throw it away.  If I can tell that they really don't want
>to be saddled with it, then I take it home.  If there's the slightest
>hint that they might want it, then I leave it with them (sans
>vessel/vessel).

Asking is rude.   Just leave it.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:15:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05202
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:15:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82755@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:24:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:30:17 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g682UHZ18870 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002
          22:30:17 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JLC00186; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:30:11 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JVF00612; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:30:11 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D28F500.5CE7C3D4@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
            2002  9:12:16 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D286CB9.30844.20B7237@localhost>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:30:49 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708022356.42E4C7CA3@yellow.rahul.net>

On 7 Jul 2002 at 19:23, Karen Kay wrote:

> Well, I betcha more Americans have made cakes than have been to
> Europe.

We've got to stop meeting like this.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:16:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05331
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:16:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82759@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:25:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:30:59 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682UxZ18893 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:30:59 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g682UwHT016653 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:30:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207071900420.3709-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707193033.00a3fd20@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:30:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: NYTimes.com Article: The New Retirement Comes inFourFinancial
              Flavors - extract
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28DCAC.895FAC28@maynor.net>

At 07:28 PM 7/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> > >"new" is in the title.  I glanced at the article Bethany sent us, saw
> > >nothing particularly interesting (or <new>) about it, and wondered why
> > >she posted it.
> >
> > I was afraid you might not have anything to delete today otherwise.
>
>I was thinking that was yesterday.  But I dunno.  Today has been busy.

What did you do? Aren't you retired now?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:17:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05352
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:17:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8275E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:26:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:31:48 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682VlZ18949 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:31:48 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9FDC97C77; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 19:30:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708023030.9FDC97C77@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:30:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020707192234.00a3ccd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 7, 2002  7:24: 3 pm"

Betty said:
> At 07:12 PM 7/7/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >>From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
> >>> > Yes, I love to bake, and the key is to have somebody to feed
> >>> > it all to so I don't eat it (except for a very little bit).
> >>
> >>Yes, that's one of the reasons I like working at the Inn on Tuesdays.  I
> >>get to bake coffee cakes with a real counter-top stand mixer which I don't
> >>even own.  And I get to bake cookies and sometimes breads.  I don't have to
> >>eat any of it.
> >
> >I would love this. I made a blueberry pie last weekend and we were still
> >nibbling it out of the pan in the fridge (for breakfast) this morning. Now I
> >want another...
> >
> >This particular pie is very interesting. It's an open-faced pie. You prebake
> >the crust, then cook 1/3 of the berries with sugar and stuff (cornstarch I
> >think), then quickly fold in the rest of the berries, pour into the crust
> >and let set.
>
> Larry made the best blackberry pie. He sent the remaining piece home with
> his son! He has been practicing the criss cross pie top. What is that called?

I used to know... I like those.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:17:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05358
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:17:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8275F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:26:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:31:50 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682VnZ18955 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:31:49 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g682VnHT017828 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:31:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207071902350.3709-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707193135.00a5bb60@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:31:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28DD41.D283E7C4@maynor.net>

At 07:30 PM 7/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> > toward the top. I'll try this soon, maybe for an August PF party.
>
>What's a PF party?

The mind reels.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:18:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05398
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:18:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82763@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:27:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:32:33 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682WWZ19043 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:32:32 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g682WVI00529 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:32:31 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207072132060.516-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:32:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708023030.9FDC97C77@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> > Larry made the best blackberry pie. He sent the remaining piece home with
> > his son! He has been practicing the criss cross pie top. What is that called?
>
> I used to know... I like those.

lattice?

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:18:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05427
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:18:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82769@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:27:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:32:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682WxZ19089 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:32:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 95FC17D17; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 19:31:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708023118.95FC17D17@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:31:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28F7AF.6000004@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 7,
              2002  9:23:43 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
>         Didn't you have to learn how to make cakes in home economics
> class?

Nope.

> You seem to be the generation that was expected to
> be nice housewives.

You must mean Natalie.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:18:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05449
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:18:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8276B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:27:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:33:20 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682XKZ19113 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:33:20 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g682XIQ06066
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:33:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708005049.AA8657CA0@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707215016.00a186e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28F9E8.2E7EF0CD@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:33:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> >Karen Kay wrote:
> > > > Not that I remember.  Is making cakes a <requirement> in life?
> > >
> > > What a disingenuous question!
> >
> >I really don't understand your response at all.  But you will of course
> >reply to my reply with an uh-huh or nevermind.  Can anybody else out
> >there shed some light on what Karen means?
> >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
> Karen simply asked, with some surprise, whether or not your mother had ever
> baked a cake.  She did not make any value judgement about baking cakes,
> their necessity or even there desirability.  You jumped to some kind of
> weird conclusion that she thinks you are deprived or your mother depraved
> for not baking cakes.  Karen is simply surprised that your mother did not
> bake because most of our mothers did in fact bake and frost cakes.
>
> Now, of course, you will say "whatever made you think I thought Karen meant
> that."  And the game of words-l goes on.

No, my question is why Karen found my response "disingenuous."  What's
disingenuous about it?  That's all I'm curious about.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:19:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05479
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:19:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82772@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:28:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:33:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682XoZ19135 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:33:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BF42A7E3E; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 19:33:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708023319.BF42A7E3E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:33:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: For Natalie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28F80C.AC439BE8@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  9:25:16 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> > IOW, they don't give a flying fuck what I spend it on. Why do you?
>
> As I said earlier, I find this country's insurance system to be not all
> that good.

This is a *state* program.

> I'd rather see insurance go to pay basics, with lower
> premiums as a result.  I don't think it's good when it pays for <fluff>.

I'd be happy if it paid for my mortgage. Is that <fluff>?!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:20:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05565
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:20:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82786@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:30:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:35:27 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682ZRZ19289 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:35:27 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g682ZPG00606 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:35:25 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207072134260.562-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:35:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28F9E8.2E7EF0CD@maynor.net>

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> No, my question is why Karen found my response "disingenuous."  What's
> disingenuous about it?  That's all I'm curious about.

I see, sort of a double disingenuosity.  Wanna make it triple?

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:21:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05613
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:21:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8278E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:30:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:36:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682aIZ19350 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:36:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D458A7C78; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 19:36:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708023617.D458A7C78@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:36:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28F915.C3DFC2A7@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  9:29:41 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Natalie was implying that UI pays for Pilates. Actually, it doesn't
> > even pay my mortgage, so there's nothing left over for Pilates. In any
> > case, Natalie has no real understanding of unemployment insurance--she
>                 ^^^ wrong
> > thought it was the same as welfare until the last time we talked about
> > this.
>
> "Has" isn't correct.  "Had" would be.  I didn't understand it until you
> and others explained it a year ago or whenever it was that we had this
> discussion.

I disagree. In any case, it was a couple of months.

> The reason I thought now that it was paying for your Pilates was that I
> didn't realize you had an independent source of income.

Where have you been?! I had contracts after I was laid off; I got paid
for those.

> I had thought you were living on unemployment.  Obviously I was
> wrong in that assumption.

I could not live on unemployment. I've said this several times, that
unemployment falls short of my mortgage amount.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:22:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05661
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:22:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82798@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:31:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:37:10 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682b9Z19447 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:37:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F2E9A7CB5; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 19:37:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708023708.F2E9A7CB5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:37:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D286CB9.30844.20B7237@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 7, 2002  4:30:49 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 7 Jul 2002 at 19:23, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Well, I betcha more Americans have made cakes than have been to
> > Europe.
>
> We've got to stop meeting like this.

Hey, Rashmi phone me today. You and JMW are two of the only holdouts!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:22:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05679
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:22:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8279C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:32:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:37:26 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682bQZ19493 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:37:26 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g682bPHT023032 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:37:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072014220.4165-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707193655.00a56d10@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:37:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708004853.B5B807E81@yellow.rahul.net>

At 05:48 PM 7/7/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Bethany K. Dumas said:
> > It's too hot here to be outside after mid-morning if it is not absolutely
> > necessary. About 5:30 p.m. today, it was still 93 in Knoxville.
>
>Here, too. I broke down and turned the AC on.
>
>I have to say, Natalie, that I can't believe you have your AC set on
>90. Around 85 my speech starts slurring and I start tripping.

75 here.  It doesn't come on very often but this week is supposed to be HOT.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:23:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05689
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:23:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8279D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:32:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:37:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682bXZ19509 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:37:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 934527CA3; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 19:37:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708023732.934527CA3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:37:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708023030.9FDC97C77@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at
              "Jul 7, 2002  7:30:30 pm"

Karen Kay said:
> Betty said:
> > At 07:12 PM 7/7/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > >>From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
> > >>> > Yes, I love to bake, and the key is to have somebody to feed
> > >>> > it all to so I don't eat it (except for a very little bit).
> > >>
> > >>Yes, that's one of the reasons I like working at the Inn on Tuesdays.  I
> > >>get to bake coffee cakes with a real counter-top stand mixer which I don't
> > >>even own.  And I get to bake cookies and sometimes breads.  I don't have to
> > >>eat any of it.
> > >
> > >I would love this. I made a blueberry pie last weekend and we were still
> > >nibbling it out of the pan in the fridge (for breakfast) this morning. Now I
> > >want another...
> > >
> > >This particular pie is very interesting. It's an open-faced pie. You prebake
> > >the crust, then cook 1/3 of the berries with sugar and stuff (cornstarch I
> > >think), then quickly fold in the rest of the berries, pour into the crust
> > >and let set.
> >
> > Larry made the best blackberry pie. He sent the remaining piece home with
> > his son! He has been practicing the criss cross pie top. What is that called?
>
> I used to know... I like those.

Lattice.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:23:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05697
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:23:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FD8AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:37:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:37:35 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682bZZ19519 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:37:35 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g682bXQ06585
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:37:33 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D286B0A.6617.204DDD7@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28FAE7.3AB66662@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:37:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Michael E. Macmillan" wrote:

> Well, I'll wager that more American women have made cakes than have been
> to Europe.

Perhaps.  But not the ones I know.  I think of cake-baking as -- well --
nevermind.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:26:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05849
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:26:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E827BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:35:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:40:29 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682eTZ19790 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:40:29 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g682eSHT026032 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:40:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D28E480.6D22B248@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707194007.00a436e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:40:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708010914.5D8BE7DAA@yellow.rahul.net>

At 06:09 PM 7/7/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Natalie Maynor said:
> > Why do you think my AC is set on 90?
>
>Because you said one that you set the furnace on 60 and the AC on
>90--both of which amazed me.
>
> > I sometimes don't have it on
> > at all, of course.
>
>My cutoff is 90 outisde.
>
> > I have the speech slur problem in cold but never in
> > heat.
>
>I don't think I've every had it in cold--I have had brain freeze, though.

That's brain fart!

BB

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:26:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05886
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:26:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E827C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:35:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:41:05 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682f4Z19853 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:41:04 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g682f2Q07037
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:41:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708011934.86D047C49@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D28F7AF.6000004@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28FBB9.E3E8A89E@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:40:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

>         Didn't you have to learn how to make cakes in home economics
> class?  You seem to be the generation that was expected to
> be nice housewives.

Certainly I expected to be a housewife, but that didn't mean taking home
ec. Talk about calling residence halls dorms or college females coeds.
Home ec sounds like something my mother might have taken (although I've
never heard her say that she did -- I should ask her about that
sometime).

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:29:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06038
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:29:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E827D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:38:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:43:48 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682hlZ20013 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:43:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g682hjQ07402
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:43:46 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000301c224a9$eee73d00$9a26ee41@computer>
            <3D26DA92.CF85B963@maynor.net>
            <000601c225f5$9e2909a0$3226ee41@computer>
            <4.2.2.20020707192602.00a50100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28FC5C.ADBB3435@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:43:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> I just can't believe that you don't get medical benefits fully covered. We
> do after twenty years.  It used to be ten.

Nope.  We're 100% on our own after retirement.  But there's legislation
afoot that will contribute some percent of the coverage for x number of
years of service or some such.  If it passes.  I'm not holding my
breath.  We can, of course, stay in the state group plan.  It's just
that we pay the full premium.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:30:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06092
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:30:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FD8EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:44:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:44:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682ibZ20132 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:44:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 439BE7D2D; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 19:44:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708024436.439BE7D2D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:44:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28FAE7.3AB66662@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  9:37:27 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote:
> > Well, I'll wager that more American women have made cakes than have been
> > to Europe.
>
> Perhaps.  But not the ones I know.  I think of cake-baking as -- well --
> nevermind.

Lower-class? Tacky?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:30:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06116
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:30:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E827F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:39:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:45:00 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682j0Z20201 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:45:00 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-45.panax.com [63.163.42.45])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682ixj05617 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:44:59 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020708013450.845D27DB5@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707224322.00a170e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:44:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28F74B.FB157DA5@maynor.net>

>My grandmother told my mother, "Anybody who can read can cook."  My
>mother told me the same thing.   -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

My grandmother told my mother, "If you can read and you don't, that's the
same thing as not being able to read."   If you can cook and you don't,
that's the same thing as not being able to cook.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:30:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06132
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:30:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FD8F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:45:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:45:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682jEZ20241 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:45:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C7E8D7D7D; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 19:45:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708024513.C7E8D7D7D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:45:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020707194007.00a436e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 7, 2002  7:40:23 pm"

Betty said:
> At 06:09 PM 7/7/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Natalie Maynor said:
> > > Why do you think my AC is set on 90?
> >
> >Because you said one that you set the furnace on 60 and the AC on
> >90--both of which amazed me.
> >
> > > I sometimes don't have it on
> > > at all, of course.
> >
> >My cutoff is 90 outisde.
> >
> > > I have the speech slur problem in cold but never in
> > > heat.
> >
> >I don't think I've every had it in cold--I have had brain freeze, though.
>
> That's brain fart!

They are different. Brain freeze is when you can't get anything past
the lips.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:31:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06154
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:31:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8280F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:40:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:45:35 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682jZZ20273 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:45:35 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g682jYHT030770 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:45:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020708004853.B5B807E81@yellow.rahul.net>
            <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072014220.4165-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707194518.00a5ed80@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:45:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707214242.009fbd00@pop3.norton.antivirus>

At 09:45 PM 7/7/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>I have to say, Natalie, that I can't believe you have your AC set on
>>90. Around 85 my speech starts slurring and I start tripping.
>>Karen
>
>I have to agree, Karen.  When we got home from Monhegan Island on Wednesday
>it was 91 degrees in our upstairs bedroom.  The guests were assigned the
>two downstairs bedrooms.  I decided to simply not sleep.  However, by 4:30
>a.m. the bedroom had cooled to 75 and I was able to get some sleep up
>there.  Before that I napped on the living room couch, under the ceiling
>fan.  Clyde went to bed at an appropriate hour.  Nothing deters him from
>sleeping for he is pure of heart.  Or so he says.

Uh huh.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:31:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06186
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:31:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82812@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:40:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:46:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682k8Z20324 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:46:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g682k6Q07763
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:46:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708022907.A27DD7C78@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28FCE8.68DC7774@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:46:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I didn't meant that my grandmother made her children learn to bake
> cakes, but they learned basic cooking. Heck, my nephew was baking at
> the age of 4.

How old is he now?  And how much does he weigh?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:33:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06262
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:33:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FD90E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:47:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811550 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:47:31 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682lVZ20414 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:47:31 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g682lSQ08148
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:47:29 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F122mjOHaeKyf9kaN3g00009408@hotmail.com>
            <4.2.2.20020707192933.00a3fb20@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D28FD3B.23C763CA@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:47:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> Asking is rude.   Just leave it.

I disagree.  Dealing with garbage is a hassle.  I think tossing extra
garbage on friends isn't kind.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:34:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06326
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:34:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82826@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:43:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:48:41 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682mfZ20490 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:48:41 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g682meHT000770 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:48:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020708014841.BC6D37DF9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707214242.009fbd00@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707194820.00a5e450@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:48:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707221752.00a1d0a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

At 10:21 PM 7/7/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>> > Clyde went to bed at an appropriate hour.  Nothing deters him from
>> > sleeping for he is pure of heart.  Or so he says.
>>
>>There's gotta be another explanation.:)
>>Karen
>
>Clyde just read your email, shrugged, kissed me goodnight, and went up to
>bed where I am certain he will sleep for the next 10 hours -- the sleep of
>the just, the secure, the well-fed, and the pure of heart.  Visions of blue
>skies and crisply cool nights will dance through his brain as his stomach
>digests the lamb roast, garlic potato cake, broccollini, cheesecake, and
>wine he has consumed this evening.

Life is tough. Then you die.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:35:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06373
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:35:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82844@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:44:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:50:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682o2Z20625 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:50:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 054247D87; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 19:50:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708025000.054247D87@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:50:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28FCE8.68DC7774@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 7,
              2002  9:46: 0 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I didn't meant that my grandmother made her children learn to bake
> > cakes, but they learned basic cooking. Heck, my nephew was baking at
> > the age of 4.
>
> How old is he now?  And how much does he weigh?

He's 30-something. And skinny--I have no idea what he weighs.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:36:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06377
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:36:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82846@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:45:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:50:29 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682oTZ20638 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:50:29 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g682oSHT001815 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:50:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020708013450.845D27DB5@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707194917.00a576c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:50:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28F74B.FB157DA5@maynor.net>

At 09:22 PM 7/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > > Before the age of mixes, there was an age of cheaper household help, too.
> > > (I think.)
> >
> > True. My grandmother had help, but made her children learn.
>
>My grandmother told my mother, "Anybody who can read can cook."  My
>mother told me the same thing.  My grandmother didn't teach my mother
>anything about cooking, nor did my mother teach me anything about
>cooking.  Their attitudes, like mine, are that -- well, if you can read
>you can cook.  If you want to make a cake, look in a cookbook.
>
>I can't imagine my mother ever suggesting that I make a cake, though.
>Sure, we had birthday cakes from Jitney Jungle, but that was not the
>kind of food that my mother would've recommended for <everyday
>consumption>.   I don't really know whether my grandmother ever made a
>cake.  My guess is that she probably didn't.  Nor did my mother.  Why
>would somebody <make> her children learn?  What's the point?  Are cakes
>sacred or something?

I remember my mother making bread.  Ah, the smell of home made bread is
true comfort food. I don't remember cakes either.  But I don't remember a
lot of stuff.


Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:36:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06381
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:36:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82854@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:45:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:51:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682p8Z20709 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:51:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EB8847C39; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 19:51:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708025107.EB8847C39@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:51:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707221752.00a1d0a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 7, 2002 10:21:11 pm"

bonniev said:
> Clyde just read your email, shrugged, kissed me goodnight, and went up to
> bed where I am certain he will sleep for the next 10 hours -- the sleep of
> the just, the secure, the well-fed, and the pure of heart.  Visions of blue
> skies and crisply cool nights will dance through his brain as his stomach
> digests the lamb roast, garlic potato cake, broccollini, cheesecake, and
> wine he has consumed this evening.

I hate him. I think I'll phone you at 3 AM, when I wake up.

What is garlic potato cake?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:38:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06388
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:38:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82861@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:47:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:52:48 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682qmZ20835 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:52:48 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g682qkHT005364 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:52:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D28F74B.FB157DA5@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707195150.00a22470@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:52:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708022907.A27DD7C78@yellow.rahul.net>

At 07:29 PM 7/7/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Natalie Maynor said:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > > Before the age of mixes, there was an age of cheaper household
> help, too.
> > > > (I think.)
> > >
> > > True. My grandmother had help, but made her children learn.
> >
> > My grandmother told my mother, "Anybody who can read can cook."  My
> > mother told me the same thing.  My grandmother didn't teach my mother
> > anything about cooking, nor did my mother teach me anything about
> > cooking.  Their attitudes, like mine, are that -- well, if you can read
> > you can cook.  If you want to make a cake, look in a cookbook.
>
>Cooking is an art. Art is not learned in books.
>
> > Why
> > would somebody <make> her children learn?  What's the point?  Are cakes
> > sacred or something?
>
>I didn't meant that my grandmother made her children learn to bake
>cakes, but they learned basic cooking. Heck, my nephew was baking at
>the age of 4.

I remember Lorinda standing at her Raggedy Ann stove and telling her cousin
Wayne that she wanted to be the man and bake the bread.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:39:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06392
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:39:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82873@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:48:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:53:50 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682roZ20894 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:53:50 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g682rnHT006623 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:53:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020707192234.00a3ccd0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707195329.00a57a20@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:53:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708023030.9FDC97C77@yellow.rahul.net>

At 07:30 PM 7/7/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > At 07:12 PM 7/7/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > >>From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
> > >>> > Yes, I love to bake, and the key is to have somebody to feed
> > >>> > it all to so I don't eat it (except for a very little bit).
> > >>
> > >>Yes, that's one of the reasons I like working at the Inn on Tuesdays.  I
> > >>get to bake coffee cakes with a real counter-top stand mixer which I
> don't
> > >>even own.  And I get to bake cookies and sometimes breads.  I don't
> have to
> > >>eat any of it.
> > >
> > >I would love this. I made a blueberry pie last weekend and we were still
> > >nibbling it out of the pan in the fridge (for breakfast) this morning.
> Now I
> > >want another...
> > >
> > >This particular pie is very interesting. It's an open-faced pie. You
> prebake
> > >the crust, then cook 1/3 of the berries with sugar and stuff (cornstarch I
> > >think), then quickly fold in the rest of the berries, pour into the crust
> > >and let set.
> >
> > Larry made the best blackberry pie. He sent the remaining piece home with
> > his son! He has been practicing the criss cross pie top. What is that
> called?
>
>I used to know... I like those.

His last one was beautiful!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:39:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06419
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:39:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82876@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:48:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:54:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682sDZ20935 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:54:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D506B7C7E; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 19:54:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708025412.D506B7C7E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:54:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020707195150.00a22470@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 7, 2002  7:52:42 pm"

Betty said:
> I remember Lorinda standing at her Raggedy Ann stove and telling her cousin
> Wayne that she wanted to be the man and bake the bread.

LOL! Does her husband cook?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:40:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06424
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:40:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8288D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:49:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:54:30 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682sTZ20992 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:54:29 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g682sSHT006425 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:54:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020708023030.9FDC97C77@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707195356.00a59100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:54:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207072132060.516-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

At 09:32 PM 7/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > > Larry made the best blackberry pie. He sent the remaining piece home with
> > > his son! He has been practicing the criss cross pie top. What is that
> called?
> >
> > I used to know... I like those.
>
>lattice?

That's it!  Or is it lattuce?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:43:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06431
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:43:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E828CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:52:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12812105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:57:40 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682veZ21237 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:57:40 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g682vdHT010630 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:57:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <F122mjOHaeKyf9kaN3g00009408@hotmail.com>
            <4.2.2.20020707192933.00a3fb20@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707195709.00a40ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:57:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28FD3B.23C763CA@maynor.net>

At 09:47 PM 7/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > Asking is rude.   Just leave it.
>
>I disagree.  Dealing with garbage is a hassle.  I think tossing extra
>garbage on friends isn't kind.

They think that you want it so don't want to ask you to leave it.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:44:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06438
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:44:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82905@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:53:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12812262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:58:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682wUZ21372 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:58:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 796537CC9; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 19:58:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708025829.796537CC9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:58:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020707195356.00a59100@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 7, 2002  7:54:24 pm"

Betty said:
> >lattice?
>
> That's it!  Or is it lattuce?

No, it's from Latin something-or-other. AHD says "ETYMOLOGY:Middle
English latis, from Old French lattis, from latte, lath, of Germanic
origin ."

I was pretty sure this was related to slat, but AHD says only
indirectly: "ETYMOLOGY:Middle English sclat, from Old French esclat,
splinter, probably of Germanic origin."

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:44:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06442
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:44:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8291F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:53:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12812337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:58:55 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682wtZ21427 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:58:55 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-45.panax.com [63.163.42.45])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682wrj07801 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:58:53 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020708023030.9FDC97C77@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707225737.00a1a200@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:58:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207072132060.516-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

>lattice?      --Ann

Betty Crocker calls it "lattice top" in her disingenuous cookbook.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:44:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06447
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:44:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8293D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:53:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12812424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:59:13 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682xDZ21526 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:59:13 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW004EATMPDH@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 21:59:13 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020708011934.86D047C49@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D28F7AF.6000004@swbell.net> <3D28FBB9.E3E8A89E@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D28FFA9.8060101@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:57:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>        Didn't you have to learn how to make cakes in home economics
>>class?  You seem to be the generation that was expected to
>>be nice housewives.
>>
>
> Certainly I expected to be a housewife, but that didn't mean taking home
> ec. Talk about calling residence halls dorms or college females coeds.
> Home ec sounds like something my mother might have taken (although I've
> never heard her say that she did -- I should ask her about that
> sometime).


        Oh, maybe that sort of thing was for servants. I had to take
home ec in the 80s.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:44:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06452
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:44:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82940@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:53:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12812444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 22:59:24 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g682xNZ21538 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:59:23 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g682xMHT012528 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:59:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020707195150.00a22470@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707195819.00a602c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:59:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708025412.D506B7C7E@yellow.rahul.net>

At 07:54 PM 7/7/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > I remember Lorinda standing at her Raggedy Ann stove and telling her cousin
> > Wayne that she wanted to be the man and bake the bread.
>
>LOL! Does her husband cook?

They both do, but when she calls here about recipes she asks for her father.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:47:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06468
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:47:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82AEA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:56:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12813695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:01:54 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6831sZ22344 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:01:54 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW005SUTR6M4@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 22:01:54 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020708025000.054247D87@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D29004A.1050704@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:00:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Natalie Maynor said:
>
>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>
>>>I didn't meant that my grandmother made her children learn to bake
>>>cakes, but they learned basic cooking. Heck, my nephew was baking at
>>>the age of 4.
>>>
>>How old is he now?  And how much does he weigh?
>>
>
> He's 30-something. And skinny--I have no idea what he weighs.
>


        Ana loves to help me bake.  She does a fine job. Her class
made one of those kiddie cookbooks for Mother's Day in which
the kids guess about how to make something and it is
supposed to be hilarious.  Ana's wasn't funny because she
gave an accurate recipe (from memory).  She's six and weighs
48 pounds.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:48:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06472
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:48:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82BC1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:57:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12814292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:03:09 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68339Z22710 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:03:09 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW007BMTT82L@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 22:03:09 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020708023118.95FC17D17@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D290095.70702@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:01:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:


>>You seem to be the generation that was expected to
>>be nice housewives.
>>
>
> You must mean Natalie.


        Yes, but both of you, really.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:49:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06476
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:49:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82C00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 22:58:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12814471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:03:35 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6833ZZ22792 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:03:35 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW001UPTTZ27@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 22:03:35 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020708010727.B22797C14@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2900AF.8070501@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:02:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>Natalie Maynor wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Rita Chapman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>My point wasn't specifically to insult you, although that might be a
>>>>>side effect.  Some people really aren't cut out for teaching.  They
>>>>>don't have the patience to try to explain something to somebody who
>>>>>doesn't catch on right away.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>       An important teaching skill is intuiting when a student
>>>>really understands, but is pretending not to in order to
>>>>fill another agenda, such as postponing other work, getting
>>>>attention, being a pita, etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>?  Is this to suggest that I was pretending to not understand whatever
>>>it was?  I don't remember now what it was that I asked about.  I do
>>>remember that Karen gave one of her usual non-answers like uh-huh or
>>>never mind or whatever.  Iirc, Alyce then gave an answer.  It was
>>>something about dvd.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>        I have no opinion on the matter, but I think Karen does.
>>
>
> On what?
>


        Whether Natalie was playing dumb again.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:49:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06480
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:49:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FDAFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:03:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12814548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:03:42 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6833gZ22835 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:03:42 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6833fHT017195 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:03:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020707195356.00a59100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707200314.00a6a870@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:03:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708025829.796537CC9@yellow.rahul.net>

At 07:58 PM 7/7/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > >lattice?
> >
> > That's it!  Or is it lattuce?
>
>No, it's from Latin something-or-other. AHD says "ETYMOLOGY:Middle
>English latis, from Old French lattis, from latte, lath, of Germanic
>origin ."
>
>I was pretty sure this was related to slat, but AHD says only
>indirectly: "ETYMOLOGY:Middle English sclat, from Old French esclat,
>splinter, probably of Germanic origin."

That is more than I really wanted to know.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:50:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06484
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:50:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FDB43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:04:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12815055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:04:45 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6834iZ23098 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:04:45 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW007UFTVW1T@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 22:04:44 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020708010241.655797CA3@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2900F4.2070808@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:03:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>        Wuss.  I'm a GD Yankee and I painted the Spike Michelle
>>Portico and walkway this afternoon.  In a few minutes, I'm
>>going jogging.
>>
>
> That just means you're more used to the sucky humidity.


        How could I possibly be more used to the sucky humidity than
Bethany, who has grown up in the South?


> 8:02 and it's 87! Time to turn off the AC.
>

        I used to turn the A/C off at night when the RNH travelled.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:53:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06488
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:53:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FDBDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:07:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12815938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:07:32 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6837WZ23609 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:07:32 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYW007G2U0J1Z@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 07 Jul 2002 22:07:31 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207062216040.27024-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D2873EA.3060109@swbell.net> <20020707124524.C35016@pobox.com>
            <3D28A782.50605@swbell.net> <20020707160539.A82962@pobox.com>
Message-ID:  <3D29019B.1050106@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:06:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: NYTimes.com Article: The New Retirement Comes in Four
              Financial Flavors - extract
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 03:41:38PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>>Tushar Samant wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 12:01:30PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
>>>
>>>>What *is* it with Baby Boomers.
>>>>
>>>Kindly calm down "Rita". It is just a small percentage making the
>>>most noise.
>>>
>>>
>>>>                                Why can't they just accept
>>>>that they haven't invented every GD little thing?  The "new"
>>>>this, the "new" that.  Nothing new about it except an
>>>>enormous generation doing it all en masse and believing
>>>>they're the first.  As if nobody else in the history of the
>>>>world has ever wanted to travel after age 64.
>>>>
>>>Please stop being so resentful and focus on the main issue: people
>>>who inaugurate an exciting new phase of life really need to reverse
>>>this innovation ASAP. It's sucking. The other day I again saw some
>>>guy reading "How to kick ass over your competitors and get ahead
>>>in life". Was 70 if a day. That struck me as gross. Not because
>>>his life is over, but because he could have come up with something
>>>a little better in 70 years...
>>>
>>        Yeah, you just wait a few years.  Soon they'll be calling it
>>"the new dead."
>>
>
> Rita. He might have been *critiquing* it. I swan.
>
> We have gone over this tiresome habit of non-stop never-listen
> head-in-sand self-analysis before ... I have spent 10 years in
> America and never heard one let-up. It must be the liberal media.
>
> When we discussed this last, the canonical example of this was
> generally accepted to be a little book called "Bobos in Paradise"
> (a brilliant, breezy and often hilarious study of the first ever
> meritocracy in the history of humanity). This erudite skewering
> of the creatures of the end of a centuries-long culture war (which
> occurred on December 31st, 1989), has garnered an unprecedented
> readership and a very uniform reaction: amused chuckles and fake
> self-deprecation. I recommend it highly--perhaps you will discover
> yourself in it and enjoy a few quiet chuckles.



I have never mentioned that at my local public library, in
order to get to the new books section, I have to walk right
by a stack on which that Bobo book is shelved.  For some
reason, among the dozens of books there, that one book pops
out at me.  It screams "Tushar is taunting you!"


> And easy on the French roast please...


Too much iced coffee today.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:53:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06495
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:53:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82E60@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:02:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12816123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:08:19 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6838IZ23741 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:08:19 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-45.panax.com [63.163.42.45])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6838Hj08744 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:08:17 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707221752.00a1d0a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707230528.00a22e10@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:07:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708025107.EB8847C39@yellow.rahul.net>

>I hate him. I think I'll phone you at 3 AM, when I wake up.

I know the feeling.  It's amazing I didn't plunge a butcher knife into his
gently rising and falling breast as he slept peacefully through my three
years of menopausal insomniac hell.  I'll unplug the phone next to the
bed.  He would never hear the phone downstairs.  I might, though.

>What is garlic potato cake?
>Karen

He'll have to tell you tomorrow.  It's something he recently started making
after being served it in a restaurant.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:54:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06499
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:54:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82E8E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:03:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12816246 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:08:34 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe29.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.86]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6838YZ23803 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:08:34 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          7 Jul 2002 20:08:28 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
References: <20020708013731.4D5977DFB@yellow.rahul.net> 
            <3D28F80C.AC439BE8@maynor.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2002 03:08:28.0667 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[BB8B24B0:01C2262C]
Message-ID:  <OE29gTIFprhMOgRGkQ600006d14@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:07:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: For Natalie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> ??  Why are you posting this for me?  You answered my question about it
> many months ago.  It's not a government thing.  It's an insurance
> program.  I didn't know that a year ago, but I do know it now.

How come the checks are signed by the Texas Comptroller if it's not a
government program?

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 16:59:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06504
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 16:59:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82EEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:08:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12816551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:13:42 -0400
Received: from mail7.wlv.netzero.net (mail7.wlv.netzero.net [209.247.163.57])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g683DgZ24260 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:13:42 -0400
Received: (qmail 8845 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2002 03:13:32 -0000
Received: from 1cust181.tnt3.lexington.ky.da.uu.net (HELO computer)
          (65.238.105.181) by mail7.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 8 Jul 2002
          03:13:32 -0000
References: <000301c224a9$eee73d00$9a26ee41@computer>           
            <3D26DA92.CF85B963@maynor.net>           
            <000601c225f5$9e2909a0$3226ee41@computer> 
            <4.2.2.20020707192602.00a50100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000b01c2262f$cbb12da0$b569ee41@computer>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:30:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bogris01 <bogris01@NETZERO.NET>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I have another google question.  :)  One of my sister Kay's
shopping quests, commissioned by Mother and roundly opposed by
me, was to replace our copper tea kettle (perfectly good in my
opinion and aesthetically pleasing).  She came back with a device
that looks strange, but pretty, and does a good job boiling water
for my classic peach Jello.  Reading the fine print, I see that
it is a Michael Graves Ferris tea kettle (licensed to Target).
My question is: is this the world-class architect who designed
the Humana building in Louisville?  I vaguely remember something
about him getting into housewares.

Bradley Dale



-------------------------------------------
Introducing NetZero Long Distance
Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month!
Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 17:03:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06526
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 17:03:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82F06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:12:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12816650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:18:06 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g683I5Z24585 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:18:05 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g683I4HT031329 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:18:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <000301c224a9$eee73d00$9a26ee41@computer>
            <3D26DA92.CF85B963@maynor.net>
            <000601c225f5$9e2909a0$3226ee41@computer>
            <4.2.2.20020707192602.00a50100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707201747.00a2b910@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:18:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000b01c2262f$cbb12da0$b569ee41@computer>

At 11:30 PM 7/7/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>I have another google question.  :)  One of my sister Kay's
>shopping quests, commissioned by Mother and roundly opposed by
>me, was to replace our copper tea kettle (perfectly good in my
>opinion and aesthetically pleasing).  She came back with a device
>that looks strange, but pretty, and does a good job boiling water
>for my classic peach Jello.  Reading the fine print, I see that
>it is a Michael Graves Ferris tea kettle (licensed to Target).
>My question is: is this the world-class architect who designed
>the Humana building in Louisville?  I vaguely remember something
>about him getting into housewares.

No.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 17:06:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06533
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 17:06:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FDCAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:21:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12816709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:21:03 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g683L3Z24748 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:21:03 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g683L2HT001001 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:21:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <000301c224a9$eee73d00$9a26ee41@computer>
            <3D26DA92.CF85B963@maynor.net>
            <000601c225f5$9e2909a0$3226ee41@computer>
            <4.2.2.20020707192602.00a50100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707202034.00a458f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:20:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question from Brad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000b01c2262f$cbb12da0$b569ee41@computer>

At 11:30 PM 7/7/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>I have another google question.  :)  One of my sister Kay's
>shopping quests, commissioned by Mother and roundly opposed by
>me, was to replace our copper tea kettle (perfectly good in my
>opinion and aesthetically pleasing).  She came back with a device
>that looks strange, but pretty, and does a good job boiling water
>for my classic peach Jello.  Reading the fine print, I see that
>it is a Michael Graves Ferris tea kettle (licensed to Target).
>My question is: is this the world-class architect who designed
>the Humana building in Louisville?  I vaguely remember something
>about him getting into housewares.
>
>Bradley Dale

It was designed by Michael Graves.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 17:22:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06563
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 17:22:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82FB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:31:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12817222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:36:58 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g683awZ26023 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:36:58 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g683av213517 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:36:57
          -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020708004509.4D5137E2D@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <002801c22630$ee6b72a0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:38:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: I am soooo lucky...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >
> > Well, you know that my daughter lives in Columbus,
> > and that's probably even closer.
>
> Columbus?
>
> Karen

Columbus, Texas.  On I-10.  West of Houston.
SE of Austin.  I think.

                            - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 17:27:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06577
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 17:27:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82FD0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:36:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12817327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:41:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g683faZ26296 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:41:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4C9B57E04; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 20:41:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708034135.4C9B57E04@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:41:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707225737.00a1a200@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 7, 2002 10:58:34 pm"

bonniev said:
> >lattice?      --Ann
>
> Betty Crocker calls it "lattice top" in her disingenuous cookbook.

Very few pies have lattice bottoms.

Ba-dum dump!

Karen
who just heard from JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 17:31:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06593
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 17:31:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E82FF9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:40:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12817466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:45:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g683juZ26586 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:45:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 251A27D29; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 20:45:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708034553.251A27D29@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:45:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D290095.70702@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 7,
              2002 10: 1:41 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >>You seem to be the generation that was expected to
> >>be nice housewives.
> >>
> >
> > You must mean Natalie.
>
>
>         Yes, but both of you, really.

My school didn't offer Home Ec--I took it my junior year after we
moved, but I don't remember any cooking. Oh, we made candy.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 17:31:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06597
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 17:31:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FDD82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:46:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12817470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:45:58 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g683jwZ26591 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:45:58 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g683jv220674 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:45:57
          -0500 (CDT)
References:  <3D286B0A.6617.204DDD7@localhost>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <009701c22632$304454c0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:47:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> On 7 Jul 2002 at 21:12, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> > I don't consider cake-making as one of life's <typical> acts.
>
> Well, I'll wager that more American women have made cakes than have
been
> to Europe.
>
>
>     mem

I have made cakes.  These are a few of the kinds I used
to make from scratch on quite a regular basis:
angel food, chocolate, cherry-nut, sponge, chiffon,
burnt sugar, white.  I frosted.  I iced.

I have also been to Europe.

             - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 17:31:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06601
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 17:31:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E83000@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:40:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12817490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:46:19 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g683kJZ26626 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:46:19 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BFB837D29; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 20:46:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708034618.BFB837D29@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:46:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I --=**HATE**=-- UPS
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2900AF.8070501@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 7,
              2002 10: 2: 7 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Rita Chapman said:
> >
> >>Natalie Maynor wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Rita Chapman wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>My point wasn't specifically to insult you, although that might be a
> >>>>>side effect.  Some people really aren't cut out for teaching.  They
> >>>>>don't have the patience to try to explain something to somebody who
> >>>>>doesn't catch on right away.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>       An important teaching skill is intuiting when a student
> >>>>really understands, but is pretending not to in order to
> >>>>fill another agenda, such as postponing other work, getting
> >>>>attention, being a pita, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>?  Is this to suggest that I was pretending to not understand whatever
> >>>it was?  I don't remember now what it was that I asked about.  I do
> >>>remember that Karen gave one of her usual non-answers like uh-huh or
> >>>never mind or whatever.  Iirc, Alyce then gave an answer.  It was
> >>>something about dvd.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>        I have no opinion on the matter, but I think Karen does.
> >>
> >
> > On what?
> >
>
>
>         Whether Natalie was playing dumb again.

No comment.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 17:33:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06605
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 17:33:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E83013@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:42:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12817549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:47:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g683lYZ26705 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:47:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5BDFD7CC7; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 20:47:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708034733.5BDFD7CC7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:47:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020707200314.00a6a870@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 7, 2002  8: 3:37 pm"

Betty said:
> At 07:58 PM 7/7/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Betty said:
> > > >lattice?
> > >
> > > That's it!  Or is it lattuce?
> >
> >No, it's from Latin something-or-other. AHD says "ETYMOLOGY:Middle
> >English latis, from Old French lattis, from latte, lath, of Germanic
> >origin ."
> >
> >I was pretty sure this was related to slat, but AHD says only
> >indirectly: "ETYMOLOGY:Middle English sclat, from Old French esclat,
> >splinter, probably of Germanic origin."
>
> That is more than I really wanted to know.

Well, *I* want to know if there is some Proto-Germanic morpheme -lat-
meaning wood.

But I'm sorry. I can't help it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 17:34:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06610
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 17:34:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E83026@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:43:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12817624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:49:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g683n0Z26844 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:49:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2B27F7D29; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 20:49:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708034900.2B27F7D29@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:49:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2900F4.2070808@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 7,
              2002 10: 3:16 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Rita Chapman said:
> >
> >>        Wuss.  I'm a GD Yankee and I painted the Spike Michelle
> >>Portico and walkway this afternoon.  In a few minutes, I'm
> >>going jogging.
> >>
> >
> > That just means you're more used to the sucky humidity.
>
>
>         How could I possibly be more used to the sucky humidity than
> Bethany, who has grown up in the South?

New Haven and Columbus were both more humid than Austin, more of the time.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 17:35:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06614
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 17:35:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FDDAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:49:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12817672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:49:42 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g683ngZ26911 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:49:42 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g683nfHT029931 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:49:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707225737.00a1a200@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707204904.00a6a8b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:49:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708034135.4C9B57E04@yellow.rahul.net>

At 08:41 PM 7/7/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>bonniev said:
> > >lattice?      --Ann
> >
> > Betty Crocker calls it "lattice top" in her disingenuous cookbook.
>
>Very few pies have lattice bottoms.
>
>Ba-dum dump!
>
>Karen
>who just heard from JMW

Who is left?  Did you hear from Nancy or Susan?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 17:36:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06618
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 17:36:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8303D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:45:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12817708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:50:47 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g683olZ26981 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:50:47 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g683ojHT031295 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:50:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D286B0A.6617.204DDD7@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020707205006.00a28890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:50:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <009701c22632$304454c0$360332d1@0018079268>

At 10:47 PM 7/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > On 7 Jul 2002 at 21:12, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> >
> > > I don't consider cake-making as one of life's <typical> acts.
> >
> > Well, I'll wager that more American women have made cakes than have
>been
> > to Europe.
> >
> >
> >     mem
>
>I have made cakes.  These are a few of the kinds I used
>to make from scratch on quite a regular basis:
>angel food, chocolate, cherry-nut, sponge, chiffon,
>burnt sugar, white.  I frosted.  I iced.
>
>I have also been to Europe.

You are a well rounded woman!  You've done it all. Do you do Pilates?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 17:36:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06622
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 17:36:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8303E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:45:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12817712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:50:52 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g683oqZ26987 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:50:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A107F7CC7; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 20:50:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708035051.A107F7CC7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:50:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707230528.00a22e10@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 7, 2002 11: 7:59 pm"

bonniev said:
> >I hate him. I think I'll phone you at 3 AM, when I wake up.
>
> I know the feeling.  It's amazing I didn't plunge a butcher knife into his
> gently rising and falling breast as he slept peacefully through my three
> years of menopausal insomniac hell.  I'll unplug the phone next to the
> bed.  He would never hear the phone downstairs.  I might, though.

I won't, of course. But next time you're away, I will! (Except I'll
forget, sigh.)

My menopausal insomnia was easier than this.

> >What is garlic potato cake?
> >Karen
>
> He'll have to tell you tomorrow.  It's something he recently started making
> after being served it in a restaurant.

Sounds good.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 17:43:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06626
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 17:43:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8309A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Jul 2002 23:52:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12817998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Jul
          2002 23:57:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g683vqZ27445 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:57:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4148F7C8E; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 20:57:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708035752.4148F7C8E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:57:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I am soooo lucky...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <002801c22630$ee6b72a0$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 7, 2002 10:38:29 pm"

Doris Markland said:
> > >
> > > Well, you know that my daughter lives in Columbus,
> > > and that's probably even closer.
> >
> > Columbus?
> >
> > Karen
>
> Columbus, Texas.  On I-10.  West of Houston.
> SE of Austin.  I think.

Yep. Mapquest says it's about 2.5 hours. But there's good barbecue on
the way.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 17:56:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06650
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 17:56:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E83361@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 0:05:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12820179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 00:11:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g684BJZ29624 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 00:11:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B306D7CB1; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 21:10:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708041030.B306D7CB1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:10:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020707204904.00a6a8b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 7, 2002  8:49:36 pm"

Betty said:
> At 08:41 PM 7/7/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >bonniev said:
> > > >lattice?      --Ann
> > >
> > > Betty Crocker calls it "lattice top" in her disingenuous cookbook.
> >
> >Very few pies have lattice bottoms.
> >
> >Ba-dum dump!
> >
> >Karen
> >who just heard from JMW
>
> Who is left?

I think Natalie is boycotting me. Mem and steph for sure. Both
Peters.:) Rita. Burton. Borkin. Tushar. Amy.

> Did you hear from Nancy or Susan?

Nope.

I was trying to explain to My Newest Friend today that I feel like
I've been to a great party. It's been so wonderful to have the time to
talk with everyone!

And my plumbing is still intact, and I'm not cursed by host-fever.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 17:56:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06657
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 17:56:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E83362@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 0:05:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12820183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 00:11:21 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g684BLZ29628 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002
          00:11:21 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JLE01031; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 00:11:15 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JVH02790; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 00:11:14 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <009701c22632$304454c0$360332d1@0018079268>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D288468.6527.267F45A@localhost>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:11:52 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020707205006.00a28890@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On 7 Jul 2002 at 20:50, Betty wrote:

> You are a well rounded woman!  You've done it all. Do you do
> Pilates?

I know this much: She carefully samples the coffee before deciding whether
she wants cream in it.


  k  mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 17:59:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06661
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 17:59:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E83379@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 0:08:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12820255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 00:13:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g684DaZ29787 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 00:13:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B48237CB1; Sun,  7
          Jul 2002 21:13:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708041335.B48237CB1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 7 Jul 2002 21:13:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D288468.6527.267F45A@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 7, 2002  6:11:52 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> I know this much: She carefully samples the coffee before deciding whether
> she wants cream in it.

She's smart!

Karen
who would kill for some Lion dark roast

Oh! This reminds me! One of the Pilates trainees who is my trainer is
going to Hawaii--I'm not sure where. But I'm lending her the lovely
book you gave me.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 18:44:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA06716
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 18:44:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E834A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 0:53:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12821317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 00:59:16 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g684xGZ00681 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 00:59:16 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g684xF206750 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:59:15
          -0500 (CDT)
References: <3D286B0A.6617.204DDD7@localhost> 
            <4.2.2.20020707205006.00a28890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000401c2263c$6d50cba0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 00:00:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >angel food, chocolate, cherry-nut, sponge, chiffon,
> >burnt sugar, white.  I frosted.  I iced.
> >
> >I have also been to Europe.
>
> You are a well rounded woman!  You've done it all. Do you do Pilates?
>
> Betty

No. I'm well rounded
because I do plates.

        - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 20:24:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06850
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 20:24:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FE3E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 2:38:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12824897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 02:38:47 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g686ckZ08432 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 02:38:46 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g686goo15152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:42:50
          +0200
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707214242.009fbd00@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020708014841.BC6D37DF9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707221752.00a1d0a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020708084250.A15118@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:42:50 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707221752.00a1d0a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>; from
              bonniev@PANAX.COM on Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 10:21:11PM -0400

= skies and crisply cool nights will dance through his brain as his stomach
= digests the lamb roast, garlic potato cake, broccollini, cheesecake, and
= wine he has consumed this evening.
=
=
=     --bonniev

I want the garlic potato cake recipe!

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 20:28:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06857
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 20:28:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E838B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 2:37:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12824997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 02:42:44 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g686ghZ08672 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 02:42:43 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g686kmU15162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:46:48
          +0200
References: <3D286CB9.30844.20B7237@localhost>
            <20020708023708.F2E9A7CB5@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020708084647.B15118@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:46:47 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708023708.F2E9A7CB5@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 07:37:08PM -0700

=
= Hey, Rashmi phone me today. You and JMW are two of the only holdouts!
=
= Karen

And what am I?

chopped liver

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  1 20:39:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06871
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 1 Jun 1960 20:39:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E838E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 2:48:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12825131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 02:53:52 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g686rpZ09160 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 02:53:51 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g686vtX15178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:57:55
          +0200
References: <4.2.2.20020707204904.00a6a8b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020708041030.B306D7CB1@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020708085755.C15118@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:57:55 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708041030.B306D7CB1@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 09:10:30PM -0700

= > Who is left?
=
= I think Natalie is boycotting me. Mem and steph for sure. Both
= Peters.:) Rita. Burton. Borkin. Tushar. Amy.
=

I've been telephoneless over the weekend.  It's amazing how
filthy an empty apartment can get.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 00:23:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA07106
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 00:23:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84184@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 6:32:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12832914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 06:37:53 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68AbqZ26459 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 06:37:52 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-74.panax.com
          [65.114.190.74]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g68Abpj27628 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 06:37:51
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D290095.70702@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708063531.009ffb80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 06:37:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708034553.251A27D29@yellow.rahul.net>

>My school didn't offer Home Ec--I took it my junior year after we
>moved, but I don't remember any cooking. Oh, we made candy.
>Karen

My Catholic grade school didn't offer Home Ec.  But on Friday afternoons
the eighth grade class would walk many blocks to the public school where
the boys took shop and the girls took home ec.  I remember the sewing
better than the cooking.  We made aprons.  I'm sure none of that would fly,
including the unchaperoned walk, in this day and age.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 01:03:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07151
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 01:03:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84388@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 7:11:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12800081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 07:17:20 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68BHJZ12100 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:17:19 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g68BLO415624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:21:24
          +0200
References: <3D290095.70702@swbell.net>
            <20020708034553.251A27D29@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708063531.009ffb80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020708132123.A15593@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:21:23 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708063531.009ffb80@pop3.norton.antivirus>; from
              bonniev@PANAX.COM on Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 06:37:37AM -0400

=
= My Catholic grade school didn't offer Home Ec.  But on Friday afternoons
= the eighth grade class would walk many blocks to the public school where
= the boys took shop and the girls took home ec.  I remember the sewing
= better than the cooking.  We made aprons.  I'm sure none of that would fly,
= including the unchaperoned walk, in this day and age.
=
=
=     --bonniev

By the time I was in 7th grade (so, 1975/6) girls could choose
whether to take home ec or shop.  Things got a little screwed up,
as they ended up with about 35 kids in home ec and 7 in shop.  I
was the only girl in my shop class, and it took us all a couple
of weeks to convince my shop teacher that I was a girl.  He kept
using the wrong pronouns.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 01:42:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07184
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 01:42:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E844E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 7:51:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12800982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 07:56:46 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68BkkZ15085 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:46:46 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g68BkjOI013000 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:46:45 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207080746260.7142-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:46:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708014656.1DC3F7DAA@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>Natalie was implying that UI pays for Pilates. Actually, it doesn't
>even pay my mortgage, so there's nothing left over for Pilates. In any
>case, Natalie has no real understanding of unemployment insurance--she
>thought it was the same as welfare until the last time we talked about
>this.

Right.

Thanks,
Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 01:44:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07191
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 01:44:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E844F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 7:53:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 07:59:05 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Bn5Z15220 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:49:05 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g68Bn5OI013489 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:49:05 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207080748180.7142-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:49:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28F5C1.8380DEDE@maynor.net>

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>Our birthday cakes came from the Jitney Jungle.  How horrible it
>would've been to have been faced with a home-made cake instead.  And how
>embarrassing if it had been for a birthday party.  Childhood is not a
>time when one wants to seem <weird> to one's peers.  Besides, the bday
>cakes from Jitney Jungle tasted right.  A substitute would've tasted
>wrong.

To me that is WAY weird -

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 01:47:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07203
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 01:47:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84518@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 7:56:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:01:53 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68C1rZ16168 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:01:53 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws52-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.52]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68C1oQ18755
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:01:50 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207071900420.3709-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020707193033.00a3fd20@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D297EF9.A80B8488@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:00:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: NYTimes.com Article: The New Retirement Comes
              inFourFinancialFlavors - extract
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> >I was thinking that was yesterday.  But I dunno.  Today has been busy.
>
> What did you do? Aren't you retired now?

Yes, I got my first retirement check last week.  What I spent most of
yesterday on was a continuation of the project of getting my house
reasonably organized after bringing tons of stuff home from my office.
I finally gave up yesterday on going through boxes of files etc. since I
don't really have a good place to put them.  I need to get rid of some
stuff in my storage building and get another filing cabinet, one to go
out in that building.  The junk room does look much, much better now
than it did day before yesterday, but it's still got a way to go.  Boxes
of office stuff are still sitting on its floor -- but sitting in a more
comely position than they were, and I can now open the closet door that
the boxes were blocking.

Dealing with all this office stuff has naturally inspired some furniture
rearranging not directly related to the office stuff.  Nothing really
major, but it took some time yesterday and day before -- pleasant time.

Now I'm trying to decide whether to go on and call Sylvester about
refinishing a few things or just leave them as they are for a while
longer.  One is the wonderful cedar chest that my mother got as a young
child and that at some point in her middle age decided to paint.  She
has said in recent years that that was a mistake.  And indeed it was.
The chest, which I now have, is still sturdy and wonderful and full of
cedar smells inside, but it would look much, much better in its original
form.  I'm going to ask Sylvester, who does excellent work, if it can be
returned to cedar on its outside.  I have a feeling it can.  I also have
a couple of small tables and an ancient rocking chair that could use
refinishing.  But I'm not in the mood at the moment.  I think I'll
wait.  I might even get him to do the piano at the same time, although
that will be mightily expensive.  The piano tuners/repairers who came to
my house back whenever it was said that it really wasn't necessary to
have it sent to a piano-refinishing expert -- that Sylvester did fine
with pianos but that I should make sure he picked it up at a time he
could get to it right away -- that it shouldn't sit out there in his
workshop for a long period of time.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 01:50:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07210
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 01:50:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84536@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 7:59:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:04:46 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68C4kZ16500 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:04:46 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws52-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.52]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68C4hQ19107
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:04:43 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207072134260.562-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D297FD5.61F3F9DD@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:04:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> > No, my question is why Karen found my response "disingenuous."  What's
> > disingenuous about it?  That's all I'm curious about.
>
> I see, sort of a double disingenuosity.  Wanna make it triple?

Yes.  Why did Karen find my response disingenuous?  The problem now,
however, is that I don't remember exactly what we were talking about --
what my response was.  I do remember not understanding why Karen found
it disingenuous.

Wait -- I do remember.  It was about cake-baking.  Karen expressed great
surprise that my mother had lived 88 years without baking a cake.  I
asked her why -- something like whether cake-baking was sacred.  I see
nothing whatsoever disingenuous about that response and would like to
know why Karen found it so.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 01:51:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07217
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 01:51:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84547@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:00:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:06:06 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68C66Z16726 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:06:06 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws52-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.52]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68C64Q19310
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:06:04 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708023617.D458A7C78@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D298025.59D2A512@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:05:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Where have you been?! I had contracts after I was laid off; I got paid
> for those.

Ok, so I'm back to not understanding unemployment insurance.  I thought
it was for people without work.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 01:52:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07221
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 01:52:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84549@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:01:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:06:28 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68C6RZ16792 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:06:27 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws52-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.52]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68C6PQ19352
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:06:26 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708024436.439BE7D2D@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D29803C.B814C3DF@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:06:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > Perhaps.  But not the ones I know.  I think of cake-baking as -- well --
> > nevermind.
>
> Lower-class? Tacky?

No.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 01:56:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07225
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 01:56:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FEE5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:10:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:10:53 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68C0rZ16092 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:00:53 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g68C0qOI015707 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:00:52 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207080759280.7142-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:00:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708132123.A15593@yoccoz.multinix.com>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, steph wrote:

>By the time I was in 7th grade (so, 1975/6) girls could choose
>whether to take home ec or shop.  Things got a little screwed up,

Hmmm. Was it only in Texas that we took both? I took home ec (where I
learned nothing - I had bee cooking for years), and I took shop (I made
several pieces of furniture).

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 01:57:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07232
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 01:57:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8462E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:06:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:11:49 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68CBnZ17424 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:11:49 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws52-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.52]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68CBlQ19976
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:11:47 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F122mjOHaeKyf9kaN3g00009408@hotmail.com>
            <4.2.2.20020707192933.00a3fb20@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020707195709.00a40ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D29817D.C26750DF@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:11:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> >I disagree.  Dealing with garbage is a hassle.  I think tossing extra
> >garbage on friends isn't kind.
>
> They think that you want it so don't want to ask you to leave it.

My experience has been that if it's something at all desirable, they say
yes to taking it.  If it's something that hasn't been particularly
popular, they say no.  If it contains broccoli or asparagus, they say no
since the host hates those things.  (I can think of only one place that
I've been to pot-luck parties in many years -- Chigger Fest.  But I'm
going to be going to one somewhere else later this month.  One of our
plans for entertaining the Japanese visitors is a pot-luck dinner at the
house where they're staying.)  I've been to some bring party-food
things, though, like the annual Democratic Party xmas party.  I take
whatever I take on a paper plate and never think about bringing any of
it home since I'm never among the last to leave.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:00:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07253
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:00:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8466D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:09:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12801968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:14:39 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68CEdZ17705 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:14:39 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws52-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.52]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68CEbQ20451
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:14:37 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708011934.86D047C49@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D28F7AF.6000004@swbell.net> <3D28FBB9.E3E8A89E@maynor.net>
            <3D28FFA9.8060101@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D298227.2BD4B9F4@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:14:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> > Certainly I expected to be a housewife, but that didn't mean taking home
> > ec. Talk about calling residence halls dorms or college females coeds.
> > Home ec sounds like something my mother might have taken (although I've
> > never heard her say that she did -- I should ask her about that
> > sometime).
>
>         Oh, maybe that sort of thing was for servants. I had to take
> home ec in the 80s.

What sort of thing?  Taking home ec?  I don't have any idea who took
home ec.  I would put it in the category of courses with content that is
hobby-like.  E.g., there used to be a course in the College of Ed here,
maybe still is, that was about how to do things like send e-mail.  I
always found that amusing since that kind of thing strikes me as what
you do <extracurricularly>, not <curricularly>.


--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:00:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07257
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:00:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8467D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:09:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12802014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:15:02 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68CF2Z17815 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:15:02 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-57.panax.com
          [65.114.190.57]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g68CF0j08512 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:15:00
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707221752.00a1d0a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020708014841.BC6D37DF9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707214242.009fbd00@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708073959.00b55e58@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:41:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020707194820.00a5e450@uclink.berkeley.edu>

At 07:48 PM 7/7/2002 -0700,  .betty wrote:
 >Clyde just read your email, shrugged, kissed me goodnight, and went up to
>>bed where I am certain he will sleep for the next 10 hours -- the sleep of
>>the just, the secure, the well-fed, and the pure of heart.  Visions of blue
>>skies and crisply cool nights will dance through his brain as his stomach
>>digests the lamb roast, garlic potato cake, broccollini, cheesecake, and
>>wine he has consumed this evening.
>
>Life is tough. Then you die.

Yes, there are times I get tired of all this, but you can't quit just
because you get tired.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:00:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07261
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:00:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8467E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:09:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12802018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:15:04 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68CF3Z17820 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:15:03 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-57.panax.com
          [65.114.190.57]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g68CF2j08522 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:15:02
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707221752.00a1d0a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707214242.009fbd00@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020708014841.BC6D37DF9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707221752.00a1d0a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708074130.00b57938@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:05:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708084250.A15118@yoccoz.multinix.com>

Peel and cut into quarters (or smaller chunks) russet or Yukon gold
potatoes.  Boil or steam them until they are done (a wooden skewer goes in
easily).  Drain, mash thoroughly with butter and milk or as you usually
would do.  Add a clove of very finely chopped garlic, some fresh gound
pepper, a bit of salt, and some finely chopped fresh herbs (I like either
thyme or sage).  Heat a nonstick frying pan over medium heat; add a few
drops of oil.  While the pan is heating, form the potatoes into cakes 3-4
inches (8-10 cm) in diameter and about an inch (ca. 3 cm) thick.  Place
them gently in the pan and allow to cook until you can see the bottom edges
becoming brown.  Carefully turn them over and brown the other side.  Serve
immediately.

=====================
Notes:

1.  I like to use a starchy potato; a waxy potato (e.g., red) might not
hold together as well.  I also like fairly small chunks so that they cook
evenly and rapidly.

2.  For the two of us, I use a very small clove of garlic or slice four or
five thin slices of a large clove and chop (mince) them.  You don't have to
worry much---the potato mixture mellows the garlic rapidly.

3.  Obviously, you want fairly "stiff" mashed potatoes in order to form
cakes that will retain their shape; go easy on the milk.
=================

Maureen at Mache Bistro also makes a grilled risotto cake that is very
good.  I'm not sure what all of the ingredients are and I suspect that one
would need some sort of mold to form those cakes.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:00:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07265
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:00:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8467F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:09:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12802024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:15:05 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68CF5Z17829 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:15:05 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-57.panax.com
          [65.114.190.57]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g68CF4j08535 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:15:04
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D28F74B.FB157DA5@maynor.net>
            <20020708013450.845D27DB5@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708081104.00b59ba0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:14:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020707224322.00a170e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

At 10:44 PM 7/7/2002 -0400, bonnie wrote:
>>My grandmother told my mother, "Anybody who can read can cook."  My
>>mother told me the same thing.   -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
>My grandmother told my mother, "If you can read and you don't, that's the
>same thing as not being able to read."   If you can cook and you don't,
>that's the same thing as not being able to cook.

On the other hand, I know some people who can read rather well (and read
recipes rather well) who as cooks range from mediocre to wretched.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:04:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07269
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:04:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E846D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:13:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12802238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:19:11 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68CJBZ18268 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:19:11 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws52-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.52]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68CJ8Q20901
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:19:09 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708023118.95FC17D17@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D290095.70702@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D298335.6B4F3F2@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:19:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> >>You seem to be the generation that was expected to
> >>be nice housewives.
> >>
> >
> > You must mean Natalie.
>
>         Yes, but both of you, really.

I was certainly of that generation.  But nobody expected us to take home
ec courses.  It's true, I think, that the career expectations of those
days influenced what many of us chose to major in.  There were
exceptions, of course, but in general girls of my generation majored in
housewifely fields like English, almost always getting teaching
certificates.  The <normal> routine was to get married right after
college and teach while your spouse finished med school or law school or
whatever.  Then after your children were grown, you might choose to go
back to teaching.  So even then things had changed from my mother's
generation, when most women didn't seem to have working plans at all.
My mother majored in English but without a teaching certificate.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:08:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07281
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:08:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84706@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:17:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12802363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:22:50 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68CMoZ18629 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:22:50 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g68CQuX15764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:26:56
          +0200
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707221752.00a1d0a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707214242.009fbd00@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020708014841.BC6D37DF9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707221752.00a1d0a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020708084250.A15118@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708074130.00b57938@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020708142655.A15733@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:26:55 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708074130.00b57938@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 08:05:15AM -0400

= easily).  Drain, mash thoroughly with butter and milk or as you usually
= would do.  Add a clove of very finely chopped garlic, some fresh gound

Uh oh.  Now I have to admit that I don't really have a sense of
how to make mashed potatoes.  I can't even remember when the last
time I had them was.

Hmmm.  Time to experiment.  Is there something besides milk that
will work?  We never have milk in the house.  Butter no problem.
But I'm not gonna buy a pint of milk just for mashed potatoes.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:16:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07322
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:16:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E847C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:25:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12802885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:30:31 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68CUVZ19753 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:30:31 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws66-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.66]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68CUTQ22406
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:30:29 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D290095.70702@swbell.net>
            <20020708034553.251A27D29@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708063531.009ffb80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020708132123.A15593@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D298574.E09E1456@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:28:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> By the time I was in 7th grade (so, 1975/6) girls could choose
> whether to take home ec or shop.  Things got a little screwed up,

I lied!! I *DID* take home ec!  I just remembered.  In junior high we
had our first "electives."  We didn't get to elect them in 7th grade,
though.  All 7th graders took all four of the electives, each for 1/4 of
the year.  Then in 8th and 9th grades we chose which to take.   The idea
was good in that sampling all four of the possibilities might enable you
to make a better decision for the future years, although I knew all
along that I'd be taking choral music in 8th and 9th grades.  Anyway, in
the 7th grade I took 1/4 year of home ec, 1/4 year of choral music, 1/4
year of art, and 1/4 year of shop.  I don't remember any cooking or
sewing at all in the home ec.  I remember sitting in a classroom and
learning about things like which foods contain which vitamins.  My
memory of that class is very, very vague.  I remember the other three
better.  I'm pretty sure that it was in 7th grade that I sat by Anna
Ware in choral music and discovered that she had perfect pitch, for
which I envied her.  And I remember exchanging love notes with my
boyfriend in art.  And I remember making various things in shop,
including a cutting board in the shape of a pig.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:23:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07370
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:23:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E848BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:31:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12803616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:37:21 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68CbKZ21216 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:37:20 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust58.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.60]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005065743@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:37:10 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F122mjOHaeKyf9kaN3g00009408@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2987CD.2BFE7329@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:38:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> Isn't the appropriate thing to leave ALL of the leftovers there??!

I should think so. Or at least leave all or nothing. It might be that
the host wouldn't have refrigerator space for everything if there were a
lot of leftovers, or that you needed to take home the container and
there was nothing into which to transfer the contents. But to parcel out
half to leave and half to take seems a bit odd to me.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:27:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07384
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:27:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FF06D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:41:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12804193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:41:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68CfNZ22264 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:41:23 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5CDC87EFE; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 05:41:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708124119.5CDC87EFE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 05:41:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708084647.B15118@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul 8,
              2002  8:46:47 am"

steph said:
> =
> = Hey, Rashmi phone me today. You and JMW are two of the only holdouts!
> =
> = Karen
>
> And what am I?

You are a third holdout.

> chopped liver

Not at all!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:27:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07388
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:27:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8497A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:35:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12804197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:41:24 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68CfOZ22272 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:41:24 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust58.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.60]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005065827@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:41:24 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707174731.D231F7D02@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D288FF9.3000907@swbell.net> <3D2892E7.42EB5DF5@valstar.net>
            <3D28955D.3070707@swbell.net> <3D28974A.81A8FBC1@valstar.net>
            <3D28CADB.9AE9E64D@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2988CA.DEBAB9AC@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:42:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> I've never heard of anybody in the South making frosting.  That's a
> Yankee thing.  We make icing in the South

OK. Frosting = icing. No big deal there. But are you saying that y'all
eat <bare> cakes with no icing? I cannot believe it.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:29:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07392
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:29:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E849AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:38:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12804359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:43:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68ChVZ22643 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:43:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9B6597EAB; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 05:43:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708124325.9B6597EAB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 05:43:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708063531.009ffb80@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 8, 2002  6:37:37 am"

bonniev said:
> My Catholic grade school didn't offer Home Ec.

I thought Home Ec was a high school thing.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:29:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07396
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:29:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FF097@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:43:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12804383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:43:51 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68ChpZ22696 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:43:51 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-57.panax.com
          [65.114.190.57]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g68Chnj12458 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:43:49
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020708074130.00b57938@mail.panax.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707221752.00a1d0a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707214242.009fbd00@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020708014841.BC6D37DF9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707221752.00a1d0a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020708084250.A15118@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708074130.00b57938@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708084125.00b52b48@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:43:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708142655.A15733@yoccoz.multinix.com>

At 02:26 PM 7/8/2002 +0200, steph wrote:
>= easily).  Drain, mash thoroughly with butter and milk or as you usually
>= would do.  Add a clove of very finely chopped garlic, some fresh gound
>
>Uh oh.  Now I have to admit that I don't really have a sense of
>how to make mashed potatoes.  I can't even remember when the last
>time I had them was.
>
>Hmmm.  Time to experiment.  Is there something besides milk that
>will work?  We never have milk in the house.  Butter no problem.
>But I'm not gonna buy a pint of milk just for mashed potatoes.

Chicken broth will do; you could also use a bit of the water in which you
cooked the potatoes.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:30:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07405
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:30:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E849D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:39:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12804487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:44:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68CifZ22914 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:44:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 675B47CC7; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 05:44:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708124440.675B47CC7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 05:44:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207080748180.7142-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 8, 2002  7:49: 4 am"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> >Our birthday cakes came from the Jitney Jungle.  How horrible it
> >would've been to have been faced with a home-made cake instead.  And how
> >embarrassing if it had been for a birthday party.  Childhood is not a
> >time when one wants to seem <weird> to one's peers.  Besides, the bday
> >cakes from Jitney Jungle tasted right.  A substitute would've tasted
> >wrong.
>
> To me that is WAY weird -

Me, too. Bought cakes taste good, but they aren't for birthdays.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:33:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07409
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:33:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FF0E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:47:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12804689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:47:26 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68ClQZ23413 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:47:26 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-57.panax.com
          [65.114.190.57]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g68ClPj12973 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:47:25
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020708084250.A15118@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707221752.00a1d0a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707214242.009fbd00@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020708014841.BC6D37DF9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020707221752.00a1d0a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708084443.00b4f4a8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:47:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      for karen and steph:  addendum
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708074130.00b57938@mail.panax.com>

At 08:05 AM 7/8/2002 -0400, you wrote:

I forgot something.  Sometimes I will add a small amount (1-2 tsp) of
grated parmesan or other "flavorful" cheese.  ( I also suspect that that is
an ingredient in risotto cakes.)

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:33:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07416
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:33:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84A11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:42:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12804740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:48:00 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Cm0Z23521 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:48:00 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust58.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.60]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003757720@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:48:00 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D28ACE3.56334902@valstar.net> <3D28CF56.D756C829@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D298A56.EB2C917A@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:49:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: animal rescue
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> <sigh>.  I posted this info many days ago.  It's been a link on my web
> page for several days now.

I know you did Natalie, and am sorry for the duplication. I sent it out
to many places and Words-L received it automatically. I mean, I have an
auto-address for kids, sister, Words-L, and friends when I want to say
something to everyone all at once. I did not think to delete Words-L
from that list when I sent the animal rescue note.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:36:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07432
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:36:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FF171@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:50:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12805235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:50:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68CopZ24621 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:50:51 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1DBA87C59; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 05:50:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708125050.1DBA87C59@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 05:50:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D297FD5.61F3F9DD@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  7: 4:37 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Ann Borkin wrote:
> > > No, my question is why Karen found my response "disingenuous."  What's
> > > disingenuous about it?  That's all I'm curious about.
> >
> > I see, sort of a double disingenuosity.  Wanna make it triple?
>
> Yes.  Why did Karen find my response disingenuous?  The problem now,
> however, is that I don't remember exactly what we were talking about --
> what my response was.  I do remember not understanding why Karen found
> it disingenuous.
>
> Wait -- I do remember.  It was about cake-baking.  Karen expressed great
> surprise that my mother had lived 88 years without baking a cake.  I
> asked her why -- something like whether cake-baking was sacred.  I see
> nothing whatsoever disingenuous about that response and would like to
> know why Karen found it so.

Not just Karen--several meebers found it so.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:37:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07436
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:37:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FF191@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:51:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12805366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:51:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68CpcZ24807 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:51:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5BC6A7E02; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 05:51:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708125137.5BC6A7E02@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 05:51:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D298025.59D2A512@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  7: 5:57 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Where have you been?! I had contracts after I was laid off; I got paid
> > for those.
>
> Ok, so I'm back to not understanding unemployment insurance.  I thought
> it was for people without work.

Do you not get the concept of 'saving'? I haven't worked since November.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:37:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07440
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:37:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84AC7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:46:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12805398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:52:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Cq8Z24911 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:52:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AA2927CAA; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 05:52:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708125203.AA2927CAA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 05:52:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29803C.B814C3DF@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  7: 6:20 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > > Perhaps.  But not the ones I know.  I think of cake-baking as -- well --
> > > nevermind.
> >
> > Lower-class? Tacky?
>
> No.

Then what?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:42:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07444
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:42:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FF1EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:56:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12805751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:56:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68CuTZ25703 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:56:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 340AC7CC9; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 05:56:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708125625.340AC7CC9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 05:56:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708084125.00b52b48@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 8, 2002  8:43:48 am"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> At 02:26 PM 7/8/2002 +0200, steph wrote:
> >= easily).  Drain, mash thoroughly with butter and milk or as you usually
> >= would do.  Add a clove of very finely chopped garlic, some fresh gound
> >
> >Uh oh.  Now I have to admit that I don't really have a sense of
> >how to make mashed potatoes.  I can't even remember when the last
> >time I had them was.
> >
> >Hmmm.  Time to experiment.  Is there something besides milk that
> >will work?  We never have milk in the house.  Butter no problem.
> >But I'm not gonna buy a pint of milk just for mashed potatoes.
>
> Chicken broth will do; you could also use a bit of the water in which you
> cooked the potatoes.

I have to think about this. I'm going to boil a chicken later today,
and I was planning to throw the broth away because I have no more
containers to put broth in.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:45:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07459
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:45:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84B9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 8:54:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:59:39 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68CxcZ26416 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:59:38 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust58.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.60]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005066125@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 08:59:23 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F122mjOHaeKyf9kaN3g00009408@hotmail.com>
            <3D28DB64.A5A36D74@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D298D01.19B69A18@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:00:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>  explaining that I really hate leftover food and
> will no doubt throw it away.

This does not sound nice to me. You are asking these people to eat
something that you think should be thrown away?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:47:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07466
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:47:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FF2A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:01:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12806588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:01:48 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68D1lZ27409 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:01:47 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3DC2F8044; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 06:01:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708130145.3DC2F8044@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 06:01:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Why I like Austin
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

One reason: I love the fact that every newscast includes Tour de
France updates, including descriptions of the course.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 02:58:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07484
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 02:58:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84D40@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:07:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12807509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:12:38 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DCcZ29589 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:12:38 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc57 ([204.127.198.46]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020708131232.RSFT15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:12:32 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc57; Mon, 08 Jul 2002 13:12:30 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020708131232.RSFT15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:12:30 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sling Blade
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I know I'm a little late in answering this but I was away
for the weekend.

This happens to be one of my favorite movies. What drew
me in was Carl's voice. His grunting and the way he
explained things captivated me. I walked around for weeks
after seeing it for the first time quoting Carl, "...
some call it a kaiser blade.. I call it a sling blade"
and "I know.. we funny queer not funny haha".

Once I got past his voice, I was taken in by the story.
The best way I can describe it would be to say it was
different but familiar. There was nothing in that movie I
couldn't have predicted. At the same time, it shocked me.

As I consider this post I realize it's not a very good
one. It doesn't really express how I feel about the movie
but it's all that I can put into words.

lisa
> For those of you who like this movie, why do you like it?
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:04:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07509
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:04:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84DF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:13:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:18:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DIoZ30920 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:18:51 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 48F3A7D17; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 06:18:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708131848.48F3A7D17@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 06:18:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sling Blade
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708131232.RSFT15755.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> from
              Lisa Alfieri at "Jul 8, 2002  1:12:30 pm"

Lisa Alfieri said:
> I know I'm a little late in answering this but I was away
> for the weekend.

You're allowed.

> This happens to be one of my favorite movies. What drew
> me in was Carl's voice. His grunting and the way he
> explained things captivated me.

Ah. I found it repulsive.

> Once I got past his voice, I was taken in by the story.
> The best way I can describe it would be to say it was
> different but familiar. There was nothing in that movie I
> couldn't have predicted. At the same time, it shocked me.

Yes, I understand this.

> As I consider this post I realize it's not a very good
> one. It doesn't really express how I feel about the movie
> but it's all that I can put into words.

No, that helps. Actually, I know that Janet liked it, and I was
wondering if she would answer (except she's away, now that I think on
it). I think I posted the query some time in the first half hour, when
I was Not Enthused. Then I got pulled in, and then I hated the ending.

One thing I will say--Billy Bob Thornton was amazing. It's hard to
imagine him as the same guy that was in that bad bank robber movie
with Bruce Willis.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:05:57 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07516
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:05:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FF461@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:20:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:20:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DK9Z31123 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:20:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws136-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.136]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68DK6Q01625
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:20:07 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F122mjOHaeKyf9kaN3g00009408@hotmail.com>
            <3D2987CD.2BFE7329@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D299180.D550AF3D@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:20:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:
> But to parcel out
> half to leave and half to take seems a bit odd to me.

I don't think I've ever witnessed that occurrence.  I can imagine
situations when it might be ok to do, though.  Depends on what the stuff
is, who the hosts are, refrigerator space, etc. etc.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:07:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07525
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:07:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84E37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:15:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:21:18 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DLIZ31476 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:21:18 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws136-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.136]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68DLFQ01794
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:21:16 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707174731.D231F7D02@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D288FF9.3000907@swbell.net> <3D2892E7.42EB5DF5@valstar.net>
            <3D28955D.3070707@swbell.net> <3D28974A.81A8FBC1@valstar.net>
            <3D28CADB.9AE9E64D@maynor.net> <3D2988CA.DEBAB9AC@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2991C6.D07896A1@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:21:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:
> > I've never heard of anybody in the South making frosting.  That's a
> > Yankee thing.  We make icing in the South
>
> OK. Frosting = icing. No big deal there. But are you saying that y'all
> eat <bare> cakes with no icing? I cannot believe it.

No, I was saying we don't make frosting.  We make icing.  Icing is the
only part of a cake I like.  When I get cake in the cafeteria, I eat the
icing and leave most of the cake.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:10:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07780
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:10:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FF4D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:24:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:24:34 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DOYZ32180 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:24:34 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws136-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.136]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68DOVQ02420
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:24:31 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708124440.675B47CC7@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D299289.10044291@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:24:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > To me that is WAY weird -
>
> Me, too. Bought cakes taste good, but they aren't for birthdays.

It's a good thing neither of you lived in Jackson -- or if you moved
there, I would hope it would have been long enough before your bday for
you to realize how embarrassing it would be for your mother to serve
home-make cake at your bday party.  I don't think I ever saw it happen,
but I can imagine the awkwardness and horror and strange glances among
the party guests.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:11:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08569
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:11:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84EBC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:20:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:25:41 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DPfZ32337 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:25:41 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws136-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.136]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68DPcQ02673
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:25:39 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D28ACE3.56334902@valstar.net> <3D28CF56.D756C829@maynor.net>
            <3D298A56.EB2C917A@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2992CD.41FF465D@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:25:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: animal rescue
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:
>
> Natalie Maynor wrote:
> >
> > <sigh>.  I posted this info many days ago.  It's been a link on my web
> > page for several days now.
>
> I know you did Natalie, and am sorry for the duplication. I sent it out

The duplication is fine.  The more spreading of the word, the better.  I
was just feeling choppedliverish, thinking I'd been ignored.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:13:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08573
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:13:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FF4FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:27:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:27:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DREZ32571 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:27:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C3F447EFA; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 06:27:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708132711.C3F447EFA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 06:27:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D299289.10044291@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  8:24:25 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> It's a good thing neither of you lived in Jackson -- or if you moved
> there, I would hope it would have been long enough before your bday for
> you to realize how embarrassing it would be for your mother to serve
> home-make cake at your bday party.

Since my mother's been dead for several years, I would find it
embarrassing for her to be serving anything at any party.

> I don't think I ever saw it happen,
> but I can imagine the awkwardness and horror and strange glances among
> the party guests.

Brithday parties aren't for outsiders.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:13:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08577
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:13:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FF500@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:27:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:27:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DRSZ32581 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:27:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws136-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.136]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68DRQQ02965
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:27:26 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708125050.1DBA87C59@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D299338.FF5651EA@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:27:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > Wait -- I do remember.  It was about cake-baking.  Karen expressed great
> > surprise that my mother had lived 88 years without baking a cake.  I
> > asked her why -- something like whether cake-baking was sacred.  I see
> > nothing whatsoever disingenuous about that response and would like to
> > know why Karen found it so.
>
> Not just Karen--several meebers found it so.

I was thinking you were the one who used the word.  But it doesn't
really matter who said it or thought it.  My only question is why.  I
find that a very weird assessment.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:14:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08581
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:14:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84EFF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:22:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:28:16 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DSGZ32654 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:28:16 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws136-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.136]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68DSDQ03133
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:28:14 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708125137.5BC6A7E02@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D299368.4C8EE374@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:28:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Natalie Maynor said:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > Where have you been?! I had contracts after I was laid off; I got paid
> > > for those.
> >
> > Ok, so I'm back to not understanding unemployment insurance.  I thought
> > it was for people without work.
>
> Do you not get the concept of 'saving'? I haven't worked since November.

It's the timeframe I don't get.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:14:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08585
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:14:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84F14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:23:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12808940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:28:49 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DSnZ32719 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:28:49 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws136-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.136]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68DSkQ03230
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:28:47 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708125203.AA2927CAA@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D299388.1B8EE81@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:28:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Natalie Maynor said:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > > > Perhaps.  But not the ones I know.  I think of cake-baking as -- well --
> > > > nevermind.
> > >
> > > Lower-class? Tacky?
> >
> > No.
>
> Then what?

What a disingenuous question!

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:16:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08594
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:16:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FF533@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:30:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:30:45 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DUjZ00650 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:30:45 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws136-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.136]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68DUfQ03605
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:30:42 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F122mjOHaeKyf9kaN3g00009408@hotmail.com>
            <3D28DB64.A5A36D74@maynor.net> <3D298D01.19B69A18@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2993FC.D5F43B3@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:30:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> >  explaining that I really hate leftover food and
> > will no doubt throw it away.
>
> This does not sound nice to me. You are asking these people to eat
> something that you think should be thrown away?

No.  I said nothing about "should be thrown away."

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:20:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08968
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:20:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84F9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:28:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:34:17 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DYHZ01085 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:34:17 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws136-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.136]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68DYDQ04242
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:34:14 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708132711.C3F447EFA@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2994D0.6327307B@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:34:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > It's a good thing neither of you lived in Jackson -- or if you moved
> > there, I would hope it would have been long enough before your bday for
> > you to realize how embarrassing it would be for your mother to serve
> > home-make cake at your bday party.
>
> Since my mother's been dead for several years, I would find it
> embarrassing for her to be serving anything at any party.

Note my past tense.  I don't live in Jackson now either.  Nor have I had
a birthday party in the past 45 or so years.

> > I don't think I ever saw it happen,
> > but I can imagine the awkwardness and horror and strange glances among
> > the party guests.
>
> Brithday parties aren't for outsiders.

I'm not sure what you mean about outsiders.  It was considered bad
manners in my elementary school not to invite the whole class to
birthday parties.  In junior high we tended to have much smaller parties
involving movies or whatever.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:22:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08972
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:22:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84FD9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:31:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:36:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DafZ01309 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:36:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0B6747FCA; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 06:36:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708133635.0B6747FCA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 06:36:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D299368.4C8EE374@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  8:28: 8 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > Natalie Maynor said:
> > > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > > Where have you been?! I had contracts after I was laid off; I got paid
> > > > for those.
> > >
> > > Ok, so I'm back to not understanding unemployment insurance.  I thought
> > > it was for people without work.
> >
> > Do you not get the concept of 'saving'? I haven't worked since November.
>
> It's the timeframe I don't get.

I don't think it's the only thing you don't get, but okay, what don't
you get about the time frame?

Here's how it works:

1) I worked.
2) I got laid off.
3) I applied for unemployment.
4) I got a contract.
   During the time the contract runs, I don't apply for
   unemployment. I live off of savings.
5) The contract finished, and I got paid.
6) I applied for unemployment.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:23:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08979
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:23:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E84FFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:32:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:38:07 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Dc6Z01604 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:38:07 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-114.panax.com
          [65.114.190.114]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g68Dc5j19385 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:38:05
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020708063531.009ffb80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708093718.009fa660@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:37:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708124325.9B6597EAB@yellow.rahul.net>

>bonniev said:
> > My Catholic grade school didn't offer Home Ec.
>
>I thought Home Ec was a high school thing.
>Karen

That was not my experience.  Although these days eighth grade would be
considered Junior High.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:25:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08983
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:25:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FF604@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:39:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:39:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DdUZ01828 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:39:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2BEC47FE2; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 06:38:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708133835.2BEC47FE2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 06:38:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D299338.FF5651EA@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  8:27:20 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > Wait -- I do remember.  It was about cake-baking.  Karen expressed great
> > > surprise that my mother had lived 88 years without baking a cake.  I
> > > asked her why -- something like whether cake-baking was sacred.  I see
> > > nothing whatsoever disingenuous about that response and would like to
> > > know why Karen found it so.
> >
> > Not just Karen--several meebers found it so.
>
> I was thinking you were the one who used the word.  But it doesn't
> really matter who said it or thought it.  My only question is why.  I
> find that a very weird assessment.

Well, I found it very weird that you gave me the options of a)
advocating that your mother be killed immediately or b) abandoning my
postion (that most people have baked cakes some time in their
lifetimes).

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:25:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08987
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:25:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E85025@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:34:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12809663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:39:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DdbZ01837 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:39:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7915A7FB8; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 06:39:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708133901.7915A7FB8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 06:39:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D299388.1B8EE81@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  8:28:40 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > Natalie Maynor said:
> > > Karen Kay wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Perhaps.  But not the ones I know.  I think of cake-baking as -- well --
> > > > > nevermind.
> > > >
> > > > Lower-class? Tacky?
> > >
> > > No.
> >
> > Then what?
>
> What a disingenuous question!

Not.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:30:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08999
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:30:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E850A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:39:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:44:45 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DijZ02641 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:44:45 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust42.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.44]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003758843@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:44:45 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707231524.93E717CB1@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D28DD9E.AC019D12@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2997A1.7BCB5BC9@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:46:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>  Is making cakes a <requirement> in life?

Did you not have birthday candles? Upon what did you put them?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:32:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA09003
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:32:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E850DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:40:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:46:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DkNZ02967 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:46:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 63E967E1A; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 06:46:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708134620.63E967E1A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 06:46:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2997A1.7BCB5BC9@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 8,
              2002  9:46: 9 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Natalie Maynor wrote:
> >  Is making cakes a <requirement> in life?
>
> Did you not have birthday candles? Upon what did you put them?

Cakes bought at Jitney Jungle.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:37:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA09019
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:37:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E85194@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:46:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:52:04 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Dq4Z03659 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:52:04 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust42.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.44]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005067110@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:52:04 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708004853.B5B807E81@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D28E480.6D22B248@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D299958.E8931FB0@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:53:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Why do you think my AC is set on 90?  I set it on 90 if I'm going out of
> town, but normally it's on 80, if it's on.

Don't the dogs get too hot? Spike sort of fades out if it is over 80.
Last week when we had 95-113F, he was a limp blob and very
uncomfortable. As was I.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:40:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA09026
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:40:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E851E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:49:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12810809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:54:48 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DsmZ04019 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:54:48 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust42.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.44]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005067151@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:54:47 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072124120.7976-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D28F622.B0BD09BA@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2999FC.71A9F291@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:56:12 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>  What I call my heat is "the heat."

Whence cometh your heat?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:45:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA09041
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:45:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FF83E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:59:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 09:59:55 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68DxtZ04837 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:59:55 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08622 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:59:46 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02
          09:59:47 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02 09:59:31 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D296278.4579.55EB21@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:59:21 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D299958.E8931FB0@valstar.net>

 Last week was a week when I was glad NOT to be in Toronto. In
addition to the 35 degree heat there was the smoke from Quebec's
forest fires and the fun of the garbage piling up everywhere.
 It may well be urban legend, but I remember hearing stories that
during one of NY's garbage strikes people were gift wrapping their
trash and leaving it on the front seat of the car so it would be stolen.
This solution would be less likely to work in Toronto.

BrP




>
> Don't the dogs get too hot? Spike sort of fades out if it is over 80.
> Last week when we had 95-113F, he was a limp blob and very
> uncomfortable. As was I.
>
> alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:49:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA09045
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:49:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E853B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 9:57:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12811701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:03:23 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68E3NZ05565 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:03:23 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust42.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.44]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003759200@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:03:14 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708005049.AA8657CA0@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D28E537.E1B6F0B9@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D299BF6.BC69E324@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:04:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

 Is my mother in
> jeopardy for not having made a cake?

No. Did you have a cook?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:59:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA09054
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:59:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E854C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:07:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12812534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:13:14 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68EDDZ07082 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:13:13 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13570 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:13:13 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02
          10:13:13 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02 10:12:50 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D2965A1.22010.62426B@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:12:49 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2991C6.D07896A1@maynor.net>

I tend to be the opposite.  We'll have to get together for cake eating
some time.

BrP


>
> No, I was saying we don't make frosting.  We make icing.  Icing is the
> only part of a cake I like.  When I get cake in the cafeteria, I eat the
> icing and leave most of the cake.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 03:59:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA09061
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 03:59:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FF995@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:13:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12812576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:13:37 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68EDbZ07156 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:13:37 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust42.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.44]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003759423@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:13:36 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072121460.7976-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D28F5C1.8380DEDE@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D299E64.9044DD36@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:15:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
> Our birthday cakes came from the Jitney Jungle.

Jitney Jungle sounds to me like a place selling used car parts, clogged
carbeurators, rusting bumpers, etc. What an odd name for a birthday cake
store.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:02:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09071
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:02:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E85522@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:11:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12812842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:16:49 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68EGnZ07698 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:16:49 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYX007IMP00R2@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 08 Jul 2002 09:16:48 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020708023118.95FC17D17@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D290095.70702@swbell.net> <3D298335.6B4F3F2@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D299E78.2060105@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:15:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>>>You seem to be the generation that was expected to
>>>>be nice housewives.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>You must mean Natalie.
>>>
>>        Yes, but both of you, really.
>>
>
> I was certainly of that generation.  But nobody expected us to take home
> ec courses.  It's true, I think, that the career expectations of those
> days influenced what many of us chose to major in.  There were
> exceptions, of course, but in general girls of my generation majored in
> housewifely fields like English, almost always getting teaching
> certificates.  The <normal> routine was to get married right after
> college and teach while your spouse finished med school or law school or
> whatever.  Then after your children were grown, you might choose to go
> back to teaching.  So even then things had changed from my mother's
> generation, when most women didn't seem to have working plans at all.
> My mother majored in English but without a teaching certificate.


        This is why there are so many very wretched English teachers.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:03:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09078
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:03:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E85530@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:12:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12812901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:17:25 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68EHPZ07887 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:17:25 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust42.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.44]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003759506@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:17:10 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D286B0A.6617.204DDD7@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D299F3A.F6A57E99@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:18:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Michael E. Macmillan" wrote:

> Well, I'll wager that more American women have made cakes than have been
> to Europe.

A good many men have made cakes, too. Doug and Jeff do a good job of it.
And Ken makes them frequently, as did my late Significant Other.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:04:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09082
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:04:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8555E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:13:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12813067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:18:48 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68EIlZ08154 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:18:47 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust42.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.44]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003759546@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:18:47 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708011934.86D047C49@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D28F7AF.6000004@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D299F9B.2391E7BE@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:20:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>         Didn't you have to learn how to make cakes in home economics
> class?  You seem to be the generation that was expected to
> be nice housewives.

I am in that generation, but never took home ec, or typing.

alyce
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:04:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09086
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:04:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E85562@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:13:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12813093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:19:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68EJ6Z08222 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:19:06 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6CAEB7F92; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 07:19:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708141900.6CAEB7F92@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:19:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D299E64.9044DD36@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 8,
              2002 10:15: 0 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > Our birthday cakes came from the Jitney Jungle.
>
> Jitney Jungle sounds to me like a place selling used car parts, clogged
> carbeurators, rusting bumpers, etc. What an odd name for a birthday cake
> store.

Why 'rusting'? Or is that where the 'jungle' comes in?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:06:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09090
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:06:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FFA52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:21:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12813283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:21:04 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68EL4Z08554 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:21:04 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYX007QMP74R2@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 08 Jul 2002 09:21:04 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020708124440.675B47CC7@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D299289.10044291@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D299F78.80907@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:19:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Karen Kay wrote:
>
>
>>>To me that is WAY weird -
>>>
>>Me, too. Bought cakes taste good, but they aren't for birthdays.
>>
>
> It's a good thing neither of you lived in Jackson -- or if you moved
> there, I would hope it would have been long enough before your bday for
> you to realize how embarrassing it would be for your mother to serve
> home-make cake at your bday party.  I don't think I ever saw it happen,
> but I can imagine the awkwardness and horror and strange glances among
> the party guests.
>


        Why?  Is it a class thing?  My mom can afford to *buy* me a cake?



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:08:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09099
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:08:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FFA7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:22:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12813556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:22:33 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68EMWZ09123 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:22:32 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16795 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:22:30 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02
          10:22:31 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02 10:22:30 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D2967E3.28028.6B1587@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:22:28 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D299F3A.F6A57E99@valstar.net>

I made a cake yesterday. Chocolate - 2 layers - first layer drizzled
with cherry liquer - iced with real whipped cream - decorated with
canned cherries and with blackberries picked from the yard -
consumed by 20 houseguests in about 10 minutes.

BrP


> A good many men have made cakes, too. Doug and Jeff do a good job of it.
> And Ken makes them frequently, as did my late Significant Other.
>
> alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:09:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09103
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:09:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8561E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:18:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12813701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:23:29 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68ENTZ09383 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:23:29 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust42.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.44]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003759628@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:23:28 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D286B0A.6617.204DDD7@localhost> <3D28FAE7.3AB66662@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D29A0B4.8BA238DB@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:24:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Perhaps.  But not the ones I know.  I think of cake-baking as -- well --
> nevermind.

I do not want to put words into your mouth, but I am getting the
impression that you think that baking cakes is demeaning or beneath
one's station.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:14:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09108
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:14:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E856CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:23:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12814229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:28:38 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68EScZ10348 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:28:38 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYX003F5PJP3Z@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 08 Jul 2002 09:28:38 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020708063531.009ffb80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708093718.009fa660@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID:  <3D29A13D.2090700@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:27:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

>> bonniev said:
>> > My Catholic grade school didn't offer Home Ec.
>>
>> I thought Home Ec was a high school thing.
>> Karen
>
>
> That was not my experience.  Although these days eighth grade would be
> considered Junior High.
>


        We took it in Junior High.  You could take either home ec or
shop.  In 7th grade you learned basic cooking, manners,
nutrition, and in 8th grade you learned sewing.  I'm not
sure what they did in shop -- I think two or three girls
from my division (we were tracked) took shop. During my 7th
grade year, Mass. passed something called Proposition 2 1/2,
which limited property taxes to 2 1/2 percent of the
assessed value and threw the town budget into a tailspin.
The Junior High building was closed, the middle school kids
were shoved back into the elementary schools, and the Junior
High kids went to the Frolio Middle School building (which
had new windows and was more efficient to run than the
H-shaped and sprawly Junior High building).  In any case,
Home Ec. was eliminated forever and I never got to take
sewing.  I regret this.  My mom could have taught me, of
course, except that she worked full-time and had two younger
kids behind me, etc.  I was always tracked into the
college-prep classes and was around the top of my class -- I
think that sort of thing was not a consideration.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:16:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09120
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:16:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E856FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:25:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12814391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:30:25 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68EUPZ10792 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:30:25 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust42.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.44]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003759767@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:30:23 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707225737.00a1a200@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <4.2.2.20020707204904.00a6a8b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D29A254.5D66FADC@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:31:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:
>
> Who is left?  Did you hear from Nancy or Susan?

There are several left, but I won't name names.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:17:12 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09140
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:17:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FFB55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:31:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12814566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:31:23 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68EVLZ11141 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:31:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3DE497FA7; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 07:31:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708143118.3DE497FA7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:31:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2967E3.28028.6B1587@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              8, 2002 10:22:28 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> I made a cake yesterday. Chocolate - 2 layers - first layer drizzled
> with cherry liquer - iced with real whipped cream - decorated with
> canned cherries and with blackberries picked from the yard -
> consumed by 20 houseguests in about 10 minutes.

I'm surprised it took that long.:)

You have 20 people staying at your house? Jeeze!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:19:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09144
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:19:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E85782@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:27:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12814950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:33:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68EXCZ12031 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:33:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 460B17FC5; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 07:33:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708143310.460B17FC5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:33:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29A254.5D66FADC@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 8,
              2002 10:31:48 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Betty wrote:
> > Who is left?  Did you hear from Nancy or Susan?
>
> There are several left, but I won't name names.

Duh, Karen!!!! Sorry for making you chopped liver. I would be happy to
hear from you.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:32:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09158
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:32:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FFD02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:47:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12816482 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:47:06 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68El5Z15547 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:47:06 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 44DF57E31; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 07:47:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708144701.44DF57E31@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:47:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I bought some Sam's Choice cola and tried it on a very stubborn sink.
In the past, I have dumped bleach down there, but I know that this is
a horrible thing to do, and I didn't LIKE doing it, but this drain has
been recalcitrant ever since I moved in. (It's my sink in the master
bath, so I use it a lot.)

Well, it worked like a charm. I was extremely impressed.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:34:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09165
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:34:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FFD3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:48:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12816681 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:48:45 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68EmiZ15838 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:48:45 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26085 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:48:42 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02
          10:48:43 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02 10:48:25 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D2967E3.28028.6B1587@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul   
            8, 2002 10:22:28 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D296DEF.32283.82B640@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:48:16 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708143118.3DE497FA7@yellow.rahul.net>

I did over the weekend. A total of 25 ranging in age from 1 to 65.
They have all returned to Toronto, Montreal, Boston, Vermont,
Buffalo and Delaware now.  It's not that uncommon for me to have
dozens of people for several days.  I have four bedrooms, two
enclosed porches and two living rooms - all with sleeping space.
The most I've ever hosted was the 50 or so who showed up for Pride
Weekend a few years ago.  Mostly this is a crowd that doesn't mind
<being close>.

BrP




>
> You have 20 people staying at your house? Jeeze!
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:37:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09169
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:37:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E85A37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:46:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12817060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:51:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68EpdZ16499 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:51:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EC8CB7FC5; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 07:51:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708145136.EC8CB7FC5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:51:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D296DEF.32283.82B640@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              8, 2002 10:48:16 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> I did over the weekend. A total of 25 ranging in age from 1 to 65.

My lordy.

How are your toilets?

> It's not that uncommon for me to have
> dozens of people for several days.  I have four bedrooms, two
> enclosed porches and two living rooms - all with sleeping space.

Ah. That's a lot of space.

> The most I've ever hosted was the 50 or so who showed up for Pride
> Weekend a few years ago.  Mostly this is a crowd that doesn't mind
> <being close>.

LOL. Yeah.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:39:31 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09181
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:39:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000FFDBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:53:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12817180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:53:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68EreZ16752 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:53:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A94CF7FB8; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 07:53:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708145338.A94CF7FB8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:53:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D296DEF.32283.82B640@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              8, 2002 10:48:16 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> I did over the weekend. A total of 25 ranging in age from 1 to 65.

Okay, this shows how far <gone> I am: all I can think of is the
expense, re water and A/C. And toiet paper. I don't *like* having that
be the first thing I think of.

I suppose Natalie would think of the difficult garbage first,
though.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:43:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09189
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:43:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E85AEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:52:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12817657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:58:05 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Ew5Z17696 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:58:05 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust42.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.44]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005068431@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:58:02 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708124440.675B47CC7@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D299289.10044291@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D29A8CD.B1C32BD9@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:59:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> but I can imagine the awkwardness and horror and strange glances among
> the party guests.

Oh, yes. I can just imagine little children making an assessment of the
cake, noting that it did not have the Jitney Jungle provenance stamp on
it, and refusing to eat it. And then going home to tell their mothers
how embarrassing it was, resulting in the whole town's knowing how tacky
the hostess was ere long.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:45:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09205
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:45:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FFE55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:59:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12817806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 10:59:27 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68ExRZ17985 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:59:27 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29718 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:59:26 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02
          10:59:27 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02 10:59:02 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D296DEF.32283.82B640@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul   
            8, 2002 10:48:16 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D29706C.21554.8C6CBD@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:58:52 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708145338.A94CF7FB8@yellow.rahul.net>

>
> Okay, this shows how far <gone> I am: all I can think of is the
> expense, re water and A/C. And toiet paper. I don't *like* having that
> be the first thing I think of.


Water is cheap in Syracuse, I have no A/C and people kicked in for
the cost of supplies.  Also, everyone was great about cooking,
cleaning up, etc.  The hardest thing is often the lost and found issue.
This time there doesn't seem to be a lot of extra stuff lurking around,
but when they were all here for New Year it took me months to
locate the owners of and return items to those who had left things
behind.

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:46:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09209
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:46:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000FFE7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:00:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12817889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:00:41 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68F0fZ18157 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:00:41 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust42.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.44]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005068482@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:00:40 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F122mjOHaeKyf9kaN3g00009408@hotmail.com>
            <3D28DB64.A5A36D74@maynor.net> <3D298D01.19B69A18@valstar.net>
            <3D2993FC.D5F43B3@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D29A96C.2AED2EB7@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:02:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
> No.  I said nothing about "should be thrown away."
>
<sigh> Yes, you did. You said you'd tell the people you'd  throw the
food away if they did not take it.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:53:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09220
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:53:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E85CA6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:02:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12818537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:08:03 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68F83Z19426 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:08:03 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust42.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.44]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003760546@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:07:29 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D296278.4579.55EB21@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D29AB03.D1800C0A@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:08:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
>  It may well be urban legend, but I remember hearing stories that
> during one of NY's garbage strikes people were gift wrapping their
> trash and leaving it on the front seat of the car so it would be stolen.

I think that one person did that, and it made the papers. It was a
terrible thing, with garbage piled higher than my head, with mousies and
rats running about in full view. I know that rodents always are present,
but usually not quite so visible. One of my nieces came to visit. I
think she was about 8, and she thought that the garbage was that way all
the time, a sign of a big city.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:56:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09224
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:56:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000FFF8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:10:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12818853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:10:36 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68FAaZ20038 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:10:36 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust42.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.44]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003760608@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:10:32 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708141900.6CAEB7F92@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D29ABB0.A500CE2B@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:11:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> Why 'rusting'? Or is that where the 'jungle' comes in?

Rusting because they're used. Jungle (to me) implies crowded with
auto-part life with no clear paths amidst it.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:59:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09231
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:59:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E85DD8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:07:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12819142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:13:14 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68FDEZ20617 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:13:14 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04700 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:13:13 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02
          11:13:14 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02 11:06:03 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D297217.28309.92EFDF@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:05:59 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29A96C.2AED2EB7@valstar.net>

Yesterday afternoon as everyone was leaving I spread all of the
<leftovers> on the kitchen counter, issued a loud "take this stuff
home with you" and came back a few minutes later to an empty
counter except for a half bottle of wine and a box of Bisquick.  Not
bad at all.


BrP




> Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > No.  I said nothing about "should be thrown away."
> >
> <sigh> Yes, you did. You said you'd tell the people you'd  throw the
> food away if they did not take it.
>
> alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 04:59:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09238
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 04:59:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E85DDB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:07:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12819151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:13:18 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68FDIZ20631 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:13:18 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04733 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:13:16 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02
          11:13:17 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02 11:06:53 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D296DEF.32283.82B640@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul   
            8, 2002 10:48:16 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D297244.851.93A28D@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:06:45 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708145136.EC8CB7FC5@yellow.rahul.net>

>
> How are your toilets?

usually quite busy

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 05:03:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09247
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 05:03:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E85EA9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:12:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12819150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:17:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68FHqZ21200 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:17:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 220158044; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 08:17:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708151735.220158044@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:17:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29A96C.2AED2EB7@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 8,
              2002 11: 2: 4 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > No.  I said nothing about "should be thrown away."
> >
> <sigh> Yes, you did. You said you'd tell the people you'd  throw the
> food away if they did not take it.

One of the people who came to my house a few weeks ago made crawfish
etouffe, and he suggested we throw it out at the end of the party,
because it had been sitting out. I was horrified, and so were other
partygoers. I ended up having enough of it that My New Friend and I
had it for dinner, and I had it for lunch twice. And then it leapt out
of the refrigerator at me and spilt itself on the floor, and that was
the end of it. But there were still many servings left at that point.

To sum up:), one person's trash is another's treasure.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 05:04:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09254
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 05:04:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E85ED4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:13:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12819217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:18:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68FIgZ21327 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:18:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BFF9D7F7B; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 08:18:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708151837.BFF9D7F7B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:18:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D297244.851.93A28D@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul 8,
              2002 11: 6:45 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> > How are your toilets?
>
> usually quite busy

:)

Judith's plumbing was brought low by Clambake, and my toilets are
already so lame you have to flush twice.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 05:07:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09258
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 05:07:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E85F72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:16:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12819445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:21:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68FLlZ21770 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:21:48 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B63EE7F7B; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 08:21:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708152143.B63EE7F7B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:21:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29706C.21554.8C6CBD@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              8, 2002 10:58:52 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> >
> > Okay, this shows how far <gone> I am: all I can think of is the
> > expense, re water and A/C. And toiet paper. I don't *like* having that
> > be the first thing I think of.
>
>
> Water is cheap in Syracuse, I have no A/C and people kicked in for
> the cost of supplies.  Also, everyone was great about cooking,
> cleaning up, etc.

Yes. The expectation is that everything would be copacetic, but I'm
just saying that I had a <spasm> of niggardliness and I didn't like it.

> The hardest thing is often the lost and found issue.
> This time there doesn't seem to be a lot of extra stuff lurking around,
> but when they were all here for New Year it took me months to
> locate the owners of and return items to those who had left things
> behind.

LOL. The austin.food people are having another party next weekend, and
I will be giving back stuff people left at my house then. The lost and
found stuff is a pain--but even worse, I found that someone broke
something and hid the pieces. That made me angry. (The hiding, not the
breaking. The breaking was stupid--they should have asked me how to
play it.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 05:10:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09270
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 05:10:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00100121@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:24:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12819656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:24:17 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68FOGZ22086 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:24:16 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id SAA11900 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:24:15
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA11817 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon,
          8 Jul 2002 18:24:13 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708144701.44DF57E31@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D29AE71.C8A96B96@akad.ee>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:23:30 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The day you sent the address of that site it didn't open here. Today it
did.

> Well, it worked like a charm. I was extremely impressed.

Wow(?) Better than Johnson&Johnson "Plumbers" and what are the names of
all these? One must calculate, perhaps Cola is cheaper.

>Can it be a
>diet cola? Would Seven-Up work?

lol -- Though, maybe there's nothing to lol at, you never know.

from the site: "If you have cooked on crud, pour some cola into the
pan..."

I guess I have to try this next time. Aamf, we hardly ever buy cola, so
there is little hope to have any cola left over at home.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 05:12:12 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09277
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 05:12:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00100153@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:26:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12819942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:26:21 -0400
Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68FQLZ22782 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:26:21 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.161] ([208.138.31.74]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with
          ESMTP id <20020708142438.MZKC13091.mail@[208.138.31.74]> for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:24:38 -0400
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B94F194A.E778%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:26:18 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708152143.B63EE7F7B@yellow.rahul.net>

On 8/7/2002 10:21 AM, Karen Kay wrote:

>
> Yes. The expectation is that everything would be copacetic, but I'm
> just saying that I had a <spasm> of niggardliness and I didn't like it.

I thought that word had been deemed un-PC. That N-word there that Karen
used.

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 05:29:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09318
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 05:29:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E863B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:38:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12821827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:43:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68FhXZ26257 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:43:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 14E877F91; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 08:43:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708154328.14E877F91@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:43:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29AE71.C8A96B96@akad.ee> from Kristin Sarv at "Jul 8,
              2002  6:23:30 pm"

Kristin Sarv said:
> The day you sent the address of that site it didn't open here. Today it
> did.
>
> > Well, it worked like a charm. I was extremely impressed.
>
> Wow(?) Better than Johnson&Johnson "Plumbers" and what are the names of
> all these? One must calculate, perhaps Cola is cheaper.

Cheaper and less toxic.

> I guess I have to try this next time. Aamf, we hardly ever buy cola, so
> there is little hope to have any cola left over at home.

I don't drink regular cola, and this is generic, not Coca Cola, so
probably no one else will drink it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 05:30:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09334
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 05:30:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E863E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:39:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12821897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:44:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68FiSZ26358 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:44:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B97B27EDA; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 08:44:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708154423.B97B27EDA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:44:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B94F194A.E778%peterlevy@email.com> from Peter Levy at "Jul 8,
              2002 10:26:18 am"

Peter Levy said:
> On 8/7/2002 10:21 AM, Karen Kay wrote:
> > Yes. The expectation is that everything would be copacetic, but I'm
> > just saying that I had a <spasm> of niggardliness and I didn't like it.
>
> I thought that word had been deemed un-PC. That N-word there that Karen
> used.

I couldn't think of another word. I guess 'parsimoniousness' would work.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 05:31:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09338
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 05:31:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8640B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:39:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12822038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:45:23 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68FjMZ26670 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:45:22 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17485 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:43:56 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02
          11:43:57 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02 11:43:44 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <20020708152143.B63EE7F7B@yellow.rahul.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D297AE6.16338.D88065@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:43:35 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B94F194A.E778%peterlevy@email.com>

It's a word I wouldn't use if I thought the audience was stupid
enough to mistake it for a version of the real N-word - and I would
feel bad at having to censor myself for the sake of ignorance if I
made that choice.  Can anyone think of other words that would fit
this category?  Thespian?  Bitch when you're really talking about a
female dog?

BrP




>
> I thought that word had been deemed un-PC. That N-word there that Karen
> used.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 05:32:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09349
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 05:32:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8646B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:41:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12822244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:47:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Fl1Z27139 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:47:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 515188176; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 08:46:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708154659.515188176@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:46:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D297AE6.16338.D88065@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              8, 2002 11:43:35 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> It's a word I wouldn't use if I thought the audience was stupid
> enough to mistake it for a version of the real N-word - and I would
> feel bad at having to censor myself for the sake of ignorance if I
> made that choice.

Perzackly. I didn't know you lived in my brain.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 05:36:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09359
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 05:36:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E864F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:45:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12822457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:50:30 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68FoUZ27613 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:50:30 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19770 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:50:30 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02
          11:50:30 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02 11:50:05 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D297AE6.16338.D88065@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul   
            8, 2002 11:43:35 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D297C6A.20599.DE6CCE@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:50:03 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708154659.515188176@yellow.rahul.net>

It often seems so - or vice versa.

:-)



>
> Perzackly. I didn't know you lived in my brain.:)
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 05:41:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09380
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 05:41:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E865B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:49:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12821995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:55:13 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68FjDZ26552 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:45:13 -0400
Received: from cable.net.co (cr2167257172.cable.net.co [216.72.57.172]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g68FiUZ19421; Mon, 8
          Jul 2002 11:44:36 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Message-ID:  <318.806355.350746@cable.net.co>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:55:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: gt3@CABLE.NET.CO
Subject:      Save up to 40% on cartridges for printers copiers and faxes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

<html>
<x-tab>

<head>
</head>

<p align="center">
<b><a href="mailto:gt2@cable.net.co"><font color="#000080" size="3" face="Arial">GT TONER
SUPPLIES<br>Laser printer and computer supplies<br>
  1-866-237-7397</font></a></b>

<p align="center">
<img border="0" src="http://www.tonerlocity.com/images/groopcopier.gif" width="81" height="69">
<p>
<b><i><font color="#808000" face="Arial" size="4">Save up to 40% from retail price on laser printer toner
cartridges,<br>
copier and fax cartridges.</font></i>
</b> </p>
<p>
<b><i><a href="#prices"><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3" color="#0000FF">CHECK OUT OUR GREAT
PRICES!</font></a></i>
</b> </p>

<p><b><i><font color="#808000" size="4" face="Arial">Please forward to the person responsible for purchasing your laser printer
supplies.</font></i>
</p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><font color="#808000"><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Order by
phone: (toll free) 1-866-237-7397
</font><font color="#000080"> <br>
</font><font color="#808000"><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Order by email: </font>
</font>
<font color="#0000FF" face="Arial" size="3">Simply reply</font><font color="#000080"> this message or </font><a href="mailto:gt2@cable.net.co"><font color="#0000FF" face="Arial" size="3">click here</font></a><font face="Arial" size="2"><font color="#808000">&nbsp;
with subject: </font><font color="#000080"> ORDER</font>
</font>
</p>
<p><font face="Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</font></b> <font face="Arial"> <b> <font size="2"> <font color="#808000">Email
removal: </font><font color="#000080">Simply reply this message or </font>
</font>
<a href="mailto:gt2@cable.net.co"><font size="3" color="#0000FF">click here</font></a> <font size="2"> <font color="#808000">
<x-tab>&nbsp; with subject:
</font><font color="#000080"> REMOVE</font><font color="#808000">
<br><br>
</font>
</font>
<font color="#000080" size="4">University</font> <font size="2">  and/or
</font>
<font color="#000080" size="4">School</font><font size="3"> </font> <font size="2"> purchase
orders WELCOME. (no credit approval required)<br>
Pay by check, c.o.d, or purchase order (net 30 days).
</font>
</b>
</font>
</p>
<p><b><i><font color="#000080" size="3">We Accept all major credit cards!</font></i></b>
</p>
<p><b><a href="#color"><font face="Arial" size="3">New! HP 4500/4550 series color
cartridges in stock!</font></a></b>
</p>
<p align="left"> <font size="2"> <b>
<i><font color="#808000" face="Arial">
Our cartridge prices are as follows: <br>
(please order by item number)</font></i>
</b>
</font>
</p>
<p align="left"> <b><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" color="#000000" size="3">Item&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Hewlett
     Packard<a name="prices"></a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Price</font></b>
</p>
<p align="left"> <tt><font color="#000000"><b><font size="2">1 -- 92274A Toner Cartridge for LaserJet 4L, 4ML, 4P, 4MP
------------------------$47.50<br>
</font>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">
<font size="2">
2 -- C4092A Black Toner Cartridge for LaserJet 1100A, ASE, 3200SE-----------------$45.50<br>
</font>
</span>
<font size="2">
2A - C7115A Toner Cartridge For HP LaserJet 1000, 1200, 3330 ---------------------$55.50<br>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">
2B - C7115X High Capacity Toner Cartridge for HP LaserJet 1000, 1200, 3330 -------$65.50<br>
</span>
3 -- 92295A Toner Cartridge for LaserJet II, IID, III, IIID ----------------------$49.50<br>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">
4 -- 92275A Toner Cartridge for LaserJet IIP, IIP+, IIIP -------------------------$55.50<br>
</span>
5 -- C3903A Toner Cartridge for LaserJet 5P, 5MP, 6P, 6Pse, 6MP, 6Pxi ------------$46.50<br>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">
6 -- C3909A Toner Cartridge for LaserJet 5Si, 5SiMX, 5Si Copier, 8000 ------------$92.50<br>
</span>
7 -- C4096A Toner Cartridge for LaserJet 2100, 2200DSE, 2200DTN ------------------$72.50<br>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">
8 - C4182X UltraPrecise High Capacity Toner Cartridge for LaserJet 8100 Series---$125.50<br>
</span>
9 -- C3906A Toner Cartridge for LaserJet 5L, 5L Xtra, 6Lse, 6L, 6Lxi, 3100se------$42.50 <br>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">
9A - C3906A Toner Cartridge for LaserJet 3100, 3150 ------------------------------$42.50<br>
</span>
10 - C3900A Black Toner Cartridge for HP LaserJet 4MV, 4V ------------------------$89.50<br>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">
11 - C4127A Black Toner Cartridge for LaserJet 4000SE, 4000N, 4000T, 4000TN ------$76.50<br>
</span>
11A- C8061A Black Laser Toner for HP LaserJet 4100, 4100N ------------------------$76.50<br>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">
11B- C8061X High Capacity Toner Cartridge for LJ4100, 4100N ----------------------$85.50<br>
</span>
11C- C4127X High Capacity Black Cartridge for LaserJet 4000SE,4000N,4000T,4000TN
-$84.50<br>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">
12 - 92291A Toner Cartridge for LaserJet IIISi, 4Si, 4SiMX -----------------------$65.50<br>
</span>
13 - 92298A Toner Cartridge for LaserJet 4, 4 Plus, 4M, 4M Plus, 5, 5se, 5M, 5N
--$46.50<br>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">
14 - C4129X High Capacity Black Toner Cartridge for LaserJet 5000N ---------------$97.50<br>
</span>
15 - LASERFAX 500, 700 (FX1) -----------------------------------------------------$49.00<br>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">
16 - LASERFAX 5000, 7000 (FX2) ---------------------------------------------------$54.00<br>
</span>
17 - LASERFAX (FX3) --------------------------------------------------------------$49.00</font></b><font size="2"><br>
<b><span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">
18 - LASERFAX (FX4) --------------------------------------------------------------$49.00</span></b></font></font></tt>
</p>
<p align="left"> <b><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="3">Item&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Hewlett Packard - Color<a name="color"></a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;
Price</font></b>
</p>
<p align="left"> <tt><b><span style="background-color: #C4C4A6"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2" color="#000000">C1 -- C4194a Toner
Cartridge,
Yellow (color lj 4500/4550 series)------------------ $ 89.50<br>
</font></span><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2" color="#000000">C2 -- C4193a Toner
Cartridge, Magenta (color lj 4500/4550 series)-----------------
$ 89.50<br>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">C3 -- C4192a toner cartridge, cyan (color lj 4500/4550 series)-------------------- $
89.50<br>
</span>C4 -- c4191a toner cartridge, black (color lj 4500/4550 series)-------------------
$ 74.50</font></b></tt>
</p>
<p align="left"> <b><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="3">Item&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Lexmark&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Price</font></b>
</p>
<p align="left"> <tt><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" color="#000000"><b><span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">19 - 1380520 High Yield Black Laser Toner for 4019, 4019E, 4028, 4029, 6, 10, 10L -- $109.50<br>
</span>20 - 1382150 High Yield Toner for 3112, 3116, 4039-10+, 4049- Model 12L,16R,
Optra - $109.50<br>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">21 - 69G8256 Laser Cartridge for Optra E,
E+, EP, ES, 4026, 4026 (6A,6B,6D,6E)&nbsp; ---- $ 49.00<br>
</span>22 - 13T0101 High Yield Toner Cartridge for Lexmark Optra E310, E312, E312L -------- $ 89.00<br>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">23 - 1382625 High-Yield Laser Toner Cartridge for Lexmark Optra S (4059) ----------- $129.50<br>
</span>24 - 12A5745 High Yield Laser Toner for Lexmark Optra T610, 612, 614 (4069) -------- $165.00</b></font></tt>
</p>
<p align="left"> <b><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="3">Item&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Epson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Price</font></b>
</p>
<p align="left"><tt><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><b><span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">25
---- S051009 Toner Cartridge for Epson EPL7000, 7500, 8000+ - $115.50<br>
</span>25A --- S051009 LP-3000 PS 7000 -------------------------------- $115.50<br>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">26 ---- AS051011 Imaging Cartridge for
ActionLaser-1000, 1500 -- $ 99.50<br>
</span>26A --- AS051011 EPL-5000, EPL-5100, EPL-5200 ------------------ $ 99.50<br></b></font>
</tt></p>
<p align="left"><b><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="3">Item&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Panasonic&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Price</font></b></p>
<p align="left"><tt><span style="background-color: #C4C4A6"><font color="#000000" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2"><b>27
------Nec series 2 models 90 and 95 ---------------------- $109.50<br></b></font></span></tt></p>
<p align="left"><b><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="3">Item&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Apple&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Price</font></b></p>
<p align="left"><tt><b><font face="Courier New" size="2" color="#000000"><span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">28 ---- 2473G/A Laser Toner for LaserWriter Pro 600, 630, LaserWriter 16/600 PS -
$ 57.50<br>
</span>29 ---- 1960G/A Laser Toner for Apple LaserWriter Select, 300, 310, 360 --------- $
71.50<br>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">30 ---- M0089LL/A Toner Cartridge for Laserwriter 300, 320 (74A) ---------------- $
52.50<br>
</span>31 ---- M6002 Toner Cartridge for Laserwriter IINT, IINTX, IISC, IIF, IIG (95A) - $
47.50<br>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">31A --- M0089LL/A Toner Cartridge for Laserwriter
LS, NT, NTR, SC (75A) --------- $
55.50<br>
</span>32 ---- M4683G/A Laser Toner for LaserWriter 12, 640PS --------------------------
$ 85.50<br></font></b>
</tt></p>
<p align="left"><b><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="3">Item&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Canon&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Price</font></b></p>
<p><tt><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><b><span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">33 --- Fax
CFX-L3500, CFX-4000 CFX-L4500, CFX-L4500IE &amp; IF FX3 ----------- $ 49.50<br>
</span>33A -- L-250, L-260i, L-300 FX3 ------------------------------------------
$ 49.50<br>
<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">33B -- LASER CLASS 2060, 2060P, 4000 FX3 ---------------------------------
$ 49.50<br>
</span>34 --- LASER CLASS 5000, 5500, 7000, 7100, 7500, 6000 FX2 ----------------
$ 49.50<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6"><br>
35 --- FAX 5000 FX2 ------------------------------------------------------
$ 49.50<br>
</span>36 --- LASER CLASS 8500, 9000, 9000L, 9000MS, 9500, 9500 MS, 9500 S FX4 --
$ 49.50<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6"><br>
36A -- Fax L700,720,760,770,775,777,780,785,790, &amp; L3300 FX1
------------- $ 49.50<br>
</span>36B -- L-800, L-900 FX4 --------------------------------------------------
$ 49.50<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6"><br>
37 --- A30R Toner Cartridge for PC-6, 6RE, 7, 11, 12 ---------------------
$ 59.50<br>
</span>38 --- E-40 Toner Cartridge for PC-720, 740, 770, 790,795, 920, 950, 980 -
$ 85.50<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6"><br>
38A -- E-20 Toner Cartridge for PC-310, 325, 330, 330L, 400, 420, 430 ----
$ 85.50</span></b><span style="background-color: #C4C4A6"><br></span></font>
</tt></p>
<p><b><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="3">Item&nbsp;&nbsp;
Xerox&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Price</font></b></p>
<p><tt><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><b><span style="background-color: #C4C4A6">39 ---- 6R900 75A ---- $ 55.50<br>
</span>40 ---- 6R903 98A ---- $ 46.50<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6"><br>
41 ---- 6R902 95A ---- $ 49.50<br>
</span>42 ---- 6R901 91A ---- $ 65.50<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6"><br>
43 ---- 6R908 06A ---- $ 42.50<br>
</span>44 ---- 6R899 74A ---- $ 47.50<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6"><br>
45 ---- 6R928 96A ---- $ 72.50<br>
</span>46 ---- 6R926 27X ---- $ 84.50<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6"><br>
47 ---- 6R906 09A ---- $ 92.50<br>
</span>48 ---- 6R907 4MV ---- $ 89.50<span style="background-color: #C4C4A6"><br>
49 ---- 6R905 03A ---- $ 46.50</span></b></font></tt></p>
<p align="left"><b><i><font color="#808000" size="3" face="Arial">30 Day unlimited warranty included on all
products<br>
GT Toner Supplies guarantees these cartridges to be free from defects in
workmanship and material.</font></i>
</b>
</p>
<p align="left"><b><i><font color="#0000FF" size="3" face="Arial">We look
forward in doing business with you.</font></i></b>
</p>
<p align="left"><b><i><font color="#0000FF" size="3" face="Arial">Customer&nbsp;
Satisfaction guaranteed</font></i></b>
</p>
<p>
<font size="2" face="Arial"><b>I<font color="#000080">f you are ordering by e-mail or
c.o.d. please fill out an order<br>
form with the following information:</font><font color="#808000"><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</i></font><font color="#000080">
</font><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</i><font color="#000080" face="Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</font><font color="#0000FF">
</font><font color="#808000"><i>&nbsp;</i></font><font color="#000080"><br><br>
</font><font color="#808000">phone number<br>
company name<br>
first and last name<br>
street address<br>
city, state zip code&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</font><i><a href="mailto:gt2@cable.net.co"><font color="#0000FF">Order Now</font>
</a> </i><font color="#000080">or
call toll free </font><font size="3" color="#0000FF"> 1-866-237-7397</font> </b></font>
<font size="2" face="Arial"><b><font color="#808000"><br><br>
</font><font color="#000080">If you are ordering by purchase order please fill out an order form<br>
with the following information:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</i><font color="#000080" face="Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</font></b></font></p>
<p><b><font face="Arial" color="#808000" size="2">purchase order number<br>
phone number<br>
company or school name<br>
shipping address and billing address<br>
city, state zip code&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</font></b><font size="2" face="Arial"><b><i><a href="mailto:gt2@cable.net.co"><font color="#0000FF">Order
Now</font></a></i></b></font></p>
<p align="left"><b><font size="2"><i><font color="#800000" size="2" face="Arial">All trade marks and brand names listed above are property
of the respective<br>
holders and used for descriptive purposes only.</font>
</i>
</font>
</b>
</p>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 05:43:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09390
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 05:43:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001004DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:57:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12823168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 11:57:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68FvOZ28884 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:57:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 312FF7E20; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 08:57:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708155719.312FF7E20@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:57:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D297C6A.20599.DE6CCE@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              8, 2002 11:50: 3 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
[about Paul living in my brain]
> It often seems so - or vice versa.
>
> :-)

Well, I am (obviously) not generally aware of the latter. But I am
flattered.

Hey, I just realized that I left you off my list!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 06:02:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09536
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 06:02:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E869EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:10:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12825086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 12:16:13 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68GGDZ00453 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:16:13 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29306 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:16:12 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02
          12:16:12 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02 12:15:46 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D297C6A.20599.DE6CCE@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul   
            8, 2002 11:50: 3 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D29826C.17142.F5E2D0@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:15:40 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708155719.312FF7E20@yellow.rahul.net>

What list?

BrP


>
> Hey, I just realized that I left you off my list!
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 06:03:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09556
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 06:03:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E86A2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:12:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12824191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 12:17:50 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68G7oZ30980 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:07:50 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g68G7nUh020300 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:07:49 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207081207150.15468-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:07:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D299289.10044291@maynor.net>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>It's a good thing neither of you lived in Jackson -- or if you moved
>there, I would hope it would have been long enough before your bday for
>you to realize how embarrassing it would be for your mother to serve
>home-make cake at your bday party.  I don't think I ever saw it happen,
>but I can imagine the awkwardness and horror and strange glances among
>the party guests.

I would have been outraged if I had been served a commercial cake for my
birthday.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 06:13:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09583
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 06:13:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E86BCE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:22:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12825864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 12:28:06 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68GS6Z02376 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:28:06 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03450 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:28:05 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02
          12:28:06 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02 12:27:43 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D299289.10044291@maynor.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D29853C.17341.100DF9A@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:27:41 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207081207150.15468-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

Likewise.  My mother is a very creative person and b'day cakes
were always fun and surprising in ways a commercial bakery could
never have matched.

Speaking of cakes, I was just remembering the secretary who all
but ran the agency where I worked in my early 20s.  She was a
character and always pulling practical jokes on everyone.  When
she retired, we got her a cake and had them write "good luck with
the operation, George" on it.  We told her we got it half price
because George died.  She loved it.  At her funeral a couple years
ago, I had occasion to share this story.  Those who knew her well
understood and laughed, those who didn't know her well looked
horrified.  She would have appreciated that as well.

BrP





> I would have been outraged if I had been served a commercial cake for my
> birthday.
>
> Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 06:17:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09601
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 06:17:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E86C67@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:26:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12826036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 12:31:39 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68GVdf02891 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:31:39 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust61.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.63]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005070408@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 12:31:39 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207081207150.15468-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D29BEBA.8428549C@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:32:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
> I would have been outraged if I had been served a commercial cake for my
> birthday.

Well, not outraged, but mightily disappointed.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 06:23:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09627
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 06:23:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E86DAE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:31:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12825818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 12:37:14 -0400
Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [204.179.120.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68GREZ02260 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:27:14 -0400
Received: from smtp-relay01.mac.com (smtp-relay01-en1 [10.13.10.224]) by
          smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id g68GRA7d005903 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:27:10 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from asmtp01.mac.com (asmtp01-qfe3 [10.13.10.65]) by
          smtp-relay01.mac.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/1.0) with ESMTP id g68GR5Wf027162
          for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:27:05 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [192.168.1.161] ([208.138.31.74]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape
          Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYXV1400.P77 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:27:04 -0700
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B94F2788.E789%peterlevy@mac.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:27:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Peter D. Levy" <peterlevy@MAC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D297AE6.16338.D88065@localhost>

On 8/7/2002 10:43 AM, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

> It's a word I wouldn't use if I thought the audience was stupid
> enough to mistake it for a version of the real N-word - and I would
> feel bad at having to censor myself for the sake of ignorance if I
> made that choice.  Can anyone think of other words that would fit
> this category?  Thespian?  Bitch when you're really talking about a
> female dog?

Hmm, I don't know if "stupid" would have been my description. The word
"niggardly" is hardly in common usage. I don't think lack of exposure to it
proves or equates to stupidity.

And I don't think you should feel bad about censoring yourself. It's a good
communication skill to take your audience into account. I know that rather
than burden myself with the task of having to try to divine whether that
particular word would be 'mis-understood' by a particular audience, I find
it easier just to strike it from my vocabulary.

Something else though, is not the choice itself, to use it knowing the risk
of creating 'mis-understanding', a statement about your view of those who
dislike it?

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 06:27:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09669
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 06:27:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001008C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:41:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12826786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 12:41:59 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Gfxf04630 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:41:59 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-247.panax.com
          [63.163.41.247]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g68Gfwj14856 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:41:58
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D286B0A.6617.204DDD7@localhost> <3D28FAE7.3AB66662@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708124109.00a0cec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:41:42 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29A0B4.8BA238DB@valstar.net>

>Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > Perhaps.  But not the ones I know.  I think of cake-baking as -- well --
> > nevermind.
>
>I do not want to put words into your mouth, but I am getting the
>impression that you think that baking cakes is demeaning or beneath
>one's station.      --alyce

Even worse, perhaps home-baked cakes are considered a Yankee thing.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 06:28:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09676
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 06:28:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001008C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:42:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12826807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 12:42:22 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f242.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.242]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68GgMf04709 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:42:22 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          8 Jul 2002 09:42:17 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          08 Jul 2002 16:42:16 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2002 16:42:17.0290 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[6BABBAA0:01C2269E]
Message-ID:  <F242ePHY76Igu474Eai00009ffe@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:42:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>It *sounds* like they expect the cooked berried to be hot enough to
>cook the uncooked ones at least slightly. This is very interesting.

It does appear that they expect the uncooked ones to get cooked by the hot
syrupy ones, but to my taste they do not. Not enough anyway. Don't get me
wrong -- it was GREAT, it could be better.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 06:31:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09703
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 06:31:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00100918@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:46:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12827152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 12:46:00 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Gk0t05635 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:46:00 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-247.panax.com
          [63.163.41.247]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g68Gjxj15996 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:45:59
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020708124440.675B47CC7@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D299289.10044291@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708124509.00a0fec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:45:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29A8CD.B1C32BD9@valstar.net>

>Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> > but I can imagine the awkwardness and horror and strange glances among
> > the party guests.
>
>Oh, yes. I can just imagine little children making an assessment of the
>cake, noting that it did not have the Jitney Jungle provenance stamp on
>it, and refusing to eat it. And then going home to tell their mothers
>how embarrassing it was, resulting in the whole town's knowing how tacky
>the hostess was ere long.     --alyce'

Yes, alyce.  Exactly.  This is part of the training of little Southern
children.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 06:37:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09719
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 06:37:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E87132@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:45:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12827540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 12:51:24 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68GpOt06520 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:51:24 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-247.panax.com
          [63.163.41.247]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g68GpMj17019 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:51:22
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D296278.4579.55EB21@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708124612.00a01220@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:51:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29AB03.D1800C0A@valstar.net>

>with garbage piled higher than my head, with mousies and
>rats running about in full view. I know that rodents always are present,
>but usually not quite so visible.      --alyce

I was rather surprised to learn that there are rats on most of the small,
fir-covered, scenic islands off the coast of Maine.  Last Wednesday our
ferry boat captain took us on a detour from the usual route back to Port
Clyde from Monhegan Island.  He announced that it was 15 degrees warmer on
the mainland and that a 20 minute detour out on the cool ocean might be a
good idea.  Then he said "If anyone feels that they cannot afford 20
minutes out of their busy schedule, please come to the wheel house and tell
me."  I thought he was going to say "then you ought not be in Maine."

In any case, he took us out to a very small island that has been developed
as a puffin rookery.  We circled the island and looked for puffin on the
rocks or in the water.  I had no idea that they were the size of a robin
rather than the size of a penguin.  They are hard to see and, in fact, we
didn't see any.

It was then that he told us that rats sometimes eat the young out of the
nest and that their were rats on most of the small islands.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 06:52:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09770
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 06:52:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8756A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:01:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12829016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 13:06:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68H6Rt08971 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:06:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 745687C5D; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 10:06:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708170624.745687C5D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:06:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29826C.17142.F5E2D0@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              8, 2002 12:15:40 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> What list?

List of lusers who haven't BatFested with me.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 06:55:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09787
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 06:55:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00100B43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:09:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12829199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 13:09:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68H98t09325 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:09:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D20007C87; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 10:09:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708170903.D20007C87@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:09:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708124509.00a0fec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 8, 2002 12:45:43 pm"

bonniev said:
> >Natalie Maynor wrote:
> >
> > > but I can imagine the awkwardness and horror and strange glances among
> > > the party guests.
> >
> >Oh, yes. I can just imagine little children making an assessment of the
> >cake, noting that it did not have the Jitney Jungle provenance stamp on
> >it, and refusing to eat it. And then going home to tell their mothers
> >how embarrassing it was, resulting in the whole town's knowing how tacky
> >the hostess was ere long.     --alyce'
>
> Yes, alyce.  Exactly.  This is part of the training of little Southern
> children.

Or snobs. It makes me understand Natalie's RRB better.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 06:59:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09810
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 06:59:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E87773@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:08:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12829632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 13:13:39 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68HDdt10224 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:13:39 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc55 ([204.127.198.44]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020708171333.KNTZ903.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:13:33 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc55; Mon, 08 Jul 2002 17:13:31 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020708171333.KNTZ903.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:13:31 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sling Blade
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>>I know I'm a little late in answering this but I was
>>away for the weekend.

>You're allowed.

Maybe so but I should have set no mail, I have 815
messages. There's no way I'm going to get through all of
them.

>> This happens to be one of my favorite movies. What drew
>> me in was Carl's voice. His grunting and the way he
>> explained things captivated me.

>Ah. I found it repulsive.

I can understand this. If the voice grates on you it can
be hard to get into.

> As I consider this post I realize it's not a very good
> one. It doesn't really express how I feel about the movie
> but it's all that I can put into words.

>I think I posted the query some time in the first half
>hour, when I was Not Enthused. Then I got pulled in, and
>then I hated the ending.

Interesting. I can't imagine it ending any other way. How
would you have liked it to end?

>One thing I will say--Billy Bob Thornton was amazing.
>It's hard to imagine him as the same guy that was in
that >bad bank robber movie with Bruce Willis.

Prior to Sling Blade I had never heard of him. When I saw
him afterwards, thin and with facial hair, I couldn't get
over it.

The movie was on network television a week or so ago and
I'd forgotten just how much he'd transformed his body for
the role.

I think the guy is a total freak but he does some
incredible things!

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 06:59:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09817
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 06:59:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8777E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:08:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12829661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 13:13:48 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68HDlt10270 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:13:47 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19680 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:12:31 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02
          13:12:31 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02 13:12:28 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D29826C.17142.F5E2D0@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul   
            8, 2002 12:15:40 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D298FB6.19354.129CD4A@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:12:23 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708170624.745687C5D@yellow.rahul.net>

ah, I mass deleted all of the BatFest subject line messages
because I figured they didn't apply to me.  So I was chopped liver
and I didn't even know it.

BrP


>
> List of lusers who haven't BatFested with me.:)
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 07:04:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09838
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 07:04:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E87945@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:13:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12830398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 13:18:40 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68HIet11340 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:18:40 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g68HIdb17466
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:18:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D29826C.17142.F5E2D0@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul 8,
            2002 12:15:40 pm" <3D298FB6.19354.129CD4A@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D29CB0B.5DCB52AE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:25:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> ah, I mass deleted all of the BatFest subject line messages
> because I figured they didn't apply to me.  So I was chopped liver
> and I didn't even know it.

Oh, no!  You have to look at the shirt that was designed!

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=batfest

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 07:05:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09845
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 07:05:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8799D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:14:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12830468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 13:19:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68HJWt11458 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:19:35 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 579077D4C; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 10:19:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708171930.579077D4C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:19:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sling Blade
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708171333.KNTZ903.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> from Lisa
              Alfieri at "Jul 8, 2002  5:13:31 pm"

Lisa Alfieri said:
> >I think I posted the query some time in the first half
> >hour, when I was Not Enthused. Then I got pulled in, and
> >then I hated the ending.
>
> Interesting. I can't imagine it ending any other way. How
> would you have liked it to end?

Happily Ever After.

Karen
Eternal Optimist

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 07:09:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09886
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 07:09:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E87AC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:18:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12830741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 13:23:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68HNWt11992 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:23:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2488B80C3; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 10:23:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708172322.2488B80C3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:23:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D298FB6.19354.129CD4A@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              8, 2002  1:12:23 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> ah, I mass deleted all of the BatFest subject line messages
> because I figured they didn't apply to me.  So I was chopped liver
> and I didn't even know it.

Ah, well.

Since people didn't show up here, for one reason or another, I
insisted that they phone me (512-977-8817). A surprising number of
people acceded to my demand. And I do truly feel like I fested.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 07:12:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09902
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 07:12:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00100D0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:26:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12830908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 13:26:52 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68HQqt12439 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:26:52 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24753 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:26:51 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02
          13:26:51 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02 13:26:50 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D299311.6485.136EAEC@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:26:42 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Bridge 13 - a request
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D28FC5C.ADBB3435@maynor.net>

  Bridge 13 is a program in Portland, OR which trains lgbt youth as
facilitators for the training of those who work with youth (teachers,
police, social services people, etc.) in more awareness of lgbt
issues and specific strategies for advocacy.  I tell you about this
because it is part of my daughter Tina's job to run this program and
the funding is in serious danger of being eliminated.  They could
use all kinds of support from encouraging words to creative funding
ideas to actual dollars.

  It is a program I believe in very much.  When I was there I sat in
on a presentation they did (this is High School age kids) and was
very impressed.  Without putting any pressure on any of you to
respond at all or in any particular way, I would be delighted to tell
you more backchannel and to provide the mailing address if any of
you are interested in how you could help.

  If you think I'm wrong for bringing this up here, I'd appreciate
knowing that backchannel as well.  In other words, I hope that no
more list bandwidth will be devoted to this topic - pro or con.

 Thanks.

 BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 07:17:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09926
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 07:17:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E87CED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:26:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12830651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 13:31:40 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68HLet11773 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:21:40 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g68HLdUh021034 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:21:39 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207081321220.12732-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:21:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708124109.00a0cec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, bonniev wrote:

>Even worse, perhaps home-baked cakes are considered a Yankee thing.

Not in southeast Texas.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 07:18:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09933
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 07:18:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00100D80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:32:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12830707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 13:32:48 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68HMmt11905 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:22:48 -0400
Received: from Freedom (tamqfl1-ar8-4-64-006-232.tamqfl1.dsl-verizon.net
          [4.64.6.232]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g68HMjZ17103 for <WORDS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:22:45
          -0400
Content-Type: text/plain;
X-Priority: 3
X-Library: Indy 8.0.25
Message-ID:  <200207081722.g68HMjZ17103@pasta.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:17:35 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: cranfordlines.claimscenter@VERIZON.NET
Subject:      What happened with your forms processing idea?
Comments: To: WORDS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

ddWe are struggling with the decisions related to wether or not to
 go ahead with our plans to purchase an OCR and forms
 scanning solution.
 An outside consultant mentioned that he had heard that not to
 long ago you folks were considering implementing OCR
 technology to reduce data entry costs and improve efficiency.

 If you could let us know if you did move foreward with any
 plans in that direction it would be of great help to us. May I ask
 what initialy prompted you to consider OCR? Did you decide it
 could help your compamy? What software did you go with?
 Would you recomend we take a look at it?

    At present we are still planning to continue our research until
 we decide which OCR system best suits our needs, then
 implement it quickly.
 If you are just starting to consider this
 technology feel free to stay in touch. We will let you know what
 we decide on and if it works for us.


    If you cannot advise on this please foreward this E-mail to the
 proper individual in your company who might be able to help with
 this.

                          Thanks,

                                           Steve

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 07:32:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09945
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 07:32:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E88098@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:41:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12832224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 13:46:26 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68HkPg15687 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:46:26 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01354 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:46:25 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02
          13:46:25 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02 13:46:00 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D299792.17974.148851F@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:45:55 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: What happened with your forms processing idea?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <200207081722.g68HMjZ17103@pasta.cc.uga.edu>

oh no  Did I mass delete the messages on how we are considering
implementing OCR at words-l ?  I'd better start reading my mail
more carefully.


BrP




>  An outside consultant mentioned that he had heard that not to
>  long ago you folks were considering implementing OCR
>  technology to reduce data entry costs and improve efficiency.

>     If you cannot advise on this please foreward this E-mail to the
>  proper individual in your company who might be able to help with
>  this.
>
>                           Thanks,
>
>                                            Steve

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 07:32:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09952
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 07:32:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E880A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:41:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12832250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 13:47:00 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Hl0g15807 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:47:00 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020708174655.YCYV29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:46:55 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020707093625.022e3c40@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708103018.0212d1f0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:44:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020707172927.30BE37C64@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen Kay writes,

>What did you google on? I googled and got no identifiable results.

My browser history got flushed soon thereafter, so I'm not sure.  But it
probably went something like this:

lance-armstrong chiropractor japanese
lance-armstrong chiropractor tendinitis
jeff-spencer japanese
jeff-spencer tendinitis
jeff-spencer reiki
jeff-spencer shiatsu
jeff-spencer chiropractor

If you click on the first hit for the last one, then go up a level, you see
the "Stretching" headline for another article.  That one was interesting
enough that I browsed through the rest of the articles, and found Kinesio
Taping.

After seeing the found page, obviously "jeff-spencer japan" would have been
a better search -- but it didn't occur to me at the time.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 07:54:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10067
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 07:54:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001010EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:08:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12834548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 14:08:57 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68I8vg20481 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:08:57 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYX003EYZQW11@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 08 Jul 2002 13:08:56 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <B94F2788.E789%peterlevy@mac.com>
Message-ID:  <3D29D4E0.5070300@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:07:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter D. Levy wrote:


>
> Hmm, I don't know if "stupid" would have been my description. The word
> "niggardly" is hardly in common usage. I don't think lack of exposure to it
> proves or equates to stupidity.


Actually, vocabulary size is a major part intelligence.


> And I don't think you should feel bad about censoring yourself. It's a good
> communication skill to take your audience into account. I know that rather
> than burden myself with the task of having to try to divine whether that
> particular word would be 'mis-understood' by a particular audience, I find
> it easier just to strike it from my vocabulary.


How interesting.  I've never heard of anybody trying to
decrease their vocabulary.


> Something else though, is not the choice itself, to use it knowing the risk
> of creating 'mis-understanding', a statement about your view of those who
> dislike it?


I think they just figure we're all smart enough to know what
the word means.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 07:55:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10077
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 07:55:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001010FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:09:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12833767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 14:09:52 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Hxpg18850 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:59:52 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g68HxpUh005592 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:59:51 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207081353450.17618-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:59:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The Dennis the Menace rerun today in the KNS shows Dennis and his
neighbors eating ice cream out of an ice cream freezer. Dennis is saying,
"This homemade ice cream tastes just like the real thing."

I wonder if Natalie has ever eaten homemade ice cream? If so, did she
admit it in public?

I think the first commercial ice cream I ate was in Beaumont - we moved
there when I was 10 yoa. I  have wonderful memories of wonderful homemade
ice cream with family earlier - my favorite was peach, made, of course,
with tree-ripened peaches fresh-picked for the occasion. We also made
strawberry, peppermint, vanilla, etc. I don't recall our trying
chocolate. We also had fresh cream, fresh eggs, etc.

I also remember that my mother ALWAYS got a headache when she ate ice
cream, because she ALWAYS ate it much too fast.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 07:57:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10081
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 07:57:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8864D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:06:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12834827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 14:11:42 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68IBgg21009 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:11:42 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g68IBg7Y419785 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002
          14:11:42 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000601c226aa$ea331fb0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:11:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708155719.312FF7E20@yellow.rahul.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Karen Kay
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 11:57 AM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Pizza
>
>
> Paul R. Barfoot said:
> [about Paul living in my brain]
> > It often seems so - or vice versa.
> >
> > :-)
>
> Well, I am (obviously) not generally aware of the latter. But I am
> flattered.
>
> Hey, I just realized that I left you off my list!
>
> Karen
>

Boo!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 08:04:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10116
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 08:04:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001011B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:18:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12835619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 14:18:32 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68IIVg22755 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:18:31 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g68IMZo16467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:22:35
          +0200
References: <20020708130145.3DC2F8044@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020708202235.A16457@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:22:35 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Why I like Austin
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708130145.3DC2F8044@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 06:01:45AM -0700

On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 06:01:45AM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
= One reason: I love the fact that every newscast includes Tour de
= France updates, including descriptions of the course.
=
= Karen

Hell, you can get that here too.

This weeks tv guide has the course of the day and an article
about Armstrong.  Saturday's paper had an article too.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 08:14:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10129
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 08:14:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E888F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:23:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12836565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 14:28:27 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68ISQg25022 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:28:26 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g68IWYM16484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:32:34
          +0200
References: <3D29AE71.C8A96B96@akad.ee>
            <20020708154328.14E877F91@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020708203234.B16457@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:32:34 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708154328.14E877F91@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 08:43:27AM -0700

=
= I don't drink regular cola, and this is generic, not Coca Cola, so
= probably no one else will drink it.
=
= Karen

If I were there, I'd drink it.  I am pretty used to generic, and
it makes the Coke taste funny now too.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 08:24:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10172
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 08:24:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E889E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:32:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12837152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 14:38:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68IcGg26317 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:38:19 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BBD6081BD; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 11:38:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708183813.BBD6081BD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:38:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29D4E0.5070300@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 8,
              2002  1: 7:28 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> I think they just figure we're all smart enough to know what
> the word means.

You know, I really did go through the scenario Paul described, and
concluded that Words-L was a safe place to use this word.

Btw, Peter, I recreated to my (personal) satisfaction the ginger drink
I was talking about. I have a ginger plant right outside my front
door, and I'm sure I'll be raiding it in the future.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 08:25:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10179
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 08:25:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E88A0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:33:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12837222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 14:39:16 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g68IdGg26458 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:39:16
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-82-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.82.119]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g68IdF2131340 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002
          14:39:15 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEKEFCAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:38:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207081353450.17618-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

I bought an ice cream maker a couple of years ago. I have tried using Bakers
Sugar and I use recipes where you cook the liquid before freezing it...and
it's still results in a very grainy ice cream. I haven't figured out how to
fix that. I have a Cuisinart ice cream maker. Do any of you have better
results?

Sandra

> I wonder if Natalie has ever eaten homemade ice cream? If so, did she
> admit it in public?
>
> I think the first commercial ice cream I ate was in Beaumont - we moved
> there when I was 10 yoa. I  have wonderful memories of wonderful homemade
> ice cream with family earlier - my favorite was peach, made, of course,
> with tree-ripened peaches fresh-picked for the occasion. We also made
> strawberry, peppermint, vanilla, etc. I don't recall our trying
> chocolate. We also had fresh cream, fresh eggs, etc.
>
> Bethany
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 08:25:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10186
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 08:25:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E88A18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:34:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12837250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 14:39:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Idcg26498 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:39:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E8BBE81F7; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 11:39:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708183934.E8BBE81F7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:39:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000601c226aa$ea331fb0$48305b80@EAGLE72> from "Alec D. Plotkin"
              at "Jul 8, 2002  2:11:43 pm"

Alec D. Plotkin said:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: English Language Discussion Group
> > [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Karen Kay
> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 11:57 AM
> > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Pizza
> >
> >
> > Paul R. Barfoot said:
> > [about Paul living in my brain]
> > > It often seems so - or vice versa.
> > >
> > > :-)
> >
> > Well, I am (obviously) not generally aware of the latter. But I am
> > flattered.
> >
> > Hey, I just realized that I left you off my list!
> >
> > Karen
> >
>
> Boo!

Hey, I just realized that I left you off my list!

Sorry, Alec. I'll just add you to the list of people who hate me...

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 08:26:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10190
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 08:26:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001013D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:40:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12837324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 14:40:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68IeTg26633 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:40:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3DBD981E9; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 11:40:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708184024.3DBD981E9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:40:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Why I like Austin
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708202235.A16457@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul 8,
              2002  8:22:35 pm"

steph said:
> On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 06:01:45AM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> = One reason: I love the fact that every newscast includes Tour de
> = France updates, including descriptions of the course.
> =
> = Karen
>
> Hell, you can get that here too.

But not in most US cities.

> This weeks tv guide has the course of the day and an article
> about Armstrong.  Saturday's paper had an article too.

He seems like a nice guy.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 08:27:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10197
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 08:27:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E88A4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:35:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12837345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 14:41:06 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Iexg26668 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:41:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EA4F17CA4; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 11:40:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708184056.EA4F17CA4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:40:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708203234.B16457@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul 8,
              2002  8:32:34 pm"

steph said:
> = I don't drink regular cola, and this is generic, not Coca Cola, so
> = probably no one else will drink it.
> =
> = Karen
>
> If I were there, I'd drink it.  I am pretty used to generic, and
> it makes the Coke taste funny now too.

Well, I'd love to have you over.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 08:31:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10215
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 08:31:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E88AF1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:40:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12837724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 14:45:48 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f124.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.124]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Ijmg27429 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:45:48 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          8 Jul 2002 11:45:42 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 08
          Jul 2002 18:45:42 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2002 18:45:42.0799 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A9B2B9F0:01C226AF]
Message-ID:  <F1247bEtfjKNE050CUv0000c11d@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:45:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Even worse, perhaps home-baked cakes are considered a Yankee thing.

It's amusing reading the vehemence of the discussion regarding cakes and
whether it is a good or bad thing to have a home-made cake on one's
birthday. When I was growing up, I used to wish for a cake made by El Fenix
Bakery here in town, because they were so much better than Duncan Hines
cakes made at home. As for my mother making a cake from scratch, as in
actually measuring out things like flour and sugar, well, that was just not
a done thing. That was something for women who didn't have to work for a
living. I don't think she ever made a cake in her life, and I know that I
have never made one that wasn't a Duncan Hines.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 08:33:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10223
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 08:33:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00101481@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:47:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12837804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 14:47:24 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68IlOg27614 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:47:24 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g68IlNb02254
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:47:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F1247bEtfjKNE050CUv0000c11d@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D29DFD7.240A230F@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:54:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Anne Toal wrote:
>
> >Even worse, perhaps home-baked cakes are considered a Yankee thing.
>
> It's amusing reading the vehemence of the discussion regarding cakes and
> whether it is a good or bad thing to have a home-made cake on one's
> birthday. When I was growing up, I used to wish for a cake made by El Fenix
> Bakery here in town, because they were so much better than Duncan Hines
> cakes made at home. As for my mother making a cake from scratch, as in
> actually measuring out things like flour and sugar, well, that was just not
> a done thing. That was something for women who didn't have to work for a
> living. I don't think she ever made a cake in her life, and I know that I
> have never made one that wasn't a Duncan Hines.

Carrot cake and German chocolate from scratch are my favorites,
otherwise, we don't do cakes much.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 08:36:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10236
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 08:36:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E88B61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:44:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12837938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 14:50:04 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f53.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.53]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Io4g27926 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:50:04 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          8 Jul 2002 11:49:58 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 08
          Jul 2002 18:49:58 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2002 18:49:58.0778 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[424605A0:01C226B0]
Message-ID:  <F5343Ndlvyw8FQ9bdKu00006579@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:49:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>fix that. I have a Cuisinart ice cream maker. Do any of you have better
>results?

Yeah, I go to the Marble Slab ice cream parlor. They have home-made ice
cream and it never tastes gritty :-)

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 08:50:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10278
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 08:50:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E88D5E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:58:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12839422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 15:04:23 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68J4Mg31081 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:04:22 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-57.panax.com
          [65.114.190.57]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g68J4Lj06356 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:04:21
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D297AE6.16338.D88065@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708145505.00b55e58@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:04:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B94F2788.E789%peterlevy@mac.com>

At 11:27 AM 7/8/2002 -0500, peter levy wrote:

>And I don't think you should feel bad about censoring yourself. It's a good
>communication skill to take your audience into account.

This reads suspiciously like a euphemism for "dumbing down."  I don't
approve of using obscure or long words to impress or befuddle but I
wouldn't include "niggardly" in those categories.  Among other places, it
is used in Tolkien.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 08:53:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10288
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 08:53:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E88DAE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:01:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12838587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 15:07:02 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Iv2g29362 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:57:02 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g68Iv1Uh031556 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:57:01 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207081456260.17618-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:57:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F5343Ndlvyw8FQ9bdKu00006579@hotmail.com>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Anne Toal wrote:

>Yeah, I go to the Marble Slab ice cream parlor. They have home-made ice
>cream and it never tastes gritty :-)

So there is <commercial home-made ice cream>?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 09:01:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10313
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 09:01:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E88EE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:10:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12839603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 15:16:00 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f64.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.64]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68J5xg31443 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:05:59 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          8 Jul 2002 12:05:54 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 08
          Jul 2002 19:05:54 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2002 19:05:54.0277 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[7BCB9950:01C226B2]
Message-ID:  <F64S910YJkUaKFiEg9C00007709@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:05:54 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Anne:

>Yeah, I go to the Marble Slab ice cream parlor. They have home-made ice
>cream and it never tastes gritty :-)

There was a time when all you seemed to post was accounts of
days spent making the perfect pot-roast or whatever. Do you
still do that or have you switched to take-out?

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 09:03:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10320
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 09:03:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001017CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:17:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12840590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 15:17:20 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68JHKg01233 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:17:20 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id WAA13195 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:17:19
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA13112 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon,
          8 Jul 2002 22:17:17 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708154328.14E877F91@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D29E534.A2075766@akad.ee>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:17:08 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I don't drink regular cola, and this is generic,

By "this" you mean Sam's Choice cola you bought, right?

Anyway, one should never drink anything besides home-made coke .

And not to give it to the guests, saying, otherways I'd pour it down the
sink... For the latter is what one actually wants to do with it.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 09:04:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10324
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 09:04:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E88F46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:13:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12839811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 15:18:27 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f62.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68J8Qg31947 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:08:26 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          8 Jul 2002 12:08:21 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 08
          Jul 2002 19:08:21 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2002 19:08:21.0451 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[D38491B0:01C226B2]
Message-ID:  <F62bYeqDA37FOGOwaDf00006ed5@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:08:21 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Anne Toal wrote:

> >Even worse, perhaps home-baked cakes are considered a Yankee thing.
>
>It's amusing reading the vehemence of the discussion regarding cakes and
>whether it is a good or bad thing to have a home-made cake on one's

I'm calling it a tie. Both sides appear equally vehement.

Please add to the list of things you can do if you know how to read:

Bake cakes (extends to all cooking) - Natalie
Hang wallpaper - bonniev
File income tax returns/perform house inspections - Natalie

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 09:09:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10342
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 09:09:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010185F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:23:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12840900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 15:23:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68JNJg02004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:23:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3080D7C8A; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 12:23:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708192313.3080D7C8A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:23:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29E534.A2075766@akad.ee> from Kristin Sarv at "Jul 8,
              2002 10:17: 8 pm"

Kristin Sarv said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I don't drink regular cola, and this is generic,
>
> By "this" you mean Sam's Choice cola you bought, right?

Yes.

> Anyway, one should never drink anything besides home-made coke .

I like DietRite.

> And not to give it to the guests, saying, otherways I'd pour it down the
> sink... For the latter is what one actually wants to do with it.

LOL!:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 09:10:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10353
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 09:10:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00101872@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:24:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12840979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 15:24:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68JO8g02168 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:24:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1B79C7F6A; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 12:24:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708192406.1B79C7F6A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:24:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F62bYeqDA37FOGOwaDf00006ed5@hotmail.com> from Rashmi Murthy at
              "Jul 8, 2002  7: 8:21 pm"

Rashmi Murthy said:
> Please add to the list of things you can do if you know how to read:
>
> Bake cakes (extends to all cooking) - Natalie
> Hang wallpaper - bonniev, Karen
> File income tax returns/perform house inspections - Natalie

Hang ceiling fans - Karen

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 09:14:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10373
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 09:13:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E89055@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:21:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12841218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 15:27:11 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68JRBg02609 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:27:11 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09223 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:27:04 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02
          15:27:04 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 8 Jul 02 15:26:42 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <F62bYeqDA37FOGOwaDf00006ed5@hotmail.com> from Rashmi Murthy at    
            "Jul 8, 2002  7: 8:21 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D29AF29.6070.1A4ABA4@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:26:34 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708192406.1B79C7F6A@yellow.rahul.net>

Trace 30 generations of your ancestors - Paul

> Rashmi Murthy said:
> > Please add to the list of things you can do if you know how to read:
> >
> > Bake cakes (extends to all cooking) - Natalie
> > Hang wallpaper - bonniev, Karen
> > File income tax returns/perform house inspections - Natalie
>
> Hang ceiling fans - Karen
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 09:14:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10378
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 09:14:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8906D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:22:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12841272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 15:27:56 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68JRtg02698 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:27:55 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id WAA14488 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:27:54
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA14404 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon,
          8 Jul 2002 22:27:53 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D29E7B0.687DF6DE@akad.ee>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:27:45 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      shutting it down...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Strange,  it seems nice to say 'shut down' to the computer, and I'd
never be so rude that to say, "shut up" to it.

G'nite

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 09:19:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10440
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 09:19:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00101958@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:33:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12841614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 15:33:08 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f101.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68JX7g03491 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:33:08 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          8 Jul 2002 12:33:02 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 08
          Jul 2002 19:33:02 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2002 19:33:02.0570 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[465564A0:01C226B6]
Message-ID:  <F101BewBhTJnDVpNmqT0000c294@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:33:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>days spent making the perfect pot-roast or whatever. Do you
>still do that or have you switched to take-out?

Actually we cook almost everything we eat these days.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 09:33:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10535
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 09:33:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8935D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:41:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12842692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 15:47:05 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Jl5g05573 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:47:05 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust26.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.28]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005074599@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 15:46:51 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708154328.14E877F91@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D29E534.A2075766@akad.ee>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D29EC71.ED85508C@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:48:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Kristin Sarv wrote:
> >
> And not to give it to the guests, saying, otherways I'd pour it down the
> sink... For the latter is what one actually wants to do with it.

Ah, Kristin. You always have me laughing.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 09:40:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10569
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 09:40:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E89498@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:48:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12843351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 15:54:16 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68JsGg06931 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:54:16 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust26.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.28]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003766659@mx0.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 15:54:15 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D29EE2D.D9C625CD@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:55:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      The church of SpongeBob Squarepants
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Well, it had to happen. MP3 hymns, creed, sacraments, scripture. Those
who have not met Bob and his friends can see them here.

http://www.churchoofspongebob.org

The Conversion Sacrament

The scriptures are very clear on the procedure for entry into the
Church. In Genesis c.1 v.10 we read, "(Captain:) If nautical nonsense be
something you wish," followed by v.12 , "Then drop on the deck and flop
like a fish." If you
want to experience the simplicity and joy that is found only in The
Church, then you need to perform this sacrament by simply throwing
yourself on the ground,
flipping around like a fish out of water, and then getting up. You only
have to do it for a second - don't hurt yourself.
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 09:40:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10576
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 09:40:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8949B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:48:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12843359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 15:54:23 -0400
Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68JsNg06940 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:54:23 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.161] ([208.138.31.74]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with
          ESMTP id <20020708185240.RTBB13091.mail@[208.138.31.74]> for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:52:40 -0400
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B94F5814.E7C9%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:54:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29D4E0.5070300@swbell.net>

On 8/7/2002 1:07 PM, Rita Chapman wrote:

>> Hmm, I don't know if "stupid" would have been my description. The word
>> "niggardly" is hardly in common usage. I don't think lack of exposure to it
>> proves or equates to stupidity.
>
>
> Actually, vocabulary size is a major part intelligence.

I don't see your point. What inference about a person's vocabulary size are
you prepared to draw from their not having heard the word "niggardly"?

>
>
>> And I don't think you should feel bad about censoring yourself. It's a good
>> communication skill to take your audience into account. I know that rather
>> than burden myself with the task of having to try to divine whether that
>> particular word would be 'mis-understood' by a particular audience, I find
>> it easier just to strike it from my vocabulary.
>
>
> How interesting.  I've never heard of anybody trying to
> decrease their vocabulary.

I suspect you have if you think hard enough about it. There are words that
were formerly <acceptable> and are no longer, or are <acceptable> in a
narrow setting but not to those outside that setting. We adapt our usage of
words to meet the sensitivities of those whose opinion matters to us.
Sometimes that involves proscribing a word.
>
>
>> Something else though, is not the choice itself, to use it knowing the risk
>> of creating 'mis-understanding', a statement about your view of those who
>> dislike it?
>
>
> I think they just figure we're all smart enough to know what
> the word means.

I'm sure you're right.

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 09:47:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10604
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 09:47:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00101C6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:01:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12844124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:01:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68K1Vg08386 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:01:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A324281BD; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 12:42:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708194248.A324281BD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:42:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708103018.0212d1f0@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Jul 8, 2002 10:44: 1 am"

Peter Kaminski said:
> Karen Kay writes,
> >What did you google on? I googled and got no identifiable results.
>
> My browser history got flushed soon thereafter, so I'm not sure.  But it
> probably went something like this:
>
> lance-armstrong chiropractor japanese

I tried this.

> lance-armstrong chiropractor tendinitis

And this.

> jeff-spencer japanese

I didn't think he'd be well known enough.

> After seeing the found page, obviously "jeff-spencer japan" would have been
> a better search -- but it didn't occur to me at the time.

Yup. I just wondered why you got excellent results and I didn't.
That's how we learn!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 09:55:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10695
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 09:55:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8971B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:03:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12844754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:09:12 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68K9Cg09639 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:09:12 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYY007OA5BBTG@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 08 Jul 2002 15:09:12 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <B94F5814.E7C9%peterlevy@email.com>
Message-ID:  <3D29F110.1070701@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:07:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Levy wrote:

> On 8/7/2002 1:07 PM, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>>Hmm, I don't know if "stupid" would have been my description. The word
>>>"niggardly" is hardly in common usage. I don't think lack of exposure to it
>>>proves or equates to stupidity.
>>>
>>
>>Actually, vocabulary size is a major part intelligence.
>>
>
> I don't see your point. What inference about a person's vocabulary size are
> you prepared to draw from their not having heard the word "niggardly"?


Nothing on that one word, but I'd begin to wonder.  It's a
fairly common word.


>>
>>>And I don't think you should feel bad about censoring yourself. It's a good
>>>communication skill to take your audience into account. I know that rather
>>>than burden myself with the task of having to try to divine whether that
>>>particular word would be 'mis-understood' by a particular audience, I find
>>>it easier just to strike it from my vocabulary.
>>>
>>
>>How interesting.  I've never heard of anybody trying to
>>decrease their vocabulary.
>>
>
> I suspect you have if you think hard enough about it. There are words that
> were formerly <acceptable> and are no longer, or are <acceptable> in a
> narrow setting but not to those outside that setting. We adapt our usage of
> words to meet the sensitivities of those whose opinion matters to us.
> Sometimes that involves proscribing a word.


No.  I might not use certain words very often, but they are
still a part of my vocabulary.  For example, I have a hard
time thinking of a context in which I'd use the word
"Flivver," but I still know what it means and could if I
wanted to.  I haven't "eliminated it from my vocabulary."


>>
>>>Something else though, is not the choice itself, to use it knowing the risk
>>>of creating 'mis-understanding', a statement about your view of those who
>>>dislike it?
>>>
>>
>>I think they just figure we're all smart enough to know what
>>the word means.
>>
>
> I'm sure you're right.


Of course I am.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:00:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10718
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:00:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E897E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:08:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12845133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:14:03 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68KE2g10408 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:14:02 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g68KIAU16733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:18:10
          +0200
References: <F62bYeqDA37FOGOwaDf00006ed5@hotmail.com>
            <20020708192406.1B79C7F6A@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020708221810.A16730@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:18:10 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708192406.1B79C7F6A@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 12:24:06PM -0700

On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 12:24:06PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
= Rashmi Murthy said:
= > Please add to the list of things you can do if you know how to read:
= >
= > Bake cakes (extends to all cooking) - Natalie
= > Hang wallpaper - bonniev, Karen
= > File income tax returns/perform house inspections - Natalie
=
= Hang ceiling fans - Karen
=

Configure a program to provision a telephone switch - steph

(what I'm busy with)

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:00:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10727
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:00:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E897F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:08:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12845154 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:14:21 -0400
Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68KELg10459 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:14:21 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.161] ([208.138.31.74]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with
          ESMTP id <20020708191238.SCAO13091.mail@[208.138.31.74]> for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:12:38 -0400
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B94F5CC2.E7D2%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:14:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29F110.1070701@swbell.net>

On 8/7/2002 3:07 PM, Rita Chapman wrote:

>>>
>>>> And I don't think you should feel bad about censoring yourself. It's a good
>>>> communication skill to take your audience into account. I know that rather
>>>> than burden myself with the task of having to try to divine whether that
>>>> particular word would be 'mis-understood' by a particular audience, I find
>>>> it easier just to strike it from my vocabulary.
>>>>
>>>
>>> How interesting.  I've never heard of anybody trying to
>>> decrease their vocabulary.
>>>
>>
>> I suspect you have if you think hard enough about it. There are words that
>> were formerly <acceptable> and are no longer, or are <acceptable> in a
>> narrow setting but not to those outside that setting. We adapt our usage of
>> words to meet the sensitivities of those whose opinion matters to us.
>> Sometimes that involves proscribing a word.
>
>
> No.  I might not use certain words very often, but they are
> still a part of my vocabulary.  For example, I have a hard
> time thinking of a context in which I'd use the word
> "Flivver," but I still know what it means and could if I
> wanted to.  I haven't "eliminated it from my vocabulary."

"Struck", not "eliminated". And you are right here again. I am guilty of
imprecision. I should have said I strike it from usage.

Good thing we're not in court.

--
Cheers,
Peter

PS What's a Flivver?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:01:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10731
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:01:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00101DCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:15:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12845270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:15:52 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f178.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.178]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68KFqg10654 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:15:52 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          8 Jul 2002 13:15:46 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          08 Jul 2002 20:15:46 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2002 20:15:46.0842 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[3EC23FA0:01C226BC]
Message-ID:  <F178X14ctr582zyFWMZ0000a4d2@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:15:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>I have to think about this. I'm going to boil a chicken later today,
>and I was planning to throw the broth away because I have no more
>containers to put broth in.

Why on earth would you be boiling a chicken if not to make broth?
Chicken salad is for me a by-product of stock-making.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:04:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10781
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:04:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E898A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:13:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12845603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:18:48 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68KIlg11348 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:18:48 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g68KMuo16757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:22:56
          +0200
References: <F178X14ctr582zyFWMZ0000a4d2@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020708222256.B16730@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:22:56 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F178X14ctr582zyFWMZ0000a4d2@hotmail.com>; from
              lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM on Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 04:15:46PM -0400

= >and I was planning to throw the broth away because I have no more
= >containers to put broth in.
=
= Why on earth would you be boiling a chicken if not to make broth?
= Chicken salad is for me a by-product of stock-making.
=

And why don't you have any ice cube trays?  And having an ice
maker on your fridge is no excuse.  The proper thing to do with
broth is freeze it into cubes and then empty the cubes into a
ziploc bag.  Or are you still out of containters for that?

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:05:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10788
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:05:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E898CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:14:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12845695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:19:44 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f106.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.106]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68KJig11530 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:19:44 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          8 Jul 2002 13:19:39 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          08 Jul 2002 20:19:38 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2002 20:19:39.0238 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C9471060:01C226BC]
Message-ID:  <F106R4ZDgC81TbdkSmL000000ee@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:19:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>Me, too. Bought cakes taste good, but they aren't for birthdays.

Last year Bruce bought me an Italian rum cake for my birthday. I told him he
could get me that same cake every year. Alas! the bakery has since closed.
Luckily, this is a very Italian area -- northward migration from the Bronx
-- and I'm sure there's another rum cake to be had nearby.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:06:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10792
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:06:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00101E54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:20:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12845850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:20:43 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68KKgg11800 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:20:42 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g68KOoA16770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:24:50
          +0200
References: <F178X14ctr582zyFWMZ0000a4d2@hotmail.com>
            <20020708222256.B16730@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020708222450.C16730@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:24:50 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708222256.B16730@yoccoz.multinix.com>; from
              stevie@multinix.com on Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 10:22:56PM +0200

= ziploc bag.  Or are you still out of containters for that?
                                              ^

It's a typo.  Really!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:06:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10796
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:06:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00101E55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:20:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12845861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:20:48 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f38.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68KKlg11828 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:20:47 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          8 Jul 2002 13:20:42 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          08 Jul 2002 20:20:41 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2002 20:20:42.0269 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[EED8D4D0:01C226BC]
Message-ID:  <F38qbKkZHVFMmyiQQTE0000a521@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:20:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
>And why don't you have any ice cube trays?  And having an ice
>maker on your fridge is no excuse.  The proper thing to do with
>broth is freeze it into cubes and then empty the cubes into a
>ziploc bag.  Or are you still out of containters for that?

Then again, if you have bags, just pour the broth right in and freeze it in
the bag.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:10:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10800
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:09:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E89987@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:18:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12846193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:23:57 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68KNug12484 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:23:56 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g68KNu7Y502703 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002
          16:23:56 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000001c226bd$62f3e260$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:23:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F106R4ZDgC81TbdkSmL000000ee@hotmail.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marie Ascher
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 4:20 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Pizza
>
>
> >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> >Me, too. Bought cakes taste good, but they aren't for birthdays.
>
> Last year Bruce bought me an Italian rum cake for my
> birthday. I told him he
> could get me that same cake every year. Alas! the bakery has
> since closed.
> Luckily, this is a very Italian area -- northward migration
> from the Bronx
> -- and I'm sure there's another rum cake to be had nearby.
>
A good Jewish boy like Bruce should make you a nice apple cake.

alec

ps http://www.cakerecipe.com/az/JewishAppleCakeII.asp

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:12:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10814
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:11:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E899CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:20:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12846341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:26:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68KPxg12793 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:26:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 23AD87CBD; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 13:25:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708202558.23AD87CBD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:25:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708222256.B16730@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul 8,
              2002 10:22:56 pm"

steph said:
> = >and I was planning to throw the broth away because I have no more
> = >containers to put broth in.
> =
> = Why on earth would you be boiling a chicken if not to make broth?
> = Chicken salad is for me a by-product of stock-making.

I found a recipe for something I ate once in Hawaii that requires a
chicken boiled a certain way.

No, it's not voodoo.

> And why don't you have any ice cube trays?  And having an ice
> maker on your fridge is no excuse.  The proper thing to do with
> broth is freeze it into cubes and then empty the cubes into a
> ziploc bag.  Or are you still out of containters for that?

No, but my freezer configuration is not conducive to cubes.

HOWEVER--I could dump what's in the current containers into bags, and
then reuse the containers.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:12:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10818
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:12:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00101ED0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:26:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12846364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:26:09 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f172.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.172]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68KQ9g12834 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:26:09 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          8 Jul 2002 13:26:03 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          08 Jul 2002 20:26:03 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2002 20:26:03.0751 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[AE771770:01C226BD]
Message-ID:  <F172HPOCN7SXKhQ3sEI0000a5b7@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:26:03 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
>A good Jewish boy like Bruce should make you a nice apple cake.

What gives you the idea that he's a GOOD Jewish boy? He's a bacon
cheeseburger Jew.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:13:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10822
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:13:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E89A0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:21:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12846459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:27:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68KR7g13013 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:27:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9BEAA7D08; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 13:26:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708202645.9BEAA7D08@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:26:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F106R4ZDgC81TbdkSmL000000ee@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 8, 2002  4:19:38 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> >Me, too. Bought cakes taste good, but they aren't for birthdays.
>
> Last year Bruce bought me an Italian rum cake for my birthday. I told him he
> could get me that same cake every year. Alas! the bakery has since closed.
> Luckily, this is a very Italian area -- northward migration from the Bronx
> -- and I'm sure there's another rum cake to be had nearby.

As an adult, there are certain bought cakes I'd accept under any
circumstances, even a birthday.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:13:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10826
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:13:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E89A1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:22:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12846481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:27:27 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f168.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.168]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68KRRg13045 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:27:27 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          8 Jul 2002 13:27:21 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          08 Jul 2002 20:27:21 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2002 20:27:21.0593 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[DCDCD690:01C226BD]
Message-ID:  <F168lNK12i3yIGeboqa0000a61e@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:27:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>I found a recipe for something I ate once in Hawaii that requires a
>chicken boiled a certain way.

What is it?
>
>HOWEVER--I could dump what's in the current containers into bags, and
>then reuse the containers.

There ya go.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:14:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10830
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:14:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E89A4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:23:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12846569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:28:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68KSWg13237 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:28:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6A65C7F82; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 13:28:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708202831.6A65C7F82@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:28:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F168lNK12i3yIGeboqa0000a61e@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 8, 2002  4:27:21 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> >I found a recipe for something I ate once in Hawaii that requires a
> >chicken boiled a certain way.
>
> What is it?

Cold ginger chicken.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:18:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10843
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:18:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E89AEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:27:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12846994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:32:32 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68KWWg13984 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:32:32 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g68KWW7Y091151 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002
          16:32:32 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000101c226be$9653a0e0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:32:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F172HPOCN7SXKhQ3sEI0000a5b7@hotmail.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marie Ascher
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 4:26 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Pizza
>
>
> >From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
> >A good Jewish boy like Bruce should make you a nice apple cake.
>
> What gives you the idea that he's a GOOD Jewish boy? He's a bacon
> cheeseburger Jew.
>
I am the same kinda Jew. Pork Fat rules! I was being sarcastic.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:24:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10856
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:24:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E89C15@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:33:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12847712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:38:29 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68KcSg15119 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:38:29 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYY6MC00.8RW for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:37:24 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD   (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <B94F2788.E789%peterlevy@mac.com> <3D29D4E0.5070300@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D29F7F4.66364823@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:37:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Organization: Mesa Community College
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> I think they just figure we're all smart enough to know what
> the word means.

    Not when using it cost the comptroller in the District of Columbia his job a
few years back.

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:33:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10903
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:33:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E89D57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:41:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12848434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:47:12 -0400
Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68KlCg16820 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:47:12 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.161] ([208.138.31.74]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with
          ESMTP id <20020708194529.SROB13091.mail@[208.138.31.74]> for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:45:29 -0400
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B94F6475.E7EC%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:47:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29F7F4.66364823@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>

On 8/7/2002 3:37 PM, John Williams wrote:

>> I think they just figure we're all smart enough to know what
>> the word means.
>
>   Not when using it cost the comptroller in the District of Columbia his job a
> few years back.

He resigned and then was offered back his job a week or two later. He took
up the offer but asked to be re-assigned to a different post. He had been
the director of the Office of the Public Advocate.

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:33:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10910
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:33:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001020E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:47:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12848461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:47:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Klgg16864 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:47:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EDB977F8C; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 13:47:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708204740.EDB977F8C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:47:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F38qbKkZHVFMmyiQQTE0000a521@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 8, 2002  4:20:41 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> Then again, if you have bags, just pour the broth right in and freeze it in
> the bag.

Can you really do this by yourself?! I am impress at your
coordination. If I tried this, I'd end up in the emergency room.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:34:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10914
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:34:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E89D87@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:42:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12848543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:48:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68KmOg17014 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:48:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 17F677F54; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 13:48:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708204822.17F677F54@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:48:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29F7F4.66364823@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at
              "Jul 8, 2002  1:37: 8 pm"

John Williams said:
> Rita Chapman wrote:
> > I think they just figure we're all smart enough to know what
> > the word means.
>
>     Not when using it cost the comptroller in the District of Columbia his job a
> few years back.

This is Words-fucking-L, not an office.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 10:35:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10921
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 10:35:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E89D99@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:43:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12848583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 16:49:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Kn0g17097 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:49:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5F26E7F54; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 13:48:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020708204858.5F26E7F54@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:48:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B94F6475.E7EC%peterlevy@email.com> from Peter Levy at "Jul 8,
              2002  3:47: 1 pm"

Peter Levy said:
> On 8/7/2002 3:37 PM, John Williams wrote:
> >> I think they just figure we're all smart enough to know what
> >> the word means.
> >
> >   Not when using it cost the comptroller in the District of Columbia his job a
> > few years back.
>
> He resigned and then was offered back his job a week or two later. He took
> up the offer but asked to be re-assigned to a different post. He had been
> the director of the Office of the Public Advocate.

Is this word an <issue> for you, Peter?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 11:30:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11110
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 11:30:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8ABAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:38:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12853863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 17:44:10 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68LiAg25655 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:44:10 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-57.panax.com
          [65.114.190.57]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g68Li8j01504 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:44:08
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D29F110.1070701@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708174102.00b2dc70@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:44:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B94F5CC2.E7D2%peterlevy@email.com>

At 03:14 PM 7/8/2002 -0500, peter levy wrote:

>"Struck", not "eliminated". And you are right here again. I am guilty of
>imprecision. I should have said I strike it from usage.

As someone who seems to strive toward simpler words, why do you use "usage"
when "use" would suffice?  The <-age> ending is an excellent example of
overblown and stilted words.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 11:40:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11129
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 11:40:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001026B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:54:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12853889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 17:54:38 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Licg25703 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:44:38 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g68LibUh005041 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:44:37 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207081743580.19948-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:44:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F178X14ctr582zyFWMZ0000a4d2@hotmail.com>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Marie Ascher wrote:

>>I have to think about this. I'm going to boil a chicken later today,
>>and I was planning to throw the broth away because I have no more
>>containers to put broth in.
>
>Why on earth would you be boiling a chicken if not to make broth?
>Chicken salad is for me a by-product of stock-making.

Right. Could you send me the broth? Or part of it?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 11:53:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11174
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 11:52:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010278A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:06:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12854602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 18:06:59 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Luxg27231 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:56:59 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D34720D for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon,  8 Jul 2002 16:56:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g68LuwS61347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:56:58
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207062216040.27024-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D2873EA.3060109@swbell.net> <20020707124524.C35016@pobox.com>
            <3D28A782.50605@swbell.net> <20020707160539.A82962@pobox.com>
            <3D29019B.1050106@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020708165658.A61088@pobox.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:56:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: NYTimes.com Article: The New Retirement Comes in Four
              Financial Flavors - extract
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29019B.1050106@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Sun,
              Jul 07, 2002 at 10:06:03PM -0500

On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 10:06:03PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
> I have never mentioned that at my local public library, in
> order to get to the new books section, I have to walk right
> by a stack on which that Bobo book is shelved.  For some
> reason, among the dozens of books there, that one book pops
> out at me.  It screams "Tushar is taunting you!"

<http://samant.com/-/yasowm>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 12:06:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11213
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 12:06:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8B79B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:15:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12855974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 18:20:43 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68MKhg30368 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:20:43 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws137-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.137]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68MKeQ10272
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:20:41 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708133635.0B6747FCA@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A0FDE.EF27C638@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:19:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I don't think it's the only thing you don't get, but okay, what don't
> you get about the time frame?
>
> Here's how it works:
>
> 1) I worked.
> 2) I got laid off.
> 3) I applied for unemployment.
> 4) I got a contract.
>    During the time the contract runs, I don't apply for
>    unemployment. I live off of savings.
> 5) The contract finished, and I got paid.
> 6) I applied for unemployment.

Ok, I get it now.  What I was confused about was that I thought you were
still getting the unemployment benefits you paid for while working at
Dell (as in the insurance you got as a result of paying premiums
there).  But I assume you paid more premiums while working for whoever
the contract person was.

The listing you gave above is how I thought it worked back when I
thought it was a government subsidy -- like anybody who was out of work
could collect unemployment for x length of time.  Our earlier discussion
set me straight on that.  Now I realize that it's an insurance program
and that you pay premiums every month while working so that you can
collect insurance if you work stops.  Iow, I would not be eligible for
unemployment if I got fired (we're talking pre-retirement now, of
course) since I didn't pay for that kind of insurance.  You did, so you
get it.  As I said, my only confusion re the timeframe was that I had
thought you were still collecting for the premiums you paid while
working for Dell.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 12:08:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11223
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 12:08:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8B815@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:16:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12856059 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 18:22:20 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68MMKg30571 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:22:20 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws137-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.137]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68MMHQ10808
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:22:17 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708133835.2BEC47FE2@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A1093.7FEE82E2@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:22:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Well, I found it very weird that you gave me the options of a)
> advocating that your mother be killed immediately or b) abandoning my
> postion (that most people have baked cakes some time in their
> lifetimes).

?  I don't remember that.  Today has been another very busy day in my
new life of leisure.  I do question your opinion that most people have
baked cakes some time in their lifetimes, of course.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 12:11:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11230
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 12:11:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8B8F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:19:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12856233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 18:25:04 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68MP4g30936 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:25:04 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws137-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.137]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68MP1Q11495
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:25:02 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020707231524.93E717CB1@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D28DD9E.AC019D12@maynor.net> <3D2997A1.7BCB5BC9@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A1138.66F68F5C@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:24:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:
> >  Is making cakes a <requirement> in life?
>
> Did you not have birthday candles? Upon what did you put them?

I didn't put them on anything.  Do the honorees usually have to insert
the candles themselves?  The candles were put upon glorious birthday
cakes with white icing and lots of colorful decorations, usually green
for me because of St. Patrick's Day.  I love bday cakes -- if they're
what I consider <real> bday cakes.  I don't want any homemade
substitute.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 12:15:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11253
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 12:15:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8B9FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:23:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12856530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 18:29:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68MT9g31560 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:29:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws137-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.137]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68MT5Q12688
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:29:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708004853.B5B807E81@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D28E480.6D22B248@maynor.net> <3D299958.E8931FB0@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A122C.C2B9DD03@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:29:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Don't the dogs get too hot? Spike sort of fades out if it is over 80.
> Last week when we had 95-113F, he was a limp blob and very
> uncomfortable. As was I.

These are Southern dogs.  Their ancestors lived without any a/c at all.
So did I, for that matter.  And some of these dogs' cousins are living
outside all the time.  I'm sure I looked <suspicious> today when I
turned around and cruised again slowly by a house I had passed, then
cruised by again a little while later.  I was concerned about a dog on a
chain.  But I was able by craning my neck to ascertain that he did have
water in his bowl and some shade to sit in.  I came home and told Buddy
and Spencer to count their blessings for not having known about
chaindom.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 12:17:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11264
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 12:17:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0010291D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:31:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12856722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 18:31:20 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68MVKg31959 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:31:20 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws137-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.137]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68MVGQ13235
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:31:16 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072124120.7976-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D28F622.B0BD09BA@maynor.net> <3D2999FC.71A9F291@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A12AF.47014B31@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:31:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:
> >  What I call my heat is "the heat."
>
> Whence cometh your heat?

>From the heat.  I talk about a/c and heat.  Those are what I call those
two  merged devices. Or at least they're merged as far as the thermostat
and vents and stuff.  I realize that their guts are in different places
-- the a/c outside and the heat in the attic.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 12:18:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11271
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 12:18:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00102923@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:32:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12856759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 18:32:04 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68MW4g32071 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:32:04 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws137-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.137]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68MW2Q13520
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:32:02 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708005049.AA8657CA0@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D28E537.E1B6F0B9@maynor.net> <3D299BF6.BC69E324@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A12DC.1D23E1CE@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:31:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:
>  Is my mother in
> > jeopardy for not having made a cake?
>
> No. Did you have a cook?

No.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 12:20:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11278
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 12:20:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010294C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:34:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12856892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 18:34:30 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68MYUg32342 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:34:30 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws137-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.137]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68MYRQ14034
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:34:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207072121460.7976-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D28F5C1.8380DEDE@maynor.net> <3D299E64.9044DD36@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A136D.CE8D5298@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:34:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Jitney Jungle sounds to me like a place selling used car parts, clogged
> carbeurators, rusting bumpers, etc. What an odd name for a birthday cake
> store.

Maybe that's why it went bankrupt a couple of years ago -- though after
a long and outstanding lifespan.  It was sad to see it go.  That's
probably what killed Eudora Welty.  She was a regular at Jitney #14 and
was an occasional at Jitney #7.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 12:22:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11303
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 12:22:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8BD7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:30:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12857415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 18:36:21 -0400
Received: from panther.mail.utk.edu (panther.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68MaLg00437 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:36:21 -0400
Received: from webmail.utk.edu (abbott.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.169]) by
          panther.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g68MaJFZ013707
          (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168
          verify=FAIL) for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:36:19
          -0400
X-WebMail-UserID:  dumasb
X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002286
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.08
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <3D2F7D24@webmail.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:36:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The church of SpongeBob Squarepants
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>http://www.churchoofspongebob.org

Could not find it.
Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 12:37:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11359
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 12:37:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8C1EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:46:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12858542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 18:51:39 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Mpdg02668 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:51:39 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws168-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.168]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68MpaQ18775
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:51:37 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708023118.95FC17D17@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D290095.70702@swbell.net> <3D298335.6B4F3F2@maynor.net>
            <3D299E78.2060105@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A1742.8CF73B4D@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:50:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> > I was certainly of that generation.  But nobody expected us to take home
> > ec courses.  It's true, I think, that the career expectations of those
> > days influenced what many of us chose to major in.  There were
> > exceptions, of course, but in general girls of my generation majored in
> > housewifely fields like English, almost always getting teaching
> > certificates.  The <normal> routine was to get married right after
> > college and teach while your spouse finished med school or law school or
> > whatever.  Then after your children were grown, you might choose to go
> > back to teaching.  So even then things had changed from my mother's
> > generation, when most women didn't seem to have working plans at all.
> > My mother majored in English but without a teaching certificate.
>
>         This is why there are so many very wretched English teachers.

Not necessarily.  That's an interesting and complicated question.  On
the one hand, it's true now that a smart person like you who chooses to
become an English teacher does so because of a real passion for teaching
English.  But on the other hand, plenty of smart females who in fact
would be good English teachers (or teachers of other subjects) don't
choose it now because there are so many more options -- options that
might have existed in earlier generations but that would have been
stranger options to go with.  And that leaves the teaching profession
open to lots of less smart, less capable, less energetic people --
people in some cases who lend credence to the old "if you can't do, you
teach" thing.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 12:41:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11435
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 12:41:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8C23E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:49:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12858809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 18:55:22 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68MtMg03188 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:55:22 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws168-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.168]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68MtJQ20013
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:55:20 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708124440.675B47CC7@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D299289.10044291@maynor.net> <3D299F78.80907@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A1852.3720A96F@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:55:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> > It's a good thing neither of you lived in Jackson -- or if you moved
> > there, I would hope it would have been long enough before your bday for
> > you to realize how embarrassing it would be for your mother to serve
> > home-make cake at your bday party.  I don't think I ever saw it happen,
> > but I can imagine the awkwardness and horror and strange glances among
> > the party guests.
>
>         Why?  Is it a class thing?  My mom can afford to *buy* me a cake?

Not at all.  Although I've never done a comparison, my guess is that
making a cake costs more than buying one.  "Class" was a concept I
didn't encounter at all until talking to people when I was in college.
I was appalled at the concept.  There were no <class> thoughts in my
k-12 years.  Or maybe I can't say that.  I didn't know what everybody
was *thinking*.  But there was no evidence of class-consciousness in my
school years -- until college.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 12:48:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11454
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 12:48:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8C301@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:57:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12859403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 19:02:30 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68N2Tg04195 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:02:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws168-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.168]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68N2RQ22027
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:02:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708124440.675B47CC7@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D299289.10044291@maynor.net> <3D299F78.80907@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A19FD.56608436@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:02:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> > home-make cake at your bday party.  I don't think I ever saw it happen,
> > but I can imagine the awkwardness and horror and strange glances among
> > the party guests.
>
>         Why?  Is it a class thing?  My mom can afford to *buy* me a cake?

I just realized that in my surprise at the introduction of <class> on
this topic that I forgot to answer your "why?"  The why is that most
children are into not being <odd>.  There are some children who don't
seem to mind following different drummers, of course, but most children
in my experience have not wanted to seem <different>.  If it was the
norm to have Jitney Jungle bday cakes at bday parties, it would have
seemed <weird> to vary from that, and most  children don't like being
<weird>.

Re desire to conform vs class, something just hopped into my head as a
good datum to show that those aren't the same thing.  My RRSIL was
concerned for years that my nephew refused to invite any of his friends
to their house.  He finally confessed to her that he would be
embarrassed because of their being so obviously rich.  My RRSIL found
that odd.  I didn't.  I could see how somebody his age would think that
way (even though all his classmates were plenty rich themselves -- just
not quite as rich).  And he did outgrow that.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 12:50:31 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11492
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 12:50:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00102C05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:04:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12859527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 19:04:28 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68N4Sg04416 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:04:28 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws168-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.168]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68N4QQ22457
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:04:26 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708011934.86D047C49@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D28F7AF.6000004@swbell.net> <3D299F9B.2391E7BE@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A1A75.CF7C6108@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:04:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> I am in that generation, but never took home ec, or typing.

Fitting typing into one's schedule was a big thing in my hs.  It was
considered essential to know how to type upon graduation because of
having to type college papers.  Some people went to summer school to
take it, if they really couldn't find a way to fit it in.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 12:52:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11510
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 12:52:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8C33D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:00:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12859616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 19:06:03 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68N63g04606 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:06:03 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws168-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.168]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68N60Q22842
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:06:01 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D286B0A.6617.204DDD7@localhost> <3D28FAE7.3AB66662@maynor.net>
            <3D29A0B4.8BA238DB@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A1AD3.E8E3EAA3@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:05:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> I do not want to put words into your mouth, but I am getting the
> impression that you think that baking cakes is demeaning or beneath
> one's station.

You are definitely putting inappropriate words into my mouth.  I have
never thought of cake-baking as <demeaning> or <beneath one's station>.
I find that associate weird beyond words.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 13:03:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11533
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 13:03:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8C43F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:11:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12860297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 19:17:01 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68NH1g06272 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:17:01 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws168-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.168]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68NGwQ25419
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:16:58 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708144701.44DF57E31@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A1D64.CAAFE531@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:16:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> I bought some Sam's Choice cola and tried it on a very stubborn sink.
> In the past, I have dumped bleach down there, but I know that this is
> a horrible thing to do, and I didn't LIKE doing it, but this drain has
> been recalcitrant ever since I moved in. (It's my sink in the master
> bath, so I use it a lot.)

What's a stubborn sink?  I thought at first from what you said about
bleach that you meant it looked dirty.  But then you mentioned a
recalcitrant drain.  I highly recommend air guns, as we've discussed
before.  They solve any sluggish drain problem quickly and perfectly.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 13:04:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11537
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 13:04:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8C467@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:13:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12860397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 19:18:54 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68NIsg06507 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:18:54 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws168-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.168]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68NIqQ25827
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:18:52 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708145338.A94CF7FB8@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A1DD6.11677A98@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:18:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > I did over the weekend. A total of 25 ranging in age from 1 to 65.
>
> Okay, this shows how far <gone> I am: all I can think of is the
> expense, re water and A/C. And toiet paper. I don't *like* having that
> be the first thing I think of.
>
> I suppose Natalie would think of the difficult garbage first,
> though.:)

No, all I would think about is the hassle of all those sheets and towels
to wash.  But I wouldn't mind at all having that many people staying in
my house if we could figure out where all they could sleep.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 13:07:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11541
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 13:07:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00102D25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:21:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12860569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 19:21:07 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68NL7g06883 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:21:07 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws168-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.168]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68NL5Q26410
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:21:05 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708124440.675B47CC7@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D299289.10044291@maynor.net> <3D29A8CD.B1C32BD9@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A1E5B.61DEE344@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:20:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> > but I can imagine the awkwardness and horror and strange glances among
> > the party guests.
>
> Oh, yes. I can just imagine little children making an assessment of the
> cake, noting that it did not have the Jitney Jungle provenance stamp on
> it, and refusing to eat it. And then going home to tell their mothers
> how embarrassing it was, resulting in the whole town's knowing how tacky
> the hostess was ere long.

I don't think "tacky" would be the right word.  "Strange" would be.  I
can indeed imagine children going home and talking about the terrible
cake since they would presumably have arrived at the party expecting
Jitney Jungle cake.  Certainly not all of them would necessarily know
that bday cakes come from JJ.  But they would recognize an alien cake as
alien.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 13:08:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11553
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 13:08:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00102D2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:22:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12860630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 19:22:00 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68NM0g07042 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:22:00 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g68NLuNa022175 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:21:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020708162129.00a66410@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:21:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The church of SpongeBob Squarepants
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F7D24@webmail.utk.edu>

delete one of the "o's" inbetween church and sponge

At 06:36 PM 7/8/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >http://www.churchoofspongebob.org
>
>Could not find it.
>Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 13:12:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11557
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 13:12:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00102D6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:26:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12860872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 19:26:26 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68NQPg07556 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:26:25 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws76-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.76]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g68NQNQ27616
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:26:23 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F122mjOHaeKyf9kaN3g00009408@hotmail.com>
            <3D28DB64.A5A36D74@maynor.net> <3D298D01.19B69A18@valstar.net>
            <3D2993FC.D5F43B3@maynor.net> <3D29A96C.2AED2EB7@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A1F96.8519B040@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:26:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> > No.  I said nothing about "should be thrown away."
> >
> <sigh> Yes, you did. You said you'd tell the people you'd  throw the
> food away if they did not take it.

This is surprising.  I wouldn't be surprised if various others had made
this strange leap, but you are usually a better reader and thinker than
this, Alyce.  I said that I would tell the people that I hate leftovers
and would throw the food away if they did not take it.  Where in that do
you glean "should be thrown away"??  I know many people who adore
leftover pizza.  I detest it.  Does that mean that I think leftover
pizza *should be* thrown away?  Well, yes, if it happens to be in my
house with nobody else to eat it -- since throwing something you hate
away does seem like a should to me unless you're starving to death.  But
does this mean that I think everybody should throw away leftover pizza?
Of course not.

I thought of pizza because my pizza dinger is about to ding.  There
won't be any leftover, though, since it's one of those wonderful small
"Smart Ones" four-cheese pizzas.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 13:16:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11576
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 13:16:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8C5B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:25:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12861129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 19:30:49 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68NUng08155 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:30:49 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-91.panax.com [63.163.41.91])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68NUlj20321 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:30:47 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020708124440.675B47CC7@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D299289.10044291@maynor.net> <3D299F78.80907@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708192854.00a05270@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:30:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A1852.3720A96F@maynor.net>

>"Class" was a concept I
>didn't encounter at all until talking to people when I was in college.
>I was appalled at the concept.  There were no <class> thoughts in my
>k-12 years.  Or maybe I can't say that.  I didn't know what everybody
>was *thinking*.  But there was no evidence of class-consciousness in my
>school years -- until college.    -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

This is hilarious.  That's because you were all of the same class.  You all
went to college.  You all had money.  The blacks went to a different
school.  God knows what the poor white trash did.  I imagine your brother
wasn't nearly so appalled when he got to college and learned about class
distinctions.  He must have ate it up!


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 13:26:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11584
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 13:26:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00102E54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:40:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12861478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 19:40:49 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68Neng09174 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:40:49 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000069;
          8 Jul 02 19:40:35 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 8 Jul 02
          19:40:28 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000068; 8 Jul 02 19:40:27 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D29EAAA.28253.A197555A@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:40:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708144701.44DF57E31@yellow.rahul.net>

On Monday, July 08, 2002 at 7:47, Karen Kay wrote:

> I bought some Sam's Choice cola and tried it on a very stubborn sink.

Is that the "Sam's All American Choice" that's made in Canada by
Cott?

> In the past, I have dumped bleach down there, but I know that this is
> a horrible thing to do, and I didn't LIKE doing it, but this drain has
> been recalcitrant ever since I moved in. (It's my sink in the master
> bath, so I use it a lot.)

What's so bad about bleach down the drain? Bleach quickly degrades
into mostly salt and water.

> Well, it worked like a charm. I was extremely impressed.

It's the phosphoric acid that removes rust stains. You can boil up a
mess of rhubarb leaves to extract the oxalic acid and use that too.
Just don't drink the result.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 13:30:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11599
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 13:30:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8C766@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:39:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12861718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 19:44:33 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g68NiXg09696 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:44:33 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO00006B;
          8 Jul 02 19:44:19 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 8 Jul 02
          19:44:08 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG00006A; 8 Jul 02 19:43:58 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <200207081722.g68HMjZ17103@pasta.cc.uga.edu>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D29EB7E.2592.A19A914B@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:43:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: What happened with your forms processing idea?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D299792.17974.148851F@localhost>

On Monday, July 08, 2002 at 13:45, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

> oh no  Did I mass delete the messages on how we are considering
> implementing OCR at words-l ?  I'd better start reading my mail
> more carefully.
>
> BrP

It's a more subtle kind of spam I see more and more of. I've got
several at work, addressed to my company by name, requesting
assistance purchasing and configuring some software that we don't
make. I almost replied, but on a whim Googled the guy's name, and
surprise surprise - it's a scam/spam. Of course *they* are the ones
selling the software in question, just as these guys are selling OCR
systems.

Tony H.

> >  An outside consultant mentioned that he had heard that not to
> >  long ago you folks were considering implementing OCR
> >  technology to reduce data entry costs and improve efficiency.
>
> >     If you cannot advise on this please foreward this E-mail to the
> >  proper individual in your company who might be able to help with
> >  this.
> >
> >                           Thanks,
> >
> >                                   Steve

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 13:46:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11645
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 13:46:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8C9C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:55:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12862160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 20:00:49 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6900ng10968 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:00:49 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws158-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.158]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6900kQ05799
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:00:46 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708141900.6CAEB7F92@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D29ABB0.A500CE2B@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A2779.CEF95F6B@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:59:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Rusting because they're used. Jungle (to me) implies crowded with
> auto-part life with no clear paths amidst it.

Did I tell before about my mother's one attempt at making a dress for
me?  I have no memory of it, but she claims it was quite awful and tells
the story of a neighbor saying, "Where did you get that dress, Natalie?"
and my answering, "My mother bought it for me at the Jitney Jungle."
I've heard that story zillions of times in my life.  (The occurrence was
when we lived on Poplar, meaning that it had to have been in the first
four years of my life.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 13:49:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11649
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 13:49:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8CA01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:57:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12862236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 20:03:20 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6903Kg11204 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:03:20 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws158-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.158]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6903HQ06330
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:03:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708151735.220158044@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A2840.2C42F126@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:03:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: The cheesecake recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> alyce cresap said:
> > Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > > No.  I said nothing about "should be thrown away."
> > >
> > <sigh> Yes, you did. You said you'd tell the people you'd  throw the
> > food away if they did not take it.
>
> One of the people who came to my house a few weeks ago made crawfish
> etouffe, and he suggested we throw it out at the end of the party,
> because it had been sitting out. I was horrified, and so were other

This is an interesting story, but it is a non-sequitor re what I was
talking about.  (I'm not objecting to the morphing.  That's what Words-L
is all about.  I just wanted to make clear that when I was talking about
throwing away food if somebody didn't take it, it had nothing to do with
attitudes toward spoilage.)

> To sum up:), one person's trash is another's treasure.

Exactly.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 13:50:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11656
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 13:50:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8CA26@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:59:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12862295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 20:04:26 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6904Ng11319 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:04:23 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-57.panax.com
          [65.114.190.57]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6904Jj26852 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:04:19
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020708133835.2BEC47FE2@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708200220.00b75d40@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:04:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A1093.7FEE82E2@maynor.net>

At 05:22 PM 7/8/2002 -0500, natalie wrote:
>   Today has been another very busy day in my
>new life of leisure.

The key to retirement is to be able to say each day:  "I will do <one>
thing."  Then the busyiness will disappear.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 13:51:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11663
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 13:51:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8CA51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:00:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12862356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 20:05:49 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6905ng11487 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:05:49 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws158-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.158]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6905jQ07001
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:05:45 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708154328.14E877F91@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A28D4.4E99ED6B@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:05:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I don't drink regular cola, and this is generic, not Coca Cola, so
> probably no one else will drink it.

Is Pepsi chopped liver?  I drink Pepsi most often, though I don't
hesitate to call it "coke" since that's the word in my dialect for that
kind of drink.  But re generic or otherwise <odd> colas, I still have
pangs of bad feeling when thinking about finally throwing away (during
my move to this house) the Yes Cola that Giggles brought to GoatRoast.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 13:53:12 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11670
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 13:53:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00102FC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:07:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12862385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 20:07:05 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69075g11597 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:07:05 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws158-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.158]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69070Q07314
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:07:02 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708152143.B63EE7F7B@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D297AE6.16338.D88065@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A291F.E85DC135@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:06:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> It's a word I wouldn't use if I thought the audience was stupid
> enough to mistake it for a version of the real N-word - and I would
> feel bad at having to censor myself for the sake of ignorance if I
> made that choice.  Can anyone think of other words that would fit
> this category?  Thespian?  Bitch when you're really talking about a
> female dog?

Deictic?  Renege?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 13:55:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11677
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 13:55:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8CAD2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:04:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12862441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 20:09:45 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6909jg11748 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:09:45 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws158-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.158]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6909fQ08079
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:09:43 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207081207150.15468-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A29C0.8C6FE55F@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:09:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >It's a good thing neither of you lived in Jackson -- or if you moved
> > ...

> I would have been outraged if I had been served a commercial cake for my
> birthday.

Is this really the first time you've encountered cultural diversity?  I
feel sure that if I had grown up in whatever your town was and homemade
cakes had been the birthday norm, then I would have found it
embarrassing to have a different kind of cake -- just as you would have
if you had grown up in my town.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 14:02:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11705
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 14:02:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8CB9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:10:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12862616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 20:16:08 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g690G8g12175 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:16:08 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws158-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.158]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g690G5Q10145
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:16:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <B94F2788.E789%peterlevy@mac.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A2B40.FC7F6D66@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:16:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Peter D. Levy" wrote:

> Something else though, is not the choice itself, to use it knowing the risk
> of creating 'mis-understanding', a statement about your view of those who
> dislike it?

That's a good question.  It never occurred to me until the to-do in
Washington a few years ago to think that anybody would think of
"niggardly" as anything other than, well, "niggardly."  It has never
struck me as a strange word.  And I had never thought of the
phonological similarity to "nigger" until that news story a few years
ago.  I discussed it with students, of course, and found that the better
students of both races found the idea of excluding that word from their
vocabularies <silly>.  Still, though, I think I would hesitate to use it
now, except maybe with a verbal footnote attached, like "You do know
what that word means, don't you?"

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 14:03:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11712
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 14:03:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8CBB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:11:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12862646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 20:17:01 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g690H0g12254 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002
          20:17:01 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JMS02114; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:16:53 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JWW00100; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:16:53 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D299E7D.26440.100F743@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:15:25 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A0FDE.EF27C638@maynor.net>

On 8 Jul 2002 at 17:19, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Ok, I get it now.  What I was confused about was that I thought you were
> still getting the unemployment benefits you paid for while working at Dell
> (as in the insurance you got as a result of paying premiums there).  But I
> assume you paid more premiums while working for whoever the contract
> person was.

No, you still don't get it. Unemployment insurance is an employer-paid
program. The employee does not pay premiums.

    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 14:11:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11742
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 14:11:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8CCEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:20:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12863079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 20:25:52 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g690Pqg12925 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:25:52 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws113-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.113]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g690PkQ12424
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:25:46 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D286B0A.6617.204DDD7@localhost> <3D28FAE7.3AB66662@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708124109.00a0cec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A2D84.7684E342@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:25:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> Even worse, perhaps home-baked cakes are considered a Yankee thing.

That's not something I've ever heard.  In fact, it might be kind of
interesting to do a regional break-down on it.  My guess is that Yankees
wouldn't come out on top of that list.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 14:12:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11749
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 14:12:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8CD0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:21:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12863117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 20:26:51 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g690Qog12969 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:26:50 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws113-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.113]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g690QhQ12642
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:26:44 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708170903.D20007C87@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A2DB4.A7485315@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:26:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Or snobs. It makes me understand Natalie's RRB better.

What does snobbery have to do with it?  I'm finding that angle
hilarious.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 14:19:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11783
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 14:19:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8CDAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:28:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12863341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 20:33:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g690XTg13584 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:33:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws113-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.113]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g690XNQ14547
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:33:23 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207081353450.17618-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A2F4D.CDBBC7DE@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:33:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> I wonder if Natalie has ever eaten homemade ice cream? If so, did she
> admit it in public?

I adored something my mother used to make in ice trays.  I don't
remember what it came from -- as in whether it just came out of a carton
and was dumped into the ice trays or whether she had to add milk or
what.  But it was wonderful.  The name "Blue Ribbon" is popping up in my
mind in relation to this memory.  Was "Blue Ribbon" a brand of homemade
icecream in freezer trays?  I've also had homemade ice cream at other
times, like at a friend's house, when her father had one of those
ice-cream machines with a crank and made peach ice cream.  I must admit
that I didn't like it much because it had nasty peach globules in it.

> ice cream with family earlier - my favorite was peach, made, of course,
> with tree-ripened peaches fresh-picked for the occasion. We also made

Oops!  I wrote the above before getting to this part.  Not that seeing
what you wrote later would've made me lie about my dislike of that peach
ice cream, of course.  But I thought I should say that I really hadn't
read your peach part when writing what I did about the peach globules.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 14:29:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11799
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 14:29:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8CECD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:38:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12863980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 20:43:28 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g690hSg14956 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:43:28 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws113-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.113]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g690hPQ17675
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:43:26 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F62bYeqDA37FOGOwaDf00006ed5@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A31A8.6048B467@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:43:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rashmi Murthy wrote:

> >It's amusing reading the vehemence of the discussion regarding cakes and
> >whether it is a good or bad thing to have a home-made cake on one's
>
> I'm calling it a tie. Both sides appear equally vehement.

Huh?  I'm not vehement at all about whether it's a <good or bad thing>
to bake cakes.  All I've said is that baking cakes is something I've
never done, something my mother has never done, something my grandmother
probably never did, and something that wasn't <done> for bday parties in
my particular schools.

I do find it strange that Karen et al seem to think that everybody bakes
cakes.  Baking cakes is not like going to the bathroom or washing your
face.  What I've found even weirder is the later idea introduced that
cake-baking has something to do with <class>.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 14:44:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11848
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 14:44:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001032DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:58:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12864324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 20:58:11 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g690mBg15696 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:48:11 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g690mAUh022450 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:48:10 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207082043180.23015-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:48:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A29C0.8C6FE55F@maynor.net>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> I would have been outraged if I had been served a commercial cake for my
>> birthday.
>
>Is this really the first time you've encountered cultural diversity?  I

Thank you for continuing your non sequiturs!

>feel sure that if I had grown up in whatever your town was and homemade
>cakes had been the birthday norm, then I would have found it
>embarrassing to have a different kind of cake -- just as you would have
>if you had grown up in my town.

Birthday cakes were not in my famly an ocasion of <normative
behavior>; one was not required to have either a particular flavor or
color. But the idea that an adult in my family would pick up a commercial
cake at a bakery instead of creating something special for a child's
birthday would have seemed quite rude. Commercial cakes were okay for some
occasions - but not our birthdays. I have no idea what kinds of cakes my
friends got. I do not recall ever discussing commercial cakes with any of
them. The basic fact was that commercial cakes were quite inferior.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 14:46:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11864
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 14:46:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8D0F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:54:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12865218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:00:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6910Og17647 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:00:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B8CEA7C28; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 18:00:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709010022.B8CEA7C28@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:00:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708174102.00b2dc70@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 8, 2002  5:44: 6 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> At 03:14 PM 7/8/2002 -0500, peter levy wrote:
> >"Struck", not "eliminated". And you are right here again. I am guilty of
> >imprecision. I should have said I strike it from usage.
>
> As someone who seems to strive toward simpler words, why do you use "usage"
> when "use" would suffice?  The <-age> ending is an excellent example of
> overblown and stilted words.

I don't talk about language use, I talk about language usage; 'usage'
indicates a pattern of use to me.

HOT DAMN! Webster agrees with me: "1 a : firmly established and
generally accepted practice or procedure b : a uniform certain
reasonable lawful practice existing in a particular locality or
occupation and binding persons entering into transactions chiefly on
the basis of presumed familiarity c : the way in which words and
phrases are actually used (as in a particular form or sense) in a
language community"

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 14:47:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11868
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 14:47:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8D101@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:55:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12864550 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:00:55 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g690osg16164 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:50:54 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g690osUh023568 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:50:54 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207082049480.23015-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:50:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A2F4D.CDBBC7DE@maynor.net>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>ice-cream machines with a crank and made peach ice cream.  I must admit
>that I didn't like it much because it had nasty peach globules in it.

I suggest that you use non-nasty peach globules next time you make peach
ice cream. The result is much better. Or are you simply prejudiced against
tree-ripened peaches?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 14:47:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11872
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 14:47:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8D114@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:56:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12865286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:01:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6911fg17802 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:01:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BCEA47CF5; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 18:01:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709010140.BCEA47CF5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:01:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207081743580.19948-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 8, 2002  5:44:36 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> Right. Could you send me the broth? Or part of it?

It's still on my stove. Pretty soon it will be in my fridge.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 14:53:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11883
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 14:53:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010337E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:07:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12865798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:07:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6917Ig18766 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:07:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9AF41817E; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 18:07:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709010716.9AF41817E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:07:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A0FDE.EF27C638@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  5:19:10 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Ok, I get it now.  What I was confused about was that I thought you were
> still getting the unemployment benefits you paid for while working at
> Dell (as in the insurance you got as a result of paying premiums
> there).  But I assume you paid more premiums while working for whoever
> the contract person was.

No, of course not. Unemployment is a benefit; contractors don't get
benefits (for the most part--I certainly haven't).

> The listing you gave above is how I thought it worked back when I
> thought it was a government subsidy -- like anybody who was out of work
> could collect unemployment for x length of time.

Six months.

> Now I realize that it's an insurance program and that you pay
> premiums every month while working so that you can collect insurance
> if you work stops.

You didn't read that URL that I posted, did you? The employers pays
the premiums.

> Iow, I would not be eligible for
> unemployment if I got fired (we're talking pre-retirement now, of
> course) since I didn't pay for that kind of insurance.

No. I collected unemployment when I left NMSU. Employers of more than
a certain number of employees are required to pay into the
unemployment fund.

> As I said, my only confusion re the timeframe was that I had
> thought you were still collecting for the premiums you paid while
> working for Dell.

No, this was not your only confusion. I'm not sure you grasp the basic
concept.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 14:55:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11890
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 14:55:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8D2AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:03:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12865928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:09:11 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6919Ag19001 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:09:11 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 11E6781B7; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 18:09:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709010909.11E6781B7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:09:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A12AF.47014B31@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  5:31:11 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> alyce cresap wrote:
> > >  What I call my heat is "the heat."
> >
> > Whence cometh your heat?
>
> >From the heat.  I talk about a/c and heat.  Those are what I call those
> two  merged devices. Or at least they're merged as far as the thermostat
> and vents and stuff.  I realize that their guts are in different places
> -- the a/c outside and the heat in the attic.

My AC has an outside and an inside component. What's outside is only
part of it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:04:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11905
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:04:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8D56B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:12:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12866439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:18:06 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691I5g20111 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:18:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3092A7CF1; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 18:17:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709011743.3092A7CF1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:17:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A1D64.CAAFE531@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  6:16:52 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> I highly recommend air guns, as we've discussed
> before.  They solve any sluggish drain problem quickly and perfectly.

They cost more money than cola.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:05:58 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11913
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:04:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11531
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:09:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010345A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:18:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12866455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:18:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691IPg20135 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:18:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3FB9A80D9; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 18:18:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709011824.3FB9A80D9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:18:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A1DD6.11677A98@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  6:18:46 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> No, all I would think about is the hassle of all those sheets and towels
> to wash.

Why? Don't you have a washer?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:08:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11919
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:08:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8D64D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:16:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12866643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:21:56 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691Ltg20532 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:21:55 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g691Lsd11637 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:21:54
          -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020708202831.6A65C7F82@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <004f01c226e7$321a9920$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:23:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Marie Ascher said:
> > >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > >I found a recipe for something I ate once in Hawaii that requires a
> > >chicken boiled a certain way.
> >
> > What is it?
>
> Cold ginger chicken.
>
> Karen

It's good.  Wonder why I've never
tried to make it.

      - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:08:08 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11911
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:04:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11513
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:09:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010342F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:15:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12865702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:15:58 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6915wg18541 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:05:58 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6915wUh028550 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:05:58 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207082105400.23015-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:05:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020709010140.BCEA47CF5@yellow.rahul.net>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> Right. Could you send me the broth? Or part of it?
>
>It's still on my stove. Pretty soon it will be in my fridge.

Well, okay - be that way.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:08:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11928
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:08:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8D665@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:16:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12866671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:22:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691MPg20639 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:22:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C3CBD7CCF; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 18:22:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709012221.C3CBD7CCF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:22:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29EAAA.28253.A197555A@localhost> from Tony Harminc at "Jul 8,
              2002  7:40:26 pm"

Tony Harminc said:
> What's so bad about bleach down the drain? Bleach quickly degrades
> into mostly salt and water.

I vaguely remember something about ph. Argh! I never write this! You
know--acid/alkaline.

> > Well, it worked like a charm. I was extremely impressed.
>
> It's the phosphoric acid that removes rust stains. You can boil up a
> mess of rhubarb leaves to extract the oxalic acid and use that too.
> Just don't drink the result.

And rhubarb was on sale at HEB...

Some web sites said the citric acid,  some said phosphoric acid. In
either case, most soft drinks (not just cola) should work, right?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:11:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11938
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:11:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8D6DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:19:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12866794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:24:55 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691Osg20867 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:24:54 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F325580F3; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 18:24:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709012453.F325580F3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:24:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A28D4.4E99ED6B@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  7: 5:40 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I don't drink regular cola, and this is generic, not Coca Cola, so
> > probably no one else will drink it.
>
> Is Pepsi chopped liver?

It's as expensive as Coca Cola. The point was to save money.

How are you going to get FF miles now?!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:11:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11945
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:11:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8D6DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:19:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12866798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:24:57 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691Ovg20872 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:24:57 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g691Oud12305 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:24:56
          -0500 (CDT)
References: <20020708133835.2BEC47FE2@yellow.rahul.net> 
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708200220.00b75d40@mail.panax.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <009b01c226e7$9ea04680$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:26:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> The key to retirement is to be able to say each day:  "I will do <one>
> thing."  Then the busyiness will disappear.
>
> cwv

How about . . "I will do one thing."

"I will get up."

      ?????

         - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:12:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11950
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:12:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8D71A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:20:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12866898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:26:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691Q4g21067 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:26:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 13C537D1F; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 18:26:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709012604.13C537D1F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:26:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D299E7D.26440.100F743@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 8, 2002  2:15:25 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 8 Jul 2002 at 17:19, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> > Ok, I get it now.  What I was confused about was that I thought you were
> > still getting the unemployment benefits you paid for while working at Dell
> > (as in the insurance you got as a result of paying premiums there).  But I
> > assume you paid more premiums while working for whoever the contract
> > person was.
>
> No, you still don't get it. Unemployment insurance is an employer-paid
> program. The employee does not pay premiums.

But it's a benefit, so it's factored into <total compensation>.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:12:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11957
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:12:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8D733@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:21:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12866949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:26:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691QUg21154 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:26:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 03ACD7D21; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 18:26:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709012628.03ACD7D21@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:26:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A2DB4.A7485315@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  7:26:28 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Or snobs. It makes me understand Natalie's RRB better.
>
> What does snobbery have to do with it?  I'm finding that angle
> hilarious.

Of course you do.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:17:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11977
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:16:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8D7FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:24:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12867249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:30:07 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691U7g21829 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:30:07 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g691U3Q00839
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:30:04 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708124440.675B47CC7@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D299289.10044291@maynor.net> <3D299F78.80907@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708192854.00a05270@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A3C9A.B807BED@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:30:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> >"Class" was a concept I
> >didn't encounter at all until talking to people when I was in college.
> >I was appalled at the concept.  There were no <class> thoughts in my
> >k-12 years.  Or maybe I can't say that.  I didn't know what everybody
> >was *thinking*.  But there was no evidence of class-consciousness in my
> >school years -- until college.    -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
> This is hilarious.  That's because you were all of the same class.  You all
> went to college.

Why is it hilarious?  I've said many times that there was no class thing
in my hs because there wasn't much diversity.  Although I wouldn't say
now, based on my later knowledge of <classes>, that we were "all of the
same class," it's true that we all were from families that planned to
send us to college, etc.  I had no classmates who were of what is called
"lower class."  I didn't know about <classes> until later in life.

>  You all had money.

As I think I've said before, my high school was referred to as "the rich
school."  But that was not entirely true.  It was true that nobody was
dirt poor.  But it was most certainly not true that everybody was
"rich."  My family, for example, was far from rich.  We were
middle-middle re income.  My parents made sure that we children didn't
ever have to worry about food or shelter or going to college.  But we
certainly didn't have all the extras that many of our friends had.  It
didn't really bother me.  I had other friends who were in our kind of
situation.  My friend in your neck-of-the-woods was one.  Her family
didn't have extra money either.

> The blacks went to a different
> school.  God knows what the poor white trash did.

Yes, the blacks went to different schools.  So did the PWT, but for
different reasons.  We had school districts back then that dictated
which schools you went to if you were white.

>  I imagine your brother
> wasn't nearly so appalled when he got to college and learned about class
> distinctions.  He must have ate it up!

I don't know that he was exactly into class, but he caught on at some
point that he wanted money.  He has said that.  I can't remember whether
it was when he was in hs or in college, but I do remember his going to
pick up a date somewhere and saying that he loved her house and that he
wanted to make enough money to have a house like that.  He mega-outdid
that minor aspiration.  He went into medicine purely for the money and
has never said otherwise.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

PS:  In answer to Rita or whoever it was -- no, my family never had
maids or cooks or yardworkers or whatever.  My father took care of the
yard, and my mother took care of the cooking and cleaning.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:17:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11979
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:17:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8D827@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:25:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12867299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:30:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691Uxg21928 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:30:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8961E81B5; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 18:30:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709013058.8961E81B5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:30:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207082105400.23015-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 8, 2002  9: 5:58 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >> Right. Could you send me the broth? Or part of it?
> >
> >It's still on my stove. Pretty soon it will be in my fridge.
>
> Well, okay - be that way.

Sorry--wait till I get a job, then I'd be happy to mail you all the
stock you want.

This was a pretty good chicken, for 57 cents/lb. LOTS of meat.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:20:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11993
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:20:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8D8D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:29:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12867559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:34:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691Yng22422 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:34:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1580881B3; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 18:34:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709013410.1580881B3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:34:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <004f01c226e7$321a9920$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 8, 2002  8:23:13 pm"

Doris Markland said:
> > Marie Ascher said:
> > > >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > > >I found a recipe for something I ate once in Hawaii that requires a
> > > >chicken boiled a certain way.
> > >
> > > What is it?
> >
> > Cold ginger chicken.
> >
> > Karen
>
> It's good.  Wonder why I've never
> tried to make it.

I've only ever had it at this one Makiki restaurant that isn't there
any more.

And this was... uh... 25 years ago. So how would you describe what you
call "cold ginger chicken".

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:22:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12000
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:22:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8D90C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:30:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12867625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:36:08 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691a8g22564 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:36:08 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g691a5Q02534
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:36:05 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708133835.2BEC47FE2@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708200220.00b75d40@mail.panax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A3E03.ED60EF45@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:36:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:

> The key to retirement is to be able to say each day:  "I will do <one>
> thing."  Then the busyiness will disappear.

I'm still dealing with <residue> now but am planning on getting over the
hump.  I decided today, as I was cutting the grass this morning instead
of teaching a class, that retirement ain't half bad.  (That was not
because I necessarily like cutting the grass.  It was mainly that late
yesterday I got into my usual end-of-the-weekend worry about things I
hadn't gotten done that needed to be done before Monday morning arrived,
and then I thought, "WAIT!  I don't have to be teaching at 8:00 Monday
morning!  I can cut the grass then!"  So in a way my epiphany occurred
late yesterday, but I didn't totally feel it until this morning.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:22:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12004
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:22:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8D926@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:31:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12867639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:36:30 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691aSg22584 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:36:28 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-129.panax.com
          [65.114.190.129]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g691aOj12103 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:36:25
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020708124440.675B47CC7@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D299289.10044291@maynor.net> <3D299F78.80907@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708192854.00a05270@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708213316.00a1b8a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:36:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A3C9A.B807BED@maynor.net>

> > >"Class" was a concept I
> > >didn't encounter at all until talking to people when I was in college.
> > >I was appalled at the concept.  -- Natalie
> >
> > This is hilarious.  That's because you were all of the same class.
>
>Why is it hilarious?  I've said many times that there was no class thing
>in my hs because there wasn't much diversity.   -- Natalie

It's hilarious because you were living a life of privilege because of the
very class system that you claim to have not encountered and were then
appalled by.  It's downright disingenuous.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:28:35 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12011
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:28:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11700
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:33:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DA25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:35:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12867820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:41:12 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691fCg23041 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:41:12 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g691f9Q03817
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:41:09 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D299E7D.26440.100F743@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A3F34.F764B8D6@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:41:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Michael E. Macmillan" wrote:

> No, you still don't get it. Unemployment insurance is an employer-paid
> program. The employee does not pay premiums.

Ok, so the employer pays it.  I don't see that as a major point re what
I was saying.  But surely if you worked for a company a while back, then
collected unemployment based on the fact that that company had paid the
premiums, then got other work elsewhere, your benefits based on what
that earlier employer paid in premiums for you would be gone.  That was
where my timeline confusion was.  I had thought Karen was still
collecting on the basis of Dell, whether she personally paid the
premiums or Dell did.  What I understand now is that she had a later
employer, who presumably paid the premiums to enable her to have
unemployment insurance.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:29:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12019
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:29:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DA94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:37:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12867467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:43:17 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691XHg22238 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:33:17 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g691XGUh003024 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:33:16 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207082132550.23015-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:33:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020709013058.8961E81B5@yellow.rahul.net>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> Well, okay - be that way.
>
>Sorry--wait till I get a job, then I'd be happy to mail you all the
>stock you want.
>
>This was a pretty good chicken, for 57 cents/lb. LOTS of meat.

Okay. Keep the recipe.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:30:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12022
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:29:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DA90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:37:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12867868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:43:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691h9g23210 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:43:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BA8547E3C; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 18:43:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709014305.BA8547E3C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:43:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

My Newest Friend called a friend of his when he was over here, and I
talked to My Newest Friend's friend for some time. I'm going to send
him my resume, but there's a hiring freeze, so it's not clear that
this will result in anything. However, when we talked, it seemed like
he has <needs> that I can fill perfectly, so *I* am crossing *my*
fingers. But I'm not asking you to, yet. This would be using my
(rusty) Japanese skills.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:31:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12034
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:31:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0010366F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:45:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12867950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:45:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691jUg23418 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:45:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3B3BD7D7D; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 18:45:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709014527.3B3BD7D7D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:45:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A3F34.F764B8D6@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  8:41: 8 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> But surely if you worked for a company a while back, then
> collected unemployment based on the fact that that company had paid the
> premiums, then got other work elsewhere, your benefits based on what
> that earlier employer paid in premiums for you would be gone.

No. Not if the 'other work' didn't pay benefits.

> I had thought Karen was still collecting on the basis of Dell,
> whether she personally paid the premiums or Dell did.

I am.

> What I understand now is that she had a later
> employer, who presumably paid the premiums to enable her to have
> unemployment insurance.

You still misunderstand.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:32:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12038
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:32:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DAF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:41:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12867969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:46:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691kag23475 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:46:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CA51B7EF7; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 18:46:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709014635.CA51B7EF7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:46:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207082132550.23015-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 8, 2002  9:33:16 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> >> Well, okay - be that way.
> >
> >Sorry--wait till I get a job, then I'd be happy to mail you all the
> >stock you want.
> >
> >This was a pretty good chicken, for 57 cents/lb. LOTS of meat.
>
> Okay. Keep the recipe.

Jeeze. I haven't eaten it yet, and I haven't finished discussing with
Doris yet. GIVE ME A CHANCE, BETHANY.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:34:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12046
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:33:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DB00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:42:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12867994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:47:47 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691lkg23564 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:47:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g691liQ05580
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:47:45 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207082043180.23015-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A40BF.C48C1546@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:47:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >> I would have been outraged if I had been served a commercial cake for my
> >> birthday.
> >
> >Is this really the first time you've encountered cultural diversity?  I
>
> Thank you for continuing your non sequiturs!

??

> Birthday cakes were not in my famly an ocasion of <normative
> behavior>; one was not required to have either a particular flavor or
> color. But the idea that an adult in my family would pick up a commercial
> cake at a bakery instead of creating something special for a child's
> birthday would have seemed quite rude.

See above.  Your culture was quite different from mine.  A homemade cake
in my culture would have seemed quite rude.  Let me spell it out quite
clearly so that you won't call it a non-sequitur:  In your culture
homemade was <the thing to do>; in my culture store-bought was <the
thing to do>.  This is called a cultural difference.  I get the feeling
you've never encountered one before.

> Commercial cakes were okay for some
> occasions - but not our birthdays. I have no idea what kinds of cakes my
> friends got. I do not recall ever discussing commercial cakes with any of
> them. The basic fact was that commercial cakes were quite inferior.

Hmm.  We're obviously talking about different scenes.  How would you not
know what kinds of cakes your friends got?  Did you not go to birthday
parties?  I'm talking about birthday parties.  I don't remember ever
having a bday cake within my family -- as in it wasn't for a bday party.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:35:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12050
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:35:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DB0B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:44:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12868036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:49:28 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691nSg23669 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:49:28 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g691nOQ06047
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:49:25 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207082049480.23015-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A4123.9B3B5A38@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:49:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >ice-cream machines with a crank and made peach ice cream.  I must admit
> >that I didn't like it much because it had nasty peach globules in it.
>
> I suggest that you use non-nasty peach globules next time you make peach
> ice cream. The result is much better. Or are you simply prejudiced against
> tree-ripened peaches?

I love peaches and eat them fairly often.  I just don't want them in my
ice cream.  I like pure vanilla without foreign objects.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:36:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12054
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:36:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DB22@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:44:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12868071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:50:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691o7g23739 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:50:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 67CC181B7; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 18:50:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709015006.67CC181B7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:50:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A40BF.C48C1546@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  8:47:43 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> I'm talking about birthday parties.  I don't remember ever
> having a bday cake within my family -- as in it wasn't for a bday party.

Didn't you ever have birthday parties in your family?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:43:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12078
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:43:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DB70@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:51:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12868350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:57:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691v2g24399 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:57:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g691uxQ08007
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:57:00 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709010716.9AF41817E@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A42EA.D64D3267@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:56:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> No. I collected unemployment when I left NMSU. Employers of more than

So you collected unemployment on top of the year's salary they gave
you?  How did you manage that?

> > As I said, my only confusion re the timeframe was that I had
> > thought you were still collecting for the premiums you paid while
> > working for Dell.
>
> No, this was not your only confusion. I'm not sure you grasp the basic
> concept.

I understand the concept of insurance.  You (or your employer) pays
premiums so that you can collect benefits if needed.  Is that not the
basic concept?  So NMSU paid premiums for you to gain benefits for six
months even though they had also given you a free year's salary?  That I
don't get at all.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:45:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12093
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:45:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00103772@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:59:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12868427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:59:10 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691x9g24578 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:59:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 19C3180D9; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 18:59:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709015909.19C3180D9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:59:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Speaking of Japanese skills...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

One of the things I learned to do when I lived in Japan was to kill
mosquitoes by clapping my hands together. Do you guys ever do this?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:45:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12099
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:45:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00103775@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:59:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12868431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 21:59:18 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691xIg24584 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:59:18 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g691xEQ08537
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:59:15 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709011824.3FB9A80D9@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A4371.2F982E9@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:59:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > No, all I would think about is the hassle of all those sheets and towels
> > to wash.
>
> Why? Don't you have a washer?

Yes, I do.  But of all the possible inconveniences I can think about re
a large number of houseguests, having to run the washer -- probably
quite a few times for that many people -- is the one that comes to my
mind as the biggest.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:46:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12104
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:46:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00103797@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:00:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12868094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:00:45 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691ojg23774 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:50:45 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g691oiUh007046 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:50:44 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207082148500.23015-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:50:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A40BF.C48C1546@maynor.net>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> Birthday cakes were not in my famly an ocasion of <normative
>> behavior>; one was not required to have either a particular flavor or
>> color. But the idea that an adult in my family would pick up a commercial
>> cake at a bakery instead of creating something special for a child's
>> birthday would have seemed quite rude.
>
>See above.  Your culture was quite different from mine.  A homemade cake
>in my culture would have seemed quite rude.  Let me spell it out quite
>clearly so that you won't call it a non-sequitur:  In your culture
>homemade was <the thing to do>; in my culture store-bought was <the
>thing to do>.  This is called a cultural difference.  I get the feeling
>you've never encountered one before.

No - you do not understand. The place of origin of a birthday cake was
NOT a matter of cultural practice.

>Hmm.  We're obviously talking about different scenes.  How would you not

Absolutely!

>know what kinds of cakes your friends got?  Did you not go to birthday
>parties?  I'm talking about birthday parties.  I don't remember ever
>having a bday cake within my family -- as in it wasn't for a bday party.

Oh, that's a completely different matter.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:47:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12108
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:47:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DBB4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:55:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12868100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:01:23 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g691pNg23798 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:51:23 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g691pMUh007127 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:51:22 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207082150550.23015-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:51:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A4123.9B3B5A38@maynor.net>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I love peaches and eat them fairly often.  I just don't want them in my
>ice cream.  I like pure vanilla without foreign objects.

But vanilla is an okay foreign object?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:48:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12115
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:48:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DBC0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:56:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12868644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:02:06 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69226g24980 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:02:06 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A7ADF7D1F; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 19:02:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709020205.A7ADF7D1F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:02:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A42EA.D64D3267@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  8:56:58 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > No. I collected unemployment when I left NMSU. Employers of more than
>
> So you collected unemployment on top of the year's salary they gave
> you?  How did you manage that?

I applied for it. (After they stopped paying me salary.)

> I understand the concept of insurance.  You (or your employer) pays
> premiums so that you can collect benefits if needed.  Is that not the
> basic concept?  So NMSU paid premiums for you to gain benefits for six
> months even though they had also given you a free year's salary?  That I
> don't get at all.

They were contractually obligated to give me both. They didn't give me
a year's salary out of the kindness of their hearts.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:48:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12119
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:48:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DBC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:56:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12868654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:02:17 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6922Hg24995 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:02:17 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6922FQ09241
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:02:15 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709012453.F325580F3@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A4425.4AE1DF40@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:02:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > > I don't drink regular cola, and this is generic, not Coca Cola, so
> > > probably no one else will drink it.
> >
> > Is Pepsi chopped liver?
>
> It's as expensive as Coca Cola. The point was to save money.

I was responding to what you wrote above -- that whatever this generic
cola was wasn't Coca Cola so probably no one would drink it.  You seemed
to suggest by that that nobody would drink Pepsi.

> How are you going to get FF miles now?!

Huh??  What do ff miles have to do with coke or pepsi?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:50:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12126
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:50:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DBD7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:59:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12868713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:04:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6924Rg25152 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:04:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1FA0C811C; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 19:04:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709020427.1FA0C811C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:04:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A4425.4AE1DF40@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  9: 2:13 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > > I don't drink regular cola, and this is generic, not Coca Cola, so
> > > > probably no one else will drink it.
> > >
> > > Is Pepsi chopped liver?
> >
> > It's as expensive as Coca Cola. The point was to save money.
>
> I was responding to what you wrote above -- that whatever this generic
> cola was wasn't Coca Cola so probably no one would drink it.  You seemed
> to suggest by that that nobody would drink Pepsi.

Pepsi isn't generic.

> > How are you going to get FF miles now?!
>
> Huh??  What do ff miles have to do with coke or pepsi?

I remember something about you using your credit card to pay for cokes.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:54:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12139
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:53:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DBFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:02:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12868811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:07:51 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6927pg25375 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:07:51 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6927mQ10713
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:07:49 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708124440.675B47CC7@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D299289.10044291@maynor.net> <3D299F78.80907@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708192854.00a05270@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708213316.00a1b8a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A4573.EB3BF587@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:07:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> >Why is it hilarious?  I've said many times that there was no class thing
> >in my hs because there wasn't much diversity.   -- Natalie
>
> It's hilarious because you were living a life of privilege because of the
> very class system that you claim to have not encountered and were then
> appalled by.  It's downright disingenuous.

Sorry, but I've read what you said three times now and can't make sense
of it.  What did my "life of privilege" have to do with "the class
system"?  And what does "you claim to have not encountered" mean?  I
sincerely didn't know anything about classes until later in life.  And
what does disingenous mean in this context?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:54:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12149
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:54:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DC05@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:03:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12868839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:08:40 -0400
Received: from mail.infochan.com (mail.infochan.com [208.52.68.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6928cg25436 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:08:39 -0400
Received: from [192.168.254.13] ([208.138.22.79]) by mail.infochan.com
          (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with
          ESMTP id com for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:08:32
          -0500
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B94FAFC5.E7ED%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:08:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

On 8/7/2002 2:04 PM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:

>> And I don't think you should feel bad about censoring yourself. It's a good
>> communication skill to take your audience into account.
>
> This reads suspiciously like a euphemism for "dumbing down."

The term "dumbing down" reads suspiciously like a pejorative for
accommodating those about whom we do not care.

> I don't
> approve of using obscure or long words to impress or befuddle but I
> wouldn't include "niggardly" in those categories.  Among other places, it
> is used in Tolkien.

Whether you would include "niggardly" in the obscure category is, I submit,
irrelevant. It is what the audience thinks that matters. Or not.

And of course, it is not simply a question of obscurity, but the fact that
with this word there is a chance of confusion with a similar sounding word
usage of which is generally deemed <wrong>. And that that confusion may well
have the effect of distancing the speaker/writer from members of the
audience so confused.

What Tolkien has to do with anything only Sauron knows.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:56:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12156
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:56:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DC17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:04:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12868888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:10:05 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692A5g25602 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:10:05 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6929xQ11185
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:09:59 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709015006.67CC181B7@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A45F5.DB2023E2@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:09:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Didn't you ever have birthday parties in your family?

No.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:58:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12163
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:58:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010384C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:11:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12868969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:11:59 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692Bxg25748 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:11:59 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g692BtQ11727
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:11:56 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207082148500.23015-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A466A.64FBC603@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:11:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> No - you do not understand. The place of origin of a birthday cake was
> NOT a matter of cultural practice.

Then what was it?

> >know what kinds of cakes your friends got?  Did you not go to birthday
> >parties?  I'm talking about birthday parties.  I don't remember ever
> >having a bday cake within my family -- as in it wasn't for a bday party.
>
> Oh, that's a completely different matter.

What is?  I don't know what the antecedent of your "that" is.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:58:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12167
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:58:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DC47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:07:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12869019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:12:51 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692Cpg25883 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:12:51 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g692CnQ11946
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:12:49 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207082150550.23015-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A46A0.2CB2F967@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:12:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >I love peaches and eat them fairly often.  I just don't want them in my
> >ice cream.  I like pure vanilla without foreign objects.
>
> But vanilla is an okay foreign object?

Of course.  It's not lumpy.  You don't bite down on it all of a sudden.
I hate clumps in icecream.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 15:59:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12174
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 15:59:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DC4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:08:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12869037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:13:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692Ddg25944 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:13:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 09CB580D2; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 19:13:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709021338.09CB580D2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:13:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Hey, Marie! (Cold Ginger Chicken)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Is there a name for that technique of putting the raw blueberries into
the cook ones to warm them? Because the sauce for the chicken required
a similar thing--you heat some oil until the salt you throw in it
dissolves, turn it off, *then* throw the scallions it. So they aren't
cooked, per se.

My Newest Friend suggested 'braised', but I don't know that that's right.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:01:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12187
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:01:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DC5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:09:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12869084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:15:21 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692FKg26091 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:15:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1F5AF803F; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 19:15:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709021519.1F5AF803F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:15:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A45F5.DB2023E2@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  9: 9:57 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Didn't you ever have birthday parties in your family?
>
> No.

Well, for me, this is a big part of the misunderstanding. My cohort
couldn't afford birthday parties; they were a family thing for the
most part.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:01:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12191
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:01:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DC61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:10:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12868773 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:15:26 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6925Qg25226 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:05:26 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6925PUh010492 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:05:26 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207082204470.23015-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:05:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020709020427.1FA0C811C@yellow.rahul.net>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> > How are you going to get FF miles now?!
>>
>> Huh??  What do ff miles have to do with coke or pepsi?
>
>I remember something about you using your credit card to pay for cokes.

I remember that too - and I still have never seen a coke machine that
takes a credit card.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:03:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12195
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:03:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DC89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:12:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12869196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:17:41 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692Hfg26291 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:17:41 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g692HcQ13289
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:17:38 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709020427.1FA0C811C@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A47C1.AD1247AC@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:17:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > > > > I don't drink regular cola, and this is generic, not Coca Cola, so
> > > > > probably no one else will drink it.
> > > >
> > > > Is Pepsi chopped liver?
> > >
> > > It's as expensive as Coca Cola. The point was to save money.
> >
> > I was responding to what you wrote above -- that whatever this generic
> > cola was wasn't Coca Cola so probably no one would drink it.  You seemed
> > to suggest by that that nobody would drink Pepsi.
>
> Pepsi isn't generic.

?????  That was my point.  You seemed to be suggesting that the only
non-generic drink was Coca Cola.

> > > How are you going to get FF miles now?!
> >
> > Huh??  What do ff miles have to do with coke or pepsi?
>
> I remember something about you using your credit card to pay for cokes.

Right -- I don't actually use my credit card -- I use my MSU MoneyMate
card.  But I put the money on the MoneyMate card with my credit card.
So I do get ff miles.  (I don't really need any more ff miles, but I
would still do that because of convenience.)  So what does your question
mean?  I will continue to use my Visa card to put money on my MoneyMate
card.  In fact, I need to remember to do that tomorrow.  I noticed on
the cash register in the cafeteria today that my balance is down to a
few dollars now.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:06:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12205
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:06:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DC9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:14:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12869245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:20:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692KCg26450 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:20:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1F6D981DC; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 19:20:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709022008.1F6D981DC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:20:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A47C1.AD1247AC@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002  9:17:37 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > > > > I don't drink regular cola, and this is generic, not Coca Cola, so
> > > > > > probably no one else will drink it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is Pepsi chopped liver?
> > > >
> > > > It's as expensive as Coca Cola. The point was to save money.
> > >
> > > I was responding to what you wrote above -- that whatever this generic
> > > cola was wasn't Coca Cola so probably no one would drink it.  You seemed
> > > to suggest by that that nobody would drink Pepsi.
> >
> > Pepsi isn't generic.
>
> ?????  That was my point.  You seemed to be suggesting that the only
> non-generic drink was Coca Cola.

You are crazy to think I was providing an exhaustive list. In any
case, every web site I looked at specifically said 'Coca Cola'. I
don't know why, so I asked.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:11:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12223
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:11:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DD0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:20:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12869480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:25:39 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g692Pcg27110 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002
          22:25:38 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JMY00161; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:25:32 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JXB00457; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:25:31 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D299E7D.26440.100F743@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
            "Jul 8, 2002  2:15:25 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D29BCAA.1540.176D6E1@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:24:10 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020709012604.13C537D1F@yellow.rahul.net>

On 8 Jul 2002 at 18:26, Karen Kay wrote:

> But it's a benefit, so it's factored into <total compensation>.

>From the employer's point of view, I suppose it is. But I'm not sure something
that is legally mandated--as I suppose it is in Texas, as elsewhere--ought to
be called a benefit. It isn't as though the employer could negotiate it or, in
fact, had any choice in the matter.

   mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:12:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12230
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:12:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DD2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:20:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12869489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:26:11 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692Q8g27144 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:26:09 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-57.panax.com
          [65.114.190.57]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g692Q5j21641 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:26:06
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020708133835.2BEC47FE2@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708200220.00b75d40@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708222521.00b74280@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:26:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <009b01c226e7$9ea04680$360332d1@0018079268>

At 08:26 PM 7/8/2002 -0500, d.m. wrote:
> > The key to retirement is to be able to say each day:  "I will do <one>
> > thing."  Then the busyiness will disappear.
> >
> > cwv
>
>How about . . "I will do one thing."
>
>"I will get up."
>
>       ?????

...and if you can make it, your day is a success...

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:12:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12234
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:12:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DD2B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:20:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12869497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:26:26 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692QPg27166 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:26:25 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYY003VPMS147@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 08 Jul 2002 21:26:25 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207062216040.27024-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D2873EA.3060109@swbell.net> <20020707124524.C35016@pobox.com>
            <3D28A782.50605@swbell.net> <20020707160539.A82962@pobox.com>
            <3D29019B.1050106@swbell.net> <20020708165658.A61088@pobox.com>
Message-ID:  <3D2A4978.6040800@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:24:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: NYTimes.com Article: The New Retirement Comes in Four
              Financial Flavors - extract
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 10:06:03PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>>I have never mentioned that at my local public library, in
>>order to get to the new books section, I have to walk right
>>by a stack on which that Bobo book is shelved.  For some
>>reason, among the dozens of books there, that one book pops
>>out at me.  It screams "Tushar is taunting you!"
>>
>
> <http://samant.com/-/yasowm>
>

LOL.  True.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:13:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12238
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:13:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00103969@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:27:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12869514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:27:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692RDg27250 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:27:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AB89581E0; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 19:27:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709022712.AB89581E0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:27:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29BCAA.1540.176D6E1@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 8, 2002  4:24:10 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 8 Jul 2002 at 18:26, Karen Kay wrote:
> > But it's a benefit, so it's factored into <total compensation>.
>
> >From the employer's point of view, I suppose it is. But I'm not sure something
> that is legally mandated--as I suppose it is in Texas, as elsewhere--ought to
> be called a benefit. It isn't as though the employer could negotiate it or, in
> fact, had any choice in the matter.

But the parties who contracted me didn't pay it. (And were not
required to.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:13:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12242
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:13:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DD38@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:22:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12869532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:27:49 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692Rng27277 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:27:49 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYY003ZDMUD47@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 08 Jul 2002 21:27:49 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <B94F5CC2.E7D2%peterlevy@email.com>
Message-ID:  <3D2A49CC.6030006@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:26:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Levy wrote:


> PS What's a Flivver?


It's a nickname for the Ford Model T.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:16:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12254
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:16:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DD48@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:24:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12869575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:29:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692Txg27371 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:29:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5E1D581EA; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 19:29:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709022958.5E1D581EA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:29:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A49CC.6030006@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 8,
              2002  9:26:20 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Peter Levy wrote:
>
>
> > PS What's a Flivver?
>
>
> It's a nickname for the Ford Model T.

Nah, it's a jalopy. AHD says: "Slang An automobile, especially one
that is small, inexpensive, and old. ETYMOLOGY:Origin unknown."

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:19:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12258
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:19:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DDB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:27:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12869835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:33:21 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g692XLg27640 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002
          22:33:21 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JMY00348; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:33:14 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JXB01105; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:33:14 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D29BCAA.1540.176D6E1@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
            "Jul 8, 2002  4:24:10 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D29BE79.12030.17DE77F@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:31:53 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020709022712.AB89581E0@yellow.rahul.net>

On 8 Jul 2002 at 19:27, Karen Kay wrote:

> But the parties who contracted me didn't pay it. (And were not
> required to.)

No, of course not. I'm not confused.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:20:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12265
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:20:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DDC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:29:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12869869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:34:26 -0400
Received: from mail.infochan.com (mail.infochan.com [208.52.68.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692YOg27709 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:34:25 -0400
Received: from [192.168.254.13] ([208.138.22.79]) by mail.infochan.com
          (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with
          ESMTP id com for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:34:20
          -0500
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B94FB5E2.E863%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:34:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Japanese skills...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020709015909.19C3180D9@yellow.rahul.net>

On 8/7/2002 8:59 PM, Karen Kay wrote:

> One of the things I learned to do when I lived in Japan was to kill
> mosquitoes by clapping my hands together. Do you guys ever do this?

It beats waiting until they've pitched on your neck.

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:21:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12269
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:21:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DDCE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:29:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12869895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:35:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692ZPg27766 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:35:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A9A6281EA; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 19:35:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709023524.A9A6281EA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:35:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tour de France
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D29BE79.12030.17DE77F@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 8, 2002  4:31:53 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 8 Jul 2002 at 19:27, Karen Kay wrote:
> > But the parties who contracted me didn't pay it. (And were not
> > required to.)
>
> No, of course not. I'm not confused.

I know, that was for Natalie.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:22:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12274
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:22:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DDDF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:30:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12869947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:36:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692a4g27833 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:36:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6602A8198; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 19:36:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709023600.6602A8198@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:36:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Japanese skills...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B94FB5E2.E863%peterlevy@email.com> from Peter Levy at "Jul 8,
              2002  9:34:26 pm"

Peter Levy said:
> On 8/7/2002 8:59 PM, Karen Kay wrote:
> > One of the things I learned to do when I lived in Japan was to kill
> > mosquitoes by clapping my hands together. Do you guys ever do this?
>
> It beats waiting until they've pitched on your neck.

They seldom go for my neck, but they looooooove my toes.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:28:21 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12283
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:28:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA12132
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:33:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00103A7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:40:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12870162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:40:23 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692eNg28268 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:40:23 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-57.panax.com
          [65.114.190.57]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g692eLj24543 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:40:22
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708222731.00b7ebf0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:40:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B94FAFC5.E7ED%peterlevy@email.com>

At 09:08 PM 7/8/2002 -0500, peter levy wrote:

>Whether you would include "niggardly" in the obscure category is, I submit,
>irrelevant. It is what the audience thinks that matters. Or not.

This is where we part company.  I have no control over what any "audience"
may think.  He/she/they may not like my hair style or the color of my eyes
or what I am wearing or my accent or lack of the same and this may
influence their interpretation of what I say as much as the words I use.  I
refuse to spend my life trying to accommodate such nonsense--but if you
want to do so, feel free.  And as a matter of fact, it <is> what I think
that matters because to do otherwise is to relinquish control to some sort
of group "intelligence," which generally has been shown to be antithetical
to original thought or creativity.

>And of course, it is not simply a question of obscurity, but the fact that
>with this word there is a chance of confusion with a similar sounding word
>usage of which is generally deemed <wrong>. And that that confusion may well
>have the effect of distancing the speaker/writer from members of the
>audience so confused.

Then the confusion is in the individual or collective minds out there.  Am
I responsible for their errors?  I think not.  And for that matter, who
judges what is <wrong>?  The mob?  Never---unless one wishes to dwell in an
Orwellian state.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:35:11 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12322
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:35:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA12221
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:40:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8DE0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:33:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12870101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:39:05 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692d5g28130 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:39:05 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYY003F9ND4Z7@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 08 Jul 2002 21:39:05 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020708202645.9BEAA7D08@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2A4C6F.1010103@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:37:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Marie Ascher said:
>
>>>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>>>Me, too. Bought cakes taste good, but they aren't for birthdays.
>>>
>>Last year Bruce bought me an Italian rum cake for my birthday. I told him he
>>could get me that same cake every year. Alas! the bakery has since closed.
>>Luckily, this is a very Italian area -- northward migration from the Bronx
>>-- and I'm sure there's another rum cake to be had nearby.
>>
>
> As an adult, there are certain bought cakes I'd accept under any
> circumstances, even a birthday.


Boughten cakes are usually prettier because I'm not much of
a cake decorator -- I want to take a class in that someday.
  I'd wanted to learn from my FIL, who owned bakeries, etc.,
but he died before he got along well enough with his son
that we could visit that way (I figure he could have lived
to be 116 and the two of them still would have been
fighting).  But, my homemade scratch cakes taste better than
anything from a bakery.  I always give the girls a choice on
their birthdays.  They almost always prefer something I've
made for them.  Of course, for school, it has to come from
the store because of the Hep-A precautions.

I had both boughten cakes and homemade cakes for my
birthdays growing up.  My mom isn't much of a baker, but
sometimes she'd throw herself into the effort.  I remember a
series of Carvel ice cream cakes and then later on she found
the perfect hybrid -- a woman who made homemade cakes (out
of her home) but did spectacular artwork on top of them with
  an airbrush and rice paper.  This woman did the cake for
my baby shower -- it was decorated like a carousel with the
carousel, horses, and flowers all 3-D and made of sugar.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:36:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12329
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:36:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8E179@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:44:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12870888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:50:17 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692oHg29604 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:50:17 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYY000R2NVSE7@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 08 Jul 2002 21:50:17 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <B94F2788.E789%peterlevy@mac.com> <3D29D4E0.5070300@swbell.net>
            <3D29F7F4.66364823@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D2A4F10.1080306@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:48:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

John Williams wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>I think they just figure we're all smart enough to know what
>>the word means.
>>
>
>     Not when using it cost the comptroller in the District of Columbia his job a
> few years back.
>


        I don't believe that's germaine to the discussion.





--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:40:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12339
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:40:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00103B71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:54:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12871322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:54:25 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692sPg30164 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:54:25 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g692sNG07583 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:54:23
          -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020709021338.09CB580D2@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001201c226f4$1ec81520$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:55:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Marie! (Cold Ginger Chicken)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> My Newest Friend suggested 'braised', but I don't know that that's
right.
>
> Karen

Wait a moment.  I'm behind the times.
Is "newest friend" the same as what she used
to call her "new friend"?  If there a newer one?
Has the old been discarded and the new one
taken over?  Does the newest one share her
boat?  Does she still have the boat?  Has she
used the boat this summer?  Does the newest
friend help with her weeds?

It's too much . .

        - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:41:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12346
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:41:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00103B89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:55:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12871459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:55:11 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692tAg30306 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:55:10 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYY003OOO3YOJ@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 08 Jul 2002 21:55:10 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020708023118.95FC17D17@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D290095.70702@swbell.net> <3D298335.6B4F3F2@maynor.net>
            <3D299E78.2060105@swbell.net> <3D2A1742.8CF73B4D@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2A5035.7080806@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:53:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:


> Not necessarily.  That's an interesting and complicated question.  On
> the one hand, it's true now that a smart person like you who chooses to
> become an English teacher does so because of a real passion for teaching
> English.  But on the other hand, plenty of smart females who in fact
> would be good English teachers (or teachers of other subjects) don't
> choose it now because there are so many more options -- options that
> might have existed in earlier generations but that would have been
> stranger options to go with.  And that leaves the teaching profession
> open to lots of less smart, less capable, less energetic people --
> people in some cases who lend credence to the old "if you can't do, you
> teach" thing.


A lot of strongly linguistic women become lawyers now, for
example.  Or work in publishing.  But now that the economy
is tanking, I'm seeing a the calibre of people in the ed.
program rise a little bit.  I mean, we still have some true
dipshits (like the young woman who asked last week who Ralph
Nader is), but it appears that the teacher shortage is
attracting people now that there's a high tech worker glut.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:44:30 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12361
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:44:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00103BDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:58:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12871942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 22:58:21 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g692wKg30805 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:58:21 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g692wI506432 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:58:18 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082155400.6383-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:58:18 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A1E5B.61DEE344@maynor.net>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> I don't think "tacky" would be the right word.  "Strange" would be.  I
> can indeed imagine children going home and talking about the terrible
> cake since they would presumably have arrived at the party expecting
> Jitney Jungle cake.  Certainly not all of them would necessarily know
> that bday cakes come from JJ.  But they would recognize an alien cake as
> alien.

Well they must have been memorable, as must have been the homemade cakes.
I can't remember which I had as a kid in various places - it doesn't seem
to be the kind of think I'd remember.  Maybe that means they were all
bakery bought!  That's what I'd do now, if I had to furnish a cake.  Just
Desserts would be my bakery - there's a small hometown bakery in Fairfax
of course but their shit is so -sweet- man they lay on the sugar.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:49:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12379
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:49:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8E7BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:57:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12873948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 23:03:21 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6933Lg32019 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:03:21 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6933J206634 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:03:19 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082159200.6383-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:03:19 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A1852.3720A96F@maynor.net>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> k-12 years.  Or maybe I can't say that.  I didn't know what everybody
> was *thinking*.  But there was no evidence of class-consciousness in my
> school years -- until college.

Hoooeee there sure was in every school I ever attended.  My problem was,
it wasn't ever clear which class I was in.  My parents were educated but
we never had much money.

HEY!  Some kind of memory just hit me.  At some point in my pre adolescent
life, I encountered "the wrong side of the tracks" in something I read.
And I understood it fully.  Because Necedah Wisconsin had a right and a
wrong side of the railroad tracks (but I lived on the wildlife refuge so
was unclassified that way).

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:51:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12386
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:51:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8E8AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:59:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12874601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 23:04:58 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6934wg32330 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:04:58 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6934u506672 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:04:57 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082204110.6383-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:04:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A1138.66F68F5C@maynor.net>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> I didn't put them on anything.  Do the honorees usually have to insert
> the candles themselves?  The candles were put upon glorious birthday
> cakes with white icing and lots of colorful decorations, usually green
> for me because of St. Patrick's Day.  I love bday cakes -- if they're
> what I consider <real> bday cakes.  I don't want any homemade
> substitute.

You still hold to your childhood judgments in that way?

JEEZ NATALIE GROW UP

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:53:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12416
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:53:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8E9B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:01:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12875334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 23:07:02 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69372g32752 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:07:02 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g69371G20378 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:07:01
          -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020709015909.19C3180D9@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <004001c226f5$e23d33e0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:08:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Japanese skills...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> One of the things I learned to do when I lived in Japan was to kill
> mosquitoes by clapping my hands together. Do you guys ever do this?
>
> Karen

Yes.

  - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 16:56:47 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12420
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 16:56:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA12444
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:01:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8EA5E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:04:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12875823 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 23:09:47 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6939lg00620 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:09:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws148-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.148]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6939iQ26738
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:09:44 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082155400.6383-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A53F6.BA1E951D@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:09:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> > Jitney Jungle cake.  Certainly not all of them would necessarily know
> > that bday cakes come from JJ.  But they would recognize an alien cake as
> > alien.
>
> Well they must have been memorable, as must have been the homemade cakes.

I have no memories of homemade cakes.  I've tasted them upon occasion
later in life but not during childhood.  Cake is not at the top of my
list of favorite foods, but I prefer store-bought.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 17:03:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12444
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 17:03:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8EAC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:11:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12876107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 23:17:13 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g693HDg01096 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:17:13 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g693AFI06804 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:10:15 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082209130.6731-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:10:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207082043180.23015-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> >Is this really the first time you've encountered cultural diversity?  I
>
> Thank you for continuing your non sequiturs!

Bethany I do wish you would reconsider your ironic use of "thank you."

TIA!  )barf(

Ann

>
> >feel sure that if I had grown up in whatever your town was and homemade
> >cakes had been the birthday norm, then I would have found it
> >embarrassing to have a different kind of cake -- just as you would have
> >if you had grown up in my town.
>
> Birthday cakes were not in my famly an ocasion of <normative
> behavior>; one was not required to have either a particular flavor or
> color. But the idea that an adult in my family would pick up a commercial
> cake at a bakery instead of creating something special for a child's
> birthday would have seemed quite rude. Commercial cakes were okay for some
> occasions - but not our birthdays. I have no idea what kinds of cakes my
> friends got. I do not recall ever discussing commercial cakes with any of
> them. The basic fact was that commercial cakes were quite inferior.
>
> Bethany
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 17:03:30 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12452
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 17:03:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00103E7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:17:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12876114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 23:17:14 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g693HEg01103 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:17:14 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g693CeO06963 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:12:40 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082211560.6731-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:12:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708213316.00a1b8a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, bonniev wrote:

> It's hilarious because you were living a life of privilege because of the
> very class system that you claim to have not encountered and were then
> appalled by.  It's downright disingenuous.
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is a very good phrase.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 17:03:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12457
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 17:03:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00103E85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:17:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12876178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 23:17:32 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g693HVg01229 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:17:31 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g693GeE07060 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:16:40 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082215490.6731-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:16:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A4F10.1080306@swbell.net>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:

>         I don't believe that's germaine to the discussion.
                                 ^^^^^^^^

I can't believe that's how it's spelled.

lazily
Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 17:04:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12461
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 17:04:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8EADF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:12:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12876221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 23:18:07 -0400
Received: from mail.infochan.com (mail.infochan.com [208.52.68.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g693I5g01335 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:18:06 -0400
Received: from [192.168.254.13] ([208.138.22.79]) by mail.infochan.com
          (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with
          ESMTP id com for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:18:01
          -0500
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B94FC01E.E876%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:18:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708204858.5F26E7F54@yellow.rahul.net>

On 8/7/2002 3:48 PM, Karen Kay wrote:

> Peter Levy said:
>> On 8/7/2002 3:37 PM, John Williams wrote:
>>>> I think they just figure we're all smart enough to know what
>>>> the word means.
>>>
>>>   Not when using it cost the comptroller in the District of Columbia his job
>>> a
>>> few years back.
>>
>> He resigned and then was offered back his job a week or two later. He took
>> up the offer but asked to be re-assigned to a different post. He had been
>> the director of the Office of the Public Advocate.
>
> Is this word an <issue> for you, Peter?

The issue is of interest. I remember the media reports, I remember initially
having the reaction that this was PC-ness gone mad. But at the same time I
looked up the word "niggardly" to see whether there was any connection. And
that made me wonder whether it does really matter whether or not the two
words are related. I mean, the 'rightness' or 'wrongness' of using it surely
can't depend on an obscure etymological detail, can it?


--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 17:04:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12465
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 17:04:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8EAE1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:13:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12876228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 23:18:29 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g693ISg01358 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:18:28 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g693IRf07087 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:18:27 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082217160.6731-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:18:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082155400.6383-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:

> Well they must have been memorable, as must have been the homemade cakes.
> I can't remember which I had as a kid in various places - it doesn't seem
> to be the kind of think I'd remember.  Maybe that means they were all
                    ^^^^^

Thing, of course.  But lately I've been noticing a lot of automatic macros
as I start typing.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 17:15:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12494
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 17:15:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8EB4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:23:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12876507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 23:29:07 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g693T7g02020 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:29:07 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws148-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.148]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g693T5Q01163
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:29:05 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2A587F.5C5313A@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:29:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I just looked at the archives and saw tons of mail I haven't gotten.
That is strange.  I sometimes worry about wojo since it's not a real
server -- it's sort of a low-key thing.

I need to go to bed but do want to mention a couple of things that have
pissed me off in the recent discussion (or at least that of it that I've
seen):

(1) I find it strange and annoying that some people have concluded that
I associate cakes with <class>, whatever that means.  I have no
association of any kind of cakes with <class>.  I do have an association
from childhood of cakes with obesity.  That's because in my growing-up
years "a cake-baker" was another way of saying "a fat person."  I am
certainly not suggesting that that was either a kind or an accuate thing
for people to say.  Obviously not all cake-bakers are fat, and why would
somebody want to say that kind of thing anyway.  Yet it is still my
association when I hear something about baking cakes.

(2) After the topic of <class> matters arose, I was again struck by what
I see as some kind of reverse snobbery or whatever on Words-L.  I
shudder to think about all the apologizing I would be expected to do
here if my family had been higher than middle-middle or lower-middle in
money.  It's bad enough that I seem to be expected to apologize for the
fact that my family valued education and that I lived in a neighborhood
full of other people who did also.  The Words-L way is to have picked
cotton in Texas or whatever it was Bethany did or to have had a mother
working six jobs or whatever it was that Rita said.  And then there's
the pride of Words-L -- she who leaped from her sad situation into a
convent in order to be educated so that she could achieve the pinnacle
of career success that she's obviously achieved.  All this poor-mouth
pride gets tedious, imho.  What's so wrong with having parents who
thought going to college was the normal thing to do?

In any case, none of that has anything to do with cakes.  I must admit
that in addition to being annoyed I'm a bit amused by the cake
thoughts.  I was already laughing when Karen got onto her roll about the
importance of cake-baking.  Then I laughed some more, though was also
annoyed, when this class thing arose.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 17:22:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12500
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 17:22:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8EBBC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:31:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12876744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 23:36:30 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g693aTg02580 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:36:29 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA11228
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Mon, 8 Jul 2002
          20:36:28 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 323AC97004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon,  8 Jul 2002 20:36:28 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 11224 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2002 03:36:27 -0000
Received: from p22.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.69?) (66.237.73.69) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 9 Jul 2002 03:36:27 -0000
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020708124509.00a0fec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from    
            bonniev at "Jul 8, 2002 12:45:43 pm"
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Moment-Of-Dada: But will they have fireworks fish swimming under a fireworks
                  waterfall?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130301b950049c5d9e@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:36:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708170903.D20007C87@yellow.rahul.net>

>> Yes, alyce.  Exactly.  This is part of the training of little Southern
>> children.
>
>Or snobs. It makes me understand Natalie's RRB better.
>
>Karen

I think you're on the wrong track here.  From what Natalie has told us of
her growing up years, it seems to me that her entire town was obsessed, not
with snobbery, but with conformity.  Not even the smallest pre-schooler was
allowed to look a little bit different from her peers (much less think a
little bit differently than her peers) without half the town tsk-tsking.

Ken Miller
Social Correspondent
The Lostin Times

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 17:27:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12507
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 17:27:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8EC02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:36:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12876854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 23:41:40 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g693fdg02891 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:41:39 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g693faNa031436 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:41:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020708203323.00a2ee70@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:41:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A587F.5C5313A@maynor.net>

We always just talked as if college was the next step. You finished high
school, making sure you obtained all the courses needed to get into a
university, and you went to college. Neither kid argued and they just did
it.  I never would have forced it, however.

Parents need to value education.

I always thought the store bought cakes were pitiful unless you had a
really good bakery in town. Just Desserts rules!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 17:38:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12541
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 17:38:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8EC78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:46:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12877144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 23:51:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g693pwg03584 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:51:58 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EBFCE7E06; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 20:51:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709035157.EBFCE7E06@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:51:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A4C6F.1010103@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 8,
              2002  9:37:35 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Boughten cakes are usually prettier because I'm not much of
> a cake decorator -- I want to take a class in that someday.

My Mom used to make shaped cakes--the kind where you make a cake and
then cut the pieces into, like, a rabbit or something.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 17:43:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12546
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 17:43:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8ECCE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:52:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12877384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Jul
          2002 23:57:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g693vRg03954 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:57:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5F4987E46; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 20:57:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709035726.5F4987E46@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:57:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Marie! (Cold Ginger Chicken)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <001201c226f4$1ec81520$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 8, 2002  9:55:44 pm"

Doris Markland said:
> Is "newest friend" the same as what she used
> to call her "new friend"?

No.

> If there a newer one?

Yes. I think I will call him *er*.

> Has the old been discarded and the new one
> taken over?

No.

> Does the newest one share her boat?

He sails--but his mast broke.

> Does she still have the boat?

Yes.

> Has she used the boat this summer?

No--it's still broken.

> Does the newest
> friend help with her weeds?

Not weeds, but he changed my porch light bulb for me, and got rid of
some wasp nests. And found me a toad.

> It's too much . .

There's only two of them, Doris.

Interestingly, they have both lived in Venezuela.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 17:55:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12580
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 17:55:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0010417F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 0:09:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12879396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 00:09:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6948dg05650 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:08:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DDDC97D6D; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 21:08:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709040835.DDDC97D6D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:08:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082217160.6731-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 8, 2002 10:18:27 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> Thing, of course.  But lately I've been noticing a lot of automatic macros
> as I start typing.

Finger macros! Neuromacros?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 17:55:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12582
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 17:55:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00104180@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 0:09:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12877179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 00:09:10 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f266.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.144]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g693qmg03660 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:52:48 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          8 Jul 2002 20:52:42 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 09
          Jul 2002 03:52:42 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jul 2002 03:52:42.0705 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[13E2F410:01C226FC]
Message-ID:  <F266OPXaq2hIQTfRNQz00007c20@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 03:52:42 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie:

> > I'm calling it a tie. Both sides appear equally vehement.

>Huh?  I'm not vehement at all about whether it's a <good or bad thing>
>to bake cakes.  All I've said is that baking cakes is something I've
>never done, something my mother has never done, something my > grandmother
>probably never did, and something that wasn't <done> for bday parties in
>my particular schools.

Your posts this morning about only having eaten cakes from
one store sounded pretty fierce.

-rashmi


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 17:56:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12591
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 17:56:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001041A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 0:09:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12878969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 00:09:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6942xg05094 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:02:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 606C480C3; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 21:02:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709040257.606C480C3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:02:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082215490.6731-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 8, 2002 10:16:40 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> >         I don't believe that's germaine to the discussion.
>                                  ^^^^^^^^
>
> I can't believe that's how it's spelled.
>
> lazily
> Ann

Only if you're Germaine Greer.

germane to the discussion.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 17:56:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12595
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 17:56:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001041B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 0:10:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12879268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 00:09:06 -0400
Received: from mail.infochan.com (mail.infochan.com [208.52.68.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6946ag05406 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:06:36 -0400
Received: from [192.168.254.13] ([208.138.22.79]) by mail.infochan.com
          (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with
          ESMTP id com for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:06:32
          -0500
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B94FCB7C.E880%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:06:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708183813.BBD6081BD@yellow.rahul.net>

On 8/7/2002 1:38 PM, Karen Kay wrote:

> Btw, Peter, I recreated to my (personal) satisfaction the ginger drink
> I was talking about. I have a ginger plant right outside my front
> door, and I'm sure I'll be raiding it in the future.

How did you make it?

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 17:56:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12599
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 17:56:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001041BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 0:10:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12879375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 00:09:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6947cg05515 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:07:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4F5038090; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 21:07:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709040737.4F5038090@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:07:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B94FC01E.E876%peterlevy@email.com> from Peter Levy at "Jul 8,
              2002 10:18: 6 pm"

Peter Levy said:
> > Is this word an <issue> for you, Peter?
>
> The issue is of interest.

Okay. I wasn't sure whether you were chastising me indirectly or
what. I'm not going to apologize for using the word in this company.

> I remember the media reports, I remember initially
> having the reaction that this was PC-ness gone mad. But at the same time I
> looked up the word "niggardly" to see whether there was any connection. And
> that made me wonder whether it does really matter whether or not the two
> words are related. I mean, the 'rightness' or 'wrongness' of using it surely
> can't depend on an obscure etymological detail, can it?

*I* don't think so, but lots of people do. And since it's easily
identifiable, how obscure is it really?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 17:57:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12603
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 17:57:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00104215@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 0:11:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12879684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 00:11:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g694BRg06120 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:11:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 331148090; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 21:11:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709041126.331148090@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:11:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A587F.5C5313A@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 8,
              2002 10:29: 3 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> I was already laughing when Karen got onto her roll about the
> importance of cake-baking.

I must have missed that.

I don't think cake-baking is important, but I do think it's something
that most people have done.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 17:59:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12607
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 17:59:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010422A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 0:13:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12879791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 00:13:16 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g694DGg06386 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:13:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8BE288090; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 21:13:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709041315.8BE288090@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:13:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130301b950049c5d9e@[198.144.202.197]> from Bookrat at "Jul 8,
              2002  8:36:19 pm"

Bookrat said:
> I think you're on the wrong track here.

In hindsight, I agree.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 18:00:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12617
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 18:00:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8F10E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 0:09:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12879933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 00:14:27 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g694ERg06545 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:14:27 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g694EQD08918 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:14:26 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082313210.8737-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:14:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A53F6.BA1E951D@maynor.net>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> > > Jitney Jungle cake.  Certainly not all of them would necessarily know
> > > that bday cakes come from JJ.  But they would recognize an alien cake as
> > > alien.
> >
> > Well they must have been memorable, as must have been the homemade cakes.
>
> I have no memories of homemade cakes.  I've tasted them upon occasion
> later in life but not during childhood.  Cake is not at the top of my
> list of favorite foods, but I prefer store-bought.

I *know* you have no memories of homemade cakes, Natalie!  Jeez, I've been
reading the posts!

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 18:01:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12623
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 18:01:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8F129@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 0:10:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12880029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 00:15:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g694Fhg06732 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:15:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9E8178142; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 21:15:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709041542.9E8178142@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:15:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Marie! (Cold Ginger Chicken)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020709035726.5F4987E46@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at
              "Jul 8, 2002  8:57:26 pm"

Karen Kay said:
> There's only two of them, Doris.

And now I want to notify you that to avoid confusion, I am officially
changing My Newest Friend's name to *er*.

> Interestingly, they have both lived in Venezuela.

This is still true.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 18:07:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12633
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 18:07:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001042BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 0:21:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12880448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 00:21:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g694LOg07428 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:21:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5E1047F85; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 21:20:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709042046.5E1047F85@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:20:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B94FCB7C.E880%peterlevy@email.com> from Peter Levy at "Jul 8,
              2002 11: 6:36 pm"

Peter Levy said:
> On 8/7/2002 1:38 PM, Karen Kay wrote:
> > Btw, Peter, I recreated to my (personal) satisfaction the ginger drink
> > I was talking about. I have a ginger plant right outside my front
> > door, and I'm sure I'll be raiding it in the future.
>
> How did you make it?

Brought water to boiling, popped in a mass of sliced ginger, then let
it steep for an hour. Strained it, refrigerated it. When I was ready
to drink it, I took a glass, put some ice in, poured the ginger stuff
over, added lemon or lime juice, and a small amount of sugar.

I remembered that the original stuff I drank involved sugar cane.

*er* said I should use...something with bubbles. I don't remember
what, now. And I think he's right. (Instead of ice.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 18:10:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12640
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 18:10:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8F1F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 0:19:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12880571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 00:24:34 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g694OXg07705 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:24:33 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA16877
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Mon, 8 Jul 2002
          21:24:32 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9485A97005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon,  8 Jul 2002 21:24:31 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 16868 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2002 04:24:30 -0000
Received: from p34.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.69?) (66.237.73.81) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 9 Jul 2002 04:24:30 -0000
References: <3D2A587F.5C5313A@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Moment-Of-Dada: But will they have fireworks fish swimming under a fireworks
                  waterfall?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130308b950114155f8@[66.237.73.69]>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:24:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020708203323.00a2ee70@uclink.berkeley.edu>

>We always just talked as if college was the next step. You finished high
>school, making sure you obtained all the courses needed to get into a
>university, and you went to college. Neither kid argued and they just did
>it.

My parents did the same thing.  Looking back, I wish I'd had enough
gumption to argue.  I needed a wanderjahr, and would have taken one if I'd
known that such a thing existed.

>Parents need to value education.

>Betty

What the hell does "college" have to do with "education"?

Ken Miller
Educational Correspondent
The Lostin Times

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 18:13:45 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12647
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 18:13:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0010430B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 0:27:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12880704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 00:27:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g694R5g07981 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:27:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 731617DE0; Mon,  8
          Jul 2002 21:27:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709042704.731617DE0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:27:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130308b950114155f8@[66.237.73.69]> from Bookrat at "Jul 8,
              2002  9:24:22 pm"

Bookrat said:
> >We always just talked as if college was the next step. You finished high
> >school, making sure you obtained all the courses needed to get into a
> >university, and you went to college. Neither kid argued and they just did
> >it.
>
> My parents did the same thing.  Looking back, I wish I'd had enough
> gumption to argue.  I needed a wanderjahr, and would have taken one if I'd
> known that such a thing existed.

That's why I flunked out, in essence. My parents wouldn't see the
value of taking time off.

> >Parents need to value education.
>
> >Betty
>
> What the hell does "college" have to do with "education"?

Indeed.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 18:13:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12652
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 18:13:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8F221@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 0:22:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12880710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 00:27:33 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g694R7g07985 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:27:07 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g694R5G04946 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:27:05
          -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020709035157.EBFCE7E06@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <009501c22701$11d02760$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:28:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> My Mom used to make shaped cakes--the kind where you make a cake and
> then cut the pieces into, like, a rabbit or something.
>
> Karen

My grandmother made very special  cakes
for me.  She had little pans in the shape of
hearts, spades, clubs and diamonds.  She made
a light cake, baked it in the little pans, turned them
out and  frosted them with 7-minute icing, all
swirled and shiny.  They tasted just heavenly.
I inherited and still have those pans.

            - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 19:16:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12726
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 19:16:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001046A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 1:30:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12884640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 01:30:06 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g695U5g15552 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 01:30:05 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g695U4G29580 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:30:04
          -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020709013410.1580881B3@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001301c22709$ddf7f900$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:31:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> And this was... uh... 25 years ago. So how would you describe what you
> call "cold ginger chicken".
>
> Karen

Pieces of cold chicken that taste like ginger.

           - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 19:26:14 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12732
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 19:26:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13480
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:27:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E8FF00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 1:29:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12884816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 01:35:07 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g695Z7g15983 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002
          01:35:07 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JNE00341; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 01:35:01 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JXH00932; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 01:35:00 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D29E990.96.9F586@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:35:44 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Not too bad
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The BatFest T shirt showed up today. The white one. Not too bad, but not
worth a rave notice either. The shirt itself is your garden variety Hanes Beefy
T 100 percent cotton item. The front image strikes me as a bit too small. The
images seem to have transferred well, with only an occasional imperfection.
The type that leaned toward yellow on my monitor printed with a more orange
cast, but that doesn't seem too bad to my eye.

     mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 22:25:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13175
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 22:25:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00104F0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 4:39:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12891707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 04:39:06 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g698T6g32501 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 04:29:06 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g698T5Uh029144 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 04:29:05 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207090428340.25983-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 04:29:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B94FAFC5.E7ED%peterlevy@email.com>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Peter Levy wrote:

>And of course, it is not simply a question of obscurity, but the fact that
>with this word there is a chance of confusion with a similar sounding word
>usage of which is generally deemed <wrong>. And that that confusion may well
>have the effect of distancing the speaker/writer from members of the
>audience so confused.

What is the <similar sounding word>?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 22:26:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13182
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 22:26:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E945A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 4:34:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12891726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 04:40:12 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g698UCg32590 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 04:30:12 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g698UCUh029267 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 04:30:12 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207090429470.25983-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 04:30:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A466A.64FBC603@maynor.net>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> No - you do not understand. The place of origin of a birthday cake was
>> NOT a matter of cultural practice.
>
>Then what was it?

Personal choice.

>> >know what kinds of cakes your friends got?  Did you not go to birthday
>> >parties?  I'm talking about birthday parties.  I don't remember ever
>> >having a bday cake within my family -- as in it wasn't for a bday party.
>>
>> Oh, that's a completely different matter.
>
>What is?  I don't know what the antecedent of your "that" is.

<birthday parties>

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 22:33:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13197
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 22:33:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E94817@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 4:41:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12891836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 04:46:50 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g698ang00433 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 04:36:49 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g698anUh030403 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 04:36:49 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207090436020.25983-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 04:36:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A53F6.BA1E951D@maynor.net>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I have no memories of homemade cakes.  I've tasted them upon occasion
>later in life but not during childhood.  Cake is not at the top of my
>list of favorite foods, but I prefer store-bought.

That is WAY WAY weird! Store-bought was inferior - necessary sometimes,
but clearly inferior.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  2 22:33:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13204
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 2 Jun 1960 22:33:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9484A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 4:41:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12891837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 04:47:25 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g698bPg00479 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 04:37:25 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g698bOUh030550 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 04:37:24 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207090437080.25983-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 04:37:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082209130.6731-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:

>Bethany I do wish you would reconsider your ironic use of "thank you."

Why?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 01:56:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13443
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 01:56:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E98196@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 8:04:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12896540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 08:10:26 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69CAPg29313 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:10:26 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws70-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.70]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69CAKQ03338
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:10:21 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709021519.1F5AF803F@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2AD2A4.A3347EA8@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:10:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Well, for me, this is a big part of the misunderstanding. My cohort
> couldn't afford birthday parties; they were a family thing for the
> most part.

I don't remember now what cohort you're referring to, but I don't know
what a family birthday party would be.  My family was together every
day, as in eating meals together (except for lunches when we children
were at school or the occasional time one of us was at somebody's house
or whatever), seeing each other, etc.  To me a "party" means that people
are invited to come to your house (or possibly some other site) at a
particular time -- people who wouldn't be there normally.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 02:00:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13464
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 02:00:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E981F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 8:08:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12896662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 08:13:57 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69CDvg29596 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:13:57 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws70-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.70]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69CDtQ03971
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:13:55 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708202645.9BEAA7D08@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2A4C6F.1010103@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2AD382.54EC8900@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:13:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> Boughten cakes are usually prettier because I'm not much of
> a cake decorator -- I want to take a class in that someday.

Cake-making is apparently a very profitable business.  A person I know
in Huntsville took some classes in cake-decorating, then started doing
informal selling of cakes, discovered that she could sell them for
*HUGE* amounts of money -- we're talking hundreds of dollars now, got
overwhelmed with orders, quit her regular job, contracted with the most
expensive restaurant in town to provide their cakes, and has made
fortunes.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 02:09:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13472
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 02:09:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E98382@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 8:17:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12897145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 08:23:01 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69CN1g30847 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:23:01 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws70-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.70]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69CMxQ05375
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:22:59 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082159200.6383-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2AD5A2.802860C4@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:22:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:
> > k-12 years.  Or maybe I can't say that.  I didn't know what everybody
> > was *thinking*.  But there was no evidence of class-consciousness in my
> > school years -- until college.
>
> Hoooeee there sure was in every school I ever attended.  My problem was,

As I think I've said before, I don't know which way is better.  Some of
us were talking about this at our reunion last year and reached no firm
conclusion on it.  In a way, it was nice not to be aware of <social
class> in hs.  Otoh, we were in for surprises and possible
disillusionment later in life.  (Some people no doubt enjoyed
discovering the class system.  I didn't.)  Anyway, I did have a sort of
envy of my college friends who were from smaller towns and had therefore
known a much larger segment of society in their childhoods.  It gave
them a more realistic view of the world.  This is all talking about
whites, of course.  For all of us, the schools we went to were white
only.  But in smaller towns there was also more intermingling of blacks
and whites (outside of school).  Cities tend to isolate segments of
their populations more than small towns do.

> HEY!  Some kind of memory just hit me.  At some point in my pre adolescent
> life, I encountered "the wrong side of the tracks" in something I read.
> And I understood it fully.  Because Necedah Wisconsin had a right and a
> wrong side of the railroad tracks (but I lived on the wildlife refuge so
> was unclassified that way).

One of my college roommates grew up in that kind of town -- Greenwood,
MS.  She said it was literally separated by railroad tracks, just as
you're describing.  Being the Delta, that would be a huge split, or at
least that was the case back then.  Delta (white) society was sort of
like medieval England -- upper and lower classes without a middle.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 02:13:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13488
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 02:13:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9842F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 8:21:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12897415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 08:27:17 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69CRHg31427 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:27:17 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws70-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.70]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69CREQ06155
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:27:15 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082204110.6383-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2AD6A1.3C3654CE@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:27:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> > for me because of St. Patrick's Day.  I love bday cakes -- if they're
> > what I consider <real> bday cakes.  I don't want any homemade
> > substitute.
>
> You still hold to your childhood judgments in that way?
>
> JEEZ NATALIE GROW UP

Why should one be forced to change one's tastes in food in order to grow
up?  When I talk about cake, I'm really talking about icing, of course.
Cake is cake -- the stuff you put up with to enjoy the icing.  My
favorite icing is bday cake icing -- white icing with curls and swirls
and flowers (in different colors) and pictures, etc.  Sometimes it's
served in the cafeteria.  And sometimes somebody at our table will buy a
bday cake at the bakery and bring it to lunch to honor one of us.  Ditto
my office -- we used to have bday cake sitting in the main office on
Groundhog Day every year because of a colleague whose bday was that
day.  I remember trying to find a picture of a groundhog to take to the
bakery one year to request a cake with a groundhog on it.  They did a
good job at creating the groundhog.  The MSU bakery is very good -- and
amazingly inexpensive.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 02:16:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13500
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 02:16:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E984A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 8:25:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12897540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 08:30:30 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69CUUg31812 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:30:30 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws70-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.70]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69CUSQ06794
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:30:28 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082211560.6731-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2AD763.21F674A@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:30:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:
>
> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, bonniev wrote:
>
> > It's hilarious because you were living a life of privilege because of the
> > very class system that you claim to have not encountered and were then
> > appalled by.  It's downright disingenuous.
>                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> This is a very good phrase.

And here I am faced again with trying to figure out what Bonnie meant by
the above.  Is the point that I should have been able to figure out
somehow during childhood that I was leading a <privileged> life and to
take action on that by fleeing from it to a convent?  Would it have
mattered that I wasn't Catholic?  What else should I have done to
escape?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 02:20:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13511
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 02:20:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E98523@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 8:28:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12897755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 08:33:52 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69CXqg32244 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:33:52 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-129.panax.com
          [65.114.190.129]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g69CXoj15405 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:33:50
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020708124440.675B47CC7@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D299289.10044291@maynor.net> <3D299F78.80907@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708192854.00a05270@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708213316.00a1b8a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020709082813.009fe7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:32:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2A4573.EB3BF587@maynor.net>

>Sorry, but I've read what you said three times now and can't make sense
>of it.  What did my "life of privilege" have to do with "the class
>system"?  And what does "you claim to have not encountered" mean?  I
>sincerely didn't know anything about classes until later in life.  And
>what does disingenous mean in this context?
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

O.k.  I'll play for awhile.  The fact that you went to a very good high
school was partly because things were set up in Mississippi at that time so
that the poorer and slower students had to go to another school.  This is a
class system.  You didn't have to go slower in your lessons in order to
accommodate those who were less culturally advantaged.

You posted originally that you did not encounter the class system until you
got to college when actually you were living in a very segregated system by
class and by race from the moment you were born.  You had very much
encountered it although you were so isolated in your thinking and status
that it didn't seem to you like people were being judged or separated on
the basis of class.

Now you know differently or you ought to.  But still you post as if you
were this innocent in your youth, unaware that some people are privileged
while others are disadvantaged based on the class they are born into.  That
is disingenuous.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 02:26:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13515
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 02:26:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E98611@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 8:35:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12898042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 08:40:31 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69CeVg00579 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:40:31 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-129.panax.com
          [65.114.190.129]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g69CeUj16589 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:40:30
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020709021338.09CB580D2@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020709083904.009ef240@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:40:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Marie! (Cold Ginger Chicken)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <001201c226f4$1ec81520$360332d1@0018079268>

>Wait a moment.  I'm behind the times.
>Is "newest friend" the same as what she used
>to call her "new friend"?  If there a newer one?
>Has the old been discarded and the new one
>taken over?  Does the newest one share her
>boat?  Does she still have the boat?  Has she
>used the boat this summer?  Does the newest
>friend help with her weeds?        - D. M.

Excellent questions.  Call her up, Doris, and ask.
512-977-8817  Report back to the rest of us.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 02:32:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13534
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 02:32:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E986FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 8:41:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12898355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 08:46:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69CkTg01440 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:46:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws76-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.76]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69CkQQ09601
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:46:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020708124509.00a0fec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
            bonniev at "Jul 8, 2002 12:45:43 pm" 
            <v03130301b950049c5d9e@[198.144.202.197]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2ADB21.2FA14858@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:46:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bookrat wrote:

> I think you're on the wrong track here.  From what Natalie has told us of
> her growing up years, it seems to me that her entire town was obsessed, not
> with snobbery, but with conformity.  Not even the smallest pre-schooler was

I certainly can't say what obsessions existed in my <entire town>.  I
knew almost nothing about West Jackson or South Jackson, for example.  I
had no occasion/opportunity to know what was going on in places far from
where I lived.  Conformity certainly ruled in my part of town.  I don't
think that's all that unusual for children, though.  Isn't that what
some of the commentators have been talking about re things like prayers
or "under God" in schools -- that most children don't like being
<different> among their peers, like refusing to say or do or sing what
everybody else is saying, doing, singing?  Although I think this is
probably still true for younger children, I'm not as sure about
teenagers of today.  I think the '60s might have changed views or habits
somewhat -- when supposed nonconformity became <in>.  Fads in clothes
and other matters obviously still exist among teenagers and no doubt
always will, but at least to outside eyes there doesn't seem to be as
much alikeness in things like attire as there was in the '50s.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 02:35:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13541
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 02:34:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00105CC6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 8:48:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12898464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 08:48:37 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69Cmbg01727 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:48:37 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws76-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.76]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69CmYQ10013
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:48:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020708203323.00a2ee70@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2ADBA1.2E46A3F9@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:48:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:
>
> We always just talked as if college was the next step. You finished high
> school, making sure you obtained all the courses needed to get into a
> university, and you went to college. Neither kid argued and they just did
> it.  I never would have forced it, however.

That's exactly how I grew up.  The idea of arguing wouldn't have
occurred to me any more than it would have occurred to me to say at the
end of the sixth grade that I didn't plan on going to the seventh
grade.  What would I have done instead?  The same was true for everybody
I knew at that point in my life.  I knew of no cases of people coming up
with different ideas of what to do after hs.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 02:36:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13548
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 02:36:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E98787@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 8:44:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12898523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 08:50:05 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69Co5g01905 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:50:05 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws76-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.76]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69Co3Q10420
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:50:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F266OPXaq2hIQTfRNQz00007c20@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2ADBFA.A36A11D@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:50:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rashmi Murthy wrote:

> > > I'm calling it a tie. Both sides appear equally vehement.
>
> >Huh?  I'm not vehement at all about whether it's a <good or bad thing>
> >to bake cakes.  All I've said is that baking cakes is something I've
> >never done, something my mother has never done, something my > grandmother
> >probably never did, and something that wasn't <done> for bday parties in
> >my particular schools.
>
> Your posts this morning about only having eaten cakes from
> one store sounded pretty fierce.

About whether it was a <good thing or bad thing>?  I've never thought of
it those terms at all.  It was simply The Thing.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 02:40:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13564
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 02:40:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9881E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 8:48:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12898768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 08:53:42 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69Crgg02486 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:53:42 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws76-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.76]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69CrdQ11433
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:53:39 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709041126.331148090@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2ADCCC.67431467@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:53:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I don't think cake-baking is important, but I do think it's something
> that most people have done.

Here's where an AnnBork "grow up" comment might be appropriate.  I think
that early in life most children think that whatever their families do
is universal (there would of course be some exceptions).  No doubt at
some point in my childhood I falsely assumed that all mothers taught
Sunday School and were active in The Little Theatre.  As I grew older, I
realized that was not the case.  Iow, I shed those false assumptions.  I
didn't have to shed an assumption that all mothers baked cakes since I'd
never had reason to acquire such an assumption, having grown up in a
family that did not include cake-baking.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 02:41:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13568
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 02:41:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00105D59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 8:55:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12898851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 08:55:15 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69CtFg02719 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:55:15 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws76-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.76]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69CtCQ11915
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:55:13 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082313210.8737-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2ADD2F.C09BD9B7@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:55:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> > > Well they must have been memorable, as must have been the homemade cakes.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > I have no memories of homemade cakes.  I've tasted them upon occasion
> > later in life but not during childhood.  Cake is not at the top of my
> > list of favorite foods, but I prefer store-bought.
>
> I *know* you have no memories of homemade cakes, Natalie!  Jeez, I've been
> reading the posts!

Sorry.  I thought "memorable" meant that one had memories.  So what did
you mean by "they must have been memorable"?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 03:04:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13611
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 03:04:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E98E43@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 9:12:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12900082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 09:17:44 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69DHig06044 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:17:44 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws76-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.76]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69DHeQ18213
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:17:41 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708124440.675B47CC7@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D299289.10044291@maynor.net> <3D299F78.80907@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708192854.00a05270@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708213316.00a1b8a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020709082813.009fe7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2AE273.5BB547B2@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:17:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> O.k.  I'll play for awhile.  The fact that you went to a very good high
> school was partly because things were set up in Mississippi at that time so
> that the poorer and slower students had to go to another school.  This is a
> class system.  You didn't have to go slower in your lessons in order to
> accommodate those who were less culturally advantaged.

Schools were racially segregated.  That we were all aware of.  And
that's why I've said at various points in this discussion that what we
were unaware of in my hs was any kind of social hierarchy among whites.

I don't know what you mean by how things "were set up in Mississippi" re
"poorer and slower" students.  Other than racial segregation, our
schools were the way they were most places, afaik.  The concept of
bussing hadn't come along at that time, a concept that I think came
along in connection with racial desegregation but that I suppose could
be used to mix students in other ways.  Like busses could have driven
around the city picking up people who had somehow been deemed by the
authorities as "poor" and "slow" and taking them to my hs while taking
some of us richer, faster students to schools in other parts of town.
Is that what they did in your town?

> You posted originally that you did not encounter the class system until you
> got to college when actually you were living in a very segregated system by
> class and by race from the moment you were born.  You had very much

??  I said I was not aware of the concept of a class system among whites
until I was in college.  You may right now have some kind of virus in
your blood that you're unaware of.  That doesn't mean it's not there.
It means you don't know about it.  And I have never said anything about
not being aware of racial segregation.  I think we've talked before
about early-childhood memories of gradually figuring out that races are
segregated.  It's obviously not something one pops out of the womb
recognizing.  I can't name the precise age at which it became apparent
to me.  At some point in childhood I started noticing that restrooms in
public places were divided into categories.  Boys and girls didn't use
the same restroom.  Ditto the different races.  With the passing of time
it dawned on me that males and females used different restrooms because
of sitting vs standing -- because of things like penises.  I'm sure I
didn't fully understand why that should mean different restrooms, of
course, since I used the same toilets as my brother and my father at
home, and I knew they had penises.  It was probably a bit after that
that I gave up on trying to figure out what skin color had to do with
toilets and stuff.  I remember asking my mother about it at a pretty
young age and sensing that she didn't really understand the answer and
felt awkward with the question.  I don't remember her exact words now.

So yes.  I knew about male-female separation in certain contexts and
black-white separation in certain contexts.  I did not know about
social-class hierarchies of people of the same skin color and same
gender.  (I did know that boys got certain privileges that girls didn't
get, of course.)

> Now you know differently or you ought to.  But still you post as if you
> were this innocent in your youth, unaware that some people are privileged
> while others are disadvantaged based on the class they are born into.  That
> is disingenuous.

Your paragraph doesn't make sense.  NOW I know differently.  Does that
mean I'm supposed to post lies about THEN?  Which tense are you talking
about?  I *AM* not an unaware innocent.  I *WAS* one.  Maybe I should
create a fictional childhood to make you happier.  I lived for at least
the first eighteen years of my life without ever knowing anybody who
lived the life you and Bethany claim to have lived in your childhoods.
Would pretending that I did live such a life make me better accepted?
Would it make me not disingenuous.  I thought being disingenuous meant
not telling the truth.  Why would lying about my past make me more
truthful?  Iow, I really, really don't see your logic.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 03:23:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15114
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 03:23:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E99215@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 9:31:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12901168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 09:37:24 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69DbOg08528 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:37:24 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-47.panax.com
          [65.114.190.47]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g69DbEj27948 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:37:19
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020708170903.D20007C87@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708124509.00a0fec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020709085826.00a0ecb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:00:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130301b950049c5d9e@[198.144.202.197]>

>I think you're on the wrong track here.  From what Natalie has told us of
>her growing up years, it seems to me that her entire town was obsessed, not
>with snobbery, but with conformity.  Not even the smallest pre-schooler was
>allowed to look a little bit different from her peers (much less think a
>little bit differently than her peers) without half the town tsk-tsking.
>Ken Miller

It's not like snobbery and conformity are opposites.  One of the reasons
southern children are rigidly taught to conform to the standards of their
own social class is so that they will not be thought to be anything like a
Yankee or anything like poor white trash or anything like a black.  This is
a form of snobbery.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 03:29:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15123
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 03:29:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E992B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 9:37:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12901455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 09:43:05 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69Dh5g09195 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:43:05 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g69Dh4G05546 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:43:04
          -0500 (CDT)
References: <20020709021338.09CB580D2@yellow.rahul.net> 
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020709083904.009ef240@pop3.norton.antivirus>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <004c01c2274e$bc470ae0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:44:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Marie! (Cold Ginger Chicken)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >Wait a moment.  I'm behind the times.
> >Is "newest friend" the same as what she used
> >to call her "new friend"?  If there a newer one?
> >Has the old been discarded and the new one
> >taken over?  Does the newest one share her
> >boat?  Does she still have the boat?  Has she
> >used the boat this summer?  Does the newest
> >friend help with her weeds?        - D. M.
>
> Excellent questions.  Call her up, Doris, and ask.
> 512-977-8817  Report back to the rest of us.
>
>
>     --bonniev

No.

Because

1.  I have a house full of guests and am very busy.
2.  Her voice is too young.  I probably couldn't
     relate to it.

                          - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 03:42:31 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15152
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 03:42:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0010637F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 9:56:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12902276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 09:56:05 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f213.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.213]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69Du5f11138 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:56:05 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          9 Jul 2002 06:56:00 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 09
          Jul 2002 13:55:59 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jul 2002 13:56:00.0127 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[5B3B38F0:01C22750]
Message-ID:  <F2134HIv6EybqfAj81E0000d149@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:55:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bonnie, you are talking out your ass about something you know nothing of.
Your postings on the South are far more telling about your own prejudices
and ignorance than anything else. If by accident you occasionally include a
fact in the morass of stereotypes and sock-puppet faces you call "The
South," it is proof that occasionally the chimpanzee does type a sonnet.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 03:52:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15184
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 03:52:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E994C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:00:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12902809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 10:06:12 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69E6CK12472 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:06:12 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust53.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.55]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005094704@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 10:05:57 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D29F110.1070701@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708174102.00b2dc70@mail.panax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2AEDF9.7900FD14@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:06:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:
>
>
> As someone who seems to strive toward simpler words, why do you use "usage"
> when "use" would suffice?  The <-age> ending is an excellent example of
> overblown and stilted words.

Watching re-runs of the congressional hearings re: Worldcom last night,
I heard "analyization" instead of "analysis."

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 03:53:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15191
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 03:53:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E994D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:01:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12902841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 10:07:02 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69E72K12584 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:07:02 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust53.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.55]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005094734@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 10:06:45 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D29F110.1070701@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708174102.00b2dc70@mail.panax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2AEE29.EB1D82F@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:07:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The word is so weird, I can't spell it, obviously.

Analyzation is better, I guess.

--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 04:02:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15223
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 04:02:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9958A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:10:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12903260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 10:16:10 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69EGAK13950 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:16:10 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust53.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.55]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003786372@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 10:16:08 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2F7D24@webmail.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2AF05B.31F4C6A5@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:16:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: The church of SpongeBob Squarepants
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> >http://www.churchoofspongebob.org
>
> Could not find it.

I don't wonder. There is an extra O in there.

http://www.churchofspongebob.org

Try that.

alyce

--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 04:37:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15329
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 04:37:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E99906@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:45:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12905446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 10:50:39 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69EocK19277 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:50:39 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust53.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.55]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003787120@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 10:49:52 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709015909.19C3180D9@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2AF844.13962E1C@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:50:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Japanese skills...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> One of the things I learned to do when I lived in Japan was to kill
> mosquitoes by clapping my hands together. Do you guys ever do this?

If the mosquito is somewhere between my two hands, yes. Is there another
way?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 04:39:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15339
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 04:39:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E99948@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:47:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12905596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 10:53:23 -0400
Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69ErMK19653 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:53:22 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.161] ([208.138.31.74]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with
          ESMTP id <20020709135139.CZVU13091.mail@[208.138.31.74]> for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:51:39 -0400
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B9506311.E8D0%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:53:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020709040737.4F5038090@yellow.rahul.net>

On 8/7/2002 11:07 PM, Karen Kay wrote:

> Peter Levy said:
>>> Is this word an <issue> for you, Peter?
>>
>> The issue is of interest.
>
> Okay. I wasn't sure whether you were chastising me indirectly or
> what. I'm not going to apologize for using the word in this company.

No need to apologize. Not to me anyway.

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 04:47:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15371
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 04:47:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E999E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:55:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12905907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 11:00:52 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69F0qK20392 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:00:52 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g69F0q818320
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:00:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2A587F.5C5313A@maynor.net> <v03130308b950114155f8@[66.237.73.69]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2AFC45.3E1D9AD2@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:07:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bookrat wrote:
>
> >We always just talked as if college was the next step. You finished high
> >school, making sure you obtained all the courses needed to get into a
> >university, and you went to college. Neither kid argued and they just did
> >it.
>
> My parents did the same thing.  Looking back, I wish I'd had enough
> gumption to argue.  I needed a wanderjahr, and would have taken one if I'd
> known that such a thing existed.
>
> >Parents need to value education.
>
> >Betty
>
> What the hell does "college" have to do with "education"?

Geeze, I don't know.  I never went and I sometimes feel smarter than
some of the PHDs on this list.

BB

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 04:50:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15384
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 04:50:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E99A28@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:58:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12906135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 11:04:07 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69F47K21003 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:04:07 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g69F46821005
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:04:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708202645.9BEAA7D08@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2A4C6F.1010103@swbell.net> <3D2AD382.54EC8900@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2AFD08.275C23AE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:11:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> > Boughten cakes are usually prettier because I'm not much of
> > a cake decorator -- I want to take a class in that someday.
>
> Cake-making is apparently a very profitable business.  A person I know
> in Huntsville took some classes in cake-decorating, then started doing
> informal selling of cakes, discovered that she could sell them for
> *HUGE* amounts of money -- we're talking hundreds of dollars now, got
> overwhelmed with orders, quit her regular job, contracted with the most
> expensive restaurant in town to provide their cakes, and has made
> fortunes.

Is she fat?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 04:50:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15391
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 04:50:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E99A2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:58:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12906153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 11:04:17 -0400
Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69F4HK21030 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:04:17 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.161] ([208.138.31.74]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with
          ESMTP id <20020709140233.DDCD13091.mail@[208.138.31.74]> for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:02:33 -0400
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B95065A0.E8D6%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:04:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708222731.00b7ebf0@mail.panax.com>

On 8/7/2002 9:40 PM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:

>> Whether you would include "niggardly" in the obscure category is, I submit,
>> irrelevant. It is what the audience thinks that matters. Or not.
>
> This is where we part company.  I have no control over what any "audience"
> may think.  He/she/they may not like my hair style or the color of my eyes
> or what I am wearing or my accent or lack of the same and this may
> influence their interpretation of what I say as much as the words I use.  I
> refuse to spend my life trying to accommodate such nonsense--but if you
> want to do so, feel free.  And as a matter of fact, it <is> what I think
> that matters because to do otherwise is to relinquish control to some sort
> of group "intelligence," which generally has been shown to be antithetical
> to original thought or creativity.

Among the functions that language performs are self-expression and
communication. You seem here to be focussed on the former.
>
>> And of course, it is not simply a question of obscurity, but the fact that
>> with this word there is a chance of confusion with a similar sounding word
>> usage of which is generally deemed <wrong>. And that that confusion may well
>> have the effect of distancing the speaker/writer from members of the
>> audience so confused.
>
> Then the confusion is in the individual or collective minds out there.  Am
> I responsible for their errors?  I think not.  And for that matter, who
> judges what is <wrong>?  The mob?  Never---unless one wishes to dwell in an
> Orwellian state.
The self, then? Surely the answer is that society decides. It is not the
decision itself that might be Orwellian, it is the structure of sanctions
and enforcement.

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 05:04:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15412
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 05:04:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00106B72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:18:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12906899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 11:18:07 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69FI7K22880 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:18:07 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.66.169]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYZMGG00.ZTH for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:17:04 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD   (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020708222731.00b7ebf0@mail.panax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2AFE8D.5FD88E30@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:17:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Organization: Mesa Community College
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:

>
> This is where we part company.  I have no control over what any "audience"
> may think.  He/she/they may not like my hair style or the color of my eyes
> or what I am wearing or my accent or lack of the same and this may
> influence their interpretation of what I say as much as the words I use.  I
> refuse to spend my life trying to accommodate such nonsense--but if you
> want to do so, feel free.  And as a matter of fact, it <is> what I think
> that matters because to do otherwise is to relinquish control to some sort
> of group "intelligence," which generally has been shown to be antithetical
> to original thought or creativity.

> Then the confusion is in the individual or collective minds out there.  Am
> I responsible for their errors?  I think not.  And for that matter, who
> judges what is <wrong>?  The mob?  Never---unless one wishes to dwell in an
> Orwellian state.

    Odd. I was saying almost this exact same thing about ten days ago and you had
a quite different take on the matter.

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 05:12:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15440
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 05:12:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E99C87@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:20:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12907878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 11:25:49 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69FPnK24263 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:25:49 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g69FPmG15135 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:25:48
          -0500 (CDT)
References: <3D29F110.1070701@swbell.net>           
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708174102.00b2dc70@mail.panax.com> 
            <3D2AEDF9.7900FD14@valstar.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000401c2275d$161657c0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:27:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> Watching re-runs of the congressional hearings re: Worldcom last
night,
> I heard "analyization" instead of "analysis."
>
> alyce

The speaker no doubt has
analyzationitis.

           - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 05:15:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15453
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 05:15:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E99CD3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:23:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12908061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 11:28:33 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69FSXK24623 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:28:33 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g69FSV501776 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:28:31 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207091026110.1701-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:28:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207090437080.25983-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:
>
> >Bethany I do wish you would reconsider your ironic use of "thank you."
>
> Why?

It makes me hate the player.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 05:15:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15465
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 05:15:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00106C8C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:28:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12907287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 11:28:52 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69FIqK23227 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:18:52 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g69FIpUh007687 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:18:52 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207091111300.407-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:18:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      cakes and conformity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I have not read all the morning posts yet, but as I have been thinking
about our cakes and conformity conversation, I have realized that an
underlying premise is more at issue than whether store-boughten cake is
edible.

When I was a child/teenager - certainly by the time I was 9/10 - I had no
desire to be like everyone else. I also did not have friends who wanted to
be like everyone else. The idea that any any of us would even have NOTICED
whether people were serving the same kinds of foods (cake, whatever) at
parties, birthday or otherwise, would simply never have occurred to any of
us.

Natalie and I had radically different childhood experiences. We moved
around a lot. When I was very young, I sometimes went to three different
schools in a year. I was in the fifth grade before I spent an entire year
in one school. One year (second grade, I think), I just did not finish the
school year - we moved in the Spring, and it just didn't seem worth the
effort to any of us - parents, teachers, or me. But I don't think my
experiences re conformity and cake would have been any different even if
we had not moved a lot.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 05:19:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15483
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 05:19:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00106D0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12908504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 11:33:10 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69FXAK25545 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:10 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g69FX8301875 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:33:08 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207091028490.1701-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:33:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2ADD2F.C09BD9B7@maynor.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> > > > Well they must have been memorable, as must have been the homemade cakes.
> > > I have no memories of homemade cakes.  I've tasted them upon occasion
> > > later in life but not during childhood.  Cake is not at the top of my
> > > list of favorite foods, but I prefer store-bought.
> > I *know* you have no memories of homemade cakes, Natalie!  Jeez, I've been
> > reading the posts!
> Sorry.  I thought "memorable" meant that one had memories.  So what did
> you mean by "they must have been memorable"?

I meant, the homemade cakes must have been memorable to those in the Bake
It From Scratch! contingent.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 05:22:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15501
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 05:22:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E99E43@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:30:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12908749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 11:36:14 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69FaDK25959 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:36:13 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g69FaCE02120 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:36:12 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207091034330.1701-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:36:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: cakes and conformity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207091111300.407-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> When I was a child/teenager - certainly by the time I was 9/10 - I had no
> desire to be like everyone else. I also did not have friends who wanted to
> be like everyone else. The idea that any any of us would even have NOTICED
> whether people were serving the same kinds of foods (cake, whatever) at
> parties, birthday or otherwise, would simply never have occurred to any of
> us.
>
> Natalie and I had radically different childhood experiences. We moved
> around a lot. When I was very young, I sometimes went to three different
> schools in a year. I was in the fifth grade before I spent an entire year
> in one school. One year (second grade, I think), I just did not finish the
> school year - we moved in the Spring, and it just didn't seem worth the
> effort to any of us - parents, teachers, or me. But I don't think my
> experiences re conformity and cake would have been any different even if
> we had not moved a lot.

This eerily describes my own experience - schools, friends, attitude.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 05:24:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15511
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 05:24:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00106D86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:37:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12908029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 11:37:46 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69FRkK24542 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:27:46 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g69FRjUh011052 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:27:45 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207091127090.407-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:27:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The church of SpongeBob Squarepants
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2AF05B.31F4C6A5@valstar.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

>> Could not find it.
>
>I don't wonder. There is an extra O in there.
>
>http://www.churchofspongebob.org

I did. One page was enough!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 05:28:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15521
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 05:28:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E99F14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:36:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12908383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 11:42:01 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69FW1K25331 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:32:01 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g69FW0Uh012728 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:32:00 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207091131500.407-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:32:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207091026110.1701-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:

>On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:
>>
>> >Bethany I do wish you would reconsider your ironic use of "thank you."
>>
>> Why?
>
>It makes me hate the player.

Why?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 05:35:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15549
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 05:35:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00106E7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:48:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12909506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 11:48:54 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69FmsK27677 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:48:54 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust53.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.55]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003788453@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 11:48:41 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207082150550.23015-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D2A46A0.2CB2F967@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B060B.26D06191@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:49:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Of course.  It's not lumpy.  You don't bite down on it all of a sudden.
> I hate clumps in icecream.

Some vanilla ice cream has little granules in it. I never had had any
such vanilla until I moved to NYC. Then I ordered a dish of vanilla and
it was all full of these little bits, so I complained that it was
tainted, and was told that this was "real" vanilla ice cream. And so it
is--French Vanilla.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 05:42:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15581
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 05:42:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9A077@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:50:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12910069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 11:56:03 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69Fu3K28942 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:56:03 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYZ004WYO9EGC@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 10:56:02 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020709014305.BA8547E3C@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2B0739.7060605@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:54:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> My Newest Friend called a friend of his when he was over here, and I
> talked to My Newest Friend's friend for some time. I'm going to send
> him my resume, but there's a hiring freeze, so it's not clear that
> this will result in anything. However, when we talked, it seemed like
> he has <needs> that I can fill perfectly, so *I* am crossing *my*
> fingers. But I'm not asking you to, yet. This would be using my
> (rusty) Japanese skills.


I will cross a brain cell or two for you, then.  The RNH was
hired during a hiring freeze/big layoffs.

BTW, officially, he's attached to a group in Texas.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 05:46:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15603
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 05:46:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9A0D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:54:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12910320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 12:00:20 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69G0JK29611 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:00:19 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYZ0048VOGJGE@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 11:00:19 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020709022958.5E1D581EA@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2B083A.7090207@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:58:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>Peter Levy wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>PS What's a Flivver?
>>>
>>
>>It's a nickname for the Ford Model T.
>>
>
> Nah, it's a jalopy. AHD says: "Slang An automobile, especially one
> that is small, inexpensive, and old. ETYMOLOGY:Origin unknown."
>

In period literature, it nearly always refers to a Model T.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 05:47:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15607
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 05:47:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9A0EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:55:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12909645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 12:00:59 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69FoxK27948 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:50:59 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g69FowUh019990 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:50:58 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207091149490.407-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:50:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B060B.26D06191@valstar.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

>Some vanilla ice cream has little granules in it. I never had had any
>such vanilla until I moved to NYC. Then I ordered a dish of vanilla and
>it was all full of these little bits, so I complained that it was
>tainted, and was told that this was "real" vanilla ice cream. And so it
>is--French Vanilla.

Pieces of vanilla bean?

I meant to say earlier about Natalie's take on ice cream that it seems
clear that she is really talking about texture as much as flavor.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 06:03:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15654
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 06:03:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9A233@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:11:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12911226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 12:17:07 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69GH7K31657 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:17:07 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYZ009MFP8IZU@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 11:17:06 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D2A587F.5C5313A@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2B0C29.6080607@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:15:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:


 The Words-L way is to have picked
> cotton in Texas or whatever it was Bethany did or to have had a mother
> working six jobs or whatever it was that Rita said.


My mother worked full-time is what I said.  Talk about your
hyperbole.  One job.  She worked at Johnson & Johnson in the
surgical instruments division. (She worked some odd jobs
before I was born, of course -- she was an attendant at the
very first self-serve gas station, for example.) My dad
owned his own business for awhile, which he then gave up (I
don't know why), then he was a truck driver for awhile, but
got laid off when the company failed during the gas crises.
  Things were lean for us for a few years in the 70s when
all that was going on.  This is when I learned about free
lunch tickets at school and government surplus cheese.
Since our town was sort of blue collar and a lot of people
were in similar straits, I remember at least a third of my
elementary schoolmates getting free or reduced lunch tickets
-- no big deal.  Then we settled into something more or less
comfortable after Dad started worked for the City until I
was a teenager and my parents went through a separation for
a few years and things were a bit lean again.  At 18 I left
the house. I hope that clarifies things for you.  I had a
mixed childhood -- some years were comfortable (although
never to the extent we went to Europe or anything) and some
years I'm not sure how my parents managed to hang onto the
house.

What I find fascinating about your childhood, Natalie,
doesn't have anything to do with class, but how insular it
appears to have been.  I find that really remarkable.  Many
parents strive to achieve something like that for their
children, but I never thought it was possible.  Maybe it
isn't possible anymore.  I don't find the idea that boughten
cakes were popular odd so much as that any deviation would
be commented upon -- this is really a level of cultural
conformity I've never encountered.  Please note, not that I
don't understand cultural norms -- but this seems to be a
notch above anything I've witnessed and I'm trying to
understand a culture that would place such emphasis on small
details of conformity.


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 06:04:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15661
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 06:04:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9A246@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:12:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12911281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 12:18:10 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69GIAK31751 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:18:10 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYZ009XEPA9ZW@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 11:18:09 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082215490.6731-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2B0C68.1080506@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:16:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>        I don't believe that's germaine to the discussion.
>>
>                                  ^^^^^^^^
>
> I can't believe that's how it's spelled.
>


        Maybe not.  You've all noted repeatedly what a poor speller I am.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 06:09:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15671
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 06:09:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9A2CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:17:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12911604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 12:22:37 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69GMaK32389 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:22:37 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust53.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.55]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005097809@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 12:21:41 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709021519.1F5AF803F@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2AD2A4.A3347EA8@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B0DC6.8E97EBAA@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:22:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>  To me a "party" means that people
> are invited to come to your house (or possibly some other site) at a
> particular time -- people who wouldn't be there normally.

And to me, a party is a time of celebration when more than one person is
present. When your parents had their birthdays, did they have JJ cakes?
Was no notice taken of birthdays? Please explain.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 06:11:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15682
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 06:10:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9A2EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:19:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12911672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 12:24:32 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69GOWK32589 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:24:32 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust53.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.55]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003789260@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 12:24:14 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708202645.9BEAA7D08@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2A4C6F.1010103@swbell.net> <3D2AD382.54EC8900@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B0E5E.831DF6B6@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:25:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
> , quit her regular job, contracted with the most
> expensive restaurant in town to provide their cakes, and has made
> fortunes.

So, if you bought a cake from her, would it be better than if you were
invited to her home and she baked a cake for you?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 06:20:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15714
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 06:20:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9A39F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:28:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12912151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 12:34:05 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69GY5K01296 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:34:05 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYZ004RSQ0SGD@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 11:34:04 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020709035157.EBFCE7E06@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2B1023.5010409@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:32:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>Boughten cakes are usually prettier because I'm not much of
>>a cake decorator -- I want to take a class in that someday.
>>
>
> My Mom used to make shaped cakes--the kind where you make a cake and
> then cut the pieces into, like, a rabbit or something.
>


Oh, my friend's oldest sister used to love to make those --
had a whole bunch of those special pans.  I remember Brennie
spending whole afternoons mixing up the colored icing and
making those cakes.  She did the method where you bake a
regular cake and cut up the pieces, too, but after awhile
people started buying her the special pans as small gifts.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 06:27:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15754
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 06:27:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9A44C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:35:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12912617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 12:40:49 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69GenK02111 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:40:49 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYZ0043PQC0G8@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 11:40:49 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020708202645.9BEAA7D08@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2A4C6F.1010103@swbell.net> <3D2AD382.54EC8900@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2B11B8.2000502@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:39:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>Boughten cakes are usually prettier because I'm not much of
>>a cake decorator -- I want to take a class in that someday.
>>
>
> Cake-making is apparently a very profitable business.  A person I know
> in Huntsville took some classes in cake-decorating, then started doing
> informal selling of cakes, discovered that she could sell them for
> *HUGE* amounts of money -- we're talking hundreds of dollars now, got
> overwhelmed with orders, quit her regular job, contracted with the most
> expensive restaurant in town to provide their cakes, and has made
> fortunes.
>


        It certainly made my father in law rich.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 06:27:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15761
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 06:27:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9A45A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:35:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12912650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 12:41:11 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69GfAK02165 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:41:10 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYZ0049OQCMHB@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 11:41:10 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020709035726.5F4987E46@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2B11CD.8010909@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:39:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Hey, Marie! (Cold Ginger Chicken)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Doris Markland said:
>
>>Is "newest friend" the same as what she used
>>to call her "new friend"?
>>
>
> No.
>
>
>>If there a newer one?
>>
>
> Yes. I think I will call him *er*.


I will never keep them all straight now.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 06:30:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15776
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 06:30:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9A4B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:38:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12912888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 12:44:11 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69GiBK02488 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:44:11 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GYZ004I1QHMHB@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 11:44:11 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
Message-ID:  <3D2B1282.10304@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:42:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Dumb kids
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Mixing the "slow" kids in with the "fast" kids is called
inclusion.  It doesn't happen with busing; it's more a
reverse busing.  In the past, if these kids were permitted
in school at all (before IDEA in the '70s schools could
refuse to educate them), they were often in special schools
for the handicapped, etc.  Now, they go to the regular
classrooms.  Which is why I'm taking this goofy class on
inclusion.  It's an alright class.  It's just that I've
lived it with Ana (who is officially learning disabled/Other
Health Impaired -- in other words, one of the "slow" kids
even though her IQ is in the gifted range).



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 06:40:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15795
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 06:40:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001073BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:53:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12913594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 12:53:32 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69GrWK04014 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:53:32 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust53.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.55]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003789865@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 12:53:25 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207091127090.407-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B1535.735645BC@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:54:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: The church of SpongeBob Squarepants
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> I did. One page was enough!

I did not expect you (especially) to like it very much. I posted it for
JMW especially, and so that those who have not seen Sponge Bob could
become acquainted with him. FWIW, the church has absolutely no
connection to the TV show, and the small print disavows that the owners
of the show and Nickelodeon had anything to do with the church site.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 06:42:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15809
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 06:42:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001073F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:56:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12913798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 12:56:27 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69GuQK04512 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:56:26 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust53.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.55]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005098507@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 12:56:24 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207091149490.407-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B15E8.196A3351@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:57:12 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> Pieces of vanilla bean?
>
Well, not pieces of the bean, but very tiny little things that I presume
were seeds from within the bean. The closest I can think of would be
like strawberry or raspberry seeds--almost too small to see, but not too
small to crunch in your mouth.

--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 06:49:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15827
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 06:49:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9A63E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:57:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12914140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 13:02:35 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69H2ZK05277 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:02:35 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust53.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.55]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003790046@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 13:02:29 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2A587F.5C5313A@maynor.net> <3D2B0C29.6080607@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B1755.404CBE39@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:03:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:
>  I don't find the idea that boughten
> cakes were popular odd so much as that any deviation would
> be commented upon

Me, too. That is why I said yesterday that I can't believe that little
children would notice where a cake had come from. I remember children's
parties, and we usually were more excited about playing Pin the Tail on
the Donkery than the origin point of the cake.

This brings me to a new subject: I understand that there are no longer
birthday parties where children play Pin the Tail, but that they are all
taken to MacDonald's or to an event, or else entertainment is hired.
When did all that begin? And why?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 06:54:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15840
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 06:54:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001074CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:07:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12914374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 13:07:50 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f39.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69H7nK05875 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:07:49 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          9 Jul 2002 10:07:44 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          09 Jul 2002 17:07:44 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jul 2002 17:07:44.0499 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[245F1430:01C2276B]
Message-ID:  <F39oMkdr9FJXTdoifHq0000b692@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:07:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Marie! (Cold Ginger Chicken)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>Is there a name for that technique of putting the raw blueberries into
>the cook ones to warm them? Because the sauce for the chicken required
>a similar thing--you heat some oil until the salt you throw in it
>dissolves, turn it off, *then* throw the scallions it. So they aren't
>cooked, per se.
>
>My Newest Friend suggested 'braised', but I don't know that that's right.

I'm thinking 'steep'.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 06:55:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15847
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 06:55:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9A6B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:03:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12914467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 13:09:13 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69H9DK06055 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:09:13 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust53.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.55]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005098792@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 13:08:53 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B18D5.5EA0358@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:09:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: niggardly
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

This just appeared on Biblio. I was surprised to see it, as it is
something that I have removed from my vocabulary. Or is it OK? Does it
mean raccoon? OR ___?

"Apparently they are trying to snatch back some of their ABE
associations - one of which I have not been for a coon's age."
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 06:59:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15851
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 06:59:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9A706@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:07:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12914699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 13:12:44 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f299.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.174]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69HCiK06644 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:12:44 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          9 Jul 2002 10:12:39 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          09 Jul 2002 17:12:38 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jul 2002 17:12:39.0152 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[D3FF8F00:01C2276B]
Message-ID:  <F299Ug6A7oPiFEW6sSt00000822@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:12:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Japanese skills...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > > One of the things I learned to do when I lived in Japan was to kill
> > > mosquitoes by clapping my hands together. Do you guys ever do this?

I can't believe you had to go to Japan to learn this. Isn't this an
automatic reaction?

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 07:06:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16052
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 07:06:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001075BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:19:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12915199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 13:19:56 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69HJtK07902 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:19:55 -0400
Received: from c35206-a ([12.232.205.215]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020709171949.HADM29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@c35206-a> for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:19:49 +0000
X-Sender: lgclark@mail.attbi.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Message-ID:  <4.1.20020709101621.0092d340@mail.attbi.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:18:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Larry Clark <lgclark@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      only in america
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU


I just had a telemarketer call, wanting to sell me a protection plan that
would "prevent telemarketers from calling and disturbing me at home." I was
still laughing when I hung up.

Larry

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 07:15:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16674
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 07:15:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9A878@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:23:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12915707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 13:28:50 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69HSoK09298 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:28:50 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15498 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:28:23 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 9 Jul 02
          13:28:24 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 9 Jul 02 13:26:32 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D2AE481.941.134AF9F@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:26:26 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: only in america
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.1.20020709101621.0092d340@mail.attbi.com>

It had to happen. It was only a matter of time.  Someone should
set up a teleconsumer service that automatically calls businesses
and tells them why their products or services stink.

BrP




>
> I just had a telemarketer call, wanting to sell me a protection plan that
> would "prevent telemarketers from calling and disturbing me at home." I was
> still laughing when I hung up.
>
> Larry

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 07:15:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16717
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 07:15:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9A888@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:24:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12915193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 13:29:28 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69HJSK07879 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:19:28 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g69HJRUh020560;
          Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:19:27 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207091308500.6898-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:19:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      what I did/was in Texas
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Between moves, I did a number of things. However, I did not pick
cotton. In fact, I did not even chop cotton. We did not grow
cotton. Perhaps we should have.

"We" here is extended family - grandparents and aunt & uncle. My father
was an auto bodyman (a damned good one, back when all autos were made of
metal) and painter. My mother, who initially resented having to
work to earn money, became a good, though never licensed (no college
degree) dietician. Before that, she made draperies on commission.

During WWII, when my father was in the Navy, she tried to make money
growing chickens and tomatoes. It was a disaster. But at least we got to
eat the tomatoes and chickens.

We were definitely not middle-class. In rural communities (where my
extended family lived), we were just <normal>.  In urban communities,
especially Beaumont, where I lived from the age of 10 to the age of 22, we
were working-class with a touch of redneck thrown in. My maternal cousins
are all kickers.

My position in the school community was screwed up by the facts that I
was smart and read well. In my early school years, I was often brought in
to classes two or three years ahead of me to read aloud - to shame those
students into reading better, I suppose. That was in the days when I rode
a school bus - I was grateful not to get beaten up after one of those
performances.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 07:21:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17073
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 07:21:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00107701@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:34:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12915957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 13:34:35 -0400
Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.157]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g69HYZK09904 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002
          13:34:35 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0280.dialsprint.net ([63.190.1.26]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17Rysi-0003mH-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue,
          09 Jul 2002 13:34:33 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2A587F.5C5313A@maynor.net> <3D2B0C29.6080607@swbell.net>
            <3D2B1755.404CBE39@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B1EB2.43974AA1@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:34:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> This brings me to a new subject: I understand that there are no longer
> birthday parties where children play Pin the Tail, but that they are all
> taken to MacDonald's or to an event, or else entertainment is hired.
> When did all that begin? And why?

First, there are still birthday parties where children play games...
like pin the tail.  Evidence:  Zach's and Austin's birthday parties in
2001 and 2002.

In the '80s Lisa and Scott had birthday parties at McDonald's, Chuck E
Cheese, and other commercial restaurants for several reasons.
1.  That's where they wanted to have their parties
2.  The establishment provided the entertainment
3.  I didn't have to worry about cleaning up after the party.

Each child also had friends over for birthday parties at home and
parties with family only. There was not a consistent routine.

Sometimes I baked the cake. Sometimes Grandma baked the cake,  Sometimes
the kids baked their cakes.  Sometimes the grocery store baker baked the
cake.  As far as I know no status was ever attributed to the source of
the cake, but white cake with white frosting was preferred over
chocolate cake with chocolate frosting.  White cake with a chocolate
frosting was never an option.

At Zach's birthday parties (in Georgia in 2001/2002), Lisa's friend
Angie's mom baked and decorated the cakes.  One cake was decorated with
a Piglet from Winnie the Pooh and the second cake featured Blue from
Blue's Clues.   Austin's great grandma baked Austin's cake  and I can't
remember for sure but I think Mickey Mouse was on that cake.

Lisa favorite birthday "cake" was/is a large layered and frosted
chocolate chip cookie  from The Cookie Factory.  Last year I bought her
cake at Food Lion... it was OK, but not as good as the ones from the
Cookie Factory.   When she is here with the kids and her friend Angie in
two weeks, we'll probably buy a Cookie Cake for our early celebration of
Rachel's first birthday.

--
Sylvia Edwards
Litopia    http://www.edwardsly.com
Sylvie's Place    http://www.geocities.com/s.words/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 07:28:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17548
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 07:28:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9A9A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:36:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12916521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 13:41:32 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69HfWK11327 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:41:32 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust53.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.55]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003790938@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 13:41:22 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2A587F.5C5313A@maynor.net> <3D2B0C29.6080607@swbell.net>
            <3D2B1755.404CBE39@valstar.net>
            <3D2B1EB2.43974AA1@pop.mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B206E.678B682B@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:42:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sylvia Edwards wrote:
>
> First, there are still birthday parties where children play games...
> like pin the tail.

This is a Good Thing. Thank you. We also played drop the clothes pin in
the bottle. Probably not playable now, because few people have wooden
clothes pins and almost no one (but me) has a glass milk bottle.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 07:56:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23472
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 07:56:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9AC93@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:04:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12918450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:09:46 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69I9jK17043 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:09:45 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYZUEE02.PRF for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:08:38 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207091127090.407-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D2B1535.735645BC@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B28AF.7D0CF1B9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:17:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The church of SpongeBob Squarepants
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> I did not expect you (especially) to like it very much. I posted it for
> JMW especially, and so that those who have not seen Sponge Bob could
> become acquainted with him.

    And I thank you!  I especially liked "Warning people about something
that isn't a problem creates a
problem."

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:01:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24117
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:01:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9AD26@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:09:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12918808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:15:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69IFOK17979 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:15:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DDA917CE4; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 11:15:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709181523.DDA917CE4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:15:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <001301c22709$ddf7f900$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 9, 2002  0:31:24 am"

Doris Markland said:
> > And this was... uh... 25 years ago. So how would you describe what you
> > call "cold ginger chicken".
> >
> > Karen
>
> Pieces of cold chicken that taste like ginger.

Okay. That doesn't fit my personal parameters for this dish.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:11:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25847
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:11:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9ADED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:19:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12919362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:24:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69IOrK19452 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:24:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 008037ED6; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 11:24:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709182451.008037ED6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:24:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2AD2A4.A3347EA8@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 9,
              2002  7:10:12 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Well, for me, this is a big part of the misunderstanding. My cohort
> > couldn't afford birthday parties; they were a family thing for the
> > most part.
>
> I don't remember now what cohort you're referring to,

The people in my age group in my neighborhood who went to my school.

> but I don't know
> what a family birthday party would be.

I weep for you.

> To me a "party" means that people
> are invited to come to your house (or possibly some other site) at a
> particular time -- people who wouldn't be there normally.

Hm. To me it involves certain behaviors. Like candles, making wishes,
and being sung Happy Birthday to.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:19:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27327
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:19:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9AEAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:27:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12919989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:32:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69IWVK21228 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:32:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A07967DC5; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 11:32:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709183230.A07967DC5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:32:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2ADCCC.67431467@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 9,
              2002  7:53:32 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I don't think cake-baking is important, but I do think it's something
> > that most people have done.
>
> Here's where an AnnBork "grow up" comment might be appropriate.

Backatcha!

> No doubt at
> some point in my childhood I falsely assumed that all mothers taught
> Sunday School and were active in The Little Theatre.  As I grew older, I
> realized that was not the case.

Did you never have any friends? My friend's families were quite
different from mine--mostly in that they didn't have as many kids.
(I'm talking pre-grade-school friends.) But their parents did
different things from mine, too.

> I didn't have to shed an assumption that all mothers baked cakes
> since I'd never had reason to acquire such an assumption, having
> grown up in a family that did not include cake-baking.

Whereas I never assumed that cake-baking was at related to motherhood.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:22:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27906
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:22:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9AF0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:30:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12920303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:35:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69IZoK22092 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:35:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 43EAA8064; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 11:35:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709183549.43EAA8064@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:35:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2AEDF9.7900FD14@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 9,
              2002 10: 6:49 am"

alyce cresap said:
> "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:
> > As someone who seems to strive toward simpler words, why do you use "usage"
> > when "use" would suffice?  The <-age> ending is an excellent example of
> > overblown and stilted words.
>
> Watching re-runs of the congressional hearings re: Worldcom last night,
> I heard "analyization" instead of "analysis."

I think that's a much better example of what Clyde is talking about
than 'usage'.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:23:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28022
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:23:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9AF14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:31:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12920319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:36:30 -0400
Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69IaTK22171 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:36:29 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b5.b58e41 (16228) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:36:19 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-d08.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.72]) by
          air-in02.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILININ24-0709143618;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 14:36:18 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <08809D60.5DE51F01.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:32:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: What happened with your forms processing idea?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU> wrote:

>oh no  Did I mass delete the messages on how we are considering
>implementing OCR at words-l ?  I'd better start reading my mail
>more carefully.
>
>
>BrP
>

This is another of those serendipitous moments: just installed an ocr program yesterday.  We're busy here.  Bankruptcy court is going to ECF (Electronic Case Filing), purportedly the first of August.  I have my doubts.  sure will eliminate paperwork.  Just signed up for DSL through DishNetwork this morning (we've got it for teevee at the farm).  We're gonna have to do a lot of downloading with the new system and hopefully this will save time.
>
>Anyone else use satellite connections?  It ain't cheap, but it is tax deductible.  The big advantage might be that the marginal legal practicioners might be driven out of business.  We'll see.

As with anything new, I expect a massive amount of confusion the first few months.  We've had training from Chase Manhattan (our program provider) and the court, but I haven't seen any non-trustee types at this stuff yet. It look pretty easy to do.  No more trips into town to file stuff!

The Bankruptcy Management program can be downloaded onto a laptop and taken right to the hearings, all the forms filled out and filed right away with the court.  We did it all at the Pikeville hearings yesterday, except the filing -- they're not ready downtown.  Still had to process the paper.

This is all interesting.  All Federal Courts are going to go to this system eventually.

jbh
>
>>  An outside consultant mentioned that he had heard that not to
>>  long ago you folks were considering implementing OCR
>>  technology to reduce data entry costs and improve efficiency.
>
>>     If you cannot advise on this please foreward this E-mail to the
>>  proper individual in your company who might be able to help with
>>  this.
>>
>>                           Thanks,
>>
>>                                            Steve
>


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:23:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28092
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:23:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00107CC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:36:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12920332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:36:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69IarK22201 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:36:54 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0713E80D9; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 11:36:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709183646.0713E80D9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:36:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Japanese skills...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2AF844.13962E1C@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 9,
              2002 10:50:44 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > One of the things I learned to do when I lived in Japan was to kill
> > mosquitoes by clapping my hands together. Do you guys ever do this?
>
> If the mosquito is somewhere between my two hands, yes. Is there another
> way?

What I'm talking about is actively searching them out and positioning
the mosquito between your hands.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:23:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28165
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:23:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9AF26@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:31:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12920388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:37:19 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69IbJK22337 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:37:19 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 78FEA80F1; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 11:37:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709183718.78FEA80F1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:37:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B9506311.E8D0%peterlevy@email.com> from Peter Levy at "Jul 9,
              2002  9:53:21 am"

Peter Levy said:
> On 8/7/2002 11:07 PM, Karen Kay wrote:
> > Peter Levy said:
> >>> Is this word an <issue> for you, Peter?
> >>
> >> The issue is of interest.
> >
> > Okay. I wasn't sure whether you were chastising me indirectly or
> > what. I'm not going to apologize for using the word in this company.
>
> No need to apologize. Not to me anyway.

Thanks.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:25:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28407
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:25:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9AF4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:33:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12920466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:38:42 -0400
Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69IcfK22533 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:38:41 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b4.b561f9 (16216) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:38:25 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-d04.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.68]) by
          air-in01.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILININ14-0709143825;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 14:38:25 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <05947B45.2E5BE44B.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:38:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Why I like Austin
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM> wrote:

>On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 06:01:45AM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
>= One reason: I love the fact that every newscast includes Tour de
>= France updates, including descriptions of the course.
>=
>= Karen
>
>Hell, you can get that here too.
>
>This weeks tv guide has the course of the day and an article
>about Armstrong.  Saturday's paper had an article too.
>
>steph
>
I haven't been following this thread, but some wags are calling it the "Tour de Lance".

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:26:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28578
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:26:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9AF73@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:34:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12920591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:39:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69IddK22760 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:39:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C9C1A7FCF; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 11:39:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709183935.C9C1A7FCF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:39:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B0739.7060605@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 9,
              2002 10:54:33 am"

Rita Chapman said:
> BTW, officially, he's attached to a group in Texas.

Will he visit?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:26:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28682
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:26:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9AF83@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:34:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12920629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:40:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69IeJK22923 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:40:19 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DE1A67FCF; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 11:40:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709184015.DE1A67FCF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:40:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B083A.7090207@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 9,
              2002 10:58:50 am"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Rita Chapman said:
> >
> >>Peter Levy wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>PS What's a Flivver?
> >>>
> >>
> >>It's a nickname for the Ford Model T.
> >>
> >
> > Nah, it's a jalopy. AHD says: "Slang An automobile, especially one
> > that is small, inexpensive, and old. ETYMOLOGY:Origin unknown."
> >
>
> In period literature, it nearly always refers to a Model T.

Well, yeah, but it's used a lot outside of period literature, IME.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:30:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29336
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:30:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9AFDC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:38:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12920889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:44:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69Ii6K23601 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:44:06 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B109D7FB8; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 11:44:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709184402.B109D7FB8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:44:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B0C29.6080607@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 9,
              2002 11:15:37 am"

Rita Chapman said:
> doesn't have anything to do with class, but how insular it
> appears to have been.  I find that really remarkable.

Me, too. I grew up in a cultural enclave, but we left it on
occasion--and on one of those I saw a policeman beat a black man for
no discernable reason.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:34:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29923
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:34:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9B025@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:42:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12921077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:47:36 -0400
Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69IlaK24007 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:47:36 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.b3.341a997 (16213) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:47:22 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-d11.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.75]) by
          air-in01.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILININ11-0709144722;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 14:47:22 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <2E007406.0534A7AF.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:45:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:

>Rita Chapman said:
>> doesn't have anything to do with class, but how insular it
>> appears to have been.  I find that really remarkable.
>
>Me, too. I grew up in a cultural enclave, but we left it on
>occasion--and on one of those I saw a policeman beat a black man for
>no discernable reason.
>
>Karen
>


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:36:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00308
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:36:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9B062@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:44:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12921233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:49:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69InVK24307 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:49:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 04E5C8181; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 11:48:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709184850.04E5C8181@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:48:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B1023.5010409@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 9,
              2002 11:32:35 am"

Rita Chapman said:
> Oh, my friend's oldest sister used to love to make those --
> had a whole bunch of those special pans.  I remember Brennie
> spending whole afternoons mixing up the colored icing and
> making those cakes.  She did the method where you bake a
> regular cake and cut up the pieces, too, but after awhile
> people started buying her the special pans as small gifts.

I think my Mom lost enthusiasm before that point.:) Also, having to
make different cakes for the twins pretty much did her in wrt
cake-baking.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:36:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00391
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:36:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9B071@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:44:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12921267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:50:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69IoDK24435 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:50:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3BFC07CFA; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 11:50:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709185010.3BFC07CFA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:50:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Marie! (Cold Ginger Chicken)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B11CD.8010909@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 9,
              2002 11:39:41 am"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Doris Markland said:
> >
> >>Is "newest friend" the same as what she used
> >>to call her "new friend"?
> >>
> >
> > No.
> >
> >
> >>If there a newer one?
> >>
> >
> > Yes. I think I will call him *er*.
>
>
> I will never keep them all straight now.

I think I confused the matter. There is My New Friend, and there is
*er*.  That's it.

For now.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:40:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00475
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:40:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9B12C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:48:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12921695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:54:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69IsCK24893 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:54:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8703E7DA6; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 11:54:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709185411.8703E7DA6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:54:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Marie! (Cold Ginger Chicken)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F39oMkdr9FJXTdoifHq0000b692@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 9, 2002  1: 7:44 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> >Is there a name for that technique of putting the raw blueberries into
> >the cook ones to warm them? Because the sauce for the chicken required
> >a similar thing--you heat some oil until the salt you throw in it
> >dissolves, turn it off, *then* throw the scallions it. So they aren't
> >cooked, per se.
> >
> >My Newest Friend suggested 'braised', but I don't know that that's right.
>
> I'm thinking 'steep'.

That implies lots of liquid, thought. Another friend suggested
'conduction', which fits.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:41:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00556
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:41:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9B138@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:49:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12921730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:54:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69IsgK24933 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:54:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9B58C7D89; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 11:54:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709185441.9B58C7D89@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:54:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Japanese skills...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F299Ug6A7oPiFEW6sSt00000822@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 9, 2002  1:12:38 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > > > One of the things I learned to do when I lived in Japan was to kill
> > > > mosquitoes by clapping my hands together. Do you guys ever do this?
>
> I can't believe you had to go to Japan to learn this. Isn't this an
> automatic reaction?

No.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:42:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00794
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:42:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00107F05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:56:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12921862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:56:01 -0400
Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69Iu1K25162 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:56:01 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b3.b51951 (22680) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:55:38 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-d08.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.72]) by
          air-in04.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILININ41-0709145538;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 14:55:38 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <29C4391E.2D4CAFB0.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:52:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:

>Rita Chapman said:
>> doesn't have anything to do with class, but how insular it
>> appears to have been.  I find that really remarkable.
>
>Me, too. I grew up in a cultural enclave, but we left it on
>occasion--and on one of those I saw a policeman beat a black man for
>no discernable reason.
>
>Karen
>

?

My email just said I sent a message.  I didn't.  But I will now.  I grew up in a real cultural enclave: military bases.  A lot of them in Europe. And it was sure class-structured, by rank.  but we all ate cake.  And our moms mostly baked them.

an early memory is taking the train (in the 50s) through NC/Va and drinking out of a "colored" water fountain.  It was just my height.  Can't remember if I could read then, but I suspect I could, it would have been when I was about 5.  I was castigated by a "neck" for it.  We didn't have such things on base.  Not that there was no racism on base, far from it, as you might suspect, given the backgrounds of the "other ranks".  Still, it was covert.

Six years were spent in Europe, mostly in real cultural enclaves -- segrated from the German population, with two exceptions.  First grade I attended a German school.  And in (fourth, I think) France, we went part of the week to a French school, and the kids there came to our school the other part of the week.  But then DeGaulle kicked us out when he quit NATO.

Enough.  I have to call idiot e. ky lawyers and get back to work.  So I need this phone line for long distance calls.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 08:44:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01049
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 08:44:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9B18D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:52:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12921964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 14:57:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69IvZK25505 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:57:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3F3B17D2B; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 11:57:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709185735.3F3B17D2B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:57:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Why I like Austin
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <05947B45.2E5BE44B.0099AB05@netscape.net> from jbh at "Jul 9,
              2002  2:38:30 pm"

jbh said:
> I haven't been following this thread, but some wags are calling it the "Tour de Lance".

Mais oui.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 09:27:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01644
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 09:27:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9B62B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:35:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12924497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 15:41:14 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f95.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.95]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69JfEK31419 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:41:14 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          9 Jul 2002 12:41:09 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 09
          Jul 2002 19:41:08 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jul 2002 19:41:09.0216 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[92CF6E00:01C22780]
Message-ID:  <F95t3HvoFOAmEaJswFC0000da9b@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:41:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      red pepper
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

What kind of pepper is roasted for roasted red pepper soup? The jars of
roasted red peppers look like pimentos. Are they pimentos, and if so, what
is the name of the pepper that makes a pimento?

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 09:29:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01651
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 09:29:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9B647@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:37:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12924570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 15:42:28 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69JgRK31576 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:42:27 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g69Jkf101248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:46:41
          +0200
References: <3D2AF844.13962E1C@valstar.net>
            <20020709183646.0713E80D9@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020709214641.A1076@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:46:41 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Japanese skills...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020709183646.0713E80D9@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 11:36:46AM -0700

=
= What I'm talking about is actively searching them out and positioning
= the mosquito between your hands.
=
= Karen

Yes.  If they've bitten me it is less work to wash my hands than
to wash the wall.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 09:35:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01667
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 09:35:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9B6FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:43:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12925134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 15:48:43 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69JmhK00350 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:48:43 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust53.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.55]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005102573@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 15:48:43 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F95t3HvoFOAmEaJswFC0000da9b@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B3E41.6D24AE51@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:49:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: red pepper
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Anne Toal wrote:
>
> What kind of pepper is roasted for roasted red pepper soup? The jars of
> roasted red peppers look like pimentos. Are they pimentos, and if so, what
> is the name of the pepper that makes a pimento?
>
Yes. Roasted red peppers are pimento peppers, I think. I used to make
pimentos from red peppers, anyway. Shocked, are you, that I have done
this kitchenly thing? Full of surprises is what I am.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 09:36:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01680
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 09:36:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9B72B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:44:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12925257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 15:49:47 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69JnkK00529 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:49:46 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYZZ1200.EQQ for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:48:38 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD   (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B3E05.4970FF9B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:48:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Organization: Mesa Community College
Subject:      Weather program rains success
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

    MSU in the news:

http://www.arizonarepublic.com/smartliving/articles/0708tvweather0708.html

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 09:39:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01687
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 09:39:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9B77D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:47:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12925447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 15:52:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69JqfK00907 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:52:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D09077EEF; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 12:52:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709195237.D09077EEF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:52:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: red pepper
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F95t3HvoFOAmEaJswFC0000da9b@hotmail.com> from Anne Toal at "Jul
              9, 2002  2:41: 8 pm"

Anne Toal said:
> What kind of pepper is roasted for roasted red pepper soup? The jars of
> roasted red peppers look like pimentos. Are they pimentos, and if so, what
> is the name of the pepper that makes a pimento?

I think it depends on what you mean by pimento--as another name for
allspice, or as an alternate name for pepper.

Roasted red peppers are red bell peppers, generally.

http://52.1911encyclopedia.org/P/PI/PIMENTO.htm relates the two
meanings: " PIMENTO, also called ALLSPICE (from a supposed combination
of various flavours) and JAMAICA PEPPER, the dried immature fruit of
Eugen-la pimenta or Pimenta officinalis, an evergreen tree about 30
ft. high, belonging to the natural order Myrtaceae. It is indigenous
in the West India Islands, growing on limestone hills near the sea,
and is especially grown in Jamaica. The spice derives its name from
the Portuguese pimenta, Spanish pimienta, pepper, which was given to
its resemblance to pepper-corns. The berries are gathered in July and
August, when of full size, but still unripe- owe their aromatic
properties to an essential oil present to the extent of 3 to 41/2% and
consisting largely of eugenol or allyl guaiacol,
HO(CH,O)C6H,.C,H5. The chief use of pimento is as a spice. The oil,
the action of which resembles that of cloves, is occasionally used in
medicine, and is also employed in perfuming soaps. The "bay rum" used
as a toilet article is a tincture scented with the oil of the leaves
of an allied species, Pimenta acris, commonly known as the bayberry
tree."

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 09:41:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01694
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 09:41:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9B7B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:49:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12925579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 15:54:42 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69JsgK01115 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:54:42 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g69Jwus01292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:58:56
          +0200
References: <F95t3HvoFOAmEaJswFC0000da9b@hotmail.com>
            <3D2B3E41.6D24AE51@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020709215856.B1076@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:58:56 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: red pepper
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B3E41.6D24AE51@valstar.net>; from alybooks@VALSTAR.NET on
              Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 03:49:21PM -0400

= pimentos from red peppers, anyway. Shocked, are you, that I have done
= this kitchenly thing? Full of surprises is what I am.
=
= alyce

Talking like Yoda, you are.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 10:49:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01834
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 10:49:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C0CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:57:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12931994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 17:02:42 -0400
Received: from fido.kiva.net (fido.kiva.net [216.9.137.65]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g69L2gK12474 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:02:42 -0400
Received: (qmail 6549 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2002 21:02:41 -0000
Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by fido.kiva.net with SMTP; 9
          Jul 2002 21:02:41 -0000
Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id C77B534F11; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 16:02:41 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix)
          with ESMTP id C69DD2D643 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,  9 Jul
          2002 16:02:41 -0500 (EST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207091558500.12937-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:02:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tom Lee <flint@KIVA.NET>
Subject:      Re: niggardly
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B18D5.5EA0358@valstar.net>

        I was in college before I found out that "coon" was a racial slur.
I had always thought it meant a raccoon.  Davy Crockett and his coonskin
cap spring to mind.  Same thing goes for the expression "in a coon's age"
-- I don't recall thinking it meant anything other than a raccoon before
just now.  Not that I know how long raccoons live.

--
Take care,
Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
King of the word (weird?) frontier

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

> This just appeared on Biblio. I was surprised to see it, as it is
> something that I have removed from my vocabulary. Or is it OK? Does it
> mean raccoon? OR ___?
>
> "Apparently they are trying to snatch back some of their ABE
> associations - one of which I have not been for a coon's age."
> --
> alyce
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 10:53:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01848
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 10:53:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C17C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:01:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12932583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 17:06:31 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69L6UK13203 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:06:30 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust144.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.146]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003795746@mx0.inoc.net>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:06:30 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B5079.D4074D71@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:07:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      [Fwd: Google "Mirror" Site]
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Someone definitely has too much time on their hands.
Go to  http://www.alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/
Then try typing in a word backwards.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 11:01:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01865
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 11:01:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C22B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:09:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12933088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 17:14:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69LEoK14229 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:14:51 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DE034818D; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 14:14:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709211444.DE034818D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:14:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: niggardly
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207091558500.12937-100000@mayhem.kiva.net> from
              Tom Lee at "Jul 9, 2002  4: 2:41 pm"

Tom Lee said:
>         I was in college before I found out that "coon" was a racial slur.
> I had always thought it meant a raccoon.  Davy Crockett and his coonskin
> cap spring to mind.  Same thing goes for the expression "in a coon's age"
> -- I don't recall thinking it meant anything other than a raccoon before
> just now.  Not that I know how long raccoons live.

I think this is exactly like niggardly, that the problem lies in
homophony more than anything else.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 11:13:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01875
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 11:13:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C342@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:21:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12933881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 17:27:12 -0400
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69LRCK15857 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:27:12 -0400
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu
          (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id
          <0.03E9C340@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:21:44 -0400
Message-ID:  <200207092127.g69LRCK15857@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:27:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:54:33 -0500, Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET> wrote:
>I will cross a brain cell or two for you, then.  The RNH was
>hired during a hiring freeze/big layoffs.

Thanks for reminding me of that; that helps.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 11:14:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01882
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 11:14:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00108E5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:28:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12933909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 17:28:01 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69LS0K15924 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:28:00 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ0009723MMZY@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 16:27:59 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020709183935.C9C1A7FCF@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2B5505.40103@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:26:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>BTW, officially, he's attached to a group in Texas.
>>
>
> Will he visit?
>


Sure.  He's been down twice to supervise system upgrades.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 11:15:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01891
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 11:15:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00108E88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:29:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12934076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 17:29:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69LTGK16215 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:29:21 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 838A97CDE; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 14:29:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709212908.838A97CDE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:29:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B5505.40103@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 9,
              2002  4:26:29 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Rita Chapman said:
> >
> >>BTW, officially, he's attached to a group in Texas.
> >>
> >
> > Will he visit?
> >
>
>
> Sure.  He's been down twice to supervise system upgrades.

To Dallas? If he comes a little further south, let me know.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 11:35:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01917
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 11:35:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C4CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:43:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12935187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 17:49:14 -0400
Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69LnEK19051 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:49:14 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.6a.2294b910 (3989) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002
          17:49:05 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  7bit
Message-ID:  <6a.2294b910.2a5cb450@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:49:04 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

When I was a kid we never drank Coke; we usually drank the Lawson's
store brand (Lawson's was a local version of 7-11, but it was more
dairy-oriented).  For special occasions we drank Pepsi.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 11:35:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01924
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 11:35:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00109007@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:49:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12935194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 17:49:16 -0400
Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69LnFK19060 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:49:15 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.57.e14d411 (3989) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002
          17:49:07 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <57.e14d411.2a5cb452@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:49:06 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/08/2002 8:51:41 PM Central Daylight Time,
natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes:

<<
bonniev wrote:

> Even worse, perhaps home-baked cakes are considered a Yankee thing.

That's not something I've ever heard.  In fact, it might be kind of
interesting to do a regional break-down on it.
>>

We always made cakes at home, not by scratch, though.
We always used cake mixes and canned frosting.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 11:35:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01928
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 11:35:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00109008@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:49:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12935198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 17:49:18 -0400
Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com (imo-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.164]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69LnHK19064 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:49:17 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.bb.22ae728c (3989) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002
          17:49:10 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  7bit
Message-ID:  <bb.22ae728c.2a5cb455@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:49:09 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Has anyone ever tried Sam's Choice Cola?

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 11:37:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01937
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 11:37:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0010901A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:50:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12935244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 17:50:29 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69LoSK19167 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:50:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 034327CA2; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 14:50:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709215021.034327CA2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:50:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <bb.22ae728c.2a5cb455@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Jul 9,
              2002  5:49: 9 pm"

Evelyn Duncan said:
> Has anyone ever tried Sam's Choice Cola?

Just on one sink and one tub.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 11:37:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01941
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 11:37:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C4E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:45:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12935256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 17:50:47 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69LokK19191 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:50:46 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g69LokU24300
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:50:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709212908.838A97CDE@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B5C57.152D505C@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:57:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Rita Chapman said:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > > Rita Chapman said:
> > >
> > >>BTW, officially, he's attached to a group in Texas.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Will he visit?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Sure.  He's been down twice to supervise system upgrades.
>
> To Dallas? If he comes a little further south, let me know.:)

You want to meet RNH?  Not me.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 11:39:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01945
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 11:39:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C507@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:47:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12935358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 17:52:44 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69LqhK19410 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:52:43 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g69LuxO01811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:56:59
          +0200
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020709235658.A1748@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:56:58 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      casualty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

We've had a lot worse rain than this, but this one was just a lot
at apparently the wrong time.  Our ground floor flooded.  Just
enough to get all the boxes with books and stuff in them wet, and
just wet enough that a fair bit of it won't survive.

We don't spend much time downstairs, and it has a separate
entrance.  So the way we noticed was we were upstairs trying to
surf on the wireless network and we couldn't get a connection.
The server hangs once in a while, so Pat went down to reboot it.
It was down because it and the extension cord it was attached to
were in a puddle.

I've been cleaning, and spreading things out for the last few
hours.  And remembering that they're only things.

One of the casualties was the Claudia Schiffer calendar that
Betty sent to Brad sent to me.  I kept thinking I would send it
to Myles, but I never did.  Now it's going into the trash.

Things could have been much worse - my next door neighbor had a
couple of inches worth of water.  On the other hand, that might
have been better, because then there would be nothing to do
besides throw everything out.

steph
damp in Amsterdam

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 11:54:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02002
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 11:54:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C6C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:02:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12936739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 18:08:16 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69M8GK21793 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:08:16 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws142-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.142]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69M8Dq21277
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:08:14 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708170903.D20007C87@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708124509.00a0fec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020709085826.00a0ecb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B5ECC.45588B3E@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:08:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> It's not like snobbery and conformity are opposites.  One of the reasons
> southern children are rigidly taught to conform to the standards of their
> own social class is so that they will not be thought to be anything like a
> Yankee or anything like poor white trash or anything like a black.  This is
> a form of snobbery.

?  I would agree that "being taught to conform to the standards of
[one's] own social class" might be a kind of snobbery.  What that has to
do with Southern children, though, I'm not sure.  Or at least not with
those I grew up with.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 11:57:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02009
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 11:57:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C6E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:05:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12936845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 18:11:13 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69MBDK22054 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:11:13 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws142-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.142]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69MB7q22460
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:11:07 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F2134HIv6EybqfAj81E0000d149@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B5F7A.9A34B2E5@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:11:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Anne Toal wrote:
>
> Bonnie, you are talking out your ass about something you know nothing of.
> Your postings on the South are far more telling about your own prejudices

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> and ignorance than anything else. If by accident you occasionally include a
> fact in the morass of stereotypes and sock-puppet faces you call "The
> South," it is proof that occasionally the chimpanzee does type a sonnet.

I love abht's postings.  She has a <way with words> and <speaks truth>.
I underlined the part above that is something I've been amused at many
times.  I must admit that I've even used Bonniemae as an example, though
without any identifying info, when talking to students about how the
irony works in dramatic monologues.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 11:57:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02016
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 11:57:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C6E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:05:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12936851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 18:11:19 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69MBJK22073 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:11:19 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020709221113.TKDX29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:11:13 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020709150628.02593ab0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:07:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: [Fwd: Google "Mirror" Site]
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B5079.D4074D71@valstar.net>

alyce cresap writes,

>Go to  http://www.alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/

Then when you have a URL, enter it here: <http://www.silkenladies.com/mirror/>.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 11:58:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02020
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 11:58:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001091E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:11:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12936864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 18:11:27 -0400
Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69MBQK22094 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:11:26 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.186.a63ae4f (3989) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002
          18:11:19 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <186.a63ae4f.2a5cb987@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:11:19 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/09/2002 4:50:35 PM Central Daylight Time,
karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:

<<
Evelyn Duncan said:
> Has anyone ever tried Sam's Choice Cola?

Just on one sink and one tub.:)


>>

Well, they can't tell me how it tastes. :)

This is the first day off I've had in which I can go through email.
There's a lot to go through.  I'm going to get a lot of money for
working all these hours (there have been a lot of people who want
vacuums, so I've been averaging about $2500 in sales per day),
but it's wiping me out.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 12:00:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02032
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 12:00:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C73B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:08:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12937125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 18:14:13 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69MEDK22570 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:14:13 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws142-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.142]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69MDtq23229
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:14:04 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D29F110.1070701@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020708174102.00b2dc70@mail.panax.com>
            <3D2AEDF9.7900FD14@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B6022.EED41479@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:13:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Watching re-runs of the congressional hearings re: Worldcom last night,
> I heard "analyization" instead of "analysis."

Sounds like ordinary English morphology at work.

Speaking of Worldcom, an engineer/bookstore-owner acquaintance joined us
at lunch yesterday and said that he had bought a bunch of Worldcom stock
recently when it was at 6 cents a share.  He was pleased that it had
increased to 25 cents.  He thinks it may be a keeper.  I'm not so sure
about that.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 12:01:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02036
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 12:01:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010922A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:14:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12937192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 18:14:53 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69MErK22668 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:14:53 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws142-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.142]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69MEnq23509
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:14:49 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708202645.9BEAA7D08@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2A4C6F.1010103@swbell.net> <3D2AD382.54EC8900@maynor.net>
            <3D2AFD08.275C23AE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B6058.C122ADA3@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:14:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> Is she fat?

Yes, she is.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 12:02:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02040
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 12:02:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C758@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:10:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12937207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 18:16:12 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69MGCK22776 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:16:12 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws142-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.142]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69MG9q23980
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:16:09 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207091028490.1701-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B60A8.D43C8956@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:16:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> > > > > Well they must have been memorable, as must have been the homemade cakes.
> > > > I have no memories of homemade cakes.  I've tasted them upon occasion
> > > > later in life but not during childhood.  Cake is not at the top of my
> > > > list of favorite foods, but I prefer store-bought.
> > > I *know* you have no memories of homemade cakes, Natalie!  Jeez, I've been
> > > reading the posts!
> > Sorry.  I thought "memorable" meant that one had memories.  So what did
> > you mean by "they must have been memorable"?
>
> I meant, the homemade cakes must have been memorable to those in the Bake
> It From Scratch! contingent.

There wasn't such a contingent, as far as I know.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 12:04:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02044
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 12:04:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C76B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:12:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12937258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 18:17:53 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69MHqK22904 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:17:52 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws142-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.142]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69MHoq24430
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:17:50 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207091149490.407-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B610D.60A0B1F1@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:17:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> I meant to say earlier about Natalie's take on ice cream that it seems
> clear that she is really talking about texture as much as flavor.

Both are important to me.  Re the lumps, it's obviously a matter of
texture.  Re flavor, I want vanilla.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 12:20:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02064
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 12:20:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C841@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:28:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12938011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 18:33:52 -0400
Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (imo-r09.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.105]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69MXqK24765 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:33:52 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.4c.e140217 (3989) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002
          18:33:45 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  7bit
Message-ID:  <4c.e140217.2a5cbec9@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:33:45 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Re:  Ice cream

Friday, when my friend from Florida and I went to Promenade Mall,
we stopped by the Dipping Dots place.  It's an interesting way of
serving ice cream (little BB pellets): I wish they had had a mocha
version (just blend chocolate pellets with coffee pellets).

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 12:22:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02071
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 12:22:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C85A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:30:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12938096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 18:36:08 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69Ma7K25004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:36:07 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws143-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.143]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69Ma5q00014
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:36:05 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2A587F.5C5313A@maynor.net> <3D2B0C29.6080607@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B6523.65554C81@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:35:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> What I find fascinating about your childhood, Natalie,
> doesn't have anything to do with class, but how insular it
> appears to have been.  I find that really remarkable.  Many
> parents strive to achieve something like that for their
> children, but I never thought it was possible.  Maybe it

I didn't find my world remarkable at the time.  It was pretty much the
same world that I read about in school books (Dick and Jane, etc.) and
saw in movies and later in tv shows about families.  But I guess it was
indeed insular.  My family couldn't afford much travel, so we didn't
explore the world that way.  We took regular trips throughout my
childhood to two places, both of them free:  to the annual cottonseed
conventions on the coast and to Lake Bruin in Louisiana.  The latter
trips were to an old, fascinating house/lodge owned by my father's
company for a long time, then sold to a cotton ginner who of course
encouraged the cottonseed oil people to keep using it.  We took the food
but had a free place to stay and fishing boats to use.  Our only other
travel during my childhood was a trip to New Orleans (planned as an
extension of the coast convention one year) because my parents thought
my brother and I should experience NO and a trip to Washington (where we
stayed with my aunt) and NYC because my parents thought that children of
our age needed to experience those cities.  I adored all travel.  The
NYC trip was a major eye-opener.  I'm sure I've written before about the
glazed-eyed people on the subway from Coney Island and about men lying
on the sidewalks in the Bowery.  Those scenes are totally vivid in my
mind's eyes still, even though I was twelve years old.

> isn't possible anymore.  I don't find the idea that boughten
> cakes were popular odd so much as that any deviation would
> be commented upon -- this is really a level of cultural
> conformity I've never encountered.  Please note, not that I
> don't understand cultural norms -- but this seems to be a
> notch above anything I've witnessed and I'm trying to
> understand a culture that would place such emphasis on small
> details of conformity.

I do think it would be fun for you to get to see it.  If we could
arrange for a time machine to take you to Northeast Jackson of the '50s,
I would love it -- because I think you would find it fascinating.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 12:27:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02082
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 12:27:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C883@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:35:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12938219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 18:41:00 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69Mf0K25388 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:41:00 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws143-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.143]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69Meuq01437
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:40:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709021519.1F5AF803F@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2AD2A4.A3347EA8@maynor.net> <3D2B0DC6.8E97EBAA@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B6678.5DD9E31D@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:40:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> And to me, a party is a time of celebration when more than one person is
> present. When your parents had their birthdays, did they have JJ cakes?
> Was no notice taken of birthdays? Please explain.

I always bought birthday presents for my parents, once I was old enough
to know dates and to shop.  I remember that I often gave my mother
packages of bobby pins when I was a small child.  I'd buy them at Morgan
Lindsey while my mother was in the Jitney Jungle.  I assume that my
parents gave presents to each other, though I can't remember what.  And
my brother might have participated in all that, though I don't really
remember.  He's not one to have been likely to remember things like
dates of birthdays.  Whatever gifts were given were presented first
thing in the morning -- at breakfast.  No birthday cakes were involved.
It would never have occurred to me as a child to think that adults would
have bday cakes.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 12:31:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02097
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 12:31:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C8B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:39:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12938403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 18:45:15 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69MjFK25844 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:45:15 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws143-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.143]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69MjAq02611
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:45:11 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708202645.9BEAA7D08@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2A4C6F.1010103@swbell.net> <3D2AD382.54EC8900@maynor.net>
            <3D2B0E5E.831DF6B6@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B6775.B3B568FD@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:45:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> > , quit her regular job, contracted with the most
> > expensive restaurant in town to provide their cakes, and has made
> > fortunes.
>
> So, if you bought a cake from her, would it be better than if you were
> invited to her home and she baked a cake for you?

This question is way too hypothetical on a couple of grounds.  I can't
identify with it.  Re buying a cake from her, I'm not into buying $800
cakes.  Re being served cake in her home, I can't remember ever being
served cake in anybody's home except for something like a bday party.  I
mean would you be likely to serve cake as dessert if giving a dinner
party?

I guess the answer is that I don't know since I don't know what her
cakes are like exactly.  I just know that she sells them for bundles.
She used to be my RRSIL's <social secretary>, and I have in fact been to
her house one time.  But I don't remember that cake was involved.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 12:32:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02101
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 12:32:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C8CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:40:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12938075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 18:45:48 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69MZmK24955 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:35:48 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g69MZmUh012001 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:35:48 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207091835150.9465-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:35:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4c.e140217.2a5cbec9@aol.com>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>Friday, when my friend from Florida and I went to Promenade Mall,
>we stopped by the Dipping Dots place.  It's an interesting way of
>serving ice cream (little BB pellets): I wish they had had a mocha
>version (just blend chocolate pellets with coffee pellets).

I have wondered if these were any good. There is a shop in West Town
Mall.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 12:34:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02105
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 12:34:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9C8E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:42:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12938609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 18:47:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69MloK26335 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:47:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CEB4A8097; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 15:47:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709224746.CEB4A8097@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:47:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B6523.65554C81@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 9,
              2002  5:35:15 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> My family couldn't afford much travel, so we didn't
> explore the world that way.

Whoa! Alternate reality time. I know my upbringing was a lot less
privileged than yours, but we always traveled.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 12:52:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02167
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 12:52:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CA19@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:00:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12939651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 19:05:48 -0400
Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69N5mK28387 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:05:48 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.26.2a51739f (3989) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002
          19:05:27 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <26.2a51739f.2a5cc637@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:05:27 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: wlm
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/09/2002 5:54:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes:

<<
I have wondered if these were any good. There is a shop in West Town
Mall.


>>

Yeah, they are and less messy than regular ice cream.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 13:09:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02195
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 13:09:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CAAB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:17:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12939849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 19:23:01 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f17.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.17]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69ND1K28955 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:13:01 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          9 Jul 2002 16:12:55 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 09
          Jul 2002 23:12:55 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jul 2002 23:12:55.0872 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[28914400:01C2279E]
Message-ID:  <F17vDr94N7GwFOwhDYJ00008971@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:12:55 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: casualty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph, damp in Amsterdam:

>We don't spend much time downstairs, and it has a separate
>entrance.

Not using the downstairs shower anymore?

-rashmi





_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 13:20:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02207
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 13:20:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CB31@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:28:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12940550 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 19:34:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69NY2K30845 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:34:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws27-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.27]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69NXlq15892
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:33:48 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2B1282.10304@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B7288.B34CAFA2@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:32:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Dumb kids
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> Mixing the "slow" kids in with the "fast" kids is called
> inclusion.  It doesn't happen with busing; it's more a
> reverse busing.  In the past, if these kids were permitted
> in school at all (before IDEA in the '70s schools could
> refuse to educate them), they were often in special schools
> for the handicapped, etc.  Now, they go to the regular

"Inclusion" must have replaced "mainstreaming," which is what I thought
the term was for that kind of thing.  I didn't realize that's what
Bonnie was talking about.  I thought she was talking about identifying
parts of a city somehow more likely to have "slow" students and pulling
them into schools in other parts of the city, where the students were
"faster" and "richer," while pulling some of the "faster" and "richer"
students into schools in other parts of town.  That's what sounded like
bussing to me.  I hadn't realized before that the concept of school
districts was something unique to my childhood.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 13:25:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02221
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 13:25:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00109779@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:38:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12940665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 19:38:48 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69NclK31190 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:38:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws27-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.27]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69Nceq17326
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:38:42 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2B18D5.5EA0358@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B73FF.4A5F071C@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:38:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: niggardly
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:
>
> This just appeared on Biblio. I was surprised to see it, as it is
> something that I have removed from my vocabulary. Or is it OK? Does it
> mean raccoon? OR ___?
>
> "Apparently they are trying to snatch back some of their ABE
> associations - one of which I have not been for a coon's age."

I always assumed it meant "the age of a coon."  Whether coons live a
long time, I don't really know, but then there are lots of animal
sayings that are a bit odd -- like "working like a dog."  I'm hoping in
retirement that I might be able to work like the dogs I've known.

Does your "OR ___?" mean the use of the term "coon" to mean "black"?  I
learned of that usage in Intro to Sociology in college, but I'm not
convinced it's a well-known thing.  I've certainly never heard it
outside of that sociology class.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 13:27:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02225
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 13:27:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CB5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:34:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12940716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 19:40:22 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69NeMK31342 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:40:22 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws27-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.27]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69NeHq17682
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:40:20 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207091308500.6898-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B7460.BDA823B0@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:40:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: what I did/was in Texas
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
> My maternal cousins
> are all kickers.

What's a kicker?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 13:29:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02229
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 13:29:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001097BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:42:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12940849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 19:42:30 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69NgTK31606 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:42:29 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g69NgSNa022235 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:42:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020708202645.9BEAA7D08@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2A4C6F.1010103@swbell.net> <3D2AD382.54EC8900@maynor.net>
            <3D2AFD08.275C23AE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020709164203.00a84250@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:42:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B6058.C122ADA3@maynor.net>

At 05:14 PM 7/9/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > Is she fat?
>
>Yes, she is.

Does her appearance disgust you?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 13:39:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02246
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 13:39:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CBF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:47:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12941284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 19:52:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69NqTK00340 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:52:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws98-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.98]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69NqPq20936
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:52:25 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709182451.008037ED6@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B770C.C1C43746@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:51:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > but I don't know
> > what a family birthday party would be.
>
> I weep for you.

Thanks for the sympathy.  I hadn't realized how deprived I'd been.

> > To me a "party" means that people
> > are invited to come to your house (or possibly some other site) at a
> > particular time -- people who wouldn't be there normally.
>
> Hm. To me it involves certain behaviors. Like candles, making wishes,
> and being sung Happy Birthday to.

I said "a party."  To me "birthday party" involves candles, wishes, and
song, but that's the "birthday" part. The "party" part remains the same
in my view -- people invited to come to an event.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 13:42:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02253
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 13:42:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CC0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:50:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12941354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 19:55:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69NthK00539 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:55:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 746117DA6; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 16:55:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020709235539.746117DA6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:55:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B770C.C1C43746@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 9,
              2002  6:51:40 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> > Hm. To me it involves certain behaviors. Like candles, making wishes,
> > and being sung Happy Birthday to.
>
> I said "a party."  To me "birthday party" involves candles, wishes, and
> song, but that's the "birthday" part. The "party" part remains the same
> in my view -- people invited to come to an event.

Alyce said it better than I did.

One of my best birthdays in recent memory was when my sister came to
visit me with two of her kids. We had a party at dinner time,
including a special homemade card. I'm sorry you've missed out on all
that. (The cake was bought, though.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 13:44:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02260
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 13:44:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00109898@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:58:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12941423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 19:58:00 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69Nw0K00710 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:58:00 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws98-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.98]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g69Nvsq22314
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:57:54 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709183230.A07967DC5@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B7881.1FD59D71@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:57:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > No doubt at
> > some point in my childhood I falsely assumed that all mothers taught
> > Sunday School and were active in The Little Theatre.  As I grew older, I
> > realized that was not the case.
>
> Did you never have any friends? My friend's families were quite
> different from mine--mostly in that they didn't have as many kids.
> (I'm talking pre-grade-school friends.) But their parents did
> different things from mine, too.

That was my point -- that one catches on as time passes that not all
parents do the same things.  But I'm not convinced that a toddler
figures out such things.  That's like what I was saying earlier about
black/white separation and male/female separation.  I'm not sure that
most toddlers are capable of understanding the difference between
segregation based on genitalia or segregation based on skin color.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 13:47:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02272
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 13:47:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001098B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:00:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12941470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:00:23 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A00MK00935 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:00:22 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws98-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.98]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A00Kq23270
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:00:21 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709184402.B109D7FB8@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B7913.1161515A@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:00:19 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
> > doesn't have anything to do with class, but how insular it
> > appears to have been.  I find that really remarkable.
>
> Me, too. I grew up in a cultural enclave, but we left it on
> occasion--and on one of those I saw a policeman beat a black man for
> no discernable reason.

Your being able to leave your cultural enclave suggests to me that you
were of more affluence than I was.  But I'm not sure that I regret my
insularity.  I think I would have been traumatized beyond recovery to
witness a beating.  It was scary enough at age 12 to see men asleep on
sidewalks in NYC.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 13:49:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02276
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 13:49:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CC40@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:56:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12941527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:02:23 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A02MK01157 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:02:22 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6A02LNa008606 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:02:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D2B770C.C1C43746@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020709170045.00a82340@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:02:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Birthdays
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020709235539.746117DA6@yellow.rahul.net>

At 04:55 PM 7/9/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Natalie Maynor said:
> > > Hm. To me it involves certain behaviors. Like candles, making wishes,
> > > and being sung Happy Birthday to.
> >
> > I said "a party."  To me "birthday party" involves candles, wishes, and
> > song, but that's the "birthday" part. The "party" part remains the same
> > in my view -- people invited to come to an event.
>
>Alyce said it better than I did.
>
>One of my best birthdays in recent memory was when my sister came to
>visit me with two of her kids. We had a party at dinner time,
>including a special homemade card. I'm sorry you've missed out on all
>that. (The cake was bought, though.)

Why are you sorry?   It's special to you because of your memories. Natalie
has her own memories.  I can't remember any birthdays growing up.  I CRS.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 13:51:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02280
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 13:51:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00109908@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:05:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12941613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:05:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A057K01366 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:05:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6AF0E7ED4; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 17:05:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710000500.6AF0E7ED4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:05:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B7881.1FD59D71@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 9,
              2002  6:57:53 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> That was my point -- that one catches on as time passes that not all
> parents do the same things.

It sounds, though, that it was far later than kindergarten that you
figured this out.

> But I'm not convinced that a toddler
> figures out such things.

Who's talking about toddlers? A 4 or 5 year old isn't a toddler.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 13:52:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02287
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 13:52:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CC62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:00:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12941636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:06:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A06HK01454 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:06:17 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1DDAD7DA6; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 17:06:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710000616.1DDAD7DA6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:06:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B7913.1161515A@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 9,
              2002  7: 0:19 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Rita Chapman said:
> > > doesn't have anything to do with class, but how insular it
> > > appears to have been.  I find that really remarkable.
> >
> > Me, too. I grew up in a cultural enclave, but we left it on
> > occasion--and on one of those I saw a policeman beat a black man for
> > no discernable reason.
>
> Your being able to leave your cultural enclave suggests to me that you
> were of more affluence than I was.

I sincerely doubt that. I don't remember how much busfare was, but it
wasn't a lot.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 13:53:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02291
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 13:53:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CC69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:01:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12941662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:07:00 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A06xK01515 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:06:59 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws98-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.98]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A06uq24938
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:06:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207091558500.12937-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B7A9F.C511CC36@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:06:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: niggardly
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tom Lee wrote:
>
>         I was in college before I found out that "coon" was a racial slur.

Ditto.  I remember it distinctly because I (and the classmates I talked
to later) found it way weird.  This not-very-good sociology teacher --
first year at Millsaps, possibly only year -- was talking about an
article related to race that was written by somebody named Coon (maybe
Koon).  He (this not-very-good teacher) looked around the classroom with
a strange face, like he was expecting some kind of comment about the
name.  (I should add that this teacher was a Yankee.)  We looked blank.
He then said something about how "coon" was a slur against blacks --
presumably he said "Negroes," since that was the usual term at that
time.  We still looked blank.  He seemed quite angry that we didn't know
that "coon" was supposed to mean "Negro."  I remember talking to
classmates after that class, and we all agreed that he was <way weird>.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 13:56:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02295
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 13:56:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00109940@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:09:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12941714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:09:34 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A09YK01728 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:09:34 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws98-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.98]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A09Vq25484
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:09:31 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709235658.A1748@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B7B3A.1C83BC93@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:09:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: casualty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

>   And remembering that they're only things.

That is indeed a good attitude, but what a pisser!

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:07:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02311
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:07:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CCAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:15:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12941898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:20:49 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A0KnK02418 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:20:49 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws98-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.98]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A0Klq28126
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:20:47 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709224746.CEB4A8097@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B7DDE.105BDCCC@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:20:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > My family couldn't afford much travel, so we didn't
> > explore the world that way.
>
> Whoa! Alternate reality time. I know my upbringing was a lot less
> privileged than yours, but we always traveled.

Why exactly do you think that your upbringing was less privileged than
mine?  I think mine was privileged in looking back on it since it is
true that we did not want for food or shelter and that we children were
shielded from worry about finances, though it was clear to me as I got
old enough to listen and think that every month was a pretty big
challenge for my parents.  And my parents did firmly believe that
children should be sent to college, since both of them had been.  So
yes, that's what I would now call a privileged upbringing.  But we
certainly couldn't afford things like travel, except for those two trips
(NO and NYC) that my parents saved long and hard to provide (the NO one
wasn't all that expensive).  Nor did I have many or expensive clothes.
Nor did we do things that many of my friends did like go out to eat on
an impulse.  Etc. etc.  We were certainly far from poor.  But we were
also in no way rich.  I remember when some of my friends came over to my
house in our usual roaming about on xmas day, looking at each other's
xmas presents, and I showed them with pride my two gifts -- a blue
notebook (the zipper kind) and the record album of "Carousel."  They
were looking around for more stuff -- one of them looked at an ancient
radio near by bed and said, "And did you get that radio?"  I said, "No,
it used to be in my parents' bedroom, but they gave it to me a long time
ago."

But back to the question.  Why do you think your background was less
<privileged> than mine?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:08:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02323
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:08:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CCB4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:16:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12941920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:21:44 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A0LiK02458 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:21:44 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws98-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.98]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A0Lgq28313
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:21:42 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708202645.9BEAA7D08@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2A4C6F.1010103@swbell.net> <3D2AD382.54EC8900@maynor.net>
            <3D2AFD08.275C23AE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020709164203.00a84250@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B7E15.86CD3D81@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:21:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> > > Is she fat?
> >
> >Yes, she is.
>
> Does her appearance disgust you?

No.  Why would it disgust me?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:11:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02327
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:11:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CD02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:19:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12942249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:24:51 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A0OpK03079 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:24:51 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws98-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.98]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A0Omq29038
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:24:48 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709235539.746117DA6@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B7ECF.A69E7C1D@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:24:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> including a special homemade card. I'm sorry you've missed out on all
> that.

I always wanted to be part of a big family.  But that wasn't something I
could orchestrate.  And nobody gets everything in life that he/she
wants.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:13:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02334
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:13:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CD0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:21:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12942283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:26:43 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A0QgK03178 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:26:42 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws98-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.98]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A0Qeq29436
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:26:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710000500.6AF0E7ED4@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B7F3F.F258526E@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:26:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > That was my point -- that one catches on as time passes that not all
> > parents do the same things.
>
> It sounds, though, that it was far later than kindergarten that you
> figured this out.

I'm not sure why you think that.

> > But I'm not convinced that a toddler
> > figures out such things.
>
> Who's talking about toddlers? A 4 or 5 year old isn't a toddler.

I'm not sure when we were talking about 4 or 5.  Perhaps we were.  I
realize, of course, that you were a much more <advanced> child than I
was.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:20:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02344
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:20:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CD3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:28:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12942451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:33:49 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A0XmK03681 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:33:48 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000071;
          9 Jul 02 20:33:34 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 9 Jul 02
          20:33:15 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000070; 9 Jul 02 20:33:08 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D2B4884.2508.A6EDEF73@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:33:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Frankenstein
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I imagine I'm not unique in having absorbed various elements of the
literary canon without having actually read them. For instance I have
never read or seen a performance of Richard III, but I can give you a
basic plot summary. I think I mentioned this same situation with
Nabokov's Lolita, which I did finally read a couple of years ago,
despite having known the story in fair detail long before.

Now it's Frankenstein's turn, and this time I find the reality much
more different from what I thought I knew than was the case with some
other works I've come late to. Where did the images I had come from?
I haven't seen a Frankenstein movie, nor read comic books or the like
dealing with it, but I thought I knew something of the story. But I
find I had missed the fundamental elements of the plot entirely, and
also missed the fact that Shelley was only 19 when she wrote it. In
many ways it read like an adolescent's composition.

But two odd word usages jumped out at me: "compassionated" (used just
once):

"I compassionated him, and sometimes felt a wish to console him; but
when I looked upon him, when I saw the filthy mass that moved and
talked, my heart sickened, and my feelings were altered to those of
horror and hatred."

and a use of "discovered" I've never encountered (used several
times):

"I ought to have familiarised the old De Lacey to me, and by degrees
to have discovered myself to the rest of his family, when they should
have been prepared for my approach."

Were either of these standard when this was written? Google lists
compassionated mostly as a G.W. Bushism, and I can't figure out a way
of exploring this use of discovered.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:22:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02355
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:22:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00109AB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:36:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12942506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:36:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A0aEK03845 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:36:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7BDE8813F; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 17:36:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710003613.7BDE8813F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:36:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B7DDE.105BDCCC@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 9,
              2002  7:20:46 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Why exactly do you think that your upbringing was less privileged than
> mine?  I think mine was privileged in looking back on it since it is
> true that we did not want for food or shelter and that we children were
> shielded from worry about finances, though it was clear to me as I got
> old enough to listen and think that every month was a pretty big
> challenge for my parents.  And my parents did firmly believe that
> children should be sent to college, since both of them had been.  So
> yes, that's what I would now call a privileged upbringing.

For one thing, none of us were 'sent to college'.

> Nor did I have many or expensive clothes.

I uniforms for school and handmedowns the rest of the time.

> Nor did we do things that many of my friends did like go out to eat on
> an impulse.

I don't remember my family ever going out to eat, except at
relatives. For one thing, we couldn't all fit in one car. And we
didn't own the one car we had--it was a company car.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:23:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02359
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:23:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CD50@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:31:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12942522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:37:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A0bFK03919 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:37:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 410537D42; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 17:37:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710003714.410537D42@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:37:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B7F3F.F258526E@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 9,
              2002  7:26:39 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > That was my point -- that one catches on as time passes that not all
> > > parents do the same things.
> >
> > It sounds, though, that it was far later than kindergarten that you
> > figured this out.
>
> I'm not sure why you think that.

Because of what you said.

> > > But I'm not convinced that a toddler
> > > figures out such things.
> >
> > Who's talking about toddlers? A 4 or 5 year old isn't a toddler.
>
> I'm not sure when we were talking about 4 or 5.  Perhaps we were.

I was, explicitly.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:26:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02363
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:26:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00109AE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:39:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12942691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:39:21 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A0dLK04295 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:39:21 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws197-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.197]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A0dIq02917
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:39:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710000616.1DDAD7DA6@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B8207.24D9BA90@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:38:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > Your being able to leave your cultural enclave suggests to me that you
> > were of more affluence than I was.
>
> I sincerely doubt that. I don't remember how much busfare was, but it
> wasn't a lot.

I certainly rode the bus to downtown Jackson at times, though I don't
remember thinking that the busfare was chickenfeed.  But I saw no
strange sights there, and I never tried riding a bus to places farther
away than downtown.  I don't think I would have known how to do that,
and where would I have gotten off, and what would I have done in the
middle of some strange residential neighborhood on the other side of
town?  Yes, I was provincial.  Things like trying to make my way into
South or West Jackson on a bus never occurred to me as something I
<should> do.  I did take the Trailways Bus to visit people I had met who
lived in other parts of Mississippi.  That was super fun.  And that was
when I discovered that small-town life is in fact different from city
life.  I absolutely adored the time I spent in Wiggins, MS.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:26:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02370
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:26:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CD79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:34:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12942707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:39:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A0dhK04320 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:39:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DE4997DF0; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 17:39:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710003942.DE4997DF0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:39:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Frankenstein
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B4884.2508.A6EDEF73@localhost> from Tony Harminc at "Jul 9,
              2002  8:33: 8 pm"

Tony Harminc said:
> and a use of "discovered" I've never encountered (used several
> times):
>
> "I ought to have familiarised the old De Lacey to me, and by degrees
> to have discovered myself to the rest of his family, when they should
> have been prepared for my approach."
>
> Were either of these standard when this was written?

I think 'discovered' was; I've come across that before.

> Google lists
> compassionated mostly as a G.W. Bushism,

Isn't it ugly?!

> and I can't figure out a way
> of exploring this use of discovered.

Hm...

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:29:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02374
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:29:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CD88@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:37:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12942783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:42:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A0geK04558 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:42:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 80DE08190; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 17:42:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710004239.80DE08190@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:42:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B8207.24D9BA90@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 9,
              2002  7:38:31 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> I certainly rode the bus to downtown Jackson at times, though I don't
> remember thinking that the busfare was chickenfeed.  But I saw no
> strange sights there, and I never tried riding a bus to places farther
> away than downtown.  I don't think I would have known how to do that,
> and where would I have gotten off, and what would I have done in the
> middle of some strange residential neighborhood on the other side of
> town?

These explorations mostly took place with friends, and we were somehow
confident we could figure out the right buses. We didn't go to
residential neighborhoods; the time I saw the beating, we were getting
concert tickets, I think.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:32:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02386
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:32:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00109B35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:45:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12942494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:45:49 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A0ZcK03809 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:35:38 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6A0ZbUh013674 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:35:37 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207092035001.13761-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:35:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: niggardly
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B73FF.4A5F071C@maynor.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>Does your "OR ___?" mean the use of the term "coon" to mean "black"?  I
>learned of that usage in Intro to Sociology in college, but I'm not
>convinced it's a well-known thing.  I've certainly never heard it
>outside of that sociology class.

I don't recall a time when I did not know that. I have heard it all my
life.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:33:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02393
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:33:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00109B4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:46:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12942510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:46:15 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A0aFK03850 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:36:15 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6A0aEUh013807 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:36:14 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207092035510.13761-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:36:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: what I did/was in Texas
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B7460.BDA823B0@maynor.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> My maternal cousins
>> are all kickers.
>
>What's a kicker?

Hint #1: kicker is half a word.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:34:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02397
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:34:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CDC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:42:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12942961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:47:54 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A0lsK04918 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:47:54 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws197-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.197]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A0lpq05175
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:47:51 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2B4884.2508.A6EDEF73@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B8435.8E021423@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:47:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Frankenstein
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tony Harminc wrote:

> Now it's Frankenstein's turn, and this time I find the reality much
> more different from what I thought I knew than was the case with some
> other works I've come late to. Where did the images I had come from?

People's general allusions (mainly people who've never read the book)?

> I haven't seen a Frankenstein movie, nor read comic books or the like
> dealing with it, but I thought I knew something of the story. But I
> find I had missed the fundamental elements of the plot entirely, and
> also missed the fact that Shelley was only 19 when she wrote it. In
> many ways it read like an adolescent's composition.

She supposedly first composed it when it was her turn in the telling of
horror-stories one summer when she and Percy and others of their gang
were staying in the mountains in Switzerland and entertaining each other
at night with ghost stories.  They were also, of course, discussing
various topics of the day like whether human life could be created in an
artificial way.  Supposedly she put that idea together with the
horror-story idea.  But mainly I think it's a social-protest novel.
Yes, it reads like an adolescent's composition, but I find it an
interesting book in many ways.

> But two odd word usages jumped out at me: "compassionated" (used just
> once):
>
> "I compassionated him, and sometimes felt a wish to console him; but
> when I looked upon him, when I saw the filthy mass that moved and
> talked, my heart sickened, and my feelings were altered to those of
> horror and hatred."

I don't know compassionated, but it does seem to be another case of
morphological <normalcy>.  A good invention, though I guess it just
didn't stick.

> and a use of "discovered" I've never encountered (used several
> times):
>
> "I ought to have familiarised the old De Lacey to me, and by degrees
> to have discovered myself to the rest of his family, when they should
> have been prepared for my approach."

This one sounds more familiar to me.  I can't give any references, but I
do think I've seen it in British novels.

> Were either of these standard when this was written? Google lists
> compassionated mostly as a G.W. Bushism, and I can't figure out a way
> of exploring this use of discovered.

Don't know.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:36:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02401
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:36:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00109B72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:49:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12942715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:49:45 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A0diK04327 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:39:44 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6A0diUh015610 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:39:44 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207092038520.13761-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:39:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B6523.65554C81@maynor.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I didn't find my world remarkable at the time.  It was pretty much the
>same world that I read about in school books (Dick and Jane, etc.) and

That explains a lot. I KNEW that the Dick and Jane books were fiction.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:38:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02418
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:38:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CDDD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:46:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12942769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:51:34 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A0fYK04486 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:41:34 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6A0fXUh016632 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:41:33 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207092039550.13761-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:41:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B6775.B3B568FD@maynor.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>cakes.  Re being served cake in her home, I can't remember ever being
>served cake in anybody's home except for something like a bday party.  I
>mean would you be likely to serve cake as dessert if giving a dinner
>party?

Of course. Perhaps a cheesecake? WHat do/would you serve for
dessert? Pie? Cookies? Ice cream? Pudding? Nothing?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:42:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02422
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:42:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CDF1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:50:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12942839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:55:29 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A0jSK04715 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:45:28 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6A0jRUh018593 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:45:27 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207092041590.13761-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:45:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B8207.24D9BA90@maynor.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I certainly rode the bus to downtown Jackson at times, though I don't
>remember thinking that the busfare was chickenfeed.  But I saw no

I rode buses as soon as we moved to Beaumont. Then one year there was a
bus strike. I had what I considered a very large allowance at that time -
$5 a week (it was because I had to go to rehearsals for the Theatre League
I was active in). Since there were no buses to ride for several weeks, I
walked everywhere, and I discovered that it was a lot more fun to have
lots of money than to ride buses. After the strike ended, I still walked
most of the time. But I rode them on some occasions until I was in college
(there were no buses to the campus).

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:42:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02429
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:42:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CDFC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:50:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12943129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 20:56:18 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A0uHK05404 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:56:18 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws197-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.197]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A0uFq07312
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:56:15 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710003613.7BDE8813F@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B862E.5DD31CC1@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:56:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> For one thing, none of us were 'sent to college'.

Different strokes for different folks.  I get the impression from things
you've said that your family had much more money than mine did, but it
was spread thinner because of the size of your family.  My parents
planned my brother and me to fit tuition -- four years apart.

> I uniforms for school and handmedowns the rest of the time.

There really wasn't any way for me to have handmedowns since girls back
then didn't wear a boy's clothes to school.  (I did, of course, wear my
brother's handmedowns for play.)  I don't know anything about uniforms.
Were they free?

> I don't remember my family ever going out to eat, except at
> relatives. For one thing, we couldn't all fit in one car. And we
> didn't own the one car we had--it was a company car.

We had no relatives in town, once my grandparents died.  We could most
definitely fit into one car, though.  Company cars are great.  I think
I've said before that even though the company Daddy worked for didn't
pay well, it did offer some very helpful perks, like the company car and
the insistence that it be used for everything, personal or business, and
like those conventions on the coast and the visits to Lake Bruin.  It
was a good life, in spite of low pay.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 14:51:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02442
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 14:51:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CE34@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:59:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12943294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:04:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A14WK06078 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:04:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3927C7DBC; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 18:04:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710010431.3927C7DBC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:04:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B862E.5DD31CC1@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 9,
              2002  7:56:14 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Different strokes for different folks.  I get the impression from things
> you've said that your family had much more money than mine did, but it
> was spread thinner because of the size of your family.

I don't think so.

> > I uniforms for school and handmedowns the rest of the time.
>
> There really wasn't any way for me to have handmedowns since girls back
> then didn't wear a boy's clothes to school.  (I did, of course, wear my
> brother's handmedowns for play.)  I don't know anything about uniforms.
> Were they free?

No, those were handmedowns, too.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:04:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02474
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:04:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CE9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:12:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12943678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:17:30 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A1HTK07214 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:17:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws225-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.225]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A1HRq13661
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:17:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F2134HIv6EybqfAj81E0000d149@hotmail.com>
            <3D2B5F7A.9A34B2E5@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B8B26.30FCE93C@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:17:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
...
> > Your postings on the South are far more telling about your own prejudices
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
...
> I underlined the part above that is something I've been amused at many

But the underlining didn't end up in the right place.  It was supposed
to be farther to the right.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:04:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02481
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:04:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CEA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:12:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12943690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:18:11 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A1IBK07280 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:18:11 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws225-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.225]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A1I8q13969
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:18:09 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207092035510.13761-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B8B4F.DA0B6F6E@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:18:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: what I did/was in Texas
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >What's a kicker?
>
> Hint #1: kicker is half a word.

Asskicker?  Bucketkicker?  Footballkicker?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:05:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02490
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:05:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CEA8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:13:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12943706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:18:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A1IxK07338 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:18:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0D66E7FB9; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 18:18:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710011857.0D66E7FB9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:18:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: what I did/was in Texas
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B8B4F.DA0B6F6E@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 9,
              2002  8:18: 7 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> > >What's a kicker?
> >
> > Hint #1: kicker is half a word.
>
> Asskicker?  Bucketkicker?  Footballkicker?

Shitkicker, I think.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:06:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02494
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:06:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CEAB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:13:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12943714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:19:26 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A1JQK07396 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:19:26 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws225-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.225]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A1JOq14385
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:19:24 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207092038520.13761-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B8B9B.BAD2055D@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:19:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >I didn't find my world remarkable at the time.  It was pretty much the
> >same world that I read about in school books (Dick and Jane, etc.) and
>
> That explains a lot. I KNEW that the Dick and Jane books were fiction.

But my life seemed very much like theirs, except that we didn't have a
cat or a baby sister and my grandparents lived in an apartment in the
heart of Jackson rather than on a farm.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:08:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02498
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:08:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CEBE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:16:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12943777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:21:33 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A1LXK07576 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:21:33 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws225-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.225]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A1LUq14961
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:21:30 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207092039550.13761-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B8C19.DDAB3BB4@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:21:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >mean would you be likely to serve cake as dessert if giving a dinner
> >party?
>
> Of course. Perhaps a cheesecake? WHat do/would you serve for
> dessert? Pie? Cookies? Ice cream? Pudding? Nothing?

Normally I serve vanilla ice cream with something like blueberries or
Amoretta or Tia Maria on top if desired.  I realize that those of
<sophisticated> palates serve things like fruit concoctions for dessert,
but fruit has never seemed like a dessert to me.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:10:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02510
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:10:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CED1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:18:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12943860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:23:56 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A1NuK07761 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:23:56 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ0009N8EJVZZ@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 20:23:56 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020709185010.3BFC07CFA@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2B8C52.1050409@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:22:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Hey, Marie! (Cold Ginger Chicken)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Doris Markland said:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Is "newest friend" the same as what she used
>>>>to call her "new friend"?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>No.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>If there a newer one?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Yes. I think I will call him *er*.
>>>
>>
>>I will never keep them all straight now.
>>
>
> I think I confused the matter. There is My New Friend, and there is
> *er*.  That's it.
>
> For now.
>


        My, my, you do get around *wink*.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:12:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02517
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:12:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00109D94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:26:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12943940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:26:13 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A1QCK07938 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:26:12 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ000A7WENO0A@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 20:26:12 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020709184015.DE1A67FCF@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2B8CDB.2000302@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:24:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Rita Chapman said:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Peter Levy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>PS What's a Flivver?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>It's a nickname for the Ford Model T.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Nah, it's a jalopy. AHD says: "Slang An automobile, especially one
>>>that is small, inexpensive, and old. ETYMOLOGY:Origin unknown."
>>>
>>>
>>In period literature, it nearly always refers to a Model T.
>>
>
> Well, yeah, but it's used a lot outside of period literature, IME.
>


I've never seen it or heard it outside period literature,
which is why I pulled it out of my brain as an example of a
very obscure word.  I've only ever heard of jalopies (which
I also think of as a period word that I never hear) as
junkers, wrecks, hoopties, etc.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:13:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02524
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:13:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CEED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:21:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12943968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:27:09 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A1R9K08029 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:27:09 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ000AUWEP907@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 20:27:09 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207091127090.407-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D2B8D13.6030704@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:25:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: The church of SpongeBob Squarepants
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:
>
>
>>>Could not find it.
>>>
>>I don't wonder. There is an extra O in there.
>>
>>http://www.churchofspongebob.org
>>
>
> I did. One page was enough!
>


        I believe in places it holds its own against the BCP.  I need
to show it to Fr. Rich.  I'd love to hear what he does with
it in a sermon.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:14:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02533
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:14:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00109DAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:28:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12943981 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:28:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A1RxK08056 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:27:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D2EF47DD0; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 18:27:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710012701.D2EF47DD0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:27:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Marie! (Cold Ginger Chicken)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B8C52.1050409@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 9,
              2002  8:22:26 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Rita Chapman said:
> >
> >>Karen Kay wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Doris Markland said:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Is "newest friend" the same as what she used
> >>>>to call her "new friend"?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>No.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>If there a newer one?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Yes. I think I will call him *er*.
> >>>
> >>
> >>I will never keep them all straight now.
> >>
> >
> > I think I confused the matter. There is My New Friend, and there is
> > *er*.  That's it.
> >
> > For now.
> >
>
>
>         My, my, you do get around *wink*.

Yeah, more than Bethany...

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:14:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02542
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:14:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CEF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:22:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12943987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:28:13 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A1SDK08081 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:28:13 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws225-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.225]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A1SBq16749
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:28:11 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207092041590.13761-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B8DAA.F58BAB86@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:28:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> bus strike. I had what I considered a very large allowance at that time -
> $5 a week (it was because I had to go to rehearsals for the Theatre League

What all did you have to buy with your allowance?  That does strike me
as extremely high, though it may be because I didn't have to buy as much
stuff with mine.  The highest I ever reached in allowances was 50 cents
a week.  But I was given the offical school lunch money on top of that
and was not expected to buy my own <normal> stuff with my allowance --
like clothes or school supplies or doctor/dental costs or whatever.  My
allowance was purely for my own pleasure.  It was a nickel for a long
time, then moved to a dime, then finally a quarter when I was getting on
up there in age, and finally fifty cents.

> walked everywhere, and I discovered that it was a lot more fun to have
> lots of money than to ride buses. After the strike ended, I still walked

I've always liked walking.  I walked lots and lots of places throughout
childhood and teenaged years.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:16:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02556
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:16:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CF02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:24:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12944039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:30:11 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A1UBK08235 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:30:11 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B214E7D42; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 18:30:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710013010.B214E7D42@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:30:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B8CDB.2000302@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 9,
              2002  8:24:43 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Rita Chapman said:
> >
> >>Karen Kay wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Rita Chapman said:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Peter Levy wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>PS What's a Flivver?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>It's a nickname for the Ford Model T.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Nah, it's a jalopy. AHD says: "Slang An automobile, especially one
> >>>that is small, inexpensive, and old. ETYMOLOGY:Origin unknown."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>In period literature, it nearly always refers to a Model T.
> >>
> >
> > Well, yeah, but it's used a lot outside of period literature, IME.
> >
>
>
> I've never seen it or heard it outside period literature,
> which is why I pulled it out of my brain as an example of a
> very obscure word.  I've only ever heard of jalopies (which
> I also think of as a period word that I never hear) as
> junkers, wrecks, hoopties, etc.

The last time I remember hearing the word was at my family reunion a
couple of years ago, when my aunts and uncles were telling stories of
their youth.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:17:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02560
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:17:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CF11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:24:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12944078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:30:24 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A1UNK08262 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:30:23 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws225-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.225]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A1UGq17338
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:30:16 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710010431.3927C7DBC@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B8E27.3D59BB85@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:30:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > Different strokes for different folks.  I get the impression from things
> > you've said that your family had much more money than mine did, but it
> > was spread thinner because of the size of your family.
>
> I don't think so.

What gives you that impression?  I'm curious.

> > brother's handmedowns for play.)  I don't know anything about uniforms.
> > Were they free?
>
> No, those were handmedowns, too.

So all of your siblings went to a school with uniforms?  My only
first-hand knowledge of uniforms is seeing children on trains in Tokyo
in school uniforms.  There were no uniforms in Jackson.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:18:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02564
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:18:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00109DF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:32:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12944125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:32:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A1WFK08423 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:32:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 875F17D42; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 18:32:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710013214.875F17D42@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:32:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B8DAA.F58BAB86@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 9,
              2002  8:28:10 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> But I was given the offical school lunch money on top of that

I always brought my lunch. (Is this the poor-mouthing you so despise?)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:21:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02570
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:21:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9CF2B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:28:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12944162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:34:23 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A1YNK08610 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:34:23 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5EC407D42; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 18:34:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710013422.5EC407D42@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:34:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B8E27.3D59BB85@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 9,
              2002  8:30:15 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > Different strokes for different folks.  I get the impression from things
> > > you've said that your family had much more money than mine did, but it
> > > was spread thinner because of the size of your family.
> >
> > I don't think so.
>
> What gives you that impression?  I'm curious.

Almost everything that comes out of your mouth about your chilhood.
And the fact that your parents could afford to pay for college.

> So all of your siblings went to a school with uniforms?

Yes, until we moved when I was 16.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:35:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02589
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:35:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00109ECC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:48:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12944254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:48:46 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A1cjK08927 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:38:45 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6A1cjUh004856 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:38:45 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207092136330.14114-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:38:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: what I did/was in Texas
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020710011857.0D66E7FB9@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> > Hint #1: kicker is half a word.
>>
>> Asskicker?  Bucketkicker?  Footballkicker?
>
>Shitkicker, I think.

Right. Hint #2 would have been:

The call letters of a popular radio station in Houston are KIKK.

S***kickers are cowboy boots, originally, then persons who wear cowboy
boots.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:38:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02600
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:38:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00109EF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:51:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12944505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:51:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A1poK10001 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:51:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3890E7DEA; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 18:51:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710015149.3890E7DEA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:51:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: what I did/was in Texas
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207092136330.14114-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 9, 2002  9:38:45 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> S***kickers are cowboy boots, originally, then persons who wear cowboy
> boots.

I first learned this term for heavy boots, like hiking boots. But Lyle
Lovett uses this term as an adjective somewhere in his lyrics.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:39:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02609
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:39:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00109EFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:52:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12944331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 21:52:22 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A1gMK09289 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:42:22 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6A1gMUh006064 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:42:22 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207092140220.14114-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:42:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B8DAA.F58BAB86@maynor.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> $5 a week (it was because I had to go to rehearsals for the Theatre League
>
>What all did you have to buy with your allowance?  That does strike me
>as extremely high, though it may be because I didn't have to buy as much
>stuff with mine.  The highest I ever reached in allowances was 50 cents

I had to pay for all transportation and entertainment - mostly movies -
plus any snacks out. I went to at least one movie a week. I would skip a
meal in order to be able to go to a movie.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 15:57:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02637
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 15:57:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9D066@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:05:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12945123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 22:10:42 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A2AfK11648 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:10:41 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws8-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.8]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A2Acq29000
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:10:39 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710013214.875F17D42@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B979D.F80449B7@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:10:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > But I was given the offical school lunch money on top of that
>
> I always brought my lunch. (Is this the poor-mouthing you so despise?)

Poor-mouthing?  Why would that be poor-mouthing?  It was very strictly
against the rules in my schools, though.  Eating in the cafeteria was
required, and no brown-bagging was allowed at all.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 16:01:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02654
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 16:01:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9D08D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:08:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12945253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 22:14:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A2EMK11972 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:14:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C11B07DEA; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 19:14:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710021421.C11B07DEA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:14:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B979D.F80449B7@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 9,
              2002  9:10:37 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > But I was given the offical school lunch money on top of that
> >
> > I always brought my lunch. (Is this the poor-mouthing you so despise?)
>
> Poor-mouthing?  Why would that be poor-mouthing?  It was very strictly
> against the rules in my schools, though.  Eating in the cafeteria was
> required, and no brown-bagging was allowed at all.

The grade school and high school (same bldg) I went to had no
cafeteria--we ate lunch at our desks.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 16:01:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02658
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 16:01:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0010A01E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:14:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12945261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 22:14:42 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A2EgK11990 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:14:42 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ000AEDGWH0E@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 21:14:41 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020710013010.B214E7D42@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2B9838.4090207@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:13:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Rita Chapman said:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Rita Chapman said:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Peter Levy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>PS What's a Flivver?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's a nickname for the Ford Model T.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Nah, it's a jalopy. AHD says: "Slang An automobile, especially one
>>>>>that is small, inexpensive, and old. ETYMOLOGY:Origin unknown."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>In period literature, it nearly always refers to a Model T.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Well, yeah, but it's used a lot outside of period literature, IME.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I've never seen it or heard it outside period literature,
>>which is why I pulled it out of my brain as an example of a
>>very obscure word.  I've only ever heard of jalopies (which
>>I also think of as a period word that I never hear) as
>>junkers, wrecks, hoopties, etc.
>>
>
> The last time I remember hearing the word was at my family reunion a
> couple of years ago, when my aunts and uncles were telling stories of
> their youth.
>


Oh, that's pretty close to period LOL.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 16:02:12 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02662
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 16:02:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010A02E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:15:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12945300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 22:15:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A2FTK12104 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:15:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws8-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.8]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A2FRq00372
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:15:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710013422.5EC407D42@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B98BE.D33E7A44@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:15:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > What gives you that impression?  I'm curious.
>
> Almost everything that comes out of your mouth about your chilhood.
> And the fact that your parents could afford to pay for college.

My college tuition was $200 a year.  True, that was quite a bit of money
back then, but I don't see it as quite as staggering as you seem to see
it.  I would guess that feeding a family of the size of your ran through
far more extra money than that.  (And the textbook prices are still in
the backs of the books I bought in college -- those I kept instead of
selling back, of course.  Even a new book was around $1.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 16:06:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02671
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 16:06:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9D0C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:14:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12945399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 22:19:36 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A2JaK12428 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:19:36 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws8-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.8]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A2JXq01510
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:19:33 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207092140220.14114-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B99B4.D6B6E5F4@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:19:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> I had to pay for all transportation and entertainment - mostly movies -
> plus any snacks out. I went to at least one movie a week. I would skip a
> meal in order to be able to go to a movie.

My allowance was for the same kind of things, though I rarely had
transportation costs since I rarely took a bus to downtown Jackson.
There was a movie theater in my neighborhood.  It cost a dime if you
were under 12 and then 15 cents once you reached 12.  I went almost
every Saturday.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 16:07:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02678
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 16:07:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9D0CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:14:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12945423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 22:20:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A2KIK12528 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:20:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4B9827E18; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 19:20:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710022017.4B9827E18@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:20:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B9838.4090207@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 9,
              2002  9:13:12 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Rita Chapman said:
> >
> >>Karen Kay wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Rita Chapman said:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Karen Kay wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Rita Chapman said:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Peter Levy wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>PS What's a Flivver?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>It's a nickname for the Ford Model T.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>Nah, it's a jalopy. AHD says: "Slang An automobile, especially one
> >>>>>that is small, inexpensive, and old. ETYMOLOGY:Origin unknown."
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>In period literature, it nearly always refers to a Model T.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Well, yeah, but it's used a lot outside of period literature, IME.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>I've never seen it or heard it outside period literature,
> >>which is why I pulled it out of my brain as an example of a
> >>very obscure word.  I've only ever heard of jalopies (which
> >>I also think of as a period word that I never hear) as
> >>junkers, wrecks, hoopties, etc.
> >>
> >
> > The last time I remember hearing the word was at my family reunion a
> > couple of years ago, when my aunts and uncles were telling stories of
> > their youth.
> >
>
>
> Oh, that's pretty close to period LOL.

*A* period, yeah... But my Mom was the oldest kid, and she was born in
 1922.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 16:10:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02682
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 16:10:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0010A087@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:23:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12945508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 22:23:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A2NTK12792 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:23:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws8-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.8]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A2NPq02480
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:23:26 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710021421.C11B07DEA@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B9A9C.E6A56497@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:23:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> The grade school and high school (same bldg) I went to had no
> cafeteria--we ate lunch at our desks.

I think all of us (my classmates and I) would have loved that.  In my
elementary school the principal stood guard by the tray-return place to
make sure we'd cleaned our plates.  People would sometimes hide food
they didn't want in the milk cartons, but Gillipuss (Miss Gilliland)
would often shake milk cartons and then make the person eat the nasty
stuff that had been stuffed into it.  In jr high and high school we had
much more freedom in that respect.  Nobody stood guard over exactly what
we consumed.  But it was strictly forbidden to bring food to school or
to leave the cafeteria area during lunch time.  I'm pretty sure teachers
did watch to make sure we at least got lunch, even though they didn't
force the food down us.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 16:13:12 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02689
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 16:13:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010A0AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:26:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12945601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 22:26:29 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A2QTK12987 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:26:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6B12A7DCF; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 19:26:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710022628.6B12A7DCF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:26:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B9A9C.E6A56497@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 9,
              2002  9:23:24 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> In my elementary school the principal stood guard by the tray-return place to
> make sure we'd cleaned our plates.  People would sometimes hide food
> they didn't want in the milk cartons, but Gillipuss (Miss Gilliland)
> would often shake milk cartons and then make the person eat the nasty
> stuff that had been stuffed into it.

JEEZE!

And no one threw up on her? You really were little conformists.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 16:21:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02701
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 16:21:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010A14A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:35:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12945876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 22:35:13 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A2ZDK13926 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:35:13 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6A2ZCv10529 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:35:12 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207092133050.10287-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:35:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: what I did/was in Texas
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020710011857.0D66E7FB9@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> Shitkicker, I think.

I've always liked this word, though I figure I don't know what it means to
people who use it.

I like it because I think of somebody kicking dried up cow pies, and
having a good time doing it!

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 16:31:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02716
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 16:31:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9D210@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:39:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12946172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 22:44:50 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A2ioK14582 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:44:50 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6A2img10806 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:44:48 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207092136480.10287-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:44:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020710013214.875F17D42@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> Natalie Maynor said:
> > But I was given the offical school lunch money on top of that
>
> I always brought my lunch. (Is this the poor-mouthing you so despise?)

Hey I'm getting into these reminiscences.  I'm not joining the poor mouth
contest but this makes me remember - Necedah, Wisconsin again - when my ma
paid the family of my best friend, who lived in town, to have me with them
at the main meal, which was dinner, at noon.  I may have mentioned this in
1995 or thereabouts.  Because we ate squirrel!  And canned venison.  Both
delicious, both served with parsleyed potatoes.  Some sort of fish on
Fridays.

Otherwise I would've eaten with the Indians (from a reservation) I took
the school bus with, at school.  Actually that would've been very
interesting, in retrospect, and make a much better story on words-l years
later.  .

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 16:31:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02720
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 16:31:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9D216@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:39:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12946192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 22:45:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A2j2K14642 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:45:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws114-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.114]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6A2ixq08204
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:44:59 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710013422.5EC407D42@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2B98BE.D33E7A44@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2B9F74.8783FDD6@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:44:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> My college tuition was $200 a year.  True, that was quite a bit of money

I should've added that I had some small scholarships that helped.  I was
offered some much bigger ones, but they were to places I was not
interested in going, including some schools I'd never even heard of.
The offers just showed up in the mail, unsolicited.  I assume that these
schools had done something like acquire the list of National Merit
Finalists in the country.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 16:35:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02732
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 16:35:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010A1F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:49:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12946328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 22:49:01 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A2n1K14931 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:49:01 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6A2mx111004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:48:59 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082205240.6383-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:48:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020708192854.00a05270@pop3.norton.antivirus>

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, bonniev wrote:

> This is hilarious.  That's because you were all of the same class.  You all
> went to college.  You all had money.  The blacks went to a different
> school.  God knows what the poor white trash did.  I imagine your brother
> wasn't nearly so appalled when he got to college and learned about class
> distinctions.  He must have ate it up!
                              ^^^

EATEN, bonniev.

Having done that, it makes me feel like I'm displaying a compulsive Pain
in the Ass Correction Syndrome, which I admire others for NOT displaying
at this point.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 16:38:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02739
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 16:38:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9D27D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:46:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12946505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 22:51:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A2pYK15158 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:51:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AB9407CAF; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 19:50:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710025044.AB9407CAF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:50:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207092136480.10287-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 9, 2002  9:44:48 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> Actually that would've been very
> interesting, in retrospect, and make a much better story on words-l years
> later.  .

I definitely think that should be the guiding principle behind our
lives.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 16:38:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02746
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 16:38:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0010A22A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:52:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12946544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 22:52:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A2pxK15192 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:51:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E69AF7C11; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 19:51:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710025158.E69AF7C11@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:51:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082205240.6383-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 9, 2002  9:48:59 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, bonniev wrote:
>
> > This is hilarious.  That's because you were all of the same class.  You all
> > went to college.  You all had money.  The blacks went to a different
> > school.  God knows what the poor white trash did.  I imagine your brother
> > wasn't nearly so appalled when he got to college and learned about class
> > distinctions.  He must have ate it up!
>                               ^^^
>
> EATEN, bonniev.
>
> Having done that, it makes me feel like I'm displaying a compulsive Pain
> in the Ass Correction Syndrome, which I admire others for NOT displaying
> at this point.

Thank you for admiring me.:) (It just a twinge, not a full-fledged SPASM.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 16:42:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02751
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 16:42:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9D30B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:50:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12946889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 22:56:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A2uCK15617 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:56:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 402937E1C; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 19:56:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710025611.402937E1C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:56:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Oh, no!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rod Steiger, RIP

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 16:48:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02766
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 16:48:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0010A357@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:01:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12948227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:01:29 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A31TK16592 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:01:29 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ00095LJ2GX5@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 22:01:28 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207082205240.6383-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2BA32F.6020109@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:59:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, bonniev wrote:
>
>
>>This is hilarious.  That's because you were all of the same class.  You all
>>went to college.  You all had money.  The blacks went to a different
>>school.  God knows what the poor white trash did.  I imagine your brother
>>wasn't nearly so appalled when he got to college and learned about class
>>distinctions.  He must have ate it up!
>>
>                               ^^^
>
> EATEN, bonniev.
>
> Having done that, it makes me feel like I'm displaying a compulsive Pain
> in the Ass Correction Syndrome, which I admire others for NOT displaying
> at this point.
>

        Errant Pedantry Syndrome




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 16:55:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02807
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 16:55:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9D8D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:03:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12950987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:08:57 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe75.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.210]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A38uK18207 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:08:57 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          9 Jul 2002 20:08:51 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.71]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 03:08:51.0407 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[1DEC7DF0:01C227BF]
Message-ID:  <OE75h5QnhU86osjNZv00000889e@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:10:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I shall put my darling son on the school bus Monday morning for
intersession. Incoming kindergarteners will attend a half-day all next week.
Real School (all-day kindergarten) begins August 2. The city schools here
have what they call a "modified alternate calendar."

He will ride the bus mornings only (the K-3 school is only about five blocks
from here and four blocks from campus). Pick up time: 7:05 a.m.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 16:59:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02814
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 16:59:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9D944@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:07:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12951292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:12:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A3CeK18675 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:12:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EBC3D7FD0; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 20:12:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710031239.EBC3D7FD0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:12:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE75h5QnhU86osjNZv00000889e@hotmail.com> from Amy Burns Short at
              "Jul 9, 2002 10:10: 7 pm"

Amy Burns Short said:
> He will ride the bus mornings only (the K-3 school is only about five blocks
> from here and four blocks from campus). Pick up time: 7:05 a.m.

Why is he riding a bus 5 blocks? Are they required to ride?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 17:04:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02827
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 17:04:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9D980@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:12:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12951472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:17:43 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A3HhK19142 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:17:43 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6A3HeNa011779 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:17:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020709235539.746117DA6@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020709201637.00a8b8c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:17:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      big families
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B7ECF.A69E7C1D@maynor.net>

At 07:24 PM 7/9/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > including a special homemade card. I'm sorry you've missed out on all
> > that.
>
>I always wanted to be part of a big family.  But that wasn't something I
>could orchestrate.  And nobody gets everything in life that he/she
>wants.

I'm part of a large family but I don't remember living with my oldest
brother and sister because they were so much older. I was an aunt when I
was five.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 17:05:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02839
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 17:05:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9D985@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:12:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12951486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:18:26 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe74.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.209]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A3IQK19198 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:18:26 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          9 Jul 2002 20:18:21 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.71]
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 03:18:21.0160 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[7185E680:01C227C0]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <OE74yxJMXehYSoOZzHZ00008954@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:19:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short said:
> He will ride the bus mornings only (the K-3 school is only about five =
blocks
> from here and four blocks from campus). Pick up time: 7:05 a.m.

>Why is he riding a bus 5 blocks? Are they required to ride?


>Karen


I think it will be good for him, and he wants to. There's no =
transportation requirement. It also means I can get ready for the day in =
peace for the FIRST TIME IN ALMOST SIX YEARS. I'll pick him up =
afternoons.



AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 17:06:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02843
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 17:06:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9D98A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:14:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12951503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:20:13 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A3KDK19316 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:20:13 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6A3KBNa004244 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:20:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D2B7460.BDA823B0@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020709201957.00a26e00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:20:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: what I did/was in Texas
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207092035510.13761-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu >

At 08:36 PM 7/9/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> >> My maternal cousins
> >> are all kickers.
> >
> >What's a kicker?
>
>Hint #1: kicker is half a word.

A soccer term?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 17:07:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02847
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 17:07:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9D98E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:15:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12951518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:20:46 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A3KkK19345 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:20:46 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ0005BVJYLI6@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 09 Jul 2002 22:20:45 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D2A587F.5C5313A@maynor.net> <3D2B0C29.6080607@swbell.net>
            <3D2B6523.65554C81@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2BA7B4.5010903@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:19:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>What I find fascinating about your childhood, Natalie,
>>doesn't have anything to do with class, but how insular it
>>appears to have been.  I find that really remarkable.  Many
>>parents strive to achieve something like that for their
>>children, but I never thought it was possible.  Maybe it
>>
>
> I didn't find my world remarkable at the time.  It was pretty much the
> same world that I read about in school books (Dick and Jane, etc.) and
> saw in movies and later in tv shows about families.  But I guess it was
> indeed insular.


That's what is remarkable. Most of us don't recognize those
worlds as anything we lived.


My family couldn't afford much travel, so we didn't
> explore the world that way.  We took regular trips throughout my
> childhood to two places, both of them free:  to the annual cottonseed


We didn't travel as much as you did.  For example, I never
visited any major city but Boston before I was about 17 --
and New York and Washington DC are relatively close.  The
only vacations we took were around New England.  With my
family, just one area of New Hampshire.  I often went with
my best friend to dogs shows and stuff in Maine and Vermont,
etc.  They had a little blue VW bug, and Stefie and I would
ride in the back with the dogs and play -- I don't ever
remember feeling crowded, either.

And one certainly didn't take a bus anywhere -- my home town
was pretty rural at the time (although it has grown
enormously since and now has a commuter rail stop). I rode
my bike everywhere.

The point is the cultural diversity existed around me, in my
home town and in school.


> I do think it would be fun for you to get to see it.  If we could
> arrange for a time machine to take you to Northeast Jackson of the '50s,
> I would love it -- because I think you would find it fascinating.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 17:09:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02851
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 17:09:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9D99F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:17:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12951572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:22:48 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe28.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.85]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A3MlK19485 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:22:47 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          9 Jul 2002 20:22:42 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.71]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 03:22:42.0531 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[0D4FF330:01C227C1]
Message-ID:  <OE28iZIHd0TlKn4ZHkR00001338@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:24:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: big families
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I was an aunt when I was five.
>Betty

Wow!

Carl has an uncle who became so upon his birth.

His family tree is somewhat complicated. It's more like a burning bush. How
modern. How depressing.

AS, small family

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 17:12:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02855
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 17:12:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9D9C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:20:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12951662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:25:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A3PjK19886 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:25:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6D4707C38; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 20:25:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710032544.6D4707C38@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:25:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: what I did/was in Texas
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020709201957.00a26e00@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 9, 2002  8:20: 9 pm"

Betty said:
> At 08:36 PM 7/9/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> >
> > >> My maternal cousins
> > >> are all kickers.
> > >
> > >What's a kicker?
> >
> >Hint #1: kicker is half a word.
>
> A soccer term?

LOL!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 17:14:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02862
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 17:14:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010A6EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:27:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12951702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:27:19 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A3RJK20173 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:27:19 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 66FFE7DBE; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 20:27:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710032718.66FFE7DBE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:27:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2BA7B4.5010903@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 9,
              2002 10:19:16 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> The point is the cultural diversity existed around me, in my
> home town and in school.

I grew up hearing French all the time because of Canadian TV.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 17:16:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02872
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 17:16:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9D9DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:24:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12951736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:29:30 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A3TUK20327 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:29:30 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6A3TRNa009211 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:29:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020709202811.00a3aa00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:29:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE74yxJMXehYSoOZzHZ00008954@hotmail.com>

At 10:19 PM 7/9/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Amy Burns Short said:
> > He will ride the bus mornings only (the K-3 school is only about five
> blocks
> > from here and four blocks from campus). Pick up time: 7:05 a.m.
>
> >Why is he riding a bus 5 blocks? Are they required to ride?
>
>
> >Karen
>
>
>I think it will be good for him, and he wants to. There's no
>transportation requirement. It also means I can get ready for the day in
>peace for the FIRST TIME IN ALMOST SIX YEARS. I'll pick him up afternoons.

Yea!  Lorinda rode a bus one year only. She wanted a longer ride so didn't
get off when she was supposed to.  Larry was meeting her and he followed
the bus because he could see her.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 17:19:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02881
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 17:19:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9DA0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:26:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12951855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:32:15 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe56.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.191]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A3WFK20593 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:32:15 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          9 Jul 2002 20:32:10 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.71]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 03:32:10.0238 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[5FB129E0:01C227C2]
Message-ID:  <OE56FmCQnszhkxpBFeU00008867@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:33:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I grew up hearing French all the time because of Canadian TV.
>Karen

I figured out I probably first heard both French and Spanish on "I Love
Lucy" in the early '60s. I also remember hearing other languages on the
Radio Free Europe PSAs.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 17:19:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02888
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 17:19:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9DA0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:27:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12951878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:32:41 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A3WeK20617 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:32:40 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6A3WcNa026658 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:32:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <OE74yxJMXehYSoOZzHZ00008954@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020709203135.00a45100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:32:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      The Pledge
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020709202811.00a3aa00@uclink.berkeley.edu>

Some comedian said it should be "One nation, under Canada".  Cracked me up.

Easily amused,
Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 17:31:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02910
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 17:31:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010A8AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:44:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12952263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:44:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A3iHK22171 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:44:17 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E03FF8204; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 20:44:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710034416.E03FF8204@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:44:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020709202811.00a3aa00@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 9, 2002  8:29:24 pm"

Betty said:
> At 10:19 PM 7/9/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >Amy Burns Short said:
> > > He will ride the bus mornings only (the K-3 school is only about five
> > blocks
> > > from here and four blocks from campus). Pick up time: 7:05 a.m.
> >
> > >Why is he riding a bus 5 blocks? Are they required to ride?
> >
> >
> > >Karen
> >
> >
> >I think it will be good for him, and he wants to. There's no
> >transportation requirement. It also means I can get ready for the day in
> >peace for the FIRST TIME IN ALMOST SIX YEARS. I'll pick him up afternoons.
>
> Yea!  Lorinda rode a bus one year only. She wanted a longer ride so didn't
> get off when she was supposed to.  Larry was meeting her and he followed
> the bus because he could see her.

I was bussed twice. In 4th grade, I went to an inner-city school and
my last two years of high school. I hated it both times.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 17:31:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02918
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 17:31:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9DA8B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:39:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12952274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:44:56 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A3itK22198 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:44:55 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6A3irb12740 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:44:53 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207092242380.11176-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:44:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2BA32F.6020109@swbell.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:

> > EATEN, bonniev.
> >
> > Having done that, it makes me feel like I'm displaying a compulsive Pain
> > in the Ass Correction Syndrome, which I admire others for NOT displaying
> > at this point.
>
>         Errant Pedantry Syndrome
          ^^^^^
That'd be Arrant I believe.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 17:33:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02922
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 17:33:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9DA9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:41:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12952319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:47:10 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A3lAK22374 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:47:10 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 84FC8820F; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 20:47:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710034709.84FC8820F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:47:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207092242380.11176-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 9, 2002 10:44:53 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> > > EATEN, bonniev.
> > >
> > > Having done that, it makes me feel like I'm displaying a compulsive Pain
> > > in the Ass Correction Syndrome, which I admire others for NOT displaying
> > > at this point.
> >
> >         Errant Pedantry Syndrome
>           ^^^^^
> That'd be Arrant I believe.

I was wondering what she meant, thank you.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 17:35:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02937
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 17:35:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9DAAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:43:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12952367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:48:54 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6A3msK22463 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002
          23:48:54 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JOW00711; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:48:49 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JYZ02163; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:48:48 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <4.2.2.20020709202811.00a3aa00@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
            "Jul 9, 2002  8:29:24 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D2B21AA.14844.52F298@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:47:22 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020710034416.E03FF8204@yellow.rahul.net>

On 9 Jul 2002 at 20:44, Karen Kay wrote:

> I was bussed twice. In 4th grade, I went to an inner-city school and
> my last two years of high school. I hated it both times.

I was bussed only once. By Linda Thomas. On a hayride.


    mem
    But I sure as hell could bring my own lunch and eat or not, as I chose.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 17:38:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02943
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 17:38:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9DAD3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:46:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12952490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:51:58 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A3pvK22677 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:51:57 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6A3psF13076 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:51:54 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207092149170.10967-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:51:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207091131500.407-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
> >> >Bethany I do wish you would reconsider your ironic use of "thank you."
> >> Why?
> >It makes me hate the player.
> Why?

This is a fair question and I was buying time before answering it.

But I come against my poor critical abilities:  I mean, low skill in
making explicit, and clear to others, why I find something good or bad.

But I'll do the best I can:

1.  You use this to the point of overuse.  More succinctly, it is almost
like a tic, you use this tactic so often it seems obligatory or compulsive
or ritualistic or at the very least tiresomely predictable.

2.  What use does it serve?  Why the 'thank you' and why the irony?  It
becomes grotesque.  I wish you'd say something more direct like fuck you
assholes.  I'm now thinking it might pay lip service to some sort of kind
speaking principle you've espoused, some politeness principle that allows
you to vent a "fuck you" feeling but with a fake politeness routine.

3.  Sometimes it confuses me - is she really thanking or is she saying
fuck off?  At these times, I think maybe it's some kind of esoteric
Christian Be Superficially Polite vow.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 17:40:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02950
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 17:40:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9DAE9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:48:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12952558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Jul
          2002 23:53:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A3rZK22833 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:53:35 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C8D428208; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 20:53:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710035334.C8D428208@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:53:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207092149170.10967-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 9, 2002 10:51:54 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> 2.  What use does it serve?  Why the 'thank you' and why the irony?  It
> becomes grotesque.  I wish you'd say something more direct like fuck you
> assholes.  I'm now thinking it might pay lip service to some sort of kind
> speaking principle you've espoused, some politeness principle that allows
> you to vent a "fuck you" feeling but with a fake politeness routine.
>
> 3.  Sometimes it confuses me - is she really thanking or is she saying
> fuck off?  At these times, I think maybe it's some kind of esoteric
> Christian Be Superficially Polite vow.

I always thought of it as a variant on The Three-Toned Drop version of BYH.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 18:14:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03058
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 18:14:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9DEAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 0:21:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12955607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 00:27:27 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe68.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.203]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A4RQK26963 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 00:27:27 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          9 Jul 2002 21:27:21 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.71]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 04:27:21.0488 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[1559D100:01C227CA]
Message-ID:  <OE68LAX3cf3ednHM3SO00008a61@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:28:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> 3.  Sometimes it confuses me - is she really thanking or is she saying
> fuck off?  At these times, I think maybe it's some kind of esoteric
> Christian Be Superficially Polite vow.

>I always thought of it as a variant on The Three-Toned Drop version of BYH.

>Karen

Sounds swarmy to me.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 18:15:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03070
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 18:15:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9DEAF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 0:23:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12955620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 00:28:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A4SWK27018 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 00:28:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 88E457E72; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 21:28:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710042831.88E457E72@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:28:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE68LAX3cf3ednHM3SO00008a61@hotmail.com> from Amy Burns Short at
              "Jul 9, 2002 11:28:50 pm"

Amy Burns Short said:
> > 3.  Sometimes it confuses me - is she really thanking or is she saying
> > fuck off?  At these times, I think maybe it's some kind of esoteric
> > Christian Be Superficially Polite vow.
>
> >I always thought of it as a variant on The Three-Toned Drop version of BYH.
>
> >Karen
>
> Sounds swarmy to me.

Swarmy?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 18:16:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03076
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 18:16:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9DEB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 0:23:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12955641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 00:29:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A4TIK27064 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 00:29:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 055817FCB; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 21:29:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710042916.055817FCB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:29:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      I will vomit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

If I look at my resume or cover One More Time.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 18:20:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03080
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 18:20:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9DEDD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 0:28:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12955786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 00:34:06 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A4Y6K27473 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 00:34:06 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust38.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.40]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003805785@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 00:34:06 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709021519.1F5AF803F@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2AD2A4.A3347EA8@maynor.net> <3D2B0DC6.8E97EBAA@valstar.net>
            <3D2B6678.5DD9E31D@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2BB958.672EF6E5@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 00:34:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> It would never have occurred to me as a child to think that adults would
> have bday cakes.

Oh, dear. What a terrible price to pay for becoming an adult.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 18:24:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03087
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 18:24:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9DEF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 0:32:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12955878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 00:37:44 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A4bhK27731 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 00:37:43 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust38.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.40]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003805855@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 00:37:37 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708202645.9BEAA7D08@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2A4C6F.1010103@swbell.net> <3D2AD382.54EC8900@maynor.net>
            <3D2B0E5E.831DF6B6@valstar.net> <3D2B6775.B3B568FD@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2BBA2B.18E6CFD8@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 00:38:03 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>  I
> mean would you be likely to serve cake as dessert if giving a dinner
> party?

Yes, I might. Do you find cakes improper desserts (ignoring for the
moment that you are not fond of them)? And if I were a professional cake
baker, I definitely would.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 18:39:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03107
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 18:39:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9DF55@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 0:46:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12956182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 00:52:22 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A4qMK28770 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 00:52:22 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust38.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.40]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003806064@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 00:52:13 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2B18D5.5EA0358@valstar.net> <3D2B73FF.4A5F071C@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2BBD94.B93DF5DA@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 00:52:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: niggardly
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Does your "OR ___?" mean the use of the term "coon" to mean "black"?

Yes. It is (or was) a pretty common usage in Chicago. And it is so in my
big Webster's dictionary.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 18:43:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03114
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 18:43:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010ADD2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 0:56:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12956349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 00:56:51 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6A4uoK29092 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 00:56:50 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA23155
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Tue, 9 Jul 2002
          21:56:49 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 18A7D97004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,  9 Jul 2002 21:56:49 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 23151 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2002 04:56:48 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 10 Jul 2002 04:56:48 -0000
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Moment-Of-Dada: But will they have fireworks fish swimming under a fireworks
                  waterfall?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130303b95168ee6945@[66.237.73.69]>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:56:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Frankenstein
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B4884.2508.A6EDEF73@localhost>

>But two odd word usages jumped out at me: "compassionated" (used just
>once):
>
>"I compassionated him, and sometimes felt a wish to console him; but
>when I looked upon him, when I saw the filthy mass that moved and
>talked, my heart sickened, and my feelings were altered to those of
>horror and hatred."

The OED lists "compassionate" as a transitive verb, without any marking at
all (i.e. not listed as obsolete or archaic).  I must say that I can't
remember every encountering it before.

>and a use of "discovered" I've never encountered (used several
>times):
>
>"I ought to have familiarised the old De Lacey to me, and by degrees
>to have discovered myself to the rest of his family, when they should
>have been prepared for my approach."

>Tony H.

The OED lists "discover" as a transitive verb in three or four senses that
might be applicable here; the most applicable sense, that of revealing the
identity of a person, is marked as archaic.  This sense contains a citation
very like the above:

1726 Adv. Capt. R. Boyle 264 She at last discover'd herself to me: She was
Daughter-in-law to [etc.].

Ken Miller
Assistant Drone
Johnson Institute for the Study of Harmless Drudgery

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 18:54:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03126
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 18:54:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9E072@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 1:02:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12957053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 01:07:36 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A57aK30318 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:07:36 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust38.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.40]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003806333@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 01:07:36 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710013214.875F17D42@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2BC132.C12F3FA1@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:08:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> I always brought my lunch. (Is this the poor-mouthing you so despise?)

I went home for lunch. The school had no lunchroom--we all went home. It
was difficult in the snow, sometimes, to get back and forth in the
allotted time.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 18:58:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03133
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 18:58:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9E097@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 1:06:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12957168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 01:11:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A5BxK30691 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:11:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 60FA47F02; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 22:11:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710051158.60FA47F02@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:11:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2BC132.C12F3FA1@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 10,
              2002  1: 8: 2 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I always brought my lunch. (Is this the poor-mouthing you so despise?)
>
> I went home for lunch.

I did that, too, for much of the time.

> The school had no lunchroom--we all went home. It was difficult in
> the snow, sometimes, to get back and forth in the allotted time.

I remember days like that.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 19:01:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03145
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 19:01:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9E0BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 1:09:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12957280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 01:14:41 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A5EeK30947 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:14:40 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust38.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.40]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003806455@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 01:14:40 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710021421.C11B07DEA@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2B9A9C.E6A56497@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2BC2D9.5274855@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:15:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote that it was required of all kids to eat in the
cafeteria.

I want to know what happened to the kids who could not afford it, or
were there different priced things so they could buy less than other
people?? Or what?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 19:07:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03155
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 19:07:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9E0D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 1:15:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12957352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 01:20:31 -0400
Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net
          [204.127.131.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6A5KVK31320 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          01:20:31 -0400
Received: from Single_Malt.worldnet.att.net ([12.80.84.225]) by
          mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020710052024.SLID20489.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@Single_Malt.worldnet.att.net> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 05:20:24 +0000
X-Sender: elaine.personal.lists@worldnet.att.net@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.2.20020709175827.01342ff0@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:02:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Elaine M Brennan <elaine.personal.lists@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: LAX shutdown
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207041551440.8295-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

At 02:52 PM 7/4/2002 -0400, Bethany wrote:

>I just tuned into CNN and learned that an int'l terminal at LAX has been
>shut down because of a shooting.

Actually, for a while there the entire airport was shut down -- I know,
having arrived at LAX at approximately 12:25 pm.   Before we de-planed, the
pilot got on the intercom to announce, "Folks, there's, um .... been an
incident ... um ... at the airport.  And you'll learn more about it once
you're inside the terminal."

We were one of the first flights to land after they re-opened airspace, and
therefore got to observe a fair amount of running around as officials tried
to get sufficient security in place to re-open the majority of the roads in
and out of the airport and people who'd been herded out of the various
terminals filed their way back in.

Today, however, I'm sitting in Santa Barbara trying to relax for a day or
two.  But I *did* think of wordslers ....

--Elaine

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 19:07:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03164
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 19:07:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9E0DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 1:15:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12957383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 01:20:52 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A5KqK31344 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:20:52 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust38.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.40]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003806562@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 01:20:47 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207092242380.11176-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2BC449.EEE3A35@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:21:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:
>
> >         Errant Pedantry Syndrome
>           ^^^^^
> That'd be Arrant I believe.

Perhaps she was wandering.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 19:10:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03169
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 19:10:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9E0EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 1:18:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12957456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 01:23:29 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A5NTK31604 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:23:29 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust38.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.40]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003806602@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 01:23:29 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710042831.88E457E72@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2BC4E9.CD6815CD@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:23:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Sounds swarmy to me.
>
> Swarmy?

No doubt smarmy. She got the M upside down.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 19:11:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03179
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 19:11:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9E0F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 1:19:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12957489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 01:24:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A5OYK31668 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:24:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C14977CE3; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 22:24:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710052433.C14977CE3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:24:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2BC4E9.CD6815CD@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 10,
              2002  1:23:53 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > > Sounds swarmy to me.
> >
> > Swarmy?
>
> No doubt smarmy. She got the M upside down.

Well, knowing how well Amy *knows* smarmy, I'd be surprised she'd make
a mistake like that.

But that's just me.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 19:12:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03183
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 19:12:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9E0FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 1:19:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12957494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 01:25:21 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A5PLK31728 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:25:21 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3B3297D38; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 22:25:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710052520.3B3297D38@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:25:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Hey, Alyce!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2BC4E9.CD6815CD@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 10,
              2002  1:23:53 am"

Why are you still awake? It's late here, and later there.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 19:35:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03211
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 19:35:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010B076@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 1:49:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12957851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 01:48:58 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A5mvK00652 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:48:58 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust38.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.40]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003807032@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 01:48:57 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710052520.3B3297D38@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2BCAE0.99248010@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:49:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Hey, Alyce!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Why are you still awake? It's late here, and later there.

Oh, I was watching television in bed till about 12:30, waiting for Spike
to be ready to do his thing before bed. He finally was (and did), but
then I was sort of awake, so I came to do e-mail. I've been waking up to
300 or more e-mails in the morning, and it takes the whole morning to
deal with them so I don't get other things done. This way, maybe, I will
have a headstart tomorrow--just knocked off 223 that had come in since I
shut down before dinner at 5. Now I am returning to bed.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 19:51:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03237
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 19:51:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9E335@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 1:59:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12959454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 02:04:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A64fK03221 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 02:04:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 435197DD0; Tue,  9
          Jul 2002 23:04:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710060440.435197DD0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:04:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Alyce!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2BCAE0.99248010@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 10,
              2002  1:49:20 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > Why are you still awake? It's late here, and later there.
>
> Oh, I was watching television in bed till about 12:30, waiting for Spike
> to be ready to do his thing before bed. He finally was (and did), but
> then I was sort of awake, so I came to do e-mail. I've been waking up to
> 300 or more e-mails in the morning, and it takes the whole morning to
> deal with them so I don't get other things done. This way, maybe, I will
> have a headstart tomorrow--just knocked off 223 that had come in since I
> shut down before dinner at 5. Now I am returning to bed.

Good night.

Sleep tight.

Don't let the bed bugs bite.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 20:13:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03260
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 20:13:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9E429@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 2:21:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12960304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 02:27:06 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A6R6K05084 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 02:27:06 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6A6R4e11714 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          01:27:04 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207092136480.10287-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <005701c227da$ff2713a0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:28:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> Otherwise I would've eaten with the Indians (from a reservation) I
took
> the school bus with, at school.  Actually that would've been very
> interesting, in retrospect, and make a much better story on words-l
years
> later.  .
>
> Ann

That's adage inspiring.
Like, so live your life that
you make a good story.

            - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 20:22:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03272
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 20:22:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9E443@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 2:30:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12960392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 02:36:09 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A6a9K05542 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 02:36:09 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6A6a8e17815 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          01:36:08 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <OE75h5QnhU86osjNZv00000889e@hotmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <011301c227dc$430fea00$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:37:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> I shall put my darling son on the school bus Monday morning for
> intersession. Incoming kindergarteners will attend a half-day all next
week.
> Real School (all-day kindergarten) begins August 2. The city schools
here
> have what they call a "modified alternate calendar."
>
> He will ride the bus mornings only (the K-3 school is only about five
blocks
> from here and four blocks from campus). Pick up time: 7:05 a.m.
>
> AS

Stock up on Kleenex.

         - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 20:28:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03302
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 20:28:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9E4CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 2:35:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12960847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 02:40:50 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A6eoK05952 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 02:40:50 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6A6ene20673 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          01:40:49 -0500 (CDT)
References: <OE74yxJMXehYSoOZzHZ00008954@hotmail.com> 
            <4.2.2.20020709203135.00a45100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <017001c227dc$ea83f4c0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:42:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: The Pledge
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Some comedian said it should be "One nation, under Canada".  Cracked
me up.
>
> Easily amused,
> Betty

Thanks.  That was a good laugh.

          - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 20:34:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03317
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 20:34:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9E50B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 2:41:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12961030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 02:47:27 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A6lQK06466 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 02:47:26 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6A6lPe24892 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          01:47:25 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <3D2B5079.D4074D71@valstar.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <023901c227dd$d6c9cbc0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:48:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: [Fwd: Google "Mirror" Site]
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

This is way weird.  This site, on the
little pulldown screen, lists every
inquiry I've ever made from Google.
Well, at least for a long ways back.
I don't have time to pursue this, but
I'm really curious about it.

             - D. M.



> Someone definitely has too much time on their hands.
> Go to  http://www.alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/
> Then try typing in a word backwards.
>
> alyce
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 20:38:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03329
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 20:38:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9E549@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 2:46:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12961256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 02:51:34 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A6pYK07000 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 02:51:34 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6A6pXe27383 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          01:51:33 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000701c227de$6a355be0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:52:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Groundhog Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Wonder what's going on.
I'm getting the same mail
over and over and over.

Would you people please
stop repeating yourselves?

             - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 20:47:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03352
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 20:47:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9E574@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 2:54:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12961423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 03:00:14 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A70EK07649 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 03:00:14 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6A74Wo03078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:04:32
          +0200
References: <F17vDr94N7GwFOwhDYJ00008971@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020710090431.A3059@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:04:31 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: casualty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F17vDr94N7GwFOwhDYJ00008971@hotmail.com>; from
              rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM on Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 11:12:55PM +0000

On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 11:12:55PM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote:
= steph, damp in Amsterdam:
=
= >We don't spend much time downstairs, and it has a separate
= >entrance.
=
= Not using the downstairs shower anymore?
=
= -rashmi
=

Girrrl, that was a temporary aberration.  Do you want to come up
next weekend and see the improvements?  I can offer a real bed
to sleep on too this time.

Although, however, one of my new colleagues lives in Antwerp and
he keeps inviting me down, so I may come down.

I don't know what we're going to do yet, that's why I was letting
it hang.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 20:54:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03362
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 20:54:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9E5C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 3:01:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12961709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 03:07:23 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6A77MK08368 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 03:07:23 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6A7Bed03128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:11:40
          +0200
References: <000701c227de$6a355be0$360332d1@0018079268>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020710091140.B3059@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:11:40 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Groundhog Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000701c227de$6a355be0$360332d1@0018079268>; from
              dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM on Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 01:52:53AM -0500

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 01:52:53AM -0500, Doris Markland wrote:
= Wonder what's going on.
= I'm getting the same mail
= over and over and over.
=
= Would you people please
= stop repeating yourselves?
=
=              - D. M.

Newbie.  They've been doing it since 1991.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun  3 21:28:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03391
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 3 Jun 1960 21:28:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9E66A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 3:36:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12962331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 03:41:28 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6A7fSK10705 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          03:41:28 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JPE00379; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 03:41:22 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id JZH01312; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 03:41:21 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D2B58AD.28682.4C69C2@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:42:05 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2BC2D9.5274855@valstar.net>

On 10 Jul 2002 at 1:15, alyce cresap wrote:

> I want to know what happened to the kids who could not afford it,
> or were there different priced things so they could buy less than
> other people?? Or what?

Please pay attention, Alyce. There were no kids in her school who could not
afford it.


     mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 01:03:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03632
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 01:03:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9EB2F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 7:11:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12965609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 07:16:39 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe41.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.98]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ABGdK06158 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:16:39 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 04:16:34 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 11:16:34.0349 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[3FFF15D0:01C22803]
Message-ID:  <OE41eCv64kU5xpuFFRB00008c0e@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 06:17:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

KK:

> > > Sounds swarmy to me.
> >
> > Swarmy?
>
> No doubt smarmy. She got the M upside down.

'Twas late. Make that a swarm of smarminess. Hence, swarmy. :).

>Well, knowing how well Amy *knows* smarmy, I'd be surprised >she'd make
>a mistake like that.

Thank you.

>But that's just me.

A small but appreciative audience ...

AS, actually a somewhat nice humanoid who sometimes gets carried away with
being contrapuntal

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 01:10:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03644
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 01:10:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9EB74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 7:18:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12965786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 07:23:58 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ABNvK07122 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:23:57 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-125.panax.com
          [63.163.41.125]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6ABNuj22161 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          07:23:56 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020710072337.00b295d8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:23:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oh, no!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020710025611.402937E1C@yellow.rahul.net>

At 07:56 PM 7/9/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Rod Steiger, RIP
>
>Karen

alas.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 01:13:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03651
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 01:13:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9EBE9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 7:20:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12966196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 07:26:26 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe56.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.191]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ABQQK07611 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:26:26 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 04:26:20 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 11:26:20.0861 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[9D95B6D0:01C22804]
Message-ID:  <OE56UwqiHf6zCPBNdQ700008bfb@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 06:27:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> He will ride the bus mornings only (the K-3 school is only about five
blocks
> from here and four blocks from campus). Pick up time: 7:05 a.m.
>
> AS


>Stock up on Kleenex.

         - D. M.

Oh, I will. It's probably one of the many items on the Required Supply List.

What is it with these huge lists of required school supplies schools now put
out?

AS, "We've Only Just Begun"

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 01:22:31 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03663
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 01:22:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0010BDF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 7:35:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12966307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 07:35:35 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ABZZK08150 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:35:35 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBP5C>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:35:26 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBP5B; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:35:18 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEPPFBAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020710124744.0332e668@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:49:22 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D20DAED.1F40B717@maynor.net>

17:42 01.07.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor:
>S Hess wrote:
> >
> > smart thinking!!! I'll go ya one better. My grandma used to butter her
> bread
> > before spreading peanut butter on it. A double caloric whammy. I thought it
> > was very odd.
>
>Here's a real mind-boggler:  I once saw somebody rub butter over a
>steak.  (And yes, he was fat.)

One Norwegian specialty is sour cream porridge (rømmegrøt). Sour cream is
cooked until it is thick and then when it is served you put sugar and
melted butter on it.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 01:27:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03670
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 01:27:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9EC79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 7:35:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12966536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 07:40:43 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ABehK08738 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:40:43 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-125.panax.com
          [63.163.41.125]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6ABegj25319 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          07:40:42 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020710013214.875F17D42@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020710073305.00b27960@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:40:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207092136480.10287-100000@og1.olagrande.net >

At 09:44 PM 7/9/2002 -0500, ann wrote:
>... Because we ate squirrel!  And canned venison.  Both
>delicious, both served with parsleyed potatoes.  Some sort of fish on
>Fridays.

Ah, the good old days.  Before the advent of home freezers, canned venison
was a staple in rural Wisconsin homes.  I had it a couple of times when we
visited dad's parents; when we moved up there, we bought a freezer.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 01:31:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03686
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 01:31:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9ECB5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 7:39:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12966710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 07:44:40 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ABieK09160 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:44:40 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws96-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.96]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6ABibq26685
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 06:44:37 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20020709175827.01342ff0@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2C1E22.66617E12@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 06:44:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: LAX shutdown
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Elaine M Brennan wrote:

> Today, however, I'm sitting in Santa Barbara trying to relax for a day or
> two.

Have you seen Elwood?  Or does he eschew SB in retirement?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 01:34:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03690
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 01:34:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9ECD8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 7:41:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12966782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 07:47:24 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ABlOK09383 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:47:24 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws96-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.96]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6ABlLq27336
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 06:47:21 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709021519.1F5AF803F@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2AD2A4.A3347EA8@maynor.net> <3D2B0DC6.8E97EBAA@valstar.net>
            <3D2B6678.5DD9E31D@maynor.net> <3D2BB958.672EF6E5@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2C1EC6.693D8616@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 06:47:18 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:
> > It would never have occurred to me as a child to think that adults would
> > have bday cakes.
>
> Oh, dear. What a terrible price to pay for becoming an adult.

I don't remember specifically thinking of bday cakes when thinking about
things lost upon growing older, but I do remember thinking that
adulthood wasn't something I was particularly looking forward to.  I
always thought that children had more fun than adults.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 01:39:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03703
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 01:39:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0010BEC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 7:52:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12966905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 07:52:54 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ABqsK09788 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:52:54 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws96-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.96]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6ABqoq28549
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 06:52:51 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020708202645.9BEAA7D08@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2A4C6F.1010103@swbell.net> <3D2AD382.54EC8900@maynor.net>
            <3D2B0E5E.831DF6B6@valstar.net> <3D2B6775.B3B568FD@maynor.net>
            <3D2BBA2B.18E6CFD8@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2C2010.A2382A69@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 06:52:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:
> > mean would you be likely to serve cake as dessert if giving a dinner
> > party?
>
> Yes, I might. Do you find cakes improper desserts (ignoring for the
> moment that you are not fond of them)? And if I were a professional cake
> baker, I definitely would.

I've never really thought about <proper> vs <improper> desserts.  It's
just that I can't remember ever having cake as a dessert (at a dinner
party -- I occasionally have it in the cafeteria) and wouldn't think of
it as a possibility if I were planning a dinner party.

Hmm.  I bet there have been cakes of one kind or another at Chiggerfest,
an annual party (daytime party) where the hosts provide the meat and the
beer and the guests bring other things.  I can't actually remember
seeing cakes there, but I find it not difficult to imagine seeing one
there.  I think part of it, now that I'm thinking about this, may be
that I associate cakes with children.  There are always lots of children
at Chiggerfest.  Speaking of growing older, it's fun in a way, sad in a
way (sad as in the tempus fugit factor) to watch the children of
Chiggerfest grow up.  Occasionally one will be back visiting and will
come to it now as a thirty-year-old who had been a regular as a very
small child.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 01:44:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03717
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 01:44:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9ED4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 7:51:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12967144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 07:57:07 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ABv7K10551 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:57:07 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws96-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.96]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6ABv5q29577
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 06:57:05 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710051158.60FA47F02@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2C210E.2B308507@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 06:57:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > I went home for lunch.
>
> I did that, too, for much of the time.

I first encountered that concept in movies and was fascinated by it.
Although I don't know that I would really have liked it since eating
lunch with my friends was fun, I did find the idea of such <freedom> a
bit mind-boggling.  We would've been in *VERY* DS if caught trying to
leave the school grounds at any time during the school day (except, of
course, if given an official "dismissal slip" and picked up by a parent
because of illness or whatever).  This reminds me of the tyrannical
secretary who ran the office in my hs.  I didn't actually see this
happen and think it may be myth, but the story was that when a student
had some kind of seizure and was rushed away by ambulance that Mrs.
Myers was racing down the hall after the stretcher waving a pink slip
and saying to the unconscious victim, "YOU FORGOT YOUR DISMISSAL SLIP!"

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 01:48:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03730
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 01:48:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9EDAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 7:56:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12967481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 08:01:31 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AC1UK11562 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:01:30 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBQBN>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:01:29 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBQBM; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:01:17 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020710135812.00bd0470@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:01:10 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F92Z2hoVrpUVmk5nlBd0000445d@hotmail.com>

10:21 02.07.2002 -0400 skrev Marie Ascher:
>Natalie:
>> > Are bread and pasta all that caloric?  I've never been a real student of
>> > these matters, but I've always thought that they were not especially
>> > fattening.
>
>Since I'm paying attention to these things, I can say that even if I eat a
>much smaller than I'm accustomed to portion of pasta, my weight goes up.
>
>And I love and adore pasta, so I would never cut it out. Portion control.

I can't remember if I have said this already: Ingjerd got a pasta
roller/cutter as a birthday present a couple of years ago and it has just
been hidden in a cupboard. But a month or so ago we had our first try of
home made pasta and it was very good. I made the dough from flour, oil and
eggs. The rolling and cutting and so on is clearly something which has to
be learned by practice, and it is very easy to overboil so fresh pasta but
this call for repeats!

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 01:51:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03741
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 01:51:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0010BF79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 8:04:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12967553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 08:04:41 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AC4eK11845 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:04:40 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBQBW>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:04:40 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBQBV; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:04:30 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <20020702133819.A31431@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020710140240.00bcd018@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:04:24 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: On not living in a city
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207021032080.17018-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

10:32 02.07.2002 -0400 skrev Bethany K. Dumas:
>On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, steph wrote:
>
> >= Right. That's why I did not include it in my list, even though I lived
> >= there for a year.
> >
> >Then you are being a pain again.
>
>For not including London ?!? London is an exception to all
>generalizations, I suspect.

Oslo is hardly of world class but the subway and ordinary buses stop around
midnight. And this seems to be the case in Vienna as well - that was once
at least a world class city. In Oslo BTW there are selected night buses and
trams about once an hour until the ordinary routes start between 5 and 6 in
the morning.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 01:56:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03749
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 01:56:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9EE0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 8:04:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12967696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 08:09:50 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AC9oK12384 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:09:50 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22631 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:09:36 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02
          08:09:36 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02 08:09:18 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D2BEBA7.28607.150FB1@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:09:12 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: big families
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE28iZIHd0TlKn4ZHkR00001338@hotmail.com>

  When I was growing up, the question I always dreaded was "How
many brothers and sisters do you have?"  My parents took in foster
kids - sometimes whole families - and adopted some, kept some
without adopting, let go of others.  Who, in that context, counts as
a sibling?  If the criterion is biological, then I have only one brother.
If the criterion is legal, then I have a brother and two sisters.  If the
criterion is that they lived in our home and called my parents "Mom
and Dad" then the number is too large to count.

  As an adult, the question "How many kids do you have?" is
difficult to answer for much the same reason.  Big family?  Indeed!

BrP



> >I was an aunt when I was five.
> >Betty
>
> Wow!
>
> Carl has an uncle who became so upon his birth.
>
> His family tree is somewhat complicated. It's more like a burning bush. How
> modern. How depressing.
>
> AS, small family

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 01:58:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03756
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 01:58:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9EE21@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 8:05:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12967741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 08:11:02 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ACB1K12512 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:11:01 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBQC5>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:11:01 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBQCZ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:10:54 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3b.28cf3c2d.2a529bc1@aol.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020710140604.0330bad8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:10:48 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L Digest - 1 Jul 2002 - Special issue (#2002-1163)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21BFB6.4A396F9B@valstar.net>

10:59 02.07.2002 -0400 skrev alyce cresap:

>Then there is Danish smorrebrod--fancy finger sandwiches. Smorrebrod
>means "smeared with butter." Those of you who have been to Denmark will
>have seen these in the konditories. Because my grandmother was Danish,
>we had those especially for Christmas Eve. They made up the entire
>meal--huge variety of meats, fish, vegetables. Part of their specialness
>is the artistry involved--they are very attractive in addition to being
>tasty. Anyway, we made hundreds, and usually had enough left over after
>Christmas Eve for lunch on Christmas Day and even after that sometimes.
>The thing is that (refrigerated) they stayed in great shape because of
>the butter base, with nothing seeping through.

We also have smørbød (Norwegian spelling) here although they are usually
simpler than the Danish ones. A Danish (actually Norwegian) poet in the
eighteenth century wrote a poem:

"At kiærligheed er ikke had
og smørrebrød er ikke mad -
det er fortiden hva jeg veed
om smørrebrød og kiærligheed"

(My eighteenth century Danish spelling isn't very good, so there might be
errors here. But the rhyme also works in modern Norwegian even if I have to
use the Danish "smørrebrød" for rythmic reasons:

At kjærlighet er ikke hat
og smørrebrød er ikke mat
det er fortiden hva jeg vet
om smørrebrød og kjærlighet)

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 02:00:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03767
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 02:00:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010C000@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 8:13:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12967789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 08:13:05 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ACD5K12716 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:13:05 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23636 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:13:04 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02
          08:13:04 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02 08:12:59 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D2BEC85.13494.1870B3@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:12:54 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE75h5QnhU86osjNZv00000889e@hotmail.com>

Good luck.  It is a difficult and wonderful moment.  I have, in a
frame on my piano, two pictures mounted together.  One is Nert on
his first day of kindergarten, the other is of him receiving his
University of Delaware diploma.  Every ending is a beginning.

BrP



> I shall put my darling son on the school bus Monday morning for
> intersession. Incoming kindergarteners will attend a half-day all next week.
> Real School (all-day kindergarten) begins August 2. The city schools here
> have what they call a "modified alternate calendar."
>
> He will ride the bus mornings only (the K-3 school is only about five blocks
> from here and four blocks from campus). Pick up time: 7:05 a.m.
>
> AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 02:02:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03775
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 02:02:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9EE72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 8:09:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12967866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 08:15:20 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ACFKK12992 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:15:20 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws96-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.96]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6ACFIq04480
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:15:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710021421.C11B07DEA@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2B9A9C.E6A56497@maynor.net> <3D2BC2D9.5274855@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2C2553.5F49B4DD@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:15:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> I want to know what happened to the kids who could not afford it, or
> were there different priced things so they could buy less than other
> people?? Or what?

That is an interesting question re the Jackson schools in general since
I'm almost positive that the lunch-eating policies were the same in all
the schools.  I know they were the same in all the elementary schools
that fed into my jr high and high school since some of us were talking
about lunch tickets not long ago in this little e-mail group that
somehow got formed when planning our reunion and is still going on.
(It's kind of interesting since the people in this e-mail group weren't
my close friends in hs, but we've developed an electronic bond and know
each other pretty well now.)

Anyway, I really don't think there was anybody at my particular schools
who couldn't afford food.  I am confident that was true of my elementary
school and high school.  My jr high was somewhat different in that it
was quite large and because of school sizes and districting drew from a
larger segment of town, including some students who weren't in the
district of my high school, even though my hs was a block away from the
jr high.  It had to do with building size obviously.

Back to the question, though.  The cost of the food was clearly state
subsidized.  It was extremely cheap -- and was very good food.  (I think
we've discussed this topic before.)  As for choices, in elementary
school there were three colors of lunch tickets, tickets we bought from
the teacher at the beginning of the week:  blue, yellow, orange.  Yellow
was by far the most common.  Almost everybody had yellow since it was
what most people considered the normal amount of food and since we were
of course conformists.  A few people had blue tickets, which meant they
got two desserts or two salads instead of the usual one.  That was
considered a bit weird -- like why would somebody need that much food.
Orange meant no dessert.  In jr high and hs we didn't have those
color-coded tickets.  I think we did in fact have some kind of tickets
in jr high, although we kept them ourselves -- the teachers didn't keep
them and hand them out at lunch time.  In hs it was cash only.  I don't
think we had much choice about the basic food -- the meat, the green
vegetable, the carbohydrate, the roll, the milk.  I feel sure that if
there had been any vegetarians or people with food allergies or
whatever, then arrangements could have been made for them.  I do
remember a classmate with an ulcer who had to go to the cafeteria two
extra times a day, morning and afternoon, and drink milk.  I'm guessing
that probably we had a choice about dessert or no dessert.  Possibly
salad also.  But my memory is that the cost was 23 cents in hs
regardless.

So back to your question.  Were there "free lunch programs" or whatever
back in the '50s?  Surely there must have been some kind of mechanism
for dealing with children who couldn't afford food.  As I said, I'm
almost totally sure that the rules were the same in all the Jackson
schools -- no bringing of food to school and no leaving for lunch.

I also have been wondering now why it was forbidden to bring lunch.  It
was not that the cafeteria was for profit.  Maybe it had to do with
planning.  Or maybe it did have to do with the budget, as in fewer
mouths might mean higher cost or something.  I really don't know.  It's
easier to understand the rule about leaving schoolgrounds.  That might
have had to do with safety -- counting of bodies present or whatever.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 02:02:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03779
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 02:02:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9EE73@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 8:09:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12967870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 08:15:22 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ACFLK12997 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:15:22 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBQDP>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:15:21 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBQDN; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:15:10 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <F79esqctRbffoJpHq2X00003235@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020710141437.00bcd160@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:15:04 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207021045580.67213-100000@idiom.com>

10:48 02.07.2002 -0700 skrev Sharon Ziperovich:
>On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> > I don't know what it is, but my total cholesterol/HDL ratio turns out to be
> > outstanding at 2.2. Olive oil rocks!
> >
>You have something else good going for you, besides the olive oi. Olive
>oil is the only cooking oil in my kitchen, and I never use butter. And
>though I have a low cholestrol, 120, I have a terrible ratio: 1:5. So now
>I find myself in the strange position of trying to eat more fat, but the
>"good" kind, nuts and fish.  I've also been told to get more exercise. I
>don't know what the connection is between exercise and total cholesterol/
>HDL ratio  my doctor says there is one.

Start every day with cod liver oil and pickled herring ...

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 02:04:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03786
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 02:04:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0010C03D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 8:17:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12967921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 08:17:45 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ACHiK13209 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:17:45 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws96-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.96]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6ACHgq05071
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:17:42 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2B58AD.28682.4C69C2@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2C25E3.DB5F3CA4@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:17:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Michael E. Macmillan" wrote:

> Please pay attention, Alyce. There were no kids in her school who could not
> afford it.

But mine weren't the only schools in town.  There were almost certainly
children in some parts of town who couldn't afford it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 02:19:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03847
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 02:19:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010C153@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 8:32:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12969074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 08:32:12 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ACWCK15699 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:32:12 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBQGM>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:32:11 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBQGK; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:32:02 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <F214WcB2KWFYobPJLTq00004ab1@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020710143114.03402660@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:31:56 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D21C67D.13872.C1608D@localhost>

15:27 02.07.2002 -0400 skrev Paul R. Barfoot:
>I think gender neutral but not neuter pronouns are a great idea. I

You have them in Finnish. (And in Estonian, Kristin?)

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 02:19:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03854
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 02:19:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9F0CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 8:27:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12969091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 08:32:50 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ACWoK15739 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:32:50 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-125.panax.com
          [63.163.41.125]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6ACWnj03342 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          08:32:49 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <F92Z2hoVrpUVmk5nlBd0000445d@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020710082434.00b116c0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:32:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020710135812.00bd0470@victoria.nb.no>

At 02:01 PM 7/10/2002 +0200, espen wrote:
 >I can't remember if I have said this already: Ingjerd got a pasta
>roller/cutter as a birthday present a couple of years ago and it has just
>been hidden in a cupboard. But a month or so ago we had our first try of
>home made pasta and it was very good. I made the dough from flour, oil and
>eggs. The rolling and cutting and so on is clearly something which has to
>be learned by practice...

The key, as we have discovered, is the consistency of the dough---too
sticky and it wraps around the rollers; too dry and it breaks apart.  It's
better to start out a little "wet"; one can always add a little flour.  If
you have trouble with the cut pasta sticking together, try dusting it
lightly with rice flour (a tip from my daughter).  And yes, fresh pasta
cooks in about half the time, so you'd better have the sauce already made.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 02:34:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03881
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 02:34:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9F261@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 8:42:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12970379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 08:47:56 -0400
Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ACluK19049 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:47:56 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.ad.1fe49a5f (4005) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          08:47:48 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <ad.1fe49a5f.2a5d86f4@aol.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:47:48 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: big families
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/10/2002 7:10:11 AM Central Daylight Time,
prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes:

<<
  As an adult, the question "How many kids do you have?" is
difficult to answer for much the same reason.
>>

You could answer "Not enough" or "Enough." It depends on how
you feel.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 02:39:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03893
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 02:39:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9F2DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 8:47:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12970717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 08:52:34 -0400
Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ACqYK19728 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:52:34 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.99.2926d4df (4005) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          08:52:25 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <99.2926d4df.2a5d8809@aol.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:52:25 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Tyrannical secretaries and bosses
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/10/2002 7:02:46 AM Central Daylight Time,
natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes:

<<
This reminds me of the tyrannical
secretary who ran the office in my hs.
>>

I think I know what happened to her:  she created the point system at
Sears.  You can't get sick or hurt or miss work for any reason without
getting 4 points if you don't call in or 2 if you do.  If you leave without
a manager's permission, you get 4 points.  So you can't die:  dying on
the job gets you 4 points because you are leaving without a manager's
permission, and dying off the job gets you 4 points because you are
missing work without calling in.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 02:55:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03920
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 02:55:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9F534@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 9:02:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12972420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:08:20 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AD8KK23691 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:08:20 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09449 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:00:34 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02
          09:00:34 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02 09:00:19 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D2BF79F.25367.187DB7@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:00:16 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Groundhog Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000701c227de$6a355be0$360332d1@0018079268>

oh, that explains it.  I was sure I had deleted messages yesterday
and yet they were still there. I thought I was just misremembering.

BrP




> Wonder what's going on.
> I'm getting the same mail
> over and over and over.
>
> Would you people please
> stop repeating yourselves?
>
>              - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 03:01:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03935
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 03:01:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9F622@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 9:09:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12973090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:14:33 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ADEWK25167 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:14:32 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14236 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:14:20 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02
          09:14:20 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02 09:14:14 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <4.2.2.20020709202811.00a3aa00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D2BFADF.12060.253036@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:14:08 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: The Pledge
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020709203135.00a45100@uclink.berkeley.edu>

I LIKE this!!!!

BrP




> Some comedian said it should be "One nation, under Canada".  Cracked me up.
>
> Easily amused,
> Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 03:01:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03939
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 03:01:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9F625@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 9:09:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12973100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:14:44 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ADEhK25183 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:14:43 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBQJ5>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:14:42 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBQJW; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:14:33 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020710143549.00bc36b8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:14:26 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      An den shönen grauen ... or: WHTUIGAV
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F120k0FP466L082lTXG00004f1a@hotmail.com>

Graz is not of world class, and its trams and buses (there is no subway)
stop pretty early. It will, however, be European Culture City in 2003
something it is impossible not to discover when one is there. The train
ride there from Vienna is partly dull (the first part) and then very
beatifull between Glöggniz and Mühlzzuschag where it clims up to about 1000
meters. My hotel was nice and I discovered that the tram just outside the
door went to the train station so it was easy to get away.

In Vienna I found the hotel Opera (fittingly in Schickanedergasse) where I
have stayed once before easily. It lies near the Karlsplatz and the large
outdoor market: Naschmarkt. It is also near the Secession building with its
golden califlower (Krautkopf as the Viennese call it:
http://www.dominikanerinnen.at/gym/comenius/wien/Sezession.htm). The center
of Vienna is small and one can walk everywhere (and I am now a canidate for
membership in the Flat Feet Society) but it is also easy to use the subway
and the trams, and there are handy 72-hour tickets.

Ingjerd's conference ended on Saturday and in the evening we went to the
Rathausplatz for dinner al fresco: there is a large screen where they show
movies (especially concert and opera movies) for free, and seats, tables
and benches. There is something like 20 food stands with different kinds of
food, wine, beer etc, and the plates and glasses (real glasses, not plastic
or styrofoam) are common to them all so that after you have eaten you just
place them on collecting tables and don't care about where you bought your
food. The Viennese also seem a little less German than the Germans: they
break the rules and picninc on the lawns.

We have also been to the zoo in the Schönbrunn and seen the fantastic
Palmenhaus (http://www.malediven.at/schoenbr.htm) and we couldn't resist
going to the Prater and take a trip with the large wheel.

We will definitely go back to Vienna. Just a few hours before we left
yesterday we found a set of museums (in the Museumquartier) with some very
interesting exhibitions.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 03:02:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03943
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 03:02:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9F649@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 9:10:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12972128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:15:44 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AD5iK22889 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:05:44 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6AD5iUh011517 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:05:44 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207100905210.14399-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:05:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: what I did/was in Texas
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207092133050.10287-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:

>I've always liked this word, though I figure I don't know what it means to
>people who use it.
>
>I like it because I think of somebody kicking dried up cow pies, and
>having a good time doing it!

You've got it!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 03:03:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03947
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 03:03:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0010C538@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 9:16:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12973287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:16:34 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ADGXK25580 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:16:33 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBQKB>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:16:32 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBQJ9; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:16:29 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020710135812.00bd0470@victoria.nb.no>
            <F92Z2hoVrpUVmk5nlBd0000445d@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020710151502.00ba8a98@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:16:22 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020710082434.00b116c0@mail.panax.com>

08:32 10.07.2002 -0400 skrev clyde w. voigtlander:
>At 02:01 PM 7/10/2002 +0200, espen wrote:
> >I can't remember if I have said this already: Ingjerd got a pasta
>>roller/cutter as a birthday present a couple of years ago and it has just
>>been hidden in a cupboard. But a month or so ago we had our first try of
>>home made pasta and it was very good. I made the dough from flour, oil and
>>eggs. The rolling and cutting and so on is clearly something which has to
>>be learned by practice...
>
>The key, as we have discovered, is the consistency of the dough---too
>sticky and it wraps around the rollers; too dry and it breaks apart.  It's
>better to start out a little "wet"; one can always add a little flour.  If
>you have trouble with the cut pasta sticking together, try dusting it
>lightly with rice flour (a tip from my daughter).  And yes, fresh pasta
>cooks in about half the time, so you'd better have the sauce already made.

Aha - I will try the rice flour. I will also try to get a "hard" enough
wheat flour. Standard baking flour in Norway is on the soft side.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 03:06:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03951
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 03:06:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0010C575@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 9:19:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12972604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:19:44 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AD9iK24020 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:09:44 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6AD9hUh012500 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:09:44 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207100907590.14399-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:09:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE56FmCQnszhkxpBFeU00008867@hotmail.com>

>>I grew up hearing French all the time because of Canadian TV.
>>Karen

For me, it was initially Spanish (<Tex-Mex>), everywhere I lived in Texas,
then French (<Cajun> or <coonass>, another excellent word) after we moved
to Beaumont.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 03:08:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03963
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 03:08:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9F6FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 9:16:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12972810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:21:46 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ADBjK24514 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:11:45 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6ADBjUh013148 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:11:45 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207100911310.14399-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:11:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Pledge
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020709203135.00a45100@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

>Some comedian said it should be "One nation, under Canada".  Cracked me up.

Or "over Mexico."

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 03:10:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA04032
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 03:10:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010C5E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 9:23:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12972939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:23:10 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ADDAK24818 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:13:10 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6ADDAUh013585 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:13:10 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207100912430.14399-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:13:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207092149170.10967-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:

>> >It makes me hate the player.
>> Why?
>
>This is a fair question and I was buying time before answering it.
>
>But I come against my poor critical abilities:  I mean, low skill in
>making explicit, and clear to others, why I find something good or bad.
>
>But I'll do the best I can:
[deleted]

Thanks - I shall ponder your response.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 03:12:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05009
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 03:12:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9F791@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 9:20:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12973231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:25:46 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ADFkK25466 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:15:46 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6ADFjUh014202 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:15:45 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207100915040.14399-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:15:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: LAX shutdown
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.2.20020709175827.01342ff0@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Elaine M Brennan wrote:

>>I just tuned into CNN and learned that an int'l terminal at LAX has been
>>shut down because of a shooting.
>
>Actually, for a while there the entire airport was shut down -- I know,
>having arrived at LAX at approximately 12:25 pm.   Before we de-planed, the
>pilot got on the intercom to announce, "Folks, there's, um .... been an

Wow! Thanks for the details. Enjoy Santa Barbara!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 03:14:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05019
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 03:13:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9F7AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 9:21:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12973314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:27:00 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ADH0K25669 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:17:00 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6ADH0Uh014546 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:17:00 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207100916290.14399-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:17:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <005701c227da$ff2713a0$360332d1@0018079268>

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Doris Markland wrote:

>> the school bus with, at school.  Actually that would've been very
>> interesting, in retrospect, and make a much better story on words-l
>years
>> later.  .
>
>That's adage inspiring.
>Like, so live your life that
>you make a good story.

I think it is an excellent retirement adage -

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 03:25:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05410
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 03:25:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9F8E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 9:33:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12974900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:38:44 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ADciK29223 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:38:44 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6ADche28975 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          08:38:43 -0500 (CDT)
References: <000701c227de$6a355be0$360332d1@0018079268> 
            <20020710091140.B3059@yoccoz.multinix.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000c01c22817$4c551b40$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:39:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Groundhog Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 01:52:53AM -0500, Doris Markland wrote:
> = Wonder what's going on.
> = I'm getting the same mail
> = over and over and over.
> =
> = Would you people please
> = stop repeating yourselves?
> =
> =              - D. M.
>
> Newbie.  They've been doing it since 1991.
>
> steph

Aside from the fact that wordsler
conversations repeat in cycles, etc.,
I really was getting clusters of the same
mail over and over again yesterday.
Must have been my service.

                - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 03:30:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05425
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 03:30:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0010C7B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 9:41:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12975037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:41:07 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ADf7K29582 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:41:07 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6ADf6e01911 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          08:41:06 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <OE56UwqiHf6zCPBNdQ700008bfb@hotmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001a01c22817$a18c98e0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:42:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >Stock up on Kleenex.
>
>          - D. M.
>
> Oh, I will. It's probably one of the many items on the Required Supply
List.
>
> What is it with these huge lists of required school supplies schools
now put
> out?
>
> AS, "We've Only Just Begun"


AS . . the kleenex is for you.  It's on

YOUR required list.

               - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 03:40:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05436
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 03:40:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9FAC5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 9:48:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12976091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:53:54 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe40.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.97]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ADrrK31896 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:53:53 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 06:53:48 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 13:53:48.0362 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[371B3AA0:01C22819]
Message-ID:  <OE40t3HvoFOAmEaJswF00008d9b@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:55:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>AS . . the kleenex is for you.  It's on

>YOUR required list.


>               - D. M.

:). I know. I, for whatever reason(s), am now virtually incapable of
producing tears. I'd love to regain the ability.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 03:43:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05443
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 03:43:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9FB07@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 9:51:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12976250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:56:36 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ADuZK32311 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:56:35 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBQ3B>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:56:35 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBQ3A; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:56:30 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D24941A.3960BCC3@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020710155445.034448d8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:56:24 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Christian Review Men in Black II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020704121020.024a6740@mail.istori.com>

12:49 04.07.2002 -0700 skrev Peter Kaminski:
>Speaking of movies, we saw Lilo & Stitch this week.  I was expecting an
>overdone Disney thing, particularly after seeing the "there's one in every
>family" ads where Disney attached the little blue monster to most of the
>other animated characters in the canon -- which made it look like the
>little guy needed help from everyone else's reputation.
>
>I was pleasantly surprised, though.  It's charming and
>sweet-but-not-syrupy, the characters feel like real people, and there's
>lots of funny little details to notice.  I really liked it.

So did we - we found a cinema showing original language version movies and
saw it on Monday. I am happy we didn't go to a dubbed German version.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 03:49:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05456
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 03:49:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9FBFE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 9:57:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12975998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:02:37 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ADqbK31763 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:52:37 -0400
Received: from brandebank.com ([218.50.187.237]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ADqaZ25740 for
          <WORDS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:52:36 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="ks_c_5601-1987"
X-Priority: 3
Message-ID:  <200207101352.g6ADqaZ25740@pasta.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:52:39 +0900
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: BRANDBANK <brandebank@BRANDEBANK.COM>
Subject:      BRANDBANK, valuable source for your BRAND business [ADV]
Comments: To: Dear WORDS-L <WORDS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

<html>
<head>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=ks_c_5601-1987">
<title>Untitled</title>
</head>

<body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ±¼¸²">
<DIV><IFRAME
style="BORDER-RIGHT: black 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: black 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: black 1px solid; WIDTH: 100%; BORDER-BOTTOM: black 1px solid; HEIGHT: 660px"
src="http://www.brandebank.com" frameBorder=0>
</IFRAME>
<DIV><BR><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT
face=Arial size=2>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"></P>
<P class=MsoNormal align=left><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT
face=Arial size=2>This message is a commercial advertisement. It is compliant
with all federal and state laws regarding email messages including the
California Business and Professions Code. We have provided ¡°</FONT><A
href="mailto:brandebank@brandebank.com?subject=REMOVE&amp;body=Please do not send this message to WORDS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU ."><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none"><FONT
face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>opt out</FONT></SPAN></A><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial>¡± email contact so you can be deleted from our mailing list. In
addition we have provided the subject line ¡°ADV¡± to provide you notification
that is a commercial advertisement for person over 18yrs old.<BR><o:p></O:P></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P></SPAN></B></FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV>

</body>

</html>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 03:55:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05463
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 03:55:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9FC9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:02:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12976969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:08:01 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe23.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.80]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AE81K01792 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:08:01 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 07:07:55 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 14:07:55.0794 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[30371720:01C2281B]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <OE23pWD5r4EaCDrJOqA00003201@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:09:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      A Conversation With Bunny Wailer
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://new.onepaper.com/stthomasvi/?v=3Dd&i=3D&s=3DNews:Local&p=3D52771


AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 03:59:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05470
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 03:59:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9FCFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:07:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12977223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:12:34 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe27.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.84]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AECXK02365 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:12:33 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 07:12:28 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 14:12:28.0361 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[D2AD8390:01C2281B]
Message-ID:  <OE27fogkJXrRjbDt3Hv00008e8c@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:13:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tomorrow and Friday Master Carl's preschool is closed so I am taking him
elsewhere while I teach tomorrow (actually it's over to the local Montessori
School which is actually closed now, but the director is a friend of mine
and she will be there doing some work with her own kids playing around;
she's hoping that having Carl there will keep all of the kids a bit more
occupied).

Details notwithstanding, the question is this: I need to pack a lunch to
send along with him. What should I prepare?

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:08:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05489
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:08:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9FE16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:16:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12977950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:21:45 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AELjK04147 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:21:45 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11532 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:21:44 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02
          10:21:44 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02 10:21:15 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D2C0A97.3500.6297A0@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:21:11 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE27fogkJXrRjbDt3Hv00008e8c@hotmail.com>

A variety of healthy snacky things and one more substantial lunchy
thing.  It would be nice perhaps for him to have a little extra to share.
What does he like?  Cut up fruit ? raisins? nuts? finger food
veggies? cheese?

  Every once in a while I would pack lunches that were made up of
things that all began with the same letter.  Nert always noticed. Tina
never did.

BrP


> Details notwithstanding, the question is this: I need to pack a lunch to
> send along with him. What should I prepare?
>
> AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:13:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05857
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:13:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03E9FEC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:21:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12978409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:26:31 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe36.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.93]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AEQVK05024 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:26:31 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 07:26:25 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 14:26:25.0906 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C5E4BD20:01C2281D]
Message-ID:  <OE36bQpYtMIO5pt4gVv00002498@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:27:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>BrP:

>A variety of healthy snacky things and one more substantial lunchy
thing.  It would be nice perhaps for him to have a little extra to share.

Good idea all around.

>What does he like?  Cut up fruit ? raisins? nuts? finger food
veggies? cheese?

All of the above except nuts. (I don't think he likes the texture or
something.)


>  Every once in a while I would pack lunches that were made up of
things that all began with the same letter.  Nert always noticed. Tina
never did.

Oooh, good idea.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:21:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05892
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:21:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA0009@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:28:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12979302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:34:09 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AEY9t07117 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:34:09 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15804 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:32:15 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02
          10:32:15 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02 10:32:04 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D2C0D1A.3815.6C686D@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:31:55 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE36bQpYtMIO5pt4gVv00002498@hotmail.com>

oh, and I would often put in a non-edible thing like a sticker or a little
drawing of a hand making the "I love you" sign.  This cute stuff
stopped of course when they were in Jr Hi because anything
beyond the basics would have been too too embarrassing.

BrP









> >A variety of healthy snacky things and one more substantial lunchy
> thing.  It would be nice perhaps for him to have a little extra to share.
>
> Good idea all around.
>
> >What does he like?  Cut up fruit ? raisins? nuts? finger food
> veggies? cheese?
>
> All of the above except nuts. (I don't think he likes the texture or
> something.)
>
>
> >  Every once in a while I would pack lunches that were made up of
> things that all began with the same letter.  Nert always noticed. Tina
> never did.
>
> Oooh, good idea.
>
> AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:23:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05896
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:23:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA0091@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:30:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12978380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:36:00 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AEQ0K04953 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:26:00 -0400
Received: from [202.68.149.202] ([202.68.149.202]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6AEPtZ03647; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:25:56
          -0400
X-Authentication-Warning: pasta.cc.uga.edu: [202.68.149.202] didn't use HELO
                         protocol
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Encoding: MIME
Importance: Normal
Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by 73EW4T8.uga.cc.uga.edu with SMTP for
          wictech@uga.cc.uga.edu; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:29:44 -0500
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  Quoted-Printable
Message-ID:  <TMN71ALI0RJX54VN3T0.1SA2VUIALJHV11PR3E.ucrvm2.bitne@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:29:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: ucrvm2.bitne@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
Subject:      Refinance and Save $$$
Comments: To: wictech@uga.cc.uga.edu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

We will help you get the mortgage loan you want!

Only takes 2 minutes to fill out our form.
http://211.163.194.36/st/index.php

Whether a new home loan is what you seek or to refinance your current home =
loan
at a lower interest rate and payment, we can help!

Mortgage rates haven't been this low in the last 12 months, take action now!
Refinance your home with us and include all of those pesky credit card bills =
or
use the extra cash for that pool you've always wanted...

Where others says NO, we say YES!!!
Even if you have been turned down elsewhere, we can help!

Easy terms! Our mortgage referral service combines the
highest quality loans with most economical rates and the easiest =
qualification!

Click Here to fill out our form.
http://211.163.194.36/st/index.php

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:28:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05900
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:28:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA013E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:36:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12980121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:41:41 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AEfft08585 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:41:41 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19605 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:41:40 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02
          10:41:40 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02 10:41:14 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D2C0F44.13658.74DD4A@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:41:09 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE36bQpYtMIO5pt4gVv00002498@hotmail.com>

This is bringing back all kinds of memories.  When my kids were in
high school, they usually either made their own lunches or bought
cafeteria food - but every now and then I'd get to pack their lunches.
I took perhaps too much delight in tossing in something that I
imagined would cause surprised looks from their friends when the
lunch box was opened - like a dog biscuit or a rock or one of those
little packages of tender vittles or something.

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:30:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05912
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:30:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA0166@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:37:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12980233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:43:11 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AEhBt08969 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:43:11 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ100BLWFJYTE@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:43:11 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D2A587F.5C5313A@maynor.net> <3D2B0C29.6080607@swbell.net>
            <3D2B1755.404CBE39@valstar.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2C47A6.8090909@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:41:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:


> This brings me to a new subject: I understand that there are no longer
> birthday parties where children play Pin the Tail, but that they are all
> taken to MacDonald's or to an event, or else entertainment is hired.
> When did all that begin? And why?
>


Oh, there are still those sorts of birthday parties.  I've
promised Ana a sleepover party for her 7th birthday (last
year she had no party aside from a family party since I
deemed a visit to Disney to be Quite Enough).

I haven't been to a party where entertainment is hired; that
seems to be the custom among those a peg or two up the
economic ladder from us.  The attraction to McDonalds, etc.
parties is that busy working moms don't have to do any prep
or clean-up for them.  Some of this type are very cute.
Ana's been to the movies, bowling, a fancy dress-up tea
party, the YMCA, gymnastics, and the zoo (that one is
expensive) this year.


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:33:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05917
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:33:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0010D038@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:46:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12979598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:46:05 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AEa4t07378 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:36:04 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6AEa3Uh012389 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:36:03 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207101035100.14399-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:36:03 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2C0D1A.3815.6C686D@localhost>

pb and banana sandwich
small box of raisins
cookie/s
apple

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:33:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05928
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:33:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA01B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:41:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12980408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:46:54 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AEkrt09392 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:46:53 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ100BIEFQ5T9@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:46:53 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020709212908.838A97CDE@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2C4884.7090100@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:45:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Rita Chapman said:
>>>
>>>
>>>>BTW, officially, he's attached to a group in Texas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Will he visit?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Sure.  He's been down twice to supervise system upgrades.
>>
>
> To Dallas? If he comes a little further south, let me know.:)
>


        I think.  I can never keep Dallas and Houston straight for
some reason.  I also often confuse San Antonio and Austin.





--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:40:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05992
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:40:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA028E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:48:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12981032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:53:44 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AErit10706 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:53:44 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ10054TG1JH1@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:53:44 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020710034709.84FC8820F@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2C4A1F.7020905@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:52:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Ann Borkin said:
>
>>On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>EATEN, bonniev.
>>>>
>>>>Having done that, it makes me feel like I'm displaying a compulsive Pain
>>>>in the Ass Correction Syndrome, which I admire others for NOT displaying
>>>>at this point.
>>>>
>>>        Errant Pedantry Syndrome
>>>
>>          ^^^^^
>>That'd be Arrant I believe.
>>
>
> I was wondering what she meant, thank you.
>


        No, I meant Errant.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:40:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05993
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:40:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA028B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:48:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12981040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:53:47 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AErjt10718 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:53:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 29DA57D04; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 07:53:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710145342.29DA57D04@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:53:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE56UwqiHf6zCPBNdQ700008bfb@hotmail.com> from Amy Burns Short at
              "Jul 10, 2002  6:27:51 am"

Amy Burns Short said:
> What is it with these huge lists of required school supplies schools now put
> out?

I thought they have always done that.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:43:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06026
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:43:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA0305@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:50:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12981439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:56:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AEuCt11494 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:56:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D8D737DB0; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 07:56:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710145611.D8D737DB0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:56:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2C210E.2B308507@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 10,
              2002  6:57: 2 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> We would've been in *VERY* DS if caught trying to
> leave the school grounds at any time during the school day

I've never understood the point of this.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:45:45 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06042
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:45:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010D1E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:58:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12981721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:58:43 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AEwht12233 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:58:43 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ1005K2G9VH6@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:58:43 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D2BEBA7.28607.150FB1@localhost>
Message-ID:  <3D2C4B4A.2060804@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:57:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: big families
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

>   When I was growing up, the question I always dreaded was "How
> many brothers and sisters do you have?"  My parents took in foster
> kids - sometimes whole families - and adopted some, kept some
> without adopting, let go of others.  Who, in that context, counts as
> a sibling?  If the criterion is biological, then I have only one brother.
> If the criterion is legal, then I have a brother and two sisters.  If the
> criterion is that they lived in our home and called my parents "Mom
> and Dad" then the number is too large to count.
>
>   As an adult, the question "How many kids do you have?" is
> difficult to answer for much the same reason.  Big family?  Indeed!



        At the start of a new school year, I often have to explain to
Ana's new teacher that she is an only child and she also has
five (this year) sisters.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:48:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06050
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:48:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010D224@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:01:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12981975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 11:01:10 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AF1At12833 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:01:10 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6AF18L05284 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:01:08 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207101000350.4575-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:01:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2C0D1A.3815.6C686D@localhost>

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

> oh, and I would often put in a non-edible thing like a sticker or a little
> drawing of a hand making the "I love you" sign.  This cute stuff

What's the "I love you" sign?

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:48:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06054
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:48:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA03D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:56:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12981997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 11:01:31 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AF1Vt12938 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:01:31 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ100BDXGEITC@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:01:31 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <99.2926d4df.2a5d8809@aol.com>
Message-ID:  <3D2C4BF2.6050201@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:00:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Tyrannical secretaries and bosses
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Evelyn Duncan wrote:

> In a message dated 07/10/2002 7:02:46 AM Central Daylight Time,
> natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes:
>
> <<
> This reminds me of the tyrannical
> secretary who ran the office in my hs.
>
>
> I think I know what happened to her:  she created the point system at
> Sears.  You can't get sick or hurt or miss work for any reason without
> getting 4 points if you don't call in or 2 if you do.  If you leave without
> a manager's permission, you get 4 points.  So you can't die:  dying on
> the job gets you 4 points because you are leaving without a manager's
> permission, and dying off the job gets you 4 points because you are
> missing work without calling in.
>


        If you're dead, you beat the system.


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:48:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06058
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:48:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010D230@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:01:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12982022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 11:01:54 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AF1st13001 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:01:54 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6AF1s7Y045049 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          11:01:54 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001b01c22822$badba0b0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:01:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: what I did/was in Texas
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207092136330.14114-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bethany K. Dumas
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:39 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: what I did/was in Texas
>
>
> On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> >> > Hint #1: kicker is half a word.
> >>
> >> Asskicker?  Bucketkicker?  Footballkicker?
> >
> >Shitkicker, I think.
>
> Right. Hint #2 would have been:
>
> The call letters of a popular radio station in Houston are KIKK.
>
> S***kickers are cowboy boots, originally, then persons who wear cowboy
> boots.
>
> Bethany
>

We are all adults. Shitkickers are fine. No need for the asterixes.

alec

------------
Alec D. Plotkin
plotkina@isc.upenn.edu

"Peace cannot be kept by force.  It can only be achieved by
understanding" - Albert Einstein

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:52:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06071
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:52:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA042E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:59:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12982247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 11:05:04 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe69.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.204]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AF54t13548 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:05:04 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 08:04:58 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 15:04:58.0868 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[2886BB40:01C22823]
Message-ID:  <OE69ByW3pbY0dwLpczr00008ed3@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:06:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short said:
> What is it with these huge lists of required school supplies schools now
put
> out?


>I thought they have always done that.

>Karen

I'm not sure what "they" have done, but in my own case my mother just got me
everything she thought I might need and that was it. My school did not
produce such a list.

It does make sense, though. One can count on less and less that any given
group of people would be on the same wavelength.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:52:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06075
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:52:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA0434@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:59:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12982270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 11:05:19 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AF5Jt13604 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:05:19 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6AF5HD05390 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:05:17 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207101003390.4575-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:05:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: what I did/was in Texas
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <001b01c22822$badba0b0$48305b80@EAGLE72>

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Alec D. Plotkin wrote:

> > S***kickers are cowboy boots, originally, then persons who wear cowboy
> > boots.
> We are all adults. Shitkickers are fine. No need for the asterixes.

Oh my god!  I'm sucked back in, I can't get out.  Asterisks!

(I think - looks weird though)

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 04:58:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06080
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 04:58:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA04E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:05:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12982727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 11:11:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AFBOt14681 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:11:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 221FD7F3E; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 08:11:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710151123.221FD7F3E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:11:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2C0F44.13658.74DD4A@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              10, 2002 10:41: 9 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> This is bringing back all kinds of memories.  When my kids were in
> high school, they usually either made their own lunches or bought
> cafeteria food - but every now and then I'd get to pack their lunches.
> I took perhaps too much delight in tossing in something that I
> imagined would cause surprised looks from their friends when the
> lunch box was opened - like a dog biscuit or a rock or one of those
> little packages of tender vittles or something.

I want you to make my lunches, Paul!!!!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 05:00:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06092
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 05:00:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA0538@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:07:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12982838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 11:13:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AFD2t14939 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:13:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9E9B57F4D; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 08:13:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710151301.9E9B57F4D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:13:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2C4884.7090100@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 10,
              2002  9:45:24 am"

Rita Chapman said:
>         I think.  I can never keep Dallas and Houston straight for
> some reason.

They are both approximately equidistant from Austin, about 3.5 hours.

> I also often confuse San Antonio and Austin.

SA has the Alamo.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 05:02:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06096
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 05:02:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA056B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:09:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12982932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 11:15:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AFFEt15190 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:15:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1FAB97EC3; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 08:15:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710151514.1FAB97EC3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:15:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: what I did/was in Texas
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207101003390.4575-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 10, 2002 10: 5:17 am"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Alec D. Plotkin wrote:
>
> > > S***kickers are cowboy boots, originally, then persons who wear cowboy
> > > boots.
> > We are all adults. Shitkickers are fine. No need for the asterixes.
>
> Oh my god!  I'm sucked back in, I can't get out.  Asterisks!
>
> (I think - looks weird though)

I like the idea that there are multiple French comic book heroes.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 05:10:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06115
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 05:10:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA06A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:17:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12983836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 11:23:27 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AFNRt17363 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:23:27 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws171-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.171]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6AFNJq10958
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:23:20 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710145611.D8D737DB0@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2C5134.8E0F02FE@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:22:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> > We would've been in *VERY* DS if caught trying to
> > leave the school grounds at any time during the school day
>
> I've never understood the point of this.

I don't remember ever hearing the reason for it given.  I guess maybe it
had something to do with keeping account of bodies.  Then again, as far
as lunch goes, maybe it had something to do with making sure everybody
ate.  And, now that I think about it, there's no way anybody could have
left for lunch and gotten back on time.  Our lunch periods were
something like twenty minutes.   There were a few houses close enough to
my hs that it *might* have been possible for somebody to sprint across
the practice field to one of those houses, grab food, and scarf it down
while sprinting back.  No houses were that close to my jr high, even
though it was visible from my high school.  I'd have to draw a map to
make it clear why sprinting from my hs to a house might be possible, but
not from my jr high (given the lunch period length).  And no houses were
within the block of my elementary school, although some were not
terribly far away.  In fact, walking back across the playground and
through what we called the woods to get to the next street might in fact
have taken less time than sprinting across my high school's parking lot
and rather large playing field.  In any case, trying to go anywhere and
get back in that timeframe would have been *extremely* challenging.
Then the people in the main office would have been faced with the
problem of "tardy slips," etc.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 05:15:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06134
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 05:15:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA072D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:22:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12984154 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 11:28:21 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AFSLt18035 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:28:21 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws171-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.171]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6AFSHq12452
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:28:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE69ByW3pbY0dwLpczr00008ed3@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2C528F.B4B3666F@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:28:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:

> >I thought they have always done that.
> >Karen
>
> I'm not sure what "they" have done, but in my own case my mother just got me
> everything she thought I might need and that was it. My school did not
> produce such a list.

We had lists, a list for each grade.  Local stores also had copies of
the lists and had them posted.  But the lists were very short.  All
through elementary school two items were a package of manilla paper and
a box of crayons (which we never called crayons -- we called them
"colors").  I think a container of paste was also required in some of
the grades.  At whatever point we started drawing circles and stuff, a
compass and a protractor were required.  I can't remember much of
anything else.  I do know that one of the joyous rituals on the last day
of school in elementary school was when the teacher handed out the
leftover manilla paper.  (The other things we kept ourselves.  The paper
we for some reason turned in to the teacher the first day and then got
the leftover back at the end of the year.)  It was great on the first
few days of summer to go home and draw pictures on that paper.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 05:22:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06138
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 05:22:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA07FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:29:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12984602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 11:35:04 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AFZ4t19030 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:35:04 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ1005XZHY7I6@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:34:56 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <OE27fogkJXrRjbDt3Hv00008e8c@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D2C53C7.1050204@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:33:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:

> Tomorrow and Friday Master Carl's preschool is closed so I am taking him
> elsewhere while I teach tomorrow (actually it's over to the local Montessori
> School which is actually closed now, but the director is a friend of mine
> and she will be there doing some work with her own kids playing around;
> she's hoping that having Carl there will keep all of the kids a bit more
> occupied).
>
> Details notwithstanding, the question is this: I need to pack a lunch to
> send along with him. What should I prepare?



Ana likes big hunks of Jack/Colby cheese, Go-gurt, those
fruit & jello cups, stuff like that.  She won't eat a sandwich.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 05:23:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06145
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 05:23:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0010D5E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:36:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12984694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 11:36:13 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AFaCt19181 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:36:12 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ10053DI0CH6@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:36:12 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020710145342.29DA57D04@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2C5413.9070908@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:34:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Amy Burns Short said:
>
>>What is it with these huge lists of required school supplies schools now put
>>out?
>>
>
> I thought they have always done that.
>


        Not when I was a kid.

        In August, K-Mart always puts everything on sale really
cheap.  That's when I get all of Ana's supplies for the year.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 05:25:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06153
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 05:25:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA085B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:33:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12984820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 11:38:28 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AFcSt19556 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:38:28 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ10058SI44I6@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:38:28 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D2B1282.10304@swbell.net> <3D2B7288.B34CAFA2@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2C549B.9020809@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:36:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Dumb kids
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>>Mixing the "slow" kids in with the "fast" kids is called
>>inclusion.  It doesn't happen with busing; it's more a
>>reverse busing.  In the past, if these kids were permitted
>>in school at all (before IDEA in the '70s schools could
>>refuse to educate them), they were often in special schools
>>for the handicapped, etc.  Now, they go to the regular
>>
>
> "Inclusion" must have replaced "mainstreaming," which is what I thought
> the term was for that kind of thing.


Yes, it has.  It has something to do with the philosophy of
having all children with disabilities out of the
self-contained classes and in the regular classes.


I didn't realize that's what
> Bonnie was talking about.  I thought she was talking about identifying
> parts of a city somehow more likely to have "slow" students and pulling
> them into schools in other parts of the city, where the students were
> "faster" and "richer," while pulling some of the "faster" and "richer"
> students into schools in other parts of town.  That's what sounded like
> bussing to me.  I hadn't realized before that the concept of school
> districts was something unique to my childhood.


Neighborhood schools usually do this.  Although a slow kid
in the faster richer neighborhood might get classified a
retard and not allowed to go.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 05:47:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06191
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 05:47:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0010D8AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:00:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12986730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 12:00:46 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f238.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.238]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AG0jt24349 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:00:45 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 09:00:40 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 16:00:40 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 16:00:40.0349 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[F03444D0:01C2282A]
Message-ID:  <F23866KnCdxRYhMleSn0000c85d@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:00:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
>>Details notwithstanding, the question is this: I need to pack a lunch to
>>send along with him. What should I prepare?
>
>Ana likes big hunks of Jack/Colby cheese, Go-gurt, those
>fruit & jello cups, stuff like that.  She won't eat a sandwich.

Do they have a refrigerator where Ana goes? When I was in school, our
lunches sat on the top shelf of the coat closet until lunchtime, meaning
everything was room temperature by the time it was eaten. Yogurt at room
temperature is a nasty thought.

Generally when I was a kid, I just didn't lunch, except maybe some Oreos or
TastyKakes.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 05:49:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06198
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 05:49:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA0B21@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:57:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12986918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 12:02:39 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AG2dt24776 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:02:39 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24272 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:02:38 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02
          12:02:38 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02 12:02:28 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D2C0D1A.3815.6C686D@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D2C2251.12450.EA98D9@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:02:25 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207101000350.4575-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

ASL sign for I love you is a combination of the letters I, L and Y.
With palm facing toward the person you're signing to, extend the
thumb, the first finger and the little finger, folding the other two
down.

I = little finger only
L = first finger and thumb
Y = little finger and thumb

BrP


> On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:
>
> > oh, and I would often put in a non-edible thing like a sticker or a little
> > drawing of a hand making the "I love you" sign.  This cute stuff
>
> What's the "I love you" sign?
>
> Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 05:51:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06202
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 05:51:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0010D91F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:04:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12987023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 12:04:44 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AG4it25033 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:04:44 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25228 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:04:43 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02
          12:04:43 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02 12:04:41 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D2C0F44.13658.74DD4A@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul   
            10, 2002 10:41: 9 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D2C22D0.18789.EC8C37@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:04:32 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020710151123.221FD7F3E@yellow.rahul.net>

It's a deal.

BrP


>
> I want you to make my lunches, Paul!!!!
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 05:53:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06206
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 05:53:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA0B7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:01:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12987185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 12:06:55 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AG6tt25450 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:06:55 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26198 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:06:42 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02
          12:06:42 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02 12:06:22 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207101003390.4575-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from   
            Ann Borkin at "Jul 10, 2002 10: 5:17 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D2C2339.21037.EE22EF@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:06:16 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: what I did/was in Texas
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020710151514.1FAB97EC3@yellow.rahul.net>

>
> I like the idea that there are multiple French comic book heroes.
>
> Karen

You beat me to this by about 10 seconds.

BrP

-would it be Asterices though?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 05:58:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06213
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 05:58:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA0BFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:05:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12987569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 12:11:11 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AGBBt26553 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:11:11 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28759 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:11:10 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02
          12:11:10 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02 12:10:45 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D2C243C.27366.F219AE@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:10:36 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F23866KnCdxRYhMleSn0000c85d@hotmail.com>

I usually sent frozen juice boxes if there wasn't a thermos in the
lunch box.  I just recently cleaned out the downstairs hall closet
top shelf and found about 10 old lunch boxes with various cartoon
characters on them.  None were in good enough shape to be
valuable to collectors however.

BrP



>
> Do they have a refrigerator where Ana goes? When I was in school, our
> lunches sat on the top shelf of the coat closet until lunchtime, meaning
> everything was room temperature by the time it was eaten. Yogurt at room
> temperature is a nasty thought.
>
> Generally when I was a kid, I just didn't lunch, except maybe some Oreos or
> TastyKakes.
>
> Marie
>    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 06:13:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06249
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 06:13:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0010DBF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:20:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12990407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 12:20:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AGK0t30343 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:20:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 21FD57DAF; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:20:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710162000.21FD57DAF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:19:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: what I did/was in Texas
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2C2339.21037.EE22EF@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              10, 2002 12: 6:16 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> >
> > I like the idea that there are multiple French comic book heroes.
> >
> > Karen
>
> You beat me to this by about 10 seconds.
>
> BrP
>
> -would it be Asterices though?

Don't try to out-Borkin the Borkinator! Back to the kitchen..

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 06:17:30 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06261
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 06:17:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010DD54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:29:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12992520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 12:29:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AGTgt02029 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:29:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1C5137F3C; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:29:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710162942.1C5137F3C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:29:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2C0D1A.3815.6C686D@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              10, 2002 10:31:55 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> oh, and I would often put in a non-edible thing like a sticker or a little
> drawing of a hand making the "I love you" sign.  This cute stuff
> stopped of course when they were in Jr Hi because anything
> beyond the basics would have been too too embarrassing.

I do hope that they remember these fondly.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 06:20:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06271
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 06:20:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA10DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:25:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12992825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 12:30:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AGUht02841 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:30:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0867C7FD0; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:30:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710163040.0867C7FD0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:30:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: LAX shutdown
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2C627C.F8387C79@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 10,
              2002  9:36:12 am"

Betty said:
> He is no longer retired, but wait, he is retired from SB isn't he?

UCSB

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 06:20:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06270
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 06:20:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA10A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:23:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12992391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 12:29:11 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AGTBt01761 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:29:11 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6AGTA706006
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:29:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20020709175827.01342ff0@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net>
            <3D2C1E22.66617E12@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2C627C.F8387C79@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:36:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: LAX shutdown
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Elaine M Brennan wrote:
>
> > Today, however, I'm sitting in Santa Barbara trying to relax for a day or
> > two.
>
> Have you seen Elwood?  Or does he eschew SB in retirement?

He is no longer retired, but wait, he is retired from SB isn't he?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 06:20:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06272
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 06:20:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA1120@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:27:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12993136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 12:32:37 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AGWbt03634 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:32:37 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6AGWa710533
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:32:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020709202811.00a3aa00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D2BFADF.12060.253036@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2C634A.78DBD439@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:39:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Pledge
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I knew you would.  :-)

Betty

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> I LIKE this!!!!
>
> BrP
>
> > Some comedian said it should be "One nation, under Canada".  Cracked me up.
> >
> > Easily amused,
> > Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 06:22:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06284
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 06:22:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA1194@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:29:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12993625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 12:35:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AGZDt04726 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:35:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0CDB67CF0; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:35:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710163512.0CDB67CF0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:35:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: casualty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020709235658.A1748@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul 9,
              2002 11:56:58 pm"

steph said:
> We've had a lot worse rain than this, but this one was just a lot
> at apparently the wrong time.

BTDT.

> Things could have been much worse - my next door neighbor had a
> couple of inches worth of water.  On the other hand, that might
> have been better, because then there would be nothing to do
> besides throw everything out.

This is very hard; I sympathize.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 06:22:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06285
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 06:22:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA1176@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:29:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12993490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 12:34:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AGYZt04450 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:34:35 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3B0417F5B; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 09:34:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710163432.3B0417F5B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:34:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B5C57.152D505C@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 9,
              2002  2:57:43 pm"

Betty said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > Rita Chapman said:
> > > Karen Kay wrote:
> > >
> > > > Rita Chapman said:
> > > >
> > > >>BTW, officially, he's attached to a group in Texas.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Will he visit?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sure.  He's been down twice to supervise system upgrades.
> >
> > To Dallas? If he comes a little further south, let me know.:)
>
> You want to meet RNH?  Not me.

I'd rather see Rita, it's true. But if he came to Austin, I'd go out
to dinner with him.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 06:27:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06294
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 06:27:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA1246@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:34:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12994094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 12:40:08 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AGe3t05878 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:40:04 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-125.panax.com
          [63.163.41.125]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6AGdwj18288 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          12:39:58 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D2C210E.2B308507@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020710123445.00b64958@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:39:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020710145611.D8D737DB0@yellow.rahul.net>

At 07:56 AM 7/10/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
>Natalie Maynor said:
> > We would've been in *VERY* DS if caught trying to
> > leave the school grounds at any time during the school day
>
>I've never understood the point of this.

I suspect that it has to do with liability, i.e., during school hours
(which depending on the school may or may not include lunchtime), students
are supposed to be under the supervision of the school.

cwv

As I wrote this, I had one of those episodes---this time, "school" did not
look like a real word.  Still doesn't.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 06:27:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06301
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 06:27:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010DE88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:40:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12994111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 12:40:14 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f156.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.156]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AGeEt05909 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:40:14 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 09:40:09 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 16:40:08 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 16:40:09.0120 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[741A0A00:01C22830]
Message-ID:  <F156xFAHImNllN104Is0000cb17@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:40:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
>I usually sent frozen juice boxes if there wasn't a thermos in the
>lunch box.

Great idea! a drinkable ice pack.

I just recently cleaned out the downstairs hall closet
>top shelf and found about 10 old lunch boxes with various cartoon
>characters on them.  None were in good enough shape to be
>valuable to collectors however.

Don't throw them out until your children get to ogle them one more time. I
get very nostalgic about old lunch boxes I carried.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 06:32:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06314
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 06:32:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA12C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:39:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12994549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 12:45:04 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AGj4t06901 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:45:04 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6AGj3724803
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:45:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710151301.9E9B57F4D@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2C6635.5EA6B6B2@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:52:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Rita Chapman said:
> >         I think.  I can never keep Dallas and Houston straight for
> > some reason.
>
> They are both approximately equidistant from Austin, about 3.5 hours.
>
> > I also often confuse San Antonio and Austin.
>
> SA has the Alamo.

And the River Walk.  Austin has the Quack buses.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 06:32:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06321
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 06:32:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA12DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:39:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12994590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 12:45:24 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AGjOt06956 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:45:24 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ100BZ3L7NT9@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:45:23 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F23866KnCdxRYhMleSn0000c85d@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D2C644A.3050908@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:43:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

>> From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
>>
>>> Details notwithstanding, the question is this: I need to pack a lunch to
>>> send along with him. What should I prepare?
>>
>>
>> Ana likes big hunks of Jack/Colby cheese, Go-gurt, those
>> fruit & jello cups, stuff like that.  She won't eat a sandwich.
>
>
> Do they have a refrigerator where Ana goes? When I was in school, our
> lunches sat on the top shelf of the coat closet until lunchtime, meaning
> everything was room temperature by the time it was eaten. Yogurt at room
> temperature is a nasty thought.
>

No, no fridge.  They have these little insulated lunchboxes
now that do a pretty good job of keeping stuff cool.  The
go-gurt is frozen, so by lunch time it's melted, but still
pretty cold.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 06:34:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06325
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 06:34:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA1300@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:41:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12994732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 12:47:20 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AGlJt07326 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:47:19 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6AGlJ728254
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:47:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710163040.0867C7FD0@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2C66BD.B98F37BA@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:54:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: LAX shutdown
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Betty said:
> > He is no longer retired, but wait, he is retired from SB isn't he?
>
> UCSB

<slap>

BB

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 06:50:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06346
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 06:50:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA149B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:58:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12996084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 13:03:53 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f171.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.171]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AH3rt10737 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:03:53 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 10:03:47 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 17:03:47 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 17:03:47.0981 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C1CF0BD0:01C22833]
Message-ID:  <F171byrjBrAqkQ3Cd6l00000286@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:03:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
>contest but this makes me remember - Necedah, Wisconsin again - when my ma
>paid the family of my best friend, who lived in town, to have me with them
>at the main meal, which was dinner, at noon.  I may have mentioned this in
>1995 or thereabouts.  Because we ate squirrel!  And canned venison.  Both
>delicious, both served with parsleyed potatoes.  Some sort of fish on
>Fridays.

My mother was (is still) a teacher and had to leave for work before me and
my siblings had to go to the bus stop so we'd be dropped every morning for
breakfast with another family (of nine children -- plus our five). They had
all sorts of weird food -- powdered milk from a box, and puffed cereal from
a big big bag. Needless to say, I didn't eat a thing. I have always been a
food snob. And a lactophobe, not to mention powdered lacto- products.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 06:52:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06353
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 06:52:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA14BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:59:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12996192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 13:05:25 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f9.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.9]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AH5Pt10936 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:05:25 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 10:05:19 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 17:05:19 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 17:05:19.0633 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[F8700810:01C22833]
Message-ID:  <F9UeA9Ftps5UgTrSW5o0000cc13@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:05:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
>No, no fridge.  They have these little insulated lunchboxes
>now that do a pretty good job of keeping stuff cool.  The
>go-gurt is frozen, so by lunch time it's melted, but still
>pretty cold.

I carry an insulated lunch bag and I am speaking from experience, yogurt is
not cold at lunchtime - uck! However, freezing it is the key -- are you
listening, Amy?

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 07:00:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06366
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 07:00:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA1582@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:07:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12996827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 13:13:14 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f58.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AHDEt12322 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:13:14 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 10:13:09 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 17:13:08 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 17:13:09.0051 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[103B88B0:01C22835]
Message-ID:  <F587zmmi4Ho8YZ4nESq0000ce2e@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:13:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Marie! (Cold Ginger Chicken)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>I think I confused the matter. There is My New Friend, and there is
>*er*.  That's it.
>
>For now.

Whiny Jerome!?

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 07:02:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06370
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 07:02:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010E22B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:15:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12996944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 13:15:30 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AHFUt12571 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:15:30 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust24.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.26]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003820781@mx0.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 13:15:29 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2C6BBA.C989A20@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:15:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      <sigh>
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

" She wrote this with the idea that both book sellers
and book lovers might find insite into the care of their
collections."
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 07:05:12 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06377
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 07:05:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0010E278@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:18:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12997119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 13:18:08 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe14.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.118]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AHI8t12930 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:18:08 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 10:18:02 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.71]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 17:18:02.0828 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[BF5658C0:01C22835]
Message-ID:  <OE14IAqdkl894nUTDd20000212a@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:19:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I carry an insulated lunch bag and I am speaking from experience, yogurt is
not cold at lunchtime - uck! However, freezing it is the key -- are you
listening, Amy?


>Marie

Hmmm? Yes, yes. I'm listening. Carl likes the Gogurts which I freeze anyway.
They make great popsicles. Yes, freezing is essential.

There is a fridge where I'll be taking him for the next couple of days with
the packed lunches, and we will go with the school lunches when school
starts. Carl is a good eater. I'm not sure how much school lunches cost.
I'll find out next week.

I usually go home for lunch or sometimes go out for lunch.

AS

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 07:07:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06384
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 07:07:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA160E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:14:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12997224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 13:20:24 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AHKOt13255 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:20:24 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust24.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.26]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005128857@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 13:20:17 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710145611.D8D737DB0@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2C5134.8E0F02FE@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2C6CD9.AB6CA7CB@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:20:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
 And, now that I think about it, there's no way anybody could have
> left for lunch and gotten back on time.

We had an hour for lunch, and Chicago had many schools, so I think that
most kids were within a mile of a school, and probably the majority were
closer than that. My first school was eight blocks away, but then they
built a new school in the other direction where I was transferred for
sixth grade up to high school, and it was only six blocks away.

alyce
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 07:10:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06396
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 07:10:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA165A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:18:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12997454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 13:23:38 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f41.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.41]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AHNct13769 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:23:38 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 10:23:32 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 17:23:32 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 17:23:32.0593 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[83E47E10:01C22836]
Message-ID:  <F416pT0giSftNtzsG0600007d2a@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:23:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>Whereas I never assumed that cake-baking was at related to motherhood.

I'm just now remembering that my sisters and I used to bake cakes all the
time -- from a boxed mix. But often. One or two times a week. My mother
bought cake mixes every time they were on sale and she had the right coupon
to double.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 07:11:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06403
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 07:11:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA1676@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:18:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12997537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 13:24:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AHOCt13913 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:24:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B26047F10; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:24:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710172408.B26047F10@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:24:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: LAX shutdown
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2C66BD.B98F37BA@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 10,
              2002  9:54:21 am"

Betty said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > Betty said:
> > > He is no longer retired, but wait, he is retired from SB isn't he?
> >
> > UCSB
>
> <slap>

Yourself or me?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 07:12:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06407
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 07:12:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA1697@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:19:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12997615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 13:25:21 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AHPKt14084 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:25:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8FC2E7F10; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:25:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710172516.8FC2E7F10@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:25:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Marie! (Cold Ginger Chicken)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F587zmmi4Ho8YZ4nESq0000ce2e@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 10, 2002  1:13: 8 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> >I think I confused the matter. There is My New Friend, and there is
> >*er*.  That's it.
> >
> >For now.
>
> Whiny Jerome!?

No.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 07:18:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06419
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 07:18:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA176D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:26:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12998082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 13:31:35 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe60.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.195]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AHVZt15083 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:31:35 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 10:31:30 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.71]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 17:31:30.0119 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A0852D70:01C22837]
Message-ID:  <OE60vNMjoyMEPA2sRln00008fb0@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:32:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>They had all sorts of weird food -- powdered milk from a box, and puffed
cereal from
a big big bag. Needless to say, I didn't eat a thing. I have always been a
food snob. And a lactophobe, not to mention powdered lacto- products.

>Marie
>  lounge_ascher@hotmail.com

Yuck, indeed. Yes, I am also a food snob. I am also a water snob (as far as
swimming goes) and a partner snob. I'd rather do without if I can't have
when I want. In each case I find it's worth the wait.

I don't like drinking milk, either; I never did.

I have trouble getting Carl to eat anything in the morning at home, but he
will eat at preschool. Breakfast is also available at primary school, so I
may try that for him; we'll see. Since his school will finish at 2:30 p.m.
each day I will need for him to stay in the afterschool program a bit on
most days. It's better than having to change venues, though. I heard that
it's really nice. I find out all the details when I go for registration next
week.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 07:20:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06426
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 07:20:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0010E408@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:33:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12998183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 13:33:51 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AHXpt15499 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:33:51 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6AHXop25815
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:33:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710172408.B26047F10@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2C71A4.C649E3CE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:40:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: LAX shutdown
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Betty said:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> > >
> > > Betty said:
> > > > He is no longer retired, but wait, he is retired from SB isn't he?
> > >
> > > UCSB
> >
> > <slap>
>
> Yourself or me?
>
> Karen

Duh. You, of course.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 07:21:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06433
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 07:21:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA1796@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:28:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12998195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 13:34:11 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AHYAt15644 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:34:10 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6AHYAp26407
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:34:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710172516.8FC2E7F10@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2C71B8.1E816F1A@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:41:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Marie! (Cold Ginger Chicken)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Marie Ascher said:
> > >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > >I think I confused the matter. There is My New Friend, and there is
> > >*er*.  That's it.
> > >
> > >For now.
> >
> > Whiny Jerome!?
>
> No.
Bitchy Bert?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 07:22:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06437
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 07:22:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA17AE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:29:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12998236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 13:35:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AHZ5t15853 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:35:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F368E7C9B; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:34:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710173456.F368E7C9B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:34:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: LAX shutdown
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2C71A4.C649E3CE@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 10,
              2002 10:40:52 am"

Betty said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > Betty said:
> > > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Betty said:
> > > > > He is no longer retired, but wait, he is retired from SB isn't he?
> > > >
> > > > UCSB
> > >
> > > <slap>
> >
> > Yourself or me?
> >
> > Karen
>
> Duh. You, of course.

I doubt he retired from Santa Barbara.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 07:23:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06441
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 07:23:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA17C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:30:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 12998303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 13:36:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AHa2t16033 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:36:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A099E7DD7; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 10:36:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710173600.A099E7DD7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:36:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Marie! (Cold Ginger Chicken)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2C71B8.1E816F1A@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 10,
              2002 10:41:12 am"

Betty said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > Marie Ascher said:
> > > >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > > >I think I confused the matter. There is My New Friend, and there is
> > > >*er*.  That's it.
> > > >
> > > >For now.
> > >
> > > Whiny Jerome!?
> >
> > No.
> Bitchy Bert?

No. He doesn't come across as someone who is grumpy in any
fashion. And those aren't his names, either.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 07:59:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06524
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 07:59:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA1B56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:06:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13001061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 14:11:50 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AIBot22350 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:11:50 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6AIBne21501 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          13:11:49 -0500 (CDT)
References: <3D2C0D1A.3815.6C686D@localhost>  <3D2C2251.12450.EA98D9@localhost>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <005201c2283d$73a05a40$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:13:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> ASL sign for I love you is a combination of the letters I, L and Y.
> With palm facing toward the person you're signing to, extend the
> thumb, the first finger and the little finger, folding the other two
> down.
>
> I = little finger only
> L = first finger and thumb
> Y = little finger and thumb
>
> BrP

At our request the undertaker placed
my sister's hand in this position, resting
on her arm.  It was a farewell to all the
deaf people she had interpreted for.
They filled one whole section of the
church.

                           - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 08:00:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06537
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 08:00:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA1B8C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:08:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13001209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 14:13:46 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AIDkt22646 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:13:46 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22334 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:13:45 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02
          14:13:45 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02 14:13:19 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D2C40F6.12132.1F77C9@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:13:10 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <005201c2283d$73a05a40$360332d1@0018079268>

That's very sweet.

BrP


>
> At our request the undertaker placed
> my sister's hand in this position, resting
> on her arm.  It was a farewell to all the
> deaf people she had interpreted for.
> They filled one whole section of the
> church.
>
>                            - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 08:06:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06545
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 08:06:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA1C16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:13:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13001516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 14:18:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AIIut23434 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:18:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 25F697F3E; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 11:18:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710181852.25F697F3E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:18:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2C40F6.12132.1F77C9@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              10, 2002  2:13:10 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> That's very sweet.

Once again, Paul's inside my head.

> >
> > At our request the undertaker placed
> > my sister's hand in this position, resting
> > on her arm.  It was a farewell to all the
> > deaf people she had interpreted for.
> > They filled one whole section of the
> > church.
> >
> >                            - D. M.
>

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 08:06:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06552
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 08:06:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010E8BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:19:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13001573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 14:19:10 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AIJ6t23490 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:19:06 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24235 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:17:44 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02
          14:17:44 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 10 Jul 02 14:17:30 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D2C41F3.25680.235302@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:17:23 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      going nomail
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <005201c2283d$73a05a40$360332d1@0018079268>

Off to Ottawa for a week or so.  Refrain from being interesting for
the duration.

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 08:31:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06589
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 08:31:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA1ECD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:39:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13003582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 14:44:48 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AIimt27750 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:44:48 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6AIilp26900
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:44:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2C0D1A.3815.6C686D@localhost>  <3D2C2251.12450.EA98D9@localhost>
            <005201c2283d$73a05a40$360332d1@0018079268>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2C8245.FDC679F5@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:51:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:
>
> > ASL sign for I love you is a combination of the letters I, L and Y.
> > With palm facing toward the person you're signing to, extend the
> > thumb, the first finger and the little finger, folding the other two
> > down.
> >
> > I = little finger only
> > L = first finger and thumb
> > Y = little finger and thumb
> >
> > BrP
>
> At our request the undertaker placed
> my sister's hand in this position, resting
> on her arm.  It was a farewell to all the
> deaf people she had interpreted for.
> They filled one whole section of the
> church.

This is very touching.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 09:18:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06661
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 09:18:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA23D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:25:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13007070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 15:31:12 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AJVCt03083 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:31:12 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc69 ([204.127.198.52]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020710193106.KKMN29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:31:06 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc69; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:31:03 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020710193106.KKMN29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:31:03 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

My dream lunch as a kid was bologna, provolone, mayo,
lettuce and tomato on wonder bread. I would have koolaid
for my drink and either oreos or twinkies for snack.

The reality was turkey, american and mustard on wheat
bread. For snack I had a couple saltines or fruit and oj
was in my thermos.
As for Master Carl's lunch, not knowing, you, him or
whether he has food allergies I'll answer with the
following menu...

He should have a ham and cheese with mustard on white
bread, a few cookies and a drink box.
lisa
> Tomorrow and Friday Master Carl's preschool is closed so I am taking him
> elsewhere while I teach tomorrow (actually it's over to the local Montessori
> School which is actually closed now, but the director is a friend of mine
> and she will be there doing some work with her own kids playing around;
> she's hoping that having Carl there will keep all of the kids a bit more
> occupied).
>
> Details notwithstanding, the question is this: I need to pack a lunch to
> send along with him. What should I prepare?
>
> AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 09:27:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06668
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 09:27:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA24C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:35:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13007742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 15:40:45 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AJejt04441 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:40:45 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc69 ([204.127.198.52]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020710194039.FBAF6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:40:39 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc69; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:40:38 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020710194039.FBAF6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:40:38 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

And MacDonalds isn't exactly new. I realize I'm one of
the younger members of the list but my mom gave both my
brother and I MacDonald's parties, in addition to home
parties, a bowling party and assorted other "events".

lisa
> alyce cresap wrote:
>
>
> > This brings me to a new subject: I understand that there are no longer
> > birthday parties where children play Pin the Tail, but that they are all
> > taken to MacDonald's or to an event, or else entertainment is hired.
> > When did all that begin? And why?
> >
>
>
> Oh, there are still those sorts of birthday parties.  I've
> promised Ana a sleepover party for her 7th birthday (last
> year she had no party aside from a family party since I
> deemed a visit to Disney to be Quite Enough).
>
> I haven't been to a party where entertainment is hired; that
> seems to be the custom among those a peg or two up the
> economic ladder from us.  The attraction to McDonalds, etc.
> parties is that busy working moms don't have to do any prep
> or clean-up for them.  Some of this type are very cute.
> Ana's been to the movies, bowling, a fancy dress-up tea
> party, the YMCA, gymnastics, and the zoo (that one is
> expensive) this year.
>
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita
>
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 09:36:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06689
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 09:36:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA25AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:44:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13008389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 15:49:28 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AJnSt05682 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:49:28 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc56 ([204.127.198.45]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020710194922.FKSD6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:49:22 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc56; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:49:21 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020710194922.FKSD6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:49:21 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Don't throw them out until your children get to ogle
them >one more time. I get very nostalgic about old lunch
boxes I >carried.

Yours survived? The cool thing to do when I was in school
was to toss your lunch box around the black top a bit so
it was dented, scratched and dinged. No parent was ever
thrilled about this, mine certainly wasn't but, as kids
if your lunch box wasn't beat up, you were a nerd.

lisa
certainly not implying that Marie was a nerd

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 10:12:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06741
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 10:12:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA29FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:19:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13011275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 16:25:15 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AKPFt11571 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:25:15 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6AKPEe06350 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          15:25:14 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <008501c22850$177910a0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:26:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Doing Your Business at the Bank
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Below is an actual letter sent to a bank in the United States.
The bank manager thought it amusing enough to have it
published in the New York Times, so I'm told by the
person who forwarded it to me.  The Subject Title  of
this email is my own.      - D. M.




Dear Sir:

I am writing to thank you for bouncing my check which
I endeavored to pay my plumber last month. By my calculations,
three nanoseconds must have elapsed between his presenting
the check and the arrival in my account of the funds needed to
honor it. I refer, of course, to the automatic monthly deposit
of my entire salary, an arrangement which, I admit, has only
been in place for eight years.

You are to be commended for seizing that brief window of
opportunity, and also for debiting my account $50 by way
of penalty for the inconvenience caused to your bank.
My thankfulness springs from the manner in which this incident
has caused me to rethink my errant financial ways I noticed that
whereas I personally attend to your telephone calls and letters,
when I try to contact you, I am confronted by the impersonal,
overcharging, prerecorded faceless entity which your bank has
become. From now on, I, like you, choose only to deal with a
flesh-and-blood person.My mortgage and loan repayments will,
herefore and hereafter, no longer be automatic, but will arive at
your bank, by check, addressed personally and confidentially to
an employee of your bank whom you must nominate and will be
aware that it is an offense under the Postal Act for any other
person to open such an envelope.

Please find attached an Application Contact Status which
I require your chosen employee to complete.  I am sorry
it runs to eight pages, but in order that I know as much
about him or her as your bank knows about me, there
is no alternative.  Please note that all copies of his or her
medical history much be countersigned by a Notary
Public, and the mandatory details of his/her financial
situation(income, debts,assets and liabilities) must be
accompanied by documented proof.

In due course, I will issue your employee with a PIN
number which he/she must quote in dealings with me.
 regret that it cannot be shorter than 28 digits but, again, I
have modeled it on the number of button presses required to
access my account balance on your phone bank service.
As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Let me level the playing field even further.

 Press buttons as follows:

 1. To make an appointment to see me.

 2. To query a missing payment.

 3. To transfer the call to my living room in case I am there.

 4. To transfer the call to my bedroom in case I am sleeping.

 5. To transfer the call to my toilet in case I am attending to
 nature.

 6. To transfer the call to my mobile phone if I am not at home.

 7. To leave a message on my computer, a password to access my
 computer is required. Password will be communicated at a later date to
the
 Authorized Contact.

 8. To return to the main menu and to listen to options 1 through 7.

 9. To make a general complaint or inquiry. The contact will then be
 put on hold, pending the attention of my automated answering service.

 While this may, on occasion, involve a lengthy wait, uplifting music
 will play for the duration of the call. Regrettably, but again
following
 your example, I must also levy an establishment fee to cover the
setting
 up of this new arrangement.

 May I wish you a happy, if ever-so-slightly less prosperous New
 Year?

 Your Humble Client

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 10:59:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06857
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 10:59:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA30CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:07:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13016474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 17:12:44 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ALCiD20032 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:12:44 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ1000BHXL70F@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:12:43 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F9UeA9Ftps5UgTrSW5o0000cc13@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D2CA2F2.5040506@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:11:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

>> From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
>> No, no fridge.  They have these little insulated lunchboxes
>> now that do a pretty good job of keeping stuff cool.  The
>> go-gurt is frozen, so by lunch time it's melted, but still
>> pretty cold.
>
>
> I carry an insulated lunch bag and I am speaking from experience, yogurt is
> not cold at lunchtime - uck! However, freezing it is the key -- are you
> listening, Amy?



Yes, freezing is the key.  And having a frozen juice box/bag
in there with it (Ana refuses to drink milk -- I never drink
it either).

BTW, Marie -- I bought my good running shoes today.


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 11:02:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06869
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 11:02:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA310E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:09:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13016650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 17:15:06 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ALF5D20317 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:15:05 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ100MDNXP5WY@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:15:05 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D2C210E.2B308507@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020710123445.00b64958@mail.panax.com>
Message-ID:  <3D2CA380.90304@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:13:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

clyde w. voigtlander wrote:

> At 07:56 AM 7/10/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
>
>> Natalie Maynor said:
>> > We would've been in *VERY* DS if caught trying to
>> > leave the school grounds at any time during the school day
>>
>> I've never understood the point of this.
>
>
> I suspect that it has to do with liability, i.e., during school hours
> (which depending on the school may or may not include lunchtime), students
> are supposed to be under the supervision of the school.


I think it has more to do with whether or not they'll come
back again and attendance (attendance is a big issue because
state funding is often contingent on how many bodies are in
school every day).

The magnet school I did field work at didn't place any
restrictions on coming and going.  It was in many ways the
exact opposite of Roosevelt.  The students could wander
about as they liked, but the curriculum was very
traditional.  At Roosevelt, the curriculum was very
non-traditional, but movement was very controlled.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 11:06:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06884
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 11:06:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0010FBEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:19:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13016982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 17:19:39 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ALJdD20895 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:19:39 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ1000JWXWR0F@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:19:39 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020710163432.3B0417F5B@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2CA492.4040205@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:18:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Betty said:
>
>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>
>>>Rita Chapman said:
>>>
>>>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Rita Chapman said:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>BTW, officially, he's attached to a group in Texas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Will he visit?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sure.  He's been down twice to supervise system upgrades.
>>>>
>>>To Dallas? If he comes a little further south, let me know.:)
>>>
>>You want to meet RNH?  Not me.
>>
>
> I'd rather see Rita, it's true. But if he came to Austin, I'd go out
> to dinner with him.
>


I'll let him know!  He'd probably enjoy having company for
dinner, that's for sure.

He was very sweet today and bought me my running shoes with
the money he made giving sailing lessons last weekend.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 11:14:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06894
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 11:14:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3214@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:21:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13017388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 17:27:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ALR8D21781 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:27:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 41B247D47; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 14:27:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710212706.41B247D47@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:27:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2CA492.4040205@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 10,
              2002  4:18:10 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> > I'd rather see Rita, it's true. But if he came to Austin, I'd go out
> > to dinner with him.
>
> I'll let him know!  He'd probably enjoy having company for
> dinner, that's for sure.

Well, I wouldn't drive to Dallas to have dinner with him--that's 3.5
hours! But sure, if were here. Why not?!

> He was very sweet today and bought me my running shoes with
> the money he made giving sailing lessons last weekend.

This is sweet.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 11:16:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06906
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 11:16:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0010FCA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:29:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13017520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 17:29:16 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ALTFD22032 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:29:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C7B737D43; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 14:29:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020710212911.C7B737D43@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:29:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Okay, fellow babies!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I have an interview at *pp* Friday morning to discuss what kind of
position they might create for me. Woohoo!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 11:21:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06915
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 11:21:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3292@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:29:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13017839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 17:34:31 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ALYVD22752 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:34:31 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ1000SXYLHGW@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:34:30 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020709212908.838A97CDE@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2B5C57.152D505C@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D2CA80D.7020802@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:33:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> Karen Kay wrote:
>
>>Rita Chapman said:
>>
>>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Rita Chapman said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>BTW, officially, he's attached to a group in Texas.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Will he visit?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Sure.  He's been down twice to supervise system upgrades.
>>>
>>To Dallas? If he comes a little further south, let me know.:)
>>
>
> You want to meet RNH?  Not me.
>

Meanie.  You'll make him cry.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 11:52:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06987
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 11:52:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3540@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:59:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13020189 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 18:04:56 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AM4uD27367 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:04:56 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust161.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.163]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003827611@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 18:01:53 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710212911.C7B737D43@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2CAEBD.F0F8E102@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:01:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Okay, fellow babies!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> I have an interview at *pp* Friday morning to discuss what kind of
> position they might create for me. Woohoo!

OK. I will do my usual chants, etc.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 11:55:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06992
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 11:55:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0010FFD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:08:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13019627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 18:08:41 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ALweD26475 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:58:40 -0400
Received: from menudo.vt.com (menudo.vt.com [204.117.188.234]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ALwcZ13858 for
          <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:58:38 -0400
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230]) by
          menudo.vt.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01787 for
          <steph@words-l.org>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:44:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mx1.mail.yahoo.com ([65.216.119.67]) by taco.vt.com
          (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA14884 for <steph@words-l.org>; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 16:46:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117)
Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Message-ID:  <51uofh6ok.7j35jw0j4g2ci4@mx1.mail.yahoo.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:54:14 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: candyflynn@THEDOGHOUSEMAIL.COM
Subject:      a easy no brainer _ open me 761842935
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

<html>
<head>
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
</head>

<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" vlink="#0000FF" alink="#0000FF">
<table width=461 height=170 cellspacing=1 border=1 align="center">
  <tbody>
  <tr>
    <td colspan=2 height="155">
      <p align=center><font color=#000000 size=5><strong><font face=Tahoma color=#008000><font color=#000000><small><b><font size="2" color="#666666"><br>
        </font><font face=Tahoma color=#008000><font face=Tahoma color=#008000><font color=#000000><font size="2" face="Verdana, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b><font color="#666666">Would
        you like</font></b></font></font></font></font><font size="2" color="#666666">
        to g</font><font size="2" color="#666666">et </font><font size="2"> <font color="#FF0000">&lt;S
        P A M&gt;</font> <font color="#666666">out of your life for Good?</font></font></b></small></font></font></strong></font></p>
      <p align=center> <font face=Tahoma color=#008000><font face=Tahoma color=#008000><font color=#000000><font size="2" face="Verdana, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b><font color="#666666">Would
        you like to take back CONTROL of your inbox<br>
        and have TOTAL PRIVACY!</font></b></font></font></font></font><font color=#000000><br>
        </font></p>
      <p align=center><font face=Tahoma color=#008000><font color=#000000><big><big><strong><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="http://www.playday.net">There
        is no cost to learn more-C l i c k</a></font></strong></big></big></font></font></p>
      <p align=center><font color="#000000" size="1" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">This
        is a revolutionary new concept that Guarantees your inbox will be Private
        and Secure.</font></p>
      <p align=center><font color="#000000" size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
        &copy; 2002 Total-E-Private&#153;</font><font color="#000000" size="1"></font><font color="#000000" size="1"><br>
        <br>
        </font></p>
      </td>
  </tr>
</table>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<table width="324" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" height="12" align="center">
  <tr>
    <td height="16">
      <div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#003399" size="1">
        <font color="#0000FF"><a href="#listlink2"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Unsubscribe
        Instructions</font></a></font></font></font></div>
    </td>
  </tr>
</table>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style='font-size:7.5pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Verdana;color:black'><a name="listlink2"></a></span></p>
<table width="536" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="15" height="456" align="center">
  <tr>
    <td height="372" valign="top">
      <div align="left"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Verdana;color:black'><font color="#999999">This message is a commercial
        advertisement. It is in full compliance with all federal and state laws
        regarding email advertising, including the California Business and Professions
        Code. We have provided &quot;opt out&quot; email contact so you can request
        to be taken off our mailing list. In addition we have placed &quot;Adv:&quot;
        in the subject line to provide you with notification in advance that this
        is a commercial advertisement. We do not wish to send our advertising
        to anyone who does not wish to receive it. </font></span><font color="#999999"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Verdana'>If you would rather not receive any further information from
        us, please <a href="http://195.149.159.101/remove/?camp=1635b-001">CLICK</a>
        to be taken off our list. In this way you can &quot;opt-out&quot; from
        the list your email address was obtained from, whether it was &quot;opt-in&quot;
        or otherwise. Please allow 5-10 business days for your email address to
        be&nbsp;processed and taken off&nbsp;all lists in our control. Meanwhile,
        delete any duplicate emails that you may receive and rest assured that
        your request will be honored. If you have previously requested to be taken
        off this list and are still receiving this advertisement, </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana'>
        you may call us at 1-(888) 817-9902, or write to: Abuse Control Center,
        7657 Winnetka Ave., Suite 245, Canoga Park, CA 91306</span></font></div>
    </td>
  </tr>
</table>
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
    <blockquote>
      <blockquote>
        <blockquote>
          <blockquote>
            <p>&nbsp;</p>
          </blockquote>
        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
    </blockquote>
  </blockquote>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style='font-family:
"Arial Unicode MS"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</body>
</html>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 12:12:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07025
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 12:12:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001100FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:25:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13021446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 18:25:10 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AMPAD30460 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:25:10 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020710222504.SIWP29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:25:04 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGCEKIFPAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:27:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F106R4ZDgC81TbdkSmL000000ee@hotmail.com>

> Last year Bruce bought me an Italian rum cake for my birthday. I
> told him he
> could get me that same cake every year. Alas! the bakery has since closed.

La Fiorentina, supplier of SnowBash's tiramisu, also makes a most excellent,
well, everything. Their rum cake is so good, as are their cannolis, and all
those other Italian pastries whose names I don't know.

I try not to go there at any time other than for SnowBash.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 12:18:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07047
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 12:18:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011017E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:31:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13022002 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 18:31:44 -0400
Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AMViD31492 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:31:44 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.161] ([208.138.31.74]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with
          ESMTP id <20020710212956.YYXF13091.mail@[208.138.31.74]> for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:29:56 -0400
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B9521FF2.EAA7%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:31:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Jewel Cases
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Does anybody know where (preferably online, obviously
--
Cheers,
Peter
) I can get replacement double-CD (and even triple-) jewel cases? Singles
are a dime a dozen, but I've never seen doubles anywhere and some of mine
are broken.

Any clues?

--
Regards,
Peter Levy

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 12:22:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07054
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 12:22:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3780@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:30:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13022192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 18:35:38 -0400
Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AMZcD31924 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:35:38 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.161] ([208.138.31.74]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with
          ESMTP id <20020710213353.ZAHO13091.mail@[208.138.31.74]> for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:33:53 -0400
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B95220E9.EAAA%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:35:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Jewel Cases - 2nd attempt
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Let me try this without the errant .sig:

Does anybody know where (preferably online, obviously) I can get replacement
double-CD (and even triple-) jewel cases? Singles are a dime a dozen, but
I've never seen doubles anywhere and some of mine are broken.

Any clues?

--
Regards,
Peter Levy

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 12:35:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07075
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 12:35:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3825@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:43:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13022289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 18:48:41 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f100.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.100]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AMcfD32321 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:38:41 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 15:38:35 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 22:38:35 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 22:38:35.0773 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[8710DAD0:01C22862]
Message-ID:  <F100UVYKkpLTkUD5euw000085e4@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:38:35 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: casualty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Steph:

>Girrrl, that was a temporary aberration.  Do you want to come up
>next weekend and see the improvements?  I can offer a real bed
>to sleep on too this time.

No, no. I loved sleeping in the upstairs room next to the patio
(balcony ?). My own private aerie. I liked the set-up.

>Although, however, one of my new colleagues lives in Antwerp and
>he keeps inviting me down, so I may come down.

Daily commute?

>I don't know what we're going to do yet, that's why I was letting
>it hang.

No sweat. I never seem to be able to get into the trips down
Memory Lane that are regular features of Words-L and was happy
to see something else. Glad you came off somewhat unscathed.

Stay dry,
-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 12:38:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07082
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 12:38:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3849@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:45:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13022880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 18:50:54 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AMosD01562 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:50:54 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6AMor828251
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:50:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709212908.838A97CDE@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2B5C57.152D505C@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D2CA80D.7020802@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2CBBF3.BD5261BE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:57:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> Betty wrote:
>
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> >>Rita Chapman said:
> >>
> >>>Karen Kay wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Rita Chapman said:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>BTW, officially, he's attached to a group in Texas.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>Will he visit?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Sure.  He's been down twice to supervise system upgrades.
> >>>
> >>To Dallas? If he comes a little further south, let me know.:)
> >>
> >
> > You want to meet RNH?  Not me.
> >
>
> Meanie.  You'll make him cry.

He'll get over it.  Do you pack his lunch, too?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 12:38:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07089
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 12:38:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3857@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:45:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13022373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 18:51:26 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f9.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.9]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AMfQD32610 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:41:26 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          10 Jul 2002 15:41:20 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 22:41:20 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 22:41:20.0552 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[E9482280:01C22862]
Message-ID:  <F99o3gm1gyjYwkaCi6a00009a92@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:41:20 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Now playing ...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

... new hand-made disc with Sense Field, Stereophonics, Zero 7,
Ivy, Ash, ColdPlay, Travis, Doves ... I've been listening to it
all afternoon.

PS for Ann: This is not a recommendation to run out and buy these
CDs. Doubt I could listen to a complete album by any of them.




_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 12:46:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07109
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 12:46:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA38A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:53:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13023267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 18:58:53 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6AMwrD02548 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:58:53 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6AMwp002585 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:58:51 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207101758300.594-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:58:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F99o3gm1gyjYwkaCi6a00009a92@hotmail.com>

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Rashmi Murthy wrote:

> PS for Ann: This is not a recommendation to run out and buy these
> CDs. Doubt I could listen to a complete album by any of them.

Anybody else like Radiohead?

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 13:09:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07215
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 13:09:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA39BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:17:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13024239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 19:22:41 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ANMfD04924 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:22:41 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6ANMeG05737
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:22:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207101758300.594-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2CC366.2595C4BD@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:29:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:
>
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Rashmi Murthy wrote:
>
> > PS for Ann: This is not a recommendation to run out and buy these
> > CDs. Doubt I could listen to a complete album by any of them.
>
> Anybody else like Radiohead?

I want to know what you had for lunch and who packed it?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 13:13:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07222
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 13:13:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA39CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:20:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13024286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 19:26:01 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ANQ1D05179 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:26:01 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws131-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.131]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6ANPwq01432
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:25:59 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020710212911.C7B737D43@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2CC284.9DB1AD58@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:25:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Okay, fellow babies!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> I have an interview at *pp* Friday morning to discuss what kind of
> position they might create for me. Woohoo!

Excellent.  We have only one day to plan your wardrobe.  I recommend the
dark brown sandals.  What are our choices for the rest of the attire?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 13:24:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07247
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 13:24:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3A2B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:31:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13024680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 19:37:17 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ANbHD06338 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:37:17 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020710233711.DJDP24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:37:11 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020710161659.01db1c20@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:34:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Jewel Cases
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B95220E9.EAAA%peterlevy@email.com>

Peter Levy writes,

>Does anybody know where (preferably online, obviously) I can get replacement
>double-CD (and even triple-) jewel cases?

These places have doubles, but I didn't see triples on a quick glance:

<http://www.outpost.com/>
<http://www.officemax.com/> (likely also Staples, Office Depot)
<http://www.ebay.com/>

I Googled and found a recommendation for American Digital:

<http://www.american-digital.com/prodsite/category.asp?c=36&name=CDStorage>

Then, this was one of the top advertiser links at Google, and they have
triples, quads, and 6's:

<http://www.sleevetown.com/>

Googling on "American Digital" and "Sleeve City" (sleevetown.com's Real
Name) gets a number of resource listings, including:

<http://www.openhere.com/tech1/hardware/storage/optical/media/>
<http://members.aol.com/kirka/LINKSeMULE.html>
and <http://www.yoyo-tricks.com/letstrade2.html>, which has these observations:

>American Digital
>This place seems to be the best deal going. Their prices are very low and
>they have a great selection.
>
>C4 Component
>These guys have the lowest prices but not quite as good of a selection.
>
>CDR Outlet
>Great prices and selection. Just slightly higher priced than American Digital.
>
>Sleeve City
>Great selection, but higher prices than all the others.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 13:27:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07254
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 13:27:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3A50@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:34:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13024793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 19:39:49 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ANdnD06572 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:39:49 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id QAA12091 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          16:39:48 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207101634390.7049-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:39:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Costa Rica
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2CC284.9DB1AD58@maynor.net>

I'm planning a trip to Costa Rica in August and am soliciting suggestions
from anyone here with any opinions on the subject.  Almost everyone I've
mentioned it to knows someone who has been to Costa Rica and LOVED it.
that's fine, but no one can tell me where their friends, father-in-laws,
or brother went precisely.

To give you some idea of what I'm looking for, I'll tell you that I've
traveled in Mexico, and South America, but never Central America so it's
all new to me.  I have only 7 to 10 days for the whole trip.  And, I'm
looking for beaches (yes, I know it's the "green season") and relaxation.

Suggestions?

 Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 13:29:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07261
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 13:29:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00110556@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:42:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13024981 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 19:42:14 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ANgED07000 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:42:14 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6ANgDe23904 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          18:42:13 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020710212911.C7B737D43@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <016701c2286b$9be6c880$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:43:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Okay, fellow babies!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> I have an interview at *pp* Friday morning to discuss what kind of
> position they might create for me. Woohoo!
>
> Karen

Sounds to me like it would
be a squatting position.

           - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 14:18:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07320
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 14:18:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00110830@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:30:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13027354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 20:30:46 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B0UjD12363 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:30:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C5A847E99; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 17:30:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711003043.C5A847E99@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:30:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Okay, fellow babies!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2CAEBD.F0F8E102@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 10,
              2002  6: 1:33 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > I have an interview at *pp* Friday morning to discuss what kind of
> > position they might create for me. Woohoo!
>
> OK. I will do my usual chants, etc.

:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 14:20:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07327
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 14:20:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00110850@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:33:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13027431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 20:33:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B0XXD12560 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:33:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7EA937F3E; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 17:33:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711003329.7EA937F3E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:33:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Okay, fellow babies!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2CC284.9DB1AD58@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 10,
              2002  6:25:56 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I have an interview at *pp* Friday morning to discuss what kind of
> > position they might create for me. Woohoo!
>
> Excellent.  We have only one day to plan your wardrobe.  I recommend the
> dark brown sandals.  What are our choices for the rest of the attire?

I have a call into my friend Lydia to help me choose.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 14:23:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07334
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 14:23:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3D29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:30:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13027486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 20:35:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B0ZrD12694 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:35:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C08D67F3E; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 17:35:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711003552.C08D67F3E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:35:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Costa Rica
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207101634390.7049-100000@idiom.com> from Sharon
              Ziperovich at "Jul 10, 2002  4:39:48 pm"

Sharon Ziperovich said:
> I'm planning a trip to Costa Rica in August and am soliciting suggestions
> from anyone here with any opinions on the subject.  Almost everyone I've
> mentioned it to knows someone who has been to Costa Rica and LOVED it.
> that's fine, but no one can tell me where their friends, father-in-laws,
> or brother went precisely.

The jungle!

> I have only 7 to 10 days for the whole trip.  And, I'm
> looking for beaches (yes, I know it's the "green season") and relaxation.
>
> Suggestions?

All I know is that Costa Ricans dress extremely well, sorry. I used to
teach with a woman from there, and I talked to a number of students
who went on the exchange program.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 14:23:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07341
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 14:23:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3D2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:30:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13027497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 20:36:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B0aID12727 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:36:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B45527F8F; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 17:36:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711003617.B45527F8F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:36:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Okay, fellow babies!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <016701c2286b$9be6c880$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 10, 2002  6:43:35 pm"

Doris Markland said:
> > I have an interview at *pp* Friday morning to discuss what kind of
> > position they might create for me. Woohoo!
> >
> > Karen
>
> Sounds to me like it would
> be a squatting position.

I certainly hope not.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 14:53:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07395
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 14:53:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3E23@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:00:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13027984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 21:05:50 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B0toD14007 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:55:50 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6B0toUh016721 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:55:50 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207102048410.28798-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:55:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      simplifying?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I am in the process of moving all files off my at-home desktop machine and
onto my Titanium and 250-zips. I've got web access on it. Now if I can
just figure out CDRWs - I look forward to getting rid of a bunch of stuff.

I will sell my iMaC (not the original, but a 2nd generation model, and I
will soon have a G3 laptop for sale also - and many peripherals. Or I
might donate them to a worthy cause.

Perhaps I had better go to a MacClique meeting soon - the meetings are in
or near Oak Ridge - that's the only reason I have not gone sooner.

I love new toys - I got this one last Fall but have had no time for it
until very recently.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 14:54:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07402
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 14:54:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3E27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:01:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13028383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 21:07:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B17DD15015 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:07:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4B1137FF3; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 18:07:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711010712.4B1137FF3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:07:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: simplifying?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207102048410.28798-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 10, 2002  8:55:50 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> I am in the process of moving all files off my at-home desktop machine and
> onto my Titanium and 250-zips. I've got web access on it. Now if I can
> just figure out CDRWs - I look forward to getting rid of a bunch of stuff.

What's to figure out? The only annoying thing is that you really have
to NOT have any programs active when you do it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 15:00:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07414
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 15:00:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3E5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:07:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13028319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 21:13:01 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B130D14795 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:03:00 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F656499 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:02:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6B12xs73576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:02:59
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D2B5079.D4074D71@valstar.net>
            <023901c227dd$d6c9cbc0$360332d1@0018079268>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020710200259.C73335@pobox.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:02:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: [Fwd: Google "Mirror" Site]
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <023901c227dd$d6c9cbc0$360332d1@0018079268>; from
              dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM on Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 01:48:45AM -0500

> > Someone definitely has too much time on their hands.

Hacks like this are always done when there is too *little* time
and too much code to write.

> This is way weird.  This site, on the
> little pulldown screen, lists every
> inquiry I've ever made from Google.

Probably your browser's feature.

So, how do I hyphenate "8-year-old"?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 15:00:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07418
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 15:00:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3E5E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:07:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13028562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 21:13:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B1D1D15469 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:13:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DFC5E7FFC; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 18:12:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711011257.DFC5E7FFC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:12:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      That other job
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I think I mentioned that I had been up for a job at Motorola--that
didn't come through because they hired someone who had worked for them
before.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 15:28:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07450
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 15:28:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3F48@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:36:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13029446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 21:41:34 -0400
Received: from mail.infochan.com (mail.infochan.com [208.52.68.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B1fWD17829 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:41:32 -0400
Received: from [192.168.254.13] ([208.138.22.79]) by mail.infochan.com
          (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with
          ESMTP id com for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          20:41:25 -0500
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B9524C7B.EAD1%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:41:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Jewel Cases
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020710161659.01db1c20@mail.istori.com>

Brilliant stuff - going out to dinner but will check these out later -
thanks a bunch Pete.

--
Cheers,
Peter



On 10/7/2002 6:34 PM, Peter Kaminski wrote:

>> Does anybody know where (preferably online, obviously) I can get replacement
>> double-CD (and even triple-) jewel cases?
>
> These places have doubles, but I didn't see triples on a quick glance:
>
> <http://www.outpost.com/>
> <http://www.officemax.com/> (likely also Staples, Office Depot)
> <http://www.ebay.com/>
>
> I Googled and found a recommendation for American Digital:
>
> <http://www.american-digital.com/prodsite/category.asp?c=36&name=CDStorage>
>
> Then, this was one of the top advertiser links at Google, and they have
> triples, quads, and 6's:
>
> <http://www.sleevetown.com/>
>
> Googling on "American Digital" and "Sleeve City" (sleevetown.com's Real
> Name) gets a number of resource listings, including:
>
> <http://www.openhere.com/tech1/hardware/storage/optical/media/>
> <http://members.aol.com/kirka/LINKSeMULE.html>
> and <http://www.yoyo-tricks.com/letstrade2.html>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 15:33:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07462
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 15:33:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3F7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:40:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13029618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 21:46:13 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B1kDD18337 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:46:13 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ2004NFA8QLP@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:46:03 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020709212908.838A97CDE@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2B5C57.152D505C@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D2CA80D.7020802@swbell.net>
            <3D2CBBF3.BD5261BE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D2CE301.1030300@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:44:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>>Betty wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Rita Chapman said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Rita Chapman said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BTW, officially, he's attached to a group in Texas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Will he visit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Sure.  He's been down twice to supervise system upgrades.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>To Dallas? If he comes a little further south, let me know.:)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>You want to meet RNH?  Not me.
>>>
>>>
>>Meanie.  You'll make him cry.
>>
>
> He'll get over it.  Do you pack his lunch, too?
>


        No.  He's a big boy and can pack his own lunch if he wants it.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 15:35:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07469
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 15:35:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA3FA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:42:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13029770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 21:48:14 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B1mED18696 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:48:14 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ2000FOACDGW@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:48:14 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020710212706.41B247D47@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2CE384.6090005@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:46:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>>I'd rather see Rita, it's true. But if he came to Austin, I'd go out
>>>to dinner with him.
>>>
>>I'll let him know!  He'd probably enjoy having company for
>>dinner, that's for sure.
>>
>
> Well, I wouldn't drive to Dallas to have dinner with him--that's 3.5
> hours! But sure, if were here. Why not?!
>


I dunno.  Ask Betty what she has against him.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 15:58:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07490
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 15:58:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA4098@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:05:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13030198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 22:10:56 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B20uD19791 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:00:56 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6B20tUh032681 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:00:55 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207102200070.25770-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:00:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: simplifying?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711010712.4B1137FF3@yellow.rahul.net>

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>What's to figure out? The only annoying thing is that you really have
>to NOT have any programs active when you do it.

I am still setting up everything - I have not used Toast yet, etc. So - I
dunno what's to figure out yet!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 16:01:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07503
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 16:01:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00110CDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:14:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13030701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 22:14:33 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B2EWD20824 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:14:32 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6B2EViR006640 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:14:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020710212706.41B247D47@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020710191207.00a50670@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:14:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2CE384.6090005@swbell.net>

At 08:46 PM 7/10/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Karen Kay wrote:
>
>>Rita Chapman said:
>>
>>>>I'd rather see Rita, it's true. But if he came to Austin, I'd go out
>>>>to dinner with him.
>>>I'll let him know!  He'd probably enjoy having company for
>>>dinner, that's for sure.
>>
>>Well, I wouldn't drive to Dallas to have dinner with him--that's 3.5
>>hours! But sure, if were here. Why not?!
>
>
>I dunno.  Ask Betty what she has against him.

I just would not be interested in meeting someone's husband that I don't
know. What would we talk about? I guess I could ask him if he would know
what to put in Ana's lunch.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 16:10:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07558
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 16:10:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA4122@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:17:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13031002 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 22:23:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B2NBD21662 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:23:11 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 00C8D7DA7; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 19:23:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711022310.00C8D7DA7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:23:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020710191207.00a50670@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 10, 2002  7:14:31 pm"

Betty said:
> I just would not be interested in meeting someone's husband that I don't
> know. What would we talk about? I guess I could ask him if he would know
> what to put in Ana's lunch.

We'd talk about Rita and his boat and living in Missouri and his job
and being unemployed and... and... LOTS OF STUFF!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 16:20:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07579
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 16:20:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00110DFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:32:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13031428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 22:32:51 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B2WpD22856 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:32:51 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6B2Wng13841 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:32:49 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102127290.13613-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:32:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2CC366.2595C4BD@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

> I want to know what you had for lunch and who packed it?

That's easy!  Allan packed me a sandwich au jambon, which I had with
cherry tomatoes from our garden and a split of Veuve Cliquot.

NOT

I had a small thermos of Straus Family Dairy wholefat yoghurt with Del
Monte canned pineapple chunks, plus a Mrs. Fields bittersweet chocolate
chip with walnuts cookie.

Pretty sweet, all of it, and I thought I don't think we've had any
diabetics in the family . . .

Good though.

Packed by myself of course.

And you?

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 16:27:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07587
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 16:27:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA4205@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:35:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13031671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 22:40:38 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B2ebD23512 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:40:37 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6B2eaO14130 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:40:36 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102136280.13613-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:40:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020710191207.00a50670@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

> I just would not be interested in meeting someone's husband that I don't
> know. What would we talk about? I guess I could ask him if he would know
> what to put in Ana's lunch.

You could get to know each other!  You could pretend you were a close
relative of his wife and he was just -planning- to marry her, and you
would be screening him.

This would require obnoxious and embarrassing behavior I suppose.
However, maybe he would be the charming type and just know how to do it
(because if he agreed to meet you at all, he would share the
conversational responsibility).

Hey I'm getting into this, send me yer husbands, assuming they would pay
for the lunch . . .

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 16:31:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07602
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 16:31:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA424E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:38:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13031740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 22:44:00 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B2i0D23709 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:44:00 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust54.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.56]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003833474@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 22:43:03 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102136280.13613-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2CF09A.BAC090B6@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:42:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

 On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
>
> I just would not be interested in meeting someone's husband that I don't
> know. What would we talk about?

I guess I should not have gone to dinner with Tony when he came here
then? I should just have said I'm not interested in meeting someone's
husband that I don't know?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 16:34:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07606
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 16:34:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA4293@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:41:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13031943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 22:47:12 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B2lBD24066 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:47:11 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6B2lAC14331 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:47:10 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102142160.14169-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:47:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2C2251.12450.EA98D9@localhost>

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

> With palm facing toward the person you're signing to, extend the
> thumb, the first finger and the little finger, folding the other two
> down.
>
> I = little finger only
> L = first finger and thumb
> Y = little finger and thumb

I'm so glad I asked!  Because I think I've been seeing people giving this
sign on tv, and I've seen it as little finger and index finger, and
wondered what this meant, as I always have.

Some time in my teens I was told that this meant "bullshit."  But I never
believed that.  Then some time much later in my teams somebody told me it
meant a finger for the vagina and a finger for the anal sphincter (ha ha I
went to college).

And I -might- have believed that except that I think I saw it in an
Italian movie and at some point I was told (I'm vague on this) that it was
the sign of the devil, or warding off the devil, or something old and
definitely not "bullshit."

I wonder if anybody can help me here.  I'm pretty sure that I
misinterpreted the 'love' sign on tv, but what about the other sign?

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 16:36:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07613
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 16:36:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00110EE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:48:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13032006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 22:48:55 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B2mtD24125 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:48:55 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6B2mrw14397 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:48:53 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102147340.14169-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:48:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2CF09A.BAC090B6@valstar.net>

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

> I guess I should not have gone to dinner with Tony when he came here
> then? I should just have said I'm not interested in meeting someone's
> husband that I don't know?

You mean Tony Harminc?

In any case, what did you talk about?

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 16:43:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07629
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 16:43:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA456E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:50:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13032495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 22:55:52 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B2tpD24766 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:55:52 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6B2to314707 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:55:50 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102153350.14552-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:55:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Dumb kids
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2B1282.10304@swbell.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:

> inclusion.  It's an alright class.  It's just that I've
> lived it with Ana (who is officially learning disabled/Other
> Health Impaired -- in other words, one of the "slow" kids
> even though her IQ is in the gifted range).

What puts her in the learning disabled/other health impaired category?

(OK if you don't mind my asking and my guessing, let me guess - dyslexic?)

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 16:50:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07641
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 16:50:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA4CDD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:57:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13034434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 23:02:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B32iD26460 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:02:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6F75A7F67; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 20:02:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711030243.6F75A7F67@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:02:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102142160.14169-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 10, 2002  9:47:10 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:
>
> > With palm facing toward the person you're signing to, extend the
> > thumb, the first finger and the little finger, folding the other two
> > down.
> >
> > I = little finger only
> > L = first finger and thumb
> > Y = little finger and thumb
>
> I'm so glad I asked!  Because I think I've been seeing people giving this
> sign on tv, and I've seen it as little finger and index finger, and
> wondered what this meant, as I always have.

LOL. I always thought it was Hawaiian...

> And I -might- have believed that except that I think I saw it in an
> Italian movie and at some point I was told (I'm vague on this) that it was
> the sign of the devil, or warding off the devil, or something old and
> definitely not "bullshit."

Horns. Warding off the evil eye.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 16:50:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07648
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 16:50:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA4D42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:57:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13034581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 23:03:04 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B333D26559 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:03:03 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6B332iR010330 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:03:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D2CC366.2595C4BD@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020710200122.00a4d750@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:03:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102127290.13613-100000@og1.olagrande.net >

At 09:32 PM 7/10/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
>
> > I want to know what you had for lunch and who packed it?
>
>That's easy!  Allan packed me a sandwich au jambon, which I had with
>cherry tomatoes from our garden and a split of Veuve Cliquot.
>
>NOT
>
>I had a small thermos of Straus Family Dairy wholefat yoghurt with Del
>Monte canned pineapple chunks, plus a Mrs. Fields bittersweet chocolate
>chip with walnuts cookie.
>
>Pretty sweet, all of it, and I thought I don't think we've had any
>diabetics in the family . . .
>
>Good though.
>
>Packed by myself of course.
>
>And you?

I slapped a piece of dead cow,  left over from the night before's dinner,
between two pieces of home made bread  smeared  with  some mayo.  Plums
from our tree.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 16:51:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07652
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 16:51:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA4EA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:58:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13035064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 23:04:10 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B34AD26866 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:04:10 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6B349iR019507 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:04:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020710191207.00a50670@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020710200346.00a4a760@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:04:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102136280.13613-100000@og1.olagrande.net >

At 09:40 PM 7/10/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
>
> > I just would not be interested in meeting someone's husband that I don't
> > know. What would we talk about? I guess I could ask him if he would know
> > what to put in Ana's lunch.
>
>You could get to know each other!  You could pretend you were a close
>relative of his wife and he was just -planning- to marry her, and you
>would be screening him.
>
>This would require obnoxious and embarrassing behavior I suppose.
>However, maybe he would be the charming type and just know how to do it
>(because if he agreed to meet you at all, he would share the
>conversational responsibility).
>
>Hey I'm getting into this, send me yer husbands, assuming they would pay
>for the lunch . . .

I'm too shy and retiring.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 16:52:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07656
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 16:52:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00111153@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:05:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13035574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 23:05:12 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B35CD27118 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:05:12 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6B35BiR023508 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:05:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102136280.13613-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020710200431.00a369f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:05:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2CF09A.BAC090B6@valstar.net>

At 10:42 PM 7/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>  On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
> >
> > I just would not be interested in meeting someone's husband that I don't
> > know. What would we talk about?
>
>I guess I should not have gone to dinner with Tony when he came here
>then? I should just have said I'm not interested in meeting someone's
>husband that I don't know?

Different.  Tony is a member of the list and you've "talked" with him.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 16:54:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07660
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 16:54:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA51F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:02:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13036386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 23:07:36 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B37aD27586 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:07:36 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6B37YG15152 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:07:34 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102204570.15093-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:07:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020710200122.00a4d750@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

> I slapped a piece of dead cow,  left over from the night before's dinner,
> between two pieces of home made bread  smeared  with  some mayo.  Plums
> from our tree.

Hey, you win!

Let me know what you'll pack tomorrow.  (I'm having lunch with nobody's
husband, a librarian friend, and we'll pick something up).

I always am interested when I hear on the radio what they're serving in
the public schools.  When do I hear that on the radio?  I never listen to
the radio except in the car, so it must be on rainy mornings when I'm
driven to the bus stop.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 16:58:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07667
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 16:58:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA52A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:05:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13036894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 23:10:52 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B3AqD28049 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:10:52 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6B3ApiR015099 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:10:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020710200122.00a4d750@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020710200956.00a47c30@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:10:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102204570.15093-100000@og1.olagrande.net >

At 10:07 PM 7/10/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
>
> > I slapped a piece of dead cow,  left over from the night before's dinner,
> > between two pieces of home made bread  smeared  with  some mayo.  Plums
> > from our tree.
>
>Hey, you win!
>
>Let me know what you'll pack tomorrow.  (I'm having lunch with nobody's
>husband, a librarian friend, and we'll pick something up).
>
>I always am interested when I hear on the radio what they're serving in
>the public schools.  When do I hear that on the radio?  I never listen to
>the radio except in the car, so it must be on rainy mornings when I'm
>driven to the bus stop.

I think I'll take some left over pasta salad and more of that home made
bread.  Larry made this great bread with molasses in it.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 17:01:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07679
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 17:01:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00111261@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:14:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13037005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 23:14:04 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B3E4D28317 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:14:04 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6B3E3iR012039 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:14:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D23626A.AC0246B2@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020710201138.00a379e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:14:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEOFFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

mem's evaluation was spot on. They would be perfect if the whole thing was
larger.  I still love it though.  The cute coaster is very nice.

How are we all going to pose for a picture?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 17:10:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07694
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 17:10:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA530C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:17:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13037277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 23:23:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B3N0D29080 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:23:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 721318046; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 20:22:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711032259.721318046@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:22:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020710200956.00a47c30@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 10, 2002  8:10:50 pm"

Betty said:
> bread.  Larry made this great bread with molasses in it.

Anadama bread?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 17:10:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07701
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 17:10:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA5311@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:17:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13037298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 23:23:23 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B3NND29116 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:23:23 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 45CB2815B; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 20:23:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711032322.45CB2815B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:23:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020710201138.00a379e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 10, 2002  8:14: 3 pm"

Betty said:
> mem's evaluation was spot on. They would be perfect if the whole thing was
> larger.  I still love it though.  The cute coaster is very nice.
>
> How are we all going to pose for a picture?

Digital camera montage?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 17:25:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07719
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 17:25:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA539D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:32:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13037709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 23:38:22 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B3cMD30412 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:38:22 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust179.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.181]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005141961@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 23:38:19 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102147340.14169-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2CFE20.E3F6CCE4@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:40:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:
>
> You mean Tony Harminc?

Yes.
>
> In any case, what did you talk about?

You, mostly.

alyce
>
> Ann


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 17:45:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07758
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 17:45:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0011145A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:58:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13038245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 23:58:22 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B3wMD31912 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:58:22 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6B3wLiR007219 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:58:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020710200956.00a47c30@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020710205807.00a4d4f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:58:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711032259.721318046@yellow.rahul.net>

At 08:22 PM 7/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > bread.  Larry made this great bread with molasses in it.
>
>Anadama bread?



  Nope.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 17:56:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07765
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 17:56:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA5626@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 0:04:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13039599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 00:08:45 -0400
Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B42LD00482 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 00:02:21 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.15e.10728a5f (25916) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul
          2002 00:02:12 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <15e.10728a5f.2a5e5d44@aol.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 00:02:12 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: That other job
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/10/2002 8:13:14 PM Central Daylight Time,
karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:

<<
I think I mentioned that I had been up for a job at Motorola--that
didn't come through because they hired someone who had worked for them
before.


>>

I'm sorry.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 18:05:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07785
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 18:05:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA5766@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 0:12:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13040686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 00:18:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B4I0D02199 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 00:18:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9944D802B; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 21:17:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711041758.9944D802B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:17:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: That other job
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <15e.10728a5f.2a5e5d44@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Jul 11,
              2002  0: 2:12 am"

Evelyn Duncan said:
> In a message dated 07/10/2002 8:13:14 PM Central Daylight Time,
> karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:
>
> <<
> I think I mentioned that I had been up for a job at Motorola--that
> didn't come through because they hired someone who had worked for them
> before.
>
>
> >>
>
> I'm sorry.

Oh, don't bother. I'm sort of relieved--I wouldn't relish a 1-hr
commute, even if it paid the mortgage.

However, if the interview on Friday doesn't develop into something, I
will be bitterly disappointed.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 18:10:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07800
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 18:10:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA578E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 0:17:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13040816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 00:22:56 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6B4MtD02597 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 00:22:56 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA03407
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          21:22:53 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B8E3B97005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:22:25 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 3283 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2002 04:22:24 -0000
Received: from p13.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.60?) (66.237.73.60) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 11 Jul 2002 04:22:24 -0000
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEOFFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <3D23626A.AC0246B2@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v0313030bb952b804a9a5@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:22:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020710201138.00a379e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

>mem's evaluation was spot on. They would be perfect if the whole thing was
>larger.  I still love it though.  The cute coaster is very nice.
>
>How are we all going to pose for a picture?
>
>Betty

The same way that Brad posed for the Blockfest picture, of course.

I'm not up for coordinating this, but I'd be happy to volunteer Pete K. to
do the Photoshoppery. :-)

Ken Miller
Department of Photounreality

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 18:16:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07824
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 18:16:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA57C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 0:23:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13040985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 00:29:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B4TJD03119 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 00:29:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2ECA57E8E; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 21:29:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711042919.2ECA57E8E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:29:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v0313030bb952b804a9a5@[198.144.202.197]> from Bookrat at "Jul
              10, 2002  9:22:14 pm"

Bookrat said:
> >mem's evaluation was spot on. They would be perfect if the whole thing was
> >larger.  I still love it though.  The cute coaster is very nice.
> >
> >How are we all going to pose for a picture?
> >
> >Betty
>
> The same way that Brad posed for the Blockfest picture, of course.

Speaking of Brad, he phoned this morning! I was really surprised and
pleased, but unfortunately, we couldn't talk because I was busy
working on my blasted resume.

> I'm not up for coordinating this, but I'd be happy to volunteer Pete K. to
> do the Photoshoppery. :-)

Not till after Friday! He's busy doing my pre-interview work for me.

Karen
who has always depended on the kindness of Wordslers

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 18:34:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07851
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 18:34:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA585E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 0:41:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13041462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 00:46:53 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B4krD04486 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 00:46:53 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6B4kqe05860 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          23:46:52 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020711030243.6F75A7F67@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <01a801c22896$2a2d1c00$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:48:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >
> > > With palm facing toward the person you're signing to, extend the
> > > thumb, the first finger and the little finger, folding the other
two
> > > down.
> > >
> > > I = little finger only
> > > L = first finger and thumb
> > > Y = little finger and thumb
> >
> > I'm so glad I asked!  Because I think I've been seeing people giving
this
> > sign on tv, and I've seen it as little finger and index finger, and
> > wondered what this meant, as I always have.
>
> LOL. I always thought it was Hawaiian...
>
     - Karen

The Hawaiian sign for <Hang Loose>  is thumb and
little finger only.  No pointer finger.

              - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 18:50:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07871
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 18:50:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA592D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 0:57:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13042245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 01:03:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B53CD06235 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 01:03:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A42BB81C8; Wed, 10
          Jul 2002 22:03:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711050311.A42BB81C8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:03:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <01a801c22896$2a2d1c00$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 10, 2002 11:48:13 pm"

Doris Markland said:
> > >
> > > > With palm facing toward the person you're signing to, extend the
> > > > thumb, the first finger and the little finger, folding the other
> two
> > > > down.
> > > >
> > > > I = little finger only
> > > > L = first finger and thumb
> > > > Y = little finger and thumb
> > >
> > > I'm so glad I asked!  Because I think I've been seeing people giving
> this
> > > sign on tv, and I've seen it as little finger and index finger, and
> > > wondered what this meant, as I always have.
> >
> > LOL. I always thought it was Hawaiian...
> >
>      - Karen
>
> The Hawaiian sign for <Hang Loose>  is thumb and
> little finger only.  No pointer finger.

You're right. I was throwing the evil eye thing in there.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 20:10:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07935
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 20:10:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA5CC5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 2:17:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13045600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 02:23:25 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6B6NPD13633 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          02:23:25 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JQY00055; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 02:23:23 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KBB00190; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 02:23:21 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D2C97E8.3993.135056@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:24:08 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The sucking noise coming from this quarter is sometimes so great that I have
to think some of you know something about vacuum cleaners. If you had to
buy one tomorrow, what would you be looking for?

     mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 20:34:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07972
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 20:34:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00111CAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 2:47:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13045901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 02:47:21 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B6lKD15152 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 02:47:20 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id XAA44807 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 10 Jul 2002
          23:47:20 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207102344030.40737-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:47:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102142160.14169-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

I was also told that the sign for "I love you" is also the sign of
the devil.  666.  If you look closely, and imaginatively, you can find the
three 6's with the two folded down fingers forming the circle at the base
of the 6's and the raised fingers the straight part of the six.

  Sharon

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:

> And I -might- have believed that except that I think I saw it in an
> Italian movie and at some point I was told (I'm vague on this) that it was
> the sign of the devil, or warding off the devil, or something old and
> definitely not "bullshit."
>
> I wonder if anybody can help me here.  I'm pretty sure that I
> misinterpreted the 'love' sign on tv, but what about the other sign?
>
> Ann
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 21:10:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA08068
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 21:10:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA5DDD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 3:17:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13046615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 03:22:46 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B7MkD17663 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 03:22:46 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBRXB>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:22:45 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBRXA; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:22:39 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711092158.0280ce40@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:22:33 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>

10:55 03.07.2002 -0700 skrev Betty:
>Order now.  Order often!  Natalie, you can even have long sleeves!
>
>Thanks go to mem, Ken, and Pete for working on this.

Great! I have ordered.

Espen (new grandfather)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 22:00:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08131
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 22:00:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA5E7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 4:07:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13047218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 04:12:52 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B8CpD20721 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 04:12:51 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6B8HCv05776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:17:12
          +0200
References: <F100UVYKkpLTkUD5euw000085e4@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020711101712.A5766@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:17:12 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: casualty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F100UVYKkpLTkUD5euw000085e4@hotmail.com>; from
              rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM on Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 10:38:35PM +0000

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 10:38:35PM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote:
= Steph:
=
= >Girrrl, that was a temporary aberration.  Do you want to come up
= >next weekend and see the improvements?  I can offer a real bed
= >to sleep on too this time.
=
= No, no. I loved sleeping in the upstairs room next to the patio
= (balcony ?). My own private aerie. I liked the set-up.
=

Well, we just put the bed up there then.  It's portable and real
at the same time.  Or if it's nice, you can sleep out on the
roof terrace!

= >Although, however, one of my new colleagues lives in Antwerp and
= >he keeps inviting me down, so I may come down.
=
= Daily commute?
=

Nah, he's working part time - three days a week.  So that's only
two nights here.

= Stay dry,

It's much less worse than it seemed the other day.  My yearbooks
from school and some books I had as a kid were almost unscathed,
my science fiction magaizes are thrashed, the loose papers are
drying out ok, and I haven't looked at my other misc. magazines
(old Mads, High Times, National Lampoon, etc.)

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 22:32:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08163
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 22:32:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA5EF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 4:39:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13047574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 04:45:26 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B8jQD22412 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 04:45:26 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6B8npH05845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:49:51
          +0200
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711092158.0280ce40@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020711104951.A5842@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:49:51 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711092158.0280ce40@victoria.nb.no>; from
              Espen.Ore@NB.NO on Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 09:22:33AM +0200

=
= Espen (new grandfather)

Yay!  Can we see pictures?

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 22:38:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08170
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 22:38:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA5F27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 4:45:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13047719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 04:50:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B8ogD22724 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 04:50:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 558BF7C5D; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 01:50:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711085041.558BF7C5D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 01:50:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2C97E8.3993.135056@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 10, 2002  8:24: 8 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> The sucking noise coming from this quarter is sometimes so great that I have
> to think some of you know something about vacuum cleaners. If you had to
> buy one tomorrow, what would you be looking for?

Check Consumer Reports. My New Friend did, and he was very pleased
with what he got. (Bought over the net.) Unfortunately, we're not
speaking right now, so I can't ask him what he got.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 22:41:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08180
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 22:41:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA5F33@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 4:48:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13047761 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 04:54:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B8sED22928 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 04:54:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1F84E802B; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 01:54:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711085414.1F84E802B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 01:54:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711092158.0280ce40@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 11, 2002  9:22:33 am"

Espen Ore said:
> Espen (new grandfather)

Boy? Girl? Weight? Length? Difficulty of labor?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 22:42:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08192
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 22:42:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001120D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 4:55:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13047796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 04:55:10 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B8t9D22979 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 04:55:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 165F27DC6; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 01:55:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711085509.165F27DC6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 01:55:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: casualty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711101712.A5766@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul 11,
              2002 10:17:12 am"

steph said:
> It's much less worse than it seemed the other day.

Good.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 22:57:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08205
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 22:57:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA5FA8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 5:04:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13048121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 05:09:40 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B99dD24242 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:09:40 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBR0H>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:09:39 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBR0G; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:09:24 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <20020706012757.B993F7FFF@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711110725.02848cf8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:09:18 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: TV Sets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D264C79.AA92ED7B@maynor.net>

20:48 05.07.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor:
>Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > > I don't understand.  I have tapes of Japanese movies in Japanese and
> > > French movies in French.
> >
> > But DVDs allow you to choose a variety of languages from one DVD. So
> > you can buy one DVD, but sometimes watch it in English, sometimes in
> > Japanese, and sometimes in French.
>
>Why would I want to buy a DVD?  I've seen videotapes for sale in stores,
>of course, but have wondered who buys them and why.

I bought one DVD and one videotape in Vienna - both opera. But I have
collected videos for many years just like I buy and keep books.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 22:57:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08212
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 22:57:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA5FA9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 5:05:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13048128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 05:10:30 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B9ATD24330 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:10:30 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBR0L>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:10:29 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBR0K; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:10:15 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711110934.027ffba0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:10:09 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Happy birthday, Bonnie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGEEAPFPAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

22:28 05.07.2002 -0400 skrev Adam Hartfield:
>Happy birthday! We'll have to toast to your longetivity at the next
>SnowBash. :D

And a very late HB from me - I take it for granted that you survived even
if I have not come further in my list reading.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 23:04:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08222
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 23:04:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6006@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 5:11:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13048548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 05:17:10 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B9HAD25225 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:17:10 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBSAM>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:17:09 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBSAK; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:16:52 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020711092158.0280ce40@victoria.nb.no>
            <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711092158.0280ce40@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711111552.0281c480@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:16:44 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711104951.A5842@yoccoz.multinix.com>

10:49 11.07.2002 +0200 skrev steph:
>=
>= Espen (new grandfather)
>
>Yay!  Can we see pictures?

They are in Bergen - we are flying over next Thursday. (And I plan to bring
a camera.)

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 23:05:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08229
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 23:05:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6008@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 5:12:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13048562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 05:17:50 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B9HoD25254 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:17:50 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBSAT>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:17:49 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBSAS; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:17:40 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020711092158.0280ce40@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711111656.0284ed48@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:17:34 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711085414.1F84E802B@yellow.rahul.net>

01:54 11.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>Espen Ore said:
> > Espen (new grandfather)
>
>Boy? Girl? Weight? Length? Difficulty of labor?

Two boys, one at 3 kgs and one at 2.9 at birth (Monday morning).

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 23:15:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08246
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 23:15:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6044@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 5:22:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13048738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 05:27:51 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B9RpD25822 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:27:51 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBSBX>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:27:50 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBSBW; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:27:42 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711112659.02867dc8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:27:26 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D27AFE7.2763BD85@maynor.net>

22:05 06.07.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor:
>Was there pizza in Princeton in '47?

There was pizza in New Haven in 1955 I know.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun  4 23:17:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08250
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 4 Jun 1960 23:17:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00112204@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 5:29:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13048753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 05:29:58 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6B9TwD25928 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          05:29:58 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JRE00200; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:29:57 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KBH00610; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:29:56 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D2C97E8.3993.135056@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
            "Jul 10, 2002  8:24: 8 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D2CC3A0.24426.BE1A76@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:30:40 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711085041.558BF7C5D@yellow.rahul.net>

On 11 Jul 2002 at 1:50, Karen Kay wrote:

> Unfortunately, we're not speaking right now, so I can't ask him
> what he got.

Surely you can make up long enough to extract the needed information.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 00:21:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA08315
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 00:21:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA62D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 6:28:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13050709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 06:33:34 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BAXYD31784 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:33:34 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws82-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.82]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BAXWq28684
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:33:32 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102136280.13613-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <3D2CF09A.BAC090B6@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D5EF9.9DD17B5A@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:33:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:
>
>  On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
> >
> > I just would not be interested in meeting someone's husband that I don't
> > know. What would we talk about?
>
> I guess I should not have gone to dinner with Tony when he came here
> then? I should just have said I'm not interested in meeting someone's
> husband that I don't know?

Why would you think of Tony as somebody you "don't know"???

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 00:26:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA08322
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 00:26:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001124DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 6:38:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13050766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 06:38:59 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BAcxD32059 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:38:59 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws82-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.82]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BAcvq29572
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:38:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2C97E8.3993.135056@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D603E.2AA1600A@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:38:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Michael E. Macmillan" wrote:

> to think some of you know something about vacuum cleaners. If you had to
> buy one tomorrow, what would you be looking for?

Consumer Reports.  The last time I researched vacuum cleaners, CR led me
to buy a Panasonic.  But that was many years ago.  Also, it was for a
house with just carpets.  There are different recommendations for
different kinds of surfaces.

I will nevertheless be interested in responses to your question since I
may be in the market for a new vc before too long.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 00:29:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA08329
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 00:29:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001124F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 6:41:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13050814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 06:41:50 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BAfnD32206 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:41:49 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws82-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.82]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BAfkq00034
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:41:47 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020711092158.0280ce40@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711111656.0284ed48@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D60E8.823F5F52@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:41:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:

> Two boys, one at 3 kgs and one at 2.9 at birth (Monday morning).

Neat!  Did we know in advance that it was going to be a double?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 00:32:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA08341
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 00:32:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA62FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 6:39:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13050851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 06:44:52 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BAiqD32355 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:44:52 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws82-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.82]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BAinq00421
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:44:49 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020711112659.02867dc8@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D619E.8E44108C@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:44:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:

> >Was there pizza in Princeton in '47?
>
> There was pizza in New Haven in 1955 I know.

I think pizza was pretty common throughout the country by '55 -- though
no doubt not quite as ubiquitous as it is now, as in not a pizza place
on every corner and pizza boxes in every garbage can in town.  But I do
remember when we started eating it in Jackson and considered it
something <new> -- definitely not in the '40s.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 00:33:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA08348
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 00:33:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6306@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 6:40:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13050873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 06:45:41 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BAjfD32464 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:45:41 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws82-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.82]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BAjcq00562
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:45:39 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D61CF.911A8609@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:45:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Shortening Days
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I hate watching the days get shorter.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 00:54:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA08392
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 00:54:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6392@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 7:01:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13051340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 07:07:17 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BB7ED14882 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:07:14 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBSKB>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:07:13 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBSJ0; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:07:05 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020711092158.0280ce40@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711111656.0284ed48@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711130637.0286d2e0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:07:00 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D60E8.823F5F52@maynor.net>

05:41 11.07.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor:
>Espen Ore wrote:
>
> > Two boys, one at 3 kgs and one at 2.9 at birth (Monday morning).
>
>Neat!  Did we know in advance that it was going to be a double?

I believe so.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 01:20:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA08425
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 01:20:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA641A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 7:27:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13051779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 07:32:38 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BBWcD16810 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:32:38 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-85.panax.com [63.163.41.85])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BBWaj03713 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:32:37 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGEEAPFPAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020711073154.00a04c20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:32:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Happy birthday, Bonnie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711110934.027ffba0@victoria.nb.no>

>And a very late HB from me - I take it for granted that you survived even
>if I have not come further in my list reading.     --Espen

Thank you, Espen.  Yes, I live on.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 01:35:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA08440
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 01:35:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6474@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 7:42:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13051986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 07:48:21 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BBmLD17675 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:48:21 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-85.panax.com [63.163.41.85])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BBmKj06712 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:48:20 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020711074558.009fb5a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:48:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2C97E8.3993.135056@localhost>

>The sucking noise coming from this quarter is sometimes so great that I have
>to think some of you know something about vacuum cleaners. If you had to
>buy one tomorrow, what would you be looking for?
>      mem

Something less noisy than the thing I now own.  Because this thing does
vacuum fairly well, I bought huge ear protectors instead of a new
vacuum.  It was physically painful to get any where near the motor while I
vacuumed.  Whatever you buy, turn it on and lean down near the motor before
agreeing to purchase.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 01:39:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA08447
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 01:39:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00112786@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 7:52:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13052083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 07:52:04 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BBq4D17961 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:52:04 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws89-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.89]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BBplq11322
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:51:47 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:50:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Hi, Alec.  I have a question, Espen.  Thinking about Karen's sandal
choice just reminded me that I have a question you might be able to
answer:  Will my feet be cold in Joensuu in early August?  I have the
feeling that the weather there is going to be of the kind that we have
lots of in spring and fall and that I will agree can be considered
pleasant but that always presents attire problems for me.  I wear
sandals all summer here -- the ideal shoes because they go fine with
whatever is on the rest of the body -- skirts, pants (normally I wear
whatever you call these things that we used to call pedal-pushers),
etc.  That is the only kind of thing I would take on a trip to anywhere
with a <normal> climate in August.  But I'm worried about whether that
won't do in Finland -- whether my feet will get cold.  If yes, then I
will have problems figuring out what to take.  In winter I often wear
blank pants of the tightish kind with long tops to cover up the
tightness except on the calves and black Haflinger clogs with socks.
But that sounds downright hot for anywhere in August.  It also makes it
harder re where you're going and what you're doing -- like if you want
to generally <blend> and be unnoticeable, which is always my goal.  Or
you want to be <respectful> when going into a religious building, like
the one in Russia I'll be going to if my visa manages to come.  I still
tend to follow the no-doubt-out-of-date-now rule about wearing a skirt
in churches when traveling.  But the problem with skirts in cold weather
is feet.  I absolutely detest hose and don't wear them at all except
when having to wear non-clog-clothes in winter since bare feet in
enclosed shoes aren't comfortable.

So what's the weather going to be like in that neck of the woods?
Charts of average temperatures aren't usually all that helpful to me,
I've found.  It works better to simply ask somebody who knows the area
whether bare feet will be cold.

My trip dates are arrival in Helsinki on Aug. 3 and departure on Aug.
13.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 01:40:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA08454
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 01:40:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA64A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 7:46:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13052112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 07:52:29 -0400
Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BBqTD18009 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:52:29 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.b7.233c36ac (4387) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          07:52:22 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <b7.233c36ac.2a5ecb76@aol.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:52:22 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/11/2002 1:23:35 AM Central Daylight Time,
mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET writes:

<<
. If you had to
buy one tomorrow, what would you be looking for?


>>

Do you have bare floors as well as carpeting?  Are you
looking for a bagless sweeper or one with a bag?

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 01:48:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA08471
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 01:48:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001127E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 8:00:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13052392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 08:00:06 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BC06D18713 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:00:06 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBS3M>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:00:05 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBS3L; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:59:55 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <F106R4ZDgC81TbdkSmL000000ee@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711135817.0286b298@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:59:49 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020708202645.9BEAA7D08@yellow.rahul.net>

13:26 08.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>Marie Ascher said:
> > >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > >Me, too. Bought cakes taste good, but they aren't for birthdays.
> >
> > Last year Bruce bought me an Italian rum cake for my birthday. I told
> him he
> > could get me that same cake every year. Alas! the bakery has since closed.
> > Luckily, this is a very Italian area -- northward migration from the Bronx
> > -- and I'm sure there's another rum cake to be had nearby.
>
>As an adult, there are certain bought cakes I'd accept under any
>circumstances, even a birthday.

Last Monday Ingjerd and I shared a piece of Sachertorte at the
Kunsthistorisches Museum in Voenna. We are usually not cake people but we
might do this again next time we are in Vienna.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 01:52:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA08478
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 01:52:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6553@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 7:59:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13052514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 08:04:56 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BC4tD19191 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:04:55 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6BC9L506255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:09:21
          +0200
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020711140921.A6248@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:09:21 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Thu,
              Jul 11, 2002 at 06:50:58AM -0500

On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 06:50:58AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote:
= Hi, Alec.  I have a question, Espen.  Thinking about Karen's sandal

Why didn't you ask Kristin?  She's closer.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 01:57:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA08485
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 01:57:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA658D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 8:04:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13052652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 08:09:47 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6BC9lD19650 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          08:09:47 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JRI01482; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:09:47 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KBL03914; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:09:45 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D2CE915.12583.1506A28@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 02:10:29 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <b7.233c36ac.2a5ecb76@aol.com>

On 11 Jul 2002 at 7:52, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

> Do you have bare floors as well as carpeting?

Yes.

> Are you looking for a bagless sweeper or one with a bag?

Why would I prefer one over the other? I've never had one without a bag.

           mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 02:05:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08509
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 02:05:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001128D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 8:17:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13052906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 08:17:46 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BCHkD20732 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:17:46 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBSQP>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:17:45 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBSQ3; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:17:42 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711140310.028574d8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:17:37 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>

06:50 11.07.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor:
>So what's the weather going to be like in that neck of the woods?
>Charts of average temperatures aren't usually all that helpful to me,
>I've found.  It works better to simply ask somebody who knows the area
>whether bare feet will be cold.
>
>My trip dates are arrival in Helsinki on Aug. 3 and departure on Aug.
>13.

If it rains you might feel cold in sandals. Apart from that you should be
OK. My new Ecco sandals have given me a blister on the top of my big toe
after quite a lot of street walking in Graz and Vienna. That's why I am
wearing socks and shoes for some days. But I would normally use sandals
until the end of August or later. But if you have room for it it might be a
good idea to have some kind of shoes just in case.

Espen

>--
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

  --
Espen S. Ore, National Library of Norway

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 02:05:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08516
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 02:05:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001128DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 8:18:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13052582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 08:18:18 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BC8ID19468 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:08:18 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6BC8HUh011283 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:08:18 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207110807400.2608-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:08:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2C97E8.3993.135056@localhost>

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Michael E. Macmillan wrote:

>The sucking noise coming from this quarter is sometimes so great that I have
>to think some of you know something about vacuum cleaners. If you had to
>buy one tomorrow, what would you be looking for?

A vc manufacturer's shop - guaranteed rebuilts are a good buy.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 02:09:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08520
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 02:09:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA660B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 8:16:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13052976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 08:21:37 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BCLbD21009 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:21:37 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBSQ9>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:21:36 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBSQ8; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:21:29 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net> <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711141841.00b84668@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:21:22 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711140921.A6248@yoccoz.multinix.com>

14:09 11.07.2002 +0200 skrev steph:
>On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 06:50:58AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>= Hi, Alec.  I have a question, Espen.  Thinking about Karen's sandal
>
>Why didn't you ask Kristin?  She's closer.

Yes. And in any case Joensuu is different: it is further north than Oslo or
Talinn on the one hand and further inland on the other. All in all I would
guess that Oslo in August might be wetter and cooler tyhan Joensuu but who
knows?

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 02:10:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08527
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 02:10:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6625@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 8:17:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13052767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 08:22:56 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BCCuD20014 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:12:56 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6BCCtUh012701 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:12:55 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207110812340.2608-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:12:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>Hi, Alec.  I have a question, Espen.  Thinking about Karen's sandal
>choice just reminded me that I have a question you might be able to
>answer:  Will my feet be cold in Joensuu in early August?  I have the

Natalie, do you need some socks?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 02:18:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08585
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 02:18:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA66AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 8:25:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13053400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 08:30:52 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BCUqD22152 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:30:52 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-141.panax.com
          [65.114.190.141]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6BCUpj14522 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          08:30:51 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <b7.233c36ac.2a5ecb76@aol.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020711082900.00a06020@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:30:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2CE915.12583.1506A28@localhost>

> > Are you looking for a bagless sweeper or one with a bag?
>
>Why would I prefer one over the other? I've never had one without a bag.
>            mem

You might  prefer one without a bag so that you don't have to buy
bags.  And when the vacuum cleaner is old you don't have to search for
someone who still makes bags that fit that particular vacuum cleaner.  A
cup is easy to empty.  On the other hand, a bag is easy to just throw
away.  You might also want to look for a vacuum cleaner with a good HEPA
filter.  It takes all the nasties out of your household air.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 02:24:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08618
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 02:24:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA66F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 8:31:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13053600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 08:37:10 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BCbAD22753 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:37:10 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6BCb9e24751 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          07:37:09 -0500 (CDT)
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>           
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>           
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711092158.0280ce40@victoria.nb.no> 
            <20020711104951.A5842@yoccoz.multinix.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <01db01c228d7$de3fd480$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:38:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> =
> = Espen (new grandfather)
>
> Yay!  Can we see pictures?
>
> steph

What an announcement!

. . . speaking of t-shirts, oh by
the way . .I'm a new grandfather . .

Congratulations!

      - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 02:25:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08625
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 02:25:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00112A35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 8:38:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13053668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 08:38:05 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BCc4D22868 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:38:04 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6BCc4e25256 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          07:38:04 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020711085041.558BF7C5D@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <01e201c228d7$feb13060$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:39:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> Check Consumer Reports. My New Friend did, and he was very pleased
> with what he got. (Bought over the net.) Unfortunately, we're not
> speaking right now, so I can't ask him what he got.
>
> Karen

Er, does that mean you have been using
the word friend loosely?

           - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 02:45:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08669
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 02:45:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA68E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 8:52:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13054779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 08:58:15 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BCwED25440 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:58:14 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6BD2fh06399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:02:41
          +0200
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net> <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>
            <20020711140921.A6248@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711141841.00b84668@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020711150240.A6392@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:02:40 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711141841.00b84668@victoria.nb.no>; from
              Espen.Ore@NB.NO on Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 02:21:22PM +0200

= Talinn on the one hand and further inland on the other. All in all I would
= guess that Oslo in August might be wetter and cooler tyhan Joensuu but who
= knows?
=
= Espen

Natalie seems to think you do!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 02:55:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08673
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 02:55:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6A4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:02:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13055856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:08:12 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BD8CD27610 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:08:12 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws107-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.107]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BD88q27547
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:08:09 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>
            <20020711140921.A6248@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D8335.4FD98D54@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:08:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> = Hi, Alec.  I have a question, Espen.  Thinking about Karen's sandal
>
> Why didn't you ask Kristin?  She's closer.

Mainly because (off the top of my head, admittedly -- i.e., not looking
at a map) I would guess Espen to be closer latitudinally speaking.
Isn't he?  Also, I know that Espen has been to Joensuu, and I don't know
whether Kristin has.  And I know that Espen was online shortly before I
asked the question.  I don't know what Kristin's schedule is right now.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 02:56:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08684
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 02:56:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6A5B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:03:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13055941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:09:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BD99D27899 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:09:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws107-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.107]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BD94q27793
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:09:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207110812340.2608-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D836D.D17174EF@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:09:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> Natalie, do you need some socks?

You obviously didn't read past the beginning.  I have socks.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 02:57:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08688
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 02:57:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6A74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:04:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13056006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:10:11 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDAAD28057 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:10:11 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBSZQ>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:09:05 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBSZ3; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:08:57 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D29EAAA.28253.A197555A@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711150655.028451a8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:08:29 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020709012221.C3CBD7CCF@yellow.rahul.net>

18:22 08.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>Tony Harminc said:
> > What's so bad about bleach down the drain? Bleach quickly degrades
> > into mostly salt and water.
>
>I vaguely remember something about ph. Argh! I never write this! You
>know--acid/alkaline.
>
> > > Well, it worked like a charm. I was extremely impressed.
> >
> > It's the phosphoric acid that removes rust stains. You can boil up a
> > mess of rhubarb leaves to extract the oxalic acid and use that too.
> > Just don't drink the result.
>
>And rhubarb was on sale at HEB...
>
>Some web sites said the citric acid,  some said phosphoric acid. In
>either case, most soft drinks (not just cola) should work, right?

Cola has a pH of 1.8 or thereabout and that is much more (i.e. lower pH
value) than most soft drinks.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 02:58:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08692
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 02:58:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00112DAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:11:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13056428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:10:54 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDAsD28315 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:10:54 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws107-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.107]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BDAoq28329
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:10:51 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020711140310.028574d8@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D83D8.43968B3E@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:10:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:

> If it rains you might feel cold in sandals. Apart from that you should be
> OK. My new Ecco sandals have given me a blister on the top of my big toe
> after quite a lot of street walking in Graz and Vienna. That's why I am
> wearing socks and shoes for some days. But I would normally use sandals
> until the end of August or later. But if you have room for it it might be a
> good idea to have some kind of shoes just in case.

Thanks.  I will definitely take something for emergency cold, but I was
thinking about what to take for the majority of the time.  What body
clothes to take depends on the shoe question.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:01:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08701
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:01:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6C10@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:08:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13056849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:14:24 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDEND29518 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:14:23 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws107-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.107]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BDEKq29279
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:14:20 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net> <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711141841.00b84668@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D84A9.D1561D24@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:14:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:

> >Why didn't you ask Kristin?  She's closer.
>
> Yes. And in any case Joensuu is different: it is further north than Oslo or
> Talinn on the one hand and further inland on the other. All in all I would
> guess that Oslo in August might be wetter and cooler tyhan Joensuu but who
> knows?

In my mental map Bergen is slightly farther north than Oslo.  Is that
right, or are y'all going to make me get out a physical map or globe to
satisfy my curiosity.  And although I realize you're now in Oslo, I
think you can speak for Bergen.  I hadn't thought of the coastal vs
inland matter, though.  Anyway, is it not true that Bergen at least,
possibly Oslo, would be closer to the latitude of Joensuu than would any
part of Estonia?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:03:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08705
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:03:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6C4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:10:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13056996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:15:37 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDFbD29882 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:15:37 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws107-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.107]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BDFWq29574
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:15:33 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <3D233A82.311515FE@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711092158.0280ce40@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020711104951.A5842@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <01db01c228d7$de3fd480$360332d1@0018079268>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D84F2.98891413@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:15:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:

> What an announcement!
>
> . . . speaking of t-shirts, oh by
> the way . .I'm a new grandfather . .
>
> Congratulations!

Weird.  Until I got to the "Congratulations" line, I thought Doris was
announcing herself as a grandfather.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:04:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08711
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:04:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6C71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:11:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13057085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:17:14 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDHDD30195 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:17:13 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws107-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.107]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BDH7q00035
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:17:07 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net> <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>
            <20020711140921.A6248@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711141841.00b84668@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020711150240.A6392@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D8550.4D9FDE4D@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:17:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:
>
> = Talinn on the one hand and further inland on the other. All in all I would
> = guess that Oslo in August might be wetter and cooler tyhan Joensuu but who
> = knows?
> =
> = Espen
>
> Natalie seems to think you do!

I believe I used the word "might" in my question to Espen -- that he
might know the answer.  That's not the same as saying that I think he
for sure would know it.  He strikes me as the Wordsler most likely to
have advice on it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:12:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA09752
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:12:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6D53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:19:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13057692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:25:12 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDPBD31461 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:25:11 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6BDTc306513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:29:38
          +0200
References: <F99o3gm1gyjYwkaCi6a00009a92@hotmail.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207101758300.594-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020711152937.A6481@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:29:37 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207101758300.594-100000@og1.olagrande.net>; from
              aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET on Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 05:58:51PM -0500

=
= Anybody else like Radiohead?
=
= Ann

OK Computer is good.  I suspect what came before is as well.  I'm
not so thrilled with what came after.  There was a quote from
someone in one of the Dutch magazines that went along the lines
of "Radiohead was a good band until ... decided to stop singing"
where the dots are filled in with the singers name, only I'm not
going to look it up right now.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:15:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA09779
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:15:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00112EE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:27:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13058474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:27:25 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDROD32399 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:27:24 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6BDVpW06530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:31:51
          +0200
References: <3D2CC284.9DB1AD58@maynor.net>
            <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207101634390.7049-100000@idiom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020711153151.B6481@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:31:51 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Costa Rica
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207101634390.7049-100000@idiom.com>; from
              sharon@IDIOM.COM on Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 04:39:48PM -0700

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 04:39:48PM -0700, Sharon Ziperovich wrote:
= from anyone here with any opinions on the subject.  Almost everyone I've
= mentioned it to knows someone who has been to Costa Rica and LOVED it.
= that's fine, but no one can tell me where their friends, father-in-laws,
= or brother went precisely.
=
= Suggestions?
=
=  Sharon

Don't go to Costa Rica, as it's full of everyone's friends,
father-in-laws and brothers.  Go someplace else.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:16:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA09783
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:16:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6E71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:23:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13058906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:29:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDTJD01007 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:29:19 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1BC468062; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 06:29:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711132919.1BC468062@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:29:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711111656.0284ed48@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 11, 2002 11:17:34 am"

Espen Ore said:
> Two boys, one at 3 kgs and one at 2.9 at birth (Monday morning).

Those are pretty big babies for twins!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:18:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA09788
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:18:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6E94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:25:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13059016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:30:45 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDUjD01299 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:30:45 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust187.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.189]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003844605@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:29:51 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711092158.0280ce40@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D88C0.C297CB90@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:31:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:
>
>
> Espen (new grandfather)

Oh, yay!

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:19:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10162
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:19:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6ECC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:26:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13059175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:32:09 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDW8D01640 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:32:08 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6BDaZf06551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:36:35
          +0200
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020711111656.0284ed48@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020711132919.1BC468062@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020711153634.C6481@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:36:34 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711132919.1BC468062@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 06:29:18AM -0700

On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 06:29:18AM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
= Espen Ore said:
= > Two boys, one at 3 kgs and one at 2.9 at birth (Monday morning).
=
= Those are pretty big babies for twins!
=
= Karen

That's what I was thinking but I hadn't said it yet.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:20:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10167
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:20:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00112F38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:33:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13059233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:32:58 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDWvD01753 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:32:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0962A8078; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 06:32:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711133257.0962A8078@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:32:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Shortening Days
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D61CF.911A8609@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 11,
              2002  5:45:35 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> I hate watching the days get shorter.

Yes. I've been noticing that,  too.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:21:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10177
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:21:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6F0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:28:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13059345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:34:17 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDYHD02050 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:34:17 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust187.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.189]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003844712@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:34:14 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020711092158.0280ce40@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711111656.0284ed48@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D89C7.7FFBBC36@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:36:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:
> Two boys, one at 3 kgs and one at 2.9 at birth (Monday morning).

Twin boys rule!

Mother of twin boys

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:24:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10190
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:24:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6F5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:30:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13059635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:36:16 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDaFD02465 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:36:15 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust187.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.189]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003844749@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:36:15 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102136280.13613-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <3D2CF09A.BAC090B6@valstar.net> <3D2D5EF9.9DD17B5A@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D8A40.5937785C@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:38:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
 I should just have said I'm not interested in meeting someone's
> > husband that I don't know?
>
> Why would you think of Tony as somebody you "don't know"???

I don't know. I was being perverse when I wrote that.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:26:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10194
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:26:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA6FFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:33:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13060234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:38:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDcTD04064 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:38:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0C84D8240; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 06:35:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711133540.0C84D8240@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:35:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 11,
              2002  6:50:58 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Hi, Alec.  I have a question, Espen.  Thinking about Karen's sandal
> choice just reminded me that I have a question you might be able to

This reminds me: Lydia said No Open-Toed Shoes.

What do y'all think? This interview will require more dressy clothes
than most interviewing I do, because I'm interviewing several layers
further up the food chain than I normally do.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:27:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10198
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:27:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA700E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:33:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13060299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:39:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDdRD04195 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:39:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7A5998249; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 06:36:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711133638.7A5998249@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:36:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711135817.0286b298@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 11, 2002  1:59:49 pm"

Espen Ore said:
> 13:26 08.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> >As an adult, there are certain bought cakes I'd accept under any
> >circumstances, even a birthday.
>
> Last Monday Ingjerd and I shared a piece of Sachertorte at the
> Kunsthistorisches Museum in Voenna. We are usually not cake people but we
> might do this again next time we are in Vienna.

LOL! That's one of the exceptions I was thinking of.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:27:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10202
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:27:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7021@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:34:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13060334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:39:58 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDdvD04260 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:39:57 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust187.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.189]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003844829@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:39:31 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2CE915.12583.1506A28@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D8B04.64E5E716@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:41:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Michael E. Macmillan" wrote:
>
> Why would I prefer one over the other? I've never had one without a bag.

Because with no bag you don't need to buy more bags, nor remove and
replace them.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:28:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10206
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:28:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7048@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:35:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13060501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:41:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDf9D04716 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:41:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7736280AA; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 06:41:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711134105.7736280AA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:41:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711153634.C6481@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul 11,
              2002  3:36:34 pm"

steph said:
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 06:29:18AM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> = Espen Ore said:
> = > Two boys, one at 3 kgs and one at 2.9 at birth (Monday morning).
> =
> = Those are pretty big babies for twins!
> =
> = Karen
>
> That's what I was thinking but I hadn't said it yet.

It's good though, that they are normal weight. My brothers were in ICU
for a long time--we stopped believing my parents, that we had new
brothers.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:34:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10219
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:34:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7162@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:41:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13061249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:46:58 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDkwD06015 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:46:58 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBTAC>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:46:57 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBTAB; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:46:50 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net> <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711141841.00b84668@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711154555.00b93f90@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:46:44 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D84A9.D1561D24@maynor.net>

08:14 11.07.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor:
>Espen Ore wrote:
>
> > >Why didn't you ask Kristin?  She's closer.
> >
> > Yes. And in any case Joensuu is different: it is further north than Oslo or
> > Talinn on the one hand and further inland on the other. All in all I would
> > guess that Oslo in August might be wetter and cooler tyhan Joensuu but who
> > knows?
>
>In my mental map Bergen is slightly farther north than Oslo.  Is that
>right, or are y'all going to make me get out a physical map or globe to
>satisfy my curiosity.  And although I realize you're now in Oslo, I
>think you can speak for Bergen.  I hadn't thought of the coastal vs
>inland matter, though.  Anyway, is it not true that Bergen at least,
>possibly Oslo, would be closer to the latitude of Joensuu than would any
>part of Estonia?

Yes, and bergen is slightly farther north than Oslo. But Bergen is also
cooler than Oslo since it is near the open Atlantic while Oslo is at the
head of a longish fjord.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:36:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10226
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:36:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA71B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:42:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13061384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:48:28 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDmRD06296 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:48:28 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBTAH>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:48:27 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBTAG; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:48:20 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020711111656.0284ed48@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711154719.02809d58@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:48:14 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711132919.1BC468062@yellow.rahul.net>

06:29 11.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>Espen Ore said:
> > Two boys, one at 3 kgs and one at 2.9 at birth (Monday morning).
>
>Those are pretty big babies for twins!

I saw theur mother some weeks ago, and yes, they were big. They were also
close to full-time (the traditionally calculated birth date was July 19).

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:36:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10230
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:36:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA71C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:43:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13061430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:49:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDn8D06404 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:49:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 480368004; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 06:49:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711134904.480368004@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:49:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Last night I got two invitations to birthday parties. Adult birthday
parties.

One is at a water park (Schlitterbahn) and one is at a local mansion,
"Austin's premier location for weddings, receptions and other
distinctive occasions". (But the website spells the name of the rugs
as Kierman--which I think is wrong.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:37:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10234
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:37:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA71E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:44:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13061514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:50:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDoCD06570 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:50:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D8E908004; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 06:50:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711135011.D8E908004@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:50:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711154719.02809d58@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 11, 2002  3:48:14 pm"

Espen Ore said:
> I saw theur mother some weeks ago, and yes, they were big.

:)

> They were also
> close to full-time (the traditionally calculated birth date was July 19).

That's good--much better for the babies.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:39:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10238
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:39:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA720E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:46:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13061636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:52:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDq2D06804 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:52:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AD7047F8E; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 06:51:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711135158.AD7047F8E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:51:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My Coke Experiment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711150655.028451a8@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 11, 2002  3: 8:29 pm"

Espen Ore said:
> Cola has a pH of 1.8 or thereabout and that is much more (i.e. lower pH
> value) than most soft drinks.

pH. That looks fine when I read it and odd when I type it.

Anyway, thanks for the info. I suspect this might be why cola is specified.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:40:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10242
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:40:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7248@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:47:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13061704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:52:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDqYD06924 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:52:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3F9217FA0; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 06:52:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711135233.3F9217FA0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:52:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <01e201c228d7$feb13060$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 11, 2002  7:39:27 am"

Doris Markland said:
> >
> > Check Consumer Reports. My New Friend did, and he was very pleased
> > with what he got. (Bought over the net.) Unfortunately, we're not
> > speaking right now, so I can't ask him what he got.
> >
> > Karen
>
> Er, does that mean you have been using
> the word friend loosely?

No. You can fight with friends and still be friends.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:40:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10246
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:40:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA725D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:47:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13061778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:53:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDr1D07049 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:53:01 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws86-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.86]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BDqrq10041
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:52:54 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D8DB2.438334FD@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:52:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Whew
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Steph had me worried for a minute about my sense of geography.  But it
wasn't so off, after all:

Joensuu's latitude: 6240
Bergen's latitude: 6023
Oslo's latitude: 6012
Tallinn's latitude: 5923
from http://cdo.ncdc.noaa.gov/cdo/3500stn.txt

Torkel and Marcia are no doubt latitudinally closer to Joensuu than is
Espen.  They aren't regulars on the list, though, and I also don't know
whether they've ever been to Joensuu.  Espen is the only Wordsler I know
for sure has been.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:42:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10250
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:42:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA727E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:49:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13061873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:55:22 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BDtLD07292 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:55:21 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust187.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.189]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005152594@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 09:55:15 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711133540.0C84D8240@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D8EB4.ECB5AB3@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:57:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> What do y'all think? This interview will require more dressy clothes
> than most interviewing I do, because I'm interviewing several layers
> further up the food chain than I normally do.

I would wear closed-toe shoes and a suit or plain dress.
Are stockings ever worn in Texas? If yes, I'd wear them.

But I am old-fashioned--one who wore white gloves and a hat to
interviews a half-century ago.

alyce
>
> Karen


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:48:31 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10270
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:48:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00113243@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:00:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13062241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:00:56 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BE0uD07976 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:00:56 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws86-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.86]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BE0qq12375
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:00:53 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2CC284.9DB1AD58@maynor.net>
            <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207101634390.7049-100000@idiom.com>
            <20020711153151.B6481@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D8F91.92355E4C@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:00:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Costa Rica
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> Don't go to Costa Rica, as it's full of everyone's friends,
> father-in-laws and brothers.  Go someplace else.

And it's usually packed to the gills with MSU students.  There are
almost always some of our students in CR on internships for
International Business majors, ordinary Spanish classes, or other
situations.  A student whose oral MA exam I was on recently and I see
almost every day around campus spent a year there recently as part of
that international organization the name of which I can't remember that
helps children.  If I run into her today, I'll ask her opinions.  I saw
her yesterday and asked how long it took to get her Russian visa when
she went in May to visit her sister, a former student of mine who has
been working in Moscow the past few years.  She said that she had to
keep on calling the Russian Embassy day after day but finally got her
visa.  This bodes ill.  Anyway, I'll ask her about CR if I see her
today.

I agree with what Steph said, though, about how CR must be jammed with
USAers all the time.  Or at least that would seem to have been the case
not all that many years ago.  It seemed for a while there, maybe ten or
so years ago, that almost everybody I knew was hopping away to CR for
short trips.  That doesn't seem to be the case anymore, though, among
colleagues etc here.  Now it always seems to be tons of my students who
are coming and going between here and there.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:48:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10277
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:48:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7307@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:55:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13062249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:00:58 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BE0wD07990 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:00:58 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust187.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.189]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003845323@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:00:21 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711134105.7736280AA@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D8FE5.2E10C3E@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:02:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> It's good though, that they are normal weight.

D & J both were about 6.5 lbs. I cannot remember the exact ounces, but
they totalled 13 lbs. 1 oz.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:48:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10281
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:48:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00113248@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:01:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13062256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:01:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BE12D08038 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:01:03 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2D1EA7FF9; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 07:00:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711140059.2D1EA7FF9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:00:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D8EB4.ECB5AB3@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 11,
              2002  9:57: 8 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > What do y'all think? This interview will require more dressy clothes
> > than most interviewing I do, because I'm interviewing several layers
> > further up the food chain than I normally do.
>
> I would wear closed-toe shoes and a suit or plain dress.
> Are stockings ever worn in Texas? If yes, I'd wear them.
>
> But I am old-fashioned--one who wore white gloves and a hat to
> interviews a half-century ago.

My friend Susan said no stockings are okay--but she also said
open-toed shoes were okay. And she is a smart business dresser--I
trust her judgment. (Lydia is in California, and Susan is right here.)

I'll have to go through my shoes. I don't remember owning any
closed-toe shoes that fit and are dressy, and I'm not going to buy
shoes. I can't imagine anything worse for an interview than new shoes.

I don't own a summer suit, unfortunately. I'm going to look at clothes
after I get my hair cut today. Lydia did stress the plainness, that I
want them thinking about what I say.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:49:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10285
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:49:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7319@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:56:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13062294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:01:50 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BE1oD08099 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:01:50 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust187.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.189]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005152759@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:01:15 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711134904.480368004@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D901B.9D4EBB93@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:03:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Last night I got two invitations to birthday parties. Adult birthday
> parties.

Will there be cake?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:50:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10289
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:50:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7336@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:57:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13062385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:02:48 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f185.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.185]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BE2mD08265 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:02:48 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 07:02:42 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:02:37 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2002 14:02:42.0857 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A01A7190:01C228E3]
Message-ID:  <F185WIlB7JKLIcRZHw2000102a3@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:02:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>to think some of you know something about vacuum cleaners. If you had to
>buy one tomorrow, what would you be looking for?

I would just go to Sears and let Evelyn advise me :-)

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:50:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10292
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:50:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7337@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:57:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13062389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:02:48 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BE2mD08264 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:02:48 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PBTB2>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:02:47 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PBTBH; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:02:34 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020711155907.00bf5c98@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:02:29 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Whew
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D8DB2.438334FD@maynor.net>

08:52 11.07.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor:
>Steph had me worried for a minute about my sense of geography.  But it
>wasn't so off, after all:
>
>Joensuu's latitude: 6240
>Bergen's latitude: 6023
>Oslo's latitude: 6012

This is pretty far north of the city centre. My guess is that it is the
geometric centre of the area covered by Oslo. Since the largest part of
that is a forest (our sesshin will be close to the city centre) a more
correct latitude for Oslo (as a city) is 59 dg 55 mn north.

Luleå is at 65 dg north, so Oslo is slightly closer to Joensuu than Luleå is.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:52:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10297
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:52:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7373@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:59:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13062538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:04:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BE4vD08545 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:04:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 845CC7F95; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 07:04:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711140456.845CC7F95@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:04:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D901B.9D4EBB93@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 11,
              2002 10: 3: 7 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Last night I got two invitations to birthday parties. Adult birthday
> > parties.
>
> Will there be cake?

Good question! The Friday party is the birthday party of someone who
writes about food for the local newspaper, so I expect there will be
cake. (She's a friend of *er*, and he invited me.) The other one, I
dunno. That's not till August.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:52:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10304
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:52:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7378@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 9:59:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13062553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:05:10 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BE5AD08608 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:05:10 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust187.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.189]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003845447@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:04:44 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711140059.2D1EA7FF9@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D90EC.E26C6A71@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:06:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

 Lydia did stress the plainness, that I
> want them thinking about what I say.

Yes, that is what I was thinking. They must concentrate on you, not your
clothes. Or toes. You don't polish your toenails, do you? (In case you
wear sandals?)

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:54:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10308
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:54:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7392@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:01:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13062636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:06:46 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BE6kD08791 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:06:46 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws86-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.86]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BE6fq14093
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:06:42 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711133540.0C84D8240@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D90EE.80A906A5@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:06:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> This reminds me: Lydia said No Open-Toed Shoes.
>
> What do y'all think? This interview will require more dressy clothes
> than most interviewing I do, because I'm interviewing several layers
> further up the food chain than I normally do.

I find that strange advice in the summer.  Sandals to me can look
dignified enough for almost any setting -- almost any degree of
formality.  To <dress up> wearing non-sandals requires (imho -- both for
feel and appearance) hose.  And hosed legs in summer are highly
distasteful to me.  Obviously I find hose horribly distasteful to feel
on my legs in summer (an experience I almost never have -- used to wear
them to weddings and funerals -- these days even that doesn't seem to be
required), but I also think they look <unpleasant> on other people's
legs -- they cry out to me, "we [legs] are hot and miserable and our
human controller is a stuffy person."

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:56:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10312
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:56:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA73C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:02:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13062792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:08:26 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BE8QD09056 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:08:26 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws86-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.86]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BE8Nq14559
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:08:24 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net> <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711141841.00b84668@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711154555.00b93f90@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D9154.4E243388@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:08:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:

> Yes, and bergen is slightly farther north than Oslo. But Bergen is also
> cooler than Oslo since it is near the open Atlantic while Oslo is at the
> head of a longish fjord.

What you said about inlandness made me remember that Fairbanks is much
hotter than Anchorage in summer, even though it's a good bit north.  So
I realize that latitude isn't <everything>.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:56:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10316
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:56:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA73D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:03:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13062825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:08:58 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BE8wD09125 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:08:58 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ300DH68MXU1@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:08:58 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D22A3CD.4138.C1DEB@localhost>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711092158.0280ce40@victoria.nb.no>
Message-ID:  <3D2D9120.7070503@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:07:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:

> 10:55 03.07.2002 -0700 skrev Betty:
>
>> Order now.  Order often!  Natalie, you can even have long sleeves!
>>
>> Thanks go to mem, Ken, and Pete for working on this.
>
>
> Great! I have ordered.
>
> Espen (new grandfather)


        Details pappou!




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:56:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10323
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:56:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA73FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:03:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13062915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:09:24 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BE9OD09293 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:09:24 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws86-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.86]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BE9Kq14820
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:09:21 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711134904.480368004@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D918D.CF3533B6@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:09:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Last night I got two invitations to birthday parties. Adult birthday
> parties.

Are the honorees honoring themselves, or is somebody else hosting the
parties?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 03:59:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10327
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 03:59:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011337F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:11:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13063128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:11:56 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BEBuD09678 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:11:56 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws86-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.86]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BEBpq15519
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:11:53 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711133540.0C84D8240@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2D8EB4.ECB5AB3@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D9225.1E59D15F@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:11:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> But I am old-fashioned--one who wore white gloves and a hat to
> interviews a half-century ago.

But that attire was no doubt appropriate a half-century ago.  We wore
hats and gloves to go shopping in downtown Jackson until late '50s or
so.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 04:02:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10340
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 04:02:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7483@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:09:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13063348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:14:32 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BEEWD10269 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:14:32 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws86-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.86]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BEEBq16150
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:14:13 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711140059.2D1EA7FF9@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D92B0.BDA24289@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:14:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> My friend Susan said no stockings are okay--but she also said
> open-toed shoes were okay. And she is a smart business dresser--I

Those two things go together for me (unless we're talking about clogs
and socks, of course, but I think we aren't here).  I think shoes other
than sandals feel horrible rubbing against bare skin.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 04:03:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10347
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 04:03:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA74B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:10:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13063468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:15:53 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BEFrD10559 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:15:53 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws86-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.86]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BEFmq16712
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:15:49 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020711155907.00bf5c98@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D9312.7BD9695A@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:15:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Whew
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:

> Luleå is at 65 dg north, so Oslo is slightly closer to Joensuu than Luleå is.

I didn't find Lulea on that particular chart.  I knew it was north of
Joensuu but didn't know how far north.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 04:06:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10351
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 04:06:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA751D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:13:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13063765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:18:42 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BEI4D11104 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:18:05 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ3005M1924WH@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:18:04 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D2CC366.2595C4BD@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020710200122.00a4d750@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D2D9342.20009@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:16:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Now playing ...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:


> I slapped a piece of dead cow,  left over from the night before's dinner,
> between two pieces of home made bread  smeared  with  some mayo.  Plums
> from our tree.
>


        I finished up a volume of William Carolos Williams last
night, and he mentions plums in about a dozen poems -- and
now I'm craving a nice sweet plum.  I'll have to hit the
grocery store on my travels today.  I'm going to do a little
redecorating in Lisa's room.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 04:06:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10358
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 04:06:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00113461@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:19:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13063872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:19:21 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BEJLD11282 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:19:21 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ3005SC948UU@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:19:20 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020710212706.41B247D47@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020710191207.00a50670@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D2D938E.3010408@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:17:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> At 08:46 PM 7/10/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>
>> Karen Kay wrote:
>>
>>> Rita Chapman said:
>>>
>>>>> I'd rather see Rita, it's true. But if he came to Austin, I'd go out
>>>>> to dinner with him.
>>>>
>>>> I'll let him know!  He'd probably enjoy having company for
>>>> dinner, that's for sure.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I wouldn't drive to Dallas to have dinner with him--that's 3.5
>>> hours! But sure, if were here. Why not?!
>>
>>
>>
>> I dunno.  Ask Betty what she has against him.
>
>
> I just would not be interested in meeting someone's husband that I don't
> know. What would we talk about? I guess I could ask him if he would know
> what to put in Ana's lunch.


        You could discuss what a fascinating and wonderful person I
am, of course.

        He would not have the faintest idea about what I put in Ana's
lunch.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 04:10:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10362
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 04:10:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA75C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:17:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13064261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:22:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BEMjD11922 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:22:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A52D77FF9; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 07:22:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711142241.A52D77FF9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:22:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D90EC.E26C6A71@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 11,
              2002 10: 6:36 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>  Lydia did stress the plainness, that I
> > want them thinking about what I say.
>
> Yes, that is what I was thinking. They must concentrate on you, not your
> clothes. Or toes. You don't polish your toenails, do you? (In case you
> wear sandals?)

Dear god, no.

But she knows my propensity for bright colors.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 04:11:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10369
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 04:11:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA75EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:18:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13064368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:23:41 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BENeD12110 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:23:40 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ3005O29BGWO@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:23:40 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102153350.14552-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2D9492.4020403@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:22:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Dumb kids
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>inclusion.  It's an alright class.  It's just that I've
>>lived it with Ana (who is officially learning disabled/Other
>>Health Impaired -- in other words, one of the "slow" kids
>>even though her IQ is in the gifted range).
>>
>
> What puts her in the learning disabled/other health impaired category?


She has sensory issues.  Many fewer now since she's had
wonderful OTs, but occasionally something comes up that I
have to think about and solve for her classroom teacher.
The teacher wouldn't let her stretch to organize during
testing, and you can see how her scores dropped at the end
of every session.  Since the testing is more about how good
the school is than the individual child, I gave them a big
fat I-told-you-so.


> (OK if you don't mind my asking and my guessing, let me guess - dyslexic?)


No, thank goodness.  I thought we'd have issues here because
of speech and language delays, but she's solidly normal in
the language department -- which represents an enormous
achievement on her part.





--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 04:11:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10373
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 04:11:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7605@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:18:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13064429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:24:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BEOHD12244 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:24:17 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9CE4D7FF9; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 07:24:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711142416.9CE4D7FF9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:24:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D918D.CF3533B6@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 11,
              2002  9: 9:17 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Last night I got two invitations to birthday parties. Adult birthday
> > parties.
>
> Are the honorees honoring themselves, or is somebody else hosting the
> parties?

In the water park case, she's throwing it for herself. In the mansion
case, I don't know, because the honoree invited *er*, and he invited
me.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 04:19:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10390
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 04:19:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7720@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:26:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13065208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:32:13 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6BEWCD13898 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:32:12 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA00519
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          07:32:11 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A68497006 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:32:10 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 507 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2002 14:32:09 -0000
Received: from p28.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.75?) (66.237.73.75) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 11 Jul 2002 14:32:09 -0000
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130304b9528e50dd70@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:32:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE27fogkJXrRjbDt3Hv00008e8c@hotmail.com>

>Details notwithstanding, the question is this: I need to pack a lunch to
>send along with him. What should I prepare?
>
>AS

I think you should pack some goat's head.  You do have goat's head on hand,
don't you?  If not, get Espen to Fedex some to you.

Ken Miller
Organoleptics Department
California Institute of Haught Cuisine

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 04:20:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10397
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 04:20:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7730@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:27:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13065258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:32:35 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BEWUD13980 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:32:30 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6BEWTe08401 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          09:32:29 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <3D2C97E8.3993.135056@localhost>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <029601c228e7$f9c83840$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:33:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> The sucking noise coming from this quarter is sometimes so great that
I have
> to think some of you know something about vacuum cleaners. If you had
to
> buy one tomorrow, what would you be looking for?
>
>      mem

I am probably not the one to talk to.  Through the years
I have  <invested in> <accumulated> <inherited>
3 different vacuum systems, all of which I use at
different times and for different reasons, all of which
I like, and they are Kirby, Rainbow, and Electrolux,
none of which are the kind you walk into a discount
store and buy.  Some say systems like these are
overpriced, but I say they are worth the price.
Although I once bought a Kirby new, many years
later I replaced it with an almost new Kirby for $100 from
an estate sale.  And then many years later I updated
again by buying a new slightly used Kirby from a
dealer for a reasonable price.

I often see vacuum systems of this type advertised
for sale cheap, usually after the death of an old timer
like me.

                         - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 04:31:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10409
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 04:31:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00113719@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:43:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13066249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:43:49 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BEhmD16212 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:43:48 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6BEhmG02399
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:43:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020711092158.0280ce40@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711111656.0284ed48@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D9B4E.F0C8E106@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:50:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:
>
> 01:54 11.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> >Espen Ore said:
> > > Espen (new grandfather)
> >
> >Boy? Girl? Weight? Length? Difficulty of labor?
>
> Two boys, one at 3 kgs and one at 2.9 at birth (Monday morning).

Congratulations!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 04:31:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10413
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 04:31:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA787E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:38:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13066257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:43:54 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BEhsD16228 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:43:54 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ3005CTA95UU@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:43:53 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020711022310.00C8D7DA7@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2D994F.5020401@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:42:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Betty said:
>
>>I just would not be interested in meeting someone's husband that I don't
>>know. What would we talk about? I guess I could ask him if he would know
>>what to put in Ana's lunch.
>>
>
> We'd talk about Rita and his boat and living in Missouri and his job
> and being unemployed and... and... LOTS OF STUFF!



        My god!  You're soulmates! :)




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 04:32:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10417
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 04:32:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA789A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:39:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13066322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:44:40 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6BEidD16346 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:44:39 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA02202
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          07:44:38 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B60497004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:44:37 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 2189 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2002 14:44:36 -0000
Received: from p28.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.75?) (66.237.73.75) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 11 Jul 2002 14:44:36 -0000
References: <20020709212908.838A97CDE@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2B5C57.152D505C@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130307b95293a81ec9@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:44:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2CA80D.7020802@swbell.net>

>> You want to meet RNH?  Not me.
>>
>
>Meanie.  You'll make him cry.

>Rita Rouvalis Chapman

I would love to meet the RNH.  I want to meet the guy in charge of all the
SBC golems.  Plus, maybe he could do something about the fact that my DSL
link is as likely to be down as it is up.

Ken Miller
Technoannalist
Babbage Engine Works

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 04:42:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10421
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 04:42:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011385A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:54:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13067131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:54:23 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6BEsMD18202 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:54:22 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA03537
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          07:54:20 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D5D6197004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:54:19 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 3526 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2002 14:54:18 -0000
Received: from p28.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.75?) (66.237.73.75) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 11 Jul 2002 14:54:18 -0000
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207092136480.10287-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130302b9528d369b33@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:54:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <005701c227da$ff2713a0$360332d1@0018079268>

>That's adage inspiring.
>Like, so live your life that
>you make a good story.
>
>            - D. M.

"For the most trivial event to become an adventure, all you have to do is
start telling about it. This is what deceives people: a man is always a
teller of stories, he lives surrounded by his stories and the stories of
others, he sees everything which happens to him through these stories; and
he tries to live his life as if it were a story he was telling."  --Sartre,
_Nausea_

Ken Miller
Gilbert G. Smith School of Diegetic Studies

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 04:42:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10428
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 04:42:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA79DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:49:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13067169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:54:59 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BEsxD18261 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:54:59 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc56 ([204.127.198.45]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020711145454.DGHK24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:54:54 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc56; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:54:51 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020711145454.DGHK24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:54:51 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>:). I know. I, for whatever reason(s), am now virtually
>incapable of producing tears. I'd love to regain the
>ability.
>AS

The same thing happened to me, I lost the ability to cry.
I won't say I ever cried easily or even often but I was
at least able to. This persisted for years.

Much to my relief floodgates reopened for a short yet
strong period of tear flow this past weekend. It felt
good but once it was over I knew it wasn't the rebirth of
my ability to cry.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 05:01:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA10487
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 05:01:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7C57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:08:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13068998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 11:13:52 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BFDqD22103 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:13:52 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust187.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.189]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003846977@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 11:06:55 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711142241.A52D77FF9@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2D9F7F.22C49EE8@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:08:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> But she knows my propensity for bright colors.

I have heard you mention bright wearing apparel. I reiterate Plain.
Dull.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 05:07:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA10491
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 05:07:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7D31@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:14:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13069667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 11:19:38 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BFJcD23598 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:19:38 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6BFJbG03548
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:19:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711145454.DGHK24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DA3B4.60F9726D@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:26:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lisa Alfieri wrote:
>
> >:). I know. I, for whatever reason(s), am now virtually
> >incapable of producing tears. I'd love to regain the
> >ability.
> >AS
>
> The same thing happened to me, I lost the ability to cry.
> I won't say I ever cried easily or even often but I was
> at least able to. This persisted for years.
>
> Much to my relief floodgates reopened for a short yet
> strong period of tear flow this past weekend. It felt
> good but once it was over I knew it wasn't the rebirth of
> my ability to cry.

It will come back.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 05:15:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA10515
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 05:15:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7E2F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:22:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13070467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 11:27:56 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BFRtD25288 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:27:56 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id IAA32092 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          08:27:55 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207110826560.30172-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:27:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Costa Rica
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711153151.B6481@yoccoz.multinix.com>

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, steph wrote:
> Don't go to Costa Rica, as it's full of everyone's friends,
> father-in-laws and brothers.  Go someplace else.
>
> steph
>

Okay.  Where would you go?

 Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 05:30:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA10536
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 05:30:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA7FDF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:37:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13071747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 11:43:22 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BFhMD28041 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:43:22 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6BFhLe24477 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          10:43:21 -0500 (CDT)
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207092136480.10287-100000@og1.olagrande.net> 
            <v03130302b9528d369b33@[198.144.202.197]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <02b101c228f1$e1a65940$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:44:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> "For the most trivial event to become an adventure, all you have to do
is
> start telling about it. This is what deceives people: a man is always
a
> teller of stories, he lives surrounded by his stories and the stories
of
> others, he sees everything which happens to him through these stories;
and
> he tries to live his life as if it were a story he was
elling."  --Sartre,
> _Nausea_
>
> Ken Miller
> Gilbert G. Smith School of Diegetic Studies

Good quote and so true.

Although it's maybe irrelevant here, It reminds me
of a book I read once about dreams, which suggested
that though our dreams seem like weird stories we
could look back on any moment from our actual life and start
relating it or writing  down our thoughts and experiences
just as they happened and it would sound much
like a dream.  I tried it and found it interesting.
I do it once in a while just for kicks
and to remind myself life is but a dream.

                    - D. M.


                    - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 05:34:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA10547
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 05:34:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00113F2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:46:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13072147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 11:46:36 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BFkaD28933 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:46:36 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6BFkae27962 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          10:46:36 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020711145454.DGHK24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <02b801c228f2$5546dfa0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:47:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> Much to my relief floodgates reopened for a short yet
> strong period of tear flow this past weekend. It felt
> good but once it was over I knew it wasn't the rebirth of
> my ability to cry.
>
> lisa

Obviously then you have not lost your ability to
shed tears, I mean physically.  Sounds to me though
as if you have shut off your feelings.  Many people
sometimes isolate themselves in their intellect because they
choose not to feel.  It's a dry and lonely place.

                   - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 06:04:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10585
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 06:04:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001142B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:16:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13074937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 12:16:29 -0400
Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.106]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BGGSD02349 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:16:28 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.5d.3487dd5 (16240) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul
          2002 12:16:18 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m29.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.6]) by
          air-in03.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILININ34-0711121618;
          Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:16:18 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <7FA55A63.03A7D811.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:16:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:

>
>My college tuition was $200 a year.  True, that was quite a bit of money
>back then, but I don't see it as quite as staggering as you seem to see
>it.  I would guess that feeding a family of the size of your ran through
>far more extra money than that.  (And the textbook prices are still in
>the backs of the books I bought in college -- those I kept instead of
>selling back, of course.  Even a new book was around $1.)
>
>--
> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
Well, you're only a few years older than me, but it was about $300 a year at UGA in 1968 ($100 a quarter).  I have it on good authority, from the Bradster and Major Ingram that it was about the same here at UK.  It's now about $1700 a semester....

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 06:23:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10605
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 06:23:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001144C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:35:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13076792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 12:35:25 -0400
Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BGZOD06525 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:35:25 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.5.475ba9f (16237) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul
          2002 12:35:12 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m29.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.6]) by
          air-in03.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILININ31-0711123511;
          Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:35:11 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <4EE14297.2A2EE16C.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:35:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:

>Last night I got two invitations to birthday parties. Adult birthday
>parties.
>
>One is at a water park (Schlitterbahn) and one is at a local mansion,
>"Austin's premier location for weddings, receptions and other
>distinctive occasions". (But the website spells the name of the rugs
>as Kierman--which I think is wrong.)
>
It is: Kerman.  I've actually been there and did a major story for the Tehran Journal on the renovation of the bazaar, ca. 1974.  Wonder what happened?

jbh
>


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 06:28:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10612
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 06:28:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011453E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:40:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13077179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 12:40:48 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BGelD07398 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:40:47 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020711164041.HVHA24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:40:41 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <4.2.2.20020710201138.00a379e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEOFFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <3D23626A.AC0246B2@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020710225050.01dccd10@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:36:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v0313030bb952b804a9a5@[198.144.202.197]>

Bookrat writes,

>I'm not up for coordinating this, but I'd be happy to volunteer Pete K. to
>do the Photoshoppery. :-)

Thanks, Boo!  Send 'em in via attachment or URL.  Karen, can you provide a
photo of the venue?

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 06:30:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10624
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 06:30:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA86D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:37:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13077419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 12:42:59 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6BGgxD08000 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          12:42:59 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6BGgw240512 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          12:42:59 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEDGFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:42:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

If food still worked as an emotional crutch for me, I would have gained 10
lbs in the last 12 hrs.

The Man of Few Words had enough words left over to send me an email ending
things with me...which makes sense since I learned he never ended it with
his last girlfriend....that hurt way more than him ending it with me. I
don't think he liked my reaction to his lack of integrity when he told me
(up at my place at Tahoe) that he wouldn't be able to see me for 2 weeks
while his ex was vacationing with him at his place sometime this month. One
day he talks about having a house with me and talking about our chances of
adopting somewhere down the line....the next day he's telling me his "ex"
isn't exactly that. Ok, he wasn't the right guy for me. That's clear.

And my CASA kid called this morning having learned she is losing the only
real home she's known ...she's been in this foster home 2.5 yrs and the
foster mom (on vacation) gave a 7 day notice and so the girl is being moved
to I-Don't-Know-Where sometime tomorrow. She is frantic and I don't blame
her. Threatening a kid with their home is a horrible way to manage a kid.
I'm trying to do a lot of damage control and gather info on where they're
placing her (probably a group home ... bad for her... but hopefully in the
city).

Alyce, go eat something for me, willya? ;)

As of Monday, 89 lbs!!! Life goes on.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 06:33:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10628
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 06:33:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001145E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:46:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13076850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 12:46:16 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BGaGD06632 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:36:16 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6BGaFUh019096 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:36:15 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207111235070.2956-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:36:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D836D.D17174EF@maynor.net>

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>You obviously didn't read past the beginning.  I have socks.

It is not necessary for you to guess what I have done - but if it amuses
you to do so, have at it.

I find that sandals and socks often take care of cold feet.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 06:39:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10635
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 06:39:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA87E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:46:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13078484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 12:52:04 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BGq4D10756 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:52:04 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust187.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.189]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003849564@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 12:51:55 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEDGFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DB818.3CECCEF5@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:53:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:
>
> Alyce, go eat something for me, willya? ;)

OK. Maybe a donut hole.
>
> As of Monday, 89 lbs!!! Life goes on.

That is outstanding.

Sorry you had such a wretched experience with the bad person.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 06:43:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10642
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 06:43:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA885E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:49:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13077792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 12:55:20 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BGjKD08873 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:45:20 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6BGjKUh022188 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:45:20 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207111244540.2956-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:45:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEDGFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, S Hess wrote:

>If food still worked as an emotional crutch for me, I would have gained 10
>lbs in the last 12 hrs.

Good for you for taking care of yourself!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 06:49:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10663
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 06:49:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA8953@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:56:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13079646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:02:15 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BH2FD13314 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:02:15 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6BH2EG23244
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:02:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020710201138.00a379e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEOFFOAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <3D23626A.AC0246B2@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020710225050.01dccd10@mail.istori.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DBBC1.CFC75F42@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:09:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Kaminski wrote:
>
> Bookrat writes,
>
> >I'm not up for coordinating this, but I'd be happy to volunteer Pete K. to
> >do the Photoshoppery. :-)
>
> Thanks, Boo!  Send 'em in via attachment or URL.  Karen, can you provide a
> photo of the venue?

We could all be her boat that doesn't float for a fest that didn't get
off the ground.  :-)

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 06:58:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10681
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 06:58:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00114883@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:10:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13080323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:10:25 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BHAPD14676 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:10:25 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ30052AH1CV7@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:10:25 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020709212908.838A97CDE@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2B5C57.152D505C@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <v03130307b95293a81ec9@[198.144.202.197]>
Message-ID:  <3D2DBBA7.6010701@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:08:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bookrat wrote:

>>>You want to meet RNH?  Not me.
>>>
>>>
>>Meanie.  You'll make him cry.
>>
>
>>Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>>
>
> I would love to meet the RNH.  I want to meet the guy in charge of all the
> SBC golems.  Plus, maybe he could do something about the fact that my DSL
> link is as likely to be down as it is up.
>


I'm afraid that he's in the 800 center, not DSL.  My DSL is
just as likely to be flakey and mis-billed.  Last month they
billed us for a phone number change, which was just plain
bizarre.

He can tell you why your DSL is down, though.  Usually it is
because a piece of hardware has died, and it takes several
hours for everybody to blame shift until finally they figure
out who is in charge of fixing it.  Please note that this
blame shifting must be done at 3am via pager.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 07:02:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10694
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 07:02:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA8B0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:09:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13080840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:15:08 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BHF8D15759 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:15:08 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc58 ([204.127.198.47]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020711171502.VUVC6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:15:02 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc58; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:14:49 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020711171502.VUVC6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:14:49 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Obviously then you have not lost your ability to
>shed tears, I mean physically.  Sounds to me though
>as if you have shut off your feelings.  Many people
>sometimes isolate themselves in their intellect because
>they choose not to feel.  It's a dry and lonely place.

No denying, I definitely taught myself not to cry. When
or exactly why is a mystery. It took a long time for me
to notice this too. Occasionally I'm frustrated at not
being able to cry and experience the emotional release
that comes with it.

What I find odd is the timing of this. I could see if it
happened when I was younger, when things were more
difficult and crying only seemed to make them worse.

My adult life is a good one. It's all the things I wanted
it to be. Not everything happened quite the way I thought
it would but for the most part I have everything I always
wanted (and I'm not talking material).

Workouts and occasional outbursts seemed to have replaced
crying.

Oh well I suppose I'll figure it out, like I usually do,
in due time.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 07:06:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10701
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 07:06:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00114964@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:18:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13081016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:19:00 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BHIxD16131 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:19:00 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc55 ([204.127.198.44]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020711171854.BLVR29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:18:54 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc55; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:18:53 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020711171854.BLVR29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:18:53 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>> Much to my relief floodgates reopened for a short yet
>> strong period of tear flow this past weekend. It felt
>> good but once it was over I knew it wasn't the rebirth of
>> my ability to cry.

>It will come back.
>Betty

Yeah, I hope so. There are some things I need to do and
I'd really like to get past them. Crying would probably help.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 07:10:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10708
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 07:10:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA8BB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:16:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13081274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:22:25 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BHMPD16714 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:22:25 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc69 ([204.127.198.52]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020711172220.BQDB29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:22:20 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc69; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:22:19 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020711172220.BQDB29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:22:19 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I just wanted you all to know I received my BatFest shirt
on Monday... at least I think it was Monday. This week
has gone by so quickly I can't even remember now.

My gf doesn't quite understand it. She thought I got it
because her nickname from me is fang and it has bats on
it. I explained the bats and she walked away
disappointed. It's probably been lumped into the, "weird
things lisa does in her computer geek life" category.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 07:13:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10782
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 07:13:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00114A01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:25:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13081464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:25:28 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BHPSD17076 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:25:28 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020711172522.OBUP8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:25:22 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D2CE915.12583.1506A28@localhost> <b7.233c36ac.2a5ecb76@aol.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020711093057.0208e040@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:21:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020711082900.00a06020@pop3.norton.antivirus>

bonniev writes,

>You might also want to look for a vacuum cleaner with a good HEPA
>filter.  It takes all the nasties out of your household air.

Or perhaps more importantly, doesn't put new nasties in your air.

The last two vacuums we've bought have been Eurekas, the most recent HEPA,
and I've liked them very much.

If I were shopping, I'd also look at Oreck, because they market well, and
at Dyson <http://www.dyson.co.uk/>, because James Dyson invented the
bagless Cyclone technology, then had to fight Hoover over patent
infringement.  Dyson hasn't made it to the States yet, but may soon (e.g.,
"This [Hoover WindTunnel Upright Bagless U5755-900] vacuum is supported by
hype, not its quality, and you should consider getting a Bagged Windtunnel,
a Eureka Whirlwind ULTRA 4885AT, or a Dyson dual cyclonic bagless when they
hit the U.S. market this year." <http://www.epinions.com/content_61340552836>).

On a quick visit, the Oreck site is pretty boring; the Dyson site is pretty
cool.  And the technical explanation about Dyson Cyclones vs. other vacuums
is pretty compelling.

Fantom Technologies vacuums were built using Dyson's technology, but Fantom
recently went bankrupt and now has new owners.  It seems like people liked
the Fantom vacuums, but they had some durability problems.

If you're looking for Home Defense in a vacuum, here's a funky little
company: <http://www.air-storm.com/refs.html>.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 07:21:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10810
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 07:21:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA8D01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:28:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13082110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:34:11 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe15.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.119]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BHYAD18488 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:34:10 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 10:34:05 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
References:  <20020711171502.VUVC6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2002 17:34:05.0333 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[2772B450:01C22901]
Message-ID:  <OE15cVnT2O0btfC1SMr00009e47@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:33:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> No denying, I definitely taught myself not to cry.

I stopped crying after my mother died. I felt something like scar tissue
grow over the emotional center that tears come from. I recall a definite
sense of hardening. For a week I did nothing but cry, then I willed myself
not to cry at the memorial service. Something happened to me then, and it's
never changed 8 years later.

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 07:35:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10907
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 07:35:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA8E65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:42:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13083147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:48:08 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6BHm8D21005 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          13:48:08 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JRU01539; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:48:07 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KBX04467; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:48:05 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020711082900.00a06020@pop3.norton.antivirus>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D2D385F.21087.28622E5@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:48:47 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020711093057.0208e040@mail.istori.com>

On 11 Jul 2002 at 10:21, Peter Kaminski wrote:

> The last two vacuums we've bought have been Eurekas, the most
> recent HEPA, and I've liked them very much.

[Etc.]

Thanks for some interesting suggestions that I would not have known about
otherwise.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 07:37:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10914
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 07:37:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA8EB2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:44:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13083387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:50:01 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6BHo0D21472 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          13:50:00 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6BHo0205036 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          13:50:00 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEDKFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:49:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2DB818.3CECCEF5@valstar.net>

> S Hess wrote:
> >
> > Alyce, go eat something for me, willya? ;)
>
> OK. Maybe a donut hole.
> >
> > As of Monday, 89 lbs!!! Life goes on.
>
> That is outstanding.
>
> Sorry you had such a wretched experience with the bad person.
>
> alyce

Me too. But, it would have been worse if I'd overlooked the nature of his
character, or lack thereof. This is ultimately better. And this CASA
business gives me something to focus on and gets me out of my little world.

Have two on me!!! Yum.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 07:44:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10918
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 07:44:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA8F84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:51:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13084013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:56:29 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BHuTD22955 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:56:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9208E7EE4; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:56:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711175625.9208E7EE4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:56:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Not yet...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D994F.5020401@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 11,
              2002  9:42:23 am"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Betty said:
> >>I just would not be interested in meeting someone's husband that I don't
> >>know. What would we talk about? I guess I could ask him if he would know
> >>what to put in Ana's lunch.
> >>
> >
> > We'd talk about Rita and his boat and living in Missouri and his job
> > and being unemployed and... and... LOTS OF STUFF!
>
>
>
>         My god!  You're soulmates! :)

Well, I'm pretty good at making conversation with strangers, that's
all... And we do cover a fair amount of common ground.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 07:45:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10930
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 07:45:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00114D77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:58:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13084285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:58:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BHw0D23411 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:58:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 40F547F96; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 10:57:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711175759.40F547F96@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:57:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D9F7F.22C49EE8@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 11,
              2002 11: 8:47 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > But she knows my propensity for bright colors.
>
> I have heard you mention bright wearing apparel. I reiterate Plain.
> Dull.

I know. I just got back from shopping--no luck. I kept finding nice,
colorful things.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 07:49:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10935
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 07:49:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA905E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:55:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13084652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:01:23 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BI1ND24241 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:01:23 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ300DOBJEAVV@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:01:22 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D2CE915.12583.1506A28@localhost> <b7.233c36ac.2a5ecb76@aol.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020711093057.0208e040@mail.istori.com>
Message-ID:  <3D2DC799.5060805@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:59:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Kaminski wrote:


> "This [Hoover WindTunnel Upright Bagless U5755-900] vacuum is supported by
> hype, not its quality, and you should consider getting a Bagged Windtunnel,
> a Eureka Whirlwind ULTRA 4885AT, or a Dyson dual cyclonic bagless when they
> hit the U.S. market this year."
> <http://www.epinions.com/content_61340552836>).


I saw the Hoover get returned a lot for problems. I wouldn't
buy one.



> Fantom Technologies vacuums were built using Dyson's technology, but Fantom
> recently went bankrupt and now has new owners.  It seems like people liked
> the Fantom vacuums, but they had some durability problems.


I have a Fantom, which I bought refurbished from a discount
chain for about $70 (I think they normally retailed around
$150).  It is a very good vacuum cleaner, but after three or
four years, mine is starting to look bad, ie. things are
falling off it.  It also has a tendency to clog up.

Even though I only have one carpet, I went for a vacuum that
was best for carpet, not floors.  I figure I can sweep and
wash floors, but if the vacuum can't clean my carpet, I'd
end up spending the money on Stanley Steemer.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 07:57:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10952
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 07:57:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA91A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:04:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13085405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:09:52 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BI9qD25860 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:09:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1822B8087; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 11:09:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711180945.1822B8087@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:09:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Costa Rica
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207110826560.30172-100000@idiom.com> from Sharon
              Ziperovich at "Jul 11, 2002  8:27:55 am"

Sharon Ziperovich said:
> On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, steph wrote:
> > Don't go to Costa Rica, as it's full of everyone's friends,
> > father-in-laws and brothers.  Go someplace else.
> >
> > steph
> >
>
> Okay.  Where would you go?

Belize.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 07:58:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10959
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 07:58:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00114F25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:11:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13085486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:11:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BIB8D26057 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:11:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CD1E78099; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 11:11:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711181107.CD1E78099@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:11:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4EE14297.2A2EE16C.0099AB05@netscape.net> from jbh at "Jul 11,
              2002 12:35:11 pm"

jbh said:
> Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:
>
> >Last night I got two invitations to birthday parties. Adult birthday
> >parties.
> >
> >One is at a water park (Schlitterbahn) and one is at a local mansion,
> >"Austin's premier location for weddings, receptions and other
> >distinctive occasions". (But the website spells the name of the rugs
> >as Kierman--which I think is wrong.)
> >
> It is: Kerman.  I've actually been there and did a major story for the Tehran Journal on the renovation of the bazaar, ca. 1974.  Wonder what happened?

I think I've always seen it Kirman.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 08:00:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10990
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 08:00:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA926B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:07:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13085852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:13:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BID4D26626 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:13:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 12CF07E53; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 11:13:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711181304.12CF07E53@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:13:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2DBBC1.CFC75F42@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 11,
              2002 10: 9:21 am"

Betty said:
> Peter Kaminski wrote:
> >
> > Bookrat writes,
> >
> > >I'm not up for coordinating this, but I'd be happy to volunteer Pete K. to
> > >do the Photoshoppery. :-)
> >
> > Thanks, Boo!  Send 'em in via attachment or URL.  Karen, can you provide a
> > photo of the venue?
>
> We could all be her boat that doesn't float for a fest that didn't get
> off the ground.  :-)

Oh, twist the knife some more, Betty!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 08:09:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11033
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 08:09:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA938F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:16:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13086671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:21:51 -0400
Received: from fido.kiva.net (fido.kiva.net [216.9.137.65]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6BILpD28440 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:21:51 -0400
Received: (qmail 28107 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2002 18:21:50 -0000
Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by fido.kiva.net with SMTP; 11
          Jul 2002 18:21:50 -0000
Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id E3DB534F11; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:21:50 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix)
          with ESMTP id E2EF82D643 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul
          2002 13:21:50 -0500 (EST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207111312250.14476-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:21:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tom Lee <flint@KIVA.NET>
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020711093057.0208e040@mail.istori.com>

        We once had a fellow come over and demonstrate a Kirby vacuum to
us.  Although very expensive, it looked like the sort of vacuum cleaner to
buy if you didn't plan on ever buying another vacuum cleaner again.  Metal
parts, powerful engine, lots of attachments and gadgets.

        Unfortunately to prove his point he dumped sand onto one section
of our bedroom carpet, and although he repeatedly vacuumed out as much as
he could, he was still sucking out sand by the time he finally quit,
leading me to believe there was still some in there.  He dumped the sand,
we used our vacuum on it, and then he used the Kirby on it, to show us how
much our vacuum left behind.  Then he vacuumed it again with the Kirby,
showing us how much the Kirby left behind, which might not have been a
wise move.  He kept trying, but there was always more sand.  I am never
letting a vacuum cleaner salesman dump anything on our carpet again.

        What's more, he gave that bedroom carpet a good vacuuming before
he left, and I think he stirred up dust and pollen that had lain dormant
for ages, because my wife and I had increased allergy problems for months
after this.  To be fair, if we had always vacuumed the carpet with
something that powerful, that dust and pollen wouldn't have been there for
him to stir up, and the problem would probably have cleared up if we had
bought and started regularly using one of these suckers.  But we couldn't
afford it.  They never tell you how much it costs until they're done with
their spiel.

--
Take care,
Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
Unenthusiastic vacuumer

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Peter Kaminski wrote:

> bonniev writes,
>
> >You might also want to look for a vacuum cleaner with a good HEPA
> >filter.  It takes all the nasties out of your household air.
>
> Or perhaps more importantly, doesn't put new nasties in your air.
>
> The last two vacuums we've bought have been Eurekas, the most recent HEPA,
> and I've liked them very much.
>
> If I were shopping, I'd also look at Oreck, because they market well, and
> at Dyson <http://www.dyson.co.uk/>, because James Dyson invented the
> bagless Cyclone technology, then had to fight Hoover over patent
> infringement.  Dyson hasn't made it to the States yet, but may soon (e.g.,
> "This [Hoover WindTunnel Upright Bagless U5755-900] vacuum is supported by
> hype, not its quality, and you should consider getting a Bagged Windtunnel,
> a Eureka Whirlwind ULTRA 4885AT, or a Dyson dual cyclonic bagless when they
> hit the U.S. market this year." <http://www.epinions.com/content_61340552836>).
>
> On a quick visit, the Oreck site is pretty boring; the Dyson site is pretty
> cool.  And the technical explanation about Dyson Cyclones vs. other vacuums
> is pretty compelling.
>
> Fantom Technologies vacuums were built using Dyson's technology, but Fantom
> recently went bankrupt and now has new owners.  It seems like people liked
> the Fantom vacuums, but they had some durability problems.
>
> If you're looking for Home Defense in a vacuum, here's a funky little
> company: <http://www.air-storm.com/refs.html>.
>
> Pete
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 08:11:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11040
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 08:11:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA93CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:18:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13086873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:24:17 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6BIOHD28996 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          14:24:17 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JRW00231; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:24:14 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KBZ01254; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:24:11 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D2D40D5.14505.2A7300B@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:24:53 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2DC799.5060805@swbell.net>

On 11 Jul 2002 at 12:59, Rita Chapman wrote:

> I saw the Hoover get returned a lot for problems. I wouldn't
> buy one.

It's good to know this. Thanks.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 08:21:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11055
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 08:21:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA94A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:28:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13087496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:33:55 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BIXtD30353 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:33:55 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc70 ([204.127.198.53]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020711183350.EUSP29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:33:50 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc70; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:33:48 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020711183350.EUSP29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:33:48 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Anybody else like Radiohead?

I don't own any of their stuff but I like the songs that
got air play.

lisa

> On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Rashmi Murthy wrote:
>
> > PS for Ann: This is not a recommendation to run out and buy these
> > CDs. Doubt I could listen to a complete album by any of them.
>
> Anybody else like Radiohead?
>
> Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 08:28:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11071
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 08:28:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9558@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:34:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13087922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:40:24 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BIeKD31442 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:40:20 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust63.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.65]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003851971@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:40:19 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711175759.40F547F96@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DD17D.EA4331D6@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:42:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> I know. I just got back from shopping--no luck. I kept finding nice,
> colorful things.

Isn't there such a thing in Texas as a beige or white shirt and skirt?
Are you looking in the right place?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 08:29:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11078
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 08:29:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9571@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:36:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13088018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:41:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BIfPD31683 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:41:26 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8B6CC81DB; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 11:41:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711184120.8B6CC81DB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:41:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D40D5.14505.2A7300B@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 11, 2002  8:24:53 am"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 11 Jul 2002 at 12:59, Rita Chapman wrote:
> > I saw the Hoover get returned a lot for problems. I wouldn't
> > buy one.
>
> It's good to know this. Thanks.

I'm still using the one I bought in Honolulu in 1978. It's a tank.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 08:33:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11091
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 08:33:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00115327@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:45:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13088325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:45:21 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BIjKD32563 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:45:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0A1F280E6; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 11:45:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711184517.0A1F280E6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:45:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2DD17D.EA4331D6@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 11,
              2002  2:42: 5 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I know. I just got back from shopping--no luck. I kept finding nice,
> > colorful things.
>
> Isn't there such a thing in Texas as a beige or white shirt and skirt?

Yes, but this type of outfit would look awful on me. Ideally, I need a
dress. Barring that, a tunic to wear with pants/skirt. I couldn't find
any of those.

> Are you looking in the right place?

I have no idea. I haven't bought any clothes like this since I've been
living here, and I went to the three places I know.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 08:36:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11095
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 08:35:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9631@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:42:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13088545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:48:18 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BImID00628 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:48:18 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ3005OMLKHWQ@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:48:17 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <7FA55A63.03A7D811.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2DD298.8080400@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:46:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

jbh wrote:


> Well, you're only a few years older than me, but it was about $300 a year at UGA in 1968 ($100 a quarter).  I have it on good authority, from the Bradster and Major Ingram that it was about the same here at UK.  It's now about $1700 a semester....
>
> jbh
>
>


Last semester my tuition at UMSL was about $3,000, and
everything just went up.  I'm not going to go full-time
anymore, so I don't know what it would be next semester were
I to do that.  My summer class came to just under $700, plus
$58 to park.





--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 08:36:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11106
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 08:36:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00115382@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:48:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13088598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:48:57 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BImvD00729 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:48:57 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ3005MMLLKWK@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:48:56 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020711184120.8B6CC81DB@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2DD2BF.2040804@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:47:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Michael E. Macmillan said:
>
>>On 11 Jul 2002 at 12:59, Rita Chapman wrote:
>>
>>>I saw the Hoover get returned a lot for problems. I wouldn't
>>>buy one.
>>>
>>It's good to know this. Thanks.
>>
>
> I'm still using the one I bought in Honolulu in 1978. It's a tank.
>


Oh my god.  I'm having the most intense deja vu right now.
Have we had this exact conversation?



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 08:39:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11110
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 08:39:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9682@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:45:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13088802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:51:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BIpLD01278 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:51:21 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 819E57C90; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 11:51:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711185120.819E57C90@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:51:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Consumer advice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2DD2BF.2040804@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 11,
              2002  1:47:27 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Michael E. Macmillan said:
> >
> >>On 11 Jul 2002 at 12:59, Rita Chapman wrote:
> >>
> >>>I saw the Hoover get returned a lot for problems. I wouldn't
> >>>buy one.
> >>>
> >>It's good to know this. Thanks.
> >>
> >
> > I'm still using the one I bought in Honolulu in 1978. It's a tank.
> >
>
>
> Oh my god.  I'm having the most intense deja vu right now.
> Have we had this exact conversation?

Oh, probably. I am not very original.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 08:42:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11119
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 08:42:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA96D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:49:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13089019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:54:32 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BIsVD01787 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:54:31 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust63.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.65]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005159416@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:53:33 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711184517.0A1F280E6@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DD496.7E16B7B8@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:55:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> alyce cresap said:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > I know. I just got back from shopping--no luck. I kept finding nice,
> > > colorful things.
> >
> > Isn't there such a thing in Texas as a beige or white shirt and skirt?
>
> Yes, but this type of outfit would look awful on me. Ideally, I need a
> dress. Barring that, a tunic to wear with pants/skirt. I couldn't find
> any of those.
>
> > Are you looking in the right place?
>
> I have no idea. I haven't bought any clothes like this since I've been
> living here, and I went to the three places I know.

Do you have Banana Republic? I got two dresses there long, long
ago--plain cotton tailored. It's been so long since I've bought clothes,
I don't even know the names of places anymore.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 08:42:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11126
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 08:42:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00115438@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:55:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13089080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:55:07 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BIt6D01948 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:55:06 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id VAA03833 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:55:05
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA03750 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 21:55:03 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DD46D.C5741004@akad.ee>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:54:38 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph:

> Why didn't you ask Kristin?  She's closer.

I agree with Espen's description of

> a <normal> climate in August.

Sandals are normal, bare feet and bare legs, too. Late at night, perhaps due
to dew, one may want something warmer. Like: in August I enjoy socks after
swimming in the evening, even if  otherwise I wouldn't wear them.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 08:43:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11130
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 08:43:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA96F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:50:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13089161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:56:06 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BIu5D02151 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:56:05 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id VAA04208 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:56:04
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA04125 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 21:56:03 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net> <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711141841.00b84668@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DD4A9.17A3C6F8@akad.ee>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:55:37 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:

>  it is further north than Oslo or
> Talinn

Tallinn

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 08:45:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11139
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 08:45:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9717@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:51:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13089258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:57:23 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BIvND02358 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:57:23 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0D7AC80CB; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 11:57:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711185722.0D7AC80CB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:57:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2DD496.7E16B7B8@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 11,
              2002  2:55:18 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > alyce cresap said:
> > > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > > I know. I just got back from shopping--no luck. I kept finding nice,
> > > > colorful things.
> > >
> > > Isn't there such a thing in Texas as a beige or white shirt and skirt?
> >
> > Yes, but this type of outfit would look awful on me. Ideally, I need a
> > dress. Barring that, a tunic to wear with pants/skirt. I couldn't find
> > any of those.
> >
> > > Are you looking in the right place?
> >
> > I have no idea. I haven't bought any clothes like this since I've been
> > living here, and I went to the three places I know.
>
> Do you have Banana Republic?

Yes.

> I got two dresses there long, long
> ago--plain cotton tailored. It's been so long since I've bought clothes,
> I don't even know the names of places anymore.

1) Banana Republic doesn't make clothes in my size and
2) Tailored clothes look terrible on me.

I have a squat, pudgy body, Alyce, and it's not easy finding clothes.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 08:45:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11143
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 08:45:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9720@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:52:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13089279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 14:57:48 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BIvmD02383 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:57:48 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id VAA04953 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:57:47
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA04787 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 21:57:44 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>
            <20020711140921.A6248@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D2D8335.4FD98D54@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DD50E.F13990A7@akad.ee>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:57:18 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

>  Also, I know that Espen has been to Joensuu, and I don't know
> whether Kristin has.

I have not.

>  And I know that Espen was online shortly before I
> asked the question.

He was.

>  I don't know what Kristin's schedule is right now.

erratic

Kr.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 08:53:44 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11163
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 08:53:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28033
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:58:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA97FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:59:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13089987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:04:53 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BJ4qD03840 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:04:52 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id WAA05798 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:04:51
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA05715 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 22:04:50 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net> <3D2DD46D.C5741004@akad.ee>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DD6B8.9214A599@akad.ee>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:04:24 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Kristin Sarv wrote:

>  Like: in August I enjoy socks after
> swimming in the evening,

Well, with tennis shoes, then, or something.

Kr.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 08:57:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11172
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 08:57:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9881@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:04:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13090404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:09:44 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6BJ9hD04792 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          15:09:43 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6BJ9h2235450 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul
          2002 15:09:43 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEEAFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:08:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711185722.0D7AC80CB@yellow.rahul.net>

> > I got two dresses there long, long
> > ago--plain cotton tailored. It's been so long since I've bought clothes,
> > I don't even know the names of places anymore.
>
> 1) Banana Republic doesn't make clothes in my size and
> 2) Tailored clothes look terrible on me.
>
> I have a squat, pudgy body, Alyce, and it's not easy finding clothes.
>
> Karen

Now I have a squat, more than pudgy body and I look best in tailored
clothes. I love the flowy, gauzy hippie look but it doesn't like me.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 09:02:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11189
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 09:02:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA990D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:09:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13090881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:14:33 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BJEXD05963 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:14:33 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ3005GEMS8WF@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:14:32 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
Message-ID:  <3D2DD8BF.6090006@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:13:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Faux Employment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I got my official student teaching placement letter today
stating that I'm employed at the school I did my internship
at during the spring.  I'm pretty sure my advisor doesn't
have hiring privs in the school district, and she's in South
Africa all summer.  LOL.  I have a call in to UMSL to see
what's up, because I haven't heard boo from the school
district about my application.

Dr. Zeni is wonderful and brilliant and all kinds of good
things, but she is driving me batty.


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 09:04:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11200
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 09:04:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA997D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:11:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13091159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:17:05 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BJH3D06741 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:17:03 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id WAA07735 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:17:02
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA07652 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 22:17:01 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711175759.40F547F96@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DD993.796ACE76@akad.ee>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:16:35 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> alyce cresap said:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > But she knows my propensity for bright colors.
> >
> > I have heard you mention bright wearing apparel. I reiterate Plain.
> > Dull.
>
> I know. I just got back from shopping--no luck. I kept finding nice,
> colorful things.

Plain sounds good, otoh, you must feel good and natural in your clothes.
And they also say that with bright colours on one makes other people see
her as an energetic, brave person. Mm.. a plain simple straight dress -
of the colour of red. Well, I'm not sure... Nobody knows whether the
interviewer wants to see a meek and humble person or vice versa. Not
bright red, then? Slightly terracota?

Anyway, that you feel good yourself is important, isn't it. So, if you
buy something new, you must like it yourself, too.

Toes crossed again -- but I haven't read the post yet where you first
mentioned this new interview. (Many unread msgs)

Kr.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 09:06:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11208
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 09:06:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001156D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:19:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13091445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:19:08 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BJJ7o07379 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:19:07 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id WAA07933 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:19:06
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA07849 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 22:19:05 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711133257.0962A8078@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DDA0F.3659D61A@akad.ee>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:18:39 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Shortening Days
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Natalie Maynor said:
> > I hate watching the days get shorter.
>
> Yes. I've been noticing that,  too.

No-o-o-o-o! Do not talk about it so early! I want to feel summer! It is
still the first half of July!

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 09:11:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11226
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 09:11:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9A47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:18:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13091811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:23:53 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BJNqo08485 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:23:52 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id WAA08614 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:23:51
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA08531 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 22:23:50 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020709235658.A1748@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DDB2C.5D398C5A@akad.ee>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:23:24 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: casualty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> steph
> damp in Amsterdam

:-(

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 09:12:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11233
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 09:12:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9A63@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:19:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13091883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:25:00 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BJP0o08685 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:25:00 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust63.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.65]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003853055@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:24:37 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711185722.0D7AC80CB@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DDBDC.A38E6E0C@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:26:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> I have a squat, pudgy body, Alyce, and it's not easy finding clothes.

Yes, I have heard you explain this, but not having seen for myself, I
imagine a short (not squat), slender (not pudgy)
person with fantastic abs from Pilates. You need to sew your own
clothes. But doing that by tomorrow would be tricky.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 09:30:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11279
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 09:30:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9BD7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:37:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13092904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:43:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BJh0o11655 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:43:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B75017DFE; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 12:42:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711194256.B75017DFE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:42:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEEAFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 11, 2002 12: 8:56 pm"

S Hess said:
> Now I have a squat, more than pudgy body and I look best in tailored
> clothes. I love the flowy, gauzy hippie look but it doesn't like me.

Most of my clothes are very simple, but I can't wear a notched collar
at all, and that is often a feature of tailored clothing.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 09:32:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11283
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 09:32:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9C12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:39:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13093101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:45:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BJj2o12116 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:45:03 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 179E9804C; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 12:45:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711194502.179E9804C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:45:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2DD993.796ACE76@akad.ee> from Kristin Sarv at "Jul 11,
              2002 10:16:35 pm"

Kristin Sarv said:
> Mm.. a plain simple straight dress -
> of the colour of red. Well, I'm not sure... Nobody knows whether the
> interviewer wants to see a meek and humble person or vice versa. Not
> bright red, then? Slightly terracota?

Alyce and Lydia say no bright colors. I didn't see any simple straight
dresses that weren't polyester.

> Anyway, that you feel good yourself is important, isn't it. So, if you
> buy something new, you must like it yourself, too.

Yes, that's crucial.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 09:33:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11290
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 09:33:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9C25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:40:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13093141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:46:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BJk0o12268 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:46:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 351047DC6; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 12:46:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711194600.351047DC6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:46:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2DDBDC.A38E6E0C@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 11,
              2002  3:26:20 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I have a squat, pudgy body, Alyce, and it's not easy finding clothes.
>
> Yes, I have heard you explain this, but not having seen for myself, I
> imagine a short (not squat), slender (not pudgy)
> person with fantastic abs from Pilates. You need to sew your own
> clothes. But doing that by tomorrow would be tricky.

As in, impossible. But I agree with your point.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 09:34:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11294
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 09:34:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9C39@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:41:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13093190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:46:55 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BJkto12436 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:46:55 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc58 ([204.127.198.47]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020711194649.CGAA6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:46:49 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc58; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:46:48 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020711194649.CGAA6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:46:48 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>There was pizza in New Haven in 1955 I know.
>Espen

There was pizza in New Haven in 1925. This according to
the sign for Frank Pepe Pizzeria on Wooster Street.

Tina and I ate there last Saturday. The last time I'd
been to Pepe's was for a wordsler gathering. Not only
were the wordslers missing but so was the clam pizza (for
some reason they weren't serving it that night).

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 09:36:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11299
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 09:35:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001159C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:48:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13093304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:48:16 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BJmGo12710 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:48:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8A4BD80B2; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 12:48:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711194814.8A4BD80B2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:48:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711194649.CGAA6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58> from Lisa
              Alfieri at "Jul 11, 2002  7:46:48 pm"

Lisa Alfieri said:
> >There was pizza in New Haven in 1955 I know.
> >Espen
>
> There was pizza in New Haven in 1925. This according to
> the sign for Frank Pepe Pizzeria on Wooster Street.
>
> Tina and I ate there last Saturday. The last time I'd
> been to Pepe's was for a wordsler gathering. Not only
> were the wordslers missing but so was the clam pizza (for
> some reason they weren't serving it that night).

Ow! Severe nostalgia attack.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 09:37:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11303
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 09:37:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9C8B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:43:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13092661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:49:29 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f86.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.86]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BJdTo10955 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:39:29 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 12:39:24 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 19:39:23 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2002 19:39:24.0085 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A8F93650:01C22912]
Message-ID:  <F86CgyFU3mCHxgSBV0q0000a543@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:39:23 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lisa:
>No denying, I definitely taught myself not to cry.

I've always been rather sparing (and private) with tears. Haven't
cried in years.

I'm going to get slammed for this - I'm suspicious of (public)
tears. All those guys on teevee - politicians, athletes - POTUS,
the Rams ex-coach etc. that seem to get teary-eyed at the drop of
a hat annoy the heck out of me. I find it totally fake. I cannot
empathize with it.

Even Letterman, my hero, got misty-eyed with Ted Koppel the other
night. I don't get it.

-rashmi, the hard-hearted






_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 09:38:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11307
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 09:38:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9CAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:45:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13092715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:50:31 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f21.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BJeVo11174 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:40:31 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 12:40:25 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 19:40:25 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2002 19:40:25.0785 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[CDBFE290:01C22912]
Message-ID:  <F21feIQR3xgT09KVuac0000a4d9@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:40:25 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann and steph:
>= Anybody else like Radiohead?

Depends on what era we're talking about. Their recent albums are
completely different from the old ones. I like The Bends and OK
Computer. What'd you get?

In any case I love "Creep" and therefore lose cred points among
genuine Radiohead faithful.

>of "Radiohead was a good band until ... decided to stop singing"
>where the dots are filled in with the singers name, only I'm not
>going to look it up right now.

Thom Yorke ? I agree with this assessment.

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 09:41:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11314
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 09:41:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9D12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:48:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13093846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:53:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BJrVo14035 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:53:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5515A80B0; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 12:53:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711195330.5515A80B0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:53:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F86CgyFU3mCHxgSBV0q0000a543@hotmail.com> from Rashmi Murthy at
              "Jul 11, 2002  7:39:23 pm"

Rashmi Murthy said:
> I'm going to get slammed for this - I'm suspicious of (public)
> tears. All those guys on teevee - politicians, athletes - POTUS,
> the Rams ex-coach etc. that seem to get teary-eyed at the drop of
> a hat annoy the heck out of me. I find it totally fake. I cannot
> empathize with it.
>
> Even Letterman, my hero, got misty-eyed with Ted Koppel the other
> night. I don't get it.
>
> -rashmi, the hard-hearted

I cry all the time. I cried when Tony called me (he was the
first). It's a way of dealing quickly with a surplus of emotion. I
cry more when I'm angry or frustrated than I do when I'm sad.


Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 09:47:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11341
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 09:47:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00115B0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:59:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13094371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:59:53 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BJxrQ15234 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:59:53 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6BJxq7Y393725 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          15:59:53 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <003f01c22915$85f03840$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:59:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2DD496.7E16B7B8@valstar.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of alyce cresap
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 2:55 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
>
>
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > alyce cresap said:
> > > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > > I know. I just got back from shopping--no luck. I kept
> finding nice,
> > > > colorful things.
> > >
> > > Isn't there such a thing in Texas as a beige or white
> shirt and skirt?
> >
> > Yes, but this type of outfit would look awful on me.
> Ideally, I need a
> > dress. Barring that, a tunic to wear with pants/skirt. I
> couldn't find
> > any of those.
> >
> > > Are you looking in the right place?
> >
> > I have no idea. I haven't bought any clothes like this
> since I've been
> > living here, and I went to the three places I know.
>
> Do you have Banana Republic? I got two dresses there long, long
> ago--plain cotton tailored. It's been so long since I've
> bought clothes,
> I don't even know the names of places anymore.
>
> alyce
>

Dress Barn, JC Penneys, Lane Bryant, Avenue, Fashion Bug assuming you
are still a 16 or larger. If not, I have not a clue.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 09:54:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11353
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 09:54:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9E90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:01:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13095024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:06:56 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BK6tQ16646 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:06:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6342C804E; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:06:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711200650.6342C804E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:06:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <003f01c22915$85f03840$48305b80@EAGLE72> from "Alec D. Plotkin"
              at "Jul 11, 2002  3:59:53 pm"

Alec D. Plotkin said:
> Dress Barn, JC Penneys, Lane Bryant, Avenue, Fashion Bug assuming you
> are still a 16 or larger. If not, I have not a clue.

Thanks, Alec.:) I went to the last 3.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:01:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11376
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:01:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9EF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:08:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13095318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:14:02 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f241.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.241]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKE1Q17673 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:14:02 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 13:13:56 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 20:13:55 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2002 20:13:56.0468 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[7C35C340:01C22917]
Message-ID:  <F241JIc0y82gv5Gmz8P0000e41b@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:13:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
> > (hi, alec!)
> >
>Hi, Marie,
>
>Why did I get a hi? Am I special or just paranoid. I know I am both.

You are <special>.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:03:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11380
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:03:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00115CA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:15:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13095397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:15:16 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f85.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.85]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKFGQ17903 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:15:16 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 13:15:10 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 20:15:10 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2002 20:15:10.0566 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A8603860:01C22917]
Message-ID:  <F85ctOXTPHyTVLi79cl0000e186@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:15:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel and unsending emails
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > Yeah, it dawned on me after I hit the send key.
> > Anyone have days when wish you could unsend emails?
>
>I've probably had more than anyone.

In Outlook you can recall messages, but I don't know if it works for
distribution lists.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:04:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11384
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:04:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9F2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:11:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13095471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:16:56 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKGtQ18102 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:16:55 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6BKLOW07432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:21:24
          +0200
References: <003f01c22915$85f03840$48305b80@EAGLE72>
            <20020711200650.6342C804E@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020711222123.A7418@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:21:23 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711200650.6342C804E@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 01:06:50PM -0700

On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 01:06:50PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
= Alec D. Plotkin said:
= > Dress Barn, JC Penneys, Lane Bryant, Avenue, Fashion Bug assuming you
= > are still a 16 or larger. If not, I have not a clue.
=
= Thanks, Alec.:) I went to the last 3.
=
= Karen

Look what marriage has done to him!  Give him some time and he'll
be stiff competition for Adam.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:04:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11388
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:04:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9F2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:11:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13095481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:17:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKGxQ18129 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:16:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D89C8801D; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:16:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711201658.D89C8801D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:16:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel and unsending emails
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F85ctOXTPHyTVLi79cl0000e186@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 11, 2002  4:15:10 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > > Yeah, it dawned on me after I hit the send key.
> > > Anyone have days when wish you could unsend emails?
> >
> >I've probably had more than anyone.
>
> In Outlook you can recall messages, but I don't know if it works for
> distribution lists.

Only if you have a very sloooooooow mail server. I've sent stuff to
long lists of people only to have to recall the message; about half of
'em get it anyway.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:05:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11392
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:05:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9F4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:12:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13095603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:18:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKI8Q18445 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:18:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 56BC880C0; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:18:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711201807.56BC880C0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:18:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711222123.A7418@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul 11,
              2002 10:21:23 pm"

steph said:
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 01:06:50PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> = Alec D. Plotkin said:
> = > Dress Barn, JC Penneys, Lane Bryant, Avenue, Fashion Bug assuming you
> = > are still a 16 or larger. If not, I have not a clue.
> =
> = Thanks, Alec.:) I went to the last 3.
> =
> = Karen
>
> Look what marriage has done to him!  Give him some time and he'll
> be stiff competition for Adam.

Adam???? Adam doesn't know where to shop for women's clothes. (But
yes, I thought this was very sweet, that Alec knew.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:06:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11400
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:06:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9F70@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:13:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13095715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:18:40 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f43.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.43]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKIdQ18670 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:18:40 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 13:18:34 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 20:18:34 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2002 20:18:34.0510 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[21EF9AE0:01C22918]
Message-ID:  <F43Y60mJWEsBk31TZ1400010cfa@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:18:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel and unsending emails
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>In Outlook you can recall messages, but I don't know if it works for
>distribution lists.

Please tell me how to do this!

-a

_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:06:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11404
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:06:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9F75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:13:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13095742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:18:48 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKImQ18736 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:18:48 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6BKIm7Y367708 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          16:18:48 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <004001c22918$2a8b6e90$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:18:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711222123.A7418@yoccoz.multinix.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of steph
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 4:21 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 01:06:50PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> = Alec D. Plotkin said:
> = > Dress Barn, JC Penneys, Lane Bryant, Avenue, Fashion Bug
> assuming you
> = > are still a 16 or larger. If not, I have not a clue.
> =
> = Thanks, Alec.:) I went to the last 3.
> =
> = Karen
>
> Look what marriage has done to him!  Give him some time and he'll
> be stiff competition for Adam.
>
> steph
>

When you pay the bills, you learn the stores names.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:07:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11408
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:07:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9F83@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:13:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13095791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:19:21 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f276.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.151]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKJKQ18885 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:19:20 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 13:19:15 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 20:19:15 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2002 20:19:15.0275 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[3A3BD9B0:01C22918]
Message-ID:  <F276umViHmvqI66MzMS0000c862@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:19:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>Marie Ascher said:
> > Then again, if you have bags, just pour the broth right in and freeze it
>in
> > the bag.
>
>Can you really do this by yourself?! I am impress at your
>coordination. If I tried this, I'd end up in the emergency room.

You could first let it cool a bit to not burn yourself, and then use another
pot to catch the overflow. Many larger sized bags have a bottom that allows
them to stand up while you pour into them. (I think I recall using such a
bag).

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:07:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11412
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:07:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9F8B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:14:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13095824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:20:00 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKK0Q19009 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:20:00 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6BKJx7Y380326 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          16:20:00 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <004101c22918$550cc790$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:20:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel and unsending emails
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F43Y60mJWEsBk31TZ1400010cfa@hotmail.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Anne Toal
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 4:19 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: speaking of travel and unsending emails
>
>
> >In Outlook you can recall messages, but I don't know if it works for
> >distribution lists.
>
> Please tell me how to do this!
>
> -a
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
>

Recall or replace a message you've already sent
This feature requires Microsoft Exchange.

You can recall or replace a message only if its recipient is logged on
and using Microsoft Outlook and has not read the message or moved it
from their Inbox.

If the Folder List is not visible, click the View menu, and then click
Folder List.
Click Sent Items.
Open the message you want to recall or replace.
On the Actions menu, click Recall This Message.
Do one of the following:
Recall the message

Click Delete unread copies of this message.
To be notified about the success of the recall or replacement for each
recipient, select the Tell me if recall succeeds or fails for each
recipient check box.
Replace the message

Click Delete unread copies and replace with a new message.

Click OK, and then type a new message.

To be notified about the success of the recall or replacement for each
recipient, select the Tell me if recall succeeds or fails for each
recipient check box.

Note   To replace a message, you must send a new one. If you do not send
the new item, the original message is still recalled.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:08:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11416
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:08:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9F94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:15:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13095841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:20:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKKcQ19060 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:20:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1770180C2; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:20:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711202037.1770180C2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:20:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: for karen and steph
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F276umViHmvqI66MzMS0000c862@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 11, 2002  4:19:15 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> You could first let it cool a bit to not burn yourself, and then use another
> pot to catch the overflow. Many larger sized bags have a bottom that allows
> them to stand up while you pour into them. (I think I recall using such a
> bag).

Okay. I still need two hands for the stockpot and two for the bag.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:09:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11420
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:09:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9FB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:16:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13095931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:22:08 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKM8Q19271 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:22:08 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc55 ([204.127.198.44]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020711202203.VCIY8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:22:03 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc55; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:22:00 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020711202203.VCIY8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:22:00 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>This reminds me: Lydia said No Open-Toed Shoes.

>What do y'all think? This interview will require more
>dressy clothes than most interviewing I do, because I'm
>interviewing several layers further up the food chain
>than I normally do.

An article I year over a year ago said the climate of
interviews was starting to change back to more formal
attire. Men and women were going back to dark suits.

When I lost my job last August I interviewed not in skirt
suits, which I'd done earlier in my career but in what I
guess would be considered business casual. I wore lined,
dry clean only pants and tailors shirts. I do own one
summer pants suit and I think I wore that once or twice.

The candidates who come in to interview are primarily
wearing suits. Occasionally someone comes in dressed a
bit more casually but that's rare, even for second, third
and fourth interviews (I am the only person they've hired
who only had to come in once.. I was here for 4+ hours
but I didn't have to come back).

Despite what the culture might be once you get the job,
I'd say to go wearing your best duds, shoes included.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:11:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11424
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:11:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EA9FE4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:18:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13096078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:23:52 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f115.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.115]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKNqQ19493 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:23:52 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 13:23:46 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 20:23:46 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2002 20:23:46.0726 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[DC07FC60:01C22918]
Message-ID:  <F115JA2tKWcag1k39iy00000ffc@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:23:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
>Yours survived?

No, but when I see the same ones in thrift stores they make me all tingly.

Actually, my mother used an old Holly Hobbie lunchbox of my as her "coupon
box" for years. I also had I think two Peanuts lunchboxes, and a Scooby Doo.
I also sometimes see a box which brings back a memory of an old friend.

The cool thing to do when I was in school
>was to toss your lunch box around the black top a bit so
>it was dented, scratched and dinged. No parent was ever
>thrilled about this, mine certainly wasn't but, as kids
>if your lunch box wasn't beat up, you were a nerd.

I think I was a nerd.
>
>lisa
>certainly not implying that Marie was a nerd

go ahead, hurt me...

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:14:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11428
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:14:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAA00C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:21:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13096193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:26:29 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKQTQ19815 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:26:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 68245804E; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:26:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711202628.68245804E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:26:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711202203.VCIY8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> from Lisa
              Alfieri at "Jul 11, 2002  8:22: 0 pm"

Lisa Alfieri said:
> Despite what the culture might be once you get the job,
> I'd say to go wearing your best duds, shoes included.

What I would consider my best duds are all brightly colored. And my
best shoes are probably my sandals.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:15:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11440
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:15:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAA023@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:22:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13096286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:27:57 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f51.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.51]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKRvQ20073 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:27:57 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 13:27:52 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 20:27:51 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2002 20:27:52.0246 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[6E5F5D60:01C22919]
Message-ID:  <F5135QykZG4HFIyrxmM0000e623@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:27:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
>BTW, Marie -- I bought my good running shoes today.

Good.

I've not been running since the pool opened. I thought I was swimming a half
mile a day, but it dawned on me looking at the pool one day that it looked
(and felt) like 25 meters rather than yards, which I've since confirmed. In
other words, I've been swimming a bit more, and I realize that timewise I
could probably fit in a whole mile quite regularly. I'm actually feeling
kind of <buff> in the shoulders, too.

But for now, I'm heading out for a weekend <down the shore> to work on my
freckles . Ya'll have a good one.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:25:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11474
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:25:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00115EA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:37:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13096758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:37:42 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKbgQ21525 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:37:42 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BKbdq23098
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:37:39 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711142241.A52D77FF9@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DEC90.14FF71C2@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:37:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > clothes. Or toes. You don't polish your toenails, do you? (In case you
> > wear sandals?)
>
> Dear god, no.

I always keep polish on toenails and fingernails.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:26:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11481
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:26:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00115EB5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:38:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13096783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:38:23 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKcNQ21619 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:38:23 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BKcKq23299
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:38:20 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711142416.9CE4D7FF9@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DECBA.1F8F4B0B@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:38:18 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> In the water park case, she's throwing it for herself. In the mansion

And expecting the guests to bring birthday presents?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:27:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11485
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:27:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAA0F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:34:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13096835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:39:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKdfQ21756 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:39:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DE2C381F4; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 13:39:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711203940.DE2C381F4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:39:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2DECBA.1F8F4B0B@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 11,
              2002  3:38:18 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > In the water park case, she's throwing it for herself. In the mansion
>
> And expecting the guests to bring birthday presents?

Does one ever *expect* guests to bring presents as an adult?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:27:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11489
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:27:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAA0FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:34:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13096844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:39:56 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKduQ21779 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:39:56 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BKdbq23711
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:39:39 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <7FA55A63.03A7D811.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DED07.DBC6D601@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:39:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

jbh wrote:

> Well, you're only a few years older than me, but it was about $300 a year at UGA in 1968 ($100 a quarter).  I have it on good authority, from the Bradster and Major Ingram that it was about the same here at UK.  It's now about $1700 a

At LSU it was free for residents of Louisiana.  I don't know whether
that's the case now.  I bet not.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:30:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11499
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:30:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAA132@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:36:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13096942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:42:16 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKgGQ22156 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:42:16 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BKgBq24545
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:42:11 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207111235070.2956-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DEDA0.FC3529DA@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:42:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> I find that sandals and socks often take care of cold feet.

Sandals of the socks-wearing kind are in the same category for me as
clogs.  That's not the kind of sandals I'm talking about for summer
wear.  And I'm having fun visualizing the strange sight I would make
wearing socks with the kinds of clothes I wear in summer -- the kind I
mentioned in my original posting on this subject.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:31:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11507
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:31:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00115F22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:43:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13097084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:43:36 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKhZQ22498 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:43:36 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6BKm4r07520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:48:04
          +0200
References: <20020711153151.B6481@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207110826560.30172-100000@idiom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020711224804.B7418@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:48:04 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Costa Rica
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207110826560.30172-100000@idiom.com>; from
              sharon@IDIOM.COM on Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 08:27:55AM -0700

=
= Okay.  Where would you go?
=
=  Sharon

Oh geez, anywhere.  There seem to be no American tourists in
Europe this summer.  I want to go to this vague south america,
but also India, Thailand, I don't know.  There's nothing wrong
with Costa Rica either, actually.  I was just being a pain in the
ass.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:38:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11522
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:38:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00115FCE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:50:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13097620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:50:37 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKobQ24195 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:50:37 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BKoPq27537
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:50:33 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net> <3D2DD46D.C5741004@akad.ee>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DEF8F.E5F32E9C@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:50:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Kristin Sarv wrote:

> Sandals are normal, bare feet and bare legs, too. Late at night, perhaps due
> to dew, one may want something warmer. Like: in August I enjoy socks after

Excellent.  Not being a late-night person, I will perhaps be able to
wear <normal> clothes the whole time.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:39:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11529
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:39:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAA236@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:46:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13097756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:51:30 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKpUQ24375 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:51:30 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BKpPq27898
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:51:26 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>
            <20020711140921.A6248@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D2D8335.4FD98D54@maynor.net> <3D2DD50E.F13990A7@akad.ee>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DEFCB.DDCCC364@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:51:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Kristin Sarv wrote:

> >  I don't know what Kristin's schedule is right now.
>
> erratic

When is it you're leaving on your trip?  I think I have July 22 stuck in
my mind for it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:46:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11541
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:46:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAA348@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:53:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13098635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:58:33 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKwXQ26128 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:58:33 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BKw5q00833
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:58:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F86CgyFU3mCHxgSBV0q0000a543@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DF15B.368B740A@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:58:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rashmi Murthy wrote:

> the Rams ex-coach etc. that seem to get teary-eyed at the drop of
> a hat annoy the heck out of me. I find it totally fake. I cannot
> empathize with it.

So things you can't empathize with are fake?  I've never assumed
headaches are fake just because I'm lucky enough not to be saddled with
that particular problem.  I have and always have been saddled with the
problem of tearing up at the drop of the hat.  It is extremely
embarrassing.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:47:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11545
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:47:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001160D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:59:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13097552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:59:26 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BKnPQ23935 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:49:25 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6BKnPUh018769 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:49:25 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207111645530.12511-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:49:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2DEDA0.FC3529DA@maynor.net>

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> I find that sandals and socks often take care of cold feet.
>
>Sandals of the socks-wearing kind are in the same category for me as
>clogs.  That's not the kind of sandals I'm talking about for summer
>wear.  And I'm having fun visualizing the strange sight I would make

I will probably spend some time looking at your feet in Finland - if our
paths cross. I almost ALWAYS wear socks with sandals (except at home,
wearing Arizonas). I do not wear clogs. What category holds both sandals
and clogs?

I wear Birkenstock sandals - and have since Bamberg.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 10:52:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11549
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 10:52:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001161BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:04:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13100127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 17:04:34 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BL4YQ27742 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:04:34 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BL4Sq03178
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:04:29 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711200650.6342C804E@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DF2D9.F64515AD@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:04:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Do most of you buy your clothes at smallish shops -- or maybe not
<smallish> -- shops that specialize in clothes?  All the clothes
shopping I do is at ordinary department stores (none of which exist in
Starkville, of course).  Naming the names of these stores wouldn't be
meaningful since they're not known out of this region -- McRae's,
Parisian, Dillards.  They're of a kind with Macy's.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 11:00:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11569
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 11:00:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAA62D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:07:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13100868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 17:13:07 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BLD7Q29814 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:13:07 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BLD5q06310
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:13:05 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F5135QykZG4HFIyrxmM0000e623@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DF4DB.20A23523@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:12:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

> other words, I've been swimming a bit more, and I realize that timewise I
> could probably fit in a whole mile quite regularly. I'm actually feeling

A good while back we were discussing how we count laps -- that I prefer
counting lengths (as in it's easier to count each length).  I'm not sure
whether I ever mentioned that at some point I decided there was no point
in counting anything.  I simply allot myself a certain amount of time
and swim however much fits into that time.  Normally it's thirty
minutes.  I do that because it fits my life to swim for that long.
Actually, I've had almost no swimming time at all in a long time now.
But I'm hoping that will change.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 11:01:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11573
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 11:01:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00116279@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:14:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13100924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 17:14:06 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6BLE6Q29957 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:14:06 -0400
Received: from wh12485741 (216.249.154.5) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex
          6.5.007) id 3D0A9704000F43AE for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:10:28 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000b01c22918$166ea8a0$059af9d8@murraystate.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:18:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I've always been rather sparing (and private) with tears. Haven't
cried in years.

>I'm going to get slammed for this - I'm suspicious of (public)
tears. All those guys on teevee - politicians, athletes - POTUS,
the Rams ex-coach etc. that seem to get teary-eyed at the drop of
a hat annoy the heck out of me. I find it totally fake. I cannot
empathize with it.

>Even Letterman, my hero, got misty-eyed with Ted Koppel the other
night. I don't get it.

>-rashmi, the hard-hearted

I'm with you.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 11:02:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11577
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 11:02:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAA648@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:09:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13100958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 17:15:05 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BLF5Q30140 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:15:05 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BLF3q06886
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:15:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711203940.DE2C381F4@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DF555.43BA9E27@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:15:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > And expecting the guests to bring birthday presents?
>
> Does one ever *expect* guests to bring presents as an adult?

I don't know.  I can't quite imagine deciding to have a birthday party
for myself and inviting people to it, saying that it's a birthday
party.  I guess if I did that, I would indeed expect people to bring
presents.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 11:06:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11581
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 11:06:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001162FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:19:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13101781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 17:19:01 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BLJ1Q31823 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:19:01 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BLIwq08123
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:18:59 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207111645530.12511-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DF640.41EEC322@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:18:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> I will probably spend some time looking at your feet in Finland - if our

Assuming I dress the way I do here in summer, which is what I'm now
leaning toward, I'll be wearing Madrids most of the time.

> paths cross. I almost ALWAYS wear socks with sandals (except at home,
> wearing Arizonas). I do not wear clogs. What category holds both sandals
> and clogs?

Winter informal holds sock-sandals and clogs.  I consider Arizonas
definitely sock sandals.  I realize that they can be worn without socks,
but I never do that.  At this time of year my Arizonas are stored with
my clogs at the back of my closet.  They'll come out again in winter.

> I wear Birkenstock sandals - and have since Bamberg.

I also wear Birkenstock sandals -- and have since 1980.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 11:13:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11588
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 11:13:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAA797@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:19:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13102372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 17:25:16 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BLPGQ01080 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:25:16 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BLPDq09727
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:25:13 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DF7B7.9CD9510@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:25:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Madrids
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

What a terrible picture.  The white one is clear enough, but the darker
ones are impossible:

http://www.birkenstockbeach.com/images/main/madrids.jpg

I found a picture in case there was a question of what Madrids look
like.  They look very much like the old Dr. Scholls sandals -- but are
much more comfortable.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 11:22:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11610
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 11:22:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAA85C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:29:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13103086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 17:34:46 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BLYkQ03151 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:34:46 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BLYgq12055
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:34:43 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2DF9F0.739883A@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:34:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Better
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Here's a better Madrid picture:

http://www.fusaro.de/shop1/media/040243.gif

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 11:30:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11641
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 11:30:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAA8E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:36:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13102962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 17:42:24 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BLWOQ02816 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:32:24 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6BLWNUh001560 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:32:23 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207111731060.13251-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:32:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2DF2D9.F64515AD@maynor.net>

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>Starkville, of course).  Naming the names of these stores wouldn't be
>meaningful since they're not known out of this region -- McRae's,
>Parisian, Dillards.  They're of a kind with Macy's.

I have shopped at Dillards stores since about 1970, in both Arkansas and
Tennessee. We have both Dillards and Parisian in Knoxville.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 11:32:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11645
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 11:32:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001164A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:44:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13103080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 17:44:28 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BLYSQ03111 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:34:28 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6BLYSUh002381 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:34:28 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207111733080.13251-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:34:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2DF555.43BA9E27@maynor.net>

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I don't know.  I can't quite imagine deciding to have a birthday party
>for myself and inviting people to it, saying that it's a birthday
>party.  I guess if I did that, I would indeed expect people to bring
>presents.

Many of us adults in Knoxville give parties on our birthdays. We
generally do not announce our birthdays. But one year, I did - and told
everyone that in my family it is the custom for adults to give presents to
the guests - and I did. Everyone loved it.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 11:54:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11662
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 11:54:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAAB65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:01:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13105250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 18:06:47 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BM6lQ08700 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:06:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws50-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.50]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BM6hq20795
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:06:44 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207111731060.13251-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E0171.49C55869@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:06:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >Starkville, of course).  Naming the names of these stores wouldn't be
> >meaningful since they're not known out of this region -- McRae's,
> >Parisian, Dillards.  They're of a kind with Macy's.
>
> I have shopped at Dillards stores since about 1970, in both Arkansas and
> Tennessee. We have both Dillards and Parisian in Knoxville.

I would expect you to have them.  You are in the region I was talking
about, although I don't think McRae's is in East Tennessee.  (It's owned
by the same company that owns Parisian now, though.  Just like Dillards
and Gayfers are one now.  In fact, I'm not sure Gayfers exists as a name
anymore.  Ditto Caster and Knott.  They're all Dillards.)

I added the Macy's descriptor for people in other parts of the country
since most people know Macy's from either NYC or a branch.  And the
stores I'm talking about are definitely Macy's ilk (Macy's's ilk?).  I'm
pretty sure I've told before here about how I confirmed my
middle-classed status not many years ago in NYC -- middle-class a la
Labov's dept store research.  Kleins was already gone at the time, so it
wasn't included in my accidental research of my social class.  But the
other two stores were.  I happened to go into Saks first -- the real
5th-Ave one -- because I walked by it regularly on that trip since I was
staying in our old Words-L hotel -- the Pickwick Arms.  Anyway, I really
was in need of doing some clothes shopping at that time and found
amazing sales going on all over NYC.  (I'm convinced that everything
except real estate is much cheaper in big cities.)  Well, not being much
of a shopper -- being rather one who when needing something prefers to
do it quickly by finding tried-and-true brands, I found myself a bit
lost in Saks.  It was just too much trouble trying to find familiar
clothes.  So I went on to Macy's.  Bingo.  All my <normal> brands were
there -- and all at much lower prices than they ever are in the places I
normally shop.  It was a bonanza.  I did find myself chuckling and
thinking of Labov, though.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 11:55:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11672
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 11:55:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAAB75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:02:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13105282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 18:07:38 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BM7cQ08857 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:07:38 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws50-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.50]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BM7Yq21024
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:07:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207111733080.13251-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E01A4.5EECAC5@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:07:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> Many of us adults in Knoxville give parties on our birthdays. We
> generally do not announce our birthdays.

So how do you know that these parties are on the people's bdays?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 11:56:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11677
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 11:56:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001166A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:08:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13105319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 18:08:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BM8PQ08980 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:08:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 57F5F80CD; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 15:08:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711220821.57F5F80CD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:08:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2DF555.43BA9E27@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 11,
              2002  4:15: 1 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > And expecting the guests to bring birthday presents?
> >
> > Does one ever *expect* guests to bring presents as an adult?
>
> I don't know.  I can't quite imagine deciding to have a birthday party
> for myself and inviting people to it, saying that it's a birthday
> party.  I guess if I did that, I would indeed expect people to bring
> presents.

Hm. Lindsey did that in April, but explicitly said No Presents.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 12:06:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11716
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 12:06:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAAC2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:13:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13105804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 18:19:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BMJ9Q10595 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:19:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws141-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.141]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6BMJ7q24028
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:19:07 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711220821.57F5F80CD@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E0459.542796EF@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:19:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Hm. Lindsey did that in April, but explicitly said No Presents.

Who's Lindsey?  And what's the point in telling people that the party is
in honor of your birthday?   Did Lindsey bake herself a birthday cake
for the occasion?  I'm finding this all hilarious.  Maybe my
<self-esteem> isn't high enough.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 12:08:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11723
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 12:08:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00116792@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:20:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13105422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 18:20:55 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BMAtQ09400 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:10:55 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6BMAsUh012650 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:10:54 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207111808310.9885-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:10:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E01A4.5EECAC5@maynor.net>

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> Many of us adults in Knoxville give parties on our birthdays. We
>> generally do not announce our birthdays.
>
>So how do you know that these parties are on the people's bdays?

I know the birthdates of my good friends, whether they announce them or
not. Some individuals have annual parties on bdays. Some invitees know,
some do not. One person who does this is my friend Martin, who is now in
his early 80s. I have gone to his bday parties for many years. He never
announces.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 12:26:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11744
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 12:26:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAAD9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:33:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13106848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 18:38:55 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BMctQ13837 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:38:55 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ300DPFW8UTS@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:38:54 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020711220821.57F5F80CD@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2E0459.542796EF@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2E08A3.6040605@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:37:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Karen Kay wrote:
>
>
>>Hm. Lindsey did that in April, but explicitly said No Presents.
>>
>
> Who's Lindsey?  And what's the point in telling people that the party is
> in honor of your birthday?   Did Lindsey bake herself a birthday cake
> for the occasion?  I'm finding this all hilarious.  Maybe my
> <self-esteem> isn't high enough.


Because it's a fun excuse to have a bash.

You may be on track with the self-esteem thing.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 12:27:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11751
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 12:27:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAADB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:33:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13106882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 18:39:26 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BMdQQ13946 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:39:26 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-38.panax.com
          [65.114.190.38]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6BMcvj28224; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:38:58 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020711180716.00b60160@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:38:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      penobscot and a new route
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

What with a great forecast (highs in the low 70s, winds from the NW at
15-20 mph), we caught a shuttle bus at the end of our neighborhood and rode
to Jordan Pond.  From there, we walked a carriage road around to the
trailhead for the south face of Penobscot mountain.  Penobscot looms along
the western side of Jordan Pond.  It is a massive thing, with another trail
along its midslope aptly named Jordan Cliffs (this trail is now closed
owing to the nesting of peregrine falcons and the rearing of their
young).  The south face trail is one of those that during the first 15-20
minutes, you must continually reassure yourself that (1) you will survive
and (2) it really is worth it.  It is a climb more than a hike---not
dangerous, but definitely strenuous.  Then you break onto a milder slope
and come out of the trees onto the mostly bare granite slope, at which
point all of the southern vistas of the island come into view.  After that,
it is a mild but continuously uphill hike to the summit.  The trail to the
summit has been improved.  The cairns all are of a faintly Asian design and
all of the "volunteer" nonsense cairns have been removed.  One of the
characteristics of the new cairns is the holespace in the middle (formed by
two uprights with a capstone)---if you can see through the hole, then the
trail extends straight in front of you.

The day was beautiful, as promised.  The gusty breeze was welcome.  It was
the first time that I had been atop Penobscot for several years and I
realized early on what I had been missing.  So much space, so much
beautiful landscape.   The "traffic" wasn't all that much (this truly is
not one of the "let's walk up in our Gucci loafers and dainty sandals"
routes).  We made the summit and then started down across the cut to
Sargent Pond and a new route that Bonnie had scoped out.

Sargent Pond is a small pond in a narrow valley between Penobscot and
Sargent mountains.  It tends to be the gathering/resting/eating and
swimming-to-cool-off spot for those who make it that far.  On our way there
from the Penobscot summit, we encounted a group of about 35 who were having
a reunion and were headed in the opposite direction (presumably to include
descending the way we had ascended---a route that I maintain that no sane
person would attempt).  We will watch the local papers for accounts of rescues.

Having relaxed and lunched at the pond, we undertook the new route (for
us).  Rather than descending the Deer Brook trail (a real ankle biter) back
to the carriage road bordering Jordan Pond (and then having to deal with
the hordes of cyclists thereupon), we headed in the opposite
direction.  The intial descent was a bit rigorous but manageable.  Soon, we
were seeing parts of the island and surrounding ocean/island configurations
from angles that we had never experienced.  Much of the trail was in heavy
woods, these stretches broken by short walks on exposed granite with the
concomitant excellent vistas.

Finally, we arrived back on a familiar trail (Asticou) and followed it down
to the Asticou Inn in Northeast Harbor, where we sat under a tree, drank
more water, munched a couple more Balance Bars [tm], and waited for the
shuttle bus---which in due time arrived, picked us up, and then kindly
deposited us within a block of our house.

We will finish the excellent day by dining at Mache Bistro---in about 30
minutes.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 12:33:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11763
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 12:33:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAAE24@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:40:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13107235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 18:46:10 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BMkAQ15155 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:46:10 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6BMk9926965 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          17:46:09 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <F86CgyFU3mCHxgSBV0q0000a543@hotmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <003d01c2292c$f261f100$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:47:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Lisa:
> >No denying, I definitely taught myself not to cry.
>
> I've always been rather sparing (and private) with tears. Haven't
> cried in years.
>
> I'm going to get slammed for this - I'm suspicious of (public)
> tears. All those guys on teevee - politicians, athletes - POTUS,
> the Rams ex-coach etc. that seem to get teary-eyed at the drop of
> a hat annoy the heck out of me. I find it totally fake. I cannot
> empathize with it.
>
> Even Letterman, my hero, got misty-eyed with Ted Koppel the other
> night. I don't get it.
>
> -rashmi, the hard-hearted

If I may respectfully comment, I would like to
lay a few thoughts on you for what they're worth.
I'm sure I've voiced them before.

There is a difference between emotions and true
feelings.  Emotions refer to responses we were taught.
We actually learn to be angry, to be sad, to be excitedly
<happy>, etc. in certain situations by learning this
behavior from others in our formative years. And so we
react to experiences in expected ways.  We cry at
funerals.  We cry if we don't get invited to a birthday
party or if someone criticizes our clothes.

We can be swayed by emotions, we can manipulate
with emotions, we can be mislead by emotions. We
can use emotions.  We can be confused by emotions.
But we cannot trust emotions.

The tears we cry when we are with people are
sometimes just emotion.  The tears we cry when we
are alone are more likely our true feelings, whether they
are tears for joy, for loss, for despair.  These are
tears that bring healing and put us back into sync.

The preacher on TV begging for money or professing
a healing or apologizing for his behavior, is sometimes
crying tears of emotion.

The person on a long walk alone through the woods
or around the lake, rethinking his life or an experience
or making a decision or listening to beautiful music
on his headset while watching the sunset is more
likely moved to tears of the soul, the real you.

FWIW.  IMHO.

                 - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 12:50:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11789
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 12:50:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAAF70@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:57:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13108045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 19:02:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BN2aQ17483 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:02:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 43296804A; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 16:02:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020711230235.43296804A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:02:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E0459.542796EF@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 11,
              2002  5:19: 5 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Hm. Lindsey did that in April, but explicitly said No Presents.
>
> Who's Lindsey?

My 5-houses down the street neighbor.

> Did Lindsey bake herself a birthday cake
> for the occasion?

Himself. No.

> I'm finding this all hilarious.  Maybe my
> <self-esteem> isn't high enough.

I think that's likely.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 13:10:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11824
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 13:10:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB06E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:17:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13108820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 19:23:05 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BNN5Q20170 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:23:05 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6BNN0g07162 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:23:00 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207111821520.6830-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:23:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F21feIQR3xgT09KVuac0000a4d9@hotmail.com>

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Rashmi Murthy wrote:

> Ann and steph:
> >= Anybody else like Radiohead?
>
> Depends on what era we're talking about. Their recent albums are
> completely different from the old ones. I like The Bends and OK
> Computer. What'd you get?

I got OK Computer and am going to get The Bends.  I also got Amnesiac but
I don't like it (after one playing) as well as OK Computer (have played
that many times).

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 13:14:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11829
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 13:14:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00116B48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:26:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13108902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 19:26:54 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BNQsQ20618 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:26:54 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6BNQqf07396 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:26:52 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207111823330.6830-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:26:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711195330.5515A80B0@yellow.rahul.net>

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> I cry all the time. I cried when Tony called me (he was the
> first). It's a way of dealing quickly with a surplus of emotion. I
> cry more when I'm angry or frustrated than I do when I'm sad.

I'm always crying when I laugh hard.  I tear up easily but I only sob when
I feel REALLY HORRIBLE.  Then I feel much better.

When I cry I splash up my glasses and can't see.  This is annoying at work
(My New Boss and I often have laughing spasms.)

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 13:33:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11870
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 13:33:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB151@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:40:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13109132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 19:45:32 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BNZVQ21685 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:35:31 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6BNZVUh002727 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:35:31 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207111934150.13847-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:35:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      the market
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I don't know what the rest of you are doing about the market tailspin, but
I have been investing every penny I can get my hands on. There are some
splendid opportunities, I think.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 13:37:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11877
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 13:37:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB17D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:44:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13109721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 19:49:41 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BNnfQ23939 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:49:41 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6BNne926615 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          18:49:40 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207111934150.13847-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000801c22935$d11958e0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:51:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: the market
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> I don't know what the rest of you are doing about the market tailspin,
but
> I have been investing every penny I can get my hands on. There are
some
> splendid opportunities, I think.
>
> Bethany

Cite.  Please.

     - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 13:43:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11884
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 13:43:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB1B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:50:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13109564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 19:55:34 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BNjXQ23200 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:45:33 -0400
Received: from pc-80-194-154-172-ny.blueyonder.co.uk
          (pc-80-194-154-172-ny.blueyonder.co.uk [80.194.223.172] (may be
          forged)) by pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id
          g6BNjRZ22860 for <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:45:28
          -0400
X-Authentication-Warning: pasta.cc.uga.edu:
                         pc-80-194-154-172-ny.blueyonder.co.uk [80.194.223.172]
                         (may be forged) didn't use HELO protocol
Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by QTBNJUBMYW.uga.cc.uga.edu with SMTP for
          words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:46:30 -0500
X-Priority: 3
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Sender: words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu
Importance: Normal
X-Encoding: MIME
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <1TYQ2N3IVU0H6W434V9.7FWO5L3GYQ.words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:46:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: words-l@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
Subject:      Keep porn free...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I know you want to look at pussy, but first you need to learn The Truth about =
the adult industry:

Get Into Paysites Free!

If you take 2 minutes to read what I have to say you will have full access  =
to some of the largest membership sites for free.

http://www.americanteensluts.com/fpp/rune/rune3.html
This costs you nothing!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 13:55:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11912
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 13:55:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB229@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:02:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13110271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 20:07:39 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C07dQ26218 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:07:39 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6C07bPO009155 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:07:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D2DBBC1.CFC75F42@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020711170655.00a66100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:07:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711181304.12CF07E53@yellow.rahul.net>

At 11:13 AM 7/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > Peter Kaminski wrote:
> > >
> > > Bookrat writes,
> > >
> > > >I'm not up for coordinating this, but I'd be happy to volunteer Pete
> K. to
> > > >do the Photoshoppery. :-)
> > >
> > > Thanks, Boo!  Send 'em in via attachment or URL.  Karen, can you
> provide a
> > > photo of the venue?
> >
> > We could all be her boat that doesn't float . . . . .
>
>Oh, twist the knife some more, Betty!

Do you want it to be half filled with water?  :-)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 13:56:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11923
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 13:56:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB22C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:02:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13110292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 20:08:21 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C08LQ26283 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:08:21 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 91266808F; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 17:08:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712000820.91266808F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:08:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb kids
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D9492.4020403@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 11,
              2002  9:22:10 am"

Rita Chapman said:
> Ann Borkin wrote:
> > What puts her in the learning disabled/other health impaired category?
>
> She has sensory issues.

What does this mean?

> Many fewer now since she's had
> wonderful OTs, but occasionally something comes up that I
> have to think about and solve for her classroom teacher.
> The teacher wouldn't let her stretch to organize during
> testing, and you can see how her scores dropped at the end
> of every session.

What does 'stretch to organize' mean?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 13:58:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11927
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 13:58:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB241@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:04:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13110395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 20:10:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C0AQQ26601 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:10:26 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8FDFE8251; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 17:10:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712001025.8FDFE8251@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:10:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020711170655.00a66100@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 11, 2002  5: 7:37 pm"

Betty said:
> At 11:13 AM 7/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Betty said:
> > > Peter Kaminski wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bookrat writes,
> > > >
> > > > >I'm not up for coordinating this, but I'd be happy to volunteer Pete
> > K. to
> > > > >do the Photoshoppery. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Boo!  Send 'em in via attachment or URL.  Karen, can you
> > provide a
> > > > photo of the venue?
> > >
> > > We could all be her boat that doesn't float . . . . .
> >
> >Oh, twist the knife some more, Betty!
>
> Do you want it to be half filled with water?  :-)

No, I don't want it to be a mosquito factory.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 14:05:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11942
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 14:05:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB263@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:12:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13110525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 20:17:30 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C0HUQ27097 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:17:30 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws177-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.177]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6C0HQq26807
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:17:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F86CgyFU3mCHxgSBV0q0000a543@hotmail.com>
            <003d01c2292c$f261f100$360332d1@0018079268>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E1FE5.8522FFB1@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:16:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:

> There is a difference between emotions and true
> feelings.  Emotions refer to responses we were taught.
> We actually learn to be angry, to be sad, to be excitedly
> <happy>, etc. in certain situations by learning this
> behavior from others in our formative years. And so we
> react to experiences in expected ways.  We cry at
> funerals.  We cry if we don't get invited to a birthday
> party or if someone criticizes our clothes.

I'm pondering this and am not sure I agree totally.  I do agree that
there are different levels of tears and that some aren't as <deep> as
others.  But even those less deep strike me as genuine responses and not
exactly "learned" except in the sense that we of course learn things
like what death means (for the survivors), what being left out means,
etc.  And many of these things are of course culturally acquired.

I do my best not to cry at funerals and usually manage to succeed.  I
was surprised the first time I cried at a wedding -- and was also
horrified at the thought that somebody might see my tears.  They were
real, though they had nothing to do with being sad that these people
were marrying each other.  I think it was a "Margaret, why are you
weeping?" thing -- as in Hopkins.  I didn't know that poem at the time,
of course.  I was early teens.  And I think maybe it was only about the
third wedding I'd ever attended, the earlier ones having been when I was
really little.  The one when I first cried (which was the beginning of
my constant problem of crying at weddings) had to do with the aging
process, the transcience of childhood, etc.  And it's always a major
tear-evoking time in weddings when the bride kisses her father in a sort
of <goodbye>, etc. etc.

> The tears we cry when we are with people are
> sometimes just emotion.  The tears we cry when we
> are alone are more likely our true feelings, whether they
> are tears for joy, for loss, for despair.  These are
> tears that bring healing and put us back into sync.

I don't know exactly what the tears I cry when with people are, but I do
know that they are always unwanted.  I hate the tears beyond words and
want to hide in a hole somewhere.  This is true regardless of the reason
for them -- whether I'm watching a sad movie with others (something I
prefer to do alone), am crying at a wedding or funeral, am crying
because somebody just said something sad, or am crying out of anger or
frustration, which is something Karen mentioned while ago and that I
totally identify with.  In all cases I am *VERY* envious of non-criers.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 14:16:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11957
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 14:16:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB2B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:23:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13110544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 20:28:32 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f56.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.56]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C0IWQ27171 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:18:32 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 17:18:26 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 00:18:26 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jul 2002 00:18:26.0983 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A484B370:01C22939]
Message-ID:  <F56p5oOpgV5X6z7VAYi00005d90@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:18:26 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie:

> > the Rams ex-coach etc. that seem to get teary-eyed at the drop of
> > a hat annoy the heck out of me. I find it totally fake. I cannot
> > empathize with it.

>So things you can't empathize with are fake?  I've never assumed

No cause and effect implied anywhere in my statement. I was
referring to tears in public by public personalities. Seems like
no event is complete these days without copious tear-shedding.

What can I say, I much prefer Denzel's display to Halle Berry's meltdown.

I have no opinion on private tears.

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 14:17:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11961
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 14:17:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00116E4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:29:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13110553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 20:29:25 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f250.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.128]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C0JOQ27223 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:19:24 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 17:19:19 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 00:19:19 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jul 2002 00:19:19.0572 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C3DD2540:01C22939]
Message-ID:  <F2501ZJx4gDPQwzODnZ0000a8d1@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:19:19 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Costa Rica
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Oh geez, anywhere.  There seem to be no American tourists in
>Europe this summer.  I want to go to this vague south america,

I can recommend Argentina.

>but also India, Thailand, I don't know.  There's nothing wrong

imo, India's okay if you have local contacts. Otherwise
it's a tough place in which to get around.

-rashmi


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 14:21:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11965
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 14:21:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB2E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:27:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13110991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 20:33:22 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C0XMQ28591 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:33:22 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws177-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.177]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6C0XIq00541
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:33:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207111823330.6830-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E23CB.FBE62B@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:33:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> I'm always crying when I laugh hard.  I tear up easily but I only sob when
> I feel REALLY HORRIBLE.  Then I feel much better.

The laughing kind of crying is a whole nother thing -- and one that
doesn't really embarrass me.  Re tearing up vs sobbing, I rarely sob and
can remember only one time in my life that I ever did it in <public> --
very much semi-public, I should add -- did it when talking with a good
friend.  I need to tell him about my retirement!  He retired years ago
and loves it, but I haven't told him yet!  That's a side-thought.  Back
to the main thought.  Sobbing isn't something I worry about since it's
not something I'm wont to do with witnesses.  It's the tearing up that's
a major problem for me and an embarrassment, even though I realize that
I should not be embarrassed (unless I'm around somebody like Rashmi, of
course).  It just happens without my being able to stop it.  When it
starts happening, I concentrate all of my attention on trying to stop it
before tears actually run down my face.  Sometimes I succeed in that.

The first time I remember the embarrassment of tears was sitting at the
kitchen table at a good friend's house, doing general chit-chatting with
her, her mother, and one or both of her sisters.  (Bonniemae:  This was
my friend Katherine, who now lives in WH.)  Katherine's sister, Dot, was
telling a sad story that I don't even remember now what was, and I
suddenly realized that tears were streaming down my cheeks.  Mainly I
remember that they all looked at me like I was crazy -- like why would I
be crying when hearing this story about somebody Dot knew.  I was
mightily embarrassed.  That kind of thing has continued.  I seem to have
no control over it.  For a long time, most of my life in fact, I thought
that just <tearing up> -- not the tumbling tears -- wasn't evident to
observers.  I discovered I was wrong about that several years ago when
an acquaintance/semi-friend (hard to define the category -- not a close
friend) came up to me after a talk she'd given and told me that she was
sad when she saw my tears.  No tears had fallen.  I am confident of
that.  She was talking about teary eyes.  (This was a talk that involved
a story about being refused in a restroom in Oklahoma because of her
skin color.)  A few other occasions later have made me realize that
people do in fact see the tears huddling in the eyes.

Anyway, I am indeed envious of people who don't have the tear problem.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 14:25:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11977
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 14:25:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB361@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:32:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13111285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 20:37:25 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C0bOQ28903 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:37:24 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws177-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.177]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6C0bMq01417
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:37:22 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F56p5oOpgV5X6z7VAYi00005d90@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E24C0.78F05049@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:37:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rashmi Murthy wrote:

> No cause and effect implied anywhere in my statement. I was
> referring to tears in public by public personalities. Seems like
> no event is complete these days without copious tear-shedding.

I do remember Muskie.  And I'm convinced that those tears were real.
And for sure they didn't help him.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 14:31:12 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11993
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 14:31:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00116EFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:43:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13110983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 20:43:21 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f89.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.89]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C0WvQ28546 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:32:57 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 17:32:51 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 00:32:51 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jul 2002 00:32:51.0862 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A806C360:01C2293B]
Message-ID:  <F89q6koDarInw0s6gvo0000a93a@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:32:51 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      new grandfather
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Congratulations Espen.

How's the proud papa doing?

-rashmi


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 14:31:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11996
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 14:31:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00116EFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:43:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13111445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 20:42:41 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C0gfQ29293 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:42:41 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ4005MY1Z4V8@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:42:40 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020711200650.6342C804E@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2DF2D9.F64515AD@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2E25A4.1000204@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:41:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Do most of you buy your clothes at smallish shops -- or maybe not
> <smallish> -- shops that specialize in clothes?  All the clothes
> shopping I do is at ordinary department stores (none of which exist in
> Starkville, of course).  Naming the names of these stores wouldn't be
> meaningful since they're not known out of this region -- McRae's,
> Parisian, Dillards.  They're of a kind with Macy's.


I normally shop at department stores.  I've shopped at
Dillards both here and in Ohio.  I thought maybe Macy's was
owned by May Company, but it isn't.  In any case, a lot of
your "middle-class" stores are.  According to the website,
they own Famous-Barr, Strawbridges, Filene's, Lord & Taylor,
  Kaufmann's, Foley's, etc.  Their ad campaign for all these
stores is "The Right Choices Make all the Difference."




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 14:34:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12001
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 14:34:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB3F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:41:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13111783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 20:46:43 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C0kgQ30090 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:46:42 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6C0kdPO025237 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:46:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207111823330.6830-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020711174459.00a682a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:46:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E23CB.FBE62B@maynor.net>

I used to get really mad at myself for crying so easily. I stopped for a
long time but now the tear are really close to the surface again.  I cry
for happy or sad. I cry during commercials and movies. Don't hate me, Rashmi.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 14:51:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12016
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 14:50:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB467@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:57:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:03:08 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C138Q31508 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:03:08 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws28-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.28]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6C136q07449
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:03:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711200650.6342C804E@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2DF2D9.F64515AD@maynor.net> <3D2E25A4.1000204@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E2AC7.BC227ED2@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:03:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> I normally shop at department stores.  I've shopped at
> Dillards both here and in Ohio.  I thought maybe Macy's was

Dillards may in fact be all over the country.  I had never heard of it
until it started gobbling up stores like Gayfers and Caster & Knott.  It
makes sense, now that I think about it, that it might be a larger
organization, as in nation-wide, that is pulling in regional entities.
I guess regional department stores are gradually turning into national
ones by the gobbling -- which is fine with me -- I don't mean to suggest
any objection to it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 14:54:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12028
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 14:54:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB483@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:01:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13111987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:06:47 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f25.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.25]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C0ukQ30851 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:56:46 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 17:56:41 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 00:56:41 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jul 2002 00:56:41.0337 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[FC0F5690:01C2293E]
Message-ID:  <F25LNydZ5fJ3wUpCfj10000a90b@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:56:41 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty:
>I used to get really mad at myself for crying so easily. I stopped for a
>long time but now the tear are really close to the surface again.  I cry
>for happy or sad. I cry during commercials and movies. Don't hate me,
>Rashmi.

Bad Betty. Go back and read my post. I named Dubya, Letterman,
Halle Berry and the Ram's ex-coach as people whose tears annoyed
me. You and Natalie are not in the same league (sorry). You don't
have to worry. (Actually, I don't see why you should care.)

This is not something I had to teach myself btw. I've never
been much of a weeper.

-rashmi



_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 14:54:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12035
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 14:54:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB484@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:01:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:06:50 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C16oQ31743 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:06:50 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws28-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.28]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6C16kq08223
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:06:47 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207111823330.6830-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <4.2.2.20020711174459.00a682a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E2BA4.DA053C9F@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:06:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

>  I cry during commercials and movies. Don't hate me, Rashmi.

Oh yes, oh yes!  I remember revealing very, very hesitantly that I have
cried during tv commercials many times.  Considering that I've always
been alone on those occasions, I'm not quite sure how Rashmi can
conclude that my tears are fake.  This phenomenon has occurred even when
I didn't have a dog.  As in no living creature observed it.  (When I had
Bernard, he would lick the tears off of my face.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 14:55:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12039
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 14:55:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB488@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:02:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:07:37 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C17LQ31814 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:07:21 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.42]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZ432A00.3UI for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:06:10 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEDGFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E2BB6.89135E58@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:07:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:

>
> The Man of Few Words had enough words left over to send me an email ending
> things with me...

    Gutless bastard.  You're well shed of him.

> which makes sense since I learned he never ended it with
> his last girlfriend....that hurt way more than him ending it with me.

    Ah, well.  I've been collecting collateral damage from such shits my entire
adult life.  Forget you ever knew him.

> . Ok, he wasn't the right guy for me. That's clear.

    He isn't the right guy for any vertebrate lifeform.

> As of Monday, 89 lbs!!! Life goes on.

    That is not a proper weight for an adult woman.  Have a bacon cheeseburger,
a shake, and entertain thoughts of what would be a proper karmic retribution
for such a duplicitous bastard.  If his 'girlfriend' went along with this his
reward will not be long in coming.

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 14:57:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12043
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 14:57:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB4A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:04:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:10:06 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1A5Q32090 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:10:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1227280C4; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 18:10:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712011005.1227280C4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:10:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2D901B.9D4EBB93@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 11,
              2002 10: 3: 7 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Last night I got two invitations to birthday parties. Adult birthday
> > parties.
>
> Will there be cake?

I just realized that I'm going to birthday parties this Friday *and*
Saturday. And there will be cake at both of these.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 14:59:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12050
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 14:59:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB4B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:06:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:11:42 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f147.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.147]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C11gQ31344 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:01:42 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          11 Jul 2002 18:01:37 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 01:01:36 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jul 2002 01:01:37.0037 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[AC4F93D0:01C2293F]
Message-ID:  <F147JeoYWJQ5IuL3kJl0000a871@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 01:01:36 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Thanks, Doris. I try to remind myself to give famous weepers the
benefit of the doubt.

-rashmi

========================================================
Doris:
If I may respectfully comment, I would like to
lay a few thoughts on you for what they're worth.
I'm sure I've voiced them before.

There is a difference between emotions and true
feelings.  Emotions refer to responses we were taught.
We actually learn to be angry, to be sad, to be excitedly
<happy>, etc. in certain situations by learning this
behavior from others in our formative years. And so we
react to experiences in expected ways.  We cry at
funerals.  We cry if we don't get invited to a birthday
party or if someone criticizes our clothes.

We can be swayed by emotions, we can manipulate
with emotions, we can be mislead by emotions. We
can use emotions.  We can be confused by emotions.
But we cannot trust emotions.

The tears we cry when we are with people are
sometimes just emotion.  The tears we cry when we
are alone are more likely our true feelings, whether they
are tears for joy, for loss, for despair.  These are
tears that bring healing and put us back into sync.

The preacher on TV begging for money or professing
a healing or apologizing for his behavior, is sometimes
crying tears of emotion.

The person on a long walk alone through the woods
or around the lake, rethinking his life or an experience
or making a decision or listening to beautiful music
on his headset while watching the sunset is more
likely moved to tears of the soul, the real you.

FWIW.  IMHO.

_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:00:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12060
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:00:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB4B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:06:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:12:16 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1CFQ32221 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:12:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CCE278071; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 18:12:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712011214.CCE278071@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:12:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E2BB6.89135E58@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at
              "Jul 11, 2002  6: 7: 2 pm"

John Williams said:
> > As of Monday, 89 lbs!!! Life goes on.
>
>     That is not a proper weight for an adult woman.

Psst, John! She's talking about pounds lost. It's a good thing!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:00:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12064
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:00:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB4BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:06:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:12:24 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1CNQ32240 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:12:23 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6C1CJqr002174 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:12:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020711181100.00a6c100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:12:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F25LNydZ5fJ3wUpCfj10000a90b@hotmail.com>

At 12:56 AM 7/12/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>Betty:
>>I used to get really mad at myself for crying so easily. I stopped for a
>>long time but now the tear are really close to the surface again.  I cry
>>for happy or sad. I cry during commercials and movies. Don't hate me,
>>Rashmi.
>
>Bad Betty. Go back and read my post. I named Dubya, Letterman,
>Halle Berry and the Ram's ex-coach as people whose tears annoyed
>me. You and Natalie are not in the same league (sorry).

Thank goodness!  I hate tears for show, too.  Clinton did that once that I saw.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:02:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12068
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:02:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00117052@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:14:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:14:32 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1EWQ32384 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:14:32 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws28-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.28]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6C1ETq10216
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:14:30 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F25LNydZ5fJ3wUpCfj10000a90b@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E2D73.F1574C30@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:14:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rashmi Murthy wrote:

> Bad Betty. Go back and read my post. I named Dubya, Letterman,
> Halle Berry and the Ram's ex-coach as people whose tears annoyed
> me. You and Natalie are not in the same league (sorry). You don't
> have to worry. (Actually, I don't see why you should care.)

But what if BB and I were on tv?  Would you assume that our teariness
was fake just because we happened to be famous?  Iow, can tearable
people like us not by chance end up in <high position>?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:02:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12072
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:02:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00117059@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:15:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:15:00 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1F0Q32420 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:15:00 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6C1Etqr001823 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:14:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEDGFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020711181343.00a2a850@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:14:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E2BB6.89135E58@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>

At 06:07 PM 7/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>S Hess wrote:
>
> >
> > The Man of Few Words had enough words left over to send me an email ending
> > things with me...
>
>     Gutless bastard.  You're well shed of him.
>
> > which makes sense since I learned he never ended it with
> > his last girlfriend....that hurt way more than him ending it with me.
>
>     Ah, well.  I've been collecting collateral damage from such shits my
> entire
>adult life.  Forget you ever knew him.
>
> > . Ok, he wasn't the right guy for me. That's clear.
>
>     He isn't the right guy for any vertebrate lifeform.
>
> > As of Monday, 89 lbs!!! Life goes on.
>
>     That is not a proper weight for an adult woman.  Have a bacon
> cheeseburger,
>a shake, and entertain thoughts of what would be a proper karmic retribution
>for such a duplicitous bastard.  If his 'girlfriend' went along with this his
>reward will not be long in coming.

I love it!  How are you doing, John? I missed seeing you this year.  I
still chuckle when I think of Ryan hanging up on you thinking it was a
crank call when you identified yourself as John Williams.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:04:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12076
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:04:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB4E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:11:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:16:36 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1GaQ32513 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:16:36 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6C1GYqr008353 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:16:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D2E2BB6.89135E58@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020711181608.00a2d450@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:16:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712011214.CCE278071@yellow.rahul.net>

At 06:12 PM 7/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>John Williams said:
> > > As of Monday, 89 lbs!!! Life goes on.
> >
> >     That is not a proper weight for an adult woman.
>
>Psst, John! She's talking about pounds lost. It's a good thing!

Psst, Karen!  He knew that.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:04:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12080
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:04:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB4E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:11:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:17:06 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1H6Q32564 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:17:06 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.42]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZ43IJ01.6U3 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:15:55 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712011214.CCE278071@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E2DFE.FBDC46F9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:16:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> >     That is not a proper weight for an adult woman.
>
> Psst, John! She's talking about pounds lost. It's a good thing!

    Oh.  "Never mind."        - L. Litella

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:05:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12084
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:05:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB4E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:11:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:17:25 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1HPQ32570 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:17:25 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6C1HLqr010076 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:17:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <F25LNydZ5fJ3wUpCfj10000a90b@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020711181659.00a644a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:17:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E2D73.F1574C30@maynor.net>

At 08:14 PM 7/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Rashmi Murthy wrote:
>
> > Bad Betty. Go back and read my post. I named Dubya, Letterman,
> > Halle Berry and the Ram's ex-coach as people whose tears annoyed
> > me. You and Natalie are not in the same league (sorry). You don't
> > have to worry. (Actually, I don't see why you should care.)
>
>But what if BB and I were on tv?  Would you assume that our teariness
>was fake just because we happened to be famous?  Iow, can tearable
>people like us not by chance end up in <high position>?

Probably not.  I do own a denim skirt though.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:06:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12088
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:06:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00117085@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:18:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:18:37 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1IbQ32701 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:18:37 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws28-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.28]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6C1ISq10992
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:18:28 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712011214.CCE278071@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E2E61.F50610FE@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:18:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> John Williams said:
> > > As of Monday, 89 lbs!!! Life goes on.
> >
> >     That is not a proper weight for an adult woman.
>
> Psst, John! She's talking about pounds lost. It's a good thing!

I also first read it as her weight now and was on the verge of asking
her how tall she is since 89 seems pretty low to me for anybody much
over 5 feet.  Then I reconsidered and decided that wasn't what she
meant.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:09:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12092
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:09:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB515@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:16:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:21:42 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1LgQ00401 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:21:42 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6C1Lcqr019945 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:21:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020712011214.CCE278071@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020711182053.00a5e1c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:21:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E2E61.F50610FE@maynor.net>

At 08:18 PM 7/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > John Williams said:
> > > > As of Monday, 89 lbs!!! Life goes on.
> > >
> > >     That is not a proper weight for an adult woman.
> >
> > Psst, John! She's talking about pounds lost. It's a good thing!
>
>I also first read it as her weight now and was on the verge of asking
>her how tall she is since 89 seems pretty low to me for anybody much
>over 5 feet.  Then I reconsidered and decided that wasn't what she
>meant.

I don't know if she is over 5 feet actually.  She is very friendly and
approachable though.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:13:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12099
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:13:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB530@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:19:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:25:24 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1PNQ00635 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:25:24 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6C1PLqr027969 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:25:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020711182400.00a2d100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:25:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I meant to tell you.  When you pack for your trip, don't take those pants
that you took to SnowBash.  The butt seam is getting thin.

BB

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:14:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12106
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:14:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB53B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:21:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:26:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1QoQ00685 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:26:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 769A680C1; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 18:26:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712012649.769A680C1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:26:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020711181608.00a2d450@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 11, 2002  6:16:34 pm"

Betty said:
> At 06:12 PM 7/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >John Williams said:
> > > > As of Monday, 89 lbs!!! Life goes on.
> > >
> > >     That is not a proper weight for an adult woman.
> >
> >Psst, John! She's talking about pounds lost. It's a good thing!
>
> Psst, Karen!  He knew that.

Are you sure?

I'm beyond frazzled at the moment, and my judgment is gone.

I'm wearing an ankle-length black dress with (very dark) brown
sandals. There are funky wooden buttons down the front to go with the
sandals. Carrying a black purse and black briefcase. I am putting
clear polish on my fingernails and red lipstick on my lips.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:15:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12115
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:15:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001170E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:27:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:27:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1RVQ00752 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:27:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5BD347CA7; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 18:27:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712012730.5BD347CA7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:27:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E2DFE.FBDC46F9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at
              "Jul 11, 2002  6:16:46 pm"

John Williams said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > >     That is not a proper weight for an adult woman.
> >
> > Psst, John! She's talking about pounds lost. It's a good thing!
>
>     Oh.  "Never mind."        - L. Litella
                                  ^

E.


Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:17:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12119
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:17:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001170F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:29:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:29:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1TUQ00833 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:29:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C5C0880F6; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 18:29:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712012929.C5C0880F6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:29:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020711182400.00a2d100@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 11, 2002  6:25:20 pm"

Betty said:
> I meant to tell you.  When you pack for your trip, don't take those pants
> that you took to SnowBash.  The butt seam is getting thin.

MY GOD! This is being archived forever on the Web.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:22:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12130
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:22:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00117128@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:34:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:34:59 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1YwQ01219 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:34:58 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6C1Yuq14678
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:34:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F25LNydZ5fJ3wUpCfj10000a90b@hotmail.com>
            <4.2.2.20020711181659.00a644a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E323E.9AB2F2A4@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:34:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> >But what if BB and I were on tv?  Would you assume that our teariness
> >was fake just because we happened to be famous?  Iow, can tearable
> >people like us not by chance end up in <high position>?
>
> Probably not.  I do own a denim skirt though.

I agree with the probably not, but what do denim skirts have to do with
anything?  I can't remember whether I still have one.  I did a few years
ago, but I can't remember when I last saw it.  I'm thinking I might have
given it to the Salvation Army.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:24:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12134
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:24:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00117130@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:36:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:36:12 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1aCQ01285 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:36:12 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.42]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZ44ED02.CVC for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:35:01 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEDGFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <4.2.2.20020711181343.00a2a850@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E3278.95C1BE76@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:35:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:


> still chuckle when I think of Ryan hanging up on you thinking it was a
> crank call when you identified yourself as John Williams.

    Him, Karen... Good thing I'm not still in telephone sales, huh?  8-)

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:24:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12143
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:24:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00117137@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:36:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13113023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:37:00 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1axQ01326 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:36:59 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6C1avq15143
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:36:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020711182400.00a2d100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E32B7.93799807@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:36:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:
>
> I meant to tell you.  When you pack for your trip, don't take those pants
> that you took to SnowBash.  The butt seam is getting thin.

I have no memory at all now of what I wore at SnowBash.  Do you remember
any other identifying factor?  I guess I could check the butt seams in
any pants I might be considering.  That makes good sense, now that I
think about it.  Thanks for the alert!

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:27:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12147
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:27:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB5AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:34:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13112865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:39:39 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1TdQ00838 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:29:39 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6C1TcUh031141 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:29:38 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207112116240.15582-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:29:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the market
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000801c22935$d11958e0$360332d1@0018079268>

>> I have been investing every penny I can get my hands on. There are
>some
>> splendid opportunities, I think.
>>
>
>Cite.  Please.

I thought you'd never ask! No, seriously, I was counting on you, Doris. I
have been doing stock research for several weeks, and I have some new
principles, including requiring dividends in longterm investments right
now. I found a DRIP-type company (ShareBuilder.com) that allows small
investments over time - $4 fee per stock (not per month or whatever), and
I selected 3 stocks w/monthly purchases. SB is better than most DRIPS,
because you can select any of the first 4 Tuesdays of the month for
purchases. W/most DRIPs, all purchases are made the same day of the
month. And of course you can elect to invest all dividends (why do they
say "reinvest"?)

I have bought Citigroup (C), IBM, and Pfeizer (PFE) (all up today,
incidentally).

SB does not have Coca-Cola FEMSA (KOF) - so I scraped together enough
cash to buy 30 shares (that's how many shares of SONC I originally bought
- it's worked well for me).

I am sorry that my investment club will not meet this month - we would
have met tonight - because there are other opportunities, I
think. Perhaps ChoicePoint, BBBY, Apollo, Starbucks? I would have to do
more research to be sure.

My club recently bought Cardinal Health (CAH) and BBT.

And you?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:28:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12154
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:28:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB5B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:34:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13113128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:40:23 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1eNQ01562 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:40:23 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6C1eJq15945
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:40:20 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712012649.769A680C1@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E3381.C275FDCF@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:40:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I'm wearing an ankle-length black dress with (very dark) brown
> sandals. There are funky wooden buttons down the front to go with the
> sandals. Carrying a black purse and black briefcase. I am putting
> clear polish on my fingernails and red lipstick on my lips.

All of that sounds excellent to me, with the possible exception of the
red lipstick.  Do you mean as in really red?  How about something less
<red> -- like maybe just a hint of color?  I still remember when I
reached the lipstick age (an age dictated by my conformist world -- it
was decreed as exam week of seventh grade), and my brother kept rolling
in laugher saying that I looked like a clown.  Ever since then I've worn
very <subdued> lipstick.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:29:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12158
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:29:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB5C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:35:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13113146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:41:15 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1fFQ01607 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:41:15 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws57-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.57]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6C1fDq16186
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:41:13 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712012929.C5C0880F6@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E33B7.B1AC9D78@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:41:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > I meant to tell you.  When you pack for your trip, don't take those pants
> > that you took to SnowBash.  The butt seam is getting thin.
>
> MY GOD! This is being archived forever on the Web.

Is that bad?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:37:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12181
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:37:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB61B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:44:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13113418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:49:47 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1nkQ02257 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:49:47 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 284F7804C; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 18:49:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712014946.284F7804C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:49:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E3278.95C1BE76@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at
              "Jul 11, 2002  6:35:52 pm"

John Williams said:
> Betty wrote:
> > still chuckle when I think of Ryan hanging up on you thinking it was a
> > crank call when you identified yourself as John Williams.
>
>     Him, Karen...

I thought it was Norman I hung up on. I talked to you the other night!

> Good thing I'm not still in telephone sales, huh?  8-)

Ugh.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:39:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12188
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:39:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB635@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:45:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13113524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 21:51:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C1pPQ02481 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:51:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1C1DA8087; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 18:51:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712015125.1C1DA8087@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:51:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E3381.C275FDCF@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 11,
              2002  8:40:17 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> All of that sounds excellent to me, with the possible exception of the
> red lipstick.  Do you mean as in really red?  How about something less
> <red> -- like maybe just a hint of color?  I still remember when I
> reached the lipstick age (an age dictated by my conformist world -- it
> was decreed as exam week of seventh grade), and my brother kept rolling
> in laugher saying that I looked like a clown.  Ever since then I've worn
> very <subdued> lipstick.

I do not look like a clown. It will look good, trust me, Natalie.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:54:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12200
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:54:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB7A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:00:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13115396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 22:06:18 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C26HQ06360 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:06:17 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6C26Dqr022397 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:06:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <F25LNydZ5fJ3wUpCfj10000a90b@hotmail.com>
            <4.2.2.20020711181659.00a644a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020711190555.00a2f7f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:06:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E323E.9AB2F2A4@maynor.net>

At 08:34 PM 7/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > >But what if BB and I were on tv?  Would you assume that our teariness
> > >was fake just because we happened to be famous?  Iow, can tearable
> > >people like us not by chance end up in <high position>?
> >
> > Probably not.  I do own a denim skirt though.
>
>I agree with the probably not, but what do denim skirts have to do with
>anything?  I can't remember whether I still have one.  I did a few years
>ago, but I can't remember when I last saw it.  I'm thinking I might have
>given it to the Salvation Army.

The famous intern had a denim jumper.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 15:55:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12212
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 15:55:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB7AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:01:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13115434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 22:07:25 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C27PQ06476 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:07:25 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6C27Mqr022937 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:07:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020711182400.00a2d100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020711190645.00a64af0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:07:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E32B7.93799807@maynor.net>

At 08:36 PM 7/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
> >
> > I meant to tell you.  When you pack for your trip, don't take those pants
> > that you took to SnowBash.  The butt seam is getting thin.
>
>I have no memory at all now of what I wore at SnowBash.  Do you remember
>any other identifying factor?  I guess I could check the butt seams in
>any pants I might be considering.  That makes good sense, now that I
>think about it.  Thanks for the alert!

I have a vague recollection of leopard skin or something similar. It was
covered up with your long top most of the time.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 16:11:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12232
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 16:11:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB887@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:18:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13115941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 22:23:37 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C2NaQ08128 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:23:36 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws249-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.249]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6C2NYq26165
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:23:34 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712015125.1C1DA8087@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E3DA4.453D1986@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:23:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I do not look like a clown. It will look good, trust me, Natalie.

Keep in mind that I didn't say you might look like a clown.  I do trust
you that you will look fine in red lipstick.  It's just that I've always
been leery of it since my first lipstick-wearing moments when my brother
told me I looked like a clown.  I've never worn red lipstick again -- as
in truly red.

I do find it a bit odd that somebody who goes "God, no!" to the thought
of toenail polish would feel comfortable in wearing red lipstick,
though.  (I should add that I would never wear red nail polish either,
toes or fingers.  I wear only clear polish.  But I always wear it.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 16:11:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12239
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 16:11:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB88D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:18:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13115957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 22:24:04 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C2O4Q08174 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:24:04 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws249-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.249]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6C2O2q26242
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:24:02 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F25LNydZ5fJ3wUpCfj10000a90b@hotmail.com>
            <4.2.2.20020711181659.00a644a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020711190555.00a2f7f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E3DBF.ADFBCB07@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:23:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> The famous intern had a denim jumper.

Monica?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 16:19:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12261
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 16:19:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAB8CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:25:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13116143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 22:31:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C2V9Q08788 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:31:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws249-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.249]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6C2V6q27658
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:31:07 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020711182400.00a2d100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020711190645.00a64af0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2E3F68.876B444A@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:31:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> I have a vague recollection of leopard skin or something similar. It was
> covered up with your long top most of the time.

...
Those ellipses represent my going to the closet, an easy thing to do
since my out-of-season clothes are in a closet in this room.  I thought
of two possible pairs of pants that might fit your description, one more
than the other.  I just checked both of them and found nothing at all
frayed about their seams.  Could the pants have been black?  I didn't
check the blank pants just then, but I do think that they're more likely
to have frayed seams than the two leopardish ones I just checked.  One
of the leoparidish ones (not really very leopardish) I've had for at
least ten years now, thus making it likely that it might have something
frayed.  But my quick glance showed it to be quite solid
seeming/seaming.  The other pair, which I would deem more leopardish and
thus more likely to be the ones you're talking about, are maybe six or
so years old.  But they also looked fine.  So I'm not sure now what to
think about your pants observation.  Maybe the difference is that I was
looking at them on hangers in the closet rather than on my body?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 16:20:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12265
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 16:20:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00117409@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:32:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13116185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 22:32:28 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C2WSQ08954 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:32:28 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6C2WQqr025603 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:32:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <F25LNydZ5fJ3wUpCfj10000a90b@hotmail.com>
            <4.2.2.20020711181659.00a644a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020711190555.00a2f7f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020711193210.00a68db0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:32:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E3DBF.ADFBCB07@maynor.net>

At 09:23 PM 7/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > The famous intern had a denim jumper.
>
>Monica?

That's the one!  What is she doing now?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 16:27:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12288
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 16:27:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00117459@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:39:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13116397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 22:39:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C2dXQ09612 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:39:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C40A480AA; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 19:39:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712023928.C40A480AA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:39:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E3DA4.453D1986@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 11,
              2002  9:23:32 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> I do find it a bit odd that somebody who goes "God, no!" to the thought
> of toenail polish would feel comfortable in wearing red lipstick,
> though.

I fail to see the connection.

> (I should add that I would never wear red nail polish either,
> toes or fingers.  I wear only clear polish.  But I always wear it.)

I sometimes wear colored polish. But I don't always wear polish.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 16:43:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12300
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 16:43:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EABA64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:49:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13117330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 22:55:25 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C2tOQ11976 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:55:24 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6C2tNa17697 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:55:23 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207112154300.17369-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:55:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E2BA4.DA053C9F@maynor.net>

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Oh yes, oh yes!  I remember revealing very, very hesitantly that I have
> cried during tv commercials many times.  Considering that I've always
> been alone on those occasions, I'm not quite sure how Rashmi can
> conclude that my tears are fake.

I don't believe Rashmi -did- conclude that, do you?

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 16:45:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12316
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 16:45:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EABAC8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:52:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13117645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 22:57:42 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C2vgQ12246 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:57:42 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6C2veW17753 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:57:40 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207112157260.17369-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:57:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020711182400.00a2d100@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

> I meant to tell you.  When you pack for your trip, don't take those pants
> that you took to SnowBash.  The butt seam is getting thin.

sounds whorish to me.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 16:52:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12329
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 16:52:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00117713@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:04:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13120250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 23:04:24 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C34NQ14035 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:04:23 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6C34M917974 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:04:22 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207112200410.17369-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:04:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E3381.C275FDCF@maynor.net>

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> was decreed as exam week of seventh grade), and my brother kept rolling
> in laugher saying that I looked like a clown.  Ever since then I've worn
> very <subdued> lipstick.

I think I'm noticing more use of very red lipstick, or at least very
obvious lipstick.  I assume these are like nonsmear & near-permanent post
pomo lipsticks.

If indeed they are nonsmear and longlasting, I - - - might - - - try one.

FORGET IT.  Just the serious thought of it made me very embarrassed.  But
I think Karen can wear it a la [current] mode.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 16:55:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12345
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 16:55:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EABFF1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:01:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13121430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 23:07:21 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C37KQ14648 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:07:21 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 278E3815F; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 20:07:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712030720.278E3815F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:07:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207112200410.17369-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 11, 2002 10: 4:21 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> If indeed they are nonsmear and longlasting, I - - - might - - - try one.

Janet and I were talking about this on list--these things are
AMAZING!!! Cover Girl Longlasting Lipstick. Live it, love it.

> FORGET IT.  Just the serious thought of it made me very embarrassed.  But
> I think Karen can wear it a la [current] mode.

I wear lipstick every day now, with no worries and not having to
reapply it all the time.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 17:00:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12358
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 17:00:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00117888@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:12:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13122097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 23:12:42 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C3CfQ15150 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:12:41 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6C3Cew18116 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:12:40 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207112206280.17995-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:12:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020711174459.00a682a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

> I used to get really mad at myself for crying so easily. I stopped for a
> long time but now the tear are really close to the surface again.  I cry
> for happy or sad. I cry during commercials and movies. Don't hate me, Rashmi.

CONFESSION TRUE STORY TIME:

I wonder if anybody can top this for inappropriate face-losing crying.

Teachers aren't supposed to cry!  Students/pupils will eat them alive if
they do, talk about disrespect . . .

I remember our making a teacher cry in 7th grade.  It was so fucking
embarrassing, and it sealed the shroud of that near dead teacher in our
eyes.

But there was a 5th grade class in Mack School in Ann Arbor Michigan that
drove me to tears, once, when I was the French teacher (French was
obligatory in 4 - 6 grades in elementary schools in Ann Arbor, in the late
60's).  That was it for me in Mack School - finished.  The very next
semester I transferred out to a nice middle class white school in the
'burbs (I had thought in my naivete and youth that teaching French to
little kids would be much more fun in the black neighborhood!)

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 17:03:45 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12362
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 17:03:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001178C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:15:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13122286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 23:15:51 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C3FpQ15475 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:15:51 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6C3Fnx18289 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:15:49 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207112214380.18263-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:15:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: penobscot and a new route
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020711180716.00b60160@mail.panax.com>

I loved the part about the cairns.

I was going to say you don't see cairns around here and then I realized,
of course not, there aren't any stones, not even on the beach.  Here.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 17:10:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12369
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 17:10:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAC178@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:17:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13122625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 23:22:39 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C3MdQ16130 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:22:39 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6C3MbS18379 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:22:37 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207112216240.18263-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:22:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE15cVnT2O0btfC1SMr00009e47@hotmail.com>

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Anne H Toal wrote:

> I stopped crying after my mother died. I felt something like scar tissue
> grow over the emotional center that tears come from. I recall a definite
> sense of hardening. For a week I did nothing but cry, then I willed myself
> not to cry at the memorial service. Something happened to me then, and it's
> never changed 8 years later.

I was taken unawares at my father's funeral.  I didn't cry at any time
about his death/life (he had Alzheimers so he died bit by bit) until the
funer - - oops MEMORIAL SERVICE.  In fact I had been so busy and practical
and hard working and unemotional beforehand that as I was washing dishes
in my ma's tiny kitchen, after a lunch or supper before the M. S., I heard
one relative reassure another "She feels just as bad as we do."

Then I lost it at the funeral MEMORIAL SERVICE.  What I remember most is
when people came past us going out of the service, there was my former
science teacher coming toward me, and her face was grotesque, warped, with
crying.  She was bawling.  So that was it - I had already been crying
pretty hard but I started sobbing at her, we were sobbing at each other.
Whenever I sob in public again like that I will see her twisted face.  I
figure it mirrored my own.

Hmmm I wonder how it would look with lipstick, bawling grotesque like that
. . .

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 17:14:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12376
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 17:14:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAC19A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:20:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13122756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 23:26:16 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C3QGQ16428 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:26:16 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6C3QCqr003647 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:26:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D2E3381.C275FDCF@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020711202536.00a716f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:26:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207112200410.17369-100000@og1.olagrande.net >

At 10:04 PM 7/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> > was decreed as exam week of seventh grade), and my brother kept rolling
> > in laugher saying that I looked like a clown.  Ever since then I've worn
> > very <subdued> lipstick.
>
>I think I'm noticing more use of very red lipstick, or at least very
>obvious lipstick.  I assume these are like nonsmear & near-permanent post
>pomo lipsticks.
>
>If indeed they are nonsmear and longlasting, I - - - might - - - try one.
>
>FORGET IT.  Just the serious thought of it made me very embarrassed.  But
>I think Karen can wear it a la [current] mode.

Janet mentioned this Cover Girl stuff that is supposed to last a long time
but I think lipstick looks bad on old farts.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 17:14:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12383
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 17:14:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011794C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:26:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13122773 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 23:26:53 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C3QqQ16469 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:26:52 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6C3Qpqr024275 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:26:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207112200410.17369-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020711202634.00a65e30@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:26:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712030720.278E3815F@yellow.rahul.net>

At 08:07 PM 7/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Ann Borkin said:
> > If indeed they are nonsmear and longlasting, I - - - might - - - try one.
>
>Janet and I were talking about this on list--these things are
>AMAZING!!! Cover Girl Longlasting Lipstick. Live it, love it.
>
> > FORGET IT.  Just the serious thought of it made me very embarrassed.  But
> > I think Karen can wear it a la [current] mode.
>
>I wear lipstick every day now, with no worries and not having to
>reapply it all the time.

You'll make Larry K barf.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 17:16:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12392
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 17:16:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00117968@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:28:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13122813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 23:28:56 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C3SuQ16582 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:28:56 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6C3Sqqr027170 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:28:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020711174459.00a682a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020711202826.00a73890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:28:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207112206280.17995-100000@og1.olagrande.net >

At 10:12 PM 7/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
>
> > I used to get really mad at myself for crying so easily. I stopped for a
> > long time but now the tear are really close to the surface again.  I cry
> > for happy or sad. I cry during commercials and movies. Don't hate me,
> Rashmi.
>
>CONFESSION TRUE STORY TIME:
>
>I wonder if anybody can top this for inappropriate face-losing crying.
>
>Teachers aren't supposed to cry!  Students/pupils will eat them alive if
>they do, talk about disrespect . . .
>
>I remember our making a teacher cry in 7th grade.  It was so fucking
>embarrassing, and it sealed the shroud of that near dead teacher in our
>eyes.
>
>But there was a 5th grade class in Mack School in Ann Arbor Michigan that
>drove me to tears, once, when I was the French teacher (French was
>obligatory in 4 - 6 grades in elementary schools in Ann Arbor, in the late
>60's).  That was it for me in Mack School - finished.  The very next
>semester I transferred out to a nice middle class white school in the
>'burbs (I had thought in my naivete and youth that teaching French to
>little kids would be much more fun in the black neighborhood!)

When are you going to get around to telling the story?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 17:47:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12453
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 17:47:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAC321@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:54:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13123971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11
          Jul 2002 23:59:48 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C3xlQ18806 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:59:47 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6C3xhqr028456 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:59:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020711182400.00a2d100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020711190645.00a64af0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020711205910.00a61e30@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:59:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E3F68.876B444A@maynor.net>

At 09:31 PM 7/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > I have a vague recollection of leopard skin or something similar. It was
> > covered up with your long top most of the time.
>
>...
>Those ellipses represent my going to the closet, an easy thing to do
>since my out-of-season clothes are in a closet in this room.  I thought
>of two possible pairs of pants that might fit your description, one more
>than the other.  I just checked both of them and found nothing at all
>frayed about their seams.  Could the pants have been black?  I didn't
>check the blank pants just then, but I do think that they're more likely
>to have frayed seams than the two leopardish ones I just checked.  One
>of the leoparidish ones (not really very leopardish) I've had for at
>least ten years now, thus making it likely that it might have something
>frayed.  But my quick glance showed it to be quite solid
>seeming/seaming.  The other pair, which I would deem more leopardish and
>thus more likely to be the ones you're talking about, are maybe six or
>so years old.  But they also looked fine.  So I'm not sure now what to
>think about your pants observation.  Maybe the difference is that I was
>looking at them on hangers in the closet rather than on my body?

It was only obvious when you bent over and had your butt in the air.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 18:04:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12499
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 18:04:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAC624@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 0:11:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13126516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 00:16:30 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C4GRQ21418 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:16:27 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id VAA33685 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 11 Jul 2002
          21:16:26 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207112115400.30975-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:16:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712012649.769A680C1@yellow.rahul.net>

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> I'm wearing an ankle-length black dress with (very dark) brown
> sandals. There are funky wooden buttons down the front to go with the
> sandals. Carrying a black purse and black briefcase. I am putting
> clear polish on my fingernails and red lipstick on my lips.
>
The dress sounds great.  Do women usually carry both a purse and a
briefcase?

 Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 20:49:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12727
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 20:49:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EACF6B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 2:55:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13133474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 03:01:13 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C71CQ02675 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 03:01:12 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PB4HP>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:01:11 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PB4H3; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:01:10 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020712090050.027b4b30@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:01:03 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Japanese skills...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020709015909.19C3180D9@yellow.rahul.net>

18:59 08.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>One of the things I learned to do when I lived in Japan was to kill
>mosquitoes by clapping my hands together. Do you guys ever do this?

And with one hand ...

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 20:58:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12739
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 20:58:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EACFBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 3:05:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13133735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 03:10:52 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C7ApQ03318 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 03:10:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2E59C8157; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 00:10:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712071048.2E59C8157@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:10:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020711202536.00a716f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 11, 2002  8:26:11 pm"

Betty said:
> Janet mentioned this Cover Girl stuff that is supposed to last a long time
> but I think lipstick looks bad on old farts.

I think it makes one look less faded.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 22:57:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA12895
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 22:57:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001189CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 5:09:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13135173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 05:09:40 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C99dQ09200 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 05:09:40 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PB4PT>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:09:39 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PB4PR; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:09:35 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102142160.14169-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020712110338.0278c9c8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:09:27 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207102344030.40737-100000@idiom.com>

23:47 10.07.2002 -0700 skrev Sharon Ziperovich:
>I was also told that the sign for "I love you" is also the sign of
>the devil.  666.  If you look closely, and imaginatively, you can find the
>three 6's with the two folded down fingers forming the circle at the base
>of the 6's and the raised fingers the straight part of the six.

Now there is a Norwegian revivalist who claims that www = 666. But this may
be old news on this <service>.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 23:07:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12911
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 23:07:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAD3C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 5:14:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13135271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 05:19:38 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C9JbQ09597 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 05:19:38 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PB4QW>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:19:37 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PB4QV; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:19:28 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net> <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711141841.00b84668@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020712111908.027c06e8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:19:22 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2DD4A9.17A3C6F8@akad.ee>

21:55 11.07.2002 +0300 skrev Kristin Sarv:
>Espen Ore wrote:
>
> >  it is further north than Oslo or
> > Talinn
>
>Tallinn

I am sorry!

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 23:24:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12930
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 23:24:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00118AD2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 5:36:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13135535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 05:36:37 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C9abQ10721 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 05:36:37 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PB4SC>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:36:36 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PB4SB; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:36:30 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020712113541.02833c88@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:36:23 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: new grandfather
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F89q6koDarInw0s6gvo0000a93a@hotmail.com>

00:32 12.07.2002 +0000 skrev Rashmi Murthy:
>Congratulations Espen.

Thank you!

>How's the proud papa doing?

Spending his leave time from the navy between visits to the hospital with
extra jobs to be able to buy a drier.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 23:28:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12942
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 23:28:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00118AF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 5:39:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13135591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 05:39:58 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C9dwQ10857 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 05:39:58 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PB4SL>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:39:57 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PB4SK; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:39:54 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <4.2.2.20020711181608.00a2d450@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020712113933.027dae18@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:39:48 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712012649.769A680C1@yellow.rahul.net>

18:26 11.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>I'm beyond frazzled at the moment, and my judgment is gone.

Best wishes!

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 23:47:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12973
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 23:47:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAD59F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 5:54:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13136020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 05:59:31 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C9xUQ12380 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 05:59:30 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6CA3xp08804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:03:59
          +0200
References: <F89q6koDarInw0s6gvo0000a93a@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020712113541.02833c88@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020712120358.A8799@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:03:58 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: new grandfather
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020712113541.02833c88@victoria.nb.no>; from
              Espen.Ore@NB.NO on Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 11:36:23AM +0200

=
= Spending his leave time from the navy between visits to the hospital with
= extra jobs to be able to buy a drier.
=
= Espen

Is that for the diapers, or just for in general?

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 23:52:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12980
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 23:52:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAD647@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 5:58:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13136399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 06:04:28 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CA4RQ12814 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:04:27 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <3Q1PB4W8>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:04:26 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Q1PB4W7; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:04:24 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020712113541.02833c88@victoria.nb.no>
            <F89q6koDarInw0s6gvo0000a93a@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020712113541.02833c88@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020712120327.02789620@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:04:17 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: new grandfather
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712120358.A8799@yoccoz.multinix.com>

12:03 12.07.2002 +0200 skrev steph:
>=
>= Spending his leave time from the navy between visits to the hospital with
>= extra jobs to be able to buy a drier.
>=
>= Espen
>
>Is that for the diapers, or just for in general?

Just in general. I would be surprised if they will use anything but paper
(throw away) diapers.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun  5 23:59:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12992
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 5 Jun 1960 23:59:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00118C09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 6:11:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13136449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 06:11:14 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CABDQ13095 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:11:13 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6CAFkm08848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:15:46
          +0200
References: <F85ctOXTPHyTVLi79cl0000e186@hotmail.com>
            <20020711201658.D89C8801D@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020712121545.B8799@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:15:45 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel and unsending emails
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711201658.D89C8801D@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 01:16:58PM -0700

= >
= > In Outlook you can recall messages, but I don't know if it works for
= > distribution lists.
=
= Only if you have a very sloooooooow mail server. I've sent stuff to
= long lists of people only to have to recall the message; about half of
= 'em get it anyway.
=
= Karen

It's not such a matter of getting it, as in if they get it, but
they don't touch it then it can get zapped before they open it.
Most of the time I see both the message and the recall message,
but can still open the message.  If I click on the recall message
first, it will zap the original.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 01:31:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13105
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 01:31:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAD930@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 7:38:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13137756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 07:43:33 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CBhXQ01693 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:43:33 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws79-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.79]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CBhUq01957
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:43:31 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712023928.C40A480AA@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2EC0E0.1FF61A1@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:43:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > I do find it a bit odd that somebody who goes "God, no!" to the thought
> > of toenail polish would feel comfortable in wearing red lipstick,
> > though.
>
> I fail to see the connection.

They both involve painting bodily parts.

> I sometimes wear colored polish. But I don't always wear polish.

Why the "God, no!" reaction to the thought of toenail polish then?
That's what I was curious about.  I think some sandaled feet look fine
with colored polish on the toenails, btw.  But those are feet of people
who <have style> or whatever you call it, not of plainjanish people.  I
would feel idiotic with brightly colored toenails or fingernails.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 01:33:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13109
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 01:33:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAD945@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 7:40:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13137788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 07:45:51 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CBjpQ01806 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:45:51 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws79-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.79]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CBjnq02306
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:45:49 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207112154300.17369-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2EC16B.5D0E2584@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:45:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> > Oh yes, oh yes!  I remember revealing very, very hesitantly that I have
> > cried during tv commercials many times.  Considering that I've always
> > been alone on those occasions, I'm not quite sure how Rashmi can
> > conclude that my tears are fake.
>
> I don't believe Rashmi -did- conclude that, do you?

Yes, I thought what she said was that she didn't like people who "teared
up at the drop of a hat" and that she thought such tears were fake.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 01:35:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13116
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 01:35:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAD94C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 7:42:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13137812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 07:47:48 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CBlmQ01905 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:47:48 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws79-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.79]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CBlkq02591
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:47:46 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207112157260.17369-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2EC1DF.B630CFD3@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:47:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> > I meant to tell you.  When you pack for your trip, don't take those pants
> > that you took to SnowBash.  The butt seam is getting thin.
>
> sounds whorish to me.

To me also.  That's why I'm trying to find a thin butt seam.  The only
two pairs of pants that fit Betty's description in any way, however,
seem to have totally intact, unthin butt seams.  I'll recheck them
today, but they certainly looked and felt secure when I examined them
last night.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 01:40:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13120
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 01:40:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAD984@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 7:47:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13137881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 07:52:49 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CBqnQ02193 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:52:49 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws79-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.79]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CBqlq03410
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:52:47 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020711182400.00a2d100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020711190645.00a64af0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020711205910.00a61e30@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2EC30D.1C3907C3@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:52:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> It was only obvious when you bent over and had your butt in the air.

I try to wear tops that are long enough to cover the butt under all
circumstances, but it's not always easy to find them.  It's been
especially hard in the past several years.  All the tops in stores seem
grotesquely short to me.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 01:42:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13127
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 01:42:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAD989@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 7:48:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13137891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 07:53:55 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CBrtQ02227 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:53:55 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws79-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.79]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CBrqq03582
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:53:52 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207112115400.30975-100000@idiom.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2EC34E.E7D73CDC@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:53:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sharon Ziperovich wrote:

> The dress sounds great.  Do women usually carry both a purse and a
> briefcase?

If I carry a briefcase, I'll also be carrying a purse.  They hold
different kinds of items.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 01:42:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13131
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 01:42:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00118F96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 7:54:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13137948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 07:54:35 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CBsYQ02292 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:54:34 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws79-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.79]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CBnZq03010
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:49:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712030720.278E3815F@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2EC24D.69008B8C@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:49:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I wear lipstick every day now, with no worries and not having to
> reapply it all the time.

I wear lipstick every day, but I rarely think about reapplying it.
About the only time I reapply it is when I realize that I'm going to be
out in major sun for a good stretch of time, like cutting the grass or
whatever.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 01:44:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13135
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 01:44:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAD9AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 7:51:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13137793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 07:56:36 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CBkaQ01827 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:46:36 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6CBkZUh011374 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:46:35 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207120745520.19629-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:46:35 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2EC0E0.1FF61A1@maynor.net>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>That's what I was curious about.  I think some sandaled feet look fine
>with colored polish on the toenails, btw.  But those are feet of people
>who <have style> or whatever you call it, not of plainjanish people.  I
>would feel idiotic with brightly colored toenails or fingernails.

I think you should try it, Natalie.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 01:53:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13147
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 01:53:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAD9FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 7:59:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13137960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 08:04:56 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CBsuQ02308 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:54:56 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6CBstUh013223 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:54:55 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207120752230.19752-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:54:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      clothes for Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I know what I will wear from the ankles down and the neck up - but I have
made no decisions about neck-to-ankle other than that I'll wear jeans on
the flights over and back - what else?

And I'll take Deet - I hear there are mosquitoes.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 02:25:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13185
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 02:25:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EADD7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 8:31:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13140055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 08:37:23 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CCbNQ07019 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:37:23 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 338F2809D; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 05:37:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712123722.338F2809D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 05:37:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020712113933.027dae18@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 12, 2002 11:39:48 am"

Espen Ore said:
> 18:26 11.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> >I'm beyond frazzled at the moment, and my judgment is gone.
>
> Best wishes!

Thanks.:) I need them.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 02:27:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13192
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 02:27:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EADDAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 8:33:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13140154 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 08:39:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CCdCQ07214 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:39:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EC2807F65; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 05:39:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712123910.EC2807F65@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 05:39:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2EC0E0.1FF61A1@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 12,
              2002  6:43:28 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > I do find it a bit odd that somebody who goes "God, no!" to the thought
> > > of toenail polish would feel comfortable in wearing red lipstick,
> > > though.
> >
> > I fail to see the connection.
>
> They both involve painting bodily parts.

Okay.

> Why the "God, no!" reaction to the thought of toenail polish then?
> That's what I was curious about.  I think some sandaled feet look fine
> with colored polish on the toenails, btw.  But those are feet of people
> who <have style> or whatever you call it, not of plainjanish people.  I
> would feel idiotic with brightly colored toenails or fingernails.

I would feel idiotic with colored toenails.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 02:29:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13196
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 02:29:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EADDE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 8:35:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13140279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 08:41:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CCfFQ07450 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:41:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8D2E7809D; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 05:41:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712124114.8D2E7809D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 05:41:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2EC24D.69008B8C@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 12,
              2002  6:49:33 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I wear lipstick every day now, with no worries and not having to
> > reapply it all the time.
>
> I wear lipstick every day, but I rarely think about reapplying it.

Most women I know who wear lipstick to work reapply it after lunch or
dinner.

> About the only time I reapply it is when I realize that I'm going to be
> out in major sun for a good stretch of time, like cutting the grass or
> whatever.

LOL.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 02:30:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13205
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 02:30:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EADDF4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 8:36:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13140321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 08:42:12 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CCgBQ07562 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:42:11 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6CCkjM09108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:46:45
          +0200
References: <4.2.2.20020711181608.00a2d450@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020712012649.769A680C1@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020712144644.A9086@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:46:44 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712012649.769A680C1@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 06:26:49PM -0700

= sandals. Carrying a black purse and black briefcase. I am putting
=
= Karen

Why do you need the briefcase?  I used to carry pen and paper
into interviews, but only ended up fiddling with them, which made
me seem even more nervous than I already was.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 02:33:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13214
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 02:33:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EADE49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 8:39:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13140618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 08:45:18 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CCjIQ08301 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:45:18 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust196.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.198]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005178888@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 08:45:11 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711200650.6342C804E@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2DF2D9.F64515AD@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2ECFB3.1AF7366D@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:46:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
> since they're not known out of this region -- McRae's,
> Parisian, Dillards.  They're of a kind with Macy's.

Dillards certainly is known. It is a huge corporation.
I never have bought clothes from small specialty shops since high school
days. I did then because there was a very nice such shop right in our
town. But before, during, and after that, my clothes shopping was done
at major department stores and occasionally by mail. I purchased things
from Banana Republic before it was a store--they used to be a catalogue
only enterprise.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 02:37:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13221
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 02:37:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EADE98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 8:43:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13140826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 08:49:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CCnDQ09000 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:49:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 54ED48164; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 05:49:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712124911.54ED48164@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 05:49:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712144644.A9086@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul 12,
              2002  2:46:44 pm"

steph said:
> = sandals. Carrying a black purse and black briefcase. I am putting
> =
> = Karen
>
> Why do you need the briefcase?

Lydia said to carry one to make me look more professional, and gave me
lists of things to put in it. Water bottle, extra resumes, notebook
are what I remember.

> I used to carry pen and paper
> into interviews, but only ended up fiddling with them, which made
> me seem even more nervous than I already was.

I have a notebook that I use every day. I have questions in there. And
I may want to take notes since I have no memory.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 02:39:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13228
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 02:39:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EADEC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 8:46:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13141015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 08:51:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CCpcQ09527 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:51:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C282D8135; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 05:51:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712125137.C282D8135@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 05:51:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2ECFB3.1AF7366D@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 12,
              2002  8:46:43 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Dillards certainly is known. It is a huge corporation.
> I never have bought clothes from small specialty shops since high school
> days. I did then because there was a very nice such shop right in our
> town. But before, during, and after that, my clothes shopping was done
> at major department stores and occasionally by mail. I purchased things
> from Banana Republic before it was a store--they used to be a catalogue
> only enterprise.

When I have an income, I buy clothes wherever I find them. This is
seldom in a dept store, since they often don't have a good selection
of clothes in my size. I did go to a dept store yesterday--it was
actually the first place I went.


Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 02:55:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13250
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 02:55:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE02A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 9:01:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13142237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 09:06:58 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CD6wQ12215 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:06:58 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-43.panax.com
          [65.114.190.43]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6CD6vj25489 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          09:06:57 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020711180716.00b60160@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020712090509.00b55180@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:06:42 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: penobscot and a new route
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207112214380.18263-100000@og1.olagrande.net >

At 10:15 PM 7/11/2002 -0500, ann wrote:
>I loved the part about the cairns.

The new ones are very nice.  Many of them look like they had been/should be
in a Japanese garden.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 03:00:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13267
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 03:00:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE085@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 9:07:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13142439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 09:12:41 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CDCfQ12724 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:12:41 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws133-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.133]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CDCbq18000
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:12:38 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207120745520.19629-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2ED5C3.58D895C@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:12:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >would feel idiotic with brightly colored toenails or fingernails.
>
> I think you should try it, Natalie.

Why?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 03:01:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13276
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 03:01:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE0A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 9:08:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13142529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 09:13:46 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CDDkQ12896 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:13:46 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws133-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.133]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CDDhq18272
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:13:43 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712123910.EC2807F65@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2ED605.10D228E6@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:13:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I would feel idiotic with colored toenails.

Oh.  I mistakenly read your earlier posting as saying that you did
sometimes wear it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 03:02:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13280
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 03:02:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE0C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 9:09:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13142571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 09:14:32 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CDEVQ12981 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:14:31 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws133-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.133]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CDETq18434
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:14:29 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712124114.8D2E7809D@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2ED633.D6B989C1@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:14:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > I wear lipstick every day, but I rarely think about reapplying it.
>
> Most women I know who wear lipstick to work reapply it after lunch or
> dinner.

I just don't usually think about it once I've left home in the morning.

> > About the only time I reapply it is when I realize that I'm going to be
> > out in major sun for a good stretch of time, like cutting the grass or
> > whatever.
>
> LOL.

?  Why LOL?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 03:08:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13284
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 03:08:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE186@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 9:14:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13143151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 09:20:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CDKTQ14109 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:20:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws133-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.133]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CDKQq19650
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:20:26 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020711200650.6342C804E@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2DF2D9.F64515AD@maynor.net> <3D2ECFB3.1AF7366D@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2ED798.2DF5ABAB@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:20:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Dillards certainly is known. It is a huge corporation.

Yes, it seems to be the giant gobbling up the smaller chains.  In a mall
I occasionally go to in Jackson there are (or at least were the last
time I was there) *two* Dillardses -- one on each end of the mall.
That's because one was already a Dillards and then Dillards gobbled up
the Gayfers that was at the other end of the mall and turned the Gayfers
sign into a Dillards sign.

> at major department stores and occasionally by mail. I purchased things
> from Banana Republic before it was a store--they used to be a catalogue
> only enterprise.

I still think of BR as a catalogue, although I realize there are real
live BR stores now also.  I've ordered some clothes through the years
but not lately since it's always a guessing game (unless it's something
like a twin of something you already have).  One non-dept-store that I
would love to have nearby is Tilley's Endurables.  I adore the three
tops I have from there, two bought in the store in Vancouver, the third
ordered.  If they had had more than three colors, I'd have more.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 03:25:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14712
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 03:25:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE31A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 9:32:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13144299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 09:37:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CDbhQ16936 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:37:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BB1B07DFE; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 06:37:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712133741.BB1B07DFE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:37:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2ED605.10D228E6@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 12,
              2002  8:13:41 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I would feel idiotic with colored toenails.
>
> Oh.  I mistakenly read your earlier posting as saying that you did
> sometimes wear it.

No. I wear pale, flesh-toned nailpolish on my fingernails sometimes,
but the idea of wearing anything on my toenails totally squicks me.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 03:27:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14719
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 03:27:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00119841@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 9:39:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13144408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 09:39:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CDdKQ17126 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:39:21 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id ECD7F7FF9; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 06:39:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712133918.ECD7F7FF9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:39:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2ED633.D6B989C1@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 12,
              2002  8:14:27 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > I wear lipstick every day, but I rarely think about reapplying it.
> >
> > Most women I know who wear lipstick to work reapply it after lunch or
> > dinner.
>
> I just don't usually think about it once I've left home in the morning.

That's precisely why I embrace the idea of semi-permanent papaya, or
however Janet put it. So I don't have to think about it, and it still
looks good.

> > > About the only time I reapply it is when I realize that I'm going to be
> > > out in major sun for a good stretch of time, like cutting the grass or
> > > whatever.
> >
> > LOL.
>
> ?  Why LOL?

The idea of putting on lipstick to mow the grass amuses me.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 03:37:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14736
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 03:37:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE437@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 9:44:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13145085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 09:49:47 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CDnkQ18751 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:49:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CDnfq28093
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:49:41 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712133918.ECD7F7FF9@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2EDE72.78E02DE6@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:49:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> The idea of putting on lipstick to mow the grass amuses me.

Although I started wearing lipstick for decorative purposes (in
conformity with what everybody else did, of course), my reasons for
wearing it have changed in the 46+ years since then.  I now wear it for
protective purposes -- protection from the elements, mainly sun.  I
would never go outside for something like grass-cutting without making
sure I had lipstick on.  There are no doubt other lip covers available
for such purposes, but I'm too lazy to explore the possibilities.
Lipstick has worked fine for me for many years.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 03:46:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14758
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 03:46:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE4AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 9:52:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13145429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 09:58:05 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CDw5Q19601 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:58:05 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CDw3q00835
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:58:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2EE069.86704AD@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:58:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Dillards
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Dillards was started by William Dillard in Nashville, Arkansas, over
sixty years ago.  Just thought y'all might want to know that, especially
Bethany since maybe Dillards is also giving her alma mater big money --
also to Wmart.  Somebody was saying at lunch the other day that the U of
Arkansas was weathering the recession quite well, thanks to gigantic
infusions from Walmart.  I suggested that maybe Mississippi should try
to get help from our local business success stories -- like Worldcom.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 03:48:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14762
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 03:48:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00119A65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 9:59:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13145545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 09:59:55 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CDxsQ19820 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:59:54 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 78A017F65; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 06:59:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712135949.78A017F65@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:59:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel and unsending emails
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712121545.B8799@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul 12,
              2002 12:15:45 pm"

steph said:
> = >
> = > In Outlook you can recall messages, but I don't know if it works for
> = > distribution lists.
> =
> = Only if you have a very sloooooooow mail server. I've sent stuff to
> = long lists of people only to have to recall the message; about half of
> = 'em get it anyway.
> =
> = Karen
>
> It's not such a matter of getting it, as in if they get it, but
> they don't touch it then it can get zapped before they open it.
> Most of the time I see both the message and the recall message,
> but can still open the message.  If I click on the recall message
> first, it will zap the original.

I knew that, but it seemed too complicated to explain.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 03:49:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14766
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 03:49:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE4F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 9:55:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13145603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:01:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CE1LQ20032 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:01:21 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0A4057F65; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 07:01:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712140111.0A4057F65@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:01:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020711202634.00a65e30@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 11, 2002  8:26:50 pm"

Betty said:
> At 08:07 PM 7/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Ann Borkin said:
> > > If indeed they are nonsmear and longlasting, I - - - might - - - try one.
> >
> >Janet and I were talking about this on list--these things are
> >AMAZING!!! Cover Girl Longlasting Lipstick. Live it, love it.
> >
> > > FORGET IT.  Just the serious thought of it made me very embarrassed.  But
> > > I think Karen can wear it a la [current] mode.
> >
> >I wear lipstick every day now, with no worries and not having to
> >reapply it all the time.
>
> You'll make Larry K barf.

Luckily, he's not here!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 03:49:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14770
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 03:49:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE4F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 9:56:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13145621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:01:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CE1hQ20067 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:01:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DCA048135; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 07:01:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712140141.DCA048135@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:01:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207112115400.30975-100000@idiom.com> from Sharon
              Ziperovich at "Jul 11, 2002  9:16:26 pm"

Sharon Ziperovich said:
> The dress sounds great.  Do women usually carry both a purse and a
> briefcase?

I think so.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 03:52:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14778
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 03:52:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE548@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 9:58:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13145843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:04:04 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CE43Q20502 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:04:03 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6CE42qr018423 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:04:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207112157260.17369-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020712070307.00a2ca90@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:04:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2EC1DF.B630CFD3@maynor.net>

At 06:47 AM 7/12/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Ann Borkin wrote:
>
> > > I meant to tell you.  When you pack for your trip, don't take those pants
> > > that you took to SnowBash.  The butt seam is getting thin.
> >
> > sounds whorish to me.
>
>To me also.  That's why I'm trying to find a thin butt seam.  The only
>two pairs of pants that fit Betty's description in any way, however,
>seem to have totally intact, unthin butt seams.  I'll recheck them
>today, but they certainly looked and felt secure when I examined them
>last night.

Maybe I'm mis-remembering butts.  Check all your pants that you took with
you.  Check the photos from Adam's house!  Those  are the ones.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:08:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14852
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:08:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE721@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:14:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13147320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:19:51 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CEJpQ23555 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:19:51 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6CEJnqr014744 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:19:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D2ED605.10D228E6@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020712071853.00a3aee0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:19:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712133741.BB1B07DFE@yellow.rahul.net>

At 06:37 AM 7/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Natalie Maynor said:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > I would feel idiotic with colored toenails.
> >
> > Oh.  I mistakenly read your earlier posting as saying that you did
> > sometimes wear it.
>
>No. I wear pale, flesh-toned nailpolish on my fingernails sometimes,
>but the idea of wearing anything on my toenails totally squicks me.

Do you have pudgy toes?  I just recently started getting pedicures and have
painted toes.  It's fun.

Betty, whorish

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:09:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14859
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:09:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00119CE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:21:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13147419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:21:18 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CELIQ23760 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:21:18 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws119-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.119]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CEL5q07229
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:21:15 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207112157260.17369-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <4.2.2.20020712070307.00a2ca90@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2EE5CE.7DB45AFA@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:21:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

>  Check the photos from Adam's house!  Those  are the ones.

I've forgotten where those pictures are.  Does anybody remember?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:09:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14863
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:09:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE75C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:16:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13147455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:21:41 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CELfQ23817 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:21:41 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6CELdqr013530 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:21:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D2ED633.D6B989C1@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020712072005.00a7ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:21:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Sucky Lips
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712133918.ECD7F7FF9@yellow.rahul.net>

At 06:39 AM 7/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>The idea of putting on lipstick to mow the grass amuses me.
>
>Karen

??  I'll always slather on the chap stick if I am going to be out side for
any length of time, especially if it is hot out.  Besides, Natalie wants to
look her best when she mows.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:11:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14867
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:11:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE79F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:18:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13147713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:23:44 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CENiQ24381 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:23:44 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6CENgqr014988 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:23:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020712121545.B8799@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020712072249.00a30e10@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:23:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel and unsending emails
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712135949.78A017F65@yellow.rahul.net>

At 06:59 AM 7/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>steph said:
> > = >
> > = > In Outlook you can recall messages, but I don't know if it works for
> > = > distribution lists.
> > =
> > = Only if you have a very sloooooooow mail server. I've sent stuff to
> > = long lists of people only to have to recall the message; about half of
> > = 'em get it anyway.
> > =
> > = Karen
> >
> > It's not such a matter of getting it, as in if they get it, but
> > they don't touch it then it can get zapped before they open it.
> > Most of the time I see both the message and the recall message,
> > but can still open the message.  If I click on the recall message
> > first, it will zap the original.
>
>I knew that, but it seemed too complicated to explain.:)

People go into great detail to try to help you but you don't want to explain??

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:13:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14871
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:13:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE7B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:19:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13147812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:25:18 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CEPIQ24629 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:25:18 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws119-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.119]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CEPAq08491
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:25:11 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2ED633.D6B989C1@maynor.net>
            <4.2.2.20020712072005.00a7ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2EE6C4.21E7833B@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:25:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Sucky Lips
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> any length of time, especially if it is hot out.  Besides, Natalie wants to
> look her best when she mows.

It's not really very easy to tell by looking whether I do or don't have
on lipstick.  I use barely discernible colors.

Meanwhile, I've been pouring over files on the archive machine in search
of Snowbash pictures and can't find them.  They must be on somebody
else's server.  Whose?  What's the url?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:14:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14875
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:14:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE7BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:20:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13147846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:25:56 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CEPuQ24690 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:25:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6879D7CDC; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 07:23:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712142337.6879D7CDC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:23:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020712071853.00a3aee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 12, 2002  7:19:50 am"

Betty said:
> At 06:37 AM 7/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Natalie Maynor said:
> > > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > > I would feel idiotic with colored toenails.
> > >
> > > Oh.  I mistakenly read your earlier posting as saying that you did
> > > sometimes wear it.
> >
> >No. I wear pale, flesh-toned nailpolish on my fingernails sometimes,
> >but the idea of wearing anything on my toenails totally squicks me.
>
> Do you have pudgy toes?

No.

> I just recently started getting pedicures and have
> painted toes.  It's fun.
>
> Betty, whorish

Good for you! Just because it squicks me doesn't mean I don't think
anyone else shouldn't do it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:15:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14884
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:15:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE7E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:21:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13147996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:27:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CER7Q25003 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:27:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D6F277DB1; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 07:25:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712142509.D6F277DB1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:25:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sucky Lips
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020712072005.00a7ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 12, 2002  7:21:40 am"

Betty said:
> At 06:39 AM 7/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >The idea of putting on lipstick to mow the grass amuses me.
> >
> >Karen
>
> ??  I'll always slather on the chap stick if I am going to be out side for
> any length of time, especially if it is hot out.

I do do this several times/day if I'm not wearing lipstick.

> Besides, Natalie wants to
> look her best when she mows.

That's the LOL part.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:15:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14888
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:15:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE7F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:22:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13148048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:27:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CERgQ25092 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:27:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6BC438276; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 07:26:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712142604.6BC438276@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:26:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: speaking of travel and unsending emails
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020712072249.00a30e10@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 12, 2002  7:23:43 am"

Betty said:
> At 06:59 AM 7/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >steph said:
> > > = >
> > > = > In Outlook you can recall messages, but I don't know if it works for
> > > = > distribution lists.
> > > =
> > > = Only if you have a very sloooooooow mail server. I've sent stuff to
> > > = long lists of people only to have to recall the message; about half of
> > > = 'em get it anyway.
> > > =
> > > = Karen
> > >
> > > It's not such a matter of getting it, as in if they get it, but
> > > they don't touch it then it can get zapped before they open it.
> > > Most of the time I see both the message and the recall message,
> > > but can still open the message.  If I click on the recall message
> > > first, it will zap the original.
> >
> >I knew that, but it seemed too complicated to explain.:)
>
> People go into great detail to try to help you but you don't want to explain??

Huh? Nobody's helping me with Outlook. It was Burton who was the lamer
who can't read the help.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:16:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14892
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:16:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE7F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:22:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13148058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:28:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CES1Q25133 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:28:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5B558824A; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 07:26:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712142647.5B558824A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:26:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sucky Lips
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2EE6C4.21E7833B@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 12,
              2002  9:25: 8 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> It's not really very easy to tell by looking whether I do or don't have
> on lipstick.  I use barely discernible colors.

You should definitely look into the Cover Girl stuff.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:18:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14899
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:18:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE833@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:24:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13148268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:30:12 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CEUCQ25485 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:30:12 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws119-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.119]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CEU7q09966
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:30:09 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2EE7ED.CC3F5778@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:30:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Frustrating
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I still can't find the pictures anywhere.  I looked on wojo, and they
weren't there either.  Who has them?  Where?  I am determined to
identify the offending pants.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:19:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14906
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:19:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE85A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:25:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13148414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:31:12 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CEVBQ25717 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:31:11 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-144.panax.com
          [65.114.190.144]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6CEVAj09038 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          10:31:10 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D2EC1DF.B630CFD3@maynor.net>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207112157260.17369-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020712103002.00a09a00@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:30:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020712070307.00a2ca90@uclink.berkeley.edu>

>Maybe I'm mis-remembering butts.  Check all your pants that you took with
>you.  Check the photos from Adam's house!  Those  are the ones.
>Betty

No, you are not mis-remembering.  You pointed it out to me at the
time.  But I didn't notice.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:20:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14910
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:20:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE86C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:26:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13148467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:31:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CEVrQ25819 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:31:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D13CC7E7F; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 07:31:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712143150.D13CC7E7F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:31:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Frustrating
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2EE7ED.CC3F5778@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 12,
              2002  9:30: 5 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> I still can't find the pictures anywhere.  I looked on wojo, and they
> weren't there either.  Who has them?  Where?  I am determined to
> identify the offending pants.

Did you search the archives to see if the Secret Location was posted?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:23:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14914
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:23:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE8A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:30:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13148644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:35:37 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CEZbQ26293 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:35:37 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ50065W4JCZX@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:35:37 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D2ED633.D6B989C1@maynor.net>
            <4.2.2.20020712072005.00a7ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D2EE8DE.9070309@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:34:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Sucky Lips
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> At 06:39 AM 7/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>
>> The idea of putting on lipstick to mow the grass amuses me.
>>
>> Karen
>
>
> ??  I'll always slather on the chap stick if I am going to be out side for
> any length of time, especially if it is hot out.  Besides, Natalie wants to
> look her best when she mows.
>


        I don't like the way anything on my lips feels.  Maybe it is
all in what you're used to.  My lips have never burned. Ana
usually wears the expensive-type freebie lipsticks I get
from Estee Lauder.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:27:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14921
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:27:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE913@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:33:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13148970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:39:26 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CEdQQ26851 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:39:26 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust242.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.244]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003874766@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:39:24 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F25LNydZ5fJ3wUpCfj10000a90b@hotmail.com>
            <4.2.2.20020711181659.00a644a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020711190555.00a2f7f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2EEA76.3B6D729B@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:40:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:
>
> The famous intern had a denim jumper.

I have a dark blue denim skirt, light blue denim dresses (2), and a
light blue denim jumper. This is important information, so file this
post for reference.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:28:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14928
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:28:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE923@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:34:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13149044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:40:10 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CEeAQ27029 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:40:10 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6CEe8qr000723 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:40:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020712071853.00a3aee0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020712073950.00a3c4a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:40:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712142337.6879D7CDC@yellow.rahul.net>

At 07:23 AM 7/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>Good for you! Just because it squicks me doesn't mean I don't think
>anyone else shouldn't do it.
>
>Karen


Is that a double negative?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:29:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14932
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:29:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE936@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:35:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13149107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:41:00 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CEf0Q27123 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:41:00 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust242.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.244]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003874796@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:40:59 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712015125.1C1DA8087@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D2E3DA4.453D1986@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2EEAD5.5B458D12@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:42:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>   I wear only clear polish.  But I always wear it.)

Karen and I meant colored toe polish when we were crossing it off the
list of desirable things.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:32:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14946
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:32:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE99D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:38:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13149452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:44:13 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CEiDQ27882 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:44:13 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws119-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.119]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CEiBq14426
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:44:11 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2EEB39.4ED1301A@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:44:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      YES!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I sent a message from wojo saying that I'd found the pictures and that
the pants were here:
http://www.maynor.net/pants.jpg
But that message hasn't been posted yet since I guess I'm not subscribed
from that address, meaning that my posting is going through <security
measures>.  Since sending it, I went and found the pants, and BB is
absolutely correct!  There's a rip along a seam.  The pants are now in
the Salvation Army bag.  Thank you, BB!
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:35:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14953
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:35:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAE9F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:41:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13148794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:47:09 -0400
Received: from zms1.imagestation.com ([147.208.133.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CEb9Q26543 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:37:09 -0400
Received: from www0.imagestation.com (www0.imagestation.com [216.35.12.20]) by
          zms1.imagestation.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24600 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:37:08 -0700
Received: (from apache@localhost) by www0.imagestation.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id
          HAA12627; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:37:08 -0700
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID:  <200207121437.HAA12627@www0.imagestation.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:37:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bclark@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU
Subject:      You've been invited to an album at Sony's ImageStation!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie, here is the album where you wore the whorish pants.

Click on the link below to see the ImageStation Album.

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291939687&code=3120177&mode=invite


If the above text isn't clickable, just cut and paste it into the address
bar of your browser (see the instructions at the bottom of this message).

Thanks for using ImageStation!

-----------------------------------------------------
Stay in touch. Save time.  Protect your memories.
Visit http://www.imagestation.com.

online photo albums and greeting cards.
-----------------------------------------------------

This message was sent to you by Betty Clark.


Need Some Help? Please See Below:

If your E-mail program does not recognize the above Web  address as an active
link, you can copy and paste the Web address into your Web browser.

Here's how (very easy):
1. Use your mouse to highlight the ENTIRE Web address above
2. Select the EDIT menu and choose COPY
3. Go to your Web browser and CLICK inside the window where
you normally type a Web address to visit
4. Select the EDIT menu and choose PASTE
5. Now hit ENTER on your keyboard to take you to the Web address


If you would like further assistance please email us at support@imagestation.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:36:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14960
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:36:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAEA0B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:42:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13149772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:47:56 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CEltQ28484 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:47:55 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust242.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.244]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003874928@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:47:51 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020711182400.00a2d100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020711190645.00a64af0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D2E3F68.876B444A@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2EEC71.9480D183@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:49:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>  I just checked both of them and found nothing at all
> frayed about their seams.

Betty did not say "frayed." It is more like when they are on your body,
the seam is stretched out as if it might burst. You might not be able to
see this with the pants in your hands.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:36:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14964
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:36:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011A003@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:48:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13149796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:48:21 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CEmKQ28534 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:48:20 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6CEmEqr029335 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:48:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020712074645.00a3b3e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:48:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: YES!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2EEB39.4ED1301A@maynor.net>

At 09:44 AM 7/12/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>I sent a message from wojo saying that I'd found the pictures and that
>the pants were here:
>http://www.maynor.net/pants.jpg
>But that message hasn't been posted yet since I guess I'm not subscribed
>from that address, meaning that my posting is going through <security
>measures>.  Since sending it, I went and found the pants, and BB is
>absolutely correct!  There's a rip along a seam.  The pants are now in
>the Salvation Army bag.  Thank you, BB!

They weren't the leopard ones at all!  I can't remember anything.   Didn't
it get a little drafty back there during our walk in the snow?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:37:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14968
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:37:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAEA2F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:44:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13149881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:49:37 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CEnbQ28707 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:49:37 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws119-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.119]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CEnYq16146
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:49:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020712074645.00a3b3e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2EEC7C.56AB22E7@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:49:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: YES!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> They weren't the leopard ones at all!  I can't remember anything.   Didn't
> it get a little drafty back there during our walk in the snow?

I don't remember feeling a draft, but then it wasn't really very cold
that day.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:38:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14972
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:38:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAEA3A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:44:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13149038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:50:09 -0400
Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (foobar@sleepy.wojomedia.com
          [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id
          g6CEe9Q27013 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          10:40:09 -0400
Received: (qmail 4391 invoked by uid 1016); 12 Jul 2002 14:40:08 -0000
Message-ID:  <20020712144008.4390.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:40:08 -0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: maynor@SLEEPY.WOJOMEDIA.COM
Subject:      Success!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Found the pictures -- on a CD.  Here are the pants:
http://www.maynor.net/pants.jpg

Now to go find those pants and check the seam!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:39:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14980
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:39:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAEA4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:45:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13149977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 10:51:08 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CEp8Q28940 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:51:08 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws119-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.119]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CEp5q16632
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:51:05 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020711182400.00a2d100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020711190645.00a64af0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D2E3F68.876B444A@maynor.net> <3D2EEC71.9480D183@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2EECD7.2A8B2ABB@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:51:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Betty did not say "frayed." It is more like when they are on your body,
> the seam is stretched out as if it might burst. You might not be able to
> see this with the pants in your hands.

That's what I was thinking except that I pulled on both of the ones I
looked at last night and couldn't make the seams look anything other
than totally secure and strong.  Now, however, thanks to the picture, I
know those weren't the right pants.  The ones BB was talking about have
a hole in them.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 04:55:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14993
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 04:55:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAEC2B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:01:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13151419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 11:06:56 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CF6uQ31874 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:06:56 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ5007K55ZJ22@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:06:56 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <4.2.2.20020711182400.00a2d100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020711190645.00a64af0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D2E3F68.876B444A@maynor.net> <3D2EEC71.9480D183@valstar.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2EF035.9070206@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:05:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
>> I just checked both of them and found nothing at all
>>frayed about their seams.
>>
>
> Betty did not say "frayed." It is more like when they are on your body,
> the seam is stretched out as if it might burst. You might not be able to
> see this with the pants in your hands.
>


Are you saying Natalie has a fat ass and doesn't know it?




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 05:06:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15013
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 05:06:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAED27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:12:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13152272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 11:18:18 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CFIIQ01403 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:18:18 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6CFIGD13640 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:18:16 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207121017520.13161-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:18:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: YES!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2EEB39.4ED1301A@maynor.net>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> absolutely correct!  There's a rip along a seam.  The pants are now in
> the Salvation Army bag.  Thank you, BB!

I wonder why she waited so long to tell you.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 05:12:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15035
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 05:12:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAEE49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:19:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13153199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 11:24:46 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CFOjQ03067 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:24:45 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6CFOge13864 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:24:42 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207121020110.13680-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:24:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEDGFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, S Hess wrote:

> And my CASA kid called this morning having learned she is losing the only
> real home she's known ...she's been in this foster home 2.5 yrs and the
> foster mom (on vacation) gave a 7 day notice and so the girl is being moved
> to I-Don't-Know-Where sometime tomorrow. She is frantic and I don't blame
> her. Threatening a kid with their home is a horrible way to manage a kid.
> I'm trying to do a lot of damage control and gather info on where they're
> placing her (probably a group home ... bad for her... but hopefully in the
> city).

I've been worrying about the CASA kid since I read this.  Is the foster
mom punishing her?  Or is the foster mom at the end of her rope with this
kid?  7 days notice, JEEZ.  I just read again what you said.  Is the
foster mom just threatening?

And congratulations for not damaging yourself with excess food under these
stresses.  And I say piss on that Man of Few Words, FEH outta here.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 05:19:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15047
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 05:19:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0011A4DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:30:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13153557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 11:30:58 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CFUwQ04004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:30:58 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6CFUuqr005202 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:30:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D2EEB39.4ED1301A@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020712083034.00a79e80@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:30:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: YES!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207121017520.13161-100000@og1.olagrande.net >

At 10:18 AM 7/12/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> > absolutely correct!  There's a rip along a seam.  The pants are now in
> > the Salvation Army bag.  Thank you, BB!
>
>I wonder why she waited so long to tell you.

I quickly forgot because I started looking at BIG cats.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 05:27:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15054
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 05:27:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0011A5C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:39:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13154193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 11:39:23 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CFdMQ05230 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:39:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CEE77825B; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 08:39:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712153918.CEE77825B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:39:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020712073950.00a3c4a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 12, 2002  7:40: 9 am"

Betty said:
> At 07:23 AM 7/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >Good for you! Just because it squicks me doesn't mean I don't think
> >anyone else shouldn't do it.
> >
> >Karen
>
>
> Is that a double negative?

Triple, I think.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 05:27:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15061
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 05:27:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011A5CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:39:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13154214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 11:39:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CFdeQ05263 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:39:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 089A7809D; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 08:39:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712153939.089A7809D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:39:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2EEAD5.5B458D12@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 12,
              2002 10:42:29 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Natalie Maynor wrote:
> >   I wear only clear polish.  But I always wear it.)
>
> Karen and I meant colored toe polish when we were crossing it off the
> list of desirable things.

No. I don't want stuff on my toes.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 05:36:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15079
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 05:36:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011A68E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:48:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13154114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 11:48:37 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CFcbQ05083 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:38:37 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6CFcbUh029959 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:38:37 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121138150.23249-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:38:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2ED5C3.58D895C@maynor.net>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> >would feel idiotic with brightly colored toenails or fingernails.
>>
>> I think you should try it, Natalie.
>
>Why?

Why not? You might like it.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 05:39:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15090
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 05:39:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAF0B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:45:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13154256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 11:50:49 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CFemQ05370 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:40:48 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6CFemUh030754 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:40:48 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121140280.23249-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:40:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2EDE72.78E02DE6@maynor.net>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>protective purposes -- protection from the elements, mainly sun.  I
>would never go outside for something like grass-cutting without making
>sure I had lipstick on.  There are no doubt other lip covers available
>for such purposes, but I'm too lazy to explore the possibilities.

Chapstick.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 05:40:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15094
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 05:40:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011A6FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:52:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13154351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 11:52:42 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CFggQ05604 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:42:42 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6CFggUh031289 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:42:42 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121141300.23249-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:42:42 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712140141.DCA048135@yellow.rahul.net>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> The dress sounds great.  Do women usually carry both a purse and a
>> briefcase?
>
>I think so.

If I carry both for a business purpose, I make certain that the purse is
small enough to fit inside the briefcase - especially for courtroom
purposes.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 05:58:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15137
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 05:58:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAF2E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:05:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13156933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 12:10:39 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CGAdQ10586 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:10:39 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6CGAcb22429 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          11:10:38 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <200207121437.HAA12627@www0.imagestation.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <009501c229be$db3b0b00$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:12:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: You've been invited to an album at Sony's ImageStation!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Enjoyed seeing the pictures.  Very good ones.

It's always interesting to compare actual pictures
with the pictures I have in my mind.

Bonnie doesn't look quite like I pictured her,
but I realize why.  I know someone here
named Bonnie, and she talks much like
Bonniemae talks, so in my mind Bonniemae
has the face of my neighbor.  And even tho
I've seen pictures of Bonniemae, in my mind
her voice and her face are still that of my
neighbor.  Weird.  (Not the face.  Both faces
are nice.)

Clyde looks exactly as I've imagined him.
Exactly.

First time I saw Natalie she looked exactly
as I'd pictured her.

Betty is recognizable in every picture
because of her whorishness.

                - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 06:39:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15191
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 06:39:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011ACC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:51:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13160354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 12:51:46 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6CGpkQ18149 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          12:51:46 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6CGpj4384592 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul
          2002 12:51:45 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEGFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:50:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712011214.CCE278071@yellow.rahul.net>

Just when a girl thinks a thread is dead, it takes on new life.

Yes....89 lbs. lost. Thanks for the clarification! :)

Turns out we arranged a reprieve for my CASA girl. She can stay in her
foster home for a month but they want to put her on meds. I hate that, in
general. And I don't think she will take them unless she is convinced of
their worthiness or her need for them. And thusfar she has refused to take
bloodtests for the doctor...so how can the professionals determine what she
should be on.

I'm taking her and her brother to lunch, a walk and then time at a library.
And I'm going to talk with her about meds and/or behavior modification of
sorts. As always...I'm just winging it...going by intuition and whatever
knowledge I've picked up along the way.

If she's depressed (possibly) ... she has reason to be. I'm not sure it's
physiological. I hate the idea of putting a young girl on meds particularly
when her parents are (he's now dead) chemically dependent on alcohol. Then
again, if she needs them, she needs them. But the pros are so eager to put
hard to handle kids on meds. She's just so damn needy.

I'm taking them to Nations for lunch....killer burgers. Not sure if I want
one or not. But if I have one...I am gonna enjoy it.

Sandra

>
> John Williams said:
> > > As of Monday, 89 lbs!!! Life goes on.
> >
> >     That is not a proper weight for an adult woman.
>
> Psst, John! She's talking about pounds lost. It's a good thing!
>
> Karen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 06:43:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15198
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 06:43:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAF730@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:50:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13160620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 12:55:41 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6CGtfQ18807 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          12:55:41 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6CGte4418322 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul
          2002 12:55:40 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEGGFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:54:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2E2BB6.89135E58@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>

> S Hess wrote:
>
> > The Man of Few Words had enough words left over to send me an
> email ending
> > things with me...
>
>     Gutless bastard.  You're well shed of him.
>
> > which makes sense since I learned he never ended it with
> > his last girlfriend....that hurt way more than him ending it with me.
>
>     Ah, well.  I've been collecting collateral damage from such
> shits my entire
> adult life.  Forget you ever knew him.
>
> > . Ok, he wasn't the right guy for me. That's clear.
>
>     He isn't the right guy for any vertebrate lifeform.
>
> > As of Monday, 89 lbs!!! Life goes on.
>
>     That is not a proper weight for an adult woman.  Have a bacon
> cheeseburger,
> a shake, and entertain thoughts of what would be a proper karmic
> retribution
> for such a duplicitous bastard.  If his 'girlfriend' went along
> with this his
> reward will not be long in coming.
>
> JMW

I'm going to take a break from the dating scene and focus on my real estate
studies. I'm not feeling like I want to trust my heart to anyone for a bit.
A change of focus is always good. This breakup isn't hurting much. It's so
much easier when the one you're dating turns out to be a "duplicitous
bastard."

:)

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 06:45:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15210
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 06:45:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAF757@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:52:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13160751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 12:57:37 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6CGvbQ19156 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          12:57:37 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6CGva4176612 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul
          2002 12:57:36 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEGGFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:56:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020711181100.00a6c100@uclink.berkeley.edu>

I can be very weepy but that's just part and parcel of being such a sap. I
remember bawling when watching Madame X and I was no more than 14. Not much
on tv lately has made me weep. Tonight I'm looking forward to a good laugh
with this new USA show called, MONK (SF based). It looks like good fun.

Sandra

> At 12:56 AM 7/12/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> >Betty:
> >>I used to get really mad at myself for crying so easily. I stopped for a
> >>long time but now the tear are really close to the surface again.  I cry
> >>for happy or sad. I cry during commercials and movies. Don't hate me,
> >>Rashmi.
> >
> >Bad Betty. Go back and read my post. I named Dubya, Letterman,
> >Halle Berry and the Ram's ex-coach as people whose tears annoyed
> >me. You and Natalie are not in the same league (sorry).
>
> Thank goodness!  I hate tears for show, too.  Clinton did that
> once that I saw.
>
> Betty
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 06:47:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15214
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 06:47:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011AD69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:59:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13160928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 12:59:22 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6CGxMQ19671 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          12:59:22 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6CGxL4210242 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul
          2002 12:59:21 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEGHFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:58:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020711182053.00a5e1c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

5'4" and the rest is true, too :)

Sandra

> At 08:18 PM 7/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >Karen Kay wrote:
> > >
> > > John Williams said:
> > > > > As of Monday, 89 lbs!!! Life goes on.
> > > >
> > > >     That is not a proper weight for an adult woman.
> > >
> > > Psst, John! She's talking about pounds lost. It's a good thing!
> >
> >I also first read it as her weight now and was on the verge of asking
> >her how tall she is since 89 seems pretty low to me for anybody much
> >over 5 feet.  Then I reconsidered and decided that wasn't what she
> >meant.
>
> I don't know if she is over 5 feet actually.  She is very friendly and
> approachable though.
>
> Betty
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 06:51:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15219
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 06:51:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAF7DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:57:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13161208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 13:03:13 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6CH3CQ20321 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          13:03:12 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6CH3C4369538 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul
          2002 13:03:12 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEGHFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:02:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712030720.278E3815F@yellow.rahul.net>

I'll pick one up today at Walgreen's. Sounds dreamy.

Sandra

>
> Ann Borkin said:
> > If indeed they are nonsmear and longlasting, I - - - might - -
> - try one.
>
> Janet and I were talking about this on list--these things are
> AMAZING!!! Cover Girl Longlasting Lipstick. Live it, love it.
>
> > FORGET IT.  Just the serious thought of it made me very
> embarrassed.  But
> > I think Karen can wear it a la [current] mode.
>
> I wear lipstick every day now, with no worries and not having to
> reapply it all the time.
>
> Karen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 06:53:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15233
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 06:53:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011ADEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:05:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13161362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 13:05:34 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6CH5YQ20548 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          13:05:34 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6CH5X4250832 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul
          2002 13:05:33 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEGIFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:04:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207112216240.18263-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

Isn't this just like the Mary Tyler Moore CHUCKES THE CLOWN episode? Without
the laughter preceding the breakdown, of course.

Sandra


> On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Anne H Toal wrote:
>
> > I stopped crying after my mother died. I felt something like scar tissue
> > grow over the emotional center that tears come from. I recall a definite
> > sense of hardening. For a week I did nothing but cry, then I
> willed myself
> > not to cry at the memorial service. Something happened to me
> then, and it's
> > never changed 8 years later.
>
> I was taken unawares at my father's funeral.  I didn't cry at any time
> about his death/life (he had Alzheimers so he died bit by bit) until the
> funer - - oops MEMORIAL SERVICE.  In fact I had been so busy and practical
> and hard working and unemotional beforehand that as I was washing dishes
> in my ma's tiny kitchen, after a lunch or supper before the M. S., I heard
> one relative reassure another "She feels just as bad as we do."
>
> Then I lost it at the funeral MEMORIAL SERVICE.  What I remember most is
> when people came past us going out of the service, there was my former
> science teacher coming toward me, and her face was grotesque, warped, with
> crying.  She was bawling.  So that was it - I had already been crying
> pretty hard but I started sobbing at her, we were sobbing at each other.
> Whenever I sob in public again like that I will see her twisted face.  I
> figure it mirrored my own.
>
> Hmmm I wonder how it would look with lipstick, bawling grotesque like that
> . . .
>
> Ann
>
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 07:02:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15246
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 07:02:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAF8CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:09:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13162027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 13:14:31 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CHEVQ22238 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:14:31 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6CHEU7Y423603 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          13:14:30 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000001c229c7$95f5a650$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:14:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEGFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of S Hess
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 12:51 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: 12 Sucky Hours
>
>
> Just when a girl thinks a thread is dead, it takes on new life.
>
> Yes....89 lbs. lost. Thanks for the clarification! :)
>
> Turns out we arranged a reprieve for my CASA girl. She can stay in her
> foster home for a month but they want to put her on meds. I
> hate that, in
> general.

Remind, what is a CASA girl?


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 07:12:57 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15281
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 07:12:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0011AFCF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:24:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13162817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 13:24:42 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6CHOgQ24456 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          13:24:42 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6CHOf4378164 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul
          2002 13:24:41 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEGJFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:23:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000001c229c7$95f5a650$48305b80@EAGLE72>

> > Turns out we arranged a reprieve for my CASA girl. She can stay in her
> > foster home for a month but they want to put her on meds. I
> > hate that, in
> > general.
>
> Remind, what is a CASA girl?
>
>
> alec

I'm a Court Appointed Special Advocate for a young girl (15) and her brother
(13) who are in foster care. I see them every week or two and I provide
regular reports to the dependency court on how they're doing, what they need
etc. I have access to all private records and in their case, I'm also their
Educational Surrogate Parent since their mother never bothers to show up at
any school meetings and can't be counted on to provide the necessary
signature at times.

The idea is to help keep them from slipping through the cracks...but,
really, what I think the most important thing I do, is having these kids
know that there is someone who knows them, cares for them, who is NOT paid
to do so. Someone who won't bail on them. Someone who will take their calls
at any hour. Someone who will listen to them and still spend time with them
even when they make bad decisions. Someone who loves them and looks out for
them when they can't do it for themselves. www.casa.org I've been with these
kids for over 3 yrs and I've been a CASA for over 6 or maybe 7 yrs. It's one
of the best things I've ever done; it makes my life more meaningful. Heck,
I'm even good at it. I'm not sure what I'd be like as a day in, day out
parent, but this I can do.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 07:13:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15288
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 07:13:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011AFE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:25:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13162925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 13:25:39 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CHPdQ24718 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:25:39 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc55 ([204.127.198.44]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020712172533.XNJI29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:25:33 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc55; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:25:32 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020712172533.XNJI29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:25:32 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>1) Banana Republic doesn't make clothes in my size and
>2) Tailored clothes look terrible on me.
>I have a squat, pudgy body, Alyce, and it's not easy
>finding clothes.
>Karen

3) Banana Republic doesn't make clothes for people over
25 anymore
4) They are ridiculously expensive for such poor quality.

I have a leaner body, with some risidual pudge and I
still can't wear clothes there and even if I could, I'm
too old and they're too ugly!

lisa
> alyce cresap said:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> > >
> > > alyce cresap said:
> > > > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > > > I know. I just got back from shopping--no luck. I kept finding nice,
> > > > > colorful things.
> > > >
> > > > Isn't there such a thing in Texas as a beige or white shirt and skirt?
> > >
> > > Yes, but this type of outfit would look awful on me. Ideally, I need a
> > > dress. Barring that, a tunic to wear with pants/skirt. I couldn't find
> > > any of those.
> > >
> > > > Are you looking in the right place?
> > >
> > > I have no idea. I haven't bought any clothes like this since I've been
> > > living here, and I went to the three places I know.
> >
> > Do you have Banana Republic?
>
> Yes.
>
> > I got two dresses there long, long
> > ago--plain cotton tailored. It's been so long since I've bought clothes,
> > I don't even know the names of places anymore.
>
> 1) Banana Republic doesn't make clothes in my size and
> 2) Tailored clothes look terrible on me.
>
> I have a squat, pudgy body, Alyce, and it's not easy finding clothes.
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 07:18:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15304
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 07:18:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAFA47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:24:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13163329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 13:29:57 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CHTvQ25788 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:29:57 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6CHTv7Y106771 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          13:29:57 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000101c229c9$be4c9350$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:29:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEGJFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

> -----Original Message----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of S Hess
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 1:24 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: 12 Sucky Hours
>
>
> > > Turns out we arranged a reprieve for my CASA girl. She
> can stay in her
> > > foster home for a month but they want to put her on meds. I
> > > hate that, in
> > > general.
> >
> > Remind, what is a CASA girl?
> >
> >
> > alec
>
> I'm a Court Appointed Special Advocate for a young girl (15)
> and her brother(13) who are in foster care.

Thanks for the info. The www.casa.org website takes me to a acappella
site.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 07:24:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15308
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 07:24:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAFADA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:31:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13163752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 13:36:43 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CHahQ26925 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:36:43 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6CHaf7Y403121 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          13:36:42 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000201c229ca$b01df0c0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:36:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712172533.XNJI29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lisa Alfieri
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 1:26 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
>
>
> >1) Banana Republic doesn't make clothes in my size and
> >2) Tailored clothes look terrible on me.
> >I have a squat, pudgy body, Alyce, and it's not easy
> >finding clothes.
> >Karen
>
> 3) Banana Republic doesn't make clothes for people over
> 25 anymore
> 4) They are ridiculously expensive for such poor quality.
>
> I have a leaner body, with some risidual pudge and I
> still can't wear clothes there and even if I could, I'm
> too old and they're too ugly!
>
> lisa

Damn, I looked at their website and their prices are crazy.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 07:28:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15315
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 07:28:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011B13B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:40:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13163927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 13:40:44 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CHeiQ27410 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:40:44 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust70.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.72]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005185311@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 13:40:43 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712172533.XNJI29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F14F0.12B54523@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:42:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lisa Alfieri wrote:
>
> 3) Banana Republic doesn't make clothes for people over
> 25 anymore
> 4) They are ridiculously expensive for such poor quality.

That's too bad. They had great clothes before the stores. I still have
and wear my BR clothes ca. 1980-1985. I love them.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 07:43:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15333
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 07:43:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011B292@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:55:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13164961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 13:55:24 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CHtOQ30217 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:55:24 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws78-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.78]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CHtMq13889
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:55:22 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F1808.FF3E519A@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:55:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Bathing Birds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Are the dogs going to catch diseases from the birds that insist bathing
in the outside water bowl?  The dogs use the inside bowls most of the
time but occasionally use the outside bowl.  These birds flop their
whole bodies into the bowl and flap their wings.  Disgusting.

My Russian visa arrived today.  I hope the correct info is on it.  I
can't read it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 07:44:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15341
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 07:44:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAFC8C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:50:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 13:56:15 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CHuFQ30338 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:56:15 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws78-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.78]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CHu6q14193
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:56:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020711182400.00a2d100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020711190645.00a64af0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D2E3F68.876B444A@maynor.net> <3D2EEC71.9480D183@valstar.net>
            <3D2EF035.9070206@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F1834.91611EF6@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:56:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> Are you saying Natalie has a fat ass and doesn't know it?

Knowing about a fat ass doesn't necessarily mean knowing about holy
pants.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 07:46:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15351
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 07:46:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAFCAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:52:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 13:57:50 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CHvoQ30609 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:57:50 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ500F57DWDYS@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:57:49 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020712172533.XNJI29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
            <3D2F14F0.12B54523@valstar.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2F1843.6090507@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:56:19 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Lisa Alfieri wrote:
>
>>3) Banana Republic doesn't make clothes for people over
>>25 anymore
>>4) They are ridiculously expensive for such poor quality.
>>
>
> That's too bad. They had great clothes before the stores. I still have
> and wear my BR clothes ca. 1980-1985. I love them.
>

        I had some clothes from them from the same time period.  Of
course, I couldn't wear them now even if I still owned them
-- I was much skinnier as a teenager than I am now -- but
they were nice and classic and well-made back then.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 07:46:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15355
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 07:46:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAFCAF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:52:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 13:58:03 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CHw3Q30663 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:58:03 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws78-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.78]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CHvuq14903
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:58:00 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207121017520.13161-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F18A2.1BAD1109@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:57:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: YES!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> I wonder why she waited so long to tell you.

Didn't matter.  Those pants went back into the out-of-season closet as
soon as I got back from SB.  And they wouldn't have gone to Finland
anyway.  They're way too wintry.  They're also quite ancient.  Tis time
for them to go.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 07:46:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15359
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 07:46:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAFCB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:52:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 13:58:07 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CHw7Q30669 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:58:07 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust70.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.72]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005185679@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 13:58:05 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2F1808.FF3E519A@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F1902.9ADDA78C@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:59:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Bathing Birds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Are the dogs going to catch diseases from the birds that insist bathing
> in the outside water bowl?

It is feasible, but unlikely. I think that there are not many bird
diseases that would transfer to dogs, except maybe West Nile Virus. But
the dogs can get them directly from a mosquito, too.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 07:47:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15365
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 07:47:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAFCD6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:53:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 13:59:23 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CHxMQ30848 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:59:22 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws78-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.78]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CHxIq15382
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:59:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121138150.23249-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F18F4.1BD7FB63@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:59:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
> >> >would feel idiotic with brightly colored toenails or fingernails.
> >>
> >> I think you should try it, Natalie.
> >
> >Why?
>
> Why not? You might like it.

I can't imagine finding any pleasure in decorating my nails at this
stage in life.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 07:54:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15375
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 07:54:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAFD83@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:00:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 14:05:56 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CI5uQ32171 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:05:56 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6CI5t7Y507403 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          14:05:56 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000301c229ce$c50d4c20$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:05:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Bathing Birds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F1808.FF3E519A@maynor.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Bathing Birds
>
>
> Are the dogs going to catch diseases from the birds that
> insist bathing
> in the outside water bowl?  The dogs use the inside bowls most of the
> time but occasionally use the outside bowl.  These birds flop their
> whole bodies into the bowl and flap their wings.  Disgusting.
>
> My Russian visa arrived today.  I hope the correct info is on it.  I
> can't read it.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>

One of the vets I work with say most likely, no.

alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 07:54:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15382
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 07:54:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAFD84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:00:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 14:06:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CI69Q32200 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:06:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws78-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.78]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CI5oq17574
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:05:53 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2F1808.FF3E519A@maynor.net> <3D2F1902.9ADDA78C@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F1A7B.6E05C1C6@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:05:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Bathing Birds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> It is feasible, but unlikely. I think that there are not many bird
> diseases that would transfer to dogs, except maybe West Nile Virus. But
> the dogs can get them directly from a mosquito, too.

It just occurred to me that I could ask the vet since Spencer has a 3:00
appointment for his shots.  But imftaotl.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 07:55:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15386
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 07:55:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011B3B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:07:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 14:07:05 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CI75Q32381 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:07:05 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws78-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.78]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CI73q18000
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:07:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000301c229ce$c50d4c20$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F1AC4.F00A2BB7@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:07:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Bathing Birds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:

> One of the vets I work with say most likely, no.

Thank you.  And thank him/her.  And thank you, Alyce.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 07:59:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15390
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 07:59:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAFDFE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:05:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 14:11:15 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CIBFQ00570 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:11:15 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6CIBAhM029533 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:11:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207121017520.13161-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020712111048.00a66de0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:11:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: YES!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F18A2.1BAD1109@maynor.net>

At 12:57 PM 7/12/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Ann Borkin wrote:
>
> > I wonder why she waited so long to tell you.
>
>Didn't matter.  Those pants went back into the out-of-season closet as
>soon as I got back from SB.  And they wouldn't have gone to Finland
>anyway.  They're way too wintry.  They're also quite ancient.  Tis time
>for them to go.

I thought that, too.  You best review your wardrobe. Maybe you keep things
too long.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 08:03:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15403
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 08:03:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EAFE65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:09:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 14:15:12 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CIFBQ01389 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:15:11 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws78-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.78]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CIEuq20302
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:15:01 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207121017520.13161-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <4.2.2.20020712111048.00a66de0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F1C9E.7CE8C076@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:14:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: YES!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> >anyway.  They're way too wintry.  They're also quite ancient.  Tis time
> >for them to go.
>
> I thought that, too.  You best review your wardrobe. Maybe you keep things
> too long.

I'm not really a packrat with clothes.  But I have to have something to
put on.  I haven't bought any clothes in ages now and thus have to have
some old ones if I want to be clad.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 08:07:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15422
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 08:07:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0011B4F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:18:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 14:18:47 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CI8lQ32577 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:08:47 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6CI8kUh012039 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:08:46 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121408260.18289-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:08:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F18F4.1BD7FB63@maynor.net>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> >> >would feel idiotic with brightly colored toenails or fingernails.
>> >>
>> >> I think you should try it, Natalie.
>> >
>> >Why?
>>
>> Why not? You might like it.
>
>I can't imagine finding any pleasure in decorating my nails at this
>stage in life.

There is only one way to find out.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 08:23:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15441
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 08:23:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB001F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:29:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 14:35:03 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CIZ3Q04558 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:35:03 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020712183454.HBMZ24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:34:54 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEGJFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020712112248.02531e60@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:31:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000101c229c9$be4c9350$48305b80@EAGLE72>

Alec D. Plotkin writes,

>Thanks for the info. The www.casa.org website takes me to a acappella
>site.

(Reminds me, I've been meaning to order some a capella
<http://www.varsityvocals.com/boca.html>.)

See instead <http://www.nationalcasa.org/>.

There is also a portal for CASA/GAL (Guardian ad Litem) program staff and
volunteers:

<http://www.casanet.org/>

Also see more local organizations, e.g.:

<www.supreme.state.az.us/casa/>
<www.californiacasa.org>, <http://www.sfcasa.org/>
<www.gacasa.org>
<www.courts.state.ri.us/family/casa.html>
<www.virginiacasa.org>

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 08:25:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15448
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 08:25:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB004D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:31:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13168050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 14:37:10 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CIbAQ04797 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:37:10 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6CIb4hM020396 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:37:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207121017520.13161-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <4.2.2.20020712111048.00a66de0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020712113636.00a2f8a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:37:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: YES!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F1C9E.7CE8C076@maynor.net>

At 01:14 PM 7/12/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > >anyway.  They're way too wintry.  They're also quite ancient.  Tis time
> > >for them to go.
> >
> > I thought that, too.  You best review your wardrobe. Maybe you keep things
> > too long.
>
>I'm not really a packrat with clothes.  But I have to have something to
>put on.  I haven't bought any clothes in ages now and thus have to have
>some old ones if I want to be clad.

But surely it is not proper for a nice Southern girl to run around baring
her ass.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 09:22:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15524
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 09:22:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB058B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:28:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13171966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 15:34:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CJYRQ14092 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:34:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DA8058084; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 12:34:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712193426.DA8058084@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:34:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      I'm back
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The black dress was exactly right; I ended up w/ only a briefcase and
no purse because the purse I was planning to use wasn't where I
thought it was.

The meeting went very well, I think. Now I wait!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 09:27:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15531
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 09:27:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB05E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:33:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13172243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 15:38:52 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CJcqQ14804 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:38:52 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6CJcn7b000224 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:38:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020712123830.00a783a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:38:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I'm back
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712193426.DA8058084@yellow.rahul.net>

At 12:34 PM 7/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>The black dress was exactly right; I ended up w/ only a briefcase and
>no purse because the purse I was planning to use wasn't where I
>thought it was.
>
>The meeting went very well, I think. Now I wait!

Crossing fingers and polished toes!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 09:31:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15546
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 09:31:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB065D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:37:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13172438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 15:43:25 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CJhPQ15390 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:43:25 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust209.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.211]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005187887@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 15:43:17 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712193426.DA8058084@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F31CD.710EC67F@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:45:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: I'm back
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> The black dress was exactly right;

Perfect!

> The meeting went very well, I think.

Good.

> Now I wait!

Sigh

alyce



--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 09:31:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15550
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 09:31:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB0662@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:38:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13172453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 15:43:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CJhaQ15421 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:43:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 47B07807D; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 12:43:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712194335.47B07807D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:43:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I'm back
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020712123830.00a783a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 12, 2002 12:38:49 pm"

Betty said:
> At 12:34 PM 7/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >The black dress was exactly right; I ended up w/ only a briefcase and
> >no purse because the purse I was planning to use wasn't where I
> >thought it was.
> >
> >The meeting went very well, I think. Now I wait!
>
> Crossing fingers and polished toes!

Thank you.

They did ask me if I would mind moving to Japan. (I said no way.) We
compromised on visiting often.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 09:33:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15554
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 09:33:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB0680@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:39:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13172532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 15:44:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CJihQ15561 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:44:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2A6F18288; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 12:44:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712194443.2A6F18288@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:44:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I'm back
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F31CD.710EC67F@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 12,
              2002  3:45:17 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > The black dress was exactly right;
>
> Perfect!
>
> > The meeting went very well, I think.
>
> Good.
>
> > Now I wait!
>
> Sigh

I'm going to the birthday party at the mansion tonight, with free
booze, and I'm not driving--I imagine I will find a way to make the
time pass!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 09:53:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15571
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 09:53:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0011BE4C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:04:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13173204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 16:04:51 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CJspQ16943 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:54:51 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41ADBCA3 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:54:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6CJsoW92142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:54:50
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020712145450.A91935@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:54:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Another of my extremely unemployable erstwhile laid-off coworkers
started work yesterday. That completes the list--everyone's with
a job or in school.

Except for those who have deliberately cut off contact, and they
might be doing OK too, who knows.

What an incredible ride it's been for these dotcommers ... the
pain, the suffering, lasted almost 18 months or so ... you know
what a huge fraction of your life that is?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 09:53:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15578
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 09:53:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB086D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:59:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13173882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 16:05:28 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6CK5SQ18331 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          16:05:28 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6CK5R472808 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          16:05:27 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEHBFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:04:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207121020110.13680-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

> On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, S Hess wrote:
>
> > And my CASA kid called this morning having learned she is
> losing the only
> > real home she's known ...she's been in this foster home 2.5 yrs and the
> > foster mom (on vacation) gave a 7 day notice and so the girl is
> being moved
> > to I-Don't-Know-Where sometime tomorrow. She is frantic and I
> don't blame
> > her. Threatening a kid with their home is a horrible way to
> manage a kid.
> > I'm trying to do a lot of damage control and gather info on
> where they're
> > placing her (probably a group home ... bad for her... but
> hopefully in the
> > city).
>
> I've been worrying about the CASA kid since I read this.  Is the foster
> mom punishing her?  Or is the foster mom at the end of her rope with this
> kid?  7 days notice, JEEZ.  I just read again what you said.  Is the
> foster mom just threatening?
>
> And congratulations for not damaging yourself with excess food under these
> stresses.  And I say piss on that Man of Few Words, FEH outta here.
>
> Ann

Thank you and Thank you.

This foster parent has been, basically, an angel. Keeping her after so many
homes had kicked her out for not attending school. The foster mom even took
her with her to her job (at a child day care center) when B (I have to keep
it anonymous) refused to go. Finally, I found a combination of schools that
would work for her and we slowly grooved her back into school.

Every morning, B refuses to get up. The foster mom, Pat, has 3 other foster
girls (teens). B is a handful...very needy and loud. Everymorning is high
drama. Pat telling her to get up several times, and arguing about how she
needs to go to school. B says she needs more sleep (she goes to bed at 9pm
and wakes up at 6am). So, they start each day pissed off. It's draining. Pat
is paid more for B because she's a handful, but she's tired of it.

When nothing else works, foster parents often use the 7 day notice as a
threat. It's beyond damaging and injurious. Imagine threatening to take away
a kid's home from them... B has been there over 2.5 yrs...it's the longest
she's ever had a home and a parent. Her best friend is her roommate (who is
one of 7 kids in foster care...all in different homes. Now there's a good
story...there is one young CASA volunteer... she is the CASA for all 7 of
those kids. That's her "full-time job." She's a former Dotcommer who made
out with big bucks at a young age. And she volunteers full-time to be those
7 brothers' and sisters' CASA. That's just amazing.) And amazingly enough,
her brother is in a separate foster home just blocks from her foster home
which allows them to see each other frequently. Before they were across town
and rarely had the chance to see each other outside of very undependable,
artificial and official visits.

B once called me complaining her foster mom keeps calling her a "child." I
reminded her gently that she is only 14 and people will still of her and
call her a child from time to time. She said, "if I'm just a child, I should
be up in my room, playing videos. I shouldn't be worrying about where I'm
going to sleep tomorrow." Ouch.

Lunch didn't work out today. She called me, having forgotten that she had a
previous commitment. So, I'll see them Tues and take them to Great America.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 09:55:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15582
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 09:55:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB088C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:01:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13173984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 16:07:26 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6CK7QQ18608 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          16:07:26 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6CK7P4110350 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul
          2002 16:07:26 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEHCFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:06:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000101c229c9$be4c9350$48305b80@EAGLE72>

My bad... try this....www.sfcasa.com

Sandra

> > > Remind, what is a CASA girl?
> > >
> > >
> > > alec
> >
> > I'm a Court Appointed Special Advocate for a young girl (15)
> > and her brother(13) who are in foster care.
>
> Thanks for the info. The www.casa.org website takes me to a acappella
> site.
>
>
> alec
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 09:56:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15586
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 09:56:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011BE8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:08:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13174022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 16:08:09 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6CK89Q18679 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          16:08:09 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6CK884351574 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul
          2002 16:08:08 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEHCFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:07:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bathing Birds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F1808.FF3E519A@maynor.net>

wow...that's exciting! I hope to go to the Ukraine one day. That's where my
mother's family is from.

Sandra

> My Russian visa arrived today.  I hope the correct info is on it.  I
> can't read it.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 10:05:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15604
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 10:05:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0011BF48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:16:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13174422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 16:16:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CKGgQ19656 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:16:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9D95B8084; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 13:16:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712201641.9D95B8084@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:16:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712145450.A91935@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Jul 12,
              2002  2:54:50 pm"

Tushar Samant said:
> Another of my extremely unemployable erstwhile laid-off coworkers
> started work yesterday. That completes the list--everyone's with
> a job or in school.

Not me, man.

> What an incredible ride it's been for these dotcommers ... the
> pain, the suffering, lasted almost 18 months or so ... you know
> what a huge fraction of your life that is?

Well, it's more of their lives than mine, but I have more riding on it
than they probably do.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 10:42:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15656
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 10:42:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB0CA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:48:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 16:53:48 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CKrmQ24441 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:53:48 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc57 ([204.127.198.46]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020712205343.GCKG29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:53:43 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc57; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:53:42 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020712205343.GCKG29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:53:42 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I believe Macy's is owned by Federated Department stores.
Off the top of my head I can't remember who else is in
Federated's stable but I know they do have additional big
names.

lisa
> Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> > Do most of you buy your clothes at smallish shops -- or maybe not
> > <smallish> -- shops that specialize in clothes?  All the clothes
> > shopping I do is at ordinary department stores (none of which exist in
> > Starkville, of course).  Naming the names of these stores wouldn't be
> > meaningful since they're not known out of this region -- McRae's,
> > Parisian, Dillards.  They're of a kind with Macy's.
>
>
> I normally shop at department stores.  I've shopped at
> Dillards both here and in Ohio.  I thought maybe Macy's was
> owned by May Company, but it isn't.  In any case, a lot of
> your "middle-class" stores are.  According to the website,
> they own Famous-Barr, Strawbridges, Filene's, Lord & Taylor,
>   Kaufmann's, Foley's, etc.  Their ad campaign for all these
> stores is "The Right Choices Make all the Difference."
>
>
>
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita
>
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 10:44:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15663
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 10:44:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011C288@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:56:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 16:56:19 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CKkJQ23673 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:46:19 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4E7BC09 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:46:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6CKkIt93307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:46:18
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020712145450.A91935@pobox.com>
            <20020712201641.9D95B8084@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020712154618.A93253@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:46:18 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712201641.9D95B8084@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 01:16:41PM -0700

On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 01:16:41PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> Tushar Samant said:
> > Another of my extremely unemployable erstwhile laid-off coworkers
> > started work yesterday. That completes the list--everyone's with
> > a job or in school.
>
> Not me, man.

I KNOW. Duhh

> > What an incredible ride it's been for these dotcommers ... the
> > pain, the suffering, lasted almost 18 months or so ... you know
> > what a huge fraction of your life that is?
>
> Well, it's more of their lives than mine, but I have more riding on it
> than they probably do.

Well, most seemed to have supportive parents, for one ...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 10:49:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15682
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 10:49:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011C372@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:01:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 17:01:31 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CKpVQ24190 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:51:31 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6CKpVUh000479 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:51:31 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121646560.22762-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:51:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Sharebuilder.com fees
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Apparently I misinterpreted the "recurring transactions" fee statement
from ShareBuilder.com. Though they say that recurring transactions incur
only a $4 fee, it appears that there is actually a $4 monthly fee - which
changes the picture quite a bit. $4 is still low - but it's a high
percentage of, say, $50. The max fee for a month - regardless of number of
transactions - is $12. If one is going to pay $144 a year in annual fees
(there are no other fees), one should invest more than a few dollars a
month. I have written for clarification - but I think this is right.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 10:54:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15688
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 10:54:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB0F32@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:00:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 17:05:55 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CKtsQ24642 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:55:55 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D175BDC7 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:55:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6CKtsl93476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:55:54
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020712155554.B93253@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:55:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Nobody has answered this question yet: how do you hyphenate (the
noun phrase) "8 year old"? An 8-year-old? An 8-year old? What?

I'd also like some theories about the bizarre surge in baby girls
being named Hannah, and Hailey and Madison. I didn't even know
the last two could be valid names, but apparently there's a tidal
wave of them coming ... Always remember, anything's better than
Jennifer

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 11:01:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15705
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 11:01:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB0FBD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:07:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 17:12:44 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CLCiQ27863 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:12:44 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6CLCe7b004839 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:12:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020712141228.00a3d100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:12:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Sharebuilder.com fees
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121646560.22762-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

Is this just an FYI?

Betty

At 04:51 PM 7/12/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Apparently I misinterpreted the "recurring transactions" fee statement
>from ShareBuilder.com. Though they say that recurring transactions incur
>only a $4 fee, it appears that there is actually a $4 monthly fee - which
>changes the picture quite a bit. $4 is still low - but it's a high
>percentage of, say, $50. The max fee for a month - regardless of number of
>transactions - is $12. If one is going to pay $144 a year in annual fees
>(there are no other fees), one should invest more than a few dollars a
>month. I have written for clarification - but I think this is right.
>
>Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 11:04:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15709
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 11:04:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB0FF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:10:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 17:15:46 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CL5kQ26987 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:05:46 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2EC96EE for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:05:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6CL5jS93774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:05:45
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020712160545.C93253@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:05:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Damn, missed the other question I was going to post: remember how
Adam found the word "wiki" silly? Well so did I, and I can't get
rid of the feeling. Now it is true that every online Hawaiian
word list I have seen lists "wikiwiki" as a word for "quick".
But there is another. My completely irrational guess, based
on looking at other words, is that wikiwiki is a "low prestige"
word. It is used by the lower classes. And the people who have
borrowed it don't understand this.

How right am I?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 11:07:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15721
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 11:07:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1073@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:13:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 17:19:22 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CLJMQ28671 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:19:22 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-131.panax.com
          [65.114.190.131]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6CLJKj18712 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          17:19:21 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020712171846.00b61078@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:19:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sharebuilder.com fees
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121646560.22762-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

At 04:51 PM 7/12/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Apparently I misinterpreted the "recurring transactions" fee statement
>from ShareBuilder.com. Though they say that recurring transactions incur
>only a $4 fee, it appears that there is actually a $4 monthly fee - which
>changes the picture quite a bit.

Thank you for that incredibly interesting update.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 11:10:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15728
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 11:10:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB10B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:16:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 17:21:51 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CLLpQ28966 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:21:51 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-131.panax.com
          [65.114.190.131]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6CLLoj19620 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          17:21:50 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020712172003.00b60e90@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:21:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712145450.A91935@pobox.com>

At 02:54 PM 7/12/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:
>What an incredible ride it's been for these dotcommers ... the
>pain, the suffering, lasted almost 18 months or so ... you know
>what a huge fraction of your life that is?

For me, my calculation arrives at ca. 2.34%.  Your mileage may vary.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 11:13:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15736
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 11:13:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB10DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:19:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 17:25:16 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CLPEQ29348 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:25:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DAD567D14; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 14:25:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712212510.DAD567D14@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:25:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712205343.GCKG29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> from
              Lisa Alfieri at "Jul 12, 2002  8:53:42 pm"

Lisa Alfieri said:
> I believe Macy's is owned by Federated Department stores.
> Off the top of my head I can't remember who else is in
> Federated's stable but I know they do have additional big
> names.

Lazarus in Columbus, OH.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 11:13:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15743
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 11:13:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB10DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:19:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 17:25:29 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CLFTQ28093 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:15:29 -0400
Received: from web21510.mail.yahoo.com ([66.163.169.59]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6CHtNZ32202 for
          <WORDS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:55:24 -0400
Received: from [217.78.76.223] by web21510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 12 Jul
          2002 10:55:23 PDT
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Message-ID:  <20020712175523.38970.qmail@web21510.mail.yahoo.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:55:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: christain demola <cecci_v@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      BUSINESS PROPOSAL
Comments: To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

ENGR.CHRISTIAN DEMOLA DIRECTOR, MINERALS & NATURAL RESOURCES, SOUTH AFRICAN MINISTRY OFMINING & MINERAL RESOURCES, (SMMR)PRETORIA, REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICAEmail: cecci_v@yahoo.com Sir,It is my pleasure to write you this letter on behalfof my colleagues. I have decided to seek aconfidential co-operation with you in executing of adeal hereunder for the benefit of all parties, andhope you will keep it confidential because of thenature of this business.I am the Director of Mineral and Natural Resources ofthe South African Ministry of Mining and MineralResources (SMMR) and I have the co-operation of twoother top officials, we have in our possession anoverdue payment in US funds.The funds represent some percentage of the contractexecuted on behalf of my ministry by a foreign firm,which we over-invoiced to the amount ofUS$15,500,000.00 (Fifteen Million Five HundredThousand United States Dollars.) Though the actualcontract cost has been paid to the originalcontractor, leaving the ex!
cess balance unclaimed.Since the present Government is determined to payforeign contractors all debts owed, so as to maintaingood relationship with other governments. As a resultwe include our bills for approvals with theco-operation of some officials at the Federal Ministryof Finance.We are seeking your assistance as the Beneficiary ofthe unclaimed funds, since we are not allowed tooperate a foreign account.We hereby propose that, should you be willing toassist us in this transaction your share ascompensation will be 30% while my colleagues and Ireceive 60% and 10% for miscellaneous expenses.This business itself is 100% safe, provided you treatit with utmost confidentiality. I have reposed myconfidence in you and hope that you will notdisappoint us.Kindly notify me by Email : cecci_v@yahoo.com forfurther details, upon your acceptance of thisproposal.Best Regards,Engr. christian demola



---------------------------------
Do You Yahoo!?
New! SBC Yahoo! Dial - 1st Month Free & unlimited access

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 11:13:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15747
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 11:13:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB10E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:20:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 17:25:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CLPZQ29384 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:25:35 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1EEF07E65; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 14:25:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712212534.1EEF07E65@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:25:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712154618.A93253@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Jul 12,
              2002  3:46:18 pm"

Tushar Samant said:
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 01:16:41PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> > Tushar Samant said:
> > > Another of my extremely unemployable erstwhile laid-off coworkers
> > > started work yesterday. That completes the list--everyone's with
> > > a job or in school.
> >
> > Not me, man.
>
> I KNOW. Duhh
>
> > > What an incredible ride it's been for these dotcommers ... the
> > > pain, the suffering, lasted almost 18 months or so ... you know
> > > what a huge fraction of your life that is?
> >
> > Well, it's more of their lives than mine, but I have more riding on it
> > than they probably do.
>
> Well, most seemed to have supportive parents, for one ...

Yeah. I have dead parents.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 11:16:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15757
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 11:16:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011C628@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:27:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 17:27:58 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CLRvQ29697 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:27:58 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B9AAA7CAD; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 14:27:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020712212756.B9AAA7CAD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:27:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712155554.B93253@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Jul 12,
              2002  3:55:54 pm"

Tushar Samant said:
> Nobody has answered this question yet: how do you hyphenate (the
> noun phrase) "8 year old"? An 8-year-old?

When the phrase is used attributively--so it's an 8-year-old computer.

> An 8-year old?

This would refer to an 8-year-old human. Or horse or whatever.

> What?

What what?

> I'd also like some theories about the bizarre surge in baby girls
> being named Hannah, and Hailey and Madison. I didn't even know
> the last two could be valid names, but apparently there's a tidal
> wave of them coming ... Always remember, anything's better than
> Jennifer

Return to the heartland.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 11:17:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15761
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 11:17:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0011C636@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:28:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 17:28:43 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CLIhQ28597 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:18:43 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6CLIhUh014098 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:18:43 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121718140.22762-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:18:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Sharebuilder.com fees
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020712141228.00a3d100@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

>Is this just an FYI?

As far as I know. I did not want to mislead anyone.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 11:24:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15765
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 11:24:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1214@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:30:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13181021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 17:35:49 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CLZmQ32079 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:35:48 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6CLZj7b015083 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:35:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020712141228.00a3d100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020712143525.00a3e100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:35:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Sharebuilder.com fees
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121718140.22762-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

At 05:18 PM 7/12/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
>
> >Is this just an FYI?
>
>As far as I know. I did not want to mislead anyone.

Thanks.  I thought it was a journal entry again.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 11:35:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15792
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 11:35:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB12F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:41:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13181163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 17:46:59 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CLaxQ32357 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:36:59 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6CLaxUh019240 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:36:59 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121736190.22762-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:36:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Sharebuilder.com fees
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020712143525.00a3e100@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

>Thanks.  I thought it was a journal entry again.

Hmmm ... what kind of journal would that be?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 11:42:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15807
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 11:42:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1341@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:48:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13182112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 17:54:10 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CLsAQ02382 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:54:10 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6CLs87b018581 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:54:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020712143525.00a3e100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020712145353.00a3ecd0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:54:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Sharebuilder.com fees
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121736190.22762-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

At 05:36 PM 7/12/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
>
> >Thanks.  I thought it was a journal entry again.
>
>Hmmm ... what kind of journal would that be?

Your investment journal?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 12:28:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15849
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 12:28:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB15F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:34:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13184238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 18:39:40 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CMdeQ06611 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:39:40 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id PAA07509 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          15:39:39 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207121538540.5861-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:39:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2EC34E.E7D73CDC@maynor.net>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Sharon Ziperovich wrote:
>
> > The dress sounds great.  Do women usually carry both a purse and a
> > briefcase?
>
> If I carry a briefcase, I'll also be carrying a purse.  They hold
> different kinds of items.
>
  I've always wondered how men carry those items.  don't they feel
vulnerable and unprepared out in the world without a purse?

  Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 12:31:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15858
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 12:31:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1627@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:37:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13183999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 18:42:49 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CMWnQ06017 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:32:49 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6CMWmUh003416 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:32:48 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121832200.29650-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:32:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Sharebuilder.com fees
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020712145353.00a3ecd0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

>> >Thanks.  I thought it was a journal entry again.
>>
>>Hmmm ... what kind of journal would that be?
>
>Your investment journal?

Maybe I should have one -

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 12:32:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15862
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 12:32:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1644@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:38:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13184487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 18:44:28 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CMiSQ07107 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:44:28 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id PAA09937 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          15:44:26 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207121540170.5861-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:44:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712123910.EC2807F65@yellow.rahul.net>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> I would feel idiotic with colored toenails.
>
I paint my nails a bright red when I know I'm going to be swimming.  Then
I float on my back and watch the happy sight of my toes poking up out of
the water.

  Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 12:40:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15876
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 12:40:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1699@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:47:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13184383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 18:52:31 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CMgVQ06925 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:42:31 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6CMgUUh006642 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:42:30 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121841360.29650-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:42:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207121538540.5861-100000@idiom.com>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Sharon Ziperovich wrote:

>> If I carry a briefcase, I'll also be carrying a purse.  They hold
>> different kinds of items.
>>
>  I've always wondered how men carry those items.  don't they feel
>vulnerable and unprepared out in the world without a purse?

Isn't it only - or primarily - American/US men who do not carry them?

Of course, they have all those pockets.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 12:51:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15895
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 12:51:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB170A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:57:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13184850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:03:20 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CMrJQ08018 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:53:20 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A1B5DE0 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:53:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6CMrJd51271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:53:19
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121646560.22762-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020712171846.00b61078@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020712175319.A51192@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:53:19 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sharebuilder.com fees
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020712171846.00b61078@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 05:19:15PM -0400

On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 05:19:15PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> Thank you for that incredibly interesting update.

You understand that you must pay royalty for this sentence,
Dr Voigtlander.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 12:56:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15905
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 12:56:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1732@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:03:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13185218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:08:36 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CN8aQ09062 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:08:36 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id QAA23141 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          16:08:33 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207121607080.5861-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:08:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712142337.6879D7CDC@yellow.rahul.net>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> > I just recently started getting pedicures and have
> > painted toes.  It's fun.
> >
> > Betty, whorish
>
> Good for you! Just because it squicks me doesn't mean I don't think
> anyone else shouldn't do it.
>
Now take your pretty toes swimming!  But it has to be an outdoor pool to
get the proper effect.

  Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 12:59:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15912
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 12:59:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB173D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:05:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13185044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:10:53 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CN0rQ08527 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:00:53 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2434987B7 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:00:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6CN0j251537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:00:45
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020712155554.B93253@pobox.com>
            <20020712212756.B9AAA7CAD@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020712180045.B51192@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:00:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712212756.B9AAA7CAD@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 02:27:55PM -0700

On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 02:27:55PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> > I'd also like some theories about the bizarre surge in baby girls
> > being named Hannah, and Hailey and Madison. I didn't even know
> > the last two could be valid names, but apparently there's a tidal
> > wave of them coming ... Always remember, anything's better than
> > Jennifer
>
> Return to the heartland.

That only explains Hannah, *K@R3N*! Damn it don't make me regret
mentioning Hannah! I always do this too--mention one, almost
irrelevant, freakin thing which does not represent the issue at
all, but which commands the complete attention of the likes of
K*R*N! Did I say attention? I meant obsessive fixation. Forget
Hannah! FAUGH

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 13:02:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15925
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 13:02:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011CD60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:13:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13185309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:13:48 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CNDmQ09335 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:13:48 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6CNDlQs032535 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:13:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020712142337.6879D7CDC@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020712161325.00a38ab0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:13:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207121607080.5861-100000@idiom.com>

At 04:08 PM 7/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> > > I just recently started getting pedicures and have
> > > painted toes.  It's fun.
> > >
> > > Betty, whorish
> >
> > Good for you! Just because it squicks me doesn't mean I don't think
> > anyone else shouldn't do it.
> >
>Now take your pretty toes swimming!  But it has to be an outdoor pool to
>get the proper effect.

I sometimes get cramps!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 13:05:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15936
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 13:05:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1767@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:11:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13185387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:16:53 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6CNGrQ09500 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          19:16:53 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6CNGq4183248 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul
          2002 19:16:52 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEHLFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:15:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020712161325.00a38ab0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

Take more calcium, Betty. Also, magnesium helps. I used to get cramps and I
no longer do.

Sandra

> >Now take your pretty toes swimming!  But it has to be an outdoor pool to
> >get the proper effect.
>
> I sometimes get cramps!
>
> Betty
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 13:13:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15948
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 13:13:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0011CDE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:24:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13185584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:24:45 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CNOjQ10022 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:24:45 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6CNOiQs003659 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:24:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020712161325.00a38ab0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020712162409.00a367d0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:24:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEHLFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

I was just trying to beat John to the punch.  :-)  He hasn't forgiven me
for losing a relay race.

Betty

At 04:15 PM 7/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Take more calcium, Betty. Also, magnesium helps. I used to get cramps and I
>no longer do.
>
>Sandra
>
> > >Now take your pretty toes swimming!  But it has to be an outdoor pool to
> > >get the proper effect.
> >
> > I sometimes get cramps!
> >
> > Betty
> >

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 13:34:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15990
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 13:34:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB181A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:40:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13185972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:46:21 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CNkLQ11390 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:46:21 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws127-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.127]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CNjeq02928
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:45:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121408260.18289-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F6A20.296EFF79@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:45:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >I can't imagine finding any pleasure in decorating my nails at this
> >stage in life.
>
> There is only one way to find out.

I guess I didn't say that right.  What I mean is more like 'who cares?'
I am way past the point in life of caring much about what I look like as
long as I don't look so horrible as to attract attention or offend
people's eyes.  I wear clear nail polish to keep nails from peeling away
and getting rough and uncomfortable.  I see no point in wearing colored
polish.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 13:34:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15995
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 13:34:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB181C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:41:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13185981 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:46:33 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CNkXQ11401 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:46:33 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws127-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.127]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CNkOq03075
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:46:25 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207121017520.13161-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <4.2.2.20020712111048.00a66de0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020712113636.00a2f8a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F6A4D.87BC6B3D@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:46:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: YES!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> But surely it is not proper for a nice Southern girl to run around baring
> her ass.

True.  I think this is the first time I've ever discovered holy clothes
-- except for t-shirt fronts, of course.  I should check all clothes for
holes in the future.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 13:35:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16001
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 13:35:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011CEFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:47:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:47:31 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CNlVQ11487 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:47:31 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws127-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.127]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CNlRq03385
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:47:28 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712194335.47B07807D@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F6A8D.219A4A91@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:47:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: I'm back
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> They did ask me if I would mind moving to Japan. (I said no way.) We

Why would you not be willing to move to Japan?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 13:35:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16005
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 13:35:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1827@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:42:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:47:33 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CNlXQ11492 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:47:33 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-131.panax.com
          [65.114.190.131]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6CNlWj12364 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          19:47:32 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020712171846.00b61078@mail.panax.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121646560.22762-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020712171846.00b61078@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020712194429.00b66b18@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:45:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sharebuilder.com fees
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712175319.A51192@pobox.com>

At 05:53 PM 7/12/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:
>On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 05:19:15PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> > Thank you for that incredibly interesting update.
>
>You understand that you must pay royalty for this sentence,
>Dr Voigtlander.

I recognize no royalty other than that implicit in my own being.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 13:36:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16009
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 13:35:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1828@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:42:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:47:35 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CNlZQ11497 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:47:35 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-131.panax.com
          [65.114.190.131]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6CNlXj12376 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          19:47:33 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D2EC34E.E7D73CDC@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020712194642.00b70898@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:47:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207121538540.5861-100000@idiom.com>

At 03:39 PM 7/12/2002 -0700, sharon z. wrote:
>   I've always wondered how men carry those items.  don't they feel
>vulnerable and unprepared out in the world without a purse?

My dear, you have <no> idea...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 13:39:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16017
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 13:39:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB183F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:45:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:50:41 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CNoeQ11673 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:50:40 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws127-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.127]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CNocq03963
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:50:38 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712155554.B93253@pobox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F6B4B.CE6EE56A@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:50:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:
>
> Nobody has answered this question yet: how do you hyphenate (the
> noun phrase) "8 year old"? An 8-year-old? An 8-year old? What?
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> I'd also like some theories about the bizarre surge in baby girls
> being named Hannah, and Hailey and Madison. I didn't even know

Where's Larry K?  Does he have theories on the surges, or does he just
keep the data on them?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 13:39:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16024
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 13:39:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011CF27@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:51:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:51:03 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CNp3Q11715 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:51:03 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust49.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.51]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005192882@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:51:03 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712145450.A91935@pobox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:53:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:
> the suffering, lasted almost 18 months or so ...

I am glad that everyone is working or in school. Perhaps this is a good
sign for everyone. Dell announced a quarterly profit today. Though the
market declines unabated, various things show that the economy is
plugging along OK. Of course today it was announced that the country's
deficit was greater than anticipated. That surprised me, because I
anticipated it. But then, who am I?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 13:39:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16028
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 13:39:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011CF30@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:51:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:51:32 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CNpWQ11742 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:51:32 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws127-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.127]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CNpUq04119
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:51:30 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121718140.22762-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F6B7F.D9130A01@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:51:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Sharebuilder.com fees
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >Is this just an FYI?
>
> As far as I know. I did not want to mislead anyone.

Mislead them how?  Has sharebuilder.com arisen on the list before?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 13:41:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16032
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 13:41:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB185B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:47:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:53:10 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6CNrAQ11843 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          19:53:10 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6CNr84327780 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul
          2002 19:53:09 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEHNFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:52:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F6A20.296EFF79@maynor.net>

> "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> > >I can't imagine finding any pleasure in decorating my nails at this
> > >stage in life.
> >
> > There is only one way to find out.
>
> I guess I didn't say that right.  What I mean is more like 'who cares?'
> I am way past the point in life of caring much about what I look like as
> long as I don't look so horrible as to attract attention or offend
> people's eyes.  I wear clear nail polish to keep nails from peeling away
> and getting rough and uncomfortable.  I see no point in wearing colored
> polish.
>
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

I'm fine when I go without colored polish, but I can't deny I feel like I'm
more pulled together, more finished looking and I feel prettier when I have
a colored polish on. It's a boost for me.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 13:42:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16036
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 13:42:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011CF4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:53:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:53:54 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CNroQ11875 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:53:50 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws127-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.127]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CNrmq04603
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:53:48 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712212756.B9AAA7CAD@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F6C09.77CF0F98@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:53:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > An 8-year old?
>
> This would refer to an 8-year-old human. Or horse or whatever.

I've never seen it written that way.  I've always seen it as "an
8-year-old."  Presumably the human part is understood.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 13:42:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16040
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 13:42:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0011CF55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:54:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:54:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CNsTQ11988 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:54:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws127-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.127]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CNsQq04767
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:54:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207121538540.5861-100000@idiom.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F6C2F.4B886D4A@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:54:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sharon Ziperovich wrote:

>   I've always wondered how men carry those items.  don't they feel
> vulnerable and unprepared out in the world without a purse?

I've wondered that also.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 13:43:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16044
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 13:43:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB186B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:49:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:55:29 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CNtTQ12042 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:55:29 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust49.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.51]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005192990@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:55:28 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020712155554.B93253@pobox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F6CE6.6330FAAD@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:57:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:
>
> Nobody has answered this question yet: how do you hyphenate (the
> noun phrase) "8 year old"? An 8-year-old? An 8-year old? What?
>
Hyphenate when adjectival. Not otherwise. Sorry, I had not seen the
question,

alyce

--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 13:45:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16057
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 13:45:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1881@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:51:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 19:57:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6CNv2Q12223 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:57:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws127-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.127]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6CNuxq05472
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:57:00 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207121841360.29650-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F6CC9.F072BC3B@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:56:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> Isn't it only - or primarily - American/US men who do not carry them?

I don't know whether US men are the only ones, but I do remember some
funny looks when a very gay-talking male I was with at a restaurant in
Chicago, a male who did carry a purse because of years he'd spent in
France, said in his high-pitched voice, "Do you think it's safe for us
to leave our bags here while we go to the salad bar?"

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 13:53:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16061
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 13:53:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB18C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:59:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 20:05:07 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D057Q13051 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:05:07 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws127-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.127]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6D055q07470
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:05:05 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEHNFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F6EAE.3C03B0C8@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:05:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:

> more pulled together, more finished looking and I feel prettier when I have
> a colored polish on. It's a boost for me.

I never feel pulled together or finished looking or pretty.  Those are
alien to me.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 14:00:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16089
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 14:00:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB18EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:06:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 20:12:13 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6D0CDQ13532 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          20:12:13 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6D0CC4346544 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul
          2002 20:12:12 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEHOFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:11:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F6EAE.3C03B0C8@maynor.net>

> S Hess wrote:
>
> > more pulled together, more finished looking and I feel prettier
> when I have
> > a colored polish on. It's a boost for me.
>
> I never feel pulled together or finished looking or pretty.  Those are
> alien to me.
>
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Well, it's never too late for that. My first pedicure was such a
pleasure...and I felt just like Colette with my red toenails.

Something for your growing list of fun stuff to do when you retire...

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 14:02:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16093
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 14:02:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011D02C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:14:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 20:14:12 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D04CQ13002 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:04:12 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6D04BUh029030 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:04:11 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207122003420.29903-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:04:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Sharebuilder.com fees
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F6B7F.D9130A01@maynor.net>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> As far as I know. I did not want to mislead anyone.
>
>Mislead them how?

I think I made that clear.

Has sharebuilder.com arisen on the list before?

I have posted about it.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 14:04:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16097
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 14:04:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1902@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:10:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 20:16:06 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D066Q13107 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:06:06 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6D065Uh029515 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:06:05 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207122005250.29903-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:06:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F6EAE.3C03B0C8@maynor.net>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> more pulled together, more finished looking and I feel prettier when I have
>> a colored polish on. It's a boost for me.
>
>I never feel pulled together or finished looking or pretty.  Those are
>alien to me.

There is a way out - begin with colored nail polish on your hands.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 14:13:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16101
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 14:13:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011D096@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:24:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 20:24:46 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D0EkQ13666 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:14:46 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6BA94AF for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:14:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6D0Ejm53163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:14:45
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207121538540.5861-100000@idiom.com>
            <3D2F6C2F.4B886D4A@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020712191445.A52834@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:14:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F6C2F.4B886D4A@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Fri,
              Jul 12, 2002 at 06:54:23PM -0500

On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 06:54:23PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> Sharon Ziperovich wrote:
>
> >   I've always wondered how men carry those items.  don't they feel
> > vulnerable and unprepared out in the world without a purse?
>
> I've wondered that also.

My father always carried a weird kind of super-wallet--it was
the size of, let's say, a "collegiate"-sized dictionary, and
had an absurdly high number of pockets. It was crammed with
pens (20+ in number at any time), leatherman-style things and
plain knives (the multiplicity of which is one of the great
unexplained mysteries), calculators (same remark applies--maybe
he needs three to get a majority vote in case fo failure), note-
pads of various sizes, scotch tape, and a LOT of other crap which
could be succintly described as a miniature travelling OfficeMax.
Mercifully he only obtained a PDA four years ago (due to me).

Due to this, I used to carry a truly huge "bag" of one kind or
the other, considering it to be in the natural order of life.
But one day I caught sight of myself in a mirror and realized
what a dork I looked like. Thus, over the years, I discarded
most of these "accessories", and by now I can simply grab a
book, or nothing at all, and step out feeling totally un-nude.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 14:15:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16113
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 14:15:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB194D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:21:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 20:27:13 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D0HDQ13833 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:17:13 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C0869B8 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:17:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6D0HDP53204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:17:13
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020712145450.A91935@pobox.com> <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:17:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net>; from alybooks@VALSTAR.NET on
              Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 07:53:02PM -0400

On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 07:53:02PM -0400, alyce cresap wrote:
> Tushar Samant wrote:
> > the suffering, lasted almost 18 months or so ...
>
> I am glad that everyone is working or in school. Perhaps this is a good
> sign for everyone.

#1 good thing about it is we won't have giftless "generalists" doing
vaguely defined jobs.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 14:21:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16117
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 14:21:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1973@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:27:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13187239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 20:33:15 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D0XEQ14966 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:33:15 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-131.panax.com
          [65.114.190.131]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6D0XDj20575 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          20:33:13 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net> <20020712145450.A91935@pobox.com>
            <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020712202950.00b794d8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:33:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>

At 07:17 PM 7/12/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:

>#1 good thing about it is we won't have giftless "generalists" doing
>vaguely defined jobs.

Indeed.  The occasional true "generalist" can be a treasure, but the
dilettantes billing their respective acts as generalists should have been
drowned while still children.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 14:28:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16124
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 14:28:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011D123@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:39:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13187398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 20:39:49 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D0dmQ15336 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:39:48 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws225-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.225]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6D0dkq16170
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:39:46 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207122003420.29903-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F76CF.3C16AF14@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:39:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Sharebuilder.com fees
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >> As far as I know. I did not want to mislead anyone.
> >
> >Mislead them how?
>
> I think I made that clear.

Not if nobody had ever heard of it before your clarifying posting.  That
was my question.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 14:53:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16149
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 14:53:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1A1F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:59:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13187856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 21:04:43 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D14hQ16731 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:04:43 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6D14gb19612 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          20:04:42 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020712160545.C93253@pobox.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <006301c22a09$76b2d960$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:06:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Damn, missed the other question I was going to post: remember how
> Adam found the word "wiki" silly? Well so did I, and I can't get
> rid of the feeling. Now it is true that every online Hawaiian
> word list I have seen lists "wikiwiki" as a word for "quick".
> But there is another. My completely irrational guess, based
> on looking at other words, is that wikiwiki is a "low prestige"
> word. It is used by the lower classes. And the people who have
> borrowed it don't understand this.
>
> How right am I?

I don't know the answer to your question, but
I've been to Hawaii every year for the last
26 years and the only time I encountered that
word, actually, was on the first trip when we
had an actual <tour guide>.  That is perhaps
the low prestige application.  I have not
noticed a perceivable class system in
Hawaii.  Everybody is struggling, particularly
for a spot on H-1.  Wikiwikis (such as bicycles
with a wicker basket for fares) don't do well
there.  Mem?

             - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 14:56:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16156
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 14:56:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1A2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:02:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13187911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 21:08:19 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D18JQ16925 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:08:19 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6D18Ib22439 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          20:08:18 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <4.2.2.20020712123830.00a783a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <00a001c22a09$f8bb6c60$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:09:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: I'm back
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> At 12:34 PM 7/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >The black dress was exactly right; I ended up w/ only a briefcase and
> >no purse because the purse I was planning to use wasn't where I
> >thought it was.
> >
> >The meeting went very well, I think. Now I wait!
>
> Crossing fingers and polished toes!
>
> Betty

She's crossing fingers and
polished whorish toes.

         - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 15:11:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16183
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 15:11:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1A76@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:17:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13188130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 21:23:26 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D1NQQ17644 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:23:26 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id SAA97582 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          18:23:24 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207121821580.95797-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:23:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020712161325.00a38ab0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

> >Now take your pretty toes swimming!  But it has to be an outdoor pool to
> >get the proper effect.
>
> I sometimes get cramps!
>
That's not the effect we're trying for.  I was hoping for something closer
to carefree and sensual.

  Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 15:26:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16219
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 15:26:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1AC7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:32:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13188381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 21:37:45 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe50.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D1bjQ18528 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:37:45 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          12 Jul 2002 18:37:39 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jul 2002 01:37:39.0683 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[DFC2EB30:01C22A0D]
Message-ID:  <OE50yLJjeylEuImnZXw0000afd4@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:39:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Now take your pretty toes swimming!  But it has to be an outdoor pool to
get the proper effect.

>  Sharon

The Sea of Love will do for starters.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 15:30:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16231
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 15:30:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1ADE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:36:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13188453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 21:42:21 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe13.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.117]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D1gLQ18814 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:42:21 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          12 Jul 2002 18:42:15 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jul 2002 01:42:15.0572 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[84343D40:01C22A0E]
Message-ID:  <OE13nekVgKMy5KINzq600000874@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:43:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: I'm back
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>She's crossing fingers and
polished whorish toes.

> - D. M.

The only way to travel. Funny, but in my world these embellishments were
merely de rigeur. Still are.

AS, who does not find girrrrrrrrrrlishness a threat

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 15:32:30 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16235
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 15:32:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011D385@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:44:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13188498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 21:44:03 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe13.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.117]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D1i3Q18918 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:44:03 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          12 Jul 2002 18:43:58 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jul 2002 01:43:58.0214 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C1622A60:01C22A0E]
Message-ID:  <OE13vX5w0Yg83alUohI00000878@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:45:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: I'm back
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>She's crossing fingers and
polished whorish toes.


 >        - D. M.

And furthermore: I'll even cross my legs if it will help.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 15:36:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16243
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 15:36:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0011D3AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:47:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13188565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 21:47:59 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6D1lxQ19154 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          21:47:59 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6D1lw484648 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          21:47:58 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEIBFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:47:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I'm back
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE13nekVgKMy5KINzq600000874@hotmail.com>

> >She's crossing fingers and
> polished whorish toes.
>
> > - D. M.
>
> The only way to travel. Funny, but in my world these embellishments were
> merely de rigeur. Still are.
>
> AS, who does not find girrrrrrrrrrlishness a threat

In my book, Betty is all grrl. Within moments of meeting her at
www.cajunpacific.com, she wanted to know if she needed to flash her tits. I
think the mardi gras beads were just an excuse. Larry's a lucky guy ;)

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 15:39:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16250
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 15:39:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1B22@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:46:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13188663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 21:51:32 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe48.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.20]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D1pWQ19403 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:51:32 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          12 Jul 2002 18:51:26 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jul 2002 01:51:26.0718 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[CCB671E0:01C22A0F]
Message-ID:  <OE482RkeS8YkdavN3ql0000b093@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:52:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I just recently started getting pedicures and have
painted toes.  It's fun.

>Betty, whorish

Yes, I have been for a while now. My salon has a special huge variable-speed
vibrating chair with foot jacuzzi -- and oh, those jets! It's a <simply
must.>

What's more, I have had three new pairs of gold sandles this summer

AS, indulgent (self- and otherwise)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 15:43:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16263
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 15:43:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1B2F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:49:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13188704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 21:54:43 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe37.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.94]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D1shQ19586 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:54:43 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          12 Jul 2002 18:54:37 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jul 2002 01:54:37.0836 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[3EA0BCC0:01C22A10]
Message-ID:  <OE37riS325H21qJGyXN00003ff1@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:56:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Betty is all grrl.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>In my book, Betty is all grrl. Within moments of meeting her at
www.cajunpacific.com, she wanted to know if she needed to flash her tits. I
think the mardi gras beads were just an excuse. Larry's a lucky guy ;)

>Sandra

Gimme High 5, then -- <swak>

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 15:54:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16287
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 15:54:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1BB3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:00:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13189104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 22:06:27 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D26RQ20910 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:06:27 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ600FLB0IQZ4@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:06:27 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <4.2.2.20020711182400.00a2d100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020711190645.00a64af0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D2E3F68.876B444A@maynor.net> <3D2EEC71.9480D183@valstar.net>
            <3D2EF035.9070206@swbell.net> <3D2F1834.91611EF6@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D2F8AC8.6080100@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:04:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>Are you saying Natalie has a fat ass and doesn't know it?
>>
>
> Knowing about a fat ass doesn't necessarily mean knowing about holy
> pants.
>


Well, if one didn't know one had a fat ass, one might not
know when one was straining at the seams.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 16:01:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16307
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 16:01:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1BE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:07:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13189287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 22:13:17 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D2DHQ21479 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:13:17 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6D2DFW20729 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:13:15 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207122112170.20538-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:13:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207122005250.29903-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> >I never feel pulled together or finished looking or pretty.  Those are
> >alien to me.
>
> There is a way out - begin with colored nail polish on your hands.

What's next on this slippery slope to whorishness?

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 16:05:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16319
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 16:05:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1C0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:11:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13189402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 22:16:58 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D2GwQ21777 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:16:58 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6D2Grh20803 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:16:53 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207122116310.20538-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:16:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: I'm back
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE13vX5w0Yg83alUohI00000878@hotmail.com>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Amy Burns Short wrote:

> >She's crossing fingers and
> polished whorish toes.
>
>
>  >        - D. M.
>
> And furthermore: I'll even cross my legs if it will help.

Uh Huh Natalie I'm beginning to get the picture.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 16:06:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16326
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 16:06:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011D4E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:17:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13189423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 22:17:55 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D2HtQ21845 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:17:55 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6D2Hnc20868 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:17:50 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207122117110.20538-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:17:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE482RkeS8YkdavN3ql0000b093@hotmail.com>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Amy Burns Short wrote:

> What's more, I have had three new pairs of gold sandles this summer

Natalie!  I must admit I had my doubts, but hey

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 16:07:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16330
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 16:07:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011D4F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:19:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13189469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 22:19:15 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6D2JFQ21988 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          22:19:15 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6D2JE4407610 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul
          2002 22:19:14 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEIDFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:18:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207122112170.20538-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

> On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>
> > >I never feel pulled together or finished looking or pretty.  Those are
> > >alien to me.
> >
> > There is a way out - begin with colored nail polish on your hands.
>
> What's next on this slippery slope to whorishness?
>
> Ann

Bee stung red lips and a little something from Victoria Secret.

Sch.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 16:10:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16339
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 16:10:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1C36@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:16:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13189544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 22:22:20 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D2MKQ22277 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:22:20 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws81-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.81]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6D2MHq09749
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:22:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020711182400.00a2d100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020711190645.00a64af0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D2E3F68.876B444A@maynor.net> <3D2EEC71.9480D183@valstar.net>
            <3D2EF035.9070206@swbell.net> <3D2F1834.91611EF6@maynor.net>
            <3D2F8AC8.6080100@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F8ED6.93256CB3@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:22:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> Well, if one didn't know one had a fat ass, one might not
> know when one was straining at the seams.

Wouldn't that have to do with clothing sizes?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 16:11:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16346
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 16:11:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1C3A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:17:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13189558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 22:22:54 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6D2MsQ22361 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          22:22:54 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JUM00156; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:22:53 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KEL00149; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:22:51 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D2F01FF.10047.17BEF41@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:21:19 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <006301c22a09$76b2d960$360332d1@0018079268>

On 12 Jul 2002 at 20:06, Doris Markland wrote:

> I don't know the answer to your question, but I've been to Hawaii every
> year for the last 26 years and the only time I encountered that word,
> actually, was on the first trip when we had an actual <tour guide>.
> That is perhaps the low prestige application.

I don't know that I would call wikiwiki a low-class word. It's one of those words whose meaning is known to all, but few would
actually use it in conversation--English-language conversation, that is. I don't know whether it's common in Hawaiian-language
conversations or not. A good question to pose to someone. It's a word I would expect to find more often in names of entities:
Wikiwiki Photo Finishing or Wikiwiki Airport Shuttle or something like that. I might expect to see it in Waikiki but not in Waialua.


> I have not noticed a perceivable class system in Hawaii.  Everybody is
> struggling, particularly for a spot on H-1.

This, I think, is at least debatable. I think it's easy to discern layers in contemporary Hawaii societies. I don't think Walter Dods
and I are in the same socioeconomic stratum. As I was struggling for my spot on the H-1 yesterday afternoon, the fellow struggling
for a spot in the lane beside me was doing so in a late-model Ferrari. I doubt we subsist in the same socioeconomic layer. The
Filipino custodian who cleans this building probably looks at me in somewhat the same way. I don't know whether any of this is
indicative of classes, but I'm inclined to think so--in some ways at least. It's an interesting place to live though.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 16:15:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16362
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 16:15:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1C57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:21:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13189658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 22:26:44 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D2QiQ22802 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:26:44 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws81-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.81]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6D2Qfq11069
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:26:41 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207122117110.20538-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D2F8FDE.889F086A@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:26:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Amy Burns Short wrote:
>
> > What's more, I have had three new pairs of gold sandles this summer
>
> Natalie!  I must admit I had my doubts, but hey

Although gold sandals strike me as a likely shoe choice for a whore,
that's not the same thing as saying that gold sandals are necessarily
whorish.  I do find something rather strange, however, about the thought
of three new pairs of even a normal color of sandals in one summer, much
less three new pairs of gold ones.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 16:21:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16371
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 16:21:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1C7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:27:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13189782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 22:32:45 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe64.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.199]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D2WiQ23215 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:32:44 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          12 Jul 2002 19:32:39 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jul 2002 02:32:39.0486 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[8E98E5E0:01C22A15]
Message-ID:  <OE64HGmCvoXM7e0C9gu000046b6@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:34:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie:

> Although gold sandals strike me as a likely shoe choice for a whore,
that's not the same thing as saying that gold sandals are necessarily
whorish.  I do find <<<something rather strange,>>> however, about the
thought
of three new pairs of even a normal color of sandals in one summer, much
less three new pairs of gold ones.

Your prerogative, Madame. Let me mention, then, that the aforementioned
purchases make up about 25 percent (or maybe less) of my new summer footwear
collection.

AS, size 11, shoe freak, shrewd shopper

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 16:22:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16379
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 16:22:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1C84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:28:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13189813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 22:34:05 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D2Y5Q23313 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:34:05 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6D2Y3l21524 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:34:03 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207122133271.21156-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:34:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F8FDE.889F086A@maynor.net>

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Although gold sandals strike me as a likely shoe choice for a whore,
> that's not the same thing as saying that gold sandals are necessarily
> whorish.  I do find something rather strange, however, about the thought
> of three new pairs of even a normal color of sandals in one summer, much
> less three new pairs of gold ones.

You could have a column:  Ask Ms. Whorespotter.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 16:24:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16383
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 16:24:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB1C8C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:30:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13189834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 22:36:16 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe38.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.95]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D2aGQ23462 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:36:16 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          12 Jul 2002 19:36:10 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jul 2002 02:36:10.0824 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[0C908480:01C22A16]
Message-ID:  <OE38EHt3V5g2oHzGkzM0000b112@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:37:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Although gold sandals strike me as a likely shoe choice for a whore,
> that's not the same thing as saying that gold sandals are necessarily
> whorish.  I do find something rather strange, however, about the thought
> of three new pairs of even a normal color of sandals in one summer, much
> less three new pairs of gold ones.

>You could have a column:  Ask Ms. Whorespotter.

>Ann

Thought she already did. :).

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 18:29:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA16526
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 18:29:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011DE2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 0:41:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13199488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 00:41:09 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D4V9Q02747 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 00:31:09 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu ([64.86.155.135]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6D4V7p01044 for
          <Words-L@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 00:31:07 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <200207130431.g6D4V7p01044@pasta.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 00:41:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Mr. Joseph Sango" <joesango@AFRICAMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Letter from Joseph Sango
Comments: To: Words-L@uga.cc.uga.edu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Joseph Sango
National Bank of Nigeria Plc
Lagos - Nigeria.


Dear Sir,

                   STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

I am Joseph Sango, the manager Bills and Exchange at the Foreign Remittance Department of the National Bank of Nigeria Plc. I am writing this letter to ask your support and co-operation to carry out this   business opportunity in my department.

My colleagues and I discovered an abandoned sum of $25.5m in an account that belong to one of our foreign customers, who registered with (NNPC) as oil merchandise and contractor during the past military rule of General Sani Abacha, and died in November 1998 in a plane crash in Ethiopia.

It was discovered after his death that he was as associate of Gilbert Chagoury a Lebanese used by the late past Head of State of Nigeria General Sani Abacha to milk Nigeria dry by using them as front in various contract and oil deals.

Since we heard of his death, we have been expecting his next-of-kin to come over and put claims for his money as the heir, because we cannot release the funds from his account unless someone applies for claim as the next-of-kin to the deceased as indicated in our banking guidelines. Unfortunately, neither their family members nor distant relatives have ever appeared to claim the said funds. Upon this discovery, other Officials in my department and I, have agreed to make business with you and release the total amount into your account as the heir of the fund since no one came for it or discovered he maintained account with our bank, otherwise the funds will be returned to the bank's treasury as unclaimed funds after 4 years.

We have agreed that our ratio of sharing will be as stated thus; 20 % for you as foreign partner, 75% for us the officials in my department and 5 % for the settlement of all local and foreign expenses incurred by you and us during the course of this business.

Upon the successful completion of this transfer, one of my colleagues and I will come to your country and mind our share. It is from our 75% we intend to invest in (estate) and import Agricultural Machineries into my country as a way of recycling the fund.

To commence this transaction, we require you to immediately indicate your interest by a return e-mail and enclose your private contact telephone number, fax number, full name and address and your designated bank coordinates to enable us file letters of claim to the appropriate departments for necessary approvals before the transfer can be made. Note also, that this transaction must be kept STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL because of its nature.

I look forward to receiving your prompt response.

Best regards,

Joseph Sango
National Bank of Nigeria

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 18:52:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA16571
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 18:52:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB29B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 0:57:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13200085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 01:02:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D52dQ04558 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 01:02:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E4BC98058; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 22:01:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713050151.E4BC98058@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:01:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEHLFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 12, 2002  4:15:55 pm"

S Hess said:
> Take more calcium, Betty. Also, magnesium helps. I used to get cramps and I
> no longer do.

She's talking swimming cramps, not menstrual cramps.

> > >Now take your pretty toes swimming!  But it has to be an outdoor pool to
> > >get the proper effect.
> >
> > I sometimes get cramps!
> >
> > Betty
> >
>

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 18:53:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA16578
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 18:53:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB29D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 0:59:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13200917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 01:05:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D54iQ05834 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 01:04:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E2A397D14; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 22:04:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713050437.E2A397D14@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:04:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F6EAE.3C03B0C8@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 12,
              2002  7: 5: 2 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> I never feel pulled together or finished looking or pretty.  Those are
> alien to me.

You suffer from low self-esteem.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 18:54:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA16582
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 18:54:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB29EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 1:00:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13200986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 01:06:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D56CQ05969 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 01:06:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 53D3B8058; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 22:05:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:05:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Jul 12,
              2002  7:17:13 pm"

Tushar Samant said:
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 07:53:02PM -0400, alyce cresap wrote:
> > Tushar Samant wrote:
> > > the suffering, lasted almost 18 months or so ...
> >
> > I am glad that everyone is working or in school. Perhaps this is a good
> > sign for everyone.
>
> #1 good thing about it is we won't have giftless "generalists" doing
> vaguely defined jobs.

HEY! I resemble that remark.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 18:58:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA16586
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 18:58:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011DFCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 1:09:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13201062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 01:09:21 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6D597Q06200 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          01:09:07 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6D58u4101234 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul
          2002 01:08:56 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEIGFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:07:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020713050151.E4BC98058@yellow.rahul.net>

> S Hess said:
> > Take more calcium, Betty. Also, magnesium helps. I used to get
> cramps and I
> > no longer do.
>
> She's talking swimming cramps, not menstrual cramps.
>
> > > >Now take your pretty toes swimming!  But it has to be an
> outdoor pool to
> > > >get the proper effect.
> > >
> > > I sometimes get cramps!
> > >
> > > Betty
> > >
> Karen

If I thought she had meant menstrual cramps I would have suggested Midol.

Sch.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 19:02:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA16598
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 19:02:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011DFE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 1:13:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13201115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 01:13:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D5CXQ06379 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 01:12:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3B3958305; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 22:12:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713051225.3B3958305@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:12:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEIGFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 12, 2002 10: 7:57 pm"

S Hess said:
> > S Hess said:
> > > Take more calcium, Betty. Also, magnesium helps. I used to get
> > cramps and I
> > > no longer do.
> >
> > She's talking swimming cramps, not menstrual cramps.
> >
> > > > >Now take your pretty toes swimming!  But it has to be an
> > outdoor pool to
> > > > >get the proper effect.
> > > >
> > > > I sometimes get cramps!
> > > >
> > > > Betty
> > > >
> > Karen
>
> If I thought she had meant menstrual cramps I would have suggested Midol.

Calcium and magnesium are what they suggest these days.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 19:14:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA16612
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 19:14:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011E03B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 1:25:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13201286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 01:25:45 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6D5PXQ06957 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 01:25:45 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA24174
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Fri, 12 Jul 2002
          22:25:13 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D79AC97005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:25:12 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 24169 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2002 05:25:12 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 13 Jul 2002 05:25:12 -0000
References: <3D2EC34E.E7D73CDC@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130305b95567fdb00f@[66.237.73.75]>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:25:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207121538540.5861-100000@idiom.com>

>  I've always wondered how men carry those items.  don't they feel
>vulnerable and unprepared out in the world without a purse?
>
>  Sharon

I always feel vulnerable and unprepared when I go out without a purse.
Fortunately, those occasions are few and far between.

Ken Miller
Accessory Correspondent
The Lostin Times

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 19:24:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA16636
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 19:24:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB2A6B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 1:30:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13201427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 01:35:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D5ZYQ07443 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 01:35:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 47CA48295; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 22:35:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713053525.47CA48295@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:35:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Party at the mansion
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I was on the phone with My New Friend when *er* came over this
afternoon. This was a LITTLE awkward, but I got past it. (I forgot to
ask him about his vacuum cleaner!)

So *er* brought this fish to cook and it was still frozen, all bent
up. He thawed it in the sink, and ended up massaging it and asking
"Why aren't you relaxing?!" That set the tone for the evening.

I had an excellent, excellent time. I love *er*'s friends. The food
was excellent, and it seems like they will help me fix my boat--I am
optimistic. In any case, they may at least take me sailing.

The food was amazing. *er*'s salmon was superb, and I made sunomono
(marinated cucumbers) that got rave reviews. There was fresh
mozarella, tomatoes stuffed with some kind of pesto thing, roast pork,
amazing wines, grilled squash, some fancy Provencal anchovy pizza.

And then there were the desserts. I can't even list them. There was
raspberries with chocolate truffle things--OH! To die for. And some
kind of runny triple creme cheese with raspberries and strawberries.
And more chocolate things. Two kinds of birthday cake. No candles,
much singing of happy birthday.

I am entirely replete. I ate a lot and laughed a lot. *er* left a
little while ago to have dinner with the Tibetans. He brought them
some left over cake. I don't think I'll ever eat again.

But we are supposed to go to another potluck tomorrow night. I was
going to make Marie's blueberry pie, but I think that would be
excessive--we have the salmon, and there were leftovers of the
raspberries and chocolate so he filled my sunomono bowl with it and
threw some lime merengues on top.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 19:27:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA16643
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 19:27:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB2A70@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 1:33:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13201451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 01:38:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D5cTQ07584 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 01:38:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9A2807DEE; Fri, 12
          Jul 2002 22:03:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713050303.9A2807DEE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:03:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I'm back
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F6A8D.219A4A91@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 12,
              2002  6:47:25 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > They did ask me if I would mind moving to Japan. (I said no way.) We
>
> Why would you not be willing to move to Japan?

Because a) I don't want to live there and b) I have fought and
suffered to stay in this house, goddammit, and I am going to stay in
this house!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 20:34:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16735
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 20:34:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB2BC6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 2:40:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13202685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 02:45:45 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6D6fvQ12061 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          02:42:00 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6D6fB4447342 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul
          2002 02:41:11 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEIIFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 23:40:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020713051225.3B3958305@yellow.rahul.net>

> S Hess said:
> > > S Hess said:
> > > > Take more calcium, Betty. Also, magnesium helps. I used to get
> > > cramps and I
> > > > no longer do.
> > >
> > > She's talking swimming cramps, not menstrual cramps.
> > >
> > > > > >Now take your pretty toes swimming!  But it has to be an
> > > outdoor pool to
> > > > > >get the proper effect.
> > > > >
> > > > > I sometimes get cramps!
> > > > >
> > > > > Betty
> > > > >
> > > Karen
> >
> > If I thought she had meant menstrual cramps I would have
> suggested Midol.
>
> Calcium and magnesium are what they suggest these days.
>
> Karen

Convenient then that it also works for leg muscles ;)

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 22:10:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA16902
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 22:07:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB2CC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 4:12:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13203471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 04:17:51 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D87pQ16211 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 04:07:51 -0400
Received: from webserver.amagis.com.br (200-190-249-194.wayinternet.ite.eti.br
          [200.190.249.194]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6D87bp16067 for <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 04:07:37
          -0400
Received: from mx1.mailbox.co.za (dai-tx4-58.rasserver.net [204.32.147.58]) by
          webserver.amagis.com.br with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail
          Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3Z2DZ3DD; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 05:03:24
          -0300
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <000056fe67cd$00002fce$0000437f@mx1.mailbox.co.za>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 03:02:41 -1700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: E-Media Online <fastquote2203@MAILBOX.CO.ZA>
Subject:      What your Life Insurance CO does NOT WANT you to know..
              XXNWK
Comments: To: Underinsured.member@pasta.cc.uga.edu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

<HTML><BODY text=3D#ffffff vLink=3D#FFCC99 link=3D#FFCC99 bgColor=3D#000000=
><FORM action=3D"mailto:snappyquote@eudoramail.com?subject=3D Insurance Qu=
ote Request" method=3DPOST encType=3Dtext/plain><TABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cel=
lPadding=3D0 width=3D592 border=3D0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=3Dbottom width=3D=
592><P><p align=3Dleft><img border=3D0 src=3Dhttp://207.36.46.214/head2.jp=
g width=3D600 height=3D130></p></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D592 bgcolor=3D#C0=
C0C0><P><CENTER>&nbsp;</CENTER><P></P><P><CENTER><TABLE cellSpacing=3D2 ce=
llPadding=3D10 width=3D480 border=3D0><TBODY><TR><TD bgcolor=3D#FFFFFF><CE=
NTER><p><FONT face=3DCentury color=3D#000000 style=3D"font-size: 16pt">S</=
FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2 color=3D#000000>ince 1996, term life insu=
rance rates have been </FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000000><u><font s=
ize=3D2>reduced</font></u><font size=3D2> by as much as <b>70%</b> </font>=
<b><i><font size=3D2>!</font></i></b></FONT></p><p><b><FONT face=3DArial c=
olor=3D#3366FF>40 year old male - $250,000 - 10 year level term<BR> <u>As =
low as $10.45 per month</u> <i>!</i></FONT></b></p></CENTER><P></P><P><fon=
t color=3D#000000 face=3DCentury style=3D"font-size: 16pt">A</font><font c=
olor=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>t TermQuotes Life Insurance Companies=
 of America, we will survey the top life insurance companies for you and p=
rovide you with the best rates available. Compare the rates and see for yo=
urself. Fill out this quick form below for further information.</font></P>=
<P align=3Dcenter><b><font color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>The quote=
 is</font><font color=3D#000000 face=3DArial><i> </i></font><font face=3DA=
rial color=3D#3366FF><u>FREE</u></font><font color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>. There is </font><font face=3DArial size=3D2 color=3D#3366FF>no =
obligation</font><font color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2> to buy.</fon=
t></b></P><P><CENTER><font color=3D#000000><FONT face=3DArial size=3D-2>Re=
sults of computer survey 05-09-02<BR></FONT><B> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D=
-1>Sample Annual Premiums<BR>* 10 Year Level Premium Term Rates *</FONT></=
B></font><BR><TABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D2 width=3D490 border=3D0=
><TBODY><TR align=3Dright><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D10% bgCo=
lor=3D#3366FF><B><FONT face=3DARIAL>Age</FONT></B></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop al=
ign=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#3366FF><B><FONT face=3DARIAL>$250,000<=
/FONT></B></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#3366=
FF><B><FONT face=3DARIAL>$500,000</FONT></B></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3D=
middle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#3366FF><B><FONT face=3DARIAL>$1,000,000</FON=
T></B></TD></TR><TR align=3Dright><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D=
10% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>35</FONT></b><=
/TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT=
 face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$115</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3D=
middle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000=
>$175</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D=
#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$305</FONT></b></TD></TR><TR=
 align=3Dright><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D10% bgColor=3D#6699=
FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>45</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dto=
p align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=
=3D#000000>$210</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20%=
 bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$375</FONT></b></=
TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT =
face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$670</FONT></b></TD></TR><TR align=3Dright><T=
D vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D10% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3D=
ARIAL color=3D#000000>55</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle wi=
dth=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$500</FO=
NT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF>=
<b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$935</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop=
 align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D=
#000000>$1,370</FONT></b></TD></TR><TR align=3Dright><TD vAlign=3Dtop alig=
n=3Dmiddle width=3D10% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#00=
0000>65</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=
=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$1,305</FONT></b></TD><TD=
 vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3D=
ARIAL color=3D#000000>$2,550</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddl=
e width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$4,9=
20</FONT></b></TD></TR><TR align=3Dright><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle w=
idth=3D10% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>70</FON=
T></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><=
b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$2,265</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dto=
p align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=
=3D#000000>$4,480</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D2=
0% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$7,510</FONT></=
b></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR> <font color=3D#000000><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D-2>*Above rates guaranteed to remain level for 10 years<BR>Rates ba=
sed on male preferred class 1 non-smoker <BR>Policies are guaranteed renew=
able to age 95</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><BR>Policies with 15, 20,=
 25, and 30 year level premiums also available.</FONT></font></CENTER><P><=
/P><P><CENTER><FONT size=3D1 color=3D#000000 face=3DArial>Universal Life, =
Second-to-Die and Estate Planning products also provided.</FONT><p><B><FON=
T color=3D#990000 face=3DArial>Attention All Smokers:</FONT><FONT color=3D=
#ff0000 face=3DArial><BR></FONT> <FONT color=3D#3366FF face=3DArial>You ma=
y qualify for special <u>reduced</u> smoker rates!</FONT></B></p></CENTER>=
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE height=
=3D308 cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 width=3D600 border=3D0><TBODY><TR><=
TD width=3D600 height=3D170 bgcolor=3D#3366FF><P><CENTER><TABLE cellSpacin=
g=3D2 cellPadding=3D0 width=3D600 align=3Dcenter background=3D"" border=3D=
0><CAPTION align=3Dtop><font face=3DArial><B><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D=
4>Submit This Form for a </FONT><FONT size=3D4><u>Free</u></FONT><FONT col=
or=3D#000000 size=3D4> Term Insurance Quote <i>!</i></FONT></B></font></CA=
PTION><TBODY><TR align=3Dmiddle><TD><P><CENTER><TABLE cellSpacing=3D2 cell=
Padding=3D0 width=3D95% border=3D0 height=3D568><TBODY><TR><TD width=3D549=
 height=3D23><b>Name Insured:</b>&nbsp; <INPUT size=3D25 name=3D"NAME " va=
lue=3D" "></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D23>Amount of Coverage:&nb=
sp;&nbsp; <SELECT name=3D"COVERAGE " size=3D1> <OPTION value=3D$250,000>$2=
50,000<OPTION value=3D$300,000>$300,000<OPTION value=3D$400,000>$400,000<O=
PTION value=3D$500,000 selected>$500,000<OPTION value=3D$600,000>$600,000<=
OPTION value=3D$700,000>$700,000<OPTION value=3D$800,000>$800,000<OPTION v=
alue=3D$900,000>$900,000<OPTION value=3D$1,000,000>$1,000,000</OPTION></SE=
LECT></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D23>Date of Birth: Month <SELEC=
T name=3D"MONTH "> <OPTION value=3D01 selected>01<OPTION value=3D02>02<OPT=
ION value=3D03>03<OPTION value=3D04>04<OPTION value=3D05>05<OPTION value=3D=
06>06<OPTION value=3D07>07<OPTION value=3D08>08<OPTION value=3D09>09<OPTIO=
N value=3D10>10<OPTION value=3D11>11<OPTION value=3D12>12</OPTION></SELECT=
>&nbsp; Day <SELECT name=3D"DAY "> <OPTION value=3D01 selected>01<OPTION v=
alue=3D02>02<OPTION value=3D03>03<OPTION value=3D04>04<OPTION value=3D05>0=
5<OPTION value=3D06>06<OPTION value=3D07>07<OPTION value=3D08>08<OPTION va=
lue=3D09>09<OPTION value=3D10>10<OPTION value=3D11>11<OPTION value=3D12>12=
<OPTION value=3D13>13<OPTION value=3D14>14<OPTION value=3D15>15<OPTION val=
ue=3D16>16<OPTION value=3D17>17<OPTION value=3D18>18<OPTION value=3D19>19<=
OPTION value=3D20>20<OPTION value=3D21>21<OPTION value=3D22>22<OPTION valu=
e=3D23>23<OPTION value=3D24>24<OPTION value=3D25>25<OPTION value=3D26>26<O=
PTION value=3D27>27<OPTION value=3D28>28<OPTION value=3D29>29<OPTION value=
=3D30>30<OPTION value=3D31>31</OPTION></SELECT> Year <INPUT maxLength=3D4 =
size=3D4 value=3D19 name=3D"YEAR "></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D=
21>Sex:&nbsp; Male <INPUT type=3Dradio CHECKED value=3D" male " name=3D"SE=
X "> Female <INPUT type=3Dradio value=3D" female " name=3D"SEX "></TD></TR=
><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D23>Height:&nbsp; FT<INPUT size=3D3 name=3D"F=
T "> in <INPUT size=3D3 name=3D"IN "></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D=
23>Weight:&nbsp; lbs.<INPUT size=3D3 name=3D"LB.  " value=3D" "></TD></TR>=
<TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D26>Occupation:&nbsp; <INPUT name=3D"OCCUPATIO=
N " size=3D20 value=3D" "></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D19><b><fo=
nt color=3D#3366FF>xxx</font></b></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D19=
><b>Have You Ever Had:</b></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D21>High B=
lood Pressure:&nbsp; Yes <INPUT type=3Dradio value=3D" yes " name=3D" HIGH=
 BLOOD PRESSURE? " ?>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; No <INPUT type=3Dradio=
 value=3D" no " name=3D" HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE? " checked></TD></TR><TR><TD =
width=3D549 height=3D21>Heart Attack or Stroke:&nbsp; Yes <INPUT type=3Dra=
dio value=3D" yes " name=3D"HEART ATTACK OR STROKE?  " ?>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; No <INPUT type=3Dradio value=3D" no " name=3D"HEART ATTACK O=
R STROKE?  " checked></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D21>Cancer:&nbs=
p; Yes <INPUT type=3Dradio value=3D" yes " name=3D"CANCER "?>&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; No <input type=3Dradio name=3D"CANCER " value=3D"no " ch=
ecked></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D21>Diabetes:&nbsp; Yes <INPUT=
 type=3Dradio value=3D" yes " name=3D"DIABETES ">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; No <INPUT type=3Dradio value=3D" no " name=3D"DIABETES " checked></T=
D></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D21>Have You&nbsp; Smoked Within the La=
st 12 Months:&nbsp; Yes <INPUT type=3Dradio value=3D" yes " name=3D"SMOKED=
 IN 12 MONTHS? ">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; No <INPUT type=3Dradio val=
ue=3D" no " name=3D"SMOKED IN 12 MONTHS? " checked></TD></TR><TR><TD width=
=3D549 height=3D19><font color=3D#3366FF>xxx</font></TD></TR><TR><TD width=
=3D549 height=3D23><b>Person Completing Request:</b>&nbsp; <INPUT size=3D4=
0 name=3D"PERSON COMPLETING REQUEST " value=3D" "></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D=
549 height=3D20>Mailing Address:&nbsp; <TEXTAREA name=3D"STREET " rows=3D1=
 cols=3D40> </TEXTAREA></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D23>City:&nbs=
p; <INPUT size=3D28 name=3D"CITY " value=3D" ">State <INPUT size=3D3 name=3D=
"STATE  " value=3D" "> Zip <INPUT size=3D11 name=3D"ZIP " value=3D" "></TD=
></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D23>Daytime Phone:&nbsp; <INPUT size=3D1=
9 name=3D"DAY PHONE " value=3D" "></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D2=
3>Evening Phone:&nbsp;&nbsp; <INPUT size=3D19 name=3D"EVENING PHONE " valu=
e=3D" "></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D23>Email Address:&nbsp;&nbs=
p; <INPUT maxLength=3D50 size=3D20 name=3D"EMAIL  " value=3D" "></TD></TR>=
<TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D23>Best time to contact: <select size=3D1 nam=
e=3D"BEST TIME TO CONTACT "> <option selected value=3D" Morning">Morning</=
option> <option value=3D" After noon">After noon</option> <option value=3D=
" Evening">Evening</option> <option value=3D" Weekend">Weekend</option> </=
select></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><INPUT type=3Dsubmit value=3D"Submit "><p=
><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial>When you click submit it may activate your=
 spell check, please click &quot;Ignore&quot; if it does.</font></b></p></=
CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></CENTER></TD><TD align=3Dmiddle width=3D=
1 height=3D170></TD><TD align=3Dmiddle width=3D1 height=3D170></TD></TR></=
TBODY></TABLE></FORM>&nbsp; <br><div align=3Dcenter><center><table border=3D=
1 style=3D"border-collapse: collapse" width=3D600 id=3DAutoNumber1 height=3D=
125 cellspacing=3D0 cellpadding=3D0 align=3Dleft><tr><td width=3D598 align=
=3Dcenter height=3D21><font size=3D1 color=3D#FFCC99>YOUR INTERNET ADVERTI=
SING Copyright 1996-2002. All Rights Reserved</font></td></tr><tr><td widt=
h=3D598 height=3D16><p align=3Dcenter><font face=3DArial size=3D4 color=3D=
#91DF6A>&nbsp;</font><font face=3DArial size=3D4 color=3D#008000>This coul=
d be your ad!</font></td></tr><tr><td width=3D598 height=3D11><p align=3Dc=
enter><font color=3D#cc0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><a href=3D"mailto:starqu=
ote1@eudoramail.com?subject=3DDirect Marketing Inquiry">Email Us</a></font=
><font color=3D#FFCC99 size=3D2 face=3DArial>&nbsp;for free quotes and con=
sultations.</font></td></tr><tr><td width=3D598 height=3D24><p align=3Dcen=
ter><font color=3D#FFCC99><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: T=
imes New Roman; font-style: italic">If you think that you will not benefit=
 from this correspondence, please </span><span style=3D"font-family: Times=
 New Roman; font-style: italic"><font size=3D2>reply with '<a href=3Dhttp:=
//www.cramz.net/help.html>remove</a>' as the subject.</font></span></font>=
</td></tr></table></center></div></BODY></HTML>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun  6 23:43:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA17035
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 6 Jun 1960 23:43:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011E623@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 5:55:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13204119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 05:54:37 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D9ibQ19987 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 05:44:37 -0400
Received: from sbiz-server ([211.35.193.193]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6D9dZp08407 for
          <WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 05:39:50 -0400
Received: from tghancom005 ([192.168.0.22]) by sbiz-server with Microsoft
          SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:22:22 +0900
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jul 2002 06:22:22.0825 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A61B8590:01C22A35]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  base64
Message-ID:  <SBIZ-SERVERL7HRjGLi000026df@sbiz-server>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:29:44 +0900
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?vNLHwcauv/6+7sO1sbk=?= <b2ushop@MKSOFT.CO.KR>
Subject:      =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?W7GksO1dIMTEx7vFzbGzwLAgJiBJVMG+x9Wxs8CwKDMwsPq48SnAuiC9sbDtIMbtx8+w1CC56L/stMIiv6G14MWsuK8isPogx9Sysi4=?=
Comments: To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 00:49:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA17094
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 00:49:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB2EE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 6:55:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13159098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 07:00:35 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DAwOQ23745 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 06:58:26 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws66-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.66]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DAwBq24489
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 05:58:12 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207122133271.21156-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3007C1.A5A887C9@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 05:58:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:
>
> On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> > Although gold sandals strike me as a likely shoe choice for a whore,
> > that's not the same thing as saying that gold sandals are necessarily
> > whorish.
....
>
> You could have a column:  Ask Ms. Whorespotter.

But what I said above is that gold sandals aren't necessarily an
accurate symbol.  The percentage of whores wearing gold sandals would
almost certainly be far higher than the percentage of non-whores wearing
them, but seeing gold sandals doesn't automatically mean seeing a
whore.  Hmm.  I guess this could be the kind of tip Ms. Whorespotter
could give in her column, though.  My "but" at the beginning was because
I hadn't taken the first sip of coffee yet.

Speaking of coffee, I must say that Great Value coffee isn't very good.
I'm far from a coffee snob, am not picky at all about my coffee, but
even I can tell that this coffee is pretty bad.  I'll be glad when the
can is empty -- which will be a while since it's new.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 00:54:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA17108
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 00:54:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB2EF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 7:00:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13159163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 07:05:41 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DB5aQ24153 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 07:05:40 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws66-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.66]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DB5Kq25637
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 06:05:21 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020713050437.E2A397D14@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30096E.8C910628@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 06:05:18 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > I never feel pulled together or finished looking or pretty.  Those are
> > alien to me.
>
> You suffer from low self-esteem.

No, it's just a realistic view.  It's not that I usually feel
atrociously ugly or unkempt or whatever.  I'm not sure about "pulled
together" or "finished" exactly since their meanings are very fuzzy to
me, but pretty and ugly are gradable opposites, not complementary
opposites.  Iow, you don't have to be one or the other.  You can be
neither.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 01:25:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA17133
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 01:25:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB2F45@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 7:31:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13159437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 07:36:59 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DBZlQ25457 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 07:35:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws90-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.90]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DBZeq00108
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 06:35:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30108A.36981835@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 06:35:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Should I go out and bid on wild horses and burros today?  I could buy up
to four (if I can convince the authorities that I'm experienced with
such animals).  It might be kind of fun to have wild horses and burros
running around in the backyard with Spencer and Buddy.
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=4717673&BRD=2022&PAG=461&dept_id=335911&rfi=6
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 02:10:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA17195
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 02:10:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB30BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 8:15:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13160130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 08:21:21 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DCBKQ27456 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:11:20 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6DCBGUh003486 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:11:16 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207130809530.27879-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:11:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D30108A.36981835@maynor.net>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>Should I go out and bid on wild horses and burros today?  I could buy up
>to four (if I can convince the authorities that I'm experienced with
>such animals).  It might be kind of fun to have wild horses and burros

YOU'll need about an acre per wild horse/burro. Can you annex? Now
that you are retired, you can try - you have lots of time to spend
in law suits.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 02:35:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA17224
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 02:35:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB31F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 8:41:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13161548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 08:47:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DCl2Q29873 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:47:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws92-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.92]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DCksq13199
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 07:46:55 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207130809530.27879-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30213A.AAE9ED0E@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 07:46:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> YOU'll need about an acre per wild horse/burro. Can you annex? Now
> that you are retired, you can try - you have lots of time to spend
> in law suits.

Annex what?  Maybe I could trade my house for a farm.  I could have a
truck garden to make money to pay the vet bills.  Hmm.  Maybe I should
go to vet school first.  But I don't want to be a vet.  I hate medical
things.

I saw a wonderful young boxer at the vet's yesterday.  He had the
kindest face.  When I told his owner I wanted him, he said he was indeed
for sale -- that the mother had had nine puppies a year ago and they'd
decided to keep three of them but really need to get rid of two of those
three.  I didn't ask how much because I knew I couldn't add a dog right
now.  And if I did add one, it would be one more clearly in need of a
home.

What do wild horses and burros eat?  Could I grow their food on my farm,
or would I have to buy it at Wmart?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 02:36:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA17231
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 02:36:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB31F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 8:42:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13161564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 08:47:41 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DClfQ29915 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:47:41 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws92-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.92]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DClZq13421
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 07:47:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207130809530.27879-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D302165.A60CEF20@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 07:47:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

PS:  What do wild horses and burros have to do with lawsuits?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 03:07:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17280
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 03:06:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB328B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 9:12:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13162071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 09:18:08 -0400
Received: from mail.infochan.com (mail.infochan.com [208.52.68.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DDI3Q31521 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:18:07 -0400
Received: from [192.168.254.13] ([208.138.22.79]) by mail.infochan.com
          (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with
          ESMTP id com for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          08:17:55 -0500
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B95592B9.EDD8%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:18:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130305b95567fdb00f@[66.237.73.75]>

On 13/7/2002 12:25 AM, Bookrat wrote:

>>  I've always wondered how men carry those items.  don't they feel
>> vulnerable and unprepared out in the world without a purse?
>>
>>  Sharon
>
> I always feel vulnerable and unprepared when I go out without a purse.
> Fortunately, those occasions are few and far between.

There was a trend here about 20 years ago of men carrying 'pouches' - which
were little leather clutch purses. But the trend passed. You'll still see
one every now & then, and when I do I assume that there is a handgun inside
it.

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 03:07:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17287
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 03:07:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB328E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 9:12:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13161906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 09:18:19 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DD8IQ30979 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:08:18 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6DD8IUh012709 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:08:18 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207130904440.28140-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:08:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D30213A.AAE9ED0E@maynor.net>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>Annex what?

Land will probably have the best chance of giving you additional acres.

>Maybe I could trade my house for a farm.

Good idea.

>What do wild horses and burros eat?  Could I grow their food on my farm,
>or would I have to buy it at Wmart?

You'll need good grass (your new animals will produce the
fertilizer). Then in the winter you will need a barn full of hay - and
some grain. Try the farmers coop, not WalMart.

You will have to buy a small tractor. And some boots. And a hat. Maybe
overalls.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 03:07:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17291
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 03:07:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3290@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 9:13:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13161917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 09:18:55 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DD8sQ30996 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:08:54 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6DD8pUh012778 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:08:51 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207130908270.28140-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:08:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D302165.A60CEF20@maynor.net>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>PS:  What do wild horses and burros have to do with lawsuits?

When you annex your neighbors' lawns, they may sue you,

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 03:19:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA18708
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 03:19:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB32B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 9:25:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13162208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 09:30:32 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DDUVQ32024 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:30:31 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-33.panax.com
          [65.114.190.33]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6DDUCj22691 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          09:30:12 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <v03130305b95567fdb00f@[66.237.73.75]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020713092544.00b13828@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:30:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B95592B9.EDD8%peterlevy@email.com>

At 08:18 AM 7/13/2002 -0500, peter levy wrote:

>There was a trend here about 20 years ago of men carrying 'pouches' - which
>were little leather clutch purses. But the trend passed. You'll still see
>one every now & then, and when I do I assume that there is a handgun inside
>it.

Up until about six years ago, I carried one---it contained a couple of
pipes, pipe cleaners, tobacco, pens and pencils, etc.  I still have the
pouch but the rest of the stuff is gone.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 03:38:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA18765
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 03:38:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB332E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 9:44:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13162670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 09:50:00 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DDnnQ00756 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:49:49 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust158.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.160]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003898591@mx0.inoc.net>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:49:18 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D303052.E70B93F0@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:51:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      child arrested for overdue library book
Comments: To: school <jeffr@monm.edu>
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

A 12 year old girl was convicted Thursday of "unlawful retention of
library materials" in Denver.

Details:
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E53%257E725978,00.html
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 03:43:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA18772
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 03:43:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB334F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 9:49:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13162770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 09:54:37 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DDsbQ01047 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:54:37 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6DDsaQs009827 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 06:54:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207122133271.21156-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020713065407.00a44ea0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 06:54:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3007C1.A5A887C9@maynor.net>

>Speaking of coffee, I must say that Great Value coffee isn't very good.
>I'm far from a coffee snob, am not picky at all about my coffee, but
>even I can tell that this coffee is pretty bad.  I'll be glad when the
>can is empty -- which will be a while since it's new.
>
>--
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Give it away and buy something you'd enjoy more.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 03:50:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA18795
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 03:50:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB337C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 9:56:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13162902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 10:01:56 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DE1kQ01539 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:01:51 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6DE1Cb21524 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          09:01:12 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207130809530.27879-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001a01c22a75$f15adfc0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:02:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> >Should I go out and bid on wild horses and burros today?

Wild horses can't keep you away.

                - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 03:56:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA18801
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 03:56:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB33AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:01:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13163049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 10:07:28 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DE79Q01913 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:07:13 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ600I8OXVJTQ@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:06:55 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <4.2.2.20020711182400.00a2d100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020711190645.00a64af0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D2E3F68.876B444A@maynor.net> <3D2EEC71.9480D183@valstar.net>
            <3D2EF035.9070206@swbell.net> <3D2F1834.91611EF6@maynor.net>
            <3D2F8AC8.6080100@swbell.net> <3D2F8ED6.93256CB3@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D3033A4.8040205@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:05:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Natalie!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>Well, if one didn't know one had a fat ass, one might not
>>know when one was straining at the seams.
>>
>
> Wouldn't that have to do with clothing sizes?
>

Yes, the misperception of.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 05:35:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18918
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 05:35:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3747@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 11:40:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 11:46:13 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DFkDQ08623 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 11:46:13 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws173-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.173]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DFkAq18669
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:46:11 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207122133271.21156-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <4.2.2.20020713065407.00a44ea0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D304B3F.B7BB9083@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:46:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> Give it away and buy something you'd enjoy more.

I don't know who'd want it.  I'm probably less picky about coffee than
most people I know.  And I don't think the Salvation Army would take an
opened can of coffee.  I can live with it until it's gone.  It's not
really a big deal.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 05:36:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18922
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 05:36:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3754@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 11:42:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 11:47:34 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DFlYQ08696 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 11:47:34 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws173-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.173]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DFlWq18919
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:47:32 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207130809530.27879-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <001a01c22a75$f15adfc0$360332d1@0018079268>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D304B91.DB0B2C21@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:47:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:
> > >Should I go out and bid on wild horses and burros today?
>
> Wild horses can't keep you away.

But ugly weather can.  I thought about going out there to at least look
at the creatures but then thought about what a muddy mess the Horse Farm
probably is right now.  It rained a good bit yesterday afternoon and
last night and has been drizzling off and on so far today, with more
rain in the forecast.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 05:44:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18971
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 05:44:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3785@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 11:50:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 11:55:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DFtZQ09086 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 11:55:35 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A2C117EAB; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 08:55:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713155534.A2C117EAB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:55:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D304B3F.B7BB9083@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 13,
              2002 10:46: 7 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Betty wrote:
>
> > Give it away and buy something you'd enjoy more.
>
> I don't know who'd want it.  I'm probably less picky about coffee than
> most people I know.  And I don't think the Salvation Army would take an
> opened can of coffee.  I can live with it until it's gone.  It's not
> really a big deal.

This is something someone with low self-esteem does.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 06:25:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19680
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 06:25:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB38F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:30:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 12:36:22 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6DGaMQ12551 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          12:36:22 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6DGaL4117302 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul
          2002 12:36:21 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEIMFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:35:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020713065407.00a44ea0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> >Speaking of coffee, I must say that Great Value coffee isn't very good.
> >I'm far from a coffee snob, am not picky at all about my coffee, but
> >even I can tell that this coffee is pretty bad.  I'll be glad when the
> >can is empty -- which will be a while since it's new.
> >
> >--
> >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
> Give it away and buy something you'd enjoy more.
>
> Betty

Agreed. Indulge. Life is too damn short for sucky coffee. Go ahead, feel
naughty.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 06:26:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19687
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 06:26:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB38F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:31:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 12:37:23 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6DGbNQ12625 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          12:37:23 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6DGbN4327820 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul
          2002 12:37:23 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEINFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:36:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020713155534.A2C117EAB@yellow.rahul.net>

> Natalie Maynor said:
> > Betty wrote:
> >
> > > Give it away and buy something you'd enjoy more.
> >
> > I don't know who'd want it.  I'm probably less picky about coffee than
> > most people I know.  And I don't think the Salvation Army would take an
> > opened can of coffee.  I can live with it until it's gone.  It's not
> > really a big deal.
>
> This is something someone with low self-esteem does.
>
> Karen

Or someone who is very frugal or low on funds.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 06:39:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19706
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 06:39:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011F528@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:51:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 12:51:03 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DGp3Q13625 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:51:03 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust233.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.235]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005207228@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 12:51:01 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020713155534.A2C117EAB@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D305AE8.BEA6062E@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:52:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> This is something someone with low self-esteem does.

Then I have low self esteem, too. But throwing something like that out
goes against my Scotch blood, so I am not sure it is a lack of self
esteem, but more a matter of prudent guarding of my
lately-much-diminished retirement dollars.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 06:41:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19713
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 06:41:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3977@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:47:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 12:52:49 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DGqmQ13713 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:52:48 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6DGqmb08178 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          11:52:48 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000901c22a8d$eba04620$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 11:54:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Marathon
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

My daughter is here for a visit and two
days ago got on one of her son's horses
(out on our farm) and it reared, threw her
off and landed on top of her.  The call
from the hospital nearly gave us heart
attacks, because she's had two back
surgeries and has a titanium cage in her
spine.  Miraculously she is all right,
although very stiff and sore and resting
on the couch in our family room.

So we rented a stack of movies and broke
in the new DVD player.  So far have seen
Don't Say a Word, The Royal Tenenbaums,
K-Pax, Gosford Park, Harry Potter.  Will
rent another stack today, probably.

                        - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 06:44:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19725
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 06:44:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0011F550@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:55:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13168048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 12:55:21 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DGtLQ13848 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:55:21 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6DGtKQs000556 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:55:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020713155534.A2C117EAB@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020713095447.00a22660@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:55:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D305AE8.BEA6062E@valstar.net>

At 12:52 PM 7/13/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Karen Kay wrote:
> > This is something someone with low self-esteem does.
>
>Then I have low self esteem, too. But throwing something like that out
>goes against my Scotch blood, so I am not sure it is a lack of self
>esteem, but more a matter of prudent guarding of my
>lately-much-diminished retirement dollars.

It would be hard to throw it away but I'd be able to give it away.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 06:45:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19737
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 06:45:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB39A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:51:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13168125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 12:56:43 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DGuhQ13950 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:56:43 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6DGugQs023921 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:56:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020713095602.00a43800@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:56:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Marathon
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000901c22a8d$eba04620$360332d1@0018079268>

I'm glad she is okay.  I think I would think twice before I got back on a
horse again with that back. Why risk it?

Betty

At 11:54 AM 7/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>My daughter is here for a visit and two
>days ago got on one of her son's horses
>(out on our farm) and it reared, threw her
>off and landed on top of her.  The call
>from the hospital nearly gave us heart
>attacks, because she's had two back
>surgeries and has a titanium cage in her
>spine.  Miraculously she is all right,
>although very stiff and sore and resting
>on the couch in our family room.
>
>So we rented a stack of movies and broke
>in the new DVD player.  So far have seen
>Don't Say a Word, The Royal Tenenbaums,
>K-Pax, Gosford Park, Harry Potter.  Will
>rent another stack today, probably.
>
>                         - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 06:46:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19743
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 06:46:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB39A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:51:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 12:57:16 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DGlGQ13379 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:47:16 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6DGlGUh017508 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:47:16 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131244590.7361-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:47:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D304B3F.B7BB9083@maynor.net>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I don't know who'd want it.  I'm probably less picky about coffee than
>most people I know.  And I don't think the Salvation Army would take an
>opened can of coffee.  I can live with it until it's gone.  It's not

If I felt stuck with a can of bad coffee, I would go buy a small amount
of a really good (preferably fresh-roasted) coffee to use with it - a
small amount of really good coffee can do wonders for a pot of otherwise
mediocre or bad coffee.

I'd have to be pretty broke to put up with a can of bad coffee, though.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 06:47:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19748
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 06:47:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB39AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:52:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 12:58:25 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DGmPQ13419 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:48:25 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6DGmOUh017645 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:48:24 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131247350.7361-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:48:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D304B91.DB0B2C21@maynor.net>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> Wild horses can't keep you away.
>
>But ugly weather can.  I thought about going out there to at least look
>at the creatures but then thought about what a muddy mess the Horse Farm
>probably is right now.  It rained a good bit yesterday afternoon and
>last night and has been drizzling off and on so far today, with more
>rain in the forecast.

That's what the boots are for. And you'll need some kind of rain-jacket
and good rainhat.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 06:55:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19757
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 06:55:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB39EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:00:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13168114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:06:22 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DGuMQ13918 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:56:22 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6DGuLUh018945 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:56:21 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131254370.7361-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:56:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Marathon
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000901c22a8d$eba04620$360332d1@0018079268>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Doris Markland wrote:

>My daughter is here for a visit and two
>days ago got on one of her son's horses
>(out on our farm) and it reared, threw her
>off and landed on top of her.  The call
>from the hospital nearly gave us heart
>attacks, because she's had two back
>surgeries and has a titanium cage in her
>spine.  Miraculously she is all right,
>although very stiff and sore and resting
>on the couch in our family room.

Glad she's okay. I have come off a rearing horse, but I have nver had
one come down on top of me! It would be lovely if someone could arrange a
full-body massage for her almost immediately.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 06:58:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19770
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 06:58:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3A0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:03:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13168482 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:09:26 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DH9PQ14991 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:09:25 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6DH9OQs005181 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:09:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D304B3F.B7BB9083@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020713100836.00a2ade0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:09:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131244590.7361-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

At 12:47 PM 7/13/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> >I don't know who'd want it.  I'm probably less picky about coffee than
> >most people I know.  And I don't think the Salvation Army would take an
> >opened can of coffee.  I can live with it until it's gone.  It's not
>
>If I felt stuck with a can of bad coffee, I would go buy a small amount
>of a really good (preferably fresh-roasted) coffee to use with it - a
>small amount of really good coffee can do wonders for a pot of otherwise
>mediocre or bad coffee.
>
>I'd have to be pretty broke to put up with a can of bad coffee, though.

So you settle for mediocre coffee?  Yuk.  Life is short and it is worth
having good coffee.  I only need it once per day but it better be good.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:10:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19783
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:10:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3A5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:16:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13168789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:21:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DHLfQ15925 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:21:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8C7FD7D8F; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 10:21:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713172140.8C7FD7D8F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:21:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEINFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 13, 2002  9:36:20 am"

S Hess said:
> > Natalie Maynor said:
> > > Betty wrote:
> > >
> > > > Give it away and buy something you'd enjoy more.
> > >
> > > I don't know who'd want it.  I'm probably less picky about coffee than
> > > most people I know.  And I don't think the Salvation Army would take an
> > > opened can of coffee.  I can live with it until it's gone.  It's not
> > > really a big deal.
> >
> > This is something someone with low self-esteem does.
> >
> > Karen
>
> Or someone who is very frugal or low on funds.

True. I still would have a lot of trouble forcing myself to drink
coffee that I thought was bad enough to complain to the list about.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:10:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19790
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:10:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3A61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:16:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13168567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:21:45 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DHBjQ15165 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:11:45 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6DHBiUh022034 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:11:44 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131310250.7361-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:11:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020713100836.00a2ade0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

>>I'd have to be pretty broke to put up with a can of bad coffee, though.
>
>So you settle for mediocre coffee?  Yuk.  Life is short and it is worth
>having good coffee.  I only need it once per day but it better be good.

No. I would put up with it only if I were too broke to buy something
good. I am a coffee snob. I generally use only fresh-roasted Arabica
coffees,

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:19:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19803
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:19:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0011F6B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:30:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13168938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:30:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DHUOQ16423 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:30:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 017EE805D; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 10:30:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713173023.017EE805D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:30:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Some people have too much energy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I think it's unnatural to go to a big party, drop off your companion
at midnight, then go to eat dinner with the Tibetans, come home, read
a serious book, and be full of energy at noon.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:19:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19810
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:19:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3A8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:25:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13168951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:30:55 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DHUtQ16444 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:30:55 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6DHUsN19081 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:30:54 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207131229280.16635-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:30:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020713095447.00a22660@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

> It would be hard to throw it away but I'd be able to give it away.

I'd throw it away for sure.  I think I am still reacting to my family
training OUT OUT OUT there I feel better nobody can make me drink crap.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:22:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19817
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:22:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3AA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:28:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:33:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DHXbQ16602 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:33:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 66CFA805D; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 10:33:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713173336.66CFA805D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:33:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I have been tasked with removing blood and red wine stains from white
shorts. I'm thinking, make a paste of Oxyclean and leave it for a
while. What say you?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:22:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19824
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:22:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3AA5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:28:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:34:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DHY3Q16645 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:34:03 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4860F8098; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 10:34:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713173402.4860F8098@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:34:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207131229280.16635-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 13, 2002 12:30:53 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> I'd throw it away for sure.  I think I am still reacting to my family
> training OUT OUT OUT there I feel better nobody can make me drink crap.

Good for you!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:28:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19834
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:28:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3ABF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:34:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:40:08 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DHe8Q17001 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:40:08 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust233.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.235]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003902083@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:40:08 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020713173336.66CFA805D@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D306669.139C056B@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:42:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> I have been tasked with removing blood and red wine stains from white
> shorts. I'm thinking, make a paste of Oxyclean and leave it for a
> while. What say you?

I say, how did blood and red wine get on the shorts? Whose shorts are
they?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:30:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19850
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:30:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3ACC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:35:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:41:25 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DHfPQ17099 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:41:25 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6DHfOb09277 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          12:41:24 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <4.2.2.20020713095602.00a43800@uclink.berkeley.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000a01c22a94$b5c35900$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:42:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Marathon
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> I'm glad she is okay.  I think I would think twice before I got back
on a
> horse again with that back. Why risk it?
>
> Betty

Exactly.  We couldn't believe she
would even consider doing it.

                - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:31:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19877
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:31:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3AD9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:37:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:42:49 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DHgmQ17198 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:42:49 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6DHgmb10242 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          12:42:48 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131254370.7361-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001501c22a94$e7b7bd20$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:44:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Marathon
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Doris Markland wrote:
>
> >My daughter is here for a visit and two
> >days ago got on one of her son's horses
> >(out on our farm) and it reared, threw her
> >off and landed on top of her.  The call
> >from the hospital nearly gave us heart
> >attacks, because she's had two back
> >surgeries and has a titanium cage in her
> >spine.  Miraculously she is all right,
> >although very stiff and sore and resting
> >on the couch in our family room.
>
> Glad she's okay. I have come off a rearing horse, but I have nver had
> one come down on top of me! It would be lovely if someone could
arrange a
> full-body massage for her almost immediately.
>
> Bethany

Excellent idea.  I hadn't thought of that.
May do, although Saturday may be a
problem.

                          - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:36:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19885
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:36:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3AEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:41:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:47:12 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DHlBQ17482 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:47:11 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6DHlA319788 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:47:10 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207131244240.19121-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:47:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D306669.139C056B@valstar.net>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

> I say, how did blood and red wine get on the shorts?

Ancient Texan Satanic ritual, no doubt.  Or, some moron got blood on their
shorts and tried to get it out with wine.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:39:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19892
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:39:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3AFE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:45:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:50:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DHoxQ17658 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:50:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 997967DAA; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 10:50:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713175058.997967DAA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:50:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D306669.139C056B@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 13,
              2002  1:42: 1 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I have been tasked with removing blood and red wine stains from white
> > shorts. I'm thinking, make a paste of Oxyclean and leave it for a
> > while. What say you?
>
> I say, how did blood and red wine get on the shorts? Whose shorts are
> they?

They are *er*'s. I have no idea. I will interrogate him more closely
when I see where the stains are.

The red wine, I know--he's a spiller. I feel very comfortable with
him. I haven't asked him what his record for Chinese restaurants is,
though.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:42:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19922
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:42:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3B0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:48:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:54:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DHs0Q17807 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:54:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2DB937DEC; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 10:51:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713175147.2DB937DEC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:51:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207131244240.19121-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 13, 2002 12:47:10 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:
> > I say, how did blood and red wine get on the shorts?
>
> Ancient Texan Satanic ritual, no doubt.  Or, some moron got blood on their
> shorts and tried to get it out with wine.

I think there is more than one pair of shorts involved. I'll keep you
posted.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:45:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19937
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:45:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3B25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:51:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:56:32 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6DHuWQ17952 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          13:56:32 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6DHuV4380252 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul
          2002 13:56:31 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEJAFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:55:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

it's 10:55 pacific. I'm leaving in 15 minutes to talk a walk and meet up
with some friends for dim sum. I'll be buying groceries to prepare for
hosting my book club tomorrow.

Should I make fruit (sweet crepes) Banana Crepes with fruit sauce?

or

Ham, cheese, asparagus crepes

???

I really don't want to make both. That's too much for the 5 who will be
here.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:46:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19941
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:46:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3B30@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:52:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:57:32 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DHvWQ18030 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:57:32 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust233.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.235]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003902256@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:57:32 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020713175147.2DB937DEC@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D306A7D.717BCF87@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:59:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> I think there is more than one pair of shorts involved.

That's some ritual, getting blood and wine on numerous pair or is it
pairs?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:47:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19945
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:47:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3B36@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:53:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:58:40 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DHwdQ18094 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:58:39 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust233.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.235]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005208109@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:58:38 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEJAFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D306AC0.5E53146D@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:00:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:
>
> Ham, cheese, asparagus crepes

Yes. I don't care much for fruit.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:49:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19950
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:49:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0011F7CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:01:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 14:01:05 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DI15Q18259 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:01:05 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6DI14F20312 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:01:04 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207131300470.19797-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:01:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEJAFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

I'd rather eat the ham cheese asparagus things, thanks

Ann

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, S Hess wrote:

> it's 10:55 pacific. I'm leaving in 15 minutes to talk a walk and meet up
> with some friends for dim sum. I'll be buying groceries to prepare for
> hosting my book club tomorrow.
>
> Should I make fruit (sweet crepes) Banana Crepes with fruit sauce?
>
> or
>
> Ham, cheese, asparagus crepes
>
> ???
>
> I really don't want to make both. That's too much for the 5 who will be
> here.
>
> Sandra
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:54:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19957
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:54:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3B7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:59:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 14:05:29 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6DI5TQ18588 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          14:05:29 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6DI5S496670 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          14:05:28 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEJBFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 11:04:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207131300470.19797-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

Ham Cheese Aparpagus wins....I also got a vote from my neighbor who belongs
to the club.  I love making crepes and Bastille Day is a great excuse.

We'll be chatting about Kingsolver's Prodigal Summer. I'm very much enjoying
it (still have to finish).

Sandra

> I'd rather eat the ham cheese asparagus things, thanks
>
> Ann
>
> On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, S Hess wrote:
>
> > it's 10:55 pacific. I'm leaving in 15 minutes to talk a walk and meet up
> > with some friends for dim sum. I'll be buying groceries to prepare for
> > hosting my book club tomorrow.
> >
> > Should I make fruit (sweet crepes) Banana Crepes with fruit sauce?
> >
> > or
> >
> > Ham, cheese, asparagus crepes
> >
> > ???
> >
> > I really don't want to make both. That's too much for the 5 who will be
> > here.
> >
> > Sandra
> >
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 07:56:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19964
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 07:56:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3B89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:02:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 14:07:49 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DHvnQ18041 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:57:49 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6DHvmUh006030 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:57:48 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131357280.7361-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:57:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEJAFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, S Hess wrote:

>
>Should I make fruit (sweet crepes) Banana Crepes with fruit sauce?
>
>or
>
>Ham, cheese, asparagus crepes

The latter.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 08:48:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20022
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 08:48:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3CB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:53:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13170777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 14:59:20 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DIxJQ21742 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:59:19 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id VAA16261 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:59:18
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA16178 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat,
          13 Jul 2002 21:59:16 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>
            <20020711140921.A6248@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D2D8335.4FD98D54@maynor.net> <3D2DD50E.F13990A7@akad.ee>
            <3D2DEFCB.DDCCC364@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30785E.44075B5F@akad.ee>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:58:38 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> When is it you're leaving on your trip?  I think I have July 22 stuck in
> my mind for it.

It is July 23.

There are 351 messages entering my mail-box now; now they have received. I
didn't read the post yesterday, and now I try to read as much as I can
during about an hour.

There's much to do before the trip. Some work to be finished. And: today we
bought wallpaper for Imbi's room and three nice wall-lamps, so there'll be
no ceiling lamp. We also did some preparations late in the afternoon for
wallpapering -- we'll do it ourselves --, then I went swimming in the river,
and now I'm here, socks on, btw.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 08:54:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20029
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 08:54:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0011FAB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:05:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13170879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 15:05:08 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DJ57Q22066 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:05:07 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id WAA16571 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 22:05:06
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA16488 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat,
          13 Jul 2002 22:05:05 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>
            <20020711140921.A6248@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D2D8335.4FD98D54@maynor.net> <3D2DD50E.F13990A7@akad.ee>
            <3D2DEFCB.DDCCC364@maynor.net> <3D30785E.44075B5F@akad.ee>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3079BB.9CEA3D77@akad.ee>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 22:04:27 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Kristin Sarv wrote:

> 351 messages entering my mail-box now; now they have received.

I've received them, I wanted to say.

Kr.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 08:55:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20036
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 08:55:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3CE4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:01:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13170904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 15:06:38 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DJ6bQ22126 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:06:37 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id WAA16992 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 22:06:36
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA16909 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat,
          13 Jul 2002 22:06:35 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net> <3D2D7122.D664FE59@maynor.net>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020711141841.00b84668@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020712111908.027c06e8@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D307A15.8EBA79B4@akad.ee>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 22:05:57 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:

> >Tallinn
>
> I am sorry!

You're welcome :)

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 09:21:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20076
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 09:21:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3D7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:26:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13171414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 15:32:16 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DJWFQ23673 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:32:15 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id WAA20547 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 22:32:14
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA20464 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat,
          13 Jul 2002 22:32:12 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000901c22a8d$eba04620$360332d1@0018079268>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D308016.BA2CAFB4@akad.ee>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 22:31:34 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Marathon
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:

>   Miraculously she is all right,
> although very stiff and sore and resting
> on the couch in our family room.

Oh! I hope she'll become more all right.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 09:25:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20090
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 09:25:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3D9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:31:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13171515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 15:37:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DJb4Q23955 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:37:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EBBF2818E; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 12:37:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713193703.EBBF2818E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:37:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      CD cases
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter--

I saw doubles for .65 and 6's for .89 today.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 09:26:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20097
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 09:26:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3D9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:32:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13171519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 15:37:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DJbgQ23963 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:37:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D4F9D80EC; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 12:37:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713193741.D4F9D80EC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:37:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D306A7D.717BCF87@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 13,
              2002  1:59:25 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I think there is more than one pair of shorts involved.
>
> That's some ritual, getting blood and wine on numerous pair or is it
> pairs?

He's from a foreign country, what can I say.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 09:26:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20101
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 09:26:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3DA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:32:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13171532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 15:37:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DJbxQ23989 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:37:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 425B98093; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 12:37:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713193758.425B98093@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:37:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D306AC0.5E53146D@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 13,
              2002  2: 0:32 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> S Hess wrote:
> >
> > Ham, cheese, asparagus crepes
>
> Yes. I don't care much for fruit.

Me, too, although I like fruit.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 09:50:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20196
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 09:50:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3E62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:56:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13172091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 16:01:41 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DK1fQ25344 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:01:41 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust233.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.235]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003904004@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 16:01:32 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020713193741.D4F9D80EC@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30878D.BE966EF3@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:03:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> He's from a foreign country, what can I say.

Well, of course, we all know people from other countries who do not have
wine- and blood=stained shorts. What can I say?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 10:00:43 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20286
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 10:00:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27752
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:01:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3E9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:02:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13172247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 16:07:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DK7fQ25665 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:07:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CD1E07C92; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:07:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713200740.CD1E07C92@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:07:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D30878D.BE966EF3@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 13,
              2002  4: 3:25 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > He's from a foreign country, what can I say.
>
> Well, of course, we all know people from other countries who do not have
> wine- and blood=stained shorts. What can I say?

LOL. I don't know, but all *I* can say is that I'm glad his energy
pooped out finally and he's taking a nap.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 10:15:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20388
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 10:15:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3F13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:21:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13172653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 16:26:52 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DKQqQ26841 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:26:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 89AD28182; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:24:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713202438.89AD28182@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:24:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Portobellos?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

What would you do with leftover sliced portobellos? Probably
equivalent to 1.45 mushroom caps.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 10:35:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20475
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 10:35:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB3FA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:40:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13172866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 16:46:07 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DKa7Q27445 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:36:07 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6DKa7Uh002745 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:36:07 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131635430.928-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:36:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Portobellos?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020713202438.89AD28182@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>What would you do with leftover sliced portobellos? Probably
>equivalent to 1.45 mushroom caps.

Use in omelets, scrambled eggs, sandwiches (grilled).

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 10:43:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20513
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 10:43:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB4006@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:49:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13173370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 16:54:46 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DKskQ28936 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:54:46 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 871D98346; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 13:54:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020713205445.871D98346@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:54:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Portobellos?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131635430.928-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 13, 2002  4:36: 7 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >What would you do with leftover sliced portobellos? Probably
> >equivalent to 1.45 mushroom caps.
>
> Use in omelets, scrambled eggs, sandwiches (grilled).

I'm thinking prosciutto portobello scramble for a few days.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 11:03:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20620
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 11:03:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001200A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:14:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13174494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 17:14:30 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DL4UQ29895 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:04:30 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6DL4TUh006980 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:04:29 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131703520.1257-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:04:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Portobellos?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020713205445.871D98346@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>I'm thinking prosciutto portobello scramble for a few days.

Sounds GREAT! I have not tried that combo yet.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 11:40:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23528
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 11:40:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB42B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:45:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 17:51:19 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DLpJQ00457 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:51:19 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-33.panax.com
          [65.114.190.33]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6DLpIj25117 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          17:51:18 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131635430.928-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020713174354.00b4cdb8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:46:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Portobellos?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020713205445.871D98346@yellow.rahul.net>

At 01:54 PM 7/13/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
>Bethany K. Dumas said:
> > On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> > >What would you do with leftover sliced portobellos? Probably
> > >equivalent to 1.45 mushroom caps.
> >
> > Use in omelets, scrambled eggs, sandwiches (grilled).
>
>I'm thinking prosciutto portobello scramble for a few days.

That's good.  Another possibility---chop and saute the 'rooms with
vermouth, garlic, shallots, and herbs, and use to stuff a small pork loin
or a couple of double-thick pork chops.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:04:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23632
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:04:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB43C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:10:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:15:36 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DMFZQ01946 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:15:36 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust76.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.78]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003905696@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:15:35 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020713202438.89AD28182@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30A6F7.8C04B5D7@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:17:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Portobellos?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> What would you do with leftover sliced portobellos? Probably
> equivalent to 1.45 mushroom caps.

Put them in a salad? Saute them with whatever meat you might do in a
pan? But that is so little, why not just eat them?

alyce

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:17:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23677
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:17:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB4417@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:22:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:28:08 -0400
Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6DMS8Q02727 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          18:28:08 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0104.dialsprint.net ([63.190.0.104]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17TVN2-0004nu-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat,
          13 Jul 2002 18:28:08 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207122133271.21156-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <4.2.2.20020713065407.00a44ea0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D304B3F.B7BB9083@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30A975.E6AE64AE@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:28:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Betty wrote:
>
> > Give it away and buy something you'd enjoy more.
>
> I don't know who'd want it.  I'm probably less picky about coffee than
> most people I know.  And I don't think the Salvation Army would take an
> opened can of coffee.  I can live with it until it's gone.  It's not
> really a big deal.

You could take it to school and donate it to the faculty "coffee" collection...

--
Sylvia Edwards
Litopia    http://www.edwardsly.com
Sylvie's Place    http://www.geocities.com/s.words/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:19:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23681
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:19:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB4421@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:25:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:30:43 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DMUgQ02858 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:30:43 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws193-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.193]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DMUdq16733
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:30:39 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020713155534.A2C117EAB@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30AA0C.58619821@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:30:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> This is something someone with low self-esteem does.

No, it's what someone who doesn't think coffee is the most important
thing in the world does.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:22:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23696
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:22:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB4438@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:28:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:33:51 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DMXpQ03027 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:33:51 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6DMXoQs027563 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:33:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020713155534.A2C117EAB@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020713153324.00a382c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:33:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D30AA0C.58619821@maynor.net>

At 05:30 PM 7/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > This is something someone with low self-esteem does.
>
>No, it's what someone who doesn't think coffee is the most important
>thing in the world does.

What IS the most important thing in the world?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:24:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23700
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:24:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB4447@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:30:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:35:58 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DMZvQ03272 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:35:57 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws193-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.193]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DMZrq17756
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:35:54 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131247350.7361-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30AB47.5C276169@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:35:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> That's what the boots are for. And you'll need some kind of rain-jacket
> and good rainhat.

I have boots.  They hiked many miles years ago and have in more recent
years been used mainly for xmas-tree-cutting excursions.  And I have a
rain jacket.  Or at least I think that's what I'd call it -- a hooded
windbreakerish jacket I bought in Anchorage one day when cold rain was
falling.  I use it fairly often in winter.  I don't really know what a
rainhat is.  But heads don't need protection from rain, imho.  They dry
quite easily.  No naked body parts need protection from rain.  It's
clothes that do since wet clothes can feel really bad after a while.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:26:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23704
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:26:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB444D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:32:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:37:59 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DMbxQ03382 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:37:59 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws193-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.193]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DMbvq18164
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:37:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000901c22a8d$eba04620$360332d1@0018079268>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30ABC3.4BFD1DFE@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:37:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Marathon
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

My gosh, Doris.  Your life *does* stay interesting.  I'm glad that stiff
and sore are the only problems that resulted from the experience!

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:27:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23715
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:27:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB4451@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:32:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:38:26 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DMcQQ03408 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:38:26 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws193-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.193]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DMcLq18234
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:38:22 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020713155534.A2C117EAB@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020713095447.00a22660@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30ABDB.85D4E72B@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:38:19 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> It would be hard to throw it away but I'd be able to give it away.

To whom?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:32:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23728
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:31:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012042A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:43:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:43:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DMh2Q03811 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:43:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws193-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.193]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DMgxq19174
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:43:00 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020713172140.8C7FD7D8F@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30ACF1.EA29BFC@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:42:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> True. I still would have a lot of trouble forcing myself to drink
> coffee that I thought was bad enough to complain to the list about.

Y'all are turning this into something *much* bigger than it is.  I
hadn't thought that my comment was exactly <complaining on the list>.
When I was sitting here this morning sipping my first (of my usual two)
cup of coffee, I realized that even I could taste a difference in this
Great Value (Wmart brand) coffee and that those of you I remembered as
being majorly picky about coffee should be warned against it.  But then
I guess that was silly since big-time coffee freaks aren't likely to buy
Wmart's house brand of coffee anyway, now that I think about it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:33:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23736
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:33:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB447C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:39:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:44:52 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DMiqQ03927 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:44:52 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws193-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.193]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DMinq19527
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:44:50 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020713175058.997967DAA@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30AD5F.FDC5172C@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:44:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> They are *er*'s. I have no idea. I will interrogate him more closely
> when I see where the stains are.

And exactly why were you assigned this task?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:34:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23744
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:34:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB4481@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:40:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:45:38 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DMjcQ04003 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:45:38 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6DMjbQs009816 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:45:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020713155534.A2C117EAB@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020713095447.00a22660@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020713154449.00a3e330@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:45:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D30ABDB.85D4E72B@maynor.net>

At 05:38 PM 7/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > It would be hard to throw it away but I'd be able to give it away.
>
>To whom?

I'd probably take it to work and just leave it in one of the break rooms.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:35:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23748
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:35:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00120450@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:46:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:46:10 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DMkAQ04055 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:46:10 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws193-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.193]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DMk7q19768
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:46:07 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207122133271.21156-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <4.2.2.20020713065407.00a44ea0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D304B3F.B7BB9083@maynor.net>
            <3D30A975.E6AE64AE@pop.mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30ADAD.551AB97@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:46:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sylvia Edwards wrote:

> You could take it to school and donate it to the faculty "coffee" collection...

I'm not sure what a faculty coffee collection is.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:36:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23752
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:36:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB4498@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:42:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:47:42 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DMlgQ04226 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:47:42 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws193-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.193]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DMldq20105
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:47:39 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020713155534.A2C117EAB@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020713153324.00a382c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30AE09.32B7E3F@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:47:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> What IS the most important thing in the world?

My goodness.  That's not a question that can be answered quickly or
easily.  I do feel confident in saying that it's not coffee, though.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:37:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23756
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:37:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00120475@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:48:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:48:58 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DMmwQ04356 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:48:58 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws193-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.193]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DMmtq20417
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:48:56 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020713155534.A2C117EAB@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020713095447.00a22660@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020713154449.00a3e330@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30AE55.952A894A@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:48:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> I'd probably take it to work and just leave it in one of the break rooms.

For somebody to take home?  I think I'd be suspicious of a strange can
of coffee just sitting around in the mail room or wherever.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:45:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23784
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:45:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB44C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:50:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:56:24 -0400
Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.60]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6DMuNQ04795 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          18:56:23 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0104.dialsprint.net ([63.190.0.104]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #1) id 17TVoM-00067d-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:56:23 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207122133271.21156-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <4.2.2.20020713065407.00a44ea0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D304B3F.B7BB9083@maynor.net>
            <3D30A975.E6AE64AE@pop.mindspring.com> <3D30ADAD.551AB97@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30B016.DCBD3E5D@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:56:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Sylvia Edwards wrote:
>
> > You could take it to school and donate it to the faculty "coffee" collection...
>
> I'm not sure what a faculty coffee collection is.

The faculty lounge or break room usually needs coffee and brands don't
matter as lounge coffee usually tastes odd.


Sylvia Edwards
Litopia    http://www.edwardsly.com
Sylvie's Place    http://www.geocities.com/s.words/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:47:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23796
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:47:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB44E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:52:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:58:20 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DMwKQ04947 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:58:20 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6DMwJQs022051 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:58:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020713155534.A2C117EAB@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020713153324.00a382c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020713155748.00a378e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:58:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D30AE09.32B7E3F@maynor.net>

At 05:47 PM 7/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > What IS the most important thing in the world?
>
>My goodness.  That's not a question that can be answered quickly or
>easily.  I do feel confident in saying that it's not coffee, though.

Give me your answer tomorrow after you sleep on it.  It's okay that it is
not coffee.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:48:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23800
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:48:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB44E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:53:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 18:59:22 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DMxMQ04998 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:59:22 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6DMxLQs003285 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:59:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020713155534.A2C117EAB@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020713095447.00a22660@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020713154449.00a3e330@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020713155831.00a38980@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:59:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D30AE55.952A894A@maynor.net>

At 05:48 PM 7/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > I'd probably take it to work and just leave it in one of the break rooms.
>
>For somebody to take home?  I think I'd be suspicious of a strange can
>of coffee just sitting around in the mail room or wherever.

There are a few coffee pots around the building. I'm sure it would get
used. If someone wanted to take it home, that would be okay, too.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:50:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23804
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:50:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB4533@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:55:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 19:01:25 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DMpPQ04497 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:51:25 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6DMpOUh025088 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:51:24 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131850290.10420-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:51:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D30AE55.952A894A@maynor.net>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> I'd probably take it to work and just leave it in one of the break rooms.
>
>For somebody to take home?  I think I'd be suspicious of a strange can
>of coffee just sitting around in the mail room or wherever.

Perhps you can leave it in the coffee room. It would fit right into ours -
the coffee there is so bad that I will not drink it. I make my own.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:52:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23812
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:52:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB453B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:57:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 19:03:12 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DN3CQ05308 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:03:12 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws111-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.111]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DN39q23929
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:03:09 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207122133271.21156-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <4.2.2.20020713065407.00a44ea0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D304B3F.B7BB9083@maynor.net>
            <3D30A975.E6AE64AE@pop.mindspring.com>
            <3D30ADAD.551AB97@maynor.net> <3D30B016.DCBD3E5D@pop.mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30B1AA.2E7D0CF9@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:03:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sylvia Edwards wrote:

> The faculty lounge or break room usually needs coffee and brands don't
> matter as lounge coffee usually tastes odd.

I don't know what lounge coffee is.  Nor do I know what a faculty lounge
is.  Wait -- I do remember "the teachers' lounge" from when I taught
high school many years ago.  It was a place for teachers to go sit
around and that students weren't allowed in.  Whether coffee was
involved, I don't remember.  I know of no such places at MSU, though.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:54:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23824
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:53:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB454F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:59:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 19:05:02 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6DN52Q05481 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          19:05:02 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6DN514132984 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul
          2002 19:05:01 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEJFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:03:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D30AB47.5C276169@maynor.net>

> "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> > That's what the boots are for. And you'll need some kind of rain-jacket
> > and good rainhat.
>
> I have boots.  They hiked many miles years ago and have in more recent
> years been used mainly for xmas-tree-cutting excursions.  And I have a
> rain jacket.  Or at least I think that's what I'd call it -- a hooded
> windbreakerish jacket I bought in Anchorage one day when cold rain was
> falling.  I use it fairly often in winter.  I don't really know what a
> rainhat is.  But heads don't need protection from rain, imho.  They dry
> quite easily.  No naked body parts need protection from rain.  It's
> clothes that do since wet clothes can feel really bad after a while.
>
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

I love rainhats...especially since I don't want to let the rain deter me
when I want to go for a walk. I can't stand holding umbrellas when walking
long distances.

Maybe Bonnie or Clyde can help me. I want to get one of those Maine
fisherman type rain hats. They look longer on the sides and shorter rim  in
front to allow for better vision. I've looked online but haven't found any.
I think they're usually yellow and shiny looking. Any ideas on how I can get
one?

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:54:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23828
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:54:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB4555@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:59:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 19:05:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DN5TQ05516 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:05:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws111-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.111]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DN5Qq24605
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:05:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131850290.10420-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30B234.D69EFDB1@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:05:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> Perhps you can leave it in the coffee room. It would fit right into ours -
> the coffee there is so bad that I will not drink it. I make my own.

What's a "coffee room"?  Is this what Sylvia was talking about?  I've
never noticed exactly what people who drink coffee after arriving at
work do for a source, but my guess is that either they bring it in a
thermos, make it in their offices, or (most likely) take a break and go
get coffee from one of the various places on campus that sell coffee.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 12:58:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23839
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 12:58:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB4573@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:03:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 19:09:20 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DN9KQ05757 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:09:20 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws111-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.111]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DN9Iq25542
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:09:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020713155534.A2C117EAB@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020713153324.00a382c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020713155748.00a378e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30B31B.B68CF1BB@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:09:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> Give me your answer tomorrow after you sleep on it.  It's okay that it is
> not coffee.

Remind me tomorrow.  I am likely to forget the question.  I guess I'd
have to say that the most important thing in the world is
happiness/contentment.  That looks somehow starkly selfish, but I think
that for most people happiness and contentment come only when helping
others living beings is involved in their lives.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 13:02:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23853
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 13:02:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB4587@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:07:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 19:13:07 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DND7Q06064 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:13:07 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6DND6Qs030737 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:13:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D30AB47.5C276169@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020713161250.00a385b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:13:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEJFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

At 04:03 PM 7/13/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
> >
> > > That's what the boots are for. And you'll need some kind of rain-jacket
> > > and good rainhat.
> >
> > I have boots.  They hiked many miles years ago and have in more recent
> > years been used mainly for xmas-tree-cutting excursions.  And I have a
> > rain jacket.  Or at least I think that's what I'd call it -- a hooded
> > windbreakerish jacket I bought in Anchorage one day when cold rain was
> > falling.  I use it fairly often in winter.  I don't really know what a
> > rainhat is.  But heads don't need protection from rain, imho.  They dry
> > quite easily.  No naked body parts need protection from rain.  It's
> > clothes that do since wet clothes can feel really bad after a while.
> >
> >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
>I love rainhats...especially since I don't want to let the rain deter me
>when I want to go for a walk. I can't stand holding umbrellas when walking
>long distances.
>
>Maybe Bonnie or Clyde can help me. I want to get one of those Maine
>fisherman type rain hats. They look longer on the sides and shorter rim  in
>front to allow for better vision. I've looked online but haven't found any.
>I think they're usually yellow and shiny looking. Any ideas on how I can get
>one?

Like this?  http://www.outdoorsplusmore.com/hats_opm_southwestern.asp

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 13:02:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23857
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 13:02:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB4589@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:07:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 19:13:10 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DND9Q06069 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:13:10 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws111-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.111]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6DND6q26450
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:13:07 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEJFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D30B400.C2D7A5EA@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:13:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:

> I love rainhats...especially since I don't want to let the rain deter me
> when I want to go for a walk. I can't stand holding umbrellas when walking
> long distances.

I bet you wear glasses and need them for walks.  That's the only thing I
can think of that's a negative when walking in rain, other than wet
clothes if you won't have a chance to change them right away (and which
a hat won't protect).  I'm happy to have reached a point in life when I
don't really need my glasses.  I still wear them most of the time, but I
wouldn't if walking in the rain.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 13:06:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23876
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 13:06:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001205CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:17:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 19:17:50 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DN7oQ05691 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:07:50 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6DN7nUh027616 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:07:50 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131905580.10420-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:07:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D30B234.D69EFDB1@maynor.net>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>What's a "coffee room"?  Is this what Sylvia was talking about?  I've
>never noticed exactly what people who drink coffee after arriving at

It is a space enclosed with walls and having a door that also has at least
a table, some electrical outlets, a coffee pot, perhaps a refrigerator -
and various sorts of really bad coffee and (in our case) mediocre
teabags. Oh, and dirty coefee pots.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 13:08:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23880
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 13:08:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB45B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:13:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 19:19:25 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6DNJOQ06409 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          19:19:24 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6DNJO4359858 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul
          2002 19:19:24 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEJGFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:18:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D30B31B.B68CF1BB@maynor.net>

> > Betty wrote:
>
> > Give me your answer tomorrow after you sleep on it.  It's okay
> that it is
> > not coffee.
>
> Remind me tomorrow.  I am likely to forget the question.  I guess I'd
> have to say that the most important thing in the world is
> happiness/contentment.  That looks somehow starkly selfish, but I think
> that for most people happiness and contentment come only when helping
> others living beings is involved in their lives.
>
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

I just took the bus home and sitting across from me was a 50ish chinese
woman. I've never seen a sadder looking person in my life. Everything about
her was slumped and dejected and there was no light in her eyes. No real
sign of life. Someone who seemed to have been beaten down so far she
couldn't imagine ever being happy again. It bothered me to see someone who
had just given up and was barely surviving. I'll admit that my first
reaction was to blame this on her husband...if one exists. She didn't seem
desperate...just doomed to live a life of misery.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 13:09:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23884
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 13:09:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001205F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:20:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 19:20:50 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6DNKoQ06460 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          19:20:50 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6DNKn4160026 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul
          2002 19:20:49 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEJHFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:19:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020713161250.00a385b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> > > I have boots.  They hiked many miles years ago and have in more recent
> > > years been used mainly for xmas-tree-cutting excursions.  And I have a
> > > rain jacket.  Or at least I think that's what I'd call it -- a hooded
> > > windbreakerish jacket I bought in Anchorage one day when cold rain was
> > > falling.  I use it fairly often in winter.  I don't really know what a
> > > rainhat is.  But heads don't need protection from rain, imho.
>  They dry
> > > quite easily.  No naked body parts need protection from rain.  It's
> > > clothes that do since wet clothes can feel really bad after a while.
> > >
> > >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
> >
> >I love rainhats...especially since I don't want to let the rain deter me
> >when I want to go for a walk. I can't stand holding umbrellas
> when walking
> >long distances.
> >
> >Maybe Bonnie or Clyde can help me. I want to get one of those Maine
> >fisherman type rain hats. They look longer on the sides and
> shorter rim  in
> >front to allow for better vision. I've looked online but haven't
> found any.
> >I think they're usually yellow and shiny looking. Any ideas on
> how I can get
> >one?
>
> Like this?  http://www.outdoorsplusmore.com/hats_opm_southwestern.asp

Betty,

you are amazing. I've done a number of searches and came up with nothing. I
did a search for rain hats. What did you do?

this is great!

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 13:12:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23896
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 13:12:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00120614@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:23:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 19:23:38 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DNNcQ06605 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:23:38 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6DNNbQs014448 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:23:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020713161250.00a385b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020713162301.00a3e420@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:23:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEJHFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

At 04:19 PM 7/13/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > > > I have boots.  They hiked many miles years ago and have in more recent
> > > > years been used mainly for xmas-tree-cutting excursions.  And I have a
> > > > rain jacket.  Or at least I think that's what I'd call it -- a hooded
> > > > windbreakerish jacket I bought in Anchorage one day when cold rain was
> > > > falling.  I use it fairly often in winter.  I don't really know what a
> > > > rainhat is.  But heads don't need protection from rain, imho.
> >  They dry
> > > > quite easily.  No naked body parts need protection from rain.  It's
> > > > clothes that do since wet clothes can feel really bad after a while.
> > > >
> > > >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
> > >
> > >I love rainhats...especially since I don't want to let the rain deter me
> > >when I want to go for a walk. I can't stand holding umbrellas
> > when walking
> > >long distances.
> > >
> > >Maybe Bonnie or Clyde can help me. I want to get one of those Maine
> > >fisherman type rain hats. They look longer on the sides and
> > shorter rim  in
> > >front to allow for better vision. I've looked online but haven't
> > found any.
> > >I think they're usually yellow and shiny looking. Any ideas on
> > how I can get
> > >one?
> >
> > Like this?  http://www.outdoorsplusmore.com/hats_opm_southwestern.asp
>
>Betty,
>
>you are amazing. I've done a number of searches and came up with nothing. I
>did a search for rain hats. What did you do?
>
>this is great!

I just put in rain hat in google.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 13:15:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23913
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 13:15:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB45D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:20:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 19:26:07 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6DNQ7Q06739 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          19:26:07 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6DNQ64157382 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul
          2002 19:26:06 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEJHFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:25:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D30B400.C2D7A5EA@maynor.net>

> S Hess wrote:
>
> > I love rainhats...especially since I don't want to let the rain deter me
> > when I want to go for a walk. I can't stand holding umbrellas
> when walking
> > long distances.
>
> I bet you wear glasses and need them for walks.  That's the only thing I
> can think of that's a negative when walking in rain, other than wet
> clothes if you won't have a chance to change them right away (and which
> a hat won't protect).  I'm happy to have reached a point in life when I
> don't really need my glasses.  I still wear them most of the time, but I
> wouldn't if walking in the rain.
> >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Nope. I wear disposable contacts. I have HORRENDOUS eyesight. -10 in one eye
and -11 in the other. I do often wear sunglasses, though.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 13:16:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23917
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 13:16:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB45DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:21:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 19:27:15 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6DNRFQ06802 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          19:27:15 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6DNRE4162412 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul
          2002 19:27:15 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEJIFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:26:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020713162301.00a3e420@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> At 04:19 PM 7/13/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > > > > I have boots.  They hiked many miles years ago and have
> in more recent
> > > > > years been used mainly for xmas-tree-cutting excursions.
> And I have a
> > > > > rain jacket.  Or at least I think that's what I'd call it
> -- a hooded
> > > > > windbreakerish jacket I bought in Anchorage one day when
> cold rain was
> > > > > falling.  I use it fairly often in winter.  I don't
> really know what a
> > > > > rainhat is.  But heads don't need protection from rain, imho.
> > >  They dry
> > > > > quite easily.  No naked body parts need protection from
> rain.  It's
> > > > > clothes that do since wet clothes can feel really bad
> after a while.
> > > > >
> > > > >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
> > > >
> > > >I love rainhats...especially since I don't want to let the
> rain deter me
> > > >when I want to go for a walk. I can't stand holding umbrellas
> > > when walking
> > > >long distances.
> > > >
> > > >Maybe Bonnie or Clyde can help me. I want to get one of those Maine
> > > >fisherman type rain hats. They look longer on the sides and
> > > shorter rim  in
> > > >front to allow for better vision. I've looked online but haven't
> > > found any.
> > > >I think they're usually yellow and shiny looking. Any ideas on
> > > how I can get
> > > >one?
> > >
> > > Like this?  http://www.outdoorsplusmore.com/hats_opm_southwestern.asp
> >
> >Betty,
> >
> >you are amazing. I've done a number of searches and came up with
> nothing. I
> >did a search for rain hats. What did you do?
> >
> >this is great!
>
> I just put in rain hat in google.
>
> Betty

hmmmm. I used google, too. Oh well. It's been some months since I tried.
Well, thanks again. I'm measuring my head and then ordering!

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 13:30:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23941
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 13:30:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB4613@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:36:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 19:41:58 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DNVwQ06976 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:31:58 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6DNVvUh032032 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:31:58 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131929470.10420-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:31:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      how long is a book?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I am completing a book proposal this weekend (textbook on language and
law) - the potential publisher wants an estimate of how many words the
completed ms. will be. Assuming a <normal> (as Natalie uses the
word) textbook length ms., how many words will it be?
I think we (I have a co-author) will produce a ms. of 300-350 pages.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 13:35:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23949
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 13:35:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB4622@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:40:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 19:46:29 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DNkSQ07726 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:46:28 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6DNkRh01208 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:46:27 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207131845080.29327-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:46:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEJIFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, S Hess wrote:

> > >did a search for rain hats. What did you do?
> > I just put in rain hat in google.
>
> hmmmm. I used google, too. Oh well. It's been some months since I tried.
> Well, thanks again. I'm measuring my head and then ordering!

singular/plural can make a big difference; and are you sure you put in
'rain hat' and not 'rainhat'?

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 13:51:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24006
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 13:51:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB4660@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:56:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 20:02:24 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6E02OQ08516 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          20:02:24 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JWC02084; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:02:23 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KGB01909; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:02:22 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D303319.30972.38B5A49@localhost>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:03:05 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: how long is a book?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131929470.10420-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

On 13 Jul 2002 at 19:31, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> Assuming a <normal> (as Natalie uses the word)
> textbook length ms., how many words will it be? I think we (I have
> a co-author) will produce a ms. of 300-350 pages.

Depends on whether you use a lot of big lawyer words or mostly small words that I can understand. Assuming normal
margins and type size that's not tiny, use a guideline of 250 to 275 words per page. Three hundred pages would work out
to somewhere about 75,000 to 80,000 words.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 14:03:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24038
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 14:03:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001207D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:14:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 20:14:20 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe16.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.120]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6E0EKQ09141 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:14:20 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          13 Jul 2002 17:14:15 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.67]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2002 00:14:15.0165 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[633FD2D0:01C22ACB]
Message-ID:  <OE16R1TH8GsFTWPdjnu0000b6a9@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:15:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: how long is a book?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I am completing a book proposal this weekend (textbook on language and
law) - the potential publisher wants an estimate of how many words the
completed ms. will be. Assuming a <normal> (as Natalie uses the
word) textbook length ms., how many words will it be?
I think we (I have a co-author) will produce a ms. of 300-350 pages.

>Bethany

Around 80,000, methinks.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 14:03:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24046
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 14:03:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001207D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:14:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 20:14:37 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6E04bQ08578 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:04:37 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6E04bUh005099 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:04:37 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207132002500.10420-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:04:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: how long is a book?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D303319.30972.38B5A49@localhost>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Michael E. Macmillan wrote:

>Depends on whether you use a lot of big lawyer words or mostly small words that I can understand. Assuming normal
>margins and type size that's not tiny, use a guideline of 250 to 275 words per page. Three hundred pages would work out
>to somewhere about 75,000 to 80,000 words.

Thanks. Because of the topic, we will have to use some big words. But we
will use small words to explain them. The book is a textbook for language
and law courses.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 14:14:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24070
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 14:14:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB46BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:19:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 20:25:19 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6E0FJQ09298 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:15:19 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6E0FIUh006610 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:15:19 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207132014550.10420-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:15:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: how long is a book?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE16R1TH8GsFTWPdjnu0000b6a9@hotmail.com>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Amy Burns Short wrote:

>Around 80,000, methinks.

Ah, agreement - I like that. Thanks.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 15:05:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24237
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 15:05:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB47D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:10:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 21:16:06 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6E1G6Q13241 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:16:06 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6E1G5Qs027435 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:16:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <8c.192bd327.2a2d5dc7@aol.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020713181521.00a4ed40@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:16:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Hugz Theo
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3CFC28A2.60500@swbell.net>

Are the fires out yet?  Smoke near you at all?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 15:26:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24260
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 15:26:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB482C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:31:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 21:37:14 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe72.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.207]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6E1bEQ14413 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:37:14 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          13 Jul 2002 18:37:08 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.67]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2002 01:37:08.0594 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[F7A4DD20:01C22AD6]
Message-ID:  <OE723l1GM3h3vLgAusV00007092@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:38:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Traditional American Songs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

We have a number of internationals here for a few weeks for short-term
language and culture programs. I've been teaching students a simple song at
the end of class almost every day the past week. Examples: Home on the
Range; My Bonnie; Row, Row, Row Your Boat; etc. The students seem to love
it -- and in each class there are at least one or two good musicians and I
hear them playing and singing them on the piano in our lobby. What other
songs of this type do you remember singing -- in school or summer camp,
etc.?

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 15:53:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24324
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 15:53:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB48CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:58:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13180450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 22:04:01 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6E241Q16408 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 22:04:01 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ700CKGV2O6V@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:04:00 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <OE723l1GM3h3vLgAusV00007092@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D30DB8C.7040505@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:01:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Traditional American Songs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Michael row the boat ashore!
Do your tits hang low
You are my sunshine
I wish I were an Oscar Meyer Weiner
Banana song

I think the Sesame Street songs are now classics... Rubber
Ducky, People in your Neighborhood.

Probably not what you're looking for, but fun songs anyhow.





Amy Burns Short wrote:

> We have a number of internationals here for a few weeks for short-term
> language and culture programs. I've been teaching students a simple song at
> the end of class almost every day the past week. Examples: Home on the
> Range; My Bonnie; Row, Row, Row Your Boat; etc. The students seem to love
> it -- and in each class there are at least one or two good musicians and I
> hear them playing and singing them on the piano in our lobby. What other
> songs of this type do you remember singing -- in school or summer camp,
> etc.?
>
> AS
>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 16:56:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24376
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 16:56:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB4F69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:01:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13185321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 23:06:59 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6E36wQ21724 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          23:06:58 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6E36w465724 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          23:06:58 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEJLFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:05:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Traditional American Songs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE723l1GM3h3vLgAusV00007092@hotmail.com>

BINGO the dog song, On Top of Old Smokey (all covered with cheese)..., If I
Had a Hammer,

do a google search on campfire songs

Sandra

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU]On Behalf Of Amy Burns Short
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 6:39 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Traditional American Songs
>
>
> We have a number of internationals here for a few weeks for short-term
> language and culture programs. I've been teaching students a
> simple song at
> the end of class almost every day the past week. Examples: Home on the
> Range; My Bonnie; Row, Row, Row Your Boat; etc. The students seem to love
> it -- and in each class there are at least one or two good musicians and I
> hear them playing and singing them on the piano in our lobby. What other
> songs of this type do you remember singing -- in school or summer camp,
> etc.?
>
> AS
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 17:02:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24392
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 17:02:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB500E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:07:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13185785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 23:13:16 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6E3DFQ22313 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:13:15 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6E3DC707948 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 22:13:12 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207132210080.6931-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 22:13:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From the Radiohead FAQ at http://www.pyramidsong.co.uk/

4.6.10. Headless Chickens, 'I Don't Want To Go To Woodstock'.

    Not strictly a collaboration per se, Headless Chickens were punk
    outfit in which Thom played guitar while studying at Exeter
    University.  This track was released on the now very rare
    Hometown Atrocities 7" EP (Hometown Atrocities Records 1989),
    available with 'Face' sleeve or limited edition (50-100 copies)
    'Disgrace to the Corpse of Kylie' sleeve.  Recently re-released on
    the CD compilation "Year Zero - The Exeter Punk Scene 1977-2000"
    on the same label.    [paul@hopwood.org.uk]

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 17:04:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24399
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 17:04:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB501B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:09:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13185832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 23:15:07 -0400
Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6E3F7Q22429 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:15:07 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.a1.2a3ce9a5 (3890) for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002
          23:14:58 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  7bit
Message-ID:  <a1.2a3ce9a5.2a6246b2@aol.com>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:14:58 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Just call me "Trapper John"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://www.bloggerheads.com/mash_quiz/


Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 17:45:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24458
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 17:45:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB50E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:50:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 23:56:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6E3uNQ24626 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:56:23 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0C13E8197; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 20:56:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714035623.0C13E8197@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:56:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Portobellos?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D30A6F7.8C04B5D7@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 13,
              2002  6:17:27 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Put them in a salad? Saute them with whatever meat you might do in a
> pan? But that is so little, why not just eat them?

These mushrooms are 4-5" in diameter. I wouldn't call that 'so little'.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 17:48:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24469
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 17:48:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB511E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:53:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 23:59:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6E3xRQ24890 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:59:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7281F83B4; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 20:59:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714035926.7281F83B4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:59:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D30AD5F.FDC5172C@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 13,
              2002  5:44:47 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > They are *er*'s. I have no idea. I will interrogate him more closely
> > when I see where the stains are.
>
> And exactly why were you assigned this task?

I wasn't 'assigned the task'. He asked me how to get them clean, and I
told him how in general, and told he could bring his clothes over and
I would advise him more specificall when I saw them.

The bloodstain is incredibly messy--he is a mess of scabs to start
with, and I watched him acquire another one tonight,  when he cut his
thumb on a sword.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 17:52:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24476
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 17:52:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00121348@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 0:03:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13187398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 00:03:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6E40fQ25301 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 00:00:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E44A783B2; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 21:00:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714040040.E44A783B2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:00:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D30B1AA.2E7D0CF9@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 13,
              2002  6: 3: 6 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> I don't know what lounge coffee is.  Nor do I know what a faculty lounge
> is.  Wait -- I do remember "the teachers' lounge" from when I taught
> high school many years ago.  It was a place for teachers to go sit
> around and that students weren't allowed in.  Whether coffee was
> involved, I don't remember.  I know of no such places at MSU, though.

Doesn't your dept have coffee?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 17:53:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24483
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 17:53:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012136F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 0:03:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13187907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 00:03:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6E420Q25711 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 00:02:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8E9FE83B7; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 21:01:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714040159.8E9FE83B7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:01:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D30B31B.B68CF1BB@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 13,
              2002  6: 9:15 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> That looks somehow starkly selfish, but I think
> that for most people happiness and contentment come only when helping
> others living beings is involved in their lives.

Are you being sarcastic?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 18:01:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24496
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 18:01:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB53A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 0:07:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13188515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 00:12:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6E4CjQ26771 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 00:12:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 33C1B83B9; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 21:12:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714041244.33C1B83B9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:12:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Portobellos?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020713174354.00b4cdb8@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 13, 2002  5:46: 5 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> That's good.  Another possibility---chop and saute the 'rooms with
> vermouth, garlic, shallots, and herbs, and use to stuff a small pork loin
> or a couple of double-thick pork chops.

Oooh, sounds good!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 18:08:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24504
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 18:08:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB53E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 0:14:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13188734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 00:19:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6E4JnQ27285 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 00:19:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2ABD083C5; Sat, 13
          Jul 2002 21:19:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714041949.2ABD083C5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:19:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      2nd bd party report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Only one bd cake this time--very good. From a local bakery, Sweetish
Hill. Lots of food. *er* brought another salmon; with a cold dill
sauce, it was divine. I brought Marie's blueberry pie, and it got rave
reviews. This very skinny guy I met at the last party wolfed down a
huge piece; I could hardly believe it!

Marie, I understand your point about the berries, but I disagree that
you should cook any more of them. I boiled the hell out of 1/4 of
them, and made sure that the rest of them were well coated with the
gunk, and that really was enough to soften them up. IOW, I wouldn't
change a thing, and I would make it as often as feasible.:) I served
it with 1905 Vanilla ice cream instead of whipped cream.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun  7 19:50:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA24673
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 7 Jun 1960 19:50:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012174F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 2:01:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13191501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 02:01:38 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6E61cQ01519 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 02:01:38 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6E61bb15141 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          01:01:37 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <OE723l1GM3h3vLgAusV00007092@hotmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <005701c22afc$1d347ee0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 01:03:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Traditional American Songs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> We have a number of internationals here for a few weeks for short-term
> language and culture programs. I've been teaching students a simple
song at
> the end of class almost every day the past week. Examples: Home on the
> Range; My Bonnie; Row, Row, Row Your Boat; etc. The students seem to
love
> it -- and in each class there are at least one or two good musicians
and I
> hear them playing and singing them on the piano in our lobby. What
other
> songs of this type do you remember singing -- in school or summer
camp,
> etc.?
>
> AS

This Little Light of Mine
I've Been Working on the Railroad
Roll Out the Barrel
You Are My Sunshine

            - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 01:48:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA25210
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 01:48:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB5AFF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 7:53:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13159652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 07:58:43 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EBwhQ20493 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 07:58:43 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws55-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.55]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EBweq15039
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 06:58:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020714040040.E44A783B2@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D31676C.27C07D96@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 06:58:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Doesn't your dept have coffee?

No.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 01:49:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA25217
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 01:49:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB5B03@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 7:54:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13159667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 07:59:51 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EBxpQ20537 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 07:59:51 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws55-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.55]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EBxmq15169
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 06:59:48 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020714040159.8E9FE83B7@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3167B0.FA230610@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 06:59:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > That looks somehow starkly selfish, but I think
> > that for most people happiness and contentment come only when helping
> > others living beings is involved in their lives.
>
> Are you being sarcastic?

??  No.  What seems sarcastic about it?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 03:33:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26736
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 03:33:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00122364@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 9:44:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13160929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 09:44:01 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EDi0Q25231 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 09:44:00 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6EDhxQs026908 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 06:43:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D30B31B.B68CF1BB@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020714064129.00a2f5d0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 06:44:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714040159.8E9FE83B7@yellow.rahul.net>

At 09:01 PM 7/13/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Natalie Maynor said:
> > That looks somehow starkly selfish, but I think
> > that for most people happiness and contentment come only when helping
> > others living beings is involved in their lives.
>
>Are you being sarcastic?

I can't tell.  All I wanted was the meaning of life and all I get is
sarcasm.  Maybe she will come up with a better answer this morning.

I think we are going to take our BatFest photos today to send to Pete. It's
a bad hair day though but my toes are polished.  My fingernails are never
polished. I'm too hard on my hands and always chip.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 03:59:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26756
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 03:58:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB5D3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 10:04:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13161568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 10:09:39 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EE9dQ27113 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:09:39 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws88-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.88]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EE9bq06038
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 09:09:37 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D30B31B.B68CF1BB@maynor.net>
            <4.2.2.20020714064129.00a2f5d0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D31861D.107E15E1@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 09:09:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:
> > > That looks somehow starkly selfish, but I think
> > > that for most people happiness and contentment come only when helping
> > > others living beings is involved in their lives.
> >
> >Are you being sarcastic?
>
> I can't tell.  All I wanted was the meaning of life and all I get is
> sarcasm.  Maybe she will come up with a better answer this morning.

I don't understand where y'all are seeing sarcasm.  My answer is the
same this morning as it was last night, but I didn't remember the
question as being about "the meaning of life."  I thought it was "[since
coffee isn't the most important thing in life,] what is?"  My answer
last night and this morning is "being happy and content."  I guess one
of those terms would do instead of needing both.  Although they're not
exactly synonyms, they're closely related enough that either would have
done.  Contentment is easier to define than happiness, so it's probably
the better choice.

The only reason I added that last sentence is that in looking at what I
had written, I thought it sounded kind of like wanting to live one's
life in The Bower of Bliss, eating, drinking, being merry all the time.
That wasn't really what I meant.  I think to be really content in life
most people need to have something other than eating, drinking, and
being merry involved.

None of the above is about "the meaning of life," btw.  I'm confident
that wasn't the question you asked last night.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 04:02:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA26773
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 04:02:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012243C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 10:12:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13161594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 10:12:53 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EECqQ27261 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:12:52 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6EECpQs025218 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 07:12:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D30B31B.B68CF1BB@maynor.net>
            <4.2.2.20020714064129.00a2f5d0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020714071145.00a26f00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 07:12:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D31861D.107E15E1@maynor.net>

At 09:09 AM 7/14/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
> > > > That looks somehow starkly selfish, but I think
> > > > that for most people happiness and contentment come only when helping
> > > > others living beings is involved in their lives.
> > >
> > >Are you being sarcastic?
> >
> > I can't tell.  All I wanted was the meaning of life and all I get is
> > sarcasm.  Maybe she will come up with a better answer this morning.
>
>I don't understand where y'all are seeing sarcasm.  My answer is the
>same this morning as it was last night, but I didn't remember the
>question as being about "the meaning of life."  I thought it was "[since
>coffee isn't the most important thing in life,] what is?"  My answer
>last night and this morning is "being happy and content."  I guess one
>of those terms would do instead of needing both.  Although they're not
>exactly synonyms, they're closely related enough that either would have
>done.  Contentment is easier to define than happiness, so it's probably
>the better choice.
>
>The only reason I added that last sentence is that in looking at what I
>had written, I thought it sounded kind of like wanting to live one's
>life in The Bower of Bliss, eating, drinking, being merry all the time.
>That wasn't really what I meant.  I think to be really content in life
>most people need to have something other than eating, drinking, and
>being merry involved.
>
>None of the above is about "the meaning of life," btw.  I'm confident
>that wasn't the question you asked last night.

It wasn't. So, what is life?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 04:21:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA26799
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 04:21:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB5D90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 10:26:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13161846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 10:31:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EEVjQ28262 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:31:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7C3DB7D08; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 07:31:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714143144.7C3DB7D08@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 07:31:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3167B0.FA230610@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 14,
              2002  6:59:44 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > That looks somehow starkly selfish, but I think
> > > that for most people happiness and contentment come only when helping
> > > others living beings is involved in their lives.
> >
> > Are you being sarcastic?
>
> ??  No.  What seems sarcastic about it?

Since you don't ask for help, but you believe that happiness and
contentment come when helping others, you deliberately deny others
happiness and contentment. Seems pretty selfish to me.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 04:33:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA26816
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 04:33:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00122524@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 10:44:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13162053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 10:44:13 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EEiDQ28951 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:44:13 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-141.panax.com
          [65.114.190.141]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6EEiBj16424 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          10:44:11 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D30B31B.B68CF1BB@maynor.net>
            <4.2.2.20020714064129.00a2f5d0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714104039.00a06a50@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:42:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D31861D.107E15E1@maynor.net>

>I don't understand where y'all are seeing sarcasm.  My answer is the
>same this morning as it was last night, but I didn't remember the
>question as being about "the meaning of life."  I thought it was "[since
>coffee isn't the most important thing in life,] what is?"  My answer
>last night and this morning is "being happy and content."  I guess one
>of those terms would do instead of needing both.  Although they're not
>exactly synonyms, they're closely related enough that either would have
>done.  Contentment is easier to define than happiness, so it's probably
>the better choice.      -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

I don't see your answer as sarcasm.  But I do think it rather begs the
question.  One would want to ask the further question "what is the single
most important thing that makes a person happy and content, given that it
is not good coffee."


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 04:47:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA28694
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 04:47:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB5E25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 10:52:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13162291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 10:57:39 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EEvdQ29696 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:57:39 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust6.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.8]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005223115@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 10:57:39 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE723l1GM3h3vLgAusV00007092@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3191CD.31F2F7D@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:59:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Traditional American Songs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:in school or summer camp,
> etc.?
>
The worms crawl in
The worms crawl out
The worms play pinochle
On Your Snout

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 04:57:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA01476
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 04:57:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB5E72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 11:02:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13162558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:07:49 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EF7mQ30516 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:07:48 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws133-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.133]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EF7kq15160
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:07:46 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D30B31B.B68CF1BB@maynor.net>
            <4.2.2.20020714064129.00a2f5d0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020714071145.00a26f00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3193BE.B4893B@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:07:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> >None of the above is about "the meaning of life," btw.  I'm confident
> >that wasn't the question you asked last night.
>
> It wasn't. So, what is life?

I have no idea.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 04:59:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02477
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 04:59:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB5E83@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 11:04:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13162618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:10:07 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EFA7Q30723 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:10:07 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws133-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.133]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EFA4q15567
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:10:05 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020714143144.7C3DB7D08@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D319449.1111A7AA@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:10:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Since you don't ask for help, but you believe that happiness and
> contentment come when helping others, you deliberately deny others
> happiness and contentment. Seems pretty selfish to me.

Everything in life is probably selfish in one way or another, but your
logic here is absurd.  I said nothing about being made content/happy by
having people ASK for help.  (Nor did I limit what I said to people, of
course.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 05:01:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03692
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 05:01:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00122609@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 11:11:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13162637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:11:53 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EFBrQ30792 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:11:53 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws133-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.133]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EFBoq15873
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:11:51 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D30B31B.B68CF1BB@maynor.net>
            <4.2.2.20020714064129.00a2f5d0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714104039.00a06a50@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3194B3.145E7899@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:11:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> I don't see your answer as sarcasm.  But I do think it rather begs the
> question.  One would want to ask the further question "what is the single
> most important thing that makes a person happy and content, given that it
> is not good coffee."

How is that begging the question?  It's a general answer, I agree, but I
see nothing circular in it.

As for the answer to your more specific question, I don't think there is
one.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 05:01:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03724
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 05:01:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB5E8A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 11:06:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13162642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:11:56 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EFBuQ30801 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:11:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9997084DD; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 08:11:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714151155.9997084DD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 08:11:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D319449.1111A7AA@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 14,
              2002 10:10: 1 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Since you don't ask for help, but you believe that happiness and
> > contentment come when helping others, you deliberately deny others
> > happiness and contentment. Seems pretty selfish to me.
>
> Everything in life is probably selfish in one way or another, but your
> logic here is absurd.  I said nothing about being made content/happy by
> having people ASK for help.  (Nor did I limit what I said to people, of
> course.)

Unless one lives surrounded by saints, one will have to ask for help
in order to get it sooner or later.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 05:06:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07521
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 05:06:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB5E98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 11:11:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13162672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:16:50 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EFGoQ31065 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:16:50 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws133-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.133]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EFGlq16593
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:16:48 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020714151155.9997084DD@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3195DC.8B5BE65C@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:16:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Unless one lives surrounded by saints, one will have to ask for help
> in order to get it sooner or later.

You're uncarting the horse or some such here.  When I was talking about
helping other living beings, I had in mind things like making sure the
dogs' water bowls were full of fresh water, giving money/goods/time to
organizations that help the needy, etc. etc.  The dogs have never asked
me for help at all, except possibly that time Spencer started yelping
because a piece of garden fencing stuff was stuck in his paw.  I would
probably holler if I fell into a manhole or something, hoping somebody
would hear me.  I would not ask for help if I could take care of the
situation alone.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 05:10:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA10994
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 05:10:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB5EAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 11:16:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13162746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:21:36 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EFLaQ31335 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:21:36 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws133-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.133]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EFLXq17434
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:21:34 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3196FA.D0DD4026@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:21:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      186 Retired
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

According to an article in today's paper, the retirement-incentive offer
turned out the way it was hoped to turn out:
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=4733494&BRD=2022&PAG=461&dept_id=335911&rfi=6
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 05:23:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15138
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 05:23:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB5EE6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 11:28:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13162918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:34:04 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EFY4Q31925 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:34:04 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust6.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.8]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005223592@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:34:03 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020714035926.7281F83B4@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D319A55.DD279929@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:35:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> The bloodstain is incredibly messy--he is a mess of scabs to start
> with, and I watched him acquire another one tonight,  when he cut his
> thumb on a sword.

This "foreign-land" person sounds passing strange to me. Bernardo?
Fernando?

alyce
>
> Karen


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 05:42:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15182
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 05:42:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB5F6A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 11:47:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13163396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:52:59 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EFqxQ00811 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:52:59 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust6.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.8]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005223767@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:52:59 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020714151155.9997084DD@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D3195DC.8B5BE65C@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D319EC5.42066E8F@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:54:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>I would
> probably holler if I fell into a manhole or something, hoping somebody
> would hear me.

I did, and Eddie Bracken heard me, rescued me, and rushed me to the
emergency room. Got blood all over his rental car, too. And delayed the
curtain raising.
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 06:29:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15312
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 06:29:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6076@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 12:34:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13164362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 12:40:16 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EGeGQ03824 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:40:16 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6EGeFb12060 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          11:40:15 -0500 (CDT)
References: <20020714151155.9997084DD@yellow.rahul.net>           
            <3D3195DC.8B5BE65C@maynor.net>  <3D319EC5.42066E8F@valstar.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <002201c22b55$556e4620$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:41:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Natalie Maynor wrote:
> >I would
> > probably holler if I fell into a manhole or something, hoping
somebody
> > would hear me.
>
> I did, and Eddie Bracken heard me, rescued me, and rushed me to the
> emergency room. Got blood all over his rental car, too. And delayed
the
> curtain raising.
> alyce

Eddie Bracken was like that.

Karen wants to know how they got the
blood out of the upholstery.

                - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 06:33:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15325
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 06:33:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001228AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 12:43:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13164433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 12:43:45 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EGhjQ03994 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:43:45 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust6.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.8]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003918602@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 12:43:45 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020714151155.9997084DD@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D3195DC.8B5BE65C@maynor.net>  <3D319EC5.42066E8F@valstar.net>
            <002201c22b55$556e4620$360332d1@0018079268>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D31AAAA.20CADCC@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:45:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:
> Karen wants to know how they got the
> blood out of the upholstery.

I don't know that they did and I don't know if Eddie was charged for the
damage to the car or what. I was in such pain that details of that sort
eluded me.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 06:42:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15364
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 06:42:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB60BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 12:47:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13164620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 12:53:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EGrIQ04597 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:53:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7663B8526; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 09:53:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714165316.7663B8526@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 09:53:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D319A55.DD279929@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 14,
              2002 11:35:49 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > The bloodstain is incredibly messy--he is a mess of scabs to start
> > with, and I watched him acquire another one tonight,  when he cut his
> > thumb on a sword.
>
> This "foreign-land" person sounds passing strange to me.

He works in his yard a lot--he wants it to be perfect. This particular
incident was an argument with a rosebush. I feel his pain, because I,
too, have been a mass of scabs from time to time.

> Bernardo?
> Fernando?

Nope.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 06:44:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15378
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 06:44:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012291A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 12:54:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13164652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 12:54:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EGsdQ04663 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:54:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 57C548527; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 09:54:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714165438.57C548527@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 09:54:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D31AAAA.20CADCC@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 14,
              2002 12:45:30 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Doris Markland wrote:
> > Karen wants to know how they got the
> > blood out of the upholstery.
>
> I don't know that they did and I don't know if Eddie was charged for the
> damage to the car or what. I was in such pain that details of that sort
> eluded me.

In any case, I have limits. I showed *er* my method, it's his job to
implement it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 06:55:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15417
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 06:55:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB611D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 13:00:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13164928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 13:05:44 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EH5hQ05401 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:05:43 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6EHAWk16373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:10:32
          +0200
References: <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net> <20020712145450.A91935@pobox.com>
            <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net> <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020712202950.00b794d8@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714191031.A16331@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:10:31 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020712202950.00b794d8@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 08:33:09PM -0400

=
= Indeed.  The occasional true "generalist" can be a treasure, but the
= dilettantes billing their respective acts as generalists should have been
= drowned while still children.
=
= cwv

Help!  How do I know which one I am?  Or am I just much more of a
dilettante when I'm depressed?

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 07:07:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15481
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 07:07:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB617D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 13:12:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 13:18:07 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EHI7Q06199 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:18:07 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6EHI6b08207 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          12:18:07 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020714165316.7663B8526@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000801c22b5a$9f168760$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:19:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> > Bernardo?
> > Fernando?
>
> Nope.
>
> Karen


Mervin?
Nerd?

     - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 07:14:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15490
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 07:14:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00122A6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 13:25:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 13:25:08 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EHP8Q06528 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:25:08 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6EHTvg16395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:29:57
          +0200
References: <3D31AAAA.20CADCC@valstar.net>
            <20020714165438.57C548527@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714192956.B16331@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:29:56 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714165438.57C548527@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 09:54:38AM -0700

=
= I showed *er* my method

Herb.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 07:28:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15506
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 07:28:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00122B0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 13:38:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 13:38:48 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f69.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.69]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EHSlQ06923 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:28:47 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          14 Jul 2002 10:28:42 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:28:41 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2002 17:28:42.0356 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[E62D9340:01C22B5B]
Message-ID:  <F69AKsats0SfGDlJZHY0000c217@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:28:41 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann:

> > Oh yes, oh yes!  I remember revealing very, very hesitantly that I have
> > cried during tv commercials many times.  Considering that I've always
> > been alone on those occasions, I'm not quite sure how Rashmi can
> > conclude that my tears are fake.

>I don't believe Rashmi -did- conclude that, do you?

Apparently the word public is not widely understood.

This thread has assured my immortality on Words-L. Every time
Natalie posts about tears, my name will be invoked!

-rashmi


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 07:29:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15513
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 07:29:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB61D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 13:34:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 13:40:05 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EHU5Q07049 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:30:05 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769756A19 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:30:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6EHU5N49148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:30:05
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net> <20020712145450.A91935@pobox.com>
            <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net> <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020712202950.00b794d8@mail.panax.com>
            <20020714191031.A16331@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714123005.A48878@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:30:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714191031.A16331@yoccoz.multinix.com>; from
              stevie@MULTINIX.COM on Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 07:10:31PM +0200

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 07:10:31PM +0200, steph wrote:
> = Indeed.  The occasional true "generalist" can be a treasure, but the
> = dilettantes billing their respective acts as generalists should have
> = been drowned while still children.
>
> Help!  How do I know which one I am?  Or am I just much more of a
> dilettante when I'm depressed?

Steph--Dr Voigtlander is ranting about some 30 year old situation
which has nothing to do with you or me. Please ignore him. We all
learned our jobs on the job, and I haven't heard anybody billing
their acts as generalists. I suggest you stop this line of analysis
ASAP.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 07:30:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15517
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 07:30:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB61D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 13:35:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 13:40:35 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f92.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.92]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EHUZQ07066 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:30:35 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          14 Jul 2002 10:30:30 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:30:29 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2002 17:30:30.0089 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[26645390:01C22B5C]
Message-ID:  <F92KuKB8BL4jSiUdtEA0000c1cd@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:30:29 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie:
>But what if BB and I were on tv?  Would you assume that our teariness
>was fake just because we happened to be famous?  Iow, can tearable
>people like us not by chance end up in <high position>?

I have certain expectations of people in high positions. They
didn't get there overnight. There's a period of training, of
being groomed for the position when one learns how to behave
in public. I expect public figures to have learned not to let
it all hang out. (There are exceptions, of course.)

We have different criteria for evaluating authentic and sincere.
Is this such a surprise? It happens. Your assessment of an outfit
as whorish was not shared by others. We happen to have different notions of
sincere.

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 07:30:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15526
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 07:30:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB61D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 13:35:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 13:40:56 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EHUuQ07096 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:30:56 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E61075A7 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:30:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6EHUuN49162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:30:56
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714123056.B48878@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:30:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 10:05:59PM -0700

On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 10:05:59PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> Tushar Samant said:
> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 07:53:02PM -0400, alyce cresap wrote:
> > > Tushar Samant wrote:
> > > > the suffering, lasted almost 18 months or so ...
> > >
> > > I am glad that everyone is working or in school. Perhaps this is a good
> > > sign for everyone.
> >
> > #1 good thing about it is we won't have giftless "generalists" doing
> > vaguely defined jobs.
>
> HEY! I resemble that remark.

No, you don't. Perhaps nobody knows what I am talking about.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 07:42:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15537
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 07:42:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB623C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 13:47:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 13:53:04 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EHr4Q08611 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:53:04 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6EHr3W1021027 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:53:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020714165438.57C548527@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D31AAAA.20CADCC@valstar.net>
            <20020714165438.57C548527@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020714105253.00a4d630@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:53:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714192956.B16331@yoccoz.multinix.com>

At 07:29 PM 7/14/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>=
>= I showed *er* my method
>
>Herb.

Bert.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 07:43:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15544
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 07:43:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00122C05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 13:53:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 13:53:43 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EHrgQ08647 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:53:42 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6EHrfW1021785 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:53:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020714105324.00a26360@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:53:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F69AKsats0SfGDlJZHY0000c217@hotmail.com>

At 05:28 PM 7/14/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>Ann:
>
>> > Oh yes, oh yes!  I remember revealing very, very hesitantly that I have
>> > cried during tv commercials many times.  Considering that I've always
>> > been alone on those occasions, I'm not quite sure how Rashmi can
>> > conclude that my tears are fake.
>
>>I don't believe Rashmi -did- conclude that, do you?
>
>Apparently the word public is not widely understood.
>
>This thread has assured my immortality on Words-L. Every time
>Natalie posts about tears, my name will be invoked!

And we will smile.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 07:44:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15553
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 07:44:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6248@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 13:49:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 13:54:39 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EHscQ08698 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:54:38 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6EHsbW1022604 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:54:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020714191031.A16331@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net> <20020712145450.A91935@pobox.com>
            <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net> <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020712202950.00b794d8@mail.panax.com>
            <20020714191031.A16331@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020714105412.00a542e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:54:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714123005.A48878@pobox.com>

At 12:30 PM 7/14/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 07:10:31PM +0200, steph wrote:
> > = Indeed.  The occasional true "generalist" can be a treasure, but the
> > = dilettantes billing their respective acts as generalists should have
> > = been drowned while still children.
> >
> > Help!  How do I know which one I am?  Or am I just much more of a
> > dilettante when I'm depressed?
>
>Steph--Dr Voigtlander is ranting about some 30 year old situation
>which has nothing to do with you or me. Please ignore him. We all
>learned our jobs on the job, and I haven't heard anybody billing
>their acts as generalists. I suggest you stop this line of analysis
>ASAP.

And you're not fat either. Quit taking things personally. You are cute!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:06:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15575
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:06:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB62E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:11:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:17:18 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f143.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.143]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EI7IQ10031 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:07:18 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          14 Jul 2002 11:07:12 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:07:12 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2002 18:07:12.0685 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[473DCDD0:01C22B61]
Message-ID:  <F143H589SfBkHqzX5Yr0000c100@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:07:12 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Yikes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The book I picked up yesterday (at the library) was written by
someone born in 1977!!!!

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:06:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15582
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:06:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB62E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:11:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:17:31 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIHUQ10733 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:17:30 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6EIHSm05255 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:17:28 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207141317040.5053-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:17:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020714105253.00a4d630@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

> >Herb.
>
> Bert.

Scooter.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:08:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15586
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:08:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00122D29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:18:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:18:35 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIIZQ10788 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:18:35 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-73.panax.com
          [65.114.190.73]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6EIIXj10220 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          14:18:33 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140129.00b48eb0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:01:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714123056.B48878@pobox.com>

At 12:30 PM 7/14/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:

>No, you don't. Perhaps nobody knows what I am talking about.

Then try writing more clearly.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:08:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15590
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:08:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB62F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:13:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:18:36 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIIaQ10796 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:18:36 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-73.panax.com
          [65.114.190.73]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6EIIZj10226 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          14:18:35 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020712202950.00b794d8@mail.panax.com>
            <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net> <20020712145450.A91935@pobox.com>
            <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net> <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020712202950.00b794d8@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140300.00b51410@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:18:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714191031.A16331@yoccoz.multinix.com>

At 07:10 PM 7/14/2002 +0200, steph wrote:

>Help!  How do I know which one I am?

Is it possible that you are neither?  My impression of you is that you are
a good technical person whose latest flyer into supervision or management
wasn't all that successful/enjoyable.  There is an old adage (probably
invented before Tushar's birth, which means he will grant it no credence)
that excellence in technical/staff work will increasingly and incorrectly
be viewed as managerial aptitude.

In my career, I met only a half-dozen or so who were true generalists.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:08:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15594
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:08:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB62FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:13:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:19:21 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIJKQ10845 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:19:20 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6EIJH205302 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:19:17 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207141318400.5053-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:19:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Yikes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F143H589SfBkHqzX5Yr0000c100@hotmail.com>

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Rashmi Murthy wrote:

> The book I picked up yesterday (at the library) was written by
> someone born in 1977!!!!

Just be glad it wasn't titled "Memoirs of an Aging Geisha" or "Over the
Hill:  a personal story."

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:09:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15598
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:09:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00122D3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:20:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:20:26 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe51.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.40]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIKPQ10998 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:20:26 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          14 Jul 2002 11:20:20 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2002 18:20:20.0517 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[1CD36D50:01C22B63]
Message-ID:  <OE51LBf6AlxHqyijn390000bb1b@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:21:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I will be expecting some visiting relatives and other guests in the next
week or so. Would you be so kind as to share some of your favorate "finger
foods" and preparation methods?

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:10:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15602
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:10:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6309@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:15:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:20:58 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIKwQ11049 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:20:58 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws230-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.230]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EIKuq22880
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:20:56 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F92KuKB8BL4jSiUdtEA0000c1cd@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D31C104.114DB1F2@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:20:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rashmi Murthy wrote:
>
> Natalie:
> >But what if BB and I were on tv?  Would you assume that our teariness
> >was fake just because we happened to be famous?  Iow, can tearable
> >people like us not by chance end up in <high position>?
>
> I have certain expectations of people in high positions. They
> didn't get there overnight. There's a period of training, of
> being groomed for the position when one learns how to behave
> in public. I expect public figures to have learned not to let
> it all hang out. (There are exceptions, of course.)

Actually, I bet tearable people in most cases can't end up in high
positions.  It may be possible in some cases to train it out, but I'm
not convinced that such training would always <take>.  So what you said
here made me answer by own question.  You're not likely to see the
BB/Natalie ticket in '04.

> We have different criteria for evaluating authentic and sincere.
> Is this such a surprise? It happens. Your assessment of an outfit
> as whorish was not shared by others. We happen to have different notions of
> sincere.

I don't see deciding whether certain attire looks whorish as being
similar to
judging authenticity/sincerity.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:12:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15606
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:12:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6318@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:17:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:23:20 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EINJQ11313 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:23:19 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6EINIni015852 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:23:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020714112231.00a59c20@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:23:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE51LBf6AlxHqyijn390000bb1b@hotmail.com>

At 01:21 PM 7/14/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>I will be expecting some visiting relatives and other guests in the next
>week or so. Would you be so kind as to share some of your favorate "finger
>foods" and preparation methods?

Go back to the archives and use the same thing you packed in Carl's lunchbox.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:15:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15626
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:15:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6328@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:20:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:26:21 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIQLQ11484 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:26:21 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws230-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.230]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EIQJq23892
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:26:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE51LBf6AlxHqyijn390000bb1b@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D31C247.F5E155F0@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:26:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Curry Chicken Balls

1/4 pound cream cheese, softened        1 TBS chopped chutney
2 TBS mayonnaise                        1/2 tsp salt
1 cup chopped cooked chicken            1 cup blanched slivered almonds
1 TBS curry powder                      1/2 cup grated coconut, or more

Mash cream cheese.  Add mayonnaise, chicken, curry, chutney, salt and
almonds.  Mix well and roll into walnut size balls.  Roll in coconut.
Chill.  May be prepared a day in advance.  Freezes well.  Makes 3 dozen
balls.
    Mrs. Eleanore H. Collums
   (from p. 19 of _Southern Sideboards_)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:17:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15630
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:17:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB632F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:22:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:27:45 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe72.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.207]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIRiQ11575 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:27:45 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          14 Jul 2002 11:27:39 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2002 18:27:39.0550 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[22828BE0:01C22B64]
Message-ID:  <OE72r8cU6xfPTeip68V000075b0@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:29:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Go back to the archives and use the same thing you packed in Carl's
lunchbox.

>Betty

No! Although all were great suggestions, this calls for something different.
Boo's suggestion of a goat's head would probably come nearest to what I am
now seeking. :). I mean, it's not like I don't have plenty of cookbooks to
search either. What I seek is the tried and true -- the yummy and decadent.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:17:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15634
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:17:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6330@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:22:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:28:06 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIS6Q11607 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:28:06 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws230-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.230]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EIS3q24194
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:28:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE51LBf6AlxHqyijn390000bb1b@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D31C29E.45923CE9@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:27:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

     Cheese-Bacon Crispies

 1/2 cup butter, softened
 2 cups (8 oz.) shredded sharp Cheddar cheese
 1/4 tsp. salt
 1/4 tsp. dry mustard
 1 tsp. Worcestershire
 3 drops Tobasco
 1 1/4 cups all-purpose flour
 10 slices bacon, crumbled

 Combine first 6 ingredients in a large mixing bowl; mix well.  Stir in
 flour and bacon.  Shape dough into 2 rolls, 1 1/2" in diameter; wrap in
 waxed paper, and chill overnight.  Unwrap roll, and cut into 1/4"-thick
 slices.  Place slices on a lightly greased baking sheet; bake at 375
for
 8-10 minutes or until lightly browned.  Cool on wire rack.

 To freeze before baking, place unbaked slices on baking sheets in
freezer
 until hard.  Remove from baking sheets; store in an airtight container
in
 freezer.  To serve, remove from freezer, place on lightly greased
baking
 sheets, and bake at 375 for 10-12 minutes or until lightly browned.

 To freeze after baking, let wafers cool completely on wire rack.
 Transfer to an airtight container and freeze.  To serve, thaw wafers at
 room temperature for 1 hour.

 Yield:  about 3 dozen (I usually double the recipe.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:18:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15638
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:18:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6334@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:23:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:29:15 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EITEQ11645 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:29:14 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws230-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.230]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EITCq24376
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:29:12 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE51LBf6AlxHqyijn390000bb1b@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D31C2D5.34498F10@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:28:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

 Crab Puffs

 1 (6-oz.) can crabmeat, drained & flaked
 1/2 cup shredded sharp Cheddar cheese
 3 green onions, chopped
 1 tsp dry mustard
 1 tsp Worcestershire sauce
 1 cup water
 1/2 cup butter or margarine
 1/4 teaspoon salt
 1 cup all-purpose flour
 4 eggs

  Combine first 5 ingredients, stirring well; set aside.
  Combine water, butter, and salt in a medium saucepan; bring
  mixture to a boil.  Reduce heat to low; add flour, and stir
  vigorously until mixture leaves sides of pan and forms a
  smooth ball.  Remove saucepan from heat, and allow mixture
  to cool slightly.  Add eggs, one at a time, beating with a
  wooden spoon after each addition; beat until batter is
  smooth.  Add crab mixture; stir well.  Drop batter by
  heaping teaspoonfuls onto ungreased baking sheets.  Bake at
  400 for 15 minutes; reduce heat to 350, and bake an
  additional 10 minutes.  Serve puffs warm.
  TO FREEZE BEFORE BAKING, cover baking sheets with foil
  before dropping batter onto them.  Place unbaked puffs on
  baking sheets in freezer until hard.  Remove from baking
  sheets, and store in air-tight container in freezer.  To
  serve, remove from freezer and bake, unthawed, at 375 for
  35 minutes.
  TO FREEZE AFTER BAKING, place crab puffs in an airtight
  container in freezer.  To serve, remove from freezer, let
  thaw completely, and bake at 350 for 8-10 minutes.
  (I've always used the "freeze before baking" method.  I
   normally double the recipe.)



--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:19:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15642
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:19:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00122D89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:29:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:29:43 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIThQ11664 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:29:43 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws230-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.230]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EITfq24481
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:29:41 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE51LBf6AlxHqyijn390000bb1b@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D31C30A.BC7CEAFD@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:29:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

  Ham & Cheese Pinwheels

 1 cup Calif. Dip (made from Lipton's dry onion soup)
 1 pkg. (3-oz.) cream cheese, softened
 2 TBS chopped ripe olives
 6 slices cooked ham
 6 slices Swiss cheese

 In small bowl, blend Calif. dip with cream cheese & olives.
 Chill about 1 hour.  Spread mixture evenly on ham slices;
 top with cheese slices, then more dip mixture.  Roll up &
 wrap in waxed paper.  Chill at least 2 hours.  Cut each roll
 into 1/2" slices.
 (I normally double this recipe for a large party.  Doubling
  it also makes it easier to deal with the Calif. dip, since 1
  pkg. of soup makes 2 cups of dip.)


--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:19:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15646
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:19:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB633B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:24:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:30:27 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIURQ11736 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:30:27 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws230-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.230]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EIUOq24618
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:30:25 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE51LBf6AlxHqyijn390000bb1b@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D31C33D.BEB14E83@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:30:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Egg, Sour Cream, and Caviar Spread

 12 hard-boiled eggs, finely chopped
 1/3 cup mayonnaise
 2 TBS diced green onions
 1/2 tsp salt
 1/8 tsp pepper
 4 drops Tobasco
 1/2 cup sour cream
 1 (2-oz) jar red caviar

 Combine first 6 ingredients; mix well.  Spoon into a serving
 bowl, spreading surface of mixture flat.  Spread with sour
 cream, and top with caviar.  Serve with crackers.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:20:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15650
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:20:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB633D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:25:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:31:01 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f157.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.157]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIL0Q11054 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:21:00 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          14 Jul 2002 11:20:55 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:20:55 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2002 18:20:55.0529 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[31B1D590:01C22B63]
Message-ID:  <F157hiyOHsR0GQJw4Y80000c07d@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:20:55 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >= I showed *er* my method

> >Herb.

>Bert.

Gerhard.

Derk. (?)


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:20:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15654
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:20:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB633E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:25:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:31:24 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe26.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.83]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIVOQ11782 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:31:24 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          14 Jul 2002 11:31:19 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2002 18:31:19.0108 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A5607040:01C22B64]
Message-ID:  <OE263SOlbpH71yEXUIE00007619@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:32:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie:

>Curry Chicken Balls

Thank you, Thank you -- this is the just the type of thing!

I will have some Yankee Burns relatives in the area for a funeral and also
want to have some students over, and may have some other friends dropping in
in the next couple of weeks.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:25:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15658
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:25:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB634F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:30:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:35:44 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe66.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.201]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIZiQ12178 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:35:44 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          14 Jul 2002 11:35:38 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2002 18:35:38.0705 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[401BCC10:01C22B65]
Message-ID:  <OE66447p9NBUL23sseO00005373@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:36:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Thanks for the rest as well. I especially like that some have the
make-ahead option.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:25:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15665
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:25:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6353@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:30:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:36:30 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIaUQ12295 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:36:30 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws230-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.230]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EIaQq25804
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:36:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE263SOlbpH71yEXUIE00007619@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D31C4A6.444AD62C@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:36:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:

> Thank you, Thank you -- this is the just the type of thing!

I thought I had more recipes on the computer, but I'm running into
things like "currupt file" messages.  Anyway, all those that I posted
are definitely tried and true.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:26:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15669
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:26:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6354@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:31:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:37:02 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIb2Q12383 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:37:02 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust130.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.132]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003919990@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:37:02 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F92KuKB8BL4jSiUdtEA0000c1cd@hotmail.com>
            <3D31C104.114DB1F2@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D31C535.AAC2E5EE@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:38:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Actually, I bet tearable people in most cases can't end up in high
> positions.

Clinton teared up frequently.

alyce


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:28:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15676
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:28:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB635D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:33:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:39:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EId9Q12591 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:39:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws230-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.230]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EId6q26385
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:39:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE66447p9NBUL23sseO00005373@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D31C545.713DCBB0@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:39:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:
>
> >Thanks for the rest as well. I especially like that some have the
> make-ahead option.

All of them can be made at least somewhat ahead -- some way ahead.  I
don't do any last-minute recipes for parties.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:36:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15685
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:36:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00122E32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:46:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:46:40 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIkeQ13229 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:46:40 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6EIkdni004911 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:46:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <OE51LBf6AlxHqyijn390000bb1b@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020714113931.00a5bd90@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:46:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D31C247.F5E155F0@maynor.net>

Cooter Pie (The Hunter's Delight)

First you take a life cooter and wait for him to stick his head out from
under his shell.  When he does, you grab it and whack it off. Take a
hatchet to the underside so you can get to the met and remove it along with
the liver, trip and eggs (if he has any?).  Set aside.

1/2 cup of chopped bacon        1 stewed tomato, chopped
2 medium onions,, chopped       1 tsp. of thyme
2 toes of garlic, crushed               1/4 cup of flower

Fry all above down until it's brown, then add the cooter and continue to
cook.  It's best in a black iron dutch oven.  Don't forget to salt an
pepper to your taste.

Brown the flour in an iron frying pan. Stir constantly to avoid burning.
But make sure you brown it good. Then add it to the cooter with enough
water to make it soupy.  Stew down til meat is falling off the bone and the
liquid is thick.

Now make biscuit dough and drop small-sized biscuits over the top of the
stew.  Stick it in a preheated oven at 400 degrees and bake done
(golden).  A hunter will come of the wood to get  this!

 From White Trashing Cooking by Ernest Matthew Mickler

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:38:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15692
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:38:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB63A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:43:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:48:50 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EImnQ13320 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:48:49 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6EImmni006866 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:48:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020714114821.00a5e2e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:48:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE263SOlbpH71yEXUIE00007619@hotmail.com>

At 01:32 PM 7/14/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Natalie:
>
> >Curry Chicken Balls
>
>Thank you, Thank you -- this is the just the type of thing!
>
>I will have some Yankee Burns relatives in the area for a funeral and also
>want to have some students over, and may have some other friends dropping in
>in the next couple of weeks.

Well then you may want to make the four-can deep tuna pie.  Do you already
have the recipe?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:38:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15699
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:38:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB63A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:43:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:49:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIn3Q13347 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:49:03 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8F1017E60; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:49:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714184902.8F1017E60@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:49:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000801c22b5a$9f168760$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 14, 2002 12:19:33 pm"

Doris Markland said:
> >
> > > Bernardo?
> > > Fernando?
> >
> > Nope.
> >
> > Karen
>
>
> Mervin?
> Nerd?

Nope.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:39:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15703
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:39:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB63A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:44:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:50:16 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIoGQ13427 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:50:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AF7EC7E2F; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:50:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714185015.AF7EC7E2F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:50:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714192956.B16331@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              14, 2002  7:29:56 pm"

steph said:
> =
> = I showed *er* my method
>
> Herb.

No.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:41:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15707
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:41:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB63AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:46:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:51:47 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe64.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.199]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIplQ13500 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:51:47 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          14 Jul 2002 11:51:41 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2002 18:51:41.0796 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[7E27D240:01C22B67]
Message-ID:  <OE64XSqVdusFY1R1ybS0000530e@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:53:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Mervin?
> Nerd?


>Nope.


>Karen

Rumplestiltskin?
Tom Tit-Tot?
John Jacob Jingleheimer Smith?
Giogios?

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:41:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15711
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:41:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB63B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:46:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:52:24 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIqOQ13593 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:52:24 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6EIqNb12853 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          13:52:24 -0500 (CDT)
References: <F92KuKB8BL4jSiUdtEA0000c1cd@hotmail.com>           
            <3D31C104.114DB1F2@maynor.net>  <3D31C535.AAC2E5EE@valstar.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <005d01c22b67$ca8f25c0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:53:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boo Hoo! Waaah!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >
> > Actually, I bet tearable people in most cases can't end up in high
> > positions.
>
> Clinton teared up frequently.
>
> alyce
>
>
That's because he was feeling someone's
pain.

                - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:43:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15715
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:43:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB63BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:48:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:54:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIsFQ13843 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:54:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 439837DFF; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:52:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714185211.439837DFF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:52:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714123056.B48878@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Jul 14,
              2002 12:30:56 pm"

Tushar Samant said:
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 10:05:59PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> > Tushar Samant said:
> > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 07:53:02PM -0400, alyce cresap wrote:
> > > > Tushar Samant wrote:
> > > > > the suffering, lasted almost 18 months or so ...
> > > >
> > > > I am glad that everyone is working or in school. Perhaps this is a good
> > > > sign for everyone.
> > >
> > > #1 good thing about it is we won't have giftless "generalists" doing
> > > vaguely defined jobs.
> >
> > HEY! I resemble that remark.
>
> No, you don't.

Whew. Thanks for the compliment!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:44:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15724
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:44:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB63BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:49:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:54:55 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIssQ13900 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:54:54 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 13AB6801F; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:54:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714185446.13AB6801F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:54:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020714105253.00a4d630@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 14, 2002 10:53: 5 am"

Betty said:
> At 07:29 PM 7/14/2002 +0200, you wrote:
> >=
> >= I showed *er* my method
> >
> >Herb.
>
> Bert.

No, but he could be.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:45:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15734
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:45:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB63C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:50:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:55:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EItoQ14015 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:55:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 063DE8576; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:55:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714185548.063DE8576@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:55:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Yikes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F143H589SfBkHqzX5Yr0000c100@hotmail.com> from Rashmi Murthy at
              "Jul 14, 2002  6: 7:12 pm"

Rashmi Murthy said:
> The book I picked up yesterday (at the library) was written by
> someone born in 1977!!!!

SHIT! Can someone who's still in 3rd grade write something
publishable???

Karen
feeling old

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:45:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15738
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:45:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00122E8C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:56:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:56:23 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIuNQ14039 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:56:23 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 52C77840A; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:56:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714185622.52C77840A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:56:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207141317040.5053-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 14, 2002  1:17:28 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
>
> > >Herb.
> >
> > Bert.
>
> Scooter.

Ick! I would never have a friend named Scooter.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:47:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15742
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:47:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB63D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:52:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:58:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIwVQ14181 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:58:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A72E87E60; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:58:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714185830.A72E87E60@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:58:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F157hiyOHsR0GQJw4Y80000c07d@hotmail.com> from Rashmi Murthy at
              "Jul 14, 2002  6:20:55 pm"

Rashmi Murthy said:
> > >= I showed *er* my method
>
> > >Herb.
>
> >Bert.
>
> Gerhard.
>
> Derk. (?)

Getting closer....

There's street named after him in Austin.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:49:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15746
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:49:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB63DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:54:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:59:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EIxoQ14237 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:59:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4BA878245; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 11:59:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714185949.4BA878245@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:59:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE64XSqVdusFY1R1ybS0000530e@hotmail.com> from Amy Burns Short at
              "Jul 14, 2002  1:53:13 pm"

Amy Burns Short said:
> Rumplestiltskin?
> Tom Tit-Tot?
> John Jacob Jingleheimer Smith?
> Giogios?

I think you need to read the directions again.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:51:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15754
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:51:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB63E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 14:56:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 15:01:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EJ1bQ14402 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:01:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CB8E97E2F; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 12:01:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714190136.CB8E97E2F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:01:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

*er* is after me to install Linux on my computer. What flavor do I
 want?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 08:57:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15765
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 08:57:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB641B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 15:02:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 15:07:56 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EJ7tQ14841 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:07:55 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6EJ7sni024001 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:07:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020714120745.00a64af0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:07:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714190136.CB8E97E2F@yellow.rahul.net>

At 12:01 PM 7/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>*er* is after me to install Linux on my computer. What flavor do I
>  want?

Vanilla

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 09:00:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15782
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 09:00:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6428@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 15:05:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 15:11:31 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f198.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.198]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EJ1VQ14392 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:01:31 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          14 Jul 2002 12:01:25 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:01:25 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2002 19:01:25.0868 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[DA4A22C0:01C22B68]
Message-ID:  <F198QpPJr0dyWpI9nCL000064da@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:01:25 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen:

>Getting closer....

Bernhard? like the golfer?

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 09:05:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15786
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 09:05:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6441@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 15:10:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 15:16:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EJGDQ15340 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:16:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 54B258514; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 12:16:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714191612.54B258514@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:16:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020714120745.00a64af0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 14, 2002 12: 7:57 pm"

Betty said:
> At 12:01 PM 7/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >*er* is after me to install Linux on my computer. What flavor do I
> >  want?
>
> Vanilla

Phhhbt.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 09:06:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15793
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 09:06:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6444@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 15:11:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 15:16:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EJGgQ15361 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:16:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D47B28464; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 12:16:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714191641.D47B28464@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:16:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F198QpPJr0dyWpI9nCL000064da@hotmail.com> from Rashmi Murthy at
              "Jul 14, 2002  7: 1:25 pm"

Rashmi Murthy said:
> Karen:
> >Getting closer....
>
> Bernhard? like the golfer?

No.

Clue: It doesn't begin with 'b'.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 09:11:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15800
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 09:11:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6469@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 15:16:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 15:22:29 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EJMTQ15855 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:22:29 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust130.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.132]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003920502@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 15:22:29 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F198QpPJr0dyWpI9nCL000064da@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D31CFDD.D9BD8E69@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:24:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rashmi Murthy wrote:
> >
> Bernhard? like the golfer?

Bernard, like le chien?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 09:12:45 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15807
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 09:12:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00122FA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 15:23:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 15:23:17 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EJNGQ15981 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:23:17 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6EJNFni006212 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:23:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <F198QpPJr0dyWpI9nCL000064da@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020714122237.00a606d0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:23:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714191641.D47B28464@yellow.rahul.net>

At 12:16 PM 7/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Rashmi Murthy said:
> > Karen:
> > >Getting closer....
> >
> > Bernhard? like the golfer?
>
>No.
>
>Clue: It doesn't begin with 'b'.

Vernon, Vern.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 09:13:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15811
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 09:13:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB647B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 15:18:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 15:23:37 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EJNbQ16029 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:23:37 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust130.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.132]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005226523@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 15:23:36 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020714191641.D47B28464@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D31D01F.2CA3A321@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:25:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Clue: It doesn't begin with 'b'.

Phooey, right after I'd guessed a B name. WIll you tell us if we get it?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 09:15:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15825
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 09:15:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB648E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 15:20:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13168012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 15:25:53 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EJPrQ16189 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:25:53 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust130.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.132]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003920546@mx0.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 15:25:53 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D31D0A8.780EBD6F@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:27:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I think it's Xavier.
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 10:14:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15861
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 10:14:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB65EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 16:19:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 16:25:15 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EKPEQ19967 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:25:14 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6EKU3g16809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:30:03
          +0200
References: <20020714190136.CB8E97E2F@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714223003.A16784@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:30:03 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714190136.CB8E97E2F@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 12:01:36PM -0700

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 12:01:36PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
= *er* is after me to install Linux on my computer. What flavor do I
=  want?
=
= Karen

Well, if you wanted it you would know which flavor.  Since he
wants you to do it you may as well go with the one he likes, as
otherwise anytime anything is broken and you ask the simplest
question about how to go about fixing it, he's going to say,
"Well, if you had just installed xxx, then I'd know right away,
but I really don't like the way they handle this in this distro,
and I've got to figure out what it is they've done, and in the
meantime I'll change these other things to work this way..."and
then your computer won't work.

(I'm making this up.  This is not how it works at my house.)

You can also poke your nose into the linuxchix mailing list.  I
haven't been following the tech lists for ages now, but this is
just the kind of question for there.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 10:19:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15891
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 10:19:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6615@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 16:24:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 16:30:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EKU4Q20356 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:30:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6672B8571; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 13:30:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714203003.6672B8571@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:30:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020714122237.00a606d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 14, 2002 12:23:17 pm"

Betty said:
> At 12:16 PM 7/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Rashmi Murthy said:
> > > Karen:
> > > >Getting closer....
> > >
> > > Bernhard? like the golfer?
> >
> >No.
> >
> >Clue: It doesn't begin with 'b'.
>
> Vernon, Vern.

Good guess! I have a friend whose husband and son are named this.

But no.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 10:20:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15899
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 10:20:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6616@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 16:25:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 16:30:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EKUoQ20363 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:30:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EA9D88546; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 13:30:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714203049.EA9D88546@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:30:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D31D01F.2CA3A321@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 14,
              2002  3:25:19 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Clue: It doesn't begin with 'b'.
>
> Phooey, right after I'd guessed a B name. WIll you tell us if we get it?

I haven't decided. I think probably not, because I call him *er* for a
reason.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 10:20:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15903
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 10:20:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012328D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 16:31:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 16:31:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EKVBQ20386 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:31:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 359018569; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 13:31:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714203111.359018569@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:31:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D31D0A8.780EBD6F@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 14,
              2002  3:27:36 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> I think it's Xavier.

I think he would like this to be his name, but no.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 10:28:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15907
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 10:28:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6644@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 16:33:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 16:38:47 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EKckQ20741 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:38:46 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 10A1E8574; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 13:38:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714203846.10A1E8574@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:38:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714223003.A16784@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              14, 2002 10:30: 3 pm"

steph said:
> Well, if you wanted it you would know which flavor.

I want it, but the last time I investigated it was several years
ago. This is the first step of my re-investigation.

> Since he
> wants you to do it you may as well go with the one he likes,

I don't know what kind he likes. He didn't tell me, and he went out of
town for the day. In any case, I understand why you make this
suggestion, but I don't think it fits my suggestion. I know that with
My New Friend, I tried this, and I hate most of the software he uses.

> otherwise anytime anything is broken and you ask the simplest
> question about how to go about fixing it, he's going to say,
> "Well, if you had just installed xxx, then I'd know right away,
> but I really don't like the way they handle this in this distro,
> and I've got to figure out what it is they've done, and in the
> meantime I'll change these other things to work this way..."and
> then your computer won't work.
>
> (I'm making this up.  This is not how it works at my house.)

I don't expect to be asking him for help in fixing any computer
stuff. IMFTATL, and all. I *hate* other people futzing with my
computer.

> You can also poke your nose into the linuxchix mailing list.  I
> haven't been following the tech lists for ages now, but this is
> just the kind of question for there.

Ooh, ooh!!! Thanks SOOOOO much! I didn't know there was such a thing!

I love you, man!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 10:28:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15914
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 10:28:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6646@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 16:33:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 16:39:03 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6EKd3Q20769 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          16:39:03 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JXS01154; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:39:01 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KHR01081; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:39:00 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D3154F2.4030.2383758@localhost>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:39:46 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714190136.CB8E97E2F@yellow.rahul.net>

On 14 Jul 2002 at 12:01, Karen Kay wrote:

> *er* is after me to install Linux on my computer. What flavor do I
>  want?

To what purpose? Presumably you mean as a dual-boot system. What then?
You've consumed a lot of disk space for something you won't use. Tell him to
screw around with his own computer if he has nothing else to do. Or get a
second computer to toy with.

If you're determined, look at Suse. It installs easily, seems to work well, and
is even kind of funny.

    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 10:32:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15923
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 10:32:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB665E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 16:37:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 16:42:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EKgbQ20934 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:42:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 94BBD8573; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 13:42:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714204236.94BBD8573@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:42:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3154F2.4030.2383758@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 14, 2002 10:39:46 am"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 14 Jul 2002 at 12:01, Karen Kay wrote:
> > *er* is after me to install Linux on my computer. What flavor do I
> >  want?
>
> To what purpose? Presumably you mean as a dual-boot system. What then?
> You've consumed a lot of disk space for something you won't use. Tell him to
> screw around with his own computer if he has nothing else to do. Or get a
> second computer to toy with.

His house is full of computers. I don't know why he got on this this
morning, but he wouldn't leave till I promised to do this to my
computer today and mow the lawn. (He helped me fix my lawnmower, and
saved me about $75.)

> If you're determined, look at Suse. It installs easily, seems to work well, and
> is even kind of funny.

Merci bien des fois!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 10:37:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15941
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 10:37:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6679@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 16:42:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 16:47:44 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6EKliQ21196 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          16:47:44 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JXS01552; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:47:43 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KHR01476; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:47:41 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D3154F2.4030.2383758@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
            "Jul 14, 2002 10:39:46 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D3156FB.7216.2402A89@localhost>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:48:27 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714204236.94BBD8573@yellow.rahul.net>

On 14 Jul 2002 at 13:42, Karen Kay wrote:

> I don't know why he got on this this morning, but he wouldn't
> leave till I promised to do this to my computer today and mow
> the lawn.

Well, you're your own woman, Karen, and presumably you know your own
criteria--logical ones, no doubt--for achieving happiness and contentment in
life. Personally, I would avoid like the plague anyone who goes around telling
other people what they should do with their computers.

     mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 10:43:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15951
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 10:43:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB66C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 16:48:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 16:54:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EKsOQ21638 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:54:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 52DE88585; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 13:54:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714205423.52DE88585@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:54:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3156FB.7216.2402A89@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 14, 2002 10:48:27 am"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> Well, you're your own woman, Karen, and presumably you know your own
> criteria--logical ones, no doubt--for achieving happiness and contentment in
> life.

Logical ones?! I thought you knew me.:)

> Personally, I would avoid like the plague anyone who goes around telling
> other people what they should do with their computers.

I am probably misrepresenting the situation, since when he mentioned
the possibility, I told him I had been meaning to get around to this
for some time.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 10:46:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15968
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 10:46:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB66EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 16:51:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13170003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 16:56:54 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EKurQ21860 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:56:53 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-148.panax.com
          [63.163.41.148]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6EKuqj29633 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          16:56:52 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020714204236.94BBD8573@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D3154F2.4030.2383758@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714165524.00a15b30@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:56:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3156FB.7216.2402A89@localhost>

>Personally, I would avoid like the plague anyone who goes around telling
>other people what they should do with their computers.
>      mem

Not to mention that he is a perfectionist with regard to his garden, is
clumsy and prone to stain things with his own blood, and extracts promises
of a mown lawn.  I'd run for the hills.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 10:51:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15972
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 10:51:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6845@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 16:56:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13171020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:02:19 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6EL2JQ22668 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          17:02:19 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JXS02201; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:02:18 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KHR02081; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:02:17 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D3156FB.7216.2402A89@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
            "Jul 14, 2002 10:48:27 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D315A66.29563.24D83AD@localhost>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:03:02 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714205423.52DE88585@yellow.rahul.net>

On 14 Jul 2002 at 13:54, Karen Kay wrote:

> I am probably misrepresenting the situation, since when he
> mentioned the possibility, I told him I had been meaning to get
> around to this for some time.

If you simply want to know more about Linux and see it as an educational
experience, I won't quibble. If you expect it to be some revolution in your
computing life, I think you'll be disappointed.

    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 10:52:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15979
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 10:52:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6852@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 16:57:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13171060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:02:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EL2YQ22692 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:02:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8D2258585; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:02:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714210233.8D2258585@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:02:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714165524.00a15b30@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 14, 2002  4:56:28 pm"

bonniev said:
> >Personally, I would avoid like the plague anyone who goes around telling
> >other people what they should do with their computers.
> >      mem
>
> Not to mention that he is a perfectionist with regard to his garden,

His *yard*. He even trimmed his neighbor's trees so they would be
pleasing to him. Whereas, my yard is as au naturel as I can make it.

I mean, the man waters his lawn! Sheesh.

> is clumsy and prone to stain things with his own blood,

Much like me.

> and extracts promises of a mown lawn.

He spent about a week fixing the lawnmower.

> I'd run for the hills.

But at the same time, he has dedicated himself to making sure my boat
gets sailed this year. There's no way I'm running from that. And I
like him, anyway.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 10:53:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15983
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 10:53:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB688C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 16:58:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13171224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:03:55 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EL3tQ22789 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:03:55 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5A2878585; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:03:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714210354.5A2878585@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:03:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D315A66.29563.24D83AD@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 14, 2002 11: 3: 2 am"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 14 Jul 2002 at 13:54, Karen Kay wrote:
> > I am probably misrepresenting the situation, since when he
> > mentioned the possibility, I told him I had been meaning to get
> > around to this for some time.
>
> If you simply want to know more about Linux and see it as an educational
> experience, I won't quibble. If you expect it to be some revolution in your
> computing life, I think you'll be disappointed.

Ah.

At this advanced age, I would be surprised at a revolution in my
computing life. But yes, what I expect is education.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 10:55:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15989
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 10:55:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB68AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 17:00:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13171341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:05:45 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6EL5jQ22996 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          17:05:45 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JXS02363; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:05:45 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KHR02230; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:05:43 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D3156FB.7216.2402A89@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D315B35.4630.250ABE8@localhost>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:06:29 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714165524.00a15b30@pop3.norton.antivirus>

On 14 Jul 2002 at 16:56, bonniev wrote:

> Not to mention that he is a perfectionist with regard to his
> garden, is clumsy and prone to stain things with his own blood,
> and extracts promises of a mown lawn.  I'd run for the hills.

Sounds like a very controlling individual. Moving to Japan starts to appear
more attractive.

   mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 10:57:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15993
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 10:57:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB68C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 17:02:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13171396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:08:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EL88Q23174 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:08:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5BCD28585; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:08:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714210804.5BCD28585@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:08:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D315B35.4630.250ABE8@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 14, 2002 11: 6:29 am"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 14 Jul 2002 at 16:56, bonniev wrote:
> > Not to mention that he is a perfectionist with regard to his
> > garden, is clumsy and prone to stain things with his own blood,
> > and extracts promises of a mown lawn.  I'd run for the hills.
>
> Sounds like a very controlling individual. Moving to Japan starts to appear
> more attractive.

He has some cultural issues.

But why do I care that he's a perfectionist wrt his yard? I'm sure he
hates mine, but he doesn't tell me so, so it's not a problem. He's not
forcing me to be like him. *That* would be intolerable, and even
helping me with the boat wouldn't make up for it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 10:58:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16005
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 10:58:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB68C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 17:03:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13171409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:09:19 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6EL9JQ23210 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          17:09:19 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6EL9I458174 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          17:09:19 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEKNFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:08:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714190136.CB8E97E2F@yellow.rahul.net>

>
> *er* is after me to install Linux on my computer. What flavor do I
>  want?
>
> Karen

Refresh me....why are we calling him *er*?

Tell him to back off.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 11:00:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16014
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 11:00:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00123477@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 17:11:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13171443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:11:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ELBRQ23326 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:11:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5DB7F858C; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:11:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714211126.5DB7F858C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:11:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEKNFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 14, 2002  2: 8: 6 pm"

S Hess said:
> > *er* is after me to install Linux on my computer. What flavor do I
> >  want?
> >
> > Karen
>
> Refresh me....why are we calling him *er*?

Because Marie's former amour didn't want his name bandied about, so he
was *ic*. Then she met and married *uc*. It's a way of providing an
identifier that gives the identified some privacy.

> Tell him to back off.

I think this would shock him more than anything. I clearly
misrepresented what happened.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 11:02:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16018
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 11:02:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012347F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 17:12:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13171473 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:12:50 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6ELCoQ23417 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          17:12:50 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JXS02760; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:12:49 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KHR02596; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:12:48 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D315B35.4630.250ABE8@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
            "Jul 14, 2002 11: 6:29 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D315CDE.30546.2572677@localhost>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:13:34 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714210804.5BCD28585@yellow.rahul.net>

On 14 Jul 2002 at 14:08, Karen Kay wrote:

> He's not forcing me to be like him.

Except with regard to computer operating systems? Force too strong a
word? How about coerce?

> *That* would be intolerable, and even helping me with the boat
> wouldn't make up for it.

Please report on the situation, say, six or nine months from now.

     mem

     Sorry, I read Carolyn Hax's column on Sunday mornings.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 11:07:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16030
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 11:07:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB68EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 17:12:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13171529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:17:37 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ELHaQ23650 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:17:36 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-73.panax.com
          [65.114.190.73]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6ELHZj31738 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          17:17:35 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D319449.1111A7AA@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714171500.00b59ec0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:17:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714151155.9997084DD@yellow.rahul.net>

Averiil. Camembert, Everett, Ferris, Gerhardt, Herman, Jerry, Kerry,
Mervin, Pervis, Terry, Venon.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 11:07:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16034
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 11:07:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB68ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 17:12:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13171533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:17:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ELHfQ23655 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:17:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 69BDA7D9F; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:16:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714211632.69BDA7D9F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:16:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D315CDE.30546.2572677@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 14, 2002 11:13:34 am"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 14 Jul 2002 at 14:08, Karen Kay wrote:
> > He's not forcing me to be like him.
>
> Except with regard to computer operating systems? Force too strong a
> word? How about coerce?

Encouraging. Empowering.

> > *That* would be intolerable, and even helping me with the boat
> > wouldn't make up for it.
>
> Please report on the situation, say, six or nine months from now.

Uh, okay.

>      Sorry, I read Carolyn Hax's column on Sunday mornings.

Who's Carolyn Hax?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 11:08:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16038
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 11:08:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB68F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 17:13:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13171550 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:19:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ELJRQ23724 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:19:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CFE677EF2; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 14:19:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714211903.CFE677EF2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:19:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714171500.00b59ec0@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 14, 2002  5:17:30 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> Averiil. Camembert, Everett, Ferris, Gerhardt, Herman, Jerry, Kerry,
> Mervin, Pervis, Terry, Venon.

NO.:)

Believe me, I would never be friends with anyone named "Pervis".

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 11:10:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16042
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 11:10:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB68FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 17:15:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13171572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:20:51 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6ELKpQ23801 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          17:20:51 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id JXU00040; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:20:50 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KHT00040; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:20:48 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D315CDE.30546.2572677@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
            "Jul 14, 2002 11:13:34 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D315EBE.29146.25E7B26@localhost>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:21:34 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714211632.69BDA7D9F@yellow.rahul.net>

On 14 Jul 2002 at 14:16, Karen Kay wrote:

> Who's Carolyn Hax?

The most brutal advice columnist I've ever read. Syndicated by the
Washington Post.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 11:30:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16068
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 11:30:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00123562@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 17:41:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13172149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:41:23 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ELfMQ25473 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:41:22 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ELXvb06419; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:33:57
          -0400
Received: from knowleshollow (RodmanDU81.nets.uri.edu [131.128.5.81]) by
          terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id g6ELe7k20405; Sun, 14 Jul
          2002 17:40:07 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <005301c22b7f$07f28350$0100a8c0@knowleshollow>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:39:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Alan Wild <awild@URI.EDU>
Subject:      Fw:      Carry a big stick!!!
Comments: To: Sue Manning <sue_manning@yahoo.com>,
          David Chidakel <DavidC7392@aol.com>
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

A big stick is good, a sword better, and a Colt 1911 perhaps best, IMHO  ;-)


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Eickerman" <john@EICKERMAN.COM>
>
> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/78308_sword12.shtml
> --
>
> Man uses sword to fend off 2 armed intruders
>
> Friday, July 12, 2002
>
> THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
>
> WENATCHEE -- A Wenatchee man grabbed a decorative sword to fight off two
> knife-wielding intruders who burst into his home.
>
> The swordsman and a woman at the home were not injured in Tuesday's
attack,
> police Sgt. Ken Manke said.
>
> Police found blood that they believed may be from one of the intruders,
> Manke said. He declined to identify the swordsman over concerns for his
> safety.
>
> Manke said the resident had a full-sized sword near him when the men broke
> in about 1:30 p.m. The intruders carried knives with blades that were 4
and
> 6 inches long, Manke said.
>
> A scuffle ensued in which the man fended off the robbers with the sword
and
> the robbers and the resident threw household items at each other, Manke
> said.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 11:50:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16087
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 11:50:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012367B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 18:00:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13172994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:00:51 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EM0pQ26870 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:00:51 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws164-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.164]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EM0lq08085
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:00:47 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D31F44B.14AFF35D@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:59:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      A Few More
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Almond Cheese Spread

1 (8-oz) package cream cheese, softened
2 TBS amaretto
2 TBS chopped blanched almonds
whole almonds

Combine cream cheese and amaretto; beat at medium speed of an electric
mixer until blended.  Stir in chopped almonds.  Shape mixture as
desired.  Cover and chill.  Garnish with whole almonds.  Serve with
gingersnaps.  Yield: 1 cup.

********

Green Elf Peter Sandwiches

1 can vertically packed green beans
sweet & sour sauce
Durkee dressing
extra thin white bread

Marinate beans overnight in sweet & sour sauce.  Cut crust off of
bread.  Spread w/ Durkee dressing.  Put one bean on a slice of bread and
roll up.  Freeze.  Remove from freezer and slice into small segments
about 30 minutes before party.

********

Quick Pate Spread

1 (8-oz) package cream cheese, softened
1 (8-oz) package liverwurst
2 TBS finely chopped onion
1 tsp chicken-flavored bouillon granules

Beat cream cheese until light and fluffy.  Add remaining ingredients,
mixing well.  Chill.   Serve with crackers.  Yield: 2 cups.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 11:52:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16094
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 11:52:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6AD1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 17:57:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13173035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:02:54 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EM2sQ27000 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:02:54 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws164-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.164]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6EM2kq08634
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:02:46 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020714185622.52C77840A@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D31F502.6FB3250C@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:02:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Ick! I would never have a friend named Scooter.

Buster?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 12:05:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16128
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 12:05:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6B41@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 18:10:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13173437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:15:41 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EMFfQ27957 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:15:41 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ900KS5F64J9@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:15:41 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D31D0A8.780EBD6F@valstar.net>
Message-ID:  <3D31F7B1.3020506@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:14:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> I think it's Xavier.
> --


No, that's Ana's New Friend from pottery class.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 12:11:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16139
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 12:11:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6B66@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 18:16:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13173589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:21:58 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EMLwQ28350 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:21:58 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-73.panax.com
          [65.114.190.73]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6EMLuj06317 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          18:21:57 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020714171500.00b59ec0@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714181415.00b56850@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:21:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714211903.CFE677EF2@yellow.rahul.net>

At 02:19 PM 7/14/2002 -0700, karen wrote:

>Believe me, I would never be friends with anyone named "Pervis".

Well, hell, it was worth a shot...

Oh yes, it should have been Averill and Vernon.

Now, there's still Evander, Herman, Hercules, Werner, Xerxes, Derwent,
Jerzy, Merlin, Ferlin, Kermit.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 12:14:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16146
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 12:14:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6B78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 18:19:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13173667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:24:48 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6EMOmQ28533 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          18:24:48 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6EMOl4102048 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul
          2002 18:24:47 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIELAFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:23:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D31F7B1.3020506@swbell.net>

erkel?
herman?
mermen?
ernie?

do you call him *er* to his face?

Sandera

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 12:14:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16157
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 12:14:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6B79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 18:19:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13173671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:25:25 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EMPPQ28565 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:25:25 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6EMPOni016743 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:25:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020714211903.CFE677EF2@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714171500.00b59ec0@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020714152444.00a765c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:25:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Brad's birthday
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714181415.00b56850@mail.panax.com>

is in a couple of days.  Should we have a party?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 12:16:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16170
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 12:16:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012375E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 18:27:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13173691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:27:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EMR0Q28621 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:27:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E457A8568; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 15:26:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714222659.E457A8568@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:26:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D31F502.6FB3250C@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 14,
              2002  5: 2:42 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Ick! I would never have a friend named Scooter.
>
> Buster?

No.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 12:17:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16174
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 12:17:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6B81@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 18:22:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13173699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:27:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EMRfQ28674 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:27:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 43B328585; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 15:27:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714222740.43B328585@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:27:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIELAFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 14, 2002  3:23:34 pm"

S Hess said:
> do you call him *er* to his face?

Of course not.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 12:17:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16178
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 12:17:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6B86@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 18:22:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13173709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:28:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EMSBQ28709 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:28:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 47B87858B; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 15:28:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714222811.47B87858B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:28:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Brad's birthday
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020714152444.00a765c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 14, 2002  3:25:25 pm"

Betty said:
> is in a couple of days.  Should we have a party?

Yes! What's his phone number?

Karen
who mowed the front lawn

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 12:19:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16182
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 12:19:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00123776@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 18:30:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13173735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:30:04 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EMU4Q28828 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:30:04 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6EMU2Y13965 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:30:02 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207141729280.13958-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:30:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714222740.43B328585@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> S Hess said:
> > do you call him *er* to his face?
>
> Of course not.

I wonder what it would sound like if you did.  You'd have to watch out for
spittle flying I guess.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 12:21:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16186
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 12:21:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6B94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 18:26:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13173769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:32:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EMW4Q28963 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:32:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 96C5A857E; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 15:32:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714223203.96C5A857E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:32:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207141729280.13958-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 14, 2002  5:30: 2 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> > S Hess said:
> > > do you call him *er* to his face?
> >
> > Of course not.
>
> I wonder what it would sound like if you did.  You'd have to watch out for
> spittle flying I guess.

This is, in general, a concern for me. So it really doesn't matter
what I call him.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 12:33:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16210
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 12:33:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6BCF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 18:38:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13173984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:43:41 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EMheQ29701 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:43:40 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-236.panax.com
          [63.163.41.236]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6EMhdj09017 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          18:43:39 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714184149.00a1ed70@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:42:35 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Er's yard
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Is part of his yard raked sand and stones?  I'd like that.  You could love
a guy just for that alone.  Does he have peace in his soul?  Does he meditate?


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 12:36:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16217
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 12:36:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00123800@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 18:46:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13174068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:46:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EMkxQ29892 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:46:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5135B7E3A; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 15:46:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714224658.5135B7E3A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:46:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er's yard
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714184149.00a1ed70@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 14, 2002  6:42:35 pm"

bonniev said:
> Is part of his yard raked sand and stones?

No. It's this vast, manicured expanse of St. Augustine grass, which I
particularly dislike.

> I'd like that.  You could love a guy just for that alone.

Not me.

> Does he have peace in his soul?  Does he meditate?

I don't know, but he does have goldfish in his pool. He doesn't like
maintaining the pool, so he put some goldfish in it, and now some of
them are as long as his forearm.

He clearly has a sense of humor.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 12:53:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16232
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 12:53:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6C53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 18:58:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13174383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:04:12 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EN4CQ30812 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:04:12 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-236.panax.com
          [63.163.41.236]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6EN4Bj11699 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          19:04:11 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus (Unverified)
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020714184149.00a1ed70@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714185248.00a15c80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:53:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er's yard
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714224658.5135B7E3A@yellow.rahul.net>

>I don't know, but he does have goldfish in his pool. He doesn't like
>maintaining the pool, so he put some goldfish in it, and now some of
>them are as long as his forearm.      --Karen

This is a good sign.  He isn't a perfectionist about everything then.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 12:53:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16236
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 12:53:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6C54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 18:58:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13174387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:04:13 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EN4DQ30817 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:04:13 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-236.panax.com
          [63.163.41.236]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6EN4Cj11704 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          19:04:12 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus (Unverified)
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020714184149.00a1ed70@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714190225.009f7120@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:03:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714224658.5135B7E3A@yellow.rahul.net>

Ers that are also Austin Streets:

Granger
Cameron
Bertram
Wimberly
Anderson
Bergstrom
Kerrville
Robert Dedman
?????????

    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 12:55:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16242
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 12:55:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6C5C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 19:00:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13174419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:06:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6EN6PQ30918 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:06:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C053A7EA8; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 16:06:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714230624.C053A7EA8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:06:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er's yard
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714185248.00a15c80@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 14, 2002  6:53:36 pm"

bonniev said:
> >I don't know, but he does have goldfish in his pool. He doesn't like
> >maintaining the pool, so he put some goldfish in it, and now some of
> >them are as long as his forearm.      --Karen
>
> This is a good sign.  He isn't a perfectionist about everything then.

No--I was surprised when I saw his yard, in fact. I do need, at some
point, to find out what's behind that. Also, he really understands the
presentation of food, which I find appealing. More appealing than a
gravel garden. How could you dislike a man who feels free to use
edible flowers?!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 13:08:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16266
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 13:08:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6C86@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 19:13:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13174578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:19:23 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ENJNQ31531 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:19:23 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust91.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.93]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005229452@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:19:23 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D3156FB.7216.2402A89@localhost> <3D315B35.4630.250ABE8@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D320774.95C2A1A2@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:21:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Michael E. Macmillan" wrote:
>
> Sounds like a very controlling individual.

I was just going to say that.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 13:16:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16281
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 13:16:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6CB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 19:21:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13174711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:26:39 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ENQcQ32007 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:26:38 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6ENQcb20275 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          18:26:38 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020714203049.EA9D88546@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <003001c22b8e$1b0a3780$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:28:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: 10 Sucky Toes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

-

> alyce cresap said:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > Clue: It doesn't begin with 'b'.
> >
> > Phooey, right after I'd guessed a B name. WIll you tell us if we get
it?
>
> I haven't decided. I think probably not, because I call him *er* for a
> reason.
>
> Karen


Maybe he's a Go-pher.
Or a philosoph-er.

          - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 13:17:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16285
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 13:17:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6CB5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 19:21:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13174723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:27:28 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ENRSQ32064 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:27:28 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020714232722.RDZV8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:27:22 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020714190136.CB8E97E2F@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714161313.021f86a0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:23:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3154F2.4030.2383758@localhost>

Michael E. Macmillan writes,

>If you're determined, look at Suse. It installs easily, seems to work
>well, and is even kind of funny.

A choice I could second.  Then there's RedHat, of course; probably nobody
gets fired for choosing RedHat.

I use Debian, a (perhaps "the") good geek distribution.  It has a steeper
learning curve at the beginning than others, but it has always been very
well-maintained and is very well-supported -- and the packaging system and
automatic upgrade process are really sweet.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 13:19:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16289
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 13:19:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6CC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 19:24:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13174785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:29:45 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ENTjQ32209 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:29:45 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust91.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.93]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003923468@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:29:44 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020714223203.96C5A857E@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3209E2.7ECEA2EC@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:31:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> This is, in general, a concern for me. So it really doesn't matter
> what I call him.

He spits?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 13:22:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16296
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 13:22:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6CC8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 19:26:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13174801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:32:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ENWRQ32370 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:32:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 38E7E7F07; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 16:32:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714233227.38E7E7F07@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:32:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3209E2.7ECEA2EC@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 14,
              2002  7:31:46 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > This is, in general, a concern for me. So it really doesn't matter
> > what I call him.
>
> He spits?

No.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 13:26:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16303
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 13:26:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6CDC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 19:31:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13174847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:37:19 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ENbJQ32649 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:37:19 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6ENbHni021289 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:37:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020714223203.96C5A857E@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020714163706.00a31570@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:37:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3209E2.7ECEA2EC@valstar.net>

At 07:31 PM 7/14/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > This is, in general, a concern for me. So it really doesn't matter
> > what I call him.
>
>He spits?

Karen spits.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 13:32:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16323
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 13:32:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6CF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 19:37:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13174924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:43:16 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ENhFQ00558 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:43:15 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-213.panax.com
          [63.163.42.213]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6ENhEj17396 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          19:43:14 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020714224658.5135B7E3A@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714184149.00a1ed70@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714194211.00a141e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:42:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714190225.009f7120@pop3.norton.antivirus>

>Ers that are also Austin Streets:
>
>Granger
>Cameron
>Bertram
>Wimberly
>Anderson
>Bergstrom
>Kerrville
>Robert Dedman

Also Leander

So, have I hit it K@R3N ??

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 13:36:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16330
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 13:36:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6D17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 19:41:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13174986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:47:01 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ENl0Q00753 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:47:01 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust91.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.93]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003923696@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:47:00 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020714223203.96C5A857E@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020714163706.00a31570@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D320DED.D45830FA@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:49:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:
> >
> Karen spits.

Eeeeeeeeew.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 13:46:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16345
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 13:46:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6D6A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 19:51:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:57:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ENv1Q01372 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:57:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9B2A17EEF; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 16:57:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714235700.9B2A17EEF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:57:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714194211.00a141e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 14, 2002  7:42:49 pm"

bonniev said:
> >Ers that are also Austin Streets:
> >
> >Granger
> >Cameron
> >Bertram
> >Wimberly
> >Anderson
> >Bergstrom
> >Kerrville
> >Robert Dedman
>
> Also Leander
>
> So, have I hit it K@R3N ??

Nope. Though I like Leander--that's probably a good choice. I could
just call him Leander.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 13:47:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16349
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 13:47:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6D6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 19:52:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:57:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ENveQ01445 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:57:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7681D7EEF; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 16:57:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020714235739.7681D7EEF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:57:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D320DED.D45830FA@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 14,
              2002  7:49: 1 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Betty wrote:
> > >
> > Karen spits.
>
> Eeeeeeeeew.

And I knock things over.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 13:49:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16353
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 13:49:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6D75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 19:54:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:00:13 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F00DQ01578 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:00:13 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust91.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.93]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003923910@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:59:16 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020714235739.7681D7EEF@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3210CD.7B04CFD4@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:01:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
>
> And I knock things over.

I knew that, but I did not know about the spittle.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 13:53:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16360
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 13:53:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6D93@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 19:58:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:03:45 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F03jQ02116 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:03:45 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6F03hni013975 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:03:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020714194211.00a141e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020714170254.00a3bba0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:03:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714235700.9B2A17EEF@yellow.rahul.net>

At 04:57 PM 7/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>bonniev said:
> > >Ers that are also Austin Streets:
> > >
> > >Granger
> > >Cameron
> > >Bertram
> > >Wimberly
> > >Anderson
> > >Bergstrom
> > >Kerrville
> > >Robert Dedman
> >
> > Also Leander
> >
> > So, have I hit it K@R3N ??
>
>Nope. Though I like Leander--that's probably a good choice. I could
>just call him Leander.

Or oleander. That's what I call him. The freeway flower.  Poison.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 13:54:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16371
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 13:54:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6D95@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 19:59:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:05:03 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ENt3Q01214 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:55:03 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F98701C for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:55:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6ENt2j02638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:55:02
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020714190136.CB8E97E2F@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020714223003.A16784@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714185502.A2104@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:55:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714223003.A16784@yoccoz.multinix.com>; from
              stevie@MULTINIX.COM on Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 10:30:03PM +0200

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 10:30:03PM +0200, steph wrote:
> Well, if you wanted it you would know which flavor.  Since he
> wants you to do it you may as well go with the one he likes, as
> otherwise anytime anything is broken and you ask the simplest
> question about how to go about fixing it, he's going to say,
> "Well, if you had just installed xxx, then I'd know right away,
> but I really don't like the way they handle this in this distro,
> and I've got to figure out what it is they've done, and in the
> meantime I'll change these other things to work this way..."and
> then your computer won't work.
>
> (I'm making this up.  This is not how it works at my house.)

This is not universally true. For instance, I always try not to
be an ass. But once in a while you see something so profoundly
space-cadet-rigged that you have to say it will have to be
changed. Note: I said SAY. Never change things to "work better".

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:03:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16395
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:03:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6DBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:08:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:13:51 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F03pQ02122 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:03:51 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC6E70E5 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:03:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6F03og02972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:03:50
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020712202950.00b794d8@mail.panax.com>
            <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net> <20020712145450.A91935@pobox.com>
            <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net> <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020712202950.00b794d8@mail.panax.com>
            <20020714191031.A16331@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140300.00b51410@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714190350.B2104@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:03:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140300.00b51410@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 02:18:29PM -0400

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 02:18:29PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> At 07:10 PM 7/14/2002 +0200, steph wrote:
>
> >Help!  How do I know which one I am?
>
> Is it possible that you are neither?  My impression of you is that you are
> a good technical person whose latest flyer into supervision or management
> wasn't all that successful/enjoyable.  There is an old adage (probably
> invented before Tushar's birth, which means he will grant it no credence)

I detect a problem with clear reading.

> that excellence in technical/staff work will increasingly and incorrectly
> be viewed as managerial aptitude.

I have heard numerous clear communicators (of a certain age) quote
this "adage", but not seen one real-life instance. I have, on the
other hand, seen the incompetence of technical people viewed as
managerial ineptitude.

Perhaps these ultra-clear communicators choose "adages" not for
their value but for the ease with which they lend themselves to
pimping epigrams.

> In my career, I met only a half-dozen or so who were true generalists.

I will have to agree with this statement, since in my meager under-
standing, it is unfalsifiable from a Popperian P.O.V.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:03:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16402
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:03:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6DBB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:08:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:14:20 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F04KQ02159 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:04:20 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E1F7007 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:04:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6F04JU02982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:04:19
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020714123056.B48878@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140129.00b48eb0@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714190419.C2104@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:04:19 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140129.00b48eb0@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 02:01:54PM -0400

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 02:01:54PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> At 12:30 PM 7/14/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:
>
> >No, you don't. Perhaps nobody knows what I am talking about.
>
> Then try writing more clearly.

Clearly like Hemingway or clearly like E B White?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:05:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16406
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:05:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6DD7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:10:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:16:24 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0GOQ02866 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:16:24 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020715001618.ILTW29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 00:16:18 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEBDGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:18:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207102127290.13613-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

> I had a small thermos of Straus Family Dairy wholefat yoghurt with Del
> Monte canned pineapple chunks, plus a Mrs. Fields bittersweet chocolate
> chip with walnuts cookie.

I discovered Stonyfield Farms' whole-fat organic yogurt in February and it
has made all the difference in my attitude toward plain yogurt. It's so
good. I have it every afternoon with fruit and Splenda mixed in. I'd like to
try the vanilla whole-fat sometime but there's too much sugar in it.

--Adam

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:08:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16413
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:08:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6DEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:13:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:19:03 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F093Q02379 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:09:03 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91477135 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:09:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6F092h03138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:09:02
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <006301c22a09$76b2d960$360332d1@0018079268>
            <3D2F01FF.10047.17BEF41@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714190902.D2104@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:09:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F01FF.10047.17BEF41@localhost>; from mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET on
              Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 04:21:19PM -1000

On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 04:21:19PM -1000, Michael E. Macmillan wrote:
> I don't know that I would call wikiwiki a low-class word. It's one of
> those words whose meaning is known to all, but few would actually use it
> in conversation--English-language conversation, that is. I don't know
> whether it's common in Hawaiian-language conversations or not. A good
> question to pose to someone.

Let me know the answer.

>                          It's a word I would expect to find more often
> in names of entities: Wikiwiki Photo Finishing or Wikiwiki Airport Shuttle
> or something like that. I might expect to see it in Waikiki but not in
> Waialua.

So maybe it's more like Kiwk'n'Easy. Few would actually use it
in formal writing.

> > I have not noticed a perceivable class system in [...]

This should set off all sorts of alarms but unfortunately it doesn't.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:08:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16420
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:08:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6DEE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:13:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:19:09 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0J6Q03034 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:19:07 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-83.panax.com [63.163.41.83])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0J4j22785 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:19:04 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140300.00b51410@mail.panax.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020712202950.00b794d8@mail.panax.com>
            <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net> <20020712145450.A91935@pobox.com>
            <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net> <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020712202950.00b794d8@mail.panax.com>
            <20020714191031.A16331@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140300.00b51410@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714201807.00a13040@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:18:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714190350.B2104@pobox.com>

> > In my career, I met only a half-dozen or so who were true generalists.
>
>I will have to agree with this statement, since in my meager under-
>standing, it is unfalsifiable from a Popperian P.O.V.

Yes, to disagree would be an inappropriate second order statement.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:11:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16424
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:11:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6DF6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:15:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:21:30 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0LUQ03130 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:21:30 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ900K87KZTHG@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:21:29 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEBDGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Message-ID:  <3D32152E.4010600@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:19:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:

>>I had a small thermos of Straus Family Dairy wholefat yoghurt with Del
>>Monte canned pineapple chunks, plus a Mrs. Fields bittersweet chocolate
>>chip with walnuts cookie.
>>
>
> I discovered Stonyfield Farms' whole-fat organic yogurt in February and it
> has made all the difference in my attitude toward plain yogurt. It's so
> good. I have it every afternoon with fruit and Splenda mixed in. I'd like to
> try the vanilla whole-fat sometime but there's too much sugar in it.
>


Ah, yes... this stuff is *fabulous*.  I love the full-fat
varieties sweetened with fruit and honey.  Schnucks only
carries the non-fat Stonyfield Farms yogurt.  Of these, the
carmel is to die for.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:16:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16439
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:16:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00123B38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:26:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:26:28 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0QSQ03947 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:26:28 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020715002623.IVEP29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 00:26:23 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEBEGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:28:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711134105.7736280AA@yellow.rahul.net>

> It's good though, that they are normal weight. My brothers were in ICU
> for a long time--we stopped believing my parents, that we had new
> brothers.
>
> Karen

How long, exactly, were they in? I was in the neo-natal ICU for 2 months
before I got to go home. Is that a long time?

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com
slowly catching up

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:17:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16443
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:17:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6E42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:22:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:28:14 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0IDQ02962 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:18:13 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C77E6719 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:18:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6F0ID403364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:18:13
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714191813.E2104@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:18:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Quiet warriors get a voice
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Volunteer now!

<http://www.citizencorps.gov/tips.html>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:23:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16447
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:23:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6E71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:28:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:34:01 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0Y1Q04872 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:34:01 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-176.panax.com
          [63.163.41.176]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6F0XKj24606; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:33:20 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714201358.00b62e78@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:33:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      meanderings
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714123056.B48878@pobox.com>

Supper was good.  Grilled chicken breasts that had been marinated in citrus
and some other things, garlic potato patties, and very nice fesh
broccoli.  Afterwards, I took my wine and and a fresh cup of tea to the
deck.  The evening was clear and calm.  Soon, a contrail appeared---a plane
incoming from Europe, headed either to Boston or New York and then another,
further off and much closer to the horizon, headed outbound.  The sunset
color was mostly of a muted gold, although certain low-lying clouds were
tinged with a rosy pink.

Bonnie joined me on the deck and we chatted about the day's email traffic,
the doings in the neighborhood that we had observed and were observing, and
things in general.   Afterwards I sat there and watched more
contrails---with the usual phenomenon of this time of the evening of the
plane suddenly reflecting the setting sun as a brief silver flash.  There
in the calm I reflected upon the days with TVA, when everything was urgent
but damned few things were important and where in spite on one's own
self-directed "pep talks," it sometimes was impossible not to get caught up
in the general brou-ha-ha.  And now, to be able to watch the contrails,
think about the past day, or the activities of the day to come, or what my
daughter might be doing on the Left Coast, and to do all of this while
looking at a somewhat increasingly brilliant, small crescent moon just
above the branches of the white pine in the corner of our yard and to
realize once again how fortunate I am to be able to experience all of this.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:24:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16499
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:24:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6E80@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:29:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:34:56 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0OuQ03616 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:24:56 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6124C6BB9 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:24:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6F0Ouw03711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:24:56
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEBDGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <3D32152E.4010600@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714192456.A3551@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:24:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D32152E.4010600@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Sun,
              Jul 14, 2002 at 07:19:58PM -0500

> >>I had a small thermos of Straus Family Dairy wholefat yoghurt with Del
> >>Monte canned pineapple chunks, plus a Mrs. Fields bittersweet chocolate
> >>chip with walnuts cookie.

> > I discovered Stonyfield Farms' whole-fat organic yogurt in February and it
> > has made all the difference in my attitude toward plain yogurt. It's so
> > good. I have it every afternoon with fruit and Splenda mixed in. I'd like to
> > try the vanilla whole-fat sometime but there's too much sugar in it.

> Ah, yes... this stuff is *fabulous*.  I love the full-fat
> varieties sweetened with fruit and honey.  Schnucks only
> carries the non-fat Stonyfield Farms yogurt.  Of these, the
> carmel is to die for.

Oh my ASS!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:26:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16503
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:26:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6EA9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:31:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:37:12 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0bBQ05191 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:37:11 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-176.panax.com
          [63.163.41.176]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6F0bAj25151 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          20:37:10 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140300.00b51410@mail.panax.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020712202950.00b794d8@mail.panax.com>
            <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net> <20020712145450.A91935@pobox.com>
            <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net> <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020712202950.00b794d8@mail.panax.com>
            <20020714191031.A16331@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140300.00b51410@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714203432.00b72930@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:35:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714190350.B2104@pobox.com>

At 07:03 PM 7/14/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:

>I have heard numerous clear communicators (of a certain age) quote
>this "adage", but not seen one real-life instance. I have, on the
>other hand, seen the incompetence of technical people viewed as
>managerial ineptitude.

Clearly, you have a limited experiential base.  You must upgrade.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:26:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16510
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:26:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6EAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:31:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:37:16 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0bEQ05197 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:37:14 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-176.panax.com
          [63.163.41.176]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6F0bBj25158 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          20:37:12 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140129.00b48eb0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020714123056.B48878@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140129.00b48eb0@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714203547.00b5c6e0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:36:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714190419.C2104@pobox.com>

At 07:04 PM 7/14/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:

>Clearly like Hemingway or clearly like E B White?

Try a bit of each---it can only help.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:27:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16514
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:27:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6EAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:32:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:38:23 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6F0cNQ05242 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          20:38:23 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6F0cM4311108 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul
          2002 20:38:23 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEELGFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:37:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEBDGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

> > I had a small thermos of Straus Family Dairy wholefat yoghurt with Del
> > Monte canned pineapple chunks, plus a Mrs. Fields bittersweet chocolate
> > chip with walnuts cookie.
>
> I discovered Stonyfield Farms' whole-fat organic yogurt in February and it
> has made all the difference in my attitude toward plain yogurt. It's so
> good. I have it every afternoon with fruit and Splenda mixed in.
> I'd like to
> try the vanilla whole-fat sometime but there's too much sugar in it.
>
> --Adam

I've just been having the creamline yogurt (trader joe's) with some
all -fruit spread and equal. I should try the Strauss Family yogurt they
sell. It might be even tastier.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:28:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16518
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:28:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6EB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:33:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:38:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0cgQ05257 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:38:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E1B958097; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:38:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715003841.E1B958097@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:38:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020714170254.00a3bba0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 14, 2002  5: 3:44 pm"

Betty said:
> At 04:57 PM 7/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >bonniev said:
> > > >Ers that are also Austin Streets:
> > > >
> > > >Granger
> > > >Cameron
> > > >Bertram
> > > >Wimberly
> > > >Anderson
> > > >Bergstrom
> > > >Kerrville
> > > >Robert Dedman
> > >
> > > Also Leander
> > >
> > > So, have I hit it K@R3N ??
> >
> >Nope. Though I like Leander--that's probably a good choice. I could
> >just call him Leander.
>
> Or oleander. That's what I call him. The freeway flower.  Poison.

But you don't even know him!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:29:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16522
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:29:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00123BB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:39:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:39:31 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0dVQ05298 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:39:31 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020715003926.DLGW6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 00:39:26 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGMEBFGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:42:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711194649.CGAA6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58>

> There was pizza in New Haven in 1925. This according to
> the sign for Frank Pepe Pizzeria on Wooster Street.
>
> Tina and I ate there last Saturday. The last time I'd
> been to Pepe's was for a wordsler gathering. Not only
> were the wordslers missing but so was the clam pizza (for
> some reason they weren't serving it that night).
>
> lisa

I think I had pizza there with Emily once. It was really good, but a bit
thinner-crusted than what I'm used to.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com
who else love anchovies here besides me?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:29:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16531
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:29:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6EBB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:34:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:39:45 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0djQ05313 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:39:45 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ900D2RLU828@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:39:45 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020715003841.E1B958097@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D321975.20406@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:38:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Betty said:
>
>>At 04:57 PM 7/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>>>bonniev said:
>>>
>>>>>Ers that are also Austin Streets:
>>>>>
>>>>>Granger
>>>>>Cameron
>>>>>Bertram
>>>>>Wimberly
>>>>>Anderson
>>>>>Bergstrom
>>>>>Kerrville
>>>>>Robert Dedman
>>>>>
>>>>Also Leander
>>>>
>>>>So, have I hit it K@R3N ??
>>>>
>>>Nope. Though I like Leander--that's probably a good choice. I could
>>>just call him Leander.
>>>
>>Or oleander. That's what I call him. The freeway flower.  Poison.
>>
>
> But you don't even know him!
>


        It's just that we were all so attached to The New Friend.  It
is a little difficult to see him supplanted so suddenly by
this suspiciously stained interlop*er*.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:30:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16540
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:30:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6EC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:34:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:40:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0eVQ05412 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:40:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BF8B285B8; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:40:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715004030.BF8B285B8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:40:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEBEGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 14, 2002  8:28:59 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> > It's good though, that they are normal weight. My brothers were in ICU
> > for a long time--we stopped believing my parents, that we had new
> > brothers.
> >
> > Karen
>
> How long, exactly, were they in? I was in the neo-natal ICU for 2 months
> before I got to go home. Is that a long time?

Yes.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:31:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16544
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:31:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6ED8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:36:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:42:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0g4Q05593 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:42:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1A9628597; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:42:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715004204.1A9628597@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:42:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGMEBFGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 14, 2002  8:42: 2 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> who else love anchovies here besides me?

*er* loves anchovies.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:32:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16548
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:32:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00123BD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:42:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:42:52 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0gqQ05637 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:42:52 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020715004246.DOUK6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 00:42:46 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEBGGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:45:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020711201807.56BC880C0@yellow.rahul.net>

> Adam???? Adam doesn't know where to shop for women's clothes. (But
> yes, I thought this was very sweet, that Alec knew.
>
> Karen

Excuse me? Hello, 3 sisters, mother, aunt, and 7 female cousins! I've been
dragged into just about every women's clothing store that exists around
here.

MY answer to your question, had I read it in a timely fashion, would have
been to see what Coldwater Creek had to offer. So there.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:34:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16552
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:34:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6EE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:38:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:44:24 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0iOQ05707 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:44:24 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-83.panax.com [63.163.41.83])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0iMj26068 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:44:23 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020715003841.E1B958097@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714204234.00a18b20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:43:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D321975.20406@swbell.net>

>        It's just that we were all so attached to The New Friend.  It
>is a little difficult to see him supplanted so suddenly by
>this suspiciously stained interlop*er*.
>Rita Rouvalis Chapman

Indeed.  And now this interlop*er* is taking over the boat that is co-owned
by Karen and her new friend.   The poor new friend.  Will he be invited
along to sail on *his* boat when it is finally seaworthy?


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:36:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16556
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:36:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6EFF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:40:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:46:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0kOQ05942 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:46:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 42FDF85C3; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:46:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715004623.42FDF85C3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:46:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D321975.20406@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 14,
              2002  7:38:13 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
>         It's just that we were all so attached to The New Friend.

So am I. We are talking to each other again and everything.

> It is a little difficult to see him supplanted so suddenly by this
> suspiciously stained interlop*er*.
n
LOL. I still like Leander best, but Interloper is a close second.

I was seeing less and less of My New Friend; *er* has merely taken up
the slack. Can't I see both of them?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:38:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16560
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:38:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6F0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:43:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:49:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0n2Q06133 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:49:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1E18485C2; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:49:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715004902.1E18485C2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:49:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEBGGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 14, 2002  8:45:22 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> MY answer to your question, had I read it in a timely fashion, would have
> been to see what Coldwater Creek had to offer. So there.

Are they a store? There's no way I'm mailordering clothes for an
interview, sorry.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:40:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16567
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:40:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6F19@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:45:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:50:48 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0okQ06221 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:50:47 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-83.panax.com [63.163.41.83])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0oij26911 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:50:44 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020714123056.B48878@pobox.com>
            <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714204838.00a1ea20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:50:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: meanderings
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714201358.00b62e78@mail.panax.com>

>increasingly brilliant, small crescent moon just
>above the branches of the white pine in the corner of our yard and to
>realize once again how fortunate I am to be able to experience all of this.
>cwv

And I'm grateful for the less poetic things like finally just winning a
Scrabble game against BadBetty who in this regard is very good.  And I'm
grateful for the wonderful weather that we've had all week.  Once more I've
had to don a flannel shirt against the cool night air. Ahhhh.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:41:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16571
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:41:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6F29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:46:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:51:54 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0pqQ06296 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:51:52 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-83.panax.com [63.163.41.83])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0pmj27020 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:51:48 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEBGGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714205053.00a16350@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:51:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715004902.1E18485C2@yellow.rahul.net>

>Adam Hartfield said:
> > MY answer to your question, had I read it in a timely fashion, would have
> > been to see what Coldwater Creek had to offer. So there.
>
>Are they a store? There's no way I'm mailordering clothes for an
>interview, sorry.      --Karen

Yes, they are a store.  I was in one in Cincinnati.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:43:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16575
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:43:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6F3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:48:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:54:21 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0sKQ06465 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:54:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 29C5785CC; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:54:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715005417.29C5785CC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:54:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714204234.00a18b20@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 14, 2002  8:43:56 pm"

bonniev said:
> >        It's just that we were all so attached to The New Friend.  It
> >is a little difficult to see him supplanted so suddenly by
> >this suspiciously stained interlop*er*.
> >Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>
> Indeed.  And now this interlop*er* is taking over the boat that is co-owned
> by Karen and her new friend.

*Er* has his own boat. Actually, two boats. And he belongs to the
Austin Yacht Club--he has no shortage of sailing opportunities. He's
not 'taking over' MNF's boat. MNF refuses to have anything to do with
the boat's maintenance or repair, and won't get it ready to sell. *er*
is helping me deal with this freaking mess that My New Friend has
dumped on me.

> The poor new friend.  Will he be invited along to sail on *his* boat
> when it is finally seaworthy?

Probably. He'll probably be invited to help fix it, too, once the game
plan is clearer.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:44:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16582
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:44:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6F3F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:49:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:54:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0spQ06487 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:54:51 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5060585CB; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 17:54:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715005450.5060585CB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:54:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714205053.00a16350@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 14, 2002  8:51:22 pm"

bonniev said:
> >Adam Hartfield said:
> > > MY answer to your question, had I read it in a timely fashion, would have
> > > been to see what Coldwater Creek had to offer. So there.
> >
> >Are they a store? There's no way I'm mailordering clothes for an
> >interview, sorry.      --Karen
>
> Yes, they are a store.  I was in one in Cincinnati.

I checked; there's not one near here.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:47:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16591
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:47:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6F5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:52:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:57:41 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0vfQ06714 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:57:41 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ900D0JMO41U@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:57:40 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020714123056.B48878@pobox.com>
            <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714204838.00a1ea20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID:  <3D321DA9.2000703@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:56:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: meanderings
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

>> increasingly brilliant, small crescent moon just
>> above the branches of the white pine in the corner of our yard and to
>> realize once again how fortunate I am to be able to experience all of
>> this.
>> cwv
>
>
> And I'm grateful for the less poetic things like finally just winning a
> Scrabble game against BadBetty who in this regard is very good.  And I'm
> grateful for the wonderful weather that we've had all week.  Once more I've
> had to don a flannel shirt against the cool night air. Ahhhh.
>


        We've had a few very temperate days here in Missouri.  I
actually felt chilly when I got out of the water today.  The
river is as warm as bathwater right now.
Reminds me of summer the way it used to be.... oh well...
back to hot as hell tomorrow (just in time for Dad to
arrive, poor guy).


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:48:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16598
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:48:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6F67@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:53:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:59:10 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0xAQ06805 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:59:10 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ900DEEMQL1Z@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:59:10 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020715004623.42FDF85C3@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D321E02.10206@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:57:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:



> I was seeing less and less of My New Friend; *er* has merely taken up
> the slack. Can't I see both of them?
>


        Whore!

*wink*





--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:52:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16602
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:52:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6F88@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 20:57:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:03:10 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F13AQ07088 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:03:10 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ900KVSMX9JD@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:03:09 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEBDGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <3D32152E.4010600@swbell.net> <20020714192456.A3551@pobox.com>
Message-ID:  <3D321EF2.1050501@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:01:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:

>>>>I had a small thermos of Straus Family Dairy wholefat yoghurt with Del
>>>>Monte canned pineapple chunks, plus a Mrs. Fields bittersweet chocolate
>>>>chip with walnuts cookie.
>>>>
>
>>>I discovered Stonyfield Farms' whole-fat organic yogurt in February and it
>>>has made all the difference in my attitude toward plain yogurt. It's so
>>>good. I have it every afternoon with fruit and Splenda mixed in. I'd like to
>>>try the vanilla whole-fat sometime but there's too much sugar in it.
>>>
>
>>Ah, yes... this stuff is *fabulous*.  I love the full-fat
>>varieties sweetened with fruit and honey.  Schnucks only
>>carries the non-fat Stonyfield Farms yogurt.  Of these, the
>>carmel is to die for.
>>
>
> Oh my ASS!


http://www.etext.org/~rita/just4u



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 14:56:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16609
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 14:56:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6FA7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 21:01:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:06:38 -0400
Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F0ubQ06623 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:56:38 -0400
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com
          (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g6F0uas93717 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:56:36 -1000 (HST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D2F01FF.10047.17BEF41@localhost>; from mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET on
            Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 04:21:19PM -1000
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D31914C.14756.323F625@localhost>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:57:16 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@FLEX.COM>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714190902.D2104@pobox.com>

On 14 Jul 2002 at 19:09, Tushar Samant wrote:

> Let me know the answer.

I will add this: The Pukui and Elbert Hawaiian Dictionary gives no indication that there is anything special about the word. It's
just a word meaning, basically, quick. Nor does Albert Schutz in his little book, All About Hawaiian, where he uses it as an
example of the Hawaiian words that have infiltrated English. His example is the same as one of those I mentioned: The
wikiwiki shuttle bus at the airport.

> So maybe it's more like Kiwk'n'Easy. Few would actually use it
> in formal writing.

I'm no authority, of course, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that one writing in Hawaiian wouldn't use it to express the
meaning of quickness or haste, though there seem to be quite a few synonyms in the dictionary.

As a loanword into English, I have trouble thinking of an appropriate way of using it in formal writing. In informal writing, such
as personal letters, maybe. In dialogue in fiction, perhaps, as in a spoken injunction to a house servant to do something
quickly.


     mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:03:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16629
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:03:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6FC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 21:08:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:13:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F1DYQ07727 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:13:35 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 41D6785DF; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:13:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715011334.41D6785DF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:13:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D31914C.14756.323F625@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 14, 2002  2:57:16 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> As a loanword into English, I have trouble thinking of an appropriate way of using it in formal writing. In informal writing, such
> as personal letters, maybe. In dialogue in fiction, perhaps, as in a spoken injunction to a house servant to do something
> quickly.

How many house servants do you have?!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:04:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16636
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:04:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6FC6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 21:09:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:14:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F1EaQ07789 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:14:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E492B85E1; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:14:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715011435.E492B85E1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:14:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714161313.021f86a0@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Jul 14, 2002  4:23:41 pm"

Peter Kaminski said:
> Michael E. Macmillan writes,
> >If you're determined, look at Suse. It installs easily, seems to work
> >well, and is even kind of funny.
>
> A choice I could second.  Then there's RedHat, of course; probably nobody
> gets fired for choosing RedHat.

LOL.

> I use Debian, a (perhaps "the") good geek distribution.  It has a steeper
> learning curve at the beginning than others, but it has always been very
> well-maintained and is very well-supported -- and the packaging system and
> automatic upgrade process are really sweet.

I'll look at these.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:07:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16643
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:07:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00123D07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 21:18:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:18:20 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F18KQ07420 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:08:20 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6F18JUh010898 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:08:19 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207142107560.20011-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:08:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715004204.1A9628597@yellow.rahul.net>

Adam Hartfield said:

> who else love anchovies here besides me?

me

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:08:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16650
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:08:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB6FE1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 21:13:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:19:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F1JMQ08093 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:19:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 80C8985E8; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:19:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715011921.80C8985E8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:19:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Electric stoves?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Okay, I have this electric stove that is original to this house, so
it's 17 years old. The small front burner stopped working, so I
swapped in the small back burner--and it doesn't work either. What
else can be wrong? And is it easily fixable?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:17:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16662
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:17:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00123D5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 21:27:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:27:49 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F1RnQ08633 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:27:49 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6F1Rmni031973 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:27:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020711134105.7736280AA@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020714182713.00a7dad0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:27:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BatFest T-shirts
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEBEGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

At 08:28 PM 7/14/2002 -0400, Adam wrote:
> > It's good though, that they are normal weight. My brothers were in ICU
> > for a long time--we stopped believing my parents, that we had new
> > brothers.
> >
> > Karen
>
>How long, exactly, were they in? I was in the neo-natal ICU for 2 months
>before I got to go home. Is that a long time?

Yes. And look at you now!  You grew up.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:23:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16669
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:23:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB704B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 21:28:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:34:03 -0400
Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F1O2Q08372 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:24:02 -0400
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com
          (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g6F1O1s99570 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:24:01 -1000 (HST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D31914C.14756.323F625@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
            "Jul 14, 2002  2:57:16 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D3197B9.18620.33D0E3A@localhost>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:24:41 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@FLEX.COM>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715011334.41D6785DF@yellow.rahul.net>

On 14 Jul 2002 at 18:13, Karen Kay wrote:

> How many house servants do you have?!

Please read carefully, K@r3n. It was a hypothetical example of fiction. Any
notion that I have house servants is more than just fiction--it's wild fiction.

    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:23:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16676
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:23:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00123D9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 21:34:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:34:12 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F1YCQ09110 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:34:12 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6F1YAni005388 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:34:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020714170254.00a3bba0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020714183305.00a81960@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:34:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715003841.E1B958097@yellow.rahul.net>

At 05:38 PM 7/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > At 04:57 PM 7/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >bonniev said:
> > > > >Ers that are also Austin Streets:
> > > > >
> > > > >Granger
> > > > >Cameron
> > > > >Bertram
> > > > >Wimberly
> > > > >Anderson
> > > > >Bergstrom
> > > > >Kerrville
> > > > >Robert Dedman
> > > >
> > > > Also Leander
> > > >
> > > > So, have I hit it K@R3N ??
> > >
> > >Nope. Though I like Leander--that's probably a good choice. I could
> > >just call him Leander.
> >
> > Or oleander. That's what I call him. The freeway flower.  Poison.
>
>But you don't even know him!

When I discuss him with Larry I call him Oleander. I told him Oleander is
going to make your boat float.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:28:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16687
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:28:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB7073@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 21:32:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:38:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F1cOQ09335 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:38:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 670A67FC2; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:38:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715013823.670A67FC2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:38:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3197B9.18620.33D0E3A@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 14, 2002  3:24:41 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 14 Jul 2002 at 18:13, Karen Kay wrote:
> > How many house servants do you have?!
>
> Please read carefully, K@r3n. It was a hypothetical example of fiction. Any
> notion that I have house servants is more than just fiction--it's wild fiction.

I know. I was just emulating my mentor, BB, who neither spits nor
knocks over...

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:28:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16691
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:28:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB7077@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 21:33:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13177996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:39:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F1dEQ09369 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:39:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D8F697FC2; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:39:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715013913.D8F697FC2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:39:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020714183305.00a81960@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 14, 2002  6:34:10 pm"

Betty said:
> When I discuss him with Larry I call him Oleander. I told him Oleander is
> going to make your boat float.

Actually, the person who's probably going to make it float is named
Larry. Leander just introduced me to Larry.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:32:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16705
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:32:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB709B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 21:37:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:42:54 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6F1gsQ09666 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          21:42:54 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6F1gr4116752 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul
          2002 21:42:53 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKELKFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:41:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      SFGate Article on Library Trends
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From today's SFGate:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q5F626341

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:34:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16712
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:34:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00123DF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 21:44:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:44:41 -0400
Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F1ifQ09770 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:44:41 -0400
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com
          (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g6F1ids03908 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:44:40 -1000 (HST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D3197B9.18620.33D0E3A@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
            "Jul 14, 2002  3:24:41 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D319C90.10274.34FF4FB@localhost>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:45:20 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@FLEX.COM>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715013823.670A67FC2@yellow.rahul.net>

On 14 Jul 2002 at 18:38, Karen Kay wrote:

> I know. I was just emulating my mentor, BB, who neither spits nor
> knocks over...

She's a troublemaker. No doubt about it. Every time is see "BB" I think of
that place of business on Kapiolani Boulevard named Backseat Betty's.

    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:34:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16716
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:34:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB70AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 21:39:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:45:07 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F1j7Q09847 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:45:07 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020715014501.ODYT24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 01:45:01 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIEBJGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:47:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020712112248.02531e60@mail.istori.com>

> (Reminds me, I've been meaning to order some a capella
> <http://www.varsityvocals.com/boca.html>.)

I have either the BOCA 2000 or 2001 disc; I can't remember which. It's
great. One of the songs on your to-be-mailed-tomorrow mix CDs is from there.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:35:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16720
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:35:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB70B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 21:39:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:45:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F1jVQ09888 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:45:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E0F4A7FC2; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 18:45:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715014530.E0F4A7FC2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:45:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D319C90.10274.34FF4FB@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 14, 2002  3:45:20 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 14 Jul 2002 at 18:38, Karen Kay wrote:
> > I know. I was just emulating my mentor, BB, who neither spits nor
> > knocks over...
>
> She's a troublemaker. No doubt about it. Every time is see "BB" I think of
> that place of business on Kapiolani Boulevard named Backseat Betty's.

That's what I'm going to call her from now on!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:46:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16736
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:46:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB7106@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 21:51:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:57:20 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F1lKQ09986 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:47:20 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608CB6FD3 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:47:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6F1lKh06479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:47:20
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020712202950.00b794d8@mail.panax.com>
            <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net> <20020712145450.A91935@pobox.com>
            <3D2F6BDE.319BC3A2@valstar.net> <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020712202950.00b794d8@mail.panax.com>
            <20020714191031.A16331@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140300.00b51410@mail.panax.com>
            <20020714190350.B2104@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714203432.00b72930@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714204720.A6309@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:47:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714203432.00b72930@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:35:30PM -0400

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:35:30PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> At 07:03 PM 7/14/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:
>
> >I have heard numerous clear communicators (of a certain age) quote
> >this "adage", but not seen one real-life instance. I have, on the
> >other hand, seen the incompetence of technical people viewed as
> >managerial ineptitude.
>
> Clearly, you have a limited experiential base.  You must upgrade.

"Extensive experience" ... that's a pretty good euphemism!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:51:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16744
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:51:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB712D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 21:56:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:02:03 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F1q3Q10354 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:52:03 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACB4718C for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:52:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6F1q2o06633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:52:02
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140129.00b48eb0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020714123056.B48878@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140129.00b48eb0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020714190419.C2104@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714203547.00b5c6e0@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714205202.B6309@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:52:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714203547.00b5c6e0@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:36:26PM -0400

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:36:26PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> At 07:04 PM 7/14/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:
>
> >Clearly like Hemingway or clearly like E B White?
>
> Try a bit of each---it can only help.

That's what an alcoholic says about whiskey and beer for hangovers.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:52:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16751
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:52:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB713E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 21:57:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:03:03 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F1r3Q10395 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:53:03 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC0B715A for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:53:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6F1r2O06641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:53:02
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEBDGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <3D32152E.4010600@swbell.net> <20020714192456.A3551@pobox.com>
            <3D321EF2.1050501@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714205302.C6309@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:53:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D321EF2.1050501@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Sun,
              Jul 14, 2002 at 08:01:38PM -0500

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:01:38PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
> Tushar Samant wrote:
>
> >>>>I had a small thermos of Straus Family Dairy wholefat yoghurt with Del
> >>>>Monte canned pineapple chunks, plus a Mrs. Fields bittersweet chocolate
> >>>>chip with walnuts cookie.
> >>>>
> >
> >>>I discovered Stonyfield Farms' whole-fat organic yogurt in February and it
> >>>has made all the difference in my attitude toward plain yogurt. It's so
> >>>good. I have it every afternoon with fruit and Splenda mixed in. I'd like to
> >>>try the vanilla whole-fat sometime but there's too much sugar in it.
> >>>
> >
> >>Ah, yes... this stuff is *fabulous*.  I love the full-fat
> >>varieties sweetened with fruit and honey.  Schnucks only
> >>carries the non-fat Stonyfield Farms yogurt.  Of these, the
> >>carmel is to die for.
> >>
> >
> > Oh my ASS!
>
>
> http://www.etext.org/~rita/just4u


*sigh*  Now everyone will know.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:58:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16759
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:58:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB7194@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:03:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:08:50 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F28mQ11987 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:08:48 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-23.panax.com
          [65.114.190.23]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6F28kj04692 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          22:08:46 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020714203547.00b5c6e0@mail.panax.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140129.00b48eb0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020714123056.B48878@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140129.00b48eb0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020714190419.C2104@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714203547.00b5c6e0@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714220805.00b74c48@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:08:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714205202.B6309@pobox.com>

At 08:52 PM 7/14/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:
>On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:36:26PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> > At 07:04 PM 7/14/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:
> >
> > >Clearly like Hemingway or clearly like E B White?
> >
> > Try a bit of each---it can only help.
>
>That's what an alcoholic says about whiskey and beer for hangovers.

I wouldn't know...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 15:59:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16766
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 15:59:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB719C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:04:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:09:59 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F1xxQ10795 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:59:59 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463587221 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:59:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6F1xx006832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:59:59
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKELKFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714205959.D6309@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:59:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: SFGate Article on Library Trends
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKELKFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>; from
              Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM on Sun, Jul 14,
              2002 at 06:41:38PM -0700

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 06:41:38PM -0700, S Hess wrote:
> >From today's SFGate:
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q5F626341

I expressed this wish 6 years ago on this BBS. It's still
in the back of my mind ...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:01:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16782
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:01:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB71AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:06:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:11:45 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F2BjQ12208 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:11:45 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZ900KQ3Q3KIZ@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:11:45 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEBDGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <3D32152E.4010600@swbell.net> <20020714192456.A3551@pobox.com>
            <3D321EF2.1050501@swbell.net> <20020714205302.C6309@pobox.com>
Message-ID:  <3D322F05.2080408@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:10:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:01:38PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>>Tushar Samant wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>>I had a small thermos of Straus Family Dairy wholefat yoghurt with Del
>>>>>>Monte canned pineapple chunks, plus a Mrs. Fields bittersweet chocolate
>>>>>>chip with walnuts cookie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>I discovered Stonyfield Farms' whole-fat organic yogurt in February and it
>>>>>has made all the difference in my attitude toward plain yogurt. It's so
>>>>>good. I have it every afternoon with fruit and Splenda mixed in. I'd like to
>>>>>try the vanilla whole-fat sometime but there's too much sugar in it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Ah, yes... this stuff is *fabulous*.  I love the full-fat
>>>>varieties sweetened with fruit and honey.  Schnucks only
>>>>carries the non-fat Stonyfield Farms yogurt.  Of these, the
>>>>carmel is to die for.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Oh my ASS!
>>>
>>
>>http://www.etext.org/~rita/just4u
>>
>
>
> *sigh*  Now everyone will know.
>


        They already do, Tush, they already do...



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:01:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16786
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:01:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB71B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:06:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:12:07 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F2C7Q12290 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:12:07 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020715021201.PFVE24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 02:12:01 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEBKGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:14:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE51LBf6AlxHqyijn390000bb1b@hotmail.com>

> I will be expecting some visiting relatives and other guests in the next
> week or so. Would you be so kind as to share some of your favorate "finger
> foods" and preparation methods?
>
> AS

One thing that Melanie introduced to our family has gone over well every
time either one of us has made it: take a slice of the best deli ham, spread
it with cream cheese edge to edge, and wrap a whole dill pickle, preferably
the chilled-not-cooked kind, e.g. Claussen's not Vlasic. Repeat. Chill and
slice. It's weird, but it's good.

Melanie also has made olives in pie-crust -- get a box mix for pie crust,
make it, adding cheese and cayenne pepper, then enrobe olives and bake. I
can get the actual recipe if you want.

I'm trying to think of something which I personally like to make for that
kind of situation, and I realized that other than the pickle thing I've
never really "made" hors d'oeuvres from scratch. At SnowBash 5 I had these
amazingly good pita chips (Stacy's brand) and roasted garlic salsa cream
cheese dip, both from Costco, and I suffered a month-long addiction to them.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com
so happy to be catching up

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:09:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16790
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:09:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB71FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:14:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:20:02 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F2K2Q12827 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:20:02 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust43.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.45]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003925536@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:20:01 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020715004902.1E18485C2@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3231CA.1E6E93B6@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:22:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Adam Hartfield said:
> > MY answer to your question, had I read it in a timely fashion, would have
> > been to see what Coldwater Creek had to offer. So there.
>
> Are they a store? There's no way I'm mailordering clothes for an
> interview, sorry.

Coldwater Creek has a catalogue. Nice.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:12:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16799
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:12:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB720E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:16:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:22:23 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F2MMQ13034 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:22:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E9D7785BD; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:22:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715022221.E9D7785BD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:22:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3231CA.1E6E93B6@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 14,
              2002 10:22: 2 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Adam Hartfield said:
> > > MY answer to your question, had I read it in a timely fashion, would have
> > > been to see what Coldwater Creek had to offer. So there.
> >
> > Are they a store? There's no way I'm mailordering clothes for an
> > interview, sorry.
>
> Coldwater Creek has a catalogue. Nice.

Nice, yes, but squat pudgy people are better off not ordering from
catalogs.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:12:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16806
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:12:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB7217@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:17:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:23:10 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F2N9Q13165 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:23:09 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020715022304.XLUN8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 02:23:04 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGMEBLGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:25:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEELGFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

> I've just been having the creamline yogurt (trader joe's) with some
> all -fruit spread and equal. I should try the Strauss Family yogurt they
> sell. It might be even tastier.
>
> Sandra

The TJ's is good but SF is better, IMHO.

And make the switch to Splenda. You won't regret it.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:13:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16810
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:13:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB721D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:18:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:24:06 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F2O6Q13253 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:24:06 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws229-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.229]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6F2O4q00456
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:24:04 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020714211903.CFE677EF2@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714171500.00b59ec0@mail.panax.com>
            <4.2.2.20020714152444.00a765c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D323212.A2F897A3@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:23:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Brad's birthday
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:
>
> is in a couple of days.  Should we have a party?

Indeed!

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:14:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16814
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:14:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB7227@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:19:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:24:56 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F2OuQ13317 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:24:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7CE537FC2; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:24:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715022455.7CE537FC2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:24:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Brad's birthday
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D323212.A2F897A3@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 14,
              2002  9:23:14 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Betty wrote:
> >
> > is in a couple of days.  Should we have a party?
>
> Indeed!

You can make the cake, Natalie!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:15:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16823
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:15:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB722C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:20:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:25:56 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F2PuQ13385 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:25:56 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws229-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.229]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6F2Psq01060
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:25:54 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020714235739.7681D7EEF@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3232AE.497F2701@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:25:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > > Karen spits.
...
> And I knock things over.

You sound very much like Spencer.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:15:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16827
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:15:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB722E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:20:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:26:02 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F2Q2Q13403 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:26:02 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020715022556.XOMU8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 02:25:56 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEBMGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:28:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715004902.1E18485C2@yellow.rahul.net>

> Are they [Coldwater Creek] a store? There's no way I'm mailordering
clothes for an
> interview, sorry.
>
> Karen

Yes, they've got stores. It looks like there's 2 in the Houston area. Is
that close to you?

http://www.coldwatercreek.com

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:21:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16847
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:21:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00123FA0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:31:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:31:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F2VWQ13843 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:31:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 53B647FC2; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 19:31:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715023128.53B647FC2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:31:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEBMGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 14, 2002 10:28:32 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> > Are they [Coldwater Creek] a store? There's no way I'm mailordering
> clothes for an
> > interview, sorry.
> >
> > Karen
>
> Yes, they've got stores. It looks like there's 2 in the Houston area. Is
> that close to you?

3.5 hours away.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:27:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16854
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:27:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB727E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:32:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:37:56 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F2RuQ13598 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:27:56 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7F57241 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:27:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6F2Rtf07981 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:27:55
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEBDGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <3D32152E.4010600@swbell.net> <20020714192456.A3551@pobox.com>
            <3D321EF2.1050501@swbell.net> <20020714205302.C6309@pobox.com>
            <3D322F05.2080408@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714212755.A7621@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:27:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D322F05.2080408@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Sun,
              Jul 14, 2002 at 09:10:13PM -0500

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 09:10:13PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
> >>>Oh my ASS!
> >>
> >>http://www.etext.org/~rita/just4u
> >
> >
> > *sigh*  Now everyone will know.
>
>
>         They already do, Tush, they already do...

Please address me appropriately: Dr T-Bone, International
Man of Mystery.

I also hope that discussions of full-fat yogurt--surely the
lowest of the low even among words-l topics--die down fast.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:28:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16864
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:28:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00123FD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:39:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:39:07 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F2T7Q13701 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:29:07 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3A26FE4 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:29:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6F2T6O07997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:29:06
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140129.00b48eb0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
            <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020714123056.B48878@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714140129.00b48eb0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020714190419.C2104@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714203547.00b5c6e0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020714205202.B6309@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714220805.00b74c48@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714212906.B7621@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:29:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714220805.00b74c48@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 10:08:38PM -0400

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 10:08:38PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> At 08:52 PM 7/14/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:
> >On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:36:26PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> > > At 07:04 PM 7/14/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:
> > >
> > > >Clearly like Hemingway or clearly like E B White?
> > >
> > > Try a bit of each---it can only help.
> >
> >That's what an alcoholic says about whiskey and beer for hangovers.
>
> I wouldn't know...

That's been clear from the start.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:43:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16881
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:43:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB736D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:48:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13180667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:53:48 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6F2rmQ15707 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          22:53:48 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6F2rl4184716 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul
          2002 22:53:47 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAELOFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:52:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715004204.1A9628597@yellow.rahul.net>

> Adam Hartfield said:
> > who else love anchovies here besides me?
>
> *er* loves anchovies.
>
> Karen

When I lived in LA and temporarily worked 2 days a week in San Mateo (near
SF)....I was cozying up to the new staff and we ordered pizzas for lunch. A
gal wanted to share with me...I told her whatever she ordered would be fine
for me (I'm not very picky). Go figure...she ordered double anchovy...her
favorite. I did choke down one piece.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:44:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16888
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:44:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB7396@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:49:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13180795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:54:43 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6F2shQ15824 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          22:54:43 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6F2sg4239504 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul
          2002 22:54:42 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEELOFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:53:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715004623.42FDF85C3@yellow.rahul.net>

> Rita Chapman said:
> >         It's just that we were all so attached to The New Friend.
>
> So am I. We are talking to each other again and everything.
>
> > It is a little difficult to see him supplanted so suddenly by this
> > suspiciously stained interlop*er*.
> n
> LOL. I still like Leander best, but Interloper is a close second.
>
> I was seeing less and less of My New Friend; *er* has merely taken up
> the slack. Can't I see both of them?
>
> Karen

You can and you ought to.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:46:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16897
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:46:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB73F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:51:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13181050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 22:57:09 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6F2v9Q16068 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          22:57:09 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6F2v84411962 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul
          2002 22:57:08 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIELOFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:55:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714205302.C6309@pobox.com>

> On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:01:38PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
> > Tushar Samant wrote:
> >
> > >>>>I had a small thermos of Straus Family Dairy wholefat
> yoghurt with Del
> > >>>>Monte canned pineapple chunks, plus a Mrs. Fields
> bittersweet chocolate
> > >>>>chip with walnuts cookie.
> > >>>>
> > >
> > >>>I discovered Stonyfield Farms' whole-fat organic yogurt in
> February and it
> > >>>has made all the difference in my attitude toward plain
> yogurt. It's so
> > >>>good. I have it every afternoon with fruit and Splenda mixed
> in. I'd like to
> > >>>try the vanilla whole-fat sometime but there's too much sugar in it.
> > >>>
> > >
> > >>Ah, yes... this stuff is *fabulous*.  I love the full-fat
> > >>varieties sweetened with fruit and honey.  Schnucks only
> > >>carries the non-fat Stonyfield Farms yogurt.  Of these, the
> > >>carmel is to die for.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Oh my ASS!
> >
> >
> > http://www.etext.org/~rita/just4u
>
>
> *sigh*  Now everyone will know.

Tush...what's up with  you and your ass? It's become a focal point.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:52:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16901
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:52:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB768D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:57:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13183023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 23:03:10 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6F33AQ17521 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:03:10 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA27268
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          20:03:06 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 86C7397005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:03:05 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 27263 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2002 03:03:04 -0000
Received: from p22.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.69?) (66.237.73.69) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 15 Jul 2002 03:03:04 -0000
References: <20020715003841.E1B958097@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v0313030fb957e3e71c54@[66.237.73.69]>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:02:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D321975.20406@swbell.net>

>        It's just that we were all so attached to The New Friend.  It
>is a little difficult to see him supplanted so suddenly by
>this suspiciously stained interlop*er*.

>Rita Rouvalis Chapman

Hell, I never cared all that much for The New Friend.  I never liked the
way he chopped down Karen's bushes without even asking her.  Even if it
turned out that she wanted them chopped down, he should have asked first.

Ken Miller
Social Correspondent
The Lostin Times

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:53:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16908
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:53:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB775D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:58:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13183579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 23:04:16 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6F34FQ17800 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:04:16 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA27321
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          20:04:14 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8420497005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:04:14 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 27317 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2002 03:04:13 -0000
Received: from p22.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.69?) (66.237.73.69) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 15 Jul 2002 03:04:13 -0000
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v0313030ab9579d5e89f0@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:04:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714190136.CB8E97E2F@yellow.rahul.net>

>*er* is after me to install Linux on my computer. What flavor do I
> want?
>
>Karen

FreeBSD. ;-)

Ken Miller
Systems Annalist
Babbage Engine Works

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:54:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16912
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:54:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB77B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:59:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13183825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 23:04:49 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe31.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F34nQ17914 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:04:49 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          14 Jul 2002 20:04:43 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
References: <3D31D0A8.780EBD6F@valstar.net>  <3D31F7B1.3020506@swbell.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jul 2002 03:04:43.0987 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[5E83F230:01C22BAC]
Message-ID:  <OE312UyBMo5BQg2ezRy00009e18@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:03:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

How about

Loser
Wanker

and last but not least
My Next Employer
                          ^^

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 16:54:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16916
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 16:54:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB77BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 22:59:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13183846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 23:04:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F34pQ17925 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:04:51 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D666D859E; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:04:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715030424.D666D859E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:04:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEELOFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 14, 2002  7:53:27 pm"

S Hess said:
> > Rita Chapman said:
> > >         It's just that we were all so attached to The New Friend.
> >
> > So am I. We are talking to each other again and everything.
> >
> > > It is a little difficult to see him supplanted so suddenly by this
> > > suspiciously stained interlop*er*.
> > n
> > LOL. I still like Leander best, but Interloper is a close second.
> >
> > I was seeing less and less of My New Friend; *er* has merely taken up
> > the slack. Can't I see both of them?
> >
> > Karen
>
> You can and you ought to.

Thank you!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 17:02:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16962
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 17:02:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB796D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 23:07:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13185091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 23:12:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F3CxQ18888 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:12:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A8D117EA8; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 20:12:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715031258.A8D117EA8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:12:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE312UyBMo5BQg2ezRy00009e18@hotmail.com> from Anne H Toal at
              "Jul 14, 2002 10: 3:33 pm"

Anne H Toal said:
> How about
>
> Loser
> Wanker

Nah.

> and last but not least
> My Next Employer

I don't think so.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 17:11:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16976
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 17:11:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB79BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 23:16:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13185302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 23:21:46 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F3LkQ19415 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:21:46 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6F3Ljni007901 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:21:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020715013823.670A67FC2@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D3197B9.18620.33D0E3A@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020714202126.00a8c2b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:21:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D319C90.10274.34FF4FB@localhost>

At 03:45 PM 7/14/2002 -1000, you wrote:
>On 14 Jul 2002 at 18:38, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > I know. I was just emulating my mentor, BB, who neither spits nor
> > knocks over...
>
>She's a troublemaker. No doubt about it. Every time is see "BB" I think of
>that place of business on Kapiolani Boulevard named Backseat Betty's.

How often do you frequent that place?

BB

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 17:12:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16983
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 17:12:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB79C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 23:16:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13185347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 23:22:23 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F3MNQ19545 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:22:23 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020715032217.JMZO6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:22:17 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020712112248.02531e60@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714201758.020a0a40@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:18:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIEBJGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

Adam Hartfield writes,

>One of the songs on your to-be-mailed-tomorrow mix CDs is from there.

I saw!  I thought that was cool. :)

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 17:34:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17015
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 17:34:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00124454@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 23:44:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13185862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 23:44:25 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F3iPQ21145 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:44:25 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020715034419.KHNR6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:44:19 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714202656.0216b7d0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:40:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712160545.C93253@pobox.com>

Tushar Samant writes,

>My completely irrational guess, based
>on looking at other words, is that wikiwiki is a "low prestige"
>word. It is used by the lower classes. And the people who have
>borrowed it don't understand this.

Ward's idea of wiki wiki web is so vox populi / hoi polloi / egalitarian
that there's no inherent concept of attribution or even
ownership/permanence of what you've written.

I don't know that he knew anything more about it than that it meant "quick"
and is used in an airport bus name, but I don't think he'd mind it being a
"lower class" word -- I think he'd probably like it that way.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 17:34:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17022
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 17:34:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012445B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 23:44:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13185620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 23:44:55 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F3YrQ20404 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:34:54 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BF17306 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:34:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6F3YrU10547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:34:53
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020714205302.C6309@pobox.com>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIELOFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020714223453.A9749@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:34:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIELOFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>; from
              Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM on Sun, Jul 14,
              2002 at 07:55:53PM -0700

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 07:55:53PM -0700, S Hess wrote:
> > > > Oh my ASS!
> > >
> > > http://www.etext.org/~rita/just4u
> >
> > *sigh*  Now everyone will know.
>
> Tush...what's up with  you and your ass? It's become a focal point.

As long as you don't hate me for it ...

This is not new to me you know, I am well-known to have one of the
most overwhelmingly dynamic ASSes in the city. I get anonymous calls
about it all the time, all of them complimentary.

<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=kenji-90E5AA.08162901052002%40virt-reader.news.rcn.net>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 17:45:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17061
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 17:45:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB7ABD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Jul 2002 23:50:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 23:55:52 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6F3tpQ21842 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:55:51 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA04526
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          20:55:50 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 558CA97005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:55:50 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 4522 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2002 03:55:49 -0000
Received: from p22.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.69?) (66.237.73.69) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 15 Jul 2002 03:55:49 -0000
References: <3D30108A.36981835@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130300b955fe472b45@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:55:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207130809530.27879-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

>YOU'll need about an acre per wild horse/burro. Can you annex? Now
>that you are retired, you can try - you have lots of time to spend
>in law suits.
>
>Bethany

"For certain people, after fifty, litigation takes the place of sex."
--Gore Vidal

Ken Miller
Quotational Correspondent
The Lostin Times

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 18:07:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17172
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 18:07:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB7DC9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 0:11:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13188684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 00:17:23 -0400
Received: from mail.infochan.com (mail.infochan.com [208.52.68.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F4HLQ24474 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 00:17:21 -0400
Received: from [192.168.254.13] ([208.138.22.79]) by mail.infochan.com
          (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with
          ESMTP id com for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          23:17:16 -0500
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B957B704.EF13%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:17:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: CD cases
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020713193703.EBBF2818E@yellow.rahul.net>

On 13/7/2002 2:37 PM, Karen Kay wrote:

> Peter--
>
> I saw doubles for .65 and 6's for .89 today.

Thanks! I may yet have to order from one of the sites Pete sent in, but am
first exhausting possibilities for local supply. American-digital had the
doubles for .47 (quantity of 25).

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 18:09:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17180
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 18:09:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB7DD9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 0:13:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13188742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 00:19:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F4JPQ24630 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 00:19:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DF63D7E8B; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:19:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715041924.DF63D7E8B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:19:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: CD cases
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B957B704.EF13%peterlevy@email.com> from Peter Levy at "Jul 14,
              2002 11:17:24 pm"

Peter Levy said:
> On 13/7/2002 2:37 PM, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Peter--
> >
> > I saw doubles for .65 and 6's for .89 today.
>
> Thanks! I may yet have to order from one of the sites Pete sent in, but am
> first exhausting possibilities for local supply. American-digital had the
> doubles for .47 (quantity of 25).

Whoa! That's seriously cheap!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 18:11:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17187
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 18:11:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB7DF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 0:16:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13188844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 00:21:53 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6F4LrQ24819 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          00:21:53 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6F4Lq4423960 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 00:21:52 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEMBFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:20:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v0313030fb957e3e71c54@[66.237.73.69]>

> >        It's just that we were all so attached to The New Friend.  It
> >is a little difficult to see him supplanted so suddenly by
> >this suspiciously stained interlop*er*.
>
> >Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>
> Hell, I never cared all that much for The New Friend.  I never liked the
> way he chopped down Karen's bushes without even asking her.  Even if it
> turned out that she wanted them chopped down, he should have asked first.
>
> Ken Miller
> Social Correspondent
> The Lostin Times

Hark! ....It's a gentleman.

Sch.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 18:13:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17196
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 18:13:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001246CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 0:24:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13188921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 00:24:18 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6F4OIQ25118 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          00:24:18 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6F4OH4153156 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 00:24:17 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEMBFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:23:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Nominated
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

For Best Face Ever: Ed Harris

I just watched my netflix dvd of Pollock. I thought it was fantastic. He and
Marcia Gay Harden. Just terrific...and Harris's face just gets better and
better with time.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 18:15:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17218
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 18:15:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001246E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 0:25:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13189057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 00:25:55 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6F4PtQ25416 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 00:25:55 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA08523
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Sun, 14 Jul 2002
          21:25:54 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E5BE897005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:25:53 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 8519 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2002 04:25:52 -0000
Received: from p22.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.69?) (66.237.73.69) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 15 Jul 2002 04:25:52 -0000
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130300b95639667567@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:25:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEJAFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

>it's 10:55 pacific. I'm leaving in 15 minutes to talk a walk and meet up
>with some friends for dim sum. I'll be buying groceries to prepare for
>hosting my book club tomorrow.
>
>Should I make fruit (sweet crepes) Banana Crepes with fruit sauce?
>
>or
>
>Ham, cheese, asparagus crepes

>Sandra

It's too late now, but you should have made goat's head crepes.

Goat's head: it's not just for breakfast anymore.

Ken Miller
Organoleptics Department
California Institute of Haughty Cuisine

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 18:15:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17230
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 18:15:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB7E28@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 0:20:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13189063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 00:26:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F4QBQ25440 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 00:26:11 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 27D617E63; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:26:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715042611.27D617E63@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:26:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Nominated
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEMBFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 14, 2002  9:23: 1 pm"

S Hess said:
> For Best Face Ever: Ed Harris
>
> I just watched my netflix dvd of Pollock. I thought it was fantastic. He and
> Marcia Gay Harden. Just terrific...and Harris's face just gets better and
> better with time.

Yes.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 18:18:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17241
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 18:18:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB7E2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 0:23:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13189082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 00:29:06 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F4T5Q25561 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 00:29:06 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3CB0E8378; Sun, 14
          Jul 2002 21:29:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715042902.3CB0E8378@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:29:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEMBFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 14, 2002  9:20:36 pm"

S Hess said:
> > >        It's just that we were all so attached to The New Friend.  It
> > >is a little difficult to see him supplanted so suddenly by
> > >this suspiciously stained interlop*er*.
> >
> > >Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> >
> > Hell, I never cared all that much for The New Friend.  I never liked the
> > way he chopped down Karen's bushes without even asking her.  Even if it
> > turned out that she wanted them chopped down, he should have asked first.
> >
> > Ken Miller
> > Social Correspondent
> > The Lostin Times
>
> Hark! ....It's a gentleman.

FWIW, Leander would ask before doing something like that. I do like
that better.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 18:19:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17248
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 18:19:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00124708@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 0:29:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13189090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 00:29:37 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6F4TbQ25577 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          00:29:37 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6F4Ta4234504 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 00:29:36 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEMCFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:28:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130300b95639667567@[198.144.202.197]>

> >Ham, cheese, asparagus crepes
>
> >Sandra
>
> It's too late now, but you should have made goat's head crepes.
>
> Goat's head: it's not just for breakfast anymore.
>
> Ken Miller
> Organoleptics Department
> California Institute of Haughty Cuisine

The crepes turned out perfectly. I had goat once...at a West African
restaurant in Los Angeles. I didn't ask what part of the goat I was eating,
but I doubt it was the head.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 19:15:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA17645
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 19:15:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB801D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 1:19:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13190785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 01:25:31 -0400
Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F5PVQ29700 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 01:25:31 -0400
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com
          (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g6F5PTs50325 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:25:30 -1000 (HST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D319C90.10274.34FF4FB@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D31D050.14351.41A1D4A@localhost>
Date:         Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:26:08 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@FLEX.COM>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020714202126.00a8c2b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On 14 Jul 2002 at 20:21, Betty wrote:

> How often do you frequent that place?

It's plainly visible from that well-traveled street. That's a close as I've gotten.

    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 20:51:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17817
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 20:51:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00124CDA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 3:01:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13193638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 03:01:43 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F71gQ04172 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:01:42 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6F76ZV18067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:06:35
          +0200
References: <20020711201807.56BC880C0@yellow.rahul.net>
            <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEBGGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020715090635.A18045@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:06:35 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEBGGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>; from
              adamh1@ATTBI.COM on Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:45:22PM -0400

=
= MY answer to your question, had I read it in a timely fashion, would have
= been to see what Coldwater Creek had to offer. So there.
=
= --Adam
= adamh1@attbi.com

What a sweetie!

Alec, Adam is right.  You should pay some Coldwater Creek bills.
Their website is a dog, but the paper catalog is ok.  If the
stuff fits, it is much nicer than what Lane Bryant, Avenue, etc.
have on offer.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 21:04:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17837
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 21:04:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB8374@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 3:09:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13193966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 03:14:40 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F7EdQ05047 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:14:39 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6F7JW818083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:19:32
          +0200
References: <v0313030fb957e3e71c54@[66.237.73.69]>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEMBFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020715091932.B18045@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:19:32 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEMBFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>; from
              Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM on Sun, Jul 14,
              2002 at 09:20:36PM -0700

= >
= > Ken Miller
= > Social Correspondent
= > The Lostin Times
=
= Hark! ....It's a gentleman.
=
= Sch.

Why don't you guys date?

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 21:05:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17844
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 21:05:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB837D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 3:10:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13193993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 03:15:36 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F7FaQ05117 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:15:36 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <38DTMXN8>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:15:35 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 38DTMXN7; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:15:30 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D2F1808.FF3E519A@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715090638.03240478@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:15:21 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Kayaking again
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F1902.9ADDA78C@valstar.net>

Saturday we hired a kayak again and I still feel the three hours net time
of paddling. We rested for three quarters of an hour on an island and swam
a little  (little since it was cold). Our fist trip was a circle
north/east/south/west from the place where we hire the kayaks, this time we
went south/east/north/west. The way we hire kayaks on Saturdays we have the
time from 10:30 AM to 2:30 AM, and our two circles define how far we can go
in that time and still enjoy the trip. But we might hire one for a weekend
and bring tent and spleeping bags for expeditions further away. OTOH we are
thinking of buying the necessary stuff for us to take a kayak on the top of
the car so that we are not bound to start out from the doorsteps of the
shop. In any case, we are hooked.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 21:09:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17855
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 21:09:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB838C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 3:14:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13194047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 03:20:13 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F7KDQ05351 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:20:13 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <38DTMX34>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:20:12 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 38DTMX3T; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:20:10 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D2F1808.FF3E519A@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715091528.00b981c0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:20:02 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Ta taaa: the season is here
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D2F1902.9ADDA78C@valstar.net>

Yesterday we took a walk in the forest and brought a basket. This is a very
important decision: if we bring a basket into the forest it there should be
something in it when we come back, everything else is embarassing. We might
have picked enough blueberries to cover the bottom of the basket but that
was not what we wanted. And indeed, the mushrooms were there! Chanterelles,
edible amanitas and russulas and some few others. We celebrated with a swim
in the lake (warmer than the sea on Saturday) and went home and fried
mushrooms. We also made our own pesto for the first time - this needs
experience in how the ingredients react to the working on them, it got far
too smooth. But it tasted good and I have the cold pasta and what is left
of the pesto and the mushrooms for lunch today.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 21:11:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17862
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 21:11:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00124D91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 3:21:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13194070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 03:21:58 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F7LwQ05388 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:21:58 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <38DTMX35>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:21:57 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 38DTMX3Z; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:21:53 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715092127.032405c0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:21:41 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: I'm back
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020712193426.DA8058084@yellow.rahul.net>

12:34 12.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>The black dress was exactly right; I ended up w/ only a briefcase and
>no purse because the purse I was planning to use wasn't where I
>thought it was.
>
>The meeting went very well, I think. Now I wait!

Luck, luck, luck!

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 21:16:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17874
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 21:16:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00124DAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 3:26:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13194143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 03:26:34 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F7QYQ05613 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:26:34 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <38DTMXPD>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:26:33 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 38DTMXPC; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:26:29 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D2EC34E.E7D73CDC@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715092600.00b81130@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:26:21 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: 12 Sucky Hours
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207121538540.5861-100000@idiom.com>

15:39 12.07.2002 -0700 skrev Sharon Ziperovich:
>On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> > Sharon Ziperovich wrote:
> >
> > > The dress sounds great.  Do women usually carry both a purse and a
> > > briefcase?
> >
> > If I carry a briefcase, I'll also be carrying a purse.  They hold
> > different kinds of items.
> >
>   I've always wondered how men carry those items.  don't they feel
>vulnerable and unprepared out in the world without a purse?

I usually carry a small backpack.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 21:19:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17878
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 21:19:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB83B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 3:24:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13194170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 03:30:11 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6F7UBQ05808 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          03:30:11 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6F7UB4284742 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 03:30:11 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEMFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 00:28:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715091932.B18045@yoccoz.multinix.com>

> = > Ken Miller
> = > Social Correspondent
> = > The Lostin Times
> =
> = Hark! ....It's a gentleman.
> =
> = Sch.
>
> Why don't you guys date?
>
> steph

Ken's a nice guy. To my chagrin, I seem to have no experience with
gentlemen. I suspect SF imposes double taxation on decent men; so far, we've
succeeded in detering them from crossing county lines with the exception of
CajunFest.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 21:38:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17898
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 21:38:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB83FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 3:42:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13194456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 03:48:32 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F7mWQ06855 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:48:32 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTNRB>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:48:31 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTNRA; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:48:28 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <20020712191713.B52834@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715094804.0328f9e0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:48:20 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020713050559.53D3B8058@yellow.rahul.net>

22:05 12.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>Tushar Samant said:
> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 07:53:02PM -0400, alyce cresap wrote:
> > > Tushar Samant wrote:
> > > > the suffering, lasted almost 18 months or so ...
> > >
> > > I am glad that everyone is working or in school. Perhaps this is a good
> > > sign for everyone.
> >
> > #1 good thing about it is we won't have giftless "generalists" doing
> > vaguely defined jobs.
>
>HEY! I resemble that remark.

Ditto!

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 21:59:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17920
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 21:59:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB8441@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 4:04:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13194651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 04:10:01 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F8A1Q07933 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 04:10:01 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTNSN>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:10:00 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTNSL; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:09:56 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D30AB47.5C276169@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715100927.03281250@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:09:48 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEJFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

16:03 13.07.2002 -0700 skrev S Hess:
> > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
> >
> > > That's what the boots are for. And you'll need some kind of rain-jacket
> > > and good rainhat.
> >
> > I have boots.  They hiked many miles years ago and have in more recent
> > years been used mainly for xmas-tree-cutting excursions.  And I have a
> > rain jacket.  Or at least I think that's what I'd call it -- a hooded
> > windbreakerish jacket I bought in Anchorage one day when cold rain was
> > falling.  I use it fairly often in winter.  I don't really know what a
> > rainhat is.  But heads don't need protection from rain, imho.  They dry
> > quite easily.  No naked body parts need protection from rain.  It's
> > clothes that do since wet clothes can feel really bad after a while.
> >
> >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
>I love rainhats...especially since I don't want to let the rain deter me
>when I want to go for a walk. I can't stand holding umbrellas when walking
>long distances.
>
>Maybe Bonnie or Clyde can help me. I want to get one of those Maine
>fisherman type rain hats. They look longer on the sides and shorter rim  in
>front to allow for better vision. I've looked online but haven't found any.
>I think they're usually yellow and shiny looking. Any ideas on how I can get
>one?



A souwester?

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 22:06:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA17935
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 22:06:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB845F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 4:11:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13194751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 04:16:38 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F8GcQ08287 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 04:16:38 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTNTB>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:16:37 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTNTA; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:16:35 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207131929470.10420-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715101544.00b86b20@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:16:27 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: how long is a book?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D303319.30972.38B5A49@localhost>

14:03 13.07.2002 -1000 skrev Michael E. Macmillan:
>On 13 Jul 2002 at 19:31, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>
> > Assuming a <normal> (as Natalie uses the word)
> > textbook length ms., how many words will it be? I think we (I have
> > a co-author) will produce a ms. of 300-350 pages.
>
>Depends on whether you use a lot of big lawyer words or mostly small words
>that I can understand. Assuming normal
>margins and type size that's not tiny, use a guideline of 250 to 275 words
>per page. Three hundred pages would work out
>to somewhere about 75,000 to 80,000 words.

This reminds me of one of the <good> words from Vienna:

Donaudampfschiffartsgesellschaft

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 22:12:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA17942
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 22:12:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB8486@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 4:17:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13194910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 04:22:44 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F8MiQ08814 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 04:22:44 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTNTN>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:22:43 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTNTM; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:22:38 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715102156.00ba0c20@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:22:30 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Just call me "Trapper John"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <a1.2a3ce9a5.2a6246b2@aol.com>

23:14 13.07.2002 -0400 skrev Evelyn Duncan:
>http://www.bloggerheads.com/mash_quiz/

I must have lied somewhere.

Father John Francis Patrick Mulcahy

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun  8 22:13:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA17949
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 8 Jun 1960 22:13:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00124EFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 4:23:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13194926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 04:23:41 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6F8NfQ08858 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 04:23:41 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTNTT>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:23:40 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTNTS; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:23:34 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D30AD5F.FDC5172C@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715102305.00ba0d68@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:23:26 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714035926.7281F83B4@yellow.rahul.net>

20:59 13.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:

>The bloodstain is incredibly messy--he is a mess of scabs to start
>with, and I watched him acquire another one tonight,  when he cut his
>thumb on a sword.

This spunds like quite a party.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 00:40:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18187
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 00:40:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB8771@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 6:45:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13163277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 06:50:41 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FAofQ16826 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:50:41 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTN7F>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:50:40 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTN7D; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:50:25 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <20020714190136.CB8E97E2F@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715124718.00ba1738@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:50:18 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEKNFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

14:08 14.07.2002 -0700 skrev S Hess:
> >
> > *er* is after me to install Linux on my computer. What flavor do I
> >  want?
> >
> > Karen
>
>Refresh me....why are we calling him *er*?
>
>Tell him to back off.

I made my computer a dual-boot (with soft partitioning) and have had this
kind of setup (actually through three computers) for some years. Today I
removed Linux since I realized that I never came around to using it
seriously enough to let it take up almost half my harddisk. For various
silly reasons I can not remove the soft partitioning and do not wish to
reformat the part where I already have my windows-stuff, so I have now
three (two large, one small) windows-partitions on my harddisk. But at
least I have space so that I can breathe again.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 00:43:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18193
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 00:43:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB8783@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 6:47:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13163324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 06:53:16 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FArGQ16971 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:53:16 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTN7L>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:53:15 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTN7J; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:53:12 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715125216.031e0ca8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:53:06 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Fw:      Carry a big stick!!!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <005301c22b7f$07f28350$0100a8c0@knowleshollow>

17:39 14.07.2002 -0400 skrev Alan Wild:
>A big stick is good, a sword better, and a Colt 1911 perhaps best, IMHO  ;-)
>
> > A scuffle ensued in which the man fended off the robbers with the sword
>and
> > the robbers and the resident threw household items at each other, Manke
> > said.

It would have been better if they had shot each other?

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 00:53:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18212
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 00:53:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB87D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 6:58:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13163547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 07:04:03 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FB42Q30954 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:04:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws81-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.81]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6FB3xq01058
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:04:00 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D31D0A8.780EBD6F@valstar.net>  <3D31F7B1.3020506@swbell.net>
            <OE312UyBMo5BQg2ezRy00009e18@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D32AC17.3DB6D72F@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:03:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Have we established whether it's *er* or *er?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 00:54:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18219
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 00:54:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB87DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 6:59:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13163586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 07:04:38 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FB4cQ30985 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:04:38 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTN81>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:04:37 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTN8D; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:04:34 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715125408.03203a68@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:04:27 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Er's yard
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714184149.00a1ed70@pop3.norton.antivirus>

18:42 14.07.2002 -0400 skrev bonniev:
>Is part of his yard raked sand and stones?  I'd like that.  You could love
>a guy just for that alone.  Does he have peace in his soul?  Does he meditate?

There is a Japanese garden in the Schönbrunn. According to a sign there it
was made in 1913 and rediscovered not so many years ago. Japanese
guardeners have restored it, and yes, there is a sand-and-stone part.

(And I did go to a zendo in Vienna for meditation even if I had to leave
quietly in the first break since I had problems sitting still.)

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 01:27:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18269
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 01:27:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB88E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 7:31:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13164414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 07:37:15 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe15.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.119]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FBbFQ01459 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:37:15 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          15 Jul 2002 04:37:09 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jul 2002 11:37:09.0698 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[F4632220:01C22BF3]
Message-ID:  <OE15SmixLh55oVAEbZs0000c2c0@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:38:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sandra:

>To my chagrin, I seem to have no experience with gentlemen.

Give it a whirl. They are the most deliciously dangerous kind. Others need
not apply.

AS "Gentlemen Only"

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 01:30:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18291
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 01:30:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB88F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 7:35:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13164431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 07:40:49 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe48.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.20]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FBenQ01598 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:40:49 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          15 Jul 2002 04:40:44 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jul 2002 11:40:44.0199 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[743D6370:01C22BF4]
Message-ID:  <OE48wGmAf0MjkatwD430000c48d@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:42:18 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I suspect SF imposes double taxation on decent men; so far, we've
succeeded in detering them from crossing county lines with the exception of
CajunFest.

>Sandra

Bull. This is where self-fulfilling prophecies play out themselves to the
hilt.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 01:50:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18331
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 01:50:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB89A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 7:54:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13164757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 08:00:27 -0400
Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FC0QQ02856 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:00:27 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.115.146f657c (4004) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 08:00:16 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <115.146f657c.2a64134f@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:00:15 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Just call me "Trapper John"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/15/2002 3:22:52 AM Central Daylight Time,
Espen.Ore@NB.NO writes:

<<
23:14 13.07.2002 -0400 skrev Evelyn Duncan:
>http://www.bloggerheads.com/mash_quiz/

I must have lied somewhere.

Father John Francis Patrick Mulcahy

>>

Most people (on the list where I got this) are the dear father.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Friends help you move; real friends help you move bodies.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 01:53:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18338
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 01:53:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB89DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 7:58:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13164825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 08:04:06 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FC45Q03112 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:04:05 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6FC8x518661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:08:59
          +0200
References: <20020715091932.B18045@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEMFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020715140858.A18634@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:08:58 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEMFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>; from
              Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM on Mon, Jul 15,
              2002 at 12:28:54AM -0700

=
= Ken's a nice guy.

Is this a reason not to date him?  I did not say become instant
soulmates.  I did not say spend all your free time together.  If
you got together once a month would the drive kill you?

steph
in for a penny in for a pound

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 01:58:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18345
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 01:58:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB8A13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 8:03:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13164939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 08:08:53 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FC8qQ03418 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:08:52 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6FCDk318679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:13:46
          +0200
References: <a1.2a3ce9a5.2a6246b2@aol.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020715102156.00ba0c20@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020715141345.B18634@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:13:45 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Just call me "Trapper John"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715102156.00ba0c20@victoria.nb.no>; from
              Espen.Ore@NB.NO on Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 10:22:30AM +0200

= >http://www.bloggerheads.com/mash_quiz/
=

Hmmmm.  Klinger.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 02:01:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18357
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 02:01:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001256D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 8:11:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13164998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 08:11:12 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe67.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.202]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FCBCQ03567 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:11:12 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          15 Jul 2002 05:11:06 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
References:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEMCFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jul 2002 12:11:06.0740 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[B28F1340:01C22BF8]
Message-ID:  <OE67qiwn9CItzocvbeR000059c3@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:09:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Goat's Head Soup
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> The crepes turned out perfectly. I had goat once...at a West African
> restaurant in Los Angeles. I didn't ask what part of the goat I was
eating,
> but I doubt it was the head.

Goat is pretty common in Mexican cuisine. Down here in south Texas kid goat
is considered something of a delicacy. Regarding goats' heads, they are
readily available in all the local supermarkets. Graham ordered one in
Progreso once. I couldn't stomach it--too much of the wide staring eyes--but
he seemed to take it with no trouble. I have never seen him order the cabeza
de cabra again, so it was probably one of those "I'm stronger than this"
culinary moments.

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 02:17:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18369
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 02:17:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB8B9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 8:22:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13165760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 08:27:57 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FCRvQ05306 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:27:57 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18465 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:27:57 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 15 Jul 02
          08:27:57 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 15 Jul 02 08:27:42 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g6FCRvQ05308
Message-ID:  <3D32877C.9884.286A35@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:27:41 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      back from Ottawa, news from Ontario
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I'm back from a wonderful few days in Ottawa (actually, most of it
spent hiking in The Gatineau).  I don't know if the landmark Ontario
Superior Court ruling has been mentioned here yet.

BrP

The Globe and Mail says:


 Ruling sanctions same-sex unions

Definition of marriage violates Charter, 'inconsistent with
constitutional values'

 By GAY ABBATE AND KIM LUNMAN
  Saturday, July 13, 2002 – Print Edition,
  Page A1

 TORONTO and OTTAWA -- Canada must rethink the legal
definition of marriage after an Ontario court ruled yesterday
that the prohibition against legally sanctioned gay and lesbian
unions is discriminatory and unconstitutional.

 The landmark decision, which is expected to have nationwide and
even international ramifications, gives Parliament two years in
which to produce a new designation that includes same-sex
couples.

 The three Ontario Superior Court judges, who determined that the
present definition of marriage violates the Canadian Charter of
Rights and Freedoms, said they suspended their ruling for this
period to give members of Parliament the necessary time to
consider a new definition that better reflects Canadian values.

 If Parliament fails to comply with the judicial ruling, the Ontario law
will have to be rewritten and gays and lesbians will be allowed to
marry.

 The federal government is reviewing the court ruling, said Patrick
Charette, a spokesman for the Department of Justice. "We will
have to examine the decision very clearly before the government
decides whether there is sufficient ground to appeal the decision,"
he said. "This is a very important decision. We'll have to evaluate
our options."

  The government has 15 days to seek leave to appeal the ruling.
Two years ago, when then justice minister Anne McLellan
introduced a law that gave same-sex couples the same benefits
and obligations as common-law heterosexual couples, she took
pains to ensure that the traditional definition of marriage was left
intact. That was thrown into question by yesterday's ruling.

 Gay and lesbian advocates lauded the decision. But the 170-page
court ruling is sure to rekindle political debate. Two other lawsuits
over gay marriages are in the courts in British Columbia and
Quebec. The Supreme Court will likely end up hearing the B.C.,
Quebec and Ontario cases together, said a lawyer who had argued
in the Ontario case that the law is unconstitutional.

 Yesterday's ruling stems from a constitutional challenge brought
by eight gay couples and a Toronto church that has championed
the rights of homosexuals.

 In January, 2001, Rev. Brent Hawkes of the Metropolitan
Community Church married one gay and one lesbian couple using
an ancient Christian tradition of reading banns -- asking in church
on three Sundays if anyone objects to a couple's marriage -- to
avoid having to obtain marriage licences issued by the city.

 When the City of Toronto refused to register the two marriages, the
couples, the church, and six other couples who had also been
refused licences launched a lawsuit to have their unions legally
recognized.

 One of the couples married by Rev. Hawkes was Joe Varnell and
his partner, Kevin Bourassa. "We're no longer second-class
citizens in this country," a delighted Mr. Varnell said after the ruling
was handed down.

 No written statute defines a marriage. The federal government
relies on a definition that has been accepted as practice for so long
it has become part of common law. It was this unofficial definition
that the judges declared unconstitional. That means that Ontario, if
it so chooses, can now register same-sex marriages without
waiting for Parliament to reword the definition.

 In Ottawa yesterday, New Democrat Svend Robinson, an openly
gay MP, called on the federal government to recognize same-sex
marriages.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 02:27:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18376
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 02:27:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB8C71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 8:31:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13166397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 08:37:34 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FCbXQ06825 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:37:33 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-121.panax.com
          [65.114.190.121]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6FCbWj15552 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          08:37:32 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020714184149.00a1ed70@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  8bit
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020715083503.00a071b0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:37:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er's yard
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715125408.03203a68@victoria.nb.no>

>There is a Japanese garden in the Schönbrunn. According to a sign there it
>was made in 1913 and rediscovered not so many years ago. Japanese
>guardeners have restored it, and yes, there is a sand-and-stone part.

Here on our island we also have a garden with a raked sand and stone
part.  It's an azalea garden, open to the public.  Very nice.

>(And I did go to a zendo in Vienna for meditation even if I had to leave
>quietly in the first break since I had problems sitting still.)
>Espen

Ah, what a failure.  You must recapture peace in your soul.  You are
dreaming of paddling and swimming when your mind should be quiet.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 02:45:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18418
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 02:45:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB8DD7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 8:49:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 08:55:25 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FCtPQ09868 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:55:25 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT3FX>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:55:24 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT3FW; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:55:21 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <20020715004204.1A9628597@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715145423.00bc8b08@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:55:09 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAELOFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

19:52 14.07.2002 -0700 skrev S Hess:
> > Adam Hartfield said:
> > > who else love anchovies here besides me?
> >
> > *er* loves anchovies.
> >
> > Karen
>
>When I lived in LA and temporarily worked 2 days a week in San Mateo (near
>SF)....I was cozying up to the new staff and we ordered pizzas for lunch. A
>gal wanted to share with me...I told her whatever she ordered would be fine
>for me (I'm not very picky). Go figure...she ordered double anchovy...her
>favorite. I did choke down one piece.

I love anchoivies - both the Mediterranean and the Scandinavian kind. The
Scandinavian is best with hard boiled eggs.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 02:46:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18422
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 02:46:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB8DF0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 8:51:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 08:56:55 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FCutQ10026 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:56:55 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT3F9>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:56:54 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT3F7; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:56:50 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <20020712160545.C93253@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715145627.031e2738@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:56:44 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714202656.0216b7d0@mail.istori.com>

20:40 14.07.2002 -0700 skrev Peter Kaminski:
>Tushar Samant writes,
>
>>My completely irrational guess, based
>>on looking at other words, is that wikiwiki is a "low prestige"
>>word. It is used by the lower classes. And the people who have
>>borrowed it don't understand this.
>
>Ward's idea of wiki wiki web is so vox populi / hoi polloi / egalitarian
>that there's no inherent concept of attribution or even
>ownership/permanence of what you've written.
>
>I don't know that he knew anything more about it than that it meant "quick"
>and is used in an airport bus name, but I don't think he'd mind it being a
>"lower class" word -- I think he'd probably like it that way.

But isn't it pidgin?

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 02:48:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18426
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 02:48:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB8E16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 8:53:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 08:58:41 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FCwfQ10288 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:58:41 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT3GH>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:58:40 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT3GG; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:58:36 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEJAFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715145725.00b9eaa8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:58:30 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130300b95639667567@[198.144.202.197]>

21:25 14.07.2002 -0700 skrev Bookrat:
> >it's 10:55 pacific. I'm leaving in 15 minutes to talk a walk and meet up
> >with some friends for dim sum. I'll be buying groceries to prepare for
> >hosting my book club tomorrow.
> >
> >Should I make fruit (sweet crepes) Banana Crepes with fruit sauce?
> >
> >or
> >
> >Ham, cheese, asparagus crepes
>
> >Sandra
>
>It's too late now, but you should have made goat's head crepes.
>
>Goat's head: it's not just for breakfast anymore.

I served smoked and steamed sheep's head once for a Christmas breakfast
with lots of family and in laws of various degrees attending.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 02:50:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18430
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 02:50:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00125B40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 9:00:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13167704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 09:00:07 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FD07Q10474 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:00:07 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT3GS>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:00:06 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT3GR; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:00:04 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <v03130300b95639667567@[198.144.202.197]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715145902.00bce630@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:59:58 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEMCFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

21:28 14.07.2002 -0700 skrev S Hess:
> > >Ham, cheese, asparagus crepes
> >
> > >Sandra
> >
> > It's too late now, but you should have made goat's head crepes.
> >
> > Goat's head: it's not just for breakfast anymore.
> >
> > Ken Miller
> > Organoleptics Department
> > California Institute of Haughty Cuisine
>
>The crepes turned out perfectly. I had goat once...at a West African
>restaurant in Los Angeles. I didn't ask what part of the goat I was eating,
>but I doubt it was the head.

Kid (from goat) is very good. We ate katsikaki in Zachlorou (the hotel
w/train statiuon on the Peloponnes).

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 02:53:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18434
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 02:53:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB8E9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 8:57:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13168007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 09:03:28 -0400
Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FD3RQ11031 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:03:27 -0400
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com
          (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g6FD3Qs45417 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:03:26 -1000 (HST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020714202656.0216b7d0@mail.istori.com>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D323BAC.30717.22D899@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:04:11 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@FLEX.COM>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715145627.031e2738@victoria.nb.no>

On 15 Jul 2002 at 14:56, Espen Ore wrote:

> But isn't it pidgin?

No.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 03:02:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA18455
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 03:02:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB8F47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 9:07:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13168459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 09:13:00 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FDD0Q12109 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:13:00 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT3HP>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:12:59 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT3H3; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:12:57 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020715145627.031e2738@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714202656.0216b7d0@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715151227.00bd0048@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:12:50 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D323BAC.30717.22D899@localhost>

03:04 15.07.2002 -1000 skrev Michael E. Macmillan:
>On 15 Jul 2002 at 14:56, Espen Ore wrote:
>
> > But isn't it pidgin?
>
>No.

It was at least tempting to believe that it was.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 03:06:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA18462
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 03:06:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00125CE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 9:16:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13168595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 09:16:42 -0400
Received: from mail.infochan.com (mail.infochan.com [208.52.68.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FDGfQ12417 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:16:41 -0400
Received: from [192.168.254.13] ([208.138.22.79]) by mail.infochan.com
          (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with
          ESMTP id com for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          08:16:37 -0500
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B958356E.EFCE%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:16:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: CD cases
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715041924.DF63D7E8B@yellow.rahul.net>

On 14/7/2002 11:19 PM, Karen Kay wrote:

>>> I saw doubles for .65 and 6's for .89 today.
>>
>> Thanks! I may yet have to order from one of the sites Pete sent in, but am
>> first exhausting possibilities for local supply. American-digital had the
>> doubles for .47 (quantity of 25).
>
> Whoa! That's seriously cheap!

Yabbut I'm yet to include S&H, which comes to around $11.00, unless the
order is over $40 in which case they forgo the $5 handling. If I just order
the 25 doubles the unit cost is around .90 :-<
--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 03:06:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA18469
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 03:06:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB8F81@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 9:11:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13168599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 09:16:51 -0400
Received: from mail.infochan.com (mail.infochan.com [208.52.68.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FDGnQ12444 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:16:50 -0400
Received: from [192.168.254.13] ([208.138.22.79]) by mail.infochan.com
          (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with
          ESMTP id com for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          08:16:45 -0500
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B9583576.EFCE%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:16:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEMCFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

On 14/7/2002 11:28 PM, S Hess wrote:

>>> Ham, cheese, asparagus crepes
>>
>>> Sandra
>>
>> It's too late now, but you should have made goat's head crepes.
>>
>> Goat's head: it's not just for breakfast anymore.
>>
>> Ken Miller
>> Organoleptics Department
>> California Institute of Haughty Cuisine
>
> The crepes turned out perfectly. I had goat once...at a West African
> restaurant in Los Angeles. I didn't ask what part of the goat I was eating,
> but I doubt it was the head.

Goat head is used to make a soup called 'Mannish Water' in Jamaica. It's
reputed to be something of a tonic. It's delicious.
--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 03:15:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19505
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 03:15:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB9026@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 9:19:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13168956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 09:24:58 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FDOwQ13551 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:24:58 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6FDOvc19711 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          08:24:57 -0500 (CDT)
References: <3D2F1808.FF3E519A@maynor.net> 
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020715091528.00b981c0@victoria.nb.no>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001301c22c03$3738f980$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:26:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Ta taaa: the season is here
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Yesterday we took a walk in the forest and brought a basket. This is a
very
> important decision: if we bring a basket into the forest it there
should be
> something in it when we come back, everything else is embarassing. We
might
> have picked enough blueberries to cover the bottom of the basket but
that
> was not what we wanted. And indeed, the mushrooms were there!
Chanterelles,
> edible amanitas and russulas and some few others. We celebrated with a
swim
> in the lake (warmer than the sea on Saturday) and went home and fried
> mushrooms. We also made our own pesto for the first time - this needs
> experience in how the ingredients react to the working on them, it got
far
> too smooth. But it tasted good and I have the cold pasta and what is
left
> of the pesto and the mushrooms for lunch today.
>
> Espen

What we have here is . . .

a couple of happy campers.

<sigh>

                - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 03:39:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19914
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 03:39:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB9279@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 9:44:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13170359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 09:49:37 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FDnbQ16851 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:49:37 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-158.panax.com
          [63.163.41.158]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6FDnLj26501 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          09:49:21 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020715102156.00ba0c20@victoria.nb.no>
            <a1.2a3ce9a5.2a6246b2@aol.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020715102156.00ba0c20@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020715094840.00a0eb40@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:48:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Just call me "Trapper John"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715141345.B18634@yoccoz.multinix.com>

>= >http://www.bloggerheads.com/mash_quiz/
>=
>
>Hmmmm.  Klinger.
>steph

I'm Lieutenant Colonel Henry Blake


   --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 03:42:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19921
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 03:42:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB929C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 9:46:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13169881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 09:52:15 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FDgEQ15838 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:42:14 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6FDgEUh002052 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:42:14 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207150941570.16159-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:42:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Just call me "Trapper John"
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <115.146f657c.2a64134f@aol.com>

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>Most people (on the list where I got this) are the dear father.

How nice for them!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 04:31:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20011
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 04:31:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB97F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:36:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13174720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 10:41:56 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FEfuQ28195 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:41:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E5C7F7DD0; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 07:41:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715144154.E5C7F7DD0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:41:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: back from Ottawa, news from Ontario
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D32877C.9884.286A35@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              15, 2002  8:27:41 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> I'm back from a wonderful few days in Ottawa (actually, most of it
> spent hiking in The Gatineau).  I don't know if the landmark Ontario
> Superior Court ruling has been mentioned here yet.

Not here, but I saw it yesterday and immediately thought of you, and
how great for you that you were when the ruling came down.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 04:42:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20076
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 04:42:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB98E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:46:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 10:52:11 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FEqAQ29760 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:52:10 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-65.panax.com
          [65.114.190.65]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6FEq9j06148 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          10:52:09 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D32877C.9884.286A35@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020715105025.00a07840@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:51:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: back from Ottawa, news from Ontario
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715144154.E5C7F7DD0@yellow.rahul.net>

>Paul R. Barfoot said:
> > I'm back from a wonderful few days in Ottawa (actually, most of it
> > spent hiking in The Gatineau).  I don't know if the landmark Ontario
> > Superior Court ruling has been mentioned here yet.
>
>Not here, but I saw it yesterday and immediately thought of you, and
>how great for you that you were when the ruling came down.
>Karen

Yes, Paul, good news.  And this from Sunday's newspaper:

"Portland [Maine] has the third-largest concentration of lesbian couples in
the United States, after Santa Fe, N.M., and Burlington, Vt. It also has
the tenth-largest concentration of gay male couples in the nation,
according to a recent analysis of Census 2000 statistics published in
Population Today by the Population Reference Bureau."

From:  http://www.pressherald.com/news/local/020714couples.shtml


   --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 04:43:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20083
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 04:43:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00126678@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:53:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 10:53:17 -0400
Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FErHQ29913 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:53:17 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.13a.2be8c84 (22683) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 10:53:08 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m24.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.1]) by
          air-in04.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILININ44-0715105307;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:53:07 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <0CE68DD9.70E53886.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:53:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Goat's Head Soup
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:



>he seemed to take it with no trouble. I have never seen him order the cabeza
>de cabra again, so it was probably one of those "I'm stronger than this"
>culinary moments.
>

When I was in Peace Corps in Chad, we on the WellsTeam were frequently given goats.  Tough, stringy old bastards, too.  This is where the pressure cooker came in handy.  Got used to it, but chickens became a delicacy....have hade baby goat in portugese restaurants in Europe, too.  In Iran I recall eating sheeps head soup called "calipachay" or something like that.  I remember the name because I don't want to eat it again if avoidable -- though I'll do anything in the name of politeness.

In Greece, once, my then-wife and I were passing by a restaurant in Athens where everyone was eating some delicious-looking soup called (Rita?) patsis, (or something) turned out to be tripe.  I didn't mind, but my pseudo macro-biotic jewish ex did.

jbh
>-aht
>


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 04:46:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20093
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 04:46:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001266D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:57:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 10:57:01 -0400
Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FEv1Q30298 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:57:01 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b4.d91d80 (16227) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 10:56:52 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m26.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.3]) by
          air-in02.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILININ23-0715105651;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:56:51 2000
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <148B5D89.5AE9C676.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:56:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO> wrote:


>I love anchoivies - both the Mediterranean and the Scandinavian kind. The
>Scandinavian is best with hard boiled eggs.
>
Me too.  And I like both.  Once in Lubumbashi my friend and I ordered some from the Greek pilots who flew frequently to J0'burg.  They brought us a number 10 can of them.  That, my friends, is a hell of a lot of anchois.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 04:46:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20094
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 04:46:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001266D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:57:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 10:56:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FEuwQ30257 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:56:58 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CAA9F8021; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 07:56:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715145657.CAA9F8021@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:56:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715124718.00ba1738@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 15, 2002 12:50:18 pm"

Espen Ore said:
> 14:08 14.07.2002 -0700 skrev S Hess:
> > >
> > > *er* is after me to install Linux on my computer. What flavor do I
> > >  want?
> > >
> > > Karen
> >
> >Refresh me....why are we calling him *er*?
> >
> >Tell him to back off.
>
> I made my computer a dual-boot (with soft partitioning) and have had this
> kind of setup (actually through three computers) for some years. Today I
> removed Linux since I realized that I never came around to using it
> seriously enough to let it take up almost half my harddisk. For various
> silly reasons I can not remove the soft partitioning and do not wish to
> reformat the part where I already have my windows-stuff, so I have now
> three (two large, one small) windows-partitions on my harddisk. But at
> least I have space so that I can breathe again.

I think that my biggest challenge will be making space enough to use a
dual-boot partition. I have a lot of crap on my system.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 04:47:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20100
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 04:47:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB9945@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:51:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 10:57:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FEvPQ30385 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:57:26 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2DA0E7F68; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 07:57:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715145722.2DA0E7F68@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:57:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D32AC17.3DB6D72F@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 15,
              2002  6: 3:51 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Have we established whether it's *er* or *er?

It's *er*, of course.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 04:48:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20104
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 04:48:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB996A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:53:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 10:58:52 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FEwqQ30592 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:58:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3BAB17F3A; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 07:58:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715145851.3BAB17F3A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:58:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715145627.031e2738@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 15, 2002  2:56:44 pm"

Espen Ore said:
> But isn't it pidgin?

I don't think so.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 04:52:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20109
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 04:52:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB99C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:57:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13175891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 11:03:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FF31Q31234 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:03:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2DB2C7C0D; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 08:03:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715150301.2DB2C7C0D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:03:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Speaking of *er*...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I have discovered his dirty little secret: his back yard is NOT
pristine. He said he keeps the front yard up for the neighbors. (Which
I understand--there's a lot of peer pressure in my neighborhood, too.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 04:56:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20116
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 04:56:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001267A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:06:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 11:06:03 -0400
Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FF63Q31603 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:06:03 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b2.d92617 (16238) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 11:05:52 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m29.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.6]) by
          air-in03.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILININ32-0715110552;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:05:52 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <21DCD7B6.7264C668.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:05:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Synchronicity?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:


>
>I think I've always seen it Kirman.
>
It's pronouced kehr-man.  I guess you can transliterate it from Farsi however you want, though.  Probably depends on whether or not you're a brit.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 04:57:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20126
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 04:57:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB9A2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:01:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 11:07:31 -0400
Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FF7VQ31857 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:07:31 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.c2.35cd89a (16238) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 11:07:21 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m29.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.6]) by
          air-in03.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILININ32-0715110721;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:07:21 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <620AE5A8.4D1695A9.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:07:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET> wrote:

 My summer class came to just under $700, plus
>$58 to park.
>
A bargain for the parking by UKY standards, I tell you.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 04:57:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20129
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 04:57:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001267D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:07:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 11:07:31 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FF7VQ31862 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:07:31 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14350 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:07:30 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 15 Jul 02
          11:07:31 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 15 Jul 02 11:07:17 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D32AC17.3DB6D72F@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 15,
            2002  6: 3:51 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D32ACDB.19667.66B901@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:07:07 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715145722.2DA0E7F68@yellow.rahul.net>

I discovered an annoying little quirk of Word. Putting an asterisk
before and after a set of characters is a cue for Word to make
those characters bold.  I was typing something the other day in
which i wanted the asterisks to appear and it took a bit of fiddling to
persuade word that I didn't just want it in bold.

BrP


> Natalie Maynor said:
> > Have we established whether it's *er* or *er?
>
> It's *er*, of course.
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 05:04:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20149
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 05:04:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB9ADB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:08:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13176664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 11:14:29 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FFETQ00658 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:14:29 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc70 ([204.127.198.53]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020715151424.GVED29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:14:24 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc70; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:14:21 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020715151424.GVED29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:14:21 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I think I had pizza there with Emily once. It was really
>good, but a bit thinner-crusted than what I'm used to.
>--Adam
>adamh1@attbi.com
>who else love anchovies here besides me?

Thin crust isn't for everyone. Modern pizza, also in New
Haven and ranked up there with Pepe's, does the thin
crust too but it's a little thicker than Pepe's. It has
the same flavor though and that's just as important.

Anchovies are good on pizza. They're better when they're
accompianed by a hunk of sharp provolone (the kind that
makes the roof of my mouth itchy) on a slice of Italian
bread from Appicella's.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 05:13:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20180
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 05:13:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001269A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:23:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 11:23:07 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FFN6Q02744 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:23:06 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id IAA26349 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          08:23:06 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207150818010.18823-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:23:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE51LBf6AlxHqyijn390000bb1b@hotmail.com>

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Amy Burns Short wrote:

> I will be expecting some visiting relatives and other guests in the next
> week or so. Would you be so kind as to share some of your favorate "finger
> foods" and preparation methods?

Goat cheese and roasted veggies (msuhroom, zucchini, eggplant, red
peppers, and sun dried tomatoes) on thin toasted french bread.  I just
made these yesterday afternoon.  It was not as much trouble as I thought
it was and I loved to hear those pleased little "oooh!" sounds when people
saw them on table.

Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 05:15:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20192
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 05:15:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB9CCD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:20:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 11:25:46 -0400
Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (imo-r09.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.105]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FFPkQ03192 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:25:46 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.58.3627141 (16216) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 11:25:32 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m14.webmail.aol.com [64.12.180.130]) by
          air-in01.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ14-0715112532;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:25:32 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <01A24CB4.3EBBCA8E.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:24:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Ta taaa: the season is here
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO> wrote:

But it tasted good and I have the cold pasta and what is left
>of the pesto and the mushrooms for lunch today.
>
All this food talk is making me hungry.  I'm going to head over to the Ag School and nuke my lunch: stir-fry beef and broccoli.  Homemade of course.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 05:16:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20196
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 05:16:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB9CEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:20:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 11:26:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FFQTQ03339 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:26:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws89-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.89]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6FFQQq09471
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:26:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020715145722.2DA0E7F68@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D32E99E.CC5DA60E@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:26:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > Have we established whether it's *er* or *er?
>
> It's *er*, of course.

Then I naturally withdraw my suggestion of Buster.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 05:18:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20201
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 05:18:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB9D24@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:23:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 11:28:42 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6FFSgQ03680 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:28:42 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA06360
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          08:28:40 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id ECEC897005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:24:48 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 5411 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2002 15:24:48 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 15 Jul 2002 15:24:48 -0000
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEMBFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>; from    
            Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM on Sun, Jul 14,
            2002 at 09:20:36PM -0700 <v0313030fb957e3e71c54@[66.237.73.69]>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEMBFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130300b958885076f3@[66.237.73.69]>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:24:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715091932.B18045@yoccoz.multinix.com>

>Why don't you guys date?
>
>steph

To paraphrase Billie Holliday: don't threaten me with dating, baby.

Ken Miller
Mencken School of Opsigamy

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 05:19:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20209
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 05:19:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB9D38@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:24:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 11:29:39 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FFTcQ03780 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:29:38 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws89-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.89]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6FFTaq10415
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:29:36 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020715151424.GVED29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D32EA5C.8467751D@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:29:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lisa Alfieri wrote:

> Thin crust isn't for everyone. Modern pizza, also in New

I hated the advent of fat-crusted pizza.  Actually, its advent was ok as
an option, but I hate that it seems to be so much the norm now, even in
frozen grocery-store pizzas.  One reason I love these little Smart Ones
pizzas is that they have thin crust.  I like bread/crust just fine in
general but for some reason prefer not to have much of it on pizzas.  I
like the old "thin and crispy."

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 05:25:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20218
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 05:25:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EB9DB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:29:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 11:35:16 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6FFZEQ04658 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:35:14 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA07744
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          08:35:09 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 82F499700A for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:35:07 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 7724 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2002 15:35:06 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 15 Jul 2002 15:35:06 -0000
References: <20020715145722.2DA0E7F68@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130304b9589b4decd4@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:34:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D32E99E.CC5DA60E@maynor.net>

>> > Have we established whether it's *er* or *er?
>>
>> It's *er*, of course.
>
>Then I naturally withdraw my suggestion of Buster.
>
>--
> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

A little too soon.  If she'd said "it's not *er", then you could infer that
"Buster" should be withdrawn.  But since "*er" is just a subclass of
"*er*", saying that a name is a member of the latter class doesn't tell you
whether or not it's a member of the former.

Ken Miller
Kibo School of Greppery

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 05:29:57 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20225
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 05:29:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00126B6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:39:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13179310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 11:39:59 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FFdxQ05354 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:39:59 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26336 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:39:55 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 15 Jul 02
          11:39:55 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 15 Jul 02 11:39:42 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <OE51LBf6AlxHqyijn390000bb1b@hotmail.com>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D32B47D.1589.D838A7@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:39:42 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207150818010.18823-100000@idiom.com>

Friday night, after a long day of hiking in Gatineau Park, Steve and
I stopped for dinner at our favourite place - Soup Herbe in Old
Chelsea, Quebec.  We had a thin crust wood-fired pizza topped
with goat cheese, sun dried tomato, garlic, and olives.  It was the
best of everything all in one place.

BrP



> On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Amy Burns Short wrote:
>
> > I will be expecting some visiting relatives and other guests in the next
> > week or so. Would you be so kind as to share some of your favorate "finger
> > foods" and preparation methods?
>
> Goat cheese and roasted veggies (msuhroom, zucchini, eggplant, red
> peppers, and sun dried tomatoes) on thin toasted french bread.  I just
> made these yesterday afternoon.  It was not as much trouble as I thought
> it was and I loved to hear those pleased little "oooh!" sounds when people
> saw them on table.
>
> Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 05:34:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20242
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 05:34:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00126C00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:44:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13178992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 11:44:34 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FFYXQ04529; Mon,
          15 Jul 2002 11:34:33 -0400
Received: from willian-meza ([200.75.106.14]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FFYNp11344; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:34:24
          -0400
Received: from police.digi-trade.cz ([24.232.182.103]) by willian-meza with
          Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:48:11 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jul 2002 15:48:12.0368 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[06702D00:01C22C17]
Message-ID:  <00007fb82414$000049c6$000026e3@himmelsborg.cs.lth.se>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:33:51 -1900
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: E-Business Services <a.e.ent@BITWORKS.CO.NZ>
Subject:      Cost effective marketing
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

<HTML>
<HEAD><TITLE>Online Marketing Strategies</TITLE><META http-equiv=3DContent=
-Type content=3D"text/html;
charset=3Dwindows-1252"><META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.100" name=3DGENE=
RATOR><META content=3DFrontPage.Editor.Document name=3DProgId>
    </HEAD><BODY vLink=3D#c0c0c0 link=3D#c0c0c0 bgColor=3D#FFFFFF leftMarg=
in=3D0>
     <DIV align=3Dcenter><CENTER><TABLE height=3D0 cellSpacing=3D0 cellPad=
ding=3D0 width=3D500 border=3D0>
        <TBODY><TR><TD width=3D"100%" height=3D200><P align=3Dcenter>
        <FONT face=3D"Georgia, Times New Roman" size=3D7>
        <B><FONT color=3D#08296b>Need More Clients?</FONT></B></FONT></P><P align=
=3Dcenter>
        <FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D5><B><FONT color=3D#ff0000>
        Increase Your Sales 15%-40% Every Month!</FONT></B>
<HR>
<FONT color=3D#ff0000><B><FONT face=3D"Times, New Roman" color=3D#08296b s=
ize=3D3>
Targeted E-mail Marketing Is A Proven Method For Return Sales<br>
</FONT></B>
<FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3>
  With a database of over 150 million "targeted" addresses, we can reach y=
our potential clients
  anywhere in the world.  Our staff creates interactive ad campaigns, spec=
ifically targeted to
  your client base, and designed to produce staggering responses for your =
business.  A steady
  lead source can make sure your sales team will consistently close deals.
</FONT>
<P>
   <FONT face=3D"Times, New Roman" size=3D3><B><FONT color=3D#08296b>The G=
reatest
      Return On Your Marketing Dollar</FONT></B>
<FONT color=3D#000000><BR><FONT size=3D3>Targeted e-mail marketing is the =
most effective way to reach
global and local markets with a small expense compared to that of conventi=
onal marketing.
Quality work and a dedicated professional staff will ensure your ad campai=
gn to be successful.
Put our educated team of marketers to work for you.<br><br></B></FONT></p>=
</tr></td></tbody>
<P>
<TABLE width=3D400 border=3D0>
  <TBODY>
  <TR>
    <TD align=3Dmiddle><FONT color=3D#08296b size=3D4>Fill out the form be=
low to speak
with one <br>of our marketing specialists.</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE=
>
<P><FONT color=3D#08296b size=3D2>Required Input Field<FONT color=3D#ff000=
0
size=3D2>*</FONT></FONT>
<P>
<TABLE cellSpacing=3D0 borderColorDark=3D#333300 cellPadding=3D3 width=3D6=
00
borderColorLight=3D#ffffcc>
  <TBODY>
  <TR>
    <TD align=3Dmiddle>
      <FORM action=3Dmailto:inbocks1468@eudoramail.com?subject=3DE-marketi=
ng_Inquiry
      method=3Dpost encType=3Dtext/plain>
      <TABLE width=3D"100%">
        <TBODY>
        <TR>
          <TD align=3Dright width=3D"50%"><FONT
            face=3D"Times, New Roman" color=3D#08296b
          size=3D2>Name</FONT><FONT
            face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color=3D#ff0000
            size=3D2>*</FONT></TD>
          <TD><INPUT name=3DNAME></TD></TR>
        <TR>
          <TD align=3Dright width=3D"50%"><FONT
            face=3D"Times, New Roman" color=3D#08296b size=3D2>Web
            Address</FONT></TD>
          <TD><INPUT value=3Dhttp:// name=3DURL></TD></TR>
        <TR>
          <TD align=3Dright width=3D"50%"><FONT
            face=3D"Times, New Roman" color=3D#08296b size=3D2>Company
            Name</FONT><FONT
            face=3D"Times, New Roman" color=3D#ff0000
            size=3D2>*</FONT></TD>
          <TD><INPUT name=3DCOMPANY_NAME></TD></TR>
        <TR>
          <TD align=3Dright width=3D"50%"><FONT
            face=3D"Times, New Roman" color=3D#08296b size=3D2>
            State</FONT><FONT
            face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color=3D#ff0000
            size=3D2>*</FONT></TD>
          <TD><INPUT size=3D2 name=3DSTATE></TD></TR>
        <TR>
          <TD align=3Dright width=3D"50%"><FONT
            face=3D"Times, New Roman" color=3D#08296b size=3D2>Business
            Phone</FONT><FONT
            face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color=3D#ff0000
            size=3D2>*</FONT></TD>
          <TD><INPUT name=3DBUS_PHONE></TD></TR>
        <TR>
          <TD align=3Dright width=3D"50%"><FONT
            face=3D"Times, New Roman" color=3D#08296b size=3D2>Home
            Phone</FONT></TD>
          <TD><INPUT name=3DHOME_PHONE></TD></TR>
        <TR>
          <TD align=3Dright width=3D"50%"><FONT
            face=3D"Times, New Roman" color=3D#08296b size=3D2>Email
            Address</FONT><FONT
            face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color=3D#ff0000
            size=3D2>*</FONT></TD>
          <TD><INPUT name=3DEMAIL></TD></TR>
        <TR>
          <TD align=3Dright width=3D"50%"><FONT
            face=3D"Times, New Roman" color=3D#08296b size=3D2>Type of
            Business</FONT></TD>
          <TD><INPUT name=3DTYPE_OF_BUSINESS></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
      <P><INPUT type=3Dsubmit value=3D"Submit Information" name=3Dsubmit>
    </FORM></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<BR><BR>
<TABLE width=3D500>
  <TBODY>
  <TR>
    <TD align=3Dmiddle><FONT face=3D"Times, New Roman" color=3D#08296b
      size=3D1>To be removed, please
      <A href=3D"mailto:d_lete109@excite.com?subject=3DRemove_E-marketing"=
>Click
      here.<FONT color=3D#666600></A></FONT>.</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TA=
BLE></P></CENTER></BODY></HTML>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 05:54:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20270
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 05:54:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBA099@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:58:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13181161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 12:04:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FG4KQ09526 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:04:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7A9627F4E; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 09:04:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715160419.7A9627F4E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:04:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130304b9589b4decd4@[198.144.202.197]> from Bookrat at "Jul
              15, 2002  8:34:59 am"

Bookrat said:
> >> > Have we established whether it's *er* or *er?
> >>
> >> It's *er*, of course.
> >
> >Then I naturally withdraw my suggestion of Buster.
> >
> >--
> > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
> A little too soon.  If she'd said "it's not *er", then you could infer that
> "Buster" should be withdrawn.  But since "*er" is just a subclass of
> "*er*", saying that a name is a member of the latter class doesn't tell you
> whether or not it's a member of the former.

Sssssshhhhh! I was hoping they wouldn't catch onto that!

Greppery? Dear Lord.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 05:55:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20277
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 05:55:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00126E57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:05:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13181203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 12:05:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FG58Q09630 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:05:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F25378290; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 09:05:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715160507.F25378290@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:05:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL: Hors d'Oeuvres and Nibbles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D32B47D.1589.D838A7@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              15, 2002 11:39:42 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> Friday night, after a long day of hiking in Gatineau Park, Steve and
> I stopped for dinner at our favourite place - Soup Herbe in Old
> Chelsea, Quebec.  We had a thin crust wood-fired pizza topped
> with goat cheese, sun dried tomato, garlic, and olives.  It was the
> best of everything all in one place.

My friend who lives in Montreal goes to Gaspesie for his hiking vacations.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 06:37:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20345
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 06:37:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBA43B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:42:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13184039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 12:47:35 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6FGlZQ15767 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          12:47:35 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6FGlY4299928 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 12:47:35 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEMPFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:46:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Wild Horses and Burros
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715100927.03281250@victoria.nb.no>

> >Maybe Bonnie or Clyde can help me. I want to get one of those Maine
> >fisherman type rain hats. They look longer on the sides and
> shorter rim  in
> >front to allow for better vision. I've looked online but haven't
> found any.
> >I think they're usually yellow and shiny looking. Any ideas on
> how I can get
> >one?
>
>
>
> A souwester?
>
> Espen

I didn't know the proper name for it, but "yes!". Betty found one for me
online :)

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 06:39:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20353
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 06:39:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBA45B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:43:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13184126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 12:49:29 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6FGnTQ15972 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          12:49:29 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6FGnS4194984 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 12:49:28 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEMPFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:48:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE15SmixLh55oVAEbZs0000c2c0@hotmail.com>

> Sandra:
>
> >To my chagrin, I seem to have no experience with gentlemen.
>
> Give it a whirl. They are the most deliciously dangerous kind. Others need
> not apply.
>
> AS "Gentlemen Only"

I don't seek those who  aren't gentlemen, I'm just saying I rarely run into
the species.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 06:43:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20357
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 06:43:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBA4BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:47:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13184470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 12:53:18 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6FGrIQ16923 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          12:53:18 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6FGrH4225496 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 12:53:17 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACENAFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:51:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE48wGmAf0MjkatwD430000c48d@hotmail.com>

> >I suspect SF imposes double taxation on decent men; so far, we've
> succeeded in detering them from crossing county lines with the
> exception of
> CajunFest.
>
> >Sandra
>
> Bull. This is where self-fulfilling prophecies play out themselves to the
> hilt.
>
> AS

I would like to think that isn't true. I'd like to think that nice people
can find other nice people for romantic companionship.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 06:45:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20369
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 06:45:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00127371@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:55:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13184708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 12:55:44 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6FGtiQ17409 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          12:55:44 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6FGth4296488 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 12:55:43 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGENAFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:54:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715140858.A18634@yoccoz.multinix.com>

> = Ken's a nice guy.
>
> Is this a reason not to date him?  I did not say become instant
> soulmates.  I did not say spend all your free time together.  If
> you got together once a month would the drive kill you?
>
> steph
> in for a penny in for a pound

steph = yenta

I'm all fer nice guys.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 06:48:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20373
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 06:48:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBA556@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:53:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13184950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 12:58:53 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6FGwrQ17956 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          12:58:53 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6FGwq4114112 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 12:58:52 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOENAFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:57:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Goat's Head Soup
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE67qiwn9CItzocvbeR000059c3@hotmail.com>

> > The crepes turned out perfectly. I had goat once...at a West African
> > restaurant in Los Angeles. I didn't ask what part of the goat I was
> eating,
> > but I doubt it was the head.
>
> Goat is pretty common in Mexican cuisine. Down here in south
> Texas kid goat
> is considered something of a delicacy. Regarding goats' heads, they are
> readily available in all the local supermarkets. Graham ordered one in
> Progreso once. I couldn't stomach it--too much of the wide
> staring eyes--but
> he seemed to take it with no trouble. I have never seen him order
> the cabeza
> de cabra again, so it was probably one of those "I'm stronger than this"
> culinary moments.
>
> -aht

I watched Cook's Tour, the FoodNetwork show by Anthony Bourdain, recently.
He was in some part of Mexico and goat was roasted (split in half and
flattened) under the ground (rather like a crab bake, I think) and a pot of
Goat Head soup was placed in the bake, too. Just the whole head in water
with veggies and whatnot. I don't seem to mind eating a fish that's staring
at me, but goat eyes just seem too humanish. I don't think I could get over
that.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 06:52:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20387
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 06:52:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBA5B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:57:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13185317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 13:02:39 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6FH2dQ18931 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          13:02:39 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6FH2c4164110 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 13:02:38 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEENBFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:01:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D32ACDB.19667.66B901@localhost>

> I discovered an annoying little quirk of Word. Putting an asterisk
> before and after a set of characters is a cue for Word to make
> those characters bold.  I was typing something the other day in
> which i wanted the asterisks to appear and it took a bit of fiddling to
> persuade word that I didn't just want it in bold.
>
> BrP

Word is endlessly annoying.

Sch.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 07:00:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20412
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 07:00:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001274FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:10:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13185888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 13:10:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FHA6Q20029 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:10:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D7ED67DD8; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 10:10:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715171005.D7ED67DD8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:10:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACENAFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 15, 2002  9:51:57 am"

S Hess said:
> > >I suspect SF imposes double taxation on decent men; so far, we've
> > succeeded in detering them from crossing county lines with the
> > exception of
> > CajunFest.
> >
> > >Sandra
> >
> > Bull. This is where self-fulfilling prophecies play out themselves to the
> > hilt.
> >
> > AS
>
> I would like to think that isn't true. I'd like to think that nice people
> can find other nice people for romantic companionship.

Look at it this way: it may be true in Amy's case. I know it isn't in mine.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 07:04:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20421
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 07:04:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00127552@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:14:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 13:14:43 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FHEhQ20687 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:14:43 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust188.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.190]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003940385@mx0.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 13:14:39 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D330372.B18FB564@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:16:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Rules for Writing
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rules for Writing
>
>1. Always avoid alliteration.
>
>2. Prepositions are not words to end sentences with.
>
>3. Avoid cliches like the plague.
>
>4. Employ the vernacular.
>
>5. Eschew ampersands & abbreviations, etc.
>
>6. Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are unnecessary.
>
>7. It is wrong to ever split an infinitive.
>
>8. Contractions aren't necessary.
>
>9. Foreign words and phrases are not apropos.
>
>10. One should never generalize.
>
>11. Eliminate quotations. As Ralph Waldo Emerson once said: "I hate
>quotations. Tell me what you know."
>
>12. Comparisons are as bad as cliches.
>
>13. Don't be redundant and don't use more words than necessary because
>it's highly superfluous.
>
>14. Profanity sucks.
>
>15. Be more or less specific.
>
>16. Understatement is always best.
>
>17. Exaggeration is a billion times worse than understatement.
>
>18. One-word sentences? Eliminate.
>
>19. Analogies in writing are like feathers on a snake.
>
>20. The passive voice is to be avoided.
>
>21. Go around the barn at high noon to avoid colloquialisms.
>
>22. Even if a mixed metaphor sings, it should be derailed.
>
>23. Who needs rhetorical questions?
>
>24. Sentences without verbs--bad idea.
>
>25. Avoid run-on sentences they are hard to read.
>
>26. Don't use no double negatives.
>
>27. Verbs has to agree with their subjects.
>
>28. Avoid commas, that are not necessary.
>
>29. Place pronouns as close as possible, especially in long
>sentences--such as those of ten or more words--to their antecedents.
>
>30. Use parallel structure when you write and in speaking.
>
>31. Take the bull in hand and don't mix metaphors.
>
>32. Never use a long word when a diminutive one will do.
>
>33. Unless you are quoting other people's exclamations, kill all
>exclamation points!!!
>
>34. Proofread carefully to see if you any words out.

alyce
--

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 07:12:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20432
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 07:12:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00127632@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:22:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 13:22:37 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6FHMbQ22392 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          13:22:37 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6FHMa4175430 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 13:22:36 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKENCFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:21:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715171005.D7ED67DD8@yellow.rahul.net>

> S Hess said:
> > > >I suspect SF imposes double taxation on decent men; so far, we've
> > > succeeded in detering them from crossing county lines with the
> > > exception of
> > > CajunFest.
> > >
> > > >Sandra
> > >
> > > Bull. This is where self-fulfilling prophecies play out
> themselves to the
> > > hilt.
> > >
> > > AS
> >
> > I would like to think that isn't true. I'd like to think that
> nice people
> > can find other nice people for romantic companionship.
>
> Look at it this way: it may be true in Amy's case. I know it
> isn't in mine.
>
> Karen

Thank you :) Sheesh...I think I specifically look for men I believe to be
nice. Some girls go for the bad boy type. It's never been my *thing*.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 07:12:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20430
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 07:12:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00127632@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:22:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 13:22:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FHMaQ22386 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:22:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EE7037F41; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 10:22:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715172235.EE7037F41@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:22:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Literary Q of the Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

How did Lytton Strachey revolutionize the art of biography?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 07:13:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20441
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 07:13:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBA800@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:17:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13186915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 13:23:15 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6FHNEQ22512 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          13:23:14 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6FHNE4269226 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 13:23:14 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOENCFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:21:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rules for Writing
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D330372.B18FB564@valstar.net>

Eat a little something, Alyce :)

Sandra

> Rules for Writing
> >
> >1. Always avoid alliteration.
> >
> >2. Prepositions are not words to end sentences with.
> >
> >3. Avoid cliches like the plague.
> >
> >4. Employ the vernacular.
> >
> >5. Eschew ampersands & abbreviations, etc.
> >
> >6. Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are unnecessary.
> >
> >7. It is wrong to ever split an infinitive.
> >
> >8. Contractions aren't necessary.
> >
> >9. Foreign words and phrases are not apropos.
> >
> >10. One should never generalize.
> >
> >11. Eliminate quotations. As Ralph Waldo Emerson once said: "I hate
> >quotations. Tell me what you know."
> >
> >12. Comparisons are as bad as cliches.
> >
> >13. Don't be redundant and don't use more words than necessary because
> >it's highly superfluous.
> >
> >14. Profanity sucks.
> >
> >15. Be more or less specific.
> >
> >16. Understatement is always best.
> >
> >17. Exaggeration is a billion times worse than understatement.
> >
> >18. One-word sentences? Eliminate.
> >
> >19. Analogies in writing are like feathers on a snake.
> >
> >20. The passive voice is to be avoided.
> >
> >21. Go around the barn at high noon to avoid colloquialisms.
> >
> >22. Even if a mixed metaphor sings, it should be derailed.
> >
> >23. Who needs rhetorical questions?
> >
> >24. Sentences without verbs--bad idea.
> >
> >25. Avoid run-on sentences they are hard to read.
> >
> >26. Don't use no double negatives.
> >
> >27. Verbs has to agree with their subjects.
> >
> >28. Avoid commas, that are not necessary.
> >
> >29. Place pronouns as close as possible, especially in long
> >sentences--such as those of ten or more words--to their antecedents.
> >
> >30. Use parallel structure when you write and in speaking.
> >
> >31. Take the bull in hand and don't mix metaphors.
> >
> >32. Never use a long word when a diminutive one will do.
> >
> >33. Unless you are quoting other people's exclamations, kill all
> >exclamation points!!!
> >
> >34. Proofread carefully to see if you any words out.
>
> alyce
> --
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 07:14:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20445
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 07:14:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00127665@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:24:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13187000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 13:24:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FHOCQ22736 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:24:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9F0527F43; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 10:24:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715172401.9F0527F43@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:24:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKENCFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 15, 2002 10:21:15 am"

S Hess said:
> > S Hess said:
> > > > >I suspect SF imposes double taxation on decent men; so far, we've
> > > > succeeded in detering them from crossing county lines with the
> > > > exception of
> > > > CajunFest.
> > > >
> > > > >Sandra
> > > >
> > > > Bull. This is where self-fulfilling prophecies play out
> > themselves to the
> > > > hilt.
> > > >
> > > > AS
> > >
> > > I would like to think that isn't true. I'd like to think that
> > nice people
> > > can find other nice people for romantic companionship.
> >
> > Look at it this way: it may be true in Amy's case. I know it
> > isn't in mine.
> >
> > Karen
>
> Thank you :) Sheesh...I think I specifically look for men I believe to be
> nice. Some girls go for the bad boy type. It's never been my *thing*.

Nor mine. I'm on a streak of men who want to take car of me whether I
want it or not, but all in all, I think that that's what I need right
now.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 07:15:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20454
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 07:15:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBA83E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:19:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13187061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 13:25:04 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FHP4Q22921 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:25:04 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06878 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:25:03 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 15 Jul 02
          13:25:03 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 15 Jul 02 13:24:54 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <20020715171005.D7ED67DD8@yellow.rahul.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D32CD1D.10661.1386E36@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:24:46 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKENCFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

Sandra:

I specifically look for men I believe to be nice.

me too

:-)

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 07:26:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20471
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 07:26:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001277CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:36:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13187940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 13:36:44 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6FHaiQ24960 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          13:36:44 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6FHah4247578 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 13:36:43 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACENEFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:35:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715172401.9F0527F43@yellow.rahul.net>

> > Thank you :) Sheesh...I think I specifically look for men I
> believe to be
> > nice. Some girls go for the bad boy type. It's never been my *thing*.
>
> Nor mine. I'm on a streak of men who want to take car of me whether I
> want it or not, but all in all, I think that that's what I need right
> now.
>
> Karen

Just be careful. I hope it stays "caring" and doesn't develop into
"controlling." That's what just happened to me.

At first, I was thrilled. Who knew a radiator needed water AND coolant?! It
was nice to have someone that I felt was looking out for me. Quickly it
manifested into something more than that. I was told he was the "Captain."
(If only I were Tennille ;) ) Another time, he announced himself to be the
Commander. "I'm George Bush, you're Dick Cheney. Got it?"  It's not that I
can't appreciate a division of labor (he quoted Lincoln's bit about a House
Divided...) But things we used to discuss became orders and demands...it was
simply amazing. And when I pointed it out...he simply said that I needed to
acknowledge that being in charge carries a lot of responsibilities. He
simply threw a fit if I didn't immediately acquiesce (sp?) to his requests.
Those were the worst moments...he's not a complete brute but he became a
whole lot less caring than I thought he was.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 07:27:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20481
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 07:27:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBA981@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:31:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13188013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 13:37:31 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6FHbVQ25134 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          13:37:31 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6FHbU4280766 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 13:37:30 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKENEFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:36:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D32CD1D.10661.1386E36@localhost>

 Sandra:
>
> I specifically look for men I believe to be nice.
>
> me too
>
> :-)
>
> BrP

I suspect we are not competing ;)

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 07:35:30 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20505
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 07:35:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001278A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:45:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13188762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 13:45:29 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FHjTQ26720 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:45:29 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14000 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:45:28 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 15 Jul 02
          13:45:29 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 15 Jul 02 13:45:18 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D32CD1D.10661.1386E36@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D32D1EA.20664.14B2E78@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:45:15 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKENEFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

>
> I suspect we are not competing ;)
>
> Sandra

You're probably right - though not necessarily.  I know quite a few
guys who play both ends of the field.

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 07:35:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20509
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 07:35:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBAA6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:39:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13188798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 13:45:34 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FHjYQ26765 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:45:34 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6FHjX7Y353116 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          13:45:34 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <004c01c22c27$6bc38e80$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:45:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715090635.A18045@yoccoz.multinix.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of steph
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:07 AM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
>
>
> =
> = MY answer to your question, had I read it in a timely
> fashion, would have
> = been to see what Coldwater Creek had to offer. So there.
> =
> = --Adam
> = adamh1@attbi.com
>
> What a sweetie!
>
> Alec, Adam is right.  You should pay some Coldwater Creek bills.
> Their website is a dog, but the paper catalog is ok.  If the
> stuff fits, it is much nicer than what Lane Bryant, Avenue, etc.
> have on offer.
>
> steph
>

In my haste, I forgot to mention Coldwater Creek. Heide and I have been
to their store in King of Prussia, PA.

alec

-------
Alec D. Plotkin
plotkina@isc.upenn.edu

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 07:37:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20513
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 07:37:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00127919@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:47:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13189373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 13:47:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FHlUQ27514 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:47:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7A0B57D12; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 10:47:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715174729.7A0B57D12@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:47:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACENEFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 15, 2002 10:35:23 am"

S Hess said:
> Just be careful. I hope it stays "caring" and doesn't develop into
> "controlling." That's what just happened to me.

No way.

> At first, I was thrilled. Who knew a radiator needed water AND coolant?! It
> was nice to have someone that I felt was looking out for me. Quickly it
> manifested into something more than that. I was told he was the "Captain."

This would have been the end of it.

> (If only I were Tennille ;) ) Another time, he announced himself to be the
> Commander. "I'm George Bush, you're Dick Cheney. Got it?"  It's not that I
> can't appreciate a division of labor (he quoted Lincoln's bit about a House
> Divided...) But things we used to discuss became orders and demands...it was
> simply amazing. And when I pointed it out...he simply said that I needed to
> acknowledge that being in charge carries a lot of responsibilities. He
> simply threw a fit if I didn't immediately acquiesce (sp?) to his requests.
> Those were the worst moments...he's not a complete brute but he became a
> whole lot less caring than I thought he was.

Gee, the stuff that My New Friend does that annoys me is much more
low-level than that. I have very little tolerance for that kind of
behavior. Even the caretaking behavior, innocuous in itself, bugs me
after a while.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 07:47:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20526
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 07:47:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBAC66@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:51:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13190264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 13:57:31 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6FHvVQ29392 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          13:57:31 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6FHvU461478 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          13:57:30 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOENFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:56:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D32D1EA.20664.14B2E78@localhost>

> > I suspect we are not competing ;)
> >
> > Sandra
>
> You're probably right - though not necessarily.  I know quite a few
> guys who play both ends of the field.
>
> BrP

Yes, I'd thought about that. So many of my gay (male) friends tell me how
many married men are out there trolling for fun. Deception in any form is a
frightening thought. I'm feeling for the wives.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 08:00:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20602
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 08:00:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBADF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:04:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13191494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 14:10:19 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FIAJQ32083 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:10:19 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7DCC78621; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 11:09:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715180928.7DCC78621@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:09:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOENFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 15, 2002 10:56: 9 am"

S Hess said:
> > > I suspect we are not competing ;)
> > >
> > > Sandra
> >
> > You're probably right - though not necessarily.  I know quite a few
> > guys who play both ends of the field.
> >
> > BrP
>
> Yes, I'd thought about that. So many of my gay (male) friends tell me how
> many married men are out there trolling for fun. Deception in any form is a
> frightening thought. I'm feeling for the wives.

I wouldn't assume deception right off the bat.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 08:12:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20615
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 08:12:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBAF62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:16:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13192730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 14:22:06 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FIM6Q02213 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:22:06 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26443 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:22:05 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 15 Jul 02
          14:22:06 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 15 Jul 02 14:21:40 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D32D1EA.20664.14B2E78@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D32DA70.28502.16C79B9@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:21:36 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOENFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

>
> Yes, I'd thought about that. So many of my gay (male) friends tell me how
> many married men are out there trolling for fun. Deception in any form is a
> frightening thought. I'm feeling for the wives.
>
> Sandra

  I am so grateful that when my (now ex) wife first fell in love with a
woman she did not try to hide or deceive.  We talked through the
feelings and the implications.  At the time, I hoped it would lead to
staying together.  Instead, it led to me discovering
(acknowledging?) my attraction to men and our decision to pursue
other romantic partners while maintaining our connection as
parents of our children.  Yes, deception inevitably leads to disaster.

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 08:51:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20664
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 08:51:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBB399@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:55:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13196099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 15:01:30 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FJ1TQ09006 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:01:29 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6FJ6Pr19497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:06:25
          +0200
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEMBFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>;
            <v0313030fb957e3e71c54@[66.237.73.69]>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEMBFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <20020715091932.B18045@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <v03130300b958885076f3@[66.237.73.69]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020715210624.A19471@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:06:24 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130300b958885076f3@[66.237.73.69]>; from bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM
              on Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 08:24:42AM -0700

On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 08:24:42AM -0700, Bookrat wrote:
= >Why don't you guys date?
= >
= >steph
=
= To paraphrase Billie Holliday: don't threaten me with dating, baby.
=
= Ken Miller
= Mencken School of Opsigamy

How late is late, Miller?  Actually, I'm with you on the whole
dating thing.  I mean, I went out to dinner once with Patrick,
at the beginning of this thing we do, but it sure wasn't a date.

teph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 09:07:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20689
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 09:07:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00128331@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:17:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13197210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 15:17:26 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FJHQQ11540 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:17:26 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020715191720.MSBV6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:17:20 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020714190136.CB8E97E2F@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714202421.021659a0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:13:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v0313030ab9579d5e89f0@[198.144.202.197]>

Bookrat writes,

>FreeBSD. ;-)

This would be okay, too.

Another read of _In the Beginning was the Command Line_ might get you in
the right mood for using a non-commercial OS:
<http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html> (author's site,
downloadable); <http://www.spack.org/words/commandline.html> (HTML).

Remember that part of the point is to play around with the thing (which can
be either annoying or rewarding), and that it's okay to install and
re-install until you're happy with the results.

BTW, it's probably not pertinent for you, but here are some interesting
ways to get Windows stuff running under Linux (all $ to $$$, unfortunately):

Win4Lin ($) Interfaces the Windows API to Linux, so many programs will run
under Linux.  Haven't tried it, but it's supposed to work well.

VMWare ($$$) Complete hardware/software PC virtualization.  I'm using now
for most of my Windows work, and it works beautifully (in full-screen mode,
you can't tell you're not on a Windows box).  I particularly like the
feature where you can choose to commit or discard disk modifications from
each session.

Lindows ($$) Aimed to replace Windows on the desktop.  Not easy enough to
replace Windows yet, but looks interesting (and comes with a money-back
guarantee, at least)

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 09:13:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20697
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 09:13:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBB5B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:18:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13197718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 15:23:55 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6FJNtQ12767 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          15:23:55 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6FJNs450846 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          15:23:54 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEENIFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:23:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715210624.A19471@yoccoz.multinix.com>

> On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 08:24:42AM -0700, Bookrat wrote:
> = >Why don't you guys date?
> = >
> = >steph
> =
> = To paraphrase Billie Holliday: don't threaten me with dating, baby.
> =
> = Ken Miller
> = Mencken School of Opsigamy
>
> How late is late, Miller?  Actually, I'm with you on the whole
> dating thing.  I mean, I went out to dinner once with Patrick,
> at the beginning of this thing we do, but it sure wasn't a date.
>
> teph


I have a pic of my parents on one of their first dates. It's one of those
pictures those camera girls used to take at nightclubs. Both dressed
up..seated in a tufted booth. My mom looks beautiful and my father looks
dashing. I remember once calling a friend the day after a date I had a few
years ago..."Priscilla, you won't believe it. I dated a guy who wore a suit
and tie and he stood up for me at the table when I approached." Neither of
us could believe it. I'm not saying that that is my idea of an ideal
date...but it harkened back to yesteryear and it seemed so romantic. On the
other hand, he was a stockbroker (very risk oriented) and he regularly
conveyed a message to me that somehow I just wasn't meeting his needs. He
showed me a family photo album...and told me the story of how his mother
abandoned him and and his brother when he was 5. I wasn't sure how much I
ought to say or ask about that...that being a pivotal issue/element in his
life. I commented on his travels, his family, etc. Later on, he called me to
say he was disappointed in me not having more questions about him when he
showed me his photos. Bottomline, I think it's much about character. That's
harder to find than a guy in a suit. But  a lot more precious.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 09:17:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20709
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 09:17:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBB5EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:21:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13197885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 15:27:00 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6FJR0Q13158 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          15:27:00 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6FJQx4405296 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 15:27:00 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKENIFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:26:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715180928.7DCC78621@yellow.rahul.net>

> S Hess said:
> > > > I suspect we are not competing ;)
> > > >
> > > > Sandra
> > >
> > > You're probably right - though not necessarily.  I know quite a few
> > > guys who play both ends of the field.
> > >
> > > BrP
> >
> > Yes, I'd thought about that. So many of my gay (male) friends
> tell me how
> > many married men are out there trolling for fun. Deception in
> any form is a
> > frightening thought. I'm feeling for the wives.
>
> I wouldn't assume deception right off the bat.
>
> Karen

I have asked my gay friends if the married bi men they've seen are open with
such activities with their spouses. In the cases mentioned to me, it was
definitely involving deception.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 09:18:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20713
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 09:18:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBB62E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:22:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13198089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 15:28:05 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6FJS5Q13488 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          15:28:05 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6FJS44229756 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 15:28:04 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOENIFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:27:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D32DA70.28502.16C79B9@localhost>

> > Yes, I'd thought about that. So many of my gay (male) friends
> tell me how
> > many married men are out there trolling for fun. Deception in
> any form is a
> > frightening thought. I'm feeling for the wives.
> >
> > Sandra
>
>   I am so grateful that when my (now ex) wife first fell in love with a
> woman she did not try to hide or deceive.  We talked through the
> feelings and the implications.  At the time, I hoped it would lead to
> staying together.  Instead, it led to me discovering
> (acknowledging?) my attraction to men and our decision to pursue
> other romantic partners while maintaining our connection as
> parents of our children.  Yes, deception inevitably leads to disaster.
>
> BrP

Interesting that both of you discovered you were gay. I haven't heard of
that before.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 09:20:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20717
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 09:20:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001284AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:30:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13198374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 15:30:54 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FJUsQ14042 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:30:54 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZB0072R27HE7@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:30:53 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <620AE5A8.4D1695A9.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Message-ID:  <3D332292.7060700@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:29:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

jbh wrote:

> Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET> wrote:
>
>  My summer class came to just under $700, plus
>
>>$58 to park.
>>
>>
> A bargain for the parking by UKY standards, I tell you.


That's just for one class.  During the regular semester I
paid over $300.


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 09:24:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20725
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 09:24:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBB6EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:28:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13198545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 15:34:08 -0400
Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FJY8Q14481 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:34:08 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b7.db5185 (22681) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 15:33:57 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m23.webmail.aol.com [64.12.180.139]) by
          air-in04.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ42-0715153357;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:33:57 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <010C6FFA.1325B35C.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:28:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET> wrote:


>That's just for one class.  During the regular semester I
>paid over $300.
>
>
For parking! Sell your car immediately.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 09:25:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20733
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 09:25:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBB715@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:30:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13198644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 15:35:51 -0400
Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FJZpQ14674 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:35:51 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b4.daef1b (22683) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 15:35:43 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m13.webmail.aol.com [64.12.180.129]) by
          air-in04.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ44-0715153543;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:35:43 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <1D3B423E.72AE5250.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:36:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Literary Q of the Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:

>How did Lytton Strachey revolutionize the art of biography?
>
>Karen

I give.  Beyond the fact that he wrote "eminent victorians", (which i've never read), I dunno.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 09:27:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20737
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 09:27:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBB72F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:31:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13198705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 15:36:57 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FJavQ14796 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:36:57 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZB003DU2HLOH@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:36:57 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020714205302.C6309@pobox.com>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIELOFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <20020714223453.A9749@pobox.com>
Message-ID:  <3D3323FD.9020806@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:35:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 07:55:53PM -0700, S Hess wrote:
>
>>>>>Oh my ASS!
>>>>>
>>>>http://www.etext.org/~rita/just4u
>>>>
>>>*sigh*  Now everyone will know.
>>>
>>Tush...what's up with  you and your ass? It's become a focal point.
>>
>
> As long as you don't hate me for it ...
>
> This is not new to me you know, I am well-known to have one of the
> most overwhelmingly dynamic ASSes in the city. I get anonymous calls
> about it all the time, all of them complimentary.
>
> <http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=kenji-90E5AA.08162901052002%40virt-reader.news.rcn.net>
>

        GAY[tm].



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 09:31:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20749
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 09:31:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBB798@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:35:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13199010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 15:41:06 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FJf5Q15452 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:41:05 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6FJk2719629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:46:02
          +0200
References: <20020714223003.A16784@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020714203846.10A1E8574@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020715214601.A19574@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:46:01 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020714203846.10A1E8574@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 01:38:45PM -0700

=
=
= > You can also poke your nose into the linuxchix mailing list.  I
= > haven't been following the tech lists for ages now, but this is
= > just the kind of question for there.
=
= Ooh, ooh!!! Thanks SOOOOO much! I didn't know there was such a thing!
=
= I love you, man!
=
= Karen

:-)

Now that we've sorted out that your motivation to do it is more
or less just to play with it, I would think it matters not one
whit which distro you choose.  I would look now for which one you
think is going to cause the least amount of pain to get your
hands on.  Or the one you think you can set up with the least
amount of disk space, as that's at a premium.

The laptop I'm on now has a 2G disk, and it's got a barebones Red
Hat install that takes up 1G.  And we still never use it because
Pat can't get the *&%&^* 3com wireless pcmcia card to work under
RH.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 09:38:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20766
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 09:38:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBB848@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:42:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13199501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 15:48:26 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FJmQQ16723 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:48:26 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28554 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:46:59 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 15 Jul 02
          15:46:59 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 15 Jul 02 15:46:50 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D32EE68.3483.1BA7E91@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:46:49 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3323FD.9020806@swbell.net>

1) The other night I got a call from a telemarketer as follows:
   Me: Hello
   He: No way!
   Me: Pardon?
   He: Oh, I was talking to somebody else.
   Me: OK
   He: Is Vladimir there?
   Me: No
   He: Well who are you?
   Me: What did you want?
   He: Dude, I asked you a question first.  You're supposed to
answer it.
   Me: OK, here's my answer
   *click*

I never did find out what he was offering.
:-)

2) I just got a spam offering a book that would teach me how to
teach my dog to talk. It's irreverent I know, but my first thought was
"You can't teach a dead dog new tricks."

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 09:49:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20796
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 09:49:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBB921@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:53:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13200137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 15:59:01 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FJx1Q18506 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:59:01 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03089 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:59:00 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 15 Jul 02
          15:59:00 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 15 Jul 02 15:58:59 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D3323FD.9020806@swbell.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D32F139.23844.1C58148@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:58:50 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Border crossing
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D32EE68.3483.1BA7E91@localhost>

Coming back from Ottawa this time was the easiest crossing I
remember.  There were no cars ahead of me.  I pulled up to the
booth and the inspector said "Did you buy anything in Canada?"  I
said "no."  He said "Have a nice day."  No questions about how
long I was there, what my citizenship is, etc., etc.  I guess I must
have been looking particularly honest on Saturday.

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 09:59:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20827
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 09:59:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBBA15@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:04:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13200882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 16:09:43 -0400
Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FK9hQ20278 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:09:43 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b2.db2a18 (16238) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 16:09:35 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m16.webmail.aol.com [64.12.180.132]) by
          air-in03.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ32-0715160935;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:09:35 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <797CB41D.51E49B7A.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:07:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU> wrote:


>2) I just got a spam offering a book that would teach me how to
>teach my dog to talk. It's irreverent I know, but my first thought was
>"You can't teach a dead dog new tricks."

Might be irreverent, but it's pretty funny......

The only funny thing i've seen today is an upcoming master's defense poster in the ag school: "Extending Beef Steak Shelf Life: Using Anti-oxidants and atmosphere-sensitive wrapping".  Think I'll give up on the beef and broccoli stir-fry in the future.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 11:28:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20950
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 11:28:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC357@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:32:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13207614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 17:38:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FLcXN02009 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:38:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8743B7D98; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715213831.8743B7D98@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:38:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715210624.A19471@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              15, 2002  9: 6:24 pm"

steph said:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 08:24:42AM -0700, Bookrat wrote:
> = >Why don't you guys date?
> = >
> = >steph
> =
> = To paraphrase Billie Holliday: don't threaten me with dating, baby.
> =
> = Ken Miller
> = Mencken School of Opsigamy
>
> How late is late, Miller?  Actually, I'm with you on the whole
> dating thing.  I mean, I went out to dinner once with Patrick,
> at the beginning of this thing we do, but it sure wasn't a date.

I love Ken Miller! He is my most reliable source of new words.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 11:30:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20962
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 11:30:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00129254@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:40:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13207728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 17:40:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FLeiN02260 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:40:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B5A087D16; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 14:40:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715214043.B5A087D16@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:40:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714202421.021659a0@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Jul 15, 2002 12:13:50 pm"

Peter Kaminski said:
> Bookrat writes,
>
> >FreeBSD. ;-)
>
> This would be okay, too.
>
> Another read of _In the Beginning was the Command Line_ might get you in
> the right mood for using a non-commercial OS:
> <http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html> (author's site,
> downloadable); <http://www.spack.org/words/commandline.html> (HTML).

I'll take a look at it.

> Remember that part of the point is to play around with the thing (which can
> be either annoying or rewarding), and that it's okay to install and
> re-install until you're happy with the results.

Yes, I understand that.

> BTW, it's probably not pertinent for you, but here are some interesting
> ways to get Windows stuff running under Linux (all $ to $$$, unfortunately):

I am $-free, unfortunately.

> I particularly like the
> feature where you can choose to commit or discard disk modifications from
> each session.

Dang! This rules. I feel myself being overcome by techno-lust...

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 11:36:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20978
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 11:36:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC3D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:40:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13208036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 17:46:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FLkUN02873 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:46:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8A0EE7F4B; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 14:46:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715214626.8A0EE7F4B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:46:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEENIFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 15, 2002 12:23:16 pm"

S Hess said:
> Bottomline, I think it's much about character. That's
> harder to find than a guy in a suit. But  a lot more precious.

Yes.

P.S. to Boo: *er* came over today, and we went out in the backyard and
he told me I needed to trim my tree, and I agreed, and he offered to
do it for a beer, so I got him the saw and supervised, and he only cut
the things that I thought needed to be cut. Very different behavior
from that of My New Friend.

Also, *er* told me about a friend of his who is in his 80's, who was a
paratrooper in WWII, and who was married 5 times, and who recently got
back together with his 2nd wife. (He was originally married to her 45
years ago.) She came to visit him for 3 days recently, and stayed for
18... And he's going to write a book on geriatric sex.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 11:44:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20983
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 11:44:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC42F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:48:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13208317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 17:54:04 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FLs4N03523 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:54:04 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws248-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.248]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6FLs0q24988
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:54:01 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020715145722.2DA0E7F68@yellow.rahul.net>
            <v03130304b9589b4decd4@[198.144.202.197]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D33444A.C49D4F14@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:53:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: *er
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bookrat wrote:

> A little too soon.  If she'd said "it's not *er", then you could infer that
> "Buster" should be withdrawn.  But since "*er" is just a subclass of
> "*er*", saying that a name is a member of the latter class doesn't tell you
> whether or not it's a member of the former.

That depends on context.  In this particular context, I don't think of
*er as a subclass of *er*.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 11:44:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20990
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 11:44:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC44D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:49:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13208408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 17:54:38 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FLscN03625 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:54:38 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6FLsbV17242
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:54:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020715213831.8743B7D98@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D33465B.CF59746C@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:02:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> steph said:
> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 08:24:42AM -0700, Bookrat wrote:
> > = >Why don't you guys date?
> > = >
> > = >steph
> > =
> > = To paraphrase Billie Holliday: don't threaten me with dating, baby.
> > =
> > = Ken Miller
> > = Mencken School of Opsigamy
> >
> > How late is late, Miller?  Actually, I'm with you on the whole
> > dating thing.  I mean, I went out to dinner once with Patrick,
> > at the beginning of this thing we do, but it sure wasn't a date.
>
> I love Ken Miller! He is my most reliable source of new words.

But would you date him?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 11:48:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21000
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 11:48:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001293BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:58:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13208661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 17:58:15 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6FLwEN04074 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:58:14 -0400
Received: from wh12485741 (216.249.154.5) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex
          6.5.007) id 3D0A970400116D05 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 16:54:35 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <009a01c22c4a$b5cfed20$059af9d8@murraystate.edu>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:58:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Aaarrrrrrrggghhhh!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The person in the next office has a compilation of "classic rock" hits
that's just a bit too loud. I think he thinks it's really cool.

Sorry for the rant.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 11:49:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21007
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 11:49:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC4A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:53:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13208708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 17:59:20 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FLxJN04157 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:59:19 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws248-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.248]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6FLxHq26600
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:59:17 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020715172235.EE7037F41@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3345B2.C7690B9@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:59:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Literary Q of the Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> How did Lytton Strachey revolutionize the art of biography?

Making them more like novels?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 11:54:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21015
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 11:54:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012946B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:04:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13209217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 18:04:52 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FM4qN05042 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:04:52 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws248-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.248]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6FM4fq28153
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:04:46 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOENFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3346F5.E3B32CB1@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:04:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:

> Yes, I'd thought about that. So many of my gay (male) friends tell me how
> many married men are out there trolling for fun. Deception in any form is a
> frightening thought. I'm feeling for the wives.

Is it necessarily deception?  I know of some cases where males and
females are married to each other because they really want to be for
whatever reason, while he is also having gay relationships.  No doubt
the same sometimes occurs when she might want gay relationships.  It
just happens that the ones I know about are cases of he.  (And in most
of the cases she is having hetero sex on the side.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 11:59:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21022
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 11:59:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC58C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:03:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13209437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 18:09:03 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FM93N05474 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:09:03 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6FM92V03345
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:09:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOENFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <3D3346F5.E3B32CB1@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D334814.9EC07D2@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:09:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      jh
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

John, if you see Brad tomorrow be sure to wish him a Happy Birthday from
us. He's not talking to us.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 12:50:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21118
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 12:50:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC7C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:55:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13211023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:00:37 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FMobN09090 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:50:37 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE0F5D2B for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:50:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6FMobV97452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:50:37
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020714205302.C6309@pobox.com>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIELOFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <20020714223453.A9749@pobox.com> <3D3323FD.9020806@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020715175037.A97382@pobox.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:50:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3323FD.9020806@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Mon,
              Jul 15, 2002 at 02:35:25PM -0500

On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 02:35:25PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
>>>>>>Oh my ASS!
>>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.etext.org/~rita/just4u
>>>>>
>>>>*sigh*  Now everyone will know.
>>>>
>>>Tush...what's up with  you and your ass? It's become a focal point.
>>
>> As long as you don't hate me for it ...
>>
>> This is not new to me you know, I am well-known to have one of the
>> most overwhelmingly dynamic ASSes in the city. I get anonymous calls
>> about it all the time, all of them complimentary.
>>
>> <http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=kenji-90E5AA.08162901052002%40virt-reader.news.rcn.net>
>
>        GAY[tm].

You are SO jealous ... I never said you didn't yourself have
a DynamicASS[tm]. I am sure you do ...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 12:52:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21125
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 12:52:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001298E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:02:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13211067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:02:43 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FMqhN09235 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:52:43 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02EC5D31 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:52:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6FMqgB97467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:52:42
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D3323FD.9020806@swbell.net> <3D32EE68.3483.1BA7E91@localhost>
            <3D32F139.23844.1C58148@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020715175242.B97382@pobox.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:52:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Border crossing
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D32F139.23844.1C58148@localhost>; from prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU
              on Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 03:58:50PM -0400

On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 03:58:50PM -0400, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:
> Coming back from Ottawa this time was the easiest crossing I
> remember.  There were no cars ahead of me.  I pulled up to the
> booth and the inspector said "Did you buy anything in Canada?"
> I said "no."  He said "Have a nice day."  No questions about how
> long I was there, what my citizenship is, etc., etc.  I guess I
> must have been looking particularly honest on Saturday.

That's how my Canadian border crossing was--my only one, actually.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 12:57:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21144
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 12:57:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC822@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:01:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13211648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:07:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FN79N10324 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:07:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 70BC37E1C; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 16:07:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715230708.70BC37E1C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:07:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D33465B.CF59746C@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 15,
              2002  3: 2: 3 pm"

Betty said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > steph said:
> > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 08:24:42AM -0700, Bookrat wrote:
> > > = >Why don't you guys date?
> > > = >
> > > = >steph
> > > =
> > > = To paraphrase Billie Holliday: don't threaten me with dating, baby.
> > > =
> > > = Ken Miller
> > > = Mencken School of Opsigamy
> > >
> > > How late is late, Miller?  Actually, I'm with you on the whole
> > > dating thing.  I mean, I went out to dinner once with Patrick,
> > > at the beginning of this thing we do, but it sure wasn't a date.
> >
> > I love Ken Miller! He is my most reliable source of new words.
>
> But would you date him?

Sure.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:01:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21164
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:01:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC84B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:05:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13211764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:11:16 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FNBFN10645 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:11:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 193CF7EAA; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 16:11:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715231112.193CF7EAA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:11:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: jh
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D334814.9EC07D2@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 15,
              2002  3: 9:24 pm"

Betty said:
> John, if you see Brad tomorrow be sure to wish him a Happy Birthday from
> us. He's not talking to us.

Speak for yourself! He phoned me.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:03:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21168
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:03:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC85F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:07:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13211839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:13:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FNDQN10866 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:13:26 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4E0E47E98; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 16:13:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715231322.4E0E47E98@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:13:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715175037.A97382@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Jul 15,
              2002  5:50:37 pm"

Tushar Samant said:
> You are SO jealous ... I never said you didn't yourself have
> a DynamicASS[tm]. I am sure you do ...

If this means it jiggles a lot, I may have one, too.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:06:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21182
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:06:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC873@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:10:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13211897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:15:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FNFuN11088 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:15:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F305D7F6B; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 16:15:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715231555.F305D7F6B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:15:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Q of the Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3345B2.C7690B9@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 15,
              2002  4:59:14 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > How did Lytton Strachey revolutionize the art of biography?
>
> Making them more like novels?

Interesting answer. I'll let you know what this guy says when I get
that far in the book.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:08:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21187
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:08:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC88B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:13:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13211982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:18:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FNIdN11329 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:18:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EBBCC81B0; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 16:18:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715231838.EBBCC81B0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:18:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Q of the Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <1D3B423E.72AE5250.0099AB05@netscape.net> from jbh at "Jul 15,
              2002  3:36: 0 pm"

jbh said:
> I give.  Beyond the fact that he wrote "eminent victorians", (which i've never read), I dunno.

*That* is interesting, too. I started reading a book that *er* left at
 my house, and it said that he sent EV to one of his friends and they
 laughed about it. Now I wonder why. I'll have to reread that part. (I
 didn't realize Strachey wrote it. Duh. I am pig-ignorant.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:09:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21194
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:09:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001299CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:19:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13211997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:19:13 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FNJDN11377 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:19:13 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws56-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.56]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6FNJ9q19275
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:19:09 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D3323FD.9020806@swbell.net> <3D32EE68.3483.1BA7E91@localhost>
            <3D32F139.23844.1C58148@localhost> <20020715175242.B97382@pobox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D335869.AD7DB4FC@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:19:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Border crossing
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:

> That's how my Canadian border crossing was--my only one, actually.

All of mine have been brief, except for the time when the Canadian
official and I had a good time talking about various kinds of salad
dressing on top of a bridge near Detroit, and pleasant, except perhaps
in the eyes of the person I was laughing at near Jackman(?), Maine, when
she asked me if I was taking firearms into Canada.  She looked miffed by
the laughter that burst out of me when she asked the question.  I can't
remember ever being asked anything by US officials when coming back into
the US.  I guess maybe they've asked where I lived on the occasions when
I didn't hand them a passport.  But they never asked for any ID to prove
who I was.  I remember one time sort of apologizing when handing one a
passport, saying something like "I know this isn't necessary, but I just
happen to have it."  He laughed and said, "That's fine."  He didn't open
it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:10:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21203
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:10:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC89A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:14:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13212034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:20:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FNK2N11470 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:20:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws56-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.56]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6FNJxq19557
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:19:59 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D33589C.EBC9187F@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:19:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Speaking of Travel
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I heard on NPR today that the euro and the dollar are exactly equal
now.  That should make for easy <conversion>.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:17:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21215
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:17:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC8E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:21:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13212294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:27:11 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FNRBN12283 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:27:11 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 847A17FB7; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 16:27:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715232710.847A17FB7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:27:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

*er* came over for a while this afternoon and entertained me while I
cleaned my bloody refrigerator. *er* told me about a friend he visited
in Wimberly yesterday. This was so funny--I laughed so hard I ran into
my dishwasher and hurt my leg, but I kept on laughing. Anyway. The
story starts with *er* saying that his friend Dave, who's in his 80's,
has told him he had something interesting to tell him, but he wouldn't
tell him until *er* came to visit him. So. *er* gets to Dave's house,
and the guy starts out, "I'm thinking about writing a book on
geriatric sex." It turns out that Dave (who was a paratrooper during
WWII), has been married 5 times. A friend of his decided to get in
touch with Dave's 2nd wife for some reason, and in the end, she came
to visit Dave for 3 days--and stayed for 18.:) This caused some
problems with Dave's current live-in girlfriend... (who's now moving
out at the end of this month).

Which goes to show:  You never know what will happen.

(I'm dying to meet this guy.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:19:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21223
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:19:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC901@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:24:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13212404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:29:36 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FNTaN12488 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:29:36 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020715232930.ZVRZ6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:29:30 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGCEDCGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:32:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEMCFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

> The crepes turned out perfectly. I had goat once...at a West African
> restaurant in Los Angeles. I didn't ask what part of the goat I
> was eating,
> but I doubt it was the head.
>
> Sandra

I've never had goat, but I did have mock goat curry from Nyota's Ting, the
ethnic restaurant concession at Falcon Ridge Folk Festival. It was good.

--Adam, who still hasn't decided exactly how he's attending that
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:20:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21230
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:19:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC904@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:24:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13212413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:29:51 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FNToN12506 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:29:51 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws103-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.103]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6FNTiq23182
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:29:47 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020715232710.847A17FB7@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D335AE5.4D40ADE5@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:29:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Which goes to show:  You never know what will happen.

Has Dave read much Yeats?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:21:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21235
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:21:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC90F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:25:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13212438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:31:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FNUxN12638 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:31:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4B36E7F9F; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 16:30:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715233058.4B36E7F9F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:30:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D335AE5.4D40ADE5@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 15,
              2002  6:29:41 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Which goes to show:  You never know what will happen.
>
> Has Dave read much Yeats?

Why?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:23:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21240
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:23:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00129AAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:33:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13212538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:33:39 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FNXdN12930 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:33:39 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020715233334.FZLE29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:33:34 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEDCGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:36:12 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715145423.00bc8b08@victoria.nb.no>

> I love anchoivies - both the Mediterranean and the Scandinavian kind. The
> Scandinavian is best with hard boiled eggs.
>
> Espen

It's probably already been asked, but what's the difference in anchovy
types?

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:26:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21247
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:26:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00129AD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:36:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13212649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:36:23 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FNaMN13208 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:36:22 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020715233617.FLU6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:36:17 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEDDGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:38:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: back from Ottawa, news from Ontario
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020715105025.00a07840@pop3.norton.antivirus>

> "Portland [Maine] has the third-largest concentration of lesbian
> couples in
> the United States, after Santa Fe, N.M., and Burlington, Vt.

WHAT? Why, Lynn Sherr (or whatever her name was) did a big story on 20/20 a
few years ago about how Northampton, MA, was the Lesbian capital of the USA.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:29:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21254
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:29:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC96F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:33:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13212754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:39:02 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FNd2N13471 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:39:02 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020715233857.IMG6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:38:57 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEDDGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:41:35 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715151424.GVED29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70>

> Anchovies are good on pizza. They're better when they're
> accompianed by a hunk of sharp provolone (the kind that
> makes the roof of my mouth itchy) on a slice of Italian
> bread from Appicella's.
>
> lisa

You bring the bread and cheese, I'll supply the hairy fish (I bought a stock
at Costco).

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:29:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21261
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:29:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00129B0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:39:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13212815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:39:23 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FNdMN13591 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:39:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0982B7F3B; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 16:37:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715233707.0982B7F3B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:37:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: back from Ottawa, news from Ontario
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEDDGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 15, 2002  7:38:55 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> > "Portland [Maine] has the third-largest concentration of lesbian
> > couples in
> > the United States, after Santa Fe, N.M., and Burlington, Vt.
>
> WHAT? Why, Lynn Sherr (or whatever her name was) did a big story on 20/20 a
> few years ago about how Northampton, MA, was the Lesbian capital of the USA.

What about 3rd largest don't you understand?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:32:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21270
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:32:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC99C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:36:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13212941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:42:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FNgON13956 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:42:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DCC9A82B4; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 16:40:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715234018.DCC9A82B4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:40:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Is this overreaction or what?!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From gist.com:
"GOP Warns PBS on HIV Muppet

You knew this was inevitable: Republican lawmakers are warning PBS not
to bring "Sesame Street's" HIV-positive Muppet to the U.S., Variety
reports. Just a day after Sesame Street Workshop announced that the
South African version of the show would feature the character, six GOP
congressmen wrote a letter to PBS president Pat Mitchell saying that
the Muppet would face strong resistance if it appeared on American
TV. The lawmakers pointed out that the average age of "Sesame" viewers
in the U.S. is 2 to 4 years old: "While it is important to teach
children in an age-appropriate manner about compassion for those who
contract certain diseases, we would like to inquire as to whether
there is other PBS programming, aimed at an older age group, which may
be more suitable for such sensitive messages," the letter said. The
congressmen gave Mitchell until Friday to tell them how much money PBS
spends on "Sesame Street," how much is being spent on the new Muppet
and whether it will be introduced in the U.S., according to
Variety. The letter was signed by Rep. Billy Tauzin (R-LA), chairman
of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, and five members of his
panel. "

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:35:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21277
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:35:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBC9B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:39:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13213021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:44:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FNiqN14215 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:44:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C7BC57DF7; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 16:44:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715234448.C7BC57DF7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:44:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D32EE68.3483.1BA7E91@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              15, 2002  3:46:49 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> 1) The other night I got a call from a telemarketer as follows:
>    Me: Hello
>    He: No way!
>    Me: Pardon?
>    He: Oh, I was talking to somebody else.
>    Me: OK
>    He: Is Vladimir there?
>    Me: No
>    He: Well who are you?
>    Me: What did you want?
>    He: Dude, I asked you a question first.  You're supposed to
> answer it.
>    Me: OK, here's my answer
>    *click*
>
> I never did find out what he was offering.
> :-)

How did you know it was a telemarketer?

> 2) I just got a spam offering a book that would teach me how to
> teach my dog to talk. It's irreverent I know, but my first thought was
> "You can't teach a dead dog new tricks."

LOL!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:48:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21307
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:48:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCA11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:52:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13213340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:58:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6FNw1N15184 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:58:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9D2837FEA; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 16:58:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020715235800.9D2837FEA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:58:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715214601.A19574@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              15, 2002  9:46: 1 pm"

steph said:
> =
> =
> = > You can also poke your nose into the linuxchix mailing list.  I
> = > haven't been following the tech lists for ages now, but this is
> = > just the kind of question for there.
> =
> = Ooh, ooh!!! Thanks SOOOOO much! I didn't know there was such a thing!
> =
> = I love you, man!
> =
> = Karen
>
> :-)
>
> Now that we've sorted out that your motivation to do it is more
> or less just to play with it, I would think it matters not one
> whit which distro you choose.  I would look now for which one you
> think is going to cause the least amount of pain to get your
> hands on.  Or the one you think you can set up with the least
> amount of disk space, as that's at a premium.

If I removed the crap from my disks, disk space wouldn't be at a
premium. "Least pain" is definitely my main criterion.

> The laptop I'm on now has a 2G disk, and it's got a barebones Red
> Hat install that takes up 1G.  And we still never use it because
> Pat can't get the *&%&^* 3com wireless pcmcia card to work under
> RH.

That seems huge, but I realized I don't know how big Windows is.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:52:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21311
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:52:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCA34@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:56:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13213442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:01:59 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f241.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.241]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G01xN15493 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:01:59 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          15 Jul 2002 17:01:54 -0700
Received: from 64.152.175.96 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 00:01:53 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [64.152.175.96]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 00:01:54.0031 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[FE533FF0:01C22C5B]
Message-ID:  <F2414SnW5UZIYxCgriH0001228e@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:01:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
>A good while back we were discussing how we count laps -- that I prefer
>counting lengths (as in it's easier to count each length).

I'm not even touching this.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:53:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21318
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:53:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00129C5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:03:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13213486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:03:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G030N15592 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:03:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2D0037F28; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 17:02:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716000256.2D0037F28@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:02:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F2414SnW5UZIYxCgriH0001228e@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 15, 2002  8: 1:53 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
> >A good while back we were discussing how we count laps -- that I prefer
> >counting lengths (as in it's easier to count each length).
>
> I'm not even touching this.

Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:56:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21331
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:56:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00129C9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:06:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13213694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:06:05 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f118.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.118]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G065N15931 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:06:05 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          15 Jul 2002 17:05:59 -0700
Received: from 64.152.175.96 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 00:05:59 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [64.152.175.96]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 00:05:59.0688 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[90BF8880:01C22C5C]
Message-ID:  <F118buoQiEMAxcRCsBv0001213f@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:05:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 2nd bd party report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>Marie, I understand your point about the berries, but I disagree that
>you should cook any more of them.

It is entirely possible that my berries weren't as juicy as yours to begin
with. I'll take that under consideration. Those that I used had been hanging
out in my fridge for several days (a week even maybe) before I made the pie.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 13:56:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21335
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 13:56:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00129C9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:06:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13213698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:06:09 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G069N15935 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:06:09 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020716000603.BTAT6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:06:03 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIEDFGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:08:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: back from Ottawa, news from Ontario
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715233707.0982B7F3B@yellow.rahul.net>

> Adam Hartfield said:
> > > "Portland [Maine] has the third-largest concentration of lesbian
> > > couples in
> > > the United States, after Santa Fe, N.M., and Burlington, Vt.
> >
> > WHAT? Why, Lynn Sherr (or whatever her name was) did a big
> story on 20/20 a
> > few years ago about how Northampton, MA, was the Lesbian
> capital of the USA.
>
> What about 3rd largest don't you understand?
>
> Karen

Read for comprehension! I wasn't talking about Portland, I was talking about
Santa Fe being first and not Northampton. According to the TV report,
Northampton was supposedly first.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 14:00:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21355
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 14:00:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCAB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:04:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13213813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:10:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G0A4N16193 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:10:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 292D67F28; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 17:10:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716001004.292D67F28@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:10:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 2nd bd party report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F118buoQiEMAxcRCsBv0001213f@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 15, 2002  8: 5:59 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> >Marie, I understand your point about the berries, but I disagree that
> >you should cook any more of them.
>
> It is entirely possible that my berries weren't as juicy as yours to begin
> with. I'll take that under consideration. Those that I used had been hanging
> out in my fridge for several days (a week even maybe) before I made the pie.

Ah! That explains everything. I had two batches of blueberries, some
that were about that old, and some that I bought the day before. The
old ones were the ones that I boiled; the new ones were the ones that
went in later. The old ones looked fine to me--till I accidentally
dumped some news ones in the same pan, and the old ones suddenly
looked wizened. So I think they aren't kidding when they say 'fresh'.

I'm really glad you introduced me to this pie--I think I will be
making many more of them.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 14:02:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21359
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 14:02:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCACD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:07:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13213896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:12:46 -0400
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G0CkN16470 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:12:46 -0400
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu
          (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id
          <0.03EBCACC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:07:10 -0400
Message-ID:  <200207160012.g6G0CkN16470@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:12:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: back from Ottawa, news from Ontario
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:08:41 -0400, Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM> wrote:
>Read for comprehension!

Think about who you're talking to.

>I wasn't talking about Portland, I was talking about
>Santa Fe being first and not Northampton. According to the TV report,
>Northampton was supposedly first.

That report was when I was still living in Missouri, I thought. Which makes
it a looooooooooooong time ago.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 14:12:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21373
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 14:12:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCB1A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:17:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13213900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:22:46 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G0CkN16475 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:12:46 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AA05E69 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:12:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6G0Ckd98325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:12:46
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020712160545.C93253@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714202656.0216b7d0@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020715191246.C97382@pobox.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:12:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020714202656.0216b7d0@mail.istori.com>; from
              kaminski@ISTORI.COM on Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:40:14PM -0700

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:40:14PM -0700, Peter Kaminski wrote:
> Ward's idea of wiki wiki web is so vox populi / hoi polloi / egalitarian
> that there's no inherent concept of attribution or even
> ownership/permanence of what you've written.
>
> I don't know that he knew anything more about it than that it meant "quick"
> and is used in an airport bus name, but I don't think he'd mind it being a
> "lower class" word -- I think he'd probably like it that way.

I find three or possibly four things mixed up in here. Most
importantly, "egalitarian" has nothing to do with having no
concept of attribution, ownership, or permanence. Secondly,
if it is in fact a low-prestige word, it's pretty damn
ridiculous to like it that way--which of the "hoi polloi"
are going to like a low-prestige word to describe their
work? Someone who thinks that's cool knows little about
hoi polloi.

At any rate, it's pretty elitist:

> Wiki is not WYSIWYG (WhatYouSeeIsWhatYouGet). It's an intelligence
> test of sorts to be able to edit a wiki page. It's not rocket science,
> but it doesn't appeal to the VideoAddicts. If it doesn't appeal, they
> don't participate, which leaves those of us who read and write to get
> on with rational discourse.
>
> Wiki evolves in place. Folks have time to think, often days or weeks,
> before they follow up some wiki page. So what people write is
> well-considered.
>
> Wiki participants are, by nature, a pedantic, ornery, and unreasonable
> bunch. So there's a camaraderie here we seldom see outside of our
> professional contacts.
>
> So that's it - insecure, indiscriminate, user-hostile, slow, full of
> difficult, nit-picking people, and frivolous. Any other online community
> would count each of these strengths as a terrible flaw. Perhaps wiki
> works because the other online communities do not.

I feel like adding a node called CalifornianWankers.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 14:16:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21388
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 14:16:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCB47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:21:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13214062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:26:41 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G0GfN16803 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:16:41 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695BB60DF for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:16:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6G0Gfi98354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:16:41
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020715175037.A97382@pobox.com>
            <20020715231322.4E0E47E98@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020715191641.D97382@pobox.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:16:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715231322.4E0E47E98@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 04:13:22PM -0700

On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 04:13:22PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> Tushar Samant said:
> > You are SO jealous ... I never said you didn't yourself have
> > a DynamicASS[tm]. I am sure you do ...
>
> If this means it jiggles a lot, I may have one, too.

I said jealous, not gelous.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 14:26:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21416
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 14:26:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCBB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:30:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13214251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:36:07 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G0Q7N17429 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:26:07 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6G0Q6Uh015851 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:26:06 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207152018540.26501-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:26:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      no more sonc
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I'm out - the volatility, lack of a dividend, and no. of outstanding
options (what if options are expensed?) persuaded me to sell this morning.

If the price drops enough, I may buy more shares, perhaps doing again
what I did before - I bought 30 shares and held them through two splits,
ending up with 72.5 (after I bought 5 additional ones).

Boo-hoo! I miss being a SONC shareholder. But I will enjoy receiving the
fat check that ML will send me. My profit was something like 60-70% (I'll
calculate it later this week to the penny), and I held the original shares
only about 18 months.

But with luck, I will acquire more shares and make more money on the co. I
still think it is a good company = but certain immediate profits looked
best today. So don't boycott SONC, please!

(Because I sold another stock at a loss this year, I will have no tax
consequences on this sale.)

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 14:29:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21423
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 14:29:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCBCA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:34:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13214639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:39:44 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G0diN18313 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:39:44 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZB0088ZGI7H6@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:39:44 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020715232710.847A17FB7@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D336AF4.6030707@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:38:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

This type of dilemma would describe my great-grandfather
perfectly.



Karen Kay wrote:

> *er* came over for a while this afternoon and entertained me while I
> cleaned my bloody refrigerator. *er* told me about a friend he visited
> in Wimberly yesterday. This was so funny--I laughed so hard I ran into
> my dishwasher and hurt my leg, but I kept on laughing. Anyway. The
> story starts with *er* saying that his friend Dave, who's in his 80's,
> has told him he had something interesting to tell him, but he wouldn't
> tell him until *er* came to visit him. So. *er* gets to Dave's house,
> and the guy starts out, "I'm thinking about writing a book on
> geriatric sex." It turns out that Dave (who was a paratrooper during
> WWII), has been married 5 times. A friend of his decided to get in
> touch with Dave's 2nd wife for some reason, and in the end, she came
> to visit Dave for 3 days--and stayed for 18.:) This caused some
> problems with Dave's current live-in girlfriend... (who's now moving
> out at the end of this month).
>
> Which goes to show:  You never know what will happen.
>
> (I'm dying to meet this guy.)
>
> Karen
>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 14:31:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21435
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 14:31:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCBE6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:35:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13214673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:41:06 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G0f6N18408 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:41:06 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020716004101.JCCT29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:41:01 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEDGGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:43:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: back from Ottawa, news from Ontario
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <200207160012.g6G0CkN16470@listserv.cc.uga.edu>

> >Read for comprehension!
>
> Think about who you're talking to.

I did, that's why I said it. :)

> That report was when I was still living in Missouri, I thought.
> Which makes it a looooooooooooong time ago.

No, it was just a few years ago. 1996, from what I can find on the Web.

http://shaztilz.com/tilz/globe.htm

It doesn't seem like 1996 was very long ago.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 14:32:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21439
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 14:32:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCBF1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:36:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13214709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:42:15 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6G0gFN18509 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          20:42:15 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6G0gE4118874 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 20:42:15 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEODFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:41:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3346F5.E3B32CB1@maynor.net>

> S Hess wrote:
>
> > Yes, I'd thought about that. So many of my gay (male) friends
> tell me how
> > many married men are out there trolling for fun. Deception in
> any form is a
> > frightening thought. I'm feeling for the wives.
>
> Is it necessarily deception?  I know of some cases where males and
> females are married to each other because they really want to be for
> whatever reason, while he is also having gay relationships.  No doubt
> the same sometimes occurs when she might want gay relationships.  It
> just happens that the ones I know about are cases of he.  (And in most
> of the cases she is having hetero sex on the side.)
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

I asked my friend (who has in the past had encounters with married guys) and
he said that the men's wives did not know about their interest and sexual
activity with men.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 14:34:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21443
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 14:34:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCC07@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:38:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13214780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:44:24 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6G0iON18678 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          20:44:24 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6G0iO465906 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          20:44:24 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEODFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:43:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGCEDCGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

> > The crepes turned out perfectly. I had goat once...at a West African
> > restaurant in Los Angeles. I didn't ask what part of the goat I
> > was eating,
> > but I doubt it was the head.
> >
> > Sandra
>
> I've never had goat, but I did have mock goat curry from Nyota's Ting, the
> ethnic restaurant concession at Falcon Ridge Folk Festival. It was good.
>
> --Adam, who still hasn't decided exactly how he's attending that
> adamh1@attbi.com

Is this a tofu thing? A fake meat, pseudocarno substance?

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 14:40:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21448
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 14:40:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCC38@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:44:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13214928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:49:47 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G0nlN19068 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:49:47 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZB002EBGYYBJ@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:49:47 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
Message-ID:  <3D336D4F.6020300@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:48:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I picked up _Soul Mountain_ at the library the other day
just because the jacket said the book had won the Nobel
Prize (hey, worth a shot with that kind of cred).  It's a
Chinese road novel!  It blends perfectly with my summer
reading regimen.  I am so pleased.  Plus, the novel is
good.  Reminds me quite a bit more of _Blue Highways_ than
_On the Road_.


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 14:41:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21455
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 14:41:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCC4D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:45:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:51:16 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G0pGN19262 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:51:16 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020716005111.EFST6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:51:11 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEDHGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:53:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEODFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

> Is this a tofu thing? A fake meat, pseudocarno substance?
>
> Sandra

Yep, it was tofu. I think. I hope!

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 14:45:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21509
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 14:45:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCC73@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:49:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:54:53 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G0sqN19519 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:54:52 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZB004ESH7GK3@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:54:52 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <010C6FFA.1325B35C.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Message-ID:  <3D336E80.1090303@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:53:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Mail Oddities and Cake Stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

jbh wrote:

> Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET> wrote:
>
>
>
>>That's just for one class.  During the regular semester I
>>paid over $300.
>>
>>
>>
> For parking! Sell your car immediately.
>


:)




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 14:48:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21516
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 14:48:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCC89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:52:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:58:13 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G0wCN19740 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:58:12 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6G0wBUA004424 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:58:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D334814.9EC07D2@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020715175758.00a898a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:58:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: jh
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715231112.193CF7EAA@yellow.rahul.net>

At 04:11 PM 7/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > John, if you see Brad tomorrow be sure to wish him a Happy Birthday from
> > us. He's not talking to us.
>
>Speak for yourself! He phoned me.

Did you wish him a Happy Birthday for tomorrow?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 14:51:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21523
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 14:51:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCCA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:55:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:01:32 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G11WN19976 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:01:32 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6G11VUA015244 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:01:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020715180042.00a7f100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:01:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715232710.847A17FB7@yellow.rahul.net>

Hmm.   I heard this exact story on another list.

Betty

At 04:27 PM 7/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>*er* came over for a while this afternoon and entertained me while I
>cleaned my bloody refrigerator. *er* told me about a friend he visited
>in Wimberly yesterday. This was so funny--I laughed so hard I ran into
>my dishwasher and hurt my leg, but I kept on laughing. Anyway. The
>story starts with *er* saying that his friend Dave, who's in his 80's,
>has told him he had something interesting to tell him, but he wouldn't
>tell him until *er* came to visit him. So. *er* gets to Dave's house,
>and the guy starts out, "I'm thinking about writing a book on
>geriatric sex." It turns out that Dave (who was a paratrooper during
>WWII), has been married 5 times. A friend of his decided to get in
>touch with Dave's 2nd wife for some reason, and in the end, she came
>to visit Dave for 3 days--and stayed for 18.:) This caused some
>problems with Dave's current live-in girlfriend... (who's now moving
>out at the end of this month).
>
>Which goes to show:  You never know what will happen.
>
>(I'm dying to meet this guy.)
>
>Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:00:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21540
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:00:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCCE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:04:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:10:21 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6G1ALN20647 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          21:10:21 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6G1AK4324462 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 21:10:21 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEOFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:09:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D336D4F.6020300@swbell.net>

> I picked up _Soul Mountain_ at the library the other day
> just because the jacket said the book had won the Nobel
> Prize (hey, worth a shot with that kind of cred).  It's a
> Chinese road novel!  It blends perfectly with my summer
> reading regimen.  I am so pleased.  Plus, the novel is
> good.  Reminds me quite a bit more of _Blue Highways_ than
> _On the Road_.
> > --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman

Blue Highways is easily one of my most favorite reads. This past week the
NYTimes ran a fun piece on a guy travelling to his kid's graduation by
Vanagan (sp?). I want to do that one year..... Take three or so months and
travel in a Vanagan. They also ran a piece on travelling in an RV. The
Vanagan experience seemed like the better bet. I adore road trips.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:01:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21544
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:01:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCCEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:05:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:10:58 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6G1AwN20719 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          21:10:58 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6G1Av4268214 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 21:10:57 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEOGFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:10:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEDHGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

> > Is this a tofu thing? A fake meat, pseudocarno substance?
> >
> > Sandra
>
> Yep, it was tofu. I think. I hope!
>
> --Adam
> adamh1@attbi.com

Are you a vegetarian or was it just something new and different to try?

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:01:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21546
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:01:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00129FD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:10:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:10:58 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1AwN20717 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:10:58 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.27]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZBHWC03.I0L for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:09:48 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020715232710.847A17FB7@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D33728E.62C56A23@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:10:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> (I'm dying to meet this guy.)

    Keep your knees together.

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:01:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21552
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:01:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00129FDE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:11:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:11:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1BON20803 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:11:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 051337F33; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 18:11:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716011123.051337F33@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:11:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715191641.D97382@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Jul 15,
              2002  7:16:41 pm"

Tushar Samant said:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 04:13:22PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> > Tushar Samant said:
> > > You are SO jealous ... I never said you didn't yourself have
> > > a DynamicASS[tm]. I am sure you do ...
> >
> > If this means it jiggles a lot, I may have one, too.
>
> I said jealous, not gelous.

LOL. I love you, man!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:02:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21556
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:02:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCD04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:07:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:12:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1CgN20914 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:12:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3BE1C7F33; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 18:12:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716011241.3BE1C7F33@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:12:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D336AF4.6030707@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 15,
              2002  7:38:12 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> This type of dilemma would describe my great-grandfather
> perfectly.

Cool! I want to meet him, too.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:04:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21560
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:04:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCD08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:08:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:14:10 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1EAN20998 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:14:10 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 645217F33; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 18:14:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716011409.645217F33@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:14:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: back from Ottawa, news from Ontario
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEDGGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 15, 2002  8:43:38 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> It doesn't seem like 1996 was very long ago.

Long enough for all the lesbians to move to Santa Fe.:)

Maybe it has to do with %age of pop? Because SF is bigger.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:05:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21564
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:05:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCD12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:09:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:15:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1FDN21097 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:15:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E06CB7F9D; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 18:15:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716011509.E06CB7F9D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:15:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D336D4F.6020300@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 15,
              2002  7:48:15 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> I picked up _Soul Mountain_ at the library the other day
> just because the jacket said the book had won the Nobel
> Prize (hey, worth a shot with that kind of cred).  It's a
> Chinese road novel!  It blends perfectly with my summer
> reading regimen.  I am so pleased.  Plus, the novel is
> good.  Reminds me quite a bit more of _Blue Highways_ than
> _On the Road_.

Now I want to read it.

How did you like OTR?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:05:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21568
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:05:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCD17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:10:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:15:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1FhN21154 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:15:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DE2CA7F7D; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 18:15:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716011542.DE2CA7F7D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:15:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: jh
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020715175758.00a898a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 15, 2002  5:58:17 pm"

Betty said:
> At 04:11 PM 7/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Betty said:
> > > John, if you see Brad tomorrow be sure to wish him a Happy Birthday from
> > > us. He's not talking to us.
> >
> >Speak for yourself! He phoned me.
>
> Did you wish him a Happy Birthday for tomorrow?

No--he phoned me last week.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:06:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21572
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:06:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012A020@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:16:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:16:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1GSN21209 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:16:28 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3ED447E00; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 18:16:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716011603.3ED447E00@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:16:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020715180042.00a7f100@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 15, 2002  6: 1:36 pm"

Betty said:
> Hmm.   I heard this exact story on another list.

YOU DID NOT!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:06:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21576
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:06:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCD1B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:11:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:16:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1GZN21214 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:16:35 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 622797FF2; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 18:16:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716011634.622797FF2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:16:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEOFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 15, 2002  6: 9:40 pm"

S Hess said:
> Vanagan (sp?).

Vanagon.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:08:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21580
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:08:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCD2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:12:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:18:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1I7N21355 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:18:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E04888013; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 18:17:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716011717.E04888013@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:17:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D33728E.62C56A23@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at
              "Jul 15, 2002  6:10:38 pm"

John Williams said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > (I'm dying to meet this guy.)
>
>     Keep your knees together.

LOL! *er* has promised to introduce me, but I don't know if he'll
follow through.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:09:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21585
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:09:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCD31@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:13:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:19:02 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6G1J2N21415 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          21:19:02 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6G1J14425558 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 21:19:01 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEOHFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:18:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716011509.E06CB7F9D@yellow.rahul.net>

> Rita Chapman said:
> > I picked up _Soul Mountain_ at the library the other day
> > just because the jacket said the book had won the Nobel
> > Prize (hey, worth a shot with that kind of cred).  It's a
> > Chinese road novel!  It blends perfectly with my summer
> > reading regimen.  I am so pleased.  Plus, the novel is
> > good.  Reminds me quite a bit more of _Blue Highways_ than
> > _On the Road_.
>
> Now I want to read it.
>
> How did you like OTR?
>
> Karen

Another favorite along these lines is Travels with Charley. I adore that
one, too.

Sch.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:13:45 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21598
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:13:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012A07C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:23:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:23:33 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1NXN21772 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:23:33 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6G1NWUA016487 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:23:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020715180042.00a7f100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020715182251.00a94500@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:23:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716011603.3ED447E00@yellow.rahul.net>

At 06:16 PM 7/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > Hmm.   I heard this exact story on another list.
>
>YOU DID NOT!

Yes, I did.  It's a joke he told you , Karen.  You need to get a grip.
Oleander is pulling your leg.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:18:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21610
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:18:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012A0BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:28:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13215828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:28:28 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1ISN21361 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:18:28 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0316093 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:18:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6G1IRe02882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:18:27
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020715191641.D97382@pobox.com>
            <20020716011123.051337F33@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020715201827.A2833@pobox.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:18:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716011123.051337F33@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 06:11:23PM -0700

On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 06:11:23PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> Tushar Samant said:
> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 04:13:22PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> > > Tushar Samant said:
> > > > You are SO jealous ... I never said you didn't yourself have
> > > > a DynamicASS[tm]. I am sure you do ...
> > >
> > > If this means it jiggles a lot, I may have one, too.
> >
> > I said jealous, not gelous.
>
> LOL. I love you, man!

Don't thank me, thank "Ken Miller".

BTW your tight ass looks great in those khakis!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:27:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21618
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:27:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012A136@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:37:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13216433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:37:13 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1bDN22952 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:37:13 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZB001Q2J60WA@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:37:12 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
Message-ID:  <3D33786D.9040704@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:35:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

PBS had a show last night, and now I want to go to Namibia
for vacation :).

--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:29:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21625
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:29:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCDFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:33:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13216497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:38:56 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1ctN23035 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:38:55 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E25197EE2; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 18:38:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716013854.E25197EE2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:38:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020715182251.00a94500@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 15, 2002  6:23:37 pm"

Betty said:
> At 06:16 PM 7/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Betty said:
> > > Hmm.   I heard this exact story on another list.
> >
> >YOU DID NOT!
>
> Yes, I did.  It's a joke he told you , Karen.  You need to get a grip.
> Oleander is pulling your leg.

If he is, I really do need to know this, Betty, because he's seriously
hallucinating details of this guy's life. So, provide a cite, please.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:29:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21629
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:29:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCE08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:33:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13216539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:39:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1dON23080 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:39:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 069937EE2; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 18:39:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716013923.069937EE2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:39:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D33786D.9040704@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 15,
              2002  8:35:41 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> PBS had a show last night, and now I want to go to Namibia
> for vacation :).

Oh, dear. Why?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:35:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21639
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:35:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCE48@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:39:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13216769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:45:24 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1jON23747 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:45:24 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-113.panax.com
          [65.114.190.113]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6G1jMj25453 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          21:45:23 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020715105025.00a07840@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020715214407.009fdec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:45:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: back from Ottawa, news from Ontario
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEDDGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

> > "Portland [Maine] has the third-largest concentration of lesbian
> > couples in
> > the United States, after Santa Fe, N.M., and Burlington, Vt.
>
>WHAT? Why, Lynn Sherr (or whatever her name was) did a big story on 20/20 a
>few years ago about how Northampton, MA, was the Lesbian capital of the USA.
>--Adam
>adamh1@attbi.com

Notice that the story I quoted talks about Lesbian <couples> rather than
just lesbians.  The story talked about couples raising families and such.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:35:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21646
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:35:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012A1B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:45:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13216773 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:45:32 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1jSN23751 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:45:31 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020716014522.ULEG8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 01:45:22 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020714202656.0216b7d0@mail.istori.com>
            <20020712160545.C93253@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714202656.0216b7d0@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020715181038.025c00f0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:39:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715191246.C97382@pobox.com>

Tushar Samant writes,

>if it is in fact a low-prestige word, it's pretty damn
>ridiculous to like it that way--which of the "hoi polloi"
>are going to like a low-prestige word to describe their
>work?

You moved from "lower class" to "low-prestige" pretty quickly.

>At any rate, it's pretty elitist:

Read the very first writing on that page: "Any and all information can be
deleted by anyone, including yourself. Yes, you!"

>I feel like adding a node called CalifornianWankers.

"LeftCoastWankers" might be better, unless you mean "Californian" as a
state of mind.  Ward lives in Portland, Oregon.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:37:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21650
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:37:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012A1CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:47:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13216820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:47:27 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1lON23877 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:47:24 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020716014715.NKSO24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 01:47:15 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020715184128.024345d0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:42:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D33786D.9040704@swbell.net>

Rita Chapman writes,

>PBS had a show last night, and now I want to go to Namibia
>for vacation :).

Johanne spent a summer there back in the '80s, and loved it.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:42:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21655
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:42:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012A206@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:52:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13216897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:52:14 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6G1qEN24138 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          21:52:14 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6G1qD4398416 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 21:52:13 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEOJFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:51:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716013854.E25197EE2@yellow.rahul.net>

> Betty said:
> > At 06:16 PM 7/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Betty said:
> > > > Hmm.   I heard this exact story on another list.
> > >
> > >YOU DID NOT!
> >
> > Yes, I did.  It's a joke he told you , Karen.  You need to get a grip.
> > Oleander is pulling your leg.
>
> If he is, I really do need to know this, Betty, because he's seriously
> hallucinating details of this guy's life. So, provide a cite, please.
>
> Karen

Now *this* is interesting. Is it a strange coincidence or is he playing you?

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:49:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21708
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:49:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012A27C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:59:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13217113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:59:18 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G1xIN24630 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:59:18 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZB001PMK6TIP@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:59:18 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020716013923.069937EE2@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D337D9A.80500@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:57:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>PBS had a show last night, and now I want to go to Namibia
>>for vacation :).
>>
>
> Oh, dear. Why?


It just looks great.  Neat little towns, all that desert,
penguins on the beach.  jh will no doubt tell me I'm insane,
but it looked like a great place to visit to me.  I'm not
sure I would want to do the African interior, but I could
really go for a place with beaches.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:52:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21731
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:52:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCEF1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:56:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13217267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:02:18 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G22IN24928 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:02:18 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws203-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.203]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6G22Eq04982
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:02:14 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020715233058.4B36E7F9F@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D337E9F.97DBDD3F@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:02:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > Has Dave read much Yeats?
>
> Why?

He was into old-age sex.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:55:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21747
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:55:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCF0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:59:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13217387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:05:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G251N25223 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:05:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 642288031; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:05:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716020500.642288031@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:05:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEOJFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 15, 2002  6:51:33 pm"

S Hess said:
> > Betty said:
> > > At 06:16 PM 7/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >Betty said:
> > > > > Hmm.   I heard this exact story on another list.
> > > >
> > > >YOU DID NOT!
> > >
> > > Yes, I did.  It's a joke he told you , Karen.  You need to get a grip.
> > > Oleander is pulling your leg.
> >
> > If he is, I really do need to know this, Betty, because he's seriously
> > hallucinating details of this guy's life. So, provide a cite, please.
> >
> > Karen
>
> Now *this* is interesting. Is it a strange coincidence or is he playing you?

I believe that Betty is the one trying to 'play' me.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:55:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21751
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:55:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCF21@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:59:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13217430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:05:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G25TN25278 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:05:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws203-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.203]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6G25Rq05799
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:05:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F2414SnW5UZIYxCgriH0001228e@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D337F64.DB5D95EB@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:05:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

> >A good while back we were discussing how we count laps -- that I prefer
> >counting lengths (as in it's easier to count each length).
>
> I'm not even touching this.

??  The point of my posting was simply to say that I now just swim for
lengths of time, not counting anything, just looking at the clocks on
the wall.  Not that I think you particularly <need> to touch the
subject, but I don't really understand why you responded.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:56:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21755
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:56:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012A2E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:05:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13217443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:05:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G25vN25317 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:05:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 818E781FD; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:05:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716020556.818E781FD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:05:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D337D9A.80500@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 15,
              2002  8:57:46 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Rita Chapman said:
> >
> >>PBS had a show last night, and now I want to go to Namibia
> >>for vacation :).
> >>
> >
> > Oh, dear. Why?
>
>
> It just looks great.  Neat little towns, all that desert,
> penguins on the beach.  jh will no doubt tell me I'm insane,

jbh

> but it looked like a great place to visit to me.  I'm not
> sure I would want to do the African interior, but I could
> really go for a place with beaches.

Okay. I'm not a desert fan, but I am a fan of the beach.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:56:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21759
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:56:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCF3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:00:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13217504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:06:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G26TN25387 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:06:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 35EEC81A7; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:06:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716020628.35EEC81A7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:06:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D337E9F.97DBDD3F@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 15,
              2002  9: 2: 7 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > Has Dave read much Yeats?
> >
> > Why?
>
> He was into old-age sex.

Ah. I don't believe Dave has to read Yeats to be that way.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:57:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21763
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:57:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCF3E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:01:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13217527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:06:50 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G26oN25459 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:06:50 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws203-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.203]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6G26kq06119
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:06:47 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716000256.2D0037F28@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D337FB4.9776F92E@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:06:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> Marie Ascher said:
> > >From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
> > >A good while back we were discussing how we count laps -- that I prefer
> > >counting lengths (as in it's easier to count each length).
> >
> > I'm not even touching this.
>
> Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.

I don't get this at all.  Why do y'all care whether I watch the clock or
count lengths or count laps when swimming???

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:57:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21767
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:57:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCF42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:01:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13217543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:07:24 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G27MN25534 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:07:22 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-113.panax.com
          [65.114.190.113]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6G27Ij29145 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          22:07:19 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <4.2.2.20020715180042.00a7f100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020715220533.009fcda0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:06:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716011603.3ED447E00@yellow.rahul.net>

>Betty said:
> > Hmm.   I heard this exact story on another list.
>
>YOU DID NOT!
>Karen

Betty's confused.  Actually, you, Karen, told the same story on words-l
today twice.  I came home from Inn-sitting to 206 pieces of mail.  Here's
how you told it the first time:

"P.S. to Boo: *er* came over today, and we went out in the backyard and
he told me I needed to trim my tree, and I agreed, and he offered to
do it for a beer, so I got him the saw and supervised, and he only cut
the things that I thought needed to be cut. Very different behavior
from that of My New Friend.
Also, *er* told me about a friend of his who is in his 80's, who was a
paratrooper in WWII, and who was married 5 times, and who recently got
back together with his 2nd wife. (He was originally married to her 45
years ago.) She came to visit him for 3 days recently, and stayed for
18... And he's going to write a book on geriatric sex.:)
Karen"



    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:57:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21771
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:57:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCF47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:02:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13217552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:07:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G27gN25556 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:07:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0BC037ED2; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:07:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716020739.0BC037ED2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:07:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D337FB4.9776F92E@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 15,
              2002  9: 6:44 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Marie Ascher said:
> > > >From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
> > > >A good while back we were discussing how we count laps -- that I prefer
> > > >counting lengths (as in it's easier to count each length).
> > >
> > > I'm not even touching this.
> >
> > Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
>
> I don't get this at all.  Why do y'all care whether I watch the clock or
> count lengths or count laps when swimming???

I don't. At all.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 15:59:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21775
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 15:59:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCF51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:03:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13217576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:08:58 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G28vN25646 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:08:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E9A1A7F6C; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:08:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716020856.E9A1A7F6C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:08:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020715220533.009fcda0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 15, 2002 10: 6:56 pm"

bonniev said:
> >Betty said:
> > > Hmm.   I heard this exact story on another list.
> >
> >YOU DID NOT!
> >Karen
>
> Betty's confused.

Or tweaking me.

> Actually, you, Karen, told the same story on words-l
> today twice.

Thank you.

I am seriously concerned about my brain.

I will go shoot myself now.

Goodbye forever.

Ka

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:06:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21785
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:06:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCF84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:10:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13217706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:16:22 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G2GLN26152 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:16:22 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6G2GJUA023808 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:16:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020715182251.00a94500@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020715191537.00a94580@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:16:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716013854.E25197EE2@yellow.rahul.net>

At 06:38 PM 7/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > At 06:16 PM 7/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Betty said:
> > > > Hmm.   I heard this exact story on another list.
> > >
> > >YOU DID NOT!
> >
> > Yes, I did.  It's a joke he told you , Karen.  You need to get a grip.
> > Oleander is pulling your leg.
>
>If he is, I really do need to know this, Betty, because he's seriously
>hallucinating details of this guy's life. So, provide a cite, please.

  I read this same story at work. It's deleted.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:07:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21793
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:07:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012A36B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:17:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13217719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:17:15 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G2HFN26220 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:17:15 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6G2HCUA025486 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:17:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEOJFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020715191634.00a8b7b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:17:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716020500.642288031@yellow.rahul.net>

At 07:05 PM 7/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>S Hess said:
> > > Betty said:
> > > > At 06:16 PM 7/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > > > >Betty said:
> > > > > > Hmm.   I heard this exact story on another list.
> > > > >
> > > > >YOU DID NOT!
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I did.  It's a joke he told you , Karen.  You need to get a grip.
> > > > Oleander is pulling your leg.
> > >
> > > If he is, I really do need to know this, Betty, because he's seriously
> > > hallucinating details of this guy's life. So, provide a cite, please.
> > >
> > > Karen
> >
> > Now *this* is interesting. Is it a strange coincidence or is he playing
> you?
>
>I believe that Betty is the one trying to 'play' me.

Nope, but do you really find the story that amusing?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:08:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21797
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:08:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCF8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:12:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13217740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:18:14 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G2IDN26276 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:18:13 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6G2IBUA023186 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:18:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020716011603.3ED447E00@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020715180042.00a7f100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020715191732.00a964a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:18:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020715220533.009fcda0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

At 10:06 PM 7/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>Betty said:
>> > Hmm.   I heard this exact story on another list.
>>
>>YOU DID NOT!
>>Karen
>
>Betty's confused.  Actually, you, Karen, told the same story on words-l
>today twice.  I came home from Inn-sitting to 206 pieces of mail.  Here's
>how you told it the first time:
>
>"P.S. to Boo: *er* came over today, and we went out in the backyard and
>he told me I needed to trim my tree, and I agreed, and he offered to
>do it for a beer, so I got him the saw and supervised, and he only cut
>the things that I thought needed to be cut. Very different behavior
>from that of My New Friend.
>Also, *er* told me about a friend of his who is in his 80's, who was a
>paratrooper in WWII, and who was married 5 times, and who recently got
>back together with his 2nd wife. (He was originally married to her 45
>years ago.) She came to visit him for 3 days recently, and stayed for
>18... And he's going to write a book on geriatric sex.:)
>Karen"

Ah.  I knew I read it before.  :-)  Didn't believe it then either.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:13:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21807
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:13:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBCFC4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:17:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13217884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:22:47 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6G2MlN26690 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          22:22:47 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6G2Ml4238418 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 22:22:47 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEOMFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:22:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020715220533.009fcda0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

> >Betty said:
> > > Hmm.   I heard this exact story on another list.
> >
> >YOU DID NOT!
> >Karen
>
> Betty's confused.  Actually, you, Karen, told the same story on words-l
> today twice.  I came home from Inn-sitting to 206 pieces of mail.  Here's
> how you told it the first time:
>
> "P.S. to Boo: *er* came over today, and we went out in the backyard and
> he told me I needed to trim my tree, and I agreed, and he offered to
> do it for a beer, so I got him the saw and supervised, and he only cut
> the things that I thought needed to be cut. Very different behavior
> from that of My New Friend.
> Also, *er* told me about a friend of his who is in his 80's, who was a
> paratrooper in WWII, and who was married 5 times, and who recently got
> back together with his 2nd wife. (He was originally married to her 45
> years ago.) She came to visit him for 3 days recently, and stayed for
> 18... And he's going to write a book on geriatric sex.:)
> Karen"
>
>
>
>     --bonniev

Yes, this is true.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:26:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21838
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:26:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD075@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:30:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13218160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:36:34 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G2aYN27744 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:36:34 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws82-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.82]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6G2aVq15091
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:36:32 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3386AC.E19A09F7@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:36:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > >Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.

> > I don't get this at all.  Why do y'all care whether I watch the clock or
> > count lengths or count laps when swimming???

> I don't. At all.

Well, then we're even.  I don't give a shit about your pilates drivel
either.  At least my comment about my exercise didn't waste as much
bandwidth as your constant postings on the subject do.  Nor have I felt
the need (before now) to tell you that I would thank you from the bottom
of my heart if you would refrain from boring me with your exercise
postings.  Actually, I'd never really cared that much.  I just hit
delete when I see the beginnings of your pilates junk.  Perhaps you
could learn to do the same if I mention swimming?  Nevermind.  I'll just
not mention it again.  We must stick to <important> topics on Words-L --
i.e., Karen's interests.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:33:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21850
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:33:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012A4A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:43:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13218306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:43:01 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6G2gxN28155 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:42:59 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA27871
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          19:42:58 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 781C797010 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:42:45 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 27787 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2002 02:42:44 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 16 Jul 2002 02:42:45 -0000
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130301b959343aff67@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:42:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Q of the Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715172235.EE7037F41@yellow.rahul.net>

>How did Lytton Strachey revolutionize the art of biography?
>
>Karen

Through diegesis.

Gilbert G. Smith School of Historiography

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:35:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21857
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:35:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD0B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:39:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13218378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:45:23 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6G2jNN28308 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          22:45:23 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6G2jM4246966 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul
          2002 22:45:22 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEONFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:44:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Q of the Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130301b959343aff67@[198.144.202.197]>

> >How did Lytton Strachey revolutionize the art of biography?
> >
> >Karen
>
> Through diegesis.
>
> Gilbert G. Smith School of Historiography

Gesundheit!

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:43:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21877
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:43:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD136@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:47:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13218768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:53:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G2r1N29032 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:53:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 28A2E7ED2; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:53:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716025300.28A2E7ED2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:52:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020715191634.00a8b7b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 15, 2002  7:17:17 pm"

Betty said:
> Nope, but do you really find the story that amusing?

Yes. It cracked me up. I was nearly ROFLing (till I hit my leg on the
dishwasher). I think it's good evidence that where there's life
there's hope.

You don't find it funny?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:43:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21884
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:43:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD13F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:47:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13218798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:53:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G2rQN29072 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:53:26 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5E557807E; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:53:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716025325.5E557807E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:53:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020715191732.00a964a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 15, 2002  7:18:16 pm"

Betty said:
> Ah.  I knew I read it before.  :-)  Didn't believe it then either.

Why don't you believe it?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:43:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21888
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:43:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD140@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:47:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13218802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:53:34 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6G2rXN29077 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:53:33 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA00304
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          19:53:29 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A57A697007 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:53:28 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 290 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2002 02:53:28 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 16 Jul 2002 02:53:28 -0000
References: <20020715213831.8743B7D98@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130305b95937d8d8e8@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:53:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D33465B.CF59746C@uclink.berkeley.edu>

>> I love Ken Miller! He is my most reliable source of new words.
>
>But would you date him?
>
>Betty

She already showed me her breasts.  What more could I ask for?

Ken Miller
William Coolidge School of Voyeurism

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:45:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21897
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:45:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD172@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:49:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13218935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:54:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G2soN29172 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:54:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7CE968064; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:54:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716025449.7CE968064@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:54:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3386AC.E19A09F7@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 15,
              2002  9:36:28 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > >Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
>
> > > I don't get this at all.  Why do y'all care whether I watch the clock or
> > > count lengths or count laps when swimming???
>
> > I don't. At all.
>
> Well, then we're even.  I don't give a shit about your pilates drivel
> either.  At least my comment about my exercise didn't waste as much
> bandwidth as your constant postings on the subject do.  Nor have I felt
> the need (before now) to tell you that I would thank you from the bottom
> of my heart if you would refrain from boring me with your exercise
> postings.  Actually, I'd never really cared that much.  I just hit
> delete when I see the beginnings of your pilates junk.  Perhaps you
> could learn to do the same if I mention swimming?  Nevermind.  I'll just
> not mention it again.  We must stick to <important> topics on Words-L --
> i.e., Karen's interests.

It's not the swimming. It's the pointless back and forth of the
discussion.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:46:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21901
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:46:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD1AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:51:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13219099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:56:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G2ubN29325 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:56:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DFCE382B8; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:56:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716025636.DFCE382B8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:56:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130305b95937d8d8e8@[198.144.202.197]> from Bookrat at "Jul
              15, 2002  7:53:22 pm"

Bookrat said:
> >> I love Ken Miller! He is my most reliable source of new words.
> >
> >But would you date him?
> >
> >Betty
>
> She already showed me her breasts.  What more could I ask for?

You know, if I told Betty the story, she wouldn't believe it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:47:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21905
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:47:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012A58C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:57:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13219105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:57:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G2v0N29336 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:57:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5FB707F3E; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:56:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716025656.5FB707F3E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:56:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Q of the Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130301b959343aff67@[198.144.202.197]> from Bookrat at "Jul
              15, 2002  7:42:37 pm"

Bookrat said:
> >How did Lytton Strachey revolutionize the art of biography?
> >
> >Karen
>
> Through diegesis.
>
> Gilbert G. Smith School of Historiography

:)))))))))))))

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:48:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21909
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:48:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD1D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:52:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13219221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:57:53 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G2vqN29453 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:57:52 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6G2vnUA013447 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:57:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020715191634.00a8b7b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020715195740.00a85c60@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:57:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716025300.28A2E7ED2@yellow.rahul.net>

At 07:52 PM 7/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > Nope, but do you really find the story that amusing?
>
>Yes. It cracked me up. I was nearly ROFLing (till I hit my leg on the
>dishwasher). I think it's good evidence that where there's life
>there's hope.
>
>You don't find it funny?

Not either time.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:49:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21913
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:49:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD23F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:54:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13219546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 22:59:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G2xaN29680 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:59:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 802C37C78; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 19:59:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716025932.802C37C78@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:59:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Windows Woes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

This is actually for a friend--not *er*, but Susan. She changed her
password on her work computer and seems have unreplicatably typoed.
She's willing to do a format of the hard disk and re-install the OS
(W2K), but we're wondering if this will work. Any ideas/experience?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:50:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21921
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:50:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD27F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:54:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13219753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 23:00:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G308N29854 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:00:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A4AE77E49; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:00:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716030007.A4AE77E49@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:00:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020715195740.00a85c60@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 15, 2002  7:57:54 pm"

Betty said:
> At 07:52 PM 7/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Betty said:
> > > Nope, but do you really find the story that amusing?
> >
> >Yes. It cracked me up. I was nearly ROFLing (till I hit my leg on the
> >dishwasher). I think it's good evidence that where there's life
> >there's hope.
> >
> >You don't find it funny?
>
> Not either time.

I'm sorry.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:51:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21925
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:51:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD355@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:55:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13220415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 23:01:28 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G31RN30264 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:01:27 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6G31OUA020220 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:01:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <v03130305b95937d8d8e8@[198.144.202.197]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020715200048.00a81570@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:01:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716025636.DFCE382B8@yellow.rahul.net>

At 07:56 PM 7/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Bookrat said:
> > >> I love Ken Miller! He is my most reliable source of new words.
> > >
> > >But would you date him?
> > >
> > >Betty
> >
> > She already showed me her breasts.  What more could I ask for?
>
>You know, if I told Betty the story, she wouldn't believe it.

Janet took him into the closet to show hers.  He came out smiling.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:52:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21929
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:52:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD3EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:56:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13220847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 23:02:11 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G32BN30526 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:02:11 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7CD6D809F; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:02:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716030210.7CD6D809F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:02:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020715200048.00a81570@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 15, 2002  8: 1:28 pm"

Betty said:
> At 07:56 PM 7/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Bookrat said:
> > > >> I love Ken Miller! He is my most reliable source of new words.
> > > >
> > > >But would you date him?
> > > >
> > > >Betty
> > >
> > > She already showed me her breasts.  What more could I ask for?
> >
> >You know, if I told Betty the story, she wouldn't believe it.
>
> Janet took him into the closet to show hers.  He came out smiling.

I showed him mine in the front seat of my car.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 16:59:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21946
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 16:59:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012A81C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:09:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13223317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 23:09:18 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G39IN32066 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:09:18 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6G39CB28877 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:09:12 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207152208310.28427-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:09:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716011603.3ED447E00@yellow.rahul.net>

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> Betty said:
> > Hmm.   I heard this exact story on another list.
>
> YOU DID NOT!

I really really want to know the truth on this one. Because if Betty is
lying SHE'S THE BEST!

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 17:01:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21959
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 17:01:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD780@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:05:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13223475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 23:11:22 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G3BLN32260 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:11:21 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6G3BKs29224 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:11:20 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207152210340.28427-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:11:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D337E9F.97DBDD3F@maynor.net>

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > > Has Dave read much Yeats?
> >
> > Why?
>
> He was into old-age sex.

I think he's turning - oh well let's rev it up - wanking! in his grave
right now.

If he could read words-l.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 17:08:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21964
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 17:08:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012A8A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:18:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13223807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 23:18:27 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G3IQN00306 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:18:26 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6G3IOA29539 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:18:24 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207152215240.29320-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:18:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020715180042.00a7f100@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> >and the guy starts out, "I'm thinking about writing a book on
> >geriatric sex." It turns out that Dave (who was a paratrooper during
> >WWII), has been married 5 times. A friend of his decided to get in
> >touch with Dave's 2nd wife for some reason, and in the end, she came
> >to visit Dave for 3 days--and stayed for 18.:) This caused some
> >problems with Dave's current live-in girlfriend... (who's now moving
> >out at the end of this month).

I actually didn't read this before posting before on this thread.

Now I'm wondering, what's so fucking funny, K****?  That an 80 year old
had sex?  Had a live-in girlfriend?

Huh?  Huh?

The guy of course is an asshole thinking that he has something to tell.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 17:10:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21971
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 17:10:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012A8B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:19:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13223837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 23:19:50 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6G3JoN00382 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:19:50 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA03956
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          20:19:48 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B819597005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:19:47 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 3946 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2002 03:19:47 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 16 Jul 2002 03:19:47 -0000
References: <4.2.2.20020715200048.00a81570@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at  
            "Jul 15, 2002  8: 1:28 pm"
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v0313030cb9594076df20@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:19:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716030210.7CD6D809F@yellow.rahul.net>

>> > > She already showed me her breasts.  What more could I ask for?
>> >
>> >You know, if I told Betty the story, she wouldn't believe it.
>>
>> Janet took him into the closet to show hers.  He came out smiling.
>
>I showed him mine in the front seat of my car.
>
>Karen

Outside of a restaurant, even.  On a fairly busy street.

Betty, of all people, should have gotten the reference to William Coolidge.

Ken Miller
Enigmatic Correspondent
The Lostin Times

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 17:15:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21989
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 17:15:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD812@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:20:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13223956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 23:25:39 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6G3PdN00679 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          23:25:39 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KAC00463; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:25:38 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KKC00435; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:25:37 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D330532.8088.61E0CF@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:24:02 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Windows Woes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716025932.802C37C78@yellow.rahul.net>

On 15 Jul 2002 at 19:59, Karen Kay wrote:

> This is actually for a friend--not *er*, but Susan. She changed her
> password on her work computer and seems have unreplicatably typoed.
> She's willing to do a format of the hard disk and re-install the OS
> (W2K), but we're wondering if this will work. Any ideas/experience?

First thing is to make sure she didn't inadvertently have the caps lock key engaged when she entered the new password.
Sometimes it's a simple as that. Are there no other accounts on the machine with administrator privileges?


   mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 17:18:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21993
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 17:18:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD829@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:22:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13224030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 23:27:46 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G3RkN00806 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:27:46 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F11F37FE0; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:27:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716032744.F11F37FE0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:27:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207152215240.29320-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 15, 2002 10:18:24 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> Now I'm wondering, what's so fucking funny, K****?  That an 80 year old
> had sex?  Had a live-in girlfriend?
>
> Huh?  Huh?

I find it sweet and surprising that 45 years later he rediscovered
this woman he was married to before. I think it's sweet that it was so
good that this woman came for 3 days and stayed for 18. It's not
funny, but it made me laugh because it's all so unexpected.

> The guy of course is an asshole thinking that he has something to tell.

I think if someone asks you what's new, that this qualifies.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 17:19:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22000
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 17:19:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD83C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:23:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13224088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 23:28:46 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G3SkN00961 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:28:46 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AFF8D7FE0; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:28:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716032842.AFF8D7FE0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:28:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v0313030cb9594076df20@[198.144.202.197]> from Bookrat at "Jul
              15, 2002  8:19:38 pm"

Bookrat said:
> Betty, of all people, should have gotten the reference to William Coolidge.

You did a good Calvin Coolidge imitation when I asked you if you
wanted to see my breasts, though.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 17:20:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22004
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 17:20:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012A935@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:29:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13224101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 23:29:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G3TmN00995 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:29:48 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 281D1849C; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:29:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716032948.281D1849C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:29:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Windows Woes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D330532.8088.61E0CF@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 15, 2002  5:24: 2 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> First thing is to make sure she didn't inadvertently have the caps lock key engaged when she entered the new password.

Sorry, I asked her this, if she could recreate the typo.

> Sometimes it's a simple as that. Are there no other accounts on the machine with administrator privileges?

Nope.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 17:37:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22027
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 17:37:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD8F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:41:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13224620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 23:47:28 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6G3lSN02037 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          23:47:28 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KAC02275; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:47:27 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KKC02059; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:47:25 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D330532.8088.61E0CF@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
            "Jul 15, 2002  5:24: 2 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D330A57.12296.75F947@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:45:59 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Windows Woes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716032948.281D1849C@yellow.rahul.net>

On 15 Jul 2002 at 20:29, Karen Kay wrote:

> Sorry, I asked her this, if she could recreate the typo.

You simply asked her if she could recreate the typo or specifically whether she tried to type the new password in all caps? I'm not sure everyone would consider
that a typo. I've done this often enough that I know how easy it is.

> Nope.

Even if she has to reinstall the operating system, it shouldn't be necessary to reformat the drive. There are some third-party password-recovery programs, if it's
worth that effort, but I don't recall any details. Maybe Pete does.


   mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 17:42:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22040
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 17:42:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012AA52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:52:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13224859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 23:51:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G3pxN02547 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:51:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 036A6863C; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:50:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716035036.036A6863C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:50:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Windows Woes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D330A57.12296.75F947@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 15, 2002  5:45:59 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 15 Jul 2002 at 20:29, Karen Kay wrote:
> > Sorry, I asked her this, if she could recreate the typo.
>
> You simply asked her if she could recreate the typo or specifically whether she tried to type the new password in all caps? I'm not sure everyone would consider
> that a typo. I've done this often enough that I know how easy it is.

She said she tried reversing caps and smalls.

> Even if she has to reinstall the operating system, it shouldn't be necessary to reformat the drive. There are some third-party password-recovery programs, if it's
> worth that effort, but I don't recall any details. Maybe Pete does.

No, I don't think so. I was concerned that she COULD reinstall the
operating system without being able to uninstall the previous
version. I've never tried this.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 17:44:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22052
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 17:44:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD95E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:48:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13225053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 23:54:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G3s9N02939 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:54:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BE2247DF6; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:54:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716035408.BE2247DF6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:54:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: OxyClean
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020715102305.00ba0d68@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 15, 2002 10:23:26 am"

Espen Ore said:
> 20:59 13.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> >The bloodstain is incredibly messy--he is a mess of scabs to start
> >with, and I watched him acquire another one tonight,  when he cut his
> >thumb on a sword.
>
> This spunds like quite a party.

What can I say, life is an adventure.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 17:48:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22064
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 17:48:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD9A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:52:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13225257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 23:58:13 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6G3wDN03230 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002
          23:58:13 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KAC03141; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:58:12 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KKC02840; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:58:10 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D330A57.12296.75F947@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
            "Jul 15, 2002  5:45:59 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D330CDC.2716.7FD04A@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:56:44 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Windows Woes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716035036.036A6863C@yellow.rahul.net>

On 15 Jul 2002 at 20:50, Karen Kay wrote:

> I was concerned that she COULD reinstall the operating system without
> being able to uninstall the previous version. I've never tried this.

It can be done. I did it within the last two weeks.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 17:50:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22071
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 17:50:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBD9C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:54:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13225364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 23:59:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G3xrN03322 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:59:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E2FBD7ED4; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 20:59:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716035952.E2FBD7ED4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:59:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Windows Woes
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D330CDC.2716.7FD04A@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 15, 2002  5:56:44 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 15 Jul 2002 at 20:50, Karen Kay wrote:
> > I was concerned that she COULD reinstall the operating system without
> > being able to uninstall the previous version. I've never tried this.
>
> It can be done. I did it within the last two weeks.

Thanks--that's good to know. I will tell her. I love you, man.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 17:59:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22091
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 17:59:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBDB9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 0:03:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13226931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 00:08:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G47TN04685 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:07:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A5E137F66; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:07:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716040728.A5E137F66@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:07:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Turns out she has no password; that was the one thing she didn't try.
Her son discovered it. I worry sometimes that I have no children.

And no brain.

And a broken boat.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 18:09:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22105
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 18:09:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBDCC4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 0:13:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13227685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 00:19:07 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6G4J7N05700 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          00:19:07 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KAD00046; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:19:05 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KKD00213; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:19:05 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D3311C3.9303.92F657@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:17:39 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716040728.A5E137F66@yellow.rahul.net>

On 15 Jul 2002 at 21:07, Karen Kay wrote:

> Turns out she has no password; that was the one thing she didn't try. Her
> son discovered it. I worry sometimes that I have no children.

Beautiful.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 18:10:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22116
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 18:10:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBDCCE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 0:14:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13227722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 00:19:55 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G4JtN05761 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:19:55 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 51E337EF8; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:19:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716041954.51E337EF8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:19:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3311C3.9303.92F657@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 15, 2002  6:17:39 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 15 Jul 2002 at 21:07, Karen Kay wrote:
> > Turns out she has no password; that was the one thing she didn't try. Her
> > son discovered it. I worry sometimes that I have no children.
>
> Beautiful.

For her, yeah. My situation is rather bleak.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 18:14:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22138
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 18:14:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBDCE9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 0:18:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13227793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 00:23:55 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G4NtN05979 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:23:55 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 49A687F47; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:23:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716042354.49A687F47@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:23:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Finding a painting...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I want to find Dora Carrington's portrait of Jane Strachey. Where can
I find it on the web?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 18:15:57 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22150
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 18:15:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012ACAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 0:25:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13227817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 00:25:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G4PdN06062 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:25:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E430D7F55; Mon, 15
          Jul 2002 21:25:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716042538.E430D7F55@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:25:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Strachey and biography
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I haven't gotten this far in my book, but here's what
http://www.sbu.ac.uk/stafflag/lyttonstrachey.html says: "He achieved
fame with his collection of biographies in Eminent Victorians, (1918),
in which he examined the careers of Florence Nightingale, Cardinal
Manning, Dr Thomas Arnold, and General Gordon, and caused a literary
stir with its witty and ironic treatment of the foibles of well-known
figures. It transformed the biography genre."

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 19:03:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA22339
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 19:03:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBDEC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 1:08:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13229364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 01:13:35 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G5DZN09292 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 01:13:35 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust25.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.27]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003956279@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 01:13:33 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716025300.28A2E7ED2@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D33ABEA.D4E9FA37@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 01:15:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> You don't find it funny?

Not in the least. I am trying to figure out a funny angle, but can't.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 20:50:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA22869
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 20:50:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012B2C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 2:59:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13232380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 02:59:52 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G6xqN17015 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 02:59:52 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6G74pG20880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:04:51
          +0200
References: <20020715213831.8743B7D98@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D33465B.CF59746C@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716090451.A20868@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:04:51 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D33465B.CF59746C@uclink.berkeley.edu>; from
              bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU on Mon, Jul 15,
              2002 at 03:02:03PM -0700

= >
= > I love Ken Miller! He is my most reliable source of new words.
=
= But would you date him?
=
= Betty

Only if he grows back his beard.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 20:51:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA22883
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 20:51:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE200@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 2:55:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13232433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 03:00:48 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G70mN17139 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 03:00:48 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTPFT>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:00:47 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTPFS; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:00:45 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716085825.00bfb080@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:00:39 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Goat's Head Soup
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <0CE68DD9.70E53886.0099AB05@netscape.net>

10:53 15.07.2002 -0400 skrev jbh:
>In Greece, once, my then-wife and I were passing by a restaurant in Athens
>where everyone was eating some delicious-looking soup called (Rita?)
>patsis, (or something) turned out to be tripe.  I didn't mind, but my
>pseudo macro-biotic jewish ex did.

I once arrived in Pireus at around 5AM and went into a breakfast restaurant
were the workers in the restaurant had there breakfast. I just pointed to
whatever the others wehere having and yes, it was tripe soup. The only
problem for me was that there wasn't much taste (there isn't really in
tripe). This spring I had Florentine trippa in Florence and that was delicious.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 20:54:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA22902
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 20:54:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE21F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 2:58:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13232583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 03:04:13 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G74CN17465 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 03:04:13 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTPFW>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:04:12 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTPFV; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:04:07 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020715145627.031e2738@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716090218.03307c98@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:04:01 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715145851.3BAB17F3A@yellow.rahul.net>

07:58 15.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>Espen Ore said:
> > But isn't it pidgin?
>
>I don't think so.

Does anyone (mem/Karen or others) know any cognates in other Polynesian
languages? My <local> expert who admittedly hasn't studied much Hawaiian
couldn't think of ant related word in e.g. Samoan.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 21:02:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22950
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 21:02:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE256@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 3:06:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13232783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 03:12:08 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G7C7N18049 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 03:12:07 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6G7H7u20905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:17:07
          +0200
References: <F2414SnW5UZIYxCgriH0001228e@hotmail.com>
            <3D337F64.DB5D95EB@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716091707.B20868@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:17:07 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D337F64.DB5D95EB@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Mon,
              Jul 15, 2002 at 09:05:24PM -0500

= >
= > I'm not even touching this.
=
= ??  The point of my posting was simply to say that I now just swim for
= lengths of time, not counting anything, just looking at the clocks on
= the wall.  Not that I think you particularly <need> to touch the
= subject, but I don't really understand why you responded.
= --
=  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Well, duh, this is words-l?  Why did you respond?

Why isn't there an emoticon or a well recognized abbreviation
for head-shaking?

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 21:04:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22959
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 21:04:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE25B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 3:08:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13232805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 03:13:47 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G7DUN18141 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 03:13:30 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6G7IUp20914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:18:30
          +0200
References: <20020716000256.2D0037F28@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D337FB4.9776F92E@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716091830.C20868@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:18:30 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D337FB4.9776F92E@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Mon,
              Jul 15, 2002 at 09:06:44PM -0500

= > > I'm not even touching this.
= >
= > Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
=
= I don't get this at all.  Why do y'all care whether I watch the clock or
= count lengths or count laps when swimming???
=
= --
=  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

We don't!  We just don't want to fill the list with an endless
discussion of it!  Are you being funny Natalie?

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 21:11:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22980
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 21:11:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE280@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 3:15:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13232896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 03:21:26 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G7LPN18648 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 03:21:25 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6G7QPd20932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:26:25
          +0200
References: <20020716040728.A5E137F66@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716092625.D20868@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:26:25 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716040728.A5E137F66@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 09:07:28PM -0700

On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 09:07:28PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
= Turns out she has no password; that was the one thing she didn't try.
= Her son discovered it. I worry sometimes that I have no children.
=
= And no brain.
=
= And a broken boat.
=
= Karen

Get over it.  Take it easy.  The brain might get better, you can
still think like a child, just not as fast, and the boat thing is
not permanent.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 21:29:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23104
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 21:28:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE2D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 3:33:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13233183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 03:38:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G7ccN19816 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 03:38:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 478977FEB; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 00:38:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716073837.478977FEB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:38:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716091830.C20868@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              16, 2002  9:18:30 am"

steph said:
> = > > I'm not even touching this.
> = >
> = > Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
> =
> = I don't get this at all.  Why do y'all care whether I watch the clock or
> = count lengths or count laps when swimming???
> =
> = --
> =  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
> We don't!  We just don't want to fill the list with an endless
> discussion of it!  Are you being funny Natalie?

Yes, but not intentionally.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 21:43:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23178
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 21:43:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012B453@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 3:52:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13233301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 03:52:45 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G7qjN20503 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 03:52:45 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTPLF>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:52:44 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTPL1; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:52:39 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <20020714203846.10A1E8574@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020714223003.A16784@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020714203846.10A1E8574@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716095114.00baa860@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:52:34 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715214601.A19574@yoccoz.multinix.com>

21:46 15.07.2002 +0200 skrev steph:
>=
>=
>= > You can also poke your nose into the linuxchix mailing list.  I
>= > haven't been following the tech lists for ages now, but this is
>= > just the kind of question for there.
>=
>= Ooh, ooh!!! Thanks SOOOOO much! I didn't know there was such a thing!
>=
>= I love you, man!
>=
>= Karen
>
>:-)
>
>Now that we've sorted out that your motivation to do it is more
>or less just to play with it, I would think it matters not one
>whit which distro you choose.  I would look now for which one you
>think is going to cause the least amount of pain to get your
>hands on.  Or the one you think you can set up with the least
>amount of disk space, as that's at a premium.
>
>The laptop I'm on now has a 2G disk, and it's got a barebones Red
>Hat install that takes up 1G.  And we still never use it because
>Pat can't get the *&%&^* 3com wireless pcmcia card to work under
>RH.

Red Hat 7.2 autinstalled a driver for my *&%& etc. 3com card. (and it also
recognised my external screen resolution - I have had problems with that
before on Latitudes)

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 21:48:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23194
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 21:48:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012B476@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 3:57:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13233316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 03:57:41 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G7veN20693 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 03:57:41 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTPLS>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:57:40 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTPLR; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:57:38 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOENFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <3D3346F5.E3B32CB1@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716095722.03366350@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:57:33 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      HB Brad!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D334814.9EC07D2@uclink.berkeley.edu>

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 21:51:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23202
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 21:51:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012B48C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 4:00:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13233356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 04:00:47 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G80kN20851 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 04:00:47 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTPLY>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:00:46 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTPLX; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:00:39 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020715145423.00bc8b08@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716100016.00bf3b80@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:00:34 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEDCGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

19:36 15.07.2002 -0400 skrev Adam Hartfield:
> > I love anchoivies - both the Mediterranean and the Scandinavian kind. The
> > Scandinavian is best with hard boiled eggs.
> >
> > Espen
>
>It's probably already been asked, but what's the difference in anchovy
>types?

Different kind of fish, different saltiness.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 22:13:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23350
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 22:13:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE354@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 4:17:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13233534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 04:23:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G8NON22156 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 04:23:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2B6227DB4; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 01:23:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716082324.2B6227DB4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 01:23:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716090218.03307c98@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 16, 2002  9: 4: 1 am"

Espen Ore said:
> 07:58 15.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> >Espen Ore said:
> > > But isn't it pidgin?
> >
> >I don't think so.
>
> Does anyone (mem/Karen or others) know any cognates in other Polynesian
> languages? My <local> expert who admittedly hasn't studied much Hawaiian
> couldn't think of ant related word in e.g. Samoan.

Well, I looked up 'quick' in the Coconut Boyz Hawaiian-English
dictionary on the web, and the first gloss provided was
'awiwi--wikiwiki was second.

Hm. http://www.samoalive.com/NFL/V.htm lists 'vave' as a gloss for
'quick'. That's not too far off the mark. Here's the whole definition:
"VAVE, adv. quickly. see FAAVAVE; LISE;

TAALISE; TOPE; FAANATINATI."

>From wikiwiki to faanatinati?

Oooh! Here's an even better one. There's a Rotuman-English dictionary
at http://128.171.9.94/rotumanenglish/FMPro that lists a'mijimiji for
"act, to act as if (quick, smart, prompt)".

Non sequitur:
Mem, this is weird. I didn't realize Maori and Hawaiian were so close.
The Maori dictionary I looked at lists 'atamai' for what would be
'akamai' in Hawaiian (quick mind).

Back to the topic:
For 'quickly' (the adverb, which I think fits wikiwiki), they list
'wawe', which is an echo of the Samoan.

I do think there's something twisty in the etymology of this word,
Espen, but I don't know what it is or when it happened. I would like
to know the difference between 'awiwi and wikiwiki, too.

Karen

P.S. The Maori word for 'quicksand' is 'oi'. That would certainly be
my reaction.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 22:14:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23354
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 22:14:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE355@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 4:18:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13233538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 04:24:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G8O2N22180 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 04:24:03 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 386187F6B; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 01:24:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716082402.386187F6B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 01:24:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D33ABEA.D4E9FA37@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 16,
              2002  1:15:22 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > You don't find it funny?
>
> Not in the least. I am trying to figure out a funny angle, but can't.

It doesn't remind you of a French farce?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 22:18:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23376
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 22:18:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012B566@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 4:27:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13233566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 04:27:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G8RxN22347 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 04:27:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BA6037F57; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 01:27:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716082758.BA6037F57@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 01:27:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716092625.D20868@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              16, 2002  9:26:25 am"

steph said:
> Get over it.  Take it easy.  The brain might get better, you can
> still think like a child, just not as fast, and the boat thing is
> not permanent.

How do you know the boat thing is not permanent? I don't know that. I
spoke with My New Friend tonight and he blames me for everything that
has gone wrong and wants nothing to do with the boat. Neither of us
can afford to buy each other out. I am not happy.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 22:19:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23390
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 22:19:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE36E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 4:23:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13233594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 04:29:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G8SqN22414 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 04:28:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4896A7FE8; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 01:28:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716082852.4896A7FE8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 01:28:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: HB Brad!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716095722.03366350@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 16, 2002  9:57:33 am"

Oh! Yes, HB, B. & MM.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 22:21:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23396
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 22:21:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE379@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 4:26:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13233629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 04:31:36 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G8VaN22565 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 04:31:36 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTPRP>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:31:35 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTPR3; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:31:31 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020716090218.03307c98@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716102920.00b77c68@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:31:24 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716082324.2B6227DB4@yellow.rahul.net>

01:23 16.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>Espen Ore said:
> > 07:58 15.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> > >Espen Ore said:
> > > > But isn't it pidgin?
> > >
> > >I don't think so.
> >
> > Does anyone (mem/Karen or others) know any cognates in other Polynesian
> > languages? My <local> expert who admittedly hasn't studied much Hawaiian
> > couldn't think of ant related word in e.g. Samoan.
>
>Well, I looked up 'quick' in the Coconut Boyz Hawaiian-English
>dictionary on the web, and the first gloss provided was
>'awiwi--wikiwiki was second.
>
>Hm. http://www.samoalive.com/NFL/V.htm lists 'vave' as a gloss for
>'quick'. That's not too far off the mark. Here's the whole definition:
>"VAVE, adv. quickly. see FAAVAVE; LISE;

Ingjerd also suggested VAVE when I asked her yesterday, and she could not
see any link between that and a Hawaiian WIKIWIKI.


>TAALISE; TOPE; FAANATINATI."
>
> From wikiwiki to faanatinati?
>
>Oooh! Here's an even better one. There's a Rotuman-English dictionary
>at http://128.171.9.94/rotumanenglish/FMPro that lists a'mijimiji for
>"act, to act as if (quick, smart, prompt)".
>
>Non sequitur:
>Mem, this is weird. I didn't realize Maori and Hawaiian were so close.
>The Maori dictionary I looked at lists 'atamai' for what would be
>'akamai' in Hawaiian (quick mind).
>
>Back to the topic:
>For 'quickly' (the adverb, which I think fits wikiwiki), they list
>'wawe', which is an echo of the Samoan.
>
>I do think there's something twisty in the etymology of this word,
>Espen, but I don't know what it is or when it happened. I would like
>to know the difference between 'awiwi and wikiwiki, too.

I am still tempted to see a pidgin from quick quick ...

>P.S. The Maori word for 'quicksand' is 'oi'. That would certainly be
>my reaction.

or oi i i i  i    i ...

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 22:24:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23405
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 22:24:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012B58B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 4:33:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13233661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 04:33:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G8XxN22686 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 04:33:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 82D597EF8; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 01:33:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716083358.82D597EF8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 01:33:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716102920.00b77c68@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 16, 2002 10:31:24 am"

Espen Ore said:
> 01:23 16.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> >Espen Ore said:
> > > 07:58 15.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> > > >Espen Ore said:
> > > > > But isn't it pidgin?
> > > >
> > > >I don't think so.
> > >
> > > Does anyone (mem/Karen or others) know any cognates in other Polynesian
> > > languages? My <local> expert who admittedly hasn't studied much Hawaiian
> > > couldn't think of ant related word in e.g. Samoan.
> >
> >Well, I looked up 'quick' in the Coconut Boyz Hawaiian-English
> >dictionary on the web, and the first gloss provided was
> >'awiwi--wikiwiki was second.
> >
> >Hm. http://www.samoalive.com/NFL/V.htm lists 'vave' as a gloss for
> >'quick'. That's not too far off the mark. Here's the whole definition:
> >"VAVE, adv. quickly. see FAAVAVE; LISE;
>
> Ingjerd also suggested VAVE when I asked her yesterday, and she could not
> see any link between that and a Hawaiian WIKIWIKI.

I was thinking 'awiwi and vave.

> >I do think there's something twisty in the etymology of this word,
> >Espen, but I don't know what it is or when it happened. I would like
> >to know the difference between 'awiwi and wikiwiki, too.
>
> I am still tempted to see a pidgin from quick quick ...

And I still think you're nuts.:)

> >P.S. The Maori word for 'quicksand' is 'oi'. That would certainly be
> >my reaction.
>
> or oi i i i  i    i ...

Yes.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 22:28:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23435
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 22:28:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE391@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 4:32:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13233705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 04:37:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G8biN22878 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 04:37:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2AA3D7DC9; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 01:37:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716083744.2AA3D7DC9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 01:37:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716095114.00baa860@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 16, 2002  9:52:34 am"

Espen Ore said:
> Red Hat 7.2 autinstalled a driver for my *&%& etc. 3com card. (and it also
> recognised my external screen resolution - I have had problems with that
> before on Latitudes)

Noted.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 22:47:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23576
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 22:47:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE3E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 4:51:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13233954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 04:57:32 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G8vWN23942 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 04:57:32 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTPTY>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:57:31 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTPTW; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:57:27 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020716102920.00b77c68@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716105302.00be18c8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:57:20 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716083358.82D597EF8@yellow.rahul.net>

01:33 16.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:

> > >I do think there's something twisty in the etymology of this word,
> > >Espen, but I don't know what it is or when it happened. I would like
> > >to know the difference between 'awiwi and wikiwiki, too.
> >
> > I am still tempted to see a pidgin from quick quick ...
>
>And I still think you're nuts.:)

That's fine, but so far it seems to be a word unique to Hawaiian - awiwi =
wikiwiki seems strange to me. But I don't know anything about Polynesian
languages so I am just following up on a proud family tradition: my
grandfather wrote against Heyerdahls theories back around 1949 (just after
the Kon Tiki expidition) and dared go into a discussion of some of the
etymologies T.H. used. My grandfather's background was in Classics,
something T.H. did not forget to mention in his replies. (This went on in a
Norwegian newspaper)

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 22:52:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23596
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 22:52:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE3F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 4:56:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13233997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 05:01:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G91nN24167 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 05:01:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0D4557EDC; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 02:01:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716090147.0D4557EDC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 02:01:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716105302.00be18c8@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 16, 2002 10:57:20 am"

Espen Ore said:
> 01:33 16.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> That's fine, but so far it seems to be a word unique to Hawaiian - awiwi =
> wikiwiki seems strange to me.

Samoan and at least one of the other languages has a similar postfix.
I think it has something to do with how the word is used in the
sentence, but I don't know Hawaiian grammar at all.

'awiwi to wikiwiki doesn't seem particularly strange to me, but I
can't think of any similar examples. Anyway, it's 4AM and I need to go
to back to sleep.

> But I don't know anything about Polynesian
> languages so I am just following up on a proud family tradition: my
> grandfather wrote against Heyerdahls theories back around 1949 (just after
> the Kon Tiki expidition) and dared go into a discussion of some of the
> etymologies T.H. used. My grandfather's background was in Classics,
> something T.H. did not forget to mention in his replies. (This went on in a
> Norwegian newspaper)

:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 23:06:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA23670
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 23:06:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012B70F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 5:16:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13234124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 05:16:27 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G9GRN24917 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 05:16:27 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6G9LRf21156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:21:27
          +0200
References: <20020714203846.10A1E8574@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020714223003.A16784@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020714203846.10A1E8574@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020715214601.A19574@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020716095114.00baa860@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716112127.A21131@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:21:27 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716095114.00baa860@victoria.nb.no>; from
              Espen.Ore@NB.NO on Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 09:52:34AM +0200

=
= Red Hat 7.2 autinstalled a driver for my *&%& etc. 3com card. (and it also
= recognised my external screen resolution - I have had problems with that
= before on Latitudes)
=
= Espen

Yeah, my personal experience of watching Pat suffer with getting
stuff up and running, and then discovering things like now, no
matter what I do my mail is in color because all my mutt defaults
have changed, and other settings being changed to /bin/emacs when
they were /bin/vi and not functioning at all, because of course
who would install a system without emacs, etc., leads me to
believe that RH is beginning to understand why M$ is the way it
is.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 23:16:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA23720
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 23:16:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE42D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 5:20:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13234216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 05:26:30 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G9QTN25449 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 05:26:30 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6G9VUk21173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:31:30
          +0200
References: <20020716092625.D20868@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020716082758.BA6037F57@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716113130.B21131@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:31:30 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716082758.BA6037F57@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 01:27:58AM -0700

=
= How do you know the boat thing is not permanent? I don't know that. I
= spoke with My New Friend tonight and he blames me for everything that
= has gone wrong and wants nothing to do with the boat. Neither of us
= can afford to buy each other out. I am not happy.
=
= Karen

Well, in the worst case, the thing will eventually rot (this is a
joke K@R3N, please smile).  Either I missed it, or you haven't
let us in on the gorey details of what went wrong, but, things
can be arranged.  I hope I'm not shoving your nose in it, but
what does the contract have to say about you making improvements
and paying for them?  What happens when the amount of money you
put in to the boat is equal to the amount that he originally
spent on it?

What about selling the damn thing?

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 23:37:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA23873
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 23:37:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE464@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 5:41:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13234361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 05:46:38 -0400
Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G9kbN26719 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 05:46:38 -0400
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com
          (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g6G9kV798158 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:46:31 -1000 (HST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <20020716083358.82D597EF8@yellow.rahul.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D335F05.22366.349075@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:47:17 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@FLEX.COM>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716105302.00be18c8@victoria.nb.no>

On 16 Jul 2002 at 10:57, Espen Ore wrote:

> That's fine, but so far it seems to be a word unique to Hawaiian -
> awiwi = wikiwiki seems strange to me.

I'm well out of my depth trying to talk about this sort of thing, but what the hell, this is Words-
L. The 1986 edition of the Pukui and Elbert dictionary identifies wiki as probably from "Proto
East Polynesian" witi. It also mentions an Easter Island viti, that may be a Tahitian loan.

According to Henry Judd, Hawaiian vocabulary is closer to Maori, Tahitian, and Tuamotuan
than to Samoan, although there are many words that are the same in Hawaiian and Samoan.

I don't see anything in Pukui and Elbert to indicate a connection between 'awiwi and wiki (or
wikiwiki, a reduplication), other than their common meaning.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun  9 23:44:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA23915
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 9 Jun 1960 23:44:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012B842@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 5:54:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13234428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 05:54:11 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6G9sBN27100 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 05:54:11 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTPZL>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:54:10 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTPZK; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:54:08 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020716105302.00be18c8@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020716083358.82D597EF8@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716115315.03176bb0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:54:00 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D335F05.22366.349075@localhost>

23:47 15.07.2002 -1000 skrev Michael E. Macmillan:
>On 16 Jul 2002 at 10:57, Espen Ore wrote:
>
> > That's fine, but so far it seems to be a word unique to Hawaiian -
> > awiwi = wikiwiki seems strange to me.
>
>I'm well out of my depth trying to talk about this sort of thing, but what
>the hell, this is Words-
>L. The 1986 edition of the Pukui and Elbert dictionary identifies wiki as
>probably from "Proto
>East Polynesian" witi. It also mentions an Easter Island viti, that may be
>a Tahitian loan.

I am even more out of my depth, thank you very much!

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 00:38:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA24223
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 00:38:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE613@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 6:42:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13235309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 06:47:48 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GAlmN30398 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 06:47:48 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws87-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.87]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6GAlkq29580
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 05:47:46 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716032744.F11F37FE0@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D33F9A0.48D95434@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 05:46:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Ann Borkin said:
> > Now I'm wondering, what's so fucking funny, K****?  That an 80 year old
> > had sex?  Had a live-in girlfriend?
> >
> > Huh?  Huh?
>
> I find it sweet and surprising that 45 years later he rediscovered
> this woman he was married to before. I think it's sweet that it was so
> good that this woman came for 3 days and stayed for 18. It's not
> funny, but it made me laugh because it's all so unexpected.

It's not the first time people have gotten married again to each other
after many years and spouses.  Off the top of my head I can think of a
similar case -- somebody I knew in Columbus who got a divorce from wife
#3 to marry wife #2 after not having been around wife #2 in over 30
years at least.  I'm not sure that it was as long as 45 years.  (I heard
that it wasn't exactly for <sweet> motives, though -- that he did it
because he was very mad at wife #3 and wanted to make sure she wouldn't
have any rights to inherit anything when he died.  I don't know whether
that rumor was true.  I do know that he rediscovered and married wife #2
in his old age.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 00:46:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA24252
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 00:46:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE635@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 6:50:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13235417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 06:56:06 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GAu6N30881 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 06:56:06 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws87-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.87]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6GAu3q00987
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 05:56:04 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716000256.2D0037F28@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D337FB4.9776F92E@maynor.net>
            <20020716091830.C20868@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D33FBC1.1B2915D@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 05:56:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> = I don't get this at all.  Why do y'all care whether I watch the clock or
> = count lengths or count laps when swimming???

> We don't!  We just don't want to fill the list with an endless
> discussion of it!  Are you being funny Natalie?

Why funny?  I simply feel insulted and -- what? -- I can't think of
exactly the right word -- sort of shoved out -- like it's fine for other
people to talk about changes or whatever in their exercise routines, but
not me.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 00:48:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA24268
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 00:48:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE63E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 6:52:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13235441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 06:57:47 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GAvlN30980 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 06:57:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws87-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.87]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6GAviq01313
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 05:57:45 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716073837.478977FEB@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D33FC26.281C763D@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 05:57:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > We don't!  We just don't want to fill the list with an endless
> > discussion of it!  Are you being funny Natalie?
>
> Yes, but not intentionally.

??  I see nothing at all funny in it.  In any case, I do apologize for
having interrupted the scintillating list discussions of every ripple in
your life.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 00:48:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA24272
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 00:48:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBE641@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 6:52:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13235448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 06:58:14 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GAwEN31017 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 06:58:14 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTP8M>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:58:13 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTP8L; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:58:08 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <20020716032744.F11F37FE0@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716125716.031528b8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:58:01 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D33F9A0.48D95434@maynor.net>

05:46 16.07.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor:
>Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > Ann Borkin said:
> > > Now I'm wondering, what's so fucking funny, K****?  That an 80 year old
> > > had sex?  Had a live-in girlfriend?
> > >
> > > Huh?  Huh?
> >
> > I find it sweet and surprising that 45 years later he rediscovered
> > this woman he was married to before. I think it's sweet that it was so
> > good that this woman came for 3 days and stayed for 18. It's not
> > funny, but it made me laugh because it's all so unexpected.
>
>It's not the first time people have gotten married again to each other
>after many years and spouses.  Off the top of my head I can think of a
>similar case -- somebody I knew in Columbus who got a divorce from wife
>#3 to marry wife #2 after not having been around wife #2 in over 30
>years at least.  I'm not sure that it was as long as 45 years.  (I heard
>that it wasn't exactly for <sweet> motives, though -- that he did it
>because he was very mad at wife #3 and wanted to make sure she wouldn't
>have any rights to inherit anything when he died.  I don't know whether
>that rumor was true.  I do know that he rediscovered and married wife #2
>in his old age.)

Nothing comparable but Ingjerd and I were pretty close 22 years ago.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 01:53:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA24607
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 01:53:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012BCD7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 8:02:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13236931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 08:02:39 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GC2dN17618 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:02:39 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23357 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:02:38 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 16 Jul 02
          08:02:39 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 16 Jul 02 08:02:31 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D32EE68.3483.1BA7E91@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul   
            15, 2002  3:46:49 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D33D312.18159.BE374@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:02:26 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715234448.C7BC57DF7@yellow.rahul.net>

My housemate Vladimir, perhaps out of inexperience with the world
of consumerism (he is from Siberia), has signed up for various
<offers>.  He has had his own phone for a year now, but the calls
keep pouring in to my number.  Whenever my phone rings and the
caller asks for Vladimir, I know it's a telemarketer.
Incidentally, I got three more calls last night.  On the third one, I
said "This is the third call I've gotten in the last two hours.  Leave
me alone."  To which the caller replied "You're fucking kidding."  I
think the next time I get one, I'll tell them that Vladimir has a new
number and is anxious to hear from them and give them the
number for the state Attorney General's office or the police or
something.

BrP




> > I never did find out what he was offering.
> > :-)
>
> How did you know it was a telemarketer?
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 02:22:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA24801
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 02:22:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBEB18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 8:26:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13237500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 08:31:53 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GCLrN19201 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:21:53 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6GCLqUh018429 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:21:53 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207160821370.10394-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:21:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716040728.A5E137F66@yellow.rahul.net>

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>Turns out she has no password; that was the one thing she didn't try.
>Her son discovered it. I worry sometimes that I have no children.

LOL!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 02:27:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA24831
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 02:27:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBEB74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 8:31:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13237797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 08:37:10 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GCRAN19955 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:27:10 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6GCRAUh019838 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:27:10 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207160826520.10394-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:27:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: HB Brad!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716095722.03366350@victoria.nb.no>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Espen Ore wrote:

>Espen

HB, Brad!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 02:28:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA24835
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 02:28:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012BF79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 8:38:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13238723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 08:38:08 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GCc7N21459 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:38:08 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6GCh9L21512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:43:09
          +0200
References: <20020716000256.2D0037F28@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D337FB4.9776F92E@maynor.net>
            <20020716091830.C20868@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D33FBC1.1B2915D@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716144309.A21446@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:43:09 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D33FBC1.1B2915D@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Tue,
              Jul 16, 2002 at 05:56:01AM -0500

On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 05:56:01AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote:
= steph wrote:
=
= > = I don't get this at all.  Why do y'all care whether I watch the clock or
= > = count lengths or count laps when swimming???
=
= > We don't!  We just don't want to fill the list with an endless
= > discussion of it!  Are you being funny Natalie?
=
= Why funny?  I simply feel insulted and -- what? -- I can't think of
= exactly the right word -- sort of shoved out -- like it's fine for other
= people to talk about changes or whatever in their exercise routines, but
= not me.

Once upon a time the list had a rather lengthy discussion as to what a
lap was.  You took the contrary view at that time of the
definition.  Strangely enough the above quote from you seems to
mean you've switched what you define as a lap anymore.

It's quite all right that you swim for a length of time.  That's
what I do.

I thought you might be being funny or disingenuous in seemingly
having forgotten that discussion.

Sorry you feel insulted, that certainly wasn't my intention.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 02:32:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA24863
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 02:32:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBEBD1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 8:35:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13238470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 08:41:35 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GCVZN20687 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:31:35 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6GCVYUh021053 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:31:34 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207160829510.10394-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:31:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D33FBC1.1B2915D@maynor.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>Why funny?  I simply feel insulted and -- what? -- I can't think of
>exactly the right word -- sort of shoved out -- like it's fine for other
>people to talk about changes or whatever in their exercise routines, but
>not me.

Well, I am interested in your exercise routine, Natalie. But you did not
give us the most important information - approximately how many lengths,
laps, miles, etc. do you usually swim? Even if you no longer count, you
must know approximately how many you swim onb average.

Do you stretch before or after or during?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 02:33:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA24867
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 02:33:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBEBDF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 8:37:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13238956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 08:42:43 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GCggN22047 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:42:42 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-56.panax.com
          [65.114.190.56]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6GCgfj00708 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          08:42:41 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020716082758.BA6037F57@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020716092625.D20868@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020716082758.BA6037F57@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716084116.00b32d70@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:42:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716113130.B21131@yoccoz.multinix.com>

At 11:31 AM 7/16/2002 +0200, steph wrote:

>Well, in the worst case, the thing will eventually rot (this is a
>joke K@R3N, please smile).  Either I missed it, or you haven't
>let us in on the  [[[[ gorey ]]]]  details of what went wrong...

Given Karen's situation, this seems a very apt typo.

cwv

>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 02:41:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA24908
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 02:41:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012C08F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 8:51:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13239293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 08:51:16 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GCpGN22852 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:51:16 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc70 ([204.127.198.53]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020716125111.YPNM6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:51:11 +0000
Received: from [63.110.228.250] by rwcrwbc70; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:51:10 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020716125111.YPNM6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:51:10 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Are you a vegetarian or was it just something new and different to try?
>
> Sandra

It was something new and different to try. I couldn't bear
the thought of having more pizza, even though FRFF's pizza vendor
makes great pizza.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 02:58:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA24984
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 02:58:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012C2A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 9:07:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13242082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 09:07:45 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GD7jN28719 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:07:45 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws147-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.147]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6GD6Pq29638
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:06:25 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716000256.2D0037F28@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D337FB4.9776F92E@maynor.net>
            <20020716091830.C20868@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D33FBC1.1B2915D@maynor.net>
            <20020716144309.A21446@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D341A4E.D47304A8@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:06:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> Once upon a time the list had a rather lengthy discussion as to what a
> lap was.  You took the contrary view at that time of the
> definition.  Strangely enough the above quote from you seems to
> mean you've switched what you define as a lap anymore.

I've never had a <definition> of a lap.  I've never swum professionally
or competitively or any other such way that might involve needing to
know such things.  I do remember that Marie once a long time ago gave us
the definitions of laps/lengths and that I said I count each length
since I find it much easier to change numbers every time I turn than
changing numbers once every two turns.  I think I said that I think of
that as counting laps.  I can't imagine why it would matter what I think
of it as.  For one thing, if your point is to convert it into miles, you
have to know how long a pool is -- one pool's "lap" would be another
pool's "length."  For another, it for some reason you need to know the
number of laps, it's not exactly rocket science to figure out how to
divide by 2.

> It's quite all right that you swim for a length of time.  That's
> what I do.

Thank you.  Now we shant bore the list with these details anymore.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 03:07:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA25053
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 03:07:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBF01F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 9:11:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13242671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 09:16:45 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GDGiN30288 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:16:44 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id QAA22331 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:16:43
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA22248 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 16:16:41 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716082852.4896A7FE8@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D341C82.F25E7E51@akad.ee>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:15:46 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: HB Brad!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Oh, yes, it is the 16th! Happy Birthday!

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 03:16:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26144
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 03:16:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012C438@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 9:25:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13243117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 09:25:32 -0400
Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.243]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6GDPWN31532 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          09:25:32 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0325.dialsprint.net ([63.190.1.71]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17USKZ-000738-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 09:25:31 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716000256.2D0037F28@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D337FB4.9776F92E@maynor.net>
            <20020716091830.C20868@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D33FBC1.1B2915D@maynor.net>
            <20020716144309.A21446@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D341A4E.D47304A8@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D341EC9.E662C0C1@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:25:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> steph wrote:
>
> > Once upon a time the list had a rather lengthy discussion as to what a
> > lap was.
> > It's quite all right that you swim for a length of time.  That's
> > what I do.
>
> Thank you.  Now we shant bore the list with these details anymore.

When I read Marie's comment, I assumed she meant Marie was not going to
discuss laps again.. she was going to spare us a repeat of an older
discussion.  I didn't read her comment as a commentary on Natalie's new
swimming style.  Natalie's unhappiness about Marie's comment surprised
me.  I had hoped she'd be in a better mood this morning.

When I'm in the water, I'm a clock watcher too.  How long are your
swimming sessions Natalie? Do you swim the whole time with the same stroke?

--
Sylvia Edwards
Litopia    http://www.edwardsly.com
Sylvie's Place    http://www.geocities.com/s.words/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 03:16:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26149
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 03:16:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBF0FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 9:20:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13243174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 09:26:03 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GDQ3N31653 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:26:03 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-32.panax.com [63.163.41.32])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GDQ2j09095 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:26:02 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020716092625.D20868@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716091901.009fddd0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:19:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716082758.BA6037F57@yellow.rahul.net>

>How do you know the boat thing is not permanent? I don't know that. I
>spoke with My New Friend tonight and he blames me for everything that
>has gone wrong and wants nothing to do with the boat. Neither of us
>can afford to buy each other out. I am not happy.      --Karen

Sell it as is.  Some sucker will buy it.  You did.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 03:42:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26747
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 03:42:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012C6D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 9:52:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13245336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 09:52:11 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GDqAN04175 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:52:10 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc69 ([204.127.198.52]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020716135205.OZPD8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:52:05 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc69; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:52:04 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020716135205.OZPD8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:52:04 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Speaking of shopping...

Adam have you bought your suit for that black tie
optional wedding you're going to?

lisa
> > Adam???? Adam doesn't know where to shop for women's clothes. (But
> > yes, I thought this was very sweet, that Alec knew.
> >
> > Karen
>
> Excuse me? Hello, 3 sisters, mother, aunt, and 7 female cousins! I've been
> dragged into just about every women's clothing store that exists around
> here.
>
> MY answer to your question, had I read it in a timely fashion, would have
> been to see what Coldwater Creek had to offer. So there.
>
> --Adam
> adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 03:44:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26767
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 03:44:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012C6FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 9:53:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13245483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 09:53:46 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GDrjN04449 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:53:45 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6GDwln22242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:58:47
          +0200
References: <20020716082758.BA6037F57@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020716092625.D20868@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020716082758.BA6037F57@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020716113130.B21131@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020716084116.00b32d70@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716155847.A22228@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:58:47 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716084116.00b32d70@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 08:42:37AM -0400

= >let us in on the  [[[[ gorey ]]]]  details of what went wrong...
=
= Given Karen's situation, this seems a very apt typo.
=
= cwv

What like finely ink illustrated?  Like prone to disaster?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 03:44:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26782
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 03:44:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBF48A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 9:48:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13245500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 09:54:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GDsFN04504 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:54:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 58A508142; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 06:54:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716135414.58A508142@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 06:54:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D33FBC1.1B2915D@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 16,
              2002  5:56: 1 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Why funny?  I simply feel insulted and -- what? -- I can't think of
> exactly the right word -- sort of shoved out -- like it's fine for other
> people to talk about changes or whatever in their exercise routines, but
> not me.

I don't think insulting you or shoving you out were either of them
intended consequences.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 03:55:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26857
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 03:55:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBF5A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 9:59:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13246317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:05:21 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GE5LN06334 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:05:21 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A4C7B7E18; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 07:05:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716140520.A4C7B7E18@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:05:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D335F05.22366.349075@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 15, 2002 11:47:17 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> According to Henry Judd, Hawaiian vocabulary is closer to Maori, Tahitian, and Tuamotuan
> than to Samoan, although there are many words that are the same in Hawaiian and Samoan.
>
> I don't see anything in Pukui and Elbert to indicate a connection between 'awiwi and wiki (or
> wikiwiki, a reduplication), other than their common meaning.

And there's no information about the differences between the two words?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 03:56:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26861
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 03:56:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBF5B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 9:59:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13246351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:05:31 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GE5UN06379 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:05:31 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id RAA06210 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:05:29
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA06127 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 17:05:28 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEOHFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3427F1.F7D0A54E@akad.ee>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:04:33 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:

> Another favorite along these lines is Travels with Charley. I adore that
> one, too.

Now, help me to recall the author, please. I guess I've read the Estonian
version of it. A vague impression of it is there somewhere in my mind, as
well as that I rather enjoyed it, but was perhaps too young to enjoy it
fully.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 03:58:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26927
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 03:58:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBF5F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:02:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13246535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:07:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GE7aN06714 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:07:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C69F67D42; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 07:07:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716140735.C69F67D42@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:07:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716125716.031528b8@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 16, 2002 12:58: 1 pm"

Espen Ore said:
> 05:46 16.07.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor:
> >Karen Kay wrote:
> > >
> > > Ann Borkin said:
> > > > Now I'm wondering, what's so fucking funny, K****?  That an 80 year old
> > > > had sex?  Had a live-in girlfriend?
> > > >
> > > > Huh?  Huh?
> > >
> > > I find it sweet and surprising that 45 years later he rediscovered
> > > this woman he was married to before. I think it's sweet that it was so
> > > good that this woman came for 3 days and stayed for 18. It's not
> > > funny, but it made me laugh because it's all so unexpected.
> >
> >It's not the first time people have gotten married again to each other
> >after many years and spouses.  Off the top of my head I can think of a
> >similar case -- somebody I knew in Columbus who got a divorce from wife
> >#3 to marry wife #2 after not having been around wife #2 in over 30
> >years at least.  I'm not sure that it was as long as 45 years.  (I heard
> >that it wasn't exactly for <sweet> motives, though -- that he did it
> >because he was very mad at wife #3 and wanted to make sure she wouldn't
> >have any rights to inherit anything when he died.  I don't know whether
> >that rumor was true.  I do know that he rediscovered and married wife #2
> >in his old age.)

I never got Natalie's original post for some reason. In any case, I
never claimed this was the first time this has happened.

> Nothing comparable but Ingjerd and I were pretty close 22 years ago.

And that's sweet, too.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 03:58:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26932
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 03:58:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBF60D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:02:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13246622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:08:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GE8QN06916 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:08:26 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3FA827C3A; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 07:08:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716140823.3FA827C3A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:08:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D33D312.18159.BE374@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              16, 2002  8: 2:26 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> My housemate Vladimir, perhaps out of inexperience with the world
> of consumerism (he is from Siberia), has signed up for various
> <offers>.  He has had his own phone for a year now, but the calls
> keep pouring in to my number.  Whenever my phone rings and the
> caller asks for Vladimir, I know it's a telemarketer.
> Incidentally, I got three more calls last night.  On the third one, I
> said "This is the third call I've gotten in the last two hours.  Leave
> me alone."  To which the caller replied "You're fucking kidding."  I
> think the next time I get one, I'll tell them that Vladimir has a new
> number and is anxious to hear from them and give them the
> number for the state Attorney General's office or the police or
> something.

Not the police, they are overloaded to start with. I like the idea of
the AG's office.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:01:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA26957
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:01:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012C8BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:11:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13246820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:11:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GEB3N07350 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:11:03 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 464EB7EF0; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 07:11:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716141102.464EB7EF0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:11:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716091901.009fddd0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 16, 2002  9:19:25 am"

bonniev said:
> >How do you know the boat thing is not permanent? I don't know that. I
> >spoke with My New Friend tonight and he blames me for everything that
> >has gone wrong and wants nothing to do with the boat. Neither of us
> >can afford to buy each other out. I am not happy.      --Karen
>
> Sell it as is.  Some sucker will buy it.  You did.

He convinced me to sell it before Memorial Day, and then did nothing
about it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:02:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA26964
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:02:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBF659@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:06:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13246863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:11:52 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GEBpN07425 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:11:51 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id RAA08548 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:11:50
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA08462 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 17:11:48 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020715004623.42FDF85C3@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34296E.AE3546C8@akad.ee>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:10:54 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I was seeing less and less of My New Friend; *er* has merely taken up
> the slack. Can't I see both of them?

Rita already expressed what she thought of it ;) but as to me, I totally
missed the moment when YNF was changed for YNestF, Sergey Oleander, one
might guess.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:03:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA26972
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:03:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012C8EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:12:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13246932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:12:54 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GECsN07571 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:12:54 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc58 ([204.127.198.47]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020716141248.PTUI8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:12:48 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc58; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:12:48 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020716141248.PTUI8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:12:48 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>And make the switch to Splenda. You won't regret it.

Splenda. hmm... What's the differnce between Splenda and
Equal? Are they both nutrasweet?
lisa
> > I've just been having the creamline yogurt (trader joe's) with some
> > all -fruit spread and equal. I should try the Strauss Family yogurt they
> > sell. It might be even tastier.
> >
> > Sandra
>
> The TJ's is good but SF is better, IMHO.
>
> And make the switch to Splenda. You won't regret it.
>
> --Adam
> adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:06:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA26992
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:06:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBF6D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:10:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13247096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:16:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GEG5N07970 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:16:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B0F797F9D; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 07:16:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716141601.B0F797F9D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:16:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34296E.AE3546C8@akad.ee> from Kristin Sarv at "Jul 16,
              2002  5:10:54 pm"

Kristin Sarv said:
> Rita already expressed what she thought of it ;) but as to me, I totally
> missed the moment when YNF was changed for YNestF, Sergey Oleander, one
> might guess.

I met him when he came to my house for a party 3 weeks ago.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:07:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA26997
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:07:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBF6E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:11:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13247134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:16:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GEGeN08039 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:16:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CD62D7F9D; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 07:16:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716141639.CD62D7F9D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:16:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716141248.PTUI8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58> from Lisa
              Alfieri at "Jul 16, 2002  2:12:48 pm"

Lisa Alfieri said:
> >And make the switch to Splenda. You won't regret it.
>
> Splenda. hmm... What's the differnce between Splenda and
> Equal? Are they both nutrasweet?

No. I forget what Splenda is, but it pretty much tastes like sugar.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:08:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27010
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:08:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012C971@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:17:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13247174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:17:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GEHbN08186 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:17:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2AAE37C3A; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 07:17:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716141737.2AAE37C3A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:17:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D341A4E.D47304A8@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 16,
              2002  8: 6:22 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Thank you.  Now we shant bore the list with these details anymore.

Who said they were bored?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:09:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27022
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:09:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012C98D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:18:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13247246 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:18:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GEIgN08335 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:18:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C8FCF7F6D; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 07:18:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716141841.C8FCF7F6D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:18:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716084116.00b32d70@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 16, 2002  8:42:37 am"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> At 11:31 AM 7/16/2002 +0200, steph wrote:
>
> >Well, in the worst case, the thing will eventually rot (this is a
> >joke K@R3N, please smile).  Either I missed it, or you haven't
> >let us in on the  [[[[ gorey ]]]]  details of what went wrong...
>
> Given Karen's situation, this seems a very apt typo.

Hurt me some more, Clyde...

(But yes, this was funny.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:21:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27071
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:21:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012CADA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:30:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13248232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:30:53 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GEUoN10637 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:30:50 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-56.panax.com
          [65.114.190.56]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6GEUmj21350 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          10:30:48 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEOHFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716102810.00b55aa0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:28:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3427F1.F7D0A54E@akad.ee>

At 05:04 PM 7/16/2002 +0300, kristin wrote:
>S Hess wrote:
>
> > Another favorite along these lines is Travels with Charley. I adore that
> > one, too.
>
>Now, help me to recall the author, please.

Steinbeck, I believe.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:21:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27073
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:21:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012CADB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:30:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13248226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:30:51 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GEUoN10636 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:30:50 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-56.panax.com
          [65.114.190.56]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6GEUkj21344 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          10:30:46 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020716084116.00b32d70@mail.panax.com>
            <20020716082758.BA6037F57@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020716092625.D20868@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020716082758.BA6037F57@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020716113130.B21131@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020716084116.00b32d70@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716102626.00b48d10@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:28:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716155847.A22228@yoccoz.multinix.com>

At 03:58 PM 7/16/2002 +0200, steph wrote:
>= >let us in on the  [[[[ gorey ]]]]  details of what went wrong...
>=
>= Given Karen's situation, this seems a very apt typo.
>=
>= cwv
>
>What like finely ink illustrated?  Like prone to disaster?

I was thinking more along the lines of slightly bizarre, askew, ten degrees
off plumb, etc.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:32:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27134
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:32:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBF9D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:36:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13249265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:42:03 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GEg3N12858 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:42:03 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6GEg27Y223690 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          10:42:02 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000e01c22cd6$f30db320$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:42:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716141639.CD62D7F9D@yellow.rahul.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Karen Kay
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:17 AM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
>
>
> Lisa Alfieri said:
> > >And make the switch to Splenda. You won't regret it.
> >
> > Splenda. hmm... What's the differnce between Splenda and
> > Equal? Are they both nutrasweet?
>
> No. I forget what Splenda is, but it pretty much tastes like sugar.
>
> Karen
>

Check out  http://www.splenda.com/

alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:37:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27152
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:37:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBFA65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:41:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13249741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:46:47 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GEklN13895 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:46:47 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id RAA16487 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:46:46
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA16403 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 17:46:44 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEOHFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020716102810.00b55aa0@mail.panax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34319E.5E5A9DCC@akad.ee>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:45:50 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:

>  Travels with Charley. I adore that
> > > one, too.
> >
> >Now, help me to recall the author, please.
>
> Steinbeck, I believe.

Oh... yes... some associations got mixed in my head. Just, The winter of our
discontent which was my annual reading during Easter for several years seemed/-s
so much different from Travels with Charley that I could not associate these two
any more. And I've never read Grapes of Wrath although it was translated when I
was young -- I guess this differs even more from those two (I'm not eager to
read it, either.)

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:38:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27171
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:38:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBFA85@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:42:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13249842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:48:10 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6GEmAN14187 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          10:48:10 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6GEm94436342 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 10:48:09 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEPNFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:47:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Goat's Head Soup
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716085825.00bfb080@victoria.nb.no>

> 10:53 15.07.2002 -0400 skrev jbh:
> >In Greece, once, my then-wife and I were passing by a restaurant
> in Athens
> >where everyone was eating some delicious-looking soup called (Rita?)
> >patsis, (or something) turned out to be tripe.  I didn't mind, but my
> >pseudo macro-biotic jewish ex did.
>
> I once arrived in Pireus at around 5AM and went into a breakfast
> restaurant
> were the workers in the restaurant had there breakfast. I just pointed to
> whatever the others wehere having and yes, it was tripe soup. The only
> problem for me was that there wasn't much taste (there isn't really in
> tripe). This spring I had Florentine trippa in Florence and that
> was delicious.
>
> Espen

Must be something about tripe in the morning...isn't it also a key
ingredient of menudo? And isn't that a popular meal for a hangover?

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:44:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27189
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:44:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012CD4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:53:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13250371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:53:35 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GErYN15519 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:53:35 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id RAA17195 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:53:33
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA17111 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 17:53:32 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716141601.B0F797F9D@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D343336.7A1F9A70@akad.ee>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:52:38 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I met him when he came to my house for a party 3 weeks ago.

Try as I do, I still miss so much, although I've eagerly concentrated on
meebers' personal matters (my, how it sounds here!) when reading last weeks'
post.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:45:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27200
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:45:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBFB3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:49:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13250484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:55:11 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GEtBN15854 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:55:11 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.10]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZCK1Y02.Q2V for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:53:58 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEPNFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3433B6.58CAC4EF@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:54:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Goat's Head Soup
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:

> Must be something about tripe in the morning...isn't it also a key
> ingredient of menudo? And isn't that a popular meal for a hangover?

    You don't have to be hungover to enjoy menudo.  In fact, its a treat.  In
the GMA restaurants advertise the days they have it on the menu.  (Usually
weekends.  Hmmm...)

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:45:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27204
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:45:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBFB3F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:49:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13250488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:55:13 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GEtCN15866 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:55:12 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust143.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.145]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005272554@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:55:11 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716082402.386187F6B@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D343437.5B1B300@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:56:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> It doesn't remind you of a French farce?

No. French farces generally have dirty old men going after young women.
I know too many older people of both sexes who have romances and indeed
sex in their 70s and 80s to find it amusing. My grandmother, a widow,
had an affair with a widower when both were in their 80s. We thought it
great, but not funny nor farcical.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:52:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27232
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:52:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012CE1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:01:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13251137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:01:32 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GF1VN17244 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:01:31 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust143.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.145]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003966791@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:01:31 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D32EE68.3483.1BA7E91@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
            15, 2002  3:46:49 pm" <3D33D312.18159.BE374@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3435B3.2519993D@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:03:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> My housemate Vladimir, perhaps out of inexperience with the world
> of consumerism (he is from Siberia), has signed up for various
> <offers>.

Do you know that the State of NY has a program that you can sign up for
so that you don't get these calls? Call the Attorney General's office
for the details. I think you can do it on the web, too, but I haven't
googled for it. I signed on about 18 months ago, and get almost no such
calls any more. Exceptions are that charities are still allowed to call,
and companies with whom you have a "relationship," like a credit card
company can call to offer you a special travel plan or something.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:52:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27237
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:52:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBFC25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:56:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13251172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:02:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GF2IN17352 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:02:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6BD6E7FFD; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 08:02:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716150217.6BD6E7FFD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:02:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D343336.7A1F9A70@akad.ee> from Kristin Sarv at "Jul 16,
              2002  5:52:38 pm"

Kristin Sarv said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I met him when he came to my house for a party 3 weeks ago.
>
> Try as I do, I still miss so much, although I've eagerly concentrated on
> meebers' personal matters (my, how it sounds here!) when reading last weeks'
> post.

Oh, Kristin, I don't expect anyone else here to keep the details of my
life straight when I can barely manage.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:55:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27255
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:55:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012CEB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:05:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13251890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:05:15 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f195.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.195]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GF5FN18940 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:05:15 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 08:05:10 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:05:10 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 15:05:10.0292 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[2DD06540:01C22CDA]
Message-ID:  <F195tQoPAzdaQYrVjYK0000caa4@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:05:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Splenda. hmm... What's the differnce between Splenda and
>Equal? Are they both nutrasweet?

Splenda is sucralose; Nutrasweet is aspartame. Sucralose is a sucrose
molecule with a chlorine ion grafted onto the end of the chain. That makes
it impossible for the body to metabolize it and get calories from it, but
the molecular structure is similar enough to sucrose that it still tastes
sweet on the tongue. It doesn't taste precisely like sugar, but it is a
better approximation than Nutrasweet.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:57:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27269
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:57:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012CEDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:07:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13252049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:07:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GF77N19235 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:07:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AF47B7F95; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 08:07:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716150706.AF47B7F95@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:07:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D343437.5B1B300@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 16,
              2002 10:56:55 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > It doesn't remind you of a French farce?
>
> No. French farces generally have dirty old men going after young
> women.

I was more thinking of mistaken identity stuff, people popping up in
strange places.

> I know too many older people of both sexes who have romances and indeed
> sex in their 70s and 80s to find it amusing.

I don't find the romance/sex amusing. I was impressed and surprised by
the suddenness of it, and the sort of swept-away-ness of it all, but
not laughing *at* them. I am 51, and until yesterday, I never thought
about that happening to me 30 years from now.

> My grandmother, a widow, had an affair with a widower when both were
> in their 80s. We thought it great, but not funny nor farcical.

I see that I have failed to communicate my delight in this occurrence.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:58:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27275
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:58:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012CEEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:07:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13252091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:07:48 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GF7mN19319 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:07:48 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc70 ([204.127.198.53]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020716150743.RYLM8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:07:43 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc70; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:07:42 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020716150743.RYLM8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:07:42 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Alec, Adam is right.  You should pay some Coldwater
Creek > bills. Their website is a dog, but the paper
catalog is
> ok.  If the stuff fits, it is much nicer than what Lane
> Bryant, Avenue, etc. have on offer.

I gave up on LB a long time ago. Their quality was
seriously lacking and their sizing was weird. I found the
clothes were either too big or too small. Pants, for
instance, would fit in the waist but were so baggy they
looked ridiculous. Shirts always seemed to be too tight
in areas I really didn't want to accentuate.

Interview clothes came mainly from Filenes and Macy's. I
had a few things from Lord and Taylor.

Every day clothes were men's jeans/khakis and button down
shirts from the Gap.

Aside from the size of the jeans/suits I wear, where I
purchase my clothes really hasn't changed.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:58:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27279
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 04:58:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBFCF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:02:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13252097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:07:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GF7qN19331 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:07:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8CCF47FFE; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 08:07:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716150751.8CCF47FFE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:07:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3435B3.2519993D@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 16,
              2002 11: 3:15 am"

alyce cresap said:
> "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
> >
> > My housemate Vladimir, perhaps out of inexperience with the world
> > of consumerism (he is from Siberia), has signed up for various
> > <offers>.
>
> Do you know that the State of NY has a program that you can sign up for
> so that you don't get these calls? Call the Attorney General's office
> for the details. I think you can do it on the web, too, but I haven't
> googled for it. I signed on about 18 months ago, and get almost no such
> calls any more. Exceptions are that charities are still allowed to call,
> and companies with whom you have a "relationship," like a credit card
> company can call to offer you a special travel plan or something.

In Texas, this costs $3. I didn't think it was worth it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 05:01:30 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27304
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 05:01:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012CF41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:10:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13252426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:10:58 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GFAwN20104 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:10:58 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust143.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.145]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005272899@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:10:56 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716150751.8CCF47FFE@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3437E8.28805283@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:12:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> In Texas, this costs $3. I didn't think it was worth it.

No charge here. It's worth that and more to me.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 05:01:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27308
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 05:01:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012CF4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:11:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13252450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:11:07 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GFB6N20173 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:11:06 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id SAA20618 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:11:05
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA20535 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 18:11:04 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716000256.2D0037F28@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D337FB4.9776F92E@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D343751.CFCC534A@akad.ee>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:10:09 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> > > I'm not even touching this.
> >
> > Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
>
> I don't get this at all.  Why do y'all care whether I watch the clock or
> count lengths or count laps when swimming???

LOL. Why shouldn't we? If you've written about it and sent it to words-l?

It *is* words-l, you see.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 05:12:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27357
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 05:12:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBFE62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:16:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13253213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:21:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GFLxN22080 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:21:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 936137FEB; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 08:21:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716152158.936137FEB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:21:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3437E8.28805283@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 16,
              2002 11:12:40 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > In Texas, this costs $3. I didn't think it was worth it.
>
> No charge here. It's worth that and more to me.

99.9% of my telemarketing calls are from a) charities or b) companies
   with which I have a relationship.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 05:13:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27368
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 05:13:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBFE8D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:17:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13253339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:23:25 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GFNON22369 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:23:24 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id SAA24967 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:23:23
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA24884 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 18:23:22 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716150217.6BD6E7FFD@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D343A33.A27F1DB@akad.ee>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:22:27 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > Try as I do, I still miss so much, although I've eagerly concentrated on
> > meebers' personal matters (my, how it sounds here!) when reading last weeks'
> > post.
>
> Oh, Kristin, I don't expect anyone else here to keep the details of my
> life straight when I can barely manage.

I wish the best, of course, but what was funny: I first read it as if you said, "I
don't expect anyone else [but you] to keep...". Especially because my own remark
of the personal matters of you all was exactly like one of an old gossiper.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 05:19:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27399
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 05:19:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBFF08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:23:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13253642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:28:49 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f63.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.63]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GFSnN23173 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:28:49 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 08:28:44 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:28:43 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 15:28:44.0114 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[78848320:01C22CDD]
Message-ID:  <F634hJzp7kaLl6RmonD00015f22@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:28:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I gave up on LB a long time ago. Their quality was
>seriously lacking and their sizing was weird.

Likewise, I can't make sense of the Lane Bryant clothes. And besides, they
make one look like the quintissential fat old lady. The Dillards here has
half of the second floor dedicated to larger sizes now, which I assume
reflects a national trend to sell to the larger woman. The WSJ has written
about this several times in the past two years. I typically find stuff I
like in the Elisabeth (Liz Claiborne's line) and the Tommy Hilfiger sections
of the store, but almost all the major retail designers offer clothes in big
sizes.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 05:20:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27410
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 05:20:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBFF25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:24:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13253727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:29:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GFThN23324 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:29:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F1F417E5E; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 08:29:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716152936.F1F417E5E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:29:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D343A33.A27F1DB@akad.ee> from Kristin Sarv at "Jul 16,
              2002  6:22:27 pm"

Kristin Sarv said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Oh, Kristin, I don't expect anyone else here to keep the details of my
> > life straight when I can barely manage.
>
> I wish the best, of course, but what was funny: I first read it as if you said, "I
> don't expect anyone else [but you] to keep...". Especially because my own remark
> of the personal matters of you all was exactly like one of an old gossiper.

Well, I think I have done the same to you.

To be honest, I couldn't remember what I'd said on-list and didn't
want to repeat myself two days in a row.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 05:21:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27418
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 05:21:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBFF4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:25:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13253837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:31:10 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GFV9N23606 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:31:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F12E97D43; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 08:31:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716153108.F12E97D43@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:31:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F634hJzp7kaLl6RmonD00015f22@hotmail.com> from Anne Toal at "Jul
              16, 2002 10:28:43 am"

Anne Toal said:
> >I gave up on LB a long time ago. Their quality was
> >seriously lacking and their sizing was weird.
>
> Likewise, I can't make sense of the Lane Bryant clothes. And besides, they
> make one look like the quintissential fat old lady. The Dillards here has
> half of the second floor dedicated to larger sizes now, which I assume
> reflects a national trend to sell to the larger woman. The WSJ has written
> about this several times in the past two years. I typically find stuff I
> like in the Elisabeth (Liz Claiborne's line) and the Tommy Hilfiger sections
> of the store, but almost all the major retail designers offer clothes in big
> sizes.

The problem I have is that they don't all offer women's petite
clothes. The big sizes often assume an overall largeness of body that
I don't possess. I know that Nordstrom's does, and can't wait till
they finish building ours.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 05:23:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27424
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 05:23:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EBFF74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:27:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13253933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:32:47 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GFWkN23884 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:32:47 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6GFWkG21112
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:32:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716032744.F11F37FE0@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D33F9A0.48D95434@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D343E61.5BED568F@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:40:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > Ann Borkin said:
> > > Now I'm wondering, what's so fucking funny, K****?  That an 80 year old
> > > had sex?  Had a live-in girlfriend?
> > >
> > > Huh?  Huh?
> >
> > I find it sweet and surprising that 45 years later he rediscovered
> > this woman he was married to before. I think it's sweet that it was so
> > good that this woman came for 3 days and stayed for 18. It's not
> > funny, but it made me laugh because it's all so unexpected.
>
> It's not the first time people have gotten married again to each other
> after many years and spouses.  Off the top of my head I can think of a
> similar case -- somebody I knew in Columbus who got a divorce from wife
> #3 to marry wife #2 after not having been around wife #2 in over 30
> years at least.  I'm not sure that it was as long as 45 years.  (I heard
> that it wasn't exactly for <sweet> motives, though -- that he did it
> because he was very mad at wife #3 and wanted to make sure she wouldn't
> have any rights to inherit anything when he died.  I don't know whether
> that rumor was true.  I do know that he rediscovered and married wife #2
> in his old age.)

Now that is hilarious!

BB

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 05:31:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27490
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 05:31:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0043@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:35:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13254650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:41:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GFfLN25730 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:41:21 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 22EDF7FED; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 08:41:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716154118.22EDF7FED@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:41:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      CD Q
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Mem can probably solve this problem for me, too.:)

*er* lent me a CD of some music, and I want to copy it, but while it
plays fine in my CD player, the CD drive in my computer won't
recognize it, and it seems slightly warped. However, it doesn't look
warped when I lift it up and look at it. Any ideas?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 05:36:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27516
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 05:36:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012D2E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:46:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13255083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:46:15 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GFkFN26680 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:46:15 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6GFkE7Y169193 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          11:46:15 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000101c22cdf$eb41ea90$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:46:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet and ATTENTION ROY and STEPH
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F634hJzp7kaLl6RmonD00015f22@hotmail.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Anne Toal
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:29 AM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
>
>
> >I gave up on LB a long time ago. Their quality was
> >seriously lacking and their sizing was weird.
>
> Likewise, I can't make sense of the Lane Bryant clothes. And
> besides, they
> make one look like the quintissential fat old lady. The
> Dillards here has
> half of the second floor dedicated to larger sizes now, which I assume
> reflects a national trend to sell to the larger woman. The
> WSJ has written
> about this several times in the past two years. I typically
> find stuff I
> like in the Elisabeth (Liz Claiborne's line) and the Tommy
> Hilfiger sections
> of the store, but almost all the major retail designers offer
> clothes in big
> sizes.
>
> -aht

Heide and I noticed that none of Lane Bryant's models are close to being
plus sized or Woman sized. Also many of the catalogs I get are the same
problem. Men who are thin and not plus sized. One other store for sports
clothing which Heide likes is Junonia. or www.junonia.com with real
sized models if any needs that kind of clothing.


The most recent Heide news is, she is feeling much better. Getting an
MRI every three months and growing stronger. She has started working as
a temp for ING. or http://www.ingvariableannuities.com/ For those who
don't know, ING is a very large Dutch financial services firm.

alec

------------
Alec D. Plotkin-IT Support Specialist
plotkina@isc.upenn.edu
''Some see things as they are and ask, 'Why?', I choose to see things as
they never were and ask, 'Why not?''' - Robert Kennedy

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 05:39:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27529
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 05:39:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC00F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:42:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13255233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:48:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GFmSN27025 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:48:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 98DFE8014; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 08:48:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716154826.98DFE8014@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:48:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716113130.B21131@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              16, 2002 11:31:30 am"

steph said:
> Well, in the worst case, the thing will eventually rot (this is a
> joke K@R3N, please smile).

Fiberglass doesn't rot, but I am very concerned about the tires
rotting.

> Either I missed it, or you haven't
> let us in on the gorey details of what went wrong,

With the boat or MNF? I have no intention of talking about MNF, but
the boat has always had a missing foredeck.

> I hope I'm not shoving your nose in it, but
> what does the contract have to say about you making improvements
> and paying for them?  What happens when the amount of money you
> put in to the boat is equal to the amount that he originally
> spent on it?

I don't know. I don't have that amount of money--if I did, I think I'd
buy him out. *er* wants to help me get the boat seaworthy, and he has
friends who can help (and are willing to, at least for a while). But
what really depressed and upset me is that last night MNF said that
even if I get *er* and his buds to fix the boat, he'd rather sell it
than sail it. I don't want to sell it if I can sail it. Jeeze, not
after all this!

> What about selling the damn thing?

We agreed to do this a few months ago, at MNF's instigation--but then
he didn't do anything about it, and I didn't notice right away.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 05:40:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27541
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 05:40:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0118@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:44:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13255329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:50:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GFo1N27238 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:50:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B2FD57F45; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 08:50:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716155000.B2FD57F45@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:50:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet and ATTENTION ROY and STEPH
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000101c22cdf$eb41ea90$48305b80@EAGLE72> from "Alec D. Plotkin"
              at "Jul 16, 2002 11:46:14 am"

Alec D. Plotkin said:
> Heide and I noticed that none of Lane Bryant's models are close to being
> plus sized or Woman sized. Also many of the catalogs I get are the same
> problem. Men who are thin and not plus sized. One other store for sports
> clothing which Heide likes is Junonia. or www.junonia.com with real
> sized models if any needs that kind of clothing.

I like the way the Junonia clothes look, but I've never ordered
anything from them.

> The most recent Heide news is, she is feeling much better. Getting an
> MRI every three months and growing stronger. She has started working as
> a temp for ING. or http://www.ingvariableannuities.com/ For those who
> don't know, ING is a very large Dutch financial services firm.

Yay! I have a bank account with them.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 05:42:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27547
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 05:42:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC012C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:45:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13255393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:51:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GFpYN27420 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:51:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7258580B3; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 08:51:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716155133.7258580B3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:51:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716102626.00b48d10@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 16, 2002 10:28: 2 am"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> At 03:58 PM 7/16/2002 +0200, steph wrote:
> >= >let us in on the  [[[[ gorey ]]]]  details of what went wrong...
> >=
> >= Given Karen's situation, this seems a very apt typo.
> >=
> >= cwv
> >
> >What like finely ink illustrated?  Like prone to disaster?
>
> I was thinking more along the lines of slightly bizarre, askew, ten degrees
> off plumb, etc.

Yes, this is my life. I am going to title my autobiography "Ten
Degrees Off Plumb", I think.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:00:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27709
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:00:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC030C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:04:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13256941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:09:50 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GG9nN31187 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:09:50 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6GG9n7Y439583; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:09:49 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000001c22ce3$3666f2b0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:09:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Amazing and true
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

This morning's Wilmington News Journal has a front page story about a
University of Delaware student who has been accused of hacking into the
UD
computer system and changing her grades (from F's to A's). The story is
available online at:

http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2002/07/16studentaccused
o.html

UD police allege the student used "social engineering" to accomplish
this -
on two occasions she simply called human resources claiming to be the
instructor, and got them to change the password on the instructor's
account. In a third instance, she guessed the instructor's password.

The lesson here is that passwords, their inherent weaknesses, and the
way
that they are handled and issued, continue to be a prime source of
computer
attacks.

alec


------------
Alec D. Plotkin
plotkina@isc.upenn.edu

"Peace cannot be kept by force.  It can only be achieved by
understanding" - Albert Einstein

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:03:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27736
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:03:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0343@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:07:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13257070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:12:59 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f198.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.198]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGCxN31530 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:12:59 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 09:12:53 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:12:53 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 16:12:53.0974 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A3F50F60:01C22CE3]
Message-ID:  <F198ZqWw7T8VyRfAG0e000160ce@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:12:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Heidi's good news and life in a small town
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Alec, great news about Heidi!

Continuing on the subject of large size stores, there is a chain in the big
cities called Chico's. Don't know anything about them because they don't
locate stores out in the sticks. But the WSJ says they serve "women of a
certain avoirdupois" and that their stock is doing well. Does anyone here
shop there?

Speaking of stores that don't come to the smaller markets, Barnes & Noble
was one of them. They claimed there weren't enough rooftops within a certain
radius of north McAllen and that the University didn't have enough
professors, or some such bilgewater. Hastings is a smaller chain that tries
to locate in markets of about 100,000 people, so they don't compete with
B&N.

Well a few years ago we got a Hastings and would you believe it, they were a
runaway hit. To the point of driving several privately owned small bookshops
out of business and making the Waldenbooks in the mall clean up its act. So
what happens next? B&N decides that maybe they were too "hasty" ruling out
McAllen. They are building a big-ass store just three blocks from the
Hastings. Bye bye Hastings. Unless I am really wrong about the size of the
book market in McAllen, there can be only one large retail chain.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:06:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27751
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:06:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012D5C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:15:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13257209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:15:31 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGFVN31873 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:15:31 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6GGFN7Y398562 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          12:15:30 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000201c22ce4$01755eb0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:15:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      FW: **Virus Alert -- W32.Frethem.K**
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

A new virus warning for us Micro$oft people. Update your anti-virus
products.



alec



> Hi folks --
>
> This is an alert regarding W32.Frethem.K, a mass-mailing worm
> that began
> spreading early this morning.  This worm affects machines
> running Windows
> 95, 98, ME, NT, 2000, and XP.  The worm arrives via an email with two
> attachments named Decrypt-password.exe and Password.txt respectively,
> which, if executed, will email the worm to all entries in the user's
> Windows Address Book and in .dbx, .wab, .mbx, .eml, and .mdb
> files.  The
> worm does not have a destructive payload.
>
> Symantec definitions dated July 15, 2002 (version 40715c) will detect
> W32.Frethem.K.  There have been several dozen blocked
> detections (with a
> few infections) of W32.Frethem.K on campus so far today.
>
>
> Characteristics
> ---------------
>
> The virus arrives in an email with the subject "Re: Your
> password!" and
> the message body:
>
> "ATTENTION!
>
> You can access
> very important
> information by
> this password
>
> DO NOT SAVE
> password to disk
> use your mind
>
> now press
> cancel"
>
> The email will contain two attachments named
> "Decrypt-password.exe" and
> "Password.txt" respectively.
>
> When the attachment (Decrypt-password.exe) is executed, the
> worm will do
> the following:
>
> -- copy itself to the file %windir%\Taskbar.exe
> -- send itself to addresses in the user's Windows Address book and all
> .dbx, .wab, .mbx, .eml, and .mdb files
> -- configure itself to start when you start Windows by adding
> the value:
>
> Task Bar     %windir%\taskbar.exe
>
> to the registry key:
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
>
> NOTE: The Decrypt-password.exe attachment is a copy of the worm. It is
> packed with UPX and PE-Pack, and its size is approximately 48 KB. The
> second attachment, Password.txt, is a text file that is
> approximately 93
> bytes in length. Password.txt is not viral by itself.  As
> such, it is not
> detected by Symantec antivirus products. However, if the computer was
> infected by W32.Frethem.K@mm worm, you should delete the file
> manually.
>
> When the worm arrives by email, it uses both an IFRAME
> exploit and a MIME
> exploit, which allow the virus to be executed when you read or even
> preview the file. Information and a patch for MIME exploit
> can be found
> at http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-020.asp.
>
> After sleeping for several hours, the worm copies itself to
> C:\Windows\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\Setup.exe so
> that it is
> executed each time that you start Windows.
>
> Recovery
> --------
>
> Current information on recovery from W32.Frethem.K is:
>
> -- run LiveUpdate to install the 07/15/2002 (or later)
> version of NAV's
> virus definitions
> -- run a full system scan of the user's hard drive
> -- delete all files detected as W32.Frethem.K@mm
>
> The registry must also be edited to remove the entry added by
> the virus:
>
> -- Delete the value
>
> Task Bar
>
> from the registry key
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
>
>
> Protection
> ----------
>
> Symantec definitions dated 7/15/2002 will detect the virus.
> Delete any
> files that are detected as W32.Frethem.K@mm.  Instructions on how to
> update NAV definition files are located at:
>
http://www.upenn.edu/computing/help/doc/virus/nav/winnavupdate.html


Further information on the W32.Frethem.K worm can be found at:

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.frethem.k@mm.html
http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99565.htm
http://www.europe.f-secure.com/v-descs/frethem.shtml
http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_FRE
THEM.K
http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32frethemfam.html

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:06:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27755
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:06:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0372@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:09:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13257213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:15:33 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGFXN31878 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:15:33 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6GGFWG04500
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:15:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000101c22cdf$eb41ea90$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D344867.2EFF2BC8@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:23:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet and ATTENTION ROY and STEPH
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:

> The most recent Heide news is, she is feeling much better. Getting an
> MRI every three months and growing stronger. She has started working as
> a temp for ING. or http://www.ingvariableannuities.com/ For those who
> don't know, ING is a very large Dutch financial services firm.

Thanks, Alec.  This is a great report to hear.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:07:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27760
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:07:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012D5DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:16:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13257244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:16:30 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGGUN31962 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:16:30 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6GGGTG05640
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:16:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716154826.98DFE8014@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3448A0.BC582F8A@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:24:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> steph said:
> > Well, in the worst case, the thing will eventually rot (this is a
> > joke K@R3N, please smile).
>
> Fiberglass doesn't rot, but I am very concerned about the tires
> rotting.
>
> > Either I missed it, or you haven't
> > let us in on the gorey details of what went wrong,
>
> With the boat or MNF? I have no intention of talking about MNF, but
> the boat has always had a missing foredeck.
>
> > I hope I'm not shoving your nose in it, but
> > what does the contract have to say about you making improvements
> > and paying for them?  What happens when the amount of money you
> > put in to the boat is equal to the amount that he originally
> > spent on it?
>
> I don't know. I don't have that amount of money--if I did, I think I'd
> buy him out. *er* wants to help me get the boat seaworthy, and he has
> friends who can help (and are willing to, at least for a while). But
> what really depressed and upset me is that last night MNF said that
> even if I get *er* and his buds to fix the boat, he'd rather sell it
> than sail it. I don't want to sell it if I can sail it. Jeeze, not
> after all this!
>
> > What about selling the damn thing?
>
> We agreed to do this a few months ago, at MNF's instigation--but then
> he didn't do anything about it, and I didn't notice right away.

 I thought you just met him a few weeks ago?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:10:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27777
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:10:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012D625@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:20:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13257348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:20:17 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGKGN32271 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:20:16 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id TAA05916 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:20:15
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA05832 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 19:20:14 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000101c22cdf$eb41ea90$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D344787.611791B0@akad.ee>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:19:19 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet and ATTENTION ROY and STEPH
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:

> The most recent Heide news is, she is feeling much better. Getting an
> MRI every three months and growing stronger. She has started working

Good!

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:11:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27783
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:11:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC03B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:14:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13257365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:20:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGKXN32293 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:20:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EE9237EDC; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 09:20:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716162031.EE9237EDC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:20:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3448A0.BC582F8A@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 16,
              2002  9:24: 0 am"

Betty said:
> > We agreed to do this a few months ago, at MNF's instigation--but then
> > he didn't do anything about it, and I didn't notice right away.
>
>  I thought you just met him a few weeks ago?

MNF and I agreed to sell the boat long before I met *er*.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:11:45 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27787
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:11:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012D63F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:21:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13257477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:21:07 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGL7N32380 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:21:07 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6GGL57Y365127 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          12:21:06 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000401c22ce4$c9d06a80$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:21:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Heidi's good news and life in a small town
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F198ZqWw7T8VyRfAG0e000160ce@hotmail.com>

>
> Alec, great news about Heidi!

Heide

> Continuing on the subject of large size stores, there is a
> chain in the big
> cities called Chico's. Don't know anything about them because
> they don't
> locate stores out in the sticks. But the WSJ says they serve
> "women of a
> certain avoirdupois" and that their stock is doing well. Does
> anyone here
> shop there?
>

A store just opened in a mall near us in Paoli, PA. Heide and her mom
will investigate next week.

alec - who knows too much about Women's clothing. Don't get me started
on bras.


PS http://www.chicos.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:17:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27843
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:17:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012D6F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:27:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13258104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:27:10 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGR9N00905 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:27:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DC9C1802D; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 09:27:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716162708.DC9C1802D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:27:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Chico's :(
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Only goes up to size 16.:(

Karen
fatter than that

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:21:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27871
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:21:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012D73B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:30:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13258361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:30:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGUdN01425 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:30:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0C6D17F26; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 09:30:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716163039.0C6D17F26@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:30:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

*er* fixed my lawnmower transformer, which saved me megabucks, and in
 return, he asked me to design a Japanese meal that we could cook
 together. I'm still playing with the menu, but I'm wondering, what's
 your favorite Japanese food, excluding noodles, sushi, sashimi, and
 one-pot dishes? Do you like seaweed salad? What particular vegetable
 things do you like?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:26:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27892
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:26:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012D7B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:36:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13258870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:36:19 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f23.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.23]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGaJN02543 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:36:19 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 09:36:14 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 16:36:12 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 16:36:14.0075 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[E67B84B0:01C22CE6]
Message-ID:  <F23pYoIZCHrvJNdLhi900012ed0@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:36:12 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

This probably is an American Japanese invention, but *uc* and I love Beef
Negamaki. (which includes scallions, but of course isn't really a vegetable
thing).

I don't know if I've ever had seaweed salad, though I'd like to. The Jersey
shore is extra seaweedy this year, must be something with the weather.

Marie


>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
>Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:30:38 -0700
>
>*er* fixed my lawnmower transformer, which saved me megabucks, and in
>  return, he asked me to design a Japanese meal that we could cook
>  together. I'm still playing with the menu, but I'm wondering, what's
>  your favorite Japanese food, excluding noodles, sushi, sashimi, and
>  one-pot dishes? Do you like seaweed salad? What particular vegetable
>  things do you like?
>
>Karen




Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:29:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27908
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:29:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC05C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:33:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13259027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:39:17 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGdHN02911 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:39:17 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust188.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.190]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003968982@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:39:15 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716152158.936137FEB@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D344C9A.DEDD2B10@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:40:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> 99.9% of my telemarketing calls are from a) charities or b) companies
>    with which I have a relationship.

Here it is vinyl siding, screens/storm windows, septic system treatment,
mostly.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:31:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27927
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:31:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012D823@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:41:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13259109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:41:06 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGf6N03115 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:41:06 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust188.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.190]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005274995@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:41:00 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716153108.F12E97D43@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D344D03.5A737668@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:42:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> The problem I have is that they don't all offer women's petite
> clothes.

How about Land's End? They have petites, I think. Plain tailored stuff.


alyce


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:32:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27941
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:32:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012D843@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:42:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13259164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:42:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGgFN03265 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:42:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2CE958045; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 09:42:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716164215.2CE958045@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:42:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F23pYoIZCHrvJNdLhi900012ed0@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 16, 2002 12:36:12 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> This probably is an American Japanese invention, but *uc* and I love Beef
> Negamaki. (which includes scallions, but of course isn't really a vegetable
> thing).

Negimaki. I just looked this up. This will be a good thing to make, I
think. I'm planning to do a kind of kaiseki ryori, which is more or
less a tasting menu. It usually doesn't include beef, because it's not
a traditional food, but I haven't decided how traditional this will
be, yet.

> I don't know if I've ever had seaweed salad, though I'd like to.

It has the virtue of being both crunchy and slimy at the same time.:)
Trader Joe's sells one that's pretty good. I've never tried to make
it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:33:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27946
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:33:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC060F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:37:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13259218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:43:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGh5N03368 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:43:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9C901802D; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 09:43:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716164304.9C901802D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:43:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D344C9A.DEDD2B10@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 16,
              2002 12:40:58 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > 99.9% of my telemarketing calls are from a) charities or b) companies
> >    with which I have a relationship.
>
> Here it is vinyl siding, screens/storm windows, septic system treatment,
> mostly.

Huh. I'm just lucky I guess.:-/

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:34:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27950
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:34:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0618@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:37:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13259255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:43:25 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGhPN03447 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:43:25 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust188.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.190]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003969056@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:43:24 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000101c22cdf$eb41ea90$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D344D93.8378681A@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:45:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet and ATTENTION ROY and STEPH
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:
> The most recent Heide news is, she is feeling much better. Getting an
> MRI every three months and growing stronger.

This is great news! Go, Heide!

alyce

--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:34:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27954
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:34:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC061D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:38:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13259270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:43:39 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGhWN03473 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:43:33 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6GGhW7Y394676 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          12:43:32 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000601c22ce7$ec212d60$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:43:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D344D03.5A737668@valstar.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of alyce cresap
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:43 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
>
>
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > >
> > The problem I have is that they don't all offer women's petite
> > clothes.
>
> How about Land's End? They have petites, I think. Plain
> tailored stuff.
>
>
> alyce
>
>
Very nice clothing, expensive and they don't plus sizes very well for
either men or women. I love the briefcase I have from them.

alec


------------
Alec D. Plotkin
plotkina@isc.upenn.edu

"Peace cannot be kept by force.  It can only be achieved by
understanding" - Albert Einstein

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:34:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27959
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:34:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0621@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:38:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13259282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:44:03 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f252.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.77]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGhsN03514 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:43:54 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 09:43:48 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 16:43:48 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 16:43:48.0708 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[F5770240:01C22CE7]
Message-ID:  <F252IWDO3hRDT6Z3Lst000130ec@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:43:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Heide
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
>The most recent Heide news is, she is feeling much better. Getting an
>MRI every three months and growing stronger. She has started working as
>a temp for ING. or http://www.ingvariableannuities.com/ For those who
>don't know, ING is a very large Dutch financial services firm.

Very glad to hear it! Is she working full- or part-time?

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:34:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27963
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:34:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0627@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:38:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13259301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:44:11 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGi9N03567 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:44:10 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E207880F4; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 09:44:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716164408.E207880F4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:44:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D344D03.5A737668@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 16,
              2002 12:42:43 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > The problem I have is that they don't all offer women's petite
> > clothes.
>
> How about Land's End? They have petites, I think. Plain tailored stuff.

Do they have petites in women's sizes? That's new. Too expensive for
right now, but I'll look into it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:36:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27979
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:36:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0677@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:40:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13259537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:46:16 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGkGN03959 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:46:16 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust188.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.190]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003969124@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:46:14 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000101c22cdf$eb41ea90$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D344E3D.7B5D3352@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:47:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet and ATTENTION ROY and STEPH
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen, go to Nordstro's page. They have petites and special sizes shown
from various designers.

http://store.nordstrom.com/category/tab.asp?category=2376776~2374324&origin=subtab

Actually, if you google women's petite dresses,there are many hits.

alyce

--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:39:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27990
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:39:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC06F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:43:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13259874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:48:51 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGmpN04572 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:48:51 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6GGmo7Y422426 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          12:48:50 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000701c22ce8$a9d971f0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:48:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Heide
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F252IWDO3hRDT6Z3Lst000130ec@hotmail.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marie Ascher
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:44 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Heide
>
>
> >From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
> >The most recent Heide news is, she is feeling much better. Getting an
> >MRI every three months and growing stronger. She has started
> working as
> >a temp for ING. or http://www.ingvariableannuities.com/ For those who
> >don't know, ING is a very large Dutch financial services firm.
>
> Very glad to hear it! Is she working full- or part-time?
>
> Marie
>    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com

Full-time temp until the end of August.

alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:39:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27994
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:39:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC06F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:43:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13259886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:48:56 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGmtN04591 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:48:55 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6GGrw822783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:53:58
          +0200
References: <000001c22ce3$3666f2b0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716185357.A22732@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:53:57 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Amazing and true
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000001c22ce3$3666f2b0$48305b80@EAGLE72>; from
              plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU on Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 12:09:49PM -0400

=
= The lesson here is that passwords, their inherent weaknesses, and the
= way
= that they are handled and issued, continue to be a prime source of
= computer
= attacks.
=
= alec
=

That and, social engineering is a far sight cleaner than dumpster
diving.   Pat read somewhere that some phone company employees
got warned not to become part of a social engineering training
tape this week during H2K2.  That's what happend a couple of
years ago.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:39:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27999
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:39:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC070D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:43:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13259977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:49:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGnMN04786 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:49:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A6190802D; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 09:49:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716164921.A6190802D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:49:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet and ATTENTION ROY and STEPH
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D344E3D.7B5D3352@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 16,
              2002 12:47:57 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen, go to Nordstro's page. They have petites and special sizes shown
> from various designers.

Yes, that's what I said. I'm waiting for them to finish building the
one here.

I don't need just petites, I need LARGE, fatso petites. All the places
that just feature petites generally stop well before my size.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:44:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28020
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:44:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012D98E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:53:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13260561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:53:44 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f120.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.120]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGriN06139 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:53:44 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 09:53:38 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 16:53:38 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 16:53:38.0754 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[5528E220:01C22CE9]
Message-ID:  <F120guOi6taaXM1ZbyM00012e9c@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:53:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > > I find it sweet and surprising that 45 years later he rediscovered
> > > this woman he was married to before. I think it's sweet that it was so
> > > good that this woman came for 3 days and stayed for 18. It's not
> > > funny, but it made me laugh because it's all so unexpected.
> >
> > It's not the first time people have gotten married again to each other
> > after many years and spouses.

I know a couple who were high school sweethearts who broke up in their late
teens, than reconnected in their late thirties, both divorced. They are now
married, and sickeningly-sweetly in love. It's a beautiful thing.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:48:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28045
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:48:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0810@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:52:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13260814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:58:11 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GGwAN06797 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:58:10 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6GH3D822809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:03:13
          +0200
References: <20020716163039.0C6D17F26@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716190313.B22732@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:03:13 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716163039.0C6D17F26@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 09:30:38AM -0700

=  one-pot dishes? Do you like seaweed salad? What particular vegetable
=  things do you like?
=
= Karen

A very simple miso soup, maybe 1 cup per person, with a dusting
of green onion sliced into rings and very little cubes of tofu,
say one layer at the bottom of the cup, and just a breath of
seaweed.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:50:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28059
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:50:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0852@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:54:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13261044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 13:00:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GH07N07307 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:00:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 698B981E6; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:00:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716170006.698B981E6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:00:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716190313.B22732@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              16, 2002  7: 3:13 pm"

steph said:
> =  one-pot dishes? Do you like seaweed salad? What particular vegetable
> =  things do you like?
> =
> = Karen
>
> A very simple miso soup, maybe 1 cup per person, with a dusting
> of green onion sliced into rings and very little cubes of tofu,
> say one layer at the bottom of the cup, and just a breath of
> seaweed.

Yep, that's already on the menu--white miso, not red.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:52:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28077
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:52:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012DA71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:01:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13261168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 13:02:00 -0400
Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GH1xN07626 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:01:59 -0400
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com
          (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g6GH1w793030 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:01:58 -1000 (HST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D335F05.22366.349075@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
            "Jul 15, 2002 11:47:17 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D33C512.11817.1C3354B@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:02:42 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@FLEX.COM>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716140520.A4C7B7E18@yellow.rahul.net>

On 16 Jul 2002 at 7:05, Karen Kay wrote:

> And there's no information about the differences between the two
> words?

No. It's the best there is in a dictionary, but it isn't on a par with the OED.

    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:56:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28098
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:56:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012DAD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:05:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13261547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 13:05:42 -0400
Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GH5fN08605 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:05:41 -0400
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com
          (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g6GH5e794082 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:05:40 -1000 (HST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D33C5F0.11809.1C697DA@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:06:24 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@FLEX.COM>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: CD Q
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716154118.22EDF7FED@yellow.rahul.net>

On 16 Jul 2002 at 8:41, Karen Kay wrote:

> Mem can probably solve this problem for me, too.:)

Yes, I have a solution: Check with Pete.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:57:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28113
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 06:57:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012DAEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:06:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13261625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 13:06:41 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GH6fN08775 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:06:41 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id UAA14135 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:06:40
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA14051 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 20:06:38 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F214WcB2KWFYobPJLTq00004ab1@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020710143114.03402660@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D345267.73D03D23@akad.ee>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:05:43 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Reading old messages I found this:

Espen Ore wrote:

> 15:27 02.07.2002 -0400 skrev Paul R. Barfoot:
> >I think gender neutral but not neuter pronouns are a great idea. I
>
> You have them in Finnish. (And in Estonian, Kristin?)

Exactly. He and she are absolutely the same. So when I speak or write in
English and have little time for thinking carefully how to say things it
may easily happen that I speak of a woman, and then I suddenly say, '...
and then he...'. On best days there's no need for careful thinking,
sometimes, very rarely, though, there's the right *feeling* of English,
so that the brain switches over, onto "English channel".

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:01:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28133
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 07:01:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0956@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:05:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13261815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 13:10:54 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GHArN09224 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:10:53 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6GHFua22841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:15:56
          +0200
References: <3D344D03.5A737668@valstar.net>
            <000601c22ce7$ec212d60$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716191556.C22732@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:15:56 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000601c22ce7$ec212d60$48305b80@EAGLE72>; from
              plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU on Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 12:43:32PM -0400

= Very nice clothing, expensive and they don't plus sizes very well for
= either men or women. I love the briefcase I have from them.
=
= alec
=

I beg to differ.  My interview outfits come from Lands End.
Since I just came from one, which went very well, thank you, I
can tell you that I'm wearing some variety of their stretchy pull
on pants (sport knit/flat front/necessary knit) and a fine gague
sweater twinset (black sox and black suede birkenstock bostons).
Hell, I even switched out my normal silver stud and silver ring
earings for some blue dangly hearts.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:03:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28146
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 07:03:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0973@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:06:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13261878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 13:12:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GHCVN09403 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:12:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E81978045; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:12:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716171227.E81978045@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:12:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: CD Q
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D33C5F0.11809.1C697DA@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 16, 2002  7: 6:24 am"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 16 Jul 2002 at 8:41, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Mem can probably solve this problem for me, too.:)
>
> Yes, I have a solution: Check with Pete.

Works for me.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:09:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28168
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 07:09:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0A0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:12:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13262368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 13:18:27 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GHIQN10493 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:18:26 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust188.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.190]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003969850@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 13:18:13 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716164921.A6190802D@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3455B9.B7941BEF@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:19:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet and ATTENTION ROY and STEPH
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> Yes, that's what I said. I'm waiting for them to finish building the
> one here.

Please google this: women's petite dresses size 18
There are plenty of plus sized petites listed.

Try this for a long list (with links) of many stores with large or
special sizes.
http://www.geocities.com/tenorqueen/general.html
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:16:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28209
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 07:16:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0AA6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:19:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13262919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 13:25:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GHPXN11913 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:25:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CC8887F2D; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:24:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716172427.CC8887F2D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:24:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet and ATTENTION ROY and STEPH
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3455B9.B7941BEF@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 16,
              2002  1:19:53 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Please google this: women's petite dresses size 18
> There are plenty of plus sized petites listed.

Yes, but I'm not ordering from catalogs. That makes it harder. I'm
better off asking on a local professional women's list than bothering
with google. (Which is what I will do if I get a job that requires
nice clothes.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:32:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28290
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 07:32:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012DDAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:42:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13263595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 13:42:17 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f180.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.180]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GHgGN14192 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:42:17 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 10:42:11 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 17:42:11 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 17:42:11.0544 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[1D515D80:01C22CF0]
Message-ID:  <F180roBCADIsipni1ZA00013185@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:42:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
>??  The point of my posting was simply to say that I now just swim for
>lengths of time, not counting anything, just looking at the clocks on
>the wall.  Not that I think you particularly <need> to touch the
>subject, but I don't really understand why you responded.

I certainly didn't mean to offend you, Natalie. I've read most of the posts
that followed my comment. I responded "I'm not even touching this" because
we've been through this conversation several times. To me, someone who swam
competitively for many years, 1 lap=1 length, end of story. Every coach and
every official that I ever encountered used the words interchangeably. That
was the part of your post I was responding to. I cannot imagine why anyone
would ever count every two lengths, it's illogical. A "lap counter" in the
500 yard distance, counts from 1-20, one for each length. However, since
reading words-l, I have become fully aware that an ambiguity does exist. I
didn't know this until. If you do a search on google: swimming glossary lap
length -- it's about 50/50 from the sample I looked at, some saying two
lengths equals one lap, the others like me. With this realization, I tend to
use "lengths" whenever quantifying how many times I go from one end to
another while swimming laps. Your method of watching the clock, however, is
completely sensible. I like to know how far I've gone, but don't in any way
see that as superior.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:33:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28297
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 07:33:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0BB3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:36:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13263605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 13:42:34 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GHgYN14208 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:42:34 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id KAA93500 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          10:42:33 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207161042030.83593-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:42:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716025636.DFCE382B8@yellow.rahul.net>

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> > She already showed me her breasts.  What more could I ask for?
>
> You know, if I told Betty the story, she wouldn't believe it.
>
That's okay.  Just tell me the story.  I promise to believe it.

 Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:35:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28308
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 07:35:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0BCE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:39:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13263652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 13:44:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GHimN14410 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:44:48 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D316B8239; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 10:44:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716174447.D316B8239@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:44:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207161042030.83593-100000@idiom.com> from Sharon
              Ziperovich at "Jul 16, 2002 10:42:33 am"

Sharon Ziperovich said:
> On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > > She already showed me her breasts.  What more could I ask for?
> >
> > You know, if I told Betty the story, she wouldn't believe it.
> >
> That's okay.  Just tell me the story.  I promise to believe it.

I'll leave it to Boo. I just remember it being a really satisfying
experience.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:49:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28385
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 07:49:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0D0D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:52:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13264580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 13:58:27 -0400
Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GHwRN17262 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:58:27 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.161] ([208.138.31.74]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with
          ESMTP id <20020716165635.HDUQ15769.mail@[208.138.31.74]> for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:56:35 -0400
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B959C8E9.F29D%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:58:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F180roBCADIsipni1ZA00013185@hotmail.com>

On 16/7/2002 12:42 PM, Marie Ascher wrote:

>> From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
>> ??  The point of my posting was simply to say that I now just swim for
>> lengths of time, not counting anything, just looking at the clocks on
>> the wall.  Not that I think you particularly <need> to touch the
>> subject, but I don't really understand why you responded.
>
> I certainly didn't mean to offend you, Natalie. I've read most of the posts
> that followed my comment. I responded "I'm not even touching this" because
> we've been through this conversation several times. To me, someone who swam
> competitively for many years, 1 lap=1 length, end of story. Every coach and
> every official that I ever encountered used the words interchangeably. That
> was the part of your post I was responding to. I cannot imagine why anyone
> would ever count every two lengths, it's illogical. A "lap counter" in the
> 500 yard distance, counts from 1-20, one for each length. However, since
> reading words-l, I have become fully aware that an ambiguity does exist. I
> didn't know this until. If you do a search on google: swimming glossary lap
> length -- it's about 50/50 from the sample I looked at, some saying two
> lengths equals one lap, the others like me. With this realization, I tend to
> use "lengths" whenever quantifying how many times I go from one end to
> another while swimming laps. Your method of watching the clock, however, is
> completely sensible. I like to know how far I've gone, but don't in any way
> see that as superior.

You got sucked in!
--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:52:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28392
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 07:52:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0DFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:56:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13265436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:02:14 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f44.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.44]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GI2EN18609 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:02:14 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 11:02:08 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 18:02:08 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 18:02:08.0929 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[E703D110:01C22CF2]
Message-ID:  <F44k1vmgbYKKnYYYe0R00013292@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:02:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>In Texas, this costs $3. I didn't think it was worth it.

It's free in NY, but I'd pay $3 too. (Don't let Pataki hear me say that!)

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:54:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28410
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 07:54:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0E28@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:58:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13265563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:03:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GI3nN18874 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:03:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EE9CE7E5E; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:03:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716180345.EE9CE7E5E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:03:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F44k1vmgbYKKnYYYe0R00013292@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 16, 2002  2: 2: 8 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> >In Texas, this costs $3. I didn't think it was worth it.
>
> It's free in NY, but I'd pay $3 too. (Don't let Pataki hear me say that!)

I'd pay $3 if it blocked everything, but it's useless to me as it is.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:00:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28443
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:00:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0EB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:04:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13265932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:09:37 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6GI9bN19607 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          14:09:37 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6GI9am280170 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 14:09:37 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEAKFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:08:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716125111.YPNM6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70>

> > Are you a vegetarian or was it just something new and different to try?
> >
> > Sandra
>
> It was something new and different to try. I couldn't bear
> the thought of having more pizza, even though FRFF's pizza vendor
> makes great pizza.
>
> --Adam

I'm still amusesd by mock goat meat. How is it different from mock lamb or
mock rabbit. Did it taste like mock chicken?

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:01:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28451
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:01:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0ECA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:05:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13266020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:10:44 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIAhN19762 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:10:43 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id LAA10774 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          11:10:43 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207161106570.83593-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:10:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716174447.D316B8239@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> Sharon Ziperovich said:
> > On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > > > She already showed me her breasts.  What more could I ask for?
> > >
> > > You know, if I told Betty the story, she wouldn't believe it.
> > >
> > That's okay.  Just tell me the story.  I promise to believe it.
>
> I'll leave it to Boo. I just remember it being a really satisfying
> experience.

I sent that before I got to the more recent postings. I think he did
describe it. In a car, in front of a restaurant?  But the really
interesting thing to know would be how the whole topic came up.  The
bit of conversation just before "Would you like to see my breasts?" "Yes,
please." would be the most fun part.

  Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:04:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28477
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:04:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0F1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:08:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13266251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:14:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIEJN20359 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:14:19 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5048A7C6C; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 11:14:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716181415.5048A7C6C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:14:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207161106570.83593-100000@idiom.com> from Sharon
              Ziperovich at "Jul 16, 2002 11:10:43 am"

Sharon Ziperovich said:
> But the really
> interesting thing to know would be how the whole topic came up.

I moved something in the car that prompted me to ask.

> The bit of conversation just before "Would you like to see my
> breasts?" "Yes, please." would be the most fun part.

Yes. He sort of blinked once and quickly said "Yes", but his
expression didn't change.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:10:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28507
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:10:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0F73@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:13:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13266499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:19:27 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIJRN21069 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:19:27 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc69 ([204.127.198.52]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020716181921.UCWP24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:19:21 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc69; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:19:21 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020716181921.UCWP24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:19:21 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I have asked my gay friends if the married bi men
they've >seen are open with such activities with their
spouses. In >the cases mentioned to me, it was definitely
involving >deception.

Women aren't much better. I know quite a few who were
married, carrying on relationships with another woman and
not telling their husband, in most cases for years.

Eventually they all did leave their husbands but it
wasn't until after a lot of pain and damage was done to
both relationships.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:11:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28517
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:11:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012E178@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:20:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13266587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:20:28 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIKSN21246 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:20:28 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO00007F;
          16 Jul 02 14:20:04 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 16 Jul 02
          14:19:46 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG00007E; 16 Jul 02 14:19:35 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <4.2.2.20020715200048.00a81570@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
            "Jul 15, 2002  8: 1:28 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D342B77.5722.C9A49A44@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:19:35 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716030210.7CD6D809F@yellow.rahul.net>

On Monday, July 15, 2002 at 20:02, Karen Kay wrote:

> > > > She already showed me her breasts.  What more could I ask for?
> > >
> > >You know, if I told Betty the story, she wouldn't believe it.
> >
> > Janet took him into the closet to show hers.  He came out smiling.
>
> I showed him mine in the front seat of my car.

Um, is there something I've forgotten or should know about your
breasts that make them particularly show-worthy? Janet's are, of
course, famous for their tittoo.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:11:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28521
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:11:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0FA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:15:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13266639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:21:04 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIL4N21351 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:21:04 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc57 ([204.127.198.46]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020716182059.SIEO29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:20:59 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc57; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:20:58 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020716182059.SIEO29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:20:58 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Interesting that both of you discovered you were gay. I
>haven't heard of that before.
>Sandra

French Twist. It's a good movie.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:11:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28525
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:11:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC0FA6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:15:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13266648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:21:06 -0400
Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIL6N21365 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:21:06 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.52.36c13d4 (22682) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 14:20:21 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-d07.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.71]) by
          air-in04.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ43-0716142021;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:20:21 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <40C53C86.2521062F.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:22:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: jh
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU> wrote:

>John, if you see Brad tomorrow be sure to wish him a Happy Birthday from
>us. He's not talking to us.
>
>Betty
>
Damn, for the last ten years (since I've known him), I thought his BD was the 17th.  He's never disabused me of it.  Guess I'll track down Ingram here in the MedCenter and give him a call.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:17:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28552
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:17:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012E202@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:26:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13266999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:26:24 -0400
Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIQNN22469 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:26:23 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b7.e3b56d (22683) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 14:26:05 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-d08.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.72]) by
          air-in04.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ44-0716142605;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:26:05 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <02436346.283192B8.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:22:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Literary Q of the Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:

oops, deleted the other message.  Netscape changed their configuration overnight.  To be honest the only reason(s) I know LS wrote EV are:

1. I used to be the graduate admin coordinator in the English Department (something rubbed off on me).

2. It's sitting on the shelves in the Library at the Farm (which is quite extensive) and everytime I'm looking for something I haven't read I go, "Naw, another time."

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:18:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28565
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:18:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1051@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:22:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13267115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:28:01 -0400
Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com (imo-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.165]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIS1N22756 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:28:01 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b4.e3889b (22682) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 14:27:40 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-d12.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.76]) by
          air-in04.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ43-0716142740;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:27:40 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <5E442797.2D08626C.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:28:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Is this overreaction or what?!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:

 The letter was signed by Rep. Billy Tauzin (R-LA), chairman
>of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, and five members of his
>panel. "
>
why am I not surprised?

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:20:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28579
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:20:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1078@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:24:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13267234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:29:38 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GITcN23084 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:29:38 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6GITb7Y020415 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          14:29:37 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000b01c22cf6$bdcc3950$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:29:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D342B77.5722.C9A49A44@localhost>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Harminc
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 2:20 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Er names
>
>
> On Monday, July 15, 2002 at 20:02, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > > > > She already showed me her breasts.  What more could I ask for?
> > > >
> > > >You know, if I told Betty the story, she wouldn't believe it.
> > >
> > > Janet took him into the closet to show hers.  He came out smiling.
> >
> > I showed him mine in the front seat of my car.
>
> Um, is there something I've forgotten or should know about your
> breasts that make them particularly show-worthy? Janet's are, of
> course, famous for their tittoo.
>
> Tony H.
>

If size is an attraction.

alec

ps I always like more then a mouthful.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:22:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28586
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:22:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC10B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:26:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13267478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:32:15 -0400
Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIWFN23832 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:32:15 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.56.36dd670 (16228) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 14:32:04 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-d05.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.69]) by
          air-in02.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILININ24-0716143204;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:32:04 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <472A1ECD.3D5EB533.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:33:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET> wrote:

>PBS had a show last night, and now I want to go to Namibia
>for vacation :).
>
I'll go with you.  I've never been south of Lusaka, Zambia -- unless the Seychelles are, don't have a map right here (but I am in the library, I'll go check in a minute or two).


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:24:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28602
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:24:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC10E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:28:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13267610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:34:14 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIYEN24131 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:34:14 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZC000OVU91N9@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:34:13 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020716011241.3BE1C7F33@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D3466C9.3070309@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:32:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>This type of dilemma would describe my great-grandfather
>>perfectly.
>>
>
> Cool! I want to meet him, too.:)
>


He died at age 97, leaving behind a wife in her mid-40s.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:27:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28608
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:27:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1142@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:31:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13267881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:36:37 -0400
Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIaaN24714 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:36:36 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1ae.e36457 (22680) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 14:36:33 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-d07.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.71]) by
          air-in04.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ41-0716143633;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:36:33 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <65F922AB.6DA4CEB9.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:38:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET> wrote:


>
>It just looks great.  Neat little towns, all that desert,
>penguins on the beach.  jh will no doubt tell me I'm insane,
>but it looked like a great place to visit to me.  I'm not
>sure I would want to do the African interior, but I could
>really go for a place with beaches.
>
>Why on earth would you think  that?  I'm always ready to go to Africa.  I think I'd avoid Sierra Leone, Liberia, and the ilk, but I'd even go back to Sudan -- what the hey, I already speak the language.  Namibia offers the advantage of English (it was German SW Africa, BTW), mentioned in Gravity's Rainbow, too.

jbh
>
>
>--
>Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
>http://www.etext.org/~rita
>
>
>


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:32:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28642
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:32:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC11B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:36:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13268255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:41:38 -0400
Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIfbN25617 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:41:37 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b7.e3e385 (16226) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 14:41:22 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-d12.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.76]) by
          air-in02.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILININ22-0716144121;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:41:21 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <449A1896.433918FF.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:41:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:


>jbh

well, I really just started using my middle initial to distinguish from joe harwood.
>
>Okay. I'm not a desert fan, but I am a fan of the beach.
>
Ah, but I love both (all that sand)and this may be one of the few places inthe world you get both.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:38:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28712
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:37:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC123D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:41:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13268561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:47:21 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIlLN26530 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:47:21 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZC00EG1UUU65@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:47:18 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207152018540.26501-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D3469D9.901@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:45:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: no more sonc
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

OK, everyone I'm taking a poll:  How many of you want me to
discuss my financial portfolio in extruciating detail.  Be
honest, now.  I know you want to hear all about it.


Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> I'm out - the volatility, lack of a dividend, and no. of outstanding
> options (what if options are expensed?) persuaded me to sell this morning.
>
> If the price drops enough, I may buy more shares, perhaps doing again
> what I did before - I bought 30 shares and held them through two splits,
> ending up with 72.5 (after I bought 5 additional ones).
>
> Boo-hoo! I miss being a SONC shareholder. But I will enjoy receiving the
> fat check that ML will send me. My profit was something like 60-70% (I'll
> calculate it later this week to the penny), and I held the original shares
> only about 18 months.
>
> But with luck, I will acquire more shares and make more money on the co. I
> still think it is a good company = but certain immediate profits looked
> best today. So don't boycott SONC, please!
>
> (Because I sold another stock at a loss this year, I will have no tax
> consequences on this sale.)
>
> Bethany
>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:40:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28721
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:40:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012E45D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:50:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13268672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:50:03 -0400
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIo3N26918 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:50:03 -0400
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu
          (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id
          <0.03EC126F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:44:27 -0400
Message-ID:  <200207161850.g6GIo3N26918@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:50:03 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne <harwell@PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:42:43 -0400, alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
wrote:

>How about Land's End? They have petites, I think. Plain tailored stuff.

Don't you just love that use of the word "petite?" Is anyone fooled into
thinking that these clothes are really for petite women? They're for short
women who wear larger sizes, that's all. Men might shop in a Big 'N' Tall
shop, but women wouldn't shop at a Short 'N' Fat store.

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:41:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28734
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:41:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012E467@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:50:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13268682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:50:36 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIoaN26941 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:50:36 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6GIoZ7Y060367 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          14:50:36 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000f01c22cf9$abee8690$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:50:35 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: no more sonc
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3469D9.901@swbell.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rita Chapman
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 2:46 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: no more sonc
>
>
> OK, everyone I'm taking a poll:  How many of you want me to
> discuss my financial portfolio in extruciating detail.  Be
> honest, now.  I know you want to hear all about it.
>
>
> Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>
> > I'm out - the volatility, lack of a dividend, and no. of outstanding
> > options (what if options are expensed?) persuaded me to
> sell this morning.

I am so used her boring journals, I don't even comment anymore. She does
not understand us (words-l).


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:41:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28744
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:41:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012E479@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:51:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13268717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:51:21 -0400
Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com (imo-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.165]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIpLN27027 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:51:21 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.5c.36ca5d3 (16215) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 14:51:11 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-d12.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.76]) by
          air-in01.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ13-0716145111;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:51:11 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <2797A031.1DE517FE.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:51:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU> wrote:

Ho.....On Monday our new telemarketing list went into effect.  On Sunday afternoon while Phaedra was taking a nap and I was reading in the library the phone rang.  I answered it.  I just knew it was a telemarketer, particuarly when he asked if I was Mr. Spradlin.  I allowed as how she wasn't there.  He said he would call back later in the week.  I pointed out that she was a judge.  He thanked me for that important information and hung up.

I love it when they call on the office line.

Incidentally, I heard on the news that they can still call on cellphones. I will be really pissed if somebody take up my gd airtime that I pay for with that garbage.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:42:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28748
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:42:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC128C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:45:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13268740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:51:30 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIpUN27052 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:51:30 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZC00EVCV1T65@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:51:30 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020715184128.024345d0@mail.istori.com>
Message-ID:  <3D346AD5.1030503@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:49:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Kaminski wrote:

> Rita Chapman writes,
>
>> PBS had a show last night, and now I want to go to Namibia
>> for vacation :).
>
>
> Johanne spent a summer there back in the '80s, and loved it.
>


Really?  That's great.  I can't get any of the usual web
sites to tell me how much airfare to the country would be.
But I'm going to save up.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:43:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28753
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:43:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC12AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:47:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13268809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:53:12 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f208.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.208]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIrCN27206 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:53:12 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 11:53:06 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:53:06 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 18:53:06.0915 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[05B77330:01C22CFA]
Message-ID:  <F208YDqSkcJse1fTvOS000166d6@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:53:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: no more sonc
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>OK, everyone I'm taking a poll:  How many of you want me to
>discuss my financial portfolio in extruciating detail.

Not me--

-a

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:43:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28757
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:43:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC12AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:47:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13268813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:53:17 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIrGN27212 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:53:16 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZC0057DV4S3E@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:53:16 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020716153108.F12E97D43@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D346B40.5060907@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:51:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Anne Toal said:
>
>>>I gave up on LB a long time ago. Their quality was
>>>seriously lacking and their sizing was weird.
>>>
>>Likewise, I can't make sense of the Lane Bryant clothes. And besides, they
>>make one look like the quintissential fat old lady. The Dillards here has
>>half of the second floor dedicated to larger sizes now, which I assume
>>reflects a national trend to sell to the larger woman. The WSJ has written
>>about this several times in the past two years. I typically find stuff I
>>like in the Elisabeth (Liz Claiborne's line) and the Tommy Hilfiger sections
>>of the store, but almost all the major retail designers offer clothes in big
>>sizes.
>>
>
> The problem I have is that they don't all offer women's petite
> clothes. The big sizes often assume an overall largeness of body that
> I don't possess. I know that Nordstrom's does, and can't wait till
> they finish building ours.


Kohl's has a large petite section.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:46:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28778
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:46:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012E4D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:55:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13268933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:55:40 -0400
Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIteN27425 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:55:40 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.13a.2c965fa (16225) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 14:55:38 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-d11.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.75]) by
          air-in02.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILININ21-0716145537;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:55:37 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <146DE1CE.2757A2A0.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:53:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

>
>It's free in NY, but I'd pay $3 too. (Don't let Pataki hear me say that!)
>

>
It's free here, too.  And ditto, though it's Patton in our case.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:47:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28789
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:47:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012E4FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:57:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13269031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:57:12 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIvCN27627 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:57:12 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZC00E4ZVBB61@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:57:12 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020714205302.C6309@pobox.com>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIELOFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <20020714223453.A9749@pobox.com> <3D3323FD.9020806@swbell.net>
            <20020715175037.A97382@pobox.com>
Message-ID:  <3D346C2B.5030507@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:55:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Now playing ... a dead bird!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 02:35:25PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>>>>>>>Oh my ASS!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.etext.org/~rita/just4u
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>*sigh*  Now everyone will know.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Tush...what's up with  you and your ass? It's become a focal point.
>>>>
>>>As long as you don't hate me for it ...
>>>
>>>This is not new to me you know, I am well-known to have one of the
>>>most overwhelmingly dynamic ASSes in the city. I get anonymous calls
>>>about it all the time, all of them complimentary.
>>>
>>><http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=kenji-90E5AA.08162901052002%40virt-reader.news.rcn.net>
>>>
>>       GAY[tm].
>>
>
> You are SO jealous ... I never said you didn't yourself have
> a DynamicASS[tm]. I am sure you do ...


        Yeah, like you know from asses.





--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:49:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28793
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:49:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1310@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:53:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13269065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:58:48 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIwmN27720 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:58:48 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27853 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:58:47 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 16 Jul 02
          14:58:48 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 16 Jul 02 14:58:36 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D343494.23217.5F078E@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:58:29 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D346B40.5060907@swbell.net>

Is that like jumbo shrimp?

BrP



>
>
> Kohl's has a large petite section.
>
>
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita
>
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:50:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28799
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:50:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1329@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:54:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13269147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:59:43 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GIxgN27850 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:59:43 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27619 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:57:47 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 16 Jul 02
          14:57:47 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 16 Jul 02 14:57:35 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D343459.26571.5E1E43@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:57:30 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: no more sonc
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3469D9.901@swbell.net>

Go ahead. I know where my delete key is if I don't feel like reading
it.

BrP

> OK, everyone I'm taking a poll:  How many of you want me to
> discuss my financial portfolio in extruciating detail.  Be
> honest, now.  I know you want to hear all about it.

> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita
>
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:53:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28817
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:53:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1377@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:57:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13269386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:03:19 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJ3JN28364 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:03:19 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZC0002CVLIM0@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:03:18 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020716011509.E06CB7F9D@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D346D9A.50605@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:01:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>I picked up _Soul Mountain_ at the library the other day
>>just because the jacket said the book had won the Nobel
>>Prize (hey, worth a shot with that kind of cred).  It's a
>>Chinese road novel!  It blends perfectly with my summer
>>reading regimen.  I am so pleased.  Plus, the novel is
>>good.  Reminds me quite a bit more of _Blue Highways_ than
>>_On the Road_.
>>
>
> Now I want to read it.
>
> How did you like OTR?


Oh, I loved it.  It was exhausting to read, though.  I had
to put it down after every few chapters.  When I was in
school in Lowell (birthplace of Jack Kerouac), we used to
take off on road trips all the time -- mostly to Vermont or
Canada or New York City.  I'm amused to see how closely we
followed OTR without having a clue that's what we were doing.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:54:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28821
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:54:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1390@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:57:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13269428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:03:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJ3WN28396 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:03:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8E1A3820C; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:03:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716190331.8E1A3820C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:03:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <200207161850.g6GIo3N26918@listserv.cc.uga.edu> from Anne at "Jul
              16, 2002  2:50: 3 pm"

Anne said:
> Don't you just love that use of the word "petite?" Is anyone fooled into
> thinking that these clothes are really for petite women? They're for short
> women who wear larger sizes, that's all.

Not just short--smaller-boned.

> Men might shop in a Big 'N' Tall
> shop, but women wouldn't shop at a Short 'N' Fat store.

Short 'N' Squat Store.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:55:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28859
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:55:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC13B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:59:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13269527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:04:52 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJ4qN28549 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:04:52 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZC0002HVO4NB@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:04:52 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <449A1896.433918FF.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Message-ID:  <3D346DF8.3000606@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:03:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

jbh wrote:

> Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:
>
>
>
>>jbh
>>
>
> well, I really just started using my middle initial to distinguish from joe harwood.
>
>>Okay. I'm not a desert fan, but I am a fan of the beach.
>>
>>
> Ah, but I love both (all that sand)and this may be one of the few places inthe world you get both.


So, is it a reasonable place to want to visit?



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:56:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28865
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 08:56:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC13D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:00:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13269642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:06:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJ6CN28766 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:06:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7A6BD7C30; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:06:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716190605.7A6BD7C30@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:06:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D346B40.5060907@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 16,
              2002  1:51:44 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Kohl's has a large petite section.

Women's petites?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:01:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28892
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:01:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012E63E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:11:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13269811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:11:09 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJB9N29157 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:11:09 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust188.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.190]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003972592@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:11:09 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207152018540.26501-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D3469D9.901@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34702D.A28F364C@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:12:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: no more sonc
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> OK, everyone I'm taking a poll:  How many of you want me to
> discuss my financial portfolio in extruciating detail.  Be
> honest, now.  I know you want to hear all about it.
>
You show me yours, and I'll show you mine.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:03:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28915
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:03:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1431@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:07:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13269888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:12:54 -0400
Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJCsN29324 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:12:54 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b3.e39f06 (16213) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 15:12:33 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-d06.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.70]) by
          air-in01.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ11-0716151233;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:12:33 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <409E8B3C.45B09A76.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:14:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET> wrote:


>
>So, is it a reasonable place to want to visit?

>From everything I know, have seen on PBS, etc.  (we'll skip the Gravity's Rainbow conntection), I would say definitely yes.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:05:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28926
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:05:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1459@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:09:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13270006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:14:48 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJElN29522 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:14:47 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6GJEl7Y013655 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          15:14:47 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001001c22cfd$0d321810$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:14:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D346AD5.1030503@swbell.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rita Chapman
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 2:50 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: namibia
>
>
> Peter Kaminski wrote:
>
> > Rita Chapman writes,
> >
> >> PBS had a show last night, and now I want to go to Namibia
> >> for vacation :).
> >
> >
> > Johanne spent a summer there back in the '80s, and loved it.
> >
>
>
> Really?  That's great.  I can't get any of the usual web
> sites to tell me how much airfare to the country would be.
> But I'm going to save up.
>
>

Very expensive on Expedia.

$2,719.84     Choose and continue
10:29 AM Depart St. Louis (STL)
Arrive Windhoek (WDH) 8:10 PM +1 day  Tue 6-Aug
27hr 41mn    American Airlines 3140
  Delta 7004 / 7057
Connect in New York (JFK), Johannesburg (JNB)



------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------

2:00 PM Depart Windhoek (ERS)
Arrive St. Louis (STL) 12:17 PM +1 day  Wed 28-Aug
28hr 17mn    South African Airways 8715
  Delta 7007 / 206
Connect in Cape Town (CPT), Atlanta (ATL)
Total stops: 3




Above is just playing around. I am sure you could do it much cheaper.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:07:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28932
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:07:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012E6C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:16:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13270072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:16:52 -0400
Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJGpN29696 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:16:51 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.b1.36eb089 (16226) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 15:16:42 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-d01.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.65]) by
          air-in02.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILININ22-0716151642;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:16:42 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <14527377.4C537D95.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:16:42 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:
>

>> Steinbeck, I believe.
>
>Clyde, shouldn't that be: "Who is Steinbeck?

Alex Trebek
>


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:08:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28941
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:08:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC14AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:12:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13270110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:18:04 -0400
Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJI3N29828 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:18:03 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b5.e43664 (16225) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 15:17:53 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-d03.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.67]) by
          air-in02.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILININ21-0716151753;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:17:53 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <64ADF24E.1771A920.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:15:12 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Goat's Head Soup
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM> wrote:


>Must be something about tripe in the morning...isn't it also a key
>ingredient of menudo? And isn't that a popular meal for a hangover?
>
>Sandra
>
This is true, hadn't thought of that.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:10:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28949
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:10:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC14E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:14:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13270229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:19:44 -0400
Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJJiN30056 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:19:44 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.c7.36835d1 (16237) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 15:19:42 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-d07.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.71]) by
          air-in03.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ31-0716151941;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:19:41 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <26E450D7.054972AC.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:21:35 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Goat's Head Soup
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU> wrote:


>    You don't have to be hungover to enjoy menudo.  In fact, its a treat.  In
>the GMA restaurants advertise the days they have it on the menu.  (Usually
>weekends.  Hmmm...)
>
hmmm, indeed, good buddy.  It's also a key ingredient in pepper pot soup, a Philadelphia treat.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:12:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28965
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:12:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1513@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:16:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13269872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:22:02 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJC2N29287 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:12:02 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBA7611C for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:12:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6GJC2w12608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:12:02
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020714203846.10A1E8574@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020714223003.A16784@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020714203846.10A1E8574@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020715214601.A19574@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020716095114.00baa860@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020716112127.A21131@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716141202.A12031@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:12:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716112127.A21131@yoccoz.multinix.com>; from
              stevie@MULTINIX.COM on Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 11:21:27AM +0200

On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 11:21:27AM +0200, steph wrote:
> Yeah, my personal experience of watching Pat suffer with getting
> stuff up and running, and then discovering things like now, no
> matter what I do my mail is in color because all my mutt defaults
> have changed, and other settings being changed to /bin/emacs when
> they were /bin/vi and not functioning at all, because of course
> who would install a system without emacs, etc., leads me to
> believe that RH is beginning to understand why M$ is the way it
> is.

I don't understand. As I see it--or saw it when I wrestled
with stupid RH innovations before giving up on it--RH had
decided from the start that they had to be like MS, if only
with the RH flavor of incompetence, and that's why "auto-
installs" and other great conveniences of computing life
changed things under you.

In my next life I am going to write tools to do mutt config-
uration etc in a friendly way ... The situation is atrocious,
because, of course, where's the glamor in writing a config
tool?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:15:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28981
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:15:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012E78F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:24:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13270020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:24:58 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJEwN29546 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:14:58 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D3565AC for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:14:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6GJEvQ12670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:14:57
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020716090218.03307c98@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020716082324.2B6227DB4@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716141457.B12031@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:14:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716082324.2B6227DB4@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 01:23:23AM -0700

On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 01:23:23AM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> Mem, this is weird. I didn't realize Maori and Hawaiian were so close.
> The Maori dictionary I looked at lists 'atamai' for what would be
> 'akamai' in Hawaiian (quick mind).

Are these "Austric" languages? Because words from that layer
turn up in all sorts of unlikely languages, and survive.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:18:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28997
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:18:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC15A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:22:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13270698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:27:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJRoN30858 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:27:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F00AC80E0; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 12:27:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716192749.F00AC80E0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:27:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716141457.B12031@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Jul 16,
              2002  2:14:57 pm"

Tushar Samant said:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 01:23:23AM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> > Mem, this is weird. I didn't realize Maori and Hawaiian were so close.
> > The Maori dictionary I looked at lists 'atamai' for what would be
> > 'akamai' in Hawaiian (quick mind).
>
> Are these "Austric" languages? Because words from that layer
> turn up in all sorts of unlikely languages, and survive.

I've never heard the term 'Austric' before, but saying it out loud
made me want to vomit.

Mem addressed the issue of akamai/atamai in a later post. (And of
course this would be atama ii in Japanese. Espen will suspect
something is a pidgin.:) )

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:22:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29018
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:22:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC15F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:25:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13270915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:31:28 -0400
Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.243]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6GJVSN31344 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          15:31:28 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0081.dialsprint.net ([63.190.0.81]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17UY2f-0003O8-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 15:31:26 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716152158.936137FEB@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D344C9A.DEDD2B10@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D347496.EDABF8BA@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:31:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:
>
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > 99.9% of my telemarketing calls are from a) charities or b) companies
> >    with which I have a relationship.
>
> Here it is vinyl siding, screens/storm windows, septic system treatment,
> mostly.
>
> alyce

I get AT&T, carpet cleaning, mortgage refinance, and charities...
--
Sylvia Edwards
Litopia    http://www.edwardsly.com
Sylvie's Place    http://www.geocities.com/s.words/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:22:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29022
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:22:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC15FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:26:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13270925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:31:51 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJVpN31362 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:31:51 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc55 ([204.127.198.44]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020716192956.VTXB29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:29:56 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc55; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:29:55 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020716192956.VTXB29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:29:55 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: back from Ottawa, news from Ontario
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>WHAT? Why, Lynn Sherr (or whatever her name was) did a
big >story on 20/20 a few years ago about how
Northampton, MA, >was the Lesbian capital of the USA.
>--Adam
>adamh1@attbi.com

I'm sure the long time residents don't mind other towns
having the distinction.

Apparently they didn't appreciate the distinction. They
also don't like being called NoHo.

Tracey Kidder wrote a book called Hometown. It's about a
fictional cop but the settings and town histroy are
accurate. He alludes to the Lyn Scherr interview while he
chronicles the  changes the town has gone through over
the past 30 or so years.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:25:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29036
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:25:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1634@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:29:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13271050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:35:11 -0400
Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJZBN31779 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:35:11 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.58.36d1428 (16239) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 15:35:02 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m04.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.132]) by
          air-in03.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ33-0716153502;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:35:02 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <054981A5.52A9DB2B.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:35:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Kohl's has a large petite section.
>
>
>
Potential oxymoron alert :)

jbh

>


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:28:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29044
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:28:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC165D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:32:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13271155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:37:45 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJbiN32018 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:37:44 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZC000IUX6WLV@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:37:44 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D343494.23217.5F078E@localhost>
Message-ID:  <3D3475AB.40505@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:36:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Yes, exactly.  But different.


Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

> Is that like jumbo shrimp?
>
> BrP
>
>
>
>
>>
>>Kohl's has a large petite section.
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>>rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
>>http://www.etext.org/~rita
>>
>>
>>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:32:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29069
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:32:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC16AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:35:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13271405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:41:28 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJfSN32503 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:41:28 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020716194122.FYH26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:41:22 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020716152158.936137FEB@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D344C9A.DEDD2B10@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716123542.027170f0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:37:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D347496.EDABF8BA@pop.mindspring.com>

Sylvia Edwards writes,

>I get AT&T, carpet cleaning, mortgage refinance, and charities...

Auto windshield repair (multiple times!), newspaper subscriptions...

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:41:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29102
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:41:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC178B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:45:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13272104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:50:44 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f236.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.236]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJoiN01562 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:50:44 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 12:50:38 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 19:50:38 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 19:50:38.0707 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[0F251C30:01C22D02]
Message-ID:  <F236K9GcvTHw5sHwNtk00013052@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:50:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Goat's Head Soup
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
>hmmm, indeed, good buddy.  It's also a key ingredient in pepper pot soup, a
>Philadelphia treat.

You know, I've never had that, no idea why. I suppose it could be the
tripe, which I've also never had.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:45:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29132
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:45:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC17ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:49:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13271735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:54:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJieN00754 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:44:40 -0400
Received: from foxtrot.rahul.net (foxtrot [192.160.13.6]) by yellow.rahul.net
          (Postfix) with ESMTP id C148A7E06; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:44:36 -0700
          (PDT)
Received: by foxtrot.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 1310) id 434411D92; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 12:44:35 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by foxtrot.rahul.net (Postfix)
          with SMTP id 1C6263BEC0; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:44:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bookrat@foxtrot
X-Moxy-Fruvous: Damn that rising entropy!
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.SUN.3.96.1020716123323.8746A-100000@foxtrot>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:44:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@RAHUL.NET>
Comments: cc: sentmail@bookrat.com
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D341A4E.D47304A8@maynor.net>

I normally don't do personal email from work, but I just had to get this
off my chest and my cow orkers are all out at lunch.

What would you think of someone who thinks that, because a website has a
lot of frequently-changing content (i.e., is dynamic), it should therefore
be written in DHTML (Dynamic HTML)?  Furthermore, suppose that this person
was seriously arguing that it would be easier to maintain a very large
website using mostly static DHTML pages instead of using a database-driven
solution?

Now, suppose that this person were the IT director at a very large
metropolitan public library?  And suppose that a year from now this person
might be writing half of one's job evalution?

Yours in PHB Land,

Ken Miller
Technoannalist
Babbage Engine Works

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:45:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29141
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:45:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC17F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:49:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13272391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:55:16 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJtGN02038 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:55:16 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6GK0JD23228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:00:19
          +0200
References: <20020714203846.10A1E8574@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020714223003.A16784@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020714203846.10A1E8574@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020715214601.A19574@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020716095114.00baa860@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020716112127.A21131@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020716141202.A12031@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716220019.A23195@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:00:19 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716141202.A12031@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on
              Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 02:12:02PM -0500

= > who would install a system without emacs, etc., leads me to
= > believe that RH is beginning to understand why M$ is the way it
= > is.
=
= I don't understand. As I see it--or saw it when I wrestled
= with stupid RH innovations before giving up on it--RH had
= decided from the start that they had to be like MS, if only
= with the RH flavor of incompetence, and that's why "auto-
= installs" and other great conveniences of computing life
= changed things under you.
=

I'm just slow to catch on.  Maybe it's time for Slackware again.

= In my next life I am going to write tools to do mutt config-
= uration etc in a friendly way ... The situation is atrocious,
= because, of course, where's the glamor in writing a config
= tool?

Don't underestimate what others will find glamourous.

How are you going to cope with the fact that developers are wont
to change what all can be configured each round?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:47:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29152
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:47:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1821@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:51:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13272530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:57:15 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f21.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJvFN02317 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:57:15 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 12:57:09 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 19:57:09 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 19:57:09.0668 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[F82D0640:01C22D02]
Message-ID:  <F21bklhaDtdUW54xO6o000133a7@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:57:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
>--Adam, who still hasn't decided exactly how he's attending that

FTR, I'm not. We've made plans with friends in the City for Saturday, and
we're seeing Beth Orton in Central Park on Sunday. This is when those
in-laws who desert their apartment every weekend really come in handy.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:48:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29158
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:48:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1837@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:52:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13272578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 15:58:08 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJw8N02408 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:58:08 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6GK3Bw23243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:03:11
          +0200
References: <3D341A4E.D47304A8@maynor.net>
            <Pine.SUN.3.96.1020716123323.8746A-100000@foxtrot>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716220311.B23195@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:03:11 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: your mail
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SUN.3.96.1020716123323.8746A-100000@foxtrot>; from
              bookrat@RAHUL.NET on Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 12:44:34PM -0700

=
=
= Yours in PHB Land,
=

You just need to present him with the better solution in a way
that makes him think it was his idea.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:51:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29173
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:51:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC18A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:54:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13272083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:00:35 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GJoYN01532 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:50:35 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38126A86 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:50:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6GJoY513680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:50:34
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020714202656.0216b7d0@mail.istori.com>
            <20020712160545.C93253@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714202656.0216b7d0@mail.istori.com>
            <20020715191246.C97382@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020715181038.025c00f0@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716145034.C12031@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:50:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020715181038.025c00f0@mail.istori.com>; from
              kaminski@ISTORI.COM on Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 06:39:30PM -0700

On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 06:39:30PM -0700, Peter Kaminski wrote:
> Tushar Samant writes,
>
> >if it is in fact a low-prestige word, it's pretty damn
> >ridiculous to like it that way--which of the "hoi polloi"
> >are going to like a low-prestige word to describe their
> >work?
>
> You moved from "lower class" to "low-prestige" pretty quickly.

I gave "lower class" as an example of a low-prestige language.
Look at lower class people around you. They will use low-prestige
words freely, except on formal occasions, when they will take
care to use "correct" words. Either that or they reject formal
occasions outright so they can be "true to their language". Other
examples of low prestige are provided by regional dialects. The
same pattern holds.

In special cases you can turn your low-prestige dialect into
respectable--for instance if BOBOs are flocking to your restaurant
to get their authenticity jollies. In all other cases you are
damned.

> >At any rate, it's pretty elitist:
>
> Read the very first writing on that page: "Any and all information can be
> deleted by anyone, including yourself. Yes, you!"

And? Let's put it this way: wikis have not "exploded" in any sense,
but are limited to a certain rare kind of person. For instance,
I am not one of them, since I find it unacceptable for someone to
delete what I wrote (doubtless because it was impolite or counter-
productive). Do you truly think that giving people graffiti-blasting
capabilities makes for an "egalitarian" wall?

> >I feel like adding a node called CalifornianWankers.
>
> "LeftCoastWankers" might be better, unless you mean "Californian" as a
> state of mind.  Ward lives in Portland, Oregon.

I see. Where did he grow up?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:51:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29177
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:51:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012EBA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:00:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13272867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:00:42 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f123.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GK0gN02903 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:00:42 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 13:00:37 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:00:36 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 20:00:37.0234 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[73E51520:01C22D03]
Message-ID:  <F1233oekEHIuHSuJKfM0000f92e@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:00:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: your mail
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>You just need to present him with the better solution in a way
>that makes him think it was his idea.

I hate it when people try to pull that stuff on me. It's always so
transparent.



_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:53:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29192
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:53:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC18F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:57:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13273083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:02:43 -0400
Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GK2hN03408 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:02:43 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.13a.2c9d672 (16239) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 16:02:38 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m20.webmail.aol.com [64.12.180.136]) by
          air-in03.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ33-0716160238;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:02:38 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <0E7F17B0.3F6C9FDA.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:03:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Telemarketing gets weirder
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM> wrote:


>Auto windshield repair

we get this one a lot, too.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:54:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29197
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:54:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012EBF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:03:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13273104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:03:21 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GK3LN03472 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:03:21 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C2DD08580; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 13:03:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716200317.C2DD08580@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:03:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: your mail
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SUN.3.96.1020716123323.8746A-100000@foxtrot> from Bookrat
              at "Jul 16, 2002 12:44:34 pm"

Bookrat said:
> What would you think of someone who thinks that, because a website has a
> lot of frequently-changing content (i.e., is dynamic), it should therefore
> be written in DHTML (Dynamic HTML)?  Furthermore, suppose that this person
> was seriously arguing that it would be easier to maintain a very large
> website using mostly static DHTML pages instead of using a database-driven
> solution?

Does this person really understand the two solutions? There may be
some misapprehension involved that you could gently clear up for
them. Otherwise, you have to follow Steph's recommendation.

> Now, suppose that this person were the IT director at a very large
> metropolitan public library?  And suppose that a year from now this person
> might be writing half of one's job evalution?

Danger, danger, Will Robinson! Run away! Run away!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:54:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29201
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:54:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC190A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:58:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13273144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:04:15 -0400
Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GK4FN03555 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:04:15 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b3.e3d7c2 (16213) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 16:04:04 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m23.webmail.aol.com [64.12.180.139]) by
          air-in01.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ11-0716160404;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:04:04 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <7F919435.20C7227B.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:59:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Goat's Head Soup
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

>>From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
>>hmmm, indeed, good buddy.  It's also a key ingredient in pepper pot soup, a
>>Philadelphia treat.
>
>You know, I've never had that, no idea why. I suppose it could be the
>tripe, which I've also never had.
>
>
>
>It' okay.  My dad, who grew up in that fair city, loves it.

jbh
>_________________________________________________________________
>MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
>http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
>


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:58:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29224
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:58:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1978@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:02:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13273454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:07:40 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f180.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.180]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GK7eN04112 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:07:40 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 13:07:34 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:07:34 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 20:07:34.0638 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[6CAFE0E0:01C22D04]
Message-ID:  <F180lcXMBPWz0HtSgXz00016738@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:07:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      WTG Norway!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://news.com.com/2100-1001-944151.html

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:58:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29228
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:58:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1980@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:02:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13273476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:08:04 -0400
Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GK84N04161 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:08:04 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b0.e4b038 (16227) for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 16:07:58 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m23.webmail.aol.com [64.12.180.139]) by
          air-in02.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILININ23-0716160758;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:07:58 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <514D573C.6ADBE9AD.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:02:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Seychelles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lusaka is, in fact, several degrees to the south of the Seychelles.  Which is one of the nicest places I've ever been.  Could have been 3 months of the hot season in Sudan, but I don't think so.

BTW: The Zambian government has just withdrawn Chiluba's immunity from prosecution.  NETSCAPE headline.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:59:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29235
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 09:59:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012EC90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:08:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13273545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:08:59 -0400
Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GK8xN04279 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:08:59 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.64.220f2fc2 (17232) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 16:08:43 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <64.220f2fc2.2a65d74b@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:08:43 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/16/2002 11:41:30 AM Central Daylight Time,
alybooks@VALSTAR.NET writes:

<<
How about Land's End? They have petites, I think. Plain tailored stuff.



>>

I wonder how their being taken over by Sears will affect them.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:00:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29256
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:00:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC19AE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:04:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13273625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:10:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GKAEN04502 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:10:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C94A385F4; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 13:10:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716201009.C94A385F4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:10:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <64.220f2fc2.2a65d74b@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Jul 16,
              2002  4: 8:43 pm"

Evelyn Duncan said:
> In a message dated 07/16/2002 11:41:30 AM Central Daylight Time,
> alybooks@VALSTAR.NET writes:
>
> <<
> How about Land's End? They have petites, I think. Plain tailored stuff.
>
>
>
> >>
>
> I wonder how their being taken over by Sears will affect them.

My guess is, badly.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:04:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29276
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:04:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1A61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:08:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13274287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:14:01 -0400
Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GKE1N05577 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:14:01 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b7.e454f3 (16216) for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 16:13:36 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m21.webmail.aol.com [64.12.180.137]) by
          air-in01.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ14-0716161336;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:13:36 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <54B5EC04.7CF87F9E.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:13:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      The Day so Far
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I went at 7am to help my friend Maggie in her garden out on Jack's Creek Pike, about 8 or 9 miles out of town, near DreamTime Farm and her farm, Champagne Run.

It's an interesting project for me, because it's almost all shade.  She's got a nice place, and has done a lot with it, but summer is a bad time, because she produces eventing shows for a living and is having a very large one -- 650 horses entered -- this weekend at the Kentucky Horse Park.  She has five of them during the summer.  So I help out a few days a month.  It's a vastly different thing than the mostly sun gardens we have at Phaedra's.

Anyway, I'm starting to yawn and need to go get some coffee.  Later.  I may go on home.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:05:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29280
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:05:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1A6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:09:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13274333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:14:36 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GKEaN05697 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:14:36 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZC001QYYWB1M@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:14:35 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F236K9GcvTHw5sHwNtk00013052@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D347E4F.1040702@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:13:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Goat's Head Soup
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

>> From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
>> hmmm, indeed, good buddy.  It's also a key ingredient in pepper pot
>> soup, a
>> Philadelphia treat.
>
>
> You know, I've never had that, no idea why. I suppose it could be the
> tripe, which I've also never had.
>


I feed raw tripe to the dogs sometimes.  The stuff *reeks*.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:10:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29299
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:10:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1AE0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:14:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13274699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:20:00 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GKK0N06686 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:20:00 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6GKJx7Y078019 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          16:20:00 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000301c22d06$290ce5c0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:19:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: dhtml
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SUN.3.96.1020716123323.8746A-100000@foxtrot>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bookrat
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:45 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject:
>
>
> I normally don't do personal email from work, but I just had
> to get this
> off my chest and my cow orkers are all out at lunch.
>
> What would you think of someone who thinks that, because a
> website has a
> lot of frequently-changing content (i.e., is dynamic), it
> should therefore
> be written in DHTML (Dynamic HTML)?  Furthermore, suppose
> that this person
> was seriously arguing that it would be easier to maintain a very large
> website using mostly static DHTML pages instead of using a
> database-driven
> solution?

Explain to him or her your opinion!


>
> Now, suppose that this person were the IT director at a very large
> metropolitan public library?  And suppose that a year from
> now this person
> might be writing half of one's job evalution?
>

Evals are over-rated.

alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:17:12 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29344
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:17:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012EE9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:26:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13275253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:26:31 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GKQUC08049 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:26:30 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id NAA94544 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          13:26:30 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207161325530.91485-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:26:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: no more sonc
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3469D9.901@swbell.net>

I do!  I sold my house, bought another, but kept a little stack of rainy
day money aside.  I'm trying to figure out what to do with it.

 Sharon

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:

> OK, everyone I'm taking a poll:  How many of you want me to
> discuss my financial portfolio in extruciating detail.  Be
> honest, now.  I know you want to hear all about it.
>
>
> Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>
> > I'm out - the volatility, lack of a dividend, and no. of outstanding
> > options (what if options are expensed?) persuaded me to sell this morning.
> >
> > If the price drops enough, I may buy more shares, perhaps doing again
> > what I did before - I bought 30 shares and held them through two splits,
> > ending up with 72.5 (after I bought 5 additional ones).
> >
> > Boo-hoo! I miss being a SONC shareholder. But I will enjoy receiving the
> > fat check that ML will send me. My profit was something like 60-70% (I'll
> > calculate it later this week to the penny), and I held the original shares
> > only about 18 months.
> >
> > But with luck, I will acquire more shares and make more money on the co. I
> > still think it is a good company = but certain immediate profits looked
> > best today. So don't boycott SONC, please!
> >
> > (Because I sold another stock at a loss this year, I will have no tax
> > consequences on this sale.)
> >
> > Bethany
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita
>
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:22:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29368
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:22:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012EF42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:32:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13275609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:32:07 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GKW6C08816 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:32:06 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020716200813.RLM24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:08:13 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716103507.026c4920@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:04:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: CD Q
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716154118.22EDF7FED@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen Kay writes,

>plays fine in my CD player, the CD drive in my computer won't
>recognize it, and it seems slightly warped. However, it doesn't look
>warped when I lift it up and look at it. Any ideas?

I'll presume this is "fair use" copying.

There could be two problems: the disc is damaged, or the disc is
copy-protected.  In either event, the ripper I use, ExactAudioCopy
<http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/> should be able to read the disc so that you
can burn a copy.  EAC is preferred over other rippers for either easy or
hard-to-read discs because it's careful to make sure that the data read is
correct.

EAC will read either individual tracks, which you can use to recompile a
CD; or a BIN/CUE (actually WAV/CUE) file pair image of the whole CD; or,
it's got a menu option to "Copy CD," which I haven't tried, but I presume
will read the whole CD into an image file and then write it back out to the
burner afterwards.

Other related utilities I've heard of but haven't tried include CDEx,
CloneCD, and Blindread/Blindwrite.  And if you were in Linux, you'd use
cdparanoia instead of EAC.

Also see:

EAC user documentation:

http://www.chrismyden.com/nuke/modules.php?op=modload&name=Elite_DAE/eac&file=index

http://www.ping.be/satcp/tutorials.htm

CD Utilities (readers, burners, copy-protect identification):

http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_utils.shtml

A list of CDs known to have at least some copies sold "corrupted" with
copy-protection that disallows/degrades fair-use playback on computer
equipment:

http://www.fatchucks.com/z3.cd.html

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:22:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29375
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:22:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1C23@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:26:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13275613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:32:07 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GKW7C08821 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:32:07 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6GKW6k14185
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:32:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <200207161850.g6GIo3N26918@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D348489.1B173678@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:39:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Anne wrote:
>
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:42:43 -0400, alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
> wrote:
>
> >How about Land's End? They have petites, I think. Plain tailored stuff.
>
> Don't you just love that use of the word "petite?" Is anyone fooled into
> thinking that these clothes are really for petite women? They're for short
> women who wear larger sizes, that's all. Men might shop in a Big 'N' Tall
> shop, but women wouldn't shop at a Short 'N' Fat store.

The petite sections I have seen are for petites. Short and skinny. They
go up to about a size 3 or something.

Short and fat is a problem for men and women, I think.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:23:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29379
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:23:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1C24@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:26:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13275619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:32:21 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GKWLC08832 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:32:21 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020716201801.BUFO26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:18:01 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D341A4E.D47304A8@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716130527.026c65c0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:14:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SUN.3.96.1020716123323.8746A-100000@foxtrot>

Bookrat writes,

>Now, suppose that this person were the IT director at a very large
>metropolitan public library?  And suppose that a year from now this person
>might be writing half of one's job evalution?

I think I'd try to find a way to rationalize playing along.  After all,
since HTML is a subset of DHTML, HTML pages are really DHTML pages, too, right?

And using mostly static (D)HTML pages is a great way to implement a very
large website.  Perhaps PHB can be content with that, without knowing the
nitty-gritty detail that the best way to generate a large number of static
pages is with a database-driven solution.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:25:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29390
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:25:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012EF81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:34:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13275775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:34:44 -0400
Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GKYhC09036 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:34:43 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.17f.b16eb34 (17232) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 16:34:36 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <17f.b16eb34.2a65dd5c@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:34:36 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/16/2002 3:10:21 PM Central Daylight Time,
karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:

<<
Evelyn Duncan said:
>
> I wonder how their being taken over by Sears will affect them.

My guess is, badly.
>>

I'm wondering where Sears will be in 5 years; we've lost a lot of
good associates due to managerial decisions, both local and
nationwide.


Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:26:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29399
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:26:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1C69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:30:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13275820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:35:50 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GKZoC09143 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:35:50 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc69 ([204.127.198.52]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020716203211.BJME25638.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:32:11 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc69; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:32:10 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020716203211.BJME25638.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:32:10 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> I wonder how their being taken over by Sears will affect
> them.

>My guess is, badly.
>Karen

I second that. Actually I was suprised Sears could afford
to buy Lands End given their bankrupcy situation.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:28:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29407
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:28:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1C89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:32:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13275888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:38:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GKc5C09411 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:38:06 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0A1F480B2; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 13:38:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716203802.0A1F480B2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:38:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: CD Q
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716103507.026c4920@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Jul 16, 2002  1: 4:39 pm"

Peter Kaminski said:
> Karen Kay writes,
> >plays fine in my CD player, the CD drive in my computer won't
> >recognize it, and it seems slightly warped. However, it doesn't look
> >warped when I lift it up and look at it. Any ideas?
>
> I'll presume this is "fair use" copying.

We discussed the copyright issues, yes. I'm making this CD till I can
buy a copy from the performer. That's not exactly fair use, but close
enough, I think.

> There could be two problems: the disc is damaged, or the disc is
> copy-protected.  In either event, the ripper I use, ExactAudioCopy
> <http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/> should be able to read the disc so that you
> can burn a copy.  EAC is preferred over other rippers for either easy or
> hard-to-read discs because it's careful to make sure that the data read is
> correct.

Aha! Thank you, this will be an improvement.

> A list of CDs known to have at least some copies sold "corrupted" with
> copy-protection that disallows/degrades fair-use playback on computer
> equipment:
>
> http://www.fatchucks.com/z3.cd.html

Like I said, I think the problem is with the physical CD, not
copy-protection. We'll see what happens with EAC.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:31:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29434
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:31:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012EF9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:40:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13275975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:40:27 -0400
Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GKeRC09650 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:40:27 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.64.220f2fc9 (17232) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 16:40:21 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <64.220f2fc9.2a65deb5@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:40:21 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/16/2002 3:36:08 PM Central Daylight Time,
alfieri@ATTBI.COM writes:

<<
I second that. Actually I was suprised Sears could afford
to buy Lands End given their bankrupcy situation.


>>

What bankruptcy situation?  Sears could afford to buy Lands End
because Sears has been selling a lot of credit-card-backed securities.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:38:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29491
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:38:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1D32@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:41:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13276293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:47:32 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GKlVC10440 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:47:32 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020716203408.CPEO26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:34:08 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716132855.026c1c50@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:30:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: your mail
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F1233oekEHIuHSuJKfM0000f92e@hotmail.com>

Anne Toal writes,

>I hate it when people try to pull that stuff on me. It's always so
>transparent.

That's because (or maybe why) you're not a PHB.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:38:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29497
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:38:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1D3E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:42:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13276329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:48:18 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GKmIC10508 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:48:18 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020716203008.BXBN24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:30:08 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716103659.026c34b0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:25:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716163039.0C6D17F26@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen Kay writes,

>  your favorite Japanese food, excluding noodles, sushi, sashimi, and
>  one-pot dishes? Do you like seaweed salad? What particular vegetable
>  things do you like?

Tsukemono, isobe-mochi, kabocha (wrong season, though), agedashi-dofu.

I like nori strips and dulse, but I don't like seaweed salad.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:43:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29514
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:43:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012F0B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:52:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13276619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:52:38 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GKqcC10976 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:52:38 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6GKqbk07424
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:52:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207152018540.26501-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D3469D9.901@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D348958.C8B335B2@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:00:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: no more sonc
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I'd rather you show us your breasts.

BB

Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> OK, everyone I'm taking a poll:  How many of you want me to
> discuss my financial portfolio in extruciating detail.  Be
> honest, now.  I know you want to hear all about it.
>
> Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>
> > I'm out - the volatility, lack of a dividend, and no. of outstanding
> > options (what if options are expensed?) persuaded me to sell this morning.
> >
> > If the price drops enough, I may buy more shares, perhaps doing again
> > what I did before - I bought 30 shares and held them through two splits,
> > ending up with 72.5 (after I bought 5 additional ones).
> >
> > Boo-hoo! I miss being a SONC shareholder. But I will enjoy receiving the
> > fat check that ML will send me. My profit was something like 60-70% (I'll
> > calculate it later this week to the penny), and I held the original shares
> > only about 18 months.
> >
> > But with luck, I will acquire more shares and make more money on the co. I
> > still think it is a good company = but certain immediate profits looked
> > best today. So don't boycott SONC, please!
> >
> > (Because I sold another stock at a loss this year, I will have no tax
> > consequences on this sale.)
> >
> > Bethany
> >
> >
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:45:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29525
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:45:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1DEA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:49:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13276860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:55:13 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GKtDC11487 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:55:13 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020716205507.ZEC331.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:55:07 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020715181038.025c00f0@mail.istori.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714202656.0216b7d0@mail.istori.com>
            <20020712160545.C93253@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020714202656.0216b7d0@mail.istori.com>
            <20020715191246.C97382@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020715181038.025c00f0@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716132712.02712920@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:49:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apropos K@r3n's recent post
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716145034.C12031@pobox.com>

Tushar Samant writes,

>Do you truly think that giving people graffiti-blasting
>capabilities makes for an "egalitarian" wall?

Even you should know that graffiti doesn't get blasted at wikis.

But yes, giving everyone read / write / delete permissions with no
attributions makes things "egalitarian."

>I see. Where did he grow up?

Sorry, don't know.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:47:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29532
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:47:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1E16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:50:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13276965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 16:56:27 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GKuRC11635 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:56:27 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc69 ([204.127.198.52]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020716205622.CEFW25638.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:56:22 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc69; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:56:21 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020716205622.CEFW25638.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:56:21 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

YES!!!! I love a good flame.

I can't always read all the messages. Three or four times
since my return to words-l I've considered unsubbing due
to volume. Especially on the weekends when I don't get
much of a chance to read email.

While considering whether or not I should bow out again I
remember the days when flaming was much more popular. The
list has become so mellow. That is until today (or
yesterday when this was orginally posted) when I read
this and was recharged by Natalie's tone.

lisa
who has 200+ more emails to read
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > >Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
>
> > > I don't get this at all.  Why do y'all care whether I watch the clock or
> > > count lengths or count laps when swimming???
>
> > I don't. At all.
>
> Well, then we're even.  I don't give a shit about your pilates drivel
> either.  At least my comment about my exercise didn't waste as much
> bandwidth as your constant postings on the subject do.  Nor have I felt
> the need (before now) to tell you that I would thank you from the bottom
> of my heart if you would refrain from boring me with your exercise
> postings.  Actually, I'd never really cared that much.  I just hit
> delete when I see the beginnings of your pilates junk.  Perhaps you
> could learn to do the same if I mention swimming?  Nevermind.  I'll just
> not mention it again.  We must stick to <important> topics on Words-L --
> i.e., Karen's interests.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:50:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29553
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:50:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC1EFC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:54:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13277569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:00:13 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GL0DC12332 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:00:13 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZD000F110CLW@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:00:12 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207152018540.26501-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D3469D9.901@swbell.net> <3D348958.C8B335B2@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D348900.10701@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:58:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: no more sonc
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

They're kinda boring since I took my nipple rings out.

Betty wrote:

> I'd rather you show us your breasts.
>
> BB
>
> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>>OK, everyone I'm taking a poll:  How many of you want me to
>>discuss my financial portfolio in extruciating detail.  Be
>>honest, now.  I know you want to hear all about it.
>>
>>Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm out - the volatility, lack of a dividend, and no. of outstanding
>>>options (what if options are expensed?) persuaded me to sell this morning.
>>>
>>>If the price drops enough, I may buy more shares, perhaps doing again
>>>what I did before - I bought 30 shares and held them through two splits,
>>>ending up with 72.5 (after I bought 5 additional ones).
>>>
>>>Boo-hoo! I miss being a SONC shareholder. But I will enjoy receiving the
>>>fat check that ML will send me. My profit was something like 60-70% (I'll
>>>calculate it later this week to the penny), and I held the original shares
>>>only about 18 months.
>>>
>>>But with luck, I will acquire more shares and make more money on the co. I
>>>still think it is a good company = but certain immediate profits looked
>>>best today. So don't boycott SONC, please!
>>>
>>>(Because I sold another stock at a loss this year, I will have no tax
>>>consequences on this sale.)
>>>
>>>Bethany
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>>rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
>>http://www.etext.org/~rita
>>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:57:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29578
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 10:57:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC20C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:01:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13278908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:06:58 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GL6wC13445 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:06:58 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6GL6vk24106
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:06:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716205622.CEFW25638.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D348CB4.BEB95161@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:14:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Yeah, I was cheering her on, too, but the results were people trying to
make nice with Natalie.  LOL

Betty

Lisa Alfieri wrote:
>
> YES!!!! I love a good flame.
>
> I can't always read all the messages. Three or four times
> since my return to words-l I've considered unsubbing due
> to volume. Especially on the weekends when I don't get
> much of a chance to read email.
>
> While considering whether or not I should bow out again I
> remember the days when flaming was much more popular. The
> list has become so mellow. That is until today (or
> yesterday when this was orginally posted) when I read
> this and was recharged by Natalie's tone.
>
> lisa
> who has 200+ more emails to read
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > > >Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
> >
> > > > I don't get this at all.  Why do y'all care whether I watch the clock or
> > > > count lengths or count laps when swimming???
> >
> > > I don't. At all.
> >
> > Well, then we're even.  I don't give a shit about your pilates drivel
> > either.  At least my comment about my exercise didn't waste as much
> > bandwidth as your constant postings on the subject do.  Nor have I felt
> > the need (before now) to tell you that I would thank you from the bottom
> > of my heart if you would refrain from boring me with your exercise
> > postings.  Actually, I'd never really cared that much.  I just hit
> > delete when I see the beginnings of your pilates junk.  Perhaps you
> > could learn to do the same if I mention swimming?  Nevermind.  I'll just
> > not mention it again.  We must stick to <important> topics on Words-L --
> > i.e., Karen's interests.
> >
> > --
> >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:00:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29602
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:00:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC20FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:04:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13279062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:09:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GL9qC13761 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:09:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 19DA17E76; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:09:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716210952.19DA17E76@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:09:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716103659.026c34b0@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Jul 16, 2002  1:25:59 pm"

Peter Kaminski said:
> Tsukemono, isobe-mochi, kabocha (wrong season, though), agedashi-dofu.

It's not the season for mochi, either.

> I like nori strips and dulse, but I don't like seaweed salad.

Okay, I'll try and take this into account.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:05:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29616
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:05:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2169@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:09:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13279329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:14:49 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLEkC14448 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:14:47 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-198.panax.com
          [63.163.41.198]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6GLEhj30694 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          17:14:43 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <200207161850.g6GIo3N26918@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716171025.00a06030@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:14:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D348489.1B173678@uclink.berkeley.edu>

>The petite sections I have seen are for petites. Short and skinny. They
>go up to about a size 3 or something.     --Betty

That's not my experience.  I've actually bought petite things that fit
nicely.  I figure the only difference is that the skirts are shorter and
maybe the waist is a little higher or something.  I bought a very nice
black wool dress years ago that only came in a petite.  I thought it looked
nice on my 5'10" size 12 (back then) frame.  Perhaps I was delusional.  I
think I still have that dress somewhere.  In fact, I wrote up a story about
it to words-l.  That must have been seven years ago.

Why does Eudora's spell check not like "delusional"?


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:06:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29621
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:06:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012F3BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:15:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13279373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:15:58 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLFtC14550 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:15:56 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-199.panax.com
          [63.163.41.199]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6GLFqj30985 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          17:15:52 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716151927.00b55d10@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:20:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <14527377.4C537D95.0099AB05@netscape.net>

At 03:16 PM 7/16/2002 -0400, jbh wrote:
> >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:
> >
>
> >> Steinbeck, I believe.
> >
> >Clyde, shouldn't that be: "Who is Steinbeck?
>
>Alex Trebek

Somehow, I doubt that Kristin would know that reference (at least, for the
sake of Estonian culture, I hope so).

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:08:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29629
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:08:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC219D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:12:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13279483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:17:52 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLHpC14772 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:17:51 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6GLHpa07026
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:17:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207152018540.26501-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D3469D9.901@swbell.net> <3D348958.C8B335B2@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D348900.10701@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D348F42.D0ABA670@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:25:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: no more sonc
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Boo will be the judge of that.

Betty

Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> They're kinda boring since I took my nipple rings out.
>
> Betty wrote:
>
> > I'd rather you show us your breasts.
> >
> > BB
> >
> > Rita Chapman wrote:
> >
> >>OK, everyone I'm taking a poll:  How many of you want me to
> >>discuss my financial portfolio in extruciating detail.  Be
> >>honest, now.  I know you want to hear all about it.
> >>
> >>Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I'm out - the volatility, lack of a dividend, and no. of outstanding
> >>>options (what if options are expensed?) persuaded me to sell this morning.
> >>>
> >>>If the price drops enough, I may buy more shares, perhaps doing again
> >>>what I did before - I bought 30 shares and held them through two splits,
> >>>ending up with 72.5 (after I bought 5 additional ones).
> >>>
> >>>Boo-hoo! I miss being a SONC shareholder. But I will enjoy receiving the
> >>>fat check that ML will send me. My profit was something like 60-70% (I'll
> >>>calculate it later this week to the penny), and I held the original shares
> >>>only about 18 months.
> >>>
> >>>But with luck, I will acquire more shares and make more money on the co. I
> >>>still think it is a good company = but certain immediate profits looked
> >>>best today. So don't boycott SONC, please!
> >>>
> >>>(Because I sold another stock at a loss this year, I will have no tax
> >>>consequences on this sale.)
> >>>
> >>>Bethany
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>--
> >>Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> >>rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> >>http://www.etext.org/~rita
> >>
> >
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:09:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29638
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:09:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC21AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:13:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13279534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:18:55 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLItC14865 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:18:55 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 94D977D43; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:18:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716211854.94D977D43@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:18:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716171025.00a06030@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 16, 2002  5:14:18 pm"

bonniev said:
> >The petite sections I have seen are for petites. Short and skinny. They
> >go up to about a size 3 or something.     --Betty
>
> That's not my experience.  I've actually bought petite things that fit
> nicely.  I figure the only difference is that the skirts are shorter and
> maybe the waist is a little higher or something.  I bought a very nice
> black wool dress years ago that only came in a petite.  I thought it looked
> nice on my 5'10" size 12 (back then) frame.  Perhaps I was delusional.  I
> think I still have that dress somewhere.  In fact, I wrote up a story about
> it to words-l.  That must have been seven years ago.

My friend Susan is Very Tall And Skinny and I think she wears a size
1. She does shop petites. They do make petites for people like me--I
have two jackets that are petite women's.

> Why does Eudora's spell check not like "delusional"?

Don't know. I like it fine.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:10:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29645
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:10:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC21B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:14:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13279558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:19:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLJgC14938 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:19:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 129587D43; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:19:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716211939.129587D43@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:19:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: no more sonc
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D348F42.D0ABA670@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 16,
              2002  2:25:22 pm"

Betty said:
> Boo will be the judge of that.

Will he? I don't remember him judging mine.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:15:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29670
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:15:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2205@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:18:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13279792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:24:34 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLOYC15505 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:24:34 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc57 ([204.127.198.46]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020716212428.ZQAO29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:24:28 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc57; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:24:27 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020716212428.ZQAO29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:24:27 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

OH YAWN!!

I wanna see words flying and keyboards smoking.

No making nice.

lisa
busy but bored at work
> Yeah, I was cheering her on, too, but the results were people trying to
> make nice with Natalie.  LOL
>
> Betty
>
> Lisa Alfieri wrote:
> >
> > YES!!!! I love a good flame.
> >
> > I can't always read all the messages. Three or four times
> > since my return to words-l I've considered unsubbing due
> > to volume. Especially on the weekends when I don't get
> > much of a chance to read email.
> >
> > While considering whether or not I should bow out again I
> > remember the days when flaming was much more popular. The
> > list has become so mellow. That is until today (or
> > yesterday when this was orginally posted) when I read
> > this and was recharged by Natalie's tone.
> >
> > lisa
> > who has 200+ more emails to read
> > > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > > > >Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
> > >
> > > > > I don't get this at all.  Why do y'all care whether I watch the clock or
> > > > > count lengths or count laps when swimming???
> > >
> > > > I don't. At all.
> > >
> > > Well, then we're even.  I don't give a shit about your pilates drivel
> > > either.  At least my comment about my exercise didn't waste as much
> > > bandwidth as your constant postings on the subject do.  Nor have I felt
> > > the need (before now) to tell you that I would thank you from the bottom
> > > of my heart if you would refrain from boring me with your exercise
> > > postings.  Actually, I'd never really cared that much.  I just hit
> > > delete when I see the beginnings of your pilates junk.  Perhaps you
> > > could learn to do the same if I mention swimming?  Nevermind.  I'll just
> > > not mention it again.  We must stick to <important> topics on Words-L --
> > > i.e., Karen's interests.
> > >
> > > --
> > >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:20:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29695
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:20:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012F544@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:30:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13280142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:30:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLU0C16270 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:30:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B0F25819B; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:29:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716212959.B0F25819B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:29:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

How could I get *ELEVEN* holes in one t-shirt and a) not have a cat
and b) not notice????

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:23:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29703
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:23:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012F5A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:33:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13280318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:33:07 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLX7C16659 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:33:07 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-199.panax.com
          [63.163.41.199]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6GLX6j01616 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          17:33:06 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716173241.00b6d088@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:33:03 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716212959.B0F25819B@yellow.rahul.net>

At 02:29 PM 7/16/2002 -0700,  karen wrote:
>How could I get *ELEVEN* holes in one t-shirt and a) not have a cat
>and b) not notice????

Inattention?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:27:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29723
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:27:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC22DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:30:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13280476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:36:29 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLaTC17014 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:36:29 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6GLaSa28840
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:36:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716212959.B0F25819B@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34939F.A76E404E@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:43:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> How could I get *ELEVEN* holes in one t-shirt and a) not have a cat
> and b) not notice????

Is *everything* about you?

Making Lisa happier,
Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:28:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29727
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:28:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012F62F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:37:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13280572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:37:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLbuC17187 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:37:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4F3217E0A; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:37:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716213752.4F3217E0A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:37:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716173241.00b6d088@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 16, 2002  5:33: 3 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> At 02:29 PM 7/16/2002 -0700,  karen wrote:
> >How could I get *ELEVEN* holes in one t-shirt and a) not have a cat
> >and b) not notice????
>
> Inattention?

It was between one wash and the next. I hope my fancy dancy washer
hasn't taken to putting in holes. I suspect yard/boat work, though.
I'm going to have to be more careful.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:29:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29731
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:29:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012F648@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:38:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13280635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:38:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLcbC17295 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:38:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 20FF97F56; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:38:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716213837.20FF97F56@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:38:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34939F.A76E404E@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 16,
              2002  2:43:59 pm"

Betty said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > How could I get *ELEVEN* holes in one t-shirt and a) not have a cat
> > and b) not notice????
>
> Is *everything* about you?

Well, yes.

> Making Lisa happier,
> Betty

And to make Natalie's day, I'll mention that I'm getting ready to go
to Pilates.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:30:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29745
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:30:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC232B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:34:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13280698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:40:10 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLeAC17491 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:40:10 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6GLdxq29159
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:40:00 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000101c22cdf$eb41ea90$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3492AC.AFBD7A0C@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:39:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet and ATTENTION ROY and STEPH
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:

> The most recent Heide news is, she is feeling much better. Getting an
> MRI every three months and growing stronger. She has started working as
> a temp for ING. or http://www.ingvariableannuities.com/ For those who
> don't know, ING is a very large Dutch financial services firm.

Great news!!!

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:35:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29766
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:35:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC234E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:39:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13280790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:45:03 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLj3C17970 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:45:03 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6GLixq01339
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:45:00 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716163039.0C6D17F26@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3493D8.D7E9BB52@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:44:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

>  your favorite Japanese food, excluding noodles, sushi, sashimi, and
>  one-pot dishes?

Sashimi-style avocado -- i.e., slices of avocado with wasabi sauce.

> Do you like seaweed salad?

I dislike seaweed, but I'm mutant.  My likes/dislikes are probably
irrelevant to this discussion.

> What particular vegetable
>  things do you like?

Daikon in any form (cooked, raw, sliced, chopped, whatever).

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:37:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29774
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:37:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2366@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:41:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13280841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:46:44 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLkgC18115 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:46:43 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-198.panax.com
          [63.163.41.198]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6GLkej04486 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          17:46:40 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020716163039.0C6D17F26@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716174537.009ff870@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:46:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3493D8.D7E9BB52@maynor.net>

>   your favorite Japanese food, excluding noodles, sushi, sashimi, and
>   one-pot dishes?

Mac and cheese.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:37:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29779
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:37:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2368@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:41:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13280846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:46:48 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLkmC18126 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:46:48 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6GLkcq02148
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:46:39 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716163039.0C6D17F26@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020716190313.B22732@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34943C.6A619938@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:46:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> A very simple miso soup, maybe 1 cup per person, with a dusting
> of green onion sliced into rings and very little cubes of tofu,
> say one layer at the bottom of the cup, and just a breath of
> seaweed.

I don't mind seaweed in miso soup, btw.  It kind of <needs> to be
there.  I just don't like seaweed straight.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:42:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29800
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:42:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC23AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:46:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13281077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:51:40 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLpeC18796 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:51:40 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws128-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.128]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6GLpBq04174
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:51:14 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F214WcB2KWFYobPJLTq00004ab1@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020710143114.03402660@victoria.nb.no>
            <3D345267.73D03D23@akad.ee>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34954C.F0C51A6A@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:51:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Kristin Sarv wrote:

> sometimes, very rarely, though, there's the right *feeling* of English,
> so that the brain switches over, onto "English channel".

You have a <way with words>, Kristin.  I like this description.  If I
get stuck teaching Studies in Second-Language Acquisition in the fall, I
may quote you.  But most of the ESL/EFL students my students will be
teaching aren't likely to be at the level of switching into "English
channel."  Some of the students in the SLA class may be, though.  (Lots
of international students get TESOL certificates here -- often while
getting MAs in the FL Dept in their native languages.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:44:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29816
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:44:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012F798@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:54:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13281128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:54:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLsHC19057 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:54:17 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4AF26802C; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 14:54:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020716215413.4AF26802C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:54:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716174537.009ff870@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 16, 2002  5:46:16 pm"

bonniev said:
> >   your favorite Japanese food, excluding noodles, sushi, sashimi, and
> >   one-pot dishes?
>
> Mac and cheese.

Sorry, that's a one-pot dish.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:48:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29843
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:48:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC23D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:52:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13280874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:58:08 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GLm8C18239 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:48:08 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6GLm7Uh020169 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:48:07 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207161746290.24248-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:48:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716213837.20FF97F56@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>And to make Natalie's day, I'll mention that I'm getting ready to go
>to Pilates.

And I shall swim in the morning. I have a spiffy new yellow kickboard:
treamlined, elegant. And goggles. I shall do only a few lengths - maybe a
dozen. I just started swimming again, and it takes me a while to build
endurance.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:50:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29859
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:50:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC23E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:54:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13281263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:00:12 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GM0CC19632 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:00:12 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6GM0Ba26941
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:00:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207161746290.24248-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34992E.A72D6E5C@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:07:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> >And to make Natalie's day, I'll mention that I'm getting ready to go
> >to Pilates.
>
> And I shall swim in the morning. I have a spiffy new yellow kickboard:
> treamlined, elegant. And goggles. I shall do only a few lengths - maybe a
> dozen. I just started swimming again, and it takes me a while to build
> endurance.

How many laps is that?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:51:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29865
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 11:51:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC23E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:55:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13281277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:00:51 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GM0oC19669 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:00:50 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6GM0oa27614
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:00:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716215413.4AF26802C@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D349955.B316D6D8@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:08:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> bonniev said:
> > >   your favorite Japanese food, excluding noodles, sushi, sashimi, and
> > >   one-pot dishes?
> >
> > Mac and cheese.
>
> Sorry, that's a one-pot dish.

Aren't you supposed to be at Pilates?  Be gone, woman!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:01:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29905
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 12:01:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012F8DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:11:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13282151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:10:52 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GMApC20834 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:10:51 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws71-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.71]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6GMAhq12921
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:10:45 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F180roBCADIsipni1ZA00013185@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3499B1.D4B674EE@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:09:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

> I certainly didn't mean to offend you, Natalie. I've read most of the posts
> that followed my comment. I responded "I'm not even touching this" because
> we've been through this conversation several times. To me, someone who swam
> competitively for many years, 1 lap=1 length, end of story. Every coach and

Hmm.  I must have assumed a personal insult that was intended for others
since I have certainly never been involved in any argument about what a
lap is.  And your definition happens to fit with what I've always
thought of as a lap when counting, even though I never at any time
claimed that to be the <correct definition> of a lap.  I've never
claimed knowledge of the <correct> meaning of that word.  Although
knowledge for its own sake can be fun, I have never at any time in my
life had a real need to know the <official>, <correct> definition of
"lap."  It has no relevance in my life.  (And I must admit that I had
forgotten your definition.  I was thinking you were a two-length=lap
person, which is why I described laps that way -- since I figure you're
in a position to know the definition.  Obviously I forgot what you'd
said, though -- since, as I've said, the definition of a lap is far, far
from important in my life.)

What I found strange was that the point of my posting was about looking
at the clock rather than counting, yet you responded with "I'm not even
touching this."  Then Karen chimed in thanking you from the bottom of
her heart.  I don't think it was all that mutant or paranoid of me to
think it had had something to do with something I had said and that
Karen did not want to hear anything about swimming since it happens not
to be something she's into.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:03:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29924
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 12:03:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC258B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:07:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13282558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:13:04 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GMD4C21220 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:13:04 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws71-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.71]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6GMCtq14037
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:12:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <B959C8E9.F29D%peterlevy@email.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D349A64.10241C0@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:12:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Levy wrote:

> You got sucked in!

Not by me.  Even though I'm beginning to understand that none of the
snide remarks (Karen's being much snider than Marie's, I might add) had
anything to do with me and my interests, the exchange has made me
hesitant to want to continue any discussion of such topics.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:04:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29928
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 12:04:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012F92B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:13:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13281358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:13:36 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GM3aC19900 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:03:36 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6GM3aUh025208 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:03:36 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207161803070.24248-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:03:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34992E.A72D6E5C@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

>> And I shall swim in the morning. I have a spiffy new yellow kickboard:
>> treamlined, elegant. And goggles. I shall do only a few lengths - maybe a
>> dozen. I just started swimming again, and it takes me a while to build
>> endurance.
>
>How many laps is that?

I do not do words-l math.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:20:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29997
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 12:20:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012FA1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:29:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13283127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:29:10 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GMT9C22688 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:29:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws116-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.116]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6GMSkq21073
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:28:59 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <200207161850.g6GIo3N26918@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D349DED.FB83841C@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:27:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Anne wrote:

> Don't you just love that use of the word "petite?" Is anyone fooled into
> thinking that these clothes are really for petite women? They're for short
> women who wear larger sizes, that's all. Men might shop in a Big 'N' Tall
> shop, but women wouldn't shop at a Short 'N' Fat store.

Although you're right about the funny use of the word, some brands do
use it to mean really petite, instead of simply short.  Like sometimes
clothes come in sizes L,M,S,P, with petite being smaller than small.
Most brands, however, do use it simply to mean short (not necessarily
extremely short, which I am not -- and I always try to find pants in
petite since they're the right length).  I think more clothes are
available now in what I've always called "fat petite" than used to be.
(By "fat petite" I mean pants that go up as high as 10 or 12.  In the
olden days petites often stopped at 8.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:29:30 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00141
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 12:29:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012FAA0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:38:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13283402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:38:36 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GMcaC23975 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:38:36 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-7.panax.com [65.114.190.7])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GMcZj14389 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:38:35 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D348489.1B173678@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <200207161850.g6GIo3N26918@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716183710.00a06d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:38:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716171025.00a06030@pop3.norton.antivirus>

>nice on my 5'10" size 12 (back then) frame.  Perhaps I was delusional.  I
>think I still have that dress somewhere.     --bonniev

I do still have it.  It's a size 14, petite, Liz Claiborne.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:43:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00197
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 12:43:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0012FB78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:52:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13283854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:52:14 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GMqEC25831 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:52:14 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws23-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.23]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6GMqBq00835
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:52:12 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.1020716123323.8746A-100000@foxtrot>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34A398.619EAC3E@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:52:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bookrat wrote:

> Now, suppose that this person were the IT director at a very large
> metropolitan public library?  And suppose that a year from now this person
> might be writing half of one's job evalution?

He/she might be moving to you, or you might be moving to him/her?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:48:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00227
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 12:48:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012FBC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:57:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13283988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:57:26 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GMvPC26500 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:57:25 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws23-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.23]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6GMvNq03270
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:57:23 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020714203846.10A1E8574@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020714223003.A16784@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020714203846.10A1E8574@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020715214601.A19574@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020716095114.00baa860@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020716112127.A21131@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020716141202.A12031@pobox.com>
            <20020716220019.A23195@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34A4D0.2FA1E2E7@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:57:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> = In my next life I am going to write tools to do mutt config-
> = uration etc in a friendly way ... The situation is atrocious,
> = because, of course, where's the glamor in writing a config
> = tool?
>
> Don't underestimate what others will find glamourous.

I'll find it glamorous, Tushykins.  Mutt is what I use on those rare
occasions when I read/write on wojomedia, my ISP that isn't really an
ISP but is where I'm living at the moment.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 13:14:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00355
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 13:14:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0012FD6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:23:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13284814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 19:23:47 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe40.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.97]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GNNlC29221 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:23:47 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          16 Jul 2002 16:23:41 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
References: <200207161850.g6GIo3N26918@listserv.cc.uga.edu> 
            <3D349DED.FB83841C@maynor.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 23:23:41.0930 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[D28A24A0:01C22D1F]
Message-ID:  <OE40A8M6XQQez1enAqp00000398@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:22:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

When you're in the big girls' department and you see a rack of
rectangular-shaped* blouses marked Size P, then you're definitely not
talking about Extra-Small.

-aht
* The long edge of the rectangle is the horizontal one.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Natalie Maynor" <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
To: <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: Espen and Karen's Feet


> Anne wrote:
>
> > Don't you just love that use of the word "petite?" Is anyone fooled into
> > thinking that these clothes are really for petite women? They're for
short
> > women who wear larger sizes, that's all. Men might shop in a Big 'N'
Tall
> > shop, but women wouldn't shop at a Short 'N' Fat store.
>
> Although you're right about the funny use of the word, some brands do
> use it to mean really petite, instead of simply short.  Like sometimes
> clothes come in sizes L,M,S,P, with petite being smaller than small.
> Most brands, however, do use it simply to mean short (not necessarily
> extremely short, which I am not -- and I always try to find pants in
> petite since they're the right length).  I think more clothes are
> available now in what I've always called "fat petite" than used to be.
> (By "fat petite" I mean pants that go up as high as 10 or 12.  In the
> olden days petites often stopped at 8.)
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 13:24:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00412
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 13:24:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC28D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:28:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13285247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 19:34:12 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GNYCC30479 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:34:12 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws135-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.135]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6GNY8q14226
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:34:08 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716210952.19DA17E76@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34AD6D.24AF8504@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:34:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> It's not the season for mochi, either.

But hey -- the mention of seasons made me think of this -- it's pretty
close to Eel Day, isn't it?

> > I like nori strips and dulse, but I don't like seaweed salad.
>
> Okay, I'll try and take this into account.

As I've said already, I'm mutant, but I do like nori on rice balls.  I'm
not sure how they would fit into a full meal since I think of them as
picnic snacks, but they're worth thinking about.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 13:30:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00446
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 13:30:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC28FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:34:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13285355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 19:40:08 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GNe8C30904 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:40:08 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws135-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.135]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6GNe5q15922
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:40:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716205622.CEFW25638.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>
            <3D348CB4.BEB95161@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34AED3.3B12CEB3@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:40:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:
>
> Yeah, I was cheering her on, too, but the results were people trying to
> make nice with Natalie.  LOL

Well, I was indeed po'ed since the replies were to what I had posted
about swimming.  As I think I said a little while ago, it's not much of
a leap to see why I would assume I was being attacked.  I guess a <nice>
person would've ignored it, of course, but it really did gall me beyond
ignoring it that Karen, the person who goes on and on and on ad nauseum
about her exercise routines, seemed to be suggesting that my one comment
about mine was something to be aborted forthwith.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 13:32:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00455
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 13:32:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0012FE68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:41:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13285396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 19:41:51 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GNfoC31021 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:41:50 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws135-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.135]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6GNfjq16640
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:41:46 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716212959.B0F25819B@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34AF36.99A4FC63@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:41:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> How could I get *ELEVEN* holes in one t-shirt and a) not have a cat
> and b) not notice????

Do you drink beer?  I almost never do now, but years ago in my
beer-drinking years my t-shirts were riddled with holes from the
openings.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 13:47:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00532
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 13:47:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC298B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:51:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13285834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 19:56:52 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GNuqC32220 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:56:52 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws104-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.104]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6GNunq21242
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:56:49 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <B959C8E9.F29D%peterlevy@email.com> <3D349A64.10241C0@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34B28E.1989396A@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:55:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Peter Levy wrote:
>
> > You got sucked in!
>
> Not by me.  Even though I'm beginning to understand that none of the
> snide remarks (Karen's being much snider than Marie's, I might add) had
> anything to do with me and my interests, the exchange has made me
> hesitant to want to continue any discussion of such topics.

Just wanted to say that I see my illogic here so that maybe I won't be
trashed for it.  Perhaps it is true that Marie got <sucked in> by my
response saying that I didn't understand her response.  So my "not by
me" is perhaps erroneous and the following explanation not logical in
relation to the sucking in.  Let me just say that I did not
intentionally suck Marie into talking about laps.  I really, really have
no interest in the definition of "lap."  And I really, really am going
to refrain from swimming comments since they seem to lead to <bad
blood>.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 13:50:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00554
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 13:50:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC29B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:54:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13285603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 19:59:54 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GNnsC31693 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:49:54 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B95B6A07 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:49:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6GNnsJ79613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:49:54
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020714203846.10A1E8574@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020714223003.A16784@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020714203846.10A1E8574@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020715214601.A19574@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020716095114.00baa860@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020716112127.A21131@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020716141202.A12031@pobox.com>
            <20020716220019.A23195@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716184954.A78332@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:49:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716220019.A23195@yoccoz.multinix.com>; from
              stevie@MULTINIX.COM on Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 10:00:19PM +0200

On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 10:00:19PM +0200, steph wrote:
> = In my next life I am going to write tools to do mutt config-
> = uration etc in a friendly way ... The situation is atrocious,
> = because, of course, where's the glamor in writing a config
> = tool?
>
> Don't underestimate what others will find glamourous.

Oh, I don't care. I was just saying why (I think) the situation
is bad.

> How are you going to cope with the fact that developers are wont
> to change what all can be configured each round?

I don't think that's trueu of mutt, say, or zsh or anything.
Developers who pull that kind of stunt don't see their programs
being used much.

This is what happened to the AfterStep I was using: I upgraded
one day--it's hardly like I keep up with new versions--and
everything broke. Searching yielded nothing except "oh, that
old format of the config file ... it's gone". Couldn't get it
to read the old-style file. This struck me as similar to the
style popularized by Netscape ... Finally, I copied the binary
on my laptop over.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 13:50:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00550
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 13:50:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC29B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:54:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13285922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 19:59:40 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6GNxdC32477 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:59:39 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6GNxdC19135 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          18:59:39 -0500 (CDT)
References: <B959C8E9.F29D%peterlevy@email.com> <3D349A64.10241C0@maynor.net> 
            <3D34B28E.1989396A@maynor.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000b01c22d25$0c4ce100$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:01:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Just wanted to say that I see my illogic here so that maybe I won't be
> trashed for it.  Perhaps it is true that Marie got <sucked in> by my
> response saying that I didn't understand her response.  So my "not by
> me" is perhaps erroneous and the following explanation not logical in
> relation to the sucking in.  Let me just say that I did not
> intentionally suck Marie into talking about laps.  I really, really
have
> no interest in the definition of "lap."  And I really, really am going
> to refrain from swimming comments since they seem to lead to <bad
> blood>.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

So.  End of discussion.  By the lapdogs.
That's okay.

             - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:00:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00610
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:00:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2A1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:04:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13286255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:10:07 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0A6C01045 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:10:06 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.41]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZD9QY00.P42 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:08:58 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207161746290.24248-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D34992E.A72D6E5C@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34B5C1.99305FBD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:09:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> How many laps is that?

    Or, more accurately, how many cramps is that?

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:02:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00621
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:02:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00130020@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:11:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13286304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:11:34 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0BYC01165 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:11:34 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws210-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.210]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6H0BVq25218
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:11:32 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34B603.F1228096@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:10:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Today is Indeed the Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Col Hannum:  The bday is today, not tomorrow.  I just talked to General
Grissom.  He is alive and well and says that he's gradually catching up
on list mail -- that where he is right now is my butt-seam hole.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:02:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00627
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:02:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2A3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:06:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13286002 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:12:02 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H021C00304 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:02:02 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927C96A09 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:02:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6H020H80205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:02:00
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D341A4E.D47304A8@maynor.net>
            <Pine.SUN.3.96.1020716123323.8746A-100000@foxtrot>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020716190200.B78332@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:02:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: your mail
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SUN.3.96.1020716123323.8746A-100000@foxtrot>; from
              bookrat@RAHUL.NET on Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 12:44:34PM -0700

On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 12:44:34PM -0700, Bookrat wrote:
> What would you think of someone who thinks that, because a website has a
> lot of frequently-changing content (i.e., is dynamic), it should therefore
> be written in DHTML (Dynamic HTML)?

Nothing.

>                                    Furthermore, suppose that this person
> was seriously arguing that it would be easier to maintain a very large
> website using mostly static DHTML pages instead of using a database-driven
> solution?

"Mostly static"? Aren't you putting words in his mouth? Or hers?
They don't know DHTML pages are static.

As a matter of fact they are dynamic. Especially when extended (in
a very minor and unimportant way) by some kind of database-reading
component. What do you think the D is for, Einstein? "Dynamic"...

> Now, suppose that this person were the IT director at a very large
> metropolitan public library?  And suppose that a year from now this person
> might be writing half of one's job evalution?

I still think nothing. I am not being compensated for it, am I?

Since the question is not what to think, but how to proceed--well,
I am sure you know how to proceed, but I will say it anyway--the
way is to sneak in database-derived pages as a small convenience
in the grand overarching design consisting of DHTML. In fact a
case could be made that a database connection is an integral
part of DHTML.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:05:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00664
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:05:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2A66@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:09:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13286488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:14:58 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0EvC01607 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:14:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D91BA8034; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:14:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717001456.D91BA8034@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:14:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D349955.B316D6D8@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 16,
              2002  3: 8:21 pm"

Betty said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > bonniev said:
> > > >   your favorite Japanese food, excluding noodles, sushi, sashimi, and
> > > >   one-pot dishes?
> > >
> > > Mac and cheese.
> >
> > Sorry, that's a one-pot dish.
>
> Aren't you supposed to be at Pilates?  Be gone, woman!

I did. It was fun.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:06:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00668
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:06:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2A69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:09:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13286508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:15:18 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0FIC01707 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:15:18 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020717001513.LUZU26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:15:13 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020716210952.19DA17E76@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716170353.022b7550@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:11:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34AD6D.24AF8504@maynor.net>

Karen writes,

>It's not the season for mochi, either.

Yeah, but at least you can still get it.

Natalie writes,

>As I've said already, I'm mutant, but I do like nori on rice balls.  I'm
>not sure how they would fit into a full meal since I think of them as
>picnic snacks, but they're worth thinking about.

Yep, rice balls are good, too.

I've been putting a nori/sesame seed furikake on lots of stuff lately --
rice, of course, but also things like creamed spinach.

And,

>Sashimi-style avocado -- i.e., slices of avocado with wasabi sauce.

I'll have to try this.  I usually eat them dipped in balsamic vinegar.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:07:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00678
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:07:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2A74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:11:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13286549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:16:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0GwC01916 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:16:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 404877FCF; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:16:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717001658.404877FCF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:16:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3499B1.D4B674EE@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 16,
              2002  5: 9:53 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Hmm.  I must have assumed a personal insult that was intended for others
> since I have certainly never been involved in any argument about what a
> lap is.

Yes, you have. Not argument, discussion.

> I don't think it was all that mutant or paranoid of me to
> think it had had something to do with something I had said and that
> Karen did not want to hear anything about swimming since it happens not
> to be something she's into.

I think it was pretty paranoid, to be honest. I don't try to silence
conversations I don't want to participate in. It was the pointless
back-and-forth I was thanking Marie for not doing.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:08:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00695
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:08:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00130088@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:18:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13286584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:18:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0I7C02123 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:18:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 520A77ECE; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:18:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717001806.520A77ECE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:18:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D349A64.10241C0@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 16,
              2002  5:12:52 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Not by me.  Even though I'm beginning to understand that none of the
> snide remarks (Karen's being much snider than Marie's, I might add)

The snideness was in the ear of the reader. I did not intend it to be
snide at all.

> anything to do with me and my interests, the exchange has made me
> hesitant to want to continue any discussion of such topics.

Well, that's too bad.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:10:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00702
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:10:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2AA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:14:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13286254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:20:05 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0A5C01041 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:10:05 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6H0A4Uh032156 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:10:04 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162005400.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:10:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Hey, Natalie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I have decided not to rent a car and not to hitchhike. I will need to take
the train from Helsinki to Joensuu and back - and maybe go somewhere
else. Will I save money by buying a Finnrail pass? I will use it on
Sunday, Aug. 4 and Friday, Aug. 10 for sure.

I am planning to take a taxi to Valamo from Joensuu on Aug 4 and back to
Joensuu on Aug. 7 (Wed morning - for the excursion - I hope it does not
leave too early - I need to check the website again to see if times are
available).

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:11:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00706
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:11:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2AAF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:15:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13286691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:20:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0KfC02469 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:20:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 234F07F33; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:20:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717002039.234F07F33@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:20:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34AD6D.24AF8504@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 16,
              2002  6:34: 5 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > It's not the season for mochi, either.
>
> But hey -- the mention of seasons made me think of this -- it's pretty
> close to Eel Day, isn't it?

Yes. *er* is not opposed to eel or squid, which is good.

> As I've said already, I'm mutant, but I do like nori on rice balls.  I'm
> not sure how they would fit into a full meal since I think of them as
> picnic snacks, but they're worth thinking about.

No rice balls, sorry.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:14:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00710
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:14:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2AC4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:17:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13286765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:23:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0NNC02842 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:23:23 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 811107C38; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:22:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717002218.811107C38@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:22:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34AED3.3B12CEB3@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 16,
              2002  6:40: 3 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> ignoring it that Karen, the person who goes on and on and on ad nauseum
> about her exercise routines,

I *never* go on about my exercise routines. I go on about Pilates,
which is a lot more than what I do.

> seemed to be suggesting that my one comment
> about mine was something to be aborted forthwith.

Not your one comment; a long pointless back-and-forth.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:15:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00737
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:15:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2ACB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:19:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13286792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:24:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0OdC02927 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:24:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 888B57EB6; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:22:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717002246.888B57EB6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:22:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34AF36.99A4FC63@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 16,
              2002  6:41:42 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Do you drink beer?  I almost never do now, but years ago in my
> beer-drinking years my t-shirts were riddled with holes from the
> openings.

I use an opener.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:16:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00742
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:16:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001300EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:25:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13286814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:25:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0PQC03002 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:25:26 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8B57E7CBC; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:24:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717002424.8B57E7CBC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:24:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716170353.022b7550@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Jul 16, 2002  5:11:38 pm"

Peter Kaminski said:
> I've been putting a nori/sesame seed furikake on lots of stuff lately --
> rice, of course, but also things like creamed spinach.

Yum!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:24:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00772
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:24:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2B35@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:27:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13286753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:33:17 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0NHC02819 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:23:17 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6H0NHUh003043;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:23:17 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162021520.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:23:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

It is probably time to move. Yesterday, I received from the Knox
County Department of Revenue a letter asking that I provide my tax no.,
the name of my business, and a list of all the owners of my business.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:28:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00796
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:28:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001301A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:37:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13287245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:37:31 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0bVC04076 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:37:31 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6H0bUoo025158 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:37:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207161746290.24248-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D34992E.A72D6E5C@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020716173707.00a9be20@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:37:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34B5C1.99305FBD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>

At 05:09 PM 7/16/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > How many laps is that?
>
>     Or, more accurately, how many cramps is that?

You are so mean.  This used to be a <nice> list.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:31:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00826
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:31:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2B65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:34:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13287285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:39:47 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0dkC04265 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:39:46 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6H0djoo001478 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:39:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020716173946.00a94ad0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:39:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Natalie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162005400.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu >

Yes.

At 08:10 PM 7/16/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>I have decided not to rent a car and not to hitchhike. I will need to take
>the train from Helsinki to Joensuu and back - and maybe go somewhere
>else. Will I save money by buying a Finnrail pass? I will use it on
>Sunday, Aug. 4 and Friday, Aug. 10 for sure.
>
>I am planning to take a taxi to Valamo from Joensuu on Aug 4 and back to
>Joensuu on Aug. 7 (Wed morning - for the excursion - I hope it does not
>leave too early - I need to check the website again to see if times are
>available).
>
>Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:31:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00830
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:31:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2B68@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:35:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13287299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:40:46 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0ejC04345 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:40:45 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6H0eioo022394 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:40:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D34AD6D.24AF8504@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020716174001.00a9dc60@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:40:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717002039.234F07F33@yellow.rahul.net>

I've decided that you are a Marie wannabe with your *er* , aka Oleander.

Betty

At 05:20 PM 7/16/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Natalie Maynor said:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > It's not the season for mochi, either.
> >
> > But hey -- the mention of seasons made me think of this -- it's pretty
> > close to Eel Day, isn't it?
>
>Yes. *er* is not opposed to eel or squid, which is good.
>
> > As I've said already, I'm mutant, but I do like nori on rice balls.  I'm
> > not sure how they would fit into a full meal since I think of them as
> > picnic snacks, but they're worth thinking about.
>
>No rice balls, sorry.
>
>Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:32:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00834
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:32:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2B6D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:35:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13287323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:41:24 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0f9C04403 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:41:14 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.41]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZDB6P00.52V for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:40:01 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020717002246.888B57EB6@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34BD0F.563E558C@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:40:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I use an opener.

    A pair of jacks?

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:34:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00842
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:34:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2B92@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:38:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13287508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:44:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0i5C05013 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:44:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 53CA284D1; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:44:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717004404.53CA284D1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:44:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020716173707.00a9be20@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 16, 2002  5:37:36 pm"

Betty said:
> At 05:09 PM 7/16/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Betty wrote:
> >
> > > How many laps is that?
> >
> >     Or, more accurately, how many cramps is that?
>
> You are so mean.  This used to be a <nice> list.

Yeah, where people flamed the hell out of each other.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:35:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00846
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:35:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013021A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:45:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13287538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:45:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0j3C05166 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:45:03 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8E11D8022; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:45:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717004502.8E11D8022@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:45:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020716174001.00a9dc60@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 16, 2002  5:40:50 pm"

Betty said:
> I've decided that you are a Marie wannabe with your *er* , aka Oleander.

Marie-emulator, not wannabe. Leander.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:36:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00850
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:36:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00130224@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:45:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13287561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:45:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0jhC05195 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:45:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E34FF82F8; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:45:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717004542.E34FF82F8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:45:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34BD0F.563E558C@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at
              "Jul 16, 2002  5:40:48 pm"

John Williams said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I use an opener.
>
>     A pair of jacks?

LOL. You're weird.:) But at least you don't get leg cramps in the clutch...

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:38:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00854
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:38:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013023D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:47:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13287618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:47:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0lFC05371 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:47:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4B03D80B0; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:47:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717004714.4B03D80B0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:47:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Yum!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

First BLT of the year with homegrown tomatoes! Followed by the last of
the blueberry pie.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:38:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00859
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:38:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0013024A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:47:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13287706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:47:41 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0lfC05485 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:47:41 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6H0leoo016770 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:47:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020716174001.00a9dc60@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020716174708.00a91d30@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:47:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Karen's Oleander
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717004502.8E11D8022@yellow.rahul.net>

At 05:45 PM 7/16/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > I've decided that you are a Marie wannabe with your *er* , aka Oleander.
>
>Marie-emulator, not wannabe. Leander.

He will always be Oleander to me. It just seems so appropriate.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:40:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00863
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:40:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2BCB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:44:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13287743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:49:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0nnC05639 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:49:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A28BD8100; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:49:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717004948.A28BD8100@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:49:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen's Oleander
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020716174708.00a91d30@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 16, 2002  5:47:45 pm"

Betty said:
> He will always be Oleander to me. It just seems so appropriate.

Why?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:45:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00880
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:45:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001302BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:54:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13287520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:54:17 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0iHC05049 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:44:17 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6H0iGUh009158 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:44:16 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162044060.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:44:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Natalie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020716173946.00a94ad0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

>Yes.

Are you guessing?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:45:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00884
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:45:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001302BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:54:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13287861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:54:23 -0400
Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0sNC06014 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:54:23 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.177.b5ffcba (18557) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 20:54:12 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <177.b5ffcba.2a661a33@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:54:11 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/16/2002 7:33:29 PM Central Daylight Time,
dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes:

<<
It is probably time to move. Yesterday, I received from the Knox
County Department of Revenue a letter asking that I provide my tax no.,
the name of my business, and a list of all the owners of my business.


>>

Sounds like a computer foulup.  Who are you going to list as the owners,
the state?

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:47:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00888
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:47:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2BFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:50:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13287900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:56:19 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0uJC06138 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:56:19 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 50C7E8100; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 17:56:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717005616.50C7E8100@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:56:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <177.b5ffcba.2a661a33@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Jul 16,
              2002  8:54:11 pm"

Evelyn Duncan said:
> In a message dated 07/16/2002 7:33:29 PM Central Daylight Time,
> dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes:
>
> <<
> It is probably time to move. Yesterday, I received from the Knox
> County Department of Revenue a letter asking that I provide my tax no.,
> the name of my business, and a list of all the owners of my business.
>
>
> >>
>
> Sounds like a computer foulup.  Who are you going to list as the owners,
> the state?

Doesn't Bethany have a consulting business?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:49:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00892
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:49:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001302F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:58:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13287966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:58:38 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H0wcC06320 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:58:38 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6H0waoo023992 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:58:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020716174708.00a91d30@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020716175816.00a96be0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:58:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Karen's Oleander
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717004948.A28BD8100@yellow.rahul.net>

At 05:49 PM 7/16/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > He will always be Oleander to me. It just seems so appropriate.
>
>Why?

 From what you have told us about him it just fits, imo.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:56:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00902
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 14:56:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2C43@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:00:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13288111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:06:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H161C06876 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:06:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2684B7E59; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:06:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717010601.2684B7E59@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:06:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen's Oleander
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020716175816.00a96be0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 16, 2002  5:58:42 pm"

Betty said:
> At 05:49 PM 7/16/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Betty said:
> > > He will always be Oleander to me. It just seems so appropriate.
> >
> >Why?
>
>  From what you have told us about him it just fits, imo.

Did I tell you that the reason his yard is so neat is because his
neighbor does it? *er* said he once mowed this guy's yard, but he
didn't like the way *er* did it--something about the direction of the
grass.  His back yard grass was worse than mine, and mine's about a
foot high.

Anyway, he's not at all like oleander.

I'm so glad I proofread! I almost said his name. I'm just an e-oops
waiting to happen.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:03:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00921
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:03:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2C69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:07:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13288050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:12:40 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H12eC06648 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:02:40 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6H12eUh015359 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:02:40 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162100570.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:02:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business - alec, do not read this!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <177.b5ffcba.2a661a33@aol.com>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>Sounds like a computer foulup.  Who are you going to list as the owners,
>the state?

My response:

Thank you for your letter of July 11, 2002 (enclosed for your
information).

I do not understand what information you are asking for. You specify a
Federal Employers ID Number (FEIN), a name that the FEIN is registered
in, and a list of business owners, a State Sales Tax Account Number, and
the name of a person to whom the State Sales Tax
Account is registered.

You have also enclosed a sheet (enclosed for your information) informing
me that you have assigned me an employer identification number (EIN). I
have never been assigned such a number. And I do not own a business.

But if you will tell me the name of the business you are seeking
information for, I will try to help you identify the owner or owners.

Yours very sincerely,


Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:04:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00928
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:04:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2C76@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:07:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13288069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:13:15 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H13FC06697 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:03:15 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6H13FUh015556 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:03:15 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162102530.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:03:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717005616.50C7E8100@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>Doesn't Bethany have a consulting business?

No. She consults, but she does not own a business.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:06:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00932
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:06:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2C89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:09:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13288310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:15:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1FOC07521 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:15:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8E0F07E7B; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:15:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717011523.8E0F07E7B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:15:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162102530.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 16, 2002  9: 3:14 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >Doesn't Bethany have a consulting business?
>
> No. She consults, but she does not own a business.

You're not registered as a business?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:07:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00936
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:07:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001303D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:16:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13288442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:16:41 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1GeC07772 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:16:40 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6H1Gdoo030323 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:16:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020716175816.00a96be0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020716181525.00a9a360@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:16:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Karen's Oleander
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717010601.2684B7E59@yellow.rahul.net>

At 06:06 PM 7/16/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > At 05:49 PM 7/16/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Betty said:
> > > > He will always be Oleander to me. It just seems so appropriate.
> > >
> > >Why?
> >
> >  From what you have told us about him it just fits, imo.
>
>Did I tell you that the reason his yard is so neat is because his
>neighbor does it? *er* said he once mowed this guy's yard, but he
>didn't like the way *er* did it--something about the direction of the
>grass.  His back yard grass was worse than mine, and mine's about a
>foot high.
>
>Anyway, he's not at all like oleander.
>
>I'm so glad I proofread! I almost said his name. I'm just an e-oops
>waiting to happen.

He acts like oleander but I don't think it would be a big deal if you
e-oops.  No one really cares.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:10:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00941
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:10:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2CC0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:14:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13288569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:19:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1JqC08223 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:19:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 17FA37E59; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:19:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717011952.17FA37E59@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:19:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen's Oleander
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020716181525.00a9a360@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 16, 2002  6:16:45 pm"

Betty said:
> He acts like oleander

I don't think so. How?

> but I don't think it would be a big deal if you
> e-oops.  No one really cares.

I know. But I do.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:12:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00993
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:12:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2CE2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:16:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13288693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:22:10 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1MAC08624 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:22:10 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZD00M77D4XGR@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:22:10 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <472A1ECD.3D5EB533.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Message-ID:  <3D34C665.2030905@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:20:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

jbh wrote:

> Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET> wrote:
>
>
>>PBS had a show last night, and now I want to go to Namibia
>>for vacation :).
>>
>>
> I'll go with you.  I've never been south of Lusaka, Zambia -- unless the Seychelles are, don't have a map right here (but I am in the library, I'll go check in a minute or two).
>
>


OK, it's a date!


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:15:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01060
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:15:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2CF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:18:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13288290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:24:30 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1EUC07423 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:14:30 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6H1ETUh020214 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:14:30 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162113080.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:14:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Helsinki Card
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://www.helsinkiexpert.fi/document.asp?intSiteID=2&intDocID=274

and

(in English) http://www.otsomedia.com/hc_2002/eng/ohjeet.html

Is this a good deal?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:21:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01095
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:21:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2D25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:24:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13288906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:30:21 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1ULC09366 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:30:21 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZD000NEDIKNT@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:30:21 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <65F922AB.6DA4CEB9.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Message-ID:  <3D34C850.1020604@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:28:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

jbh wrote:

> Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET> wrote:
>
>

>>Why on earth would you think  that?  I'm always ready to go to Africa.  I think I'd avoid Sierra Leone, Liberia, and the ilk, but I'd even go back to Sudan -- what the hey, I already speak the language.  Namibia offers the advantage of English (it was German SW Africa, BTW), mentioned in Gravity's Rainbow, too.
>>
>
> jbh
>

Because many times somebody who has lived in a place doesn't
see why anybody would want to visit :).  Gravity's Rainbow
is no recommendation for me -- I've never been able to get
past page 125.

Shall we swim laps at the beach?




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:23:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01102
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:23:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2D3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:26:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13288971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:32:16 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1WGC09593 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:32:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7B3B27E3A; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:32:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717013215.7B3B27E3A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:32:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34C850.1020604@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 16,
              2002  8:28:48 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Shall we swim laps at the beach?

I do NOT understand people who swim laps at a beach.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:25:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01107
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:25:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2D4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:29:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13289026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:34:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1YpC09775 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:34:51 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4E7077E3A; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:34:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717013450.4E7077E3A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:34:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3493D8.D7E9BB52@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 16,
              2002  4:44:56 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Daikon in any form (cooked, raw, sliced, chopped, whatever).

Why?!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:25:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01114
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:25:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2D52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:29:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13289035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:34:57 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1YuC09792 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:34:56 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZD0008SDQ8NU@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:34:56 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020717013215.7B3B27E3A@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D34C964.10208@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:33:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>Shall we swim laps at the beach?
>>
>
> I do NOT understand people who swim laps at a beach.
>


I'm not *even* going there!



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:26:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01118
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:26:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001304F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:36:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13289082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:36:11 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1aAC09917 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:36:11 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3B87E7D7B; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:36:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717013610.3B87E7D7B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:36:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34C964.10208@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 16,
              2002  8:33:24 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Rita Chapman said:
> >
> >>Shall we swim laps at the beach?
> >>
> >
> > I do NOT understand people who swim laps at a beach.
> >
>
>
> I'm not *even* going there!

Thank God for that!

I used to go to the beach in Honolulu all the time and see people
doing laps--particularly at Ala Moana beach. WTF is the point!!!!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:27:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01122
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:27:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001304F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:36:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13289098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:36:47 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1alC09956 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:36:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws29-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.29]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6H1aiq21672
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:36:45 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162005400.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34C9FB.F43DCC84@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:35:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Natalie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> I have decided not to rent a car and not to hitchhike. I will need to take
> the train from Helsinki to Joensuu and back - and maybe go somewhere
> else. Will I save money by buying a Finnrail pass? I will use it on
> Sunday, Aug. 4 and Friday, Aug. 10 for sure.

The cost of a 3-day railpass is (or at least was when I bought mine)
something like $2 or $3 more than the cost of the Helsinki-Joensuu
roundtrip.  So the answer is that if you are for sure going nowhere
except one trip to Joensuu from Helsinki and the return to Helsinki, you
would save $2 or $3 by not buying a Finnrail Pass (depending, of course,
on the euro-dollar fluctuations -- although it wasn't the reason I
bought mine a couple of months ago, I do guess that I saved money by
doing so since the euro was lower then than now).  I plan to use my
third day for a same-day excursion somewhere, as yet undetermined.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:28:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01126
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:28:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00130508@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:37:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13289131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:37:56 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1buC10051 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:37:56 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6H1bsoo007224 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:37:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020717013215.7B3B27E3A@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020716183747.00a94b90@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:38:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34C964.10208@swbell.net>

At 08:33 PM 7/16/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Karen Kay wrote:
>
>>Rita Chapman said:
>>
>>>Shall we swim laps at the beach?
>>
>>I do NOT understand people who swim laps at a beach.
>
>
>I'm not *even* going there!

Thank you, Rita.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:30:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01135
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:30:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2D7F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:33:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13288904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:39:33 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1TXC09282 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:29:33 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6H1TWUh026025 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:29:32 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162128560.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:29:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717011523.8E0F07E7B@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>You're not registered as a business?

Since I am not a business, I am not registered as one. How can a
non-business register as a business?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:31:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01139
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:31:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2D85@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:34:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13289188 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:40:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1eTC10256 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:40:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws29-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.29]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6H1eQq22710
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:40:26 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020717001658.404877FCF@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34CB07.1ACA4FC@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:40:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > I don't think it was all that mutant or paranoid of me to
> > think it had had something to do with something I had said and that
> > Karen did not want to hear anything about swimming since it happens not
> > to be something she's into.
>
> I think it was pretty paranoid, to be honest. I don't try to silence
> conversations I don't want to participate in. It was the pointless
> back-and-forth I was thanking Marie for not doing.

The only way I know how to interpret this is that you find discussions
of topics you're not into a "pointless back-and-forth."  Is that
correct?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:33:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01143
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:33:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2D9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:37:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13289280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:42:48 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1gmC10490 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:42:48 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws29-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.29]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6H1gjq23343
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:42:46 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020717002218.811107C38@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34CB8F.267FB341@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:42:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > ignoring it that Karen, the person who goes on and on and on ad nauseum
> > about her exercise routines,
>
> I *never* go on about my exercise routines. I go on about Pilates,
> which is a lot more than what I do.

Oh.  Maybe I was getting your discussions mixed up with erging
discussions.  I delete all of that kind of stuff after the first line.

> > seemed to be suggesting that my one comment
> > about mine was something to be aborted forthwith.
>
> Not your one comment; a long pointless back-and-forth.

Ah, yes.  As I said.  If you're not into it, you find discussions of it,
whatever it is, pointless.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:35:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01150
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:35:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00130575@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:44:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13289320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:44:22 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1iMC10616 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:44:22 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws29-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.29]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6H1iKq23855
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:44:20 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162021520.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34CBF1.1038CE94@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:44:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> It is probably time to move. Yesterday, I received from the Knox
> County Department of Revenue a letter asking that I provide my tax no.,
> the name of my business, and a list of all the owners of my business.

I get mail and phone calls of that kind constantly -- tons of things in
the mail addressing me as "CEO," tons of telephone calls from people
wanting to help with my business, etc. etc.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:39:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01165
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:39:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2DC7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:43:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13289411 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:48:57 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1mvC10965 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:48:57 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws29-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.29]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6H1mrq24999
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:48:54 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020717013450.4E7077E3A@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34CD03.44D8BF0@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:48:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Natalie Maynor said:
> > Daikon in any form (cooked, raw, sliced, chopped, whatever).
>
> Why?!

Wasn't your question about our favorite Japanese vegetables?  My answer
is daikon.  I don't know how to respond to your why.  It's simply my
favorite Japanese vegetable.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:40:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01169
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:40:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2DC8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:44:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13289416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:49:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1nbC11007 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:49:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9C85C7CBE; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:49:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717014936.9C85C7CBE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:49:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162128560.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 16, 2002  9:29:32 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >You're not registered as a business?
>
> Since I am not a business, I am not registered as one. How can a
> non-business register as a business?

I don't understand. If you perform consulting, are you not in the
business of consulting?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:41:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01173
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:41:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2DCD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:44:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13289432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:50:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1oDC11073 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:50:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BED617FCF; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:50:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717015012.BED617FCF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:50:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34CB07.1ACA4FC@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 16,
              2002  8:40:23 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > I don't think it was all that mutant or paranoid of me to
> > > think it had had something to do with something I had said and that
> > > Karen did not want to hear anything about swimming since it happens not
> > > to be something she's into.
> >
> > I think it was pretty paranoid, to be honest. I don't try to silence
> > conversations I don't want to participate in. It was the pointless
> > back-and-forth I was thanking Marie for not doing.
>
> The only way I know how to interpret this is that you find discussions
> of topics you're not into a "pointless back-and-forth."  Is that
> correct?

No. Plenty of topics I'm interested in have pointless back-and-forth.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:42:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01177
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:42:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001305CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:51:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13289460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:51:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1pDC11152 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:51:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DB2C67F8E; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:51:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717015112.DB2C67F8E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:51:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34CB8F.267FB341@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 16,
              2002  8:42:39 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Ah, yes.  As I said.  If you're not into it, you find discussions of it,
> whatever it is, pointless.

Please do not put words in my mouth.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:43:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01181
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:43:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2DDF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:46:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13289483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:52:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H1qVC11239 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:52:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id ECDA27E53; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 18:52:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717015230.ECDA27E53@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:52:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34CD03.44D8BF0@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 16,
              2002  8:48:51 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Natalie Maynor said:
> > > Daikon in any form (cooked, raw, sliced, chopped, whatever).
> >
> > Why?!
>
> Wasn't your question about our favorite Japanese vegetables?

No. I believe I asked for dishes.

> My answer is daikon.  I don't know how to respond to your why.  It's
> simply my favorite Japanese vegetable.

What does it have that American vegetables don't?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:51:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01198
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:51:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2E26@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:55:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13289707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:00:39 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H20dC11874 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:00:39 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws29-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.29]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6H20Zq27912
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:00:36 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020717015112.DB2C67F8E@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34CFC1.D8339F6C@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:00:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > Ah, yes.  As I said.  If you're not into it, you find discussions of it,
> > whatever it is, pointless.
>
> Please do not put words in my mouth.

I'm not.  "Pointless" and "back and forth" were your words.  I don't
quite know what you were expecting re a back-and-forth exchange --
debate on whether one should or shouldn't watch a clock instead of
counting?  I can assure you that my participation in such a discussion
would have been scant since I have not much of an opinion on the subject
and don't really care much about it.  I do the clock thing because it
fits my schedule better to do it that way.  Pointless?  I don't know.
I'd have to witness your dreaded back-and-forth to know whether I
thought it was pointless.

Why do I keep thinking that I am somehow being implicated in an earlier
discussion of laps vs lengths?  I gathered from something Steph said
today that she and Marie don't have the same concept of what a "lap"
means.  Are you perhaps thinking of Steph?  Or some other Wordsler?  I
can promise you that I have never in my life had a <position> on what a
lap was and have not debated that topic.  I do think I might have
introduced it because I remember one time hearing a discussion at a
party where people were talking about swimming and were discussing what
"a lap" meant.  I think I asked on the list and that discussion ensued.
I certainly apologize if I did in fact introduce such a <pointless>
question.  (And, as I mentioned earlier, I didn't remember the answer
Marie had given -- although I did remember that she gave one.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 15:59:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01210
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 15:59:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2E76@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:03:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13289922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:09:01 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H290C12491 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:09:00 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws29-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.29]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6H28vq00073
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:08:58 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020717015230.ECDA27E53@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34D1B7.87DB09C3@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:08:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > Wasn't your question about our favorite Japanese vegetables?
>
> No. I believe I asked for dishes.

And I should trust your memory about a swimming discussion of years
ago?  Here was your question I was responding to (asked at 9:30:39 -0700
on Tue, 16 July 2002):

|What particular vegetable
| things do you like?

> What does it have that American vegetables don't?

I have no idea.  You simply asked about our favorite Japanese
vegetables.  That's mine.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:05:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01223
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:05:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2EB2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:09:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13290115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:15:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H2F7C13189 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:15:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A43AC7F8E; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 19:15:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717021506.A43AC7F8E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:15:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34CFC1.D8339F6C@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 16,
              2002  9: 0:33 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > Ah, yes.  As I said.  If you're not into it, you find discussions of it,
> > > whatever it is, pointless.
> >
> > Please do not put words in my mouth.
>
> I'm not.

Yes, Natalie, you are. You said that I find discusssion of things I'm
not into pointless. I did not say that.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:07:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01230
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:07:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2EBE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:10:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13290150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:16:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H2GTC13337 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:16:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 032957F99; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 19:16:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717021628.032957F99@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:16:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34D1B7.87DB09C3@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 16,
              2002  9: 8:55 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > > Wasn't your question about our favorite Japanese vegetables?
> >
> > No. I believe I asked for dishes.
>
> And I should trust your memory about a swimming discussion of years
> ago?  Here was your question I was responding to (asked at 9:30:39 -0700
> on Tue, 16 July 2002):
>
> |What particular vegetable
> | things do you like?

Right--note that I did not ask for 'vegetables you like'. Vegetable
*thing*.

> You simply asked about our favorite Japanese
> vegetables.

Sigh. No, I didn't.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:09:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01235
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:09:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2EE3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:13:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13290201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:18:50 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H2IoC13532 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:18:50 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZD000VDFRDNT@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:18:50 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207161325530.91485-100000@idiom.com>
Message-ID:  <3D34D3AD.1060903@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:17:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: no more sonc
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

LOL.  True confession: I don't keep track.

Sharon Ziperovich wrote:

> I do!  I sold my house, bought another, but kept a little stack of rainy
> day money aside.  I'm trying to figure out what to do with it.
>
>  Sharon
>
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>OK, everyone I'm taking a poll:  How many of you want me to
>>discuss my financial portfolio in extruciating detail.  Be
>>honest, now.  I know you want to hear all about it.
>>
>>
>>Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm out - the volatility, lack of a dividend, and no. of outstanding
>>>options (what if options are expensed?) persuaded me to sell this morning.
>>>
>>>If the price drops enough, I may buy more shares, perhaps doing again
>>>what I did before - I bought 30 shares and held them through two splits,
>>>ending up with 72.5 (after I bought 5 additional ones).
>>>
>>>Boo-hoo! I miss being a SONC shareholder. But I will enjoy receiving the
>>>fat check that ML will send me. My profit was something like 60-70% (I'll
>>>calculate it later this week to the penny), and I held the original shares
>>>only about 18 months.
>>>
>>>But with luck, I will acquire more shares and make more money on the co. I
>>>still think it is a good company = but certain immediate profits looked
>>>best today. So don't boycott SONC, please!
>>>
>>>(Because I sold another stock at a loss this year, I will have no tax
>>>consequences on this sale.)
>>>
>>>Bethany
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>>rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
>>http://www.etext.org/~rita
>>
>>
>>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:11:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01242
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:10:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2EED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:14:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13290214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:20:11 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H2KBC13670 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:20:11 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6H2K9oo008157 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:20:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207161325530.91485-100000@idiom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020716192001.00a929a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:20:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: no more sonc
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34D3AD.1060903@swbell.net>

Just don't sell at a loss!  That's stupid.

Betty

At 09:17 PM 7/16/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>LOL.  True confession: I don't keep track.
>
>Sharon Ziperovich wrote:
>
>>I do!  I sold my house, bought another, but kept a little stack of rainy
>>day money aside.  I'm trying to figure out what to do with it.
>>
>>  Sharon
>>
>>On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:
>>
>>
>>>OK, everyone I'm taking a poll:  How many of you want me to
>>>discuss my financial portfolio in extruciating detail.  Be
>>>honest, now.  I know you want to hear all about it.
>>>
>>>
>>>Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm out - the volatility, lack of a dividend, and no. of outstanding
>>>>options (what if options are expensed?) persuaded me to sell this morning.
>>>>
>>>>If the price drops enough, I may buy more shares, perhaps doing again
>>>>what I did before - I bought 30 shares and held them through two splits,
>>>>ending up with 72.5 (after I bought 5 additional ones).
>>>>
>>>>Boo-hoo! I miss being a SONC shareholder. But I will enjoy receiving the
>>>>fat check that ML will send me. My profit was something like 60-70% (I'll
>>>>calculate it later this week to the penny), and I held the original shares
>>>>only about 18 months.
>>>>
>>>>But with luck, I will acquire more shares and make more money on the co. I
>>>>still think it is a good company = but certain immediate profits looked
>>>>best today. So don't boycott SONC, please!
>>>>
>>>>(Because I sold another stock at a loss this year, I will have no tax
>>>>consequences on this sale.)
>>>>
>>>>Bethany
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>>>rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
>>>http://www.etext.org/~rita
>>>
>>>
>
>
>--
>Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
>http://www.etext.org/~rita
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:11:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01246
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:11:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2EF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:15:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13290226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:20:46 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H2KkC13699 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:20:46 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6H2Kjoo008055 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:20:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020716192028.00a99680@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:20:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Brad!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

When you get here, let us know.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:15:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01258
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:15:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2F41@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:18:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13290270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:24:19 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H2OJC13943 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:24:19 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws93-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.93]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6H2OFq04253
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:24:16 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020717021628.032957F99@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D34D54D.EB2EEF4A@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:24:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > |What particular vegetable
> > | things do you like?
>
> Right--note that I did not ask for 'vegetables you like'. Vegetable
> *thing*.

Thank you for making me turn off the computer chuckling heartily.  Ah
yes, not a vegetable, a vegetable *thing*.  Both dogs just gave me a
startled look because I really am sitting here laughing out loud.

As I said earlier, my tastes are probably mutant anyway and thus I
shouldn't have been participating in this discussion at all.  I wish you
the best in successful choices of <things>.  Wasn't The Thing a carrot?
Maybe that's what you need to explore?

(I still admit, though, that my favorite <vegetable thing> in Japan was
a bowl of daikon, either cooked or raw.  Even for breakfast if out,
although I didn't eat it for breakfast when at home.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:23:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01267
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:23:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2F66@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:26:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13290362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:32:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H2WXC14491 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:32:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4066F8096; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 19:32:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717023232.4066F8096@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:32:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34D54D.EB2EEF4A@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 16,
              2002  9:24:13 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> (I still admit, though, that my favorite <vegetable thing> in Japan was
> a bowl of daikon, either cooked or raw.  Even for breakfast if out,
> although I didn't eat it for breakfast when at home.)

You're right, your tastes are mutant. My dinner for *er* is going to
have something like 7 courses, and even though the menu isn't set yet,
I'm quite sure none of them will be a bowl of raw daikon.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:37:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01318
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:37:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2FBB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:41:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13290639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:46:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H2kiC15754 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:46:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 661017E5E; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 19:46:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717024643.661017E5E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:46:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34D54D.EB2EEF4A@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 16,
              2002  9:24:13 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> > Right--note that I did not ask for 'vegetables you like'. Vegetable
> > *thing*.
>
> Thank you for making me turn off the computer chuckling heartily.  Ah
> yes, not a vegetable, a vegetable *thing*.  Both dogs just gave me a
> startled look because I really am sitting here laughing out loud.

The interesting part, of course, is that everyone else who answered
understood my intent perfectly. I suspect it had to do with the fact
that all the examples I gave were dishes rather than ingredients, but
I don't know for sure.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:38:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01325
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:38:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001308FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:47:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13290423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:47:27 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H2bRC14912 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:37:27 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6H2bRUh012147 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:37:27 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162236480.27175-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:37:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Natalie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34C9FB.F43DCC84@maynor.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>The cost of a 3-day railpass is (or at least was when I bought mine)
>something like $2 or $3 more than the cost of the Helsinki-Joensuu
>roundtrip.  So the answer is that if you are for sure going nowhere

Thanks! I'll ponder the likelihood that I will want to go somewhere else.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:39:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01330
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:39:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC2FDF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:43:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13290444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:49:05 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H2d4C14998 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:39:05 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6H2d4Uh012796 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:39:04 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162237530.27175-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:39:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34CBF1.1038CE94@maynor.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I get mail and phone calls of that kind constantly -- tons of things in
>the mail addressing me as "CEO," tons of telephone calls from people
>wanting to help with my business, etc. etc.

Come to think of it, I was addressed as "Vice President" once recently
on a subscription offer.

But do you get asked to register by the tax office, Natalie?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:40:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01335
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:40:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3034@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:44:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13290447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:50:03 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H2e2C15062 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:40:02 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6H2e2Uh013027 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:40:02 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162239190.27175-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:40:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717014936.9C85C7CBE@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>I don't understand. If you perform consulting, are you not in the
>business of consulting?

Ah, "the business of" - does that to you equal "owning A BUSINESS"?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:43:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01347
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:43:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013097B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:52:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13291200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:52:31 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H2qVC16594 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:52:31 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6H2qUX29652 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:52:30 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207162150450.29371-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:52:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Karen's Oleander
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717010601.2684B7E59@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> Anyway, he's not at all like oleander.
>
> I'm so glad I proofread! I almost said his name. I'm just an e-oops
> waiting to happen.

And what horrible things would happen if you did?

I just hope it's not Ernst or Gerhardt.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:43:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01351
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:43:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC305A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:47:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13291204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:52:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H2qhC16602 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:52:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AEC517E5E; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 19:52:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717025242.AEC517E5E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:52:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162239190.27175-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 16, 2002 10:40: 2 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >I don't understand. If you perform consulting, are you not in the
> >business of consulting?
>
> Ah, "the business of" - does that to you equal "owning A BUSINESS"?

Performing a business equals owning a business to me. If Natalie had
made this post, I wouldn't have been surprised, but since you made the
post, I *am* surprised because in my mind you do own a business.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:44:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01355
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:44:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013098B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:53:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13291229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:53:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H2rNC16647 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:53:23 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E5A637E68; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 19:53:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717025322.E5A637E68@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:53:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen's Oleander
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207162150450.29371-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 16, 2002  9:52:29 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> And what horrible things would happen if you did?

Y'all would tease me forever and rub my nose in it.

> I just hope it's not Ernst or Gerhardt.

Why?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:47:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01364
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:47:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC30B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:50:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13291495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:56:17 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H2uHC16944 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:56:17 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6H2uF600016 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:56:15 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207162153500.29371-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:56:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717013610.3B87E7D7B@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> I used to go to the beach in Honolulu all the time and see people
> doing laps--particularly at Ala Moana beach. WTF is the point!!!!

Of course since the ocean's so cold here, I never see people swim in it
except to surf.  But if we were in Hawaii and if I wanted to get a good
swimming session in and didn't want to go to a pool, what would you have
me do, besides swim a bit in this direction and swim the same bit in the
opposite direction?

This is purely hypothetical because I never do laps, I just mess around in
the always empty pool at my ma's retirement village.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:49:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01378
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:49:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC30D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:52:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13291592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:58:26 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H2wQC17094 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:58:26 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6H2vX800079 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:57:33 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207162156501.29371-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:57:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34CB07.1ACA4FC@maynor.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> The only way I know how to interpret this is that you find discussions
> of topics you're not into a "pointless back-and-forth."  Is that
> correct?

Natalie, face it, you're the queen of the pointless back-and-forths - and
here you go about to start (if it catches) another!

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:50:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01388
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:50:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC30EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:54:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13291659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:59:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H2xgC17198 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:59:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B0FAA7E5E; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 19:59:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717025941.B0FAA7E5E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:59:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Have you eaten...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tako poke? Was it as good as ahi poke?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:55:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01406
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:55:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00130A56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:05:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13291952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:05:02 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H352C17764 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:05:02 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6H30PG00255 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:00:25 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207162159200.29371-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:00:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: no more sonc
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020716192001.00a929a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

> Just don't sell at a loss!  That's stupid.

UH HUH.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:57:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01413
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:57:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3144@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:01:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13292003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:06:54 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H36sC17878 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:06:54 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6H36rm00715 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:06:53 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207162201520.29371-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:06:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717025242.AEC517E5E@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> Performing a business equals owning a business to me. If Natalie had
> made this post, I wouldn't have been surprised, but since you made the
> post, I *am* surprised because in my mind you do own a business.

Here, context is really important.  Your mind is not.  "Business" is used
in many different laws and regulations.  I have no idea whether Bethany
owns a business or not - you'd have to work from what law/regulation
decides that for the purpose of zoning, tax, etc.

ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:59:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01417
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 16:59:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3153@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:03:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13292044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:08:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H38aC18013 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:08:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 302547FAF; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:08:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717030836.302547FAF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:08:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207162201520.29371-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 16, 2002 10: 6:53 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> > Performing a business equals owning a business to me. If Natalie had
> > made this post, I wouldn't have been surprised, but since you made the
> > post, I *am* surprised because in my mind you do own a business.
>
> Here, context is really important.  Your mind is not.  "Business" is used
> in many different laws and regulations.  I have no idea whether Bethany
> owns a business or not - you'd have to work from what law/regulation
> decides that for the purpose of zoning, tax, etc.

Can you engage in business without owning or running a business? (I'm
just curious, not trying to pick.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:03:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01433
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:03:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3187@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:06:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13292202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:12:11 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3CBC18361 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:12:11 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6H3C9k00970 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:12:09 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207162207240.29371-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:12:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Karen's Oleander
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717025322.E5A637E68@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> > I just hope it's not Ernst or Gerhardt.
>
> Why?

Because I'm in First World War reading mode, maybe. (Reading Testament of
Youth).

I don't know.  Forget it, loose fingers or something.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:04:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01437
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:04:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC318E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:07:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13292215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:13:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3DEC18421 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:13:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A35507DC6; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:13:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717031313.A35507DC6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:13:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen's Oleander
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207162207240.29371-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 16, 2002 10:12: 9 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> > > I just hope it's not Ernst or Gerhardt.
> >
> > Why?
>
> Because I'm in First World War reading mode, maybe. (Reading Testament of
> Youth).

Ah.

> I don't know.  Forget it, loose fingers or something.

:) Loose fingers sink...dingers?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:09:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01442
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:09:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC31C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:13:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13292362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:18:49 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3InC18876 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:18:49 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6H3Ilq01491 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:18:47 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207162212590.29371-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:18:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717030836.302547FAF@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> Can you engage in business without owning or running a business? (I'm
> just curious, not trying to pick.)

It all depends on the definitions of "business"!  And they will be
definitions not dependent on how you understand the term, but how they are
defined for particular purposes.  Bethany apparently does not pay a
municipal "business tax."

Oh shit I'm getting out of this.  I prefer to bullshit, I don't like
feeling responsible for accurate information.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:11:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01449
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:11:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC31C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:14:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13292379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:20:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3KQC19014 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:20:26 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E74997FD0; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:20:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717032025.E74997FD0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:20:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207162212590.29371-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 16, 2002 10:18:47 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> Oh shit I'm getting out of this.  I prefer to bullshit, I don't like
> feeling responsible for accurate information.

:)

So tell me, is gyuuniku negimaki a summer food or not?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:12:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01453
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:12:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC31D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:16:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13292411 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:21:54 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6H3LsC19162 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          23:21:54 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KBY00125; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:21:28 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KLY00097; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:21:27 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <20020717013610.3B87E7D7B@yellow.rahul.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D3455C2.7609.1C4FA9A@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:20:02 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207162153500.29371-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

On 16 Jul 2002 at 21:56, Ann Borkin wrote:

> Of course since the ocean's so cold here, I never see people swim in it
> except to surf.  But if we were in Hawaii and if I wanted to get a good
> swimming session in and didn't want to go to a pool, what would you have
> me do, besides swim a bit in this direction and swim the same bit in the
> opposite direction?

Well, let's see. You could swim across to Molokai'i and take a plane back.
Or you could swim all the way around the island. Both of those would take a
while, though.

   mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:15:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01524
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:15:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00130B46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:24:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13292469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:24:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3OrC19398 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:24:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6D1148017; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:24:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717032452.6D1148017@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:24:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3455C2.7609.1C4FA9A@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 16, 2002  5:20: 2 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 16 Jul 2002 at 21:56, Ann Borkin wrote:
> > Of course since the ocean's so cold here, I never see people swim in it
> > except to surf.  But if we were in Hawaii and if I wanted to get a good
> > swimming session in and didn't want to go to a pool, what would you have
> > me do, besides swim a bit in this direction and swim the same bit in the
> > opposite direction?
>
> Well, let's see. You could swim across to Molokai'i and take a plane back.
> Or you could swim all the way around the island. Both of those would take a
> while, though.

I never saw Ann's original post. What's happening?!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:16:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01528
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:16:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC31EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:20:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13292503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:25:46 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3PjC19516 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:25:45 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6H3PiQ01955 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:25:44 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207162224510.1589-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:25:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717032025.E74997FD0@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> So tell me, is gyuuniku negimaki a summer food or not?

Why not?

You wouldn't put winter onions in it, would you?

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:17:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01532
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:17:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC31F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:21:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13292551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:26:42 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6H3QfC19644 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          23:26:41 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6H3Qfm343638 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 23:26:41 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOECIFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:25:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716153108.F12E97D43@yellow.rahul.net>

> The problem I have is that they don't all offer women's petite
> clothes. The big sizes often assume an overall largeness of body that
> I don't possess. I know that Nordstrom's does, and can't wait till
> they finish building ours.
>
> Karen

True. I don't seem to have the right boobage for a woman of my size. It's
frustrating. Everything is too long (if not in a petite size) and ill
fitting on top. It seems to be getting easier as I'm getting smaller. I love
AVENUE stores but they don't carry much that's dressy or professional.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:17:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01536
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:17:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC31FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:21:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13292561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:26:58 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6H3QwC19663 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          23:26:58 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KBY00697; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:26:44 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KLY00634; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:26:40 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <20020717005616.50C7E8100@yellow.rahul.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D3456FD.11549.1C9C8BB@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:25:17 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162102530.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

On 16 Jul 2002 at 21:03, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> No. She consults, but she does not own a business.

If she gets paid for it, she may well be in business regardless of the semantic
games she wants to play. She would do well to brush up on the local tax
laws.

    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:19:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01544
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:19:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC31FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:22:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13292585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:28:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3SMC19787 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:28:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4251C8087; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:28:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717032821.4251C8087@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:28:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207162224510.1589-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 16, 2002 10:25:44 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> > So tell me, is gyuuniku negimaki a summer food or not?
>
> Why not?
>
> You wouldn't put winter onions in it, would you?

No. I have a feeling beef is a winter food, though.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:20:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01548
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:20:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00130BF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:29:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13293466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:29:04 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6H3T3C20106 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          23:29:03 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6H3T2m44932 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          23:29:03 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOECJFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:28:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716154826.98DFE8014@yellow.rahul.net>

> But
> what really depressed and upset me is that last night MNF said that
> even if I get *er* and his buds to fix the boat, he'd rather sell it
> than sail it. I don't want to sell it if I can sail it. Jeeze, not
> after all this!
>
> > What about selling the damn thing?
>
> We agreed to do this a few months ago, at MNF's instigation--but then
> he didn't do anything about it, and I didn't notice right away.
>
> Karen

When seeing more than one man...it nearly always gets complex. I think men
juggle better than women do. I'm terrible at it. I try not to do it; at the
risk of getting too hung up on a guy who isn't looking for a monogamous
relationship. Tricky waters.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:23:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01556
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:23:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC35AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:26:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13294717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:29:48 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3TmC20520 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:29:48 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020717032942.QJPI29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 03:29:42 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716202137.01f8e6c0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:25:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Have you eaten...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717025941.B0FAA7E5E@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen Kay writes,

>Tako poke? Was it as good as ahi poke?

No.

Besides, I think octopuses are too intelligent to eat.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:23:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01566
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:23:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3671@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:27:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13295208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:30:06 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6H3U5C20734 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          23:30:06 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6H3U4m453960 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 23:30:05 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACECKFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:29:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet and ATTENTION ROY and STEPH
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716155000.B2FD57F45@yellow.rahul.net>

> I like the way the Junonia clothes look, but I've never ordered
> anything from them.
>
> Karen

Junonia has nice stuff. I've purchased from them. There is a lot of Junonia
stuff (never used) sold on eBay. I think one of their employees unloads via
eBay.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:24:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01570
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:24:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00130D40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:33:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13295463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:30:16 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3UGC20822 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:30:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 501F07FD0; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:30:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717033015.501F07FD0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:30:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOECIFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 16, 2002  8:25:51 pm"

S Hess said:
> > The problem I have is that they don't all offer women's petite
> > clothes. The big sizes often assume an overall largeness of body that
> > I don't possess. I know that Nordstrom's does, and can't wait till
> > they finish building ours.
> >
> > Karen
>
> True. I don't seem to have the right boobage for a woman of my size. It's
> frustrating. Everything is too long (if not in a petite size) and ill
> fitting on top. It seems to be getting easier as I'm getting smaller. I love
> AVENUE stores but they don't carry much that's dressy or professional.

Nope. I did better at the dept store in the mall (Foley's), but still
nothing fit.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:24:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01574
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:24:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC372C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:28:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13296100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:30:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3UnC21149 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:30:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id ECBD57FFB; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:30:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717033048.ECBD57FFB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:30:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3456FD.11549.1C9C8BB@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 16, 2002  5:25:17 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 16 Jul 2002 at 21:03, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
> > No. She consults, but she does not own a business.
>
> If she gets paid for it, she may well be in business regardless of the semantic
> games she wants to play. She would do well to brush up on the local tax
> laws.

That's what surprised me. I thought it was clear cut.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:24:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01578
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:24:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00130D8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:34:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13296199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:31:22 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6H3VMC21268 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          23:31:22 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KBY01125; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:31:11 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KLY01068; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:31:10 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D34D54D.EB2EEF4A@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 16,
            2002  9:24:13 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D34580C.8416.1CDE8BE@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:29:48 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717024643.661017E5E@yellow.rahul.net>

On 16 Jul 2002 at 19:46, Karen Kay wrote:

> The interesting part, of course, is that everyone else who answered
> understood my intent perfectly. I suspect it had to do with the fact
> that all the examples I gave were dishes rather than ingredients, but I
> don't know for sure.

Any other day, I would not have ventured a favorite. I don't eat much Japanese food. Today, however,  I had lunch at Kyo-ya at
someone else's expense. I chose something called butterfish. What the heck is that? It seemed to have been cooked in a miso-
based sauce or something. Quite good.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:24:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01582
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:24:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3749@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:28:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13296216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:31:57 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6H3VuC21301 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          23:31:57 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6H3Vum58418 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          23:31:56 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGECKFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:31:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716164408.E207880F4@yellow.rahul.net>

LL Bean carries some women sizes now. I think that is new.

Sandra
>
> alyce cresap said:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > The problem I have is that they don't all offer women's petite
> > > clothes.
> >
> > How about Land's End? They have petites, I think. Plain tailored stuff.
>
> Do they have petites in women's sizes? That's new. Too expensive for
> right now, but I'll look into it.
>
> Karen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:24:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01586
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:24:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC374D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:28:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13296226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:32:08 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3W7C21360 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:32:07 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-16.panax.com [63.163.42.16])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3W6j06229 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:32:06 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020716154826.98DFE8014@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716233117.00a1a140@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:31:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOECJFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

>risk of getting too hung up on a guy who isn't looking for a monogamous
>relationship. Tricky waters.
>Sandra

Which reminds me, where's Janet??


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:26:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01594
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:26:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3767@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:30:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13296350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:35:46 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6H3ZkC21707 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          23:35:46 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6H3Zjm125028 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 23:35:45 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAECLFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:34:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Today's story about *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F120guOi6taaXM1ZbyM00012e9c@hotmail.com>

> >Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > > > I find it sweet and surprising that 45 years later he rediscovered
> > > > this woman he was married to before. I think it's sweet
> that it was so
> > > > good that this woman came for 3 days and stayed for 18. It's not
> > > > funny, but it made me laugh because it's all so unexpected.
> > >
> > > It's not the first time people have gotten married again to each other
> > > after many years and spouses.
>
> I know a couple who were high school sweethearts who broke up in
> their late
> teens, than reconnected in their late thirties, both divorced.
> They are now
> married, and sickeningly-sweetly in love. It's a beautiful thing.
>
> Marie
>    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com

One of my very closest friends is marrying her high school sweetheart.
Actually she grew up with him in So. Cal. He has been in jail for most of
the last 25 yrs. I'd say more but it's rather secret right now and his case
is rather famous. I'll say more when it's public or after the fact or such.
Not that I think any of you would care. I'm just respecting their decision.
He gets out from jail mid-sept and she's going to marry him in Oct. I think
it's a recipe for disaster. He needs plenty of time to acclimate to being
outside. When he went in, 8tracks were still in and cassette tape had just
been introduced. There was a period of time during which he was, ummmm, an
escapee, but basically he's been behind bars for over 25 yrs.

Sch.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:26:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01598
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:26:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC376B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:30:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13296359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:36:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3a3C21736 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:36:03 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CE2297C81; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:36:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717033602.CE2297C81@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:36:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOECJFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 16, 2002  8:28:13 pm"

S Hess said:
> > But
> > what really depressed and upset me is that last night MNF said that
> > even if I get *er* and his buds to fix the boat, he'd rather sell it
> > than sail it. I don't want to sell it if I can sail it. Jeeze, not
> > after all this!
> >
> > > What about selling the damn thing?
> >
> > We agreed to do this a few months ago, at MNF's instigation--but then
> > he didn't do anything about it, and I didn't notice right away.
> >
> > Karen
>
> When seeing more than one man...it nearly always gets complex.

The complexity of my situation has little to do with the gender of the
parties involved. MNF wouldn't want to sail the boat whether *er*
helped me fix it or not. I simply underestimated the depth of his lost
enthusiasm. (And in fact still don't understand it.)

> I think men juggle better than women do. I'm terrible at it. I try
> not to do it; at the risk of getting too hung up on a guy who isn't
> looking for a monogamous relationship. Tricky waters.

I have no problem with seeing more than one person.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:27:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01602
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:27:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC376D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:31:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13296364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:36:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3aoC21756 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:36:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 925597EF6; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:36:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717033649.925597EF6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:36:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Have you eaten...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716202137.01f8e6c0@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Jul 16, 2002  8:25:23 pm"

Peter Kaminski said:
> Karen Kay writes,
> >Tako poke? Was it as good as ahi poke?
>
> No.
>
> Besides, I think octopuses are too intelligent to eat.

Really?!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:29:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01606
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:29:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3779@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:32:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13296400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:38:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3cLC21870 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:38:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 47F017D18; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:38:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717033821.47F017D18@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:38:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34580C.8416.1CDE8BE@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 16, 2002  5:29:48 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> Any other day, I would not have ventured a favorite. I don't eat much Japanese food. Today, however,  I had lunch at Kyo-ya at
> someone else's expense. I chose something called butterfish. What the heck is that? It seemed to have been cooked in a miso-
> based sauce or something. Quite good.

I just saw a recipe for this. I'm quite sure there's no non-frozen
butterfish in Austin.

Damn. I'm getting hungry!:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:29:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01610
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:29:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC377D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:33:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13296415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:39:05 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3d4C21910 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:39:04 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020717033859.QUFV29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 03:38:59 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D34CD03.44D8BF0@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716202000.02430e10@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:33:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717015230.ECDA27E53@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen Kay writes,

>What does it have that American vegetables don't?

It makes a great pickle with rice bran and salt.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:31:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01622
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:31:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00130DF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:40:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13296457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:40:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3efC22012 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:40:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 949AD7C06; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:40:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717034040.949AD7C06@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:40:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716202000.02430e10@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Jul 16, 2002  8:33:23 pm"

Peter Kaminski said:
> Karen Kay writes,
> >What does it have that American vegetables don't?
>
> It makes a great pickle with rice bran and salt.

But so does cabbage--and that's an American vegetable.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:35:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01626
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:34:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00130E16@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:44:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13296560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:44:09 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6H3i8C22285 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          23:44:08 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6H3i8m332850 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul
          2002 23:44:08 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAECNFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:43:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716215413.4AF26802C@yellow.rahul.net>

ramen

Sch.

> bonniev said:
> > >   your favorite Japanese food, excluding noodles, sushi, sashimi, and
> > >   one-pot dishes?
> >
> > Mac and cheese.
>
> Sorry, that's a one-pot dish.
>
> Karen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:35:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01633
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:35:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC37AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:39:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13296568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:44:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H3iwC22306 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:44:58 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 14A3C7D18; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 20:44:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717034458.14A3C7D18@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:44:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAECNFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 16, 2002  8:43:18 pm"

S Hess said:
> ramen

Also a one-pot dish...

> > bonniev said:
> > > >   your favorite Japanese food, excluding noodles, sushi, sashimi, and
> > > >   one-pot dishes?
> > >
> > > Mac and cheese.
> >
> > Sorry, that's a one-pot dish.
> >
> > Karen
> >
>

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:37:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01637
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:37:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00130E31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:46:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13296615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:46:52 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6H3kqC22441 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:46:52 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA23853
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          20:46:51 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 75F7497005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:46:50 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 23846 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2002 03:46:49 -0000
Received: from p06.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.53?) (66.237.73.53) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 17 Jul 2002 03:46:49 -0000
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130302b95a846d7e77@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:46:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      IMFTATL, and a request for references: Dreamweaver and Coldfusion
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

For the purposes of this message and any ensuing thread, I would appreciate
it if people would ignore my previous workplace lament.

We (my workplace as a whole) are going to be using a ColdFusion server of
some sort for delivering up dynamically-generated web pages (for our
primary web site).  We have ColdFusion Server 5 but may consider upgrading
to MX.

Our chief concern at the moment is deciding which development tools to use.
Macromedia has not made this choice any easier by completely revamping its
product line in the last few weeks.

My question is for those of you who deal with these things: what are your
collective experiences using one or more of the following:
    Dreamweaver 4
    Ultradev 4
    ColdFusion Studio 5
    Dreamweaver MX
with one or more of the following:
    ColdFusion Server 5
    ColdFusion MX

Anything you want to mention would be of interest.  And, of course, you may
reply to me rather than the list if you think it appropriate.

If, in addition, you happen to know people who wouldn't mind being called
up and asked about their experiences with a combination of these products,
that would be appreciated; of course, no one would be contacted without
their prior consent.

Ken Miller
Systems Annalist
Babbage Engine Works

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:41:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01649
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:41:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC37DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:45:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13296712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 23:50:46 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6H3ojC22708 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          23:50:45 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6H3ojm92558 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          23:50:45 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKECNFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:49:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716233117.00a1a140@pop3.norton.antivirus>

Juggling.

Sch.

> >risk of getting too hung up on a guy who isn't looking for a monogamous
> >relationship. Tricky waters.
> >Sandra
>
> Which reminds me, where's Janet??
>
>
>     --bonniev
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:59:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01677
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 17:59:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3AA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 0:03:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13298302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 00:07:20 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6H426C24212 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          00:02:06 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KBY03787; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:01:48 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KLY03469; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:01:47 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D345F38.14313.1E9EDC0@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:00:24 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL,
              and a request for references: Dreamweaver and Coldfusion
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130302b95a846d7e77@[198.144.202.197]>

On 16 Jul 2002 at 20:46, Bookrat wrote:

> My question is for those of you who deal with these things: what are your
> collective experiences using one or more of the following:
>     Dreamweaver 4
>     Ultradev 4
>     ColdFusion Studio 5
>     Dreamweaver MX
> with one or more of the following:
>     ColdFusion Server 5
>     ColdFusion MX

I don't have any experience with the ColdFusion server, but I can't think of any reason not to choose the latest products. With Dreamweaver MX, DW4
and Ultradev are obsolete. The functions formerly added by Ultradev are now part of DW MX. Essentially, this means the interface to databases, which
is probably what you're looking for. If you're going to have the MX development tools, it makes sense to have the MX server version too. DW is a great
program, and it's dirt cheap at the educational prices. The DW Studio package throws in Fireworks, Flash, and Freehand 10 all for about $200.

    me

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:00:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01688
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 18:00:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3AC9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 0:03:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13298915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 00:07:29 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H46TC24839 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:06:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3C1B97FD0; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:06:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717040628.3C1B97FD0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:06:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Japanese Fish Recipe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Microwaved. But I'm intrigued--it looks good.
http://www.therecipebox.com/members/box/fish/fis0185.htm

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:00:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01694
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 18:00:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3AF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 0:03:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13299176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 00:08:08 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6H488C25065 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:08:08 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA26291
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          21:08:06 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E337597005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:08:05 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 26287 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2002 04:08:04 -0000
Received: from p06.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.53?) (66.237.73.53) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 17 Jul 2002 04:08:04 -0000
References: <20020716174447.D316B8239@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130307b95a8999b567@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:08:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207161106570.83593-100000@idiom.com>

>I sent that before I got to the more recent postings. I think he did
>describe it. In a car, in front of a restaurant?  But the really
>interesting thing to know would be how the whole topic came up.  The
>bit of conversation just before "Would you like to see my breasts?" "Yes,
>please." would be the most fun part.
>
>  Sharon

I don't know what possessed her to ask me that question.  Here's how it
happened:

As part of her farewell-to-the-Bay-Area rounds, she had taken me to dinner
at a Hunan restaurant in San Jose, where we dished the list and rehashed
old times.  We left, and got into her car.  As I was buckling up my seat
bealt, she said, in a light-hearted tone of voice, "Hey! Do you want to see
my breasts?"

Now, I want it to be understood that not even for the tiniest fraction of a
second did I take this as a literal offer.  However, wrack my brain as I
might, I could not imagine what Karen *did* mean by that, and while I was
trying to puzzle it out, I lost the opportunity for a clever rejoinder or
two.  After several seconds had galloped by, she reached into the detritus
under the passenger seat and pulled up a manila envelope.  She undid the
clasp -- on the envelope, that is -- opened it, and handed me -- what else?
-- the mammograms that she had picked up from her radiologist earlier that
day.

Ken Miller
Department of Diegesis
Gilbert G. Smith School of Historiography

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:00:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01698
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 18:00:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00131064@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 0:10:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13299357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 00:10:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H4A8C25507 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:10:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 41BC27F10; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:10:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717041007.41BC27F10@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:10:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL,
              and a request for references: Dreamweaver and Coldfusion
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D345F38.14313.1E9EDC0@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 16, 2002  6: 0:24 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> program, and it's dirt cheap at the educational prices. The DW Studio package throws in Fireworks, Flash, and Freehand 10 all for about $200.

I thought the educational package wasn't fully functional? (My friend
Lydia is taking a class.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:05:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01707
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 18:05:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3B8D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 0:08:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13299701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 00:14:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H4ESC26053 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:14:28 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5A27F7F99; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:14:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717041427.5A27F7F99@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:14:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130307b95a8999b567@[198.144.202.197]> from Bookrat at "Jul
              16, 2002  9: 8: 0 pm"

Bookrat said:
> I don't know what possessed her to ask me that question.

Nor do I. It was a spur-of-the-moment thing that I seem to have gotten
an enormous amount of mileage out of.

But I wouldn't have asked just anyone, you know.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:09:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01717
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 18:09:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001310E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 0:18:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13299898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 00:18:41 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H4IeC26484 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:18:40 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020717041835.OBFD6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:18:35 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020716202137.01f8e6c0@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716203911.027a18e0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:15:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Have you eaten...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717033649.925597EF6@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen Kay writes,

>Really?!

On the order of a rat, racoon or cat, they say.

My squeamishness is probably a side effect of living in California too
long, of course.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:09:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01724
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 18:09:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001310E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 0:18:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13299904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 00:18:54 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6H4IsC26492 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:18:54 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA27614
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          21:18:53 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C81697005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:18:52 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 27610 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2002 04:18:51 -0000
Received: from p06.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.53?) (66.237.73.53) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 17 Jul 2002 04:18:51 -0000
References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.1020716123323.8746A-100000@foxtrot>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130313b95a8ff13307@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:18:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34A398.619EAC3E@maynor.net>

>> And suppose that a year from now this person
>> might be writing half of one's job evalution?
>
>He/she might be moving to you, or you might be moving to him/her?
>
>--
> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

In the words of one of my cow orkers, "We're all going to be one big
fucking happy family."

Let's just say that I empathize with the employees of the former
Hewlett-Packard and Compaq companies.

Ken Miller
Department of Graunching

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:10:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01728
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 18:10:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3BD2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 0:14:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13299940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 00:19:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H4JoC26596 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:19:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8A4237E89; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:19:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717041949.8A4237E89@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:19:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Have you eaten...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716203911.027a18e0@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Jul 16, 2002  9:15: 2 pm"

Peter Kaminski said:
> Karen Kay writes,
> >Really?!
>
> On the order of a rat, racoon or cat, they say.
>
> My squeamishness is probably a side effect of living in California too
> long, of course.

Still.

I'm sorry I asked.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:15:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01732
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 18:14:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3BF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 0:18:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13300053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 00:24:08 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6H4O7C26910 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          00:24:08 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KCA00255; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:22:55 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KMA00178; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:22:28 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D345F38.14313.1E9EDC0@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
            "Jul 16, 2002  6: 0:24 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D346411.17670.1FCDF39@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:21:05 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL,
              and a request for references: Dreamweaver and Coldfusion
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717041007.41BC27F10@yellow.rahul.net>

On 16 Jul 2002 at 21:10, Karen Kay wrote:

> I thought the educational package wasn't fully functional? (My friend
> Lydia is taking a class.)

Absolutely untrue.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:19:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01746
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 18:19:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3C27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 0:23:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13300243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 00:28:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H4SbC27365 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:28:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3CFDE7F5B; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 21:26:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717042647.3CFDE7F5B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:26:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL,
              and a request for references: Dreamweaver and Coldfusion\
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D346411.17670.1FCDF39@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 16, 2002  6:21: 5 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 16 Jul 2002 at 21:10, Karen Kay wrote:
> > I thought the educational package wasn't fully functional? (My friend
> > Lydia is taking a class.)
>
> Absolutely untrue.

Okay.

We talked on the phone about this, but now I'm thinking that she must
have been reporting what one of her friends said, not her own
experience.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:21:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01753
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 18:21:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3C3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 0:25:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13300317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 00:31:00 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6H4V0C27563 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:31:00 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA29416
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          21:30:59 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B965B97012 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:30:22 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 29275 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2002 04:30:21 -0000
Received: from p06.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.53?) (66.237.73.53) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 17 Jul 2002 04:30:21 -0000
References: <3D33465B.CF59746C@uclink.berkeley.edu>; from
            bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU on Mon, Jul 15,
            2002 at 03:02:03PM -0700
            <20020715213831.8743B7D98@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D33465B.CF59746C@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130301b959bd1ef28f@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:30:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716090451.A20868@yoccoz.multinix.com>

>= But would you date him?
>=
>= Betty
>
>Only if he grows back his beard.
>
>steph

Strangely enough, I am in the process of doing exactly this.  But not for
dating purposes.  It's just that I hate shaving, and if my job
reclassification goes through I won't need to be looking for another job
for at least six months.

Ken Miller
Fashion Correspondent
The Lostin Times

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:42:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01782
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 18:42:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3CB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 0:45:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13300747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 00:51:27 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6H4pRC28990 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:51:27 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA02788
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          21:51:26 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D1BFE97005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:51:25 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 2784 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2002 04:51:24 -0000
Received: from p06.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.53?) (66.237.73.53) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 17 Jul 2002 04:51:24 -0000
References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.1020716123323.8746A-100000@foxtrot>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v0313030cb95a8d288b88@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:51:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: dhtml
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000301c22d06$290ce5c0$48305b80@EAGLE72>

>> Furthermore, suppose that this person
>> was seriously arguing that it would be easier to maintain a very large
>> website using mostly static DHTML pages instead of using a
>> database-driven solution?
>
>Explain to him or her your opinion!

And if he or she Knows Everything, and is used to having his or her word
taken as Unquestioned Law?  And seems to have the political will of his or
her organization behind this belief?

>> And suppose that a year from now this person
>> might be writing half of one's job evalution?
>>
>
>Evals are over-rated.
>
>alec

That depends on whether or not one has money riding on the outcome.  I
currently have a promotion in the offing, and a 25% increase in one's
paycheck is something few of us have the privilege of blowing off.

And even if that weren't the case, well, around here, the rules change year
to year (or rather, contract to contract, contracts being typically for 2
years at a time).  Five years ago, there were a few people in my
organization who got a tidy 5% increase in their salary for having top-rate
evaluations.  That's never happened since, but you never know when it will
happen again.  And establishing a high baseline is important, just in case
next year's bungee boss has it in for you.

Ken Miller
Bacon School of Machiavellian Studies

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:59:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01806
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 18:59:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3DB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 1:03:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13301568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 01:09:00 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6H590C30472 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 01:09:00 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA04798
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Tue, 16 Jul 2002
          22:08:59 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CEAA97007 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:08:58 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 4793 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2002 05:08:57 -0000
Received: from p06.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.53?) (66.237.73.53) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 17 Jul 2002 05:08:57 -0000
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207162201520.29371-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from  
            Ann Borkin at "Jul 16, 2002 10: 6:53 pm"
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130316b95aa9c34415@[66.237.73.53]>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:08:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717030836.302547FAF@yellow.rahul.net>

>> Here, context is really important.  Your mind is not.  "Business" is used
>> in many different laws and regulations.  I have no idea whether Bethany
>> owns a business or not - you'd have to work from what law/regulation
>> decides that for the purpose of zoning, tax, etc.
>
>Can you engage in business without owning or running a business? (I'm
>just curious, not trying to pick.)
>
>Karen

You can take money from other people for performing services for them
without officially owning or running a business.  Whether or not it makes
financial sense for you to do so (let alone the legal issues) is another
question.

During my brief and quixotic stint as a part-time book scout I had both a
DBA (legal business name), and a California Reseller's Permit, which
enabled me to buy books (for resale only) without paying state sales tax,
both of which would have been good financial moves had I actually stayed in
the trade.  But incorporating as a business?  That would have been a much
more complicated kettle of fish altogether.

Ken Miller
Bunthorne School of Ergophobic Studies

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 19:01:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01825
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 19:01:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3DB5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 1:04:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13301577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 01:10:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H5AXC30557 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 01:10:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 96F0D7F5C; Tue, 16
          Jul 2002 22:10:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717051032.96F0D7F5C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:10:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130316b95aa9c34415@[66.237.73.53]> from Bookrat at "Jul 16,
              2002 10: 8:51 pm"

Bookrat said:
> You can take money from other people for performing services for them
> without officially owning or running a business.  Whether or not it makes
> financial sense for you to do so (let alone the legal issues) is another
> question.
>
> During my brief and quixotic stint as a part-time book scout I had both a
> DBA (legal business name), and a California Reseller's Permit, which
> enabled me to buy books (for resale only) without paying state sales tax,
> both of which would have been good financial moves had I actually stayed in
> the trade.  But incorporating as a business?  That would have been a much
> more complicated kettle of fish altogether.

Right. I'm not suggesting Bethany is incorporated without knowing it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 19:27:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01950
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 19:27:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC3E1A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 1:31:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13301933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 01:36:51 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6H5apC32128 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          01:36:51 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KCC01254; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 01:36:11 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KMC01134; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 01:36:05 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D346411.17670.1FCDF39@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
            "Jul 16, 2002  6:21: 5 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D347553.10512.2404876@localhost>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:34:43 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: IMFTATL,
              and a request for references: Dreamweaver and Coldfusion\
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717042647.3CFDE7F5B@yellow.rahul.net>

On 16 Jul 2002 at 21:26, Karen Kay wrote:

> We talked on the phone about this, but now I'm thinking that she must have
> been reporting what one of her friends said, not her own experience.

If there's any difference at all, it's likely to be in the amount of printed
documentation and ancillary goodies that might be in the commercial box.
Also, I don't think you can use the education version, which is clearly marked
as such, to get the upgrade price on a new commercial version. It is definitely
not limited in functionality. I've been through three versions of DW and two or
three versions of Fireworks, and I just don't think the programs are limited in
any way.

     mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 19:33:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01965
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 19:33:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001314A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 1:42:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13302016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 01:42:11 -0400
Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6H5gAC32451 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          01:42:10 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6H5g9m88160 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          01:42:10 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEDBFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:41:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Winner of Worst Writing
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Maybe Myles knows this woman.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P65716841

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 20:09:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02113
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 20:09:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC400B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 2:13:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13303912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 02:19:02 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H6J1C04150 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 02:19:01 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020717061856.CWQ24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 06:18:56 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020716103507.026c4920@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716230645.021a6e30@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:15:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: CD Q
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716203802.0A1F480B2@yellow.rahul.net>

BTW, another musician has written an essay arguing that "free Internet
downloads are good for the music industry and its artists."  For an
artist-oriented music industry, anyway :-).

Janis Ian, <http://www.janisian.com/article-internet_debacle.html>.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 21:58:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA02550
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 21:58:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC41BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 4:01:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13305627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 04:07:24 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H87NC11465 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:07:24 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTRY3>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:07:22 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTRYN; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:07:15 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <F634hJzp7kaLl6RmonD00015f22@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020717100646.03400790@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:07:10 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet and ATTENTION ROY and STEPH
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000101c22cdf$eb41ea90$48305b80@EAGLE72>

11:46 16.07.2002 -0400 skrev Alec D. Plotkin:
>The most recent Heide news is, she is feeling much better. Getting an
>MRI every three months and growing stronger. She has started working as
>a temp for ING. or http://www.ingvariableannuities.com/ For those who
>don't know, ING is a very large Dutch financial services firm.

Great!

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:00:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA02571
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 22:00:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC41C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 4:04:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13305655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 04:09:53 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H89rC11582 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:09:53 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTRY4>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:09:52 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTRYT; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:09:44 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020717100733.00be3ea0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:09:39 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Edinburgh or ITMFTATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F198ZqWw7T8VyRfAG0e000160ce@hotmail.com>

I now have tickets and accommodation in Edinburgh in early September. First
four days of conference then Ingjerd comes over and we have three days
together there. I have been in Ediburgh for 5 hours once before and visited
the castle. We will probably do that again but I am open for further
suggestions.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:03:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA02576
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 22:03:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC41D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 4:06:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13305701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 04:12:03 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H8C3C11771 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:12:03 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTRY7>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:12:02 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTRY6; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:11:54 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020717101136.03403748@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:11:49 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716163039.0C6D17F26@yellow.rahul.net>

09:30 16.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>*er* fixed my lawnmower transformer, which saved me megabucks, and in
>  return, he asked me to design a Japanese meal that we could cook
>  together. I'm still playing with the menu, but I'm wondering, what's
>  your favorite Japanese food, excluding noodles, sushi, sashimi, and
>  one-pot dishes? Do you like seaweed salad? What particular vegetable
>  things do you like?

Tempura.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:15:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA02641
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 22:15:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00131B73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 4:24:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13305809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 04:24:28 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H8ORC12459 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:24:27 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTR51>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:24:26 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTR5D; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:24:20 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D341A4E.D47304A8@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020717102324.033f94c0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:24:15 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SUN.3.96.1020716123323.8746A-100000@foxtrot>

12:44 16.07.2002 -0700 skrev Bookrat:
>I normally don't do personal email from work, but I just had to get this
>off my chest and my cow orkers are all out at lunch.
>
>What would you think of someone who thinks that, because a website has a
>lot of frequently-changing content (i.e., is dynamic), it should therefore
>be written in DHTML (Dynamic HTML)?  Furthermore, suppose that this person
>was seriously arguing that it would be easier to maintain a very large
>website using mostly static DHTML pages instead of using a database-driven
>solution?

What is it with DHTML which should make it any good at all?


>Now, suppose that this person were the IT director at a very large
>metropolitan public library?  And suppose that a year from now this person
>might be writing half of one's job evalution?

Peace. May the force be with you.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:18:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA02650
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 22:18:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4205@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 4:21:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13305844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 04:27:10 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H8R9C12610 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:27:09 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTR5K>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:27:08 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTR52; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:26:57 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020717102617.0340f270@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:26:51 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: WTG Norway!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F180lcXMBPWz0HtSgXz00016738@hotmail.com>

15:07 16.07.2002 -0500 skrev Anne Toal:
>http://news.com.com/2100-1001-944151.html

There is a move towards using Linux in schools here but I am not sure how
far it has come yet.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:22:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA02673
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 22:22:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00131BAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 4:31:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13305876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 04:31:31 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H8VVC12851 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:31:31 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTR54>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:31:30 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTR5T; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:31:19 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020717103100.033f8500@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:31:13 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716212959.B0F25819B@yellow.rahul.net>

14:29 16.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>How could I get *ELEVEN* holes in one t-shirt and a) not have a cat
>and b) not notice????

Do you have a rabbit?

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:29:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA02702
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 22:29:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4226@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 4:32:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13305937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 04:38:13 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H8cDC13194 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:38:13 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTR6M>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:38:12 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTR6L; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:38:07 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020717103652.033fd118@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:37:58 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Natalie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162005400.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu >

20:10 16.07.2002 -0400 skrev Bethany K. Dumas:
>I have decided not to rent a car and not to hitchhike. I will need to take
>the train from Helsinki to Joensuu and back - and maybe go somewhere
>else. Will I save money by buying a Finnrail pass? I will use it on
>Sunday, Aug. 4 and Friday, Aug. 10 for sure.
>
>I am planning to take a taxi to Valamo from Joensuu on Aug 4 and back to
>Joensuu on Aug. 7 (Wed morning - for the excursion - I hope it does not
>leave too early - I need to check the website again to see if times are
>available).

I have never been to (New) Valamo but for some reason or other I believed
it was pretty far (=expensive) for a taxi.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:37:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA02761
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1960 22:37:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC425C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 4:41:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13306101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 04:46:37 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H8kaC13910 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:46:36 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6H8pib24982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:51:44
          +0200
References: <F198ZqWw7T8VyRfAG0e000160ce@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020717100733.00be3ea0@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020717105144.A24972@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:51:44 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh or ITMFTATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020717100733.00be3ea0@victoria.nb.no>; from
              Espen.Ore@NB.NO on Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 10:09:39AM +0200

= together there. I have been in Ediburgh for 5 hours once before and visited
= the castle. We will probably do that again but I am open for further
= suggestions.
=
= Espen

I really enjoyed the camera obscura by the castle.  It looks like
a very hokey tourist trap, but it really is quite cool.  You
should do it near the end of the trip so you have more of a feel
for the city.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 00:58:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA03430
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 00:58:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00132272@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 7:07:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13306781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:07:34 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HAvXC22923 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 06:57:33 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HAvXUh027906 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 06:57:33 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170656010.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 06:57:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717025242.AEC517E5E@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>Performing a business equals owning a business to me. If Natalie had
>made this post, I wouldn't have been surprised, but since you made the
>post, I *am* surprised because in my mind you do own a business.

Interesting, So if somebody saya, "I am not in the business of solving
other peoples' problems," you would know that they do not own a
problem-solving business?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 01:00:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03440
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 01:00:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC450F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 7:03:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13306805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:09:15 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HAxEC23080 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 06:59:15 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HAxEUh028243 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 06:59:14 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170658160.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 06:59:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717030836.302547FAF@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>Can you engage in business without owning or running a business? (I'm
>just curious, not trying to pick.)

OKay - so what exactly IS "a business"? That's the question, I think.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 01:02:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03446
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 01:02:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4522@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 7:05:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13306824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:11:18 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HB1IC04241 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:01:18 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HB1IUh028775 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:01:18 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170700000.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:01:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3456FD.11549.1C9C8BB@localhost>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Michael E. Macmillan wrote:

>On 16 Jul 2002 at 21:03, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>
>> No. She consults, but she does not own a business.
>
>If she gets paid for it, she may well be in business regardless of the semantic
>games she wants to play. She would do well to brush up on the local tax
>laws.

Interesting. If I own a business because I occasionally get paid for
consulting work, then at least half the professors at UT - and
probably a higher percentage elsewhere - own a business.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 01:03:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03451
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 01:03:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC452F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 7:07:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13306916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:12:43 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HB2gC04577 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:02:42 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HB2gUh029034 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:02:42 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170702030.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:02:42 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGECKFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, S Hess wrote:

>LL Bean carries some women sizes now. I think that is new.

They have done that for some time. What is new is that they are now the
same price as the others.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 01:05:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03470
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 01:04:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001322CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 7:13:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13306967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:13:58 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HB3wC04716 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:03:58 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HB3vUh029326 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:03:57 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170703190.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:03:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717033602.CE2297C81@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>The complexity of my situation has little to do with the gender of the
>parties involved. MNF wouldn't want to sail the boat whether *er*
>helped me fix it or not. I simply underestimated the depth of his lost
>enthusiasm. (And in fact still don't understand it.)

I think you should consider getting out of the business of fixing boats.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 01:05:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03474
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 01:05:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001322CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 7:14:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13307231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:14:11 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HBEBC05956 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:14:11 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6HBJJf25272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:19:19
          +0200
References: <3D3456FD.11549.1C9C8BB@localhost>
            <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170700000.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020717131919.A25260@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:19:19 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170700000.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>; from
              dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU on Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 07:01:18AM -0400

On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 07:01:18AM -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
= On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Michael E. Macmillan wrote:
=
= >On 16 Jul 2002 at 21:03, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
= >
= >> No. She consults, but she does not own a business.
= >
= >If she gets paid for it, she may well be in business regardless of the semantic
= >games she wants to play. She would do well to brush up on the local tax
= >laws.
=
= Interesting. If I own a business because I occasionally get paid for
= consulting work, then at least half the professors at UT - and
= probably a higher percentage elsewhere - own a business.
=
= Bethany

Well, along these lines, how do you report the money you earn for
your consulting work to the tax authorities?

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 01:09:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03489
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 01:09:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4554@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 7:13:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13307073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:18:42 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HB8fC05239 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:08:42 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HB8fUh030247 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:08:41 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170707410.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:08:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hey, Natalie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020717103652.033fd118@victoria.nb.no>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Espen Ore wrote:

>I have never been to (New) Valamo but for some reason or other I believed
>it was pretty far (=expensive) for a taxi.

It is, but I have decided not to hitchhike. Bus service is quite limited
and will not work from V to J. It MAY work from J to V.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 02:06:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03760
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 02:06:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00132674@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 8:15:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13309143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:15:39 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HCFdC12275 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:15:39 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-196.panax.com
          [63.163.41.196]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6HCFbj16792 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          08:15:38 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170700000.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D3456FD.11549.1C9C8BB@localhost>
            <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170700000.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717081348.009fdd20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:15:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717131919.A25260@yoccoz.multinix.com>

>Well, along these lines, how do you report the money you earn for
>your consulting work to the tax authorities?       --steph

Probably just as regular income.  Each employer sends you and the IRS a
1099.  You are an independent contractor.  You don't own a business.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 02:08:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03764
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 02:08:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC47C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 8:11:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13309246 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:17:15 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HCHFC12458 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:17:15 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws140-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.140]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HCH9q12308
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:17:12 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162237530.27175-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D356042.B60EF1ED@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:17:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> But do you get asked to register by the tax office, Natalie?

Possibly.  I get tons of small-business-related mail plus phone calls.
I don't give much thought to them, although I did ask the p.o. people
one day if they thought it was ok for me to throw away a form sent to me
by the national p.o. authorities asking for info about my business and
its mail-receiving.  They said yes.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 02:12:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03769
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 02:12:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4805@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 8:15:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13309395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:21:05 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HCL5C12783 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:21:05 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws140-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.140]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HCL2q13185
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:21:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020717023232.4066F8096@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35612A.24A8E7F4@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:20:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> You're right, your tastes are mutant. My dinner for *er* is going to
> have something like 7 courses, and even though the menu isn't set yet,
> I'm quite sure none of them will be a bowl of raw daikon.

That's fine.  You aren't <required> to use my suggestion.  I will say,
however, that almost every Japanese dinner I've ever eaten has included
at least seven courses and that many of them have indeed included raw
daikon.  Dinners and lunches in Japanese homes always seem to last
forever because of the gazillions of courses.  Also restaurant dinners
when other people have arranged them in advance, as often seems to be
the case with things like work-related gatherings.  The meals go on and
on and on.  I was always relieved to see the miso shiru show up since it
marked the end of the meal.  By that time I was always very weary of
eating and very full (except never too full for dessert, of course --
desserts go to a different part of the stomach).

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 02:12:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03776
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 02:12:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00132707@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 8:21:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13309410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:21:23 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HCLNC12798 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:21:23 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws140-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.140]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HCLKq13274
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:21:20 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020716202137.01f8e6c0@mail.istori.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35613D.87CBA8B2@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:21:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Have you eaten...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Kaminski wrote:

> Besides, I think octopuses are too intelligent to eat.

Do they use IVs instead?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 02:14:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03780
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 02:14:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4827@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 8:17:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13309479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:23:36 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HCNaC12975 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:23:36 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws140-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.140]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HCNXq13820
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:23:33 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020717100733.00be3ea0@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3561C1.25E420F2@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:23:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh or ITMFTATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:
>
> I now have tickets and accommodation in Edinburgh in early September. First
> four days of conference then Ingjerd comes over and we have three days
> together there. I have been in Ediburgh for 5 hours once before and visited
> the castle. We will probably do that again but I am open for further
> suggestions.

Is the wonderful music festival still in early September in Ediburgh?
The one time I was in Edinburgh, I happened by luck to be there when the
festival was going on.  It was an annual September event back then.  My
guess is that it may still be, even though that was over thirty years
ago.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 02:18:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03792
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 02:18:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013276B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 8:27:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13309555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:27:39 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HCRcC13323 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:27:39 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws140-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.140]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HCRaq14800
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:27:37 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D3456FD.11549.1C9C8BB@localhost>
            <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170700000.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <20020717131919.A25260@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3562B5.E93B66C4@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:27:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> Well, along these lines, how do you report the money you earn for
> your consulting work to the tax authorities?

The (very little) money I've been paid through the years for non-MSU
work I've always reported on the line that says something like "other
income" or "income not reported elsewhere."  Iirc, you write the source
of it on that line, which means if you did very much of such work in a
year, you'd probably not be able to do it on that line.  That's where,
for example, I put in the money the City of Starkville paid me for being
on the Resolution Committee (resolving questions about votes in the
vote-counting after a couple of city elections).  And it's where I've
put in money through the years from entities that have paid me to
evaluate materials for them.  Etc.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 02:20:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03799
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 02:20:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC487B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 8:23:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13309694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:29:26 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HCTQC13752 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:29:26 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-196.panax.com
          [63.163.41.196]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6HCTPj19586 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          08:29:25 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <F198ZqWw7T8VyRfAG0e000160ce@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717082411.00a04d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:29:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh or ITMFTATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020717100733.00be3ea0@victoria.nb.no>

>I now have tickets and accommodation in Edinburgh in early September. First
>four days of conference then Ingjerd comes over and we have three days
>together there. I have been in Ediburgh for 5 hours once before and visited
>the castle. We will probably do that again but I am open for further
>suggestions.       --Espen

Take a day train to Kyle of Lochalsh.  Beautiful scenery.  Even better,
rent a car and go over to the Isle of Skye for a few nights.  Even better,
take the rental car onto a ferry from Skye and go to the Outer
Hebrides.  Stay at Ardvourlie
Castle.         http://www.witb.co.uk/links/ardvourlie.htm


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 02:22:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03808
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 02:22:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001327C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 8:31:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13309807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:31:24 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HCVOC14037 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:31:24 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-196.panax.com
          [63.163.41.196]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6HCVNj20021 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          08:31:23 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020717100733.00be3ea0@victoria.nb.no>
            <F198ZqWw7T8VyRfAG0e000160ce@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020717100733.00be3ea0@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717082939.00a078c0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:30:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh or ITMFTATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717105144.A24972@yoccoz.multinix.com>

>= together there. I have been in Ediburgh for 5 hours once before and visited
>= the castle. We will probably do that again but I am open for further
>= suggestions.   Espen

We were there for only one day and lucked into the Tattoo at the
Castle.  It was awesome.  A lone piper stood on the ramparts and played as
we walked down the hill to our train that night.  This Saturday night there
will be a Tattoo at an old fort here in Maine.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 02:24:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03813
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 02:24:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001327F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 8:33:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13309943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:33:15 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe56.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.191]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HCXFC14382 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:33:15 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 05:33:09 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 12:33:09.0544 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[1BD67280:01C22D8E]
Message-ID:  <OE56KWQTHL2bti2SbPk00000985@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:34:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh or ITMFTATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Is the wonderful music festival still in early September in Ediburgh?
The one time I was in Edinburgh, I happened by luck to be there when the
festival was going on.  It was an annual September event back then.  My
guess is that it may still be, even though that was over thirty years
ago.


>--
> -- Natalie

An *arts* festival, right? It was as of last year. My SF friend danced in it
with the Katsura Kan Butoh company.

I recall a great restaurant environs of Edinburgh castle called The
Witchery. I remember ordering venison in red wine and mushroom sauce of some
sort.

And of course -- one must pay homage to Robert Burns while there.

AS, who was there one August

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 02:28:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03838
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 02:28:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC491A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 8:31:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13310142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:37:32 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HCbWC15056 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:37:32 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws135-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.135]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HCbSq17003
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:37:29 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3564D2.5CAAAA2D@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:36:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      For Karen
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ok, here are some vegetable <things> you might consider:  nasu to piiman
no miso itame, goboo to ninjin no kimpira, gomoku mame, satsumainmo no
remon ni.  Oops.  Scratch that last one.  The remon probably doesn't
qualify as making it a <thing>.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 02:30:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03850
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 02:30:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC493B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 8:33:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13310226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:39:22 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HCdMC15286 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:39:22 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws135-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.135]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HCdJq17391
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:39:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE56KWQTHL2bti2SbPk00000985@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D356573.F27122BF@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:39:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh or ITMFTATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:

> An *arts* festival, right? It was as of last year. My SF friend danced in it
> with the Katsura Kan Butoh company.

It might have been all the arts.  The part I remember was folk music.

> And of course -- one must pay homage to Robert Burns while there.

And climb the Scott tower.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 02:35:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03861
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 02:35:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4988@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 8:38:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13310342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:44:36 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HCiZC15784 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:44:35 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6HCniH25459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:49:44
          +0200
References: <F198ZqWw7T8VyRfAG0e000160ce@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020717100733.00be3ea0@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717082411.00a04d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020717144944.A25437@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:49:44 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh or ITMFTATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717082411.00a04d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>; from
              bonniev@PANAX.COM on Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 08:29:00AM -0400

=
= Take a day train to Kyle of Lochalsh.  Beautiful scenery.  Even better,
= rent a car and go over to the Isle of Skye for a few nights.  Even better,
= take the rental car onto a ferry from Skye and go to the Outer
= Hebrides.  Stay at Ardvourlie
= Castle.         http://www.witb.co.uk/links/ardvourlie.htm
=
=
=     --bonniev

3 days bonniev!  Let the guy see Edinb*^(*&(*!!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 02:44:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03866
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 02:44:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4AAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 8:48:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13311205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:53:45 -0400
Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HCrjC17682 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:53:45 -0400
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com
          (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g6HCrh731773 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 02:53:44 -1000 (HST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D3456FD.11549.1C9C8BB@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D34DC66.18961.15A4C7@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 02:54:30 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@FLEX.COM>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170700000.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

On 17 Jul 2002 at 7:01, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> Interesting. If I own a business because I occasionally get paid for
> consulting work, then at least half the professors at UT - and
> probably a higher percentage elsewhere - own a business.

You're focusing on the wrong thing. What you should be concerned about is whether you are engaged in an
activity--call it what you like--that is taxable beyond reporting your gains as ordinary income. If you lived where
I do, you probably would be. I have no idea what the laws of Tennessee are like, but it would seem prudent for
you to find out.

    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 02:47:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03882
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 02:47:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4AE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 8:50:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13311426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:56:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HCu2C18207 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:56:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws135-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.135]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HCtvq21354
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:55:58 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35695A.48715928@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:55:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Edinburgh Festival
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Alas, it now seems to be entirely in August.  I did find a web page with
its dates from the past to make sure I wasn't imagining having been
there (since I knew I hadn't been there in August):
1969 - 24 August - 13 September

But:
2002 11 August - 31 August

from: http://www.eif.co.uk/about/
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 02:49:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03890
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 02:49:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4B4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 8:52:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13311564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:58:03 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HCw2C18501 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:58:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws135-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.135]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HCvtq22059
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:57:55 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D35695A.48715928@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3569D0.AC344BB7@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:57:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh Festival
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> from: http://www.eif.co.uk/about/

Oops.  I forgot to open the frame in a new window (I hate frames):
http://www.eif.co.uk/about/history.asp?page=dates

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 02:52:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03900
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 02:52:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00132ACA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 9:01:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13311923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:01:53 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f214.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.214]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HD1rC19041 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:01:53 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 06:01:48 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 13:01:47 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 13:01:48.0168 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[1C37A880:01C22D92]
Message-ID:  <F214dMJ0s5qWC20c3CM00013e47@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:01:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
>What I found strange was that the point of my posting was about looking
>at the clock rather than counting, yet you responded with "I'm not even
>touching this."

I didn't quote the clock part.

Then Karen chimed in thanking you from the bottom of
>her heart.

I was being self-deprecating. It was *my* endless going on about the subject
of lap v. length that I was trying to spare you all from. And that's how I
read Karen's thank you as well. Nothing to do with you. She thanked me for
not talking about it. Why does it have to be about you? It's about ME.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 02:53:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03911
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 02:53:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4BF6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 8:57:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13311938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:02:39 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HD2cC19115 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:02:38 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-196.panax.com
          [63.163.41.196]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6HD2bj26659 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          09:02:37 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020717082411.00a04d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <F198ZqWw7T8VyRfAG0e000160ce@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020717100733.00be3ea0@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717082411.00a04d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717090140.00a0a8e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:02:12 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh or ITMFTATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717144944.A25437@yoccoz.multinix.com>

>3 days bonniev!  Let the guy see Edinb*^(*&(*!!

No.  He might never get back.  He should see the countryside not the town.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:00:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03957
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 03:00:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4C75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 9:04:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13312288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:09:50 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f218.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.218]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HD9oC20006 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:09:50 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 06:09:44 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 13:09:44 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 13:09:44.0753 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[3848C210:01C22D93]
Message-ID:  <F2189ssssGKeD59KuER00000a7c@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:09:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Lap this!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

From: Doris Markland (dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM)
Subject: Re: I'll Take Marie's Lap
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.words-l
At 03:40 PM 7/24/96 -0400, you wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, Myles Callum wrote:
>>Hey, I'm in your camp.  A lap is whatever youse say it is, pal.
>
>I guess it would be tasteless to talk about your <length>.
>
>Marie
>
>
Especially the <length> in your <lap.>     - D. M.


Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:02:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03961
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 03:02:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4C9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 9:05:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13312441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:11:11 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HDBAC20428 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:11:11 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTSPS>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:11:10 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTSPR; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:11:05 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <20020717144944.A25437@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717082411.00a04d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <F198ZqWw7T8VyRfAG0e000160ce@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020717100733.00be3ea0@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717082411.00a04d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020717151015.02a50b30@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:10:59 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh or ITMFTATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717090140.00a0a8e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

09:02 17.07.2002 -0400 skrev bonniev:
>>3 days bonniev!  Let the guy see Edinb*^(*&(*!!
>
>No.  He might never get back.  He should see the countryside not the town.

Would I get back then, or is it the other way round: you wish me lost
somewhere in the heather?

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:14:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05005
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 03:14:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4D93@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 9:17:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13313123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:23:10 -0400
Received: from color.sics.se (color.sics.se [193.10.66.199]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HDN9C22162 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:23:09 -0400
Received: from scheutz.sics.se (scheutz.sics.se [193.10.66.136]) by
          color.sics.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12034 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:23:08 +0200 (MET DST)
          env-to (<WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>) env-from (torkel@scheutz.sics.se)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <200207171323.PAA12034@color.sics.se>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:23:08 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Torkel Franzén <torkel@SICS.SE>
Subject:      Brevet brigadier?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

  A most profound question has occurred to me and the cats (Marcia
being away on a walking holiday in the Yorkshire Dales). Some
years ago, Brad commented on the lyrics by Sheryl Crow which were
then in the air:

All I wanna do is have some fun
I got a feeling I'm not the only one
All I wanna do is have some fun
I got a feeling I'm not the only one
All I wanna do is have some fun
Until the sun comes up over Santa Monica Boulevard

  Since then, Sheryl Crow has remained in the public eye, and most
recently has made an incisive comment on everyday life in the year 2002:

I'm gonna soak up the sun
I'm gonna tell everyone
To lighten up (I'm gonna tell 'em that)
I've got no one to blame
For every time I feel lame
I'm looking up
I'm gonna soak up the sun
I'm gonna soak up the sun

  My question is, what do former Kentucky Colonels, now promoted to
Brigadier Generals, think about this later Crow doctrine?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:14:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05016
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 03:14:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00132CF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 9:23:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13313143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:23:46 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe63.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.198]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HDNjC22217 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:23:46 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 06:23:40 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 13:23:40.0526 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[2A7198E0:01C22D95]
Message-ID:  <OE63ZmcK8r6beUzmRf6000009ea@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:25:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Georgia -- The Resounding Polyphony of the Caucasus
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I finally received this disc I'd orderered. Great! Contains a wonderful
rendition of Tsintskaro.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:22:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05399
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 03:22:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4E6E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 9:26:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13313733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:31:42 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HDVgC23741 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:31:42 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust238.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.240]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003993717@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:31:41 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020716212959.B0F25819B@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D357212.B49D4EC4@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:33:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> How could I get *ELEVEN* holes in one t-shirt and a) not have a cat
> and b) not notice????

Maybe *er* did it with one of his sharp pointy things that he uses to
make himself bloody.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:26:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05407
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 03:26:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4ED3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 9:29:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13313905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:35:30 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HDZTC24165 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:35:30 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6HDZTC07815 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          08:35:29 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEDBFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001101c22d97$04cdc120$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:36:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Winner of Worst Writing
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

----- Original Message -----
From: "S Hess" <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
To: <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 12:41 AM
Subject: Winner of Worst Writing


> Maybe Myles knows this woman.
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?P65716841
>
> Sandra

Hey, I like her.  She's our kind of ilk.

              - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:29:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05414
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 03:29:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00132E8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 9:38:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13313348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:38:12 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f48.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.48]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HDSCC23018 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:28:12 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 06:28:06 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:28:05 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 13:28:06.0882 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C9344C20:01C22D95]
Message-ID:  <F483MOsvGhcISPim9Oc0000e85c@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:28:05 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

IIRC the main offenders (just kidding) in the endless lap-v-length
discussion were Steve Karlson and Marieber. Marty provided peanut
gallery-comments. I remember everyone being exhausted and relieved
when it was over.

I don't know why Natalie's getting all wound up about it. Marie
was talking about her (Marie's) role in the thread.

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:29:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05421
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 03:29:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00132E98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 9:38:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13314266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:38:33 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HDcXC24780 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:38:33 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-110.panax.com
          [63.163.41.110]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6HDcVj01215 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          09:38:32 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020717090140.00a0a8e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020717144944.A25437@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717082411.00a04d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <F198ZqWw7T8VyRfAG0e000160ce@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020717100733.00be3ea0@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717082411.00a04d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717093648.00a08900@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:38:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh or ITMFTATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020717151015.02a50b30@victoria.nb.no>

>Would I get back then, or is it the other way round: you wish me lost
>somewhere in the heather?       --Espen

Once you see the beautiful mountains of the Scottish Highlands and drink
their malt you will return home in awe and forget all about Greece,
returning again and again to Scotland.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:31:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05434
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 03:31:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4F6A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 9:34:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13314352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:40:10 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HDeAC25022 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:40:10 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust238.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.240]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003993924@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:39:07 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F180roBCADIsipni1ZA00013185@hotmail.com>
            <3D3499B1.D4B674EE@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3573CE.5AB9A151@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:40:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
> What I found strange was that the point of my posting was about looking
> at the clock rather than counting,

I was/am as confused as Natalie in this matter. I think she needs a
friend, so I am siding with her on this issue. As for me, I have one lap
only.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:31:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05438
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 03:31:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC4F6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 9:34:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13314359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:40:15 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HDeFC25031 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:40:15 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-110.panax.com
          [63.163.41.110]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6HDeEj01639 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          09:40:14 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717093856.00a00e30@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:39:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Brevet brigadier?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <200207171323.PAA12034@color.sics.se>

>   A most profound question has occurred to me and the cats (Marcia
>being away on a walking holiday in the Yorkshire Dales).

Oh what fun for Marcia.  URL??   And how wonderful for Torkel to be home
alone with the cats being visited by profound questions.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:33:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05442
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 03:33:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00132EFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 9:42:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13314573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:42:31 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HDgUC25393 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:42:31 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTSRV>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:42:30 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTSR4; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:42:22 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020717151015.02a50b30@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717090140.00a0a8e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020717144944.A25437@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717082411.00a04d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <F198ZqWw7T8VyRfAG0e000160ce@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020717100733.00be3ea0@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717082411.00a04d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020717154059.00bfbee8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:42:15 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh or ITMFTATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717093648.00a08900@pop3.norton.antivirus>

09:38 17.07.2002 -0400 skrev bonniev:
>>Would I get back then, or is it the other way round: you wish me lost
>>somewhere in the heather?       --Espen
>
>Once you see the beautiful mountains of the Scottish Highlands and drink
>their malt you will return home in awe and forget all about Greece,
>returning again and again to Scotland.

A couple of times I have flown over Scotland in clear weather. What I
really would like to do was to hike across the Highlands for a week or so
once. I had originally planned to do so in 2000, combining it with a
conference in Glasgow. Instead I got married.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:42:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05497
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 03:42:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC50C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 9:46:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13315374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:51:37 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f230.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.230]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HDpbC27172 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:51:37 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 06:51:31 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 13:51:31 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 13:51:31.0592 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[0E7A0880:01C22D99]
Message-ID:  <F230JjMNGKgFAfpRkSl00014180@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:51:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
>I don't know why Natalie's getting all wound up about it. Marie
>was talking about her (Marie's) role in the thread.

As always, the voice of wisdom.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:47:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05515
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 03:47:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001330A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 9:56:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13315684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:56:02 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HDu2C27924 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:56:02 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6HE1Bp25628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:01:11
          +0200
References: <F214dMJ0s5qWC20c3CM00013e47@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020717160111.A25616@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:01:11 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F214dMJ0s5qWC20c3CM00013e47@hotmail.com>; from
              lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM on Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 09:01:47AM -0400

= not talking about it. Why does it have to be about you? It's about ME.
=
= Marie
=    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
=

Would you all quit going on about this?  It's all about ME
anyway.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:49:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05525
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 03:49:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001330F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 9:58:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13315813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:58:28 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HDwSC28241 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:58:28 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-137.panax.com
          [63.163.41.137]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6HDwRj05340 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          09:58:27 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020717093648.00a08900@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020717151015.02a50b30@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717090140.00a0a8e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020717144944.A25437@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717082411.00a04d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <F198ZqWw7T8VyRfAG0e000160ce@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020717100733.00be3ea0@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717082411.00a04d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717095645.00a0a260@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:57:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh or ITMFTATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020717154059.00bfbee8@victoria.nb.no>

>really would like to do was to hike across the Highlands for a week or so
>once. I had originally planned to do so in 2000, combining it with a
>conference in Glasgow. Instead I got married.       --Espen

Now that you have acquired a congenial companion, it is time to go a'walkin'.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:50:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05555
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 03:50:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00133115@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 9:59:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13315890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:59:33 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HDxWC28376 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:59:32 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6HE4fE25641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:04:41
          +0200
References: <F483MOsvGhcISPim9Oc0000e85c@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020717160441.B25616@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:04:41 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F483MOsvGhcISPim9Oc0000e85c@hotmail.com>; from
              rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM on Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 01:28:05PM +0000

=
= I don't know why Natalie's getting all wound up about it. Marie
= was talking about her (Marie's) role in the thread.
=
= -rashmi

Natalie is getting all wound up because she has low self esteem
and is depressed!

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:54:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05572
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 03:54:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC51EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 9:57:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13316181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:03:08 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f214.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.214]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HE38C29248 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:03:08 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 07:03:02 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:03:02 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 14:03:02.0734 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[AA6DEEE0:01C22D9A]
Message-ID:  <F214qa2vWFZx3ELuQDM000177a9@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:03:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh or ITMFTATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Is the wonderful music festival still in early September in Ediburgh?

Festival is in August.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:04:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05589
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:04:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC52EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:07:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13316834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:13:17 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f249.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.249]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HEDHC30880 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:13:17 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 07:13:11 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:13:11 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 14:13:11.0881 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[15826390:01C22D9C]
Message-ID:  <F249kzpaPE3vX7RrZ5d00011373@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:13:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh Festival
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://www.go-edinburgh.co.uk/

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:06:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05597
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:06:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5326@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:10:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13316992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:15:51 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HEFpC31243 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:15:51 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws122-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.122]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HEFQq23243
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:15:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F230JjMNGKgFAfpRkSl00014180@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D357BFB.C7E7A6D3@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:15:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> >From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
> >I don't know why Natalie's getting all wound up about it. Marie
> >was talking about her (Marie's) role in the thread.
>
> As always, the voice of wisdom.

I obviously misread Karen (and Annbork), who seemed to be suggesting
that I had been involved in pointless backs and forths on the subject.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:09:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05606
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:09:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00133317@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:18:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13317165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:18:20 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HEIKC31638 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:18:20 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws122-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.122]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HEI2q24291
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:18:05 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F483MOsvGhcISPim9Oc0000e85c@hotmail.com>
            <20020717160441.B25616@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D357C96.245FF735@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:17:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> and is depressed!

?  If I've ever been depressed in my life, I haven't known it.  How does
one know?  (I don't mean feeling temporarily disappointed or unhappy
with some situation.  I can't imagine a life that had nary an occasion
for such short-lived feelings.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:17:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05990
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:16:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001333D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:25:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13317706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:25:38 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HEPcC00335 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:25:38 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws122-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.122]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HEPaq27377
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:25:36 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D357E5D.5EA0FAB1@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:25:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I hate grass.  I don't hate grass-cutting so much when it fits into my
life.  I  love the way I feel after doing the task -- the combination of
the exercise afterglow and looking at the results of it.  What I hate is
the fitting it into one's schedule when it can't usually be planned well
because rain changes things -- making it need cutting sooner, making it
difficult to cut at the time you planned to cut it since a
toadfrog-strangler is falling, etc.  Working around travel schedules is
especially hard.  I've got to be out of town from early tomorrow until
Saturday afternoon.  My grass needs cutting right now, but I'm trying to
figure out whether it can wait until late Saturday.  Then the big
problem is Finland.  If this were May, I would of course not be able to
go off that long without making some kind of grass-cutting arrangements
for my absence.  But often grass is mainly dead in August, meaning much
less cutting.  It's been raining quite a bit the past week, though,
making me wonder what's going to happen in early August.  I'm hoping to
cut it the day before I leave (what if the rain is pouring that day??)
and then pray that it won't be too wild a jungle by Aug. 14.

Dogs complicate life.  If I were dogless, I'd for sure find some kind of
zero-lot-line dwelling.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:18:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05994
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:18:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5450@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:21:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13317794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:27:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HERJC00516 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:27:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 300B78107; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:27:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717142719.300B78107@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:27:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020717101136.03403748@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 17, 2002 10:11:49 am"

Espen Ore said:
> 09:30 16.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> >*er* fixed my lawnmower transformer, which saved me megabucks, and in
> >  return, he asked me to design a Japanese meal that we could cook
> >  together. I'm still playing with the menu, but I'm wondering, what's
> >  your favorite Japanese food, excluding noodles, sushi, sashimi, and
> >  one-pot dishes? Do you like seaweed salad? What particular vegetable
> >  things do you like?
>
> Tempura.

Actually, me, too. It's a lot of trouble, though, so I haven't decided
if I'm going to do that or not. One of the best things I ever ate was
ginger tempura I made.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:19:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06008
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:19:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC546C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:22:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13317887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:28:04 -0400
Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HES4C00736 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:28:04 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.5c.371a955 (16227) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul
          2002 10:27:57 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m26.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.3]) by
          air-in02.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ23-0717102757;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:27:57 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <6A03ADE2.175FF25B.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:27:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM> wrote:

>At 03:16 PM 7/16/2002 -0400, jbh wrote:
>> >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:
>> >
>>
>> >> Steinbeck, I believe.
>> >
>> >Clyde, shouldn't that be: "Who is Steinbeck?
>>
>>Alex Trebek
>
>Somehow, I doubt that Kristin would know that reference (at least, for the
>sake of Estonian culture, I hope so).
>
>cwv
>
hopefully, you're correct.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:19:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06018
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:19:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC547E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:22:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13317940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:28:29 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HESTC00846 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:28:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A40228159; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:28:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717142823.A40228159@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:28:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020717103100.033f8500@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 17, 2002 10:31:13 am"

Espen Ore said:
> 14:29 16.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> >How could I get *ELEVEN* holes in one t-shirt and a) not have a cat
> >and b) not notice????
>
> Do you have a rabbit?

Not that I know of, but the grass is so deep in the back, it's hard to
tell.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:20:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06022
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:20:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00133433@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:29:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13318000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:29:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HETXC01001 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:29:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CC5DB8102; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:29:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717142932.CC5DB8102@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:29:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170656010.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 17, 2002  6:57:32 am"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >Performing a business equals owning a business to me. If Natalie had
> >made this post, I wouldn't have been surprised, but since you made the
> >post, I *am* surprised because in my mind you do own a business.
>
> Interesting, So if somebody saya, "I am not in the business of solving
> other peoples' problems," you would know that they do not own a
> problem-solving business?

No. I would take it for the expression it is.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:20:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06026
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:20:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5496@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:24:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13318009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:29:37 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HETbC01016 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:29:37 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26675 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:29:13 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02
          10:29:15 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02 10:28:57 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3546E5.24712.76D7FE@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:28:54 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D357E5D.5EA0FAB1@maynor.net>

Isn't there someone who would stop by and take a look while you're
gone and cut it if it needs it?

BrP

> I hate grass.  I don't hate grass-cutting so much when it fits into my
> life.  I  love the way I feel after doing the task -- the combination of
> the exercise afterglow and looking at the results of it.  What I hate is
> the fitting it into one's schedule when it can't usually be planned well
> because rain changes things -- making it need cutting sooner, making it
> difficult to cut at the time you planned to cut it since a
> toadfrog-strangler is falling, etc.  Working around travel schedules is
> especially hard.  I've got to be out of town from early tomorrow until
> Saturday afternoon.  My grass needs cutting right now, but I'm trying to
> figure out whether it can wait until late Saturday.  Then the big
> problem is Finland.  If this were May, I would of course not be able to
> go off that long without making some kind of grass-cutting arrangements
> for my absence.  But often grass is mainly dead in August, meaning much
> less cutting.  It's been raining quite a bit the past week, though,
> making me wonder what's going to happen in early August.  I'm hoping to
> cut it the day before I leave (what if the rain is pouring that day??)
> and then pray that it won't be too wild a jungle by Aug. 14.
>
> Dogs complicate life.  If I were dogless, I'd for sure find some kind of
> zero-lot-line dwelling.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:21:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06030
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:21:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC54AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:24:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13318076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:30:32 -0400
Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HEUWC01186 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:30:32 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b7.e8d13f (16240) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul
          2002 10:30:24 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m29.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.6]) by
          air-in03.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ34-0717103024;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:30:24 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <6B07D62E.60F2EF80.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:30:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Yum!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:

>First BLT of the year with homegrown tomatoes! Followed by the last of
>the blueberry pie.
>
>Karen
>

This does sound yummy.  I'm gonna go cut grass AND pick blackberries back on the galloping lane.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:21:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06034
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:21:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013345A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:30:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13318133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:30:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HEUeC01227 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:30:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 62794811D; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:30:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717143039.62794811D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:30:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170658160.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 17, 2002  6:59:14 am"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >Can you engage in business without owning or running a business? (I'm
> >just curious, not trying to pick.)
>
> OKay - so what exactly IS "a business"? That's the question, I think.

Doing something you get paid for.

Do you pay federal taxes on your consulting income?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:21:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06038
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:21:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC54CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:25:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13318158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:30:46 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HEUkC01265 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:30:46 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27112 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:30:44 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02
          10:30:45 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02 10:30:17 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020717103100.033f8500@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore  
            at "Jul 17, 2002 10:31:13 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D354730.12435.77FC40@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:30:09 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717142823.A40228159@yellow.rahul.net>

If the grass is that deep the answer is probably yes

BrP


> > Do you have a rabbit?
>
> Not that I know of, but the grass is so deep in the back, it's hard to
> tell.:)
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:22:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06042
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:22:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC54E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:25:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13318222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:31:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HEVYC01408 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:31:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 520748102; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717143133.520748102@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:31:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170700000.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 17, 2002  7: 1:18 am"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Michael E. Macmillan wrote:
>
> >On 16 Jul 2002 at 21:03, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
> >
> >> No. She consults, but she does not own a business.
> >
> >If she gets paid for it, she may well be in business regardless of the semantic
> >games she wants to play. She would do well to brush up on the local tax
> >laws.
>
> Interesting. If I own a business because I occasionally get paid for
> consulting work, then at least half the professors at UT - and
> probably a higher percentage elsewhere - own a business.

Yep. I'm surprised you didn't know this.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:23:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06051
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:23:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC54EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:26:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13318256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:32:10 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HEWAC01530 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:32:10 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 623C88107; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:32:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717143206.623C88107@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:32:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170703190.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 17, 2002  7: 3:57 am"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >The complexity of my situation has little to do with the gender of the
> >parties involved. MNF wouldn't want to sail the boat whether *er*
> >helped me fix it or not. I simply underestimated the depth of his lost
> >enthusiasm. (And in fact still don't understand it.)
>
> I think you should consider getting out of the business of fixing boats.

Believe me, it ain't a business.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:24:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06056
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:24:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC550C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:27:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13318341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:33:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HEWxC01746 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:32:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AF7498107; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:32:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717143258.AF7498107@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:32:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717081348.009fdd20@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 17, 2002  8:15:10 am"

bonniev said:
> >Well, along these lines, how do you report the money you earn for
> >your consulting work to the tax authorities?       --steph
>
> Probably just as regular income.  Each employer sends you and the IRS a
> 1099.  You are an independent contractor.  You don't own a business.

You own your contracting business.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:25:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06060
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:25:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC553C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:28:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13318510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:34:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HEYWC02107 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:34:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EC6098159; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:34:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717143431.EC6098159@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:34:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35612A.24A8E7F4@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 17,
              2002  7:20:58 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> at least seven courses and that many of them have indeed included raw
> daikon.

As a garnish or a dish? I've never been served a bowl of raw daikon.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:27:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06064
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:27:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001334EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:36:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13318646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:36:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HEaXC02447 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:36:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B9321811D; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:36:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717143632.B9321811D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:36:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: For Karen
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3564D2.5CAAAA2D@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 17,
              2002  7:36:34 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Ok, here are some vegetable <things> you might consider:  nasu to piiman
> no miso itame, goboo to ninjin no kimpira, gomoku mame, satsumainmo no
> remon ni.  Oops.  Scratch that last one.  The remon probably doesn't
> qualify as making it a <thing>.

Satsumaimo makes it not a summer think. The rest are things I'm
thinking about.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:30:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06077
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:30:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5593@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:33:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13318755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:38:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HEcuC02790 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:38:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EA8618102; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:38:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717143855.EA8618102@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:38:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: For Karen
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3564D2.5CAAAA2D@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 17,
              2002  7:36:34 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Ok, here are some vegetable <things> you might consider:  nasu to piiman
> no miso itame, goboo to ninjin no kimpira, gomoku mame, satsumainmo no
> remon ni.  Oops.  Scratch that last one.  The remon probably doesn't
> qualify as making it a <thing>.

I have cookbooks and the web and my preferences to give me things to
consider. That's why I asked for Wordsler likes. The fact that almost
everyone likes seaweed, but no one likes seaweed salad makes me think
that I don't want to include that as a separate dish, for example.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:30:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06081
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:30:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0013353D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:39:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13318841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:39:38 -0400
Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HEdcC02907 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:39:38 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b3.e853cf (16213) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul
          2002 10:39:37 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m31.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by
          air-in01.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ11-0717103936;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:39:36 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <31E6B6E8.32AE2DE9.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:39:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET> wrote:

>jbh wrote:
>
>> Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET> wrote:
>>
>>
>Shall we swim laps at the beach?
>
Shu-ah.  Or we could just time it.....

jbh (really about to go cut grass this time.  Only five acres this morning, though.)  I'll call Brad at lunchtime.




__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:32:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06085
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:32:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5601@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:36:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13318996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:41:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HEfiC03263 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:41:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EB8B780FA; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:41:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717144131.EB8B780FA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:41:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D357212.B49D4EC4@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 17,
              2002  9:33: 6 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > How could I get *ELEVEN* holes in one t-shirt and a) not have a cat
> > and b) not notice????
>
> Maybe *er* did it with one of his sharp pointy things that he uses to
> make himself bloody.

Those things are roses, and he hasn't given me any. (But he did advise
me about mine.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:36:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06096
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:36:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC566C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:39:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13319320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:45:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HEjMC03973 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:45:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4294F8106; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:45:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717144518.4294F8106@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:45:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3546E5.24712.76D7FE@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              17, 2002 10:28:54 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> Isn't there someone who would stop by and take a look while you're
> gone and cut it if it needs it?

But she'd probably have to ask!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:37:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06100
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 04:37:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00133611@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:46:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13319447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:46:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HEkoC04282 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:46:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3A7628152; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 07:46:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717144649.3A7628152@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:46:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D354730.12435.77FC40@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              17, 2002 10:30: 9 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> If the grass is that deep the answer is probably yes

It's going to get mowed when it stops raining--mulching mowers rule.

> > > Do you have a rabbit?
> >
> > Not that I know of, but the grass is so deep in the back, it's hard to
> > tell.:)
> >
> > Karen
>

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 05:17:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06158
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 05:17:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5C7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:21:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13324769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:26:39 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HFQdC14704 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:26:39 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6HFQcQ16108 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:26:38 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207171025410.15098-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:26:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3546E5.24712.76D7FE@localhost>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

> Isn't there someone who would stop by and take a look while you're
> gone and cut it if it needs it?

HA HA HA HA HA she's supposed to -ask- for -help-?

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 05:20:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06165
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 05:20:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5CB2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:23:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13324931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:29:31 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f104.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.104]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HFTVC15060 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:29:31 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 08:29:26 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:29:25 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 15:29:26.0012 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[BBE763C0:01C22DA6]
Message-ID:  <F104pxK3kIf5uB2cP6100017abd@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:29:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:
>
> > Isn't there someone who would stop by and take a look while you're
> > gone and cut it if it needs it?

Paul,

There are these people who run "lawn services" that will do this for you, no
favors attached, all you have to do is pay them the money!!! Now, doubtless
they are asked to register themselves as businesses, and that might be a bit
of a stopping point, but then maybe not, because businesspeople typically
know when they are running a business or not.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 05:21:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06172
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 05:21:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00133B59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:29:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13324958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:29:54 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HFTsC15116 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:29:54 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6HFTrN28372
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:29:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170703190.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D358F39.105B8D52@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:37:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> >The complexity of my situation has little to do with the gender of the
> >parties involved. MNF wouldn't want to sail the boat whether *er*
> >helped me fix it or not. I simply underestimated the depth of his lost
> >enthusiasm. (And in fact still don't understand it.)
>
> I think you should consider getting out of the business of fixing boats.
>
> Bethany

LOL. Oleander is going to fix it.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 05:21:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06176
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 05:21:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5CC7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:24:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13324996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:30:20 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HFUKC15329 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:30:20 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003996457@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:30:20 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D34B603.F1228096@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D358DDF.6846FF1E@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:31:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Today is Indeed the Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Col Hannum:  The bday is today, not tomorrow.

So happy birthday, Brad. Because you are behind in reading list mail,
you probably wouldn't have read this on time anyway.

alyce


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 05:23:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06180
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 05:23:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5D45@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:26:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13325498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:31:55 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HFVtC16283 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:31:55 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 439407C39; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:31:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717153108.439407C39@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:31:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disaster Averted:)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D358F39.105B8D52@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 17,
              2002  8:37:29 am"

Betty said:
> LOL. Oleander is going to fix it.

No, he's not.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 05:24:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06190
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 05:24:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5D8D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:28:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13325695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:33:42 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HFXgC16760 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:33:42 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005304628@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:33:40 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162021520.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D358EA7.BFBEE9BA@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:35:03 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> It is probably time to move. Yesterday, I received from the Knox
> County Department of Revenue a letter asking that I provide my tax no.,
> the name of my business, and a list of all the owners of my business.

Why would you move? Why not answer them and say you don't have a
business (if you don't), and you don't have other owners? Perhaps being
a consultant _is_ a business, though. I would think that it qualifies as
one. Don't you file a Schedule C for your income from consultation,
etc.?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 05:26:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06194
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 05:26:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5DAB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:29:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13325785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:34:59 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HFYxC16951 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:34:59 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6HFYwN03137
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:34:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE56KWQTHL2bti2SbPk00000985@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35906A.586CB323@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:42:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh or ITMFTATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:
>
> >Is the wonderful music festival still in early September in Ediburgh?
> The one time I was in Edinburgh, I happened by luck to be there when the
> festival was going on.  It was an annual September event back then.  My
> guess is that it may still be, even though that was over thirty years
> ago.
>
> >--
> > -- Natalie
>
> An *arts* festival, right? It was as of last year. My SF friend danced in it
> with the Katsura Kan Butoh company.

Oh, and I forgot to report here that Larry and I went and saw one of
Amy's friends dance last Friday night!  It was very creative, energetic,
and professional.  The Cowell Theatre at Fort Mason seems to be a haven
for artists. It was a lot of fun.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 05:30:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06210
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 05:30:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5E3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:33:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13326108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:39:00 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HFd0C17664 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:39:00 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005304739@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:38:59 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162100570.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D358FE6.BF325CFA@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:40:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Old City Business - alec, do not read this!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
>
> I do not understand what information you are asking for. You specify a
> Federal Employers ID Number (FEIN)

That is your SS # if you are self-employed, usually.

> State Sales Tax Account Number,

Are consulting fees subject to sales tax where you are? Maybe so.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 05:30:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06214
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 05:30:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00133C87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:39:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13326154 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:39:45 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HFdjC17759 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:39:45 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6HFdiN07966
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:39:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F214dMJ0s5qWC20c3CM00013e47@hotmail.com>
            <20020717160111.A25616@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D359188.8EC08EE3@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:47:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:
>
> = not talking about it. Why does it have to be about you? It's about ME.
> =
> = Marie
> =    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
> =
>
> Would you all quit going on about this?  It's all about ME
> anyway.

When will you hear about your interview?  Good luck!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 05:31:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06218
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 05:31:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5E71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:34:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13326215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:40:28 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HFeSC17934 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:40:28 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003996683@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:40:28 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162102530.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35903F.38EB5E52@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:41:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:>
> No. She consults, but she does not own a business.

But professional activities constitute a "business," as far as states
and the IRS are concerned, I think.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 05:33:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06224
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 05:33:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5ECA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:37:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13326501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:42:46 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HFgkC18557 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:42:46 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003996728@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:42:46 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162128560.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3590C9.5B3ECB17@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:44:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

 How can a
> non-business register as a business?

I think that Knox County considers consulting to be a business. It is
around here.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 05:35:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06231
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 05:35:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5EFF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:39:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13326637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:44:43 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HFihC18822 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:44:43 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020717154437.MUGD26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:44:37 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D3564D2.5CAAAA2D@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717083340.01cb4150@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:39:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: For Karen
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717143855.EA8618102@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen Kay writes,

>The fact that almost
>everyone likes seaweed, but no one likes seaweed salad makes me think
>that I don't want to include that as a separate dish, for example.

Horenso ohitashi (especially no gomae) would make a good replacement.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 05:37:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06235
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 05:37:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5F21@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:40:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13326722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:45:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HFjrC19013 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:45:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5B1D88147; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:45:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717154552.5B1D88147@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:45:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3590C9.5B3ECB17@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 17,
              2002 11:44: 9 am"

alyce cresap said:
> "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>  How can a
> > non-business register as a business?
>
> I think that Knox County considers consulting to be a business. It is
> around here.

You would think her accountant would have brought this to her attention.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 05:39:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06240
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 05:39:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5F7A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:42:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13326977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:48:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HFm7C19454 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:48:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 51B727F46; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 08:48:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717154803.51B727F46@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:48:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: For Karen
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717083340.01cb4150@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Jul 17, 2002  8:39:33 am"

Peter Kaminski said:
> Karen Kay writes,
> >The fact that almost
> >everyone likes seaweed, but no one likes seaweed salad makes me think
> >that I don't want to include that as a separate dish, for example.
>
> Horenso ohitashi (especially no gomae) would make a good replacement.

I was planning on that--thinking about walnuts instead of sesame
because something else will have sesame.

I still think I might do the seaweed salad, but as part of ahi poke.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 05:39:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06247
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 05:39:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC5F87@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:42:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13327010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:48:26 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HFmPC19484 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:48:25 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003996831@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:48:22 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162239190.27175-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D359219.342D28D6@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:49:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> Ah, "the business of" - does that to you equal "owning A BUSINESS"?

Yes

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 05:54:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06320
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 05:54:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6118@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:57:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13328224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:03:19 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HG3JC22232 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:03:19 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020717160227.NWVP24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:02:27 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <F180lcXMBPWz0HtSgXz00016738@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717082616.026af850@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:54:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: WTG Norway!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020717102617.0340f270@victoria.nb.no>

Espen Ore writes,

>There is a move towards using Linux in schools here but I am not sure how
>far it has come yet.

The translation / tuning up seems to be coming along well:
<http://www.skolelinux.no/>.  Also see: <http://www.gnuskole.dk/>,
<http://www.linuxiskolan.org/>.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:00:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06356
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:00:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC61F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:03:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13328751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:09:20 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HG9HC23516 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:09:17 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003997334@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:09:13 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207162201520.29371-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
            Ann Borkin at "Jul 16, 2002 10: 6:53 pm" 
            <v03130316b95aa9c34415@[66.237.73.53]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3596FC.1527227@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:10:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bookrat wrote:
>   But incorporating as a business?

Surely I am not incorporated, nor is my CPA, my insurance salesman, nor
a lot of people I know. Nonetheless we are considered to be businesses
for tax purposes, local as well as federal. To be a business does not
mean incorporation is necessary.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:03:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06375
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:03:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00133FE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:12:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13329076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:12:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGCUC24178 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:12:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 208908107; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 09:12:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717161229.208908107@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:12:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3596FC.1527227@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 17,
              2002 12:10:36 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Bookrat wrote:
> >   But incorporating as a business?
>
> Surely I am not incorporated, nor is my CPA, my insurance salesman, nor
> a lot of people I know. Nonetheless we are considered to be businesses
> for tax purposes, local as well as federal. To be a business does not
> mean incorporation is necessary.

I DON'T GET THIS!!!! Isn't this just common sense?! How can Bethany
not know this? Was I trolled and did I fall for it?

Has the world tilted on its axis AGAIN?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:05:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06383
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:05:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6281@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:08:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13329185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:14:02 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGE2C24501 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:14:02 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05888 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:13:06 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02
          12:13:07 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02 12:13:03 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D355F4B.17207.E86E21@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:13:00 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3596FC.1527227@valstar.net>

Really all you're doing at the lowest level of registering as a
business is telling the IRS (and state and local taxing authorities)
that (business name) = (personal name). Right?

BrP


>
> Surely I am not incorporated, nor is my CPA, my insurance salesman, nor
> a lot of people I know. Nonetheless we are considered to be businesses
> for tax purposes, local as well as federal. To be a business does not
> mean incorporation is necessary.
>
> alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:07:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06389
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:07:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC62CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:10:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13329450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:15:53 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGFqC25029 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:15:52 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-74.panax.com
          [65.114.190.74]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6HGFpj32762 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          12:15:51 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D3596FC.1527227@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717121349.00a0dec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:15:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717161229.208908107@yellow.rahul.net>

>I DON'T GET THIS!!!! Isn't this just common sense?! How can Bethany
>not know this? Was I trolled and did I fall for it?
>
>Has the world tilted on its axis AGAIN?
>Karen

I'm a little stunned by all of you thinking that one has to be a business
to report consulting income.  I truly think not.  We had no trouble
reporting Clyde's editing income without doing a thing about filing as a
business.  There is a place on the regular IRS forms to pay SS on the
income and everything.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:11:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06417
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:11:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6345@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:14:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13329785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:20:19 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGKJC25752 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:20:19 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003997566@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:20:15 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170658160.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D359991.6FBFFD03@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:21:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> OKay - so what exactly IS "a business"? That's the question, I think.

Any activity in which you do something and charge for it.
I repeat, do you not file a Schdule C? A business may produce a product
or perform a service (you), or sell things. Whatever.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:12:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06424
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:12:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6357@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:15:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13329837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:21:30 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGLUC25877 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:21:30 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005305541@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:21:29 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170700000.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3599DC.6235608B@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:22:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
 at least half the professors at UT - and
> probably a higher percentage elsewhere - own a business.

Yes, you are self-employed business people. What don't you get about
this, Bethany? Don't you pay taxes on your income? Are you just
pocketing your consulting fees and not declaring the income?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:15:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06437
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:15:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6396@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:18:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13330040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:24:00 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGO0C26385 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:24:00 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005305594@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:24:00 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170700000.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D3456FD.11549.1C9C8BB@localhost>
            <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207170700000.14113-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717081348.009fdd20@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D359A72.663454AE@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:25:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>  You are an independent contractor.  You don't own a business.

Sigh. Tell that to the IRS. Independent contractors are considered to be
businesses.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:26:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06503
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:26:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC64A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:29:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13330160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:35:03 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGP3C26601 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:25:03 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HGP2Uh006264 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:25:02 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171224410.20245-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:25:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717131919.A25260@yoccoz.multinix.com>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, steph wrote:

>Well, along these lines, how do you report the money you earn for
>your consulting work to the tax authorities?

In the usual fashion - via standard IRS forms.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:26:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06507
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:26:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC64A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:29:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13330881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:35:07 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGZ7C28060 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:35:07 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005305859@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:35:07 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020717161229.208908107@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D359D0D.EE360D29@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:36:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> I DON'T GET THIS!!!! Isn't this just common sense?!

Yes, of course it is common sense. We must remember, though, with whom
we are dealing.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:27:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06512
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:27:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0013422F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:35:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13330228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:35:51 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGPpC26727 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:25:51 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HGPpUh006618 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:25:51 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171225350.20245-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:25:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717081348.009fdd20@pop3.norton.antivirus>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, bonniev wrote:

>>Well, along these lines, how do you report the money you earn for
>>your consulting work to the tax authorities?       --steph
>
>Probably just as regular income.  Each employer sends you and the IRS a
>1099.  You are an independent contractor.  You don't own a business.

Right.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:27:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06517
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:27:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013423C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:36:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13330976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:36:31 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGaVC28225 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:36:31 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005305892@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:36:28 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D355F4B.17207.E86E21@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D359D5E.55146924@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:37:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> Really all you're doing at the lowest level of registering as a
> business is telling the IRS (and state and local taxing authorities)
> that (business name) = (personal name). Right?

Right. Here you go to the courthouse and file a dba (doing business as),
which can be your own name or another name.

alyce
--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:28:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06521
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:28:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00134252@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:37:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13330390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:37:49 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGRmC27076 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:27:49 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HGRmUh007285 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:27:48 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171227190.20245-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:27:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D34DC66.18961.15A4C7@localhost>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Michael E. Macmillan wrote:

>You're focusing on the wrong thing. What you should be concerned about is
whether you are engaged in an >activity--call it what you like--that is
taxable beyond reporting your gains as ordinary income. If you lived
where >I do, you probably would be. I have no idea what the laws of
Tennessee are like, but it would seem prudent for
>you to find out.

I have a highly competent tax accountant -

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:34:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06551
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:34:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6570@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:37:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13331529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:43:00 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGgxC29751 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:42:59 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003998048@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:42:56 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D3596FC.1527227@valstar.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717121349.00a0dec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D359EE2.162B3B05@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:44:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> I'm a little stunned by all of you thinking that one has to be a business
> to report consulting income.

I don't think that at all. My position is that if Bethany is a
professional legal consultant, she may be considered a business for the
purposes of Knox County, whatever those may be. An occasional fee like
Clyde's can be put on the regular 1040 as additional income, surely, but
if Bethany wants to deduct expenses that she incurs while performing her
consulting services (and I am sure she does), she has to file a schedule
C. And in the mind of government entities, that would be considered to
be "being in business," I feel sure.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:37:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06571
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:37:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC65B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:40:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13330937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:45:52 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGZqC28144 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:35:52 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HGZpUh010364 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:35:52 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171235310.20245-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:35:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D357E5D.5EA0FAB1@maynor.net>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I hate grass.  I don't hate grass-cutting so much when it fits into my
>life.  I  love the way I feel after doing the task -- the combination of

No ponies for you!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:38:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06581
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:38:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00134331@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:47:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13331040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:47:29 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGbTC28396 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:37:29 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HGbTUh010898 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:37:29 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171236550.20245-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:37:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717143039.62794811D@yellow.rahul.net>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> OKay - so what exactly IS "a business"? That's the question, I think.
>
>Doing something you get paid for.

That's not true.

>Do you pay federal taxes on your consulting income?

Of course. And I wish I could pay state income taxes on it.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:39:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06586
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:39:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00134342@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:48:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13331899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:48:19 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGmIC30642 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:48:18 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005306155@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:48:17 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171227190.20245-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35A022.9FC7C1C@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:49:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
> I have a highly competent tax accountant -

Then ask this competent person your business (or not) status.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:42:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06610
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:42:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6617@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:45:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13331489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:51:27 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGfQC29486 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:41:26 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HGfQUh012355 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:41:26 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171240050.20245-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:41:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I am quite familiar with business tax matters. So is my accountant. I have
owned a coporation - that was a very different situation. Some of you are
simply guessing what Tennessee and Knox Co. tax laws might be.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:43:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06617
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:43:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013439A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:52:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13331518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:52:32 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGgWC29699 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:42:32 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HGgVUh012702 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:42:31 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171242010.20245-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:42:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D359991.6FBFFD03@valstar.net>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

>> OKay - so what exactly IS "a business"? That's the question, I think.
>
>Any activity in which you do something and charge for it.

Not necessasrily.

>I repeat, do you not file a Schdule C? A business may produce a product
>or perform a service (you), or sell things. Whatever.

See previous post.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:44:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06623
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:44:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6641@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:47:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13332192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:53:19 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HGrJC31220 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:53:19 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6HGwTF26188 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:58:29
          +0200
References: <F214dMJ0s5qWC20c3CM00013e47@hotmail.com>
            <20020717160111.A25616@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D359188.8EC08EE3@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020717185828.A26150@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:58:28 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D359188.8EC08EE3@uclink.berkeley.edu>; from
              bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU on Wed, Jul 17,
              2002 at 08:47:20AM -0700

= >
= > Would you all quit going on about this?  It's all about ME
= > anyway.
=
= When will you hear about your interview?  Good luck!
=
= Betty

Thank you for noticing.  I will hear more on Friday.  The news so
far is that he is impressed with my skills, but has a less
expensive less skilled candidate who is also worth considering.
For another job I have been put on the short list of candidates
they are considering interviewing.  They were supposed to make a
decision today about who they were going to interview, but that
will also apparently happen on Friday.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:55:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06663
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:55:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6774@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:59:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13333202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:04:38 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HH4bC01137 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:04:37 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-137.panax.com
          [65.114.190.137]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6HH4aj09925 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          13:04:36 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D3596FC.1527227@valstar.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717121349.00a0dec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717130200.00a0b1a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:04:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D359EE2.162B3B05@valstar.net>

>I don't think that at all. My position is that if Bethany is a
>professional legal consultant, she may be considered a business for the
>purposes of Knox County, whatever those may be. An occasional fee like
>Clyde's can be put on the regular 1040 as additional income, surely, but
>if Bethany wants to deduct expenses that she incurs while performing her
>consulting services (and I am sure she does), she has to file a schedule
>C. And in the mind of government entities, that would be considered to
>be "being in business," I feel sure.       --alyce

Alright, I agree with that.   What's the difference between being
"self-employed" and being a business?  I see that in 1996 we filed an SE
form in order to pay SS on Clyde's editing income.  No Schedule C.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:56:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06670
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 06:56:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001344C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:04:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13333211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:04:50 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HH4oC01174 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:04:50 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZE00HC3KS12L@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:04:50 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020716190605.7A6BD7C30@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D35A354.5090407@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:03:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>Kohl's has a large petite section.
>>
>
> Women's petites?
>

Yes. Both dressy and casual.  Kohl's really caters to little
old ladies.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:01:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06701
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:01:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013453B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:10:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13333549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:10:04 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHA4C01991 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:10:04 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZE00HCVL0R0D@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:10:04 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020716212959.B0F25819B@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D34AF36.99A4FC63@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D35A48F.4060105@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:08:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Karen Kay wrote:
>
>>How could I get *ELEVEN* holes in one t-shirt and a) not have a cat
>>and b) not notice????
>>
>
> Do you drink beer?  I almost never do now, but years ago in my
> beer-drinking years my t-shirts were riddled with holes from the
> openings.
>


My favorite green t-shirt from Montreal has a little teeny
tiny hole at the bottom.  I'm horrified to think somebody
might see that as a sign that I use it to open bottle after
bottle of beer (I use a bottle-opener, of course).




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:06:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06729
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:06:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC688A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:09:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13334025 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:14:52 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHEqC02955 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:14:52 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZE00HNWL8S2L@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:14:52 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162100570.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D35A5AF.1010205@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:13:19 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Old City Business - alec, do not read this!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I feel bad for the poor person in the government office who
is now going to be tasked with playing semantic games with
Bethany, who seems to find it way too easy to simply write
"This is a residence, not a business."



Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:
>
>
>>Sounds like a computer foulup.  Who are you going to list as the owners,
>>the state?
>>
>
> My response:
>
> Thank you for your letter of July 11, 2002 (enclosed for your
> information).
>
> I do not understand what information you are asking for. You specify a
> Federal Employers ID Number (FEIN), a name that the FEIN is registered
> in, and a list of business owners, a State Sales Tax Account Number, and
> the name of a person to whom the State Sales Tax
> Account is registered.
>
> You have also enclosed a sheet (enclosed for your information) informing
> me that you have assigned me an employer identification number (EIN). I
> have never been assigned such a number. And I do not own a business.
>
> But if you will tell me the name of the business you are seeking
> information for, I will try to help you identify the owner or owners.
>
> Yours very sincerely,
>
>
> Bethany
>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:07:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06733
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:07:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC68A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:10:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13334117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:16:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHG7C03217 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:16:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 119C48174; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:16:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717171603.119C48174@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:16:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717121349.00a0dec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 17, 2002 12:15:25 pm"

bonniev said:
> I'm a little stunned by all of you thinking that one has to be a business
> to report consulting income.

If you consult for money, you have a consulting business.

> We had no trouble
> reporting Clyde's editing income without doing a thing about filing as a
> business.

Who said anything about filing as a business?

> There is a place on the regular IRS forms to pay SS on the
> income and everything.

Well, yeah.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:08:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06738
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:08:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001345D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:17:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13334224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:17:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHHMC03436 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:17:23 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0AE568006; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:17:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717171721.0AE568006@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:17:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171225350.20245-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 17, 2002 12:25:51 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> >1099.  You are an independent contractor.  You don't own a business.
>
> Right.

Wrong. You own your contracting business.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:09:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06743
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:09:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC68DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:12:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13334269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:18:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHI8C03579 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:18:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 681E97F6F; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:18:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717171807.681E97F6F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:18:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D359D5E.55146924@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 17,
              2002 12:37:50 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Right. Here you go to the courthouse and file a dba (doing business as),
> which can be your own name or another name.

And you don't even have to do this to have a business.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:09:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06747
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:09:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC68E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:12:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13334289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:18:31 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f228.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.228]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHIUC03618 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:18:31 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 10:18:25 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 17:18:24 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 17:18:25.0398 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[F5AE8160:01C22DB5]
Message-ID:  <F228I643e49q6WJ4EuP0001469f@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:18:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: For Karen
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>I have cookbooks and the web and my preferences to give me things to
>consider. That's why I asked for Wordsler likes. The fact that almost
>everyone likes seaweed, but no one likes seaweed salad makes me think
>that I don't want to include that as a separate dish, for example.

Wait! I just tasted my lunch companion's seaweed salad, and LOVED IT! Slimy
and crunchy, with bits of cucumber and sprinkled with sesame seeds -- and
maybe a dash of sesame oil. Yes.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:10:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06754
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:10:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC68F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:13:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13334315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:19:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHJ0C03669 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:19:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E1C298120; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:18:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717171859.E1C298120@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:18:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171235310.20245-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 17, 2002 12:35:51 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> >I hate grass.  I don't hate grass-cutting so much when it fits into my
> >life.  I  love the way I feel after doing the task -- the combination of
>
> No ponies for you!

But she's a good sheep candidate.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:12:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06770
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:12:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013463E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:21:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13334456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:21:16 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHLFC03949 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:21:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5081D8138; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:21:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717172114.5081D8138@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:21:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717185828.A26150@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              17, 2002  6:58:28 pm"

steph said:
> Thank you for noticing.  I will hear more on Friday.  The news so
> far is that he is impressed with my skills, but has a less
> expensive less skilled candidate who is also worth considering.

Argh! If you were here, I'd say that means you don't have a chance.:(

> For another job I have been put on the short list of candidates
> they are considering interviewing.  They were supposed to make a
> decision today about who they were going to interview, but that
> will also apparently happen on Friday.

Cool. I'm delighted that you're getting interviews at all!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:12:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06774
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:12:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6927@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:15:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13334477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:21:29 -0400
Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHLRC03977 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:21:27 -0400
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com
          (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g6HHLQ792601 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:21:26 -1000 (HST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D351AA1.19041.108BA60@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:20:01 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@FLEX.COM>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F104pxK3kIf5uB2cP6100017abd@hotmail.com>

On 17 Jul 2002 at 10:29, Anne Toal wrote:

> There are these people who run "lawn services" that will do this for
> you, no favors attached, all you have to do is pay them the money!!!

Please, don't confuse the kind of services available in a metropolis like
Edinburg with those likely to be available in Dogp^H^H^H^HStarkvile.

    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:13:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06778
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:13:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6931@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:17:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13334520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:22:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHMcC04095 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:22:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E2B7A8085; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:22:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717172231.E2B7A8085@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:22:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717130200.00a0b1a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 17, 2002  1: 4: 9 pm"

bonniev said:
> What's the difference between being
> "self-employed" and being a business?

None. You are a business if you're self-employed--but you're often the
only employee.

> I see that in 1996 we filed an SE
> form in order to pay SS on Clyde's editing income.  No Schedule C.

Ha!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:14:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06782
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:14:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00134679@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:23:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13334548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:23:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHNCC04156 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:23:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 68BF580F7; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:23:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717172311.68BF580F7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:23:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35A354.5090407@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 17,
              2002 12: 3:16 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Yes. Both dressy and casual.  Kohl's really caters to little
> old ladies.

Yes, they do.

Hm. Well, next time I go to Home Depot, I'll look at their clothes.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:14:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06786
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:14:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6947@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:18:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13334561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:23:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHNgC04193 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:23:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 153D28091; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:23:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717172342.153D28091@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:23:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717172311.68BF580F7@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at
              "Jul 17, 2002 10:23:11 am"

Karen Kay said:
> Rita Chapman said:
> > Yes. Both dressy and casual.  Kohl's really caters to little
> > old ladies.
>
> Yes, they do.
>
> Hm. Well, next time I go to Home Depot, I'll look at their clothes.

(They are next door to each other.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:15:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06801
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:15:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6957@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:18:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13334607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:24:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHOXC04274 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:24:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0C7D47F6F; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:24:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717172430.0C7D47F6F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:24:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: How?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35A48F.4060105@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 17,
              2002 12: 8:31 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> My favorite green t-shirt from Montreal has a little teeny
> tiny hole at the bottom.

I've started darning them.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:15:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06805
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:15:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6959@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:19:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13334611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:24:37 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHObC04280 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:24:37 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id KAA79481 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          10:24:36 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207171023100.72551-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:24:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: no more sonc
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020716192001.00a929a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

I can't sell anything since I don't own anything. I sold out of the market
a long time ago.  Now, I'm tempted to get back in.

  Sharon

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

> Just don't sell at a loss!  That's stupid.
>
> Betty
>
> At 09:17 PM 7/16/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >LOL.  True confession: I don't keep track.
> >
> >Sharon Ziperovich wrote:
> >
> >>I do!  I sold my house, bought another, but kept a little stack of rainy
> >>day money aside.  I'm trying to figure out what to do with it.
> >>
> >>  Sharon
> >>
> >>On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>OK, everyone I'm taking a poll:  How many of you want me to
> >>>discuss my financial portfolio in extruciating detail.  Be
> >>>honest, now.  I know you want to hear all about it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I'm out - the volatility, lack of a dividend, and no. of outstanding
> >>>>options (what if options are expensed?) persuaded me to sell this morning.
> >>>>
> >>>>If the price drops enough, I may buy more shares, perhaps doing again
> >>>>what I did before - I bought 30 shares and held them through two splits,
> >>>>ending up with 72.5 (after I bought 5 additional ones).
> >>>>
> >>>>Boo-hoo! I miss being a SONC shareholder. But I will enjoy receiving the
> >>>>fat check that ML will send me. My profit was something like 60-70% (I'll
> >>>>calculate it later this week to the penny), and I held the original shares
> >>>>only about 18 months.
> >>>>
> >>>>But with luck, I will acquire more shares and make more money on the co. I
> >>>>still think it is a good company = but certain immediate profits looked
> >>>>best today. So don't boycott SONC, please!
> >>>>
> >>>>(Because I sold another stock at a loss this year, I will have no tax
> >>>>consequences on this sale.)
> >>>>
> >>>>Bethany
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> >>>rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> >>>http://www.etext.org/~rita
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >--
> >Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> >rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> >http://www.etext.org/~rita
> >
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:17:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06809
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:17:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6986@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:20:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13334105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:25:58 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHFwC03172 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:15:58 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HHFwUh026272 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:15:58 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171315370.20245-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:15:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business - alec, do not read this!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35A5AF.1010205@swbell.net>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:

>I feel bad for the poor person in the government office who
>is now going to be tasked with playing semantic games with
>Bethany, who seems to find it way too easy to simply write
>"This is a residence, not a business."

LOL! You have not seen it.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:18:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06822
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:18:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC699C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:21:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13334820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:27:11 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHRAC04742 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:27:10 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 110207CAF; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:27:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717172708.110207CAF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:27:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: For Karen
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F228I643e49q6WJ4EuP0001469f@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 17, 2002  1:18:24 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
[about seaweed salad]
> Wait! I just tasted my lunch companion's seaweed salad, and LOVED IT! Slimy
> and crunchy, with bits of cucumber and sprinkled with sesame seeds -- and
> maybe a dash of sesame oil. Yes.

I've never had it with cucumber. I'd make it as part of a raw tuna
dish, though. (Which also includes sesasme oil.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:18:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06826
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:18:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC699D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:21:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13334824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:27:12 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHRBC04748 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:27:12 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-137.panax.com
          [65.114.190.137]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6HHRAj14757 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          13:27:10 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020717130200.00a0b1a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717132525.00a02020@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:26:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717172231.E2B7A8085@yellow.rahul.net>

> > I see that in 1996 we filed an SE
> > form in order to pay SS on Clyde's editing income.  No Schedule C.
>
>Ha!
>Karen

Why "Ha"?  That was the one year that we hired someone to do our taxes
because it was also the year that we bought and sold a house.  This
professional tax guy put the income under "other income" and saw no need
for Schedule C.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:20:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06841
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:20:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC69CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:23:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13334982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:29:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHTDC05124 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:29:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5BC8B7F46; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:29:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717172912.5BC8B7F46@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:29:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717132525.00a02020@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 17, 2002  1:26:44 pm"

bonniev said:
> > > I see that in 1996 we filed an SE
> > > form in order to pay SS on Clyde's editing income.  No Schedule C.
> >
> >Ha!
> >Karen
>
> Why "Ha"?  That was the one year that we hired someone to do our taxes
> because it was also the year that we bought and sold a house.  This
> professional tax guy put the income under "other income" and saw no need
> for Schedule C.

I'm sorry, I'm trying to limit my pointless back-and-forths to one
person per day, and Bethany already sucked me in.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:22:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06847
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:22:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC69FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:25:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13335133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:30:49 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHUnC05489 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:30:49 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-137.panax.com
          [65.114.190.137]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6HHUmj15654 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          13:30:48 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020717132525.00a02020@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717133004.00a04b30@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:30:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717172912.5BC8B7F46@yellow.rahul.net>

>I'm sorry, I'm trying to limit my pointless back-and-forths to one
>person per day, and Bethany already sucked me in.
>Karen

Please put me in the queue for later this week.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:22:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06851
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:22:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6A10@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:25:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13335205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:31:14 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHVEC05678 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:31:14 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust226.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.228]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005307186@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:31:11 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D3596FC.1527227@valstar.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717121349.00a0dec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717130200.00a0b1a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35AA2F.1F95DAEE@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:32:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
> Alright, I agree with that.   What's the difference between being
> "self-employed" and being a business?  I see that in 1996 we filed an SE
> form in order to pay SS on Clyde's editing income.  No Schedule C.
>
In order to deduct expenses associated with earning the income, the
Schedule C is used, AFAIK. I assume that Bethany might have had
transportation, research, and other expenses to take off. But maybe not.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:26:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06869
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:26:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013482E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:35:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13335472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:35:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHZ1C06342 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:35:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5579B7EF6; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:35:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717173500.5579B7EF6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:35:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717133004.00a04b30@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 17, 2002  1:30:22 pm"

bonniev said:
> >I'm sorry, I'm trying to limit my pointless back-and-forths to one
> >person per day, and Bethany already sucked me in.
> >Karen
>
> Please put me in the queue for later this week.

:) I'll try to remember.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:28:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06885
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:28:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013488C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:37:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13335685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:37:28 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHbSC06918 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:37:28 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust226.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.228]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005307353@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:37:25 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35ABA6.A4F2448B@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:38:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      my new name
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Received today a solicitation for a credit card. It was addressed to
cresao alice ephemera, and began, "Dear Mr. Ephermera." If I accept this
offer, could I charge up the card and then not pay because I am not Mr.
Ephemera?
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:28:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06889
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:28:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6ABC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:32:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13335710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:37:45 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHbiC06948 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:37:44 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id KAA86650 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          10:37:44 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207171035520.72551-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:37:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Er names
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130307b95a8999b567@[198.144.202.197]>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Bookrat wrote:

> two.  After several seconds had galloped by, she reached into the detritus
> under the passenger seat and pulled up a manila envelope.  She undid the
> clasp -- on the envelope, that is -- opened it, and handed me -- what else?
> -- the mammograms that she had picked up from her radiologist earlier that
> day.

Oh!  That's great!  Now I'm smiling. Thank you Ken and Karen.

  Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:29:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06893
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:29:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001348A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:38:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13335777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:38:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHcaC07097 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:38:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BCD8C7E58; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:38:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717173834.BCD8C7E58@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:38:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: my new name
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35ABA6.A4F2448B@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 17,
              2002  1:38:46 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Received today a solicitation for a credit card. It was addressed to
> cresao alice ephemera, and began, "Dear Mr. Ephermera." If I accept this
> offer, could I charge up the card and then not pay because I am not Mr.
> Ephemera?

It'd be a good stage name for a magician.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:34:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06930
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:34:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6B62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:37:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13336056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:43:15 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHhFC07892 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:43:15 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08931 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:43:14 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02
          13:43:15 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02 13:43:07 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D357463.18075.13AD613@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:43:00 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: my new name
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35ABA6.A4F2448B@valstar.net>

Cresao Alice Ephemera - sounds Portuguese

There's just no limit to the stupidity of mass mailers and
telemarketers and spammers (is there one word that fits all three?)

BrP



> Received today a solicitation for a credit card. It was addressed to
> cresao alice ephemera, and began, "Dear Mr. Ephermera." If I accept this
> offer, could I charge up the card and then not pay because I am not Mr.
> Ephemera?
> --
> alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:34:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06934
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:34:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6B65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:37:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13336064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:43:20 -0400
Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHhJC07918 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:43:19 -0400
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com
          (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g6HHhI798993 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:43:18 -1000 (HST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D35A5AF.1010205@swbell.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D352044.1100.11EBE91@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:44:04 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@FLEX.COM>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Old City Business - alec, do not read this!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171315370.20245-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

On 17 Jul 2002 at 13:15, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> LOL! You have not seen it.

Do let us know whether the Tax Man turns out to have been amused by your
cute response.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:36:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06940
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:36:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6BC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:39:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13336312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:45:29 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHjRC08367 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:45:28 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2A22381F4; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 10:44:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717174437.2A22381F4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:44:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: my new name
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D357463.18075.13AD613@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              17, 2002  1:43: 0 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> Cresao Alice Ephemera - sounds Portuguese

It could be something fancy to eat, too.

> There's just no limit to the stupidity of mass mailers and
> telemarketers and spammers (is there one word that fits all three?)

Jerks.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:44:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06970
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:44:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6CAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:48:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13336115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:53:46 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHhkC07987 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:43:46 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HHhiUh004020 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:43:45 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171343330.20245-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:43:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717172912.5BC8B7F46@yellow.rahul.net>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>I'm sorry, I'm trying to limit my pointless back-and-forths to one
>person per day, and Bethany already sucked me in.

Point!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:48:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07032
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:48:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00134B1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:57:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13336461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:57:37 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HHlbC08815 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:47:37 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HHlaUh005851 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:47:37 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171344520.20245-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:47:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business - alec, do not read this!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D352044.1100.11EBE91@localhost>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Michael E. Macmillan wrote:

>Do let us know whether the Tax Man turns out to have been amused by your
>cute response.

I look forward to a long and mutually rewarding correspondence - I'll be
glad to share!

Actually, I hope he is poking around trying to find whatever it is he is
trying to find. It seemed clear to me that he was simply writing every
downtown/Old City address looking for businesses that he might have
overlooked or that might have moved in recently. He seems not to know that
Old City and downtown are mixed use areas.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:55:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07061
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:55:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6E00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:58:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13337970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:03:58 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HI3wC11635 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:03:58 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust226.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.228]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005308027@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:03:58 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35B1DB.DFC9785C@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:05:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Doctor visit report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

107 lbs. which is up a little from June.
BP 137/73
Pulse (seated) 62
Cholesterol 193
"Good" Choleeterol 61
Advised to take iron and vitamin C

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:57:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07069
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:57:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00134C84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:06:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13338075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:06:43 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HI6hC11877 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:06:43 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust226.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.228]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0003999982@mx0.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:06:41 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35B27E.37B9E123@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:07:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Forgot to say...I asked the doctor my blood type, because I never have
known it. And he said that the only way you usually find out is to
donate or receive blood, which I haven't. That sounds strange to me. I
think it would be handy to know. He just shrugged.
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:59:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07073
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 07:59:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6E7F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:02:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13338279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:08:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HI8EC12336 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:08:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 738897F10; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:08:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717180811.738897F10@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:08:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35B27E.37B9E123@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 17,
              2002  2: 7:58 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Forgot to say...I asked the doctor my blood type, because I never have
> known it. And he said that the only way you usually find out is to
> donate or receive blood, which I haven't. That sounds strange to me. I
> think it would be handy to know. He just shrugged.

Why would it be handy to know? Before they gave you blood they'd type
you anyway. And ditto for you giving.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:04:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07107
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:04:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6F04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:07:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13338643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:13:33 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIDXC13047 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:13:33 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20189 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:12:51 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02
          14:12:55 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02 14:12:19 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D35B27E.37B9E123@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 17,
            2002  2: 7:58 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D357B39.28707.1558AF6@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:12:10 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717180811.738897F10@yellow.rahul.net>

I understand. It's not really important, but one of those pieces of
data that it's nice to know.  Sort of like know ing the names of your
great great grandparents or something.

BrP




>
> Why would it be handy to know? Before they gave you blood they'd type
> you anyway. And ditto for you giving.
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:05:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07111
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:05:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6F0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:08:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13338662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:13:52 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIDqC13078 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:13:52 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id LAA08378 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          11:13:51 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207171111460.94375-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:13:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717180811.738897F10@yellow.rahul.net>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> alyce cresap said:
> > Forgot to say...I asked the doctor my blood type, because I never have
> > known it. And he said that the only way you usually find out is to
> > donate or receive blood, which I haven't. That sounds strange to me. I
> > think it would be handy to know. He just shrugged.
>
> Why would it be handy to know? Before they gave you blood they'd type
> you anyway. And ditto for you giving.
>
The first reason that comes to mind is that if you knew you were type O
you might feel more obligation to give blood.

Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:06:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07115
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:06:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC6F43@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:10:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13338849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:15:44 -0400
Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIFhC13468 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:15:44 -0400
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com
          (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g6HIFg708593 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:15:42 -1000 (HST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D352044.1100.11EBE91@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D3527DC.31156.13C69A1@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:16:28 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@FLEX.COM>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Old City Business - alec, do not read this!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171344520.20245-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

On 17 Jul 2002 at 13:47, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> Actually, I hope he is poking around trying to find whatever it is he
> is trying to find. It seemed clear to me that he was simply writing
> every downtown/Old City address looking for businesses that he might
> have overlooked or that might have moved in recently.

Given the dismal economic situation you've repeatedly described, it should be no surprise if tax authorities are
making special efforts to be sure they're getting all the revenue the law allows.


> He seems not to know that Old City and downtown are mixed use areas.

That's likely of no concern. It's not unusual--which is not to say I'm trying to tell you how it is in Knoxville--for
zoning laws to permit specified kinds of residence-based commercial activities in residential areas

   mem
.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:16:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07178
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:16:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00134F3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:25:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13339932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:25:29 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIPTC15564 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:25:29 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust226.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.228]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005308522@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:25:29 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020717180811.738897F10@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35B6E5.3ED8E674@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:26:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
>
> Why would it be handy to know?

Because it is a frequent subject on Words-L, and I never am able to
enter into the conversation.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:20:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07189
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:20:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC70ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:23:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13340287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:29:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIT4C16410 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:29:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7631B7C5C; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:29:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717182903.7631B7C5C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:29:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D357B39.28707.1558AF6@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              17, 2002  2:12:10 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> I understand. It's not really important, but one of those pieces of
> data that it's nice to know.  Sort of like know ing the names of your
> great great grandparents or something.

Uh-oh. I don't. Alice and Albert were the greats on my mother's side,
but I don't remember who were the great-greats.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:20:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07196
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:20:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC70F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:23:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13339352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:29:16 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIJGC14355 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:19:16 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HIJCUh023189 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:19:12 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171418570.20245-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:19:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Doctor visit report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35B1DB.DFC9785C@valstar.net>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

>107 lbs. which is up a little from June.
>BP 137/73
>Pulse (seated) 62
>Cholesterol 193
>"Good" Choleeterol 61
>Advised to take iron and vitamin C

Not bad - keep eating!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:21:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07200
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:21:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7106@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:24:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13340387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:30:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIUEC16705 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:30:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F01BE7C5D; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:30:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717183013.F01BE7C5D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:30:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35B6E5.3ED8E674@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 17,
              2002  2:26:45 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Why would it be handy to know?
>
> Because it is a frequent subject on Words-L, and I never am able to
> enter into the conversation.

Is it? I have no idea what blood type I am.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:26:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07245
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:26:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013509B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:35:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13340725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:35:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIYxC17696 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:35:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4AB637C5D; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:34:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717183456.4AB637C5D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:34:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207171111460.94375-100000@idiom.com> from Sharon
              Ziperovich at "Jul 17, 2002 11:13:51 am"

Sharon Ziperovich said:
> The first reason that comes to mind is that if you knew you were type O
> you might feel more obligation to give blood.

Well, that's true. But surely Alyce would know that by now if she were?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:27:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07249
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:27:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC71A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:30:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13340829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:35:55 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIZsC17982 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:35:54 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-4.panax.com [65.114.190.4])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIZrj28047 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:35:53 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D35ABA6.A4F2448B@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717142353.00b460f0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:24:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: my new name
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D357463.18075.13AD613@localhost>

At 01:43 PM 7/17/2002 -0400, BrP wrote:
>Cresao Alice Ephemera - sounds Portuguese
>
>There's just no limit to the stupidity of mass mailers and
>telemarketers and spammers (is there one word that fits all three?)

anathema

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:29:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07268
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:29:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7223@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:33:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13341258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:38:43 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIchC18905 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:38:43 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02889 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:38:42 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02
          14:38:43 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02 14:38:26 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D357463.18075.13AD613@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D35815E.9949.16D8D39@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:38:23 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: my new name
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717142353.00b460f0@mail.panax.com>

I know all of the qualitative answers to the question, but I was
serious - What IS the term?  Mass marketers?

BrP



> >There's just no limit to the stupidity of mass mailers and
> >telemarketers and spammers (is there one word that fits all three?)
>
> anathema
>
> cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:32:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07285
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:32:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00135199@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:41:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13341398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:41:24 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIfNC19335 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:41:24 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id LAA24213 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          11:41:23 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207171139100.14924-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:41:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717183456.4AB637C5D@yellow.rahul.net>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> Sharon Ziperovich said:
> > The first reason that comes to mind is that if you knew you were type O
> > you might feel more obligation to give blood.
>
> Well, that's true. But surely Alyce would know that by now if she were?
>
How would she know? I have no idea what blood type I am, or my parents for
that matter.  Though I have had a minor surgery.  Do you suppose they
would have determined my blood type then as a precaution and it's in my
file somewhere?

  Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:35:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07299
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:35:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC72BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:39:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13341684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:44:42 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIigC20001 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:44:42 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZE00G5APEHXF@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:44:42 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171315370.20245-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D35BABD.8010307@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:43:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Old City Business - alec, do not read this!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>I feel bad for the poor person in the government office who
>>is now going to be tasked with playing semantic games with
>>Bethany, who seems to find it way too easy to simply write
>>"This is a residence, not a business."
>>
>
> LOL! You have not seen it.
>


No, but I saw your reply.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:36:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07306
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:36:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC72C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:39:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13341694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:44:51 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f101.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIipC20027 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:44:51 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 11:44:45 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 18:44:45 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 18:44:45.0701 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[05620350:01C22DC2]
Message-ID:  <F101EnwkIROb0ILmN5q00017e16@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:44:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Who agrees with me that summer fruit is the most beautiful fruit of the
year? Apricots, golden yellow with a sprinkling of red freckles on the top
by the stem. Yellow nectarines, with the yellowness of the flesh showing
through the red skin, making the whole thing golden red. And Ranier
cherries! Impossibly beautiful, yellow and red and pink all mixed together.
The flavor has nothing to do with what we call "cherry" as in soda pop or
candy. It is a wild lively expression of the psychedelic mixture of color on
the skin. You eat a handful of Ranier cherries and by gum, you know it's
summertime.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:36:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07315
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:36:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC72CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:39:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13341720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:45:24 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIjOC20114 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:45:24 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06217 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:45:22 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02
          14:45:23 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02 14:44:58 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <20020717183456.4AB637C5D@yellow.rahul.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3582E5.27698.17383BB@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:44:54 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207171139100.14924-100000@idiom.com>

I would hope so.

BrP



> >
> How would she know? I have no idea what blood type I am, or my parents for
> that matter.  Though I have had a minor surgery.  Do you suppose they
> would have determined my blood type then as a precaution and it's in my
> file somewhere?
>
>   Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:36:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07319
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:36:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC72CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:39:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13341732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:45:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIjVC20139 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:45:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 934A77E78; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:45:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717184530.934A77E78@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:45:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: my new name
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35815E.9949.16D8D39@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              17, 2002  2:38:23 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> I know all of the qualitative answers to the question, but I was
> serious - What IS the term?  Mass marketers?

Yes--that includes street spam, too.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:38:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07334
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:38:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC72FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:41:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13341910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:47:12 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIlCC20603 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:47:12 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZE00H0OPIO2L@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:47:12 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D352044.1100.11EBE91@localhost> <3D3527DC.31156.13C69A1@localhost>
Message-ID:  <3D35BB53.4030802@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:45:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Old City Business - alec, do not read this!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Michael E. Macmillan wrote:

> On 17 Jul 2002 at 13:47, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>
>
>>Actually, I hope he is poking around trying to find whatever it is he
>>is trying to find. It seemed clear to me that he was simply writing
>>every downtown/Old City address looking for businesses that he might
>>have overlooked or that might have moved in recently.
>>
>
> Given the dismal economic situation you've repeatedly described, it should be no surprise if tax authorities are
> making special efforts to be sure they're getting all the revenue the law allows.
>
>
>
>>He seems not to know that Old City and downtown are mixed use areas.
>>
>
> That's likely of no concern. It's not unusual--which is not to say I'm trying to tell you how it is in Knoxville--for
> zoning laws to permit specified kinds of residence-based commercial activities in residential areas



Or more likely, the Tax Official knows that the area is
mixed use and is trying to figure out what kind of mix-in
you are.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:38:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07340
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:38:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7301@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:41:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13341919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:47:31 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIlVC20627 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:47:31 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07147 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:47:31 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02
          14:47:32 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02 14:47:12 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D35836D.29986.1759569@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:47:10 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F101EnwkIROb0ILmN5q00017e16@hotmail.com>

Ripe off the tree peaches
local strawberries
fresh figs
BrP
(no I'm not listing myself as a summer fruit)


> Who agrees with me that summer fruit is the most beautiful fruit of the
> year? Apricots, golden yellow with a sprinkling of red freckles on the top
> by the stem. Yellow nectarines, with the yellowness of the flesh showing
> through the red skin, making the whole thing golden red. And Ranier
> cherries! Impossibly beautiful, yellow and red and pink all mixed together.
> The flavor has nothing to do with what we call "cherry" as in soda pop or
> candy. It is a wild lively expression of the psychedelic mixture of color on
> the skin. You eat a handful of Ranier cherries and by gum, you know it's
> summertime.
>
> -aht
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:39:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07345
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:39:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00135288@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:48:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13342020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:48:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HImaC20829 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:48:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 411357D9D; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:48:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717184835.411357D9D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:48:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F101EnwkIROb0ILmN5q00017e16@hotmail.com> from Anne Toal at "Jul
              17, 2002  1:44:45 pm"

Anne Toal said:
> You eat a handful of Ranier cherries and by gum, you know it's
> summertime.

Rainier. But otherwise a lovely rant, well up to your usual standard.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:40:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07352
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:40:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7339@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:43:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13342146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:49:17 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HInGC21118 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:49:16 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust226.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.228]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004000968@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:49:12 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020717183456.4AB637C5D@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35BC73.93B9DA06@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:50:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Sharon Ziperovich said:
> > The first reason that comes to mind is that if you knew you were type O
> > you might feel more obligation to give blood.
>
> Well, that's true. But surely Alyce would know that by now if she were?
>
How would I know? I was trying to find out and failed. I guess I'd have
to go to the blood-sucking place and have them test me. But I think I am
too frail to give much of anything. In the past I have been anemic
frequently, which precluded my giving in younger days when I had
fleeting thoughts of being noble. (I am just above the anemia line now,
which is why I am to take iron.)

alyce


alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:41:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07357
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:41:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7342@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:44:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13342198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:49:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HInrC21268 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:49:54 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 701057E78; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:49:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717184952.701057E78@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:49:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35836D.29986.1759569@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              17, 2002  2:47:10 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> Ripe off the tree peaches
> local strawberries
> fresh figs
> BrP
> (no I'm not listing myself as a summer fruit)

Would that be like a fair-weather friend?

I would add Orbs of Health.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:41:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07361
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:41:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC734A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:44:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13342233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:50:14 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIoEC21363 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:50:14 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust226.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.228]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005309101@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:50:11 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D357463.18075.13AD613@localhost> <3D35815E.9949.16D8D39@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35BCAE.981F7DF@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:51:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: my new name
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> I know all of the qualitative answers to the question, but I was
> serious - What IS the term?  Mass marketers?

That's good. That can combine direct mail, spammers, and telemareting
into one big ball.

alyce

--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:42:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07381
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:42:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC735D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:45:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13342294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:51:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIpGC21500 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:51:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 00F1C7CAF; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:51:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717185115.00F1C7CAF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:51:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35BC73.93B9DA06@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 17,
              2002  2:50:27 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> How would I know? I was trying to find out and failed. I guess I'd have
> to go to the blood-sucking place and have them test me. But I think I am
> too frail to give much of anything.

Frankly, I think so, too. 107 pounds is nothing for someone your
height.

> In the past I have been anemic frequently, which precluded my giving
> in younger days when I had fleeting thoughts of being noble. (I am
> just above the anemia line now, which is why I am to take iron.)

Dark, leafy greens. Spinach and kale.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:42:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07385
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:42:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC735E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:45:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13342303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:51:36 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIpaC21521 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:51:36 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08947 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:51:35 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02
          14:51:36 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02 14:51:28 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D35836D.29986.1759569@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul  
            17, 2002  2:47:10 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D35846D.27400.1797EFC@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:51:26 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717184952.701057E78@yellow.rahul.net>

It would indeed.

:-)

BrP

> Would that be like a fair-weather friend?

>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:42:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07389
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:42:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC735F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:46:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13342307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:51:46 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIpjC21526 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:51:46 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0B6817D7B; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:51:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717185145.0B6817D7B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:51:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: my new name
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35BCAE.981F7DF@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 17,
              2002  2:51:26 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
> >
> > I know all of the qualitative answers to the question, but I was
> > serious - What IS the term?  Mass marketers?
>
> That's good. That can combine direct mail, spammers, and telemareting
> into one big ball.

Can we then throw the ball in the ocean?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:45:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07401
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:45:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7388@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:48:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13342396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:53:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIrnC21719 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:53:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E01647C1F; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:53:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717185344.E01647C1F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:53:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35846D.27400.1797EFC@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              17, 2002  2:51:26 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> It would indeed.
>
> :-)
>
> BrP
>
> > Would that be like a fair-weather friend?

To be honest, I had to think when I first saw your comment, because
it's been so long since I have heard that word. Has it been reclaimed?
Or am I reading too much into your comment?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:47:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07407
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:47:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC73A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:50:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13342519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:56:04 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIu4C21998 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:56:04 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10653 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:56:03 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02
          14:56:04 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02 14:56:03 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D35846D.27400.1797EFC@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul  
            17, 2002  2:51:26 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D35857E.19102.17DAB86@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:55:59 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717185344.E01647C1F@yellow.rahul.net>

It's a little dated - but then so am I.

-actually, I'm just in a silly mood

BrP


>
> To be honest, I had to think when I first saw your comment, because
> it's been so long since I have heard that word. Has it been reclaimed?
> Or am I reading too much into your comment?
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:49:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07419
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:49:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC73D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:52:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13342686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:57:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIvuC22326 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:57:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E695E7D9D; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 11:57:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717185746.E695E7D9D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:57:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35857E.19102.17DAB86@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              17, 2002  2:55:59 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> It's a little dated - but then so am I.
>
> -actually, I'm just in a silly mood

Clearly.:) I don't think you should have read that article about the
Bulwer Lytton.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:50:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07436
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:50:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC73EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:53:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13342756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:59:04 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIx4C22508 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:59:04 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11984 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:59:03 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02
          14:59:04 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02 14:59:03 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D35857E.19102.17DAB86@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul  
            17, 2002  2:55:59 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D358632.16298.1806A99@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:58:59 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717185746.E695E7D9D@yellow.rahul.net>

I didn't.


> Clearly.:) I don't think you should have read that article about the
> Bulwer Lytton.
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:51:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07440
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:51:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC740D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:54:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13342852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:59:49 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HIxiC22569 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:59:44 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZE00HLAQ3J2L@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:59:44 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020717184952.701057E78@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D35BE43.3020204@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:58:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Paul R. Barfoot said:
>
>>Ripe off the tree peaches
>>local strawberries
>>fresh figs
>>BrP
>>(no I'm not listing myself as a summer fruit)
>>
>
> Would that be like a fair-weather friend?
>
> I would add Orbs of Health.
>


I made Orbs of Health muffins for breakfast this morning.
 From scratch, of course.  Yum.  I'm going to gain 5 lbs.
while Dad is here.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:51:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07444
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:51:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00135442@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:59:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13342895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:59:54 -0400
Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.60]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6HIxsC22705 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          14:59:54 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0209.dialsprint.net ([63.190.0.209]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #1) id 17Uu1g-00007x-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 14:59:53 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D357E5D.5EA0FAB1@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35BEA8.E6B7616F@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:00:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
> less cutting.  It's been raining quite a bit the past week, though,
> making me wonder what's going to happen in early August.  I'm hoping to
> cut it the day before I leave (what if the rain is pouring that day??)
> and then pray that it won't be too wild a jungle by Aug. 14.

Gee, it's too bad you don't know anyone you could ask to mow your grass
while you're gone in August.

--
Sylvia Edwards
Litopia    http://www.edwardsly.com
Sylvie's Place    http://www.geocities.com/s.words/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:52:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07449
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:52:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC742A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:55:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13342979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:00:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HJ0mC23001 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:00:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A6D2B7D7B; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:00:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717190044.A6D2B7D7B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:00:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D358632.16298.1806A99@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              17, 2002  2:58:59 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> I didn't.

Uh-oh!

Well, as someone else mentioned, those people are Wordslers of the
wordst ilk.

> > Clearly.:) I don't think you should have read that article about the
> > Bulwer Lytton.
> >
> > Karen
>

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:52:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07454
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:52:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7436@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:55:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13343017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:01:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HJ1QC23124 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:01:26 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 69AE57C30; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:01:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717190122.69AE57C30@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:01:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35BE43.3020204@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 17,
              2002  1:58:11 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Paul R. Barfoot said:
> >
> >>Ripe off the tree peaches
> >>local strawberries
> >>fresh figs
> >>BrP
> >>(no I'm not listing myself as a summer fruit)
> >>
> >
> > Would that be like a fair-weather friend?
> >
> > I would add Orbs of Health.
> >
>
>
> I made Orbs of Health muffins for breakfast this morning.
>  From scratch, of course.  Yum.  I'm going to gain 5 lbs.
> while Dad is here.

Try the pie, Rita, you won't regret it. It's better than muffins.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:53:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07461
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:53:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013549C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:02:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13343224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:02:26 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HJ2QC23407 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:02:26 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id MAA37202 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          12:02:25 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207171159240.35098-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:02:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717185746.E695E7D9D@yellow.rahul.net>

I have used "fair-weather friend" recently to describe a friend of my
son, who I believe isn't a friend at all.  If it's no longer in use, can
you give me a more modern equivalent?

Sharon

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> Paul R. Barfoot said:
> > It's a little dated - but then so am I.
> >
> > -actually, I'm just in a silly mood
>
> Clearly.:) I don't think you should have read that article about the
> Bulwer Lytton.
>
> Karen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:54:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07465
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:54:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001354CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:03:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13343614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:02:56 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f96.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.96]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HJ2uC23757 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:02:56 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 12:02:51 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 19:02:50 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 19:02:51.0010 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[8C470620:01C22DC4]
Message-ID:  <F96BDu9CEIeq5mZoCIs00014892@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:02:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
>Forgot to say...I asked the doctor my blood type, because I never have
>known it. And he said that the only way you usually find out is to
>donate or receive blood, which I haven't.

I originally found out in 9th grade Biology class.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:54:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07474
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:54:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7547@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:58:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13343938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:03:44 -0400
Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.60]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6HJ3iC24086 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          15:03:44 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0209.dialsprint.net ([63.190.0.209]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #1) id 17Uu5N-00077E-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:03:42 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F101EnwkIROb0ILmN5q00017e16@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35BF8C.40BDADDB@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:03:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Anne Toal wrote:
>
> Who agrees with me that summer fruit is the most beautiful fruit of the
> year?

ME ME ME.  I hear some strawberries calling my name....   summer fruit
.... yum yum yum.
--
Sylvia Edwards
Litopia    http://www.edwardsly.com
Sylvie's Place    http://www.geocities.com/s.words/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:55:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07478
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:55:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC755B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:58:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13343984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:04:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HJ43C24156 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:04:03 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 128A47E78; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:03:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717190348.128A47E78@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:03:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207171159240.35098-100000@idiom.com> from Sharon
              Ziperovich at "Jul 17, 2002 12: 2:25 pm"

Sharon Ziperovich said:
> I have used "fair-weather friend" recently to describe a friend of my
> son, who I believe isn't a friend at all.  If it's no longer in use, can
> you give me a more modern equivalent?

We were actually talking about 'fruit'. I think 'fair-weather friend'
is still useful--I don't know how to say that.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:55:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07487
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:55:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7564@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:58:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13344008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:04:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HJ4OC24201 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:04:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D7DC07E78; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:04:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717190423.D7DC07E78@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:04:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F96BDu9CEIeq5mZoCIs00014892@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 17, 2002  3: 2:50 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
> >Forgot to say...I asked the doctor my blood type, because I never have
> >known it. And he said that the only way you usually find out is to
> >donate or receive blood, which I haven't.
>
> I originally found out in 9th grade Biology class.

I know I found out some time, but it didn't stick.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:55:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07497
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:55:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC756C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:59:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13344032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:04:38 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HJ4cC24237 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:04:38 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust226.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.228]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004001336@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:04:37 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020717185115.00F1C7CAF@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35C010.C7CC8DCB@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:05:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> Dark, leafy greens. Spinach and kale.

Don't think I ever have had kale. But I heart spinach. We have that and
collard greens frequently.

Last night I made myself a hot fudge sundae, btw. First time I've had
ice cream in prolly two years or more. Used to have it every summer
night, but got out of the habit. Maybe I'll get back into it now. But
that means foregoing the Hershey bars maybe. Would that not be too, too
much>

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:58:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07510
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 08:57:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0013556E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:06:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13344227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:06:47 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HJ6kC24598 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:06:46 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 475357EF1; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 12:06:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717190641.475357EF1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:06:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35C010.C7CC8DCB@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 17,
              2002  3: 5:52 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > >
> > Dark, leafy greens. Spinach and kale.
>
> Don't think I ever have had kale. But I heart spinach. We have that and
> collard greens frequently.

Kale with sesame, yum.

> Last night I made myself a hot fudge sundae, btw. First time I've had
> ice cream in prolly two years or more. Used to have it every summer
> night, but got out of the habit. Maybe I'll get back into it now. But
> that means foregoing the Hershey bars maybe. Would that not be too, too
> much>

Not until you gain too much weight.:)

We need to get you building muscle mass, too.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 09:03:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07540
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 09:03:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00135633@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:12:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13344833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:12:40 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HJCeC25770 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:12:40 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZE002Z6QP3OX@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:12:39 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <001001c22cfd$0d321810$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Message-ID:  <3D35C14A.6090403@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:11:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Alec D. Plotkin wrote:

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: English Language Discussion Group
>>[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rita Chapman
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 2:50 PM
>>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>Subject: Re: namibia
>>
>>
>>Peter Kaminski wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Rita Chapman writes,
>>>
>>>
>>>>PBS had a show last night, and now I want to go to Namibia
>>>>for vacation :).
>>>>
>>>
>>>Johanne spent a summer there back in the '80s, and loved it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Really?  That's great.  I can't get any of the usual web
>>sites to tell me how much airfare to the country would be.
>>But I'm going to save up.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Very expensive on Expedia.
>
> $2,719.84     Choose and continue
> 10:29 AM Depart St. Louis (STL)
> Arrive Windhoek (WDH) 8:10 PM +1 day  Tue 6-Aug
> 27hr 41mn    American Airlines 3140
>   Delta 7004 / 7057
> Connect in New York (JFK), Johannesburg (JNB)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
>
> 2:00 PM Depart Windhoek (ERS)
> Arrive St. Louis (STL) 12:17 PM +1 day  Wed 28-Aug
> 28hr 17mn    South African Airways 8715
>   Delta 7007 / 206
> Connect in Cape Town (CPT), Atlanta (ATL)
> Total stops: 3
>
>
>
>
> Above is just playing around. I am sure you could do it much cheaper.
>


Wow.  That is expensive.  I bet I could do better using
Lufthanser (sp?) since Namibia is a popular German tourist
spot.  28 hours of travel... I'd have to stay for a few
weeks at least to make that worth it.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 09:36:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07725
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 09:36:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7B64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:39:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13348232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:45:27 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HJjRC31545 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:45:27 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020717194521.WUSJ26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:45:21 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <001001c22cfd$0d321810$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717123316.02725790@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:41:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35C14A.6090403@swbell.net>

Rita Chapman writes,

>Wow.  That is expensive.  I bet I could do better using
>Lufthanser (sp?) since Namibia is a popular German tourist
>spot.

"Lufthansa."

Johanne flew down on Swissair, connecting through Zurich.  That was the
summer I was Eurailpassing through Europe with my ex-girlfriend Steff, so
we met Johanne in Zurich and toured around Switzerland for a couple days.

Steff and I had gone to high school with Joe, a Mormon, and Johanne came
with news from my family that he was on mission in Luzern -- so the three
of us sprung a surprise visit on him there, which was fun.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 09:41:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07759
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 09:41:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7C36@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:44:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13348851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:50:21 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HJoKC00397 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:50:20 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZE002G3SFWOS@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:50:20 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020717190122.69AE57C30@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D35CA1F.5010008@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:48:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Paul R. Barfoot said:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ripe off the tree peaches
>>>>local strawberries
>>>>fresh figs
>>>>BrP
>>>>(no I'm not listing myself as a summer fruit)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Would that be like a fair-weather friend?
>>>
>>>I would add Orbs of Health.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I made Orbs of Health muffins for breakfast this morning.
>> From scratch, of course.  Yum.  I'm going to gain 5 lbs.
>>while Dad is here.
>>
>
> Try the pie, Rita, you won't regret it. It's better than muffins.
>


I think I would regret it just as much as I regret the muffins!



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 09:42:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07771
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 09:42:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7C4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:45:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13348902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:50:53 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HJooC00479 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:50:50 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZE00208SGPPV@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:50:50 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <409E8B3C.45B09A76.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Message-ID:  <3D35CA3D.7040705@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:49:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

jbh wrote:

> Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET> wrote:
>
>
>
>>So, is it a reasonable place to want to visit?
>>
>
>>From everything I know, have seen on PBS, etc.  (we'll skip the Gravity's Rainbow conntection), I would say definitely yes.
>


Then we will need to make plans.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 09:44:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07780
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 09:44:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7C9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:47:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13349116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:52:51 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HJqoC00956 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:52:50 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6HJw1H26679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:58:01
          +0200
References: <3D35BC73.93B9DA06@valstar.net>
            <20020717185115.00F1C7CAF@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020717215801.A26657@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:58:01 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717185115.00F1C7CAF@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 11:51:15AM -0700

= > just above the anemia line now, which is why I am to take iron.)
=
= Dark, leafy greens. Spinach and kale.
=

We were talking about this at lunch the other day, when there was
spinach on the saladbar.  One of my collegues read an article
that said that spinach will leach out more nutrients than you get
from eating it.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 09:46:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07789
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 09:46:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7CD4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:49:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13349278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:55:06 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HJt5C01335 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:55:05 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc56 ([204.127.198.45]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020717195500.UKPG29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:55:00 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc56; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:54:58 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020717195500.UKPG29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:54:58 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I took Lufthansa to Italy and was not impressed when they
told me I'd missed my connecting flight. Sure this may
happen often but I could see the plane was still at the
gate so I *knew* I hadn't missed it but they'd overbooked it.

In order to get from Frankfurt to Florence we were booked
on two flights. One from Frankfurt to Munich and then
from Munich to Florence. This was after flying from
Boston to Frankfurt.

By the time we arrived in Florence we'd been travelling
for 24 hours. I was sick, tired and unimpressed with my
first view of Italy.

The trip back home went smoothly but they'd left such a
bad taste in my mouth, despite the yummy chocolates they
handed out on all their flights, I swore I'd never use
them again.

lisa
> Rita Chapman writes,
>
> >Wow.  That is expensive.  I bet I could do better using
> >Lufthanser (sp?) since Namibia is a popular German tourist
> >spot.
>
> "Lufthansa."
>
> Johanne flew down on Swissair, connecting through Zurich.  That was the
> summer I was Eurailpassing through Europe with my ex-girlfriend Steff, so
> we met Johanne in Zurich and toured around Switzerland for a couple days.
>
> Steff and I had gone to high school with Joe, a Mormon, and Johanne came
> with news from my family that he was on mission in Luzern -- so the three
> of us sprung a surprise visit on him there, which was fun.
>
> Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 09:48:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07793
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 09:48:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7CFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:51:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13349419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:57:34 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HJvXC01679 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:57:34 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6HK2ic26701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:02:44
          +0200
References: <20020717195500.UKPG29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020717220244.B26657@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:02:44 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717195500.UKPG29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>; from
              alfieri@ATTBI.COM on Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 07:54:58PM +0000

=
= The trip back home went smoothly but they'd left such a
= bad taste in my mouth, despite the yummy chocolates they
= handed out on all their flights, I swore I'd never use
= them again.
=
= lisa

We flew them on some trip, and there were no more non-smoking
seats left on the flight.  Lucky that was only on the leg to
Frankfurt, and after that no problem.  But they were just, well,
very German.  We also, will never fly them again.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 09:50:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07816
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 09:50:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7D24@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:53:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13349499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:58:54 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HJwsC01819 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:58:54 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6HK44l26710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:04:04
          +0200
References: <409E8B3C.45B09A76.0099AB05@netscape.net>
            <3D35CA3D.7040705@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020717220404.C26657@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:04:04 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35CA3D.7040705@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Wed,
              Jul 17, 2002 at 02:49:17PM -0500

=
= Then we will need to make plans.
=

Even though I haven't done any research myself yet, I want to go
on the trip too.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 09:52:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07823
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 09:52:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7D6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:55:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13349718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:00:49 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HK0nC02229 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:00:49 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws210-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.210]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HK0iq12711
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:00:45 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D3546E5.24712.76D7FE@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35CC9E.CE8985A1@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:59:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> Isn't there someone who would stop by and take a look while you're
> gone and cut it if it needs it?

This is the kind of <arrangement> I'd rather not have to try to make,
for various reasons.  One is that the one time I tried it that way
before (check and cut if needed), I came home to a jungle because the
person had forgotten.  The same thing happened once when I in fact paid
in advance and said cut once whenever it fits your schedule.  He also
forgot.  Another problem is that it's getting really hard to find
individual grass-cutters of the old-fashioned kind these days, whether
teenagers or adults -- the kind who used to push their lawnmowers down
the street and would take on new customers, even a one-cutting-only
customer.  Is that true everywhere or just here?  Everything here now
seems to be <Lawn Services> -- groups of men (occasionally a woman in
the group) with trucks that say So-n-So Lawn Service on the side, out of
which trucks roll various riding mowers and assorted other equipment.
And these people don't do one-time-only cutting, much less
check-and-cut-if-needed.  They contract for the whole year.  Surely
there are some that will do short-term contracts, but not the ones I've
talked to.  Iow, making arrangements ain't easy.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 09:53:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07829
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 09:53:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7D8E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:56:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13349806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:02:18 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HK2IC02453 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:02:18 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws210-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.210]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HK2Gq13259
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:02:16 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020717143431.EC6098159@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35CD45.41583D41@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:02:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poll: Favorite Japanese Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > at least seven courses and that many of them have indeed included raw
> > daikon.
>
> As a garnish or a dish? I've never been served a bowl of raw daikon.

I wouldn't call it a garnish the way I've seen it since it's in a
separate bowl.  But all those zillions of tiny bowls and plates that
arrive with each course of a Japanese meal might make it possible to
consider it a garnish.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 09:53:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07833
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 09:53:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7D91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:56:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13349815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:02:27 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HK2QC02468 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:02:26 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6HK7bY26727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:07:37
          +0200
References: <20020717185828.A26150@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020717172114.5081D8138@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020717220737.D26657@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:07:37 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717172114.5081D8138@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 10:21:14AM -0700

= > far is that he is impressed with my skills, but has a less
= > expensive less skilled candidate who is also worth considering.
=
= Argh! If you were here, I'd say that means you don't have a chance.:(
=

If I didn't have a chance, he probably would have said so.

= Cool. I'm delighted that you're getting interviews at all!
=
= Karen

Getting interviews doesn't appear to be a problem.  Clicking is
the problem.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 09:55:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07837
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 09:55:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7DAF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:58:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13349913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:03:48 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HK3mC02629 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:03:48 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws210-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.210]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HK3jq13853
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:03:45 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020717143632.B9321811D@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35CD9E.FFC9D247@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:03:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: For Karen
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Satsumaimo makes it not a summer think. The rest are things I'm
> thinking about.

I don't think of that as non-summer.  I've sat on a curb in the heart of
Tokyo on a hot day eating some satsumaino bought from a nearby vendor.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 09:56:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07846
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 09:56:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00135DFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:05:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13350135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:05:32 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HK5VC03008 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:05:31 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc57 ([204.127.198.46]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020717200526.XPQF26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:05:26 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc57; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:05:25 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020717200526.XPQF26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:05:25 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>But they were just, well, very German.  We also, will
never >fly them again.

Yes, very German indeed.

When they were rescheduling us all over the place I told
the woman I wanted something for my troubles. She said,
"you're getting something, you're getting re-routed. We
don't give you anything more".

She didn't say another word to me after that, just handed
me my tickets and point in the direction of the newly
assigned terminal.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 09:57:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07860
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 09:57:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7E42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:00:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13350462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:06:33 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HK6XC03864 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:06:33 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws210-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.210]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HK6Vq14773
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:06:31 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207171025410.15098-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35CE44.91D0FFA5@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:06:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> > Isn't there someone who would stop by and take a look while you're
> > gone and cut it if it needs it?
>
> HA HA HA HA HA she's supposed to -ask- for -help-?

?  I get my hair cut, I get my car serviced, I do all kinds of things
that involve asking for help.  Surely Paul didn't mean ask somebody to
cut it as a favor.  We're not talking about a matchbox yard.  We're
talking over two hours of hot, nasty labor just for the most basic of
cutting -- no frills like weed-eating included.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 09:59:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07874
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 09:59:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7E7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:02:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13350609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:07:50 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HK7oC04124 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:07:50 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws210-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.210]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HK7lq15276
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:07:47 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F104pxK3kIf5uB2cP6100017abd@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35CE90.54CE7268@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:07:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Anne Toal wrote:

> There are these people who run "lawn services" that will do this for you, no
> favors attached, all you have to do is pay them the money!!! Now, doubtless

Can you hire lawn services there in the middle of the summer for one or
two cuttings?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:00:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07886
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:00:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7E8E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:03:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13350660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:09:10 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HK99C04270 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:09:10 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws210-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.210]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HK96q15782
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:09:07 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D34B603.F1228096@maynor.net> <3D358DDF.6846FF1E@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35CEE0.4EEF4504@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:09:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Today is Indeed the Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> > Col Hannum:  The bday is today, not tomorrow.
>
> So happy birthday, Brad. Because you are behind in reading list mail,
> you probably wouldn't have read this on time anyway.

But you're saying it a day too late.  Maybe he won't notice that.  The
today it was was yesterday.  So you're saying it on the tomorrow of my
posting.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:01:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07946
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:01:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7E9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:03:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13350712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:09:36 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HK9aC04371 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:09:36 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11629 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:09:13 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02
          16:09:14 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02 16:09:10 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3596A0.5449.1C09ACB@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:09:06 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35CC9E.CE8985A1@maynor.net>

You should come to Syracuse. Lots of people - teens and adults
do private lawn cutting here (I wonder if they're paying their taxes?).

BrP


> forgot.  Another problem is that it's getting really hard to find
> individual grass-cutters of the old-fashioned kind these days, whether
> teenagers or adults -- the kind who used to push their lawnmowers down
> the street and would take on new customers, even a one-cutting-only
> customer.  Is that true everywhere or just here?  Everything here now
> seems to be <Lawn Services> -- groups of men (occasionally a woman in
> the group) with trucks that say So-n-So Lawn Service on the side, out of
> which trucks roll various riding mowers and assorted other equipment.
> And these people don't do one-time-only cutting, much less
> check-and-cut-if-needed.  They contract for the whole year.  Surely
> there are some that will do short-term contracts, but not the ones I've
> talked to.  Iow, making arrangements ain't easy.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:04:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08056
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:04:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7EF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:07:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13350952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:13:19 -0400
Received: from color.sics.se (color.sics.se [193.10.66.199]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKDJC05026 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:13:19 -0400
Received: from scheutz.sics.se (scheutz.sics.se [193.10.66.136]) by
          color.sics.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA20322 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:13:18 +0200 (MET DST)
          env-to (<WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>) env-from (torkel@scheutz.sics.se)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <200207172013.WAA20322@color.sics.se>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:13:18 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Torkel Franzén <torkel@SICS.SE>
Subject:      Re: Brevet brigadier?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:39:49 EDT." 
              <5.1.0.14.0.20020717093856.00a00e30@pop3.norton.antivirus>

  >Oh what fun for Marcia.  URL??

  http://www.contours.co.uk/residential-new/yorkshire-dales.html

  >And how wonderful for Torkel to be home
  >alone with the cats being visited by profound questions.

  Yes indeed. On the main business street in Luleå there are little
bears carved in stone, about the size of a poodle. As I walked
there today I saw an Alsatian puppy, maybe five months old, who
had spotted one of these stone bears and was growling at it,
crouched low to the ground, afraid to attack the bear but
pointing out the real and present danger it represented. His
mistress brought him up close to the bear and managed to convince
him that it was in fact a fake. About half an hour later I came
upon this same puppy tied up in front of a store and we exchanged
nose lickings.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:05:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08061
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:05:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC7F00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:08:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13350993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:13:50 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKDnC05119 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:13:49 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws210-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.210]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HKDiq17427
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:13:45 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162128560.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D3590C9.5B3ECB17@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35CFF5.7FECD44A@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:13:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> I think that Knox County considers consulting to be a business. It is
> around here.

Wouldn't there be some kind of dividing line between doing very
occasional consulting (or whatever), not producing much money, and doing
lots of consulting (or whatever)?  I can't imagine that everybody who
ever adds a small figure to the "other income" line on the tax form is
considered a business.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:11:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08093
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:11:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00136040@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:20:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13350784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:20:40 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKAdC04600 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:10:39 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6HKAcUh005165 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:10:38 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207171610210.24470-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:10:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3596A0.5449.1C09ACB@localhost>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

>You should come to Syracuse. Lots of people - teens and adults
>do private lawn cutting here (I wonder if they're paying their taxes?).

All those businesses!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:13:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08117
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:13:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001360B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:22:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13351942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:22:33 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKMWC06862 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:22:32 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws210-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.210]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HKMSq21086
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:22:29 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D351AA1.19041.108BA60@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35D200.45CD426B@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:22:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Michael E. Macmillan" wrote:
>
> On 17 Jul 2002 at 10:29, Anne Toal wrote:
>
> > There are these people who run "lawn services" that will do this for
> > you, no favors attached, all you have to do is pay them the money!!!
>
> Please, don't confuse the kind of services available in a metropolis like
> Edinburg with those likely to be available in Dogp^H^H^H^HStarkvile.

?  They're what everybody in my neighborhood uses.  I haven't seen an
old-fashioned grass-cutter in this neighborhood at any time.  I miss the
old days when you could hire somebody more easily (and for less money).
Why is grass-cutting so expensive?  When you think about what various
kinds of laborers make per hour in various kinds of jobs, the amount
charged by people who cut grass seems exhorbitant.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:15:31 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08127
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:15:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001360F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:24:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13352073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:24:16 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f110.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.110]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKODC07140 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:24:15 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 13:24:08 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 20:24:07 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 20:24:08.0233 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[E7543190:01C22DCF]
Message-ID:  <F1102NXHwGrRDyjLQoO00017eb1@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:24:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>customer.  Is that true everywhere or just here?  Everything here now
>seems to be <Lawn Services> --

These guys are taking over everywhere. The old-style lawn man who worked on
everything in your yard is a dying breed. The last time we had one, my
mother was alive, and the man was older than she was. He was wonderful,
treated the yard as if he owned it, and except for that one time when he
caught and later killed and ate a cattle egret, was just like one of the
family.

These lawn services guys are highly mechanized. They deploy six shock troops
with riding mowers, Weedeaters, and leaf blowers and are through with your
yard in 30 minutes. All the little extras that make your yard look
well-kept, like, say, taking a downed branch away, or trimming the
shrubberies, well just forget that. Or if you want those services, you have
to arrange a week in advance so they can bring guys to do it. They must keep
to that half-hour limit or they don't make money.

I don't like the lawn services; they act like they don't give a good damn
about your yard or the quality of work they show. It's all zip, zip, zip.
But still, it beats getting out there and doing it myself.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:17:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08131
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:17:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC80EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:20:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13352373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:25:48 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f139.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.139]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKPmC07789 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:25:48 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 13:25:42 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 20:25:42 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 20:25:42.0705 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[1FA37A10:01C22DD0]
Message-ID:  <F139ARdkfwuciGbN23W000079a2@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:25:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Can you hire lawn services there in the middle of the summer for one or
>two cuttings?

Yes--

-a

_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:17:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08135
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:17:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC80F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:20:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13352393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:25:56 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKPtC07832 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:25:55 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6HKPtsS052231 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          16:25:55 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000801c22dd0$27d78b40$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:25:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Doctor visit report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35B1DB.DFC9785C@valstar.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of alyce cresap
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:05 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Doctor visit report
>
>
> 107 lbs. which is up a little from June.
> BP 137/73
> Pulse (seated) 62
> Cholesterol 193
> "Good" Choleeterol 61
> Advised to take iron and vitamin C
>
Don't take too much iron. Or you will need a strong laxative.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:18:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08139
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:18:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC8107@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:21:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13352483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:26:56 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKQuC08071 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:26:56 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws210-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.210]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HKQsq23432
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:26:54 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020717180811.738897F10@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35D30B.5DF34642@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:26:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Why would it be handy to know? Before they gave you blood they'd type
> you anyway. And ditto for you giving.

Because she might meet a Japanese young person who would of course want
to know her blood type.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:19:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08159
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:19:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00136171@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:28:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13352610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:28:01 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKRvC08356 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:27:57 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19118 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:27:55 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02
          16:27:56 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 17 Jul 02 16:27:27 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D359AE6.21984.44B0E@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:27:19 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F1102NXHwGrRDyjLQoO00017eb1@hotmail.com>

and they spray nasty chemicals all over everything.  When I was
delivering papers I used to get sick to my stomach after trudging
across all of the freshly sprayed lawns.

BrP



> I don't like the lawn services; they act like they don't give a good damn
> about your yard or the quality of work they show. It's all zip, zip, zip.
> But still, it beats getting out there and doing it myself.
>
> -aht
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:20:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08165
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:20:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC8144@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:23:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13352664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:28:53 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKSqC08524 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:28:52 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws210-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.210]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HKSnq24375
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:28:49 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D35B27E.37B9E123@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 17,
            2002  2: 7:58 pm" <3D357B39.28707.1558AF6@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35D37E.A2746516@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:28:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> I understand. It's not really important, but one of those pieces of
> data that it's nice to know.  Sort of like know ing the names of your
> great great grandparents or something.

Now that I think about it, I didn't know mine until the first time I
gave blood.  I called to ask for it a few days later because I was
curious (for reasons I no longer remember).  So I lived the first
twenty-two years of my life with blood type <unknown>.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:22:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08172
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:22:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC817D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:25:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13352807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:31:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKVVC08910 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:31:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2DB9C80CB; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:31:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717203130.2DB9C80CB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:31:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35CA1F.5010008@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 17,
              2002  2:48:47 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> I think I would regret it just as much as I regret the muffins!

Well. I ate half a pie by myself, but I don't regret it. I think I'll
make cranberry muffins later on.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:23:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08177
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:23:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC818D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:26:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13352846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:32:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKWYC09038 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:32:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3C4737D12; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:32:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717203233.3C4737D12@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:32:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717215801.A26657@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              17, 2002  9:58: 1 pm"

steph said:
> = > just above the anemia line now, which is why I am to take iron.)
> =
> = Dark, leafy greens. Spinach and kale.
> =
>
> We were talking about this at lunch the other day, when there was
> spinach on the saladbar.  One of my collegues read an article
> that said that spinach will leach out more nutrients than you get
> from eating it.

Doesn't chocolate have iron?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:24:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08183
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:24:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013621B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:33:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13352927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:33:23 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKXNC09233 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:33:23 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6HKXNsS123118 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          16:33:23 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000901c22dd1$32951100$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:33:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35C14A.6090403@swbell.net>

>
> Wow.  That is expensive.  I bet I could do better using
> Lufthanser (sp?) since Namibia is a popular German tourist
> spot.  28 hours of travel... I'd have to stay for a few
> weeks at least to make that worth it.
>
>
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita
>
>

Lufthansa is usually more expensive and their service is less then
wonderful. SAA is a very good airline.



alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:25:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08206
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:25:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00136246@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:34:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13353011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:34:34 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKYYC09395 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:34:34 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws210-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.210]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HKYPq26601
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:34:29 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207171139100.14924-100000@idiom.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35D4CE.4DEAC1FA@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:34:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sharon Ziperovich wrote:

> > Well, that's true. But surely Alyce would know that by now if she were?
> >
> How would she know? I have no idea what blood type I am, or my parents for
> that matter.  Though I have had a minor surgery.  Do you suppose they
> would have determined my blood type then as a precaution and it's in my
> file somewhere?

If you've given blood, it would be on file, but I don't know that you
would necessarily be told what it is unless you asked -- unless it was
rare or special, in which case it might be solicited by the
blood-suckers.  I used to think mine was solicited simply because it's
0-neg, thus the universal donor.  But then I found out that CVT(??)
thing (we discussed it here a while back) -- the thing that makes my
blood super-duperly special.  It's used in newborn babies, not wasted on
older people.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:26:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08211
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:26:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013624B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:34:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13353024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:34:46 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKYjC09425 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:34:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5913C806D; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:34:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717203444.5913C806D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:34:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717220737.D26657@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              17, 2002 10: 7:37 pm"

steph said:
> Getting interviews doesn't appear to be a problem.  Clicking is
> the problem.

Well, it could be worse--you could be like me and not getting interviews.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:26:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08215
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:26:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC81CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:29:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13353046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:34:56 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f309.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.184]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKYuC09466 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:34:56 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 13:34:50 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 20:34:50 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 20:34:50.0761 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[664E2F90:01C22DD1]
Message-ID:  <F309sX6L3MzaopzUCwN00014eca@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:34:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
>(no I'm not listing myself as a summer fruit)

Fruit of all seasons?

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:27:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08223
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:27:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC81EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:30:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13353113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:36:27 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f234.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.234]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKaRC09641 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:36:27 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 13:36:22 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 20:36:21 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 20:36:22.0078 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[9CBC0DE0:01C22DD1]
Message-ID:  <F234TFIHFrl0SHHR6y4000154b9@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:36:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>and they spray nasty chemicals all over everything.

That's a different kind of lawn service. Something like that would be
contracted from Chem-Lawn or some such entity. More like having an
exterminator than a yard service. Once a year I buy a 50-pound bag of yard
food pellets and have the guys spread it on the lawn, but that's not the
kind of thing you're talking about.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:31:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08251
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:31:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC8279@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:34:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13353519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:40:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKeUC10336 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:40:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D0A267DFE; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:37:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717203728.D0A267DFE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:37:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: For Karen
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35CD9E.FFC9D247@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 17,
              2002  3: 3:42 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Satsumaimo makes it not a summer think. The rest are things I'm
> > thinking about.
>
> I don't think of that as non-summer.  I've sat on a curb in the heart of
> Tokyo on a hot day eating some satsumaino bought from a nearby vendor.

You know best.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:33:12 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08258
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:33:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0013636E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:41:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13353670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:41:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKfuC10693 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:41:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1AC118211; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717204102.1AC118211@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:41:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F309sX6L3MzaopzUCwN00014eca@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 17, 2002  4:34:50 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
> >(no I'm not listing myself as a summer fruit)
>
> Fruit of all seasons?

For. Yes.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:33:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08262
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:33:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC82A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:36:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13353703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:42:19 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKgIC10796 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:42:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 682EB8233; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:41:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717204148.682EB8233@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:41:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F234TFIHFrl0SHHR6y4000154b9@hotmail.com> from Anne Toal at "Jul
              17, 2002  3:36:21 pm"

Anne Toal said:
> exterminator than a yard service. Once a year I buy a 50-pound bag of yard
> food pellets and have the guys spread it on the lawn, but that's not the
> kind of thing you're talking about.

Why do you do this?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:36:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08268
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:36:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001363E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:45:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13353902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:45:37 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKjbC11361 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:45:37 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6HKjasS019462 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          16:45:36 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000d01c22dd2$e7f59a50$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:45:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35B27E.37B9E123@valstar.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of alyce cresap
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:08 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Blood type
>
>
> Forgot to say...I asked the doctor my blood type, because I never have
> known it. And he said that the only way you usually find out is to
> donate or receive blood, which I haven't. That sounds strange to me. I
> think it would be handy to know. He just shrugged.
> --
> alyce

Any testing lab can do a bloodtype. When he does your counts to check
for anemia, he can add bloodtype. It is a very cheap and quick test.
When you were hospitalized they most likely typed you also, in case you
needed blood. Have a wife who has been transfused 6 or more times and
you learn a lot about blood types. She is A+ .


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:45:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08340
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:45:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013652C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:54:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13354666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:54:21 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKsLC13440 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:54:21 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1098B7FD9; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 13:54:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717205418.1098B7FD9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:54:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000d01c22dd2$e7f59a50$48305b80@EAGLE72> from "Alec D. Plotkin"
              at "Jul 17, 2002  4:45:37 pm"

Alec D. Plotkin said:
> needed blood. Have a wife who has been transfused 6 or more times and
> you learn a lot about blood types. She is A+ .

I think so, too.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:49:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08348
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:49:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC8458@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:52:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13355036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:58:03 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HKw3C14351 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:58:03 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust68.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.70]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005312238@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 16:57:59 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207171025410.15098-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <3D35CE44.91D0FFA5@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35DA9F.752C1530@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:59:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>   Surely Paul didn't mean ask somebody to
> cut it as a favor.

No, I am sure he doesn't. But why don't you ask the man who takes care
of everything in your old neighborhood to find someone to do your grass
cutting. You often said that he can provide every sort of service.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:51:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08356
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:51:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC84CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:54:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13355390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 17:00:21 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HL0LC14888 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:00:21 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust68.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.70]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005312294@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 17:00:08 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D34B603.F1228096@maynor.net> <3D358DDF.6846FF1E@valstar.net>
            <3D35CEE0.4EEF4504@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35DB20.850BD717@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:01:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Today is Indeed the Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> But you're saying it a day too late.  Maybe he won't notice that.  The
> today it was was yesterday.  So you're saying it on the tomorrow of my
> posting.

I know that. Still, he is so far behind in reading words-l that he will
not know what day I sent it. Today, btw, is the 45th birthday of Doug
and Jeff, making me feel ancient, but happy for having them.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:55:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08382
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:55:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00136747@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:04:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13356435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 17:03:58 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HL3vC15893 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:03:57 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6HL3vsS407241 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          17:03:57 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <001001c22dd5$7815e520$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:03:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35D4CE.4DEAC1FA@maynor.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 4:34 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Blood type
>
>
> Sharon Ziperovich wrote:
>
> > > Well, that's true. But surely Alyce would know that by
> now if she were?
> > >
> > How would she know? I have no idea what blood type I am, or
> my parents for
> > that matter.  Though I have had a minor surgery.  Do you
> suppose they
> > would have determined my blood type then as a precaution
> and it's in my
> > file somewhere?
>
> If you've given blood, it would be on file, but I don't know that you
> would necessarily be told what it is unless you asked -- unless it was
> rare or special, in which case it might be solicited by the
> blood-suckers.  I used to think mine was solicited simply because it's
> 0-neg, thus the universal donor.  But then I found out that CVT(??)
> thing (we discussed it here a while back) -- the thing that makes my
> blood super-duperly special.  It's used in newborn babies,
> not wasted on
> older people.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>

Close, but no cigar, CMV.  Cytomegalovirus.

alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:55:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08392
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:55:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013676D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:04:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13356513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 17:04:43 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HL4hC16006 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:04:43 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust68.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.70]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005312418@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 17:04:22 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000801c22dd0$27d78b40$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35DC1E.1CE800C6@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:05:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Doctor visit report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:
>
> Don't take too much iron. Or you will need a strong laxative.

Ooooh. OK.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:59:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08398
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 10:59:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC86A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:02:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13356754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 17:07:45 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HL7jC16425 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:07:45 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust68.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.70]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004004257@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 17:02:23 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207162128560.24699-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D3590C9.5B3ECB17@valstar.net> <3D35CFF5.7FECD44A@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35DBA7.2E6DCF87@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:03:35 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
> I can't imagine that everybody who
> ever adds a small figure to the "other income" line on the tax form is
> considered a business.

I agree. I reiterate that I think it has to do with wishing to deduct
expenses, and in the back of my mind I think I remember Bethany
mentioning incurring expenses in connection with some work she was
doing.

alyce, always ready to be proved wrong and humiliated
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 11:11:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08456
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 11:11:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00136951@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:19:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13357631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 17:19:51 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HLJpC18227 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:19:51 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000083;
          17 Jul 02 17:19:27 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 17 Jul 02
          17:19:10 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000082; 17 Jul 02 17:19:03 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <20020717183456.4AB637C5D@yellow.rahul.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D35A707.29112.CF6F44C4@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:19:03 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207171139100.14924-100000@idiom.com>

On Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 11:41, Sharon Ziperovich wrote:

> I have no idea what blood type I am, or my parents
> for that matter.  Though I have had a minor surgery.  Do you suppose
> they would have determined my blood type then as a precaution and it's
> in my file somewhere?

Yup. They don't want to be wasting time if you have an emergency
during surgery, however minor. There's always O- for that case, of
course, but it's often in short supply.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 11:17:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08499
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 11:17:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC8DA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:20:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13357901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 17:26:31 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HLQVC18928 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:26:31 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000085;
          17 Jul 02 17:26:07 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 17 Jul 02
          17:25:57 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000084; 17 Jul 02 17:25:53 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D35A8A1.2491.CF75874E@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:25:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Electric stoves?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020715011921.80C8985E8@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 18:19, Karen Kay wrote:

> Okay, I have this electric stove that is original to this house, so
> it's 17 years old. The small front burner stopped working, so I
> swapped in the small back burner--and it doesn't work either. What
> else can be wrong? And is it easily fixable?

Did anyone answer this? I don't remember seeing it.

First, does the formerly-front burner work in the back, i.e. does the
problem go with the burner or the location?

Either a fuse has gone in the stove, or a wire or connection has
gone. The latter may have provoked the former. The fuses are probably
under a flip-up lid along the top, back edge of the unit, but there
are other places they could be. (I'm assuming this is not a builtin
unit, but rather the typical sort of freestanding thing that usually
sits between two stretches of countertop.)

If a fuse is visibly burned out, then replace it. but be prepared for
the new one to go too. If the inside of the fuse is charred or
splattered looking, then it was a quick burnout probably caused by a
short. If it is just melted through without splatters, then it was a
slow overload. Regardless, there's always a cause. If there's no
blown fuse (or if the new one blows right away), then you need to
check wiring to the burners. More about that if needed.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 11:18:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08503
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 11:18:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC8DAF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:21:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13357450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 17:26:45 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f54.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.54]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HLGiC17864 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:16:44 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 14:16:39 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:16:38 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 21:16:39.0383 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[3D8F8670:01C22DD7]
Message-ID:  <F54Sw5ZX4IayYxACN5l0000efff@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:16:38 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

'kay, it's official - NamibiaFest 2004. This will give everyone
enough time to line up vacation time and travel money.

(Sorry for horning in on your trip, Rita, but this thread
is making me very gelous. I *have* to go.)

-rashmi


>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: English Language Discussion Group
>>[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rita Chapman
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 2:50 PM
>>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>Subject: Re: namibia
>>
>>
>>Peter Kaminski wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Rita Chapman writes,
>>>
>>>
>>>>PBS had a show last night, and now I want to go to Namibia
>>>>for vacation :).
>>>>
>>>
>>>Johanne spent a summer there back in the '80s, and loved it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Really?  That's great.  I can't get any of the usual web
>>sites to tell me how much airfare to the country would be.
>>But I'm going to save up.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Very expensive on Expedia.
>
>$2,719.84     Choose and continue
>10:29 AM Depart St. Louis (STL)
>Arrive Windhoek (WDH) 8:10 PM +1 day  Tue 6-Aug
>27hr 41mn    American Airlines 3140
>   Delta 7004 / 7057
>Connect in New York (JFK), Johannesburg (JNB)
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>--------
>
>2:00 PM Depart Windhoek (ERS)
>Arrive St. Louis (STL) 12:17 PM +1 day  Wed 28-Aug
>28hr 17mn    South African Airways 8715
>   Delta 7007 / 206
>Connect in Cape Town (CPT), Atlanta (ATL)
>Total stops: 3
>
>
>
>
>Above is just playing around. I am sure you could do it much cheaper.
>


Wow.  That is expensive.  I bet I could do better using
Lufthanser (sp?) since Namibia is a popular German tourist
spot.  28 hours of travel... I'd have to stay for a few
weeks at least to make that worth it.



_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 11:22:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08531
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 11:22:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC8E15@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:25:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13358322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 17:31:34 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HLVYC19967 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:31:34 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-16.panax.com
          [65.114.190.16]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6HLVXj31802 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          17:31:33 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <000801c22dd0$27d78b40$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717172919.00a0eec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:31:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Doctor visit report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35DC1E.1CE800C6@valstar.net>

> > Don't take too much iron. Or you will need a strong laxative.
>
>Ooooh. OK.
>alyce

Back when I had to take iron, my doctor told me the specific supplement to
take that also has a stool softener in it.  I forget the name but it was
available at the grocery store.  She also said that when you get anemic,
you really do have to take supplements.  Simply eating better won't
help.  Eating well might keep you from becoming anemic.  But once there,
you need to supplement iron.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 11:23:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08536
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 11:23:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC8E20@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:26:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13358380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 17:32:27 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HLWRC20155 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:32:27 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6HLWQ028655
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:32:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F54Sw5ZX4IayYxACN5l0000efff@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35E432.B44E5E38@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:40:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

John Hannum, can you make it??

Rashmi Murthy wrote:
>
> 'kay, it's official - NamibiaFest 2004. This will give everyone
> enough time to line up vacation time and travel money.
>
> (Sorry for horning in on your trip, Rita, but this thread
> is making me very gelous. I *have* to go.)
>
> -rashmi
>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: English Language Discussion Group
> >>[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rita Chapman
> >>Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 2:50 PM
> >>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >>Subject: Re: namibia
> >>
> >>
> >>Peter Kaminski wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Rita Chapman writes,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>PBS had a show last night, and now I want to go to Namibia
> >>>>for vacation :).
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Johanne spent a summer there back in the '80s, and loved it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>Really?  That's great.  I can't get any of the usual web
> >>sites to tell me how much airfare to the country would be.
> >>But I'm going to save up.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Very expensive on Expedia.
> >
> >$2,719.84     Choose and continue
> >10:29 AM Depart St. Louis (STL)
> >Arrive Windhoek (WDH) 8:10 PM +1 day  Tue 6-Aug
> >27hr 41mn    American Airlines 3140
> >   Delta 7004 / 7057
> >Connect in New York (JFK), Johannesburg (JNB)
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >--------
> >
> >2:00 PM Depart Windhoek (ERS)
> >Arrive St. Louis (STL) 12:17 PM +1 day  Wed 28-Aug
> >28hr 17mn    South African Airways 8715
> >   Delta 7007 / 206
> >Connect in Cape Town (CPT), Atlanta (ATL)
> >Total stops: 3
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Above is just playing around. I am sure you could do it much cheaper.
> >
>
> Wow.  That is expensive.  I bet I could do better using
> Lufthanser (sp?) since Namibia is a popular German tourist
> spot.  28 hours of travel... I'd have to stay for a few
> weeks at least to make that worth it.
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 11:46:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08654
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 11:46:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC8FF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:49:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13359237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 17:55:20 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f140.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.140]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HLjKC22084 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:45:20 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 14:45:15 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:45:13 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 21:45:15.0236 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[3C49EA40:01C22DDB]
Message-ID:  <F140tXtG4vDCOTSt39L00001cfe@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:45:13 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Last Thanksgiving I flew Lufthansa from Philly to Bangalore.
It was my most relaxed trip to India - no delays, no hassles,
no lost bags (hi Elaine!), courteous service, okay food - German efficiency
at its best. All this on top of non-stop connection
from Frankfurt to Bangalore - unbeatable. I'm definitely going
to use them next time I visit the 'rents.

-rashmi


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 11:47:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08658
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 11:47:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00136D17@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:56:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13360114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 17:56:05 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HLu5C24002 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:56:05 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws59-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.59]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HLu0q28459
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:56:01 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F101EnwkIROb0ILmN5q00017e16@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35E7ED.F25CDB88@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:55:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Anne Toal wrote:
>
> Who agrees with me that summer fruit is the most beautiful fruit of the
> year? Apricots, golden yellow with a sprinkling of red freckles on the top

Speaking of Japanese food, the produce section of Japanese grocery
stores is sheer beauty any time of the year, but the summer fruits are
truly amazing.  (The stories you have perhaps heard about $100
cantaloups etc. are true, btw, but not all fruit is that expensive.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 11:52:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08684
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 11:52:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC90BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:55:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13360688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 18:01:23 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HM1NC24904 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:01:23 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws59-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.59]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HM1Iq00330
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:01:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020717183456.4AB637C5D@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D35BC73.93B9DA06@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35E92B.13287591@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:01:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> How would I know? I was trying to find out and failed. I guess I'd have
> to go to the blood-sucking place and have them test me. But I think I am
> too frail to give much of anything.

I don't know exactly what the minimum weight is for giving blood, but
there is one -- and I do think you wouldn't be eligible.

> In the past I have been anemic
> frequently, which precluded my giving in younger days when I had
> fleeting thoughts of being noble. (I am just above the anemia line now,
> which is why I am to take iron.)

As we've discussed before, my blood often floats instead of sinking,
meaning that the blood-suckers have to turn me away.  But certainly not
always.  (I don't think of giving blood as <noble> -- I think of it as
<normal> for people who are eligible to do so.  I find it way weird that
people who have no reason not to give blood don't do so.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 11:56:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08707
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 11:56:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9105@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:59:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13360940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 18:05:07 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HM57C25436 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:05:07 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws59-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.59]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HM54q01781
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:05:04 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D357E5D.5EA0FAB1@maynor.net>
            <3D35BEA8.E6B7616F@pop.mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35EA0D.12928E0F@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:05:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sylvia Edwards wrote:

> Gee, it's too bad you don't know anyone you could ask to mow your grass
> while you're gone in August.

?  I'm not going to be gone the whole month.  If I were, then I would of
course have to keep calling until I found somebody who would take on a
short-term deal.  As I said earlier, even though making such
arrangements has always been a hassle, I do dislike these modern times
with their <lawn services> that just say no to short-term needs.  (And,
as I also said, I really haven't inquired of every single one in town.
I have inquired of several, though, and found that some of those took no
new customers at all, even long-term ones, because they were totally
booked and that none of them would do a one or two time thing.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 11:57:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08729
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 11:57:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9115@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:00:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13360998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 18:06:31 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HM6VC25570 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:06:31 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws59-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.59]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HM6Rq02306
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:06:28 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207171159240.35098-100000@idiom.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35EA60.5299ED40@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:06:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sharon Ziperovich wrote:
>
> I have used "fair-weather friend" recently to describe a friend of my
> son, who I believe isn't a friend at all.  If it's no longer in use, can
> you give me a more modern equivalent?

Huh?  I wasn't paying much attention to that exchange about fair-weather
friends and didn't realize that it was that term that was said to be
dated.  I use it frequently.  It has never occurred to me to think that
it was archaic in any way.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:04:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08750
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 12:04:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9180@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:07:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13361367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 18:12:58 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HMCvC26356 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:12:58 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3E834827B; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 15:12:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020717221257.3E834827B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:12:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Electric stoves?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35A8A1.2491.CF75874E@localhost> from Tony Harminc at "Jul 17,
              2002  5:25:53 pm"

Tony Harminc said:
> On Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 18:19, Karen Kay wrote:
> > Okay, I have this electric stove that is original to this house, so
> > it's 17 years old. The small front burner stopped working, so I
> > swapped in the small back burner--and it doesn't work either. What
> > else can be wrong? And is it easily fixable?
>
> Did anyone answer this? I don't remember seeing it.
>
> First, does the formerly-front burner work in the back, i.e. does the
> problem go with the burner or the location?

Location.

> Either a fuse has gone in the stove, or a wire or connection has
> gone. The latter may have provoked the former. The fuses are probably
> under a flip-up lid along the top, back edge of the unit, but there
> are other places they could be. (I'm assuming this is not a builtin
> unit, but rather the typical sort of freestanding thing that usually
> sits between two stretches of countertop.)

Yes.

> If a fuse is visibly burned out, then replace it. but be prepared for
> the new one to go too. If the inside of the fuse is charred or
> splattered looking, then it was a quick burnout probably caused by a
> short. If it is just melted through without splatters, then it was a
> slow overload. Regardless, there's always a cause.

Thanks for this, that helps a lot. Can I buy a new fuse at Home Depot?

> If there's no
> blown fuse (or if the new one blows right away), then you need to
> check wiring to the burners. More about that if needed.

Is this easy to fix, or will I have to pay someone?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:05:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08754
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 12:05:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00136EF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:13:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13361404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 18:13:48 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HMDlC26479 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:13:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws59-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.59]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HMDjq04567
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:13:46 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020717195500.UKPG29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>
            <20020717220244.B26657@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35EC16.FFE57DB5@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:13:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> Frankfurt, and after that no problem.  But they were just, well,
> very German.  We also, will never fly them again.

Fwiw, my only Lufthansa flight, after having heard many people singing
their praises, was nothing to make me rush back to them.  I don't
remember anything really negative, just nothing especially good.  I do
remember that I said to the person next to me that I finally understood
the name "airbus" -- that it left from an airport but that we were
really going to roll along the ground bus-like all the way from
Frankfurt to Rome.  But that wasn't related to the specific airline.
It's just that that airbus taxied forever and a day before finally
lurching upward into the air.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:42:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08909
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 12:42:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9389@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:45:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13363181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 18:51:14 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HMpEC31475 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:51:14 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws190-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.190]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HMpAq15796
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:51:11 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F1102NXHwGrRDyjLQoO00017eb1@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35F4D8.E2C097A4@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:51:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Anne Toal wrote:

> These guys are taking over everywhere. The old-style lawn man who worked on
> everything in your yard is a dying breed. The last time we had one, my
> mother was alive, and the man was older than she was. He was wonderful,

Jesus is still cutting a couple of yards in my old neighborhood -- the
couple of yards not owned by the person who owns most of the
neighborhood.  (The person who owns most of the neighborhood has his own
crew.  They cut the grass at my old house, for which I pay way too much
-- deducted from the rent I get.)  Anyway, Jesus is older than Jesus.
The yards in that neighborhood are very small, which is good since I
don't think he could do a big yard.  One of my former neighbors told me
that he keeps hiring Jesus but worries that he's going to die in his
tiny yard.  He has had heart problems.  (I think I mentioned Jesus
before.  He's the one a neighbor sent down to gather the limbs in my
yard when I was in Memphis at a wedding during the horrible storm we had
here a couple of years ago.  I know the neighbor paid Jesus, but he
would never let me repay.  I did give Jesus all the firewood he'd
chopped and stacked in my carport from my downed pecan limbs.)

Anyway, there are no Jesuses in this neighborhood.  Only the lawn
services, who charge absurd amounts for their quick jobs.  I don't know
exactly what Jesus charges, but I'm guessing it would translate into
about $30 an hour.  The lawn services charge well over $100 an hour.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:43:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08919
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 12:43:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC939A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:46:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13363228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 18:52:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HMq9C31595 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:52:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws190-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.190]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HMq6q16067
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:52:07 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000801c22dd0$27d78b40$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35F513.C0EA1563@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:52:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Doctor visit report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:

> Don't take too much iron. Or you will need a strong laxative.

I thought that women <of a certain age> were supposed to eschew iron for
lots of reasons.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:44:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08925
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 12:44:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC93A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:47:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13363266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 18:53:31 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HMrVC31701 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:53:31 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws190-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.190]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HMrPq16422
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:53:26 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D359AE6.21984.44B0E@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35F562.EAF67AA7@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:53:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> and they spray nasty chemicals all over everything.  When I was
> delivering papers I used to get sick to my stomach after trudging
> across all of the freshly sprayed lawns.

Huh?  I don't think you're talking about lawn services -- as in grass
cutters.  I think you're talking about insect people.  That's a whole
nother thing.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:49:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08940
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 12:49:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC93EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:52:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13363528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 18:57:42 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HMvgC32343 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:57:42 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws190-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.190]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HMvdq17738
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:57:39 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207171025410.15098-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <3D35CE44.91D0FFA5@maynor.net> <3D35DA9F.752C1530@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35F660.5738F192@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:57:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> No, I am sure he doesn't. But why don't you ask the man who takes care
> of everything in your old neighborhood to find someone to do your grass
> cutting. You often said that he can provide every sort of service.

He has a yard crew and thus doesn't know anything about other such
crews.  And his yard crew works in that area only.  There's no way they
would come over here.  The golf carts they use might even be stopped by
the police if they started heading all over town.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:50:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08945
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 12:50:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC93F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:53:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13363583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 18:59:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HMx9C32559 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:59:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws190-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.190]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HMwuq18146
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:58:58 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D34B603.F1228096@maynor.net> <3D358DDF.6846FF1E@valstar.net>
            <3D35CEE0.4EEF4504@maynor.net> <3D35DB20.850BD717@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35F6AD.FACDEF0C@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:58:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Today is Indeed the Day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> not know what day I sent it. Today, btw, is the 45th birthday of Doug
> and Jeff, making me feel ancient, but happy for having them.

Congratulations for bringing them into the world!  And for everything
else, of course, but it's the bringing-them-into-the-world anniversary
that we're celebrating right now.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:53:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08951
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 12:53:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9447@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:56:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13363808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 19:02:18 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HN2IC00446 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:02:18 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id QAA82494 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          16:02:17 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207171601450.77031-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:02:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35EA60.5299ED40@maynor.net>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Sharon Ziperovich wrote:
> >
> > I have used "fair-weather friend" recently to describe a friend of my
> > son, who I believe isn't a friend at all.  If it's no longer in use, can
> > you give me a more modern equivalent?
>
> Huh?  I wasn't paying much attention to that exchange about fair-weather
> friends and didn't realize that it was that term that was said to be
> dated.  I use it frequently.  It has never occurred to me to think that
> it was archaic in any way.
>
Apparently, I completely misread something. Disregard.

  Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:57:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08970
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 12:57:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9458@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:00:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13363867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 19:06:07 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HN67C00669 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:06:07 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws190-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.190]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HN62q20506
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:06:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <001001c22dd5$7815e520$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35F857.6731B0F7@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:05:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:

> Close, but no cigar, CMV.  Cytomegalovirus.

So is it something that is in my blood or that isn't in my blood?  I
think it's the latter, although one of the blood suckers was telling me
last time I was there that it was this great thing that I had in my
blood that gobbled up all illnesses.  He said, "I bet you don't get sick
very often and if you do get something like a cold it's gone within a
day."  I said, "Yes, that is indeed true."  He said, "That's because
you've got this great virus in your blood that gobbles up all bad
things."  I was skeptical.  One of the people who have called me to
solicit my blood told me that my blood does *not* have a certain virus
that most adults have in their blood.  And I couldn't help but notice
that the computer screen in the blood-sucking van said about me
"CMV-negative."  That sounds to me like absence rather than presence.  I
think this last blood-sucker was not very well informed.  But then
blood-suckers don't have to know that kind of stuff.  All they have to
do is ask the questions and suck the blood.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:06:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08995
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 13:06:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC94A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:09:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13364114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 19:15:18 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HNFHC01458 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:15:17 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6HNFGcf011193 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:15:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020717161440.00a2f8b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:15:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      ftr
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

B-  here but they wouldn't let me donate last time either.  First time that
has happened to me.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:10:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09003
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 13:10:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC94D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:13:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13364266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 19:18:53 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HNIrC01788 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:18:53 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-160.panax.com
          [63.163.42.160]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6HNIpj21760 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          19:18:52 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717191635.00a0fa80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:18:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: ftr
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020717161440.00a2f8b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

>B-  here but they wouldn't let me donate last time either.  First time that
>has happened to me.      --Betty

I'm going next Tuesday.  We shall see.  O+.  I got a letter from the Red
Cross recently asking for my blood because it has something special.  I
think it was associated with the chicken pox virus.  But I would think lots
of people would have immunity to that in their blood.   Hmmm.  Maybe that's
not right because you never really have immunity, right?  It hides some
place and can come back as shingles.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:11:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09011
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 13:11:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC94D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:14:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13364292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 19:20:11 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HNKAC01913 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:20:10 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020717232004.DVAN29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:20:04 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <001001c22dd5$7815e520$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717161032.0246ce70@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:16:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35F857.6731B0F7@maynor.net>

Natalie Maynor writes,

>So is it something that is in my blood or that isn't in my blood?

Isn't.  CMV resides in white blood cells, and 50-85% of adults in the US
have been infected by age 40.  After infection, it usually remains alive
but dormant.  The infection is usually not a problem except for
fetuses/newborns and the immuno-compromised.

I dunno what the "great virus in your blood that gobbles up all bad things"
guy was talking about.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:20:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09023
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 13:20:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9520@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:23:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13364502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 19:29:32 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HNTWC02572 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:29:32 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws180-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.180]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HNTTq27873
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:29:30 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020717191635.00a0fa80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35FDD6.CAE87607@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:29:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: ftr
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> I'm going next Tuesday.  We shall see.  O+.  I got a letter from the Red

Be prepared for still new questions.  I think I might have mentioned
that recently.  The travel thing keeps changing.  Now it's something
like "name all the places you've been outside the country [including
Canada as part of the country, of course :-)] since [some year ages ago
-- can't remember the year] and how long you were there."  Something
like that.  I laughed and said that that was impossible, so he said he'd
use the questions that were the ones still in use the day before (this
was late May or early June -- I'm assuming that you haven't given since
then since usually there's a two-month-waiting requirement).  My blood
doesn't go to Red Cross, but I assume they use pretty much the same
questions.  I give to United Blood Services since that's who happens to
come here to take blood, and I'm happy that they do since I am not a fan
of Red Cross, as I think we've discussed before.

> Cross recently asking for my blood because it has something special.  I
> think it was associated with the chicken pox virus.  But I would think lots
> of people would have immunity to that in their blood.   Hmmm.  Maybe that's
> not right because you never really have immunity, right?  It hides some
> place and can come back as shingles.

I don't know for sure, but I do know that I had chicken pox in third
grade (the worst illness I've ever had) and that I had shingles in
middle age.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:28:45 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09036
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 13:28:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001376F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:37:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13364774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 19:37:25 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HNbPC03337 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:37:25 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws180-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.180]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6HNbKq29850
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:37:21 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <001001c22dd5$7815e520$48305b80@EAGLE72>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717161032.0246ce70@mail.istori.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D35FFAE.98BF805F@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:37:18 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Kaminski wrote:

> >So is it something that is in my blood or that isn't in my blood?
>
> Isn't.  CMV resides in white blood cells, and 50-85% of adults in the US
> have been infected by age 40.  After infection, it usually remains alive
> but dormant.  The infection is usually not a problem except for
> fetuses/newborns and the immuno-compromised.
>
> I dunno what the "great virus in your blood that gobbles up all bad things"
> guy was talking about.

Thanks.  That was what I was confident was the case.  The "great virus
in your blood that gobbles up all bad things" guy was, as I suspected at
the time, a good blood-sucker (I complimented him on his good
blood-sucking) but not really much of an expert on blood matters beyond
asking and sucking.  What he thought he was talking about was indeed
CMV.  That was clear.  It's just that he didn't really know what it
was.  I'm trying to remember now what he said about blood cells.  It was
something like I had millions more red blood cells that attacked the bad
white blood cells, thus making me super healthy.  Some such thing.  (As
is surely obvious, I know zilch about medical matters.)  What he said to
me at the beginning of this discussion was dead-on true, though -- about
how I don't usually get sick and, if I get something that's going
around, it's gone within hours compared to the days or weeks other
people seem to have it.  That's what made me perk up and listen to him
since it's something I've always wondered about.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:32:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09048
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 13:32:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC958A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:35:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13364873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 19:41:22 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HNfMC03637 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:41:22 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-4.panax.com [65.114.190.4])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6HNfKj26113 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:41:21 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717192820.00b68728@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:38:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      first fruits and all that...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Here in downeast Maine, we have fresh native strawberries now, which are
excellent.  The blueberries may be a bit delayed owing to the long, cool
spring.  The bushes seem to be loaded, but most berries are still
green.  On the happier side, it is fresh garlic time.  The first garlic
pulled from the fields is now available at local farm/produce stands.  The
bulb is still rather greenish; one must peel several layers to get to the
cloves.  Ah, but then.  The cloves yield a fresh, mellow (defintely
garlicky) odor and flavor with no sharpness and relatively about twice the
juice that "mature" cloves yield.  Great in pastas, salads, smeared on
meats/veggies before grilling, etc.

It's now in the low 60s here, with thunderstorms predicted for later.  The
clouds are moving in rapidly.  Tomorrow night, it's supposed to dip into
the upper 40s---not terribly good news for those camping out in the park
campgrounds.

Espen---I finally found the old set of slides of Acadian mushrooms.  They
are being turned into prints now and I'll probably scan them in in a day or so.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:43:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09056
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 13:43:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0013783B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:52:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13365208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 19:52:26 -0400
Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6HNqPC04761 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          19:52:25 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0328.dialsprint.net ([63.190.1.74]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17Uyaj-0008VE-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed,
          17 Jul 2002 19:52:21 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000801c22dd0$27d78b40$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D36033F.C72DB32F@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:52:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: Doctor visit report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:
>
>to Alyce
> > Advised to take iron and vitamin C
> >
> Don't take too much iron. Or you will need a strong laxative.

TRUE!!!!  Particularly if you take ferrous sulfate....  ask your
pharmacist about a gentler iron.. Ferrous Gluconate

For more information on iron supplements see:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/ironsupplementssy stemic202305.html

Sylvia Edwards
Litopia    http://www.edwardsly.com
Sylvie's Place    http://www.geocities.com/s.words/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 14:11:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09084
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 14:11:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00137B37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:19:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13366602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 20:19:43 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I0JgC08768 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:19:42 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020718001937.JIQT26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:19:37 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEJIGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:22:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020716100016.00bf3b80@victoria.nb.no>

> >It's probably already been asked, but what's the difference in anchovy
> >types?
>
> Different kind of fish, different saltiness.
>
> Espen

Dragging out this thread even further, I'll ask you if you know which type
is most common here in the US and thus which would I know?

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com
who could go for some anchovy-laden pizza

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 14:24:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09100
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 14:24:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00137C73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:33:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13367245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 20:33:37 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I0XbC10392 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:33:37 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020718003331.JZIN26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:33:31 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEJIGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:36:12 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020716135205.OZPD8262.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>

> Speaking of shopping...
>
> Adam have you bought your suit for that black tie
> optional wedding you're going to?
>
> lisa

Not yet. I did hear on the radio today that Yale Genton (the fancy clothes
store) is having a pre-inventory sale, so I should check them out soon. I
have no idea if they carry my size or not, but it won't hurt to ask.

I will certainly report to the list when I've made my purchase. Thanks for
your interest!

--Adam

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 14:26:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09107
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 14:26:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9822@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:29:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13367341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 20:35:34 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I0ZXC10658 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:35:34 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.5]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZF5LC00.V4S for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:34:24 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <001001c22dd5$7815e520$48305b80@EAGLE72>
            <3D35F857.6731B0F7@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D360D35.E4643CB5@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:35:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> blood-suckers don't have to know that kind of stuff.  All they have to
> do is ask the questions and suck the blood.

    Odd, but I was under the impression that licensed hemotologists had to
know quite a bit.  But then I'm frequently wrong, just as recently as this
afternoon.

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 14:31:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09124
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 14:31:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00137D1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:39:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13367623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 20:39:53 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I0drC11305 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:39:53 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6I0dqcf023692 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:39:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020716100016.00bf3b80@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020717173934.00aae820@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:39:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEJIGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

At 08:22 PM 7/17/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > >It's probably already been asked, but what's the difference in anchovy
> > >types?
> >
> > Different kind of fish, different saltiness.
> >
> > Espen
>
>Dragging out this thread even further, I'll ask you if you know which type
>is most common here in the US and thus which would I know?
>
>--Adam
>adamh1@attbi.com
>who could go for some anchovy-laden pizza

I'm glad that wasn't on the SnowBash menu.  Gag!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 14:32:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09128
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 14:32:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9865@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:35:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13367660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 20:40:50 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I0enC11424 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:40:49 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6I0emcf006558 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:40:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <001001c22dd5$7815e520$48305b80@EAGLE72>
            <3D35F857.6731B0F7@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020717174038.00abb980@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:40:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D360D35.E4643CB5@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>

At 05:35 PM 7/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> > blood-suckers don't have to know that kind of stuff.  All they have to
> > do is ask the questions and suck the blood.
>
>     Odd, but I was under the impression that licensed hemotologists had to
>know quite a bit.  But then I'm frequently wrong, just as recently as this
>afternoon.

How many times have you been wrong this year?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 14:35:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09132
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 14:35:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00137D87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:44:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13367782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 20:44:33 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I0iXC11841 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:44:33 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020718004428.LFJA24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:44:28 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEJJGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:47:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: I need a show of hands ... quick
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEAKFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

> I'm still amusesd by mock goat meat. How is it different from mock lamb or
> mock rabbit. Did it taste like mock chicken?
>
> Sandra

Beats me, I've never had mock-anything else. Heck, I'd probably like real
goat meat.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com
catching up yet again *sigh*

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 14:56:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09225
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 14:56:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9942@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:59:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13368546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:04:44 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I14hC14557 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:04:43 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.5]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZF6XY00.G5M for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:03:34 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <001001c22dd5$7815e520$48305b80@EAGLE72>
            <3D35F857.6731B0F7@maynor.net>
            <4.2.2.20020717174038.00abb980@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D361414.3713B5A9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:04:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> How many times have you been wrong this year?

    I can't think that high.  Isn't today bad enough?

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:05:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09247
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:05:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC999E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:08:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13368874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:14:07 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1E7C15493 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:14:07 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6I1E6cf025834 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:14:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <001001c22dd5$7815e520$48305b80@EAGLE72>
            <3D35F857.6731B0F7@maynor.net>
            <4.2.2.20020717174038.00abb980@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020717181346.00a34970@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:14:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D361414.3713B5A9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>

At 06:04 PM 7/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
> > How many times have you been wrong this year?
>
>     I can't think that high.  Isn't today bad enough?

I think I only made one mistake this year.  There is still lots of time though.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:11:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09259
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:11:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC99CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:14:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13369062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:20:14 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1KDC16055 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:20:13 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws145-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.145]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6I1K7q25025
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:20:09 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <001001c22dd5$7815e520$48305b80@EAGLE72>
            <3D35F857.6731B0F7@maynor.net>
            <3D360D35.E4643CB5@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3617C4.B17C0CF3@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:20:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

John Williams wrote:
> > blood-suckers don't have to know that kind of stuff.  All they have to
> > do is ask the questions and suck the blood.
>
>     Odd, but I was under the impression that licensed hemotologists had to
> know quite a bit.  But then I'm frequently wrong, just as recently as this
> afternoon.

Are blood-suckers licensed hemotologists?  I don't know.  I do know that
the one who was talking about disease-sucking viruses in blood seemed to
know even less than I do about such matters -- and I can assure you that
I know very little.  His young side-kick (somebody I'd never seen
before) was even worse.  When I mentioned that I thought CMV-negative
suggested "without" something, he said that it wasn't related to my
having negative blood.  I nodded and said yes, that I wasn't talking
about Rh factor.  He looked blank, as if he'd never heard of Rh before.
I didn't pursue the subject, didn't ask him about rhesus monkeys or
anything.  I just smiled and nodded.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:14:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09266
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:14:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC99E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:17:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13369183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:23:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1MxC16342 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:22:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2914881BF; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 18:22:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718012259.2914881BF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:22:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D360D35.E4643CB5@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at
              "Jul 17, 2002  5:35: 2 pm"

John Williams said:
> Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > blood-suckers don't have to know that kind of stuff.  All they have to
> > do is ask the questions and suck the blood.
>
>     Odd, but I was under the impression that licensed hemotologists had to
> know quite a bit.  But then I'm frequently wrong, just as recently as this
> afternoon.

Aren't they phlebotomists? Those have very little training.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:15:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09278
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:15:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC99FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:18:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13369241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:24:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1O2C16463 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:24:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 76F6B7EEC; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 18:24:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718012401.76F6B7EEC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:24:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020717181346.00a34970@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 17, 2002  6:14:12 pm"

Betty said:
> I think I only made one mistake this year.

HA!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:17:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09282
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:17:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9A14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:20:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13369349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:26:16 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1QFC16819 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:26:15 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-4.panax.com [65.114.190.4])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1QDj15815 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:26:13 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020716100016.00bf3b80@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717211610.00b7f0d0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:26:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEJIGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

At 08:22 PM 7/17/2002 -0400, adam wrote:

>Dragging out this thread even further, I'll ask you if you know which type
>is most common here in the US and thus which would I know?

The group "anchovies" comprises 5 genera and at least 21 species, most of
which occur in the Indo-Pacific Ocean region.  The Argentine, European, and
Peruvian anchovies are probably the best bets for what you find
here.  Whether the differences mentioned in this thread are due to
different species or to different methods of preservation, I don't know.  I
have usually been able to avoid anchovies and hope to continue thusly.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:18:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09289
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:18:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9A17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:21:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13369355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:26:42 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1QgC16854 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:26:42 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6I1Qfcf018010 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:26:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <001001c22dd5$7815e520$48305b80@EAGLE72>
            <3D35F857.6731B0F7@maynor.net>
            <3D360D35.E4643CB5@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020717182526.00a6af00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:26:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3617C4.B17C0CF3@maynor.net>

At 08:20 PM 7/17/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>John Williams wrote:
> > > blood-suckers don't have to know that kind of stuff.  All they have to
> > > do is ask the questions and suck the blood.
> >
> >     Odd, but I was under the impression that licensed hemotologists had to
> > know quite a bit.  But then I'm frequently wrong, just as recently as this
> > afternoon.
>
>Are blood-suckers licensed hemotologists?  I don't know.  I do know that
>the one who was talking about disease-sucking viruses in blood seemed to
>know even less than I do about such matters -- and I can assure you that
>I know very little.  His young side-kick (somebody I'd never seen
>before) was even worse.  When I mentioned that I thought CMV-negative
>suggested "without" something, he said that it wasn't related to my
>having negative blood.  I nodded and said yes, that I wasn't talking
>about Rh factor.  He looked blank, as if he'd never heard of Rh before.
>I didn't pursue the subject, didn't ask him about rhesus monkeys or
>anything.  I just smiled and nodded.

Hematologist.  The blood suckers are usually only phlebotomists or
nurses.  They just suck the blood

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:19:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09293
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:19:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013817B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:27:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13369400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:27:59 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1RxC17027 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:27:59 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6I1Rwcf013771 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:27:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D360D35.E4643CB5@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020717182716.00ab0650@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:28:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718012259.2914881BF@yellow.rahul.net>

At 06:22 PM 7/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>John Williams said:
> > Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > > blood-suckers don't have to know that kind of stuff.  All they have to
> > > do is ask the questions and suck the blood.
> >
> >     Odd, but I was under the impression that licensed hemotologists had to
> > know quite a bit.  But then I'm frequently wrong, just as recently as this
> > afternoon.
>
>Aren't they phlebotomists? Those have very little training.

But a good phlebotomist is better than most doctors at finding that
vein.  Give me a phlebotomist any day.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:25:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09298
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:25:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9A4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:28:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13369566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:33:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1XgC17746 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:33:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A1CC27D73; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 18:33:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718013341.A1CC27D73@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:33:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020717182716.00ab0650@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 17, 2002  6:28: 5 pm"

Betty said:
> At 06:22 PM 7/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >John Williams said:
> > > Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > > > blood-suckers don't have to know that kind of stuff.  All they have to
> > > > do is ask the questions and suck the blood.
> > >
> > >     Odd, but I was under the impression that licensed hemotologists had to
> > > know quite a bit.  But then I'm frequently wrong, just as recently as this
> > > afternoon.
> >
> >Aren't they phlebotomists? Those have very little training.
>
> But a good phlebotomist is better than most doctors at finding that
> vein.  Give me a phlebotomist any day.

Okay. You can have my share. You probably don't remember the one in
Palo Alto who was reusing needles a couple years ago.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:27:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09305
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:27:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9A65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:30:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13369652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:35:48 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1ZmC18000 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:35:48 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020718013542.MYRQ26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 01:35:42 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEJMGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:38:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: For Karen
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F228I643e49q6WJ4EuP0001469f@hotmail.com>

> Wait! I just tasted my lunch companion's seaweed salad, and LOVED
> IT! Slimy
> and crunchy, with bits of cucumber and sprinkled with sesame seeds -- and
> maybe a dash of sesame oil. Yes.
>
> Marie
>    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com

Finally, a message from today that isn't a dead bird for reply purposes.

Anyway, I like seaweed salad too. I even had it last Tuesday when we had
family sushi night.

My favorite appetizer at the Japanese/Chinese restaurant where I get
decadently delicious sushi is the scallion pancake. Yum.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:28:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09340
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:28:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9A74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:31:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13369696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:36:52 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1aqC18102 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:36:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B3C65813D; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 18:36:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718013651.B3C65813D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:36:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: For Karen
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEJMGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 17, 2002  9:38:22 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> My favorite appetizer at the Japanese/Chinese restaurant where I get
> decadently delicious sushi is the scallion pancake. Yum.

That's Chinese, I think.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:29:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09344
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:29:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00138251@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:37:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13369727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:37:44 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1biC18217 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:37:44 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6I1bhcf032539 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:37:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020717182716.00ab0650@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020717183704.00ab56b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:37:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718013341.A1CC27D73@yellow.rahul.net>

At 06:33 PM 7/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > At 06:22 PM 7/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >John Williams said:
> > > > Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > > > > blood-suckers don't have to know that kind of stuff.  All they
> have to
> > > > > do is ask the questions and suck the blood.
> > > >
> > > >     Odd, but I was under the impression that licensed hemotologists
> had to
> > > > know quite a bit.  But then I'm frequently wrong, just as recently
> as this
> > > > afternoon.
> > >
> > >Aren't they phlebotomists? Those have very little training.
> >
> > But a good phlebotomist is better than most doctors at finding that
> > vein.  Give me a phlebotomist any day.
>
>Okay. You can have my share. You probably don't remember the one in
>Palo Alto who was reusing needles a couple years ago.

Of course I do.  Laws are being changed because of her.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:30:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09357
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:30:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9A8D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:33:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13369778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:38:58 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1cwC18357 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:38:58 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws145-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.145]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6I1cuq29430
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:38:56 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D360D35.E4643CB5@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020717182716.00ab0650@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D361C2D.50B4BD4B@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:38:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Blood type
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> >Aren't they phlebotomists? Those have very little training.
>
> But a good phlebotomist is better than most doctors at finding that
> vein.  Give me a phlebotomist any day.

I'm all for the blood-suckers being good at sucking blood.  Our
conversations were just idle chitchat.  I had caught on a long time ago
that they really weren't totally on top of all medical knowledge.  Like
in answer to the cancer question I've sometimes said "only basal-cell
carcinoma," and they've had to consult books to find out what that is.
That isn't exactly something you have to have had medical training to
have heard of.  (I must admit that sometimes I've forgotten to say it at
all in answer to the cancer question.  I've just said no.  And that
makes me wonder how helpful the question-answering really is.  I mean I
don't think it matters that I've forgotten to add "only basal-cell
carcinoma" since it's obviously not a threat to anybody's blood, but
what if people forget things that really might matter?)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:36:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09368
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:36:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9AE3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:39:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13370074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:45:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1jYC19218 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:45:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4201C820B; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 18:45:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718014533.4201C820B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:45:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Seaweed salad?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

So I'm looking at seaweed salad recipes, and I realize that some
recipes include wakame instead of hijiki. It's hijiki that I always
think of for seaweed salad. For those of you who liked what you ate,
was it hijiki or wakame?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:43:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09387
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:43:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00138358@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:51:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13370196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:51:52 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1pqC19806 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:51:52 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020718015145.NSLR26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 01:51:45 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEJNGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:54:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020717173934.00aae820@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> >who could go for some anchovy-laden pizza
>
> I'm glad that wasn't on the SnowBash menu.  Gag!
>
> Betty

The anchovies would make The Dish way too salty, what with the gobs and gobs
of parmesan and pecorino romano I put in. I think I put way more cheese in
than Judith does.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:46:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09399
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:46:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9B2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:49:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13370300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:55:14 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1tDC20125 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:55:13 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020718015508.OQOH24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 01:55:08 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEJOGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:57:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717211610.00b7f0d0@mail.panax.com>

> have usually been able to avoid anchovies and hope to continue thusly.
>
> cwv

But...but...Clyde, how can you be this giant gourmand and not like
anchovies????

I'm stunned.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:48:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09403
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:48:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9B31@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:50:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13370317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:56:37 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1ubC20227 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:56:37 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020718015631.OSDS24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 01:56:31 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEJOGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:59:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: For Karen
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718013651.B3C65813D@yellow.rahul.net>

> That's Chinese, I think.
>
> Karen

Yes, I believe so. That doesn't make them any less delicious, it just makes
them moot for your purpose.

What was that Natalie was saying about eels? I love unagi sushi. Do they
serve it raw? I think I've always had it broiled.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:49:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09407
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:49:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9B3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:52:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13370375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 21:58:04 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I1w3C20429 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:58:03 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020718015758.NZOS26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 01:57:58 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEJPGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:00:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Seaweed salad?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718014533.4201C820B@yellow.rahul.net>

> think of for seaweed salad. For those of you who liked what you ate,
> was it hijiki or wakame?
>
> Karen

Uh, it was green and served on a bed of iceberg lettuce. That's all I know.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:52:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09411
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:52:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9B62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:55:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13370497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 22:01:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I218C20757 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:01:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7764B7F34; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 19:01:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718020107.7764B7F34@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:01:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: For Karen
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEJOGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 17, 2002  9:59:11 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> What was that Natalie was saying about eels? I love unagi sushi. Do they
> serve it raw? I think I've always had it broiled.

Me, too. No one would eat raw eel. I can buy eel frozen here, and I
have a good sauce for it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:52:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09418
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:52:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9B64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:55:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13370503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 22:01:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I21RC20784 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:01:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 807CA7D73; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 19:01:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718020126.807CA7D73@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:01:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Seaweed salad?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEJPGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 17, 2002 10: 0:38 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> Uh, it was green and served on a bed of iceberg lettuce. That's all I know.

Blick!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:53:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09423
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:53:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9B71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:56:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13370541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 22:02:20 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I22JC20890 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:02:19 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-4.panax.com [65.114.190.4])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I22Hj23475 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:02:18 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020717211610.00b7f0d0@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717215947.00b95c20@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:02:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEJOGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

At 09:57 PM 7/17/2002 -0400, adam wrote:

>But...but...Clyde, how can you be this giant gourmand and not like
>anchovies????

Well, I'm not really that large, nor do I eat that much.  There are a few
things that I simply do not appreciate in any form; among these are
anchovies and liver.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:59:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09432
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 15:59:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001384AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:07:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13370790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 22:07:41 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I27fC21411 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:07:41 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020718020733.PGRF24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 02:07:33 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGMEKAGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:10:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Seaweed salad?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718020126.807CA7D73@yellow.rahul.net>

> > Uh, it was green and served on a bed of iceberg lettuce. That's
> all I know.
>
> Blick!

Why blick?

I don't know the names of half the food I eat at Li Brothers. I haven't
known what a single thing is that people have given the Japanese names for.
Wait, I do know daikon, but that's only because I've seen Natalie chopping
it and have eaten it, too.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com
all caught up!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:01:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09445
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 16:01:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9C26@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:04:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13370957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 22:10:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I2AQC21848 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:10:26 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 714C680CC; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 19:09:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718020914.714C680CC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:09:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Seaweed salad?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGMEKAGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 17, 2002 10:10:13 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> Why blick?

Iceberg lettuce in any way, shape, or form.

> Wait, I do know daikon, but that's only because I've seen Natalie chopping
> it and have eaten it, too.

Is it your favorite Japanese vegetable?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:04:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09453
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 16:04:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9C46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:07:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13371044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 22:12:35 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I2CYC22114 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:12:34 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020718021229.PMSU24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 02:12:29 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEKBGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:15:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D357C96.245FF735@maynor.net>

> ?  If I've ever been depressed in my life, I haven't known it.  How does
> one know?  (I don't mean feeling temporarily disappointed or unhappy
> with some situation.  I can't imagine a life that had nary an occasion
> for such short-lived feelings.)
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Nobody seems to have answered this. Haven't we gone over this before?

Anyway, signs of depression include:

crying for no reason
sleep problems
inability to make simple decisions such as what to wear or where to eat
lack of interest in things you formerly found interesting

There are more, of course; I just don't remember them off the top of my
head.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:05:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09457
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 16:05:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9C54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:08:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13371096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 22:14:03 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I2E3C22244 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:14:03 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020718021357.OUIM26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 02:13:57 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717190502.0263ac80@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:10:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Seaweed salad?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718014533.4201C820B@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen Kay writes,

>For those of you who liked what you ate, was it hijiki or wakame?

I like wakame, but don't like hijiki.  But hijiki probably makes better for
a better seaweed salad; wakame salad would be too much like miso soup
without the broth and tofu.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:05:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09461
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 16:05:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00138536@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:14:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13371124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 22:14:10 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I2E9C22303 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:14:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws27-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.27]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6I2DRq10446
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:13:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEJOGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D362444.F9A3758E@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:13:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:

> But...but...Clyde, how can you be this giant gourmand and not like
> anchovies????

Although I've never broken bread with Clyde, my impression is that he's
not at all a gourmand.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:08:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09469
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 16:08:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00138574@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:16:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13371210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 22:16:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I2GgC22704 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:16:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DA7E7813D; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 19:16:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718021641.DA7E7813D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:16:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Seaweed salad?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717190502.0263ac80@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Jul 17, 2002  7:10:21 pm"

Peter Kaminski said:
> I like wakame, but don't like hijiki.  But hijiki probably makes better for
> a better seaweed salad; wakame salad would be too much like miso soup
> without the broth and tofu.

Yes--though one of the recipes I saw included wakame *and* tofu.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:10:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09477
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 16:10:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9C7F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:13:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13371278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 22:19:05 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I2J4C22980 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:19:04 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws27-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.27]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6I2J2q11664
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:19:02 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEJOGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D362593.D74A19ED@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:18:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: For Karen
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:
>
> > That's Chinese, I think.
> >
> > Karen
>
> Yes, I believe so. That doesn't make them any less delicious, it just makes
> them moot for your purpose.

Moot in the sense of <real> Japanese food, but Chinese food is very
popular in Japan -- at least in Tokyo of my era there.

> What was that Natalie was saying about eels? I love unagi sushi. Do they

Eel Day is the day in Japan when you're supposed to eat eel to ward off
the summer heat.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:14:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09484
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 16:14:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9C9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:17:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13371393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 22:23:23 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I2NNC23447 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:23:23 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws27-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.27]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6I2NKq12613
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:23:21 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEKBGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D362695.5411B4C3@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:23:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:

> Nobody seems to have answered this. Haven't we gone over this before?

I don't know whether we have, but I thank you for answering -- even
though I must admit that I had totally forgotten having asked.

> Anyway, signs of depression include:
>
> crying for no reason
> sleep problems
> inability to make simple decisions such as what to wear or where to eat
> lack of interest in things you formerly found interesting

Whew.  I think this lets me out of the depression fear.  Although that
last one is something to think about since my interests do change with
the passing of time, I don't have any of the other symptoms.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:16:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09496
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 16:16:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9CA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:19:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13371438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 22:25:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I2P2C23597 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:25:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws27-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.27]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6I2Owq12917
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:24:59 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3626F7.B005EA4@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:24:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      DSAI
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I'm about to go nomail.  Will be back late Saturday.  Hold it down.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:28:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09512
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 16:28:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EC9D0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:31:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13371858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 22:36:45 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I2ajC24811 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:36:45 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6I2aicf020733 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:36:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020717173934.00aae820@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020717193636.00ab3cd0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:36:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEJNGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

At 09:54 PM 7/17/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > >who could go for some anchovy-laden pizza
> >
> > I'm glad that wasn't on the SnowBash menu.  Gag!
> >
> > Betty
>
>The anchovies would make The Dish way too salty, what with the gobs and gobs
>of parmesan and pecorino romano I put in. I think I put way more cheese in
>than Judith does.

You did it *just* right.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:50:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09554
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 16:50:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001388FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:59:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13373323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 22:59:23 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6I2xMC27039 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          22:59:22 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6I2xM441488 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          22:59:22 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEGHFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:58:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Care Package Time
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Hey Alyce,

Give me your address and I'll put together a little high caloric care
package for you.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:53:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09559
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 16:53:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECA0CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:56:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13374623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 23:02:13 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I32DC27903 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:02:13 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6I32Bj00728 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:02:11 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207172157200.351-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:02:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: CD Q
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020716230645.021a6e30@mail.istori.com>

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Peter Kaminski wrote:

> BTW, another musician has written an essay arguing that "free Internet
> downloads are good for the music industry and its artists."  For an
> artist-oriented music industry, anyway :-).
>
> Janis Ian, <http://www.janisian.com/article-internet_debacle.html>.

Who are the musicians writing this way?  Are they all people who haven't
made an album in -a number of- years?   I would like to see somebody
famous and at the top [and still rising] of their career to join the
cause.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:06:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09579
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 17:06:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECA49D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:09:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13377313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 23:15:22 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I3FMC29907 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:15:22 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020718031516.RSUN26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 03:15:16 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020716230645.021a6e30@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717200801.023a1380@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:11:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: CD Q
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207172157200.351-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

Ann Borkin writes,

>Who are the musicians writing this way?  Are they all people who haven't
>made an album in -a number of- years?   I would like to see somebody
>famous and at the top [and still rising] of their career to join the
>cause.

There haven't been many.  I should think it would be hard to do if one had
a current recording contract -- your label would be able to lock up your
career and swallow the key.

Courtney Love published a great rant
<http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/> in 2000, just a few
months after her album "In Conversation" came out.  Dunno if she ranks as
famous or still rising for you, though.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:07:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09586
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 17:07:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECA4B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:10:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13377383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 23:16:29 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I3GTC30022 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:16:29 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6I3GP601203 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:16:25 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207172202490.739-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:16:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      my concerns of the day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

1.  So far I have seen 4 artists, on my gallery rounds, in the past 3
months, zinging off photography.  Two have used photos as the "canvas,"
then painted over to modify.  Two have drawn with charcoal or conte, over
photographs or maybe from photographs.  The first 2 worked in color, the
second two in black and white (duh).

OK I got side tracked because I liked all of these.  The side track is:  I
read the gallery statements of these (as I have done of others) and JESUS
CHRIST they are stupid.  I mean stupid and pretentious.  And in fact
whenever I read (in these gallery tours) the artist's statement, YI YI
PING HENG CHRIST JESUS they are really disgustingly pretentious.

I hate that.  I would be so happy to come across an artist whose work I
liked, and to read the Statement, and to like that!

2.  Our junior reference librarian is resigning to go to library school.
We have a book that people can write in, to say goodbye.  As I took it
around today (what a pain in the ass to wait while people sweat what to
write - when/if I retire I will request NOT)  I informed a secretary that
our darling W---- was going to library school, she said HOW CUTE !  Oh
that's so CUTE, she said.  THAT'S SO DARLING she said.  "He will go to
library skool and learn all those cute little library techniques!"  "And
then maybe he'll come back and do all those CUTE little new library
things!"

And actually this cute little secretary is pretty smart.

And pretty old too, maybe 50.

I don't know, really, I don't know.  Some part of me liked her take on
library skool.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:09:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09591
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 17:09:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECA4C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:12:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13377422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 23:17:49 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I3HmC30155 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:17:48 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6I3HlW01238 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:17:47 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207172216500.739-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:17:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: CD Q
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717200801.023a1380@mail.istori.com>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Peter Kaminski wrote:

> Courtney Love published a great rant
> <http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/> in 2000, just a few
> months after her album "In Conversation" came out.  Dunno if she ranks as
> famous or still rising for you, though.

Hey I read Rolling Stone now!  Or maybe it was Blender.  She sounded like
a nut case (they made her sound like a n.c.)

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:12:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09595
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 17:12:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECA4D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:15:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13377493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 23:21:08 -0400
Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I3L8C30461 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:21:08 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.126.13bff4ed (4315) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul
          2002 23:20:54 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <126.13bff4ed.2a678e16@aol.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:20:54 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/17/2002 9:13:22 PM Central Daylight Time,
adamh1@ATTBI.COM writes:

<<
Anyway, signs of depression include:

crying for no reason
sleep problems
inability to make simple decisions such as what to wear or where to eat
lack of interest in things you formerly found interesting


>>

What if you can't cry?  During the past three years, tears have come
to my eyes only twice and there has been no sobbing, bawling, etc.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:16:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09696
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 17:16:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECA501@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:19:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13377624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 23:25:32 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I3PWC30846 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:25:32 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6I3PVcf002971 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:25:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020717202501.00ab6ea0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:25:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Is this where you went when you were here last time?  Larry and I may visit.

http://www.filoli.org/

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:21:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09700
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 17:21:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECA537@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:24:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13377829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 23:29:49 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6I3TnC31246 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          23:29:49 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6I3Tm4274230 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul
          2002 23:29:48 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEGJFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:28:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020717202501.00ab6ea0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

I've been. It's just lovely.

Sandra
>
>
> Is this where you went when you were here last time?  Larry and I
> may visit.
>
> http://www.filoli.org/
>
> Betty
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:26:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09708
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 17:26:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECA55F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:29:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13377968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 23:34:50 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I3YnC31609 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:34:49 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020718033444.TJER24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 03:34:44 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020717200801.023a1380@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717202438.023a4b70@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:31:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: CD Q
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207172216500.739-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

Ann Borkin writes,

>Hey I read Rolling Stone now!  Or maybe it was Blender.  She sounded like
>a nut case (they made her sound like a n.c.)

She *is*, let's say, colorful.  And she's had an interesting life.  But I
don't think she's a nut case.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:40:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09728
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 17:40:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECA5C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:43:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13378246 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 23:48:57 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6I3muC32398 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:48:57 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA07882
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          20:48:54 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DEEC497007 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:48:52 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 7862 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2002 03:48:51 -0000
Received: from p43.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.90?) (66.237.73.90) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 18 Jul 2002 03:48:51 -0000
References: <20020717185344.E01647C1F@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D35846D.27400.1797EFC@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
            17, 2002  2:51:26 pm"
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130305b95be0106cdf@[66.237.73.53]>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:48:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35857E.19102.17DAB86@localhost>

>It's a little dated - but then so am I.

>BrP

Let me get this straight (so to speak): you've got a wonderful boyfriend in
Toronto, but you're still doing a little dating? ;-)

Ken Miller
Department of Ambiguity

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:43:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09735
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 17:43:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECA5C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:46:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13378269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 23:51:52 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I3pqC32569 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:51:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A022B81EC; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 20:51:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718035135.A022B81EC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:51:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <126.13bff4ed.2a678e16@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Jul 17,
              2002 11:20:54 pm"

Evelyn Duncan said:
> What if you can't cry?  During the past three years, tears have come
> to my eyes only twice and there has been no sobbing, bawling, etc.

I was thinking of the list non-cryers this morning when I was crying.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:45:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09752
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 17:45:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECA5CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:48:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13378286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17
          Jul 2002 23:53:56 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6I3ruC32695 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:53:56 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA08833
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          20:53:54 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D536E97005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:53:27 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 8731 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2002 03:53:26 -0000
Received: from p43.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.90?) (66.237.73.90) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 18 Jul 2002 03:53:26 -0000
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130309b95bea06c403@[66.237.73.53]>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:53:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020717202501.00ab6ea0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

>Is this where you went when you were here last time?  Larry and I may visit.
>
>http://www.filoli.org/
>
>Betty

There's a review by the Underbelly Guy (<http://www.sjunderbelly.com>):

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/11.22.01/underbelly-0147.html

It looks pretty cool.

Ken Miller
Carlson School of Observation

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 18:28:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA09855
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 18:28:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0013918B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 0:36:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13382121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 00:36:41 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6I4afC05536 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          00:36:41 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6I4ae4439178 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul
          2002 00:36:40 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEGLFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:35:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718035135.A022B81EC@yellow.rahul.net>

Count me in as a cryer. Not a bigtime cryer...but I can certainly be moved
to tears.

Sandra

> Evelyn Duncan said:
> > What if you can't cry?  During the past three years, tears have come
> > to my eyes only twice and there has been no sobbing, bawling, etc.
>
> I was thinking of the list non-cryers this morning when I was crying.
>
> Karen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 18:33:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA09869
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 18:33:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECAA6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 0:36:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13382217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 00:41:52 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6I4fpC05925 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          00:41:51 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6I4fp4206900 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul
          2002 00:41:51 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEGLFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:40:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      FW: You too can write for the Democrats!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Or the Republicans....take your pick...

Sandra

>
>
> http://home.europa.com/~bknotts/speechmaker.html

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 20:48:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10194
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 20:48:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECAF6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 2:50:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13387437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 02:56:36 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I6uaC20316 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 02:56:36 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id XAA42885 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002
          23:56:35 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207172355410.40597-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:56:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020717202501.00ab6ea0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

Oh!  That's right near me and I've never been.  Care to make it a bay area
wordslers event?

 Sharon

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

> Is this where you went when you were here last time?  Larry and I may visit.
>
> http://www.filoli.org/
>
> Betty
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 21:12:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10348
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 21:12:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECB008@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 3:15:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13388088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 03:20:45 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I7KiC22312 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 03:20:44 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTT6H>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:20:43 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTT6G; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:20:34 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020718091828.00bba310@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:20:28 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh Festival
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F249kzpaPE3vX7RrZ5d00011373@hotmail.com>

09:13 17.07.2002 -0500 skrev Anne Toal:
>http://www.go-edinburgh.co.uk/

Too bad that I won't be there until Sept. 8. (And the travelling there is
<interesting>: the cheapest tickets we could get were KLM via Amsterdam.
This reminds me: I will have quite a few hours at Schippol (sp?) on Sept.
8. Lunch anyone?

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 21:21:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10379
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 21:21:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECB032@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 3:24:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13388267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 03:29:45 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I7TiC23035 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 03:29:44 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTT6V>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:29:43 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTT64; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:29:35 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D359188.8EC08EE3@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <F214dMJ0s5qWC20c3CM00013e47@hotmail.com>
            <20020717160111.A25616@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D359188.8EC08EE3@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020718092910.00bfc838@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:29:30 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Lunch Box
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717185828.A26150@yoccoz.multinix.com>

18:58 17.07.2002 +0200 skrev steph:
>Thank you for noticing.  I will hear more on Friday.  The news so
>far is that he is impressed with my skills, but has a less
>expensive less skilled candidate who is also worth considering.
>For another job I have been put on the short list of candidates
>they are considering interviewing.  They were supposed to make a
>decision today about who they were going to interview, but that
>will also apparently happen on Friday.
>
>steph

Toes etc. crossed!

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 21:25:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10393
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 21:25:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECB04A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 3:28:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13388335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 03:34:23 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I7YMC23367 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 03:34:23 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6I7dbq27980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:39:37
          +0200
References: <F249kzpaPE3vX7RrZ5d00011373@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020718091828.00bba310@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020718093936.A27976@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:39:36 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Edinburgh Festival
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020718091828.00bba310@victoria.nb.no>; from
              Espen.Ore@NB.NO on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:20:28AM +0200

= This reminds me: I will have quite a few hours at Schippol (sp?) on Sept.
= 8. Lunch anyone?
=
= Espen

What, you expect me to plan in advance?  Ah, it's a Sunday.
Should be no problem.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 21:43:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10433
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 21:43:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECB0E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 3:45:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13388816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 03:51:36 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I7pZC24733 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 03:51:35 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTT8F>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:51:35 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTT81; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:51:25 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020718094739.02bc4d98@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:49:21 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: my new name
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35ABA6.A4F2448B@valstar.net>

13:38 17.07.2002 -0400 skrev alyce cresap:
>Received today a solicitation for a credit card. It was addressed to
>cresao alice ephemera, and began, "Dear Mr. Ephermera." If I accept this
>offer, could I charge up the card and then not pay because I am not Mr.
>Ephemera?

At my former place of work (Uni. of Bergen) we received mail beginning
"Dear Mr. Wittgenstein". And also "Dear Mr. Haarfagre" (from the street
name - Harald Haarfagre (Harold Fairhair) died sometime in the tenth century.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 21:44:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10440
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 21:44:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECB0F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 3:47:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13388851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 03:53:26 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I7rPC24851 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 03:53:25 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTT82>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:53:25 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTT8H; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:53:20 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <F101EnwkIROb0ILmN5q00017e16@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020718095218.00b47850@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:53:12 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35836D.29986.1759569@localhost>

14:47 17.07.2002 -0400 skrev Paul R. Barfoot:
>Ripe off the tree peaches
>local strawberries
>fresh figs
>BrP
>(no I'm not listing myself as a summer fruit)
>
>
> > Who agrees with me that summer fruit is the most beautiful fruit of the
> > year? Apricots, golden yellow with a sprinkling of red freckles on the top
> > by the stem. Yellow nectarines, with the yellowness of the flesh showing
> > through the red skin, making the whole thing golden red. And Ranier
> > cherries! Impossibly beautiful, yellow and red and pink all mixed together.
> > The flavor has nothing to do with what we call "cherry" as in soda pop or
> > candy. It is a wild lively expression of the psychedelic mixture of
> color on
> > the skin. You eat a handful of Ranier cherries and by gum, you know it's
> > summertime.
> >
> > -aht

Wild strawberries - and the blueberries and raspberries are coming along.
The cloudberries are ripe in the Oslo forest.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 21:51:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10478
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 21:51:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECB11E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 3:54:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13388995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 04:00:06 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I805C25383 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 04:00:05 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTT8T>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:00:05 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTT8R; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:59:52 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020718095729.02bbfdd8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:59:40 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020717195500.UKPG29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>

19:54 17.07.2002 +0000 skrev Lisa Alfieri:
>The trip back home went smoothly but they'd left such a
>bad taste in my mouth, despite the yummy chocolates they
>handed out on all their flights, I swore I'd never use
>them again.

Lufthansa serves wine from ordinary bottles and don't give out those small
airplane bottles. I prefer this, it seems more normal, and they refill your
glass as much as you wish. (I am of course talking about economy class.)

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 21:54:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10483
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 21:54:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECB128@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 3:57:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13388850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 04:02:55 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I7qtC24824 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 03:52:55 -0400
Received: from menudo.vt.com (root@menudo.vt.com [204.117.188.234]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I7qtp26340 for
          <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 03:52:55 -0400
Received: from [203.131.71.115] ([203.131.71.115]) by menudo.vt.com
          (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA08777 for <steph@words-l.org>; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 02:41:37 -0500 (CDT)
X-Authentication-Warning: menudo.vt.com: [203.131.71.115] didn't use HELO
                         protocol
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Sender: steph@words-l.org
Received: from words-l.org by W82TKI9T9.words-l.org with SMTP for
          steph@words-l.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 03:49:47 -0500
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Priority: 3
X-Encoding: MIME
Importance: Normal
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  Quoted-Printable
Message-ID:  <4R6XBPP.1BRB0Y.steph@words-l.org>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 03:49:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph@WORDS-L.ORG
Subject:      Adult Passwords Here
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I know you want to look at pussy, but first you need to learn The Truth about =
the adult industry:

Get Into Paysites Free!

If you take 2 minutes to read what I have to say you will have full access  =
to some of the largest membership sites for free.

http://www.americanteensluts.com/fpp/rune/rune3.html
This costs you nothing!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:10:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10522
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 22:10:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00139C83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 4:18:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13389437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 04:18:46 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I8IkC26809 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 04:18:46 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTT96>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:18:45 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTT95; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:18:35 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <4.2.2.20020717161440.00a2f8b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020718101659.02bbfff8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:18:29 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: ftr
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717191635.00a0fa80@pop3.norton.antivirus>

19:18 17.07.2002 -0400 skrev bonniev:
>>B-  here but they wouldn't let me donate last time either.  First time that
>>has happened to me.      --Betty
>
>I'm going next Tuesday.  We shall see.  O+.  I got a letter from the Red
>Cross recently asking for my blood because it has something special.  I

Thank you for reminding me! I knew that I would have an appointment soon -
it is every three months here - and I was afraid it might be for the week
when I am away on sesshin. So I checked and now I have an appointment on
July 30.

Espen A+

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:12:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10529
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 22:12:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECB1B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 4:15:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13389467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 04:20:56 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I8KtC26944 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 04:20:55 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTT0B>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:20:55 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTT0A; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:20:52 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020718102022.02bb2b20@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:20:46 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: first fruits and all that...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717192820.00b68728@mail.panax.com>

19:38 17.07.2002 -0400 skrev clyde w. voigtlander:
>Espen---I finally found the old set of slides of Acadian mushrooms.  They
>are being turned into prints now and I'll probably scan them in in a day
>or so.


!! Great!

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:14:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10537
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 22:13:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECB1BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 4:16:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13389474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 04:22:27 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I8MQC27028 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 04:22:27 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTT0M>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:22:26 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTT0J; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:22:16 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020716100016.00bf3b80@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020718102115.02bc12b8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:22:10 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEJIGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

20:22 17.07.2002 -0400 skrev Adam Hartfield:
> > >It's probably already been asked, but what's the difference in anchovy
> > >types?
> >
> > Different kind of fish, different saltiness.
> >
> > Espen
>
>Dragging out this thread even further, I'll ask you if you know which type
>is most common here in the US and thus which would I know?

The anchovies you get on pizza in the US is (always, I believe) the
Mediterranean kind.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:14:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10551
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 22:14:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECB1BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 4:17:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13389480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 04:23:06 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I8N5C27061 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 04:23:05 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTT0S>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:23:05 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTT0R; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:22:56 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020716100016.00bf3b80@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020718102217.02bc3388@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:22:52 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEJIGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

20:22 17.07.2002 -0400 skrev Adam Hartfield:
> > >It's probably already been asked, but what's the difference in anchovy
> > >types?
> >
> > Different kind of fish, different saltiness.
> >
> > Espen
>
>Dragging out this thread even further, I'll ask you if you know which type
>is most common here in the US and thus which would I know?

PS I guess that you would have to look for Swedish or Norwegian anchovies
to get the Scandinavian kind.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:18:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10754
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 22:18:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECB1D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 4:21:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13389524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 04:26:57 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I8QuC27224 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 04:26:56 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTTT06>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:26:56 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTTT05; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:26:43 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEJIGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020716100016.00bf3b80@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020718102539.02bb7dd0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:26:37 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020717211610.00b7f0d0@mail.panax.com>

21:26 17.07.2002 -0400 skrev clyde w. voigtlander:
>At 08:22 PM 7/17/2002 -0400, adam wrote:
>
>>Dragging out this thread even further, I'll ask you if you know which type
>>is most common here in the US and thus which would I know?
>
>The group "anchovies" comprises 5 genera and at least 21 species, most of
>which occur in the Indo-Pacific Ocean region.  The Argentine, European, and
>Peruvian anchovies are probably the best bets for what you find
>here.  Whether the differences mentioned in this thread are due to
>different species or to different methods of preservation, I don't know.  I
>have usually been able to avoid anchovies and hope to continue thusly.

The Scandinavian "anchovy" is not anchovy at all. It is sprat. (And so are
our sardines.)

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:20:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10758
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 11 Jun 1960 22:20:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECB1D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 4:23:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13389536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 04:29:17 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6I8TGC27382 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 04:29:16 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT4AC>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:29:16 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT4AB; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:29:07 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEJOGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020718102848.02bfdb28@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:29:02 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D362444.F9A3758E@maynor.net>

21:13 17.07.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor:
>Adam Hartfield wrote:
>
> > But...but...Clyde, how can you be this giant gourmand and not like
> > anchovies????
>
>Although I've never broken bread with Clyde, my impression is that he's
>not at all a gourmand.

But a gourmet I believe.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 02:03:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA11285
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 02:03:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013A6CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 8:11:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13394987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 08:11:44 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f62.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ICBiC28636 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:11:44 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          18 Jul 2002 05:11:38 -0700
Received: from 207.162.163.19 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 12:11:38 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [207.162.163.19]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2002 12:11:38.0714 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[44DB2BA0:01C22E54]
Message-ID:  <F62Aaaz7EjQxzmWecm900000218@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:11:38 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen:

>But a gourmet I believe.

Je crois que oui.

AS

_________________________________________________________________
Discutez en ligne avec vos amis ! http://messenger.msn.fr

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 03:00:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11381
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 03:00:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECBCAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 9:02:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13398190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 09:08:28 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ID8SC04237 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:08:28 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-59.panax.com [63.163.41.59])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ID8Rj31972 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:08:27 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020717211610.00b7f0d0@mail.panax.com>
            <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEJIGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020716100016.00bf3b80@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718090543.00b4deb8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:08:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020718102539.02bb7dd0@victoria.nb.no>

At 10:26 AM 7/18/2002 +0200, espen wrote:

>The Scandinavian "anchovy" is not anchovy at all. It is sprat. (And so are
>our sardines.)

Aha!  That's the same general taxonomic group as the pilchards and sardines.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 03:11:31 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12419
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 03:11:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013AD03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 9:19:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13398898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 09:19:48 -0400
Received: from mail.infochan.com (mail.infochan.com [208.52.68.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IDJkC05976 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:19:47 -0400
Received: from [192.168.254.13] ([208.138.22.79]) by mail.infochan.com
          (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with
          ESMTP id com for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          08:19:37 -0500
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B95C2A98.F615%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:19:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Collision
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I am investigating whether to sign up with a cellular provider in the US,
for my 3 or 4 visits a year. I have a GSM phone so googled on "GSM provider
US" The fifth link listed (and the first one I clicked, without knowing the
connection) was

<http://www.istori.com/log/archives/00000103.html>

which contains a brief introduction to GSM in the US keyed by Peter
Kaminski. Thanks for the info, Pete.

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 03:13:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12426
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 03:13:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013AD2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 9:21:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13399014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 09:21:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IDLRC06246 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:21:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8CEF1811C; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 06:21:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718132126.8CEF1811C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 06:21:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Collision
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B95C2A98.F615%peterlevy@email.com> from Peter Levy at "Jul 18,
              2002  8:19:36 am"

Peter Levy said:
> I am investigating whether to sign up with a cellular provider in the US,
> for my 3 or 4 visits a year. I have a GSM phone so googled on "GSM provider
> US" The fifth link listed (and the first one I clicked, without knowing the
> connection) was
>
> <http://www.istori.com/log/archives/00000103.html>
>
> which contains a brief introduction to GSM in the US keyed by Peter
> Kaminski. Thanks for the info, Pete.

Earworm:  "It's a small, small world..."

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 03:18:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12440
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 03:18:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013ADD6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 9:26:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13399735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 09:26:29 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IDQSC08014 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:26:28 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust229.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.231]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005331995@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 09:26:28 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207171025410.15098-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <3D35CE44.91D0FFA5@maynor.net> <3D35DA9F.752C1530@valstar.net>
            <3D35F660.5738F192@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D36C240.B271E049@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:27:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
> He has a yard crew and thus doesn't know anything about other such
> crews.  And his yard crew works in that area only.  There's no way they
> would come over here.  The golf carts they use might even be stopped by
> the police if they started heading all over town.

Wow! You know what? I have ESP. I knew you would reply like this (even
without asking the man who owns most of your old neighborhood).

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 03:31:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12830
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 03:31:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC064@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 9:34:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13401212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 09:39:55 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IDdtC11313 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:39:55 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6IDdscf008001 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 06:39:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020717202501.00ab6ea0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020718063844.00ac8ad0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 06:40:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207172355410.40597-100000@idiom.com>

We should. It's only open Tuesday-Saturday so we can't go this week
end.  Pick a Saturday!  Are week days possible for the rest of you?

Betty

At 11:56 PM 7/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Oh!  That's right near me and I've never been.  Care to make it a bay area
>wordslers event?
>
>  Sharon
>
>On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
>
> > Is this where you went when you were here last time?  Larry and I may
> visit.
> >
> > http://www.filoli.org/
> >
> > Betty
> >

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 03:46:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12868
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 03:46:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013B124@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 9:55:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13402928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 09:55:05 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IDt5C15619 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:55:05 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6IDt4cf008150 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 06:55:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020717202501.00ab6ea0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020718065452.00ac5f00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 06:55:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130309b95bea06c403@[66.237.73.53]>

At 08:53 PM 7/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Is this where you went when you were here last time?  Larry and I may visit.
> >
> >http://www.filoli.org/
> >
> >Betty
>
>There's a review by the Underbelly Guy (<http://www.sjunderbelly.com>):
>
>http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/11.22.01/underbelly-0147.html
>
>It looks pretty cool.

Let's skip it and go to Buck's.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 03:52:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12891
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 03:52:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC35F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 9:55:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13403635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:01:17 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IE1HC17423 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:01:17 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust229.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.231]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005332787@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:01:10 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D36CA62.643CCC0D@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:02:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Sheesh
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From a librarian. I want to name him, but I won't.

"I would like here from those of you in Libraries how your Library is
doing as a rememberance of 9-ll."
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 03:55:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12900
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 03:55:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC3A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 9:58:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13403797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:03:47 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IE3kC17867 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:03:46 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-59.panax.com [63.163.41.59])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IE3jj09862 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:03:45 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718100227.00b57258@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:03:42 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sheesh
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36CA62.643CCC0D@valstar.net>

At 10:02 AM 7/18/2002 -0400, alyce wrote:
> >From a librarian. I want to name him, but I won't.
>
>"I would like here from those of you in Libraries how your Library is
>doing as a rememberance of 9-ll."

Is he the same guy who writes the Nigerian-money scam spams?

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 03:56:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12904
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 03:56:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC3D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 9:59:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13403946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:05:10 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IE5AC18243 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:05:10 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6IE59sS029536 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          10:05:10 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001301c22e64$20e01980$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:05:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D362444.F9A3758E@maynor.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:13 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Pizza
>
>
> Adam Hartfield wrote:
>
> > But...but...Clyde, how can you be this giant gourmand and not like
> > anchovies????
>
> Although I've never broken bread with Clyde, my impression is
> that he's
> not at all a gourmand.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>

Using this definition : A lover of good food. from dictionary.com sounds
like he is a gourmand.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:00:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12917
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:00:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013B328@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:08:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13404311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:08:55 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IE8tC19143 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:08:55 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 336AF823E; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 07:08:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718140854.336AF823E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:08:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <001301c22e64$20e01980$48305b80@EAGLE72> from "Alec D. Plotkin"
              at "Jul 18, 2002 10: 5: 9 am"

Alec D. Plotkin said:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: English Language Discussion Group
> > [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:13 PM
> > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Pizza
> >
> >
> > Adam Hartfield wrote:
> >
> > > But...but...Clyde, how can you be this giant gourmand and not like
> > > anchovies????
> >
> > Although I've never broken bread with Clyde, my impression is
> > that he's
> > not at all a gourmand.
> >
> > --
> >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
> >
>
> Using this definition : A lover of good food. from dictionary.com sounds
> like he is a gourmand.

Me, too. (I mean, I couldn't figure out wtf Natalie was talking
about--but that's hardly news.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:03:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12921
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:03:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC48B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:06:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13404637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:11:43 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEBhC20018 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:11:43 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01591 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:11:24 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          10:11:24 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 10:11:23 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D369448.24283.58F918@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:11:22 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Sheesh
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36CA62.643CCC0D@valstar.net>

Yikes!
This is the kind of sentence that is typical of chat.
BrP


> From a librarian. I want to name him, but I won't.
>
> "I would like here from those of you in Libraries how your Library is
> doing as a rememberance of 9-ll."
> --
> alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:20:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12950
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:20:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC64D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:23:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13406202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:28:55 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEStC24077 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:28:55 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08258 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:28:46 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          10:28:55 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 10:28:17 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <126.13bff4ed.2a678e16@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Jul 17,
            2002 11:20:54 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D369838.19802.685A35@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:28:10 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718035135.A022B81EC@yellow.rahul.net>

Perhaps this is way too personal, but what the hell.
 I rarely cry these days - with one exception - whenever Steve and I
get together, the first chance we have to snuggle up.  I wrap my
arms around him and burst into tears.  It's neither a feeling of
sadness or of joy.  It is just part of the letting go and arriving at the
one place I feel truly at home.


BrP


> Evelyn Duncan said:
> > What if you can't cry?  During the past three years, tears have come
> > to my eyes only twice and there has been no sobbing, bawling, etc.
>
> I was thinking of the list non-cryers this morning when I was crying.
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:22:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12957
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:22:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013B5FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:30:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13406455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:30:21 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEULC24719 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:30:21 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7109B8140; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 07:30:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718143019.7109B8140@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:30:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D369838.19802.685A35@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              18, 2002 10:28:10 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> Perhaps this is way too personal, but what the hell.
>  I rarely cry these days - with one exception - whenever Steve and I
> get together, the first chance we have to snuggle up.  I wrap my
> arms around him and burst into tears.  It's neither a feeling of
> sadness or of joy.  It is just part of the letting go and arriving at the
> one place I feel truly at home.

I understand this; I've had people I did this with.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:24:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12962
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:24:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC6B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:27:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13406586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:32:40 -0400
Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.243]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6IEWeC25056 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          10:32:40 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0146.dialsprint.net ([63.190.0.146]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17VCKb-0002uc-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu,
          18 Jul 2002 10:32:38 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207171025410.15098-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <3D35CE44.91D0FFA5@maynor.net> <3D35DA9F.752C1530@valstar.net>
            <3D35F660.5738F192@maynor.net> <3D36C240.B271E049@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D36D183.4A675C2D@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:32:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:
>
> Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > He has a yard crew and thus doesn't know anything about other such
> > crews.  And his yard crew works in that area only.  There's no way they
> > would come over here.  The golf carts they use might even be stopped by
> > the police if they started heading all over town.
>
> Wow! You know what? I have ESP. I knew you would reply like this (even
> without asking the man who owns most of your old neighborhood).

Because of all the difficulties involved here, I've decided Natalie has
these choices: sell the house and move, cancel the trip to Finland and
mow her own grass, or be unhappy and just let the grass grow.

--
Sylvia Edwards
Litopia    http://www.edwardsly.com
Sylvie's Place    http://www.geocities.com/s.words/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:26:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12969
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:26:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC6DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:28:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13406673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:34:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEYRC25229 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:34:28 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2675E7EE7; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 07:34:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718143427.2675E7EE7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:34:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36D183.4A675C2D@pop.mindspring.com> from Sylvia Edwards at
              "Jul 18, 2002  9:32:34 am"

Sylvia Edwards said:
> Because of all the difficulties involved here, I've decided Natalie has
> these choices: sell the house and move, cancel the trip to Finland and
> mow her own grass, or be unhappy and just let the grass grow.

You forgot:  rent sheep for the month of August.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:27:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12973
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:27:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC6ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:29:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13406724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:35:30 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEZSC25371 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:35:28 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10806 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:35:27 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          10:35:28 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 10:35:26 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3699E7.231.6EEE64@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:35:21 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36D183.4A675C2D@pop.mindspring.com>

Has anyone suggested a goat?

BrP



> Because of all the difficulties involved here, I've decided Natalie has
> these choices: sell the house and move, cancel the trip to Finland and
> mow her own grass, or be unhappy and just let the grass grow.
>
> --
> Sylvia Edwards
> Litopia    http://www.edwardsly.com
> Sylvie's Place    http://www.geocities.com/s.words/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:28:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12977
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:28:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0013B6A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:36:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13406836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:36:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEadC25585 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:36:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 48C477E71; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 07:36:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718143635.48C477E71@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:36:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3699E7.231.6EEE64@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              18, 2002 10:35:21 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> Has anyone suggested a goat?

:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:29:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12985
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:29:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC725@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:32:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13406912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:37:58 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEbwC25772 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:37:58 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11579 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:37:57 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          10:37:57 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 10:37:28 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D36D183.4A675C2D@pop.mindspring.com> from Sylvia Edwards at      
            "Jul 18, 2002  9:32:34 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D369A5E.24525.70BF24@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:37:20 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718143427.2675E7EE7@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen,

  We're oh so close, but just bit off this morning.

Paul

> Has anyone suggested a goat?

BrP

> You forgot:  rent sheep for the month of August.
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:29:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12989
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:29:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013B6C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:38:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13406925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:38:10 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEcAC25802 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:38:10 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6IEc9cf024051 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:38:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020718035135.A022B81EC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <126.13bff4ed.2a678e16@aol.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020718073750.00abeca0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:38:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D369838.19802.685A35@localhost>

At 10:28 AM 7/18/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Perhaps this is way too personal, but what the hell.
>  I rarely cry these days - with one exception - whenever Steve and I
>get together, the first chance we have to snuggle up.  I wrap my
>arms around him and burst into tears.  It's neither a feeling of
>sadness or of joy.  It is just part of the letting go and arriving at the
>one place I feel truly at home.
>
>
>BrP

Do you see a date in the future when you'll be able to stay with him?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:33:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12999
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:33:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013B72A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:41:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13407095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:41:45 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f254.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.129]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEfiC26187 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:41:44 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          18 Jul 2002 07:41:39 -0700
Received: from 207.162.163.19 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 14:41:38 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [207.162.163.19]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2002 14:41:39.0320 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[39A2A780:01C22E69]
Message-ID:  <F254VHURNJpIZMamXdn00014118@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:41:38 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Gourmet v. Gourmand
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Alec/Karen:


> >>> Using this definition : A lover of good food. from dictionary.com
>sounds
>like he is a gourmand.

>Me, too. (I mean, I couldn't figure out wtf Natalie was talking
about--but that's hardly news.)

Although I'm not quite sure what any of us are talking about, here's my
take:

It was explained to me in French, in France, that <<gourmand>> has a
connotation of "excessive" appreciation, while <<gourmet>> did not. Perhaps
another source would reveal this. Perhaps I don't know wtf I'm talking about
-- but I think I do.

AS




_________________________________________________________________
Rejoignez MSN Hotmail, le plus important service de messagerie
http://www.hotmail.com/fr

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:37:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13013
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:37:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC7CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:40:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13407380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:45:59 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEjwC26922 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:45:58 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id HAA69820 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          07:45:58 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207180742040.49890-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:45:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020718063844.00ac8ad0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

Weekdays are possible and weekends as well.  This next week I'm going to
be at Tassajara (my favorite place on earth, so far).  What about week
after next?

Sharon

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

> We should. It's only open Tuesday-Saturday so we can't go this week
> end.  Pick a Saturday!  Are week days possible for the rest of you?
>
> Betty
>
> At 11:56 PM 7/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Oh!  That's right near me and I've never been.  Care to make it a bay area
> >wordslers event?
> >
> >  Sharon
> >
> >On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
> >
> > > Is this where you went when you were here last time?  Larry and I may
> > visit.
> > >
> > > http://www.filoli.org/
> > >
> > > Betty
> > >
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:38:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13018
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:38:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC7EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:41:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13407489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:46:59 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEkwC27104 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:46:58 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15643 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:46:58 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          10:46:58 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 10:46:53 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D369838.19802.685A35@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D369C9A.22604.7978CF@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:46:51 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020718073750.00abeca0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

I wish I could say yes.  Unfortunately, that day is still only a dream.
Changes pending in Canadian law perhaps move the day sooner,
but the financial issues are daunting. We keep telling ourselves and
each other that one of two things will happen - we will be strong
enough to clear the obstacles and build a life together or we will be
strong enough to create the kind of deep friendship that transcends
the circumstances of our individual lives.

BrP




>
> Do you see a date in the future when you'll be able to stay with him?
>
> Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:39:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13022
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:39:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC7F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:41:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13407552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:47:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IElaC27339 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:47:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8084E80C1; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718144735.8084E80C1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:47:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Gourmet v. Gourmand
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F254VHURNJpIZMamXdn00014118@hotmail.com> from Amy Burns Short at
              "Jul 18, 2002  2:41:38 pm"

Amy Burns Short said:
> Alec/Karen:
> > >>> Using this definition : A lover of good food. from dictionary.com
> >sounds
> >like he is a gourmand.
>
> >Me, too. (I mean, I couldn't figure out wtf Natalie was talking
> about--but that's hardly news.)
>
> Although I'm not quite sure what any of us are talking about, here's my
> take:
>
> It was explained to me in French, in France, that <<gourmand>> has a
> connotation of "excessive" appreciation, while <<gourmet>> did not. Perhaps
> another source would reveal this. Perhaps I don't know wtf I'm talking about
> -- but I think I do.

Of course, you do, Amy--that's your hallmark.

In any case, I know that definition. If you checked some English
sources, you would find that both definitions are listed, but which is
primary depends on the source.

I think gourmand fits Clyde better than gourmet, because the latter
can have overtones of [excessive] refinement, and one of the things I
like about Clyde's menus is that they are by and large plain.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:40:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13026
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:40:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC80A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:42:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13407594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:48:25 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEmPC27423 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:48:25 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust138.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.140]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004025141@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:48:25 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D369448.24283.58F918@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D36D573.2507B029@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:49:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Sheesh
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> Yikes!
> This is the kind of sentence that is typical of chat.
>
But this was not in chat--it's the exlibris list, which normally is
quite erudite, the people being reference librarians and all.

alyce


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:42:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13030
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:42:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC839@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:44:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13407704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:50:26 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEoQC27721 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:50:26 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust138.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.140]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004025190@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:50:26 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D3699E7.231.6EEE64@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D36D5EC.9B9B4117@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:51:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> Has anyone suggested a goat?
>
Great idea, and then all those goat's head recipes could be used when
Natalie returns.

alyce
--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:43:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13038
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:43:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC878@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:46:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13407902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:51:48 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEplC28049 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:51:48 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 57B4E80EA; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 07:51:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718145142.57B4E80EA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:51:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36D5EC.9B9B4117@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 18,
              2002 10:51:24 am"

alyce cresap said:
> "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone suggested a goat?
> >
> Great idea, and then all those goat's head recipes could be used when
> Natalie returns.

And she can make curry with the body! Yum!

Karen
goat curry fan

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:43:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13042
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:43:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013B86B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:52:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13407916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:52:02 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f101.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEq2C28116 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:52:02 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          18 Jul 2002 07:51:57 -0700
Received: from 207.162.163.19 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 14:51:56 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [207.162.163.19]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2002 14:51:57.0053 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A9D53AD0:01C22E6A]
Message-ID:  <F101jBUJ0c9OizruH5800019069@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:51:56 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Parallel Universe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

That's what it's been like spending time with a gaggle (their choice of
word) of Burns cousins who are here from Cleveland, Ohio for my Dad's
uncle's funeral and burial (who was 90).

In many ways we have similar physical and personality traits (i.e., quirks).
It's spooky in a good way. A couple of them I had met one time each. They
seem to be a good-natured, lively clan and I wish I had known them more
before now. However, I am certain that at least the group around my age will
now keep in touch more. I may go visit in August.

I am especilly impressed with the son of my father's first cousin, who is a
lawyer. What would be the proper <name> for his relationship to me? I've
never been good at that type of thing.

The funeral is this afternoon and there will be a gathering at my Dad's ,
apres-burial, so we will get to spend more time together.

AS

_________________________________________________________________
Affichez, modifiez et partagez gratuitement vos photos en ligne:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:45:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13051
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:45:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013B89D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:54:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13408023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:54:02 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEs2C28378 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:54:02 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust138.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.140]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005334367@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:54:02 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D36D6C4.806EAAB@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:55:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      The radio sez:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The news is that, since the dot.com bubble has burst, "techies" are no
longer deemed desirable as love objects--women now prefer to date cops
and firemen.
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:49:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13060
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:49:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC90D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:52:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13408393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:57:39 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEvdC29070 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:57:39 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6IEvccf011957 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:57:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020718063844.00ac8ad0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020718075640.00acc4b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:57:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207180742040.49890-100000@idiom.com>

That will work.  We have to invite Myles when we settle on a date.  Ken,
Sharon, Janet, Pete?

Betty

At 07:45 AM 7/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Weekdays are possible and weekends as well.  This next week I'm going to
>be at Tassajara (my favorite place on earth, so far).  What about week
>after next?
>
>Sharon
>
>On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
>
> > We should. It's only open Tuesday-Saturday so we can't go this week
> > end.  Pick a Saturday!  Are week days possible for the rest of you?
> >
> > Betty
> >
> > At 11:56 PM 7/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Oh!  That's right near me and I've never been.  Care to make it a bay area
> > >wordslers event?
> > >
> > >  Sharon
> > >
> > >On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is this where you went when you were here last time?  Larry and I may
> > > visit.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.filoli.org/
> > > >
> > > > Betty
> > > >
> >

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:53:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13071
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:53:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC99B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:56:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13408856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 11:01:43 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IF1gC30286 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:01:42 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IEsCb27948 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:54:12 -0400
Received: from [131.128.1.150] (BEACHBUM.ACC.uri.edu [131.128.1.150]) by
          terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g6IF0Ik00329 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:00:18 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Message-ID:  <l03020925b95c88657a18@[131.128.1.150]>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:03:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Jim Bradley <fna104@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The radio sez:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36D6C4.806EAAB@valstar.net>

>The news is that, since the dot.com bubble has burst, "techies" are no
>longer deemed desirable as love objects--women now prefer to date cops
>and firemen.

The current (July 02) issue of BIZAAR (sp?) says that women love chefs,
and includes a picture of my son and 4 others.

It goes on to say that women who date chefs always play second fiddle
to their restaurants.

/Jim

>--
>alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:55:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13079
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:55:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC9CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:58:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13408950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 11:03:53 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IF3rC30574 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:03:53 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6IF3qcf026802 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:03:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020718080305.00ab9a60@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:04:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Parallel Universe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F101jBUJ0c9OizruH5800019069@hotmail.com>

Weddings and funerals are when people connect it seems.  I'm glad family
reunions are popular again.

What did you end up making?

Betty

At 02:51 PM 7/18/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>That's what it's been like spending time with a gaggle (their choice of
>word) of Burns cousins who are here from Cleveland, Ohio for my Dad's
>uncle's funeral and burial (who was 90).
>
>In many ways we have similar physical and personality traits (i.e., quirks).
>It's spooky in a good way. A couple of them I had met one time each. They
>seem to be a good-natured, lively clan and I wish I had known them more
>before now. However, I am certain that at least the group around my age will
>now keep in touch more. I may go visit in August.
>
>I am especilly impressed with the son of my father's first cousin, who is a
>lawyer. What would be the proper <name> for his relationship to me? I've
>never been good at that type of thing.
>
>The funeral is this afternoon and there will be a gathering at my Dad's ,
>apres-burial, so we will get to spend more time together.
>
>AS
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Affichez, modifiez et partagez gratuitement vos photos en ligne:
>http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:56:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13086
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:56:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECC9F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:59:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13409093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 11:04:57 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IF4uC30914 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:04:56 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22455 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:04:56 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          11:04:56 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 11:04:41 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D36A0C0.27947.89A9F3@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:04:32 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Parallel Universe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F101jBUJ0c9OizruH5800019069@hotmail.com>

He is your second cousin.

Spending time with family is always instructive - particularly if they
are relatives that you never see and haven't spent time with in the
past.  There are family traits, stories and legends, styles of
approaching the world that aren't apparent as such until you
experience the similarities first hand.


BrP

> I am especilly impressed with the son of my father's first cousin, who is a
> lawyer. What would be the proper <name> for his relationship to me? I've
> never been good at that type of thing.
>
> The funeral is this afternoon and there will be a gathering at my Dad's ,
> apres-burial, so we will get to spend more time together.
>
> AS
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Affichez, modifiez et partagez gratuitement vos photos en ligne:
> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:57:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13090
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:57:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECCA0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:00:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13409137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 11:05:41 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IF5fC31093 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:05:41 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6IF5ecf018769 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:05:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020718063844.00ac8ad0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020718080526.00a1dc50@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:05:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207180742040.49890-100000@idiom.com>

What part is your favorite?  The bathhouses?

Betty

At 07:45 AM 7/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Weekdays are possible and weekends as well.  This next week I'm going to
>be at Tassajara (my favorite place on earth, so far).  What about week
>after next?
>
>Sharon
>
>On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
>
> > We should. It's only open Tuesday-Saturday so we can't go this week
> > end.  Pick a Saturday!  Are week days possible for the rest of you?
> >
> > Betty
> >
> > At 11:56 PM 7/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Oh!  That's right near me and I've never been.  Care to make it a bay area
> > >wordslers event?
> > >
> > >  Sharon
> > >
> > >On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is this where you went when you were here last time?  Larry and I may
> > > visit.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.filoli.org/
> > > >
> > > > Betty
> > > >
> >

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 04:58:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13094
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 04:58:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECCA5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:01:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13409442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 11:06:58 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IF6vC31591 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:06:57 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6IF6lcf031116 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:06:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D36D6C4.806EAAB@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020718080606.00ac0c20@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:06:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The radio sez:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <l03020925b95c88657a18@[131.128.1.150]>

At 11:03 AM 7/18/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >The news is that, since the dot.com bubble has burst, "techies" are no
> >longer deemed desirable as love objects--women now prefer to date cops
> >and firemen.
>
>The current (July 02) issue of BIZAAR (sp?) says that women love chefs,
>and includes a picture of my son and 4 others.
>
>It goes on to say that women who date chefs always play second fiddle
>to their restaurants.

I love my chef!

Is there an on-line version of Bizaar?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 05:01:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13103
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 05:01:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECCA9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:04:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13409620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 11:10:11 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f214.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.214]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IFABC32135 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:10:11 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          18 Jul 2002 08:10:05 -0700
Received: from 207.162.163.19 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 15:10:05 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [207.162.163.19]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2002 15:10:05.0869 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[32D15DD0:01C22E6D]
Message-ID:  <F214Aoa2JB1ndcx3Vp200019149@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:10:05 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Parallel Universe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Weddings and funerals are when people connect it seems.  I'm glad >family
>reunions are popular again. What did you end up making?

>Betty

I just finished making a trip to The Lite Side, a really nice
bakery/restaurant near the lake for a "party tray" of assorted freshly baked
low-fat pastries and muffins. :).

I am, however, making a shopping trip tomorrow for ingredients to most or
all of Natalie's suggested delights and will make them ahead this weekend. I
plan to be entertaining a wee bit in the near future. I already bought some
extra baking sheets.

AS



_________________________________________________________________
Affichez, modifiez et partagez gratuitement vos photos en ligne:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 05:02:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13108
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 05:02:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013BA76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:10:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13409632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 11:10:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IFASC32153 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:10:28 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 61C338223; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 08:10:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718151024.61C338223@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:10:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Menu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I'm leaving out two courses, the clear soup following the appetizer,
and agemono (the deep-fried dish) towards the end.

Zensai:  potstickers/vinegared crab/hiyayakko (tofu w/ scallions, fish flakes)
Fish:  eel (broiled w/ a sauce)
Yakimono:  grilled vegetables, with a yakitori sauce/rolled egg
Mushimono:  steamed salmon casserole (includes tofu/yuba)
Nimono: boiled squid
[Agemono]
Aemono: asparagus in mustard sauce/spinach w/ goma-[miso?]-ae (sesame
           sauce--maybe sesame and miso if I can find red miso in a small
           enough quantity)
Rice
Miso soup
Pickles
Tea
Fruit

Does this seem excessive? It doesn't to me, but *er* nearly fainted
when I told him the number of course. (But this is why I almost never
cook Japanese dinners.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 05:09:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13113
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 05:09:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECCBBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:12:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13410559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 11:17:57 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IFHvC01884 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:17:57 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28491 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:17:48 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          11:17:49 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 11:17:21 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D36A3B8.12868.BBF44A@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:17:12 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Menu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718151024.61C338223@yellow.rahul.net>

Yum!

Is my invitation in the mail?

BrP





> I'm leaving out two courses, the clear soup following the appetizer,
> and agemono (the deep-fried dish) towards the end.
>
> Zensai:  potstickers/vinegared crab/hiyayakko (tofu w/ scallions, fish flakes)
> Fish:  eel (broiled w/ a sauce)
> Yakimono:  grilled vegetables, with a yakitori sauce/rolled egg
> Mushimono:  steamed salmon casserole (includes tofu/yuba)
> Nimono: boiled squid
> [Agemono]
> Aemono: asparagus in mustard sauce/spinach w/ goma-[miso?]-ae (sesame
>            sauce--maybe sesame and miso if I can find red miso in a small
>            enough quantity)
> Rice
> Miso soup
> Pickles
> Tea
> Fruit
>
> Does this seem excessive? It doesn't to me, but *er* nearly fainted
> when I told him the number of course. (But this is why I almost never
> cook Japanese dinners.)
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 05:10:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13120
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 05:10:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECCBC6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:12:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13410594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 11:18:26 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IFIQC01979 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:18:26 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28883 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:18:23 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          11:18:25 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 11:18:21 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D35857E.19102.17DAB86@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D36A3F6.32581.BCE4DA@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:18:14 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130305b95be0106cdf@[66.237.73.53]>

> >It's a little dated - but then so am I.
>
> >BrP
>
> Let me get this straight (so to speak): you've got a wonderful boyfriend in
> Toronto, but you're still doing a little dating? ;-)
>
> Ken Miller
> Department of Ambiguity


only a little

;-)


BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 05:18:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13132
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 05:18:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECCCBE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:20:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13411306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 11:26:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IFQWC03434 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:26:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 71EBF8282; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 08:26:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718152631.71EBF8282@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:26:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Menu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36A3B8.12868.BBF44A@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              18, 2002 11:17:12 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> Yum!
>
> Is my invitation in the mail?

You have an open invitation, Paul. Both you and Steve. Though, given
that it's supposed to be in the mid-90's for the next week or so, you
may want to wait, and we can do a fall or winter meal.

I'd never attempt this by myself, but *er* is helping with the
cooking, that was part of the deal. I'm going to make up two packets
with copies of all the recipes.

*er* has an excellent sense of presentation, better than mine, I
think, and that will help.

Dang, I wish I had a camera, but I don't. You'll just have to wait for
the postprandial report...

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 05:18:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13134
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 05:18:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0013BC8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:26:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13411310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 11:26:33 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IFQXC03444 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:26:33 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6IFQWn03365 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          10:26:32 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020718145142.57B4E80EA@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <010b01c22e6f$b42eaac0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:28:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> alyce cresap said:
> > "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
> > >
> > > Has anyone suggested a goat?
> > >
> > Great idea, and then all those goat's head recipes could be used
when
> > Natalie returns.
>
> And she can make curry with the body! Yum!
>
> Karen
> goat curry fan

And she can get rid of all her old tin cans.

             - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 05:19:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13148
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 05:19:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECCCD7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:21:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13411407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 11:27:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IFRHC03711 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:27:17 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 56E1D8286; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 08:27:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718152708.56E1D8286@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:27:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <010b01c22e6f$b42eaac0$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 18, 2002 10:28: 1 am"

Doris Markland said:
> > alyce cresap said:
> > > "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone suggested a goat?
> > > >
> > > Great idea, and then all those goat's head recipes could be used
> when
> > > Natalie returns.
> >
> > And she can make curry with the body! Yum!
> >
> > Karen
> > goat curry fan
>
> And she can get rid of all her old tin cans.

Before she makes the curry, I think.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 05:27:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13160
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 05:27:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECCDC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:30:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13412043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 11:35:45 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IFZiC05187 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:35:44 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6IFZin12438 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          10:35:44 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEGLFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <013a01c22e70$fd025ac0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:37:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Count me in as a cryer. Not a bigtime cryer...but I can certainly be
moved
> to tears.
>
> Sandra
>
> > Evelyn Duncan said:
> > > What if you can't cry?  During the past three years, tears have
come
> > > to my eyes only twice and there has been no sobbing, bawling, etc.
> >
> > I was thinking of the list non-cryers this morning when I was
crying.
> >
> > Karen
> >

I am a cryer.  Moved to tears easily.  I have never shed tears
of anger or frustration, but I tear up over a happy surprise
or a fond memory, and beautiful music can start a flood
so that I twice had to drop out of choirs.

            - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 05:28:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13167
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 05:28:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECCDDF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:30:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13412081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 11:36:21 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IFaLC05231 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:36:21 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06794 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:36:20 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          11:36:21 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 11:36:00 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D35836D.29986.1759569@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D36A818.10248.CD0AD7@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:35:52 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020718095218.00b47850@victoria.nb.no>

Near Ottawa there is an area of peat bog (Mer Bleue) that has a
boardwalk constructed across it.  It is a very interesting habitat -
filled with dwarf larch and birch and lots of blueberry bushes. Out of
context, the berries would have seemed a little sour, but somehow
they tasted very sweet.

BrP





>
> Wild strawberries - and the blueberries and raspberries are coming along.
> The cloudberries are ripe in the Oslo forest.
>
> Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 05:33:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13180
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 05:33:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013BE53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:41:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13412570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 11:41:44 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IFfhC06119 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:41:43 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IFYDb31330 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:34:13 -0400
Received: from [131.128.1.150] (BEACHBUM.ACC.uri.edu [131.128.1.150]) by
          terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g6IFeSk29679 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:40:28 -0400
References: <l03020925b95c88657a18@[131.128.1.150]>
            <3D36D6C4.806EAAB@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Message-ID:  <l03020926b95c9284dac0@[131.128.1.150]>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:43:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Jim Bradley <fna104@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The radio sez:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020718080606.00ac0c20@uclink.berkeley.edu>

>At 11:03 AM 7/18/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>> >The news is that, since the dot.com bubble has burst, "techies" are no
>> >longer deemed desirable as love objects--women now prefer to date cops
>> >and firemen.
>>
>>The current (July 02) issue of BIZAAR (sp?) says that women love chefs,
>>and includes a picture of my son and 4 others.
>>
>>It goes on to say that women who date chefs always play second fiddle
>>to their restaurants.
>
>I love my chef!
>
>Is there an on-line version of Bizaar?

http://www.harpersbazaar.com/

but it doesn't seem to have the right issue, or an easy way to navigate
to it.

/Jim

>
>Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 05:53:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13230
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 05:53:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECD0DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:56:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13414598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 12:02:10 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f160.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IG2AY10902 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:02:10 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          18 Jul 2002 09:02:04 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 16:02:04 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2002 16:02:04.0675 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[75C56530:01C22E74]
Message-ID:  <F160QtYdVzDpubxcbz3000003bd@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:02:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Perhaps this is way too personal, but what the hell.

I know someone who goes to sad movies because they can make him cry.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:04:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13266
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 06:04:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013C1FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:13:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13415300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 12:13:04 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IGD4Y12631 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:13:04 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-59.panax.com [63.163.41.59])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IGD2j02792 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:13:03 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <001301c22e64$20e01980$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718115543.00b5de90@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:12:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718140854.336AF823E@yellow.rahul.net>

At 07:08 AM 7/18/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
> > Using this definition : A lover of good food. from dictionary.com sounds
> > like he is a gourmand.
>
>Me, too. (I mean, I couldn't figure out wtf Natalie was talking
>about--but that's hardly news.)

It is not my practice to come to the defense of Natalie, but in this case,
she is more nearly correct than are you.

Gourmand or gormand : Webster's Unabridged notes that the word comes from
the French 'gourmand,' a glutton.  Definition 1 is "a greedy or ravenous
eater; a glutton."  Definition 2 equates it with gourmet and epicure.

Roget includes 'gormand' under 994. Gluttony,  whereas 'gourmet'  and
'gourmand' are synonymized under  897. Taste, Tastefulness.

Garner (Modern American Usage (sic) indicates that although once
synonymous, the connotations of the two have diverged with 'gourmand'
taking on the negative connotation as noted above under Webster: 1.

cwv
wondering if dictionary.com is a Gatesian product

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:38:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13497
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 06:38:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013C55C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:46:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13418677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 12:46:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IGkoY21009 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:46:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7E5F17F0B; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 09:46:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718164649.7E5F17F0B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:46:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718115543.00b5de90@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 18, 2002 12:12:58 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> cwv
> wondering if dictionary.com is a Gatesian product

Dunno, but here's what AHD says about 'gourmet':
" A connoisseur of fine food and drink. ETYMOLOGY:French, from Old
French, alteration (influenced by gourmand, glutton) of groumet,
servant, valet in charge of wines, from Middle English grom, boy,
valet.

"USAGE NOTE: A gourmet is a person with discriminating taste in food
and wine, as is a gourmand. Because gourmand can also mean "one who
enjoys food in great quantities" or even "a gluttonous eater", care
should be taken to make clear its intended sense. An epicure is much
the same as a gourmet, but the word may sometimes carry overtones of
excessive refinement. This use of epicure is a misrepresentation of
Epicurean philosophy, which, while it professed that pleasure was the
highest good, was hardly given to excessive concern with food and
drink."

And here's what they say about 'gourmand'.
"NOUN:1. A lover of good food. 2. A gluttonous eater. See Usage Note at
gourmet. ETYMOLOGY:Middle English gourmant, glutton, from Old French
gormant."

So, whatever. You'll always be a gourmand (in sense 1) to me.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:42:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13515
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 06:42:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECD612@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:45:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13419064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 12:51:06 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6IGp6Y21831 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          12:51:06 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6IGp54409992 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul
          2002 12:51:05 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEHJFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:50:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020718063844.00ac8ad0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

weekdays work for me but I don't think they'll work for Bork. Not that I'm
speaking for her, of course.

Sandra
>
> We should. It's only open Tuesday-Saturday so we can't go this week
> end.  Pick a Saturday!  Are week days possible for the rest of you?
>
> Betty
>
> At 11:56 PM 7/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Oh!  That's right near me and I've never been.  Care to make it
> a bay area
> >wordslers event?
> >
> >  Sharon
> >
> >On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
> >
> > > Is this where you went when you were here last time?  Larry and I may
> > visit.
> > >
> > > http://www.filoli.org/
> > >
> > > Betty
> > >
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:43:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13530
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 06:43:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0013C5E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:51:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13419102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 12:51:39 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6IGpdY21911 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          12:51:39 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6IGpc4101342 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul
          2002 12:51:38 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEHKFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:50:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020718065452.00ac5f00@uclink.berkeley.edu>

in woodside?

Sch.

> Let's skip it and go to Buck's.
>
> Betty
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:45:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13546
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 06:45:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECD64E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:47:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13419340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 12:53:18 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6IGrIY22514 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          12:53:18 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6IGrH4452060 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul
          2002 12:53:17 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEHKFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:52:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D369838.19802.685A35@localhost>

wow. how nice to feel that safe with someone.

Sandra

> Perhaps this is way too personal, but what the hell.
>  I rarely cry these days - with one exception - whenever Steve and I
> get together, the first chance we have to snuggle up.  I wrap my
> arms around him and burst into tears.  It's neither a feeling of
> sadness or of joy.  It is just part of the letting go and arriving at the
> one place I feel truly at home.
>
>
> BrP
>
>
> > Evelyn Duncan said:
> > > What if you can't cry?  During the past three years, tears have come
> > > to my eyes only twice and there has been no sobbing, bawling, etc.
> >
> > I was thinking of the list non-cryers this morning when I was crying.
> >
> > Karen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:46:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13563
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 06:46:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECD661@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:49:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13419393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 12:54:46 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IGskY22673 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:54:46 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6IGsjcf020753 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:54:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020718080606.00ac0c20@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <l03020925b95c88657a18@[131.128.1.150]>
            <3D36D6C4.806EAAB@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020718095406.00ac7480@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:54:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The radio sez:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <l03020926b95c9284dac0@[131.128.1.150]>

At 11:43 AM 7/18/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >At 11:03 AM 7/18/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >> >The news is that, since the dot.com bubble has burst, "techies" are no
> >> >longer deemed desirable as love objects--women now prefer to date cops
> >> >and firemen.
> >>
> >>The current (July 02) issue of BIZAAR (sp?) says that women love chefs,
> >>and includes a picture of my son and 4 others.
> >>
> >>It goes on to say that women who date chefs always play second fiddle
> >>to their restaurants.
> >
> >I love my chef!
> >
> >Is there an on-line version of Bizaar?
>
>http://www.harpersbazaar.com/
>
>but it doesn't seem to have the right issue, or an easy way to navigate
>to it.
>
>/Jim

Thanks. I'm sure I'm going to be getting a lot of spam from the first
Bizaar  sites I visited.  Worse than Steph's spam.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:46:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13567
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 06:46:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECD66B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:49:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13419423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 12:55:12 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6IGtCY22752 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          12:55:12 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6IGtB4224216 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul
          2002 12:55:11 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEHLFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:54:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The radio sez:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36D6C4.806EAAB@valstar.net>

I'm pretty sure there are more techies than cops and firemen. It's all about
sleeping (euphemistically) with soldiers.

Sandra

>
>
> The news is that, since the dot.com bubble has burst, "techies" are no
> longer deemed desirable as love objects--women now prefer to date cops
> and firemen.
> --
> alyce
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:48:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13571
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 06:48:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013C652@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:56:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13419497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 12:56:32 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IGuVY22896 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:56:32 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6IGuUcf007343 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:56:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020718063844.00ac8ad0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020718095605.00a25100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:56:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEHJFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

Perhaps she can take a very long lunch!

Betty

At 09:50 AM 7/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>weekdays work for me but I don't think they'll work for Bork. Not that I'm
>speaking for her, of course.
>
>Sandra
> >
> > We should. It's only open Tuesday-Saturday so we can't go this week
> > end.  Pick a Saturday!  Are week days possible for the rest of you?
> >
> > Betty
> >
> > At 11:56 PM 7/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Oh!  That's right near me and I've never been.  Care to make it
> > a bay area
> > >wordslers event?
> > >
> > >  Sharon
> > >
> > >On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is this where you went when you were here last time?  Larry and I may
> > > visit.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.filoli.org/
> > > >
> > > > Betty
> > > >
> >

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:49:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13583
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 06:49:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECD699@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:51:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13419581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 12:57:15 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6IGvFY23084 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          12:57:15 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6IGvE460396 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          12:57:14 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEHLFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:56:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36A3F6.32581.BCE4DA@localhost>

I  only know of two non-open relationships among the gay friends I have who
are in serious relationships. So, this rings true from what I know. Seems
very tricky.

Sandra

> > >It's a little dated - but then so am I.
> >
> > >BrP
> >
> > Let me get this straight (so to speak): you've got a wonderful
> boyfriend in
> > Toronto, but you're still doing a little dating? ;-)
> >
> > Ken Miller
> > Department of Ambiguity
>
>
> only a little
>
> ;-)
>
>
> BrP
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:49:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13601
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 06:49:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0013C66F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:57:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13419603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 12:57:39 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IGvcY23132 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:57:38 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6IGvbcf003389 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:57:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020718065452.00ac5f00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020718095719.00ac7100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:57:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEHKFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

Yes. I was reading about it in the URL Boo sent.  Have you been?

Betty


At 09:50 AM 7/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>in woodside?
>
>Sch.
>
> > Let's skip it and go to Buck's.
> >
> > Betty
> >

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:51:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13605
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 06:51:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECD6BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:53:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13419686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 12:59:25 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6IGxPY23372 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          12:59:25 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6IGxO481968 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          12:59:24 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEHMFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:58:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020718095719.00ac7100@uclink.berkeley.edu>

Nope but I've heard all about it. It's a bit of a power den.

Sandra

> Yes. I was reading about it in the URL Boo sent.  Have you been?
>
> Betty
>
>
> At 09:50 AM 7/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >in woodside?
> >
> >Sch.
> >
> > > Let's skip it and go to Buck's.
> > >
> > > Betty
> > >
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:55:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13611
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 06:55:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECD769@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:57:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13420217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:03:32 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IH3WY24526 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:03:32 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11629 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:03:27 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          13:03:27 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 13:02:58 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D36A3F6.32581.BCE4DA@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D36BC7B.6410.11CB00B@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:02:51 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: summer fruit
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEHLFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

It was a joke. Even though Steve and I live 250 miles apart and only
see each other about once a month we are in a <non-open serious
relationship>.

BrP


> I  only know of two non-open relationships among the gay friends I have who
> are in serious relationships. So, this rings true from what I know. Seems
> very tricky.
>
> Sandra
>
> > > >It's a little dated - but then so am I.
> > >
> > > >BrP
> > >
> > > Let me get this straight (so to speak): you've got a wonderful
> > boyfriend in
> > > Toronto, but you're still doing a little dating? ;-)
> > >
> > > Ken Miller
> > > Department of Ambiguity
> >
> >
> > only a little
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> >
> > BrP
> >

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:55:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13619
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 06:55:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECD76A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:57:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13419374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:03:38 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IGrcY22577 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:53:38 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6IGrbUh017245 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:53:37 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207181253090.6040-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:53:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gourmet v. Gourmand
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F254VHURNJpIZMamXdn00014118@hotmail.com>

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Amy Burns Short wrote:

>It was explained to me in French, in France, that <<gourmand>> has a
>connotation of "excessive" appreciation, while <<gourmet>> did not. Perhaps
>another source would reveal this. Perhaps I don't know wtf I'm talking about
>-- but I think I do.

That's what I've always been told - in French and in English.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:56:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13634
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 06:56:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECD786@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:58:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13420288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:04:28 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IH4SY24729 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:04:28 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6IH4Qcf016865 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:04:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020718095719.00ac7100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020718100354.00ac8dd0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:04:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEHMFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

At 09:58 AM 7/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Nope but I've heard all about it. It's a bit of a power den.
>
>Sandra

Underbelly says:

             If you plan a trip to Filoli, for
             heaven's sake stop at Buck's
             Restaurant first. Or just say to hell
             with Filoli and spend all day at
             Buck's. The last time I experienced a
             place as gloriously and wantonly
             beautiful as Buck's was when I
             discovered Alviso (yes, it was me,
             there were only Indians there at the
             time) and found three Citroens
             rotting in one yard. Ineffable,
             impossible. Buck's is a work of art
             where you can eat good
             stuff--including a Filoli omelette
             made from vegetables stolen from
             the Filoli gardens. Jamis MacNiven,
             the impresario, has done good
             work. A Russian space suit dangles
             from the ceiling, the stuffed head of
             a buffalo oscillates and winks a big
             black eye, gaudy porcelain cowboy
             boots fill every niche and cranny, a
             model of the house that landed on
             the Wicked Witch of the West hangs
             prominently-- the witch plastered on
             the bottom. It is an actual model
             used in the making of The Wizard of
             Oz. Jamis has no time for fake
             kitsch. Chris Olson, an
             exceptionally capable and friendly
             barkeep, showed me a photo of
             Jamis posing with lobsters, lobster
             posing being one of Jamis'
             specialties. Jamis once tried to buy
             the body of Lenin, in 1993. A
             six-figure offer was made to Deputy
             Minister Yuri Evanchenko of the
             Russian Ministry of Cultural Affairs,
             who was intrigued but declined.
             Too bad, it would have looked regal
             at Buck's, and trust me, it would not
             have clashed. Jamis' letter and Yuri's
             response can be found in the
             hallway outside the bathrooms.

             How can you not love an eatery that
             has maps of Mount Everest on the
             bathroom walls. Ron Brunson, the
             general manager, and Marina (last
             name?) are part of the coterie of
             good people that work at Buck's.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:58:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13638
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 06:58:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECD7B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:01:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13419572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:07:09 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IGv9Y23058 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:57:09 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6IGv8Uh018454 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:57:08 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207181255200.6040-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:57:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of Unhappy with a Situation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36D5EC.9B9B4117@valstar.net>

I vote for a goat. But where will N. leave her vehicle? If she parks it
outside, the goat will walk on it.

That will be okay, of course. It will be almost time for a new vehicle by
then. In fact, that's an ideal arrangement. The grass will be taken care
of, and the goat's presence will guarantee a new vehicle.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:59:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13647
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 06:59:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013C794@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:07:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13420468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:07:27 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IH7RY25379 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:07:27 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id KAA53430 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          10:07:26 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207180927140.49890-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:07:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020718080526.00a1dc50@uclink.berkeley.edu>

I love hotsprings, and I've visited quite a few, both commercial and
undeveloped, and I can honestly say that the bathouses at Tassajara are
the best I've been to.  But no, that's not the reason it's my favorite
place on earth, so far.

Getting high from doing a few rounds of bathhouse/sauna/chilly river is
certainly part of the attraction.  But there's also the wonderous food,
and the interesting people you meet in the family style dining hall, who
are also probably in their favorite place on earth, (which does a lot to
make a person likable).  I also enjoy the simple but so comfortable, so
clean cabin right on the river, without electricity.

Then there are the blurry cold mornings of being awoken at 5am by the monk
whose job it is the walk the trails between the cabin clanking a
schoolbell to invite the sleepers to sit zazen. Early morning hours have
always seemed otherworldly to me, but never so much as then with
blackrobed monks walking slowly on the path, bowing to their fellow monks
as they pass, students in a silent huddle around the pot of hot water
quickly brewing cups of coffee to sustain them for the next hour of
stillness that can too often (in my case at least) lull the unweary sitter
to sleep. (If I'd go to bed at 9am the way the students and monks do it'd
be better for me, but the bathouse doesn't close until 10:30) The pattern
of drumsbeats and deep belltones keep time for those who know how to
interpret them.  I don't, but I respond to them anyway, from somewhere
else.

The atmosphere of Tassajara draws me back.  I long to experience again
that combination of delicious healthy food, cleanliness, contented people,
pleasure of all the senses, and above all - serenity.

Sharon

 On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

> What part is your favorite?  The bathhouses?
>
> Betty
>
> At 07:45 AM 7/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Weekdays are possible and weekends as well.  This next week I'm going to
> >be at Tassajara (my favorite place on earth, so far).  What about week
> >after next?
> >
> >Sharon
> >
> >On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
> >
> > > We should. It's only open Tuesday-Saturday so we can't go this week
> > > end.  Pick a Saturday!  Are week days possible for the rest of you?
> > >
> > > Betty
> > >
> > > At 11:56 PM 7/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >Oh!  That's right near me and I've never been.  Care to make it a bay area
> > > >wordslers event?
> > > >
> > > >  Sharon
> > > >
> > > >On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Is this where you went when you were here last time?  Larry and I may
> > > > visit.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.filoli.org/
> > > > >
> > > > > Betty
> > > > >
> > >
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 07:04:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13701
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 07:04:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECD814@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:07:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13420735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:13:01 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IHD0Y26120 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:13:00 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id UAA20352 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:12:59
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA20267 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,
          18 Jul 2002 20:12:58 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <6A03ADE2.175FF25B.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D36F6D7.95BDC5BF@akad.ee>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:11:51 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

jbh wrote:

> "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM> wrote:
>
> >> >
> >> >Clyde, shouldn't that be: "Who is Steinbeck?
> >>
> >>Alex Trebek
> >
> >Somehow, I doubt that Kristin would know that reference (at least, for the
> >sake of Estonian culture, I hope so).

No, I do not. Maybe I could not hope I'd find the connection easily and therefore I didn't start searching for it.

> >
> hopefully, you're correct.
>
> jbh

Your both's hopefulness makes me curious and gives the feeling that I might have a good chuckle or a burst of giggle if I found out about it. I will not delete
these msgs before I'm back from the trip.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 07:08:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13730
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 07:08:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0013C85B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:16:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13420899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:16:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IHGZY26566 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:16:35 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A7A21804C; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:16:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718171634.A7A21804C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:16:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36F6D7.95BDC5BF@akad.ee> from Kristin Sarv at "Jul 18,
              2002  8:11:51 pm"

Kristin Sarv said:
> jbh wrote:
>
> > "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM> wrote:
> >
> > >> >
> > >> >Clyde, shouldn't that be: "Who is Steinbeck?
> > >>
> > >>Alex Trebek
> > >
> > >Somehow, I doubt that Kristin would know that reference (at least, for the
> > >sake of Estonian culture, I hope so).
>
> No, I do not. Maybe I could not hope I'd find the connection easily and therefore I didn't start searching for it.
>
> > >
> > hopefully, you're correct.
> >
> > jbh
>
> Your both's hopefulness makes me curious and gives the feeling that I might have a good chuckle or a burst of giggle if I found out about it. I will not delete
> these msgs before I'm back from the trip.

They are talking about an American game show called "Jeopardy". The
host is Alex Trebek.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 07:14:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13775
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 07:14:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECD91A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:16:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13421549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:22:33 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IHMWY28024 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:22:33 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id UAA22741 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:22:32
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA22657 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,
          18 Jul 2002 20:22:30 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020718171634.A7A21804C@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D36F913.D1E7DDC3@akad.ee>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:21:23 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> an American game show called "Jeopardy". The
> host is Alex Trebek.

I see,

is all I can say (even though I cannot see anything :)

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 07:15:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13786
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 07:15:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECD941@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:18:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13421656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:24:04 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IHO4Y28218 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:24:04 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19820 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:24:03 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          13:24:03 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 13:23:40 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D36F6D7.95BDC5BF@akad.ee> from Kristin Sarv at "Jul 18,
            2002  8:11:51 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D36C15B.30841.9B548@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:23:39 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718171634.A7A21804C@yellow.rahul.net>

Who was the host of the original "Jeopardy!" ?   I can picture his
face and remember his voice, but I can't think of his name (Art
something?).  I liked him better than Trebek (even if Trebek is
Canadian).

BrP



> They are talking about an American game show called "Jeopardy". The
> host is Alex Trebek.
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 07:19:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13807
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 07:19:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013C99E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:27:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13422043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:27:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IHRsY29002 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:27:54 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5D0787D3B; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:27:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718172753.5D0787D3B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:27:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36C15B.30841.9B548@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              18, 2002  1:23:39 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> Who was the host of the original "Jeopardy!" ?   I can picture his
> face and remember his voice, but I can't think of his name (Art
> something?).  I liked him better than Trebek (even if Trebek is
> Canadian).

I've only known Alex.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 07:22:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13828
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 07:22:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013C9DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:30:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13422203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:30:33 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IHUXY29318 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:30:33 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22394 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:30:31 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          13:30:32 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 13:30:22 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D36C2EB.30781.FD150@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:30:20 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36F6D7.95BDC5BF@akad.ee>

One of the things I enjoy about living with a person whose first
language is not English is that he creates phrases that express an
idea better than a standard or typical phrase of a native speaker
would.
Kristin - thank you for "burst of giggle"

BrP


>
>  I might have a good chuckle or a burst of giggle
>
> Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 07:25:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13850
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 07:25:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECDA53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:27:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13422412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:33:26 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IHXQY29747 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:33:26 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust56.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.58]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005338317@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:33:14 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020718171634.A7A21804C@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D36FC0E.C614695E@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:34:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> They are talking about an American game show called "Jeopardy". The

But I don't get the Steinbeck association. How do we get from Steinbeck
to Trebek, and having done that, why do we laugh?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 07:26:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13855
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 07:26:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013CA7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:35:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13422558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:35:01 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IHZ1Y30111 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:35:01 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust56.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.58]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005338348@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:34:59 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020718172753.5D0787D3B@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D36FC78.CA7BCDDA@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:35:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> I've only known Alex.

Then you missed Art Fleming, who was a far, far better host, less full
of himself. This was when Jeopardy was on in the daytime in theh '70s.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 07:28:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13860
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 07:28:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECDAA3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:31:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13422726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:36:46 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IHajY30532 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:36:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A16888279; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:36:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718173643.A16888279@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:36:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36FC0E.C614695E@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 18,
              2002  1:34: 6 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > They are talking about an American game show called "Jeopardy". The
>
> But I don't get the Steinbeck association. How do we get from Steinbeck
> to Trebek, and having done that, why do we laugh?

I think the problem is that Clyde answered Kristin's question (say
"Kristin's question" five times fast!) so directly. Someone said he
should have phrased the answer as a question, like have to do on
"Jeopardy", which is how Trebek got in there...

And we laugh because of the juxtaposition.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 07:29:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13864
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 07:29:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECDABE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:32:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13422813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:37:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IHbwY30693 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:37:58 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 33C8B7F6F; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 10:37:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718173758.33C8B7F6F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:37:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36FC78.CA7BCDDA@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 18,
              2002  1:35:52 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Then you missed Art Fleming, who was a far, far better host, less full
> of himself. This was when Jeopardy was on in the daytime in theh '70s.

I wasn't here.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 07:43:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13919
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 07:43:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013CC41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:51:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13423987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:51:50 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IHpnY00761 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:51:50 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-59.panax.com [63.163.41.59])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IHpmj21922 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:51:48 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D36FC0E.C614695E@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718133846.00b68000@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:39:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718173643.A16888279@yellow.rahul.net>

At 10:36 AM 7/18/2002 -0700, karen wrote:

>And we laugh because of the juxtaposition.

...and that we may not cry...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 07:43:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13923
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 07:43:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECDC5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:46:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13423993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 13:51:51 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IHppY00772 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:51:51 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-59.panax.com [63.163.41.59])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IHpoj21932 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:51:50 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020718171634.A7A21804C@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718133939.00b67ab8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:51:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36F913.D1E7DDC3@akad.ee>

At 08:21 PM 7/18/2002 +0300, kristin wrote:
>I see,
>
>is all I can say (even though I cannot see anything :)

As others have noted, Jeopardy is a game show on U.S. television.  As with
most such shows, people are placed in competition and must answer questions
in various subject areas.  Every game show has some "gimmick," some novel
thing that (the writers/producers hope) sets that show apart from all
others.  In the case of Jeopardy, the "gimmick" is that the contestants are
given a factual answer and they must provide the appropriate
question.  Example:  Answer--the Magna Carta was signed here.  Appropriate
question (as a contestant's answer)--What is Runnymede?  And so forth.

As I think alyce noted, at one time it was a rather low-key, relaxed game
show, broadcast during the day. Then it went big-time, being shown in the
evening, with considerably more flashiness and with a host (the estimable
Mr. Trebek) who is younger and more "show business."

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 07:54:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13985
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 07:54:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECDDBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:57:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13425001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 14:03:09 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6II39Y03077 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:03:09 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04507 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:03:08 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          14:03:09 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 14:02:47 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D36CA81.23136.2D74C1@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:02:42 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36FC78.CA7BCDDA@valstar.net>

Fleming!!
Thank you alyce

BrP

>
> Then you missed Art Fleming, who was a far, far better host, less full
> of himself. This was when Jeopardy was on in the daytime in theh '70s.
>
> alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 07:55:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13995
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 07:55:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECDDC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:57:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13425037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 14:03:38 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f115.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.115]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6II3bY03155 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:03:38 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          18 Jul 2002 11:03:32 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 18:03:32 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2002 18:03:32.0642 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[6DBCE820:01C22E85]
Message-ID:  <F115Cbfd2cDklFtDeGu00019496@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:03:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>wow. how nice to feel that safe with someone.

Is it common that one feels endangered while cuddling with a boyfriend?

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 07:55:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14007
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 07:55:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013CDBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:03:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13425061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 14:03:56 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f112.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.112]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6II3tY03235 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:03:56 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          18 Jul 2002 11:03:50 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu,
          18 Jul 2002 18:03:49 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2002 18:03:50.0435 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[7857E730:01C22E85]
Message-ID:  <F112FvltAgRZ8Si9Hik00015891@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:03:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: The radio sez:
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I most recently read about Jimmy Bradley as being a regular at a club in
Lower Manhattan which was recently shot up by a crazy anti-Caucasian gunman.

Marie
   "It's 10:00. Do you know where your children are?"


>From: Jim Bradley <fna104@URIACC.URI.EDU>
>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: The radio sez:
>Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:43:51 -0400
>
> >At 11:03 AM 7/18/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >> >The news is that, since the dot.com bubble has burst, "techies" are no
> >> >longer deemed desirable as love objects--women now prefer to date cops
> >> >and firemen.
> >>
> >>The current (July 02) issue of BIZAAR (sp?) says that women love chefs,
> >>and includes a picture of my son and 4 others.
> >>
> >>It goes on to say that women who date chefs always play second fiddle
> >>to their restaurants.
> >
> >I love my chef!
> >
> >Is there an on-line version of Bizaar?
>
>http://www.harpersbazaar.com/
>
>but it doesn't seem to have the right issue, or an easy way to navigate
>to it.
>
>/Jim
>
> >
> >Betty




Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 08:00:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14047
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 08:00:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013CE4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:08:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13425538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 14:08:13 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6II8CY04451 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:08:13 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc56 ([204.127.198.45]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020718180807.VPAI24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:08:07 +0000
Received: from [63.110.228.250] by rwcrwbc56; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:08:04 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020718180807.VPAI24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:08:04 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> And here's what they say about 'gourmand'.
> "NOUN:1. A lover of good food. 2. A gluttonous eater. See Usage Note at
> gourmet. ETYMOLOGY:Middle English gourmant, glutton, from Old French
> gormant."
>
> So, whatever. You'll always be a gourmand (in sense 1) to me.
>
> Karen

And that's the sense in which I meant it. I wasn't calling you
a glutton, Clyde. :)

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 08:01:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14056
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 08:01:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECDE63@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:03:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13425679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 14:09:21 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6II9KY04779 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:09:20 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id VAA03116 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:09:19
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA03033 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,
          18 Jul 2002 21:09:14 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F214WcB2KWFYobPJLTq00004ab1@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020710143114.03402660@victoria.nb.no>
            <3D345267.73D03D23@akad.ee> <3D34954C.F0C51A6A@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D370407.EC524255@akad.ee>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:08:07 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> You have a <way with words>, Kristin.

Well, puns from childhood on, I guess, what else. But it's nice to read it
from your message.

> But most of the ESL/EFL students my students will be
> teaching aren't likely to be at the level of switching into "English
> channel."

For many people language, whether their native one or foreign, is not
important in itself, I guess. They often use it just as a tool. Aamf, I do
not reproach them. People are different. Not that one shouldn't try to be
correct. But to many people it even would not occur that one might enjoy the
rhythm or sound, or grammar, of a language.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 08:06:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14084
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 08:06:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0013CEF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:14:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13426065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 14:14:45 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IIEjY05487 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:14:45 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08374 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:14:32 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          14:14:32 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 14:14:03 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D36CD28.9724.37D11F@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:14:01 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: pointless thread
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F115Cbfd2cDklFtDeGu00019496@hotmail.com>

I can only answer for myself.  Endangered is not the opposite of
safe for me.  By safe I mean totally relaxed, unjudged,
uninspected, unmasked - a space where I can be as completely
myself as if I were completely alone.  I rarely feel particularly
endangered in any situations in my life - but there is always a part
of me that is conscious of how I will be perceived when I am around
others. That part can sleep when I'm with Steve.  He knows me
more deeply than I could ever pretend, so any mask would be
pointless.
It's a very nice feeling.

BrP


> Is it common that one feels endangered while cuddling with a boyfriend?
>
> -aht
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 08:08:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14107
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 08:08:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0013CF1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:16:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13426280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 14:16:15 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IIGEY06069 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:16:14 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id VAA04824 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:16:13
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA04739 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,
          18 Jul 2002 21:16:09 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D36C2EB.30781.FD150@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3705A6.D5906518@akad.ee>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:15:02 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:

> a person whose first
> language is not English is that he creates phrases that express an
> idea better than a standard or typical phrase of a native speaker
> would.
> Kristin - thank you for "burst of giggle"

BYH :)

Aamf, although 'burst of laughter' has its literal equivalent in
Estonian, 'burst of giggle' doesn't. Well, I even do not know just now
how I'd expressed it if I had had to write the answer in Estonian. So,
it is a phrase of a non-native speaker who tried to express her idea
best.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 08:12:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14120
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 08:12:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECDF6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:14:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13426566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 14:20:29 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IIKTY06756 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:20:29 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10288 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:20:29 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          14:20:29 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 14:20:05 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D36CE8C.21374.3D3FBC@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:19:57 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D370407.EC524255@akad.ee>

They are the truly impoverished.  Language is such a wonderful
dance of meaning and sound and rhythm and nuance.  I don't like
being around people for whom this is not true.  In some ways I
think I fundamentally do not trust them.

BrP



> correct. But to many people it even would not occur that one might enjoy the
> rhythm or sound, or grammar, of a language.
>
> Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 08:14:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14124
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 08:14:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECDFA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:16:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13426713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 14:22:30 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IIMTY07031 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:22:29 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10829 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:22:28 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          14:22:28 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 14:22:07 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D36CF0B.17040.3F3147@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:22:04 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3705A6.D5906518@akad.ee>

> Aamf, although 'burst of laughter' has its literal equivalent in
> Estonian, 'burst of giggle' doesn't. Well, I even do not know just now
> how I'd expressed it if I had had to write the answer in Estonian. So,
> it is a phrase of a non-native speaker who tried to express her idea
> best.
>
> Kristin

and succeeded beautifully

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 08:15:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14137
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 08:15:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013CFD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:23:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13426758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 14:23:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IINfY07145 for
          <words-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:23:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BBDB57EB2; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 11:23:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718182340.BBDB57EB2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:23:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      What I Learned Today
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

As near as I can tell, the Bloomsberries talked like the people on
"Friends". Is that scary, or what?!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 08:23:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14203
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 08:23:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013D0AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:31:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13427485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 14:31:31 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IIUxY08599 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:30:59 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id VAA07431 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:30:58
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA07348 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,
          18 Jul 2002 21:30:57 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020718171634.A7A21804C@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020718133939.00b67ab8@mail.panax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D37091E.585D54D7@akad.ee>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:29:50 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:

>  In the case of Jeopardy, the "gimmick" is that the contestants are
> given a factual answer and they must provide the appropriate
> question.  Example:  Answer--the Magna Carta was signed here.  Appropriate
> question (as a contestant's answer)--What is Runnymede?  And so forth.

Oh, now I know. 'Jeopardy' seemed familiar to me as a name, and now I know why.
One of Estonian TV channels has bought the idea of the game, and it was/is(?)
on  under a different name.

This requirement that one must answer with a question to the "answer" often
seemed silly to me. Once the answer given was something like, "his grandfather
lived in [a town name] in Estonia where he worked as a doctor," etc.: several
things about the grandfather. Aamf, I happened to know that it was Hermann
Hesse's grandfather, and for those who did not know it might have been
interesting to learn the facts, but when somebody asks, who H.Hesse is, it
seems just insane to give the answer, starting with "his grandfather used to
live..."

Anyway, I got to know the connection.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 08:30:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14237
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 08:30:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013D15E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:38:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13428046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 14:38:30 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IIc6Y09847 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:38:06 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id VAA08583 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:38:05
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA08500 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,
          18 Jul 2002 21:38:04 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D36CE8C.21374.3D3FBC@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D370AC9.62B909B0@akad.ee>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:36:57 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:

> They are the truly impoverished.  Language is such a wonderful
> dance of meaning and sound and rhythm and nuance.

Oh, we mustn't forget that there are also people who are tone-deaf. True, many of
them enjoy listening to music. So, the latter may be only half-impoverished -- I
tend to feel pity for tone-deaf people, but find nothing reproachful about them.

> I don't like
> being around people for whom this is not true.

This may be true about me, too.

>  In some ways I
> think I fundamentally do not trust them.

But I wouldn't go so far.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 08:40:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14333
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 08:40:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECE213@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:42:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13428842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 14:48:23 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IImEt11203 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:48:14 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust56.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.58]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005340301@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 14:48:03 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D370D94.5AA59BBC@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:48:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      What I learned today on the booklists
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Horatio Alger liked little boys, just like the ones he wrote about.
Indeed, as a minister he was stripped of his pulpit & slipped away for
fear of a lynch mob when his 'unnatural familiarity with boys' was found
out.

This is so funny to me, because the Christian right home schoolers are
scrambling after Horatio ALger books as wholesome reading for their
little ones.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 09:00:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14415
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 09:00:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECE48A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:03:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13430870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 15:08:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IJ8dt15194 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:08:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D7D587F2E; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 12:08:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718190838.D7D587F2E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:08:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36CE8C.21374.3D3FBC@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              18, 2002  2:19:57 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> They are the truly impoverished.  Language is such a wonderful
> dance of meaning and sound and rhythm and nuance.  I don't like
> being around people for whom this is not true.  In some ways I
> think I fundamentally do not trust them.

I think I agree with your assessment, though I'm not sure what's
behind the lack of trust thing. I guess that we have so little common
ground.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 09:03:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14419
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 09:03:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECE4FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:06:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13431230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 15:11:55 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IJBtt16119 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:11:55 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00832 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:11:54 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          15:11:54 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 15:11:40 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D36CE8C.21374.3D3FBC@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul   
            18, 2002  2:19:57 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D36DAA9.27278.6C93D8@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:11:38 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718190838.D7D587F2E@yellow.rahul.net>

Perhaps I've had too many bad experiences with people who speak
in ambiguities.  I like to know that there is at least some care
taken in expressing ones ideas/feelings accurately.

BrP


>
> I think I agree with your assessment, though I'm not sure what's
> behind the lack of trust thing. I guess that we have so little common
> ground.
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 09:17:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14480
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 09:16:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013D668@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:25:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13432476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 15:25:11 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IJPBt19051 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:25:11 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO00008D;
          18 Jul 02 15:24:47 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 18 Jul 02
          15:24:34 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG00008C; 18 Jul 02 15:24:25 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <20020718190838.D7D587F2E@yellow.rahul.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D36DDA8.21694.D42CACD9@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:24:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36DAA9.27278.6C93D8@localhost>

On Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 15:11, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

> Perhaps I've had too many bad experiences with people who speak
> in ambiguities.  I like to know that there is at least some care
> taken in expressing ones ideas/feelings accurately.

> > I think I agree with your assessment, though I'm not sure what's
> > behind the lack of trust thing. I guess that we have so little
> > common ground.
> >
> > Karen

But playing with ambiguities is one of the very joys of a familiarity
with and love of language. At least for some of us -- I remember with
horror my Intro to Linguistics prof who thought that ambiguity in
language was of little importance or interest.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 09:27:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14529
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 09:27:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECE790@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:29:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13433574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 15:35:23 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IJZNt21538 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:35:23 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10018 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:34:00 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02
          15:34:00 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 18 Jul 02 15:33:34 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D36DAA9.27278.6C93D8@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D36DFCB.1453.80A2BE@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:33:32 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: The pledge guy
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D36DDA8.21694.D42CACD9@localhost>

I agree - if the ambiguity is intentional. I'm talking about unintended
ambiguity because of lack of understanding of things like grammar
and vocabulary.

BrP


>
> But playing with ambiguities is one of the very joys of a familiarity
> with and love of language. At least for some of us -- I remember with
> horror my Intro to Linguistics prof who thought that ambiguity in
> language was of little importance or interest.
>
> Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 09:30:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14550
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 09:30:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECE811@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:33:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13433971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 15:39:02 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IJd2t22509 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:39:02 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id MAA42013 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          12:39:01 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207181235460.49890-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:39:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEHMFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

I used to go there occasionally on weekend mornings when I lived on King's
Mountain and Woodside was the nearest town.  It's fine, fun decor, good
menu, a little over-priced, as  you'd expect.  But I think you have to be
more connected than I am to even know that it's a "power den." To me, they
just look like people having lunch.  But I'm the one who was in line at
whole foods behind Steve Jobs and didn't know it until I asked the bagger
why he was laughing and he told me that was Steve Jobs and he insists on
bagging his own groceries and he always does it wrong.

 Sharon

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, S Hess wrote:

> Nope but I've heard all about it. It's a bit of a power den.
>
> Sandra
>
> > Yes. I was reading about it in the URL Boo sent.  Have you been?
> >
> > Betty
> >
> >
> > At 09:50 AM 7/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >in woodside?
> > >
> > >Sch.
> > >
> > > > Let's skip it and go to Buck's.
> > > >
> > > > Betty
> > > >
> >
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 09:34:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14554
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 09:34:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECE84D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:36:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13434184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 15:42:15 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IJgFt23063 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:42:15 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020718194209.YVGL26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:42:09 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718115333.0279fd50@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:36:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Collision
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B95C2A98.F615%peterlevy@email.com>

Peter Levy writes,

>Thanks for the info, Pete.

You're welcome!  Thanks for looking it up. :)

To complete the circle, that entry was orignally written as a post here,
responding to a question from Bethany.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 09:43:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14609
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 09:43:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013D93F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:51:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13435203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 15:51:21 -0400
Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IJpKt25435 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:51:21 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.161] ([208.138.31.74]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with
          ESMTP id <20020718184925.PQZC15769.mail@[208.138.31.74]> for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:49:25 -0400
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g6IJpLt25436
Message-ID:  <B95C8663.F6AD%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:51:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Reinstating an old usage?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I read a Newsweek article the other day, at my parents' home, in which the
writer, Steven Levy, wrote about a new royalty payment system which was
threatening the existence of small webcasters. In the article, he referred
to -- let me google to see if I find it...

Yup here it is, at <http://www.msnbc.com/news/777023.asp>, and the relevant
section is:

"Instead of instating the kind of royalty already paid to songwriters by
both broadcast and Web radio‹about 3 percent of revenues‹the tariff on
digital music is based on the number of listeners."

It's the use of "instating" that jerked me. I don't think I've ever seen
that usage before. Have you guys?

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 09:52:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14672
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 09:52:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECEA58@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:54:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13436097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 16:00:24 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IK0Nt27331 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:00:23 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6IK0Mf09957 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:00:22 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207181413360.6973-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:00:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEHJFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, S Hess wrote:

> weekdays work for me but I don't think they'll work for Bork. Not that I'm
> speaking for her, of course.

I've been to Filoli.  Plus, Betty rendered me chopped liver in her initial
invitation.

But I'm not bitter!  I just don't want to travel and I didn't like Filoli
enough to repeat the visit.  I'm not sure why I was disappointed.  I guess
I think they're not as lushly interesting as the ones in Victoria, or as
exotically tropical as the ones in Florida (Fairchild Gardens, near where
my ma lives).  Maybe I'm an insensitive dolt and a brutish knownothing.

There are some smallish other gardens somewhere in the Bay Area . . . I
can't remember where.  They were pretty one autumn.  I wish I could
remember.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 10:07:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14752
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 10:07:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECEC09@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:10:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13437431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 16:15:42 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6IKFgt30365 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          16:15:42 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KFA09479; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:15:39 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KPA09224; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:15:36 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D3694E7.27949.1EF9D7@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:13:59 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Reinstating an old usage?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B95C8663.F6AD%peterlevy@email.com>

On 18 Jul 2002 at 14:51, Peter Levy wrote:

> It's the use of "instating" that jerked me. I don't think I've ever seen
> that usage before. Have you guys?

Seems ordinary to me. Instate in the sense of install or establish, rather than
one of the obsolete uses you'll find in the dictionary. I'm not so sure it's the
word I would have chosen to use, though.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 10:48:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14925
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 10:48:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0013E0AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:56:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13441015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 16:56:21 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IKuLt05557 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:56:21 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZG0097RQ5WSO@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:56:20 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D370D94.5AA59BBC@valstar.net>
Message-ID:  <3D372B17.8060004@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:54:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What I learned today on the booklists
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Horatio Alger liked little boys, just like the ones he wrote about.
> Indeed, as a minister he was stripped of his pulpit & slipped away for
> fear of a lynch mob when his 'unnatural familiarity with boys' was found
> out.
>
> This is so funny to me, because the Christian right home schoolers are
> scrambling after Horatio ALger books as wholesome reading for their
> little ones.
>


        And Horatio Alger is even a question on the Praxis II --
thereby implying that knowing about his novels is required
to be an English teacher.





--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 11:36:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15181
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 11:36:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECF5A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:38:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13445169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 17:44:14 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ILiEt12430 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:44:14 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZG009FBSDPDO@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:44:14 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F54Sw5ZX4IayYxACN5l0000efff@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D373650.2040506@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:42:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

What can I say?  Rashmi has spoken!

Rashmi Murthy wrote:

> 'kay, it's official - NamibiaFest 2004. This will give everyone
> enough time to line up vacation time and travel money.
>
> (Sorry for horning in on your trip, Rita, but this thread
> is making me very gelous. I *have* to go.)
>
> -rashmi
>
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: English Language Discussion Group
>>> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rita Chapman
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 2:50 PM
>>> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>> Subject: Re: namibia
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter Kaminski wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Rita Chapman writes,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> PBS had a show last night, and now I want to go to Namibia
>>>>> for vacation :).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Johanne spent a summer there back in the '80s, and loved it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Really?  That's great.  I can't get any of the usual web
>>> sites to tell me how much airfare to the country would be.
>>> But I'm going to save up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Very expensive on Expedia.
>>
>> $2,719.84     Choose and continue
>> 10:29 AM Depart St. Louis (STL)
>> Arrive Windhoek (WDH) 8:10 PM +1 day  Tue 6-Aug
>> 27hr 41mn    American Airlines 3140
>>   Delta 7004 / 7057
>> Connect in New York (JFK), Johannesburg (JNB)
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --------
>>
>> 2:00 PM Depart Windhoek (ERS)
>> Arrive St. Louis (STL) 12:17 PM +1 day  Wed 28-Aug
>> 28hr 17mn    South African Airways 8715
>>   Delta 7007 / 206
>> Connect in Cape Town (CPT), Atlanta (ATL)
>> Total stops: 3
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Above is just playing around. I am sure you could do it much cheaper.
>>
>
>
> Wow.  That is expensive.  I bet I could do better using
> Lufthanser (sp?) since Namibia is a popular German tourist
> spot.  28 hours of travel... I'd have to stay for a few
> weeks at least to make that worth it.
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 11:42:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15210
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 11:42:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECF5F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:45:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13445404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 17:50:54 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ILost13250 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:50:54 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-59.panax.com [63.163.41.59])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ILolj05302; Thu,
          18 Jul 2002 17:50:48 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718174639.00b4a290@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:50:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      mushroom pics
Comments: To: espen.ore@nb.no
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

These were scanned from slides by the local photoshop.  I'm not
particularly happy with the color rendition of the reds.  Perhaps I would
have been better off simply having the scans read onto disk or CD, rather
than having prints made (which we then scanned).  One lives and learns, I
suppose.

clyde

www.imagestation.com.album/pictures.html?id=4291602585

If the url simply dumps you in my Imagestation page, select the "acadian
fungi" album.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 12:29:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15466
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 12:29:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013E9EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:37:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13448364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 18:37:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IMbPt19588 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:37:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1B0278277; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 15:37:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718223725.1B0278277@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:37:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: mushroom pics
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718174639.00b4a290@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 18, 2002  5:50:36 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> These were scanned from slides by the local photoshop.  I'm not
> particularly happy with the color rendition of the reds.  Perhaps I would
> have been better off simply having the scans read onto disk or CD, rather
> than having prints made (which we then scanned).  One lives and learns, I
> suppose.
>
> clyde
>
> www.imagestation.com.album/pictures.html?id=4291602585
>
> If the url simply dumps you in my Imagestation page, select the "acadian
> fungi" album.

Is that supposed to be a period after the com and before the album?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 12:52:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15602
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 12:52:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013EB84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:00:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13449319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 19:00:34 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IN0Yt21964 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:00:34 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-59.panax.com [63.163.41.59])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IN0Xj17827 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:00:33 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020718174639.00b4a290@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718185839.00b4f270@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:59:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: mushroom pics
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718223725.1B0278277@yellow.rahul.net>

At 03:37 PM 7/18/2002 -0700, karen wrote:

>Is that supposed to be a period after the com and before the album?

I think so, but I'll go in through the back door and check.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 12:53:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15609
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 12:53:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECFA6E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:55:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13449397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 19:01:16 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IN1Gt22085 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:01:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D35EB7F34; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 16:01:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718230115.D35EB7F34@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:01:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: mushroom pics
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718185839.00b4f270@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 18, 2002  6:59:28 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> At 03:37 PM 7/18/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
> >Is that supposed to be a period after the com and before the album?
>
> I think so, but I'll go in through the back door and check.

I can't get to it, if so.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 12:54:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15615
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 12:54:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECFA79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:56:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13449430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 19:02:09 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IN29t22176 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:02:09 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-59.panax.com [63.163.41.59])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6IN27j18072 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:02:07 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718190045.00b5d060@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:02:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      mushroom pics
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Whoops!  Mea culpa.

It should be com/album.

Sorry.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 13:02:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15686
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 13:02:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECFABF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:04:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13449629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 19:10:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6INAGt22727 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:10:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F2B40818E; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 16:10:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718231015.F2B40818E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:10:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: mushroom pics
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718190045.00b5d060@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 18, 2002  7: 2: 5 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> Whoops!  Mea culpa.
>
> It should be com/album.
>
> Sorry.

Got it.

I think you're right about the way you scanned them in.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 13:07:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15734
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 13:07:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECFB01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:09:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13449888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 19:15:29 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6INFSt23397 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:15:28 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 203988015; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 16:15:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020718231528.203988015@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:15:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      I give
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I'm watching the movie "Boesman and Lena", based on a Fugard
play. It's a play about non-white life in South Africa, like most of
Fugard's stuff that I've seen.

Anyway. IMDB says "If you like this movie, you might also like Forrest
Gump."

Why, for god's sake???

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 13:32:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15866
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 13:32:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECFBDC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:34:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13450725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 19:40:18 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6INeIt25859 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:40:18 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6INeHQ00799 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          18:40:17 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <3D370D94.5AA59BBC@valstar.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <002e01c22eb4$adaa3800$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:41:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: What I learned today on the booklists
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Horatio Alger liked little boys, just like the ones he wrote about.
> Indeed, as a minister he was stripped of his pulpit & slipped away for
> fear of a lynch mob when his 'unnatural familiarity with boys' was
found
> out.
>
> This is so funny to me, because the Christian right home schoolers are
> scrambling after Horatio ALger books as wholesome reading for their
> little ones.
>
> alyce

It is funny and it's new to me.  I once owned
a small collection of HA books but eventually
sold them.  When I was a kid living in the
country and nowhere near a library  I used
to walk to all the neighbor's farms and ask if
they had any books.  Among the books I
borrowed were several HA books.  Some of
the people said just to keep them.  Those
good people would be quite amazed to learn
the personal history of the author, I'm sure.

                    - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 14:24:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16127
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 14:24:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013F52F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:32:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13453227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 20:32:11 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J0WAt00472 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:32:10 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020719003205.KQGJ6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:32:05 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGEELHGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:34:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Seaweed salad?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718020914.714C680CC@yellow.rahul.net>

> > Wait, I do know daikon, but that's only because I've seen
> Natalie chopping
> > it and have eaten it, too.
>
> Is it your favorite Japanese vegetable?
>
> Karen

No, I think I liked the seaweed better. The daikon was rather blah, as I
recall.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 14:27:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16149
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 14:27:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECFE51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:29:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13453301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 20:35:13 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J0ZDt00721 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:35:13 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020719003508.KUVC6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:35:08 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKELHGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:37:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020717193636.00ab3cd0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> > I think I put way more cheese in than Judith does.
>
> You did it *just* right.
>
> Betty

Thanks! I'd like to say making The Dish was a lot of work, but it's a really
easy recipe. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 14:28:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16154
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 14:28:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECFE57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:30:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13453314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 20:36:08 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J0a7t00789 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:36:08 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-59.panax.com [63.163.41.59])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6INsZj27750 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:54:36 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020718190045.00b5d060@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718195005.00b641f8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:53:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: mushroom pics
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718231015.F2B40818E@yellow.rahul.net>

At 04:10 PM 7/18/2002 -0700, karen wrote:

>I think you're right about the way you scanned them in.

Yeah.  I'm not terribly pleased.  ONe of these days, I must try to catch up
with the technology.

At least, I found the 35mm slides, which I thought had been lost.  There
are a couple of people here who are working on a book tentatively titled
someting like "the small treasures of acadia."  One or two of my slides may
be of sufficient quality to be included.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 14:34:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16184
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 14:34:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013F5EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:42:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13453529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 20:42:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J0grt01338 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:42:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D06D58185; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 17:42:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719004252.D06D58185@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:42:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Seaweed salad?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGEELHGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 18, 2002  8:34:47 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> > > Wait, I do know daikon, but that's only because I've seen
> > Natalie chopping
> > > it and have eaten it, too.
> >
> > Is it your favorite Japanese vegetable?
> >
> > Karen
>
> No, I think I liked the seaweed better. The daikon was rather blah, as I
> recall.

I bought some in memoriam of Natalie. I think I forgot about the
seaweed salad--I'll have to shove that in somewhere.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 14:36:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16191
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 14:36:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0013F60C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:44:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13453618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 20:44:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J0iUt01592 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:44:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AFDEC8214; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 17:44:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719004429.AFDEC8214@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:44:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: mushroom pics
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718195005.00b641f8@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 18, 2002  7:53:56 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> At 04:10 PM 7/18/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
>
> >I think you're right about the way you scanned them in.
>
> Yeah.  I'm not terribly pleased.  ONe of these days, I must try to catch up
> with the technology.

I should say that the composition of the photographs is, as usual,
superb.:) But catching up to the technology would be a good thing.

> At least, I found the 35mm slides, which I thought had been lost.  There
> are a couple of people here who are working on a book tentatively titled
> someting like "the small treasures of acadia."  One or two of my slides may
> be of sufficient quality to be included.

Kewl. I hope so.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 14:55:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16292
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 14:55:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013F875@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:03:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13454270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 21:02:22 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J12Mt03763 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:02:22 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZH00DBM1JY10@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:02:22 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020717172342.153D28091@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D3764C1.7050205@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:00:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Karen Kay said:
>
>>Rita Chapman said:
>>
>>>Yes. Both dressy and casual.  Kohl's really caters to little
>>>old ladies.
>>>
>>Yes, they do.
>>
>>Hm. Well, next time I go to Home Depot, I'll look at their clothes.
>>
>
> (They are next door to each other.)
>


I'm glad you clarified that.  I thought my mind was going again.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 14:56:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16297
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 14:56:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECFF74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:59:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13454332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 21:04:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J14rt03930 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:04:54 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 358E2820C; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 18:04:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719010453.358E2820C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:04:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3764C1.7050205@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 18,
              2002  8: 0:49 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Karen Kay said:
> >
> >>Rita Chapman said:
> >>
> >>>Yes. Both dressy and casual.  Kohl's really caters to little
> >>>old ladies.
> >>>
> >>Yes, they do.
> >>
> >>Hm. Well, next time I go to Home Depot, I'll look at their clothes.
> >>
> >
> > (They are next door to each other.)
> >
>
>
> I'm glad you clarified that.  I thought my mind was going again.

As long as you didn't think my mind was going.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 14:58:30 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16301
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 14:58:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013F8DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:06:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13454390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 21:06:33 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J16Xt04113 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:06:33 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZH007XP1QWV1@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:06:32 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEOFFDAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Message-ID:  <3D3765BB.4090502@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:04:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:

>>I picked up _Soul Mountain_ at the library the other day
>>just because the jacket said the book had won the Nobel
>>Prize (hey, worth a shot with that kind of cred).  It's a
>>Chinese road novel!  It blends perfectly with my summer
>>reading regimen.  I am so pleased.  Plus, the novel is
>>good.  Reminds me quite a bit more of _Blue Highways_ than
>>_On the Road_.
>>
>>>--
>>>
>>Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>>
>
> Blue Highways is easily one of my most favorite reads. This past week the
> NYTimes ran a fun piece on a guy travelling to his kid's graduation by
> Vanagan (sp?). I want to do that one year..... Take three or so months and
> travel in a Vanagan. They also ran a piece on travelling in an RV. The
> Vanagan experience seemed like the better bet. I adore road trips.


I recommend Soul Mountain to you, then.

The Post-Dispatch had an article about a family doing a long
trip in a Suburban last year that sounded fun.  I'd prefer a
conversion van, though -- or Vanagon :).  An RV would be
cushier, of course, but that's a big thing to be driving all
over the place.

I also adore road trips.  My current favorite is I-44 across
Missouri.





--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 14:59:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16307
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 14:59:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0013F905@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:07:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13454422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 21:07:31 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J17Vt04245 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:07:31 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.33]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZH1QK02.54X for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:06:20 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D370D94.5AA59BBC@valstar.net>
            <002e01c22eb4$adaa3800$360332d1@0018079268>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D376630.4D4FDAA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:06:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What I learned today on the booklists
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:

>   When I was a kid living in the
> country and nowhere near a library  I used
> to walk to all the neighbor's farms and ask if
> they had any books.

    Back in Indiana, being known as "Vi's boy - you know, the one that
*reads*", I was the beneficiary of many chicken coop books, my favorite
being an 11th Britannica, printed on foolscap, bound in (I believe)
sealskin, and gilt embossed, with supplements bringing it up to date in
1924.  I still can't believe my good fortune.

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 14:59:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16314
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 14:59:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECFF8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:01:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13454426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 21:07:37 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J17bt04254 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:07:37 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZH0099G1SODL@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:07:36 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020719010453.358E2820C@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D3765FB.4050108@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:06:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>
>>>Karen Kay said:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Rita Chapman said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Yes. Both dressy and casual.  Kohl's really caters to little
>>>>>old ladies.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Yes, they do.
>>>>
>>>>Hm. Well, next time I go to Home Depot, I'll look at their clothes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>(They are next door to each other.)
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I'm glad you clarified that.  I thought my mind was going again.
>>
>
> As long as you didn't think my mind was going.:)
>


        Karen, Karen, Karen.  It's all about *me*.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 15:07:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16383
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 15:07:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0013FA07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:15:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13454640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 21:15:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J1Fbt04988 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:15:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B90B57E04; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 18:14:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719011451.B90B57E04@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:14:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3765FB.4050108@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 18,
              2002  8: 6: 3 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Rita Chapman said:
> >
> >>Karen Kay wrote:
> >>
> >>>Karen Kay said:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Rita Chapman said:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Yes. Both dressy and casual.  Kohl's really caters to little
> >>>>>old ladies.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>Yes, they do.
> >>>>
> >>>>Hm. Well, next time I go to Home Depot, I'll look at their clothes.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>(They are next door to each other.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>I'm glad you clarified that.  I thought my mind was going again.
> >>
> >
> > As long as you didn't think my mind was going.:)
> >
>
>
>         Karen, Karen, Karen.  It's all about *me*.

I know--and let me say, I don't care if YOUR mind is going!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 15:13:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16407
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 15:13:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECFFEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:16:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13454778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 21:21:39 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J1Ldt05449 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:21:39 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J1E8b32626 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:14:08 -0400
Received: from LAPLAND ([131.128.2.136]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with
          ESMTP id g6J1Jwk24951 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul
          2002 21:19:58 -0400
Originator-Info: login-id=twi5708u; server=postoffice.uri.edu
X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.5, s/n P005-300797-005]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Message-ID:  <529659930.1027026843@LAPLAND>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:14:03 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Terry Wild <twild@URI.EDU>
Subject:      A Maine Words-l Moment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3765FB.4050108@swbell.net>

Seen on a local bumper sticker:

"Real Maine is East of Ellsworth"

Terry

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 15:35:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16498
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 15:35:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED00AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:38:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13455559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 21:43:41 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J1hft07875 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:43:41 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-51.panax.com
          [65.114.190.51]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6J1hdj16852 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          21:43:40 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D3765FB.4050108@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718214239.00a05160@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:43:12 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: A Maine Words-l Moment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <529659930.1027026843@LAPLAND>

>Seen on a local bumper sticker:
>
>"Real Maine is East of Ellsworth"
>Terry

Cool.  So I've been living in Real Maine these past six years instead of
Unreal Maine!


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 15:49:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16551
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 15:49:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0123@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:52:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13455928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 21:57:53 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f58.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J1vqt09089 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:57:53 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          18 Jul 2002 18:57:47 -0700
Received: from 195.229.241.244 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri,
          19 Jul 2002 01:57:46 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [195.229.241.244]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2002 01:57:47.0329 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[AE0D9310:01C22EC7]
Message-ID:  <F58yjfmlS8HRDt82hZP00014607@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 01:57:46 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: ali deeb <deeb_3@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: A Maine Words-l Moment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

stop,please


>From: Terry Wild <twild@URI.EDU>
>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: A Maine Words-l Moment
>Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:14:03 -0400
>
>Seen on a local bumper sticker:
>
>"Real Maine is East of Ellsworth"
>
>Terry




_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 15:53:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16566
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 15:53:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0160@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:55:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13456119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:01:36 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J21Zt09618 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:01:35 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J1s4b02663 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:54:04 -0400
Received: from LAPLAND ([131.128.2.136]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with
          ESMTP id g6J20Sk12693 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul
          2002 22:00:28 -0400
Originator-Info: login-id=twi5708u; server=postoffice.uri.edu
X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.5, s/n P005-300797-005]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Message-ID:  <532089834.1027029273@LAPLAND>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:54:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Terry Wild <twild@URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: A Maine Words-l Moment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718214239.00a05160@pop3.norton.antivirus>

I wondered if you and Clyde had a printing business on the side.... after
all there are a lot of tourists flowing through that area....so you've
never seen one of these?

Interesting what some people come up with to generate attention.  Here in
RI, we excel in the extraordinary.  The Potato Head sculptures across the
state was only the beginning.  Now the Big Blue Bug, the termite mascot for
a pest control business will go on tour after his refurbishing is complete.
This character sports a lighted red nose at Christmas.
Nibbles Woodaway can be seen at: http://www.roadsideamerica.com/map/ri.html

Terry

--On Thursday, July 18, 2002, 9:43 PM -0400 bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
wrote:

>
> Cool.  So I've been living in Real Maine these past six years instead of
> Unreal Maine!
>
>
>     --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 15:58:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16595
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 15:58:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0213@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:00:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13457561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:06:08 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J268t12704 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:06:08 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6J2BIt30046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:11:18
          +0200
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719041118.A30043@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:11:18 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      test listserv
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

testing which uga server this went through

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 15:58:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16599
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 15:58:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED021A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:00:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13457599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:06:30 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J26Ut12797 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:06:30 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J26Tp07945 for
          <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:06:29 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6J2BmU30055 for words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:11:48
          +0200
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719041148.B30043@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:11:48 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      test 2
Comments: To: words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

testing the cc address

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:02:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16614
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:02:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0238@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:04:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13457733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:10:22 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J2ALt13241 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:10:21 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6J2AKRJ031178 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:10:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D3765FB.4050108@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020718190951.00a2b290@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:10:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Rita's and  Karen's minds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719011451.B90B57E04@yellow.rahul.net>

At 06:14 PM 7/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Rita Chapman said:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > > Rita Chapman said:
> > >
> > >>Karen Kay wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Karen Kay said:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Rita Chapman said:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>Yes. Both dressy and casual.  Kohl's really caters to little
> > >>>>>old ladies.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>Yes, they do.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Hm. Well, next time I go to Home Depot, I'll look at their clothes.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>(They are next door to each other.)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>I'm glad you clarified that.  I thought my mind was going again.
> > >>
> > >
> > > As long as you didn't think my mind was going.:)
> > >
> >
> >
> >         Karen, Karen, Karen.  It's all about *me*.
>
>I know--and let me say, I don't care if YOUR mind is going!

You don't?  It really is about you?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:18:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16683
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:18:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED031A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:20:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13458291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:26:24 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6J2QNt14955 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:26:23 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA09415
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          19:26:22 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4650E97005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:26:22 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 9405 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2002 02:26:21 -0000
Received: from p26.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.73?) (66.237.73.73) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 19 Jul 2002 02:26:21 -0000
References: <3D36CA62.643CCC0D@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130300b95d223ce967@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:26:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sheesh
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718100227.00b57258@mail.panax.com>

>Is he the same guy who writes the Nigerian-money scam spams?
>
>cwv

WLM:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/31/26259.html

For the non-clickers among us, it's a t-shirt with the slogan "My money
went to Nigeria and all I got was this lousy t-shirt" on the front, and the
text of an actual Nigerian scam letter on the back.

Ken Miller
Bernard Chien Perro Memorial Institute for Words-L Studies

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:18:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16693
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:18:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED031C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:20:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13458298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:26:31 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6J2QUt14977 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:26:31 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA09443
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          19:26:28 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DBDD597007 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:26:25 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 9422 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2002 02:26:24 -0000
Received: from p26.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.73?) (66.237.73.73) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 19 Jul 2002 02:26:24 -0000
References: <F254VHURNJpIZMamXdn00014118@hotmail.com> from Amy Burns Short at  
            "Jul 18, 2002  2:41:38 pm"
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130301b95d24b97ef9@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:26:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Gourmet v. Gourmand
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718144735.8084E80C1@yellow.rahul.net>

>> another source would reveal this. Perhaps I don't know wtf I'm talking about
>> -- but I think I do.
>
>Of course, you do, Amy--that's your hallmark.

>Karen

I would say that that may be the hallmark of wordslers in general.

Ken Miller
Wild School of Assertion

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:19:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16702
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:19:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0326@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:22:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13458330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:27:51 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6J2Rpt15097 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:27:51 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA09599
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          19:27:50 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4265C97005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:27:49 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 9593 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2002 02:27:48 -0000
Received: from p26.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.73?) (66.237.73.73) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 19 Jul 2002 02:27:48 -0000
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207180742040.49890-100000@idiom.com>
            <4.2.2.20020718063844.00ac8ad0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130303b95d25dbc330@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:27:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020718075640.00acc4b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

At 7:57 AM -0700 7/18/02, Betty wrote:
>That will work.  We have to invite Myles when we settle on a date.  Ken,
>Sharon, Janet, Pete?
>
>Betty

My weekends suck between now and Sept. 1.  'Sway it goes.  But keep me
informed.

Ken Miller
Ergophobic Correspondent
The Lostin Times

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:21:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16707
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:21:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED032D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:23:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13458357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:29:31 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6J2TUt15203 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:29:31 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA09836
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          19:29:30 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7700A97005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:29:29 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 9828 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2002 02:29:28 -0000
Received: from p26.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.73?) (66.237.73.73) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 19 Jul 2002 02:29:28 -0000
References: <20020718140854.336AF823E@yellow.rahul.net>
            <001301c22e64$20e01980$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130304b95d26c6fa77@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:29:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718115543.00b5de90@mail.panax.com>

>Roget includes 'gormand' under 994. Gluttony,  whereas 'gourmet'  and
>'gourmand' are synonymized under  897. Taste, Tastefulness.
>
>Garner (Modern American Usage (sic) indicates that although once
>synonymous, the connotations of the two have diverged with 'gourmand'
>taking on the negative connotation as noted above under Webster: 1.
>
>cwv
>wondering if dictionary.com is a Gatesian product

I think of you as more of a gastronome.  Am I in the ballpark?

Ken Miller
Organoleptics Department
California Institute of Haughty Cuisine

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:24:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16712
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:24:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014032F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:32:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13458461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:32:28 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J2WRt15537 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:32:27 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZH007RH5Q3V1@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:32:27 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D36CA62.643CCC0D@valstar.net>
            <v03130300b95d223ce967@[198.144.202.197]>
Message-ID:  <3D3779DE.6010706@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:30:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Sheesh
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ohmygod.  They must get a U.S. distributor for this.  It's
fantastic.  I've personally received email from at least 1/4
the population of Nigeria on my ETEXT account.  I got 5 or 6
copies of this just today.


Bookrat wrote:

>>Is he the same guy who writes the Nigerian-money scam spams?
>>
>>cwv
>>
>
> WLM:
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/31/26259.html
>
> For the non-clickers among us, it's a t-shirt with the slogan "My money
> went to Nigeria and all I got was this lousy t-shirt" on the front, and the
> text of an actual Nigerian scam letter on the back.
>
> Ken Miller
> Bernard Chien Perro Memorial Institute for Words-L Studies
>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:25:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16737
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:25:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014034B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:33:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13458492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:33:29 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J2XTt15606 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:33:29 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6J2XSRJ016227 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:33:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020718144735.8084E80C1@yellow.rahul.net>
            <F254VHURNJpIZMamXdn00014118@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020718193256.00ad2340@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:33:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gourmet v. Gourmand
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130301b95d24b97ef9@[198.144.202.197]>

At 07:26 PM 7/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >> another source would reveal this. Perhaps I don't know wtf I'm talking
> about
> >> -- but I think I do.
> >
> >Of course, you do, Amy--that's your hallmark.
>
> >Karen
>
>I would say that that may be the hallmark of wordslers in general.

Yeah, I was thinking pot and kettle.

How much facial hair has returned, Boo?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:25:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16741
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:25:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0353@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:28:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13458496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:33:45 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J2Xit15614 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:33:44 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZH008EG5S84J@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:33:44 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D3765FB.4050108@swbell.net>
            <4.2.2.20020718190951.00a2b290@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D377A2B.7040405@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:32:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Rita's and  Karen's minds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> At 06:14 PM 7/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>
>> Rita Chapman said:
>> > Karen Kay wrote:
>> >
>> > > Rita Chapman said:
>> > >
>> > >>Karen Kay wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>>Karen Kay said:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>Rita Chapman said:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>>Yes. Both dressy and casual.  Kohl's really caters to little
>> > >>>>>old ladies.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>Yes, they do.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Hm. Well, next time I go to Home Depot, I'll look at their clothes.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>(They are next door to each other.)
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >>I'm glad you clarified that.  I thought my mind was going again.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > As long as you didn't think my mind was going.:)
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >         Karen, Karen, Karen.  It's all about *me*.
>>
>> I know--and let me say, I don't care if YOUR mind is going!
>
>
> You don't?  It really is about you?
>


        I feel so... oh, where is that Tushar when you need him *sniff*.


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:26:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16745
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:26:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED035B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:28:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13458520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:34:12 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J2YBt15679 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:34:11 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6J2YARJ024676 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:34:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020718075640.00acc4b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207180742040.49890-100000@idiom.com>
            <4.2.2.20020718063844.00ac8ad0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020718193350.00ad9a70@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:34:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130303b95d25dbc330@[198.144.202.197]>

At 07:27 PM 7/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>At 7:57 AM -0700 7/18/02, Betty wrote:
> >That will work.  We have to invite Myles when we settle on a date.  Ken,
> >Sharon, Janet, Ann, Pete?
> >
> >Betty
>
>My weekends suck between now and Sept. 1.  'Sway it goes.  But keep me
>informed.

Okay!


B

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:30:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16764
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:30:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0381@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:32:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13458648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:38:02 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J2bwt15969 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:37:58 -0400
Received: from menudo.vt.com (root@menudo.vt.com [204.117.188.234]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J2bvp16897 for
          <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:37:57 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by menudo.vt.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA13172 for
          <steph@words-l.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:26:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6J2guJ30132 for steph@words-l.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:42:56 +0200
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719044256.D30043@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:42:56 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      test 3
Comments: To: steph@words-l.org
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In case you all are wondering why I'm testing the list, it is
because one of the two machines that sends out words-l mail is
listed in spamcop.  Since we're using spamcop to filter things,
this means that some of your fine drivel is going straight into
the dumpster before I ever see it.  I wanted to see if it made a
difference how I sent the mail to the list, using the old
uga.cc.uga.edu address, the new listserv address, or the
words-l.org address.

There are two servers, 128.192.1.103, which is blinking on the
edge of being listed and delisted, and 128.192.1.101, which doesn't get a
hit.  If one of you has saved Karen's delicious looking menu and
would check the headers and see if it went through 103, then I
will know that it is not some other list flakiness going on.

As for the steph@words-l.org address which is generating the most
amazing spam (I am easily amazed), I don't know why Anne won't
ask Graham to fix it.  It's in his control, as it's all flowing
through menudo.vt.com.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:33:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16793
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:33:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED03A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:36:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13458785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:41:58 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J2fwt16308 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:41:58 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZH009FN65XDZ@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:41:57 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020719044256.D30043@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Message-ID:  <3D377C18.70905@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:40:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: test 3
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:


> As for the steph@words-l.org address which is generating the most
> amazing spam (I am easily amazed), I don't know why Anne won't
> ask Graham to fix it.  It's in his control, as it's all flowing
> through menudo.vt.com.


Maybe he's easily amazed, too.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:41:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16809
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:41:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED041A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:44:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13458740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:49:47 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J2dlt16136 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:39:47 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6J2dkUh005090 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:39:46 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207182239030.14816-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:39:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Finn prep
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

My FinnRail card in on its way ... does no one know whether the Helsinki
card is a good deal?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:44:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16833
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:44:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0449@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:46:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13459331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:52:38 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6J2qct17389 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:52:38 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA12895
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          19:52:36 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7346F97005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:52:35 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 12880 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2002 02:52:34 -0000
Received: from p24.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.73?) (66.237.73.71) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 19 Jul 2002 02:52:34 -0000
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130306b95d2efce85e@[66.237.73.73]>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:52:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: A Maine Words-l Moment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F58yjfmlS8HRDt82hZP00014607@hotmail.com>

At 6:57 PM -0700 7/18/02, ali deeb wrote:
>stop,please

Who are you, ali deeb, and why do you care so much about where the
boundaries of Real Maine are?

Ken Miller
Why School of Inquiry

>
>
>>From: Terry Wild <twild@URI.EDU>
>>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>Subject: A Maine Words-l Moment
>>Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:14:03 -0400
>>
>>Seen on a local bumper sticker:
>>
>>"Real Maine is East of Ellsworth"
>>
>>Terry
>
>
>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:45:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16847
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:45:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0451@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:47:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13459362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:53:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J2r7t17447 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:53:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E01807E7D; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 19:53:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719025306.E01807E7D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:53:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130304b95d26c6fa77@[198.144.202.197]> from Bookrat at "Jul
              18, 2002  7:29:22 pm"

Bookrat said:
> I think of you as more of a gastronome.  Am I in the ballpark?

I'd accept that.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:50:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16851
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:50:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0536@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:53:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13460035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 22:58:43 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J2wht18131 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:58:43 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6J2wfE02333 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:58:41 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207182156550.1730-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:58:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: A Maine Words-l Moment
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130306b95d2efce85e@[66.237.73.73]>

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Bookrat wrote:

> At 6:57 PM -0700 7/18/02, ali deeb wrote:
> >stop,please
>
> Who are you, ali deeb, and why do you care so much about where the
> boundaries of Real Maine are?

I think he just wants the mail flood to stop.

Anne, send him a BYH please!

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:52:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16882
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:52:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00140609@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:00:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13460424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:00:05 -0400
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J304t18462 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:00:04 -0400
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu
          (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id
          <0.03ED05B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:54:25 -0400
Message-ID:  <200207190300.g6J304t18462@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:00:03 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: test 3
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:42:56 +0200, steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM> wrote:
>There are two servers, 128.192.1.103, which is blinking on the
>edge of being listed and delisted, and 128.192.1.101, which doesn't get a
>hit.  If one of you has saved Karen's delicious looking menu and
>would check the headers and see if it went through 103, then I
>will know that it is not some other list flakiness going on.

Actually, *I* saved it. I don't usually save my posts, but I realized that
it was the only place I had it written down, and I developed my shopping
list from that.

It looks like it went through 101:
>From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 18 08:10:30 2002
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 65534)
        id DF7918184; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:10:29 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
        by clearmx1.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDB61B294
        for <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:10:29 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu
(LSMTP for Wind
ows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECCAA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
11:04:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13409632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 11:10:28 -0400

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:52:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16886
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:52:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED05DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:54:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13460530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:00:17 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J30Ht18532 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:00:17 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6J30FG02415 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:00:15 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207182159020.1730-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:00:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719025306.E01807E7D@yellow.rahul.net>

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> Bookrat said:
> > I think of you as more of a gastronome.  Am I in the ballpark?
>
> I'd accept that.

If they named a ballpark after you I guess it would be the Gastrodome.

snork

sorry, I'm bored

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:54:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16895
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:54:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014069A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:02:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13461424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:02:19 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J32It19153 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:02:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3071882C2; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 20:02:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719030218.3071882C2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:02:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: your mail
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  From "owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU" at "Jul 18,
              2002  8:10:30 am"

owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU said:
> (LSMTP for Wind
> ows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ECCAA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
> 11:04:50 -0400
> Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
>           1.8d) with spool id 13409632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
>           Jul 2002 11:10:28 -0400

Ooh, well.

Forget that.

Try this: "Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu
[128.192.1.101])
        by clearmx1.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDB61B294
        for <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:10:29 -0700
           (PDT)"

Lets see if that works.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:54:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16899
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:54:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0737@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:57:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13461580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:02:42 -0400
Received: from jandor.look.ca (jandor.look.ca [207.136.80.126]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J32gt19230 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:02:42 -0400
Received: from on-tor-blr-a58-04-69.look.ca ([216.154.16.69]) by jandor.look.ca
          with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17VO2S-00060e-00 for
          WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:02:40 -0400
X-Sender: jemcinto@idirect.ca
X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Message-ID:  <1.5.4.16.20020718230255.1567b144@idirect.ca>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:02:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: James McIntosh <jemcinto@IDIRECT.CA>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

At 03:13 PM 7/17/02 -0500, you wrote:
>alyce cresap wrote:
>
>> I think that Knox County considers consulting to be a business. It is
>> around here.
>
>Wouldn't there be some kind of dividing line between doing very
>occasional consulting (or whatever), not producing much money, and doing
>lots of consulting (or whatever)?  I can't imagine that everybody who
>ever adds a small figure to the "other income" line on the tax form is
>considered a business.
>
>--
> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Even someone who does a small amount of activity to earn income other than
as an employee is considered to be a business.

There are 3 types of businesses:

1) sole proprietorship - just one person
    For practical purposes, the line blurs between your money and your
business' money.
    That is why you can own a business for years and not realize that you
own a business.

2) partnership - two people

3) corporation - typically three or more people
One or two people can incorporate, but incorporation can cost a lot of money.
There are government forms to fill out.
You must search for name conflicts.
Since every corporation has to have a distinct name, an already-existing
corporation may sue you if your corporation's name could reasonably be
confused with theirs.

You can own a business, such as being an independent contractor, and only be
a sole proprietorship, rather than a partnership or corporation.

All modern corporations are limited-liability.

The only unlimited-liability corporation still in existence is Lloyd's of
London insurance, where buying a share in the company makes you a partner,
vulnerable to all corporate losses. Normally, when you own a share in a
corporation, all the money that you can lose is the amount that you paid for
the share. With the unlimited-liability Lloyd's of London insurance, as with
an unlimited-liability partnership, you can lose every penny you own and go
bankrupt.

The concept of an unlimited-liability corporation has become so alien to
people that few are aware of the danger of buying stock in Lloyd's of London.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:55:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16903
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:55:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001406CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:03:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13461777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:02:59 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J32xt19323 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:02:59 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-59.panax.com [63.163.41.59])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J32vj30947 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:02:58 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020718115543.00b5de90@mail.panax.com>
            <20020718140854.336AF823E@yellow.rahul.net>
            <001301c22e64$20e01980$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718230214.00b6f6c8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:02:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130304b95d26c6fa77@[198.144.202.197]>

At 07:29 PM 7/18/2002 -0700, ken wrote:

>I think of you as more of a gastronome.  Am I in the ballpark?

Oh, I suppose...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:55:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16907
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 16:55:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED07D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:57:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13461998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:03:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J33Qt19445 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:03:26 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C0C5F82C8; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 20:03:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719030325.C0C5F82C8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:03:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207182159020.1730-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 18, 2002 10: 0:15 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> If they named a ballpark after you I guess it would be the Gastrodome.
>
> snork
>
> sorry, I'm bored

Then you can answer me this: *er* is still itching from poison oak.
What will stop the itching?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 17:02:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16919
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 17:02:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0AE9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:05:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13464238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:10:54 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J3Art21036 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:10:53 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6J3GDb30256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 05:16:13
          +0200
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207182239030.14816-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719051613.A30218@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 05:16:13 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Finn prep
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207182239030.14816-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>; from
              dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 10:39:46PM -0400

On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 10:39:46PM -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
= My FinnRail card in on its way ... does no one know whether the Helsinki
= card is a good deal?
=
= Bethany

What a loser.  Figure it out for yourself.  All the prices and
discounts are listed on the web site.  What metric are you using
that you can't figure out for yourself whether it's a good deal?

steph
grumpy from lack of sleep

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 17:05:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16926
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 17:05:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0B08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:07:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13464345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:13:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J3DHt21340 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:13:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 53AF77EB4; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 20:13:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719031317.53AF77EB4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:13:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Finn prep
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719051613.A30218@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              19, 2002  5:16:13 am"

steph said:
> grumpy from lack of sleep

Well, I'm glad you didn't trash my menu.

Instead of squid to boil, I bought a mixture of squid, cuttlefish,
mussels, shrimp, and octopus.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 17:06:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16933
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 17:06:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0014089D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:14:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13464378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:14:50 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J3Ent21490 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:14:49 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6J3K9b30276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 05:20:09
          +0200
References: <200207190300.g6J304t18462@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719052009.B30218@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 05:20:09 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: test 3
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <200207190300.g6J304t18462@listserv.cc.uga.edu>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 11:00:03PM -0400

On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 11:00:03PM -0400, Karen wrote:
=
= It looks like it went through 101:
= >From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 18 08:10:30 2002
= Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 65534)
=         id DF7918184; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:10:29 -0700 (PDT)
= Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])

Shit.  Um, since we don't know how things are set up at uga, I
suppose it's quite possible that it went out to you via 101 and
me via 103.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 17:13:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16943
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 17:13:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001408FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:21:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13464589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:21:27 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J3LQt22075 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:21:26 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6J3LM603515 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:21:22 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207182219340.2434-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:21:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719030325.C0C5F82C8@yellow.rahul.net>

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> Then you can answer me this: *er* is still itching from poison oak.
> What will stop the itching?

Allan sez Tecnu OAK-N-IVY  Cleansing Treatment

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 17:24:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16963
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 17:24:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0C08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:27:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13465178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:32:48 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J3Wlt23319 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:32:47 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6J3c7t30304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 05:38:07
          +0200
References: <20020719051613.A30218@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020719031317.53AF77EB4@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719053807.C30218@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 05:38:07 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Finn prep
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719031317.53AF77EB4@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 08:13:17PM -0700

On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 08:13:17PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
= steph said:
= > grumpy from lack of sleep
=
= Well, I'm glad you didn't trash my menu.
=

How could I possibly?  It looked absolutely scrumptious.  I'm
wishing I could spend a day cooking a 7 course meal with you.

As for Bethany and Helsinki, I really don't get why she can't
figure out if it's a good deal.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 17:25:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16967
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 17:25:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001409B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:33:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13465213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:33:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J3XSt23398 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:33:28 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A0FEB827F; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 20:33:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719033327.A0FEB827F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:33:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: test 3
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719044256.D30043@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              19, 2002  4:42:56 am"

steph said:
> There are two servers, 128.192.1.103, which is blinking on the
> edge of being listed and delisted, and 128.192.1.101, which doesn't get a
> hit.

I think 101 is just a newer server--I only have one hit on it before
August 2001--and that's why it's not listed.

And I think the two servers are used randomly.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 17:25:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16971
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 17:25:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0C17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:28:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13465224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:33:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J3Xst23447 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:33:54 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DC30982D1; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 20:33:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719033353.DC30982D1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:33:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207182219340.2434-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 18, 2002 10:21:22 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Then you can answer me this: *er* is still itching from poison oak.
> > What will stop the itching?
>
> Allan sez Tecnu OAK-N-IVY  Cleansing Treatment

I've read that's only for when you first do it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 17:33:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17023
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 17:33:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00140A0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:41:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13465423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:41:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J3fHt24057 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:41:17 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BEF6082C8; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 20:41:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719034116.BEF6082C8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:41:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Finn prep
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719053807.C30218@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              19, 2002  5:38: 7 am"

steph said:
> How could I possibly?  It looked absolutely scrumptious.  I'm
> wishing I could spend a day cooking a 7 course meal with you.

Or 9.:) For you, I'd deep fry! (Ginger tempura, yum.)

> As for Bethany and Helsinki, I really don't get why she can't
> figure out if it's a good deal.

Oh, I agree, totally.

Damn, I hope this job works out for me. I'd love to visit Japan
again.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 17:34:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17054
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 17:34:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0C53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:36:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13465450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:42:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J3g1t24130 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:42:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 42C8C82E5; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 20:42:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719034201.42C8C82E5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:42:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719033353.DC30982D1@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at
              "Jul 18, 2002  8:33:53 pm"

Karen Kay said:
> Ann Borkin said:
> > On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > > Then you can answer me this: *er* is still itching from poison oak.
> > > What will stop the itching?
> >
> > Allan sez Tecnu OAK-N-IVY  Cleansing Treatment
>
> I've read that's only for when you first do it.

Sorry, this was a question. What does Allan think would be a week later?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 17:41:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17105
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 17:41:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0CA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:43:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13465716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:49:07 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J3n7t24769 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:49:07 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6J3sR330345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 05:54:27
          +0200
References: <20020719044256.D30043@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020719033327.A0FEB827F@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719055427.D30218@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 05:54:27 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: test 3
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719033327.A0FEB827F@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 08:33:27PM -0700

=
= I think 101 is just a newer server--I only have one hit on it before
= August 2001--and that's why it's not listed.
=
= And I think the two servers are used randomly.
=
= Karen

Not quite.  The bulk of the mail I get comes through 101.  Check
this url:
http://spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblock&ip=128.192.1.103

You'll see that there are 19 spam reports on 103 in the past 5
days,  and if you type in 101, there are none.  If the mail
is going out randomly,  they'd both have the same amount of listed spam
reports.

So, some of the words-l mail I get comes from 103.  All of the
reported spam comes from 103.  Port 25 is open on both, but I
can't remember enough or the rules have changed to fake an email
(or it's set up in a way that port 25 can be open and it still
won't take my commands).

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 17:43:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17121
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 17:43:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0CB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:45:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13465770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:51:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J3pCt24933 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:51:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E6B3982F4; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 20:51:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719035111.E6B3982F4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:51:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: test 3
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719055427.D30218@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              19, 2002  5:54:27 am"

steph said:
> You'll see that there are 19 spam reports on 103 in the past 5
> days,  and if you type in 101, there are none.  If the mail
> is going out randomly,  they'd both have the same amount of listed spam
> reports.

Hm. I don't quite get this, but okay.

> So, some of the words-l mail I get comes from 103.  All of the
> reported spam comes from 103.

Yep.

> Port 25 is open on both, but I
> can't remember enough or the rules have changed to fake an email
> (or it's set up in a way that port 25 can be open and it still
> won't take my commands).

I don't know either--but someone will.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 17:46:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17135
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 17:46:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0CD5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:48:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13465913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 23:54:21 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J3sKt25231 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:54:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2B35982EA; Thu, 18
          Jul 2002 20:54:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719035420.2B35982EA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:54:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Nick Parks' Sheep
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

It's the Serta commercials.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 18:01:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17251
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 18:01:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00140BFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 0:09:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13467758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 00:08:02 -0400
Received: from mail.infochan.com (mail.infochan.com [208.52.68.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J43Ct26852 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:03:13 -0400
Received: from [192.168.254.13] ([208.138.22.79]) by mail.infochan.com
          (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with
          ESMTP id com for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          23:03:02 -0500
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B95CF9A6.F717%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:03:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Old City Business
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <1.5.4.16.20020718230255.1567b144@idirect.ca>

On 18/7/2002 10:02 PM, James McIntosh wrote:

> The only unlimited-liability corporation still in existence is Lloyd's of
> London insurance, where buying a share in the company makes you a partner,
> vulnerable to all corporate losses. Normally, when you own a share in a
> corporation, all the money that you can lose is the amount that you paid for
> the share. With the unlimited-liability Lloyd's of London insurance, as with
> an unlimited-liability partnership, you can lose every penny you own and go
> bankrupt.

A concept which was intended to provide security to the customers of Lloyd's
- knowing that the policies they purchased would give them rights against
the individual investor's assets.

But so many Lloyd's "Names" (Lloyd's jargon for "investors") did go bankrupt
in the 90s that the powers-that-were changed the rules to allow corporate
(limited liability entities) names, with certain minimum capital
requirements of course.


--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 18:01:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17255
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 18:01:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0F4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 0:03:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13467842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 00:08:04 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J444t26993 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:04:04 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6J443q06077 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:04:03 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207182303300.3680-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:04:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719033353.DC30982D1@yellow.rahul.net>

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> Ann Borkin said:
> > On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > > Then you can answer me this: *er* is still itching from poison oak.
> > > What will stop the itching?
> >
> > Allan sez Tecnu OAK-N-IVY  Cleansing Treatment
>
> I've read that's only for when you first do it.

When you first do what?

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 18:01:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17259
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 18:01:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00140C10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 0:09:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13468070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 00:08:07 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J45Xt27210 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:05:33 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6J45Wp06158 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:05:32 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207182304440.3680-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:05:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719034201.42C8C82E5@yellow.rahul.net>

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> Sorry, this was a question. What does Allan think would be a week later?

A week after the symptoms show, you mean . . . He says don't scratch but
there's nothing else to do.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 18:01:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17263
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 18:01:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED0F6B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 0:03:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13468096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 00:08:07 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J46qt27350 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:06:52 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6J46o206237 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:06:50 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207182306150.6183-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:06:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207182219340.2434-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Then you can answer me this: *er* is still itching from poison oak.
> > What will stop the itching?
>

I say scratch everything until it bleeds profusely.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 18:26:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17390
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 18:26:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED111F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 0:28:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13469389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 00:34:13 -0400
Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J4YDt30088 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:34:13 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.115.14aed0e1 (4446) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul
          2002 00:34:03 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <115.14aed0e1.2a68f0bb@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:34:03 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Nick Parks' Sheep
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/18/2002 11:10:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:

<<
It's the Serta commercials.


>>

Oh, I like them and would love to see more commercials with them.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 19:06:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA17627
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 19:06:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED12F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 1:08:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13470952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 01:14:33 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6J5EWt01298 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 01:14:32 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA02125
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Thu, 18 Jul 2002
          22:14:31 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B9DA97009 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:13:57 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 2010 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2002 05:13:55 -0000
Received: from p13.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?66.237.73.60?) (66.237.73.60) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 19 Jul 2002 05:13:55 -0000
References: <20020719033327.A0FEB827F@yellow.rahul.net>; from
            karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 08:33:27PM -0700 
            <20020719044256.D30043@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020719033327.A0FEB827F@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130302b95d4b99a155@[66.237.73.60]>
Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:13:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: test 3
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719055427.D30218@yoccoz.multinix.com>

>So, some of the words-l mail I get comes from 103.  All of the
>reported spam comes from 103.  Port 25 is open on both, but I
>can't remember enough or the rules have changed to fake an email
>(or it's set up in a way that port 25 can be open and it still
>won't take my commands).
>
>steph

After a little bit of farting around, here's my hypothesis:

All of the spam given as an example seems to go through
zopyros.ccqc.uga.edu (aka www.ccqc.uga.edu).  As of now, that site doesn't
relay offsite mail; but perhaps it did until earlier this evening.  If that
site was configured to use 103 as its upstream stmp, and if it had an open
relay until just a little while ago, that would explain everything.

Otherwise, I'm at a loss.  Unless all those "(from nobody@localhost) by
zopyros.ccqc.uga.edu" headers mean that poor zopyros has been ownzed and is
now somebody's zombie bitch.

Ken Miller
Technoannalist
William Huskisson Centre for Neoludditic Studies

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 21:00:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18326
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 20:59:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001415BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 3:07:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13474223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 03:07:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J77rt11072 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 03:07:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 95F4F7EBD; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 00:07:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719070752.95F4F7EBD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:07:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207182303300.3680-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 18, 2002 11: 4: 3 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> > Ann Borkin said:
> > > On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> > >
> > > > Then you can answer me this: *er* is still itching from poison oak.
> > > > What will stop the itching?
> > >
> > > Allan sez Tecnu OAK-N-IVY  Cleansing Treatment
> >
> > I've read that's only for when you first do it.
>
> When you first do what?

Get poison oak all over your body.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 21:00:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18335
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 21:00:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED1639@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 3:02:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13474231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 03:08:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J78Yt11103 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 03:08:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 675A57EFC; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 00:08:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719070833.675A57EFC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:08:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207182304440.3680-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 18, 2002 11: 5:32 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> > Sorry, this was a question. What does Allan think would be a week later?
>
> A week after the symptoms show, you mean . . . He says don't scratch but
> there's nothing else to do.

Okay. (*er* is a scratcher.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 21:01:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18339
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 12 Jun 1960 21:01:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED163D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 3:04:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13474247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 03:09:42 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6J79gt11151 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 03:09:42 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 556847EFC; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 00:09:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719070941.556847EFC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:09:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207182306150.6183-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 18, 2002 11: 6:50 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > > Then you can answer me this: *er* is still itching from poison oak.
> > > What will stop the itching?
> >
>
> I say scratch everything until it bleeds profusely.

I think you and *er* are of like mind.:( Maybe I'll give him the 2ndary
infection lecture.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 01:04:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA19883
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 01:04:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED1B84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 7:06:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13479126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 07:12:26 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JBCQt11681 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 07:12:26 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6JBCPQ06185 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          06:12:25 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000e01c22f15$5f80f220$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 06:13:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bribery?  Fraud?  Tax Evasion?

Come on now.  I guess we all know he's
gotta go because of his hairdo.

                  - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 01:44:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA20115
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 01:44:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00142081@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 7:51:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13479973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 07:51:48 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JBfmt14912 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 07:41:48 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6JBflUh008902 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 07:41:47 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207190740510.16900-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 07:41:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Finn prep
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719053807.C30218@yoccoz.multinix.com>

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, steph wrote:

>As for Bethany and Helsinki, I really don't get why she can't
>figure out if it's a good deal.

I have never been in H., hence do not know whether attractions justify
price. I thought someone might have an opinion.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 01:47:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA20124
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 01:47:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED1CEA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 7:49:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13480033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 07:55:35 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JBjZt15251 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 07:45:35 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6JBjYUh009725 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 07:45:34 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207190744590.16900-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 07:45:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Finn prep
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719051613.A30218@yoccoz.multinix.com>

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, steph wrote:

>What a loser.  Figure it out for yourself.  All the prices and
>discounts are listed on the web site.  What metric are you using
>that you can't figure out for yourself whether it's a good deal?

My how helpful - not!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 01:51:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA20155
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 01:51:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001420EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 7:58:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13480624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 07:58:52 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JBwpt16928 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 07:58:52 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18248 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 07:58:51 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02
          07:58:52 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02 07:58:43 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D37C6A9.26452.73162@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 07:58:34 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: I give
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020718231528.203988015@yellow.rahul.net>

The "if you like..." category at IMDB is totally dependent on input
from people who access the records.  So, the "why?" is simply
because somebody thought so.

BrP



> Anyway. IMDB says "If you like this movie, you might also like Forrest
> Gump."
>
> Why, for god's sake???
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 01:57:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA20190
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 01:57:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED1D97@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 7:59:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13480919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 08:04:49 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JC4mt17748 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:04:48 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20105 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:04:48 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02
          08:04:49 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02 08:04:40 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D37C817.24699.CC44F@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:04:39 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000e01c22f15$5f80f220$360332d1@0018079268>

There are certain <public figures> that leave me wondering just
what they're thinking about how they are presenting themselves. Is
it his intention to look like a belligerent fool? I can't imagine that his
behavior could be perceived by anyone (himself included) as
helping his case.

BrP

> Bribery?  Fraud?  Tax Evasion?
>
> Come on now.  I guess we all know he's
> gotta go because of his hairdo.
>
>                   - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 02:13:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA20310
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 02:13:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED1EE0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 8:15:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13481655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 08:21:20 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JCLKt19775 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:21:20 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-112.panax.com
          [65.114.190.112]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JCLEj18878 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          08:21:14 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020719033327.A0FEB827F@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020719044256.D30043@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020719033327.A0FEB827F@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719081718.00b34ff8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:21:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: test 3
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719055427.D30218@yoccoz.multinix.com>

At 05:54 AM 7/19/2002 +0200, steph wrote:

>You'll see that there are 19 spam reports on 103 in the past 5
>days,  and if you type in 101, there are none.  If the mail
>is going out randomly,  they'd both have the same amount of listed spam
>reports.

Umm, no.  You may be correct, but not for the reason you give.  If the
servers are being used randomly, then there is no particular reason for the
spam reports to be distributed evenly.  It's the coin-flipping thing---it
<is> possible to hit 19 straight heads (or tails).

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 02:40:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA20471
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 02:40:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED209C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 8:42:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13482922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 08:48:10 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JCmAt23338 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:48:10 -0400
Received: from BROWNVM.brown.edu (brownvm.brown.edu [128.148.18.19]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JCmAp02364 for
          <WORDS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:48:10 -0400
Received:  by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP Level 320) via spool with SMTP id
           0258 ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:48:31 EDT
Received: from BROWNVM.brown.edu (NJE origin PRIMATE@BROWNVM) by
          BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 8396; Fri, 19 Jul
          2002 08:48:31 -0400
X-Mailer:     MailBook 2000.01.450
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g6JCmAt23339
Message-ID:  <020719.084830.EDT.PRIMATE@BROWNVM.brown.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:46:04 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Department of People With Too Much Time On Their Hands
Comments: To: WORDS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sent on by my son, Evan...
love, judith
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
http://www.museumofconceptualart.com/ible-bay.html

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 02:46:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA20529
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 02:46:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED2113@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 8:48:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13483338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 08:53:55 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JCrtt24533 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:53:55 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust213.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.215]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004052769@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 08:53:54 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020719010453.358E2820C@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D380BFB.A6202CCA@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:54:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> As long as you didn't think my mind was going.:)

The new Land's End catalogue has a nice basic dress, jacket, slacks, and
skirt available in four colors (navy, grey, and two others I forget),
that come in Petite XL. XL is said to be for sizes 18-20, and Petite is
below 5'3". The prices seem reasonable--$32-$45 for the various pieces.

FWIW.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 03:13:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA21728
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 03:13:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001427DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 9:20:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13485588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 09:20:48 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JDKit29572 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:20:48 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6JDQ5S31055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:26:05
          +0200
References: <20020719051613.A30218@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207190744590.16900-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719152605.B31045@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:26:05 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Finn prep
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207190744590.16900-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>; from
              dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU on Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 07:45:34AM -0400

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 07:45:34AM -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
= On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, steph wrote:
=
= >What a loser.  Figure it out for yourself.  All the prices and
= >discounts are listed on the web site.  What metric are you using
= >that you can't figure out for yourself whether it's a good deal?
=
= My how helpful - not!
=
= Bethany

Answer the question!

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 03:22:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22193
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 03:21:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED2509@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 9:24:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13486434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 09:29:44 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JDTht31139 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:29:43 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-36.panax.com
          [65.114.190.36]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JDTgj30142 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          09:29:42 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207190744590.16900-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <20020719051613.A30218@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207190744590.16900-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719092840.00b42088@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:29:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Finn prep
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719152605.B31045@yoccoz.multinix.com>

At 03:26 PM 7/19/2002 +0200, steph wrote:
>= My how helpful - not!
>=
>= Bethany
>
>Answer the question!

Don't be too hard on her, steph---she's doing the best she can, bless her
heart.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 03:22:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22198
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 03:22:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001428E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 9:30:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13486513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 09:30:07 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JDU7t31361 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:30:07 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-74.panax.com
          [65.114.190.74]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JDU6j30222 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          09:30:06 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <000e01c22f15$5f80f220$360332d1@0018079268>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719092900.009fb260@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:29:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D37C817.24699.CC44F@localhost>

>it his intention to look like a belligerent fool? I can't imagine that his
>behavior could be perceived by anyone (himself included) as
>helping his case.      --BrP

It appears that his people back home love the guy.  He's boosting that he
will be re-elected from jail.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 03:25:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22207
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 03:25:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED25A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 9:27:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13486991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 09:33:25 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JDXOt32320 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:33:24 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17582 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:33:23 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02
          09:33:24 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02 09:33:16 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D37DCD1.14360.375D27@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:33:06 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Department of People With Too Much Time On Their Hands
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <020719.084830.EDT.PRIMATE@BROWNVM.brown.edu>

Judith!  So very nice to see you here!  How are you? How is Paul?


> Sent on by my son, Evan...
> love, judith
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> http://www.museumofconceptualart.com/ible-bay.html


as for the Ible-bay, it makes me wonder if the Metropolitan
Community Church members pray to Od-gay.


BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 03:26:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22214
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 03:26:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED25BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 9:28:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13487070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 09:33:45 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JDXjt32415 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:33:45 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust215.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.217]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005363188@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 09:33:36 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000e01c22f15$5f80f220$360332d1@0018079268>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719092900.009fb260@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D381547.50EF2A07@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:33:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> It appears that his people back home love the guy.  He's boosting that he
> will be re-elected from jail.

When he was first elected to Congress (in the '80s, I think), he already
was under a cloud from something shady he had done while being the local
sheriff. It is his way. I think he may be slightly insane, but I have
heard no one in the media or elsewhere suggest this. I just wish he were
not a Democrat.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 03:32:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22227
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 03:32:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED2679@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 9:34:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13487871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 09:40:38 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JDebt01920 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:40:38 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6JDk0931092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:46:00
          +0200
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207190744590.16900-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <20020719051613.A30218@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207190744590.16900-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <20020719152605.B31045@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719092840.00b42088@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719154600.C31045@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:46:00 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Finn prep
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719092840.00b42088@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 09:29:39AM -0400

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 09:29:39AM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
= At 03:26 PM 7/19/2002 +0200, steph wrote:
= >= My how helpful - not!
= >=
= >= Bethany
= >
= >Answer the question!
=
= Don't be too hard on her, steph---she's doing the best she can, bless her
= heart.
=
= cwv

That's not true, and you know it.

We do not have enough information.  On what criteria shall we
base whether it is a good value or not?  I'm trying really hard
not to ask leading questions.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 03:34:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22231
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 03:34:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00142A50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 9:41:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13487944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 09:41:55 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JDfst02142 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:41:54 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6JDlHA31101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:47:17
          +0200
References: <000e01c22f15$5f80f220$360332d1@0018079268>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719092900.009fb260@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D381547.50EF2A07@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719154717.D31045@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:47:17 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D381547.50EF2A07@valstar.net>; from alybooks@VALSTAR.NET on
              Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 09:33:59AM -0400

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 09:33:59AM -0400, alyce cresap wrote:
= bonniev wrote:
= >
= > It appears that his people back home love the guy.  He's boosting that he
= > will be re-elected from jail.
=
= When he was first elected to Congress (in the '80s, I think), he already
= was under a cloud from something shady he had done while being the local
= sheriff. It is his way. I think he may be slightly insane, but I have
= heard no one in the media or elsewhere suggest this. I just wish he were
= not a Democrat.
=
= alyce

I heard he's not anymore.  BBC said he's an independant.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 03:35:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22235
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 03:35:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED26AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 9:37:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13488013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 09:42:56 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JDgut02388 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:42:56 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20666 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:42:55 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02
          09:42:56 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02 09:42:48 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D37DF16.14781.4038ED@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:42:47 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D381547.50EF2A07@valstar.net>

He reminds me a little too much of Vladimir Zhirinovsky

BrP



> bonniev wrote:
> >
> > It appears that his people back home love the guy.  He's boosting that he
> > will be re-elected from jail.
>
> When he was first elected to Congress (in the '80s, I think), he already
> was under a cloud from something shady he had done while being the local
> sheriff. It is his way. I think he may be slightly insane, but I have
> heard no one in the media or elsewhere suggest this. I just wish he were
> not a Democrat.
>
> alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 03:36:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22250
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 03:36:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED26E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 9:38:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13488250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 09:44:18 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JDiHt02865 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:44:17 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6JDne631111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:49:40
          +0200
References: <20020719033327.A0FEB827F@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020719044256.D30043@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020719033327.A0FEB827F@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020719055427.D30218@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719081718.00b34ff8@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719154940.E31045@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:49:40 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: test 3
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719081718.00b34ff8@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 08:21:10AM -0400

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 08:21:10AM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
= At 05:54 AM 7/19/2002 +0200, steph wrote:
=
= >You'll see that there are 19 spam reports on 103 in the past 5
= >days,  and if you type in 101, there are none.  If the mail
= >is going out randomly,  they'd both have the same amount of listed spam
= >reports.
=
= Umm, no.  You may be correct, but not for the reason you give.  If the
= servers are being used randomly, then there is no particular reason for the
= spam reports to be distributed evenly.  It's the coin-flipping thing---it
= <is> possible to hit 19 straight heads (or tails).
=
= cwv

I wasn't clear.  Against 101 there are no spam reports in the
last 7 days in a sample traffic of 1446 mails.  For the 103, in a
sample traffic of 1184 mails there are 19 spam reports.  I can't
find a definition of what they're sampling in the sample
traffic.  The spam reports come from humans.  Given spamcop
weighting this gives a threshold of .042


But that still gives us the possibility of 19 hits, doesn't it.  Aargh.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 03:50:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22340
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 03:50:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00142BF4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 9:58:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13489250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 09:58:26 -0400
Received: from lisa1.theglobeandmail.com (lisa1.workopolis.com [199.246.67.141]
          (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JDwQt05249 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          09:58:26 -0400
Received: from chicodeb1.theglobeandmail.com (unknown [192.168.41.1]) by
          lisa1.theglobeandmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B0DBF2F030 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:58:25 -0400 (EDT)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <16038413.1027087104738.JavaMail.www@chicodeb1.theglobeandmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:58:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: BrP <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Subject:      An article from globeandmail.com
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

BrP (prbarfoo@library.syr.edu) thought you would be interested in this article from http://www.globeandmail.com

creative police work

Get today's news delivered to your in-box.  Sign up for our daily News Update!
http://www.globeandmail.com/newsletter/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

An article from www.globeandmail.com, Thursday, July 18, 2002

Long arm of the law squeegees your windshield

By ALLISON LAWLOR
Globe and Mail Update



 B.C. motorists beware  the next squeegee kid who offers to wash your windshield may be a Mountie.

 RCMP in the Vancouver suburb of Burnaby are posing as window washers at major intersections in an attempt to catch drivers who are breaking the law by not wearing a seat belt.

 The covert traffic operation called "Operation Squeegee" was launched on Tuesday and has so far wielded positive results.

 In a four-hour period this week, officers issued 90 tickets. "It's been very successful," Constable Phil Reid told globeandmail.com on Thursday.

 During the course of the operation, an undercover officer, dressed in shorts, sneakers or even ripped jeans, approaches a car to wash the window and looks inside to see if all the seat belts are properly fastened. If they are not, the officer then radios a colleague in uniform who stops the car nearby and issues a ticket if necessary. It is an $86 fine for not wearing a seat belt, Constable Reid said.

 While offering windshield washing to vehicles is illegal in Burnaby, Constable Reid said police often break laws during the course of their work in order to enforce other laws.

 Life as a "squeegee officer" hasn't been easy for the undercover police officers, he said. Officers have had to wash windows, endure name calling, been spat at and told to get a job. They have also received cigarettes and donations for their services.

 Constable Reid said that all money collected by the undercover officers will be donated to a local food bank. "Operation Squeegee" is expected to run throughout the summer.


Visit www.globeandmail.com for breaking news and financial tools.

News: http://www.globeandmail.com
Mutual Funds: http://www.globefund.com
Stocks: http://www.globeinvestor.com
Careers: http://www.globecareers.com
ROBTv: http://www.robtv.com
ROB Magazine: http://www.robmagazine.com
Technology: http://www.globetechnology.com
Wheels: http://www.globemegawheels.com
Books: http://www.globebooks.com

Copyright 2002 | Bell Globemedia Interactive Inc.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 04:30:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA22606
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 04:30:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED2C3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:32:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13493005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 10:38:23 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JEcMt14689 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:38:22 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6JEhjK31201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:43:45
          +0200
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719164345.A31184@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:43:45 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      spam slurp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bethany:
= I have never been in H., hence do not know whether attractions
= justify price. I thought someone might have an opinion.


"Are the tourist attractions listed on the Helsinkicard website
worth their price" is a qualitatively different question than, "does
no one know whether the Helsinki card is a good deal?"

My opinion is that on my first trip to any city, I am very likely
to not partake in ANY attraction.  I have missed most of the
attractions in
Athens
Stockholm
Oslo
Copenhagen
Florence
Venice
New York
San Francisco
Atlanta
Barcelona
Berlin
Dresden
Singapore
Prague
good God, even London I think.

So, in my opinion, you should skip the card, because certainly
you should be able to come out cheaper than the EUR 24 for the
public transportation alone.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 04:33:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA22610
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 04:33:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED2C8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:35:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13493229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 10:41:31 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JEfVt15210 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:41:31 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZI00L7V3H545@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:41:30 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D37C817.24699.CC44F@localhost>
Message-ID:  <3D3824BC.5010802@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:39:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

He does believe it helps his case, and what's more I have
every confidence in his claim that he can be elected from
jail.  You simply have to understand Youngstown.



Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

> There are certain <public figures> that leave me wondering just
> what they're thinking about how they are presenting themselves. Is
> it his intention to look like a belligerent fool? I can't imagine that his
> behavior could be perceived by anyone (himself included) as
> helping his case.
>
> BrP
>
>
>>Bribery?  Fraud?  Tax Evasion?
>>
>>Come on now.  I guess we all know he's
>>gotta go because of his hairdo.
>>
>>                  - D. M.
>>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 04:35:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA22618
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 04:35:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED2CF0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:37:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13493571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 10:43:16 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JEhFt15991 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:43:16 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZI00LFX3K33E@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:43:15 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <000e01c22f15$5f80f220$360332d1@0018079268>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719092900.009fb260@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D381547.50EF2A07@valstar.net>
Message-ID:  <3D382526.9050207@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:41:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> bonniev wrote:
>
>>It appears that his people back home love the guy.  He's boosting that he
>>will be re-elected from jail.
>>
>
> When he was first elected to Congress (in the '80s, I think), he already
> was under a cloud from something shady he had done while being the local
> sheriff. It is his way. I think he may be slightly insane, but I have
> heard no one in the media or elsewhere suggest this. I just wish he were
> not a Democrat.


Taking bribes from the mob, which he still does -- most
notably the DeBartolo's, who build malls and own (or just
sold I think) the San Francisco 49'ers.





--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:05:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22815
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:05:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001433FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:12:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13496735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:12:40 -0400
Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFCet23151 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:12:40 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.152.1116b004 (25915) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul
          2002 11:12:30 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <152.1116b004.2a698644@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:12:04 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/19/2002 8:30:29 AM Central Daylight Time,
bonniev@PANAX.COM writes:

<<
It appears that his people back home love the guy.  He's boosting that he
will be re-elected from jail.

>>

Yes, they do.  He represents a very depressed area of Ohio, and he gave
them hope.

Ohio's had a number of colorful politicians, from Harding to Ralph Perk
(Mayor of Cleveland, who used to appear on the Morning Exchange and
talk about bowling), to the Kucinich brothers  (Dennis was mayor when
Cleveland defaulted on its loans), to Traficant.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:05:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22820
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:05:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED3095@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:07:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13496760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:12:52 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFCqt23195 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:12:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 85F477F76; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 08:12:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719151251.85F477F76@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:12:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D380BFB.A6202CCA@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 19,
              2002  8:54:19 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > As long as you didn't think my mind was going.:)
>
> The new Land's End catalogue has a nice basic dress, jacket, slacks, and
> skirt available in four colors (navy, grey, and two others I forget),
> that come in Petite XL. XL is said to be for sizes 18-20, and Petite is
> below 5'3". The prices seem reasonable--$32-$45 for the various pieces.

What part of "I'm not buying interview clothes from a catalogue" don't
you understand, Alyce?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:11:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22869
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:11:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED3123@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:13:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13497178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:19:16 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFJGt24299 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:19:16 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.42]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZI56001.04I for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:18:00 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <115.14aed0e1.2a68f0bb@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D382DCD.8E511D54@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:18:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nick Parks' Sheep
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Evelyn Duncan wrote:

> Oh, I like them and would love to see more commercials with them.

    He also does the Chevron commercials, but perhaps that's not your
market.

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:11:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22873
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:11:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0014349A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:19:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13497219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:19:38 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFJct24372 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:19:38 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust161.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.163]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005365748@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:19:37 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000e01c22f15$5f80f220$360332d1@0018079268>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719092900.009fb260@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D381547.50EF2A07@valstar.net>
            <20020719154717.D31045@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D382E1D.BEDA195B@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:19:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:
>
>
> I heard he's not anymore.  BBC said he's an independant.

Well, that's something good.

alyce


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:15:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22891
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:15:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED3183@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:17:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13497534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:22:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFMnt25049 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:22:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BF3FF7F76; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 08:22:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719152248.BF3FF7F76@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:22:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Nick Parks' Sheep
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D382DCD.8E511D54@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at
              "Jul 19, 2002  8:18:38 am"

John Williams said:
> Evelyn Duncan wrote:
> > Oh, I like them and would love to see more commercials with them.
>
>     He also does the Chevron commercials, but perhaps that's not your
> market.

Sheep? Oh, the *cars*!!!!! I didn't know that was him, but I really
like them.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:16:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22899
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:16:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00143524@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:24:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13497814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:24:13 -0400
Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFODt25748 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:24:13 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.91.2030cfaa (25915) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul
          2002 11:24:11 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <91.2030cfaa.2a69891a@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:24:10 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Nick Parks' Sheep
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/19/2002 10:19:21 AM Central Daylight Time,
williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU writes:

<<
    He also does the Chevron commercials, but perhaps that's not your
market.


>>

No, it's not; what are they like?  I really haven't paid attention to gasoline
commercials since Gary Burghoff quit being the BP Guy.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:22:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22943
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:22:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED32F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:24:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13498831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:30:36 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFUZt27984 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:30:35 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust161.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.163]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004056079@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:30:22 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020719151251.85F477F76@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3830A1.FEA934C2@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:30:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> alyce cresap said:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> > >
> > > As long as you didn't think my mind was going.:)
> >
> > The new Land's End catalogue has a nice basic dress, jacket, slacks, and
> > skirt available in four colors (navy, grey, and two others I forget),
> > that come in Petite XL. XL is said to be for sizes 18-20, and Petite is
> > below 5'3". The prices seem reasonable--$32-$45 for the various pieces.
>
> What part of "I'm not buying interview clothes from a catalogue" don't
> you understand, Alyce?

My post was informational only. It did not include any solicitation nor
advice. The other colors are bright khaki, claret, black, and brown.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:24:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22956
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:24:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED330A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:26:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13498895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:32:10 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFWAt28222 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:32:10 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7292F8074; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 08:32:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719153209.7292F8074@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:32:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3830A1.FEA934C2@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 19,
              2002 11:30:41 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > alyce cresap said:
> > > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > >
> > > > As long as you didn't think my mind was going.:)
> > >
> > > The new Land's End catalogue has a nice basic dress, jacket, slacks, and
> > > skirt available in four colors (navy, grey, and two others I forget),
> > > that come in Petite XL. XL is said to be for sizes 18-20, and Petite is
> > > below 5'3". The prices seem reasonable--$32-$45 for the various pieces.
> >
> > What part of "I'm not buying interview clothes from a catalogue" don't
> > you understand, Alyce?
>
> My post was informational only. It did not include any solicitation nor
> advice. The other colors are bright khaki, claret, black, and brown.

How nice for them.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:27:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22981
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:27:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED3375@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:29:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13499198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:34:48 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFYlt28769 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:34:47 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6JFeB431347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:40:11
          +0200
References: <3D37C817.24699.CC44F@localhost> <3D3824BC.5010802@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719174011.A31332@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:40:11 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3824BC.5010802@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Fri,
              Jul 19, 2002 at 09:39:56AM -0500

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 09:39:56AM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
= He does believe it helps his case, and what's more I have
= every confidence in his claim that he can be elected from
= jail.  You simply have to understand Youngstown.
=
=

That is, more or less, what that guy on the bbc (who was a
reporter in OH) was saying.  He DOES represent his constituents.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:32:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23030
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:32:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED3433@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:34:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13500022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:39:57 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFdvt30743 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:39:57 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6JFjKS31356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:45:20
          +0200
References: <3D380BFB.A6202CCA@valstar.net>
            <20020719151251.85F477F76@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719174520.B31332@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:45:20 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719151251.85F477F76@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 08:12:51AM -0700

=
= What part of "I'm not buying interview clothes from a catalogue" don't
= you understand, Alyce?
=
= Karen


Do you buy any stuff from catalogues?  If you had had stuff in
your closet already would you have worn it to an interview?  If
that stuff in your closet that you already had and was
appropriate for an interview came from a catalogue would you
automatically not wear it?

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:36:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23037
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:36:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0014377C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:43:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13500447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:43:47 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFhlt31712 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:43:47 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZI00LYD6CY2A@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:43:47 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <152.1116b004.2a698644@aol.com>
Message-ID:  <3D383355.1080206@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:42:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Evelyn Duncan wrote:

> In a message dated 07/19/2002 8:30:29 AM Central Daylight Time,
> bonniev@PANAX.COM writes:
>
> <<
> It appears that his people back home love the guy.  He's boosting that he
> will be re-elected from jail.
>
>
>
> Yes, they do.  He represents a very depressed area of Ohio, and he gave
> them hope.
>


I would argue that he is a leading cause of that continuing
depression.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:39:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23052
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:39:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED34EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:41:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13500689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:46:47 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFklt32331 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:46:47 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust161.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.163]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004056412@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:46:41 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020719153209.7292F8074@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D383473.26C532B@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:46:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> How nice for them.

You are being snotty, Karen.

For poison oak itching, there is hydrocortisone cream (1%), which is the
highest you can get without a prescription. Or, Rhuli gel (in a tube)
and Rhuli spray. I use both hydrocortisone and Rhuli products on various
itches. Usually if one doesn't work, the others will. The spray and gel
have different ingredients from each other.

Please note: This is for informational purposes only, and is not
intended as a solicitatioon nor advice.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:39:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23056
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:39:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001437E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:47:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13500754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:47:30 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFlTt32533 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:47:29 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.42]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZI6H602.EAG for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:46:18 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <91.2030cfaa.2a69891a@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D383476.F9929C35@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:47:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nick Parks' Sheep
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Evelyn Duncan wrote:

> No, it's not; what are they like?  I really haven't paid attention to gasoline
> commercials since Gary Burghoff quit being the BP Guy.

    Nick Park cars extolling some mouse milk additive called Tektron, which is
probably the latest incarnation of Tekrolene.  Much more "Creature Comforts" than
"Wallace & Gromit".

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:40:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23064
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:40:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED3502@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:42:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13500784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:47:48 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFllt32624 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:47:48 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-94.panax.com
          [65.114.190.94]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JFlkj21426 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          11:47:46 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D380BFB.A6202CCA@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719114610.00a08640@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:47:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719151251.85F477F76@yellow.rahul.net>

> > The new Land's End catalogue has a nice basic dress, jacket, slacks, and
> > skirt available in four colors (navy, grey, and two others I forget),
> > that come in Petite XL. XL is said to be for sizes 18-20, and Petite is
> > below 5'3". The prices seem reasonable--$32-$45 for the various pieces.
>
>What part of "I'm not buying interview clothes from a catalogue" don't
>you understand, Alyce?      --Karen

The same part of "I don't look good in tailored clothing" that she doesn't
understand.  You should email Alyce a picture of yourself, Karen so that
she can get it out of her mind that you are a skinny, petite woman with abs
of steel.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:41:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23095
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:41:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED351A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:43:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13500860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:48:47 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6JFmlt00314 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          11:48:47 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6JFmk4128882 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul
          2002 11:48:47 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEKCFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:47:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      FW: Some things are beyond parody
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I'm speechless.

Sandra

> -----Original Message-----
> From: reavis [mailto:reavis@adobe.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 8:18 AM
> To: sandra@maximumsentence.com
> Subject: Some things are beyond parody
>
>
> http://www.hatsofmeat.com/HatsofMeat/index.html
>
>
> Marc
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:41:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23099
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:41:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00143812@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:49:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13499798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:49:07 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFd6t30240 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:39:06 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6JFd5Uh027991 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:39:06 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207191138240.11079-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:39:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: spam slurp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719164345.A31184@yoccoz.multinix.com>

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, steph sent substantive information in response to my
query.

Thank you, Steph!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:41:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23109
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:41:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00143827@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:49:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13500953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:49:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFnVt00460 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:49:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 31DB47CED; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 08:49:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719154931.31DB47CED@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:49:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719174520.B31332@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              19, 2002  5:45:20 pm"

steph said:
> Do you buy any stuff from catalogues?

I have, in the past, and in the most recent past it all had to be
returned. I don't have a catalog body.

> If you had had stuff in
> your closet already would you have worn it to an interview?

That's what I did.

> If
> that stuff in your closet that you already had and was
> appropriate for an interview came from a catalogue would you
> automatically not wear it?

Of course not. But I don't have any money to waste, and catalogue
shopping for something that *fits* is a waste of time and money for
me.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:42:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23122
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:42:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED3549@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:44:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13501058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:50:36 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFoat00834 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:50:36 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust161.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.163]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005366375@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:50:34 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <16038413.1027087104738.JavaMail.www@chicodeb1.theglobeandmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D38355A.733C68E3@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:50:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: An article from globeandmail.com
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

BrP wrote:
>
> BrP (prbarfoo@library.syr.edu) thought you would be interested in this article from http://www.globeandmail.com
>
> creative police work

Which article? There are so many...

alyce


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:43:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23126
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:43:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED354F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:45:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13501082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:50:53 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFort00881 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:50:53 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-94.panax.com
          [65.114.190.94]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JFopj21989 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          11:50:52 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020719153209.7292F8074@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719114918.00a13d80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:50:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D383473.26C532B@valstar.net>

>For poison oak itching, there is hydrocortisone cream (1%), which is the
>highest you can get without a prescription. Or, Rhuli gel (in a tube)
>alyce

Someone gave us a tube of Rhuli gel at our going-away-from-Tennessee and
moving-to-Maine party.  I like the Benadryl stick better.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:43:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23130
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:43:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED3552@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:45:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13501095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:51:27 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6JFpRt00941 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          11:51:27 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6JFpR4324328 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul
          2002 11:51:27 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEKDFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:50:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <152.1116b004.2a698644@aol.com>

Wasn't Jerry Springer the Mayor of Cincinatti or Cleveland?

Sandra

> Ohio's had a number of colorful politicians, from Harding to Ralph Perk
> (Mayor of Cleveland, who used to appear on the Morning Exchange and
> talk about bowling), to the Kucinich brothers  (Dennis was mayor when
> Cleveland defaulted on its loans), to Traficant.
>
> Evelyn Duncan
> brandykitt@aol.com
>
> Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:44:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23134
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:44:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED3561@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:46:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13501157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:52:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFqFt01123 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:52:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3D7C182D1; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 08:52:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719155214.3D7C182D1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:52:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D383473.26C532B@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 19,
              2002 11:46:59 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > How nice for them.
>
> You are being snotty, Karen.

Yes, I am. How clever of you to catch on.

> For poison oak itching, there is hydrocortisone cream (1%), which is the
> highest you can get without a prescription.

Doesn't work and isn't good for your skin.

> Or, Rhuli gel (in a tube)
> and Rhuli spray.

Those were bought by Band-Aid.

> Usually if one doesn't work, the others will. The spray and gel
> have different ingredients from each other.

Thanks. If I have time this afternoon, I'll check it out. I couldn't
find benadryl spray, and I bought a stupid gel, but that doesn't work
as well, it's messy, and now I can't find it anyway.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:44:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23138
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:44:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED3568@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:46:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13501175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:52:20 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFqJt01148 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:52:19 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06192 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:52:17 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02
          11:52:19 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02 11:52:11 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D37FD63.23115.DCFF70@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:52:04 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: An article from globeandmail.com
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D38355A.733C68E3@valstar.net>

>
> Which article? There are so many...
>
> alyce

Scroll down alyce - the entire text of the article is in the message

Brp








>
>
> --
> alyce cresap, books & ephemera
> po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
> 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
> http://www.alybooks.com
> charter member: IOBA
> independent on-line booksellers association
> selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:45:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23147
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:45:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED3591@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:47:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13501267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:53:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFrBt01354 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:53:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 53B6B82C2; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 08:53:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719155311.53B6B82C2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:53:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719114610.00a08640@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 19, 2002 11:47:19 am"

bonniev said:
> she can get it out of her mind that you are a skinny, petite woman with abs
> of steel.

In my mind I am.:)

Well, not skinny.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:47:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23151
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:47:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED35D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:49:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13501489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:54:48 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFsmt01788 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:54:48 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2B2EE7F7F; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 08:54:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719155447.2B2EE7F7F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:54:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719114918.00a13d80@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 19, 2002 11:50:24 am"

bonniev said:
> Someone gave us a tube of Rhuli gel at our going-away-from-Tennessee and
> moving-to-Maine party.  I like the Benadryl stick better.

If you use benadryl stick on poison oak, does that mean that the next
time you have a mosquito bite that you'll give yourself poison oak, too?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:51:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23196
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:51:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED3645@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:53:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13501901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:58:57 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFwvt02792 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:58:57 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust161.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.163]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004056673@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:58:57 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D380BFB.A6202CCA@valstar.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719114610.00a08640@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D383750.C8C8DB3C@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:59:12 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> The same part of "I don't look good in tailored clothing" that she doesn't
> understand.

I have seen a picture recently and have revised my mind's eye view.
However, I maintain that tailored clothing in a plain color would look
good on Karen. If a man were Karen's size, would he eschew suits? No.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:51:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23200
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:51:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED3646@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:53:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13500873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 11:58:58 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JFmwt00345 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:48:58 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C719372F7 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:48:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6JFmvZ60815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:48:57
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D3765FB.4050108@swbell.net>
            <4.2.2.20020718190951.00a2b290@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D377A2B.7040405@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719104857.A58257@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:48:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rita's and  Karen's minds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D377A2B.7040405@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Thu,
              Jul 18, 2002 at 09:32:11PM -0500

On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:32:11PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
> Betty wrote:
> > At 06:14 PM 7/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >> Rita Chapman said:
> >> > Karen Kay wrote:
> >> > > Rita Chapman said:
> >> > >>Karen Kay wrote:
> >> > >>>Karen Kay said:
> >> > >>>>Rita Chapman said:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>>Yes. Both dressy and casual.  Kohl's really caters to little
> >> > >>>>>old ladies.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>Yes, they do.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>Hm. Well, next time I go to Home Depot, I'll look at their clothes.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>(They are next door to each other.)
> >> > >>
> >> > >>I'm glad you clarified that.  I thought my mind was going again.
> >> > >
> >> > > As long as you didn't think my mind was going.:)
> >> >
> >> >         Karen, Karen, Karen.  It's all about *me*.
> >>
> >> I know--and let me say, I don't care if YOUR mind is going!
> >
> > You don't?  It really is about you?
>
>         I feel so... oh, where is that Tushar when you need him *sniff*.

Rita,

You are right and Karen is wrong.

Thanks

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:55:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23207
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:55:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED36C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:57:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13502349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:03:38 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JG3bt03776 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:03:37 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust161.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.163]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004056777@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:03:32 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D37FD63.23115.DCFF70@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D383863.1E9C64E6@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:03:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: An article from globeandmail.com
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> Scroll down alyce - the entire text of the article is in the message

Sorry. I leapt before I looked.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:56:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23228
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:56:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED36D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:58:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13502403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:04:18 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JG4It03938 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:04:18 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-94.panax.com
          [65.114.190.94]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JG4Hj24048 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          12:04:17 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719114918.00a13d80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719120329.00a16090@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:03:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719155447.2B2EE7F7F@yellow.rahul.net>

>If you use benadryl stick on poison oak, does that mean that the next
>time you have a mosquito bite that you'll give yourself poison oak, too?
>Karen

Hmmm.   I have never pondered on that question.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:56:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23232
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:56:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001439AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:04:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13502409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:04:19 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JG4Jt03948 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:04:19 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.42]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZI79801.S5D for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:03:08 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000e01c22f15$5f80f220$360332d1@0018079268>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719092900.009fb260@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D381547.50EF2A07@valstar.net>
            <20020719154717.D31045@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D383865.794891CF@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:03:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> I heard he's not anymore.  BBC said he's an independant.

    The Beeb is in error.

http://www.arizonarepublic.com/news/articles/0719traficant19.html

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 05:59:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23259
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 05:59:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED371D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:01:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13502629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:07:17 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JG7Ht04523 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:07:17 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust161.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.163]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005366784@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:07:15 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020719155447.2B2EE7F7F@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D383943.478FA6B4@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:07:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>

> If you use benadryl stick on poison oak, does that mean that the next
> time you have a mosquito bite that you'll give yourself poison oak, too?

Did you say that you have a college degree?

alyce
>
> Karen


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:01:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23271
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 06:01:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED3768@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:03:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13502829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:09:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JG9aF04984 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:09:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id ACEA47E04; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 09:09:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719160935.ACEA47E04@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:09:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D383750.C8C8DB3C@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 19,
              2002 11:59:12 am"

alyce cresap said:
> However, I maintain that tailored clothing in a plain color would look
> good on Karen.

If 'tailored' doesn't mean blazers or notched colors, then I agree
with you. Unfortunately, one so often implies the other.

While a man may not eschew suits, he may certainly look odd in them.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:02:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23292
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 06:02:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00143A4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:10:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13502897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:10:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JGAWF05137 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:10:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C0ED881B3; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 09:10:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719161031.C0ED881B3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:10:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rita's and  Karen's minds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719104857.A58257@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Jul 19,
              2002 10:48:57 am"

Tushar Samant said:
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:32:11PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
> > Betty wrote:
> > > At 06:14 PM 7/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >> Rita Chapman said:
> > >> > Karen Kay wrote:
> > >> > > Rita Chapman said:
> > >> > >>Karen Kay wrote:
> > >> > >>>Karen Kay said:
> > >> > >>>>Rita Chapman said:
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>>>Yes. Both dressy and casual.  Kohl's really caters to little
> > >> > >>>>>old ladies.
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>Yes, they do.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>>Hm. Well, next time I go to Home Depot, I'll look at their clothes.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>(They are next door to each other.)
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>I'm glad you clarified that.  I thought my mind was going again.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > As long as you didn't think my mind was going.:)
> > >> >
> > >> >         Karen, Karen, Karen.  It's all about *me*.
> > >>
> > >> I know--and let me say, I don't care if YOUR mind is going!
> > >
> > > You don't?  It really is about you?
> >
> >         I feel so... oh, where is that Tushar when you need him *sniff*.
>
> Rita,
>
> You are right and Karen is wrong.

You are so obsessed with Rita. (Sorry, no time to make a web page.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:03:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23310
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 06:03:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED3797@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:05:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13502961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:11:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JGB8F05224 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:11:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 530D981B3; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 09:11:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719161108.530D981B3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:11:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D383943.478FA6B4@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 19,
              2002 12: 7:31 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
>
> > If you use benadryl stick on poison oak, does that mean that the next
> > time you have a mosquito bite that you'll give yourself poison oak, too?
>
> Did you say that you have a college degree?

Three or four of them, I forget.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:05:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23320
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 06:05:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED37C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:07:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13503109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:13:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JGD8F05525 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:13:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2299D7E04; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 09:13:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719161308.2299D7E04@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:13:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      I just looked at my read mail
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

And Rita, I don't see how you can deny that it's all about me. I'm in
more subject headers than you are.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:16:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23383
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 06:16:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED38E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:18:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13503991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:23:47 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JGNkF07271 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:23:46 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust161.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.163]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005367044@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:18:07 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020719160935.ACEA47E04@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D383BCE.2F4F4AFA@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:18:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> alyce cresap said:
> > However, I maintain that tailored clothing in a plain color would look
> > good on Karen.
>
> If 'tailored' doesn't mean blazers or notched colors, then I agree
> with you. Unfortunately, one so often implies the other.

Tailored does not mean blazers and notched collars to me. In fact,
neither even occurs to me when I think of tailored clothes. I wear
tailored clothes exclusively when "dressing up," with no blazers nor
notched collars. (correction: I do have one navy blue blazer with
notched collar, but it has a moth hole in the sleeve, so I only wear it
where it does not matter).

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:19:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23421
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 06:19:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED3905@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:21:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13504146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:26:59 -0400
Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JGQxF07674 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:26:59 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.111.155fd137 (2522) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul
          2002 12:26:51 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <111.155fd137.2a6997ca@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:26:50 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/19/2002 10:51:46 AM Central Daylight Time,
Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM writes:

<<
Wasn't Jerry Springer the Mayor of Cincinatti or Cleveland?


>>

Cincinnati.  Oklahoma's politicians are dull compared to Ohio's.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:26:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23443
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 06:26:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED398A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:28:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13504644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:33:47 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JGXlF08882 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:33:47 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-36.panax.com
          [65.114.190.36]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JGXkj29244 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          12:33:46 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719114918.00a13d80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719123025.00b54738@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:33:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719155447.2B2EE7F7F@yellow.rahul.net>

At 08:54 AM 7/19/2002 -0700, karen wrote:

>If you use benadryl stick on poison oak, does that mean that the next
>time you have a mosquito bite that you'll give yourself poison oak, too?

Benadryl also markets an anti-itch cream with essentially the same
formulation, which would avoid the problem you pose.  The itch stick is
simply a handy way to dispense the stuff on insect bites.   Caveat: it
still basically is an anithistamine.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 07:34:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23916
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 07:34:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED3FEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:36:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13509838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 13:41:49 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JHfmF21522 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:41:48 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6JHlCm31561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:47:12
          +0200
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719194712.A31550@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:47:12 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      spam slurp2
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bethany:
= I have never been in H., hence do not know whether attractions
= justify price. I thought someone might have an opinion.


"Are the tourist attractions listed on the Helsinkicard website
worth their price" is a qualitatively different question than,
"does no one know whether the Helsinki card is a good deal?"

My opinion is that I just love going to museums and taking boat
trips and really seeing as much of a city's attractions as I
possibly can while I'm there.  Usually I can squeeze in four
things during the day if I get out when things open, and plan on
something for the evening.  When I'm on vacation in a strange new
city, I'm usually not too worried about spending money, because
I'm doing things I'd never do if I was home, and besides, when's
the next time I'm actually going to be in Florence or Glasgow
anyway.  I'm especially fond of boat trips, and will pretty much
take one if it's there.  And I always ride the metro if there is
one.  I really liked the metro in Vienna.  Plus even though I
have to spend some money on some things, it's really generally a
good value, because think of how much all those discounts add up
to.  And it's so nice to have a day pass for the public
transportation instead of worrying whether I've read the
instructions for how to validate my ticket correctly and whether
I'm going to run into the transport police.

So, in my opinion, you really ought to get that discount card,
because it looks like a great deal.  You'll probably make up for
it alone just using the transportation and going to one or two
attractions.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 07:37:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23951
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 07:37:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4062@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:39:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13509297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 13:45:11 -0400
Received: from chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net (chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net
          [199.171.54.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JHZBF20420 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          13:35:11 -0400
Received: from ludpxs01 by chi6sosrv13.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked
          as: [63.110.228.250]) id QQmyfe00344 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:35:10 GMT
Received: FROM ludmex01.barco.com BY ludpxs01 ; Fri Jul 19 13:44:11 2002 -0400
Received: by ludmex01.barco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <KFC89W8B>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:35:21 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Message-ID:  <614780D1A9E7D21195970060976A10C177B754@ludmex01.barco.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:35:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Hartfield, Adam" <AAHA@ESKO-GRAPHICS.COM>
Subject:      Pete and Ann
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Have you gotten the CDs I sent on Monday yet?

--Adam

--
Adam Hartfield | aaha@esko-graphics.com
Senior Technical Writer for the ArtiosCAD family of products
Esko-Graphics, 40 Westover Road, Ludlow MA 01056 USA
(413) 583-4142 | http://www.esko-graphics.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 07:44:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24030
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 07:44:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED410F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:46:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13510791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 13:51:49 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JHpnF23538 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:51:49 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6JHvDC31610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:57:13
          +0200
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719195713.A31607@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:57:13 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://www.hillnews.com/050802/traficant.shtm

(May 8)
In a move that could hurt Democratic prospects of holding the
seat, convicted felon Rep. James Traficant (D-Ohio) filed hours
before a Monday deadline to run as an Independent in the newly
drawn 17th Congressional District.

So, is he a democrat now, but won't be in November?

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 07:58:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24150
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 07:58:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001445D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:05:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13511171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 14:05:42 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f203.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.203]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JHtgF24373 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:55:42 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          19 Jul 2002 10:55:36 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:55:36 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2002 17:55:36.0699 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[7C7784B0:01C22F4D]
Message-ID:  <F203TAqvZKjaFLOsrpm00010d5b@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:55:36 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Are you over batfest, Karen?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

After years of reading about the lovely hikes in Acadia National
Park, gorgeous views of the ocean, delicious dinners at Havana,
great weather and Yankee hospitality, it's time to pay a visit
and check out this piece of paradise for ourselves.

The venue for July 4th, 2003, is **Bar Harbour, Maine**.

-rashmi "Natalie made me god"


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 08:04:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24200
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 08:04:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4334@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:06:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13512688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 14:12:20 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JICKF28046 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:12:20 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26537 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:12:20 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02
          14:12:20 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02 14:12:10 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D381E33.9897.15D2DCE@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:12:03 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Are you over batfest, Karen?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F203TAqvZKjaFLOsrpm00010d5b@hotmail.com>

I'm marking my calendar (in pencil).

BrP




> After years of reading about the lovely hikes in Acadia National
> Park, gorgeous views of the ocean, delicious dinners at Havana,
> great weather and Yankee hospitality, it's time to pay a visit
> and check out this piece of paradise for ourselves.
>
> The venue for July 4th, 2003, is **Bar Harbour, Maine**.
>
> -rashmi "Natalie made me god"
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 08:12:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24249
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 08:12:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4445@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:14:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13513671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 14:20:16 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JIKGF29918 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:20:16 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6JIKFf17224
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:20:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F203TAqvZKjaFLOsrpm00010d5b@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D385A31.38E03000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:28:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Are you over batfest, Karen?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rashmi Murthy wrote:
>
> After years of reading about the lovely hikes in Acadia National
> Park, gorgeous views of the ocean, delicious dinners at Havana,
> great weather and Yankee hospitality, it's time to pay a visit
> and check out this piece of paradise for ourselves.
>
> The venue for July 4th, 2003, is **Bar Harbour, Maine**.
>
> -rashmi "Natalie made me god"

I already have reservations!  We tentatively plan to visit Boston first
and take the train up to Portland where we will rent a car.  Or maybe
the plane will be cheaper to just fly into Providence.

Hey, there is even camping there!  I checked out a few places after
SnowBash.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 08:13:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24266
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 08:13:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001447E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:21:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13513731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 14:21:18 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JILIF30002 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:21:18 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-36.panax.com
          [65.114.190.36]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JILGj17033 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          14:21:16 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719141023.00b55820@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:21:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719195713.A31607@yoccoz.multinix.com>

At 07:57 PM 7/19/2002 +0200, steph wrote:

>So, is he a democrat now, but won't be in November?

Presumably, once he registered his candidacy as an Independent, he lost his
other affiliation, but I don't think that it makes any difference.  Given
that the House of Representatives is not evenly split, his party
affiliation or lack of the same does nothing to change the balance.  The
New York Times this morning noted that although he has held his seat as a
Democrat, he often has sided with the Republican majority.  Leaders of both
parties (in Ohio, I presume) have called on him to resign.  I suspect that
the Demos are relieved to have him gone and most all politicians in Ohio
consider him an embarrassment, whether or not they are willing to say so
publicly.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 08:39:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24421
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 08:39:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00144A68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:47:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13514930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 14:47:27 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f147.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.147]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JIbQF00342 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:37:26 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          19 Jul 2002 11:37:21 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 18:37:21 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2002 18:37:21.0478 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[516E7660:01C22F53]
Message-ID:  <F147eZS9tQ5Vw6PfgQ100010b36@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:37:21 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita:

>What can I say?  Rashmi has spoken!

I'm taking -The Corrections- on my flight tomorrow. I have
a connection (ugh) thro' JFK so I should have plenty of
time to get into it. I'm looking forward to finding Doris M.
in the book.

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 08:40:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24425
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 08:40:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00144A75@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:47:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13514947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 14:47:57 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f79.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.79]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JIbvF00388 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:37:57 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          19 Jul 2002 11:37:52 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 18:37:51 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2002 18:37:52.0164 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[63B8C640:01C22F53]
Message-ID:  <F793sseOYqFlro9ZAqH0000b1c7@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:37:51 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Are you over batfest, Karen?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

BrP:

>I'm marking my calendar (in pencil).

Yay!

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 08:42:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24431
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 08:42:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED477D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:44:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13516318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 14:50:03 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JIo3F03608 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:50:03 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc70 ([204.127.198.53]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020719184958.TIYX24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:49:58 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc70; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:49:56 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020719184958.TIYX24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:49:56 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Are you over batfest, Karen?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

woo hoo! or should I say, woot?!

lisa
> After years of reading about the lovely hikes in Acadia National
> Park, gorgeous views of the ocean, delicious dinners at Havana,
> great weather and Yankee hospitality, it's time to pay a visit
> and check out this piece of paradise for ourselves.
>
> The venue for July 4th, 2003, is **Bar Harbour, Maine**.
>
> -rashmi "Natalie made me god"
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 08:42:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24436
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 08:42:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED477F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:44:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13516329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 14:50:13 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JIoDF03630 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:50:13 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020719185007.BHRO6023.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:50:07 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020719030325.C0C5F82C8@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719111308.023e7ec0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:46:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207182219340.2434-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

Ann Borkin writes,

>Allan sez Tecnu OAK-N-IVY  Cleansing Treatment

Good stuff, but from the web site, it looks like it needs to be used within
2-8 hours of exposure.

Hot water is supposed to work for the itching.  DON'T wash with hot water
on initial exposure, as it might open pores and let the urushiol get deeper.

But after you've got the rash, put the affected area under water as hot as
you can stand it for a minute or two.  Supposedly, the heat causes a big
histamine flush, making it worse for a bit, but then after the histamine is
depleted, you get relief for 6-12 hours.

Thank goodness it's been years since I've had poison oak rash, but I
remember this working at the time.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 08:43:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24443
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 08:43:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED479C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:45:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13516461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 14:50:49 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JIomF03946 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:50:49 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000093;
          19 Jul 02 14:50:25 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 19 Jul 02
          14:50:17 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000092; 19 Jul 02 14:50:07 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D38271F.13986.D933A524@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:50:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3765BB.4090502@swbell.net>

I'm just piggy-backing on the title here - nothing to do with the
thread. I couldn't help but chuckle at the return label on a box of
manuals from IBM:

National Literature Fulfillment Centre
Box 190
Paris, Ont.
N3L 3E7

I just knew there was a central place for all that fulfilling stuff
from the likes of Margaret Atwood, Alice Munro, Michael Ondaatje, and
so on.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 08:47:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24480
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 08:47:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4804@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:48:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13516775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 14:54:39 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JIsdF04575 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:54:39 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-54.panax.com
          [65.114.190.54]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JIsbj22806 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          14:54:37 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:54:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ah, Rashmi has declared.

Some list members, as Betty implied, have known since SnowBash when Rashmi
laid her plans and consulted with me.   I propose we call it Acadiafest
because lobsterfest is too stupid and Gangsta(Bonnie and Clyde)fest would
be misleading.

July 4th is on a Friday next year.  We'll hold a casual open house that day
here at 15 Forest Street so that meebers will have a central place to hang
out while folk partake of all the fun things to do in Bar Harbor from the
blueberry pancake breakfast to the parade to the lobster dinner to the
fireworks.

On Saturday, July 5th, we'll have some kind of party here at the
house.  Something casual involving food and drink.  July 6th we can all
meet some place for breakfast and folks can go on their way.

The best web site for reservations and information is
www.barharbormaine.com.   There are so many accommodations with all the
price ranges that we won't even bother to recommend some place in
particular.  Once you've chosen a place to stay, feel free to pass it by
Clyde or I for comment.   The town fills up in July.  I recommend having
guaranteed reservations in place by at least May.   Sooner would be better.

The nearest airport is Bangor, Maine.  There is bus transport from the
airport to Bar Harbor.  Once in Bar Harbor there is free bus transport to
just about everything on the island, including to the campgrounds and into
the Park.  Blackwoods Campground is in Acadia National Park and fills up
quickly by reservation.  It has gorgeous wooded campsites, near the ocean.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 08:47:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24484
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 08:47:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4805@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:49:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13516779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 14:54:46 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JIskF04583 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:54:46 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020719185440.QKUR29588.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:54:40 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719111208.023cd420@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:51:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: test 3
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <200207190300.g6J304t18462@listserv.cc.uga.edu>

steph writes,

>If one of you has saved Karen's delicious looking menu and
>would check the headers and see if it went through 103, then I
>will know that it is not some other list flakiness going on.

I didn't follow the discussion enough to know if this is still interesting,
but I did receive it through 103:

>Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
>         by argos.hmdns.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1)
>         id 17VCvI-0004mQ-00
>         for kaminski@ISTORI.COM; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:10:33 -0400
[...]
>Message-ID:  <20020718151024.61C338223@yellow.rahul.net>
>From:         Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>Subject:      Menu

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 08:52:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24502
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 08:52:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED487B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:54:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13517196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:00:11 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJ0BF05520 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:00:11 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6FF157C49; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:00:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719190010.6FF157C49@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:00:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D383BCE.2F4F4AFA@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 19,
              2002 12:18:22 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Tailored does not mean blazers and notched collars to me. In fact,
> neither even occurs to me when I think of tailored clothes.

You need to talk to whoever orders business type clothes for the
stores. Because all I found was those blasted notched collars.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 08:56:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24512
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 08:56:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00144C1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:04:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13517364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:04:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJ42F05893 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:04:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1A53F7E86; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:04:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719190400.1A53F7E86@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:04:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 19, 2002  2:54: 8 pm"

bonniev said:
> Some list members, as Betty implied, have known since SnowBash when Rashmi
> laid her plans and consulted with me.   I propose we call it Acadiafest
> because lobsterfest is too stupid and Gangsta(Bonnie and Clyde)fest would
> be misleading.

You don't think Batfest is stupid??? I do, because this isn't prime
bat-viewing season.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:00:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24527
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:00:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00144C6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:07:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13517577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:07:54 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJ7rF06338 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:07:53 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-54.panax.com
          [65.114.190.54]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JJ7qj25157 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          15:07:52 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:07:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719190400.1A53F7E86@yellow.rahul.net>

>You don't think Batfest is stupid??? I do, because this isn't prime
>bat-viewing season.         --Karen

But it turned out to be a perfect  name so that mem could use the "didn't
fly" thing.

Hmmm.  If we called it lobsterfest it  might be "the fest that crawled on
the bottom and cannibalized its own".


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:01:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24531
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:01:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED491E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:03:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13517661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:09:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJ9NF06569 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:09:23 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3B6297EF4; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:09:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719190923.3B6297EF4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:09:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 19, 2002  3: 7:24 pm"

bonniev said:
> But it turned out to be a perfect  name so that mem could use the "didn't
> fly" thing.

Uh-huh.

Lobsterfest goes along with Clambake.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:13:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24624
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:13:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00144D85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:20:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13518406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:20:41 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJKdF08309 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:20:41 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020719192033.TKOY26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:20:33 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719121334.02301a40@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:17:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719190923.3B6297EF4@yellow.rahul.net>

I like Bah-Hahbah-Fest.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:14:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24633
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:14:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00144D9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:21:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13518499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:21:59 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJLxF08524 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:21:59 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6JJLxd27643
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:21:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3868A8.B1A7F2C1@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:29:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Someone should start saving these informational posts. Can we put them
on the words-l web page?

Betty

bonniev wrote:
>
> Ah, Rashmi has declared.
>
> Some list members, as Betty implied, have known since SnowBash when Rashmi
> laid her plans and consulted with me.   I propose we call it Acadiafest
> because lobsterfest is too stupid and Gangsta(Bonnie and Clyde)fest would
> be misleading.
>
> July 4th is on a Friday next year.  We'll hold a casual open house that day
> here at 15 Forest Street so that meebers will have a central place to hang
> out while folk partake of all the fun things to do in Bar Harbor from the
> blueberry pancake breakfast to the parade to the lobster dinner to the
> fireworks.
>
> On Saturday, July 5th, we'll have some kind of party here at the
> house.  Something casual involving food and drink.  July 6th we can all
> meet some place for breakfast and folks can go on their way.
>
> The best web site for reservations and information is
> www.barharbormaine.com.   There are so many accommodations with all the
> price ranges that we won't even bother to recommend some place in
> particular.  Once you've chosen a place to stay, feel free to pass it by
> Clyde or I for comment.   The town fills up in July.  I recommend having
> guaranteed reservations in place by at least May.   Sooner would be better.
>
> The nearest airport is Bangor, Maine.  There is bus transport from the
> airport to Bar Harbor.  Once in Bar Harbor there is free bus transport to
> just about everything on the island, including to the campgrounds and into
> the Park.  Blackwoods Campground is in Acadia National Park and fills up
> quickly by reservation.  It has gorgeous wooded campsites, near the ocean.
>
>     --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:17:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24644
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:17:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4A6D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:19:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13518713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:25:21 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJPLF08992 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:25:21 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21836 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:25:20 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02
          15:25:21 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02 15:25:02 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <20020719190923.3B6297EF4@yellow.rahul.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D382F45.4954.19FDFAE@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:24:54 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719121334.02301a40@mail.istori.com>

Acadiafest is nice enough but it's kind of boring - not very clever.
Anybody could have an Acadiafest - or a Lobsterfest or a Bah
Habbah Fest.  We need something that describes the words-l spirit
as well as the place and/or the menu.

BrP



> I like Bah-Hahbah-Fest.
>
> Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:19:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24651
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:19:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00144E03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:26:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13518782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:26:53 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJQrF09172 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:26:53 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-36.panax.com
          [65.114.190.36]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JJQpj28654 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          15:26:51 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719151905.00b5f3f8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:22:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Lobsterfest---Not
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719190923.3B6297EF4@yellow.rahul.net>

At 12:09 PM 7/19/2002 -0700, karen wrote:

>Lobsterfest goes along with Clambake.

One could have Lobsterfest at any number of points on the New England
coast; there is only one venue for Acadiafest.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:19:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24655
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:19:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4A87@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:21:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13518788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:26:55 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJQsF09184 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:26:54 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-36.panax.com
          [65.114.190.36]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JJQrj28665 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          15:26:53 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719152432.00b53fb0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:26:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest  -- moe information
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>

At 02:54 PM 7/19/2002 -0400, bonnie wrote:

>The best web site for reservations and information is
>www.barharbormaine.com.   There are so many accommodations with all the
>price ranges that we won't even bother to recommend some place in
>particular.  Once you've chosen a place to stay, feel free to pass it by
>Clyde or I for comment.   The town fills up in July.  I recommend having
>guaranteed reservations in place by at least May.   Sooner would be better.

The website for Acadia National Park, which includes two campgrounds, is

www.nps.gov/acad/

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:20:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24659
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:20:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00144E2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:28:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13518883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:28:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJSMF09342 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:28:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AD85D7CE2; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:28:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719192821.AD85D7CE2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:28:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3868A8.B1A7F2C1@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 19,
              2002 12:29:44 pm"

Betty said:
> Someone should start saving these informational posts. Can we put them
> on the words-l web page?

I made a page for the Austinfest; we could use that.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:21:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24663
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:21:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00144E34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:28:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13518910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:28:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJSoF09370 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:28:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F30C47E7C; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:28:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719192849.F30C47E7C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:28:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D382F45.4954.19FDFAE@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              19, 2002  3:24:54 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> Acadiafest is nice enough but it's kind of boring - not very clever.
> Anybody could have an Acadiafest - or a Lobsterfest or a Bah
> Habbah Fest.  We need something that describes the words-l spirit
> as well as the place and/or the menu.

Batfest.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:21:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24667
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:21:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00144E49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:29:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13518963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:29:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJTGF09453 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:29:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 132E27E3C; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:29:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719192916.132E27E3C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:29:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest---Not
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719151905.00b5f3f8@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 19, 2002  3:22:14 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> At 12:09 PM 7/19/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
> >Lobsterfest goes along with Clambake.
>
> One could have Lobsterfest at any number of points on the New England
> coast; there is only one venue for Acadiafest.

I think the rule is the hosts don't have a say.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:22:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24671
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:22:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4ADD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:24:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13519039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:30:18 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJUIF09594 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:30:18 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23650 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:30:15 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02
          15:30:16 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02 15:29:52 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D382F45.4954.19FDFAE@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul   
            19, 2002  3:24:54 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D38306E.28879.1A466AB@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:29:50 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719192849.F30C47E7C@yellow.rahul.net>

Yeah  We already have the shirt

>
> Batfest.
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:22:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24675
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:22:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00144E6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:30:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13519052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:30:29 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJUTF09611 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:30:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C66157E5A; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:30:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719193028.C66157E5A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:30:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      DSAI round 2
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I'm going to be very busy with *er* from a few minutes from now until
who knows when. So don't make any irrevocable decisions without me.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:23:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24679
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:23:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00144E6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:30:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13519073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:30:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJUsF09658 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:30:54 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E6F2B7E7C; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 12:30:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020719193053.E6F2B7E7C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:30:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D38306E.28879.1A466AB@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              19, 2002  3:29:50 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> Yeah  We already have the shirt

I still need to order mine.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:25:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24718
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:25:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4B0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:27:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13519163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:32:47 -0400
Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJWlF09813 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:32:47 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.28.29c3f57e (4222) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          15:32:37 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <28.29c3f57e.2a69c355@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:32:37 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/19/2002 1:55:02 PM Central Daylight Time,
bonniev@PANAX.COM writes:

<<
I propose we call it Acadiafest
because lobsterfest is too stupid and Gangsta(Bonnie and Clyde)fest would
be misleading.


>>

Lobsterfest sounds like something Red Lobster would advertise.
Maybe now that Annegret is coming back, Kathie and I could go
to Red Lobster for lunch sometime; dinner is too expensive, but
lunch is just right.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:28:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24733
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:28:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4B5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:30:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13519381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:36:17 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJaHF10228 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:36:17 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-39.panax.com
          [65.114.190.39]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JJaGj30259 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          15:36:16 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719121334.02301a40@mail.istori.com>
            <20020719190923.3B6297EF4@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719153421.00a07ca0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:35:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D382F45.4954.19FDFAE@localhost>

>Acadiafest is nice enough but it's kind of boring - not very clever.
>Anybody could have an Acadiafest - or a Lobsterfest or a Bah
>Habbah Fest.  We need something that describes the words-l spirit
>as well as the place and/or the menu.      --BrP

A Celebration of the Youth of Marieeber in which she toiled at The T-Shirt
Shop in Bar Harbor, Maine   -- fest


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:29:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24737
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:29:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00144F03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:37:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13519452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:37:23 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJbMF10336 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:37:22 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-39.panax.com
          [65.114.190.39]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JJbLj30518 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          15:37:22 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719153629.00a211c0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:36:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3868A8.B1A7F2C1@uclink.berkeley.edu>

>Someone should start saving these informational posts. Can we put them
>on the words-l web page?
>Betty

That's o.k.   I'll repeat everything once a month.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:30:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24748
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:30:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4B8C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:32:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13519522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:38:21 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJcLF10489 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:38:21 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26382 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:38:20 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02
          15:38:20 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 02 15:37:55 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D382F45.4954.19FDFAE@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D383250.10370.1ABC4E2@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:37:53 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719153421.00a07ca0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

As long as it fits on the shirt

BrP


>
> A Celebration of the Youth of Marieeber in which she toiled at The T-Shirt
> Shop in Bar Harbor, Maine   -- fest
>
>
>     --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:42:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24806
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:42:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014500C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:49:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13520380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:49:44 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJniF12241 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:49:44 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6JJnbF12687 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:49:37 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207191449180.29023-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:49:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pete and Ann
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <614780D1A9E7D21195970060976A10C177B754@ludmex01.barco.com>

no (haven't seen today's mail yet)

Ann

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Hartfield, Adam wrote:

> Have you gotten the CDs I sent on Monday yet?
>
> --Adam
>
> --
> Adam Hartfield | aaha@esko-graphics.com
> Senior Technical Writer for the ArtiosCAD family of products
> Esko-Graphics, 40 Westover Road, Ludlow MA 01056 USA
> (413) 583-4142 | http://www.esko-graphics.com
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:49:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24862
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:49:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4D70@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:51:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13520952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:57:23 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJvMF13456 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:57:22 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-36.panax.com
          [65.114.190.36]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JJvLj02127 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          15:57:21 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719151905.00b5f3f8@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719155103.00b62020@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:51:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest---Not
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719192916.132E27E3C@yellow.rahul.net>

At 12:29 PM 7/19/2002 -0700, karen wrote:

>I think the rule is the hosts don't have a say.

Rules?  We don' need no steenkin rules!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:50:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24870
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:50:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4D84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:52:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13521021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 15:57:59 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JJvxF13581 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:57:59 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6JJvwQ05950 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          14:57:58 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <002301c22f5e$ca68eae0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:59:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> www.barharbormaine.com.   There are so many accommodations with all
the
> price ranges that we won't even bother to recommend some place in
> particular.  Once you've chosen a place to stay, feel free to pass it
by
> Clyde or I for comment.   >
>
>     --bonniev
>

I'm looking at Bayview Estates (I think
that's what it was).  After all, it's only
$10,000 per week.  Oh-oh.  Changed my
mind.  Just turned the TV on to CNBC
and see that the $10,000 is gone.

                            - D. M.

                         - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:54:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24913
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:54:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014516E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:02:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13521376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:02:26 -0400
Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JK2QF14325 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:02:26 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.19e.5895e80 (4222) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          16:02:19 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <19e.5895e80.2a69ca4a@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:02:18 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/19/2002 2:58:12 PM Central Daylight Time,
dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes:

<<
Changed my
mind.  Just turned the TV on to CNBC
and see that the $10,000 is gone.


>>

Yes, the Dow is the lowest it's been since Oct. 1998.
Going to watch Louis tonight to get his view on things.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:56:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24920
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:56:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4E49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:58:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13521531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:03:48 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JK3mF14681 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:03:48 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZI00L1XIEB45@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:03:47 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F203TAqvZKjaFLOsrpm00010d5b@hotmail.com>
            <3D385A31.38E03000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D387046.7030202@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:02:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Are you over batfest, Karen?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Wouldn't this be UnrealFest?

Bonnie, how long a drive is it from Boston?


Betty wrote:

> Rashmi Murthy wrote:
>
>>After years of reading about the lovely hikes in Acadia National
>>Park, gorgeous views of the ocean, delicious dinners at Havana,
>>great weather and Yankee hospitality, it's time to pay a visit
>>and check out this piece of paradise for ourselves.
>>
>>The venue for July 4th, 2003, is **Bar Harbour, Maine**.
>>
>>-rashmi "Natalie made me god"
>>
>
> I already have reservations!  We tentatively plan to visit Boston first
> and take the train up to Portland where we will rent a car.  Or maybe
> the plane will be cheaper to just fly into Providence.
>
> Hey, there is even camping there!  I checked out a few places after
> SnowBash.
>
> Betty
>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:56:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24925
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:56:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4E56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:58:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13521571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:04:11 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JK4BF14770 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:04:11 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZI00LUQIEY38@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:04:11 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D3765FB.4050108@swbell.net>
            <4.2.2.20020718190951.00a2b290@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D377A2B.7040405@swbell.net> <20020719104857.A58257@pobox.com>
Message-ID:  <3D38705E.7080806@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:02:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Rita's and  Karen's minds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:32:11PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>>Betty wrote:
>>
>>>At 06:14 PM 7/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>>
>>>>Rita Chapman said:
>>>>
>>>>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Rita Chapman said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Karen Kay said:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Rita Chapman said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Yes. Both dressy and casual.  Kohl's really caters to little
>>>>>>>>>>old ladies.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes, they do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hm. Well, next time I go to Home Depot, I'll look at their clothes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>(They are next door to each other.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm glad you clarified that.  I thought my mind was going again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>As long as you didn't think my mind was going.:)
>>>>>>
>>>>>        Karen, Karen, Karen.  It's all about *me*.
>>>>>
>>>>I know--and let me say, I don't care if YOUR mind is going!
>>>>
>>>You don't?  It really is about you?
>>>
>>        I feel so... oh, where is that Tushar when you need him *sniff*.
>>
>
> Rita,
>
> You are right and Karen is wrong.
>

Thank you for your support.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:56:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24929
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 09:56:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4E6A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:58:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13521653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:04:29 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JK4TF14915 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:04:29 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZI00LDBIFG4P@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:04:28 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020719161308.2299D7E04@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D38706F.8050908@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:02:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: I just looked at my read mail
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> And Rita, I don't see how you can deny that it's all about me. I'm in
> more subject headers than you are.:)
>


Show off!



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:02:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24984
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:02:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4ED8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:04:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13522000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:10:13 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKADF15779 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:10:13 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6JKADd20766
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:10:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020719190923.3B6297EF4@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3873F6.1DA1A65E@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:17:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> bonniev said:
> > But it turned out to be a perfect  name so that mem could use the "didn't
> > fly" thing.
>
> Uh-huh.
>
> Lobsterfest goes along with Clambake.

Who wants to go along with Clambake?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:03:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24989
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:03:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4EE3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:05:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13522030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:11:06 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKB6F27803 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:11:06 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6JKB5d21675
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:11:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020719192821.AD85D7CE2@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D38742B.4C47497B@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:18:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Betty said:
> > Someone should start saving these informational posts. Can we put them
> > on the words-l web page?
>
> I made a page for the Austinfest; we could use that.:)

How many times did you post it?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:04:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24993
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:04:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4F01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:06:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13522118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:11:55 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKBtF29444 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:11:55 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6JKBsd22227
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:11:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020719193028.C66157E5A@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D38745C.B6CC0083@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:19:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: DSAI round 2
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> I'm going to be very busy with *er* from a few minutes from now until
> who knows when. So don't make any irrevocable decisions without me.
>
Uh huh

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:07:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24997
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:07:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001452AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:15:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13522557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:14:49 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKEnF30016 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:14:49 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-33.panax.com [63.163.41.33])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKEmj04873 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:14:48 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020719190923.3B6297EF4@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719161404.009f9050@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:14:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3873F6.1DA1A65E@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> > Lobsterfest goes along with Clambake.
>
>Who wants to go along with Clambake?
>Betty

Yeah.  Waaayyy before our time.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:09:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25018
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:09:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4FD0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:11:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13522673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:16:46 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKGjF30256 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:16:45 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020719201640.XDHF24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:16:40 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020719190923.3B6297EF4@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719131150.02308ce0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:13:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719121334.02301a40@mail.istori.com>

"InnFest" is pretty good, too, but only if the accent is on the second
syllable.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:09:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25023
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:09:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4FD7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:11:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13522683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:16:57 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKGvF30275 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:16:57 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZI00LWZJ084O@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:16:56 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020719193028.C66157E5A@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D38735B.80702@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:15:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: DSAI round 2
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

TMI!!


Karen Kay wrote:

> I'm going to be very busy with *er* from a few minutes from now until
> who knows when. So don't make any irrevocable decisions without me.
>
> Karen
>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:10:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25046
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:10:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED4FF1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:12:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13522757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:18:11 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f203.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.203]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKIBF30464 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:18:11 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          19 Jul 2002 13:18:05 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri,
          19 Jul 2002 20:18:05 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2002 20:18:05.0780 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[641DC140:01C22F61]
Message-ID:  <F203KLki7HEVrJRo8OB00016d2b@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:18:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
> > Lobsterfest goes along with Clambake.
>
>Who wants to go along with Clambake?

Yeah. How 1991.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:12:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25057
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:12:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5037@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:13:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13522877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:19:39 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6JKJdF30666 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          16:19:39 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KGX00207; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:19:36 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KQX00326; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:18:31 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
            bonniev at "Jul 19, 2002  3: 7:24 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D37E71C.28438.3E2805@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:17:00 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719190923.3B6297EF4@yellow.rahul.net>

On 19 Jul 2002 at 12:09, Karen Kay wrote:

> Lobsterfest goes along with Clambake.

Somebody else will have to do the shirt then. I'm allergic to lobster.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:13:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25063
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:13:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00145325@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:20:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13522944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:20:43 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6JKKgF30855 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          16:20:42 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6JKKg4265762 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul
          2002 16:20:42 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMELEFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:19:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>

This sounds fantastic. I'm gonna pencil it in.

Sandra

> Ah, Rashmi has declared.
>
> Some list members, as Betty implied, have known since SnowBash when Rashmi
> laid her plans and consulted with me.   I propose we call it Acadiafest
> because lobsterfest is too stupid and Gangsta(Bonnie and Clyde)fest would
> be misleading.
>
> July 4th is on a Friday next year.  We'll hold a casual open
> house that day
> here at 15 Forest Street so that meebers will have a central place to hang
> out while folk partake of all the fun things to do in Bar Harbor from the
> blueberry pancake breakfast to the parade to the lobster dinner to the
> fireworks.
>
> On Saturday, July 5th, we'll have some kind of party here at the
> house.  Something casual involving food and drink.  July 6th we can all
> meet some place for breakfast and folks can go on their way.
>
> The best web site for reservations and information is
> www.barharbormaine.com.   There are so many accommodations with all the
> price ranges that we won't even bother to recommend some place in
> particular.  Once you've chosen a place to stay, feel free to pass it by
> Clyde or I for comment.   The town fills up in July.  I recommend having
> guaranteed reservations in place by at least May.   Sooner would
> be better.
>
> The nearest airport is Bangor, Maine.  There is bus transport from the
> airport to Bar Harbor.  Once in Bar Harbor there is free bus transport to
> just about everything on the island, including to the campgrounds and into
> the Park.  Blackwoods Campground is in Acadia National Park and fills up
> quickly by reservation.  It has gorgeous wooded campsites, near the ocean.
>
>
>     --bonniev
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:18:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25078
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:18:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED50DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:19:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13523351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:25:34 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKPYF31874 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:25:34 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-33.panax.com [63.163.41.33])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKPXj07163 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:25:33 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020719190923.3B6297EF4@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719162351.00a26890@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:25:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D37E71C.28438.3E2805@localhost>

>Somebody else will have to do the shirt then. I'm allergic to lobster.
>     mem

Definitely out then.  I'd love for you to do the shirt.  I'd like something
tasteful, possibly showing the outline of the mountains of Acadia.  Were
you pleased with the place that did the Batfest shirt or should we go with
some other outfit?


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:22:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25123
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:22:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED513C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:24:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13523721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:29:54 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKTrr00384 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:29:53 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-33.panax.com [63.163.41.33])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKTqj07883; Fri,
          19 Jul 2002 16:29:52 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719162616.00a21ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:29:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMELEFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

>This sounds fantastic. I'm gonna pencil it in.
>Sandra

Great!  We already have Betty and Larry as definites and this list of
possibles:

Love Judith and her Paul
Adam
Paul Barfoot
Marie
Lisa
Sandra
Rashmi
Emily
Natalie
Bookrat
Chopped Liver


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:22:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25127
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:22:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5141@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:24:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13522921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:30:15 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKKEF30809 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:20:15 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602C66594 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:20:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6JKKEX59453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:20:14
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D3765FB.4050108@swbell.net>
            <4.2.2.20020718190951.00a2b290@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D377A2B.7040405@swbell.net> <20020719104857.A58257@pobox.com>
            <3D38705E.7080806@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719152014.A58362@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:20:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rita's and  Karen's minds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D38705E.7080806@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Fri,
              Jul 19, 2002 at 03:02:38PM -0500

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 03:02:38PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
>Tushar Samant wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:32:11PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
>>>Betty wrote:
>>>>At 06:14 PM 7/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>>>>Rita Chapman said:
>>>>>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>>>>>>Rita Chapman said:
>>>>>>>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>>>>>>>>Karen Kay said:
>>>>>>>>>>Rita Chapman said:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Yes. Both dressy and casual.  Kohl's really caters to little
>>>>>>>>>>>old ladies.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Yes, they do.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hm. Well, next time I go to Home Depot, I'll look at their clothes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>(They are next door to each other.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm glad you clarified that.  I thought my mind was going again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As long as you didn't think my mind was going.:)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>        Karen, Karen, Karen.  It's all about *me*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>I know--and let me say, I don't care if YOUR mind is going!
>>>>>
>>>>You don't?  It really is about you?
>>>>
>>>        I feel so... oh, where is that Tushar when you need him *sniff*.
>>>
>>
>> Rita,
>>
>> You are right and Karen is wrong.
>>
>
>Thank you for your support.

I'm glad you clarified that.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:27:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25156
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:27:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED51A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:29:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13524028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:34:44 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6JKYir01044 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          16:34:44 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6JKYh4340122 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul
          2002 16:34:43 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOELGFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:33:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719162616.00a21ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

Can't decide if I should fly or make this my Blue Highways experience.

Sandra

> >This sounds fantastic. I'm gonna pencil it in.
> >Sandra
>
> Great!  We already have Betty and Larry as definites and this list of
> possibles:
>
> Love Judith and her Paul
> Adam
> Paul Barfoot
> Marie
> Lisa
> Sandra
> Rashmi
> Emily
> Natalie
> Bookrat
> Chopped Liver
>
>
>     --bonniev
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:28:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25178
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:28:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED51B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:30:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13524089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:36:11 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6JKaBr01193 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          16:36:11 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KGY02377; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:36:10 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KQY02210; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:36:09 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D37E71C.28438.3E2805@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D37EB40.10928.4E5391@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:34:40 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719162351.00a26890@pop3.norton.antivirus>

On 19 Jul 2002 at 16:25, bonniev wrote:

> Were you pleased with the place that did the Batfest shirt or
> should we go with some other outfit?

The CafePress arrangement is attractive because it is so quick and painless for all concerned. Nobody has to
collect orders or ship products. No deadline. Shirts can remain available indefinitely. Easy to offer items other than
shirts.

The drawback is that the process used to print the shirts imposes some real limitations. The size of the image
area is a limitation to some extent. The availability of only white and grey shirts is dictated largely by the printing
process, which uses transparent inks. Almost anything works okay on white. The grey BatFest shirt was less
successful; the underlying pattern in the grey material (essentially the same as the Block Island shirt) shows
through in the yellow/orange type. All stuff you have to keep in mind in creating a design for that process.
Experience teaches.

So, as in everything, there are tradeoffs.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:28:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25183
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:28:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014547F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:36:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13524093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:36:20 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKaIr01200 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:36:19 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-33.panax.com [63.163.41.33])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JK8Rj03657 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:08:27 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <F203TAqvZKjaFLOsrpm00010d5b@hotmail.com>
            <3D385A31.38E03000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719160740.00a25d30@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:07:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Are you over batfest, Karen?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D387046.7030202@swbell.net>

>Bonnie, how long a drive is it from Boston?

Five hour drive from Boston.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:28:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25186
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:28:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED51B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:30:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13524097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:36:20 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKaKr01204 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:36:20 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-33.panax.com [63.163.41.33])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JK7Kj03603 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:07:20 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719160522.00a21bd0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:06:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <002301c22f5e$ca68eae0$360332d1@0018079268>

>I'm looking at Bayview Estates (I think
>that's what it was).  After all, it's only
>$10,000 per week.  Oh-oh.  Changed my
>mind.  Just turned the TV on to CNBC
>and see that the $10,000 is gone.
>                             - D. M.

Very funny.  I think you would be hard-pressed to find something that
expensive in Bar Harbor.  We are not Bal Harbour in Florida.  We are not a
luxury destination.  In fact, there are very few condos for rent or time
share places on the island.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:30:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25194
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:29:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED51D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:31:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13524167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:37:33 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKbXr01341 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:37:33 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZI00AIAJYLKP@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:37:33 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOELGFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Message-ID:  <3D387830.4000009@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:36:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Oooh!  You could take Rt. 6 all the way across!

S Hess wrote:

> Can't decide if I should fly or make this my Blue Highways experience.
>
> Sandra
>
>
>>>This sounds fantastic. I'm gonna pencil it in.
>>>Sandra
>>>
>>Great!  We already have Betty and Larry as definites and this list of
>>possibles:
>>
>>Love Judith and her Paul
>>Adam
>>Paul Barfoot
>>Marie
>>Lisa
>>Sandra
>>Rashmi
>>Emily
>>Natalie
>>Bookrat
>>Chopped Liver
>>
>>
>>    --bonniev
>>
>>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:33:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25203
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:33:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED522A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:35:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13524379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:40:47 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKelr01736 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:40:47 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6JKekQ15040 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          15:40:46 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <19e.5895e80.2a69ca4a@aol.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <003001c22f64$c54eb520$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:42:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> Yes, the Dow is the lowest it's been since Oct. 1998.
> Going to watch Louis tonight to get his view on things.
>
> Evelyn Duncan

Think he'll still be smiling?

             - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:37:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25246
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:37:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED527B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:38:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13524662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:44:39 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKidr02318 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:44:39 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6JKicQ18885 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          15:44:38 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMELEFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <004d01c22f65$4f770e00$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:46:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bonnie:

> >  I propose we call it Acadiafest
> > because lobsterfest is too stupid and Gangsta(Bonnie and Clyde)fest
would
> > be misleading.

That's very nice and it's proper and all,
but it's DULL and unwordslerworthy
IMO.  Let the punsters and pundits
have at it before you decide.

                - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:39:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25273
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:39:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00145570@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:47:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13524824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:47:31 -0400
Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKlVr02659 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:47:31 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.26.2adaa2fb (3890) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          16:47:21 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <26.2adaa2fb.2a69d4d9@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:47:21 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/19/2002 3:40:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes:

<<
Think he'll still be smiling?

>>

A good host always smiles even when the roof is caving in; gotta
make the guests comfortable.

Did you see the article in the latest TV Guide about his new show?

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:40:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25277
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:40:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00145574@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:47:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13524833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:47:48 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKlmr02684 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:47:48 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6JKllsS245357 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          16:47:48 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000201c22f65$8afaa680$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:47:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719162616.00a21ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of bonniev
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 4:29 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Acadiafest
>
>
> >This sounds fantastic. I'm gonna pencil it in.
> >Sandra
>
> Great!  We already have Betty and Larry as definites and this list of
> possibles:
>
> Love Judith and her Paul
> Adam
> Paul Barfoot
> Marie
> Lisa
> Sandra
> Rashmi
> Emily
> Natalie
> Bookrat
> Chopped Liver
>
>
>     --bonniev
>

Heide and Alec possibly.


alec

-------
Alec D. Plotkin
plotkina@isc.upenn.edu

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:41:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25281
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:41:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00145589@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:48:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13524906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:48:48 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKmmr02861 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:48:48 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6JKmlQ23030 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          15:48:47 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020719192849.F30C47E7C@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <005f01c22f65$e3bb4ae0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:50:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> > Habbah Fest.  We need something that describes the words-l spirit
> > as well as the place and/or the menu.
>
> Batfest.
>
> Karen

Clydesdale.

Roundabout, of course, but it does
make reference to the place and it
gives a subtle reference to <beer>.
Ha ha.

                   - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:41:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25285
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:41:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED52E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:43:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13525008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:49:18 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKnIr03001 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:49:18 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZI00LL3KI62A@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:49:18 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F203TAqvZKjaFLOsrpm00010d5b@hotmail.com>
            <3D385A31.38E03000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719160740.00a25d30@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID:  <3D387AF1.5000305@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:47:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Are you over batfest, Karen?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

>> Bonnie, how long a drive is it from Boston?
>
>
> Five hour drive from Boston.
>


Well.  How far from the NH lakes region?



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:45:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25307
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:45:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5338@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:47:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13525231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:53:15 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKrFr03521 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:53:15 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6JKrEQ27521 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          15:53:14 -0500 (CDT)
References: <3D3765FB.4050108@swbell.net>           
            <4.2.2.20020718190951.00a2b290@uclink.berkeley.edu>           
            <3D377A2B.7040405@swbell.net> <20020719104857.A58257@pobox.com>    
            <3D38705E.7080806@swbell.net>  <20020719152014.A58362@pobox.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <007e01c22f66$82d71aa0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:54:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rita's and  Karen's minds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Someone:

Yes. Both dressy and casual.  Kohl's really caters to little
>>>>>>>>>>>old ladies.
>>>>>>>>>>>

Perhaps so, but while I was in Wisconsin I
went to Kohl's and I thought their clothes
stank.  I might be an old lady although not
exactly little, but I wouldn't be caught dead
(pardon the expression) wearing anything
I saw there.

                       - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:47:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25319
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:47:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014560C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:54:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13525299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:54:36 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKsar03692 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:54:36 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6JKsaQ28901 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          15:54:36 -0500 (CDT)
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus> 
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719121334.02301a40@mail.istori.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <009101c22f66$b375b2c0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:56:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> I like Bah-Hahbah-Fest.
>
> Pete

You don't think that's too tony?

           - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:48:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25330
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:48:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED537D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:50:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13525406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:56:13 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKuDr03890 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:56:13 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6JKuCQ00564 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          15:56:12 -0500 (CDT)
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus> 
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719160522.00a21bd0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <009e01c22f66$ed0b36e0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:57:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >I'm looking at Bayview Estates (I think
> >that's what it was).  After all, it's only
> >$10,000 per week.  Oh-oh.  Changed my
> >mind.  Just turned the TV on to CNBC
> >and see that the $10,000 is gone.
> >                             - D. M.
>
> Very funny.  I think you would be hard-pressed to find something that
> expensive in Bar Harbor.  We are not Bal Harbour in Florida.  We are
not a
> luxury destination.  In fact, there are very few condos for rent or
time
> share places on the island.
>
>
>     --bonniev

Hey, not funny. I found it on the site you gave.
Maybe I misread it.

                - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:48:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25334
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 10:48:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED538B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:50:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13525444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 16:56:24 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JKuOr03917 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:56:24 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZI00ACAKTZLY@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:56:23 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D3765FB.4050108@swbell.net>
            <4.2.2.20020718190951.00a2b290@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D377A2B.7040405@swbell.net> <20020719104857.A58257@pobox.com>
            <3D38705E.7080806@swbell.net> <20020719152014.A58362@pobox.com>
            <007e01c22f66$82d71aa0$360332d1@0018079268>
Message-ID:  <3D387C9A.3060108@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:54:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Rita's and  Karen's minds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:

> Someone:
>
> Yes. Both dressy and casual.  Kohl's really caters to little
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>old ladies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Perhaps so, but while I was in Wisconsin I
> went to Kohl's and I thought their clothes
> stank.  I might be an old lady although not
> exactly little, but I wouldn't be caught dead
> (pardon the expression) wearing anything
> I saw there.
>


I take it you don't shop in department stores.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:00:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25371
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:00:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED55DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:02:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13527305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:07:57 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JL7vr06538 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:07:57 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-32.panax.com
          [65.114.190.32]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JL7uj14718 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          17:07:56 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719162351.00a26890@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D37E71C.28438.3E2805@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719170659.00a2eec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:07:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D37EB40.10928.4E5391@localhost>

>The availability of only white and grey shirts ... ...
>     mem

That sounds not good.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:02:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25407
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:02:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED55FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:03:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13527411 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:09:38 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JL9br06763 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:09:37 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-32.panax.com
          [65.114.190.32]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JL9aj14982 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          17:09:36 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <F203TAqvZKjaFLOsrpm00010d5b@hotmail.com>
            <3D385A31.38E03000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719160740.00a25d30@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719170819.00a2e070@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:09:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Are you over batfest, Karen?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D387AF1.5000305@swbell.net>

>Well.  How far from the NH lakes region?
>Rita Rouvalis Chapman

I don't know where the NH lakes region is.  But my guess is that the
distance is almost the same as that from Boston.  Maybe an hour less at most.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:03:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25416
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:03:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5637@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:05:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13527714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:11:08 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLB8r07469 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:11:08 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-32.panax.com
          [65.114.190.32]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JLB7j15333 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          17:11:07 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719160522.00a21bd0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719171024.00a2b380@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:10:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <009e01c22f66$ed0b36e0$360332d1@0018079268>

>Hey, not funny. I found it on the site you gave.
>Maybe I misread it.                   - D. M.

I think so.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:06:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25424
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:06:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5670@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:08:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13527902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:13:46 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLDjr07890 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:13:45 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020719211333.YGDZ26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:13:33 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719121334.02301a40@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719140030.02303020@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:10:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <009101c22f66$b375b2c0$360332d1@0018079268>

Doris Markland writes,

>You don't think that's too tony?

No, since most of the people who'd pronounce don't have the authentic
accent and would end up making a mockery of it.  And I think it brings out
the list's fascination with language and dialect, and is nicely obscure
without the right context.

A couple I don't like so much:

MEfest (after the postal abbreviation for Maine, and "it's all about me!")
DirigoFest ("Dirigo" is the official Maine motto, meaning "I lead")

Thanks to Bonnie posting on my wiki, I also know the unofficial Maine
motto, "The way life should be."

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:07:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25431
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:06:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014584B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:14:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13527934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:14:33 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLEXr07965 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:14:33 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-32.panax.com
          [65.114.190.32]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JLEVj15885 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          17:14:31 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <009e01c22f66$ed0b36e0$360332d1@0018079268>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719160522.00a21bd0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719171302.00a1d760@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:14:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719171024.00a2b380@pop3.norton.antivirus>

>>Hey, not funny. I found it on the site you gave.
>>Maybe I misread it.                   - D. M.
>
>I think so.     --bonniev

I take it back.  You were right.

BAYVIEW ESTATE
207-288-5077 Fax 207-288-3986
The Bayview Estate is a distinguished Georgian residence poised on the
shores of Frenchman Bay less than a mile from the village of Bar Harbor.
Well-appointed rooms, expansive front lawn and lovely terrace set the stage
for your visit to Bar Harbor. View the arrival and departure of the "Cat"
ferry to Nova Scotia, lobster fishermen at work, passing sailboats, and the
majestic Bar and Porcupine Islands less than one mile in the distance.
Experience the elegance of days gone by with a stay in the beautifully
preserved Bayview Estate.
111 Eden Street, Bar Harbor, ME 04609
Rates: In season $10,000 per week; off season $5,000-$8,000.
http://www.bayviewestate.com
Please call for availability



    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:08:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25435
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:08:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5699@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:10:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13528033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:15:47 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLFkr08214 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:15:47 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6JLFkQ21081 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          16:15:46 -0500 (CDT)
References: <3D3765FB.4050108@swbell.net>           
            <4.2.2.20020718190951.00a2b290@uclink.berkeley.edu>           
            <3D377A2B.7040405@swbell.net> <20020719104857.A58257@pobox.com>    
            <3D38705E.7080806@swbell.net> <20020719152014.A58362@pobox.com>    
            <007e01c22f66$82d71aa0$360332d1@0018079268> 
            <3D387C9A.3060108@swbell.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <00c201c22f69$a88ed640$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:17:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rita's and  Karen's minds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rita Chapman" <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
To: <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Rita's and Karen's minds


> Doris Markland wrote:
>
> > Someone:
> >
> > Yes. Both dressy and casual.  Kohl's really caters to little
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>old ladies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > Perhaps so, but while I was in Wisconsin I
> > went to Kohl's and I thought their clothes
> > stank.  I might be an old lady although not
> > exactly little, but I wouldn't be caught dead
> > (pardon the expression) wearing anything
> > I saw there.
> >
>
>
> I take it you don't shop in department stores.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita
>
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:13:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25482
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:13:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001458BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:21:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13528242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:21:22 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLLMr08854 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:21:22 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6JLLLQ26708 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          16:21:21 -0500 (CDT)
References: <3D3765FB.4050108@swbell.net>           
            <4.2.2.20020718190951.00a2b290@uclink.berkeley.edu>           
            <3D377A2B.7040405@swbell.net> <20020719104857.A58257@pobox.com>    
            <3D38705E.7080806@swbell.net> <20020719152014.A58362@pobox.com>    
            <007e01c22f66$82d71aa0$360332d1@0018079268> 
            <3D387C9A.3060108@swbell.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <00c701c22f6a$706c9bc0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:22:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rita's and  Karen's minds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >
> > Perhaps so, but while I was in Wisconsin I
> > went to Kohl's and I thought their clothes
> > stank.  I might be an old lady although not
> > exactly little, but I wouldn't be caught dead
> > (pardon the expression) wearing anything
> > I saw there.
> >
>
>
> I take it you don't shop in department stores.
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman

Not so.  While in Wisconsin I shopped in two other major department
stores (Dillards?  Macys?)  and the clothes there were nothing like the
ones I saw at Kohl's.  Perhaps Kohl's has different categories/levels of
merchandise at different stores?  I mean the stuff I saw was blah,
cheap-looking, but the store was out in
a suburbs and that might make the difference.

                  - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:14:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25489
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:14:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001458C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:21:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13528268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:21:58 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLLwr08916 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:21:58 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6JLLvQ27453 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          16:21:58 -0500 (CDT)
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>         
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719160522.00a21bd0@pop3.norton.antivirus> 
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719171024.00a2b380@pop3.norton.antivirus>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <00d201c22f6a$86111320$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:23:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >Hey, not funny. I found it on the site you gave.
> >Maybe I misread it.                   - D. M.
>
> I think so.
>
>
>     --bonniev

Look it up.

      - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:15:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25511
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:15:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED56FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:17:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13528361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:23:16 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLNGr09161 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:23:16 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-32.panax.com
          [65.114.190.32]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JLNFj17381 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          17:23:15 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <009101c22f66$b375b2c0$360332d1@0018079268>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719121334.02301a40@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719172145.00a2f3e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:22:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719140030.02303020@mail.istori.com>

>Thanks to Bonnie posting on my wiki, I also know the unofficial Maine
>motto, "The way life should be."
>Pete

"Life the way it should be"   is the usual phrasing, I think.  It's on the
welcome sign four hours south of us at the NH border near Kittery, Maine.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:20:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25552
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:20:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00145928@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:27:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13528627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:27:42 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLRfr09638 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:27:41 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-32.panax.com
          [65.114.190.32]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JLRej18014 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          17:27:40 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <009101c22f66$b375b2c0$360332d1@0018079268>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719121334.02301a40@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719172625.00a2cec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:27:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719140030.02303020@mail.istori.com>

>Thanks to Bonnie posting on my wiki, I also know the unofficial Maine
>motto, "The way life should be."
>Pete

I see both "Maine the way life should be" is the phrasing here:
http://www.state.me.us/purchase/


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:22:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25557
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:22:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5787@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:24:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13528781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:30:21 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLUKr10016 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:30:20 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6JLUKu19262
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:30:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOELGFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3886BD.60FB6E71@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:38:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Let's ask Ken.

Betty

S Hess wrote:
>
> Can't decide if I should fly or make this my Blue Highways experience.
>
> Sandra
>
> > >This sounds fantastic. I'm gonna pencil it in.
> > >Sandra
> >
> > Great!  We already have Betty and Larry as definites and this list of
> > possibles:
> >
> > Love Judith and her Paul
> > Adam
> > Paul Barfoot
> > Marie
> > Lisa
> > Sandra
> > Rashmi
> > Emily
> > Natalie
> > Bookrat
> > Chopped Liver
> >
> >
> >     --bonniev
> >

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:24:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25589
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:24:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED57B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:26:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13528942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:32:09 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLW8r10291 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:32:08 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6JLW8u21164
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:32:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D37E71C.28438.3E2805@localhost> <3D37EB40.10928.4E5391@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D388729.B96FE386@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:39:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

It would have been great if it could have been larger!  I still like it
though.  :-)  Larry said he is going to wear it for every fest gathering
here on out.

Betty

"Michael E. Macmillan" wrote:
>
> On 19 Jul 2002 at 16:25, bonniev wrote:
>
> > Were you pleased with the place that did the Batfest shirt or
> > should we go with some other outfit?
>
> The CafePress arrangement is attractive because it is so quick and painless for all concerned. Nobody has to
> collect orders or ship products. No deadline. Shirts can remain available indefinitely. Easy to offer items other than
> shirts.
>
> The drawback is that the process used to print the shirts imposes some real limitations. The size of the image
> area is a limitation to some extent. The availability of only white and grey shirts is dictated largely by the printing
> process, which uses transparent inks. Almost anything works okay on white. The grey BatFest shirt was less
> successful; the underlying pattern in the grey material (essentially the same as the Block Island shirt) shows
> through in the yellow/orange type. All stuff you have to keep in mind in creating a design for that process.
> Experience teaches.
>
> So, as in everything, there are tradeoffs.
>
>     mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:25:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25604
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:25:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0014598D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:33:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13528985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:33:13 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLXDr10400 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:33:13 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6JLXCu22358
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:33:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000201c22f65$8afaa680$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D388769.3AEEEA3F@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:40:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: English Language Discussion Group
> > [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of bonniev
> > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 4:29 PM
> > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Acadiafest
> >
> >
> > >This sounds fantastic. I'm gonna pencil it in.
> > >Sandra
> >
> > Great!  We already have Betty and Larry as definites and this list of
> > possibles:
> >
> > Love Judith and her Paul
> > Adam
> > Paul Barfoot
> > Marie
> > Lisa
> > Sandra
> > Rashmi
> > Emily
> > Natalie
> > Bookrat
> > Chopped Liver
> >
> >
> >     --bonniev
> >
>
> Heide and Alec possibly.

Alec, that would be super fantastic!!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:26:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25613
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:26:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED57D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:28:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13529033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:34:12 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLYCr10498 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:34:12 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6JLYBu23214
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:34:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719162351.00a26890@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D37E71C.28438.3E2805@localhost>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719170659.00a2eec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3887A5.CF6D2C68@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:41:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> >The availability of only white and grey shirts ... ...
> >     mem
>
> That sounds not good.

Not good at all.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:28:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25617
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:28:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED57E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:30:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13529087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:35:52 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLZqr10629 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:35:52 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6JLZpu25076
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:35:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <009e01c22f66$ed0b36e0$360332d1@0018079268>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719160522.00a21bd0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719171302.00a1d760@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D388809.563F69E4@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:43:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> >>Hey, not funny. I found it on the site you gave.
> >>Maybe I misread it.                   - D. M.
> >
> >I think so.     --bonniev
>
> I take it back.  You were right.
>
> BAYVIEW ESTATE
> 207-288-5077 Fax 207-288-3986
> The Bayview Estate is a distinguished Georgian residence poised on the
> shores of Frenchman Bay less than a mile from the village of Bar Harbor.
> Well-appointed rooms, expansive front lawn and lovely terrace set the stage
> for your visit to Bar Harbor. View the arrival and departure of the "Cat"
> ferry to Nova Scotia, lobster fishermen at work, passing sailboats, and the
> majestic Bar and Porcupine Islands less than one mile in the distance.
> Experience the elegance of days gone by with a stay in the beautifully
> preserved Bayview Estate.
> 111 Eden Street, Bar Harbor, ME 04609
> Rates: In season $10,000 per week; off season $5,000-$8,000.
> http://www.bayviewestate.com
> Please call for availability

Anne?  :-)

Wait, is there recycling?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:31:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25657
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:31:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001459E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:38:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13529183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:38:36 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLcZr10876 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:38:35 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-32.panax.com
          [65.114.190.32]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JLcYj19529 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          17:38:34 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <009e01c22f66$ed0b36e0$360332d1@0018079268>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719160522.00a21bd0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719171302.00a1d760@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719173642.00a286b0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:38:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D388809.563F69E4@uclink.berkeley.edu>

>Anne?  :-)
>
>Wait, is there recycling?
>Betty

Haha.  At least there is a bridge off of this island when house mates
clash.   I see from the web page that there is a house for rent right here
in our neighborhood for less than $700 a week.  Much more affordable than
the $10,000.   Could you swing that Doris?


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:33:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25669
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:33:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED581D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:35:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13529255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:41:02 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6JLf1r11123 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          17:41:01 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KHA02633; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:41:00 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KRA02513; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:40:59 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D37EB40.10928.4E5391@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D37FA6E.25144.14A772@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:39:26 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719170659.00a2eec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

On 19 Jul 2002 at 17:07, bonniev wrote:

> That sounds not good.

I'm inclined to agree with you, thought I thought grey the perfect choice for
the Block Island shirt.

There may be other on-line possibilities that would be near the Cafe Press
convenience level. We can investigate. Cafe Press gets lots of requests for
other colors. Maybe something will change there in the next few months.

Why don't you pick your favorite color and we'll work from there.


   mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:34:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25675
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:34:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED582A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:36:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13529293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:41:55 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLftr11169 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:41:55 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-36.panax.com
          [65.114.190.36]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JLfsj19999 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          17:41:54 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719121334.02301a40@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719173508.00b62020@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:40:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <009101c22f66$b375b2c0$360332d1@0018079268>

At 03:56 PM 7/19/2002 -0500, d.m. wrote:
> > I like Bah-Hahbah-Fest.
> >
> > Pete
>
>You don't think that's too tony?

It is not tony; it is rather dumb, in that it is not a true rendition of
the local accent (if, in fact, there is only <one> local accent---I've
heard several).  For many/most natives/locals, the pronunciation is closer
to "Bahabuh," i.e., the words are not drawn out as they would be in a
southern accent.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:41:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25714
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:41:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5893@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:43:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13529627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:49:20 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLnKr11931 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:49:20 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6JLnJQ24728 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          16:49:19 -0500 (CDT)
References: <009e01c22f66$ed0b36e0$360332d1@0018079268>           
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>         
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719160522.00a21bd0@pop3.norton.antivirus>         
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719171302.00a1d760@pop3.norton.antivirus> 
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719173642.00a286b0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <00f701c22f6e$58588720$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:50:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >Anne?  :-)
> >
> >Wait, is there recycling?
> >Betty
>
> Haha.  At least there is a bridge off of this island when house mates
> clash.   I see from the web page that there is a house for rent right
here
> in our neighborhood for less than $700 a week.  Much more affordable
than
> the $10,000.   Could you swing that Doris?
>
>
>     --bonniev

Not without sharing the place with a (quite a) few others,
but maybe that's not a bad idea.  Actually, I have
no idea if I could come, but would love to see
Bar Harbor, the Bar Harborites, and our mutual
friends.  You may not want me though because
I'm a real stick-in-the-mud.  I will tell you though
that I just heard and have in my vocabulary one of
the funniest blue stories I've ever heard.  Unfortunately,
due to KRAFT you're probably out of luck.

                  - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:43:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25729
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:43:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED58BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:45:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13529768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 17:51:18 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLpIr12174 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:51:18 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6JLpHQ26648 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          16:51:17 -0500 (CDT)
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus>         
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719121334.02301a40@mail.istori.com> 
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719173508.00b62020@mail.panax.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <010001c22f6e$9ea337c0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:52:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> It is not tony; it is rather dumb, in that it is not a true rendition
of
> the local accent (if, in fact, there is only <one> local accent---I've
> heard several).  For many/most natives/locals, the pronunciation is
closer
> to "Bahabuh," i.e., the words are not drawn out as they would be in a
> southern accent.
>
> cwv

Well, that does it.  They would find my
R's offensive in BH.

           - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:54:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25800
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 11:54:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED59A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:56:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13529808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 18:02:02 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JLq2r12291 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:52:02 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6JLq1Uh025876 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:52:01 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207191751110.19237-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:52:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <19e.5895e80.2a69ca4a@aol.com>

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>Yes, the Dow is the lowest it's been since Oct. 1998.
>Going to watch Louis tonight to get his view on things.

Me too. I've been pretty faithful on Friday evenings.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 12:02:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25853
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 12:02:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5A2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:04:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13530993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 18:09:43 -0400
Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JM9hr14720 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:09:43 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.12d.145c59e6 (18559) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul
          2002 18:09:41 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <12d.145c59e6.2a69e825@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:09:41 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/19/2002 5:02:21 PM Central Daylight Time,
dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes:

<<
Me too. I've been pretty faithful on Friday evenings.


>>

I haven't been due to the working-open-to-close-five-days-a-week
thing, but I'm off today.  Annegret is supposed to be back tomorrow,
so that will ease up the work schedule.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 12:07:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25900
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 12:07:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5ACB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:09:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13530722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 18:15:20 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JM5Kr14207 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:05:20 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6JM5KUh028713 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:05:20 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207191757380.19237-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:05:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I am sorry to report that my budget is probably safe from Pilates fees. I
have gone by the one studio in Knoxville twice now to try to schedule a
(private) class. Both time I have been told sorry - try us later (today
it was a couple of months). Further, they do not schedule private mat
classes, only group classes on the mats.

The place looks okay, but from the way they ask when they are asked for
appts., one might wonder what their real <business> is.

Perhaps I can schedule a Pilates class in Helsinki

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 12:09:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25906
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 12:09:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5B01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:11:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13530890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 18:17:14 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JM7Er14509 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:07:14 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6JM7DUh029052;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:07:13 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207191805560.19237-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:07:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Best NYYorker cartoon of the week
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

p. 25:

Eddie's Bar & Grill sign:

HAPPY HOUR,
UNDER GOD,
   4-7

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 12:15:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25929
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 12:15:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5B26@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:17:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13532011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 18:22:50 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JMMnr17059 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:22:49 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-19.panax.com
          [65.114.190.19]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JMMmj26086 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          18:22:48 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <009e01c22f66$ed0b36e0$360332d1@0018079268>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719160522.00a21bd0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719171302.00a1d760@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719173642.00a286b0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719182119.00a209d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:22:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <00f701c22f6e$58588720$360332d1@0018079268>

>no idea if I could come, but would love to see
>Bar Harbor, the Bar Harborites, and our mutual
>friends.  You may not want me though because
>I'm a real stick-in-the-mud.             - D. M.

What's wrong with being a stick-in-the-mud?  You could come and be Earth
Mother, consoling and feeding all the rest of us.  I'd love to meet you!


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 12:16:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25938
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 12:16:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5B33@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:18:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13532032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 18:24:28 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JMOSr17201 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:24:28 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-19.panax.com
          [65.114.190.19]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JMORj26342 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          18:24:27 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719170659.00a2eec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D37EB40.10928.4E5391@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719182251.00a2aac0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:23:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D37FA6E.25144.14A772@localhost>

>Why don't you pick your favorite color and we'll work from there.
>    mem

Me?  Moi?  I get to choose the color??  Wow!!  I choose some boring shade
of dusty green.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 12:31:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26030
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 12:31:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5B9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:33:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13532457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 18:39:02 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JMd1r18716 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:39:01 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6JMd1Q10603 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          17:39:01 -0500 (CDT)
References: <009e01c22f66$ed0b36e0$360332d1@0018079268>           
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>         
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719160522.00a21bd0@pop3.norton.antivirus>         
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719171302.00a1d760@pop3.norton.antivirus>         
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719173642.00a286b0@pop3.norton.antivirus> 
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719182119.00a209d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <012301c22f75$49892900$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:40:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >no idea if I could come, but would love to see
> >Bar Harbor, the Bar Harborites, and our mutual
> >friends.  You may not want me though because
> >I'm a real stick-in-the-mud.             - D. M.
>
> What's wrong with being a stick-in-the-mud?  You could come and be
Earth
> Mother, consoling and feeding all the rest of us.  I'd love to meet
you!
>
>
>     --bonniev

I think you know that I'm not
a stick in the mud.  I was being
disingenuous.  I will say though
that I don't do pot, though I can
guzzle beer with the best.  I think
I've mentioned that I once outlasted
(beer-wise) the Canadian Snowbirds
at an all-night party (in a hot tub).
I'm remembered in Moosejaw,
Saskatjewan.

                      - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 12:38:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26062
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 12:38:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00145DFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:45:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13532700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 18:45:31 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JMjVr19434 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:45:31 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000095;
          19 Jul 02 18:45:08 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 19 Jul 02
          18:45:01 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000094; 19 Jul 02 18:44:55 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D385E26.12098.DA0A98AB@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:44:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <009101c22f66$b375b2c0$360332d1@0018079268>

On Friday, July 19, 2002 at 15:56, Doris Markland wrote:

> > I like Bah-Hahbah-Fest.
> >
> > Pete
>
> You don't think that's too tony?

I represent that remark!

And you guys are triggering my Tony filter so all all this stuff
winds up in my self-references folder.

Norm Cynthia

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 12:46:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26114
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 12:46:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5C1C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:48:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13532902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 18:54:09 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JMs9r20148 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:54:09 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6JMs9u15897
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:54:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207191757380.19237-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D389A62.8665C84E@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:01:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> I am sorry to report that my budget is probably safe from Pilates fees. I
> have gone by the one studio in Knoxville twice now to try to schedule a
> (private) class. Both time I have been told sorry - try us later (today
> it was a couple of months). Further, they do not schedule private mat
> classes, only group classes on the mats.
>
> The place looks okay, but from the way they ask when they are asked for
> appts., one might wonder what their real <business> is.
>
> Perhaps I can schedule a Pilates class in Helsinki

Do a beginner's group.  You need more than one session.  It's expensive.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 12:47:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26137
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 12:47:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5C27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:49:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13532960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 18:55:06 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6JMt6r20288 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          18:55:06 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KHC03523; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:55:06 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KRC03242; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:55:04 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <009101c22f66$b375b2c0$360332d1@0018079268>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D380BCE.20933.588682@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:53:34 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719173508.00b62020@mail.panax.com>

On 19 Jul 2002 at 17:40, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:

>  For many/most natives/locals, the pronunciation is closer to
> "Bahabuh," i.e., the words are not drawn out as they would be in a
> southern accent.

There you have it: 4th of July Bahabuhcue.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 12:48:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26152
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 12:48:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5C2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:50:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13532987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 18:55:46 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6JMtkr20333 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          18:55:46 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KHC03580; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:55:45 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KRC03294; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:55:44 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D37FA6E.25144.14A772@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D380BF7.521.59269F@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:54:15 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719182251.00a2aac0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

On 19 Jul 2002 at 18:23, bonniev wrote:

> Wow!!  I choose some boring shade of dusty green.

Please explain to me what dusty green is.


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 12:57:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26192
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 12:57:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5CAE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:59:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13533449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 19:05:28 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JN5Sr21312 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:05:28 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6JN5RQ02205 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          18:05:27 -0500 (CDT)
References: <009101c22f66$b375b2c0$360332d1@0018079268> 
            <3D380BCE.20933.588682@localhost>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <014401c22f78$fb0cdb60$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:06:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> On 19 Jul 2002 at 17:40, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
>> There you have it: 4th of July Bahabuhcue.



Perfect.

   - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:00:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26236
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 13:00:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5CCB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:02:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13533534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 19:08:26 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JN8Qr21543 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:08:26 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6JN8PQ04895 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          18:08:25 -0500 (CDT)
References: <3D37FA6E.25144.14A772@localhost>  <3D380BF7.521.59269F@localhost>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <014b01c22f79$65057540$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:09:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> On 19 Jul 2002 at 18:23, bonniev wrote:
>
> > Wow!!  I choose some boring shade of dusty green.
>
> Please explain to me what dusty green is.
>
>
>     mem

I would say green with dust on it,
like a military uniform in Afghanistan
or a lawn after a Kansas dust storm
or an old sleeping bag the kids bring
home from camp or . . . need I go
on?

            - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:04:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26304
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 13:04:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5CE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:06:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13533379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 19:12:26 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JN2Qr21103 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:02:26 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6JN2PUh009030 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:02:26 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207191902060.19496-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:02:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D389A62.8665C84E@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

>Do a beginner's group.  You need more than one session.  It's expensive.

Where?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:07:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26348
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 13:07:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00145F82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:15:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13533721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 19:15:12 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JNFCr22135 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:15:12 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6JNFBb06852
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:15:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207191902060.19496-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D389F51.20AD8104@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:22:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:
>
> >Do a beginner's group.  You need more than one session.  It's expensive.
>
> Where?

They offer one here at our gym during the lunch hour.  I wasn't
impressed because I didn't like the instructor. Six weeks it ran.

Call and ask if they offer such a group. Maybe you can use your Finland
card or something.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:15:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26383
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 13:15:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5D2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:17:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13533662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 19:22:54 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JNCsr21929 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:12:54 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7328A6E94 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:12:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6JNCrP64972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:12:53
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020719181253.E35450@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:12:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      The Power Of Compounding
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I remember reading here about a great innovation in the art of
investing--putting your accruing interest BACK IN--and seeing
stuff go from 0 to 60 in microseconds ... anyway, this might
sound interesting then: <http://timetravelfund.com/>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:24:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26455
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 13:24:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5D58@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:26:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13533885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 19:31:41 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JNLfr22631 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:21:41 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6JNLfUh012414 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:21:41 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207191919590.19496-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:21:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D389F51.20AD8104@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

>> Where?
>
>They offer one here at our gym during the lunch hour.  I wasn't
>impressed because I didn't like the instructor. Six weeks it ran.
>
>Call and ask if they offer such a group. Maybe you can use your Finland
>card or something.

Oh, is joke?

If it's not a joke, who are "they"?

I think I will plan to watch my videos and try to figure this out myself.

Or maybe I will move to a city.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:35:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26559
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 13:35:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001460A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:42:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13534313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 19:42:51 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JNgnr24185 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:42:50 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-101.panax.com
          [65.114.190.101]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6JNgkj05190 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          19:42:46 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719182251.00a2aac0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D37FA6E.25144.14A772@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719194007.00a29ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:42:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D380BF7.521.59269F@localhost>

>Please explain to me what dusty green is.
>     mem

Not a bright green.  Not a deep green.  Not a forest green.  But a mellow
green.  I have no exact shade in mind.  It's more of what it isn't.  Not a
spring green.  Not Dartmouth Green.  Just a nice green, not too bright, not
to light, not too deep.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:01:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26799
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:01:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5E29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:03:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13534847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 20:08:51 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6K08pr26160 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          20:08:51 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KHE04384; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:08:48 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KRE04106; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:08:47 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D380BF7.521.59269F@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D381D16.23282.9C0741@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:07:18 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719194007.00a29ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

On 19 Jul 2002 at 19:42, bonniev wrote:

> Not a bright green.  Not a deep green.  Not a forest green.  But a mellow
> green.  I have no exact shade in mind.  It's more of what it isn't.  Not a
> spring green.  Not Dartmouth Green.  Just a nice green, not too bright,
> not to light, not too deep.

Have you ever actually seen a fabric in such a color?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:04:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26838
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:04:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00146215@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:11:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13534919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 20:11:34 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K0BWr26382 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:11:33 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-36.panax.com
          [65.114.190.36]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6K0BUj09289 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          20:11:30 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719121334.02301a40@mail.istori.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719173508.00b62020@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719200319.00b54738@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:10:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <010001c22f6e$9ea337c0$360332d1@0018079268>

At 04:52 PM 7/19/2002 -0500, d.m. wrote:

>Well, that does it.  They would find my
>R's offensive in BH.

Methinks thou art being disingenuous yet again, but if not---the
locals/natives do not find Rs offensive---they simply don't use them (and
it's mostly the natives that drop the Rs).  What they <do> sometimes find
offensive is the parody, e.g. "Baaah Haaabaaah" of the succinct,
conservative downeast accent.  By the way, many natives also drop an
interior <th>; Southwest Harbor becomes "Sou'west Habuh"; Northeast Harbor
becomes "Nor'east..." and so forth.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:08:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26894
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:08:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5E75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:09:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13535148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 20:15:37 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K0FZr26959 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:15:35 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-65.panax.com [63.163.42.65])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K0FWj09908 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:15:32 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719194007.00a29ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D380BF7.521.59269F@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719201448.00a30800@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:15:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D381D16.23282.9C0741@localhost>

>Have you ever actually seen a fabric in such a color?

Yes.  Clyde has a shirt on right this minute in that color.  Would it help
if I found a web page with a shirt that color?  Or would it depend on how
your monitor displays it anyway?


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:12:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26938
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:12:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5E8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:14:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13535240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 20:20:25 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K0KNr27342 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:20:24 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-65.panax.com [63.163.42.65])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K0KMj10689 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:20:22 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719194007.00a29ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D380BF7.521.59269F@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719201918.00a311d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:20:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D381D16.23282.9C0741@localhost>

>Have you ever actually seen a fabric in such a color?

Here's a url with a wonderful design embroidered on a shirt for sale right
here in Bar Harbor.  The background color of the shirt is one of the things
I'd call a dusty green:

http://www.coolasamoose.com/twiswt.html


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:28:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27111
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:28:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5EED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:29:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13535558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 20:35:30 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K0ZTr28561 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:35:29 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-36.panax.com
          [65.114.190.36]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6K0ZSj13011 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          20:35:28 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719201312.00b34ff8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:35:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Thoughts on driving to MDI for Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The first principle is that in northern New England (Vermont, New
Hampshire, Maine) there are no really good, direct, reasonably high-speed
routes that run West to East.  All of the interstates run South to
North.  West-East routes therefore involve a lot of map study, jogging back
and forth, etc.  It's a good way to see the countryside, but you won't make
very good time.

 From Boston, by interstate (I-95) it is about five hours to Bar Harbor
(I-95 drops you at Bangor).  If you choose to travel US 1 along the coast,
add an hour.  From Portland, it's about three hours using I-95 (again, add
an hour for US 1).

US 1 east (this side) of Freeport (LL Bean-ville) is an interesting and
often scenic drive---if you have the time and patience.  There are several
small towns with interesting architecture, including some magnificent old
sea-captains' mansions that mostly are now B&Bs.  Rockland, along US 1, is
the home of the Farnsworth museum, which includes the Wyeth
Center---dedicated to exhibiting the works of three generations of
Wyeths:  N.C., Andrew, and James.   Further east is Camden---a lovely port
and harbor but a real traffic bottleneck.  (We recently discovered a way
around Camden that eliminates the pain.)

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:32:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27169
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:32:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5F0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:34:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13535624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 20:40:07 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K0e7r28878 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:40:07 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6K0e6Q17085 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          19:40:06 -0500 (CDT)
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus>         
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719121334.02301a40@mail.istori.com>           
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719173508.00b62020@mail.panax.com> 
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719200319.00b54738@mail.panax.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000a01c22f86$3394ad20$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:41:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Methinks thou art being disingenuous yet again, but if not---the
> locals/natives do not find Rs offensive---they simply don't use them
(and
> it's mostly the natives that drop the Rs).  What they <do> sometimes
find
> offensive is the parody, e.g. "Baaah Haaabaaah" of the succinct,
> conservative downeast accent.  By the way, many natives also drop an
> interior <th>; Southwest Harbor becomes "Sou'west Habuh"; Northeast
Harbor
> becomes "Nor'east..." and so forth.
>
> cwv

Oh, boy.  My R's would set of
sirens.

                  - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:35:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27205
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:35:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014637F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:42:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13535652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 20:42:30 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K0gUr29024 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:42:30 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020720004224.HCXZ8192.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:42:24 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIENJGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:45:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <00f701c22f6e$58588720$360332d1@0018079268>

> friends.  You may not want me though because
> I'm a real stick-in-the-mud.  I will tell you though

You'd be surprised, Doris - I'm rather stick-in-the-mud-ish myself. I like
hanging out with friends and playing cards. Going out and doing stuff is fun
too - but just hanging out is fun. The thing that we Wordslers do best,
however, is Stand Around And Talk. (Well, and eat.)

In fact, I think a Fest night would be most pleasant playing Phase 10 or
International Rummy with Betty and Bonnie. The competition would be fierce.
They'd fight as to who sat to their right.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:35:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27209
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:35:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5F16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:36:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13535668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 20:42:38 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K0gbr29045 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:42:37 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-36.panax.com
          [65.114.190.36]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6K0gaj14058 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          20:42:36 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D381D16.23282.9C0741@localhost>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719194007.00a29ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D380BF7.521.59269F@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719203645.00b5d958@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:42:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719201918.00a311d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

At 08:20 PM 7/19/2002 -0400, bonnie wrote:
>>Have you ever actually seen a fabric in such a color?
>
>Here's a url with a wonderful design embroidered on a shirt for sale right
>here in Bar Harbor.  The background color of the shirt is one of the things
>I'd call a dusty green:
>
>http://www.coolasamoose.com/twiswt.html

Ayeh---that's it; they call it 'pine'.  I have a couple of golf-type shirts
and two sweatshirts of that color.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:39:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27249
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:39:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001463B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:46:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13535815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 20:46:39 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K0kcr29484 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:46:39 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-65.panax.com [63.163.42.65])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K0kbj14637 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:46:37 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <00f701c22f6e$58588720$360332d1@0018079268>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719204542.00a2ba00@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:46:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIENJGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

>In fact, I think a Fest night would be most pleasant playing Phase 10 or
>International Rummy with Betty and Bonnie. The competition would be fierce.
>They'd fight as to who sat to their right.       --Adam

I love playing cards.   I don't know Phase 10 or International Rummy.  But
I'm a quick study.

Do you think Melanie might come with you to Acadiafest, Adam?


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:39:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27260
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:39:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5F44@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:41:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13535844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 20:47:07 -0400
Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.106]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K0l7r29571 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:47:07 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.10c.149e3f87 (4365) for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul
          2002 20:46:57 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  7bit
Message-ID:  <10c.149e3f87.2a6a0d01@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:46:57 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Louis
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Yes, he smiled and even told a mild joke.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:40:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27278
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:40:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5F57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:42:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13535899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 20:48:04 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K0m3r29664 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:48:03 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-36.panax.com
          [65.114.190.36]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6K0m2j14834 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          20:48:02 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719121334.02301a40@mail.istori.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719173508.00b62020@mail.panax.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719200319.00b54738@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719204441.00b0f490@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:45:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000a01c22f86$3394ad20$360332d1@0018079268>

At 07:41 PM 7/19/2002 -0500, d.m. wrote:
>Oh, boy.  My R's would set of
>sirens.

Then you must attend and we'll give it a try (we have a great siren/horn in
the village).

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:43:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27288
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:43:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5F76@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:45:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13535997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 20:50:57 -0400
Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K0our29929 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:50:57 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.4f.20a5c0e4 (4365) for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          20:50:47 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  7bit
Message-ID:  <4f.20a5c0e4.2a6a0de7@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:50:47 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Japanese Ice Cream
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Here's an URL from another list about ice cream featured at an
exhibition of ice cream in Tokyo.

http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/japano/0207/ice-cream/1.html


Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:48:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27346
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:48:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5FA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:49:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 20:55:38 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K0tcr30410 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:55:38 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K0m4b07273 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:48:04 -0400
Received: from LAPLAND ([131.128.2.136]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with
          ESMTP id g6K0rGk25194 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul
          2002 20:53:16 -0400
Originator-Info: login-id=twi5708u; server=postoffice.uri.edu
X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.5, s/n P005-300797-005]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Message-ID:  <614456149.1027111639@LAPLAND>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:47:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Terry Wild <twild@URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Are you over batfest, Karen?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D385A31.38E03000@uclink.berkeley.edu>

At which point we need to visit again!

Terry

--On Friday, July 19, 2002, 11:28 AM -0700 Betty
<bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU> wrote:

> the plane will be cheaper to just fly into Providence.
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:54:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27440
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:54:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0014647B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:01:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:01:36 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K11Zr31110 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:01:36 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020720010130.GQUQ26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:01:30 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKENKGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:04:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719200319.00b54738@mail.panax.com>

> Methinks thou art being disingenuous yet again, but if not---the
> locals/natives do not find Rs offensive---they simply don't use them (and
> it's mostly the natives that drop the Rs).
>
> cwv

That's okay - the Law of Conservation of R's requires Rita and other Eastern
Bay Staters to pick up all those dropped r's and put them on words like
umbrella and others which end in vowels (the kind which I can't think of
right now.)

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com
however, "idear" is meet and proper in WMass

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:55:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27464
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:55:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014648D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:02:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:02:42 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K12gr31283 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:02:42 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6K12f2K017580 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:02:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D381D16.23282.9C0741@localhost>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719194007.00a29ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D380BF7.521.59269F@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020719180237.00ae9220@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:02:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719201448.00a30800@pop3.norton.antivirus>

At 08:15 PM 7/19/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>Have you ever actually seen a fabric in such a color?
>
>Yes.  Clyde has a shirt on right this minute in that color.  Would it help
>if I found a web page with a shirt that color?  Or would it depend on how
>your monitor displays it anyway?

Take a picture of Clyde in his shirt.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:56:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27494
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:56:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED5FEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:58:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:03:58 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K13wr31372 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:03:58 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6K13v2K019750 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:03:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D381D16.23282.9C0741@localhost>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719194007.00a29ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D380BF7.521.59269F@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020719180351.00ae52b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:04:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719201918.00a311d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

At 08:20 PM 7/19/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>Have you ever actually seen a fabric in such a color?
>
>Here's a url with a wonderful design embroidered on a shirt for sale right
>here in Bar Harbor.  The background color of the shirt is one of the things
>I'd call a dusty green:
>
>http://www.coolasamoose.com/twiswt.html

Maybe you could knit us all shirts.  You have some time.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:58:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27500
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:58:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED6011@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:00:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:05:51 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K15or31564 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:05:50 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZI00AS8WDQM1@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:05:50 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719194007.00a29ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D380BF7.521.59269F@localhost>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719201448.00a30800@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID:  <3D38B70D.3090306@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:04:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

>> Have you ever actually seen a fabric in such a color?
>
>
> Yes.  Clyde has a shirt on right this minute in that color.  Would it help
> if I found a web page with a shirt that color?  Or would it depend on how
> your monitor displays it anyway?
>


That's the exact color of my favorite Montreal t-shirt with
the teeny tiny hole in it.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:58:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27504
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:58:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED6012@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:00:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:05:55 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K15tr31570 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:05:55 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020720010549.IDUX24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:05:49 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOENKGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:08:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719204542.00a2ba00@pop3.norton.antivirus>

> I love playing cards.   I don't know Phase 10 or International Rummy.  But
> I'm a quick study.

I learned how to play IR in college and it was a favorite.

> Do you think Melanie might come with you to Acadiafest, Adam?

Not sure. July 4 is her holiday to celebrate with her husband and daughter
as a family - e.g. they don't have people over or go over anyone else's
house. I did forward her the announcement, however - we'll see.

Bonnie or Clyde - more info on that house renting in your neighborhood would
be good. Does it have sturdy plumbing and is it connected to the town sewer?

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:59:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27524
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 14:59:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED6018@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:00:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:06:34 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K16Xr31618 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:06:33 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6K16X2K026107 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:06:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <00f701c22f6e$58588720$360332d1@0018079268>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020719180552.00ae02e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:06:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIENJGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

At 08:45 PM 7/19/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > friends.  You may not want me though because
> > I'm a real stick-in-the-mud.  I will tell you though
>
>You'd be surprised, Doris - I'm rather stick-in-the-mud-ish myself. I like
>hanging out with friends and playing cards. Going out and doing stuff is fun
>too - but just hanging out is fun. The thing that we Wordslers do best,
>however, is Stand Around And Talk. (Well, and eat.)
>
>In fact, I think a Fest night would be most pleasant playing Phase 10 or
>International Rummy with Betty and Bonnie. The competition would be fierce.
>They'd fight as to who sat to their right.

What is Phase 10?

You do remember who had her big ass in your comfy chair most of the night
at your house?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:00:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27568
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:00:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED601D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:01:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:07:38 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K175r31692 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:07:05 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6K1742K002081 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:07:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIENJGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <00f701c22f6e$58588720$360332d1@0018079268>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020719180701.00ae24e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:07:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719204542.00a2ba00@pop3.norton.antivirus>

At 08:46 PM 7/19/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>In fact, I think a Fest night would be most pleasant playing Phase 10 or
>>International Rummy with Betty and Bonnie. The competition would be fierce.
>>They'd fight as to who sat to their right.       --Adam
>
>I love playing cards.   I don't know Phase 10 or International Rummy.  But
>I'm a quick study.
>
>Do you think Melanie might come with you to Acadiafest, Adam?

Melanie has to come!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:01:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27594
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:01:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001464EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:08:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:08:29 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K18Sr31741 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:08:28 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6K18R2K024503 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:08:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D385A31.38E03000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020719180758.00a374c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:08:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Are you over batfest, Karen?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <614456149.1027111639@LAPLAND>

The fireflies will be out!

Hey, how about a report on your little munchkin?

Betty

At 08:47 PM 7/19/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>At which point we need to visit again!
>
>Terry
>
>--On Friday, July 19, 2002, 11:28 AM -0700 Betty
><bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU> wrote:
>
> > the plane will be cheaper to just fly into Providence.
> >

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:01:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27612
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:01:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED6023@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:03:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:08:55 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K18tr31772 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:08:55 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZI00AQOWIUDF@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:08:54 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D3765FB.4050108@swbell.net>
            <4.2.2.20020718190951.00a2b290@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D377A2B.7040405@swbell.net> <20020719104857.A58257@pobox.com>
            <3D38705E.7080806@swbell.net> <20020719152014.A58362@pobox.com>
            <007e01c22f66$82d71aa0$360332d1@0018079268>
            <3D387C9A.3060108@swbell.net>
            <00c701c22f6a$706c9bc0$360332d1@0018079268>
Message-ID:  <3D38B7C5.2070504@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:07:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Rita's and  Karen's minds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:

>>>Perhaps so, but while I was in Wisconsin I
>>>went to Kohl's and I thought their clothes
>>>stank.  I might be an old lady although not
>>>exactly little, but I wouldn't be caught dead
>>>(pardon the expression) wearing anything
>>>I saw there.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I take it you don't shop in department stores.
>>--
>>Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>>
>
> Not so.  While in Wisconsin I shopped in two other major department
> stores (Dillards?  Macys?)  and the clothes there were nothing like the
> ones I saw at Kohl's.  Perhaps Kohl's has different categories/levels of
> merchandise at different stores?  I mean the stuff I saw was blah,
> cheap-looking, but the store was out in
> a suburbs and that might make the difference.
>


*Shrug*.  Other than the store brands (Croft & Barrow,
Sonoma), it's all the same stuff.

The better stuff tends to be further back and off the aisles.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:01:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27623
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:01:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED6025@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:03:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:09:22 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K19Mr31799 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:09:22 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6K19L2K026592 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:09:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719194007.00a29ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D380BF7.521.59269F@localhost>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719201448.00a30800@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020719180906.00a36210@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:09:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D38B70D.3090306@swbell.net>

At 08:04 PM 7/19/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>bonniev wrote:
>
>>>Have you ever actually seen a fabric in such a color?
>>
>>
>>Yes.  Clyde has a shirt on right this minute in that color.  Would it help
>>if I found a web page with a shirt that color?  Or would it depend on how
>>your monitor displays it anyway?
>
>
>That's the exact color of my favorite Montreal t-shirt with
>the teeny tiny hole in it.

Opening a beer with your shirt?  Those twist caps are difficult sometimes.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:05:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27641
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:05:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED6037@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:07:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:12:40 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K1Cer32024 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:12:40 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZI008C4WP3WV@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:12:39 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKENKGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Message-ID:  <3D38B8A6.3030109@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:11:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:

>>Methinks thou art being disingenuous yet again, but if not---the
>>locals/natives do not find Rs offensive---they simply don't use them (and
>>it's mostly the natives that drop the Rs).
>>
>>cwv
>>
>
> That's okay - the Law of Conservation of R's requires Rita and other Eastern
> Bay Staters to pick up all those dropped r's and put them on words like
> umbrella and others which end in vowels (the kind which I can't think of
> right now.)
>


        That's "Reeter," bub!





--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:07:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27699
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:07:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED603F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:09:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:15:17 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K1FHr32202 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:15:17 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-36.panax.com
          [65.114.190.36]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6K1FFj19318 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          21:15:15 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719200319.00b54738@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719210834.00b6f8e0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:15:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKENKGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

At 09:04 PM 7/19/2002 -0400, adam wrote:

>That's okay - the Law of Conservation of R's requires Rita and other Eastern
>Bay Staters to pick up all those dropped r's and put them on words like
>umbrella and others which end in vowels (the kind which I can't think of
>right now.)

Alaska, Nebraska, Arizona, California, Montana, Indiana, Alabama,  zebra,
mozzarella, a capella,  balsa, camera,...

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:07:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27703
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:07:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED6042@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:09:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:15:23 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K1FMr32218 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:15:23 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-33.panax.com
          [65.114.190.33]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6K1FLj19338 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          21:15:22 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719201918.00a311d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D381D16.23282.9C0741@localhost>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719194007.00a29ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D380BF7.521.59269F@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719211501.00a1b740@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:15:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020719180351.00ae52b0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

>Maybe you could knit us all shirts.  You have some time.
>Betty

Maybe Doris could quilt us all some.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:09:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27749
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:09:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED6052@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:11:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:17:03 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K1H2r32393 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:17:02 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020720011657.INAG24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:16:57 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIENNGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:19:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020719180552.00ae02e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> What is Phase 10?

A progressively-harder card game.

http://www.centralconnector.com/GAMES/phase10.html

> You do remember who had her big ass in your comfy chair most of the night
> at your house?

Yes, but how is that germane?

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:10:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27755
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:10:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED6058@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:12:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:18:04 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K1I4r32472 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:18:04 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-33.panax.com
          [65.114.190.33]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6K1I2j19786 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          21:18:02 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719204542.00a2ba00@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719211615.00a39030@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:18:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOENKGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

>Bonnie or Clyde - more info on that house renting in your neighborhood would
>be good. Does it have sturdy plumbing and is it connected to the town sewer?
>--Adam

I'm sure it is connected to the town sewer.  I can't really say much more,
though.  I've walked past it.  Do you think people really want to come for
the whole week?  Betty and Larry will only be here for three nights.  I'm
sure one can find accommodation for three nights for less than what a house
would cost to rent for the whole week.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:11:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27777
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:11:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED6063@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:13:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:19:20 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K1JKr32587 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:19:20 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZI00ACTX07DF@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:19:19 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719200319.00b54738@mail.panax.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719210834.00b6f8e0@mail.panax.com>
Message-ID:  <3D38BA36.50502@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:17:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

clyde w. voigtlander wrote:

> At 09:04 PM 7/19/2002 -0400, adam wrote:
>
>> That's okay - the Law of Conservation of R's requires Rita and other
>> Eastern
>> Bay Staters to pick up all those dropped r's and put them on words like
>> umbrella and others which end in vowels (the kind which I can't think of
>> right now.)
>
>
> Alaska, Nebraska, Arizona, California, Montana, Indiana, Alabama,  zebra,
> mozzarella, a capella,  balsa, camera,...
>


        Clyde, you have no idea what you're talking about.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:13:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27816
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:13:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED606C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:14:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:20:31 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K1KUr32685 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:20:30 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020720012025.HGFR26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:20:25 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAENOGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:23:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D38B8A6.3030109@swbell.net>

>         That's "Reeter," bub!

You mean other people don't automatically pronounce it that way? Jeeze.

--Adamer
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:15:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27838
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:15:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED6082@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:17:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13536950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:23:21 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K1NLr00456 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:23:21 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K1Flb08125 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:15:47 -0400
Received: from LAPLAND ([131.128.2.136]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with
          ESMTP id g6K1Mjk04158 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul
          2002 21:22:45 -0400
Originator-Info: login-id=twi5708u; server=postoffice.uri.edu
X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.5, s/n P005-300797-005]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Message-ID:  <616225973.1027113409@LAPLAND>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:16:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Terry Wild <twild@URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Are you over batfest, Karen?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020719180758.00a374c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

The little munchkin is a hefty 22 pounds and just turned 10 months.  Ed's a
happy baby and loves to smile and laugh.  Walking is his next endeavor,
he's always pulling himself up.  Still a bit wobbly.  He's into putting
things in and out of containers, knocking down block towers, spreading
plasticware all over the kitchen, and playing in water - a rather busy boy.


Terry


--On Friday, July 19, 2002, 6:08 PM -0700 Betty
<bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU> wrote:

> The fireflies will be out!    IN FORCE!
>
> Hey, how about a report on your little munchkin?
>
> Betty
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:20:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27907
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:20:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED609F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:21:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13537050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:27:36 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K1RZr00778 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:27:36 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020720012729.HMAM26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:27:29 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOENOGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:30:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F203KLki7HEVrJRo8OB00016d2b@hotmail.com>

> Yeah. How 1991.
>
> Marie

1992. GWTP. Gosh, who's left who isn't on nomail that was there? Natalie,
Rashmi, Anne, Karen, Rita, Terry, myself, Alec... who am I turning into
Chopped Liver?

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:22:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27917
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:22:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED60B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:24:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13537145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:30:10 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K1U9r01107 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:30:09 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020720013004.HOBW26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:30:04 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGCENPGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:32:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719211615.00a39030@pop3.norton.antivirus>

> the whole week?  Betty and Larry will only be here for three nights.  I'm
> sure one can find accommodation for three nights for less than
> what a house would cost to rent for the whole week.

Individually, yes, but if some of us got together and rented it for the
entire week, the cost per night would be way less, don't you think?

But whatever. It's too early to think about this stuff.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:31:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28017
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:31:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED60DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:33:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13537271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:39:16 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K1dGr01597 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:39:16 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6K1dF2K020344 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:39:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOENKGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719204542.00a2ba00@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020719183841.00ae58f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:39:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719211615.00a39030@pop3.norton.antivirus>

At 09:18 PM 7/19/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>Bonnie or Clyde - more info on that house renting in your neighborhood would
>>be good. Does it have sturdy plumbing and is it connected to the town sewer?
>>--Adam
>
>I'm sure it is connected to the town sewer.  I can't really say much more,
>though.  I've walked past it.  Do you think people really want to come for
>the whole week?  Betty and Larry will only be here for three nights.  I'm
>sure one can find accommodation for three nights for less than what a house
>would cost to rent for the whole week.

I sense panic in this post.  LOL.   You don't have to entertain them for
the whole week, Bonnie.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:33:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28059
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:33:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED60E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:35:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13537284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:40:56 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K1etr01674 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:40:56 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6K1es2K004031 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:40:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020719180758.00a374c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020719184018.00aeb740@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:41:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Are you over batfest, Karen?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <616225973.1027113409@LAPLAND>

At 09:16 PM 7/19/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>The little munchkin is a hefty 22 pounds and just turned 10 months.  Ed's a
>happy baby and loves to smile and laugh.  Walking is his next endeavor,
>he's always pulling himself up.  Still a bit wobbly.  He's into putting
>things in and out of containers, knocking down block towers, spreading
>plasticware all over the kitchen, and playing in water - a rather busy boy.
>
>
>Terry

Wow.  Is it fun having a little brother?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:36:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28109
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:36:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014664D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:43:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13537322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:43:35 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6K1hZr01822 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          21:43:35 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KHI02208; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:43:33 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id KRI01646; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:43:32 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D381D16.23282.9C0741@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D38334D.29286.F2CD26@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:42:05 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719201918.00a311d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

On 19 Jul 2002 at 20:20, bonniev wrote:

> Here's a url with a wonderful design embroidered on a shirt for sale right
> here in Bar Harbor.  The background color of the shirt is one of the
> things I'd call a dusty green:

There's no guarantee it looks the same on my monitor as on yours, but I
think I get the idea.


   mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:37:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28116
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:37:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED60FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:39:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13537368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:45:24 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K1jNr01995 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:45:23 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-33.panax.com
          [65.114.190.33]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6K1jMj23602 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          21:45:22 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719211615.00a39030@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOENKGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719204542.00a2ba00@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719214420.00a0eec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:45:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020719183841.00ae58f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

>I sense panic in this post.  LOL.   You don't have to entertain them for
>the whole week, Bonnie.        --Betty

You're right.  Panic.  I'm counting on three days and it's over.  But there
really is enough to do here to keep a person busy for a while week.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:50:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28251
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:50:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001466D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:57:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13537606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:57:58 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K1vvr03006 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:57:57 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6K1vu2K029830 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:57:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020719183841.00ae58f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719211615.00a39030@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOENKGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719204542.00a2ba00@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020719185519.00ae88d0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:58:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719214420.00a0eec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

At 09:45 PM 7/19/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>I sense panic in this post.  LOL.   You don't have to entertain them for
>>the whole week, Bonnie.        --Betty
>
>You're right.  Panic.  I'm counting on three days and it's over.  But there
>really is enough to do here to keep a person busy for a while week.

You can send them on hikes and forget about them.  It can be over for you
and people are just on their own.  That often happens.  If I'm going that
far, I'm doing other things as well.

What you'll probably find is that people don't want to do a lot in the
beginning.  We do just what we did at Adam's.  Drink, eat, talk, drink,
eat, talk.  It takes an army to get wordslers to move.  You're not
responsible for them though.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:51:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28277
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:51:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED614A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:53:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13537422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:59:16 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f268.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.146]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K1nFr02246 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:49:15 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          19 Jul 2002 18:49:10 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 01:49:09 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2002 01:49:10.0309 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A44C5550:01C22F8F]
Message-ID:  <F268XlYy3rnbzUsLiLA00010e7a@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:49:09 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:

>That's okay - the Law of Conservation of R's requires Rita and other
>Eastern
>Bay Staters to pick up all those dropped r's and put them on words like
>umbrella and others which end in vowels (the kind which I can't think of
>right now.)


MEEBER!!!!

-rashmi

(I believe this word rose out of someone pronouncing amoeba
as ameeber - intrusive r, I think it's called.)


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:56:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28310
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 15:56:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED619F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:58:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13537883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 22:04:24 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K24Nr03653 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:04:23 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020720020418.KBVL24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 02:04:18 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIEOAGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:07:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F268XlYy3rnbzUsLiLA00010e7a@hotmail.com>

> (I believe this word rose out of someone pronouncing amoeba
> as ameeber - intrusive r, I think it's called.)

You are correct. We talked about that, and then someone meant to type
"member" but it came out "meeber" instead.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 16:04:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28405
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 16:04:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED61D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:05:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13538031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 22:11:31 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K2BUr04300 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:11:30 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K23vb10241 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:03:57 -0400
Received: from LAPLAND ([131.128.2.136]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with
          ESMTP id g6K2AWk23908 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul
          2002 22:10:32 -0400
Originator-Info: login-id=twi5708u; server=postoffice.uri.edu
X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.5, s/n P005-300797-005]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Message-ID:  <619092195.1027116275@LAPLAND>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:04:35 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Terry Wild <twild@URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Are you over batfest, Karen?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020719184018.00aeb740@uclink.berkeley.edu>

Lillia and Ed are in the mutual admiration society.   She is his second
mother.   This becomes most pronounced when they are with babysitters.  He
looks to her for comfort.   Will enjoys Ed, especially making him laugh.
If the boys are somewhere together, Ed then looks to Will.  Will likes his
new duo role of older and younger brother.

Of course there are those sibling times when the older ones want to play
legos and Ed can't be around them.  Overall they like having him around.

Terry,  we're getting our first real rain in 3 weeks!  Some lightening, too

--On Friday, July 19, 2002, 6:41 PM -0700 Betty
<bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU> wrote:

>
> Wow.  Is it fun having a little brother?
>
> Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:16:29 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29276
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:16:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA28239
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:14:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7012@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 1:12:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13549010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 01:18:14 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6K5IDr20360 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:18:13 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA15350
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          22:18:12 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C2C8F97EFC for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:44:56 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 614 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2002 01:44:56 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 20 Jul 2002 01:44:56 -0000
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v0313030bb95e6a953fc9@[66.237.73.60]>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:44:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: DSAI round 2
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719193028.C66157E5A@yellow.rahul.net>

>I'm going to be very busy with *er* from a few minutes from now until
>who knows when. So don't make any irrevocable decisions without me.
>
>Karen

"Busy".  Ooh, now there's an interesting euphemism.  Showing him your
mammograms, are you?

Ken Miller
Department of Overshare

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:16:30 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29279
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:16:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA28223
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:13:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED700D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 1:11:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13548997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 01:17:07 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6K5H7r20254 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:17:07 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA15132
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          22:17:05 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C8F1697ECD for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:34:43 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 28454 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2002 01:34:43 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 20 Jul 2002 01:34:43 -0000
References: <3D3765BB.4090502@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130303b95e6840b365@[66.237.73.60]>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:34:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D38271F.13986.D933A524@localhost>

>I'm just piggy-backing on the title here - nothing to do with the
>thread. I couldn't help but chuckle at the return label on a box of
>manuals from IBM:
>
>National Literature Fulfillment Centre
>Box 190
>Paris, Ont.
>N3L 3E7
>
>I just knew there was a central place for all that fulfilling stuff
>from the likes of Margaret Atwood, Alice Munro, Michael Ondaatje, and
>so on.
>
>Tony H.

And it comes from N 3L3E7 place!

Ken Miller
L337 sK00l

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:16:33 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29285
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:16:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA27848
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:32:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED6EB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 0:30:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13547788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 00:36:26 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K4aQr17151 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:36:26 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust238.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.240]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004071783@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 00:36:26 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020719190010.6FF157C49@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D38E947.28709054@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:38:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> You need to talk to whoever orders business type clothes for the
> stores.

No, Karen, I don't need to. I have no trouble finding clothes with other
collars and no collars. I don't know why you do. But when I think
tailored, I think dresses, not blazers.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:16:36 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29291
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:16:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA27621
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:10:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED6DE7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 0:08:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13547152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 00:14:08 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K4E8r15537 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:14:08 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust238.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.240]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005381634@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 00:14:08 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020719195713.A31607@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D38E40D.93CE9882@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:16:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: traficant
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:
> So, is he a democrat now, but won't be in November?

He has voted as a Democrat on recent bills. But he voted for Hastert for
Speaker, so the Democrats sort of disowned him, despite his official
designation.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:16:38 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29294
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:16:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA27566
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:04:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00146F32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 0:07:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13545841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 00:06:32 -0400
Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net
          [204.127.131.47]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6K40lr13786 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002
          00:00:47 -0400
Received: from Single_Malt.worldnet.att.net ([12.86.1.4]) by
          mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020720040041.OBBW16185.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@Single_Malt.worldnet.att.net> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 04:00:41 +0000
X-Sender: elaine.personal.lists@worldnet.att.net@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <F203KLki7HEVrJRo8OB00016d2b@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.2.20020719215847.02c0d8b8@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:00:35 -0600
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Elaine M Brennan <elaine.personal.lists@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOENOGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

At 09:30 PM 7/19/2002 -0400, Adam wrote:

> > Yeah. How 1991.
> >
> > Marie
>
>1992. GWTP. Gosh, who's left who isn't on nomail that was there? Natalie,
>Rashmi, Anne, Karen, Rita, Terry, myself, Alec... who am I turning into
>Chopped Liver?

I think that would be me ....

--Elaine



Elaine M. Brennan, Principal            elaine.brennan@att.net
eb xml consulting
4900 South Ulster Street #13-101                303/224-0442
Denver, CO 80237                                720/635-8409 (mobile)
                                                 703/995-0741 (fax)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:16:41 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29303
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:16:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA27248
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:12:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED69E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:10:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13543971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 23:15:58 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K3Fwr10608 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:15:58 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-112.panax.com
          [63.163.41.112]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6K3Fvj05946 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          23:15:57 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719201918.00a311d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D381D16.23282.9C0741@localhost>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719194007.00a29ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D380BF7.521.59269F@localhost>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719211501.00a1b740@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719231515.00a21200@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:15:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <004101c22f9a$973076c0$360332d1@0018079268>

>It's going to be 105 here tomorrow.
>The thought of a quilted shirt is
><shudder>.              - D. M.

It's 57 degrees here right now and raining.  I actually turned on the
furnace for a little while this afternoon.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:16:42 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29308
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:16:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA27221
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:08:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED69BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:06:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13543850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 23:12:30 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6K3CUr10384 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          23:12:30 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6K3CT4369376 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul
          2002 23:12:29 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEMJFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:11:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      The latest take on Buck's
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From today's SFGate: http://makeashorterlink.com/?R11F21E41

The good, the bad and the plenty at Buck's
>From wacky decor to servings, excess has its ups, downs...

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:16:44 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29311
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:16:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA27167
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:02:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED685A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:00:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13542903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 23:06:01 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K361r09625 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:06:01 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6K360Q09334 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          22:06:00 -0500 (CDT)
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719201918.00a311d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>         
            <3D381D16.23282.9C0741@localhost>           
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719194007.00a29ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>         
            <3D380BF7.521.59269F@localhost> 
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719211501.00a1b740@pop3.norton.antivirus>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <004101c22f9a$973076c0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:07:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >Maybe you could knit us all shirts.  You have some time.
> >Betty
>
> Maybe Doris could quilt us all some.
>
>
>     --bonniev

It's going to be 105 here tomorrow.
The thought of a quilted shirt is
<shudder>.

                 - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:16:45 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29314
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:16:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA27175
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:02:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00146BA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:06:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13543144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 23:06:33 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6K36Wr09744 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          23:06:32 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6K36W4371766 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul
          2002 23:06:32 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEMJFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:05:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Thoughts on driving to MDI for Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719201312.00b34ff8@mail.panax.com>

Making "very good time" would not be my objective, Clyde. This would be an
adventure  :)  A stop at LLBean is very much in order. I've got relatives in
the Boston area. I can take that into account as well.

Sandra

> The first principle is that in northern New England (Vermont, New
> Hampshire, Maine) there are no really good, direct, reasonably high-speed
> routes that run West to East.  All of the interstates run South to
> North.  West-East routes therefore involve a lot of map study,
> jogging back
> and forth, etc.  It's a good way to see the countryside, but you
> won't make
> very good time.
>
>  From Boston, by interstate (I-95) it is about five hours to Bar Harbor
> (I-95 drops you at Bangor).  If you choose to travel US 1 along the coast,
> add an hour.  From Portland, it's about three hours using I-95 (again, add
> an hour for US 1).
>
> US 1 east (this side) of Freeport (LL Bean-ville) is an interesting and
> often scenic drive---if you have the time and patience.  There are several
> small towns with interesting architecture, including some magnificent old
> sea-captains' mansions that mostly are now B&Bs.  Rockland, along US 1, is
> the home of the Farnsworth museum, which includes the Wyeth
> Center---dedicated to exhibiting the works of three generations of
> Wyeths:  N.C., Andrew, and James.   Further east is Camden---a lovely port
> and harbor but a real traffic bottleneck.  (We recently discovered a way
> around Camden that eliminates the pain.)
>
> cwv
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:16:46 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29317
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:16:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA27158
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:02:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED6842@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:59:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13542836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 23:05:39 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K35dr09572 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:05:39 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6K35b2K015196 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:05:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719194007.00a29ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D380BF7.521.59269F@localhost>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719201448.00a30800@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <4.2.2.20020719180906.00a36210@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020719200508.00aecbc0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:05:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D38CF8C.3060501@swbell.net>

At 09:48 PM 7/19/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
>>At 08:04 PM 7/19/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>>bonniev wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Have you ever actually seen a fabric in such a color?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes.  Clyde has a shirt on right this minute in that color.  Would it
>>>>help
>>>>if I found a web page with a shirt that color?  Or would it depend on
>>>>how
>>>>your monitor displays it anyway?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>That's the exact color of my favorite Montreal t-shirt with
>>>the teeny tiny hole in it.
>>
>>
>>Opening a beer with your shirt?  Those twist caps are difficult sometimes.
>
>
>
>If I did, would that make me southern white trash?

I think that you can be white trash without being southern.  I met truck
trash on my trip to Oregon.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:16:57 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29325
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:16:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA27071
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:49:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED6342@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:46:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13539103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 22:52:36 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K2qar07158 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:52:36 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZJ00ELQ1BNVJ@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:52:36 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOENOGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Message-ID:  <3D38CFEF.6070302@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:50:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:

>>Yeah. How 1991.
>>
>>Marie
>>
>
> 1992. GWTP. Gosh, who's left who isn't on nomail that was there? Natalie,
> Rashmi, Anne, Karen, Rita, Terry, myself, Alec... who am I turning into
> Chopped Liver?
>

Was Lisa at the big event?  I remember her at the pre-clam.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:16:59 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29329
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:16:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA27062
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:47:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00146911@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:51:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13538989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 22:50:58 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K2ovr07024 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:50:58 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZJ00GQW18XRO@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:50:57 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719194007.00a29ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D380BF7.521.59269F@localhost>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719201448.00a30800@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <4.2.2.20020719180906.00a36210@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D38CF8C.3060501@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:48:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> At 08:04 PM 7/19/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>
>> bonniev wrote:
>>
>>>> Have you ever actually seen a fabric in such a color?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes.  Clyde has a shirt on right this minute in that color.  Would it
>>> help
>>> if I found a web page with a shirt that color?  Or would it depend on
>>> how
>>> your monitor displays it anyway?
>>
>>
>>
>> That's the exact color of my favorite Montreal t-shirt with
>> the teeny tiny hole in it.
>
>
> Opening a beer with your shirt?  Those twist caps are difficult sometimes.
>



If I did, would that make me southern white trash?



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:20:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29375
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:20:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001472AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 1:27:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13549163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 01:27:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K5Rar20861 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:27:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 385E57DAF; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 22:27:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720052736.385E57DAF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:27:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D38E947.28709054@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 20,
              2002  0:38:31 am"

alyce cresap said:
> No, Karen, I don't need to. I have no trouble finding clothes with other
> collars and no collars. I don't know why you do. But when I think
> tailored, I think dresses, not blazers.

Hm. I don't. What is a tailored dress like? My interview dress was
very simple--round neck, short sleeves, pintucks in front with a row
of 5 different wooden buttons down the middle. But I wouldn't call it
tailored.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:22:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29419
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:22:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001472BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 1:29:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13549210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 01:29:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K5Tdr20953 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:29:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A61E57DAF; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 22:29:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720052937.A61E57DAF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:29:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: DSAI round 2
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v0313030bb95e6a953fc9@[66.237.73.60]> from Bookrat at "Jul 19,
              2002  6:44:53 pm"

Bookrat said:
> >I'm going to be very busy with *er* from a few minutes from now until
> >who knows when. So don't make any irrevocable decisions without me.
> >
> >Karen
>
> "Busy".  Ooh, now there's an interesting euphemism.  Showing him your
> mammograms, are you?
>
> Ken Miller
> Department of Overshare

Uh, no, I did not know him my mammogram. It's at the doctor's. I do
have a knee x-ray somewhere.

We took a shower together.:) (Boy, am I glad *er* doesn't read this list!)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:31:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29555
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:31:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7077@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 1:32:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13549347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 01:38:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K5cRr21442 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:38:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 084237C5F; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 22:35:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720053554.084237C5F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:35:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Dinner so sucked!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I forgot to buy dashi (broth for the miso soup), so I made some--and I
forgot to taste it and it was way too fishy. We never got to the rice.
Parts of this meal were wildly successful, but other parts (like the
asparagus in mustard sauce) were simply inedible.

*er* is an extremely good sport, I found, and I like the fact that he
is willing and able to discuss an experience while in the middle of it.
I think he understood what I was aiming for, even though I didn't
quite achieve it.

I broke two glasses and one Japanese plate.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:31:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29560
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:31:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7079@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 1:33:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13549355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 01:39:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K5d5r21471 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:39:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2845F82F4; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 22:36:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720053646.2845F82F4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:36:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Literary Serendipity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130303b95e6840b365@[66.237.73.60]> from Bookrat at "Jul 19,
              2002  6:34:39 pm"

Bookrat said:
> And it comes from N 3L3E7 place!
>
> Ken Miller
> L337 sK00l

Ken.

You are Very Weird.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:34:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29577
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:34:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7080@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 1:36:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13549373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 01:42:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K5gGr21623 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:42:17 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 799C4833C; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 22:39:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720053915.799C4833C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:39:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <004101c22f9a$973076c0$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 19, 2002 10: 7:32 pm"

Doris Markland said:
> It's going to be 105 here tomorrow.
> The thought of a quilted shirt is
> <shudder>.

Whoa! Austin is cooler than that. So far.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:41:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29650
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:41:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED70B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 1:43:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13549507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 01:48:55 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K5msr21955 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:48:55 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 486287DBD; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 22:48:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720054854.486287DBD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:48:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207191757380.19237-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 19, 2002  6: 5:20 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> I am sorry to report that my budget is probably safe from Pilates fees. I
> have gone by the one studio in Knoxville twice now to try to schedule a
> (private) class. Both time I have been told sorry - try us later (today
> it was a couple of months).

I wonder why. Are they that booked up?!

> Further, they do not schedule private mat
> classes, only group classes on the mats.

Of course. Your private sessions, though, can be anything you want
them to be, including teaching you the mat exercises.

> The place looks okay, but from the way they ask when they are asked for
> appts., one might wonder what their real <business> is.

I'm not sure what 'looks okay' means. I go by vibe.

> Perhaps I can schedule a Pilates class in Helsinki

Perhaps.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:42:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29663
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:42:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00147375@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 1:49:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13549564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 01:49:23 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K5nMr22067 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:49:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3FF657F19; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 22:49:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720054922.3FF657F19@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:49:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719182251.00a2aac0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 19, 2002  6:23:57 pm"

bonniev said:
> >Why don't you pick your favorite color and we'll work from there.
> >    mem
>
> Me?  Moi?  I get to choose the color??  Wow!!  I choose some boring shade
> of dusty green.

Blick.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:43:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29689
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:43:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED70CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 1:44:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13549625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 01:50:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K5oUr22221 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:50:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A22DB7CB7; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 22:50:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720055029.A22DB7CB7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:50:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D389A62.8665C84E@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 19,
              2002  4: 1:54 pm"

Betty said:
> Do a beginner's group.  You need more than one session.  It's expensive.

I wouldn't recommend a group class for someone in rehab.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:44:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29696
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:44:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED70D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 1:45:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13549645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 01:51:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K5pWr22274 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:51:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4740D7D96; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 22:51:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720055132.4740D7D96@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:51:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D380BCE.20933.588682@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 19, 2002 12:53:34 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 19 Jul 2002 at 17:40, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
>
> >  For many/most natives/locals, the pronunciation is closer to
> > "Bahabuh," i.e., the words are not drawn out as they would be in a
> > southern accent.
>
> There you have it: 4th of July Bahabuhcue.

I vote for this. Or even Bar Harborcue.

(I was thinking of this kind stuff today when I saw a sign for barbacoa.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:45:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29709
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:45:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001473A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 1:52:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13549712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 01:52:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K5qVr22379 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:52:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A37887EF3; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 22:52:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720055230.A37887EF3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:52:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207191919590.19496-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 19, 2002  7:21:41 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> I think I will plan to watch my videos and try to figure this out myself.

I can guarantee you won't succeed.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:47:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29731
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:47:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED70FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 1:49:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13549777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 01:55:00 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6K5sxr22507 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:54:59 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA24152
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          22:54:57 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 373929716D for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:35:34 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 28629 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2002 01:35:33 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 20 Jul 2002 01:35:33 -0000
References: <20020719190400.1A53F7E86@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130306b95e6907e248@[66.237.73.60]>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:35:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus>

>Hmmm.  If we called it lobsterfest it  might be "the fest that crawled on
>the bottom and cannibalized its own".
>
>
>    --bonniev

Doesn't one broil lobsters, or bake them, or steam them?

Ken Miller
Department of Festal Onomastics

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:49:31 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29759
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:49:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001473C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 1:56:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13549819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 01:56:51 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6K5uor22611 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:56:51 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA24532
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          22:56:49 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D613971E4 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:43:11 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 314 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2002 01:43:09 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 20 Jul 2002 01:43:09 -0000
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719151905.00b5f3f8@mail.panax.com> from "clyde    
            w. voigtlander" at "Jul 19, 2002  3:22:14 pm"
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v0313030ab95e69f71a8a@[66.237.73.60]>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:43:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest---Not
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719192916.132E27E3C@yellow.rahul.net>

>> One could have Lobsterfest at any number of points on the New England
>> coast; there is only one venue for Acadiafest.
>
>I think the rule is the hosts don't have a say.
>
>Karen

As I recall, Elwood demurred regarding the original proposal for Lompoc
(Shake 'N' Bake), and as a result that gathering became Missionfest.

On the other hand, I seem to recall that Tony was not terribly fond of
"Torondezvous", but that he did not object to it.

Ken Miller
Department of Festal Onomastics

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:51:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29798
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:51:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001473EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 1:59:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13549934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 01:59:11 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6K5xBr22760 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:59:11 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA25119
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Fri, 19 Jul 2002
          22:59:10 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1298697264 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:53:12 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 2387 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2002 01:53:11 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 20 Jul 2002 01:53:11 -0000
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719162616.00a21ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130311b95e6c40a42a@[66.237.73.60]>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:53:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOELGFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

>Can't decide if I should fly or make this my Blue Highways experience.
>
>Sandra

DO IT!  You won't regret it.

Just make sure you allow plenty of time, and that you have a reliable car.
Nothing worse than being in Lewes, MD in the mid-afternoon when you're
supposed to meeting someone in NYC in the early evening, unless, of course,
it's being stuck for two weeks Wall, South Dakota, with a cracked head
gasket.

Ken Miller
Department of Pergrinatory Studies

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:52:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29806
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 19:52:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7139@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 1:53:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13549956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 01:59:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K5xVr22777 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:59:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 51A0D7D7A; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 22:59:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720055930.51A0D7D7A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:59:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest---Not
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v0313030ab95e69f71a8a@[66.237.73.60]> from Bookrat at "Jul 19,
              2002  6:43: 5 pm"

Bookrat said:
> >> One could have Lobsterfest at any number of points on the New England
> >> coast; there is only one venue for Acadiafest.
> >
> >I think the rule is the hosts don't have a say.
> >
> >Karen
>
> As I recall, Elwood demurred regarding the original proposal for Lompoc
> (Shake 'N' Bake), and as a result that gathering became Missionfest.
>
> On the other hand, I seem to recall that Tony was not terribly fond of
> "Torondezvous", but that he did not object to it.

Well, I remember objecting to Batfest.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 20:10:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00179
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 20:10:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED72A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 2:12:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13551312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 02:17:45 -0400
Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6K6Hjr25255 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002
          02:17:45 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6K6HiF131276 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul
          2002 02:17:44 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAENAFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:16:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130311b95e6c40a42a@[66.237.73.60]>

Is Wall, SD where they have that store that's advertised for hundreds of
miles?

Maybe I'll have a new car by then. Or I'll rent a Vanogan or such. Bar
Harbor or bust!

Thanks for the support...I really am craving a serious road trip. The last
time I went cross country was 20 yrs ago when I drove with my brother to his
grad school (Johns Hopkins). I loved it.

Sandra

> >Can't decide if I should fly or make this my Blue Highways experience.
> >
> >Sandra
>
> DO IT!  You won't regret it.
>
> Just make sure you allow plenty of time, and that you have a reliable car.
> Nothing worse than being in Lewes, MD in the mid-afternoon when you're
> supposed to meeting someone in NYC in the early evening, unless,
> of course,
> it's being stuck for two weeks Wall, South Dakota, with a cracked head
> gasket.
>
> Ken Miller
> Department of Pergrinatory Studies
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 20:22:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00383
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 20:22:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014757D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 2:29:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13551431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 02:29:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K6Tpr25873 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 02:29:51 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D847482F9; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 23:29:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720062950.D847482F9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:29:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020719111308.023e7ec0@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Jul 19, 2002 11:46:40 am"

Peter Kaminski said:
> Hot water is supposed to work for the itching.  DON'T wash with hot water
> on initial exposure, as it might open pores and let the urushiol get deeper.
>
> But after you've got the rash, put the affected area under water as hot as
> you can stand it for a minute or two.  Supposedly, the heat causes a big
> histamine flush, making it worse for a bit, but then after the histamine is
> depleted, you get relief for 6-12 hours.
>
> Thank goodness it's been years since I've had poison oak rash, but I
> remember this working at the time.

Well, I mentioned this to *er*, but he gave me one of those looks.

I got a good look at his legs tonight, and I was not happy. I did tell
him that it's only supposed to last two weeks--he's just over the one
week mark. But it looks much worse than it did earlier this week.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 20:23:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00396
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 20:23:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED72D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 2:25:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13551446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 02:31:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K6VCr25975 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 02:31:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CDEFB82FB; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 23:31:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720063111.CDEFB82FB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:31:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D38742B.4C47497B@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 19,
              2002  1:18:51 pm"

Betty said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Betty said:
> > > Someone should start saving these informational posts. Can we put them
> > > on the words-l web page?
> >
> > I made a page for the Austinfest; we could use that.:)
>
> How many times did you post it?

I don't remember. I do remember no one asking, however.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 20:24:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00401
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 20:24:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED72D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 2:26:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13551454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 02:31:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6K6Vvr25991 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 02:31:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 68408830D; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 23:31:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720063156.68408830D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:31:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: DSAI round 2
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D38735B.80702@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 19,
              2002  3:15:23 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> TMI!!

Cooking! We were cooking! And eating.

> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > I'm going to be very busy with *er* from a few minutes from now until
> > who knows when. So don't make any irrevocable decisions without me.
> >
> > Karen
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita
>
>
>

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 20:45:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00733
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 13 Jun 1960 20:45:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED730D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 2:46:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13551695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 02:52:39 -0400
Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6K6qcr27111 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002
          02:52:38 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6K6qcF146180 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul
          2002 02:52:38 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMENCFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:51:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020720062950.D847482F9@yellow.rahul.net>

Hey, you're pretty loopy for this guy. Good for you!

Sandra

> I got a good look at his legs tonight, and I was not happy. I did tell
> him that it's only supposed to last two weeks--he's just over the one
> week mark. But it looks much worse than it did earlier this week.
>
> Karen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 01:37:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA04932
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 01:37:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED76CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 7:39:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13554648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 07:44:55 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KBYtr09453 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 07:34:55 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6KBYtUh005144 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 07:34:55 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207200733230.23239-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 07:34:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020720054854.486287DBD@yellow.rahul.net>

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>I wonder why. Are they that booked up?!

That's what they say. (There was no one present except one instructor and
a departing peson identified as the owner.)

>> Further, they do not schedule private mat
>> classes, only group classes on the mats.
>
>Of course. Your private sessions, though, can be anything you want
>them to be, including teaching you the mat exercises.

I wish.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 01:38:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA04948
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 01:38:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00147FF4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 7:45:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13554662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 07:45:34 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KBZYr09511 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 07:35:34 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6KBZYUh005214 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 07:35:34 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207200735160.23239-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 07:35:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020720055230.A37887EF3@yellow.rahul.net>

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>Bethany K. Dumas said:
>> I think I will plan to watch my videos and try to figure this out myself.
>
>I can guarantee you won't succeed.

I love mindreaders!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 02:56:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA05601
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 02:56:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED785B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 8:58:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13556060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 09:03:53 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f163.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.163]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KD3rr14921 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:03:53 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          20 Jul 2002 06:03:47 -0700
Received: from 209.246.89.88 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 13:03:47 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [209.246.89.88]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2002 13:03:47.0702 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[E2B45960:01C22FED]
Message-ID:  <F163QsSTN3XybzTmtpC0001742e@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:03:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>Because Marie's former amour didn't want his name bandied about, so he
>was *ic*.

Yes. Rich. The Kicker.

Then she met and married *uc*.

Mr. Zucchini himself.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 03:07:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05680
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 03:07:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED788F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 9:09:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13556204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 09:14:41 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KDEfr15463 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:14:41 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-19.panax.com [63.163.41.19])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KDEdj13022 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:14:39 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719201312.00b34ff8@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020720085414.00b32d80@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:57:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Thoughts on driving to MDI for Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEMJFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

At 08:05 PM 7/19/2002 -0700, sandra wrote:
>Making "very good time" would not be my objective, Clyde. This would be an
>adventure  :)  A stop at LLBean is very much in order. I've got relatives in
>the Boston area. I can take that into account as well.

We tend to be wary about talking about driving and driving times;  it's
fairly normal to get a call at a B&B saying: "we're in Boston now, so we
ought to be there in two hours."  (!)

And LL Bean is a trip.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 03:07:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05684
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 03:07:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7891@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 9:09:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13556209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 09:14:42 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KDEgr15469 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:14:42 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-19.panax.com [63.163.41.19])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KDEfj13029 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:14:41 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020719190400.1A53F7E86@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020720090244.00b30f30@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:08:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130306b95e6907e248@[66.237.73.60]>

At 06:35 PM 7/19/2002 -0700, ken wrote:
>Doesn't one broil lobsters, or bake them, or steam them?

The traditional way is to boil or steam them.  When I cook lobsters, I
steam them.   At the big July 4 feed, they are boiled (as they are at most
lobster pounds).  One or two restaurants offer (or used to, anyway, baked
stuffed lobster).  Nobody around here that I know of broils
them.  Anthony's has a dish consisting of lobster sauteed in olive oil with
garlic, artichokes, and kalamata olives and served over linguini.  It's
pretty good.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 03:07:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05688
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 03:07:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7893@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 9:09:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13556214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 09:14:44 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KDEhr15474 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:14:43 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-19.panax.com [63.163.41.19])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KDEgj13041 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:14:42 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <v03130311b95e6c40a42a@[66.237.73.60]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020720091042.00b403c0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:14:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAENAFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

At 11:16 PM 7/19/2002 -0700, sharon wrote:
>Is Wall, SD where they have that store that's advertised for hundreds of
>miles?

Ayeh---Wall Drug.  Free water.  And the only "drug store" I ever saw where
one could buy $500 SLR cameras---or get one fixed on the premises (and this
was some 20 years ago).

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 03:14:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06765
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 03:14:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED78A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 9:15:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13556279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 09:21:21 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KDLLr15855 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:21:21 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZJ00KLXUFKJ6@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:21:21 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020719190400.1A53F7E86@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719144427.00a11190@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020720090244.00b30f30@mail.panax.com>
Message-ID:  <3D396372.1000700@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:19:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

        And make them into lobster rolls.... yum.


clyde w. voigtlander wrote:

> At 06:35 PM 7/19/2002 -0700, ken wrote:
>
>> Doesn't one broil lobsters, or bake them, or steam them?
>
>
> The traditional way is to boil or steam them.  When I cook lobsters, I
> steam them.   At the big July 4 feed, they are boiled (as they are at most
> lobster pounds).  One or two restaurants offer (or used to, anyway, baked
> stuffed lobster).  Nobody around here that I know of broils
> them.  Anthony's has a dish consisting of lobster sauteed in olive oil with
> garlic, artichokes, and kalamata olives and served over linguini.  It's
> pretty good.
>
> cwv
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 03:18:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06818
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 03:18:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED78B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 9:19:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13556321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 09:25:23 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KDPNr16065 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:25:23 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZJ00KMNUMBI2@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:25:23 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719194007.00a29ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D380BF7.521.59269F@localhost>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719201448.00a30800@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <4.2.2.20020719180906.00a36210@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <4.2.2.20020719200508.00aecbc0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D396465.9030600@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:23:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> At 09:48 PM 7/19/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>
>> Betty wrote:
>>
>>> At 08:04 PM 7/19/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> bonniev wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Have you ever actually seen a fabric in such a color?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.  Clyde has a shirt on right this minute in that color.  Would it
>>>>> help
>>>>> if I found a web page with a shirt that color?  Or would it depend on
>>>>> how
>>>>> your monitor displays it anyway?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's the exact color of my favorite Montreal t-shirt with
>>>> the teeny tiny hole in it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Opening a beer with your shirt?  Those twist caps are difficult
>>> sometimes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If I did, would that make me southern white trash?
>
>
> I think that you can be white trash without being southern.  I met truck
> trash on my trip to Oregon.
>


I haven't noticed this problem among Hoosiers.  I think it's
because they drink their Bud out of cans.

I bet I could install one of those little bottle openers
under the lip of my counter where the trash cabinet is.





--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 03:23:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07247
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 03:23:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED78D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 9:25:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13556436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 09:30:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KDUnr16403 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:30:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 64E4F7F72; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 06:30:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720133048.64E4F7F72@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 06:30:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207200733230.23239-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 20, 2002  7:34:55 am"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >I wonder why. Are they that booked up?!
>
> That's what they say. (There was no one present except one instructor and
> a departing peson identified as the owner.)

Have you tried another studio? In Austin there are probably 8-10
places that offer Pilates classes, plus a number of people who work
out of their homes.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 03:25:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07280
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 03:25:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00148380@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 9:32:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13556472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 09:32:11 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KDWBr16510 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:32:11 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E67A27E2A; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 06:32:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720133210.E67A27E2A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 06:32:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207200735160.23239-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 20, 2002  7:35:34 am"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >Bethany K. Dumas said:
> >> I think I will plan to watch my videos and try to figure this out myself.
> >
> >I can guarantee you won't succeed.
>
> I love mindreaders!

My estimate of your chances of success are not at all personal,
Bethany.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 03:26:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07316
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 03:26:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED78F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 9:28:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13556529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 09:34:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KDY0r16653 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:34:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9FD1D7F72; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 06:33:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720133359.9FD1D7F72@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 06:33:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F163QsSTN3XybzTmtpC0001742e@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 20, 2002  9: 3:47 am"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> >Because Marie's former amour didn't want his name bandied about, so he
> >was *ic*.
>
> Yes. Rich. The Kicker.
>
> Then she met and married *uc*.
>
> Mr. Zucchini himself.

TMI!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 03:53:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07475
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 03:53:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED79BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 9:55:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13557303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 10:00:49 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KE0nr19069 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 10:00:49 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust69.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.71]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004079051@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 10:00:42 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020720052736.385E57DAF@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D396D86.30F5F6A7@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 10:02:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> Hm. I don't. What is a tailored dress like?

Perhaps I use the term too loosely? To me there are two kinds of
clothes--tailored and frilly/floppy. A tailored dress can have round
neck, V-neck, square neck, or a collar (not notched), and is usually not
too flashy in color or pattern. Your interview dress sounds as if were
perfect, as you said it was.

Btw, the jacket in the Land's End catalogue comes in women's sizes up to
3X. It has no collar at all, but a V neck with a braid edging. Two patch
pockets. Hangs straight, not fitted.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 04:27:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07738
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 04:27:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7A2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 10:28:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13557675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 10:34:11 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KEYAr20908 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 10:34:10 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6KEdef01097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:39:40
          +0200
References: <v03130311b95e6c40a42a@[66.237.73.60]>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAENAFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020720091042.00b403c0@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020720163940.A1094@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:39:40 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020720091042.00b403c0@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 09:14:29AM -0400

On Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 09:14:29AM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
= At 11:16 PM 7/19/2002 -0700, sharon wrote:
= >Is Wall, SD where they have that store that's advertised for hundreds of
= >miles?
=
= Ayeh---Wall Drug.  Free water.  And the only "drug store" I ever saw where

There is a Wall Drug sign just outside of the Amsterdam Central
Station.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 04:42:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07879
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 04:42:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00148629@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 10:49:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13557823 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 10:49:29 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KEnTr21640 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 10:49:29 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6KEsxQ01120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:54:59
          +0200
References: <20020720052736.385E57DAF@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D396D86.30F5F6A7@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020720165459.B1094@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:54:59 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D396D86.30F5F6A7@valstar.net>; from alybooks@VALSTAR.NET on
              Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 10:02:46AM -0400

=
= Btw, the jacket in the Land's End catalogue comes in women's sizes up to
= 3X. It has no collar at all, but a V neck with a braid edging. Two patch
= pockets. Hangs straight, not fitted.
=
= alyce

Alyce,

We have finally ascertained that Karen has had Bad Catalogue
Experience.

Besides, the one thing Lands' End is not, is consistent.  I see
they've just cut a 1/2 inch off the inseam of a pair of pants I
want to buy, and that is going to make them possibly too short.
Grrr.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 05:02:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA08070
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 05:02:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7B2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:03:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13558605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 11:09:13 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KF9Dr23789 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:09:13 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KF1db31078 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:01:39 -0400
Received: from [131.128.5.120] (RodmanDU94.nets.uri.edu [131.128.5.94]) by
          terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g6KF82k30377 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:08:02 -0400
References: <F203KLki7HEVrJRo8OB00016d2b@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Message-ID:  <l0313030bb95f27e1a7e8@[131.128.5.120]>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 10:45:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Jim Bradley <fna104@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOENOGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

>> Yeah. How 1991.
>>
>> Marie
>
>1992. GWTP. Gosh, who's left who isn't on nomail that was there? Natalie,
>Rashmi, Anne, Karen, Rita, Terry, myself, Alec... who am I turning into
>Chopped Liver?

Me,

/Jim

>
>--Adam
>adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 05:13:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA08168
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 05:13:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7B76@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:15:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13558828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 11:20:58 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f108.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.108]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KFKwr24806 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:20:58 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          20 Jul 2002 08:19:29 -0700
Received: from 207.162.163.19 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 15:19:29 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [207.162.163.19]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2002 15:19:29.0462 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[D7925560:01C23000]
Message-ID:  <F108ukVxPS3MvutL2fd00001b7d@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:19:29 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Individually, yes, but if some of us got together and rented it for the
entire week, the cost per night would be way less, don't you think?

>But whatever. It's too early to think about this stuff.

>--Adam

But NOT too early to start planning the <appropriate> wardrobe!

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 05:19:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA08212
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 05:19:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7B9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:21:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13558748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 11:26:59 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KFGxr24440 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:16:59 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6KFGwUh018960 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:16:58 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201114540.24526-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:16:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020720133048.64E4F7F72@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>Have you tried another studio? In Austin there are probably 8-10
>places that offer Pilates classes, plus a number of people who work
>out of their homes.

There is, unfortunately, only one Pilates studio in Knoxville. I am
seeking alternatives. Someone at the Y gives "Pilates-type classes" - she
is not a certified Pilates instructor, but might be helpful. I will talk
further with her.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 05:21:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA08245
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 05:21:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7BBC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:23:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13558800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 11:29:02 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KFJ2r24692 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:19:02 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6KFJ1Uh019441 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:19:01 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201117130.24526-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:19:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020720133210.E67A27E2A@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> >I can guarantee you won't succeed.
>>
>> I love mindreaders!
>
>My estimate of your chances of success are not at all personal,
>Bethany.

Then I do not understand. Individuals who are not Pilates instructors
become Pilates instructors, so it seems clear that the
necessary information can be  imparted. Why is it not available on videos
and in books?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 05:27:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA08308
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 05:27:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7BFC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:29:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13559318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 11:34:43 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KFYhr26396 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:34:43 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6KFYg2K007376 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:34:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020720133210.E67A27E2A@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020720083424.00b0b610@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:34:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201117130.24526-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu >

At 11:19 AM 7/20/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> >> >I can guarantee you won't succeed.
> >>
> >> I love mindreaders!
> >
> >My estimate of your chances of success are not at all personal,
> >Bethany.
>
>Then I do not understand. Individuals who are not Pilates instructors
>become Pilates instructors, so it seems clear that the
>necessary information can be  imparted. Why is it not available on videos
>and in books?

It is.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 05:43:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA08404
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 05:43:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7C80@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:44:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13559716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 11:50:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KFodr27606 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:50:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E9D148043; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 08:50:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720155038.E9D148043@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:50:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Espen and Karen's Feet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D396D86.30F5F6A7@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 20,
              2002 10: 2:46 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Hm. I don't. What is a tailored dress like?
>
> Perhaps I use the term too loosely? To me there are two kinds of
> clothes--tailored and frilly/floppy.

OH!

Then all my clothes are tailored. I don't believe in
frilly/floppy--those look even worse than notched collars.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 05:44:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA08422
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 05:44:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7C8A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:46:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13559744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 11:52:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KFq1r27709 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:52:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7B77B7F90; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 08:52:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020720155200.7B77B7F90@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:52:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201114540.24526-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 20, 2002 11:16:58 am"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >Have you tried another studio? In Austin there are probably 8-10
> >places that offer Pilates classes, plus a number of people who work
> >out of their homes.
>
> There is, unfortunately, only one Pilates studio in Knoxville. I am
> seeking alternatives. Someone at the Y gives "Pilates-type classes" - she
> is not a certified Pilates instructor, but might be helpful. I will talk
> further with her.

I would also pursue the trainer-working-out-of-their-home angle. PT
places usually know about Pilates, too--that's how I got into it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 06:05:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA08601
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 06:05:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7CF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:06:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13559921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 12:12:09 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KG29r28372 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:02:09 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6KG28Uh026244 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:02:08 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201200480.24526-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:02:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020720155200.7B77B7F90@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>I would also pursue the trainer-working-out-of-their-home angle. PT
>places usually know about Pilates, too--that's how I got into it.

Thanks - I will keep looking/talking I have really been turned off by the
studio attitude. They have all the equipment - but the attitude matters.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 07:25:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09240
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 07:25:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7EA3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:26:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13561579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 13:32:13 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KHWCr01598 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:32:12 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust101.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.103]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004082210@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 13:32:12 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020719181253.E35450@pobox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D399F16.FB3FFB5E@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:34:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: The Power Of Compounding
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:
>  <http://timetravelfund.com/>

This is excellent! And only $10.

alyce


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 07:33:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09298
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 07:33:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7F2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:35:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13561970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 13:40:50 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KHenr02210 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:40:49 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id UAA26923 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:40:48
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA26839 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat,
          20 Jul 2002 20:40:45 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D39A04E.B101DF50@akad.ee>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:39:26 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Tiffin Boys
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I'm glad I decided to have "time-out" today at seven. I've been so fussy
since I decided for the trip -- much to do but few done, thinking of all
things together, etc.

For about an hour and a half I was outside that fussy'n'busy reality and
listened to the concert given by Tiffin Boys' Choir, here in Tartu. They
are going to have some (3?) more concerts in Estonia. I'm so pleased I
went to listen to them.

Now I'll see what I'm going to do with those 180 unread messages and ...
well, the travel fever is here again, together with all thoughts of what
is to be done. Even wait for an electrician on Monday morning..., who
already said he couldn't come at the time agreed(8.30), but only at 10.
I hope he'll be there at time.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 08:03:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09513
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 08:03:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7FD8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:05:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13562660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 14:10:55 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KIAsr04456 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:10:54 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id VAA30503 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:10:52
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA30069 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat,
          20 Jul 2002 21:10:28 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D39A04E.B101DF50@akad.ee>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D39A745.891493EF@akad.ee>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:09:09 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Tiffin Boys
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Kristin Sarv wrote:

> Now I'll see what I'm going to do with those 180 unread messages

Read them. Now I must see whether I get home before it starts raining, and
bring my clothes inside. They are drying, not yet wetting,in the yard. It's
been sunny and very hot here for long, but today night we may get rain.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 08:04:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09534
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 08:04:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7FDB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:05:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13562671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 14:11:32 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KIBWr04485 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:11:32 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id VAA31810 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:11:31
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA31617 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat,
          20 Jul 2002 21:11:27 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020720055132.4740D7D96@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D39A77D.FAEEDE26@akad.ee>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:10:05 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Michael E. Macmillan said:
> >
> > There you have it: 4th of July Bahabuhcue.
>
> I vote for this. Or even Bar Harborcue.

I like these two.

Kr.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 08:10:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09572
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 08:10:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED7FF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:11:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13562747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 14:17:09 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KIH9r04855 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:17:09 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust101.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.103]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005393314@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 14:17:09 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020720055132.4740D7D96@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D39A77D.FAEEDE26@akad.ee>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D39A99F.E96FAA12@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:19:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bar Harborcue.

This is best for many reasons that I will enumerate only if asked.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 08:16:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09609
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 08:16:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED8024@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:18:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13562919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 14:23:47 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KINlr05293 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:23:47 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6KINk2K016969 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:23:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020720055132.4740D7D96@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D39A77D.FAEEDE26@akad.ee>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020720112249.00af8220@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:23:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D39A99F.E96FAA12@valstar.net>

At 02:19 PM 7/20/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Bar Harborcue.
>
>This is best for many reasons that I will enumerate only if asked.

Please enumerate. Acadia Fest does sound boring.  The name does not have to
have fest in it.  We had WordQuake.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 08:17:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09630
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 08:17:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED8027@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:18:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13562718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 14:24:28 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KIESr04689 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:14:28 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6KIERUh025861 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:14:27 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201414030.25693-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:14:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tiffin Boys
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D39A745.891493EF@akad.ee>

On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Kristin Sarv wrote:

>bring my clothes inside. They are drying, not yet wetting,in the yard. It's

What wonderful words we have on words-l!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 08:19:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09645
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 08:19:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00148E38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:26:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13562731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 14:26:15 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KIGEr04780 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:16:14 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6KIGEUh027137;
          Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:16:14 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201415140.25693-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:16:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      I need a dummies book
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Is there a "Being 65 yoa for Dummies" book? I think I need one ... I never
expected to be this age ...

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 08:37:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09833
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 08:37:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED80B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:39:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13563515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 14:44:47 -0400
Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KIikr06950 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:44:47 -0400
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com
          (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g6KIijl32300 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:44:45 -1000 (HST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D39232D.15042.245E84E@localhost>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:45:33 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@FLEX.COM>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D39A99F.E96FAA12@valstar.net>

On 20 Jul 2002 at 14:19, alyce cresap wrote:

> This is best for many reasons that I will enumerate only if asked.

Enumerate. But only after you've started the argument over whether it should
be cue or que.


   mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 08:38:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09841
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 08:38:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED80BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:39:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13563528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 14:45:37 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KIjar07025 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:45:36 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6KIja2K011893 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:45:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020720114533.00b03490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:45:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I need a dummies book
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201415140.25693-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu >

At 02:16 PM 7/20/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Is there a "Being 65 yoa for Dummies" book? I think I need one ... I never
>expected to be this age ...

What did you save all your money for then?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 08:41:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09880
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 08:41:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED80C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:42:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13563541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 14:48:01 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KIm1r07124 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:48:01 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust101.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.103]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004083217@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 14:48:00 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020720055132.4740D7D96@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D39A77D.FAEEDE26@akad.ee>
            <4.2.2.20020720112249.00af8220@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D39B0D9.CCE98A01@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:50:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:
>
> At 02:19 PM 7/20/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >Bar Harborcue.
> >
> >This is best for many reasons that I will enumerate only if asked.
>
> Please enumerate. Acadia Fest does sound boring.  The name does not have to
> have fest in it.  We had WordQuake.

1. If you say it fast, it sounds like barbecue
2. It is simple. It does not try to be more than it is. Making it Bah
Habah-anything, combining a Maine accent with a pun, makes it too
complicated.
3. A barbecue is an occasion, like a rendezvous or a fest or a roast or
whatever the other ones are (mind is blank--I am overdrawn at the memory
bank)
4. It is short and sweet, relatively speaking
5. Acadia is dull sounding, no matter what you do with it.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 08:52:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09952
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 08:52:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED80F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:53:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13563724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 14:59:26 -0400
Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KIxPr07740 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:59:25 -0400
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com
          (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g6KIxOl35561 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:59:24 -1000 (HST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D39269C.21802.25351E0@localhost>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:00:12 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@FLEX.COM>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D39B0D9.CCE98A01@valstar.net>

On 20 Jul 2002 at 14:50, alyce cresap wrote:

> Acadia is dull sounding, no matter what you do with it.

I dunno. Acadian Love-In doesn't sound dull to me.

Or is that Love-Inn?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 08:52:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09956
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 08:52:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00148FA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:59:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13563575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 15:00:00 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KIo0r07215 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:50:00 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6KIo0Uh003563 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:50:00 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201449190.26237-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:50:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I need a dummies book
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020720114533.00b03490@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

>>Is there a "Being 65 yoa for Dummies" book? I think I need one ... I never
>>expected to be this age ...
>
>What did you save all your money for then?

Hahahahaha! You obviously have me confused with someone else. "Saving" was
never my middle name.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 08:57:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09968
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 08:57:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED811E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:59:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13563858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 15:04:55 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KJ4tr08086 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:04:55 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6KJ4pj08605 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:04:51 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207201347310.6291-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:04:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: I need a dummies book
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201415140.25693-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> Is there a "Being 65 yoa for Dummies" book? I think I need one ... I never
> expected to be this age ...

I bet you could write one though.  That would be how you would teach
yourself.

You could co-author with Rita - I don't think you have a light enough
touch for the Dummies market, but Rita could make it amusing.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 09:00:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09996
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 09:00:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00148FEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:07:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13563929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 15:07:38 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KJ7cr08394 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:07:38 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust101.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.103]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004083513@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 15:07:38 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D39232D.15042.245E84E@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D39B573.5CB698AF@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:09:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Michael E. Macmillan" wrote:
>
> Enumerate. But only after you've started the argument over whether it should
> be cue or que.

Sorry that I enumerated too soon. It should be cue, because it will be
then have no descenders. To have one descender in the middle of the word
will look u-g-l-y on a shirt.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 09:07:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10064
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 09:07:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED8150@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:09:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13564040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 15:14:47 -0400
Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KJEkr08909 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:14:47 -0400
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com
          (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g6KJEjl39509 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:14:45 -1000 (HST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D392A35.30660.261619F@localhost>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:15:33 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@FLEX.COM>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D39B573.5CB698AF@valstar.net>

On 20 Jul 2002 at 15:09, alyce cresap wrote:

> To have one descender in the middle of the word
> will look u-g-l-y on a shirt.

You realize you've laid down a challenge, don't you?


    mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 09:11:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10123
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 09:11:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED8159@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:12:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13564070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 15:18:34 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KJIYr09137 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:18:34 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust101.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.103]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005394133@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 15:18:32 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D392A35.30660.261619F@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D39B7FD.F1A78CC4@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:20:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Michael E. Macmillan" wrote:
>
> On 20 Jul 2002 at 15:09, alyce cresap wrote:
>
> > To have one descender in the middle of the word
> > will look u-g-l-y on a shirt.
>
> You realize you've laid down a challenge, don't you?

Well, of course you have the talent to make the descender attractive,
and I can envision it so if it is large and gracefully cursive. But
should it turn out to be in sans serif plain old letters, I think it
would be u-g-l-y, even in your gifted hands.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 09:15:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10235
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 09:15:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014908C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:22:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13564170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 15:22:51 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KJMpr09432 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:22:51 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020720192244.WFXI8192.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 19:22:44 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020720055132.4740D7D96@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D39A77D.FAEEDE26@akad.ee>
            <4.2.2.20020720112249.00af8220@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020720121602.02549e00@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:19:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D39B0D9.CCE98A01@valstar.net>

alyce cresap writes,

>2. It is simple. It does not try to be more than it is. Making it Bah
>Habah-anything, combining a Maine accent with a pun, makes it too
>complicated.

The less-is-more version:

BaHaBQ. :)

And for those who still read email in a fixed-width typeface:

  b    a
harborcue
  r    a
    words-l
       i
       a

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 09:24:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10421
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 09:24:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001490E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:31:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13564347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 15:31:54 -0400
Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KJVrr10053 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:31:54 -0400
Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com
          (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g6KJVql43801 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:31:52 -1000 (HST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D392E38.30943.2710D2C@localhost>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:32:40 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@FLEX.COM>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D39B7FD.F1A78CC4@valstar.net>

On 20 Jul 2002 at 15:20, alyce cresap wrote:

> Well, of course you have the talent to make the descender attractive,
> and I can envision it so if it is large and gracefully cursive.

You flatter me. The best I can ever hope to do is stumble on some graceful
placement of objects of beauty created by someone else.

      mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 09:28:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10485
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 09:28:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED81B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:29:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13564408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 15:35:33 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KJZXr10308 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:35:33 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust101.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.103]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004083924@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 15:35:25 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020720055132.4740D7D96@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D39A77D.FAEEDE26@akad.ee>
            <4.2.2.20020720112249.00af8220@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020720121602.02549e00@mail.istori.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D39BBF6.79780A27@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:37:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Peter Kaminski wrote:
>
> BaHaBQ. :)
>
> And for those who still read email in a fixed-width typeface:
>
>   b    a
> harborcue
>   r    a
>     words-l
>        i
>        a

That is far too complex, and impossible for anyone to read if the shirt
were on a person. BaHa sounds like something else entirely--Bali Hai,
B'Hai Temple, or Baa Baa Black Sheep.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 09:41:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10649
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 09:41:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED81E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:42:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13564437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 15:48:12 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KJcCr10464 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:38:12 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6KJcBUh013480 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:38:11 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201537540.26237-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:38:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I need a dummies book
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207201347310.6291-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:

>You could co-author with Rita - I don't think you have a light enough
>touch for the Dummies market, but Rita could make it amusing.

Rita?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:16:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11220
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 10:16:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001492FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:23:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13565541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 16:23:18 -0400
Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6KKNIr13479 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002
          16:23:18 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6KKNHF304932 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul
          2002 16:23:17 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEOAFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:21:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      New words for the day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ok...just looked these up. Hopefully, for the last time. Some words just
never stick:

*Perfervid
*Tautological
*Frippery

All useful words :)

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:35:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11524
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 10:35:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED8374@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:37:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13565963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 16:42:46 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6KKgkr14835 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:42:46 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA13602
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Sat, 20 Jul 2002
          13:42:44 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CD68097004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:42:42 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 13588 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2002 20:42:40 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 20 Jul 2002 20:42:40 -0000
References: <20020719190923.3B6297EF4@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020719150536.00a12c60@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
            bonniev at "Jul 19, 2002  3: 7:24 pm"
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v0313030fb95e6bb98465@[66.237.73.60]>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:42:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D37E71C.28438.3E2805@localhost>

>Somebody else will have to do the shirt then. I'm allergic to lobster.
>
>
>    mem

Doesn't this imply that you are *not* allergic to bat?  If so, do you have
a favorite recipe?

Ken Miller
Organoleptics Department
California Institute of Haughty Cuisine

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:42:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11709
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 10:42:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED83B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:43:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13566170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 16:49:10 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6KKn9r15449 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:49:10 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA14466
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Sat, 20 Jul 2002
          13:49:09 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D6B597005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:49:08 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 14462 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2002 20:49:07 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 20 Jul 2002 20:49:07 -0000
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGEELHGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam Hartfield
            at "Jul 18, 2002  8:34:47 pm"
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130307b95d313a6f24@[66.237.73.73]>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:48:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Seaweed salad?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719004252.D06D58185@yellow.rahul.net>

>I bought some in memoriam of Natalie. I think I forgot about the
>seaweed salad--I'll have to shove that in somewhere.
>
>Karen


<montypython> But she's not dead yet! </montypython>

Someone who was going to Block Island told me the group was going to drink
a toast in my memory.  I told her I'd rather that they drink it in honor,
as I rather hoped I wouldn't die in the meantime.

Ken Miller
Connotational Correspondent
The Lostin Times

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:50:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11922
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 10:50:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED8402@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:51:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13566435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 16:57:02 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KKv2r16079 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:57:02 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZK00K6NFJ1J6@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:57:02 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201537540.26237-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D39CE40.2080609@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:55:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: I need a dummies book
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:
>
>
>>You could co-author with Rita - I don't think you have a light enough
>>touch for the Dummies market, but Rita could make it amusing.
>>
>
> Rita?
>


Well, you'd have to wait 30 years for me to get there.





--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:58:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12138
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 10:58:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00149504@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:05:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13567575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 17:05:00 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6KL4xr17161 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:04:59 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA16119
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Sat, 20 Jul 2002
          14:04:58 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CDA297004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:04:57 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 16112 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2002 21:04:56 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 20 Jul 2002 21:04:56 -0000
References: <20020719104857.A58257@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Jul 19,
            2002 10:48:57 am"
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130301b95e66bf58f2@[66.237.73.60]>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:04:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rita's and  Karen's minds
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719161031.C0ED881B3@yellow.rahul.net>

>> >         I feel so... oh, where is that Tushar when you need him *sniff*.
>>
>> Rita,
>>
>> You are right and Karen is wrong.
>
>You are so obsessed with Rita. (Sorry, no time to make a web page.)
>
>Karen

Allow me.

http://www.bookrat.com/\/yasowr

Ken Miller
Kruger School of Semiotics

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 11:02:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12210
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 11:02:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED85AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:03:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13566617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 17:09:24 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KKxNr16310 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:59:23 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6KKxNUh027558 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:59:23 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201657350.26893-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:59:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I need a dummies book
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D39CE40.2080609@swbell.net>

On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:

>>>You could co-author with Rita - I don't think you have a light enough
>>>touch for the Dummies market, but Rita could make it amusing.
>>>
>>
>> Rita?
>>
>
>
>Well, you'd have to wait 30 years for me to get there.

I am co-authoring with junior colleagues all over the place right now. It
MIGHT be smart to learn some of this stuff before you are 65. As we old
fogeys like to say, "If I had known when I was 35 what I know now
..." etc. etc. etc.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 11:07:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12301
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 11:07:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED85D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:08:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13567808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 17:14:17 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KLEGr17885 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:14:16 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6KLEFQ22892 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002
          16:14:15 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <007301c23032$9ec1e340$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:15:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

How about a motto:

We bar harboring felons, malicious
thoughts, bad puns . .


        - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 12:53:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14044
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 12:53:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED88CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:54:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13570100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 19:00:36 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KMoar24685 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:50:36 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6KMoaUh011337;
          Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:50:36 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201845100.27519-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:50:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      retirement stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Finally, some offices at UT have begun providing information about
services available to retirees. I am no longer in the dark about computer
accounts:

>OIT is pleased to announce that those persons retiring from the
University of Tennessee with 10 or more years of service are now entitled
to keep their existing SIMS e-mail account and/or are eligible to sign up
for an Enhanced Remote Access (ERA) Account. The e-mail account is free,
but retirees are responsible for paying for the on-going charges
associated with the ERA account.<

We have several times been threatened with having to pay for our ERA
accounts, but not until this summer did we actually have to begin doing
it. I now pay $22 for the summer and $55 for each regular semester for the
ERA account (it makes the account accessible off campus). That's $132 a
year or $11 a month. I will not complain about that.

Bethany, planning that book, I guess, or maybe just living it

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 13:04:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14190
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 13:03:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014995C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 19:10:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13570653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 19:10:55 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KNAtr26173 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 19:10:55 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZK004KBLQ6SD@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:10:54 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201657350.26893-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D39EDA0.6010700@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:09:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: I need a dummies book
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>>>You could co-author with Rita - I don't think you have a light enough
>>>>touch for the Dummies market, but Rita could make it amusing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Rita?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Well, you'd have to wait 30 years for me to get there.
>>
>
> I am co-authoring with junior colleagues all over the place right now. It
> MIGHT be smart to learn some of this stuff before you are 65. As we old
> fogeys like to say, "If I had known when I was 35 what I know now
> ..." etc. etc. etc.
>


I'm not even 35 yet.  If I didn't feel like death on a
cracker right now, this would be funny.  But sure, Bethany,
if you decide to write Decrepitude for Dummies, I'll lend
you some levity.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 13:33:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14516
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 13:33:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED898A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 19:34:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13571193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 19:40:04 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KNe4r28141 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 19:40:04 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws166-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.166]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6KNe2e26213
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:40:02 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201845100.27519-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D39F4CE.F217D16A@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:39:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: retirement stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> ERA account (it makes the account accessible off campus). That's $132 a

You can't access it from anything other that the official UT dialup?
How do you check your e-mail when traveling?

I just turned mail back on.  I'm sure y'all are ecstatic to have me
back.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 13:40:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14606
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 13:40:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED89A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 19:41:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13571285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 19:47:27 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6KNlRr28582 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 19:47:27 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZK004BWNF3R6@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:47:27 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201845100.27519-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D39F4CE.F217D16A@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D39F631.70103@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:45:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: retirement stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:


> I just turned mail back on.  I'm sure y'all are ecstatic to have me
> back.
>


I dunno.  You've been a little cranky lately.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:03:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14921
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 14:03:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED89F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:04:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13571566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 20:10:02 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6L0A2r29911 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:10:02 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020721000956.NQED24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 00:09:56 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEOOGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:12:42 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.2.20020719215847.02c0d8b8@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net>

> >1992. GWTP. Gosh, who's left who isn't on nomail that was there? Natalie,
> >Rashmi, Anne, Karen, Rita, Terry, myself, Alec... who am I turning into
> >Chopped Liver?
>
> I think that would be me ....
>
> --Elaine

Ah! I thought you were set to nomail - I was just listing Clambakers who had
recently posted.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:08:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15026
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 14:08:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED89FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:09:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13571627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 20:15:40 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6L0Fer30209 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:15:40 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020721001534.NTUE24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 00:15:34 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEOOGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:18:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <l0313030bb95f27e1a7e8@[131.128.5.120]>

> >1992. GWTP. Gosh, who's left who isn't on nomail that was there? Natalie,
> >Rashmi, Anne, Karen, Rita, Terry, myself, Alec... who am I turning into
> >Chopped Liver?
>
> Me,
>
> /Jim

A thousand pardons!

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:16:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15171
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 14:16:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED8A27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:17:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13571597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 20:23:01 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6L0D1r30042 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:13:01 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6L0D0Uh023276 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:13:00 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207202010180.28129-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:13:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: retirement stuff
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D39F4CE.F217D16A@maynor.net>

On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> ERA account (it makes the account accessible off campus). That's $132 a
>
>You can't access it from anything other that the official UT dialup?
>How do you check your e-mail when traveling?

No - as I said, it's the ERA payment that makes it possible to access
the account from off campus. But I probably don't understand your
question. Think telnet.

And welcome back!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:17:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15208
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 14:17:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED8A2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:18:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13571802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 20:24:01 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6L0O1r30834 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:24:01 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws171-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.171]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6L0Nxe03729
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 19:23:59 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEOOGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D39FF1B.6E2C026D@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 19:23:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:
>
> > >1992. GWTP. Gosh, who's left who isn't on nomail that was there? Natalie,
> > >Rashmi, Anne, Karen, Rita, Terry, myself, Alec... who am I turning into
> > >Chopped Liver?
> >
> > I think that would be me ....
> >
> > --Elaine
>
> Ah! I thought you were set to nomail - I was just listing Clambakers who had
> recently posted.

I was on nomail and didn't see the original.  Are we talking about
clambake?  Did somebody think it was named Lobsterfest?

I think I need to go back on nomail, though.  Am not sure why I'm
chiming in.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 15:01:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15983
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 15:01:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED8AE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:03:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13572575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 21:08:47 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6L18lr01370 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:08:47 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA13993
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Sat, 20 Jul 2002
          18:08:45 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 101A397004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:08:41 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 13961 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2002 01:08:40 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 21 Jul 2002 01:08:40 -0000
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEOOGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130301b95fb9cfcf81@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:08:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D39FF1B.6E2C026D@maynor.net>

>I was on nomail and didn't see the original.  Are we talking about
>clambake?  Did somebody think it was named Lobsterfest?

> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Let's just say that Rashmi forgot about not SAI.

Ken Miller
Festal Correspondent
The Lostin Times

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 15:18:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16169
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 15:18:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED8B23@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:20:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13572804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 21:25:43 -0400
Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6L1Pgr02323 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002
          21:25:42 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6L1PgF102502 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul
          2002 21:25:42 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEOFFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:24:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130301b95fb9cfcf81@[198.144.202.197]>

At least you're not a fetal correspondent.

Sandra

> Ken Miller
> Festal Correspondent
> The Lostin Times
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 16:03:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16774
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 16:03:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED8C0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 22:04:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13573629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 22:10:30 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6L2ARr05087 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 22:10:28 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-128.panax.com
          [65.114.190.128]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6L2ANj20042 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002
          22:10:23 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D39B0D9.CCE98A01@valstar.net>
            <20020720055132.4740D7D96@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D39A77D.FAEEDE26@akad.ee>
            <4.2.2.20020720112249.00af8220@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020720220958.00b426d8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 22:10:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020720121602.02549e00@mail.istori.com>

At 12:19 PM 7/20/2002 -0700, pete k. wrote:
>alyce cresap writes,
>
>>2. It is simple. It does not try to be more than it is. Making it Bah
>>Habah-anything, combining a Maine accent with a pun, makes it too
>>complicated.
>
>The less-is-more version:
>
>BaHaBQ. :)

no.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 16:13:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16913
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 16:13:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED8C58@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 22:14:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13573952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 22:19:58 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6L2Jwr05973 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 22:19:58 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6L2JsK22821 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:19:54 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207202115410.22291-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:19:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: I need a dummies book
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D39EDA0.6010700@swbell.net>

On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:

> I'm not even 35 yet.  If I didn't feel like death on a
> cracker right now, this would be funny.  But sure, Bethany,
> if you decide to write Decrepitude for Dummies, I'll lend
> you some levity.

I see your role as more important than "lending some levity" like it's
just a varnish or an ingredient to be mixed in.

How I see it is, you both plan the structure; then Bethany writes her
version (possibly with other people); then you make the whole thing into a
different, saleable, possibly hilarious but more likely amusing,
best-seller.

The baby boomers aren't 65 yet.  I think you guys have maybe 5 years,
probably less, to get the product ready.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 16:22:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17087
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 16:22:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00149F88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 22:29:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13574060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 22:29:30 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6L2TUr06472 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 22:29:30 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6L2TTd23185 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:29:29 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207202127360.22845-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:29:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Farm holidays - human+beast (fwd)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

What do you suppose they mean by "no erotics"?

[I usually don't read my spam but I was interested in a farm holiday, I
thought it might be like Bonnie & Clyde in Tuscany or like that]

Ann

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:22:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: Goat Lover <GoatLover@hotmail.com>
To: aborkin@netcom.com
Subject: Farm holidays - human+beast

<body><center><a href="http://www.zveroeb.com/?revshare=OHB4Di!lHc!p8BsVA4mtex6v!Hu36Lhz8paOk7kiX8s-"><h1>XXX FARM HOLIDAYS</h1></a><p>
We have NO EROTICS<br>
Only best animal softcore and hardcore!<p>
Gota, Pigs, Dogs, Horses!<p>
<a href="http://www.zveroeb.com/?revshare=OHB4Di!lHc!p8BsVA4mtex6v!Hu36Lhz8paOk7kiX8s-">www.zveroeb.com</a><p><hr>
This is NOT SPAM - You have received this e-mail because at one time or
another you entered the weekly draw at one of our portals or FFA sites.
If you have received this e-mail in error, we apologize for the inconvenience and ask that you remove yourself.<br>
<a href="http://zveroeb.com/unsub.phtml?em=aborkin@netcom.com">[ CLICK HERE TO UNSUBSCRIBE ]</a><p><font color="#ffffff">OHB4Di!lHc!p8BsVA4mtex6v!Hu36Lhz8paOk7kiX8s-</body>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:49:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18493
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 17:49:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014A483@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 23:56:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13580478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 23:56:45 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe37.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.94]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6L3ujr15282 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 23:56:45 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          20 Jul 2002 20:55:16 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.69]
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2002 03:55:16.0594 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[6C918D20:01C2306A]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <OE37KzCcIV8zNAyrBLH0000333b@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 22:56:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Murray and Startkville
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I was talking to a former HS classmate at my great-uncle's burial (the
classmate's family now owns the property where the old cemetery is =
located;
the last burial there was in 1934). He is a veterinarian who went to vet
school in Starkville and did his undergrad in Murray. He was telling me =
that
the two towns are quite similar. (Of course the Startkville-based MSU is =
a
larger school that the Murray-based school.)

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:57:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18613
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 17:57:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014A562@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 0:04:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13581991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 00:03:44 -0400
Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6L43Ur16544 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          00:03:30 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6L43TF127628 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul
          2002 00:03:29 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEOKFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:02:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Farm holidays - human+beast (fwd)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207202127360.22845-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

I guess they don't think of goats, pigs, dogs or horses as *erotic.* So far,
I'm in agreement.

Sandra

>
> What do you suppose they mean by "no erotics"?
>
> [I usually don't read my spam but I was interested in a farm holiday, I
> thought it might be like Bonnie & Clyde in Tuscany or like that]
>
> Ann
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:22:14 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Goat Lover <GoatLover@hotmail.com>
> To: aborkin@netcom.com
> Subject: Farm holidays - human+beast
>
> <body><center><a
> href="http://www.zveroeb.com/?revshare=OHB4Di!lHc!p8BsVA4mtex6v!Hu
> 36Lhz8paOk7kiX8s-"><h1>XXX FARM HOLIDAYS</h1></a><p>
> We have NO EROTICS<br>
> Only best animal softcore and hardcore!<p>
> Gota, Pigs, Dogs, Horses!<p>
> <a
> href="http://www.zveroeb.com/?revshare=OHB4Di!lHc!p8BsVA4mtex6v!Hu
> 36Lhz8paOk7kiX8s-">www.zveroeb.com</a><p><hr>
> This is NOT SPAM - You have received this e-mail because at one time or
> another you entered the weekly draw at one of our portals or FFA sites.
> If you have received this e-mail in error, we apologize for the
> inconvenience and ask that you remove yourself.<br>
> <a href="http://zveroeb.com/unsub.phtml?em=aborkin@netcom.com">[
> CLICK HERE TO UNSUBSCRIBE ]</a><p><font
> color="#ffffff">OHB4Di!lHc!p8BsVA4mtex6v!Hu36Lhz8paOk7kiX8s-</body>
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 19:48:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA20383
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 19:48:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014AA40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 1:55:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13584947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 01:55:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6L5tYr23705 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 01:55:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8383D8449; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 22:55:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721055533.8383D8449@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 22:55:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201117130.24526-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 20, 2002 11:19: 1 am"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> Then I do not understand. Individuals who are not Pilates instructors
> become Pilates instructors, so it seems clear that the
> necessary information can be  imparted. Why is it not available on videos
> and in books?

You don't become a Pilates instructor by using videos and books.

Most of what happens in a Pilates session isn't visible. The muscles
you are using are deep muscles, not superficial ones. Your trainer
will spend a lot of time touching your body, looking for signs that
the proper muscles are activated, because it's not obvious. (Though
more experienced trainers are better at telling, most trainers will
have to touch you sometimes.)

Also, look at it this way:  it's all about you. If everything you have
ever known or felt or experienced were available in a book, a book
might be able to address all of that. But the fact is that human
beings are complex, and we spend most of our lives compensating
physically and mentally for difficulties or injuries we experience.  A
good Pilates trainer can help you stop compensating for physical
difficulties.

An example of the kind of thing I'm thinking of is props. Many people
resist using props, but they are useful, and help your body get strong
enough to work without the prop. The use of props is an art--choosing
the right prop at the right time for the right purpose. This is
something that books/videos can't go into enough detail on to make it
useful, because it depends on your body and your mind.

In fact, I can give a good example: when I was doing a mat class, the
instructor went on and on about sitting on a pad when doing Saw, so
your hips would be square. The fact is that this is something people
with short hamstrings have to do. And I don't have to do this--I have
greater-than-normal range of motion in my hamstrings, so even when
they are a little tight, I can sit square on the floor. On the other
hand, at that time, I couldn't do Rolling Like A Ball at all, because
I couldn't get my knees close enough to my chest. I learned how to use
props to get past this inability--from a trainer. We did a lot of
experimenting with different straps and positions that you don't have
time for in a class.

[I'm finishing this 14 hours after starting it, so I hope it still
makes sense.]

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 19:50:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA20400
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 19:50:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED9A9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 1:51:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13584958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 01:56:48 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6L5umr23746 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 01:56:48 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3C35E8446; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 22:56:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721055647.3C35E8446@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 22:56:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020720083424.00b0b610@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 20, 2002  8:34:52 am"

Betty said:
> At 11:19 AM 7/20/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > >> >I can guarantee you won't succeed.
> > >>
> > >> I love mindreaders!
> > >
> > >My estimate of your chances of success are not at all personal,
> > >Bethany.
> >
> >Then I do not understand. Individuals who are not Pilates instructors
> >become Pilates instructors, so it seems clear that the
> >necessary information can be  imparted. Why is it not available on videos
> >and in books?
>
> It is.

Not.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 19:50:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA20415
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 19:50:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED9AA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 1:51:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13584976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 01:57:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6L5vYr23804 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 01:57:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8B7DC8447; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 22:57:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721055733.8B7DC8447@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 22:57:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207201200480.24526-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 20, 2002 12: 2: 8 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >I would also pursue the trainer-working-out-of-their-home angle. PT
> >places usually know about Pilates, too--that's how I got into it.
>
> Thanks - I will keep looking/talking I have really been turned off by the
> studio attitude. They have all the equipment - but the attitude matters.

Pilates requires no equipment. Just a body and a mind.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 20:29:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA20998
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 20:29:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED9C2F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 2:30:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13586699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 02:36:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6L6aSr27711 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 02:36:28 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0E31E7F25; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 23:33:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721063357.0E31E7F25@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 23:33:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      My day with *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMENCFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 19, 2002 11:51:17 pm"

S Hess said:
> Hey, you're pretty loopy for this guy. Good for you!

I'm not sure what about what I said below led you to this conclusion,
but it's probably true.

> > I got a good look at his legs tonight, and I was not happy. I did tell
> > him that it's only supposed to last two weeks--he's just over the one
> > week mark. But it looks much worse than it did earlier this week.

Today, he came over around 11, intent on making me breakfast, but I
had just eaten. So he trimmed all of my trees for me, instead. And I
mowed the lawn, front and back, and did the edging. The tree-trimming
was major--my lawn, where we put the detritus, looks like there's a
whole nother tree there. He climbed up the tree in back, and I told
him I wanted to take a picture: '*er* in his natural habitat'.

This was all fairly grueling work, but it was fun to have someone to
help me with it. (And also to do the bits I couldn't--I couldn't have
gotten nearly as high as he did in the trees.) We finished around 3:30
or 4, and then he made me breakfast: amazing French toast. Vanilla and
cinammon, with Karsten-made raspberry jam. I made coffee, and we had
cointreau also. It was lovely.

After that, we were sitting around, trying to figure out what to do
next, when he said, "I'd love to go jump in the lake". And we looked
at each other and 15 minutes later, we were on our way. His boat is in
a kind of private park--so we were the only people in the water. (His
boat is broken, too--a broken mast.) It was fun. We watched sailboat
races (he races, so he talked a lot about the different boats, and how
they are handicapped, and so on--and I learned about hull speed), and
after we turned into prunes, went to the Austin Yacht Club and drank
free beer which made me burp all night and watched the sun set. We saw
a boat that had sunk in its mooring--I found it nauseating to look
at. We were driving back to Austin, and *er* suggested we go visit his
favorite restaurant, so we did, and talked to the belly dancer (a very
nice woman who had *er* for Christmas last year) and I met one of the
Tibetans with whom *er* has dinner several times a week. (It's a
Middle Eastern restaurant, but the kitchen staff is all Tibetan.)

Then we came back to my house and we made Japanese food--rice with
salmon, seaweed, and pickles, and spinach with sesame dressing. For
dessert, ice cream with Cointreau, Benedictine, and Averna. (He had
Benedictine, I had one dish with Cointreau and one with Averna--I'd
never had Averna till last night, and I highly recommend it.)

And then he left. I am replete.

I will not be providing daily *er* reports, however. I'm sure you are
all relieved.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 21:10:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21654
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 21:10:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014AD1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 3:16:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13587342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 03:17:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6L7Gxr30040 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 03:16:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1645D845B; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 00:16:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721071659.1645D845B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 00:16:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Electric stoves?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D35A8A1.2491.CF75874E@localhost> from Tony Harminc at "Jul 17,
              2002  5:25:53 pm"

Tony Harminc said:
> Either a fuse has gone in the stove, or a wire or connection has
> gone. The latter may have provoked the former. The fuses are probably
> under a flip-up lid along the top, back edge of the unit, but there
> are other places they could be. (I'm assuming this is not a builtin
> unit, but rather the typical sort of freestanding thing that usually
> sits between two stretches of countertop.)

What other places?

I asked *er* to find the fuses, and he couldn't. He did find that
there's a panel on the upper back that you need a wrench to get
off--that's where all the wiring goes to. Would they be in there?
Or in the cooktop somewhere?

He did show me a few other things about my stove that I didn't know,
and that was fun.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 21:40:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21852
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 14 Jun 1960 21:40:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03ED9D8D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 3:41:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13587828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 03:47:24 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6L7lOr31555 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          03:47:24 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6L7lN4150478 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul
          2002 03:47:24 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEONFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 00:45:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My day with *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020721063357.0E31E7F25@yellow.rahul.net>

> S Hess said:
> > Hey, you're pretty loopy for this guy. Good for you!
>
> I'm not sure what about what I said below led you to this conclusion,
> but it's probably true.

Count me in as Happy For You! :)

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 02:08:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA23550
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 02:08:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA0B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 8:09:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13574357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 08:14:53 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LC4qr15189 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:04:52 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6LC4qUh000687 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:04:52 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207210758530.7119-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:04:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020721055533.8383D8449@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>You don't become a Pilates instructor by using videos and books.

Right. And of course I was not talking about my becoming a P. instructor
- merely learning to stretch my body more and build more muscles.

>Most of what happens in a Pilates session isn't visible. The muscles
>you are using are deep muscles, not superficial ones. Your trainer ...
[rest deleted]

Good comments - thanks. I agree that hands-on is better. And if I could
get an appt. at the studio, I would happily pay the big bucks to do so. I
will continue looking for another instructor or try to have some sessions
when I am in a city with a studio where I can get an appt.

I will be attending a conf. at Stanford U. in the Fall, I am thinking of
spending a week in the SF area. Right now, I am trying to line up a
language & law presentation that will help fund it - if I can do that,
I will try to schedule some sessions there.

What kinds of things are used as <props>?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 04:54:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA26097
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 04:54:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014B94A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:01:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13577224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:01:15 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe28.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.85]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LF1Er25999 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:01:14 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          21 Jul 2002 08:01:09 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.67]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2002 15:01:09.0277 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[72392CD0:01C230C7]
Message-ID:  <OE28R6mJB526tr5XsCj00005c8e@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:02:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Server or sloth?

AS "It's 10 a.m. (somewhere). Do you know where your fellow meebers are?"

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 04:57:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA26123
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 04:57:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA3DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 10:58:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13577305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:04:11 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LF4Ar26462 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:04:10 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6LF4AQ16650 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          10:04:10 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <OE28R6mJB526tr5XsCj00005c8e@hotmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001201c230c8$15c1a580$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:05:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Server or sloth?
>
> AS "It's 10 a.m. (somewhere). Do you know where your fellow meebers
are?"

I'm on deck.  No sloth here.

         - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:00:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26160
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:00:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA3F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:01:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13577350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:07:05 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LF75r26716 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:07:05 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust150.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.152]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005408054@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:07:04 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE28R6mJB526tr5XsCj00005c8e@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3ACE8B.5F8E5E3C@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:08:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:
>
> Server or sloth?
>
I see you. I am working. No sloth I.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:06:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26198
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:06:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA413@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:07:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13577457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:12:59 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe15.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.119]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LFCwr27274 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:12:58 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          21 Jul 2002 08:12:53 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
References:  <OE28R6mJB526tr5XsCj00005c8e@hotmail.com> 
             <001201c230c8$15c1a580$360332d1@0018079268>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2002 15:12:53.0333 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[15DF9850:01C230C9]
Message-ID:  <OE15HcL2j5oF4ThbKHk00010c69@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:11:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Yogurt banana pancakes and cheese grits. British Open on television. Up
since eight. No sloths here.

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:21:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26279
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:21:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA48B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:22:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13577938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:28:03 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6LFS2r28809 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          11:28:02 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6LFS2427818 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          11:28:02 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEOPFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:26:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE15HcL2j5oF4ThbKHk00010c69@hotmail.com>

Watched Sunday Morning...up before 7am. I don't seem to be sleeping much
lately.

Sandra

>
> Yogurt banana pancakes and cheese grits. British Open on television. Up
> since eight. No sloths here.
>
> -aht
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:21:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26283
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:21:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA48D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:22:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13577957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:28:21 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LFSKr28860 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:28:21 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6LFSKUr021694 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:28:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <OE28R6mJB526tr5XsCj00005c8e@hotmail.com>
            <001201c230c8$15c1a580$360332d1@0018079268>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020721082753.00a2d5e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:28:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE15HcL2j5oF4ThbKHk00010c69@hotmail.com>

At 10:11 AM 7/21/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Yogurt banana pancakes and cheese grits. British Open on television. Up
>since eight. No sloths here.

Packing to go away to celebrate our 35th!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:27:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26308
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:26:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA4AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:27:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13578054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:33:27 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LFXRr29313 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:33:27 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust150.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.152]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005408379@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:33:26 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020721055647.3C35E8446@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <3D3AD4B7.1F1A51CD@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:35:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > [Bethany] Why is it not available on videos
> > >and in books?
> >
> > [Betty] It is.
>
> [Karen] Not.

Alyce asks: What are the following items, if not Pilates books available
for sale? Go to http://www.bookfinder.com to see this in greater detail.
Please ignore the couple of Pontius Pilate books--I did a loose keyword
search only.

Ackland, Lesley

    10 Step Pilates
    10 Step Pilates: Reshape Your Body and Transform Your Life
    15 Minute Pilates
    Pilates
    Pilates Body Power: Reshape Your Body, Transform Your Life
    Pilates for a Fabulous Body
    Pilates in a Box Book & Box
    Pilates: in a Box With Cards

Winsor, Mari

    The Pilates Powerhouse
    The Pilates Powerhouse: Body Conditioning for Strength, Flexibility
& the Shape You Have Always Wanted in Less
    Than an Hour a Day
    The Pilates Powerhouse Workout Journal: An Exercise Diary &
Conditioning Guide
    The Pilates Pregnancy: Maintaining Strength, Flexibility & Your
Figure
    THE PILATES PREGNANCY, THE LOW-IMPACT EXERCISE PROGRAMME FOR
MAINTAINING
    STRENGTH AND FLEXIBILITY
    Pilates Workout Journal : An Exercise Diary and Conditioning Guide

Dillman, Erika

    The Little Pilates Book

Robinson, Lynne

    Body Control: Using Techniques Developed by Joseph Pilates
    Intelligent Exercise with Pilates and Yoga
    The Official Body Control Pilates Manual
    Pilates Gym: The Balanced Workout
    Pilates: The Way Forward

Gallagher, Sean P.

    Pilates Method of Body Conditioning: Introduction to the Core
Exercises
    The Joseph H. Pilates Archive Collection: Photographs, Writings &
Designs

Kries, Jennifer

    Jennifer Kries' Pilates Plus Method: The Unique Combination of Yoga,
Dance, and Pilates
    Jennifer Kries' Pilates Plus Method

Menezes, Allan

    The Complete Guide to Joseph H. Pilates' Techniques of Physical
Conditioning.
    The Complete Guide to Joseph H. Pilates' Techniques of Physical
Conditioning: Applying the Priniciples of Body
    Control
    The Complete Guide to the Pilates Method

Siler, Brooke

    The Pilates Body
    The Pilates Body: The Ultimate at Home Guide to Strengthening,
Lengthening & Toning Your Body Without
    Machines
    Pilates Body: the Ultimate at-Home Guide to Strengthening,
Lengthening, and Ton.

Doolittle, Hilda

    Pilate's Wife

Karter, Karon

    The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Pilates Method

McKenzie, Eleanor

    The Joseph H. Pilates Method at Home: A Balance, Shape, Strength, &
Fitness Program
    Joseph H Pilates Method at Home a Balanc











See Also:

[Unknown]

    Dk Secrets Of Pilates
    Pilates.
    Pilates At Home
    Pilates On The Ball
    The Pilates Workout Journal: An Exercise Diary and Conditioning
Guide [Spiral.

Craig, Colleen

    Pilates on the Ball: The World's Most Popular Workout Using the
Execise Ball

Friedman, Philip; Eisen, Gail

    The Pilates Method of Physical and Mental Conditioning

Giberson,

    The Pilates Reformer: A Manual for Instructors

Kelly, Emily

    Emily Kelly's Commonsense Pilates

King, Michael

    Pilates Workbook: An Illustrated Step-by-Step Guide to Matwork
Techniques

Mari Winsor;Mark Laska

    The Pilates Powerhouse: The Essential Home Guide for Improving
Strength, Tone, Shape and Balance

Meeus, Cathy

    Pilates
    Secrets of Pilates

Pilates, Joseph H.

    Pilates' Return to Life Through Contrology
    Your Health

Stewart, Kellina

    Pilates for Beginners

Baer, Dallas C.

    Pilate's questions and Christ's words: Lenten sermons

Bloom, Ursula

    Pilate's Wife

Blount, Trevor. Eleanor McKenzie.

    Die Pilates Methode. Leichte Übungen für zu Hause.

By Mari Winsor with M. Laska

    THE PILATES WORKOUT JOURNAL.

CRAIG C

    Pilates On The Ball

Carter, Lin

    Sky Pilates Of Callisto

Crawford, Elisabeth

    Balance on the Ball: Exercises Inspired by the Teachings of Joseph
Pilates

FRIEDMAN PHILIP

    Pilates Method Of Physical & Mental Cond

Gertrud von le Fort

    The Wife Of Pilate

H.D.

    PILATE'S WIFE

Jean Damase

    Pilates Wife

KARTER K

    Cig Pilates

Karter.

    Complete Idiot. Pilates Method.

MENEZES A

    Compl Gde To The Pilates Method

MEUS, CATHY

    Dk Secrets Of Pilates

Maier, Paul L.

    Pontius Pilate

Mark Laska

    Pilates Workout Journal

Pilates : Creating the Body You Want

    Selby Anna; Herdman Alan; Petre Helena (editor)

Pilates Joseph

    Body Control

Pilates, Joseph Hubertus

    Your Health: a Corrective System of Exercising That Revolutionizes
the Entire Field of Physical Education

ROBINSON/THOMSON

    PILATES-THE WAY FORWARD

Robbins, Judd

    A Pilates' Primer: The Millennium Edition: Return to Life Through
Contrology & Your Health

Robinson Lynne & Thomson Gordon

    Body Control the Pilates Way

Romana Kryzanowska

    The Pilates Method of Body Conditioning

Saraswati, Swami Janakananda; Sheila La Farge.

    Yoga, Tantra and Meditation in Your Daily Life.

Searle, Sally

    Pilates

Selby Anna; Herdman Alan; Petre Helena (editor)

    Pilates : Creating the Body You Want

Selby, Anna

    Body Conditioning: A Program Based on the Techniques of Joseph
Pilates

WINSOR/LASKA

    Pilates Pregnancy

WITHERINGTON B

    Pilates Back Bk

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:32:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26340
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:32:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA4CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:32:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13578185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:38:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LFcYr29802 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:38:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E9DE3854E; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 08:38:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721153833.E9DE3854E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:38:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3AD4B7.1F1A51CD@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 21,
              2002 11:35:19 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > [Bethany] Why is it not available on videos
> > > >and in books?
> > >
> > > [Betty] It is.
> >
> > [Karen] Not.
>
> Alyce asks: What are the following items, if not Pilates books available
> for sale?

I guess my earlier post wasn't clear.

I'm not denying that there are Pilates books and videos for sale, just
that you can learn Pilates from them. I own a zillion Pilates books.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:33:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26357
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:33:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA4CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:33:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13578199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:39:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LFdcr29860 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:39:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 36BCA8550; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 08:39:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721153938.36BCA8550@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:39:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020721082753.00a2d5e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 21, 2002  8:28:31 am"

Betty said:
> Packing to go away to celebrate our 35th!

Where?

35 years of Bad Betty hanging out windows to attract men.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:34:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26383
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:34:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA4D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:35:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13578217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:41:10 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LFfAr29959 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:41:10 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-135.panax.com
          [63.163.41.135]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6LFf8j09806 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          11:41:08 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <OE15HcL2j5oF4ThbKHk00010c69@hotmail.com>
            <OE28R6mJB526tr5XsCj00005c8e@hotmail.com>
            <001201c230c8$15c1a580$360332d1@0018079268>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020721113754.00a06370@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:41:03 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020721082753.00a2d5e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

>Packing to go away to celebrate our 35th!
>Betty

Between and betwixt, she is taking her turn at Scrabble, coming from behind
and about to beat me, I'm afraid.

I've been up and about, walked to town for the newspapers.  Another clear,
beautiful day on Mount Desert Island and here in Bar Harbor, formerly known
as Eden.

We went to a Tattoo last night which was held at Fort Knox on the Penobscot
River.  It was awesome.  Well, it wasn't quite as polished as the Tattoo at
the Edinburgh Castle.  But, at the end, it did have a lone piper in full
regalia playing Amazing Grace.  At one point there where 33 pipers playing
together.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:36:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26390
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:36:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA4E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:37:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13578273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:42:54 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LFgsr30192 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:42:54 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-135.panax.com
          [63.163.41.135]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6LFgqj10021 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          11:42:53 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <4.2.2.20020721082753.00a2d5e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020721114230.00a10e10@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:42:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020721153938.36BCA8550@yellow.rahul.net>

>35 years of Bad Betty hanging out windows to attract men.:)
>Karen

I have also now heard that story.  It's a good one.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:37:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26394
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:37:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA4E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:38:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13578296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:43:47 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LFhlr30261 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:43:47 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0D9C084D7; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 08:43:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721154347.0D9C084D7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:43:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207210758530.7119-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 21, 2002  8: 4:52 am"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> I will be attending a conf. at Stanford U. in the Fall, I am thinking of
> spending a week in the SF area. Right now, I am trying to line up a
> language & law presentation that will help fund it - if I can do that,
> I will try to schedule some sessions there.

If you are at Stanford, you should call my former trainer as soon as
you know you're going--she's in Mountain View, about 20 minutes from
Stanford. I can't recommend her too highly.

> What kinds of things are used as <props>?

Straps, therabands, balls, pillows of various shapes and sizes, boxes
of various shapes and sizes. Don't forget that the purpose of the
equipment is only to make you strong enough to do the mat work. The
mat work is the heart of it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:38:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26398
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:38:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA4E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:39:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13578310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:44:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LFior30309 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:44:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A043E8553; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 08:44:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721154449.A043E8553@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:44:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020721114230.00a10e10@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 21, 2002 11:42:48 am"

bonniev said:
> >35 years of Bad Betty hanging out windows to attract men.:)
> >Karen
>
> I have also now heard that story.  It's a good one.

Yes, I think so. It's very revealing.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:39:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26407
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:39:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA4EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:39:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13578327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:45:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LFjer30392 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:45:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B060E8520; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 08:45:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721154539.B060E8520@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:45:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My day with *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEONFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 21, 2002  0:45:51 am"

S Hess said:
> > S Hess said:
> > > Hey, you're pretty loopy for this guy. Good for you!
> >
> > I'm not sure what about what I said below led you to this conclusion,
> > but it's probably true.
>
> Count me in as Happy For You! :)

I'd be happier, I think, if he were loopy for me, but he's not.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:41:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26445
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:41:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA4F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:42:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13578369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:47:58 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6LFlwr30629 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:47:58 -0400
Received: from hppav (216.249.158.65) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex 6.5.007)
          id 3D0A970400151BFE for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          10:44:16 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <018d01c230ce$33e2e820$439ef9d8@hppav>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:49:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      My Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I'm in the midst (exactly) of affixing 15 framed lithographs of Our Solar
System that the kind librarian gave to me (sans cadres) at the main campus
library (which has a NASA depository of all kinds of cool stuff for grabs).
Master Carl shall be surprised when he returns this afternoon from Grandma's
house.

AS, Slave Mom

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:43:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26450
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:43:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA500@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:44:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13578403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:49:43 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LFnhr30867 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:49:43 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-135.panax.com
          [63.163.41.135]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6LFngj10784 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          11:49:42 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEONFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020721114842.00a149a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:49:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: My day with *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020721154539.B060E8520@yellow.rahul.net>

>I'd be happier, I think, if he were loopy for me, but he's not.
>Karen

It sure sounds like he is.  Why would he hang out with you day after day if
he didn't like you?  You grow on a person, Karen.  I like you a lot better
now than I did in 1991.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:43:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26454
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:43:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA501@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:44:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13578407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:49:56 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LFnur30883 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:49:56 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6LFntqA013163 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:49:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020721082753.00a2d5e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020721084946.00a2a4d0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:50:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020721153938.36BCA8550@yellow.rahul.net>

At 08:39 AM 7/21/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > Packing to go away to celebrate our 35th!
>
>Where?
>
>35 years of Bad Betty hanging out windows to attract men.:)

Half Moon Bay

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:44:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26488
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:44:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA504@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:45:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13578419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:51:18 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LFpHr31062 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:51:17 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6LFpGqA014008 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:51:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020721082753.00a2d5e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020721085107.00a2fa40@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:51:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020721153938.36BCA8550@yellow.rahul.net>

At 08:39 AM 7/21/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > Packing to go away to celebrate our 35th!
>
>Where?
>
>35 years of Bad Betty hanging out windows to attract men.:)

Hey, I only had to do it once!  It was successful.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:55:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26555
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:55:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA553@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:56:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13578713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 12:02:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LG2Rr32233 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:02:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 37AA2855B; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 09:02:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721160227.37AA2855B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 09:02:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My day with *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020721114842.00a149a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 21, 2002 11:49:37 am"

bonniev said:
> >I'd be happier, I think, if he were loopy for me, but he's not.
> >Karen
>
> It sure sounds like he is.  Why would he hang out with you day after day if
> he didn't like you?

There's a lot of difference between liking and being loopy. I know he
likes me.

> You grow on a person, Karen.  I like you a lot better
> now than I did in 1991.

Oh, good, maybe in 11 years, he'll be loopy about me.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:56:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26559
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:56:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA555@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:57:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13578722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 12:02:46 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LG2jr32248 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:02:46 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4E0E38564; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 09:02:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721160245.4E0E38564@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 09:02:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020721084946.00a2a4d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 21, 2002  8:50: 6 am"

Betty said:
> Half Moon Bay

Nice!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:56:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26569
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 05:56:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA56D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 11:57:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13578857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 12:03:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LG3Cr32608 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:03:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id ECBDF8564; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 09:03:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721160311.ECBDF8564@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 09:03:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020721085107.00a2fa40@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 21, 2002  8:51:27 am"

Betty said:
> At 08:39 AM 7/21/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Betty said:
> > > Packing to go away to celebrate our 35th!
> >
> >Where?
> >
> >35 years of Bad Betty hanging out windows to attract men.:)
>
> Hey, I only had to do it once!  It was successful.

It sure was--you did good.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 06:01:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26604
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 06:01:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA57F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 12:01:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13578959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 12:07:33 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LG7Xr00503 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:07:33 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZL00CTJWSKGE@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:07:32 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207202115410.22291-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Message-ID:  <3D3ADBE6.7020101@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:05:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: I need a dummies book
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>I'm not even 35 yet.  If I didn't feel like death on a
>>cracker right now, this would be funny.  But sure, Bethany,
>>if you decide to write Decrepitude for Dummies, I'll lend
>>you some levity.
>>
>
> I see your role as more important than "lending some levity" like it's
> just a varnish or an ingredient to be mixed in.
>
> How I see it is, you both plan the structure; then Bethany writes her
> version (possibly with other people); then you make the whole thing into a
> different, saleable, possibly hilarious but more likely amusing,
> best-seller.
>
> The baby boomers aren't 65 yet.  I think you guys have maybe 5 years,
> probably less, to get the product ready.
>


        I think it needs a chapter on drug interactions with
marijuana... and the "new dealer."  I mean, how does one
score a dime bag after your children have taken away your
license?  I predict that certain bingo games will gain a
reputation as THE ones to go to.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 06:10:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26688
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 06:10:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA5A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 12:11:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13579117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 12:17:12 -0400
Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LGHCr01166 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:17:12 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.cb.255bfb5d (4365) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          12:17:05 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  7bit
Message-ID:  <cb.255bfb5d.2a6c3881@aol.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:17:05 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Didn't get to sleep until 4, woke up at 7, watched Westworld last night.

After I worked 3 weeks of open-to-close five days a week, my manager
gave me my review yesterday; she ripped me up one side and down the
other.  That's gratitude for you; she's a bitch:  use you up and put you
down when she doesn't need you anymore.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 06:12:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26712
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 06:12:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014BB7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 12:18:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13579150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 12:18:34 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6LGIXr01246 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          12:18:33 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6LGIX4373602 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul
          2002 12:18:33 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEPCFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 09:16:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020721082753.00a2d5e0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

Congratulations! Have a wonderful time.

Sandra

> At 10:11 AM 7/21/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >Yogurt banana pancakes and cheese grits. British Open on television. Up
> >since eight. No sloths here.
>
> Packing to go away to celebrate our 35th!
>
> Betty
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 06:14:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26733
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 06:14:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA5C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 12:14:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13579198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 12:20:31 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6LGKUr01418 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          12:20:30 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6LGKU4164648 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul
          2002 12:20:30 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEPDFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 09:18:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My day with *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020721114842.00a149a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

Yes, why do you think he is not loopy for you?

Sch.

> >I'd be happier, I think, if he were loopy for me, but he's not.
> >Karen
>
> It sure sounds like he is.  Why would he hang out with you day
> after day if
> he didn't like you?  You grow on a person, Karen.  I like you a lot better
> now than I did in 1991.
>
>
>     --bonniev
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 06:27:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26848
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 06:27:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014BBD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 12:33:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13579432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 12:33:58 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LGXwr02314 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:33:58 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6LGXuq17636 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:33:56 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207211131040.17099-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:33:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020721084946.00a2a4d0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

> Half Moon Bay

At some new richly appointed fancy big place?  Just you two, or a family
event?

Hope the fog burns off.

Congratulations Larry, Congratulations Betty, Happy Anniversary, dears

Ann
[sloth, you're probably already gone]

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 07:02:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27063
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 07:02:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA6FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 13:03:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13580290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 13:09:15 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6LH9Fr05010 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          13:09:15 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6LH9E420038 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          13:09:14 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEPEFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:07:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Venting
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I just got a call from my 15 yr old CASA girl. She asked if I knew where she
was. I said "no." She said she wasn't at her foster home. She said she was
placed last night (late) at a group home (a locked down group home). Turns
out the police learned that the woman who is the respite worker (a
babysitter of sorts for the foster mom who goes on a 4-6 week vacation every
summer w/o the kids...the babysitter has been filling in for years) is not
qualified to be a respite worker and is keeping the kids out too late. True.
I've been bitching to my CASA supervisor that the kids are locked out of
their home from 8am to 6pm M-F and til 9pm on Saturdays. None have keys to
their home. But I don't think that's illegal. I'm not sure how this has come
about, but all I know is my kid is now in a locked down group home and can't
see anyone or go anywhere for 2 weeks. Maybe one of the girls got picked up
for something and this came to light. But my kid feels like she is being
punished by being in this new group home. She's now separated from the home
she's had for over 2.5 yrs and her best friend/roommate is in a different
foster home. The four girls were taken away late last night.

She is remarkably calm about this...but not happy and this is just another
reason for her to stay hard-hearted. No wonder she always threatens to go
off. I don't blame her.

This is such bullshit.

Maybe if I buy a house, I should become a foster mom. I'm sure I'd be less
than perfect, but I could do better than that.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 07:13:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27129
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 07:13:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014BD15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 13:19:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13580428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 13:19:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LHJnr05636 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 13:19:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 58F018585; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 10:19:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721171949.58F018585@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:19:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Venting
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEPEFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 21, 2002 10: 7:37 am"

S Hess said:
> I've been bitching to my CASA supervisor that the kids are locked out of
> their home from 8am to 6pm M-F and til 9pm on Saturdays.

Jesus! This is an invitation to trouble. What the fuck are they
supposed to do till then?

> But my kid feels like she is being
> punished by being in this new group home. She's now separated from the home
> she's had for over 2.5 yrs and her best friend/roommate is in a different
> foster home. The four girls were taken away late last night.

This sucks.

> She is remarkably calm about this...but not happy and this is just another
> reason for her to stay hard-hearted. No wonder she always threatens to go
> off. I don't blame her.

Nor do I. I think it's important for her to know that her feelings of
anger and resentment are perfectly justified.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 07:22:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27166
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 07:22:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014BD62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 13:29:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13580693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 13:29:14 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6LHTEr06397 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          13:29:14 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6LHTD4410694 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul
          2002 13:29:13 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEPFFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:27:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Venting
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020721171949.58F018585@yellow.rahul.net>

I just called her foster mom in Georgia or Alabama...not which. She is
coming back on Tues to straighten things out. She said she'll fight to have
B (keeping her name anonymous) returned...as well as the other girls. She
said the respite worker has been fingerprinted and her name is on the card
of allowed respite workers. Regardless, the girls, as B put it to me the
other day, shouldn't be encouraged to be on the streets, but off them. On
the other hand, B refuses to go to summer school (I basically understand
why) and says she's had it with "centers." She's done with them. What she'd
like is to be able to stay home, but with the foster mom working, it's not
possible. I guess it's not unlike living at a hostel where you are locked
out every day. But having no real access to your home doesn't do much for
teaching you how to have a home or raise a family of your own. The system
sucks.

Sandra

> S Hess said:
> > I've been bitching to my CASA supervisor that the kids are locked out of
> > their home from 8am to 6pm M-F and til 9pm on Saturdays.
>
> Jesus! This is an invitation to trouble. What the fuck are they
> supposed to do till then?
>
> > But my kid feels like she is being
> > punished by being in this new group home. She's now separated
> from the home
> > she's had for over 2.5 yrs and her best friend/roommate is in a
> different
> > foster home. The four girls were taken away late last night.
>
> This sucks.
>
> > She is remarkably calm about this...but not happy and this is
> just another
> > reason for her to stay hard-hearted. No wonder she always
> threatens to go
> > off. I don't blame her.
>
> Nor do I. I think it's important for her to know that her feelings of
> anger and resentment are perfectly justified.
>
> Karen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 07:29:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27218
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 07:29:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA790@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 13:30:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13580826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 13:36:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LHa0r06887 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 13:36:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AC8478590; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 10:35:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721173559.AC8478590@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:35:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Venting
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEPFFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 21, 2002 10:27:38 am"

S Hess said:
> Regardless, the girls, as B put it to me the
> other day, shouldn't be encouraged to be on the streets, but off them. On
> the other hand, B refuses to go to summer school (I basically understand
> why) and says she's had it with "centers." She's done with them. What she'd
> like is to be able to stay home, but with the foster mom working, it's not
> possible. I guess it's not unlike living at a hostel where you are locked
> out every day. But having no real access to your home doesn't do much for
> teaching you how to have a home or raise a family of your own. The system
> sucks.

Yep.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:12:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27459
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 08:12:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014BEF4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 14:19:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13581721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 14:19:22 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LI9Mr09426 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:09:22 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6LI9LUh020975 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:09:22 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211403420.8938-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:09:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Pilates instructor
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I have found an instructor, Karen! One cathedral choir member is a
dancer, so I asked her if she knew one - and lucked out. Her daughter is a
certified P. instructor who lives in nearby Maryville. We will talk later
about logistics. I may have to join the gym that she teaches at, though I
have offered to pay for private lessons not at the gym. This will probably
be less expensive than the Knoxville studio either way, and I can
probably arrange private mat sessions.

Thanks for the comments about <props> - I had assumed from reading that
those things were standard Pilates things.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:15:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27486
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 08:15:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0014BF10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 14:21:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13581773 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 14:21:44 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LIBir09555 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:11:44 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6LIBhUh021405 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:11:43 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211410060.8938-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:11:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020721154347.0D9C084D7@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>If you are at Stanford, you should call my former trainer as soon as
>you know you're going--she's in Mountain View, about 20 minutes from
>Stanford. I can't recommend her too highly.

I will definitely be there. I'm not certain of my dates yet (I may spend a
full week,but will definitely spend at least 5 days), but I will
definitely go. May I have a name?

Thanks,
Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:16:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27490
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 08:16:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA8E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 14:17:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13581802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 14:22:59 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LICxr09637 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:12:59 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6LICwUh021606 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:12:58 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211412230.8938-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:12:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <cb.255bfb5d.2a6c3881@aol.com>

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>After I worked 3 weeks of open-to-close five days a week, my manager
>gave me my review yesterday; she ripped me up one side and down the
>other.  That's gratitude for you; she's a bitch:  use you up and put you
>down when she doesn't need you anymore.

Ooooooooo. Want me to come slug her?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:25:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27498
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 08:25:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA92A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 14:26:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13582356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 14:31:53 -0400
Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LIVrr11077 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:31:53 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.6e.1fd1ee87 (4315) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          14:31:44 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <6e.1fd1ee87.2a6c5810@aol.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:31:44 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/21/2002 1:23:01 PM Central Daylight Time,
dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes:

<<
Ooooooooo. Want me to come slug her?


>>

I wish.  She was mad that I had complained to someone else about
the 50-60 hour weeks and said that she could reduce my schedule
to 5 hours a week if she wanted to.  She also ridiculed me for not
being able to go up the stairs to the loft because I need to have a
handrail going all the way up; she said that I could get someone to
lead me up there by the hand.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:37:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27568
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 08:37:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA97F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 14:37:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13582383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 14:43:28 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LIXSr11190 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:33:28 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6LIXSUh025232 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:33:28 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211431450.8938-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:33:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I need a dummies book
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3ADBE6.7020101@swbell.net>

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:

>        I think it needs a chapter on drug interactions with
>marijuana... and the "new dealer."  I mean, how does one
>score a dime bag after your children have taken away your
>license?  I predict that certain bingo games will gain a
>reputation as THE ones to go to.

This puzzled me at first. How do you get a license to buy a dime
bag? Maybe that would raise some tax dollars in TN?

But I supppose you mean driver's license?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:38:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27591
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 08:38:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA989@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 14:39:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13582403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 14:44:48 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LIYmr11254 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:34:48 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6LIYlUh025503 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:34:47 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211434130.8938-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:34:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <6e.1fd1ee87.2a6c5810@aol.com>

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>I wish.  She was mad that I had complained to someone else about
>the 50-60 hour weeks and said that she could reduce my schedule
>to 5 hours a week if she wanted to.  She also ridiculed me for not
>being able to go up the stairs to the loft because I need to have a
>handrail going all the way up; she said that I could get someone to
>lead me up there by the hand.

Hmmm. There may be a plan here ...

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:39:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27599
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 08:39:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA99C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 14:40:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13582434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 14:46:07 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LIa6r11355 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:36:06 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6LIa6Uh025744 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:36:06 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211435170.8938-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:36:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I need a dummies book
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3ADBE6.7020101@swbell.net>

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:

>        I think it needs a chapter on drug interactions with
>marijuana... and the "new dealer."  I mean, how does one
>score a dime bag after your children have taken away your
>license?  I predict that certain bingo games will gain a
>reputation as THE ones to go to.

Don't cab drivers deliver?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:40:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27603
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 08:40:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA99E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 14:41:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13582730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 14:46:50 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LIkor12037 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:46:50 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust161.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.163]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004100593@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 14:46:50 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211434130.8938-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3B0208.6CF9E80E@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:48:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
> because I need to have a
> >handrail going all the way up; she said that I could get someone to
> >lead me up there by the hand.
>
> Hmmm. There may be a plan here ..

Really. Surely worker safety laws require handrails on all stairs. Time
to sue. I heard the other night on a financial show that Sears is
cash-rich at this time.

alyce
>
> Bethany


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:42:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27615
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 08:42:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA9AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 14:42:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13582779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 14:48:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LImdr12185 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:48:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E5B2581CA; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:48:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721184838.E5B2581CA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:48:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates instructor
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211403420.8938-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 21, 2002  2: 9:21 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> This will probably
> be less expensive than the Knoxville studio either way, and I can
> probably arrange private mat sessions.

Think 'private session', Bethany. Not private mat session--that
doesn't really make sense. In a private session, you will work on
stuff that will enable you to do the matwork, but often it's an
indirect effect.

Pilates is sort of like catching Maria more than it is using a
treadmill.

> Thanks for the comments about <props> - I had assumed from reading that
> those things were standard Pilates things.

The repertoire of props is more or less standard in physical fitness.
But using them is, IMHO, an art.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:43:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27628
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 08:43:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA9B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 14:43:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13582807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 14:49:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LIndr12256 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:49:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6CD107C3B; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 11:49:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721184938.6CD107C3B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:49:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates & $
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211410060.8938-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 21, 2002  2:11:43 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> >If you are at Stanford, you should call my former trainer as soon as
> >you know you're going--she's in Mountain View, about 20 minutes from
> >Stanford. I can't recommend her too highly.
>
> I will definitely be there. I'm not certain of my dates yet (I may spend a
> full week,but will definitely spend at least 5 days), but I will
> definitely go. May I have a name?

Teresa Maldonado. I'll look for a phone number.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:46:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27638
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 08:46:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA9C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 14:47:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13582867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 14:53:14 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LIrEr12473 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:53:14 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-153.panax.com
          [63.163.41.153]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6LIrCj31909 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          14:53:13 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020721145228.00a0dbd0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:53:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Venting
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEPEFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

>Maybe if I buy a house, I should become a foster mom. I'm sure I'd be less
>than perfect, but I could do better than that.
>Sandra

But you can't save them all.  You need to harden your heart a little and
protect your own self.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:50:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27646
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 08:50:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDA9DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 14:51:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13582958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 14:57:12 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6LIvCr12750 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          14:57:12 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6LIvB4135306 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul
          2002 14:57:11 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEPIFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:55:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <6e.1fd1ee87.2a6c5810@aol.com>

She's outrageous. I once worked for a woman like her....my first fulltime
gig out of college. I tolerated a lot of bs for 3.5 years. Then, she pushed
me over the edge. She told me to do something (it was very demeaning) or to
walk out. I chose to walk out. When I put my keys to the office on her
desk...she closed her door. Apologized. Truth is, she needed me to stay. We
were doing a gubernatorial campaign and I'd become someone she leaned
on...she depended on me. So, I took a few days off, told her I'd think about
returning...and then demanded a 50% raise (I got it) and a $3k bonus when I
would leave after the primary. Then, I told her off. I made it personal,
too. She deserved it. She never again tread on me. And then I got back to
business. I've never let anyone walk all over me to the extent I had let
her. It's just not in me. She was extreme...and she was not like this to
others. Something about our dynamics, I gather. But it felt good to stand up
for myself. She embarassed me several times (earlier) in front of others. I
can't believe I took that. No more.

Sandra

> I wish.  She was mad that I had complained to someone else about
> the 50-60 hour weeks and said that she could reduce my schedule
> to 5 hours a week if she wanted to.  She also ridiculed me for not
> being able to go up the stairs to the loft because I need to have a
> handrail going all the way up; she said that I could get someone to
> lead me up there by the hand.
>
> Evelyn Duncan
> brandykitt@aol.com
>
> Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:53:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27655
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 08:53:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDAA05@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 14:54:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13583107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 14:59:47 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6LIxkr13027 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          14:59:46 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-229-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.229.119]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6LIxk452500 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          14:59:46 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEPIFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:58:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Venting
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020721145228.00a0dbd0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

Perhaps....but...easier said than done. It's just my nature. Even my name,
Sandra, is a derivation of Alexander...protector. I'm very loyal and very
protective of those I care for. I was even a member of the Guardian Angels.
Always work for nonprofits. I'm just made that way. I try to take the energy
that's created when I get pissed off by an unjustice and use it
positively....to fix things or at least address them.

Sandra

> >Maybe if I buy a house, I should become a foster mom. I'm sure
> I'd be less
> >than perfect, but I could do better than that.
> >Sandra
>
> But you can't save them all.  You need to harden your heart a little and
> protect your own self.
>
>
>     --bonniev
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:55:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27678
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 08:55:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDAA13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 14:56:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13582846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 15:01:44 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LIpir12379 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:51:44 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6LIphUh030082 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:51:43 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211449080.8938-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:51:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates instructor
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020721184838.E5B2581CA@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>Think 'private session', Bethany. Not private mat session--that
>doesn't really make sense. In a private session, you will work on
>stuff that will enable you to do the matwork, but often it's an
>indirect effect.

That makes sense - but I kind of got burned when the studio here said
that I could have a private session only on the equipment, not using a
mat.

> >Pilates is sort of like catching Maria more than it is using a
>treadmill.

LOL! Great comment! I'll tell her! Maybe owning her has been getting me
ready for Pilates!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:56:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27682
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 08:56:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDAA16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 14:56:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13582860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 15:02:30 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LIqUr12442 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:52:30 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6LIqTUh030303 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:52:29 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211452070.8938-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:52:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3B0208.6CF9E80E@valstar.net>

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

>> because I need to have a
>> >handrail going all the way up; she said that I could get someone to
>> >lead me up there by the hand.
>>
>> Hmmm. There may be a plan here ..
>
>Really. Surely worker safety laws require handrails on all stairs. Time
>to sue. I heard the other night on a financial show that Sears is
>cash-rich at this time.

Yes ...

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 09:05:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27731
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 09:05:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDAA70@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 15:06:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13583554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 15:12:21 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LJCKr14442 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:12:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 305E47E52; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 12:12:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020721191220.305E47E52@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:12:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates instructor
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211449080.8938-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 21, 2002  2:51:43 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >Think 'private session', Bethany. Not private mat session--that
> >doesn't really make sense. In a private session, you will work on
> >stuff that will enable you to do the matwork, but often it's an
> >indirect effect.
>
> That makes sense - but I kind of got burned when the studio here said
> that I could have a private session only on the equipment, not using a
> mat.

What difference does it make to you what kind of session you have? If
you specifically asked for a private mat session, I can see why they
were confused. Seriously. I think I mentioned that the only purpose of
the machines is to enable the matwork. I have had many sessions where
we don't touch the machines at all--one of the most grueling sessions
I've ever had was with Wendy, "The Torturess", and I think that was on
the ball and mat. But the point is that the session may be anything at
all you and your trainer decide it to be. Your goal is to be able to
do the matwork on your own--but even after 4 years, I still can't do
it all.

> > >Pilates is sort of like catching Maria more than it is using a
> >treadmill.
>
> LOL! Great comment! I'll tell her! Maybe owning her has been getting me
> ready for Pilates!

That part of you, for sure.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 09:40:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27861
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 09:40:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDAB56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 15:41:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13584038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 15:46:45 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LJajr16206 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:36:45 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6LJajUh006222 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:36:45 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211536250.9969-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:36:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEPIFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, S Hess wrote:

>business. I've never let anyone walk all over me to the extent I had let
>her. It's just not in me. She was extreme...and she was not like this to
>others. Something about our dynamics, I gather. But it felt good to stand up
>for myself. She embarassed me several times (earlier) in front of others. I
>can't believe I took that. No more.

Bravo!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 09:42:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27909
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 09:42:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDAB66@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 15:43:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13584112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 15:48:43 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LJchr16431 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:38:43 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6LJcgUh006522 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:38:42 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211537320.9969-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:38:42 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates instructor
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020721191220.305E47E52@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>What difference does it make to you what kind of session you have? If
>you specifically asked for a private mat session, I can see why they

For some reason, I thought that you had specifically recommended mat work
rather than machines.

Also, I don't have the machines at home, so cannot replicate machine work
at home.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 10:11:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28245
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 10:11:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014C44E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 16:18:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13585353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 16:18:13 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LKIDr19816 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 16:18:13 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZM00A1Y8ECM0@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:18:13 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211452070.8938-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D3B16A6.8090108@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:16:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:
>
>
>>>because I need to have a
>>>
>>>>handrail going all the way up; she said that I could get someone to
>>>>lead me up there by the hand.
>>>>
>>>Hmmm. There may be a plan here ..
>>>
>>Really. Surely worker safety laws require handrails on all stairs. Time
>>to sue. I heard the other night on a financial show that Sears is
>>cash-rich at this time.
>>
>
> Yes ...
>


        I think Evelyn could probably sue them under the ADA.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 10:43:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28671
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 10:43:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDAD4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 16:43:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13586073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 16:49:29 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LKnTr22028 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 16:49:29 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust170.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.172]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005413059@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 16:49:29 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211452070.8938-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D3B16A6.8090108@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3B1EC5.10E616F@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 16:51:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:>
> >
>         I think Evelyn could probably sue them under the ADA.

Yup.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 11:54:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29713
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 11:54:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB19D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 17:55:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13589460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 18:00:52 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LM0pr27827 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:00:52 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZM00CKED5FJA@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:00:51 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211435170.8938-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Message-ID:  <3D3B2EB4.10503@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 16:59:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: I need a dummies book
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>       I think it needs a chapter on drug interactions with
>>marijuana... and the "new dealer."  I mean, how does one
>>score a dime bag after your children have taken away your
>>license?  I predict that certain bingo games will gain a
>>reputation as THE ones to go to.
>>
>
> Don't cab drivers deliver?
>


        I have no idea. This is why such a chapter is necessary...
how do baby boomers maintain their rec. drug use into their
retirement years?  Isn't it more expensive via cab?
Wouldn't that require altering one's investment strategy?



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 11:59:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29757
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 11:59:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB1E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 18:00:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13589688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 18:06:16 -0400
Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LM6Gr28265 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:06:16 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.128.14b164c8 (4446) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul
          2002 18:06:13 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <128.14b164c8.2a6c8a55@aol.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:06:13 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/21/2002 1:45:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes:

<<
Hmmm. There may be a plan here ...

>>

I hope so; she's the reason so many people have left.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 12:01:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29797
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 12:01:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB1F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 18:02:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13589736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 18:08:02 -0400
Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LM81r28407 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:08:01 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.c9.256b3b4a (4446) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          18:07:52 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <c9.256b3b4a.2a6c8ab8@aol.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:07:52 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/21/2002 1:47:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
alybooks@VALSTAR.NET writes:

<<
Really. Surely worker safety laws require handrails on all stairs.
>>

The handrail stops at the 5th step from the top; that's all the farther
up the stairs I can go.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 12:05:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29858
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 12:05:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB21A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 18:06:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13589870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 18:11:57 -0400
Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LMBvr28696 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:11:57 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.57.eb19dc2 (4446) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          18:11:49 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <57.eb19dc2.2a6c8ba5@aol.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:11:49 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/21/2002 3:18:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes:

<<
I think Evelyn could probably sue them under the ADA.

>>

I talked to Kathie; she said that OSHA was the organization
to go to; that the ADA wouldn't hurt them financially.  But I
will mention the ADA to Erin and see what she says.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 12:07:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29870
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 12:07:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB231@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 18:08:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13589924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 18:13:46 -0400
Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LMDkr28859 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:13:46 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.10.221eadd0 (4446) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          18:13:36 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <10.221eadd0.2a6c8c10@aol.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:13:36 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/21/2002 1:57:21 PM Central Daylight Time,
Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM writes:

<<
Then, I told her off. I made it personal,
too. She deserved it. She never again tread on me. And then I got back to
business.
>>

YAY!

Maybe if I tell Erin to lay off my back I will get my numbers up.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 12:10:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29912
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 12:10:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0014CA44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 18:17:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13589725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 18:17:15 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LM7Fr28357 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:07:15 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6LM7FUh003589 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:07:15 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211804200.11128-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:07:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I need a dummies book
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3B2EB4.10503@swbell.net>

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:

>>>       I think it needs a chapter on drug interactions with
>>>marijuana... and the "new dealer."  I mean, how does one
>>>score a dime bag after your children have taken away your
>>>license?  I predict that certain bingo games will gain a
>>>reputation as THE ones to go to.
>>>
>>
>> Don't cab drivers deliver?
>
>        I have no idea. This is why such a chapter is necessary...
>how do baby boomers maintain their rec. drug use into their
>retirement years?  Isn't it more expensive via cab?
>Wouldn't that require altering one's investment strategy?

Here's one place where I will need help. I can't handle current rec drugs
topics. I was guessing, based on what cabbies used to do re alcohol in dry
or otherwise restricted areas. It was even possible to have moonshine
delivered.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 12:13:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29924
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 12:13:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB268@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 18:13:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13589767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 18:19:22 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LM9Mr28481 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:09:22 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6LM9MUh003855 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:09:22 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211807310.11128-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:09:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <128.14b164c8.2a6c8a55@aol.com>

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>Hmmm. There may be a plan here ...
>
>
>I hope so; she's the reason so many people have left.

Okay, step one: identify the primary goal. I think you just did. Get rid
of her. Of course an ADA lawsuit might produce some side benefits for you
and possibly others. So what are the secondary goals?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 12:16:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29988
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 12:16:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB27A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 18:17:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13590197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 18:23:18 -0400
Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LMNHr29641 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:23:17 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.135.119ff14e (4446) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul
          2002 18:23:07 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <135.119ff14e.2a6c8e4b@aol.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:23:07 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Venting
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/21/2002 12:09:18 PM Central Daylight Time,
Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM writes:

<<
I've been bitching to my CASA supervisor that the kids are locked out of
their home from 8am to 6pm M-F and til 9pm on Saturdays.
>>

What happens if they get sick or injured?  There should be someone they
can go to.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 12:27:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00319
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 12:27:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB2B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 18:28:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13590407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 18:33:58 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LMXwr30307 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:33:58 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-49.panax.com
          [65.114.190.49]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6LMXvj26160 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          18:33:57 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020721183220.00a090c0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:33:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Was it you, Adam?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Was it you who was interested in the John Galt plaque?   I finally got the
catalog again.  They also have a tee shirt and sweatshirt.  Here's the url
for the plaque.  Obviously, the name of the company is art and artifact.

http://www.artandartifact.com/cgi-bin/hazel.cgi?randomizer=817416936&client=66599138&action=detail&item=PH0832

    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:39:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01502
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 13:38:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB4FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 19:39:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13592493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 19:45:18 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LNjHr03516 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:45:18 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020721234512.TEBJ26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:45:12 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGMEPMGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:47:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: My day with *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020721063357.0E31E7F25@yellow.rahul.net>

> or 4, and then he made me breakfast: amazing French toast. Vanilla and
> cinammon, with Karsten-made raspberry jam.

He stole my recipe! Shimata.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com
still, it's not the same without real maple syrup

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:52:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01714
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 13:52:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB5B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 19:53:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13592732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 19:59:05 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6LNn5r04056 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:49:05 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6LNn4Uh021608 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:49:04 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211943320.5915-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:49:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Pilates in Maryville
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

It turns out that there are 2 Pilates instructors in Maryville. My choir
member friend actually works with the other woman - she thinks she is
better than her daughter.

I have threatened to move to Maryville many times. I should look into
it. It's only about a 30-minute drive, except at peak traffic
times. Many of my hunt buddies live there.

The first time I went there was in 1976, to give a bicentennial language
talk to a women's club. I felt that I had walked into a Thornton Wilder
script. I even remember the somewhat musty, fundamentalist smell of the
protestant church where the club met.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:56:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01758
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 13:56:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB5C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 19:57:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13592991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 20:03:17 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M03Hr04938 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 20:03:17 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020722000311.THWK24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:03:11 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEPNGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 20:05:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Was it you, Adam?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020721183220.00a090c0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

> Was it you who was interested in the John Galt plaque?

Yes, I was interested in it for Melanie's sake. Thanks, Bonnie.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:03:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01869
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 14:03:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB618@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 20:04:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13592965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 20:10:13 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M00Dr04774 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 20:00:13 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB029626F for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:00:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6M00CD25867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:00:12
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211435170.8938-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D3B2EB4.10503@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020721190012.A25702@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:00:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: I need a dummies book
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3B2EB4.10503@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Sun,
              Jul 21, 2002 at 04:59:16PM -0500

I didn't catch the whole thread, but if Rita is writing a dummies book
about geriatric sex with a humorous twist, I will definitely buy it!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:01:34 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02270
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 15:01:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13796
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:54:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB764@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 20:51:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13594431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 20:56:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M0uvr09280 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 20:56:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E8C0F7F51; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 17:56:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722005656.E8C0F7F51@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:56:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Berghoff?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Okay, *er* and I were having a conversation today about creamed
spinach. The creamed spinach of his youth sounds *very* like the
Berghoff creamed spinach. I can't seem to find a recipe online. Any
ideas? I did see a note that said the 1950's vintage Joy of Cooking
recipe is much better than the new one. Any help on that?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:01:35 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02273
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 15:01:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13736
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:41:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB6F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 20:38:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13594034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 20:44:04 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe20.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.124]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M0i4r08165 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 20:44:04 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          21 Jul 2002 17:42:27 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2002 00:42:27.0226 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A719D7A0:01C23118]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <OE207bknxD2yDnSI4nH0000a8e0@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:40:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      spaghetti sauce
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Back in the early 90's there was a restaurant in McAllen which made the =
best spaghetti sauce I ever ate. Then in 1995 they went out of business, =
and I have tired to duplicate this sauce ever since. Sometimes a =
restaurant will approximate it, and I will patronize that place until =
the memory of the original sauce comes back, and then I leave, =
disappointed again.

Well, tonight I was in a hurry to get dinner fixed, and I had a half a =
can of tomato sauce left over from lunch. So I minced some garlic and =
fried it in olive oil, threw in some dried basil leaves, three frozen =
meatballs and the half can of tomato sauce. Mirabile dictu, eureka, etc. =
This was the sauce. As soon as I tasted it, I had the strongest sense =
memory of sitting across the table from my mother at the restaurant in =
McAllen. I said to Graham that it tasted like coming home.=20

All these years, fooling around with chicken broth because I was so sure =
that there was a chicken broth base. Clyde may remember mail from me a =
few years back asking if there was any spaghetti sauce made with chicken =
broth. And tonight I had the same impression--that there was chicken =
broth in the sauce. No broth. Just tomato sauce, garlic, and basil.

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:01:35 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02276
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 15:01:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13722
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:39:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB6E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 20:36:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13593991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 20:42:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M0gIr08059 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 20:42:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CCB297CFB; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 17:38:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722003800.CCB297CFB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:38:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My day with *er*
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGMEPMGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 21, 2002  7:47:59 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> > or 4, and then he made me breakfast: amazing French toast. Vanilla and
> > cinammon, with Karsten-made raspberry jam.
>
> He stole my recipe! Shimata.
>
> --Adam
> adamh1@attbi.com
> still, it's not the same without real maple syrup

That's what he said.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:01:36 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02279
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 15:01:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13702
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:36:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB6CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 20:32:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13593905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 20:38:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M0cbr07767 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 20:38:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4E1717F4D; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 17:36:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722003646.4E1717F4D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:36:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates instructor
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211537320.9969-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 21, 2002  3:38:42 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >What difference does it make to you what kind of session you have? If
> >you specifically asked for a private mat session, I can see why they
>
> For some reason, I thought that you had specifically recommended mat work
> rather than machines.

Yes, I did. some people (like perhaps the original studio you went
to?) are very machine-focused, and I feel this is an error.

> Also, I don't have the machines at home, so cannot replicate machine work
> at home.

Of course not. But if you explain to your trainer what your goal is
(to work independently at home), then they can train you
appropriately, and explicitly make the connection between machine work
and work you dan do on your own.

Btw, I looked at Pilates For Dummies today, and I thought it was good
in its own way.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:40:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02499
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 15:40:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0014D274@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 21:46:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13595236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 21:46:43 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M1agr12013 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:36:43 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6M1agUh007048 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:36:42 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207212134210.12599-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:36:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates instructor
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020722003646.4E1717F4D@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>Of course not. But if you explain to your trainer what your goal is
>(to work independently at home), then they can train you
>appropriately, and explicitly make the connection between machine work
>and work you dan do on your own.

I think I can do that with the Maryville trainers.

>Btw, I looked at Pilates For Dummies today, and I thought it was good
>in its own way.

Interesting .. because I have decided it will be useful also. I'll
probably go back to Borders - I have another 20% off coupon.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:50:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02624
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 15:50:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB8D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 21:50:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13595699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 21:56:27 -0400
Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6M1uQr13376 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          21:56:27 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-204-241.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.204.241]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6M1uQa174808 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul
          2002 21:56:26 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEABFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:55:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Was it you, Adam?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020721183220.00a090c0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

Adam's into John Galt, too?

Sandra

>
>
> Was it you who was interested in the John Galt plaque?   I finally got the
> catalog again.  They also have a tee shirt and sweatshirt.  Here's the url
> for the plaque.  Obviously, the name of the company is art and artifact.
>
> http://www.artandartifact.com/cgi-bin/hazel.cgi?randomizer=8174169
36&client=66599138&action=detail&item=PH0832

    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:09:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02866
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 16:09:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB97C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 22:10:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13596400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 22:16:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M2GCr15233 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:16:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 20D887D31; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 19:16:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722021612.20D887D31@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:16:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates instructor
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207212134210.12599-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 21, 2002  9:36:41 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >Of course not. But if you explain to your trainer what your goal is
> >(to work independently at home), then they can train you
> >appropriately, and explicitly make the connection between machine work
> >and work you dan do on your own.
>
> I think I can do that with the Maryville trainers.

Yes, it sounds like it.

> >Btw, I looked at Pilates For Dummies today, and I thought it was good
> >in its own way.
>
> Interesting .. because I have decided it will be useful also. I'll
> probably go back to Borders - I have another 20% off coupon.

I don't really like the way they talk about Pilates or explain the
matwork, but they do cover rehab topics and so on that I think are
useful. I was suprised that they included the foam roller in there,
because that's a Feldenkrais thing, not a Pilates thing.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:10:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02902
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 16:10:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0014D3DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 22:17:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13596417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 22:17:01 -0400
Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net (granger.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.148]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6M2H1r15305 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          22:17:01 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0186.dialsprint.net ([63.190.0.186]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17WSjo-0006Pc-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun,
          21 Jul 2002 22:15:52 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <57.eb19dc2.2a6c8ba5@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3B6AD6.D3F9312A@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:16:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Evelyn Duncan wrote:
>
> In a message dated 07/21/2002 3:18:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
> rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes:
>
> <<
> I think Evelyn could probably sue them under the ADA.
>
> >>
>
> I talked to Kathie; she said that OSHA was the organization
> to go to; that the ADA wouldn't hurt them financially.  But I
> will mention the ADA to Erin and see what she says.

My little organization moves when the ADA flag is raised... MCC does not
want an ADA-based lawsuit.  They avoid them by meeting compliance
standards ASAP.   Check out discrimination angles. when you talk to Erin
et al.

--
Sylvia Edwards
Litopia    http://www.edwardsly.com
Sylvie's Place    http://www.geocities.com/s.words/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:26:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03063
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 16:26:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDB9E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 22:27:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13596722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 22:32:51 -0400
Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.106]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M2Wpr16302 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:32:51 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.172.ba28927 (4316) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          22:32:30 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <172.ba28927.2a6cc8be@aol.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:32:30 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/21/2002 9:17:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM writes:

<<
Check out discrimination angles. when you talk to Erin
et al.

>>

What do I say to her?  That Sears is in violation of the ADA
because the handrail doesn't go all the way to the top; that
she is in violation because of the insults she slung at me?
Right now all I want to do to her is slug her.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:28:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03072
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 16:28:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0014D499@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 22:35:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13596593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 22:35:08 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M2P8r15856 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:25:08 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6M2P7Uh017092 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:25:07 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207212222290.13019-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:25:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates instructor
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020722021612.20D887D31@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>useful. I was suprised that they included the foam roller in there,
>because that's a Feldenkrais thing, not a Pilates thing.

Something else that interests me, but apart from a visiting person who
taught a single class here, I have never found a qualified instructor.

Probably I should just do what I wnated to in the early 60s - in fact, in
1960 - and just move to California. My income will not support me there,
of course - I'll have to have a new <decripit> career.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:43:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03118
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 16:43:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDBA41@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 22:44:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13597044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 22:50:05 -0400
Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6M2o5r17427 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002
          22:50:05 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0186.dialsprint.net ([63.190.0.186]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17WTGt-0002d5-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun,
          21 Jul 2002 22:50:04 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <172.ba28927.2a6cc8be@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3B72DA.2013F48F@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:50:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> What do I say to her?  That Sears is in violation of the ADA
Start with:

HOW TO FILE FREE ADA COMPLAINTS

TITLE I---Employment

To file a complaint against an employer or a prospective employer,
contact your nearest EEOC office within 180 days of the alleged
discrimination. Look in the
telephone book under "U.S. Government" or call the EEOC at
1-800-669-4000 (voice) or 1-800-3302 (TDD). You must be the person who
was allegedly
discriminated against to file a Title I complaint. If you wish to file a
lawsuit in federal court, you must first receive a "right to sue" letter
from the EEOC, which may be
requested 180 days after the complaint is filed, and then file suit
within 90 days after receiving the "right to sue" letter. Alternative
dispute resolution methods do not
supplant the other remedies provided by the ADA. <http://www.shhhca.org/shhhada.htm>

Check out the ADA Compliance Guide at http://www.thompson.com/libraries/leave/able/
ans
Workplace Accommodations at http://www.thompson.com/libraries/leave/dates/index.html
--
Sylvia Edwards
Litopia    http://www.edwardsly.com
Sylvie's Place    http://www.geocities.com/s.words/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:52:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03131
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 16:52:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDBB95@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Jul 2002 22:53:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13597964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 22:58:50 -0400
Received: from Apios (H251.C220.tor.velocet.net [216.138.220.251]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M2wnr18216 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:58:49 -0400
Received: from Spooler by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO001353; 21 Jul 02
          22:59:48 -0400
Received: from spooler by apios.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 21 Jul 02 22:59:20 -0400
Received: from turvey (127.0.0.1) by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MG001352; 21
          Jul 02 22:59:18 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D35A8A1.2491.CF75874E@localhost> from Tony Harminc at "Jul 17,
            2002  5:25:53 pm"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d)
Message-ID:  <E73476C30C16@apios.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:59:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Electric stoves?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020721071659.1645D845B@yellow.rahul.net>

On 21 Jul 02, at 0:16, Karen Kay wrote:

> Tony Harminc said:
> > Either a fuse has gone in the stove, or a wire or connection has
> > gone. The latter may have provoked the former. The fuses are probably
> > under a flip-up lid along the top, back edge of the unit, but there
> > are other places they could be. (I'm assuming this is not a builtin
> > unit, but rather the typical sort of freestanding thing that usually
> > sits between two stretches of countertop.)
>
> What other places?

Under the drawer at the bottom (the "plate warming drawer")?
It probably comes out by pulling it til it stops, then lifting
the front and pulling a bit more. Like many office desk
drawers. Though if it was built in the last 20 years or so the
fuses are almost certainly easily accessible.

> I asked *er* to find the fuses, and he couldn't. He did find that
> there's a panel on the upper back that you need a wrench to get
> off--that's where all the wiring goes to. Would they be in there?

Very unlikely. You're *sure* the top of the back (where the
knobs are, behind the burners) doesn't open?

> Or in the cooktop somewhere?

Down near the burners? Also unlikely. But I haven't met every
stove on the continent.

> He did show me a few other things about my stove that I didn't know,
> and that was fun.

Hey Borkin - are you reading? Next: which snow tires are best
in Texas.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 18:12:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03239
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 18:12:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDC5DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 0:13:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13605724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 00:19:08 -0400
Received: from Apios (H251.C220.tor.velocet.net [216.138.220.251]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M4J7r27258 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:19:07 -0400
Received: from Spooler by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO001356; 22 Jul 02
          00:20:06 -0400
Received: from spooler by apios.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 22 Jul 02 00:19:49 -0400
Received: from turvey (127.0.0.1) by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MG001355; 22
          Jul 02 00:19:46 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d)
Message-ID:  <E77E28491246@apios.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:19:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Lost and Found
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Some of you will remember that in November of 1998 I, along
with 30 or so colleagues, was "downsized" out of Amdahl Corp.
where I had worked for a bit over five years. It was as
friendly a parting as these things can be, and amazingly we
weren't walked out the door immediately in the usual high-tech
style, but had a couple of days in which to wind down our
affairs.  More astonishingly (perhaps because the division I
worked in was always a bit of a skunkworks, both
geographically and culturally removed from Intergalatic HQ)
they offered to make copies of any personal files and mail we
wanted from our PCs. We were simply to copy the stuff we
wanted to a certain directory, and as part of cleaning up our
machines they would copy things onto a CD and mail it out.

I copied my stuff, shook hands, went home, and in due course
the CDs arrived. All those comforting and familiar things were
soon loaded to and integrated with the home system. No stolen
software and the like, but just that sense of happy
familiarity that comes with knowing where day to day things
are, and having a record of one's recent existence in files
and mail.

Ahi caso acerbo, ahi fat'empio e crudele!

I had copied the wrong Pegasus mail directory, and three years
of personal mail and the address book was gone. My dealings
with WORDS-Lers were among the least affected; certainly no
one's address was irrecoverable. But there were various people
from other contexts whose words I valued or whose address I
had no record of who faded from my life. Some of them I owed
replies to, some I had meant to get back in touch with, and
some I just couldn't remember at all beyond the sure knowledge
that they had existed. This has been a little gap in my life;
not quite a death in the family, but a small gnawing hole
combining nostalgia with self blame (how could this self-
proclaimed computer expert have let this happen?). I've slowly
come to live with it, and of course I've been religious about
offsite backups at home and work ever since.

This week I stumbled across most of the missing stuff. It was
in an obscure directory where I had copied some things while
rearranging the disks a few weeks before being fired. It's not
everything, but it is almost all of it. It's a very odd
feeling, not unlike discovering old letters one wrote home in
one's teen years from that trip to Europe y'all have taken.
There are no huge embarassments, but the one WORDS-Ly thing I
am very glad of being reminded of is that I owe Jim Farrell
some tax money for my shares in the Goofy fund. I have no idea
how much it is (probably $20 or something), but if someone has
his current email address I would appreciate having it. I'll
send him a copy of this, and then we'll come to some suitable
face-saving arrangement.

Thanks for listening; I needed to unload this.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 18:42:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03289
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 18:42:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDC681@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 0:42:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13606282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 00:48:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M4mbr29468 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:48:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 70E4A7D40; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 21:46:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722044645.70E4A7D40@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:46:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates instructor
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207212222290.13019-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 21, 2002 10:25: 7 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >useful. I was suprised that they included the foam roller in there,
> >because that's a Feldenkrais thing, not a Pilates thing.
>
> Something else that interests me, but apart from a visiting person who
> taught a single class here, I have never found a qualified instructor.

Feldenkrais or foam roller? I've taken two foam roller classes from
two different PT/Pilates trainers. The Pilates Center of Austin offers
a body rolling class, which is mostly with balls. (I do those, too.)

> Probably I should just do what I wnated to in the early 60s - in fact, in
> 1960 - and just move to California. My income will not support me there,
> of course - I'll have to have a new <decripit> career.

Oh, yoohoo, Behtany!!! I don't live in California. I think Austin is
even better for this stuff, because it's easier to get to.

But I'm not decrepit. Yet.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 18:48:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03314
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 18:48:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014DCEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 0:55:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13606362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 00:55:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M4t8r29827 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:55:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 275B07D40; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 21:55:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722045508.275B07D40@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:55:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Electric stoves?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <E73476C30C16@apios.com> from Tony Harminc at "Jul 21,
              2002 10:59:18 pm"

Tony Harminc said:
[about finding the fuses]
> Under the drawer at the bottom (the "plate warming drawer")?
> It probably comes out by pulling it til it stops, then lifting
> the front and pulling a bit more. Like many office desk
> drawers. Though if it was built in the last 20 years or so the
> fuses are almost certainly easily accessible.

Hmmm... I pulled that out all the way by accident some time last
week. But I didn't look underneath. You don't lift up, there's no
bumper or anything, it just pulls straight out.

> > I asked *er* to find the fuses, and he couldn't. He did find that
> > there's a panel on the upper back that you need a wrench to get
> > off--that's where all the wiring goes to. Would they be in there?
>
> Very unlikely. You're *sure* the top of the back (where the
> knobs are, behind the burners) doesn't open?

Yes. *er* and I both tried, and he's smarter than I am.

> > Or in the cooktop somewhere?
>
> Down near the burners? Also unlikely. But I haven't met every
> stove on the continent.

Actually, we looked around there and didn't find anything.

> > He did show me a few other things about my stove that I didn't know,
> > and that was fun.
>
> Hey Borkin - are you reading? Next: which snow tires are best
> in Texas.

He showed me, um, a different level of the top of the stove. Underneath
the burners. He lifted it up and I looked at it and said "My god,  I
didn't know it opened *there*!" And then I cleaned it--a few dead
bugs, lots of dirt. Now I know.

And he showed me a trick about the door that I probably can't do
justice to.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 19:13:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03331
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 19:12:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDC7DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 1:13:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13607178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 01:19:10 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M59Ar31450 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 01:09:10 -0400
Received: from giasmd01.vsnl.net.in (giasmd01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.1]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M599p22122 for
          <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 01:09:09 -0400
Received: from voice_server (unknown [203.199.229.119]) by giasmd01.vsnl.net.in
          (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C2DD4B16; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:47:01 +0530
          (IST)
X-Mailer: AMLC 2.7
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <20020722051701.3C2DD4B16@giasmd01.vsnl.net.in>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:47:01 +0530
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Skill_Tests@VSNL.NET
Subject:      ADV: How good are your IT skills?
Comments: To: Skill_Tests@giasmd01.vsnl.net.in
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The Skillometer Skills Challenge:
Take a Free IT Skills Test!   Win $100!
=20
Get the recognition you deserve.  As an accomplished IT professional, we =
invite you to take the Skillometer Skills Challenge. Skillometer =
provides web-based skills testing for current and leading-edge =
Information Technologies.  Our tests measure the proficiency of the IT =
professional in a respective technology.  If you're good enough, we'll =
feature you on our website.  Choose your free Beta test, beat the high =
score, and we'll put your name and picture on our homepage. =20
=20
Win $100!  Go to www.skillometer.com/indexbeta.asp.  Fill out the form, =
choose the technologies in which you want to be tested, and you'll =
immediately receive an email with a hyperlink to your test(s).  If you =
take a test and qualify as a Top Scorer, you will be automatically =
entered into our $100 drawing for that test. The drawing for each test =
will be held after the test is released from Beta.
=20
Think you're good?  Show everyone.  Take the Skillometer Skills =
Challenge!

 =20
-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------

We respect your time. If you would like to be removed from our mailing =
list, click on mailto:Skill_Tests@vsnl.net?subject=3DREMOVE and add the =
email address(es) to remove in your subject line.
=20
This message is designed to comply with all U.S. state laws and pending =
federal legislation regarding electronic mail marketing. You can avoid =
seeing compliant messages by setting your mail reader to filter messages =
with "ADV:" at the beginning of the Subject line. Submit questions or =
comments regarding these matters by clicking on =
mailto:Skill_Tests@vsnl.net?subject=3DCOMPLIANCE.

Skillometer, LLC
Manor Oak One, Suite 170
1910 Cochran Road
Pittsburgh, PA  15220
=20
(101701)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 19:42:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03689
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 19:42:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDC86D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 1:43:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13607859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 01:48:46 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M5mkr01670 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 01:48:46 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020722054838.FEYM24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 05:48:38 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020721214405.023709a0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:44:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Berghoff?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020722005656.E8C0F7F51@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen Kay writes,

>Okay, *er* and I were having a conversation today about creamed
>spinach. The creamed spinach of his youth sounds *very* like the
>Berghoff creamed spinach. I can't seem to find a recipe online. Any
>ideas?

Nutmeg.  It's said to be the secret ingredient.

Berghoff's posts a picture <http://www.berghoff.com/spinach.jpg>, and a few
recipes for other things, but no creamed spinach recipe.

Here's an ingredient list, at least:
<http://www.marketday.com/Prod_Ingrd.asp?ItemID=4699>.  (Market Day, based
in the Chicago area and operating in 20 metro areas in 16 states, does
school fundraising food sales.)

Here are some recipes that have at least a little in common with the
ingredient list -- some easier than others, but none spot on:

<http://www.sunspot.net/entertainment/dining/bal-taste-recipes-0501.story>
<http://www.kare11.com/recipes/recipe-detail.asp?RECIPE_ID=371>
<http://www.insideneworleans.com/restaurants/food/recipes/creamedspinach.html>
<http://www.rebeccasgarden.com/recipes/items/30spin00.html>
<http://www.foodtv.com/recipes/re-c1/0,6255,17133,00.html>

Separately, I think Seabrook Farms' Creamed Spinach
<http://www.seabrookfarms.com/html/products/sbfcs.html> is pretty good,
although as noted before, I like to add Mishima's Aji Nori Furikake to
it.  For the creamed spinach, I think it's the sesame seeds that adds the
right touch more than the nori; using toasted sesame seeds might be good
enough.

For more than you wanted to know about C.F. Seabrook, the Spinach King (and
a fair bit about the Japanese-American ex-internees who moved to Seabrook,
the town) see grandson John's article for The New Yorker
<http://www.levity.com/seabrook/spinach.html>.

I think of 'Alan every time I grab the shaker of Mishima furikake, because
Mishima is based in Hiroshima; now, knowing more about the history of
Seabrook, I'll be thinking of the Japanese-American internment camps when
I'm eating spinach, too.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 19:52:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03993
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 19:52:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDC8DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 1:53:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13608176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 01:59:03 -0400
Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net
          [204.127.131.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6M5x3r02259 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          01:59:03 -0400
Received: from Single_Malt.worldnet.att.net ([12.86.0.140]) by
          mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020722055857.GMFO17970.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@Single_Malt.worldnet.att.net> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 05:58:57 +0000
X-Sender: elaine.personal.lists@worldnet.att.net@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20020719215847.02c0d8b8@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.2.20020721235734.02e70e38@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:58:43 -0600
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Elaine M Brennan <elaine.personal.lists@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lobsterfest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEOOGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

At 08:12 PM 7/20/2002 -0400, Adam wrote:
> > >1992. GWTP. Gosh, who's left who isn't on nomail that was there? Natalie,
> > >Rashmi, Anne, Karen, Rita, Terry, myself, Alec... who am I turning into
> > >Chopped Liver?
> >
> > I think that would be me ....
> >
> > --Elaine
>
>Ah! I thought you were set to nomail - I was just listing Clambakers who had
>recently posted.

hasn't been much to comment on of late, to my eyes (of course, the fact
that I'm usually a couple of days behind in reading means that many topics
have spun themselves out before I've even seen them)...

--Elaine



Elaine M. Brennan, Principal            elaine.brennan@att.net
eb xml consulting
4900 South Ulster Street #13-101                303/224-0442
Denver, CO 80237                                720/635-8409 (mobile)
                                                 703/995-0741 (fax)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:51:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05056
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 20:51:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDCAE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 2:51:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13610246 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 02:57:21 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M6vKr07601 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 02:57:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1E2478654; Sun, 21
          Jul 2002 23:57:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722065720.1E2478654@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:57:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Berghoff?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020721214405.023709a0@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Jul 21, 2002 10:44:57 pm"

Peter Kaminski said:
[about creamed spinach]
> Nutmeg.  It's said to be the secret ingredient.

I saw that. I'll have to try it. I keep thinking maybe chicken stock.

> Berghoff's posts a picture <http://www.berghoff.com/spinach.jpg>, and a few
> recipes for other things, but no creamed spinach recipe.

Yup. Saw it.

> Here are some recipes that have at least a little in common with the
> ingredient list -- some easier than others, but none spot on:
>
> <http://www.sunspot.net/entertainment/dining/bal-taste-recipes-0501.story>
> <http://www.kare11.com/recipes/recipe-detail.asp?RECIPE_ID=371>
> <http://www.insideneworleans.com/restaurants/food/recipes/creamedspinach.html>
> <http://www.rebeccasgarden.com/recipes/items/30spin00.html>
> <http://www.foodtv.com/recipes/re-c1/0,6255,17133,00.html>

I'll check these out, but I think I've seen most of them. What were
your search terms? (I'm always going to ask you this, Pete, because I
wonder why we get different results.)

> Separately, I think Seabrook Farms' Creamed Spinach
> <http://www.seabrookfarms.com/html/products/sbfcs.html> is pretty good,
> although as noted before, I like to add Mishima's Aji Nori Furikake to
> it.  For the creamed spinach, I think it's the sesame seeds that adds the
> right touch more than the nori; using toasted sesame seeds might be good
> enough.

'kay.

I think we'll have to have a Creamed Spinach Night or something like that.

Thanks very much.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:52:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05129
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 21:52:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDCBCF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 3:53:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13611018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 03:59:05 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M7x5r11169 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 03:59:05 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020722075859.IAUO24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:58:59 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020721214405.023709a0@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722003813.02268500@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:54:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Berghoff?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020722065720.1E2478654@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen Kay writes,

>I'll check these out, but I think I've seen most of them. What were
>your search terms?

<berghoff creamed-spinach> and then clicking into MarketDay a couple links
deep got the ingredients.

Then the recipes all came from combinations of "spinach" and some of the
distinctive-looking Berghoff ingredients: nutmeg (even though it's not
specifically given in the ingredient list), half-and-half, Maggi,
Worchestershire.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:01:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA05145
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 22:01:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014E38B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 4:07:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13611104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 04:07:37 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M87br11879 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 04:07:37 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT53W>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:07:36 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT534; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:07:05 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020718102539.02bb7dd0@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717211610.00b7f0d0@mail.panax.com>
            <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEJIGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020716100016.00bf3b80@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020722095944.03168030@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:06:55 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Grandchildren, gif and cod
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718090543.00b4deb8@mail.panax.com>

Yes, Emil and Christoffer are beautiful.

Torbjørn made this with a throw-away-camera at the hospital:

http://home.no.net/espenore/2002/sykehus.jpg

I am not sure but I believe that the one on the left is Emila and
Christoffer on the right.

Here is Christoffer alone:

http://home.no.net/espenore/2002/christof.jpg

and here is Emil:

http://home.no.net/espenore/2002/emil.jpg

and here the proud father (with Emil) and the g-g-mother (with Christoffer)
(the g-g-m's head is cut off in the photo).

http://home.no.net/espenore/2002/togm.jpg

Apart from all this family enjoyment we also bought a live cod, about 3.5
kgs - they have tanks with live fish still in Bergen - and had a cod-fest
on Saturday. We came close to fighting over the head and the liver but
friendship prevailed.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:31:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA05166
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 22:31:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014E442@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 4:37:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13611506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 04:37:38 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M8bbr13577 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 04:37:38 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT5QS>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:37:37 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT5QR; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:37:34 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <4.2.2.20020718063844.00ac8ad0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020722103656.00b6f870@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:37:27 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Rashmi
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207180742040.49890-100000@idiom.com>

07:45 18.07.2002 -0700 skrev Sharon Ziperovich:
>Weekdays are possible and weekends as well.  This next week I'm going to
>be at Tassajara (my favorite place on earth, so far).  What about week
>after next?

Are you staying at Tassajara for a sesshin?

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:48:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA05193
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 22:48:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDCCA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 4:48:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13611686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 04:54:06 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M8s6r14434 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 04:54:06 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT5R4>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:54:05 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT5RT; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:54:00 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020722105313.031739d8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:53:54 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: mushroom pics
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020718190045.00b5d060@mail.panax.com>

19:02 18.07.2002 -0400 skrev clyde w. voigtlander:
>Whoops!  Mea culpa.
>
>It should be com/album.

I found them - tmp27 is a russula, but possibly (probably?) not edible.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:58:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA05201
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 22:58:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0014E4DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 5:04:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13611766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 05:04:09 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M949r14972 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 05:04:09 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT5SL>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:04:08 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT5SK; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:04:05 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020722110243.00ae4540@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:03:59 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Department of People With Too Much Time On Their Hands
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <020719.084830.EDT.PRIMATE@BROWNVM.brown.edu>

08:46 19.07.2002 -0400 skrev Judith E. Schrier:
>Sent on by my son, Evan...
>love, judith
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>http://www.museumofconceptualart.com/ible-bay.html


One of the participants at a meeting at Berkeley last fall was proofreading
his trranslation of As Yopu Like It into Klingon.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 23:06:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA05227
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 23:06:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDCCD7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 5:06:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13611869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 05:12:05 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M9C5r15507 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 05:12:05 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT5SZ>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:12:04 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT5SY; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:12:00 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020722111032.0311d9b0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:11:54 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: spam slurp2
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020719194712.A31550@yoccoz.multinix.com>

19:47 19.07.2002 +0200 skrev steph:
>take one if it's there.  And I always ride the metro if there is
>one.  I really liked the metro in Vienna.  Plus even though I

Did you see the Virgilienkapelle underground at the Stephanplatz metro station?

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 23:40:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA05254
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 15 Jun 1960 23:40:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDCD61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 5:40:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13612250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 05:46:21 -0400
Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M9kLr17421 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 05:46:21 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.193.a2a6de1 (3866) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          05:46:14 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <193.a2a6de1.2a6d2e66@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 05:46:14 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/21/2002 9:50:16 PM Central Daylight Time,
s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM writes:

<<
If you wish to file a
lawsuit in federal court, you must first receive a "right to sue" letter
from the EEOC, which may be
requested 180 days after the complaint is filed
>>

Do I have to wait 180 days, or is this within 180 days.

And what do I say to her today when she asks what I will do to
improve my MA average?

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 00:54:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA05327
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 00:54:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDCF9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 6:54:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13573939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 07:00:37 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6MB0ar01371 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:00:37 -0400
Received: from hppav (216.249.158.65) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex 6.5.007)
          id 3D0A970400157325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          05:56:55 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <002c01c2316f$3d00f900$419ef9d8@hppav>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 06:02:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Grandchildren, gif and cod
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen:

>Yes, Emil and Christoffer are beautiful.

Oh, yes! Many, many congratulations!

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 01:13:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05363
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 01:13:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDD068@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 7:13:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13574197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 07:19:41 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MB9er04671 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:09:40 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6MB9eUh001339 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:09:40 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207220707360.9854-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:09:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pilates instructor
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020722044645.70E4A7D40@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>Feldenkrais or foam roller? I've taken two foam roller classes from
>two different PT/Pilates trainers. The Pilates Center of Austin offers
>a body rolling class, which is mostly with balls. (I do those, too.)

F.

>> Probably I should just do what I wnated to in the early 60s - in fact, in
>> 1960 - and just move to California. My income will not support me there,
>> of course - I'll have to have a new <decripit> career.
>
>Oh, yoohoo, Behtany!!! I don't live in California. I think Austin is
>even better for this stuff, because it's easier to get to.

But the instructor you like so much is near Stanford!

>But I'm not decrepit. Yet.

Rita <knows> I am decripit. Already!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 01:14:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05368
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 01:14:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014E948@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 7:20:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13574230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 07:20:53 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MBArr04805 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:10:53 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6MBAqUh001499 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:10:52 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207220710200.9854-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:10:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <193.a2a6de1.2a6d2e66@aol.com>

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>And what do I say to her today when she asks what I will do to
>improve my MA average?

You are working on an MA degree at Sears?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 01:16:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05377
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 01:16:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDD086@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 7:16:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13574771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 07:22:36 -0400
Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MBMar06509 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:22:36 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.18d.b16ceeb (4222) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          07:22:26 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <18d.b16ceeb.2a6d44f2@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:22:26 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/22/2002 6:21:07 AM Central Daylight Time,
dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes:

<<
You are working on an MA degree at Sears?


>>

Maintenance Agreements.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 01:18:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05381
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 01:18:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDD098@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 7:18:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13574388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 07:24:06 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MBE6r05257 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:14:06 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6MBE6Uh001982 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:14:06 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207220710580.9854-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:14:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <172.ba28927.2a6cc8be@aol.com>

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>What do I say to her?  That Sears is in violation of the ADA
>because the handrail doesn't go all the way to the top; that
>she is in violation because of the insults she slung at me?
>Right now all I want to do to her is slug her.

Don't say anything to her. Let the lawsuit be a <happy> surprise. She is
not necessarily in violation because of the handrail not going to the top
(I have not had time to look at the relevant law) and not because she
insulted you - but probably because she has ordered you to walk to the top
knowing that there is not a handrail. As always, one filing a lawsuit
needs legal counsel.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 01:32:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05398
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 01:32:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDD0E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 7:32:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13575032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 07:38:10 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MBcAr07757 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:38:10 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-163.panax.com
          [63.163.41.163]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6MBcAn11877 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          07:38:10 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722073653.009fb5e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:38:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <193.a2a6de1.2a6d2e66@aol.com>

>And what do I say to her today when she asks what I will do to
>improve my MA average?        --Evelyn Duncan

"I will harass every customer with a smile and hope that all the extra
hours I work will result in more MAs."


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 01:44:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05413
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 01:44:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDD162@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 7:45:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13575503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 07:50:46 -0400
Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MBokr09380 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:50:46 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.55.2a88213b (18555) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul
          2002 07:50:41 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <55.2a88213b.2a6d4b91@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:50:41 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/22/2002 6:38:28 AM Central Daylight Time,
bonniev@PANAX.COM writes:

<<
"I will harass every customer with a smile and hope that all the extra
hours I work will result in more MAs."



>>

That's good, and I will add that I will act more like her.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 02:29:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA05494
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 02:29:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDD3F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 8:29:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13577083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 08:35:42 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MCZgr14352 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:35:42 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws82-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.82]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6MCZee15383
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:35:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020718102539.02bb7dd0@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717211610.00b7f0d0@mail.panax.com>
            <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEJIGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020716100016.00bf3b80@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020722095944.03168030@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3BFC17.7D587EFF@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:35:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Grandchildren, gif and cod
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Great pictures!  The twins look just like you.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 02:32:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA05507
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 02:32:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014ED5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 8:38:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13577151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 08:38:11 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MCcBr14590 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:38:11 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT6AV>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:38:10 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT6A4; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:38:05 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020718102539.02bb7dd0@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717211610.00b7f0d0@mail.panax.com>
            <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEJIGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020716100016.00bf3b80@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020722095944.03168030@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020722143731.03171c08@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:37:59 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Grandchildren, gif and cod
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3BFC17.7D587EFF@maynor.net>

07:35 22.07.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor:
>Great pictures!  The twins look just like you.

:-) That's what my mother said as well.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 03:08:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05552
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 03:08:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDD7B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 9:08:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13579283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 09:14:31 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe44.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.16]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MDEVr19620 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:14:31 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          20 Jul 2002 20:52:32 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.69]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2002 03:52:32.0494 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[0AC1E0E0:01C2306A]
Message-ID:  <OE441eXlMOHOpykaWpz000033d6@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 22:54:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Murray and Starkville
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I was talking to a former HS classmate at my great-uncle's burial (the
classmate's family now owns the property where the old cemetery is located;
the last burial there was in 1934). He is a veterinarian who went to vet
school in Starkville and did his undergrad in Murray. He was telling me that
the two towns are quite similar. (Of course the Startkville-based MSU is a
larger school that the Murray-based school.)

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 03:09:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05559
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 03:09:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDD7BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 9:09:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13579307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 09:15:04 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f125.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.125]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MDF4r19731 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:15:04 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          19 Jul 2002 14:41:12 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 19
          Jul 2002 21:41:12 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2002 21:41:12.0834 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[00A1CE20:01C22F6D]
Message-ID:  <F125NjVuMhvqgStMVhE00000857@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:41:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>quickly by reservation.  It has gorgeous wooded campsites, near the ocean.

Heck with campsites. We all want to sleep on the floor at your house.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 03:10:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05683
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 03:10:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDD7DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 9:10:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13579395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 09:16:10 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe14.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.118]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MDGAr19905 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:16:10 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          21 Jul 2002 08:06:02 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.67]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2002 15:06:02.0974 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[2147C7E0:01C230C8]
Message-ID:  <OE14dLhFyCZRSfEuCpH00009e8d@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:07:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      My Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I'm in the midst (exactly) of affixing 15 framed lithographs of Our Solar
System that the kind librarian gave to me (sans cadres) at the main campus
library (which has a NASA depository of all kinds of cool stuff for grabs).
Master Carl shall be surprised when he returns this afternoon from Grandma's
house.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 03:11:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05954
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 03:11:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014F0CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 9:17:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13579485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 09:17:04 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f204.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.204]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MDH4r20171 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:17:04 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          20 Jul 2002 08:30:35 -0700
Received: from 207.162.163.19 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20
          Jul 2002 15:30:35 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [207.162.163.19]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2002 15:30:35.0841 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[64C3B310:01C23002]
Message-ID:  <F204Y30kkZIhTrBoe2U00000048@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:30:35 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Murray and Starkville
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I was talking to a former HS classmate at my great-uncle's burial (his
family now owns the property where the old cemetery is located; the last
burial there was in 1934). He is a veterinarian who went to vet school in
Starkville and did his undergrad in Murray. He was telling me that the two
towns are quite similar. (Of course the Startkville-based MSU is a larger
school that the Murray-based school.)

AS

_________________________________________________________________
Rejoignez MSN Hotmail, le plus important service de messagerie
http://www.hotmail.com/fr

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 03:14:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06604
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 03:14:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDD850@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 9:14:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13579674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 09:20:29 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f96.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.96]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MDKSr20652 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:20:28 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          19 Jul 2002 05:51:14 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri,
          19 Jul 2002 12:51:14 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2002 12:51:14.0741 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[F77DDE50:01C22F22]
Message-ID:  <F96vzQAm7Y4hHOiPegn0001679c@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:51:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pizza
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
>I think of you as more of a gastronome.  Am I in the ballpark?

Or a gastrologer.

Oh, I get it Gastrodome -- that's what I should start calling my kitchen.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 03:17:30 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06617
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 03:17:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0014F157@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 9:23:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13579786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 09:23:21 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe12.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.116]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MDNLr21070 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:23:21 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          21 Jul 2002 19:40:42 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
References:  <172.ba28927.2a6cc8be@aol.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2002 02:40:42.0684 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[2C52CFC0:01C23129]
Message-ID:  <OE12doTS2rxcddfhV7r00001fb5@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:39:18 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> What do I say to her?  That Sears is in violation of the ADA
> because the handrail doesn't go all the way to the top;

The ADA states that companies must make "reasonable accomodations" to
employees with disabilities. It doesn't say what defines "reasonable." But
generally, if you are required to do something as part of your job, and you
have a disability that prevents you from doing that thing, them Sears must
reasonably accomodate you, either by modifying the work environment to suit
your needs, or if that is not reasonable, by not requiring you to do
something that your disability keeps you from doing. Like the word
"reasonable," the word "disability" is vague in meaning. A suitably
hardassed injury lawyer will probably be happy to supply Sears with his or
her own definitions :-)

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 03:20:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06999
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 03:20:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014F1A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 9:26:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13579917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 09:26:24 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe29.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.86]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MDQOr21586 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:26:24 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          21 Jul 2002 08:33:07 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.67]
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2002 15:33:07.0637 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[E9A7AE50:01C230CB]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <OE29VjUwZcSlVviFluZ000023e5@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:34:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      My Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I'm in the midst (exactly) of affixing 15 framed lithographs of Our =
Solar
System that the kind librarian gave to me (sans cadres) at the main =
campus
library (which has a NASA depository of all kinds of cool stuff for =
grabs).
Master Carl shall be surprised when he returns this afternoon from =
Grandma's
house.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 03:23:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07003
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 03:23:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDD90D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 9:23:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13580245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 09:29:07 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe38.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.95]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MDT7r22511 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:29:07 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          21 Jul 2002 17:53:18 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2002 00:53:18.0810 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[2B79ABA0:01C2311A]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <OE38s3zMT9VpZ7oNkD400003aac@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:51:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Farewell friend
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

With sadness I have to report that Queenie, my favorite animal friend =
and loyal member of the household for 14 years, disappeared one night =
last week and has not returned. She was the best dog that I ever knew, =
the most loving. She helped get me through some very rough times. Last =
February on an ice-cold day, she got confused on one of our walks on the =
canal bank and plunged into the freezing water. I watched to see if she =
could swim back to the bank, but she started to drown instead. I dived =
in and threw her onto the bank. I saved her life that day, and it will =
always bother me that I wasn't able to protect her again last week. She =
was a good dog, the best little dog that I ever knew.

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 03:37:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07032
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 03:37:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDDA54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 9:37:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13581348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 09:43:41 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6MDher25598 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:43:40 -0400
Received: from wh12485741 (216.249.154.5) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex
          6.5.007) id 3D0A970400158637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 08:39:59 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001101c23181$43830f40$059af9d8@murraystate.edu>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:11:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Pardon
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sorry about the multiple postings. For some reason I have been having
trouble lately posting to this <service> from my Hotmail account. Perhaps a
sign.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 03:57:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07062
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 03:57:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDDC92@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 9:57:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13583029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:03:03 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ME32r29931 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:03:02 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14174 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:03:02 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02
          10:03:02 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02 10:02:49 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3BD842.16988.58E931@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:02:43 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      keeping stats
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <001101c23181$43830f40$059af9d8@murraystate.edu>

  Four or five times a year the library does a week of keeping
statistics on questions that are answered and material that is moved.
It is my good fortune to be adding up the numbers this morning for
our department.  Each person keeps an hour by houry tally for each
day and I am putting the totals on one sheet for the whole
department.  It is interesting to me that no matter how many times I
say to people "all that matters is the totals and stats are reported for
the department as a whole" people insist on making notes about why
no numbers were recorded for any particular time slot -  "At lunch"
"meeting" "afternoon off"  etc.  These are intelligent people and they
understand that is an exercise in numbers only, yet somehow they
just can't resist the temptation to explain.  Where does this come
from?

  I won't even get into how meaningless the categories (and hence
the attached quantities) are.  What I dislike most in this is that
somewhere there is a decision maker who is taking these numbers
seriously.

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 03:59:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07075
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 03:59:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0014F596@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:05:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13583250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:05:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ME5ir30296 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:05:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BE2697CF8; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 07:05:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722140543.BE2697CF8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:05:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <193.a2a6de1.2a6d2e66@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Jul 22,
              2002  5:46:14 am"

Evelyn Duncan said:
> In a message dated 07/21/2002 9:50:16 PM Central Daylight Time,
> s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM writes:
>
> <<
> If you wish to file a
> lawsuit in federal court, you must first receive a "right to sue" letter
> from the EEOC, which may be
> requested 180 days after the complaint is filed
> >>
>
> Do I have to wait 180 days, or is this within 180 days.

You probably have to wait 180 days--a friend just went through this
for age discrimination.

> And what do I say to her today when she asks what I will do to
> improve my MA average?

Whatever she wants to hear.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 04:01:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07084
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 04:01:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDDD1F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:01:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13583416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:07:33 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f233.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.233]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ME7Xr30640 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:07:33 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          22 Jul 2002 07:07:27 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          22 Jul 2002 14:07:27 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2002 14:07:27.0623 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[1C618970:01C23189]
Message-ID:  <F233olj8Jecd92bXCH500018d4c@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:07:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Farewell friend
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

This is very sad news. I'm sorry, Anne.  :-(

Marie




>From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Farewell friend
>Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:51:54 -0500
>
>With sadness I have to report that Queenie, my favorite animal friend and
>loyal member of the household for 14 years, disappeared one night last week
>and has not returned. She was the best dog that I ever knew, the most
>loving. She helped get me through some very rough times. Last February on
>an ice-cold day, she got confused on one of our walks on the canal bank and
>plunged into the freezing water. I watched to see if she could swim back to
>the bank, but she started to drown instead. I dived in and threw her onto
>the bank. I saved her life that day, and it will always bother me that I
>wasn't able to protect her again last week. She was a good dog, the best
>little dog that I ever knew.
>
>-aht




Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 04:03:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07088
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 04:03:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDDD3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:03:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13583485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:09:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ME92r30910 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:09:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 12A627D7F; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 07:09:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722140902.12A627D7F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:09:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pilates instructor
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207220707360.9854-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 22, 2002  7: 9:40 am"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >Feldenkrais or foam roller? I've taken two foam roller classes from
> >two different PT/Pilates trainers. The Pilates Center of Austin offers
> >a body rolling class, which is mostly with balls. (I do those, too.)
>
> F.

eldenkrais or oam roller?

I do think of Feldenkrais as something for much older people.

> >Oh, yoohoo, Behtany!!! I don't live in California. I think Austin is
> >even better for this stuff, because it's easier to get to.
>
> But the instructor you like so much is near Stanford!

But I like most of the trainers here equally well. Every trainer is
different, and they all have their uses.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 04:05:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07092
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 04:05:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDDD6E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:05:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13583577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:11:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MEBEr31172 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:11:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9E2BD7CC3; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 07:11:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722141113.9E2BD7CC3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:11:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: keeping stats
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3BD842.16988.58E931@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              22, 2002 10: 2:43 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
>   Four or five times a year the library does a week of keeping
> statistics on questions that are answered and material that is moved.
> It is my good fortune to be adding up the numbers this morning for
> our department.  Each person keeps an hour by houry tally for each
> day and I am putting the totals on one sheet for the whole
> department.  It is interesting to me that no matter how many times I
> say to people "all that matters is the totals and stats are reported for
> the department as a whole" people insist on making notes about why
> no numbers were recorded for any particular time slot -  "At lunch"
> "meeting" "afternoon off"  etc.  These are intelligent people and they
> understand that is an exercise in numbers only, yet somehow they
> just can't resist the temptation to explain.  Where does this come
> from?

Guilt.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 04:07:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07101
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 04:07:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0014F65B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:13:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13583723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:13:44 -0400
Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.60]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6MEDhr31518 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          10:13:44 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-006neomahp0199.dialsprint.net ([63.186.48.199]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #1) id 17WdwU-0000NJ-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:13:43 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <193.a2a6de1.2a6d2e66@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3C1321.A9C59438@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:13:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Evelyn Duncan wrote:
>
> In a message dated 07/21/2002 9:50:16 PM Central Daylight Time,
> s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM writes:
>
> <<
> If you wish to file a
> lawsuit in federal court, you must first receive a "right to sue" letter
> from the EEOC, which may be
> requested 180 days after the complaint is filed
> >>
>
> Do I have to wait 180 days, or is this within 180 days.

I don't know.
>
> And what do I say to her today when she asks what I will do to
> improve my MA average?

Say, "I'll do my best."

--
Sylvia Edwards
Litopia    http://www.edwardsly.com
Sylvie's Place    http://www.geocities.com/s.words/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 04:11:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07108
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 04:11:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDDE52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:11:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13584931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:17:03 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MEH2r02292 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:17:02 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6MEH1Y05483 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          09:17:01 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <OE38s3zMT9VpZ7oNkD400003aac@hotmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <005101c2318a$a9feef60$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:18:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Farewell friend
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

With sadness I have to report that Queenie, my favorite animal friend
and loyal member of the household for 14 years, disappeared one night
last week and has not returned. She was the best dog that I ever knew,
the most loving. She helped get me through some very rough times. Last
February on an ice-cold day, she got confused on one of our walks on the
canal bank and plunged into the freezing water. I watched to see if she
could swim back to the bank, but she started to drown instead. I dived
in and threw her onto the bank. I saved her life that day, and it will
always bother me that I wasn't able to protect her again last week. She
was a good dog, the best little dog that I ever knew.

-aht

Isn't there a legend that says pets go away
from home to die?  If that is so, it must
be considered remarkable consideration.

                - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 04:17:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07124
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 04:17:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0014F761@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:23:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13585375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:23:33 -0400
Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MENXr03796 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:23:33 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.d2.1b469c74 (4313) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          10:23:27 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <d2.1b469c74.2a6d6f5f@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:23:27 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/22/2002 6:24:12 AM Central Daylight Time,
dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes:

<<
Don't say anything to her. Let the lawsuit be a <happy> surprise.
>>

Well, from reading the later posts it sounds as if I have no basis for
a lawsuit.  Oh, well.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 04:19:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07131
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 04:19:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDDF16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:20:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13585487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:25:48 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MEPmr04136 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:25:48 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-60.panax.com [63.163.41.60])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MEPln06624 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:25:47 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <001101c23181$43830f40$059af9d8@murraystate.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722101618.00b49ec8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:25:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: keeping stats
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3BD842.16988.58E931@localhost>

At 10:02 AM 7/22/2002 -0400, BrP wrote:
>   Where does this come from?

They might well be inferring (or fearing) that the numbers will be used as
some measure of "productivity," come next performance review.

>   I won't even get into how meaningless the categories (and hence
>the attached quantities) are.  What I dislike most in this is that
>somewhere there is a decision maker who is taking these numbers
>seriously.

Exactly.

For a while in TVA, divisions were required to report monthly on
significant actions/happenings, etc.  These reports were then distributed
to all other groups. If a division had nothing in particular to report, it
still reported that it had nothing in particular to report, because
<somebody> was keeping track of the number and timeliness of the reports.

cwv
It never hurts to be a little bit paranoid about human resources and
bean-counting groups.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 04:21:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07138
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 04:21:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDDF33@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:21:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13585572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:27:10 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MER9r04399 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:27:09 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZN00J0ZMT9Q8@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:27:09 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020718102539.02bb7dd0@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717211610.00b7f0d0@mail.panax.com>
            <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEJIGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020716100016.00bf3b80@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020722095944.03168030@victoria.nb.no>
Message-ID:  <3D3C15DE.3060904@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:25:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Grandchildren, gif and cod
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Wow.  Such big, healthy twins... and with pretty blond hair.
  Enjoy.

Espen Ore wrote:

> Yes, Emil and Christoffer are beautiful.
>
> Torbjørn made this with a throw-away-camera at the hospital:
>
> http://home.no.net/espenore/2002/sykehus.jpg
>
> I am not sure but I believe that the one on the left is Emila and
> Christoffer on the right.
>
> Here is Christoffer alone:
>
> http://home.no.net/espenore/2002/christof.jpg
>
> and here is Emil:
>
> http://home.no.net/espenore/2002/emil.jpg
>
> and here the proud father (with Emil) and the g-g-mother (with Christoffer)
> (the g-g-m's head is cut off in the photo).
>
> http://home.no.net/espenore/2002/togm.jpg
>
> Apart from all this family enjoyment we also bought a live cod, about 3.5
> kgs - they have tanks with live fish still in Bergen - and had a cod-fest
> on Saturday. We came close to fighting over the head and the liver but
> friendship prevailed.
>
> Espen
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 04:26:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07142
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 04:26:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDDFF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:26:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13585961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:32:01 -0400
Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MEW1r05378 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:32:01 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.3e.21845c2a (4313) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          10:31:54 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <3e.21845c2a.2a6d7159@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:31:53 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Farewell friend
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/22/2002 8:29:16 AM Central Daylight Time,
toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM writes:

<<
With sadness I have to report that Queenie, my favorite animal friend and
loyal member of the household for 14 years, disappeared one night last week
and has not returned.
>>

I am sorry, Anne.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 04:27:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07149
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 04:27:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE01D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:27:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13586081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:33:12 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MEXCr05707 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:33:12 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6MEXAY24338 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          09:33:11 -0500 (CDT)
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020718102539.02bb7dd0@victoria.nb.no>           
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717211610.00b7f0d0@mail.panax.com>           
            <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEJIGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>           
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020716100016.00bf3b80@victoria.nb.no>           
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020722095944.03168030@victoria.nb.no> 
            <3D3C15DE.3060904@swbell.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <005c01c2318c$ebb9ccc0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:34:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Grandchildren, gif and cod
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Wonderful pictures.

Wonderful babies.

        - Grandma Doris M

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 04:32:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07170
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 04:32:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE0D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:32:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13586451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:38:08 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MEc6r06719 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:38:06 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust164.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.166]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004116767@mx0.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:37:56 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3C1925.3CE66F1A@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:39:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      the twins
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

For some reason, I have not received the URL to see Espen's twins. Could
someone send it to me, please?

THanks,
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 04:37:31 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07174
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 04:37:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014F9A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:43:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13586758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:43:28 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MEhSr07659 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:43:28 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28256 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:43:27 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02
          10:43:28 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02 10:43:21 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D3BD842.16988.58E931@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3BE1C2.4404.7E05F0@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:43:15 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: keeping stats
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722101618.00b49ec8@mail.panax.com>

At 10:02 AM 7/22/2002 -0400, BrP wrote:
>   Where does this come from?

They might well be inferring (or fearing) that the numbers will be used as
some measure of "productivity," come next performance review.



Fearing perhaps (in the sense that fear is unreasonable).  They all know full well that the process is simply them giving me the sheets, me adding up the numbers for the department and reporting totals and that the worksheets they turn in are destroyed as soon as the numbers have been extracted.






>   I won't even get into how meaningless the categories (and hence
>the attached quantities) are.  What I dislike most in this is that
>somewhere there is a decision maker who is taking these numbers
>seriously.

Exactly.

For a while in TVA, divisions were required to report monthly on
significant actions/happenings, etc.  These reports were then distributed
to all other groups. If a division had nothing in particular to report, it
still reported that it had nothing in particular to report, because
<somebody> was keeping track of the number and timeliness of the reports.

cwv
It never hurts to be a little bit paranoid about human resources and
bean-counting groups.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 04:42:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07181
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 04:42:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE2F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:42:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13587770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:47:57 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MElvr09099 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:47:57 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29781 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:47:57 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02
          10:47:57 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02 10:47:55 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D3BD842.16988.58E931@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3BE2D3.18099.822EDC@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:47:47 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: keeping stats
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722101618.00b49ec8@mail.panax.com>

Why is there never a category "filling out this damned form" when
accounting for time spent.

BrP





> For a while in TVA, divisions were required to report monthly on
> significant actions/happenings, etc.  These reports were then distributed
> to all other groups. If a division had nothing in particular to report, it
> still reported that it had nothing in particular to report, because
> <somebody> was keeping track of the number and timeliness of the reports.
>
> cwv
> It never hurts to be a little bit paranoid about human resources and
> bean-counting groups.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 04:50:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07197
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 04:50:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE4B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:50:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13588643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:56:32 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MEuWr10977 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:56:32 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-140.panax.com
          [65.114.190.140]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6MEuVn11576 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          10:56:31 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <OE38s3zMT9VpZ7oNkD400003aac@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722105543.00a02bd0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:56:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Farewell friend
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <005101c2318a$a9feef60$360332d1@0018079268>

>Isn't there a legend that says pets go away
>from home to die?  If that is so, it must
>be considered remarkable consideration.
>                 - D. M.

I don't know about that.  I'd rather be there when a pet died than have to
wonder if and how they met their end.  Sorry for your loss, Anne.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 04:59:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07216
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 04:59:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE5C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:59:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13589407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:05:16 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MF5Gr12535 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:05:16 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust164.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.166]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004117253@mx0.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:03:17 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3C1F15.5CDA2CEC@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:04:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      a bon mot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

According to some one in Oregon, the president of the United States was
quoted in this morning's Oregonian as saying, "The problem with the
French is that they don't have a word for 'entrepreneur.'"
--
I am trying to obtain the exact reference, but thought I'd share this
meanwhile.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:05:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07248
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:05:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE65E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:06:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13589956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:11:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFBir14048 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:11:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E3B4E7D50; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 08:11:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722151143.E3B4E7D50@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:11:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <d2.1b469c74.2a6d6f5f@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Jul 22,
              2002 10:23:27 am"

Evelyn Duncan said:
> In a message dated 07/22/2002 6:24:12 AM Central Daylight Time,
> dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes:
> <<
> Don't say anything to her. Let the lawsuit be a <happy> surprise.
> >>
>
> Well, from reading the later posts it sounds as if I have no basis for
> a lawsuit.  Oh, well.

Don't give up so easily, Evelyn. Employers do not have the right to
ridicule employees.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:07:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07255
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:07:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE690@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:07:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13590134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:13:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFDQr14561 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:13:26 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E5F657D50; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 08:13:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722151325.E5F657D50@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:13:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: a bon mot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3C1F15.5CDA2CEC@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 22,
              2002 11: 4:53 am"

alyce cresap said:
> According to some one in Oregon, the president of the United States was
> quoted in this morning's Oregonian as saying, "The problem with the
> French is that they don't have a word for 'entrepreneur.'"
> --
> I am trying to obtain the exact reference, but thought I'd share this
> meanwhile.

Please god, let this be apocryphal.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:09:30 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07259
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:09:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0014FD2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:15:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13590325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:15:23 -0400
Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFFNr15027 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:15:23 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b6.1017e39 (22681) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul
          2002 11:15:14 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m18.webmail.aol.com [64.12.180.134]) by
          air-in04.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ42-0722111514;
          Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:15:14 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <1ECC6D45.4699EE4B.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:15:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: a bon mot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:

>alyce cresap said:
>> According to some one in Oregon, the president of the United States was
>> quoted in this morning's Oregonian as saying, "The problem with the
>> French is that they don't have a word for 'entrepreneur.'"
>> --
>> I am trying to obtain the exact reference, but thought I'd share this
>> meanwhile.
>
>Please god, let this be apocryphal.
>
>Karen
>

I have the sneaking suspicion it's not.

jbh (didn't see it in the NYT today, though)


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:10:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07263
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:10:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE6E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:10:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13589498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:16:29 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MF6Tr12718 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:06:29 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6MF6TUh012559 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:06:29 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207221106090.17780-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:06:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <18d.b16ceeb.2a6d44f2@aol.com>

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>You are working on an MA degree at Sears?
>
>
>Maintenance Agreements.

O.

Thanks,
Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:11:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07267
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:11:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE6F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:11:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13590442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:17:09 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFH9r15361 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:17:09 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZN00JU7P4K3S@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:17:09 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <1ECC6D45.4699EE4B.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Message-ID:  <3D3C2196.5000109@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:15:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: a bon mot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

jbh wrote:

> Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:
>
>
>>alyce cresap said:
>>
>>>According to some one in Oregon, the president of the United States was
>>>quoted in this morning's Oregonian as saying, "The problem with the
>>>French is that they don't have a word for 'entrepreneur.'"
>>>--
>>>I am trying to obtain the exact reference, but thought I'd share this
>>>meanwhile.
>>>
>>Please god, let this be apocryphal.
>>
>>Karen
>>
>>
>
> I have the sneaking suspicion it's not.
>
> jbh (didn't see it in the NYT today, though)
>


Don't rich-boy Ivy League educations require French?



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:12:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07272
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:12:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE704@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:12:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13590467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:17:57 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFHvr15437 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:17:57 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZN00JTYP5W55@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:17:56 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207211435170.8938-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
            <3D3B2EB4.10503@swbell.net> <20020721190012.A25702@pobox.com>
Message-ID:  <3D3C21C6.5060803@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:16:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: I need a dummies book
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:

> I didn't catch the whole thread, but if Rita is writing a dummies book
> about geriatric sex with a humorous twist, I will definitely buy it!
>


Here's Chapter 2, Bethany.





--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:14:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07280
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:14:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE74D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:14:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13590672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:20:42 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFKgr15986 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:20:42 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6MFKex29935 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:20:40 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207221019440.29345-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:20:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: a bon mot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <1ECC6D45.4699EE4B.0099AB05@netscape.net>

> Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:
>
> >Please god, let this be apocryphal.
> I have the sneaking suspicion it's not.

I first heard it as a joke the French are enjoying (and that somebody
French made up)

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:16:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07292
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:16:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014FDD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:22:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13590769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:22:19 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFMJr16293 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:22:19 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EB1827C9C; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 08:22:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722152218.EB1827C9C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:22:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: a bon mot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3C2196.5000109@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 22,
              2002 10:15:34 am"

Rita Chapman said:
> Don't rich-boy Ivy League educations require French?

Don't rich-boy prep school educations require French?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:17:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07296
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:17:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0014FDDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:22:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13590836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:22:56 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFMur16382 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:22:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C59777EF2; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 08:22:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722152255.C59777EF2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:22:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: a bon mot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207221019440.29345-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 22, 2002 10:20:40 am"

Ann Borkin said:
> > Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:
> > >Please god, let this be apocryphal.
> > I have the sneaking suspicion it's not.
>
> I first heard it as a joke the French are enjoying (and that somebody
> French made up)

Whew. Thanks for easing my pain.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:20:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07300
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:20:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE7F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:21:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13591282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:26:47 -0400
Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (imo-r09.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.105]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFQlr17391 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:26:47 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.16.227d48e0 (17230) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul
          2002 11:26:36 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <16.227d48e0.2a6d7e2c@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:26:36 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/22/2002 10:16:44 AM Central Daylight Time,
dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes:

<<
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>You are working on an MA degree at Sears?
>
>
>Maintenance Agreements.

O.


>>

Maintenance Agreements are the God of Sears; it will throw
associates into the mouth of Moloch to satisfy its greed.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:23:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07308
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:23:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE84E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:23:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13591608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:29:17 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFTHr18025 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:29:17 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust164.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.166]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005429057@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:29:15 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020722152255.C59777EF2@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3C252B.1E47EB20@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:30:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: a bon mot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > I first heard it as a joke the French are enjoying (and that somebody
> > French made up)
>
> Whew. Thanks for easing my pain.

I hope that it is a joke. It is a good one, whether vrai or faux.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:24:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07315
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:24:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE860@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:24:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13591683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:30:09 -0400
Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFU9r18239 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:30:09 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.156.113365e4 (17230) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul
          2002 11:30:03 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <156.113365e4.2a6d7efb@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:30:03 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/22/2002 10:11:51 AM Central Daylight Time,
karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:

<<
Don't give up so easily, Evelyn. Employers do not have the right to
ridicule employees.


>>

I'm just so tired.  I'm not the only associate who feels used by her.
I had a guidance counselor who was just like her:  Miss Read.
She would smile in your face while stabbing you in the back.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:28:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07319
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:28:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE8B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:28:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13591926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:34:02 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFY2r18838 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:34:02 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6MFY0900572 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:34:00 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207221033060.99-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:34:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: a bon mot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3C252B.1E47EB20@valstar.net>

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

> Karen Kay wrote:
> > >
> > > I first heard it as a joke the French are enjoying (and that somebody
> > > French made up)
> >
> > Whew. Thanks for easing my pain.
>
> I hope that it is a joke. It is a good one, whether vrai or faux.

Some blog is saying it was reported in the London Times.  I coudn't find
it there though just now and don't have time to search any more.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:32:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07344
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:32:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE95C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:33:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13592346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:38:48 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6MFcmr19818 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:38:48 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA29435
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          08:38:46 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id ECE6E97004 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:38:45 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 29426 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2002 15:38:45 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 22 Jul 2002 15:38:45 -0000
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130305b961d5d78ff0@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:38:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: a bon mot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3C1F15.5CDA2CEC@valstar.net>

>According to some one in Oregon, the president of the United States was
>quoted in this morning's Oregonian as saying, "The problem with the
>French is that they don't have a word for 'entrepreneur.'"
>--
>I am trying to obtain the exact reference, but thought I'd share this
>meanwhile.
>
>alyce

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.  For now, this quotation
appears to be in the Liz Smith category.  Here's the other top Google hit:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47246-2002Jul10.html

Ken Miller
Mikkelson School of Snopery

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:33:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07348
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:33:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE967@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:33:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13592380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:39:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFdar19938 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:39:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A83407F7A; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 08:39:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722153935.A83407F7A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:39:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: a bon mot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3C252B.1E47EB20@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 22,
              2002 11:30:51 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > >
> > > I first heard it as a joke the French are enjoying (and that somebody
> > > French made up)
> >
> > Whew. Thanks for easing my pain.
>
> I hope that it is a joke. It is a good one, whether vrai or faux.

Yes.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:34:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07352
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:34:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDE975@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:34:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13592421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:40:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFe7r20077 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:40:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0515F7FD0; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 08:40:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722154005.0515F7FD0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:40:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <156.113365e4.2a6d7efb@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Jul 22,
              2002 11:30: 3 am"

Evelyn Duncan said:
> In a message dated 07/22/2002 10:11:51 AM Central Daylight Time,
> karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:
>
> <<
> Don't give up so easily, Evelyn. Employers do not have the right to
> ridicule employees.
>
>
> >>
>
> I'm just so tired.

I understand. But you do have recourse.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:36:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07356
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:36:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00150013@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:42:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13592707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:42:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFgMr20654 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:42:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 51A3F7F36; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 08:42:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722154221.51A3F7F36@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:42:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      CD players?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

It seems like everything is dying on me.

My CD player has started skipping like mad. The CDs are fine--and in
any case, it doesn't skip in the same place on the same CD. I know
this is a stupid question, but is there a way to clean a CD player?

Could it be more than dirt?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:39:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07363
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:39:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00150071@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:45:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13592921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:45:05 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFj0r21126 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:45:05 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6MFoeF08002 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:50:40
          +0200
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020722175039.A7991@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:50:39 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      bush  entrepreneur french
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ny-lizsmith2781783jul12.column

http://www.iht.com/articles/64155.html
(last page of the article)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47246-2002Jul10.html

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:40:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07374
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:40:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDEA2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:40:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13592980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:45:58 -0400
Received: from fido.kiva.net (fido.kiva.net [216.9.137.65]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6MFjwr21358 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:45:58 -0400
Received: (qmail 21278 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2002 15:45:54 -0000
Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by fido.kiva.net with SMTP; 22
          Jul 2002 15:45:54 -0000
Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id 470FD34F11; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:45:56 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix)
          with ESMTP id 464822D643 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul
          2002 10:45:56 -0500 (EST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207221040390.10166-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:45:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tom Lee <flint@KIVA.NET>
Subject:      Re: a bon mot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3C1F15.5CDA2CEC@valstar.net>

        This columnist claims the story has been debunked; it was
supposedly said to Tony Blair, and Blair's <people> don't recall W. ever
saying this.

http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ny-lizsmith2781783jul12035632.column

--
Take care,
Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
Where Liz Smith got her info, I don't know

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

> According to some one in Oregon, the president of the United States was
> quoted in this morning's Oregonian as saying, "The problem with the
> French is that they don't have a word for 'entrepreneur.'"
> --
> I am trying to obtain the exact reference, but thought I'd share this
> meanwhile.
>
> alyce
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:43:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07379
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:43:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDEA72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:43:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13593216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 11:49:20 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFnKr21947 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:49:20 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22863 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:49:19 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02
          11:49:20 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02 11:49:01 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3BF127.32369.E57BB5@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:48:56 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Dinner so sucked!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020720053554.084237C5F@yellow.rahul.net>

What else could possibly matter about the dinner then?

BrP


> *er* is an extremely good sport, I found, and I like the fact that he
> is willing and able to discuss an experience while in the middle of it.
> I think he understood what I was aiming for, even though I didn't
> quite achieve it.

> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:54:05 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07399
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:54:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001501E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:00:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13594036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 12:00:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFxxr24506 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:00:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0558487B2; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 08:58:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722155819.0558487B2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:58:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dinner so sucked!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3BF127.32369.E57BB5@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              22, 2002 11:48:56 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
I said:
> > *er* is an extremely good sport, I found, and I like the fact that he
> > is willing and able to discuss an experience while in the middle of it.
> > I think he understood what I was aiming for, even though I didn't
> > quite achieve it.

And Paul replied:
> > What else could possibly matter about the dinner then?

Nothing.:) You can see why I'm loopy for him, though.

The next night, we made more Japanese food, and I think that gave him
a sense of a more informal meal.

Also, I'm having another austin.food party in a few weeks--this time,
it's going to be a Japanese potluck. Since Japanese food doesn't make
good leftovers, we are going to have designated eaters, as well.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:59:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07419
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 05:59:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0015026B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:05:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13594304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 12:05:06 -0400
Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MG56r25363 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:05:06 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.154.11423e7f (3890) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul
          2002 12:05:00 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <154.11423e7f.2a6d872b@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:04:59 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/22/2002 10:40:28 AM Central Daylight Time,
karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:

<<
I understand. But you do have recourse.


>>

I am going to tell her that I will be more aggressive with customers,
fellow associates (Annegret), AND managers.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:01:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07431
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 06:01:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDEC29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:01:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13594582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 12:07:15 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MG7Fr25890 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:07:15 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29514 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:06:44 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02
          12:06:44 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02 12:06:31 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <020719.084830.EDT.PRIMATE@BROWNVM.brown.edu>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3BF543.14055.F58A22@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:06:28 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Department of People With Too Much Time On Their Hands
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020722110243.00ae4540@victoria.nb.no>

I would think Taming of the Shrew would be fun in Klingon too.

BrP

>
> One of the participants at a meeting at Berkeley last fall was proofreading
> his trranslation of As Yopu Like It into Klingon.
>
> Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:02:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07436
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 06:02:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001502E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:08:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13594710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 12:08:50 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MG8or26218 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:08:50 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00188 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:08:48 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02
          12:08:49 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02 12:08:15 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D3BF127.32369.E57BB5@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul   
            22, 2002 11:48:56 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3BF5AA.11375.F71B62@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:08:11 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Dinner so sucked!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020722155819.0558487B2@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen:
> You can see why I'm loopy for him, though.

Yes - and I understand loopy well.


BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:08:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07441
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 06:08:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDECBE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:08:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13595135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 12:14:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MGEcr27274 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:14:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1F2A17F5C; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 09:14:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722161438.1F2A17F5C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:14:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <154.11423e7f.2a6d872b@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Jul 22,
              2002 12: 4:59 pm"

Evelyn Duncan said:
> I am going to tell her that I will be more aggressive with customers,
> fellow associates (Annegret), AND managers.

Good.

But you still do have other recourse to change the situation.

I'm not sure what the rationale for the 6-month waiting period is,
whether it's supposed to be a cooling off period or what. You
shouldn't let it deter you.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:09:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07448
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 06:09:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDECC8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:09:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13595173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 12:15:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MGF4r27386 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:15:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A15637F7A; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 09:15:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722161503.A15637F7A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:15:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dinner so sucked!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3BF5AA.11375.F71B62@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              22, 2002 12: 8:11 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> Karen:
> > You can see why I'm loopy for him, though.
>
> Yes - and I understand loopy well.

:))))

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:12:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07452
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 06:12:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDED0B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:12:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13595354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 12:18:01 -0400
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MGI1r27851 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:18:01 -0400
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu
          (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id
          <0.03EDED0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:12:17 -0400
Message-ID:  <200207221618.g6MGI1r27851@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:18:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dinner so sucked!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:08:11 EDT, Paul R. Barfoot <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
wrote:

>Karen:
>> You can see why I'm loopy for him, though.
>
>Yes - and I understand loopy well.

I forgot to say what I was thinking: if you were here, I'd probably be loopy
for you, too.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:15:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07468
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 06:15:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDED6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:15:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13595646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 12:21:32 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f11.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.11]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MGLWr28457 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:21:32 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          22 Jul 2002 09:21:26 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          22 Jul 2002 16:21:26 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2002 16:21:26.0617 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[D3FEAC90:01C2319B]
Message-ID:  <F11k4Io7yZvNnhz2HFw0001915d@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:21:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dinner so sucked!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>Also, I'm having another austin.food party in a few weeks--this time,
>it's going to be a Japanese potluck. Since Japanese food doesn't make
>good leftovers, we are going to have designated eaters, as well.

Aren't these the people that trashed your house last time?
Did you meet *er* through austin.food?

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:18:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07472
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 06:18:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDEDB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:18:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13595830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 12:24:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MGOWr28834 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:24:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D2FFD812D; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 09:24:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722162431.D2FFD812D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:24:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dinner so sucked!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F11k4Io7yZvNnhz2HFw0001915d@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 22, 2002 12:21:26 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> Aren't these the people that trashed your house last time?

They didn't trash my house, but they did break a musical instrument
and hide the pieces. I'm going to ask them to tell me when they break
something this time, and hope that works better.

> Did you meet *er* through austin.food?

Yes. From his posts, I thought he was a wizened old man. But the
reality was a pleasant shock.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:18:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07479
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 06:18:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDEDB4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:18:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13595834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 12:24:35 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MGOZr28840 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:24:35 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZN00JKJS8Y4P@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:24:34 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <OE38s3zMT9VpZ7oNkD400003aac@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D3C3164.7070007@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:23:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Farewell friend
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sorry to hear this.

Anne H Toal wrote:

> With sadness I have to report that Queenie, my favorite animal friend and loyal member of the household for 14 years, disappeared one night last week and has not returned. She was the best dog that I ever knew, the most loving. She helped get me through some very rough times. Last February on an ice-cold day, she got confused on one of our walks on the canal bank and plunged into the freezing water. I watched to see if she could swim back to the bank, but she started to drown instead. I dived in and threw her onto the bank. I saved her life that day, and it will always bother me that I wasn't able to protect her again last week. She was a good dog, the best little dog that I ever knew.
>
> -aht
>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:20:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07483
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 06:20:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDEDDD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:20:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13595943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 12:25:56 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MGPtr29049 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:25:55 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0613481FE; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 09:25:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722162554.0613481FE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:25:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Farewell friend
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE38s3zMT9VpZ7oNkD400003aac@hotmail.com> from Anne H Toal at
              "Jul 21, 2002  7:51:54 pm"

Anne H Toal said:
> With sadness I have to report that Queenie, my favorite animal friend and loyal member of the household for 14 years, disappeared one night last week and has not returned. She was the best dog that I ever knew, the most loving. She helped get me through some very rough times. Last February on an ice-cold day, she got confused on one of our walks on the canal bank and plunged into the freezing water. I watched to see if she could swim back to the bank, but she started to drown instead. I dived in and threw her onto the bank. I saved her life that day, and it will always bother me that I wasn't able to protect her again last week. She was a good dog, the best little dog that I ever knew.

I am impressed that you jumped in and rescued her. But we can't
protect our loved ones from everything. I'm sorry, Anne.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:30:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07500
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 06:30:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDEEF0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:30:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13596891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 12:36:26 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f225.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.225]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MGaPr31527 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:36:26 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          22 Jul 2002 09:36:20 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          22 Jul 2002 16:36:19 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2002 16:36:20.0475 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[E8C694B0:01C2319D]
Message-ID:  <F225hx27kBnccYTjr8c00018f0c@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:36:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Hamden BBQ
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

This is for Lisa really, so I hope she's reading...someone is remembering a
bbq place in CT (and specifically mentioned Hamden). Is this possibly the
place you took Emily, Rashmeeber and me a handful of years back? Where was
it, what was the name?

It was GOOD GOOD GOOD.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:34:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07504
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 06:34:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDEF5B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:35:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13597230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 12:40:49 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MGenr32347 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:40:49 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6MGemsS404671 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          12:40:49 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001901c2319e$8903da00$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:40:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Grandchildren, gif and cod
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020722095944.03168030@victoria.nb.no>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Espen Ore
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:07 AM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Grandchildren, gif and cod
>
>
> Yes, Emil and Christoffer are beautiful.
>

Very cute babies.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:36:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07511
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 06:36:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001506AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:42:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13597448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 12:42:37 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MGgar00434 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:42:36 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id TAA11902 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:42:35
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA11819 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon,
          22 Jul 2002 19:42:33 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020718102539.02bb7dd0@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717211610.00b7f0d0@mail.panax.com>
            <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEJIGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020716100016.00bf3b80@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020722095944.03168030@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3C35E1.40FCB594@akad.ee>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:42:09 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      Re: Grandchildren, gif and cod
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Congratulations, Espen the Grandpa!

Kristin

Espen Ore wrote:

> Yes, Emil and Christoffer are beautiful.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:51:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07538
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 06:51:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDF0EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:51:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13598631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 12:57:14 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MGvEr03147 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:57:14 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc55 ([204.127.198.44]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020722165709.YAEN24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:57:09 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc55; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:57:07 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020722165709.YAEN24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:57:07 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hamden BBQ
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Yes, I remember going to the BBQ place and it was
goo-ood. Although I don't remember the name of it, I do
know it was in Bridgeport.

My uncle goes to a place with his coworkers that's in the
Hamden/Cheshire area. Unfortunately I have no idea what
it's called as I've never eaten there.

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

lisa
who's randomly reading
> This is for Lisa really, so I hope she's reading...someone is remembering a
> bbq place in CT (and specifically mentioned Hamden). Is this possibly the
> place you took Emily, Rashmeeber and me a handful of years back? Where was
> it, what was the name?
>
> It was GOOD GOOD GOOD.
>
> Marie
>    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 07:14:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07596
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 07:14:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00150AF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:20:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13600129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 13:20:39 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MHKdr07356 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:20:39 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-60.panax.com [63.163.41.60])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MHKcn03941 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:20:38 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020722101618.00b49ec8@mail.panax.com>
            <3D3BD842.16988.58E931@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722131606.00b54d48@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:17:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: keeping stats
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3BE2D3.18099.822EDC@localhost>

At 10:47 AM 7/22/2002 -0400, BrP wrote:
>Why is there never a category "filling out this damned form" when
>accounting for time spent.

Add it.  Remember the WWII story about the flypaper counts?

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 07:17:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07615
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 07:17:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDF328@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:17:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13600389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 13:23:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MHNbr07966 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:23:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A28B97DEC; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:23:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722172312.A28B97DEC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:23:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hamden BBQ
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020722165709.YAEN24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> from
              Lisa Alfieri at "Jul 22, 2002  4:57: 7 pm"

Lisa Alfieri said:
> Yes, I remember going to the BBQ place and it was
> goo-ood. Although I don't remember the name of it, I do
> know it was in Bridgeport.
>
> My uncle goes to a place with his coworkers that's in the
> Hamden/Cheshire area. Unfortunately I have no idea what
> it's called as I've never eaten there.
>
> Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

Try
http://communities.prodigy.net/gay-lesbian/Connecticut_new_haven.html
and search on barbecue.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 07:17:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07619
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 07:17:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EDF32A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:18:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13600397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 13:23:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MHNhr07988 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:23:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7408E7EB3; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:23:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722172339.7408E7EB3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:23:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: keeping stats
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722131606.00b54d48@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 22, 2002  1:17:15 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> At 10:47 AM 7/22/2002 -0400, BrP wrote:
> >Why is there never a category "filling out this damned form" when
> >accounting for time spent.
>
> Add it.  Remember the WWII story about the flypaper counts?

No.

Karen,
young

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 07:34:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07638
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 07:34:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00150CFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:40:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13601688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 13:40:22 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MHeMr11754 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:40:22 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc56 ([204.127.198.45]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020722174016.ZSRV26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:40:16 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc56; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:40:13 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020722174016.ZSRV26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:40:13 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Heck with campsites. We all want to sleep on the floor
at >your house.
>-aht

Speak for yourself!

Tina and I like nice comfy beds, in nice private rooms,
with nice showers that come with little soaps we can steal.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 07:35:31 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07645
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 07:35:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00150D14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:41:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13601743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 13:41:23 -0400
Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.56.244]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MHfMr11866 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:41:22 -0400
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21)
          id UAA19669 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:41:21
          +0300
Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian
          8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA19586 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon,
          22 Jul 2002 20:41:19 +0300
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3C43A7.905109E0@akad.ee>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:40:55 +0300
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Kristin Sarv <Kristin.Sarv@AKAD.EE>
Organization: Akadeemia
Subject:      nomail
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

For some time you are to manage without my strange words. Perhaps not
before than tomorrow 9.30a.m I'll be calm again, but then I certainly
will be, calm and pleased, sitting in the bus which will start to drive
towards Tallinn port.

I wish the best for you here and let your problems get solved.

Kristin

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 07:39:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07649
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 07:39:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE002B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:39:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13602200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 13:45:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MHj3r13062 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:45:03 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 993F77FAF; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 10:45:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722174502.993F77FAF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:45:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: nomail
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3C43A7.905109E0@akad.ee> from Kristin Sarv at "Jul 22,
              2002  8:40:55 pm"

Kristin Sarv said:
> For some time you are to manage without my strange words. Perhaps not
> before than tomorrow 9.30a.m I'll be calm again, but then I certainly
> will be, calm and pleased, sitting in the bus which will start to drive
> towards Tallinn port.
>
> I wish the best for you here and let your problems get solved.

Have a good trip, Kristin.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 07:52:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07665
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 07:52:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE017C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:52:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13603102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 13:58:33 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MHwWr15586 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:58:32 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-26.panax.com
          [65.114.190.26]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6MHwVn11530 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          13:58:32 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722135542.00a04660@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:58:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020722174016.ZSRV26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>

>Tina and I like nice comfy beds, in nice private rooms,
>with nice showers that come with little soaps we can steal.
>lisa

You will love the B&Bs of Bar Harbor.  Do you do B&Bs?  I've always been
curious about how a B&B gets in the gay-friendly listings.  The one I work
at is so listed.  I've checked in more male couples than female couples,
however.  It seems to be that the Innkeepers can be gay-friendly but they
certainly can't guarantee that everyone around their breakfast table on any
given morning is going to be free of prejudice.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 08:22:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07719
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 08:22:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE0422@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:22:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13604770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 14:28:05 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MIS5r19699 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:28:05 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc57 ([204.127.198.46]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020722182800.CLUJ24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:28:00 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc57; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:27:57 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020722182800.CLUJ24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:27:57 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: spaghetti sauce
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I love when I stumble upon things like this.

My favorite is when I come across Manhattan Clam Chowder
that tastes like my grandmother's.

It's hard enough to find the Manhattan variety but when
it tastes like hers I'm back at her table with a slice of
italian bread in one hand and a spoon in the other.

lisa
> Back in the early 90's there was a restaurant in McAllen which made the best
> spaghetti sauce I ever ate. Then in 1995 they went out of business, and I have
> tired to duplicate this sauce ever since. Sometimes a restaurant will
> approximate it, and I will patronize that place until the memory of the original
> sauce comes back, and then I leave, disappointed again.
>
> Well, tonight I was in a hurry to get dinner fixed, and I had a half a can of
> tomato sauce left over from lunch. So I minced some garlic and fried it in olive
> oil, threw in some dried basil leaves, three frozen meatballs and the half can
> of tomato sauce. Mirabile dictu, eureka, etc. This was the sauce. As soon as I
> tasted it, I had the strongest sense memory of sitting across the table from my
> mother at the restaurant in McAllen. I said to Graham that it tasted like coming
> home.
>
> All these years, fooling around with chicken broth because I was so sure that
> there was a chicken broth base. Clyde may remember mail from me a few years back > asking if there was any spaghetti sauce made with chicken broth. And tonight I
> had the same impression--that there was chicken broth in the sauce. No broth.
> Just tomato sauce, garlic, and basil.
>
> -aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 08:23:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07726
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 08:23:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE0445@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:23:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13604867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 14:29:10 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MITAr19908 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:29:10 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20699 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:29:05 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02
          14:29:05 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02 14:29:00 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <20020719004252.D06D58185@yellow.rahul.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3C16AA.2000.178085B@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:28:59 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Seaweed salad?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130307b95d313a6f24@[66.237.73.73]>

Heavily to my liking!

BrP




> <montypython>       </montypython>

>
> Ken Miller
> Connotational Correspondent
> The Lostin Times

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 08:26:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07730
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 08:26:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0015122A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:32:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13605240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 14:32:19 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MIWIr20775 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:32:18 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc57 ([204.127.198.46]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020722183213.CRJX24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:32:13 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc57; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:32:12 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020722183213.CRJX24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:32:12 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Evelyn how badly do you need to work at Sears? For as
long as I've been coming and going on this list you've
been unsettled with your employment there. Why not go
elsewhere?

If staying is what you want, tell Erin you're sick of the
treatment and she has two choices, extend the handrail or
have someone else do the work. Explain that anything less
with involve you, a lawyer and the ADA.

lisa
> In a message dated 07/21/2002 9:17:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
> s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM writes:
>
> <<
> Check out discrimination angles. when you talk to Erin
> et al.
>
> >>
>
> What do I say to her?  That Sears is in violation of the ADA
> because the handrail doesn't go all the way to the top; that
> she is in violation because of the insults she slung at me?
> Right now all I want to do to her is slug her.
>
> Evelyn Duncan
> brandykitt@aol.com
>
> Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 08:45:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07765
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 08:45:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE06A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:45:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13606546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 14:51:22 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f206.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.206]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MIpMr23957 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:51:22 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          22 Jul 2002 11:51:16 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 18:51:16 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2002 18:51:16.0924 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C2A2A7C0:01C231B0]
Message-ID:  <F206msfGdMNFmWAFsTm00003dc2@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:51:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>You will love the B&Bs of Bar Harbor.

Now here is a toothsome statement. What is there to love about B&Bs? Does
anyone prefer a B&B over a hotel room? Even a Super8 with a fat bored
community college graduate at the reception desk has got to be better than a
nosey pair of innkeepers living vicarious lives through their guests.
Talking broken Spanish to the illegal Guatemalan maid seems far preferable
to having to worry about messing up the furniture belonging to the
innkeepers.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:04:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07813
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 09:04:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE0844@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:04:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13607682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:10:05 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MJA5r26983 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:10:05 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc55 ([204.127.198.44]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020722190959.EEYA26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:09:59 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc55; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:09:58 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020722190959.EEYA26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:09:58 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I am going to tell her that I will be more aggressive
with >customers, fellow associates (Annegret), AND managers.

Replace aggressive w/ assertive.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:04:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07822
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 09:04:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE085D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:04:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13607751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:10:40 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MJAdr27088 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:10:40 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05327 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:10:37 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02
          15:10:38 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02 15:10:16 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g6MJAer27089
Message-ID:  <3D3C2052.6797.19DC2A8@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:10:11 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F206msfGdMNFmWAFsTm00003dc2@hotmail.com>

When I stayed in Princeton in April, my $219/ night Best Western
room where the phone didn't work and the lamps fell off the wall
made me long for the days of the Youth Hostel.  I think of a B&B
as a kind of upscale hostel where half the fun is the eccentricity of
the place and the other half is the eccentricity of the people.

BrP



> >You will love the B&Bs of Bar Harbor.
>
> Now here is a toothsome statement. What is there to love about B&Bs? Does
> anyone prefer a B&B over a hotel room? Even a Super8 with a fat bored
> community college graduate at the reception desk has got to be better than a
> nosey pair of innkeepers living vicarious lives through their guests.
> Talking broken Spanish to the illegal Guatemalan maid seems far preferable
> to having to worry about messing up the furniture belonging to the
> innkeepers.
>
> -aht
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:07:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07827
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 09:07:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE08A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:07:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13607949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:12:57 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f92.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.92]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MJCur27564 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:12:56 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          22 Jul 2002 12:12:51 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 19:12:51 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2002 19:12:51.0437 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C639A9D0:01C231B3]
Message-ID:  <F92BNvsT0gkAwGjBGaR000185e0@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:12:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Replace aggressive w/ assertive.

No, bitch, YOU freakin' replace it!



_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:16:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07844
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 09:16:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00151744@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:22:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13608612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:22:36 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MJMZr29040 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:22:36 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-60.panax.com [63.163.41.60])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MJMZn27458 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:22:35 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722151116.00b5c8c8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:19:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F206msfGdMNFmWAFsTm00003dc2@hotmail.com>

At 01:51 PM 7/22/2002 -0500, aht wrote:
 >Now here is a toothsome statement. What is there to love about B&Bs? Does
>anyone prefer a B&B over a hotel room?

That there are somewhat more than 50 such establishments on MDI (based only
on the "yellow pages" listing) suggests that some people do in fact prefer
B&Bs.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:21:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07848
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 09:21:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE0A31@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:21:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13608985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:27:24 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MJROr29752 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:27:24 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12604 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:27:23 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02
          15:27:24 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02 15:26:56 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <F206msfGdMNFmWAFsTm00003dc2@hotmail.com>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3C243E.13142.1AD15BF@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:26:55 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Speaking of statistics
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722151116.00b5c8c8@mail.panax.com>

I've been meaning to see if anyone knows - ABC News reports, as
part of the weather, a figure called "temperature Index.  This
morning's figure was 911 degrees.  What on earth does this mean?

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:30:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07877
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 09:30:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE0B27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:30:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13609616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:36:05 -0400
Received: from biff.kiva.net (biff.kiva.net [216.9.137.5]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6MJa4r31066 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:36:05 -0400
Received: (qmail 32007 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2002 19:36:03 -0000
Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by biff.kiva.net with SMTP; 22
          Jul 2002 19:36:03 -0000
Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id 76CFF34F11; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 14:36:03 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix)
          with ESMTP id 75E8B2D643 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul
          2002 14:36:03 -0500 (EST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207221431210.10166-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:36:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tom Lee <flint@KIVA.NET>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of statistics
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3C243E.13142.1AD15BF@localhost>

        911 degrees?  Yowza!  There is a "Temperature-Humidity Index,"
sometimes called the "Heat Index" by some broadcasters, which reflects the
fact that it feels hotter when it's humid.  It's sort of like the reverse
of the wind chill factor with humidity in the place of wind speed.  But it
never gets to 911 degrees on Earth -- maybe there's a missing decimal
point in there, and that's meant to be 91.1?

--
Take care,
Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
Trying to make sense of it

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

> I've been meaning to see if anyone knows - ABC News reports, as
> part of the weather, a figure called "temperature Index.  This
> morning's figure was 911 degrees.  What on earth does this mean?
>
> BrP
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:31:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07881
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 09:31:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001518DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:37:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13609714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:37:24 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MJbNr31309 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:37:23 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust163.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.165]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0005434345@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:37:21 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F206msfGdMNFmWAFsTm00003dc2@hotmail.com>
            <3D3C243E.13142.1AD15BF@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3C5F42.C9B08291@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:38:42 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Speaking of statistics
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> I've been meaning to see if anyone knows - ABC News reports, as
> part of the weather, a figure called "temperature Index.  This
> morning's figure was 911 degrees.  What on earth does this mean?

I think there was an extra 1 in there. Should be 91, I'm pretty sure. It
is a thing that measures how hot it feels vs. how hot it is. Like the
wind chill in the winter, sort of. I don't know how they arrive at it. I
think it's what used to be called the heat and humidity index under a
new name. (People are just getting carried away with all that 911 stuff)

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:34:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07885
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 09:34:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE0B88@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:34:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13609856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:40:09 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f176.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.176]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MJe9r31629 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:40:09 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          22 Jul 2002 12:40:03 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 19:40:03 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2002 19:40:03.0906 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[9340AA20:01C231B7]
Message-ID:  <F176LiC1h1jYhAOylhg000042a6@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:40:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>That there are somewhat more than 50 such establishments on MDI (based only
>on the "yellow pages" listing) suggests that some people do in fact prefer
>B&Bs.

Or that there are an inordinately large number of bored no-lifers with
plenty of time on their hands and a large, underperforming property that
they need to make money on, because the bloated annuity checks of the
innumerable retirees in the area have inflated the cost of living beyond all
reason. Also, take into account the possibility that it is a closed, cozy,
almost incestuous business climate much like Block Island where competitive
businesses are kept out by the locals.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:34:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07892
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 09:34:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE0B8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:34:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13609877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:40:25 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MJePr31656 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:40:25 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020722194019.GBQF24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:40:19 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020722151116.00b5c8c8@mail.panax.com>
            <F206msfGdMNFmWAFsTm00003dc2@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722123038.021b3b40@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:36:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of statistics
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3C243E.13142.1AD15BF@localhost>

Paul R. Barfoot writes,

>I've been meaning to see if anyone knows - ABC News reports, as
>part of the weather, a figure called "temperature Index.  This
>morning's figure was 911 degrees.  What on earth does this mean?

It's just a statistic.

"Its purpose is to poke fun at the other indexes that people don't
understand. She said there is an actual mathematical formula that only one
person knows and computes using data from several cities. She also said
that its just for viewers to see that if the index goes up its going to be
hotter and if it goes down its going to be cooler."
<http://www.usatoday.com/weather/askjack/wagloindex.htm>

"It's a little weather humor, courtesy of 'ABC World News Now,' which
reports the made-up index to add a light touch to its overnight show."
<http://www.hollandsentinel.com/stories/112201/ent_112201117.shtml>

And more seriously,

"It is a measure of the National Temperature. This is accomplished by way
of an index. In this way the temperature, nationally, is indexed. It is
computed according to the temperatures measured across the nation, and
registers an index corresponding to the indexed temperatures. The
temperature index is a nationwide computation of the temperature indexed
via a nationwide formula for temperature indexing. It is a national index
measuring the temperature, and serves as an index. Nationally."
<http://trainman1.home.mindspring.com/misc/wnnfaq.html>

and "Yes, Virginia, There Is A National Temperature Index"
<http://www.kgb.com/virginia.html>.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:34:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07896
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 09:34:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE0B9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:35:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13609909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:40:48 -0400
Received: from biff.kiva.net (biff.kiva.net [216.9.137.5]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6MJemr31703 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:40:48 -0400
Received: (qmail 3737 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2002 19:40:48 -0000
Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by biff.kiva.net with SMTP; 22
          Jul 2002 19:40:48 -0000
Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id 23A4034F11; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 14:40:48 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix)
          with ESMTP id 13CFB2D643 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul
          2002 14:40:48 -0500 (EST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207221438020.10166-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:40:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tom Lee <flint@KIVA.NET>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of statistics
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3C5F42.C9B08291@valstar.net>

        I found this:

http://www.il-st-acad-sci.org/kingdom/geo1013.html

        So far I've heard it called:

        Temperature-Humidity Index (THI), apparently its official NWS name
        Heat Index
        Temperature Index
        Heat and Humidity Index
        Humidex (Canadian; though this may use a different formula)

--
Take care,
Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
Do you really need that index down to 8 decimal places?

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

> "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
> >
> > I've been meaning to see if anyone knows - ABC News reports, as
> > part of the weather, a figure called "temperature Index.  This
> > morning's figure was 911 degrees.  What on earth does this mean?
>
> I think there was an extra 1 in there. Should be 91, I'm pretty sure. It
> is a thing that measures how hot it feels vs. how hot it is. Like the
> wind chill in the winter, sort of. I don't know how they arrive at it. I
> think it's what used to be called the heat and humidity index under a
> new name. (People are just getting carried away with all that 911 stuff)
>
> alyce
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:35:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07900
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 09:35:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE0BA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:35:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13609926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:41:11 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f84.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.84]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MJfBr31745 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:41:11 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          22 Jul 2002 12:41:05 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 19:41:05 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2002 19:41:05.0898 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[B833E4A0:01C231B7]
Message-ID:  <F84Pur9gSRp9tgEaQ08000078ef@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:41:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      sleeping
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Come on, Clyde, quit avoiding it. You know you are going to have to open
your floor to wordslers and their sleeping bags. Accept it.

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:35:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07905
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 09:35:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00151941@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:41:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13609945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:41:36 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MJfar31788 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:41:36 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17429 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:41:05 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02
          15:41:06 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02 15:41:05 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D3C243E.13142.1AD15BF@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3C278E.10780.1BA073F@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:41:03 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Speaking of statistics
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207221431210.10166-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>

no it's not temp/humid index - it's always three digits and
represents some sort of total of a bunch of local temps I think - but
why then don't they just report an average?

BrP


>         911 degrees?  Yowza!  There is a "Temperature-Humidity Index,"
> sometimes called the "Heat Index" by some broadcasters, which reflects the
> fact that it feels hotter when it's humid.  It's sort of like the reverse
> of the wind chill factor with humidity in the place of wind speed.  But it
> never gets to 911 degrees on Earth -- maybe there's a missing decimal
> point in there, and that's meant to be 91.1?
>
> --
> Take care,
> Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
> Trying to make sense of it
>
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:
>
> > I've been meaning to see if anyone knows - ABC News reports, as
> > part of the weather, a figure called "temperature Index.  This
> > morning's figure was 911 degrees.  What on earth does this mean?
> >
> > BrP
> >

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:39:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07909
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 09:39:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE0C07@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:39:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13610269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:45:41 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MJjfr32580 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:45:41 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18965 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:45:40 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02
          15:45:40 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 22 Jul 02 15:45:16 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D3C243E.13142.1AD15BF@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3C2886.20928.1BDD173@localhost>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:45:12 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Speaking of statistics
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722123038.021b3b40@mail.istori.com>

ok this fits the silliness of World News Now.  I guess they figure
insomniacs need a little <special> entertainment. Thanks Pete.

BrP



> Paul R. Barfoot writes,
>
> >I've been meaning to see if anyone knows - ABC News reports, as
> >part of the weather, a figure called "temperature Index.  This
> >morning's figure was 911 degrees.  What on earth does this mean?
>
> It's just a statistic.
>
> "Its purpose is to poke fun at the other indexes that people don't
> understand. She said there is an actual mathematical formula that only one
> person knows and computes using data from several cities. She also said
> that its just for viewers to see that if the index goes up its going to be
> hotter and if it goes down its going to be cooler."
> <http://www.usatoday.com/weather/askjack/wagloindex.htm>
>
> "It's a little weather humor, courtesy of 'ABC World News Now,' which
> reports the made-up index to add a light touch to its overnight show."
> <http://www.hollandsentinel.com/stories/112201/ent_112201117.shtml>
>
> And more seriously,
>
> "It is a measure of the National Temperature. This is accomplished by way
> of an index. In this way the temperature, nationally, is indexed. It is
> computed according to the temperatures measured across the nation, and
> registers an index corresponding to the indexed temperatures. The
> temperature index is a nationwide computation of the temperature indexed
> via a nationwide formula for temperature indexing. It is a national index
> measuring the temperature, and serves as an index. Nationally."
> <http://trainman1.home.mindspring.com/misc/wnnfaq.html>
>
> and "Yes, Virginia, There Is A National Temperature Index"
> <http://www.kgb.com/virginia.html>.
>
> Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:48:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07930
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 09:48:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE0CD6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:48:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13610963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:54:01 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MJs1r01898 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:54:01 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-60.panax.com [63.163.41.60])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MJs0n00451 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:54:00 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722155028.00b5ae70@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:52:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F176LiC1h1jYhAOylhg000042a6@hotmail.com>

At 02:40 PM 7/22/2002 -0500, aht wrote:

>Or that there are an inordinately large number of bored no-lifers with
>plenty of time on their hands and a large, underperforming property that
>they need to make money on, because the bloated annuity checks of the
>innumerable retirees in the area have inflated the cost of living beyond all
>reason. Also, take into account the possibility that it is a closed, cozy,
>almost incestuous business climate much like Block Island where competitive
>businesses are kept out by the locals.

Dennis Miller you will never be.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:49:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07937
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 09:49:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE0CF2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:49:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13611044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:55:16 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f217.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.217]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MJtGr02104 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:55:16 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          22 Jul 2002 12:55:10 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          22 Jul 2002 19:55:10 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2002 19:55:10.0940 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[AFE311C0:01C231B9]
Message-ID:  <F217sjUHQHh2wLCVYl400019195@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:55:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: namibia
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
>Lufthansa serves wine from ordinary bottles and don't give out those small
>airplane bottles. I prefer this, it seems more normal, and they refill your
>glass as much as you wish. (I am of course talking about economy class.)

The thing that stands out for me from flying Lufthansa is the refreshing
steamed herbal cloth I received shortly before landing. I liked that.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:55:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07991
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 09:55:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE0D8A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:55:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13611481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 16:00:59 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MK0xr03416 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:00:59 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc56 ([204.127.198.45]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020722200053.GUFX26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:00:53 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc56; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:00:49 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020722200053.GUFX26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:00:49 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>You will love the B&Bs of Bar Harbor.  Do you do B&Bs?

Yes, I do B&B's. Tina doesn't really care whether a place
is fancy or frilly so long as it's clean. She would
prefer cheap whereas price doesn't matter so much to me.

>I've always been curious about how a B&B gets in the
>gay-friendly listings.  The one I work at is so listed.

My guess is they spent money to advertise in the gay
listing therefore they are gay friendly. Otherwise I have
no idea what the criteria is.

>I've checked in more male couples than female couples,
>however.

S'ok we get along better with boys than we do with girls.
We've taken to hanging out at the mostly gay boy bars. We
always make friends, someone always thinks we're
hysterical and we normally don't end up paying a dime for
our drinks playing into the myth that lesbians are cheap
(maybe it's true but I try to never be cheap.. I'd hate
to be thought of as such).

>It seems to be that the Innkeepers can be gay-friendly
>but they certainly can't guarantee that everyone around
>their breakfast table on any given morning is going to
be >free of prejudice.
>    --bonniev

Personally I'd rather the InnKeepers be friendly than the
guests.

This conversation reminds me of one of my Ptown trips.
Someone other than Tina and I went for a weekend in
October. It turned out to be the boy's leather weekend.
At first I was intimidated by these huge guys and all
their gear. It turned out they were a bunch of pussycats
and we had a great time with them.
The <funny> part of the weekend was Sunday morning as I
sat talking to the InnKeeper a straight Indian couple
came joined us. They wanted to go on a Whale Watch and
were asking the Innkeeper for help. The weather was
beautiful but very windy, prompting him to warn the
couple the boats might not be running.

They told him they only came to Ptown because someone
told them they could go on a whale watch from there. He
asked if they knew anything about the place. They didn't.
He started telling them about all the stuff going on and
how that particular weekend was Leather Weekend. He said
they  also had Gay Family Weekend, the AA weekend and
some other things.

The husband interrupted and asked how all of this could
be, wasn't it bad for business? The Innkeeper laughed
assured them it was terrific for business and went on to
tell them which restaurants were the best.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 10:05:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08023
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 10:05:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00151CA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:10:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13612186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 16:10:59 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MKAwr05029 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:10:58 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-143.panax.com
          [65.114.190.143]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6MKAwn03428 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          16:10:58 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722160833.00a15a70@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:10:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020722200053.GUFX26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>

>My guess is they spent money to advertise in the gay
>listing therefore they are gay friendly.

Nope, that's not it.  They don't have a clue how they got listed.  Nor does
this Jewish couple know how they got listed in the "good for Christians"
B&B list!  They don't pay to be listed in anything.

>Personally I'd rather the InnKeepers be friendly than the
>guests.     --lisa

Good to know.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 10:09:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08037
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 10:09:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE0EF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:09:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13612512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 16:15:14 -0400
Received: from biff.kiva.net (biff.kiva.net [216.9.137.5]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6MKFEr05817 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:15:14 -0400
Received: (qmail 30148 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2002 20:15:13 -0000
Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by biff.kiva.net with SMTP; 22
          Jul 2002 20:15:13 -0000
Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id CF1B334F11; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:15:13 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix)
          with ESMTP id CE4222D643 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul
          2002 15:15:13 -0500 (EST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207221442120.10166-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:15:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tom Lee <flint@KIVA.NET>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of statistics
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3C278E.10780.1BA073F@localhost>

        Wacky.  I've never heard of this.

--
Take care,
Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
Learning something new every day

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

> no it's not temp/humid index - it's always three digits and
> represents some sort of total of a bunch of local temps I think - but
> why then don't they just report an average?
>
> BrP
>
>
> >         911 degrees?  Yowza!  There is a "Temperature-Humidity Index,"
> > sometimes called the "Heat Index" by some broadcasters, which reflects the
> > fact that it feels hotter when it's humid.  It's sort of like the reverse
> > of the wind chill factor with humidity in the place of wind speed.  But it
> > never gets to 911 degrees on Earth -- maybe there's a missing decimal
> > point in there, and that's meant to be 91.1?
> >
> > --
> > Take care,
> > Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
> > Trying to make sense of it
> >
> > On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:
> >
> > > I've been meaning to see if anyone knows - ABC News reports, as
> > > part of the weather, a figure called "temperature Index.  This
> > > morning's figure was 911 degrees.  What on earth does this mean?
> > >
> > > BrP
> > >
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 10:22:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08051
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 10:22:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE1014@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:22:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13613387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 16:28:42 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6MKSfr08232 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:28:42 -0400
Received: from wh12485741 (216.249.154.5) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex
          6.5.007) id 3D0A97040015C12E for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:24:58 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <07a301c231be$c6db4000$059af9d8@murraystate.edu>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:31:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

-aht:

> Now here is a toothsome statement. What is there to love about B&Bs? Does
anyone prefer a B&B over a hotel room? Even a Super8 with a fat bored
community college graduate at the reception desk has got to be better than a
nosey pair of innkeepers living vicarious lives through their guests.
Talking broken Spanish to the illegal Guatemalan maid seems far preferable
to having to worry about messing up the furniture belonging to the
innkeepers.

Not to diss B&B's, their employees, nor other such enthusiasts -- but I
loathe such establishments -- especially the "breakfast conversations" -- in
any country.

But that's just me.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 10:53:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08094
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 10:53:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE13B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:53:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13616060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 16:59:17 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MKxHr13549 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:59:17 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust1.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.3]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.2.204) with ESMTP id
          <B0004124947@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 16:59:16 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <07a301c231be$c6db4000$059af9d8@murraystate.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3C7274.4F2966AF@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:00:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:> Not to diss B&B's, their employees, nor other
such enthusiasts -- but I
> loathe such establishments -- especially the "breakfast conversations" -- in
> any country.
>
> But that's just me.

And me. I would go to considerable lengths to stay in a motel rather
than a B&B. I have quite enough quaintness here at home, so don't want
to pay to get it somewhere else too.
B&Bs are multiplying around here. THere is but one hotel/motel in the
county, with lots of tourist attractions, so it is inevitable. They have
a captive audience just as in/on MDI. I have been in a couple owned by
people I know. They are quite nice, but I'd hate staying in them.

alyce

-

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 10:56:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08102
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 10:56:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00152254@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:02:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13617016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 17:02:07 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ML26r14381 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:02:06 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc55 ([204.127.198.44]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020722210201.JZON26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:02:01 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc55; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:02:00 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020722210201.JZON26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:02:00 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>>Replace aggressive w/ assertive.

>No, bitch, YOU freakin' replace it!


what? you mistake me for Karen or something?
lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:17:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08136
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 11:17:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00152427@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:23:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13618545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 17:23:04 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MLN4r17595 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:23:04 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc58 ([204.127.198.47]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020722212259.LKIN24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:22:59 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc58; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:22:58 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020722212259.LKIN24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:22:58 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I love B&B's. They have so much more charm than hotel
rooms. So far the ones I've stayed in, primarily in
ptown, have enough space so you can eat breakfast away
from others should you so chose.

The one thing I didn't like about the last one we stayed
in was having to share a bathroom. I am far too snobby
for this. Tina didn't mind at all. She'd stayed at this
place before and wanted to go back.

The long island ice tea cocktail hour changed my mind a
little bit, as did the ginger muffins, fresh from the
oven one morning but not enough to go back unless we had
a room with our own shower.
lisa
> Amy Burns Short wrote:> Not to diss B&B's, their employees, nor other
> such enthusiasts -- but I
> > loathe such establishments -- especially the "breakfast conversations" -- in
> > any country.
> >
> > But that's just me.
>
> And me. I would go to considerable lengths to stay in a motel rather
> than a B&B. I have quite enough quaintness here at home, so don't want
> to pay to get it somewhere else too.
> B&Bs are multiplying around here. THere is but one hotel/motel in the
> county, with lots of tourist attractions, so it is inevitable. They have
> a captive audience just as in/on MDI. I have been in a couple owned by
> people I know. They are quite nice, but I'd hate staying in them.
>
> alyce
>
> -

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:29:31 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08147
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 11:29:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0015253E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:35:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13619264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 17:35:18 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MLZIr19347 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:35:18 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-133.panax.com
          [63.163.42.133]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6MLZHn19310 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          17:35:17 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722172850.00a0a370@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:35:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <07a301c231be$c6db4000$059af9d8@murraystate.edu>

>Not to diss B&B's, their employees, nor other such enthusiasts -- but I
>loathe such establishments -- especially the "breakfast conversations" -- in
>any country.      --AS

I don't like the forced togetherness of breakfast at B&Bs either.   Back
when we stayed at the Cleftstone as tourists here in Bar Harbor, I would
sometimes skip breakfast because I just didn't feel like talking to anybody
that early in the morning.  The B&Bs that Betty and I stayed at in March
all had breakfast rooms where you could sit at your own table and didn't
have to talk to anybody.  That isn't possible at the Hearthside, where I
work on Tuesdays.  For that reason alone I wouldn't stay there.

But lots of people love telling the other guests about what they did the
day before and what they intend to do that day and where they had dinner
last night, etc., etc.  I'm just not that social.    And usually it is the
guests that talk to one another.  The Innkeepers that I'm familiar with are
thoroughly sick of chatting with guests.  They are especially sick of
answering the same old questions:  "what did you do before you bought the
Inn"  "why did you get into Innkeeping"   They'd rather answer questions
about what are the best hikes and where are the best restaurants than talk
about themselves.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:32:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08165
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 11:32:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00152568@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:38:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13619385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 17:38:06 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MLc6r19604 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:38:06 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-133.panax.com
          [63.163.42.133]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6MLc5n19925 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          17:38:05 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <07a301c231be$c6db4000$059af9d8@murraystate.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722173530.00a002a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:37:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3C7274.4F2966AF@valstar.net>

>B&Bs are multiplying around here. THere is but one hotel/motel in the
>county, with lots of tourist attractions, so it is inevitable. They have
>a captive audience just as in/on MDI. I have been in a couple owned by
>people I know. They are quite nice, but I'd hate staying in them.  --alyce

Actually, it is far from the case that the B&Bs have a captive audience on
MDI.  This isn't Block Island.  You can drive off of it at will.  And there
are just as many motels here, if not more, than B&Bs.   I know of more
motels that have opened than B&Bs in the last five years.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:35:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08173
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 11:35:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE1864@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:35:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13619491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 17:40:52 -0400
Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MLeqr19854 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:40:52 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.1a9.5802fb4 (4316) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          17:40:43 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <1a9.5802fb4.2a6dd5da@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:40:42 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of statistics
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/22/2002 2:40:30 PM Central Daylight Time,
kaminski@ISTORI.COM writes:

<<
"It's a little weather humor, courtesy of 'ABC World News Now,' which
reports the made-up index to add a light touch to its overnight show."
<http://www.hollandsentinel.com/stories/112201/ent_112201117.shtml>


>>

They used to give weather reports from Cicely, Alaska, and Twin Peaks,
Washington.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:37:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08182
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 11:37:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE1879@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:37:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13619557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 17:42:48 -0400
Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MLgmr20106 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:42:48 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.160.11032776 (4316) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul
          2002 17:42:46 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <160.11032776.2a6dd656@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:42:46 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/22/2002 1:32:42 PM Central Daylight Time,
alfieri@ATTBI.COM writes:

<<
Evelyn how badly do you need to work at Sears?
>>

Every time I've tried to find another job, it gets blocked,
and I ask myself if I can put up with it.  But now I can't.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:58:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08238
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 11:58:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE1A86@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:58:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13621133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 18:03:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MM3pr22996 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:03:51 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D7F467C70; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 15:03:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020722220350.D7F467C70@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:03:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <160.11032776.2a6dd656@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Jul 22,
              2002  5:42:46 pm"

Evelyn Duncan said:
> In a message dated 07/22/2002 1:32:42 PM Central Daylight Time,
> alfieri@ATTBI.COM writes:
>
> <<
> Evelyn how badly do you need to work at Sears?
> >>
>
> Every time I've tried to find another job, it gets blocked,
> and I ask myself if I can put up with it.  But now I can't.

What do you mean blocked? Are you looking outside of Sears?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 12:00:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08256
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 12:00:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001527BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:06:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13620266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 18:06:36 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MLuar21698 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:56:36 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6MLuaUh006424 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:56:36 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207221754280.21498-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:56:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <160.11032776.2a6dd656@aol.com>

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>Evelyn how badly do you need to work at Sears?
>>>
>Every time I've tried to find another job, it gets blocked,
>and I ask myself if I can put up with it.  But now I can't.

How "blocked"? I'm not sure what you mean. I believe that you have
options. I also believe that one of the hardest and best things to do in
life is to identify one's options. I have learned that no matter how few
or many options I can see, there are always more than I can see at first.

Go for it!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 12:28:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08291
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 12:28:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE1C31@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:28:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13622601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 18:34:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MMY9r26455 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:34:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws206-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.206]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6MMY4707525
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:34:05 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020722154221.51A3F7F36@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3C8855.5105EB56@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:33:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: CD players?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> this is a stupid question, but is there a way to clean a CD player?

I cleaned the one I found in the garbage in Japan, and it started
working again.  I don't remember exactly what I did except that I took
apart anything that looked easy to put back where it belonged and
cleaned everything -- can't remember whether I used a dustcloth or a
sponge or what.  It hadn't worked when I brought it upstairs (which is
presumably why it had been tossed into the gomi), but after my cleaning
job it worked fine for the rest of the year and is said to be still
working fine.  I cleaned it with abandon, of course, since I had nothing
to lose.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 12:37:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08308
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 12:37:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE1CA3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:37:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13622950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 18:43:23 -0400
Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6MMhNr27317 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          18:43:23 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-204-241.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.204.241]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6MMhMF153854 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul
          2002 18:43:22 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEECAFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:42:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Farewell friend
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE38s3zMT9VpZ7oNkD400003aac@hotmail.com>

I'm so sorry, Anne.

Sandra

> With sadness I have to report that Queenie, my favorite animal
> friend and loyal member of the household for 14 years,
> disappeared one night last week and has not returned. She was the
> best dog that I ever knew, the most loving. She helped get me
> through some very rough times. Last February on an ice-cold day,
> she got confused on one of our walks on the canal bank and
> plunged into the freezing water. I watched to see if she could
> swim back to the bank, but she started to drown instead. I dived
> in and threw her onto the bank. I saved her life that day, and it
> will always bother me that I wasn't able to protect her again
> last week. She was a good dog, the best little dog that I ever knew.
>
> -aht
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 13:21:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08354
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 13:21:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE1EF6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:21:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13625018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 19:27:19 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MNRJr32208 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:27:19 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws105-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.105]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6MNRG722051
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:27:17 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3C94CF.78F57246@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:27:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Airports
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I was surprised today when I went to meet a flight bringing Japanese
friends that the airport appears to be back to pre-9/11 normalcy, at
least from the perspective of one not actually getting on a plane.  Is
that happening elsewhere also?  No more National Guardsmen stalking
around with guns, no more ban on brief parking in front of the doors,
etc.  It felt good.

Planes are getting absurdly early these days.  As I was heading up the
road toward the airport at 1:35 to meet their 2:15 flight, knowing it
would be early, I saw the plane heading in.  By the time I parked and
got inside, they were heading through the doors -- between 1:40 and
1:45.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 13:46:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08404
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 13:46:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE1FE0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:46:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13625781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 19:52:23 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6MNqNr02079 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:52:23 -0400
Received: from hppav (216.249.158.70) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex 6.5.007)
          id 3D0A97040015DE5C for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          18:48:43 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <003501c231db$0ea9c0c0$469ef9d8@hppav>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:54:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Airports
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

My former spouse reports near normalcy from the USAir terminal in =
Philadelphia. He's allowed to taxi up to 747s over to the maintenance =
area when necessary. I wish he'd get his flight-engineer certification =
(aka "third seat"). He air-commutes to Philly from Cleveland, and has =
thus far has escaped downsizing spurred on by 911. Anyway. He was not a =
great husband, but is an exemplary ex-.=20

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 14:26:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08431
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 14:26:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE215B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:26:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13627084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 20:32:13 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6N0WDr06020 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:32:13 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020723003208.PXXF19639.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:32:08 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGEBFGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:34:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Was it you, Adam?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEABFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

Nope. I mean, I read The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged, but I didn't
cleave unto Objectivism.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU]On Behalf Of S Hess
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 9:56 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Was it you, Adam?
>
>
> Adam's into John Galt, too?
>
> Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 14:46:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08487
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 14:46:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00153167@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:52:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13627699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 20:52:36 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6N0qar07903 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:52:36 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020723005230.RDGA19639.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:52:30 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGMEBFGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:55:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F176LiC1h1jYhAOylhg000042a6@hotmail.com>

> Also, take into account the possibility that it is a closed, cozy,
> almost incestuous business climate much like Block Island where
> competitive businesses are kept out by the locals.
>
> -aht

My God, are you still pissed about the price of groceries there? Let it go,
already!

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 14:54:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08495
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 14:54:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE2237@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:54:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13627886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 20:59:50 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6N0xnr08485 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:59:50 -0400
Received: from hppav (216.249.158.69) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex 6.5.007)
          id 3D0A97040015E77A for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          19:56:07 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <001b01c231e4$7838fb60$459ef9d8@hppav>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:00:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Also, take into account the possibility that it is a closed, cozy,
> almost incestuous business climate much like Block Island where
> competitive businesses are kept out by the locals.
>
> -aht


>My God, are you still pissed about the price of groceries there? Let it go,
already!


>--Adam

Such is island life in many locales.

AS, still enjoying living at 1/3 the dollar amount of a previous life

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 15:02:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08516
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 15:02:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE228B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:02:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13628158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 21:07:57 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6N17vr09368 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:07:57 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws107-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.107]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6N16g715489
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:06:42 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGMEBFGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3CAC1D.A06DB6DF@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:06:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:
>
> > Also, take into account the possibility that it is a closed, cozy,
> > almost incestuous business climate much like Block Island where
> > competitive businesses are kept out by the locals.
> >
> > -aht
>
> My God, are you still pissed about the price of groceries there? Let it go,
> already!

As I think I said then, the grocery prices on Block Island were lower
than in Starkville, MS (of the things I know the price of here -- like
icecream) -- quite a bit lower.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 15:02:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08523
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 15:02:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE2292@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:02:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13628172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 21:08:04 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6N183r09393 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:08:04 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-60.panax.com [63.163.41.60])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6N182n26510 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:08:02 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <F176LiC1h1jYhAOylhg000042a6@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020722210633.00b65688@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:07:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGMEBFGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

At 08:55 PM 7/22/2002 -0400, adam wrote:
> > Also, take into account the possibility that it is a closed, cozy,
> > almost incestuous business climate much like Block Island where
> > competitive businesses are kept out by the locals.
> >
> > -aht
>
>My God, are you still pissed about the price of groceries there? Let it go,
>already!

Aha--Thanks, Adam, that explains a lot.  I should have known that with aht,
it had to be about food.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 15:14:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08536
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 15:14:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001532F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:20:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13628493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 21:20:27 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6N1KRr10524 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:20:27 -0400
Received: from hppav (216.249.158.69) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex 6.5.007)
          id 3D0A97040015EA7A for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          20:16:44 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <004501c231e7$59a6b860$459ef9d8@hppav>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:22:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      I don't THINK so ...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lancome is advertising a line of purple eyeshadows in its Fall Collection.

AS, still recovering from the previous go-around

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 15:50:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08607
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 15:50:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE2402@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:50:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13629404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 21:55:45 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6N1tjr13446 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:55:45 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws126-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.126]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6N1tg726938
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:55:42 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F176LiC1h1jYhAOylhg000042a6@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020722210633.00b65688@mail.panax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3CB79C.E1C938F8@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:55:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

What, btw, is Acadiafest?  Did Rashmi make the annual announcement while
I was on nomail?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 16:20:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08665
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 16:20:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE254B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 22:20:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13630340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 22:26:16 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe61.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.196]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6N2QFr15979 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 22:26:15 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          22 Jul 2002 19:26:10 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
References:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGMEBFGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2002 02:26:10.0318 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[4EC412E0:01C231F0]
Message-ID:  <OE61MTr6btREqnhtHaR0000490b@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:24:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> My God, are you still pissed about the price of groceries there? Let it
go,
> already!

Orange juice, milk, photo film, you name it. I still say that place is ripe
for a Wal-Mart.

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 16:45:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08689
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 16:45:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE269F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 22:44:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13631327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 22:50:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6N2ofr18234 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 22:50:41 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D8FEE87F3; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 19:50:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020723025040.D8FEE87F3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:50:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Japanese Ice Cream
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4f.20a5c0e4.2a6a0de7@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Jul 19,
              2002  8:50:47 pm"

Evelyn Duncan said:
> Here's an URL from another list about ice cream featured at an
> exhibition of ice cream in Tokyo.
>
> http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/japano/0207/ice-cream/1.html

Thanks, Evelyn. *er* has eaten up all my vanilla ice cream, so I sent
this to him, to put him off ice cream forever.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:46:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08757
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 17:46:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00153D07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:52:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13637275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 23:52:12 -0400
Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6N3qCr24959 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:52:12 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.a5.2a99351e (18555) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul
          2002 23:52:04 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <a5.2a99351e.2a6e2ce4@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:52:04 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Japanese Ice Cream
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/22/2002 9:50:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:

<<
Thanks, Evelyn. *er* has eaten up all my vanilla ice cream, so I sent
this to him, to put him off ice cream forever.:)


>>

I wonder what their version of Dipping Dots would be.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:48:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08761
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 17:48:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE2EAB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:48:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13637344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 23:53:47 -0400
Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com (imo-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.165]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6N3rkr25068 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:53:46 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.59.1ead5323 (18555) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul
          2002 23:53:44 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <59.1ead5323.2a6e2d47@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:53:43 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/22/2002 10:11:51 AM Central Daylight Time,
karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:

<<
Don't give up so easily, Evelyn. Employers do not have the right to
ridicule employees.


>>

Electronics lost a person yesterday, and its top salesperson is thinking
of leaving due to Erin's obsession with Maintenance.  That will leave only
two people in electronics.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:49:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08765
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 17:49:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE2ECA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:49:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13637441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22
          Jul 2002 23:55:35 -0400
Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6N3tZr25232 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:55:35 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.63.ede2281 (18555) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          23:55:18 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <63.ede2281.2a6e2da6@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:55:18 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/22/2002 5:04:02 PM Central Daylight Time,
karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:

<<
What do you mean blocked? Are you looking outside of Sears?


>>

Yes, I've tried at other places.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:18:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08822
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 18:18:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE326E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 0:18:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13640375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 00:23:59 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6N4Nxr29054 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:23:59 -0400
Received: from hppav (216.249.158.65) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex 6.5.007)
          id 3D0A97040016000D for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          23:20:18 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <00ba01c23200$fdaf2d20$459ef9d8@hppav>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:25:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Japanese Ice Cream
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I wonder what their version of Dipping Dots would be.

>Evelyn

Made in Paducah, Kentucky!

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:23:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08831
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 18:23:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE327F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 0:23:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13640427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 00:28:55 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6N4Str29380 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:28:55 -0400
Received: from hppav (216.249.158.65) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex 6.5.007)
          id 3D0A970400160074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Jul 2002
          23:25:15 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <00c201c23201$aec38340$459ef9d8@hppav>
Date:         Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:30:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Japanese Ice Cream
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >I wonder what their version of Dipping Dots would be.
>
> >Evelyn
>
> Made in Paducah, Kentucky!
>
> AS

They use ours!

http://www.dippindots.com

http://www.dippindots.ne.jp/

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 20:48:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA09061
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 20:48:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE3742@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 2:48:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13644621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 02:54:04 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6N6s4r08674 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 02:54:04 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT7S4>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 08:54:03 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT7ST; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 08:54:01 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020723085325.02af0d30@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 08:53:57 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Farewell friend
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE38s3zMT9VpZ7oNkD400003aac@hotmail.com>

This is sad, but I am very happy that you jumped into the frozen canal and
got her up.

Espen

19:51 21.07.2002 -0500 skrev Anne H Toal:
>With sadness I have to report that Queenie, my favorite animal friend and
>loyal member of the household for 14 years, disappeared one night last
>week and has not returned. She was the best dog that I ever knew, the most
>loving. She helped get me through some very rough times. Last February on
>an ice-cold day, she got confused on one of our walks on the canal bank
>and plunged into the freezing water. I watched to see if she could swim
>back to the bank, but she started to drown instead. I dived in and threw
>her onto the bank. I saved her life that day, and it will always bother me
>that I wasn't able to protect her again last week. She was a good dog, the
>best little dog that I ever knew.
>
>-aht

  --
Espen S. Ore, National Library of Norway

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 21:02:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09089
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 21:02:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE3784@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 3:01:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13644882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 03:07:34 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6N77Yr09638 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 03:07:34 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT7T9>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:07:33 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT7T7; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:07:27 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020722101618.00b49ec8@mail.panax.com>
            <3D3BD842.16988.58E931@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020723090652.02b19700@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:07:23 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: keeping stats
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3BE2D3.18099.822EDC@localhost>

10:47 22.07.2002 -0400 skrev Paul R. Barfoot:
>Why is there never a category "filling out this damned form" when
>accounting for time spent.

I have always added such a category (or put it under "Various" with
explanation).

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 21:14:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09103
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 16 Jun 1960 21:14:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE37C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 3:13:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13645074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 03:19:37 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6N7Jar10418 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 03:19:36 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT7YA>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:19:35 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT7X0; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:19:29 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020723091853.02aef098@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:19:25 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: nomail
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3C43A7.905109E0@akad.ee>

20:40 22.07.2002 +0300 skrev Kristin Sarv:
>For some time you are to manage without my strange words. Perhaps not
>before than tomorrow 9.30a.m I'll be calm again, but then I certainly
>will be, calm and pleased, sitting in the bus which will start to drive
>towards Tallinn port.

Have a nice trip - wherever you are right now.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 01:00:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09396
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 01:00:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0015506F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 7:06:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13649840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 07:05:58 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NAtwr26895 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 06:55:58 -0400
Received: from menudo.vt.com (root@menudo.vt.com [204.117.188.234]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NAtv902577 for
          <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 06:55:57 -0400
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230]) by
          menudo.vt.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA00984 for
          <steph@words-l.org>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 04:26:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from [200.182.173.130] ([200.182.173.130]) by taco.vt.com
          (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA28696 for <steph@words-l.org>; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 04:33:24 -0500 (CDT)
X-Authentication-Warning: taco.vt.com: [200.182.173.130] didn't use HELO
                         protocol
Received: from words-l.org by LHIK6O502Y1MN.words-l.org with SMTP for
          steph@words-l.org; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 05:32:29 -0500
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g6NAtwr26896
Message-ID:  <0940GBO6997GU4U3WL.3NWFBBP38HHS4E9A.steph@words-l.org>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 05:32:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph@WORDS-L.ORG
Subject:      I deleted this TOO many times before I came to my $en$e$!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

All our mailings are sent complying to the proposed H.R. 3113 Unsolicited Commercial Electronic Mail Act of 2000. Please see the bottom of this message for further information and removal instructions.


PARENTS OF 15 - YEAR OLD - FIND $71,000 CASH HIDDEN IN
HIS CLOSET!

Does this headline look familiar? Of course it does. You most likely have just
seen this story recently featured on a major nightly news program (USA).
And reported elsewhere in the world (including my neck of the woods –
New Zealand). His mother was cleaning and putting laundry away when
she came across a large brown paper bag that was suspiciously buried
beneath some clothes and a skateboard in the back of her 15-year-old sons
closet. Nothing could have prepared her for the shock she got when she
opened the bag and found it was full of cash. Five-dollar bills, twenties,
fifties and hundreds - all neatly rubber-banded in labelled piles.

"My first thought was that he had robbed a bank", says
the 41-year-old woman, "There was over $71,000 dollars in that bag --
that's more than my husband earns in a year".

The woman immediately called her husband at the
car-dealership where he worked to tell him what she had discovered.He came
home right away and they drove together to the boys school and picked him up.
Little did they suspect that where the money came from was more shocking than
actually finding it in the closet.

As it turns out, the boy had been sending out, via
E-mail, a type of "Report" to E-mail addresses that he obtained off the
Internet. Everyday after school for the past 2 months, he had been doing
this right on his computer in his bedroom.

"I just got the E-mail one day and I figured what the
heck, I put my name on it like the instructions said and I started sending it
out", says the clever 15-year-old.

The E-mail letter listed 5 addresses and contained
instructions to send one $5 dollar bill to each person on the list, then delete
the address at the top and move the others addresses Down , and finally
to add your name to the top of the list.

The letter goes on to state that you would receive
several thousand dollars in five-dollar bills within 2 weeks if you sent out
the letter with your name at the top of the 5-address list. "I get junk
E-mail all the time, and really did not think it was going to work", the boy
continues.

Within the first few days of sending out the E-mail,
the Post Office Box that his parents had gotten him for his video-game
magazine subscriptions began to fill up with not magazines, but envelopes
containing $5 bills.

"About a week later I rode [my bike] down to the post office and my box
had 1 magazine and about 300 envelops stuffed in it. There was also a yellow
slip that said I had to go up to the [post office] counter.
I thought I was in trouble or something (laughs)". He goes on, "I went up
to the counter and they had a whole box of more mail for me. I had to ride
back home and empty out my backpack because I could not carry it all".
Over the next few weeks, the boy continued sending out the E-mail."The
money just kept coming in and I just kept sorting it and stashing it in the
closet, barely had time for my homework".He had also been riding his bike
to several of the banks in his area and exchanging the $5 bills for twenties,
fifties and hundreds.

"I didn't want the banks to get suspicious so I kept riding to different banks
with like five thousand at a time in my backpack. I would usually tell the lady
at the bank counter that my dad had sent me in to exchange the money] and
he was outside waiting for me.One time the lady gave me a really strange look
and told me that she would not be able to do it for me and my dad would have
to come in and do it, but I just rode to the next bank down the street (laughs)."
Surprisingly, the boy did not have any reason to be afraid.The reporting news

team examined and investigated the so-called "chain-letter" the boy was
sending out and found that it was not a chain-letter at all.In fact, it was
completely legal according to US Postal and Lottery Laws, Title 18,
Section 1302 and 1341, or Title 18, Section 3005 in the US code, also in the
code of federal regulations, Volume 16, Sections 255 and 436, which
state a product or service must be exchanged for money received.

Every five-dollar bill that he received contained a little note that read,
"Please send me report number XYX".This simple note made the letter
legal because he was exchanging a service (A Report on how-to) for
a five-dollar fee.

[This is the end of the media release. If you would
like to understand how the system works and get your $71,000 - please
continue reading. What appears below is what the 15 year old was sending out
on the net - YOU CAN USE IT TOO - just follow the simple instructions].

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
BE FINANCIALLY FREE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR!!! Before
you say "Bull", please read the following. This is the letter you
have been hearing about on the news lately. Due to the popularity of
this letter on the Internet, a national weekly news program recently
devoted an entire show to the investigation of this program described
below, to see if it really can make people money. The show also
investigated whether or not the program was legal.  Their findings
proved once and for all that there are "absolutely NO Laws prohibiting
the participation in the program and if people can follow the simple
instructions, they are bound to make some megabucks with only $25
out of pocket cost".


DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY &
RESPECT THIS PROGRAM HAS ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY
WORKING BETTER THAN EVER.


Note*  follow the directons below,  I had best results the second
time when i hired a bulk email service in addition to following the
reports instructions.

In order for all of us to be successful, many, many emails must be
sent so that the returns are many. I have been extremely successful
using the following company. They send out the offers, and all
I do is accept money for reports, then I send back to the people as
soon as possible.


This is what one had to say: "Thanks to this profitable
opportunity. I was approached many times before but each
time I passed on it. I am so glad I finally joined just to
see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort
and money required. To my astonishment, I received total
$610,470.00 in 21 weeks, with money still coming in".

Pam Hedland, Fort Lee, New Jersey.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Here is another testimonial: "This program has been around
for a long time but I never believed in it. But one day when
I received this again in the mail I decided to gamble my $25
on it. I followed the simple instructions and walaa ..... 3
weeks later the money started to come in. First month I
only made $240.00 but the next 2 months after that I made a
total of $290,000.00. So far, in the past 8 months by re-
entering the program, I have made over $710,000.00 and I am
playing it again. The key to success in this program is to
follow the simple steps and NOT change anything."
More testimonials later but first,


=

=For each report, send $5 CASH, THE NAME & NUMBER OF THE
REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING and YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the
person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report.
MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE
TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail problems.

=You will need all 5 reports so that you can save them on your computer.
Within a few days you will  receive, vie e-mail, each of the 5 reports from
these 5 different individuals. Save them on your computer so they will be
accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from
you. Also make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case
something happens to your computer.


IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are
listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in any way other
than what is instructed below in step "1 through 6" or you will loose out
on majority of your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you
will also see how it does not work if you change it. Remember, this method
has been tested, and if you alter, it will NOT work!!! People have tried to
put their friends/relatives names on all five thinking they could get all the
money. But it does not work this way. Believe us, we all have tried to
be greedy and then nothing happened. So Do Not try to change anything
other than what is instructed. Because if you do, it will not work for you.
Remember, honesty reaps the reward!!!


1.... After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this
advertisement and REMOVE the name & address of the person in
REPORT # 5. This person has made it through the cycle and is
no doubt counting their fortune.
2.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 4 down TO REPORT #5.
3.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO REPORT #4.
4.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO REPORT #3.
5.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO REPORT #2
6.... Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1 Position.


PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address ACCURATELY!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


**** Take this entire letter, with the modified list of
names, and save it on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER
CHANGES. Save this on a disk as well just in case if you
loose any data. To assist you with marketing your business
on the internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide you
with invaluable marketing information which includes how to
send bulk e-mails legally, where to find thousands of free
classified ads and much more. There are 2 Primary methods to
get this venture going:


METHOD #1: BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it
goes, and we will assume You and those involved send out
only 5,000e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing
receive only a 0.2% response (the response could be much
better but lets just say it is only 0.2%. Also many people
will send out hundreds of thousands e-mails instead of only
5,000 each). Continuing with this example, you send out only
5,000 e-mails.


With a 0.2% response, that is only 10 orders for report # 1.
Those 10 people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each
for a total of 50,000. Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2%
responded with orders. That equals 100 people responded and
ordered Report # 2.

Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of
500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 1000 orders
for Report #3.

Those 1000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of
5 million e-mails sent out. The 0.2% response to that is
10,000 orders for Report #4.

Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total
of 50,000,000 (50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to
that is 100,000 orders for Report #5. THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS
TIMES $5 EACH=$500,000.00 (half million).
Your total income in this example is: 1..... $50 +2.....
$500 + 3.....$5,000 + 4..... $50,000 + 5.....
$500,000........Grand Total=$555,550.00


NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE OUT THE
WORST POSSIBLE RESPONSES AND NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT,
YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF MONEY!


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING
OUT OF 5,000 YOU MAILED TO. Dare to think for a moment what
would happen if everyone or half or even one 4th of those
people mailed 100,000e-mails each or more? There are over
150 million people on the Internet worldwide and counting.
Believe me, many people will do just that, and more!


METHOD #2: BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Advertising on the net is very very inexpensive and there
are hundreds of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of
free ads on the Internet will easily get a larger response.


We strongly suggest you start with Method #1 and add METHOD
#2 as you go along. For every $5 you receive, all you must
do is e-mail them the Report they ordered. That's it. Always
provide same day service on all orders. This will guarantee
that the e-mail they send out with your name and address on
it, will be prompt because they can not advertise until they
receive the report.


=ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. Notes: Always
send $5 cash (U.S. CURRENCY) for each Report. Checks NOT
accepted. Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in
at least 2 sheets of paper or aluminum foil. On one of those
sheets of paper, Write the NUMBER & the NAME of the Report
you are ordering, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS and your name and
postal address.


PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
REPORT #1: The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Net

Order Report #1 from:

GM Boland
353 Jonestown Rd. Suite 125
Winston Salem,  NC 27104
__________________________________________________________

REPORT #2: The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk e-mail on the Net

Order Report #2 from:

R. Chernick
PO Box 771661
C.S. Florida   33077
__________________________________________________________

REPORT #3: Secret to Multilevel marketing on the Net

Order Report #3 from:

M. Eiseman
PO Box 451971
Sunrise, Florida  33345-1971
__________________________________________________________

REPORT #4: How to become a millionaire utilizing MLM & the Net

Order Report #4 from:

L.Samon
PO BOX 31
Castletown
Isle of Man
IM 99 5XP
____________________________________________________

REPORT #5: How to send out 0ne Million emails for free

Order Report #5 From:

D. Lyons
Box 506
1027 Davie Street
Vancouver, BC  Canada
V6E 4L2

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success:

=within 2 weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do. =After you have received 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that
you should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT #2. If you
did not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you
do.

=YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for
you, and the cash will continue to roll in! THIS IS
IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every time your name is moved down on
the list, you are placed in front of a Different report.
You can KEEP TRACK of your PROGRESS by watching which report
people are ordering from you. IF YOU WANT TO GENERATE MORE
INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF E-MAILS AND START THE WHOLE
PROCESS AGAIN. There is NO LIMIT to the income you can
generate from this business!!!

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: You
have just received information that can give you financial
freedom for the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A
LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT. You can make more money in the next
few weeks and months than you have ever imagined. Follow the
program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do Not change it in any way.
It works exceedingly well as it is now.

Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report after you
have put your name and address in Report#1 and moved others
to #2 thru #5 as instructed above. One of the people you
send this to may send out 100,000 or more e-mails and your
name will be on every one of them. Remember though, the
more you send out the more potential customers you will
reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas,
information, materials and opportunity to become financially
independent. IT IS UP TO YOU NOW!

="My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago. I
am an accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make
pretty good money. When I received this program I grumbled
to Jody about receiving "junk mail". I made fun of the whole
thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and
percentages involved. I "knew" it wouldn't work. Jody
totally ignored my supposed intelligence and few days later
she jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her,
and was ready to lay the old "I told you so" on her when the
thing didn't work. Well, the laugh was on me! Within 3 weeks
she had received 50 responses. Within the next 45 days she
had received total $ 147,200.00....all cash! I was shocked.
I have joined Jody in her "hobby".

Mitchell Wolf, Chicago, Illinois

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to
make up my mind to participate in this plan. But
conservative that I am, I decided that the initial
investment was so little that there was just no way that I
wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money back".
"I was surprised when I found my medium size post office box
crammed with orders. I made $319,210.00 in the first 12
weeks. The nice thing about this deal is that it does not
matter where people live. There simply isn't a better
investment with a faster return and so big".

Dan Sondstrom, Alberta, Canada

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later
I wondered if I should have given it a try. Of course, I had
no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait
until I was e-mailed again by someone else......11 months
passed then it luckily came again...... I did not delete
this one! I made more than $490,000 on my first try and all
the money came within 22 weeks".

Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
If you have any questions of the legality of this program,
contact the Office of Associate Director for Marketing
Practices, Federal Trade Commission, Bureau of Consumer
Protection, Washington,D.C.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This email was sent to you via Saf-E Mail Systems.  Your email address was automatically inserted into the To and From addresses to eliminate undeliverables which waste bandwidth and cause internet congestion. Your email or webserver IS NOT being used for the sending of this mail. No-one else is receiving emails from your address. You may utilize the removal link below if you do not wish to receive this mailing.

http://202.105.49.100/remove.html

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 01:18:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09413
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 01:18:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE3E20@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 7:17:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13650235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 07:23:33 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NBDXr09347 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 07:13:33 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6NBDWUh023559 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 07:13:32 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207230713010.28503-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 07:13:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <63.ede2281.2a6e2da6@aol.com>

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>What do you mean blocked? Are you looking outside of Sears?
>
>
>>>
>
>Yes, I've tried at other places.

So did Sears block it? How?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 02:05:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA09476
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 02:05:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001553F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 8:11:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13652400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 08:11:12 -0400
Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NCB1r17111 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 08:11:01 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.4a.ec7d90b (4446) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002
          08:10:56 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <4a.ec7d90b.2a6ea1d0@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 08:10:56 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Meeber Patrol
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/23/2002 6:23:47 AM Central Daylight Time,
dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes:

<<
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>What do you mean blocked? Are you looking outside of Sears?
>
>
>>>
>
>Yes, I've tried at other places.

So did Sears block it? How?


>>

No, not Sears, but I never could get another job.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 03:35:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11157
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 03:35:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE4848@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 9:35:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13657712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 09:40:55 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NDesr01044 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:40:54 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-153.panax.com
          [63.163.41.153]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6NDesn07627 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002
          09:40:54 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <F176LiC1h1jYhAOylhg000042a6@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020722210633.00b65688@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020723093837.00a05050@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:40:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3CB79C.E1C938F8@maynor.net>

>What, btw, is Acadiafest?  Did Rashmi make the annual announcement while
>I was on nomail?        -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Yes, Rashmi announced.  And we already have two definite participants,
Betty and Larry, and these likely participants:

Love Judith and her Paul
Adam
Paul Barfoot
Marie
Lisa
Sandra
Rashmi
Emily
Natalie
Bookrat
Heide and Alec

I include you, Natalie, because I assume, being a retired lady of means
with friends in the area, you will surely participate.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 03:36:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11164
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 03:36:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00155C34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 9:42:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13657790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 09:42:09 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NDg9r01294 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:42:09 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT87N>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:42:08 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT87M; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:42:02 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020718102539.02bb7dd0@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020717211610.00b7f0d0@mail.panax.com>
            <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEJIGAAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020716100016.00bf3b80@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020722095944.03168030@victoria.nb.no>
            <3D3C15DE.3060904@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020723153750.00bc05e0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:41:53 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      For the Homeric oriented
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <005c01c2318c$ebb9ccc0$360332d1@0018079268>

I am still keying in my grandmother's diary from 1932 and found the
following statement from a visit to Mycenae:

"E. [my grandfather] saw Agamemnon who recognized him at once"

The boring explanation is that the family who kept the hotel/restaurant
"Menelaus' Belle Helene" until a few years ago had started to use names
suitable for the place. The one in charge was Orestes and Agamemnon was his
brother (sic).

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 05:19:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11236
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 05:19:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00155EB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:22:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13659720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 10:22:40 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.9.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6)
          with ESMTP id g6NEMdr07009 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 10:22:39 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          23 Jul 2002 07:21:13 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 14:21:13 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2002 14:21:13.0457 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[33078E10:01C23254]
Message-ID:  <F41l26CQosZ1HimPyia0001904f@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:21:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      wanted: former wordsler
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Anyone know whereabouts of John Gubert?

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 05:30:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11251
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 05:30:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE5464@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:30:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13666698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 11:35:58 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NFZwr24046 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:35:58 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws73-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.73]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6NFZt725832
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:35:56 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F176LiC1h1jYhAOylhg000042a6@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020722210633.00b65688@mail.panax.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020723093837.00a05050@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3D77DA.920ADFB5@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:35:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> I include you, Natalie, because I assume, being a retired lady of means
> with friends in the area, you will surely participate.

Indeed.  I was one of the main fans of a Maine fest.  I haven't made
that drive since -- can't remember when -- maybe Torondezvous (when I
did the big square of here to Detroit to Toronto to Quebec to Maine to
NYC to Hollerfest in Raleigh and back).  I love the drive from here to
Maine, at least after the first five or six hours.  I may have to go on
and get a tape- or cd-player for my cute little Echo.  It's pretty easy
to keep getting NPR stations wherever you drive, of course, but I do
love playing stuff like mountain music in the mountains.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 05:31:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11259
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 05:31:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE5471@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:31:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13666754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 11:37:19 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NFbIr24310 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:37:18 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc57 ([204.127.198.46]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020723153713.VRNW26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:37:13 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc57; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:37:12 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020723153713.VRNW26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:37:12 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

What do you consider Mountain Music?

lisa
> bonniev wrote:
>
> > I include you, Natalie, because I assume, being a retired lady of means
> > with friends in the area, you will surely participate.
>
> Indeed.  I was one of the main fans of a Maine fest.  I haven't made
> that drive since -- can't remember when -- maybe Torondezvous (when I
> did the big square of here to Detroit to Toronto to Quebec to Maine to
> NYC to Hollerfest in Raleigh and back).  I love the drive from here to
> Maine, at least after the first five or six hours.  I may have to go on
> and get a tape- or cd-player for my cute little Echo.  It's pretty easy
> to keep getting NPR stations wherever you drive, of course, but I do
> love playing stuff like mountain music in the mountains.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 05:32:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11263
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 05:32:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE5478@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:31:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13666770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 11:37:29 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NFbTr24341 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:37:29 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws73-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.73]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6NFbR726367
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:37:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F41l26CQosZ1HimPyia0001904f@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3D7836.DDDD2C90@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:37:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: wanted: former wordsler
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Anne Toal wrote:
>
> Anyone know whereabouts of John Gubert?

Last I heard from him, he was still in NO, still using a Xavier address,
but that was several years ago.  In cleaning out my office, I found his
packet of GoatRoast material sitting in its priority mail envelope.  He
had been planning on coming but then canceled shortly before I mailed
the stuff.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 05:34:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11267
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 05:34:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE5495@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:33:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13666889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 11:39:44 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NFdir24887 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:39:44 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws73-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.73]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6NFdf727090
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:39:41 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F41l26CQosZ1HimPyia0001904f@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3D78BC.D7CA7278@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:39:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: wanted: former wordsler
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Anne Toal wrote:
>
> Anyone know whereabouts of John Gubert?

http://www.travelswithtigger.com/fanciers/cattery.html

Jump to Muhibbi.  (Or just do a page search for gubert.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 05:37:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11278
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 05:37:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE54CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:36:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13667142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 11:42:28 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NFgSr25848 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:42:28 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws73-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.73]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6NFgP728235
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:42:26 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020723153713.VRNW26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3D7961.5E0F8751@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:42:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lisa Alfieri wrote:
>
> What do you consider Mountain Music?

The cd's I bought at the museum in Knoxville a couple of years ago and
played regularly when traveling after that, including once into the cell
phone for Bradykins to hear, while I was in a parking lot in western
NC.  Can't remember the names -- both had Smoky Mountain as part of the
name of the cd.  Will look later.  Have gotta continue getting ready for
tonight's dinner guests now.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 05:38:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11282
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 05:38:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001567F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:43:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13667230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 11:43:45 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NFhjr26187 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:43:45 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws73-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.73]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6NFhh728734
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:43:43 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3D79AE.88BB64DD@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:43:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Uh Oh
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<jgubert@mail.xula.edu>
    (reason: 550 Invalid recipient <jgubert@mail.xula.edu>)

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to mail.xula.edu.:
>>> RCPT To:<jgubert@mail.xula.edu>
<<< 550 Invalid recipient <jgubert@mail.xula.edu>
550 5.1.1 <jgubert@mail.xula.edu>... User unknown

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 07:30:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11446
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 07:30:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE61B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:29:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13676520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 13:35:32 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f114.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.114]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NHZVf18548 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:35:31 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          23 Jul 2002 10:35:26 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          23 Jul 2002 17:35:25 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2002 17:35:26.0403 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[54BA0130:01C2326F]
Message-ID:  <F1140U4XldONFr6fRUt00019d41@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:35:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
>to keep getting NPR stations wherever you drive, of course, but I do
>love playing stuff like mountain music in the mountains.

When passing by Philly, play 88.5 WXPN (University of Pennsylvania). And,
when near NYC, play 90.7 WFUV (Fordham University).

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 07:31:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11450
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 07:31:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE61CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:30:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13676580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 13:36:35 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f107.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.107]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NHaZf18700 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:36:35 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          23 Jul 2002 10:36:29 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          23 Jul 2002 17:36:29 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2002 17:36:29.0858 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[7A8C7820:01C2326F]
Message-ID:  <F107bJXncnm5c4GnO9l00006c46@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:36:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I am indeed a likely participant. I don't know if I can convince *uc* this
is a good idea, though.

Marie


>From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: Acadiafest
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:40:47 -0400
>
>>What, btw, is Acadiafest?  Did Rashmi make the annual announcement while
>>I was on nomail?        -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
>Yes, Rashmi announced.  And we already have two definite participants,
>Betty and Larry, and these likely participants:
>
>Love Judith and her Paul
>Adam
>Paul Barfoot
>Marie
>Lisa
>Sandra
>Rashmi
>Emily
>Natalie
>Bookrat
>Heide and Alec
>
>I include you, Natalie, because I assume, being a retired lady of means
>with friends in the area, you will surely participate.
>
>
>    --bonniev




Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 07:39:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11454
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 07:39:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE6277@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:38:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13677014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 13:44:19 -0400
Received: from mail.dispatches.realcities.com (pat550a.sjc1.loudcloud.com
          [66.54.3.79]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6NHiIf20785 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002
          13:44:18 -0400
Received: from m1709sjc1.cust.loudcloud.com (pip6.lb550a.sjc1.loudcloud.com) by
          mail.dispatches.realcities.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP
          id <0.00222B97@mail.dispatches.realcities.com>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002
          18:44:12 +0100
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <6793365.1027446252781.JavaMail.postmaster@knightridder.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:44:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU
Subject:      Chaim Potok, chronicler of American Jewish life, dies at 73
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

This Story has been sent to you by : plotkina@isc.upenn.edu<pre>

Chaim Potok, chronicler of American Jewish life, dies at 73
Chaim Potok, the distinguished author and scholar who opened up Orthodox and Hasidic life in America to readers around the world in such best-selling novels as <i>The Chosen</i> (1967), <i>The Promise</i> (1969) and <i>My Name Is Asher Lev</i> (1972), died today at his home in Merion. He was 73.
The full article will be available on the Web for a limited time:
<a href="http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/3718856.htm">http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/3718856.htm</a>

(c) 2001 inquirer and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved.

</pre><br>
<p>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 07:42:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11461
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 07:42:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001574C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:47:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13676627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 13:47:21 -0400
Received: from mailer3.bulk.scd.yahoo.com (mailer3.bulk.scd.yahoo.com
          [66.218.69.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id
          g6NHbKf18874 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002
          13:37:21 -0400
Errors-To: refertofriend-error@reply.yahoo.com
Message-ID:  <200207231737.g6NHbKf18874@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:37:21 PDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Yahoo! News <refertofriend@reply.yahoo.com>
Subject:      Yahoo! News Story - 'The Chosen' Author Potok Dead at 73
Comments: cc: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Alec D. Plotkin (plotkina@isc.upenn.edu) has sent you a news article
------------------------------------------------------------
Personal message:

A great writer gone!

'The Chosen' Author Potok Dead at 73
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020723/ap_on_en_ot/obit_potok_4

============================================================
Yahoo! News http://dailynews.yahoo.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 08:19:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11539
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 08:19:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE65EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:19:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13679434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 14:24:49 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NIOnA26780 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:24:49 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-53.panax.com
          [65.114.190.53]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6NIOnn30146 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002
          14:24:49 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020723142402.00a13090@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:24:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F107bJXncnm5c4GnO9l00006c46@hotmail.com>

>I am indeed a likely participant. I don't know if I can convince *uc* this
>is a good idea, though.       --Marie

Won't he want to see the place where you spent one of the summers of your
youth??


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 08:22:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11550
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 08:22:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001578F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:28:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13679742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 14:28:08 -0400
Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com (imo-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.165]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NIS7A27407 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:28:08 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1b1.1049fec (22683) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul
          2002 14:27:57 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m03.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.131]) by
          air-in04.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ44-0723142757;
          Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:27:57 2000
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <262E8202.7DB103FB.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:27:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Chaim Potok, chronicler of American Jewish life, dies at 73
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU wrote:

>This Story has been sent to you by : plotkina@isc.upenn.edu
>
> Chaim Potok, chronicler of American Jewish life, dies at 73 Chaim Potok, the distinguished author and scholar who opened up Orthodox and Hasidic life in America to readers around the world in such best-selling novels as The Chosen (1967), The Promise (1969) and My Name Is Asher Lev (1972), died today at his home in Merion. He was 73. The full article will be available on the Web for a limited time: http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/3718856.htm(c) 2001 inquirer and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved.
>
>This is sad news, though I had actually thought he was a good bit older.

jbh
>
>
>


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 08:28:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11562
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 08:28:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00157993@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:33:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13680137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 14:33:50 -0400
Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NIXoA28287 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:33:50 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1a.46ed83e (16225) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul
          2002 14:33:34 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m06.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.134]) by
          air-in02.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ21-0723143333;
          Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:33:33 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <71A5B98A.5CB7D8E3.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:33:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: a bon mot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET> wrote:

>> Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:
>>
>> >Please god, let this be apocryphal.
>> I have the sneaking suspicion it's not.
>
>I first heard it as a joke the French are enjoying (and that somebody
>French made up)
>
>Ann
>
Knowing the French pretty well, this is likely.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 08:32:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11578
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 08:32:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE6723@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:31:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13680340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 14:37:37 -0400
Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NIbbY28765 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:37:37 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.10b.36525a6 (16226) for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul
          2002 14:37:24 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m11.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.139]) by
          air-in02.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ22-0723143723;
          Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:37:23 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <16113C81.63DC860E.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:37:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Bradley Dale Sighting
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I saw the Brevet Brigadier yesterday.  He was alive and well.

More good news: Rural Sociology has a new computer that finally connects directly to the internet.  It's so new it's incredible.  A Dell (most of the UK computers are Dell).  All shiny and black.

This is a good thing this week, because the med center library computer system is partially down for upgrades and it's crowded over there.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 08:33:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11582
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 08:33:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00157A0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:38:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13680460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 14:38:55 -0400
Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NIcsY28926 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:38:55 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.13a.2ebbdab (16228) for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul
          2002 14:38:51 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m05.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.133]) by
          air-in02.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ24-0723143851;
          Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:38:51 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <66C8D73D.645E501A.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:38:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Giant Sunflower
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I went over to do some work for Major Ingram this morning in his garden and he has a GIANT sunflower.  Two weeks ago when I was there it was about five feet tall, now it's an easy ten feet.  Wow.

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 08:39:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11590
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 08:39:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE67E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:39:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13680969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 14:44:59 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NIixY30136 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:44:59 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws63-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.63]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6NIhV720498
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:43:31 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F1140U4XldONFr6fRUt00019d41@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3DA3D2.9677D04D@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:43:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

> When passing by Philly, play 88.5 WXPN (University of Pennsylvania). And,
> when near NYC, play 90.7 WFUV (Fordham University).

I don't think I pass within clear radio distance of Philly.  Possibly
NYC, though, depending on when I decide to turn right.

It just occurred to me that it's been even longer ago than Torondezvous
that I made the pretty drive, unless I've driven up that way sometime
since then, and I don't think I have.  On the Torondezvous trip I came
down I-95 because I needed to get to Raleigh for Hollerfest.  That's not
a very nice drive.  I much prefer whatever interstate it is that I
normally take -- the one that goes through Roanoke.  It's northern end
is Binghamton, I think.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 08:45:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11610
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 08:45:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE6877@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:45:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13680653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 14:50:49 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NIenY29384 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:40:49 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6NIemUh032138 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:40:48 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207231440170.6074-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:40:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Giant Sunflower
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <66C8D73D.645E501A.0099AB05@netscape.net>

On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, jbh wrote:

>I went over to do some work for Major Ingram this morning in his garden
and he has a GIANT sunflower.  Two weeks ago when I was there it was
about five feet tall, now it's an easy ten feet.  Wow.

I love those - they are absolutely gorgeous, I think.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 08:53:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11621
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 08:53:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE692E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:52:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13681988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 14:58:21 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6NIwKY32331 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002
          14:58:20 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-204-241.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.204.241]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6NIwK4199646 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul
          2002 14:58:20 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEECPFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:57:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Chaim Potok, chronicler of American Jewish life, dies at 73
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <262E8202.7DB103FB.0099AB05@netscape.net>

I always loved THE CHOSEN. A great lesson there.

Sandra


> > Chaim Potok, chronicler of American Jewish life, dies at 73
> Chaim Potok, the distinguished author and scholar who opened up
> Orthodox and Hasidic life in America to readers around the world
> in such best-selling novels as The Chosen (1967), The Promise
> (1969) and My Name Is Asher Lev (1972), died today at his home in
> Merion. He was 73. The full article will be available on the Web
> for a limited time:
> http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/3718856.htm(c) 2001 inquirer
> and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved.
> >
> >This is sad news, though I had actually thought he was a good bit older.
>
> jbh
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift
> ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with
> Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/
>
> Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at
> http://webmail.netscape.com/
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 09:17:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11664
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 09:17:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE6BCA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:16:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13684070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 15:22:16 -0400
Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NJMGY04154 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:22:16 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.1d.47c9caf (22681) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul
          2002 15:22:03 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m14.webmail.aol.com [64.12.180.130]) by
          air-in04.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ42-0723152203;
          Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:22:03 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <206B519F.4762049D.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:21:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Giant Sunflower
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU> wrote:


>I love those - they are absolutely gorgeous, I think.
>
Indeed.  I've planted some, both at my apartment (I have a patch of ground) and at the farm.  They are medium sized, though, six to eight feet.  Some are called "Tithonia" and purportedly about four or five feet.  They are just beginning to form flower heads.

Side question.  We've got some plants called "hardy hibiscus".  They are.  Perennials, large red flowers, about six to eight feel tall.  My dad says they are called "swamp hibiscus" around Pensacola.  I can't track them down on the internet, though.  Anyone know any other names?

jbh


__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 09:20:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11668
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 09:20:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE6C1A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:19:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13684298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 15:25:32 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f209.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.209]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NJPWY04675 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:25:32 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          23 Jul 2002 12:25:26 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          23 Jul 2002 19:25:26 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2002 19:25:26.0758 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[B2D84060:01C2327E]
Message-ID:  <F209zxvgGqBi3Gb4B1r00005af4@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:25:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
>I don't think I pass within clear radio distance of Philly.  Possibly
>NYC, though, depending on when I decide to turn right.

If you go over the Tappan Zee, you'll be in range of FUV. Otherwise, likely
not, assuming you don't plan to cross the Hudson at the GW. FUV is in a
battle over the right to build a taller tower with the Botanical Gardens in
the Bronx.

How do you normally drive to New England?

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 09:22:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11675
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 09:22:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE6C62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:21:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13684540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 15:27:42 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f305.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.180]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NJRfY05286 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:27:41 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          23 Jul 2002 12:27:36 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          23 Jul 2002 19:27:36 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2002 19:27:36.0313 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[0010C690:01C2327F]
Message-ID:  <F305nVeTAw3yXIRw1g10001942a@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:27:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
>>I am indeed a likely participant. I don't know if I can convince *uc* this
>>is a good idea, though.       --Marie
>
>Won't he want to see the place where you spent one of the summers of your
>youth??

Oh, he's been to Bar Harbor several times.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 09:45:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11708
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 09:45:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE6E9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:44:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13686128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 15:50:34 -0400
Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NJoXY08414 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:50:33 -0400
Received: from hannum46@netscape.net by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.)
          id c.10b.3655627 (16225) for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul
          2002 15:50:28 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from  netscape.net (mow-m30.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.7]) by
          air-in02.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILININ21-0723155028;
          Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:50:28 -0400
X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <51FCB508.3465AE52.0099AB05@netscape.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:50:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: jbh <hannum46@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject:      Found it
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The hardy hibiscus is in fact a hibiscus, one of two varieties I located on the National Gardening Association site: either a Swamp Rose Mallow or a Scarlet Rose Mallow.  The USDA site didn't have it, but I'll try now that I know the latin name.

jbh




__________________________________________________________________
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 10:48:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11811
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 10:48:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE768F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:47:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13692071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 16:53:16 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NKrGi20357 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:53:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 603A09594; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 13:53:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020723205307.603A09594@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:53:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: For the Homeric oriented
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020723153750.00bc05e0@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 23, 2002  3:41:53 pm"

Espen Ore said:
> I am still keying in my grandmother's diary from 1932 and found the
> following statement from a visit to Mycenae:

Are we going to be able to read the whole thing on line?

> "E. [my grandfather] saw Agamemnon who recognized him at once"

:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 11:08:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11865
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 11:08:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE7A25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:07:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13694801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 17:13:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NLDHi24007 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:13:17 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E766F9150; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 14:13:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020723211315.E766F9150@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:13:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      It's hot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The phone rang early this morning--I had been turning the alarm off
for some time, so I knew it was time to get up. It was *er*, promising
me real maple syrup!

I went outside and started bundling tree branches for them to take
tomorrow morning. (We had to do this before we got the maple syrup.) I
had been working alone for about an hour when he showed up, and we
continued to work really hard. After another hour or so, I started
feeling really nauseated and dizzy, so I warned *er* that I would have
to stop soon, and then I bent over to pick something up and nearly
fell over. I lay down on the grass for a while, then I told him I was
going inside, and I got as far as the boat. I leaned on it for a
minute, and he came and asked me if I wanted ice water down my back
and I said yes, but frankly, even if one says yes, one doesn't really
want ice water down one's back...

But that enabled me to go inside and take a shower, and then I started
feeling better. I can't remember another time that I have felt so awful
from the heat. It's in the low 90's--it's only 94, right now, but I'm
sure the heat index is over 100.

After a while, I made the french toast--with vanilla and Grand Marnier
in the milk. After it was done, we sprinkled cinnamon on it, dripped a
little syrup, and then spooned apple-apricot sauce over it. The last
touch was chopped walnuts. On the first piece, I moaned every time I
took a bite, which amused *er* no end. It was one of the most
satisfying things I've ever eaten.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 11:08:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11872
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 11:08:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE7A3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:08:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13694835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 17:14:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NLE7i24073 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:14:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 770AF9150; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 14:14:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020723211406.770AF9150@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:14:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: New words for the day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEOAFEAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 20, 2002  1:21:51 pm"

S Hess said:
> Ok...just looked these up. Hopefully, for the last time. Some words just
> never stick:
>
> *Perfervid
> *Tautological
> *Frippery
>
> All useful words :)

Did you read them all at once or in different things?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 11:09:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11876
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 11:09:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE7A53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:09:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13694899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 17:15:02 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NLF2i24189 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:15:02 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-89.panax.com
          [65.114.190.89]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6NLF1n29287 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002
          17:15:02 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020723171000.00b269d8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:15:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F209zxvgGqBi3Gb4B1r00005af4@hotmail.com>

At 03:25 PM 7/23/2002 -0400, marie wrote:
 > [asked of Natalie] How do you normally drive to New England?

Given her earlier remark about going through Roanoke (and mentioning
Binghamton), she must drive I-81. That would leave her (by most routes)
well north of NYC.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 11:13:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11880
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 11:13:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE7AB9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:12:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13695247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 17:18:22 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6NLIMi24923 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002
          17:18:22 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-204-241.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.204.241]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6NLIL4238866 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul
          2002 17:18:21 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEDDFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:17:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: New words for the day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020723211406.770AF9150@yellow.rahul.net>

All from a New Yorker. Perfervid is such a pervy word....I think that was
from a review of Robin Williams's NY show.

Perfervid is a tamer word than I expected. Frippery seems just exactly like
what it is. And Tautological...well, it is what it is.

Sandra


> S Hess said:
> > Ok...just looked these up. Hopefully, for the last time. Some words just
> > never stick:
> >
> > *Perfervid
> > *Tautological
> > *Frippery
> >
> > All useful words :)
>
> Did you read them all at once or in different things?
>
> Karen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 11:15:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11888
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 11:14:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE7AD8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:14:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13695371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 17:20:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NLKBi25284 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:20:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E314193A4; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 14:20:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020723212009.E314193A4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:20:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: New words for the day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEDDFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 23, 2002  2:17:24 pm"

S Hess said:
> All from a New Yorker. Perfervid is such a pervy word....I think that was
> from a review of Robin Williams's NY show.

Yes, I think he gets that word a lot.:) I didn't realize that he's
younger than I am (by a year). He looks older.

> Perfervid is a tamer word than I expected. Frippery seems just exactly like
> what it is. And Tautological...well, it is what it is.

LOL. Yes.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 11:21:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11897
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 11:21:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE7B7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:20:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13695938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 17:26:26 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NLQQi26480 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:26:26 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-89.panax.com
          [65.114.190.89]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6NLQPn31348 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002
          17:26:25 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEDDFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020723172506.00b2d7a8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:26:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: New words for the day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020723212009.E314193A4@yellow.rahul.net>

At 02:20 PM 7/23/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
> > Perfervid is a tamer word than I expected. Frippery seems just exactly like
> > what it is. And Tautological...well, it is what it is.
>
>LOL. Yes.

also, the phrase "perfervid tautological frippery" sounds like it could
have come from the mouth of William F. Buckley.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 11:22:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11904
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 11:22:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00158D5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:27:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13696014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 17:27:31 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6NLRVi26652 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002
          17:27:31 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-204-241.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.204.241]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6NLRU423792 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002
          17:27:30 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEDEFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:26:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: New words for the day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020723212009.E314193A4@yellow.rahul.net>

> S Hess said:
> > All from a New Yorker. Perfervid is such a pervy word....I
> think that was
> > from a review of Robin Williams's NY show.
>
> Yes, I think he gets that word a lot.:) I didn't realize that he's
> younger than I am (by a year). He looks older.
>
> Karen

I caught the Robin Williams show on HBO. What a nice, tight show...he's
aging well. I don't mean physically (that too), I mean his focus, strategy
and selection of content. A job well done!

I finished watching MONSTER'S BALL today. Wow. Tough movie to watch....I
find it tough to like Billy Bob. I don't trust him on or off camera. The
movie was excellent but that first half...I kept wondering why I invited
that into my house. It was making my skin crawl. I still don't understand
the title. Did I miss something?

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 11:25:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11915
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 11:25:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (listserv.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE7BBD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:24:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13696125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 17:30:34 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6NLUYi26905 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002
          17:30:34 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-204-241.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.204.241]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6NLUY4232362 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul
          2002 17:30:34 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEDFFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:29:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: New words for the day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020723172506.00b2d7a8@mail.panax.com>

LOL....that it does. I can't believe he is as uptight as some may believe.
Something about the twinkle in his eye.

Sandra
>
> At 02:20 PM 7/23/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
> > > Perfervid is a tamer word than I expected. Frippery seems
> just exactly like
> > > what it is. And Tautological...well, it is what it is.
> >
> >LOL. Yes.
>
> also, the phrase "perfervid tautological frippery" sounds like it could
> have come from the mouth of William F. Buckley.
>
> cwv
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 12:47:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12034
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 12:47:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00159394@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:52:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13700356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 18:52:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NMqCi02758 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:52:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3D7B68CC9; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 15:52:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020723225212.3D7B68CC9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:52:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: New words for the day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEDFFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 23, 2002  2:29:36 pm"

S Hess said:
> LOL....that it does. I can't believe he is as uptight as some may believe.
> Something about the twinkle in his eye.

He spoke at my university, and I have to say that I do think he is way
too uptight. I'm sorta surprised he hasn't imploded, but I gather that
he sails, so maybe that's when he lets go.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 12:49:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12041
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 12:49:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE8049@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:48:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13700421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 18:54:24 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6NMsOi02923 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002
          18:54:24 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-204-241.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.204.241]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6NMsN4285678 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul
          2002 18:54:23 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEDHFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:53:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: New words for the day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020723225212.3D7B68CC9@yellow.rahul.net>

And he writes. I read a couple of his Blackford Oakes (?) novels many years
ago. I did enjoy them.

Sch.

>
> S Hess said:
> > LOL....that it does. I can't believe he is as uptight as some
> may believe.
> > Something about the twinkle in his eye.
>
> He spoke at my university, and I have to say that I do think he is way
> too uptight. I'm sorta surprised he hasn't imploded, but I gather that
> he sails, so maybe that's when he lets go.
>
> Karen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 13:41:48 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12120
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 13:41:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07461
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:45:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE824C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 19:40:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13701897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 19:46:05 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NNa4i06251 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 19:36:05 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DC17885 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:36:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6NNa4t56960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:36:04
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020723183604.B56846@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:36:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Citicorp's tasteless campaign
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I hate Citicorp's tasteless new Live Rich campaign--well it's
many months old, but--all this "if you say time is money you
are insulting time", "hey read the stock pages but don't forget
the comics", "remember when PE meant <some damn game>?"

Man it pisses me off.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 13:50:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12136
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 13:50:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE82AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 19:50:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13702417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 19:55:58 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NNtqi07862 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 19:55:57 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.17]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZQ7R302.5CG for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:54:39 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020723211315.E766F9150@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3DECE7.61B63A04@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:55:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: It's hot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

>After another hour or so, I started

> feeling really nauseated and dizzy, so I warned *er* that I would have
> to stop soon, and then I bent over to pick something up and nearly
> fell over. I lay down on the grass for a while, then I told him I was
> going inside, and I got as far as the boat. I leaned on it for a
> minute, and he came and asked me if I wanted ice water down my back
> and I said yes, but frankly, even if one says yes, one doesn't really
> want ice water down one's back...

    "Karen Kay, Mr. Heat Exhaustion.  Mr. Heat Exhaustion, may I present
Karen Kay."
    And no, you don't want ice water down your back, or anywhere else.  Do
pour cool water over your head, though.  Oh, and don't do it again.  This
is your once.

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 16:44:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12411
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 16:44:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE8969@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 22:43:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13707947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 22:49:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6O2nVi23103 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 22:49:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DCBF3964A; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 19:49:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724024930.DCBF3964A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 19:49:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: It's hot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3DECE7.61B63A04@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at
              "Jul 23, 2002  4:55:20 pm"

John Williams said:
>     "Karen Kay, Mr. Heat Exhaustion.  Mr. Heat Exhaustion, may I present
> Karen Kay."
>     And no, you don't want ice water down your back, or anywhere else.  Do
> pour cool water over your head, though.  Oh, and don't do it again.  This
> is your once.

I wasn't wearing a hat, but I was drinking water regularly. And
resting. I really was taken totally by surprise, so it will probably
happen again.:(

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 17:31:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12475
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 17:31:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE9089@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:31:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13713067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 23:37:01 -0400
Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6O3b1i27966 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:37:01 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.28.29fa0b82 (3850) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002
          23:36:58 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <28.29fa0b82.2a6f7ad9@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:36:57 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: New words for the day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/23/2002 4:30:54 PM Central Daylight Time,
Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM writes:

<<
LOL....that it does. I can't believe he is as uptight as some may believe.
Something about the twinkle in his eye.


>>

Oh, yes, he once printed a biography of himself that stated that he did
amazing things before he was even born, and it was thoroughly hilarious.
Anyone who could make fun of himself like that is definitely not uptight.
He was the only conservative I really liked during my socialist days.
(I wonder if there are any little red bookstores in Tulsa.)

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 17:44:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12498
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 17:44:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE9171@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:43:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13713783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 23:49:13 -0400
Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6O3nDi29017 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:49:13 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.ea.2b0aed06 (3850) for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002
          23:49:07 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  7bit
Message-ID:  <ea.2b0aed06.2a6f7db2@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:49:06 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Gone
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Leo McKern, Rumpole of the Bailey and Number Two in the Prisoner,
died at the age of 82.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 18:03:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12535
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 18:03:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0015A7DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 0:08:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13716420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 00:07:53 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6O47ri31570 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 00:07:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B7EAA8C8B; Tue, 23
          Jul 2002 21:07:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724040752.B7EAA8C8B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:07:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Gone
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <ea.2b0aed06.2a6f7db2@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Jul 23,
              2002 11:49: 6 pm"

Evelyn Duncan said:
> Leo McKern, Rumpole of the Bailey and Number Two in the Prisoner,
> died at the age of 82.

Thank you. I heard part of this on the news and couldn't figure out
what they were talking about.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 20:59:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12955
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 20:59:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE9AFF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 2:59:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13721964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 03:04:52 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6O74pi13234 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 03:04:51 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT9ZH>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:04:50 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT9ZG; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:04:47 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020723153750.00bc05e0@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020724085959.00bfa958@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:04:43 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: For the Homeric oriented
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020723205307.603A09594@yellow.rahul.net>

13:53 23.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>Espen Ore said:
> > I am still keying in my grandmother's diary from 1932 and found the
> > following statement from a visit to Mycenae:
>
>Are we going to be able to read the whole thing on line?

That is my intention. Although I also think about a book: extracts from the
-32 and -54/55 diaries and parallell parts from the letters my grandfather
had published from the same trips, with an introduction and possibly some
short what-did-I-find-and-experience in the same places kind of additional
texts. But yes, I am transcribing the complete diaries (and later much of
my grandfather's writings) and encode them in XML (yes, Elaine, TEI P4 with
some small and documented modifications).

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 21:07:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA12998
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 21:07:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE9B23@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 3:06:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13722086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 03:12:03 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6O7Bxi13666 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 03:12:03 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6O7HsS10702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:17:54
          +0200
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020724091754.A10699@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:17:54 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      XML
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen, Elaine, other XML gurus now chopped liver,

Have you got a pointer to a page, or just a quicky summary of the
use of XML for messaging?

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 21:19:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA13026
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 21:18:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE9B65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 3:18:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13722324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 03:23:56 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6O7Nti14441 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 03:23:56 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT98T>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:23:55 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT98S; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:23:49 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020724092311.00bd5a68@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:23:46 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: XML
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020724091754.A10699@yoccoz.multinix.com>

09:17 24.07.2002 +0200 skrev steph:
>Espen, Elaine, other XML gurus now chopped liver,
>
>Have you got a pointer to a page, or just a quicky summary of the
>use of XML for messaging?

Now I lost any kind of guru-status: what do you mean by messaging?

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 21:24:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA13040
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 21:24:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0015B170@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 3:29:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13722488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 03:29:29 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6O7TTi15089 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 03:29:29 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020724072923.FVSJ1451.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 07:29:23 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020724001509.020a1370@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 00:25:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: XML
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020724091754.A10699@yoccoz.multinix.com>

steph writes,

>Have you got a pointer to a page, or just a quicky summary of the
>use of XML for messaging?

Not an XML guru, and I'll assume you mean messaging betwixt machines, and
not people (in increasing order of lightweightness):

SOAP <http://www.w3.org/TR/SOAP/>
XML-RPC <http://www.xmlrpc.com/>

XML-RPC vs. SOAP:
<http://weblog.masukomi.org/writings/xml-rpc_vs_soap.htm>

If you've got something more like syndication than real messaging, RSS is
also widely implemented, and very lightweight:
<http://backend.userland.com/rss092>.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 21:58:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA13100
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 21:58:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0015B28C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 4:03:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13723075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 04:03:22 -0400
Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6O83Mi17711 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 04:03:22 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.fb.2997124c (3990) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          04:03:18 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <fb.2997124c.2a6fb945@aol.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 04:03:17 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Gone
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/23/2002 11:08:57 PM Central Daylight Time,
karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:

<<
Thank you. I heard part of this on the news and couldn't figure out
what they were talking about.


>>

You're welcome.  I wish they still showed Rumpole on PBS; I would
love to see it again.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 22:08:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13116
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 22:08:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0015B2F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 4:13:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13723191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 04:13:46 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6O8Dji18371 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 04:13:45 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6O8JgT10810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:19:42
          +0200
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020724101941.A10779@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:19:41 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      XML
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Pete,

those links for SOAP etc., were about what I had in mind.

I wasn't getting general enough links because I was stuck with
the MOM term messing me up.  That w3.org link was hiding in my
google hits from "xml messaging".

Now, how do we restore Espen's guru status?

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 22:28:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13137
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 22:28:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0015B3A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 4:33:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13723416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 04:33:54 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6O8Xsi19584 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 04:33:54 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020724083348.MDRA26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:33:48 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020724011631.022f9300@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 01:30:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: XML
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020724101941.A10779@yoccoz.multinix.com>

steph writes,

>Now, how do we restore Espen's guru status?

Ask for help with a DTD. :)

Seriously, messaging ain't XML; it's just one pretty narrow application of it.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 22:32:51 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13149
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 22:32:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0015B3CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 4:37:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13723464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 04:37:46 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6O8bki19830 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 04:37:46 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT0BH>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:37:45 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT0BG; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:37:12 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020724103453.00bf9d58@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:37:08 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: XML
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020724101941.A10779@yoccoz.multinix.com>

10:19 24.07.2002 +0200 skrev steph:
>Pete,
>
>those links for SOAP etc., were about what I had in mind.
>
>I wasn't getting general enough links because I was stuck with
>the MOM term messing me up.  That w3.org link was hiding in my
>google hits from "xml messaging".
>
>Now, how do we restore Espen's guru status?

It is gone and probably never was there. "Nothing can increase, nothing can
decrease." (The Heart Sutra)

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 23:55:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA13246
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 17 Jun 1960 23:55:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE9EB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 5:54:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13725240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 06:00:24 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OA0Oi26140 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 06:00:24 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6OA6LF10963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:06:21
          +0200
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020724120621.A10956@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:06:21 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: XML
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

= It is gone and probably never was there. "Nothing can increase,
= nothing can decrease." (The Heart Sutra)

Has not the Blessed One heard of Entropy?

steph
pita

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 00:26:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13284
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 00:26:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EE9F1A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 6:25:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13725557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 06:31:31 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OAVVi27966 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 06:31:31 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RTT0G7>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:31:30 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RTT0G6; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:31:25 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020724122943.02d3c4c8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:31:21 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: XML
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020724120621.A10956@yoccoz.multinix.com>

12:06 24.07.2002 +0200 skrev steph:
>= It is gone and probably never was there. "Nothing can increase,
>= nothing can decrease." (The Heart Sutra)
>
>Has not the Blessed One heard of Entropy?

He probably had: "All compounded things are subject to vanish."
(Mahanibbana sutta, full text in translation at
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/canon/digha/dn16.html)

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 01:15:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13399
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 01:15:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEA001@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 7:14:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13725979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 07:20:10 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f205.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.205]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OBAAi11681 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 07:10:10 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          24 Jul 2002 04:10:04 -0700
Received: from 194.7.105.71 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 11:10:04 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [194.7.105.71]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jul 2002 11:10:04.0793 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A9960E90:01C23302]
Message-ID:  <F205FRaqbC8wSA1XvpF00000661@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:10:04 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie:

>What, btw, is Acadiafest?  Did Rashmi make the annual announcement while
>I was on nomail?

Yes. Did you catch my announcement of NamibiaFest2004? The long
lead time is for people to line up vacation time, travel money,
shots ...

-rashmi


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 01:26:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13410
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 01:26:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEA049@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 7:25:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13726231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 07:31:25 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OBVOi13407 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 07:31:24 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6OBbMS11182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:37:22
          +0200
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020724133721.A11179@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:37:21 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

-rashmi said:

= shots ...

Shots I can handle.  Just don't make me take any more malaria
prophylactics.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 01:29:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13417
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 01:29:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEA07B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 7:28:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13726113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 07:34:14 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f253.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.131]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OBOEi12912 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 07:24:14 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          24 Jul 2002 04:24:09 -0700
Received: from 194.7.105.71 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 11:24:08 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [194.7.105.71]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jul 2002 11:24:09.0172 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A0E01140:01C23304]
Message-ID:  <F253k4RA59w1PAylAQc00014108@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:24:08 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The huge TransEuropa Ferry gingerly making its way out between
the piers was called Oleander.

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 01:41:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13433
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 01:41:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEA15A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 7:40:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13727054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 07:46:41 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OBkfi15089 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 07:46:41 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6OBqcC11267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:52:38
          +0200
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020724135238.A11264@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:52:38 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      there's a picture of everything on the web
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://www.ferry-site.dk/pos-pic.htm

the ferry Oleander

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 02:03:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13475
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 02:03:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEA26A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 8:02:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13727794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 08:07:48 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OC7mi16954 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:07:48 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16789 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:07:44 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02
          08:07:46 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02 08:07:30 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <20020723212009.E314193A4@yellow.rahul.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3E603E.23485.11B6BE@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:07:26 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: New words for the day
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020723172506.00b2d7a8@mail.panax.com>

or Safire

BrP


>
> also, the phrase "perfervid tautological frippery" sounds like it could
> have come from the mouth of William F. Buckley.
>
> cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 02:45:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13524
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 02:45:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEA4C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 8:44:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13729613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 08:49:57 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OCnvi22554 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:49:57 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws87-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.87]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6OCmZ711697
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 07:48:36 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F209zxvgGqBi3Gb4B1r00005af4@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3EA222.8C77B81D@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 07:48:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie Ascher wrote:

> If you go over the Tappan Zee, you'll be in range of FUV. Otherwise, likely
> not, assuming you don't plan to cross the Hudson at the GW. FUV is in a
> battle over the right to build a taller tower with the Botanical Gardens in
> the Bronx.
>
> How do you normally drive to New England?

The Tappan Zee route is the one I've used on several occasions.  There
are several places to turn right from the interstate I go north on.
Which one I decide to turn on is often based on how tired I am of
Pennsylvania -- its horribly slow speed limits and notoriety for tickets
given for going 1 mph over its snail-space limits.  (Did I hear that
they've raised the speed limits?)

The interstate I take for most of the trip is the one that starts not
many miles east of Knoxville.  I go from here to Kville, then take I-40
east to where the pleasant interstate starts.  I spend one night
somewhere in Virginia -- Roanoke, Staunton, wherever.  Then I keep going
north and start cussing when I get into Pennsylvania.  One time I turned
right fairly early so that I could stop and visit Ken W. in Wayne, NJ.
I think Scranton is probably the ideal place to turn right, but that
means enduring more of PA.  Wherever I turn, I end up on I-95 north of
NYC.  I did come back one time all the way through NYC on I-95 and
turned west somewhere south of there.  That was the time a bunch of us
in Providence were discussing the "Cross-Bronx Parkway" or whatever I-95
is called in NYC, and some people were saying to avoid it at all costs
while others (or maybe just JimB) said it was fine.  I decided to make
the decision based on which lane I happened to be in when I reached the
place to turn right for the Tappan Zee.  Fate put me in a leftish lane
at that point, so I kept heading into the city -- and I found the
Cross-Bronx Whatever a perfectly normal and comfortable experience.
Nobody threw a tank onto my car from a bridge or whatever all those
things people had warned me about were.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 02:46:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13528
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 02:46:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEA4E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 8:45:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13729673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 08:51:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OCp9i22674 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:51:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws87-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.87]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6OCp6712536
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 07:51:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020723211315.E766F9150@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3EA2B9.AD71D2C6@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 07:51:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: It's hot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> But that enabled me to go inside and take a shower, and then I started
> feeling better. I can't remember another time that I have felt so awful
> from the heat. It's in the low 90's--it's only 94, right now, but I'm
> sure the heat index is over 100.

As I'm sure you realize, what you experienced was a classic case of heat
exhaustion, and it's a good thing you went inside since heat exhaustion
can lead to heat stroke, which is not something to mess with.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 02:47:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13532
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 02:47:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEA4F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 8:46:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13729700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 08:52:00 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OCq0i22771 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:52:00 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws87-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.87]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6OCpw712723
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 07:51:58 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020723171000.00b269d8@mail.panax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3EA2ED.A87F901C@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 07:51:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:

> Binghamton), she must drive I-81. That would leave her (by most routes)

Yes.  I-81 sounds familiar.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 02:49:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13540
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 02:49:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEA50D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 8:48:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13729755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 08:54:04 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OCs4i22904 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:54:04 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03814 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:54:03 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02
          08:54:04 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02 08:54:02 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3E6B2A.404.1E5384@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:54:02 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3EA2ED.A87F901C@maynor.net>

If you continued north on I-81 from Binghamton, you would be in
Syracuse in an hour.

BrP



> "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:
>
> > Binghamton), she must drive I-81. That would leave her (by most routes)
>
> Yes.  I-81 sounds familiar.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 02:50:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13548
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 02:50:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEA527@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 8:50:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13729814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 08:55:46 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OCtki23086 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:55:46 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws87-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.87]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6OCth713738
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 07:55:44 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F205FRaqbC8wSA1XvpF00000661@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3EA3CF.7033394D@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 07:55:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rashmi Murthy wrote:

> Yes. Did you catch my announcement of NamibiaFest2004? The long
> lead time is for people to line up vacation time, travel money,
> shots ...

Thanks.  I missed that one also.  Will mark my calendar.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 02:53:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13552
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 02:53:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEA556@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 8:52:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13729972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 08:58:26 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OCwQi23474 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:58:26 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-249.panax.com
          [63.163.41.249]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6OCwQn30489 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          08:58:26 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <F209zxvgGqBi3Gb4B1r00005af4@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020724085641.00a0fb70@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:58:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3EA222.8C77B81D@maynor.net>

>I think Scranton is probably the ideal place to turn right, but that
>means enduring more of PA.   -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

If you turn right at Scranton, you can turn left just after Newburgh and go
visit Alyce.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 03:17:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14618
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 03:16:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEA7D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 9:16:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13731679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 09:21:46 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ODLji26745 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:21:45 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ODE3b16554 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:14:03 -0400
Received: from [131.128.1.150] (BEACHBUM.ACC.uri.edu [131.128.1.150]) by
          terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g6ODJMk30979 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:19:22 -0400
References: <F209zxvgGqBi3Gb4B1r00005af4@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Message-ID:  <l03020901b96459e94902@[131.128.1.150]>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:23:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Jim Bradley <fna104@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3EA222.8C77B81D@maynor.net>

>The interstate I take for most of the trip is the one that starts not
>many miles east of Knoxville.  I go from here to Kville, then take I-40
>east to where the pleasant interstate starts.  I spend one night
>somewhere in Virginia -- Roanoke, Staunton, wherever.  Then I keep going
>north and start cussing when I get into Pennsylvania.  One time I turned
>right fairly early so that I could stop and visit Ken W. in Wayne, NJ.
>I think Scranton is probably the ideal place to turn right, but that
>means enduring more of PA.  Wherever I turn, I end up on I-95 north of
>NYC.  I did come back one time all the way through NYC on I-95 and
>turned west somewhere south of there.  That was the time a bunch of us
>in Providence were discussing the "Cross-Bronx Parkway" or whatever I-95
>is called in NYC, and some people were saying to avoid it at all costs
>while others (or maybe just JimB) said it was fine.  I decided to make
>the decision based on which lane I happened to be in when I reached the
>place to turn right for the Tappan Zee.  Fate put me in a leftish lane
>at that point, so I kept heading into the city -- and I found the
>Cross-Bronx Whatever a perfectly normal and comfortable experience.
>Nobody threw a tank onto my car from a bridge or whatever all those
>things people had warned me about were.
>

I have since discovered an alternate route--the Merritt parkway to
the Hutchinson to the Cross County to the Hudson River parkway. It
sounds complicated, but is easy, scenic and relatively uncongested.

/Jim

>--
> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 03:20:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14988
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 03:20:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEA82D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 9:19:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13731940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 09:25:05 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ODP5i27240 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:25:05 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-150.panax.com
          [65.114.190.150]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6ODP5n02721 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          09:25:05 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D3DECE7.61B63A04@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020724084054.00b448f8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:42:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: It's hot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020724024930.DCBF3964A@yellow.rahul.net>

At 07:49 PM 7/23/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>I wasn't wearing a hat, but I was drinking water regularly.

Depending on their construction, hats can trap heat.  However, hats can be
soaked down and worn, which really feels good on a hot day.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 03:29:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15006
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 03:29:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEA948@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 9:28:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13732765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 09:34:18 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ODYHi28947 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:34:17 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-36.panax.com
          [65.114.190.36]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6ODYHn04461 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          09:34:17 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020724024930.DCBF3964A@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D3DECE7.61B63A04@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020724093328.00a035f0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:34:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: It's hot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020724084054.00b448f8@mail.panax.com>

>Depending on their construction, hats can trap heat.  However, hats can be
>soaked down and worn, which really feels good on a hot day.
>cwv

Which is an old rowers' trick.  We used to also take our t-shirts off, soak
them in the cold water of the river, and put them back on.  What a rush!


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 03:32:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15015
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 03:32:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEA971@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 9:31:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13732867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 09:36:49 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ODani29186 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:36:49 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-36.panax.com
          [65.114.190.36]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6ODann04831 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          09:36:49 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020724084054.00b448f8@mail.panax.com>
            <20020724024930.DCBF3964A@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D3DECE7.61B63A04@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020724093444.00a0b750@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:36:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: It's hot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020724093328.00a035f0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

>Which is an old rowers' trick.  We used to also take our t-shirts off, soak
>them in the cold water of the river, and put them back on.  What a rush!
>   --bonniev

And speaking of heat and rowers, one of our club members (and also district
attorney of Anderson County) once got heat stroke during a race.  He
managed to row his single to the dock but then threw up.  His biggest
concern seemed to be that the vomit wouldn't float onto his beautiful
wooden rowing shell.  We got him up to the Knoxville boat house and held
him under the shower until he was better.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 03:40:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15026
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 03:40:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEAA4C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 9:39:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13733446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 09:44:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ODiui30300 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:44:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 634607FBA; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 06:44:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724134445.634607FBA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 06:44:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: It's hot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020724093328.00a035f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 24, 2002  9:34: 4 am"

bonniev said:
> >Depending on their construction, hats can trap heat.  However, hats can be
> >soaked down and worn, which really feels good on a hot day.
> >cwv
>
> Which is an old rowers' trick.  We used to also take our t-shirts off, soak
> them in the cold water of the river, and put them back on.  What a rush!

My neighbors would have gotten a kick out of that, I'm sure.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 03:40:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15033
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 03:40:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEAA56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 9:39:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13733469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 09:45:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ODj3i30366 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:45:03 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7241880CE; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 06:44:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724134416.7241880CE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 06:44:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: It's hot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020724084054.00b448f8@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 24, 2002  8:42: 9 am"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> At 07:49 PM 7/23/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >I wasn't wearing a hat, but I was drinking water regularly.
>
> Depending on their construction, hats can trap heat.  However, hats can be
> soaked down and worn, which really feels good on a hot day.

Noted.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 03:43:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15038
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 03:43:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEAAA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 9:42:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13733773 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 09:47:52 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ODlqi31127 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:47:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 781E28137; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 06:47:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724134751.781E28137@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 06:47:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: It's hot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020724093444.00a0b750@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 24, 2002  9:36:40 am"

bonniev said:
> And speaking of heat and rowers, one of our club members (and also district
> attorney of Anderson County) once got heat stroke during a race.  He
> managed to row his single to the dock but then threw up.  His biggest
> concern seemed to be that the vomit wouldn't float onto his beautiful
> wooden rowing shell.

I understand this. I had the most amazing focus on something I forget
now. I just remembered feeling really mentally sharp and physically
awful.

> We got him up to the Knoxville boat house and held
> him under the shower until he was better.

Ah. So I did the right thing.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 03:45:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15063
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 03:45:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0015C5DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 9:49:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13733053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 09:49:57 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ODdbi29518 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:39:37 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6ODdbQ4002037 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:39:37 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207240938490.26118-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:39:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: It's hot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020724093328.00a035f0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, bonniev wrote:

>Which is an old rowers' trick.  We used to also take our t-shirts off, soak
>them in the cold water of the river, and put them back on.  What a rush!

When I ride on hot days, I often wet my hair before putting my helmet
on. Makes a huge difference.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 03:50:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15072
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 03:50:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEAB2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 9:49:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13734215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 09:55:00 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ODt0i32262 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:55:00 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust139.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.141]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005488135@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 09:54:58 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F209zxvgGqBi3Gb4B1r00005af4@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020724085641.00a0fb70@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3EB230.B39A85DA@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:57:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> >I think Scranton is probably the ideal place to turn right, but that
> >means enduring more of PA.   -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
> If you turn right at Scranton, you can turn left just after Newburgh and go
> visit Alyce.

Yup.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 04:12:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15454
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 04:12:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEADC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:11:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13736849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 10:17:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OEHHi05739 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:17:17 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9FEB97ED9; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 06:43:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724134358.9FEB97ED9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 06:43:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: It's hot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3EA2B9.AD71D2C6@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 24,
              2002  7:51: 5 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> As I'm sure you realize,

Actually,  I didn't till JMW said.

> what you experienced was a classic case of heat
> exhaustion, and it's a good thing you went inside since heat exhaustion
> can lead to heat stroke, which is not something to mess with.

What are the symptoms of heat stroke?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 04:17:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15479
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 04:17:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0015C925@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:22:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13737330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 10:22:14 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6OEMCi06713 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:22:12 -0400
Received: from wh12485741 (216.249.154.5) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex
          6.5.007) id 3D0A9704001704D8 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 09:18:30 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000601c2331a$22a992e0$059af9d8@murraystate.edu>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:58:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Giant Sunflower
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I went over to do some work for Major Ingram this morning in his garden and
he has a GIANT sunflower.  Two weeks ago when I was there it was about five
feet tall, now it's an easy ten feet.  Wow.

>jbh

I so enjoyed gazing upon huge fields of sunflowers while cruising about
Andalucia in a Seat. About time to do something like that again.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 04:27:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15506
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 04:27:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEAFBD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:26:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13738380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 10:32:04 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OEW4i08590 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:32:04 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZR003LECDFT7@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:32:03 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F209zxvgGqBi3Gb4B1r00005af4@hotmail.com>
            <l03020901b96459e94902@[131.128.1.150]>
Message-ID:  <3D3EBA03.2000100@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:30:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Jim Bradley wrote:

>>The interstate I take for most of the trip is the one that starts not
>>many miles east of Knoxville.  I go from here to Kville, then take I-40
>>east to where the pleasant interstate starts.  I spend one night
>>somewhere in Virginia -- Roanoke, Staunton, wherever.  Then I keep going
>>north and start cussing when I get into Pennsylvania.  One time I turned
>>right fairly early so that I could stop and visit Ken W. in Wayne, NJ.
>>I think Scranton is probably the ideal place to turn right, but that
>>means enduring more of PA.  Wherever I turn, I end up on I-95 north of
>>NYC.  I did come back one time all the way through NYC on I-95 and
>>turned west somewhere south of there.  That was the time a bunch of us
>>in Providence were discussing the "Cross-Bronx Parkway" or whatever I-95
>>is called in NYC, and some people were saying to avoid it at all costs
>>while others (or maybe just JimB) said it was fine.  I decided to make
>>the decision based on which lane I happened to be in when I reached the
>>place to turn right for the Tappan Zee.  Fate put me in a leftish lane
>>at that point, so I kept heading into the city -- and I found the
>>Cross-Bronx Whatever a perfectly normal and comfortable experience.
>>Nobody threw a tank onto my car from a bridge or whatever all those
>>things people had warned me about were.
>>
>>
>
> I have since discovered an alternate route--the Merritt parkway to
> the Hutchinson to the Cross County to the Hudson River parkway. It
> sounds complicated, but is easy, scenic and relatively uncongested.
>
> /Jim
>


        I am fond of 209 in PA, which cuts through the Poconos and is
a beautiful, semi-free ride.  It runs between I-80 and I-84.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 04:39:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15526
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 04:39:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEB101@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:38:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13739244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 10:44:45 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f175.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.175]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OEiji10419 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:44:45 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          24 Jul 2002 07:44:40 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 14:44:39 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jul 2002 14:44:40.0069 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A3D94350:01C23320]
Message-ID:  <F1753HFnwpGR881Np7v00006ae9@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:44:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      interesting Canadian coin
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Canada supplies planchets for United States dollar coins (and apparently
nickels, according to this story). Look what happens when you mic Sackagawea
planchets and Canadian coin presses:

http://www.coinworld.com/News/080502/News-1.asp

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 04:57:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15576
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 04:57:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEB327@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:56:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13740502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 11:01:47 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OF1ki13227 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:01:46 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DC8C29AA6; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 08:01:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724150145.DC8C29AA6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:01:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      A Words-l Theme Song?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

You need QuickTime installed--at least, that's how it played on my
machine.

http://www.thangmaker.com/music/cuts/mike.MP3

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 05:08:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15592
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 05:08:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEB4A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:07:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13741579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 11:13:35 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OFDZi15150 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:13:35 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27691 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:13:32 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02
          11:13:34 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02 11:13:05 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3E8BBF.4047.BBACEF@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:13:03 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: A Words-l Theme Song?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020724150145.DC8C29AA6@yellow.rahul.net>

and perhaps we could come up with appropriate choreography as
well

BrP



> You need QuickTime installed--at least, that's how it played on my
> machine.
>
> http://www.thangmaker.com/music/cuts/mike.MP3
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 05:10:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15599
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 05:10:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0015CED6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:14:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13741670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 11:14:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OFEni15300 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:14:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CAF397ECC; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 08:14:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724151448.CAF397ECC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:14:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: A Words-l Theme Song?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3E8BBF.4047.BBACEF@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              24, 2002 11:13: 3 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> and perhaps we could come up with appropriate choreography as
> well

Chicken dance?:)

This was the first time I remember hearing the word 'poultrygeist'
aloud.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 06:02:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15662
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 06:02:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEBB3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:01:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13746070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 12:07:16 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe47.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OG7Gi24923 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:07:16 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          24 Jul 2002 09:07:10 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.70]
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jul 2002 16:07:10.0795 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[2AB619B0:01C2332C]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <OE478MXdUj4l4pK64nr00005e26@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:08:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Menorca
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I really would love to visit. Here's a website of an incredible place =
shown to me by one of my summer students from Barcelona whose first =
language is Catalan:

http://www.covadenxoroi.com/

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 06:03:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15669
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 06:03:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEBB47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:02:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13746087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 12:07:55 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OG7ti25038 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:07:55 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust230.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.232]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005491325@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 12:07:55 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3ED159.DC166E15@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:10:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Larry K
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In the latest The Nation (August 5/12):

"There's a slow, growing recognition that Dingell could be in trouble
here," says Washtenaw County Commissioner Larry Kestenbaum, one of the
best political number crunchers in the region.
---
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 06:20:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15687
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 06:20:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEBC61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:19:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13746851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 12:25:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OGP0i27548 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:25:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 99C2B8F54; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 09:24:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724162459.99C2B8F54@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:24:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Larry K
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3ED159.DC166E15@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 24,
              2002 12:10: 1 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> In the latest The Nation (August 5/12):
>
> "There's a slow, growing recognition that Dingell could be in trouble
> here," says Washtenaw County Commissioner Larry Kestenbaum, one of the
> best political number crunchers in the region.

Woohoo! Go Larry!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 06:31:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15727
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 06:31:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEBD50@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:30:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13747578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 12:36:42 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OGafi29464 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:36:41 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6OGafx02349
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:36:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F253k4RA59w1PAylAQc00014108@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3ED982.5F55CA74@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:44:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rashmi Murthy wrote:
>
> The huge TransEuropa Ferry gingerly making its way out between
> the piers was called Oleander.

After Karen's oleandER.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 06:34:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15731
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 06:34:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEBD94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:33:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13747176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 12:39:35 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OGTSi28237 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:29:28 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6OGTRQ4003868 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:29:27 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207241224530.26118-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:29:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Pilates negotiations
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I finally spoke at length with one of the Maryville Pilates
instructors. Both are available only through the gym located in Foothills
Mall - not a place I want to drive every week. But I can have 2 private
sessions without having to join the gym, and she thinks that I can learn
enough in those sessions to either join a Pilates-type class at my Y or
work independently at least for a while. Having more than 2 sessions will
involve joining the gym (on either a 3-year contract or an expensive join
plus month-to-month fee).

I'll start with the two sessions in August (after Finland) - then decide
where to go with this.

Between now and the 1st, I'll schedule a massage here in Knoxville and
continue with workouts and swimming. And I may ride in the morning.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 06:41:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15747
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 06:41:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0015D7F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:46:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13748066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 12:46:10 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6OGkAi30801 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          12:46:10 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-204-241.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.204.241]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6OGk94178762 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul
          2002 12:46:09 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEEIFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:45:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: It's hot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020724134751.781E28137@yellow.rahul.net>

A couple of years ago, I spent a day at the pool with my girlfriends from
high school and for the first time in my life sat in a jacuzzi. I'm not one
for warm or hot water....but it was feeling good that day. And so I sat. And
sat. Later, when we were clearing out, doing dishes at my folks' place, I
started to feel *not so good*. I slumped over the sink. My friends made me
sit and they had me drink lots and lots of water. We waited around for me to
feel better...which I did...I didn't really believe their diagnosis of heat
stroke or such. They followed me mostly home (or at least to the Golden Gate
Bridge). I was unable to convince my now-ex boyfriend that I wasn't feeling
well enough to meet him somewhere we'd discussed earlier. And I didn't think
I was *that* ill. At dinner I couldn't eat (dead giveaway! medical alert
time!). Later that night, I went to bed early. Later, when he joined me, he
freaked out. Said I was "on fire." In the morning, I had a temp of 103.8 (I
have a tendancy to run high temps). I slowly cooled down over the course of
the day. I still do the jacuzzi thing very rarely, but I don't cook myself
any more.

Sandra

> bonniev said:
> > And speaking of heat and rowers, one of our club members (and
> also district
> > attorney of Anderson County) once got heat stroke during a race.  He
> > managed to row his single to the dock but then threw up.  His biggest
> > concern seemed to be that the vomit wouldn't float onto his beautiful
> > wooden rowing shell.
>
> I understand this. I had the most amazing focus on something I forget
> now. I just remembered feeling really mentally sharp and physically
> awful.
>
> > We got him up to the Knoxville boat house and held
> > him under the shower until he was better.
>
> Ah. So I did the right thing.
>
> Karen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 06:55:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15770
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 06:55:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0015D9A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:00:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13748217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 13:00:38 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OGobi31300 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:50:38 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7D9821C for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:50:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6OGobR63604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:50:37
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020724115037.A62151@pobox.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:50:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

AKA, yet another day in tech land.

Deliver me Jesus

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 07:14:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15785
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 07:14:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEC180@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:12:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13751018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 13:18:44 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OHIhi03742 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:18:43 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16280 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>;
          Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:17:59 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02
          13:17:59 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02 13:17:31 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g6OHIii03743
Message-ID:  <3D3EA8EA.25490.12DA34C@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:17:31 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      beware the exploding Nutella
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Reuters News Agency

Rome — Police are warning Wednesday that a man dubbed the
"Italian Unabomber" may have struck again after a jar of Nutella
chocolate spread exploded in a kitchen in northern Italy.

Authorities said Pamela Martinello, 35, a housewife from the town of
Pordenone near Venice, was lucky to escape serious injury
Tuesday after returning from shopping. Unscrewing the lid on a new
jar of Nutella, she heard a ticking sound and ran away just before it
exploded, Il Giornale newspaper reported Wednesday.

Police concluded it was the latest in a series of attacks over the
past two years thought to have been carried out by the Italian
Unabomber, the newspaper said.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 07:24:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15815
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 07:24:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEC297@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:23:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13751766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 13:29:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OHT2i05194 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:29:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0547F97CA; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 10:29:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724172900.0547F97CA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:29:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3ED982.5F55CA74@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 24,
              2002  9:44:50 am"

Betty said:
> Rashmi Murthy wrote:
> > The huge TransEuropa Ferry gingerly making its way out between
> > the piers was called Oleander.
>
> After Karen's oleandER.

1) He's not mine.
2) He's not a TransEuropa ferry.
3) He's not named Oleander.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 07:26:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15823
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 07:26:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0015DD17@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:31:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13751942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 13:31:01 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OHV1i05595 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:31:01 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust230.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.232]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005493486@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 13:31:00 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D3EA8EA.25490.12DA34C@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <3D3EE4D1.84F0DAB4@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:33:05 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: beware the exploding Nutella
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> Reuters News Agency
>
> Rome — Police are warning Wednesday that a man dubbed the
> "Italian Unabomber" may have struck again after a jar of Nutella
> chocolate spread exploded in a kitchen

Topped only by today's news that a man in a "Pennsylvania chocolate
factory" fell into a vat of liquid chocolate (and did not get out). I
wonder why the company is unnamed--surely it is the big "H."

alyce

--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 07:30:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15835
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 07:30:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0015DD81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:34:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13752254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 13:34:46 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OHYji06224 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:34:45 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.8]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZRKRR03.HFN for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:33:27 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D3EA8EA.25490.12DA34C@localhost> <3D3EE4D1.84F0DAB4@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3EE50E.E3D4813F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:34:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: beware the exploding Nutella
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Topped only by today's news that a man in a "Pennsylvania chocolate
> factory" fell into a vat of liquid chocolate (and did not get out). I
> wonder why the company is unnamed--surely it is the big "H."

    Oh, c'mon!  That's a Bill Cosby joke.

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 07:38:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15839
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 07:38:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEC3EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:37:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13752826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 13:43:03 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OHh3i07516 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:43:03 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26716 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:43:02 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02
          13:43:02 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02 13:42:25 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3EAEBC.5032.1445FFF@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:42:21 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      HDR
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3EE50E.E3D4813F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>

The UNDP's 2002 Human Development Report is out.  Here are the
best places to live:

1 Norway
2 Sweden
3 Canada
4 Belgium
5 Australia
6 USA
7 Iceland
8 Netherlands
9 Japan
10 Finland

Canada was #1 last year (and a few years before that I think).  Hey
guys, what happened?

BrP

-fantasizing about a crowd of spectators waving their American
flags and chanting "We're number 6! We're number 6!"

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 07:45:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15859
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 07:45:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0015DF18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:50:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13753260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 13:50:37 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OHobi08444 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:50:37 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust230.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.232]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004181074@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 13:50:33 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D3EA8EA.25490.12DA34C@localhost> <3D3EE4D1.84F0DAB4@valstar.net>
            <3D3EE50E.E3D4813F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3EE964.70AB5BE6@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:52:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: beware the exploding Nutella
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

John Williams wrote:
>
>     Oh, c'mon!  That's a Bill Cosby joke.

Then CNN is using Cosby's material on their headlines scroll.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 07:56:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15868
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 07:56:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEC562@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:55:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13753784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 14:00:51 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OI0oi09672 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:00:50 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6OI0nY09202 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          13:00:50 -0500 (CDT)
References: <3D3EA8EA.25490.12DA34C@localhost>  <3D3EE4D1.84F0DAB4@valstar.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <004201c2333c$42f063e0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:02:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: beware the exploding Nutella
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Topped only by today's news that a man in a "Pennsylvania chocolate
> factory" fell into a vat of liquid chocolate (and did not get out). I
> wonder why the company is unnamed--surely it is the big "H."
>
> alyce

New candybar?  Man from Mars?

            - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 07:56:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15872
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 07:56:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0015DFF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:00:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13753788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 14:00:52 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OI0qi09680 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:00:52 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6OI0pU09880
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:00:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D3EA8EA.25490.12DA34C@localhost> <3D3EE4D1.84F0DAB4@valstar.net>
            <3D3EE50E.E3D4813F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3EED3D.7E35AFA4@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:09:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: beware the exploding Nutella
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

John Williams wrote:
>
> alyce cresap wrote:
>
> > Topped only by today's news that a man in a "Pennsylvania chocolate
> > factory" fell into a vat of liquid chocolate (and did not get out). I
> > wonder why the company is unnamed--surely it is the big "H."
>
>     Oh, c'mon!  That's a Bill Cosby joke.

And you're supposed to yell FIRE because no one would believe you if you
yelled CHOCOLATE!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 07:59:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15879
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 07:59:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0015E03E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:04:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13753939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 14:04:08 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OI48i10105 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:04:08 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZR008F2M6V0N@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:04:08 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
Message-ID:  <3D3EEBB7.90304@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:02:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Thinking of BrP
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Today, we went down to see Bob Kramer's Marionette show in
the Central West End.  I think I remember that Paul is
interested in puppetry?  It was a wonderful show -- the
marionettes are outstandingly designed and constructed.  Ana
had a terrific time, and I just got a kick out of being a
part of Mr. Kramer's little fantasy world for an hour or so.

--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 08:02:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15892
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 08:02:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEC5DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:01:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13754132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 14:06:48 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6OI6mi10441 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          14:06:48 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-204-241.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.204.241]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6OI6g4341172 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul
          2002 14:06:42 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEELFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:05:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: beware the exploding Nutella
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3EED3D.7E35AFA4@uclink.berkeley.edu>

I'm not sure about that. Yell CHOCOLATE and a lot of people will come
running :)

Sandra

> John Williams wrote:
> >
> > alyce cresap wrote:
> >
> > > Topped only by today's news that a man in a "Pennsylvania chocolate
> > > factory" fell into a vat of liquid chocolate (and did not get out). I
> > > wonder why the company is unnamed--surely it is the big "H."
> >
> >     Oh, c'mon!  That's a Bill Cosby joke.
>
> And you're supposed to yell FIRE because no one would believe you if you
> yelled CHOCOLATE!
>
> Betty
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 08:03:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15898
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 08:03:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEC5F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:02:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13754192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 14:08:05 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6OI85i10628 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          14:08:05 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-204-241.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.204.241]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6OI844391758 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul
          2002 14:08:04 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEELFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:06:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: beware the exploding Nutella
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3EED3D.7E35AFA4@uclink.berkeley.edu>

All these mentions of Nutella reminds me of the yummy chocolate/banana
crepes I had when on my Greek soujourn. Lordy, those were tasty.

Sandra

> John Williams wrote:
> >
> > alyce cresap wrote:
> >
> > > Topped only by today's news that a man in a "Pennsylvania chocolate
> > > factory" fell into a vat of liquid chocolate (and did not get out). I
> > > wonder why the company is unnamed--surely it is the big "H."
> >
> >     Oh, c'mon!  That's a Bill Cosby joke.
>
> And you're supposed to yell FIRE because no one would believe you if you
> yelled CHOCOLATE!
>
> Betty
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 08:31:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15951
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 08:31:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0015E38E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:36:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13756446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 14:36:07 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OIa7i15712 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:36:07 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17818 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:35:58 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02
          14:35:58 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02 14:34:25 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3EBAE8.9051.173EECD@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:34:17 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Thinking of BrP
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3EEBB7.90304@swbell.net>

That's very sweet Rita. Puppetry done well can absolutely create
an alternate reality.  In this country everybody thinks it's only for
kids, but I've seen (and performed in) some very adult puppet
shows.  I'll have to look up info on Bob Kramer.  I'll bet he's a guild
member.
If you haven't seen it, you might enjoy looking at the website for our
mask and Puppetry Museum here.  I've been involved in Open Hand
Theater for about 20 years.

openhandtheater.org

BrP




> Today, we went down to see Bob Kramer's Marionette show in
> the Central West End.  I think I remember that Paul is
> interested in puppetry?  It was a wonderful show -- the
> marionettes are outstandingly designed and constructed.  Ana
> had a terrific time, and I just got a kick out of being a
> part of Mr. Kramer's little fantasy world for an hour or so.
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita
>
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 08:39:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15959
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 08:39:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEC98C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:38:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13757031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 14:44:11 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OIiBi17045 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:44:11 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZR0033AO1LT5@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:44:11 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D3EBAE8.9051.173EECD@localhost>
Message-ID:  <3D3EF519.3000501@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:42:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Thinking of BrP
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

> That's very sweet Rita. Puppetry done well can absolutely create
> an alternate reality.  In this country everybody thinks it's only for
> kids, but I've seen (and performed in) some very adult puppet
> shows.  I'll have to look up info on Bob Kramer.  I'll bet he's a guild
> member.


Oh, he must be.  He created Toyland, I guess.  Here's his
website:  http://www.kramersmarionnettes.com/

The subject matter of the show was adultish -- Broadway
shows (it was just this much shy of being a drag show LOL),
but lots of kid appeal.  I'm not sure what Ana liked best
about it, but she was on the edge of her seat the entire time.


> If you haven't seen it, you might enjoy looking at the website for our
> mask and Puppetry Museum here.  I've been involved in Open Hand
> Theater for about 20 years.
>
> openhandtheater.org


I have.  Your building looks a lot like the one we saw the
puppet show in today.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 08:55:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15988
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 08:55:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0015E5F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:59:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13758469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 14:59:48 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OIxmi20099 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:59:48 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-150.panax.com
          [65.114.190.150]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6OIxmn03094 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          14:59:48 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D3EA8EA.25490.12DA34C@localhost> <3D3EE4D1.84F0DAB4@valstar.net>
            <3D3EE50E.E3D4813F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020724140201.00b5dbc8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:02:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: beware the exploding Nutella
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3EE964.70AB5BE6@valstar.net>

At 01:52 PM 7/24/2002 -0400, alyce wrote:
>John Williams wrote:
> >
> >     Oh, c'mon!  That's a Bill Cosby joke.
>
>Then CNN is using Cosby's material on their headlines scroll.

It also was a song (parody?) by the Smothers Brothers.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 08:57:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16000
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 08:57:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EECBA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:56:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13758786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:02:25 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJ2Pi20767 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:02:25 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws63-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.63]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6OJ2M705939
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:02:22 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F209zxvgGqBi3Gb4B1r00005af4@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020724085641.00a0fb70@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3EF9BD.D4E5E556@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:02:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> If you turn right at Scranton, you can turn left just after Newburgh and go
> visit Alyce.

Maybe I can toss her into my car and take her to Acadiafest.  That would
be fun.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 08:59:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16007
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 08:59:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0015E66A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:04:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13758917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:04:02 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJ42i21046 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:04:02 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws63-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.63]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6OJ3w706526
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:03:59 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F209zxvgGqBi3Gb4B1r00005af4@hotmail.com>
            <l03020901b96459e94902@[131.128.1.150]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3EFA1E.7B21BBAF@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:03:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Jim Bradley wrote:

> I have since discovered an alternate route--the Merritt parkway to
> the Hutchinson to the Cross County to the Hudson River parkway. It
> sounds complicated, but is easy, scenic and relatively uncongested.

I love the Merritt Parkway.  I've used it when intentionally going to
NYC -- to as opposed to through.  Lovejudith introduced me to it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:00:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16018
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:00:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EECBF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:59:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13759078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:05:07 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJ57i21348 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:05:07 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust136.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.138]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004183098@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:05:04 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F209zxvgGqBi3Gb4B1r00005af4@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020724085641.00a0fb70@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D3EF9BD.D4E5E556@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3EFADC.56FFA452@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:07:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
> >
> Maybe I can toss her into my car and take her to Acadiafest.  That would
> be fun.

Be gentle with that toss, please.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:00:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16019
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:00:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0015E690@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:05:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13759081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:05:07 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJ57i21352 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:05:07 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws63-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.63]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6OJ4u706887
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:05:02 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020724084054.00b448f8@mail.panax.com>
            <20020724024930.DCBF3964A@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D3DECE7.61B63A04@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020724093444.00a0b750@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3EFA57.94683439@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:04:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: It's hot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> And speaking of heat and rowers, one of our club members (and also district
> attorney of Anderson County) once got heat stroke during a race.  He
> managed to row his single to the dock but then threw up.  His biggest

That sounds more like heat exhaustion than heat stroke.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:02:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16026
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:02:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0015E6C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:07:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13759297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:07:06 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJ76i21835 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:07:06 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws63-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.63]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6OJ71707714
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:07:02 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020724134358.9FEB97ED9@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3EFAD5.EB146092@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:07:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: It's hot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> What are the symptoms of heat stroke?

Hot skin (extremely high temperature), breathing problems, crazy pulse
rate, possibly convulsions.  With heat stroke one doesn't do things like
simply go inside and try to get cool -- one goes to the hospital.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:06:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16031
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:06:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EECC92@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:05:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13759638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:11:35 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f65.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.65]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJBZi22627 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:11:35 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          24 Jul 2002 12:11:29 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 19:11:29 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jul 2002 19:11:29.0558 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[EA3F6B60:01C23345]
Message-ID:  <F65wCVFGzXhPILIpadE0001bd50@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:11:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>After Karen's oleandER.

Don't you mean "Wertz?"

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:09:45 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16040
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:09:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0015E79C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:14:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13758983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:14:24 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJ4Oi21155 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:04:24 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6OJ4NQ4010149 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:04:24 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207241503570.1695-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:04:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3EF9BD.D4E5E556@maynor.net>

On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> If you turn right at Scranton, you can turn left just after Newburgh and go
>> visit Alyce.
>
>Maybe I can toss her into my car and take her to Acadiafest.  That would
>be fun.

Alyce, we told you you should start eating more!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:09:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16047
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:09:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EECD07@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:08:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13760097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:14:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJEbi23539 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:14:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6BA0794DD; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 12:14:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724191436.6BA0794DD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:14:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: It's hot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3EFAD5.EB146092@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 24,
              2002  2: 7: 1 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > What are the symptoms of heat stroke?
>
> Hot skin (extremely high temperature), breathing problems, crazy pulse
> rate, possibly convulsions.  With heat stroke one doesn't do things like
> simply go inside and try to get cool -- one goes to the hospital.

I think the key thing with heat stroke is that one stops sweating. As
you said, I was classic for heat exhaustion.

Here's the CDC page on heat exhaustion:
http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/hsb/extremeheat/heatexhaustion.htm

And for heat stroke: http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/hsb/extremeheat/heatstroke.htm

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:10:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16051
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:10:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EECD08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:08:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13760102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:14:42 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f8.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.8]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJEfi23550 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:14:41 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          24 Jul 2002 12:14:36 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 19:14:36 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jul 2002 19:14:36.0557 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[59B533D0:01C23346]
Message-ID:  <F8GjOx33dsaKEDKPQMr00002d80@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:14:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: HDR
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Canada was #1 last year (and a few years before that I think).  Hey
>guys, what happened?

Norwegian judges on the panel replaced last year's Canadian ones.

-a

_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:10:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16055
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:10:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EECD21@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:09:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13760197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:15:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJFOi23793 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:15:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4662E9353; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 12:15:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724191523.4662E9353@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:15:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F65wCVFGzXhPILIpadE0001bd50@hotmail.com> from Anne Toal at "Jul
              24, 2002  2:11:29 pm"

Anne Toal said:
> >After Karen's oleandER.
>
> Don't you mean "Wertz?"

LOL. Someone's been trying to figure things out!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:11:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16059
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:11:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0015E7CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:16:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13760260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:16:13 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJGDi23947 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:16:13 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05720 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:16:13 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02
          15:16:14 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02 15:16:06 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3EC4AF.17751.19A21C7@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:16:01 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Thinking of BrP
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3EF519.3000501@swbell.net>

> The subject matter of the show was adultish -- Broadway
> shows (it was just this much shy of being a drag show LOL),

You may have this backwards, I often think of drag show
performers as being very puppet-like, especially when they lip sync.

>
> I have.  Your building looks a lot like the one we saw the
> puppet show in today.

Way cool!


> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita
>
>

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:13:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16063
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:13:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EECD64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:12:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13760418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:17:49 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJHni24295 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:17:49 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06218 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:17:42 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02
          15:17:48 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02 15:17:26 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g6OJHni24303
Message-ID:  <3D3EC500.6495.19B5B7D@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:17:22 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: HDR
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F8GjOx33dsaKEDKPQMr00002d80@hotmail.com>

If Canada placed #2 I'd suggest duplicate gold - but it's tough to do
that from third place.

BrP


> >Canada was #1 last year (and a few years before that I think).  Hey
> >guys, what happened?
>
> Norwegian judges on the panel replaced last year's Canadian ones.
>
> -a
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:13:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16067
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:13:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EECD66@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:12:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13760434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:17:52 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJHqi24358 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:17:52 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000006;
          24 Jul 02 15:17:25 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 24 Jul 02
          15:17:12 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000005; 24 Jul 02 15:17:08 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D3EC4F4.14258.9EA76DC@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:17:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: there's a picture of everything on the web
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020724135238.A11264@yoccoz.multinix.com>

On Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 13:52, steph wrote:

> http://www.ferry-site.dk/pos-pic.htm
>
> the ferry Oleander

The sibling of the Herald of Free Enterprise, I see. Not sure if I'd
want to get on the thing.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:16:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16077
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:16:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EECDB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:15:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13760725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:20:51 -0400
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJKpi25200 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:20:51 -0400
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP
          for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0015E867@malibu.cc.uga.edu>;
          Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:20:50 -0400
Message-ID:  <200207241920.g6OJKpi25200@listserv.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:20:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne <harwell@PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:15:23 -0700, Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:

>LOL. Someone's been trying to figure things out!

Looks like I hit a nERve!

-a

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:18:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16086
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:18:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EECDD9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:17:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13760858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:23:10 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJN9i25504 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:23:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F1B989713; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 12:23:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724192305.F1B989713@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:23:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <200207241920.g6OJKpi25200@listserv.cc.uga.edu> from Anne at "Jul
              24, 2002  3:20:51 pm"

Anne said:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:15:23 -0700, Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:
> >LOL. Someone's been trying to figure things out!
>
> Looks like I hit a nERve!

Not one of mine.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:21:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16093
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:21:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0015E8E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:25:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13760228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:25:57 -0400
Received: from johnson.mail.mindspring.net (johnson.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.177]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6OJFui23886 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          15:15:57 -0400
Received: from caracalla-z.mspring.net ([207.69.231.76] helo=mspring.net) by
          johnson.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id
          17XRc2-0002QJ-00 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          15:15:54 -0400
Received: by mspring.net id PAA0000007027; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:15:54 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID:  <200207241915.PAA0000007027@mspring.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:15:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Debbie@MSPRING.NET
Subject:      You Have A Greeting Card!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

You have a card at the McKee Foods Greeting Card Center!
You can view your card at:

http://www.mckeefoods.com/cards/box/ca9514464226.htm

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:30:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16138
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:30:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0015EA01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:35:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13761838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:35:03 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJZ3i27649 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:35:03 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13318 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:35:02 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02
          15:35:03 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02 15:34:47 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3EC90C.4682.1AB2DC3@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:34:38 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: You Have A Greeting Card!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <200207241915.PAA0000007027@mspring.net>

Debbie? As in Little Debbie?

How sweet

BrP




> You have a card at the McKee Foods Greeting Card Center!
> You can view your card at:
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:39:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16150
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:39:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EECFEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:38:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13762478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:44:01 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJi0i29225 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:44:01 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000008;
          24 Jul 02 15:43:34 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 24 Jul 02
          15:43:25 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000007; 24 Jul 02 15:43:18 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <3D3EE50E.E3D4813F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D3ECB16.5868.A026A74@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:43:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: HDR
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3EAEBC.5032.1445FFF@localhost>

On Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 13:42, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

> The UNDP's 2002 Human Development Report is out.  Here are the
> best places to live:
>
> 1 Norway
> 2 Sweden
> 3 Canada
> 4 Belgium
> 5 Australia
> 6 USA
> 7 Iceland
> 8 Netherlands
> 9 Japan
> 10 Finland
>
> Canada was #1 last year (and a few years before that I think).

I don't think we've been #1 for two or three years - certainly not
last year.

> Hey guys, what happened?

Probably the ever increasing integration with the US economy. :-(

> -fantasizing about a crowd of spectators waving their American
> flags and chanting "We're number 6! We're number 6!"

:-)

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:44:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16162
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:44:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EED07A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:43:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13762943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:49:21 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJnLi30190 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:49:21 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO00000A;
          24 Jul 02 15:48:54 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 24 Jul 02
          15:48:34 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000009; 24 Jul 02 15:48:28 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-description: Mail message body
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g6OJnLi30193
Message-ID:  <3D3ECC4C.6149.A0726AC@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:48:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: interesting Canadian coin
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F1753HFnwpGR881Np7v00006ae9@hotmail.com>

On Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 9:44, Anne Toal wrote:

> Canada supplies planchets for United States dollar coins (and
> apparently nickels, according to this story). Look what happens when
> you mic Sackagawea planchets and Canadian coin presses:
>
> http://www.coinworld.com/News/080502/News-1.asp

Interesting... I thought I remembered that the material for the US
laminated coins was produced by duPont using some bizarre explosive
process. What would the RCM be doing with the US blanks, I wonder, if
they're not actually banging out the coins.

The CA 50¢ coins are in an odd position: they're circulating coins,
but you can't actually get them anywhere except by going to the mint
and paying a premium of $1.50 per roll of 25. I've been trying to get
a bunch just to cause trouble in local stores (they look a lot like
quarters), but it's been nearly impossible.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:46:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16174
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 09:46:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EED0D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:45:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13763149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 15:51:35 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OJpYi30477 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:51:34 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20091 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:51:34 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02
          15:51:34 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02 15:51:08 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Priority: normal
References: <F1753HFnwpGR881Np7v00006ae9@hotmail.com>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g6OJpZi30478
Message-ID:  <3D3ECCEA.5531.1BA47AA@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:51:07 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: interesting Canadian coin
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3ECC4C.6149.A0726AC@localhost>

I have one of the Jubilee ones.

BrP




> The CA 50¢ coins are in an odd position: they're circulating coins,
> but you can't actually get them anywhere except by going to the mint
> and paying a premium of $1.50 per roll of 25. I've been trying to get
> a bunch just to cause trouble in local stores (they look a lot like
> quarters), but it's been nearly impossible.
>
> Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 10:00:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16192
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 10:00:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EED275@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:59:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13764354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 16:05:27 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OK5Ri00724 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:05:27 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6OK5PR26264 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:05:25 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207241504370.26215-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:05:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020724115037.A62151@pobox.com>

On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:

> AKA, yet another day in tech land.
>
> Deliver me Jesus

I don't understand

-Jesus-

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 10:01:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16196
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 10:01:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EED282@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:59:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13764367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 16:05:41 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f234.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.234]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OK5ei00764 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:05:41 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          24 Jul 2002 13:05:35 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 20:05:35 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jul 2002 20:05:35.0417 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[78EE3290:01C2334D]
Message-ID:  <F234CZc5knn3aA3uisg0001dd45@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:05:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Blame Canada
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Interesting... I thought I remembered that the material for the US
>laminated coins was produced by duPont using some bizarre explosive
>process. What would the RCM be doing with the US blanks, I wonder, if
>they're not actually banging out the coins.

I think the US Mint decided early on to purchase the planchets from Canada
because their experience producing the Loonie allowed them to get consistent
quality, much faster than if a US manufacturer had to learn it all from
scratch. I don't recall the makeup of the Loonie, but the Sackie is a copper
core bonded to magnesium brass, with secret sauce (acetic acid) added during
finishing to retard tarnishing.

The nickel was a bigger surprise to me than the Sackie.

Say, did you know that the US FCC is forwarding radio license applications
to their Canadian counterpart for vetting before giving US approval? At
least they are with our application for a permit for our 2-mile
walkie-talkies. Seems unlikely that a 2-mile handheld radio located 17 miles
from the Mexican border would intrerfere with Canada, but that's where our
application currently is. Apparently the Canadians complained so loudly
about US interference, that we send certain applications to the Canadians
for sign-off before we give final approval.

Tony, could you hurry this one along for us please?

-aht

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 10:02:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16200
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 10:02:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EED2B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:01:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13764532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 16:07:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OK7Gi01209 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:07:17 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DFC25806F; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 13:07:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724200715.DFC25806F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:07:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Question for Marieeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Are negimaki served room temperature or hot?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 10:03:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16204
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 10:03:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EED2D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:02:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13764613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 16:08:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OK88i01352 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:08:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7BD42806F; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 13:08:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724200807.7BD42806F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:08:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207241504370.26215-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 24, 2002  3: 5:25 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:
> > AKA, yet another day in tech land.
> >
> > Deliver me Jesus
>
> I don't understand

Just more moaning from the H1B scab about how he still has a job.

Karen
a member of the long-term unemployed

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 10:10:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16208
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 10:10:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EED3D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:08:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13765304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 16:14:43 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OKEhi02941 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:14:43 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZR003V1S8IT8@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:14:42 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D3EC4AF.17751.19A21C7@localhost>
Message-ID:  <3D3F0A53.5040708@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:13:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Thinking of BrP
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

>>The subject matter of the show was adultish -- Broadway
>>shows (it was just this much shy of being a drag show LOL),
>>
>
> You may have this backwards, I often think of drag show
> performers as being very puppet-like, especially when they lip sync.


LOL.  That may be how I made the drag show connection.


If you ever get to St. Louis, I'm taking you to see this
show (or rather whatever show is running at the time).


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 10:14:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16227
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 10:14:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0015EEE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:19:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13765657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 16:19:16 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OKJFi03686 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:19:15 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6OKJFsS326305 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          16:19:15 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000201c2334f$62558540$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:19:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Question for Marieeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020724200715.DFC25806F@yellow.rahul.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Karen Kay
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 4:07 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Question for Marieeeber
>
>
> Are negimaki served room temperature or hot?
>
> Karen
>

Not Marie, but that has never stopped me. The negimaki (rolled beef
around scallions) I have had is warm. I had it in a bento box meal at
our local Japanese restaurant.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 10:15:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16236
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 10:15:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0015EEF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:19:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13765685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 16:19:48 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OKJli03758 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:19:47 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01212 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:19:46 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02
          16:19:47 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 24 Jul 02 16:19:27 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3ED384.4291.1D41477@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:19:19 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Thinking of BrP
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3F0A53.5040708@swbell.net>

cool
it's a date

BrP



>
>
> If you ever get to St. Louis, I'm taking you to see this
> show (or rather whatever show is running at the time).
>
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita
>
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 10:17:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16240
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 10:17:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0015EF2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:22:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13765884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 16:22:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OKM3i04154 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:22:03 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A081682B9; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 13:22:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724202202.A081682B9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:22:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Question for Marieeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000201c2334f$62558540$48305b80@EAGLE72> from "Alec D. Plotkin"
              at "Jul 24, 2002  4:19:15 pm"

Alec D. Plotkin said:
> Not Marie, but that has never stopped me. The negimaki (rolled beef
> around scallions) I have had is warm. I had it in a bento box meal at
> our local Japanese restaurant.

Thanks, Aleceeber.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 10:21:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16252
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 10:21:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0015EF93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:26:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13766148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 16:26:36 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f230.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.230]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OKQai04714 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:26:36 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          24 Jul 2002 13:26:30 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          24 Jul 2002 20:26:30 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jul 2002 20:26:30.0793 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[65315F90:01C23350]
Message-ID:  <F230Pso2pDNzAKv5yEK0001bbc7@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:26:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Question for Marieeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>Are negimaki served room temperature or hot?

Hot.

My favorite place to eat negimaki serves it with steamed carrots and cold
bean sprouts on the side. Good with the sauce.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 10:24:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16259
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 10:24:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EED590@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:23:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13766293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 16:28:49 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6OKSni05030 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          16:28:49 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (63-203-204-241.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.203.204.241]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6OKSm445548 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          16:28:48 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEFFFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:27:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Question for Marieeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020724202202.A081682B9@yellow.rahul.net>

Yum. Sounds tasty. And healthy. What cut of meat is that? I may have
japanese food tonight..or cajun. Not sure yet.

Sandra

> Alec D. Plotkin said:
> > Not Marie, but that has never stopped me. The negimaki (rolled beef
> > around scallions) I have had is warm. I had it in a bento box meal at
> > our local Japanese restaurant.
>
> Thanks, Aleceeber.:)
>
> Karen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 10:29:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16266
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 10:29:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0015F05D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:34:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13766796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 16:34:19 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f80.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.80]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OKYIi06132 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:34:18 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          24 Jul 2002 13:34:13 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          24 Jul 2002 20:34:12 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jul 2002 20:34:13.0211 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[78D0C2B0:01C23351]
Message-ID:  <F80wyiHXQwugyPoT40Q0001bc75@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:34:12 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>Anne Toal said:
> > >After Karen's oleandER.
> >
> > Don't you mean "Wertz?"
>
>LOL. Someone's been trying to figure things out!

...or "werner"?

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 10:31:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16282
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 10:31:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EED667@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:30:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13766880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 16:35:50 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OKZni06388 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:35:49 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6OKZmsS385461 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          16:35:49 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000301c23351$b269a230$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:35:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Question for Marieeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEFFFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of S Hess
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 4:28 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Question for Marieeeber
>
>
> Yum. Sounds tasty. And healthy. What cut of meat is that? I may have
> japanese food tonight..or cajun. Not sure yet.
>
> Sandra
>
> > Alec D. Plotkin said:
> > > Not Marie, but that has never stopped me. The negimaki
> (rolled beef
> > > around scallions) I have had is warm. I had it in a bento
> box meal at
> > > our local Japanese restaurant.
> >
> > Thanks, Aleceeber.:)
> >
> > Karen
> >
>

A very thin beef. Similar, but not really like london broil. Not chewy
at all. Pork or chicken would work well too.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 10:38:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16286
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 10:38:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0015F158@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:42:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13767865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 16:42:54 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f94.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.94]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OKgsi08680 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:42:54 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          24 Jul 2002 13:42:49 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed,
          24 Jul 2002 20:42:48 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jul 2002 20:42:49.0091 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[AC4DCD30:01C23352]
Message-ID:  <F948AgUqyP9U9rBytsI0001b6fe@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:42:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: It's hot!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
>I was *that* ill. At dinner I couldn't eat (dead giveaway! medical alert
>time!).

LOL! I think it's happened to me once in my life.

Marie

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 11:03:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16335
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 11:03:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0015F440@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:08:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13770576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 17:08:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OL86i12768 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:08:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A7245974B; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 14:07:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724210703.A7245974B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:07:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F80wyiHXQwugyPoT40Q0001bc75@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 24, 2002  4:34:12 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> >Anne Toal said:
> > > >After Karen's oleandER.
> > >
> > > Don't you mean "Wertz?"
> >
> >LOL. Someone's been trying to figure things out!
>
> ...or "werner"?

That's another choice, yup.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 11:04:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16342
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 11:04:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEDB7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:03:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13770670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 17:09:32 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OL9Wi12947 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:09:32 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust193.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.195]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005499349@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 17:09:31 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020724210703.A7245974B@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3F1806.736B1683@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:11:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Marie Ascher said:
> > >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > >Anne Toal said:
> > > > >After Karen's oleandER.
> > > >
> > > > Don't you mean "Wertz?"
> > >
> > >LOL. Someone's been trying to figure things out!
> >
> > ...or "werner"?
>
Gunter. Did we say Herbert? But that would be *er*er*.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 11:13:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16353
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 11:13:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0015F502@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:17:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13771063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 17:17:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OLHni14161 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:17:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8FB3C7D89; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 14:17:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724211748.8FB3C7D89@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:17:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3F1806.736B1683@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 24,
              2002  5:11:34 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > Marie Ascher said:
> > > >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > > >Anne Toal said:
> > > > > >After Karen's oleandER.
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't you mean "Wertz?"
> > > >
> > > >LOL. Someone's been trying to figure things out!
> > >
> > > ...or "werner"?
> >
> Gunter. Did we say Herbert? But that would be *er*er*.

No, *er* means that there's something before the -er- and something
after, maybe even another -er-.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 11:16:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16366
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 11:16:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEDC5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:15:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13771316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 17:20:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OLKni14701 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:20:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 32E19970D; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 14:20:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724212048.32E19970D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:20:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020724211748.8FB3C7D89@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at
              "Jul 24, 2002  2:17:48 pm"

Karen Kay said:
> alyce cresap said:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> > >
> > > Marie Ascher said:
> > > > >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > > > >Anne Toal said:
> > > > > > >After Karen's oleandER.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don't you mean "Wertz?"
> > > > >
> > > > >LOL. Someone's been trying to figure things out!
> > > >
> > > > ...or "werner"?
> > >
> > Gunter. Did we say Herbert? But that would be *er*er*.
>
> No, *er* means that there's something before the -er- and something
> after, maybe even another -er-.

Let's just call him Herbert; I can live with that.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 11:49:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16409
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 11:49:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0015F7E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:54:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13773404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 17:54:10 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OLsAi20310 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:54:10 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.4]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZRWS901.BCJ for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:52:57 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D3EA8EA.25490.12DA34C@localhost> <3D3EE4D1.84F0DAB4@valstar.net>
            <3D3EE50E.E3D4813F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
            <3D3EED3D.7E35AFA4@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3F21DB.F9E5D423@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:53:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: beware the exploding Nutella
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> And you're supposed to yell FIRE because no one would believe you if you
> yelled CHOCOLATE!

    That's the one!  It also reminded me of the Irishman who drowned at the
Guinness brewery.  8-)

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 12:02:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16427
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 12:02:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0015F8FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:07:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13774426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 18:07:15 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OM7Fi22616 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:07:15 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.4]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZRXE201.AK0 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:06:02 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D3ECC4C.6149.A0726AC@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3F24F3.B2A43777@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:06:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: interesting Canadian coin
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tony Harminc wrote:

> Interesting... I thought I remembered that the material for the US
> laminated coins was produced by duPont using some bizarre explosive
> process.

    The Munroe Effect?  That's a truely bizarre means of minting coins.

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 12:05:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16438
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 12:05:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEE029@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:03:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13774575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 18:09:40 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OM9di22942 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:09:40 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.4]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZRXI200.SF4 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:08:26 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F234CZc5knn3aA3uisg0001dd45@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3F2583.4186BF5A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:09:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blame Canada
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Anne Toal wrote:

> Say, did you know that the US FCC is forwarding radio license applications
> to their Canadian counterpart for vetting before giving US approval? At
> least they are with our application for a permit for our 2-mile
> walkie-talkies. Seems unlikely that a 2-mile handheld radio located 17 miles
> from the Mexican border would intrerfere with Canada, but that's where our
> application currently is. Apparently the Canadians complained so loudly
> about US interference, that we send certain applications to the Canadians
> for sign-off before we give final approval.
>
> Tony, could you hurry this one along for us please?

    Don't hold your breath.  I'm still waiting for him to hit a strip club and
find out how you put a loonie in a G-string.

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 12:17:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16479
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 12:17:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEE0ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:16:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13775309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 18:22:12 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OMMCi25246 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:22:12 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws175-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.175]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6OMM5716706
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:22:07 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3F2886.199F7F82@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:21:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Have I shown any pictures since my living room became a living room and
dining room a dining room?  Here are a few for anybody interested in
such matters:
http://www.maynor.net/pics.html
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 12:19:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16491
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 12:19:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEE10E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:17:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13775427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 18:23:38 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OMNci25557 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:23:38 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws175-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.175]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6OMNZ717086
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:23:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F209zxvgGqBi3Gb4B1r00005af4@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020724085641.00a0fb70@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D3EF9BD.D4E5E556@maynor.net> <3D3EFADC.56FFA452@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3F28E6.2A4E44A2@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:23:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Acadiafest
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> > Maybe I can toss her into my car and take her to Acadiafest.  That would
> > be fun.
>
> Be gentle with that toss, please.

I will be.  I wouldn't want to get choked by your tubing!

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 12:36:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16506
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 12:35:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEE1D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:34:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13775710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 18:40:34 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OMUYi26610 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:30:34 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8655FC2 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:30:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6OMUXB80744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:30:33
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020724115037.A62151@pobox.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207241504370.26215-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020724173033.A80714@pobox.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:30:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207241504370.26215-100000@og1.olagrande.net>;
              from aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET on Wed, Jul 24,
              2002 at 03:05:25PM -0500

On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 03:05:25PM -0500, Ann Borkin wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:
>
> > AKA, yet another day in tech land.
> >
> > Deliver me Jesus
>
> I don't understand
>
> -Jesus-

And now for a lifetime of avoiding lightning ...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 12:38:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16513
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 12:38:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEE201@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:37:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13775880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 18:42:57 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OMWui27107 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:32:56 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DD55E7F for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:32:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6OMWuE80781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:32:56
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207241504370.26215-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <20020724200807.7BD42806F@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020724173256.B80714@pobox.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:32:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020724200807.7BD42806F@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 01:08:07PM -0700

On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 01:08:07PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> Ann Borkin said:
> > On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:
> > > AKA, yet another day in tech land.
> > >
> > > Deliver me Jesus
> >
> > I don't understand
>
> Just more moaning from the H1B scab about how he still has a job.
>
> Karen
> a member of the long-term unemployed

It was a massacre. However, it's nice to know that it's not
necessary to moan if you have a job ...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 12:52:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16543
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 12:52:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEE29B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:51:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13776667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 18:57:19 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OMvIi30266 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:57:18 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6OMvH606782 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:57:17 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207241749030.4465-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:57:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020724173033.A80714@pobox.com>

On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:

> > > AKA, yet another day in tech land.
> > > Deliver me Jesus
> > I don't understand
> > -Jesus-
> And now for a lifetime of avoiding lightning ...

Well I got to Henry IV by googling the subject line.  However, googling on
the last line gets me only this:

... Odds are one in 3,000 that a person will be struck by lightning during
his or her
lifetime. ... The first lesson most people get in avoiding lightning ...

Google is telling me that you have just survived another
downsizing/resizing oops Rightsizing/ whatever.  Is Google right?

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 13:15:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16574
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 13:15:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0015FDC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:19:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13777247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 19:19:57 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ON9vi31935 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:09:57 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64646300 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:09:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6ON9ui82028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:09:56
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020724173033.A80714@pobox.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207241749030.4465-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020724180956.A81881@pobox.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:09:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207241749030.4465-100000@og1.olagrande.net>; from
              aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET on Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 05:57:17PM -0500

On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 05:57:17PM -0500, Ann Borkin wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:
>
> > > > AKA, yet another day in tech land.
> > > > Deliver me Jesus
> > > I don't understand
> > > -Jesus-
> > And now for a lifetime of avoiding lightning ...
>
> Well I got to Henry IV by googling the subject line.

Is life only about research? Step out ...

> However, googling on the last line gets me only this:
>
> ... Odds are one in 3,000 that a person will be struck by lightning
> during his or her lifetime. ... The first lesson most people get in
> avoiding lightning ...
>
> Google is telling me that you have just survived another
> downsizing/resizing oops Rightsizing/ whatever.  Is Google right?

That last question itself deserves multiple bolts. It's worse than
signing yourself Jesus.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 13:17:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16578
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 13:17:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0015FDE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:21:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13777531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 19:21:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ONLbi00898 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:21:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CD2FE8916; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 16:21:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724232134.CD2FE8916@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:21:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020724180956.A81881@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Jul 24,
              2002  6: 9:56 pm"

Tushar Samant said:
> That last question itself deserves multiple bolts. It's worse than
> signing yourself Jesus.

Is there such a thing as a thunderbolt? What's the difference between
thunderbolt and thunderclap?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 13:20:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16587
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 13:20:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEE3D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:19:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13777642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 19:24:57 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ONOvi01407 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:24:57 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020724232451.VZKV24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 23:24:51 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <F1753HFnwpGR881Np7v00006ae9@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020724161449.02599940@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:21:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: interesting Canadian coin
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3ECC4C.6149.A0726AC@localhost>

Tony Harminc writes,

>I thought I remembered that the material for the US laminated coins was
>produced by duPont using some bizarre explosive process.

Cool.

"... the duPont lab in NJ where, among other things, they/we developed
explosive cladding, which is how the original billets for laminated
quarters (coins) were made, and we did some explosive forming. Most of this
was done with Detasheet (spelling?) which was a sheet form of primacord.
They did some really neat stuff, including forming one inch steel plate for
boiler ends, but I haven't heard anyting about it since then. Incidentally,
this was all done under water which provided much of the needed resistance
to direct the explosion." <http://www.siletzbay.com/Bearhawk/3.1.8-Tools-Other>

Some (non-coin) pictures and diagrams:

<http://home.global.co.za/~opticore/>
<http://www.highenergymetals.com/page3.html>

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 13:35:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16605
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 13:35:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEE45F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:34:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13778163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 19:40:05 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ONe4i03700 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:40:04 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6ONe3iU022542 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:40:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020724211748.8FB3C7D89@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020724164005.00a6e9c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:40:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020724212048.32E19970D@yellow.rahul.net>

At 02:20 PM 7/24/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Karen Kay said:
> > alyce cresap said:
> > > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Marie Ascher said:
> > > > > >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > > > > >Anne Toal said:
> > > > > > > >After Karen's oleandER.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Don't you mean "Wertz?"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >LOL. Someone's been trying to figure things out!
> > > > >
> > > > > ...or "werner"?
> > > >
> > > Gunter. Did we say Herbert? But that would be *er*er*.
> >
> > No, *er* means that there's something before the -er- and something
> > after, maybe even another -er-.
>
>Let's just call him Herbert; I can live with that.

Nope. Oleander.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 13:36:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16612
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 13:36:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0015FF15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:41:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13778189 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 19:41:16 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6ONfGi03865 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          19:41:16 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id KQE01643; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:41:14 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id LAE01410; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:41:13 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <20020724212048.32E19970D@yellow.rahul.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D3EAE20.30325.10781A9@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:39:44 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020724164005.00a6e9c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On 24 Jul 2002 at 16:40, Betty wrote:

> Nope. Oleander.

Nope. Fernando.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 13:46:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16633
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 13:46:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEE4AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:44:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13778429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 19:50:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ONodi05176 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:50:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7F1FF96B6; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 16:50:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724235038.7F1FF96B6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:50:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020724164005.00a6e9c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 24, 2002  4:40:18 pm"

Betty said:
> At 02:20 PM 7/24/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Karen Kay said:
> > > alyce cresap said:
> > > > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Marie Ascher said:
> > > > > > >From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > > > > > >Anne Toal said:
> > > > > > > > >After Karen's oleandER.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Don't you mean "Wertz?"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >LOL. Someone's been trying to figure things out!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ...or "werner"?
> > > > >
> > > > Gunter. Did we say Herbert? But that would be *er*er*.
> > >
> > > No, *er* means that there's something before the -er- and something
> > > after, maybe even another -er-.
> >
> >Let's just call him Herbert; I can live with that.
>
> Nope. Oleander.

Herbert. My New Friend is turning into Oleander. Or Poison Ivy.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 13:47:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16637
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 13:47:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0015FFB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:51:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13778460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 19:51:34 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ONpYi05331 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:51:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9A7B2814F; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 16:51:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724235133.9A7B2814F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:51:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3EAE20.30325.10781A9@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at
              "Jul 24, 2002  1:39:44 pm"

Michael E. Macmillan said:
> On 24 Jul 2002 at 16:40, Betty wrote:
> > Nope. Oleander.
>
> Nope. Fernando.

That's even better! I can definitely see him as Fernando.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 13:48:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16641
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 13:48:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEE4CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:47:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13778526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 19:52:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ONqxi05597 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:52:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2F06B9579; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 16:52:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020724235253.2F06B9579@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:52:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      My day with Fernando
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Just kidding; I didn't have one. He phoned me to ask if I had his
stud-finder, and I resisted all the smartass comments you know I'm
capable of.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 13:53:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16650
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 13:53:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEE4F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:52:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13778675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 19:58:27 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ONwRi06368 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:58:27 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO00000C;
          24 Jul 02 19:58:00 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 24 Jul 02
          19:57:50 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG00000B; 24 Jul 02 19:57:45 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D3F06B9.32727.AEB5F6A@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:57:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blame Canada
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F234CZc5knn3aA3uisg0001dd45@hotmail.com>

On Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 15:05, Anne Toal wrote:

> Say, did you know that the US FCC is forwarding radio license
> applications to their Canadian counterpart for vetting before giving
> US approval? At least they are with our application for a permit for
> our 2-mile walkie-talkies. Seems unlikely that a 2-mile handheld radio
> located 17 miles from the Mexican border would intrerfere with Canada,
> but that's where our application currently is. Apparently the
> Canadians complained so loudly about US interference, that we send
> certain applications to the Canadians for sign-off before we give
> final approval.

And they chose yours, based on...? Sounds like bureaucratic bunkum to
me -- can you seriously imagine them doing this? Do they send the
ones from Buffalo, NY to Mexico for approval?

> Tony, could you hurry this one along for us please?

No problem, Anne - I'll get right on it. I wonder, though, if you
could give Mr. Ashcroft a call and get him to stop giving Canadians a
hard time at the border, would you.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 14:13:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16716
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 14:13:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00160175@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 20:18:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13779250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 20:18:07 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe38.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.95]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P0I6i08220 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 20:18:06 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          24 Jul 2002 17:18:01 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
References:  <3D3F06B9.32727.AEB5F6A@localhost>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jul 2002 00:18:01.0163 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[BC7FA1B0:01C23370]
Message-ID:  <OE38lSe9F6EBSotwBP80000663e@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:16:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blame Canada
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> me -- can you seriously imagine them doing this? Do they send the
> ones from Buffalo, NY to Mexico for approval?

We asked the FCC that very question, and the answer was that we don't deal
with Mexico on frequency issues.

> hard time at the border, would you.

Which border? ;-)

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 15:28:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16823
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 15:28:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEE8CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:27:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13781698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 21:33:19 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P1XIi15287 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:33:18 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6P1dKE12081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 03:39:20
          +0200
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020725033920.A12078@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 03:39:20 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

= http://www.maynor.net/pics.html

Oh My.  I've certainly seen pictures of Natalie's possessions
before, but this is the first time I've ever realized that I was
furnishing my house like hers.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 15:46:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16877
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 15:46:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEE970@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:44:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13782220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 21:50:42 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P1ofi18172 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:50:41 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6P1odiU025877 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:50:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020724185040.00a26990@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:50:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020725033920.A12078@yoccoz.multinix.com>

At 03:39 AM 7/25/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>= http://www.maynor.net/pics.html
>
>Oh My.  I've certainly seen pictures of Natalie's possessions
>before, but this is the first time I've ever realized that I was
>furnishing my house like hers.

You have an ugly couch??

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 16:02:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16937
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 16:02:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEEA1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:01:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13782770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 22:07:26 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P27Qi19987 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:07:26 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZS003OM8KDRS@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:07:25 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020725033920.A12078@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Message-ID:  <3D3F5CFD.3010508@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:05:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> = http://www.maynor.net/pics.html
>
> Oh My.  I've certainly seen pictures of Natalie's possessions
> before, but this is the first time I've ever realized that I was
> furnishing my house like hers.
>


I didn't realize Natalie had such fancy furniture.  I guess
I was lured in by all that talk of eaten couches, etc.  I
have the same wine glasses, I think.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 16:12:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16969
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 16:11:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001608A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:16:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13783063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 22:16:26 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P2GQi20716 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:16:26 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws47-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.47]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6P2GO712826
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:16:24 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020725033920.A12078@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3F5F76.2D4E6815@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:16:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:
>
> = http://www.maynor.net/pics.html
>
> Oh My.  I've certainly seen pictures of Natalie's possessions
> before, but this is the first time I've ever realized that I was
> furnishing my house like hers.

In what way are our furnishings alike?  Which furnishings?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 16:15:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16997
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 16:15:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEEA90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:13:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13783106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 22:19:36 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P2Jai20853 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:19:36 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws47-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.47]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6P2JX714020
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:19:33 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020724185040.00a26990@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3F6034.8D62F2F7@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:19:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:

> You have an ugly couch??

Those few pictures didn't show the ugliest couch.  It's back here in
this room, which wasn't featured in those pictures.  It's even uglier
than the one Spencer ate.  That living room picture does show the super,
super cheapo loveseat hide-a-bed of ugly colors, which I bought because
it was the only loveseat hide-a-bed in town -- the first one I found
after years of searching.  But actually there are some good things about
it.  Unlike the two full-size couch hide-a-beds in this house, the
loveseat is great about not showing doghair.  (And it is amazingly
comfortable as a bed.)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 16:19:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17010
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 16:19:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001608F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:23:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13782977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 22:23:39 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P2Ddi20470 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:13:39 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6P2DdQ4030443 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:13:39 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207242213030.658-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:13:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3F2886.199F7F82@maynor.net>

On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>http://www.maynor.net/pics.html

Natalie, you have real furniture! I never knew ...

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 16:19:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17014
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 16:19:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEEAC7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:17:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13783229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 22:23:44 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P2Nhi21141 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:23:43 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws47-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.47]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6P2Nf715361
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:23:41 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020725033920.A12078@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D3F5CFD.3010508@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3F612C.F69F0DF@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:23:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> I didn't realize Natalie had such fancy furniture.  I guess

??  Except for the ugly couches, all of my furniture is either
hand-me-down or bought from junk stores.

> I was lured in by all that talk of eaten couches, etc.  I
> have the same wine glasses, I think.

They're the cheap ones that Selby McRae, wife of Richard McRae,
discovered in France and insisted on their selling at McRae's since she
said there was a need for cheap wine glasses that looked and felt
decent.  Now all department stores have them.  I've forgotten the name.
I'm a great believer in cheap crystal since I break it.  I think we've
had this discussion before.  In fact, I tossed one glass into the
garbage while setting the table the other day because I noticed a chip
in the rim when the sun shone upon it.  I felt no qualms about tossing
it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 16:24:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17034
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 16:24:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEEB58@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:23:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13783503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 22:29:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P2T9i21805 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:29:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws47-79.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.79.47]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6P2T6716661
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:29:07 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207242213030.658-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3F6271.DE6DCD42@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:29:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> Natalie, you have real furniture! I never knew ...

I don't understand.  What was in these pictures that gives the
impression of <real furniture> any more than the zillions of others I've
shown?

Now that my batteries are recharged (they died just as I wanted to take
some pictures of the Japanese guests last night), maybe I'll take more
pictures tomorrow to show you other rooms.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 16:49:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17112
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 16:49:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00160A92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:53:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13784317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24
          Jul 2002 22:53:51 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P2roi23582 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:53:50 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6P2xqd12363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 04:59:52
          +0200
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020725045952.A12353@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 04:59:52 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

= In what way are our furnishings alike?  Which furnishings?

They're more alike in style than pieces per se, though I did
finally just buy a secretary.  My couch is the same size and
shape even though it's not a sofabed (and yes betty, there's
nothing to love anymore about the upholstery, though we once
did).  It's more about lots of loose pieces which come together
to make a whole as opposed to a wall encompassing unit with a big
couch thrown in front of it.  It's also a bit about having rooms
that are for sitting and talking and other rooms for watching tv.

My house is in transition, though, so you have to imagine
replacing say, the blue chair with one from IKEA.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 18:22:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17508
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 18:22:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEF89B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 0:20:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13793775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 00:26:36 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P4QZi01697 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 00:26:35 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6P4QYl07297 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002
          23:26:34 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020725033920.A12078@yoccoz.multinix.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <006301c23393$ae4ebcc0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 24 Jul 2002 23:28:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> = http://www.maynor.net/pics.html

Is this your house, Natalie?
These pictures are beautiful.
Charming atmosphere.  Nice stuff.

            - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 20:07:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18597
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 20:07:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEFD54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 2:05:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13797381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 02:11:33 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P61Xi09140 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 02:01:33 -0400
Received: from menudo.vt.com (root@menudo.vt.com [204.117.188.234]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P61XV01089 for
          <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 02:01:33 -0400
Received: from yadahz ([61.174.142.1]) by menudo.vt.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP
          id AAA09050 for <steph@words-l.org>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 00:45:56 -0500
          (CDT)
Received: (qmail 26632 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jul 2002 07:59:38 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO relay) (yada@aol.com@192.168.0.7) by 0 with SMTP;
          23 Jul 2002 07:59:38 -0000
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="GB2312_CHARSET"
Message-ID:  <200207250545.AAA09050@menudo.vt.com>
Date:         Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:29:07 +0800
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: yadahz@CHINA.COM
Subject:      ÑÇ´óÎªÄú·þÎñ
Comments: To: ÄúºÃ£¡@menudo.vt.com
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

ÄãºÃ£º
ÔÙÒ»´Î´òÈÅ£¬Çë¶à¼ûÁÂ£¡
ÎÒ½÷´ú±íº¼ÖÝÑÇ´óµç×ÓÓÐÏÞ¹«Ë¾È«ÌåÔ±¹¤×£Äú£ºÉíÌå½¡¿µ£¡
ÍòÊÂÈçÒâ£¡
ÎÒ¹«Ë¾×¨Òµ´ÓÊÂ¸ß¸ººÉ¡¢¸ßËÙ´òÓ¡ÁìÓòÊ®ÊýÄê£¬ÊÇÈÕÁ¢¹¤»ú´òÓ¡Éè±¸ÓÐÏÞ¹«Ë¾ÖÐ¹úÇø×Ü´úÀí¡£ÎÒ¹«Ë¾»ýÀÛ¸÷Ê½ÐÐÊ½´òÓ¡»úÎ¬ÐÞ¾­Ñé£¬ÈÕÁ¢¹¤»ú¶ÔÎÒË¾³¤ÆÚµÄ¼¼ÊõÖ§³Ö£¬¸ü¼ÓÍêÉÆÎÒ¹«Ë¾µÄ¼¼Êõ·þÎñ¶ÓÎé£¬Ê¹ÆäÄÜ½â¾ö¸÷ÖÖ´òÓ¡»úµÄ¼¼Êõ¹ÊÕÏ¡£µÃµ½ÎÒ¹«Ë¾È«¹ú¸÷µØÐÐ´òÓÃ»§µÄºÃÆÀ£¬ÒàµÃµ½ÈÕÁ¢¹¤»ú´òÓ¡»ú¼¼ÊõÖÐÐÄµÄÈÏ¿ÉºÍÔÞÍ¬¡£ÏÖÈç½ñÎÒ¹«Ë¾ÒÔ³ÉÎªÈÕÁ¢¹¤»úKDÏµÁÐÐÐÊ½´òÓ¡»ú×¨ÒµÎ¬ÐÞÖÐÐÄ£¬²»½öÈç´ËÎÒ¹«Ë¾Ò²¾ß±¸ÆäËûÏµÁÐÐÐÊ½´òÓ¡»ú£¨ÈçYDÏµÁÐ¡¢PÏµÁÐ¡¢CIÏµÁÐ¡¢IBMÏµÁÐµÈ£©µÄÎ¬ÐÞ¼°¼¼Êõ·þÎñ¡¢ºÄ²Ä¹©Ó¦µÈÒ»ÇÐÍêÉÆµÄÊÛºó·þÎñ¡£
Îª¸üºÃµÄ½â¾ö¿Í»§Æ½Ê±´òÓ¡¹ý³ÌÖÐ³öÏÖµÄ¸÷ÖÖÎÊÌâ£¬ÎÒ¹«Ë¾¼¼Êõ²¿²»¶¨ÆÚ£¬Îª¿Í»§´òÓ¡»ú½øÐÐÃâ·Ñ×ÉÑ¯£¬¼°ÉÏÃÅÑ²¼ì¡£ÎÒ¹«Ë¾µÄ¼¼ÊõÅàÑµ»î¶¯¸ü¼ÓÂú×ã¿Í»§µÄÐèÇó¡£
ÎÒ¹«Ë¾±¾×Å¿Í»§ÊÇÎÒÃÇÒ»ÇÐÐÐ¶¯µÄÖÐÐÄ£¬¿Í»§µÄÒâ¼ûÊÇÎÒ¹«Ë¾Å¬Á¦µÄ·½Ïò£¬Ê¹ÎÒÃÇÎªÄú×öµ½×îºÃ¡£ÎÒ¹«Ë¾ÏÖÓµÓÐ×ÅÖÚ¶à´òÓ¡»ú¼¼ÊõµÄ¼â¶ËÈË²Å£¬»¶Ó­ÄúÀ´µç×ÉÑ¯¸÷ÀàÐÐÊ½´òÓ¡»úµÄ¹ÊÕÏ£¬ÎÒÃÇ½«½ß³ÏÎªÄú½â¾öÒ»ÇÐÄÑÌâ¡£
×ÉÑ¯ÈÈÏß£º057188856355×ª¼¼Êõ²¿
Çý¶¯ÏÂÔØ£ºhttp://www.yadachina,com
          http://www.epochi.com
¾´×£ÉÌì÷£¡Ð»Ð»£¡
Èç¹ûÄúÒÔºó²»ÔÙÏ£ÍûÊÕµ½´ËÓÊ¼þ£¬Çë·¢MAILÖÁwchl-110@163.com.ÒÔÃâÔÙ´Î´òÈÅ£¡
±¾ÓÊ¼þ¶ÔÄúµÄ´òÈÅÎÒÔÚ´Ë±íÊ¾±§Ç¸£¡£¡£¡


º¼ÖÝÑÇ´óµç×ÓÓÐÏÞ¹«Ë¾

<p>                                                  <br>
                                    <a href="http://www.yadachina.com   " target="_blank"
style="color=rgb(0,0,255)">   Powered by yadahz       </a> </p>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 21:17:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19407
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 21:17:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00161A31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 3:21:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13799286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 03:21:22 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P7LMi14154 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 03:21:22 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4BC9>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:21:20 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4BC6; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:21:09 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020725091742.02532970@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:21:01 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Giant Sunflower
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000601c2331a$22a992e0$059af9d8@murraystate.edu>

08:58 24.07.2002 -0500 skrev Amy Burns Short:
> >I went over to do some work for Major Ingram this morning in his garden and
>he has a GIANT sunflower.  Two weeks ago when I was there it was about five
>feet tall, now it's an easy ten feet.  Wow.
>
> >jbh
>
>I so enjoyed gazing upon huge fields of sunflowers while cruising about
>Andalucia in a Seat. About time to do something like that again.

Aah. That brings back memories. Not of sunflowers since this was too late
in the year but still. We cruised around until we found Conil and decided
to stay for some days. Instead of a SEAT we drove what really looked like a
beetle, a Ford KA:

<http://home.no.net/espenore/spain99/car.jpg>

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 21:24:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19474
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 21:24:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEFEDA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 3:22:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13799356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 03:28:46 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P7Sji14471 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 03:28:45 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4BD4>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:28:44 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4BDR; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:28:41 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020725092811.02536e40@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:28:33 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Menorca
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE478MXdUj4l4pK64nr00005e26@hotmail.com>

11:08 24.07.2002 -0500 skrev Amy Burns Short:
>I really would love to visit. Here's a website of an incredible place
>shown to me by one of my summer students from Barcelona whose first
>language is Catalan:
>
>http://www.covadenxoroi.com/

And then you could taste the Mayonnaise.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 21:28:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19517
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 21:28:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEFEE7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 3:26:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13799393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 03:32:45 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P7Wii14660 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 03:32:44 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4BD0>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:32:43 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4BD6; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:32:06 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D3EE50E.E3D4813F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020725093108.02503bf0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:31:58 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: HDR
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3EAEBC.5032.1445FFF@localhost>

13:42 24.07.2002 -0400 skrev Paul R. Barfoot:
>The UNDP's 2002 Human Development Report is out.  Here are the
>best places to live:
>
>1 Norway
>2 Sweden
>3 Canada
>4 Belgium
>5 Australia
>6 USA
>7 Iceland
>8 Netherlands
>9 Japan
>10 Finland
>
>Canada was #1 last year (and a few years before that I think).  Hey
>guys, what happened?

They decided not to use the weather as one of the factors. That at least
may explain Norway's jump to fame.

Espen - after the wettest July in Norway for years

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 21:39:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19621
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 21:39:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EEFF1A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 3:37:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13799543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 03:43:34 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P7hXi15185 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 03:43:33 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4B1W>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:43:32 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4B1V; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:43:19 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020725093243.025039d8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:43:12 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Thinking of BrP
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3EEBB7.90304@swbell.net>

13:02 24.07.2002 -0500 skrev Rita Chapman:
>Today, we went down to see Bob Kramer's Marionette show in
>the Central West End.  I think I remember that Paul is
>interested in puppetry?  It was a wonderful show -- the
>marionettes are outstandingly designed and constructed.  Ana
>had a terrific time, and I just got a kick out of being a
>part of Mr. Kramer's little fantasy world for an hour or so.

And I have here a ticket from the theatrou skion in Athens. If you go to
Greece with Ana you should try to go to a performance. It is great fun even
if one doesn't know the language (and you could always do some quick
simultaneous translation for her - the plot isn't very complicated even if
Karaghiosis tries to make them so). Here is one screen shot where
Karaghiosis helps Alexander the Great in putting out a dragon's fire (or so
it seems):

<http://francoib.chez.tiscali.fr/kara/k3_page6.htm>

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 22:51:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA20340
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 22:51:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF0043@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 4:49:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13800570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 04:55:38 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P8tbi19347 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 04:55:38 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4BM0>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:55:37 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4BM9; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:55:32 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020725105502.0252c068@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:55:24 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3F2886.199F7F82@maynor.net>

17:21 24.07.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor:
>Have I shown any pictures since my living room became a living room and
>dining room a dining room?  Here are a few for anybody interested in
>such matters:
>http://www.maynor.net/pics.html

This looks very good! And I envy you your fireplace.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 22:55:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA20382
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 18 Jun 1960 22:54:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF0062@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 4:53:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13800646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 04:59:18 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P8xHi19527 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 04:59:18 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4BNJ>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:59:17 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4BN2; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:59:07 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <4.2.2.20020724164005.00a6e9c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020724212048.32E19970D@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020725105839.02549e60@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:59:00 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3EAE20.30325.10781A9@localhost>

13:39 24.07.2002 -1000 skrev Michael E. Macmillan:
>On 24 Jul 2002 at 16:40, Betty wrote:
>
> > Nope. Oleander.
>
>Nope. Fernando.

With all his Tibetan connections: Tenzin Sherpa.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 01:39:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22317
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 01:39:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF04C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 7:37:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13803428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 07:43:45 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PBXii10473 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:33:44 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6PBXiQ4030634 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:33:44 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207250732570.14321-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:33:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3F6271.DE6DCD42@maynor.net>

On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I don't understand.  What was in these pictures that gives the
>impression of <real furniture> any more than the zillions of others I've
>shown?

I have seen no other pix of your furniture.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 01:52:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22442
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 01:52:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF0590@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 7:50:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13804222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 07:56:17 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PBuHi12298 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:56:17 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws113-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.113]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6PBuE724464
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 06:56:15 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020725033920.A12078@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <006301c23393$ae4ebcc0$360332d1@0018079268>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3FE75D.B49D47A3@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 06:56:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:
>
> > = http://www.maynor.net/pics.html
>
> Is this your house, Natalie?
> These pictures are beautiful.
> Charming atmosphere.  Nice stuff.

Y'all really do have me confused.  I've posted zillions of pictures of
my house in the past, and I know that at least some of you have looked
at them because some of you have commented on them.  But nothing about
charm or nice stuff or whatever.  Anyway, thank you.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 01:55:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22474
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 01:55:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF05B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 7:53:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13804330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 07:59:31 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PBxVi12584 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:59:31 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws113-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.113]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6PBxS724953
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 06:59:28 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D3EE50E.E3D4813F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020725093108.02503bf0@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3FE81E.5CCA6C1B@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 06:59:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: HDR
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:

> They decided not to use the weather as one of the factors. That at least
> may explain Norway's jump to fame.

I was wondering when looking at the list why so many very cold places
were on it.  There must be significance of some kind.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 01:56:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22478
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 01:56:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF05BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 7:54:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13804360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 08:00:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PC0Mi12670 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:00:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B7CB9827B; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 05:00:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020725120021.B7CB9827B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 05:00:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3FE75D.B49D47A3@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 25,
              2002  6:56:13 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Y'all really do have me confused.  I've posted zillions of pictures of
> my house in the past, and I know that at least some of you have looked
> at them because some of you have commented on them.  But nothing about
> charm or nice stuff or whatever.  Anyway, thank you.

Your other pictures were awfully dark, weren't they?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 02:05:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22626
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 02:05:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF0636@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 8:04:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13804756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 08:10:08 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PCA8i13671 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:10:08 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws113-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.113]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6PC88726898
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:08:08 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020725105502.0252c068@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3FEA26.8A98D9EB@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:08:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:

> This looks very good! And I envy you your fireplace.

I didn't use it last winter because I was worried about the ash-dropping
hole.  I think we discussed that, didn't we?  There's a large opening in
the bottom of the fireplace, without even a little cover thing on it,
and here's the weird part:  it doesn't drop into an enclosed bin
designed to hold ashes -- it drops straight down to the crawl space.
Iow, ashes and burning stuff merrily fall down into a pile under the
house.  In describing it to various people, I've gotten various
responses, most agreeing with me that it sounds dangerous.  (Also, I'm
not about to go crawling under the house to clean out the ashes.  I
don't do crawl space.  Too snaky.  And speaking of snakes, what if one
comes waltzing up through that open hole in the fireplace?)  A few
people have said there's no fire risk --that the system should work
fine.  (And obviously it has been working for years.)  I had thought
about changing to gas logs, but that involves too many different
entities.  I don't want to fool with buying the logs one place, hiring a
plumber to run the gas line, and hiring somebody else to pull out the
built-in grate/grill/whatever.  So my plan now is to hire a chimney
sweep to check the chimney and to put some kind of solid sheet down over
that hole, and I'll just clean it by sweeping the ashes out into the
living room instead of through a trap door.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 02:09:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22647
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 02:09:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF0669@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 8:07:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13804989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 08:13:38 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PCDci14307 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:13:38 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws113-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.113]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6PCDZ727931
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:13:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020725120021.B7CB9827B@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3FEB6E.F8F18697@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:13:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Your other pictures were awfully dark, weren't they?

Possibly.  I find that the digital camera is always a mystery as to
whether pictures will be dark or light.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 02:28:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22908
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 02:28:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF077F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 8:26:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13805884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 08:32:38 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PCWbi17053 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:32:37 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-9.panax.com [65.114.190.9])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PCWbn20016 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:32:38 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020725082413.00b2c818@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:25:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Hey, BB!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Any pictures of you after the mandolin solo?

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 02:36:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22967
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 02:36:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF07FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 8:35:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13806185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 08:40:47 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PCeli17844 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:40:47 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10078 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:40:46 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 25 Jul 02
          08:40:46 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 25 Jul 02 08:40:33 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3FB97B.27775.2E19EA@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:40:28 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: HDR
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3FE81E.5CCA6C1B@maynor.net>

Perhaps because any place where the temp falls below 70 degrees
F. is a "very cold place" to you?

BrP




> I was wondering when looking at the list why so many very cold places
> were on it.  There must be significance of some kind.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 02:59:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA23221
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 02:59:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF0A01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 8:57:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13807590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 09:03:45 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PD3ji21393 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:03:45 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust59.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.61]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004204436@mx0.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 09:03:44 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3FF7A7.FB9B68EB@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:05:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      JMW--The chocolate story
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://tinyurl.com/ui5
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 03:06:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23316
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 03:06:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF0A7F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 9:04:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13807974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 09:10:33 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PDAWi22698 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:10:32 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19218 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:10:32 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 25 Jul 02
          09:10:31 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 25 Jul 02 09:10:31 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3FC07D.31238.1A333A@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:10:21 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: JMW--The chocolate story
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3FF7A7.FB9B68EB@valstar.net>

"...it was unknown how long he was submerged before he was found."



I think I'll refrain from buying any chocolate bars for the time being.

BrP


> http://tinyurl.com/ui5
> --
> alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 03:06:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23329
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 03:06:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF0A90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 9:05:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13808044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 09:10:52 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PDApi22825 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:10:51 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust59.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.61]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005518639@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 09:10:51 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020724232134.CD2FE8916@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3FF951.D0987352@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:12:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Tushar Samant said:
> > That last question itself deserves multiple bolts. It's worse than
> > signing yourself Jesus.
>
> Is there such a thing as a thunderbolt? What's the difference between
> thunderbolt and thunderclap?

bolt = sight, clap = sound. I cannot believe you don't know this.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 03:14:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA24452
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 03:14:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF0B4C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 9:12:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13808681 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 09:18:46 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PDIki24438 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:18:46 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust59.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.61]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005518805@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 09:18:45 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020724235133.9A7B2814F@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D3FFB2C.9A9E16CB@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:20:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
>
> That's even better! I can definitely see him as Fernando.
>
I guessed Fernando two weeks ago. I said, "Fernando, Geraldo?" and you
said not.

chopped liver

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 03:47:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA25216
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 03:46:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00162F26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 9:51:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13811817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 09:51:06 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PDp6i31252 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:51:06 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust59.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.61]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004205548@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 09:51:03 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020725105502.0252c068@victoria.nb.no>
            <3D3FEA26.8A98D9EB@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4002BB.484C3505@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:52:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

it drops straight down to the crawl space.
> Iow, ashes and burning stuff merrily fall down into a pile under the house.

Are you sure that there is no way to close this hole? THere should be a
little handle or knob so that a door or sliding thing will close while a
fire is going.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 04:53:02 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA25917
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 04:53:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00707
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:53:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF17CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:48:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13818215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 10:54:42 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f271.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.146]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PEsfB12577 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:54:41 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          25 Jul 2002 07:54:35 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 14:54:34 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jul 2002 14:54:35.0257 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[31057E90:01C233EB]
Message-ID:  <F271ptgFrYILoygXLsx000070b5@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:54:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I thought it looked comfortable. I liked the spotted chair.

-a

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 04:53:04 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA25919
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 04:53:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00650
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:46:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF16F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:41:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13817577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 10:47:10 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PElAB11185 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:47:10 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6PEl9l08521 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002
          09:47:09 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020725120021.B7CB9827B@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <002401c233ea$616d1da0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:48:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Natalie Maynor said:
> > Y'all really do have me confused.  I've posted zillions of pictures
of
> > my house in the past, and I know that at least some of you have
looked
> > at them because some of you have commented on them.  But nothing
about
> > charm or nice stuff or whatever.  Anyway, thank you.

Maybe I didn't see your pictures in the past.
I think my mind made assumptions about
what your house would look like from your
descriptions of the dog eating the sofa.

              - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 04:55:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA26022
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 04:55:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF18AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:53:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13818923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 10:59:45 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PExjB13956 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:59:45 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6PExjl22170 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002
          09:59:45 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <005801c233ec$239bb2a0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:01:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Mergers
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Hope you don't mind if I pass on something
I just received.  I guess there must be a lot
of people with time on their hands, but this
one sounds like it was fun to do.

             - D. M.

____________________________________

In the wake of the Exxon / Mobil deal and the AOL /
Time Warner implode, I  wanted to make a few
close friends aware of the next  expected mergers
so you can get in on the ground floor and make
some BIG bucks. Watch for these consolidations
in late 2002 and make yourself a  bundle.


1. Hale Business Systems, Mary Kay Cosmetics, Fuller
Brush and  W.R.Grace Co. will merge and become ...
Hale, Mary, Fuller, Grace.


2. Polygram Records, Warner Bros. and Zesta Crackers
join forces and  become ... Polly, Warner Cracker.


3. 3M will merge with Goodyear and issue forth as
MMMGood.


4. Zippo Mfg., Audi Motor Car, Dofasco and Dakota
Mining will merge  to become, of course, ZipAudiDoDa.


5. Federal Express is expected to join its major
competitor, UPS, and consolidate as FedUP


6. Fairchild Electronics and Honeywell Computers will
become Fairwell Honeychild.


7. Grey Poupon and Docker Pants are expected to become
Poupon  Pants.


8. Knotts Berry Farm and the Nat'l Org. of Women will
become Knott NOW!


That's all I have right now. Invest wisely

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 05:02:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26116
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 05:02:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF1982@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:01:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13819482 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 11:06:48 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PF6mB15270 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:06:48 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust183.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.185]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005521376@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 11:04:32 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D3F2886.199F7F82@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4013F4.BE76D39@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:06:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Have I shown any pictures since my living room became a living room and
> dining room a dining room?  Here are a few for anybody interested in
> such matters:

Apparently I alone am not surprised at Natalie's furnishings. I had
gleaned from previous pictures that her furnishings are traditional ...
and nice.

alyce

--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 05:07:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26373
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 05:06:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF1A05@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:05:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13819872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 11:11:10 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PFB9B16074 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:11:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1182A82C1; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 08:10:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020725151047.1182A82C1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:10:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3FEB6E.F8F18697@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 25,
              2002  7:13:34 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Your other pictures were awfully dark, weren't they?
>
> Possibly.  I find that the digital camera is always a mystery as to
> whether pictures will be dark or light.

Don't you preview them?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 05:10:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26561
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 05:10:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF1A84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:08:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13820313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 11:14:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PFEJB16979 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:14:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 277967F79; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 08:14:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020725151413.277967F79@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:14:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3FFB2C.9A9E16CB@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 25,
              2002  9:20:44 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > That's even better! I can definitely see him as Fernando.
> >
> I guessed Fernando two weeks ago. I said, "Fernando, Geraldo?" and you
> said not.

That's not his name, but I shall always call him Fernando from now
on. Think of it as a good idea which took a while to marinate.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 05:11:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26660
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 05:11:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0016388D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:15:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13820524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 11:15:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PFFuB17531 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:15:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 040487E0A; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 08:15:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020725151551.040487E0A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:15:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3FF951.D0987352@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 25,
              2002  9:12:49 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Tushar Samant said:
> > > That last question itself deserves multiple bolts. It's worse than
> > > signing yourself Jesus.
> >
> > Is there such a thing as a thunderbolt? What's the difference between
> > thunderbolt and thunderclap?
>
> bolt = sight, clap = sound. I cannot believe you don't know this.

How do you see thunder?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 05:15:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26893
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 05:15:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF1B4D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:14:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13821014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 11:19:47 -0400
Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PFJlB18567 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:19:47 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.161] ([208.138.31.74]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with
          ESMTP id <20020725141744.XBQH3134.mail@[208.138.31.74]> for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:17:44 -0400
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B965811A.FEED%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:19:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3FEB6E.F8F18697@maynor.net>

On 25/7/2002 7:13 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> Your other pictures were awfully dark, weren't they?
>
> Possibly.  I find that the digital camera is always a mystery as to
> whether pictures will be dark or light.

But not a mystery for very long.

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 05:17:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26987
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 05:17:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF1B75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:15:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13821196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 11:21:31 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PFLUB19067 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:21:30 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc55 ([204.127.198.44]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020725152123.ZYPR24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:21:23 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc55; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:21:21 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020725152123.ZYPR24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:21:21 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Every fireplace I've seen has had and ash dropping hole.
I cannot recall my grandparents ever using theirs, or
asking me to use their when I learned to clean out the
fireplace (what's to learn, just sweep it out!).

When I lived in Chestnut Hill I had a fireplace. I lived
on the second floor and had no idea where the ashes went
so I didn't bother to use it. I suppose I could have
asked the landlord about it but, it didn't seem important
enough.

Yours is missing its cover is certainly curious. My guess
is, it's probably a good thing you didn't take any
chances without it.

Having gas logs put in however does seem like way too
much work. Besides, I don't care what anyone says, they
are no where near as nice as a real fire!

lisa
> Espen Ore wrote:
>
> > This looks very good! And I envy you your fireplace.
>
> I didn't use it last winter because I was worried about the ash-dropping
> hole.  I think we discussed that, didn't we?  There's a large opening in
> the bottom of the fireplace, without even a little cover thing on it,
> and here's the weird part:  it doesn't drop into an enclosed bin
> designed to hold ashes -- it drops straight down to the crawl space.
> Iow, ashes and burning stuff merrily fall down into a pile under the
> house.  In describing it to various people, I've gotten various
> responses, most agreeing with me that it sounds dangerous.  (Also, I'm
> not about to go crawling under the house to clean out the ashes.  I
> don't do crawl space.  Too snaky.  And speaking of snakes, what if one
> comes waltzing up through that open hole in the fireplace?)  A few
> people have said there's no fire risk --that the system should work
> fine.  (And obviously it has been working for years.)  I had thought
> about changing to gas logs, but that involves too many different
> entities.  I don't want to fool with buying the logs one place, hiring a
> plumber to run the gas line, and hiring somebody else to pull out the
> built-in grate/grill/whatever.  So my plan now is to hire a chimney
> sweep to check the chimney and to put some kind of solid sheet down over
> that hole, and I'll just clean it by sweeping the ashes out into the
> living room instead of through a trap door.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 05:23:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27267
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 05:23:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF1C4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:21:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13821922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 11:27:20 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PFRJB20903 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:27:19 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6PFRJA25108
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:27:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020725082413.00b2c818@mail.panax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D401AC5.698804B7@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:35:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hey, BB!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:
>
> Any pictures of you after the mandolin solo?

Not funny.  The essence of Betty added to the dish, I think.  I'm going
to go visit the nursing staff soon.  Man, that thing really is razor
sharp! Larry is lamenting the fact that there is a blood on all his
wooden handled implements in the kitchen.  Well, I had to keep stirring
the pot.  How does one coordinate all this??

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 05:30:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27348
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 05:30:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF1D45@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:29:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13822727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 11:34:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PFYrB23140 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:34:53 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AE2258342; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 08:34:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020725153450.AE2258342@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:34:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020725152123.ZYPR24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> from
              Lisa Alfieri at "Jul 25, 2002  3:21:21 pm"

Lisa Alfieri said:
> Having gas logs put in however does seem like way too
> much work. Besides, I don't care what anyone says, they
> are no where near as nice as a real fire!

I think they've improved a lot; mine is quite charming, and I enjoy
it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 05:31:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27363
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 05:31:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF1D58@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:29:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13822776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 11:35:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PFZbB23259 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:35:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6CDB0830B; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 08:35:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020725153535.6CDB0830B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:35:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, BB!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D401AC5.698804B7@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 25,
              2002  8:35:33 am"

Betty said:
> "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:
> > Any pictures of you after the mandolin solo?
>
> Not funny.  The essence of Betty added to the dish, I think.  I'm going
> to go visit the nursing staff soon.  Man, that thing really is razor
> sharp! Larry is lamenting the fact that there is a blood on all his
> wooden handled implements in the kitchen.  Well, I had to keep stirring
> the pot.  How does one coordinate all this??

What did I miss?! Betty, how many fingers do you have?????

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 05:34:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27400
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 05:34:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF1D95@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:32:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13822039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 11:38:39 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PFScB21267 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:28:38 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6PFScQ4011343 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:28:38 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207251128090.7954-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:28:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hey, BB!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D401AC5.698804B7@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

>Not funny.  The essence of Betty added to the dish, I think.  I'm going
>to go visit the nursing staff soon.  Man, that thing really is razor
>sharp! Larry is lamenting the fact that there is a blood on all his
>wooden handled implements in the kitchen.  Well, I had to keep stirring
>the pot.  How does one coordinate all this??

My gosh - there's an entire novel implied there!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 05:39:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27439
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 05:39:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF1E3F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:38:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13822702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 11:43:54 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PFXsB23039 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:33:54 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6PFXrQ4013649 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:33:53 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207251129560.7954-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:33:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      ATMs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I am certain that many of you will be thrilled to know that I finally
found my Credit Union PIN and just this morning used it to withdraw cash
from one of our (no fee) Easy Street ATM machines. In keeping with my
usual practice of getting cash primarily directly from the Credit Union,
I withdrew it from an ATM on the Credit Union premises. I think this is
the very first time I have ever used one.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 05:46:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27551
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 05:46:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF1F05@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:45:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13823761 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 11:50:48 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PFolB25575 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:50:47 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6PFolA19426
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:50:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020725153535.6CDB0830B@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D402045.30333D4B@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:59:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hey, BB!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Betty said:
> > "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:
> > > Any pictures of you after the mandolin solo?
> >
> > Not funny.  The essence of Betty added to the dish, I think.  I'm going
> > to go visit the nursing staff soon.  Man, that thing really is razor
> > sharp! Larry is lamenting the fact that there is a blood on all his
> > wooden handled implements in the kitchen.  Well, I had to keep stirring
> > the pot.  How does one coordinate all this??
>
> What did I miss?! Betty, how many fingers do you have?????

Just a chuck of thumb is missing but I had nice thinly sliced pears.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 05:50:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27722
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 05:50:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF1F91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:48:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13823972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 11:54:21 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PFsLB26092 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:54:21 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6PFsLsS370024 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002
          11:54:21 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <001201c233f3$8abce560$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:54:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: ATMs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207251129560.7954-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bethany K. Dumas
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:34 AM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: ATMs
>
>
> I am certain that many of you will be thrilled to know that I finally
> found my Credit Union PIN and just this morning used it to
> withdraw cash
> from one of our (no fee) Easy Street ATM machines. In keeping with my
> usual practice of getting cash primarily directly from the
> Credit Union,
> I withdrew it from an ATM on the Credit Union premises. I
> think this is
> the very first time I have ever used one.
>
> Bethany
>

Bless your heart!

alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 05:52:01 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27776
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 05:52:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01433
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:54:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00163DAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:55:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13824022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 11:55:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PFtZB26222 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:55:35 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C7E5D80DC; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 08:55:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020725155532.C7E5D80DC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:55:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: ATMs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207251129560.7954-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 25, 2002 11:33:53 am"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> I am certain that many of you will be thrilled to know that I finally
> found my Credit Union PIN and just this morning used it to withdraw cash
> from one of our (no fee) Easy Street ATM machines. In keeping with my
> usual practice of getting cash primarily directly from the Credit Union,
> I withdrew it from an ATM on the Credit Union premises. I think this is
> the very first time I have ever used one.

Welcome to the 20th century!:)

Karen
ATM-user since the 1970's

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 05:56:01 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27824
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 05:56:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01439
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:55:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF1FDA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:50:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13824064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 11:56:19 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PFuIB26319 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:56:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D404280DC; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 08:56:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020725155615.D404280DC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:56:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, BB!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D402045.30333D4B@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 25,
              2002  8:59: 1 am"

Betty said:
> Just a chuck of thumb is missing but I had nice thinly sliced pears.

I don't think it's worth the trade-off.

Poached pears is a favorite dessert.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 06:00:03 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27874
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 06:00:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01496
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:01:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF2063@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:56:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13824552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 12:02:44 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PG2hB27781 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:02:43 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23991 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:00:49 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 25 Jul 02
          12:00:49 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 25 Jul 02 12:00:38 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D402045.30333D4B@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 25,
            2002  8:59: 1 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D3FE85C.17115.E5403A@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:00:29 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Hey, BB!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020725155615.D404280DC@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen,
 Were we separated at birth?  My all time favourite dessert is pears
poached in red wine and cinnamon.

BrP
(learning to spell like a Canadian)




>
> Poached pears is a favorite dessert.
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 06:00:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27890
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 06:00:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF208A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:59:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13824682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 12:05:03 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PG53B28156 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:05:03 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6PG52l01311 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002
          11:05:02 -0500 (CDT)
References: <20020725153535.6CDB0830B@yellow.rahul.net> 
            <3D402045.30333D4B@uclink.berkeley.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <00c501c233f5$42a04900$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:06:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, BB!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Just a chuck of thumb is missing but I had nice thinly sliced pears.
>
> Betty

Obviously you weren't using
a pearing knife.

             - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 06:05:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27972
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 06:05:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF2102@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:04:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13824306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 12:09:56 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PFxuB26995 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:59:56 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6PFxtQ4025641 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:59:55 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207251158170.7954-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:59:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ATMs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020725155532.C7E5D80DC@yellow.rahul.net>

On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>
>Welcome to the 20th century!:)

Thank you. You and alec are so kind! LOL! I think it was incredibly smart
of me earlier in life to decline to use ATMS. Retirement will be a bit
more pleasant because of that.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 06:13:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28055
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 06:13:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF224C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:11:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13826204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 12:17:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PGHDB30443 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:17:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AD4BB8281; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 09:17:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020725161710.AD4BB8281@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:17:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, BB!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D3FE85C.17115.E5403A@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              25, 2002 12: 0:29 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> Karen,
>  Were we separated at birth?  My all time favourite dessert is pears
> poached in red wine and cinnamon.

I think I'm going to stop posting and just let you say everything for
me.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 06:13:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28069
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 06:13:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF2261@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:12:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13826279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 12:17:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PGHoB30580 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:17:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E01D98281; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 09:17:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020725161744.E01D98281@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:17:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: ATMs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207251158170.7954-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 25, 2002 11:59:55 am"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> I think it was incredibly smart
> of me earlier in life to decline to use ATMS. Retirement will be a bit
> more pleasant because of that.

Why?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 06:18:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28175
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 06:18:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001640F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:23:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13826848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 12:23:06 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PGN5B31835 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:23:05 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust121.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.123]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004209290@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 12:23:05 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020725151551.040487E0A@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D40265D.D2D9D753@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:25:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
>
> How do you see thunder?

I think that thunderbolt and lightning bolt are the same thing. Aren't
they?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 06:21:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28221
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 06:21:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF233B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:19:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13827097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 12:25:34 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PGPYB32342 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:25:34 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust121.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.123]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004209335@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 12:25:33 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207251129560.7954-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4026F1.F6F3D0FF@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:27:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: ATMs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> I am certain that many of you will be thrilled to know that I finally
> found my Credit Union PIN and just this morning used it to withdraw cash
> from one of our (no fee) Easy Street ATM machines. In keeping with my
> usual practice of getting cash primarily directly from the Credit Union,
> I withdrew it from an ATM on the Credit Union premises. I think this is
> the very first time I have ever used one.

Thanks for this information. Please keep us posted on your further use
of your card.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 06:27:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28303
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 06:27:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF23BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:26:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13826640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 12:31:52 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PGLqB31325 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:21:52 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6PGLpQ4004621 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:21:51 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207251219490.7954-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:21:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ATMs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020725161744.E01D98281@yellow.rahul.net>

On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> I think it was incredibly smart
>> of me earlier in life to decline to use ATMS. Retirement will be a bit
>> more pleasant because of that.
>
>Why?

We've done this before - It took me a long time to learn to manage
spending. Declining to use ATMS was a money management/budgeting technique
for me for a long time. It has not been a necessary one in recent
years. but since I normally go to the creidt union more than once a week
for other reasons, I have usually obtained cash there.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 06:30:02 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28324
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 06:30:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01868
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:32:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF23E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:27:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13827612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 12:33:36 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PGXaB00965 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:33:36 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6PGXZsS510910 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002
          12:33:35 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  7bit
Message-ID:  <000201c233f9$05faf000$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:33:35 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      FW: cowboys
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Three men are sittin' on a bench.  One's a Texan wearing a Stetson,
one's a
Muslim terrorist wearing a turban and the last, an Apache with an eagle
feather woven in his hair.

 The Indian is rather glum and says, "Once my people were many, but now
we
are few."

 The Muslim terrorist puffs up and says, "Once my people were few, but
now we
are many millions."

 The Texan adjusts his hat, finishes rolling a smoke, leans back in his
chair
and drawls, "That's 'cause we ain't played cowboys and Muslims yet."

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 06:41:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28475
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 06:41:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0016432A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:45:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13827808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 12:45:25 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PGZPB01357 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:35:25 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6PGZOQ4010614 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:35:24 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207251235090.7954-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:35:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: FW: cowboys
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000201c233f9$05faf000$48305b80@EAGLE72>

On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Alec D. Plotkin wrote:

> The Texan adjusts his hat, finishes rolling a smoke, leans back in his
>chair
>and drawls, "That's 'cause we ain't played cowboys and Muslims yet."

Yes!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 07:10:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28905
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 07:10:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001645EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:14:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13830446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 13:14:10 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PHE9B06589 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:14:09 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc57 ([204.127.198.46]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020725171403.CBHH26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:14:03 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc57; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:14:02 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020725171403.CBHH26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:14:02 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>mine is quite charming, and I enjoy it.
>Karen


And that is what matters most.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 07:49:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29454
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 07:49:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001649C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:53:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13833355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 13:53:29 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PHrSB12151 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:53:28 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-30.panax.com
          [65.114.190.30]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6PHrSn16858 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002
          13:53:28 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020725082413.00b2c818@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020725134114.00b40df0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:46:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hey, BB!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D401AC5.698804B7@uclink.berkeley.edu>

At 08:35 AM 7/25/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:
> >
> > Any pictures of you after the mandolin solo?
>
>Not funny.  The essence of Betty added to the dish, I think.  I'm going
>to go visit the nursing staff soon.  Man, that thing really is razor
>sharp!

Yeah---I've avoided the temptation to get one---I do enough damage to
myself with regular knives and graters.  Were you using the "pusher"?

>Larry is lamenting the fact that there is a blood on all his
>wooden handled implements in the kitchen.  Well, I had to keep stirring
>the pot.  How does one coordinate all this??

Rule 1.  Stop the bleeding (or at least get it under control).  Put ice
directly on the cut (also works for small burns).  We usually have a
container of adhesive bandages in the kitchen.

You can always take the pot off of the heat (or turn the heat way down)
until you apply the bandage/tourniquet, etc.  Then stir with your undamaged
hand.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 07:49:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29460
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 07:49:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001649C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:53:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13833360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 13:53:30 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PHrUB12159 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:53:30 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-30.panax.com
          [65.114.190.30]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6PHrUn16874 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002
          13:53:30 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D3FF951.D0987352@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020725134755.00b4cd80@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:49:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020725151551.040487E0A@yellow.rahul.net>

At 08:15 AM 7/25/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
> > bolt = sight, clap = sound. I cannot believe you don't know this.
>
>How do you see thunder?

First, one attains an understanding of one thunder clapping; then it
becomes easy to see thunder bolting.

Max-Tze

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 08:17:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29900
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 08:17:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF3039@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:16:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13835797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 14:21:51 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PILpg17326 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:21:51 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6PILoj03264
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:21:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020725082413.00b2c818@mail.panax.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020725134114.00b40df0@mail.panax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4043AC.FCABBD7D@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:30:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hey, BB!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:
>
> At 08:35 AM 7/25/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:
> > >
> > > Any pictures of you after the mandolin solo?
> >
> >Not funny.  The essence of Betty added to the dish, I think.  I'm going
> >to go visit the nursing staff soon.  Man, that thing really is razor
> >sharp!
>
> Yeah---I've avoided the temptation to get one---I do enough damage to
> myself with regular knives and graters.  Were you using the "pusher"?

Unfortunately, no. I didn't realize the razor was so high.  When I've
watched Larry do it, he always used the pusher.
>
> >Larry is lamenting the fact that there is a blood on all his
> >wooden handled implements in the kitchen.  Well, I had to keep stirring
> >the pot.  How does one coordinate all this??
>
> Rule 1.  Stop the bleeding (or at least get it under control).  Put ice
> directly on the cut (also works for small burns).  We usually have a
> container of adhesive bandages in the kitchen.
>
> You can always take the pot off of the heat (or turn the heat way down)
> until you apply the bandage/tourniquet, etc.  Then stir with your undamaged
> hand.

All of our first aid supplies were locked up in the RV.  It's under
control now.  I have a much more professional dressing on my thumb.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 09:10:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00748
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 09:10:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF35CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:08:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13839997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 15:14:08 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PJE8g25540 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:14:08 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZT00J69K3JAM@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:14:07 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020725033920.A12078@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D3F5CFD.3010508@swbell.net> <3D3F612C.F69F0DF@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D404DA0.5020109@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:12:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>I didn't realize Natalie had such fancy furniture.  I guess
>>
>
> ??  Except for the ugly couches, all of my furniture is either
> hand-me-down or bought from junk stores.


That doesn't mean anything regarding fanciness.


>
>>I was lured in by all that talk of eaten couches, etc.  I
>>have the same wine glasses, I think.
>>
>
> They're the cheap ones that Selby McRae, wife of Richard McRae,
> discovered in France and insisted on their selling at McRae's since she
> said there was a need for cheap wine glasses that looked and felt
> decent.  Now all department stores have them.  I've forgotten the name.
> I'm a great believer in cheap crystal since I break it.  I think we've
> had this discussion before.  In fact, I tossed one glass into the
> garbage while setting the table the other day because I noticed a chip
> in the rim when the sun shone upon it.  I felt no qualms about tossing
> it.


Nope, not the same then.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 10:14:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01493
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 10:14:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF3C93@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:13:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13845532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 16:18:54 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe65.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.200]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PKIr604825 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:18:54 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          25 Jul 2002 13:18:48 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.154.5]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jul 2002 20:18:48.0445 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[7C066AD0:01C23418]
Message-ID:  <OE65Y2MMBW4kltLHrK9000055fe@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:18:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

What are some suggestions to achieve total relaxation? I'm about to finish
my summer term and have about three weeks before the fall semester begins
....


AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 10:22:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01614
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 10:22:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF3D72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:20:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13846174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 16:26:39 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PKQd606035 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:26:39 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10568 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:25:43 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 25 Jul 02
          16:25:43 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 25 Jul 02 16:25:26 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D402670.22240.1D7C6AE@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:25:21 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE65Y2MMBW4kltLHrK9000055fe@hotmail.com>

What works for me:

Walking in the woods
A canoe on a glass-smooth lake very early in the morning
The sound of the ocean, a waterfall, a lake

There's a pattern here - get as far from "civilization" as possible

or, there's always alcohol
j/k

BrP




> What are some suggestions to achieve total relaxation? I'm about to finish
> my summer term and have about three weeks before the fall semester begins
> ....
>
>
> AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 10:40:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01818
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 10:40:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00165CD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:44:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13847583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 16:44:37 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f114.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.114]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PKib609015 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:44:37 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          25 Jul 2002 13:44:32 -0700
Received: from 129.113.170.21 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 20:44:31 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.21]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jul 2002 20:44:32.0034 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[14136820:01C2341C]
Message-ID:  <F114qgStMVhEUsebmsp0000006e@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:44:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Being a 16 year old on summer vacation.

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 09:52:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01281
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 09:52:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4537@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:20:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13852398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 17:26:21 -0400
Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6PLQK616844 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002
          17:26:20 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6PLQJa424702 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul
          2002 17:26:19 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEHEFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:25:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE65Y2MMBW4kltLHrK9000055fe@hotmail.com>

Get out in nature. Get some sun. I'd consider getting a lot of quiet time to
yourself. Go for some good walks.

Just when does  a walk become a hike?

Sandra
>
> What are some suggestions to achieve total relaxation? I'm about to finish
> my summer term and have about three weeks before the fall semester begins
> ....
>
>
> AS
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 09:53:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01293
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 09:53:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4555@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:21:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13852512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 17:27:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PLRY617092 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:27:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4255D8065; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 14:27:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020725212718.4255D8065@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:27:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020725171403.CBHH26053.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> from
              Lisa Alfieri at "Jul 25, 2002  5:14: 2 pm"

Lisa Alfieri said:
> >mine is quite charming, and I enjoy it.
> >Karen
>
>
> And that is what matters most.

Indeed.

I was kind of dubious about the gas grill, but I'm getting used to
that. It's not as bad as I feared. The gas fireplace I was VERY
dubious about, but I really really like it. The logs are not as dumb
looking as I expected gas fireplaces to be.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 09:58:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01329
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 09:58:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF45A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:26:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13852942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 17:32:10 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PLWA618475 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:32:10 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc70 ([204.127.198.53]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020725213204.RLYS24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:32:04 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc70; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:32:02 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020725213204.RLYS24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:32:02 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The most relaxing time I've ever spent has been away from
my normal surroundings in a uncrowded area for a couple days.

The uncrowded area was ptown in the off season. It was
the end of March, the weather was surprisingly warm and
only a few people, mostly year rounders, were out and about.

At this time of year, I'd go anywhere I could be some
place different but alone.

lisa
> What are some suggestions to achieve total relaxation? I'm about to finish
> my summer term and have about three weeks before the fall semester begins
> ....
>
>
> AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 09:59:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01357
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 09:59:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0016628E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:33:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13853018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 17:33:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PLXu618741 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:33:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EF18A7E0A; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 14:33:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020725213355.EF18A7E0A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:33:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE65Y2MMBW4kltLHrK9000055fe@hotmail.com> from Amy Burns Short at
              "Jul 25, 2002  3:18:43 pm"

Amy Burns Short said:
> What are some suggestions to achieve total relaxation? I'm about to finish
> my summer term and have about three weeks before the fall semester begins

Hammock.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 10:05:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01406
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 10:05:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4620@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:33:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13852676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 17:39:10 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PLTA617638 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:29:10 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33A68455 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:29:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6PLT9q97327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:29:09
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020723183604.B56846@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020725162909.G55952@pobox.com>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:29:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Citicorp's tasteless campaign
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020723183604.B56846@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on
              Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 06:36:04PM -0500

On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 06:36:04PM -0500, Tushar Samant wrote:
> I hate Citicorp's tasteless new Live Rich campaign--well it's
> many months old, but--all this "if you say time is money you
> are insulting time", "hey read the stock pages but don't forget
> the comics", "remember when PE meant <some damn game>?"
>
> Man it pisses me off.

`CEO [of Citigroup] Sanford Weill took home more than $482
million between 1998 and 2000. In 2001 he made another $42
million. Weill's stock compensation plan was amazingly equipped
with a "reload" feature: Each time Weill cashed in his options,
he automatically received new options to replace them. [...] The
Federal Trade Commission has brought suit against Citigroup,
alleging abusive lending practices; if all charges are proven,
Citigroup's liabilities could reach $500 million.'

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 10:10:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01451
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 10:10:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001663AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:44:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13854001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 17:44:58 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PLiw621098 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:44:58 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-75.panax.com
          [65.114.190.75]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6PLiwn29631 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002
          17:44:58 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <OE65Y2MMBW4kltLHrK9000055fe@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020725174425.00a22960@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:44:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEHEFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

>Just when does  a walk become a hike?
>Sandra

When it's over rough terrain.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 10:20:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01540
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 10:20:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF474A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:48:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13854608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 17:54:33 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PLsW622454 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:54:33 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-30.panax.com
          [65.114.190.30]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6PLsWn31155 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002
          17:54:33 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEHEFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <OE65Y2MMBW4kltLHrK9000055fe@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020725175146.00b57810@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:54:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020725174425.00a22960@pop3.norton.antivirus>

At 05:44 PM 7/25/2002 -0400, bonnie wrote:
>>Just when does  a walk become a hike?
>>Sandra
>
>When it's over rough terrain.

Concur.  We take walks into the village or on the carriage roads or
flatland paths/trails.  Hikes are up and down, over rocks and tree roots,
and often require some use of hands and arms to negotiate the trail.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 10:23:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01598
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 10:23:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4799@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:52:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13854842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 17:57:57 -0400
Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6PLvv622783 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002
          17:57:57 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6PLvua43128 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002
          17:57:56 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEHHFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:57:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020725174425.00a22960@pop3.norton.antivirus>

That works for me.

Sandra


>
>
> >Just when does  a walk become a hike?
> >Sandra
>
> When it's over rough terrain.
>
>
>     --bonniev
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 10:44:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01774
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 10:44:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4983@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:13:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13856573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 18:18:53 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PMIr626184 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:18:53 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws138-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.138]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6PMIp703058
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:18:51 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D40791B.935A084F@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:18:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Lots of Pictures
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Y'all (and my newly charged batteries) inspired me to take a bunch of
pictures a little while ago.  They're here:

http://www.msstate.edu/Archives/Words-L/7-25-02/

Note the fine quality of the bookshelves along the hall.  Those in the
junk room also.  The junk room, btw, was looking pretty good not long
ago, but then I brought a trunkload of stuff back from Hville and piled
it all in there until I have time to sort through it.  The junk room is
so named because it's where I stick things while deciding their fate,
not because everything in it is junk.  Many of the things in it are
important to me.

Re the bookshelves in the hall, I had started placing the concrete
blocks with the solid sides facing out but suddenly realized that
turning them so the openings were out was an excellent idea since it
allows lots of room for various <relics>.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 10:51:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01877
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 10:51:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4A25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:19:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13856892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 18:25:30 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PMPU627159 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:25:30 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws138-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.138]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6PMPR704638
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:25:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D3FB97B.27775.2E19EA@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D407AD7.175F58C1@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:25:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: HDR
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> Perhaps because any place where the temp falls below 70 degrees
> F. is a "very cold place" to you?

> > I was wondering when looking at the list why so many very cold places
> > were on it.  There must be significance of some kind.

I don't remember the whole list now, but my fuzzy memory is that the
only countries I would not call <cold countries> were Belgium, USA,
Japan, and Australia.  All the others, iirc, were at very high
latitudes.  I guess Canada wouldn't be on the super cold list if you
consider the fact that a huge majority of the population is on the
southern border.  The southern part of Australia would presumably be
much colder.  But I'm thinking about whole countries.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 10:52:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01882
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 10:52:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4A30@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:20:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13856931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 18:26:37 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PMQb627257 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:26:37 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws138-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.138]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6PMQY704956
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:26:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020725105502.0252c068@victoria.nb.no>
            <3D3FEA26.8A98D9EB@maynor.net> <3D4002BB.484C3505@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D407B1A.FEC599B2@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:26:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> it drops straight down to the crawl space.
> > Iow, ashes and burning stuff merrily fall down into a pile under the house.
>
> Are you sure that there is no way to close this hole? THere should be a
> little handle or knob so that a door or sliding thing will close while a
> fire is going.

Nope.  No door over it.  But I don't want to have ashes piled up under
the house even if there's no safety problem.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 10:54:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01904
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 10:54:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4A44@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:22:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13856995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 18:28:05 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PMS5627427 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:28:05 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws138-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.138]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6PMS2705373
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:28:02 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020725120021.B7CB9827B@yellow.rahul.net>
            <002401c233ea$616d1da0$360332d1@0018079268>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D407B71.BB3D5364@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:28:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:

> what your house would look like from your
> descriptions of the dog eating the sofa.

Spencer is getting much better about not eating furniture.  Buddy,
however, has a habit of scratching floors and rugs as if he's searching
for gold.  He's making streaks in the rugs.  He's done that as long as
I've known him -- has scratched furiously on the floor.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 10:55:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01908
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 10:55:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4A50@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:23:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13857025 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 18:29:10 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PMTA627507 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:29:10 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws138-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.138]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6PMT4705669
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:29:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020725151047.1182A82C1@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D407BB0.9814098A@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:29:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > Possibly.  I find that the digital camera is always a mystery as to
> > whether pictures will be dark or light.
>
> Don't you preview them?

No.  I just click and then dump onto the computer.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 11:00:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01985
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 11:00:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001667A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:34:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13857272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 18:34:11 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PMYB628291 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:34:11 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws138-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.138]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6PMY9706863
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:34:10 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020725152123.ZYPR24728.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D407CE1.5E543D1C@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:34:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lisa Alfieri wrote:
>
> Every fireplace I've seen has had and ash dropping hole.

Every fireplace I've known personally has also, but the ashes dropped
into an ash-holder which was emptied by opening a little door on the
outside of the chimney.  This is my first experience with ashes that
simply pile up in the crawl space.

> Yours is missing its cover is certainly curious. My guess
> is, it's probably a good thing you didn't take any
> chances without it.

I don't think it's ever had a cover.  I've learned that some fireplaces
are simply made this way.

> Having gas logs put in however does seem like way too
> much work. Besides, I don't care what anyone says, they
> are no where near as nice as a real fire!

But they are certainly easier.  I didn't build all that many fires in my
previous house because bringing wood in was too much trouble.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 11:05:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02065
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 11:05:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4ADA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:34:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13857120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 18:39:54 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PMTs627732 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:29:54 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6PMTrQ4024223 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:29:53 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207251829140.24784-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:29:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Lots of Pictures
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D40791B.935A084F@maynor.net>

On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>http://www.msstate.edu/Archives/Words-L/7-25-02/

Cool. I am getting ideas.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 11:08:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02096
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 11:08:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4AED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:36:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13857556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 18:42:20 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6PMgJ629188 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:42:20 -0400
Received: from hppav (216.249.158.66) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex 6.5.007)
          id 3D0A97040017FBAE for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Jul 2002
          17:38:36 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <004201c2342c$c4b81940$429ef9d8@hppav>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:43:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

-aht

> Being a 16 year old on summer vacation.

:). Or a couple of 32 year olds?

Seriously, I've rarely gone for the young stuff, even when I was young.

The one striking exception was my former spouse -- eight years younger. But
that aspect was not a factor in the attraction nor the breakup.

AS, who prefers a gentleman of experience

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 11:12:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02137
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 11:12:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4B3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:41:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13857847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 18:47:01 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PMl0630185 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:47:00 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws86-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.86]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6PMkw709475
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:46:58 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020725212718.4255D8065@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D407FB3.7F304FEB@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:46:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> that. It's not as bad as I feared. The gas fireplace I was VERY
> dubious about, but I really really like it. The logs are not as dumb
> looking as I expected gas fireplaces to be.

I think it's almost impossible to tell by looking whether a fireplace is
burning wood or has gas logs (assuming that they're good gas logs, as
many if not most are these days).  The only way I can tell the
difference is by sound and smell -- or by sight if I stare intensely at
it for a long time and don't see parts of logs breaking off, etc.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 11:18:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02210
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 11:18:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4B82@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:46:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13858133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 18:52:29 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6PMqS631044 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:52:28 -0400
Received: from hppav (216.249.158.66) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex 6.5.007)
          id 3D0A97040017FCBD for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Jul 2002
          17:48:45 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <005301c2342e$301333e0$429ef9d8@hppav>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:54:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

BrP:

>Walking in the woods

Easily done anytime here. Right now, too many chiggers and snakes. Also, the
climate is at its suckiest now.

>A canoe on a glass-smooth lake very early in the morning

Also fine, but too much work.

>The sound of the ocean, a waterfall, a lake

The lake is about 10 miles away.


>There's a pattern here - get as far from "civilization" as possible

True enough. I'm pretty far away usually.


>or, there's always alcohol

A wee bit, perhaps, in the right environment.

I was thinking of going to Olympia, Washington. Then I was thinking of going
to Cleveland (cousins in both places). Right now I feel too worn out to make
any kind of trip, but may do so anyway. My son enters kindergarten full time
Aug. 2. I may opt for several days of day spa action (I have a gift
certificate I may upgrade), interspersed with a rendezvous or two.

Thanks for all the ideas.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 11:19:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02218
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 11:19:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001668E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:53:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13857662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 18:53:42 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PMhg629454 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:43:42 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6PMhfQ4027394 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:43:41 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207251841220.24784-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:43:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE65Y2MMBW4kltLHrK9000055fe@hotmail.com>

On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Amy Burns Short wrote:

>What are some suggestions to achieve total relaxation? I'm about to finish
>my summer term and have about three weeks before the fall semester begins

My spa week would have worked for me. Lots of exercise (workouts,
swimming, hiking in the Smokies, etc.), a few leisurely meals in pleasant
places with friends, enough sleep, maybe a few movies. And at least one
massage.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 11:20:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02222
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 11:20:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4BA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:48:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13858258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 18:54:15 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6PMsF631365 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:54:15 -0400
Received: from hppav (216.249.158.66) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex 6.5.007)
          id 3D0A97040017FCF3 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Jul 2002
          17:50:35 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <005b01c2342e$71ae8d40$429ef9d8@hppav>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:55:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lisa:

>At this time of year, I'd go anywhere I could be some place different but
alone.

Bingo. This is my general rule of thumb.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 11:24:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02244
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 11:24:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4BC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:52:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13858395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 18:58:21 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PMwK631765 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:58:20 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws86-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.86]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6PMwH712128
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:58:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <005301c2342e$301333e0$429ef9d8@hppav>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D408289.4BDDCC13@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:58:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:

> >Walking in the woods
>
> Easily done anytime here. Right now, too many chiggers and snakes. Also, the
> climate is at its suckiest now.

That's kind of what I was thinking when somebody recommended something
about getting out in the sun.  My reaction to that was "in the middle of
summer??"

> any kind of trip, but may do so anyway. My son enters kindergarten full time
> Aug. 2. I may opt for several days of day spa action (I have a gift
> certificate I may upgrade), interspersed with a rendezvous or two.

That sounds good to me.  But then what sounds good to me now isn't
necessarily what sounded good to me when I was your age.  I used to love
zipping off to wherever at every opportunity.  Now I like the idea of
some free time at home.  But I do think your local spa action sounds
good.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 11:26:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02251
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 11:26:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4BFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:54:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13858074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 19:00:30 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PMoU630828 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:50:30 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6PMo8Q4028904 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:50:29 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207251848520.24784-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:49:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D407FB3.7F304FEB@maynor.net>

On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I think it's almost impossible to tell by looking whether a fireplace is
>burning wood or has gas logs (assuming that they're good gas logs, as
>many if not most are these days).  The only way I can tell the
>difference is by sound and smell -- or by sight if I stare intensely at
>it for a long time and don't see parts of logs breaking off, etc.

For me, sound and smell are a large part of the reason to have a
fireplace. If all one wants is heat, there are much better ways to get
that.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 11:31:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02288
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 11:31:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4C37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:59:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13858716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 19:05:31 -0400
Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6PN5V632430 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:05:31 -0400
Received: from hppav (216.249.158.66) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex 6.5.007)
          id 3D0A97040017FE1D for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Jul 2002
          18:01:50 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <007601c23430$03d720a0$429ef9d8@hppav>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:07:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie:

>That sounds good to me.  But then what sounds good to me now isn't
necessarily what sounded good to me when I was your age.  I used to love
zipping off to wherever at every opportunity.

Of course. That's what I did during my 20s and 30s. Now I have Master Carl
to consider. He shall be entering the evil portals of public education next
week. I need to be around. I may take off for a few days during the third
week. My mother will stand in for me here.

>Now I like the idea of some free time at home.

Yes. So do I.

>But I do think your local spa action sounds good.

I think so too. I got a gift certificate for a massage for being president
of the parents' group of Carl's preschool last year. Nice!

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 12:29:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02566
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 12:29:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4F18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:58:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13861212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 20:03:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q03n606569 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:03:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 11B8A7FCC; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 17:03:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020726000346.11B8A7FCC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:03:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D407BB0.9814098A@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 25,
              2002  5:29: 4 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > Possibly.  I find that the digital camera is always a mystery as to
> > > whether pictures will be dark or light.
> >
> > Don't you preview them?
>
> No.  I just click and then dump onto the computer.

Well, I suspect that this is where the mystery lies.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 12:36:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02583
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 12:36:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00166DA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:10:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13861371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 20:10:20 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q0AK607062 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:10:20 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust80.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.82]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004219760@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 20:10:19 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020725105502.0252c068@victoria.nb.no>
            <3D3FEA26.8A98D9EB@maynor.net> <3D4002BB.484C3505@valstar.net>
            <3D407B1A.FEC599B2@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4093EB.82A40483@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:12:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> Nope.  No door over it.  But I don't want to have ashes piled up under
> the house even if there's no safety problem.

Then put a piece of iron over the hole and use the fireplace, sweep out
the ashes, and don't use the hole.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 12:39:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02614
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 12:38:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4F60@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:07:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13861487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 20:13:00 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q0D0607328 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:13:00 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust80.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.82]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005533838@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 20:12:58 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020725212718.4255D8065@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D407FB3.7F304FEB@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D40948A.CF3BDA7@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:15:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> I think it's almost impossible to tell by looking whether a fireplace is
> burning wood or has gas logs (assuming that they're good gas logs, as
> many if not most are these days).  The only way I can tell the
> difference is by sound and smell -- or by sight if I stare intensely at
> it for a long time and don't see parts of logs breaking off, etc.
>
Surely gas logs look like gas logs. A real fire changes its appearance
and shape every minute. It gets smaller. Gas logs stay always the same
size, and yes, I have seen good ones.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 12:50:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02629
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 12:50:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4FC5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:18:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13861879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 20:24:16 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q0OG608436 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:24:16 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws215-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.215]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6Q0OD701527
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:24:14 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020725105502.0252c068@victoria.nb.no>
            <3D3FEA26.8A98D9EB@maynor.net> <3D4002BB.484C3505@valstar.net>
            <3D407B1A.FEC599B2@maynor.net> <3D4093EB.82A40483@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4096A7.1E39A646@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:24:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> > Nope.  No door over it.  But I don't want to have ashes piled up under
> > the house even if there's no safety problem.
>
> Then put a piece of iron over the hole and use the fireplace, sweep out
> the ashes, and don't use the hole.

That is precisely what I said I plan to do. :-)

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 12:53:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02636
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 12:53:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF4FDE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:21:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13861953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 20:27:04 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q0R4608623 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:27:04 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws215-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.215]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6Q0R1702091
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:27:01 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020725212718.4255D8065@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D407FB3.7F304FEB@maynor.net> <3D40948A.CF3BDA7@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D409755.9FD3B48B@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:27:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Surely gas logs look like gas logs. A real fire changes its appearance
> and shape every minute. It gets smaller. Gas logs stay always the same
> size, and yes, I have seen good ones.

As I said, if I look at the fireplace for a long time, I can tell
whether it's gas.  But not if I look at it for a short time.

I'm sure I've told before about how my mother had to hide the fireplace
tools after they moved to Hville and had gas logs because Daddy kept
poking the gas fire.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 15:18:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02862
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 15:18:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF55D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 22:46:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13867934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 22:52:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q2qI624879 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 22:52:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AFE537E10; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 19:52:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020726025217.AFE537E10@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:52:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Talking cock
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/article/0,13673,501020729-322685,00.html

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 15:33:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02880
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 15:33:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001678EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:07:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13871685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 23:07:03 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q373627413 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:07:03 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZU00JDE5ZQ9B@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 25 Jul 2002 22:07:02 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
Message-ID:  <3D40BAC9.8070307@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:58:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Another poem published.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://wtp62.com/rbr.htm

Oh, btw, for "complete relaxation" this year, we're going to
a little resort in Steeleville, MO where they feed you,
entertain the kids, and don't allow TVs, 'puters, phones,
etc. I plan to read and write lots of poetry.  And probably
do lascivious things with my spouse while the children are
occupied elsewhere. YMMV.


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 15:42:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02898
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 15:42:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF5C13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:10:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13872565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 23:16:24 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q3GO628215 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:16:24 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust186.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.188]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004222329@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 25
          Jul 2002 23:16:22 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D40BAC9.8070307@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D40BF86.7A0AF338@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:18:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Another poem published.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> http://wtp62.com/rbr.htm
>
Yay!

alyce


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 17:05:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03027
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 17:05:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF61B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 0:33:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13877058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 00:39:12 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q4dB603213 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 00:39:11 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6Q4dAok016804 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:39:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020725213914.00a84330@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:39:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Another poem published.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D40BAC9.8070307@swbell.net>

At 09:58 PM 7/25/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>http://wtp62.com/rbr.htm

Congratulations!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 20:16:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03260
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 20:16:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0016860A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 3:49:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13882943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 03:49:50 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q7nn617307 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 03:49:50 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4DB5>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:49:48 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4DBZ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:49:47 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <OE65Y2MMBW4kltLHrK9000055fe@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020726094538.00beca30@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:49:39 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D402670.22240.1D7C6AE@localhost>

16:25 25.07.2002 -0400 skrev Paul R. Barfoot:
>What works for me:
>
>Walking in the woods
>A canoe on a glass-smooth lake very early in the morning
>The sound of the ocean, a waterfall, a lake
>
>There's a pattern here - get as far from "civilization" as possible

We are going out with kayaks again tomorrow (and we are trying ou single
kayaks since there is no K2 available). I believe it is not just a question
of getting away from civilization but also of what one is doing or not
doing. Go somewhere abd canp or rent a cabin or something and make it so
that you can run on your own schedule - and go hiking or canoing or
kayaking or in some ways even better: go sailing and don't use a motor,
just depend on the wind.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 20:21:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03271
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 20:21:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0016863B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 3:55:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13883007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 03:55:40 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q7te617607 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 03:55:40 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4DCC>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:55:39 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4DCB; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:55:38 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020726095451.026d3a30@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:55:31 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Lots of Pictures
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D40791B.935A084F@maynor.net>

17:18 25.07.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor:

>Re the bookshelves in the hall, I had started placing the concrete
>blocks with the solid sides facing out but suddenly realized that
>turning them so the openings were out was an excellent idea since it
>allows lots of room for various <relics>.

Very good - and so are the dogeyes.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 20:23:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03275
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 20:23:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF680D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 3:51:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13883016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 03:56:52 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q7up617644 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 03:56:51 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4DCJ>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:56:50 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4DC2; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:56:47 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D3FB97B.27775.2E19EA@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020726095615.00bf2c20@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:56:40 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: HDR
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D407AD7.175F58C1@maynor.net>

17:25 25.07.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor:
>I don't remember the whole list now, but my fuzzy memory is that the
>only countries I would not call <cold countries> were Belgium, USA,
>Japan, and Australia.  All the others, iirc, were at very high
>latitudes.  I guess Canada wouldn't be on the super cold list if you
>consider the fact that a huge majority of the population is on the
>southern border.  The southern part of Australia would presumably be
>much colder.  But I'm thinking about whole countries.

There are some pretty cold areas in the USA.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 20:48:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03312
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 20:48:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00168742@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 4:22:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13883520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 04:22:36 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q8MZ619495 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 04:22:35 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4DDT>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:22:34 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4DDS; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:22:33 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020726102157.00bf88b8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:22:25 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Another poem published.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D40BAC9.8070307@swbell.net>

21:58 25.07.2002 -0500 skrev Rita Chapman:
>http://wtp62.com/rbr.htm

Very good, congratulations!

>Oh, btw, for "complete relaxation" this year, we're going to
>a little resort in Steeleville, MO where they feed you,
>entertain the kids, and don't allow TVs, 'puters, phones,
>etc. I plan to read and write lots of poetry.  And probably
>do lascivious things with my spouse while the children are
>occupied elsewhere. YMMV.

:-)

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 22:44:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03611
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 22:44:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00168BBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 6:17:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13885754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 06:17:47 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QAHl627422 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 06:17:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws71-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.71]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6QAHj711676
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 05:17:45 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020726095451.026d3a30@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4121C9.D3D1696E@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 05:17:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lots of Pictures
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:

> Very good - and so are the dogeyes.

I can't figure out where there are only three dogeyes.  Camera angle, I
guess.  Meanwhile, I forgot to put on the list one of the study pictures
I'd uploaded.  I just added it as something like Study 6.  It was this
one:
http://www.msstate.edu/Archives/Words-L/7-25-02/bb.jpg

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 22:45:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03623
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 22:45:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00168BCF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 6:19:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13885783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 06:19:44 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QAJh627528 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 06:19:43 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws71-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.71]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6QAJf711977
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 05:19:41 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D3FB97B.27775.2E19EA@localhost>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020726095615.00bf2c20@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D41223D.F57C64C8@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 05:19:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: HDR
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:

> There are some pretty cold areas in the USA.

Yes.  But, like Australia, I don't put it on my "cold countries" list
because most of it isn't very close to the arctic circle.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 23:03:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA03642
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 19 Jun 1960 23:03:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF6B73@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 6:31:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13885903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 06:36:56 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f188.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.188]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QAQu628084 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 06:26:56 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          26 Jul 2002 03:26:50 -0700
Received: from 194.7.105.71 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 10:26:50 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [194.7.105.71]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2002 10:26:50.0719 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[F43946F0:01C2348E]
Message-ID:  <F188sH4y1A8TB3XrhTg0001604d@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:26:50 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen:

>Just more moaning from the H1B scab about how he still has a job.

I still think your anger should be directed towards the real
culprits (the employers/corporations). My prediction is that
in another 10 years tech jobs will become like manufacturing
jobs--a good chunk will be located outside the US.

>a member of the long-term unemployed

Still focussed on the tech sector, or are you also looking for
non-tech-writing jobs? How's that market? Not many H1Bs there,
I'd guess.

Karen has the best attitude of all the *-term unemployed I know.

-rashmi



_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 01:10:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03769
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 01:10:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF70B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 8:38:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13880879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 08:44:24 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QCiO623821 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 08:44:24 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4DVY>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:44:23 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4DVX; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:44:18 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020726144303.03247ad8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:44:11 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Relaxed - not relaxed
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F188sH4y1A8TB3XrhTg0001604d@hotmail.com>

I'm off to Ikea. That is not a relaxing thing to do IMO. But tomorrow we
are off kayaking and that is!

Espen - shutting down until Monday

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 01:35:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03798
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 01:35:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF72F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 9:03:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13882774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 09:09:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QD9O628997 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:09:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 24AB37F43; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 06:09:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020726130914.24AB37F43@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 06:09:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F188sH4y1A8TB3XrhTg0001604d@hotmail.com> from Rashmi Murthy at
              "Jul 26, 2002 10:26:50 am"

Rashmi Murthy said:
> Karen:
> >Just more moaning from the H1B scab about how he still has a job.
>
> I still think your anger should be directed towards the real
> culprits (the employers/corporations).

Oh, is is, believe me. It's just that Tushar is convenient. And he can
take the heat.

> My prediction is that
> in another 10 years tech jobs will become like manufacturing
> jobs--a good chunk will be located outside the US.

Uh, I think this is already true.

> >a member of the long-term unemployed
>
> Still focussed on the tech sector, or are you also looking for
> non-tech-writing jobs?

I'm looking at anything that will use my skills. The job I recently
interviewed for was not a writing job.

> How's that market? Not many H1Bs there, I'd guess.

I don't know why you'd guess that. Where do you think I got my
attitude toward them from?

> Karen has the best attitude of all the *-term unemployed I know.

Thank you! It's a very depressing business.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 01:55:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03818
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 01:55:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF7487@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 9:23:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13883750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 09:29:15 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QDTF631141 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:29:15 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust80.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.82]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005544282@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 09:29:12 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D414F24.E5921F70@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:31:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      clean joke
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

A man and his wife are awakened at 3:00 a.m. by a loud pounding on their
front door. The man gets up, stumbles downstairs, and opens the door.

Standing in the pouring rain is a strange man who is clearly inebriated.

" Hey mishter," says the drunk, "can I trouble you fur'a push?"

"Not a chance," says the husband. "It's raining and it's three in the
morning!"  He slams the door and returns to bed.

"Who was that?" asks his wife.

"Just some drunk asking for a push," he answers.

"Did you help him?" she asks.

"No, I did not!  It's the middle of the night and it's pouring rain!"

"You have a short memory," says his wife. "Remember last month when our
car broke down and those two guys helped us?  You should be ashamed.  I
think you should help this poor man.

So the husband gets dressed, goes out into the rain, and calls into the
dark, "Hello, are you still there?"

"Yes, I am," replies the drunk.

"Do you still need a push?" calls out the husband.

"Yes, I do."

"Well, where are you?"

"I'm over here," says the drunk, "on the swing."

alyce
--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 02:17:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03854
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 02:17:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF76B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 9:45:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13884825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 09:51:07 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f96.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.96]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QDf6601365 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:41:06 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          26 Jul 2002 06:41:01 -0700
Received: from 194.7.105.71 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 13:41:00 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [194.7.105.71]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2002 13:41:01.0323 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[14865DB0:01C234AA]
Message-ID:  <F96NyvKhtI7K4fKRxdM00015f00@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:41:00 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen:

>Oh, is is, believe me. It's just that Tushar is convenient. And he can
>take the heat.

No problem with that. But it seems the truly culpable don't get
enough of the heat.

> > My prediction is that
> > in another 10 years tech jobs will become like manufacturing
> > jobs--a good chunk will be located outside the US.

>Uh, I think this is already true.

Nah, I think it's just getting started. So far it's been haphazard
and kinda experimental. The process is not streamlined yet.

>I don't know why you'd guess that. Where do you think I got my
>attitude toward them from?

I had no idea H1Bs had flooded the non-tech-writing writing world.

>Thank you! It's a very depressing business.

Chin up, girlfriend.

-rashmi



_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 02:39:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03883
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 02:39:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00169AF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:13:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13887047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 10:13:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QEDO606881 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:13:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C89B1830E; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 07:12:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020726141244.C89B1830E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 07:12:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F96NyvKhtI7K4fKRxdM00015f00@hotmail.com> from Rashmi Murthy at
              "Jul 26, 2002  1:41: 0 pm"

Rashmi Murthy said:
> Karen:
> >Oh, is is, believe me. It's just that Tushar is convenient. And he can
> >take the heat.
>
> No problem with that. But it seems the truly culpable don't get
> enough of the heat.

>From me, or in general? You're only seeing part of my railing and
ranting here.:) But I agree that it's not the people with visas who
are the problem.

> >I don't know why you'd guess that. Where do you think I got my
> >attitude toward them from?
>
> I had no idea H1Bs had flooded the non-tech-writing writing world.

Some people have hired them preferentially, because they are cheaper.

> >Thank you! It's a very depressing business.
>
> Chin up, girlfriend.

One of my friends has been unemployed for a year and a half. She's had
several interviews, but was always second choice. Her husband was a VP
at E-bay, and got laid off after THREE WEEKS, about three months after
she got laid off. Last fall, he got a contract at a startup, and in
May, they started negotiating a staff contract. They had pretty much
come to terms, and Jeff was just waiting for the paperwork to go
through--and yesterday he was told that it wouldn't. And it just so
happens that his contract hours were up yesterday. So they are back to
square one.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 02:57:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03903
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 02:57:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF7BF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:24:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13889465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 10:30:45 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QEUj612359 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:30:45 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust80.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.82]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005545280@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 10:30:44 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020726130914.24AB37F43@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D415D8F.A91F9FB3@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:32:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

soomebody wrote:
>
> > Still focussed on the tech sector, or are you also looking for
> > non-tech-writing jobs?

Microsoft announces it will hire 5,000 bodies in the next two years.

alyce

--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 03:09:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03927
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 03:09:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF7D5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:37:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13890597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 10:43:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QEhD614995 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:43:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 042607D36; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 07:43:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020726144311.042607D36@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 07:43:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D415D8F.A91F9FB3@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 26,
              2002 10:32:47 am"

alyce cresap said:
> soomebody wrote:
Rashmi
> > > Still focussed on the tech sector, or are you also looking for
> > > non-tech-writing jobs?
>
> Microsoft announces it will hire 5,000 bodies in the next two years.

They can have my body, but they can't have my soul!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 03:09:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03931
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 03:09:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF7D64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:37:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13890627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 10:43:29 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QEhS615064 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:43:28 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06925 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:43:28 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 26 Jul 02
          10:43:28 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 26 Jul 02 10:43:01 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D4127AF.29932.6AB5AF@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:42:57 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      take the Pope Quiz
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D415D8F.A91F9FB3@valstar.net>

http://cbc.ca/news/features/catholic/quiz.html

I only got 10 out of 25

BrP
-foolishly heading to Toronto this weekend, not to see the Pope but
another gentleman of Polish descent

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 03:13:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA04977
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 03:13:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF7DB3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:40:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13890845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 10:46:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QEkc615639 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:46:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D36BB7D06; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 07:46:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020726144637.D36BB7D06@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 07:46:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: take the Pope Quiz
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4127AF.29932.6AB5AF@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              26, 2002 10:42:57 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> http://cbc.ca/news/features/catholic/quiz.html
>
> I only got 10 out of 25

I think I got 0.

> -foolishly heading to Toronto this weekend, not to see the Pope but
> another gentleman of Polish descent

Why 'foolishly'?

Karen
thinking of foolishly going out in the sun to play in the yard

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 03:16:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA04994
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 03:16:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF7E39@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:44:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13891221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 10:50:26 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QEoQ616381 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:50:26 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust80.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.82]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005545638@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 10:50:25 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020726144637.D36BB7D06@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D41622C.2BCE6549@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:52:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: take the Pope Quiz
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Why 'foolishly'?

Perhaps crowded with pope-watchers?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 03:36:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05398
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 03:36:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF8052@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:04:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13892822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 11:10:21 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QFAK620001 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:10:20 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17995 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:10:11 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 26 Jul 02
          11:10:12 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 26 Jul 02 11:09:52 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D4127AF.29932.6AB5AF@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul   
            26, 2002 10:42:57 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D412DF9.3265.B310A1@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:09:46 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: take the Pope Quiz
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020726144637.D36BB7D06@yellow.rahul.net>

because there will be an extra half million people in Steve's
neighbourhood

BrP


> Why 'foolishly'?
>
> Karen
> thinking of foolishly going out in the sun to play in the yard

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 03:43:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05402
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 03:43:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0016A14C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:17:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13893475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 11:17:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QFH4621577 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:17:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 358C57F22; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 08:17:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020726151703.358C57F22@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 08:17:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: take the Pope Quiz
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D412DF9.3265.B310A1@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              26, 2002 11: 9:46 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> because there will be an extra half million people in Steve's
> neighbourhood

You really are practicing.:)

Okay. I was thinking that Toronto was large enough that the effect
would be localized, but if it's really his neighbourhood--then you are
foolish.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 03:48:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05437
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 03:48:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF8178@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:16:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13893762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 11:22:19 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QFMJ622257 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:22:19 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22180 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:22:18 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 26 Jul 02
          11:22:18 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 26 Jul 02 11:22:17 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D412DF9.3265.B310A1@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul    
            26, 2002 11: 9:46 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D4130E1.14826.BE6B9B@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:22:10 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: take the Pope Quiz
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020726151703.358C57F22@yellow.rahul.net>

> Paul R. Barfoot said:
> > because there will be an extra half million people in Steve's
> > neighbourhood
>
> You really are practicing.:)

yup

>
> Okay. I was thinking that Toronto was large enough that the effect
> would be localized, but if it's really his neighbourhood--then you are
> foolish.:)
>
> Karen


The Downsview site, where the stage and altar are set up for
Sunday's mass Mass, is less than a mile from Steve's house.  He
did say, however, that most of the pilgrims will be arriving by public
transit and that it shouldn't be too bad.


BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 04:10:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05459
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 04:10:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF83AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:38:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13895614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 11:43:57 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QFhv626236 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:43:57 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZV00BLS518HC@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:43:56 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D40BAC9.8070307@swbell.net> <3D40BF86.7A0AF338@valstar.net>
Message-ID:  <3D416DDC.5060806@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:42:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Another poem published.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>>http://wtp62.com/rbr.htm
>>
>>
> Yay!
>


        Thank you, Alyce :).





--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 04:25:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05483
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 04:25:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF8510@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:53:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13896739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 11:58:50 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QFwn629049 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:58:49 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6QFwna24961
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 08:58:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F188sH4y1A8TB3XrhTg0001604d@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4173AC.F13753F5@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:07:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rashmi Murthy wrote:
>
> Karen:
>
> >Just more moaning from the H1B scab about how he still has a job.
>
> I still think your anger should be directed towards the real
> culprits (the employers/corporations). My prediction is that
> in another 10 years tech jobs will become like manufacturing
> jobs--a good chunk will be located outside the US.

Thank you, Rashmi. That was getting to be old and tired.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 04:27:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05494
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 04:27:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0016A56D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:00:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13896900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 12:00:46 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QG0k629494 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:00:46 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 370A6812B; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 09:00:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020726160045.370A6812B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:00:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4173AC.F13753F5@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 26,
              2002  9: 7: 8 am"

Betty said:
> Rashmi Murthy wrote:
> >
> > Karen:
> >
> > >Just more moaning from the H1B scab about how he still has a job.
> >
> > I still think your anger should be directed towards the real
> > culprits (the employers/corporations). My prediction is that
> > in another 10 years tech jobs will become like manufacturing
> > jobs--a good chunk will be located outside the US.
>
> Thank you, Rashmi. That was getting to be old and tired.

Pot, kettle.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 05:54:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA05656
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 05:54:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF8D09@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:22:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13902674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 13:28:12 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QHSB610792 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:28:11 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005548507@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 13:28:11 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D418724.EC207367@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:30:12 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      smile, please
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Dentist Accused of Killing Orthodontist Hubby
Fri Jul 26,11:17 AM ET

HOUSTON (Reuters) - A Texas dentist has been charged with killing her
orthodontist husband by repeatedly running over him with her Mercedes
Benz,
police say.

The couple had been arguing in a Houston hotel before the alleged attack
on
Wednesday night in which David Harris, 44, was struck three times as he
tried to get into his own car, they said.

Clara Harris, 44, told reporters after she was arrested: "It was an
accident."

A photo of the pair taken in happier times and posted on the Internet
showed
both had perfect smiles.
--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 06:05:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA05677
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 06:05:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0016AEC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:38:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13903309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 13:38:48 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f295.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.170]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QHcm612269 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:38:48 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          26 Jul 2002 10:38:42 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri,
          26 Jul 2002 17:38:42 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2002 17:38:42.0943 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[491CE0F0:01C234CB]
Message-ID:  <F295R7OlWSskple9tkC000197a6@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:38:42 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rooms
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
>Lisa Alfieri wrote:
> > Every fireplace I've seen has had and ash dropping hole.
>
>Every fireplace I've known personally has also, but the ashes dropped
>into an ash-holder which was emptied by opening a little door on the
>outside of the chimney.  This is my first experience with ashes that
>simply pile up in the crawl space.

I don't think my upstairs fireplace has a place for the ashes. We just sweep
them into a pan and throw them out.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 07:07:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05789
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 07:07:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0016B635@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:41:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13907503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 14:41:10 -0400
Received: from panther.mail.utk.edu (panther.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QIfA620896 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:41:10 -0400
Received: from webmail.utk.edu (abbott.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.169]) by
          panther.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6QIf8I4017799
          (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168
          verify=FAIL) for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002
          14:41:08 -0400
X-WebMail-UserID:  dumasb
X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002286
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.08
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <3D48B4B2@webmail.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:41:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Another poem published.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://wtp62.com/rbr.htm

Nice! VERY nice!

Thanks,
Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:07:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05908
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 08:07:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF9A96@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:35:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13912034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 15:41:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QJfDn31781 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:41:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 218707FE3; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 12:41:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020726194112.218707FE3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:41:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

So the last time I made those blueberry pies, I used a refrigerated
piecrust--I think the same one you did. This was strictly for
time-saving purposes, but I have to say that it was good enough that I
would definitely use it again.

The only problem I had was that the first piecrust cracked along the
'fault lines' of the fold in the crust. How did you get around this?
(The second time,  I took the excess piecrust and smushed it over the
cracks in the foundation. Fernando and I ate the cracked one.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:11:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05924
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 08:11:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF9B03@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:39:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13912254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 15:44:53 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QJirn32421 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:44:53 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29317 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:44:52 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 26 Jul 02
          15:44:52 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 26 Jul 02 15:44:50 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D416E70.4555.1AEEA04@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:44:49 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020726194112.218707FE3@yellow.rahul.net>

Wet the edges slightly.  Overlap slightly. Press gently.

BrP
(not Marieber, but I knew the answer anyway)


> So the last time I made those blueberry pies, I used a refrigerated
> piecrust--I think the same one you did. This was strictly for
> time-saving purposes, but I have to say that it was good enough that I
> would definitely use it again.
>
> The only problem I had was that the first piecrust cracked along the
> 'fault lines' of the fold in the crust. How did you get around this?
> (The second time,  I took the excess piecrust and smushed it over the
> cracks in the foundation. Fernando and I ate the cracked one.)
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:18:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05945
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 08:18:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF9C26@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:46:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13912922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 15:52:03 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QJq2n01386 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:52:02 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01450 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:49:51 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 26 Jul 02
          15:49:51 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 26 Jul 02 15:49:21 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D416F7B.18951.1B30058@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:49:16 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      gone until wednesday
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020726194112.218707FE3@yellow.rahul.net>

Going nomail.
Heading north.
One of these times I won't be back.

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:19:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05952
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 08:19:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF9C3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:47:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13912097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 15:53:03 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QJh3n32091 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:43:03 -0400
Received: from kavlino_mail.kavli.no (mail1.kavli.no [217.68.102.210]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QJh3V09030 for
          <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:43:03 -0400
Received: from mail.zapo.net (dsc04.dai-tx-3-231.rasserver.net
          [205.184.133.231]) by kavlino_mail.kavli.no with SMTP (Microsoft
          Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id PVVF5QL5; Fri,
          26 Jul 2002 21:38:45 +0200
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <0000653b1be2$0000235f$0000581e@mail.zapo.net>
Date:         Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:41:09 -1700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Term Life Quote <quotem9@ZAPO.NET>
Subject:      What your Life Insurance CO does NOT WANT you to know..
              MWMZX
Comments: To: insurance.4.members@pasta.cc.uga.edu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

<HTML><BODY text=3D#ffffff vLink=3D#FFCC99 link=3D#FFCC99 bgColor=3D#000000=
><FORM action=3D"mailto:speedyquote@excite.com?subject=3D Insurance Quote =
Request" method=3DPOST encType=3Dtext/plain><TABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cellPad=
ding=3D0 width=3D592 border=3D0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=3Dbottom width=3D592=
><P><p align=3Dleft><img border=3D0 src=3Dhttp://207.36.45.96/head2.jpg wi=
dth=3D600 height=3D130></p></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D592 bgcolor=3D#C0C0C0=
><P><CENTER>&nbsp;</CENTER><P></P><P><CENTER><TABLE cellSpacing=3D2 cellPa=
dding=3D10 width=3D480 border=3D0><TBODY><TR><TD bgcolor=3D#FFFFFF><CENTER=
><p><FONT face=3DCentury color=3D#000000 style=3D"font-size: 16pt">S</FONT=
><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2 color=3D#000000>ince 1996, term life insuranc=
e rates have been </FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000000><u><font size=3D=
2>reduced</font></u><font size=3D2> by as much as <b>70%</b> </font><b><i>=
<font size=3D2>!</font></i></b></FONT></p><p><b><FONT face=3DArial color=3D=
#3366FF>40 year old male - $250,000 - 10 year level term<BR> <u>As low as =
$10.45 per month</u> <i>!</i></FONT></b></p></CENTER><P></P><P><font color=
=3D#000000 face=3DCentury style=3D"font-size: 16pt">A</font><font color=3D=
#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>t TermQuotes Life Insurance Companies of Ame=
rica, we will survey the top life insurance companies for you and provide =
you with the best rates available. Compare the rates and see for yourself.=
 Fill out this quick form below for further information.</font></P><P alig=
n=3Dcenter><b><font color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>The quote is</fo=
nt><font color=3D#000000 face=3DArial><i> </i></font><font face=3DArial co=
lor=3D#3366FF><u>FREE</u></font><font color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D=
2>. There is </font><font face=3DArial size=3D2 color=3D#3366FF>no obligat=
ion</font><font color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2> to buy.</font></b><=
/P><P><CENTER><font color=3D#000000><FONT face=3DArial size=3D-2>Results o=
f computer survey 05-09-02<BR></FONT><B> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D-1>Samp=
le Annual Premiums<BR>* 10 Year Level Premium Term Rates *</FONT></B></fon=
t><BR><TABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D2 width=3D490 border=3D0><TBODY=
><TR align=3Dright><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D10% bgColor=3D#=
3366FF><B><FONT face=3DARIAL>Age</FONT></B></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dm=
iddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#3366FF><B><FONT face=3DARIAL>$250,000</FONT><=
/B></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#3366FF><B><=
FONT face=3DARIAL>$500,000</FONT></B></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle =
width=3D20% bgColor=3D#3366FF><B><FONT face=3DARIAL>$1,000,000</FONT></B><=
/TD></TR><TR align=3Dright><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D10% bgC=
olor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>35</FONT></b></TD><TD=
 vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3D=
ARIAL color=3D#000000>$115</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle =
width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$175</=
FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699F=
F><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$305</FONT></b></TD></TR><TR align=
=3Dright><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D10% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b>=
<FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>45</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop alig=
n=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#00=
0000>$210</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgCol=
or=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$375</FONT></b></TD><TD=
 vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3D=
ARIAL color=3D#000000>$670</FONT></b></TD></TR><TR align=3Dright><TD vAlig=
n=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D10% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL=
 color=3D#000000>55</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D=
20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$500</FONT></b=
></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FO=
NT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$935</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=
=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000=
000>$1,370</FONT></b></TD></TR><TR align=3Dright><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3D=
middle width=3D10% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000=
>65</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#=
6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$1,305</FONT></b></TD><TD vAl=
ign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARI=
AL color=3D#000000>$2,550</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle w=
idth=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$4,920<=
/FONT></b></TD></TR><TR align=3Dright><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle widt=
h=3D10% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>70</FONT><=
/b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><=
FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$2,265</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop a=
lign=3Dmiddle width=3D20% bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D=
#000000>$4,480</FONT></b></TD><TD vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D20% =
bgColor=3D#6699FF><b><FONT face=3DARIAL color=3D#000000>$7,510</FONT></b><=
/TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR> <font color=3D#000000><FONT face=3DArial siz=
e=3D-2>*Above rates guaranteed to remain level for 10 years<BR>Rates based=
 on male preferred class 1 non-smoker <BR>Policies are guaranteed renewabl=
e to age 95</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><BR>Policies with 15, 20, 25=
, and 30 year level premiums also available.</FONT></font></CENTER><P></P>=
<P><CENTER><FONT size=3D1 color=3D#000000 face=3DArial>Universal Life, Sec=
ond-to-Die and Estate Planning products also provided.</FONT><p><B><FONT c=
olor=3D#990000 face=3DArial>Attention All Smokers:</FONT><FONT color=3D#ff=
0000 face=3DArial><BR></FONT> <FONT color=3D#3366FF face=3DArial>You may q=
ualify for special <u>reduced</u> smoker rates!</FONT></B></p></CENTER></T=
D></TR></TBODY></TABLE></CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE height=3D=
308 cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 width=3D600 border=3D0><TBODY><TR><TD =
width=3D600 height=3D170 bgcolor=3D#3366FF><P><CENTER><TABLE cellSpacing=3D=
2 cellPadding=3D0 width=3D600 align=3Dcenter background=3D"" border=3D0><C=
APTION align=3Dtop><font face=3DArial><B><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D4>Su=
bmit This Form for a </FONT><FONT size=3D4><u>Free</u></FONT><FONT color=3D=
#000000 size=3D4> Term Insurance Quote <i>!</i></FONT></B></font></CAPTION=
><TBODY><TR align=3Dmiddle><TD><P><CENTER><TABLE cellSpacing=3D2 cellPaddi=
ng=3D0 width=3D95% border=3D0 height=3D568><TBODY><TR><TD width=3D549 heig=
ht=3D23><b>Name Insured:</b>&nbsp; <INPUT size=3D25 name=3D"NAME " value=3D=
" "></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D23>Amount of Coverage:&nbsp;&nb=
sp; <SELECT name=3D"COVERAGE " size=3D1> <OPTION value=3D$250,000>$250,000=
<OPTION value=3D$300,000>$300,000<OPTION value=3D$400,000>$400,000<OPTION =
value=3D$500,000 selected>$500,000<OPTION value=3D$600,000>$600,000<OPTION=
 value=3D$700,000>$700,000<OPTION value=3D$800,000>$800,000<OPTION value=3D=
$900,000>$900,000<OPTION value=3D$1,000,000>$1,000,000</OPTION></SELECT></=
TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D23>Date of Birth: Month <SELECT name=3D=
"MONTH "> <OPTION value=3D01 selected>01<OPTION value=3D02>02<OPTION value=
=3D03>03<OPTION value=3D04>04<OPTION value=3D05>05<OPTION value=3D06>06<OP=
TION value=3D07>07<OPTION value=3D08>08<OPTION value=3D09>09<OPTION value=3D=
10>10<OPTION value=3D11>11<OPTION value=3D12>12</OPTION></SELECT>&nbsp; Da=
y <SELECT name=3D"DAY "> <OPTION value=3D01 selected>01<OPTION value=3D02>=
02<OPTION value=3D03>03<OPTION value=3D04>04<OPTION value=3D05>05<OPTION v=
alue=3D06>06<OPTION value=3D07>07<OPTION value=3D08>08<OPTION value=3D09>0=
9<OPTION value=3D10>10<OPTION value=3D11>11<OPTION value=3D12>12<OPTION va=
lue=3D13>13<OPTION value=3D14>14<OPTION value=3D15>15<OPTION value=3D16>16=
<OPTION value=3D17>17<OPTION value=3D18>18<OPTION value=3D19>19<OPTION val=
ue=3D20>20<OPTION value=3D21>21<OPTION value=3D22>22<OPTION value=3D23>23<=
OPTION value=3D24>24<OPTION value=3D25>25<OPTION value=3D26>26<OPTION valu=
e=3D27>27<OPTION value=3D28>28<OPTION value=3D29>29<OPTION value=3D30>30<O=
PTION value=3D31>31</OPTION></SELECT> Year <INPUT maxLength=3D4 size=3D4 v=
alue=3D19 name=3D"YEAR "></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D21>Sex:&nb=
sp; Male <INPUT type=3Dradio CHECKED value=3D" male " name=3D"SEX "> Femal=
e <INPUT type=3Dradio value=3D" female " name=3D"SEX "></TD></TR><TR><TD w=
idth=3D549 height=3D23>Height:&nbsp; FT<INPUT size=3D3 name=3D"FT "> in <I=
NPUT size=3D3 name=3D"IN "></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D23>Weigh=
t:&nbsp; lbs.<INPUT size=3D3 name=3D"LB.  " value=3D" "></TD></TR><TR><TD =
width=3D549 height=3D26>Occupation:&nbsp; <INPUT name=3D"OCCUPATION " size=
=3D20 value=3D" "></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D19><b><font color=
=3D#3366FF>xxx</font></b></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D19><b>Have=
 You Ever Had:</b></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D21>High Blood Pre=
ssure:&nbsp; Yes <INPUT type=3Dradio value=3D" yes " name=3D" HIGH BLOOD P=
RESSURE? " ?>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; No <INPUT type=3Dradio value=3D=
" no " name=3D" HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE? " checked></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D5=
49 height=3D21>Heart Attack or Stroke:&nbsp; Yes <INPUT type=3Dradio value=
=3D" yes " name=3D"HEART ATTACK OR STROKE?  " ?>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; No <INPUT type=3Dradio value=3D" no " name=3D"HEART ATTACK OR STROKE?=
  " checked></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D21>Cancer:&nbsp; Yes <I=
NPUT type=3Dradio value=3D" yes " name=3D"CANCER "?>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; No <input type=3Dradio name=3D"CANCER " value=3D" no " checked></=
TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D21>Diabetes:&nbsp; Yes <INPUT type=3D=
radio value=3D" yes " name=3D"DIABETES ">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; No=
 <INPUT type=3Dradio value=3D" no " name=3D"DIABETES " checked></TD></TR><=
TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D21>Have You&nbsp; Smoked Within the Last 12 Mo=
nths:&nbsp; Yes <INPUT type=3Dradio value=3D" yes " name=3D"SMOKED IN 12 M=
ONTHS? ">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; No <INPUT type=3Dradio value=3D" n=
o " name=3D"SMOKED IN 12 MONTHS? " checked></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 h=
eight=3D19><font color=3D#3366FF>xxx</font></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 h=
eight=3D23><b>Person Completing Request:</b>&nbsp; <INPUT size=3D40 name=3D=
"PERSON COMPLETING REQUEST " value=3D" "></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 hei=
ght=3D20>Mailing Address:&nbsp; <TEXTAREA name=3D"STREET " rows=3D1 cols=3D=
40> </TEXTAREA></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D23>City:&nbsp; <INPU=
T size=3D28 name=3D"CITY " value=3D" ">State <INPUT size=3D3 name=3D"STATE=
  " value=3D" "> Zip <INPUT size=3D11 name=3D"ZIP " value=3D" "></TD></TR>=
<TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D23>Daytime Phone:&nbsp; <INPUT size=3D19 name=
=3D"DAY PHONE " value=3D" "></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D23>Even=
ing Phone:&nbsp;&nbsp; <INPUT size=3D19 name=3D"EVENING PHONE " value=3D" =
"></TD></TR><TR><TD width=3D549 height=3D23>Email Address:&nbsp;&nbsp; <IN=
PUT maxLength=3D50 size=3D20 name=3D"EMAIL  " value=3D" "></TD></TR><TR><T=
D width=3D549 height=3D23>Best time to contact: <select size=3D1 name=3D"B=
EST TIME TO CONTACT "> <option selected value=3D" Morning">Morning</option=
> <option value=3D" After noon">After noon</option> <option value=3D" Even=
ing">Evening</option> <option value=3D" Weekend">Weekend</option> </select=
></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><INPUT type=3Dsubmit value=3D"Submit "><p><b><f=
ont size=3D2 face=3DArial>When you click submit it may activate your spell=
 check, please click &quot;Ignore&quot; if it does.</font></b></p></CENTER=
></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></CENTER></TD><TD align=3Dmiddle width=3D1 heig=
ht=3D170></TD><TD align=3Dmiddle width=3D1 height=3D170></TD></TR></TBODY>=
</TABLE></FORM>&nbsp; <br><div align=3Dcenter><center><table border=3D1 st=
yle=3D"border-collapse: collapse" width=3D600 id=3DAutoNumber1 height=3D12=
5 cellspacing=3D0 cellpadding=3D0 align=3Dleft><tr><td width=3D598 align=3D=
center height=3D21><font size=3D1 color=3D#FFCC99>YOUR INTERNET ADVERTISIN=
G Copyright 1996-2002. All Rights Reserved</font></td></tr><tr><td width=3D=
598 height=3D16><p align=3Dcenter><font face=3DArial size=3D4 color=3D#91D=
F6A>&nbsp;</font><font face=3DArial size=3D4 color=3D#008000>This could be=
 your ad!</font></td></tr><tr><td width=3D598 height=3D11><p align=3Dcente=
r><font color=3D#FFCC99 size=3D2 face=3DArial><a href=3D"mailto:clearquote=
@excite.com?subject=3DDirect Marketing Inquiry">Email Us</a>&nbsp;for free=
 quotes and consultations.</font></td></tr><tr><td width=3D598 height=3D24=
><p align=3Dcenter><font color=3D#FFCC99><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt;=
 font-family: Times New Roman; font-style: italic">If you think that you w=
ill not benefit from this correspondence, please </span><span style=3D"fon=
t-family: Times New Roman; font-style: italic"><font size=3D2>reply with '=
<a href=3Dhttp://www.cramz.net/help.html>remove</a>' as the subject.</font=
></span></font></td></tr></table></center></div></BODY></HTML>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:28:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05961
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 08:28:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF9D52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:55:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13912891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 16:01:36 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QJpan01279 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:51:36 -0400
Received: from HAMMER2 (host-64-110-76-205.interpacket.net [64.110.76.205]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6QJpVV11307 for
          <WORDS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:51:32 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Message-ID:  <200207261951.g6QJpVV11307@pasta.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:01:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Dr Julius Ogbonnaya <juliusogbo4@LYCOS.COM>
Subject:      Urgent Request (respond)
Comments: To: WORDS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Dr Julius Ogbonnaya
Lagos, Nigeria.
26th July 2002
Fax: 234 1 7591666


Attention: President/CEO


REQUEST FOR URGENT BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP.

Firstly I must solicit your strictest confidence in this subject. This is by virtue of its nature as
being utterly confidential and top secret. A member of the Nigeria Export
Promotion Council (N.E.P.C.) who was part of the federal government delegation to your
country during a trade exhibition gave your particulars to me. I have decided to
seek a confidential operation with you in the execution of the deal described hereunder for
the benefit of all the parties and hope that you keep it top secret because of
the
nature of the business.

Within the ministry of petroleum resources where I work as a director of engineering and
projects, and with the co-operation of four other very top officials, we have
under our control as overdue contract payments, bills totalling Thirty One Million United
States Dollars, which we want to transfer to a foreign account, with the
assistance and co-operation of a foreign company to receive the said funds on our behalf
or a reliable foreign individual account to receive the funds.

The source of the fund is as follows: during the last military government here in Nigeria
which lasted bout eleven months, government officials set up companies and
Awarded themselves various contracts which were grossly over-invoiced in various
ministries.  The present civilian government is not aware of the atrocities committed
by their predecessors and as a result, we have a lot of such over invoiced pending
contract
payments  which we have identified floating at the central bank of Nigeria
ready for payment.
However by virtue of our position as civil servants, we cannot acquire this money in our
names.  I was therefore delegated as a matter of urgency by my colleagues to
look for an over seas partner into whose account we would transfer the sum of  US
$31,000,000.00 (THIRTY ONE MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS) hence we are
writing you this letter.

The present civilian government is determined to pay foreign contractors  debts owed so as
to maintain an amiable relationship with foreign governments and non-
government financial agencies.  We have decided to include our bills for approval with the
co-operation of some officials of the federal ministry of finance (F.M.F) and
the central bank of Nigeria (C.B.N).  We are seeking your assistance in providing us with a
good company account or any other offshore bank account into which we
can remit this money by
acting our main partner and trustee or acting as the original contractor.  This we can do by
swapping of account information and changing of beneficiary and other
pertinent information to apply for payment.  By this act, we would be using your company
information to apply for payment, and prepare letters of claim and job
description on behalf of your company.  This process would be an internal arrangement
with
the departments concerned. I have the authority of my partners involved to
propose that should you be willing to assist us in this transaction, your share as
compensation will be us$6.2 million (20%), us$21.7 million (70%) for us and us$3.1 (10%)
for taxation and miscellaneous expenses.

The business itself is 100% safe, provided you treat it with utmost secrecy and
confidentiality.  Also your area of specialization is not m hindrance to the successful
execution of this transaction.  I have reposed my confidence in you and hope that you will
not disappoint me.

 I will bring the complete picture of the transaction to your knowledge when I have heard
from you.

Thank you for your co-operation,

Yours faithfully,
Dr Julius Ogbonnaya

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:30:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05974
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 08:30:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF9D84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:58:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13914030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 16:04:24 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QK4Nn03630 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:04:24 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6QK4FP04333 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:04:15 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207261503170.4037-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:04:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?50@@.2cbe5953/0 (fwd)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Smart ass Brits' reactions to fat Americans suing fast foods.

Why am I posting this.  Oh just to post I guess

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:33:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05978
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 08:33:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF9DCA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:00:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13914175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 16:06:34 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QK6Yn03886 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:06:34 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6QK6W404463 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:06:32 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207261505460.4037-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:06:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Another poem published.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D48B4B2@webmail.utk.edu>

On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> http://wtp62.com/rbr.htm
>
> Nice! VERY nice!

I'm having trouble with "shifted lover."  Would somebody unpack this for
me please (would everybody unpack this for me please)

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:40:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05982
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 08:40:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0016BF2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:13:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13913940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 16:13:47 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QK3ln03481 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:03:47 -0400
Received: from nextchancesystems.com ([205.205.113.134]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QK3lV17295 for
          <Words-L@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:03:47 -0400
Received: from [192.168.18.82] [192.168.18.82] by nextchancesystems.com
          (SMTPD32-7.10) id AB2019B01D4; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:03:44 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html;charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <200207261603793.SM00222@[192.168.18.82]>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:03:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: respond@NEXTCHANCESYSTEMS.COM
Subject:      Introducing Menz.com
Comments: To: Words-L@uga.cc.uga.edu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

<html>
<head>
<TITLE>Menz.com Newsletter</TITLE>

<meta name=3D"description" content=3D"Menz.com">
<meta name=3D"keywords" content=3D"Menz men">


<STYLE><!--
A {text-decoration: none;}
A:hover {text-decoration: underline;}
TD {font: Trebuchet MS,Arial Narrow,Arial,Arial MT,Helv,Helvetica,Monaco,MS=
 Sans Serif; font-size: 12.5pt;}
.BIGNUMBERS {font-size: 18pt}
.SMALLCAPS {font-size: 16pt}
--></STYLE>

</head>

<body bgcolor=3D"#000000" link=3D"#A32E21" text=3D"#000000" vlink=3D"#5E1B1=
3">

<img src=3D'http://www.nextchancesystems.com/yr/yrm.asp?ca=3DD000214&co=3D0=
0123066' lowsrc=3D'http://www.nextchancesystems.com/yr/btn-red.gif' width=
=3D1 length=3D1>

<center>


<table border=3D0 cellpadding=3D1 cellspacing=3D0 width=3D592 bgcolor=3D"#d=
ddddd"><tr><td>
<!-- The above table places the 1 pixel black outline around the whole page=
 -->


<center>
<table border=3D0 cellpadding=3D0 cellspacing=3D0 width=3D590 bgcolor=3D"#F=
1BD5C">



<tr><td width=3D590 valign=3Dtop align=3Dleft colspan=3D2><table border=3D0=
 width=3D100% cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">
  <tr>
                    <td width=3D"100%" align=3Dleft><a href=3D"http://www.m=
enz.com"><img src=3D"http://www.menz.com/bryan/menzlogo.gif" border=3D"0"><=
/A></td>
    <td width=3D10><img src=3D"http://www.menz.com/bryan/spacer.gif" border=
=3D0 height=3D1 width=3D10></td>
<td width=3D468>


<a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/maple/sugar.asp"><img src=3D"http://www.menz=
.com/bryan/maplesugar1.gif" border=3D"0"></a>
</td></tr></table>
</td></tr>

<tr><td width=3D590 valign=3Dtop colspan=3D2><img src=3D"http://www.menz.co=
m/bryan/black.gif" width=3D590 height=3D1 border=3D0 vspace=3D0 hspace=3D0>=
</td></tr>

<tr>
              <td width=3D150 height=3D17 valign=3Dmiddle align=3Dleft bgco=
lor=3D"#FFDA77"><font face=3D"ARIAL" size=3D"-2" align=3Dleft>&nbsp;&nbsp;J=
uly
                19th, 2002</font> </td>

              <td width=3D440 height=3D17 valign=3Dmiddle bgcolor=3D"#FFDA7=
7" align=3Dright><font face=3D"Arial, Verdana, Helvetica" size=3D"1">|&nbsp=
;<a href=3D"http://www.menz.com">Home</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www=
.menz.com/maple/sugar.asp">Maple
                Sugar Girls</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/=
sexlife.asp">Sex
                Life</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/forum20=
02/default.asp">Forums</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/adver=
tise.asp">Advertise</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>
            </TR>

<tr><td width=3D590 valign=3Dtop align=3Dleft colspan=3D2><img src=3D"http:=
//www.menz.com/bryan/black.gif" width=3D590 height=3D1 alt=3D"" border=3D0 =
vspace=3D0 hspace=3D0></td></tr>

</table>


          <table border=3D0 cellspacing=3D0 cellpadding=3D0 width=3D590>
            <tr>
              <td width=3D437 bgcolor=3D"#F1BD5C" valign=3Dtop align=3Dleft=
>
                <table border=3D0 cellpadding=3D0 cellspacing=3D0 width=3D4=
37>
                  <tr>
                    <td width=3D437 height=3D10 colspan=3D3><img src=3D"htt=
p://www.menz.com/bryan/spacer.gif" width=3D2 height=3D10 hspace=3D0 vspace=
=3D0 alt=3D"" border=3D0></td>
                  </tr>
                  <tr>
                    <td width=3D10><img src=3D"http://www.menz.com/bryan/sp=
acer.gif" width=3D10 height=3D2 hspace=3D0 vspace=3D0 alt=3D"" border=3D0><=
/td>
                    <td width=3D417 valign=3Dtop align=3Dleft>
                      <h3>Welcome to Menz.com</h3>
                      <p><font face=3D"Arial, Verdana, Helvetica" size=3D2>=
 Menz Magazine, "Where the adventure never ends," is proud to present their
online version, Menz.com. Menz caters specifically to the active,
adventurous Canadian male, offering daily articles of substance from a
Canadian perspective. Menz is not for spectators, but for participants who
are committed to excelling at both work and play.
</font></p>
                      <p><font face=3D"Arial, Verdana, Helvetica" size=3D2>=
We have recently launched a new set of <a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/forum=
2002/default.asp"><b>forums</b></a> where our visitors can hang
out and express themselves. Check them out, make a comment and take a stand=
.
Your views are always welcome.

                       </font></p>
                      <p>
                      <table>
                        <tr>
                          <td><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/form.asp?form=
=3Df00108&return=3Dformthanks.asp&ca=3DD000214&co=3D00123066"><img src=3D"h=
ttp://www.menz.com/bryan/26cover.gif" border=3D"0"></a></td>
                          <td>
                       <font face=3D"Arial, Verdana, Helvetica" size=3D2>To=
 get
                        your <b>FREE</b> copy of our award winning magazine=
,
                        click this link: <a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/for=
m.asp?form=3Df00108&return=3Dformthanks.asp&ca=3DD000214&co=3D00123066"><b>=
Complimentary MENZ Magazine</b></a>.</font></p>
                        <p><font face=3D"Arial, Verdana, Helvetica" size=3D=
"2">It's summer folks. Party hard and enjoy the outdoors.<br><br>Hope
                        to see you on our site................</font></p>
                        </td></tr></table>
                      <p><font face=3D"Arial, Verdana, Helvetica" size=3D"2=
">Yours
                        Faithfully,<br>
                        <b>Bryan Chaut</b></font><br>
                        <!---Start Table--->
                      </p>
                      <font face=3D"Arial, Verdana, Helvetica" size=3D2>
                      <table border=3D0 width=3D400 cellpadding=3D0 cellspa=
cing=3D0>
                        <tr>
                          <td width=3D400 valign=3Dtop colspan=3D2 height=
=3D"37"><font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>
                            <b>Cool links to our articles</b></font></td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                          <td width=3D200 valign=3Dtop align=3Dleft height=
=3D"57"><font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>
                            <ul>
                              <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/content/sy=
stempl.asp?PAGENO=3D0&SUB=3DC00037&CHANNEL=3DB00218&RESET=3DYES">Sony, Micr=
osoft, Nintendo, Oh My!</a>
                              <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/content/sy=
stempl.asp?PAGENO=3D0&SUB=3DC00037&CHANNEL=3DB00187&RESET=3DYES">Menz inter=
views Super Model: FAWN</a>
                              <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/content/sy=
stempl.asp?PAGENO=3D0&SUB=3DC00037&CHANNEL=3DB00073&RESET=3DYES">Etiquette =
For Men</a>
                            </ul>
                            </font></td>
                          <td width=3D200 valign=3Dtop align=3Dleft height=
=3D"57"><font face=3D"arial" size=3D"2">
                            <ul>
                              <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/content/sy=
stempl.asp?PAGENO=3D0&SUB=3DC00037&CHANNEL=3DB00220&RESET=3DYES">Men in Tig=
hts</a>
                              <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/content/sy=
stempl.asp?PAGENO=3D0&SUB=3DC00037&CHANNEL=3DB00076&RESET=3DYES">The Big De=
al About Fantasy Football
                              <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/content/systempl=
.asp?PAGENO=3D0&SUB=3DC00037&CHANNEL=3DB00197&RESET=3DYES">SEX, The Wonder =
Pill in a new form</a>
                               </a>
                            </ul>
                            </font></td>
                        </tr>
                      </table>
                      <br>
                      </font> </td>
                    <td width=3D10><img src=3D"http://www.menz.com/bryan/sp=
acer.gif" width=3D10 height=3D2 hspace=3D0 vspace=3D0 alt=3D"" border=3D0><=
/td>
                  </tr>
                  <tr>
                    <td width=3D437 height=3D10 colspan=3D3><img src=3D"htt=
p://www.menz.com/bryan/spacer.gif" width=3D2 height=3D10 hspace=3D0 vspace=
=3D0 alt=3D"" border=3D0></td>
                  </tr>
                </table>
              </td>
              <td width=3D1 bgcolor=3D"#000000"  valign=3Dtop align=3Dleft>=
<img src=3D"http://www.menz.com/bryan/spacer.gif" width=3D1 height=3D2 hspa=
ce=3D0 vspace=3D0 alt=3D"" border=3D0></td>
              <td width=3D150 rowspan=3D2 valign=3Dtop bgcolor=3D"#FFDA77">=

                <table border=3D0 bgcolor=3D"#A32E21" cellpadding=3D0 cells=
pacing=3D0 height=3D50 width=3D100%>
                  <tr>
                    <td>
                      <center>
                        <font face=3D"arial" size=3D2 color=3D"#F0B850"><b>=
Featured Maple Sugar Girl</b></font>
                      </center>
                    </td>
                  </tr>
                </table>
                <br>
                <center><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/maple/content/system=
pl.asp?PAGENO=3D13&CHANNEL=3DB00206&RESET=3DYES"><b>Bianca</b></a><br>
                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/mapl=
e/content/systempl.asp?PAGENO=3D13&CHANNEL=3DB00206&RESET=3DYES"><img src=
=3D"http://www.menz.com/bryan/biancatitle.gif" border=3D"0"></a></center>

                <img src=3D"http://www.menz.com/bryan/black.gif" width=3D15=
0 height=3D1 hspace=3D0 vspace=3D0><br>
                <br>
                <font face=3D"arial" size=3D3 color=3D"#F0B850"> &nbsp;&nbs=
p;<a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/"><b>Article Sections</b></a><br>
                </font> <font face=3D"arial" size=3D"2">
                <ul>
                  <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/technology.asp">Tech</=
a>
                  <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/sports.asp">Sports</a>=

                  <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/travel.asp">Travel</a>=

                  <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/entertain.asp">Enterta=
inment</a>
                  <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/business.asp">Business=
</a>
                  <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/weekends.asp">Weekend<=
/a>
                  <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/humour.asp">Humor</a>
                  <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/contests.asp">Contests=
</a>
                  <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/toyz/toyzguide.asp">To=
yz</a>
                  <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/weekends.asp">Weekends=
</a>
                  <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/auto/autoguide.asp">Au=
to</a>
                  <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/nightlife/nightlifegui=
de.asp">Nite
                    Life</a>
                  <li><a href=3D"http://www.menz.com/outdoors/outdoorsguide=
.asp">Outdoors</a>
                </ul>
                </font></font></td>
            </tr>
          </table>
          <table border=3D0 cellpadding=3D0 cellspacing=3D0 width=3D590 bgc=
olor=3D"#A32E21">
            <tr>
              <td width=3D590 valign=3Dtop align=3Dleft colspan=3D2><img sr=
c=3D"http://www.menz.com/bryan/black.gif" width=3D590 height=3D1 alt=3D"" b=
order=3D0 vspace=3D0 hspace=3D0></td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td width=3D200 height=3D24 valign=3Dcenter align=3Dleft><fon=
t face=3D"Arial, Verdana, Helvetica" size=3D1 color=3D"#D7D0C0">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;</font></td>
              <td width=3D390 height=3D17 valign=3Dcenter align=3Dright><fo=
nt face=3D"Arial, Verdana, Helvetica" size=3D1 color=3D"#D7D0C0">=A9
                Copyright 2001, 2002 Menz. All rights reserved.&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;</font></td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td width=3D590 valign=3Dtop align=3Dleft colspan=3D2><img sr=
c=3D"http://www.menz.com/bryan/black.gif" width=3D590 height=3D1 alt=3D"" b=
order=3D0 vspace=3D0 hspace=3D0></td>
            </tr>
          </table>



</center>
To UNSUBSCRIBE, hit reply and include the word "REMOVE" in your subject.
</td></tr></table>
<center>
    <br>
    <br></center>
</center></body>
</html>=

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:41:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05989
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 08:41:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EF9EA3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:09:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13914683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 16:15:21 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QKFLn05049 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:15:21 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6QKFKsS513622 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002
          16:15:21 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000601c234e1$2b7159d0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:15:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Urgent Request (respond)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <200207261951.g6QJpVV11307@pasta.cc.uga.edu>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dr Julius Ogbonnaya
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 4:02 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Urgent Request (respond)
>
>
> Dr Julius Ogbonnaya
> Lagos, Nigeria.
> 26th July 2002
> Fax: 234 1 7591666
>
>
Anyone need a quick 31 million? These scams are amazing.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:43:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05993
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 08:43:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0016BF85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:17:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13914760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 16:17:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QKHJn05351 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:17:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2EE158080; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 13:17:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020726201719.2EE158080@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:17:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D416E70.4555.1AEEA04@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              26, 2002  3:44:49 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> Wet the edges slightly.  Overlap slightly. Press gently.

Overlap what? When you fold it out, it looks fine; it just cracks when
it's cooked.

> > So the last time I made those blueberry pies, I used a refrigerated
> > piecrust--I think the same one you did. This was strictly for
> > time-saving purposes, but I have to say that it was good enough that I
> > would definitely use it again.
> >
> > The only problem I had was that the first piecrust cracked along the
> > 'fault lines' of the fold in the crust. How did you get around this?
> > (The second time,  I took the excess piecrust and smushed it over the
> > cracks in the foundation. Fernando and I ate the cracked one.)
> >
> > Karen
>

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:44:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05997
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 08:44:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0016BF89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:17:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13914768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 16:17:46 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QKHjn05415 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:17:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B992581BB; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 13:17:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020726201744.B992581BB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:17:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: gone until wednesday
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D416F7B.18951.1B30058@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              26, 2002  3:49:16 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> Going nomail.
> Heading north.

:)

> One of these times I won't be back.

:(

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 09:06:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06022
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 09:06:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFA0C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:34:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13916228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 16:40:25 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QKeOn09561 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:40:24 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6QKeNN02387 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002
          15:40:23 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020726194112.218707FE3@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000401c234e4$e5c9f140$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:42:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Kay" <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
To: <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 2:41 PM
Subject: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber

> So the last time I made those blueberry pies, I used a refrigerated
> piecrust--I think the same one you did. This was strictly for
> time-saving purposes, but I have to say that it was good enough that I
> would definitely use it again.
>
> The only problem I had was that the first piecrust cracked along the
> 'fault lines' of the fold in the crust. How did you get around this?
> (The second time,  I took the excess piecrust and smushed it over the
> cracks in the foundation. Fernando and I ate the cracked one.)
>
> Karen


I use piecrusts from the frozen section.  I let them sit out
while I prepare the filling and they thaw enough that if
there is a crack I can just smudge my finger into the
crack and around it and it fills in the crack.

                          - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 09:17:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06052
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 09:17:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFA19B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:45:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13916854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 16:51:03 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QKp3n10788 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:51:03 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000014;
          26 Jul 02 16:50:36 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 26 Jul 02
          16:50:19 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000013; 26 Jul 02 16:50:08 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
References: <20020726151703.358C57F22@yellow.rahul.net>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D417DC0.31704.148C54E5@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:50:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: take the Pope Quiz
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4130E1.14826.BE6B9B@localhost>

On Friday, July 26, 2002 at 11:22, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

> > > because there will be an extra half million people in Steve's
> > > neighbourhood
[...]
> The Downsview site, where the stage and altar are set up for
> Sunday's mass Mass, is less than a mile from Steve's house.  He
> did say, however, that most of the pilgrims will be arriving by public
> transit and that it shouldn't be too bad.

My friend who lives in that area has a "Pope Pass" for his car.
Without it he can't drive to within several blocks of his house.

It's funny that I think of that as a Jewish area, though it certainly
has a history of (presumably Catholic) Italians as well.

I've seen many gaggles of World Youth (uh, young Catholics) around
here (midtown - nowhere near either of the big sites). I realized
that they're recognizable pretty much only by their official-issue
backpacks and name tags, but that it's otherwise unremarkable to see
groups of young people walking down the street speaking Italian or
Portugese or Tagalog.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 09:57:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06120
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 09:57:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0016C6BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:31:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13920399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 17:31:22 -0400
Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QLVMn16550 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:31:22 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.16b.1128b368 (4380) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul
          2002 17:31:16 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <16b.1128b368.2a7319a3@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:31:15 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Urgent Request (respond)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/26/2002 3:15:27 PM Central Daylight Time,
plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU writes:

<<
Anyone need a quick 31 million?
>>

Yes.  It will make Mom feel better:  they were painting the
outside of out apartment, so we had to put the plants on
the grass on the other side of the walk, and someone
walked off with them.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

Whatever happened to Miss Kittty Fantastico?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 10:31:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06173
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 10:31:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFA8F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:59:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13922455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 18:05:01 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QM4xn20219 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:04:59 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-250.panax.com
          [63.163.41.250]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6QM47n05095; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:04:07 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020726173320.00b49ba8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:03:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      perhaps not total relaxation, but...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The forecast today approached perfection:  light winds, mostly sunny, highs
in the upper 60s.  After a walk into town for the papers, a brief nosh at
the Opera House, and a walk back home, I considered two options:  kayaking
or hiking.  To kayak, I would have had to drive to the northern side of the
island (the E winds would have made kayaking in the harbor a bit
bumpy).  So, I walked a couple of blocks and flagged down the 12:30 shuttle
bus for Sand Beach.  Arriving there, I walked through the assembled
mulitudes of sunbathers, frisbee throwers, and occasional (and brief)
swimmers to the far end of the beach and the start of the trail around
Great Head.

Like many other trails here, this one---by the definitions of walk and hike
offered earlier this week---is a combination.  The first 10 minutes or so
are a climb, often over exposed rock.  After that, it becomes more a walk
than a hike.  There was a reasonable amount of traffic early on, but the
route offers several little side paths so that one can stand or sit on a
rock outcropping, view the scenery, and allow others to "play
through."  The air was fresh and clean and the eastern breeze was
refreshingly cool.  It was a bit past high tide, so the lower rock shelves
on the Head were becoming exposed; it was pleasant simply to sit and watch
the water move across the different levels of rock shelf below.

After reaching the Head, the route turns inland a bit---still allowing the
little side trips to promontories---and then climbs slightly to the site of
an old tea house.  Nothing is left now save a small bit of stairway,
another small bit of stone flooring, and clumps of mortar and rock.  When
this area was still privately owned (until sometime in the 1940s) the
owners would repair to this spot and their small structure to take
afternoon tea.  The view to one side is across Frenchman Bay to Schoodic
Point.  The opposite view is of the MDI mountains:  Beehive, Gorham,
Champlain, and---a bit more distant---Cadillac.  The breeze remained; it
was a nice place to munch on a Balance Bar,  drink some more water, and
simply enjoy.  After that, the trail drops from the height of Great Head
through increasingly dense woodland.  Off to the side, there is one path
that leads to a beach area where again, one can sit---either in isolation
or in the sparsely distributed company of other like souls---and enjoy the
rocks, trees, water, and peace.  Finally, it's back on the trail to
complete the circle back to Sand Beach (which, owing to the development of
a very high overcast and an increasing sea-breeze, had substantially fewer
sun-worshippers than before) and then to the parking lot and the shuttle
bus home.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 11:05:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06206
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 11:05:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFAA87@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:32:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13923829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 18:38:28 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f115.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.115]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QMcSn23417 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:38:28 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          26 Jul 2002 15:38:23 -0700
Received: from 64.154.73.28 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 22:38:22 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [64.154.73.28]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2002 22:38:23.0218 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[26311D20:01C234F5]
Message-ID:  <F115kzaWDJDqr3RT9aN0000add4@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:38:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>The only problem I had was that the first piecrust cracked along the
>'fault lines' of the fold in the crust. How did you get around this?

It didn't happen to me, I don't know. That was my first experience with one
of the refrigerated folded crusts -- Pillsbury I think it was I used -- and
I agree, I will definitely use it again.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 11:12:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06220
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 11:12:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFAABC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:40:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13924009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 18:45:59 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f203.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.203]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QMjxn23924 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:45:59 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          26 Jul 2002 15:45:53 -0700
Received: from 64.154.73.28 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 22:45:53 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [64.154.73.28]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2002 22:45:53.0866 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[32CC8AA0:01C234F6]
Message-ID:  <F2036shalxyPyF1BcI30001e238@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:45:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
>I use piecrusts from the frozen section.  I let them sit out
>while I prepare the filling and they thaw enough that if
>there is a crack I can just smudge my finger into the
>crack and around it and it fills in the crack.

The refrigerated crusts taste much better. And you can cook them in your own
pie pan instead of a foil pan.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 11:25:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06232
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 11:25:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFAB6E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:52:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13924697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 18:58:43 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f96.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.96]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QMwgn25269 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:58:42 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          26 Jul 2002 15:58:37 -0700
Received: from 64.154.73.28 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 22:58:37 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [64.154.73.28]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2002 22:58:37.0324 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[F9DAFCC0:01C234F7]
Message-ID:  <F96s87tzrT9jqSk71GH0001e4fa@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:58:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
>What are some suggestions to achieve total relaxation?

Smoke a joint.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 11:33:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06253
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 11:33:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFABD8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:00:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13925004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 19:06:45 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QN6jn25964 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:06:45 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6QN6iN22627 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002
          18:06:44 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <F2036shalxyPyF1BcI30001e238@hotmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000601c234f9$5702d660$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:08:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
> >I use piecrusts from the frozen section.  I let them sit out
> >while I prepare the filling and they thaw enough that if
> >there is a crack I can just smudge my finger into the
> >crack and around it and it fills in the crack.
>
> The refrigerated crusts taste much better. And you can cook them in
your own
> pie pan instead of a foil pan.
>
> Marie

I respectfully disagree.  Frozen is much superior
to my taste, and I'm an old pie maker who used
to make pretty good crusts from scratch.
Maybe it depends upon the brand.  I have found
several good brands of frozen crust.  It is much
thinner than the refrigerated crust, which is too
thick for my taste.

                             - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 11:49:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06268
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 11:49:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFAC7F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:16:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13925501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 19:22:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QNMWn27258 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:22:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8F4A77F48; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 16:22:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020726232230.8F4A77F48@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:22:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000601c234f9$5702d660$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 26, 2002  6: 8:22 pm"

Doris Markland said:
> > >From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
> > >I use piecrusts from the frozen section.  I let them sit out
> > >while I prepare the filling and they thaw enough that if
> > >there is a crack I can just smudge my finger into the
> > >crack and around it and it fills in the crack.
> >
> > The refrigerated crusts taste much better. And you can cook them in
> your own
> > pie pan instead of a foil pan.
> >
> > Marie
>
> I respectfully disagree.  Frozen is much superior
> to my taste, and I'm an old pie maker who used
> to make pretty good crusts from scratch.

Well, I'm not as old as you are, but I'm a pie-maker who used to make
very good crusts from scratch, and I was pleased with the Pillsbury
crust Marie recommended.

> Maybe it depends upon the brand.  I have found
> several good brands of frozen crust.  It is much
> thinner than the refrigerated crust, which is too
> thick for my taste.

This wasn't that thick. But it has a good taste and is definitely
flaky.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 11:52:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06275
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 11:52:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0016CDAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:26:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13925664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 19:26:02 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QNQ2n27554 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:26:02 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6QNQ1N07344 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002
          18:26:01 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020726232230.8F4A77F48@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000601c234fc$0893c4a0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:27:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> This wasn't that thick. But it has a good taste and is definitely
> flaky.
>
> Karen

There again, it may depend upon the brand.
Maybe I have had the wrong brands of
refrigerated crusts.

At any rate, it doesn't pay to make your
own crusts anymore.  And time is too
precious.

                  - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 11:54:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06282
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 11:54:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFACBD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:22:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13925718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 19:27:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QNRon27697 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:27:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 78F918006; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 16:27:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020726232748.78F918006@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:27:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000601c234fc$0893c4a0$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 26, 2002  6:27:39 pm"

Doris Markland said:
> > This wasn't that thick. But it has a good taste and is definitely
> > flaky.
> >
> > Karen
>
> There again, it may depend upon the brand.
> Maybe I have had the wrong brands of
> refrigerated crusts.

I think maybe they are better now than they used to be. I was
surprised that Marie would use the refrigerated one, but as I said, it
was very good.

> At any rate, it doesn't pay to make your
> own crusts anymore.  And time is too
> precious.

Totally Agreed.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 11:56:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06291
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 11:56:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFACD4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:24:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13925798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 19:30:10 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QNU9n27919 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:30:09 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-144.panax.com
          [65.114.190.144]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6QNU9n19066 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002
          19:30:09 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <F2036shalxyPyF1BcI30001e238@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020726192911.00a1c9a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:29:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000601c234f9$5702d660$360332d1@0018079268>

>I respectfully disagree.  Frozen is much superior
>to my taste, and I'm an old pie maker who used
>to make pretty good crusts from scratch.
>                              - D. M.

Why did you stop making them from scratch?  I've never bought a
refrigerated or a frozen pie crust. Blech.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 11:58:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06298
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 11:58:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFACDA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:26:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13925822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 19:32:02 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QNW2n28012 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:32:02 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6QNW1wt031054 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:32:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020726232230.8F4A77F48@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020726163149.00a8eb70@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:32:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000601c234fc$0893c4a0$360332d1@0018079268>

At 06:27 PM 7/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> > This wasn't that thick. But it has a good taste and is definitely
> > flaky.
> >
> > Karen
>
>There again, it may depend upon the brand.
>Maybe I have had the wrong brands of
>refrigerated crusts.
>
>At any rate, it doesn't pay to make your
>own crusts anymore.  And time is too
>precious.

Larry makes delicious crusts from scratch without much time involved.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:01:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06309
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 12:01:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFACF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:28:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13925907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 19:34:42 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QNYfn28167 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:34:41 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-144.panax.com
          [65.114.190.144]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6QNYfn19822 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002
          19:34:41 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020726232230.8F4A77F48@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020726193330.00a1bd80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:34:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000601c234fc$0893c4a0$360332d1@0018079268>

>At any rate, it doesn't pay to make your
>own crusts anymore.  And time is too
>precious.                 - D. M.

My God, the world has come to this, that a gentle Midwestern grandma
doesn't have time to make her own pie crust??!!  Blech.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:03:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06313
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 12:03:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFAD08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:30:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13925961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 19:36:24 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QNaOn28297 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:36:24 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-144.panax.com
          [65.114.190.144]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6QNaOn20118 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002
          19:36:24 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <000601c234fc$0893c4a0$360332d1@0018079268>
            <20020726232230.8F4A77F48@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020726193502.00a16210@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:36:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020726163149.00a8eb70@uclink.berkeley.edu>

>Larry makes delicious crusts from scratch without much time involved.
>Betty

Praise Jesus.  The world is saved.  So do I and without much time.  The
ingredients are right here at hand.  Why travel to the store to get a faux
crust?  Clyde doesn't bake much.  I do the desserts.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:05:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06317
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 12:05:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFAD1F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:32:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13926041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 19:38:28 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QNcSn28487 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:38:28 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZV00BOHR03F2@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:38:28 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020726232230.8F4A77F48@yellow.rahul.net>
            <000601c234fc$0893c4a0$360332d1@0018079268>
Message-ID:  <3D41DD13.9030504@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:36:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:


> At any rate, it doesn't pay to make your
> own crusts anymore.  And time is too
> precious.
>


I always make my own crusts.  Takes about 5 minutes.
Plus, I know mine isn't full of that crisco shit.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:08:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06321
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 12:08:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFAD40@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:35:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13926204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 19:41:35 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QNfZn28917 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:41:35 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZV00BGDR5BHP@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:41:35 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020726232230.8F4A77F48@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020726193330.00a1bd80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID:  <3D41DDCE.1030104@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:39:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

>> At any rate, it doesn't pay to make your
>> own crusts anymore.  And time is too
>> precious.                 - D. M.
>
>
> My God, the world has come to this, that a gentle Midwestern grandma
> doesn't have time to make her own pie crust??!!  Blech.
>


She has plenty of time to watch mediocre movies on video,
so, to each their own.


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:11:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06329
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 12:11:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFAD59@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:38:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13926286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 19:44:45 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QNiin29162 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:44:44 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-144.panax.com
          [65.114.190.144]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6QNiin21374 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002
          19:44:44 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020726232230.8F4A77F48@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020726193330.00a1bd80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020726194313.00a14070@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:44:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D41DDCE.1030104@swbell.net>

>She has plenty of time to watch mediocre movies on video,
>so, to each their own.       --Rita Rouvalis Chapman


You know, I'm fed up to HERE with this whole "to each their own"
philosophy.  There ought to be some standards, some rules.  And one of them
out to be that Midwestern Grandmothers ought to bake from scratch.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:20:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06355
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 12:20:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFADA6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:48:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13926583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 19:53:59 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QNrxn30201 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:53:59 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6QNrwN28313 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002
          18:53:58 -0500 (CDT)
References: <F2036shalxyPyF1BcI30001e238@hotmail.com> 
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020726192911.00a1c9a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000801c234ff$efe8a020$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:55:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> Why did you stop making them from scratch?  I've never bought a
> refrigerated or a frozen pie crust. Blech.
>
>
>     --bonniev

Time factor.  Gene could bring rhubarb in from
the farm and I could have a pie in the oven within
ten minutes.

Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised by the quality
of frozen crusts.  Very thin, flaky. And crust all
ready to add filling in a few moments.  I even use
the second  crust for a top in a two-crust pie.

              - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:24:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06369
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 12:24:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFADD1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:52:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13926728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 19:58:16 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QNwGn30548 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:58:16 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6QNwEN01804 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002
          18:58:14 -0500 (CDT)
References: <20020726232230.8F4A77F48@yellow.rahul.net> 
            <4.2.2.20020726163149.00a8eb70@uclink.berkeley.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000f01c23500$88e3d560$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:59:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >At any rate, it doesn't pay to make your
> >own crusts anymore.  And time is too
> >precious.
>
> Larry makes delicious crusts from scratch without much time involved.
>
> Betty


Easy for you to say.

      - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:40:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06395
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 12:40:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFAE55@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:08:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13927091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 20:14:18 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe66.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.201]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R0EIn31602 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:14:18 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          26 Jul 2002 17:14:12 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2002 00:14:12.0646 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[891E3460:01C23502]
Message-ID:  <OE66UohIi6YEFmsQSkt00000c78@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:15:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>>What are some suggestions to achieve total relaxation?


>Smoke a joint.

... a spliff contained in dry banana leaf!

Irie ites!

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:50:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06409
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 12:50:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0016D030@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:23:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13927343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 20:23:46 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f280.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.155]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R0Njn32212 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:23:46 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          26 Jul 2002 17:16:51 -0700
Received: from 209.246.87.61 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 02
          Jul 2002 23:48:28 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [209.246.87.61]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2002 00:16:51.0170 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[E79B0C20:01C23502]
Message-ID:  <F280fIcL6YXjpfGy6zC000015b9@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:48:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>  What's the right ratio? I never heard of this ratio business...I have my
>numbers...I just need to know how to use them.
>Sch.

Total/HDL.

What it says here on my lab report is:

Coronary risk (Chol/HDL):
1/2 X Avg  Male 3.4   Female   3.3
Average    Male 5.0   Female   4.4
2X Avg     Male 9.6   Female   7.1
3X Avg     Male 13.5  Female   11.0

Maie



>From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: What is everybody doing?
>Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:17:29 -0700
>
>
> > On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Marie Ascher wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know what it is, but my total cholesterol/HDL ratio
> > turns out to be
> > > outstanding at 2.2. Olive oil rocks!
> > >
> > You have something else good going for you, besides the olive oi. Olive
> > oil is the only cooking oil in my kitchen, and I never use butter. And
> > though I have a low cholestrol, 120, I have a terrible ratio: 1:5. So
>now
> > I find myself in the strange position of trying to eat more fat, but the
> > "good" kind, nuts and fish.  I've also been told to get more exercise. I
> > don't know what the connection is between exercise and total
>cholesterol/
> > HDL ratio  my doctor says there is one.
> >
> > Sharon




Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:53:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06420
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 12:53:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFAED5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:20:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13927460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 20:26:25 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R0QPn32419 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:26:25 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZV00B8XT80FK@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:26:25 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020726232230.8F4A77F48@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020726193330.00a1bd80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020726194313.00a14070@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID:  <3D41E850.6020501@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:24:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

>> She has plenty of time to watch mediocre movies on video,
>> so, to each their own.       --Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>
>
>
> You know, I'm fed up to HERE with this whole "to each their own"
> philosophy.  There ought to be some standards, some rules.  And one of them
> out to be that Midwestern Grandmothers ought to bake from scratch.
>
        You said it!





--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:55:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06427
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 12:55:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFAEE2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:22:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13927511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 20:28:37 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R0Sbn32588 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:28:37 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6R0SZN25681 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002
          19:28:36 -0500 (CDT)
References: <20020726232230.8F4A77F48@yellow.rahul.net> 
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020726193330.00a1bd80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001601c23504$c64a61e0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:30:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >At any rate, it doesn't pay to make your
> >own crusts anymore.  And time is too
> >precious.                 - D. M.
>
> My God, the world has come to this, that a gentle Midwestern grandma
> doesn't have time to make her own pie crust??!!  Blech.
>
>
>     --bonniev

Yes.  It has come to this.

          - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:58:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06439
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 12:58:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFAEFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:25:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13927573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 20:31:37 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R0Vbn00324 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:31:37 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6R0VZN28396 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002
          19:31:35 -0500 (CDT)
References: <20020726232230.8F4A77F48@yellow.rahul.net>           
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020726193330.00a1bd80@pop3.norton.antivirus> 
            <3D41DDCE.1030104@swbell.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001f01c23505$3181e460$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:33:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >
> >
> > My God, the world has come to this, that a gentle Midwestern grandma
> > doesn't have time to make her own pie crust??!!  Blech.
> >
>
>
> She has plenty of time to watch mediocre movies on video,
> so, to each their own.

=Rita

Hey, that was a once-a-year experience influenced
by my one of my kids who is of your generation.
What do you expect?

                             - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:59:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06446
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 12:59:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFAEFF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:26:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13927580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 20:32:40 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R0Wen00411 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:32:40 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6R0WcN29443 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002
          19:32:38 -0500 (CDT)
References: <20020726232230.8F4A77F48@yellow.rahul.net>           
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020726193330.00a1bd80@pop3.norton.antivirus> 
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020726194313.00a14070@pop3.norton.antivirus>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <002801c23505$56fe2500$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:34:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >She has plenty of time to watch mediocre movies on video,
> >so, to each their own.       --Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>
>
> You know, I'm fed up to HERE with this whole "to each their own"
> philosophy.  There ought to be some standards, some rules.  And one of
them
> out to be that Midwestern Grandmothers ought to bake from scratch.
>
>
>     --bonniev

How about . . Midwestern Grandmothers
ought to scratch your back?

          - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 13:03:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06457
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 13:03:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFAF1F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:31:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13927706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 20:37:12 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R0bCn00761 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:37:12 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-88.panax.com [63.163.41.88])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R0bCn30226 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:37:13 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020726232230.8F4A77F48@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020726193330.00a1bd80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020726194313.00a14070@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020726203614.00a163b0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:36:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <002801c23505$56fe2500$360332d1@0018079268>

>How about . . Midwestern Grandmothers
>ought to scratch your back?
>           - D. M.

Nope.  Doesn't work for me.  Give me pie crust or give me death.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 13:09:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06471
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 13:09:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFAF40@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:37:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13927804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 20:43:17 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R0hGn01060 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:43:16 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-88.panax.com [63.163.41.88])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R0hHn31092 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:43:17 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020726204038.00a1b980@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:42:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F280fIcL6YXjpfGy6zC000015b9@hotmail.com>

>>  On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Marie Ascher wrote:
>>
>> > I don't know what it is, but my total cholesterol/HDL ratio
>> > turns out to be outstanding at 2.2. Olive oil rocks!

Olive oil, exercise, and good genes have put me at a 2.8 even at my
advanced age.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 13:20:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06493
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 13:20:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFAF77@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:47:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13927985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 20:53:38 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R0rcn01607 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:53:38 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6R0rbN16219 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002
          19:53:37 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020726204038.00a1b980@pop3.norton.antivirus>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <002b01c23508$44dc6460$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:55:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Olive oil, exercise, and good genes have put me at a 2.8 even at my
> advanced age.
>
>
>     --bonniev

Your advanced age?  HaaaaaaaHaaaaaHaaaa!


              - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 13:29:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06509
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 13:29:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0016D1DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:02:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13928260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 21:02:47 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R12kn02358 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:02:46 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-88.panax.com [63.163.41.88])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R12jn01564 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:02:46 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020726204038.00a1b980@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020726210200.009f0930@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:02:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <002b01c23508$44dc6460$360332d1@0018079268>

> > Olive oil, exercise, and good genes have put me at a 2.8 even at my
> > advanced age.     --bonniev
>
>Your advanced age?  HaaaaaaaHaaaaaHaaaa!
>               - D. M.

Compared to Marie, the youngster.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 14:09:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06550
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 14:09:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFB0BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:37:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13929053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 21:43:05 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R1h5n04673 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:43:05 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZV00BMSWRSFF@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:43:05 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020726232230.8F4A77F48@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020726193330.00a1bd80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D41DDCE.1030104@swbell.net>
            <001f01c23505$3181e460$360332d1@0018079268>
Message-ID:  <3D41FA48.20705@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:41:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:

>>>
>>>My God, the world has come to this, that a gentle Midwestern grandma
>>>doesn't have time to make her own pie crust??!!  Blech.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>She has plenty of time to watch mediocre movies on video,
>>so, to each their own.
>>
>
> =Rita
>
> Hey, that was a once-a-year experience influenced
> by my one of my kids who is of your generation.
> What do you expect?
>


I expect you to bake pie crusts from scratch, duh.

Other than that, I don't have time for videos.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 14:45:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06606
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 14:45:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFB206@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:13:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13930028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 22:19:16 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R2JGn06925 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:19:16 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZV00KCFYG3RB@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:19:16 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
Message-ID:  <3D4202C3.3020808@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:17:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Furthermore, Grandma
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

You should be baking those pie crusts from scratch simply
because you got to raise your kids in a different world.
That little Missouri girl was just down in Valley Park
(Hoosierville for sure, but still) and the same age as Ana.
  I usually give her free run of our half block, but now I'm
questioning even that.  How is it that I ranged for miles at
her age, and I can't even let her go to the end of the
street?  Am I supposed to put her in front of a TV all summer?

We went to the water park to escape the news coverage, but
it didn't get better while we were gone.  I hate the water park.

--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 14:58:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06615
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 14:58:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFB28C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:25:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13930343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 22:31:43 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R2Vgn07609 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:31:43 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6R2VfN00150 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002
          21:31:41 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <3D4202C3.3020808@swbell.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001001c23515$f7ceb660$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:33:18 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Furthermore, Grandma
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I understand.

        - D. M.


> You should be baking those pie crusts from scratch simply
> because you got to raise your kids in a different world.
> That little Missouri girl was just down in Valley Park
> (Hoosierville for sure, but still) and the same age as Ana.
>   I usually give her free run of our half block, but now I'm
> questioning even that.  How is it that I ranged for miles at
> her age, and I can't even let her go to the end of the
> street?  Am I supposed to put her in front of a TV all summer?
>
> We went to the water park to escape the news coverage, but
> it didn't get better while we were gone.  I hate the water park.
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita
>
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 15:23:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06652
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 15:23:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFB3B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:50:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13931128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 22:56:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R2uen09281 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:56:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EA1668365; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 19:56:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020727025638.EA1668365@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:56:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020726192911.00a1c9a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 26, 2002  7:29:53 pm"

bonniev said:
> Why did you stop making them from scratch?  I've never bought a
> refrigerated or a frozen pie crust. Blech.

P-i-l-l-s-b-u-r-y.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 15:29:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06665
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 15:29:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFB635@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:56:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13933003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 23:02:47 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R32ln10666 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 23:02:47 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6R32jl28959 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:02:45 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207262200070.28871-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:02:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D41E850.6020501@swbell.net>

On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:

> >> She has plenty of time to watch mediocre movies on video,
> >> so, to each their own.       --Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> > You know, I'm fed up to HERE with this whole "to each their own"
> > philosophy.  There ought to be some standards, some rules.  And one of them
> > out to be that Midwestern Grandmothers ought to bake from scratch.
> >
>         You said it!

I say Midwestern Grandmothers REVOLT!  Fuck 'em all with their little
ex-pect-ations.  Let'em feel all 2002 Betty Crockery with their sweet
little pies backed from fucking scratch.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 15:30:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06677
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 15:30:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFB691@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:57:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13933284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 23:03:32 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R33Wn10815 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 23:03:32 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6R33U829109 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:03:30 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207262203110.28871-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:03:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020726203614.00a163b0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, bonniev wrote:

> >How about . . Midwestern Grandmothers
> >ought to scratch your back?
> >           - D. M.
>
> Nope.  Doesn't work for me.  Give me pie crust or give me death.

Hey, that's easy.  TOTALLY.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 15:35:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06681
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 15:35:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFB901@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 23:03:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13934960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 23:09:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R399n11758 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 23:09:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A5A10831B; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 20:09:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020727030908.A5A10831B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:09:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207262203110.28871-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 26, 2002 10: 3:30 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, bonniev wrote:
> > >How about . . Midwestern Grandmothers
> > >ought to scratch your back?
> > >           - D. M.
> >
> > Nope.  Doesn't work for me.  Give me pie crust or give me death.
>
> Hey, that's easy.  TOTALLY.

Like, YEAH!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 16:35:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06742
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 16:35:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFBEF9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 0:03:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13938491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 00:07:47 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R42bn15950 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 00:02:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0546E8302; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 21:02:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020727040236.0546E8302@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:02:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      The ants crawl in, the ants crawl out...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

This is Texas, we don't have enough lizards to keep up with the insect
population...

I sometime find 'sugar ants', the teeny tiny ones, around the
kitchen. I have an extremely effective liquid ant bait for them.
You put a drop of this along their trail, and pretty soon
they are all crowding around chowing down. Sometimes it takes a couple
days, but it works very well.

This time, I have an infestation of larger, black ants. I'm really
fascinated watching them walk along and discover the bait. Do they
talk to each other and tell each other there is food?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 16:42:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06749
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 16:42:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFC033@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 0:10:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13940569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 00:16:15 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R4GFn19632 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 00:16:15 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust144.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.146]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004243650@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 00:16:15 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020727040236.0546E8302@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D421EFE.8D377334@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 00:18:06 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: The ants crawl in, the ants crawl out...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

. Do they
> talk to each other and tell each other there is food?

Yes. Ants have a very advanced system of communication. They are amazing
"animals."

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 16:53:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06764
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 16:53:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFC086@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 0:20:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13940859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 00:26:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R4QPn20274 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 00:26:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 73B688388; Fri, 26
          Jul 2002 21:26:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020727042624.73B688388@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:26:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The ants crawl in, the ants crawl out...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D421EFE.8D377334@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 27,
              2002  0:18: 6 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Do they
> > talk to each other and tell each other there is food?
>
> Yes. Ants have a very advanced system of communication. They are amazing
> "animals."

Yep. I don't feel guilty for killing them, but I love watching them. I
have to watch them to make sure I know where to put the bait, and then
I watch them come and eat it up--sometimes they eat it all and I have
to put more.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 17:30:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06832
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 17:30:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFC1EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 0:57:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13941959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 01:03:40 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R53en22498 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 01:03:40 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6R53cwt005917 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:03:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020726220341.00a9a100@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:03:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Lompoc flowers
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://www.cityoflompoc.com/Flagday/beauty.htm

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 17:40:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06912
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 17:40:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFC22A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 1:08:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13942161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 01:14:06 -0400
Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6R5E6n23041 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          01:14:06 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6R5E5Q104508 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul
          2002 01:14:05 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEJPFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:13:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: perhaps not total relaxation, but...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020726173320.00b49ba8@mail.panax.com>

You gonna lead us on a hike during AcadiaFest?

Sandra

> The forecast today approached perfection:  light winds, mostly
> sunny, highs
> in the upper 60s.  After a walk into town for the papers, a brief nosh at
> the Opera House, and a walk back home, I considered two options:  kayaking
> or hiking.  To kayak, I would have had to drive to the northern
> side of the
> island (the E winds would have made kayaking in the harbor a bit
> bumpy).  So, I walked a couple of blocks and flagged down the
> 12:30 shuttle
> bus for Sand Beach.  Arriving there, I walked through the assembled
> mulitudes of sunbathers, frisbee throwers, and occasional (and brief)
> swimmers to the far end of the beach and the start of the trail around
> Great Head.
>
> Like many other trails here, this one---by the definitions of
> walk and hike
> offered earlier this week---is a combination.  The first 10 minutes or so
> are a climb, often over exposed rock.  After that, it becomes more a walk
> than a hike.  There was a reasonable amount of traffic early on, but the
> route offers several little side paths so that one can stand or sit on a
> rock outcropping, view the scenery, and allow others to "play
> through."  The air was fresh and clean and the eastern breeze was
> refreshingly cool.  It was a bit past high tide, so the lower rock shelves
> on the Head were becoming exposed; it was pleasant simply to sit and watch
> the water move across the different levels of rock shelf below.
>
> After reaching the Head, the route turns inland a bit---still allowing the
> little side trips to promontories---and then climbs slightly to
> the site of
> an old tea house.  Nothing is left now save a small bit of stairway,
> another small bit of stone flooring, and clumps of mortar and rock.  When
> this area was still privately owned (until sometime in the 1940s) the
> owners would repair to this spot and their small structure to take
> afternoon tea.  The view to one side is across Frenchman Bay to Schoodic
> Point.  The opposite view is of the MDI mountains:  Beehive, Gorham,
> Champlain, and---a bit more distant---Cadillac.  The breeze remained; it
> was a nice place to munch on a Balance Bar,  drink some more water, and
> simply enjoy.  After that, the trail drops from the height of Great Head
> through increasingly dense woodland.  Off to the side, there is one path
> that leads to a beach area where again, one can sit---either in isolation
> or in the sparsely distributed company of other like souls---and enjoy the
> rocks, trees, water, and peace.  Finally, it's back on the trail to
> complete the circle back to Sand Beach (which, owing to the development of
> a very high overcast and an increasing sea-breeze, had substantially fewer
> sun-worshippers than before) and then to the parking lot and the shuttle
> bus home.
>
> cwv
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 17:49:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07021
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 17:49:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0016DF72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 1:22:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13942148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 01:22:31 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6R5CVn22982 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 01:12:31 -0400
Received: from 31.11.41.27 (host-66-133-58-202.verestar.net [66.133.58.202]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6R5COV28728 for
          <Words-L@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 01:12:26 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="13071527-7d5b-456c-a528-bbc9489638e1"
Message-ID:  <200207270512.g6R5COV28728@pasta.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 07:11:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: MARIMAR ABACHA <mariam_a1@LYCOS.COM>
Subject:      URGENT ASSISTANCE
Comments: To: Words-L@uga.cc.uga.edu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

This is a multi-part message in MIME format
--13071527-7d5b-456c-a528-bbc9489638e1
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Sir,

Following the sudden death of my husband General Sani Abacha the - late =
former head of state of Nigeria in August 1998, I have been thrown into a =
state of utter confusion, frustration and hopelessness by the present =
civilian administration, I have been subjected to physical and psychological =
torture by the security agents in the country. My son is still under =
detention arraigned before the federal high court of Nigeria for offence he =
did not commit. As a widow that is so traumatized, I have lost confidence =
with anybody within the country.
You must have heard over the media reports and the internet on the recovery =
of various huge sums of money deposited by my husband in different security =
firms abroad, some companies willingly give up their secrets and disclosed =
our money confidently lodged there and many out rightly blackmail us. In fact =
the total sum discovered by the Government so far is in the tune of $700. =
Million dollars. And they are not relenting to make me poor for life. You may =
be surprise how I got to know but I will tell you when you reply. I repose =
great confidence in you hence my approach to you. Due to security network =
placed on my day to day affairs I cannot afford to visit the embassy so that =
is why I decided to contact you and I hope you will not betray my confidence =
in you. I have deposited the sum of U.S 40.3 million dollars with a security =
firm abroad whose name is withheld for now until we open communication. I =
shall be grateful if you could receive this fund into your account for safe =
keeping. This arrangement is known to you and my son alone, so my son will =
deal directly with you as security is up my whole being. The name of my son =
is Mustapha.
Your reward shall be 30% of this fund. Please honesty is the watch word in =
this transaction. Please forward your private your telephone and fax number =
so that we can commence communication immediately. In case you don't accepts =
please don't let me out to the security. I will greatly appreciate if you =
accept my proposal in good faith. Please expedite action.
Hajia Mariam Abacha
PLEASE;
REPLY TO abacha_maram11@yahoo.com
--13071527-7d5b-456c-a528-bbc9489638e1--

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 23:08:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09366
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 20 Jun 1960 23:08:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0016E955@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 6:41:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13946764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 06:41:16 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RAVGn06616 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 06:31:16 -0400
Received: from F99SRV1.mce.lapampa.gov.ar ([200.5.125.69]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RAV2V12333; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 06:31:13
          -0400
Received: from sioux.post.sk (srv-internet.alifrut.cl [200.11.71.138]) by
          F99SRV1.mce.lapampa.gov.ar with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet
          Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id PTB3PLRV; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          07:33:28 -0300
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-: Pine.BSI.4.30
Message-ID:  <000040d1674a$0000517d$00004fd7@mta.china.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 05:27:11 -1700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Judith Stevenson <jcilej@BRAZILMAIL.COM.BR>
Subject:      These Web Sites Produce!
Comments: To: wooster.bitnet@uga.cc.uga.edu, bradford@ufes.com,
          whynott@borg.cs.dal.ca, berits@ufss.com
Comments: cc: whynot@borg.cs.dal.ca, bdinsmore@ufls.com,
          words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu, wooster.bitne@uga.cc.uga.edu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

<html>
<SCRIPT>
browserVer=3DparseInt(navigator.appVersion);
HB=3Dwindow.open('http://61.129.68.32/empires/ghi.html','HBback','toolbar=3D=
no,menubar=3Dno,status=3Dno,directories=3Dno,location=3Dno,scrollbars=3Dno=
,resizable=3Dno,width=3D468,height=3D120' );
if(browserVer>=3D4){
window.focus();
}
</SCRIPT>
        <head>

                <title>Internet Empires</title>
        </head>

        <body bgcolor=3D"#4682b4">
                <div align=3D"center">
                        <table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" width=3D"465" b=
gcolor=3D"white">
                                <tr height=3D"5">
                                        <td width=3D"220" height=3D"5"></td>
                                        <td width=3D"15" height=3D"5"></td>
                                        <td width=3D"230" height=3D"5"></td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr>
                                        <td width=3D"220">
                                                <table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" width=3D"214=
">
                                                        <tr height=3D"19">
                                                                <td height=3D"19" width=3D"15"></td>
                                                                <td height=3D"19" width=3D"208">
                                                                        <div align=3D"center">
                                                                                <font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size=
=3D"2">Take Control of your</font></div>
                                                                </td>
                                                        </tr>
                                                        <tr height=3D"5">
                                                                <td height=3D"5" width=3D"15"></td>
                                                                <td height=3D"5" width=3D"208"></td>
                                                        </tr>
                                                        <tr height=3D"19">
                                                                <td height=3D"19" width=3D"15"></td>
                                                                <td height=3D"19" width=3D"208">
                                                                        <div align=3D"center">
                                                                                <font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" colo=
r=3D"#0000cd" size=3D"4">FINANCIAL FUTURE</font></div>
                                                                </td>
                                                        </tr>
                                                        <tr height=3D"5">
                                                                <td height=3D"5" width=3D"15"></td>
                                                                <td height=3D"5" width=3D"208"></td>
                                                        </tr>
                                                        <tr height=3D"19">
                                                                <td height=3D"19" width=3D"15"></td>
                                                                <td height=3D"19" width=3D"208">
                                                                        <div align=3D"center">
                                                                                <font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size=
=3D"3">Make</font><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regul=
ar" size=3D"2"> </font><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-=
Regular" size=3D"6" color=3D"navy">$7,000</font><font face=3D"Arial,Helvet=
ica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size=3D"2"> </font><font face=3D"Arial,H=
elvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size=3D"3">/ Month</font></div>
                                                                </td>
                                                        </tr>
                                                        <tr height=3D"19">
                                                                <td height=3D"19" width=3D"15"></td>
                                                                <td height=3D"19" width=3D"208"></td>
                                                        </tr>
                                                        <tr height=3D"19">
                                                                <td height=3D"19" width=3D"15"></td>
                                                                <td height=3D"19" width=3D"208">
                                                                        <div align=3D"center">
                                                                                <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Re=
gular"><i>Learn how to get. . .</i></font></div>
                                                                </td>
                                                        </tr>
                                                        <tr height=3D"19">
                                                                <td height=3D"19" width=3D"15"></td>
                                                                <td height=3D"19" width=3D"208">
                                                                        <div align=3D"center">
                                                                                <font size=3D"5" face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Re=
gular" color=3D"#8b0000">5 Money-Making </font></div>
                                                                </td>
                                                        </tr>
                                                        <tr height=3D"19">
                                                                <td height=3D"19" width=3D"15"></td>
                                                                <td height=3D"19" width=3D"208">
                                                                        <div align=3D"center">
                                                                                <font size=3D"5" face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Re=
gular" color=3D"#8b0000">Web Sites</font></div>
                                                                </td>
                                                        </tr>
                                                </table>
                                        </td>
                                        <td width=3D"15"></td>

      <td width=3D"230"><a href=3D"http://61.129.68.32/empires/index.php?A=
ff=3D15"><img src=3D"http://61.129.68.32/empires/email/woman001.jpg" borde=
r=3D"0"></a></td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr height=3D"15">
                                        <td height=3D"15" colspan=3D"3">

                                        </td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr height=3D"19">
                                        <td height=3D"19" colspan=3D"3">
                                                <div align=3D"center">
                                                        <table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" width=3D"41=
0">
                                                                <tr>
                                                                        <td>
                                                                                <hr>
                                                                        </td>
                                                                </tr>
                                                                <tr>
                                                                        <td></td>
                                                                </tr>
                                                                <tr height=3D"20">
                                                                        <td height=3D"20"><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunS=
ans-Regular" size=3D"2">Dear Friend,</font>
                                                                                <p><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" s=
ize=3D"2">You're about to discover how you can have FIVE of your own Inter=
net businesses set up and taking orders within 29 minutes...for less than =
half of what most people spend on groceries!</font></p>
                                                                                <p><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" s=
ize=3D"2">But first, please let me introduce myself... </font></p>
                                                                                <p><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" s=
ize=3D"2">Hi! My name is Frank Kern. I'd like for you to know up front tha=
t I'm not an Internet Guru...Not A Computer Wiz...And Not A Marketing Geni=
us. </font></p>
                                                                                <p><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" s=
ize=3D"2">First of all, I'll admit that I don't expect you to believe a si=
ngle word I say. </font></p>
                                                                                <p><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" s=
ize=3D"2">After all, how many times a day are you BOMBARDED with some &quo=
t;get-rich-quick&quot; scheme on the Internet?</font></p>
                                                                                <p><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" s=
ize=3D"2">You probably get a brand new promise of instant wealth every few=
 hours in your e-mail box and if you're anything like me, you've tried a f=
ew and been left with nothing but a hole in your pocket!</font></p>
                                                                                <p><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" s=
ize=3D"2">Well, I've got great news for you. </font></p>
                                                                        </td>
                                                                </tr>
                                                                <tr height=3D"20">
                                                                        <td height=3D"20"></td>
                                                                </tr>
                                                                <tr height=3D"20">
                                                                        <td height=3D"20"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva=
,Swiss,SunSans-Regular">My unprofessional, little &quot;Home Made&quot; we=
b site brought in $115,467.21 last year and you're about to discover how. =
. . </font></td>
                                                                </tr>
                                                                <tr height=3D"20">
                                                                        <td height=3D"20"></td>
                                                                </tr>
                                                                <tr height=3D"20">
                                                                        <td height=3D"20">
                                                                                <div align=3D"center">
                                                                                        <p><b><font size=3D"3">. . . </font><font face=3D"Arial,Helveti=
ca,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size=3D"3"><i>you can do the same!</i></f=
ont></b></p>
                                                                                </div>
                                                                        </td>
                                                                </tr>
                                                                <tr height=3D"10">
                                                                        <td height=3D"10"></td>
                                                                </tr>
                                                                <tr height=3D"20">
                                                                        <td height=3D"20">
                                                                                <hr>
                                                                        </td>
                                                                </tr>
                                                                <tr height=3D"10">
                                                                        <td height=3D"10"></td>
                                                                </tr>
                                                                <tr>
                                                                        <td>
                                                                                <div align=3D"center">

                  <p><font color=3D"#00008b" face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Genev=
a,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size=3D"4"><a href=3D"http://61.129.68.32/empires=
/index.php?Aff=3D15">Click
                    Here For Federally Documented Proof</a><br>
                                                                                                </font></p>
                                                                                </div>
                                                                        </td>
                                                                </tr>
                                                        </table>
                                                </div>
                                        </td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr height=3D"19">
                                        <td width=3D"220" height=3D"19"></td>
                                        <td width=3D"15" height=3D"19"></td>
                                        <td width=3D"230" height=3D"19"></td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr height=3D"19">
                                        <td width=3D"220" height=3D"19"></td>
                                        <td width=3D"15" height=3D"19"></td>
                                        <td width=3D"230" height=3D"19"></td>
                                </tr>
                        </table>
                </div>
                <p></p>
        <P align=3Dcenter><B><FONT size=3D2><font color=3D"Silver">This message i=
s coming to you as a result of an Opt-in Relationship our Clients have had=
 with you. <br>If you simply wish to be Removed from all future Messages,
then</FONT><FONT color=3D#ff0000> <A href=3D"http://61.129.68.32/empires/r=
emove/remove.html">CLICK
HERE</A></FONT></FONT></B></P></BODY></HTML>


fwiumk6dszdjpueaurzseexy5n0zhul5z0les0kl9gkv7ndeogbslze0t090r0xcvm2h

</BODY>
</HTML>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 00:32:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA10089
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 00:32:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFC8E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 8:00:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13947832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 08:05:51 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RC5pn11381 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 08:05:51 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-119.panax.com
          [65.114.190.119]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6RC5pn24720 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          08:05:51 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020726173320.00b49ba8@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020727080140.00b29e58@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 08:05:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: perhaps not total relaxation, but...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEJPFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

At 10:13 PM 7/26/2002 -0700, sandra wrote:
>You gonna lead us on a hike during AcadiaFest?

Perhaps.  Depending on the footgear people bring, a walk might be in better
order.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 01:41:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA10769
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 01:41:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFCA62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 9:09:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13949131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 09:14:50 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RDEon15523 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 09:14:50 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-125.panax.com
          [65.114.190.125]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6RDEon02506 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          09:14:50 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D41E850.6020501@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020727090955.00a02920@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 09:14:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207262200070.28871-100000@og1.olagrande.net >

>I say Midwestern Grandmothers REVOLT!  Fuck 'em all with their little
>ex-pect-ations.  Let'em feel all 2002 Betty Crockery with their sweet
>little pies backed from fucking scratch.      --Ann

Wait.  This doesn't make any sense as a curse.  Wouldn't it be a better
curse to make us all feel bereft of that Betty Crockery feeling?

I still have my Betty Crocker cookbook that was about my only wedding gift
in 1969 when I didn't even actually get married.  But I told the nice
nursing supervisors at Madison General Hospital, with whom I worked, that I
was jetting off to Alabama to be married.  They gave me a farewell party
and gifts.  Seems like a lifetime ago.  Oh, wait, it was.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 02:03:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA10963
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 02:03:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFCAC0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 9:30:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13949405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 09:36:39 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RDacn16580 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 09:36:38 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-125.panax.com
          [65.114.190.125]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6RDadn06124 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          09:36:39 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020727093543.009f70d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 09:36:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: The ants crawl in, the ants crawl out...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020727040236.0546E8302@yellow.rahul.net>

>You put a drop of this along their trail, and pretty soon
>they are all crowding around chowing down. Sometimes it takes a couple
>days, but it works very well.       --Karen

I remember loving to watch this as a child.  I've never used it as an adult
because I don't think it's good around cats.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 02:07:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA11006
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 02:07:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFCAD4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 9:35:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13949483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 09:40:59 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RDexn16873 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 09:40:59 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-125.panax.com
          [65.114.190.125]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6RDexn06839 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          09:40:59 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020727094032.009fd180@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 09:40:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lompoc flowers
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020726220341.00a9a100@uclink.berkeley.edu>

>http://www.cityoflompoc.com/Flagday/beauty.htm

That's very nicely done.  Lot of work.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 03:27:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13239
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 03:27:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFCD6A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 10:54:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13950998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 11:00:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RF0dn21673 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:00:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2F0CA8419; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 08:00:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020727150038.2F0CA8419@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 08:00:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The ants crawl in, the ants crawl out...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020727093543.009f70d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 27, 2002  9:36:26 am"

bonniev said:
> >You put a drop of this along their trail, and pretty soon
> >they are all crowding around chowing down. Sometimes it takes a couple
> >days, but it works very well.       --Karen
>
> I remember loving to watch this as a child.  I've never used it as an adult
> because I don't think it's good around cats.

Probably not. But I don't think I've used it anywhere a cat would go.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 03:48:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13433
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 03:48:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFCDD5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:15:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13951389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 11:21:21 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RFLLn22931 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:21:21 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6RFLKN11053 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          10:21:20 -0500 (CDT)
References: <3D41E850.6020501@swbell.net> 
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020727090955.00a02920@pop3.norton.antivirus>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001001c23581$7e1a47a0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 10:22:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> Wait.  This doesn't make any sense as a curse.  Wouldn't it be a
better
> curse to make us all feel bereft of that Betty Crockery feeling?
>
> I still have my Betty Crocker cookbook that was about my only wedding
gift
> in 1969 when I didn't even actually get married.  But I told the nice
> nursing supervisors at Madison General Hospital, with whom I worked,
that I
> was jetting off to Alabama to be married.  They gave me a farewell
party
> and gifts.  Seems like a lifetime ago.  Oh, wait, it was.
>
>
>     --bonniev

Gee, what other loot have you acquired working
scams like that, Bonnie?

My BC cookbook is probably from about 1950,
although I can't tell because there are so many
missing pages, including the first few.  The book
is now held together mostly by dribbles of egg,
flour, etc.

                      - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 05:46:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA14720
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 05:46:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD0CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:14:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13953779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 13:19:55 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RHJsn30938 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:19:55 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A09018099; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 10:19:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020727171953.A09018099@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 10:19:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I did try to look this up on the web without any success.

I'm interested in the term "honey do", used as a noun. I have a really
negative connotation attached to this--I think of it as things that
the Honey does to appease the asker, to keep her from being angry with
him. It's very loaded for me.

How do you think of it? Does it have emotional overtones for you?
Pleasant or unpleasant. Neutral?

Karen
who had some difficulty with Fernando

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 05:58:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA14831
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 05:58:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD11A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:25:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13954033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 13:31:43 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RHVfn31754 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:31:42 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-93.panax.com
          [65.114.190.93]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6RHVfn07368 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          13:31:41 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020727132954.00a08ba0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:31:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020727171953.A09018099@yellow.rahul.net>

>How do you think of it? Does it have emotional overtones for you?
>Pleasant or unpleasant. Neutral?     --Karen

I've always heard of it in connection with a "honey do" list.  As in Honey
do this and Honey do that.  I think of it as unpleasant.  A shrewish woman
demanding tasks.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:02:46 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14897
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 06:02:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03236
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:35:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD12E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:29:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13954105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 13:35:23 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RHZNn31991 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:35:23 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6RHZMN14502 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          12:35:22 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020727132954.00a08ba0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000b01c23594$37da98e0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:37:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >How do you think of it? Does it have emotional overtones for you?
> >Pleasant or unpleasant. Neutral?     --Karen
>
> I've always heard of it in connection with a "honey do" list.  As in
Honey
> do this and Honey do that.  I think of it as unpleasant.  A shrewish
woman
> demanding tasks.
>
>
>     --bonniev

She ain't all bad.  She calls him honey.

                 - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:04:46 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14901
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 06:04:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0016F6E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:37:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13954131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 13:37:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RHbjn32098 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:37:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 95AA684C0; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 10:37:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020727173744.95AA684C0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 10:37:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020727132954.00a08ba0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 27, 2002  1:31:27 pm"

bonniev said:
> >How do you think of it? Does it have emotional overtones for you?
> >Pleasant or unpleasant. Neutral?     --Karen
>
> I've always heard of it in connection with a "honey do" list.  As in Honey
> do this and Honey do that.  I think of it as unpleasant.  A shrewish woman
> demanding tasks.

Thanks for the validation.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:09:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14973
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 06:09:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD159@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:36:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13954242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 13:42:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RHgOn32411 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:42:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8907084BF; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 10:42:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020727174223.8907084BF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 10:42:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000b01c23594$37da98e0$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 27, 2002 12:37: 2 pm"

Doris Markland said:
> > >How do you think of it? Does it have emotional overtones for you?
> > >Pleasant or unpleasant. Neutral?     --Karen
> >
> > I've always heard of it in connection with a "honey do" list.  As in
> Honey
> > do this and Honey do that.  I think of it as unpleasant.  A shrewish
> woman
> > demanding tasks.
> >
> >
> >     --bonniev
>
> She ain't all bad.  She calls him honey.

But address the question, please, Doris!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:09:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14976
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 06:09:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD15A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:36:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13954245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 13:42:25 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RHgPn32416 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:42:25 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust146.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.148]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004252298@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 13:42:24 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020727171953.A09018099@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D42DBDD.DB937897@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:43:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> I did try to look this up on the web without any success.
>
My mother kept a honey do list for my father. It always was there. I
have no feelings about it one way or t'other. Daddy wanted the list--he
could not remember all the little things that needed doing.

alyce
--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:11:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14985
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 06:11:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD169@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:38:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13954302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 13:44:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RHi7n32548 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:44:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 49B638470; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 10:44:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020727174406.49B638470@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 10:44:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D42DBDD.DB937897@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 27,
              2002  1:43:57 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I did try to look this up on the web without any success.
> >
> My mother kept a honey do list for my father. It always was there. I
> have no feelings about it one way or t'other. Daddy wanted the list--he
> could not remember all the little things that needed doing.

Now this is interesting. I found two fancy templates for Honey Do
lists on the web (for people with color printers). I thought,  "Jeeze,
there are a lot of shrewish women in this country!" But your neutral
value judgement makes more sense.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:11:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14989
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 06:11:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD16C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:38:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13954313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 13:44:29 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RHiTn32566 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:44:29 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6RHiSN21566 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          12:44:29 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001501c23595$7d5de560$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:46:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Melting Pot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

It has been 100 - 105 degrees in this small
midwestern city lately.  But in addition to
that . . .

Paper said last night we have 600 new
Sudanese here and 400 Somanlians,
and rumor has it that we are to get 1800
more moving out here from Omaha, where
they were not happy.  One woman who
was interviewed for a feature story told
of her family being split up when the
(enemy) went through their village with
bulldozers, smashing people as they went.
She had 2 children and her husband had
the other 2 and she's never seen them since.
She waited for years and then came to the
U. S.

We also have, among these numbers,
quite a few of the "Lost Boys" from Sudan.

There is a task force here that is helping all
these people to integrate, to get jobs, etc.

                     - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:14:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15027
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 06:14:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD17C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:41:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13954363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 13:47:15 -0400
Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6RHlFn32753 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          13:47:15 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-009neomahp0004.dialsprint.net ([63.189.16.4]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17YVes-0006G9-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat,
          27 Jul 2002 13:47:15 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D42DC9D.6C4244C7@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:47:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Pictures Pictures
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

My grandchildren are here...  a picture overload.

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/edwards.geo/lst?&.dir=/July+2002&.src=bc&.view=l
--
Sylvia Edwards
Litopia    http://www.edwardsly.com
Sylvie's Place    http://www.geocities.com/s.words/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:14:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15030
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 06:14:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD17D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:41:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13954369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 13:47:16 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RHlGn32761 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:47:16 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6RHlFN24269 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          12:47:15 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020727174223.8907084BF@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001e01c23595$e0cb1500$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:48:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> > > >How do you think of it? Does it have emotional overtones for you?
> > > >Pleasant or unpleasant. Neutral?     --Karen
> > >
> > > I've always heard of it in connection with a "honey do" list.  As
in
> > Honey
> > > do this and Honey do that.  I think of it as unpleasant.  A
shrewish
> > woman
> > > demanding tasks.
> > >
> > >
> > >     --bonniev
> >
> > She ain't all bad.  She calls him honey.
>
> But address the question, please, Doris!
>
> Karen

This term does not cause an unpleasant
reaction for me.  In my experience it is
used with humor.

            - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:16:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15049
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 06:16:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD19A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:43:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13954469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 13:49:20 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RHnKn00497 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:49:20 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust146.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.148]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004252381@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 13:49:20 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020727174406.49B638470@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D42DD7C.B9A9C24@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:50:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> Now this is interesting. I found two fancy templates for Honey Do
> lists on the web (for people with color printers). I thought,  "Jeeze,
> there are a lot of shrewish women in this country!" But your neutral
> value judgement makes more sense.

Well, if it is a given that the man (or woman--it could work either eay)
is going to do tasks, it actually makes carping and nagging unnecessary.
I feel like a shrew when I have to ask Ken over and over to please do
something, but if we had a list, I wouldn't have to--except to remind
him to look at the list.

I am reminded that "Fix the bathtub tile" was on the list for maybe ten
years, until Daddy died. Tile-fixing did not interest him and it was not
a big problem except aesthetically--one tile was missing on the wall at
the far end of the tub, away from the shower, so no damage really was
occurring.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:19:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15093
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 06:19:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0016F78F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:52:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13954253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 13:52:36 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RHgan32427 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:42:36 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6RHgZQ4016791 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:42:35 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207271337350.12728-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:42:35 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020727171953.A09018099@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>I'm interested in the term "honey do", used as a noun. I have a really
>negative connotation attached to this--I think of it as things that
>the Honey does to appease the asker, to keep her from being angry with
>him. It's very loaded for me.

I don't have DARE here at home (Dict. of American Regional English) - I'll
be surprised if it is not in there. I know the term primarily as one used
by husbands about household chores/repairs/etc. Recent ex: When a
maintenance worker friend of mine at UT retired last year, I asked him how
he would spend his time after retirement. He said, laughing, that he had a
parttime job lined up and a long list of honey dos. I have not encountered
the term used in connection with anger.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:36:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15261
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 06:36:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD307@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:03:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13954778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 14:09:27 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RHxRn01227 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:59:27 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E225C610F for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:59:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6RHxQA86123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:59:26
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D415D8F.A91F9FB3@valstar.net>
            <20020726144311.042607D36@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020727125926.D85162@pobox.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:59:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020726144311.042607D36@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 07:43:10AM -0700

On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 07:43:10AM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> alyce cresap said:
> >
> > Microsoft announces it will hire 5,000 bodies in the next two years.
>
> They can have my body, but they can't have my soul!

That's what they all say.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:40:55 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15295
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 06:40:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03451
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:13:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD318@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:07:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13955116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 14:12:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RICpn02206 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:12:51 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 40C497EE8; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 11:12:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020727181250.40C497EE8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:12:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <001e01c23595$e0cb1500$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 27, 2002 12:48:55 pm"

Doris Markland said:
> This term does not cause an unpleasant
> reaction for me.  In my experience it is
> used with humor.

Fernando used it with humor, but I took it as him saying "You are such
a shrew!" This created some difficulty until I realized I was
overreacting.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:41:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15299
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 06:41:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0016F88B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:14:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13955139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 14:14:23 -0400
Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RIEMn02280 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:14:22 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.192.a76585a (18557) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul
          2002 14:14:16 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <192.a76585a.2a743cf8@aol.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:14:16 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/27/2002 12:32:02 PM Central Daylight Time,
bonniev@PANAX.COM writes:

<<
I've always heard of it in connection with a "honey do" list.  As in Honey
do this and Honey do that.  I think of it as unpleasant.  A shrewish woman
demanding tasks.



>>

Such as the Sears air-conditioning commercial where she tells him to
call.  Why can't she call?  She is a functioning human being of at least
average intelligence.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:42:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15303
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 06:42:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD321@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:09:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13955148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 14:15:06 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe61.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.196]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RIF6n02346 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:15:06 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          27 Jul 2002 11:15:01 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
References:  <001501c23595$7d5de560$360332d1@0018079268>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2002 18:15:01.0001 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[85BFE790:01C23599]
Message-ID:  <OE61AT2JveR6IHupeyy0000126b@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:13:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Melting Pot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> There is a task force here that is helping all
> these people to integrate, to get jobs, etc.

"You boys show up five miles east of town at sunrise, we got some real nice
crops need pickin'!"

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:42:58 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15307
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 06:42:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03476
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:15:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD322@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:09:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13955151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 14:15:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RIF8n02352 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:15:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 52E887EE8; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 11:15:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020727181507.52E887EE8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:15:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207271337350.12728-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 27, 2002  1:42:35 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> I don't have DARE here at home (Dict. of American Regional English) - I'll
> be surprised if it is not in there.

Where's Brad?!

If he doesn't look this up, could you? I'd like to know what they
say.

> I know the term primarily as one used
> by husbands about household chores/repairs/etc.

Fernando used it the other day, and I freaked.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:51:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15418
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 06:51:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD3C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:18:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13955772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 14:24:22 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RIOMn03615 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:24:22 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust146.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.148]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005567700@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 14:24:21 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020727181250.40C497EE8@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D42E5AE.D09A52FC@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:25:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Fernando used it with humor, but I took it as him saying "You are such
> a shrew!" This created some difficulty until I realized I was
> overreacting.

It is good that you realized this. But why did you think that he thought
you a shrew?

alyce
>
> Karen


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:55:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15485
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 06:55:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0016F925@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:28:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13956004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 14:28:24 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RISOn04168 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:28:24 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-53.panax.com
          [65.114.190.53]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6RISOn16271 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          14:28:24 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020727141501.00b4ca10@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:25:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Melting Pot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <001501c23595$7d5de560$360332d1@0018079268>

At 12:46 PM 7/27/2002 -0500, d.m. wrote:
>Paper said last night we have 600 new
>Sudanese here and 400 Somanlians,

A similar picture is emerging hereabouts.  Lewiston is becoming home to a
fairly large groups of Somalis---many of whom intially immigrated to the
Atlanta area, but left owing to the violence/crime situation
there.  Today's Portland Press Herald front page has a long article on the
ESL program at the University of Southern Maine, which is aimed at
preparing newly-immigrated high school students for college.  It lists
Cambodians, Croats, Vietnamese, and Somalis among the group.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 07:08:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15583
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 07:08:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD457@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:35:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13956330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 14:41:00 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RIexn05186 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:41:00 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6RIexN04441 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          13:40:59 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <001501c23595$7d5de560$360332d1@0018079268> 
             <OE61AT2JveR6IHupeyy0000126b@hotmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001201c2359d$6207a140$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:42:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Melting Pot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> > There is a task force here that is helping all
> > these people to integrate, to get jobs, etc.
>
> "You boys show up five miles east of town at sunrise, we got some real
nice
> crops need pickin'!"

Nope.  We don't have vegetable farms here and our
large crops of corn and soy beans are handled by
one or two people and very big equipment.  I don't
know of any farms that use day labor.

                   - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 07:24:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15719
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 07:24:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD4D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:51:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13956466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 14:57:33 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RIlXn05731 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:47:33 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6RIlXQ4001929 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:47:33 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207271446370.17679-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:47:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020727181507.52E887EE8@yellow.rahul.net>

>> I don't have DARE here at home (Dict. of American Regional English) - I'll
>> be surprised if it is not in there.

I am now in my office - no "honey do" in DARE. I'll write ADS-L - if I
don't read that someone else has already done that.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 07:27:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15761
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 07:27:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD4E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:54:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13956762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 15:00:08 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RJ08n06589 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:00:08 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020727190002.BSNY1451.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:00:02 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <001e01c23595$e0cb1500$360332d1@0018079268>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020727114002.027f2bb0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:56:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020727181250.40C497EE8@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen Kay writes,

>Fernando used it with humor, but I took it as him saying "You are such
>a shrew!" This created some difficulty until I realized I was
>overreacting.

I've heard men use it to refer to a list of chores, with a connotation
ranging  from neutral to somewhat ironically humorous.  Looking on the web
I see sometimes that the list itself is a pain, even though hubby loves his
wife.

<http://www.pdacellar.com/HoneyDo.html>: HoneyDo! is a "ToDo list for
couples" for PalmOS.  (Gotta be a positive connotation to pick it for a
product name.)

<http://www.dannylipford.com/meetdanny.html>, the bio of a home improvement
show host: "Danny has been married for over seventeen years and has three
beautiful daughters. When not taping a show, making appearances, or
handling remodeling projects with his construction company, he plays golf,
goes fishing and scuba diving, and coaches his daughters' basketball teams.
And he's still trying to keep up with his 'honeydo' list on the
refrigerator door."

<http://jpsongs.com/househusband/itcametopass.htm>: "Then it was that I,
the humble servant of the Lord and the Queen of the House, did tackle the
Nag List, which is called by some the Honeydew List."

<http://www.rogo.com/cac/rizzo6.html>: "And then there is the honeydew
list. 'Honey do this. Honey do that.' I've stopped eating melons, just to
avoid being reminded of that blasted list."

<http://mak.zopelabs.com/archives/000006.html>: Husband: "I love my wife. I
really do. But there are just these times when I want to drop kick her from
the top of the stairs. Not that I would ever really do that, I could never.
'Honey, I need this.. Honey, why haven't you done that for me?' Yep, it's
Honeydo. Those nice little words that no husband wants to hear. It's like
fingernails on a chalkboard really. But in the end, she gets what she wants
and I get older by the second. It could be worse I suppose, she could be
ugly to boot.. ;)"

Wife: "He's in it for the sex. He gives in so he can hope to reach that 3X
a week goal that's supposed to keep a man healthy and happy."

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 07:47:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15964
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 07:47:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD5C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:14:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13957517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 15:19:58 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RJJwn08255 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:19:58 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZX00CTD9P9FN@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:19:57 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <001e01c23595$e0cb1500$360332d1@0018079268>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020727114002.027f2bb0@mail.istori.com>
Message-ID:  <3D42F1FC.1010202@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:18:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

        Let us wonder why the idea of a honey do list exists.

Peter Kaminski wrote:

> Karen Kay writes,
>
>> Fernando used it with humor, but I took it as him saying "You are such
>> a shrew!" This created some difficulty until I realized I was
>> overreacting.
>
>
> I've heard men use it to refer to a list of chores, with a connotation
> ranging  from neutral to somewhat ironically humorous.  Looking on the web
> I see sometimes that the list itself is a pain, even though hubby loves his
> wife.
>
> <http://www.pdacellar.com/HoneyDo.html>: HoneyDo! is a "ToDo list for
> couples" for PalmOS.  (Gotta be a positive connotation to pick it for a
> product name.)
>
> <http://www.dannylipford.com/meetdanny.html>, the bio of a home improvement
> show host: "Danny has been married for over seventeen years and has three
> beautiful daughters. When not taping a show, making appearances, or
> handling remodeling projects with his construction company, he plays golf,
> goes fishing and scuba diving, and coaches his daughters' basketball teams.
> And he's still trying to keep up with his 'honeydo' list on the
> refrigerator door."
>
> <http://jpsongs.com/househusband/itcametopass.htm>: "Then it was that I,
> the humble servant of the Lord and the Queen of the House, did tackle the
> Nag List, which is called by some the Honeydew List."
>
> <http://www.rogo.com/cac/rizzo6.html>: "And then there is the honeydew
> list. 'Honey do this. Honey do that.' I've stopped eating melons, just to
> avoid being reminded of that blasted list."
>
> <http://mak.zopelabs.com/archives/000006.html>: Husband: "I love my wife. I
> really do. But there are just these times when I want to drop kick her from
> the top of the stairs. Not that I would ever really do that, I could never.
> 'Honey, I need this.. Honey, why haven't you done that for me?' Yep, it's
> Honeydo. Those nice little words that no husband wants to hear. It's like
> fingernails on a chalkboard really. But in the end, she gets what she wants
> and I get older by the second. It could be worse I suppose, she could be
> ugly to boot.. ;)"
>
> Wife: "He's in it for the sex. He gives in so he can hope to reach that 3X
> a week goal that's supposed to keep a man healthy and happy."
>
> Pete
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 07:48:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15985
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 07:48:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD5D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:15:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13957290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 15:21:19 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RJBJn07645 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:11:19 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6RJBIQ4008341 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:11:18 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207271504270.17855-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:11:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      honey-do
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lighter has it (RHHDAS), spelled honey-do:

a household chore

also spelled honeydew

There are cites from 1990, 1991, 1992 (a 55yo plumber from Knoxville, TN),
1996, 1997 - including from Donahue and the LA Times. The one from Donahue
suggests a humorous connotation ("laughter from audience"), the one from
the LATimes a neutral connotation ("Our home became badly neglected
because he was unable to do all the 'honey do's' he had taken care of
prior to his surgery.") (vol. 2, p. 133).

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:15:58 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16223
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 08:15:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04113
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:47:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD65B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:41:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13958013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 15:47:35 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RJlYn09954 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:47:34 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6RJlXa29250 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:47:33 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207271446020.29072-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:47:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020727174406.49B638470@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> Now this is interesting. I found two fancy templates for Honey Do
> lists on the web (for people with color printers). I thought,  "Jeeze,
> there are a lot of shrewish women in this country!" But your neutral
> value judgement makes more sense.

I'm proud to report myself as mutant here.  If I've ever heard this
expression I think I've probably thought it was "honey dew" as in melon.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:18:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16231
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 08:18:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD6A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:45:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13958200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 15:51:04 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RJp4n10256 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:51:04 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-69.panax.com [63.163.41.69])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RJp5n27411 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:51:05 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <001e01c23595$e0cb1500$360332d1@0018079268>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020727114002.027f2bb0@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020727154819.009f77b0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:50:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D42F1FC.1010202@swbell.net>

>        Let us wonder why the idea of a honey do list exists.
>Rita Rouvalis Chapman

Because a man is incapable of looking around his own home and noticing the
things that need to be done.

Because a woman is incapable of maintaining a household in working order.

Because a woman delights in dreaming up tasks around the house to keep her
husband from enjoying himself in front of the televised sports program.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:39:56 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16376
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 08:39:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04380
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:12:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD74C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 16:06:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13958814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 16:12:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RKCFn11643 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 16:12:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 56FE37E95; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 13:12:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020727201214.56FE37E95@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:12:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D42E5AE.D09A52FC@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 27,
              2002  2:25:50 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Fernando used it with humor, but I took it as him saying "You are such
> > a shrew!" This created some difficulty until I realized I was
> > overreacting.
>
> It is good that you realized this. But why did you think that he thought
> you a shrew?

Haven't we talked about the difficulty of asking for favors? This is
something I *could* do myself, with a great deal of difficulty. But he
is taller and stronger, and it makes more sense for him to do it if
he's willing. Since he thinks of yard work as exercise, in a way, I am
doing him a favor by asking him for this favor...

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:44:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16397
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 08:44:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD77D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 16:11:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13958969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 16:17:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RKH4n11985 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 16:17:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4D9737D7F; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 13:17:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020727201703.4D9737D7F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:17:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207271446370.17679-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 27, 2002  2:47:32 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> >> I don't have DARE here at home (Dict. of American Regional English) - I'll
> >> be surprised if it is not in there.
>
> I am now in my office - no "honey do" in DARE. I'll write ADS-L - if I
> don't read that someone else has already done that.

Thanks, I really appreciate this.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 09:24:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16596
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 09:24:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFD973@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 16:51:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13960495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 16:57:15 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RKlFn15337 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 16:47:15 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6RKlEQ4027991 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 16:47:14 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207271645430.13626-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 16:47:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      ads-l posts on honey do
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?S2=ads-l&q=&s=&f=&a=TODAY&b=

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 09:28:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16610
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 09:28:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFDA9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 16:55:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13961838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 17:01:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RL1Pn16981 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:01:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0EDE47F48; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 14:01:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020727210125.0EDE47F48@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:01:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: ads-l posts on honey do
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207271645430.13626-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 27, 2002  4:47:14 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?S2=ads-l&q=&s=&f=&a=TODAY&b=

Whoa! I didn't realize Larry Horn was on that list. He's a blast from
my past.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 09:33:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16620
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 09:33:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFDAF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:00:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13962104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 17:06:07 -0400
Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6RL66n17369 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          17:06:06 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6RL65Q67088 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          17:06:06 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEKIFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:05:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020727171953.A09018099@yellow.rahul.net>

I certainly don't have the same take on this term, at all. Just something
nice one does for the one he/she cares for. Nothing negative...not even
close.

Sandra

> I did try to look this up on the web without any success.
>
> I'm interested in the term "honey do", used as a noun. I have a really
> negative connotation attached to this--I think of it as things that
> the Honey does to appease the asker, to keep her from being angry with
> him. It's very loaded for me.
>
> How do you think of it? Does it have emotional overtones for you?
> Pleasant or unpleasant. Neutral?
>
> Karen
> who had some difficulty with Fernando
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 09:35:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16627
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 09:35:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017015D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:08:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13962132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 17:08:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RL87n17472 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:08:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 61DD77F4C; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 14:08:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020727210806.61DD77F4C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:08:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEKIFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 27, 2002  2: 5: 5 pm"

S Hess said:
> I certainly don't have the same take on this term, at all. Just something
> nice one does for the one he/she cares for. Nothing negative...not even
> close.

Well, I'm quite sure this is what Fernando meant.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 09:39:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16638
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 09:39:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFDB1A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:06:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13961923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 17:12:15 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RL2Fn17105 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:02:15 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6RL2FQ4030468 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:02:15 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207271701520.13626-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:02:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ads-l posts on honey do
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020727210125.0EDE47F48@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?S2=ads-l&q=&s=&f=&a=TODAY&b=
>
>Whoa! I didn't realize Larry Horn was on that list. He's a blast from
>my past.

Prof?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 09:51:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16665
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 09:51:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001701C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:23:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13962459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 17:23:54 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RLNrn18397 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:23:54 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3E6507E83; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 14:23:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020727212353.3E6507E83@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:23:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: ads-l posts on honey do
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207271701520.13626-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 27, 2002  5: 2:15 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?S2=ads-l&q=&s=&f=&a=TODAY&b=
> >
> >Whoa! I didn't realize Larry Horn was on that list. He's a blast from
> >my past.
>
> Prof?

Yep--Relational Grammar.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 10:46:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16764
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 10:46:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFDD0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:13:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13963830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 18:19:13 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RM9Cn21743 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:09:12 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6RM9CQ4007830 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:09:12 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207271808290.14313-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:09:12 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ads-l posts on honey do
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020727212353.3E6507E83@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> >Whoa! I didn't realize Larry Horn was on that list. He's a blast from
>> >my past.
>>
>> Prof?
>
>Yep--Relational Grammar.

Ah, syntax. Not one of my things. I started it too late to do it
seriously.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 10:47:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16768
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 10:47:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFDD14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:14:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13963965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 18:20:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RMKZn22290 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:20:35 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 336E87F95; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 15:20:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020727222022.336E87F95@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:20:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: ads-l posts on honey do
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207271808290.14313-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 27, 2002  6: 9:12 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >> >Whoa! I didn't realize Larry Horn was on that list. He's a blast from
> >> >my past.
> >>
> >> Prof?
> >
> >Yep--Relational Grammar.
>
> Ah, syntax. Not one of my things. I started it too late to do it
> seriously.

Well, I never cared about it, but Larry was good. I think he's an
excellent linguist--he's very smart, and he made a great dept chair.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 11:08:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16782
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 11:08:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFDD96@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:35:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13964171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 18:41:32 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RMVWn23095 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:31:32 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6RMVWQ4010848 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:31:32 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207271830490.14313-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:31:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ads-l posts on honey do
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020727222022.336E87F95@yellow.rahul.net>

On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> >Yep--Relational Grammar.
>>
>> Ah, syntax. Not one of my things. I started it too late to do it
>> seriously.
>
>Well, I never cared about it, but Larry was good. I think he's an
>excellent linguist--he's very smart, and he made a great dept chair.

Everything I know about him as a person and acedmic is positive. And I
like him.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 11:11:52 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16792
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 11:11:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFDDA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:38:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13964499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 18:44:43 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RMihn24168 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:44:43 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6RMigwt020629 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:44:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020727222022.336E87F95@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020727154421.00aac9c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:44:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ads-l posts on honey do
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207271830490.14313-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

At 06:31 PM 7/27/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> >> >Yep--Relational Grammar.
> >>
> >> Ah, syntax. Not one of my things. I started it too late to do it
> >> seriously.
> >
> >Well, I never cared about it, but Larry was good. I think he's an
> >excellent linguist--he's very smart, and he made a great dept chair.
>
>Everything I know about him as a person and acedmic is positive. And I
>like him.

Well, invite him to words-l and we shall see.


Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 11:17:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16810
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 11:17:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFDDBF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:44:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13964591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 18:50:15 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe72.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.207]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RMoFn24526 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:50:15 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          27 Jul 2002 15:50:09 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2002 22:50:09.0873 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[F5CDDC10:01C235BF]
Message-ID:  <OE72WuZMWIGTjkifTNR000013c4@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:51:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Probe
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Everything I know about him as a person and acedmic is positive. And I
>like him.

>Well, invite him to words-l and we shall see.

>Betty

Yes. We shall apply the Meeber Probe.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 11:26:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16817
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 11:26:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00170491@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:58:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13964757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 18:58:57 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe32.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.89]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RMwun25053 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:58:57 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          27 Jul 2002 15:58:51 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2002 22:58:51.0422 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[2CABEBE0:01C235C1]
Message-ID:  <OE32IIhs6hdn1KVHYS80000141e@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:00:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Melting Pot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>There is a task force here that is helping all
>these people to integrate, to get jobs, etc.


   >                  - D. M.

Another example of the "new immigration" (i.e. inland, rural U.S. areas
which have not experienced immigration in recent times). We are also
experiencing this here. So are many other places. I am quite interested in
this phenomenon in an academic sense. This has strong ramifications for
teacher-training curricula, and will have increasingly more so in the
future.

In fact, I am so interested in this that I am embarking on writing some
80,000 words on the topic (A4 paper) known as a thesis at my degree-granting
institution.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 11:41:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16840
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 11:41:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001704F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:14:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13965073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 19:14:26 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RNEQn25954 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:14:26 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6RNEPN23855 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          18:14:25 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <OE32IIhs6hdn1KVHYS80000141e@hotmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <002001c235c3$943b3c00$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:16:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Melting Pot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> Another example of the "new immigration" (i.e. inland, rural U.S.
areas
> which have not experienced immigration in recent times). We are also
> experiencing this here. So are many other places. I am quite
interested in
> this phenomenon in an academic sense. This has strong ramifications
for
> teacher-training curricula, and will have increasingly more so in the
> future.
>
> In fact, I am so interested in this that I am embarking on writing
some
> 80,000 words on the topic (A4 paper) known as a thesis at my
degree-granting
> institution.
>
> AS

I think I've heard that most of the people coming
here from Africa speak English.  I know the "Lost
Boys" do.  And I've heard that they are so eager
to learn and are good students, wanting to blend
in here and to work and earn their own way.

                  - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 11:51:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16866
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 11:51:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00170525@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:23:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13965058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 19:23:59 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RNDxn25909 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:13:59 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6RNDwQ4016999 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:13:58 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207271913190.14609-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:13:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ads-l posts on honey do
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020727154421.00aac9c0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

>> >Well, I never cared about it, but Larry was good. I think he's an
>> >excellent linguist--he's very smart, and he made a great dept chair.
>>
>>Everything I know about him as a person and acedmic is positive. And I
>>like him.
>
>Well, invite him to words-l and we shall see.

I don't know him that well.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 11:54:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16873
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 11:54:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFDE7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:21:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13965194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 19:27:09 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe73.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.208]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RNR9n26602 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:27:09 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat,
          27 Jul 2002 16:27:03 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2002 23:27:03.0774 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[1D6457E0:01C235C5]
Message-ID:  <OE73L9pdRpVVR4a4MxB00001426@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:28:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Melting Pot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I think I've heard that most of the people coming
here from Africa speak English.  I know the "Lost
Boys" do.  And I've heard that they are so eager
to learn and are good students, wanting to blend
in here and to work and earn their own way.


 >                 - D. M.

True. And most of the rest likely speak French, among other languages. What
I will be looking at is how pre-service teacher education is changing for
*all* prospective classroom teachers (the changes with regard to language
and cultural differences is but one aspect).

My friend in Dayton, Ohio (the one who now works a Sinclair Communtity
College) tells me that there are a number of Somalians there. She says many
of the men are truck drivers.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 13:01:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16964
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 13:01:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFDFBC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:28:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13966276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 20:34:14 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S0YEn30409 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:34:14 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-53.panax.com
          [65.114.190.53]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6S0YEn28267 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          20:34:14 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020727201912.00b52498@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:34:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Melting Pot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE32IIhs6hdn1KVHYS80000141e@hotmail.com>

At 06:00 PM 7/27/2002 -0500,  AS wrote:
>Another example of the "new immigration" (i.e. inland, rural U.S. areas
>which have not experienced immigration in recent times). We are also
>experiencing this here.

I have wondered about this.  In one sense, it seems counter-intuitive that
such new immigrant groups should choose, in a sense, virgin territory.  On
the other hand, the "new" areas, e.g., inland, rural, northern,
northeastern, possess attributes that, once known, are very attractive in
relation to the standard immigrant venues.

With respect to the influx of Somalis to the Lewiston, ME, area, I wonder
how the sociological dynamics will work out.  Granted, Lewiston doesn't
have the crime/violence problems of Atlanta.  Yet, Lewiston for all its
initial acceptance of immigrant groups, is definitely a blue-collar town
and by all accounts, not all that prosperous in terms of job opportunities,
etc.  How long will the acceptance/helpfulness/tolerance last?

The pessimist in me says that in such areas, there are tough times to
come.  The optimist in me says that the U.S. has re-invented itself several
times already in its history and, with a little bit of luck, may yet do so
again.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 13:16:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16989
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 13:16:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE03A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:43:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13966670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 20:49:37 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S0nbn31242 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:49:37 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-53.panax.com
          [65.114.190.53]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6S0ncn30015 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          20:49:38 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020727204658.00b55c08@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:49:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      hongos Xalapas, mole poblano, oh my!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

A nice Margerita (up, with salt), mushrooms stewed in chipotle sauce, and
chicken mole, accompanied by a pint of XX.  With a view of the calm
Southwest Harbor.  Life is good.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 13:20:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16993
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 13:20:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE045@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:47:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13966705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 20:53:12 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S0rCn31418 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:53:12 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6S0rBN27738 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          19:53:11 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020727201912.00b52498@mail.panax.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <003a01c235d1$614bf4c0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:54:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Melting Pot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> At 06:00 PM 7/27/2002 -0500,  AS wrote:
> >Another example of the "new immigration" (i.e. inland, rural U.S.
areas
> >which have not experienced immigration in recent times). We are also
> >experiencing this here.
>
> I have wondered about this.  In one sense, it seems counter-intuitive
that
> such new immigrant groups should choose, in a sense, virgin territory.
On
> the other hand, the "new" areas, e.g., inland, rural, northern,
> northeastern, possess attributes that, once known, are very attractive
in
> relation to the standard immigrant venues.
>
> With respect to the influx of Somalis to the Lewiston, ME, area, I
wonder
> how the sociological dynamics will work out.  Granted, Lewiston
doesn't
> have the crime/violence problems of Atlanta.  Yet, Lewiston for all
its
> initial acceptance of immigrant groups, is definitely a blue-collar
town
> and by all accounts, not all that prosperous in terms of job
opportunities,
> etc.  How long will the acceptance/helpfulness/tolerance last?
>
> The pessimist in me says that in such areas, there are tough times to
> come.  The optimist in me says that the U.S. has re-invented itself
several
> times already in its history and, with a little bit of luck, may yet
do so
> again.
>
> cwv

I have been through all of these thoughts too.
I'm not aware that we have all that many jobs
available here.  Lots of promises are being
made and I'm not sure we can fulfill.

I'm not sure these immigrants have a choice
about where to locate.  I think the thing must
be orchestrated.  By what standards I don't
know.

I will say that the Mexican influx forced lots
of local people out of their jobs (my grandson
lost his job this way) , because
the Mexicans could be hired cheaper.  I
would guess the same thing might happen
with the other immigrants.

I have very mixed feelings about this
integration.  I see the beauty of it.
I see the unfairness of it.

                   - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 13:48:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17041
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 13:48:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00170843@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:21:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13967008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 21:21:30 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S1LUn00341 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:21:30 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws160-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.160]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6S1LR719321
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:21:28 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020727210125.0EDE47F48@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D434719.F92FB0F8@maynor.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:21:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: ads-l posts on honey do
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Whoa! I didn't realize Larry Horn was on that list. He's a blast from
> my past.

He's very active on ADS-L -- or at least was before I set nomail for
months and then unsubbed.  The unsubbing was kind of sad.  Sort of the
end of an era or something.  Unsubbing to a list I started.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 13:53:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17061
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 13:53:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE0C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:20:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13967073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 21:26:03 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6S1Q2n00590 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:26:02 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA27820
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          18:26:01 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9971D97007 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:26:00 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 27808 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2002 01:25:58 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 28 Jul 2002 01:25:58 -0000
References: <OE65Y2MMBW4kltLHrK9000055fe@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130303b9666146c8cb@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:25:53 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEHEFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

>Get out in nature. Get some sun. I'd consider getting a lot of quiet time to
>yourself. Go for some good walks.
>
>Just when does  a walk become a hike?
>
>Sandra

Right around the time the first callus forms.

Ken Miller
Bill Bryson School of Outdoorsmanship

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 13:54:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17065
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 13:54:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE0CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:21:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13967108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 21:27:12 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6S1RBn00702 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:27:11 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA27927
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          18:27:10 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 203E097007 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:27:10 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 27923 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2002 01:27:09 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 28 Jul 2002 01:27:09 -0000
References: <20020726130914.24AB37F43@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130300b967ad85b7c5@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:27:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D415D8F.A91F9FB3@valstar.net>

>> > Still focussed on the tech sector, or are you also looking for
>> > non-tech-writing jobs?
>
>Microsoft announces it will hire 5,000 bodies in the next two years.
>
>alyce

Did it say how many of those bodies would reside in the U.S.?

Ken Miller
Kenneth Lay School of Business Ethics

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 13:55:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17069
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 13:55:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE0D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:22:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13966988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 21:28:24 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S1INn32666 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:18:23 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449126A35 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:18:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6S1INO84822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:18:23
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D48B4B2@webmail.utk.edu>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207261505460.4037-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020727201823.A84704@pobox.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:18:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Another poem published.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207261505460.4037-100000@og1.olagrande.net>; from
              aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET on Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 03:06:32PM -0500

On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 03:06:32PM -0500, Ann Borkin wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>
> > http://wtp62.com/rbr.htm
> >
> > Nice! VERY nice!
>
> I'm having trouble with "shifted lover."  Would somebody unpack this for
> me please (would everybody unpack this for me please)

I don't get it.

However, you only sense something when it changes. For instance,
if someone is sitting on the same bench as you, you don't really
notice a thing, but if they shift their weight even a little,
you are suddenly aware of their entire shape.

I also think this is an opportunistic cop-out poem and "Rita
Chapman" ought to do something different.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 14:37:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17139
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 14:37:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001709E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:10:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13968026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:09:58 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S29wn03139 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:09:58 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 67B5E84C3; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 19:09:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728020957.67B5E84C3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:09:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: ads-l posts on honey do
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020727154421.00aac9c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 27, 2002  3:44:59 pm"

Betty said:
> At 06:31 PM 7/27/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > >> >Yep--Relational Grammar.
> > >>
> > >> Ah, syntax. Not one of my things. I started it too late to do it
> > >> seriously.
> > >
> > >Well, I never cared about it, but Larry was good. I think he's an
> > >excellent linguist--he's very smart, and he made a great dept chair.
> >
> >Everything I know about him as a person and acedmic is positive. And I
> >like him.
>
> Well, invite him to words-l and we shall see.

Please don't.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 14:41:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17150
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 14:41:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE214@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:08:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13968106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:14:23 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S2ENn03428 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:14:23 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DB44580CF; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 19:13:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728021315.DB44580CF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:13:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: ads-l posts on honey do
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D434719.F92FB0F8@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 27,
              2002  8:21:29 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Whoa! I didn't realize Larry Horn was on that list. He's a blast from
> > my past.
>
> He's very active on ADS-L -- or at least was before I set nomail for
> months and then unsubbed.  The unsubbing was kind of sad.  Sort of the
> end of an era or something.  Unsubbing to a list I started.

He's a good linguist. I like the way his brain works.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 14:42:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17157
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 14:42:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE21A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:09:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13968129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:15:42 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S2Fgn03511 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:15:42 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust32.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.34]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004258073@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:15:42 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020726130914.24AB37F43@yellow.rahul.net>
            <v03130300b967ad85b7c5@[198.144.202.197]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D43541A.50E0627C@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:16:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: They come like sacrifices in their trim
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Bookrat wrote:
>
>
> Did it say how many of those bodies would reside in the U.S.?

I heard it on TV and I did not hear where the bodies would lie.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 14:45:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17166
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 14:45:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE22A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:12:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13968182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:18:32 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S2IWn03661 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:18:32 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust32.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.34]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005572950@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:18:32 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4354C5.102ADD27@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:19:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Estonian music
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

There's a band from Estonia that covers Black Sabbath tunes, only in
Latin with medieval instruments and arrangements.

http://www.sabbatum.com
  (slow loading)
--
alyce cresap

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 14:51:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17174
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 14:51:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE24E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:18:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13968285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:24:08 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S2O7n03968 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:24:07 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZX00M3MTC7HI@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:24:07 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D48B4B2@webmail.utk.edu>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207261505460.4037-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <20020727201823.A84704@pobox.com>
Message-ID:  <3D43555F.8090202@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:22:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Another poem published.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:


> I also think this is an opportunistic cop-out poem and "Rita
> Chapman" ought to do something different.
>


        Are you cute?




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 14:53:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17186
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 14:53:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE257@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:20:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13968310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:26:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S2Q5n04069 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:26:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B0BD97F32; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 19:26:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728022604.B0BD97F32@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:26:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      News from Fernando
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Well, Fernando called his friend I interviewed with a couple of weeks
ago, because I hadn't heard from the friend and I was wondering. We
thought this would be indirect enough.

Basically, they love me, but they have been trying to find money, and
so far, they haven't succeeded.:(

But it was nice to hear that they love me and want me.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 14:55:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17190
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 14:54:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00170A8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:27:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13968333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:27:45 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S2Rjn04140 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:27:45 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust32.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.34]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005573064@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:27:45 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020728022604.B0BD97F32@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4356ED.B3DFC7D9@valstar.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:29:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: News from Fernando
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> But it was nice to hear that they love me and want me.
>
We all love you and want you. Maybe they will find a pot of money yet.
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 14:58:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17194
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 14:58:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE272@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:25:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13968394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:31:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S2VOn04336 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:31:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8BD827F32; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 19:31:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728023122.8BD827F32@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:31:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: News from Fernando
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4356ED.B3DFC7D9@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 27,
              2002 10:29: 1 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > But it was nice to hear that they love me and want me.
> >
> We all love you and want you.

Thank you, Alyce. That's nice to hear, too.

> Maybe they will find a pot of money yet.

I haven't given up hope yet. Fernando has given me some other ideas
that I am pursuing.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 14:59:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17201
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 14:59:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE275@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:26:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13968404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:31:51 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S2Vpn04348 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:31:51 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZX00C0NTP2FQ@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:31:51 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <OE73L9pdRpVVR4a4MxB00001426@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D43572E.7010908@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:30:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Melting Pot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:


> True. And most of the rest likely speak French, among other languages. What
> I will be looking at is how pre-service teacher education is changing for
> *all* prospective classroom teachers (the changes with regard to language
> and cultural differences is but one aspect).


I'm not sure it is.  The texts give a lot of lipservice to
multiculturalism and linguistic minorities in the sections
on inclusion, but that's about it.  We certainly haven't had
any methods training in ESL.  My God.  The Blonde Pony Tails
might have come to grips with the idea of a world outside
Eureka, Missouri!


> My friend in Dayton, Ohio (the one who now works a Sinclair Communtity
> College) tells me that there are a number of Somalians there. She says many
> of the men are truck drivers.


I liked the Somalis I taught last summer.  Nice kids.  Nicer
than than the Bosnians I had, anyway.  I suspect the
Bosnians have laid the groundwork for Muslim immigration in
general in St. Louis.

Most residents of St. Louis County are utterly ignorant of
the immigrant population in the City.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 15:00:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17211
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 15:00:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE27E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:27:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13968431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:33:39 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S2Xdn04448 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:33:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7506D7E55; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 19:33:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728023338.7506D7E55@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:33:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Melting Pot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D43572E.7010908@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 27,
              2002  9:30: 6 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> I'm not sure it is.  The texts give a lot of lipservice to
> multiculturalism and linguistic minorities in the sections
> on inclusion, but that's about it.  We certainly haven't had
> any methods training in ESL.  My God.  The Blonde Pony Tails
> might have come to grips with the idea of a world outside
> Eureka, Missouri!

This is going to be a ruuuuuuuuuuuuuude awakening.

Karen
who used to live in Blonde Pony Tail Country

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 15:07:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17215
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 15:07:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE299@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:34:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13968502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:39:58 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S2dwn04710 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:39:58 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZX00CBCU2MFX@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:39:58 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
Message-ID:  <3D435915.80800@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:38:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      honey-dos
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Oh, btw, the first time Kevin used it, I thought it sounded
negative... like I was ordering him around or nagging.  I
get the impression that it is sort of a husband's club kind
of word... they like to make it sound like they're being
pestered, but really they're saying...see how much I'm
needed.  Maybe The Interloper just likes feeling needed.
BTW, does he have a job?

This summer I've been doing most of the "honey-do" stuff.
Today I re-stained the tile grout in the bathroom.  Looks
much spiffier.  I have to finish painting the front door and
windows, but it was 100 degrees today, and I didn't feel
like it.  I took Vinnie running at 8pm and he had trouble
enough with the heat that I had to cut it short.
--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 15:16:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17242
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 15:16:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE2F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:43:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13968756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:49:45 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S2nin05253 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:49:44 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZX00CI5UIVFZ@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:49:44 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020728023338.7506D7E55@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D435B5E.10300@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:47:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Melting Pot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>I'm not sure it is.  The texts give a lot of lipservice to
>>multiculturalism and linguistic minorities in the sections
>>on inclusion, but that's about it.  We certainly haven't had
>>any methods training in ESL.  My God.  The Blonde Pony Tails
>>might have come to grips with the idea of a world outside
>>Eureka, Missouri!
>>
>
> This is going to be a ruuuuuuuuuuuuuude awakening.
>
> Karen
> who used to live in Blonde Pony Tail Country


LOL.  You know, the guy in my summer class who used to live
a few blocks from me when I was in Somerville was trying to
ask me in a very diplomatic and roundabout way if everyone
at UMSL was as stupid as some of the people in our class,
and I just looked at him and said, "oh, you mean the Blonde
Pony Tail Syndrome."  He looked at me, blinked, and burst
out laughing... *exactly*.

The person we find most amusing is the army guy (who is a
total arrogant pita) trying to pass off a speech impediment
as a New England accent.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 15:20:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17246
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 15:20:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE332@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:47:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13968925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:53:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S2rGn05483 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:53:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 27FD884BB; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 19:53:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728025316.27FD884BB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:53:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: honey-dos
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D435915.80800@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 27,
              2002  9:38:13 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Oh, btw, the first time Kevin used it, I thought it sounded
> negative... like I was ordering him around or nagging.

EXACTLY.

> I get the impression that it is sort of a husband's club kind of
> word... they like to make it sound like they're being pestered, but
> really they're saying...see how much I'm needed.

Aha! That fits.

> Maybe The
> Interloper just likes feeling needed.  BTW, does he have a job?

Fernando consults. I get the feeling that he's semi-retired.

> Today I re-stained the tile grout in the bathroom.  Looks
> much spiffier.

The only stained grout I've seen is mildewed. What color did you stain
it?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 15:21:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17253
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 15:21:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00170B7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:54:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13969011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:54:11 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S2sBn05571 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:54:11 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7CB8E7F6E; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 19:54:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728025410.7CB8E7F6E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:54:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Melting Pot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D435B5E.10300@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 27,
              2002  9:47:58 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> The person we find most amusing is the army guy (who is a
> total arrogant pita) trying to pass off a speech impediment
> as a New England accent.

Oh. Dear.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 15:26:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17262
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 15:26:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE40D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:53:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13969571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 22:59:17 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S2xHn06008 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:59:17 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZX00CM2UYSFX@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:59:17 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020728025316.27FD884BB@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D435D9A.5020908@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:57:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: honey-dos
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:


>>Today I re-stained the tile grout in the bathroom.  Looks
>>much spiffier.
>>
>
> The only stained grout I've seen is mildewed. What color did you stain
> it?
>


        White.  It was grimey-grey.  The stain comes in a little
bottle that looks like shoe polish.  It may be shoe polish
for all I know.  In any case, it was a pretty easy job and
the change is dramatic.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 15:28:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17269
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 15:28:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00170C37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:00:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13970246 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 23:00:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S30in06454 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:00:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 60A1184BB; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 20:00:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728030040.60A1184BB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:00:40 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: honey-dos
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D435D9A.5020908@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 27,
              2002  9:57:30 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
>         White.  It was grimey-grey.  The stain comes in a little
> bottle that looks like shoe polish.  It may be shoe polish
> for all I know.  In any case, it was a pretty easy job and
> the change is dramatic.

You can't just bleach it?

Karen
grout-ignorant

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 15:32:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17279
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 15:32:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFE7A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:58:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13972157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 23:04:45 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S34jn07411 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:04:45 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZX00CDQV7TG1@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:04:42 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020728030040.60A1184BB@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D435EDF.4050507@swbell.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:02:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: honey-dos
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>        White.  It was grimey-grey.  The stain comes in a little
>>bottle that looks like shoe polish.  It may be shoe polish
>>for all I know.  In any case, it was a pretty easy job and
>>the change is dramatic.
>>
>
> You can't just bleach it?
>

Probably, but I'm awful with bleach -- all my t-shirts have
little bleach spots on them.  I know I'd end up splashing
some onto the new carpet right over the threshold of the
door.  And the shoe polish-like stuff was cheap and doesn't
smell.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 15:34:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17284
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 15:34:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00170DCE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:07:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13973083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 23:07:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S37Vn07915 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:07:31 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 875D281AF; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 20:07:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728030730.875D281AF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:07:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: honey-dos
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D435EDF.4050507@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 27,
              2002 10: 2:55 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Rita Chapman said:
> >
> >>        White.  It was grimey-grey.  The stain comes in a little
> >>bottle that looks like shoe polish.  It may be shoe polish
> >>for all I know.  In any case, it was a pretty easy job and
> >>the change is dramatic.
> >>
> >
> > You can't just bleach it?
> >
>
> Probably, but I'm awful with bleach -- all my t-shirts have
> little bleach spots on them.  I know I'd end up splashing
> some onto the new carpet right over the threshold of the
> door.  And the shoe polish-like stuff was cheap and doesn't
> smell.

Makes sense to me.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 16:15:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17329
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 16:15:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFEAA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:42:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13974421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 23:48:17 -0400
Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (imo-r09.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.105]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S3mGn10792 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:48:16 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.18e.b6aa246 (3992) for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          23:48:06 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  7bit
Message-ID:  <18e.b6aa246.2a74c376@aol.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:48:06 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      It's a Miracle!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

All 9 miners are alive!

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 16:17:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17337
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 16:17:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00170F51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:50:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13974521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 23:50:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S3oMn10991 for
          <Words-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:50:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4E6E6816D; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 20:50:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728035021.4E6E6816D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:50:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Phil Spector?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In the Ike and Tina Turner movie with Angela Bassett and Samuel
L. Jackson, Phil Spector shakes hands with Ike, and he uses his left
hand. Why?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 16:18:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17341
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 16:18:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFEAC4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:44:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13974526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 23:50:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S3omn11001 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:50:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 33F4A8149; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 20:50:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728035048.33F4A8149@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:50:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: It's a Miracle!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <18e.b6aa246.2a74c376@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Jul 27,
              2002 11:48: 6 pm"

Evelyn Duncan said:
> All 9 miners are alive!

Thanks for letting me know. I was wondering about this.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 16:19:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17345
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 16:19:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFEAD5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:46:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13974569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 23:52:16 -0400
Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S3qGn11108 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:52:16 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.d2.1b9456e7 (3992) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002
          23:52:06 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <d2.1b9456e7.2a74c466@aol.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:52:06 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: It's a Miracle!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/27/2002 10:50:58 PM Central Daylight Time,
karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:

<<
Thanks for letting me know. I was wondering about this.

>>

Most of them are in good condition, according to MSNBC.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 16:50:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17390
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 16:50:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFEE4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 0:17:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13976972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 00:23:13 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S4DDn13746 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 00:13:13 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E0961A1 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:13:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6S4DCK29498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:13:12
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D48B4B2@webmail.utk.edu>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207261505460.4037-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <20020727201823.A84704@pobox.com> <3D43555F.8090202@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020727231312.A29282@pobox.com>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:13:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Another poem published.
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D43555F.8090202@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Sat,
              Jul 27, 2002 at 09:22:23PM -0500

On Sat, Jul 27, 2002 at 09:22:23PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
> Tushar Samant wrote:
>
> > I also think this is an opportunistic cop-out poem and "Rita
> > Chapman" ought to do something different.
>
>
>         Are you cute?

Cannot tolerate harsh truth-telling of FACTUAL truths, "Squid Girl"?
I am spit of your collapsible fortitude! Today! Sit down and write
highly dissimilar poem with dispatch, ASAP! This shilly-shally mode
of behavior has grown significantly wearisome ...  "puh", I utter
involuntarily.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 16:59:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17412
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 16:59:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFEE71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 0:26:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13977278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 00:32:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S4WRn15021 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 00:32:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BE1C7851C; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 21:32:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728043226.BE1C7851C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:32:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I carefully inspected Fernando's legs this evening (hey, it was for
science!). He's doing much better. He likes the benadryl itch stick
stuff that Bonnie and Clyde recommended. I find that I really don't,
sorry. However, I like the Rhuli (now Bandaid) gel--that is incredibly
soothing. (Fernando has poison oak, and I have a million mosquito
bites.)

He think that something in his house has urushiol on it and is
infecting him in new places, but he can't figure out what. Every day
he seems to have a new spot, which he carefully treats. So while the
overall amount of problem area has decreased, he is still developing
new problem areas, which pisses him off no end.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 17:09:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17426
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 17:09:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFEE9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 0:36:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13977416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 00:42:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S4gbn15603 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 00:42:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9B36984F5; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 21:42:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728044235.9B36984F5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:42:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Melting Pot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <001501c23595$7d5de560$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 27, 2002 12:46: 7 pm"

Doris Markland said:
> We also have, among these numbers,
> quite a few of the "Lost Boys" from Sudan.

Tell me about the Sudanese Lost Boys, please.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 17:16:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17466
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 17:16:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFEECA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 0:43:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13977542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 00:49:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S4nQn16053 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 00:49:26 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 83A4C85F8; Sat, 27
          Jul 2002 21:49:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728044925.83A4C85F8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:49:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Word question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D42DD7C.B9A9C24@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 27,
              2002  1:50:52 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Well, if it is a given that the man (or woman--it could work either eay)
> is going to do tasks, it actually makes carping and nagging unnecessary.

Yes--but that was part of my problem. I've only known Fernando for
something like 35 days. Not nearly long enough for a given like that.

> I feel like a shrew when I have to ask Ken over and over to please do
> something, but if we had a list, I wouldn't have to--except to remind
> him to look at the list.

Have you thought about suggesting that? My Mom did make lists for my
brothers and my dad, but we never called them honey do lists.

> I am reminded that "Fix the bathtub tile" was on the list for maybe ten
> years, until Daddy died. Tile-fixing did not interest him and it was not
> a big problem except aesthetically--one tile was missing on the wall at
> the far end of the tub, away from the shower, so no damage really was
> occurring.

This is kind of sweet, that your mom didn't lose hope.:)

Speaking of sweetness, Fernando talked to his elderly friend today. He
was upset because the movers hadn't moved his old girlfriend out yet,
and he goes to get the new one next week. The sweet part is that he
read Fernando some of the new one's love poems and stories. The last
time they were together (other than the recent 18 days) was in 1954.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 22:31:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA17914
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Tue, 21 Jun 1960 22:31:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFF477@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 5:58:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13982483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 06:04:20 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SA4Kn07543 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 06:04:20 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6SA4JN08920 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          05:04:19 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020728044235.9B36984F5@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <008901c2361e$5f657a80$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 05:05:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Melting Pot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Doris Markland said:
> > We also have, among these numbers,
> > quite a few of the "Lost Boys" from Sudan.
>
> Tell me about the Sudanese Lost Boys, please.
>
> Karen

I have read about them but it's been a while
ago and I don't know details well enough to
repeat.  I'm sure there's been lots written
about them.  Orphaned in their local wars,
these boys found each other and wandered
for years, sustaining themselves and
covering a wide territory.

                  - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 00:18:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18110
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 00:18:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFF580@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 7:45:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13966496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 07:51:16 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe14.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.118]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SBpGn14733 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 07:51:16 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          28 Jul 2002 04:51:10 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jul 2002 11:51:10.0665 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[11034390:01C2362D]
Message-ID:  <OE14kggHwEAPcDvk7eO000017e0@hotmail.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 06:52:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Melting Pot
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>I'm not sure it is.  The texts give a lot of lipservice to
>>multiculturalism and linguistic minorities in the sections
>>on inclusion, but that's about it.  We certainly haven't had
>>any methods training in ESL.  My God.  The Blonde Pony Tails
>>might have come to grips with the idea of a world outside
>>Eureka, Missouri!
>>
>
> This is going to be a ruuuuuuuuuuuuuude awakening.
>
> Karen
> who used to live in Blonde Pony Tail Country

Precisely.

You are among the many who are Not Yet With the Program.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 00:21:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18121
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 00:21:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFF589@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 7:48:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13966517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 07:53:51 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SBrpn14890 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 07:53:51 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws95-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.95]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6SBrm723519
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 06:53:48 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020728043226.BE1C7851C@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 06:53:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

>  and I have a million mosquito
> bites.)

Is West Nile virus in Austin yet?  It's been spreading in Mississippi
this sumemr?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 00:35:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18144
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 00:35:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFF5BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 8:01:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13966575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 08:07:41 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SBvfn15143 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 07:57:41 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6SBveQ4018687 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 07:57:40 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207280757230.16877-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 07:57:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      MOre Re: honey do
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

from a friend (I asked if he knew the term):

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 04:29:21 -0700
Subject: Re: honey do

sure, but I don't know where it came from.  It is usually used when a man
describes his saturday as a 'honey do day".  Or talks about a list of 'honey
dos"
---

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 02:28:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18417
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 02:28:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFF825@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 9:54:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13968847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 10:00:33 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SE0Xn24612 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:00:33 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust104.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.106]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005579169@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 10:00:33 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D43F941.AF07E82B@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:01:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Big mushroom!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Pen caption on reverse reads, "Edible mushroom over 9 lbs, Richard
Salerno,
George Calhoun, both of 73 Elm Street, found off New Scotland Ave. near
Slingerlands.

http://www.balopticon.com/images/bigmushroom.jpg

--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 03:37:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19913
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 03:37:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFFA68@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 11:03:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13970069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 11:09:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SF9Un29624 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 11:09:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 93FB584FC; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 08:09:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 08:09:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 28,
              2002  6:53:50 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Is West Nile virus in Austin yet?

No,  but it's in Texas, and don't think this hasn't occurred to me.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 04:28:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20051
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 04:28:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFFBAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 11:55:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13971217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 12:01:23 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SG1Mn00927 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:01:22 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6SG1KCY020767 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 09:01:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 09:01:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>

At 08:09 AM 7/28/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Natalie Maynor said:
> > Is West Nile virus in Austin yet?
>
>No,  but it's in Texas, and don't think this hasn't occurred to me.

Speaking of Texas, I heard it's illegal to sell vibrators there but not
guns.  Did you ever hear of a mass murder using a vibrator?

Betty, off to Monterey for a night

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 04:38:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20073
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 04:38:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFFBE7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 12:04:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13971416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 12:10:37 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SGAbn01505 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:10:37 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust6.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.8]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004265550@mx0.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 12:10:36 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4417AE.956EFA57@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:11:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      stupid question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Is the plural of bon mot bons mots? Looks so totally wrong.

Staring dumbly at the screen in G'town

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 04:43:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20084
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 04:43:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001724B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 12:15:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13971288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 12:15:48 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SG5mn01165 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:05:48 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F3B710C for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 11:05:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6SG5lf16088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 11:05:47
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
            <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 11:05:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>; from
              bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU on Sun, Jul 28,
              2002 at 09:01:39AM -0700

On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 09:01:39AM -0700, Betty wrote:
> Speaking of Texas, I heard it's illegal to sell vibrators there but not
> guns.  Did you ever hear of a mass murder using a vibrator?

Yeah and if some asshole is robbing the store what are you going
to do, point a vibrator?

Off to the pub for the evening

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 04:50:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20096
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 04:50:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFFC69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 12:17:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13971706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 12:22:58 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SGMwn02393 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:22:58 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6SGMvCY004053 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 09:22:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
            <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 09:23:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>

At 11:05 AM 7/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 09:01:39AM -0700, Betty wrote:
> > Speaking of Texas, I heard it's illegal to sell vibrators there but not
> > guns.  Did you ever hear of a mass murder using a vibrator?
>
>Yeah and if some asshole is robbing the store what are you going
>to do, point a vibrator?
>
>Off to the pub for the evening

It's not evening yet!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 04:52:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20103
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 04:52:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFFC7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 12:19:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13971750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 12:25:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SGPIn02510 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:25:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 72C948513; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 09:25:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728162517.72C948513@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 09:25:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 28, 2002  9: 1:39 am"

Betty said:
> At 08:09 AM 7/28/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Natalie Maynor said:
> > > Is West Nile virus in Austin yet?
> >
> >No,  but it's in Texas, and don't think this hasn't occurred to me.
>
> Speaking of Texas, I heard it's illegal to sell vibrators there but not
> guns.  Did you ever hear of a mass murder using a vibrator?

Surely you don't really think that guns and vibrators are used for the
same purpose?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 04:54:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20110
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 04:54:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFFC90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 12:21:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13971811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 12:27:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SGR2n02692 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:27:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D6BE785D4; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 09:27:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728162701.D6BE785D4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 09:27:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: stupid question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4417AE.956EFA57@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 28,
              2002 12:11:26 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Is the plural of bon mot bons mots? Looks so totally wrong.
>
> Staring dumbly at the screen in G'town

That's the French plural; the English plural would be bon mots.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 04:57:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20114
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 04:57:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFFCAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 12:24:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13971896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 12:30:14 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SGUEn02923 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:30:14 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust6.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.8]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005580842@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 12:30:14 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020728162701.D6BE785D4@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D441C46.8B2646B0@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:31:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: stupid question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> alyce cresap said:
> > Is the plural of bon mot bons mots? Looks so totally wrong.
> >
> > Staring dumbly at the screen in G'town
>
> That's the French plural; the English plural would be bon mots.

Thanks. The French pronunciation then is bon smots? Or is the s silent?
I am trying to help someone with this, but surely my French accent is
nonexistent.

alyce

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 05:00:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20130
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 05:00:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFFCB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 12:27:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13971943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 12:33:21 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SGXLn03090 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:33:21 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust6.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.8]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005580871@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 12:33:20 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D441D01.B3815734@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:34:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Adam at the concert
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Poor thing. The weather is just rotten. It is dark as night, slightly
rainy, humidity at 90 degrees. Yesterday was only slightly better.
Wonder how his tenting is going. Although I offered him a bed, he backed
out.
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 05:02:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20134
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 05:02:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFFCC1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 12:28:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13971968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 12:34:29 -0400
Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6SGYTn03142 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          12:34:29 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6SGYSa41900 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          12:34:29 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEELGFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 09:33:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: stupid question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D441C46.8B2646B0@valstar.net>

silent s

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU]On Behalf Of alyce cresap
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 9:31 AM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: stupid question
>
>
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > alyce cresap said:
> > > Is the plural of bon mot bons mots? Looks so totally wrong.
> > >
> > > Staring dumbly at the screen in G'town
> >
> > That's the French plural; the English plural would be bon mots.
>
> Thanks. The French pronunciation then is bon smots? Or is the s silent?
> I am trying to help someone with this, but surely my French accent is
> nonexistent.
>
> alyce
>
> alyce
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 05:04:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20143
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 05:04:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFFCCB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 12:31:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13972008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 12:36:56 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SGatn03256 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:36:55 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 12CA885D8; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 09:36:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728163655.12CA885D8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 09:36:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: stupid question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D441C46.8B2646B0@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 28,
              2002 12:31: 2 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > alyce cresap said:
> > > Is the plural of bon mot bons mots? Looks so totally wrong.
> > >
> > > Staring dumbly at the screen in G'town
> >
> > That's the French plural; the English plural would be bon mots.
>
> Thanks. The French pronunciation then is bon smots? Or is the s silent?
> I am trying to help someone with this, but surely my French accent is
> nonexistent.

Both s's are silent. You would know it's plural from the plural
article 'les' as in 'les bons mots'. It's just pure and simple
agreement--adjectives agree with the words they modify.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 05:10:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20150
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 05:10:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFFCEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 12:36:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13972116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 12:42:25 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SGgPn03617 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:42:25 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6SGmpt22087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 18:48:51
          +0200
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
            <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 18:48:51 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>; from
              bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU on Sun, Jul 28,
              2002 at 09:23:16AM -0700

= >
= >Off to the pub for the evening
=
= It's not evening yet!
=
= Betty

Is here.  We're going to have gazpacho, crusty bread, italian
wine, and maybe brie for dinner, up on the roof.  It has been hot
hot hot for the past two days.  I made the soup hours ago, and it
is chilling nicely in the fridge.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 05:24:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20165
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 05:24:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFFD56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 12:51:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13972431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 12:57:00 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SGv0n04507 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:57:00 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6SGuxCY029981 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 09:56:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020728095703.00a461f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 09:57:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020728162517.72C948513@yellow.rahul.net>

At 09:25 AM 7/28/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Betty said:
> > At 08:09 AM 7/28/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Natalie Maynor said:
> > > > Is West Nile virus in Austin yet?
> > >
> > >No,  but it's in Texas, and don't think this hasn't occurred to me.
> >
> > Speaking of Texas, I heard it's illegal to sell vibrators there but not
> > guns.  Did you ever hear of a mass murder using a vibrator?
>
>Surely you don't really think that guns and vibrators are used for the
>same purpose?

They both give me a kick!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 05:36:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20190
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 05:36:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFFDA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 13:02:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13972674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 13:08:39 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SH8dn05290 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 13:08:39 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-65.panax.com [63.163.41.65])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SH8en20318 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 13:08:40 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728130756.009fbe60@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 13:08:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Adam at the concert
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D441D01.B3815734@valstar.net>

>Wonder how his tenting is going. Although I offered him a bed, he backed
>out.      --alyce

How silly of him.  I thought your guest bedroom was lovely.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 05:53:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20213
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 05:53:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03EFFDF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 13:19:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13972916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 13:25:48 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SHPmn06250 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 13:25:48 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust216.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.218]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005581378@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 13:25:47 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020728163655.12CA885D8@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D44294A.E0C04D49@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 13:26:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: stupid question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> alyce cresap said:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
> > > alyce cresap said:
> > > > Is the plural of bon mot bons mots? Looks so totally wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Staring dumbly at the screen in G'town
> > >
> > > That's the French plural; the English plural would be bon mots.
> >
> > Thanks. The French pronunciation then is bon smots? Or is the s silent?
> > I am trying to help someone with this, but surely my French accent is
> > nonexistent.
>
> Both s's are silent. You would know it's plural from the plural
> article 'les' as in 'les bons mots'. It's just pure and simple
> agreement--adjectives agree with the words they modify.

Got it! Thanks.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 06:10:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20239
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 06:10:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00172755@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 13:42:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13973045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 13:42:59 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SHWxn06726 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 13:32:59 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56696AFF for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:32:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6SHWwb17004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:32:58
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
            <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:32:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>; from
              stevie@MULTINIX.COM on Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 06:48:51PM +0200

On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 06:48:51PM +0200, steph wrote:
> = >
> = >Off to the pub for the evening
> =
> = It's not evening yet!
>
> Is here.

Yeah, "Betty"!

>           We're going to have gazpacho, crusty bread, italian
> wine, and maybe brie for dinner, up on the roof.  It has been hot
> hot hot for the past two days.  I made the soup hours ago, and it
> is chilling nicely in the fridge.

This is what words-l does to you ... that's why I go to the pub
instead

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 08:24:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20478
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 08:24:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0028C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 15:51:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13976180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 15:57:19 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SJvJn16546 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 15:57:19 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust249.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.251]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004267738@mx0.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 15:57:18 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D444CC3.53D42001@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 15:57:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      bons mots
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Here's what came back at me when I suggested bon mots.



The 1968 edition of the American College Dictionary cites the ENGLISH
plural
of "bon mot" as "bons mots."

Websters's 2d International Dictionary also lists "bons mots" as the
English
plural.

even the stridently "modernist" Encarta Dictionary, 2002 lists:

bon mot [bawN m ] (plural bons mots [bawN m , bawN mz ]) noun
witty remark: a witty comment [From French, literally "good word"]

None of these dictionaries even countenance "bon mots" as a
non-preferred
alternative.

David Crambs in his 1984 book "Literary Companion Dictionary" although
he
acknowledges the "ugly" "bon mots" gives preference of spelling to:
"bons
mots" as the English form of the plural.

Merriam-Websters non-judgmental and modernist 2002 on-line edition lists
the
"bon mots" variation as a secondary spelling, listing the preferred
"bons
mots" first.

Webster 2002-Main Entry: bon mot
Pronunciation: bOn-'mO Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural bons
mots
/bOn-'mO(z)/; or bon mots  /-'mO(z)/ Etymology: French, literally, good
word
--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 08:34:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20501
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 08:34:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F002EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 16:01:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13976492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 16:07:06 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SK75n17269 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:07:05 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6SKDXQ22407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:13:33
          +0200
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
            <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:13:33 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on
              Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 12:32:58PM -0500

=
= >           We're going to have gazpacho, crusty bread, italian
= > wine, and maybe brie for dinner, up on the roof.  It has been hot
= > hot hot for the past two days.  I made the soup hours ago, and it
= > is chilling nicely in the fridge.
=
= This is what words-l does to you ... that's why I go to the pub
= instead

Whadda ya mean?  Ya gotta eat somethin' for dinner, ya know?

How hard is it to stick a bunch of stuff in the food processor,
turn it on, run it till it's frothy and put it in the fridge?
The bread: given the myriad choices of bread at the supermarket,
how hard is it to pick the crusty one over the ciabatta?  The
brie: who cares that it was really camembert?  The wine: was
almost chilean, whatever?

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 08:43:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20512
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 08:43:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0032D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 16:09:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13976666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 16:15:32 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SKFWn17743 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:15:32 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZZ00EE46XV8Z@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 28 Jul 2002 15:15:32 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
            <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Message-ID:  <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 15:13:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> =
> = >           We're going to have gazpacho, crusty bread, italian
> = > wine, and maybe brie for dinner, up on the roof.  It has been hot
> = > hot hot for the past two days.  I made the soup hours ago, and it
> = > is chilling nicely in the fridge.
> =
> = This is what words-l does to you ... that's why I go to the pub
> = instead
>
> Whadda ya mean?  Ya gotta eat somethin' for dinner, ya know?
>
> How hard is it to stick a bunch of stuff in the food processor,
> turn it on, run it till it's frothy and put it in the fridge?
> The bread: given the myriad choices of bread at the supermarket,
> how hard is it to pick the crusty one over the ciabatta?  The
> brie: who cares that it was really camembert?  The wine: was
> almost chilean, whatever?
>


        Don't take him seriously.  He's probably eating pickled eggs
and party wings for dinner.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 08:46:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20524
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 08:46:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00344@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 16:13:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13976721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 16:19:01 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SKJ1n17977 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:19:01 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws165-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.165]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6SKIU704985
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 15:18:31 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
            <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D445198.93E5890D@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 15:18:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> How hard is it to stick a bunch of stuff in the food processor,

But then it's dirty, and you have to wash it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 08:55:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20532
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 08:55:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00373@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 16:21:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13976894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 16:27:26 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SKRPn18541 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:27:26 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6SKRPN22875 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          15:27:25 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <003401c23675$6bdb4180$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 15:29:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Sunday Movie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Just for fun I sat down and watched
The World According to Garp.
Hadn't seen it for years.  Had forgotten
about the wonderful part played by
John Lithgow.

                           - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 09:16:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20577
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 09:16:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00172CDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 16:49:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13977279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 16:49:01 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SKn1n19819 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:49:01 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-117.panax.com
          [65.114.190.117]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6SKn2n17681 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          16:49:02 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728164820.00a05ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:48:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sunday Movie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <003401c23675$6bdb4180$360332d1@0018079268>

>Just for fun I sat down and watched
>The World According to Garp.
>Hadn't seen it for years.  Had forgotten
>about the wonderful part played by
>John Lithgow.                      - D. M.

Good movie.  Did you know that the plane going into the house was NOT in
the book?


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 09:35:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20611
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 09:35:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00612@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 17:01:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13978899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 17:07:22 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SL7Mn21738 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 17:07:22 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6SL7LN21656 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          16:07:21 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728164820.00a05ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <004a01c2367a$ffdd5300$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:09:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sunday Movie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >Just for fun I sat down and watched
> >The World According to Garp.
> >Hadn't seen it for years.  Had forgotten
> >about the wonderful part played by
> >John Lithgow.                      - D. M.
>
> Good movie.  Did you know that the plane going into the house was NOT
in
> the book?

No, I didn't.  And understandably
I reacted to it with a little different
feeling than when I saw the movie
pre 9/11.  I think the plane-crashing-
into-building is a new prototype
burned into our brains.

                - D. M.
>
>     --bonniev
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 09:46:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20637
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 09:46:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0065B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 17:13:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13979076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 17:19:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SLJ0n22466 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 17:19:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A100D853D; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 14:18:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728211859.A100D853D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 14:18:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D445198.93E5890D@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 28,
              2002  3:18:33 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> steph wrote:
> > How hard is it to stick a bunch of stuff in the food processor,
>
> But then it's dirty, and you have to wash it.

But this is precisely why God invented dishwashers.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 09:53:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20646
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 09:53:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F006AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 17:19:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13979299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 17:25:22 -0400
Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6SLPMn22904 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          17:25:22 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6SLPLa40564 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          17:25:21 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMELJFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 14:24:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hongos Xalapas, mole poblano, oh my!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020727204658.00b55c08@mail.panax.com>

What's on the menu for AcadiaFest?

Sandra

> A nice Margerita (up, with salt), mushrooms stewed in chipotle sauce, and
> chicken mole, accompanied by a pint of XX.  With a view of the calm
> Southwest Harbor.  Life is good.
>
> cwv
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 09:54:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20653
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 09:54:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F006B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 17:20:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13979335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 17:26:20 -0400
Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6SLQJn22965 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          17:26:19 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6SLQIa242886 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul
          2002 17:26:19 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAELKFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 14:25:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Relaxation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130303b9666146c8cb@[198.144.202.197]>

Do blisters count?

Sandra

> >Get out in nature. Get some sun. I'd consider getting a lot of
> quiet time to
> >yourself. Go for some good walks.
> >
> >Just when does  a walk become a hike?
> >
> >Sandra
>
> Right around the time the first callus forms.
>
> Ken Miller
> Bill Bryson School of Outdoorsmanship
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 10:20:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20691
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 10:20:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00789@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 17:46:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13980009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 17:52:22 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SLqMn25107 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 17:52:22 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-233.panax.com
          [63.163.41.233]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6SLqNn26174 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          17:52:23 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020727204658.00b55c08@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728173742.00b49010@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 17:38:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: hongos Xalapas, mole poblano, oh my!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMELJFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

At 02:24 PM 7/28/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>What's on the menu for AcadiaFest?

The URLs will be posted approximately each month.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 10:21:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20703
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 10:21:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F007A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 17:48:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13980068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 17:54:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SLs7n25220 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 17:54:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BB4E58024; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 14:54:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728215406.BB4E58024@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 14:54:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hongos Xalapas, mole poblano, oh my!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728173742.00b49010@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 28, 2002  5:38:39 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> The URLs will be posted approximately each month.

Are you going to publish daily menus?:)

(Hearing about good food makes me want to produce some of my own. I've
been eating better even when Fernando is not here just because it's so
sublime to have good food.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 10:51:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20736
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 10:51:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001730FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 18:23:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13980920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 18:23:33 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SMDXn26988 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 18:13:33 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C49A84D7 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 17:13:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6SMDW529202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 17:13:32
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
            <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020728171332.A29163@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 17:13:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Sun,
              Jul 28, 2002 at 03:13:54PM -0500

On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 03:13:54PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> > = >           We're going to have gazpacho, crusty bread, italian
> > = > wine, and maybe brie for dinner, up on the roof.  It has been hot
> > = > hot hot for the past two days.  I made the soup hours ago, and it
> > = > is chilling nicely in the fridge.
> > =
> > = This is what words-l does to you ... that's why I go to the pub
> > = instead
> >
> > Whadda ya mean?  Ya gotta eat somethin' for dinner, ya know?
> >
> > How hard is it to stick a bunch of stuff in the food processor,
> > turn it on, run it till it's frothy and put it in the fridge?
> > The bread: given the myriad choices of bread at the supermarket,
> > how hard is it to pick the crusty one over the ciabatta?  The
> > brie: who cares that it was really camembert?  The wine: was
> > almost chilean, whatever?
>
>
>         Don't take him seriously.  He's probably eating pickled eggs
> and party wings for dinner.

Excuse me Rita, how's the progress on the new and actually serious
poem? I might be washing oysters down to with the G*****ss, but I
don't describe it in the tone of fat and impotent boomers--which
by the way is the optimal method currently available to ruin your
language.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 11:05:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20753
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 11:05:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00985@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 18:32:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13981632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 18:38:10 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SMcAn29025 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 18:38:10 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-36.panax.com [63.163.41.36])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SMc7n31679 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 18:38:08 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020728173742.00b49010@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728183728.00a038a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 18:37:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: hongos Xalapas, mole poblano, oh my!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020728215406.BB4E58024@yellow.rahul.net>

>Are you going to publish daily menus?:)
>Karen

http://www.barharbormaine.com/dining_frame2.html


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 11:18:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20807
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 11:18:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F009BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 18:44:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13981789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 18:50:47 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SMokn29797 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 18:50:47 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 39E238719; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 15:50:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728225046.39E238719@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 15:50:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hongos Xalapas, mole poblano, oh my!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728183728.00a038a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 28, 2002  6:37:46 pm"

bonniev said:
> >Are you going to publish daily menus?:)
> >Karen
>
> http://www.barharbormaine.com/dining_frame2.html

Not exactly what I meant.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 11:46:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20870
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 11:46:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00A89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 19:13:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13982524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 19:19:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SNJBn32253 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:19:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3840D7EFB; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 16:19:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728231911.3840D7EFB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:19:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I just looked up the Federal Poverty Index Guidelines (to see if I
qualify for medical assistance from the City of Austin). Without looking, do
you know what's considered poverty for a single person?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 12:01:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20913
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 12:01:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001733BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 19:33:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13982815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 19:33:59 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SNXwn00893 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:33:59 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-130.panax.com
          [65.114.190.130]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6SNXxn06398 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          19:33:59 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193315.009fdd10@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:33:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020728231911.3840D7EFB@yellow.rahul.net>

>I just looked up the Federal Poverty Index Guidelines (to see if I
>qualify for medical assistance from the City of Austin). Without looking, do
>you know what's considered poverty for a single person?
>Karen

No, but I'll take a guess:  an annual income under $23,000.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 12:02:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20917
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 12:02:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00B05@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 19:29:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13982883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 19:34:56 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SNYun00985 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:34:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 55D6F8719; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 16:34:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728233455.55D6F8719@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:34:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193315.009fdd10@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 28, 2002  7:33:39 pm"

bonniev said:
> >I just looked up the Federal Poverty Index Guidelines (to see if I
> >qualify for medical assistance from the City of Austin). Without looking, do
> >you know what's considered poverty for a single person?
> >Karen
>
> No, but I'll take a guess:  an annual income under $23,000.

Divide that by 3 and you're close.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 12:07:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20928
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 12:07:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00B27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 19:33:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13982977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 19:39:30 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SNdTn01336 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:39:29 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-130.panax.com
          [65.114.190.130]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6SNdSn07292 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          19:39:28 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193315.009fdd10@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193829.009f9640@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:39:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020728233455.55D6F8719@yellow.rahul.net>

>Divide that by 3 and you're close.
>Karen

Wow.  You're not poor until you make under $7000 a year?  You don't get
food stamps until then?


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 12:09:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20938
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 12:09:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00173403@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 19:41:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13983004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 19:41:33 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SNfXn01468 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:41:33 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust164.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.166]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005585433@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 19:41:33 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193315.009fdd10@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D448149.C157F6F5@valstar.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:42:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> >I just looked up the Federal Poverty Index Guidelines (to see if I
> >qualify for medical assistance from the City of Austin). Without looking, do
> >you know what's considered poverty for a single person?
> >Karen
>
> No, but I'll take a guess:  an annual income under $23,000.

Oh, no. It's $15,000 for a family. A person must be about $5,000.

alyce

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 12:21:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20967
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 12:21:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00173494@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 19:53:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13983228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 19:53:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SNrpn02342 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:53:51 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 328FB878F; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 16:53:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728235344.328FB878F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:53:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193829.009f9640@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 28, 2002  7:39: 9 pm"

bonniev said:
> >Divide that by 3 and you're close.
> >Karen
>
> Wow.  You're not poor until you make under $7000 a year?  You don't get
> food stamps until then?

$8860 for a single person. I don't know if food stamps are tied to
that, or not. I do know that unemployment gives you too income for
food stamps.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 12:25:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20980
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 12:25:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00BBC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 19:51:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13983295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 19:57:47 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SNvln02606 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:57:47 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 98D158571; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 16:57:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728235746.98D158571@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:57:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D448149.C157F6F5@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 28,
              2002  7:42: 1 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> bonniev wrote:
> >
> > >I just looked up the Federal Poverty Index Guidelines (to see if I
> > >qualify for medical assistance from the City of Austin). Without looking, do
> > >you know what's considered poverty for a single person?
> > >Karen
> >
> > No, but I'll take a guess:  an annual income under $23,000.
>
> Oh, no. It's $15,000 for a family. A person must be about $5,000.

That's not quite right, either. The info below is from
http://www.ocpp.org/poverty/.

Karen

Number in Family Gross Yearly Income Gross Monthly Income* Approximate Hourly Income**

1                         $8,860                          $738                      $4.26

2                         $11,940                         $995                      $5.74

3                         $15,020                         $1,252                            $7.22

4                         $18,100                         $1,508                            $8.70

5                         $21,180                         $1,765                            $10.18

6                         $24,260                         $2,022                            $11.66

7                         $27,340                         $2,278                            $13.14

8                         $30,420                         $2,535                            $14.63

Over 8 add for each child

                        +$3,080                   +$257                     +$1.48

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 12:25:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20987
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 12:25:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00BBD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 19:51:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13983299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 19:57:51 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SNvpn02612 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:57:51 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6SNvoN17854 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          18:57:50 -0500 (CDT)
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193315.009fdd10@pop3.norton.antivirus> 
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193829.009f9640@pop3.norton.antivirus>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <007301c23692$d0c9b3c0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 18:59:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> Wow.  You're not poor until you make under $7000 a year?  You don't
get
> food stamps until then?
>
>
>     --bonniev

Well . . . some people know how to work
the system.  It is always amazing to see
people who drive up in nice cars, and seem
well dressed, and present their food stamps.
It is also amazing to see the items some
people choose for their stamps.

               - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 12:25:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20991
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 12:25:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00BC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 19:52:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13983309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 19:58:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6SNwDn02651 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:58:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AA91D842D; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 16:58:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020728235812.AA91D842D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:58:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020728235344.328FB878F@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at
              "Jul 28, 2002  4:53:44 pm"

Karen Kay said:
> $8860 for a single person. I don't know if food stamps are tied to
> that, or not. I do know that unemployment gives you too income for
> food stamps.                                           ^much
>
> Karen
>

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 12:32:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21006
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 12:32:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00C04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 19:59:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13983502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 20:05:01 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T051n03274 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:05:01 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-233.panax.com
          [63.163.41.233]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6T051n10598 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          20:05:01 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020728183728.00a038a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728200212.00b50ff8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:03:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: hongos Xalapas, mole poblano, oh my!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020728225046.39E238719@yellow.rahul.net>

At 03:50 PM 7/28/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
>bonniev said:
> > >Are you going to publish daily menus?:)
> > >Karen
> >
> > http://www.barharbormaine.com/dining_frame2.html
>
>Not exactly what I meant.

I know what you meant and the answer is no.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 12:36:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21013
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 12:36:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00C17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 20:03:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13983569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 20:08:51 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T08on03587 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:08:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C74947DEC; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 17:08:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729000849.C74947DEC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 17:08:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hongos Xalapas, mole poblano, oh my!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728200212.00b50ff8@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 28, 2002  8: 3:45 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> At 03:50 PM 7/28/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
> >bonniev said:
> > > >Are you going to publish daily menus?:)
> > > >Karen
> > >
> > > http://www.barharbormaine.com/dining_frame2.html
> >
> >Not exactly what I meant.
>
> I know what you meant and the answer is no.

A woman can hope.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 13:27:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21080
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 13:27:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001736A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 20:59:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13984464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 20:59:48 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T0xmn07445 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:59:48 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020729005943.PAJR1451.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 00:59:43 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEGMGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:02:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      FRFF
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Too exhausted to say much. Falcon Ridge was awesome. Camping was tolerable
but not enjoyable. The breakout hit band was Gandalf Murphy and the
Slambovian Circus of Dreams, http://www.slambovia.com. Of the MP3's there, I
like "Alice in Space" the best. I'm listening to their studio album now and
enjoying it immensely. They describe their music as punk-classical hillbilly
Floyd.

Alyce, sorry I couldn't come visit. Soon, I promise.

--Adam, exhausted like he's never been exhausted before
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 13:42:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21097
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 13:42:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00D6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 21:08:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13984585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 21:14:37 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T14bn07995 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:04:37 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3507829F for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:04:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6T14af21713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:04:36
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193315.009fdd10@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193829.009f9640@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <007301c23692$d0c9b3c0$360332d1@0018079268>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020728200436.A21653@pobox.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:04:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <007301c23692$d0c9b3c0$360332d1@0018079268>; from
              dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM on Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 06:59:31PM -0500

On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 06:59:31PM -0500, Doris Markland wrote:
> Well . . . some people know how to work
> the system.  It is always amazing to see
> people who drive up in nice cars, and seem
> well dressed, and present their food stamps.
> It is also amazing to see the items some
> people choose for their stamps.

Name three.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 13:49:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21113
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 13:49:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00D7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 21:16:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13984768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 21:22:01 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T1M1n09123 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:22:01 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZZ00ER4L4O8X@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:22:01 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
            <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net> <20020728171332.A29163@pobox.com>
Message-ID:  <3D449857.3050906@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:20:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 03:13:54PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>>>= >           We're going to have gazpacho, crusty bread, italian
>>>= > wine, and maybe brie for dinner, up on the roof.  It has been hot
>>>= > hot hot for the past two days.  I made the soup hours ago, and it
>>>= > is chilling nicely in the fridge.
>>>=
>>>= This is what words-l does to you ... that's why I go to the pub
>>>= instead
>>>
>>>Whadda ya mean?  Ya gotta eat somethin' for dinner, ya know?
>>>
>>>How hard is it to stick a bunch of stuff in the food processor,
>>>turn it on, run it till it's frothy and put it in the fridge?
>>>The bread: given the myriad choices of bread at the supermarket,
>>>how hard is it to pick the crusty one over the ciabatta?  The
>>>brie: who cares that it was really camembert?  The wine: was
>>>almost chilean, whatever?
>>>
>>
>>        Don't take him seriously.  He's probably eating pickled eggs
>>and party wings for dinner.
>>
>
> Excuse me Rita, how's the progress on the new and actually serious
> poem? I might be washing oysters down to with the G*****ss, but I
> don't describe it in the tone of fat and impotent boomers--which
> by the way is the optimal method currently available to ruin your
> language.


        Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:08:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21160
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:08:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00DCF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 21:34:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13985019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 21:40:18 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T1eHn10374 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:40:17 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6T1eHw19718 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          20:40:17 -0500 (CDT)
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193315.009fdd10@pop3.norton.antivirus>         
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193829.009f9640@pop3.norton.antivirus>         
            <007301c23692$d0c9b3c0$360332d1@0018079268> 
            <20020728200436.A21653@pobox.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000401c236a1$1f3385a0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:41:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 06:59:31PM -0500, Doris Markland wrote:
> > Well . . . some people know how to work
> > the system.  It is always amazing to see
> > people who drive up in nice cars, and seem
> > well dressed, and present their food stamps.
> > It is also amazing to see the items some
> > people choose for their stamps.
>
> Name three.


Cigarettes
Candy
Fritos

          - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:21:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21183
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:21:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00E50@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 21:47:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13985371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 21:53:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T1rjn11375 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:53:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9F5E27D68; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 18:53:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729015338.9F5E27D68@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 18:53:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000401c236a1$1f3385a0$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 28, 2002  8:41:55 pm"

Doris Markland said:
> > On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 06:59:31PM -0500, Doris Markland wrote:
> > > It is also amazing to see the items some
> > > people choose for their stamps.
> >
> > Name three.
>
>
> Cigarettes
> Candy
> Fritos

You can't buy cigarettes with food stamps. Candy and fritos are still food.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:25:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21190
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:25:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00E91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 21:51:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13985571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 21:57:31 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T1vVn11698 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:57:31 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZZ008PNMRUD1@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:57:30 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193315.009fdd10@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193829.009f9640@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <007301c23692$d0c9b3c0$360332d1@0018079268>
            <20020728200436.A21653@pobox.com>
            <000401c236a1$1f3385a0$360332d1@0018079268>
Message-ID:  <3D44A0A9.2040800@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:55:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:

>>On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 06:59:31PM -0500, Doris Markland wrote:
>>
>>>Well . . . some people know how to work
>>>the system.  It is always amazing to see
>>>people who drive up in nice cars, and seem
>>>well dressed, and present their food stamps.
>>>It is also amazing to see the items some
>>>people choose for their stamps.
>>>
>>Name three.
>>
>
>
> Cigarettes
> Candy
> Fritos
>


        Anything you  make as a dealer is generally non-declared for
income purposes.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:28:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21202
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:28:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001738E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:00:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13985690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 22:00:40 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T20dn11951 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:00:39 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id TAA29381 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          19:00:38 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207281858420.25820-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:00:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <007301c23692$d0c9b3c0$360332d1@0018079268>

There are restrictions on what can be bought.  I saw a very uncomfortable
cashiers have to tell a mom that she couldn't use food stamps to buy the
cookies her kid wanted.

 Sharon

On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Doris Markland wrote:

> >
> > Wow.  You're not poor until you make under $7000 a year?  You don't
> get
> > food stamps until then?
> >
> >
> >     --bonniev
>
> Well . . . some people know how to work
> the system.  It is always amazing to see
> people who drive up in nice cars, and seem
> well dressed, and present their food stamps.
> It is also amazing to see the items some
> people choose for their stamps.
>
>                - D. M.
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:31:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21220
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:31:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017391B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:03:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13985936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 22:03:37 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T23Yn12404 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:03:35 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-233.panax.com
          [63.163.41.233]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6T23Xn26468 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          22:03:33 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <007301c23692$d0c9b3c0$360332d1@0018079268>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193315.009fdd10@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193829.009f9640@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <007301c23692$d0c9b3c0$360332d1@0018079268>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728215226.00b56688@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:03:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020728200436.A21653@pobox.com>

At 08:04 PM 7/28/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:
> > It is also amazing to see the items some
> > people choose for their stamps.
>
>Name three.

Fermented yak
Dingo's kidneys
Squid entrails.

...but seriously, I see people buying entire cartloads of things like
"pizza puffs" and other junk/snack food, and paying for it with food
stamps.  Here in Maine, I don't think that they can use stamps to buy
tobacco (definitely not any alcohol), but it amazes me how much they (and
other consumers) buy that is of virtually no nutritional value.

It is fairly clear that the "food pyramid" and other healthy-nutrition
types, for all of their posturing and chest-thumping, have not really had
much impact on the nation's eating habits.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:38:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21224
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:38:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00F85@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:05:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13986381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 22:11:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T2B5n13353 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:11:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 656E8813D; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 19:11:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729021104.656E8813D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:11:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207281858420.25820-100000@idiom.com> from Sharon
              Ziperovich at "Jul 28, 2002  7: 0:38 pm"

Sharon Ziperovich said:
> There are restrictions on what can be bought.  I saw a very uncomfortable
> cashiers have to tell a mom that she couldn't use food stamps to buy the
> cookies her kid wanted.

>From http://www.dss.state.va.us/benefit/foodstamp.html:
"What Can Be Bought With Food Stamps?
You can use food stamps to buy food or seeds and plants to grow food
in your home garden.

You cannot use food stamps to buy:

    * Alcoholic beverages or tobacco;
    * Hot foods ready for immediate consumption or foods to be eaten
    * on the store premises;
    * Pet foods;
    * Soap or paper products or other non-food items.
      You cannot use food stamps to pay back grocery bills."

I don't see why you couldn't buy cookies.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:44:24 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21234
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:44:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15809
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:15:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00F9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:08:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13986467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 22:14:40 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T2Een13643 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:14:40 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZZ00E1WNKF6Y@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:14:40 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207281858420.25820-100000@idiom.com>
Message-ID:  <3D44A4AE.5010906@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:13:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

        She might have been using WIC foodstamps, which are way more
restrictive than regular foodstamps.


Sharon Ziperovich wrote:

> There are restrictions on what can be bought.  I saw a very uncomfortable
> cashiers have to tell a mom that she couldn't use food stamps to buy the
> cookies her kid wanted.
>
>  Sharon
>
> On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Doris Markland wrote:
>
>
>>>Wow.  You're not poor until you make under $7000 a year?  You don't
>>>
>>get
>>
>>>food stamps until then?
>>>
>>>
>>>    --bonniev
>>>
>>Well . . . some people know how to work
>>the system.  It is always amazing to see
>>people who drive up in nice cars, and seem
>>well dressed, and present their food stamps.
>>It is also amazing to see the items some
>>people choose for their stamps.
>>
>>               - D. M.
>>
>>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:46:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21246
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:46:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00FA8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:12:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13986506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 22:18:25 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T2IOn13874 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:18:24 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws187-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.187]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6T2II710614
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:18:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020728211859.A100D853D@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D44A5ED.C5195688@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:18:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > > How hard is it to stick a bunch of stuff in the food processor,
> >
> > But then it's dirty, and you have to wash it.
>
> But this is precisely why God invented dishwashers.

Can a food processor be washed in a dishwasher?  I got one as a gift a
number of years ago but don't think I ever used it.  When I do use the
dishwasher, I wash the dishes first.  I've watched people put totally
grungy stuff into dishwashers, but somehow that strikes me as nasty.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:46:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21250
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:46:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00FAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:13:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13986518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 22:18:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T2Ivn13896 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:18:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 42E5C81F6; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 19:18:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729021856.42E5C81F6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:18:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D44A4AE.5010906@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 28,
              2002  9:13: 2 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
>         She might have been using WIC foodstamps, which are way more
> restrictive than regular foodstamps.

That would be my guess.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:47:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21254
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:47:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00FB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:13:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13986535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 22:19:24 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T2JOn13951 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:19:24 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws187-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.187]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6T2JI710868
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:19:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020728164820.00a05ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D44A628.8C5F2324@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:19:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Sunday Movie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> Good movie.  Did you know that the plane going into the house was NOT in
> the book?

I can't remember whether I saw the movie.  Was it as good as the book?
I do remember loving the book.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:47:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21258
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:47:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00FB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:14:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13986554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 22:20:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T2K9n14022 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:20:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws187-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.187]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6T2K4711011
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:20:05 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020728231911.3840D7EFB@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D44A657.C0E75307@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:20:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> I just looked up the Federal Poverty Index Guidelines (to see if I
> qualify for medical assistance from the City of Austin). Without looking, do
> you know what's considered poverty for a single person?

Under about $8000 a year?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:48:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21262
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:48:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00FBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:14:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13986566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 22:20:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T2KCn14033 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:20:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0F11E806D; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 19:20:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729022012.0F11E806D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:20:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D44A5ED.C5195688@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 28,
              2002  9:18:21 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Can a food processor be washed in a dishwasher?

Everything except the motor.

> When I do use the dishwasher, I wash the dishes first.

What a huge waste of water!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:48:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21266
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:48:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00FBE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:15:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13986581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 22:21:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T2L0n14091 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:21:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0A1C97E80; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 19:21:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729022100.0A1C97E80@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:20:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D44A657.C0E75307@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 28,
              2002  9:20: 7 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I just looked up the Federal Poverty Index Guidelines (to see if I
> > qualify for medical assistance from the City of Austin). Without looking, do
> > you know what's considered poverty for a single person?
>
> Under about $8000 a year?

Very good! I had no idea it was that low.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:48:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21270
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:48:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00FC0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:15:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13986589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 22:21:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T2L9n14103 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:21:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws187-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.187]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6T2L5711242
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:21:05 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193315.009fdd10@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D44A693.B9308E0@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:21:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> No, but I'll take a guess:  an annual income under $23,000.

That's higher than the level for a family of four, isn't it?  And she
said a single person.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:50:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21274
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:50:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00FCA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:17:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13986629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 22:23:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T2N1n14251 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:23:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D4A1C7D78; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 19:22:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729022259.D4A1C7D78@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:22:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: bons mots
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D444CC3.53D42001@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 28,
              2002  3:57:55 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Here's what came back at me when I suggested bon mots.

Tell them to google on it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:53:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21278
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:53:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00FD4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:19:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13986660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 22:25:32 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T2PWn14395 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:25:32 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws187-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.187]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6T2PN712306
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:25:24 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193315.009fdd10@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193829.009f9640@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <007301c23692$d0c9b3c0$360332d1@0018079268>
            <20020728200436.A21653@pobox.com>
            <000401c236a1$1f3385a0$360332d1@0018079268>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D44A796.23912F62@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:25:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:

> > > It is also amazing to see the items some
> > > people choose for their stamps.
> >
> > Name three.
>
> Cigarettes
> Candy
> Fritos

You can't buy cigarettes with food stamps.  I thought you couldn't buy
candy either, though I'm not positive.  You'll notice that people paying
with food stamps usually separate the purchases into those that can be
paid for with food stamps and those that they use money for.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:56:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21285
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:56:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00FDF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:22:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13986702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 22:28:27 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T2SRn14611 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:28:27 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws187-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.187]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6T2SI713105
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:28:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020729021104.656E8813D@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D44A845.FDBB6A97@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:28:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I don't see why you couldn't buy cookies.

Maybe because they could be eaten on the premises.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:58:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21297
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 14:58:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F00FEA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:24:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13986754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 22:30:27 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T2URn14797 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:30:27 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws187-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.187]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6T2UJ713603
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:30:22 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020729022012.0F11E806D@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D44A8BE.FCAD9A15@maynor.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:30:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > When I do use the dishwasher, I wash the dishes first.
>
> What a huge waste of water!

That's one reason I almost never use the dishwasher -- the excess water
along with the waste of electricity.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:04:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21313
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 15:03:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F01011@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:30:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13986895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 22:36:10 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T2aAn15314 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:36:10 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2D79281F6; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 19:36:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729023609.2D79281F6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:36:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D44A845.FDBB6A97@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 28,
              2002  9:28:21 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I don't see why you couldn't buy cookies.
>
> Maybe because they could be eaten on the premises.

But pkg cookies aren't *designed* for that.

I do remember hearing something about a CA junk food law, though.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:04:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21320
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 15:04:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00173A99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:36:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13986917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 22:36:36 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T2aan15346 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:36:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A37B681FA; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 19:36:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729023635.A37B681FA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:36:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D44A8BE.FCAD9A15@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 28,
              2002  9:30:22 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > When I do use the dishwasher, I wash the dishes first.
> >
> > What a huge waste of water!
>
> That's one reason I almost never use the dishwasher -- the excess water
> along with the waste of electricity.

Good for you.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:29:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21345
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 15:29:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00173C6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 23:01:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13989248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 23:01:33 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T31Xn18350 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 23:01:33 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZZ0080APQKD4@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:01:33 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
Message-ID:  <3D44AFAC.4060806@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:59:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      The NERVE
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Blue Moon Review is running around declaring themselves the
oldest literary 'zine on the Internet.  Bastards.  CORE
predates them by three years.

--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:30:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21358
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 15:30:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0138F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 22:56:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13989586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 23:02:16 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T32Fn18587 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 23:02:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E93157DB8; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 20:02:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729030214.E93157DB8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:02:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: The NERVE
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D44AFAC.4060806@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 28,
              2002  9:59:56 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Blue Moon Review is running around declaring themselves the
> oldest literary 'zine on the Internet.  Bastards.  CORE
> predates them by three years.

Did you tell them?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:33:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21363
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 15:33:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00173D78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 23:05:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13991090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 23:05:50 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T35nn19419 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 23:05:49 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0GZZ008A0PXPD6@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:05:49 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020729030214.E93157DB8@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D44B0AC.3020701@swbell.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:04:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: The NERVE
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>Blue Moon Review is running around declaring themselves the
>>oldest literary 'zine on the Internet.  Bastards.  CORE
>>predates them by three years.
>>
>
> Did you tell them?
>

I dispatched an email a few minutes ago.  I always feel
goofy when I get interviewed about ETEXT because I don't
figure I know that much, but I do know about the early
history of who was trying to publish fiction online (all of
it was SF/Fantasy when I started CORE up).




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:38:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21372
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 15:38:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00173DFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 23:10:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13991800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 23:10:52 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T3Aqn20021 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 23:10:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BA82286A5; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 20:10:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729031051.BA82286A5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:10:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Go, Lance!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Well, I guess he did.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 16:04:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21420
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 16:04:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F01784@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Jul 2002 23:30:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13992468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28
          Jul 2002 23:36:32 -0400
Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T3aVn22035 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 23:36:31 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.dc.1aa16ae1 (3850) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          23:36:21 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <dc.1aa16ae1.2a761235@aol.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 23:36:21 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/28/2002 8:22:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes:

<<
Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.

>>

This reminds me of my niece.  Marissa used to imitate it when
she was a little girl, and she was so cute and funny.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 17:07:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21506
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 17:07:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F01B91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 0:34:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13995607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 00:39:55 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f37.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.37]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T4dtn28043 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 00:39:55 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun,
          28 Jul 2002 21:39:49 -0700
Received: from 207.162.163.19 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 04:39:49 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [207.162.163.19]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 04:39:49.0705 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[F92BEB90:01C236B9]
Message-ID:  <F37LUEM7RAluo3npvqn00002df1@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 04:39:49 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I went to a drive-in movie theater tonight. It was great!

When was the last time you went to one, if ever?

AS

_________________________________________________________________
Discutez en ligne avec vos amis ! http://messenger.msn.fr

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 18:28:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21591
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 18:28:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001744B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 2:00:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13997802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 02:00:12 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T60Bn02417 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 02:00:11 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id XAA38039 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          23:00:10 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207282258540.36707-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 23:00:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D44A4AE.5010906@swbell.net>

I couldn't say.  It was a long time ago, and only sticks in my memory
because everyone was so uncomfortable.

 Sharon

On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Rita Chapman wrote:

>         She might have been using WIC foodstamps, which are way more
> restrictive than regular foodstamps.
>
>
> Sharon Ziperovich wrote:
>
> > There are restrictions on what can be bought.  I saw a very uncomfortable
> > cashiers have to tell a mom that she couldn't use food stamps to buy the
> > cookies her kid wanted.
> >
> >  Sharon
> >
> > On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Doris Markland wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>Wow.  You're not poor until you make under $7000 a year?  You don't
> >>>
> >>get
> >>
> >>>food stamps until then?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    --bonniev
> >>>
> >>Well . . . some people know how to work
> >>the system.  It is always amazing to see
> >>people who drive up in nice cars, and seem
> >>well dressed, and present their food stamps.
> >>It is also amazing to see the items some
> >>people choose for their stamps.
> >>
> >>               - D. M.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita
>
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 18:31:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21605
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 18:31:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F01EB5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 1:57:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13998538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 02:03:32 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T63Vn03905 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 02:03:31 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id XAA39380 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jul 2002
          23:03:31 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207282302390.36707-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Sun, 28 Jul 2002 23:03:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F37LUEM7RAluo3npvqn00002df1@hotmail.com>

It's been at least 5 years.  We have (or had the last time I checked) a
great drive-in in San Jose.  Sounds like something we should do soon.

  Sharon

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Amy Burns Short wrote:

> I went to a drive-in movie theater tonight. It was great!
>
> When was the last time you went to one, if ever?
>
> AS
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Discutez en ligne avec vos amis ! http://messenger.msn.fr
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 19:18:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21681
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 19:18:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F01FB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 2:45:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13999263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 02:51:03 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T6f3n06856 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 02:41:03 -0400
Received: from virtua239-119.netpar.com.br (virtua239-119.netpar.com.br
          [200.250.239.119] (may be forged)) by pasta.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6T6f1V27476 for
          <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 02:41:02 -0400
X-Authentication-Warning: pasta.cc.uga.edu: virtua239-119.netpar.com.br
                         [200.250.239.119] (may be forged) didn't use HELO
                         protocol
Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by 1EC1KK.uga.cc.uga.edu with SMTP for
          words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 02:38:11 -0500
X-Encoding: MIME
X-Sender: words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <LTEK9G26CVGB178YYL0P.0SPJ0JS.words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 02:38:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: words-l@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
Subject:      Mortgage Rates Have Never Been Lower
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

We will help you get the mortgage loan you want!

Only takes 2 minutes to fill out our form.
http://xnet.123alias.com/index.php

Whether a new home loan is what you seek or to refinance your current home =
loan
at a lower interest rate and payment, we can help!

Mortgage rates haven't been this low in the last 12 months, take action now!
Refinance your home with us and include all of those pesky credit card bills =
or
use the extra cash for that pool you've always wanted...

Where others says NO, we say YES!!!
Even if you have been turned down elsewhere, we can help!

Easy terms! Our mortgage referral service combines the
highest quality loans with most economical rates and the easiest =
qualification!

Click Here to fill out our form.
http://xnet.123alias.com/index.php

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 20:23:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21764
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 20:23:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F020CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 3:49:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14000313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 03:55:09 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T7t8n12055 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 03:55:08 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4GK9>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:55:07 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4GK8; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:54:54 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020729094850.03393448@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:54:45 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Cat meets rabbit and other gifs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020726144303.03247ad8@victoria.nb.no>

When we were in Austria our rabbit stayed at my mother's place. For a week
her cat *knew* that there was a strange animal in a room she was not let
into. Then when we came to take the rabbit home, we first walked him
outside the house and let the cat see what strange creature this was. The
cat was curious and the rabbit ignored the cat completely:

<http://home.no.net/espenore/2002/katkan.jpg>

I can't resist one more of one of the twins - when he was sleeping and
snoring quietly on my arm:

<http://home.no.net/espenore/2002/kristesp.jpg>

And here is one of my mother and me as we were enjoing ice cream in
downtown Bergen:

<http://home.no.net/espenore/2002/bergenis.jpg>

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 20:31:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21784
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 20:31:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F020EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 3:57:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14000413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 04:03:49 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T83mn12826 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 04:03:49 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6T8AKL23381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:10:20
          +0200
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
            <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445198.93E5890D@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729101020.A23371@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:10:20 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D445198.93E5890D@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Sun,
              Jul 28, 2002 at 03:18:33PM -0500

On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 03:18:33PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote:
= steph wrote:
=
= > How hard is it to stick a bunch of stuff in the food processor,
=
= But then it's dirty, and you have to wash it.
=

I ran the dishwasher before dinner.  Gazpacho is not gloopy,
just toss the parts in and go.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 20:36:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21788
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 20:36:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F020F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 4:02:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14000431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 04:08:18 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T88In13082 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 04:08:18 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4GMJ>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:08:17 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4GM2; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:08:09 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020729100303.00bfb6e8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:08:00 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Relaxed!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020726144303.03247ad8@victoria.nb.no>

Saturday we rented kayaks again - this time single kayaks. There is not
much to say about that except to say that it is in some ways better than a
double kayak, in some ways less social but there is still the great joy and
feeling of beeing one with the sea, being able to m,ove slowlig in the
shallows and really see what is on the bottom, the feeling of being in
contact with what is happening when there are enough waves for them to hit
and roll over the bow, and the feeling of absolute freedom in that wherever
we see a nice place we can decide to stop, draw up the kayaks and rest and
swim.

This <good> feelingstayed on Sunday when we went for a hike in the forest
up to a small lake and swam even if it was raining: we also found some very
good mushrooms (mainly of the amanita vaginata group).

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 20:40:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21799
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 20:40:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02103@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 4:06:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14000471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 04:12:12 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T8CBn13320 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 04:12:11 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6T8Ihd23394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:18:43
          +0200
References: <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
            <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net> <20020728171332.A29163@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729101843.B23371@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:18:43 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020728171332.A29163@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on
              Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 05:13:32PM -0500

On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 05:13:32PM -0500, Tushar Samant wrote:
= >
= > > = >           We're going to have gazpacho, crusty bread, italian
= > > = > wine, and maybe brie for dinner, up on the roof.  It has been hot
= > > = > hot hot for the past two days.  I made the soup hours ago, and it
= > > = > is chilling nicely in the fridge.
= > > =
= poem? I might be washing oysters down to with the G*****ss, but I
= don't describe it in the tone of fat and impotent boomers--which


Ok, you mean it should be like:

Man, it is so hot here, and I am really not going to heat the
house up anymore by cooking something.  I thought, yeah, this is
a great night to have gaspacho for dinner - just throw a bunch of
stuff into the food processor, whirl, and stick in the fridge.
Serve with bread, cheese, a little wine.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 20:49:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21819
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 20:49:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0211D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 4:15:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14000543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 04:21:19 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T8LJn13837 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 04:21:19 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4GN4>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:21:18 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4GNT; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:21:06 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D415D8F.A91F9FB3@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020729101928.00bace00@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:20:57 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: take the Pope Quiz
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4127AF.29932.6AB5AF@localhost>

10:42 26.07.2002 -0400 skrev Paul R. Barfoot:
>http://cbc.ca/news/features/catholic/quiz.html
>
>I only got 10 out of 25

I got 1.

Espen - who as part of his degrees is supposed to be able to teach religion
in schools

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 20:55:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21827
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 20:55:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0212A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 4:21:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14000564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 04:27:03 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T8R2n14166 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 04:27:02 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6T8XY923422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:33:34
          +0200
References: <20020728211859.A100D853D@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D44A5ED.C5195688@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729103334.C23371@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:33:34 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D44A5ED.C5195688@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Sun,
              Jul 28, 2002 at 09:18:21PM -0500

= dishwasher, I wash the dishes first.  I've watched people put totally
= grungy stuff into dishwashers, but somehow that strikes me as nasty.
=
= --
=  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Hell, it's possible to put the remnants of a jar of moldy storebought pesto
into the dishwasher.  If the dishes come out covered in pesto the
first time, just run it again!

steph
who loves her dishwasher

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 20:59:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21842
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 20:59:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02144@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 4:26:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14000642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 04:31:59 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T8Vxn14447 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 04:31:59 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4G3Q>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:31:58 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4G33; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:31:53 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020729103052.033c4a18@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:31:45 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: perhaps not total relaxation, but...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020726173320.00b49ba8@mail.panax.com>

18:03 26.07.2002 -0400 skrev clyde w. voigtlander:
>The forecast today approached perfection:  light winds, mostly sunny, highs

I really would like to go and visit Bar Harbor!

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 21:03:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21852
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 21:03:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0214C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 4:29:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14000676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 04:35:29 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T8ZTn14717 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 04:35:29 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4G3Z>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:35:28 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4G3Y; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:35:24 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <F280fIcL6YXjpfGy6zC000015b9@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020729103458.03394cf8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:35:16 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: What is everybody doing?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020726204038.00a1b980@pop3.norton.antivirus>

20:42 26.07.2002 -0400 skrev bonniev:
>>>  On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Marie Ascher wrote:
>>>
>>> > I don't know what it is, but my total cholesterol/HDL ratio
>>> > turns out to be outstanding at 2.2. Olive oil rocks!
>
>Olive oil, exercise, and good genes have put me at a 2.8 even at my
>advanced age.

Cod liver oil is even better.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 21:15:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21872
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 21:15:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0216F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 4:41:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14000785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 04:47:50 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T8lon15493 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 04:47:50 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4GP8>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:47:49 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4GP7; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:47:36 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020729104714.033944c0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:47:28 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Pictures Pictures
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D42DC9D.6C4244C7@pop.mindspring.com>

12:47 27.07.2002 -0500 skrev Sylvia Edwards:
>My grandchildren are here...  a picture overload.
>
>http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/edwards.geo/lst?&.dir=/July+2002&.src=bc&.view=l
>--

Very good!

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 21:42:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21892
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 21:42:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F021D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 5:09:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14001122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 05:14:53 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T9Eqn17332 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 05:14:53 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6T9LOd23572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:21:24
          +0200
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020728183728.00a038a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020728225046.39E238719@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020728200212.00b50ff8@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729112124.A23549@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:21:24 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: hongos Xalapas, mole poblano, oh my!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728200212.00b50ff8@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 08:03:45PM -0400

On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 08:03:45PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
= At 03:50 PM 7/28/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
= >bonniev said:
= > > >Are you going to publish daily menus?:)
= > > >Karen
= > >
= > > http://www.barharbormaine.com/dining_frame2.html
= >
= >Not exactly what I meant.
=
= I know what you meant and the answer is no.
=
= cwv

What if there were a little cookin' going on?  Would you join in
the fun?

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 21:47:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21912
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 21:47:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F021E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 5:13:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14001164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 05:19:07 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T9J6n17615 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 05:19:06 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6T9Pcp23608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:25:38
          +0200
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
            <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729112538.B23549@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:25:38 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Sun,
              Jul 28, 2002 at 03:13:54PM -0500

= > how hard is it to pick the crusty one over the ciabatta?  The
= > brie: who cares that it was really camembert?  The wine: was
= > almost chilean, whatever?
= >
=
=
=         Don't take him seriously.  He's probably eating pickled eggs
= and party wings for dinner.
=

There wouldn't be much fun to it if I didn't.  He likes to poke
so hard at what everyone else does.  What's the last thing he
cooked, don't you wonder?  Perhaps he's got bachelor techy down
to an art: pizza, happy hour food and soup from a can?  I grew
out of that for all the time, but we still do it a lot (well,
there's not much in the way of happy hour food here, but the
pizza and ramen are still quite frequent).

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 21:55:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21919
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 21:55:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F021FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 5:21:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14001241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 05:27:19 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T9RIn18133 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 05:27:18 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6T9XoC23638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:33:50
          +0200
References: <003401c23675$6bdb4180$360332d1@0018079268>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020728164820.00a05ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729113350.C23549@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:33:50 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sunday Movie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728164820.00a05ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>; from
              bonniev@PANAX.COM on Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 04:48:45PM -0400

=
= Good movie.  Did you know that the plane going into the house was NOT in
= the book?
=
=
=     --bonniev

Are you sure?  Geez, it's been a long time since I've read that
book.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 22:08:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA21944
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 22 Jun 1960 22:08:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0222A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 5:34:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14001368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 05:40:21 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T9eLn19014 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 05:40:21 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4GTW>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:40:20 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4GT4; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:40:09 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020729113916.03059208@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:40:01 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Big mushroom!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D43F941.AF07E82B@valstar.net>

10:01 28.07.2002 -0400 skrev alyce cresap:
>Pen caption on reverse reads, "Edible mushroom over 9 lbs, Richard
>Salerno,
>George Calhoun, both of 73 Elm Street, found off New Scotland Ave. near
>Slingerlands.
>
>http://www.balopticon.com/images/bigmushroom.jpg

An oyster mushroom of some sort? (There is one similar (I can't see the
colour here) which grows on birch in Norway.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 00:27:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22089
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 00:27:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02623@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 7:53:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13978187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 07:59:46 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TBxkn11895 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:59:46 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws89-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.89]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6TBxg702261
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 06:59:42 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020729023609.2D79281F6@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 06:58:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > > I don't see why you couldn't buy cookies.
> >
> > Maybe because they could be eaten on the premises.
>
> But pkg cookies aren't *designed* for that.

And actually pretty much anything could be eaten on the premises.
Certainly a slice of bread could easily be yanked out of the wrapper and
consumed or a jug of milk opened and swigged from, etc.  I do think,
though, that I've seen candy bars put into the little pile of
non-foodstamp-eligible stuff when people in front of me in line are
paying with food stamps.  Maybe candy bars fall more easily into the
designed-to-be-eaten-on-the-premises thing.  I'll try to remember to pay
more attention in the future.

Although I've read/heard stories about food-stamp-users driving
expensive cars and wearing expensive clothes, I've never observed that
myself.  As for food choices, though, I think it's probably documented
in sociological studies that there's some correlation between low income
and bad nutrition, whether from lack of knowledge of good nutrition or
other reasons.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 00:34:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22110
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 00:34:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02674@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:00:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13978442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:06:36 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TC6an12699 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:06:36 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-116.panax.com
          [65.114.190.116]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6TC6bn04038 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          08:06:37 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020728200212.00b50ff8@mail.panax.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020728183728.00a038a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020728225046.39E238719@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020728200212.00b50ff8@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729080131.00b2ffc0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:02:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: hongos Xalapas, mole poblano, oh my!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729112124.A23549@yoccoz.multinix.com>

At 11:21 AM 7/29/2002 +0200, steph wrote:

>What if there were a little cookin' going on?  Would you join in
>the fun?

Perhaps.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 00:34:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22117
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 00:34:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02675@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:00:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13978446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:06:38 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TC6cn12706 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:06:38 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-116.panax.com
          [65.114.190.116]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6TC6cn04047 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          08:06:39 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020726173320.00b49ba8@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729080253.00b25030@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:03:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: perhaps not total relaxation, but...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020729103052.033c4a18@victoria.nb.no>

At 10:31 AM 7/29/2002 +0200, espen wrote:
>18:03 26.07.2002 -0400 skrev clyde w. voigtlander:
>>The forecast today approached perfection:  light winds, mostly sunny, highs
>
>I really would like to go and visit Bar Harbor!

By all means, do so.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 00:34:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22120
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 00:34:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02678@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:00:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13978456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:06:39 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TC6dn12717 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:06:39 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-116.panax.com
          [65.114.190.116]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6TC6en04057 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          08:06:40 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020726144303.03247ad8@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729080334.00b3c268@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:06:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Relaxed!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020729100303.00bfb6e8@victoria.nb.no>

At 10:08 AM 7/29/2002 +0200, espen wrote:
>Saturday we rented kayaks again - this time single kayaks. There is not
>much to say about that except to say that it is in some ways better than a
>double kayak, in some ways less social but there is still the great joy and
>feeling of beeing one with the sea, being able to m,ove slowlig in the
>shallows and really see what is on the bottom,

Yes, indeed.  It's the poking around in the shallows and the ability to
move so quietly that you don't disturb the wildlife that I enjoy most.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 00:35:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22124
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 00:35:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0268A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:02:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13978499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:07:52 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TC7qn12898 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:07:52 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws89-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.89]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6TC7h703446
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:07:43 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F37LUEM7RAluo3npvqn00002df1@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D453012.1E472BAD@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:07:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:

> When was the last time you went to one, if ever?

It's probably been over twenty years since I've been to one, but I
certainly went regularly in the long-ago years, starting in babydom,
when my parents  didn't like the idea of baby-sitters (or couldn't
afford them) and would for nights out go to drive-in movies, taking us
with them.  It worked out perfectly in that we children would watch the
cartoons that always preceded the movies, then fall asleep and sleep
happily while Mama and Daddy watched the movie.  (I guess in my real
infancy I didn't watch the cartoons.)  We continued going to drive-in
movies occasionally in my later childhood, and then of course going to
the drive-in was a major part of teenaged years, usually with a date and
not to watch the movie or occasionally with groups of friends to see who
was making out with whom in other cars.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 00:37:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22128
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 00:37:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02699@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:03:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13978530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:09:21 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe19.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TC9Ln13020 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:09:21 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 05:09:15 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
References: <20020729023609.2D79281F6@yellow.rahul.net> 
            <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 12:09:15.0591 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C2179570:01C236F8]
Message-ID:  <OE197MaMK4vl3brNHhm00002211@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:07:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Let's say that a family of four has a mother who stays at home, and a father
who has a factory job where he earns a good living. They might be able to
buy a new car every so often. Not an unreasonable aspiration in America.
Then, let's say that factory job gets exported to Mexico and all the
American workers lose their jobs. After the proper amount of time, that
family would qualify for food stamps. Doris, what are they supposed to
do--sell their new car in shame, so that they can be seen driving to the
supermarket in an old rusty wagon?

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 00:37:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22132
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 00:37:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F026A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:03:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13978566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:09:41 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TC9fn13082 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:09:41 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws89-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.89]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6TC9Y703737
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:09:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020729094850.03393448@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D45307F.879822C6@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:09:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Cat meets rabbit and other gifs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:

> I can't resist one more of one of the twins - when he was sleeping and
> snoring quietly on my arm:

You shouldn't have cut off your head!

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 00:39:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22137
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 00:39:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017508D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:11:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13978628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:11:49 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TCBmn13284 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:11:48 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws89-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.89]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6TCBk703959
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:11:46 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020729103052.033c4a18@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D453105.4CD90BF5@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:11:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: perhaps not total relaxation, but...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:

> I really would like to go and visit Bar Harbor!

4 July 2003.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 00:46:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22149
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 00:46:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0270B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:12:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13978799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:18:51 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f247.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.247]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TCIpn14017 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:18:51 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 05:18:45 -0700
Received: from 207.162.163.19 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 12:18:45 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [207.162.163.19]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 12:18:45.0713 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[15E94C10:01C236FA]
Message-ID:  <F247Mx5AONLfw9ugwdr000031b4@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:18:45 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie:

>When was the last time you went to one, if ever?

>It's probably been over twenty years since I've been to one, but I
certainly went regularly in the long-ago years, starting in babydom,
when my parents  didn't like the idea of baby-sitters (or couldn't
afford them) and would for nights out go to drive-in movies, taking us
with them.  It worked out perfectly in that we children would watch the
cartoons that always preceded the movies, then fall asleep and sleep
happily while Mama and Daddy watched the movie.  (I guess in my real
infancy I didn't watch the cartoons.)  We continued going to drive-in
movies occasionally in my later childhood, and then of course going to
the drive-in was a major part of teenaged years, usually with a date and
not to watch the movie or occasionally with groups of friends to see who
was making out with whom in other cars.

I hadn't been since high school. The place where we went has been in
continuous operation since the 50s, though. It was perfect for an evening
out with Master Carl and Mother. I brought the same chair I packed to
Jigglefest, along with a couple of others, and we set up camp next to the
car to catch the breeze. It wasn't very crowded at all. Kids can play;
adults can relax (especially after kids conk out). Next weekend is Lilo and
Stitch. Last evening was Wind Talkers -- pleasantly violent.

AS

_________________________________________________________________
Affichez, modifiez et partagez gratuitement vos photos en ligne:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:01:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22162
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:01:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001751FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:33:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13979595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:33:22 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TCXMn16030 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:33:22 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-4.panax.com [65.114.190.4])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TCXMn07985 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:33:23 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020728164820.00a05ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729083217.009ecd90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:33:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sunday Movie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D44A628.8C5F2324@maynor.net>

>bonniev wrote:
> > Good movie.  Did you know that the plane going into the house was NOT in
> > the book?
>
>I can't remember whether I saw the movie.  Was it as good as the book?
>I do remember loving the book.
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

I thought the movie was every bit as good as the book.  Even though it
didn't follow the book exactly, the movie had truly caught the spirit of
the book.  I was impressed.  I don't often feel that way.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:05:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22166
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:05:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02897@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:31:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13979972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:36:57 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TCaun16801 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:36:56 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-4.panax.com [65.114.190.4])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TCavn08506 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:36:57 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020729022012.0F11E806D@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729083358.009fdcb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:36:42 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D44A8BE.FCAD9A15@maynor.net>

>That's one reason I almost never use the dishwasher -- the excess water
>along with the waste of electricity.
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

My only reason that I almost never use the dishwasher is that I hate the
noise and the fact that it goes on and on and on.  I did use it this past
July 4th week when we had company.  For the first time I noticed how very
clean it gets the dishes.  On the other hand, over time, it was taking the
paint off of my good china.  I do use the dishwasher at the Inn.  And I
don't wash the dishes first.  The gooey, gummy mixer parts go right in
there and come out nicely clean.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:10:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22178
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:10:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F028F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:36:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13980242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:42:25 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TCgPn17553 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:42:25 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws91-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.91]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6TCgL708709
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:42:22 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F247Mx5AONLfw9ugwdr000031b4@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D453830.22EFA12D@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:42:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:

> continuous operation since the 50s, though. It was perfect for an evening
> out with Master Carl and Mother. I brought the same chair I packed to
> Jigglefest, along with a couple of others, and we set up camp next to the
> car to catch the breeze. It wasn't very crowded at all. Kids can play;

I remember the play areas near the concession buildings in the old
drive-ins in Jackson.  Drive-ins really were a great idea.  I wonder why
there aren't as many of them anymore.  I also wonder, now that I think
about it, whether the old drive-in outside of Starkville that showed
X-rated movies when I moved here 30+ years ago is still in operation.
It's on an old hwy that I don't have occasion to be on.  I kind of think
the drive-in is no longer there.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:14:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22186
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:14:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02954@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:41:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13980501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:46:55 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TCktn18186 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:46:55 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws91-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.91]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6TCkr709511
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:46:53 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020729022012.0F11E806D@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729083358.009fdcb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D453940.4CC10916@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:46:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> My only reason that I almost never use the dishwasher is that I hate the
> noise and the fact that it goes on and on and on.  I did use it this past

I don't like taking the dishes out.  Why that's more of a bother than
taking them out of the drying rack beside the sink I'm not sure, but it
does seem to be.  (One reason, I guess, is that if I use the dishwasher
just for me, something I rarely do, it means about a week's worth of
dishes to put away at the same time instead of just a few.)  I also hate
when I forget to open its door after the washing is finished so that the
dishes can get somewhat dry overnight.  I usually remember, but still
they aren't usually totally dry.  (I never used "heated drying.")

> July 4th week when we had company.  For the first time I noticed how very
> clean it gets the dishes.  On the other hand, over time, it was taking the
> paint off of my good china.  I do use the dishwasher at the Inn.  And I
> don't wash the dishes first.  The gooey, gummy mixer parts go right in
> there and come out nicely clean.

There are different <strengths> of dishwashers.  Is the one in the inn a
commercial one?  The only time I've used a commercial one was with Paul
and lovejudith at a folk-dance camp we were cleaning up to get ready for
the summer season.  I was in charge of running a large, strange
dishwasher after the meal -- super fast, super hot, etc.  Even among
home dishwashers, the powerfulness or whatever varies a good bit.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:17:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22198
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:17:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0298B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:43:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13980665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:49:36 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TCnan18772 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:49:36 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-4.panax.com [65.114.190.4])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TCnan10623 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:49:37 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020728164820.00a05ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <003401c23675$6bdb4180$360332d1@0018079268>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020728164820.00a05ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729084614.009f9a00@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:49:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sunday Movie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729113350.C23549@yoccoz.multinix.com>

>= Good movie.  Did you know that the plane going into the house was NOT in
>= the book?
>=     --bonniev
>
>Are you sure?  Geez, it's been a long time since I've read that
>book.      --steph

Yes, I'm absolutely positive.  I clearly remember being stunned in the
theatre when that happened.  But then I thought, "of course, that's
consistent with the book".  I was a huge John Irving fan.  Still am.  I
went back and read everything he had written before Garp and have read most
of what he has written since.  I was saddened when he got a divorce because
only a man who loved his children greatly could write the way he
did.  Quite a number of his books mention a father sneaking into his
child's bedroom at night and just watching the child breathe.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:21:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22205
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:21:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F029E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:47:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13980953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:53:41 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TCrfn19513 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:53:41 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-4.panax.com [65.114.190.4])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TCrfn11332 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:53:41 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020729023609.2D79281F6@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729085131.009fa030@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:53:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE197MaMK4vl3brNHhm00002211@hotmail.com>

>Let's say that a family of four has a mother who stays at home, and a father
>who has a factory job where he earns a good living. They might be able to
>buy a new car every so often. Not an unreasonable aspiration in America.
>Then, let's say that factory job gets exported to Mexico and all the
>American workers lose their jobs. After the proper amount of time, that
>family would qualify for food stamps. Doris, what are they supposed to
>do--sell their new car in shame, so that they can be seen driving to the
>supermarket in an old rusty wagon?      -aht

I know what Natalie would answer.  First of all they should have saved
money against the possibility of being out of work.  Secondly, both parents
should go get any menial job in order to not take the hand out of food
stamps.  Thirdly, before ever applying for food stamps, they should sell
the car and use that money to feed their kids.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:22:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22212
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:22:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F029FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:48:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13981022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:54:45 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TCsjn19626 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:54:45 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-4.panax.com [65.114.190.4])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TCsjn11530 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:54:46 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <F37LUEM7RAluo3npvqn00002df1@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729085358.00a021f0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:54:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D453012.1E472BAD@maynor.net>

>cartoons that always preceded the movies, then fall asleep and sleep
>happily while Mama and Daddy watched the movie.
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

How is your mother doing?  Are you going to sell the Huntsville house?


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:29:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22217
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:29:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02AE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:55:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13981902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:01:47 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TD1ln21735 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:01:47 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-4.panax.com [65.114.190.4])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TD1mn12681 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:01:48 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020729022012.0F11E806D@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729083358.009fdcb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729085905.009feec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:01:33 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D453940.4CC10916@maynor.net>

>There are different <strengths> of dishwashers.  Is the one in the inn a
>commercial one?  The only time I've used a commercial one was with Paul
>and lovejudith at a folk-dance camp we were cleaning up to get ready for
>the summer season.  I was in charge of running a large, strange
>dishwasher after the meal -- super fast, super hot, etc.  Even among
>home dishwashers, the powerfulness or whatever varies a good bit.
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

The Cleftstone has one of those commercial ones.  But the one at the
Hearthside, where I work, is a regular, but very good, dishwasher.  One of
my tasks is to empty the breakfast dishes from it.  They are able to get
all the dishes, cups, glasses, and silverware from breakfast for 18 people
in it.  But still it's just a regular dishwasher.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:31:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22229
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:31:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02B16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:57:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13982049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:03:21 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TD3In22081 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:03:18 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-4.panax.com [65.114.190.4])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TD3Jn12927 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:03:19 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020726173320.00b49ba8@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729090218.00a02760@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:03:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: perhaps not total relaxation, but...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020729103052.033c4a18@victoria.nb.no>

>I really would like to go and visit Bar Harbor!
>Espen

More than any other part of the US, Mount Desert Island is a lot like
Scotland.  You'd love it.  You and Clyde could go kayaking together.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:33:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22233
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:33:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017552A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 9:05:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13982166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:05:28 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f130.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.130]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TD5Sn22419 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:05:28 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 06:05:22 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 13:05:22 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 13:05:22.0945 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[99310710:01C23700]
Message-ID:  <F130LUDA1XiHY5FbEFY00000a71@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:05:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Adam at the concert
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
>Poor thing. The weather is just rotten. It is dark as night, slightly
>rainy, humidity at 90 degrees. Yesterday was only slightly better.
>Wonder how his tenting is going. Although I offered him a bed, he backed
>out.

It was really hot and sticky in Central Park yesterday for the Beth Orton
show. Particularly tough on poor *uc* who has a ruptured Achilles tendon,
and is now on crutches (but a real trooper). Surgery is scheduled for
Thursday. Falcon Ridge was out of the question. My poor guy.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:33:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22237
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:33:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02B5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 8:59:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13982210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:05:44 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TD5in22485 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:05:44 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-4.panax.com [65.114.190.4])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TD5jn13284 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:05:45 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020728225046.39E238719@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020728183728.00a038a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729090417.00a007a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:05:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: hongos Xalapas, mole poblano, oh my!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728200212.00b50ff8@mail.panax.com>

>>Are you going to publish daily menus?:)
>>Karen

Daily menus??  The fest will be one day.  It's not like we are going to
feed folk for a whole week.  Right?  Right??


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:36:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22241
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:36:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02B7F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 9:02:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13982356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:07:57 -0400
Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TD7vn22947 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:07:57 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.ab.1fad5023 (25914) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul
          2002 09:07:45 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <ab.1fad5023.2a769820@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:07:44 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/29/2002 7:54:00 AM Central Daylight Time,
bonniev@PANAX.COM writes:

<<
Thirdly, before ever applying for food stamps, they should sell
the car and use that money to feed their kids.

>>

And what do they use to travel around town and look for jobs?
Not all places have good public transportation.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:38:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22254
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:38:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02BCD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 9:04:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13982634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:10:10 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f299.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.174]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TDAAn23715 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:10:10 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 06:10:04 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 13:10:04 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 13:10:04.0869 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[413B3750:01C23701]
Message-ID:  <F299HXEjCQSolZw5Ywp00013e0f@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:10:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>bonniev said:
> > Why did you stop making them from scratch?  I've never bought a
> > refrigerated or a frozen pie crust. Blech.
>
>P-i-l-l-s-b-u-r-y.

I may still make crust from scratch when I have the time. But bonnie must
realize that having a JOB makes it kind of difficult to make pies midweek
for some of us.

The Pillsbury refrigerated crust is good. Don't knock it till you try it.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:39:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22264
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:39:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02BDD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 9:05:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13982680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:10:58 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TDAwn23858 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:10:58 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4H1Y>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:10:57 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4H1X; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:10:47 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020729103052.033c4a18@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020726173320.00b49ba8@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020729151001.0303bc58@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:10:39 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: perhaps not total relaxation, but...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729090218.00a02760@pop3.norton.antivirus>

09:03 29.07.2002 -0400 skrev bonniev:
>>I really would like to go and visit Bar Harbor!
>>Espen
>
>More than any other part of the US, Mount Desert Island is a lot like
>Scotland.  You'd love it.  You and Clyde could go kayaking together.

:-)

I can't guarantee that I will be there for July 4 in 2003 but it surely is
tempting.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:41:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22268
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:41:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02C10@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 9:07:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13982882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:13:03 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TDD3n24460 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:13:03 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-4.panax.com [65.114.190.4])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TDD4n14533 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:13:04 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729091152.00a0b2d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:12:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F299HXEjCQSolZw5Ywp00013e0f@hotmail.com>

>I may still make crust from scratch when I have the time. But bonnie must
>realize that having a JOB makes it kind of difficult to make pies midweek
>for some of us.         --Marie

That excuse may work for you but not for Karen and Doris.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:42:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22272
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:42:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02C1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 9:08:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13982933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:14:07 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TDE7n24622 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:14:07 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-4.panax.com [65.114.190.4])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TDE8n14682 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:14:08 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729091316.00a0c210@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:13:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <ab.1fad5023.2a769820@aol.com>

>And what do they use to travel around town and look for jobs?
>Not all places have good public transportation.
>Evelyn Duncan

They could buy an old clunker so that Doris would find them more worthy of
food stamps when she sees them at her local food mart.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:46:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22284
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:46:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02C94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 9:12:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13983262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:18:22 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f257.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.132]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TDILn25457 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:18:21 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 06:18:16 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 13:18:15 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 13:18:16.0235 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[661BB7B0:01C23702]
Message-ID:  <F257QtO9vXLsdAefpGt0002001c@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:18:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
>I think maybe they are better now than they used to be. I was
>surprised that Marie would use the refrigerated one, but as I said, it
>was very good.

It was my first time, and still stands as my only time, but it will
certainly not be the last time I use a refrigerated crust.

They definitely are better than they used to be.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:47:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22288
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 01:47:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02CC9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 9:13:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13983420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:19:44 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f142.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.142]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TDJin25874 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:19:44 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 06:19:38 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 13:19:38 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 13:19:38.0691 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[97418130:01C23702]
Message-ID:  <F142ZiEvm2Khi3SsBfb0001fd86@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:19:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
>>I may still make crust from scratch when I have the time. But bonnie must
>>realize that having a JOB makes it kind of difficult to make pies midweek
>>for some of us.         --Marie
>
>That excuse may work for you but not for Karen and Doris.

Yeah, well, I don't know what their problems are. ;-)

BTW, don't you eat Mac and cheese from a BOX ??!!? Blech blech blech!

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 02:02:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22310
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 02:02:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001757C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 9:34:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13984979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:34:23 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f31.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.31]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TDYNn30104 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:34:23 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 06:34:18 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 13:34:17 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 13:34:18.0099 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A36C8430:01C23704]
Message-ID:  <F31lzbWIXqi84AZF7Iy0001fbc1@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:34:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I remember seeing Jaws in the drive-in. And that Robin Williams Popeye movie
which put me right to sleep.

That might be it.

Marie


>From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Drive-In
>Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 04:39:49 +0000
>
>I went to a drive-in movie theater tonight. It was great!
>
>When was the last time you went to one, if ever?
>
>AS
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Discutez en ligne avec vos amis ! http://messenger.msn.fr




Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 02:08:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22329
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 02:08:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02F29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 9:34:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13985417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:40:06 -0400
Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TDe5n31447 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:40:05 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-006neomahp0258.dialsprint.net ([63.186.49.4]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #1) id 17ZAki-0006bq-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:40:00 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F247Mx5AONLfw9ugwdr000031b4@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4545AE.759877CB@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:40:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:

> >When was the last time you went to one, if ever?

> car to catch the breeze. It wasn't very crowded at all. Kids can play;
> adults can relax (especially after kids conk out). Next weekend is Lilo and
> Stitch. Last evening was Wind Talkers -- pleasantly violent.

I haven't been to the drive-in since I was pregnant with Lisa in 1975.
One of Lisa's friends and her family went to the drive-in this weekend.
Lisa's comment was "I didn't know they still showed movies."   Many of
the drive-ins around here have become flea markets.

We went to a regular theater to see Lilo and Stitch.  It kept Zachary
mesmerized.  Even Rachel, who will be one this coming Sunday, watched
quite a bit of it.   Cute movie... Master Carl should like it.

--
Sylvia Edwards
Litopia    http://www.edwardsly.com
Sylvie's Place    http://www.geocities.com/s.words/

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 02:08:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22336
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 02:08:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F02F42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 9:34:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13985491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:40:48 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TDemn31592 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:40:48 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust20.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.22]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004280137@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:40:48 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193315.009fdd10@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020728193829.009f9640@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <007301c23692$d0c9b3c0$360332d1@0018079268>
            <20020728200436.A21653@pobox.com>
            <000401c236a1$1f3385a0$360332d1@0018079268>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4545EC.DAD7D80C@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:41:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:
>
> Cigarettes
> Candy
> Fritos

But of course it is the fault of the store if they accept food stamps
for cigarettes (don't know about candy). You could turn the store in to
the feds if you wanted to.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 02:26:38 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22348
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 02:26:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20588
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:59:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F03126@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 9:51:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13986710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:57:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TDvcn02465 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:57:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D504A7E78; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 06:57:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729135737.D504A7E78@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 06:57:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Cat meets rabbit and other gifs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020729094850.03393448@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 29, 2002  9:54:45 am"

Espen Ore said:
> And here is one of my mother and me as we were enjoing ice cream in
> downtown Bergen:

Ohmigod! Your mother is a great grandmother!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 02:34:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22365
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 02:34:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F032E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:00:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13987457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:06:15 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TE6Fh04560 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:06:15 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust20.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.22]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005595911@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:06:11 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207282302390.36707-100000@idiom.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D454BDD.A4540F59@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:06:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sharon Ziperovich wrote:
>
> It's been at least 5 years.

Last time was in 1967. The first time was sometime before 1949. I cannot
count how many times I went. In the '60s, the archaeologist and I used
to go to the drive-in on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights. They had
double- and even triple-features in those days, so some weekends we
racked up as many as nine movies.

alyce
> >


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 02:35:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22372
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 02:35:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F03311@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:01:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13987557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:07:02 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TE71h04768 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:07:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8C4AA7C52; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 07:04:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729140448.8C4AA7C52@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:04:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D453940.4CC10916@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 29,
              2002  7:46:56 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> I don't like taking the dishes out.  Why that's more of a bother than
> taking them out of the drying rack beside the sink I'm not sure, but it
> does seem to be.

You have to bend over, and you don't for the drying rack.

> I also hate
> when I forget to open its door after the washing is finished so that the
> dishes can get somewhat dry overnight.  I usually remember, but still
> they aren't usually totally dry.  (I never used "heated drying.")

I don't use the heated drying either, but unless I interrupt the
drying cycle (which I do when I think of it), the dishes are perfectly
dry.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 02:35:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22376
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 02:35:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F03330@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:01:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13987622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:07:39 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TE7ch04869 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:07:38 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-64.panax.com
          [65.114.190.64]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6TE7dn24176 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          10:07:39 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729100617.00a0b720@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:07:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F142ZiEvm2Khi3SsBfb0001fd86@hotmail.com>

>BTW, don't you eat Mac and cheese from a BOX ??!!? Blech blech blech!
>Marie

Velvetta shells and cheese.  Yum.  But I've only eaten it once in the last
ten years or so.  That was the evening after Clyde had two teeth pulled and
was supposed to eat something soft and bland.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 02:36:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22380
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 02:36:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F03348@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:02:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13987662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:08:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TE8dh04974 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:08:39 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AABE47C73; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 07:06:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729140641.AABE47C73@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:06:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Adam at the concert
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F130LUDA1XiHY5FbEFY00000a71@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 29, 2002  9: 5:22 am"

Marie Ascher said:
> It was really hot and sticky in Central Park yesterday for the Beth Orton
> show. Particularly tough on poor *uc* who has a ruptured Achilles tendon,
> and is now on crutches (but a real trooper). Surgery is scheduled for
> Thursday. Falcon Ridge was out of the question. My poor guy.

Ugh! I bruised my a. tendon once, and that was quite enough. My
sympathies to *uc*.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 02:37:40 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22384
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 02:37:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00175AF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:09:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13987763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:09:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TE9Xh05195 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:09:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 619447C99; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 07:07:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729140716.619447C99@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:07:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hongos Xalapas, mole poblano, oh my!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729090417.00a007a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 29, 2002  9: 5:30 am"

bonniev said:
> >>Are you going to publish daily menus?:)
> >>Karen
>
> Daily menus??  The fest will be one day.  It's not like we are going to
> feed folk for a whole week.  Right?  Right??

My question was not fest related.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 02:38:31 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22393
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 02:38:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20658
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:10:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F03374@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:03:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13987771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:09:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TE9ch05234 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:09:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 326F4877C; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 07:09:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729140901.326F4877C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:09:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729091152.00a0b2d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 29, 2002  9:12:48 am"

bonniev said:
> >I may still make crust from scratch when I have the time. But bonnie must
> >realize that having a JOB makes it kind of difficult to make pies midweek
> >for some of us.         --Marie
>
> That excuse may work for you but not for Karen and Doris.

Bonnie, fuck off. I can make spaghetti sauce from a jar if I want.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 02:49:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22409
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 02:49:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F034E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:15:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13988619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:21:04 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TEL3h07286 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:21:03 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-240.panax.com
          [63.163.41.240]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6TEL4n26651 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          10:21:05 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020729090417.00a007a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729102028.00a0d950@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:20:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: hongos Xalapas, mole poblano, oh my!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729140716.619447C99@yellow.rahul.net>

>My question was not fest related.
>Karen

Ah, what then would you like daily menus posted for, from?


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 02:50:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22416
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 02:50:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0350F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:16:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13988746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:22:11 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TEMAh07543 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:22:10 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-240.panax.com
          [63.163.41.240]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6TEMBn26837 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          10:22:11 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020729091152.00a0b2d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729102112.00a072c0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:21:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729140901.326F4877C@yellow.rahul.net>

  >I can make spaghetti sauce from a jar if I want.     --Karen

How do you "make" spaghetti sauce from a jar?  All you have to do is spoon
it out.

    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 02:50:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22420
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 02:50:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00175C64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:22:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13988830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:22:46 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TEMkh07698 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:22:46 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust20.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.22]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004280962@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:22:38 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020729023609.2D79281F6@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729085131.009fa030@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D454FB4.778CCC@valstar.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:22:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>  Thirdly, before ever applying for food stamps, they should sell
> the car and use that money to feed their kids.

Yes, and then if they happened to be lucky enough to find a job (without
having a car in which to get around to interviews), they could hitchhike
to work.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 02:51:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22424
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 02:51:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F03554@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:17:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13988988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:23:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TENOh07969 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:23:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4F6E87CD8; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 07:23:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729142323.4F6E87CD8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:23:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hongos Xalapas, mole poblano, oh my!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729102028.00a0d950@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 29, 2002 10:20:49 am"

bonniev said:
> >My question was not fest related.
> >Karen
>
> Ah, what then would you like daily menus posted for, from?

Life.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 02:52:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22428
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 02:52:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00175CB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:24:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13989113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:24:27 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TEORh08211 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:24:27 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6TEOOd00999 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          09:24:24 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729091152.00a0b2d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <009201c2370b$e0624620$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:21:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >I may still make crust from scratch when I have the time. But bonnie
must
> >realize that having a JOB makes it kind of difficult to make pies
midweek
> >for some of us.         --Marie
>
> That excuse may work for you but not for Karen and Doris.
>
>
>     --bonniev

I have a better one.  I'm old.

            - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 02:53:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22432
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 02:53:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F03592@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:19:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13989175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:25:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TEPEh08369 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:25:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 28B307CE3; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 07:25:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729142514.28B307CE3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:25:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729102112.00a072c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 29, 2002 10:21:56 am"

bonniev said:
>   >I can make spaghetti sauce from a jar if I want.     --Karen
>
> How do you "make" spaghetti sauce from a jar?  All you have to do is spoon
> it out.

I hope you never have to find out, Bonnie.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 02:58:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22440
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 02:58:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F03639@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:24:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13989758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:30:00 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TETxh09739 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:30:00 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6TETwd06391 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          09:29:58 -0500 (CDT)
References: <20020729023609.2D79281F6@yellow.rahul.net>            
            <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net> 
            <OE197MaMK4vl3brNHhm00002211@hotmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <00b401c2370c$a71b13a0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:31:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Let's say that a family of four has a mother who stays at home, and a
father
> who has a factory job where he earns a good living. They might be able
to
> buy a new car every so often. Not an unreasonable aspiration in
America.
> Then, let's say that factory job gets exported to Mexico and all the
> American workers lose their jobs. After the proper amount of time,
that
> family would qualify for food stamps. Doris, what are they supposed to
> do--sell their new car in shame, so that they can be seen driving to
the
> supermarket in an old rusty wagon?
>
> -aht

I can see that could happen.

           - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:05:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22479
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:05:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00175E31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:37:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13990465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:37:13 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TEbCh11548 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:37:12 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6TEhjM24421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:43:45
          +0200
References: <20020729023609.2D79281F6@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729085131.009fa030@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D454FB4.778CCC@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729164345.A24355@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:43:45 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D454FB4.778CCC@valstar.net>; from alybooks@VALSTAR.NET on Mon,
              Jul 29, 2002 at 10:22:44AM -0400

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 10:22:44AM -0400, alyce cresap wrote:
= bonniev wrote:
= >  Thirdly, before ever applying for food stamps, they should sell
= > the car and use that money to feed their kids.
=
= Yes, and then if they happened to be lucky enough to find a job (without
= having a car in which to get around to interviews), they could hitchhike
= to work.
=
= alyce

How about if they just sell the kids?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:08:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22492
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:08:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0377A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:34:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13990698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:40:24 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TEeNh12109 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:40:23 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6TEkvA24430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:46:57
          +0200
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020729091152.00a0b2d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020729140901.326F4877C@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729164657.B24355@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:46:57 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729140901.326F4877C@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 07:09:01AM -0700

= > That excuse may work for you but not for Karen and Doris.
=
= Bonnie, fuck off. I can make spaghetti sauce from a jar if I want.
=
= Karen

No, you have to sell every possesion you own before you can apply
for your unemployment insurance.  And you can't buy spaghetti
sauce in a jar - that's expensive!

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:12:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23538
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:11:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F037D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:37:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13991022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:43:51 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f297.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.172]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TEhoh12945 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:43:50 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 07:43:45 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 14:43:45 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 14:43:45.0353 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[574D0390:01C2370E]
Message-ID:  <F297NLqY54z3r5vzfHs0001d916@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:43:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
>>BTW, don't you eat Mac and cheese from a BOX ??!!? Blech blech blech!
>
>Velvetta shells and cheese.  Yum.

Velveeta. Truth is I like it too, although I can't imagine how many WW
points a serving would be!

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:12:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23542
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:12:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F037EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:38:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13991094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:44:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TEiJh13123 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:44:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2A06A7CC8; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 07:44:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729144419.2A06A7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:44:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 29,
              2002  6:58:53 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> As for food choices, though, I think it's probably documented
> in sociological studies that there's some correlation between low income
> and bad nutrition, whether from lack of knowledge of good nutrition or
> other reasons.

Sometimes it seems that only bad food choices are on sale.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:16:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23555
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:16:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0383E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:42:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13991369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:48:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TEmEh13813 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:48:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 35D6D7C59; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 07:48:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729144813.35D6D7C59@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:48:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729164657.B24355@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              29, 2002  4:46:57 pm"

steph said:
> = > That excuse may work for you but not for Karen and Doris.
> =
> = Bonnie, fuck off. I can make spaghetti sauce from a jar if I want.
> =
> = Karen
>
> No, you have to sell every possesion you own before you can apply
> for your unemployment insurance.  And you can't buy spaghetti
> sauce in a jar - that's expensive!

<rolling of eyes>

I wouldn't trade my homemade sauce for anything. I recently found a
recipe for a tomato sauce with lots of vegetables, and I've been
eating that. (I know, I know, it's obvious... It just never occurred
to me.) It caught my eye because of the eggplant. The recipe calls
for too much pepper and no mushrooms, but I amended it.

I'm grateful to Fernando for giving me someone else to cook for/with.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:17:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23559
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:17:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00175F56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:48:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13991424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 10:48:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TEmvh13905 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:48:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 62CDA7CC8; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 07:48:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729144856.62CDA7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:48:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F297NLqY54z3r5vzfHs0001d916@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 29, 2002 10:43:45 am"

Marie Ascher said:
> Velveeta. Truth is I like it too, although I can't imagine how many WW
> points a serving would be!

2 kazillion. The amount of fat is incredible.

Karen
listening to Andean music

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:32:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23941
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:32:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00176129@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:04:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13992833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 11:04:46 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TF4jh17737 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:04:45 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-34.panax.com [63.163.41.34])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TF4kn01956 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:04:46 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729110402.00a00b80@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:04:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F297NLqY54z3r5vzfHs0001d916@hotmail.com>

>Velveeta. Truth is I like it too, although I can't imagine how many WW
>points a serving would be!      --Marie

How is the WW thing going?  Lose the 10 pounds already?


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:42:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23957
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:42:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001761F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:14:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13993367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 11:14:41 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f262.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.137]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TFEeh19405 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:14:40 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 08:14:35 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 15:14:34 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 15:14:35.0321 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[A5F7BA90:01C23712]
Message-ID:  <F262nv1a3hzbP1R3o0M0001fe03@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:14:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
>How is the WW thing going?  Lose the 10 pounds already?

I am so bad on the weekends, although my good midweek behavior seems to be
slowly but surely paying off. People have commented that I look good. I
think the swimming and the light lunches have been valuable, as has the
recording of everything in a journal, even when I go way over my point
allotment. Mondays are bad days on the scale but overall my weight is going
down. Not 10 pounds yet though, on average, although I my low is now more
than 10 pounds lighter than my worst high ever. I still have yet to break
below a very significant barrier.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:42:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23955
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:42:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F03AA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:08:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13993364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 11:14:41 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TFEeh19402 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:14:40 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6TFLDI24567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:21:13
          +0200
References: <F297NLqY54z3r5vzfHs0001d916@hotmail.com>
            <20020729144856.62CDA7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729172113.A24532@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:21:13 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729144856.62CDA7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 07:48:56AM -0700

=
= Karen
= listening to Andean music

We have about a bazillion (well ok, maybe 10) cd's of music from
the Andes.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:44:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23968
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:44:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00176229@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:16:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13993472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 11:16:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TFGUh19740 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:16:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 14A108131; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:16:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729151629.14A108131@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:16:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729172113.A24532@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              29, 2002  5:21:13 pm"

steph said:
> = Karen
> = listening to Andean music
>
> We have about a bazillion (well ok, maybe 10) cd's of music from
> the Andes.

Fernando lent me this--it's a group called Pachamama.

Fernando is the only one who will willingly listen to my aboriginal
music.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:46:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23977
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:46:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F03AEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:12:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13993617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 11:18:29 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TFITh20185 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:18:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CF7CC7CFF; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:18:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729151828.CF7CC7CFF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:18:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729151629.14A108131@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at
              "Jul 29, 2002  8:16:28 am"

Karen Kay said:
> steph said:
> > = Karen
> > = listening to Andean music
> >
> > We have about a bazillion (well ok, maybe 10) cd's of music from
> > the Andes.
>
> Fernando lent me this--it's a group called Pachamama.
>
> Fernando is the only one who will willingly listen to my aboriginal
> music.

Which reminds me, switching continents again--do you like Oliver
Mtukudzi? He is a recent discovery of mine, and I think he has a great
voice.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:49:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23981
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:49:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F03B0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:15:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13993709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 11:21:27 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TFLQh20635 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:21:26 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6TFS0024589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:28:00
          +0200
References: <20020729164657.B24355@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020729144813.35D6D7C59@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729172759.B24532@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:27:59 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729144813.35D6D7C59@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 07:48:13AM -0700

= > No, you have to sell every possesion you own before you can apply
= > for your unemployment insurance.  And you can't buy spaghetti
= > sauce in a jar - that's expensive!
=
= <rolling of eyes>
=

Are you taking this seriously.  Please stop.

= I wouldn't trade my homemade sauce for anything. I recently found a
= recipe for a tomato sauce with lots of vegetables, and I've been
= eating that. (I know, I know, it's obvious... It just never occurred
= to me.) It caught my eye because of the eggplant. The recipe calls
= for too much pepper and no mushrooms, but I amended it.
=

I've got one of those.  I don't like it much.  Usually we keep it
extremely simple though, just tomatoes and some spices.

Dinner tonight is the greek, no bulgarian, no <fill in name> bean
and potato dish.  Hmmm.  Time to go home soon.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:52:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23988
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:52:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001762E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:24:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13993859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 11:24:10 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TFO5h20992 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:24:06 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F3DB97CFF; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:24:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729152404.F3DB97CFF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:24:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729172759.B24532@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              29, 2002  5:27:59 pm"

steph said:
> = > No, you have to sell every possesion you own before you can apply
> = > for your unemployment insurance.  And you can't buy spaghetti
> = > sauce in a jar - that's expensive!
> =
> = <rolling of eyes>
> =
>
> Are you taking this seriously.  Please stop.

Nope, I wasn't.

> = I wouldn't trade my homemade sauce for anything. I recently found a
> = recipe for a tomato sauce with lots of vegetables, and I've been
> = eating that. (I know, I know, it's obvious... It just never occurred
> = to me.) It caught my eye because of the eggplant. The recipe calls
> = for too much pepper and no mushrooms, but I amended it.
> =
>
> I've got one of those.  I don't like it much.  Usually we keep it
> extremely simple though, just tomatoes and some spices.

Why don't you like it?

I think one of the tricks is not to use too many veg. You don't want a
stew after all. I fed it to Fernando, and he liked it.

> Dinner tonight is the greek, no bulgarian, no <fill in name> bean
> and potato dish.  Hmmm.  Time to go home soon.

Bean and potatoes? Tell me more, tell me more

Karen
who likes to eat

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:53:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23995
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:53:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F03BFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:19:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13994449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 11:25:14 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TFPDh21578 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:25:13 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6TFVle24610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:31:47
          +0200
References: <20020729172113.A24532@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020729151629.14A108131@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729173147.C24532@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:31:47 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729151629.14A108131@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 08:16:28AM -0700

= > We have about a bazillion (well ok, maybe 10) cd's of music from
= > the Andes.
=
= Fernando lent me this--it's a group called Pachamama.
=

They're like, yugoslavian!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:54:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23999
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:54:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F03C57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:20:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13994763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 11:25:52 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TFPqh21899 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:25:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 285BD7CFF; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:25:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729152551.285BD7CFF@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:25:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729152404.F3DB97CFF@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at
              "Jul 29, 2002  8:24: 4 am"

Karen Kay said:
> Karen
> who likes to eat

I knew this was going to happen. Once I finished obsessing over my
yard (and now everything's going dormant, so that's done, except for
ordering fall seeds), I knew cooking was next.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:55:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA24003
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:55:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F03C73@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:21:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13994850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 11:27:31 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TFRUh22131 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:27:30 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6TFY4X24623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:34:04
          +0200
References: <20020729172759.B24532@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020729152404.F3DB97CFF@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729173404.D24532@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:34:04 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729152404.F3DB97CFF@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 08:24:04AM -0700

= > I've got one of those.  I don't like it much.  Usually we keep it
= > extremely simple though, just tomatoes and some spices.
=
= Why don't you like it?
=

I don't remember.  I made it once and never again.

= I think one of the tricks is not to use too many veg. You don't want a
= stew after all. I fed it to Fernando, and he liked it.
=

That was probably it.  Too many different veg. I'll see if I can
find it, then probably it will jump out at me why I didn't like
it.

= > Dinner tonight is the greek, no bulgarian, no <fill in name> bean
= > and potato dish.  Hmmm.  Time to go home soon.
=
= Bean and potatoes? Tell me more, tell me more
=

When I get home I'll post the recipe.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:55:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA24007
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:55:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F03C79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:21:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13994867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 11:27:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TFRnh22165 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:27:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BB08A7CBE; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:26:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729152636.BB08A7CBE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:26:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729173147.C24532@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              29, 2002  5:31:47 pm"

steph said:
> = > We have about a bazillion (well ok, maybe 10) cd's of music from
> = > the Andes.
> =
> = Fernando lent me this--it's a group called Pachamama.
> =
>
> They're like, yugoslavian!

I know that--but I didn't know it when I first listened to them, so I
got hooked.

I don't know why they are Yugoslavian, but they are good.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 03:57:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA24011
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 03:57:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F03CAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:23:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13995023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 11:29:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TFTKh22471 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:29:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A3ED9877B; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 08:28:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729152822.A3ED9877B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:28:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729173404.D24532@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              29, 2002  5:34: 4 pm"

steph said:
> When I get home I'll post the recipe.

I love you, man.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 04:49:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA24091
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 04:49:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F04314@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:15:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13999224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 12:21:24 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f27.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.27]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TGLNk31257 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:21:23 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 09:21:18 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 16:21:17 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 16:21:18.0268 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[F7E8F7C0:01C2371B]
Message-ID:  <F27RVwKB99hwduqa5fI0002027f@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:21:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
> > That's even better! I can definitely see him as Fernando.
> >
>I guessed Fernando two weeks ago. I said, "Fernando, Geraldo?" and you
>said not.

She got nervous when either aht or I got it right!

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 04:50:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA24098
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 04:50:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001768A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:22:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13999283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 12:22:17 -0400
Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6TGMGk31397 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          12:22:16 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6TGMFQ85922 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          12:22:16 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEMNFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:20:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sunday Movie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729084614.009f9a00@pop3.norton.antivirus>

I'm also a huge Irving fan. Saw him speak live at the Herbst in SF back when
Prayer for Owen Meany first came out. Got a copy of the first, signed. I
adore that book. I think I have nearly all his books. He's a true daddy.

Sandra

> Yes, I'm absolutely positive.  I clearly remember being stunned in the
> theatre when that happened.  But then I thought, "of course, that's
> consistent with the book".  I was a huge John Irving fan.  Still am.  I
> went back and read everything he had written before Garp and have
> read most
> of what he has written since.  I was saddened when he got a
> divorce because
> only a man who loved his children greatly could write the way he
> did.  Quite a number of his books mention a father sneaking into his
> child's bedroom at night and just watching the child breathe.
>
>
>     --bonniev
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 04:50:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA24102
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 04:50:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F04338@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:16:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13999346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 12:22:49 -0400
Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6TGMmk31487 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          12:22:49 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6TGMmQ77726 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          12:22:48 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEMOFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:21:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: hongos Xalapas, mole poblano, oh my!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729090417.00a007a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

That is not my understanding.

Sandra

> >>Are you going to publish daily menus?:)
> >>Karen
>
> Daily menus??  The fest will be one day.  It's not like we are going to
> feed folk for a whole week.  Right?  Right??
>
>
>     --bonniev
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 04:53:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA24106
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 04:53:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F04369@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:19:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 13999504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 12:25:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TGPRk31810 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:25:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 914F77C9A; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 09:25:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729162526.914F77C9A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:25:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F27RVwKB99hwduqa5fI0002027f@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 29, 2002 12:21:17 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> >From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
> > > That's even better! I can definitely see him as Fernando.
> > >
> >I guessed Fernando two weeks ago. I said, "Fernando, Geraldo?" and you
> >said not.
>
> She got nervous when either aht or I got it right!

Phhhbt! No, but you guys seemed to require a name, and Fernando fits.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 05:38:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA24175
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 05:38:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00176D12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:10:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14001999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 13:10:28 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TH0Sk04656 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:00:28 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6TH0RK3027637 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:00:27 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207291300120.28657-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:00:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729164345.A24355@yoccoz.multinix.com>

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, steph wrote:

>How about if they just sell the kids?

Yes, Jonathan!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 06:11:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24206
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 06:11:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F04B3F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:37:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14005316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 13:43:45 -0400
Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6THhik11051 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          13:43:44 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6THhiQ232778 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul
          2002 13:43:44 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKENBFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:42:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      New word for the day: Desuetude
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

desuetude

n : a state of inactivity or disuse

(from the On Writing article in today's NYTimes.com)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 06:17:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24221
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 06:17:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F04B96@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:43:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14005523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 13:49:17 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6THnGk11560 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:49:16 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6THto424802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:55:50
          +0200
References: <20020729173404.D24532@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020729152822.A3ED9877B@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729195550.A24772@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:55:50 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729152822.A3ED9877B@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 08:28:22AM -0700

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 08:28:22AM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
= steph said:
= > When I get home I'll post the recipe.
=
= I love you, man.:)

I have conferred with the chef.

1 clove of garlic
1 onion
1/2 kilo potatoes (boiling or general use, but not baking)
1/2 kilo green beans or runner beans (anyway, snijbonen in dutch,
they're flat)
1 small can of tomatoes (what is it, 8 oz?)
2-4 tablespoons olive oil
1 tomato can of water
salt and pepper to taste

grate the onion and garlic

cut the beans and potatoes into pieces that fit into your mouth

brown the onion and garlic in the oil in a 3 quart pot

toss in the potatoes and beans

cover with the tomatoes and the water, and simmer covered over low heat

cook until the potatoes are not quite done and serve luke warm -
the potatoes will continue cooking after you turn the heat off
or
cook until the potatoes are done and serve hot (we almost never
do this)



potatoes: bintjes, nicola, yukon gold, new potatoes etc.  Don't
skimp.  Go for good potatoes!

you can be lazy and toss everything into the pot at the beginning

you may find that the beans need some extra cooking at the
beginning before you put in the potatoes depending how you've cut
things - you won't know this until you get a feel for the recipe

2 tbsp of oil is ok, if you want to cut it light
4 is nicer

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 06:45:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24270
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 06:45:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F04FDC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:11:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14007767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 14:17:41 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TIHfk16598 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:17:41 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-115.panax.com
          [65.114.190.115]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6TIHfn07563 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          14:17:42 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729140923.00b653a0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:16:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729144419.2A06A7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>

At 07:44 AM 7/29/2002 -0700, karen wrote:

>Sometimes it seems that only bad food choices are on sale.

I maintain that it costs no more to have "good" food rather than all of the
processed, packaged, <convenience> stuff---probably less.  Despite the
propaganda put out by the organic/health foods types, one can obtain decent
fresh produce and other items at the local supermarket.  It does, however,
require reasonable reading comprehension, a cookbook or two, and the desire
to do it.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 06:45:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24274
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 06:45:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F04FDD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:11:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14007770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 14:17:42 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TIHgk16603 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:17:42 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-115.panax.com
          [65.114.190.115]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6TIHhn07572 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          14:17:43 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D454FB4.778CCC@valstar.net>
            <20020729023609.2D79281F6@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729085131.009fa030@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D454FB4.778CCC@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729141640.00b5ee88@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:17:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729164345.A24355@yoccoz.multinix.com>

At 04:43 PM 7/29/2002 +0200, steph wrote:

>How about if they just sell the kids?

Might work--providing they didn't have to report the profits to IRS.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 07:11:12 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24302
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 07:11:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00177684@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:42:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14009654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 14:42:59 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TIgxk21244 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:42:59 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6TInXC24886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:49:33
          +0200
References: <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
            <20020729144419.2A06A7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729140923.00b653a0@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729204933.A24883@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:49:33 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729140923.00b653a0@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 02:16:13PM -0400

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 02:16:13PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
= At 07:44 AM 7/29/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
=
= >Sometimes it seems that only bad food choices are on sale.
=
= I maintain that it costs no more to have "good" food rather than all of the
= processed, packaged, <convenience> stuff---probably less.  Despite the
= propaganda put out by the organic/health foods types, one can obtain decent
= fresh produce and other items at the local supermarket.  It does, however,
= require reasonable reading comprehension, a cookbook or two, and the desire
= to do it.
=
= cwv

Yabbut.  I have to buy stuff that's on sale because it's cheaper!
Since the veggies have a market price, they're only on sale when
they're nearly rotten, but at least one kind of cookie is on sale
or has a coupon every week, so I have to buy that!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 07:17:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24315
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 07:17:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017771C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:49:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14009899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 14:49:42 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TIngk21904 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:49:42 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H00003A7XMT10@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:49:42 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
            <20020729144419.2A06A7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729140923.00b653a0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020729204933.A24883@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Message-ID:  <3D458DE4.4030705@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:48:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 02:16:13PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> = At 07:44 AM 7/29/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
> =
> = >Sometimes it seems that only bad food choices are on sale.
> =
> = I maintain that it costs no more to have "good" food rather than all of the
> = processed, packaged, <convenience> stuff---probably less.  Despite the
> = propaganda put out by the organic/health foods types, one can obtain decent
> = fresh produce and other items at the local supermarket.  It does, however,
> = require reasonable reading comprehension, a cookbook or two, and the desire
> = to do it.
> =
> = cwv
>
> Yabbut.  I have to buy stuff that's on sale because it's cheaper!
> Since the veggies have a market price, they're only on sale when
> they're nearly rotten, but at least one kind of cookie is on sale
> or has a coupon every week, so I have to buy that!


        Plus, one of the reasons I'm poor is that I have poor impulse
control, and cookies and fritos taste better than broccoli.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 07:20:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24326
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 07:20:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00177751@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:52:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14010064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 14:52:01 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TIq1k22252 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:52:01 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H00003MKXQO10@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:52:01 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
            <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net>
            <20020729112538.B23549@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Message-ID:  <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:50:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:


> There wouldn't be much fun to it if I didn't.  He likes to poke
> so hard at what everyone else does.  What's the last thing he
> cooked, don't you wonder?  Perhaps he's got bachelor techy down
> to an art: pizza, happy hour food and soup from a can?  I grew
> out of that for all the time, but we still do it a lot (well,
> there's not much in the way of happy hour food here, but the
> pizza and ramen are still quite frequent).
>

        Oh, who knows... maybe he doesn't cook at all.  Just eats out
all the time spending his illgotten H1B carelessly.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 07:23:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24330
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 07:23:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0537B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:49:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14009736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 14:55:40 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TIjek21489 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:45:40 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0378A686D for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:45:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6TIjdC12612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:45:39
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020729023609.2D79281F6@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
            <OE197MaMK4vl3brNHhm00002211@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729134539.A5978@pobox.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:45:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE197MaMK4vl3brNHhm00002211@hotmail.com>; from
              toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 07:07:40AM -0500

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 07:07:40AM -0500, Anne H Toal wrote:
> Let's say that a family of four has a mother who stays at home, and a father
> who has a factory job where he earns a good living. They might be able to
> buy a new car every so often. Not an unreasonable aspiration in America.
> Then, let's say that factory job gets exported to Mexico and all the
> American workers lose their jobs. After the proper amount of time, that
> family would qualify for food stamps. Doris, what are they supposed to
> do--sell their new car in shame, so that they can be seen driving to the
> supermarket in an old rusty wagon?

Let's first hear three names.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 07:24:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24337
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 07:24:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F05386@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:50:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14010274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 14:56:00 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TIu0k22818 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:56:00 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6TItwsS411197 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          14:55:59 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000401c23731$9428eb30$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:55:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rita Chapman
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 2:50 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Itch Report
>
>
> steph wrote:
>
>
> > There wouldn't be much fun to it if I didn't.  He likes to poke
> > so hard at what everyone else does.  What's the last thing he
> > cooked, don't you wonder?  Perhaps he's got bachelor techy down
> > to an art: pizza, happy hour food and soup from a can?  I grew
> > out of that for all the time, but we still do it a lot (well,
> > there's not much in the way of happy hour food here, but the
> > pizza and ramen are still quite frequent).
> >
>
>         Oh, who knows... maybe he doesn't cook at all.  Just eats out
> all the time spending his illgotten H1B carelessly.
>
>
Or maybe he makes a yummy Chicken Tikka Masala.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 07:27:57 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24341
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 07:27:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017781F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:59:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14009902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 14:59:44 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TInik21909 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:49:44 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6TIniK3010471 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:49:44 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207291449140.29546-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:49:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729204933.A24883@yoccoz.multinix.com>

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, steph wrote:

>Yabbut.  I have to buy stuff that's on sale because it's cheaper!
>Since the veggies have a market price, they're only on sale when
>they're nearly rotten, but at least one kind of cookie is on sale
>or has a coupon every week, so I have to buy that!

Poor baby!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 07:30:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24357
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 07:30:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0541E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:56:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14010085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 15:02:24 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TIqOk22288 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:52:24 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C440E6A02 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:52:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6TIqNr15106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:52:23
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net> <20020728171332.A29163@pobox.com>
            <3D449857.3050906@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729135223.B5978@pobox.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:52:23 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D449857.3050906@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Sun,
              Jul 28, 2002 at 08:20:23PM -0500

On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 08:20:23PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
>Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.

Chapman,

There is no hate in this heart.

As for the beautiful part--I have no data yet. Are you cute?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 07:32:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24361
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 07:32:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F05451@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:58:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14010172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 15:04:30 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TIsUk22562 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:54:30 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6TIsUK3012346 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:54:30 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207291450310.29546-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:54:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      is Natalie here?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

A transformation is taking place outside my windows on the 11th floor of
McClung Tower. The "new' (10 years ago) UT library used to be across the
street. The library has not been moved - but the street has. In fact, it
no longer exists. It was removed, piece by piece, and is sitting around in
piles on the dirt or on the grass. The old "street" (blocked from use for
years) is being converted into a grassy area. Should be pretty if the
bulldozers and other equipment ever finish and leave. Right now, it's loud
and dirty and dusty.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 07:38:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24365
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 07:38:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017793B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:10:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14010600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 15:10:25 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TJ0Pk23615 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:00:25 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E90F69EA for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:00:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6TJ0Ag17646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:00:10
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
            <20020729144419.2A06A7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729140923.00b653a0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020729204933.A24883@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D458DE4.4030705@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729140010.C5978@pobox.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:00:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D458DE4.4030705@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Mon,
              Jul 29, 2002 at 01:48:04PM -0500

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 01:48:04PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
> > Yabbut.  I have to buy stuff that's on sale because it's cheaper!
> > Since the veggies have a market price, they're only on sale when
> > they're nearly rotten, but at least one kind of cookie is on sale
> > or has a coupon every week, so I have to buy that!
>
>
>         Plus, one of the reasons I'm poor is that I have poor impulse
> control, and cookies and fritos taste better than broccoli.

This is an outrage. Why do you even have a child.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 07:41:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24378
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 07:41:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0550D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:07:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14011528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 15:13:03 -0400
Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TJD3k07197 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:13:03 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.a1.2b0819a1 (4004) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          15:12:51 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <a1.2b0819a1.2a76edb3@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:12:51 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: is Natalie here?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/29/2002 2:04:33 PM Central Daylight Time,
dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes:

<<
A transformation is taking place outside my windows on the 11th floor of
McClung Tower. The "new' (10 years ago) UT library used to be across the
street. The library has not been moved - but the street has.
>>

I remember when that happened at Akron U.  They turned one one-way
street into a bricklined park (the street between the student center and
the library) and the other one-way street into a two-way street (the street
between the student center and the tennis courts).

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 07:41:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24385
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 07:41:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F05514@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:07:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14011556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 15:13:37 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TJDak07265 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:13:37 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc57 ([204.127.198.46]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020729191331.JXHG22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:13:31 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc57; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:13:29 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020729191331.JXHG22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:13:29 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Velveeta. Truth is I like it too, although I can't
imagine >how many WW points a serving would be!
>Marie

I like Annie's myself. As far as points, I think a
serving is around 8-10 points depending on how it's made.
A serving is probably a 1/2 cup so it's definitely not
worth it... not to me anyway.

lisa
> >From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
> >>BTW, don't you eat Mac and cheese from a BOX ??!!? Blech blech blech!
> >
> >Velvetta shells and cheese.  Yum.
>
> Velveeta. Truth is I like it too, although I can't imagine how many WW
> points a serving would be!
>
> Marie
>    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 08:09:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24417
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 08:09:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F057FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:35:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14013740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 15:41:43 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TJfgk11711 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:41:42 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0100J8E01I1S@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:41:42 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
            <20020729144419.2A06A7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729140923.00b653a0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020729204933.A24883@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D458DE4.4030705@swbell.net> <20020729140010.C5978@pobox.com>
Message-ID:  <3D459A14.5000503@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:40:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 01:48:04PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>>>Yabbut.  I have to buy stuff that's on sale because it's cheaper!
>>>Since the veggies have a market price, they're only on sale when
>>>they're nearly rotten, but at least one kind of cookie is on sale
>>>or has a coupon every week, so I have to buy that!
>>>
>>
>>        Plus, one of the reasons I'm poor is that I have poor impulse
>>control, and cookies and fritos taste better than broccoli.
>>
>
> This is an outrage. Why do you even have a child.
>
>


        Same reason most people have children.  Should I sell her,
you think?



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 08:11:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24424
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 08:11:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F05816@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:37:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14013022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 15:42:53 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f171.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.171]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TJWrk10152 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:32:53 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 12:32:47 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 19:32:47 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 19:32:47.0835 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[B839C2B0:01C23736]
Message-ID:  <F1710Ja8v9lZfkI1ylz00017e45@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:32:47 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>steph wrote:

> > There wouldn't be much fun to it if I didn't.  He likes to poke
> > so hard at what everyone else does.  What's the last thing he
> > cooked, don't you wonder?  Perhaps he's got bachelor techy down
> > to an art: pizza, happy hour food and soup from a can?  I grew
> > out of that for all the time, but we still do it a lot (well,
> > there's not much in the way of happy hour food here, but the
> > pizza and ramen are still quite frequent).
>
>         Oh, who knows... maybe he doesn't cook at all.  Just eats out
>all the time spending his illgotten H1B carelessly.

That's my guess - he usually eats with the Pakistani cabbies
(fellow H1B scabs nodoubt). For a treat (or a change) it's Thai
or Ethiopian down the street.

(Right, Tushar?)

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 08:16:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24481
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 08:16:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00177D70@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:48:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14013602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 15:48:40 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TJcek11268 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:38:40 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6TJcdK3030133;
          Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:38:39 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207291530060.29546-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:38:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Stave Puzzles (wooden ones)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

A friend says:

>This company makes the RollsRoyce of jigsaw puzzles. They are out of my
price range, but fascinating to see. Absolutely do not miss the online
puzzles---click on "Play with Stave". In the "About Us" department there are
several interesting articles, the Smithsonian one being the most
comprehensive. According to the NY Times article Barbara Bush and her
grandchildren are big fans of Stave puzzles.<

http://www.stave.com/


Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 08:23:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24494
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 08:23:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F05981@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:49:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14014767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 15:55:42 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TJtgk13992 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:55:42 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-161.panax.com
          [63.163.41.161]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6TJtfn28778 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          15:55:42 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
            <20020729144419.2A06A7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729140923.00b653a0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020729204933.A24883@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D458DE4.4030705@swbell.net> <20020729140010.C5978@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729155441.00a113c0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:55:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D459A14.5000503@swbell.net>

>        Same reason most people have children.  Should I sell her,
>you think?       --Rita Rouvalis Chapman

No, don't sell her.  But do tell us what is the reason most people have
children?  I've never figured that out.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 08:25:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24501
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 08:25:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F059B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:51:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14014929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 15:56:55 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TJutk14320 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:56:55 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-161.panax.com
          [63.163.41.161]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6TJuun28950 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          15:56:56 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729155548.00a157e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:56:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F1710Ja8v9lZfkI1ylz00017e45@hotmail.com>

Hey, Rashmi.  Did you read the book?  Did you lug it through all the
airports?  Do you like it?  Did you finish it?  Do you understand Doris a
little better?


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 08:26:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24505
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 08:26:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00177E57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:57:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14015017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 15:57:53 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TJvqk14542 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:57:52 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc58 ([204.127.198.47]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020729195747.MKXN22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:57:47 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc58; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:57:46 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020729195747.MKXN22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:57:46 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The last time I went was probably close to 10 years ago.
The drive in is still there in Ct.

I can't for the life of me remember the movie we went to
see.

What I do remember is we went in a beater car that didn't
have an FM radio. That meant we had to park in the back
at one of the few remaining speaker stations. We also
snuck someone in, just because we could, not because we
couldn't afford the $5.

There are a few drive ins here in Mass but they're far
enough away that I forget about them.

lisa
> I went to a drive-in movie theater tonight. It was great!
>
> When was the last time you went to one, if ever?
>
> AS
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Discutez en ligne avec vos amis ! http://messenger.msn.fr

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 08:32:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24518
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 08:32:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F05A95@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:58:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14015529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 16:04:35 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TK4Zk15581 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:04:35 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0100IWO13MZL@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:04:34 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
            <20020729144419.2A06A7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729140923.00b653a0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020729204933.A24883@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D458DE4.4030705@swbell.net> <20020729140010.C5978@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729155441.00a113c0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID:  <3D459F71.1070605@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:02:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

>>        Same reason most people have children.  Should I sell her,
>> you think?       --Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>
>
> No, don't sell her.  But do tell us what is the reason most people have
> children?  I've never figured that out.
>


        Good heavens, Bonnie.  I had no idea you were still chaste.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 08:33:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24525
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 08:33:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00177F27@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:05:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14015594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 16:05:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TK5Ek15673 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:05:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9C3247D47; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 13:04:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729200451.9C3247D47@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:04:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: New word for the day: Desuetude
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKENBFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 29, 2002 10:42:26 am"

S Hess said:
> desuetude
>
> n : a state of inactivity or disuse
>
> (from the On Writing article in today's NYTimes.com)

How DO you pronounce this?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 08:33:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24529
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 08:33:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F05ACA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:59:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14014770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 16:05:43 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f60.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.60]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TJthk13996 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:55:43 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 12:55:37 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 19:55:37 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 19:55:37.0802 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[E8CA22A0:01C23739]
Message-ID:  <F60At1Q2xg4sQplIBWA00017131@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:55:37 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

clyde w. voigtlander wrote:

>I maintain that it costs no more to have "good" food rather than all of the
>processed, packaged, <convenience> stuff---probably less.  Despite the
>propaganda put out by the organic/health foods types, one can obtain decent
>fresh produce and other items at the local supermarket.  It does, however,
>require reasonable reading comprehension, a cookbook or two, and the desire
>to do it.


I worked in a grocery store in a down'n'out section of Fluffya
and the produce selection was *nothing* close to that in a
slightly better part of town, and a far cry from the yuppie
mega-supermarket in the 'burbs. There wasn't much fresh fruit or
vegetables, there was very little lean meat. The meat selection
was an eye-opener - everything seemed to be ultra-processed and
high-fat and cheap. You had to buy huge quantities of anything.

I had a little employee discount and only used it on things like
laundry detergent, cleaning stuff, never on food. I couldn't bear
to walk the food aisles. It was that depressing.

-rashmi


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 08:34:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24533
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 08:34:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00177F34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:05:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14015671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 16:05:45 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TK5jk15797 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:05:45 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020729200539.MWQH24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:05:39 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020729144419.2A06A7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729123555.0281c280@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:51:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729140923.00b653a0@mail.panax.com>

clyde w. voigtlander writes,

>I maintain that it costs no more to have "good" food rather than all of the
>processed, packaged, <convenience> stuff---probably less.

I'd say definitely less.  But unprocessed, unpackaged, non-convenience
foods are largely undifferentiated commodities -- which is
marketism/capitalism-unfriendly.  Convenience/junk foods are the easiest to
differentiate (with some exceptions, like brand-name water), so that's the
stuff that gets marketed hardest.

>Despite the propaganda put out by the organic/health foods types, one can
>obtain decent fresh produce and other items at the local supermarket.

"Propaganda" puts it quite strongly.  I'm hard-pressed to remember a health
food marketing message that said one couldn't find good quality food in the
produce department at the local supermarket.  And often nowadays, organic
food is sold on the basis of being better for the environment as much or
more than as being better for the consumer.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 08:38:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24537
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 08:38:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00177F9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:10:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14015989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 16:10:02 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f129.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.129]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TKA2k16441 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:10:02 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 13:09:56 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 20:09:56 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 20:09:56.0695 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[E8BACE70:01C2373B]
Message-ID:  <F129w6yL2m9lHiu3fQt00001fd7@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:09:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
>A serving is probably a 1/2 cup so it's definitely not
>worth it... not to me anyway.

Me neither. I'd rather eat a slab of meat!

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 08:39:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24549
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 08:39:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00177FAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:11:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14016036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 16:11:06 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f301.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.176]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TKB6k16560 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:11:06 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 13:11:00 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 20:11:00 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 20:11:00.0495 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[0EC1E9F0:01C2373C]
Message-ID:  <F301luo3npvqnJNeO9200005021@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:11:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
>I worked in a grocery store in a down'n'out section of Fluffya

Where?

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 08:39:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24553
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 08:39:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F05B60@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:05:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14016056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 16:11:21 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TKBKk16588 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:11:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DF2517D25; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 13:11:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729201119.DF2517D25@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:11:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729140923.00b653a0@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 29, 2002  2:16:13 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> At 07:44 AM 7/29/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
> >Sometimes it seems that only bad food choices are on sale.
>
> I maintain that it costs no more to have "good" food rather than all of the
> processed, packaged, <convenience> stuff---probably less.

I was just speaking for items on sale. Actually, this week, I bought
canteloupes for 39 cents ea, blueberries 2/$3. Eggplants for 69
cents. Avocadoes and tomatoes were also cheap this week. I also bought
meat on sale. I spend maybe $50 every two weeks.

> Despite the propaganda put out by the organic/health foods types,
> one can obtain decent fresh produce and other items at the local
> supermarket.  It does, however, require reasonable reading
> comprehension, a cookbook or two, and the desire to do it.

I think it requires time and desire to think about it, too. It's
entirely a matter of priorities. Food is a higher priority for me now
that my garden is finishing up.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 08:41:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24560
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 08:41:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F05BB4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:07:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14016337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 16:13:11 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TKD7k17015 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:13:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7B4937D1B; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 13:13:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729201306.7B4937D1B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:13:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729204933.A24883@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              29, 2002  8:49:33 pm"

steph said:
> Yabbut.  I have to buy stuff that's on sale because it's cheaper!
> Since the veggies have a market price, they're only on sale when
> they're nearly rotten,

I realize that you're speaking as a welfare mother of 6 on food
stamps, but let me assure you that this is not the case--the stuff on
sale is more likely to be fresh, because they go through such huge
amounts. This may be an effect of the current economy.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 08:48:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24580
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 08:48:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F05C60@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:14:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14016797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 16:19:57 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TKJvk18239 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:19:57 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-152.panax.com
          [63.163.41.152]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6TKJwn00687 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          16:19:58 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
            <20020729144419.2A06A7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729140923.00b653a0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020729204933.A24883@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D458DE4.4030705@swbell.net> <20020729140010.C5978@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729155441.00a113c0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729161833.00a01150@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:19:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D459F71.1070605@swbell.net>

>>No, don't sell her.  But do tell us what is the reason most people have
>>children?  I've never figured that out.
>
>        Good heavens, Bonnie.  I had no idea you were still chaste.
>Rita Rouvalis Chapman

Please don't tell me that people still have children simply because they
have sex.  I was hoping it had reached the level of deliberate choice these
days.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 08:51:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24584
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 08:51:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F05CD0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:17:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14016995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 16:23:12 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TKNCk18719 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:23:12 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H01007YT1YN3C@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:23:12 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
            <20020729144419.2A06A7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729140923.00b653a0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020729204933.A24883@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D458DE4.4030705@swbell.net> <20020729140010.C5978@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729155441.00a113c0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729161833.00a01150@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID:  <3D45A3CE.5080401@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:21:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

>>> No, don't sell her.  But do tell us what is the reason most people have
>>> children?  I've never figured that out.
>>
>>
>>        Good heavens, Bonnie.  I had no idea you were still chaste.
>> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>
>
> Please don't tell me that people still have children simply because they
> have sex.  I was hoping it had reached the level of deliberate choice these
> days.


        You overestimate the efficacy of birth control.  The vast
majority of pregnancies are still unplanned.


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 09:49:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24685
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 09:49:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0646A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:15:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14022373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 17:21:08 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TLL8v28736 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:21:08 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020729212102.ROMZ24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:21:02 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEIGGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:23:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729144419.2A06A7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>

> Sometimes it seems that only bad food choices are on sale.
>
> Karen

Right. Eating healthily takes more time, effort, money than eating
non-healthily.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com
Listening to Dave Carter & Tracy Grammer now, too bad he just died, this is
pretty good stuff
(and not usually this callous)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 09:50:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24692
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 09:50:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0648D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:16:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14022498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 17:22:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TLMbv29082 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:22:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B0B5C871F; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 14:22:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729212236.B0B5C871F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:22:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEIGGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 29, 2002  5:23:59 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> Listening to Dave Carter & Tracy Grammer now, too bad he just died, this is
> pretty good stuff
> (and not usually this callous)

I feel that way when I listen to Townes van Zandt.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 09:53:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24696
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 09:53:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F064AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:19:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14022600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 17:24:57 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TLOvv29345 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:24:57 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020729212451.RUZK24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:24:51 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGEEIGGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:27:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729152404.F3DB97CFF@yellow.rahul.net>

> Bean and potatoes? Tell me more, tell me more
>
> Karen
> who likes to eat

I had a great black-bean, sweet potato, and Cheddar burrito at FRFF. It was
so good that I had one on Thursday night, and another Sunday afternoon.

Saturday I had tofu curry from Nyota's Ting, a restaurant in NYC somewhere
that treks up to Falcon Ridge. It's easily the best vegetarian food I've
ever had.

--Adam, hungry for dinner
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 09:53:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24703
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 09:53:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F064B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:19:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14021796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 17:25:08 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f198.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.198]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TLF8v27523 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:15:08 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 14:15:02 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 21:15:02 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 21:15:02.0742 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[00EA4760:01C23745]
Message-ID:  <F198hGonP5l5WkNeLKs0000055d@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:15:02 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie:

> >I worked in a grocery store in a down'n'out section of Fluffya

>Where?

Thriftway in Powelton vilage. Three blocks north of Spring
Garden Street, considered the dividing line between the ok
and scary parts. No parking lot, closely spaced bars so you
couldn't walk out with shopping carts. Back in 1987 that
part of the city was still pretty dangerous. I only worked
afternoon shifts - couldn't stand being there later.

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 09:55:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24730
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 09:55:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F064EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:21:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14022739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 17:27:41 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TLRfv29693 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:27:41 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-115.panax.com
          [65.114.190.115]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6TLRfn14522 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          17:27:42 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKENBFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729172630.00b5bc80@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:27:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: New word for the day: Desuetude
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729200451.9C3247D47@yellow.rahul.net>

At 01:04 PM 7/29/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
>S Hess said:
> > desuetude
> >
> > n : a state of inactivity or disuse
> >
> > (from the On Writing article in today's NYTimes.com)
>
>How DO you pronounce this?

des way'  tude

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 09:59:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24737
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 09:59:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06513@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:25:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14022852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 17:31:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TLV0v30061 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:31:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 84CD281C6; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 14:30:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729213059.84CD281C6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:30:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: New word for the day: Desuetude
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729172630.00b5bc80@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Jul 29, 2002  5:27:39 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> At 01:04 PM 7/29/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
> >S Hess said:
> > > desuetude
> > >
> > > n : a state of inactivity or disuse
> > >
> > > (from the On Writing article in today's NYTimes.com)
> >
> >How DO you pronounce this?
>
> des way'  tude

Thanks. I don't think I've ever heard anyone use this word before,
though it's part of my reading vocabulary.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 10:00:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24749
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 10:00:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0652F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:25:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14022946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 17:31:45 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TLVjv30295 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:31:45 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-115.panax.com
          [65.114.190.115]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6TLVjn15342 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          17:31:46 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020729140923.00b653a0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020729144419.2A06A7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729172930.00b5bf60@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:31:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729123555.0281c280@mail.istori.com>

At 12:51 PM 7/29/2002 -0700, pete wrote:
 >"Propaganda" puts it quite strongly.  I'm hard-pressed to remember a health
>food marketing message that said one couldn't find good quality food in the
>produce department at the local supermarket.

Maybe on your end---but hereabouts, there are commercials which carry the
very strong suggestion that anything not organic is likely to have been
"engineered" and that it's not a good thing to mess with Mother
Nature.  How would <you> characterize such things?

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 10:01:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24754
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 10:01:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00178892@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:33:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14023066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 17:33:18 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TLXHv30645 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:33:18 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020729213312.SISL24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:33:12 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGEEIHGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:36:09 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Adam at the concert
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D441D01.B3815734@valstar.net>

> Poor thing. The weather is just rotten. It is dark as night, slightly
> rainy, humidity at 90 degrees. Yesterday was only slightly better.
> Wonder how his tenting is going. Although I offered him a bed, he backed
> out.

Thursday and Friday the weather was fine - cooler and drier on Friday, more
humid on Saturday but still cool compared to the scorchers of years past.
Sunday it was wicked muggy and started to drizzle around 11, which luckily
for me was after I broke camp and packed up the car.

Alyce, part of the reason I decided to camp is because I didn't want to risk
driving at night after exhausting days. I've done that before (hi Marie!)
and it was a miracle I got where I was going unscathed. As it was, yesterday
afternoon coming home, I pretty much zoned out as soon as I started
driving - I actually had to squirm around in the car seat so that I could
maintain my focus.

Plus, I didn't want you to see me all sweaty and gross from lots of
sunscreen and dirt. I do have appearance standards when I go visiting. :D

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 10:02:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24758
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 10:02:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06558@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:28:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14023096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 17:33:58 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TLXwv30695 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:33:58 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020729213353.SWKP22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:33:53 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIEIHGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:36:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Adam at the concert
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020728130756.009fbe60@pop3.norton.antivirus>

> How silly of him.  I thought your guest bedroom was lovely.

As did I. I will take advantage of it at some point. I particularly liked
Berta's glasses in the family portrait from the late '60's.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 10:02:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24762
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 10:02:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06564@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:28:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14023138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 17:34:29 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TLYTv30788 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:34:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D023F81C6; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 14:34:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020729213428.D023F81C6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:34:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Adam at the concert
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIEIHGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 29, 2002  5:36:50 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> As did I. I will take advantage of it at some point. I particularly liked
> Berta's glasses in the family portrait from the late '60's.

Why?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 10:03:04 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24766
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 10:03:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0656A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:28:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14023154 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 17:34:47 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TLYkv30819 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:34:47 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-115.panax.com
          [65.114.190.115]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6TLYln15902 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          17:34:47 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729173253.00b8c7d0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:34:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F60At1Q2xg4sQplIBWA00017131@hotmail.com>

At 07:55 PM 7/29/2002 +0000, rashmi wrote:

>I worked in a grocery store in a down'n'out section of Fluffya
>and the produce selection was *nothing* close to that in a
>slightly better part of town, and a far cry from the yuppie
>mega-supermarket in the 'burbs. There wasn't much fresh fruit or
>vegetables, there was very little lean meat. The meat selection
>was an eye-opener - everything seemed to be ultra-processed and
>high-fat and cheap.

OK.  I was writing from my perspective gained in East Tennessee (Oak Ridge)
and here---both of which clearly are a different world than the one that
you describe.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 10:05:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24794
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 10:05:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0659A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:31:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14023294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 17:37:10 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TLbAv31120 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:37:10 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020729213704.TAPL22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:37:04 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIEIIGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:40:02 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Adam at the concert
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729213428.D023F81C6@yellow.rahul.net>

> Adam Hartfield said:
> > As did I. I will take advantage of it at some point. I
> particularly liked
> > Berta's glasses in the family portrait from the late '60's.
>
> Why?

Not to be impolite, I know they were the style at the time, lots of women
probably wore them, but let's just say I'm glad I wasn't alive then and thus
didn't have to endure looking at them on a daily basis.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com
who already looks back on 80's fashions and grimaces

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 10:37:57 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24847
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 10:37:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00178B6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:09:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14024743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 18:09:36 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TLxav01615 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:59:36 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5997CDF for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:59:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6TLxZc66209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:59:35
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net>
            <000401c23731$9428eb30$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729165935.D5978@pobox.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:59:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000401c23731$9428eb30$48305b80@EAGLE72>; from
              plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 02:55:59PM -0400

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 02:55:59PM -0400, Alec D. Plotkin wrote:
> > > There wouldn't be much fun to it if I didn't.  He likes to poke
> > > so hard at what everyone else does.  What's the last thing he
> > > cooked, don't you wonder?  Perhaps he's got bachelor techy down
> > > to an art: pizza, happy hour food and soup from a can?  I grew
> > > out of that for all the time, but we still do it a lot (well,
> > > there's not much in the way of happy hour food here, but the
> > > pizza and ramen are still quite frequent).
> >
> >         Oh, who knows... maybe he doesn't cook at all.  Just eats out
> > all the time spending his illgotten H1B carelessly.
>
> Or maybe he makes a yummy Chicken Tikka Masala.

You know, I am proud of the fact that nobody knows. Proud, dammit.

BTW I haven't been an H1B low-rent for quite a while now. I just
like "posting poor" in order to piss K*R*N off. Of course K*R*N
is carrying on with some Ecuadoran of part-Vietnamese ancestry,
isn't she. That's OK, apparently.

The third point I would like to make is I am married.

The fourth point is when did the word "masala" get tacked on to
Chicken Tikka? That's not how I knew it in my youth.

The fifth point is what's with Indians? Don't ask me, ask anyone
who has travelled in India, the finery and variety of foods is
beyond surprising, it's disgusting. Yet, all you get in Chicago
is freakin Chicken Tikka Masala. When the new "upscale" place
opens in trixieland I will be the first to go, appearances be
damned.

The sixth point is, I finally triangulated on my relative (pretty
distant, pretty distant) who opened an Indian diner in the Bay Area
somewhere, in the early 50s. It was a bold diversification out of
the motel business, and going by the timing it belonged to the
earliest wave of Indian restaurants as we know it. Gives me kind
of an ancestry doesn't it. Despite the immense human interest in
this my mother won't lift a finger to find out anything about him.
Well, except the fact that his home--in sharp contradistinction to
the restaurant--had gotten bachelor techy down to an art.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 10:45:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24867
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 10:45:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F068AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:11:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14025448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 18:17:15 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f210.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.210]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TM7Fv02850 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:07:15 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 15:07:09 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 22:07:09 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 22:07:09.0652 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[48B2E140:01C2374C]
Message-ID:  <F210MIxccbNmCOYpN7U0000168f@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:07:09 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev:

>Hey, Rashmi.  Did you read the book?  Did you lug it through all the
>airports?  Do you like it?  Did you finish it?  Do you understand Doris a
>little better?

I liked -The Corrections- a lot. No more snide remarks about
Oprah books. I like the way he pulled off generous and human
and satirical at the same time. You and Rita were right. It was
a fast read once I got into it. Perfect for airplane and train
reading. Enid did remind me of Doris. I hang out with many
restaurant workers in Philly and parts/people of the
Denise section felt familiar. (The Norwegian-Swedish back'n'
forth on the cruise had me LOL.)

I didn't lug it back with me - the book is with steph now.

-rashmi

three advantages of business trips to Antwerp:
1. the beer
2. Hanging out with steph'n'pat
3. the beer (how do them Belgians get their beer to be so good?)

PS How's Patrick's sunburn?


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 10:52:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24871
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 10:52:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F068FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:17:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14025722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 18:23:48 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TMDmv03475 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:13:48 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885CF7B9F for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:13:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6TMDlH66984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:13:47
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D44A5ED.C5195688@maynor.net>
            <20020729022012.0F11E806D@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729171347.E5978@pobox.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:13:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729022012.0F11E806D@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 07:20:11PM -0700

On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 07:20:11PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> > When I do use the dishwasher, I wash the dishes first.
>
> What a huge waste of water!

I just remembered a ridiculous scene in Limonov's uber-crass
novel, "The Butler" or something. Some petty ego battle over
a dishwasher. That was a funny and un-lame novel ...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 10:53:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24878
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 10:53:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00178C5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:25:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14026179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 18:25:07 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TMP6v04749 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:25:06 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020729222501.VFPP24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:25:01 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGCEIJGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:27:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729165935.D5978@pobox.com>

> The third point I would like to make is I am married.

Surely this is a troll to see who reads what and who doesn't.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 10:56:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24882
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 10:56:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06923@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:22:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14025913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 18:28:17 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TMIGv03966 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:18:17 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7405B5F24 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:18:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6TMIGI67173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:18:16
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net> <20020728171332.A29163@pobox.com>
            <20020729101843.B23371@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729171816.F5978@pobox.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:18:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729101843.B23371@yoccoz.multinix.com>; from
              stevie@MULTINIX.COM on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 10:18:43AM +0200

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 10:18:43AM +0200, steph wrote:
> Ok, you mean it should be like:
>
> Man, it is so hot here, and I am really not going to heat the
> house up anymore by cooking something.  I thought, yeah, this is
> a great night to have gaspacho for dinner - just throw a bunch of
> stuff into the food processor, whirl, and stick in the fridge.
> Serve with bread, cheese, a little wine.

"Steph",

How are you doing. I meant anything which doesn't include sentences
like "the soup is chilling nicely in the fridge". It sounds like one
of those satirized no-class hostesses in ... who was that dramatist?
You know what I am talking about ... You give food precious anthro-
pomorphic qualities, you are fair game. Knowmsain.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 11:14:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24904
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 11:14:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00178D83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:46:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14026543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 18:46:13 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TMaDv06002 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:36:13 -0400
Received: from ferrer.red (80-24-207-233.uc.nombres.ttd.es [80.24.207.233]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TMaBV20072 for
          <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:36:11 -0400
Received: from localhost (pc1.ferrer.red [172.26.0.2]) by ferrer.red
          (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA14871; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:10:03 +0200
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
Message-ID:  <200207102010.WAA14871@ferrer.red>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:28:00 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "comunicaciones@solomovil.com" <comunicaciones@SOLOMOVIL.COM>
Subject:      Pub:90,08 Euros Moviles libres sin contratos
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

<html>
<head>
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<style type="text/css">
<!--
a {  text-decoration: none}
-->
</style>
</head>

<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<table width="95%" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="center" bordercolor="#CC3366">
  <tr>
    <td height="446">
      <table width="95%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="center">
        <tr>
          <td>
            <p align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b><font size="3"><a href="http://www.solomovil.com"><font color="#000000">El
              mejor precio en moviles libres : SOLOMOVIL.com</font></a></font></b></font></p>
            <table width="65%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="center">
              <tr>
                <td bgcolor="#99FF33" width="50%">
                  <p><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Samsung
                    T100</b><br>
                    WAP<br>
                    Melodias polifonicas, <br>
                    Pantalla a color.<br>
                    <b><font color="#0000FF">477,08 &euro;</font></b></font></p>
                </td>
                <td width="50%">
                  <div align="center"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="http://www.solomovil.com"><img src="http://www.moviles.com/grflibmoviles/samsungt100thum.jpg" border="0"></a></font></div>
                </td>
              </tr>
              <tr>
                <td width="50%">
                  <div align="center"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="http://www.solomovil.com"><img src="http://www.moviles.com/grflibmoviles/alcatel311thum.gif" border="0"></a></font></div>
                </td>
                <td bgcolor="#00FFFF" width="50%"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Alcatel
                  311 WAP</b><br>
                  Mensajes con un toque personal<br>
                  <b><font color="#0000FF">90,01 &euro;</font></b></font></td>
              </tr>
              <tr>
                <td bgcolor="#CC3366" height="84" width="50%">
                  <div align="left"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Nokia
                    3310 </b><br>
                    Tel&eacute;fono m&oacute;vil con car&aacute;cter propio.Opci&oacute;n
                    de chat.<br>
                    <font color="#0000FF"><b>111,64 &euro;</b></font><br>
                    </font></div>
                </td>
                <td height="84" width="50%">
                  <div align="center"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img src="http://www.moviles.com/grflibmoviles/3310thum.gif"></font></div>
                </td>
              </tr>
            </table>
            <div align="center">
              <p><a href="http://www.solomovil.com"><img src="http://www.solomovil.com/boton.gif" border="0"></a><br>
              </p>
            </div>
            <p align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Telefonos
              m&oacute;viles libres.<br>
              Compre solo el m&oacute;vil en solomovil.com</font></p>
            <p align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#CC3366"><b>Las
              mejores ofertas y precios en solomovil.com</b></font></p>
            <p align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">No
              te comprometas, llama en cada momento por la compa&ntilde;&iacute;a
              que mas te convenga, con la tarjeta mas barata, no te ates a largos
              contratos.</font></p>
            <p align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Destacate
              por tu telefono m&oacute;vil, pantallas a color, melod&iacute;as
              polifonicas, salvapantallas de colores, ....</font></p>
            <p align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Adem&aacute;s
              si quieres vender tu antiguo telefono m&oacute;vil en solomovil.com
              te ayudamos.</font></p>
            <p align="center"><a href="http://www.solomovil.com"><img src="http://www.solomovil.com/boton.gif" border="0"></a></p>
          </td>
        </tr>
      </table>
      <br>
    </td>
  </tr>
</table>
<p align="center"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Este
  mensaje se le envia porque en alg&uacute;n momento usted nos ha solicitado recibir
  informaci&oacute;n, si no desea recibir mas informaci&oacute;n puede contestar
  este e-mail poniendo UNSUSCRIBE en el subject del mensaje.</font></p>
</body>
</html>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 11:24:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24916
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 11:24:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00178E15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:55:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14027497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 18:55:43 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TMtgv08544 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:55:43 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020729225536.VLLZ221.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:55:36 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020729123555.0281c280@mail.istori.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729140923.00b653a0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020729144419.2A06A7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729153112.0231a5a0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:50:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729172930.00b5bf60@mail.panax.com>

clyde w. voigtlander writes,

>Maybe on your end---but hereabouts, there are commercials which carry the
>very strong suggestion that anything not organic is likely to have been
>"engineered" and that it's not a good thing to mess with Mother
>Nature.  How would <you> characterize such things?

You've got zealots.

For the type of marketing I generally see, check out Whole Foods, "the
largest purveyor of organic foods in the world," and their "Important
Reasons to Buy Organic":
<http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/issues/org_reasons.html>.  Note also that
the page is buried pretty deeply in the site.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 11:30:25 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24932
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 11:30:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06B23@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:56:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14027911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 19:02:06 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TN25v09449 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:02:05 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-115.panax.com
          [65.114.190.115]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6TN25n32627 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          19:02:05 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020729172930.00b5bf60@mail.panax.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729123555.0281c280@mail.istori.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729140923.00b653a0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020729144419.2A06A7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729185619.00b5c630@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:01:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729153112.0231a5a0@mail.istori.com>

At 03:50 PM 7/29/2002 -0700,  pete wrote:

>You've got zealots.

Yeah---in the same sense that ConAgra is a zealot.  The organic types would
love us to think of them as a bunch of Albert Schweitzers and Mother
Teresas, running around, tilling their fields and tending their flocks with
nothing but the highest concern for humankind in their heart and the love
of Jesus in their baby-blue eyes.  The truth is closer to the notion that
like all other entrepreneurs, they are driven by the profit motive---and if
fear sells, they damned well will use it.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 11:32:24 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24936
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 11:32:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06B48@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:58:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14028034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 19:04:05 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe52.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.41]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TN45v09735 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:04:05 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 16:03:59 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.70]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2002 23:03:59.0538 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[39263120:01C23754]
Message-ID:  <OE52avN3qljWwY0VnkB000028c4@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:05:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Marie:

>I remember seeing Jaws in the drive-in. And that Robin Williams Popeye
movie
which put me right to sleep.


>That might be it.

HA. I seem to recall X-rated films used to be shown at some drive-ins, like
during the Deep Throat/Flesh Gordon era ... not that I went.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 11:35:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24940
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 11:35:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06B76@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:00:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14028235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 19:06:41 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TN6fv10315 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:06:41 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws67-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.67]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6TN6c719810
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:06:38 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D45CA81.4F214CAA@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:06:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      What a Mad Wasp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I just got attacked in the neck by a wasp spitting fury.  But then I
guess I'd be mad also if somebody had just knocked down my house with a
broom handle.  That wasp was madder than a wet hornet.  Why are wet
hornets mad, btw?  In any case, my neck sure is sore.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 11:38:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24947
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 11:38:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00178F0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:09:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14028338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 19:09:44 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TN9iv10646 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:09:44 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws67-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.67]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6TN9f720684
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:09:42 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F37LUEM7RAluo3npvqn00002df1@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729085358.00a021f0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D45CB39.B6F6386D@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:09:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> How is your mother doing?  Are you going to sell the Huntsville house?

She's doing very well.  Presumably we'll sell the Hville house.  My
RRB&SIL don't seem to care whether the kitchen floor ever gets put down
or the hospital bed returned to the rental place.  I'm finding it all
quite ridiculous, to say the least, as the bills from Huntsville
Utilities etc. keep showing up in my mailbox.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 11:44:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24959
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 11:44:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00178F6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:15:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14028658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 19:15:52 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TNFpv11453 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:15:51 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws67-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.67]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6TNFj722535
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:15:47 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020729140448.8C4AA7C52@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D45CCA4.31422296@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:15:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > I don't like taking the dishes out.  Why that's more of a bother than
> > taking them out of the drying rack beside the sink I'm not sure, but it
> > does seem to be.
>
> You have to bend over, and you don't for the drying rack.

No, that's not it.  I realized (and added the realization) that it's a
matter of quantity.

> I don't use the heated drying either, but unless I interrupt the
> drying cycle (which I do when I think of it), the dishes are perfectly
> dry.

I don't understand.  Once I opened the dishwasher while the drying cycle
was still on, and it wouldn't work again until I let that drying cycle
finish.  How does one interrupt it?  In any case, my dishes are never
dry by the next morning.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 11:48:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24972
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 11:48:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00178FA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:19:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14028775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 19:19:49 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TNJnv11839 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:19:49 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id QAA72426 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          16:19:48 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207291618030.68504-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:19:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGCEIJGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Adam Hartfield wrote:

> > The third point I would like to make is I am married.
>
> Surely this is a troll to see who reads what and who doesn't.
>
I admit I've had to delete a lot of words-l unread.  It's the only way I
can stay subscribed.  So maybe I missed something?

  Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 11:56:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24986
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 11:56:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06C4D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:22:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14028986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 19:28:17 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TNSGv12607 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:28:16 -0400
Received: from attbi.com ([24.218.145.230]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020729232811.XXBO23732.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@attbi.com> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 23:28:11 +0000
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2
X-Accept-Language: en-us
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F129w6yL2m9lHiu3fQt00001fd7@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D45D0D2.7050208@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:33:38 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumb question for Mareeeeeber
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

By an odd twist of fate, Tina and I ended up having Annie's for dinner
tonight. A cup is 5 points. We also had two healthy choice, chicken,
beef and pork, hot dogs (1pt each) and laughed at the fact that we were
eating a kids meal. All that was missing was the twinkies!

lisa

Marie Ascher wrote:

>> From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
>> A serving is probably a 1/2 cup so it's definitely not
>> worth it... not to me anyway.
>
>
> Me neither. I'd rather eat a slab of meat!
>
> Marie
> lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> http://www.hotmail.com
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 11:58:15 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24990
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 11:58:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06C5B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:24:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14029021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 19:29:55 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TNTtv12710 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:29:55 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws67-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.67]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6TNTp727090
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:29:52 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
            <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net>
            <20020729112538.B23549@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D45CFF2.3DD4A421@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:29:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

>         Oh, who knows... maybe he doesn't cook at all.  Just eats out
> all the time spending his illgotten H1B carelessly.

I don't see it as an either-or thing.  There are plenty of things to be
eaten at home that don't require what I think of as <cooking>.  Taking a
couple of pieces of whole-wheat bread, putting some lettuce leaves on
it, and adding a couple of slices of soy cheese-substitute isn't what I
think of as cooking.  Yet I do that kind of feeding of myself regularly.

One thing in this food discussion that has struck me is that some of you
seem to think that everybody is <into> food -- as in into <fine
dining>.  Everybody has to be into food to some extent, of course, but
not everybody cares that much about what the food is.  As my mother has
often said, food is required fuel to keep the body working.  She was
always nutrition-conscious -- we always ate whatever the era's <good
nutrition> was considered to be.  But the idea of cooking and eating for
<fun> wasn't ever considered.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 12:11:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25035
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 12:11:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001790E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:43:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14029390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 19:43:13 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TNhBv14082 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:43:11 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-89.panax.com [63.163.41.89])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TNhBn07475 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:43:11 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGCEIJGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729194231.009fdec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:42:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207291618030.68504-100000@idiom.com>

> > > The third point I would like to make is I am married.
> >
> > Surely this is a troll to see who reads what and who doesn't.
> >
>I admit I've had to delete a lot of words-l unread.  It's the only way I
>can stay subscribed.  So maybe I missed something?
>   Sharon

Tushar is claiming to be married.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 12:15:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25050
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 12:15:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06D07@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:41:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14029613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 19:47:26 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TNlQv14743 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:47:26 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws180-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.180]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6TNlO702079
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:47:24 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207291450310.29546-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D45D3AF.B3596315@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:45:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: is Natalie here?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> A transformation is taking place outside my windows on the 11th floor of
> McClung Tower. The "new' (10 years ago) UT library used to be across the
> street. The library has not been moved - but the street has. In fact, it

I'm here, but I'm having trouble visualizing exactly what the scene is
-- as in the real scene from my days there, not the general idea of
streets being no longer streets -- that has happened on the MSU campus.
I still find myself thinking I'm crossing a street when walking to a
building that hasn't required crossing a street for many, many years
now.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 12:17:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25054
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 12:17:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06D19@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:43:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14029672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 19:49:12 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TNnCv14938 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:49:12 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws180-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.180]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6TNn8702845
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:49:08 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020729195747.MKXN22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D45D464.F93DAF8B@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:48:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lisa Alfieri wrote:

> What I do remember is we went in a beater car that didn't
> have an FM radio. That meant we had to park in the back
> at one of the few remaining speaker stations.

FM radio?  I can tell that drive-ins have changed since I last went.
What does a car's radio have to do with it?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 12:20:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25058
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 12:20:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017914A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:51:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14029740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 19:51:43 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TNphv15148 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:51:43 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws180-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.180]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6TNpe703530
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:51:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGAEIGGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D45D50F.5EFD0845@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:51:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:

> Right. Eating healthily takes more time, effort, money than eating
> non-healthily.

Time and effort perhaps, but I'm not convinced about money.  Beans and
rice aren't usually expensive.  The only expensive part of good
nutrition might be the green part.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 12:22:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25065
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 12:22:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017916C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:54:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14029827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 19:54:18 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6TNsIv15399 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:54:18 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws180-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.180]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6TNsE704148
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:54:15 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020729140923.00b653a0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020729144419.2A06A7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729172930.00b5bf60@mail.panax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D45D5AA.4C17A169@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:54:18 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:
>
> At 12:51 PM 7/29/2002 -0700, pete wrote:
>  >"Propaganda" puts it quite strongly.  I'm hard-pressed to remember a health
> >food marketing message that said one couldn't find good quality food in the
> >produce department at the local supermarket.
>
> Maybe on your end---but hereabouts, there are commercials which carry the
> very strong suggestion that anything not organic is likely to have been
> "engineered" and that it's not a good thing to mess with Mother
> Nature.  How would <you> characterize such things?

I'm confused.  Grocery stores here have certain things that are labeled
"organic."  Are organic things in health-food stores <more organic> than
organic things in Kroger?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 12:42:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25086
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 12:42:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06DF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:08:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14030396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 20:14:18 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U0EIv17159 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:14:18 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws147-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.147]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6U0EE709070
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:14:14 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020729173253.00b8c7d0@mail.panax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D45DA25.C9D553E8@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:13:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:
>
> At 07:55 PM 7/29/2002 +0000, rashmi wrote:
>
> >I worked in a grocery store in a down'n'out section of Fluffya
> >and the produce selection was *nothing* close to that in a
> >slightly better part of town, and a far cry from the yuppie
> >mega-supermarket in the 'burbs. There wasn't much fresh fruit or
> >vegetables, there was very little lean meat. The meat selection
> >was an eye-opener - everything seemed to be ultra-processed and
> >high-fat and cheap.
>
> OK.  I was writing from my perspective gained in East Tennessee (Oak Ridge)
> and here---both of which clearly are a different world than the one that
> you describe.

Mine also.  The grocery stores here don't vary very much in their
offerings or their clientele.  The only variance is that now that we
have a Super Walmart the other grocery stores are slipping in quality,
presumably for lack of customers because Wmart has much lower prices.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 12:45:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25101
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 12:45:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06E0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:11:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14030471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 20:17:32 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U0HWv17435 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:17:32 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws147-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.147]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6U0HT710176
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:17:29 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGEEIHGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D45DB1C.A176FA9B@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:17:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Adam at the concert
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:

> Alyce, part of the reason I decided to camp is because I didn't want to risk
> driving at night after exhausting days. I've done that before (hi Marie!)
> and it was a miracle I got where I was going.

You were an excellent driver the night we returned from Germantown and
you had to drive way out of your way to deliver me and the Bayla plant
to that motel near the airport!  Maybe that day didn't count as
exhausting.  It was a pretty leisurely day, iirc.  But I was
nevertheless zonked by the time we were a few miles out of Germantown.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 12:46:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25105
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 12:46:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06E15@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:12:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14030496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 20:18:22 -0400
Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6U0ILv17509 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          20:18:21 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6U0IKQ125288 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul
          2002 20:18:20 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEOAFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:17:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729194231.009fdec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

> > > > The third point I would like to make is I am married.
> > >
> > > Surely this is a troll to see who reads what and who doesn't.
> > >
> >I admit I've had to delete a lot of words-l unread.  It's the only way I
> >can stay subscribed.  So maybe I missed something?
> >   Sharon
>
> Tushar is claiming to be married.
>
>
>     --bonniev

It's probably one of those arranged deals by his family. He was just looking
for another excuse to hit the pubs. Now he's got it.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 12:49:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25109
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 12:49:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06E3A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:15:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14030644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 20:21:08 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U0L8v17860 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:21:08 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws147-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.147]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6U0L3711085
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:21:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net>
            <000401c23731$9428eb30$48305b80@EAGLE72>
            <20020729165935.D5978@pobox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D45DBF2.49E761DF@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:21:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:

> The third point I would like to make is I am married.

What?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 13:08:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25126
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 13:08:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06F17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:34:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14031439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 20:40:31 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U0eVv20058 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:40:31 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id RAA18884 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          17:40:30 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207291739350.17873-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:40:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729194231.009fdec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, bonniev wrote:

> > > > The third point I would like to make is I am married.
> > >
> > > Surely this is a troll to see who reads what and who doesn't.
> > >
> >I admit I've had to delete a lot of words-l unread.  It's the only way I
> >can stay subscribed.  So maybe I missed something?
> >   Sharon
>
> Tushar is claiming to be married.

Yes, I did read that.  I'm wondering if this was common list knowledge.

 Sharon

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 13:16:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25146
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 13:16:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06F4C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:42:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14031646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 20:48:08 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U0m5v20778 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:48:06 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-58.panax.com [63.163.41.58])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U0m4n18610 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:48:04 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020729194231.009fdec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729204722.00a02d60@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:47:45 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207291739350.17873-100000@idiom.com>

> > Tushar is claiming to be married.
>
>Yes, I did read that.  I'm wondering if this was common list knowledge.
>  Sharon

Nope.  I doubt that it is even true.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 13:18:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25150
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 13:18:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F06F5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:43:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14031721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 20:49:52 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U0nqv21006 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:49:52 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6U0nod27711 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          19:49:50 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <3D45CA81.4F214CAA@maynor.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <008601c23763$40011d20$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:51:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: What a Mad Wasp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> I just got attacked in the neck by a wasp spitting fury.  But then I
> guess I'd be mad also if somebody had just knocked down my house with
a
> broom handle.  That wasp was madder than a wet hornet.  Why are wet
> hornets mad, btw?  In any case, my neck sure is sore.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

I was sitting on the beach a few weeks ago and a
big bee lit on my wrist, stung me quickly and flew
away (soon to die because he left his stinger).
By midnight I had a giant red welt that went from
my wrist to my elbow.

                      - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 13:38:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25183
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 13:38:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F07016@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:04:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14032355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 21:10:23 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U1ANv23081 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:10:23 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020730011017.EFYF22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 01:10:17 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEIOGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:13:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D45D50F.5EFD0845@maynor.net>

> > Right. Eating healthily takes more time, effort, money than eating
> > non-healthily.
>
> Time and effort perhaps, but I'm not convinced about money.  Beans and
> rice aren't usually expensive.  The only expensive part of good
> nutrition might be the green part.

Beans and rice aren't expensive, but lean protein is. Fruit is expensive; at
least here it is. That kind of stuff is comparatively expensive, too - junk
food is cheaper than fresh fruits and vegetables.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 13:41:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25195
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 13:41:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F07043@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:07:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14032505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 21:13:10 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U1DAv23399 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:13:10 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020730011303.DWKU24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 01:13:03 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEIOGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:16:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Adam at the concert
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D45DB1C.A176FA9B@maynor.net>

> You were an excellent driver the night we returned from Germantown and
> you had to drive way out of your way to deliver me and the Bayla plant
> to that motel near the airport!  Maybe that day didn't count as
> exhausting.  It was a pretty leisurely day, iirc.  But I was
> nevertheless zonked by the time we were a few miles out of Germantown.

Thank you. It wasn't way out of my way to bring you to the airport.

No, that day in March wasn't exhausting at all. Yesterday, I had trouble
keeping my eyes focused on the road and paying attention to traffic. If I
had been able to make better decisions, I would have taken routes 23 and 57
home, which was the way we went to Alyce's, instead of taking the
high-traffic Pike.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 13:58:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25217
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 13:58:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F070D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:24:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14033063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 21:30:17 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U1UHv25473 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:30:17 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6U1UGtb002345 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:30:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020726173320.00b49ba8@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020729183009.00a25860@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:30:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: perhaps not total relaxation, but...
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020729103052.033c4a18@victoria.nb.no>

At 10:31 AM 7/29/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>18:03 26.07.2002 -0400 skrev clyde w. voigtlander:
>>The forecast today approached perfection:  light winds, mostly sunny, highs
>
>I really would like to go and visit Bar Harbor!

Next July.  You can kayak, too!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 14:00:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25231
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 14:00:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001796B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:32:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14033131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 21:32:13 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U1WDv25673 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:32:13 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020730013207.FJFF22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 01:32:07 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020729153112.0231a5a0@mail.istori.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729172930.00b5bf60@mail.panax.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729123555.0281c280@mail.istori.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729140923.00b653a0@mail.panax.com>
            <20020729144419.2A06A7CC8@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D452DFD.648C3D1C@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729181020.02422b40@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:28:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729185619.00b5c630@mail.panax.com>

clyde w. voigtlander writes,

>The truth is closer to the notion that
>like all other entrepreneurs, they are driven by the profit motive---and if
>fear sells, they damned well will use it.

Boy, you've got nasty zealots.  The organic types I know of really do care
more about the kind of Earth they leave behind for future generations than
profit.

All the natural food types have been considerably chastened by the FDA and
things like E. coli scares, too, and make many fewer claims for health
benefits of organics, etc.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 14:01:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25235
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 14:01:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F070FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:27:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14033199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 21:33:23 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U1XMv25815 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:33:22 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6U1XLd09280 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          20:33:21 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <F210MIxccbNmCOYpN7U0000168f@hotmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <00a701c23769$540c9640$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:35:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> bonniev:
>
> >Hey, Rashmi.  Did you read the book?  Did you lug it through all the
> >airports?  Do you like it?  Did you finish it?  Do you understand
Doris a
> >little better?
>
> I liked -The Corrections- a lot. >  > reading.
 Enid did remind me of Doris. >

 -rashmi

Okay.  I'll get the damn book and read it.
Oh, but maybe you meant Doris Smith
or Doris Kearns Goodwin?

                 - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 14:02:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25239
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 14:02:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F07102@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:27:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14033214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 21:33:46 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U1Xkv25844 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:33:46 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws197-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.197]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6U1XE700862
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:33:14 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D45CA81.4F214CAA@maynor.net>
            <008601c23763$40011d20$360332d1@0018079268>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D45ECDD.D7793EFE@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:33:17 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What a Mad Wasp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:

> By midnight I had a giant red welt that went from
> my wrist to my elbow.

I'm hoping that I zapped all the nastiness out of the wasp sting by
quickly grabbing a stalk of aloe vera and smearing its slime on the
area.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 14:02:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25243
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 14:02:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F07107@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:28:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14032846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 21:34:06 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U1O6v24683 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:24:06 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E498B7CCF for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:24:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6U1O5K73699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:24:05
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <F1710Ja8v9lZfkI1ylz00017e45@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729202405.G5978@pobox.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:24:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F1710Ja8v9lZfkI1ylz00017e45@hotmail.com>; from
              rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 07:32:47PM +0000

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 07:32:47PM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote:
> That's my guess - he usually eats with the Pakistani cabbies
> (fellow H1B scabs nodoubt).

That's unfortunately my upbringing--bachelors eat at "subscription
diners". It sits well with me. Perhaps people don't understand the
point of sitting around scratching your belly and swilling tea like
a no-life bum.

As for "treats"--I treat me and others to a much bigger range of
things than maybe I let on.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 14:02:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25247
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 14:02:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F07108@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:28:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14033235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 21:34:08 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U1Y8v25901 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:34:08 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws197-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.197]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6U1Y3701137
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:34:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKEIOGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D45ED0F.2BD636C2@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:34:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:

> Beans and rice aren't expensive, but lean protein is.

?? Beans and rice are lean protein, aren't they?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 14:03:31 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25251
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 14:03:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F07112@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:29:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14033268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 21:35:08 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U1Z7v26008 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:35:07 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws197-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.197]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6U1Z2701449
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:35:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOEIOGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D45ED49.30B0276C@maynor.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:35:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Adam at the concert
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:

> Thank you. It wasn't way out of my way to bring you to the airport.

But it was!  We passed very close to your apartment en route.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 14:05:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25255
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 14:05:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001796F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:37:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14032965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 21:37:14 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U1REv25167 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:27:14 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C3F64E1 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:27:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6U1RDV73862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:27:13
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020729194231.009fdec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEOAFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729202713.H5978@pobox.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:27:13 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEOAFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>; from
              Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM on Mon, Jul 29,
              2002 at 05:17:01PM -0700

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 05:17:01PM -0700, S Hess wrote:
> > > > > The third point I would like to make is I am married.
> > > >
> > > > Surely this is a troll to see who reads what and who doesn't.
> > > >
> > >I admit I've had to delete a lot of words-l unread.  It's the only way I
> > >can stay subscribed.  So maybe I missed something?
> > >   Sharon
> >
> > Tushar is claiming to be married.
>
> It's probably one of those arranged deals by his family. He was just looking
> for another excuse to hit the pubs. Now he's got it.

Your forged headers fool no one, Doris.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 14:08:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25259
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 14:08:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0713B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:33:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14033424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 21:39:38 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U1dbv26431 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:39:37 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6U1datb017237 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:39:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <F27RVwKB99hwduqa5fI0002027f@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020729183945.00a7c820@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:39:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729162526.914F77C9A@yellow.rahul.net>

At 09:25 AM 7/29/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Marie Ascher said:
> > >From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
> > > > That's even better! I can definitely see him as Fernando.
> > > >
> > >I guessed Fernando two weeks ago. I said, "Fernando, Geraldo?" and you
> > >said not.
> >
> > She got nervous when either aht or I got it right!
>
>Phhhbt! No, but you guys seemed to require a name, and Fernando fits.

Oleander

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 14:13:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25283
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 14:13:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00179760@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:44:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14033548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 21:44:58 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U1iwv26903 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:44:58 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6U1iud19706 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          20:44:56 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207291739350.17873-100000@idiom.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <011c01c2376a$f2503900$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:46:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >
> > Tushar is claiming to be married.
>
> Yes, I did read that.  I'm wondering if this was common list
knowledge.
>
>  Sharon

It is common list knowledge that
Tushar will say just about anything
that comes into his head.

            - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 14:28:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25303
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 14:28:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F071D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:54:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14033647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 22:00:25 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U1oOv27435 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:50:25 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E16C69E2 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:50:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6U1oO574737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:50:24
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net>
            <20020729112538.B23549@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net> <3D45CFF2.3DD4A421@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020729205024.I5978@pobox.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:50:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D45CFF2.3DD4A421@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Mon,
              Jul 29, 2002 at 06:29:55PM -0500

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 06:29:55PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> One thing in this food discussion that has struck me

This is not a food discussion, it's an itch report.

> But the idea of cooking and eating for <fun> wasn't ever considered.

Well, I consider it. I am very much for eating food that is bright,
tasty, generous. I often take advantage of any spare money and walk
in and have a good extensive meal. However, I think that's absolutely
the opposite of almost every nerd who is "into food" that I can see...
I am of course talking about the alarming volume of rhapsodic food
writing in the culture, as a whole. It grosses me out. Let me tell
you how I make the distinction: I correctly relate food to hospitality
and cheer, whereas these nerds relate it to romance. Notice how these
very nerds betray no clue about what romance is either (nor does their
language ever stray from a stale and vulgar baseline, which is another
symptom). Basically, a culture where food has a seductive dimension
and chefs are superstars or prima donnas is a gross, rotting culture,
and a horrible parody of the real thing.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 15:17:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25370
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 15:17:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00179A8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:49:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14035368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 22:49:20 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U2nKv32678 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:49:20 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H01003P2JU7UE@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:49:19 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F210MIxccbNmCOYpN7U0000168f@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D45FE4C.3060900@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:47:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rashmi Murthy wrote:



> I didn't lug it back with me - the book is with steph now.
>

        Excellent!  Now Steph can get in on it.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 15:18:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25377
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 15:18:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00179A91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:49:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14035404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 22:49:42 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U2ngv32707 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:49:42 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H01005BRJUUWU@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:49:42 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F210MIxccbNmCOYpN7U0000168f@hotmail.com>
            <00a701c23769$540c9640$360332d1@0018079268>
Message-ID:  <3D45FE63.1010101@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:48:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:

>>bonniev:
>>
>>
>>>Hey, Rashmi.  Did you read the book?  Did you lug it through all the
>>>airports?  Do you like it?  Did you finish it?  Do you understand
>>>
> Doris a
>
>>>little better?
>>>
>>I liked -The Corrections- a lot. >  > reading.
>>
>  Enid did remind me of Doris. >
>
>  -rashmi
>
> Okay.  I'll get the damn book and read it.
> Oh, but maybe you meant Doris Smith
> or Doris Kearns Goodwin?
>

        No, Enid.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 15:18:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25381
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 15:18:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F073EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:43:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14035407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 22:49:44 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U2niv32711 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:49:44 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6U2nfh28765 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:49:41 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207292144570.28477-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:49:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729205024.I5978@pobox.com>

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 06:29:55PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > One thing in this food discussion that has struck me
>
> This is not a food discussion, it's an itch report.

Good.  Because some damned thing bit me on my right leg just below the
calf and above the ankle, and it is swollen BIG and it itches too and it's
hot and hard - heh heh my leg, that is - snork - SORRY

Anyway, if I got this bite on the deck I'm ok with that.  But I think I
got it in bed.  We have spiders around, we live with them, but I was never
bitten DAMN.

What am I supposed to do, clean house or something?  I hate that.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 15:20:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25385
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 15:20:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F07426@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:46:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14035575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 22:52:16 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U2qFv00575 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:52:15 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H01003M4JZ351@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:52:15 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
            <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net>
            <20020729112538.B23549@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net> <3D45CFF2.3DD4A421@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D45FEFC.1030203@swbell.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:50:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:


> I don't see it as an either-or thing.  There are plenty of things to be
> eaten at home that don't require what I think of as <cooking>.  Taking a
> couple of pieces of whole-wheat bread, putting some lettuce leaves on
> it, and adding a couple of slices of soy cheese-substitute isn't what I
> think of as cooking.  Yet I do that kind of feeding of myself regularly.


And we all feel sorry for you.  I can only believe that
umpteen thousands of cigarettes have completely killed off
your taste buds, because you eat even worse than I do.


> One thing in this food discussion that has struck me is that some of you
> seem to think that everybody is <into> food -- as in into <fine
> dining>.  Everybody has to be into food to some extent, of course, but
> not everybody cares that much about what the food is.  As my mother has
> often said, food is required fuel to keep the body working.  She was
> always nutrition-conscious -- we always ate whatever the era's <good
> nutrition> was considered to be.  But the idea of cooking and eating for
> <fun> wasn't ever considered.


I'm not the least bit into food -- I dislike cooking -- but
I don't waste my time preparing fuel that has no taste.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 15:21:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25392
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 15:21:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F07432@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:46:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14035603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 22:52:48 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U2qlv00609 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:52:47 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6U2qk928828 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:52:46 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207292150330.28779-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:52:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729165935.D5978@pobox.com>

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:

> BTW I haven't been an H1B low-rent for quite a while now. I just
> like "posting poor" in order to piss K*R*N off. Of course K*R*N
> is carrying on with some Ecuadoran of part-Vietnamese ancestry,
> isn't she. That's OK, apparently.

It's apparently ok because none of Karen's boyfriends have jobs!  Have you
noticed that?

Maybe I'm wrong about Fernandoleander, I dunno.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 15:25:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25402
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 15:25:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F074D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:51:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14036070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 22:57:32 -0400
Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U2vWv01121 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:57:32 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id
          c.104.194997b7 (4362) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul
          2002 22:57:28 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <104.194997b7.2a775a97@aol.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:57:27 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/29/2002 6:49:27 PM Central Daylight Time,
natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes:

<<
FM radio?  I can tell that drive-ins have changed since I last went.
What does a car's radio have to do with it?


>>

Instead of using speakers, the theater broadcasts the sound over an
FM frequency.  You just turn your radio to that frequency and listen.
Question:  do people who live close to the theater also pick up the
frequency on their radios?

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 15:35:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25421
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 15:35:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F079EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 23:00:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14039702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 23:06:34 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe19.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U36Yv03298 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 23:06:34 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
          29 Jul 2002 20:06:29 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
References:  <104.194997b7.2a775a97@aol.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2002 03:06:29.0029 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[19525550:01C23776]
Message-ID:  <OE19uA02rUPlZs7WVRv00002c45@hotmail.com>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:04:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Question:  do people who live close to the theater also pick up the
> frequency on their radios?

Yes they do. Until a couple of years ago there was a drive in in McAllen
that Graham and I liked to go to. It was along the expressway, and as we
drove off, we could still hear the movie soundtrack up to a half mile down
the road.

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 15:51:50 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25458
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 15:51:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F07BD5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 23:17:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14041126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 23:23:25 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6U3NOv05287 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 23:23:24 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA10432
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Mon, 29 Jul 2002
          20:23:23 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 239C197007 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:23:23 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 10428 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2002 03:23:22 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 30 Jul 2002 03:23:22 -0000
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207291739350.17873-100000@idiom.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729194231.009fdec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130307b96bacd53675@[66.237.73.49]>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:23:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020729204722.00a02d60@pop3.norton.antivirus>

>> > Tushar is claiming to be married.
>>
>>Yes, I did read that.  I'm wondering if this was common list knowledge.
>>  Sharon
>
>Nope.  I doubt that it is even true.
>
>
>    --bonniev

Specifically, he is married to Janeane Garafolo.  See (inter many alia)
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&safe=off&selm=7oo
4c0%24sl9%241%40eve.enteract.com


Ken Miller
Delusional Stalker of Usenet

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 17:29:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25573
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 17:29:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F08186@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 0:54:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14045591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 01:00:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U50Mv14552 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 01:00:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 44C4983C5; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 22:00:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730050021.44C4983C5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:00:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D45CCA4.31422296@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 29,
              2002  6:15:48 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > I don't like taking the dishes out.  Why that's more of a bother than
> > > taking them out of the drying rack beside the sink I'm not sure, but it
> > > does seem to be.
> >
> > You have to bend over, and you don't for the drying rack.
>
> No, that's not it.  I realized (and added the realization) that it's a
> matter of quantity.

Uh, okay.

> > I don't use the heated drying either, but unless I interrupt the
> > drying cycle (which I do when I think of it), the dishes are perfectly
> > dry.
>
> I don't understand.  Once I opened the dishwasher while the drying cycle
> was still on, and it wouldn't work again until I let that drying cycle
> finish.

Can't you just progress the dial?

> In any case, my dishes are never dry by the next morning.

Hm. I wonder why.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 17:30:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25586
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 17:30:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017A3A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 1:01:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14045872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 01:01:58 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U51vv14977 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 01:01:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E283B8A22; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 22:01:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730050156.E283B8A22@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:01:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D45CFF2.3DD4A421@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 29,
              2002  6:29:55 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> often said, food is required fuel to keep the body working.  She was
> always nutrition-conscious -- we always ate whatever the era's <good
> nutrition> was considered to be.  But the idea of cooking and eating for
> <fun> wasn't ever considered.

That makes me sad.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 17:44:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25605
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 17:44:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F08251@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 1:10:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14046044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 01:15:53 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U55rv15351 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 01:05:53 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207BA6CE3 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:05:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6U55qp82003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:05:52
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207291739350.17873-100000@idiom.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729194231.009fdec0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020729204722.00a02d60@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <v03130307b96bacd53675@[66.237.73.49]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730000552.A79357@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:05:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130307b96bacd53675@[66.237.73.49]>; from bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM
              on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 08:23:18PM -0700

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 08:23:18PM -0700, Bookrat wrote:
> Specifically, he is married to Janeane Garafolo.  See (inter many alia)
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&safe=off&selm=7oo4c0%24sl9%241%40eve.enteract.com
>
>
> Ken Miller
> Delusional Stalker of Usenet

Forgery.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 17:47:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25617
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 17:47:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F08259@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 1:13:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14046370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 01:18:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U5Iwv16401 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 01:18:58 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F1DF789FE; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 22:18:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730051824.F1DF789FE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:18:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D45ED0F.2BD636C2@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 29,
              2002  8:34: 7 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Adam Hartfield wrote:
> > Beans and rice aren't expensive, but lean protein is.
>
> ?? Beans and rice are lean protein, aren't they?

They are carbohydrates.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 17:52:14 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25633
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 17:52:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F08277@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 1:17:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14046481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 01:23:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U5Niv16839 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 01:23:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2E4667E3B; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 22:23:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730052344.2E4667E3B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:23:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020729183945.00a7c820@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Jul 29, 2002  6:39:58 pm"

Betty said:
> At 09:25 AM 7/29/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Marie Ascher said:
> > > >From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
> > > > > That's even better! I can definitely see him as Fernando.
> > > > >
> > > >I guessed Fernando two weeks ago. I said, "Fernando, Geraldo?" and you
> > > >said not.
> > >
> > > She got nervous when either aht or I got it right!
> >
> >Phhhbt! No, but you guys seemed to require a name, and Fernando fits.
>
> Oleander

No, he's definitely Fernando. And I'm definitely loopy about
Fernando, even though he has no teeth. He is a very, very nice
person.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 17:56:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25637
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 17:56:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F08290@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 1:21:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14046554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 01:27:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U5Rav17127 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 01:27:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 16A097C4C; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 22:27:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730052736.16A097C4C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:27:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207292144570.28477-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 29, 2002  9:49:41 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> Good.  Because some damned thing bit me on my right leg just below the
> calf and above the ankle, and it is swollen BIG and it itches too and it's
> hot and hard - heh heh my leg, that is - snork - SORRY
>
> Anyway, if I got this bite on the deck I'm ok with that.  But I think I
> got it in bed.  We have spiders around, we live with them, but I was never
> bitten DAMN.
>
> What am I supposed to do, clean house or something?  I hate that.

I don't think cleaning helps. But yes, it sounds like a spider bite. I
was convinced I had gangrene the last time I had one.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 17:59:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25647
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 17:59:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F082AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 1:25:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14046674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 01:31:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U5VKv17571 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 01:31:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 429657EF9; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 22:31:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730053119.429657EF9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:31:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207292150330.28779-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 29, 2002  9:52:46 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:
> > BTW I haven't been an H1B low-rent for quite a while now. I just
> > like "posting poor" in order to piss K*R*N off. Of course K*R*N
> > is carrying on with some Ecuadoran of part-Vietnamese ancestry,
> > isn't she. That's OK, apparently.
>
> It's apparently ok because none of Karen's boyfriends have jobs!  Have you
> noticed that?

I have.

But the truth is, Fernando has decided to dedicate his life to making
my life better, and let me tell you... That's a full time job in itself.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 18:06:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25667
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 18:06:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017A547@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 1:38:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14046635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 01:38:18 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U5SIv17332 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 01:28:18 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624806B7A for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:28:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6U5SEe82787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:28:14
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020729205024.I5978@pobox.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207292144570.28477-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730002814.B79357@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:28:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207292144570.28477-100000@og1.olagrande.net>;
              from aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET on Mon, Jul 29,
              2002 at 09:49:41PM -0500

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 09:49:41PM -0500, Ann Borkin wrote:
> Good.  Because some damned thing bit me on my right leg just below the
> calf and above the ankle, and it is swollen BIG and it itches too and it's
> hot and hard - heh heh my leg, that is - snork - SORRY

Is it hurting a lot?

> Anyway, if I got this bite on the deck I'm ok with that.  But I think I
> got it in bed.  We have spiders around, we live with them, but I was never
> bitten DAMN.
>
> What am I supposed to do, clean house or something?  I hate that.

Why, when you can LEAP FROM HIGH-RISE TO HIGH-RISE? Snare a bus or
train at will. Play a bridge like a harp.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 18:17:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25686
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 18:17:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0833A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 1:43:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14046953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 01:49:10 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U5dAv18307 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 01:39:10 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E28D70F7 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:39:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6U5dAp83127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:39:10
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020729165935.D5978@pobox.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207292150330.28779-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730003910.C79357@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:39:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207292150330.28779-100000@og1.olagrande.net>;
              from aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET on Mon, Jul 29,
              2002 at 09:52:46PM -0500

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 09:52:46PM -0500, Ann Borkin wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:
> > BTW I haven't been an H1B low-rent for quite a while now. I just
> > like "posting poor" in order to piss K*R*N off. Of course K*R*N
> > is carrying on with some Ecuadoran of part-Vietnamese ancestry,
> > isn't she. That's OK, apparently.
>
> It's apparently ok because none of Karen's boyfriends have jobs!  Have you
> noticed that?
>
> Maybe I'm wrong about Fernandoleander, I dunno.

IMO this post is saying something very different than it seems to,
by means of a steganographed subtext channel. It is simply saying
who gives a rat's ass, Dr Borkin is fairly pleased to hear from
the T Man.

Discuss

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 19:00:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25825
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 19:00:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F08533@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 2:26:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14049099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 02:32:28 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U6WSv23683 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 02:32:28 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6U6d6k26045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:39:06
          +0200
References: <F210MIxccbNmCOYpN7U0000168f@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730083905.A26035@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:39:05 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F210MIxccbNmCOYpN7U0000168f@hotmail.com>; from
              rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 10:07:09PM +0000

=
= PS How's Patrick's sunburn?
=

Oh, it wasn't really much of a burn at all.  It had gone all
brown by the next morning.  Same for my nose - it was brown by
the time I went to bed.

I can't believe it was too hot to be drinking beer!

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 19:01:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25829
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 19:01:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F08539@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 2:27:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14049115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 02:33:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U6XOv23737 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 02:33:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C95D2824A; Mon, 29
          Jul 2002 23:33:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730063323.C95D2824A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Mon, 29 Jul 2002 23:33:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730083905.A26035@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              30, 2002  8:39: 5 am"

steph said:
> I can't believe it was too hot to be drinking beer!

???? I can't imagine a temperature for that.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 19:54:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25938
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 19:54:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F08670@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 3:20:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14050091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 03:26:15 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U7QEv27557 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 03:26:15 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT423J>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:26:14 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4232; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:26:10 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020729094850.03393448@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020730092552.030829c8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:26:04 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Cat meets rabbit and other gifs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729135737.D504A7E78@yellow.rahul.net>

06:57 29.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>Espen Ore said:
> > And here is one of my mother and me as we were enjoing ice cream in
> > downtown Bergen:
>
>Ohmigod! Your mother is a great grandmother!

Yes.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 20:04:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25959
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 20:04:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017A9FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 3:35:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14050163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 03:35:44 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U7Zhv28110 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 03:35:43 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6U7gLH26140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:42:21
          +0200
References: <3D45CCA4.31422296@maynor.net>
            <20020730050021.44C4983C5@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730094221.A26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:42:21 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730050021.44C4983C5@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 10:00:20PM -0700

=
= Can't you just progress the dial?
=

I have a dishwasher with no dial, and you can't click it off.
Maybe it has a secret thingy somewhere, but I haven't found it.
You have to let it finish the cycle.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 20:07:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25971
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 20:07:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F086A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 3:32:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14050228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 03:38:40 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U7cdv28307 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 03:38:39 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6U7jIP26150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:45:18
          +0200
References: <20020730083905.A26035@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730063323.C95D2824A@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730094517.B26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:45:17 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730063323.C95D2824A@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 11:33:23PM -0700

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 11:33:23PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
= steph said:
= > I can't believe it was too hot to be drinking beer!
=
= ???? I can't imagine a temperature for that.

Well, I am never well hydrated ahead of time.  It was very hot
and we were walking around in the sun.  All I wanted was water.

Rashmi had a beer, though.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 20:11:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25979
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 20:11:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F086B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 3:37:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14050294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 03:43:19 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U7hJv28633 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 03:43:19 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6U7nvW26160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:49:57
          +0200
References: <3D45ED0F.2BD636C2@maynor.net>
            <20020730051824.F1DF789FE@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730094957.C26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:49:57 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730051824.F1DF789FE@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 10:18:24PM -0700

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 10:18:24PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
= Natalie Maynor said:
= > Adam Hartfield wrote:
= > > Beans and rice aren't expensive, but lean protein is.
= >
= > ?? Beans and rice are lean protein, aren't they?
=
= They are carbohydrates.

They may be carbs, but they're also protien.  I garuantee you
that I am not suffering from a protien deficiency.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 20:15:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25994
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 20:15:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0873D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 3:40:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14050637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 03:46:36 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U7kav28933 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 03:46:36 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6U7rEQ26176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:53:14
          +0200
References: <F1710Ja8v9lZfkI1ylz00017e45@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730095314.D26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:53:14 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F1710Ja8v9lZfkI1ylz00017e45@hotmail.com>; from
              rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 07:32:47PM +0000

= That's my guess - he usually eats with the Pakistani cabbies
= (fellow H1B scabs nodoubt). For a treat (or a change) it's Thai

I've eaten where the Pakistani cabbies eat.  It's not bad, but a
little greasy.  It was not when the cabbies were there, however,
so the food had been sitting around for a while.

Cafetieria food may nourish your body, but it's a long haul for
nourishing the soul.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 20:22:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25998
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 20:22:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0880A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 3:48:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14051230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 03:54:08 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U7s7v29665 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 03:54:07 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6U80jP26192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:00:45
          +0200
References: <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net>
            <000401c23731$9428eb30$48305b80@EAGLE72>
            <20020729165935.D5978@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730100045.E26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:00:45 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729165935.D5978@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Mon,
              Jul 29, 2002 at 04:59:35PM -0500

=
= You know, I am proud of the fact that nobody knows. Proud, dammit.
=

No one knows about most of us.  It wasn't all that long ago that
Anne said that they were mostly cooking as opposed to eating out.

= The third point I would like to make is I am married.
=

Elaborate.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 20:25:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26005
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 20:25:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0887C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 3:51:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14051572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 03:57:19 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U7vIv30057 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 03:57:18 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6U83uM26203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:03:56
          +0200
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net> <20020728171332.A29163@pobox.com>
            <20020729101843.B23371@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020729171816.F5978@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730100356.F26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:03:56 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729171816.F5978@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Mon,
              Jul 29, 2002 at 05:18:16PM -0500

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 05:18:16PM -0500, Tushar Samant wrote:
= On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 10:18:43AM +0200, steph wrote:
= > Ok, you mean it should be like:
= >
= > Man, it is so hot here, and I am really not going to heat the
= > house up anymore by cooking something.  I thought, yeah, this is
= > a great night to have gaspacho for dinner - just throw a bunch of
= > stuff into the food processor, whirl, and stick in the fridge.
= > Serve with bread, cheese, a little wine.
=
= "Steph",
=
= How are you doing. I meant anything which doesn't include sentences
= like "the soup is chilling nicely in the fridge". It sounds like one
= of those satirized no-class hostesses in ... who was that dramatist?
= You know what I am talking about ... You give food precious anthro-
= pomorphic qualities, you are fair game. Knowmsain.

Sorry, I don't get it.  Anything I have to stick in the fridge so
that it can be consumed cold as opposed to just preserved had
better damn well be "chilling nicely".

steph
and that includes the beer

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 20:26:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26012
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 20:26:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017AB4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 3:58:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14051600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 03:58:24 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U7wNv30135 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 03:58:23 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6U852x26212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:05:02
          +0200
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net>
            <20020729112538.B23549@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net> <3D45CFF2.3DD4A421@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730100502.G26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:05:02 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D45CFF2.3DD4A421@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Mon,
              Jul 29, 2002 at 06:29:55PM -0500

= nutrition> was considered to be.  But the idea of cooking and eating for
= <fun> wasn't ever considered.
=
= --
=  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

this explains the store bought cake!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 20:48:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26042
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 20:48:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F08971@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 4:14:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14052328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 04:19:58 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U8Jwv31959 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 04:19:58 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT42SD>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:19:57 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT42SC; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:19:53 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <000401c23731$9428eb30$48305b80@EAGLE72>
            <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net>
            <000401c23731$9428eb30$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020730101825.00ae4540@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:19:42 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729165935.D5978@pobox.com>

16:59 29.07.2002 -0500 skrev Tushar Samant:

>The third point I would like to make is I am married.

Congratulations! Do you make the Chicken Tikka Masala for your wife?

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 23:30:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA26347
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 23:30:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F08E5E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 6:56:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14056452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 07:01:58 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UB1wv25422 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:01:58 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 78A9B812F; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 04:01:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730110157.78A9B812F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 04:01:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Cat meets rabbit and other gifs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020730092552.030829c8@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 30, 2002  9:26: 4 am"

Espen Ore said:
> 06:57 29.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> >Espen Ore said:
> > > And here is one of my mother and me as we were enjoing ice cream in
> > > downtown Bergen:
> >
> >Ohmigod! Your mother is a great grandmother!
>
> Yes.

Is she taking it well?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 23:31:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA26351
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 23:31:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017B2B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 7:02:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14056463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 07:02:29 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UB2Tv25491 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:02:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EC5CC80B5; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 04:02:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730110228.EC5CC80B5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 04:02:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730094221.A26119@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Jul
              30, 2002  9:42:21 am"

steph said:
> I have a dishwasher with no dial, and you can't click it off.
> Maybe it has a secret thingy somewhere, but I haven't found it.
> You have to let it finish the cycle.

Wow. I've never seen that.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 23:46:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA26368
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 23:46:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017B355@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 7:17:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14056610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 07:17:50 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f93.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.93]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UB7ov25848 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:07:50 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 04:07:45 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:07:44 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2002 11:07:45.0054 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[54C613E0:01C237B9]
Message-ID:  <F93wK2F7swNdUN8fIw50001876b@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:07:44 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

ok, I've read dozens upon dozens of posts now and haveta
say this: GWTP, K*R*N! There's no Fernando. It's *er* or
Oleander.

Fernando is highly annoying.

-rashmi


Betty said:
>At 09:25 AM 7/29/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Marie Ascher said:
> > > >From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
> > > > > That's even better! I can definitely see him as Fernando.
> > > > >
> > > >I guessed Fernando two weeks ago. I said, "Fernando, Geraldo?" and
>you
> > > >said not.
> > >
> > > She got nervous when either aht or I got it right!
> >
> >Phhhbt! No, but you guys seemed to require a name, and Fernando fits.
>
>Oleander

No, he's definitely Fernando. And I'm definitely loopy about
Fernando, even though he has no teeth. He is a very, very nice
person.

_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 23:48:11 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA26372
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 23:48:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F08ED6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 7:13:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14056806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 07:19:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UBJXv26770 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:19:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CA9508201; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 04:19:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730111932.CA9508201@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 04:19:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F93wK2F7swNdUN8fIw50001876b@hotmail.com> from Rashmi Murthy at
              "Jul 30, 2002 11: 7:44 am"

Rashmi Murthy said:
> ok, I've read dozens upon dozens of posts now and haveta
> say this: GWTP, K*R*N! There's no Fernando. It's *er* or
> Oleander.
>
> Fernando is highly annoying.

Sorry, there is no Oleander. Except in my back yard. *er* is
definitely Fernando.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 23:50:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA26376
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 23:50:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F08EEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 7:16:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14056862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 07:22:17 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UBMGv27335 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:22:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 11C1D828D; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 04:22:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730112216.11C1D828D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 04:22:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Of living across the park is that we get tons of foot traffic. I can't
believe it, but there are people out there walking at 6:22AM!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 23:59:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA26384
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 23 Jun 1960 23:59:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F08F2F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 7:24:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14057062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 07:30:48 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UBUmv28077 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:30:48 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-100.panax.com
          [65.114.190.100]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6UBUgn18735 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          07:30:43 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207292150330.28779-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020730072907.00a002d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:30:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730053119.429657EF9@yellow.rahul.net>

>But the truth is, Fernando has decided to dedicate his life to making
>my life better, and let me tell you... That's a full time job in itself.
>Karen

Yes, I know.  That's what I have been doing for Clyde for 33 years
now.  And I'm sure it is what Tushar does for Janeane.  She's a very pretty
woman, Tushar.  As you said, nice eyes.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 00:20:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA26442
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 00:20:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F09012@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 7:46:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14057839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 07:52:19 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UBqJv30622 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:52:19 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4JCJ>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:52:18 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4JC2; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:52:14 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020730092552.030829c8@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020730135146.03066408@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:52:06 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Cat meets rabbit and other gifs
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730110157.78A9B812F@yellow.rahul.net>

04:01 30.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>Espen Ore said:
> > 06:57 29.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> > >Espen Ore said:
> > > > And here is one of my mother and me as we were enjoing ice cream in
> > > > downtown Bergen:
> > >
> > >Ohmigod! Your mother is a great grandmother!
> >
> > Yes.
>
>Is she taking it well?

There is a certain amount of pride.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 00:30:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA26451
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 00:30:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F09087@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 7:55:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14057744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 08:01:19 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f158.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.158]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UBpJv30353 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:51:19 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 04:51:13 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:51:13 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2002 11:51:13.0585 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[67945210:01C237BF]
Message-ID:  <F158ozpHEuIJtCosFIM0001878b@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:51:13 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>= > I can't believe it was too hot to be drinking beer!

>= ???? I can't imagine a temperature for that.

>Well, I am never well hydrated ahead of time.  It was very hot
>and we were walking around in the sun.  All I wanted was water.

Hot as it was in Amsterdam on Saturday, that was pleasant
compared to what it was like when I got out of Philly
airport on Sunday. The humidity really hits you when you've
been away for a while. It's stifling here, very uncomfortable.
(Broad generalization ahead) The water stateside tastes much
better and is more refreshing than that in Europe. It's easier
staying hydrated here.

-rashmi



_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 00:36:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA26479
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 00:36:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F090E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 8:01:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14058038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 08:07:37 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f60.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.60]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UBvav31135 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:57:36 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 04:57:31 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:57:30 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2002 11:57:31.0209 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[48A92B90:01C237C0]
Message-ID:  <F608ZmBMeQLa5DLkd4H00017995@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:57:30 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> > ok, I've read dozens upon dozens of posts now and haveta
> > say this: GWTP, K*R*N! There's no Fernando. It's *er* or
> > Oleander.
> >
> > Fernando is highly annoying.

>Sorry, there is no Oleander. Except in my back yard. *er* is
>definitely Fernando.

okay. It's not terribly difficult for me to avoid it.

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 00:41:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA26487
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 00:41:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017B5EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 8:12:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14058546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 08:12:31 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe64.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.199]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UCCUv32702 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:12:31 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 05:12:25 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3]
References: <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net>           
            <000401c23731$9428eb30$48305b80@EAGLE72>           
            <20020729165935.D5978@pobox.com> 
            <20020730100045.E26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2002 12:12:25.0471 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[5DAEB8F0:01C237C2]
Message-ID:  <OE64eErK24k5MAXrrUe00002f7f@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:10:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bitch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> No one knows about most of us.  It wasn't all that long ago that
> Anne said that they were mostly cooking as opposed to eating out.

And we are saving a ton of money over what we used to spend eating out all
the time. I can't believe Adam's post that it costs more to eat healthily.
In the sense that it takes more time, and time is money, I can agree with
that. But in terms of the cost of meals eaten out vs. home-cooked ones, the
ingredient cost is lower.

Mind you, I'm not talking about weird specialty groceries like what you
Yankees or Californians like to buy. I'm buying things like fresh zuccinni,
not a pound of microgreens.

One of the funniest by-products is that our trash bin has gotten so heavy.
It used to be like nothing when I wheeled it to the curb each week. Now it
is a real wrencher getting the wheels started.

-aht

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 01:06:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26519
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 01:06:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F09287@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 8:31:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14059448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 08:37:38 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UCbcv02865 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:37:38 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws101-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.101]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6UCbY710617
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:37:34 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207292144570.28477-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D468889.43E926E4@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:37:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> Good.  Because some damned thing bit me on my right leg just below the
> calf and above the ankle, and it is swollen BIG and it itches too and it's
> hot and hard - heh heh my leg, that is - snork - SORRY

Sounds like the place left by the tiny creature that burrowed in between
my boobs last spring.  The place still drives me crazy much of the time,
although the squareinchage of red is smaller now and there are some days
when the itching isn't as bad as usual.

Aloe vera doesn't seem to help that place, but it sure took care of the
wasp sting.  I'd forgotten about it until now.  And speaking of wet
hornets, I was thinking later last night that that's not right -- it's
wet hens that are mad, not wet hornets.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 01:11:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26529
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 01:11:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F092DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 8:36:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14059600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 08:42:25 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UCgOv03358 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:42:25 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws101-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.101]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6UCgM711872
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:42:23 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
            <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net>
            <20020729112538.B23549@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net> <3D45CFF2.3DD4A421@maynor.net>
            <3D45FEFC.1030203@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4689AD.BA0E9496@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:42:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> And we all feel sorry for you.  I can only believe that
> umpteen thousands of cigarettes have completely killed off
> your taste buds, because you eat even worse than I do.

This is what I mean -- the first sentence above.  Feeling sorry for
somebody who's not into eating makes no more sense to me than feeling
sorry for somebody who's not into hunting or golfing or bingo-playing or
doll-collecting or any other personal pleasure one might have.

Re eating "worse" -- I think my eating is not bad at all.  Although I
violate my knowledge of nutrition at times, I'm pretty conscientious
about it overall.  I think I've mentioned before that I see people in
the cafeteria regularly with what I consider very strange food -- like
nothing green at all.  There's no way I'll ever move past my childhood
ways of being made to believe that not eating green everyday made you
die that night.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 01:12:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26538
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 01:12:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F09304@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 8:38:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14059691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 08:44:13 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UCiDv03591 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:44:13 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws101-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.101]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6UCiB712265
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:44:11 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020730050021.44C4983C5@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D468A1A.30ACD86B@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:44:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Can't you just progress the dial?

Hmm.  I don't think I've ever tried that.  I'll do so sometime and
report on what happens -- this will be post-Finland -- I'm not likely to
use the dishwasher before then.

> > In any case, my dishes are never dry by the next morning.
>
> Hm. I wonder why.

I don't know, but the same has been true in my previous house and in
this house -- different dishwashers of different brands.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 01:14:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26542
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 01:14:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0931C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 8:39:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14059726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 08:45:33 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UCjXv03718 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:45:33 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws101-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.101]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6UCjT712561
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:45:29 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020730051824.F1DF789FE@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D468A68.FC3E942D@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:45:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > ?? Beans and rice are lean protein, aren't they?
>
> They are carbohydrates.

I thought they were considered one of the best combinations for
providing the <right> proteins.  Are they not?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 01:16:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26551
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 01:16:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F09346@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 8:41:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14059792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 08:47:46 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UClkv03986 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:47:46 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws101-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.101]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6UClh713184
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:47:43 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net>
            <20020729112538.B23549@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net> <3D45CFF2.3DD4A421@maynor.net>
            <20020730100502.G26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D468AEE.66C1CEEC@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:47:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

steph wrote:
>
> = nutrition> was considered to be.  But the idea of cooking and eating for
> = <fun> wasn't ever considered.
> this explains the store bought cake!

Not unless the same attitudes toward cooking existed among all the
people in my schools.  Being a conformist, my mother would have come
through and created some kind of birthday cake if that had been the
expected routine for bday parties in my childhood.  But it wasn't.  It
would've been way weird, and my parents were never into way weird.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 01:18:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26559
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 01:18:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0937C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 8:43:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14059943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 08:49:42 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UCnfv04310 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:49:41 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws101-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.101]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6UCnd713596
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:49:39 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020730112216.11C1D828D@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D468B62.439F4FA@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:49:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Of living across the park is that we get tons of foot traffic. I can't
> believe it, but there are people out there walking at 6:22AM!

I don't understand what you find unbelievable.  Wouldn't 6:22 a.m. be
pretty much <prime time> for walkers?   It seems to be so here.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 01:18:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26563
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 01:18:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017B8CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 8:50:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14059966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 08:50:08 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe74.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.209]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UCo7v04373 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:50:07 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 05:50:02 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2002 12:50:02.0340 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[9EE19A40:01C237C7]
Message-ID:  <OE74eQ6ThLjmSFXLNms00003015@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:50:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      RIP Russian Tea Room
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"In a year when the city has lost so much, it's sad to see
the Tea Room, one of its happiest places, close."

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/30/opinion/30COLL.html?ex=1029032871&ei=1&en=
f516c98d107374de



AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 01:26:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26578
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 01:26:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F09418@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 8:51:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14060329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 08:57:32 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UCvWv05178 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:57:32 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-79.panax.com [63.163.41.79])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UCvXn03567 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:57:33 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net>
            <000401c23731$9428eb30$48305b80@EAGLE72>
            <20020729165935.D5978@pobox.com>
            <20020730100045.E26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020730084830.00b19b08@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:57:29 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bitch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE64eErK24k5MAXrrUe00002f7f@hotmail.com>

At 07:10 AM 7/30/2002 -0500, aht wrote:

>And we are saving a ton of money over what we used to spend eating out all
>the time. I can't believe Adam's post that it costs more to eat healthily.
>In the sense that it takes more time, and time is money, I can agree with
>that. But in terms of the cost of meals eaten out vs. home-cooked ones, the
>ingredient cost is lower.

I'm not sure that Adam was considering an eat-in/eat-out dichotomy; my
impression is that he was disagreeing with my contention that it costs no
more (maybe less) to cook "healthily" than to consume all of the junk that
one can buy in a supermarket.  Of course in that regard, he clearly is
wrong.  Then Rashmi weighed in with the cogent observation that access to
good, i.e., healthy, ingredients is a key factor.  Beyond that and Tushar's
laments on the relationship between cuisine and cultural collapse, I'm not
certain where the discussion went.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 01:31:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26595
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 01:31:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F094BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 8:57:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14061062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:02:56 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UD2tv07262 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:02:55 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc55 ([204.127.198.44]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020730130247.ZHKF24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:02:47 +0000
Received: from [63.110.228.250] by rwcrwbc55; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:02:46 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020730130247.ZHKF24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:02:46 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bitch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Skrev abht:
> I can't believe Adam's post that it costs more to eat healthily.
> In the sense that it takes more time, and time is money, I can agree with
> that. But in terms of the cost of meals eaten out vs. home-cooked ones, the
> ingredient cost is lower.

I didn't mean about eating out. I meant buying primary ingredients - lean meat,
fresh fruits and veggies - versus buying convenience foods like frozen pizza,
chicken nuggets, frozen meatballs, etc.

Whatever one eats at home is usually cheaper than eating out, even if one chooses
to eat crap food at home.

And sorry for formatting; I hate ATTBI's web mail interface. It sux.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 01:41:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26599
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 01:41:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0959F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 9:06:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14061685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:12:24 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UDCOv08983 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:12:24 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-79.panax.com [63.163.41.79])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UDCPn06213 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:12:25 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D45CFF2.3DD4A421@maynor.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net>
            <20020729112538.B23549@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net> <3D45CFF2.3DD4A421@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020730090338.00b42568@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:12:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020729205024.I5978@pobox.com>

At 08:50 PM 7/29/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:
>  Basically, a culture where food has a seductive dimension

...you must never have seen the movie "Tom Jones"...

>and chefs are superstars or prima donnas is a gross, rotting culture,
>and a horrible parody of the real thing.

Well, ever since (and maybe before) Catherine de Medici married Henry II of
France (1533) and brought along her own chefs---thereby significantly
upgrading French cuisine---chefs have been highly regarded in Western culture.

I will agree that some of the hero-worship and
self-aggrandizement---sometimes prominent features of the Food Channel---is
a parody (stronger terms also come to mind).  On the other hand, some of
these "chefs" are only doing what authors, musicians, actors, politicians,
etc. have been doing for ages.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 01:46:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26627
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 01:46:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017BB56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 9:17:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14062050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:17:26 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UDHQv10078 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:17:26 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0200A1BCX13G@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:17:26 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D43DB4E.AED035B1@maynor.net>
            <20020728150926.93FB584FC@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020728090008.00a44490@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728110547.A16066@pobox.com>
            <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net>
            <20020729112538.B23549@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net> <3D45CFF2.3DD4A421@maynor.net>
            <3D45FEFC.1030203@swbell.net> <3D4689AD.BA0E9496@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D469183.90903@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:15:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>And we all feel sorry for you.  I can only believe that
>>umpteen thousands of cigarettes have completely killed off
>>your taste buds, because you eat even worse than I do.
>>
>
> This is what I mean -- the first sentence above.  Feeling sorry for
> somebody who's not into eating makes no more sense to me than feeling
> sorry for somebody who's not into hunting or golfing or bingo-playing or
> doll-collecting or any other personal pleasure one might have.


Because it involves one of your senses, which has no other
way to be stimulated.  I'd also feel bad for you if you
chose never to smell a flower, etc. Of course, the umpteen
zillion cigarettes have probably killed that sense, too.  It
strikes me as a poverty.


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 01:47:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26631
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 01:47:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F09633@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 9:12:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14062128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:18:36 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UDIav10255 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:18:36 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust92.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.94]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005617950@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:18:34 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020730052736.16A097C4C@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4692B0.6806418E@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:20:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> I don't think cleaning helps. But yes, it sounds like a spider bite. I
> was convinced I had gangrene the last time I had one.

I remind you of my tarantula bite. The itching was unbearable, and the
skin began to disappear. Only by luck did I learn (after several days)
what had bitten me so I got the proper antitoxin. Without it, I do not
know what would have happened.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 01:48:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26635
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 01:48:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017BB92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 9:19:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14062227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:19:35 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UDJZv10429 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:19:35 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust92.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.94]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004302480@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:19:33 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020729205024.I5978@pobox.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207292144570.28477-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <20020730002814.B79357@pobox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4692EB.E060A5EB@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:21:47 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Borkin wrote:
>
> > Anyway, if I got this bite on the deck I'm ok with that.  But I think I
> > got it in bed.

The tarantula bit me in bed.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 01:58:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26650
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 01:58:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F09777@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 9:23:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14062230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:29:39 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UDJdv10436 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:19:39 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6UDJdK3028022 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:19:39 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207300917370.19265-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:19:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <104.194997b7.2a775a97@aol.com>

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>Instead of using speakers, the theater broadcasts the sound over an
>FM frequency.  You just turn your radio to that frequency and listen.

My gosh - I really am out of it! I did not know that. I last went to a
drive-in about 1957, probably. It was mostly a high school thing for me.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 02:01:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26683
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 02:01:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F097D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 9:26:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14062430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:32:38 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UDMbv10923 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:22:37 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2176A6D for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:22:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6UDMR448592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:22:27
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207292150330.28779-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <20020730053119.429657EF9@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020730072907.00a002d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730082227.A45397@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:22:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020730072907.00a002d0@pop3.norton.antivirus>; from
              bonniev@PANAX.COM on Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 07:30:24AM -0400

On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 07:30:24AM -0400, bonniev wrote:
> Yes, I know.  That's what I have been doing for Clyde for 33 years
> now.  And I'm sure it is what Tushar does for Janeane.  She's a very
> pretty woman, Tushar.  As you said, nice eyes.

This thread is over.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 02:03:55 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26687
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 02:03:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F09811@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 9:29:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14062712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:35:14 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UDPEv11469 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:25:14 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCF66303 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:25:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6UDPAk49787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:25:10
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <F1710Ja8v9lZfkI1ylz00017e45@hotmail.com>
            <20020730095314.D26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730082510.B45397@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:25:10 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730095314.D26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>; from
              stevie@MULTINIX.COM on Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 09:53:14AM +0200

On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 09:53:14AM +0200, steph wrote:
> Cafetieria food may nourish your body, but it's a long haul for
> nourishing the soul.

Hm, you may be further gone than I thought!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 02:15:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26707
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 02:15:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F09917@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 9:41:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14063620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:47:07 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UDb6v13808 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:37:07 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372D56166 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:37:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6UDb6w56039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:37:06
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <4.2.2.20020728092245.00a41890@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <20020728184851.A22084@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020728123258.A16943@pobox.com>
            <20020728221333.A22393@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D445082.9000706@swbell.net>
            <20020729112538.B23549@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net> <3D45CFF2.3DD4A421@maynor.net>
            <20020729205024.I5978@pobox.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020730090338.00b42568@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730083706.C45397@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:37:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020730090338.00b42568@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 09:12:19AM -0400

On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 09:12:19AM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> At 08:50 PM 7/29/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:
> >  Basically, a culture where food has a seductive dimension
>
> ...you must never have seen the movie "Tom Jones"...

Great guess, Dr Voigtlander.

> >and chefs are superstars or prima donnas is a gross, rotting culture,
> >and a horrible parody of the real thing.
>
> Well, ever since (and maybe before) Catherine de Medici married Henry II
> of France (1533) and brought along her own chefs---thereby significantly
> upgrading French cuisine---chefs have been highly regarded in Western
> culture.

I don't understand why you speak so authoritatively about "western
culture". A lot of cool and non-rotting things happened after 1533;
just because a few no-life fat asses were eating in a corner doesn't
change the fact.

> I will agree that some of the hero-worship and
> self-aggrandizement---sometimes prominent features of the Food Channel---

It's not just the Food Channel. It's entrenched:

> is a parody (stronger terms also come to mind).  On the other hand,
> some of these "chefs" are only doing what authors, musicians, actors,
> politicians, etc. have been doing for ages.

You see how easily you come up with this outlandish comparison. Authors,
musicians, politicians, and ... chefs? Don't make me laugh. How about
fashion designers? Oh, I see the nose wrinkling ...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 02:16:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26711
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 02:16:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F09925@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 9:41:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14063636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:47:49 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UDbkv13893 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:37:46 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520A76A0D for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:37:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6UDbkL56064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:37:46
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net>
            <000401c23731$9428eb30$48305b80@EAGLE72>
            <20020729165935.D5978@pobox.com>
            <20020730100045.E26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730083746.D45397@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:37:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730100045.E26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>; from
              stevie@MULTINIX.COM on Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 10:00:45AM +0200

On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 10:00:45AM +0200, steph wrote:
> = The third point I would like to make is I am married.
> =
>
> Elaborate.

Let it go!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 02:17:40 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26715
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 02:17:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F09933@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 9:43:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14064191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:48:59 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UDmwv15461 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:48:58 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust92.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.94]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004303009@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:48:57 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIEIIGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4699CF.DE4CDC48@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:51:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Adam at the concert
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:
> Not to be impolite, I know they were the style at the time, lots of women
> probably wore them, but let's just say I'm glad I wasn't alive then and thus
> didn't have to endure looking at them on a daily basis.

Now I will have to go upstairs to see the picture. I have no idea what
you are talking about. I am amazed, though, that you remember my
sister's name and that you would have observed a picture so closely.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 02:20:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26719
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 02:20:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0997D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 9:45:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14064388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:51:45 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UDpiv15814 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:51:44 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6UDwOT27036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:58:24
          +0200
References: <F1710Ja8v9lZfkI1ylz00017e45@hotmail.com>
            <20020730095314.D26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730082510.B45397@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730155824.A26999@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:58:24 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730082510.B45397@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on
              Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 08:25:10AM -0500

On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 08:25:10AM -0500, Tushar Samant wrote:
= On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 09:53:14AM +0200, steph wrote:
= > Cafetieria food may nourish your body, but it's a long haul for
= > nourishing the soul.
=
= Hm, you may be further gone than I thought!

Which side of this argument are you on, bucko?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 02:21:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26726
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 02:21:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F09994@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 9:47:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14064467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:53:17 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UDrHv16054 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:53:17 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6UDxvD27054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:59:57
          +0200
References: <3D458E6F.8000005@swbell.net>
            <000401c23731$9428eb30$48305b80@EAGLE72>
            <20020729165935.D5978@pobox.com>
            <20020730100045.E26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <OE64eErK24k5MAXrrUe00002f7f@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730155957.B26999@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:59:57 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bitch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE64eErK24k5MAXrrUe00002f7f@hotmail.com>; from
              toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM on Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 07:10:53AM -0500

=
= One of the funniest by-products is that our trash bin has gotten so heavy.
= It used to be like nothing when I wheeled it to the curb each week. Now it
= is a real wrencher getting the wheels started.
=
= -aht

Now, this I don't understand, unless all the food is
overpackaged.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 02:50:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26761
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 02:50:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017C19D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:22:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14066717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 10:22:10 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UEMAv21287 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:22:10 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6UEM9E20374 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          09:22:09 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <F93wK2F7swNdUN8fIw50001876b@hotmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <006f01c237d4$b9b47100$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:23:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

-
> say this: GWTP, K*R*N! There's no Fernando. It's *er* or
> Oleander.
>
> Fernando is highly annoying.
>
> -rashmi

Let's just call him Fern.

          - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 03:05:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26785
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 03:05:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F09FFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:30:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14067510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 10:36:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UEaOv23036 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:36:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6715C864F; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 07:36:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730143623.6715C864F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:36:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F608ZmBMeQLa5DLkd4H00017995@hotmail.com> from Rashmi Murthy at
              "Jul 30, 2002 11:57:30 am"

Rashmi Murthy said:
> okay. It's not terribly difficult for me to avoid it.

I know you would like him if you met him. Animals and small children
flock to him. Last night I met some more people he has known for over
25 years. (As opposed to My New Friend, whose most enduring
relationship was a year and a half.) Really--Fernando is A Good
Thing.

Hangovers, however are Bad Things.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 03:06:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26792
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 03:06:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0A028@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:31:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14067650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 10:37:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UEbmv23288 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:37:48 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C266A8626; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 07:37:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730143747.C266A8626@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:37:47 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bitch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE64eErK24k5MAXrrUe00002f7f@hotmail.com> from Anne H Toal at
              "Jul 30, 2002  7:10:53 am"

Anne H Toal said:
> Mind you, I'm not talking about weird specialty groceries like what you
> Yankees or Californians like to buy. I'm buying things like fresh zuccinni,
> not a pound of microgreens.

What are microgreens?

> One of the funniest by-products is that our trash bin has gotten so heavy.
> It used to be like nothing when I wheeled it to the curb each week. Now it
> is a real wrencher getting the wheels started.

One word:  compost.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 03:10:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26939
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 03:10:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0A0DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:35:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14068133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 10:41:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UEfbv24161 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:41:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D73EC7FC6; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 07:40:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730144054.D73EC7FC6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:40:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D468A1A.30ACD86B@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 30,
              2002  7:44:10 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> > > In any case, my dishes are never dry by the next morning.
> >
> > Hm. I wonder why.
>
> I don't know, but the same has been true in my previous house and in
> this house -- different dishwashers of different brands.

If I use the dry cycle, mine are dry. If I interrupt the dry cycle,
and open dishwasher (prop it open about 6 inches by moving the upper
shelf forward), they are dry by morning. I learned this trick from my
Mom, whose dishes were always dry.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 03:13:56 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27843
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 03:13:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0A14F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:39:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14068468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 10:45:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UEj8v25047 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:45:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 548097F16; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 07:45:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730144507.548097F16@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:45:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4692B0.6806418E@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 30,
              2002  9:20:48 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I don't think cleaning helps. But yes, it sounds like a spider bite. I
> > was convinced I had gangrene the last time I had one.
>
> I remind you of my tarantula bite. The itching was unbearable, and the
> skin began to disappear. Only by luck did I learn (after several days)
> what had bitten me so I got the proper antitoxin. Without it, I do not
> know what would have happened.

Mine cleared up on its own. There are wild tarantulas here, though.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 03:16:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27855
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 03:16:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017C46F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:47:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14068635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 10:47:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UElMv25368 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:47:22 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AE0298307; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 07:47:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730144721.AE0298307@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:47:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Why?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Why does Dannon yogurt separate, and why does the Iranian yogurt I
bought yesterday not?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 03:16:42 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27859
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 03:16:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0A195@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:42:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14068648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 10:47:52 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UElpv25403 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:47:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 35F398307; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 07:47:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730144751.35F398307@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:47:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <006f01c237d4$b9b47100$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 30, 2002  9:23:36 am"

Doris Markland said:
> -
> > say this: GWTP, K*R*N! There's no Fernando. It's *er* or
> > Oleander.
> >
> > Fernando is highly annoying.
> >
> > -rashmi
>
> Let's just call him Fern.

No.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 03:27:28 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA28232
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 03:27:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0A2CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:52:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14069477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 10:58:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UEwiv27051 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:58:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5B1218136; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 07:58:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730145838.5B1218136@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:58:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D468B62.439F4FA@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 30,
              2002  7:49:38 am"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Of living across the park is that we get tons of foot traffic. I can't
> > believe it, but there are people out there walking at 6:22AM!
>
> I don't understand what you find unbelievable.  Wouldn't 6:22 a.m. be
> pretty much <prime time> for walkers?   It seems to be so here.

It's hard to define 'prime time'. They are out there all the time. One
woman does two walks a day (that I know of). They must be like an hour
each.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 03:41:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA28267
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 03:41:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017C737@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:13:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14070702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:13:04 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UFD4v30036 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:13:04 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-76.panax.com
          [65.114.190.76]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6UFD0n29420 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          11:13:00 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D468A1A.30ACD86B@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020730111214.00a027a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:12:53 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730144054.D73EC7FC6@yellow.rahul.net>

>If I use the dry cycle, mine are dry. If I interrupt the dry cycle,
>and open dishwasher (prop it open about 6 inches by moving the upper
>shelf forward), they are dry by morning. I learned this trick from my
>Mom, whose dishes were always dry.
>Karen

Possibly neither your house nor your Mom's house was as humid at night as
the houses in which Natalie lives.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 03:42:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA28274
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 03:42:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0A489@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:07:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14069987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:13:42 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UF3gv28292 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:03:42 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909B66DB2 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:03:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6UF3bf72594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:03:37
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <F1710Ja8v9lZfkI1ylz00017e45@hotmail.com>
            <20020730095314.D26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730082510.B45397@pobox.com>
            <20020730155824.A26999@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730100337.A72000@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:03:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730155824.A26999@yoccoz.multinix.com>; from
              stevie@MULTINIX.COM on Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 03:58:24PM +0200

On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 03:58:24PM +0200, steph wrote:
>
> = > Cafetieria food may nourish your body, but it's a long haul for
> = > nourishing the soul.
> =
> = Hm, you may be further gone than I thought!
>
> Which side of this argument are you on, bucko?

Argument, "Steph"? There is no argument. Come on, then! I simply claim
that something is very wrong when mere food spoken of as "nourishing
the soul". Leads me to exclaim "pah", begging your pardon. Now allow
me to forward a hypothesis of a personal nature, no confirmation needed
of course. I see your childhood as being relatively deficient in good
and bounteous food. Meals were perhaps rather boring, merely functional.
My experience has been so uniform in this respect that tall claims about
food bring no other theory to my mind.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 03:43:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA28278
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 03:43:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0A4AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:08:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14070936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:14:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UFEJv30463 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:14:19 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E3A1A829E; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 08:14:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730151418.E3A1A829E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:14:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020730111214.00a027a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 30, 2002 11:12:53 am"

bonniev said:
> Possibly neither your house nor your Mom's house was as humid at night as
> the houses in which Natalie lives.

Well, the air has something like 73% humidity today. And Natalie puts
her A/C on colder than I do.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 03:44:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA28286
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 03:44:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0A4D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:10:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14071096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:16:09 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UFG9v30999 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:16:09 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A8F5B8310; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 08:16:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730151608.A8F5B8310@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:16:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730100337.A72000@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Jul 30,
              2002 10: 3:37 am"

Tushar Samant said:
> I simply claim that something is very wrong when mere food spoken of
> as "nourishing the soul". Leads me to exclaim "pah", begging your
> pardon. Now allow me to forward a hypothesis of a personal nature,
> no confirmation needed of course. I see your childhood as being
> relatively deficient in good and bounteous food. Meals were perhaps
> rather boring, merely functional.  My experience has been so uniform
> in this respect that tall claims about food bring no other theory to
> my mind.

I think it's the uniformity that's causing the problem for you.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 03:49:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA28299
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 03:49:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0A5E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:15:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14071977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:21:13 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UFLDv32688 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:21:13 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6UFL9m25803 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:21:09 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207301020200.25676-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:21:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730003910.C79357@pobox.com>

On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:
> IMO this post is saying something very different than it seems to,
> by means of a steganographed subtext channel. It is simply saying
> who gives a rat's ass, Dr Borkin is fairly pleased to hear from
> the T Man.
>
> Discuss

What's to discuss!  It is so pitifully true.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 03:50:41 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA28308
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 03:50:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0A5F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:16:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14072037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:21:58 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UFLvv00353 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:21:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 789FC81AD; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 08:21:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730152156.789FC81AD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:21:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Dog movie for Natalie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Snow Dogs.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 03:51:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA28312
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 03:51:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0A61A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:16:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14072135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:22:23 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UFMMv00484 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:22:22 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6UFMKi25869 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:22:20 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207301021250.25676-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:22:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730002814.B79357@pobox.com>

On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:

> Is it hurting a lot?

Not really.

> Why, when you can LEAP FROM HIGH-RISE TO HIGH-RISE? Snare a bus or
> train at will. Play a bridge like a harp.

I shall be healed!

Thank you

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 03:52:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA28320
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 03:52:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017C898@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:23:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14072198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:23:17 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UFNHv00676 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:23:17 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6UFNGE04558 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          10:23:16 -0500 (CDT)
References: <F210MIxccbNmCOYpN7U0000168f@hotmail.com> 
            <20020730083905.A26035@yoccoz.multinix.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <00c301c237dd$44a59e80$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:24:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> =
> = PS How's Patrick's sunburn?
> =
>
> Oh, it wasn't really much of a burn at all.  It had gone all
> brown by the next morning.  Same for my nose - it was brown by
> the time I went to bed.
>
> I can't believe it was too hot to be drinking beer!
>
> steph


But a good day for brown nosing.

             - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 04:07:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA28341
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 04:07:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0A851@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:32:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14073396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:38:46 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UFckv03133 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:38:46 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6UFciE26748 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:38:44 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207301036390.26544-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:38:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4692EB.E060A5EB@valstar.net>

On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

> Borkin wrote:
> >
> > > Anyway, if I got this bite on the deck I'm ok with that.  But I think I
> > > got it in bed.
>
> The tarantula bit me in bed.

Y I E E E E E E E E

I am warned. I'm watching this closely - so far no skin removal

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 04:12:31 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA28357
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 04:12:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017CB1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:43:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14073821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:43:47 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UFhlv04369 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:43:47 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-76.panax.com
          [65.114.190.76]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6UFRkn31648 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          11:27:46 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020730111214.00a027a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020730112713.00a039c0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:27:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730151418.E3A1A829E@yellow.rahul.net>

>Well, the air has something like 73% humidity today. And Natalie puts
>her A/C on colder than I do.     --Karen

I thought Natalie turned off all artificial cooling and heating at night.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 04:16:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA28376
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 04:16:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017CB95@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:48:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14074163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:48:03 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UFm3v05325 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:48:03 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust209.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.211]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005620880@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:48:02 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207301036390.26544-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D46B5B7.516F62C4@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:50:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:
>
> I am warned. I'm watching this closely - so far no skin removal

The bite area kept getting bigger and bigger, like flesh-eating disease.

Now I am wondering about Karen having "wild" tarantulas. Are these
different from the tame ones?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 04:20:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA28380
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 04:20:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017CC00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:52:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14074415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:52:04 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UFq3v05958 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:52:04 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0200J1NK2RBQ@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:52:03 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020730145838.5B1218136@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D46B5C0.3090003@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:50:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Natalie Maynor said:
>
>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>
>>>Of living across the park is that we get tons of foot traffic. I can't
>>>believe it, but there are people out there walking at 6:22AM!
>>>
>>I don't understand what you find unbelievable.  Wouldn't 6:22 a.m. be
>>pretty much <prime time> for walkers?   It seems to be so here.
>>
>
> It's hard to define 'prime time'. They are out there all the time. One
> woman does two walks a day (that I know of). They must be like an hour
> each.



The streets around here are downright crowded during prime
time (early morning, after supper).  I try to go running
around 8pm because by then things have died down a little --
before that I have to go around people all the time because
I have Vinnie tied to my waist.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 04:29:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA28395
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 04:29:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0AA0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:54:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14074940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 12:00:52 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UG0pv07258 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:00:52 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2C11D85E9; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:00:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730160051.2C11D85E9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:00:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020730112713.00a039c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 30, 2002 11:27:39 am"

bonniev said:
> >Well, the air has something like 73% humidity today. And Natalie puts
> >her A/C on colder than I do.     --Karen
>
> I thought Natalie turned off all artificial cooling and heating at night.

Oh.

That would do it. It's too hot to do that now.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 04:31:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA28409
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 04:31:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017CD04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:03:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14075014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 12:03:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UG33v07522 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:03:03 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 93A4785EC; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:03:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730160302.93A4785EC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:03:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D46B5B7.516F62C4@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 30,
              2002 11:50:15 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Now I am wondering about Karen having "wild" tarantulas. Are these
> different from the tame ones?

Some of them are probably ones that someone bought as a pet and let
go. What I meant was that they live in the wild--outside, not in a
cage.

Btw, I *finally* figured out what these stupid plants around my trees
are--they are *cannas*. They've never bloomed, until this week,  one
of them bloomed. I thought cannas required sun--these are in complete
shade.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 04:36:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA28422
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 04:36:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0AA77@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:01:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14075243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 12:07:49 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UG7nv08189 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:07:49 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust209.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.211]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004305707@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 12:07:48 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020730160302.93A4785EC@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D46BA59.38F1CE4F@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:10:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> Btw, I *finally* figured out what these stupid plants around my trees
> are--they are *cannas*. They've never bloomed, until this week,  one
> of them bloomed. I thought cannas required sun--these are in complete
> shade.
>
Ha! Those don't winter over up here. Have to dig them up each year, a
drag.

alyce
> Karen


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 04:39:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA28429
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 04:39:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0AAA5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:04:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14075407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 12:10:16 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UGAFv08697 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:10:16 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3F14F80F3; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 09:10:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730161015.3F14F80F3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:10:15 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D46BA59.38F1CE4F@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 30,
              2002 12:10: 1 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Ha! Those don't winter over up here. Have to dig them up each year, a
> drag.

Indeed. They are almost an infestation here--they are everywhere. Now
I know what they are, I may stop digging them up.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 05:11:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28482
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 05:11:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017D13D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:42:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14078718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 12:42:40 -0400
Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6UGgev16253 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          12:42:40 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6UGgdQ210014 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul
          2002 12:42:39 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEPFFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:41:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F93wK2F7swNdUN8fIw50001876b@hotmail.com>

> No, he's definitely Fernando. And I'm definitely loopy about
> Fernando, even though he has no teeth. He is a very, very nice
> person.

He may be a bit of a foodie, but watching him gum it can't be much of a turn
on.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 05:11:57 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28495
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 05:11:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017D14D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:43:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14078804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 12:43:11 -0400
Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6UGhBv16487 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          12:43:11 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6UGhAQ268414 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul
          2002 12:43:10 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEPFFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:41:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4692EB.E060A5EB@valstar.net>

> The tarantula bit me in bed.
>
> alyce

That is the stuff of nightmares.

Go eat something, Alyce.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 05:15:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28508
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 05:15:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0AEB2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:40:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14079093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 12:46:38 -0400
Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6UGkcv17035 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          12:46:38 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6UGkaQ139176 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul
          2002 12:46:37 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEPFFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:45:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      For Evelyn
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Driven Teen Passes Up Career
At Sears for a More Normal Life

By CALMETTA COLEMAN
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL


First loves don't always last.

Four years ago, 18-year-old Jennifer Schulte was virtually wedded to her job
at Sears, Roebuck & Co. Working in the back office of a store in Omaha,
Neb., she was one of just eight teenage office supervisors at the giant
retailer. While her schoolmates clocked in at part-time jobs just to earn
gas money, she hoped to rise through the ranks at Sears. She spent just as
much time working as she did attending high-school classes.

All around her, adults worried that she was too young for so much
responsibility. Teachers counseled her about burnout. Her mother feared she
was setting her sights too high. Her father wanted her to have more fun.

"She was too wrapped up in Sears," John Schulte, her father, says.

But Miss Schulte loved the job. At Sears, she handled customer-credit
problems, oversaw the flow of customer orders and paid store bills. Seven
people reported to her. On top of that, she graduated from high school with
honors and a stack of scholarships.

She expected to keep up the same pace in college. In her first semester, she
signed up for 15 credit hours and worked about 30 hours a week. But
scheduling work around classes and study time was a lot tougher than it had
been in high school. Making new friends was even harder.

"People thought I was 30 because I would come to class in business suits.
Nobody would talk to me," Miss Schulte recalls.

Before long it all seemed worth it. Her boss presented her with an
opportunity to move to Chicago for a job at the company's headquarters -- a
chance that had been her dream.

>From the time she was 16, work at Sears had been a big priority. She chose
Sears over her high-school volleyball team, hanging with friends, some
family vacations, and a boyfriend who wanted more of her time. She also
decided to attend college at local Creighton University largely so she could
keep her job at Sears.

Now she wondered: Should Sears still be her first choice?

A full-time job at Sears's home office would mean finishing college at
night. So she quit Sears.

Now 22, she works as a bartender while going to college. "It's fast money
and an easy job," she says.

A spokeswoman for Sears, based in Hoffman Estates, Ill., says there is no
record of the retailer making a formal offer to Miss Schulte. But she adds
that it isn't uncommon for a store manager to steer young employees to jobs
at the corporate headquarters.

Mr. Schulte says his daughter quickly learned she couldn't breeze through
college the way she did high school. "I remember the first semester, she got
a D or something and said, 'I'll go talk to [the professor.]' I said, 'Yeah,
right.' " The teacher didn't change the grade, he says. Miss Schulte says
she doesn't remember that incident, and that she did "fine" in her first
year of college.

After her freshman year, she transferred from Creighton to the University of
Nebraska at Omaha. She's made plenty of friends and roomed with several of
them before moving out on her own recently. She dates, but isn't seeing
anyone steady.

She no longer puts in long hours at work. She tends bar at the Homy Inn
tavern just one day a week during the school year and more frequently during
the summer. Terry Finkle, the tavern owner, says she's a standout worker.
She's the youngest employee and often has people answering to her. "If I'm
not around, she's in charge of everything," Mr. Finkle says.

Once certain she wanted to be chief executive officer of Sears, Miss
Schulte's career goals now mirror those of most people her age: She isn't
certain what she wants to do. She's pursuing a degree in public
administration and is preparing to start her fifth year of college.

She spends much of her time volunteering and says she might like working for
a nonprofit organization. This summer she is helping to raise money for a
group that teaches children vocational skills. She also recently got a taste
of lobbying during a trip to Washington with the Planned Parenthood
Federation of America. "Who knows? Maybe I'll be a lobbyist," she says.

Mr. Schulte says his daughter will figure it all out in due time. He too was
a five-year college student. He says, "Quite honestly, I'm telling her,
'Don't think about it. Just get your damn degree.' "

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 05:52:48 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28569
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 05:52:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000030@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:24:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14082069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 13:24:00 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f199.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.199]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UHO0v24693 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:24:00 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 10:23:54 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 17:23:54 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2002 17:23:54.0987 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[E1808BB0:01C237ED]
Message-ID:  <F199WdWhkeLZssJbBVV000215e4@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:23:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bitch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Anne H Toal <toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM>>One of the funniest by-products is
>that our trash bin has gotten so heavy.
>It used to be like nothing when I wheeled it to the curb each week.

Compost.

Not that I do, but I think about it.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 06:02:35 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28588
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 06:02:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000072@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:33:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14082863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 13:33:47 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f200.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.200]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UHXlv26353 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:33:47 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 10:33:41 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 17:33:41 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2002 17:33:41.0561 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[3F20A290:01C237EF]
Message-ID:  <F200AbNF44VEm0Gcr8500000fdc@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:33:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Adam at the concert
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Adam Hartfield wrote:
> > driving at night after exhausting days. I've done that before (hi
>Marie!)
> > and it was a miracle I got where I was going.
>

I had no idea we were living a miracle! I still contend that driving with
Myles swerving all over the road watching the birds was the most dangerous
wordsler trip I ever took. Oh, no, wait! Was it Karen almost killing me
TWICE!? Dag, it's a good thing I got my license back.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 06:08:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28592
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 06:08:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017D70A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:39:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14083324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 13:39:46 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f217.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.217]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UHdjv27392 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:39:46 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 10:39:40 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 17:39:40 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2002 17:39:40.0383 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[150086F0:01C237F0]
Message-ID:  <F217T5hwwL2c82hBkCq00021637@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:39:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
>nutrition> was considered to be.  But the idea of cooking and eating for
><fun> wasn't ever considered.

I went to a WW meeting today and the leader was talking about how we should
stop filling our lives with food and seek forms of entertainment. I was
thinking, "but what if we find food to BE entertainment" ??

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 06:10:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28599
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 06:10:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0B249@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:36:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14083565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 13:42:01 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f105.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.105]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UHg1v27861 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:42:01 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 10:41:55 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 17:41:55 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2002 17:41:55.0967 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[65D100F0:01C237F0]
Message-ID:  <F105Kfyx1vOXjyr9ngH000214f7@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:41:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>>
>HA. I seem to recall X-rated films used to be shown at some drive-ins, like
>during the Deep Throat/Flesh Gordon era ... not that I went.

I remember Deep Throat was playing at the drive-in in my area. Which was
right across the street from the mall, the screen positioned as visible from
Route 1. More than once I saw some very <interesting> scenes.

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 06:15:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28619
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 06:15:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0B2A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:40:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14083880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 13:46:22 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f27.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.27]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UHkMv28538 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:46:22 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 10:46:16 -0700
Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 17:46:16 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2002 17:46:16.0947 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[015F6430:01C237F1]
Message-ID:  <F27z9jyMRfQPNv5Rsxz000217be@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:46:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Marie Ascher <lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
>Listening to Dave Carter & Tracy Grammer now, too bad he just died, this is
>pretty good stuff
>(and not usually this callous)

Was he supposed to appear at FRFF? I know that the day he died (or the day
after) he was scheduled to be on WFUV (with Tracy).

Marie
   lounge_ascher@hotmail.com


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 06:26:38 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28623
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 06:26:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0B40F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:51:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14084721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 13:57:49 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UHvnv30224 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:57:49 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6UHvnh13629
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:57:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F200AbNF44VEm0Gcr8500000fdc@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D46D5A2.760B8943@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:06:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Speaking of Myles
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

We saw hawks on our way home from Monterey.

Betty

Marie Ascher wrote:
>
> >Adam Hartfield wrote:
> > > driving at night after exhausting days. I've done that before (hi
> >Marie!)
> > > and it was a miracle I got where I was going.
> >
>
> I had no idea we were living a miracle! I still contend that driving with
> Myles swerving all over the road watching the birds was the most dangerous
> wordsler trip I ever took. Oh, no, wait! Was it Karen almost killing me
> TWICE!? Dag, it's a good thing I got my license back.
>
> Marie
>    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 07:11:54 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28674
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 07:11:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0BAB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:37:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14087958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 14:43:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UIh5804787 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:43:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D80348CE3; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:43:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730184304.D80348CE3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:43:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEPFFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 30, 2002  9:41:14 am"

S Hess said:
> > No, he's definitely Fernando. And I'm definitely loopy about
> > Fernando, even though he has no teeth. He is a very, very nice
> > person.
>
> He may be a bit of a foodie, but watching him gum it can't be much of a turn
> on.

I don't think I've ever been turned on by watching someone eat.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 07:12:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28686
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 07:12:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0BABC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:37:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14087982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 14:43:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UIhb804838 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:43:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5A1CC8CC4; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:43:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730184336.5A1CC8CC4@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:43:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Adam at the concert
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F200AbNF44VEm0Gcr8500000fdc@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 30, 2002  1:33:41 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> I had no idea we were living a miracle! I still contend that driving with
> Myles swerving all over the road watching the birds was the most dangerous
> wordsler trip I ever took. Oh, no, wait! Was it Karen almost killing me
> TWICE!? Dag, it's a good thing I got my license back.

Air conditioning really helps.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 07:15:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28698
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 07:15:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0BB05@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:40:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14088184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 14:46:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UIkU805287 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:46:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6C4808D00; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:46:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730184629.6C4808D00@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:46:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F217T5hwwL2c82hBkCq00021637@hotmail.com> from Marie Ascher at
              "Jul 30, 2002  1:39:40 pm"

Marie Ascher said:
> I went to a WW meeting today and the leader was talking about how we should
> stop filling our lives with food and seek forms of entertainment. I was
> thinking, "but what if we find food to BE entertainment" ??

How we value food is almost as interesting a question as how we value
sex.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 07:21:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28703
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 07:21:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0BB7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:46:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14088425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 14:52:44 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UIqi805843 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:52:44 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust209.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.211]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005624432@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 14:52:42 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020730184629.6C4808D00@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D46E0FE.FA6B8FD6@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:54:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> How we value food is almost as interesting a question as how we value
> sex.

Neither interests me one whit.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 07:26:00 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28721
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 07:26:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0BBD0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:51:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14088551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 14:57:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UIvB806195 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:57:11 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A152B862A; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 11:56:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730185642.A152B862A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:56:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D46E0FE.FA6B8FD6@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 30,
              2002  2:54:54 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > How we value food is almost as interesting a question as how we value
> > sex.
>
> Neither interests me one whit.

Well, I think that it's interesting that we all value them so differently.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 07:36:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28734
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 07:36:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0BD39@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:02:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14089450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 15:07:54 -0400
Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6UJ7s807809 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          15:07:54 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6UJ7ra238224 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul
          2002 15:07:53 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEPLFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:06:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730184629.6C4808D00@yellow.rahul.net>

> How we value food is almost as interesting a question as how we value
> sex.
>
> Karen

Agreed. I was dating a guy for a little while (some years ago) who told me,
in response to my question about where he might like to eat for lunch, that
it would be easier for him to tell me what he likes to eat than what he
didn't like to eat. He told me he liked 6 things. I remember them including
iceberg lettuce salad and kraft mac 'n cheese. He did like chicken too. We
went to a chinese place and ordered a simple cashew chicken dish. I remember
his eyes got very wide and and he said "oh, they are just big pieces"...he
had food issues. I figured if he's like this with food, how might he be with
sex. I never found out. We were incompatible in a lot of ways.

Latest report from my "romantic" life. The guy who dumped me when his
so-called ex-gf came to town to stay with him for two weeks, called me the
night she left town (I wasn't around) and that next morning. I told him I
thought it was cold of him to dump me by email and he said "I didn't dump
you." Now, if you get an email that says "I'll be honest. This isn't
working. I like you. I think you are a great person. I don't want to be in a
relationship now." I call that getting dumped. He wanted me out of the way
while she was with him. And he's not even honest enough to cop to what he
did. In his eyes, she's now gone, starting a new job in Michigan...and he
thinks we can just pick up where we left off. He's forgetting, where we left
off was him promising me he would tell her he was dating others. He once
told me that men will say anything to get what they want. I don't believe
that is true for all men, but I do believe it is true for him.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 07:42:57 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28747
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 07:42:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0BDC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:08:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14089825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 15:14:08 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UJE7a08646 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:14:07 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust209.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.211]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005624814@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 15:14:07 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020730185642.A152B862A@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D46E602.D6D74734@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:16:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Well, I think that it's interesting that we all value them so differently.

But I don't value either one at all.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 07:43:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28754
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 07:43:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0BDD4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:08:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14089885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 15:14:43 -0400
Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6UJEha08756 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          15:14:43 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6UJEga32592 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          15:14:42 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEPMFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:13:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEPLFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

*HOWEVER* he and I have no serious commitment to each other. And I got to
thinking about my mom and dad who just celebrated their 43rd anniversary.
When they were dating (7 years on and off) she left him at least twice to
date others (whom she later became engaged to)...I wonder how he felt when
he got dumped for others. I know he liked her a  lot because he would date
her friends when she was seeing others. Of course, there was no sex involved
in those relationships. And I haven't been sexually intimate with this guy
either. I just don't like duplicitousness or sneakiness.

I'm a WYSIWYG kinda gal. Ulterior motives and lies are just too much work.
It's enough to try to understand the reality of things. I haven't desire to
create my own reality and the smoke/mirrors that would have to accompany it.
He told my good friend what most attracted him to me was that I was genuine.
I guess opposites attract, in his case.

Sandra

> Latest report from my "romantic" life. The guy who dumped me when his
> so-called ex-gf came to town to stay with him for two weeks, called me the
> night she left town (I wasn't around) and that next morning. I told him I
> thought it was cold of him to dump me by email and he said "I didn't dump
> you." Now, if you get an email that says "I'll be honest. This isn't
> working. I like you. I think you are a great person. I don't want
> to be in a
> relationship now." I call that getting dumped. He wanted me out of the way
> while she was with him. And he's not even honest enough to cop to what he
> did. In his eyes, she's now gone, starting a new job in Michigan...and he
> thinks we can just pick up where we left off. He's forgetting,
> where we left
> off was him promising me he would tell her he was dating others. He once
> told me that men will say anything to get what they want. I don't believe
> that is true for all men, but I do believe it is true for him.
>
> Sandra
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 07:49:12 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28763
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 07:49:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0BE74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:14:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14090332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 15:20:23 -0400
Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6UJKNa09676 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          15:20:23 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6UJKMa217212 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul
          2002 15:20:22 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEPNFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:18:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D46E602.D6D74734@valstar.net>

Alyce's Sex & Food Values = 0

So noted.

Go grab a snack and some erotica, Alyce.

Sandra

> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > Well, I think that it's interesting that we all value them so
> differently.
>
> But I don't value either one at all.
>
> alyce
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 07:57:49 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28770
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 07:57:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0BEF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:23:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14090689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 15:29:00 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UJT0a10632 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:29:00 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust209.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.211]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005625133@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 15:28:59 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEPNFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D46E97E.A8DFB415@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:31:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:
>
> Alyce's Sex & Food Values = 0
>
> So noted.
>
> Go grab a snack and some erotica, Alyce.
>
Sorry, not interested. I hate this time of day, because about now I
realize that I'll have to eat something pretty soon. IT just ruins the
afternoon, this contemplation. Ken is not here, so I have to make a
decision about what that will be. I have these choices: various frozen
pot pies and dinners in segmented plates (too hot to turn on oven), tuna
fish (had tuna fish salad last night), a can of chili (maybe).
lettuce/tomato/cottage cheese (could have a cold plate), peanut butter
sandwich (possible), corned beef and white American cheese sandwich
(most likely). This last will take the least possible effort, will not
heat up the kitchen, and Spike will enjoy a bite of it, so I think that
is where I'll go.

alyce

alyce


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 07:59:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28777
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 07:59:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0BF1B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:24:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14090341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 15:30:33 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UJKWa09698 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:20:32 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B1971D6 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:20:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6UJKW078742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:20:32
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020730100337.A72000@pobox.com>
            <20020730151608.A8F5B8310@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730142032.A78562@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:20:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730151608.A8F5B8310@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 08:16:08AM -0700

On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 08:16:08AM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> Tushar Samant said:
> > I simply claim that something is very wrong when mere food spoken of
> > as "nourishing the soul". Leads me to exclaim "pah", begging your
> > pardon. Now allow me to forward a hypothesis of a personal nature,
> > no confirmation needed of course. I see your childhood as being
> > relatively deficient in good and bounteous food. Meals were perhaps
> > rather boring, merely functional.  My experience has been so uniform
> > in this respect that tall claims about food bring no other theory to
> > my mind.
>
> I think it's the uniformity that's causing the problem for you.

Dr Kay,

I have no problem.

What the HELL are you talking about?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 08:00:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28788
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 08:00:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0BF3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:26:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14090379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 15:32:03 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UJM3a09898 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:22:03 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52C070AF for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:22:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6UJM2v78797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:22:02
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020730003910.C79357@pobox.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207301020200.25676-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730142202.B78562@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:22:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207301020200.25676-100000@og1.olagrande.net>;
              from aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET on Tue, Jul 30,
              2002 at 10:21:09AM -0500

On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 10:21:09AM -0500, Ann Borkin wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:
> > IMO this post is saying something very different than it seems to,
> > by means of a steganographed subtext channel. It is simply saying
> > who gives a rat's ass, Dr Borkin is fairly pleased to hear from
> > the T Man.
> >
> > Discuss
>
> What's to discuss!  It is so pitifully true.

Greetings,

May I ask: why do you have to be all LIKE THAT?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 08:02:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28792
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 08:02:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017E24C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:33:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14090462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 15:33:45 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UJNha10051 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:23:43 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640B36F28 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:23:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6UJNh478820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:23:43
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D46E602.D6D74734@valstar.net>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEPNFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730142343.C78562@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:23:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEPNFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>; from
              Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM on Tue, Jul 30,
              2002 at 12:18:56PM -0700

On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 12:18:56PM -0700, S Hess wrote:
> Alyce's Sex & Food Values = 0
>
> So noted.
>
> Go grab a snack and some erotica, Alyce.

Greetings, Alyce,

You are doing fantastically well. Please ignore these magazine-reading
TV-watching Americans.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 08:08:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28796
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 08:08:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0BFE4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:34:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14091334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 15:39:56 -0400
Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6UJdta12178 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          15:39:55 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6UJdsa208986 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul
          2002 15:39:55 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEPPFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:38:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730142343.C78562@pobox.com>

> On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 12:18:56PM -0700, S Hess wrote:
> > Alyce's Sex & Food Values = 0
> >
> > So noted.
> >
> > Go grab a snack and some erotica, Alyce.
>
> Greetings, Alyce,
>
> You are doing fantastically well. Please ignore these magazine-reading
> TV-watching Americans.

How La-Di-Da of you.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 08:17:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28816
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 08:17:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0C0D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:43:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14092020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 15:48:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UJmta13584 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:48:55 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C67CF8676; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 12:48:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730194854.C67CF8676@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:48:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D46E602.D6D74734@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 30,
              2002  3:16:18 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Well, I think that it's interesting that we all value them so differently.
>
> But I don't value either one at all.

And that's different from how I value them.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 08:22:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28823
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 08:22:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0C133@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:47:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14092279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 15:53:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UJrIa14235 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:53:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 427F6836C; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 12:53:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730195317.427F6836C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:53:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEPMFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 30, 2002 12:13:16 pm"

S Hess said:
> I just don't like duplicitousness or sneakiness.

Nor do I. What bothers me most about the story of someone from
austin.food breaking my musical instrument and hiding the pieces was
not the breaking of something irreplaceable, but the hiding of the
pieces.

> I'm a WYSIWYG kinda gal. Ulterior motives and lies are just too much work.

I think everyone has ulterior motives, though. And the older you get,
the deeper they lie.

> He told my good friend what most attracted him to me was that I was genuine.
> I guess opposites attract, in his case.

Ouch!:(

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 08:27:26 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28830
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 08:27:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0C1AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:52:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14092623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 15:58:36 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UJwZa15097 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:58:35 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6UJwY713504 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:58:34 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207301458120.13152-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:58:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730142202.B78562@pobox.com>

On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> May I ask: why do you have to be all LIKE THAT?

No.  Shut up.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 08:49:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28859
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 08:49:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0C391@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:14:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14093994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 16:20:16 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UKKFa18318 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:20:15 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6UKKFk07940
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:20:15 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207301458120.13152-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D46F704.454A6A00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:28:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Bitch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:
>
> On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > May I ask: why do you have to be all LIKE THAT?
>
> No.  Shut up.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 08:59:06 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28889
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 08:59:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0C48A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:24:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14094669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 16:30:14 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UKUEa19887 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:30:14 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DEF17836C; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 13:01:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730200129.DEF17836C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:01:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207301458120.13152-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 30, 2002  2:58:34 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > May I ask: why do you have to be all LIKE THAT?
>
> No.  Shut up.

Why are you all like that, Ann?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 09:11:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28903
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 09:11:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017EA05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:42:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14095854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 16:42:29 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UKgTa22616 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:42:29 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0200A6QXIS3G@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:42:28 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020730200129.DEF17836C@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D46F9D2.7080605@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:40:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Ann Borkin said:
>
>>On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:
>>
>>>Greetings,
>>>
>>>May I ask: why do you have to be all LIKE THAT?
>>>
>>No.  Shut up.
>>
>
> Why are you all like that, Ann?
>


She's just a different person around Tushar.  He makes her
loopy.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 09:28:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28941
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 09:28:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017EC30@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:59:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14097336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 16:59:19 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe57.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.192]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UKxJa25445 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:59:19 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 13:59:13 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.154.5]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2002 20:59:13.0605 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[F5993750:01C2380B]
Message-ID:  <OE57DWWcuZcGwM0OOJr00003598@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:38:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Loopy and Gay
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The meaning of "loopy," to me, would describe Liza Minelli's character in
The Sterile Cuckoo. As I infer here, it can now mean <infatuated> or some
such thing.

I heard someone use "gay" recently to mean "sucky":

"Cleveland's gay. Ohio's gay."

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 09:34:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28956
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 09:34:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017ED35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:06:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14098635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 17:06:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UL60a26868 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:06:00 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BBC9382FE; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 14:05:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730210507.BBC9382FE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:05:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D46F9D2.7080605@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 30,
              2002  3:40:50 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> She's just a different person around Tushar.  He makes her
> loopy.

Does Allan know?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 09:39:58 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28970
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 09:39:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0CA3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:05:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14099158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 17:11:06 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ULB6a27973 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:11:06 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0200J6MYUHBO@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:11:05 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
Message-ID:  <3D470087.9040403@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:09:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lisa just called to say hello... she sounds like she's
off-the-wall excited ... here we go again.  I think I'd
better get that package off to Karo before she arrives,
though.  Or maybe I won't.  It has Karo's graduation photos
and she might want to see those.

And *I* got to talk to her -- nobody else is home right now :).

--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 09:51:51 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28992
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 09:51:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0CB2B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:17:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14099909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 17:22:58 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ULMwa29699 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:22:58 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0200JRDZEA9S@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:22:58 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <OE57DWWcuZcGwM0OOJr00003598@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D470350.6080406@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:21:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Loopy and Gay
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:

> The meaning of "loopy," to me, would describe Liza Minelli's character in
> The Sterile Cuckoo. As I infer here, it can now mean <infatuated> or some
> such thing.
>
> I heard someone use "gay" recently to mean "sucky":
>
> "Cleveland's gay. Ohio's gay."


        Would it have been Tushar?





--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 09:56:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28999
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 09:56:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017EF26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:27:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14100134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 17:27:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ULRTa30230 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:27:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EC0698E13; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 14:27:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730212728.EC0698E13@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:27:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D470087.9040403@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 30,
              2002  4: 9:27 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Lisa just called to say hello... she sounds like she's
> off-the-wall excited ... here we go again.  I think I'd
> better get that package off to Karo before she arrives,
> though.  Or maybe I won't.  It has Karo's graduation photos
> and she might want to see those.
>
> And *I* got to talk to her -- nobody else is home right now :).

Lisa?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:04:10 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29019
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:04:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0CBF9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:29:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14100511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 17:35:17 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ULZHa31269 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:35:17 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020730213511.SZPK23732.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:35:11 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020730142135.02513e70@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:31:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Loopy and Gay
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE57DWWcuZcGwM0OOJr00003598@hotmail.com>

Amy Burns Short writes,

>I heard someone use "gay" recently to mean "sucky":

Not uncommon a few years back, IME.  And seems counter-intuitive, but also
IME the usage is not intended to put down homosexuality.

 From a February 2001 videogaming thread
<http://www.tendocity.net/archives/ramble/000635.htm>: "I used to think
that calling something 'gay' was bad, but now I've seen the errors of my
thinking. Since 'gay' is commonly accepted as meaning 'something that
sucks', why not take advantage of that? What other 3 letter word can sum
things up so nicely? Some people think that calling things 'gay' is
offensive to homosexuals, but nothing could be further from the truth. When
I call something 'sh!t', I'm not talking about feces that were excreted
from my ass, am I? Of course not. I'm just using a word that was handy to
describe something that is bad."

Additional usage notes in the thread...

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:11:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29037
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:11:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0CCAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:37:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14100422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 17:42:54 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ULWsa31014 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:32:54 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E697138 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:32:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6ULWrO18517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:32:53
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020730200129.DEF17836C@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D46F9D2.7080605@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730163253.A18450@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:32:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D46F9D2.7080605@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Tue,
              Jul 30, 2002 at 03:40:50PM -0500

On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 03:40:50PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
> She's just a different person around Tushar.  He makes her
> loopy.

Chapman,

Stop projecting.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:12:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29046
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:12:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017F071@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:43:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14100457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 17:43:40 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ULXda31100 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:33:39 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9967374 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:33:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6ULXdc18526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:33:39
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207301458120.13152-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <3D46F704.454A6A00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730163339.B18450@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:33:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Snitch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D46F704.454A6A00@uclink.berkeley.edu>; from
              bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU on Tue, Jul 30,
              2002 at 01:28:52PM -0700

On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 01:28:52PM -0700, Betty wrote:
> Ann Borkin wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > May I ask: why do you have to be all LIKE THAT?
> >
> > No.  Shut up.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:14:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29050
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:14:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017F099@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:45:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14101151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 17:45:11 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ULjBa32638 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:45:11 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0300AKE0FA0O@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:45:10 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020730212728.EC0698E13@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D470885.3080707@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:43:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>Lisa just called to say hello... she sounds like she's
>>off-the-wall excited ... here we go again.  I think I'd
>>better get that package off to Karo before she arrives,
>>though.  Or maybe I won't.  It has Karo's graduation photos
>>and she might want to see those.
>>
>>And *I* got to talk to her -- nobody else is home right now :).
>>
>
> Lisa?
>


My newest kid!  Arriving tomorrow!



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:14:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29063
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:14:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0CCEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:39:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14100527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 17:45:39 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ULZda31305 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:35:39 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466936395 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:35:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6ULZdb18563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:35:39
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020730142343.C78562@pobox.com>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEPPFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730163539.C18450@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:35:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEPPFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>; from
              Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM on Tue, Jul 30,
              2002 at 12:38:28PM -0700

On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 12:38:28PM -0700, S Hess wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 12:18:56PM -0700, S Hess wrote:
> > > Alyce's Sex & Food Values = 0
> > >
> > > So noted.
> > >
> > > Go grab a snack and some erotica, Alyce.
> >
> > Greetings, Alyce,
> >
> > You are doing fantastically well. Please ignore these magazine-reading
> > TV-watching Americans.
>
> How La-Di-Da of you.

I had forgotten to add "la-di-da-saying", thanks!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:15:16 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29072
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:15:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0CCFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:40:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14101206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 17:46:23 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ULkNa32728 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:46:23 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6ULkMl21173 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:46:22 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207301645450.21097-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:46:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730200129.DEF17836C@yellow.rahul.net>

On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> Ann Borkin said:
> > On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > May I ask: why do you have to be all LIKE THAT?
> >
> > No.  Shut up.
>
> Why are you all like that, Ann?
>

I read it "why do you all have to be LIKE THAT"

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:16:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29076
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:16:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017F0C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:47:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14101282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 17:47:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ULlKa00405 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:47:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A403186C2; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 14:47:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730214719.A403186C2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:47:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D470885.3080707@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 30,
              2002  4:43:33 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> My newest kid!  Arriving tomorrow!

Where's she from again?

Btw, Fernando was an exchange student in high school. In central
Florida somewhere, I forget.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:16:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29080
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:16:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0CD1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:42:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14100637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 17:48:06 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ULc5a31577 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:38:05 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10B1734E for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:38:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6ULc4H18709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:38:04
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <OE57DWWcuZcGwM0OOJr00003598@hotmail.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020730142135.02513e70@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730163804.D18450@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:38:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Loopy and Gay
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020730142135.02513e70@mail.istori.com>; from
              kaminski@ISTORI.COM on Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 02:31:27PM -0700

On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 02:31:27PM -0700, Peter Kaminski wrote:
> Amy Burns Short writes,
>
> >I heard someone use "gay" recently to mean "sucky":
>
> Not uncommon a few years back, IME.  And seems counter-intuitive, but also
> IME the usage is not intended to put down homosexuality.

Right.

>  From a February 2001 videogaming thread
> <http://www.tendocity.net/archives/ramble/000635.htm>: "I used to think
> that calling something 'gay' was bad, but now I've seen the errors of my
> thinking. Since 'gay' is commonly accepted as meaning 'something that
> sucks', why not take advantage of that? What other 3 letter word can sum
> things up so nicely? Some people think that calling things 'gay' is
> offensive to homosexuals, but nothing could be further from the truth. When
> I call something 'sh!t', I'm not talking about feces that were excreted
> from my ass, am I? Of course not. I'm just using a word that was handy to
> describe something that is bad."
>
> Additional usage notes in the thread...

What an excellent and convincing argument.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:20:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29085
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:20:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0CD49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:45:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14101427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 17:51:25 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe56.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.191]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ULpPa00797 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:51:25 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 14:51:19 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.154.5]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2002 21:51:19.0888 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[3D022500:01C23813]
Message-ID:  <OE56s5rQdHvl5D4ZI0600003658@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:29:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Loopy and Gay
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> I heard someone use "gay" recently to mean "sucky":
>
> "Cleveland's gay. Ohio's gay."

>        Would it have been Tushar?

No. It was a *real* person, many times removed from this <service.>

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:22:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29115
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:22:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0CD74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:47:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14101542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 17:53:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ULrJa01078 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:53:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2986686C2; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 14:53:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730215319.2986686C2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:53:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEPLFFAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 30, 2002 12: 6:26 pm"

S Hess said:
> Agreed. I was dating a guy for a little while (some years ago) who told me,
> in response to my question about where he might like to eat for lunch, that
> it would be easier for him to tell me what he likes to eat than what he
> didn't like to eat. He told me he liked 6 things. I remember them including
> iceberg lettuce salad and kraft mac 'n cheese. He did like chicken too. We
> went to a chinese place and ordered a simple cashew chicken dish. I remember
> his eyes got very wide and and he said "oh, they are just big pieces"...he
> had food issues. I figured if he's like this with food, how might he be with
> sex. I never found out. We were incompatible in a lot of ways.

Whew.

> Latest report from my "romantic" life. The guy who dumped me when his
> so-called ex-gf came to town to stay with him for two weeks, called me the
> night she left town (I wasn't around) and that next morning. I told him I
> thought it was cold of him to dump me by email and he said "I didn't dump
> you." Now, if you get an email that says "I'll be honest. This isn't
> working. I like you. I think you are a great person. I don't want to be in a
> relationship now." I call that getting dumped.

I don't know if I'd call it getting dumped, but it's sure not getting closer.

> He wanted me out of the way while she was with him. And he's not
> even honest enough to cop to what he did. In his eyes, she's now
> gone, starting a new job in Michigan...and he thinks we can just
> pick up where we left off. He's forgetting, where we left off was
> him promising me he would tell her he was dating others. He once
> told me that men will say anything to get what they want. I don't
> believe that is true for all men, but I do believe it is true for
> him.

Definite L-word.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:23:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29119
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:23:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0CD96@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:48:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14101654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 17:54:52 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ULspa01240 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:54:51 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6ULspn25859 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          16:54:51 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020730214719.A403186C2@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <016901c23813$f87d71e0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:56:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Btw, Fernando was an exchange student in high school. In central
> Florida somewhere, I forget.
>
> Karen

Exchanged from where?

         - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:25:32 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29123
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:25:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017F18B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:56:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14101794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 17:56:39 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe37.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.94]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ULuda01496 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:56:39 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 14:56:34 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.154.5]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2002 21:56:34.0188 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[F85884C0:01C23813]
Message-ID:  <OE37uNBFiK5Jcg0cmGX00003608@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:34:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Snatch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

One of my colleagues finally found herself a boyfriend. She's SO much nicer
now!

When I was in college a group of randy girls I knew/know used to explain
about an attractive guy in this way:

"He's a Snatch."

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:34:46 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29166
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:34:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0CE98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:59:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14102411 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 18:05:52 -0400
Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6UM5qa02733 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          18:05:52 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6UM5pa386232 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul
          2002 18:05:51 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEAGFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:04:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Loopy and Gay
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE57DWWcuZcGwM0OOJr00003598@hotmail.com>

I never took it to mean "sucky." When someone declared something "gay" (but
not in the people/sexual sense)...it meant lame or weak. People might say
Microsoft sucks, but I haven't heard them call it gay.

Sandra

> The meaning of "loopy," to me, would describe Liza Minelli's character in
> The Sterile Cuckoo. As I infer here, it can now mean <infatuated> or some
> such thing.
>
> I heard someone use "gay" recently to mean "sucky":
>
> "Cleveland's gay. Ohio's gay."
>
> AS
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:36:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29170
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:36:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0CEC8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:01:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14102552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 18:07:24 -0400
Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6UM7Oa02990 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          18:07:24 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6UM7Na386708 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul
          2002 18:07:23 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEAGFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:05:56 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730163539.C18450@pobox.com>

> On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 12:38:28PM -0700, S Hess wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 12:18:56PM -0700, S Hess wrote:
> > > > Alyce's Sex & Food Values = 0
> > > >
> > > > So noted.
> > > >
> > > > Go grab a snack and some erotica, Alyce.
> > >
> > > Greetings, Alyce,
> > >
> > > You are doing fantastically well. Please ignore these magazine-reading
> > > TV-watching Americans.
> >
> > How La-Di-Da of you.
>
> I had forgotten to add "la-di-da-saying", thanks!

My pleszuh.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:40:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29184
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:40:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017F2C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:11:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14102662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 18:11:27 -0400
Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6UMBRa03390 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          18:11:27 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6UMBQa162774 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul
          2002 18:11:26 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEAHFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:09:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730215319.2986686C2@yellow.rahul.net>

On a good note: I rec'd my latest Netflix... PINERO. I've been looking
forward to that.

Sandra


> I don't know if I'd call it getting dumped, but it's sure not
> getting closer.

I think it means he wants what he wants when he wants it. And it means it
mattered to him not to hurt her feelings, but he did not seem to mind
hurting mine. I've had a lifetime of being number 2. I matter to my friends
and family. One day I will matter to someone else.

> > He wanted me out of the way while she was with him. And he's not
> > even honest enough to cop to what he did. In his eyes, she's now
> > gone, starting a new job in Michigan...and he thinks we can just
> > pick up where we left off. He's forgetting, where we left off was
> > him promising me he would tell her he was dating others. He once
> > told me that men will say anything to get what they want. I don't
> > believe that is true for all men, but I do believe it is true for
> > him.
>
> Definite L-word.

I've never called anyone a loser. It's just not in me to do that. It's not
that I'm not judgmental...I am. I just hate the idea of writing off a person
as if they cannot transmogrify.

>
> Karen

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:41:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29192
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:41:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017F2DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:12:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14102279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 18:12:55 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UM2ta02373 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:02:55 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2215FA1 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:02:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6UM2sX20103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:02:54
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <OE37uNBFiK5Jcg0cmGX00003608@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020730170254.B18894@pobox.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:02:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Snatch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE37uNBFiK5Jcg0cmGX00003608@hotmail.com>; from
              amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM on Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 04:34:55PM -0500

On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 04:34:55PM -0500, Amy Burns Short wrote:
> used to explain about an attractive guy

This is incorrect English. Please edit

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:42:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29196
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:42:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017F2E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:13:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14102758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 18:13:29 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe51.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.40]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UMDTa03583 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:13:29 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 15:13:23 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.154.5]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2002 22:13:23.0664 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[520A5500:01C23816]
Message-ID:  <OE51AQV6uPDVniSnRMW000036f7@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:51:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Loopy and Gay
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess:

>I never took it to mean "sucky." When someone declared something "gay" (but
not in the people/sexual sense)...it meant lame or weak. People might say
Microsoft sucks, but I haven't heard them call it gay.

Sucky doesn't often connote lame or weak? What's the difference then?

I've also heard "beat" to mean lame or weak.

"That's BEAT!"

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:44:29 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29207
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:44:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0CF27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:09:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14102825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 18:15:35 -0400
Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6UMFZa03769 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          18:15:35 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6UMFYa305850 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul
          2002 18:15:35 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEAJFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:14:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Loopy and Gay
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE51AQV6uPDVniSnRMW000036f7@hotmail.com>

I've never heard "BEAT" used in that fashion.  Is this a recent utterance or
something from long ago?

Sch.

> S Hess:
>
> >I never took it to mean "sucky." When someone declared something
> "gay" (but
> not in the people/sexual sense)...it meant lame or weak. People might say
> Microsoft sucks, but I haven't heard them call it gay.
>
> Sucky doesn't often connote lame or weak? What's the difference then?
>
> I've also heard "beat" to mean lame or weak.
>
> "That's BEAT!"
>
> AS
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:47:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29217
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:47:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0CF41@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:12:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14102895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 18:18:25 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UMIPa03999 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:18:25 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws133-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.133]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6UMI5700811
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:18:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020730152156.789FC81AD@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D47109B.3035B8DD@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:18:03 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Dog movie for Natalie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Snow Dogs.

Is it new?  I'll watch for the tape.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:49:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29228
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:49:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0CF64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:14:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14103003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 18:20:43 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UMKga04270 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:20:42 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws133-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.133]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6UMKd701534
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:20:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020730111214.00a027a0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020730112713.00a039c0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D47112A.AA2E24A9@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:20:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> >Well, the air has something like 73% humidity today. And Natalie puts
> >her A/C on colder than I do.     --Karen
>
> I thought Natalie turned off all artificial cooling and heating at night.

I don't sleep in heat, but I sometimes sleep in a/c.  I don't remember
what Karen said she keeps hers set on.  I keep mine a little over 80 --
around 82 or 83.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:51:27 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29232
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 10:51:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0CF71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:16:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14103045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 18:22:33 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UMMXa04431 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:22:33 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0300A0F25H0P@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:22:29 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020730214719.A403186C2@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D471142.2070005@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:20:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>My newest kid!  Arriving tomorrow!
>>
>
> Where's she from again?


Germany.


> Btw, Fernando was an exchange student in high school. In central
> Florida somewhere, I forget.


Visa jumper, huh?




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 11:03:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29290
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 11:03:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017F439@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:34:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14103427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 18:34:54 -0400
Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g6UMYsa05625 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          18:34:54 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6UMYra236436 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul
          2002 18:34:53 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAMEAKFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:33:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Bumper Stickers
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Septic Tank Truck sign reads: "We're #1 in the #2 business".
>
> Sign over a gynecologist's office: "Dr. Jones, at your cervix."
>
> At a military hospital-door to colonoscopies: "To expedite your
> visit please
> back in"
>
> On a Plumbers truck: "We repair what your husband fixed."
>
> On the trucks of a local plumbing company  "Don't sleep with a drip. Call
> your plumber."
>
> At a tire shop in  Milwaukee: "Invite us to your next blowout."
>
> Door of a plastic surgeon's office:  "Hello. Come in and pick your nose."
>
> At a laundry shop:  "How about we refund your money, send you a
> new one at no
> charge, close the store and have the manager shot. Would that be
> satisfactory?"
>
> At a towing company: "We don't charge an arm and a leg. We want tows."
>
> On an electrician's truck: "Let us remove your shorts."
>
> In a non-smoking area: "If we see smoke, we will  assume you are
> on fire and
> take appropriate action."
>
> On a maternity room door: "Push. Push. Push."
>
> At an optometrist's office: "If you don't see what you're  looking for,
> you've come to the right place."
>
> On a taxidermist's window: "We really know our stuff."
>
> In a podiatrist's office: "Time wounds all heels."
>
> On a fence: "Salesmen welcome! Dog food is expensive."
>
> At a car dealership: "The best way to get back on your feet - miss a car
> payment."
>
> Outside a muffler shop: "No appointment necessary.  We hear you coming."
>
> In a veterinarian's waiting room: "Be back in 5 minutes. Sit! Stay!"
>
> At the electric company: "We would be de-lighted if you send in
> your bill.
> However, if you don't, you will be."
>
> In a restaurant window: "Don't stand there and be hungry. Come
> on in and get
> fed up."
>
> In the front yard of a funeral home:  "Drive carefully. We'll wait."
>
> At a propane filling station, "Tank heaven for little grills."
>
> And don't forget the sign at a Chicago radiator shop:  "Best
> place in town to
> take a leak"
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 11:36:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29321
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 11:36:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0D18D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:01:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14104732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 19:07:23 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe70.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.205]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UN7Na08903 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:07:23 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 16:07:17 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.68]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2002 23:07:17.0529 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[D992F890:01C2381D]
Message-ID:  <OE703ZfQZQR7Ia6XH4W000036e3@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:08:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Loopy and Gay
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I've never heard "BEAT" used in that fashion.  Is this a recent utterance
or
something from long ago?

>From about 5-6 years ago to present.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 11:41:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29336
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 11:41:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0D1B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:06:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14104861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 19:12:41 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe37.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.94]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UNCfa09385 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:12:41 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 16:12:36 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.68]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2002 23:12:36.0026 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[9769C1A0:01C2381E]
Message-ID:  <OE372XiWdhPEVn3Ickw000036c6@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:14:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Snatch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 04:34:55PM -0500, Amy Burns Short wrote:
> used to explain about an attractive guy

>This is incorrect English. Please edit

Really? I will not. I don't feel like it. Cite, please.

I'm being influenced by what I hear so many times most every day, it
appears. :).

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:25:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29475
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 12:25:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0D3A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:50:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14106408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 19:56:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UNuaa13735 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:56:36 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1D1D28DDA; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 16:56:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730235636.1D1D28DDA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:56:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEAHFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 30, 2002  3: 9:59 pm"

S Hess said:
> I've never called anyone a loser. It's just not in me to do that. It's not
> that I'm not judgmental...I am. I just hate the idea of writing off a person
> as if they cannot transmogrify.

But most people can't, that's the sad thing.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:26:08 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29479
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 12:26:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0D3A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:51:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14106413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 19:57:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UNvCa13802 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:57:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 84DB98DDA; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 16:57:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730235711.84DB98DDA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:57:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dog movie for Natalie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D47109B.3035B8DD@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 30,
              2002  5:18: 3 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> > Snow Dogs.
>
> Is it new?  I'll watch for the tape.

-ish, I guess.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:27:30 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29483
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 12:27:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0D3AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:52:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14106429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 19:58:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UNwXa13875 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:58:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CFF8D81F7; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 16:58:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020730235832.CFF8D81F7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:58:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D471142.2070005@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 30,
              2002  5:20:50 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> > Btw, Fernando was an exchange student in high school. In central
> > Florida somewhere, I forget.
>
> Visa jumper, huh?

Actually, you know,  I've never interrogated him about his visa
status. DAMN! He could be one of those sucky, GAY, H1B workers like
you-know-who.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:34:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29507
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 12:34:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017F9CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:05:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14106647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 20:05:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V05ba14535 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:05:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E22F88E14; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 17:05:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731000536.E22F88E14@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:05:36 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Poop:(
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I just got e-mail from Fernando's friend I interviewed with a few
weeks ago, telling me that nothing would happen about a job until
October.:( (But he still loves me.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:55:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29572
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 12:55:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017FAF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:26:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14107462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 20:26:30 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V0QTa16751 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:26:30 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020731002624.DTH23732.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 00:26:24 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGELCGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:29:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D45ED0F.2BD636C2@maynor.net>

> > Beans and rice aren't expensive, but lean protein is.
>
> ?? Beans and rice are lean protein, aren't they?

I meant to say lean meat. Forgive the word-o.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:06:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29600
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 13:06:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017FBA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:37:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14107866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 20:37:24 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V0bOa18026 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:37:24 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020731003718.QIL23732.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 00:37:18 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOELCGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:40:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730112216.11C1D828D@yellow.rahul.net>

> Of living across the park is that we get tons of foot traffic. I can't
> believe it, but there are people out there walking at 6:22AM!
>
> Karen

Why can't you believe it? Tuesday and Friday mornings, I'm at Forest Park in
Springfield (a 15-minute drive for me) at 6:15 a.m.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:10:03 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29607
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 13:10:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0D570@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:35:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14107949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 20:41:05 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V0f5a18302 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:41:05 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6V0f4Jv006106 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:41:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020730215319.2986686C2@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020730174047.00a71c60@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:41:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Netflix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEAHFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

We just got a DVD player. Should I sign up for Netflix?

Betty

At 03:09 PM 7/30/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>On a good note: I rec'd my latest Netflix... PINERO. I've been looking
>forward to that.
>
>Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:18:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29638
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 13:18:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017FC54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:49:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14108102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 20:49:47 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V0nka18882 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:49:46 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020731004941.BEGS23732.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 00:49:41 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGIELDGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:52:41 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Adam at the concert
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F200AbNF44VEm0Gcr8500000fdc@hotmail.com>

> I had no idea we were living a miracle!

We were! We were singing because I was so damn tired, I had to do something
to keep myself awake.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:21:37 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29665
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 13:21:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0D5B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:46:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14108158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 20:52:39 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V0qca19107 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:52:38 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020731005233.BHUL23732.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 00:52:33 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGMELDGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:55:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F27z9jyMRfQPNv5Rsxz000217be@hotmail.com>

> Was he supposed to appear at FRFF? I know that the day he died (or the day
> after) he was scheduled to be on WFUV (with Tracy).
>
> Marie
>    lounge_ascher@hotmail.com

Yeah, he was supposed to be there. Amazingly, Tracy came, and even sang. She
said that most people told her it was amazing she had the strength to be
there, but she countered that with saying she was afraid to go home.

A lot of artists did a really quite moving tribute to him in the time that
Dave and Tracy were supposed to be on stage.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:23:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29679
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 13:23:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017FC9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:54:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14108203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 20:54:46 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V0ska19235 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:54:46 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6V0siJv010185 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:54:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020730112216.11C1D828D@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020730175437.00a7abc0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:55:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOELCGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

At 08:40 PM 7/30/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > Of living across the park is that we get tons of foot traffic. I can't
> > believe it, but there are people out there walking at 6:22AM!
> >
> > Karen
>
>Why can't you believe it? Tuesday and Friday mornings, I'm at Forest Park in
>Springfield (a 15-minute drive for me) at 6:15 a.m.

Good for you, Adam.  What do you do Mondays and Thursdays?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:30:35 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29692
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 13:30:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0D60D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:55:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14108452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 21:01:37 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V11ba19946 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:01:37 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020731010131.EVH221.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 01:01:31 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGELEGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:04:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020730175437.00a7abc0@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> Good for you, Adam.  What do you do Mondays and Thursdays?
>
> Betty

On those days, and Wednesdays, I walk in my office park at lunch. I also
usually walk in the park on Saturdays with my mom.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:31:33 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29700
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 13:31:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017FD07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:02:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14108480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 21:02:36 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V12Za20042 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:02:35 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-79.panax.com [63.163.41.79])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V12an27571 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:02:36 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020730204845.00b5f1a8@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:02:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      summer evening
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

It is very calm and pleasant outside---after some showers today.  The sky
is clear.  Bonnie is still at the Hearthside---the owners went to supper at
a place that is pretty good but which is not known for rapid
service.  After supper---I sliced up the remainder of my Sunday rack of
lamb and made a quesadilla with a couple of types of cheese, three types of
peppers, some kalamata olives, and the appropriate seasonings, washed down
with some of MDI's finest ale, Special Old Bitter, known affectionately as
SOB---I sat on the deck to watch the sunset.  Sunset was a sort of
peach---not gold, not orange.  The nearby trees were beautifully
silhouetted against it.  One brilliant star (probably a planet, but as they
probably don't grow organic produce, who cares---right?) shown in the
west.  To the south, I could see the lights of the cars headed down from
the Cadillac summit.  Some stopped at Sunset Point---clearly mesmerized  by
the sunset.  The contrails tonight of the transAtlantic flights were
short---a mile or less, I would guess.  I imagine that this means that the
upper layers are fairly dry.

Now, we are beginning to get a bit of a breeze from the west.  I may wander
back to the deck and wait for Bonnie to meander in.

cwv
p.s., BB--SOB is another of the local brews that, praise be, are only
available in 22 oz. bottles.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:43:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29708
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 13:43:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017FD8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:14:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14108699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 21:13:32 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V1DWa20820 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:13:32 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 82AD0803B; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 18:13:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731011331.82AD0803B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:13:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGELEGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 30, 2002  9: 4:31 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> On those days, and Wednesdays, I walk in my office park at lunch. I also
> usually walk in the park on Saturdays with my mom.

Good for you.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:43:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29711
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 13:43:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0D663@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:08:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14108704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 21:14:08 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V1E5a20848 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:14:05 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust65.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.67]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005631260@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 21:14:05 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020730215319.2986686C2@yellow.rahul.net>
            <4.2.2.20020730174047.00a71c60@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D473A5E.B0329A79@valstar.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:16:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Netflix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Betty wrote:
>
> We just got a DVD player. Should I sign up for Netflix?
>
Yes, unless  you want the newest movies. There are long waits for those.

alyce

--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:44:44 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29723
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 13:44:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0D66B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:09:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14108721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 21:15:46 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V1Fja20970 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:15:45 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0300JQ6A68A7@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:15:45 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020730235832.CFF8D81F7@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D4739D8.9000509@swbell.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:14:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>>Btw, Fernando was an exchange student in high school. In central
>>>Florida somewhere, I forget.
>>>
>>Visa jumper, huh?
>>
>
> Actually, you know,  I've never interrogated him about his visa
> status. DAMN! He could be one of those sucky, GAY, H1B workers like
> you-know-who.
>

        Wouldn't that be BEAT.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:49:02 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29733
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 13:49:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0D699@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:14:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14108880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 21:20:04 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V1K4a21464 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:20:04 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6V1K3Jv012042 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:20:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020730175437.00a7abc0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020730181957.00a69a00@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:20:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGELEGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>

At 09:04 PM 7/30/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > Good for you, Adam.  What do you do Mondays and Thursdays?
> >
> > Betty
>
>On those days, and Wednesdays, I walk in my office park at lunch. I also
>usually walk in the park on Saturdays with my mom.

Good for you!  Some days I just don't feel like getting going that early so
I tried the lunch time thing, too.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:50:09 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29743
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 13:50:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0D69E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:15:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14108899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 21:21:11 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V1LAa21552 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:21:11 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6V1L9Jv017329 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:21:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020730182114.00a31b90@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:21:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: summer evening
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020730204845.00b5f1a8@mail.panax.com>

>
>
>cwv
>p.s., BB--SOB is another of the local brews that, praise be, are only
>available in 22 oz. bottles.


Cheers!

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 14:16:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29786
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 14:16:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017FF32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:47:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14109488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 21:47:31 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V1lUa24016 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:47:31 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws91-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.91]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6V1lR725712
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:47:27 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4741AD.F778C4BA@maynor.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:47:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Food
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I had Jamaican jerk grouper tonight in tribute to Peter.  The Jamaican
part I mean.  Not the jerk part.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 14:28:53 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29913
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 14:28:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0D7CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:54:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14109854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 21:59:54 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V1xra25072 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:59:53 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-79.panax.com [63.163.41.79])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V1xrn06169 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:59:53 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020730204845.00b5f1a8@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020730215756.00b62258@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:59:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: summer evening
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020730182114.00a31b90@uclink.berkeley.edu>

At 06:21 PM 7/30/2002 -0700, betty wrote:


>>cwv
>>p.s., BB--SOB is another of the local brews that, praise be, are only
>>available in 22 oz. bottles.
>
>
>Cheers!

Bonnie made it home. I fixed her a drink and a cup of coffee and we sat on
the deck, talking and watching the stars and Milky Way appear.

Life ain't that bad.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 14:45:21 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29950
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 14:45:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0D86D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:10:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14110363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 22:16:21 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6V2GLa26613 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          22:16:21 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6V2GK2408320 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul
          2002 22:16:20 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEBCFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:14:51 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Netflix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020730174047.00a71c60@uclink.berkeley.edu>

If you like to watch movies, hate late fees and the inconvenience of picking
up/dropping off movies....

I love it.

Sandra

>
> We just got a DVD player. Should I sign up for Netflix?
>
> Betty
>
> At 03:09 PM 7/30/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >On a good note: I rec'd my latest Netflix... PINERO. I've been looking
> >forward to that.
> >
> >Sandra
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 14:47:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29954
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 14:47:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018008E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:18:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14110515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 22:18:01 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6V2I1a26965 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          22:18:01 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6V2I0234588 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          22:18:00 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEBCFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:16:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Netflix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D473A5E.B0329A79@valstar.net>

Not true. PINERO's new. I regularly review my queue and reprioritize based
on availability. They have a lot of the newest releases.

Sandra
>
>
> Betty wrote:
> >
> > We just got a DVD player. Should I sign up for Netflix?
> >
> Yes, unless  you want the newest movies. There are long waits for those.
>
> alyce
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 15:06:07 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29975
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 15:06:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0D96C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:31:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14111033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 22:37:06 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V2b6a28516 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:37:06 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6V2b5Jv025390 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:37:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020730174047.00a71c60@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020730193704.00a737f0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:37:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Netflix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEBCFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

Sounds good to me.  We go through streaks watching movies. They usually end
up watching me.

Betty

At 07:14 PM 7/30/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>If you like to watch movies, hate late fees and the inconvenience of picking
>up/dropping off movies....
>
>I love it.
>
>Sandra
>
> >
> > We just got a DVD player. Should I sign up for Netflix?
> >
> > Betty
> >
> > At 03:09 PM 7/30/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >On a good note: I rec'd my latest Netflix... PINERO. I've been looking
> > >forward to that.
> > >
> > >Sandra
> >

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 16:11:20 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00133
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 16:11:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0E1F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:36:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14117465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 23:42:19 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe42.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.100]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V3gIa04018 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:42:18 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          30 Jul 2002 20:42:13 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2002 03:42:13.0394 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[41E03720:01C23844]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <OE42JUk8gJa2o6REbAm00003a30@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:42:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Difficult to put on!

I did it for the first time tonight -- but it looks nice.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 16:18:43 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00152
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 16:18:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0E222@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:43:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14117586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 23:49:42 -0400
Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V3nfa04520 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:49:41 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id
          c.108.15923e3f (3850) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul
          2002 23:49:31 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <108.15923e3f.2a78b84b@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:49:31 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Loopy and Gay
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/30/2002 4:51:45 PM Central Daylight Time,
amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM writes:

<<
> I heard someone use "gay" recently to mean "sucky":
>
> "Cleveland's gay. Ohio's gay."

>        Would it have been Tushar?

No. It was a *real* person, many times removed from this <service.>


>>

I'm glad it wasn't anyone on this list.  Cleveland rocks!

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 16:19:13 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00159
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 16:19:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0E225@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:44:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14117599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 23:50:11 -0400
Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V3oBa04586 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:50:11 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id
          c.17d.be58ff2 (3850) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          23:50:03 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <17d.be58ff2.2a78b86a@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:50:02 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: For Evelyn
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/30/2002 11:46:46 AM Central Daylight Time,
Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM writes:

<<
Driven Teen Passes Up Career
At Sears for a More Normal Life


>>

I wish I were free enough to do that.

My manager has the IQ of a turnip.

Do you mind if I pass this on to a friend of mine?

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 16:24:11 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00164
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 16:24:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018075C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:55:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14117791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 23:55:09 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6V3t9a05040 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          23:55:09 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6V3t8245384 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          23:55:08 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEBEFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:53:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE42JUk8gJa2o6REbAm00003a30@hotmail.com>

It gets easier with time. I haven't done it, but a great Martha Stewart tip
is to sew a shoe lace or such to the inside corners of the duvet cover...and
similar ones to the corners of your duvet. By tying them together...you
prevent the thing from shifting around and it makes it easy to put on.

Sandra

>
> Difficult to put on!
>
> I did it for the first time tonight -- but it looks nice.
>
> AS
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 16:24:45 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00171
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 16:24:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0E263@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:49:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14117797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 23:55:43 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6V3tha05078 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          23:55:43 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6V3tg296324 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002
          23:55:42 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOEBEFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:54:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: For Evelyn
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <17d.be58ff2.2a78b86a@aol.com>

> Do you mind if I pass this on to a friend of mine?
>
> Evelyn Duncan

Sure. Do as you please.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 16:26:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00175
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 16:26:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0E2AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:52:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14117987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 23:57:58 -0400
Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com (imo-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.165]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V3vwa05356 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:57:58 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id
          c.12e.15206400 (3850) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Jul
          2002 23:57:52 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <12e.15206400.2a78ba40@aol.com>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:57:52 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: For Evelyn
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/30/2002 10:55:48 PM Central Daylight Time,
Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM writes:


> Do you mind if I pass this on to a friend of mine?
>
> Evelyn Duncan

Sure. Do as you please.



Thanks!

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 17:26:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00308
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 17:26:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00180B4C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 0:57:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14121288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 00:57:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V4vCa11405 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 00:57:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7DA858009; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 21:57:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731045711.7DA858009@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:57:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4739D8.9000509@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 30,
              2002  8:14: 0 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Rita Chapman said:
> >>>Btw, Fernando was an exchange student in high school. In central
> >>>Florida somewhere, I forget.
> >>>
> >>Visa jumper, huh?
> >
> > Actually, you know,  I've never interrogated him about his visa
> > status. DAMN! He could be one of those sucky, GAY, H1B workers like
> > you-know-who.
>
>         Wouldn't that be BEAT.

Tonight he came over and I heard stories of his run-ins with the
police from 1973 on. This was much more interesting than I can make it
sound. I laughed so hard I cried.

His niece is going to be an exchange student in the Dominican
Republic; they are in Corfu for vacation before she leaves.

I want to be in Corfu.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 17:27:18 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00312
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 17:27:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0E6F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 0:52:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14121310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 00:58:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V4wEa11483 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 00:58:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 345D68009; Tue, 30
          Jul 2002 21:58:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731045814.345D68009@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:58:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGOELCGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 30, 2002  8:40:18 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> Why can't you believe it? Tuesday and Friday mornings, I'm at Forest Park in
> Springfield (a 15-minute drive for me) at 6:15 a.m.

Because it's dark. The only time I used to run in the dark was so I
could get the sunrise over Diamondhead.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 20:18:22 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00531
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 20:18:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0ECF1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 3:43:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14126565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 03:49:14 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V7nEa28118 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 03:49:14 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4LBP>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:49:13 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4LB3; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:49:11 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <F608ZmBMeQLa5DLkd4H00017995@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020731094840.0308ee50@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:49:04 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730143623.6715C864F@yellow.rahul.net>

07:36 30.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>Rashmi Murthy said:
> > okay. It's not terribly difficult for me to avoid it.
>
>I know you would like him if you met him. Animals and small children
>flock to him. Last night I met some more people he has known for over
>25 years. (As opposed to My New Friend, whose most enduring
>relationship was a year and a half.) Really--Fernando is A Good
>Thing.
>
>Hangovers, however are Bad Things.

They are good for you.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 20:36:33 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00551
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 20:36:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0ED6A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 4:01:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14126951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 04:07:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V87Oa29926 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 04:07:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D049C8BD1; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 01:07:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731080723.D049C8BD1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 01:07:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020731094840.0308ee50@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 31, 2002  9:49: 4 am"

Espen Ore said:
> >Hangovers, however are Bad Things.
>
> They are good for you.

Er, why???

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 21:21:19 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00607
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 21:21:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0EDFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 4:46:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14127379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 04:52:10 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V8q9a32745 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 04:52:09 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4LN4>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:52:08 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4LNT; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:52:04 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D470885.3080707@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020731105118.00bbc4d0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:51:57 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730214719.A403186C2@yellow.rahul.net>

14:47 30.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>Rita Chapman said:
> > My newest kid!  Arriving tomorrow!
>
>Where's she from again?
>
>Btw, Fernando was an exchange student in high school. In central
>Florida somewhere, I forget.

*er* - Hermes? (Or Ferdydurke for the literary oriented.)

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 22:06:12 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00648
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 22:06:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018175C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 5:37:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14128247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 05:36:58 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V9awa03982 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 05:36:58 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4LRY>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:36:57 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4LRX; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:36:54 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020731113104.030e76f0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:33:15 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: summer evening
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020730204845.00b5f1a8@mail.panax.com>

21:02 30.07.2002 -0400 skrev clyde w. voigtlander:
>It is very calm and pleasant outside---after some showers today.  The sky

When I read this I was happy that on Saturday I am moving in to the forest
so to speak for a week of sesshin at what is actually a forest church with
kitchens and rooms for sleeping:

<http://foreninger.uio.no/oksl/stedene.html#kapellet>

I might even find time for enjoying a late summer evening even if I am
going to be the cook's assistant this time and so pretty busy.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 22:21:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00668
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 22:21:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0EF23@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 5:46:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14128406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 05:52:05 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V9q5a05071 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 05:52:05 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4LSV>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:52:04 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4LS4; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:52:01 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020731115050.030ddb90@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:51:54 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE42JUk8gJa2o6REbAm00003a30@hotmail.com>

22:42 30.07.2002 -0500 skrev Amy Burns Short:
>Difficult to put on!
>
>I did it for the first time tonight -- but it looks nice.

It is always strange for me to come to a country where there aren't duvets
on the beds. Although I can see why they aren't there in the summer in
Greece it seems to me that they are there in Scotland but not in England.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 23:03:59 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00714
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 23:03:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0F0ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 6:28:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14129813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 06:34:47 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VAYla09055 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 06:34:47 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4LV5>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:34:46 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4LVZ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:34:42 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020731094840.0308ee50@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020731123245.030df578@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:34:34 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731080723.D049C8BD1@yellow.rahul.net>

01:07 31.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>Espen Ore said:
> > >Hangovers, however are Bad Things.
> >
> > They are good for you.
>
>Er, why???

One Asterix story claims that the reason for the fall of the Roman Empire
was that Asterix and Obelix had invented a cure for hangovers. When the
Romans started to use this medicine it meant that they could drink as much
as they wished and still survive next morning. (Asterix as Gladiator, I
believe)

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 23:34:01 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00738
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 23:34:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0F1A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 6:58:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14126884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 07:04:49 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (daemon@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VB4na25490 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:04:49 -0400
Received: (from maynor@localhost); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18);
          id g6VB4m121023 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          06:04:48 -0500 (CDT)
Message-ID:  <200207311104.g6VB4m121023@Ra.MsState.Edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 06:04:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Poetry
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>
>   This poem is composed entirely of actual quotes from George W. Bush.
> The quotes have been arranged for aesthetic presentation by Washington
> Post writer Richard Thompson. Too good not to share, especially during
> National Poetry Month...
>
>   MAKE THE PIE HIGHER
>   by George W. Bush
>
>   I think we all agree, the past is over.
>   This is still a dangerous world.
>   It's a world of madmen and uncertainty
>   and potential mental losses.
>
>   Rarely is the question asked
>   Is our children learning?
>   Will the highways of the Internet become more few?
>   How many hands have I shaked?
>
>   They misunderestimate me.
>   I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity.
>   I know that the human being and the fish can coexist.
>   Families is where our nation finds hope, where
>   our wings take dream.
>
>   Put food on your family!
>   Knock down the tollbooth!
>   Vulcanize society!
>   Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher!
>
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 23:36:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00747
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 23:36:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00181AA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 7:07:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14126919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 07:07:06 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VB75a25755 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:07:05 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6VBDp502293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:13:51
          +0200
References: <OE42JUk8gJa2o6REbAm00003a30@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020731131351.A2278@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:13:51 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE42JUk8gJa2o6REbAm00003a30@hotmail.com>; from
              amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM on Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 10:42:55PM -0500

= Difficult to put on!
=
= I did it for the first time tonight -- but it looks nice.
=
= AS

1.  It's easier if you have more space.  Our new bedroom is bigger
than the old one and that's made a big difference.

2.  You can also try turning the duvet inside out, then sticking
your arms on the inside and grabbing hold of the blanket.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 23:37:09 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00759
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 23:37:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00181AA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 7:07:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14126940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 07:07:56 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe59.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.194]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VB7ua25812 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:07:56 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          31 Jul 2002 04:07:50 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2002 11:07:50.0977 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[82B79B10:01C23882]
Message-ID:  <OE59CvKGcx3qwjGHIcr00003cbe@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 06:09:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>His niece is going to be an exchange student in the Dominican
Republic; they are in Corfu for vacation before she leaves.

>I want to be in Corfu.

>Karen

"An exchange student in the Dominican Republic."

You have no idea how bizarre that sounds to me.

Best to stay in Corfu.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 23:41:34 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00772
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 23:41:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0F1D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 7:06:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14127003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 07:12:21 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe67.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.202]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VBCLa26230 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:12:21 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          31 Jul 2002 04:12:15 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2002 11:12:15.0868 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[209AC3C0:01C23883]
Message-ID:  <OE67JlVU6yMbujRbXde00003d33@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 06:14:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>1.  It's easier if you have more space.  Our new bedroom is bigger
than the old one and that's made a big difference.

>2.  You can also try turning the duvet inside out, then sticking
your arms on the inside and grabbing hold of the blanket.

>steph

I have enough space. Part of the issue is that it's a king-size duvet (to
fit the bed).

I liked Sandra's Martha Stewart tip.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 23:45:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00786
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 23:45:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0F1FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 7:09:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14127142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 07:15:52 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe41.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.98]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VBFqa26741 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:15:52 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          31 Jul 2002 04:15:46 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2002 11:15:46.0880 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[9E60A400:01C23883]
Message-ID:  <OE41TFur2iz2Mb1s7nl00003ddf@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 06:17:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>2.  You can also try turning the duvet inside out, then sticking
your arms on the inside and grabbing hold of the blanket.

>steph

What I wound up doing was something like this -- although I practically had
to crawl inside the duvet to do so and make it work.

But it worked.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 23:48:23 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00790
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 24 Jun 1960 23:48:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0F214@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 7:13:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14127214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 07:19:10 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VBJAa27044 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:19:10 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4LZ9>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:19:09 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4LZ8; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:19:07 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <OE42JUk8gJa2o6REbAm00003a30@hotmail.com>
            <OE42JUk8gJa2o6REbAm00003a30@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020731131838.0308e220@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:19:00 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731131351.A2278@yoccoz.multinix.com>

13:13 31.07.2002 +0200 skrev steph:
>= Difficult to put on!
>=
>= I did it for the first time tonight -- but it looks nice.
>=
>= AS
>
>1.  It's easier if you have more space.  Our new bedroom is bigger
>than the old one and that's made a big difference.

Yes


>2.  You can also try turning the duvet inside out, then sticking
>your arms on the inside and grabbing hold of the blanket.

That is good advice.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 00:05:47 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00815
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 00:05:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0F2AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 7:30:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14127648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 07:36:34 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VBaXa29191 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:36:33 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-19.panax.com
          [65.114.190.19]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6VBaXn02270 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          07:36:34 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731073434.00a05be0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:36:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE67JlVU6yMbujRbXde00003d33@hotmail.com>

>I have enough space. Part of the issue is that it's a king-size duvet (to
>fit the bed).
>
>I liked Sandra's Martha Stewart tip.
>AS

I've been putting a king-sized down comforter into a comforter cover for
about twenty years now without the help of Martha.  It's not all that
horrible.  You do get used to it.  Possibly the hardest part is to then
give the whole thing a good fluffing shake when you lower back hurts from
shoveling snow.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 00:22:39 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00830
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 00:22:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0F34D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 7:47:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14128006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 07:53:25 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe65.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.200]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VBrPa30994 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:53:25 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          31 Jul 2002 04:53:20 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2002 11:53:20.0225 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[DD79CD10:01C23888]
Message-ID:  <OE65Qp9jBQIjo7365ZG00003d6f@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 06:55:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I've been putting a king-sized down comforter into a comforter cover for
about twenty years now without the help of Martha.

<whew> Good to know I can possibly get along without her, then.

>It's not all that horrible.  You do get used to it.

Sounds like advice given to women about to be married in days of yore ....:)

>Possibly the hardest part is to then give the whole thing a good fluffing
shake when you lower back hurts from shoveling snow.

That was probably it. No snow, but I've been having lower-back issues
recently. I'm ready to hie me to the day spa next week.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 00:47:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00865
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 00:47:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0F4DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 8:12:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14128854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 08:18:18 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VCIHa01505 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:18:18 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6VCIHF25217 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          07:18:17 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020731045814.345D68009@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <020d01c2388c$975e1ee0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:20:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Because it's dark. The only time I used to run in the dark was so I
> could get the sunrise over Diamondhead.
>
> Karen

Spectacular!  In all these years I've never
done Diamondhead, and now I wonder why.
Guess I could still do it if I put my mind to
it.

            - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 01:40:32 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA00946
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 01:40:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0F8E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 9:05:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14131656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 09:11:17 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VDBHa08939 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:11:17 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05910 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:11:16 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 31 Jul 02
          09:11:16 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 31 Jul 02 09:11:12 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D47A9AE.27863.2A90F3@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:11:11 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Toronto and the Pope
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

It may not have been the best choice to go to Toronto this past
weekend, but it all worked out ok.  The Downsview Lands, where the
mass Mass was set up, is less than a km. from Steve's house.  The
Pope's big helicopter and its entourage of smaller helicopters flew
right over the house as he was coming and going. We could see the
big yellow cross and hear the crowd cheeing and singing and we
could hear JP's voice, though we couldn't tell what he was saying.
Traffic was handled well. Wilson and Sheppard (the two main east-
west streets near Downsview) were closed to regular traffic with one
lane open to funnel all of the charter bus traffic to the entrances.

I drove past there yesterday and the mounds of trash are incredible.
They had provided thousands of cardboard boxes to be used as
trash receptacles, but the rainstorm on saturday night meant that the
boxes got used as shelter instead. The paper was reporting
yesterday that a local business had been flooded by the sewage
from the site.

The lead on one of the radio news programs on monday was "The
Pope is gone, but the garbage remains." It seemed appropriate to
more than the Downsview mess.

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 01:51:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA00970
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 01:51:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00182338@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 9:22:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14132279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 09:22:26 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VDMQa10434 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:22:26 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust208.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.210]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004326615@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 09:22:26 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEBCFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D47E50F.85D2534B@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:24:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Netflix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:
>
> Not true. PINERO's new. I regularly review my queue and reprioritize based
> on availability. They have a lot of the newest releases.
>
Yes, they have new releases, but I am unable to get them. I have been
waiting since May for one with Travolta, the name of which I have
forgotten because it has been so long. In my queue, there are five that
have "wait" or "long wait" designations.

alyce


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 02:00:48 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00996
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 02:00:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0FA99@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 9:25:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14132928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 09:31:32 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VDVVa11985 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:31:31 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6VDcJi02596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:38:19
          +0200
References: <OE42JUk8gJa2o6REbAm00003a30@hotmail.com>
            <OE42JUk8gJa2o6REbAm00003a30@hotmail.com>
            <20020731131351.A2278@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731131838.0308e220@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020731153819.A2580@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:38:19 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020731131838.0308e220@victoria.nb.no>; from
              Espen.Ore@NB.NO on Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 01:19:00PM +0200

=
= >2.  You can also try turning the duvet inside out, then sticking
= >your arms on the inside and grabbing hold of the blanket.
=
= That is good advice.
=
= Espen

Thank you.  It's nice to be told you give good advice.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 02:04:17 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01000
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 02:04:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0FAEE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 9:29:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14133180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 09:35:01 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VDZ1a12635 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:35:01 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust208.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.210]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005642414@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 09:34:59 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D47E800.DB37F09A@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:37:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      typo do jour
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://www.foodbooks.com/cookbook.htm
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 02:10:05 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01007
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 02:10:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0FBB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 9:34:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14133752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 09:40:45 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VDefa13705 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:40:42 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4MFR>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:40:41 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4MFQ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:40:35 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020731131838.0308e220@victoria.nb.no>
            <OE42JUk8gJa2o6REbAm00003a30@hotmail.com>
            <OE42JUk8gJa2o6REbAm00003a30@hotmail.com>
            <20020731131351.A2278@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731131838.0308e220@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020731153841.030c04e8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:40:29 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731153819.A2580@yoccoz.multinix.com>

15:38 31.07.2002 +0200 skrev steph:
>=
>= >2.  You can also try turning the duvet inside out, then sticking
>= >your arms on the inside and grabbing hold of the blanket.
>=
>= That is good advice.
>=
>= Espen
>
>Thank you.  It's nice to be told you give good advice.

Thank you - but now I am getting confused and have a word-question: as far
as I have understood the word duvet, that is what goes inside the duvet
cover (and is in this area something containing down or artificial stuff
for people who might have allergies). Here you use the word as if it is a
cover you put something into.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 02:11:12 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01014
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 02:11:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21521
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:42:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0FBB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 9:35:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14132900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 09:40:55 -0400
Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VDUsa11893 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:30:54 -0400
Received: from ceiwebsrv02.edu.sp.senac.br ([200.231.172.15]) by
          pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VDUsV09243 for
          <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:30:54 -0400
Received: from mail.zapo.net ([204.32.146.225]) by ceiwebsrv02.edu.sp.senac.br
          with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3604.0); Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:32:57 -0300
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2002 13:32:57.0782 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C8609D60:01C23896]
Message-ID:  <00003069617d$00005896$00002a1a@mail.zapo.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:34:08 -1700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Market Monitor Extreme <selectfeed79@ZAPO.NET>
Subject:      Future Event Service:SMTV.OB              V
Comments: To: Market.trader@pasta.cc.uga.edu
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

<html><body><p><img border=3D0 src=3Dhttp://64.70.131.237/Sub1jpg.JPG><img =
border=3D0 src=3Dhttp://64.70.131.235/Sub2jpg.JPG><img border=3D0 src=3Dht=
tp://207.36.38.38/Sub3jpg.JPG><img border=3D0 src=3Dhttp://207.36.38.241/S=
ub4jpg.JPG><img border=3D0 src=3Dhttp://64.70.131.29/Sub5jpg.JPG><img bord=
er=3D0 src=3Dhttp://64.70.131.33/Sub6jpg.JPG></p></body></html>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 02:16:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01028
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 02:16:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00182580@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 9:47:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14134577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 09:47:02 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe47.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.19]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VDl2a16371 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:47:02 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          31 Jul 2002 06:46:56 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.65]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2002 13:46:56.0599 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[BC59EE70:01C23898]
Message-ID:  <OE479s4ddqN19bBLmUj00003ed7@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:48:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>Thank you - but now I am getting confused and have a word-question: as far
as I have understood the word duvet, that is what goes inside the duvet
cover (and is in this area something containing down or artificial stuff
for people who might have allergies). Here you use the word as if it is a
cover you put something into.


>Espen

This fleetingly passed through my mind, but I'm a newbie to duvet-ness. What
I did is put a comforter inside a cover. Let's see, I still have the
packaging ... It's labeled Duvet Cover (twill), but also "One King Duvet."
I've interpreted duvet to mean the actual cover -- but I can see where it
may actually be a "duvet cover."
It looks nice, at any rate.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 02:23:36 1960
Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01032
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 02:23:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.03F0FD53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 9:48:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14135169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 09:54:19 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VDsJa17921 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:54:19 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-10.panax.com
          [65.114.190.10]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6VDsKn28135 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          09:54:20 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731095128.00b3ff48@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:51:55 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: typo do jour
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D47E800.DB37F09A@valstar.net>

At 09:37 AM 7/31/2002 -0400, alyce wrote:
>http://www.foodbooks.com/cookbook.htm

..almost a Spoonerism...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 02:35:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01052
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 02:35:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00182769@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:06:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14136185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 10:06:12 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VE6CG20236 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:06:12 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6VED0Q02686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:13:00
          +0200
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020731131838.0308e220@victoria.nb.no>
            <OE42JUk8gJa2o6REbAm00003a30@hotmail.com>
            <OE42JUk8gJa2o6REbAm00003a30@hotmail.com>
            <20020731131351.A2278@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731131838.0308e220@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020731153819.A2580@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731153841.030c04e8@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020731161300.A2676@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:13:00 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020731153841.030c04e8@victoria.nb.no>; from
              Espen.Ore@NB.NO on Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 03:40:29PM +0200

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 03:40:29PM +0200, Espen Ore wrote:
= 15:38 31.07.2002 +0200 skrev steph:
= >=
= >= >2.  You can also try turning the duvet inside out, then sticking
= >= >your arms on the inside and grabbing hold of the blanket.
= >=
= >= That is good advice.
= >=
= >= Espen
= >
= >Thank you.  It's nice to be told you give good advice.
=
= Thank you - but now I am getting confused and have a word-question: as far
= as I have understood the word duvet, that is what goes inside the duvet
= cover (and is in this area something containing down or artificial stuff
= for people who might have allergies). Here you use the word as if it is a
= cover you put something into.
=
= Espen

My mistake.  Due to circumstances, we tend to call them
dekbedovertreks anyway.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 02:37:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01061
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 02:37:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001827AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:08:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14136346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 10:08:24 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VE8NG20569 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:08:24 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4MH4>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:08:23 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4MHR; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:08:18 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020731153841.030c04e8@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731131838.0308e220@victoria.nb.no>
            <OE42JUk8gJa2o6REbAm00003a30@hotmail.com>
            <OE42JUk8gJa2o6REbAm00003a30@hotmail.com>
            <20020731131351.A2278@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731131838.0308e220@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020731153819.A2580@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731153841.030c04e8@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020731160745.030843b0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:08:12 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731161300.A2676@yoccoz.multinix.com>

16:13 31.07.2002 +0200 skrev steph:
>On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 03:40:29PM +0200, Espen Ore wrote:
>= 15:38 31.07.2002 +0200 skrev steph:
>= >=
>= >= >2.  You can also try turning the duvet inside out, then sticking
>= >= >your arms on the inside and grabbing hold of the blanket.
>= >=
>= >= That is good advice.
>= >=
>= >= Espen
>= >
>= >Thank you.  It's nice to be told you give good advice.
>=
>= Thank you - but now I am getting confused and have a word-question: as far
>= as I have understood the word duvet, that is what goes inside the duvet
>= cover (and is in this area something containing down or artificial stuff
>= for people who might have allergies). Here you use the word as if it is a
>= cover you put something into.
>=
>= Espen
>
>My mistake.  Due to circumstances, we tend to call them
>dekbedovertreks anyway.

Dyne and dynetrekk here.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 02:46:56 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01091
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 02:46:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000000AD@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:17:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14137135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 10:17:39 -0400
Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VEHcG22298 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:17:38 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0192.dialsprint.net ([63.190.0.192]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #1) id 17ZuID-0005pT-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 10:17:38 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE479s4ddqN19bBLmUj00003ed7@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D47F17F.FCA4D7C1@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:17:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: Duvet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Word Question:  What's the difference between a duvet and a comforter?

Amy Burns Short wrote:
>
> >Thank you - but now I am getting confused and have a word-question: as far
> as I have understood the word duvet, that is what goes inside the duvet
> cover (and is in this area something containing down or artificial stuff
> for people who might have allergies)
> >Espen
>
> This fleetingly passed through my mind, but I'm a newbie to duvet-ness. What
> I did is put a comforter inside a cover.
> AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 02:55:32 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01095
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 02:55:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000000DA@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:26:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14137689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 10:26:14 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VEQEG23596 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:26:14 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0400F0NARPA3@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:26:13 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020731045814.345D68009@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D47F322.6070701@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:24:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Adam Hartfield said:
>
>>Why can't you believe it? Tuesday and Friday mornings, I'm at Forest Park in
>>Springfield (a 15-minute drive for me) at 6:15 a.m.
>>
>
> Because it's dark. The only time I used to run in the dark was so I
> could get the sunrise over Diamondhead.
>


I prefer running in the dark.  Fewer people around to bug me
-- and I don't tend to run into people I know who want to
stop and chat.  Now that Lisa is arriving, though, I'll be
able to get up and go in the morning.  I hate getting up
before 8am as a general rule, but I need to get my body
acclimated again before school starts up.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 02:58:44 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01102
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 02:58:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001829E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:29:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14137883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 10:29:26 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VETQG24164 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:29:26 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020731142920.ZKAA23732.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:29:20 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <OE479s4ddqN19bBLmUj00003ed7@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731072124.024a34d0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:25:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D47F17F.FCA4D7C1@pop.mindspring.com>

Sylvia Edwards writes,

>Word Question:  What's the difference between a duvet and a comforter?

"Duvet" is French.

I put our cover on like pantyhose: bunch it up at the top of the comforter,
then kind of slide it down.  Luckily, we don't shovel snow here, so the
good fluffing shake is not too hard.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 02:59:58 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01110
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 02:59:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000000EE@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:30:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14137956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 10:30:41 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VEUfG24343 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:30:41 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0400FJXAZ47H@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:30:40 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <200207311104.g6VB4m121023@Ra.MsState.Edu>
Message-ID:  <3D47F42E.90704@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:29:02 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Poetry
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Speaking of which, the issue of The Red River Review that my
poem is in just appeared online.  Plus I got contrib. copies
of a traditional journal that I placed a poem in this week.
  I am having a very good week, and am enormously pleased
with myself.  I will remain so until the next batch of
rejections come trickling in.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 03:00:20 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01119
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 03:00:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000000F1@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:31:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14137996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 10:31:03 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VEV2G24400 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:31:03 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws87-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.87]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6VEUx721174
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:31:00 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE479s4ddqN19bBLmUj00003ed7@hotmail.com>
            <3D47F17F.FCA4D7C1@pop.mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D47F4A2.E5CAEC1B@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:30:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Duvet
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sylvia Edwards wrote:
>
> Word Question:  What's the difference between a duvet and a comforter?

A duvet is on a bed in England and a comforter on a bed in the US. :-)
Actually, I call them all comforters.  The only difference I've ever
discerned is that a comforter with a sewn-on cover is a comforter and a
comforter inside a removable cover is a duvet.  But then I'm far from an
authority on this subject and have never given it great thought.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 03:07:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01123
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 03:07:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00182AB9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:38:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14138430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 10:38:04 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VEc3G25333 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:38:04 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 454BA81C3; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 07:38:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731143803.454BA81C3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:38:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE59CvKGcx3qwjGHIcr00003cbe@hotmail.com> from Amy Burns Short at
              "Jul 31, 2002  6: 9:36 am"

Amy Burns Short said:
> >His niece is going to be an exchange student in the Dominican
> Republic; they are in Corfu for vacation before she leaves.
>
> >I want to be in Corfu.
>
> >Karen
>
> "An exchange student in the Dominican Republic."
>
> You have no idea how bizarre that sounds to me.

Why?

> Best to stay in Corfu.

It's a vacation.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 03:09:02 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01132
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 03:09:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000011E@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:39:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14138519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 10:39:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VEdiG25566 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:39:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5C0A386A7; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 07:39:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731143943.5C0A386A7@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:39:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <020d01c2388c$975e1ee0$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 31, 2002  7:20: 0 am"

Doris Markland said:
> > Because it's dark. The only time I used to run in the dark was so I
> > could get the sunrise over Diamondhead.
> >
> > Karen
>
> Spectacular!  In all these years I've never
> done Diamondhead, and now I wonder why.
> Guess I could still do it if I put my mind to
> it.

What do you mean, done it? You can also crawl up inside and see the
gun emplacements.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 03:11:21 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02169
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 03:11:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000133@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:42:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14138729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 10:42:01 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VEg1G25976 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:42:01 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0400F9SBI09W@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:42:00 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020731045711.7DA858009@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D47F6D6.5020509@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:40:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

>
> His niece is going to be an exchange student in the Dominican
> Republic; they are in Corfu for vacation before she leaves.


I've talked to kids who have done exchange trips to less
developed nations.  They mostly didn't like the experience
because the families were paid to host them, and they felt
like a burden.  I'd be interested in how her experience
turns out.


> I want to be in Corfu.
>

Me too!




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 03:19:13 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02553
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 03:19:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000017C@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:49:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14139392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 10:49:55 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VEntG27075 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:49:55 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5120B8DF5; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 07:49:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731144954.5120B8DF5@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:49:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D47F6D6.5020509@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 31,
              2002  9:40:22 am"

Rita Chapman said:
> I've talked to kids who have done exchange trips to less
> developed nations.  They mostly didn't like the experience
> because the families were paid to host them, and they felt
> like a burden.  I'd be interested in how her experience
> turns out.

I'll see if Fernando parts with details as the year wears on.  He was
not thrilled at the location, but we didn't talk about it much.

> > I want to be in Corfu.
>
> Me too!

I'd take you with me!:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 03:22:45 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02558
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 03:22:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000198@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:53:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14139670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 10:53:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VErRG27692 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:53:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A7F4B816A; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 07:53:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731145326.A7F4B816A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:53:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020731105118.00bbc4d0@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 31, 2002 10:51:57 am"

Espen Ore said:
> 14:47 30.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> >Rita Chapman said:
> > > My newest kid!  Arriving tomorrow!
> >
> >Where's she from again?
> >
> >Btw, Fernando was an exchange student in high school. In central
> >Florida somewhere, I forget.
>
> *er* - Hermes? (Or Ferdydurke for the literary oriented.)

These are all tempting, but really, he's Fernando.

Who is Ferdyduke?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 03:24:07 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02565
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 03:24:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000001A4@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:54:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14139797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 10:54:49 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VEsnG27885 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:54:49 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc57 ([204.127.198.46]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020731145443.HSPM24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:54:43 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc57; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:54:42 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020731145443.HSPM24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:54:42 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Loopy and Gay
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

These are new to you? Huh.

Using "gay" in place of sucky or stupid has been around
since my playground days. As a matter of fact I was
amazed when my mother told me gay meant happy. I think I
was damn near shocked when I found out what else it meant.

Gayly,

lisa
> The meaning of "loopy," to me, would describe Liza Minelli's character in
> The Sterile Cuckoo. As I infer here, it can now mean <infatuated> or some
> such thing.
>
> I heard someone use "gay" recently to mean "sucky":
>
> "Cleveland's gay. Ohio's gay."
>
> AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 03:24:14 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02569
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 03:24:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000001A5@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:54:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14139804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 10:54:56 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VEsuG27896 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:54:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6BB038652; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 07:54:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731145455.6BB038652@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:54:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020731123245.030df578@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Jul 31, 2002 12:34:34 pm"

Espen Ore said:
> 01:07 31.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> >Espen Ore said:
> > > >Hangovers, however are Bad Things.
> > >
> > > They are good for you.
> >
> >Er, why???
>
> One Asterix story claims that the reason for the fall of the Roman Empire
> was that Asterix and Obelix had invented a cure for hangovers. When the
> Romans started to use this medicine it meant that they could drink as much
> as they wished and still survive next morning. (Asterix as Gladiator, I
> believe)

Ah. I'm not big into drinking for volume. This hangover was from
drinking 4 glasses of wine over 5 hours.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 03:39:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02585
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 03:39:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00182E37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:10:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14140194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 11:10:32 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VF0WG28749 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:00:32 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6VF0WK3006572;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:00:32 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207311058190.24528-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:00:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie, I don't know where/when you will collect those drinks
(3?) that you have decided I owe you. I will not be able to go to Methods
XI - a court case in a nearby state requires my attention the next two
weeks.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 03:48:32 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02600
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 03:48:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000234@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:19:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14141617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 11:19:13 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VFJDG31861 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:19:13 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust194.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.196]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004329214@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 11:19:13 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207311058190.24528-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D48006D.C237441D@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:21:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> Natalie, I don't know where/when you will collect those drinks
> (3?) that you have decided I owe you. I will not be able to go to Methods
> XI - a court case in a nearby state requires my attention the next two
> weeks.

What a shame. Can you get refunds on your tickets, etc.?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 03:51:32 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02631
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 03:51:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000242@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:22:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14141779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 11:22:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VFMCG32310 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:22:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4CDE38670; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 08:22:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731152204.4CDE38670@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:22:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D48006D.C237441D@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 31,
              2002 11:21:17 am"

alyce cresap said:
> "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
> >
> > Natalie, I don't know where/when you will collect those drinks
> > (3?) that you have decided I owe you. I will not be able to go to Methods
> > XI - a court case in a nearby state requires my attention the next two
> > weeks.
>
> What a shame.

After all the work and worry we did, too!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 04:04:43 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02660
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 04:04:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000002A2@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:35:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14143131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 11:35:24 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VFZOG03015 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:35:24 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g6VFZNF09080 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          10:35:23 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020731143943.5C0A386A7@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001e01c238a8$21a02600$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:37:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> What do you mean, done it? You can also crawl up inside and see the
> gun emplacements.
>
> Karen

Done the hike to the top of DH.

            - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 04:46:57 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03082
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 04:46:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000003BD@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:17:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14146697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 12:17:37 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VGHbG10046 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:17:37 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22873 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:17:36 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 31 Jul 02
          12:17:36 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 31 Jul 02 12:16:57 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g6VGHbG10047
Message-ID:  <3D47D52F.31220.E9D3D2@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:16:48 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <001e01c238a8$21a02600$360332d1@0018079268>

I have applied for a job in Toronto.  Though I'd rather not be too
specific at this point, it is enough to say that the job posting
detailed requirements that could have been written directly from my
résumé.  Whether it pays enough to make the move possible and
whether they will consider a non-Canadian no matter how perfectly
qualified are questions yet to be answered.  Today is the deadline
for apps., so if they're interested, I should hear at least something
fairly soon.
There are lots of risks even if the money is ok and the work permit
issues work out - but at least it is a step - a learning experience
about the process if nothing else.

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 04:49:43 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03086
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 04:49:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000003C8@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:20:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14146814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 12:20:23 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VGKMG10302 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:20:23 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2EAA18F92; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 09:20:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731162022.2EAA18F92@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:20:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D47D52F.31220.E9D3D2@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Jul
              31, 2002 12:16:48 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> I have applied for a job in Toronto.

Good for you. I'm glad you're Taking Steps.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 04:50:36 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03093
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 04:50:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000003CC@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:21:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14146857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 12:21:16 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VGLGG10388 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:21:16 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust194.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.196]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004330561@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 12:21:16 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D47D52F.31220.E9D3D2@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D480EF7.B8556972@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:23:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> I have applied for a job in Toronto.

Wow!  A big step. Good luck.

alyce

--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 04:51:50 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03097
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 04:51:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000003D4@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:22:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14146933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 12:22:28 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6VGMMG10506 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          12:22:22 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6VGMJ2396780; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:22:19 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGECBFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:20:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      A warning For thee
Comments: To: "Laurene Dominic\" <\"Laurene Dominic"
          <laurie2528@earthlink.net>,
          "Cyndi Niven\" <\"Cynthia Niven" <cniven2@worldnet.att.net>,
          Judy Collins <coldevinc@aol.com>, Niki Syndetos <nsyndeto@yahoo.com>,
          "Carol Suveda\" <\"Carol Suveda" <CAROLSUV@aol.com>,
          Caroline Fisher <CFisherED@aol.com>,
          Greg Hess <gregory.hess@claremontmckenna.edu>,
          Cait Mills <CMills2558@aol.com>, Tim Lajcik <timlajcik@lycos.com>,
          "Marc Nochella\" <\"Marc Nochella" <Marc@feldmangallery.com>,
          Linda Cordero <lindac2060@yahoo.com>,
          "Dara Strasberg\" <\"Dara Strasberg" <darasue@earthlink.net>,
          Diane & David Anthony <dlgroner@hotmail.com>,
          "Joseph Hess\" <\"Joseph Hess" <jhess@2id.org>,
          John Mush <sf_book@yahoo.com>,
          Erin Stuart-Jennings <erin.stuart-jennings@zurichna.com>,
          Karen Rodriguez <kdrodriguez@hotmail.com>,
          Marie Whitworth <amarie94903@yahoo.com>,
          Mary Jo Pollack <emmer425@yahoo.com>,
          Monika Trobits <monikatrobits@msn.com>
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

You have just received the Amish Virus.  Since we do not have electricity or
computers, you are on the honor system.
Please delete all your files.
We thank thee

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 04:57:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03103
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 04:57:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00183630@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:28:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14146714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 12:28:00 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VGI0G10076 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:18:00 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6VGHxsp003501 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:17:59 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207311214200.7681-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:17:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D48006D.C237441D@valstar.net>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

>What a shame. Can you get refunds on your tickets, etc.?

It is, but it isn't. I would love to make the trip and go to the conf.,
but what is happening in Ga. is so important and exciting that I simply
chose the more important thing to do. In one way having planned the trip
was very good - I need two weeks, and I would not have two uncommitted
weeks if I had not planned such a trip.

It may be possible to get an airline refund - probably the rest is down
the drain. There's not a lot more money available in this case, but I
will probably be able to recover all lost travel expenses at least.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 04:58:42 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03111
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 04:58:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000400@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:29:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14146799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 12:29:22 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VGJLG10229 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:19:21 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6VGJLsp003943 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:19:21 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207311218060.7681-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:19:21 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731152204.4CDE38670@yellow.rahul.net>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> What a shame.
>
>After all the work and worry we did, too!

For which I remain grateful ... I shall remember all when it is time to
plan next summer's travel, tentatively involving Spain (can I get there on
SAS miles?) and Australia.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 05:27:49 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03129
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 05:27:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000049A@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:58:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14149297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 12:58:28 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6VGwRG15246 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          12:58:27 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6VGwR277632 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          12:58:27 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOECDFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:56:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020731115050.030ddb90@victoria.nb.no>

The first time I slept with a duvet was in Frankfurt. I was hooked. When I
came home, I chucked all my flat sheets. Now it's just a fitted sheet and a
covered duvet. Perfect. I no longer have to untuck the sheets at the bottom
of the bed. That's the first thing I do when I get to an american hotel.

Sandra


> It is always strange for me to come to a country where there aren't duvets
> on the beds. Although I can see why they aren't there in the summer in
> Greece it seems to me that they are there in Scotland but not in England.
>
> Espen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 05:30:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03148
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 05:30:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018394A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:00:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14149539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 13:01:00 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VH0xG15633 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:00:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2D13B822C; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 10:00:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731170059.2D13B822C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:00:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOECDFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 31, 2002  9:56:52 am"

S Hess said:
> The first time I slept with a duvet was in Frankfurt. I was hooked. When I
> came home, I chucked all my flat sheets. Now it's just a fitted sheet and a
> covered duvet. Perfect.

I do this, except I don't cover the comforter. (But the comforter is
washable--I don't do feathers.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 05:59:47 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03171
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 05:59:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00183C63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:30:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14151439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 13:30:24 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VHUKG20288 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:30:20 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6VHUKsS329425 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          13:30:20 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <001d01c238b7$f1963980$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:30:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: What a Mad Wasp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D45CA81.4F214CAA@maynor.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:07 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: What a Mad Wasp
>
>
> I just got attacked in the neck by a wasp spitting fury.  But then I
> guess I'd be mad also if somebody had just knocked down my
> house with a
> broom handle.  That wasp was madder than a wet hornet.  Why are wet
> hornets mad, btw?  In any case, my neck sure is sore.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>

Lucky you did not go into shock.

alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 06:00:38 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03184
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 06:00:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000555@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:31:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14150889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 13:31:16 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VHLGG18900 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:21:16 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6VHLGsp026606 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:21:16 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207311319560.7681-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:21:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOECDFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

I have used only a fitted bottom sheet and a comforter (sometimes with
cover) for many years.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 06:17:03 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03196
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 06:17:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000005B2@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:47:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14152634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 13:47:25 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VHlPG23003 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:47:25 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-161.panax.com
          [63.163.41.161]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6VHlQn10472 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          13:47:26 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOECDFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731134606.00a13a40@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:47:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731170059.2D13B822C@yellow.rahul.net>

>S Hess said:
> > The first time I slept with a duvet was in Frankfurt. I was hooked. When I
> > came home, I chucked all my flat sheets. Now it's just a fitted sheet and a
> > covered duvet. Perfect.
>
>I do this, except I don't cover the comforter. (But the comforter is
>washable--I don't do feathers.)     --Karen

Do you untuck the top sheet in a hotel also??  I would think your tiny feet
seldom see the end of the bed.  :-)


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 06:17:47 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03203
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 06:17:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000005B5@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:48:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14152679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 13:48:25 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VHmPG23100 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:48:25 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0400M7YK4O86@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:48:24 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020731144954.5120B8DF5@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D482286.1060906@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:46:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:

>>>I want to be in Corfu.
>>>
>>Me too!
>>
>
> I'd take you with me!:)
>


Good.  I feel like travelling.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 06:49:57 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03228
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 06:49:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00184199@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:20:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14154430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 14:20:34 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VIAYG26814 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:10:34 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96823632F for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:10:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6VIAXB30080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:10:33
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020731094840.0308ee50@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020731080723.D049C8BD1@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731123245.030df578@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020731131033.A30003@pobox.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:10:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020731123245.030df578@victoria.nb.no>; from
              Espen.Ore@NB.NO on Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 12:34:34PM +0200

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 12:34:34PM +0200, Espen Ore wrote:
> 01:07 31.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> >Espen Ore said:
> > > >Hangovers, however are Bad Things.
> > >
> > > They are good for you.
> >
> >Er, why???
>
> One Asterix story claims that the reason for the fall of the Roman Empire
> was that Asterix and Obelix had invented a cure for hangovers. When the
> Romans started to use this medicine it meant that they could drink as much
> as they wished and still survive next morning. (Asterix as Gladiator, I
> believe)

Americans have no idea who Asterix is.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 06:56:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03235
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 06:56:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00184261@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:27:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14155684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 14:27:20 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VIRKG29098 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:27:20 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6VIRHsS030462 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          14:27:20 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <002c01c238bf$e86dbc90$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:27:18 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Netflix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020730174047.00a71c60@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Betty
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:41 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Netflix
>
>
> We just got a DVD player. Should I sign up for Netflix?
>
> Betty
>
> At 03:09 PM 7/30/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >On a good note: I rec'd my latest Netflix... PINERO. I've
> been looking
> >forward to that.
> >
> >Sandra
>

YES! We love it.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:03:03 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03252
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:03:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000006D1@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:33:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14156116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 14:33:38 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe27.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.84]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VIXcG30105 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:33:38 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          31 Jul 2002 11:33:32 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.154.5]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2002 18:33:32.0877 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C621B7D0:01C238C0]
Message-ID:  <OE27jfJNVzTPZENux6i000042ca@hotmail.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:35:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Americans have no idea who Asterix is.

Perhaps some among us have no idea who Americans are

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:03:30 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03259
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:03:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001842F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:34:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14156148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 14:34:07 -0400
Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VIY6G30177 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:34:06 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id
          c.169.115f2366 (18559) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul
          2002 14:33:56 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g6VIY7G30178
Message-ID:  <169.115f2366.2a798794@aol.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:33:56 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/31/2002 11:17:40 AM Central Daylight Time,
prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes:

<<
I have applied for a job in Toronto.  Though I'd rather not be too
specific at this point, it is enough to say that the job posting
detailed requirements that could have been written directly from my
résumé.
>>

Keeping fingers, toes, and paws crossed!

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:06:10 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03263
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:06:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000006E2@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:36:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14156280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 14:36:46 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VIakG30432 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:36:46 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6VIhZS03165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:43:35
          +0200
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020731094840.0308ee50@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020731080723.D049C8BD1@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731123245.030df578@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020731131033.A30003@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020731204335.A3147@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:43:35 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731131033.A30003@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on
              Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 01:10:33PM -0500

=
= Americans have no idea who Asterix is.

Oh come on.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:07:10 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03270
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:07:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000006E5@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:37:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14156313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 14:37:47 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VIbkG30622 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:37:46 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6VIiZV03174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:44:35
          +0200
References: <001e01c238a8$21a02600$360332d1@0018079268>
            <3D47D52F.31220.E9D3D2@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020731204435.B3147@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:44:35 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D47D52F.31220.E9D3D2@localhost>; from prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU
              on Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 12:16:48PM -0400

= There are lots of risks even if the money is ok and the work permit
= issues work out - but at least it is a step - a learning experience
= about the process if nothing else.
=
= BrP

Yow!

Good luck.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:09:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03274
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:09:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00184387@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:39:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14156469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 14:39:38 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6VIdbG30934 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          14:39:37 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6VIdb2102736 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul
          2002 14:39:37 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKECHFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:38:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731134606.00a13a40@pop3.norton.antivirus>

> >S Hess said:
> > > The first time I slept with a duvet was in Frankfurt. I was
> hooked. When I
> > > came home, I chucked all my flat sheets. Now it's just a
> fitted sheet and a
> > > covered duvet. Perfect.
> >
> >I do this, except I don't cover the comforter. (But the comforter is
> >washable--I don't do feathers.)     --Karen
>
> Do you untuck the top sheet in a hotel also??  I would think your
> tiny feet
> seldom see the end of the bed.  :-)
>
>
>     --bonniev

I untuck the whole dang sheet. And I usually remove the spread and toss it
in a corner of the room. I generously tip the hotel maids to compensate for
the mess I make.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:09:31 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03278
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:09:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000006F3@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:40:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14156502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 14:40:07 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6VIe7G31019 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          14:40:07 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g6VIe6295444 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          14:40:06 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOECHFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:38:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731131033.A30003@pobox.com>

> On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 12:34:34PM +0200, Espen Ore wrote:

> Americans have no idea who Asterix is.

I do...but I don't *get* it.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:09:45 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03282
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:09:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000006F4@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:40:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14156511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 14:40:21 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VIeLG31043 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:40:21 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc70 ([204.127.198.53]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020731184016.SWFY22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:40:16 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc70; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:40:14 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020731184016.SWFY22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:40:14 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Netflix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I just cancelled my subscription. My decision was based
on having had the same three movies in my house for
something like two months. I'm simply not home enough to
watch movies and when I am home I'm either too tired or
too busy.

When I was single, had a less intensive job, didn't coach
and play on any teams and generally had more time to
myself, I would have appreciated the subscription  more.

The reason I tried the service was there weren't any
movies I could think of that they didn't have. I liked
the fact that I could think of a movie I hadn't seen
before or in a long, long time and have it in a day or two.

lisa
> We just got a DVD player. Should I sign up for Netflix?
>
> Betty
>
> At 03:09 PM 7/30/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >On a good note: I rec'd my latest Netflix... PINERO. I've been looking
> >forward to that.
> >
> >Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:11:34 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03286
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:11:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000006FE@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:42:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14156640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 14:42:11 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VIgAG31399 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:42:10 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6VIn0x03199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:49:00
          +0200
References: <F1710Ja8v9lZfkI1ylz00017e45@hotmail.com>
            <20020730095314.D26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730082510.B45397@pobox.com>
            <20020730155824.A26999@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730100337.A72000@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020731204859.C3147@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:48:59 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020730100337.A72000@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on
              Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 10:03:37AM -0500

On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 10:03:37AM -0500, Tushar Samant wrote:
= On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 03:58:24PM +0200, steph wrote:
= >
= > = > Cafetieria food may nourish your body, but it's a long haul for
= > = > nourishing the soul.
= > =
= > = Hm, you may be further gone than I thought!
= >
= > Which side of this argument are you on, bucko?
=
= Argument, "Steph"? There is no argument. Come on, then! I simply claim
= that something is very wrong when mere food spoken of as "nourishing
= the soul". Leads me to exclaim "pah", begging your pardon. Now allow
= me to forward a hypothesis of a personal nature, no confirmation needed
= of course. I see your childhood as being relatively deficient in good
= and bounteous food. Meals were perhaps rather boring, merely functional.
= My experience has been so uniform in this respect that tall claims about
= food bring no other theory to my mind.

You have no clue.  I was mentally preparing a list for you the
other day, and it will take some time to cope with a set of
childhood reminiscenses of dinners, lunches, snacks, birthday
parties, special outings etc.

I would probably do better to get to some merely functional
meals, but I bore of them so utterly quickly.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:17:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03299
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:17:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00184484@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:48:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14157079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 14:48:32 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VImWG32391 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:48:32 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24287 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:48:26 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 31 Jul 02
          14:48:26 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 31 Jul 02 14:47:59 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D47F89A.2769.1742FBD@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:47:54 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <OE27jfJNVzTPZENux6i000042ca@hotmail.com>

I missed the original post that is quoted here.  Who said such a
foolish thing?  I have been an Asterix fan for at least 30 years.

BrP


> > Americans have no idea who Asterix is.
>
> Perhaps some among us have no idea who Americans are
>
> AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:19:24 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03310
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:19:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000072F@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:50:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14157201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 14:50:01 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VIo0G32602 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:50:00 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24820 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:49:59 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 31 Jul 02
          14:49:59 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 31 Jul 02 14:49:31 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D47D52F.31220.E9D3D2@localhost>; from prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU   
            on Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 12:16:48PM -0400
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D47F8F7.12740.1759C79@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:49:28 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731204435.B3147@yoccoz.multinix.com>

Thanks Steph - and thanks Evelyn, Karen and Alyce, too.

BrP



>
> Good luck.
>
> steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:26:22 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03321
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:26:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000075F@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:56:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14157685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 14:56:57 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VIuvG01326 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:56:57 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-222.panax.com
          [63.163.41.222]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6VIuwn24607 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          14:56:58 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020731131033.A30003@pobox.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731094840.0308ee50@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020731080723.D049C8BD1@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731123245.030df578@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020731131033.A30003@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731145631.009ee830@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:56:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731204335.A3147@yoccoz.multinix.com>

>= Americans have no idea who Asterix is.
>
>Oh come on.

I have no idea who Asterix is.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:28:43 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03325
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:28:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001845A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:59:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14157922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 14:59:19 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VIxJG01831 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:59:19 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6VIxIh16797
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:59:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D47D52F.31220.E9D3D2@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g6VIxJG01832
Message-ID:  <3D483591.9B218C87@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:08:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Good luck!

Betty

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> I have applied for a job in Toronto.  Though I'd rather not be too
> specific at this point, it is enough to say that the job posting
> detailed requirements that could have been written directly from my
> résumé.  Whether it pays enough to make the move possible and
> whether they will consider a non-Canadian no matter how perfectly
> qualified are questions yet to be answered.  Today is the deadline
> for apps., so if they're interested, I should hear at least something
> fairly soon.
> There are lots of risks even if the money is ok and the work permit
> issues work out - but at least it is a step - a learning experience
> about the process if nothing else.
>
> BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:29:11 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03332
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:29:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000776@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:59:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14157945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 14:59:47 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VIxkG01874 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:59:46 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-222.panax.com
          [63.163.41.222]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6VIxmn25182 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          14:59:48 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020731204435.B3147@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <3D47D52F.31220.E9D3D2@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731145745.009ee190@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:59:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D47F8F7.12740.1759C79@localhost>

>Thanks Steph - and thanks Evelyn, Karen and Alyce, too.
>BrP

I also wish you well and take this opportunity to say that I met the nicest
couple from Toronto last night.  They were staying at the Inn where I was
doing my thing from noon until nine last night.  They seemed very
interested in Bar Harbor, however.  They were asking the kind of detailed
questions that made me think they would love to move here.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:35:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03387
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:35:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00184666@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:06:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14158494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 15:06:00 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VJ60G03047 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:06:00 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust58.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.60]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004333939@mx0.inoc.net>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:05:57 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D48358E.4932FB14@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:07:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      censorship
Comments: To: school <jeffr@monm.edu>
Comments: cc: doug <drankin@monm.edu>
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

July 31, 2002

N.M. Jail Accused of Banning Books
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


Filed at 2:24 p.m. ET

DEMING, N.M. (AP) -- An alleged book ban at a county jail blocks
prisoners
from reading anything but religious literature, a lawsuit charges.

Books recently rejected at the Luna County Detention Center included
``The
Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin,'' John Steinbeck's ``The Red Pony,''
and
H.G. Wells' ``The Invisible Man,'' according to Jeffrey Smith, one of
two
lawyers who filed the lawsuit Friday.

``The plaintiffs are equally restricted from reading Shakespeare as they
would be properly forbidden to possess manuals of how to escape from
jail,''
the lawsuit contends.

Luna County officials said there is no book ban. Jail director Ed
Gilmore
said he prohibits certain kinds of material, such as pornography,
violent
literature or hardcover books that could be used as weapons.

Jail manager Scott Vinson suggested there might have been a
misunderstanding
about the policy.

``Our policy is that everything that comes in has to be gone through. So
you
can bring in reading material, but it has to be checked for
contraband,'' he
said.
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:40:23 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03394
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:40:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000007C2@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:10:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14158963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 15:10:57 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VJAuG04118 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:10:56 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust58.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.60]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004334012@mx0.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 15:10:56 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4836B9.474810F3@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:12:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Netflix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Just checked my queue and of the seven listed, all are on waits. Five
say "short wait," including the one I've been waiting for since May, one
is "long wait," and one says "New," which I translate into long wait as
soon as they get it.
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:43:31 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03403
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:43:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000007D1@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:14:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14158271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 15:14:07 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VJ47G02627 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:04:07 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA2E71E6 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:04:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6VJ46V13438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:04:06
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <OE27jfJNVzTPZENux6i000042ca@hotmail.com>
            <3D47F89A.2769.1742FBD@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020731140406.A13394@pobox.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:04:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D47F89A.2769.1742FBD@localhost>; from prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU
              on Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:47:54PM -0400

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:47:54PM -0400, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:
> I missed the original post that is quoted here.  Who said such a
> foolish thing?  I have been an Asterix fan for at least 30 years.

All right, Paul and Amy have a profound knowledge of who Asterix
is. Now go out and ask a large number of kids. I am begging you.



> > > Americans have no idea who Asterix is.
> >
> > Perhaps some among us have no idea who Americans are

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:45:46 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03415
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:45:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000007DF@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:16:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14158548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 15:16:21 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VJ6LG03130 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:06:21 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7F2735D for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:06:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6VJ6KU13528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:06:20
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <F1710Ja8v9lZfkI1ylz00017e45@hotmail.com>
            <20020730095314.D26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730082510.B45397@pobox.com>
            <20020730155824.A26999@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730100337.A72000@pobox.com>
            <20020731204859.C3147@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020731140620.B13394@pobox.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:06:20 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731204859.C3147@yoccoz.multinix.com>; from
              stevie@MULTINIX.COM on Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 08:48:59PM +0200

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 08:48:59PM +0200, steph wrote:
> = Argument, "Steph"? There is no argument. Come on, then! I simply claim
> = that something is very wrong when mere food spoken of as "nourishing
> = the soul". Leads me to exclaim "pah", begging your pardon. Now allow
> = me to forward a hypothesis of a personal nature, no confirmation needed
> = of course. I see your childhood as being relatively deficient in good
> = and bounteous food. Meals were perhaps rather boring, merely functional.
> = My experience has been so uniform in this respect that tall claims about
> = food bring no other theory to my mind.
>
> You have no clue.  I was mentally preparing a list for you the
> other day, and it will take some time to cope with a set of
> childhood reminiscenses of dinners, lunches, snacks, birthday
> parties, special outings etc.
>
> I would probably do better to get to some merely functional
> meals, but I bore of them so utterly quickly.

Well, you are the exception, then. Then again you are not among
the worst rhapsodizers ...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:46:45 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03421
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:46:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000007E6@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:17:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14159474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 15:17:15 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VJHFG05338 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:17:15 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06681 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:17:11 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 31 Jul 02
          15:17:12 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 31 Jul 02 15:17:01 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D47F89A.2769.1742FBD@localhost>; from prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU   
            on Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:47:54PM -0400
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D47FF6B.13606.18ED395@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:17:00 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731140406.A13394@pobox.com>

I have no problem with "most Americans have no idea who Asterix
is."

Please don't beg.  It is unbecoming.

BrP




> On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:47:54PM -0400, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:
> > I missed the original post that is quoted here.  Who said such a
> > foolish thing?  I have been an Asterix fan for at least 30 years.
>
> All right, Paul and Amy have a profound knowledge of who Asterix
> is. Now go out and ask a large number of kids. I am begging you.
>
>
>
> > > > Americans have no idea who Asterix is.
> > >
> > > Perhaps some among us have no idea who Americans are

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:52:35 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03425
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:52:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001848A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:22:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14159963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 15:22:56 -0400
Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VJMmG06495 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:22:48 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id
          c.153.11ae5650 (18559) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul
          2002 15:22:37 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <153.11ae5650.2a7992fd@aol.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:22:37 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: censorship
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/31/2002 2:06:13 PM Central Daylight Time,
alybooks@VALSTAR.NET writes:

<<
DEMING, N.M. (AP) -- An alleged book ban at a county jail blocks
prisoners
from reading anything but religious literature, a lawsuit charges.


>>

Christian literature, or will they be able to read the Bhagavad-Gita
or Dianetics?

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:54:37 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03432
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:54:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000080F@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:25:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14160109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 15:25:12 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VJPCG06925 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:25:12 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g6VJOwsS084191 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          15:24:58 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000601c238c7$f61dca30$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:24:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207311058190.24528-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bethany K. Dumas
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:01 AM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: No Finland
>
>
> Natalie, I don't know where/when you will collect those drinks
> (3?) that you have decided I owe you. I will not be able to
> go to Methods
> XI - a court case in a nearby state requires my attention the next two
> weeks.
>
> Bethany
>

All that fucking talk about the trip and you are NOT going. I am
horrified and upset. Waste of our time.

How much is the University eating on the ticket?




alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:58:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03439
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 07:58:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00184963@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:29:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14160408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 15:29:09 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VJT9G07475 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:29:09 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust58.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.60]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005649991@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 15:29:08 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE27jfJNVzTPZENux6i000042ca@hotmail.com>
            <3D47F89A.2769.1742FBD@localhost> <20020731140406.A13394@pobox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D483AFC.569B1512@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:31:08 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:
>
> All right, Paul and Amy have a profound knowledge of who Asterix
> is. Now go out and ask a large number of kids. I am begging you.
>
My knowledge of Asterix is not profound, but we have discussed him on
this <service> in the past, so I know about him.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 08:00:31 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03453
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 08:00:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000833@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:31:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14160503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 15:31:07 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VJV6G07689 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:31:07 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0400FYNOVU7S@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:31:06 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F1710Ja8v9lZfkI1ylz00017e45@hotmail.com>
            <20020730095314.D26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730082510.B45397@pobox.com>
            <20020730155824.A26999@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730100337.A72000@pobox.com>
            <20020731204859.C3147@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020731140620.B13394@pobox.com>
Message-ID:  <3D483A98.4090209@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:29:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 08:48:59PM +0200, steph wrote:
>
>>= Argument, "Steph"? There is no argument. Come on, then! I simply claim
>>= that something is very wrong when mere food spoken of as "nourishing
>>= the soul". Leads me to exclaim "pah", begging your pardon. Now allow
>>= me to forward a hypothesis of a personal nature, no confirmation needed
>>= of course. I see your childhood as being relatively deficient in good
>>= and bounteous food. Meals were perhaps rather boring, merely functional.
>>= My experience has been so uniform in this respect that tall claims about
>>= food bring no other theory to my mind.
>>
>>You have no clue.  I was mentally preparing a list for you the
>>other day, and it will take some time to cope with a set of
>>childhood reminiscenses of dinners, lunches, snacks, birthday
>>parties, special outings etc.
>>
>>I would probably do better to get to some merely functional
>>meals, but I bore of them so utterly quickly.
>>
>
> Well, you are the exception, then. Then again you are not among
> the worst rhapsodizers ...


        Today at lunch, I took four slices of Italian bread and
spread them thinly with unsalted butter, made two cheese
sandwiches with Borden American singles, and grilled them
until the bread was a lovely shade of brown and crispy, and
the cheese was hot and oozey.  Ana and I complemented our
sandwiches with tall glasses of ice water.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 08:03:08 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03457
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 08:03:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001849EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:33:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14160684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 15:33:43 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VJXhG08071 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:33:43 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14777 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:33:40 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 31 Jul 02
          15:33:40 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 31 Jul 02 15:33:35 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D480349.22075.19DF033@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:33:30 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D483A98.4090209@swbell.net>

one of my favorites!
except I add thin slices of tomato and a little good mustard

BrP





>         Today at lunch, I took four slices of Italian bread and
> spread them thinly with unsalted butter, made two cheese
> sandwiches with Borden American singles, and grilled them
> until the bread was a lovely shade of brown and crispy, and
> the cheese was hot and oozey.  Ana and I complemented our
> sandwiches with tall glasses of ice water.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita
>
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 08:14:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03464
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 08:14:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00184B12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:45:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14160730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 15:45:12 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VJZCG08245 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:35:12 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6VJZBsp020433 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:35:11 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207311534030.9389-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:35:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000601c238c7$f61dca30$48305b80@EAGLE72>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Alec D. Plotkin wrote:

>How much is the University eating on the ticket?

That remains to be seen - probably none - but possibly the airline
ticket. My presentation will probably be given by another person.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 08:18:41 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03476
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 08:18:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000088C@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:49:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14161563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 15:49:16 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VJnGG10293 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:49:16 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.47]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H04PNY00.3PG for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:47:58 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <OE27jfJNVzTPZENux6i000042ca@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D483F06.E9F1B2E1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:48:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Amy Burns Short wrote:

> > Americans have no idea who Asterix is.
>
> Perhaps some among us have no idea who Americans are

    And some of us wonder if Netflix has the Asterix movie.

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 08:36:43 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03492
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 08:36:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000091C@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:07:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14163474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 16:07:17 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VK7GG14195 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:07:16 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00195 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:06:49 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 31 Jul 02
          16:06:49 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 31 Jul 02 16:06:21 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D480AF9.8169.1BBF4CA@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:06:18 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      I just don't understand
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D483F06.E9F1B2E1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>

Even within the senseless world of Israeli-Palestinian violence the
bombing of an International Students' center is a senseless act.
Some, in response to chargess that they target civilians, say that
all "occupiers" are a tool of the oppression and therefore not
civilians - or that everyone of a particular political ideology is a
potential warrior.  Even within that context, the bombing of
International students makes no sense.
At one level, I don't understand any of the violence on either side.
But at least I can figure out how the perpetrators could convince
themselves that its use would advance their cause.  This latest
bombing just seems to be destruction for the sake of destruction.
I just don't understand.

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 09:08:17 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03535
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 09:08:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000009FC@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:38:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14166247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 16:38:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VKcnq19705 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:38:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5264D82BE; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 13:38:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731203848.5264D82BE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:38:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731134606.00a13a40@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 31, 2002  1:47:17 pm"

bonniev said:
> >S Hess said:
> > > The first time I slept with a duvet was in Frankfurt. I was hooked. When I
> > > came home, I chucked all my flat sheets. Now it's just a fitted sheet and a
> > > covered duvet. Perfect.
> >
> >I do this, except I don't cover the comforter. (But the comforter is
> >washable--I don't do feathers.)     --Karen
>
> Do you untuck the top sheet in a hotel also??  I would think your tiny feet
> seldom see the end of the bed.  :-)

My feet aren't tiny, but my squat pudgy legs are very short. So no, I
don't bother untucking the sheet, except along the side.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 09:10:52 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03542
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 09:10:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000A0B@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:41:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14166426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 16:41:24 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VKfOq20020 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:41:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7554E7FEE; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 13:41:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731204122.7554E7FEE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:41:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D482286.1060906@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Jul 31,
              2002 12:46:46 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Rita Chapman said:
> >>>I want to be in Corfu.
> >>>
> >>Me too!
> >>
> >
> > I'd take you with me!:)
> >
>
>
> Good.  I feel like travelling.

Well, chances are slim I'll be going.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 09:11:52 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03549
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 09:11:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001851D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:42:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14166459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 16:42:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VKgPq20124 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:42:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 99A8D7FDC; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 13:42:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731204222.99A8D7FDC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:42:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731131033.A30003@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Jul 31,
              2002  1:10:33 pm"

Tushar Samant said:
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 12:34:34PM +0200, Espen Ore wrote:
> > 01:07 31.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> > >Espen Ore said:
> > > > >Hangovers, however are Bad Things.
> > > >
> > > > They are good for you.
> > >
> > >Er, why???
> >
> > One Asterix story claims that the reason for the fall of the Roman Empire
> > was that Asterix and Obelix had invented a cure for hangovers. When the
> > Romans started to use this medicine it meant that they could drink as much
> > as they wished and still survive next morning. (Asterix as Gladiator, I
> > believe)
>
> Americans have no idea who Asterix is.

Uh-oh, I guess I'm not American, then.

How sad to lose my citizenship over a comic book...

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 09:16:07 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03576
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 09:16:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000A26@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:46:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14166713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 16:46:41 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VKkeq20583 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:46:40 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6VKkeK10098
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:46:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020731203848.5264D82BE@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D484EBB.E6EC6B8C@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:55:23 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> bonniev said:
> > >S Hess said:
> > > > The first time I slept with a duvet was in Frankfurt. I was hooked. When I
> > > > came home, I chucked all my flat sheets. Now it's just a fitted sheet and a
> > > > covered duvet. Perfect.
> > >
> > >I do this, except I don't cover the comforter. (But the comforter is
> > >washable--I don't do feathers.)     --Karen
> >
> > Do you untuck the top sheet in a hotel also??  I would think your tiny feet
> > seldom see the end of the bed.  :-)
>
> My feet aren't tiny, but my squat pudgy legs are very short. So no, I
> don't bother untucking the sheet, except along the side.

I wish they would stop tucking the sides in!  *ar* doesn't like them
tucked in either.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 09:19:34 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03587
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 09:19:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001852AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:50:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14166945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 16:50:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VKo7q21127 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:50:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B74977FF6; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 13:50:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731205006.B74977FF6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:50:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D484EBB.E6EC6B8C@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Jul 31,
              2002  1:55:23 pm"

Betty said:
> I wish they would stop tucking the sides in!  *ar* doesn't like them
> tucked in either.

*ar*... Could that be Oleandar????

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 09:25:17 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03591
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 09:25:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000A67@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:55:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14167499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 16:55:50 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VKtnq22373 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:55:49 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020731205543.QWEL23732.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:55:43 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D483F06.E9F1B2E1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731131934.01f42db0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:50:50 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: I just don't understand
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D480AF9.8169.1BBF4CA@localhost>

Paul R. Barfoot writes,

>I just don't understand.

Terrorists (or freedom-fighting guerrillas, depending which side you're on)
don't target "warriors," not even civilians rationalized into "potential
warriors."  They pick targets to create pain in the hope of provoking a
response.  Random civilian targets are both easier and more provocative to
hit than military ones.  Involving international civilians just broadens
the provocativeness.

It's sad that people get objectified into "targets" in war.  But that's not
unique to this situation.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 09:31:53 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03607
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 09:31:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000AE0@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:02:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14167310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 17:02:25 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VKqPq21900 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:52:25 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109CF6E59 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:52:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6VKqOg16259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:52:24
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D47F89A.2769.1742FBD@localhost>;
            <20020731140406.A13394@pobox.com> <3D47FF6B.13606.18ED395@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020731155224.A16233@pobox.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:52:24 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D47FF6B.13606.18ED395@localhost>; from prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU
              on Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 03:17:00PM -0400

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 03:17:00PM -0400, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:
> I have no problem with "most Americans have no idea who Asterix
> is."
>
> Please don't beg.  It is unbecoming.

What do you think "Americans have no idea who Asterix is" means?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 09:35:55 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03611
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 09:35:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000B14@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:06:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14169227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 17:06:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VL6Sq24276 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:06:28 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9FB588164; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 14:06:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731210627.9FB588164@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:06:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731155224.A16233@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Jul 31,
              2002  3:52:24 pm"

Tushar Samant said:
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 03:17:00PM -0400, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:
> > I have no problem with "most Americans have no idea who Asterix
> > is."
> >
> > Please don't beg.  It is unbecoming.
>
> What do you think "Americans have no idea who Asterix is" means?

I thought it was your subtle way of personally insulting me.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 09:36:52 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03618
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 09:36:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000B19@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:07:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14167627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 17:07:22 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VKvMq22653 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:57:22 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6407008 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:57:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6VKvLV16536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:57:21
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <F1710Ja8v9lZfkI1ylz00017e45@hotmail.com>
            <20020730095314.D26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730082510.B45397@pobox.com>
            <20020730155824.A26999@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730100337.A72000@pobox.com>
            <20020731204859.C3147@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020731140620.B13394@pobox.com> <3D483A98.4090209@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020731155721.B16233@pobox.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:57:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D483A98.4090209@swbell.net>; from rouvalis@SWBELL.NET on Wed,
              Jul 31, 2002 at 02:29:28PM -0500

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:29:28PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote:
>         Today at lunch, I took four slices of Italian bread and
> spread them thinly with unsalted butter, made two cheese
> sandwiches with Borden American singles, and grilled them
> until the bread was a lovely shade of brown and crispy, and
> the cheese was hot and oozey.  Ana and I complemented our
> sandwiches with tall glasses of ice water.

Mind your business.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 09:38:01 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03622
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 09:38:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000B1F@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:08:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14169367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 17:08:34 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VL8Xq24540 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:08:33 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-203.panax.com
          [63.163.41.203]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6VL8Zn19521 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          17:08:35 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020731155224.A16233@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731170803.00a0db50@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:08:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731210627.9FB588164@yellow.rahul.net>

> > What do you think "Americans have no idea who Asterix is" means?
>
>I thought it was your subtle way of personally insulting me.
>Karen

I thought it was your way of pointing out my vast stupidity.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 09:40:59 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03626
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 09:40:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000B31@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:11:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14169579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 17:11:31 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VLBUq25053 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:11:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 089568164; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 14:11:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020731211130.089568164@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:11:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731170803.00a0db50@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 31, 2002  5: 8:24 pm"

bonniev said:
> > > What do you think "Americans have no idea who Asterix is" means?
> >
> >I thought it was your subtle way of personally insulting me.
> >Karen
>
> I thought it was your way of pointing out my vast stupidity.

Ca va sans dire. :)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 10:48:28 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03687
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 10:48:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000C89@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:18:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14173694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 18:18:59 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VMIxq01067 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:18:59 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust75.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.77]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005653261@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 18:18:59 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4862C8.11B6200C@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:20:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/29/afterlife.argument.reut/index.html
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:06:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03723
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 11:06:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00185CA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:36:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14174581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 18:36:30 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VMaUq03155 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:36:30 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g6VMaSW05347 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:36:28 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207311733190.5138-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:36:28 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: I just don't understand
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D480AF9.8169.1BBF4CA@localhost>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

> themselves that its use would advance their cause.  This latest
> bombing just seems to be destruction for the sake of destruction.
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> I just don't understand.

I think it is what it seems to you.  I figure any territory in Israel is
enemy territory to them, anyway.  And they may hate moderate
intelligentsia of both sides worse than militants on Israel's side.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:26:10 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03775
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 11:26:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00185E2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:56:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14175394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 18:56:40 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VMueq04806 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:56:40 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws66-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.66]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6VMuU704968
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:56:32 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207311058190.24528-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D486AEC.30FAA715@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:55:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:
>
> Natalie, I don't know where/when you will collect those drinks
> (3?) that you have decided I owe you. I will not be able to go to Methods
> XI - a court case in a nearby state requires my attention the next two
> weeks.

Heavens!  What an eleventh-hour change in plans.  Who's going to read
your paper?  My emergency plan (I always have an emergency plan in mind
in case something happens like sickness or death) is to e-mail or fax my
paper to one of the local hosts, probably Marku in this case, and hope
that somebody is around who would be willing to read it.  Conference
hosts are always expecting last-minute hassles, as you know, and I'm
sure they'd rather find a willing reader than have a blank space on the
program.  I'd volunteer to read it for you except that I'd really,
really rather not since I think I remember that it's on the day I'm
planning on skipping out and wandering with my railpass, considering
that I'm a retiree and don't need to be conscientious.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:27:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03782
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 11:27:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00185E3F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:57:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14174926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 18:57:37 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VMlbq04093 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:47:37 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487F760E0 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:47:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6VMlbD48427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:47:37
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020731155224.A16233@pobox.com>
            <20020731210627.9FB588164@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020731174737.H45240@pobox.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:47:37 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731210627.9FB588164@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:06:27PM -0700

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:06:27PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> Tushar Samant said:
> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 03:17:00PM -0400, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:
> > > I have no problem with "most Americans have no idea who Asterix
> > > is."
> > >
> > > Please don't beg.  It is unbecoming.
> >
> > What do you think "Americans have no idea who Asterix is" means?
>
> I thought it was your subtle way of personally insulting me.

I am a lot more subtle than that, K*R*N.

Anyway, I said "Americans don't <blah> <blah>" and here's two people
raising their hands and saying "I do!"

What the hell.

A whole list of freakin front-bench nerds .. the horror, O the horror

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:30:04 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03795
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 11:30:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000D2F@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:00:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14174981 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:00:35 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VMoZq04251 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:50:35 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99DA6459 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:50:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6VMoYV48592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:50:34
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D480AF9.8169.1BBF4CA@localhost>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207311733190.5138-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020731175034.I45240@pobox.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:50:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: I just don't understand
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207311733190.5138-100000@og1.olagrande.net>; from
              aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET on Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 05:36:28PM -0500

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 05:36:28PM -0500, Ann Borkin wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:
>
> > themselves that its use would advance their cause.  This latest
> > bombing just seems to be destruction for the sake of destruction.
>                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > I just don't understand.
>
> I think it is what it seems to you.  I figure any territory in Israel is
> enemy territory to them, anyway.  And they may hate moderate
> intelligentsia of both sides worse than militants on Israel's side.

Another point would be that anything that makes it impossible
to live normally is a good thing.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:30:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03799
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 11:30:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00185E8C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:00:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14175694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:00:49 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VN0nq05354 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:00:49 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws66-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.66]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6VN0l706222
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:00:47 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D47D52F.31220.E9D3D2@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D486C1D.1E1E3ED7@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:00:45 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:

> whether they will consider a non-Canadian no matter how perfectly
> qualified are questions yet to be answered.

I don't know what the situation is now, but in 1970 non-Canadians
weren't hired unless there was absolutely no Canadian remotely qualified
for the position.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:34:15 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03803
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 11:34:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000D3E@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:04:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14175826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:04:45 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VN4jq05692 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:04:45 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws66-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.66]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6VN4g707211
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:04:43 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207311214200.7681-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D486D09.A1CE304@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:04:41 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> It is, but it isn't. I would love to make the trip and go to the conf.,
> but what is happening in Ga. is so important and exciting that I simply
> chose the more important thing to do.

Doesn't this have bad effects on your <primary> job?  Like is it
considered ok there to decide that your lawyer stuff is more important
than your full-time job?

> It may be possible to get an airline refund -

My ticket is non-refundable, although in cases of things like the death
of an immediate family member you can change the ticket to another time
for a smallish fee.  I don't think that would be true in the case of
choosing to do something else.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:44:49 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03810
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 11:44:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00185F8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:15:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14176112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:15:18 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNFIq06577 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:15:18 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws141-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.141]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6VNFF710244
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:15:16 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOECDFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D486F2E.6B3A96FF@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:13:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:

>  I no longer have to untuck the sheets at the bottom
> of the bed. That's the first thing I do when I get to an american hotel.

What does this mean?  Why would you untuck the sheets?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:45:29 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03822
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 11:45:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00185F92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:15:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14176123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:15:59 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNFxq06606 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:15:59 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws141-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.141]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6VNFu710425
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:15:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <001d01c238b7$f1963980$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D486FAB.99BDF620@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:15:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What a Mad Wasp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:

> Lucky you did not go into shock.

I'd forgotten how much wasp stings hurt, but why would I go into shock?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:46:36 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03826
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 11:46:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00185FA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:17:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14176153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:17:05 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNH5q06718 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:17:05 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws141-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.141]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6VNH2710658
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:17:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020731094840.0308ee50@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020731080723.D049C8BD1@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731123245.030df578@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020731131033.A30003@pobox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D486FED.9C9EFCDD@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:17:01 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar Samant wrote:

> Americans have no idea who Asterix is.

Wrongo.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:50:52 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03830
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 11:50:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000D63@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:21:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14176277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:21:21 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNLLq07059 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:21:21 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws141-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.141]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6VNLI711858
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:21:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <000601c238c7$f61dca30$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4870EC.9BEE58BD@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:21:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:

> How much is the University eating on the ticket?

You've gotta be kidding.  I don't know how it works at UT, of course,
but I can't imagine that any university would provide funding for a trip
not taken.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:53:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03837
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 11:53:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00185FFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:23:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14176345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:23:47 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNNlq07261 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:23:47 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws141-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.141]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6VNNh712541
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:23:44 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F1710Ja8v9lZfkI1ylz00017e45@hotmail.com>
            <20020730095314.D26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730082510.B45397@pobox.com>
            <20020730155824.A26999@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730100337.A72000@pobox.com>
            <20020731204859.C3147@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020731140620.B13394@pobox.com> <3D483A98.4090209@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D48717E.7A390FFE@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:23:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

>         Today at lunch, I took four slices of Italian bread and
> spread them thinly with unsalted butter, made two cheese
> sandwiches with Borden American singles, and grilled them
> until the bread was a lovely shade of brown and crispy, and
> the cheese was hot and oozey.  Ana and I complemented our
> sandwiches with tall glasses of ice water.

Although I can't imagine adding butter to a cheese sandwich, nor can I
imagine choosing Borden American singles, the general idea of your lunch
sounds ok to me.  (I would've used soy slices and lettuce and no
grilling.)  But mainly I want to know whether Lisa has arrived.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:56:29 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03844
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 11:56:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000D6A@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:26:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14176377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:26:58 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNQwq07436 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:26:58 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws141-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.141]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6VNQS713287
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:26:29 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207311534030.9389-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D487203.A1A4BE1@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:25:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >How much is the University eating on the ticket?
>
> That remains to be seen - probably none - but possibly the airline
> ticket. My presentation will probably be given by another person.

You've gotta be kidding.  You decided that your <hobby> is more
important than your <job>, and the university might pay for the unused
plane ticket??

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:58:28 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03851
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 11:58:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000D70@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:28:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14176448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:28:57 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNSvq07641 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:28:57 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws141-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.141]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g6VNSt713817
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:28:55 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D480AF9.8169.1BBF4CA@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4872B6.E1B9D539@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:28:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: I just don't understand
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:

> I just don't understand.

As somebody was saying on NPR this afternoon, anybody who would do that
kind of thing doesn't really care who all gets killed.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:01:57 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03862
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 12:01:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000D7C@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:32:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14176600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:32:27 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNWQq07981 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:32:26 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-85.panax.com
          [65.114.190.85]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6VNWSn14889 for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          19:32:28 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731193054.00a18a00@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:32:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      The Emperor of Ocean Park
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Don't bother.  I just finished reading this long novel by Stephen L. Carter
and found it not-that-good.  It was rambling and poorly plotted.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:05:11 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03866
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 12:05:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000D84@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:35:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14176700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:35:40 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNZdq08204 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:35:39 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-10.panax.com
          [65.114.190.10]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6VNZen15487 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          19:35:40 -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020731210627.9FB588164@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020731155224.A16233@pobox.com>
            <20020731210627.9FB588164@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731193332.00b60e58@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:33:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731174737.H45240@pobox.com>

At 05:47 PM 7/31/2002 -0500, tushar wrote:
>Anyway, I said "Americans don't <blah> <blah>" and here's two people
>raising their hands and saying "I do!"
>
>What the hell.
>
>A whole list of freakin front-bench nerds .. the horror, O the horror

Express yourself more clearly, please.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:09:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03873
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 12:09:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001860CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:39:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14176482 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:39:43 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNThq07711 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:29:43 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4CB674F for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:29:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g6VNTdU50102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:29:39
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020731094840.0308ee50@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020731080723.D049C8BD1@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731123245.030df578@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020731131033.A30003@pobox.com> <3D486FED.9C9EFCDD@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020731182939.A49967@pobox.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:29:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D486FED.9C9EFCDD@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Wed,
              Jul 31, 2002 at 06:17:01PM -0500

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 06:17:01PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> Tushar Samant wrote:
>
> > Americans have no idea who Asterix is.
>
> Wrongo.

They must have read it in Europe

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:12:12 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03880
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 12:12:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000D95@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:42:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14176884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:42:40 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNgeq08621 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:42:40 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020731234235.ISBX22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:42:35 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGEENBGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:45:35 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731045814.345D68009@yellow.rahul.net>

> Because it's dark. The only time I used to run in the dark was so I
> could get the sunrise over Diamondhead.
>
> Karen

Oh. It's not dark here at 6:15 now. It was in February, but that was only
for a few weeks. *shrug*

There's definitely a lot more automotive traffic now during the summer at
6:15 a.m. than there was during the winter and the spring. It's almost
annoying.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:13:01 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03887
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 12:13:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000D96@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:43:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14176906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:43:30 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNhTq08679 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:43:29 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6VNoKv03673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 01:50:20
          +0200
References: <OE27jfJNVzTPZENux6i000042ca@hotmail.com>
            <3D47F89A.2769.1742FBD@localhost> <20020731140406.A13394@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020801015020.A3659@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 01:50:20 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731140406.A13394@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on
              Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:04:06PM -0500

=
= All right, Paul and Amy have a profound knowledge of who Asterix
= is. Now go out and ask a large number of kids. I am begging you.
=

You said "Americans", not a large number of kids.  No fair
changing the sample on me.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:20:59 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03896
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 12:20:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000DA5@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:51:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14177107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:51:28 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNpRq09244 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:51:27 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g6VNwIS03682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 01:58:18
          +0200
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOECDFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <3D486F2E.6B3A96FF@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020801015818.B3659@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 01:58:18 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D486F2E.6B3A96FF@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Wed,
              Jul 31, 2002 at 06:13:50PM -0500

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 06:13:50PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote:
= S Hess wrote:
=
= >  I no longer have to untuck the sheets at the bottom
= > of the bed. That's the first thing I do when I get to an american hotel.
=
= What does this mean?  Why would you untuck the sheets?
=

Because I hate having the sheets tucked in!

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:22:02 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03903
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 12:22:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000DA7@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:52:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14177125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:52:31 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNqVq09316 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:52:31 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-85.panax.com
          [65.114.190.85]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g6VNqWn18442 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          19:52:32 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D486F2E.6B3A96FF@maynor.net>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOECDFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <3D486F2E.6B3A96FF@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731195149.00a0c580@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:52:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801015818.B3659@yoccoz.multinix.com>

>= What does this mean?  Why would you untuck the sheets?
>
>Because I hate having the sheets tucked in!
>steph

Me too.  I need my toes to be able to escape the bottom of the bed.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:23:04 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03911
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 12:23:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00186192@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:53:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14177143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:53:33 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNrWq09355 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:53:32 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g7100NB03702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 02:00:23
          +0200
References: <3D486F2E.6B3A96FF@maynor.net>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOECDFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <3D486F2E.6B3A96FF@maynor.net>
            <20020801015818.B3659@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020731195149.00a0c580@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020801020023.C3659@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 02:00:23 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731195149.00a0c580@pop3.norton.antivirus>; from
              bonniev@PANAX.COM on Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 07:52:19PM -0400

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 07:52:19PM -0400, bonniev wrote:
= >= What does this mean?  Why would you untuck the sheets?
= >
= >Because I hate having the sheets tucked in!
= >steph
=
= Me too.  I need my toes to be able to escape the bottom of the bed.
=

I am the opposite.  I like to curl the blanket under my feet.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:25:12 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03915
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 12:25:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000DAD@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:55:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14176951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:55:41 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNjfq08831 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:45:41 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6VNjesp024510 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:45:40 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207311941020.2568-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:45:40 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D486D09.A1CE304@maynor.net>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> It is, but it isn't. I would love to make the trip and go to the conf.,
>> but what is happening in Ga. is so important and exciting that I simply
>> chose the more important thing to do.
>
>Doesn't this have bad effects on your <primary> job?  Like is it
>considered ok there to decide that your lawyer stuff is more important
>than your full-time job?

I don't quite understnad your question. I don't really do "lawyer
stuff" - I do linguistic analysis in legal contexts. As you know, my
fulltime job requires a lot of research, and my language and law research
takes priority over my variation research. Both are important to me, but
one is far more important than the other, particularly in a context where
there is a chance to modify a gross injustice in the law by applying
linguistic analysis.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:25:36 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03919
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 12:25:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000DAE@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:56:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14177199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:56:05 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNu4q09501 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:56:05 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust252.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.254]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004339701@mx0.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:56:04 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D487988.564BC988@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:58:00 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      tearing my hair
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

There is this bookseller--sells to home schoolers all that religious
stuff--who always is asking questions about everything. We keep telling
her to Google, and today she finally said:

"It's odd, I never think of the internet to answer questions...just to
sell books. Anything else makes me twitchy."
--
I hardly can stand the ignorance.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:26:05 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03923
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 12:26:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000DAE@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:56:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14176969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:56:33 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNkXq08876 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:46:33 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6VNkWsp024888 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:46:32 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207311946060.2568-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:46:32 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D487203.A1A4BE1@maynor.net>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> >How much is the University eating on the ticket?
>>
>> That remains to be seen - probably none - but possibly the airline
>> ticket. My presentation will probably be given by another person.
>
>You've gotta be kidding.  You decided that your <hobby> is more
>important than your <job>, and the university might pay for the unused
>plane ticket??

Hobby?!? WTF are you talking about?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:27:42 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03927
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 12:27:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001861CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:58:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14177001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:58:08 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNm8q09015 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:48:08 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6VNm7sp025296 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:48:07 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207311947220.2568-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:48:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D486AEC.30FAA715@maynor.net>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>Heavens!  What an eleventh-hour change in plans.  Who's going to read
>your paper?

I am awaiting a response from Esa about that. You are definitly off the
hook - I remembered that you are leaving on Thurs.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:28:25 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03931
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 12:28:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000DB2@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:58:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14177253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:58:53 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VNwrq09673 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:58:53 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020731235847.JNRA22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:58:47 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGKENCGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:01:48 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: tearing my hair
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D487988.564BC988@valstar.net>

> stuff--who always is asking questions about everything. We keep telling
> her to Google, and today she finally said:
>
> "It's odd, I never think of the internet to answer questions...just to
> sell books. Anything else makes me twitchy."
> --
> I hardly can stand the ignorance.

Well, the Internet is different than a mailing list, of course.

;)

Since we're talking about ignorance, let me share my story of today. My dad
recently got a new desktop. In order to transfer a document from his old
laptop to his new desktop, he was going to: disconnect the printer from the
desktop, connect it to the laptop, print out said document, reconnect
printer to new computer, scan in printout.

I told him to copy the file onto a floppy and transfer it that way.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:32:14 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03941
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 12:32:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000DBC@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:02:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14177354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 20:02:42 -0400
Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7102gq09967 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:02:42 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id
          c.179.c39b57f (3874) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          20:02:38 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <179.c39b57f.2a79d49e@aol.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:02:38 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/31/2002 6:24:02 PM Central Daylight Time,
natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes:

<<
Although I can't imagine adding butter to a cheese sandwich, nor can I
imagine choosing Borden American singles, the general idea of your lunch
sounds ok to me.
>>

I always butter the outside of a grilled cheese sandwich before I grill it.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:44:59 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03945
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 12:44:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001862C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:15:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14177457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 20:15:27 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7105Qq10178 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:05:27 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00D06732 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:05:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g7105QI51413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:05:26
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <OE27jfJNVzTPZENux6i000042ca@hotmail.com>
            <3D47F89A.2769.1742FBD@localhost> <20020731140406.A13394@pobox.com>
            <20020801015020.A3659@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020731190526.A51245@pobox.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:05:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801015020.A3659@yoccoz.multinix.com>; from
              stevie@MULTINIX.COM on Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 01:50:20AM +0200

On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 01:50:20AM +0200, steph wrote:
> =
> = All right, Paul and Amy have a profound knowledge of who Asterix
> = is. Now go out and ask a large number of kids. I am begging you.
> =
>
> You said "Americans", not a large number of kids.  No fair
> changing the sample on me.

Unfortunately this came in after the thread was closed, sorry.
Meanwhile, let us ponder about the pragmatic sense of universal
quantifiers, and especially whether it's the same as the front-
bench nerd-boy sense.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:46:55 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03957
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 12:46:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000DE6@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:17:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14177813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 20:17:23 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g710HNq11012 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:17:23 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020801001717.KLCE24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 00:17:17 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGGENDGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:20:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020730181957.00a69a00@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> Good for you!  Some days I just don't feel like getting going
> that early so I tried the lunch time thing, too.

I really like walking in the park early in the morning. The last few years
when I lived a block away from Forest Park, I tried to walk there every
other day.

Lunchtime is bleh. My secretary goes with me so it's okay, but sometimes the
heat and humidity are too much. I've gotten to the point, though, where I
miss it if I don't do it.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com
listening to Gandalf Murphy and The Slambovian Circus of Dreams
(http://www.slambovia.com)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:15:13 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04002
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:15:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000E53@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:45:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14179375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 20:45:40 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g710jeq14430 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:45:40 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws222-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.222]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g710jc702170
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:45:38 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGEENBGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D48847B.C2098ABD@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:44:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Adam Hartfield wrote:

> Oh. It's not dark here at 6:15 now.

Here either.  When Karen said that, I was at first surprised, but then I
realized that she lives near the other end of the time zone from me.  It
makes sense that our daylight wouldn't be the same.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:16:28 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04006
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:16:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000E57@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:46:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14179429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 20:46:53 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g710krq14527 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:46:53 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws222-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.222]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g710ko702522
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:46:51 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207311941020.2568-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4884F9.FF121FDE@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:46:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> >Doesn't this have bad effects on your <primary> job?  Like is it
> >considered ok there to decide that your lawyer stuff is more important
> >than your full-time job?
>
> I don't quite understnad your question. I don't really do "lawyer
> stuff" - I do linguistic analysis in legal contexts. As you know, my
> fulltime job requires a lot of research, and my language and law research
> takes priority over my variation research. Both are important to me, but
> one is far more important than the other, particularly in a context where
> there is a chance to modify a gross injustice in the law by applying
> linguistic analysis.

Oh.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:16:57 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04010
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:16:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000E61@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:47:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14179549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 20:47:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g710lPq14790 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:47:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 51D558F94; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 17:47:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801004724.51D558F94@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:47:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What a Mad Wasp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D486FAB.99BDF620@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 31,
              2002  6:15:55 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:
> > Lucky you did not go into shock.
>
> I'd forgotten how much wasp stings hurt, but why would I go into shock?

Anaphylactic shock. If you're very allergic to wasps, you can die.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:17:32 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04014
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:17:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000E63@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:47:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14179579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 20:47:59 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g710lxq14853 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:47:59 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws222-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.222]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g710lv702803
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:47:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207311946060.2568-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D48853B.DDF84044@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:47:55 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> Hobby?!? WTF are you talking about?

I had thought that you were talking about doing something in Georgia as
a lawyer.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:19:12 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04018
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:19:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000E65@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:49:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14179605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 20:49:39 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g710ndq14970 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:49:39 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws222-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.222]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g710na703180
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:49:36 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207311947220.2568-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D48859E.BE0BF271@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:49:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> I am awaiting a response from Esa about that. You are definitly off the
> hook - I remembered that you are leaving on Thurs.

I'm not leaving on Thursday -- as in really leaving.  I'll be there for
the whole week, ending with the trip to the Russian island on Saturday.
I'll return to Helsinki on Sunday and fly home Tuesday (since Tuesday
was cheaper than Monday).

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:19:58 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04022
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:19:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000E68@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:50:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14179640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 20:50:25 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g710oPq15045 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:50:25 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws222-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.222]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g710oN703403
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:50:23 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D486F2E.6B3A96FF@maynor.net>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAOECDFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
            <3D486F2E.6B3A96FF@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020731195149.00a0c580@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4885CD.85A09497@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:50:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> >= What does this mean?  Why would you untuck the sheets?
> >
> >Because I hate having the sheets tucked in!
> >steph
>
> Me too.  I need my toes to be able to escape the bottom of the bed.

I'm finding this fascinating.  I love for my toes to be tucked in.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:21:08 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04026
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:21:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000E68@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:51:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14179652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 20:51:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g710pZq15099 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:51:35 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DE12B8411; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 17:51:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801005116.DE12B8411@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:51:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGEENBGBAA.adamh1@attbi.com> from Adam
              Hartfield at "Jul 31, 2002  7:45:35 pm"

Adam Hartfield said:
> > Because it's dark. The only time I used to run in the dark was so I
> > could get the sunrise over Diamondhead.
> >
> > Karen
>
> Oh. It's not dark here at 6:15 now. It was in February, but that was only
> for a few weeks. *shrug*

Sunrise here was 6:49 this AM.

> There's definitely a lot more automotive traffic now during the summer at
> 6:15 a.m. than there was during the winter and the spring. It's almost
> annoying.

A well-documented phenomenon.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:23:58 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04030
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:23:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000E71@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:54:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14179748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 20:54:25 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g710sOq15316 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:54:25 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws222-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.222]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g710sM704468
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:54:23 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801004724.51D558F94@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4886BD.181AA58B@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:54:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What a Mad Wasp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Anaphylactic shock. If you're very allergic to wasps, you can die.

Oh.  I guess I'm not allergic to wasps.  But then I guess I already knew
that since this one wasn't my first-ever wasp sting.  What would've
happened if I'd gone into shock?  Would I have died?  Would anybody have
thought to fax my paper to Finland?

I do wish that bite from the burrowing between-boobs bug would someday
go away.  It really has been driving me crazy for several months now.  I
keep wondering if part of the bug is trapped inside me.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:27:50 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04037
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:27:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000E7C@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:58:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14179862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 20:58:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g710wHq15629 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:58:17 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9040E86C2; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 17:58:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801005816.9040E86C2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:58:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: tearing my hair
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D487988.564BC988@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 31,
              2002  7:58: 0 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> There is this bookseller--sells to home schoolers all that religious
> stuff--who always is asking questions about everything. We keep telling
> her to Google, and today she finally said:
>
> "It's odd, I never think of the internet to answer questions...just to
> sell books. Anything else makes me twitchy."
> --
> I hardly can stand the ignorance.

I think that if she really knew what was available online that she'd
be even MORE twitchy.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:30:46 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04053
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:30:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000E84@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:01:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14179974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:01:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7111Cq15955 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:01:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BE75D82E6; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 18:01:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801010111.BE75D82E6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:01:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4885CD.85A09497@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 31,
              2002  7:50:21 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> bonniev wrote:
> > >= What does this mean?  Why would you untuck the sheets?
> > >
> > >Because I hate having the sheets tucked in!
> > >steph
> >
> > Me too.  I need my toes to be able to escape the bottom of the bed.
>
> I'm finding this fascinating.  I love for my toes to be tucked in.

Blech. Toes must be free,  free to fly!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:31:18 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04057
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:31:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000E85@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:01:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14179981 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:01:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7111jq15977 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:01:45 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 93D128329; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 18:01:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801010144.93D128329@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:01:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What a Mad Wasp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4886BD.181AA58B@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 31,
              2002  7:54:21 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> I do wish that bite from the burrowing between-boobs bug would someday
> go away.  It really has been driving me crazy for several months now.  I
> keep wondering if part of the bug is trapped inside me.

Ask a doctor.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:34:08 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04061
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:34:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000E8C@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:04:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:04:33 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g7114Xq16262 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          21:04:33 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g7114W2310960 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul
          2002 21:04:33 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEDIFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:02:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801010111.BE75D82E6@yellow.rahul.net>

> Natalie Maynor said:
> > bonniev wrote:
> > > >= What does this mean?  Why would you untuck the sheets?
> > > >
> > > >Because I hate having the sheets tucked in!
> > > >steph
> > >
> > > Me too.  I need my toes to be able to escape the bottom of the bed.
> >
> > I'm finding this fascinating.  I love for my toes to be tucked in.
>
> Blech. Toes must be free,  free to fly!
>
> Karen

I suspect Natalie is a former ballerina. Sustaining a pointy-toe position
for hours is second-nature to her.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:36:23 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04068
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:36:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000E92@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:06:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:06:49 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7116nq16427 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:06:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C8F118F41; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 18:06:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801010648.C8F118F41@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:06:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEDIFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 31, 2002  6: 2:55 pm"

S Hess said:
> > Natalie Maynor said:
> > > bonniev wrote:
> > > > >= What does this mean?  Why would you untuck the sheets?
> > > > >
> > > > >Because I hate having the sheets tucked in!
> > > > >steph
> > > >
> > > > Me too.  I need my toes to be able to escape the bottom of the bed.
> > >
> > > I'm finding this fascinating.  I love for my toes to be tucked in.
> >
> > Blech. Toes must be free,  free to fly!
> >
> > Karen
>
> I suspect Natalie is a former ballerina. Sustaining a pointy-toe position
> for hours is second-nature to her.

I danced on my toes for two years,  but I don't love pointy-toed positions.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:42:08 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04075
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:42:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000E9A@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:12:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:12:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711CYq16785 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:12:35 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 33DB682E6; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 18:12:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801011234.33DB682E6@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:12:34 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D486D09.A1CE304@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 31,
              2002  6: 4:41 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> > It may be possible to get an airline refund -
>
> My ticket is non-refundable, although in cases of things like the death
> of an immediate family member you can change the ticket to another time
> for a smallish fee.  I don't think that would be true in the case of
> choosing to do something else.

You can almost always change a ticket--it's just that for a
nonrefundable ticket, you'll pay a fee. I did this when my mother
died, but her death was irrelevant to the changing of the ticket.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:44:33 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04082
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:44:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000E9C@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:14:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:14:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711Exq16889 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:14:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 937C486C2; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 18:14:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801011458.937C486C2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:14:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4862C8.11B6200C@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Jul 31,
              2002  6:20:56 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/29/afterlife.argument.reut/index.html

No fear, Fernando is pretty much a pacificist. One of his stories was
about him NOT hitting someone. And he's an atheist--he knew Madelyn
Murray O'Hair.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:45:36 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04094
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:45:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000EA0@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:16:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:16:01 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711G1q17015 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:16:01 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws169-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.169]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g711Fw710747
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:15:58 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D488BCC.2504C4EA@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:15:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Canned Laughter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I decided to turn on the electric teevee a little while ago and watch
something like maybe Larry King.  But I decided not to watch LK because
I wasn't in the mood for kidnapped/murdered children, so I flipped
through the guide and paused on "Keeping Up Appearances," something that
I think some of you are fans of and that I've seen once or twice in
Hville years ago when watching tv with my mother, who liked it.  Two
seconds made me turn it off, though.  I really can't abide canned
laughter.  Does it not bother others of you?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:48:19 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04098
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:48:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000EA8@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:18:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:18:42 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711Igq17224 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:18:42 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g711Ie115987 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          20:18:40 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <00b101c238f9$9d8d71e0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:20:25 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Scanner Banter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I bought a new scanner today.  My old one
wasn't in love with my computer anymore.
They fought.

I bought a Hewlitt Packard Scanjet 3570C.
Not only does it have twice the dpi's as my
old scanner, but you can put a negative inside
the lid and print out pictures.  I want to use it
to compile a book/and/or/discs of old family
photos and also new family photos, etc.

Anyhoo.  I go to hook it up and the cord has
an entirely different type of connection than
my old scanner has.  Entirely different.
Can't figure out where or how to hook it up.
Damn.  I'm too tired to wade through the
book and/or call a support number.

Guess I'll just watch a movie and forget
about it for now.

Just finished a fine meal of chicken breast,
roasted garden vegetables (green and red peppers, zucchini, yellow
squash, onions, new potatoes, sprayed with a little olive oil and later
seasoned and sprinkled with herbs and romano cheese), and new baby beets
in orange sauce, and a rather nice wine from Modesto.

                    - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:48:42 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04105
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:48:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000EAA@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:19:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:19:08 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71197q16603 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:09:08 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71197sp023109 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:09:07 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207312108390.14532-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:09:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D48853B.DDF84044@maynor.net>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> Hobby?!? WTF are you talking about?
>
>I had thought that you were talking about doing something in Georgia as
>a lawyer.

Oh. No - I have not been licensed as a lawyer for many, many years.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:49:14 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04109
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:49:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001866CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:19:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:19:41 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711Jfq17333 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:19:41 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws169-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.169]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g711Jb711919
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:19:38 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801010111.BE75D82E6@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D488CA7.2F350E06@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:19:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Blech. Toes must be free,  free to fly!

It is indeed interesting that I hate for toes to be tucked tightly into
shoes but I love having them tucked into bedding.  Actually, I don't
think I've ever slept in a bed where my toes were touching anything.  I
wouldn't like it if they were hitting the end of the tucked-in sheet.
But they never are.  I like the thought of that tucked-in sheet down
there a long way from my toes because it makes me more <private> -- like
some alien creature couldn't suddenly crawl up the end of the bed or
something.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:49:45 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04113
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:49:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000EAC@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:20:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:20:11 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711KBq17376 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:20:11 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g711K9117472 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          20:20:09 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <20020801011458.937C486C2@yellow.rahul.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <00ba01c238f9$d25cbb60$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:21:53 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>
> No fear, Fernando is pretty much a pacificist. One of his stories was
> about him NOT hitting someone. And he's an atheist--he knew Madelyn
> Murray O'Hair.
>
> Karen

Any stories about her he'd care to share?

What did they decide really happened to
her anyway?

              - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:50:43 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04118
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:50:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000EAD@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:21:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:21:04 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711L4q17445 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:21:04 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws169-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.169]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g711Kx712394
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:21:00 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801010144.93D128329@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D488CF9.E580D45D@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:20:57 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What a Mad Wasp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> > I do wish that bite from the burrowing between-boobs bug would someday
> > go away.  It really has been driving me crazy for several months now.  I
> > keep wondering if part of the bug is trapped inside me.
>
> Ask a doctor.

I think my dr-going time is September, so maybe I will.  But he's a GP,
who I bet doesn't know anything about between-boob bugs.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:50:43 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04120
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:50:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000EB0@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:21:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:21:09 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711L9q17468 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:21:09 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g711L7118313 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          20:21:07 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <3D488BCC.2504C4EA@maynor.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <00c101c238f9$f5073e60$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:22:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Canned Laughter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Hville years ago when watching tv with my mother, who liked it.  Two
> seconds made me turn it off, though.  I really can't abide canned
> laughter.  Does it not bother others of you?
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Yes.  That's one thing Gene and I
agree upon.  We don't do canned
laughter.

                - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:51:42 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04125
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:51:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000EB3@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:22:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:22:08 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711C8q16775 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:12:08 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g711C8sp024066 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:12:08 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207312110530.14532-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:12:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D48859E.BE0BF271@maynor.net>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> I am awaiting a response from Esa about that. You are definitly off the
>> hook - I remembered that you are leaving on Thurs.
>
>I'm not leaving on Thursday -- as in really leaving.  I'll be there for
>the whole week, ending with the trip to the Russian island on Saturday.
>I'll return to Helsinki on Sunday and fly home Tuesday (since Tuesday
>was cheaper than Monday).

Oh - for some reason, I thought you said you were skipping out on R.

If you go by my monastery anytime, please tell them hello for me. New
Valamo.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:51:52 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04129
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:51:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000EB4@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:22:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180550 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:22:18 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711MIq17641 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:22:18 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws169-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.169]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g711MD712845
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:22:14 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEDIFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D488D44.50160500@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:22:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:

> I suspect Natalie is a former ballerina. Sustaining a pointy-toe position
> for hours is second-nature to her.

I did take ballet for a short time but never progressed to toe shoes.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:55:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04133
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:55:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00186723@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:25:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:25:50 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711Foq16985 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:15:50 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g711Fnsp025000 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:15:50 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207312113070.14532-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:15:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801011234.33DB682E6@yellow.rahul.net>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>You can almost always change a ticket--it's just that for a
>nonrefundable ticket, you'll pay a fee. I did this when my mother
>died, but her death was irrelevant to the changing of the ticket.

The complication here is that even though I was to fly United+SAS, SAS
"owns" the ticket. So I can change the date and place (for a fee), but I
will have to fly where SAS flies to use the ticket. I don't often have an
occasion to fly to Scandinavia - in fact, this aborted trip would have
been my first time.

There is a possibility that SAS will give a refund. We will try that
first. The principle is that events beyond one's control must have
occurred.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:55:37 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04140
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:55:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000EBE@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:26:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:26:03 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711Q3q17927 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:26:03 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws169-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.169]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g711Q0713962
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:26:01 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801011234.33DB682E6@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D488E27.4CA6385B@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:25:59 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> You can almost always change a ticket--it's just that for a
> nonrefundable ticket, you'll pay a fee. I did this when my mother
> died, but her death was irrelevant to the changing of the ticket.

Airlines are pretty accommodating overall, I think -- though I have no
first-hand experience, having never tried to change a ticket.  I did
find out that my non-refundable ticket to Japan when I moved there could
have been changed if my work visa didn't come on time.  They said that
that would be considered something beyond my control.  That seems to be
the main thing -- whether it really is beyond your control.  I'd say
that Bethany's case is not within that -- that it's a changing of her
mind, not a beyond-her-control situation.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:56:24 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04144
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:56:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000EC4@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:26:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180761 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:26:51 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711Qoq18175 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:26:50 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0500BC65CQMR@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:26:50 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D488BCC.2504C4EA@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D488DF7.3000106@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:25:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Canned Laughter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> I decided to turn on the electric teevee a little while ago and watch
> something like maybe Larry King.  But I decided not to watch LK because
> I wasn't in the mood for kidnapped/murdered children, so I flipped
> through the guide and paused on "Keeping Up Appearances," something that
> I think some of you are fans of and that I've seen once or twice in
> Hville years ago when watching tv with my mother, who liked it.  Two
> seconds made me turn it off, though.  I really can't abide canned
> laughter.  Does it not bother others of you?
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:56:54 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04148
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:56:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000EC4@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:27:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:27:21 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711RLq18259 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:27:21 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws169-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.169]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g711RI714214
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:27:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801011458.937C486C2@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D488E74.534FD2D9@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:27:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

>  And he's an atheist--he knew Madelyn
> Murray O'Hair.

Does he know where she is?
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:57:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04152
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:57:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00186744@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:27:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:27:53 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711Hrq17154 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:17:53 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g711Hpsp025593 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:17:52 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207312116090.14532-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:17:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801011458.937C486C2@yellow.rahul.net>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>about him NOT hitting someone. And he's an atheist--he knew Madelyn
>Murray O'Hair.

Am I the only one who perceives the final clause to be a non sequitur? I
think that few things would make one less likely to be an atheist than
having known Ms. O'Hair.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:58:18 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04156
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:58:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000EC6@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:28:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:28:45 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711Ijq17238 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:18:45 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g711Ihsp025826 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:18:44 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207312118280.14532-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:18:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Canned Laughter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D488BCC.2504C4EA@maynor.net>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>seconds made me turn it off, though.  I really can't abide canned
>laughter.  Does it not bother others of you?

Depends.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:58:21 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04160
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 13:58:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000EC7@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:28:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:28:48 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711Slq18364 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:28:47 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H05007FG5FZW4@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:28:47 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D480349.22075.19DF033@localhost>
Message-ID:  <3D488E6C.30400@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:27:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

> one of my favorites!
> except I add thin slices of tomato and a little good mustard


Ana claims that mustard bites her mouth.

One of the local BBQ joints has a mustard-bbq sauce that is
quite good.  I'm sorry I didn't discover it while Karo was
here (we usually frequent the competition) since mustard and
bbq sauce were two of her favorite things.  I bought a
bottle to send her.


>
>>        Today at lunch, I took four slices of Italian bread and
>>spread them thinly with unsalted butter, made two cheese
>>sandwiches with Borden American singles, and grilled them
>>until the bread was a lovely shade of brown and crispy, and
>>the cheese was hot and oozey.  Ana and I complemented our
>>sandwiches with tall glasses of ice water.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>>rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
>>http://www.etext.org/~rita
>>
>>
>>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:00:14 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04171
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:00:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000ECE@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:30:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:30:40 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711Ueq18643 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:30:40 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0500F405J39X@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:30:40 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F1710Ja8v9lZfkI1ylz00017e45@hotmail.com>
            <20020730095314.D26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730082510.B45397@pobox.com>
            <20020730155824.A26999@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730100337.A72000@pobox.com>
            <20020731204859.C3147@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020731140620.B13394@pobox.com> <3D483A98.4090209@swbell.net>
            <3D48717E.7A390FFE@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D488EDC.10706@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:29:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>        Today at lunch, I took four slices of Italian bread and
>>spread them thinly with unsalted butter, made two cheese
>>sandwiches with Borden American singles, and grilled them
>>until the bread was a lovely shade of brown and crispy, and
>>the cheese was hot and oozey.  Ana and I complemented our
>>sandwiches with tall glasses of ice water.
>>
>
> Although I can't imagine adding butter to a cheese sandwich, nor can I
> imagine choosing Borden American singles,


I'm not sure you can grill without butter or something
similar... I don't think the bread would brown.

Borden American were on sale this week... soy cheese not
only tastes terrible, but they charge you twice as much for
the experience.  Please try to remember that I'm a welfare
mother of six.

the general idea of your lunch
> sounds ok to me.  (I would've used soy slices and lettuce and no
> grilling.)  But mainly I want to know whether Lisa has arrived.
>


She is probably on the ground, but I haven't met her yet.  I
had to go to class tonight due to Big Final Group Project,
so I'm waiting at home this year.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:00:27 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04175
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:00:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000ECF@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:30:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:30:54 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711Usq18677 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:30:54 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws169-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.169]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g711Uo715162
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:30:51 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207312113070.14532-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D488F49.75460915@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:30:49 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote:

> first. The principle is that events beyond one's control must have
> occurred.

Bingo.  That's where I'd say you have a problem.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:00:30 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04179
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:00:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000ED0@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:30:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:30:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711Uuq18682 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:30:56 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 536FD7E2D; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 18:30:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801013052.536FD7E2D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:30:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scanner Banter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <00b101c238f9$9d8d71e0$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 31, 2002  8:20:25 pm"

Doris Markland said:
> Anyhoo.  I go to hook it up and the cord has
> an entirely different type of connection than
> my old scanner has.  Entirely different.
> Can't figure out where or how to hook it up.
> Damn.  I'm too tired to wade through the
> book and/or call a support number.

USB? You have to have a USB port on the back of your computer. Mine is
below the mouse port.

> Just finished a fine meal of chicken breast,
> roasted garden vegetables (green and red peppers, zucchini, yellow
> squash, onions, new potatoes, sprayed with a little olive oil and later
> seasoned and sprinkled with herbs and romano cheese), and new baby beets
> in orange sauce, and a rather nice wine from Modesto.

Yum!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:00:59 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04183
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:00:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000ED0@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:31:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:31:24 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711VOq18739 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:31:24 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws169-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.169]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g711VL715313
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:31:21 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D488BCC.2504C4EA@maynor.net> <3D488DF7.3000106@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D488F67.F7DA42C0@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:31:19 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Canned Laughter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> > I decided to turn on the electric teevee a little while ago and watch
> > something like maybe Larry King.  But I decided not to watch LK because
> > I wasn't in the mood for kidnapped/murdered children, so I flipped
> > through the guide and paused on "Keeping Up Appearances," something that
> > I think some of you are fans of and that I've seen once or twice in
> > Hville years ago when watching tv with my mother, who liked it.  Two
> > seconds made me turn it off, though.  I really can't abide canned
> > laughter.  Does it not bother others of you?
> >
> > --
> >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
> >
> >
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita

Did you say something?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:01:54 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04187
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:01:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00186786@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:32:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:32:18 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711WIq18843 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:32:18 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0500MAQ5LT6M@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:32:18 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D488BCC.2504C4EA@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D488F3E.102@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:30:38 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Canned Laughter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> I decided to turn on the electric teevee a little while ago and watch
> something like maybe Larry King.  But I decided not to watch LK because
> I wasn't in the mood for kidnapped/murdered children, so I flipped
> through the guide and paused on "Keeping Up Appearances," something that
> I think some of you are fans of and that I've seen once or twice in
> Hville years ago when watching tv with my mother, who liked it.  Two
> seconds made me turn it off, though.  I really can't abide canned
> laughter.  Does it not bother others of you?
>


        Yes, it bothers me a lot.

        "Keeping up Appearances" was funny maybe two or three times,
but the show is so strictly formulaic that I can't stand it
anymore.  I guess I'm easily bored.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:02:07 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04191
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:02:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000ED3@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:32:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:32:33 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711WXq18865 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:32:33 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CABCE7D22; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 18:32:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801013232.CABCE7D22@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:32:32 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <00ba01c238f9$d25cbb60$360332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland
              at "Jul 31, 2002  8:21:53 pm"

Doris Markland said:
> > No fear, Fernando is pretty much a pacificist.

Aiiiieee! No, really, he is a pacifist.

> Any stories about her he'd care to share?

She was a bitch, which is what everyone I know who knew her said.

> What did they decide really happened to
> her anyway?

Killed for money.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:03:12 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04195
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:03:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000ED7@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:33:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:33:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711Xcq19024 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:33:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 72DA28036; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 18:33:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801013337.72DA28036@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:33:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: What a Mad Wasp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D488CF9.E580D45D@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 31,
              2002  8:20:57 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > I do wish that bite from the burrowing between-boobs bug would someday
> > > go away.  It really has been driving me crazy for several months now.  I
> > > keep wondering if part of the bug is trapped inside me.
> >
> > Ask a doctor.
>
> I think my dr-going time is September, so maybe I will.  But he's a GP,
> who I bet doesn't know anything about between-boob bugs.

He should know enough to refer you to a between-boob bug specialist if
it's serious enough.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:03:27 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04199
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:03:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000ED8@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:33:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:33:53 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711Xrq19032 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:33:53 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0500MLM5OH6L@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:33:53 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D488BCC.2504C4EA@maynor.net> <3D488DF7.3000106@swbell.net>
            <3D488F67.F7DA42C0@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D488F9E.7070402@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:32:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Canned Laughter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>>Natalie Maynor wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I decided to turn on the electric teevee a little while ago and watch
>>>something like maybe Larry King.  But I decided not to watch LK because
>>>I wasn't in the mood for kidnapped/murdered children, so I flipped
>>>through the guide and paused on "Keeping Up Appearances," something that
>>>I think some of you are fans of and that I've seen once or twice in
>>>Hville years ago when watching tv with my mother, who liked it.  Two
>>>seconds made me turn it off, though.  I really can't abide canned
>>>laughter.  Does it not bother others of you?
>>>
>>>--
>>> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>>rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
>>http://www.etext.org/~rita
>>
>
> Did you say something?
>


Obviously not!  But I'm happy that my comment is so eagerly
anticipated.


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:04:53 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04203
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:04:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000EDA@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:35:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:35:20 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711ZKq19126 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:35:20 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0500M585QV7Z@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:35:19 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020801013337.72DA28036@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D488FF4.5050701@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:33:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: What a Mad Wasp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Natalie Maynor said:
>
>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>
>>>>I do wish that bite from the burrowing between-boobs bug would someday
>>>>go away.  It really has been driving me crazy for several months now.  I
>>>>keep wondering if part of the bug is trapped inside me.
>>>>
>>>Ask a doctor.
>>>
>>I think my dr-going time is September, so maybe I will.  But he's a GP,
>>who I bet doesn't know anything about between-boob bugs.
>>
>
> He should know enough to refer you to a between-boob bug specialist if
> it's serious enough.
>



        If I ever become an M.D., I want to be an intertitiary insect
bite specialist.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:05:08 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04207
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:05:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000EDB@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:35:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:35:35 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711ZYq19140 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:35:34 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws169-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.169]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g711ZW716440
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:35:32 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F1710Ja8v9lZfkI1ylz00017e45@hotmail.com>
            <20020730095314.D26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730082510.B45397@pobox.com>
            <20020730155824.A26999@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730100337.A72000@pobox.com>
            <20020731204859.C3147@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020731140620.B13394@pobox.com> <3D483A98.4090209@swbell.net>
            <3D48717E.7A390FFE@maynor.net> <3D488EDC.10706@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D489062.8A26957D@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:35:30 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> Borden American were on sale this week... soy cheese not
> only tastes terrible, but they charge you twice as much for
> the experience.  Please try to remember that I'm a welfare
> mother of six.

I don't find soy cheese at all distasteful.  And I don't find its cost a
problem because I spend little on groceries overall.  Although I've
never compared, I'd guess that soy cheese costs no more than chunks of
dead animals.

> She is probably on the ground, but I haven't met her yet.  I
> had to go to class tonight due to Big Final Group Project,
> so I'm waiting at home this year.

So the RNH went to meet her?  Aren't you dying of anticipation waiting
at home?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:06:25 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04215
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:06:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000EDE@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:36:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:36:51 -0400
Received: from vmmr2.verisignmail.com (vmmr2.verisignmail.com
          [216.168.230.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g711aoq19240 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          21:36:51 -0400
Received: from vmms2.verisignmail.com (vmms2.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.140])
          by vmmr2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2)
          with ESMTP id LDG00554; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:36:50 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by
          vmms2.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with
          ESMTP id LNG00536; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:36:49 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D4803AE.12336.1748586@localhost>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:35:10 -1000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET>
Organization: Noxious Weeds
Subject:      Re: What a Mad Wasp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D488CF9.E580D45D@maynor.net>

On 31 Jul 2002 at 20:20, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> I think my dr-going time is September, so maybe I will.  But he's a GP,
> who I bet doesn't know anything about between-boob bugs.

In that case, he will surely arrange a consultation with a BB specialist.

     mem

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:06:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04219
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:06:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001867C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:37:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:37:16 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711bGq19311 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:37:16 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws169-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.169]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g711bD716843
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:37:14 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D488BCC.2504C4EA@maynor.net> <3D488DF7.3000106@swbell.net>
            <3D488F67.F7DA42C0@maynor.net> <3D488F9E.7070402@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4890C8.C3ADB04E@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:37:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Canned Laughter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> > Did you say something?
>
> Obviously not!  But I'm happy that my comment is so eagerly
> anticipated.

Indeed.  It's not every Wordsler that I would have bothered to make that
inquiry of.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:08:20 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04223
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:08:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000EE1@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:38:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14180812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:38:47 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711Slq18359 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:28:47 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g711Sksp028868 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:28:46 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207312128190.14532-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:28:46 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D488E27.4CA6385B@maynor.net>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>have been changed if my work visa didn't come on time.  They said that
>that would be considered something beyond my control.  That seems to be
>the main thing -- whether it really is beyond your control.  I'd say
>that Bethany's case is not within that -- that it's a changing of her
>mind, not a beyond-her-control situation.

That makes me feel very powerful!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:10:14 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04227
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:10:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000EE2@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:40:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:40:40 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711eeq19519 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:40:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9C1357E9B; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 18:40:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801014039.9C1357E9B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:40:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D488E74.534FD2D9@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 31,
              2002  8:27:16 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> >  And he's an atheist--he knew Madelyn
> > Murray O'Hair.
>
> Does he know where she is?

Er, buried somewhere. I forget what they did with the bodies after
they dug them up. See http://www.who2.com/madalynmurrayohair.html for
details.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:11:03 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04231
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:11:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000EE4@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:41:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:41:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711fSq19586 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:41:28 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 404017EE3; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 18:41:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801014127.404017EE3@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:41:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207312116090.14532-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 31, 2002  9:17:51 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >about him NOT hitting someone. And he's an atheist--he knew Madelyn
> >Murray O'Hair.
>
> Am I the only one who perceives the final clause to be a non sequitur? I
> think that few things would make one less likely to be an atheist than
> having known Ms. O'Hair.

Well, true. But he made a point of meeting her because he was an
atheist.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:12:14 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04235
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:12:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000EE6@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:42:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:42:40 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711geq19664 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:42:40 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0500CKP633ID@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:42:39 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F1710Ja8v9lZfkI1ylz00017e45@hotmail.com>
            <20020730095314.D26119@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730082510.B45397@pobox.com>
            <20020730155824.A26999@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020730100337.A72000@pobox.com>
            <20020731204859.C3147@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020731140620.B13394@pobox.com> <3D483A98.4090209@swbell.net>
            <3D48717E.7A390FFE@maynor.net> <3D488EDC.10706@swbell.net>
            <3D489062.8A26957D@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D4891AC.2050304@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:41:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>Borden American were on sale this week... soy cheese not
>>only tastes terrible, but they charge you twice as much for
>>the experience.  Please try to remember that I'm a welfare
>>mother of six.
>>
>
> I don't find soy cheese at all distasteful.  And I don't find its cost a
> problem because I spend little on groceries overall.  Although I've
> never compared, I'd guess that soy cheese costs no more than chunks of
> dead animals.


I think it is usually around $3.99/lb., which is more
expensive than chicken, ground chuck, and all but the
fanciest pork chops.  Sirloin usually costs about $4.99/lb.


>
>>She is probably on the ground, but I haven't met her yet.  I
>>had to go to class tonight due to Big Final Group Project,
>>so I'm waiting at home this year.
>>
>
> So the RNH went to meet her?  Aren't you dying of anticipation waiting
> at home?


And Ana.  She made a very nice welcome sign.  Yes, I am
dying of anticipation.

We plan to feed her some pizza and put her to bed as soon as
she unwinds since I don't think she's slept in quite some
time (it was already late in Germany when she called me on
the phone).


BTW, she said on the phone that she will read Ana her bedtime

stories at night and Ana will go right to sleep.  Tee hee.
I can't wait.  Ana has been awake in her room until 11pm and
later all summer (she a night person like her mommy).



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:13:23 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04239
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:13:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000EE8@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:43:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:43:49 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711hnq19729 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:43:49 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020801014340.PFFN22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 01:43:40 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731183219.0249d750@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:39:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scanner Banter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <00b101c238f9$9d8d71e0$360332d1@0018079268>

Doris Markland writes,

>Anyhoo.  I go to hook it up and the cord has
>an entirely different type of connection than
>my old scanner has.  Entirely different.

USB.  It's a newer-computer thing.

Check the front of the computer, too -- sometimes behind a little door of
some kind.  If your computer has a USB port but you've already got
something plugged into it, you can get a USB hub which makes more ports for
you. If you don't have any already, you'll need a USB PCI card to stick
inside your computer, $15-$50.  And Windows 98SE or up.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:13:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04243
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:13:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00186815@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:43:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:43:53 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711hqq19737 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:43:52 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws169-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.169]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g711hn718344
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:43:50 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801013337.72DA28036@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D489254.228E234@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:43:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What a Mad Wasp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> He should know enough to refer you to a between-boob bug specialist if
> it's serious enough.

If there were any between-boob-bug specialists around, I'd go there
myself.  My GP (the euphemism these days is something like Family
Medicine) is one who would probably get interested in the between-boob
bug himself and do who knows what.  We'll see.  He's a nice person,
though.  His father used to be my doctor but is almost totally retired
now and is thus just my xmas-party guest (because I used to play tennis
with his wife, not because he was my doctor).  He was the one who was so
obnoxiously insistent re HRT and whom I told that if it really did
prevent heart attacks shouldn't he be taking it.  His son is less
fanatical about it.  And I must admit that, even though I'd never say it
to either of them, I've smiled lately with the I-told-you-so feeling.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:17:04 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04252
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:17:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000EF0@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:47:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:47:30 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711lTq19982 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:47:29 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0500COL6B5IB@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:47:29 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
Message-ID:  <3D4892CE.7030200@swbell.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:45:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      She's Here!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

She's here!

Good night :)

--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:17:12 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04256
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:17:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000EF1@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:47:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:47:38 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711lcq19996 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:47:38 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws169-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.169]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g711lZ719153
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:47:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801014039.9C1357E9B@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D489335.77B32754@maynor.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:47:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> > Does he know where she is?
>
> Er, buried somewhere. I forget what they did with the bodies after
> they dug them up.

That's right.  They did find her, didn't they?  I always get her
confused with Jimmy Hoffa.

>See http://www.who2.com/madalynmurrayohair.html for
> details.

I don't really care about the details.  I just thought that maybe *er*
was an insider re her vanishment.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:18:02 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04260
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:18:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000EF2@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:48:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:48:28 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711mRq20047 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:48:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0B8F582F1; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 18:48:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801014827.0B8F582F1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:48:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D489335.77B32754@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Jul 31,
              2002  8:47:33 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> I don't really care about the details.  I just thought that maybe *er*
> was an insider re her vanishment.

No.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:23:32 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04290
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:23:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000EFF@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:53:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:53:56 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g711ruq20346 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          21:53:56 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g711rt2343520 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul
          2002 21:53:55 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEDOFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:52:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Canned Laughter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D488BCC.2504C4EA@maynor.net>

> I decided to turn on the electric teevee a little while ago and watch
> something like maybe Larry King.  But I decided not to watch LK because
> I wasn't in the mood for kidnapped/murdered children, so I flipped
> through the guide and paused on "Keeping Up Appearances," something that
> I think some of you are fans of and that I've seen once or twice in
> Hville years ago when watching tv with my mother, who liked it.  Two
> seconds made me turn it off, though.  I really can't abide canned
> laughter.  Does it not bother others of you?
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Agreed. Canned laughter is plain phoney and manipulative.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:25:13 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04297
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:25:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001868C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:55:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:55:36 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711jaq19868 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:45:36 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g711jZsp001355 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:45:35 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207312145150.14532-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:45:35 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801014127.404017EE3@yellow.rahul.net>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

>> Am I the only one who perceives the final clause to be a non sequitur? I
>> think that few things would make one less likely to be an atheist than
>> having known Ms. O'Hair.
>
>Well, true. But he made a point of meeting her because he was an
>atheist.

That makes sense.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:25:57 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04301
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:25:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000F0B@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:56:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:56:23 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711uMq20622 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:56:23 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1857F8331; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 18:56:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801015622.1857F8331@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:56:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207312145150.14532-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu> from
              "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Jul 31, 2002  9:45:35 pm"

Bethany K. Dumas said:
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> >> Am I the only one who perceives the final clause to be a non sequitur? I
> >> think that few things would make one less likely to be an atheist than
> >> having known Ms. O'Hair.
> >
> >Well, true. But he made a point of meeting her because he was an
> >atheist.
>
> That makes sense.

One of Fernando's virtues is that he makes sense most of the time.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:29:08 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04305
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:29:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000F16@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:59:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 21:59:33 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g711xXq20834 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:59:33 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g711xV122841 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          20:59:31 -0500 (CDT)
References: <20020801010144.93D128329@yellow.rahul.net> 
            <3D488CF9.E580D45D@maynor.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000e01c238ff$524402c0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:01:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: What a Mad Wasp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Karen Kay wrote:
> > > I do wish that bite from the burrowing between-boobs bug would
someday
> > > go away.  It really has been driving me crazy for several months
now.  I
> > > keep wondering if part of the bug is trapped inside me.
> >
> > Ask a doctor.
>
> I think my dr-going time is September, so maybe I will.  But he's a
GP,
> who I bet doesn't know anything about between-boob bugs.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

You must see a cleavage specialist at once.

                 - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:32:08 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04318
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:32:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000F26@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:02:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14181924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:02:33 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7122Xq21128 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:02:33 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA09242
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          19:02:31 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 952A097006 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:02:29 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 9231 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 02:02:28 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 02:02:28 -0000
References: <3D488BCC.2504C4EA@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130304b96e466bf8ef@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:02:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Canned Laughter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEDOFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

>Agreed. Canned laughter is plain phoney and manipulative.
>
>Sandra

And how, exactly, is that antithetical to the spirit of just about any
sitcom one could mention?

Ken Miller
Callum School of Videoturgy

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:34:09 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04325
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:34:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000F39@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:04:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14182112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:04:33 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7124Xq21358 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:04:33 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust40.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.42]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005657508@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:04:28 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801011458.937C486C2@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D48979F.12D890AE@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:06:23 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
And he's an atheist--he knew Madelyn
> Murray O'Hair.
>
As did I. I typeset a book for her.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:35:32 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04329
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:35:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000F3D@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:05:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14182156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:05:58 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7125vq21463 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:05:57 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g7125u128230 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          21:05:56 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731183219.0249d750@mail.istori.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <004901c23900$3765d900$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:07:40 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scanner Banter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Thanks, Karen and Pete.

I'll check into all this later when I'm
not so tired.  My computer is quite
current.  I shouldn't have a problem.
But I'm too tired to check.

Will write later if I have questions.

Love this list of smart people.

            - D. M.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Kaminski" <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
To: <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Scanner Banter


> Doris Markland writes,
>
> >Anyhoo.  I go to hook it up and the cord has
> >an entirely different type of connection than
> >my old scanner has.  Entirely different.
>
> USB.  It's a newer-computer thing.
>
> Check the front of the computer, too -- sometimes behind a little door
of
> some kind.  If your computer has a USB port but you've already got
> something plugged into it, you can get a USB hub which makes more
ports for
> you. If you don't have any already, you'll need a USB PCI card to
stick
> inside your computer, $15-$50.  And Windows 98SE or up.
>
> Pete
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:37:25 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04333
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:37:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000F42@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:07:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14182218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:07:50 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7127oq21653 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:07:50 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA09932
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          19:07:49 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D0D1297006 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:07:48 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 9927 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 02:07:48 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 02:07:48 -0000
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020731123245.030df578@victoria.nb.no>; from
            Espen.Ore@NB.NO on Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 12:34:34PM +0200 
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731094840.0308ee50@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020731080723.D049C8BD1@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731123245.030df578@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130300b96e3fb464f1@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:07:44 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731131033.A30003@pobox.com>

>> One Asterix story claims that the reason for the fall of the Roman Empire
>> was that Asterix and Obelix had invented a cure for hangovers. When the
>> Romans started to use this medicine it meant that they could drink as much
>> as they wished and still survive next morning. (Asterix as Gladiator, I
>> believe)
>
>Americans have no idea who Asterix is.

Next you'll be saying that Americans have no idea who Tintin is, either.
Or Babar.  Or Bertie Wooster.

Ken Miller
H. H. Munro School of International Literary Studies

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:38:24 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04337
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:38:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000F46@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:08:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14182253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:08:49 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g7128nq21715 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          22:08:49 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g7128m2327264 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul
          2002 22:08:48 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEDPFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:07:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801015622.1857F8331@yellow.rahul.net>

> Bethany K. Dumas said:
> > On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> > >> Am I the only one who perceives the final clause to be a non
> sequitur? I
> > >> think that few things would make one less likely to be an
> atheist than
> > >> having known Ms. O'Hair.
> > >
> > >Well, true. But he made a point of meeting her because he was an
> > >atheist.
> >
> > That makes sense.
>
> One of Fernando's virtues is that he makes sense most of the time.
>
> Karen

I dunno. I'm an atheist. All that says about me is that I don't believe in
god. It doesn't say anything about what I do believe in, philosophically or
otherwise. I don't assume I have a lot in common with other atheists. I
don't go out of my way to meet other atheists.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:39:33 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04341
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:39:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000F48@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:09:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14182270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:09:58 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g7129wq21776 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          22:09:58 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g7129v2351636 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul
          2002 22:09:57 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEEAFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:08:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Canned Laughter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130304b96e466bf8ef@[198.144.202.197]>

> >Agreed. Canned laughter is plain phoney and manipulative.
> >
> >Sandra
>
> And how, exactly, is that antithetical to the spirit of just about any
> sitcom one could mention?
>
> Ken Miller
> Callum School of Videoturgy

Too shay!

Well, it does go above and beyond, yes?

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:40:31 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04345
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:40:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000F49@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:10:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14182281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:10:56 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g712Auq21841 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          22:10:56 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g712At2187058 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul
          2002 22:10:55 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEEAFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:09:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D48979F.12D890AE@valstar.net>

 Karen Kay wrote:
> And he's an atheist--he knew Madelyn
> > Murray O'Hair.
> >
> As did I. I typeset a book for her.
>
> alyce
>

Did you kill her for $$$? Did she try to foist a submarine sandwich on you
and you decided to kill her with it instead?

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:42:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04350
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:42:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001869BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:12:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14182307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:12:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712Chq21954 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:12:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 69A758F6C; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:12:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801021242.69A758F6C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:12:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEDPFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Jul 31, 2002  7: 7:11 pm"

S Hess said:
> > Bethany K. Dumas said:
> > > On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> > > >> Am I the only one who perceives the final clause to be a non
> > sequitur? I
> > > >> think that few things would make one less likely to be an
> > atheist than
> > > >> having known Ms. O'Hair.
> > > >
> > > >Well, true. But he made a point of meeting her because he was an
> > > >atheist.
> > >
> > > That makes sense.
> >
> > One of Fernando's virtues is that he makes sense most of the time.
> >
> > Karen
>
> I dunno. I'm an atheist. All that says about me is that I don't believe in
> god. It doesn't say anything about what I do believe in, philosophically or
> otherwise. I don't assume I have a lot in common with other atheists. I
> don't go out of my way to meet other atheists.

I think that's normal for atheists. He heard her speak or read
something she wrote or something, and he was so impressed by whatever
she said, he looked her up.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:44:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04354
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:44:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001869D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:14:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14182385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:14:41 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712Efq22108 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:14:41 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g712EdJv006601 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:14:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D488BCC.2504C4EA@maynor.net> <3D488DF7.3000106@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020731191448.00aa5440@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:15:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Canned Laughter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D488F67.F7DA42C0@maynor.net>

<insert canned laughter>

At 08:31 PM 7/31/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Rita Chapman wrote:
> >
> > Natalie Maynor wrote:
> >
> > > I decided to turn on the electric teevee a little while ago and watch
> > > something like maybe Larry King.  But I decided not to watch LK because
> > > I wasn't in the mood for kidnapped/murdered children, so I flipped
> > > through the guide and paused on "Keeping Up Appearances," something that
> > > I think some of you are fans of and that I've seen once or twice in
> > > Hville years ago when watching tv with my mother, who liked it.  Two
> > > seconds made me turn it off, though.  I really can't abide canned
> > > laughter.  Does it not bother others of you?
> > >
> > > --
> > >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> > rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> > http://www.etext.org/~rita
>
>Did you say something?
>
>--
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:48:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04364
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:48:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00186A13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:18:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14182557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:18:44 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712Iiq22604 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:18:44 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g712Ig109641 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          21:18:42 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEEAFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <007201c23902$0042f0a0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:20:27 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Karen Kay wrote:
> > And he's an atheist--he knew Madelyn
> > > Murray O'Hair.
> > >
> > As did I. I typeset a book for her.
> >
> > alyce

Alyce.  I must say, you did get around.

                 - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:53:36 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04371
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:53:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000F6A@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:24:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14182688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:24:01 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712O1q22927 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:24:01 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-202.panax.com
          [63.163.41.202]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g712O2n21197 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          22:24:02 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020731131033.A30003@pobox.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731123245.030df578@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731094840.0308ee50@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020731080723.D049C8BD1@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731123245.030df578@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731222321.00a14d30@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:23:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130300b96e3fb464f1@[198.144.202.197]>

>Next you'll be saying that Americans have no idea who Tintin is, either.
>Or Babar.  Or Bertie Wooster.
>
>Ken Miller, H. H. Munro School of International Literary Studies

I know who Bertie Wooster is.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:55:02 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04383
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:55:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000F6D@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:25:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14182410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:25:27 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712FRq22193 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:15:27 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g712FQsp010437 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:15:26 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207312215030.3499-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:15:26 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Canned Laughter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020731191448.00aa5440@uclink.berkeley.edu>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Betty wrote:

><insert canned laughter>

Yes! Thank you!

Bethany, depending

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 14:56:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04387
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 14:56:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00186A74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:26:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14182759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:26:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712Qhq23106 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:26:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8C1F18003; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:25:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801022500.8C1F18003@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:25:00 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731222321.00a14d30@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 31, 2002 10:23:49 pm"

bonniev said:
> >Next you'll be saying that Americans have no idea who Tintin is, either.
> >Or Babar.  Or Bertie Wooster.
> >
> >Ken Miller, H. H. Munro School of International Literary Studies
>
> I know who Bertie Wooster is.

You had a deprived childhood if you don't know who Babar and Tintin are.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:01:00 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04401
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:00:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00186AA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:31:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14182813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:31:25 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712VPq23400 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:31:25 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712VOb11025 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:31:24 -0400
Received: from LAPLAND ([131.128.2.136]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with
          ESMTP id g712TXk00923 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul
          2002 22:29:33 -0400
Originator-Info: login-id=twi5708u; server=postoffice.uri.edu
X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.5, s/n P005-300797-005]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Message-ID:  <1657024544.1028154208@LAPLAND>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:23:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Terry Wild <twild@URI.EDU>
Subject:      Coffee pot question - WAEFATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020731191448.00aa5440@uclink.berkeley.edu>

Since I like things that work and last, I have been using my
Mother-in-law's percolator pot for years.  The basket which holds the
grinds has decided to fall apart.  I'm trying to find a replacement which
might be a futile task. (Insert canned laughter)

It is a Coffeematic made by Universal.  The names Landers, Frary & Clark
appear on it.  I've had no luck with web searches and wonder if anyone has
any pointers.  I actually found the pot and all which I should probably
grab.

If this is a futile rabbit chase, does anyone have any suggestions on
reliable brands?

Terry

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:15:25 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04414
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:15:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000F9A@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:45:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14183279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:45:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712jnq24707 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:45:49 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D8F96805A; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:45:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801024548.D8F96805A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:45:48 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Coffee pot question - WAEFATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <1657024544.1028154208@LAPLAND> from Terry Wild at "Jul 31,
              2002 10:23:28 pm"

Terry Wild said:
> If this is a futile rabbit chase, does anyone have any suggestions on
> reliable brands?

Farberware makes a very nice percolator.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:16:20 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04418
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:16:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000F9F@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:46:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14183339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:46:43 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712khq24780 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:46:43 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-95.panax.com [63.163.41.95])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712kin25152 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:46:44 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020731222321.00a14d30@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731224539.00a1bdb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:46:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801022500.8C1F18003@yellow.rahul.net>

>You had a deprived childhood if you don't know who Babar and Tintin are.
>Karen

Was Babar a pirate or something like that?  Sounds familiar.  The only
Tintin I've ever heard of is Rin Tin Tin.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:16:37 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04422
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:16:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00186B84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:47:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14183347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:47:02 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712l1q24833 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:47:01 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g712l0o20433 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:47:00 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207312145570.20180-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:47:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEDIFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, S Hess wrote:

> I suspect Natalie is a former ballerina. Sustaining a pointy-toe position
> for hours is second-nature to her.

We'll see how she answers.  Maybe she sleeps on her sides; or if she
sleeps on her back, maybe the covers push her toes up, not pointed down.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:19:08 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04435
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:19:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000FA9@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:49:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14183454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:49:33 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g712nWq25035 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:49:33 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA15382
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          19:49:31 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 172C597025 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:47:03 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 14863 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 02:47:02 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 02:47:02 -0000
References: <20020731210627.9FB588164@yellow.rahul.net>; from
            karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:06:27PM -0700 
            <20020731155224.A16233@pobox.com>
            <20020731210627.9FB588164@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130302b96e4176ced5@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:46:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731174737.H45240@pobox.com>

At 3:47 PM -0700 7/31/02, Tushar Samant wrote:
>A whole list of freakin front-bench nerds .. the horror, O the horror

Point of fact: that is exactly why you are on this list in the first place,
is it not?

And deep down, you know you love being a front-bench nerd.  Acknowledge it,
admit it, revel in it.

Ken Miller
Steve Russell School of Geek Studies

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:21:02 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04442
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:21:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00186BCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:51:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14183559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:51:24 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712pNq25202 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:51:24 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g712pMv20531 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:51:22 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207312149060.20180-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:51:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207312116090.14532-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> >about him NOT hitting someone. And he's an atheist--he knew Madelyn
> >Murray O'Hair.
>
> Am I the only one who perceives the final clause to be a non sequitur? I
> think that few things would make one less likely to be an atheist than
> having known Ms. O'Hair.

I don't read an intended cause-result relationship between these clauses.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:21:20 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04446
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:21:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000FB5@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:51:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14183586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:51:44 -0400
Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712piq25230 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:51:44 -0400
Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712phb11985 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:51:43 -0400
Received: from LAPLAND ([131.128.2.136]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with
          ESMTP id g712nXk09209 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul
          2002 22:49:33 -0400
Originator-Info: login-id=twi5708u; server=postoffice.uri.edu
X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.5, s/n P005-300797-005]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Message-ID:  <1658225001.1028155408@LAPLAND>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:43:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Terry Wild <twild@URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731224539.00a1bdb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

I believe Babar was an elephant, at least the Babar I know.

Terry

--On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 10:46 PM -0400 bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
wrote:

> Was Babar a pirate or something like that?  Sounds familiar.  The only
> Tintin I've ever heard of is Rin Tin Tin.
>
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:22:44 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04450
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:22:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000FC2@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:53:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14183708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:53:08 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712r8q25378 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:53:08 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 76FE4814E; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:53:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801025307.76FE4814E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:53:07 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731224539.00a1bdb0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 31, 2002 10:46:30 pm"

bonniev said:
> >You had a deprived childhood if you don't know who Babar and Tintin are.
> >Karen
>
> Was Babar a pirate or something like that?  Sounds familiar.  The only
> Tintin I've ever heard of is Rin Tin Tin.

No, Babar is an ELEPHANT. http://www.nelvana.com/babar/.

Tintin is a reporter. http://www.tintin.be/fr/index.html .

I guess maybe you have to have had a French childhood to know Asteri,
Babar, and Tintin. What about Madeline? http://www.duke.edu/~icheese/madeline.html

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:23:51 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04454
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:23:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000FC8@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:54:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14183780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:54:15 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712sEq25473 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:54:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 42C9D7DD0; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:54:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801025414.42C9D7DD0@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:54:14 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207312145570.20180-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 31, 2002  9:47: 0 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, S Hess wrote:
> > I suspect Natalie is a former ballerina. Sustaining a pointy-toe position
> > for hours is second-nature to her.
>
> We'll see how she answers.  Maybe she sleeps on her sides; or if she
> sleeps on her back, maybe the covers push her toes up, not pointed down.

Am I the only Wordsler who danced on their toes? (Other than Espen.:) )

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:24:41 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04458
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:24:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00000FCF@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:55:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14183853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:55:05 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712t5q25546 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:55:05 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust40.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.42]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004342855@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:55:04 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020731131033.A30003@pobox.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731123245.030df578@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731094840.0308ee50@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020731080723.D049C8BD1@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731123245.030df578@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020731222321.00a14d30@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D48A37B.1AD0DE64@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:56:59 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> >Next you'll be saying that Americans have no idea who Tintin is, either.
> >Or Babar.  Or Bertie Wooster.
> >
> >Ken Miller, H. H. Munro School of International Literary Studies
>
> I know who Bertie Wooster is.

But nnot Babar?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:24:42 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04463
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:24:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000FD0@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:55:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14183859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:55:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712t6q25555 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:55:06 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DB93281D2; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:55:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801025505.DB93281D2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:55:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207312149060.20180-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 31, 2002  9:51:22 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>
> > >about him NOT hitting someone. And he's an atheist--he knew Madelyn
> > >Murray O'Hair.
> >
> > Am I the only one who perceives the final clause to be a non sequitur? I
> > think that few things would make one less likely to be an atheist than
> > having known Ms. O'Hair.
>
> I don't read an intended cause-result relationship between these clauses.

Thank you for understanding me, Borkinando.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:24:43 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04460
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:24:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000FCF@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:55:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14183856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:55:06 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712t6q25550 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:55:06 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g712t4w20722 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:55:04 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207312154000.20180-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:55:04 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D489335.77B32754@maynor.net>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>  I always get her
> confused with Jimmy Hoffa.
>
Oh, me too.  Always have.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:26:12 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04474
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:26:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00000FDC@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:56:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14183985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:56:36 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712uaq25664 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:56:36 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust40.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.42]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004342880@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:56:35 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207312154000.20180-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D48A3D6.8F13973@valstar.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:58:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:
>
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> >  I always get her
> > confused with Jimmy Hoffa.
> >
> Oh, me too.  Always have.

Yes, Hoffa was a noted atheist.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:27:03 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04478
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:27:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00186C3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:57:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14184141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:57:26 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712vQq25838 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:57:26 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-95.panax.com [63.163.41.95])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712vRn26749 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:57:27 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020731224539.00a1bdb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731225610.00a1a770@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:57:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801025307.76FE4814E@yellow.rahul.net>

>I guess maybe you have to have had a French childhood to know Asteri,
>Babar, and Tintin. What about Madeline?
>http://www.duke.edu/~icheese/madeline.html
>Karen

Didn't know Madeline either.   The only French I remember as a child is
that song about Friar Jaques.  You sing it in turn like you would Row, row,
your boat.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:27:44 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04482
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:27:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000FF8@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:58:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14184256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:58:08 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712w8q25924 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:58:08 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g712w6q20789 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:58:06 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207312157160.20180-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:58:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Coffee pot question - WAEFATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801024548.D8F96805A@yellow.rahul.net>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> Farberware makes a very nice percolator.

My mother agrees.  If anybody has a 2-cup Farberware they'd care to sell
me (I don't think they make them anymore) please let me know.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:28:06 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04486
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:28:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00000FFF@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:58:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14184335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:58:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712wUq26025 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:58:30 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 250FA8219; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:58:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801025829.250FA8219@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:58:28 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731225610.00a1a770@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 31, 2002 10:57:14 pm"

bonniev said:
> >I guess maybe you have to have had a French childhood to know Asteri,
> >Babar, and Tintin. What about Madeline?
> >http://www.duke.edu/~icheese/madeline.html
> >Karen
>
> Didn't know Madeline either.   The only French I remember as a child is
> that song about Friar Jaques.  You sing it in turn like you would Row, row,
> your boat.

Well, Madeline is in English everywhere.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:28:55 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04490
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:28:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000100E@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:59:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14184482 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 22:59:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g712xJq26154 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:59:19 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E50057F9F; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 19:59:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801025918.E50057F9F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:59:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Coffee pot question - WAEFATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207312157160.20180-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 31, 2002  9:58: 6 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
> > Farberware makes a very nice percolator.
>
> My mother agrees.  If anybody has a 2-cup Farberware they'd care to sell
> me (I don't think they make them anymore) please let me know.

Huh? http://products.consumerguide.com/cp/family/review/index.cfm/id/19503

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:30:04 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04505
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:30:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00001040@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:00:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14184978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 23:00:23 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7130Nq26572 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:00:23 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-95.panax.com [63.163.41.95])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7130On27183 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:00:25 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020731131033.A30003@pobox.com>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731123245.030df578@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731094840.0308ee50@victoria.nb.no>
            <20020731080723.D049C8BD1@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020731123245.030df578@victoria.nb.no>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020731222321.00a14d30@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731225923.00a14720@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:00:11 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D48A37B.1AD0DE64@valstar.net>

>But not Babar?
>alyce

No.  When I guessed a pirate, I must have been thinking of Ali Babar and
the seven thieves.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:31:41 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04509
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:31:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00001099@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:02:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14185816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 23:02:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71325q27210 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:02:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7913C82D9; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 20:02:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801030204.7913C82D9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:02:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731225923.00a14720@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Jul 31, 2002 11: 0:11 pm"

bonniev said:
> >But not Babar?
> >alyce
>
> No.  When I guessed a pirate, I must have been thinking of Ali Babar and
> the seven thieves.

Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves.

You must have had a cut-rate version.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:32:38 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04513
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:32:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000010D5@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:03:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14186346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 23:03:00 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7132xq27461 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:03:00 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g7132wO20926 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:02:58 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207312202060.20843-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:02:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Coffee pot question - WAEFATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801025918.E50057F9F@yellow.rahul.net>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:

> > My mother agrees.  If anybody has a 2-cup Farberware they'd care to sell
> > me (I don't think they make them anymore) please let me know.
>
> Huh? http://products.consumerguide.com/cp/family/review/index.cfm/id/19503

K*r3N , I LOVE YOU, MAN

thanks
Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:35:48 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04517
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 15:35:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000116C@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:06:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14187695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 23:06:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7136Cq28234 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:06:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 878217F79; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 20:06:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801030611.878217F79@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:06:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Coffee pot question - WAEFATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207312202060.20843-100000@og1.olagrande.net> from
              Ann Borkin at "Jul 31, 2002 10: 2:58 pm"

Ann Borkin said:
> K*r3N , I LOVE YOU, MAN

Ha!!! Take that, OREOTU!

> thanks
> Ann

You're very welcome, Borkinando.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 16:19:56 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04580
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 16:19:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00001209@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:50:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14189206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 23:50:19 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g713oIq30820 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:50:18 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA25596
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          20:50:17 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 61B3A97006 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:50:16 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 25562 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 03:50:14 -0000
Received: from p19.eb0.rahul.net (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (66.237.73.66) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 03:50:14 -0000
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020731224539.00a1bdb0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from    
            bonniev at "Jul 31, 2002 10:46:30 pm"
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130307b96e5e2b8d70@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:50:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801025307.76FE4814E@yellow.rahul.net>

>I guess maybe you have to have had a French childhood to know Asteri,
>Babar, and Tintin. What about Madeline?
>Karen

I'm pretty sure that Asterix and Tintin, despite their gallic origins, are
pan-European.  I don't know about Babar, but I encountered him at about the
same time I encountered Horton (of _Horton Hears a Who_ fame).

Madeline is a minor industry nowadays.  My niece had the book, a couple of
videos, and goodness knows what other fruits of the merchandiser's art.

Ken Miller
Popular Correspondent
The Lostin Times

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 16:28:18 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04588
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 16:28:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001234@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:58:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14189620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 23:58:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g713weq31404 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:58:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7DF8781B2; Wed, 31
          Jul 2002 20:54:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801035433.7DF8781B2@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:54:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130307b96e5e2b8d70@[198.144.202.197]> from Bookrat at "Jul
              31, 2002  8:50: 6 pm"

Bookrat said:
> I'm pretty sure that Asterix and Tintin, despite their gallic origins, are
> pan-European.

Like Pippi. I always thought she was American. (Sorry, Espen.)

> I don't know about Babar, but I encountered him at about the
> same time I encountered Horton (of _Horton Hears a Who_ fame).

Ha! They are filed together in my brain, too.

My former shrink had a Babar in her office. She also had a dog... And
she used to move the animals just to freak me out. (She was
entertaining.)

> Madeline is a minor industry nowadays.  My niece had the book, a couple of
> videos, and goodness knows what other fruits of the merchandiser's art.

Yes. Part of me regrets this, but I also know that I would have killed
for this stuff when I was that age.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 16:41:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04616
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 16:41:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00187250@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 0:11:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14191799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 00:11:30 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g714BTq00927 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 00:11:29 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g714BS123176 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          23:11:28 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001a01c23911$bfff44c0$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:13:11 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Have any of you ever written to the
president of the U. S.?

I have written a letter now and then
through the years, and particlarly since
email made it more convenient.  I wrote
letters to BC.  Nice letters, in fact, with opinions but not with
criticism.  I
always had a response.

Tonight I sat up and wrote a letter to
President Bush.  It may reach him, it may
not.  You never know.  It had to do with
my opinion on agression against Saddam
Hussein.

I'm against it.  For a number of reasons,
which I enumerated concisely and hopefully
convincingly. He probably will never see it
anyway.  But what the hell.  It's better than
talking to the wall.

                        -  D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 16:51:15 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04649
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 16:51:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001872BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 0:21:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14192123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 00:21:37 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g714Lbq01721 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 00:21:37
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g714La253216 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002
          00:21:36 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEEHFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:19:58 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <001a01c23911$bfff44c0$360332d1@0018079268>

there are white house personnel whose job it is to make sure you get a
reply. And they do convey the general concensus to the Office of the
President.

Sandra
>
> Have any of you ever written to the
> president of the U. S.?
>
>                         -  D. M.
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 16:54:48 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04656
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 16:54:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001872EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 0:25:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14192257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 00:25:10 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g714P9q02163 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 00:25:10 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g714P8104012 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002
          23:25:08 -0500 (CDT)
References:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEEHFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000c01c23913$a8cf1260$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:26:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> there are white house personnel whose job it is to make sure you get a
> reply. And they do convey the general concensus to the Office of the
> President.
>
> Sandra

Yes, I've always had replies.
I write to congressmen and senators
occasionally as well.

What else can you do?

        - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 16:58:43 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04663
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 16:58:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00001337@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 0:29:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14192325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 00:29:05 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g714T5q02436 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 00:29:05
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g714T42161014 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002
          00:29:04 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEEIFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:27:26 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000c01c23913$a8cf1260$360332d1@0018079268>

visit your local congressman

Sandra

>
> > there are white house personnel whose job it is to make sure you get a
> > reply. And they do convey the general concensus to the Office of the
> > President.
> >
> > Sandra
>
> Yes, I've always had replies.
> I write to congressmen and senators
> occasionally as well.
>
> What else can you do?
>
>         - D. M.
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 17:35:55 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04708
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 17:35:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000013C4@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 1:06:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14194048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 01:06:17 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe22.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.79]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7156Gq05800 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 01:06:16 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          31 Jul 2002 22:06:11 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.67]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 05:06:11.0334 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[27229A60:01C23919]
Message-ID:  <OE22yz5b6KZmcK8r6be00004993@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 00:07:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>visit your local congressman

>Sandra

Or woman.

Newspapering has it as Delegate to Congress, eh what?

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 17:42:55 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04716
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 17:42:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018759D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 1:13:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14194318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 01:13:13 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe39.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.96]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g715DDq06499 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 01:13:13 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed,
          31 Jul 2002 22:13:07 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.67]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 05:13:07.0731 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[1F53BE30:01C2391A]
Message-ID:  <OE39eD0WeOnFl0YldT600004a3f@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 00:14:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

KM:

>Madeline is a minor industry nowadays.  My niece had the book, a couple of
videos, and goodness knows what other fruits of the merchandiser's art.

Yep. And my step-niece even has her name!

... carefully coordinated with the other fruits ...

(Suppie pseudo-French. A Real French nanny avec.)

<<shudder>>

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 17:52:36 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04733
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 17:52:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000013EA@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 1:22:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14194552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 01:22:57 -0400
Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g715Muq07149 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 01:22:56 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id
          c.5f.2ad87b11 (25915) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002
          01:22:48 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <5f.2ad87b11.2a7a1fa8@aol.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 01:22:48 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Canned Laughter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 07/31/2002 9:02:38 PM Central Daylight Time,
bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM writes:

<<
And how, exactly, is that antithetical to the spirit of just about any
sitcom one could mention?


>>

How about M*A*S*H?

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 17:56:06 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04740
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 17:56:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000013EE@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 1:26:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14194597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 01:26:26 -0400
Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g715QQq07299 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 01:26:26 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id
          c.aa.f576057 (25915) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002
          01:26:25 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  7bit
Message-ID:  <aa.f576057.2a7a2081@aol.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 01:26:25 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

The first summer we had Sweetie I had to wear shoes to bed because
she would attack my feet.  It's hard to believe that that little baby kitten
has grown up to be the big beautiful cat she is today.  She no longer
attacks my feet; she loves to give headbutts and kisses.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 19:55:14 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05200
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 19:55:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00001531@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 3:25:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14198460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 03:25:32 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g717PVq15757 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 03:25:32 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4NQZ>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:25:31 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4NQX; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:25:22 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <20020731045711.7DA858009@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020801092453.032f8ec8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:25:14 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D47F6D6.5020509@swbell.net>

09:40 31.07.2002 -0500 skrev Rita Chapman:

>>I want to be in Corfu.
>
>Me too!

I would be satisfied with Crete.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 19:56:34 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05205
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 19:56:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001531@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 3:26:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14198465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 03:26:52 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g717Qpq15784 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 03:26:51 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4NQ8>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:26:51 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4NQ7; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:26:44 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020731105118.00bbc4d0@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020801092554.00bf6d50@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:26:35 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: They'll be jealous!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020731145326.A7F4B816A@yellow.rahul.net>

07:53 31.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>Espen Ore said:
> > 14:47 30.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> > >Rita Chapman said:
> > > > My newest kid!  Arriving tomorrow!
> > >
> > >Where's she from again?
> > >
> > >Btw, Fernando was an exchange student in high school. In central
> > >Florida somewhere, I forget.
> >
> > *er* - Hermes? (Or Ferdydurke for the literary oriented.)
>
>These are all tempting, but really, he's Fernando.
>
>Who is Ferdyduke?

The main character in the novel by the same name (at least in the Norwegian
translation) by Witold Gombrowitz (sp?)

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 19:58:24 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05209
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 19:58:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001532@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 3:28:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14198478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 03:28:42 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g717Sfq15870 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 03:28:41 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4NRC>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:28:41 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4NRB; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:28:39 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <001e01c238a8$21a02600$360332d1@0018079268>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020801092800.0332d238@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:28:22 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D47D52F.31220.E9D3D2@localhost>

12:16 31.07.2002 -0400 skrev Paul R. Barfoot:
>I have applied for a job in Toronto.  Though I'd rather not be too
>specific at this point, it is enough to say that the job posting
>detailed requirements that could have been written directly from my
>résumé.  Whether it pays enough to make the move possible and
>whether they will consider a non-Canadian no matter how perfectly
>qualified are questions yet to be answered.  Today is the deadline
>for apps., so if they're interested, I should hear at least something
>fairly soon.
>There are lots of risks even if the money is ok and the work permit
>issues work out - but at least it is a step - a learning experience
>about the process if nothing else.

I wish you a lot of luck!

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 20:03:07 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05220
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 20:03:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00187BB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 3:33:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14198531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 03:33:24 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g717XNq16111 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 03:33:24 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g717eGJ04740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:40:16
          +0200
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020731224539.00a1bdb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <20020801025307.76FE4814E@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020801094016.A4702@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:40:16 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801025307.76FE4814E@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 07:53:07PM -0700

=
= Tintin is a reporter. http://www.tintin.be/fr/index.html .
=
= I guess maybe you have to have had a French childhood to know Asteri,
= Babar, and Tintin. What about Madeline? http://www.duke.edu/~icheese/madeline.html
=
= Karen

Tintin they call Kuifje in .nl.  It means  "little haircut", and
some people do have it.  I find it especially fetching on
otherwise Tank Girl type women.

I don't think I had a french childhood.

steph

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 22:03:23 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA05841
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 22:03:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000015B4@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 5:33:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14200340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 05:33:37 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g719Xbq23527 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 05:33:37 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4N77>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:33:36 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4N76; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:33:27 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <20020801011234.33DB682E6@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020801113248.00bf3930@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:33:18 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207312113070.14532-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu >

21:15 31.07.2002 -0400 skrev Bethany K. Dumas:
>On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Karen Kay wrote:
>
> >You can almost always change a ticket--it's just that for a
> >nonrefundable ticket, you'll pay a fee. I did this when my mother
> >died, but her death was irrelevant to the changing of the ticket.
>
>The complication here is that even though I was to fly United+SAS, SAS
>"owns" the ticket. So I can change the date and place (for a fee), but I
>will have to fly where SAS flies to use the ticket. I don't often have an
>occasion to fly to Scandinavia - in fact, this aborted trip would have
>been my first time.

I thought you were going to Finland?

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 23:18:56 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA06246
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 23:18:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001662@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 6:49:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14202043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 06:49:09 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71An8q29477 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 06:49:09 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT43F2>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:49:08 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT43FH; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:48:58 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207312145570.20180-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020801115849.0333fab0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:48:49 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801025414.42C9D7DD0@yellow.rahul.net>

19:54 31.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>Ann Borkin said:
> > On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, S Hess wrote:
> > > I suspect Natalie is a former ballerina. Sustaining a pointy-toe position
> > > for hours is second-nature to her.
> >
> > We'll see how she answers.  Maybe she sleeps on her sides; or if she
> > sleeps on her back, maybe the covers push her toes up, not pointed down.
>
>Am I the only Wordsler who danced on their toes? (Other than Espen.:) )

Male dancers don't dance on their toes. (But they wear tights.)

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 23:21:36 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA06280
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 23:21:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00001665@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 6:51:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14202166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 06:51:49 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71Apmq29863 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 06:51:49 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT43FS>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:51:48 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT43FR; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:51:44 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <v03130307b96e5e2b8d70@[198.144.202.197]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020801125048.0330e670@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:51:35 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801035433.7DF8781B2@yellow.rahul.net>

20:54 31.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
>Bookrat said:
> > I'm pretty sure that Asterix and Tintin, despite their gallic origins, are
> > pan-European.
>
>Like Pippi. I always thought she was American. (Sorry, Espen.)

Tintin is Belgian - is that gallic?

And babar was part of my childhood.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 23:30:25 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA06304
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sat, 25 Jun 1960 23:30:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00188397@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 7:00:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14202153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 07:00:38 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71Aocq29788 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 06:50:38 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71Aobsp026784 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 06:50:37 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0208010649130.5338-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 06:50:37 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020801113248.00bf3930@victoria.nb.no>

On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Espen Ore wrote:

>I thought you were going to Finland?

There are no direct flights Knoxville - Helsinki. The best I could do was
via Copenhagen. And no there are not direct flights Knoxville -
Copenhagen. I was booked via Dulles.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 00:11:57 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA06461
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 00:11:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000016CC@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 7:42:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14203689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 07:42:09 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71Bg8q16296 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:42:08 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g71Bn2c05179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:49:02
          +0200
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020801134901.A5151@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:49:01 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      chickens
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

things to do with a chicken:
http://webhome.idirect.com/~avriljohn/scientist.html

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 00:29:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA06519
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 00:29:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00188643@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 8:00:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14204601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 08:00:00 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71C00q18562 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:00:00 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA17801 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:59:59 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          08:00:00 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 07:59:51 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D47D52F.31220.E9D3D2@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D48EA73.4017.DB3F5@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:59:47 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020801092800.0332d238@victoria.nb.no>

Thank you.

BrP


> I wish you a lot of luck!
>
> Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 00:34:17 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA06536
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 00:34:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000172E@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 8:04:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14204856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 08:04:28 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71C4Rq19127 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:04:28 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19008 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:04:27 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          08:04:27 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 08:04:10 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D48EB74.1698.11A0CE@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:04:04 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D486C1D.1E1E3ED7@maynor.net>

In theory, it is the same. A company wanting to hire a non-resident
must <prove> to HRDC that there is no qualified Canadian for the
position.  If they really want to hire me, however, they will make the
offer so specific that I am the only one who qualifies.

BrP



> I don't know what the situation is now, but in 1970 non-Canadians
> weren't hired unless there was absolutely no Canadian remotely qualified
> for the position.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 00:42:23 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA06571
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 00:42:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001743@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 8:12:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14205219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 08:12:34 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71CCYq20125 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:12:34 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws51-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.51]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g71CCV707401
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:12:31 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207312145570.20180-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4925AD.C635B53F@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:12:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:

> We'll see how she answers.  Maybe she sleeps on her sides; or if she
> sleeps on her back, maybe the covers push her toes up, not pointed down.

Sides.  Never back.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 00:44:42 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA06578
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 00:44:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000174E@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 8:14:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14205386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 08:14:52 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71CEqq20577 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:14:52 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws51-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.51]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g71CEn707952
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:14:50 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801035433.7DF8781B2@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D492638.35E4AE67@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:14:48 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> My former shrink had a Babar in her office. She also had a dog... And

My insurance agent has a huge shelf full of elephants.  I don't know
whether Babar is included.  I try to avert my eyes from the elephants
when I'm there.  I've told him that they're highly tacky.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:24 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12655
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00001B76@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:03:53 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14219990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:03:52 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71F3pC20627 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:03:51 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26707 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:03:50 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          11:03:51 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 11:03:34 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D493E03.DFA3AE7E@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Aug 1,
            2002  9:56:19 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D491580.3869.7F684A@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:03:28 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801145703.C07C3848A@yellow.rahul.net>

Would you care to express them here? I'd be interested -
backchannel or on the list.

BrP


> keep my brother right where he is. I was surprised--I haven't really
> talked to anyone else about this, but I have definite opinions.
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:24 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12656
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00001BEC@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:12:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14221451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:12:54 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com ([63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FCsC23006 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:12:54 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-118.panax.com
          [65.114.190.118]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g71FBZn17574 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:11:35
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020731224539.00a1bdb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020731225610.00a1a770@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020801111040.00a088f0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:11:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D49419F.1DBE33DF@valstar.net>

>bonniev wrote:
> > Friar Jaques.
>
>Frere Jacques
>alyce

I'm surprised it took some one this long to correct me.  I thought Karen
would immediately.  It means Brother John, right?


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:25 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12659
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001BFB@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:14:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14221699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:14:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FEbC23518 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:14:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 242E3868E; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 08:14:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801151436.242E3868E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:14:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020801111040.00a088f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Aug 1, 2002 11:11:25 am"

bonniev said:
> >bonniev wrote:
> > > Friar Jaques.
> >
> >Frere Jacques
> >alyce
>
> I'm surprised it took some one this long to correct me.  I thought Karen
> would immediately.

I thought it was a lost cause.

> It means Brother John, right?

Yes. We had brothers in our church, so that made the song more
comprehensible to me.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:27 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12666
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00001C85@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:33:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14223601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:33:41 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FXeC27918 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:33:40 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6D9328EDB; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 08:33:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801153339.6D9328EDB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:33:39 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D491A49.1916.C89959@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Aug
              1, 2002 11:23:55 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> It's actually Brother James, n'est ce pas?

Huh?

Hm. I just looked this up.

> The English version of
> the song says Brother John and I always wondered why it was
> translated that way.  Is it because the sound of John fits better
> than the sound of James?

I always thought Jacques>Jack>John. Am I pig-ignorant?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:27 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12667
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001C32@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:23:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14222447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:23:27 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FNQC25317 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:23:27 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DE011868E; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 08:23:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801152325.DE011868E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:23:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801151851.NYFH22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69> from
              Lisa Alfieri at "Aug 1, 2002  3:18:49 pm"

Lisa Alfieri said:
> Take for instance lunch. Yesterday I bought sushi and a
> Balance Bar for lunch. This costs $8.55. For $6-7 I could
> have gotten an eggplant sub (large enough for lunch and
> dinner), a small bag of chips and a soda.

Is an eggplant sub inherently unhealthy? Can't you take the eggplant
out of the bread and eat it?

> Eating in can add up as well. Fish, a staple of my
> healthy eating habits, gets expensive. So does buying WOW
> chips for snacks. They're nearly twice the cost of
> regular chips.

But WOW chips are still junkfood in a way that nuts, for example, are
not.

I buy fish on sale and freeze it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:25 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12660
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00001C1E@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:20:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14222184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:20:21 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FKLC24744 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:20:21 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust41.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.43]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004353609@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:20:21 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020731224539.00a1bdb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020731225610.00a1a770@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801111040.00a088f0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49521F.883351CC@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:22:07 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> It means Brother John, right?

Oui. I would have corrected you sooner, but I waited till I'd read all
of the mail to be sure not to be a duplicator.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:28 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12671
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00001CCD@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:43:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14224498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:43:08 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71Fh8C29772 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:43:08 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g71Fo3405808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:50:03
          +0200
References: <F89Zd9fNrUePN6CAiko0001acdc@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020801175003.A5798@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:50:03 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F89Zd9fNrUePN6CAiko0001acdc@hotmail.com>; from
              rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM on Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 03:29:05PM +0000

=
= -rashmi, the anti-Bethany
=       credo: Never make detailed plans until you absolutely have to
=

and then call at 11 something the night before to say that they
were wrong anyway.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:29 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12675
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00001CFF@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:50:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14225187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:50:07 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71Fo7C31210 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:50:07 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15487 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:50:07 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          11:50:07 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 11:49:50 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D491A49.1916.C89959@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Aug    
            1, 2002 11:23:55 am"
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D492058.15138.E044E4@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:49:45 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801153339.6D9328EDB@yellow.rahul.net>

<color><param>0100,0100,0100</param><bigger>Hmm

I checked quickly and found one source that says both Jacques
and James are variants of Jacob - interesting


I also happened on this which, though not directly related, is
interesting.



BrP



<FontFamily><param>Times New Roman</param>Angus Baxter in "In Search of Your British and Irish Roots" describes a
pattern that was popular in England in the 1700-1875 period:

<paraindent><param>out</param>The first son was named after the father's father </paraindent>

<paraindent><param>out</param>The second son was named after the mother's father </paraindent>

<paraindent><param>out</param>The third son was named after the father </paraindent>

<paraindent><param>out</param>The fourth son was named after the father's eldest brother </paraindent>

<paraindent><param>out</param>The first daughter after the mother's mother </paraindent>

<paraindent><param>out</param>The second daughter after the father's mother </paraindent>

<paraindent><param>out</param>The third daughter after the mother </paraindent>

<paraindent><param>out</param>The fourth daughter after the mother's eldest sister </paraindent>





<color><param>7F00,0000,7F00</param><FontFamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>> Paul R. Barfoot said:

> > It's actually Brother James, n'est ce pas?

>

> Huh?

>

> Hm. I just looked this up.

>

> > The English version of

> > the song says Brother John and I always wondered why it was

> > translated that way.  Is it because the sound of John fits better

> > than the sound of James?

>

> I always thought Jacques>Jack>John. Am I pig-ignorant?

>

> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:29 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12682
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00001F5C@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:01:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14232805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 13:01:51 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71H1oC13127 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:01:51 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust41.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.43]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004355724@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 13:01:49 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <001401c23978$808e3fa0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4969E6.150F1E7B@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:03:34 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Alec D. Plotkin" wrote:
>
> I pray he never sends IBM anywhere. I pray an ICBM never goes anywhere
> either.

I was waiting for this. Had it not come, I was about to write a
self-correction. I se, with shame, that there is a mistake in the first
paragraph of my letter, too, where I said "the" "your." Well, he'll have
to work through that.

Yesterday and today on C-SPAN, they have had (still going on) the Senate
hearings on the Iraq problem, with all manner of "experts." One of the
major concerns is who would take over if Saddam were removed. No one has
an answer. There are the Kurds in the north, and the Saddam opposition
outside the country, but can either of those groups set up a new
government? Or would it be up to us to do that ("We are not
nation-builders"--G W Bush)? I have not seen/heard any senator nor any
expert who seems well-disposed toward this endeavor. One senator
(Feingold) just pointed out that they have seen no evidence that Saddam
is supporting Al Queda--only a White House statement to that effect.
Meanwhile, over at the Pentagon, Rumsfeld is telling the generals to go
back to the drawing board because he doesn't like any plan that he's
seen.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:27 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12661
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11183
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001A07@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:22:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14214856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 10:22:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71EMBq09864 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:22:11 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0858E8684; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 07:22:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801142210.0858E8684@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:22:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D492943.1DB096E6@pop.mindspring.com> from Sylvia Edwards at
              "Aug 1, 2002  7:27:47 am"

Sylvia Edwards said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Well, Madeline is in English everywhere.
>
> Rita's Ana reminds me of Madeline....  I have no idea why this is so.

Yes.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:30 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12680
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00001F4F@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:01:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14232653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 13:00:58 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71H0wC12835 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:00:58 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12638 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:00:57 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          13:00:59 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 13:00:57 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D48EA73.4017.DB3F5@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D493103.29725.121652B@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:00:54 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEFFFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

:-)

thanks

BrP



> Me too. I'm thinking pink thoughts for you :)
>
> Sandra
>
> > Thank you.
> >
> > BrP
> >
> >
> > > I wish you a lot of luck!
> > >
> > > Espen
> >


Paul R. Barfoot
Special Collections
Syracuse University Library

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:31 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12686
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00001F79@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:07:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14233230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 13:07:27 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71H7RC13968 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:07:27 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15043 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:07:26 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          13:07:27 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 13:07:19 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D49327E.28118.1272DA7@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:07:13 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: E-mail du jour
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D496A6D.2AB91A6B@valstar.net>

Sounds like a spellcheck oops:
-spell the word wrong
-spellcheck flags it and makes suggestions
-click on the next one down from the one you want

It does make for interesting results - might make a good comedy
piece (though I suspect it's already been done somewhere).

BrP



> I am sorry to say that the book you want has already been sold.  We have
> updated our inventory with ABE, but it takes a little while.  Sorry for
> the incontinence.
> --
> alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:31 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12688
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001FFA@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:29:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14234450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 13:29:09 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f169.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.169]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71HJ9C16459 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:19:09 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          1 Aug 2002 10:19:03 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01
          Aug 2002 17:19:03 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 17:19:03.0919 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[88D697F0:01C2397F]
Message-ID:  <F169ZngMPiJuh9G1CG80001ac45@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:19:03 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> > >Worse, she spent so much time and energy obsessing over every
> >little detail of the trip. What a waste of her time.

>NOT

I call it like I see it.

> >-rashmi, the anti-Bethany

>Bethany, somtimes anti-  and sometimes pro-

anti- as in we're complete opposites, not against. anti- is
used in that sense too, right? (Lookee a words question.)

-rashmi


_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:32 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12694
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00002075@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:55:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14236763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 13:55:43 -0400
Received: from mail.infochan.com (mail.infochan.com [208.52.68.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71HtfC21853 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:55:42 -0400
Received: from [169.254.143.149] ([208.138.22.79]) by mail.infochan.com
          (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with
          ESMTP id com for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:55:34
          -0500
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B96EE046.10592%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:55:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Canned Laughter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEDOFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

On 31/7/2002 8:52 PM, S Hess wrote:

>> I decided to turn on the electric teevee a little while ago and watch
>> something like maybe Larry King.  But I decided not to watch LK because
>> I wasn't in the mood for kidnapped/murdered children, so I flipped
>> through the guide and paused on "Keeping Up Appearances," something that
>> I think some of you are fans of and that I've seen once or twice in
>> Hville years ago when watching tv with my mother, who liked it.  Two
>> seconds made me turn it off, though.  I really can't abide canned
>> laughter.  Does it not bother others of you?
>>
>> --
>>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
> Agreed. Canned laughter is plain phoney and manipulative.

There was a show called 'Sports Night' which ran for one season a couple or
three years ago. Created by Aaron Sorkin who also did West Wing. It had no
laugh track, but Comedy Central added one when they aired it last year. It
sounded really weird. And dumb.

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:33 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12692
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0000205F@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:49:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14236460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 13:49:09 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com ([63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71Hn9C20885 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:49:09 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-196.panax.com
          [63.163.41.196]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g71Hlnn26670 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:47:49
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020801134120.009ffd90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:47:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801172051.UHWB22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>

>thread is about whether poor people can afford to eat
>healthy.      --lisa

I haven't done any grocery shopping for almost ten years now.  So this is a
sincere question:  Would not a healthy diet be something like pasta with
fresh veggies, Jiffy corn bread mix, breakfast cereal, fresh fruit,
calcium-fortified fruit juice, home-baked whole wheat bread, low fat
cheese, spicy white bean casserole, tuna salad (made with fresh greens,
some veggies, a small can of tuna, and a few nuts)?   Etc. Etc.   I have a
feeling that the ingredients for all those foods are really quite a bit
cheaper than any highly processed and packaged stuff like lunch meat and TV
dinners.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:34 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12698
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000020E0@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:07:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14238026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 14:07:57 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71I7vC23966 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:07:57 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust41.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.43]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005672854@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 14:07:56 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020801134120.009ffd90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D497963.A7140105@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:09:39 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> I haven't done any grocery shopping for almost ten years now.

Obviously. Would you want to guess how much a box of corn flakes costs?
Pasta? Bread? Tuna?

It might be that some of your suggested items could be used to bring in
a meal more cheaply than a TV dinner, but I am not so sure there is as
big a difference as you imagine.

Just glancing at the items I happen to have on hand:
6 oz. white tuna in water, $1.29--a family would need a few cans. To
make tuna salad I'd have to have mayonnaise ($3.29) and celery ($1.59)
on hand. Corn flakes, last I saw and when I stopped eating cereal long
ago, were over $3.00 for a medium-sized box, which might last a week,
depending. Add milk ($1.49 qt. and sugar $2.39 (5 lbs.) Corn bread mix
price ($1.39). Whole wheat bread is $1.59 at the store. I do not know
how much whole wheat flour is. Add to its cost the other ingredients,
though. And for some people, time is money. That is why God invented TV
dinners and lunch meat.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:35 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12701
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000021B2@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:44:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14240827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 14:44:58 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com ([63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71IivC29917 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:44:57 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-71.panax.com
          [65.114.190.71]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g71Ihbn06512 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:43:38
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020801134120.009ffd90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020801142607.00b65e20@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:43:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D497963.A7140105@valstar.net>

At 02:09 PM 8/1/2002 -0400, alyce wrote:
>Just glancing at the items I happen to have on hand:
>6 oz. white tuna in water, $1.29--a family would need a few cans. To
>make tuna salad I'd have to have mayonnaise ($3.29) and celery ($1.59)
>on hand. ....

The tuna salad that Bonnie referred to was one that I make, which uses a
small (not even 6 oz.) can of tuna in olive oil, a lot of lettuce, an
Italian tomato or two, a couple of green onions, a bit of cucumber, and
other veggies (blanched and cold-shocked green beans or asparagus, for
example).  The only mayo is as a part of the dressing---a jar the size that
you price, above, lasts a couple of months.  Good all purpose flour (King
Arthur) costs about $1.95 for a 5-lb bag---which makes several loaves of
bread, plus pizza dough.

Now, I am not contending that a family of four (or more) can eat as cheaply
as the two of us. On the other hand, you are arguing from a somewhat biased
position in that you don't like to eat (or cook, I suppose), so if you
contemplated cooking anything substantial, you probably <would> have a
decent-sized initial investment.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:35 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12704
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000021F4@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:57:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14241647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 14:57:06 -0400
Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71Iv6C31724 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:57:06 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id
          c.d1.1c2af268 (25914) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002
          14:56:53 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <d1.1c2af268.2a7ade75@aol.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:56:53 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 08/01/2002 1:08:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
alybooks@VALSTAR.NET writes:

<<
Obviously. Would you want to guess how much a box of corn flakes costs?
Pasta? Bread? Tuna?


>>

A 6 oz. can of chunk light in water costs around 55 cents; a 9 oz. can
costs 3 times as much.  I wonder if the stores here get a subsidy for
the 6 oz. cans because they are "WIC Approved."

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:35 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12707
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000221E@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:03:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14242179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:03:38 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71J3cC00399 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:03:38 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00396 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:03:37 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          15:03:38 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 15:03:32 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D494DC3.18488.191AD92@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:03:32 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801185823.ZTXT22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>

>
> The only one I can sort of answer is, what did actors do
> before laugh tracks. To the best of my knowledge, laugh
> tracks are added post production.


No, the question was how do actors who do not have the feedback
of real live laughter tailor their performances to what is really funny.

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:36 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12710
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00002254@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:14:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14242862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:14:51 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JEpC01735 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:14:51 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0600LV2ISQCT@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 01 Aug 2002 14:14:50 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020801134120.009ffd90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID:  <3D498848.8090309@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:13:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

>> thread is about whether poor people can afford to eat
>> healthy.      --lisa
>
>
> I haven't done any grocery shopping for almost ten years now.  So this is a
> sincere question:  Would not a healthy diet be something like pasta with
> fresh veggies, Jiffy corn bread mix, breakfast cereal, fresh fruit,
> calcium-fortified fruit juice, home-baked whole wheat bread, low fat
> cheese, spicy white bean casserole, tuna salad (made with fresh greens,
> some veggies, a small can of tuna, and a few nuts)?   Etc. Etc.   I have a
> feeling that the ingredients for all those foods are really quite a bit
> cheaper than any highly processed and packaged stuff like lunch meat and TV
> dinners.


        I just got back from the grocery store -- Lisa's innaugeral
run to pick out food she likes.  Homemade bread costs more
to make than storebought, so forget that (the yeast alone is
3/$1.19 and a loaf of bread is 99 cents).  Breakfast cereal
is hideously expensive -- $4/box in many cases (although can
be had on sale for $2/box plus 50cents off with the coupon).
  But fruits and veggies are expensive, even in the summer
when at their cheapest.  I just dropped $50 on produce and
yogurt with a few other odd things added in.

        But Rashmi is right -- healthy food is often not available in
poor neighborhoods.  When I hit a grocery store in a
marginal section of town, the veggies are horrible and the
meat section doesn't carry better cuts of meat.

        The girls are having yogurt and apples for lunch.  I am
having leftover pizza.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:37 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12716
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00002269@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:18:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14242518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:18:07 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f211.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.211]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71J86C00976 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:08:06 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          1 Aug 2002 12:08:01 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01
          Aug 2002 19:08:01 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 19:08:01.0316 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C16E3640:01C2398E]
Message-ID:  <F211U4A1ENkRm6RtZsa0001ae13@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:08:01 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar:

>discovered daguerreotypes bear this out. I am on the list so I may,
>by the modest powers of flaming bestowed upon me, rescue as many
>lost souls as I could out of the morass of boboism, geekism,
>thinkerism, aesthete-ism, contentism, cutesism, wussism, bytchism,
>NPRism, Atlanticism and overall lamism.

You left out my pet peeve: boomerism.

-rashmi


_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:37 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12712
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00002258@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:15:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14242927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:15:54 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JFsC01891 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:15:54 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0600LY5IUH4J@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 01 Aug 2002 14:15:54 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020801142210.0858E8684@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D498887.8050603@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:14:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Sylvia Edwards said:
>
>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>
>>>Well, Madeline is in English everywhere.
>>>
>>Rita's Ana reminds me of Madeline....  I have no idea why this is so.
>>
>
> Yes.
>


        I have to think about this.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:38 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12719
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000227D@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:21:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14243431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:21:38 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JLcC02888 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:21:38 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 88488847C; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 12:21:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801192137.88488847C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:21:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D498848.8090309@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Aug 1,
              2002  2:13:12 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
>         I just got back from the grocery store -- Lisa's innaugeral
> run to pick out food she likes.  Homemade bread costs more
> to make than storebought, so forget that (the yeast alone is
> 3/$1.19 and a loaf of bread is 99 cents).

A jar of yeast is a much better deal than the packets.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:39 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12721
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00002283@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:23:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14243513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:23:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JNOC03085 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:23:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2041B8420; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 12:23:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801192324.2041B8420@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:23:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D498887.8050603@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Aug 1,
              2002  2:14:15 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>
> > Sylvia Edwards said:
> >
> >>Karen Kay wrote:
> >>
> >>>Well, Madeline is in English everywhere.
> >>>
> >>Rita's Ana reminds me of Madeline....  I have no idea why this is so.
> >>
> >
> > Yes.
> >
>
>
>         I have to think about this.

I have been, since I agreed with Sylvia. That was a gut thing not a
head thing.

My head says something about Ana's originality being a factor.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:39 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12727
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00002298@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:27:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14243177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:27:59 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f222.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.222]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JHxC02422 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:17:59 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          1 Aug 2002 12:17:53 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01
          Aug 2002 19:17:53 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 19:17:53.0938 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[22A92720:01C23990]
Message-ID:  <F222UGV80iKXLWGEt5c0001ae07@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:17:53 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Namibia2004 Article II
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

This one's by Chris McIntyre, from the "I lost my heart in..." series.

http://travel.guardian.co.uk/lostmyheart/story/0,8634,410017,00.html

I was working in Zimbabwe in 1989, and Namibia seemed
a very distant land which hardly anyone had visited.
I went with a friend on a very short trip and now go
back for two or three weeks each year.

It has the landscape and game of Africa, deserts that
make you think of Lawrence of Arabia, and a first-world
infrastructure - truly breathtaking scenery, and the phones work.

The best place of all is Sossusvlei in central Namibia. There
are huge, apricot-coloured dunes, reputed to be the tallest
in the world, though who goes around measuring the height
of sand dunes? Around them is a white clay pan dotted with
beautiful, old, feathery acacia trees.

Namibia has one of the lowest population densities in the
world, so you don't see many people, but those you do meet
are friendly and very ethnically diverse, from Bushmen in
the Kalahari, Bantu in the north and white settlers of
German and Afrikaans descent.

Tourism is taking off, but not package tourism or beach
holidays because, although Namibia has 1,000 miles of
coastline and sandy beaches, a current comes straight
off the Antarctic, so the sea is bitterly cold. It also
has very few big hotels, so it only attracts small
groups of individual travellers.

The farmers who used to struggle to raise cattle in a
semi-desert with very low rainfall have realised that
keeping game and providing accommodation for tourists
provides a much better livelihood. Namibia has the
world's highest population of cheetahs, but farmers
buy in zebra, antelopes and even lions. A small farm
in Namibia is at least 100 sq km, so game and tourists
can wander around very freely.

You need to plan an itinerary before you go because
it could be 100 miles to the next guesthouse.

I love the feeling that I could be 50km away from the
next human. In some areas, the gravel retains tracks
for 50 years, so if there are no footprints, you can
be fairly certain you are the first person to stand there.



_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:40 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12725
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00002289@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:25:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14243572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:25:10 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JP9C03329 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:25:09 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust41.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.43]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004358582@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:25:09 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D49516A.9348.19FF464@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D498B7A.88E90796@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:26:50 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> yes, "do" not "did"
>
> If the track is added post-production, what kind of performence is
> the production sans laughter?

Some laughter is real, though, even now that there are laugh tracks. Ken
got paid to go sit in the audience for some shows in Hollywood. It's
food and rent money for extras.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:41 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12734
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000230E@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:50:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14245169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:50:34 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JoYC06600 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:50:34 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20773 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:50:31 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          15:50:35 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 15:50:19 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D4958B2.16507.1BC66D9@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:50:11 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801194428.CCDV24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58>

> >If the track is added post-production, what kind of
> >performence is the production sans laughter?
>
> Probably very similar to what your rehersal's (assuming
> there's not audience when  you reherse) are like.
>
> lisa

That's what I would be afraid of.  Rehearsals are all well and good
but they are not the finished product.  I have always found that
something kicks in with responding people present that moves the
performance, or at least my perception of it, to another level.  I am
amazed at film actors being able to imagine and use an audience's
response - particularly when a film is shot in disjointed pieces that
are later assembled.

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:41 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12732
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000022D0@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:40:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14243902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:40:16 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JUGC04134 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:30:16 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71JUFsp027841 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:30:15 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0208011528470.12008-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:30:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Namibia2004
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F127pxNuDfb6THOBhuE00016762@hotmail.com>

>The first day we drove through the impressive
>Naukluft mountains to that night's campsite

What were they driving? What languages/s is/are spoken there?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:42 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12739
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00002349@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:58:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14245849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:58:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JwgC07838 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:58:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E1A5984BE; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 12:58:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801195841.E1A5984BE@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:58:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4992CC.A974F9E4@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Aug 1,
              2002  3:58: 4 pm"

alyce cresap said:
> BUt poor people cannot afford the bigger quantities. They are limited to
> $X to be spent in a certain timeframe. If they lay out $10 for a
> 20-pound bag of flour, they won't have money left for something else
> that they need immediately. It is a Catch-22.

Well, as a poor person, I know that juggle--buy 20 lb of flour this
week, 20 lb of pasta the next, etc.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:43 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12737
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11269
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00002271@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:20:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14243286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:20:15 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JKFC02677 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:20:15 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust41.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.43]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004358484@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:20:13 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <d1.1c2af268.2a7ade75@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D498A52.899F661E@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:21:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Evelyn Duncan wrote:
>
> A 6 oz. can of chunk light in water costs around 55 cents;
Amazing!

> I wonder if the stores here get a subsidy for
> the 6 oz. cans because they are "WIC Approved."
>
I don't think so. That just means that things marked that way can be
paid for with WIC food stamps.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:42 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12742
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000023AF@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:13:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14247119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 16:13:40 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71KDeC10164 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:13:40 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc55 ([204.127.198.44]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020801201334.DQJV24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:13:34 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc55; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 20:13:33 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020801201334.DQJV24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:13:33 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

yeah.. what*ev*ah.

:-)

lisa
> Lisa Alfieri said:
> > >If the track is added post-production, what kind of
> > >performence is the production sans laughter?
> >
> > Probably very similar to what your rehersal's (assuming
> > there's not audience when  you reherse) are like.
>
> rehe*a*rse
>
> TYVM
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:44 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12745
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000023C4@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:18:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14247366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 16:18:27 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71KIQC10622 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:18:27 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc69 ([204.127.198.52]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020801201821.ERRR22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:18:21 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc69; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 20:18:19 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020801201821.ERRR22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:18:19 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

BTW, I meant to say that I didn't think a person could be
a successful film actor.. or perhaps television if he/she
happen to be on one of those shows that doesn't tape in
front of an audience.

So let me ask you this... you're acting and the audience
laughs when you expect them to so you probably don't
change that part, right? What about when they laugh when
you don't expect them to? Do you then start to anticipate
laughter at that point? Do you change how you act in that
scene? How about when they don't laugh? Do you change
something in the hopes of getting the laugh?

curious...

lisa
> > response. As a matter of fact I don't think you can be a
> > successful actor if that's what you need.
> >
> > lisa
>
>
> Perhaps that's why I'm an amateur.
>
> (I don't consider that a negative word btw - I do it because I love it
> not because I'm paid)
>
> BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:56:44 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12747
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:56:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000023D6@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:22:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14247562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 16:22:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71KM7C11052 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:22:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7ADE9809C; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 13:22:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801202205.7ADE9809C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:22:05 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801201821.ERRR22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69> from
              Lisa Alfieri at "Aug 1, 2002  8:18:19 pm"

Lisa Alfieri said:
> So let me ask you this... you're acting and the audience
> laughs when you expect them to so you probably don't
> change that part, right? What about when they laugh when
> you don't expect them to? Do you then start to anticipate
> laughter at that point? Do you change how you act in that
> scene? How about when they don't laugh? Do you change
> something in the hopes of getting the laugh?
>
> curious...

I've always wondered about those poor Brown actors. How many lives did
I traumatize?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:57:12 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12757
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:57:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000023F1@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:27:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14247942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 16:27:11 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71KRBC11842 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:27:11 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07514 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:27:09 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          16:27:11 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 16:27:07 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D496150.6376.1DE10A2@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:26:57 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801201821.ERRR22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>

For me it's usually not that intentional - it works at a subtler level.
Sometimes I can feel a response to a voice inflection or movement
and I make some unconscious decision to go a little bit more in
that direction.  Sometimes there are very intentional changes
between the first and second shows based on audience response.
Ten years ago we did a production of Macbeth and we had made a
dummy that fell from the balcony during a fight scene.  The first
time we used it, the audience laughed uproariously. It seemed like
a good idea, but wasn't well enough designed to look anywhere
near real.  We never used it again.

BrP



>
> So let me ask you this... you're acting and the audience
> laughs when you expect them to so you probably don't
> change that part, right? What about when they laugh when
> you don't expect them to? Do you then start to anticipate
> laughter at that point? Do you change how you act in that
> scene? How about when they don't laugh? Do you change
> something in the hopes of getting the laugh?
>
> curious...
>
> lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:57:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12763
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:57:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001886D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 8:08:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14204946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 08:08:27 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71C8Rq19377 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:08:27 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20344 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:08:26 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          08:08:26 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 08:08:00 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D48EC56.9003.151423@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:07:50 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Itch Report
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D488E6C.30400@swbell.net>

well said, Ana!
UncP

>
> Ana claims that mustard bites her mouth.
>

> >>--
> >>Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> >>rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> >>http://www.etext.org/~rita

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:57:17 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12765
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:57:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00188CE4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 9:22:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14210014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 09:22:23 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71DMNq31122 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:22:23 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust104.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.106]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004351304@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 09:22:23 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801010144.93D128329@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D488CF9.E580D45D@maynor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49367D.4A3D5360@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:24:13 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: What a Mad Wasp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
> I think my dr-going time is September, so maybe I will.  But he's a GP,
> who I bet doesn't know anything about between-boob bugs.

So who would know? You think there are between-boob bug specialists?

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:57:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12769
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:57:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00189B1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:27:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14222910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:27:14 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FREC26398 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:27:14 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06757 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:27:12 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          11:27:14 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 11:23:56 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D491A49.1916.C89959@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:23:55 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D49521F.883351CC@valstar.net>

It's actually Brother James, n'est ce pas? The English version of
the song says Brother John and I always wondered why it was
translated that way.  Is it because the sound of John fits better
than the sound of James?

FrP



> bonniev wrote:
>
> > It means Brother John, right?
>
> Oui. I would have corrected you sooner, but I waited till I'd read all
> of the mail to be sure not to be a duplicator.
>
> alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:57:18 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12764
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:57:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018870B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 8:12:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14205161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 08:11:59 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71CBxq19897 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:11:59 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws51-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.51]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g71CBu707286
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:11:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801010144.93D128329@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D488CF9.E580D45D@maynor.net>
            <000e01c238ff$524402c0$360332d1@0018079268>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49255B.AD09E8A9@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:11:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What a Mad Wasp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:

> You must see a cleavage specialist at once.

I looked in the yellow pages but couldn't find one.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:57:19 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12767
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:57:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00189984@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:13:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14221504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:13:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FD2C23072 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:13:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 44F5E8460; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 08:13:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801151301.44F5E8460@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:13:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D491580.3869.7F684A@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Aug
              1, 2002 11: 3:28 am"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> Would you care to express them here? I'd be interested -
> backchannel or on the list.

I'd like to see/hear Doris' and Alyce's letters.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:57:20 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12771
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:57:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00189E14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:54:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14224674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:54:21 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FiLC30047 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:44:21 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71FiLsp004219 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:44:21 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0208011143420.21152-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:44:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F89Zd9fNrUePN6CAiko0001acdc@hotmail.com>

On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Rashmi Murthy wrote:

>Worse, she spent so much time and energy obsessing over every
>little detail of the trip. What a waste of her time.

NOT

>-rashmi, the anti-Bethany

Bethany, somtimes anti-  and sometimes pro-

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:57:21 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12775
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:57:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018A1BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:27:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14229227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 12:27:21 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71GRLC06037 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:27:21 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0600LNUB1LCV@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 01 Aug 2002 11:27:21 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D4892CE.7030200@swbell.net>
            <001101c2396e$072116b0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Message-ID:  <3D496106.4050006@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:25:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: She's Here!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Alec D. Plotkin wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rita Chapman" <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
> To: <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:45 PM
> Subject: She's Here!
>
>
>
>>She's here!
>>
>>Good night :)
>>
>>--
>>Rita Rouvalis Chapman
>>rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
>>http://www.etext.org/~rita
>>
>>
>>
>
> Is she cute?


Oh, yes.  Tall and blonde.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:57:22 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12782
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:57:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018A7B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:20:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14234549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 13:20:57 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71HKvC16607 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:20:57 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc69 ([204.127.198.52]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020801172051.UHWB22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:20:51 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc69; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 17:20:50 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020801172051.UHWB22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:20:50 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I cand and do make a healthy version of eggplant parm.
However, the ones I was buying were not healthy. My guess
is, the bread was probably the healthiest part of the
whole sandwich.

Eggplant made properly (my opinion of course) is dipped
in egg, coated w/ bread crumbs, fried and laid to rest in
a pan with sauce and cheese. According to WW a serving is
a 3" x 4" piece, does not include bread and is 13 points.
My point range for my weight is 24 to 29 points a day.

I do agree with you that WOW chips are junk food. I
almost didn't include them in my post because I know this
thread is about whether poor people can afford to eat
healthy. I kept the reference in because even though I'm
not poor by any means I still feel the pinch when my
lower fat choices cost double.

lisa
who just threw out $20 worth of fish because some had
been in the freezer too long and some had gone bad due to
repeated and lengthy power outages in my 'hood.
> Lisa Alfieri said:
> > Take for instance lunch. Yesterday I bought sushi and a
> > Balance Bar for lunch. This costs $8.55. For $6-7 I could
> > have gotten an eggplant sub (large enough for lunch and
> > dinner), a small bag of chips and a soda.
>
> Is an eggplant sub inherently unhealthy? Can't you take the eggplant
> out of the bread and eat it?
>
> > Eating in can add up as well. Fish, a staple of my
> > healthy eating habits, gets expensive. So does buying WOW
> > chips for snacks. They're nearly twice the cost of
> > regular chips.
>
> But WOW chips are still junkfood in a way that nuts, for example, are
> not.
>
> I buy fish on sale and freeze it.
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:57:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12780
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:57:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018A03D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:11:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14227907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 12:11:32 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71GBWC03450 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:11:32 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust41.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.43]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005670499@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 12:11:31 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801151301.44F5E8460@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801115121.00a0b7b0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D495E1C.AD121EDD@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:13:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> Alyce, it seems to me that your letter to Bush simply questions his motives
> concerning a war with Iraq without actually addressing the issues of
> whether or not Iraq is aiding and abetting terrorists and whether or not
> there is truly any likelihood of Saddam honoring any kind of weapons
> inspection.  Your letter appears to me to be more sarcasm than content.
>
The purpose of my letter was to advise Bush of my opposition to a war.
Its purpose was not to debate the issue of whether Saddam is aiding and
abetting terrorists. I ahve no way of knowing. Saddam has said that he
will let UN inspectors in if Bush promises to lay off the war plans. I
said that. It is a fact. I simply do not believe that Saddam is about to
send an IBM laden with atomic particles to MDI, Maine. The "war against
terrorism" is a ruse to let Bush's father and all of his friends get
rich by stealing oil and laying a natural gas pipeline across
Afghanistan. It is too bad, Bonnie, that you feel the letter is
sarcastic. I think it is laden with facts and good reasons not to go to
war.
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:57:23 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12784
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:57:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018B881@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:56:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14245648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:56:26 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JuPC07440 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:56:25 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust106.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.108]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004359248@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:56:25 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801193525.7FA04847C@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4992CC.A974F9E4@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:58:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> And it's cheaper in bigger quantities.

BUt poor people cannot afford the bigger quantities. They are limited to
$X to be spent in a certain timeframe. If they lay out $10 for a
20-pound bag of flour, they won't have money left for something else
that they need immediately. It is a Catch-22.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:37 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12796
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11242
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00002033@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:40:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14235184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 13:40:59 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71HUwC18014 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:30:58 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71HUwsp012211 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:30:58 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0208011330350.9633-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:30:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F169ZngMPiJuh9G1CG80001ac45@hotmail.com>

On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Rashmi Murthy wrote:

>used in that sense too, right? (Lookee a words question.)

Is that allowed?

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:38 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12799
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11230
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001F6A@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:04:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14233010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 13:04:05 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71H45C13527 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:04:05 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust41.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.43]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005671556@mx1.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 13:04:04 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D496A6D.2AB91A6B@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:05:49 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      E-mail du jour
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I am sorry to say that the book you want has already been sold.  We have
updated our inventory with ABE, but it takes a little while.  Sorry for
the incontinence.
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:40 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12802
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11251
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00002140@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:26:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14238524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 14:26:26 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71IGQC25128 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:16:26 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71IGPsp030747 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:16:25 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0208011415530.9633-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:16:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D497963.A7140105@valstar.net>

On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

>Just glancing at the items I happen to have on hand:
>6 oz. white tuna in water, $1.29--a family would need a few cans. To

I paid $1.45 earlier today.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:41 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12805
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11281
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000022E7@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:44:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14244767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:44:34 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JiYC05898 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:44:34 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc58 ([204.127.198.47]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020801194428.CCDV24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:44:28 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc58; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 19:44:27 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020801194428.CCDV24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:44:27 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>If the track is added post-production, what kind of
>performence is the production sans laughter?

Probably very similar to what your rehersal's (assuming
there's not audience when  you reherse) are like.

lisa

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:42 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12810
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11288
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00002314@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:51:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14245273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:51:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JpPC06801 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:51:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7A10484C1; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 12:51:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801195124.7A10484C1@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:51:24 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801194428.CCDV24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58> from
              Lisa Alfieri at "Aug 1, 2002  7:44:27 pm"

Lisa Alfieri said:
> >If the track is added post-production, what kind of
> >performence is the production sans laughter?
>
> Probably very similar to what your rehersal's (assuming
> there's not audience when  you reherse) are like.

rehe*a*rse

TYVM

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:43 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12815
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11226
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00001F3A@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:58:47 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14232423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 12:58:48 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g71GwmC12508 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:58:48
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g71Gwl2225858 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002
          12:58:47 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEFFFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:57:04 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D48EA73.4017.DB3F5@localhost>

Me too. I'm thinking pink thoughts for you :)

Sandra

> Thank you.
>
> BrP
>
>
> > I wish you a lot of luck!
> >
> > Espen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:45 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12818
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11260
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000223F@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:09:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14242587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:09:16 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71J9FC01108 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:09:15 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4BD708318; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 12:09:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801190914.4BD708318@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:09:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Canned Laughter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B96EE046.10592%peterlevy@email.com> from Peter Levy at "Aug 1,
              2002 12:55:34 pm"

Peter Levy said:
> There was a show called 'Sports Night' which ran for one season a couple or
> three years ago. Created by Aaron Sorkin who also did West Wing. It had no
> laugh track, but Comedy Central added one when they aired it last year. It
> sounded really weird. And dumb.

I loved that show. It wasn't funny enough for a laugh track.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:46 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12821
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11259
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00002226@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:04:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14242281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:04:57 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71J4vC00579 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:04:57 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2AF58830B; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 12:04:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801190455.2AF58830B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:04:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D494DC3.18488.191AD92@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Aug
              1, 2002  3: 3:32 pm"

Paul R. Barfoot said:
> > The only one I can sort of answer is, what did actors do
> > before laugh tracks. To the best of my knowledge, laugh
> > tracks are added post production.
>
> No, the question was how do actors who do not have the feedback
> of real live laughter tailor their performances to what is really funny.

They don't. They don't have a clue what's funny.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:47 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12826
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11319
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018A7A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:20:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14233479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 13:20:11 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71HABC14493 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:10:11 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71HAAsp002548 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:10:10 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0208011309110.9633-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:10:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: E-mail du jour
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D49327E.28118.1272DA7@localhost>

On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:

>Sounds like a spellcheck oops:

Or did they think you would wet your pants because you did not get the
desired book immediately?

>> I am sorry to say that the book you want has already been sold.  We have
>> updated our inventory with ABE, but it takes a little while.  Sorry for
>> the incontinence.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:48 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12830
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11311
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00189C7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:39:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14223181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:39:57 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f91.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.91]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FTsC26944 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:29:54 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          1 Aug 2002 08:29:49 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01
          Aug 2002 15:29:49 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 15:29:49.0370 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[4605C9A0:01C23970]
Message-ID:  <F91v0232bQXuBpBKtwQ0001a8fd@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:49 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris M:

> > say this: GWTP, K*R*N! There's no Fernando. It's *er* or
> > Oleander.

> > Fernando is highly annoying.

>Let's just call him Fern.

Thanks, Doris. I'll just stay away from certain post(er)s for a
while. My problem, my solution.

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:49 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12833
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11241
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0000200E@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:32:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14235314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 13:32:33 -0400
Received: from pimout5-int.prodigy.net (pimout5-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g71HWXC18274 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:32:33
          -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout5-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g71HWW2178720 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002
          13:32:32 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEFIFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:30:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801115546.A79783@pobox.com>

Not I. I'm definitely a tenderfoot.

When you suffer, we all suffer for it.

Sandra

>  I suffer, but walk with
> tough feet on uncrushed grit. Name three front-benchers who would
> do this. (TBone)
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:50 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12836
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11291
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00002370@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:04:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14246319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 16:04:39 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71K4dC08666 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:04:39 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27767 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:04:35 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          16:04:36 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 16:04:08 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D495BF1.23343.1C913B2@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:04:01 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801200051.CZXP24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>

> response. As a matter of fact I don't think you can be a
> successful actor if that's what you need.
>
> lisa


Perhaps that's why I'm an amateur.

(I don't consider that a negative word btw - I do it because I love it
not because I'm paid)

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:51 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12842
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11236
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0000200A@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:31:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14235264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 13:31:42 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71HVgC18155 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:31:42 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust41.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.43]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005672081@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 13:31:42 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D49327E.28118.1272DA7@localhost>
            <3D493780.29133.13ABB9C@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4970E5.279F987C@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:33:25 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: E-mail du jour
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>
> Did you know that they always dressed Col Sanders in tan rather
> than white suits?

No. They have medicines now for that.

alyce

--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:53 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12845
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11323
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018B3E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:15:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14242935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:15:56 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JFuC01905 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:15:56 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc57 ([204.127.198.46]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020801191550.UJR22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:15:50 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc57; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 19:15:48 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020801191550.UJR22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:15:48 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

But you asked.. "How do actors, pre-laugh track, get that
kind of feedback?"

... and I was answering based on the fact that pre-laugh
track the shows were broadcast live.

lisa
> >
> > The only one I can sort of answer is, what did actors do
> > before laugh tracks. To the best of my knowledge, laugh
> > tracks are added post production.
>
>
> No, the question was how do actors who do not have the feedback
> of real live laughter tailor their performances to what is really funny.
>
> BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:54 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12848
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11296
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000023D9@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:23:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14247610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 16:23:04 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71KN4C11162 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:23:04 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc55 ([204.127.198.44]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020801202258.EDXP24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:22:58 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc55; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 20:22:57 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020801202258.EDXP24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:22:57 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

huh?
> Lisa Alfieri said:
> > So let me ask you this... you're acting and the audience
> > laughs when you expect them to so you probably don't
> > change that part, right? What about when they laugh when
> > you don't expect them to? Do you then start to anticipate
> > laughter at that point? Do you change how you act in that
> > scene? How about when they don't laugh? Do you change
> > something in the hopes of getting the laugh?
> >
> > curious...
>
> I've always wondered about those poor Brown actors. How many lives did
> I traumatize?
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:55 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12851
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11304
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00189253@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:19:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14214666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 10:19:30 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71EJTq09499 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:19:29 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2DA758DD8; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 07:19:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801141929.2DA758DD8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:19:29 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020801115849.0333fab0@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore
              at "Aug 1, 2002 12:48:49 pm"

Espen Ore said:
> 19:54 31.07.2002 -0700 skrev Karen Kay:
> >Ann Borkin said:
> > > On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, S Hess wrote:
> > > > I suspect Natalie is a former ballerina. Sustaining a pointy-toe position
> > > > for hours is second-nature to her.
> > >
> > > We'll see how she answers.  Maybe she sleeps on her sides; or if she
> > > sleeps on her back, maybe the covers push her toes up, not pointed down.
> >
> >Am I the only Wordsler who danced on their toes? (Other than Espen.:) )
>
> Male dancers don't dance on their toes.

I know; that's what the smiley was for.

I don't remember wearing tights, though.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:56 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12857
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11325
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018BBCC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:24:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14247679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 16:24:25 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71KOOC11315 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:24:24 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 763B37F86; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 13:24:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801202422.763B37F86@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:24:22 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801202258.EDXP24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> from
              Lisa Alfieri at "Aug 1, 2002  8:22:57 pm"

Lisa Alfieri said:
> huh?

At Clambake.

> > Lisa Alfieri said:
> > > So let me ask you this... you're acting and the audience
> > > laughs when you expect them to so you probably don't
> > > change that part, right? What about when they laugh when
> > > you don't expect them to? Do you then start to anticipate
> > > laughter at that point? Do you change how you act in that
> > > scene? How about when they don't laugh? Do you change
> > > something in the hopes of getting the laugh?
> > >
> > > curious...
> >
> > I've always wondered about those poor Brown actors. How many lives did
> > I traumatize?
> >
> > Karen
>

Karen
famous laugher

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:57 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12860
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11275
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000022B9@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:35:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14244160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:35:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JZQC04637 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:35:26 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7FA04847C; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 12:35:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801193525.7FA04847C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:35:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020801142607.00b65e20@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Aug 1, 2002  2:43:31 pm"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> The tuna salad that Bonnie referred to was one that I make, which uses a
> small (not even 6 oz.) can of tuna in olive oil, a lot of lettuce, an
> Italian tomato or two, a couple of green onions, a bit of cucumber, and
> other veggies (blanched and cold-shocked green beans or asparagus, for
> example).

IMHO, this is the trick to good-tasting cheap cooking that most people
in poverty don't have the time for: using a variety of fresh
ingredients. Fernando amazes me with this all the time.

> Good all purpose flour (King
> Arthur) costs about $1.95 for a 5-lb bag---which makes several loaves of
> bread, plus pizza dough.

And it's cheaper in bigger quantities.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:58:59 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12863
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11233
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00001FF9@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:28:57 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14235060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 13:28:58 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71HSwC17776 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:28:58 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23983 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:28:56 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          13:28:57 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 13:28:35 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <3D49327E.28118.1272DA7@localhost>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D493780.29133.13ABB9C@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:28:33 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: E-mail du jour
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0208011309110.9633-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>

Did you know that they always dressed Col Sanders in tan rather
than white suits?

BrP




> On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote:
>
> >Sounds like a spellcheck oops:
>
> Or did they think you would wet your pants because you did not get the
> desired book immediately?
>
> >> I am sorry to say that the book you want has already been sold.  We have
> >> updated our inventory with ABE, but it takes a little while.  Sorry for
> >> the incontinence.
>
> Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:00 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12866
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:58:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11305
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00189967@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:12:35 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14221407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:12:35 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FCYC22921 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:12:34 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc58 ([204.127.198.47]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020801151229.NVER24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:12:29 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc58; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 15:12:27 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020801151229.NVER24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:12:27 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Drive-In
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

By the timing of my response you can tell I'm WAY behind
on list mail and am randomly picking and chosing the
subjects I read and contribute to.

Anyway, the answer is, you need a radio because most of
the speakers have been removed (stolen or otherwise) from
drive ins and the sound is now piped in via radio. Some
drive ins have AM and FM stations. Some, like the one I
went to only have FM.
lisa
> Lisa Alfieri wrote:
>
> > What I do remember is we went in a beater car that didn't
> > have an FM radio. That meant we had to park in the back
> > at one of the few remaining speaker stations.
>
> FM radio?  I can tell that drive-ins have changed since I last went.
> What does a car's radio have to do with it?
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:01 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12871
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11309
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00189A31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:19:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14222125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:18:57 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FIuC24545 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:18:57 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc69 ([204.127.198.52]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020801151851.NYFH22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:18:51 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc69; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 15:18:49 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020801151851.NYFH22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:18:49 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Whether I go out to eat or cook at home, I find it's more
expensive to eat healthy than it is to eat crap.

Take for instance lunch. Yesterday I bought sushi and a
Balance Bar for lunch. This costs $8.55. For $6-7 I could
have gotten an eggplant sub (large enough for lunch and
dinner), a small bag of chips and a soda.

Eating in can add up as well. Fish, a staple of my
healthy eating habits, gets expensive. So does buying WOW
chips for snacks. They're nearly twice the cost of
regular chips.

lisa
> Adam Hartfield wrote:
>
> > Right. Eating healthily takes more time, effort, money than eating
> > non-healthily.
>
> Time and effort perhaps, but I'm not convinced about money.  Beans and
> rice aren't usually expensive.  The only expensive part of good
> nutrition might be the green part.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:02 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12874
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11267
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0000226F@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:19:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14243264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:19:44 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JJiC02610 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:19:44 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07615 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:19:30 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          15:19:39 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 15:19:16 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D49516A.9348.19FF464@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:19:06 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801191550.UJR22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>

yes, "do" not "did"

If the track is added post-production, what kind of performence is
the production sans laughter?

sorry to have misled you

BrP


> But you asked.. "How do actors, pre-laugh track, get that
> kind of feedback?"
>
> ... and I was answering based on the fact that pre-laugh
> track the shows were broadcast live.
>
> lisa
> > >
> > > The only one I can sort of answer is, what did actors do
> > > before laugh tracks. To the best of my knowledge, laugh
> > > tracks are added post production.
> >
> >
> > No, the question was how do actors who do not have the feedback
> > of real live laughter tailor their performances to what is really funny.
> >
> > BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:03 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12877
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11246
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000020DE@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:06:24 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14237999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 14:06:25 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71I6OC23844 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:06:24 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.40]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H06FK200.6SY for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:04:50 -0700
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq  (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801151301.44F5E8460@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801115121.00a0b7b0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D495E1C.AD121EDD@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49785E.DD12F53B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:05:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

>  Saddam has said that he
> will let UN inspectors in if Bush promises to lay off the war plans.

    And his excuse last year was?  And the year before that?  And the year before
that?

>  I simply do not believe that Saddam is about to
> send an IBM laden with atomic particles to MDI, Maine.

    Just as he'd never launch Scuds against Israel and Saudi Arabia.

> The "war against
> terrorism" is a ruse to let Bush's father and all of his friends get
> rich by stealing oil and laying a natural gas pipeline across
> Afghanistan.

    Y'know, here it is thirty years later, and Vietnam hasn't bothered to tap
into that sea of oil they were sitting atop of, which as everyone knows is the
real reason we were fighting a war there.  Why is that, do you suppose?

JMW

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:04 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12880
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11280
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000022C6@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:37:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14243763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:37:52 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JRqC03797 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:27:52 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71JRqsp026905 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:27:52 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0208011522260.12008-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:27:52 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801192137.88488847C@yellow.rahul.net>

>A jar of yeast is a much better deal than the packets.

Speaking of yeast ... I own a Vitamix 3000, purchased many years ago for
bad reasons. I tend to use it for a while, then forget about it. I have
been using it again recently (it makes fantastic soups, smoothies, and
frozen desserts), and I have decided to try to make wholegrain bread with
it. You buy whole grain, not flour, then grind it in the Vitamix. Has
anyone else used one to make bread like that?

I made an incredible frozen dessert last week - I mixed 20 oz. assorted
frozen fruit (mangos, strawberries, grapes, bananas, melon - I was out of
peaches) with about 2/3 - 3/4 c. heavy organic cream. It's wonderful. I
refroze lots and have discovered that 30-60 minutes on defrost in the
microwave restores the desired texture. It's not fatfree and not
extremely low-calorie - but there's no sugar in it, nothing but cream and
fruit - and it is at least as good as most ice cream I have eaten.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:06 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12883
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11266
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00002268@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:17:31 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14243142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:17:31 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JHVC02318 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:17:31 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust41.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.43]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004358431@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:17:31 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020801134120.009ffd90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801142607.00b65e20@mail.panax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4989AE.ED919CAC@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:19:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote:
> you are arguing from a somewhat biased
> position in that you don't like to eat (or cook, I suppose), so if you
> contemplated cooking anything substantial, you probably <would> have a
> decent-sized initial investment.

There have been times in my checkered past when I cooked (for more than
just myself, even). I know that with careful planning, you can stretch
food dollars a long way. Italian plum tomatoes (around here) would shoot
a day's budget, though.

When Ken was in California, my grocery bill was about $50 a week,
including food for two large dogs. And including frozen Stouffer's Welsh
Rarebit, which they now have ruined.

alyce
>
> cwv


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:07 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12886
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11290
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00002360@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:00:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14246080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 16:00:57 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71K0vC08131 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:00:57 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc56 ([204.127.198.45]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020801200051.CZXP24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:00:51 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc56; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 20:00:50 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020801200051.CZXP24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:00:50 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I've heard film actors say it's very hard to act when
there's no audience. Roseanne said it when she did the
movie She-Devil. She explained she was a stand up comic
and not having a reaction was tough for her.

So maybe film actors aren't anticipating the audience's
response. As a matter of fact I don't think you can be a
successful actor if that's what you need.

lisa
> > >If the track is added post-production, what kind of
> > >performence is the production sans laughter?
> >
> > Probably very similar to what your rehersal's (assuming
> > there's not audience when  you reherse) are like.
> >
> > lisa
>
> That's what I would be afraid of.  Rehearsals are all well and good
> but they are not the finished product.  I have always found that
> something kicks in with responding people present that moves the
> performance, or at least my perception of it, to another level.  I am
> amazed at film actors being able to imagine and use an audience's
> response - particularly when a film is shot in disjointed pieces that
> are later assembled.
>
> BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:09 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12889
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11248
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000020DF@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:07:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14238014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 14:07:13 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71I7DC23928 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:07:13 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08390 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:07:07 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          14:07:09 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 14:06:50 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEDOFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D49406F.13987.15DA240@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:06:41 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <B96EE046.10592%peterlevy@email.com>

Who are the original laughers whose laughter is recorded for laugh
tracks?  Do they record an audience at a real but unrelated event?
Do they have professional laughers?  Do they audition laughers for
the job?  Who decides where to add laughter and what kind?  As
an actor, I have often found that people laughed in unexpected
places or didn't laugh in expected places and that the
unexpectedness of it added to it being funny and informed me and
made my performance better.  How do actors, pre-laugh track, get
that kind of feedback? Oh, and while we're at it, who are the
musicians who perform muzak - and who are the arrangers who
take an interesting piece of music and arrange-out all that is
interesting?  Do they feel artistically fulfilled by their jobs?

BrP



>
> There was a show called 'Sports Night' which ran for one season a couple or
> three years ago. Created by Aaron Sorkin who also did West Wing. It had no
> laugh track, but Comedy Central added one when they aired it last year. It
> sounded really weird. And dumb.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:10 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12892
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11254
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000021FF@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:58:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14241799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 14:58:29 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71IwSC32014 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:58:28 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc56 ([204.127.198.45]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020801185823.ZTXT22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:58:23 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc56; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:58:21 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020801185823.ZTXT22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:58:21 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

You're right. There are too many questions here.

The only one I can sort of answer is, what did actors do
before laugh tracks. To the best of my knowledge, laugh
tracks are added post production.

I remember hearing something about them being invented
when television went from live broadcasts to, "taped in
front of a live studio audience".

lisa
> Who are the original laughers whose laughter is recorded for laugh
> tracks?  Do they record an audience at a real but unrelated event?
> Do they have professional laughers?  Do they audition laughers for
> the job?  Who decides where to add laughter and what kind?  As
> an actor, I have often found that people laughed in unexpected
> places or didn't laugh in expected places and that the
> unexpectedness of it added to it being funny and informed me and
> made my performance better.  How do actors, pre-laugh track, get
> that kind of feedback? Oh, and while we're at it, who are the
> musicians who perform muzak - and who are the arrangers who
> take an interesting piece of music and arrange-out all that is
> interesting?  Do they feel artistically fulfilled by their jobs?
>
> BrP
>
>
>
> >
> > There was a show called 'Sports Night' which ran for one season a couple or
> > three years ago. Created by Aaron Sorkin who also did West Wing. It had no
> > laugh track, but Comedy Central added one when they aired it last year. It
> > sounded really weird. And dumb.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:16 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12895
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11316
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018A5FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:05:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14232184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 13:05:47 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71GtkC11946 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:55:46 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B236382 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,  1 Aug 2002 11:55:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g71Gtk186843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:55:46
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020731210627.9FB588164@yellow.rahul.net>;
            <20020731155224.A16233@pobox.com>
            <20020731210627.9FB588164@yellow.rahul.net>
            <20020731174737.H45240@pobox.com>
            <v03130302b96e4176ced5@[198.144.202.197]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020801115546.A79783@pobox.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:55:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130302b96e4176ced5@[198.144.202.197]>; from
              bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM on Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 07:46:59PM -0700

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 07:46:59PM -0700, Bookrat wrote:
> At 3:47 PM -0700 7/31/02, Tushar Samant wrote:
> >A whole list of freakin front-bench nerds .. the horror, O the horror
>
> Point of fact: that is exactly why you are on this list in the first place,
> is it not?
>
> And deep down, you know you love being a front-bench nerd.  Acknowledge it,
> admit it, revel in it.
>
> Ken Miller
> Steve Russell School of Geek Studies

Absolutely not. Ken Miller, just what's your problem? I deny
being front-bench in toto. I was always back bench, and recently
discovered daguerreotypes bear this out. I am on the list so I may,
by the modest powers of flaming bestowed upon me, rescue as many
lost souls as I could out of the morass of boboism, geekism,
thinkerism, aesthete-ism, contentism, cutesism, wussism, bytchism,
NPRism, Atlanticism and overall lamism. I suffer, but walk with
tough feet on uncrushed grit. Name three front-benchers who would
do this.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:18 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12898
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11223
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001E55@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:28:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14229330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 12:28:43 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71GShC06224 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:28:43 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by
          pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g71GSh1d374445 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:28:43 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <001401c23978$808e3fa0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:28:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D495E1C.AD121EDD@valstar.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of alyce cresap
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:13 PM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Question
>
>
> bonniev wrote:
> >
> > Alyce, it seems to me that your letter to Bush simply
> questions his motives
> > concerning a war with Iraq without actually addressing the issues of
> > whether or not Iraq is aiding and abetting terrorists and
> whether or not
> > there is truly any likelihood of Saddam honoring any kind of weapons
> > inspection.  Your letter appears to me to be more sarcasm
> than content.
> >
> The purpose of my letter was to advise Bush of my opposition to a war.
> Its purpose was not to debate the issue of whether Saddam is
> aiding and
> abetting terrorists. I ahve no way of knowing. Saddam has said that he
> will let UN inspectors in if Bush promises to lay off the war plans. I
> said that. It is a fact. I simply do not believe that Saddam
> is about to
> send an IBM laden with atomic particles to MDI, Maine. The
> "war against
> terrorism" is a ruse to let Bush's father and all of his friends get
> rich by stealing oil and laying a natural gas pipeline across
> Afghanistan. It is too bad, Bonnie, that you feel the letter is
> sarcastic. I think it is laden with facts and good reasons
> not to go to
> war.
> --
> alyce
>

I pray he never sends IBM anywhere. I pray an ICBM never goes anywhere
either.


alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:19 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12901
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11220
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001D3C@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:55:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14225943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:55:35 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com ([63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FtZC32302 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:55:35 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-120.panax.com
          [65.114.190.120]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g71FsEn26928 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:54:15
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <20020801151301.44F5E8460@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020801115121.00a0b7b0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:54:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D49568D.7EC4D125@valstar.net>

Alyce, it seems to me that your letter to Bush simply questions his motives
concerning a war with Iraq without actually addressing the issues of
whether or not Iraq is aiding and abetting terrorists and whether or not
there is truly any likelihood of Saddam honoring any kind of weapons
inspection.  Your letter appears to me to be more sarcasm than content.


>Dear President Bush,
>
>I am deeply concerned about your apparent plans to attack Iraq. I oppose
>the your administration's plan to invade, conquer, and occupy Iraq.
>
>Iraq will accept a resumption of UN weapons inspections if the US agrees
>not to invade. But as far as I can see, you refuse to accept new weapons
>inspections for reasons that are purely political:
>
>Your poll ratings are falling quickly because of public outrage over
>corporate corruption scandals and the
>falling stock market. Do you need another war to change the news
>headlines and boost the poll ratings?
>
>I fear that this proposed war is really for oil. I am mindful of Senator
>Bob Smith's (R-NH) remarks on April 12, 2002, when he told a large group
>of Republicans: "Why don't we just take [Iraq's] oil? Why buy it? Take
>it!"
>
>Your weapons industry donors will profit from another war.  Among them
>is James Baker, a major investor in the Carlyle Group, one of the
>largest weapons manufacturers in the US.
>
>While the United States is a great nation, I fear that we may be guilty
>of hubris. We cannot rule the world, nor fight all of its injustices by
>ourselves. The Gulf War cost $60 billion dollars. Much of that was paid
>by Kuwait, Japan, and others. I am concerned that a new war on Iraq will
>cost even more, and this time there will be no others to help to foot
>the bill. And of course the cost is not in dollars alone, but in lives.
>I have heard estimates of 250,000 troops being needed, and surely those
>250,000 people would not escape the conflict without losses.
>
>There are many other reasons to resist a war, but this letter already is
>long. At a time when this country is just barely coming out of a
>recession, it would be so much wiser to use our resources for the common
>good, for peaceful solutions to international disputes, for health care,
>education, housing, etc.
>
>I urge you to think twice, three times, and more, before you engage us
>in an Iraqi "adventure."
>
>Sincerely,
>alyce cresap

    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:20 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12904
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11272
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:06 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00002287@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:24:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14242861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 15:24:43 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f127.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.127]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71JEhC01722 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:14:43 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          1 Aug 2002 12:14:37 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01
          Aug 2002 19:14:37 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 19:14:37.0995 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[ADDE9FB0:01C2398F]
Message-ID:  <F127pxNuDfb6THOBhuE00016762@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:14:37 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Namibia2004
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Two articles (from the Guardian web site) to get wordslurs
thinking about Namibia. Hope everyone's saving their pennies.

================================================================
I was a little concerned when I turned up at the
offices of Wild Dog Safaris in Windhoek and found
that there was only one other person booked on
their weekly tour round southern Namibia. I had
visions of my trip being cancelled due to lack
of numbers, but I needn't have worried: unlike
some other companies, Wild Dog guarantees their
departure dates and the trip was still on. So
off we went - just me, a Dutch guy called Menno
and our guide, Julia.You may think that with
only three of us things might have been a bit
quiet, but this was to be the best tour I'd
been on in the whole six months.

The first day we drove through the impressive
Naukluft mountains to that night's campsite
at Sesriem, on the edge of the Namib Desert.
I can't get over how good Namibian campsites
are - very different from my experience of
camping in England. At Sesriem each site
had a low circular wall round it with a tree
in the middle for shade and a stone cooking
area. Nearby were hot showers, a bar and
even a pool. The name Sesriem (six ropes)
refers to the six joined ropes that were
needed to pull water from the bottom of
the canyon. It was a lovely spot, and
with the setting sun glowing on the distant
hills we set up camp (this didn't take
long - there were only two tents, after all)
and had a delicious braai under the stars.

We got up early and climbed the 150m-high
dunes to watch the sunrise. The Namib
stretches for hundreds of kilometres and
contains some of the world's highest and
oldest dunefields. Built of quartz sand,
the dunes are sculpted by the wind into
sinuous, curving shapes. As the sun came
up, we watched the sand around us turn
from grey to a deep red while the sky
became a piercing blue. The depth of this
colour change was startling. We sat
and gazed in a silence broken only by
the gentle sound of the windblown sand
covering our footprints along the dune edge.

After scrambling back down to the plain for
a breakfast of bread and marmalade
washed down with coffee, we went on
to Sossusvlei. Here, vivid yellow
flowers had sprung up to cover the
gravel plain after the recent heavy
rains. We hiked the 6km into the dunes
to the bizarre Dead Vlei - a sun-scorched
pan scattered with dead trees - and
then up Sossusvlei dune itself for a
another good view of the landscape. By
this time it was noon and the sun was
beating down so we headed back to the
campsite to have lunch and cool down.
The afternoon was spent relaxing
followed by a sunset beer looking out
across the desert.

Next morning we were up early again
for the long drive through the Namib
desert. The scenery was amazing. The
scorched red dunes turned into silvery-
green grassland and distant mountains
rose out of the shimmering veldt.

We reached the small town of Aus and
stayed on a nearby farm in a small
cottage called Geister Schlucht, which
was nestled in a beautiful, isolated
location at the head of a little valley
overlooking the rolling hills. We were
near the coast here and the temperature
had dropped again. Fortunately there
was a hearth inside the cottage and
Julia quickly lit a roaring fire.

In the morning, low cloud cloaked
the desert as we drove to the ghost-town
of Kolmanskop. This used to be a
buzzing diamond-mining town with its
own casino, theatre and railway.
When the diamonds ran out, the
place died and no-one has lived
here since the 1950s. Now the dunes
have shifted back to reclaim the town.
Sand lies piled up against the buildings
and drifts into the empty rooms.

The eerie atmosphere deepened
when we returned to the cottage to
find it, too, fogbound. As we huddled by the fire,
Julia helped things along by mentioning that
Geister Schlucht was German for ghost valley
and then telling me about an evil spirit of
the local Ovambo tribe called Osholulu.
Apparently this cheery neon-blue apparition
has a habit of turning up on stormy nights
and cursing everyone. That night I slept
restlessly and was not at all happy when I
had to venture out into the dark for a pee.
There didn't seem to be anything blue about
but as soon as possible I scurried back
inside and hid in my sleeping bag.

In the morning, the sun was back in the sky,
throwing its warm light on the valley
and giving it a completely different feel.

We drove further south to our last stop,
the Fish River Canyon. This is a huge gorge,
160km in length and up to 500m deep. Apparently
it's second only in size to the Grand Canyon
in the US and it was certainly very impressive.
It's possible to do five-day hikes through
the canyon, but we contented ourselves with
a walk along the top. The views were incredible
and if you listened carefully you could just
hear the river rushing along far below.

My plan now was to carry on down to South Africa.
Julia was taking Menno back to Windhoek so it
was time to leave them and catch another bus to the border.

Namibia is totally different from anywhere else
in Africa and I've had a great two weeks there.
I'm not normally a big fan of organised trips,
but I wouldn't have seen half the things I did
if I'd tried to tackle this vast, magical
country on my own. If you're coming to Namibia
I would certainly recommend taking one of these
tours - just make sure you've got Julia as your guide.




_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:22 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12907
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:21 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11198
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001B49@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:59:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14219355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 10:59:10 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71ExAC19228 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:59:10 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust41.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.43]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005668991@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 10:59:07 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801142442.AE509864D@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D494D26.B97834E3@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:00:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> >
> So the French is a translation? Tres bizarre.

Oui.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:23 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12910
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11186
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001A29@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:24:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14215292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 10:24:43 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71EOhq10653 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:24:43 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AE509864D; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 07:24:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801142442.AE509864D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:24:42 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4935F6.A93044EE@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Aug 1,
              2002  9:21:58 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Well, Madeline is in English everywhere.
>
> Which makes sense, because it was written in English by an American,
> Ludwig Bemelmans.

So the French is a translation? Tres bizarre.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:24 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12913
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11189
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00001A2B@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:25:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14215310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 10:25:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71EPCq10731 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:25:12 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C04358DD8; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 07:25:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801142511.C04358DD8@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:25:11 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D493735.21EDBC8A@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Aug 1,
              2002  9:27:17 am"

alyce cresap said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > She was a bitch, which is what everyone I know who knew her said.
>
> I did not find her to be a bitch. She was jolly and funny and paid me
> promptly.

Good for you!

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:25 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12916
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11180
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000019C4@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:09:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14213918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 10:09:54 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71E9sq07652 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:09:54 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust152.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.154]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005667937@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 10:09:53 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020731224539.00a1bdb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020731225610.00a1a770@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49419F.1DBE33DF@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:11:43 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
> Friar Jaques.

Frere Jacques


alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:26 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12920
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11147
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001771@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 8:22:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14205851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 08:22:50 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71CMoq21738 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:22:50 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws51-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.51]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g71CMm709573
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:22:48 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D48EB74.1698.11A0CE@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D492816.256EBB04@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:22:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
>  If they really want to hire me, however, they will make the
> offer so specific that I am the only one who qualifies.

And that is indeed what they should do!

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:27 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12923
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11165
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000189F@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 9:20:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14209911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 09:20:10 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71DK9q30882 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:20:10 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust104.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.106]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004351267@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 09:20:08 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801025829.250FA8219@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4935F6.A93044EE@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:21:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Well, Madeline is in English everywhere.

Which makes sense, because it was written in English by an American,
Ludwig Bemelmans.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:29 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12926
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11168
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000018DE@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 9:30:06 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14210784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 09:30:06 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71DU6q00334 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:30:06 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust104.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.106]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004351459@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 09:30:06 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801025414.42C9D7DD0@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49384C.66734C71@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:31:56 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Am I the only Wordsler who danced on their toes? (Other than Espen.:) )

No. I had pink satin toe shoes and can/could pirouette with the best of
them.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:30 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12931
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11159
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00001875@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 9:13:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14209292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 09:13:05 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71DD5q29527 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:13:05 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-75.panax.com
          [65.114.190.75]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g71DD6n23631 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:13:06
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D492816.256EBB04@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020801091225.009fccb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:12:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D48F42C.2356.33AEB2@localhost>

>In many ways, I am not ready to make the jump (what to
>do with my house for example)       --BrP

A house is just a house.  Where Steve is, is home.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:30 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12930
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11208
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001C21@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:21:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14222223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:21:01 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FL1C24817 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:21:01 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g71FRub05671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:27:56
          +0200
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020731224539.00a1bdb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020731225610.00a1a770@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D49419F.1DBE33DF@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020801172756.A5658@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:27:56 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D49419F.1DBE33DF@valstar.net>; from alybooks@VALSTAR.NET on
              Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 10:11:43AM -0400

 bonniev wrote:
 > Friar Jaques.

good thing roy doesn't troll on his name

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:31 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12935
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11164
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000018BA@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 9:25:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14210227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 09:25:27 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71DPRq31642 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:25:27 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust104.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.106]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004351352@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 09:25:27 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801013232.CABCE7D22@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D493735.21EDBC8A@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:27:17 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Karen, don't argue religion!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
>
> She was a bitch, which is what everyone I know who knew her said.

I did not find her to be a bitch. She was jolly and funny and paid me
promptly.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:32 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12936
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11152
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000178B@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 8:27:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14206204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 08:27:40 -0400
Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net
          [207.69.200.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g71CReq22457 for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002
          08:27:40 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0330.dialsprint.net ([63.190.1.76]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp
          (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17aF3K-0005Pq-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu,
          01 Aug 2002 08:27:38 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801025829.250FA8219@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D492943.1DB096E6@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:27:47 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Well, Madeline is in English everywhere.

Rita's Ana reminds me of Madeline....  I have no idea why this is so.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:32 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12940
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11194
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001A74@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:35:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14215332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 10:35:23 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71EPNq10931 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:25:23 -0400
Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71EPMsp001885 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:25:22 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g71EPNq10932
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0208011023560.7716-100000@moe.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:25:22 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Finland presentation
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Esa Penttilä will be reading my paper on Thursday of next week. (He is the
conf. organizer.)

So far, I get the prize for having the most extraordinary reason for
canceling.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:33 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12942
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11217
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00001CF9@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:48:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14225129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:48:45 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com ([63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FmiC31039 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:48:44 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-71.panax.com
          [65.114.190.71]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g71FlPn25599 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:47:25
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020801114412.00b412c0@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:47:15 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F89Zd9fNrUePN6CAiko0001acdc@hotmail.com>

At 03:29 PM 8/1/2002 +0000, rashmi wrote:
 >Worse, she spent so much time and energy obsessing over every
>little detail...

That is her <other> hobby.

>  PS I encountered plenty of Euro-swagger last week about the state
>of the USD vis-a-vis the Euro. :-(

Well, what goes around comes around.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:34 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12945
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11202
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00001BF3@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:13:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14221599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:13:44 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FDiC23287 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:13:44 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pobox.upenn.edu
          (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g71FDh1d211167 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:13:43 -0400 (EDT)
References:  <3D4892CE.7030200@swbell.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <001101c2396e$072116b0$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:13:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: She's Here!
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rita Chapman" <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
To: <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:45 PM
Subject: She's Here!


> She's here!
>
> Good night :)
>
> --
> Rita Rouvalis Chapman
> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
> http://www.etext.org/~rita
>
>

Is she cute?

alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:35 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12951
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11207
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00001C23@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:21:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14222256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:21:31 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FLUC24855 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:21:30 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g71FSPl05680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:28:25
          +0200
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020731224539.00a1bdb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020731225610.00a1a770@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801111040.00a088f0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D49521F.883351CC@valstar.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020801172825.B5658@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:28:25 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D49521F.883351CC@valstar.net>; from alybooks@VALSTAR.NET on
              Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 11:22:07AM -0400

=
= Oui. I would have corrected you sooner, but I waited till I'd read all
= of the mail to be sure not to be a duplicator.
=
= alyce

to be so concientious is not the words-l way!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:35 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12948
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:33 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11174
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00001966@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 9:55:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14212598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 09:55:55 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71Dttq04648 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:55:55 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust152.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.154]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004351845@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 09:55:55 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAEEEHFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D493E58.ACE4AE13@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:57:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

S Hess wrote:
>
> there are white house personnel whose job it is to make sure you get a
> reply. And they do convey the general concensus to the Office of the
> President.

They are volunteers and they are overwhelmed. I did get a reply from the
Clinton White House, but none (so far) from the current sitting
president.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:36 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12958
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11195
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:51 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00001B35@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:57:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14218854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 10:57:05 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71Ev5C17839 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:57:05 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C07C3848A; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 07:57:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801145703.C07C3848A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:57:03 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D493E03.DFA3AE7E@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Aug 1,
              2002  9:56:19 am"

alyce cresap said:
> You have even a more
> important reason, as do the parents of 250,000 other kids who, they say,
> would be needed for this stupid endeavor.

The other night, Fernando came over and we were talking about our
days. He had phoned his mother and his brother-in-law, and we talked
about that, and I told him I had gotten e-mail from my brother, who is
happy to be near his twin, but bored with his job guarding prisoners
at Walter Reed Hospitals. This led to a long rant about wanting to
keep my brother right where he is. I was surprised--I haven't really
talked to anyone else about this, but I have definite opinions.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:36 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12956
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11146
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000176F@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 8:22:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14205821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 08:22:10 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71CMAq21710 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:22:10 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws51-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.51]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g71CM7709448
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:22:07 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207312145570.20180-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020801115849.0333fab0@victoria.nb.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4927ED.DAEA611B@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:22:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Duvets
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Espen Ore wrote:

> Male dancers don't dance on their toes. (But they wear tights.)

Oh yes.  I think that (the latter) was one of the reasons my friends and
I loved taking ballet from Rex Cooper.  His tights were very tight, and
his genitals generous.  He and his wife had been ballet dancers in NYC
but had moved back to Jackson so that their son could grow up there.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:37 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12964
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11173
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000195B@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 9:54:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14212479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 09:54:31 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71DsVq04420 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:54:31 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust152.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.154]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004351819@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 09:54:30 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <001a01c23911$bfff44c0$360332d1@0018079268>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D493E03.DFA3AE7E@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:56:19 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:
>
> Have any of you ever written to the
> president of the U. S.?
>
Not that it does an ounce of good, but I have written to GWB several
times, yes. There are plenty of good reasons not to have a war with
Saddam and I have enumerated them for him. You have even a more
important reason, as do the parents of 250,000 other kids who, they say,
would be needed for this stupid endeavor.

alyce


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:38 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12962
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11145
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00001764@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 8:19:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14205659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 08:19:39 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71CJdq21282 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:19:39 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws51-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.51]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g71CJY708854
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:19:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <001a01c23911$bfff44c0$360332d1@0018079268>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D492755.9233CCFE@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:19:33 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Doris Markland wrote:
>
> Have any of you ever written to the
> president of the U. S.?

I've written lots of letters to Congressmen through the years, but I
think the only mail I've sent to a President was birthday cards to
Bill.

>  He probably will never see it
> anyway.  But what the hell.  It's better than
> talking to the wall.

I'd say that it's very unlikely that he will see it personally, but
surely somebody there will.  And surely they keep tallies or whatever on
the opinions sent in letters.  Maybe my nephew will see it.  His job as
a Monica starts Monday.  He's moving to Washington this weekend.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:39 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12968
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11211
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00001CB2@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:39:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14223041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:39:11 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f89.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.89]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FTBC26707 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:29:11 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          1 Aug 2002 08:29:05 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01
          Aug 2002 15:29:05 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 15:29:05.0657 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[2BF7B690:01C23970]
Message-ID:  <F89Zd9fNrUePN6CAiko0001acdc@hotmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:29:05 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: No Finland
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alec:

> > (3?) that you have decided I owe you. I will not be able to
> > go to Methods
> > XI - a court case in a nearby state requires my attention the next two
> > weeks.
> > Bethany

>All that fucking talk about the trip and you are NOT going. I am
>horrified and upset. Waste of our time.

Worse, she spent so much time and energy obsessing over every
little detail of the trip. What a waste of her time.

-rashmi, the anti-Bethany
      credo: Never make detailed plans until you absolutely have to

PS I encountered plenty of Euro-swagger last week about the state
of the USD vis-a-vis the Euro. :-(

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:39 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12969
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11156
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000017CD@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 8:41:28 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14207131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 08:41:25 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71CfOq24895 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:41:24 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29785 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:41:23 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          08:41:23 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 08:41:23 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g71CfPq24896
Message-ID:  <3D48F42C.2356.33AEB2@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:41:16 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D492816.256EBB04@maynor.net>

> "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
> >  If they really want to hire me, however, they will make the
> > offer so specific that I am the only one who qualifies.
>
> And that is indeed what they should do!
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Thanks.  Frankly, the position, as listed, is very very close to that
already.  In many ways, I am not ready to make the jump (what to
do with my house for example) but the qualifications for this one so
perfectly matched my experience that I could not ignore it.
Incidentally, Steve was a wonderful resource in helping me tailor
the résumé.

BrP

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:41 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12975
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11177
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00001999@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:02:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14213258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 10:02:27 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71E2Rq06035 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:02:27 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00260 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:02:26 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          10:02:27 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 10:02:18 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D490728.25312.47611F@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:02:17 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D493E03.DFA3AE7E@valstar.net>

Actually, an ounce of good is probably just about what it does do.
Letters written to the pres are at least sorted and reported as a
statistic - and public opinion DOES matter to politicians.


BrP



> >
> Not that it does an ounce of good, but I have written to GWB several
> times, yes. There are plenty of good reasons not to have a war with
> Saddam and I have enumerated them for him. You have even a more
> important reason, as do the parents of 250,000 other kids who, they say,
> would be needed for this stupid endeavor.
>
> alyce
>
>
> --
> alyce cresap, books & ephemera
> po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
> 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
> http://www.alybooks.com
> charter member: IOBA
> independent on-line booksellers association
> selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:41 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12974
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11154
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000017AE@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 8:34:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14206664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 08:34:43 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71CYhq23572 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:34:43 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27839 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:34:41 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02
          08:34:42 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Aug 02 08:34:22 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D48F28A.7256.2D4DF2@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:34:18 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D48847B.C2098ABD@maynor.net>

We have a lot of early 19th c. maps in our collection and many of
them have little clock faces indicating the exact "local time" for
various cities - noon in Albany, 11:56 in Syracuse, 11:52 in Buffalo
(these aren't the real numbers, but you get the idea). It of course
makes perfect sense, but we are now so used to thinking of the
whole time zone as a unit that we have lost the sense of local
compromise to a standard time.

BrP




> Adam Hartfield wrote:
>
> > Oh. It's not dark here at 6:15 now.
>
> Here either.  When Karen said that, I was at first surprised, but then I
> realized that she lives near the other end of the time zone from me.  It
> makes sense that our daylight wouldn't be the same.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:59:42 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12979
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 08:59:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11214
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:28:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00001CB3@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:39:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14224162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:39:28 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71FdSC28985 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:39:28 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust41.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.43]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004354132@mx0.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 11:39:26 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801151301.44F5E8460@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49568D.7EC4D125@valstar.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:41:01 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:
> I'd like to see/hear Doris' and Alyce's letters.

Dear President Bush,

I am deeply concerned about your apparent plans to attack Iraq. I oppose
the your administration's plan to invade, conquer, and occupy Iraq.

Iraq will accept a resumption of UN weapons inspections if the US agrees
not to invade. But as far as I can see, you refuse to accept new weapons
inspections for reasons that are purely political:

Your poll ratings are falling quickly because of public outrage over
corporate corruption scandals and the
falling stock market. Do you need another war to change the news
headlines and boost the poll ratings?

I fear that this proposed war is really for oil. I am mindful of Senator
Bob Smith's (R-NH) remarks on April 12, 2002, when he told a large group
of Republicans: "Why don't we just take [Iraq's] oil? Why buy it? Take
it!"

Your weapons industry donors will profit from another war.  Among them
is James Baker, a major investor in the Carlyle Group, one of the
largest weapons manufacturers in the US.

While the United States is a great nation, I fear that we may be guilty
of hubris. We cannot rule the world, nor fight all of its injustices by
ourselves. The Gulf War cost $60 billion dollars. Much of that was paid
by Kuwait, Japan, and others. I am concerned that a new war on Iraq will
cost even more, and this time there will be no others to help to foot
the bill. And of course the cost is not in dollars alone, but in lives.
I have heard estimates of 250,000 troops being needed, and surely those
250,000 people would not escape the conflict without losses.

There are many other reasons to resist a war, but this letter already is
long. At a time when this country is just barely coming out of a
recession, it would be so much wiser to use our resources for the common
good, for peaceful solutions to international disputes, for health care,
education, housing, etc.

I urge you to think twice, three times, and more, before you engage us
in an Iraqi "adventure."

Sincerely,
alyce cresap

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 09:18:05 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13045
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 09:18:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00002465@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:48:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14249300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 16:48:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71Km2C14503 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:48:02 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EC6057F40; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 13:48:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801204801.EC6057F40@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:48:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Graphics security?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Can anyone recommend something for me to read about how to keep
graphics secure on the web? Something that doesn't cost money.:(

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 09:43:47 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13121
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 09:43:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000258B@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:13:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14252382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 17:13:44 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71LDiC18229 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:13:44 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g71LDhG25561
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:13:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D492816.256EBB04@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801091225.009fccb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49A697.7A568EA@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:22:31 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> >In many ways, I am not ready to make the jump (what to
> >do with my house for example)       --BrP
>
> A house is just a house.  Where Steve is, is home.

Lease your house.  Those SS taxes are going to cut into your pay, too.

Betty, who has been interviewing all morning for our new Computer
Resource Manager  (I'm part of one committee)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 09:51:22 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13135
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 09:51:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000025B2@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:21:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14252857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 17:21:20 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g71LLJC19130 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002
          17:21:20 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g71LLJ4142076 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002
          17:21:19 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEGDFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:19:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D49A697.7A568EA@uclink.berkeley.edu>

it's a pain to lease a house long distance. hard to manage.

Sch.

>
> bonniev wrote:
> >
> > >In many ways, I am not ready to make the jump (what to
> > >do with my house for example)       --BrP
> >
> > A house is just a house.  Where Steve is, is home.
>
> Lease your house.  Those SS taxes are going to cut into your pay, too.
>
> Betty, who has been interviewing all morning for our new Computer
> Resource Manager  (I'm part of one committee)
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 09:55:01 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13156
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 09:55:00 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000025C7@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:24:58 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14253137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 17:24:58 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71LOwC19640 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:24:58 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3FEE58459; Thu,  1
          Aug 2002 14:24:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020801212457.3FEE58459@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:24:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEGDFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Aug 1, 2002  2:19:35 pm"

S Hess said:
> it's a pain to lease a house long distance. hard to manage.

Property mgt company.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 10:56:45 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13209
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 10:56:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000026FC@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:26:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14256773 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 18:26:41 -0400
Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71MQfC26883 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:26:41 -0400
Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000006;
          1 Aug 02 18:26:12 -0400
Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 1 Aug 02
          18:26:05 -0400
Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32
          v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000005; 1 Aug 02 18:25:58 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
Message-ID:  <3D497D36.15043.591BF07@localhost>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:25:58 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tony Harminc <tony@HARMINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D486C1D.1E1E3ED7@maynor.net>

On Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 18:00, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> > whether they will consider a non-Canadian no matter how perfectly
> > qualified are questions yet to be answered.
>
> I don't know what the situation is now, but in 1970 non-Canadians
> weren't hired unless there was absolutely no Canadian remotely
> qualified for the position.

The FTA and NAFTA have changed things to some extent, but there are
still restrictions on both sides of the border. And of course the
immigration authorities generally see themselves as protectors of the
country rather than facilitators of Free Trade.

Tony H.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 11:20:31 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13259
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 11:20:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000274A@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:50:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14257778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 18:50:26 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71MoPC29555 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:50:25 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws59-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.59]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g71MoH729757
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:50:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49B9F1.C5CF88E3@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:45:05 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      What a Nice Daemon
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

This mailer-daemon sounds so much friendlier than most:

> Subjeect: failure notice
> Date: 1 Aug 2002 22:30:01 -0000
> From: MAILER-DAEMON@sleepy.wojomedia.com
> To: natalie@maynor.net

> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at sleepy.wojomedia.com.
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

> <undisclosed-recipients:;@maynor.net>:

> --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
*********

(I hate mail to "undisclosed-recipients" unless it's something like an
announcement that isn't expecting a reply.  This hs classmate of mine
seems to think it's <neat> to send mail to "undisclosed-recipients.")
But I do like Wojo's mailer-daemon.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 11:25:13 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13280
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 11:25:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00002755@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:55:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14257919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 18:55:08 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71Mt7C29889 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:55:07 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020801225501.GQUH19356.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:55:01 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020801152047.025fd840@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:49:30 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Graphics security?
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801204801.EC6057F40@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen Kay writes,

>Can anyone recommend something for me to read about how to keep
>graphics secure on the web? Something that doesn't cost money.:(

What kind of graphics, secure from what (hotlinking? theft?), and how secure?

For hotlinking, usually you check the Referrer header.  Works well except
for the few who can manipulate their outgoing HTTP headers.

For theft, you can use a proprietary format and a viewer app, or you can
watermark or fingerprint the images and then use a service to spider the
web looking for it.  None of these is a particularly good solution.

If/when we have "trusted computing" (meaning copyright holders can trust a
computer more than its user can) <http://www.trustedcomputing.org/>
<http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html>, you'll be able to have
secure graphics -- but you'll probably have to be a vassal of a big
publisher to do so.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 11:37:21 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13308
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 11:37:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0000279F@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:07:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14258636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 19:07:15 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71N7FC31185 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:07:15 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0600593TK26L@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:07:15 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020801192137.88488847C@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D49BEC0.3070609@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:05:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>        I just got back from the grocery store -- Lisa's innaugeral
>>run to pick out food she likes.  Homemade bread costs more
>>to make than storebought, so forget that (the yeast alone is
>>3/$1.19 and a loaf of bread is 99 cents).
>>
>
> A jar of yeast is a much better deal than the packets.
>


        That's true.

        Maybe I'll make bread tomorrow after I get my lungs x-rayed.
  Poor Lisa.  It was 103 today.  She's wilting :).




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 11:44:25 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13322
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 11:44:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000027B0@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:14:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14258848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 19:14:19 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71NEJC31640 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:14:19 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-58.panax.com
          [65.114.190.58]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g71NEKn31936 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:14:21
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020801134120.009ffd90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020801190955.00a11820@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:11:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D498848.8090309@swbell.net>

>        I just got back from the grocery store -- Lisa's innaugeral
>run to pick out food she likes.  Homemade bread costs more
>to make than storebought, so forget that (the yeast alone is
>3/$1.19 and a loaf of bread is 99 cents).     --Rita

But that strip of three yeast packets is enough to leaven six loaves of bread.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 11:44:26 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13326
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 11:44:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000027B1@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:14:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14258851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 19:14:21 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71NEKC31645 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:14:20 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-58.panax.com
          [65.114.190.58]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g71NEMn31940 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:14:22
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D492816.256EBB04@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801091225.009fccb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020801191153.00a0b3b0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:12:57 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D49A697.7A568EA@uclink.berkeley.edu>

>Betty, who has been interviewing all morning for our new Computer
>Resource Manager  (I'm part of one committee)

I was about to send out the Mounties to look for you when you didn't show
up to play Scrabble this morning and most of this afternoon.  I was so
relieved to see your email in my box until I realized you had made a
Scrabble move worth 80 points.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:01:51 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13351
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 12:01:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000027D8@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:31:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14259361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 19:31:45 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71NVjC00464 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:31:45 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g71NVhYF012181 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:31:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <20020801194428.CCDV24567.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020801163101.00aa5210@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:32:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801195124.7A10484C1@yellow.rahul.net>

At 12:51 PM 8/1/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Lisa Alfieri said:
> > >If the track is added post-production, what kind of
> > >performence is the production sans laughter?
> >
> > Probably very similar to what your rehersal's (assuming
> > there's not audience when  you reherse) are like.
>
>rehe*a*rse
>
>TYVM
>
>Karen

Why do you care so much if people spell everything correctly? Who gives a
rat's ass?  Is Oleander a good speller?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:06:02 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13355
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 12:06:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000027E0@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:35:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14259462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 19:35:56 -0400
Received: from mail.infochan.com (mail.infochan.com [208.52.68.123]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71NZsC00716 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:35:55 -0400
Received: from [169.254.143.149] ([208.138.22.79]) by mail.infochan.com
          (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with
          ESMTP id com for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:35:50
          -0500
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <B96F3007.105E2%peterlevy@email.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:35:51 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Levy <peterlevy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Canned Laughter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801190914.4BD708318@yellow.rahul.net>

On 1/8/2002 2:09 PM, Karen Kay wrote:

> Peter Levy said:
>> There was a show called 'Sports Night' which ran for one season a couple or
>> three years ago. Created by Aaron Sorkin who also did West Wing. It had no
>> laugh track, but Comedy Central added one when they aired it last year. It
>> sounded really weird. And dumb.
>
> I loved that show. It wasn't funny enough for a laugh track.

I did too. It was one of those that seems too good for broadcast TV. And the
laugh track didn't enhance it, that's for sure.

--
Cheers,
Peter

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:11:16 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13363
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 12:11:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000027EE@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:41:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14259602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 19:41:06 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71Nf6C01036 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:41:06 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws228-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.228]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g71Nf3712752
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:41:03 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D492816.256EBB04@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801091225.009fccb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49C6DF.1282C5A8@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:40:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:
>
> >In many ways, I am not ready to make the jump (what to
> >do with my house for example)       --BrP
>
> A house is just a house.  Where Steve is, is home.

Well-said, Bonniemae.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:13:27 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13370
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 12:13:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000027F3@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:43:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14259658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 19:43:20 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71NhKC01201 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:43:20 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws228-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.228]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g71NhH713262
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:43:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801010144.93D128329@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D488CF9.E580D45D@maynor.net> <3D49367D.4A3D5360@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49C794.E6C192C6@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:43:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: What a Mad Wasp
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

> So who would know? You think there are between-boob bug specialists?

Hmm.  I should consult the yellow pages again.  I had looked under the
c's for cleavage, not under the b's for between-boobs.  Actually, I need
to go to my dermatologist in Columbus sometime in the not-so-distant
future to check on how many more skin cancers I have.  I bet he's more
into between-boob bugs than my GP is.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:15:30 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13382
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 12:15:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000027FC@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:45:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14259746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 19:45:24 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71NjNC01351 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:45:23 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g71NjMYF009387 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:45:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D49A697.7A568EA@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020801164528.00aa11a0@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:45:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEGDFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

Have someone else manage it.

Betty

At 02:19 PM 8/1/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>it's a pain to lease a house long distance. hard to manage.
>
>Sch.
>
> >
> > bonniev wrote:
> > >
> > > >In many ways, I am not ready to make the jump (what to
> > > >do with my house for example)       --BrP
> > >
> > > A house is just a house.  Where Steve is, is home.
> >
> > Lease your house.  Those SS taxes are going to cut into your pay, too.
> >
> > Betty, who has been interviewing all morning for our new Computer
> > Resource Manager  (I'm part of one committee)
> >

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:17:34 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13393
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 12:17:34 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00002805@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:47:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14259842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 19:47:28 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71NlRC01572 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:47:27 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g71NlQYF010285 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:47:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <3D49A697.7A568EA@uclink.berkeley.edu>
            <3D492816.256EBB04@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801091225.009fccb0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020801164729.00aa8a80@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:47:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020801191153.00a0b3b0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

At 07:12 PM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>Betty, who has been interviewing all morning for our new Computer
>>Resource Manager  (I'm part of one committee)
>
>I was about to send out the Mounties to look for you when you didn't show
>up to play Scrabble this morning and most of this afternoon.  I was so
>relieved to see your email in my box until I realized you had made a
>Scrabble move worth 80 points.

Ah, but I've fallen way behind with all these vowels.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:19:21 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13397
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 12:19:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000280C@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:49:14 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14259918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 19:49:14 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71NnEC01678 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:49:14 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0600LM7VI14J@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:49:14 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020801134120.009ffd90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801190955.00a11820@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID:  <3D49C898.4010305@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:47:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

>>        I just got back from the grocery store -- Lisa's innaugeral
>> run to pick out food she likes.  Homemade bread costs more
>> to make than storebought, so forget that (the yeast alone is
>> 3/$1.19 and a loaf of bread is 99 cents).     --Rita
>
>
> But that strip of three yeast packets is enough to leaven six loaves of
> bread.


        Yabbut homemade bread is usually about half the size of
store-bought.  Maybe 1/3 the size of those big sandwich
bread loaves.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:21:11 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13401
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 12:21:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000280F@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:51:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14259952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 19:51:04 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71Np4C01776 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:51:04 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws228-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.228]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g71Np2715291
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:51:02 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801151851.NYFH22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49C964.922DE8FC@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:51:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lisa Alfieri wrote:
>
> Whether I go out to eat or cook at home, I find it's more
> expensive to eat healthy than it is to eat crap.
>
> Take for instance lunch. Yesterday I bought sushi and a
> Balance Bar for lunch. This costs $8.55. For $6-7 I could
> have gotten an eggplant sub (large enough for lunch and
> dinner), a small bag of chips and a soda.

I don't get this at all.  An eggplant sub sounds more healthful to me
than sushi and a Balance Bar.  But it wouldn't occur to me to add
chips.  Re the soda, is that in contrast with drinking nothing with the
sushi and Balance Bar?  If so, why not drink nothing with the eggplant
sub.

> Eating in can add up as well. Fish, a staple of my
> healthy eating habits, gets expensive. So does buying WOW
> chips for snacks. They're nearly twice the cost of
> regular chips.

ROFL.  Not at the fish part.  At the WOW part.  I don't really think
that's the kind of thing we were talking about re eating healthfully --
but maybe that's what everybody else was indeed talking about -- so I
should change that "we" -- it's not the kind of thing I had in mind.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:25:26 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13420
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 12:25:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018CD0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:55:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14260079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 19:55:20 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71NtJC02082 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:55:19 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws228-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.228]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g71NtH716314
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:55:17 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801152325.DE011868E@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49CA64.140C42B7@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:55:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Is an eggplant sub inherently unhealthy? Can't you take the eggplant
> out of the bread and eat it?

??  What's wrong with bread?  I thought it was <the staff of life>.

> But WOW chips are still junkfood in a way that nuts, for example, are
> not.

As I think I said in my last posting, I don't know what WOW chips are,
but the name screams JUNKFOOD to me.  Nuts are expensive, though.  I'm
not sure that if I were working out the ideal low-cost nutrition I would
necessarily include many nuts.

> I buy fish on sale and freeze it.

I buy only frozen fish because I don't like catfish, which is the only
fish I would trust fresh here.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:28:46 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13427
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 12:28:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00002823@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:58:39 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14260176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 19:58:39 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71NwdC02331 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:58:39 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws228-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.228]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g71Nwb717154
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:58:37 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801151301.44F5E8460@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D49568D.7EC4D125@valstar.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49CB2B.2CD69E0B@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:58:35 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

alyce cresap wrote:

[to Dubya]

Do you think Dubya even knows the word "hubris"?

Although I agree with the points in your letter, I have the feeling it's
going to end up in the statistical column of "letters from <not our
kind>."

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:32:36 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13440
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 12:32:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000282E@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:02:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14260366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 20:02:30 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7202TC02956 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:02:29 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0600LU1W44CN@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 01 Aug 2002 19:02:29 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020801152325.DE011868E@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D49CA64.140C42B7@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D49CBB2.5070808@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:00:50 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:


> As I think I said in my last posting, I don't know what WOW chips are,
> but the name screams JUNKFOOD to me.  Nuts are expensive, though.  I'm
> not sure that if I were working out the ideal low-cost nutrition I would
> necessarily include many nuts.


One can survive a long time on peanutbutter sandwiches.
Actually, aside from grilled cheese, a pbj is my favorite
sandwich.  Nuts are expensive.


>
>>I buy fish on sale and freeze it.
>>
>
> I buy only frozen fish because I don't like catfish, which is the only
> fish I would trust fresh here.


        I buy almost no fish because I don't trust any of it to be
any good here.  They've done little exposes on the news that
show the fish at even the expensive markets is usually
several weeks old -- GAG.  I don't like catfish, either.
I've been thinking I should maybe get some fish oil
supplements.  After all, my body grew up on lots and lots of
fish... it must feel poor or deprived to go without it.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:40:40 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13470
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 12:40:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000284A@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:10:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14260701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 20:10:33 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g720AXC03620 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:10:33 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws247-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.247]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g720AP720135
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:10:26 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801172051.UHWB22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49CDBE.80E9F662@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:09:34 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Lisa Alfieri wrote:

> Eggplant made properly (my opinion of course) is dipped
> in egg, coated w/ bread crumbs, fried and laid to rest in
> a pan with sauce and cheese.

Hmm.  When I was talking about the eggplant sub's sounding healthful, I
didn't have this kind of thing in mind.  I would say that the above
doesn't sound very healthful.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:45:56 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13486
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 12:45:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018CE2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:15:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14260821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 20:15:49 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g720FnC03930 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:15:49 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws247-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.247]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g720Fi721407
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:15:45 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801192137.88488847C@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D49BEC0.3070609@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49CF2F.290E21CF@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:15:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

>         Maybe I'll make bread tomorrow after I get my lungs x-rayed.
>   Poor Lisa.  It was 103 today.  She's wilting :).

I hate that I'm about to go nomail and won't get to hear about Lisa's
early experiences.  Where in Germany is she from?  When does school
start?  You mentioned last night something about Kara's graduation
picture, and later I was thinking back on that posting and was surprised
since I think of exchange students as usually being junior year rather
than senior year.

Or am I getting all of this mixed up?  My brain isn't working very well
because it's been up to capacity in thinking of all the stuff I needed
to do/stock/etc re Mama before my departure tomorrow.  I *think* I've
got it all under control now.  All I have to do tomorrow is drop the
dogs at Furrbabies and go on to the airport.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:49:16 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13490
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 12:49:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0000285B@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:19:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14260880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 20:19:09 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g720J9C04088 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:19:09 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws247-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.247]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g720J7722258
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:19:07 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020801134120.009ffd90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801190955.00a11820@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D49C898.4010305@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49CFFA.14E24CA@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:19:06 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

>         Yabbut homemade bread is usually about half the size of
> store-bought.  Maybe 1/3 the size of those big sandwich
> bread loaves.

This is why I should make bread more often.  I hate that sto-bought
bread in the USA is in such huge loaves.  I prefer it fresh but always
have to refrigerate or freeze most of it since there's no way I can use
that much fast enough.  I loved the little loaves in grocery stores in
Japan.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:52:03 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13502
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 12:52:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00002860@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:21:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14260945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 20:21:56 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g720LuC04218 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:21:56 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws247-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.247]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g720Lr723049
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:21:54 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801152325.DE011868E@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D49CA64.140C42B7@maynor.net> <3D49CBB2.5070808@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49D0A0.C9E42B31@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:21:52 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> One can survive a long time on peanutbutter sandwiches.

I think I've mentioned before an acquaintance in my early days here who
ate nothing but peanut butter -- as in always and only.  It went back to
when he had his tonsils out in early childhood and could eat only pnut
butter afterwards.  That continued, and he grew up to an adult who could
eat nothing else.  It kept him out of the military.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:53:42 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13510
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 12:53:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00002867@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:23:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14261069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 20:23:33 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g720NXC04585 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:23:33 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H06005XFX388D@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 01 Aug 2002 19:23:33 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020801192137.88488847C@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D49BEC0.3070609@swbell.net> <3D49CF2F.290E21CF@maynor.net>
Message-ID:  <3D49D0A2.9000906@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:21:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
>
>
>>        Maybe I'll make bread tomorrow after I get my lungs x-rayed.
>>  Poor Lisa.  It was 103 today.  She's wilting :).
>>
>
> I hate that I'm about to go nomail and won't get to hear about Lisa's
> early experiences.  Where in Germany is she from?  When does school
> start?  You mentioned last night something about Kara's graduation
> picture, and later I was thinking back on that posting and was surprised
> since I think of exchange students as usually being junior year rather
> than senior year.


She's from a village near Stuttgardt (sp?).  School starts
for all of us on Aug. 26.  I think all schools do it
differently, but McCluer North calls them all seniors and
they go through all the fun senior year stuff.  So, Karo got
to graduate, etc.

Lisa arrived with WAY more stuff than any of the other kids.
  She's completely filled up her closet and all the space in
the medicine cabinet already.  It's fun!  She has good taste
in Birkenstocks... showed up with a new pair of Floridas.



> Or am I getting all of this mixed up?  My brain isn't working very well
> because it's been up to capacity in thinking of all the stuff I needed
> to do/stock/etc re Mama before my departure tomorrow.  I *think* I've
> got it all under control now.  All I have to do tomorrow is drop the
> dogs at Furrbabies and go on to the airport.
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 13:02:15 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13524
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 13:02:15 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00002880@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:32:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14261370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 20:32:08 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g720W8C05323 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:32:08 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws87-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.87]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g720W3725519
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:32:05 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020801134120.009ffd90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49D2D4.E53839F4@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:31:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

bonniev wrote:

> I haven't done any grocery shopping for almost ten years now.  So this is a
> sincere question:  Would not a healthy diet be something like pasta with
> fresh veggies, Jiffy corn bread mix, breakfast cereal, fresh fruit,
> calcium-fortified fruit juice, home-baked whole wheat bread, low fat
> cheese, spicy white bean casserole, tuna salad (made with fresh greens,
> some veggies, a small can of tuna, and a few nuts)?   Etc. Etc.   I have a
> feeling that the ingredients for all those foods are really quite a bit
> cheaper than any highly processed and packaged stuff like lunch meat and TV
> dinners.

That's way <fancier> than is necessary for good nutrition.  And re cost,
most cereal is ridiculously expensive -- though not as expensive as some
of what I consider junk food.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 13:10:11 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13537
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 13:10:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00002891@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:40:04 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14261587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 20:40:04 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g720e3C05942 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:40:03 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws87-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.87]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g720e1727848
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:40:01 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D494DC3.18488.191AD92@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49D4E0.3555B902@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:40:00 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:

> No, the question was how do actors who do not have the feedback
> of real live laughter tailor their performances to what is really funny.

What is really funny or what a particular audience finds really funny?
I'm sure I told the story of my experience at a Beth Henly play in NYC
several years ago.  It was a small theatre, mainly subsription-only
people, meaning that it was mainly New Yorkers, as opposed to the
audiences at Broadway plays.  The play ("The Impossible Marriage") was
hilarious, but these NYers just didn't get it.  They were stone quiet at
the most hilarious lines.  After it was over, I heard some of them
saying that it was a waste of money -- that the characters were totally
unrealistic, etc. etc.  I found it well worth my money.  And I found the
characters very much like people I'd known my whole life.  (As I think
I've mentioned before, Beth Henley lived around the corner from me in
her childhood.)  Iow, "what is really funny" isn't universal.  But an
interesting question is what should the actors and director do?  Should
they change their style to suit the usual audiences for their run just
because the usual audiences <don't get it>?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 13:11:54 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13544
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 13:11:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00002898@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:41:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14261645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 20:41:47 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g720fkC06035 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:41:46 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws87-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.87]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g720fi728279
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:41:44 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801202205.7ADE9809C@yellow.rahul.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49D547.10245B72@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:41:43 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> I've always wondered about those poor Brown actors. How many lives did
> I traumatize?

As I'm pretty sure we reported, they sure remembered you a week later.
Or at least the door people did.  They asked us where our friend was who
laughed so loud.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 13:13:01 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13548
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 13:13:01 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018CFAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:42:54 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14261387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 20:42:13 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g720WDC05338 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:32:13 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5701D6468 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,  1 Aug 2002 19:32:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g720W8Z52872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:32:08
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <F211U4A1ENkRm6RtZsa0001ae13@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020801193208.A52815@pobox.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:32:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F211U4A1ENkRm6RtZsa0001ae13@hotmail.com>; from
              rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM on Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 07:08:01PM +0000

On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 07:08:01PM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote:
> Tushar:
>
> >discovered daguerreotypes bear this out. I am on the list so I may,
> >by the modest powers of flaming bestowed upon me, rescue as many
> >lost souls as I could out of the morass of boboism, geekism,
> >thinkerism, aesthete-ism, contentism, cutesism, wussism, bytchism,
> >NPRism, Atlanticism and overall lamism.
>
> You left out my pet peeve: boomerism.

There is no such thing. "Rita Chapman" invented it and keeps
yammering about it but that doesn't make it real.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 13:16:28 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13557
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 13:16:28 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018CFE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:46:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14261795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 20:46:20 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g720kJC06459 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:46:19 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws87-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.87]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g720kH729484
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:46:17 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <20020801192137.88488847C@yellow.rahul.net>
            <3D49BEC0.3070609@swbell.net> <3D49CF2F.290E21CF@maynor.net>
            <3D49D0A2.9000906@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49D657.B4D7BA7A@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:46:15 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:

> She's from a village near Stuttgardt (sp?).  School starts
> for all of us on Aug. 26.

It's good that you've got lots of time before school starts.  Aug. 26
would be way, way late around here, especially for high school.  They
start a couple of weeks before MSU, and MSU classes start Aug. 19.

> I think all schools do it
> differently, but McCluer North calls them all seniors and
> they go through all the fun senior year stuff.  So, Karo got
> to graduate, etc.

"Them all" being the exchange students?

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 13:18:33 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13561
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 13:18:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000028A7@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:48:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14261522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 20:48:25 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g720cPC05754 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:38:25 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g720cOsp007333 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:38:24 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0208012036230.27441-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:38:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D49D2D4.E53839F4@maynor.net>

>> sincere question:  Would not a healthy diet be something like pasta with
>> fresh veggies, Jiffy corn bread mix, breakfast cereal, fresh fruit,
>> calcium-fortified fruit juice, home-baked whole wheat bread, low fat
>> cheese, spicy white bean casserole, tuna salad (made with fresh greens,
>> some veggies, a small can of tuna, and a few nuts)?   Etc. Etc.   I have a

I'd leave off the jiffy corn bread mix. And instead of cold cereals, I'd
use REAL (i.e., NOT instant) oatmeal - it is not expensive.

>That's way <fancier> than is necessary for good nutrition.  And re cost,

I see nothing <fancy> about pasta and fresh veg, etc.

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 14:14:31 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13601
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 14:14:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018D362@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:44:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14263948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 21:44:22 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g721iLC12174 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:44:21 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws138-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.138]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g721iJ713621
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:44:20 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D49E3F2.49165009@maynor.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:44:18 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Bye
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I'm about to set nomail.  Will be home late night of Aug. 13 but
probably won't set mail until the 15th.  That's going to be a crazy
week.

DSAI.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 14:18:50 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13613
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 14:18:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00002947@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:48:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14264045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 21:48:41 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g721mfC12511 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:48:41 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g721meK20993 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:48:40
          -0500 (CDT)
References: <001a01c23911$bfff44c0$360332d1@0018079268> 
            <3D493E03.DFA3AE7E@valstar.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <009a01c239c6$f84e8b00$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:50:21 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Doris Markland wrote:
> >
> > Have any of you ever written to the
> > president of the U. S.?
> >
> Not that it does an ounce of good, but I have written to GWB several
> times, yes. There are plenty of good reasons not to have a war with
> Saddam and I have enumerated them for him. You have even a more
> important reason, as do the parents of 250,000 other kids who, they
say,
> would be needed for this stupid endeavor.
>
> alyce


And that was not even among the reasons I gave
him in my letter.

            - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 14:24:39 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13625
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 14:24:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00002959@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:54:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14264240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 21:54:29 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g721sTC13158 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:54:29 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g721sSK29328 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:54:28
          -0500 (CDT)
References: <20020801151301.44F5E8460@yellow.rahul.net> 
            <3D49568D.7EC4D125@valstar.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <00d401c239c7$c8076c40$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:56:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> Karen Kay wrote:
> > I'd like to see/hear Doris' and Alyce's letters.

Alyce's letter is good.  Mine includes
some of the same points.  I didn't keep
a copy so don't remember what else
I said.  It was probably not an outstanding
effort, but rather capturing the thoughts I
was having that day.  I think every day I
could write a different letter.

            - D. M.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 14:56:06 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13674
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 14:56:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000029DD@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:25:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14266620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 22:25:56 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g722PuC18771 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:25:56 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020802022550.ZPHV22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 02:25:50 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D49D2D4.E53839F4@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020801191419.02378140@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:21:46 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0208012036230.27441-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu >

The USDA Center for Nutrition Policy and Promotion has a 76-page booklet
entitled, "Recipes and Tips for Healthy, Thrifty Meals"
(<http://www.usda.gov/cnpp/> and scroll down; available via PDF download or
from the GPO).

Here's one of two sample food lists for one week's sustenance for four
people (the tips elsewhere in the book include strategies for buying on
sale and in bulk when appropriate; these amounts aren't always the amount
to buy at once):

FRUITS AND VEGETABLES

Fresh: Apples (6 small), 1 lb 8 oz / Bananas (11 medium), 2 lb 12 oz /
Melon 1 lb / Oranges (26 small), 5 lb 7 oz / Cabbage 4 oz / Carrots 1 lb 4
oz / Celery 3 oz / Green pepper 3 oz / Lettuce, leaf 4 oz / Onions 2 lb 8
oz / Potatoes 11 lb 14 oz / Zucchini 7 oz

Canned: Applesauce 2 oz / Peaches 1 lb 10 oz / Pears 13 oz / Green beans 12
oz / Spinach 10 oz / Tomato paste 6 oz / Tomato sauce 1 lb 1 oz / Tomato
soup 10.5 oz

Frozen: Orange juice, concentrate (8) 12-oz cans / Green beans 5 oz / Peas 5 oz

BREADS, CEREALS, AND OTHER GRAIN PRODUCTS

Bagels, plain, enriched (8) 1 lb / Bread crumbs 2 oz / Bread, white,
enriched 2.2 lb / English muffins 8 / Bread, French, enriched 8 oz /
Hamburger buns, enriched 8 / Crackers, snack, low salt 4 oz / Oatmeal,
quick, rolled oats 3 oz / Ready-to-eat cereal (flakes) 6 oz / Barley, pearl
4 oz / Flour, enriched l lb 8 oz / Macaroni, enriched 1 lb 11 oz / Noodles,
yolk-free, enriched 2 lb 3 oz / Rice, enriched 2 lb 5 oz

MILK AND CHEESE

Evaporated milk, 16 fl oz / Milk, 1% lowfat 2-1/2 gal / Milk, whole 3 qt /
Cheese, cheddar 8 oz

MEAT AND MEAT ALTERNATES

Beef chuck roast 2.5 lb / Beef, ground, lean 2.4 lb / Chicken, fryer 1.5 lb
/ Fish, Breaded portions, frozen 1 lb / Cod, frozen 1 lb / Tuna fish,
chunk-style, water-pack 12 oz / Turkey breast 2 lb 4 oz / Turkey, ground 2
lb / Turkey ham (deli) 11 oz / Beans, kidney, canned 1 lb 11 oz / Beans,
lima, dry 6 oz / Beans, northern, canned 9 oz / Beans, garbanzo
(chickpeas), canned 10 oz / Eggs, large 15

FATS AND OILS

Margarine, stick 7 oz / Shortening 2 oz / Salad dressing, mayonnaise-type 1
lb / Vegetable oil 9 fl oz

SUGARS AND SWEETS

Sugar, brown 2 oz / Sugar, granulated 1 lb / Chocolate pudding, instant 3
oz / Lemonade (ready-to-drink) 1 gal

OTHER FOOD ITEMS

(Small amounts are used in preparing the recipes and other foods in the
menu, purchase as needed.)

Baking powder / Baking soda / Beef bouillon cubes / Black pepper, red
pepper / Catsup / Chicken bouillon cubes / Chili powder / Cinnamon /
Cornstarch / Cumin / Dry mustard / Gelatin, unflavored / Lemon juice,
bottled / Onion powder / Oregano / Paprika / Parsley flakes / Salt / Soy
sauce, reduced sodium / Sweet pickle relish / Vanilla / Vinegar

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 15:12:59 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13700
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 15:12:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00002A01@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:42:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14267049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 22:42:47 -0400
Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g722glC20092 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:42:47 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0700BF33JAB6@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Thu, 01 Aug 2002 21:42:46 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D49D2D4.E53839F4@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801191419.02378140@mail.istori.com>
Message-ID:  <3D49F143.1030807@swbell.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:41:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

That sample menu made me tired just thinking about making
all that food and cleaning up afterwards.

The tone reminded me a little of M.F.K. Fisher's cookbook
for WWII rationing (which she later retracted some of the
recipes from with a "what was I thinking" statement in
another book).  One of her favorite recipes in that book, as
I recall, is a number of soups that call for a cup of cream
and a cup of butter as the base.  Cream and butter were
perhaps cheaper back then, but I imagine with some oysters
or clams thrown in and some salt and pepper, that's a
to-die-for recipe.

Peter Kaminski wrote:

> The USDA Center for Nutrition Policy and Promotion has a 76-page booklet
> entitled, "Recipes and Tips for Healthy, Thrifty Meals"
> (<http://www.usda.gov/cnpp/> and scroll down; available via PDF download or
> from the GPO).
>
> Here's one of two sample food lists for one week's sustenance for four
> people (the tips elsewhere in the book include strategies for buying on
> sale and in bulk when appropriate; these amounts aren't always the amount
> to buy at once):
>
> FRUITS AND VEGETABLES
>
> Fresh: Apples (6 small), 1 lb 8 oz / Bananas (11 medium), 2 lb 12 oz /
> Melon 1 lb / Oranges (26 small), 5 lb 7 oz / Cabbage 4 oz / Carrots 1 lb 4
> oz / Celery 3 oz / Green pepper 3 oz / Lettuce, leaf 4 oz / Onions 2 lb 8
> oz / Potatoes 11 lb 14 oz / Zucchini 7 oz
>
> Canned: Applesauce 2 oz / Peaches 1 lb 10 oz / Pears 13 oz / Green beans 12
> oz / Spinach 10 oz / Tomato paste 6 oz / Tomato sauce 1 lb 1 oz / Tomato
> soup 10.5 oz
>
> Frozen: Orange juice, concentrate (8) 12-oz cans / Green beans 5 oz /
> Peas 5 oz
>
> BREADS, CEREALS, AND OTHER GRAIN PRODUCTS
>
> Bagels, plain, enriched (8) 1 lb / Bread crumbs 2 oz / Bread, white,
> enriched 2.2 lb / English muffins 8 / Bread, French, enriched 8 oz /
> Hamburger buns, enriched 8 / Crackers, snack, low salt 4 oz / Oatmeal,
> quick, rolled oats 3 oz / Ready-to-eat cereal (flakes) 6 oz / Barley, pearl
> 4 oz / Flour, enriched l lb 8 oz / Macaroni, enriched 1 lb 11 oz / Noodles,
> yolk-free, enriched 2 lb 3 oz / Rice, enriched 2 lb 5 oz
>
> MILK AND CHEESE
>
> Evaporated milk, 16 fl oz / Milk, 1% lowfat 2-1/2 gal / Milk, whole 3 qt /
> Cheese, cheddar 8 oz
>
> MEAT AND MEAT ALTERNATES
>
> Beef chuck roast 2.5 lb / Beef, ground, lean 2.4 lb / Chicken, fryer 1.5 lb
> / Fish, Breaded portions, frozen 1 lb / Cod, frozen 1 lb / Tuna fish,
> chunk-style, water-pack 12 oz / Turkey breast 2 lb 4 oz / Turkey, ground 2
> lb / Turkey ham (deli) 11 oz / Beans, kidney, canned 1 lb 11 oz / Beans,
> lima, dry 6 oz / Beans, northern, canned 9 oz / Beans, garbanzo
> (chickpeas), canned 10 oz / Eggs, large 15
>
> FATS AND OILS
>
> Margarine, stick 7 oz / Shortening 2 oz / Salad dressing, mayonnaise-type 1
> lb / Vegetable oil 9 fl oz
>
> SUGARS AND SWEETS
>
> Sugar, brown 2 oz / Sugar, granulated 1 lb / Chocolate pudding, instant 3
> oz / Lemonade (ready-to-drink) 1 gal
>
> OTHER FOOD ITEMS
>
> (Small amounts are used in preparing the recipes and other foods in the
> menu, purchase as needed.)
>
> Baking powder / Baking soda / Beef bouillon cubes / Black pepper, red
> pepper / Catsup / Chicken bouillon cubes / Chili powder / Cinnamon /
> Cornstarch / Cumin / Dry mustard / Gelatin, unflavored / Lemon juice,
> bottled / Onion powder / Oregano / Paprika / Parsley flakes / Salt / Soy
> sauce, reduced sodium / Sweet pickle relish / Vanilla / Vinegar
>
> Pete
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 15:33:41 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13741
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 15:33:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018D984@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:03:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14267777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 23:03:28 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f218.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.218]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g722rSC21566 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:53:28 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          1 Aug 2002 19:53:22 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02
          Aug 2002 02:53:22 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 02:53:22.0496 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[C3C02C00:01C239CF]
Message-ID:  <F218xHuVHnqXpXmDfHR0001b346@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 02:53:22 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Alyce's letter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I wouldn't call that a good letter, Alyce. Haphazard
and unconvincing. The same arguments about "what
next" were made about Afghanistan and here we have
dapper Hamid Karzai.

My problem with the Iraq effort is that it ignores the
real culprit - Saudi Arabia and its support and export
of Wahabism. But the Saudi regime and Bush family/cronies
are tight, doubt we'll see any action on that front.

And then there's the Mubarak regime - what a waste of ten
years. With friends like these ...

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 15:39:53 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13745
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 15:39:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018DAE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:09:42 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14272801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 23:09:42 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7239gC25262 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:09:42 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g7239b918656 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:09:37 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0208012203520.18269-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:09:36 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Question
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D49CB2B.2CD69E0B@maynor.net>

On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Although I agree with the points in your letter, I have the feeling it's
> going to end up in the statistical column of "letters from <not our
> kind>."

I wonder how these letters get coded.  I'm thinking the first category is
by zip code or congressional district; then there's just a two-way cut,
pro or anti whatever, and letters giving reasons don't count any more than
a curt message DO THIS or DON'T DO THAT etc.

I figure if I send George Bush a No Strike letter from my address, it
doesn't mean shit.  Marin County?  Hooo Hah we won the election without
YOU thankyouverymuch go write yer senator, Jerk Lady.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 16:11:09 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13784
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 16:11:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00002CBF@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:40:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14274065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 23:40:56 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f256.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.134]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g723UuC28301 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:30:56 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          1 Aug 2002 20:30:50 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02
          Aug 2002 03:30:50 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 03:30:50.0797 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[FFD7ADD0:01C239D4]
Message-ID:  <F256H1UC72X6iD1Zy8R0001b269@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 03:30:50 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Tushar:

> > You left out my pet peeve: boomerism.

>There is no such thing. "Rita Chapman" invented it and keeps
>yammering about it but that doesn't make it real.

Oh, it's real, believe me. Boomerism was annoying waaay before
Rita mentioned it on the list. Before boboism became such a
hot topic, even.

-rashmi


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 16:13:17 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13795
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 16:13:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00002CC6@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:43:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14274472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 1 Aug
          2002 23:43:05 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g723h5C29574 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:43:05 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA11542
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Thu, 1 Aug 2002
          20:43:04 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A9B1097005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Thu,  1 Aug 2002 20:43:03 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 11536 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 03:43:03 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 03:43:03 -0000
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130303b96fa3464c5a@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:42:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Namibia2004
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F127pxNuDfb6THOBhuE00016762@hotmail.com>

>Namibia is totally different from anywhere else
>in Africa and I've had a great two weeks there.
>I'm not normally a big fan of organised trips,
>but I wouldn't have seen half the things I did
>if I'd tried to tackle this vast, magical
>country on my own. If you're coming to Namibia
>I would certainly recommend taking one of these
>tours - just make sure you've got Julia as your guide.

If this isn't boomerism at it's worst I don't know what is.

Ken Miller
Paul Fussel School of Classic Studies

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 16:49:54 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13860
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 16:49:53 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00002DFE@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 0:19:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14277274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 00:19:41 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (f91.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.91]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7249fC32650 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:09:41 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu,
          1 Aug 2002 21:09:35 -0700
Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02
          Aug 2002 04:09:35 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 04:09:35.0687 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[6995BD70:01C239DA]
Message-ID:  <F91Can7pg4ApyzIqnQg0001b153@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 04:09:35 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Namibia2004
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> >Namibia is totally different from anywhere else
> >in Africa and I've had a great two weeks there.
> >I'm not normally a big fan of organised trips,
> >but I wouldn't have seen half the things I did
> >if I'd tried to tackle this vast, magical
> >country on my own. If you're coming to Namibia
> >I would certainly recommend taking one of these
> >tours - just make sure you've got Julia as your guide.

>If this isn't boomerism at it's worst I don't know what is.

Easy. NPR is boomerism at its worst.

-rashmi

_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 17:16:15 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13930
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 17:16:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00002E39@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 0:46:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14278494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 00:46:01 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g724k1C03264 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          00:46:01 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-201-231-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.201.231.133]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with
          SMTP id g724k04163226 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          00:46:00 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEGOFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:44:13 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020801163101.00aa5210@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> Why do you care so much if people spell everything correctly? Who gives a
> rat's ass?  Is Oleander a good speller?
>
> Betty

Good spelling is a turn-on.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 18:01:00 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14013
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 18:00:59 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00002EDE@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 1:30:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14280104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 01:30:45 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g725KjC06759 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 01:20:45 -0400
Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBF85DD6 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri,  2 Aug 2002 00:20:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id
          g725Ki067077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:20:44
          -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <F127pxNuDfb6THOBhuE00016762@hotmail.com>
            <v03130303b96fa3464c5a@[198.144.202.197]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020802002044.A65747@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:20:44 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Namibia2004
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <v03130303b96fa3464c5a@[198.144.202.197]>; from
              bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM on Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 08:42:57PM -0700

On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 08:42:57PM -0700, Bookrat wrote:
> >Namibia is totally different from anywhere else
> >in Africa and I've had a great two weeks there.
> >I'm not normally a big fan of organised trips,
> >but I wouldn't have seen half the things I did
> >if I'd tried to tackle this vast, magical
> >country on my own. If you're coming to Namibia
> >I would certainly recommend taking one of these
> >tours - just make sure you've got Julia as your guide.
>
> If this isn't boomerism at it's worst I don't know what is.

A very good call, Ken Miller. For a flame of an actual travel account
from a few years ago, consult <http://samant.com/prose/tourist.html>.

The real question is: how can one go about "seeing" a place, area or
culture without being exactly like these lamerz?

The only way I can think of is to go with a highly specific purpose,
like the traveller Hsuan Tsang ...

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:17:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14144
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 19:17:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018E703@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 2:47:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14283482 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 02:47:19 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g726lIC14729 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 02:47:18 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4PTB>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:47:17 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4PTA; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:47:15 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D48847B.C2098ABD@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020802084518.033994d8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:47:10 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: One unanticipated effect
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D48F28A.7256.2D4DF2@localhost>

08:34 01.08.2002 -0400 skrev Paul R. Barfoot:
>We have a lot of early 19th c. maps in our collection and many of
>them have little clock faces indicating the exact "local time" for
>various cities - noon in Albany, 11:56 in Syracuse, 11:52 in Buffalo
>(these aren't the real numbers, but you get the idea). It of course
>makes perfect sense, but we are now so used to thinking of the
>whole time zone as a unit that we have lost the sense of local
>compromise to a standard time.
>
>BrP
>
>
>
>
> > Adam Hartfield wrote:
> >
> > > Oh. It's not dark here at 6:15 now.
> >
> > Here either.  When Karen said that, I was at first surprised, but then I
> > realized that she lives near the other end of the time zone from me.  It
> > makes sense that our daylight wouldn't be the same.

I felt this difference clearly when going between Oslo and Bergen. They are
5 degrees apart and that translates into 20 minutes. The bell at Christ
Church in Oxford (Old Tom or whatever) strikes it hour in the evening 6
minutes after London/Greenwich.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:20:46 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14152
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 19:20:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00002FE0@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 2:50:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14283490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 02:50:30 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g726oTC14883 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 02:50:29 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4PTP>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:50:28 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4PT3; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:50:20 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <3D492816.256EBB04@maynor.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020802084813.03375fe0@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:50:15 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: a step
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D48F42C.2356.33AEB2@localhost>

08:41 01.08.2002 -0400 skrev Paul R. Barfoot:
> > "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote:
> > >  If they really want to hire me, however, they will make the
> > > offer so specific that I am the only one who qualifies.
> >
> > And that is indeed what they should do!
> >
> > --
> >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
>Thanks.  Frankly, the position, as listed, is very very close to that
>already.  In many ways, I am not ready to make the jump (what to
>do with my house for example) but the qualifications for this one so
>perfectly matched my experience that I could not ignore it.
>Incidentally, Steve was a wonderful resource in helping me tailor
>the résumé.

My job in Oslo was advertised so that I should fit. And I sold my house (or
half of a house) last year. There is a difference between moving within
countries and between places in one country, but there are people in Norway
who claim that Bergen is a country of its own ...

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:41:21 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14187
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 19:41:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00003008@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 3:11:03 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14283957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 03:11:03 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g727B3C16701 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 03:11:03 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5C91B82BD; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 00:11:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020802071102.5C91B82BD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:11:02 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D49BEC0.3070609@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Aug 1,
              2002  6: 5:36 pm"

Rita Chapman said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > A jar of yeast is a much better deal than the packets.
>
>         That's true.
>
>         Maybe I'll make bread tomorrow after I get my lungs x-rayed.

Hope they are clear. Make sure you get the right kind of yeast.
Fernando and I made a recipe tonight that required cake yeast and all
I had was bread machine yeast, and he got very upset.

>   Poor Lisa.  It was 103 today.  She's wilting :).

I'd be wilting, too.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:43:24 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14197
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 19:43:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018E7E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 3:13:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14284017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 03:13:07 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g727D7C16873 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 03:13:07 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 78C2B82BD; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 00:13:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020802071306.78C2B82BD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:13:06 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020801163101.00aa5210@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Aug 1, 2002  4:32: 8 pm"

Betty said:
> At 12:51 PM 8/1/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Lisa Alfieri said:
> > > >If the track is added post-production, what kind of
> > > >performence is the production sans laughter?
> > >
> > > Probably very similar to what your rehersal's (assuming
> > > there's not audience when  you reherse) are like.
> >
> >rehe*a*rse
> >
> >TYVM
> >
> >Karen
>
> Why do you care so much if people spell everything correctly? Who gives a
> rat's ass?

This one bugged me--but Alyce will back me up.

> Is Fernando a good speller?

Yes.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:45:36 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14206
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 19:45:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00003012@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 3:15:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14284055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 03:15:19 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g727FJC17022 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 03:15:19 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5E07E825B; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 00:15:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020802071518.5E07E825B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:15:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D49CA64.140C42B7@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Aug 1,
              2002  6:55:16 pm"

Natalie Maynor said:
> Karen Kay wrote:
> > Is an eggplant sub inherently unhealthy? Can't you take the eggplant
> > out of the bread and eat it?
>
> ??  What's wrong with bread?  I thought it was <the staff of life>.

For some. Not for me.

> > But WOW chips are still junkfood in a way that nuts, for example, are
> > not.
>
> As I think I said in my last posting, I don't know what WOW chips are,
> but the name screams JUNKFOOD to me.  Nuts are expensive, though.  I'm
> not sure that if I were working out the ideal low-cost nutrition I would
> necessarily include many nuts.

Costco. Nuts go a long way.

> I buy only frozen fish because I don't like catfish, which is the only
> fish I would trust fresh here.

I like eel.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:53:02 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14219
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 19:53:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00003018@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 3:22:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14284119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 03:22:45 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g727MiC17519 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 03:22:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 158638439; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 00:22:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020802072244.158638439@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:22:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: too many questions
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEGOFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Aug 1, 2002  9:44:13 pm"

S Hess said:
> > Why do you care so much if people spell everything correctly? Who gives a
> > rat's ass?  Is Oleander a good speller?
> >
> > Betty
>
> Good spelling is a turn-on.

I'd say more that bad spelling is a turn off.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:54:58 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14234
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 19:54:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018E845@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 3:24:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14284207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 03:24:41 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g727OeC17826 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 03:24:40 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4PW1>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:24:39 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4PWD; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:24:32 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020801134120.009ffd90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801190955.00a11820@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D49C898.4010305@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020802092223.03393c88@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:24:27 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D49CFFA.14E24CA@maynor.net>

19:19 01.08.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor:
>Rita Chapman wrote:
>
> >         Yabbut homemade bread is usually about half the size of
> > store-bought.  Maybe 1/3 the size of those big sandwich
> > bread loaves.
>
>This is why I should make bread more often.  I hate that sto-bought
>bread in the USA is in such huge loaves.  I prefer it fresh but always
>have to refrigerate or freeze most of it since there's no way I can use
>that much fast enough.  I loved the little loaves in grocery stores in
>Japan.

We usually bake our own: three loaves. one is eaten fresh and the two
others are frozen. Our home made bread freezes well: store bought bread has
a tendency to break, or the crust breaks off when it is frozen (this as
about standard store bought bread in Norway, YMMV.)

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:04:29 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14253
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 20:04:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00003036@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 3:34:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14284555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 03:34:12 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g727YBC19085 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 03:34:11 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 001867E24; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 00:34:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020802073410.001867E24@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:34:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      My new favorite movie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Das Boot, the director's cut. Nearly 4 hours of movie, but it was
really good. Fernando brought it over tonight and we watched the whole
thing in one sitting. (Well, I watched, he slept.) But it was still
really, really good. Very intense, and very sad.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:50:08 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14307
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 20:50:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000306F@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 4:19:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14285268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 04:19:49 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g728JmC22848 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 04:19:48 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g728Qm307360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:26:48
          +0200
References: <20020802073410.001867E24@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020802102648.A7279@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:26:48 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: My new favorite movie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802073410.001867E24@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 12:34:10AM -0700

= Fernando

You know, every time you call him this, I can only hear ABBA.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 23:12:40 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA14770
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 23:12:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00003169@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 6:42:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14288001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 06:42:17 -0400
Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72AgHC31843 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 06:42:17 -0400
Received: from maynor.net (ws61-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.61]); by
          Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id g72AgE700229
          for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 05:42:14 -0500 (CDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4A6204.DFA1CE74@maynor.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 05:42:12 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Subject:      Eek
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Too late to add anything to the suitcase now, but the high Wednesday is
forecast to be 57F.  I'm gonna freeze.
--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 23:16:39 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA14785
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Sun, 26 Jun 1960 23:16:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018EFE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 6:46:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14288020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 06:46:16 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72AkGC32027 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 06:46:16 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4QBS>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:46:14 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4QBR; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:46:02 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020802124427.0339b830@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:45:58 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      Re: Eek
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4A6204.DFA1CE74@maynor.net>

05:42 02.08.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor:
>Too late to add anything to the suitcase now, but the high Wednesday is
>forecast to be 57F.  I'm gonna freeze.

Have a nice trip. The temperature here is supposed to be around 18C in the
day so it might be much less at 4AM when we get up for a week from Sunday.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 00:47:57 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14932
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 00:47:56 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018F3D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 8:17:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14290465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 08:17:33 -0400
Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk
          (IDENT:mirapoint@msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72CHWC20698 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:17:32 -0400
Received: from localhost ([213.78.125.252]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk
          (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AIZ18554; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:18:02 +0100
          (BST)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482)
Message-ID:  <C97E4A0E-A611-11D6-B861-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:17:17 +0100
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Roy Jaques <rjaques@ONETEL.NET.UK>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801172756.A5658@yoccoz.multinix.com>

On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 04:27 , steph wrote:

>  bonniev wrote:
>> Friar Jaques.
>
> good thing roy doesn't troll on his name

No but i saw it anyway.
>
>
Mr Jaques

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 00:48:36 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14939
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 00:48:35 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000322B@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 8:18:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14290514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 08:18:11 -0400
Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk
          (IDENT:mirapoint@msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72CIBC20807 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:18:11 -0400
Received: from localhost ([213.78.125.252]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk
          (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AIZ17325; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:13:40 +0100
          (BST)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482)
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id
                      g72CIBC20809
Message-ID:  <32A22C75-A611-11D6-B861-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:13:04 +0100
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Roy Jaques <rjaques@ONETEL.NET.UK>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020731225610.00a1a770@pop3.norton.antivirus>

On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 03:57 , bonniev wrote:

>> I guess maybe you have to have had a French childhood to know Asteri,
>> Babar, and Tintin. What about Madeline?
>> http://www.duke.edu/~icheese/madeline.html
>> Karen
>
> Didn't know Madeline either.   The only French I remember as a child is
> that song about Friar Jaques.  You sing it in turn like you would Row,
> row,
> your boat.
>
>    --bonniev
>

Frère Jacques isn't one of my relations

Roy

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 00:49:40 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14943
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 00:49:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00003231@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 8:19:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14290586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 08:19:16 -0400
Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk
          (IDENT:mirapoint@msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72CJ8C20931 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:19:08 -0400
Received: from localhost ([213.78.125.252]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk
          (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AJF15764; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:18:38 +0100
          (BST)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482)
Message-ID:  <0563347C-A612-11D6-B861-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:18:58 +0100
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Roy Jaques <rjaques@ONETEL.NET.UK>
Subject:      Re: Oostende WLM
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801153339.6D9328EDB@yellow.rahul.net>

On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 04:33 , Karen Kay wrote:

> Paul R. Barfoot said:
>> It's actually Brother James, n'est ce pas?
>
> Huh?
>
> Hm. I just looked this up.
>
>> The English version of
>> the song says Brother John and I always wondered why it was
>> translated that way.  Is it because the sound of John fits better
>> than the sound of James?
>
> I always thought Jacques>Jack>John. Am I pig-ignorant?

Do you really want to know ?
>
> Karen
>
Roy

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 00:53:32 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14947
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 00:53:32 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00003247@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 8:23:07 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14290823 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 08:23:08 -0400
Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72CN7C21428 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:23:07 -0400
Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
          <39RT4QHB>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:23:06 +0200
Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by
          victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
          Version 5.5.2653.13) id 39RT4QHA; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:22:59 +0200
X-no-archive: yes
X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0207312145570.20180-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <5.1.1.6.0.20020801115849.0333fab0@victoria.nb.no>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020802142233.033992f8@victoria.nb.no>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:22:54 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Espen Ore <Espen.Ore@NB.NO>
Subject:      More DSAI
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4927ED.DAEA611B@maynor.net>

I am going no-mail until August 12.

Espen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 02:00:39 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15014
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 02:00:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19929
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:30:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000033A3@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 9:27:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14295977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 09:27:13 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72DRCc11638 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:27:13 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H07007R9XDCXE@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 02 Aug 2002 08:27:12 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <F256H1UC72X6iD1Zy8R0001b269@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:  <3D4A884C.8020708@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:25:32 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rashmi Murthy wrote:

> Tushar:
>
>> > You left out my pet peeve: boomerism.
>
>
>> There is no such thing. "Rita Chapman" invented it and keeps
>> yammering about it but that doesn't make it real.
>
>
> Oh, it's real, believe me. Boomerism was annoying waaay before
> Rita mentioned it on the list. Before boboism became such a
> hot topic, even.
>


        Rashmi are firmly united on this issue.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 02:00:40 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15017
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 02:00:39 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19922
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:29:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000339F@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 9:26:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14295915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 09:26:20 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72DQKc02016 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:26:20 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H0700726XBVR6@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 02 Aug 2002 08:26:19 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <20020802071102.5C91B82BD@yellow.rahul.net>
Message-ID:  <3D4A8817.6060708@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:24:39 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Karen Kay wrote:

> Rita Chapman said:
>
>>Karen Kay wrote:
>>
>>>A jar of yeast is a much better deal than the packets.
>>>
>>        That's true.
>>
>>        Maybe I'll make bread tomorrow after I get my lungs x-rayed.
>>
>
> Hope they are clear. Make sure you get the right kind of yeast.
> Fernando and I made a recipe tonight that required cake yeast and all
> I had was bread machine yeast, and he got very upset.



If they're not, I won't be going back to school on the 26th
:).  You can convert the amount of dried yeast for cake
yeast, but I'm not sure about bread machine yeast.  In any
case, I prefer the dried yeast because it keeps longer.
I've never noticed much difference in quality between it and
cake yeast.

--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 02:00:41 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15020
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 02:00:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19875
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:27:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000338C@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 9:24:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14295607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 09:24:10 -0400
Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72DOAc01171 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:24:10 -0400
Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.57.203]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet
          Messaging Server 5.1 (built May  7 2001)) with ESMTP id
          <0H07007ZZX89Y5@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
          Fri, 02 Aug 2002 08:24:09 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en, el
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4)
            Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1
References: <3D49CFFA.14E24CA@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801134120.009ffd90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801190955.00a11820@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D49C898.4010305@swbell.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020802084100.00b45c68@mail.panax.com>
Message-ID:  <3D4A8795.2020107@swbell.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:22:29 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET>
Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc.
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

clyde w. voigtlander wrote:

> At 09:24 AM 8/2/2002 +0200, espen wrote:
>
>> We usually bake our own: three loaves. one is eaten fresh and the two
>> others are frozen. Our home made bread freezes well...
>
>
> My favorite recipe yields two loaves, one of which goes into the
> freezer.  About the only store-bought bread product that I freeze is
> hamburger or hot-dog buns/rolls.
>


        I consider any bread that's been frozen inedible.  Blech.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita



From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 02:00:42 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15023
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 02:00:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19779
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:13:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00003342@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 9:10:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14294514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 09:10:34 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72DAXC30599 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:10:33 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-20.panax.com
          [65.114.190.20]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g72DAZn31412 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:10:35
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D49CFFA.14E24CA@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801134120.009ffd90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801190955.00a11820@pop3.norton.antivirus>
            <3D49C898.4010305@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020802084100.00b45c68@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:44:31 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.1.6.0.20020802092223.03393c88@victoria.nb.no>

At 09:24 AM 8/2/2002 +0200, espen wrote:

>We usually bake our own: three loaves. one is eaten fresh and the two
>others are frozen. Our home made bread freezes well...

My favorite recipe yields two loaves, one of which goes into the
freezer.  About the only store-bought bread product that I freeze is
hamburger or hot-dog buns/rolls.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 02:00:44 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15028
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 02:00:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19329
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:43:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000032A5@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 8:40:21 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14292095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 08:40:21 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72CeLC24790 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:40:21 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-20.panax.com
          [65.114.190.20]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g72CeMn26329 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:40:22
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D49BEC0.3070609@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020802083131.00b3a120@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:40:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      yeast
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802071102.5C91B82BD@yellow.rahul.net>

At 12:11 AM 8/2/2002 -0700, karen wrote:

>... Make sure you get the right kind of yeast.
>Fernando and I made a recipe tonight that required cake yeast and all
>I had was bread machine yeast, and he got very upset.


I wonder what the difference (other than moistness) is.  I'd guess that
bread-machine yeast is a super-fast rising variety.   In Tuscany, Giancarlo
used a cake yeast that he called "beer yeast."  The cakes were larger than
those sold here.  When I returned home, I tried using cake yeast instead of
the dry (instant) yeast---correcting for the amount in the recipe.  I
couldn't discern a difference in either the rate or magnitude of rising or
in the texture or taste of the final product.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 02:03:40 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15035
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 02:03:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19960
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:34:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000033C5@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 9:31:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14296495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 09:31:36 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72DVZc17011 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:31:36 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust220.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.222]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005691038@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 09:31:35 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D49D2D4.E53839F4@maynor.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020801191419.02378140@mail.istori.com>
            <3D49F143.1030807@swbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4A8A3F.359FB638@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:33:51 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rita Chapman wrote:
> Cream and butter were
> perhaps cheaper back then,

Cream was cheaper because it came on top of the bottle of milk and you
did not have to buy it separately in its own packaging. Butter was not
available (or very seldom) during WW II.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 02:03:41 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15038
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 02:03:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19953
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:33:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018FA71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 9:30:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14296429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 09:30:15 -0400
Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72DUFc16813 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:30:15 -0400
Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-054.inetnebr.com
          [209.50.3.54]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id
          g72DUEK09446 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:30:14
          -0500 (CDT)
References:  <1657024544.1028154208@LAPLAND>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID:  <000c01c23a28$fa53e460$360332d1@0018079268>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:31:58 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Doris Markland <dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Coffee pot question - WAEFATL
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Can't help you, but for fun I looked on
eBay and was amazed at how many
coffee percolators were for sale, some
used but many new (though vintage).

                    - D. M.

> Since I like things that work and last, I have been using my
> Mother-in-law's percolator pot for years.  The basket which holds the
> grinds has decided to fall apart.  I'm trying to find a replacement
which
> might be a futile task. (Insert canned laughter)
>
> It is a Coffeematic made by Universal.  The names Landers, Frary &
Clark
> appear on it.  I've had no luck with web searches and wonder if anyone
has
> any pointers.  I actually found the pot and all which I should
probably
> grab.
>
> If this is a futile rabbit chase, does anyone have any suggestions on
> reliable brands?
>
> Terry
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 02:05:39 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15045
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 02:05:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19999
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:37:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018FAC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 9:34:38 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14296713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 09:34:39 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72DYcc17624 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:34:39 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust220.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.222]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005691097@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 09:34:37 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F218xHuVHnqXpXmDfHR0001b346@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4A8AF6.DC15589C@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:36:54 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Alyce's letter
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Rashmi Murthy wrote:
>
> I wouldn't call that a good letter, Alyce. Haphazard

My thoughts are many and perhaps haphazard. Had I sat down to write a
rough draft and then rewritten it, perhaps it would have pleased all
Wordslers more. But I didn't. I just dashed it off.

I didn't even get to the big question of who will take over the
government in the letter. That was in my post to you later.

alyce


--
alyce cresap, books & ephemera
po box 20, germantown, ny 12526
518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net
http://www.alybooks.com
charter member: IOBA
independent on-line booksellers association
selling books since 1963

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 03:14:54 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16150
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 03:14:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000035CF@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:44:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14303774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 10:44:19 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72EiI403278 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:44:19 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3458A7E34; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 07:44:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020802144418.3458A7E34@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:44:18 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My new favorite movie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802102648.A7279@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Aug 2,
              2002 10:26:48 am"

steph said:
> = Fernando
>
> You know, every time you call him this, I can only hear ABBA.

Me, too.:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 03:25:15 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16554
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 03:25:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000360A@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:54:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14304514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 10:54:46 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72Esj405077 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:54:45 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g72F1l208103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:01:47
          +0200
References: <20020802102648.A7279@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020802144418.3458A7E34@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020802170146.A8100@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:01:46 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: My new favorite movie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802144418.3458A7E34@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 07:44:18AM -0700

On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 07:44:18AM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
= steph said:
= > = Fernando
= >
= > You know, every time you call him this, I can only hear ABBA.
=
= Me, too.:)

And you like this incessant earworm?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 03:32:06 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16579
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 03:32:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001904AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:01:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14305226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:01:37 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72F1a406501 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:01:37 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0B9007F36; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 08:01:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020802150135.0B9007F36@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:01:35 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: yeast
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020802083131.00b3a120@mail.panax.com> from "clyde
              w. voigtlander" at "Aug 2, 2002  8:40:16 am"

clyde w. voigtlander said:
> I wonder what the difference (other than moistness) is.  I'd guess that
> bread-machine yeast is a super-fast rising variety.

You are Very Smart.:) Yes, bread machine yeast is super-fast rising.
The chief problem with it, though, was that the recipe didn't call for
anything to feed the yeast. I ended up making a separate batch of
yeast and fed it with some sugar et voila, it grew all over the
place. He tells me that cake yeast works really well without feeding.
Btw, I characterized him as very upset, but really, all he did was
frown and whine a little; he's very even-tempered and never blames.

This was a spontaneous cooking adventure--we decided to make this very
complicated recipe on the spur of the moment, because I had most of
the ingredients. The recipe was in a language I know very little of,
so it was tough going for me. But we were definitely pleased with the
results--we had firsts and seconds, all within about 15 minutes.

> In Tuscany, Giancarlo
> used a cake yeast that he called "beer yeast."  The cakes were larger than
> those sold here.  When I returned home, I tried using cake yeast instead of
> the dry (instant) yeast---correcting for the amount in the recipe.  I
> couldn't discern a difference in either the rate or magnitude of rising or
> in the texture or taste of the final product.

I think the difference was just in what it needed to rise.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 03:32:50 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16583
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 03:32:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00003646@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:02:22 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14305280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:02:22 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72F2L406662 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:02:21 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E638A811F; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 08:02:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020802150220.E638A811F@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:02:20 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4A884C.8020708@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Aug 2,
              2002  8:25:32 am"

Rita Chapman said:
>         Rashmi are firmly united on this issue.

Is this a Britishism?:)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 03:33:55 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16587
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 03:33:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00003653@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:03:26 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14305457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:03:26 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72F3P406981 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:03:25 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 26ED184FA; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 08:03:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020802150325.26ED184FA@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:03:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My new favorite movie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802170146.A8100@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Aug 2,
              2002  5: 1:46 pm"

steph said:
> On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 07:44:18AM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> = steph said:
> = > = Fernando
> = >
> = > You know, every time you call him this, I can only hear ABBA.
> =
> = Me, too.:)
>
> And you like this incessant earworm?

No, but I don't mind giving it. I can go back to calling him *er*
again, but Some People made rude nicknames, and I don't think that's
fair.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 03:34:25 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16591
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 03:34:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00003656@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:03:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14305501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:03:57 -0400
Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72F3u407099 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:03:56 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id
          c.198.ac298bf (16335) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          11:03:48 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <198.ac298bf.2a7bf953@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:03:47 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Eek
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 08/02/2002 5:42:18 AM Central Daylight Time,
natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes:

<<
Too late to add anything to the suitcase now, but the high Wednesday is
forecast to be 57F.
>>

Right now I would settle for that.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 03:36:36 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16595
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 03:36:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00003661@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:06:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14305652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:06:07 -0400
Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72F67407483 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:06:07 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id
          c.18b.bc29794 (16335) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          11:05:58 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <18b.bc29794.2a7bf9d5@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:05:57 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: My new favorite movie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 08/02/2002 3:19:59 AM Central Daylight Time,
stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes:

<<
You know, every time you call him this, I can only hear ABBA.
>>

I wasn't going to mention that, but I do like the song.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 03:46:13 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16631
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 03:46:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000036AD@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:15:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14306567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:15:44 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72FFh409536 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:15:44 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g72FFge16259 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:15:42 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0208021014340.16088-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:15:42 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Namibia2004
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802002044.A65747@pobox.com>

On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:

> The real question is: how can one go about "seeing" a place, area or
> culture without being exactly like these lamerz?
>
> The only way I can think of is to go with a highly specific purpose,
> like the traveller Hsuan Tsang ...

You could also go with no purpose except to be there for quite a long
while.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 03:55:46 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16658
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 03:55:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000036DB@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:25:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14307208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:25:17 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72FPF411254 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:25:16 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g72FPEq16721 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:25:14 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0208021023370.16088-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:25:14 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4A8A3F.359FB638@valstar.net>

On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
> > Cream and butter were
> > perhaps cheaper back then,
>
> Cream was cheaper because it came on top of the bottle of milk and you
> did not have to buy it separately in its own packaging. Butter was not
> available (or very seldom) during WW II.

Except that you could make it from the cream.

Ann

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 03:59:14 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16665
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 03:59:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000036EE@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:28:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14307389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:28:45 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72FSi411823 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:28:45 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g72FSil20635
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:28:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <F127pxNuDfb6THOBhuE00016762@hotmail.com>
            <v03130303b96fa3464c5a@[198.144.202.197]>
            <20020802002044.A65747@pobox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4AA741.9D9EE9C5@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:37:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Namibia2004
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Hey, Bonnie, they have B&B's.

http://www.NamibWeb.com/mainbed.html

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 04:00:48 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16679
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 04:00:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000036F7@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:30:19 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14307496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:30:19 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72FUI412227 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:30:18 -0400
Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-20.panax.com
          [65.114.190.20]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g72FUKn23623 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:30:20
          -0400
X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D4A884C.8020708@swbell.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020802112941.00b62d00@mail.panax.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:30:14 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802150220.E638A811F@yellow.rahul.net>

At 08:02 AM 8/2/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
>Rita Chapman said:
> >         Rashmi are firmly united on this issue.
>
>Is this a Britishism?:)

I suspect that it am.

cwv

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 04:04:26 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16683
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 04:04:25 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000370E@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:33:56 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14307801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:33:56 -0400
Received: from og1.olagrande.net (og1.olagrande.net [63.98.209.2]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72FXu412928 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:33:56 -0400
Received: from localhost (aborkin@localhost) by og1.olagrande.net
          (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g72FXsH17053 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:33:54 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0208021030490.16970-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:33:54 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Ann Borkin <aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <200208020400.g7240kS21785@og1.olagrande.net>

On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, it was written:
> Dear Ola Grande Users,
> Ola Grande Networks, Inc. has been in business for close
> to two years.  That time has been interesting, but unfortunately
> unprofitable.  I can no longer sustain the financial losses.
>
> I regret to inform you that Ola Grande will end operations on
> August 31, 2002. In an attempt to avoid an interruption in your
> email service, I have been negotiating with other ISPs to adopt
> the olagrande.net domain.
>
> I have been working for the past few months to find a suitable
> match.  I am are very close to finalizing arrangements with a
> comparable ISP.

What do you think, wordspeople?  My first take is that "a comparable ISP"
is likely to fold too.

I don't want attbi.  And I want to keep on using Pine, telnetting in from
home or work.

Any suggestions?

Ann





  This would mean that current olagrande.net users
> will be able to transfer their existing accounts if they wish to
> do so.  You will still be able to receive email addressed to
> your @olagrande.net address.  I hope to be able to announce
> the details soon.
>
> If anyone has any suggestions or feedback, the newsgroup
> olagrande.general would be an ideal place for that type
> of discussion.
>
> I'm working to make the transition process as easy and painless
> as possible.  The new ISP offers the same or similar services at
> similar prices.  If you have a credit balance with Ola Grande, there
> will be multiple options available (including a refund of the unused
> portion if you wish).
>
> Once the agreement is finalized, I will transfer the olagrande.net
> domain to the new ISP.  Your email will then be forwarded via
> the new ISP at that time.  Details are forthcoming.
>
> Please monitor the newsgroup olagrande.general to keep up to date.
>
> I have enjoyed providing you with Internet Service for the last
> two years, and regret to see this relationship come to an end.
>
> Best of luck to all of you.
>
>
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 04:04:45 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16690
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 04:04:44 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00003710@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:34:15 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14307821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:34:15 -0400
Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72FYF412991 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:34:15 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust127.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.129]) by
          mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0005693204@mx1.inoc.net> for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:34:15 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0208021023370.16088-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4AA6FE.8E8255A1@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:36:30 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Ann Borkin wrote:
>
> Except that you could make it from the cream.

Oh, right. I forgot about the old church. Must get it down from the
attic and dust it up a bit.

alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 04:05:25 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16694
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 04:05:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00003714@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:34:55 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14307863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:34:55 -0400
Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72FYt413085 for
          <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:34:55 -0400
Received: from valstar.net (cust127.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.129]) by
          mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id
          <B0004377730@mx0.inoc.net> for <words-l@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:34:55 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD}  (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4AA726.204F9506@valstar.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:37:10 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: alyce cresap <alybooks@VALSTAR.NET>
Organization: http://www.alybooks.com
Subject:      Church = churn
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

brain-o
--
alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 04:06:05 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16698
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 04:06:05 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00003717@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:35:36 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14307910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:35:36 -0400
Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72FZa413223 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:35:36 -0400
Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) (authenticated
          bits=0) by pobox.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id
          g72FZZq4270755 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          11:35:35 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <000401c23a3a$3f575f40$48305b80@EAGLE72>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:35:36 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Alec D. Plotkin" <plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0208021030490.16970-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ann Borkin
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 11:34 AM
> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
>
>
> On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, it was written:
> > Dear Ola Grande Users,
> > Ola Grande Networks, Inc. has been in business for close
> > to two years.  That time has been interesting, but unfortunately
> > unprofitable.  I can no longer sustain the financial losses.
> >
> > I regret to inform you that Ola Grande will end operations on
> > August 31, 2002. In an attempt to avoid an interruption in your
> > email service, I have been negotiating with other ISPs to adopt
> > the olagrande.net domain.
> >
> > I have been working for the past few months to find a suitable
> > match.  I am are very close to finalizing arrangements with a
> > comparable ISP.
>
> What do you think, wordspeople?  My first take is that "a
> comparable ISP"
> is likely to fold too.
>
> I don't want attbi.  And I want to keep on using Pine,
> telnetting in from
> home or work.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Ann
>
>
>
Pete is Mr. Internet in your part of the world. Ask him.

alec

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 04:08:11 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16702
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 04:08:10 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00003735@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:37:41 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14308327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:37:41 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72Fbf414193 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:37:41 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23907 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:37:16 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 2 Aug 02
          11:37:17 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 2 Aug 02 11:37:10 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D4A6EE3.16603.CFF1F3@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:37:07 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Church = churn
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4AA726.204F9506@valstar.net>

Damn! and I was this [holding two fingers a half inch apart] close to
making a smart-ass comment.

BrP



> brain-o
> --
> alyce

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 04:09:04 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16706
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 04:09:02 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000373A@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:38:32 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14308421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:38:33 -0400
Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (imo-r09.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.105]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72FcW414458 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:38:33 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id
          c.168.11866d58 (16335) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:38:24 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <168.11866d58.2a7c0170@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:38:24 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 08/02/2002 10:25:33 AM Central Daylight Time,
aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET writes:

<<
On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, alyce cresap wrote:

> Rita Chapman wrote:
> > Cream and butter were
> > perhaps cheaper back then,
>
> Cream was cheaper because it came on top of the bottle of milk and you
> did not have to buy it separately in its own packaging. Butter was not
> available (or very seldom) during WW II.

Except that you could make it from the cream.


>>

That's what my Grandma did; she had her own cows, milked them,
separated the milk from the cream, and used the cream to make
butter.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 04:15:30 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16733
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 04:15:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00190988@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:44:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14308811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:44:57 -0400
Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu
          (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72Fiv415517 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:44:57 -0400
Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu
          (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27076 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>;
          Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:44:56 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 2 Aug 02
          11:44:56 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 2 Aug 02 11:44:50 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
Message-ID:  <3D4A70AA.18183.D6E54C@localhost>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:44:42 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Paul R. Barfoot" <prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University Library
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <168.11866d58.2a7c0170@aol.com>

I remember when I was in first grade our teacher brought in cream
and a jar that we all took turns shaking to make the butter.  I also
remeber being highly skeptical that there could be any relationship
between these two substances.  It just didn't seem <logical>.

BrP






> Except that you could make it from the cream.
>
>
> >>
>
> That's what my Grandma did; she had her own cows, milked them,
> separated the milk from the cream, and used the cream to make
> butter.
>
> Evelyn Duncan
> brandykitt@aol.com
>
> I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 04:22:03 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16737
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 04:22:03 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000377C@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:51:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14309244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:51:33 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72FpX416659 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:51:33 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-50.panax.com [63.163.41.50])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72FpZn27230 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:51:35 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <F127pxNuDfb6THOBhuE00016762@hotmail.com>
            <v03130303b96fa3464c5a@[198.144.202.197]>
            <20020802002044.A65747@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020802115047.00a15300@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:51:24 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Namibia2004
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4AA741.9D9EE9C5@uclink.berkeley.edu>

>Hey, Bonnie, they have B&B's.
>http://www.NamibWeb.com/mainbed.html

Valhalla B & B has a nice ring to it.  Maybe I could get a job there.  I
don't think I could take the desert heat.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 04:29:42 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16746
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 04:29:41 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.000037A3@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:59:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14309812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 11:59:11 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72FxB417979 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:59:11 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020802155905.SJXH19356.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:59:06 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0208021030490.16970-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020802083941.02560980@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:52:38 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <000401c23a3a$3f575f40$48305b80@EAGLE72>

Alec D. Plotkin writes,

>Pete is Mr. Internet in your part of the world. Ask him.

:)

I'd recommend you look at tdl.com, Ann.  They're the folks I moved the
NanoSpace ISP customers over to when we transitioned out of the consumer
ISP business.  I picked them because they know what they're doing, and
because I thought they'd be in business a long time.  It's a small company,
run by someone who likes what he's doing, who's making a reasonable profit,
and has no designs on getting rich quick from the business, so he's
unlikely to burn out.

If it were me, I'd also get my own domain name to have a fixed email
address under my control -- but YMMV.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 04:37:31 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16760
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 04:37:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000037CC@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:07:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14310386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 12:07:01 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72G71419381 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:07:01 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A59F97E8E; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 09:06:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020802160659.A59F97E8E@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:06:59 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020802083941.02560980@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Aug 2, 2002  8:52:38 am"

Peter Kaminski said:
> Alec D. Plotkin writes,
>
> >Pete is Mr. Internet in your part of the world. Ask him.
>
> :)
>
> I'd recommend you look at tdl.com, Ann.  They're the folks I moved the
> NanoSpace ISP customers over to when we transitioned out of the consumer
> ISP business.  I picked them because they know what they're doing, and
> because I thought they'd be in business a long time.  It's a small company,
> run by someone who likes what he's doing, who's making a reasonable profit,
> and has no designs on getting rich quick from the business, so he's
> unlikely to burn out.
>
> If it were me, I'd also get my own domain name to have a fixed email
> address under my control -- but YMMV.

I'd also recommend rahul.net--that's where I've been for several
years. Fernando laughs at me because I'm still on Pacific time, but
hey. If it ain't broke, why break it? I feel that his rates are
reasonable--and it's one guy, mostly. So you know where he is and
where he lives. And he responds.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 04:47:57 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16780
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 04:47:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000037FE@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:17:27 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14310445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 12:17:27 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72G7R419509 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:07:27 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365E271B8 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri,  2 Aug 2002 11:07:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (scribble@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by
          shell-3.enteract.com (8.12.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g72G7Rco046441 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:07:27 -0500 (CDT)
          (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com
          (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g72G7Qmr046439 for
          WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:07:26 -0500 (CDT)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020802002044.A65747@pobox.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0208021014340.16088-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020802110726.B37195@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:07:26 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Namibia2004
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0208021014340.16088-100000@og1.olagrande.net>;
              from aborkin@OLAGRANDE.NET on Fri, Aug 02,
              2002 at 10:15:42AM -0500

On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 10:15:42AM -0500, Ann Borkin wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:
>
> > The real question is: how can one go about "seeing" a place, area or
> > culture without being exactly like these lamerz?
> >
> > The only way I can think of is to go with a highly specific purpose,
> > like the traveller Hsuan Tsang ...
>
> You could also go with no purpose except to be there for quite a long
> while.

Maybe

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 04:59:53 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16834
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 04:59:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00003836@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:29:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14311118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 12:29:20 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72GJK421249 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:19:20 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80916FDD for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri,  2 Aug 2002 11:19:19 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (scribble@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by
          shell-3.enteract.com (8.12.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g72GJJco055683 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:19:19 -0500 (CDT)
          (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com
          (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g72GJJEa055682 for
          WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:19:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <3D4A884C.8020708@swbell.net>
            <20020802150220.E638A811F@yellow.rahul.net>
            <5.1.0.14.0.20020802112941.00b62d00@mail.panax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020802111919.C37195@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:19:19 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Asterix
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020802112941.00b62d00@mail.panax.com>; from
              cwv@PANAX.COM on Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 11:30:14AM -0400

On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 11:30:14AM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> At 08:02 AM 8/2/2002 -0700, karen wrote:
> >Rita Chapman said:
>
> > >         Rashmi are firmly united on this issue.
> >
> >Is this a Britishism?:)
>
> I suspect that it am.

I guess these are horrible flames, according to BoomerScum...

Anyway, I hardly said that "boomerism" was not an affront to thinking
people of all ages. My point was that there is no well-defined thing
as "boomerism". That is why I tried to list several primitive isms
which are associated with boomerism, to make a modest start from the
analytic P.O.V. But what response do I get? A rowdy bunch of Chapmans
and Rashmis clamorously yelling "You forgot Boomerism!"

Fill the blanks in the following exclamation: F--g-!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 05:02:41 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16850
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 05:02:40 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00003841@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:32:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14311290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 12:32:10 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72GM9421697 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:22:09 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF746C1D for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri,  2 Aug 2002 11:22:09 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (scribble@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by
          shell-3.enteract.com (8.12.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g72GM9co055729 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:22:09 -0500 (CDT)
          (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com
          (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g72GM9TH055728 for
          WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:22:09 -0500 (CDT)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020802002044.A65747@pobox.com>
            <Pine.GSO.4.31.0208021014340.16088-100000@og1.olagrande.net>
            <20020802110726.B37195@pobox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020802112209.D37195@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:22:09 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Namibia2004
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802110726.B37195@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on
              Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 11:07:26AM -0500

On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 11:07:26AM -0500, Tushar Samant wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 10:15:42AM -0500, Ann Borkin wrote:
> > On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Tushar Samant wrote:
> >
> > > The real question is: how can one go about "seeing" a place, area or
> > > culture without being exactly like these lamerz?
> > >
> > > The only way I can think of is to go with a highly specific purpose,
> > > like the traveller Hsuan Tsang ...
> >
> > You could also go with no purpose except to be there for quite a long
> > while.
>
> Maybe

Actually, upon profound consideration, I agree with this alternative
scheme. Thank you Dr Borkin for providing guidance in life. Manufacturing
a purpose could really suck. May I have a hug?

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 05:03:39 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16861
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 05:03:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00003844@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:33:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14311407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 12:33:08 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72GN8422012 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:23:08 -0400
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE2C7A09 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri,  2 Aug 2002 11:23:07 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (scribble@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by
          shell-3.enteract.com (8.12.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g72GN7co055786 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:23:07 -0500 (CDT)
          (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com
          (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g72GN7vP055785 for
          WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:23:07 -0500 (CDT)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020802083941.02560980@mail.istori.com>
            <20020802160659.A59F97E8E@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020802112307.E37195@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:23:07 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802160659.A59F97E8E@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 09:06:59AM -0700

On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 09:06:59AM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> I'd also recommend rahul.net--that's where I've been for several
> years. Fernando laughs at me because I'm still on Pacific time, but
> hey. If it ain't broke, why break it? I feel that his rates are

Fix. If it aint broke why FIX it. Jeeze!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 05:08:16 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16865
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 05:08:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00190DE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:37:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14312227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 12:37:45 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72Gbj423926 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:37:45 -0400
Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27
          201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id
          <20020802163739.UHWU19356.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:37:39 +0000
X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020802083941.02560980@mail.istori.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020802093025.023c6cd0@mail.istori.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:32:52 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Peter Kaminski <kaminski@ISTORI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802160659.A59F97E8E@yellow.rahul.net>

Karen Kay writes,

>I'd also recommend rahul.net--that's where I've been for several years.

Rahul and TDL are both long-timers; Rahul since ~1992, TDL since ~1994.

Pete

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 05:08:50 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16872
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 05:08:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00190DF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:38:18 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14312250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 12:38:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72GcI423986 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:38:18 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C9774818B; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 09:38:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020802163817.C9774818B@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:38:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802112307.E37195@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Aug 2,
              2002 11:23: 7 am"

Tushar Samant said:
> On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 09:06:59AM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> > I'd also recommend rahul.net--that's where I've been for several
> > years. Fernando laughs at me because I'm still on Pacific time, but
> > hey. If it ain't broke, why break it? I feel that his rates are
>
> Fix. If it aint broke why FIX it. Jeeze!

Look, Poet. The word choice was deliberate. Okay?

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 05:10:57 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16887
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 05:10:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00003866@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:40:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14312415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 12:40:11 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72GeA424481 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:40:10 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g72GlCf08373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:47:12
          +0200
References: <20020802112307.E37195@pobox.com>
            <20020802163817.C9774818B@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020802184712.A8347@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:47:12 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802163817.C9774818B@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 09:38:17AM -0700

= > > hey. If it ain't broke, why break it? I feel that his rates are
= >
= > Fix. If it aint broke why FIX it. Jeeze!
=
= Look, Poet. The word choice was deliberate. Okay?
=

no. one of the rules in breaking a saying is that you have to
break it in a way that looks like you broke it on purpose, not
like you just haven't a clue.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 05:11:49 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16891
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 05:11:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000386A@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:41:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14312481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 12:41:18 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72GfH424638 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:41:17 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 159EE8109; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 09:41:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020802164116.159EE8109@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:41:16 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020802093025.023c6cd0@mail.istori.com> from Peter
              Kaminski at "Aug 2, 2002  9:32:52 am"

Peter Kaminski said:
> Karen Kay writes,
> >I'd also recommend rahul.net--that's where I've been for several years.
>
> Rahul and TDL are both long-timers; Rahul since ~1992, TDL since ~1994.

Netcom was my first ISP (hi, Pete:) ) and Rahul was my second, and
hopefully last.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 05:14:31 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16895
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 05:14:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00003878@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:43:59 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14312624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 12:43:59 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72Ghw425098 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:43:59 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 00F6E83B9; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 09:43:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020802164357.00F6E83B9@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:43:57 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802184712.A8347@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Aug 2,
              2002  6:47:12 pm"

steph said:
> = > > hey. If it ain't broke, why break it? I feel that his rates are
> = >
> = > Fix. If it aint broke why FIX it. Jeeze!
> =
> = Look, Poet. The word choice was deliberate. Okay?
> =
>
> no. one of the rules in breaking a saying is that you have to
> break it in a way that looks like you broke it on purpose, not
> like you just haven't a clue.

What do you know? You're in danger of losing your native speaker
status!

(I think of you when I hear Fernando speaking his native language.
He's a totally different person, as far as I can tell, not being a
native speaker of his native language.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 05:35:43 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16965
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 05:35:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000038E2@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:05:12 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14313894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 13:05:12 -0400
Received: from idiom.com (sharon@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72H5B428072 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:05:12 -0400
Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with
          ESMTP id KAA54032 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          10:05:10 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0208021002360.25997-100000@idiom.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:05:10 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sharon Ziperovich <sharon@IDIOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0208021030490.16970-100000@og1.olagrande.net>

I'm very happy with idiom.com.  They are one of the few that will include
a shell account with the PPP.  Service has been efficient and I once met
the owner at a party and liked him.

  Sharon

On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Ann Borkin wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, it was written:
> > Dear Ola Grande Users,
> > Ola Grande Networks, Inc. has been in business for close
> > to two years.  That time has been interesting, but unfortunately
> > unprofitable.  I can no longer sustain the financial losses.
> >
> > I regret to inform you that Ola Grande will end operations on
> > August 31, 2002. In an attempt to avoid an interruption in your
> > email service, I have been negotiating with other ISPs to adopt
> > the olagrande.net domain.
> >
> > I have been working for the past few months to find a suitable
> > match.  I am are very close to finalizing arrangements with a
> > comparable ISP.
>
> What do you think, wordspeople?  My first take is that "a comparable ISP"
> is likely to fold too.
>
> I don't want attbi.  And I want to keep on using Pine, telnetting in from
> home or work.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Ann
>
>
>
>
>
>   This would mean that current olagrande.net users
> > will be able to transfer their existing accounts if they wish to
> > do so.  You will still be able to receive email addressed to
> > your @olagrande.net address.  I hope to be able to announce
> > the details soon.
> >
> > If anyone has any suggestions or feedback, the newsgroup
> > olagrande.general would be an ideal place for that type
> > of discussion.
> >
> > I'm working to make the transition process as easy and painless
> > as possible.  The new ISP offers the same or similar services at
> > similar prices.  If you have a credit balance with Ola Grande, there
> > will be multiple options available (including a refund of the unused
> > portion if you wish).
> >
> > Once the agreement is finalized, I will transfer the olagrande.net
> > domain to the new ISP.  Your email will then be forwarded via
> > the new ISP at that time.  Details are forthcoming.
> >
> > Please monitor the newsgroup olagrande.general to keep up to date.
> >
> > I have enjoyed providing you with Internet Service for the last
> > two years, and regret to see this relationship come to an end.
> >
> > Best of luck to all of you.
> >
> >
> >
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 05:49:38 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16990
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 05:49:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019117A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:19:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14314913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 13:19:06 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g72HJ5430503 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          13:19:05 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-23.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.23]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g72HJ54346468 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          13:19:05 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEHKFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:18:17 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My new favorite movie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802073410.001867E24@yellow.rahul.net>

Yes, I NetFlixed it a month or so ago. I'd never seen it and I'd waited for
the DVD so I could see it as recommended by others...in german with english
subtitles. I thought they did a great job of conveying a claustraphobic
environment. I found it very compelling and watchable.

Sandra

>
> Das Boot, the director's cut. Nearly 4 hours of movie, but it was
> really good. Fernando brought it over tonight and we watched the whole
> thing in one sitting. (Well, I watched, he slept.) But it was still
> really, really good. Very intense, and very sad.
>
> Karen
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 06:29:25 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17051
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 06:29:24 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00003A24@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:58:52 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14318124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 13:58:52 -0400
Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72Hwq404937 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:58:52 -0400
Received: from rwcrwbc69 ([204.127.198.52]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020802175846.YIGJ19356.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:58:46 +0000
Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc69; Fri, 02 Aug 2002 17:58:44 +0000
X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002)
Message-ID:  <20020802175846.YIGJ19356.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:58:44 +0000
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Lisa Alfieri <alfieri@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: yeast
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

So what did you make and what language was the recipe in?

lisa
> clyde w. voigtlander said:
> > I wonder what the difference (other than moistness) is.  I'd guess that
> > bread-machine yeast is a super-fast rising variety.
>
> You are Very Smart.:) Yes, bread machine yeast is super-fast rising.
> The chief problem with it, though, was that the recipe didn't call for
> anything to feed the yeast. I ended up making a separate batch of
> yeast and fed it with some sugar et voila, it grew all over the
> place. He tells me that cake yeast works really well without feeding.
> Btw, I characterized him as very upset, but really, all he did was
> frown and whine a little; he's very even-tempered and never blames.
>
> This was a spontaneous cooking adventure--we decided to make this very
> complicated recipe on the spur of the moment, because I had most of
> the ingredients. The recipe was in a language I know very little of,
> so it was tough going for me. But we were definitely pleased with the
> results--we had firsts and seconds, all within about 15 minutes.
>
> > In Tuscany, Giancarlo
> > used a cake yeast that he called "beer yeast."  The cakes were larger than
> > those sold here.  When I returned home, I tried using cake yeast instead of
> > the dry (instant) yeast---correcting for the amount in the recipe.  I
> > couldn't discern a difference in either the rate or magnitude of rising or
> > in the texture or taste of the final product.
>
> I think the difference was just in what it needed to rise.
>
> Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 06:33:56 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17064
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 06:33:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00003A3C@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:03:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14317732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 14:03:23 -0400
Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72HrN404138 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:53:23 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06892761E for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri,  2 Aug 2002 12:53:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (scribble@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by
          shell-1.enteract.com (8.12.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g72HrM3I046357 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:53:22 -0500 (CDT)
          (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com
          (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g72HrMIb046356 for
          WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:53:22 -0500 (CDT)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020802112307.E37195@pobox.com>
            <20020802163817.C9774818B@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020802125322.A37046@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:53:22 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802163817.C9774818B@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 09:38:17AM -0700

On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 09:38:17AM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> Tushar Samant said:
> > On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 09:06:59AM -0700, Karen Kay wrote:
> > > I'd also recommend rahul.net--that's where I've been for several
> > > years. Fernando laughs at me because I'm still on Pacific time, but
> > > hey. If it ain't broke, why break it? I feel that his rates are
> >
> > Fix. If it aint broke why FIX it. Jeeze!
>
> Look, Poet. The word choice was deliberate. Okay?

I see you have mastered the Poet Save. Very nice, very nice ...

As you know I was at a boomerScum poetry workshop a while ago, and
some boomerScum had written a crap poem. Now not knowing the etiquette
I said--politely--that it sucked due to such and such. Will you believe
that this guy hastily intervened and called it a nervy ironic take or
something! Nervy. Like a member of the aristocracy makes a "nervy"
solecism, when in fact he is just a moron ... Mark the villainy a
harmless ass-kisser ends up committing. By the way the poet lady
didn't care one way or the other. They should have said up-front
it was a boomerScum social event.

So another symptom of boomerism would be all the behavior patterns
of some kind of aristocracy, but without any class.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 06:44:59 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17076
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 06:44:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00003A77@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:14:25 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14319151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 14:14:26 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g72IEP407266 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          14:14:25 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-23.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.23]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g72IEP4201302 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          14:14:25 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEHMFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:13:37 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802125322.A37046@pobox.com>

> I see you have mastered the Poet Save. Very nice, very nice ...
>
> As you know I was at a boomerScum poetry workshop a while ago, and
> some boomerScum had written a crap poem. Now not knowing the etiquette
> I said--politely--that it sucked due to such and such. Will you believe
> that this guy hastily intervened and called it a nervy ironic take or
> something! Nervy. Like a member of the aristocracy makes a "nervy"
> solecism, when in fact he is just a moron ... Mark the villainy a
> harmless ass-kisser ends up committing. By the way the poet lady
> didn't care one way or the other. They should have said up-front
> it was a boomerScum social event.
>
> So another symptom of boomerism would be all the behavior patterns
> of some kind of aristocracy, but without any class. (Tushar)

Your post reminds me of the Michael Caine character in Woody Allen's HANNAH
AND HER SISTERS.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 06:52:47 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17106
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 06:52:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00003AA0@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:22:13 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14319787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 14:22:13 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72IMD408745 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:22:13 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 27E098113; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 11:22:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020802182212.27E098113@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:22:12 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: yeast
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802175846.YIGJ19356.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69> from
              Lisa Alfieri at "Aug 2, 2002  5:58:44 pm"

Lisa Alfieri said:
> So what did you make and what language was the recipe in?

An onion pie, made with yellow onions. (We had a long discussion about
colors of onions and their uses.)

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 06:56:14 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17113
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 06:56:14 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00003AAF@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:25:40 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14319957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 14:25:40 -0400
Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100])
          by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72IPe409103 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:25:40 -0400
Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
          g72IWhr08576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:32:43
          +0200
References: <20020802184712.A8347@yoccoz.multinix.com>
            <20020802164357.00F6E83B9@yellow.rahul.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020802203243.A8514@yoccoz.multinix.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:32:43 +0200
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802164357.00F6E83B9@yellow.rahul.net>; from
              karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 09:43:57AM -0700

= >
= > no. one of the rules in breaking a saying is that you have to
= > break it in a way that looks like you broke it on purpose, not
= > like you just haven't a clue.
=
= What do you know? You're in danger of losing your native speaker
= status!
=

Not hardly.

= (I think of you when I hear Fernando speaking his native language.
= He's a totally different person, as far as I can tell, not being a
= native speaker of his native language.)
=
= Karen

This I can believe.  I've reached a point, however, where with
extreme language mix, I'm getting extreme personality mix.  I'm
becoming one with myself or something.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 06:59:42 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17121
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 06:59:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00003AC1@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:29:08 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14319567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 14:29:09 -0400
Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72IJ9408236 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:19:09 -0400
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by
          smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F7B6723 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri,  2 Aug 2002 13:19:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (scribble@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by
          shell-1.enteract.com (8.12.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g72IJ83I056036 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:19:08 -0500 (CDT)
          (envelope-from scribble@pobox.com)
Received: (from scribble@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com
          (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g72IJ8Aw056035 for
          WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:19:08 -0500 (CDT)
X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: scribble set sender to
                         scribble@pobox.com using -f
References: <20020802125322.A37046@pobox.com>
            <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEHMFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
Message-ID:  <20020802131908.A55163@pobox.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:19:08 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEHMFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>; from
              Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM on Fri, Aug 02,
              2002 at 11:13:37AM -0700

On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 11:13:37AM -0700, S Hess wrote:
> > I see you have mastered the Poet Save. Very nice, very nice ...
> >
> > As you know I was at a boomerScum poetry workshop a while ago, and
> > some boomerScum had written a crap poem. Now not knowing the etiquette
> > I said--politely--that it sucked due to such and such. Will you believe
> > that this guy hastily intervened and called it a nervy ironic take or
> > something! Nervy. Like a member of the aristocracy makes a "nervy"
> > solecism, when in fact he is just a moron ... Mark the villainy a
> > harmless ass-kisser ends up committing. By the way the poet lady
> > didn't care one way or the other. They should have said up-front
> > it was a boomerScum social event.
> >
> > So another symptom of boomerism would be all the behavior patterns
> > of some kind of aristocracy, but without any class. (Tushar)
>
> Your post reminds me of the Michael Caine character in Woody Allen's
> HANNAH AND HER SISTERS.

That doesn't make me bad.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 07:11:46 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17145
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 07:11:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00003B10@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:41:10 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14321106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 14:41:10 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72IfA411624 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:41:10 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 046187DDC; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 11:41:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020802184108.046187DDC@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:41:08 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: My new favorite movie
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEHKFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Aug 2, 2002 10:18:17 am"

S Hess said:
> Yes, I NetFlixed it a month or so ago. I'd never seen it and I'd waited for
> the DVD so I could see it as recommended by others...in german with english
> subtitles. I thought they did a great job of conveying a claustraphobic
> environment. I found it very compelling and watchable.

I remember seeing the movie when it first came out, and I liked it,
but this was even better. Maybe because I know a bit more than I did
before, so I felt more informed. (And Fernando gave an informative
running commentary when he was awake.)

"Compelling" is definitely the right word.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 07:12:43 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17152
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 07:12:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00003B12@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:42:09 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14321143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 14:42:09 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g72Ig9411785 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          14:42:09 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-23.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.23]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g72Ig84180044 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          14:42:08 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAAEHOFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:41:21 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802131908.A55163@pobox.com>

> On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 11:13:37AM -0700, S Hess wrote:
> > > I see you have mastered the Poet Save. Very nice, very nice ...
> > >
> > > As you know I was at a boomerScum poetry workshop a while ago, and
> > > some boomerScum had written a crap poem. Now not knowing the etiquette
> > > I said--politely--that it sucked due to such and such. Will
> you believe
> > > that this guy hastily intervened and called it a nervy ironic take or
> > > something! Nervy. Like a member of the aristocracy makes a "nervy"
> > > solecism, when in fact he is just a moron ... Mark the villainy a
> > > harmless ass-kisser ends up committing. By the way the poet lady
> > > didn't care one way or the other. They should have said up-front
> > > it was a boomerScum social event.
> > >
> > > So another symptom of boomerism would be all the behavior patterns
> > > of some kind of aristocracy, but without any class. (Tushar)
> >
> > Your post reminds me of the Michael Caine character in Woody Allen's
> > HANNAH AND HER SISTERS.
>
> That doesn't make me bad. (T)

Correct.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 07:17:21 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17164
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 07:17:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00003B20@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:46:44 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14321330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 14:46:44 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72Ikh412375 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:46:44 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 36F3E7E2A; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 11:46:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020802184643.36F3E7E2A@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:46:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Important Ola Grande Networks Announcement
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020802203243.A8514@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Aug 2,
              2002  8:32:43 pm"

steph said:
> = (I think of you when I hear Fernando speaking his native language.
> = He's a totally different person, as far as I can tell, not being a
> = native speaker of his native language.)
> =
> = Karen
>
> This I can believe.  I've reached a point, however, where with
> extreme language mix, I'm getting extreme personality mix.  I'm
> becoming one with myself or something.

Yes! I thought that when I became senile, I should move to Hawaii so
someone can understand me at least part of the time.

I like that integrated ego feeling.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 09:54:31 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17364
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 09:54:30 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00003F6C@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:23:48 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14334094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 17:23:49 -0400
Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72LNmR05673 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:23:48 -0400
Received: from sdn-ap-006neomahp0237.dialsprint.net ([63.186.48.237]
          helo=pop.mindspring.com) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim
          3.33 #1) id 17ajti-0008Vd-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 02
          Aug 2002 17:23:46 -0400
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4AF860.CED40EBF@pop.mindspring.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:23:56 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Sylvia Edwards <s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM>
Organization: S.words
Subject:      Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

I was diagnosed with shingles today.  I'm miserable.  The rash goes from
my spine to my breast bone on my left side.  I swear a boa constrictor
has encircled my chest.  Breathing is a bitch.  OH, yeah, I also have a
lung infection.   This sucks.

Please join me at my whine and Jeez party being held as I type.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 10:18:12 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17416
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 10:18:11 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00003FBC@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:47:33 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14335075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 17:47:33 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72LlXR08270 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:47:33 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-132.panax.com
          [63.163.41.132]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g72LlZn05515 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:47:35
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020802174517.00a04560@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:47:20 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4AF860.CED40EBF@pop.mindspring.com>

>I was diagnosed with shingles today.  I'm miserable.

You have my sincere sympathy, Sylvia.  Did they give you anything for it at
all?  I don't think there is much they can do.  Sometimes it lasts a long
time.  Yuck.  I'm sure the hot weather makes it that much worse.  I had
shingles a long time.  The doctor did a lung xray.  I guess the two are
related.  Or maybe your immunity was down for some other reason and that's
what gave you both.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 10:54:24 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17470
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 10:54:23 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000405C@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:23:43 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14336834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 18:23:44 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g72MNhR11790 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          18:23:43 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-23.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.23]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g72MNh4374172 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          18:23:43 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEICFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:22:54 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4AF860.CED40EBF@pop.mindspring.com>

>Sylvia Edwards
> I was diagnosed with shingles today.  I'm miserable.  The rash goes from
> my spine to my breast bone on my left side.  I swear a boa constrictor
> has encircled my chest.  Breathing is a bitch.  OH, yeah, I also have a
> lung infection.   This sucks.
>
> Please join me at my whine and Jeez party being held as I type.


How does one get shingles?

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 10:59:27 1960
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17512
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 10:59:26 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00192D59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:28:46 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14337070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 18:28:46 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72MSkR12394 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:28:46 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AD29A7F6D; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 15:28:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020802222845.AD29A7F6D@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:28:45 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEICFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com> from S
              Hess at "Aug 2, 2002  3:22:54 pm"

S Hess said:
> >Sylvia Edwards
> > I was diagnosed with shingles today.  I'm miserable.  The rash goes from
> > my spine to my breast bone on my left side.  I swear a boa constrictor
> > has encircled my chest.  Breathing is a bitch.  OH, yeah, I also have a
> > lung infection.   This sucks.
> >
> > Please join me at my whine and Jeez party being held as I type.
>
>
> How does one get shingles?

One gets chicken pox many years earlier.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:01:46 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17526
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 11:01:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25256
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:32:20 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00004078@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:29:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14336726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 18:29:17 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72MJHR11434 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:19:17 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72MJGjA026960 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:19:16 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0208021818390.10714-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:19:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <3D4AF860.CED40EBF@pop.mindspring.com>

On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Sylvia Edwards wrote:

>I was diagnosed with shingles today.  I'm miserable.  The rash goes from
... >Please join me at my whine and Jeez party being held as I type.

I am here!

Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:03:31 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17530
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 11:03:31 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00004084@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:32:51 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14337320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 18:32:52 -0400
Received: from socrates.Berkeley.EDU (socrates.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.13]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72MWpR13007 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:32:51 -0400
Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35])
          by socrates.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g72MWp811686
          for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:32:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3D4AF860.CED40EBF@pop.mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <3D4B0AA7.E6B84969@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:41:43 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Sylvia Edwards wrote:
>
> I was diagnosed with shingles today.  I'm miserable.  The rash goes from
> my spine to my breast bone on my left side.  I swear a boa constrictor
> has encircled my chest.  Breathing is a bitch.  OH, yeah, I also have a
> lung infection.   This sucks.
>
> Please join me at my whine and Jeez party being held as I type.

That's the pits, Sly.  So sorry.

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:04:47 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17534
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 11:04:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25311
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:35:18 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00004082@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:32:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14337308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 18:32:16 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72MWGR12972 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:32:16 -0400
Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu
          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H08MJ500.PVD for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:30:41 -0700
X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Language: en
X-Accept-Language: en
X-Priority: 1 (Highest)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <54284e54547a.54547a54284e@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:30:41 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: John Williams <williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> I was diagnosed with shingles today.  I'm miserable.

Oh, CRAP, Silvia!

> Please join me at my whine and Jeez party being held as I type.

I am.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:04:49 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17539
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 11:04:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25286
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:34:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00004080@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:31:45 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14336794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 18:31:45 -0400
Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72MLjR11642 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:21:45 -0400
Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by
          cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72MLijA027520;
          Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:21:44 -0400
X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0208021820420.10714-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:21:44 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Fun (fwd)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>From _The Onion_ (I am told):

William Safire Orders Two Whoppers Junior

NEW YORK - Stopping for lunch at a Manhattan Burger King, _New York
Times_ 'On Language' columnist William Safire ordered two "Whoppers
Junior" Thursday. "Most Burger King patrons operate under the fallacious
assumption that the plural is 'Whopper Juniors,'" Safire told a woman
standing in line behind him. "This, of course, is a grievous grammatical
blunder, akin to saying 'passerbys' or, worse yet, the dreaded 'attorney
generals.'" Last week, Safire patronized a midtown Taco Bell, ordering
"two Big Beef Burritos Supreme."


Bethany

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 12:00:59 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17630
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 12:00:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00004142@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:30:17 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14339539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 19:30:17 -0400
Received: from biff.kiva.net (biff.kiva.net [216.9.137.5]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g72NUHR18713 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:30:17 -0400
Received: (qmail 16556 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 23:30:16 -0000
Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by biff.kiva.net with SMTP; 2
          Aug 2002 23:30:16 -0000
Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id ACF4734F11; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 18:30:16 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix)
          with ESMTP id AC1A02D643 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri,  2 Aug
          2002 18:30:16 -0500 (EST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0208021829370.30951-100000@mayhem.kiva.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:30:16 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Tom Lee <flint@KIVA.NET>
Subject:      Re: Fun (fwd)
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0208021820420.10714-100000@larry.cas.utk.edu>

        This is indeed from _The Onion_.  I remember seeing it there.

--
Take care,
Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net)
Regular reader

On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> >From _The Onion_ (I am told):
>
> William Safire Orders Two Whoppers Junior

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 12:52:47 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17679
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 12:52:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25991
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:21:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000041B4@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:18:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14341196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 20:18:51 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe58.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.193]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g730IoR24485 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:18:50 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          2 Aug 2002 17:18:45 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Aug 2002 00:18:45.0417 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[54980190:01C23A83]
Message-ID:  <OE58uzHNjdND2nTe1CI000020e6@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:17:31 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

>I was diagnosed with shingles today.  I'm miserable.

>Oh, CRAP, Silvia!

YIKES! I'm sorry!

> Please join me at my whine and Jeez party being held as I type.

>I am.

Me too! I'm pouring a Merlot from Languedoc.

I'm having lower back <issues>.

To the day spa!

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 12:52:48 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17686
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 12:52:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25947
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:12:27 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00004198@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:09:23 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14340862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 20:09:23 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g7309NR23398 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          20:09:23 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-23.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.23]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g7309N4405126 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          20:09:23 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAIEIFFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:08:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020802200158.00a02ca0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

My, well, I'm so very sorry to hear this thing has foisted itself on Sylvia.

Sandra

> >How does one get shingles?
> >Sandra
>
> As Karen pointed out, the same virus that causes chicken pox, causes
> shingles.  The virus lives in your body forever.  For some reason, in some
> people, the virus gets active again and causes shingles which is a rash
> that follows the nerves of the body.  One gets shingles on just
> one half of
> the body.  But it can even be on the face and cause eye damage.  It's a
> very nasty thing.  And you can get it more than once.  And it's very, very
> painful.  The pain can continue for months even when the rash finally goes
> away in a number of weeks.
>
>
>     --bonniev
>

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 12:52:50 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17696
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 12:52:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25901
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:07:54 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000418B@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:04:49 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14340665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 20:04:49 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7304lR22804 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:04:47 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-16.panax.com [63.163.41.16])
          by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7304jn28814 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:04:46 -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <3D4AF860.CED40EBF@pop.mindspring.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020802200158.00a02ca0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:04:27 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAGEICFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

>How does one get shingles?
>Sandra

As Karen pointed out, the same virus that causes chicken pox, causes
shingles.  The virus lives in your body forever.  For some reason, in some
people, the virus gets active again and causes shingles which is a rash
that follows the nerves of the body.  One gets shingles on just one half of
the body.  But it can even be on the face and cause eye damage.  It's a
very nasty thing.  And you can get it more than once.  And it's very, very
painful.  The pain can continue for months even when the rash finally goes
away in a number of weeks.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 12:55:46 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17701
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 12:55:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA26041
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:25:42 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00193315@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:22:37 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14341287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 20:22:35 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g730MYR24824 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:22:34 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E9CAE7EAD; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 17:22:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020803002233.E9CAE7EAD@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:22:33 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020802200158.00a02ca0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Aug 2, 2002  8: 4:27 pm"

bonniev said:
> For some reason, in some
> people, the virus gets active again and causes shingles which is a rash
> that follows the nerves of the body.

I've read that everyone that lives to be 80 (and has had shingles)
gets it.

> The pain can continue for months even when the rash finally goes
> away in a number of weeks.

My adviser was in a bad mood for months when he had it.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 13:00:17 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17722
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 13:00:16 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000041CA@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:29:34 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14341461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 20:29:34 -0400
Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g730TXR25380 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:29:33 -0400
Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-175.panax.com
          [63.163.41.175]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
          g730TWn32609 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:29:32
          -0400
X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020802200158.00a02ca0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020802202814.00a04780@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:29:16 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: bonniev <bonniev@PANAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020803002233.E9CAE7EAD@yellow.rahul.net>

>I've read that everyone that lives to be 80 (and has had shingles)
>gets it.      --Karen

You mean "and has had chicken pox".  I've heard that the older you are when
you get it, the worse it is.  I was only around 40 when I got it.


    --bonniev

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 13:18:46 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17739
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 13:18:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA26154
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:34:55 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000041CF@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:31:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14341517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 20:31:50 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g730VoR25634 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:31:50 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C183C7DEB; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 17:31:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020803003149.C183C7DEB@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:31:49 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020802202814.00a04780@pop3.norton.antivirus> from
              bonniev at "Aug 2, 2002  8:29:16 pm"

bonniev said:
> >I've read that everyone that lives to be 80 (and has had shingles)
> >gets it.      --Karen
>
> You mean "and has had chicken pox".

Yes, that was a brain-o.

> I've heard that the older you are when
> you get it, the worse it is.  I was only around 40 when I got it.

I think it varies by many things, not least of all where it appears.

Gee, that's just what Fernando needs next, after the poison oak and
poison ivy.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 13:50:14 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17779
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 13:50:13 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000422B@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:19:30 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14342677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 21:19:30 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g731JUR29562 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:19:30 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g731JTsv022893 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:19:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020802202814.00a04780@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020802181929.00ab5690@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:19:55 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020803003149.C183C7DEB@yellow.rahul.net>

At 05:31 PM 8/2/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>bonniev said:
> > >I've read that everyone that lives to be 80 (and has had shingles)
> > >gets it.      --Karen
> >
> > You mean "and has had chicken pox".
>
>Yes, that was a brain-o.
>
> > I've heard that the older you are when
> > you get it, the worse it is.  I was only around 40 when I got it.
>
>I think it varies by many things, not least of all where it appears.
>
>Gee, that's just what Fernando needs next, after the poison oak and
>poison ivy.

Somehow I just knew we were going to hear about Oleander.

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 13:57:44 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17786
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 13:57:43 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0000423E@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:27:00 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14342937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 21:27:00 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g731R0R30330 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          21:27:00 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-23.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.23]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g731Qx4255392 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          21:26:59 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEIHFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:26:09 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020802181929.00ab5690@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> At 05:31 PM 8/2/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >bonniev said:
> > > >I've read that everyone that lives to be 80 (and has had shingles)
> > > >gets it.      --Karen
> > >
> > > You mean "and has had chicken pox".
> >
> >Yes, that was a brain-o.
> >
> > > I've heard that the older you are when
> > > you get it, the worse it is.  I was only around 40 when I got it.
> >
> >I think it varies by many things, not least of all where it appears.
> >
> >Gee, that's just what Fernando needs next, after the poison oak and
> >poison ivy.
>
> Somehow I just knew we were going to hear about Oleander.

LOL. C'mon...give her a break. She's smitten. It's all good.

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 14:07:46 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17803
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 14:07:46 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0000424B@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:37:02 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14343119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 21:37:02 -0400
Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g731b2R31071 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:37:02 -0400
Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by
          uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g731b1sv013079 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:37:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2
References: <4.2.2.20020802181929.00ab5690@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20020802183635.00ab1110@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:37:27 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINACEIHFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>

At 06:26 PM 8/2/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > At 05:31 PM 8/2/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >bonniev said:
> > > > >I've read that everyone that lives to be 80 (and has had shingles)
> > > > >gets it.      --Karen
> > > >
> > > > You mean "and has had chicken pox".
> > >
> > >Yes, that was a brain-o.
> > >
> > > > I've heard that the older you are when
> > > > you get it, the worse it is.  I was only around 40 when I got it.
> > >
> > >I think it varies by many things, not least of all where it appears.
> > >
> > >Gee, that's just what Fernando needs next, after the poison oak and
> > >poison ivy.
> >
> > Somehow I just knew we were going to hear about Oleander.
>
>LOL. C'mon...give her a break. She's smitten. It's all good.

Well, I'm happy for her but this is getting worse than listening to someone
talk about their new baby. I'm waiting to hear the color of his stool next.

Anyone heard from Janet?

Betty

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 14:19:46 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17827
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 14:19:45 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26846
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:44:22 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00004253@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:41:16 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14343207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 21:41:16 -0400
Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net
          [207.115.63.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP
          id g731fGR31358 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          21:41:16 -0400
Received: from oemcomputer (adsl-63-202-83-23.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
          [63.202.83.23]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP
          id g731fF462316 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          21:41:15 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <GGENJLDMPBJJNPIHEINAKEIHFGAA.Sandra@MaximumSentence.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:40:25 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: S Hess <Sandra@MAXIMUMSENTENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020802183635.00ab1110@uclink.berkeley.edu>

> > > Somehow I just knew we were going to hear about Oleander.
> >
> >LOL. C'mon...give her a break. She's smitten. It's all good.
>
> Well, I'm happy for her but this is getting worse than listening
> to someone
> talk about their new baby. I'm waiting to hear the color of his
> stool next.
>
> Anyone heard from Janet?
>
> Betty

Nice giggle producer :)

Sandra

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 14:36:37 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17847
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 14:36:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000425C@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:43:20 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14343341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 21:43:20 -0400
Received: from yellow.rahul.net (postfix@yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g731hKR31750 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:43:20 -0400
Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D3D0B7E0C; Fri,  2
          Aug 2002 18:43:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-no-archive:  yes
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  <20020803014319.D3D0B7E0C@yellow.rahul.net>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:43:19 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <4.2.2.20020802183635.00ab1110@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at
              "Aug 2, 2002  6:37:27 pm"

Betty said:
> Well, I'm happy for her but this is getting worse than listening to someone
> talk about their new baby. I'm waiting to hear the color of his stool next.

I told him not to tell me stuff like that--TMI.

> Anyone heard from Janet?

Nope.

Karen

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 14:36:38 1960
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17849
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 14:36:37 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000426B@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:54:29 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14343565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 21:54:29 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g731sTR32688 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:54:29 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020803015423.HJWQ23732.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 01:54:23 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGCEBCGCAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:57:28 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poverty
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020801151851.NYFH22139.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69>

> Eating in can add up as well. Fish, a staple of my
> healthy eating habits, gets expensive. So does buying WOW
> chips for snacks. They're nearly twice the cost of
> regular chips.
>
> lisa

This comment's probably already been made, but I'm behind, so: Don't forget
to factor in the cost of extra toilet paper as a result of those WOW chips!

Yikes, now the worst snack "food" would be made with olestra and maltitol.
Double yikes. "Stomach discomfort" my, uh, ass.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 14:46:49 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17902
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 14:46:48 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA27016
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:11:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00004294@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 22:08:50 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14343972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 22:08:50 -0400
Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com (imo-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.165]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7328mR01349 for
          <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 22:08:48 -0400
Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id
          c.119.152062f1 (3990) for <WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          22:08:42 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572
Message-ID:  <119.152062f1.2a7c952a@aol.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 22:08:42 EDT
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pity Party Invite
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

In a message dated 08/02/2002 4:24:01 PM Central Daylight Time,
s.words@POP.MINDSPRING.COM writes:

<<
I was diagnosed with shingles today.
>>

Sending you soft hugs and much sympathy.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@aol.com

I wish I had the construction business in Townsville!

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 14:46:50 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17907
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 14:46:49 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA27005
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:10:08 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000428F@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 22:07:01 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14343906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 22:07:01 -0400
Received: from hotmail.com (oe35.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.92]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g73271R01195 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 22:07:01 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri,
          2 Aug 2002 19:06:56 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66]
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Aug 2002 02:06:56.0192 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[7165AC00:01C23A92]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable
Message-ID:  <OE35DWWcuZcGwM0OOJr00006367@hotmail.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:08:46 -0500
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Amy Burns Short <amyb_short@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Wealth
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Hors d' oeuvres menu for friends:

Dolmas
Walnuts
Feta Cheese
Fresh Mozzarella
Fresh tomato slices topped with fresh (home-grown) basil
Marinated tortellini, two types: Italian sausage and cheese
Hummus
Sesame crackers
Paradise Melon
Procuitto
Gala apple slices
Fresh bread
Butter

Wine
Amaretto
Espresso
Water


A HUGE hit.

AS

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 14:46:51 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17910
	for <words-l@gtoal.com>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 14:46:50 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA26995
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:08:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0000427E@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 22:02:11 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14343739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 22:02:11 -0400
Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (root@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7322BR00855 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 22:02:11 -0400
Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA04712
          (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>); Fri, 2 Aug 2002
          19:02:10 -0700
Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by
          bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8883B97005 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri,  2 Aug 2002 19:02:09 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 4702 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2002 02:02:08 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?198.144.202.197?) (198.144.202.197) by
          bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 3 Aug 2002 02:02:08 -0000
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Ask-The-Fish: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein,
                     no bureaucracy would ever work
X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths
Message-ID:  <v03130302b970e308b268@[198.144.202.197]>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:02:01 -0700
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM>
Subject:      Callumosity
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Today's WSJ has another installment from our resident cruciverbalist.
Those of you who are litz-enabled can find it here:

http://mazerlm.home.att.net/wsj020802.puz

Ken Miller
Will Shortz School of Enigmatology

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 14:47:48 1960
Received: from taco.vt.com (root@taco.vt.com [204.117.188.230])
	by gtoal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17922
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Mon, 27 Jun 1960 14:47:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (mailgw3.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.81])
	by taco.vt.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA27072
	for <words-l@GTOAL.COM>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:19:12 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw3.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.000042A5@mailgw3.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 22:16:05 -0400
Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
          1.8d) with spool id 14344159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 2 Aug
          2002 22:16:05 -0400
Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by
          listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g732G5R02016 for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 22:16:05 -0400
Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail
          vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
          <20020803021600.LMKB221.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for
          <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 02:16:00 +0000
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Importance: Normal
Message-ID:  <BFEMJMJCLCODCNHLHBIGCEBDGCAA.adamh1@attbi.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Aug 2002 22:19:04 -0400
Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Adam Hartfield <adamh1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Namibia2004
To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F91Can7pg4ApyzIqnQg0001b153@hotmail.com>

> >If this isn't boomerism at it's worst I don't know what is.
>
> Easy. NPR is boomerism at its worst.
>
> -rashmi

Is that why I can't stand listening to it? I can't even manage to listen to
"Car Talk" anymore without flinching. Some of my coworkers go on and on
about Fresh Air or All Things Considered or Terry Gross or whatever, and
seem shocked when I reply that I never, ever listen to NPR.

--Adam
adamh1@attbi.com

